[0:05] All right, we will call the Olivet City Council meeting to order on September

[0:10] 8th, 2026. If we please have roll call. >> Mayor Lewis

[0:15] » here. >> Chairman Prom Shashan Helman

[0:18] » here. >> Council member Clark

[0:20] » here. >> Council member Solommanov

[0:22] » here. >> Council member Dragel

[0:23] » here. >> All right. Wonderful. We'll move on to

[0:26] item two, communications. Are there any communications to share? I do not have

[0:30] any written communications. >> Okay. But we do have an introduction, I

[0:32] believe. >> Uh, we do. So,

[0:37] this is Betty Pendleton. She is our new court administrator. She's been with us

[0:42] a month, a little over a month. So, she came to

[0:46] us from Normandy's court where she was managing six courts. So, um, she's

[0:52] enjoying just the one. Just the one. Um, so we would like to

[0:58] welcome her and her son Tristan. >> Yes,

[1:05] » that's mostly for you, Tristan. Sorry about

[1:09] excited to have you. Uh, welcome to all of it and the the staff. And so, um, as

[1:15] council, we're happy to have you here and hopefully it's, uh, quite enjoyable

[1:19] and, uh, less crazy than this. So, wonderful.

[1:26] Wonderful. Well, thank you for coming and thanks for the support. We

[1:29] appreciate you coming. So, >> welcome aboard.

[1:31] » Welcome aboard. Thank you very much. >> All righty. We will move on to item

[1:36] number three, city manager report, please.

[1:40] » Good evening. >> Good evening.

[1:59] All right, couple of things. Um, first and

[2:03] foremost, a couple uh updates on Olive Crossing.

[2:09] So, again, uh, lot three. As far as I know, um, the tenants are doing well and

[2:16] and now that the first rush of everybody going to visit, uh, the new tenants has

[2:22] has sort of subsided, it appears that a lot of the parking has also gotten uh,

[2:28] gotten better. So, uh, we encourage everybody to go visit all those tenants

[2:33] uh, in lot 3. They have just had one vacant tenant space left uh, that I'm

[2:38] aware of. And then they are continuing to do work uh on the fountain. So, as

[2:44] far as we know, they have gotten their permits through St. Louis County and

[2:47] they're continuing to to do that plumbing um through St. Louis County.

[2:53] Uh lot five, um the developer is going to be dividing lot 5 in half and the

[3:01] northern half of that is going to be Texas Roadhouse. Um the southern half is

[3:06] an as of yet unnamed uh tenant but before the planning and development uh

[3:14] commission is a preliminary plat uh to divide the two parcels as well as an

[3:21] update to the overall uh master plan for the site uh because the master plan did

[3:27] not envision lot 5 being divided. So, we just want to do some housekeeping and

[3:32] get it all uh cleaned up. And so, that will be in front of the PCDC on

[3:39] September 17th, the next the next uh PCDC meeting

[3:45] um in September. Mr. Dr. Tjo is going to kind of bring that forward as a

[3:50] educational item and um kind of talk through the PCDC as far as what the next

[3:56] steps will be for that um up minor update to the master plan as well as the

[4:02] preliminary plat. And then lot six uh is the hotel and we

[4:08] don't have any um updates for that. There are a few things that are going to

[4:15] be happening here in Alvette. So, this coming Friday, September 11th, um the

[4:20] Great Rivers Greenway is hosting a walking tour along the Centennial

[4:25] Greenway, um from 12 to 2:00 p.m. Uh it is free. They do ask individuals to

[4:32] register just so they kind of have an idea

[4:35] of who is coming. And so you can certainly scan the QR code to register,

[4:39] but you'll be walking uh with an expert look um talking about nature and the

[4:45] trail. Um and it's about 2 miles, so bring your walking shoes. Uh it is

[4:51] relatively flat, so there are no big hills or anything uh along the greenway.

[4:56] So we encourage everybody to join the Centennial Green join the Great Rivers

[5:00] Greenway on the Centennial Greenway. And then this is last call for all of

[5:06] Night Out. We would encourage any neighborhood uh that is looking to host

[5:12] a block party to sign up with uh Lieutenant Celzer and the police

[5:17] department for Olivet Night Out, which is Tuesday, September 15th, so a week

[5:21] from today. Um groups of both the elected officials, the fire department,

[5:27] and the police department will be making the rounds uh of the various

[5:31] neighborhood groups. So, we encourage everybody to sign up uh and come and

[5:35] join your neighbors.

[5:39] And then that following uh Friday, September 18th, is uh trivia night at uh

[5:46] Five Oaks. And as I checked uh earlier today, there are four tables left. So,

[5:50] grab your friends. Um get a table. It's 90s and 2000 sitcoms. So, um I think

[5:59] it'll be a fun time with fun questions.

[6:04] And then the Great Olive Cleanout is September 30th uh from 3:00 to 6:00 p.m.

[6:09] It is at Five Oaks on Warson just like it was last year. They'll have the

[6:14] dedicated route to come up the driveway and then through and then exit. Um and

[6:20] so you can bring your electronics, so almost anything with a cord. And then

[6:25] your um documents for shredding. This is for residential shredding. materials

[6:31] only. So, not for businesses that have a lot of files that need to be shredded,

[6:37] but if you are at home and you have materials to be shredded, uh please

[6:40] bring them out.

[6:44] And then we do have the results of the battle of the badges which was uh last

[6:48] week, last Thursday. So, we had 29 total donors including not only members of the

[6:55] police and the fire department, but members of staff uh as well as the mayor

[7:00] came out. There were um nine first-time donors and then five power red donors.

[7:06] So, they got an actual 34 units of blood out of those 29

[7:12] donors. And the fire department won by one vote. So, every vote counts

[7:20] and we appreciate everybody coming out and donating that very valuable u blood.

[7:27] And then just a reminder, it is also turkey trot season. Um you may register

[7:33] for the annual Thanksgiving morning run. We are starting at 8:00 this morning.

[7:40] The last couple of years we've we've had to be delayed a little bit, but um we

[7:45] got a lot of feedback that it's very important that we start at 8:00 and so

[7:50] we we are going to be doing that. But we encourage everybody to uh come out for

[7:55] Turkey Trot and all of the proceeds go to the Harvey Cornblum Jewish food

[8:01] pantry. Uh last year we gave more than $30,000 to the food pantry and so we are

[8:06] hoping that we can meet or exceed that um donation again this year.

[8:14] And then I just encourage everybody to sign up for the Alvette Weekly, which is

[8:18] our weekly e newswsletter with all kinds of um news and events going on in the

[8:22] city of Alvette. And then just a couple general updates.

[8:27] Uh first and foremost, we are very excited that Carlos is getting a new

[8:30] person on his team. Uh we are getting a new building inspector. They are in the

[8:35] pre-employment process now, so we expect that they'll be coming on um shortly.

[8:41] And then just a reminder to the council that we are having a work session at

[8:46] 6:30 on September 22nd. So right before your next council meeting. This is the

[8:51] continuation of those departments in depth. Uh and the next department up

[8:56] will be parks. And with that I can answer any questions

[9:01] and then here are the upcoming meeting dates.

[9:05] » Anyone on Thank you very much. Anyone on the council have questions for city man?

[9:10] Okay, appreciate it. Thank you very much. All right, we'll move on to item

[9:14] four, city council liaison reports, where the council members will give

[9:17] updates on kind of activities or meetings they've attended. Uh, council

[9:20] member Solomon, >> no update for me this evening. All

[9:23] right, Mayor Prom, >> I attended the PCDC meeting on September

[9:28] 3rd, and there were two text amendments that passed. One allowing for coin

[9:34] operated laundry. Um, and the other allowing for garage condos. Um, and both

[9:41] of those will be coming before the council probably in October, I think. So

[9:47] um and then the PCDC also was able to elect officers. Um so Sam Wallock is the

[9:55] uh chair and I'm not going to remember Petri is the

[10:01] » vice vice chair. >> Vice chair and

[10:04] » as fancy as mayor prom. >> Yeah. Now I'm blanking on secretary

[10:08] » secretary. My apologies. Laura Ragdale. Thank you. Thank you.

[10:14] Um, and then I also attended on September 4th an ADAPT STL conference

[10:21] put on by St. Louis University. And this was a dayong conference that brought in

[10:26] uh representatives from municipalities as well as representatives from um Amron

[10:32] and local nonprofits and organizations that work in the sustainability fields.

[10:38] And the idea was to work with Slooh's research team as they create uh modeling

[10:46] tools for both extreme heat and flooding events. And they wanted to make sure

[10:53] that as they were developing their modeling tools, they were developing

[10:57] tools that actively respond to the needs of municipalities,

[11:03] utilities, and nonprofits who work in this space. So, it was really great um

[11:08] to just have these conversations with other people who are considering

[11:13] these issues and to really be thinking forward about the science and the

[11:19] research that we need, especially as a municipality in order to make the

[11:23] decisions that we need to make for uh future flooding and heat events.

[11:30] » Great. All right, Migo. Um, I have nothing to

[11:35] report today. >> I have nothing to report as well.

[11:39] » The only thing uh I have to report is on last Friday the 4th, um, I got to attend

[11:44] the Ace Rick's Ace Hardware grand opening, which was very exciting. Um,

[11:49] I'm a little sad I didn't get to use the scissors because they used a chainsaw to

[11:52] cut a board as their opening, but uh, that was quite unique. Uh, but honestly,

[11:56] the customer service was quite incredible. Uh then they I think they

[12:00] had tons of people there and they were just really excited to have people there

[12:04] and uh the community was already showing up before 9:00 trying to get in um you

[12:08] know for the grand opening sales and specials and so I think it's going to be

[12:12] a great addition and uh had a lot of great vendors outside you know like Big

[12:16] Green Egg, Trigger um you know and tools and things like that and fire department

[12:20] was well there represented as well. So and a lot of staff so that was exciting

[12:24] good community welcome. though. All right. Uh we'll move on to item number

[12:29] five. Uh items from council members, things topics they want to bring up for

[12:32] future discussion, but not going into depth on um the council today. Any

[12:37] topics from anyone they want to bring up that aren't on the agenda or that we

[12:40] need to discuss for a future agenda.

[12:44] Okay. All right. We're going to move on to item number six, hearing from

[12:47] citizens. This is the portion of the agenda where anyone present in person or

[12:51] virtually may address the city council regarding any topic, including those

[12:54] later in the agenda. Each speaker is allowed up to three minutes to address

[12:58] the mayor and city council. Hearing from citizens is designed for council to

[13:01] receive feedback rather than for a direct dialogue, so we do not respond.

[13:05] Uh we will take speakers in person first, followed by any online. If you're

[13:08] in person, you can complete a speaker card and give it to the clerk. If you

[13:12] have already given your card to the clerk, we'll take you in order in which

[13:14] you submitted your card. If you're online and wish to speak, please use

[13:17] your raise your hand feature and you'll be added as a speaker. Uh for those

[13:21] speakers when you come forward, please make sure the mic is on that you state

[13:24] your name and address for the record prior to delivering your remarks. Uh and

[13:29] then there will be a second session of this later in the evening as well if you

[13:32] didn't get in this first one or you want to speak twice. So I'll open it up. Is

[13:35] there anyone who wants to come forward and speak?

[13:39] No. All right. Anyone online wish to speak?

[13:46] Okay. So, I believe uh council member clerk has uh they want to speak and

[13:51] address the council as well. So, we'll have them.

