[0:16] He's in Florida. >> Yeah. [laughter] He

[0:19] » just had to sit outside, too. >> Yeah. He just had to sit outside and

[0:23] enjoy the weather, too. Rude.

[0:33] » Just chose to move it to the agenda. >> All right. It's uh six o'clock. We'll

[0:36] call the meeting to order with the pledge of allegiance.

[0:58] Hey, the clerk is currently not in the room.

[1:06] » She was making a comment, right? >> Yeah. It's in a couple sheets.

[1:10] » I think everyone is >> pages two and four messing up the uh

[1:14] » Yeah. >> Yep.

[2:20] » [clears throat]

[2:36] [cough and clears throat]

[3:26] » Let me know when you're ready. Okay. Uh clerk will take the role.

[3:32] [laughter] [clears throat and cough]

[3:39] I did see him. Dan, if you're here, can you can you

[3:43] speak?

[3:49] Probably. Here.

[3:56] » Yes. >> Here.

[3:59] » Here.

[4:05] » Yeah. Van is present in the recorded meeting that we have. So, cook

[4:12] note that we have five and a half. I guess [laughter]

[4:16] Ben, can you hear us? I think I'm back. It looks like he's lighting up like he's

[4:22] speaking. >> I saw that. I heard something.

[4:24] » Okay. Hopefully we can hopefully we can figure out how to hear

[4:29] him. If not, then we won't. So, I think we'll just at this point note that we

[4:33] have a five >> five person

[4:39] [clears throat] forum with two with two absent. Yeah, Neil won't be here. Bang.

[4:42] Bang. Can you speak again? >> Uh, one, two,

[4:46] » I can barely hear him. Is there a mic that I need to move?

[4:53] » Is

[4:56] » Yeah, I have it. Sound should be out on the

[5:04] » Don't see what my picks are either. >> Okay. Uh the volume on the thing on the

[5:09] on the cross should go all the way to the right. Should be on the bottom.

[5:15] No, not not not that. Is he coming through that?

[5:18] » No. >> Okay.

[5:22] Volume up. >> Room volume is all the way up.

[5:23] » Okay.

[5:26] » Try it again. Van,

[5:33] » I see other people. >> I think you'll be able to hear a yay or

[5:38] nay, right? >> Yep. Yep.

[5:40] » Yeah. Teacher >> six. Yep.

[5:44] [clears throat] Uh before we get to the approval of the agenda, um I was

[5:48] communicated to by uh Trustee Klene that uh there was uh an expressed interest in

[5:56] potentially removing item 7A from the agenda. Um if there's

[6:02] any interest in doing that, the motion has to be made before we approve the

[6:06] agenda because then we would then have a motion to approve the amended agenda.

[6:11] So, I will leave that to the the board at large if anybody wishes to make a

[6:15] motion regarding that. Otherwise, we'll just entertain a motion to approve the

[6:18] agenda as presented.

[6:25] » I'll second. >> We have a motion and a second to approve

[6:27] the agenda as presented. All those in favor say I.

[6:30] » I. Post say no. >> Motion carries. All right. So the

[6:34] consent agenda includes our regular meeting from January as well as licenses

[6:39] and permits for lucky seven tippy canoes the mill and then board committee

[6:44] meeting and agency reports as listed vouchers payable and there is no budget

[6:49] summary included in the consent agenda this time. Does anyone have any

[6:53] questions on the consent? If >> I could comment on the budget right now

[6:56] been swamped with um finishing up year end stuff and audit request. So no no

[7:02] time to get to that this month. Anybody else have anything that they wanted to

[7:07] cover or discuss from the consent before we have a motion to approve?

[7:10] [clears throat] >> But I'll make a motion to approve the

[7:13] consent agenda. >> Thanks, Nicole. Thank you, Mike. We have

[7:16] a motion and a second to approve consent agenda. All those in favor say I.

[7:21] » I. Oppos say no. Motion carries. Item four in the agenda is public input and

[7:26] ideas. Limit five minutes per speaker. Anybody who wishes to address the board,

[7:30] now is the time to come up. Please make sure that the microphone of the dace is

[7:34] on and that you state your name and your address and then you'll have five

[7:38] minutes to address the board.

[7:46] » No. >> Sure.

[7:50] » Sure.

[7:54] » Thank you. >> There. Okay. Cheryl Beardsley. My

[7:58] address is 1850 60th Avenue, Oyola, Wisconsin. Um, I'm a member of the

[8:03] heritage committee and we just wanted to inform you of some of the things we've

[8:07] been up to. Um, I think you probably all already know

[8:12] that we did a tableabling at the Ocul and interviewed whoever wanted to talk

[8:17] about what their family history was like in the in the area and how they'd like

[8:22] the town to be represented. and those have been um transcribed and

[8:29] yeah included in our thinking. We're compiling a bibliography of resources um

[8:36] that includes the Ocola village chronicle, the history of Ojiway people.

[8:41] Um we've interviewed Ojiway [clears throat] historian Jason

[8:45] Schneider Slender, sorry.

[8:49] And um we've drafted some signed content which we can pass out to you tonight.

[8:56] It's just a draft. It's as you probably know this is a complicated story and so

[9:02] we've sort of taken a stab at it with what we currently know. We want to get

[9:07] more input putut from the tri tribe about some of the language but that's um

[9:12] so that's in the works and we plan to meet with people in the OE historical

[9:19] society and interview um former I think she's the former historian for a the St.

[9:25] Croy band Wanda McFagen and we'll host listening sessions and

[9:30] get feedback on what we've got once we've got more and we we're going to

[9:36] collaborate with Diane Wilson on the Dakota part of the history. She's a

[9:40] author from the other side of the river and has Dakota history. She's actually

[9:44] the author for the Valley Reads book this year.

[9:50] Um, and I've been attending the um,

[9:55] senior cent's gathering. So, that's a group of seniors

[10:00] that just meet and talk and I plan to go to the potluck just because there'll be

[10:05] more people and probably different points of view. Um,

[10:10] so we just wanted to let you know that we're working. We've got words and

[10:16] you'll get the words. So, thank you. That's it.

[10:21] » You want me to turn this off? No, >> keep it on. Thank you.

[10:23] » Keep it on.

[10:28] » Hello. >> Hey, Eric.

[10:30] » Eric Rens, 403A 8th Avenue, also the owner of AIO Lanes in downtown

[10:36] Wisconsin. AIO Wisconsin. All right.

[10:41] So, first off, I just want to thank everybody that took my phone calls

[10:43] today. I really appreciate you guys hearing me out. Um, I feel like my

[10:47] points were made. Um, I guess to start with, I just say that I'm semi-

[10:52] disappointed and feel a little bit betrayed by the board here. Um, when we

[10:57] went through this in June, all everybody talked and I can read some direct

[11:01] quotes. Um, I won't say who said it, but I agree. I just don't think we have

[11:05] enough information to make a decision. And I know I'm not willing to vote for

[11:08] something over the objections of downtown businesses. I think that they

[11:12] form the heart of the community and bring people here. and we need to take

[11:15] the time to truly engage with them in this because this is a monumental change

[11:19] that we're talking about. I don't think there's been enough front-end

[11:22] conversations to talk about the permutations of this. That was one

[11:26] member, another board member. I think at the very least we should probably just

[11:29] wait till the ribbon gets cut on the bridge. This conversation can continue

[11:34] can continue when that stress has been removed. There's a lot of time between

[11:37] now and then that we can gather a lot of data and make lot decisions, but we

[11:40] should wait to the bridge to open then continue the conversation. Now, I know

[11:44] many will say that there's no different or there's a difference between what was

[11:47] presented then and what's being presented now. But the main issue is

[11:50] still that we're trying to tell people we don't want them in this town longer

[11:54] than 2 hours. And after talking with the business community, this is a very major

[11:58] concern to all of us. Um when we get people in this town, we want to keep

[12:03] them here. If people come to go to see the falls, we don't want them leaving

[12:06] town to go eat. If you go to the falls, you hike up to the bluff to see the

[12:11] view. It's beautiful. You come down, you go eat at the waterhed. You walk down,

[12:15] you get ice cream at the antique store. And then you might go have a drink on

[12:18] the patio. And you do that on a Saturday afternoon. You come at 11:00 and you

[12:22] leave at 1:30. You think you had a great day. All of a sudden, you leave town. 3

[12:25] weeks later, all of a sudden, you get a bail in the mail for $30. Do you know

[12:29] what you're going to remember about Oyola? You're not going to remember the

[12:31] waterfall. You're not going to remember the beautiful view. You're going to

[12:33] remember that $30 ticket cuz that frustrates you. Um, I'm sure a lot of

[12:37] know that I presented this to my people on Facebook. I'll just read a couple

[12:41] that when I was sitting down here came across. As an out oftowner who frequents

[12:45] a yellow for their shops, restaurants, and bowling, I can tell you that this is

[12:49] 100% bad idea. If I get a parking ticket because I happen to be shopping for only

[12:52] 2 minutes over 2 hours, that will be the only thing I remember and it'll be my

[12:56] last visit to Oyola. Um, this is a very hot button issue. Um,

[13:02] and like I said, I don't think there's any difference between meter parking and

[13:04] enforcing the two hours. Of course, meter parking is more inconvenient to

[13:08] people, but still the message of the story is we don't want you here longer

[13:12] than two hours. And I don't know why we are telling visitors to our town that.

[13:17] Um, another issue that I just brought up is people, how are they going to know

[13:20] that it's all of a sudden being enforced? So, all of a sudden they've

[13:24] been coming here for years and years and years and then they get a ticket 3

[13:28] months later saying, "Hey, you get fined $30." They're not going to want to come

[13:32] back to this town. Um, I know the main thing that they're going to talk about

[13:35] is safety sticks. Um, when I looked at the agenda, it looked like there was 29

[13:40] pages on just the camera enforcement and not that much on safety sticks. So, I

[13:44] feel like the proposal is more on the cameras downtown and making sure people

[13:48] leave this town within 2 hours or get fined than the safety sticks. Um, the

[13:53] safety sticks, I think they call them safety sticks because that sounds good.

[13:57] They want to get their foot in the door with municipalities with a safety stick

[14:00] cuz everybody wants safety, right? Um, so the safety sticks monitor the

[14:05] crosswalks or the fire hydrants. I go downtown every day. I've never seen

[14:08] somebody parked in front of the crosswalks. I noticed in the letters

[14:12] that it's only downtown. Why are the safety sticks only downtown and not out

[14:15] by the schools or down 35 here? It seems like they're just trying to get their

[14:21] foot in the door so that 3 months from now they can ping Devon with another

[14:24] email. Hey, how are the safety sticks going? Do you think we could, you know,

[14:27] propose this to the board again about, you know, monitoring the two-hour lots

[14:30] and putting the cameras up or what about readers? And never mind say, I know I

[14:33] don't think they're appetite for it right now. 6 months later, they're going

[14:36] to ping them again. Hey, what do you think about this? And it's just going to

[14:39] happen. And us business, us in the business community are going to have to

[14:41] keep fighting this over and over again. I think safety sticks solve a problem

[14:45] that doesn't exist besides for that company because they get their foot in

[14:48] the door. Um, I acknowledge that parking is a problem during the day downtown,

[14:53] but I think that's mostly an employee parking issue. Um, the problem is this

[14:58] doesn't solve that problem. Employees downtown still need a place to park. If

[15:01] we want to come up with a solution for that, we have to give them an option of

[15:04] somewhere to park. One of the options is behind the old Dairy Queen, Busy Bean. I

[15:09] think that's a great opportunity because a lot of the congestion downtown is down

[15:12] by the bowling alley, Hogi Dental, and everywhere else. So if we had a

[15:16] opportunity to turn that into parking >> 15 seconds. Okay. Well, I want to move

[15:20] ahead. So business impact is going to kill my business. My senior leagues, my

[15:23] bowling tournaments, all go over two hours. It's going to be devastating.

[15:27] During this 6 hours that I have known about this, I've heard from Studio A,

[15:30] Dicks, Hockey, Deno, Pys, Jackpot, Staple, Looking Glass, Ocio Cleaners,

[15:34] Valley Spirits, Valley Studs, Ace Hard, myself, Watershed, and the Mill and 1500

[15:38] people have signed the petition, including 300 in the last six hours. I

[15:42] implore you to listen to their voices on this issue. And it's frustrating that

[15:46] our business voices feel like we're not being heard.

[15:49] » Thanks, Eric.

[15:56] Anybody else wish to address the board?

[16:04] Nobody else, we will move on from item four to item five on the agenda, which

[16:10] is staff reports. So, we're going to start with uh 5A1 police.

[16:16] » You get 10 or [clears throat]

[16:20] AJ's at a conference in Wisconsin this week.

[16:23] » Uh good evening everyone. As Deon mentioned, Chief Bach is at the annual

[16:27] chief's conference. My name is Tanner Revan. If anyone hasn't met me, I've

[16:30] been employed with the village since fall of 2019 as a police officer. I'm

[16:35] the most senior guy right after Chief Box. So, in January of 2026, OciOla PD

[16:40] officers completed 70 incident reports and five traffic crash reports. Our

[16:46] officers made nine arrests, including five felony arrests. Our officers

[16:50] initiated 233 traffic stops and issued 115 citations. Our police administrative

[16:57] assistant processed 10 requests for records and/or background pet background

[17:02] checks. School resource officer Trembley responded to nine school related

[17:06] incidents in the month of January. Some of the notable incidents which our

[17:11] officers responded to in January included a burglary attempt where a

[17:15] suspect attempt to enter an occupied residence. This incident is currently

[17:20] under investigation. Our department took a report of sexual assault that occurred

[17:25] within the village. Following further investigation, our officers executed a

[17:30] search warrant at a residence to collect evidence and arrested the suspect who

[17:34] was subsequently charged with two counts of secondderee sexual assault.

[17:39] Our officers have been diligent on traffic enforcement and drug

[17:42] interdiction. In January alone, our officers had three OWI related arrests,

[17:47] including a felony OWI4th offense and seven marijuana related stops with over

[17:53] 46 physical grams of THC positive material, as well as as seven THC vape

[17:59] devices or pens have been collected. Each THC pen could potentially contain

[18:04] the equivalent of over 40 grams of marijuana. And we have noted that these

[18:08] devices have been more popular alternatives used by the younger

[18:11] demographic. We concluded our low light inclement

[18:16] weather shoot at the Ocula Ryman Gun Club. I'll personally note it was

[18:19] negative 25 degrees at that time. So inclement weather is correct. During

[18:24] this training, we also qualified our new officers with our department long guns.

