[0:00] Okay, we'll call to order

[0:03] this meeting of your city council, Tuesday, May 19th,

[0:06] 2026.

[0:10] Roll call, please.

[0:12] Let the record show we have a quorum with all council members present.

[0:16] Closed session. Public comments.

[0:18] The public will have an opportunity to directly address the legislative body

[0:22] on the item below prior to the council convening into closed session.

[0:25] Public comments are generally restricted to three minutes.

[0:29] Closed session pursuant to Government Code Section 54957,

[0:33] public employment of the city manager. Do I have any public comments?

[0:38] Online?

[0:40] No. And while no one's talking, so just what we on?

[0:44] So we are going to go into closed session if it's fine.

[0:48] Mayor.

[0:53] We are now going to return to our session.

[0:56] Report from closed session.

[1:03] We will report that under Government Code Section

[1:07] 54957.1, the council has

[1:10] approved a separation agreement in general

[1:14] release with Joseph Goodman by a vote of

[1:18] 5-0. A copy of the executed agreement is available for

[1:21] public inspection in the office of the city clerk.

[1:25] We want to recognize the efforts that Mr.

[1:27] Goodman put in and the value he brought to our

[1:30] community during the time he was here, and we wish him the

[1:34] best and appreciate all that he's done for us.

[1:40] At this time, we will do the Pledge of Allegiance.

[1:44] Luke.

[1:47] I pledge

[1:50] allegiance to the Flag of the United

[1:53] States of America,

[1:55] and to the Republic for which it stands, one

[1:59] Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty

[2:02] and justice for all.

[2:11] Members of the public wishing to address the council

[2:15] on any items not on the agenda may do so at this time when

[2:19] recognized by the mayor. However, no formal action or discussion will be

[2:23] taken unless placed on a future agenda.

[2:26] The public is advised to limit discussion to one presentation per

[2:29] individual, and while not required, please state your name and place of

[2:33] residence for the record.

[2:35] Please direct all your comments to the mayor or vice mayor, not to city staff, nor

[2:39] to the audience. Public comments will be limited to three minutes.

[2:43] Do I have any public comments at this time?

[2:48] Ms.

[2:50] Mayor.

[2:50] Hey.

[2:53] Valerie Thompson with Hidden Treasures Sanctuary and

[2:56] Rescue. Just thank you, Mayor Barr,

[3:00] for coming to our gala. It was a success.

[3:03] We filled up the place and we raised $10,000, which was great.

[3:08] Moving forward, we've got plans this year to really

[3:12] upgrade the sanctuary, do a lot of necessary

[3:16] things. So with that, also the voucher program, we've been

[3:20] going forward with it. With the news of

[3:24] changes here and there, and regardless of that, we

[3:28] are going to continue with the voucher program on our own in the

[3:32] future.

[3:33] Whether the political winds turn whichever

[3:37] way,

[3:38] I would with that like to

[3:41] be placed on the calendar for a

[3:45] discussion to see if we can finalize finally with

[3:49] all the changes with the city council and the members and

[3:54] managers and what have you. I think we've gotten a little lost in the mix on

[3:58] getting it all finalized. We've done

[4:02] 250 spays and neuters so far, just since

[4:06] we've been

[4:09] finalized the use permit, and our surgery room is

[4:13] complete as of this year. And so we're happy about

[4:17] that. So we did submit an invoice to our acting

[4:21] manager, Janet Wackerman. Thank you.

[4:24] And we would like to be on the calendar to see if we can just

[4:29] finalize the fine print on everything we've done.

[4:32] We've crossed all the T's and dotted the I's, so the city clerks in the

[4:36] office would not have to do anything at all, really, except for just

[4:40] sign a check.

[4:42] With that,

[4:43] moving forward, we are really proud of our city of

[4:47] Orange on the stance that they've taken with the

[4:51] humane

[4:52] cap situation problem and as

[4:56] that goes with the county did not go through

[5:00] with their end of it, and that's sad to say.

[5:03] But with that as well, our sheriff,

[5:06] sorry for going over, Megan-

[5:07] Oh, yeah. We're going to have to-

[5:08] Oh, s**t.

[5:09] Is coming in for stepping up for the county instead of

[5:13] supervisors. So with that, I can say that the program's going forward.

[5:17] Very good, and we'll make sure you get on a future agenda.

[5:20] Thank you.

[5:21] Thank you so much for your thoughts and your contribution.

[5:25] Ms. Joanna on it.

[5:32] Thank you so much, Mayor. My name is Joanna Guthrie.

[5:35] I am a resident of Chico.

[5:38] However, I am your representative for waste management

[5:42] here in the Glenn County area.

[5:45] I am less than two months into the job, so I am learning

[5:49] about all of you, your cities, your towns.

[5:53] A quick little rundown on me. I spent the last 25

[5:57] years in local governmentI worked in a rural county in Washington

[6:01] State, and then the last five years, I was working for a smaller city in

[6:05] the state of Arizona.

[6:08] And part of that time I was a solid waste manager, and I did

[6:12] various other roles in public works.

[6:15] So I've been on your side of the table before.

[6:18] I'm new to this side. But I do know solid waste, and I am happy to

[6:22] be available to talk with any of you.

[6:25] I'll be working with Janet, your city manager, that's acting at the

[6:29] moment. And please feel free to reach out at any time if you have any

[6:33] specific questions.

[6:34] Okay. Thank you so much for coming forward and saying hello to all of us.

[6:38] And I'll be getting your information and reaching out to you.

[6:41] I am on the Waste Management liaison for the City of Ormond, and

[6:45] I've got a couple of questions that I'm sure you could easily answer for me, so

[6:49] let's face it, but they're there. Any other public comments tonight?

[6:54] No? Any online?

[6:56] No? Okay. Well, we're going to close the public comment section then.

[7:00] And we will go on to our

[7:04] consent calendar. Public comments are welcome for each

[7:08] agenda item at the time designated by the mayor.

[7:10] Each speaker is limited to one comment per item, with a maximum of three minutes.

[7:15] After the public comment period closes, the council will proceed with its

[7:18] discussion, and attendees are asked to refrain from interruptions or

[7:22] disruptive behavior. A, the warrant list.

[7:25] B, approve city council minutes for May 5th,

[7:28] 2026. C, receive and file Arts Commission minutes

[7:32] from February 18th, 2026.

[7:35] Madam Mayor, sorry to interrupt.

[7:36] Yes.

[7:37] Staff is requesting that you pull, the council pull item D

[7:41] for future consideration as a regular administrative

[7:45] business item, not on consent. We had a slight little miscommunication

[7:49] between governor and I on this, so we can make those corrections.

[7:52] Okay, thank you for that information.

[7:54] E, adoption of the disability retirement designation

[7:58] resolution.

[8:00] F, adoption of the annual solid waste parcel fee resolution.

[8:04] G, consider an MOU with the Ormond Unified School District

[8:08] Student Success Library Card Program.

[8:12] H, receive the April 2026 budget reports, and I,

[8:15] receive the Treasurer's Report for May of 2026.

[8:19] Do I have any public comments on any of these items?

[8:23] Online?

[8:25] No. Okay. Do I have a motion to

[8:29] approve the consent calendar while pulling item D?

[8:32] Madam Chair, if I may.

[8:35] Item I, it says receive your treasurer's report.

[8:38] It makes a reference to a committee.

[8:41] I don't know, I couldn't find out who's on that committee.

[8:44] This is an investment committee that would take funds and invest

[8:48] them in earning of CDs, that sort of thing.

[8:51] I would ask to pull that until we get a report in the future.

[8:54] Okay. So we'll pull item I as well.

[8:59] And then, Madam Mayor, I'd like to pull item H just I've got a few questions

[9:02] regarding the budget.

[9:04] Okay.

[9:08] I would make a motion to adopt the consent calendar with the

[9:12] indications that we've been pulling items D, H, and I from

[9:15] consideration at this time.

[9:18] I'll second the motion.

[9:19] All those in favor?

[9:20] Aye.

[9:21] Opposed?

[9:23] The motion carries.

[9:25] Okay, so D is off the calendar entirely.

[9:28] E, H, shall we discuss the April budget?

[9:32] Yeah, Madam Mayor. I just... Hey, Jen.

[9:34] Just a quick question. I was running through some of those budget numbers, and I

[9:37] saw that parks and meetings, and this could've been a simple question I could have

[9:40] answered earlier, but get a chance to make it to you.

[9:43] But I seen that park maintenance went up 243%,

[9:47] and I don't know if that was another project you got tied in there.

[9:50] I know it's happened before.

[9:51] Yeah. Excuse me. Roberto is online-

[9:54] Okay. No, yeah

[9:54] ... and maybe he can probably answer that better.

[9:57] Okay.

[9:57] Roberto, did you catch his question?

[9:59] Yes.

[10:01] So the

[10:03] parks maintenance is over, the budget is over as far as the

[10:07] financial report is concerned. They're not really technically over, it's just

[10:10] there's some corrections that we're still in the process of making.

[10:13] This is a new system that started this fiscal year from the

[10:17] last one, and we're still working out the bugs.

[10:19] There's some charges that are showing up in the wrong account.

[10:21] We're trying to get everything into the right accounts.

[10:25] Hopefully by the May report, everything will be back in the right account, but

[10:29] we've been working through quite a few adjustments with this new system.

[10:33] And Madam Mayor, just one last question for Roberto then.

[10:36] And then also, too, I noticed for the discrepancy between Measure A and Measure J,

[10:40] where they should be bringing the same amount of money in.

[10:42] Roberto, you know anything about that?

[10:45] Yeah. So,

[10:47] as you know, Measure A used to exist. Measure J replaced it.

[10:51] But for budgeting purposes and talking to staff, it was

[10:55] understood and it was explained to me, and we can certainly change it, that Measure

[10:58] A

[10:59] is the original half cent. Measure J is the additional half cent.

[11:02] Technically, it's 1 cent, but they're keeping Measure A as

[11:06] the original half cent with its stated purpose.

[11:10] As reported in the financial statements, there is no Measure A, but in the

[11:13] financial statements, the original purpose of that first half

[11:17] cent is being kept in one line. Measure J is being tracked

[11:21] separately, which is the other half cent.

[11:23] It's got a different uses in the original Measure A.