[14:00] [laughter]

[14:03] » If you didn't turn the mic on, I'm going to feel very sad.

[14:06] I was hoping that you asked me to. >> Uh Sydney Clark, 1118 Basswood Lane.

[14:13] » Steve Iola, 1505 Missouri. >> Um the reason why I'm up here today is

[14:19] um many of you may or may not know that I am a kidney transplant survivor. Uh

[14:25] about two and a half years ago, I underwent a kidney transplant and I'm

[14:30] one of the fortunate few to have a live donor. Um,

[14:36] the day that I went under surgery to have my kidney was my birthday.

[14:41] And I remember praying to God just before surgery. I said, "Father, if you

[14:45] just let me live, I'll do my best to serve my man, be a better man, and be a

[14:51] better person, and I'll do all that I can to be the man that you want me to

[14:55] be." And I remember the nurse tapping me on my shoulder saying, "Okay, I need you

[14:59] to move over to this other table." And I asked, "How long is the surgery going to

[15:03] take?" and she said it's surgery's already done.

[15:06] Um that in itself was my miracle. After that um I realized how important how

[15:14] very important life is and how precious it is. After surgery food tasted better,

[15:20] colors were brighter, sunsets were better, hugs from my friends were

[15:26] better. Everything was better. And I appreciated life so much better. And I

[15:32] decided I'm going to do that. And service to your mankind, your your

[15:38] constituents and the people in your world and your neighbors. Service to

[15:42] them is your payment for your space here on Earth. And so I'm doing my part by

[15:49] joining with this gentleman here with the National Kidney Foundation to help

[15:52] raise money. We're having a golf tournament that's coming up in November.

[15:56] Would you please tell us about them? So, it's actually our 45th year for the golf

[16:01] tournament. Um, it's one of our larger fundraisers. Uh, we generally get about

[16:07] 120 golfers uh at the event. Uh, we're doing some new things this year um with

[16:12] the golf tournament. We're honoring individuals at different holes and doing

[16:15] some more peer-to-peer fundraising opportunities because not everyone can

[16:19] do a force. Not everyone golfs. Uh, so we're looking at new opportunities in

[16:23] that. And that's one of the things that Sydney's kind of helping us with uh is

[16:27] spreading the word about some of these additional types of opportunities and

[16:30] everything. Um I'd also add to what Sydney was talking about too is um we

[16:35] are making a much larger push here locally in the St. Louis area to do more

[16:39] community outreach type programs, screening type of programs. Um that's

[16:43] been something that's been a little little bit lacking here at the at the

[16:47] local level. So we're doing some community outreach programs currently

[16:50] now in in North City. Um, but I know we've been talking about the possibility

[16:54] of moving on this side, uh, and doing some things in the county and

[16:58] everything, too. So, um, so stay tuned on on those things. Uh, we've got a

[17:03] couple of screening programs going next month, um, in the city. So, but, um,

[17:08] it's time to expand some of that stuff a little bit westward, too. So,

[17:12] » So, tell them how we want to raise some money on this golf tour.

[17:14] » Um, so we have some opportunities for, um, on the golf tournaments. Um we've

[17:19] got what become more of a peer-to-peer type program and stuff. So we're

[17:22] honoring um different individuals uh at some at the different holes and

[17:27] everything. Sydney's one of our honores uh this year and everything. So I do

[17:31] have some flyers and some information that I can share with you uh with QR

[17:35] codes and information like that. So um >> and we'll share that with you. And if

[17:40] you'd like to donate, you can just scan the QR code and donate

[17:44] » in the mic. Sorry. So they can hear mic. Yes. Uh we have a QR code where you can

[17:50] scan the QR code so that you can donate to the cause and we will glad gladly

[17:56] accept any amount so that this can go to a good cause and um you know thank you

[18:01] very much for listening and again um I'm one of the fortunate few that was able

[18:08] to get the kidney. There are millions of people every day that are suffering and

[18:12] won't see another year. So again, any help that you can give would be greatly

[18:18] appreciated. And I am an ambassador now for the National Kidney Foundation and I

[18:22] will be one until I'm no longer here. So thank you very much for listening.

[18:27] » Thank you very much. >> Thanks. Thanks.

[18:30] » Thank you for coming.

[18:35] » Anyone else wish to speak? >> I wouldn't want to follow it either. So

[18:41] all right. Thank you. Appreciate it. We're going to move on to item seven.

[18:46] Bill 3070. Can we please have the title be read?

[18:50] » Bill 3070, an ordinance authorizing a special permit use for AC Richardson LLC

[18:56] owners of the property grounds addressed as 1215 Dealman Industrial Court to

[19:00] permit SSM Health Cardinal Glenn and Pediatric Therapy to operate a 4566

[19:06] square foot medical clinic within the tenant space addressed as 9375 Dealman

[19:10] Industrial Drive. Second reading. Good evening, mayor, members of the city

[19:14] council. My name is Carlos Tre. I'm the director of planning and community

[19:18] development with the city of Alvette. I am here tonight requesting or the

[19:22] council would consider action on bill 3070. This grants a special permit of

[19:26] course to SSM Caro Glennon uh pediatric therapy to operate a 4566

[19:32] foot medical clinic uh on the premises at uh 1215 Deman Industrial Drive. More

[19:36] specifically, the tenant space address is 9375 Dealman. We held a public

[19:41] hearing at our last council meeting. Uh in there there was some comments and

[19:44] questions from the council regarding uh some landscaping and some proposed

[19:48] exterior modifications uh in there. Uh the petition and also a a general layout

[19:54] of what the interior would look like. Uh the interior plans are located within

[19:58] your packet uh in there. But today we did receive an email that had the uh the

[20:03] proposed landscaping uh again putting putting uh three trees on the site

[20:07] grounds and then some shrubbery. Uh those are not in the packet uh in there

[20:15] and city manager Yaki is going to have those up for for me. Thank you, L.

[20:21] But they would utilize that green space uh in between the two parking areas at

[20:25] the corner. Uh put up some trees and then there would be some additional

[20:28] landscaping along the curb side of the parking uh facing uh west. Uh that kind

[20:34] of creates a boundary along that area. and then two additional uh ornamental

[20:39] trees uh within the perimeter of the building. On the next slide,

[20:44] » can I clarify? Sorry to interrupt. >> Absolutely. Go ahead, M.

[20:47] » Option planting. Does that mean it's unclear we're going to do that or

[20:52] like it's not option null. I guess I'm not sure what you mean by option

[20:54] planting. >> I I think we're looking to put have

[20:57] those as part of the condition. >> Yeah, I think that'd be great. And I

[20:59] guess I always will push for Missouri native if possible. That's just a

[21:02] question I would ask why. >> And we'll go through those. We were

[21:05] talking with set final like this point. Okay, thank you.

[21:10] » The next slide will show the types of light replacements that they would place

[21:14] uh on the building and those would be facing uh downward and uh fully cut off.

[21:20] And then the next slide will kind of show the purpose is kind of show the

[21:24] exterior lighting as they would under the new uh light fixtures and then also

[21:28] kind of show it's the upper part of the building, not the brick that was going

[21:32] to get painted, but the other part uh the upper part. They have a darker tone

[21:35] as compared to what the original building had. Uh that just kind of makes

[21:39] it less looking weathered. So So that mayor, that concludes uh the

[21:46] followup regarding the the council's requests. Uh and there'll be glad to

[21:49] answer any specific questions. I know you guys just got to see these three

[21:53] diagrams when we do have representatives here their questions.

[21:57] I yeah, my push would just be as many plantings as possible as native as

[22:00] possible, but I know that's something staff will work with, you know, the

[22:03] group on. So, um, other questions from council.

[22:08] » No, I have no >> No, I appreciate having the layout and

[22:12] seeing, you know, a clear sense of how the space is going to be used, also the

[22:15] signage, and it just really helps to get a a bigger picture of um what this space

[22:21] will look like and how it will be used. and um and I appreciate the extra time

[22:26] and effort to to take those steps. Thank you.

[22:28] » Sure. Okay, then I'll ask uh if anyone wants

[22:32] to make a motion >> soon as the motion comes up. happy too.

[22:38] There's a lot of >> otherwise I'll say

[22:40] » yeah [laughter]

[22:42] » I'll make a motion to approve bill 3070 uh an ordinance authorizing

[22:49] » a special permit use for AC Richardson LLC

[22:54] um owners of the property grounds addressed at 1215 Dealman Industrial

[22:59] Court to permit SSM Health Cardinal Glenn and Pediatric Therapy to operate a

[23:05] 4566qt medical clinic within the tenant space

[23:09] addressed as 9375 Dealman Industrial Drive. The property grounds are zoned as

[23:15] LI Light Industrial District. >> Second.

[23:18] » All right, we have a motion and a second. Uh, can we please call the

[23:21] council? >> Council member Dragel,

[23:23] » yes. >> Council member Solomonov,

[23:25] » yes. >> Council member Clark,

[23:26] » yes. >> Chairman Prom, Sean Helman,

[23:28] » yes. >> Mayor Lewis,

[23:30] » yes. >> The motion is passed. Bill 3070 becomes

[23:32] ordinance 2840. >> Great. Glad to have you here and uh

[23:37] welcome. Thanks for coming in. Appreciate it. So, you're welcome to

[23:41] stay for the entire thing if you want. >> All right. Uh item number eight, bill

[23:48] 3071, please. Bill 3071, an ordinance authorizing a special permit use for New

[23:54] Blueprint Partners LLC owners of the property grounds addressed as 1220 North

[23:58] Price Road to permit AIM field hockey to operate a 6,614

[24:03] ft enclosed recreational use within the tenant space addressed as 1220 North

[24:07] Price Road, Sweet 4, second reading.

[24:12] » Good evening, Mayor. Again, my name is Carlos Trulo. Uh we're not on the

[24:14] record, so I'll leave it at that. Uh this is a request for uh the council to

[24:19] consider action on bill 3071 and that's to authorize a special permit use uh to

[24:25] uh Aimfield hockey to operate a 6614 square foot enclosed uh indoor infield

[24:31] hockey facility at the property. Address is 1220 North Price Road Suite 4. Uh

[24:36] this was before you uh under a uh public hearing at our last meeting. Uh there

[24:42] were some general comments and questions uh more specifically about trying to

[24:46] expedite the uh and assist the petitioners uh with the permitting

[24:49] process on the and that we did meet with them today uh in there. We had

[24:53] discussions. My goal is to get uh the uh the first round of comments to the

[24:58] applicant by tomorrow and they're confident that they can get a a quick

[25:02] turnover and then I'll make sure we work to get that permit out for them. Uh

[25:06] depending on the council's consideration, uh we did look at the

[25:09] parking areas and and all that. Everything seemed to be appropriate.

[25:12] Kind of look use Google to look at the peak times and kind of scope out how the

[25:16] layout the general layout was. I think it works pretty well uh in there. I mean

[25:20] there there were there's spaces you just you know they're not right in the front

[25:24] door but there are spaces that were available throughout the day uh in

[25:28] there. So I I like what I saw. Um and there and then we'll continue to work

[25:32] with the property owner regarding the addressing some of the uh the fencing

[25:36] along the perimeter of the property. >> Makes sense. Any questions from council

[25:41] on this item that we addressed last time?