[18:28] Officer Reban, myself, and Chief B completed their instructor development

[18:32] curriculum required for reapplying for certification as an instructor.

[18:37] myself, Officer Miller, Trembley, and Chief Bach

[18:42] reertified as basic and toxic meter operators. Officers Dodge and Valene

[18:46] will be attending the operator certification course later this year. I

[18:51] have been working hard processing evidence scheduled to be purged from our

[18:54] inventory. We are also establishing a department seizure program which would

[18:58] allow the Ocola Police Department to recoup some costs associated with

[19:02] investigations by seizing assets such as currency or vehicles that were used in

[19:07] the commission of various felony level offenses.

[19:13] » How much cash have you found so far? >> Just while purging the evidence room, it

[19:17] was approximately we had four over $4,000 in seized cash from two drug bus.

[19:22] And going through the process, we were able to recoup 2,000 of that for

[19:26] department costs. And the other 2,000 was sent to the state school fund per

[19:30] statute. [clears throat and cough]

[19:34] » I think it's somewhere else, but I'm going to ask it here. Is there a isn't

[19:37] there a new truck on order going to be ordered or something?

[19:39] » Uh, it's on the CIP for order. So once the CIP gets approved and all that, then

[19:44] we can go forward with it. >> And then the the new uh the radios have

[19:49] been implemented. >> The radios have arrived. Yes.

[19:52] » I don't know. Are they working good? >> Um, a few have them already. So, yes,

[19:56] they required new mounts. One of our officers had a soft mount, so he is able

[20:00] to use it. Second officer was able to get his hard mount, so he is using it.

[20:04] And our third officer is just waiting for the last one to show up. But all

[20:07] indicators are that they work great in the village. So,

[20:16] » thanks. >> You can fill in anytime. [laughter]

[20:20] » All right. All right, next up, public works.

[20:29] Hey, good evening everyone.

[20:35] January was a little crazy weatherwise, but um

[20:42] we welcome the cold spell. uh gives us time to focus on things like I mentioned

[20:48] in the report and inventorying and getting our our shop back into a

[20:53] workable space. Generally, it's kind of crazy um to do some things during the

[20:58] transition of seasons, but these really cold periods allow us to focus on

[21:03] equipment and getting our stuff back in order, getting

[21:07] ready for a new year and a new season. But multiple snow events in January uh

[21:13] and continued maintenance weekly removing snow and ice. A lot of

[21:16] freezing, thawing ice like that. So these little dustings and this freezing

[21:21] and thawing is sometimes more of a nuisance than just getting like a foot

[21:23] of snow. uh secure [clears throat] an additional

[21:27] salt for 2026 here thinking we're going to get through the rest of the season

[21:30] given the current um uh weather we're having but a seage across the Midwest

[21:36] forced us to kind of emergency um purchase the salt that was necessary.

[21:44] The county and state unfortunately cut everyone off. So we were thankful with

[21:50] our local community to get our salt in a timely manner.

[21:56] uh continue clean and dancing storm sewer openings. Uh that's been non-stop.

[22:01] You'll see us out there opening catch basins constantly and utilizing some

[22:05] salt in some areas or even sometimes steaming or jetting things to get them

[22:09] open. Uh street lights have been repaired

[22:12] downtown. Everything's been functioning well at this point. Um we know we have

[22:16] uh new light post, short one that came in on uh Second Avenue, the parking lot

[22:22] there. It's only been hit about five times now. Um, so we look forward to

[22:28] having that replaced. As I mentioned last month, uh, we were

[22:33] just waiting one more acceptance for our city application has been approved.

[22:37] We're approaching 20 years, a 50-year program. So, it's pretty neat to be a

[22:40] pro part of that whole process. Um, ice skating rink is open along with our

[22:45] warming shack. We can see it's been utilized. Uh we've been keeping up on

[22:49] it, but even today we'll see a little colder weather overnight. Um have fresh

[22:55] fresh to skate on tomorrow. Uh restroom floors. Some of our

[23:00] restrooms are seeing overhaul, including in our shop. But uh we did was we sanded

[23:04] them down and uh applied a uh an epox epoxy paint. One of those things

[23:11] that again we're just getting ready for thousands of visitors to no pond

[23:14] restrooms and stuff like that. um for the year tree pruning

[23:22] very high along with dealing with our emerald bore trees, public trees. Um I

[23:27] think we're going to we're set for taking about six more down this week.

[23:30] We're going to concentrate on Third Avenue. So you'll see us out and about a

[23:34] lot of trees going to be coming down with this better weather. uh tree

[23:37] pruning in parks and was the time to just go ahead and just really start uh

[23:41] letting them up appropriately, getting them trimmed up, getting ready for the

[23:45] budding season, and then planning over second for Grismo and Gateway Metal

[23:49] Parks. It's a brief update. Uh a lot of the uh the stairway has arrived, bulk

[23:55] parts are being uh behind the old DQ site on village property at this time.

[24:02] Made several mentions. we have appropriate space, other spaces

[24:07] available for them seem to work for them logistically to have it there and

[24:11] looking forward to start putting stuff together soon. Uh, as they stated in the

[24:14] last meeting we had last week. Yeah. Any questions?

[24:22] AJ learned that not always is the state contract the most economical place. So,

[24:27] I see you're shopping or buying a truck. >> Correct. you know, shopping and seeking.

[24:34] Yes. >> Yeah. It

[24:36] I've done state contract stuff for what I do, too. Yep.

[24:38] » You put a number out that you know you can sell it for. It doesn't always mean

[24:41] that just like AJ found that you can get a better deal. Sometimes if there's

[24:45] rebates and somebody gets more aggressive. So,

[24:48] » you're absolutely correct. I look forward to presenting um that here

[24:52] shortly and the steps that they took in looking after regional, state, and just

[24:57] dealer incentives and getting the best deal. Awesome.

[25:01] The um I know we were conversing. I struggle with I've mentioned this before

[25:06] the meeting. I struggle with the email system here in the in the um the Apple

[25:10] format. I'd much rather do a PC type outlook. Did we have a meeting this week

[25:15] for public works? >> We don't. Okay.

[25:18] » Um I think I got everyone's feedback recommendations in the past.

[25:21] » Yeah, >> I received all three emails. I know I do

[25:24] apologize as we did have some snow and some other things going on. It missed

[25:28] yours as I mentioned. It's fine. So I do intend on fulling fully sticking to the

[25:34] calendar, the yearly calendar. And >> we missed the December one and that was

[25:38] where the conversation kind of started. >> June, our last one was in June, correct?

[25:42] » Yeah, our last June. So we missed two, I think.

[25:44] » Oh, okay. I know we missed December because I remember asking about it.

[25:48] » Sure. >> Um and that's one where it's like I I

[25:50] would love to see us book them out for the year. So I can plan because it it

[25:54] isn't just even us sitting here in meetings. It's the public too.

[25:57] » No, absolutely. I look forward to that for benefit. And by all means, if

[26:02] something happens and it snows, change it. I mean, we all get it. Um just the

[26:07] further we can plan in advance, the better.

[26:09] » That sounds good. >> Don't have a meeting this week.

[26:12] » We will not be having that meeting tomorrow. I hope that I clarified in the

[26:15] last email that I look forward to the >> You did. I just couldn't figure out

[26:18] which one came when. >> Yeah.

[26:20] » So, the chicken and egg thing. [laughter] got a little confusing. You

[26:23] apologize, but we look forward to a March 25th meeting.

[26:26] » It's outlook. >> Okay. Or not outlook, but whatever.

[26:28] » Yeah, it was supposed to be a special meeting due to some some circumstances,

[26:31] but it's all in the board packet tonight and that's why the meeting was canceled.

[26:34] » That's fine. >> Just

[26:36] user. >> I 100% agree. It's the user. 100% agree.

[26:41] [laughter] Just fine. >> I've just never been. It's never cleaned

[26:45] up. >> Set up Outlook soon. I don't know.

[26:50] I >> usually can follow them if it's not a

[26:52] bunch of people. >> Yeah, I'm in it at work all day. Like

[26:54] I'm constantly checking. So yeah, I can show you how if you want.

[27:00] » Any [clears throat] other questions? >> What um as long as you're up here? The

[27:03] lighting over at Shelberg. >> Yes.

[27:06] » What's the equipment there you use to run it? Is it just a basic time clock?

[27:10] » Yeah. And we've actually gone to even more simplified uh manual timers.

[27:15] » Okay. >> Yeah. Um, unfortunately, yeah, we've

[27:17] we've tried some of the higherend stuff that has failed or has been very

[27:21] technical and very twitchy. >> Yeah, your basic time clock somebody

[27:24] puts on their pool. It's nice and easy. >> That's what we have.

[27:27] » Those cells suck. >> Yeah, we we'll talk about that in that

[27:29] shelber discussion.

[27:35] » Thank you. >> Thanks.

[27:36] » Thank you. >> Right. Next up, utilities.

[27:44] » [cough and clears throat] >> Hey, good evening everybody.

[27:48] So, uh, recent updates to our billing system. Uh, monthly bills are issued,

[27:52] uh, successfully. Uh, significant efforts on our utilities clerk made that

[27:56] process really smooth. There's a lot of technical, uh, uh, detail that goes into

[28:00] that on the back end of our billing system and she did wonderful with it.

[28:03] Um, we have a couple meters that we need to follow up and it seems like the

[28:06] signals aren't getting out. Maybe like a a tin roof situation that uh, might have

[28:10] to move some stuff around. So, we're still following up with a couple meters

[28:13] on our list. Uh cold weather. This this was really I don't know. This month was

[28:18] just something because uh we had uh several light failures in homes. A lot

[28:23] of call outs to shut water off, water running on basement or you know, burst

[28:27] pipes and things like that. Um more so than usual, but uh you know, all went

[28:32] really well. We were able to respond within minutes and get that water shut

[28:35] off uh for the customers. um working with the treasur to get the annual

[28:39] report, the PSC annual report done and the audit requests in on a timely

[28:42] fashion and uh we assisted just this isn't a

[28:47] report but I thought about it when we're talking about River Street. We assisted

[28:51] with uh the surveying over there opening the uh the manholes and things of course

[28:55] we we chose like the coldest week of the year to do that and uh we had snow and

[28:59] so we were busting through ice you know yay big with SDS's and things and um

[29:03] went well but we we we were kind of laughing. Of course, this wasn't in the

[29:06] week after when it was supposed to be 30 something degrees. Just seems to be how

[29:10] it goes. Um, Excel Energy blasted us out of bed at 4:00 in the morning, deciding

[29:14] to load shed. So, I got the cops speed. It was 28 below when we were here. U

[29:19] [laughter] program the generator, make sure it's

[29:22] going to run. We are on a load shed program. So, uh, we need a reduced

[29:26] utility rate if we are able to, uh, remove the entire plant's load to, uh,

[29:30] our generator power upon request. Um that is the first time we've been called

[29:34] overnight. Uh I woke up going who who from a 1-800 number calls at 4:00 in the

[29:41] morning. So found out it was Excel. Uh that went well. Whole process went well.

[29:46] Um they called again. We had several several times we had to load shed. So

[29:49] the grid must have been really taxed on those days where it was so cold out. Any

[29:53] questions on the report? >> They actually make you answer the phone

[29:57] overnight for that. Like it's in a contract somewhere.

[30:00] » It's in a contract somewhere. I've never

[30:03] » penalties if you don't. >> Huge penalties if you don't. Right.

[30:06] » That's right. So, you save you save money on your rate, but the penalty if

[30:10] [clears throat] you miss it is is pretty hefty hefty.

[30:13] » Well, thank you for answering the phone. >> No problem.

[30:15] » Take that number. >> Yes, we do. We do have it [laughter]

[30:19] text too. And so I got the text afterwards and I'm like,

[30:22] » you know, whenever you get, you know, a phone call in the middle of that, you're

[30:25] going to be disoriented, you know. And so I was just looking at it. I figured

[30:28] it was a lawn dialer from work. >> That's when it gets cold. and uh getting

[30:31] called in for you know a water [snorts] system problem or a sewer system problem

[30:35] or something and uh it was kind of comical when I saw the 1800 I was like

[30:39] who would that be you know and then yeah it's two you know one one made two and

[30:44] it was it was accelerating took care of it so

[30:48] » I was [laughter] >> that's kind of what I was thinking I was

[30:51] just like what >> so

[30:56] » I got two things for you >> sure

[30:57] » thanks for stopping down and talking Mitch

[30:59] » oh Yeah. Yeah. >> Um and the schedule values looks good.

[31:03] » Yeah. >> The billing.

[31:04] » Okay. >> That [clears throat] actually there's

[31:06] three things. Um >> the third one, the I happen to be just

[31:10] looking at another SCADA system to bid. >> Sure.

[31:13] » The it's a couple hundred thousand. >> Yeah.

[31:16] » And I know you were talking before like you thought we could get by with doing

[31:19] some band-aids and stuff or where are you at with that?

[31:22] » Actually, you'll see it at a committee level is um last time we went to

[31:25] committee we talked about splitting it out and you know is okay to split this

[31:28] out. We explored that, you know, basically do what you got to do, Rick.

[31:31] Um, we wanted to explore for functionality. You know, what we what we

[31:34] lose in our SCADA system as it is is we don't have no visibility into it. And so

[31:39] we uh after having radio issues over December over Christmas break and we had

[31:43] to actually send somebody, somebody has to physically be here to do all of these

[31:46] things versus just checking it on like an iPad or an iPhone computer at home or

[31:50] something like that. We said, gosh, we really need some visibility. It's 2026,

[31:54] you know, we need some visibility into this. So, uh, the original quote, I

[31:58] believe, was 230,000, but 60,000 of thatish was radios. And

[32:03] so, we were we were pretty on the mark with that. Um, with the radios

[32:07] themselves, then we split that that section out and we actually I contacted

[32:11] to uh um like we had talked about a committee to go through that quote with

[32:15] us, make sure we're moving in the right direction, the pricing's good,

[32:17] everything's looking good. So, you'll actually see that committee um if we if

[32:20] we get uh the time to get that all together by committee. So, so that's

[32:25] what that's where that sits. >> Just was more I was more than talked

[32:28] about initially and where you're hoping to get by and it's

[32:30] » I think it's important, >> right?