[11:27] That's the reason why there's two of them shown, but legally, there's only one

[11:31] Measure J.

[11:33] Are you talking about the income value in

[11:35] Measure

[11:40] J?

[11:40] Maybe I didn't quite hear the question.

[11:42] The four-year almost.

[11:45] Yeah.

[11:47] Or one.

[11:48] Yeah, Roberto, I think you had explained it to us before.

[11:51] It had something to do with when the money came in.

[11:55] I think that's what-

[11:57] Oh, in the current year's budget, you mean?

[12:00] Yeah.

[12:00] Yeah, the revenue... Oh, I was thinking, sorry.

[12:02] I have '26, '27 budget in my mind. In the current budget

[12:06] Measure-J is less because it did not have a

[12:10] full year's worth. It didn't have a full year where Measure A was in

[12:14] place for the full year, and that was kind of a guesstimate at the very beginning.

[12:19] Now we do have a more solid number for next year.

[12:22] And as you can tell when you look at the revenues, Measure J is coming stronger

[12:25] than was originally anticipated.

[12:29] Yeah. I think because it passed in November, it didn't go into effect until

[12:33] April or something of June. I know about sales tax, that's why.

[12:36] So it'll be a full-

[12:37] Yeah

[12:38] ... a year.

[12:38] Yeah, I mean, you start receiving money in June, and then you obviously-

[12:41] And then it took a while for you to come in.

[12:42] Okay.

[12:43] Yeah.

[12:43] And then other than that, you have any other questions?

[12:46] No other questions from council members. Any other questions, Alex?

[12:50] Roberto.

[12:51] Try to make it.

[12:52] On the budget that you provided.

[12:55] Yes, I do have a question.

[12:56] Okay.

[12:57] Roberto, what is your last name? I'm brand new here.

[13:00] Moreno.

[13:02] Very nice to meet you, Mr. Moreno. I'm Wade Elliott.

[13:04] I'm a new member of the council, first time we've met, so I'm so glad to have made

[13:08] your acquaintance tonight. I just want to make sure I'm understanding, and if not

[13:12] for me, maybe for the public. Measure J, Measure A, these are

[13:16] both taxpayer-approved, right? These were

[13:19] voter-approved taxes on our sales tax. Is that correct?

[13:24] Yes.

[13:26] Even though there were intentions that were put into the language that we voted on,

[13:30] were any of the funds required to be restricted?

[13:34] Technically, no, because if they were technically

[13:37] required, then it would be a special tax

[13:40] that has a two-thirds majority vote. It's a general tax.

[13:44] It's subject to the council's discretion, but council has chosen to

[13:48] follow a certain direction as to how the money should be spent.

[13:52] So that is my understanding as well.

[13:56] And you've looked at these two systems and the transition.

[14:00] Had there been a practice in the past of carefully

[14:04] identifying the Measure J and Measure A funds for designated

[14:08] purposes as you described prior?

[14:13] I just started this about a year ago, and

[14:16] so what was done in the past is only what I've been provided, which was the

[14:20] Measure A, a list of projects and how it's been spent in the past.

[14:24] Right.

[14:25] And then there's what was the language in the ordinance as to what it was intended

[14:28] to be used for.

[14:31] Is it your read as you've looked at some of the numbers that discretion was

[14:35] used with those funds outside of those definitions by previous

[14:39] councils?

[14:41] Everything that I've seen was spent based on what was in the ordinance

[14:45] of public safety, streets-

[14:48] Okay

[14:49] ... and ambulance now.

[14:51] I appreciate that. Thank you for that clarification.

[14:53] And again, thank you for reporting to us tonight.

[14:56] And, Mr. Mayor, I do have one question. All right.

[14:59] A quick question, again, so I mean, probably figures, kind of makes it sound

[15:02] like we're not holding our end of the deal for Measure J and for the citizens.

[15:07] We'll use that and we'll get broken for this.

[15:09] So I do want to say I appreciate that, but we're still

[15:13] keeping track of it, just like-

[15:16] Yeah.

[15:16] Yes.

[15:17] I trust you guys on that one. Roberto, not to throw you under the bus, buddy, but

[15:20] this community will set you, me, and everybody else on fire if we don't hold it up

[15:23] to the letter of the law. Yes, it's a general fund measure on a two-thirds

[15:27] majority special measure, but yeah, the community takes that very,

[15:31] very seriously. So I want to make sure that I understand what you're saying in

[15:35] terms of a general fund issue, but we just want to make sure general fund money is

[15:39] not getting funneled out of Measure J, or there can be a lot

[15:43] of problems around here, so. But thank you for that. Thank you, Jen.

[15:46] Well, again, I only have one other question.

[15:49] When I'm looking at impact fees revenues, we have

[15:52] transportation, public safety, city hall, water system, sewer system,

[15:56] library, park land, park improvements, capital maintenance,

[16:00] and recreational facilities. And then there are

[16:03] numbers

[16:05] totaling $312,000 on the current or on the

[16:09] fiscal activity for the year. So these are fees that we have

[16:13] collected that have been allocated to each piece departments, is that

[16:16] correct?

[16:19] So each fee is collected based on the ordinance.

[16:22] It can only be used specifically for these items, so they are all

[16:26] being tracked.

[16:29] This money has been collected. The fiscal activity is

[16:32] year-to-date on active building permits.

[16:35] Permits are issued for development within the city,

[16:39] and they are each tracked, and they can only be spent on specific items.

[16:43] I'm not sure if I answered the question.

[16:45] I'm trying to understand. The Arts Council

[16:48] funding comes from a designation from impact fees,

[16:52] and I don't see the Arts Council listed here.

[16:55] Why were they not included as one of those impact recipients?

[16:58] Okay, so this part of the impact

[17:02] fees is subject to state law and what

[17:06] it goes through. These are impact fees per state law.

[17:09] The Arts Commission fee that you're talking about-

[17:12] Okay

[17:13] ... that one is not based on

[17:15] state law. That is an extra fee that was set up by council.

[17:21] When the person takes out the permit, all of these fees are set up, and

[17:25] then there's an extra fee below the impact fees that's

[17:29] for the Arts Commission. It's called an impact fee, but it's

[17:33] not an impact fee in the true sense of the word.

[17:36] The way all of these are subject to state legislation as to how they can

[17:40] be used and how they can be collected.

[17:42] The other one is

[17:44] not. It's a city set ordinance.

[17:48] Okay. But since it's a city ordinance, then it doesn't need to be reported on what

[17:51] we're looking with revenues.

[17:53] Right.

[17:53] It's 300 and some thousand in impact fees to these

[17:56] various things that are stayed, but is there another category

[18:00] somewhere that shows what the Arts Council should have been?

[18:04] Yes.

[18:05] Okay.

[18:05] Yes, there is.

[18:07] What

[18:08] you received here is the funds that were

[18:11] budgetedThe Arts Commission funds were not

[18:15] budgeted. They are being tracked, they're being reported on separately, but they

[18:19] were not budgeted. Now, we can certainly add them to this

[18:22] budget.

[18:24] It's just that there was no set dollar amounts.

[18:26] It was just whatever they had on hand.

[18:28] For next year, for 26/27, there will definitely be a budget

[18:32] for the Arts Commission

[18:35] based on some estimates as to what might come in for the Arts

[18:39] Commission. But they are there, they are being tracked, they're just not reported

[18:42] here. But we can certainly add them.

[18:46] Okay, I just want to make sure that those are being tracked and that the-

[18:48] Yes

[18:49] ... arts grants being comprised of any monies that are due them under...

[18:53] It's one of the items on tonight's agenda we can talk about more there.

[18:56] That I just, when I saw these impact fees and didn't see their name,

[19:00] I'm still trying to learn the processes here. Thank you.

[19:03] Any other questions from the council?

[19:05] Yeah, if I could, Madam, just through the chair.

[19:07] Again, Roberto, just for clarification, I don't want to leave this one unsaid.

[19:12] These funds have been collected as they come in.

[19:14] They're based on applicants, right?

[19:17] So they're not based on some easily predictable number.

[19:19] If there are no applicants, there are no fees.

[19:22] Also, in the ordinance, there are exemptions from that fee.

[19:25] Was that correct?

[19:27] Yes, it is.

[19:28] It is, because I've read the ordinance.

[19:29] So there could be an actual development where that fee does not

[19:33] appear on their fee schedule because it's an exempt

[19:37] entity. For example, if a nonprofit were

[19:41] to construct.

[19:42] Okay. Awesome.

[19:44] There you go. So it is entirely possible that you could have

[19:48] activity in the community where that particular

[19:51] fee is not assessed. Also, I don't know so much about

[19:55] budgeting this unless it's an actual line item budget.

[19:58] This is actually, if I understood it, and it's been around for a while,

[20:02] this was an effort by prior councils to show their support for

[20:06] arts in our community, and we've appreciated what they've done and are still

[20:10] doing. And so we think that the real

[20:14] wagon we've hitched to here, which is development, was probably at least

[20:18] originally the right

[20:20] wagon to hitch to. If future councils decide that

[20:24] isn't the way to do it, and so that it's not dependent on

[20:27] applications, it's not dependent, that would be a brand-new decision

[20:31] for the Council of May. So I've got that all right, right, Roberto?

[20:36] Perfect.

[20:38] You got it.

[20:38] Right?

[20:40] Yeah, so I think that would be maybe what we'll actually discuss

[20:43] tonight, whether or not that's what the Arts Commission is actually asking

[20:47] for-

[20:48] Yeah

[20:48] ... is a different approach to how they're funded.

[20:50] Thank you.

[20:51] Okay, any other questions by council on the budget?

[20:56] All right, we will return it to the consent calendar,

[21:00] as well as the treasurer's report that you had a question about.

[21:04] Yeah, I'll wait for another report.

[21:06] It's not appropriate tonight to try to ask somebody like Letty who's not here what

[21:11] is going on. The people I've asked haven't been able to tell me who's on that

[21:13] investment committee. I don't think it's a big deal.

[21:16] I think we could accept her report at a future meeting, and obviously, she can

[21:20] flesh that out for us to my satisfaction, I'm sure.

[21:23] Okay. So we are going to then approve item

[21:28] H.

[21:29] We've had a motion. We've had a second.

[21:32] We've had-

[21:33] Richard, did you approve?