[25:45] » Sorry, mayor. Sorry to interrupt, but we do have representatives that are here uh

[25:48] both for the building and with it. So, >> um it was pretty thorough last time. I

[25:53] think it was good to get our questions answered. So, um not to say I'm being

[25:56] rude not inviting you up, but we don't have questions. [laughter] So, unless

[26:00] you really want to say okay. Yeah. So, >> all right. No questions for anyone then.

[26:04] » I don't necessarily have a question. um just a a kind of a concern that I'll be

[26:09] interested to just see if this ever becomes something that could be changed

[26:14] or adjusted in the future. Um that would be a larger issue for all tenants of

[26:20] this building. And that's the the odd section that's in front of the building

[26:25] that has the ovalshaped grass and then you've got

[26:31] these two entrances from the side. Um, I can just foresee that potentially

[26:38] being confusing with additional car traffic in there, the different ways to

[26:43] come in and out. And if it's possible in the future as this building is more

[26:49] occupied and used, and um, if it does become a problem, maybe it won't, um, I

[26:54] would love to see that traffic flow improved somehow, just so that it's a

[27:00] little bit cleaner, just one entrance and exit. um just for safety, for

[27:06] ease of use, but I I don't have any issues with this particular use and the

[27:12] um the item that's before us. >> I appreciate your concerns and we'll

[27:16] take a a look at that. We did look at some of the history. I won't go o over

[27:20] like how we got to that point uh in there, but they they're are valid. Uh

[27:24] but I think we'll work with them and then over times something we can take a

[27:28] look at. >> Yeah.

[27:30] » All right. No other questions. Do I hear a motion? I'd

[27:33] » like to make a motion. Sorry. To approve bill 3071, an ordinance authorizing a

[27:39] special permit use for New Blueprint Partners LLC owners of the property

[27:43] grounds addressed as 1220 North Price Road to permit AIM Field Hockey to

[27:48] operate a 6,614 ft enclosed recreational use within the

[27:53] tenant space addressed as 1220 North Price Road Suite 4.

[27:58] » Motion made. Do I hear a second? >> Second. All right. Motion and second.

[28:02] Could we please pull the council? >> Council member Duel.

[28:06] » Yes. >> Council member Solomonov.

[28:08] » Yes. >> Council member Clark.

[28:09] » Yes. >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

[28:11] » Yes. >> Mayor Lewis.

[28:12] » Yes. >> The motion is passed. Bill 3071 becomes

[28:15] ordinance 2841. >> Welcome as well. I'm very excited.

[28:19] » Think you're going to do quite well because I constantly see the great

[28:22] pictures in the great, you know, in the training sessions and things like that.

[28:25] So, good luck. >> And [clears throat] we don't have

[28:28] anything like it and all of that. So exciting to have a new business.

[28:31] » We got it now. >> Yeah.

[28:34] » All right. We'll move on to bill 3072. If we can have the title be read,

[28:37] please. >> Bill 3072, an ordinance to amend section

[28:42] 405-460 condominiums, plats, and add additional

[28:47] requirements being part of the subdivision code of the city of Alvette.

[28:50] Chapter 405, Subdivision Regulations of Title 4 land use of the Alvette

[28:55] municipal code to allow for both residential and non-residential

[28:58] condominium plat. Second reading.

[29:02] » Good evening, mayor. Again, Carlos Tjo, city of Alamett. Uh I'm requesting that

[29:07] the council will consider action on bill 3072. This would amend our subdivision

[29:11] regulations. Uh more specifically to ensure that our condominium planning

[29:15] procedures are consistent with state statute. Be glad to answer any specific

[29:19] questions. We had a public hearing on this matter at our last meeting.

[29:22] » No, this was an interesting one to allow certain businesses. So, makes sense. And

[29:27] we're also complying with what needs to be done, it sounds like. So, any

[29:31] questions from council? >> Any concerns?

[29:35] » No. Okay. Then, anyone want to make a motion?

[29:39] » I'll make a motion to approve bill 3072, an ordinance to amend sections 405.460,

[29:45] 460 condominiums, plats, and additional requirements being part of the

[29:50] subdivision code of the city of Alvette. Chapter 405, subdivision regulations of

[29:55] title forward land use uh of the Alvette municipal code to allow both residential

[30:00] and non-residential condominium plats and additional requirements.

[30:04] » Second. All right. Motion and second. Can we please pull to council?

[30:08] » Council member Durgel, >> yes.

[30:09] » Council member Solomonov, >> yes.

[30:10] » Council member Clark, >> yes.

[30:12] » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman, >> yes. Mayor Lewis.

[30:15] » Yes. >> The motion is passed. Bill 3072 becomes

[30:17] ordinance 2842. >> Excellent.

[30:20] » Thank you. >> Thank you.

[30:23] » Moving right along. First big presentation.

[30:27] Um item 10, Bill 3073. Can we please have the title read? Bill 3073,

[30:33] an ordinance fixing the annual rate of tax levy for 2026 on all property within

[30:38] the city of Alvette, providing for the extension of said taxes on the books of

[30:41] the collector by the county clerk, and providing for the collection thereof.

[30:44] First reading. So today I have a treat for you. I'm

[30:48] going to go over the process for the municipal tax rate setting. Um what we

[30:54] do for um a few months of the year while we prepare the tax rate for you. Um, so

[31:01] I believe that it wasn't in your packet, but this will be part of the minutes,

[31:04] correct? So they'll have an or an opportunity to have a copy of this.

[31:10] » We can post it. >> Oh, okay. So we'll post it. So um if you

[31:14] miss any of part of it, you're welcome to uh ask questions at the end and then

[31:18] you'll get a copy of this um for your reference in the future. So I'll start

[31:23] by going over our annual property and real estate tax rate setting. um for the

[31:30] city. So the topics in this presentation are going to be the purpose of the real

[31:35] and property tax rates, the property appraisal process and the assessment

[31:40] cycle, the equation to convert appraisal to assessed value and some examples. Um,

[31:46] the limits to tax growth, new construction, an example real of a real

[31:51] estate tax bill with the all of it percentage of the total tax, personal

[31:57] property um, and that tax process, an example of a personal property tax bill

[32:03] and the all of it all of it percentage, calculating and setting the rate, what

[32:08] happens after that, and then our proposed 2026 rates with an estimated

[32:13] bill using the 26 rate for one sample. of a residential property. Um, we have a

[32:19] conclusion and then time for question and answers. Questions and answers. Um,

[32:23] just for your reference, I know you're used to seeing a financial report and

[32:26] we'll have that for you at the next meeting. So, won't miss that at all. So

[32:31] the purpose of real and property tax rates um for mun Missouri municipalities

[32:37] and other tax rate setting entities is to have a voter approved and reliable

[32:44] revenue source that helps fund essential services. And in the city of these

[32:49] essential services include our police and fire and parks planning services as

[32:54] well as administrative functions that support the city in these important

[32:57] services. The city also has a separate rate for its city pension and debt

[33:02] service and all three of these rates have been voter approved.

[33:08] The real property appraisals are they occur in odd years. Um Missouri law

[33:13] requires an assessment a reassessment every odd year or every two years in odd

[33:18] number of years numbered years. Um, no general reassessment occurs in even

[33:23] years unless there is a significant change that would prompt a reassessment

[33:29] such as new construction, demolition, major renovation. And then um once a

[33:35] reassessment occurs, property owners receive a notice of that in May. Um

[33:40] there are inspections that are required every six years um for every parcel that

[33:46] has to be um inspected every once every six years. And then any property that

[33:53] increases significantly by more than 15% is also u required to be inspected. And

[33:58] you can also have an owner request an inspection. Commercial inspections

[34:03] require or occur as needed and those are also often tied to significant changes.

[34:08] The valuation method is fair market value and it's determined as of January

[34:12] 1. So your property is appraised as it was on January 1st.

[34:18] » And it said odd years. Is that because we're in our fiscal 2027 year now? Is

[34:22] that why it's for us now? >> Well, we're actually setting the rate

[34:25] for 2026. So we didn't have a reassessment this

[34:29] year. So I'm just mentioning that um we are basically

[34:34] just mentioning the process that they follow. So you'll be aware of that. And

[34:38] then in uh 2020, well 2026 is not a reassessment year. In 2027, it will be a

[34:45] reassessment year. It's just the process that they follow.

[34:48] » It's not it's not specific to all of it. >> Yeah. But it said reassessed. And so

[34:53] this isn't a reassessment year. It's in odd years they reassess.

[34:56] » Correct. Reassess the >> We still do this every year. Obviously

[34:59] » you set property taxes every year. >> Reassess,

[35:01] » right? But we but we reassess every odd year unless there's something unusual

[35:06] like new construction that finishes and is ready for occup occupancy or um or is

[35:13] occupied. Residential um property has to be occupied in order for it to be

[35:18] considered eligible for assessment. So unless something like that happens,

[35:23] major renovation, we won't they won't have a reassessment in an even year. So

[35:28] I'm just giving you a part of the process of what happens.

[35:32] So um the appraised value gets converted to the assessed value using some ratios.

[35:38] For residential it's a 19% um ratio. You multiply that times the

[35:45] appraised market value to get the assessed value.

[35:49] And for commercial it's 32%. And then for agriculture it's 12. But we

[35:55] don't have agricultural uh property in the city of all. And the appraisers use

[36:00] comparable sales. They'll sometimes provide that information either with a

[36:04] property record or in your form that you receive in May. Um they'll use property

[36:09] data and market analysis to determine the appraised value. An example of a

[36:14] home's appraised value and its um assessment value would be in 2025 we had

[36:21] a 1,600 foot oliveette residence. It was pre appraised near $325,000.

[36:28] If you multiply that by 19% you um come up with $61,750

[36:34] and that equals the assessed value and that is the amount that the tax will

[36:40] be assessed on.

[36:44] And an example of commercial property assessment and the correlating

[36:48] percentage of 32%. I have three examples here that I pulled off of the county

[36:53] website. This is with 2025 information. and say you have one appraisal, it's

[36:58] close to 1,70,000. If you multiply that by 32% to get an

[37:03] assessment value of 342,000. So it's less than 1/3 of the appraised value.

[37:12] There are limits to what we can yield in odd and in even years.

[37:19] um and that is limited by the John Hancock amendment of 1980 and it limits

[37:26] any new tax revenue that can occur without a vote. So this whole process um

[37:32] is limited either by CPI um actual growth in property assessments

[37:38] or 5% and it's whichever is least so the lesser of those. So, normally it is CPI.

[37:46] Um, so >> CPI stand for

[37:49] » uh consumer price index >> and I don't know which they use. Um, but

[37:54] I would assume it's probably e CPIU or CPI uh W. I'd say probably U, but I can

[38:00] find that out. It is set by the Missouri State Auditor's office and then it is um

[38:06] certified by the state tax commission. Um and this year it is 2.7% that they're

[38:12] utilizing. Um what happens is that um when the assessments go up or the

[38:19] appraisals and therefore the assessments go up that's included that's considered

[38:23] growth. Um so if you have an assessment city's assessment that goes up usually

[38:30] their rate will go down to keep the city revenue neutral except for that CPI or

[38:35] 5% or growth whichever is least. So, and I can show an example of that next

[38:42] at the next meeting. New construction is handled a little bit

[38:46] differently. Um, we the first year only. Um, new residential construction is

[38:54] considered eligible for assessment upon occupancy. As I mentioned, for

[38:58] commercial property, the standard is when it's available for occupancy. So,

[39:01] obviously, you can have property that is eligible to be rented out still can be

[39:06] assessed by the assessor. they still owe the tax based on that date. Um, new

[39:11] construction values are excluded in the tax calculation the first year. And

[39:16] you've probably seen this on the tax um rate presentation where they mention

[39:22] what amount is uh due to new construction. Um the past two years it's

[39:28] been around $20,000. We get the new construction free the first year and

[39:33] then subsequent years it's rolled into the equation. So, um, so that's nice to

[39:40] allow a one-year bump in revenue for new for new construction. Um, we also

[39:46] receive tiff increment values, incremental values, and they are also

[39:50] handled differently. The increment values are deducted from the property

[39:54] tax values. So, the city does not receive any tax for those properties.