[32:32] » Thank you for that. So, we we'll get by. Uh the the plan right now is to get by

[32:36] with the radios. The radios are are the the major issue. Whereas, if we have a

[32:40] radio failure, we have to replace all the PLC's or we have to replace all the

[32:43] radios at the same time. Sorry. We have to replace all the radios at the same

[32:46] time. If we have a radio failure, we have a PLC failure, you have to replace

[32:48] the PLC and all the radios at the same time. So we're buying a little bit of

[32:52] time to explore what do we do with this SCADA system? What kind of visibility we

[32:55] need to into it? Do we want to add any functionality? Do we want pressure

[32:58] sensors here? Do we want you know and part of that is going to be going to

[33:02] other communities and you know that sign that did significant rec and look at

[33:07] what they have and see how that applies to us you know within within reason.

[33:11] I still have a lot of security and things in mind. So there's nothing I'm a

[33:15] big fan of a physical stop. Nothing really replaces a physical stop on site

[33:19] where you can hear and smell in the wastewater taste, you know. Uh,

[33:24] » no. >> I'm still dumbfounded about some of the

[33:27] manual things you guys do down there. What things that

[33:30] » it is an age? >> Please tell me you do not taste the

[33:32] water. [laughter] >> Thank you.

[33:35] » But I will say I will say all of our operators and myself included, we will

[33:39] walk into the plant and go, "What's wrong?" We can you can smell it. You can

[33:43] hear it. You get something there's something going on because you get used

[33:47] to it. >> Sometime that gets a little unhealthy

[33:50] then you know I don't tasting it. >> Look like who?

[33:54] » Oh yes. [laughter]

[33:58] » You got the tasting joke right away. [laughter]

[34:02] » So yeah that's where that sits. We're looking at doing the radios to get us

[34:05] out of the immediate jam that we're in. And [clears throat] then okay, how do we

[34:08] get some visibility into this? How are we bringing the system into the 21st

[34:11] century? The other side of that would then be to how do we get more visibility

[34:15] into the storage system and things. So that's that's where that sits.

[34:20] » Yeah, see committee. Thank you guys. >> Um I've heard a lot of good things about

[34:24] the monthly billing already. So >> as we have too um it was the monthly

[34:30] billing was a a customercentric focused initiative. I mean we looked at

[34:36] the system and said we have to >> my check.

[34:39] » What's that? >> You want my check? But I think Jen's

[34:41] still here actually. [laughter] She is inundated with work right now

[34:45] with court and everything too. Um, it was we we looked at we have to we have

[34:50] to do these meters. They're regulated. There's something we have to do. What is

[34:53] the value ad for the customer and what we do? And that's what we always look at

[34:56] that how are we adding value to the process to the customer and the end

[35:00] user. >> We've already found some leaks from the

[35:03] system. So it's been >> just monthly billing. I mean people have

[35:05] caught leaks way faster. We would have been two months three months throughout.

[35:08] That's a big bonus for sure. >> We uh one of the pipes that I talked

[35:13] about previously was a broken pipe in somebody's basement um between two walls

[35:17] where they did they didn't even notice. I mean they were going through hundreds

[35:20] of cubic feet. Hundreds of cubic feet >> but took down the milk house. Yep.

[35:24] » That's awesome. >> Yeah. Catching it fast. Yeah. It's it

[35:28] was really a customer centered push on that one.

[35:31] » A long process. It's good that you probably got it.

[35:34] » Yes. >> Yeah. Yeah. We Yep. We've been planning

[35:36] on that for for a long time. um over 10 years actually. So

[35:40] » definitely a congratulations on that because that's

[35:42] » yeah hopefully things smooth out after we get into AC and

[35:46] » yeah AC has taken off. We have you know well over 100 I just followed up with

[35:50] her on that. Well over 100 people I haven't yet please

[35:52] » which is which is 10% overall. I mean that that saves postage that's immediate

[35:57] uh all that that's that's an easy process. So, um, I've also heard that

[36:02] the monthly billing is is a much more palatable bill with the average

[36:05] residential is is, uh, well under $100 a month.

[36:10] » Definitely easy for budgeting and and making sure that

[36:13] » Thank you for the feedback on that. I'm going to relay that to to Jen.

[36:16] » Yeah, >> it's been uh it's been a lot of work.

[36:19] This was this this was a heavy heavy lift. Um and it will be it will continue

[36:24] to be for the next foreseeable future until you know things smooth out,

[36:28] processes get, you know, built up and we get into a rhythmic. Um we're still

[36:33] getting a lot of uh customer questions that need to be answered. Obviously that

[36:36] is sensitive and takes a lot of um staff time to do uh to make sure that we're

[36:40] getting people accurate information timely. Um but all normal things all

[36:44] normal things. So thank you all. >> Thank you. Anyone else?

[36:51] » Thanks. All right, next up, library.

[37:00] » Good evening, everyone. >> Uh, so during January, I attended the

[37:04] two-day Wild Wisconsin winter web conference via Zoom. And, um, through

[37:09] that, I was able to attend a variety of presentations ranging from community

[37:13] support to library collections to programming. And then the last week of

[37:16] the month, I spent u most of my time working on the library's annual report,

[37:20] which needs to be submitted to the department of um public instruction

[37:24] before the end of February. In January, we circulated 3,432

[37:29] items. We had 124 computer uses, 1584 ebook checkouts, and we had 20 new

[37:36] patrons. We added 227 new items to our shelves for circulation. And most of

[37:42] these were actually books that were ordered in December, but because um

[37:46] Ingram has so many people that they're trying to get on board, um they were

[37:50] backlogged and things got backorded. So we finally got those in January. And I

[37:55] continue to work with if list to set up EDI, which is our electronic data

[37:59] interchange ordering with Ingram. And then once that's fully set up, book

[38:05] orders will come directly into our ILS Sierra, which is if LAS's integrated

[38:10] library system. Um, and it will save a lot of time for me um saving receiving

[38:15] the books as they come into the library. Uh, we had many of our regular programs

[38:20] that occurred in January, including tech help, lunch with the librarian, fiber

[38:24] friends, storytime, Lego, and chess clubs, and the WNPL book discussion. and

[38:29] I delivered library materials to the patrons at Evergreen and Millside

[38:32] Apartments and Christian Community Home. And then we held our first ever craft

[38:37] supply swap where community members brought their unwanted but usable craft

[38:42] supplies to the library during a collection period. And then during the

[38:46] swap, those that donated were able to come that first hour of the swap and um

[38:51] get new supplies and take home. Most of them said they um had to make promises

[38:56] that they wouldn't bring back home things that they had originally donated.

[39:01] Um but we had over a hundred people attend and so this was something that

[39:05] was very popular and thank you Nicole for coming and helping us set up for

[39:08] that. That was awesome. >> You going to do that again?

[39:11] » Yes. So we're definitely going to do it again. Um I think a lot of people think

[39:14] we should do it twice a year. I think it's probably going to be a once a year

[39:18] endeavor for us. [laughter] Trying to store um all of the supplies

[39:22] in the library was a little tricky. Um and then the leftover things were

[39:27] donated to the Halberg Center for the Arts in Wyoming, Minnesota for their

[39:31] craft supply drive. And I am very happy to say that the phone drama is finally

[39:37] over. Um >> Bright Speed finally let go of their

[39:40] number. Huh. >> Um easy it. [laughter]

[39:44] » Yeah. So, um, Friday our number was ported over to Evergreen TEL and

[39:49] everything seems to be working well. And so now it's just a matter of staff

[39:53] learning how to transfer calls and all of that kind of stuff.

[39:56] » Keep Mike's number handy. He'll answer calls all the time. He will train you.

[39:59] He's great. >> He has been awesome through this whole

[40:02] process. And then I just wanted to um briefly touch on so last month the

[40:08] library board um approved the 2026 2031 um strategic plan. So this is something

[40:15] that we had worked on for um probably about nine months. Uh we had a um

[40:22] strategic plan committee that worked on it. So that was made up of myself, Deb

[40:26] Rose, library board member, Michelle Jacobs, a staff member, Barb Wetzel from

[40:30] the Friends of the Library, and then Melanie Bazil who is a library patron

[40:35] and community member. Um, so we put a lot of thought and effort into this. We

[40:40] had a lot of help from the list library system and Caitlyn from there came um

[40:45] and helped us with that. So if you have any questions about it, please feel free

[40:51] to come and um visit me at the library. Um, I don't want to take up a lot of

[40:55] your time here during the meeting talking about it, but I'm more than

[40:59] happy to discuss what our goals and activities are over the next five years.

[41:04] So, any questions?

[41:08] » All right. Well, thank you. >> Thanks, Ann.

[41:12] » All right. Next up, fire.

[41:18] » Hey, everybody. Uh, last month we had 11 runs total. Uh, seven are in the village

[41:24] of Oyola, two [clears throat] in the town of

[41:27] Farmington, uh, one structure fire, uh, mutual land with Allied Garfield, and

[41:33] one rescue ice rescue uh, with, uh, Balden. Um, Brun is, one structure fire,

[41:43] seven medical lift assists, one ice water rescue, and two alarms.

[41:50] The training for January was we uh stuffed envelopes and sent out for the

[41:56] fireman's pump and we also did [clears throat] chimney chimney fire

[42:02] response and training uh upcoming trainings. Uh we did HIPPA last night

[42:08] and bloodborne pathogens. At the end of the month we have official elections.

[42:14] And then uh last but not least is fireman's ball is Saturday night. So,

[42:19] you're all invited. Everybody's invited. Hopefully, they'll be seeing you there.

[42:25] Any questions? >> Was the uh was that mutual aid? Was that

[42:28] W? >> Yes.

[42:30] » Yeah. >> So, where are the next adjacent fire

[42:33] halls? Dresser >> dresser and then Garfield was just a

[42:38] block down.

[42:42] » Was that one right in Woo? >> Yes.

[42:47] » And where's the next one from there?

[42:50] Street >> and Amry. Yeah.

[42:52] » What's our next one? Like to the south Somerset.

[42:56] » Yep.

[43:00] » We have any beach laid with those guys if something happened that direction.

[43:03] » We do. So

[43:06] » I didn't realize there was one right in wanderings. I was trying to think about

[43:09] who would get there faster. control

[43:14] is only 10,000 gallons of water stock in the ground. So they don't have much

[43:20] water take water from rest.

[43:29] » You got the ball. >> All right.

[43:32] » Thanks, Paul. >> Okay. Next up, building inspection and

[43:37] administration. Building inspection is pretty boring. You got one sprinkler

[43:41] system out in the industrial park for $80,000 value. Um, usually January is a

[43:46] slow month. Uh, we should be seeing the building permit for the gun apartment

[43:51] complex shortly. And then um um some other various ones here and

[43:59] there too. So there's some growth happening this year which we're excited

[44:01] about. And then I'll dive right into admin. Uh Eric and I did um a River and

[44:08] Third Street um informational meeting for the public last week. We had about

[44:12] did you say about 15 people there um kind of tell them the process that we're

[44:16] going through. Uh the house going to switch to a oneway from River to third.

[44:22] Um making sure that they're aware that uh there will be heavy equipment on

[44:26] site. uh we asked to make sure uh if they're worried about their basement

[44:29] that you know we can go in and take pictures ahead of time making sure

[44:32] everything is when they're done the exact same way as when it started so

[44:35] there's no impact there and just kind of give them the timeline of potential

[44:39] dates. We won't have a secured timeline until we have a contractor selected

[44:44] after this bid process happens uh which we should be starting tonight. Um but

[44:48] overall good feedback. They appreciated the the meeting to be to be listened to

[44:53] and for us to present. Uh Todd and I and Eric attended the Verizon tower

[45:00] pre-construction meeting over in Noki Park. Um they should be he said March

[45:05] 1st they should be starting on that police started pouring footings. So

[45:09] sometime in March we can expect that. Um the buildout of the tower itself is only

[45:13] 30 days, but after that Verizon takes their time to get or Dolan in this case

[45:18] takes their time to get the the antenna stuff up. So we're still looking a few

[45:21] months out from the overall full install of that tower.

[45:25] » Any intrusion with regard to the Braves practice schedule

[45:28] » shouldn't be on that. No, they should be done by the time the construction of the

[45:31] tower should be done by the time >> but the installation of the radio. So

[45:34] there's a ladder truck there, I'm assuming.

[45:36] » Uh it should happen during the daytime, your normal work hours. So should have

[45:40] no impact on the Braves. They're aware of that it being an existing ball field.

[45:43] So we can always put conditions on that too. But I don't foresee any any lapse

[45:48] or >> lap of of services there.

[45:51] » They're local contact with Verizon that you can maybe forward to the board in

[45:54] case we get customer Dolan realy because they're they're the lees actually Dolan

[45:59] owns it and they lease it out to Verizon and Dolan's based out of Missouri. Uh

[46:03] their contractor was building it though is local. I was thinking more so if

[46:07] community residents come to us and say, "How do we get in touch with Verizon

[46:10] about getting started with them now that there's a tower in town?" Like that's

[46:14] what I wanted to know. >> Your local Verizon shop, whatever that

[46:16] would be, I'm guessing. But um when it goes live, I'll let you know. But right

[46:20] now, it's kind of at the mercy of Dolan and their contractor.

[46:23] » And the timeline with uh storm siren folks that

[46:28] » Well, that's the next thing. We just met with them last week. So, we'll get that

[46:31] lined up to making sure that when the tower is up, then we can get it

[46:34] installed. Great to have a siren in place for storm season.

[46:37] » Yeah. >> Yep.

[46:40] » We'll get that lined up so we can install it on on the site.

[46:44] » Um start start of the new year. I've been

[46:47] reached out to by two Minnesota businesses looking to come across the

[46:51] border. Uh some of the political landscape over there has opened up their

[46:55] eyes and potentially coming to Wisconsin for a relocation. I am currently in

[47:00] communication with them looking for sites. Um the good news is the village

[47:04] does own a few parts of land that we can help uh get these uh businesses

[47:09] hopefully over into Oyola which would be a big boost for for us and for our

[47:13] population at hand and potentially creating lots of jobs. One of them is a

[47:17] 250 person employer. So there are some hefty hefty employment numbers from some

[47:22] of these these companies looking to move over. Uh these should be these will be

[47:27] active um recruitment. So a lot of other business or cities, Hudson, St. Croy

[47:33] Falls, they're looking at they want to dip their toe in Wisconsin, not go all

[47:37] the way in. So here we're good good situated for that as we're close to a

[47:41] lot of the population bases that they want to be close to.

