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[0:06] um

[0:16] portal and parcel view

[0:18] mr whips

[0:44] all right

[0:46] cool awesome well thank you guys for

[0:48] having me um today

[0:49] what i'm gonna go over is um our open

[0:52] data portal which we launched last year

[0:55] um

[0:56] but given everything going on it kind of

[0:58] you know uh it was kind of one of those

[0:59] check marks that we did but what i

[1:01] really want to do is demonstrate what

[1:02] its purpose is and what its capability

[1:04] is and then i want to segue that into um

[1:08] one of the the new applications that

[1:10] we're working on to kind of replace some

[1:11] existing applications that we have

[1:14] related to gis and partials and whatnot

[1:16] so

[1:17] um

[1:18] really and i'll be

[1:20] going through this but um this this

[1:22] first open data portal that we have

[1:24] right here and this is the home page of

[1:27] it that i'm showing on the screen here

[1:28] and this

[1:29] is a link that's currently on our

[1:30] county's website

[1:32] that anybody can access and get to it's

[1:34] under the it section

[1:37] in

[1:38] segways into the gis section but

[1:40] basically it's just a link it's a

[1:41] website um and the great thing about

[1:43] this portal

[1:44] is that it takes all of our existing

[1:46] layers that we currently have on web

[1:48] logistics right now

[1:50] and it makes them available for download

[1:53] which is a really neat functionality

[1:56] that we have because i'll get a lot of

[1:57] requests from college students

[1:59] um within the area they're working on

[2:01] projects or just citizens who are you

[2:03] know curious about things and want to do

[2:05] their own analysis and whatnot um and

[2:08] play with address points and whatnot um

[2:10] you know pretty neat stuff but this is

[2:12] the home page of it um

[2:15] and it gives you a nice little blurb um

[2:17] about you know what it is and

[2:20] uh the data catalog and everything um

[2:23] and then as we scroll down through the

[2:24] applications we have these nice little

[2:26] um i call it buttons but they're really

[2:28] just categories and essentially we have

[2:31] i believe it's 54 or 56 layers that are

[2:33] currently on web logistics on that we

[2:35] make available and all those categories

[2:38] or all those layers have been broken

[2:39] into categories for folks to be able to

[2:41] go

[2:42] and look at the information the

[2:44] statistical um kind of attribution

[2:46] behind it so for instance if i wanted to

[2:50] you know just look at like zoning

[2:51] information or anything like that um

[2:54] i could click on that zoning button or i

[2:56] could search for something and it would

[2:58] take me um to in this case i clicked on

[3:01] the zoning button and it'll take me to

[3:03] all the layers that i that we have put

[3:05] under uh you know the zoning category so

[3:08] for instance if i just want to look at

[3:10] the actual zoning layer for the entire

[3:11] accounting um it gives me the option to

[3:14] click on that um and then actually view

[3:18] the data as it loads in

[3:20] um but the nice thing about it is i can

[3:22] you know besides viewing it from a

[3:23] spatial capacity um i can also view it

[3:27] from a tabular standpoint as well so

[3:28] really the attribution

[3:30] behind it that you know that you know

[3:32] that's really the important thing what

[3:34] makes you know gis later so valuable is

[3:36] you have the spatial component as well

[3:37] as the attribution behind it

[3:39] um is that associated with each parcel

[3:41] is that is that

[3:43] it is it is not it's just the blank

[3:46] zoning blanket that goes over it um okay

[3:49] but um

[3:51] the nice thing about it is is you know

[3:53] if you want to um this is dynamic enough

[3:55] to where um you can zoom in to a

[3:58] particular area

[3:59] and it's not symbolized it's not meant

[4:01] to be symbolized in this capacity it's

[4:03] just meant to show you know that hey

[4:05] there's some information here

[4:07] from a visual standpoint but it is

[4:09] dynamic and then i can click around

[4:12] and it'll give me you know particular

[4:13] areas and what their zone um in this

[4:15] case i clicked on the area that's you

[4:17] know zoned r2 um but the the nice thing

[4:21] about it and what people like about it

[4:22] is that i have the option to download

[4:24] this as a spreadsheet

[4:26] um so i can actually view the back end

[4:29] of it

[4:30] all the attribution signed into it

[4:33] which you know it'll have some nice

[4:35] information there

[4:37] and then it'll have

[4:39] the kml download which is a nice

[4:41] functionality because not everybody can

[4:42] afford high-end gis software but

[4:44] everybody can use google earth

[4:47] so you can download these and view these

[4:48] in google earth which is nice

[4:50] and then if you do have either custom

[4:52] gis software or

[4:55] open source gis software such as qgis

[4:57] you can download the actual shapefile

[4:59] which is you know what we use to do a

[5:00] lot of our analysis here in the county

[5:02] um

[5:03] so

[5:04] that's really the backbone in terms of

[5:07] the data repository side of the sofa

[5:10] data portal um and the nice thing about

[5:12] it is you know it's this is all tied

[5:15] into

[5:16] um basically an essential uh

[5:18] gis reader viewpoint so that it's tied

[5:21] to our you know main subset of data so

[5:24] anytime i go in or you know i go in and

[5:26] update the data um this will be

[5:28] automatic in terms of you know being up

[5:31] to date and folks not having to wonder

[5:33] well i don't know you know when this was

[5:34] last updated or things like that um so

[5:37] that's a very nice functionality that as

[5:39] well

[5:40] um

[5:41] and then

[5:42] the kind of the second um

[5:45] the second component of the open data

[5:47] portal itself how do you get into that

[5:49] first orange open data page you uh so

[5:53] there is a link on our county's website

[5:55] okay there

[5:57] and um

[6:00] and then um

[6:02] the second kind of component of the open

[6:03] data portal is that it also features um

[6:06] as a repository for

[6:08] all of our featured applications so

[6:11] in the past you know we've done

[6:13] the you know election polling places

[6:15] application which we've seen in the

[6:17] election results

[6:18] application which we saw from 2019 some

[6:21] of the broadband stuff

[6:23] you know was on here um web logistics is

[6:26] on here it's a nice

[6:28] place to go for

[6:29] uh folks and residents to say hey what

[6:31] kind of applications that are gis

[6:33] centric is the county really offering

[6:35] um and all kind of in nice one need

[6:37] place and gives a nice alert and you can

[6:39] actually um launch straight into some of

[6:42] these which is

[6:43] pretty cool so

[6:45] um it's a nice little historical one um

[6:48] pretty neat um but

[6:50] really um

[6:53] to follow up on these questions yeah i'm

[6:55] looking i'm looking at the the county

[6:57] website where where is the button

[6:59] so if you go to

[7:01] um go to the it section

[7:04] or the ip department

[7:06] okay so go under go to departments and

[7:08] then go to it

[7:11] and then there will be a sidebar that

[7:13] says gis information

[7:19] okay

[7:20] and then

[7:21] there'll be a link at the bottom of the

[7:23] gis information page that says something

[7:25] along the lines of click here to access

[7:27] joking data okay i went all the way to

[7:29] the ip page did i go too far

[7:31] i don't know okay i see it now i got it

[7:32] i got some i got it

[7:35] no worries um

[7:38] but really the goal of of the open data site is to

[7:42] showcase that gis just isn't a partial

[7:44] viewer and in this case it just isn't

[7:46] web logistics it also serves as

[7:49] a nice portal that has all of our layers

[7:52] um that we choose to make publicly

[7:54] available as well as all of our other

[7:56] applications the science level which is

[7:58] kind of one nice neat

[8:00] shop and

[8:02] it would seem to me that having to go to

[8:04] the i.t department and then down through

[8:06] the ite department if we're going to

[8:08] make this visible to everybody that

[8:10] would be

[8:11] something right on the front page

[8:14] so um

[8:15] and in line with that i think with a

[8:17] little transition into

[8:18] my next uh application but i would

[8:21] really like for um kind of somewhere now

[8:24] how we have a button on the front page

[8:25] that says you know click here to access

[8:27] gis i'd almost really like to have that

[8:30] button or another button that says click

[8:31] here to access gis and take you to this

[8:33] page

[8:34] and then from there you you pick what

[8:36] application you want that would work

[8:38] that's really what i've envisioned this

[8:41] kind of serving as

[8:43] instead of going to the web logistics

[8:45] page correct

[8:47] how would you get to the web logistics

[8:49] we would have um and this page is

[8:52] completely customizable so if we wanted

[8:53] to we could have like a blurb or a

[8:55] button here that says you know click

[8:57] here to access web logistics or

[9:00] in this case how it's set up um i at the

[9:03] very bottom of this page i have you know

[9:04] featured application

[9:06] and you click here to click one

[9:07] logistics here

[9:10] so we can play around with that but

[9:12] ideally that's kind of what i would like

[9:15] to happen just so we can kind of maybe

[9:16] change the narrative that jazz just just

[9:20] is what logistics but it's not all it is

[9:22] it's a small component of it

[9:26] so that's that's really what the open

[9:27] data portal is um

[9:29] and then transitioning

[9:31] um to

[9:33] the partial viewer um this partial gear

[9:35] that i'm going to show you today

[9:37] is essentially um what would

[9:40] in my mind kind of

[9:42] take the place of

[9:45] what we currently use as web logistics

[9:49] yes sir

[9:50] what is the difference between

[9:53] lake of the wade woods maine dam

[9:55] innovation center

[9:57] and veterans damn

[9:59] immigration

[10:03] that's why i'm asking they're one of the

[10:05] same but they show

[10:09] they actually show two different things

[10:12] they show two different things um

[10:15] i was probably something i need to check

[10:17] on in terms of you know planning from

[10:19] planning standpoint but they are two

[10:21] different data sets the terminologies

[10:23] might need to be reworked on that

[10:25] absolutely they are the same they are

[10:27] the same and that's why i have a number

[10:28] of years ago they named the thing the

[10:31] veteran stand and i'm not sure that's

[10:33] gotten into the states

[10:35] listing them yet or not but it's called

[10:38] the veterans day but they're found two

[10:39] different

[10:42] data sets in the same

[10:45] and that could damn

[10:45] a case of two where one is from next

[10:48] year the others you know the following

[10:49] year yeah and we'll think about which

[10:51] one is right right right you can get rid

[10:53] of the other one right

[10:54] yeah we can certainly do that and that's

[10:57] part of you know

[10:58] okay i'm sorry i didn't know what i'm

[11:00] saying but that knows we just need to

[11:02] stay awake

[11:04] that's right damn things just you know

[11:07] uh no you're completely fine um so this

[11:09] partial view that i'm going to show you

[11:10] is actually something that we have

[11:12] created in-house um completely using our

[11:14] esri enterprise licensing um which is

[11:18] super awesome in my opinion but

[11:20] basically this is this is imagine this

[11:22] is web logistics it does all the same

[11:24] stuff it just looks stylistically

[11:26] different um so and

[11:29] we're completely you know

[11:31] dependent on just only ourselves which

[11:33] is the nice thing so if we want to do

[11:34] any queries or changes or anything like

[11:36] that it's we all do it in-house and it's

[11:39] pretty nice so

[11:40] um to start off you know we could have

[11:42] our nice little brother here that has

[11:43] whatever kind of disclaimers or

[11:45] information that we want um and you have

[11:47] to agree to it um

[11:49] and then it you know it's gonna save you

[11:51] all the county which kind of similar to

[11:53] how web logistics is now but in this

[11:56] case um the nice thing about this is

[11:58] that when you run

[12:00] a search

[12:01] um i have it configured so that it not

[12:04] only searches the address or not only

[12:06] searches the partials but it'll search

[12:08] the address points as well if you choose

[12:09] it see which is the nice thing

[12:11] absolutely what you're saying is the

[12:12] search actual word correct

[12:15] so

[12:16] and it's and you know it's just to each

[12:18] their own in terms of you know what is

[12:20] actually configurable what not and what

[12:22] your style is but in this case let's

[12:24] just say you know i'm searching for

[12:26] um

[12:27] let's i'll just use the public safety

[12:29] parcel because i have it written down

[12:30] but so when i've typed in the first of

[12:33] the address numbers here we can see that

[12:35] it's queried out

[12:36] it's searching against the address point

[12:38] as well as the partial address and i

[12:40] bring that up because a lot of times

[12:42] we'll get some folks calling if you get

[12:43] frustrated because well you know i live

[12:45] at so and so address and it's an

[12:47] apartment but when i search my apartment

[12:48] number it doesn't come up well the

[12:50] reason it doesn't come up is because the

[12:51] search functionality web logistics runs

[12:53] against the parcel and not the actual

[12:55] address point so unless you own that

[12:57] partial you know you're gonna be you're

[13:00] gonna have difficult time maneuvering

[13:01] that which is frustrating for citizens

[13:03] so

[13:04] but in this case we can see as i've

[13:05] typed in i've got my average point

[13:07] coming up and my partial address coming

[13:08] up so at this point i'll just click on

[13:09] the partial um

[13:12] and it will take me right to it so so if

[13:14] somebody's in an apartment they can type

[13:16] that and where

[13:18] we've got their address and that address

[13:20] is related to the parcel number

[13:23] so

[13:24] it's not like the existing gis or if you

[13:27] don't have a if you don't own the parcel

[13:29] you don't uh you don't come up correctly

[13:31] by tying it to uh to another database

[13:33] that has everybody's name and address in

[13:36] the cabinet correct yes sir i've got an

[13:37] example i'll show that all right okay

[13:40] but the the the nice thing about it is

[13:42] that um

[13:43] you know and so

[13:45] here we are we've got the public safety

[13:47] parcel it's taken me here and then we've

[13:49] got this nice little sidebar that's come

[13:50] up that's basically the same thing

[13:52] that's on web logistics it's just you

[13:54] know configured a little bit differently

[13:56] that has our information and the

[13:58] important thing which all the citizens

[14:00] want to see is the property card so if i

[14:01] hit the more info link it'll take me to

[14:04] concise and show me the official

[14:05] property card which is what people want

[14:07] to see

[14:08] um

[14:09] so that's

[14:11] no new information on the property cards

[14:13] as we exist as they exist today correct

[14:16] yeah and

[14:17] all the information that you see in the

[14:19] parcels is pulled directly from

[14:21] concise camera the property part itself

[14:23] so

[14:23] we have a query on the back end that'll

[14:25] actually update it every week so

[14:28] all the information that you see is

[14:29] pulled from the commissioner's revenue's

[14:30] office um really

[14:33] gis and what

[14:35] our department does is just you know we

[14:37] update the record number which will sync

[14:39] with all the information and we update

[14:41] partial geometry oh that's the

[14:44] key there but um to go back uh to your

[14:47] point uh mr frame about if i have you

[14:50] know let's say i'm a business um but i

[14:52] don't want the parcel

[14:54] um

[14:54] but i have my address in this case i'm

[14:56] going to search for

[14:58] 32303 constitution highway um

[15:01] and we can see i've got an average point

[15:03] coming up but not a parcel so currently

[15:06] whether this is in web logistics if i

[15:08] went and searched for this now

[15:10] it wouldn't come up because it's it's it in in that system's mind it

[15:16] doesn't exist because it's not a record

[15:18] partial but it is a record and an

[15:20] average point which is why it shows up

[15:21] here and we have this configured so that