[39:59] They are um they are not factored um into the equations.

[40:05] So let's show you an example of a residential

[40:09] bill. Um this is a sample olivet percentage of

[40:12] the total tax too. So you can see the assessed valuation

[40:17] um in the middle says total valuation is 64380.

[40:21] If you were to divide that by 19% you'd get the appraised value 338,

[40:28] almost 339. So, this property had a tax bill of

[40:33] $4,412 in 2025.

[40:37] It was actually $4362 plus the sewer lateral fee of $50. It's assessed on

[40:43] every property for that program. Um, you can see on the right side the city of

[40:50] the amount that pertain to the city of for our property tax rate that we set is

[40:56] 652.81.

[41:00] And you'll see on the next page that that amount totals 15% of the total tax

[41:07] that was assessed on this property. You can see the number of other um taxing

[41:14] entities and the school district up at the top. So 15% is what was assessed for

[41:19] this property's residential property tax by the city of Olivet.

[41:25] Next is personal property. that includes cars, trucks, boats, motorcycles,

[41:30] recreational vehicles, and uh businesses equipment, large equipment. Every year,

[41:36] the county assessor sends us a form and we fill it out um after where what we

[41:41] owned as of January 1st that has to be turned in um by April 1st of each year.

[41:47] And then the St. Lewis County Assessor's Office uses the true value or a tradein

[41:52] value to determine the appraised value of that equipment or those vehicles, the

[41:57] personal property. And they use an assessed valuation um percentage of 33

[42:03] and a3, so onethird of the tradein value for your vehicle um or vehicles.

[42:10] The next page shows what [clears throat] a property tax would be for a 2000 a

[42:17] year 2000 passenger car worth $300. I had a hard time finding one property

[42:22] that had just one car so I could give the example. So so this vehicle's

[42:26] tradein value is $300. Um and the assessed value is one third

[42:31] or $100. And you can see that um the third item

[42:37] down is our city of et property tax rate or tax fee

[42:42] property tax of $142. It's equal to about 10.6% of the total

[42:48] bill. You'll also see a flat fee on there for 550. That's because the city

[42:53] does charge a flat $5.50 fee for every every vehicle that we have uh that

[42:59] owners have in the city. So for property tax it uh all of it

[43:05] receives about 11% of the tax bill or they we did in 2025.

[43:11] You'll also see the road and bridge all of it and that's less than 1% and that's

[43:16] just the road and bridge tax that every city receives and we use that for our

[43:22] capital projects and our roads. Um calculating and setting the rate follows

[43:28] a specific process. I'm going to show you the process we follow should follow

[43:32] every year and it follows follows a specific timeline. Um, initially St.

[43:38] Louis County publicizes their preliminary assessment roles. So that

[43:43] happens in early to mid July and that's for residential, commercial and personal

[43:47] property um, new construction and tiff

[43:51] incremental values. The city of Alvette and other taxing entities download those

[43:56] roles and they enter the data and they also download the Missouri state auditor

[44:01] calculator. We input the values into the calculator and we upload the data to the

[44:05] Missouri state auditor's portal for review. They um respond usually within 3

[44:11] days and we receive an email notification as well that it is that our

[44:16] review is ready and we can download their perform proforma or form um for

[44:22] our records. And this is them basically um approving the rate or giving us the

[44:28] rate based on the inputs and that matches our information from our use of

[44:33] the calculator. It's a it's a check um a way to check the information. Next, um

[44:39] the city prepares their preliminary real and property tax rates for information

[44:44] um of given to the city officials and the public and that is from the

[44:49] preliminary assessment reports. Then, uh St. Louis County residents and property

[44:55] owners can appeal their property appraisals

[44:58] um to the board of equalization um by the second Monday in July. When

[45:04] these hearings are held from July until the last Saturday in August, um and once

[45:10] that is complete, the county has final assessments to provide um to taxing

[45:16] entities and that's usually midepptember and they post those to their website.

[45:21] the city of Olivet and other taxing entities downloads download those final

[45:26] post board of equalization assessment roles and again utilize the Missouri

[45:31] auditor's calculator set final numbers upload it to the auditor portal we do

[45:36] the whole process again and obtain the auditor's performer this year the um

[45:42] post VOE rates were miraculously set on September 4th so I was able to quickly

[45:49] incorporate those into our presentation into our packet.

[45:54] So the final rates and they have been um reviewed by the state auditor. Um they

[46:00] actually were working yesterday and sent it yesterday. But so that is done. Uh

[46:06] the next step will be for us to uh publish a public notice and then hold a

[46:12] a public hearing to review and then ask the council to approve the rates.

[46:20] So after the rates are set, um we and approved by the council, we certify the

[46:28] rates with our um our clerk um filling out paperwork and sending a we send a

[46:35] copy of the ordinance to this St. Louis County um

[46:40] uh revenue office. St. Louis County prepares the tax bills. Those are

[46:44] delivered to homeowners in November and they charge us 1.5%

[46:50] for the preparation and delivery of those bills and then that fee is

[46:56] deducted from from our payments. Um, usually there's a one month lag um

[47:03] in the receipts that we receive from so if they receive payments in November,

[47:07] we'll receive them usually in December. Sometimes there are multiple payments

[47:11] during busy busy months. Um but the majority of the payments are received by

[47:16] February. So December through February.

[47:22] Um the 2026 real and property tax rates um as I mentioned were posted on

[47:29] September 4th. Told you about the process that we went through. You can

[47:34] see the rates are here for you and they were um should be also in the ordinance

[47:39] that we uh prepared for you. And then you can see the um St. Louis County

[47:45] assessment how they present that on their website

[47:49] what we download from that um from that website.

[47:58] » So >> how does this compare to uh the previous

[48:01] year? >> Right. I did that calculation and I have

[48:05] it ready for you. So, it's about um a little more than 2.7% for the

[48:12] residential and u personal property tax and then there's also an increase for

[48:17] debt. The um the total increase or total change is about 4%. So, I can show you

[48:24] that um at the next meeting >> 4%. But that so that's more than CPI but

[48:30] that is based on when we um provide the information to do the calculation for

[48:36] our debt service that doesn't have the John Hackencock limit. It's basically we

[48:40] indicate what we need for a debt service um what we need for reserve and what our

[48:45] payments are coming up and it's based on the um um assessments and u the

[48:54] correlating amount is what we need to pay the debt service. So, that's a

[48:57] little bit of an outlier. Um, but the the tax, the ceiling limited u property

[49:04] tax and real estate tax is a little bit more than 2.7% and that would make sense

[49:10] because we're able to have that new construction bump of one year, but I'll

[49:14] show all of that in great detail for you on the 22nd. And I can go ahead. Well,

[49:19] to clarify, when you say 4% and I'm forgetting the term,

[49:23] annoying me all night, but when we say if the tax rate was 6% last time, you're

[49:27] going to 4% you're saying it's like 6.24 now, or are you saying it's you're not

[49:30] saying it's 10 is what? Like, >> oh no.

[49:33] » Yeah, that's what I thought. It only 4% increase from what it was last time.

[49:36] » Correct. >> Okay. What's the term when you just

[49:38] increase the total? >> Incremental.

[49:41] » Incremental. >> No, no,

[49:42] » that's okay. It'll come [snorts] in sleep. So,

[49:47] » yeah. mainly, you know, if constituents ask us how come the rate is higher than

[49:50] the CPI, we should have a good answer at the council.

[49:53] » New construction, it'll be new construction. If you're taking a look at

[49:56] real and property tax, it's the new construction. Debt service is a little

[50:01] bit different the way that it is calculated. And again, that's just based

[50:05] on what we need for debt service, what we project our fund balance is going to

[50:09] be, and you know, having one, you know, a reasonable reserve. So, I can show you

[50:15] those calculations as well. basis. Where else?

[50:20] » Oh, basis. Yeah. >> So, here's an example um of a $325,000

[50:26] home with a 2026 tax rate. Uh it would be $665.

[50:35] So in conclusion, this tax rate setting process is guided by the Missouri state

[50:40] statute, the Missouri state auditor's office. There are procedures and

[50:44] calculators as well as the Hancock amendment which limits the amount of tax

[50:49] increase again to actual growth CPI or 5% whichever is least. And state statute

[50:55] requires public notification and engagement through public notice. then a

[50:59] public hearing process which will occur again at your next meeting on September

[51:03] 22nd and then the tax rates are approved by the highest authority in our city

[51:08] which is our city council um all of you of course and then

[51:14] certified and sent to the county for tax bill preparation

[51:17] and this um tax process and correlating revenue

[51:23] provides not only for necessary essential services but also for our debt

[51:28] service and our pension. So those are the the three components and you can see

[51:34] the three components on the next page which is just Q&A and if you'd like you

[51:40] know just to have those for your reference.

[51:45] Oh I'm sorry. Do you have any questions or comments other than you've already

[51:50] brought up or >> Yep. Just for the presentation on the

[51:53] 22nd. It' be good to see side by side what it was in 25 versus 26. Yeah, that

[52:00] » I've got that ready for you. >> That' be great for personal and home and

[52:03] everything because that's >> I agree. Not only an example and numbers

[52:08] because it's just helpful when people ask why it went up or why it goes down

[52:11] next year or >> maybe up for new construction this year.

[52:14] Next year it might adjust back. Who knows?

[52:17] » Absolutely. >> Okay.

[52:18] » Well, it's always going to be always usually going to be up a little bit

[52:22] hopefully with new construction with the activity that's happening in the city.

[52:27] So, we'll have to see >> other questions from council.

[52:32] » All right, we'll have a second reading on September 22nd. Thank you very much.

[52:35] You bet. >> Appreciate it.

[52:38] » All right, we will move on to item 11. Bill 3074.

[52:45] » Bill 3074, an ordinance authorizing the city of Alvette to enter into and

[52:50] execute a contract with St. Louis County, Missouri for vector control

[52:53] services and authorizing and directing the city manager of the city of Alvette

[52:56] to enter into on behalf of said city a contract with St. Louis County, Missouri

[53:00] for vector control services. First reading

[53:08] » and Miss Jaffy, you're presenting this one, right?

[53:17] » All right. Um, good evening. So

[53:22] last year, last March, um the city council approved a contract with St.

[53:28] Louis County for vector control, which essentially is um spraying for

[53:34] mosquitoes as well as handling any rodent abatement on a as needed basis.

[53:42] Um and it came to our attention uh a week ago that uh St. St. Louis County

[53:49] didn't have a copy of that contract and they had not been providing the city

[53:54] services this past spring and summer. And so after talking with St. Louis

[53:59] County um they would not accept a copy of last year's ordinance and so they

[54:05] would like a new ordinance um in order to provide services um moving forward.