[47:46] Uh planning commission is undertaking uh chapter 219 revisions, which is our

[47:51] zoning, which involves commercial, industrial, and residential. Uh we've

[47:55] been getting input into that uh of what we'd like to see changed. As we change

[48:01] it, uh we'll be running through some of the ordinances and bring them to the

[48:04] board probably towards the end of the year. It's a very um labor intensive

[48:08] process for me. Uh and then and getting their feedback and trying to wrap that

[48:13] into a coherent ordinance is a is a very big undertaking. And a lot of this is

[48:19] being driven from our comprehensive plan. Uh that's generally the process

[48:22] that you do is you approve the comprehensive plan and then you try to

[48:26] implement the comprehensive plan into your zoning and that's one of those

[48:29] things we're looking at doing making sure that uh are the items in the

[48:34] comprehensive plan something we want to enforce or just have it as guidelines.

[48:37] So that that's kind of what we're going through right now as planning commission

[48:40] level and as we get further along the board will be involved in the approval

[48:44] process once the ordinances go further. Uh prep preparations are well underway

[48:49] for the elections. Carrie's been running her new Badger books, making sure

[48:53] they're updated uh for the election coming up. Is it April 4th? 7th. April

[48:58] 7th is the election date. So, there will be a new um system for checking in when

[49:03] you vote this year. Uh it should go a lot smoother and faster for for

[49:06] check-ins and we're excited about that. And you guys have some trains coming up

[49:09] too, right? Uh the ice rink is open as we mentioned.

[49:14] Um we finally got that open. The weather allowed it. So, thank you Todd for

[49:18] getting that going. Uh the Whispering Acres PUD, which is south of the

[49:22] airport, is under contract by a new developer, so we might be seeing some um

[49:27] headway with that very soon. The PUD was approved. Um so they still have to

[49:33] operate within the PUB guidelines. Um so we might see a development or at least a

[49:38] plat coming forward in the next coming months for that uh with

[49:42] » that would go to plan first, right? >> Yep. With a new with a new developer. So

[49:46] that's [clears throat] that's exciting to have. Um

[49:50] this month we're having a stakeholder meeting for Shelberg Park about how we

[49:53] want to improve that park and make it into um a more accessible

[49:59] um installation whether it be for walking, running, biking. Uh we invited

[50:03] some of the local biking groups, trail running groups, the school, the boy

[50:08] scouts. So we should have a pretty good idea of what we want to do with that

[50:11] park. Um the OciOla Trails and Parks Committee is looking for a project uh

[50:16] and spend some of the resources on. So, this is really what led this is they

[50:20] want to know what they can provide their money for to help projects and this is

[50:23] kind of going to be the steering for that of what projects we'd like to see

[50:26] in Schillberg Park. U making sure it's going to be a wellused park. We saw how

[50:31] important is to design something for people that are going to use it that

[50:34] they design it. Uh the skate park is a prime example of that. I saw kids uh

[50:38] skateboarding there on Monday, just yesterday. I think it was warm out and

[50:43] they're already using the skate park. So if you build it for people that are

[50:46] going to use it, it will be used. So it's important that we listen to the

[50:50] stakeholders when we design Schillberg Park. Uh they're also working on the

[50:54] Ocio trails and committee is also working on Austria Creek Trail. Uh it's

[50:59] currently DNR own land. I should be getting a resolution from the DNR

[51:03] shortly allowing the village to have an easement on their property uh to allow

[51:07] the Ocio Trails and Parks Group to conduct bog bridges along along the

[51:12] creek. Uh part of that project too is Cedar Ben is interested in potentially

[51:17] building a pedestrian bridge across OciOla Creek 2, which would then allow

[51:21] us greater access to the parking lot behind the busy bean. Uh so it kind of

[51:26] brings in Eric's nice comment of making that lot more available to people. Um

[51:32] that we're working together trying to find many people to allow us to do these

[51:35] type of projects. As we all know, funds are always tight for these for um

[51:40] unbudgeted items. So, we're grateful for all the support that these groups are

[51:44] willing to provide to make our parks much more um vibrant.

[51:51] And then I want to thanks admin for taking all the tax collection for the

[51:55] month. They do a great job. And uh we should be settling up with the county

[51:59] either this week or next week, the rest of the taxing jurisdiction. So, we'll be

[52:02] writing some big checks the next few weeks to the county, the school

[52:05] district, and the tech school. Any questions on the admin report?

[52:10] » I got a couple. I was holding them until the end. Sorry. So, I'm going to go

[52:17] » I ask I'll ask a quick question before. >> Thank you for doing that. Um with the

[52:22] parking utilization behind um busy bean if that comes to fruition. Um can we

[52:28] make sure that we're talking to the bid about that as well for um see if they

[52:32] want to have any action into that >> uh to to pave it and make it flatter?

[52:37] Yeah, that's the biggest problem we have right now is and I know they have some

[52:40] money that they're willing to do. Um once they have a new hopefully new

[52:43] director in place shortly, uh we can get that conversation rolling again.

[52:47] » That's got like 30 grand or something, right?

[52:50] » Uh more than that. >> Okay. It was a big number.

[52:53] » Yeah, it's it's far more than that. Um >> I'm going off of memory.

[52:56] » Yeah. >> Yeah. Because Wyatt and I were in

[52:58] conversation already about what what to do with that parking space.

[53:02] » Um back to River Street. I remember Eric you talked about doing some surveys or

[53:07] having a contingency for surveying money along there. What was it? Do you

[53:11] remember why we have a concern about where

[53:14] » Yeah, there was >> things were

[53:16] » it came up at one of the early meetings that the the property lines were

[53:21] incorrect at one of the parsons >> for an outfall.

[53:26] » Yeah. And that's what what it was too. And uh you know, we've now we're looking

[53:32] at multiple outfalls. We're actually looking at eliminating two of them um

[53:38] with this project, creating a new one, and hopefully eliminating a third one

[53:42] future, all on private property right now. So, it clicked in my head because

[53:48] you talked about doing project documentation and taking photos. Um, I

[53:52] think that I'm going to guess there's going to be some pretty deep excavation

[53:57] out along River Street and having impacting people and I'm sure we're

[54:01] going to get JNS is going to get poked at or we'll get drugged into claims that

[54:05] old basement are jiggling around and rocks are falling out.

[54:08] » That's exactly what I want with the documentation.

[54:10] » Yeah, you said it loosely. I'd highly highly highly say we go into any

[54:16] basement. Great idea. you know. So, I brought that

[54:20] up at the public involvement meeting and uh I

[54:25] basically requested that we be able to do it. They were willing to let us in

[54:29] and and document it before work is done just so you can be sure

[54:33] » and it's for their own good. So, >> yeah.

[54:36] » The church was >> open to it. They wanted to do it.

[54:40] » Where did we leave off with the sidewalk on gone side? Who owns that? Who's going

[54:45] to own the any is there street lighting going in there? So, there's street

[54:49] lighting that's going in. Um, >> is this on the agenda? Is this on the

[54:52] agenda later? >> Yeah, we can wait.

[54:54] » We can wait. Perfect. That's fine. Um, Verizon tower. Did you ever meet with

[54:58] that homeowner and talk about the all the vegetation that's got to come down?

[55:02] » We we did mention that the trees are going to have to come in. So, we will

[55:04] have to talk to him about um cuz it will force if the trees got to come down, it

[55:09] will be on the the developers or the the builder's cost to to build take those

[55:13] trees down >> as long as the whole

[55:15] » cuz right now uh we don't have to cut it down to the property line, but the tree

[55:19] is dead anyways. >> There's a lot there.

[55:21] » So, um I'm going to talk to the property owner and just make sure that we can

[55:24] just remove them on on the cost of Dolan. Uh and then and then the property

[55:28] owner doesn't have to worry about taking down his own trees. I don't want us

[55:31] getting stuck with a half a tree later because they only did part of it and all

[55:35] » that was brought up at our pre-con meeting.

[55:38] [clears throat] [snorts] Um

[55:42] the Shelberg Park I think the park group is great. I just I in the back of my

[55:48] mind I think about all the times we've given parks to other entities. They've

[55:51] done work and then can't maintain it. Um it and that's a big undertaking for

[55:57] them. You know there's other trails in town and they seem to hold up okay. I

[56:00] don't know what Todd's impact is for long-term maintenance on them. That's

[56:04] just a bigger bite. >> Yeah, we we're making sure that we get

[56:06] we just want to get feedback of what people want and then from there really

[56:10] see what the feasibility of those type of projects are. Uh for instance, trail

[56:13] running is as simple as having basically a groom trail, a dirt trail. Um they

[56:19] just want markers like half mile, quarter mile, whatever it might be. If

[56:22] it's that all they want, that's an easy undertaking to do

[56:24] » as long as it maintains. >> In terms of building structures for like

[56:28] um single track mountain biking, that is a far bigger undertaking. I do agree

[56:32] with that. >> Okay. As long as Perfect. the the bog

[56:37] bridge, the um the stuff behind uh we'll just say by the the lower mill

[56:44] pond, what what is uh what's the church's involvement in it? The church

[56:49] has expressed interest to build a pedestrian bridge. Uh unrelated, but

[56:53] we're trying to tie that in with them, too. Uh in the past, they have they've

[56:57] uh said that they'd be willing to talk about potentially pedestrian bridge

[57:01] there because they have a lot of people that come to that little corner church

[57:04] there and it be easier and it' be easier parking everybody else.

[57:08] » Okay. And then the DNR property, is that just related

[57:12] to the >> the bog bridge I was talking about? Uh

[57:15] because they want to do it all along the creek. the village only owns up to a

[57:19] certain point. So the DNR has to give the village access to do it, which then

[57:24] we will give anou with the trails group. So we have to be the entity that allows

[57:28] it though. Uh so that's where it gets gets a little confusing.

[57:31] » But I'm looking at the GIS right now. The DNR property doesn't start until you

[57:36] get quite a ways back to the northeast. >> Yep. I just had a meeting with them want

[57:40] the bridge to be up that far. >> No, no, that's different. The bridge is

[57:44] going to cross where the busy bean is. They're creating a bog bridge along the

[57:47] creek side. So So you can do a have a walking path around it.

[57:50] » So is there a So it's not a bridge to the other side.

[57:54] » Um at at what they're proposing right now, that would not be the bridge.

[57:57] That's why I said those are those are two different

[57:59] » two different bridges. >> Two different bridges type things. Yeah.

[58:01] » So who's going to build a bridge across the creek?

[58:04] » That that would be potentially Cedar Bend and the Trails Group.

[58:07] » Okay. So they're still looking at >> Okay. But neither the DNR would be

[58:11] involved because of the creek side. >> Yeah. I was blending some things

[58:14] together there. >> It's it's um once again all this might

[58:18] not happen. We're just in communication with all the

[58:20] » I think everybody would be in favor of a bridge and utilizing

[58:25] area. Um okay, that might be it. Hang on.

[58:29] Maybe turn the next page.

[58:36] I think that's it. Thanks. Anybody else have any questions for Devon on the

[58:43] » Oh, I had one more question. >> Sorry. Because it wasn't on this list.

[58:47] Um I thought it was in one of your weekly emails. It actually I looked

[58:51] back. It was in Todd's. >> There was a pending meeting with the

[58:54] fair board. Oh, I I couldn't make it. I was dealing with this really bad that

[59:00] week. So, I did meet with Brandon from the fair board and I said that the

[59:04] village is is all in favor of helping however we can to make this the best

[59:08] event for everyone. I expressed that the village wants to work with the fair

[59:12] board uh just as long as we we plan to have a pre-sight meeting sometime in a

[59:16] in April or May to really realign out where the parking is going to be and

[59:20] those type of things. But we really want to meet earlier. Um I really wanted to

[59:25] make the meeting. Unfortunately, I had no voice so I couldn't even speak. Um,

[59:28] but I did relay that to Brandon uh with the fair board about our willingness to

[59:33] work with them and that we want to make sure this the best event for the public.

[59:35] I 100% agree early. I'd like to see you do March so you could come back to us in

[59:39] April and then there's can be some banter back and forth. I'd hate to have

[59:42] this wait till April, May, and then not us on the board not hear about it until

[59:46] August and then all of a sudden boom, it's September.

[59:48] » Yeah. And we realize too that we they they also realize too that they have to

[59:52] submit their permit earlier so we can get notes to them way ahead of time too.

[59:56] uh they can't submit it in July like last year.

[59:59] » That's the same with every veter. >> Yeah.

[1:00:01] » Well, especially one that brings in thousands of people, [clears throat]

[1:00:04] » you know. Okay. If we can get I don't if that can be a topic maybe for maybe Todd

[1:00:09] your report next month or something. I'd like to keep tracking it. Good for

[1:00:14] everybody. Okay. No, I'm done. Promise.

[1:00:20] Else. All right. Thanks, Devin. Uh 5B is not

[1:00:26] applicable. So we're going to move to item six on the agenda, which is the

[1:00:30] public hearing portion of our meeting to accept written and oral testimony

[1:00:34] regarding village ordinance 2601. We're going to be amending chapter 2011, the

[1:00:38] utility to add article 6, storm water utility to the village code.

[1:00:45] At this point, we are open to accept written and oral testimony from anybody

[1:00:50] as uh a public hearing. I don't Do we need a motion to open this public

[1:00:54] hearing? >> Yes, please.

[1:00:56] » I make a motion.

[1:01:01] » And I'll second. [laughter]

[1:01:05] » Have a motion by Mike and a second by Nicole.

[1:01:08] » Open the public hearing. >> To open the public hearing. All those in

[1:01:10] favor say I. >> I.

[1:01:12] » I. Both say no. All right, we are open.

[1:01:20] Kimmel County, 5043rd Avenue. On your key points here on this, you're

[1:01:27] going to set a uh another resolution for the amount

[1:01:32] of what this storm is going to cost us. Why isn't that in here? We don't know

[1:01:35] what the cost is. So, you're going to pass a resolution and not tell us what

[1:01:39] the cost is.

[1:01:43] That's later. But, I mean, why? It could be any amount then. Why would we pass

[1:01:47] something and we not know what we're going to get charged?

[1:01:50] I don't understand why that isn't in there.