[21:34] Not on this. So we pulled H and I, so if you could do a

[21:38] joint motion, we could-

[21:39] We pulled D, H, and I.

[21:41] Correct. D, H, and I.

[21:42] And that was the motion we made.

[21:44] Correct.

[21:44] That was second.

[21:45] Now the issue is whether your approval of H and

[21:49] I is separate than that.

[21:51] Yeah.

[21:51] Yeah, outside, since we pulled it, they weren't approved.

[21:55] So now it's just a motion to accept.

[21:58] So if I may, I'll go ahead and move. My question's been answered by

[22:02] Roberto. I'll move to approve an H and add on the consent

[22:05] calendar as was said.

[22:07] Okay, a motion to be seconded. Officer Bigger? Oh, second.

[22:11] Second.

[22:11] Okay.

[22:12] Are you approving I, because I thought we were bringing it back?

[22:15] Yeah, just kind of a point of order here.

[22:17] We're not required to adopt everything on the consent calendar.

[22:20] No.

[22:21] I think the council's made it clear there are three items of concern.

[22:24] There's no point in accepting a budget that's not clear.

[22:28] We're hearing that in May we have a better budget report.

[22:31] I would not support approving a budget report that we know

[22:34] isn't going to be the one that's accurate. So I think we can...

[22:38] I mean, do whatever you want, but I'm going to vote no

[22:41] on approving H or I because we've already decided

[22:46] those items are not appropriate to consent to tonight,

[22:50] and that's all we're talking.

[22:51] Okay.

[22:52] Agree.

[22:53] So this requires no further motion-

[22:55] No

[22:55] ... since it's been pulled then?

[22:56] It's up to the council.

[22:57] Yeah.

[22:59] It's just us.

[23:00] Okay, just our table.

[23:01] It's up to the council.

[23:02] Welcome back.

[23:03] Yeah. Just-

[23:04] Continue from where we-

[23:05] The eight people

[23:06] ... Yeah.

[23:08] Mr. Mayor. Sorry. Actually, I would like for staff on

[23:13] item 8B for the

[23:16] districting,

[23:17] ask the council to consider adding language for-

[23:21] Mm-hmm

[23:22] ... the use of independent redistricting commission to map out future

[23:26] maps.

[23:27] I know Orland has been pretty, I feel like has been pretty well

[23:31] in keeping national politics out of

[23:35] what we do here.

[23:37] So I feel like

[23:39] adding that extra step so that when future districting maps come

[23:43] about, we don't kind of fight over that.

[23:46] And so if we use an independent redistricting commission, that'll

[23:49] keep choosing the maps or

[23:54] it'll allow the voters to choose their league instead of us up here

[23:57] choosing who our voters league will be.

[24:00] So-

[24:01] Okay. So-

[24:01] So if I could suggest-

[24:03] Sure

[24:03] ... yeah, a way to kind of address that.

[24:05] Yeah.

[24:05] I think that's a good... One of the reasons why I want to put this on for regular

[24:08] business, so what we can do is put it on.

[24:11] There isn't really a rush now that we're going to wait.

[24:13] Right.

[24:14] So we'll put this on, and then we can have that discussion.

[24:16] Sure. I just wanted to make sure so we don't-

[24:18] Thank you

[24:18] ... go to that discussion and then-

[24:19] Go-

[24:19] ... wait for that.

[24:20] Yeah. Yeah.

[24:21] Thank you.

[24:22] Okay. Thank you.

[24:24] Okay, administrative business. Council accomplishments, reports, and

[24:27] commissions.

[24:29] We just have our list of reports and commissions.

[24:31] Yeah, we approved ours.

[24:35] Yeah.

[24:36] Two weeks

[24:38] ago.

[24:38] And as was said,

[24:41] previous appointments were made in April

[24:45] after Mr. Romal left the council. At this

[24:49] point in time, are there any changes that anyone would like to

[24:53] suggest? Any

[24:56] new appointments or anyone on any of the appointments that they'd like to

[25:01] discuss or change?

[25:05] Well, I have one for the Golden

[25:09] State GRSK team.

[25:10] I guess the meeting that I went to last week was the last one

[25:14] for that seat, and I guess it's moving to Crescent City, so they'll get a

[25:18] seat.

[25:19] Mm.

[25:20] We don't want-

[25:20] Yeah. Let's go with mine.

[25:22] Yeah.

[25:25] Okay. Anything else?

[25:28] No.

[25:28] No. How about you, John?

[25:30] No. I'm fine.

[25:31] Okay.

[25:32] So I'm the new guy here, literally first meeting,

[25:36] so I know there would be some expectation that I would look for one of these where

[25:40] I may serve. And I will, in a future time, do that.

[25:43] Right now, what I've focused my time on is I've met with the four department

[25:47] heads,

[25:48] to get the lay of the land. I think eventually I'll get to see where

[25:52] these additional responsibilities fall and where I can be of some

[25:56] help. But I'd let the mayor know when we talk about this, that I'll be here to

[26:00] help. I'm just not ready to commit to one of those commissions tonight.

[26:04] Okay.

[26:07] That leaves me, and I have a pretty hefty schedule that

[26:11] is hard. I was explaining to Wade

[26:15] that

[26:16] trying to be effective with this many that I'm trying to learn,

[26:20] as well as keep up with on a monthly basis, has been a little

[26:24] overwhelming for me. I literally

[26:27] am on 13 different committees.

[26:31] Many of those are monthly. Some of them are every other

[26:35] month. But I am hoping that at least one

[26:39] other member here would be willing to take one of them from me.

[26:43] The ones that regularly meet are Arts, Library,

[26:47] and Waste Management, the Groundwater

[26:50] Sustainability Agency.

[26:53] And I'd like to keep Arts, but if there is another member

[26:57] here that might be able to step forward and take the Groundwater

[27:01] Sustainability or the Waste Management, that would really help.

[27:05] Is there anybody here that might be able to take that?

[27:08] Mayor, just to help you out on the Groundwater, too, once we have

[27:12] Zach here, we can always send him your project, have him be

[27:16] put for that.

[27:17] That's it. Need an appointment, though.

[27:19] I find that each time I try to change something, I have to go to county

[27:23] City Selection Committee.

[27:25] Because they're already assigned.

[27:26] We have, I think we have a seat there, and then Zach, as well.

[27:30] So I remember that we dealt with that last time.

[27:33] Okay.

[27:33] So that'll help you out there. And then other than that,

[27:36] obviously you have your stuff you like.

[27:38] If you could wait just a meeting or so, because then

[27:43] Wade will figure out where he wants to help us out, too, because I'm looking at it

[27:46] here thinking,

[27:48] "Yeah, let's see what you like."

[27:50] They were good in it. Okay. Well, Zach, if you-

[27:54] Mayor, I think I need to verify with the

[27:57] county first to make sure it's not one of

[28:01] the council members, because he is staff.

[28:04] I just want to verify first with Zach, okay?

[28:07] Sure.

[28:07] Yeah, I don't know, so I need to verify.

[28:08] I think we have-

[28:09] Yeah. Okay

[28:10] ...

[28:11] to be

[28:13] discussing further.

[28:15] I think it's worth it. He

[28:18] likes.

[28:19] Okay.

[28:19] Okay?

[28:20] Okay. We're doing that for now. We'll move on to the next

[28:24] one for proposed SB 1 funded project, road repair and

[28:28] accountability, Paul Ravo, Public Works.

[28:34] Good evening, Mayor, council members.

[28:37] We've got a report here

[28:40] that we bring up every single year.

[28:42] It's for the use of Senate Bill 1, Road

[28:46] Repair and Accountability Act of 2017 funds.

[28:51] This was passed by the state legislature, signed into law,

[28:55] and essentially they

[28:58] set aside a certain amount of funding each year for every

[29:02] agency, and then that money is used towards

[29:06] projects that we want to get done. And it's

[29:09] specifically road. It's not trying to

[29:14] beautify, like the bee sculptures or something like that on I-5.

[29:18] So,

[29:19] we put together a list of projects that are found in the

[29:23] resolution there,

[29:25] items 2A through I. And

[29:29] the funds can be used for construction,

[29:33] putting in curb, gutter, sidewalk,

[29:36] roadway rehabilitation.

[29:39] We've also used it in the past for design services

[29:43] and construction management.

[29:46] Anything related to construction,

[29:48] and roadways specifically.

[29:52] So the projects that are listed here came out of the

[29:55] pavement management program that the county helped us prepare.

[30:00] And this is the starting point. I think in years past,

[30:04] some council members have had thoughts on other streets that they wanted to

[30:08] see done. This is just where I start with these

[30:12] projects, because it's

[30:14] kind of founded, as far as the roads have been assessed

[30:17] and

[30:19] a certain quality has been determined for them and,

[30:23] yeah. It gives me the starting point.

[30:24] So if-If there's any questions

[30:28] about those projects, I'd be happy to answer.

[30:32] If there's

[30:33] no comments or any questions,

[30:35] then we recommend you adopt the

[30:39] resolution, because then we have to upload it to the state-

[30:42] Yeah

[30:43] ... for them to know what we plan on doing and how we're going to use the funds.

[30:47] It's a part of their transparency. So.

[30:51] And then only the SB1 funds would be used for the

[30:54] maintenance and rehabilitation of the roadways. Yeah.

[31:01] Public comment, yes.

[31:02] Public comment on the SB1 discussion.

[31:07] Online?

[31:09] No.

[31:11] Okay. Council?

[31:13] Good.

[31:14] Casey.

[31:14] A few questions.

[31:16] These eight streets that

[31:20] you've listed, could they use up the entirety of the 244,000?

[31:26] It's possible. It just depends on how we get

[31:31] what we get for bids-

[31:32] Yeah

[31:32] ... when we put them out. But-

[31:34] Those are just our shower guys table?

[31:37] Well, when I chose them, I try to choose them in a fashion, because

[31:41] this here has a lovely breakdown of what this

[31:45] consultant thought all the costs would be for each project.

[31:48] Mm-hmm.

[31:48] And I kind of adjusted a little bit for increasing construction

[31:52] costs. And so I do my best to come

[31:56] close to what the funds are that we have available.

[32:00] Thanks. And then I have a question about

[32:05] one of the streets you recommended, was recommended to

[32:09] have a rubberized cape seal or rubberized cape.

[32:13] Mm-hmm.