[54:13] The contract you can see the contract fees right there. Um the contract is

[54:18] typically for five years and it does um larvae sighting, adult sighting and

[54:25] rodent abatement. Um I believe there is additional information

[54:31] for St. Louis County.

[54:35] Uh they provided some detailed information about what that means. So

[54:40] St. Louis County does surveillance of all of St. Louis County uh tracking and

[54:46] kind of looking to see where mosquitoes are so that they can try and do um

[54:50] either targeted larvae sighting, so killing the larvae or targeted uh

[54:56] spraying. And then of course the rodent abatement um is for the Norway rat and

[55:02] that is on a um per as needed basis. So we would call them to say we are having

[55:10] rodent issues please come out and uh address that for us. So this is in front

[55:15] of the count council for first reading only.

[55:19] » I see the rates by hour. Do we have an estimated total cost?

[55:23] » Um it's about $2500 >> a year

[55:27] » for a year. >> Okay. Um

[55:32] all right. Uh questions. >> A couple questions. Um, do we know where

[55:36] our sites are specifically that they monitor?

[55:40] » Not specifically. They are throughout all of St. Louis County and I don't know

[55:45] if there are sites specific in all of it, but I can certainly ask them.

[55:50] Does Bruce know >> in all of it?

[55:56] » Would you like to come to the mic? >> Yes, you would.

[56:03] That's called >> Can we go through each one?

[56:05] [clears throat] >> Well, I'm told

[56:08] » Bruce McGregor public works mosquito expert. Not really, but anyway. Um,

[56:12] according to historical records, of course, some of this is reported by

[56:16] residents to the county, so there's an eb and flow of locations, but there are

[56:20] 66 different spots. Some of those are combined uh well, we have very few

[56:25] combined storm and sanitary sewers. we have certain ditches around like there's

[56:30] some along I170 in areas where we have some ponding uh in there but I have a

[56:35] list um we can request it at the end of the season of where they've been out and

[56:40] where they're monitoring where they uh place uh the you know the larvide pods

[56:45] and then with the mosquito spraying residents can opt out on streets as

[56:49] well. That's an important note. So, if there's a honeybee hive, they they do

[56:54] try to go late at night when the hives are a little bit more dormant, but there

[56:58] there is an option to opt out of a uh a larvaiding or a spraying.

[57:02] » Is it an individual house that's optioned out or a street?

[57:05] » A street. >> How does that work if I don't want it or

[57:08] my neighbor? >> You you would call the county say we

[57:10] want to be off the larvaiding list. You might not be on there. I don't have that

[57:13] one for the spraying. I just have the one here right now with the uh where

[57:17] they place the pellets and they check first if the stagnant water has any um

[57:22] like evidence that where they're going to get some uh some growth.

[57:27] [clears throat]

[57:31] » Well, you're saying I think >> yeah explain it a little further. I

[57:35] don't get it. >> Okay. So, there's two different ways

[57:38] that they're treating here. Okay. Number one, they're trying to prevent water

[57:42] from get becoming stagnant and allowing the mosquitoes to breed, right? So that

[57:46] there are areas that they go around and they check that spots that have

[57:50] historically held water that is stagnant. Uh and then they would look at

[57:54] that water and to say, "Okay, this is a good spot for us to put one of the

[57:58] treatment pellets in there that would would kill any of the the larae that are

[58:02] growing." Okay. And then there's the spray, right, that goes out in the

[58:06] middle of the truck. They do that very late at night or early in the morning.

[58:10] They do that because honeybees at that time are aren't active. They're in the

[58:14] nest. So that's to mitigate the risk on our good pollinators and our good

[58:18] insects uh around. And that fogging is to get the mosquitoes that are out in

[58:23] the air that are adults. Okay. So those are the two we to date in

[58:28] and mine we have never used the um uh rodent control but if we had a area that

[58:34] was a trashinfested uh a hoarding situation we could ask

[58:39] them to come out and help with baiting and trapping but we've never done that

[58:42] in the years that I've been here. >> Does that help?

[58:45] » Yes. >> So I'm assuming for the services they

[58:48] didn't do over the spring and summer we're not paying for that right.

[58:51] » Well they they would they bill for services as performed.

[58:55] Okay. So it there's each year it's a little bit different, right? We have a

[58:59] lot of rain in the spring and that can be right temperatures, right, for the

[59:04] mosquitoes to breed or we could have like periods of very dry like right now

[59:08] where we're going to have very few ponding areas that the mosquitoes would

[59:12] be growing, >> right? They go through the whole season

[59:14] and then they actually bill us in January for the previous year

[59:18] » and >> and we can request the information.

[59:20] They're pretty good about getting us the the information about when they've been

[59:24] out and so on. >> Okay. And the five-year contract, I'm

[59:27] assuming we're locking in the rates. Is that part of the contract?

[59:31] » I don't know if they have a um I'd have to look in the detail on it to see if

[59:36] there's a uh like an adjustment, an annual adjustment,

[59:40] » right? >> Uh clause. I don't I don't recall that

[59:44] there is, but >> yeah, I don't recall that these are up

[59:49] slightly from last year. So, we may lock them in or it may I mean, it's only a

[59:54] couple dollars that it's gone up. So, >> Bruce, I'm a a little confused. In the

[1:00:00] the document here, it says that throughout St. Louis County, there's 234

[1:00:04] sites that are pre-selected trap sites. Uh we don't have 66 of those.

[1:00:12] pre-selected trap site in all of it, I'm assuming.

[1:00:16] » Well, so I am looking here for uh through a list that goes through um

[1:00:23] various locations that they have either checked or gone through like creek

[1:00:27] behind BP AMO gas station, uh Standing Water Railroad tracks, um creek along

[1:00:34] 1360 North Price. that I mean they check it. It I don't I'd have to go into more

[1:00:40] detail to see if they've uh they treated the area or not, but it seems like

[1:00:44] they're they're really quite active going out um and looking at areas like

[1:00:49] where the river to pair is the different branches through the community. Some of

[1:00:53] these might be resident driven. >> So these are what you're seeing on the

[1:00:57] screen is trap sites. I think what you may be talking about is checks that

[1:01:01] they're doing. This is a report from from the county that they've gone out

[1:01:04] and they've looked at in different spots.

[1:01:07] » Is there anything we can do to minimize the amount of stagnant water?

[1:01:12] » The best I mean on at the resident type level, right? It is local things like

[1:01:17] making sure you don't have standing water on your own property, right? So

[1:01:21] that could be gutters that don't drain, a old tire in the backyard, a flower pot

[1:01:26] that is full of leaves on the bottom is sitting out somewhere. Those are the

[1:01:30] best things owner can do is actively look at your property and make sure you

[1:01:34] don't have stagnant water uh you know that's growing there. It's a little bit

[1:01:38] harder for the general homeowner to go out and clear like a ditch that might be

[1:01:43] in the rightway behind their house or in between properties to make sure the flow

[1:01:48] is flow is going. But you know certainly you know to look for those items but

[1:01:52] that that's where the mosquitoes are grown. Is that something the city could

[1:01:55] do to help with some of that drainage? You know, is that

[1:01:59] » that's the reach for us to to have the capacity to go out and be really looking

[1:02:03] at those things. Yeah. >> I will say one thing though that u parks

[1:02:07] did um is uh well actually I don't know if it was parks or if it was all of it

[1:02:12] in bloom um but there was some citizen education around this mosquito bucket

[1:02:17] challenge. >> Yeah. where you actually put a bucket

[1:02:20] out to attract mosquitoes, but it has larvide in it so that the mosquito

[1:02:24] » sterilize the swarm. >> Yeah, they Well, not that. No, that is

[1:02:28] some very cool science that is happening, but okay, we're not there

[1:02:31] yet. >> Um, but no, this is just you set a

[1:02:35] bucket full of water to bring the >> bring the mosquitoes in, they lay eggs,

[1:02:40] and the eggs die. >> Okay. Um I

[1:02:45] having a little bit of background in the science of this um I don't have any

[1:02:49] problem with larvaiding. I do have a problem with adulticiditing with the

[1:02:53] spray that is broadcast into the air and only works if it happens to hit a

[1:03:01] mosquito that's in its adult phase at that moment when it is being sprayed. It

[1:03:06] is also very effective at killing any other winged insect

[1:03:11] um that it might be flying at that time. It's indiscriminate.

[1:03:16] Um as opposed to the larvaide which targets specifically the larvae. Um so I

[1:03:25] am not and the science also does not demonstrate that adulting is effective

[1:03:31] at controlling mosquito populations where larva sighting is shown to be um

[1:03:37] effective. So I think I would like to know a little bit more information about

[1:03:44] um the counties. It sounds like it's very

[1:03:49] targeted when they do the adult deciding.

[1:03:52] » Absolutely. >> So, I'd like to know a little bit more

[1:03:55] about that process, what the threshold trigger levels are and then what

[1:04:01] additional um precautions >> are taken and in place to minimize any

[1:04:07] of those um kind of fallon effects >> that that happen from spraying. Um

[1:04:16] » I know they do look at the climactic conditions right before they go out you

[1:04:19] know making sure that it is the optimal time and we can get more information

[1:04:23] from the department about you know exactly the you know the the procedure

[1:04:27] that they use to decide okay this is a good night to send the crew out and and

[1:04:31] this is why and or and vice versa you know this is when we don't send the

[1:04:35] trucks out uh for these conditions because we don't want this to you know

[1:04:39] to move more or disperse too much >> with the Yeah. And we could I it's an

[1:04:44] interesting question of could we target to say we like laride and we want to

[1:04:48] continue that but we don't >> I think that's a greater a greater you

[1:04:52] know question for discussion and in more detail and get more information

[1:04:55] » I think it'd be helpful to understand if that's an option in the contract I

[1:04:57] assume it would be it >> it's come this has come up before over

[1:05:00] the years um you know certainly everybody you know the standing water

[1:05:04] that's that's a really easy lowhanging fruit to approach the um there's always

[1:05:09] you know two sides on the adulticiding and the spray Okay. Um, you know, some

[1:05:14] people really really, you know, believe in it. And then, you know, we really

[1:05:17] want to watch that collateral damage, uh, you know, with our other good

[1:05:22] insects, we'll say. >> Yeah.

[1:05:24] » And just to be clear, too, this is not the same as like there there's term

[1:05:30] fogging out there where a truck would just come by and just drive through the

[1:05:35] whole city just spraying. >> That's what it is. It's an atomizer. I

[1:05:40] don't the science the technology behind it. I don't have the exact details of

[1:05:44] what it is. The city actually used to have a machine for fogger that we used.

[1:05:49] » But my my question is if a delta sighting were to happen,

[1:05:54] » it it would be in the one location where it is um

[1:06:02] » or or is it >> it's discriminate. It is not like just

[1:06:05] random driving around everywhere just just to do it.

[1:06:10] And we have the um I have a route and a location from that. I have to out

[1:06:14] » reach out to you ahead of time to say, "Hey, we're going to do these five areas

[1:06:18] or no?" >> No.