[1:01:54] Uh [groaning] that to me didn't seem right that we

[1:01:58] that you didn't set uh what the rates were or anything which should be easy to

[1:02:03] set cuz when it first come out you said 275 $2.75 and stuff but now

[1:02:11] could be 10 times that. It could be the same as the water bill could be 60 bucks

[1:02:15] a month 80 bucks. So, I don't know why you should pass that. And then I think

[1:02:20] on the end where it says uh when you have an administrative appeal, you

[1:02:25] should maybe talk to your corp council. Shouldn't that go through the BOA?

[1:02:29] Usually an administrative appeal goes to a board of adjustments.

[1:02:34] So, that's all I have. Thank you.

[1:02:38] » Thanks, Kim.

[1:02:45] 5B. Uh, it said that there was no report for the Oola Wisconsin Main Street. It

[1:02:49] said NA on the Yeah, it said NA on the

[1:02:55] Sorry. Anybody else on public hearing?

[1:03:02] I'll entertain a motion to close it. >> Public hearing.

[1:03:05] » Second it. >> Okay. A motion by Mike and a second by

[1:03:09] Nicole to close public hearing. All those in favor say I. I. Post say no.

[1:03:14] Motion carries. All right. After that is 6A, any action that we may take on the

[1:03:22] public hearing. And I think that uh Kim brings up a good

[1:03:27] point, but I think we also don't we have a rate schedule at the back of our

[1:03:30] village code, which is why we wouldn't put it here.

[1:03:36] We would add this part to village code, but then we also have a rate and fee

[1:03:39] schedule that gets monitored. >> Yeah. resolution. I

[1:03:43] » was going to say we're going to have another resolution to take that and put

[1:03:45] that into the P schedule, right? At the end of our code. Yeah.

[1:03:48] » Yeah. So, this is the the ordinance to be able to create the utility um but

[1:03:53] doesn't set the rates. Uh [clears throat] so, I'll just kick us

[1:03:57] off here a little bit, but apologize. Um my colleague Emily wasn't able to be

[1:04:02] here tonight. A personal item came up. Um, we have online Lily Hawk who is

[1:04:08] involved with Emily on the the creation of the utility and and [snorts] both the

[1:04:13] writing of the ordinance and also some of the background information, some

[1:04:16] stuff that we talked about before with with setting rates and and how all that

[1:04:21] works. So um I don't know specifics you want to to

[1:04:26] go through but this is basically creation of the utility rates as we

[1:04:31] mentioned um would be set as part of a separate resolution and we did talk

[1:04:36] about rates specifically like at last month's

[1:04:40] » yeah it was a recommendation to do the 275 with the averages that was Emily

[1:04:46] » would that would that additional resolution be something that would also

[1:04:49] go through public hearing then before being adopted.

[1:04:52] » Resolutions do not need a public hearing, but we can host we can host

[1:04:55] one. >> Okay. I I mean, given the fact that

[1:04:58] there's expressed interest, I would think that that would be reasonable. So,

[1:05:01] » there's been some really good discussion on it, and I think Todd did a pretty

[1:05:04] good analysis of get making an assumption of what he

[1:05:08] could spend in a year. And I think everybody's conversation in those

[1:05:11] meetings about it talked about let's try it for a year. Um, your staff did a

[1:05:16] great job of giving us a range of numbers. We picked something in the

[1:05:18] middle to try it. Um, it hasn't been fixed in a while, so I think there's

[1:05:24] probably an outstanding need. So, worst case, we're heck, we're consent too

[1:05:28] high. I'm sure Todd can find a place to fix it.

[1:05:31] » Oh, yeah. We have far over severe repairs to do. Um, we're we're probably,

[1:05:37] you know, two $300,000 of repairs that we we could do right now if we wanted

[1:05:42] to. >> I approve worse things

[1:05:45] » and it's we're easing into this. So >> as in this ordinance um it talks about

[1:05:52] calculating fees and the method that's listed here is what

[1:05:58] » uh the person went through with us both at the

[1:06:03] hearing Nicole and I were at and at the board meeting last month.

[1:06:07] » Right. >> 275

[1:06:10] was calculated using this method. >> It's like 250 to three bucks.

[1:06:14] » Yeah. We had a we had that range of of what where to be at and yeah that was

[1:06:20] » so I I guess my point is the likelihood that it's suddenly going to become $80

[1:06:26] is not really >> for a residential home

[1:06:31] » because a residential is one unit which would be the minimum.

[1:06:34] » We have a close ballpark figure based on calculations used by the Yeah.

[1:06:44] Uh this ordinance would start would have a start date for the utility of April

[1:06:50] [clears throat] 15th. So it' be on the May utility bill

[1:06:53] » and we would need to set and adopt another ordinance for rates

[1:06:59] » another rate another resolution to establish rates before this comes into

[1:07:03] effect anyway. Right. >> First we need to approve the ordinance

[1:07:06] before we get into the rates. >> Have to add it to the code first. So,

[1:07:10] okay. I will entertain a motion to adopt this ordinance.

[1:07:14] Thank you, Ron. >> Is there a second?

[1:07:17] » Thank you, Arvid. We have a motion and a second to adopt

[1:07:21] ordinance 261. It's first one of the year. All those in

[1:07:26] favor say I. >> I. Post say no.

[1:07:30] » Motion carries. Mo and ordinance is adopted. So, yeah. Could you please make

[1:07:34] sure that we get a public hearing on the next item that we do related to rates?

[1:07:43] Okay. Uh that takes care of item six, public hearing. We're moving to seven

[1:07:49] other business discussion and possible action regarding 7A MPS mark MPS parking

[1:07:53] enforcement safety sticks. [laughter] Excuse me. [clears throat] Sorry.

[1:07:59] Mike on there.

[1:08:09] I can't read those names. >> Mike Asher.

[1:08:13] » Yeah. Mike, can you hear us? >> Yeah, I can hear you.

[1:08:17] » Uh, are you you presenting a PowerPoint from your screen or you want me to run

[1:08:20] through the PowerPoint on the packet? >> Yeah. Why don't you run through it on

[1:08:25] your side? I've got uh Jason Flam is with us as well. I think he's going to

[1:08:28] kick it off for us. Okay. >> All right. Uh, you're up.

[1:08:39] » Jason,

[1:08:52] Jason, we can't hear you. Muted.

[1:08:58] Apparently,

[1:09:02] he's gone awall on us. >> I think I hit

[1:09:05] » He's muted. Can you unmute him?

[1:09:13] » No, we should be good. >> Can you guys hear me?

[1:09:16] » Yeah, Jason, >> apologize. I had some uh technical

[1:09:19] difficulties there, but uh yeah, thank you for the opportunity to um uh to

[1:09:24] speak to you all today. Appreciate it. Um, so Devon, I think I I can't see what

[1:09:30] you're showing on the screen, but I think what I'll do is I'll give you just

[1:09:33] the the very quick overview of of MPS and then take you guys

[1:09:37] » I have your whole presentation here, so if you just keep going from the start to

[1:09:40] the finish, we should be fine. >> Okay. So maybe just to kick it off,

[1:09:46] introduce myself and Mike. So, um, I've been with the MPS for the last, uh, 13

[1:09:52] years and head up corporate development and, uh, a lot of the strategy, uh,

[1:09:57] initiatives. Uh, Mike, who also is on the call, um, really heads up our

[1:10:02] customer success and operations within MPS. Um so [clears throat] MPS the quick

[1:10:10] commercial um we've been doing vision based technologies for the last uh 12 or

[1:10:17] 13 years really were a pioneer in developing this technology and and

[1:10:21] patenting it. And really what it's all about is uh monitoring

[1:10:27] uh parking environments and at the end of the day um monitoring and enforcing

[1:10:33] rules that cities put in place. It's really as as simple as that. So we use

[1:10:38] our vision technologies in in parking envir in parking lots on street

[1:10:43] environments and in this case if I think the focus initially is on um restricted

[1:10:48] parking areas areas that you are never supposed to park in and create candidly

[1:10:54] safety hazards. Um when folks park in a crosswalk it obstructs uh uh other

[1:11:01] vehicles views. if you park in front of a fire hydrant, uh there's obvious

[1:11:05] safety uh concerns there as well. So, you know, our technologies have been

[1:11:11] kind of battle tested throughout the United States. We're in over 37 cities,

[1:11:17] uh over a thousand locations. Um really have touched uh many different use

[1:11:22] cases. there's very few use cases that we haven't been able to effectively

[1:11:26] address, but at the end of the day, you know, our our service is really around

[1:11:31] um adapting to the the rules and and uh challenges that that cities have using

[1:11:38] uh technology. So, in the case of um uh Acyola, you know, we've had the chance

[1:11:44] to to to walk the streets and and listen to some of the city's uh challenges and

[1:11:49] and and goals, and we've come up with a a proposal that u um you've

[1:11:55] [clears throat] all probably had a chance to look at, but I I'll be happy

[1:11:57] to kind of walk you through the the highlights. So,

[1:12:02] um, what what comes as a surprise to to to

[1:12:06] most cities and and even private operators that we work with is is a is a

[1:12:12] a challenge or behavior or uh uh an issue that that most cities

[1:12:18] don't know that they actually have. And and what is that? That's the the the

[1:12:23] fact that there's a shocking amount of of bad behavior in parking. Um that may

[1:12:28] may surprise some, maybe not others, but we we've been able to demonstrate uh

[1:12:34] over the last 10 years and tens of millions of parking sessions that in in

[1:12:37] in many parking environments a very high portion of of people that

[1:12:43] park are are not following the the rules. Um, and you know, by our our

[1:12:48] statistics, in in many instances, it's as high as 40% of the people are staying

[1:12:53] well beyond, you know, the stated uh uh timelines or um failing to pay what they

[1:12:58] should or or parking in in in dangerous settings that frankly you should never

[1:13:04] park in like a fire hydrant. Um, so what we've done is is taken a take a stab at

[1:13:10] uh laying out, you know, what would our technology look like across um Oyola. Um

[1:13:15] just as a as a first blush we you know we uh uh took some liberties to say all

[1:13:21] right what if we used our whole portfolio of technologies to really

[1:13:24] address holistically the whole whole city. Obviously [snorts] we we um don't

[1:13:29] need to do that. We can do just subsegments of it. But with for the

[1:13:34] uh illustrative purposes here we we did um show what it would look like if if we

[1:13:39] laid out the technology across the city. And I'll start real quickly and kind of

[1:13:43] go through this, but uh on Cascade Street, the main street, uh what we

[1:13:49] proposed, uh in order to monitor your 2-hour time limits was to to put up, uh

[1:13:54] a handful of uh overhead cameras um that [snorts] basically monitor vehicles as

[1:14:00] they enter and exit that twob block area. And um the policies today is is a

[1:14:08] two-hour time limit. So we would uh flag any vehicles that stayed within that

[1:14:14] zone longer than 2 hours. Um when that happens uh using our you know al

[1:14:20] algorithms and AI and also human verification we then you know submit a a

[1:14:26] a uh uh a violation notice for representative of the city to to review

[1:14:33] with them um and and uh hit hit the go or no go button. And so at the end of

[1:14:38] the day, it's really um left to you uh to decide um is this a valid violation

[1:14:44] or not? And and do you want to enforce it? Um we provide the tools um uh for

[1:14:50] you to do so and and all the the verification and and backup

[1:14:56] um documentation for that. So zone one or the the first pass was looking at

[1:15:01] just just monitoring that two-hour uh maximum stay limit. The second pass was

[1:15:08] taking a look at uh um you know the kind of what we call restricted parking areas

[1:15:13] or or no parking areas. So a handful of of uh fire hydrants, crosswalks

[1:15:19] um that typically or historically have been abused. Um, and so that's the

[1:15:26] second pass here. And then the third pass was all right. You know, looking

[1:15:31] forward uh uh taking a pass at at monitoring the uh time limits in in

[1:15:38] various parking lot settings. So, I don't think we need to kind of

[1:15:42] dive into all all of the uh uh pictures here, but you can see as you page

[1:15:46] through um you know, we superimposed what where the cameras would be ideally

[1:15:51] placed and [clears throat] the areas of interest that the uh the cameras would

[1:15:56] be focused on. So again, I think at at the end of the

[1:16:00] day, um we've we've, you know, been um had the the good fortune of dealing with

[1:16:06] a lot of different cities, all different sizes, other cities within uh Wisconsin.

[1:16:11] Um and each city is a little bit different and each city has their own

[1:16:15] pain points. But I think the the beauty of our system, it allows um uh us to

[1:16:20] address most of those pain points. As I mentioned before, I think there's very

[1:16:24] few few instances where we haven't found a creative way to um kind of match our

[1:16:29] technology with your your needs to um change behavior. So, at the end of the

[1:16:33] day, again, uh enforcement is a tool to change behavior, bad behavior, whether

[1:16:40] that's uh parking in places you shouldn't park or parking beyond the

[1:16:45] length of stay that you are allowed to park. So the key um to a lot of downtown

[1:16:51] areas and main streets is is turnover. And we hear this from you know most of

[1:16:56] the cities we work with that turnover is is the um key component to um creating

[1:17:05] open space and parking availability for for parking patrons of of the

[1:17:09] businesses. What we find and this is comes at as a surprise to a lot of

[1:17:14] cities as we you know do do pilots who are going to production is that we find

[1:17:19] that um a lot a significant number of cars stay well beyond that 2hour

[1:17:25] [snorts] maximum stay and then diving a little bit deeper under the covers it

[1:17:29] turns out that in many cities it's actually the employees in many cases

[1:17:34] that are staying and taking up valuable parking spaces and parking on on Main

[1:17:39] Street And in fact, they probably are better suited and um uh to to park in

[1:17:45] the parking lots or you know save that valuable space for patrons. So it really

[1:17:50] is about creating space turnover and and parking availability for patrons of

[1:17:56] businesses. Um that's kind of the fundamental tenant of of of enforcement

[1:18:00] and and consistent enforcement is really the only way uh to change behavior. So,

[1:18:06] our system obviously uh uses vision based cameras to monitor 247 and and

[1:18:13] provide that um consistent enforcement that you know really is not possible

[1:18:18] with manual um feet on the street. So, that's kind of the the quick overview.

[1:18:25] Um hopefully I didn't uh take too much of your time, but really appreciate it

[1:18:29] and uh happy to address any questions that you may have.