[32:14] Yeah, that was-

[32:15] What does that entail?

[32:17] So, most of the projects on here are a crack seal and

[32:21] then a slurry seal, so they go through...

[32:24] You've probably seen public works out there, right?

[32:26] And they just put some sealer and some cracks and

[32:30] hopefully you don't get water in there breaking the roadway apart further.

[32:33] And then they do a slurry seal, which is just like a-

[32:37] Mm-hmm

[32:37] ... essentially looks like they're painting the road black, right?

[32:40] And then they re-stripe it. The rubberized cape seal

[32:44] is just a heavier duty version of a slurry seal.

[32:48] Are these all just... I'm fixated on the

[32:52] rubberized keyword. Are they all polymers?

[32:55] Are they all plastics?

[32:56] Um-

[32:57] I guess rubber?

[32:59] The crack sealing and

[33:01] the-

[33:02] It's kind of a bituminous thing.

[33:04] For the crack sealing and the slurry seal it's

[33:08] a petroleum kind of bituminous product.

[33:11] The rubberized cape, it's not like we're putting

[33:15] down a layer of rubber, it's just some of the

[33:19] material. It's like a Caltrans specification

[33:23] on materials that are used within that product.

[33:27] And so it's not like it's 100% rubber and we're going to be bouncing down the

[33:31] road, right?

[33:31] Right.

[33:32] It's just a small amount.

[33:34] Yeah.

[33:34] It's like, technically, say, if you're using a recycled asphalt

[33:38] pavement, they're using just a small portion.

[33:42] It's not the full thing, so.

[33:44] And how much better is that versus crack sealing or-

[33:49] Well, so the crack sealing and the slurry seal are

[33:53] for roads that

[33:56] are still in fairly good shape, and we're just trying to prevent them from falling

[34:00] apart. And I think in here, we have the estimated

[34:03] lifespans. Those crack seal and slurries are about a

[34:07] five to eight year

[34:09] timeframe. And so, you kind of stay ahead of the game.

[34:12] That's kind of your preventative maintenance.

[34:14] The rubberized cape seal means maybe the road is a little bit less

[34:19] condition or worse condition.

[34:21] Yeah.

[34:22] And so you're just trying to give it that little extra oomph

[34:25] that the slurry seal can't do. And

[34:28] then you get to the other end and you're redoing the complete road

[34:32] because it's been too long. And so the

[34:36] slurry seal and the cape seal are a form of preventative maintenance.

[34:40] Okay. The main reason I ask is I keep seeing more and more

[34:43] studies about microplastics-

[34:45] Mm-hmm

[34:45] ... in the environment, and the rubberized seal being an

[34:49] additional microplastic that will eventually leach into our

[34:52] waters.

[34:55] So

[34:56] if it doesn't provide too much extra

[34:59] usefulness to the road, I'd rather you avoid using that, unless

[35:03] you feel that it is

[35:06] equivalent to slurry sealing or crack

[35:10] sealing,

[35:11] or the same as having someone burning up.

[35:16] Well, we can

[35:18] always visit the method.

[35:21] I guess for right now,

[35:25] just to use the funds, we have to say these are the projects and if we

[35:30] can take a look at that, and if we go, "Hey, rubberized

[35:33] is something we can

[35:36] avoid using that on that particular road, and we can use this other method,"

[35:40] then we can definitely look into that.

[35:42] That's all good. Thank you.

[35:43] Mm-hmm.

[35:43] Ben.

[35:44] I would move to adopt resolution 2026

[35:48] next in line and authorize the city manager as designee to submit to the

[35:51] California Transportation Commission, the city's

[35:54] 2026-27 SB1 project list.

[35:58] We're really getting the backbone questions. Great job, big brother.

[36:01] Hey, just a quick end point. So we're talking about last week's.

[36:05] I know. Amy,

[36:07] what's up with the... Is the bridge going to get done on Shasta that crosses in

[36:11] Brian, basically? Or are they just going to stop there

[36:13] at...

[36:17] Because-

[36:18] Because you don't like that bridge?

[36:20] Yeah, because we keep bottleneck right here with it being fired, and I'm getting

[36:23] tired of having the public trying to leave while we're trying to get in, and God

[36:25] loves them for leaving, but I'm getting interested in that.

[36:28] But my question is, is that part of the budget? That's all.

[36:32] It is currently included in the Shasta Street project, yes.

[36:36] Okay.

[36:36] And so this-By putting it

[36:39] on this list, we would be taking the approach that we did on Tehama,

[36:44] and that would be we're using the SB1 funds to help

[36:47] us with the design, the environmental, some of those preliminary and

[36:51] design portions, because then the construction money is a

[36:55] different funding source.

[36:57] Right.

[36:57] And we would like to use all of that construction

[37:00] money.

[37:01] We need to break it down at least.

[37:04] We only get 20 years worth. That's just pretty much the way that it shapes for

[37:08] everything they have funded. My only thing is we're going to be building houses

[37:10] all. We've already talked about it.

[37:12] Yep.

[37:12] But if we can just make sure that gets at least designed or something.

[37:15] Yeah.

[37:16] Because, yeah, nothing we can do this year.

[37:17] It's on the wish list, I think.

[37:19] It's got the approval.

[37:20] My only question is that,

[37:23] it references the city uses its existing budget

[37:27] together with the SB1 funds. Does that mean the budget that we have for

[37:30] 2026, '27 that we're creating now, or should we have

[37:34] funds left over from '25, '26? Where are we going to get the money to pay our

[37:38] portion of this? Do we have an idea?

[37:41] What portion? What do you mean by portion?

[37:43] I think it's-

[37:44] Well, it says we have to use our existing budget with the

[37:47] SB1 funds to do these

[37:51] projects.

[37:52] Because this always goes in the budget. That's what...

[37:56] Yeah. So,

[37:59] I guess what I would say is sometimes there is a potential that,

[38:03] depending on how the bids come in, that the SB1

[38:07] funds can't cover all of the projects that

[38:11] we want to do. And we can make the decision at

[38:15] that time that, hey, we're only going to do six of the eight projects

[38:19] and that-

[38:20] Then we can adjust that. It's not a sharing thing.

[38:22] We don't have the money unless you put in your own portion.

[38:25] No.

[38:26] Okay.

[38:26] As far as I know, yeah, this funding does not require a match from the

[38:30] local agency.

[38:32] Okay. Just making sure. Thank you.

[38:33] Mm-hmm.

[38:33] I think that's all. Vote for it. We may found a motion.

[38:36] I made the motion.

[38:37] Yes.

[38:37] We're just waiting for a second.

[38:38] Second the motion.

[38:40] Okay, motion has been seconded. All those in favor?

[38:43] Aye.

[38:45] Aye.

[38:46] Motion carried.

[38:48] All right. Going to move to the Arts Commission finance.

[38:52] Janet Blackmer.

[38:53] Thank you, Mayor and city council members.

[38:56] So,

[38:57] the Arts Commission was created by the Oregon Municipal Code,

[39:01] and as determined by the language in the code, they receive one quarter

[39:05] of 1% of any revenue from qualified building permits.

[39:10] And as we alluded to earlier, that means something that gets

[39:13] federal funding or like the self-help homes,

[39:17] they

[39:18] would not be required to contribute to the Arts Commission fund.

[39:23] And so again, a monthly report is compiled, and has been

[39:27] since the beginning, and it's submitted to the Arts Commission for their review

[39:31] at a public hearing. Now,

[39:34] in a recent audit of the commission's financial status, it

[39:38] was determined that the revenue amount reported to the commission did not

[39:42] match what was in the city's financial program.

[39:45] So because of this, the commission found their balance to be such

[39:48] amount, which is approximately 5,000.

[39:52] I can't give you to date, because I know some funds have been coming in.

[39:56] But they had to review their expenses going forward.

[39:59] Moreover, upon review of future city projects, and that's when I allude

[40:03] to

[40:04] when things are being constructed, and we are seeing houses being built, that those

[40:08] are the self-help houses.

[40:09] Yeah.

[40:09] So they're not charged an assessment.

[40:12] So,

[40:13] when we looked at that, it was determined that additional revenues could not be

[40:17] expected in the near future.

[40:19] So at their meeting, at the Arts Commission's meeting of May 6th, a few

[40:23] expenses were eliminated, and a means of building

[40:27] revenues were discussed. And the commission proposes to create a

[40:31] GoFundMe page, and that was at the time of this agenda, to collect revenue to

[40:34] make up for the shortfall. We don't have any recommendation

[40:39] of... It's just purely to let you know what's the status of the Arts

[40:43] Commission at this point.

[40:44] You have any questions?

[40:49] Okay. Now I'll open it to public comment.

[40:59] Okay. Any online?

[41:02] No.

[41:02] Nobody.

[41:04] Jill.

[41:05] My

[41:05] name

[41:11] is Jill Elliott. I am on the Orland Arts Commission.

[41:14] I live here in town. I was-

[41:16] Jill, could you please speak into for those people online?

[41:20] Thank you.

[41:22] I just wanted

[41:23] it to be noted that the amount our

[41:28] account was reduced by was $24,000.

[41:31] Oh.

[41:33] So it has left us in a

[41:37] sudden

[41:39] lurch. So I just wanted that to be brought

[41:43] forward.

[41:45] And

[41:46] it's a lot of money.

[41:49] Yeah. So

[41:51] I just wanted you to know.

[41:55] I think I have a question for you.

[41:56] Okay.

[41:56] And thank you for being here.

[41:58] Right.

[41:58] I want to make sure I understand.

[42:00] Does the Arts Commission get a number

[42:04] projected from the city

[42:06] that you were operating on, and then the number didn't come out right

[42:10] because we didn't have enough projects that committed to it or?

[42:13] There was no projection. We did-

[42:15] How did the shortfall happen?

[42:17] There was a review,

[42:20] how Janet explained it,

[42:22] and the main

[42:26] accounting system with this city did not

[42:32] relate to our monthly financial

[42:35] report that we get from Leti. And so,

[42:39] it was determined that there had been an

[42:42] erroneous or just a mistaken

[42:46] entry back in 2022 that gave usUm,

[42:51] an impact fee of $24,000, um, and

[42:55] some change. And so that was carried along on

[42:59] the financial report since 2022, but then about a month ago,

[43:03] it came to light that that was a mistake.