[1:06:20] » Okay. So, they decide what what area they want to do and they target those

[1:06:22] and they do specific ones where maybe residents called or maybe they've

[1:06:26] noticed a significant >> Right. This his based on historical

[1:06:30] data, this is one where we've noticed it's at the low of a of an area and

[1:06:34] we've noticed exceptional. Is it possible to share with us the areas for

[1:06:38] each >> I can we can get those

[1:06:40] » that'd be helpful you know at least the historical one and and um uh I can find

[1:06:45] that I may even have it in in the files here I just happen to have this one with

[1:06:49] the larva sighting here all the different locations

[1:06:51] » how often were they treated I don't even know if they go more than once to an

[1:06:54] area or not you know a resident calls multiple times are you going to go

[1:06:57] multiple times I don't know >> okay that'd be helpful thank you

[1:07:00] » yeah sure >> so for the record how does someone

[1:07:03] report an area that is confessed. >> He called the same the county the county

[1:07:07] office. >> Okay. And if you want to opt out of the

[1:07:10] service, what do you do? >> The same thing you report in.

[1:07:13] » Same. Okay. >> Yeah.

[1:07:15] » Okay. >> But I guess it'd be interesting unless

[1:07:17] they found that they think your area needs adult sighting or love sighting,

[1:07:22] you may not ever be serviced anyway. >> It's possible. Yeah.

[1:07:25] » Okay. Okay. Okay. So, a follow-up item is to

[1:07:30] get clarity on which sites, how many, how often, um, how they choose, those

[1:07:34] kind of things. >> Okay.

[1:07:36] » And I do have some further information that I pulled from the Xeries Society,

[1:07:42] which is on invertebrate conservation, um, an article from St. Louis Public

[1:07:47] Radio. I have a few different articles here. Um, if council members are

[1:07:50] interested in learning more about spraying for mosquitoes,

[1:07:58] All right. Any other follow-up questions?

[1:08:01] Okay. Well, we'll have a second reading. Um, and obviously that uh other

[1:08:05] information will be helpful. Thank you very much for stepping up unannounced

[1:08:08] unexpectedly. >> Okay. Uh, can we please move on to item

[1:08:14] number 12, consideration of 2026 2027 Missouri qualified vendor list pickup

[1:08:19] purchase for the public works department.

[1:08:22] » All right. Good evening again, Bruce McGregor, public works. Um, I am here to

[1:08:27] you to ask for a new truck to replace uh another oldest vehicle in the fleet uh

[1:08:34] truck that at public works. This is uh has been predominantly the mechanics

[1:08:40] pickup. And uh over the past two years doing snow removal operations

[1:08:46] uh with Five Oaks in full service uh we've determined the need for a smaller

[1:08:51] vehicle, a little bit more more nimble. And with this truck uh replacement

[1:08:56] coming up, we want to outfit this one with a plow to supplement the uh the

[1:09:02] rest of the equipment to help fill in the gaps. Uh really we had always uh

[1:09:08] plowed over at the old Grand View site where the community center was. So now

[1:09:12] we have that one and we have Five Oaks and parks departments pulled around as

[1:09:17] well doing the well the other uh city parks. So, uh, we want to have a, uh, an

[1:09:22] extra vehicle to to help fill in and supplement staff. So, uh, this is for a

[1:09:28] 2027 F250.

[1:09:33] » All right. >> Looking at the the price that we have

[1:09:36] here, um, it looks like the 48,000 and in the capital improvement there was

[1:09:40] 68,000. Is this a rare example where it's underbudgeted?

[1:09:44] » No, we don't have the plow equipment. So that is for the uh so so whenever we

[1:09:49] build out a truck, there's the truck that you get from the dealer and then it

[1:09:53] goes to an equipment builder. So they install like the if it doesn't come with

[1:09:57] a backup alarm, a backup uh beacon, they do the emergency lights. In this case,

[1:10:02] we'll have a uh combo electric hydraulic snowplow to go on there. Uh so that's

[1:10:07] what the difference is uh in there for the rest of the equipment built.

[1:10:11] » Is it a diesel? No, this is just a gas uh a gas engine. We diesel is a whole

[1:10:17] another discussion. >> Clouds also serve as salt trucks. Do

[1:10:22] they get >> We didn't plan this one to be a salt

[1:10:26] truck as well, but yes, all of the other trucks have what we call VBOX spreaders.

[1:10:30] And they have saddle tanks to hold liquid calcium chloride that we use to

[1:10:34] supplement the salt when the weather is below 18°.

[1:10:38] » Is there a reason why this one wouldn't have the spreader on the back? We don't

[1:10:42] know if we have a need for that right now. Um really we have the more of a

[1:10:46] time that we need to get the lots cleared uh and then we can send the

[1:10:50] other trucks out with the bigger spreaders uh on there, but certainly

[1:10:53] it's something we could add in the future, but we didn't plan for it this

[1:10:56] go around. >> But it's possible to add

[1:10:58] » Absolutely. It's a regular pickup with the weight class. Uh we could put a

[1:11:01] small B or small spreader in the back. Uh but we feel like we have it's getting

[1:11:06] the snow off. We have capacity with the other trucks to do uh to do salting.

[1:11:14] » All right. Any other questions from anyone?

[1:11:17] » I'll take a motion then, please. >> I'd like to make a motion to authorize

[1:11:20] the city manager to issue a purchase order to Joe Mackin Ford in an amount

[1:11:24] not to exceed $48,56 for the purchase of one 2027 Ford F250

[1:11:30] four-wheel drive as quoted. >> Second.

[1:11:33] » All right. Motion and second. Can we please pull the council? Council member

[1:11:37] Dragel, >> yes.

[1:11:38] » Council member Solomonov, >> yes.

[1:11:39] » Council member Clark, >> yes.

[1:11:41] » Chairman Pro Bashan Elman, >> yes.

[1:11:42] » Mayor Lewis, >> yes.

[1:11:44] » Motion has passed. >> Thank you.

[1:11:46] » Thank you. >> Thank you.

[1:11:48] » All right, we'll move on to item 13. Request for approval to repair the air

[1:11:51] conditioning system on the primary fire truck.

[1:11:58] » Good evening, Mr. Mayor, city council, Miss Yakley. My name is Steve Carman,

[1:12:03] fire chief, city of Alvette Fire Department. During a recent maintenance

[1:12:08] check, technicians identified severe degragation within the pumper's AC

[1:12:13] system. Uh the crew came to us and was complaining that the AC was blowing out

[1:12:19] warm air. So, we had them take it down to Sentinel and Sentinel run a test on

[1:12:24] it and figured out that the compressor was bad. And as they took it apart, they

[1:12:29] found metal shavings all throughout the hose lines in the truck.

[1:12:35] So once metallic debris enters into the hose line, it contaminates the entire

[1:12:40] circuit, the condenser, evaporator line, compressor. So flushing the system is

[1:12:46] insufficient and doesn't guarantee reliability

[1:12:50] as residual I'm sorry metal will cause repeated

[1:12:56] immediate compressor failure. So the fire department is requesting a motion

[1:13:02] to authorize the repair of the fire trucks air conditioning system at a cost

[1:13:08] not to exceed $25,100. If you have any questions, I can take

[1:13:13] questions at this time. That was a rough couple weeks.

[1:13:16] » It has been. Yes. Yes. Never happens at a good time.

[1:13:21] » No. No. With something that expensive, does it come with a warranty at least of

[1:13:26] $25,000? >> Well, I have to check that. I didn't ask

[1:13:30] that question. The sticker shock was right.

[1:13:34] » Do they know where the metal shavings are coming from?

[1:13:36] » It's the compressor. The compressor basically was falling apart inside and

[1:13:42] sent the metal shavings throughout the hose lines.

[1:13:46] » You're tough ass. >> They can handle it.

[1:13:48] » Well, they're wearing light clothing in there, so you know, very cooling

[1:13:51] clothing. >> It's going to get cold in a few weeks

[1:13:53] anyway. Let them hang on for a while. [laughter]

[1:13:56] » All right. Well, I'll have you vote on that.

[1:14:00] » You have any questions? >> No, I don't have

[1:14:02] » No. All right. Well, all right. Do we hear a motion then? I'll make a motion

[1:14:06] to authorize the repair of the firetruck's air conditioning system at a

[1:14:10] cost not to exceed $25,100. >> I second.

[1:14:13] » Yeah. You please pull the council. >> Council member Dragal.

[1:14:17] » Yes. >> Council member Solomonov.

[1:14:19] » Yes. >> Council member Clark.

[1:14:20] » Yes. >> Chairman Prom Helman.

[1:14:22] » Yes. >> Mayor Lewis.

[1:14:23] » Yes. >> The motion is passed.

[1:14:25] » Thank you. >> How soon will it be done? Um, originally

[1:14:29] he told me two to four weeks, but then um, just in time for the pool. But, um,

[1:14:35] I had a conversation with him and he said it would take probably a week.

[1:14:39] » Okay. >> So,

[1:14:41] » all right. Enjoy the coolness. >> Thank you.

[1:14:43] » All right. We'll move on to item 14, consideration of 2026 2027 Missouri

[1:14:48] qualified vendor list pickup purchase. Pickup purchase for the parks division.

[1:14:53] Everyone gets a truck. >> If I can, you would get a truck.

[1:14:56] Exactly. That's right. >> Good evening, uh, mayor and city council

[1:14:59] members. I'm Patrick McGee, the assistant, uh, park and recck director.

[1:15:03] Billy Beverly is out, uh, on vacation. Uh, but we are here to ask, um, to

[1:15:09] replace one of our trucks. This is kind of our doit all truck. It goes around

[1:15:14] and picks up all the trash from all the dog pots, all the parks, um, hauls waste

[1:15:18] wheelers to and from special events. Kind of a do-it-all truck for um, for

[1:15:23] our parks department. So, it is an important uh we replacing the oldest

[1:15:28] truck in our parks fleet and we asked for your consideration um and helping us

[1:15:34] replace us with something. We also did include um in the bid. You'll notice

[1:15:38] that u a headache rack, which I didn't know exactly what that was, but to keep

[1:15:42] things from breaking the back window um if it's in the back of the truck from

[1:15:46] sliding forward and hitting a window >> rack is what?

[1:15:48] » Yeah, it's called a headache rack. I thought it was a great name for it,

[1:15:50] actually. Yeah. >> And uh the other um option was to do a

[1:15:55] spray-in bed liner. We had noticed that, you know, when we put a lot of that

[1:15:59] trash in the tra in the bed of the truck that that stuff was getting under the

[1:16:03] plastic bed liner and kind of deteriorating the bed a lot quicker. So

[1:16:07] the spray and bed liner will kind of protect the bed a lot longer. So, and

[1:16:12] it's for relatively, you know, under $1,000 to do that, too. So, we are

[1:16:17] trying to keep our stuff uh looking nicer and this is um definitely one of

[1:16:23] the trucks that we could use replaced for sure.

[1:16:25] » Okay. All right. Um questions from the

[1:16:29] council. >> Just the frugal part of me has to ask.

[1:16:33] We have public works with their trucks. You guys have your own trucks. Is there

[1:16:38] ever an opportunity to share some of the vehicles or are they totally I guess

[1:16:41] they're parked in different places? Bruce likes big trucks and we have to

[1:16:46] get in small spaces often. You know, you see some of the trails throughout our

[1:16:49] parks. We have to have something that's maybe a little more nimble. Uh smaller

[1:16:53] like an F-150 paired to an F250, just a kind of a different animal. Uh this is

[1:16:58] also, you know, it's not towing large loads, but it is moving. It's got an 8

[1:17:04] foot bed, so it's a fullsize truck, so we can use that. Um, a lot of Bruce's

[1:17:09] vehicles and some of even our other parks vehicles are it's like um

[1:17:15] overkill, I guess would be the best way to say it. Um, having the current truck

[1:17:19] we have now is a is a Chevy Silverado. So, again, a smaller pickup. So, we're

[1:17:23] replacing like with like because that's what works to get around to all those

[1:17:28] picnic spots and trails and it's it's nice to have something that's smaller as

[1:17:32] opposed to a >> got it

[1:17:34] » big beast of a truck. Am I correct that I think we you'd allocated 55 thou this

[1:17:38] was the planned and we'd allocated 55,000 for this but we're going to get

[1:17:42] it for almost 10,000 less. Is that correct?