[1:18:34] I understand this technology, right? Using the liquor store parking lot, you

[1:18:39] must read a license plate on the way in and then measure when it leaves. That

[1:18:43] accurate? >> That's correct.

[1:18:47] » Out of that liquor store parking lot, I think the village owns 19 spots, right?

[1:18:53] Some of the ballpark. Yes. What do we do with the other 17? Uh, it would come

[1:18:58] down to the uses of what they're going to be. Um the the parking lots. Yeah.

[1:19:04] And um the people who live there would be absolutely exempt from it because you

[1:19:07] would put their license plate into it. Uh the parking lot is also one of those

[1:19:11] areas where they're just showing what you can do. Uh tonight is the kind of

[1:19:14] proposal of looking getting direction from board. This is something they even

[1:19:17] want the appetite for. At the November board meeting, uh there was a motion

[1:19:21] saying at least let's explore this what it might look like and ideas. Tonight's

[1:19:25] not tying you to any decision whatsoever. more or less learning how

[1:19:28] the system works and if we want to go further down to figure out if this is

[1:19:32] something we want to explore. Um it was originally brought up as a safety issue

[1:19:36] of of I wanted to explore around hydrants crosswalks um and potential

[1:19:41] dangerous issues to make sure that we we are really um protecting our citizens

[1:19:45] with the crosswalks especially what happened uh we've had two incidences of

[1:19:49] pedestrians can hit this summer or this year. So, one of those things you have a

[1:19:53] camera on it, you can see more information to and providing those kind

[1:19:55] of things. And then the police wanted to look at the avenue of enforcing our own

[1:19:59] existing ordinances that we currently have that are not practical for us to

[1:20:03] enforce as as they are now is they're way too labor intensive to be even

[1:20:08] actively enforced. So, it was kind of a manyful thing of why we're looking at

[1:20:11] doing this. Um, and tonight is really kind of, you know, getting direction to

[1:20:17] something we want to look at, not look at. what scope do you want to to

[1:20:20] continue down? Um, so all these questions are relevant in that in that

[1:20:24] discussion that you're having and you are right that people would have to like

[1:20:29] especially the private residences either you they have to validate or they're the

[1:20:33] license plate would have to be on record where they're exempt from all from all

[1:20:37] meters going in and out. >> Well, to that one in particular, Frank

[1:20:41] and Michelle at the dry cleaners own one, two, three, four, five or six of

[1:20:46] them and they wouldn't have residents. they'd have transient people.

[1:20:50] Um, let's go back to a fun a big picture question. So, Eric reminded us in June

[1:20:56] that we were going to table this until after the bridge. How did it end up on

[1:20:59] the November meeting? >> Let me let me address that. These are

[1:21:02] two separate issues. We tabled we tabled the twohour or the the parking meter

[1:21:09] parking until after the bridge. This what we're looking at now is an existing

[1:21:13] ordinance been on book for over 30 years for two-hour parking. And over the last

[1:21:19] 18 years or whatever 15 years while I was at the village, we did write parking

[1:21:24] tickets, but back then the parking tickets were $5 and $10 each. You have

[1:21:28] to mark the tires, come back two and a half hours later to make sure two hours

[1:21:32] had passed, make sure the vehicle hadn't moved, and then take at least 10 or 15

[1:21:35] minutes to write a ticket for a$5 or $10 ticket. And we had businesses, in fact,

[1:21:40] up until I retired, we had businesses that still called and said, "I'm tired

[1:21:43] of these vehicles parking in front of my business for hours on end and forced to

[1:21:47] our parking." We would try to do it, but it came down to manpower, staffing,

[1:21:51] everything else. A few years ago, we up the parking, no parking violations to

[1:21:56] $30 a ticket. Most cities, it's 70, 80, $90 a ticket, right? It still comes down

[1:22:02] to manpower. We haven't had enough officers to fill shifts, let alone come

[1:22:06] out and work enforcement and parking enforcement for for these businesses who

[1:22:11] didn't want vehicles parked out in front of their business all day. Right. This

[1:22:15] is an existing ordinance. It's been on the book for over 30 years. We have

[1:22:19] enforced it when we could. We've had requests to enforce it. And now with

[1:22:22] technology, we can enforce it. And I and maybe been in town for a while, you've

[1:22:28] seen vehicles parked on corners where there's no parking. person in Cascade.

[1:22:32] Great spot. You've seen vehicles parked in crosswalks. You've seen vehicle

[1:22:36] parked, you know, in spots you're not supposed to park just for a quick in and

[1:22:40] out. That's how accidents happen. Now using technology

[1:22:44] we can enforce the areas that we want to enforce especially crosswalks, no

[1:22:50] parking zones, stop light, a stoplight in town and other areas, high traffic

[1:22:55] areas and to our parking at at barely no cost with an extra

[1:23:01] additional screening measure in place to avoid people who have permission to park

[1:23:04] there or private parking spots. This is something that I personally have wanted

[1:23:08] to see for a lot of years because it just enhances an already existing law

[1:23:13] that we have on the books ordinance. >> Maybe that begs the question because it

[1:23:17] sounds like the tone's changed. If if Eric has any validity in what he said,

[1:23:21] doesn't sound like the businesses are interested.

[1:23:23] » It's It sounds like there's a mixture of some that don't want it and some that

[1:23:27] do. I mean, that's to be expected. I think there's individual groups,

[1:23:30] » right? Some people want to hear who does what?

[1:23:33] » We have a the bottom line is are we going to repeal the two-hour parking

[1:23:37] ordinance? Is that what we're talking about here? Are we going to keep it

[1:23:39] enforced and keep it standard? Because communities who do this consistently

[1:23:43] don't have an issue with it. People know it's two-hour parking. They come in,

[1:23:46] they park, they know they have to leave, they leave. Right. This is not a change

[1:23:50] from what we have. It's just a way to use technology to enforce it.

[1:23:54] » So, let's see.

[1:23:59] That's my take on that. >> I I would probably agree, Ron. It must

[1:24:03] be hard to enforce because I did a public request [clears throat] for

[1:24:06] information today to see how many tickets have been written. There's been

[1:24:09] five in two years, >> right?

[1:24:11] » So, I I wonder is it is it because they don't have the resources to do it or is

[1:24:14] there just not an issue? >> Resources and basically resources and

[1:24:19] the issue priority, right? When you have less resources, you have higher priority

[1:24:22] calls. So to the to the safety thing, too. The the one other accident that

[1:24:26] happened in downtown wasn't even on a street that's being addressed by this.

[1:24:30] » Yeah, I I can't I can't speak to that, but I I can say that

[1:24:33] » you know where the accident was. You can >> I can't because I know that when people

[1:24:37] when vehicles parked, we're not supposed to leave for two minutes to run in and

[1:24:40] out to go somewhere. An accident can happen. It can, but it hasn't.

[1:24:44] » But the other accident was on Cascade. >> Yes.

[1:24:48] » Was it on or Cascade? It >> was on Cascade. in a crosswalk

[1:24:53] » at a crosswalk. >> No, it was not in a crosswalk. Nope.

[1:25:00] » So, so Ron does bring up a good question. Why do we have a 2-hour

[1:25:04] ordinance? >> That's my comment today to a few people

[1:25:10] that asked. I said, um, we're not enforcing ordinance as is. So, either

[1:25:14] we're going to enforce it or we repeal it. Um, because right now we currently

[1:25:17] have signs up up and down Cascade saying two-hour parking only. And some say five

[1:25:21] minutes and some say 15. We have different spots. But

[1:25:24] » right, but where did that come from? I mean, Eric is saying

[1:25:28] nobody, none of the businesses want it. It had to have been wanted by somebody

[1:25:32] at some point. And I'm saying >> I suspect it was the businesses.

[1:25:36] » I had a conversation with Frank today, too, about that, and he is in favor of

[1:25:40] it in front of his building. However, he's the only one, and he's been able to

[1:25:45] manage it. And the problem that he's had has been the people over at the thrift

[1:25:49] shop across the street. He said, "You know what? Park in my other spots. You

[1:25:53] know, if you're going to be here all day, just don't use that the two spots

[1:25:55] in front of his business." So, that and the post office are really the only like

[1:25:59] heavy transient people that want to keep rotation. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure

[1:26:04] Eric listed every other business downtown. He He didn't, Mike, because I

[1:26:07] got a couple my head >> with with the exception of Chieftain

[1:26:10] Street, which we're not even addressing here because I would agree there's

[1:26:13] probably some issues on Chieftain, >> but we don't have any we're not

[1:26:17] addressing anything there. >> Yeah, but I think this was just like a

[1:26:20] proposal. I mean, we could add Chieftain Street if that's what you would like.

[1:26:26] » We We're finding a solution to a problem that I don't think anybody wants to

[1:26:30] solve. >> I'm just saying that you brought up

[1:26:32] Chieftain Street, so I'm telling you a solution if you wanted to add it. I

[1:26:35] think you have said there's an underlying agenda here and I'm not

[1:26:38] interested in it and I'm going to continue to poke holes in this

[1:26:41] » also >> until we go away.

[1:26:45] » What' you say?

[1:26:49] » I said there was also 15

[1:27:01] response so we can read it. [laughter] You try that again [clears throat]

[1:27:06] one more time. Vanam, >> there was over 1500 signature

[1:27:12] prior to this meeting people that opposed it

[1:27:19] » and 1500 people opposed it. >> Yeah, I think that that was related to

[1:27:22] the the um the signatures that were circulated last time. Um but that was

[1:27:29] when the conversation was centered around. I think there was another 600

[1:27:32] yet today though just on the card agenda.

[1:27:35] » I think there's I think there's a lot of misinformation out there though.

[1:27:38] » Well, it's unfortunate that the the conversation is not being cast in a

[1:27:41] light that's productive because it centers around paid parking

[1:27:46] » parking meters >> and parking meters and that I think

[1:27:49] that's unfortunately biasing the conversation but

[1:27:52] » object to that. >> Can we not have G gallery? We've already

[1:27:57] like we have to keep Yeah, there's a Sorry. But

[1:28:08] » yeah, and I I don't want to debate the merits of whether or not a business is

[1:28:12] or for or opposed it. I mean, businesses come and go, so there's going to be

[1:28:15] other businesses that may or may not be in favor of doing something. But I think

[1:28:19] the bigger issue here is that we have laws. And I mean, I seem to recall

[1:28:25] getting challenged even myself about whether or not there was appropriate

[1:28:30] enforcement going on for other ordinances that are already on the

[1:28:33] books. So, are we going to enforce the ordinances that we have or are we not?

[1:28:38] And if we're not, then maybe they need to be changed.

[1:28:41] » And you know, Mike, I heard you refer to alternative motives. Is it financial? Is

[1:28:46] that what you're getting at? I I don't see how this is not going to track down

[1:28:49] the path of >> if it was fighting. Well,

[1:28:52] » that's a separate issue. Right now, we're talking about

[1:28:55] » enforcement. Yeah. >> Enforcement of existing laws for

[1:28:58] two-hour parking, including handicap areas, no parking zones, and other

[1:29:03] dangerous stuff. >> Fire hydrants,

[1:29:04] » fire hydrants. >> This is what we're looking at.

[1:29:07] » And I I want to say the proposal was the basically two over and everything. It

[1:29:12] can be as simple as the safety sticks and the areas that you're concerned

[1:29:15] about, too. It can be as simple as nothing tonight. Like I said, there was

[1:29:18] no formal thing being presented to you. It was discussion to figure out a

[1:29:23] direction we want to go. >> At this point, I personally be happy. I

[1:29:27] mean, if if it made other people happy trying this out with a safety sticks

[1:29:31] just in the dangerous areas, right, the crosswalks, the no parking zones, the

[1:29:36] the other areas we've listed, right? And then seeing where that goes. the

[1:29:41] two-hour parking is not going to go away because some businesses now don't favor

[1:29:46] it, but some businesses do. And like like was just brought up here,

[1:29:50] businesses can come and go and their their needs and wants will change, but

[1:29:53] this ordinance has been on the books for over 30 years. And if we're going to

[1:29:56] have it, we need to enforce it. Now, we have technology that can help do that

[1:30:00] efficiently. So, I would support something like this.

[1:30:08] I just want to ask a logistical question to uh Mike there at MPS. You got these

[1:30:15] photos of downtown. Are the blue areas meant to be in the crosswalks? Cuz some

[1:30:20] of them are not. The the blue area, it's meant to be it's it's not be exact. It's

[1:30:27] meant to be uh illustrative of where the camera would kind of focus into where it

[1:30:33] would detect the vehicle and the plate. So, it's not meant to be exact. It's

[1:30:37] meant to be this is where we would detect the vehicle and read the plate.

[1:30:41] So, you when you look at, you know, and and again, this was all just kind of

[1:30:45] conceptually what could be done. If if two if enforcing two hours is important

[1:30:50] to you, this is one way that you could solve that problem. Um and and so this

[1:30:55] was just kind of meant to show when a vehicle so this particular one that's up

[1:30:59] right here when it's heading south on Cascade when it's leaving that that

[1:31:03] southern block there we would read the plate um because and that would match

[1:31:09] with a plate read that we had up um on second where you know the vehicle went

[1:31:14] in you know and and presumably traffic's just going to flow through there and you

[1:31:19] know we'd read a plate going in and read a plate going out you know they were

[1:31:23] they were on the street for I don't know 15 20 seconds. If they parked, we would

[1:31:28] read that exit, you know, x number of minutes or hours later and those the

[1:31:34] entrance and exit would be matched up and that would be a parking session and

[1:31:37] that parking session gets timed. >> Mike, I do have a question for you.

[1:31:42] » Sure. >> Say someone had a marathon shopping

[1:31:45] spree at the grocery store and exited entrance. Um, how would that be picked

[1:31:50] up? and sorry and did what? >> Like uh say they came in Cascade at like

[1:31:56] one and they went to the grocery store for two hours and didn't pass into

[1:31:59] camera and came out the other end. Will that trigger them to be as a park for

[1:32:04] two hours? >> Well, if we don't detect an exit, then

[1:32:07] the session doesn't get flagged. >> But I'm saying if they if they come in

[1:32:12] one side and park at a at a private lot for two hours and go out the other side,

[1:32:16] will that be flagged as two >> park? Yeah. So, so if if the cameras

[1:32:22] were set up to to No. So, the answer is no because it would get architected to

[1:32:29] prevent that from happening. The the illustrations I put here on the two

[1:32:33] blocks of Cascade there there's really no ins and outs. There's only one way in

[1:32:37] and that's, you know, at the beginning of the block and there's one way out at

[1:32:40] the end of the block. So, if there's >> I just want to make sure no one be

[1:32:45] wrongfully ticketed. >> No. And and that's that's it would be

[1:32:49] architected such that nobody would be wrongfully ticketed.