[43:06] And so-

[43:08] Boy, that's a big one, huh?

[43:09] Yeah.

[43:10] Yeah.

[43:10] It's-

[43:11] So were those funds actually transferred, or they were just on your

[43:14] budget as expected?

[43:16] They were

[43:21] added to our financial report as a

[43:26] incoming-

[43:26] As an asset

[43:27] ... fee. Yes, as an asset.

[43:29] Okay.

[43:29] But it was really, the number was

[43:33] not a real number. It was just a, um, running

[43:37] balance or something that just got added in by mistake and

[43:41] had, um, no connection to anything.

[43:45] Mm-hmm.

[43:46] Um, but we just didn't know because it said an impact fee, and at the time we were

[43:50] getting a lot of impact fees.

[43:53] Yeah.

[43:53] The city, you know, the city what's in 2022.

[43:57] It helps to know that, understand that. Thank you.

[44:00] You're welcome.

[44:02] You wanted to make the other kind of mistake.

[44:04] What do you think?

[44:05] You're getting money you didn't know that.

[44:07] Or you think you're getting money,

[44:09] whatever.

[44:11] So, anyways, um, I don't know if anybody have any other question.

[44:15] Has the GoFundMe page been created?

[44:17] No. Not that I'm aware of. This just, um, because it

[44:20] happened just a month ago or so, we've just been,

[44:25] um, trying to decide what to do because we have

[44:29] certain expenses every month, like our rent and heat we

[44:33] need.

[44:33] Mm-hmm.

[44:34] And all of a sudden we literally have about $5,000

[44:37] available, and our monthly expenses are, you know,

[44:41] just to keep the lights on and the rent are $1,000, and that's it go.

[44:45] A short window.

[44:46] Very short window.

[44:48] Mm-hmm.

[44:49] Yes. But we have put a call out and we're trying to do what we

[44:53] can.

[44:58] Thank you.

[44:59] Thank you.

[45:01] Thank you.

[45:03] My name's Janet Jonday. When I first moved to

[45:06] Orland and saw the Art Center, I was so

[45:10] amazed that a town this size would have an Art Center.

[45:15] Such an incredible

[45:20] display

[45:22] and art from farther away. It's really wonderful.

[45:26] So

[45:27] I hope that we as a community can join together and

[45:31] find a way to continue to support the Arts Commission.

[45:34] I know they do more than just manage the Art

[45:38] Center. Uh,

[45:40] I feel I've been a recipient of the bounty that

[45:44] Art Center and the Arts Commission has provided.

[45:48] And I would be happy to

[45:50] donate to the GoFundMe.

[45:53] Um, hearing Valerie talk about the gala that raised money for,

[45:58] for her animal, uh, spay and neuter surg- surgical

[46:02] center.

[46:03] There must be many ideas we could come up with to, um,

[46:08] as a community,

[46:09] put the word out and, and have some kind of celebration of the arts

[46:13] that could bring in money that kind of thing.

[46:16] So, um, I'm

[46:17] willing to do my part and I hope that we can find a

[46:20] way to rectify the situation.

[46:24] Thank you.

[46:28] Hello, Ray.

[46:29] Hello.

[46:29] Thank you for coming out.

[46:31] You're welcome. Tell me if you can hear me in the back.

[46:35] Yes, ma'am.

[46:37] Uh, we

[46:38] have already asked our patrons. One of the ways

[46:42] we generate our own income is to have

[46:46] people pay $50 a year, and they

[46:50] become a patron of the arts. We have already

[46:53] approached them and told them we are in dire straits

[46:57] through no fault of our own, and through a

[47:01] mistake that

[47:02] was not found for four years, we find

[47:06] ourselves in a very awkward position.

[47:10] We would have to close our doors,

[47:13] and we know that the community does not want that.

[47:18] Um,

[47:19] the biggest expense that we have, and would need help

[47:23] with, possibly if the city could help us with

[47:27] that, is our electric bill.

[47:30] It's huge, and we all know what those electric

[47:34] bills are like. If the city could find

[47:38] a way to just take our electrics bill, we

[47:42] could manage the rest of it.

[47:45] Um, I realize this is not a good time

[47:49] to ask the city to help us, because the city has

[47:53] its own problems of being over budget, et cetera.

[47:57] We're not looking for handouts.

[48:01] Although we are asking for them, and we have already had

[48:05] many people contributing,

[48:08] uh, and saying, "We want this to stay." So

[48:12] realistically, we know that we bring something to the

[48:15] city that it doesn't have without us, and that doesn't

[48:19] count all of the special projects that we've done.

[48:23] We want to keep going forward.

[48:25] Anything that the city could come up with to help us

[48:29] would be appreciated.

[48:32] So that's basically it, and if you have any questions for me,

[48:36] I'd be happy to answer them.

[48:38] Thank you very much.

[48:40] Thank you, Ray.

[48:42] Steve.

[48:47] Hi there. I'm Steve Elliot. Uh, I'm an Arts Commission- Arts Commissioner, and I

[48:51] also am a citizen of Orland.

[48:55] The Arts Commission doesn't have their own money.

[48:58] Our funds come from the

[49:01] city. So even the donations that we make

[49:05] essentially go into the city coffers.

[49:08] It's just that we have an accounting of our

[49:12] own, keeping track of the money that we spend and what we

[49:16] bring in. So

[49:18] yeah, those numbers,

[49:21] they're just on paper. They're not money in the bank.

[49:25] So that money never existed. So the problem, the real

[49:29] pinch is that,

[49:32] if we had known a year ago the position that we were in, we could have

[49:36] made

[49:38] provisions to keep ourselves going.

[49:40] But this came up so suddenly and left us with so

[49:44] little that we're scrambling to get donations

[49:48] and things like that,

[49:50] just so that the obligations that we have...

[49:52] We have a show that's running right now that's supposed to run through-

[49:58] June

[49:59] ... June. And we're not even sure we're going to have the door open for that one.

[50:03] We have a big show planned for July.

[50:05] And we don't want to see the doors closed at all, but

[50:11] we've put a lot of work into

[50:13] what's happening and what will happen in the gallery.

[50:16] So I don't know what the answer is, but just want to let you know what our

[50:20] position is.

[50:21] Thank you, Steve.

[50:24] Okay, do we have other

[50:27] comments on this?

[50:30] Yes, ma'am.

[50:32] Real quick question. You mentioned about the electric bill.

[50:37] How much is it?

[50:39] I would defer that to Jill, who's previously been the treasurer for

[50:43] the commission. The question is, how much is the electric bill

[50:47] a month?

[50:50] About $50 per month. Like in July, maybe it's

[50:54] $1,200 and it just ebbs and flows month by month.

[50:58] Yeah. The summertime is the worst, but that's also some of the best

[51:02] time for their shows because we have downtown and pickups happening

[51:06] and things.

[51:07] I just thought if we had that

[51:08] figure in mind, maybe it would

[51:11] give us some idea.

[51:12] Okay. Thank you. I think from, I'm the liaison with the

[51:16] Arts Commission, and I think our discussions

[51:20] led to it being probably an average of $1,000 a month.

[51:23] When you take the months that aren't quite so bad and then you add the months that

[51:27] are summer months and the air conditioning's running, it runs about $1,000 a month.

[51:31] Between $800 and $1,000 a month, somewhere in there.

[51:35] Roland Knight, Economic Development Commission.

[51:38] I don't know what the roof looks like over there, but possibly throwing some solar

[51:41] panels helps offset some of that electric bill. It helps me in the summer.

[51:46] It helps me.

[51:48] The way I look at it, my solar pays for my AC in the summer.

[51:51] That's about it. But it helps.

[51:53] Good suggestion.

[51:55] Okay.

[51:59] Always sunny in Morganton City.

[52:03] We are more than grateful for our community, and we

[52:09] know the struggles of starting a small

[52:13] nonprofit to get going and off the ground and become

[52:16] sustainable. We've had our ups and downs, for sure.

[52:20] And we're at that point where we are becoming very sustainable on our own,

[52:24] so we want to be a nonprofit that actually gives back, just like the

[52:28] City of Willow, the Willows Thrift Shop does

[52:32] that with their thrift shop, and they've helped us the last couple of years, which

[52:36] is really amazing how everybody comes together.

[52:40] And with that, we'd be more than happy to put together a fundraiser for the Art

[52:44] Commission and help them in any way that we can to give

[52:48] back and help them with their PG&E bill or their rent, however we could

[52:52] with from the Cats.

[52:54] Thanks.

[52:55] Great. Thank you, Valerie. Any other thoughts in the audience?

[53:00] Okay. We're going to get things all done.

[53:04] No, I just thought I will shake some trees for you and see if we can get something

[53:08] nice from that. And appreciate what you guys do, y'all always show

[53:12] up.

[53:13] But I know that's the animal with community, so it's something we can do.

[53:17] But no, appreciate it, and I'm sorry it had to happen.

[53:22] John,

[53:23] thoughts?

[53:24] No.

[53:26] Well, Steve, with whom I share a last name and striking good

[53:30] looks-

[53:31] ... I'll see what I can do as well. As I heard John mention, I

[53:35] think I can help connect you with some resources, too.

[53:39] Okay.

[53:39] Thank you.

[53:40] And I'm not sure if this would come up during budget discussions, but

[53:44] I did also had a thought, and I consider the art

[53:48] gallery part of Orleans economic development, and this involved

[53:52] you, Art.

[53:54] I know that we had some of those art funds that were for

[53:58] possibly a city gate.

[54:00] Could we

[54:02] have a discussion with the Economic Development Commission that they might want to

[54:05] reassign some of those funds to another economic development

[54:09] project, which is the Arts Council?

[54:12] The money has been there for five years and not been used, and maybe that's

[54:15] somewhere they could get a little piece of the action without trying to tap into

[54:19] the general fund further.

[54:21] I believe that money still sits there. So anyways.

[54:26] Around $30,000, $32,000.

[54:28] Yeah.

[54:28] We're open to that.

[54:29] Now, I don't know if that means we need to refer the council, the Arts Commission,

[54:33] to go before the... This is a question for you, Scott, to go

[54:37] before the Economic Development Commission to ask their thoughts on

[54:41] that. It's money that's within their coffers.

[54:43] It's in their ability to use those funds.

[54:47] Yeah, that would be fine.

[54:48] Okay.