[15:23] it searches against the partial and the

[15:26] address point which again apartments

[15:29] what not it it helps people out so

[15:32] and then we can see here i'll cut

[15:36] the building off

[15:38] and we can see here it this was the

[15:40] returning result here just a point um

[15:43] but

[15:45] ideally you know there's there's no

[15:46] reason why we can't

[15:48] push this out um i'll back up a little

[15:50] bit so we can see it um there's no

[15:52] reason now why we can't push out a

[15:54] product like this in-house versus

[15:56] everything that you see on web logistics

[15:58] we currently maintain it's just

[16:01] we're using that interface as the medium

[16:04] to show it

[16:05] and this is

[16:06] you know an application that we can push

[16:08] up and maintain relatively quickly it'll

[16:10] do all the same functionality in terms

[16:11] of displaying a legend

[16:14] letting you print

[16:15] a pdf giving you measuring capabilities

[16:19] doing that markup and everything like

[16:21] that so if we want somebody to go in there

[16:25] we don't necessarily want them to go

[16:27] into gis we want them to go into this

[16:29] system

[16:30] because of the greater flexibility and

[16:33] the less likely to be frustrated

[16:38] um and i have this this isn't publicly

[16:40] available this application is not um but

[16:43] there's no reason why it can't be

[16:44] because it's all the same layers that

[16:45] we're already using now it's just more

[16:47] kind of the

[16:48] hey this is what we're doing this is

[16:49] where we would like to go phase

[16:53] so but yeah those are

[16:55] i think

[16:56] you kind of summed it up perfectly mr

[16:58] frame and an ideal world i would like to

[16:59] have the button or what happened on the front

[17:04] page of the website take you to the open

[17:06] data portal and then from there have

[17:09] that have like a featured thing at the

[17:11] top of the open dashboard will take you

[17:12] to this course well i mean as soon as

[17:14] people understand what that is where

[17:16] they would go

[17:17] they'd be far more likely to

[17:19] be comfortable with it especially

[17:22] if you can avoid the frustrations certainly so that

[17:27] would be something that

[17:29] i would like to happen as we transition

[17:31] because you hear something if i enter my

[17:32] name and i don't enter it exactly the

[17:34] way it is if i don't enter a fact that

[17:35] it's a part of a trust

[17:37] yeah

[17:38] it says nothing yeah no record which

[17:41] you'll still have some of that but with

[17:43] the added searches you might be able to

[17:45] alleviate some of that where hey this is

[17:46] my address point as long as that address

[17:48] point is in our system it'll it'll be

[17:50] certified

[17:52] so ideally to wrap up um i would like to

[17:55] transition into that you know hopefully

[17:57] summer mid summer and then buy by

[17:59] september kind of must be doing that

[18:03] but yeah that's fine

[18:04] your parcels

[18:06] are contingent

[18:08] upon what the commissioner's office

[18:10] inputs

[18:12] yes sir

[18:16] is there any way

[18:19] i guess not if it's continued

[18:22] yeah because it's all the billing and

[18:23] tax information

[18:26] so yeah how it works now is you really want him to be at least the

[18:30] same even if if the commissioner's

[18:32] office has got some delays or things

[18:34] like that well i don't even necessarily

[18:36] delays i know on a lot of parcels

[18:39] for tax purposes they say that there's

[18:41] nothing there no

[18:43] right

[18:46] would you be able to address that well

[18:48] that's some

[18:50] it's

[18:51] yes and now some of working with them is

[18:54] something you could address yeah it's

[18:56] and

[18:56] we have it's just kind of that legacy

[18:58] information that you kind of have to do

[19:00] a little record digging and kind of

[19:02] determine why it is what it is and then

[19:04] make a decision on it um but yeah we

[19:08] have been trying to address that and

[19:09] certainly moving forward i think you

[19:11] know it's a big priority um because i

[19:13] think

[19:14] technically right now we have over 22

[19:16] 000 partials i think there's

[19:18] around maybe 170 um that are just part

[19:23] of like some legacy kind of you know you

[19:25] have to do a little bit of fact that you

[19:27] do fact checking in

[19:29] all out because it's not a record in

[19:31] place because it's tied to you know

[19:33] something so

[19:35] and that's something that we're working

[19:36] on and obviously need to clean up as of

[19:38] before but the nice thing about

[19:40] this is you know i get a lot of calls

[19:42] saying hey can you help me with this

[19:44] you know that's a big part of cleaning

[19:45] up stuff too just people let us know

[19:47] so if you get you get very many calls or

[19:50] people saying that i can't find or i've

[19:52] got problems with no um i mean every once in a while it's

[19:56] more hey this is my first time logging

[19:58] on can you help me and i'll walk through

[20:00] people with that but nothing

[20:02] very rare i'll get somebody who can't

[20:05] find something

[20:06] um but you know we could do it

[20:08] but if that's not my main call

[20:10] i'll say that i was gonna say most of

[20:12] those calls probably go to the

[20:13] commissioner's office correct

[20:15] so yeah he doesn't

[20:18] he can avoid that he gets them filtered

[20:20] now yeah and usually they're like hey

[20:22] like this partial is wrong we just made

[20:24] the update and then they'll have me

[20:25] basically refresh the connection between

[20:27] gis and camera which will update the

[20:29] partials and then the tabular

[20:31] information will be correct which is

[20:32] what people you know want to see

[20:34] and ultimately

[20:36] this will tie in with the

[20:39] books and everything in the courthouse

[20:41] if in fact those records are correct yes sir okay

[20:46] yeah that would be interesting yeah i

[20:47] was going to ask a question about that

[20:49] if i let's say

[20:50] a new survey is done

[20:54] it seems to me that at some point in

[20:56] time it would

[20:58] be beneficial to have

[21:00] these data capture that new survey

[21:03] information i mean it's public record

[21:05] it's recorded in the area right uh

[21:08] and i'm not quite sure what that

[21:10] mechanic

[21:12] the mechanics of that need to look like

[21:13] right

[21:15] is the is the stuff that the courthouse

[21:17] sufficiently

[21:19] automated that uh you can make an

[21:21] interface

[21:22] with support depending on the parcel

[21:24] it's searchable now back to about 1983

[21:36] it's a little bit

[21:37] heavier of a lift just because it kind

[21:39] of you start getting to the point of

[21:40] okay well we have to store all these

[21:41] electronically and have storage space

[21:43] for tie-in which is a whole another

[21:46] one

[21:48] oh yeah absolutely and unfortunately

[21:50] there's some things that are just

[21:52] once again but if we wanted to get like

[21:54] a one-stop shopping center kind of thing

[21:58] yeah i certainly wouldn't be opposed to

[22:00] that

[22:01] i love it so

[22:03] it's a powerful tool

[22:04] yeah

[22:05] yes sir

[22:10] thank you guys for your time the other

[22:11] questions

[22:14] fantastic i'll make a comment we we

[22:16] certainly appreciate your your help in

[22:20] serving some of our the initiatives that

[22:22] we have throughout the county

[22:25] as you know we rely heavily on uh

[22:28] you're addressing capability and

[22:31] she probably knows the streets and the

[22:33] uh yes households and these kind of

[22:35] things

[22:36] in the county better than almost anyone

[22:38] else

[22:47] it's my pleasure thank you very much

[22:54] the next educational session

[23:00] i'm not sure how much education you're

[23:01] going to do

[23:03] but uh the civic clerk board

[23:07] sure i'll do my best

[23:09] um

[23:11] members of the board

[23:13] i've briefly introduced you

[23:15] um by email to

[23:17] civic clerk's board portal

[23:20] um and for those that

[23:22] are in the audience or on youtube that don't know um civic clerk is

[23:28] the name of our agenda management

[23:30] platform that we are

[23:32] working on launching um

[23:35] internally and it will

[23:38] eventually be

[23:39] our out facing platform on the website

[23:42] for

[23:44] the public to access

[23:46] board of supervisors meeting material

[23:49] and we're working on getting the

[23:51] planning commission

[23:52] on board as well

[23:54] so a location for the public to access

[23:57] all of our meeting materials but

[24:00] each of you has a secure login

[24:04] to access civic clerk's board portal

[24:08] and so

[24:09] when you enter your

[24:11] login information

[24:13] the screen that's in front of you right

[24:16] now

[24:17] is your agenda

[24:19] landing page

[24:20] so when you log in this is what you

[24:23] would first see on your screen

[24:26] um

[24:27] it currently has the april 27th agendas

[24:32] and the may 11th agendas on there as

[24:34] those are the only two that we've

[24:36] published to date um however

[24:40] as we continue

[24:41] using the civic clerk platform

[24:45] it will build a history of agendas here

[24:47] on the screen

[24:49] would you attempt to take any of these

[24:51] stuff

[24:52] no

[24:55] the reason is because i go to the website and i go look at the

[25:00] agendas

[25:02] uh for

[25:03] last year because i have something i

[25:05] kind of figure and i click on it and

[25:06] i'll get the thing

[25:08] and when i go and click on the specific

[25:10] item it takes me right back to the front

[25:12] page and i don't get to see whatever

[25:14] that item was you will get to continue

[25:16] to enjoy that yes

[25:18] things don't work you know

[25:21] modern web browsers

[25:25] with this system

[25:26] you have one picture of

[25:28] that's not what mine looks like when it

[25:30] comes up it's not what yours looks like

[25:32] no it has all the same information it's

[25:34] in a different configuration

[25:36] is that

[25:38] it's four

[25:40] down

[25:41] okay is that just a

[25:43] it's auto scaling for the screen okay that's fine yes but do you still

[25:50] have rectangles or squares like you can

[25:52] they're just laid out a little bit

[25:53] differently

[25:56] okay

[25:57] i just wanted to make sure that

[25:59] i was doing things correctly

[26:01] i think so okay um

[26:05] i mean i can get on all this stuff it's

[26:06] not not a problem i

[26:08] just

[26:10] okay beers just looks a little bit

[26:12] differently has anyone else logged on

[26:14] yet yeah i said

[26:16] you see the changing specific piece

[26:18] today and

[26:19] was able to

[26:21] pull it off of this good and it could be

[26:24] pc versus ipad

[26:27] viewing difference um

[26:29] that's fine okay

[26:33] so you should land at this screen and

[26:37] mr frame i before i answered so quickly

[26:40] um

[26:41] i thought your question was are we going

[26:43] to take back anything

[26:45] because i know you were you know there's

[26:47] a desire to have the history

[26:49] um

[26:50] you know but we can work on building out

[26:52] more history on the on the public

[26:54] platform i'm not sure i want everybody

[26:56] to spend a lot of time doing this just

[26:58] so i can find an item that was two years

[27:00] ago uh but uh

[27:03] and

[27:04] actually uh

[27:07] i've got a laptop that does do it but i

[27:09] normally keep that laptop put away

[27:12] and i have to break that out if i want

[27:13] to go find a particular piece

[27:16] well and one thing that i previously

[27:19] shared was

[27:21] um

[27:22] the agenda center which is civic plus

[27:25] terminology that we use for you all to

[27:27] access your agenda or the public to

[27:29] access the agenda now

[27:32] works best in internet explorer and as

[27:35] we know that is an outdated browser

[27:39] um one of the nice things about this new

[27:41] technology is that it is supported in

[27:44] chrome and edge which are the updated browsers so

[27:50] um

[27:50] but the other browsers can't get in

[27:52] through the agenda on the website then

[27:55] because the links the way that we

[27:57] currently link the board's agenda it

[28:00] won't work in anything other than

[28:03] internet explorer

[28:05] so

[28:06] yes but

[28:09] you'll you'll get to this landing page

[28:11] um and right now you'll see the the work

[28:14] session and regular meetings for

[28:17] april 27th and may 11th but it will

[28:19] build out as we publish

[28:22] more meetings

[28:23] so i want to go over there are three

[28:27] ways

[28:28] that you can view your agenda and your

[28:32] meeting your associated meeting

[28:34] materials

[28:36] um

[28:37] the first of which

[28:40] is directly in the board portal so

[28:43] i'm going to use tonight's regular

[28:46] meeting as our example

[28:48] so you would click on

[28:50] the item for the regular meeting for may

[28:52] 11th

[28:54] and this is the first way to view your

[28:57] agenda and again it's directly in

[29:00] the board portal and

[29:04] just to distinguish between the board

[29:06] portal and public portal as members of

[29:08] the board you have a secure

[29:11] login where you can access the

[29:13] information if we chose to share

[29:16] confidential attachments for closed

[29:18] meeting only you would have access to

[29:20] them

[29:21] and you can also annotate your agendas

[29:24] and take notes to help you

[29:26] remember hey i need to ask this question

[29:28] at the meeting or remind me to bring

[29:31] this up at the meeting

[29:33] but the public will see

[29:36] the the meeting materials the way that

[29:38] you see them here too

[29:42] so

[29:44] the first way to view it is by clicking

[29:46] on that tile and you will see the

[29:48] outline of tonight's agenda

[29:51] with all of the individual agenda items

[29:55] if you

[29:56] for example want to look at the public

[29:59] hearing

[30:00] for this evening which is our

[30:04] suv 2101 piedmont processing

[30:08] you would simply scroll to that agenda

[30:10] item

[30:13] click on that agenda item using the

[30:15] cursor

[30:16] and

[30:18] you can see all of the attachments

[30:21] associated with that agenda item

[30:24] one thing you've probably noticed over

[30:27] the last two months

[30:29] is that we've implemented a new

[30:32] format for cover memos

[30:36] so we have a template for just a

[30:38] standard cover memo

[30:40] and then we have a template for agenda

[30:43] item reports

[30:44] that have a background discussion

[30:48] financial impact and recommendation

[30:50] header

[30:51] as a means of concisely presenting

[30:55] information to the board for all agenda

[30:57] items

[30:58] um

[31:00] so

[31:01] your agenda item attachments will start

[31:03] out with that cover and then it will

[31:05] have all of the attachments listed in

[31:07] order following that cover memo

[31:10] so by clicking on

[31:12] the agenda item on that initial outline

[31:15] you can see

[31:17] all of the attachments

[31:20] we did choose to

[31:24] upload the attachments as individual

[31:26] items

[31:27] instead of one large

[31:31] pdf file

[31:32] that way if you want to quickly look at

[31:35] one item you can

[31:37] discern you know what you're looking at

[31:39] without having to scroll through

[31:41] a 35-page pdf

[31:45] as an example

[31:47] on the public hearing if you wanted to

[31:49] quickly look at the application

[31:52] materials it's one click to get you

[31:54] directly to the application materials

[31:56] versus scrolling through all of the

[31:58] pages that appear before that so

[32:01] by clicking on attachment application

[32:03] materials it will pull that up on your

[32:06] screen

[32:07] and um you can see the pdf there

[32:10] just our our cover sheet and then all of

[32:13] the

[32:14] application materials will follow that

[32:17] and then a quick

[32:19] click on the back button will take you

[32:21] back to

[32:22] the landing page for that agenda item

[32:25] um and then if you use the blue button

[32:29] in the upper

[32:30] uh left hand corner

[32:32] that will take you from the single

[32:35] agenda item

[32:37] back to the entire agenda outline so

[32:39] that you can

[32:41] either browse to the next agenda item or

[32:44] go back and look at something else

[32:46] specific so

[32:48] this is

[32:49] the first way for you to access and look

[32:52] at your agenda

[32:55] um

[32:56] before i move to the second

[32:58] way i want to highlight um

[33:01] the notes functionality um so just

[33:05] going back to that public hearing that