[1:32:57] » Did that answer your question? >> Yes. Thank you.

[1:32:59] » Yep. [snorts]

[1:33:05] » So in terms of you know again this was just meant as kind of illustrative of

[1:33:10] what we could do uh conceptually if enforcing two hours is important. Um,

[1:33:15] you know, it it really depends on the city and and what your goals are. I

[1:33:20] mean, this discussion comes up a lot. If if you would like, I have a a white

[1:33:25] paper that I like to share with municipalities when we're having

[1:33:29] discussions with the curbside parking. Um, it's comes out of the UCLA urban

[1:33:34] studies uh department. I didn't write the paper. I don't know the guy who

[1:33:38] wrote the paper, but it's a really good paper because it talks about the value

[1:33:42] of that curbside parking um and how most municipalities give it away like any

[1:33:48] utility that they wouldn't give away. Um so it really talks about how to manage

[1:33:53] that. Um you know, one of the discussion points I heard early was, you know,

[1:33:57] employees are are taking these spots and employees need a place to park. Um, and

[1:34:02] if they're working eight hour shifts or 10 hour shifts or four hour shifts, they

[1:34:06] need to have a place where they can park for four hours, six hours, eight hours,

[1:34:09] 10 hours, whatever that case might be. But typically, the way municipalities

[1:34:14] will set up their parking assets is that for longer term parking, they'll put

[1:34:18] that kind of on the perimeter of the core. So, I'd view Cascade as kind of

[1:34:23] your core. And you've got some lots. It was mentioned behind the post office has

[1:34:27] got a lot. Um, and then by the liquor store and just south of there. And I

[1:34:31] think there's also another lot uh to the west of Cascade

[1:34:36] uh maybe on third if I recall correctly. [clears throat] And you know you would

[1:34:41] set those up as 4 hour, 6 hour, 8 hour and really encourage people to go that

[1:34:46] way for the people who are going to who stay for a while. And then the turnover

[1:34:50] spots are the ones for the businesses so you can get your people coming in

[1:34:55] shop, dine, whatever the case might be. Maybe it's two hours, maybe it's three

[1:34:59] hours, whatever that number is. But you want to have that turnover for those

[1:35:03] transactional type of of uh uh customers. So if you're interested, I'm

[1:35:09] happy to send you that white paper. You can read it's it's good, you know,

[1:35:12] bedtime reading. Uh kind of talks about managing managing those assets. Uh like

[1:35:18] I said, I have no stake in it, but it is a good discussion point to to kind of

[1:35:21] read through it.

[1:35:32] Maybe uh the opportunity exists here again because this is hot

[1:35:40] to uh gather information on perhaps the 2hour time period has gone

[1:35:47] away. Is there a different time period that our businesses are interested in or

[1:35:54] do they no longer care whatsoever? >> Yeah, I was surprised that this didn't

[1:35:59] come through one of our and I'm going to use the wrong term. Our chamber of

[1:36:02] commerce is >> you know currently it's right now it's

[1:36:04] kind of a floating thing. Yeah, I know. That's why I use that term loosely

[1:36:08] because I don't know what the group is, but it's representative of the business

[1:36:11] that is in theory the people that Ron suggested have the issue.

[1:36:17] » And without direction from you guys, I I wanted to make sure we have directions

[1:36:20] before I totally have a sit down meeting with everyone. Unfortunately, like I

[1:36:24] said, today it really blew up. Uh without direction from you, board, I

[1:36:27] can't present anything or a guidance of a a conversation until I have parameters

[1:36:33] really. uh because then we're starting I don't like to start a project here. You

[1:36:37] want to funnel it down into an area that we can actually discuss in a timely

[1:36:41] manner in a civil manner. Um and tonight was really kind of the stepping stone of

[1:36:46] showing you the what is capable of doing with the technology and if it's

[1:36:50] something we even want to to go down and and to to look at. I I just want to

[1:36:55] reiterate I see some a lot of gaps and a lot of problems that we're going to run

[1:37:00] into. you know, um, we've got a municipal lot being addressed. Chieftain

[1:37:04] Street's not we're not looking at it. We've got the Valley Spirits lot that it

[1:37:10] Frank can let anybody park there as long as he wants. Um, and then it ends up

[1:37:14] being a piss match. There's um there's at least well, let me phrase that. I

[1:37:19] know of one class action lawsuit that this business is involved in over data.

[1:37:25] I'm we're going down a a path that we're we found a solution to a problem. I'm

[1:37:29] not sure anybody wants to solve. It's It's a slippery slope.

[1:37:35] » I think our first problem that we need to solve is parking for employees.

[1:37:38] Really? >> Well, that's

[1:37:41] » I think that's part of it. >> Yeah. That's up to the That's up to the

[1:37:44] business though because I guarantee you that if a business downtown, their

[1:37:47] employees come to work, they're not parking in front of their business,

[1:37:51] right? They're going to go down and leave that parking for customers and

[1:37:54] park in front of some other business or or some other spot.

[1:37:56] » Some other business, >> right? So, you know, it's something that

[1:37:59] definitely needs attention and I know that's been brought up with some of the

[1:38:03] parking lot solutions, but again, yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of people

[1:38:07] that work downtown. They need parking. They're parking in these areas.

[1:38:11] » I would be happy if you're looking for more direction to recommend for now that

[1:38:16] to give this company a chance, we place these sticks in the, you know, the

[1:38:20] high-profile no parking areas, right? the intersections, those places to see

[1:38:25] how they work, to see what we capture, to see how reliable it is, and then if

[1:38:30] that seems to be okay, and then down the road, whether it's 6 months or a year,

[1:38:34] we want to explore the two-hour parking, probably not what the police department

[1:38:38] wants to hear, but then we can look at doing that. But at least this gives us a

[1:38:41] smaller snapshot or glimpse of what this company can offer and what data we get

[1:38:46] and how easy it is. cuz maybe if the police department starts getting 25

[1:38:50] requests a day to write parking tickets, you know, then we see what the need is

[1:38:55] down the road. That's one thing. But right now, we can see what a smaller

[1:38:58] snapshot shows. And I Tanner stated tonight in case you didn't questions for

[1:39:02] the police department, too. So that's why Tanner stick around a little extra.

[1:39:05] » Yeah, I almost would want want to hear from him and maybe Paul, too, on fire

[1:39:10] hydrants and if that's a problem having access to those. We don't have

[1:39:16] problems. >> Okay.

[1:39:17] » We just take the window off the hole. [laughter]

[1:39:22] » No problem at all. >> No problem.

[1:39:25] » No disrespect, but I'd rather hear from AJ.

[1:39:29] » Tanner, if you have something to offer, I'd like to hear. I'm sure you and AJ

[1:39:32] spoke about this. >> Uh the only cliff note that AJ gave me

[1:39:34] is the ability to have certain license plates entered in the system so that

[1:39:39] this person does not get a ticket if they violate the ordinance, such as the

[1:39:42] people who pay for parking behind jackpots in that lot.

[1:39:45] Outside anything from that, I would probably agree this would be a thing for

[1:39:48] HP to talk about you guys on >> get him out of the ball. [laughter]

[1:39:54] » Get him out of the pool. >> Yeah.

[1:39:58] » I don't know how anybody else thinks about it, but if we're looking for a

[1:40:00] scope on this right now to narrow it down, I would be in favor of the no

[1:40:04] parking, fire hydrants, crosswalks, corners, where people shouldn't be

[1:40:09] parking for any reason, employee or not, just to see how the system works. and

[1:40:13] then address it or not address it later. But

[1:40:19] » yeah, and there were some comments that were read back during

[1:40:23] public comment. Um, some of which were some of the things that I said and they

[1:40:28] were related to my opinion that I'm not interested in exploring any paid parking

[1:40:35] in the village until after the bridge is open. I don't want to deal with adding

[1:40:38] any stress to the business owners plates with regard to any paid parking. This is

[1:40:43] a different conversation. This is enforcing the parking rules that we

[1:40:46] already have. Now, if we have a broken parking rule,

[1:40:51] that's my opinion. We need to address the code. If the great majority is that

[1:40:56] this shouldn't exist, then remove it. Freeforall. No restrictions. Park as

[1:41:01] long as you want. I mean, that's the alternative, right? I mean, if we don't

[1:41:05] have any parking restrictions because the the great majority of the business

[1:41:09] owners in town don't want them, fine. Remove them and let people park as long

[1:41:15] as they want in any spot they want downtown. That's the because otherwise

[1:41:20] why have the law in place if we're not going to take reasonable no cost to us

[1:41:27] steps to enforce them.

[1:41:31] So, I would be willing to entertain future meeting topics to discuss

[1:41:35] amending village code to repeal our parking restrictions.

[1:41:45] » I see. >> I think we'd have to take a more of a

[1:41:48] survey of businesses downtown. It would be just a snapshot on social media.

[1:41:51] » Oh, that that'd be me going to talking to everyone and finding out. area

[1:41:55] because a lot of businesses do rely on people coming in and coming out. Some

[1:41:59] business rely on people staying for hours,

[1:42:01] » right? So, you're going to get a variety of responses.

[1:42:04] » I agree. >> But we can't go off of social media or

[1:42:07] petitions signed by people that may or may not be village residents or business

[1:42:10] owners. >> Yeah.

[1:42:11] » Right. Or unknown data. >> Yep. I agree. It would be a town hall

[1:42:15] style setting I would want to have for something like that for sure. Yep.

[1:42:22] » Who's following Ron's suggestion of placing them in the potential problem

[1:42:28] areas. Would that gather some of the data that we would

[1:42:33] actually need to decide

[1:42:37] is this a problem? >> Yeah. And that was kind of related to

[1:42:40] what he had talked about with the because you did a records request,

[1:42:43] right? >> Yeah. I mean, yes, there was a minimal

[1:42:47] amount of citations, but then again, our code is complaint driven anyway. So we

[1:42:51] don't >> there was 10 in two years there was 10

[1:42:53] snow events and five

[1:43:00] » I can tell you there's been a lot more violations because I've come in a few

[1:43:02] times and asked why the car on Cascade wasn't ticketed after a plow event.

[1:43:06] » There's been a ton and we haven't last two years we haven't had police coverage

[1:43:09] a lot in the evenings either. Well, and the other problem area that I'm aware of

[1:43:12] just because it's constant and it it's more so just with walking across the

[1:43:16] street, but parking as well in front of the wershed is treacherous.

[1:43:21] » Like there are all kinds of vehicles parked in places that shouldn't be

[1:43:24] parked in front of that place. >> In two years, there was 41 no overnight

[1:43:28] parking by citations, five um

[1:43:33] no parking zone citations, and 10 snow emergencies.

[1:43:38] And Tanner can probably answer this, but I'm willing to bet those were basically

[1:43:41] written on nights there were snowfalls because they had to, not because they

[1:43:45] had the staff could do it nightly consistently.

[1:43:48] » Right. >> The all night winter parking is your

[1:43:50] standard two to six. The snow emergency one is when we get more than two inches

[1:43:53] of snow. The boys come out with plows. >> We have a specific number. We did 17

[1:43:58] winter parking tickets. >> That would be snow emergency and just

[1:44:01] the general 2 to six or statue or nuts. >> But main street everywhere. And I I

[1:44:07] think I remember when we first brought this up, I I thought about

[1:44:13] um doing the just the sticks, not these large camera pieces. I don't even think

[1:44:21] we we discussed we saw those. No, what originally you you talked about continue

[1:44:26] with the safety 6 conversation and then in admin finance um

[1:44:30] » we'd been talking to him longer and we wanted to see what possibly it might

[1:44:34] look like with parking enforcement because AJ said that's been an issue

[1:44:37] that they haven't been able to enforce it. So then admin finance recommended to

[1:44:41] the full board that we talk about November meeting which we did and it was

[1:44:44] recommended to go forward for further investigation what it might look like

[1:44:47] and that's where we are tonight for the quick history on that. Yeah. And I I

[1:44:51] remember talking about um that I like safety sticks for the data first more

[1:44:58] than any sort of enforcement so that we can see and then the public can see is

[1:45:04] this a problem, is this not? So, if we had one and one on like one corner, one

[1:45:09] on the other corner, just these sticks and used it for data only,

[1:45:14] um I think that would give us a view and then get rid of them or not

[1:45:21] after we get the data because there's no real data right now. That's substantial.

[1:45:29] And and that's something we do with with um prospects is we're happy to do that.

[1:45:36] Put a couple sticks in, show you the data,

[1:45:38] » and if there's no data, we take them out. And that's not

[1:45:43] » that's [clears throat] a good comment. >> Again, I wouldn't mind seeing sticks in

[1:45:46] the prohibited hightra areas like we talked about.

[1:45:49] » Yep. >> For now, for a set period of time, in

[1:45:52] the meantime, that could give us time to talk to the businesses and talk to

[1:45:55] people downtown to see how they really feel about it. And then from that point,

[1:46:00] we could either expand this to two-hour parking or repeal the two-hour parking

[1:46:04] if that's consensus. But in the meantime, I don't think it hurts to have

[1:46:08] the no parking areas covered. Fire hydrants, crosswalks, corners, people

[1:46:13] park temporarily >> curbs that are too close to an

[1:46:17] intersection. >> That would not be a bad thing because

[1:46:22] there's no reason for anybody to park there, right?

[1:46:28] Yeah, I think >> I think it bears it bears stating too

[1:46:33] that I know that one of the concerns that a business owner brought to my

[1:46:36] attention today was that there was a there was concern that this would be a

[1:46:40] that this would be a Trojan horse for paid parking. And I think that that's an

[1:46:46] avenue, but it's not what this conversation is about tonight. This

[1:46:50] conversation tonight is about something that is separated from paid parking in

[1:46:54] the fact that, you know, like Ron had said, this is a this is an ordinance

[1:46:58] that's been on the books that this the the limited resources that we have have

[1:47:02] not been able to enforce for a while. And is this a solution in search of a

[1:47:07] problem that's not really there? I don't know. But if we have a company that's

[1:47:10] willing to show us whether or not it is and at no cost to us, I don't see any

[1:47:14] reason why we would say no to that. Like I I it just it doesn't make any sense.