[1:17:45] » That's correct. >> So where did I'm just curious where's

[1:17:47] that 10,000 go? >> Well it's going to it would stay in the

[1:17:51] capital improvement fund. >> Yeah.

[1:17:53] » Um and just knowing budgets as I know

[1:17:57] budgets likely going to be something else.

[1:17:59] » Hypothetically an air conditioning repair.

[1:18:01] » I hope not. Um, but if it does not get spent, then it stays it stays in the

[1:18:06] capital improvement fund. >> Okay. Yeah.

[1:18:08] » But it's nice to have a rainy day if things when things if things pop up,

[1:18:12] » right? If something else pops up. >> Okay.

[1:18:14] » Good. Other questions from the council? >> I noticed this both on the earlier truck

[1:18:18] thing, but didn't really think to ask the question. Uh, the hybrid versus

[1:18:23] non-hybrid, was any effort made to look at a hybrid version?

[1:18:27] » Um, >> and I I have no idea what the price

[1:18:30] difference would be. I do know that uh the electric versions were obviously out

[1:18:36] of our out of that price range and we also don't have the capacity for

[1:18:40] charging stations and I don't believe there are uh really available around a

[1:18:45] lot of spots around all of that if I'm mistaken on that. I apologize.

[1:18:49] » Hybrid hybrid wouldn't be electric necessarily.

[1:18:52] » Yeah, that would be um we did not look into any any hybrid um trucks for for

[1:18:57] this truck specifically. Perhaps something to think about as we

[1:19:01] look at when we replace future ones is does it make sense or do they wear down

[1:19:05] sooner? I don't I don't know. >> Yeah. And getting I think it'd be

[1:19:08] interesting to get kind of a cost comparison if you know you you pay more

[1:19:11] for it upfront but >> with gas two years, you know, does it

[1:19:15] even out? >> Oh, well. All right.

[1:19:18] » First thoughts. [laughter] >> All right. Having experience with hybrid

[1:19:22] vehicles, the nature of our driving patterns doesn't really suit the

[1:19:26] recharging of the batteries means we stop and go. We have a lot of idle time.

[1:19:31] We don't ever hit that high roadway highway speed where you can really coast

[1:19:36] along and generate the battery, you know, battery recharge in there. So, it

[1:19:42] it's not a great use. It's it's sort of like the same thing with the diesel

[1:19:47] trucks with us. We never really get up to uh full operating speed like highway

[1:19:52] speeds for long duration for these um emissions controls to really clean out

[1:19:59] the filters and regenerate and do the things. It's just the nature of our

[1:20:03] driving that it isn't really suited for some of these things. If that

[1:20:07] » it's interest you say that just because I have a hybrid car that's two years old

[1:20:10] and I find that I do best when I'm idling and or going slow and stop I it

[1:20:16] charges more on braking than it does on actually when I go is when I get the

[1:20:19] when I go on highways I get the worst >> miles per gallon. So

[1:20:23] » and that's my that's the same experience for me.

[1:20:25] » Yeah. I haven't stop and go is when it's at its best.

[1:20:28] » Yeah. Yeah. What do you consider?

[1:20:33] » I will keep that mind in there because my experiences on my hybrid.

[1:20:37] » I still think we're gonna move forward through with the hybrids and I might be

[1:20:41] different, you know.

[1:20:44] » Yeah. >> Yeah. But I do think, you know, I'm fine

[1:20:46] moving forward now. But I really, you know, it's

[1:20:49] » each of these decisions that we make, >> right? Whenever there's an opportunity

[1:20:54] to make a decision that's better for the climate and potentially hopefully better

[1:20:59] for us long term, that's going to be where I'm going to want to want to move

[1:21:03] us. >> Maybe curious what other cities are

[1:21:04] doing if it's if they found on hybrid trucks something.

[1:21:07] » Yeah, I I I think there are certainly some opportunities in the fleet um for

[1:21:12] for some of these improvements. I don't know whether we're ready in the heavy

[1:21:17] trucks yet >> uh for those. I know in the emission

[1:21:21] side of it, like I said, with the diesel trucks that we went through with these

[1:21:25] almost zero emissions with these, it's called selective catalyst reduction. We

[1:21:29] went that route and it really was disastrous for us. Uh to the point that

[1:21:34] we're going back to to gasoline vehicles whenever we can because it's just the

[1:21:38] way we're operating the vehicles. >> So, um I'm I'm very hesitant about

[1:21:42] jumping into some of those. >> Sure. And I think technology will

[1:21:46] continue to improve and and things will be road tested elsewhere which will

[1:21:50] provide >> you know Patrick brought up a great

[1:21:52] point you know for full electric vehicles you know there is an

[1:21:56] opportunity here if we can get the charging infrastructure in you know I

[1:22:00] think that there is there is a use for that certainly our cold weather

[1:22:04] operations are a different you know use pattern with the batteries that's

[1:22:07] something to be wary of uh uh with those uh in our experiences even with our

[1:22:12] lighting and the other items that are electric, but there are some

[1:22:16] opportunities for uh for adding to the fleet in the electric.

[1:22:20] » That would be interesting as we redesign parks, buildings, and you know,

[1:22:23] maintenance areas is do we put an electric charger in and build down the

[1:22:26] budget or something in the future? Because we need the infrastructure

[1:22:28] before you can buy it because there's not a lot to

[1:22:30] » go in in parallel, right? You know, that's what you're looking at. You

[1:22:33] purchase the truck, but you have these associated costs, whether it's the

[1:22:36] logos, the lamps, or the charging, >> you know, in the garage and then the

[1:22:40] cable and then to do those. Um, as we've moved away from, you know, the trend has

[1:22:45] gone from full electric back to hybrid, we might see some more efficiencies in

[1:22:50] the design and the delivery of those trucks, you know, and vehicles having

[1:22:54] more options uh for hybrid. >> Yeah. And I don't know if the trucks

[1:22:57] have been focused as primary. It's more maybe more passenger type price, but

[1:23:01] good for >> something. So,

[1:23:03] » but I think maybe the question to our city manager would be for future vehicle

[1:23:08] requests if we can get a see what the difference in price. But we can

[1:23:11] certainly ask >> gas hybrid versus electric just so we

[1:23:14] have a better idea >> of what that looks like and we can talk

[1:23:18] about it. >> Yeah.

[1:23:20] » All right. >> Information is always helpful.

[1:23:22] » I'll ask if there's a motion. >> I'll make a motion to authorize the city

[1:23:26] manager to issue a purchase order to Joe Mockin Ford in an amount not to exceed

[1:23:32] $45,168. >> Second. All right. Will we please pull

[1:23:36] the council?

[1:23:43] Council member Draguel. >> Yes.

[1:23:44] » Council member Solomonov. >> Yes.

[1:23:46] » Council member Clark. >> Yes.

[1:23:48] » Council uh Chairman Prom Shan Halman. >> Yes.

[1:23:50] » Mayor Lewis. >> Yes.

[1:23:51] » Motion has passed. >> Where's Joe M? I don't know where that

[1:23:55] is. >> You're getting good business from us.

[1:23:57] So, >> all right. We'll move on. Item 15,

[1:23:59] authorization of an agreement for the park ops storage building.

[1:24:05] » Hello again. It's uh Patrick McGee, the assistant u parks and recreation

[1:24:10] director. Um for those of you that don't know, our parks department, you know, we

[1:24:15] do did get a new park ops building uh right around the same time that uh five

[1:24:20] oaks had opened. And that became a home for, you know, our trucks, a lot of

[1:24:25] equipment. And one thing that we realized really

[1:24:29] quickly is that we have a large lot over u right behind the former site at the uh

[1:24:34] old community center at 9723 Grand View. And we as we have started to really put

[1:24:43] everything away in that building. We realized that we still had a lot of

[1:24:48] highv value equipment, whether it be toolcat attachments, uh whether it be

[1:24:52] tractors that we were trying to squirrel away in other areas like our Stacy

[1:24:56] storage building, um as well as expensive um tools, you know, other

[1:25:03] machinery, uh mowers, uh tractors, things that we were trying to squeeze in

[1:25:07] a building that was very difficult for us to do. Um, we had really worked hard

[1:25:15] to find a solution to that. Um, to see if there was room at public works, you

[1:25:20] know, to see where we could put some of this equipment because, as you know,

[1:25:24] leaving anything, especially steel outside all year round. It's, you know,

[1:25:29] we're dealing with rust. We're dealing with things uh breaking, just kind of

[1:25:33] seizing up and not working when we need them most. And those are some of those

[1:25:38] attachments for our tool cap for instance are they just take up a lot of

[1:25:41] space. We have also kind of repurposed every single inch and I encourage

[1:25:46] anybody if they ever want to see our park ops building. It is probably one of

[1:25:50] the most organized places I've ever been. Uh we have outlines for tools and

[1:25:56] tool pegs uh pegboards everywhere for tools but we've repurposed that beyond

[1:26:01] its use. And we our horiculturist is growing plants on a shelf on the side of

[1:26:07] a garage bay on the side where his truck parks. And we're just trying to maximize

[1:26:11] our efficiency so that we can use that building and also keep the value of

[1:26:17] these tools that we have spent a lot of money on to to last as long as we need

[1:26:22] them to. And this building would just be a three-sided building. Um we worked

[1:26:27] with uh Gordian which is a SourceBall provider and SourceWell allows

[1:26:32] government nonprofits to buy prevetted products and services and they also help

[1:26:37] us find a contractor to do this without the uh doing our own independent bidding

[1:26:43] process because we would have had to do concrete. We'd have had to do all this

[1:26:46] piece by piece and as parks and recck people, not necessarily our strong suit

[1:26:50] to go out and build this uh you know storage structure for our tools. So we

[1:26:56] wanted to work with them. So Gordian set us up with a company uh construct

[1:27:01] construction company called Brown and Routt and they put together a plan which

[1:27:04] you'll see in your um submission here that goes through everything that we

[1:27:09] needed. Uh this building does have three bays and at the end of those bays there

[1:27:14] would be shelves for us to with our tool kats we

[1:27:18] can actually place things on those shelves inside of those bays. So whether

[1:27:22] it be a mowing attachment, a flail cutter, um a grapple, a grappler

[1:27:27] attachment, all these things that we use on a very frequent basis, we can

[1:27:31] actually put on those shelves. And this would get stuff out of the area to where

[1:27:36] you can actually work on projects inside the garage, which they currently cannot

[1:27:40] do. And then there would also be a external building, just an enclosed

[1:27:46] building with with one man door. That would be where all the horiculturist

[1:27:50] tools and supplies and things like that they need to keep under locking key

[1:27:56] which is things you know whether it be chemicals, herbicides, things like that.