[54:48] And we don't have an actual budget, but we can-

[54:51] But those funds-

[54:52] We have-

[54:52] ... are earmarked for the EDC to decide how to use them, enable the

[54:56] application.To make a reservation

[54:59] Once you've been sent elsewhere, you have to make the reservation to send

[55:01] elsewhere.

[55:01] And?

[55:02] The only caveat with that is

[55:05] we haven't had an EDC meeting in three months-

[55:07] Oh

[55:07] ... because of the city

[55:10] manager situation. So as soon as that could get tied up, we

[55:14] can have a meeting so that we could discuss it.

[55:16] Can you not have a meeting without a city manager? Or why?

[55:21] I don't know if it's-

[55:21] That's always the way

[55:22] ... that's the way it is, but there's-

[55:23] And that's a rule? That's the one that runs the meeting.

[55:27] Is the city manager.

[55:28] And we rely on them for

[55:32] roles, history, a lot of stuff like you do.

[55:36] They're kind of-

[55:38] Is there any way we can-

[55:39] I'm sorry. Sorry.

[55:40] We can schedule a meeting. We can schedule a meeting just

[55:44] specifically for this one agenda item.

[55:46] With Janet's situation and our situation, we

[55:50] didn't feel it was prudent to have an EDC meeting with her limited

[55:54] hours with-

[55:55] Right

[55:55] ... the budget situation the city's in.

[55:57] We felt like her hours were more-

[56:00] Okay

[56:00] ... appropriated to handle the big stuff.

[56:02] But yeah, as soon as we have a meeting, we're more than willing

[56:06] to.

[56:07] Yeah, I think it's going to come back before us now that Mr.

[56:11] Goodman has separated his employment.

[56:13] We will be in the search, and the problem is how long can the

[56:17] arts commission hold out without additional funding.

[56:21] Our next scheduled meeting is Tuesday, June 9th.

[56:25] Okay.

[56:25] Which is in two and a half weeks.

[56:28] Okay, and we've also had a little bit of reprieve because Janet is free to

[56:32] roam around for a little bit. But this also can be discussed during the

[56:35] budget process.

[56:37] Okay. Yeah.

[56:37] This doesn't have to go to UNC.

[56:39] Okay.

[56:39] Because we still need to know how much is available still with the art program.

[56:43] We're still budgeting. We are still in the budgeting, yes. The next meeting, right?

[56:47] Do you want to send it over?

[56:47] Yes. Yeah. Okay. We'll see what's available-

[56:52] Okay

[56:52] ... in the budget.

[56:53] If I could ask a question. Mr. Wine, thank you for that suggestion.

[56:55] I think it's a great one. It could certainly bridge this gap,

[57:00] maybe salve this

[57:03] wound.

[57:04] But the real question, Janet, can you attend the June 9th meeting on behalf of the

[57:07] city and allow them to have that meeting so that-

[57:10] Sure

[57:10] ... arts commission members could come and speak to them to the topic?

[57:15] Yeah. We forget that-

[57:16] There we go. I'm not trying to put pressure on anybody, just-

[57:19] There's no pressure

[57:20] ... bringing it to the fact that we haven't had a meeting because of the

[57:23] circumstances.

[57:23] Thank you for letting us know that.

[57:24] Okay.

[57:24] It's important that you need it.

[57:25] Okay. I

[57:29] don't believe there's a committee of motion or action we can take other than just-

[57:32] No

[57:32] ... thank you for the information, and thank you for your time to come out

[57:36] tonight and I know you've been battling diligently to do everything you can.

[57:40] And I put it on the agenda primarily because I wanted the transparency and the

[57:43] public to know that they are attempting

[57:47] to put together a GoFundMe page. And I did

[57:52] check with the city attorney to make sure that that was something as the city we

[57:55] were allowed to do, since the arts commission is a

[57:59] commission authorized by the city.

[58:01] So, I wanted this council to know that as well,

[58:05] since all of you need to know what's going on, and I can't talk to them if I don't

[58:09] get the okay. Okay? So I think we're in

[58:13] a place that, cross our words, we're going to find some solutions for everything.

[58:17] Okay? I think it's pretty unanimous up here.

[58:20] We're going to find solutions.

[58:23] Thank you. Thanks for everything you've done.

[58:25] It's incredible,

[58:28] this building. And the art is... I think that you're booked all the

[58:32] way through the end of the year with shows, aren't you? Yes. You are.

[58:36] Okay. Thank you very much. We're going to move on now.

[58:43] All right. We have the hazardous material survey report for

[58:46] 824 Fourth Street, the Purity Building, and 912

[58:50] Third Street, the Carnegie Hall. Janet?

[58:54] Good evening again, Mayor and city council members.

[58:58] I believe the council had authorized staff to execute a

[59:01] $21,000 contract to conduct a comprehensive hazardous

[59:05] material survey. They contracted with G-One Construction,

[59:09] and they performed it with the assistance of Vista Environmental

[59:13] Consulting. They performed pre-renovation

[59:16] hazardous material surveys for the two buildings, as the mayor said.

[59:20] This building, and also the former Purity building that's on Fourth

[59:24] Street.

[59:25] And this was done in January. The surveys were performed to identify and

[59:29] sample accessible suspect asbestos-containing

[59:33] materials, representative building components for the presence

[59:37] of lead containing surface coatings, lead-based paints,

[59:41] polychlorinated biphenyls, PCPs-

[59:44] Mm

[59:44] ...

[59:45] in light fixture ballasts and other hazardous materials that may be in the path of

[59:49] a renovation project. So attached, I believe you

[59:53] probably have reviewed the survey reports, and-

[59:57] Let's see what's here

[59:58] ... it's structured with individual options.

[1:00:00] The city can move forward with each scope independently or combined.

[1:00:04] And

[1:00:06] also, like I said, it's been separated out, combined or

[1:00:09] together. Mr. Clark has been in contact

[1:00:14] with the city manager, whoever they will be.

[1:00:19] And he would be here tonight, but he was not able to make it.

[1:00:23] He said it was not as bad for the asbestos as they thought, but there's a

[1:00:27] lot of lead.

[1:00:29] And so there might be, I don't know, they would like to go

[1:00:33] into the, which is always covered in plastic.

[1:00:37] They would like to go in there because they need to go, and they were not able

[1:00:41] to get into that spot for this survey, but they still need

[1:00:45] to get into the B ship, A ship? Is that what?

[1:00:48] Yeah.

[1:00:48] To see what else is in there. They think there might be something also in there.

[1:00:53] Clearly, for your

[1:00:55] review, there was impact

[1:00:59] fees, but with this budget,

[1:01:02] I don't believe there's that much in the

[1:01:06] city hallUm, impact fees to pay

[1:01:10] for all of this.

[1:01:12] Purely just let the staff know your direction, what

[1:01:16] you would like to do.

[1:01:19] Okay, public comment?

[1:01:23] Online?

[1:01:25] No? Okay. Let's start on the other side then.

[1:01:30] David?

[1:01:31] For me it's like, are we in any danger right now being in this

[1:01:35] building? Will we be exposed to stuff floating here?

[1:01:40] It didn't look like it to me. He didn't say, when I talked to

[1:01:44] Mr. Clark, he didn't say immediately abandon the building.

[1:01:47] Yeah.

[1:01:47] There's just things that a lot of times, and Paul might, and Zach might be able

[1:01:51] to... A lot of times, renovation, you disturb things,

[1:01:55] and that's when there

[1:01:57] could be a contamination. These ballasts, yeah, disturb.

[1:02:00] You'd probably have something. When you

[1:02:04] chip away paint so you can paint it again, that would

[1:02:07] be when you would be exposed to lead.

[1:02:10] But as it stands now...

[1:02:13] Yeah. Pretty safe, right?

[1:02:16] Until it gets disturbed.

[1:02:17] Stay out of that security building.

[1:02:19] Yeah.

[1:02:19] Yeah. And that's,

[1:02:22] like I said, I wasn't here for when they

[1:02:25] asked for this report.

[1:02:27] I presumed what you needed to know is what's in this report.

[1:02:31] Which is,

[1:02:33] they sampled, they found out, well, how much asbestos there was, and

[1:02:37] what would contain that asbestos, what would contain the

[1:02:41] lead.

[1:02:44] Okay. Out.

[1:02:48] Jen, I would appreciate to find out what

[1:02:51] this means. As you

[1:02:53] stated, the report shows that there are hazardous materials in both

[1:02:57] buildings. Just if they can find out for us

[1:03:01] what that means for occupying and using,

[1:03:05] especially Carnegie, since we're actively in it.

[1:03:09] And then

[1:03:12] if we do find anything,

[1:03:16] how we can get on, at least for Carnegie, start moving on that.

[1:03:20] Thank you.

[1:03:23] It's like, I think if you notice in the pictures, they're mostly showing

[1:03:27] outside-

[1:03:28] Right

[1:03:28] ... for Carnegie. There really isn't anything other than, I think, the

[1:03:32] ballasts.

[1:03:33] Yeah.

[1:03:34] And that would be only if it was disturbed.

[1:03:36] But far as any danger, like I said, he didn't say anything about

[1:03:40] that.

[1:03:43] John?

[1:03:45] You know, Madam Mayor, everyone's looking at these documents.

[1:03:47] I was just trying to pull up the, what I read earlier

[1:03:51] this weekend,

[1:03:53] on this report, and one of the things that I was a little upset with was the

[1:03:57] cost of just mitigating it out of the

[1:04:01] Purity building

[1:04:03] at $131,000 just to clean up something, and we're

[1:04:07] just scratching the surface. And we have a library roof that we're going to have to

[1:04:11] deal with, 30 some odd thousand dollars worth of mitigation

[1:04:14] here. We have to weigh our

[1:04:18] finances versus our goals and wishes.

[1:04:21] And I would say at this point, we don't spend another dime on the Purity

[1:04:25] building.

[1:04:26] This could turn out to be a bigger money pit than we've already found out.

[1:04:30] I am all in favor of getting that thing out or we're...

[1:04:34] I don't know, Zach, we could bury this out by the ponds.

[1:04:38] Because I have crew that could probably do it for free.

[1:04:41] But this is not good.

[1:04:45] And this building too, I mean, I am, I mean, I

[1:04:49] guess it has the benefits to the Purity building, to say the least.