[33:07] we had just looked at when you get to

[33:09] that individual item

[33:11] page and you see your attachments on the

[33:13] left

[33:15] when you scroll down you will see a note

[33:18] section

[33:20] so

[33:22] if for example

[33:24] um there's a condition on the proposed

[33:27] ordinance that i know one of the

[33:29] conditions on this is

[33:31] um

[33:32] you know there will be

[33:34] no more than 25 animals slaughtered per

[33:36] week you know if you are reviewing your

[33:39] agenda materials and that triggers a

[33:41] question for you you can go down to the

[33:44] note screen and type um you know how

[33:48] was

[33:49] the number of animals determined

[33:55] is that information you put in there

[33:57] flyable

[34:00] um

[34:02] i will have to defer to

[34:04] the county attorney

[34:06] i think there's an exemption for working

[34:09] papers

[34:10] um

[34:12] just serious because if i put it down

[34:15] here and then i shred the thing when i'm

[34:16] done

[34:18] right i i think there's an exemption for

[34:20] working papers

[34:21] um

[34:22] in the code of virginia

[34:25] um but i will absolutely check with tom

[34:27] and share that information with you so

[34:30] that you know how to handle

[34:32] um

[34:33] no can any other uh board member get up

[34:36] an individual's notes no sir

[34:38] not from the login i i do need to get

[34:41] the foia question answered for you okay

[34:43] um

[34:46] and i'll share tom's response but when

[34:48] you are logged in

[34:50] um those are notes under your login and

[34:53] they wouldn't be shared with any other

[34:55] user okay

[34:57] um so

[34:59] i have a question i'm reviewing my

[35:01] materials and i want to know about the

[35:02] number of animals so i go to notes i

[35:05] typed it it saves automatically

[35:08] um

[35:09] so now during the meeting

[35:12] when i am

[35:14] review are following along with the

[35:16] meeting materials and we get to the

[35:18] public hearing this evening

[35:20] and i click on it i can see my note down

[35:23] there

[35:24] and it's you know a place for you to

[35:27] um

[35:28] keep all of your

[35:29] notes and thoughts and questions as

[35:31] you're as you're doing your packet

[35:32] review

[35:34] um

[35:36] so does anyone have

[35:39] any question about

[35:40] this particular format once i start

[35:42] building up a database of this

[35:45] is it going to be searchable

[35:47] it is

[35:48] yes so if i said somewhere

[35:50] six months ago we had

[35:52] a item on a particular special use or a

[35:56] particular decision we made

[35:58] so i'd be able to go and search and find

[36:00] that

[36:01] um

[36:05] i believe in the minutes once we start

[36:08] uploading them

[36:10] the minutes are going to be easier

[36:12] to search

[36:14] and find that terminology and then you

[36:16] would be able to go to the corresponding

[36:18] agenda okay um

[36:21] versus doing a search in the

[36:25] all of the specifics of the uh

[36:28] of the agenda all the specific pages of

[36:30] the agenda right

[36:31] okay

[36:33] all right that doesn't work

[36:37] um let me look into that a little bit

[36:39] further before you go

[36:42] um so that's that's method one

[36:45] um

[36:48] the second way is

[36:51] from the landing page selecting the

[36:53] agenda that you want to look at again

[36:54] it's tonight's

[36:56] regular meeting agenda

[36:58] and at the top

[37:01] you'll see a link that says agenda

[37:05] when you click that it will simply take

[37:08] you to

[37:09] the one or two page agenda for tonight's

[37:12] meeting

[37:13] so that you have just an overview of

[37:17] what's on the evening's agenda and then

[37:20] the second meeting or the sorry the

[37:22] second button here is for packet

[37:25] so if you click on packet

[37:28] it will take you to a view that you know might be more familiar with

[37:34] um

[37:35] and it's just a solid

[37:38] um pdf document

[37:40] with the agenda as the front page

[37:43] and all of the agenda item materials in

[37:47] order

[37:48] but you don't have a a link on the

[37:50] agenda page for this version no sir not

[37:53] on this version

[37:54] and you also cannot click on your

[37:57] attachments individually

[38:00] it's

[38:01] just as if you were receiving yes a

[38:03] stack of paper

[38:05] they are um the agenda is on top and all

[38:08] of the agenda item materials are in

[38:10] order behind it

[38:11] if this is the functionality

[38:13] that you like you can view it from this

[38:16] screen

[38:17] and in the upper left corner there is

[38:21] a search button

[38:24] you can click search and it will look

[38:27] through the entire document for you for

[38:30] a term

[38:31] and

[38:32] if you

[38:33] click when i'm looking just at this

[38:35] particular

[38:36] meeting yes sir just at this particular

[38:38] meeting

[38:40] and

[38:40] next to the search button is an annotate

[38:43] button

[38:44] and this might be a little bit easier on

[38:47] um you know an ipad or something a touch

[38:50] screen

[38:51] um but there are some drawing tools

[38:52] where you can draw arrows lines shapes

[38:55] you can freehand you can write on the

[38:59] pdf you can highlight text

[39:02] um and

[39:04] the annotations that you

[39:06] make when this

[39:08] um

[39:09] on this file will stay there when you

[39:12] bring it back up you can do that with

[39:13] the first method too

[39:17] um

[39:18] with the first method i don't think you

[39:20] have the annotate button

[39:23] um

[39:28] no you're right you do yes sir

[39:31] um so when you click on the individual

[39:32] pdf

[39:34] the same functionality is there you have

[39:36] the search feature

[39:38] and you have annotate so if you didn't

[39:40] want to use the notes field at the

[39:42] bottom and you click on that attachment

[39:44] you can annotate directly

[39:47] on on that screen as well

[39:49] different culture shapes arrows lines

[39:54] highlight freehand

[39:57] um there's a number of different ways

[39:59] that you can mark up the agenda packet

[40:01] there

[40:03] um so that's the second way by clicking

[40:05] on the packet button

[40:06] and

[40:07] again it's just like getting one stack

[40:09] of paper

[40:10] it's all there in order you can flip

[40:12] through it

[40:13] search annotate

[40:15] um

[40:17] the third way

[40:20] is from this same screen

[40:23] but over in the upper

[40:25] right hand corner there's a download

[40:27] button

[40:29] which is an arrow pointing down

[40:32] and if you click that

[40:35] you want to download it as the original

[40:37] document

[40:41] and

[40:42] click download

[40:43] i i want to know

[40:45] if you have made annotations on there

[40:49] and you check this box

[40:52] anything that you've

[40:53] written or any freehand any highlights

[40:56] any markups that you've made will also

[40:59] download into your pdf if you want it as

[41:02] a clean packet without your notes you

[41:04] can uncheck the box

[41:07] so you hit the download button

[41:13] and it's

[41:16] creating the file for you

[41:19] and just like

[41:21] you would download any other file it's

[41:23] going to show up in your download bar at

[41:25] the bottom it may be different on an

[41:27] ipad

[41:28] um

[41:29] than the view that you have here on pc

[41:31] but when it finishes downloading it will

[41:33] be available for you

[41:36] and when you click and open

[41:39] i want to open it as a pdf

[41:50] instead of in the web browser so i'm

[41:52] gonna

[41:52] [Music]

[41:59] okay so if you open it in

[42:02] adobe

[42:06] you will have

[42:07] what is similar to the view that you

[42:09] just looked at

[42:12] except

[42:14] when you download the file

[42:24] well

[42:24] i'm sorry this is just reader so i don't

[42:26] it's not having all of my um

[42:31] all of my bookmarks on here

[42:33] unless i'm just overlooking it

[42:40] this is something we can play with

[42:42] correct

[42:45] um

[42:47] are you all familiar with bookmarks in a

[42:50] pdf

[42:51] document

[42:59] um

[43:07] i don't know where bookmarks are on here

[43:09] so that's not not doing me

[43:12] my practice from my computer earlier

[43:14] well i can practice on what we currently

[43:17] have and it's not going to hurt a thing

[43:19] right absolutely it's nothing that you

[43:22] can't breathe

[43:23] nothing that you do in your login is is

[43:26] going to mess anything up but i did want

[43:28] to highlight

[43:29] if you choose the download

[43:31] functionality

[43:33] every single agenda item has its own

[43:36] bookmark so even though you do not have

[43:39] the hyperlinks from the home page from

[43:41] the agenda that you are used to

[43:44] if you bring up the bookmarks tab on the

[43:47] left hand side of the screen it has an

[43:50] outline of the agenda and every agenda

[43:53] item has its own bookmark and each of

[43:56] the attachments

[43:57] associated with that agenda item have

[44:00] their own bookmark so you can easily

[44:03] navigate through the agenda

[44:06] um by using those bookmarks without

[44:08] having to

[44:09] scroll all the way back to the the

[44:11] beginning see where you are on the

[44:13] agenda

[44:14] um it does have in in the bookmarks

[44:17] an outline of the agenda and you can

[44:20] browse through it that way um

[44:23] and then if you have um

[44:26] any any of the features that you have in

[44:28] your adobe this is adobe reader so it's very basic um

[44:34] you probably have a more

[44:37] advanced version on either your laptop

[44:40] or

[44:40] um a pdf viewer that you have on your

[44:43] ipad but any of those functionalities

[44:46] in your pdf um

[44:50] viewer you would be able to use for the

[44:52] downloaded version

[44:55] um

[44:56] so maybe not

[44:58] all of the annotations and the note

[45:00] keeping from the first two versions

[45:03] but if this is something that you're

[45:04] more familiar with or more comfortable

[45:06] with you can download it and use the

[45:08] bookmarks to to follow through the

[45:11] agenda

[45:14] and you don't have to have

[45:17] connectivity

[45:18] correct

[45:20] on your laptop or device even without

[45:22] the wi-fi working correct

[45:25] and if you went through um

[45:28] and did all of your annotations

[45:30] and highlighted what you wanted um and

[45:33] connectivity is an issue then you can

[45:35] download that file with all of your

[45:38] markups on it and bring it up in

[45:41] the board meeting without um

[45:44] without having any any worries for your

[45:47] uh wi-fi connection you're still really

[45:50] trying to push me away from my paper

[45:51] aren't you know

[45:55] flexibility

[45:57] exactly maximum flexibility and um

[46:00] you know the board of supervisors

[46:02] established a digital citizen

[46:05] priority and this is fun yes we're

[46:08] hoping that as long as i get my paper

[46:11] for the next two and a half years

[46:22] this tool makes that easier because we

[46:24] go to that single pdf file and just go

[46:28] print yes spits it out at the end hole

[46:31] punch here you go yeah as opposed to

[46:33] making each item and having it it's

[46:35] funny so it helps in every respect

[46:38] exactly

[46:39] and i really like the idea of being able

[46:41] to search

[46:43] i do i do want to check on that

[46:45] functionality for you um i know it's there in

[46:50] each individual

[46:52] agenda and i believe it's there the

[46:54] first

[46:55] if i could just say search i want to we

[46:57] did something on the blue building and i

[47:00] want to be able to search anything and

[47:02] call and said yeah we had a meeting here

[47:04] and ended you know whether i did it on

[47:05] the

[47:06] when it shows up in the uh

[47:08] in the minutes

[47:09] or uh and then i can link it to the

[47:11] agenda that'd be fine but just being

[47:13] able to say okay we discussed it uh

[47:16] four times in the last two years okay so

[47:21] from your landing page

[47:23] and jim are you are you all still on the

[47:25] landing screen the home page of the

[47:27] agendas

[47:29] up and up next to your name

[47:32] in the upper right hand corner there is

[47:34] a magnifying glass

[47:37] yes and sometimes

[47:38] it helps me and sometimes

[47:41] um

[47:42] and that will take you to the search

[47:44] screen okay

[47:46] and if you hit the search button you can

[47:48] enter a keyword

[47:50] and search by a date range okay

[47:54] um

[47:55] so

[47:56] [Music]

[47:57] i'm gonna search by the gentleman's last

[47:59] name

[48:02] no you won't be on a search back that

[48:04] far yet

[48:06] um

[48:08] but if we go back

[48:11] to april for

[48:12] capture all of april through may

[48:17] um

[48:18] and i searched for the gentleman's last

[48:21] name

[48:22] because i knew that was going to come up

[48:23] for the public hearing tonight and i hit

[48:25] search it's telling me that there's one

[48:27] result

[48:28] and there's an agenda item with his name

[48:31] and it tells me that it's an action item

[48:33] that was scheduled for the regular

[48:35] meeting on may 11th and i can click on

[48:37] that

[48:39] search result and it will take me

[48:40] directly to

[48:42] um

[48:43] to that agenda item

[48:49] so from search

[48:51] you can search meetings items notes if

[48:54] you have your notes in there and you

[48:55] want to search for a term

[48:57] in your notes it will come up there

[49:00] something that you've bookmarked so

[49:02] there is um

[49:03] a search functionality on the agenda

[49:06] screen as well

[49:09] right thank you allison you're welcome

[49:12] i'll answer your questions for the time

[49:14] i already used it this afternoon or this

[49:16] morning i found it useful good

[49:19] thank you very much glad to hear that

[49:20] and i'll get an answer on the foia

[49:22] question

[49:24] all right it's out oh

[49:27] yeah oh the answer's out in the hallway

[49:28] right that's right all right he's

[49:30] shaking his head

[49:32] in the work session and pick up the data

[49:34] in about five minutes perfect thank you

[49:36] i wanted to send it over

[49:38] cole can you pause the meeting for us

[49:40] please

[49:43] good

[49:44] nice

[56:07] cole can you please resume the

[56:10] live stream please

[56:27] it shows up as needed but it's not

[56:44] call are we ready for stream

[56:52] excuse me

[56:59] well mr chairman let's go ahead and get

[57:01] started okay

[57:03] all more supervisors

[57:09] i pledge

[57:10] allegiance of the united states of

[57:13] america

[57:14] and to the republic for which it stands

[57:17] one nation

[57:18] under god

[57:19] indivisible with liberty and justice for

[57:22] all

[57:29] are there

[57:30] changes in addition to deletions to the

[57:32] agenda

[57:34] karen none i would

[57:35] so move to approve

[57:37] second second

[57:45] consent agenda motion to approve okay

[57:48] second

[57:49] all in favor

[57:54] all right

[57:55] next we'll move on to special

[57:57] presentations

[57:59] with the honorable randy cooper over the

[58:02] divisions market table would like to

[58:04] step forward sure that would be

[58:06] wonderful

[58:08] i i think i know some of you up here i

[58:11] brought the podium in especially for you

[58:12] that's all right

[58:15] um

[58:16] so in march of 2020 i opened up a place

[58:18] called provisions market tape um located

[58:21] in the sentinel complex right beside the

[58:24] ocean

[58:26] it says website subway as well

[58:28] um operation for a year and near a few

[58:31] months

[58:34] but we have

[58:39] full service food lunch dinner

[58:42] um we also have a market we started the

[58:45] market

[58:47] to be part of the restaurant not the

[58:49] restaurant itself

[58:50] last year it was a restaurant

[58:52] i'm slowly seeing a turnaround for more

[58:54] food service

[58:55] prepared food service

[58:58] and a lot of local sports a lot of

[59:01] people coming here sports

[59:03] so you guys know i've seen a lot of new

[59:05] faces consistently a lot of younger

[59:07] crowd which i think really orange needs

[59:11] um and that's pretty much it that's it

[59:13] that's all i got

[59:15] very good thank you any questions or

[59:18] comments for randy

[59:19] where are you located

[59:21] 319 north madison road your subway is

[59:24] yes i think uses a landmark or website

[59:26] subway

[59:27] and just oh

[59:29] i've been in there

[59:32] very nice and

[59:34] as i was with your

[59:36] foods and provisions excellent excellent

[59:38] very good

[59:40] thank you thank

[59:45] next you

[59:47] a presentation of a proclamation

[59:49] recognizing national police week and

[59:51] national peace officers mobility today

[59:56] would you like to read the proclamation

[59:59] [Music]