[1:27:59] So it is does kind of create a safe haven for that stuff too. So, it is

[1:28:06] this was a long and thoughtout project that we've been I think working on for

[1:28:10] at least two years out of the three years I've been here. And I think it is

[1:28:14] a good direction for for the city and to extend the life of all of our equipment,

[1:28:19] tractors, and other things and to keep this stuff covered and out of the

[1:28:23] elements. So, >> happy to answer any questions that you

[1:28:28] might have. >> Questions from council? Is there a

[1:28:31] reason we wouldn't do just an enclosed building with garage doors?

[1:28:35] » Um, so we went through so many iterations of this building to see

[1:28:39] obviously we do have the enclosed building already. Um, this building was

[1:28:44] mainly just to keep stuff out of the elements and keep stuff off of the the

[1:28:47] parking lot and also to kind of bring some sense of organization to that

[1:28:51] space. it is, you know, a large lot and we knew that we had the building still

[1:28:56] for things that we really need to keep, you know, HVAC controlled, you know,

[1:29:00] things like that. So, that was um the reason the three-sided building is we're

[1:29:04] really just looking for >> something to cover and cost. Yeah, it'll

[1:29:08] have a roof. It'll be uh if you look at the last page, there's um kind of a

[1:29:14] » a an idea of what of what they're

[1:29:19] building. They're still working on, you know, before we enter this contract,

[1:29:22] they'll work up shop drawings and and actually kind of give us an idea of what

[1:29:26] this would look like on the space. >> And then, uh, brand new soccer goals

[1:29:30] that we bought last year, are they going to go are they in a different building?

[1:29:35] » Uh, you said the side by >> the soccer goals.

[1:29:38] » Oh, the soccer goals. Those will go in the backside of that behind the uh

[1:29:43] behind there. So, they will be covered. And our park staff did build a large

[1:29:47] rack um that we can actually slot those in cuz before when we had soccer goals,

[1:29:52] they would just get lane basically laid down in a pile

[1:29:55] » and you know, water would get inside of them and they would rust and our park

[1:29:59] staff did a great job of creating storage for those and um really making

[1:30:04] it easy to put them back together each year, too. So

[1:30:07] » cool. Okay, thanks. >> So the renderings, there's a page just

[1:30:11] before this one. are those the more active um or more accurate drawings that

[1:30:17] one where it >> so that's that's what it looks like um

[1:30:20] you know and we just kind of wanted to give you an idea of like a little closer

[1:30:24] up which would be in those bays and those are things that we we're not we

[1:30:27] don't we have a mowing contract for instance so our mowers don't need to be

[1:30:32] you know stuck in the shop where we have to you know kind of move around them

[1:30:36] just we have a lot of ingress and egress problems when we put all that equipment

[1:30:41] in there and you need get something to get it out. It's just um tough. We also

[1:30:45] designed that park ops building to have a wash bay and with Brian growing plants

[1:30:50] along that wall, we can't wash our trucks in there without, you know,

[1:30:54] damaging or doing anything to to his plants, too. So, we're trying to utilize

[1:30:58] the places the way it was meant to be and also kind of safeguard that stuff.

[1:31:02] » So, the fencing or gates that are in front of that that you anticipate those

[1:31:06] being part of each of the bays that there's some kind of barrier? So yeah, I

[1:31:11] think that that uh would would definitely be something that we would

[1:31:14] like to do to keep that stuff safe. That as you know that build or that lot is

[1:31:19] kind of accessible um if you just kind of

[1:31:22] » there isn't a fence or a gate >> there. There is

[1:31:25] » on the from the parking lot in is there >> there is our park staff built a gate for

[1:31:30] that but um there's also like if you're walking up the trail on the side of the

[1:31:35] baseball fields like you can sneak around there if you really need to. So,

[1:31:39] » so you do plan to have a gate with locks?

[1:31:42] » Yeah, we plan to to do that after the building gets done. We want to put some

[1:31:48] kind of a access area up there, but we do have a gate coming into the parking

[1:31:52] lot, but for this this was kind of our our iteration and if we have enough

[1:31:57] funds to do that, we definitely would like to put some kind of a closure on it

[1:32:00] to keep everything safe. >> Have there been any issues with theft

[1:32:03] with the equipment and items just kind of sitting on the parking lot? We have

[1:32:08] had, you know, I think one of the things when you put stuff in a pile, it gets a

[1:32:14] little tougher to realize when something's gone until you need it and

[1:32:17] then you're like, did it get, you know, misplaced? Was it broken? You know,

[1:32:21] there's things like that. Um, I'm sure anywhere where people are trying to

[1:32:25] scrap metal when all of that essentially is is metal that people could take for

[1:32:30] scrap. Um, you know, I don't think we've had a a huge problem of theft back

[1:32:36] there, but I know that, you know, that trucks have, you know, been gone through

[1:32:41] in that back lot or in the upper lot up there before, too. So, I think it's just

[1:32:45] something that we want to make sure we can protect it as as much as possible.

[1:32:49] » And then this will is, if I'm understanding the layout, will this sit

[1:32:54] perpendicular to like if this is the main storage shed that exists, will this

[1:32:59] sit perpendicular in the back of the lot? So, that's a great question. So,

[1:33:03] the original idea for us would be for it to be west of where the current one is.

[1:33:09] So, if you walked out the garage bay of the current park ops building, you would

[1:33:13] be looking at it. >> Now, if any of you have ever been on

[1:33:16] that lot, it does have a slight downhill slope. Then, it also slopes to a storm

[1:33:21] drain over on the right. One thing that we found through this

[1:33:25] long long process was that that increased the cost of concrete because

[1:33:29] then you have to deal with the downhill slope. You also have to have it slope to

[1:33:34] the drain still because that water that's going to run still has to get to

[1:33:37] that drain. And we are working with Brown and Route to possibly identify

[1:33:42] when you walk out the park ops building a space on the left which is still in

[1:33:47] the lot and would still be usable and it still has and it's a little flatter. So

[1:33:52] they are looking at at both of those options to find because what we wouldn't

[1:33:56] want to do is if we build it straight in front of the current park ops building

[1:34:00] and we're dealing with those slopes then putting [snorts] shelves in there become

[1:34:03] unstable. If you want to put a vehicle up on jacks to change a tire, you're

[1:34:08] doing so on a on a slight incline that you couldn't fix purely with concrete

[1:34:13] unless it was very expensive and a lot of foundational work for the uh for the

[1:34:17] floor of the building. So, >> so it sounds like the the actual

[1:34:21] location where this is going to go is still somewhat

[1:34:24] » it is we have a um site meeting with grounding route tomorrow and that we

[1:34:30] they have a full plan to build it on that current site west of the current

[1:34:33] building. Uh but one of the things that we're trying to realize is that that

[1:34:38] slope could present problems with shelving. It'll look,

[1:34:43] you know, but there will be a slope to the sidewalk or to the um the um

[1:34:49] concrete. Thank you. >> The concrete on the ground. And

[1:34:53] » I just I think that that would be difficult to put shelves up when you

[1:34:57] have even just a a slight, you know, decline. So, we just want to make sure

[1:35:02] that what we're putting up there is is safe to do. So

[1:35:06] » just kind of in lie of our most recent conversation seeing this lovely sloped

[1:35:11] roof and thinking is there a way it could be oriented so that that slope

[1:35:15] faces south for future potential solar panels.

[1:35:19] » Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but that location would make, you know, it have to be that I

[1:35:24] think that location would probably be pretty tricky because it's right at the

[1:35:27] entrance where people would be coming in from the main parking lot and

[1:35:31] potentially could hinder traffic flow and then it's closer to residential

[1:35:35] areas. So, I don't >> I know you're considering all the

[1:35:38] things. Um, the building seems important, necessary, and I'll just drop

[1:35:43] that little thing [laughter] to to add into the considerations as well.

[1:35:49] » Fair. And we have worked with uh you know sat

[1:35:52] down and talked with Carlos and and Bruce as well about about this project

[1:35:56] along the way and uh quite a few meetings about how we could do this. I

[1:36:00] mean for a three-sided building uh has had a lot of of thought put into it and

[1:36:05] our parks department is at the forefront of that. they've been a uh pushing the

[1:36:11] envelope for this because, you know, they do a lot of work and they're

[1:36:14] finally getting the tools to do those things and they really hate to see those

[1:36:18] tools be left outside to endure whatever St. Louis has to offer weatherwise. So,

[1:36:24] all right, other questions and if do I hear a motion, please? I'll

[1:36:30] make a motion to authorize the city manager to enter an agreement with

[1:36:34] Cordian and Brown and Route to complete services outlined in the work order at

[1:36:39] 9723 Grand View not to exceed 175,000. >> Second.

[1:36:44] » All right. May we please pull the council?

[1:36:46] » Council member Dal. >> Yes.

[1:36:47] » Council member Solomonov. >> Yes.

[1:36:49] » Council member Clark. >> Yes.

[1:36:50] » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman. >> Yes.

[1:36:52] » Mayor Lewis. >> Yes.

[1:36:53] » Motion is passed. >> Thank you very much. Thanks.

[1:36:56] » Thank you. >> We spent some money tonight. Look at

[1:36:59] that. All right, >> move on to item 16, hearing from

[1:37:04] citizens. Same conditions apply. Is there anyone in the audience who wishes

[1:37:08] to speak? All right. Anyone online, please raise

[1:37:13] your hand and signify that you wish to speak?

[1:37:20] Okay, we'll move on then. Uh, can we move on

[1:37:23] to item 17, review and acceptance of minutes. Does anyone have any

[1:37:26] corrections of the minutes? >> No. No. Can we please have a motion?

[1:37:33] » Like to make a motion to accept the minutes, the council minutes from August

[1:37:37] 25th, 2026 and a work session from September 12th, 2026 or 1st, sorry,

[1:37:43] September 1st. >> All right. Motion made. Second.

[1:37:46] » Second. Please call the council. >> Council member Juel.

[1:37:50] » Yes. >> Council member Solommanov.

[1:37:52] » Yes. >> Council member Clark.

[1:37:53] » Yes. >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

[1:37:55] » Yes. >> Mayor Lewis.

[1:37:56] » Yes. >> The motion is passed.

[1:37:58] All right, we'll move on to item 18, city attorney's report.

[1:38:02] » No report this evening, but we do have a close session pursuant to subsection one

[1:38:05] of 1621. >> All right, moving on to item 19 then for

[1:38:09] the closed session. Do I hear a motion to go into close session

[1:38:11] » and two? I'm sorry. Subsection one and two.

[1:38:14] » All right.

[1:38:18] Could somebody make a motion for >> make a motion to move into close session

[1:38:22] pursuant to the revised statutes of the state of Missouri to discuss legal,

[1:38:26] confidential, or privilege attorney client matters pursuant to section

[1:38:29] 610.0211, real estate matters pursuant to section

[1:38:34] 610.0212. >> Seconded.

[1:38:38] » You please pull the council. >> My choice. Uh, council member Tal.

[1:38:41] » Yes. >> Council member Solommanov.

[1:38:43] » Yes. >> Council member Clark.

[1:38:44] » Yes. >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

[1:38:46] » Yes. >> Mayor Lewis. Yes,

[1:38:49] » pursuing to that we will close this regular session and move into close

[1:38:52] session.

[1:39:02] » Uh we have exited close session and we are reopening the meeting. No major

[1:39:05] decisions were made at this point. I'll take a motion to adjurnn.

[1:39:08] » Motion to adjurnn. >> Second.

[1:39:10] » Second. All right. We're adjourned at 10:06 p.m. Good night, everyone.

September 8, 2026 City Council Meeting

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