[1:04:52] We do not have an endless budget, and I'm very concerned that we

[1:04:56] start ripping the scab off of a wound.

[1:04:58] I've heard everybody's comments, I agree with them.

[1:05:01] The unfortunate part is, the missus wants a

[1:05:05] fancy car and we can only afford a bicycle, so

[1:05:09] manage my expectations. And as somebody who's responsible for the

[1:05:13] checkbook, we have to be stalwart in terms of

[1:05:16] managing our budget and being future responsible

[1:05:20] for making sure we don't go into some projects that could really, really

[1:05:24] hurt us in the long haul.

[1:05:27] Nice thing is, thanks for not letting us know that we're not sitting in a

[1:05:31] hazmat site. They tell you there's lead paint here. We know what the ballasts do.

[1:05:34] We know all that stuff. We've got rot and other damage, but we'll have to

[1:05:38] cross that bridge in the future. And we might have to, as long as we don't lick the

[1:05:42] lead paint windows, because don't forget, that's leaded glass.

[1:05:45] Yeah.

[1:05:45] We should be good.

[1:05:47] That's what I recommend.

[1:05:48] And John, real quick. Sorry.

[1:05:49] Yeah.

[1:05:51] John.

[1:05:51] Go ahead.

[1:05:52] I think for, when you read that 130,000 for

[1:05:55] mitigation, that's not for-

[1:05:57] That's not for-

[1:05:57] That's for selective destruction before assessment.

[1:06:00] So I think there'd be additional costs to that.

[1:06:03] Oh, no, 100%.

[1:06:04] Yeah.

[1:06:04] That's just-

[1:06:05] Yeah

[1:06:06] ... performance, lack of due diligence, age.

[1:06:07] That's just the beginning, the scab of the wound. That's just the beginning.

[1:06:11] But not flooring or exterior work.

[1:06:14] So, and Terry, you'd know better. On your side, did you guys have those VCT

[1:06:18] or that vinyl tile that's on your side?

[1:06:20] Yes. The-

[1:06:21] Yeah

[1:06:22] ... vinyl was there. What that 130...

[1:06:23] Well, I spoke with Will Shepherd, he called me.

[1:06:26] Mm-hmm.

[1:06:27] And the 130 was to remove the interior

[1:06:30] structure down to the studs. So as

[1:06:34] part of drawing plans for a renovation project,

[1:06:39] he would know what the structural design of that building

[1:06:42] was because there's been so many changes over the years.

[1:06:45] Right.

[1:06:45] The remediation that's required just to get rid of,

[1:06:50] it's $7,000 for 1,000-

[1:06:53] Right

[1:06:54] ... holes to look for lead paint, and it's $30,000

[1:06:58] plus to remove what they have identified in the way of

[1:07:01] asbestos and lead paint so far.

[1:07:04] Yeah.

[1:07:04] So then the cleanup is $37,000, and if we

[1:07:08] decide we want to strip walls down and start talking about renovating and turning

[1:07:11] it to city hall, that's where our $130,000 came in.

[1:07:15] Okay. Ooh.

[1:07:17] Yeah.

[1:07:19] I agree with Alex. The one building of concern would be this

[1:07:23] one. If there's some issues that we can reasonably address so that

[1:07:27] there's full confidence that this building is fully safe for the public

[1:07:31] now and in the future, we should do that.

[1:07:33] I think as far as the Purity Building goes,

[1:07:36] that's a pig in a poke that the city bought.

[1:07:39] They've been pouring money into it for years.

[1:07:41] I've watched the taxpayers' money, not necessarily ours, it was a grant, I

[1:07:45] don't know if Janet remembers, a million dollars.

[1:07:48] A million dollars was spent on pretty pictures.

[1:07:52] Eventually, what we want to do is go back to the grant process, see if there's

[1:07:56] funds available to remove that building to nothing, and

[1:08:00] what we'll have is a clean site for future development in the downtown, possibly

[1:08:03] for commercial development, possibly for municipal use.

[1:08:07] But I think that's the only real solution there, and I wouldn't spend a dime right

[1:08:11] now on the Purity Building,

[1:08:14] other than some barricades to keep people from going inside.

[1:08:17] I think that's the right course of action there.

[1:08:21] Okay.

[1:08:23] My thoughts on it,

[1:08:25] yes, we have to defer because right now we don't have any money to move forward

[1:08:28] with any of the project. But also, we

[1:08:32] have a real problem with the building, this

[1:08:37] black plastic flapping off it. We have to do something.

[1:08:41] And the way I see it, that building actually, on that end where the

[1:08:45] plastic is,

[1:08:47] it's got two-by-fours the entire length of it.

[1:08:50] Is it possible just to get up there and at least stop spending $200 to

[1:08:54] $400 every two to three weeks because paper keeps

[1:08:58] coming off, and get up there and

[1:09:01] put quarter-inch plywood to seal that off, making it safe for anyone

[1:09:06] underneath, and getting rid of the whole fix it?

[1:09:09] Because if we're doing nothing, we still own the property.

[1:09:12] We can't just keep putting plastic on.

[1:09:15] What's your thoughts, Zach?

[1:09:17] My thoughts are to remove the plastic and let it sit open,

[1:09:21] leave the wood open. The wood that is actually up there as your upright

[1:09:25] studding is actually held to the old window frames from the

[1:09:29] grocery market by tie wire.

[1:09:31] Oh.

[1:09:31] So what's happening right now is the frame, it is

[1:09:35] leaning forward, and it's trying to disconnect from the roof

[1:09:38] line and fall out into the road. So if we add more weight to

[1:09:42] that, it's definitely just going to drop off, possibly injure somebody.

[1:09:46] Okay.

[1:09:48] But the plastic solution isn't the best solution at this point.

[1:09:52] Right?

[1:09:52] Just to keep water out in the meantime, but now that it's summer and the wind's

[1:09:56] blowing and it's ripped it down to-

[1:09:57] Just take it off and leave it

[1:09:58] ... yeah, take it off, yeah, better than nothing.

[1:10:00] Because the rest of it can go

[1:10:02] Mm-hmm.

[1:10:03] And the option we have, that's not viable.

[1:10:07] Okay, let's do that. I think it's honestly-

[1:10:09] Thank you, Zach. Welcome.

[1:10:11] Appreciate your work.

[1:10:12] Welcome.

[1:10:13] Okay.

[1:10:15] And that will all have to return in a future discussion as to where

[1:10:19] we're going to with both this building and what we're going to do in the future.

[1:10:22] We can't just leave it there forever. It's pretty sad.

[1:10:25] If the city,

[1:10:27] we would probably be looking at a maintenance measure if it weren't

[1:10:31] anything else, and we don't. So that'll be another discussion for each of them.

[1:10:36] Okay, any other thoughts?

[1:10:38] Okay, as long as that administrative business, and we have

[1:10:42] the city manager, Bird Boulder, for it. Everything? That's...

[1:10:47] Now-

[1:10:48] Did we do public comment?

[1:10:50] Go ahead.

[1:10:51] Did we do public comment?

[1:10:51] She asked first, and then she asked that.

[1:10:53] Yes, sir.

[1:10:57] It was before you made all your comments.

[1:10:59] I didn't have a comment until you made all your comments.

[1:11:01] You know what? I'm the mayor, so I have to say, let's hear

[1:11:05] you, Janet, just for a minute.

[1:11:07] Okay.

[1:11:08] But keep it short, okay?

[1:11:09] Covered it with black plastic.

[1:11:10] The black plastic-

[1:11:11] Blown away in the wind.

[1:11:14] We got it down, but that ain't...

[1:11:15] I think you know what I'm going to say.

[1:11:17] Do you?

[1:11:17] Of course you know.

[1:11:18] And I'm going to let you say it anyway.

[1:11:19] I don't know what you're going to say.

[1:11:22] I bet, is it Mill Street School?

[1:11:26] I bet when they were deciding what to do with Mill Street School,

[1:11:30] they said exactly what John said and exactly what Wade said,

[1:11:34] and everybody that knows about that school regrets it.

[1:11:39] That building is a historic building.

[1:11:41] It was built in the '40s. Anything over, what is it, 50

[1:11:45] years, is a historic building. When a year ago they were

[1:11:49] talking about building a new city

[1:11:52] building

[1:11:59] for a million and a half dollars,

[1:12:03] it's absolutely ridiculous to not patch

[1:12:06] that

[1:12:08] when we can save part of history. I hate to see when the

[1:12:13] igloo things, I hate for them to go. They're part of Orland.

[1:12:18] From an outsider, see

[1:12:22] Orland completely different than you all do.

[1:12:25] These are wonderful individual things. It's a historic building.

[1:12:30] I would just be sick if you let them let it

[1:12:33] fantastic.

[1:12:34] Thank you for your thoughts.

[1:12:35] Yeah.

[1:12:35] I thought one person-

[1:12:39] Now I brought this up.

[1:12:40] This was why Paige told me all of this stuff.

[1:12:43] We have igloos.

[1:12:44] There we go.

[1:12:44] If I can make this really short. You've kind of come up with a

[1:12:48] solution, but maybe speaking to the

[1:12:52] gentleman who prepared the report, and just passing

[1:12:56] that by him and getting the okay

[1:13:00] that

[1:13:03] we won't have toxic things lying

[1:13:06] everywhere. Just an idea.

[1:13:10] Okay.

[1:13:10] Thank you.

[1:13:10] Thanks. We'll make sure we do it safely, whatever we do.

[1:13:14] Okay?Okay, and maybe there's the option out there

[1:13:18] that this council will have a discussion and decide to sell it.

[1:13:21] If we sell it, the public, the general public doesn't have the restrictions

[1:13:25] that we as a city council have. We have a much higher

[1:13:29] bar

[1:13:30] for the public being in a building like that, than if it was sold to somebody

[1:13:34] who potentially could preserve it the same way you

[1:13:38] did with the Farwood building, the same way I did with my

[1:13:41] buildings. And maybe that's

[1:13:44] a future for the building, rather than the cost of tearing that

[1:13:48] down, knowing the toxicity of it,

[1:13:52] is probably the million dollars we have.

[1:13:54] It's crazy how expensive these things are.

[1:13:57] So anyway, we'll have to bring it back to a future discussion.

[1:14:01] But for now, let's at least get rid of the black plastic.