[1:00:00] we do have a french copy down here and

[1:00:03] the sheriff is here to receive it okay

[1:00:06] i'm just assuming

[1:00:08] absolutely

[1:00:11] i prefer that sitting up here if i

[1:00:14] get the sheriff up here

[1:00:20] and if i can make it through this one

[1:00:22] i'm taking the mask off

[1:00:24] nope

[1:00:26] read through this properly i certainly

[1:00:28] will do my best to serve the

[1:00:29] proclamation to recognize the week of

[1:00:31] may 9th through the 15th 2021 as

[1:00:34] national police week and may 15 21

[1:00:38] 2021 as national peace officers memorial

[1:00:41] day by virtue of the authority invested

[1:00:43] in orange county board of supervisors we

[1:00:45] hereby recognize the week of may 9th

[1:00:47] through 15th 2021 as national police

[1:00:50] week and may 15 2021 at national peace

[1:00:54] officers

[1:01:00] kennedy signed the first proclamation

[1:01:03] recognizing every may 15th as peace

[1:01:05] officers memorial day

[1:01:07] and the week in which it falls is

[1:01:09] national police week and whereas police

[1:01:12] officers throughout the commonwealth

[1:01:13] work tirelessly to protect and serve its

[1:01:16] citizens enforce its laws and keep its

[1:01:19] neighborhood schools and families safe

[1:01:21] and whereas police officers report for

[1:01:24] duty aware of the sacrifices they may be

[1:01:26] called upon to make and risk their lives

[1:01:28] each day and every day in order to

[1:01:31] safeguard the public and enforce the

[1:01:33] laws of the commonwealth and whereas

[1:01:36] law enforcement agencies playing a

[1:01:37] critical role in safeguarding the rights

[1:01:40] and freedoms of all citizens and it is

[1:01:42] important for citizens to know and

[1:01:44] understand the duties and

[1:01:45] responsibilities of police departments

[1:01:48] and members of law enforcement agencies

[1:01:50] and whereas members of law enforcement

[1:01:52] agencies

[1:01:54] unceasingly provide a vital public

[1:01:56] service to the communities in which they

[1:01:58] serve and whereas we reflect upon the

[1:02:01] selfness selfless dedication and bravery for our local state and other

[1:02:07] public sector police as our safety and

[1:02:10] well-being are promoted by their

[1:02:12] devotion to maintaining peace and

[1:02:14] security in our communities

[1:02:16] and whereas national police week and

[1:02:19] national peace officers memorial day are

[1:02:21] opportunities to honor officers both

[1:02:24] past and present to commemorate those

[1:02:26] who have fallen in the line of duty and

[1:02:28] to recognize the contributions and

[1:02:30] sacrifices made by the families of those

[1:02:32] officers and the families those

[1:02:34] who continue to protect and serve our

[1:02:36] community now therefore it be proclaimed

[1:02:39] on this 11th day of may 2021 that the

[1:02:42] orange county board of supervisors

[1:02:44] hereby recognizes the week of may 5th

[1:02:47] 9th through 15th 2021 as national police

[1:02:50] week and may 15 2021 as national peace

[1:02:54] officers memorial day

[1:02:56] and calls these observances to the

[1:02:58] orange county community to both increase

[1:03:00] awareness of law enforcement and the

[1:03:02] service provided to the community and to

[1:03:04] rock

[1:03:05] in the honor of the courageous officers

[1:03:07] who have lost their lives or have become

[1:03:09] disabled while serving a line of duty

[1:03:12] signed and sealed the 11th day of may

[1:03:14] 2021 james b cruz chairman orange county

[1:03:17] board of supervisors sheriff

[1:03:20] thank you for everything you

[1:03:22] and your staff do for our county

[1:03:24] protecting our citizens and answering

[1:03:26] calls in a very positive

[1:03:28] community way i truly appreciate it this

[1:03:30] means a lot that our local government

[1:03:32] has done this

[1:03:34] i'll leave out the rest

[1:03:35] thank you very much

[1:03:49] uh next is

[1:03:52] presentation from the orange workforce

[1:03:54] center marty baldwin

[1:04:09] yes sir so i'm not marty baldwin marty

[1:04:12] is a pretty one

[1:04:13] and we're back he'll be up here in a

[1:04:15] second but i'm dave gilmore from the

[1:04:16] virginia career piedmont evening i'm

[1:04:19] going to give you a little bit of intro

[1:04:20] this really talks about the structure of

[1:04:21] workforce development and our career

[1:04:23] center within the region

[1:04:25] marty's going to talk to you then about

[1:04:27] how that applies to orange county

[1:04:28] specifically and answer some of the

[1:04:30] questions

[1:04:33] so our mission we're really one of 15

[1:04:35] workforce boards in the state and we're

[1:04:37] responsible for addressing the workforce

[1:04:39] needs to total workforce in the region

[1:04:42] specifically we're responsible for

[1:04:44] supporting businesses and making sure

[1:04:46] they have the skilled pipeline that they

[1:04:47] need

[1:04:48] but also supporting the job seekers as

[1:04:51] they're looking for

[1:04:52] employment we now have a diversity

[1:04:55] equity inclusion state and we think

[1:04:56] that's becoming more and more critical

[1:04:58] particularly for us because we have

[1:05:00] access to a lot of people

[1:05:02] that are

[1:05:04] within communities that have needs

[1:05:06] so we think we've got a unique

[1:05:08] opportunity to support these people make

[1:05:10] sure those needs are understood by the

[1:05:11] businesses and we're helping the

[1:05:12] businesses deal with their specific

[1:05:14] topics

[1:05:18] we are called local workforce

[1:05:19] development area six it includes 10

[1:05:22] counties that are on this chart plus the

[1:05:24] city of charlottesville

[1:05:26] and within that it's broken down in the

[1:05:28] planning district 9 and district 10.

[1:05:32] orange isn't planned in district 9. so

[1:05:33] we'll focus on that today but it's a

[1:05:35] fairly large region i actually think

[1:05:37] it's the largest workforce development

[1:05:38] region by area in the state

[1:05:42] so it covers an awful lot of land a few

[1:05:45] urban areas

[1:05:47] but mostly

[1:05:48] and that presents some unique challenge

[1:05:52] i want to talk a little bit about our

[1:05:54] one-stop delivery system and and the

[1:05:56] centers that we have because we have

[1:05:58] three different types of centers

[1:06:00] every workforce development area has to

[1:06:02] have one regional comprehensive center

[1:06:05] ours is in charlottesville and that's

[1:06:07] really based on population

[1:06:10] but it just makes sense to put the one

[1:06:12] comprehensive center within

[1:06:13] charlottesville

[1:06:14] the conferences center has all the

[1:06:16] partners either co-located

[1:06:19] or within a very short distance from us

[1:06:22] okay and it is the regional office for

[1:06:24] the beginning employment commission

[1:06:26] that's important because we've got one

[1:06:28] space and they share the cost

[1:06:30] so the way we fund this is through

[1:06:33] virginia career or piedmont region

[1:06:35] but our partners at a co-locator even

[1:06:38] with dust

[1:06:39] also co-found that location

[1:06:42] that becomes important a bit later

[1:06:44] and we are funded as vcwp model through

[1:06:47] federal

[1:06:48] state and local funds so it's not one

[1:06:51] source emily it's all the resources

[1:06:55] we also have two affiliate centers one

[1:06:58] is culpepper

[1:06:59] which marty resides in

[1:07:01] and marty and his staff there are

[1:07:03] actually

[1:07:04] four four

[1:07:05] leo representatives there right some

[1:07:08] caseworkers or career counselors

[1:07:10] and they're supporting the entire pd9

[1:07:13] region

[1:07:14] we also have what we call a resource

[1:07:16] center specialist in that location

[1:07:19] now that location is partially funded by

[1:07:22] rapid hana goodwill

[1:07:24] and by vcwt so in some ways the costs

[1:07:27] are split it's a little bit of a unique

[1:07:29] arrangement we're very thankful for the

[1:07:30] partnership without having a good rule

[1:07:33] but it allows us to keep that center

[1:07:34] open and support the entire region

[1:07:37] we also have the orange center which

[1:07:39] you're very familiar with

[1:07:41] where we have a resource center

[1:07:42] specialist only we actually have a

[1:07:44] temperature taken now as well which due

[1:07:47] to this locative workforce on the state

[1:07:50] but that resource center specialist

[1:07:52] that's sitting in the orange county

[1:07:54] office across the street

[1:07:56] really brings people in does the intake

[1:07:58] process and then refers them to the

[1:08:01] nyola

[1:08:02] specialist or to other services that

[1:08:05] they need so they've got full access to

[1:08:06] our services

[1:08:08] and they're open tuesday through

[1:08:09] thursday

[1:08:11] the funding there is split between

[1:08:13] orange county and very kindly provide

[1:08:15] facility income

[1:08:17] and you're also providing funds for

[1:08:19] their resource center specialist

[1:08:22] the balance of the support costs comes

[1:08:24] from bcp mod

[1:08:30] and then there are three satellite

[1:08:31] centers one in auburn

[1:08:34] one in downtown charlottesville

[1:08:36] the one in one we don't have a lot of

[1:08:39] contact with them unless they requested

[1:08:42] so they're really running stand-alone

[1:08:44] centers for job seekers

[1:08:48] i will say that the albemarle center is

[1:08:51] moving now towards becoming an affiliate

[1:08:54] we're actually going to start the

[1:08:55] certification process now and we're

[1:08:57] using orange county as a model

[1:08:59] because you think you have the right

[1:09:01] model

[1:09:02] for affiliate centers

[1:09:05] that are

[1:09:06] really going to support job seekers and

[1:09:08] businesses with the resource center

[1:09:10] special

[1:09:11] not necessarily a full blanket and a

[1:09:13] staff

[1:09:14] but the incentive can be the conduit

[1:09:17] this satellite center can be the conduit

[1:09:20] all of those satellite centers are

[1:09:22] funded by

[1:09:23] the city or county

[1:09:25] so there's no additional funding we

[1:09:27] certainly support it

[1:09:29] when it's appropriate but we aren't

[1:09:31] providing funding for that

[1:09:34] so why is all that important well we did

[1:09:37] some research recently and looked at our

[1:09:39] constituent server

[1:09:41] and quite frankly i think this is a

[1:09:43] great success story for orange county

[1:09:45] what we learned in pd9 is 93 of those

[1:09:49] served in person who go into a center

[1:09:51] for support

[1:09:53] career support resume writing

[1:09:57] whatever happens

[1:09:58] 93 of those actually have career centers

[1:10:03] so if you look at the charts cult pepper

[1:10:05] and orange

[1:10:07] and falcore county are dominating that

[1:10:09] mix

[1:10:10] we're supporting almost nobody from

[1:10:12] madison and rafah

[1:10:14] and we believe that's because of

[1:10:15] location

[1:10:17] we don't think people are going to drive

[1:10:18] 45 minutes an hour and a half to go to a

[1:10:20] career center it's just not going to

[1:10:22] occur

[1:10:24] we've also did some work because people

[1:10:25] said okay what's probably happening

[1:10:27] virtually we don't believe that's the

[1:10:29] case again we believe a lot of job

[1:10:30] seekers don't have access to eyes

[1:10:32] because they're not going up the tools

[1:10:34] of training

[1:10:38] we saw the same thing in pd 10 where

[1:10:40] albemarle and charlotte were

[1:10:43] the services that we're providing and

[1:10:45] again we believe a lot of that's

[1:10:47] location

[1:10:48] we've actually used that data to apply

[1:10:50] for very virginia grant we're about

[1:10:51] halfway through the process

[1:10:53] we're going to create we're going to try

[1:10:55] to create a mobile

[1:10:56] caseworker system

[1:10:58] some counties like nelson levana

[1:11:02] madison et cetera will provide space and

[1:11:05] provide support

[1:11:07] and we'll actually have a bcwp mod

[1:11:09] representing a

[1:11:11] resource center specialist on site one

[1:11:13] day a week in those locations

[1:11:15] and conducting job fairs in those

[1:11:17] counties

[1:11:18] so again we're using orange county as a

[1:11:20] model for that work because we believe

[1:11:22] that it's a model that's proven to be

[1:11:24] very successful

[1:11:26] we're just going to talk now about some

[1:11:27] of the orange county data that your

[1:11:29] questions are behind real quick

[1:11:32] do you have a breakdown by area of the

[1:11:35] county that supports the orange

[1:11:37] workforce center as

[1:11:42] we have a breakdown by people that

[1:11:44] enroll in the workforce program the wie

[1:11:46] program yeah i think you're talking

[1:11:48] she's talking about the per person

[1:11:52] not all the counties are provided

[1:11:56] well i'm actually talking about from a

[1:11:58] geographic perspective like my zip code would be fun what we ask is just

[1:12:03] which county

[1:12:05] exactly okay

[1:12:06] we could probably date a mine now but we

[1:12:08] don't have a little today okay well

[1:12:10] there's a very specific reason to ask

[1:12:12] about that

[1:12:13] is we we have

[1:12:16] people either in the town of orange

[1:12:18] close to it or town of gordonsville and

[1:12:20] people at the eastern end of the county

[1:12:23] and i'm inclined to think that

[1:12:26] you're not capturing

[1:12:30] our entire

[1:12:31] county i think you're

[1:12:33] inclined to think that you're capturing

[1:12:35] the count of orange area gordonville

[1:12:38] area i was just curious if you had any

[1:12:40] data to back it up or

[1:12:42] i don't think we have data but but i

[1:12:44] believe you're correct based on what

[1:12:45] we're seeing and the

[1:12:48] data we have with that

[1:12:50] the further away you get from the career

[1:12:52] center and the more role you get into an

[1:12:54] area the less likely people are first to

[1:12:56] know about us

[1:12:57] and second to take advantage of the

[1:12:59] services they will offer either because

[1:13:01] of transportation or other other topics

[1:13:05] so we're pretty convinced now going

[1:13:07] forward we have to take the message to

[1:13:08] the people

[1:13:10] and not sit in offices and hope that

[1:13:12] they come back so this is the entire

[1:13:15] philosophy of this government

[1:13:23] so i want to give you a little

[1:13:24] information specifically about the

[1:13:26] orange center some data

[1:13:29] so workforce development is big in the

[1:13:31] news on these days with the shop from

[1:13:34] covid workforce development really is

[1:13:37] listening to the demand from businesses

[1:13:38] and supplying um the labor that this

[1:13:41] businesses need so it's making that

[1:13:42] connection

[1:13:43] um and so i think ranch county is to be

[1:13:46] commended for the last six years making

[1:13:48] an investment in the infrastructure to

[1:13:50] respond in such a uh workforce crisis as

[1:13:53] now um so i want to give you a little

[1:13:54] historical context um a three-year look

[1:13:57] back of the impact from the orange

[1:13:58] workforce center

[1:14:00] and you can see the first graph you have

[1:14:02] is the number of people that have come

[1:14:05] through

[1:14:05] the center here in orange on both

[1:14:08] avenues and we average about 50 job

[1:14:11] seekers a month

[1:14:13] it is part time so it's three days a

[1:14:15] week um facility you can see the

[1:14:18] outliers there the orange which was from

[1:14:21] last spring

[1:14:23] from march april and may

[1:14:25] um the huge spike on one month was over

[1:14:28] 300 folks served a month um primarily

[1:14:32] for unemployment when everything shut

[1:14:33] down

[1:14:34] and unemployment shot up so high

[1:14:36] um

[1:14:37] as far as we do track very carefully job

[1:14:40] placements because that is the data that

[1:14:42] matters to businesses um and to people

[1:14:44] to people's lives so um over the same

[1:14:47] time frame we've

[1:14:49] tracked 225 job placements and then we

[1:14:52] broke them down in this pie chart by

[1:14:53] industry um and you can see that

[1:14:56] 45 were in manufacturing and warehouse

[1:15:00] um jobs we're very happy about that with

[1:15:02] the composition of industry in orange

[1:15:04] that's reflective

[1:15:06] of the needs from businesses that are

[1:15:07] out there

[1:15:08] the other two major industries were

[1:15:11] wholesale retail and services services

[1:15:14] also encompasses health care in this

[1:15:16] breakdown

[1:15:18] and then one of the great advantages of

[1:15:21] partnering with virginia career works is

[1:15:23] you get the support of the other four

[1:15:25] members of the workforce team also

[1:15:28] direct access for your constituents

[1:15:30] to

[1:15:31] workforce funding to pay for tuition for

[1:15:33] credentials

[1:15:35] so we've seen 32 orange county residents

[1:15:37] get credentials

[1:15:38] and you see the breakdown there the

[1:15:40] majority are pursuing careers in

[1:15:42] healthcare

[1:15:43] um then pursuing personal care served by

[1:15:45] nursing assistant clinical medical

[1:15:47] assistant lobotomy credentials

[1:15:50] followed by cdl license cdl a and b um

[1:15:54] those are paid for through through our

[1:15:56] grant um and so those 32 credentials

[1:15:59] represent forty seven thousand dollars

[1:16:00] worth of tuition that virginia

[1:16:02] pre-orders has paid on behalf of orange

[1:16:04] county residents

[1:16:08] i think this is really interesting this

[1:16:09] is a three-year look at the reason that

[1:16:11] people have visited the career work

[1:16:13] center in orange

[1:16:14] um so two years ago sort of as a

[1:16:16] baseline

[1:16:17] and you can see that the majority folks

[1:16:19] came either to do job search they're

[1:16:21] applying for jobs or to meet with

[1:16:23] partner programs um david listed some of

[1:16:25] those partners adult ed

[1:16:27] disabilities sources of eec

[1:16:31] the orange dss

[1:16:33] all operated out of the office and so

[1:16:35] there's partner meetings so the majority

[1:16:37] were for job search are meeting with

[1:16:38] partner programs

[1:16:40] last year you can see what a disruptor

[1:16:42] it was 53 of the visits services were

[1:16:45] for unemployment

[1:16:47] followed by job search and then this

[1:16:49] year is our recovery year responding to

[1:16:52] that impact and we really pivoted to

[1:16:55] create opportunities to connect

[1:16:57] job seekers with

[1:16:58] job opportunities so most folks are

[1:17:01] utilizing the center for job fair or um

[1:17:04] some job search services

[1:17:09] again this is the list i will read to

[1:17:10] you but the ways that we reach out to

[1:17:12] folks that are unemployed in the county

[1:17:15] the ways that we connect with businesses

[1:17:17] to hear what their needs are through

[1:17:18] partnerships um through the accounting

[1:17:21] economic development and then how we

[1:17:22] connect those two together

[1:17:24] um every person in the county who

[1:17:26] does file for unemployment receives

[1:17:29] a introduction email about the services

[1:17:32] at the center we know the email is not

[1:17:34] enough so our resource specialist then

[1:17:36] provides a phone call to tell people

[1:17:38] where we're located

[1:17:40] how they can come in what we can provide

[1:17:43] how they can access the grants to paper

[1:17:45] training and careers switches

[1:17:47] and then

[1:17:48] um there's other outreach to send

[1:17:50] through social media to provide updates

[1:17:52] about who's hiring and events that are

[1:17:55] coming up

[1:17:57] um and then just one time final

[1:18:00] um

[1:18:01] i think to respond to the misalignment

[1:18:04] between labor supply and demand it's

[1:18:06] going to take a lot of creative efforts

[1:18:08] to reconnect those pieces

[1:18:10] um and i think it's going to be some

[1:18:12] small initiatives that will build um

[1:18:15] because each person is different this

[1:18:16] person that we see looking for work has

[1:18:18] certain circumstances each company is

[1:18:20] different

[1:18:21] one example is a project we did last

[1:18:23] year

[1:18:24] um connecting orange county high school

[1:18:26] students to career pathways and

[1:18:28] manufacturing

[1:18:29] working with fm expressions to do an

[1:18:31] internship while our staff did job

[1:18:34] readiness work with the students so that

[1:18:36] they could explore the possibility of a

[1:18:38] career manufacturing i think it's those

[1:18:40] kind of initiatives that are going to

[1:18:41] move this forward

[1:18:43] i know we're short on time are there

[1:18:46] any questions

[1:18:48] can you give an example of luke's

[1:18:50] success story

[1:18:51] yeah i appreciate that um that question

[1:18:54] so we had an orange county resident who

[1:18:56] came to us last year

[1:18:59] she was working at a minimum wage job um

[1:19:01] had

[1:19:02] five kids um an ice minimum wage isn't

[1:19:05] going to support the family the mit

[1:19:08] living wage um calculator says in our

[1:19:10] area an individual just with one kid one

[1:19:14] parent with one kid needs to make twenty

[1:19:15] six dollars an hour to pay all expenses

[1:19:18] so she needs some help so we're able to

[1:19:20] pay for her to get her pca and her cna

[1:19:22] license to go into health care she got a

[1:19:24] pay raise um started working here in the

[1:19:27] county but still needed some more income

[1:19:30] and wanted to advance in her career

[1:19:31] pandemic

[1:19:33] and we were able to connect with a job

[1:19:35] doing contact tracing where she actually

[1:19:38] tripled her salary so now she's using

[1:19:40] healthcare training

[1:19:41] helping people in the community and able

[1:19:43] to support her family

[1:19:45] what's the time frame when you first

[1:19:47] visit her

[1:19:49] yeah that's a great question

[1:19:50] accomplished so when folks go into

[1:19:52] training or enroll in that workforce

[1:19:54] program it used to take between six and

[1:19:56] eighteen months once they get a job we

[1:19:58] stay in touch with them for twelve

[1:19:59] months to make sure they got their name

[1:20:04] what is the primary source of funds for

[1:20:06] the training and the support

[1:20:09] yeah so it's ultimately from the

[1:20:10] department of labor the workforce

[1:20:12] innovation opportunity act um it comes

[1:20:14] down to the state and workforce

[1:20:15] development boards

[1:20:19] could give us a little insight on what

[1:20:21] you're working on to do virginia

[1:20:25] so i can so we've done two things we've

[1:20:27] got to go to virginia brand now it's

[1:20:29] called project reconnect and we're

[1:20:30] really trying to reach out to job

[1:20:32] seekers so as they're coming into the

[1:20:33] system we're reaching out to them via

[1:20:35] email and we're coordinating job fairs

[1:20:39] for that

[1:20:40] we've also created a job secret toolkit

[1:20:42] that gives them access to the tools they

[1:20:44] need to find jobs

[1:20:48] you can go to linkedin if you're an

[1:20:49] executive or a skilled person

[1:20:51] you're not going to use linkedin if

[1:20:53] you're looking for an interconnection

[1:20:54] but there are 12 to 15

[1:20:57] ways to help them find jobs and give

[1:20:59] them access to that

[1:21:01] we're also right in the middle now

[1:21:02] creating an employer toolkit which is

[1:21:04] matching the career pathways to

[1:21:07] employers

[1:21:08] as an example if you're in hospitality

[1:21:10] or if you're in tourism or enlightening

[1:21:13] fashion certain programs within cte

[1:21:15] programs

[1:21:17] within accountings

[1:21:18] within community colleges that are local

[1:21:21] adult education

[1:21:23] that will set you up for a career in

[1:21:25] those specific sectors

[1:21:27] so we're really working hard now to

[1:21:29] identify those sectors we've got six

[1:21:31] within the region

[1:21:32] i imagine and aren't here probably

[1:21:34] covering all six of them

[1:21:36] and we're trying to align the employers

[1:21:38] with the education community and the

[1:21:41] can bring those together we'll then

[1:21:43] create internships apprenticeships

[1:21:46] and opportunities for

[1:21:48] employment that people may not know

[1:21:50] about

[1:21:51] that's the one we have today

[1:21:53] going forward we're applying for new

[1:21:55] virginia ground which i described

[1:21:56] earlier based on the data that we showed

[1:21:58] you we think we're not accessing

[1:22:01] those in the rural communities that do

[1:22:03] not have career centers and we're under

[1:22:05] serving

[1:22:06] we have to find a way to take people to

[1:22:08] those counties even if it's within your

[1:22:10] county but the outskirts of your county

[1:22:12] we have to find a way to get resources

[1:22:14] out to them

[1:22:15] the way we're structured today

[1:22:17] we can only sit in the centers that we

[1:22:20] describe because we just don't have the

[1:22:22] resources or the structure in place

[1:22:24] what we're asking doing virginia to help

[1:22:26] us support is within kind contributions

[1:22:29] from those rural counties

[1:22:31] for facility space and for support

[1:22:34] we're going to provide what we call a

[1:22:36] mobile career specialist or resource

[1:22:38] center specialist that can travel to

[1:22:40] those counties

[1:22:42] work with the employees for job fairs

[1:22:43] but also work with job secrets to make

[1:22:45] sure that we're providing face-to-face

[1:22:47] support

[1:22:48] we believe it's so crucial to be face to

[1:22:51] face with job seekers particularly for

[1:22:53] entry-level provisions that are so

[1:22:54] difficult to find

[1:22:56] and that's what we're hoping we get from

[1:22:58] the government

[1:22:59] what what is the dollar value of these

[1:23:01] two grants so the dollar value for the

[1:23:03] first grant was about a hundred and

[1:23:05] thirty thousand dollars hundred forty

[1:23:07] thousand dollars almost a hundred

[1:23:09] thousand from the state

[1:23:11] matched fifty percent for the localities

[1:23:13] the grant we just applied for is a

[1:23:15] hundred and fifty thousand uh from the

[1:23:17] state and seventy

[1:23:19] natural look penalties for about 225

[1:23:22] this is split between both

[1:23:24] pd-9 and ken or is that pd

[1:23:27] so no it's split between pd and pd-10 so

[1:23:30] it comes out to look highly funny you

[1:23:31] know in some cases workforce innovation

[1:23:34] opportunities have funded as well if it

[1:23:36] can be applied

[1:23:38] but it would be split among the 11

[1:23:41] localities not not one or two

[1:23:49] a couple of comments on the information

[1:23:51] uh

[1:23:54] on page eight you've got some graphs

[1:23:57] there but they they seem incomplete to

[1:23:59] me

[1:24:01] um

[1:24:02] you got

[1:24:05] approximately 50 visits per month

[1:24:08] but it looks like in reality it's

[1:24:11] considered more than 50 visits

[1:24:15] and it seems like we could have been

[1:24:17] given

[1:24:18] an exact amount there if that would have

[1:24:21] been helpful

[1:24:23] um

[1:24:24] and then

[1:24:27] your your next grab is a pie chart

[1:24:30] it's 225 job placements but it doesn't

[1:24:34] give me

[1:24:36] any other information it just says 225

[1:24:39] job placements are they

[1:24:42] 225 job placements in the last three

[1:24:44] years

[1:24:45] that's correct okay

[1:24:48] so

[1:24:49] if you've got 50 visits per month

[1:24:53] that's

[1:24:54] let's just branch through the 50 visits

[1:24:55] even though it appears to me to be

[1:24:58] probably closer to 75 but if not more

[1:25:02] that would be 600 a year or 1800 over

[1:25:06] the three year period and you've got 225

[1:25:08] job points

[1:25:10] and that's a 12 and a half percent

[1:25:12] success rate

[1:25:14] um

[1:25:15] that doesn't seem very president

[1:25:17] yeah and so

[1:25:20] i'd like to know

[1:25:22] what are we what are we planning to do

[1:25:24] different

[1:25:26] this coming year

[1:25:30] to get that 12 and a half percent up to

[1:25:32] maybe

[1:25:33] 20

[1:25:34] no that's that's a great analysis and

[1:25:36] good math there um

[1:25:39] it's uh

[1:25:40] so there's couple things at play

[1:25:43] way above what the state averages as far

[1:25:46] as jobs and visits um the other part we

[1:25:49] didn't have in there the visits we have

[1:25:51] um we often work with that need multiple

[1:25:53] visits so they'll come in multiple times

[1:25:55] for multiple months in a row um each

[1:25:58] person gets an individual employment

[1:26:00] plan which means

[1:26:01] if i need support get my ged that might

[1:26:03] be step one i need some supports for

[1:26:06] child care transportation housing so

[1:26:08] we're working along all those things at

[1:26:10] the same time as employees um our sweet

[1:26:13] spot is working with folks that have

[1:26:15] significant barriers to employment like

[1:26:17] those things that i just mentioned so

[1:26:18] sometimes those take multiple visits

[1:26:21] well

[1:26:26] this is

[1:26:27] [Music]