[1:14:05] Okay? I think that's an agreement with everyone on this council.

[1:14:09] Okay, Janet, it's your turn.

[1:14:11] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:14:15] Our city planner, Lisa Loja, who works for

[1:14:19] HSN out of Redding, will be leaving at the end of

[1:14:23] June. She is moving to New Mexico. I

[1:14:26] did call her company, Bruce Grove, and I asked him,

[1:14:31] because they do not intend to renew our contract.

[1:14:35] And of course, I called to make sure there wasn't anything

[1:14:39] that was

[1:14:40] something we needed to address and might have been a concern.

[1:14:43] He says, no, they just do not have anybody on staff that would do the same

[1:14:47] thing she did, which is to work for a city to do their planning.

[1:14:52] So, I reached out to the third person on our list that we had

[1:14:56] interviewed, which is Jake Morley from Element Solutions.

[1:15:00] I had a talk with him last Thursday, so I wasn't able to put this on the agenda.

[1:15:04] He is willing to step in

[1:15:07] and do our city planning. He does work for the city of

[1:15:10] Colusa right now.

[1:15:13] And he is also a developer also. He does land

[1:15:16] development too.

[1:15:19] He said he'd be willing to work

[1:15:22] six months, a year.

[1:15:24] He would be in for two days a week. He's very

[1:15:28] accommodating for us. He kind of knows our situation.

[1:15:32] He was recommended by Mr. Rago, has worked with him.

[1:15:37] Bruce Grove, he's with HSN, the company we do have right now.

[1:15:41] He recommended him, and also our building inspector, Nick Patterson,

[1:15:45] has worked with him. So I feel that it would be a good

[1:15:49] fit, and he'd be able to work probably

[1:15:53] as soon as we can have him. But Lisa

[1:15:57] doesn't intend to be here till the end of June.

[1:16:00] So, let's see. The next thing is that I know we've all been,

[1:16:05] Jennifer's been bugging you about whether you can attend the ambulance study

[1:16:08] meeting. That has been canceled. The consultant cannot be there, so

[1:16:12] it might be the first week in June. But be prepared to see

[1:16:16] another flurry of emails that ask you if a certain date

[1:16:20] is correct. It'll probably be at Success One Center because it will

[1:16:24] be the

[1:16:25] city council for Willows, Orland, and then the board supervisors.

[1:16:30] That's the only two things that I have.

[1:16:33] And that's it.

[1:16:35] Thank you.

[1:16:38] Okay, any other--

[1:16:40] Okay, I will ask a question. Now that we have the

[1:16:44] separation with Joe Goodman, do we set that for a

[1:16:48] special meeting? We can get discussing

[1:16:51] publication and advertising to find a new study

[1:16:55] manager. How do we move forward with that?

[1:16:58] However, council would like to, we can agendize it for the next regular

[1:17:02] meeting. That was kind of the plan, but-

[1:17:05] Out of all of you, Bill, how do we need to get on it, or do we want you to-

[1:17:09] Actually, I'd like to see if we can get staff direction to reach out to Charles and

[1:17:12] just these cities, and let's get this ball rolling, and then hopefully we'll have

[1:17:16] something at least on here where you guys are attending.

[1:17:21] Before we come back to that meeting of, like, what have we gotten done?

[1:17:25] Because we're meeting in the fall.

[1:17:26] Yeah.

[1:17:28] But now it's not good. But it's not good for staff.

[1:17:31] We're good now. At the end of the month, we're going to have three people doing

[1:17:35] five people's jobs. Very concerned about all that.

[1:17:37] So we'll get all the way.

[1:17:42] So that's it, the direction of the staff? Or can we even do that?

[1:17:45] Is it something-

[1:17:46] No, but I think that was kind of the plan.

[1:17:48] So yeah.

[1:17:49] Let me get on to it.

[1:17:51] Yeah.

[1:17:53] All right, so verbal reports.

[1:17:55] Council?

[1:17:57] No.

[1:17:59] No? John?

[1:18:01] Nothing bad about the

[1:18:05] community. Love the place. Looking forward to good weather.

[1:18:07] And whoever brought the wind this evening, Broadway

[1:18:11] Lane, boy. Why you even bother going 10 with you?

[1:18:14] Only 12 calls Saturday. Geez.

[1:18:18] It's gone tomorrow.

[1:18:22] Just thank you. Glad to be here for my first full meeting.

[1:18:25] I heard these meetings went really long, but I think that's a pretty good time.

[1:18:28] We're going to get out of here, so keep it up.

[1:18:30] Plan.

[1:18:31] Good management.

[1:18:32] And work for a long time, yeah. Yeah, and have it for another walk.

[1:18:35] Yeah.

[1:18:36] Okay, I have a whole list of things now that, and the city that I've

[1:18:40] been with her was very happy to see that in that sanctuary

[1:18:45] gala was well attended and very well done up.

[1:18:49] And thank you, Valerie, for what you do.

[1:18:52] The Arts Commission, again, thank you for all you do.

[1:18:56] I attended their special meeting concerning what we'll talk about

[1:19:00] tonight. LACTO is

[1:19:03] meeting and regularly talking. Janet is the

[1:19:06] LACTO administrator or-

[1:19:09] Executive officer

[1:19:10] ... executive officer.

[1:19:11] Mm-hmm.

[1:19:12] And so we'll be having more discussions with them concerning our west side

[1:19:15] annexation soon.

[1:19:18] The Library Commission, very exciting, Jody, what you're doing

[1:19:22] with the schools, that whole report of that

[1:19:24] MOUTo bring our students together with our library.

[1:19:28] Orland's probably one of the only ones in the north state doing such

[1:19:32] an aggressive and well-thought-out plan

[1:19:36] to get our kids, every kid in school, involved with our

[1:19:39] library. Unbelievable how many kids our library

[1:19:43] reaches in the many ways. And one of the things coming up is your

[1:19:47] wildlife, what is it called?

[1:19:48] Wild Things.

[1:19:49] And when is that?

[1:19:51] June 15th, I think.

[1:19:53] Okay. And it's going to come fast and furious.

[1:19:55] So anybody that wants to really see a cool program the

[1:19:59] library puts together, it's called Wild Things, and they bring all of these wild

[1:20:03] animals right out here in the park, and hundreds,

[1:20:07] well, it was probably over 100 last year, kids and people get to come and see

[1:20:11] the animals, with affection, learn about the animals, as well

[1:20:15] as the music program that you have coming on, too, which is, when

[1:20:19] does that begin, Paul?

[1:20:21] We're working on... We've got the music garden instruments

[1:20:24] ordered,

[1:20:25] PVA for when we'll have that kind of thing.

[1:20:28] And this is stations around the park where kids can go

[1:20:31] around and-

[1:20:33] It'll be on the west side of the library.

[1:20:35] Okay.

[1:20:35] That'll be-

[1:20:36] Where they can go and hear and feel and see musical

[1:20:39] instruments. It's a permanent exhibit.

[1:20:41] Yeah.

[1:20:42] So that was pretty cool, too, with the animal.

[1:20:44] And Joey got grants, I think, for most of this.

[1:20:48] Okay.

[1:20:48] Or donations. I know the wildlife was donations.

[1:20:53] Fair parade, we did the judging. John,

[1:20:56] Casey, at the school.

[1:20:59] They have a new one. Miss Martha doesn't show up.

[1:21:03] No?

[1:21:03] Never heard. I never heard of it.

[1:21:04] I don't know. There was some pretty fun ones out there.

[1:21:08] Great.

[1:21:08] I also went there and was the judge for their forestry exhibit.

[1:21:11] A lot of really young kids, or high school kids, really, into forestry, and

[1:21:15] that's really a dying

[1:21:17] art. It was cool to see so many kids involved.

[1:21:20] And then Keller Williams, for those of you who do not know,

[1:21:23] Keller Williams Realty,

[1:21:26] which is Becky Jones, right?

[1:21:30] Yeah.

[1:21:30] Yeah. Becky Jones got the Keller Williams folks, a group of

[1:21:34] them, to go out and do public service.

[1:21:37] There were probably, I think she said 40-some, almost

[1:21:41] 50 of them, and they came and painted our park benches, our park

[1:21:45] drinking fountain, the side of the library building.

[1:21:48] All of them came one morning, beautiful day that it was.

[1:21:52] They were done by 2:00, and they all came over and had an

[1:21:56] after party. And boy, those people know how to party.

[1:21:59] So that was a lot of fun with all of them.

[1:22:01] We thank them very much for the effort that they put in to making Orland look

[1:22:05] good.

[1:22:07] High school had a civic engagement program last night,

[1:22:11] and Alex, Tracy, and John were at that,

[1:22:15] where they actually have a program that was initially

[1:22:18] state-funded and now is just funded by their own

[1:22:22] activity, their high school, where kids get together in

[1:22:26] groups. They come up with what they see as a need in their community.

[1:22:30] They spend the entire year during their senior year planning for it, going

[1:22:34] out, reaching out to our community.

[1:22:35] One of them was for West Haven,

[1:22:38] went and spent time with older adults and learned and heard

[1:22:42] and

[1:22:43] touched their lives and were touched by the older adults.

[1:22:47] We also had, it was called, what was the swim program?

[1:22:50] Civic Engagement.

[1:22:51] No, what was the swim pro-

[1:22:52] Oh, swim, I'm sorry, Whale Tails. Sorry.

[1:22:54] Whale Tails, which is, the Red Cross puts together, and it is to

[1:22:58] teach kids how to swim. And they went out to third grade classrooms throughout

[1:23:02] our city to talk to kids about water

[1:23:06] safety and how to stay alive

[1:23:09] by staying out of the water a lot of the times, or what to do if you find yourself

[1:23:13] in the water. So these kids were amazing.

[1:23:15] They put all these programs together and done a whole PowerPoint.

[1:23:18] It was a really neat thing last night.

[1:23:21] And the Orland, last one I have here is the Orland Women's Club

[1:23:25] has their lunch tomorrow. And they, of course, all

[1:23:29] of you know, are a very big part of our community as well.

[1:23:32] And we thank them all for what they do.

[1:23:34] I know some of you in the audience are part of that group, so we'll see you.

[1:23:38] Okay, and that's the end of it for me.

[1:23:40] And we'll have that last gavel thing during the-

Orland City Council Meeting | May 19, 2026

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