[1:26:31] envisioned as a

[1:26:35] workforce development boards so the the

[1:26:38] primary idea here is to

[1:26:40] get people who are looking for work into

[1:26:42] work is that correct

[1:26:45] so

[1:26:46] if if in these 50 visits this is a lot

[1:26:50] of

[1:26:51] sort of repeat business then i think

[1:26:53] that's important so so that that makes

[1:26:56] the that graph even less of value to me

[1:26:59] i mean

[1:27:02] we need i need some some good metrics here that say this

[1:27:08] number of people come in in a particular

[1:27:10] period and obviously

[1:27:12] you're not going to instantaneously find

[1:27:14] employment but

[1:27:16] should be within

[1:27:17] a reasonable period of time 60 days i

[1:27:19] need a days or else it

[1:27:21] should count i mean

[1:27:23] yeah

[1:27:24] because because um

[1:27:27] and then the you know the job placements

[1:27:29] and the credentials are it can be placed

[1:27:32] in some type of

[1:27:35] context that's worthwhile but as you presented

[1:27:40] it here

[1:27:43] you know i have no idea

[1:27:45] okay fair enough i what

[1:27:47] mark uh

[1:27:49] what kind of i'm trying to uh since i

[1:27:51] might have some influence on this uh

[1:27:55] in terms of a metric we're saying okay

[1:27:58] i've got somebody who's come in and he's

[1:28:00] been there three or four times for

[1:28:02] different aspects of it

[1:28:04] did he get a job did he get a job in

[1:28:06] orange county did he get a job somewhere

[1:28:08] else

[1:28:08] so maybe a little more detailed follow

[1:28:11] up on the success of

[1:28:16] the process as opposed to just numbers

[1:28:18] well

[1:28:20] first of all you know i kind of like

[1:28:22] just numbers but they need to be numbers

[1:28:24] that actually mean something and i can

[1:28:26] look at them and say okay

[1:28:29] you know i know what this means these

[1:28:31] are just kind of

[1:28:33] pretty charts that didn't you know

[1:28:35] really

[1:28:36] didn't really help me to understand

[1:28:38] if our if our primary focus is to get

[1:28:41] people into the workforce

[1:28:44] uh then there should be metrics that

[1:28:47] let us know

[1:28:48] uh how we're doing

[1:28:50] yeah so and yeah and so i you know if if

[1:28:54] we you know some of these 225 jobs

[1:28:57] theoretically

[1:28:58] they could be repeats you could get

[1:29:00] someone who

[1:29:01] perhaps on paper looks very employable

[1:29:04] and so you're able to get them five jobs

[1:29:06] in a year's time

[1:29:08] i'm theorizing i don't know but i would

[1:29:10] imagine that could happen but how long

[1:29:12] do these people or how how how well do

[1:29:15] these things take what are we really

[1:29:16] accomplishing if we get a job for

[1:29:18] somebody and then

[1:29:20] 30 days later they're unemployed again

[1:29:22] we haven't really accomplished it and

[1:29:24] it's not necessarily i'm not blaming you

[1:29:27] all for them not uh

[1:29:30] working longer than 30 days

[1:29:32] but

[1:29:33] that's important information for this

[1:29:35] board to have in terms of evaluating

[1:29:37] whether

[1:29:38] this is a program that

[1:29:41] suits our needs

[1:29:43] so i can share

[1:29:44] a little more data with you and then we

[1:29:46] can provide you with with more concrete

[1:29:49] information later

[1:29:50] we have we have monthly kpi metrics that

[1:29:54] are based on the state goals for

[1:29:55] workforce development within the region

[1:29:58] and within the district

[1:29:59] within pd9 we're exceeding those goals

[1:30:04] for adult dislocated workers and even

[1:30:07] so

[1:30:08] that's set up based on what's expected

[1:30:10] within the state and statistical

[1:30:12] analysis of what's occurring within the

[1:30:14] state

[1:30:15] and i'll tell you that the results in

[1:30:17] our region are very strong compared to

[1:30:20] other regions within the state and

[1:30:22] they're exceeding the state goals for

[1:30:24] this year even with dependent

[1:30:27] so i'm confident that we have

[1:30:29] a lot of the metrics in kpi you're

[1:30:31] talking now we did not include them in

[1:30:32] this presentation for brevity we're

[1:30:34] happy to provide those treatments we've

[1:30:37] given marty's monthly report

[1:30:39] you know he says he said

[1:30:42] a number of center hires for the

[1:30:44] businesses was five in the last couple

[1:30:46] of months five and april five in march

[1:30:49] and the number of people of businesses

[1:30:51] that were served but in terms of saying

[1:30:54] okay getting back to your question was

[1:30:56] this guy

[1:30:57] hired for a temporary job would we uh

[1:31:00] did we

[1:31:01] this was a guy who came in

[1:31:03] had no skills we got in the skills and

[1:31:05] he now has a job making uh 35 000 a year

[1:31:08] something like that i mean that's

[1:31:10] and

[1:31:12] i know that gets it trying to

[1:31:14] individualize that but i think we need

[1:31:17] maybe some more statistics that approach

[1:31:20] it that way

[1:31:21] and uh and trying to do that so i'm

[1:31:25] with mark on that

[1:31:27] try to make some statistics a little

[1:31:29] more meaningful

[1:31:30] and uh

[1:31:31] and

[1:31:33] i'll

[1:31:34] brainstorm with you a couple of times to

[1:31:36] see what you want to see

[1:31:38] and i also asked

[1:31:40] the council and the board

[1:31:44] to see what we can come up with that

[1:31:47] uh you know now i know you've had some

[1:31:49] uh examples uh that you've uh that

[1:31:52] you've used in the last few months in

[1:31:54] terms of this person needed this and got

[1:31:57] this this and this ended up with a

[1:31:59] pretty good job but those are one-offs

[1:32:02] and trying to build a little more

[1:32:04] statistical assessment of that way

[1:32:07] so i think we can i think we can try to

[1:32:09] do that now

[1:32:11] the other side of this step i'd like to

[1:32:13] see some more information about the

[1:32:16] business side what are you seeing in the

[1:32:18] way of

[1:32:19] requests uh

[1:32:21] you know i think

[1:32:22] i take your 225 over the last three

[1:32:24] years and that's about 70 per year that

[1:32:27] you've offered well that might be a good

[1:32:29] number if you're if you had 90 requests

[1:32:31] and you're doing really well if you had

[1:32:33] 900 requests then the business need is

[1:32:37] not being fully met

[1:32:39] you're not responsible for every hire

[1:32:41] that they need to make obviously but it

[1:32:43] would be nice to see some metric on the

[1:32:47] success you're having in terms of

[1:32:49] meeting the overall lead

[1:32:51] standpoint of the businesses themselves

[1:32:54] yeah if you had ballpark how many jobs

[1:32:56] are available here in arms

[1:32:58] yeah

[1:32:59] i i can tell you from so a couple things

[1:33:02] along that one demand is definitely

[1:33:05] outpacing supply

[1:33:07] locally and nationally

[1:33:09] at the time where we had a job fair um

[1:33:11] 10 days ago here at wooster park

[1:33:14] we had 16 local businesses from orange

[1:33:17] 47 job seekers come from those 16

[1:33:20] businesses i easily counted over 200 job

[1:33:22] openings so demand is definitely beyond

[1:33:25] supply right now

[1:33:27] especially for entry level lower wage

[1:33:31] higher labor positions so whether that's

[1:33:33] manufacturing like manufacturing

[1:33:35] greenhouse construction those are the

[1:33:38] openings that are available and there's

[1:33:39] just got not as many people

[1:33:41] um there to fill those we're seeing that

[1:33:43] in every region in the state and

[1:33:44] nationally i heard a statistic earlier

[1:33:46] they're 8 100.

[1:33:50] sorry there

[1:33:53] are 8 100 jobs of them

[1:33:56] 8 200 job seekers

[1:34:00] within an expanding region and they

[1:34:02] don't match because people are looking

[1:34:04] for entry-level workers and they can't

[1:34:06] find them what's happened is a lot of

[1:34:07] neutral of the world is pivoted in one

[1:34:09] another industries particularly in

[1:34:11] hospitality

[1:34:12] we're running into that across the

[1:34:14] region

[1:34:15] light manufacturing is getting killed

[1:34:17] right now because they can't find the

[1:34:19] entry-level workers that they need and

[1:34:21] they're not out there

[1:34:23] right we believe it's related to people

[1:34:25] pivoting into new careers when the

[1:34:26] pandemic head which is also related to

[1:34:28] the

[1:34:29] insurance extra

[1:34:32] people are making 17 to 18 an hour now

[1:34:35] not working

[1:34:36] when you're offering you know 14 15 an

[1:34:39] hour it's a high-end entry-level job

[1:34:42] that's really going to hurt that's

[1:34:44] really going to hurt supply

[1:34:46] so we absolutely know within the within

[1:34:49] orange within the region of the state

[1:34:51] and nationally

[1:34:53] there are more jobs available today than

[1:34:55] there are job seekers

[1:34:57] there's no doubt that's the case and we

[1:34:58] hear about it every day

[1:35:00] so the hourly equivalent of not working

[1:35:03] is 17 an hour roughly yeah

[1:35:05] and so another piece of that that spoke

[1:35:08] to the orange manufacturer today

[1:35:10] they're increasing their wage to be more

[1:35:12] competitive time to try to capture those

[1:35:14] entries

[1:35:16] um

[1:35:16] welcome mr johnson mr fraim um if

[1:35:19] there's any specific data points you'll

[1:35:21] want us to track on the monthly report

[1:35:22] did i send the board

[1:35:24] welcome

[1:35:25] to a little brainstorming in terms of

[1:35:27] just what what would be meaningful

[1:35:29] in terms of uh what we're accomplishing

[1:35:32] i'm looking at like

[1:35:34] over the last number of months you had

[1:35:36] 81

[1:35:37] a number of employers served

[1:35:41] and then 27 numbers of uh

[1:35:44] center hires

[1:35:46] and

[1:35:47] where do those two correlate

[1:35:49] is there

[1:35:50] is is that 27 out of 81 or did we have

[1:35:55] some other help to an employer

[1:35:57] that we served that wasn't necessarily

[1:35:59] related to a job but maybe helping them

[1:36:01] to uh define their uh

[1:36:04] their what their requirements were or

[1:36:07] what their uh ads should look like

[1:36:09] things like that so i think there's some stuff to be done with that

[1:36:14] and there are spreadsheets behind the

[1:36:15] spreadsheet so there's more information

[1:36:17] well and that's why i say maybe we can

[1:36:19] break that down but uh

[1:36:22] understanding it from uh mark's

[1:36:23] standpoint i think he's been a good

[1:36:25] point

[1:36:26] let me just follow up on something you

[1:36:28] just said you talked about the 8 100

[1:36:33] jobs

[1:36:34] i think it was and 8 200

[1:36:37] people looking for jobs

[1:36:39] or vice versa even 200 jobs it's a

[1:36:42] one-to-one ratio in the nation in the

[1:36:44] state and regions right

[1:36:46] and i understand it's the same way here

[1:36:48] in orange county from what i've heard

[1:36:51] and then you and then you went on to

[1:36:52] mention the

[1:36:54] people could make 17 an hour

[1:36:58] sitting home

[1:37:00] are those people

[1:37:02] are they included in the

[1:37:05] 8 000 people who are unemployed yeah

[1:37:09] so do we have a way of figuring out

[1:37:12] actually how many people we have

[1:37:14] who are unemployed and looking for work

[1:37:17] yeah so i looked at the numbers this

[1:37:18] morning so orange county unemployment

[1:37:20] rate is 4.9 which is better than the

[1:37:22] state average about one is a point

[1:37:25] better than the national average i mean

[1:37:27] there's 814 people in each county that

[1:37:30] are unemployed right now before the

[1:37:32] pandemic it was 490. so you know less

[1:37:35] than 400 folks that's that's something

[1:37:37] we can we could tackle

[1:37:39] but are they

[1:37:40] those 814

[1:37:42] are they just people who are maybe

[1:37:44] collecting unemployment benefits are

[1:37:46] they 814 people are actually looking for

[1:37:48] work

[1:37:50] so starting in two weeks everybody

[1:37:52] collecting the deployment will have to

[1:37:53] submit two jobs that they've applied for

[1:37:56] every week and that's been something we

[1:37:58] haven't had to do before for quite a

[1:38:00] while

[1:38:05] we don't have any way of uh i i thought there was a point in

[1:38:09] which people stopped looking they

[1:38:11] dropped off the unemployment rates

[1:38:13] that's right yeah they dropped out of

[1:38:14] the labor force participation rates

[1:38:17] so those people are they

[1:38:19] they're not part of the 814 that you're

[1:38:22] talking about

[1:38:25] but the bugs also declare their other

[1:38:27] barriers child care schools are not they

[1:38:30] have been there's certainly child care

[1:38:32] issues their transportation issues have

[1:38:34] been armed for a while right there that

[1:38:36] is not the only barrier but it is a

[1:38:39] barrier

[1:38:40] we think that's going to change when the

[1:38:42] requirement to look for work begins at

[1:38:44] the end of may

[1:38:46] but it's probably not at least most

[1:38:48] analysis i've seen say that's not going

[1:38:49] to make a huge difference what's really

[1:38:51] going to make a huge difference is when

[1:38:53] the federal government stops giving the

[1:38:54] additional 300

[1:38:56] employment

[1:38:57] which now is slated for september

[1:39:00] so we think there will be a month coming

[1:39:03] there will be more job seekers starting

[1:39:05] at the end of may

[1:39:07] but at least conventional wisdom now is

[1:39:09] that that will really take a step up in

[1:39:11] september or if states decided to stop

[1:39:14] accepting that money with several states

[1:39:16] of stockholm

[1:39:19] so i've got 800 jobs and 800 job seekers

[1:39:23] but trying to find a match

[1:39:25] to any one of those 814

[1:39:27] that can match in terms of whether they

[1:39:30] whether the

[1:39:32] wages are enough whether the skills are

[1:39:33] enough whether the child care is enough

[1:39:36] or whether the transportation is enough

[1:39:38] all of those things trying to match

[1:39:40] those

[1:39:40] is what the is where we're running into

[1:39:43] the challenges

[1:39:44] well but it sounds like we don't have

[1:39:46] any better jobs

[1:39:48] we have some smaller numbers

[1:39:51] because

[1:39:55] we have 814 eligible job seekers

[1:39:59] and

[1:40:00] the federal government has made it very

[1:40:01] convenient for 800 of them to not seek

[1:40:04] jobs or some number so many of those 8

[1:40:07] 14 probably have a cash job on the side

[1:40:10] too so yep

[1:40:12] but the other thing that we're

[1:40:13] anticipating around august september is

[1:40:16] um you know

[1:40:17] parents doing double duty as teachers

[1:40:19] parents and trying to work that's just

[1:40:21] been you know difficult and so if

[1:40:24] schools get back into a regular session

[1:40:26] parents don't have the full triple duty

[1:40:28] within you'll be more people

[1:40:29] historically april september is our

[1:40:32] biggest time of seeing people start new

[1:40:34] jobs because people are ready to make a

[1:40:35] change so we're really gearing up for

[1:40:37] that kind of thing well the point for me

[1:40:39] is not i'm not trying to beat anybody

[1:40:40] over the head

[1:40:43] what i'm trying to do is understand the

[1:40:44] actual numbers

[1:40:46] so if we're if we're looking at the

[1:40:48] problem that

[1:40:52] businesses are having getting employees

[1:40:54] and we say well there's there's 814

[1:40:57] people looking for work well

[1:41:00] and there's eight i think there's

[1:41:01] roughly 800 jobs available in orange

[1:41:03] county right now but in fact there isn't

[1:41:05] 814 people

[1:41:07] i mean there is some smaller number so

[1:41:09] that would

[1:41:10] i mean

[1:41:11] you talked about the fact they don't

[1:41:13] match which that makes sense i mean if

[1:41:15] you got a high skilled person out of

[1:41:17] work they're not going to be looking to

[1:41:18] do a low-skilled job

[1:41:20] and and low-skilled people can't

[1:41:23] qualify for the high-skill job but

[1:41:26] it's very difficult for me to understand

[1:41:28] the problem unless i have actual

[1:41:31] hard data

[1:41:32] to look at that's my main point here

[1:41:35] you know

[1:41:36] just saying we've got equal number of

[1:41:38] job seekers and job openings

[1:41:42] it doesn't sound like that's really a

[1:41:44] factual statement yeah it is to be clear

[1:41:47] it's equal number of unemployed

[1:41:49] that are receiving benefits first

[1:41:52] job opportunity my suggestion here is

[1:41:55] can you do some data mining

[1:41:57] and get with mr johnson and mr fraim to

[1:42:02] break it down

[1:42:04] and find a more

[1:42:06] accurate

[1:42:08] accounting of people actually looking

[1:42:10] for jobs that are unemployed

[1:42:13] versus the total number of unemployed

[1:42:17] that i know that's one area that we're

[1:42:19] looking for is

[1:42:21] we have 800

[1:42:24] how many of the 814

[1:42:27] unemployed

[1:42:28] are actively looking

[1:42:30] to fill those jobs

[1:42:32] and

[1:42:34] within that

[1:42:36] where is the discrepancy or the

[1:42:38] disparity

[1:42:39] between

[1:42:41] employability level

[1:42:43] and what we have

[1:42:46] in jobs that would be a very good start

[1:42:49] and we can go from there that work

[1:42:54] because we're gonna we're gonna do our

[1:42:57] best to date and mind that for orange

[1:42:59] county but i will tell you it's gonna

[1:43:00] rely on our partners at virginia

[1:43:02] employment commission and others

[1:43:04] some of what here these are great

[1:43:06] questions i'm not sure we're gonna have

[1:43:07] all the data we're gonna get the data

[1:43:09] that we can present back okay and i

[1:43:11] would also appreciate

[1:43:13] the

[1:43:13] zip codes

[1:43:16] for the unemployment

[1:43:18] yeah because we do

[1:43:20] the fact that we're getting more people

[1:43:22] from orange and

[1:43:23] gordonsville into the uh center

[1:43:25] and uh

[1:43:27] any of the people the other end of the

[1:43:29] county using it or where do they go if

[1:43:31] anywhere

[1:43:33] i thought would that work for pronouncer

[1:43:35] or is it what you'd like

[1:43:50] someone living at the other end of the

[1:43:52] county lake in the woods for instance

[1:43:54] just a drawing about that

[1:43:56] i mean they could go to the culpepper

[1:43:58] center correct they don't they don't

[1:43:59] have to go to the one in their county so

[1:44:02] that would be a probably a shorter drive

[1:44:04] for and just one clarification um every

[1:44:07] person that goes through the door of the

[1:44:09] orange workforce center we have

[1:44:10] information on them dad i can give you

[1:44:11] all this what you need you are also

[1:44:13] asking some bigger global questions that

[1:44:15] will require economists or state

[1:44:17] agencies to provide more information so

[1:44:20] i think that was today would we be able

[1:44:21] to determine how many orange county

[1:44:23] residents go to culprit yeah

[1:44:26] it's not very many yeah

[1:44:29] all right very good all right thank you appreciate it

[1:44:36] moving on to new business awarded an

[1:44:38] additional contract for general

[1:44:40] engineering

[1:44:51] good evening everyone

[1:44:56] um at the

[1:44:58] board supervisors meeting on april 27th

[1:45:02] contracts were awarded for general

[1:45:04] engineering and architectural services

[1:45:07] we had a firm

[1:45:08] epr

[1:45:09] submit a proposal that should have been

[1:45:11] included

[1:45:12] in at the last meeting for an award this

[1:45:16] firm has previously had a contract with

[1:45:19] the county for general engineering and

[1:45:21] architectural services and staff has

[1:45:23] been very pleased with their services

[1:45:25] and would like to keep working with them

[1:45:29] staff feels that epr should be awarded a

[1:45:31] contract to assist with current and

[1:45:33] future projects

[1:45:35] so we are asking approval to move

[1:45:37] forward with this contract which would

[1:45:40] be for one year with the possibility of

[1:45:42] four one year renewals

[1:45:48] questions

[1:45:51] so this is to add them to them

[1:45:56] and but they applaud the approach yes

[1:46:01] all right all in favor all right

[1:46:12] department director council officer

[1:46:14] reports

[1:46:16] nothing

[1:46:18] to watch

[1:46:24] just one item that uh is sent by email

[1:46:26] and just to make everyone aware of the

[1:46:30] state of emergency regarding fuel i've

[1:46:32] just sent something out to all

[1:46:34] department heads to make contingency

[1:46:36] plans in the event that we have

[1:46:38] difficulty securing gasoline sheriff's

[1:46:41] office it feels like they've made such

[1:46:43] arrangements

[1:46:44] schools uh main tank has been topped off

[1:46:47] so we think we can probably operate

[1:46:50] for a couple of weeks

[1:46:52] so we should be able to get through the

[1:46:54] kind of time frame i think of a children

[1:46:56] now so let's just call that to your

[1:46:58] attention

[1:46:59] okay put a quick question on that um

[1:47:02] the school's tanks are

[1:47:04] capped off and for some reason this

[1:47:06] could go a little bit longer

[1:47:09] would we go back to a virtual school

[1:47:12] scenario for a while

[1:47:15] well that's certainly an option i would

[1:47:17] suppose but we have not gone that far to try to postulate a scenario but we

[1:47:22] certainly have practiced doing that for

[1:47:24] some time and i'm just saying if for

[1:47:26] some i understand that uh colonial's

[1:47:29] supposed to be back online and getting

[1:47:30] everything back to normal i'm just

[1:47:33] that's just happened extra

[1:47:49] well that's part of the problem right

[1:47:50] now they're having an issue getting

[1:47:53] drivers for the tanker trucks and

[1:47:56] meeting the federal mandates as far as

[1:47:58] the hours that they can drop that's

[1:48:00] right that seems to be the major issue

[1:48:03] right now so i was just curious yes sir

[1:48:05] i was wrong

[1:48:07] all right thank you sir

[1:48:09] um

[1:48:15] mr jillian oh

[1:48:20] the

[1:48:20] tax bills have not gone out yet and i've

[1:48:23] gotten a call from a constituent about

[1:48:25] that

[1:48:27] uh and

[1:48:29] what i would propose is that

[1:48:34] because of the circumstances

[1:48:38] that have led to the bills going out

[1:48:41] they're not late statutorily

[1:48:44] but they are late compared to what they

[1:48:46] normally the normal schedule

[1:48:48] uh i would like to propose that we um

[1:48:51] once again adopt either a 30 or 45 day

[1:48:56] delay

[1:48:57] in the implementation of penalties and

[1:49:00] interest

[1:49:01] as we've done the past couple cycles

[1:49:03] what what is your proposal for well i

[1:49:05] would say you know we delay 45 days

[1:49:08] it would still be due on on on

[1:49:10] i think the 7th or whatever but there

[1:49:13] would be a 45 delay before

[1:49:15] penalties and interest rates grace

[1:49:17] period

[1:49:18] right okay

[1:49:20] on that

[1:49:23] second okay any further discussion

[1:49:26] thank you mr johnson i appreciate that

[1:49:29] uh all in favor

[1:49:31] opposed

[1:49:32] i'll say unanimously thank you sir

[1:49:37] mr white

[1:49:40] one comment uh

[1:49:42] sort of a sad

[1:49:43] comment that you're all aware there's a

[1:49:46] couple fatalities at the intersection of

[1:49:48] route 522 and independence

[1:49:51] over the

[1:49:52] weekend before

[1:49:54] last uh

[1:49:57] circumstances were

[1:49:59] a bit odd that

[1:50:00] those of us that happens to be in in

[1:50:02] district two those of us who travel

[1:50:04] frequently have

[1:50:06] had

[1:50:07] hair-raising experiences regularly

[1:50:10] i did reach out

[1:50:12] to alexander's of veda to talk about the

[1:50:17] problems there and the issues and it's a challenging situation for which

[1:50:22] there's no easy solution

[1:50:26] i guess you could put a traffic signal

[1:50:27] there but nobody is really going down

[1:50:29] that path and so

[1:50:31] i want to make essentially two comments

[1:50:35] allen was very receptive as a matter of

[1:50:36] fact that afternoon after i spoke with

[1:50:38] him he and the safety engineer went out

[1:50:40] and

[1:50:42] started assessing

[1:50:44] the what if game what could we do in the

[1:50:45] short term in the long term long term

[1:50:48] uh it's a possibility that a major

[1:50:50] renovation

[1:50:52] could take place under smart scale

[1:50:54] funding and these kind of things so that

[1:50:55] could

[1:50:56] come before us at some point uh

[1:50:59] short term it's probably going to be

[1:51:01] what what they

[1:51:02] like to

[1:51:03] euphemistically call traffic calming

[1:51:06] which could be anything from

[1:51:07] signage and flashing lights to rumble

[1:51:10] scripts the lord knows what

[1:51:12] but

[1:51:15] i think we're going to have to take some

[1:51:16] relatively aggressive

[1:51:18] steps that that road on anybody who

[1:51:22] travels and knows on especially on the

[1:51:23] weekends in the lake end of traffic

[1:51:27] is pretty tough and it's actually gotten

[1:51:30] worse because of the improvements that

[1:51:32] were made at 5 22 and 20 because the

[1:51:34] traffic can move through there better so

[1:51:38] it's a situation that

[1:51:41] is going to probably come before us at

[1:51:43] some point fairly soon to

[1:51:46] move up

[1:51:47] the list in terms of uh

[1:51:53] anyway

[1:51:56] what's marshall

[1:51:58] um

[1:52:05] next is informational items

[1:52:10] next would be appointments to boards

[1:52:11] commissions and committees

[1:52:25] next is the calendar

[1:52:41] do we have anything

[1:52:46] very good

[1:52:49] human

[1:52:57] good pleasure right we will move into

[1:52:59] the public hearings

[1:53:01] um

[1:53:04] uh

[1:53:05] public hearing is

[1:53:07] scp-2101

[1:53:10] william renata

[1:53:18] can you please go ahead and do your

[1:53:19] presentation

[1:53:20] uh yes good evening

[1:53:22] um this is an application as you

[1:53:25] mentioned by william bernard to operate

[1:53:27] a livestock slaughtering and processing

[1:53:29] facility on property owned by knight

[1:53:32] cattle corp

[1:53:34] located at 15415

[1:53:36] james madison highway

[1:53:39] property is located in district 1 is

[1:53:42] zoned general industrial

[1:53:44] its future land use map designation is

[1:53:48] economic development

[1:53:51] the affected acreage is

[1:53:53] 25.73 acres

[1:53:56] the application was made pursuant to

[1:53:59] zoning ordinance section

[1:54:01] 70-543 item 15

[1:54:04] rendering plant panerai or other similar

[1:54:07] use of an odorous nature involving the

[1:54:09] production or processing of animal

[1:54:11] products

[1:54:14] um as i mentioned and as you know this

[1:54:16] is

[1:54:17] been the site of a livestock market for quite some time

[1:54:22] um the planning commission opened their

[1:54:24] public hearing on the application on

[1:54:26] march 4th received public comments

[1:54:29] through march 23rd and concluded their

[1:54:32] deliberations and formulated a

[1:54:34] recommendation for approval on april 1st

[1:54:38] 2021

[1:54:39] the commission received five sets of

[1:54:41] comments and considered

[1:54:44] that they considered three were in

[1:54:45] support of the proposal and two proposed

[1:54:48] questions and concerns

[1:54:50] one of those sets one of those

[1:54:52] commenters was particularly concerned

[1:54:54] about the potential for storage of

[1:54:58] byproducts outside the

[1:55:01] structure

[1:55:02] and during the commission's discussions

[1:55:04] with the applicant mr renaud emphasized

[1:55:06] that there would be no outside storage

[1:55:08] of

[1:55:09] non-non-processed by-products

[1:55:12] it is understood that all slaughtering

[1:55:15] would take place inside the structure

[1:55:17] and that a valid virginia department of

[1:55:19] health permit for the septic system is

[1:55:21] required for the virginia department of

[1:55:23] agriculture and consumer services to

[1:55:26] certify the facility and the products

[1:55:29] mr renaud indicated that he was a

[1:55:31] minimal to a condition that would limit

[1:55:33] the number of animals which would be

[1:55:35] cows and hogs

[1:55:37] processed to 25 per week

[1:55:39] on a vote of one to four or four to one

[1:55:42] the commission voted to recommend

[1:55:44] approval of the special used permit with

[1:55:47] conditions

[1:55:49] and i'm happy to review those now if

[1:55:51] you'd like or wait until later

[1:55:56] okay um

[1:56:00] and i actually have a question regarding

[1:56:02] the

[1:56:03] limit of 25 per week

[1:56:06] [Music]

[1:56:09] what is the

[1:56:10] reasoning for that

[1:56:15] um i believe that the commission um

[1:56:18] felt that they didn't want to leave it

[1:56:20] completely open-ended it was not that

[1:56:22] they don't want to see the activity

[1:56:25] thrive

[1:56:26] but um

[1:56:28] since mr renaud had um

[1:56:31] indicated that that was acceptable to

[1:56:33] him

[1:56:33] um

[1:56:35] i think they just wanted to have some

[1:56:37] demonstration that um all you know the

[1:56:40] installation and the operation

[1:56:42] were all

[1:56:44] that the facilities were adequate to

[1:56:46] support the use

[1:56:53] do you have any anybody have any other

[1:56:55] questions before we hear the applicant

[1:57:00] great

[1:57:02] thank you

[1:57:04] just so i understand

[1:57:06] can we review the conditions of the

[1:57:09] approval i wasn't aware

[1:57:12] besides the eliminating the 25. okay

[1:57:14] yeah is what are the conditions

[1:57:18] uh yes i'm sorry i was thinking mr

[1:57:21] renaud had received a copy of the staff

[1:57:24] report i know that i didn't um forward

[1:57:25] there

[1:57:28] i just didn't know that there was

[1:57:32] i'm sorry i didn't hear what you said

[1:57:33] but i i will review them um so for the terms of the special use permit

[1:57:38] is to this permit is to allow operation

[1:57:41] of a livestock slaughtering and

[1:57:42] processing facility on tax map parcel

[1:57:45] 57-34

[1:57:48] controlling documents shall be the

[1:57:50] documents submit it with the application

[1:57:52] date at january 26 2021

[1:57:55] and the conditions as set forth herein

[1:57:58] use and development of the subject

[1:58:00] property shall be in substantial

[1:58:02] conformance with these conditions the

[1:58:04] zoning administrator shall determine

[1:58:06] substantial conformance

[1:58:08] the property owner slash facility

[1:58:11] operator shall be responsible for

[1:58:13] obtaining all required county licenses

[1:58:16] site plan approvals building permits

[1:58:19] health permits virginia department of

[1:58:21] transportation permits zoning permits

[1:58:24] storm water permits and erosion sediment

[1:58:26] control permits as may be applicable

[1:58:32] a 30 inch stop sign she'll be installed

[1:58:35] along with a 24 inch wide thermoplastic

[1:58:39] stop bar at the exit of the commercial

[1:58:41] entrance

[1:58:42] the mailbox location shall be adjusted

[1:58:44] to ensure that it does not block

[1:58:46] intersection site distance to the south

[1:58:49] of the entrance

[1:58:51] storage of non-processed by-products

[1:58:53] shall be in barrels stored inside the

[1:58:56] building there shall be no outside

[1:58:58] storage of such by-products

[1:59:01] virginia department of agriculture and

[1:59:03] consumer services certification shall be

[1:59:05] maintained

[1:59:07] this special use permit shall be issued

[1:59:09] to the applicant and is not transferable

[1:59:11] to a subsequent operator or property

[1:59:14] owner the number of animals to be

[1:59:16] slaughtered shall be limited to 25 per

[1:59:18] week

[1:59:22] okay thank you

[1:59:28] why is

[1:59:39] the page that's in front of you is from

[1:59:41] sandra's

[1:59:43] staff report that is prepared for the

[1:59:45] planning commission public hearing

[1:59:47] item f was not added until the planning

[1:59:50] commission's public hearing at the

[1:59:52] planning commission's recommendation

[1:59:55] sandra summarized that in her action

[1:59:58] memo and then i have it contained in the

[2:00:01] draft ordinance for the board's

[2:00:03] consideration okay

[2:00:05] it appears it was also in the resolution

[2:00:08] that the planning commission adopted yes i remember

[2:00:16] i don't know why we include this in our

[2:00:21] workbench right the full staff report

[2:00:24] yeah i mean

[2:00:25] it should be updated the staff report

[2:00:30] this is a staff report to the planning

[2:00:32] commission yes the staff report should

[2:00:34] be updated for the board of supervisors

[2:00:38] this is a memorandum of the orange

[2:00:40] county planning commission

[2:00:42] and this this if this is included in the

[2:00:44] packet at all because

[2:00:46] you know

[2:00:47] i'm two decades in on having this

[2:00:49] conversation where how come it's not on

[2:00:51] here

[2:00:52] this was at the front of the pack it

[2:00:54] should be at the back of the pack if

[2:00:56] anywhere okay and an updated one should

[2:00:59] be able to say uh supplemental report

[2:01:02] for the uh it's a supplemental memo but

[2:01:04] i mean it was should go to the board of

[2:01:07] supervisors which would include all the

[2:01:09] changes that the planning commission

[2:01:10] made

[2:01:12] so anyway i just

[2:01:15] would request that staff consider

[2:01:17] perhaps changing the way they do that

[2:01:20] so

[2:01:21] we don't ask to have questions every

[2:01:22] time it comes up okay

[2:01:25] did you have any other comments or

[2:01:27] concerns

[2:01:28] no sir uh

[2:01:30] as far as any of those concessions or

[2:01:32] stipulations or requirements none of

[2:01:34] those are

[2:01:36] 25 animals a week

[2:01:40] again

[2:01:41] we are battling a little bit of a

[2:01:42] stereotype with the industry and

[2:01:46] truthfully for us to get above that

[2:01:48] capacity i have to come back in front of

[2:01:50] the board and request to build

[2:01:52] additional structures and and

[2:01:54] within and room to do that so

[2:01:57] um i was fine with the 25 capacity okay

[2:02:01] so the 25 is

[2:02:04] truly based on the current structure and

[2:02:07] capacity that you have yes

[2:02:09] and you would have to come back in a

[2:02:10] minute you'd have to get building

[2:02:12] permits and everything and then come

[2:02:13] back

[2:02:14] yes originally mr chairman

[2:02:16] mr renault it kind of laid it out that

[2:02:19] there was going to be

[2:02:22] so many so many hugs and not to exceed this many

[2:02:27] cows or whatever and so actually

[2:02:30] it was simple the process was simplified

[2:02:32] a little bit to set 25 ounces we don't

[2:02:34] really care whether it's with the mix

[2:02:36] between hogs and cows or

[2:02:38] sheep or whatever it is right so and and

[2:02:41] our thinking is that

[2:02:43] again we

[2:02:45] know there's some very stereotype and

[2:02:46] history with the industry

[2:02:49] we figured that gave everyone a little

[2:02:50] bit of ease

[2:02:51] and allowed to go through a little

[2:02:53] smoother and we didn't think it was a

[2:02:55] very big concession

[2:02:58] what is your background in this type of

[2:03:00] business uh

[2:03:02] it's not uh terribly long i uh

[2:03:05] out of the marine corps i spent uh 20

[2:03:07] years in the

[2:03:08] power industry um

[2:03:10] got engaged to the local farmer's

[2:03:13] daughter and uh tried some of the beef

[2:03:16] from the farm that

[2:03:17] i've never had before straight you know

[2:03:19] straightened my farm the table

[2:03:22] was blown away with it so i

[2:03:25] just took that idea and started a

[2:03:28] company and started labor and beef and

[2:03:30] buying from local producers

[2:03:32] from my own form

[2:03:33] um

[2:03:35] took that label had some success with it

[2:03:37] and

[2:03:38] the first limitation of building a label

[2:03:40] like that or that

[2:03:42] part of that industry is uh inventory

[2:03:45] control so after co bid

[2:03:48] i was lucky enough because of some

[2:03:51] things we were planning in march

[2:03:53] i committed to eight dates a month with

[2:03:56] fall care science

[2:03:57] and

[2:03:59] right after pandemic did march

[2:04:01] everything got hooked up for 2020 and

[2:04:04] now they're currently booked through

[2:04:05] 2021

[2:04:09] with the with my motivation to build a

[2:04:11] label and a business that's uh slightly

[2:04:14] separate from the piedmont process

[2:04:17] we knew that we just had to get control

[2:04:19] over our own process what what capacity

[2:04:22] does

[2:04:23] process what does their capacity

[2:04:25] probably be our that's we are three

[2:04:27] month processing all of yours is um

[2:04:30] yes sir they're 130 to 150 a week

[2:04:34] and um

[2:04:35] again they're booked through 2021

[2:04:38] 12 under 22. and

[2:04:40] if you're familiar with their facility

[2:04:42] as far as footprint it

[2:04:44] truthfully does not take large square

[2:04:46] footage to process

[2:04:48] the report

[2:04:50] your square footage is cooler wall and freezer space

[2:04:56] i'm friends with the owner of your slime

[2:04:58] so i have a lot of guidance through some

[2:05:00] of these

[2:05:01] systems or processes

[2:05:03] we're working with vdx

[2:05:05] and have continued to work with

[2:05:07] usda

[2:05:08] we're waiting for kind of a ruling from

[2:05:11] them hopefully in the next couple days

[2:05:14] in fact to apply to both or can i

[2:05:16] operate under usda custom exam but

[2:05:19] in the end it's really the same process

[2:05:21] i may just be able to avoid having to

[2:05:23] deal with it

[2:05:24] on the state level um but that's for the

[2:05:26] custom exam so our goal is to

[2:05:30] our approval of this sup we are going to

[2:05:32] finish the really start the construction

[2:05:35] of the walk-in coolers um we discussed

[2:05:38] this building apartment and everything

[2:05:39] else so we feel like we have our adults

[2:05:41] in a row for that um

[2:05:43] as soon as we have the coolers built

[2:05:45] we're going to open up under a custom

[2:05:47] exam

[2:05:48] which either through usda or through vdx

[2:05:51] is an inspection process which

[2:05:53] meets the guidelines of my special use

[2:05:56] immediately after that we are going to

[2:05:58] start the state inspection process our

[2:06:00] ultimate goal is to get the state

[2:06:02] inspection because it allows me as my

[2:06:05] label the producer to get my product

[2:06:08] market and also allows

[2:06:10] other local area farmers to

[2:06:12] actually take their product to the

[2:06:13] market for reason

[2:06:21] one question that came up uh

[2:06:24] several weeks ago in discussions

[2:06:26] to my understanding you were you were

[2:06:27] not going to be processing uh

[2:06:31] game animals of any kind or that at this

[2:06:34] point

[2:06:35] these are all animals that

[2:06:37] you would slaughter on site and

[2:06:39] process them

[2:06:41] we are allowed to do it

[2:06:43] um they have some guidelines and some

[2:06:46] time space separations uh for equipment

[2:06:48] and everything else but with the demand

[2:06:51] for the beef and pork it doesn't make

[2:06:54] any sense to

[2:06:55] deal with that game what type of storage

[2:06:58] are you going to use for your rendering

[2:07:00] dot products that all everything all the

[2:07:03] by-products go into 55-gallon drums

[2:07:06] everything besides the only thing we're

[2:07:08] putting into the to the ground or

[2:07:10] anything else that's great water

[2:07:12] in the blood

[2:07:14] i've got the environmental engineer that

[2:07:16] came out and did the survey of our

[2:07:18] septic system

[2:07:19] and this is the letter that i'm

[2:07:22] resubmitting with the department of

[2:07:23] health to approve our septic system

[2:07:29] it's not bad for the

[2:07:31] liquid protein that's not bad for a

[2:07:33] septic system so we're required to do

[2:07:36] two pump outs a year very simple very

[2:07:39] straightforward um

[2:07:41] in the event there's any issue with that

[2:07:43] our immediate backup is tank and ground

[2:07:46] tank and that'll be treated just like

[2:07:47] the 55 gallon drones um but we already

[2:07:50] have the approval for the scepter system

[2:07:52] i think the ground tank would be

[2:07:54] something we'd have to fight when we

[2:07:55] wanted to expand the capacity

[2:07:57] um

[2:07:59] valley protein

[2:08:01] takes all of that and we have to keep

[2:08:03] that in control temperature

[2:08:05] yes

[2:08:07] so that will stay indoors they do stay

[2:08:09] indoors yes sir and we have to buy a

[2:08:12] contract with them

[2:08:13] the amount they charge us

[2:08:16] for

[2:08:17] uh

[2:08:18] rotten byproducts or spoiled

[2:08:33] um

[2:08:36] thank you very much sir yes sir

[2:08:38] thank you for your time

[2:08:43] do we have anyone signed up to speak no

[2:08:45] sir mr chairman and we did not receive

[2:08:47] any comments before the new deadline

[2:08:49] either

[2:09:02] a second okay any further discussion

[2:09:07] mrs simpson

[2:09:08] roll call vote yes sir mr freeze aye

[2:09:12] mr johnson aye

[2:09:14] mr frazier hi

[2:09:16] mr marshall uh and mr white hi

[2:09:20] i'm secretary

[2:09:24] thank you very much

[2:09:27] you're welcome

[2:09:43] myself for asking the same stupid

[2:09:44] question

[2:09:52] [Music]

[2:10:03] thank you for your special intelligence

[2:10:04] thank you my pleasure thanks for

[2:10:06] watching all right whereas the board of

[2:10:08] supervisors of orange county desires

[2:10:09] discussion closely in the following

[2:10:11] matters

[2:10:12] discussion or consideration the

[2:10:13] acquisition of real property or

[2:10:15] disposition of public behavioral

[2:10:17] property where discussion about the

[2:10:18] meeting would adversely affect the

[2:10:19] bargaining position negotiating strategy

[2:10:21] public body consuming property in

[2:10:23] rhodesville

[2:10:24] consultation with legal counsel employed

[2:10:26] retained by the public buyer regarding

[2:10:27] specifically legal matters appointment

[2:10:29] division legal vice message council

[2:10:30] concerning fireworks

[2:10:32] and whereas pursuant to sections 2.2 37

[2:10:34] 11 8 3 and a 8 are the code remaining

[2:10:36] such discussions may occur in this

[2:10:38] meeting

[2:10:39] now therefore be resolved by the board

[2:10:41] of supervisors of orange county that's

[2:10:42] hereby authorized discussion four state

[2:10:44] matters to close meeting need that is

[2:10:45] emotional

[2:10:48] all in favor all right

[2:10:50] we are included

[2:11:01] yep

[2:11:10] [Music]

[2:11:19] yes

[2:11:29] almost like you know like this is

[2:50:38] cole we're ready to start the live

[2:50:40] stream

[2:50:43] you're good to go

[2:50:46] uh mrs simpson

[2:50:48] yes sir

[2:50:50] absolutely

[2:50:54] members of the board to the best of your

[2:50:56] knowledge were the only matters

[2:50:57] discussed in the closed meeting public

[2:50:59] business matters lawfully exempted from

[2:51:01] open meeting requirements and that only

[2:51:03] such public business matters as were

[2:51:05] identified in the motion by which the

[2:51:07] closed meeting was convened

[2:51:08] were heard discussed or considered in

[2:51:11] the closed meeting

[2:51:12] mr johnson all right

[2:51:15] mr crozier

[2:51:17] mr white hi

[2:51:19] mr marshall

[2:51:21] and mr green all right

[2:51:24] five zero

[2:51:26] entertainment one more voter

[2:51:33] thank you

Orange County, Virginia Board of Supervisors' Worksession & Regular Meeting on May 11, 2021

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