[1:47:18] Like you don't you don't if you get an opportunity to get data for free then

[1:47:24] take the data and if it doesn't support doing anything further then you get rid

[1:47:28] of it and you're done. We've made stupider decisions that cost us money.

[1:47:47] That's kind of an interaction. >> Yeah, I don't think there's any sort of

[1:47:51] action or anything. I just think >> I'm not willing to propose any.

[1:47:54] » Yeah, this is just >> and this is kind of, you know, it's

[1:47:58] unfortunately with with our monthly meetings, it's really hard to have

[1:48:01] discussions before it gets out really gets out to the public because, you

[1:48:04] know, you guys have to direction before I can really give access to it,

[1:48:07] » right? >> But the information has to be made

[1:48:09] public so people are aware that we're talking about it. Uh it's it's a very

[1:48:13] good thing, but it also doesn't give a chance to us to really describe what

[1:48:16] we're planning on looking at doing here. >> The information has to be accurate.

[1:48:19] » Yes. >> Right. It has to be accurate. It has to

[1:48:21] be detailed. It can't I mean a lot of the stuff I've heard in the last day and

[1:48:25] a half completely false, right? Completely false information. I mean,

[1:48:30] and that spreads and people get upset and that doesn't do any of us any good.

[1:48:34] But we come to me like >> what you just said is inaccurate because

[1:48:36] the data that was posted didn't happen till this morning.

[1:48:39] » What data in particular? But whatever you're in uh insinuating

[1:48:44] » just the fact that people were talking about

[1:48:45] » this didn't start talking about it till this morning.

[1:48:50] » When did when did how did this get out like two days ago?

[1:48:54] » I don't know. It's been in the packet since Friday,

[1:48:57] » right? >> Yeah.

[1:48:57] » So, >> the social media event didn't happen

[1:48:59] until this. >> No, it was in the pack. It's been out

[1:49:01] since Friday. >> Either way, misinformation does not

[1:49:03] help. And I'm glad we could set the record straight like this, but

[1:49:08] unfortunately we have to deal with the other parts

[1:49:09] » because like Deon said, we live in a, you know, digital world now where

[1:49:12] information gets out. >> Since the information's been out since

[1:49:15] Friday, um, I've had, uh, one business owner call me, uh, two business owners

[1:49:19] or one manager of a business and the same business owner who called me, email

[1:49:23] me, and zero board members have called me or emailed me about this. So in terms

[1:49:27] of public interactions to me answering my questions it's been br virtually

[1:49:32] zero.

[1:49:38] » The business manager that got a hold of you. Who was that?

[1:49:42] » Uh Brand Brandon from I sent him an email this morning.

[1:49:51] Anybody else have any opinions they want to share on this topic?

[1:49:58] Okay, moving on. >> Well, thank you for your time, Mike.

[1:50:03] » Yep. Thanks everyone. I appreciate it. >> Thanks everybody.

[1:50:07] » Okay, 7B, Heritage Committee update handout.

[1:50:20] » Thank you. any starting

[1:50:27] want to know that we're not doing nothing process

[1:50:34] one if you answer >> of course

[1:50:38] » I love talking to you guys >> thanks um so you can get our contact

[1:50:42] information from Devon if you have questions for us um and we're in a

[1:50:47] process of getting more information just slowly moving things along

[1:50:51] » Devin do we have anything in the CIP set aside yet for wayfinding at Grist

[1:50:57] Mill for the heritage committee to use? >> Yes, we're um the amount for it will be

[1:51:03] so minuscule that we'll just uh we can administratively approve it. Um it's

[1:51:07] just a small small amount. It's we're looking probably between $500 and $1,000

[1:51:11] for signage. >> Okay.

[1:51:15] And are they being invited to the meetings at this point for the

[1:51:20] construction? Uh they're not involved in construction

[1:51:23] means. No, but Drew today sent them a list of uh potential um podiums that the

[1:51:29] information would be on. >> And we're getting to the point now with

[1:51:31] stairs that are going to get constructed. We're going to start

[1:51:34] finding an opportunity to start talking about the finalization.

[1:51:38] Landscaping, greenery, and signage is going to be some of the last stuff that

[1:51:42] gets talked about, but you don't want to miss it because all of a sudden now

[1:51:45] you've got a contractor sealing up their project and saying, "All right, let's

[1:51:48] cut the ribbon." and people have been left out. So,

[1:51:51] » I know this is a signage topic, but I saw a few logos in there and I thought

[1:51:55] logos was a whole separate topic. Logos for this this in the signage.

[1:52:01] » Oh, later it

[1:52:06] » the bike like >> some of that signage was existing

[1:52:08] signage that's just moving. >> Okay. I was trying to figure out what

[1:52:12] was new, what was being executed as part of Gris Mill and

[1:52:16] maybe what was new. Um Brad, before we get any further, um this is that no

[1:52:22] action item. I would like to revisit the storm water utility open again. Motion

[1:52:27] for that. Uh there's one item that was was missed that I just um Carrie alerted

[1:52:33] me to >> which is um a storm water utility bill

[1:52:37] will or will not be established for those properties with with a water

[1:52:41] utility bill. Do we want to bill people that are not receiving utility bill? And

[1:52:45] that warrants it to be reopened again to make that decision because that affects

[1:52:48] how we approve the ordinance. >> Was it written as the ordinance was now?

[1:52:52] » Um the the ordinance the packet was the one that said um will not be build.

[1:53:02] » Oh, it does. >> Hopefully.

[1:53:05] » Oh, got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it.

[1:53:08] » So, I I would like to resend that motion and go back and revisit.

[1:53:11] » So, yeah. All right. So, all right. Robert's rules. Um, can we finish this

[1:53:16] point before we move on? >> I just I just want to blow fresh in my

[1:53:18] mind. >> Yeah, we're going to get to that before

[1:53:21] we get to item eight. Then we'll do it if we do it within the same meeting, we

[1:53:24] can have a motion to reconsider and it will be pulled back and then we can

[1:53:31] re discuss the topic. So, the motion to reconsider can be done during the same

[1:53:34] meeting. It just has to happen at the end of the agenda. Okay. Um All right.

[1:53:40] Uh, anything else on the heritage committee? No, they've been doing a

[1:53:44] great job. I've I've attended stopped in a few of the meetings and talked to

[1:53:47] them. Uh they're really enjoying learning about the history um from as

[1:53:52] far back as spoken word to now. So, they'll do a thorough job of getting the

[1:53:56] whole history. >> It's a great update. Thank you.

[1:53:59] » Yeah. Been looking for something like this. Thank you.

[1:54:13] Yeah, >> we have like we really and we've been

[1:54:16] reaching out to different people in the community to try to get input from as

[1:54:20] many different angles as we can. We were at the community fair. Um

[1:54:25] anyway, um so we'll we'll keep folks posted when we're going to have those

[1:54:30] sessions and maybe have some input from y'all of like avenues to, you know, put

[1:54:34] that out to make sure people know what's happening and catch you up. But having

[1:54:37] the parameters for the song, you [laughter] really need that.

[1:54:40] » Yeah. Thank you. >> Like 10 words is different than a

[1:54:44] thousand is different. >> How many do you need?

[1:54:49] » We could probably write a whole book. So well, and Kim mentioned that there's a

[1:54:54] long ordinance about signs. So >> yeah, I would consider a QR code on

[1:54:59] whatever signage you have to take you to a site. Yes. Yeah.

[1:55:06] » Okay. Uh 7 CMS MSA discussion and adoption of our CIP per resolution

[1:55:13] 20 2601. We just did that. >> What

[1:55:18] » versus ordinate? Oh jeez. I was worried about that too. Brad

[1:55:24] [laughter]

[1:55:27] » carries on it. >> But good evening everybody. Um I'm here

[1:55:33] tonight to talk about the updated CIP once again. Um the board had discussion

[1:55:38] last month and um I had a meeting with uh village staff. Um I just want to

[1:55:43] basically go over the talking points of what we have done um to update the CIP.

[1:55:49] Um Devin, you could rest on page 133, I believe. That would be fine. But

[1:55:53] » yeah, one way to go. Um Mike uh he had a a comment just about the public works

[1:55:58] equipment table and that was a clerical revision and that's since been updated

[1:56:02] with the right dates at least and Todd and I said sat down looked at it. Um

[1:56:08] Neil he had a comment that he wanted to see a Third Avenue reconstruction

[1:56:11] project um or at least a trail project and uh we sat down and created a a

[1:56:17] illustrative project. So, um outside of the 5-year plan to reconstruct, um Third

[1:56:24] Avenue from Summit Street to County Highway M. And this reconstruction

[1:56:30] project will widen the road um to accommodate a uh 6 to 8 foot bike lane.

[1:56:36] Um this bike lane will be also pedestrian surface, not just for bikers.

[1:56:41] » Yeah, I want to say that we we decided against a curb and gutter lift because

[1:56:44] of the cost. Um there's no way we could fit a full reconstruct into a CIP at

[1:56:48] that cost if you lift it and do a 8 to 12 foot wide sidewalk on a curb. That

[1:56:53] would drastically alter the size of the road which require extensive

[1:56:56] reconstruction. >> Yep. Very good, Devon. Also, there is

[1:57:00] minimal storm sewer on the road. Um so just improving the road with curb and

[1:57:05] gutter requires storm sewer and then requires outfalls and there's wetlands

[1:57:09] adjacent to the road. So, um, Devon's right on. It just increases the cost

[1:57:13] and, um, so, um, I slate that as MSID project that could occur after, uh,

[1:57:20] River Street phase 2. Um, so be out there in the future, but the costs that

[1:57:24] I saw fit well with the MSID, um, application. So, um, that made sense. Um

[1:57:31] then uh we can talk a little bit about some um park projects or some basically

[1:57:39] uh replplatting or selling of parkland. Um there was some discussion about you

[1:57:44] know Smith Park, Eric Park, River Street Park and uh Todd has those parks on his

[1:57:49] radar to have discussion at a public works meeting um of how we'd like to

[1:57:55] move with them. But basically taking underutilized park land instead of uh

[1:58:01] redeveloping it, putting um new playground equipment in there. Um

[1:58:04] looking at a land sale to help fund improvements um such as um an Oki Park

[1:58:10] pickle ball court. Um so you'll I'll transition to that topic. You'll see

[1:58:14] that there's a um illustrative park project for Oki Park pickle ball courts.

[1:58:21] And the reason it's illustrative is um we're hoping to move it into the the

[1:58:27] five-year CIP but not use CIP funds to pay for for the pickle ball court. So

[1:58:33] try to find another funding source, for example, a land sale or other option

[1:58:38] that uh we come up with. But um that was I believe it was Brad's comment um about

[1:58:44] where's the pickle ball course going. Um that's where that's where uh we landed

[1:58:49] on. Um Todd's continuing the scope on there. Um but um I I did a preliminary

[1:58:55] scope um with three courts and uh the cost is uh is in the the park section

[1:59:03] » 937. >> There was discussion from Mike um to

[1:59:08] remove Cascade Falls phase 2 um project. Um we had internal conversations. Um we

[1:59:15] decided to leave that uh park in there. Um we are not set on the timeline um but

[1:59:22] that we believe is the next priority project to use stewardship funding on.

[1:59:26] Um the reason why it's still in there is because um there's a constant

[1:59:31] maintenance uh demand um on the public works um team down there. Um when the

[1:59:38] park floods the boardwalks heave, the boardwalks, you know, move and um it's

[1:59:43] very labor intensive to have people go down there and work on it. So, um we

[1:59:48] identify that as a priority to decrease um the manh hours down there. Um improve

[1:59:55] the boardwalks for ADA and then there's also some uh land acquisition or

[2:00:01] easement issues down there. So, um going to continue down that route. Um at least

[2:00:07] that's what our our staff is recommending here um tonight.

[2:00:11] So, I wouldn't click there, but those are our talking points. Um, I appreciate

[2:00:17] the board's feedback last meeting. Um, I want to make sure they're happy with

[2:00:22] this plan. Um, the projects in these seven sections. Um, you know, I I

[2:00:27] completely understand, you know, how difficult this task is and there can be

[2:00:32] unlimited amounts of projects that can go into this plan. Um, you know, I've

[2:00:36] been a part of CIP plans that, you know, went through seven to eight revisions of

[2:00:40] the plan. So, um, I'll leave it there. I'll entertain any discussion, but

[2:00:46] tonight I'm looking for um motion to approve the resolutions.

[2:00:50] » And keep in mind really what you're approving is just the two-year scope. Uh

[2:00:53] in two years, we'll go through this whole thing again and shift things

[2:00:56] around again. >> Um the idea for three, four, five or

[2:01:00] what we'd like to see, but we all know emergencies happen. Uh priorities change

[2:01:04] over the course of a few years, too. Um, so even though if this might not see

[2:01:09] where you want it to be, uh, keep in mind that the current borrowing measure

[2:01:12] is only for the two-year period and in two years we'll be rehashed in all this

[2:01:17] conversation again. >> You caught all the things that I brought

[2:01:21] up last month. So, I'm good.

[2:01:32] » Anybody else have anything that they want to see change?

[2:01:37] Otherwise, I'll entertain a motion to adopt this resolution 2601.

[2:01:42] » I'll make a motion to adopt resolution 2601 to adopt our capital improvement

[2:01:48] plan 2026 2028. >> 2627,

[2:01:56] right? Yeah. Two years. >> Yeah. Oh, okay.

[2:02:06] I'll second that. Motion by myself and a sec or by Arvid and a second by myself.

[2:02:12] All those in favor say I. >> I. Post say no.

[2:02:15] » Okay. 7C2 Cascade Falls Trail bike racks.

[2:02:20] » Yep. I'll continue. Uh today I am presenting a quote from our um

[2:02:26] furnishing suppliers. So on Cascade Falls Park um we're using Thomas

[2:02:31] Steelely furnishings. typical supplies out of Wisconsin here. Um, well, I

[2:02:37] reached out to one of their, you could say sister companies companies or they

[2:02:42] own this company from Grey Manufacturing or Mad Racks. They create custom um,

[2:02:47] bike racks. So, um, through the design process, it was identified that, um, the

[2:02:52] Main Street Association has fund of $1,500 to buy custom bike racks. So

[2:02:59] Wyatt and I worked together um and I supported um Wyatt basically at at no

[2:03:04] cost to to design these four bike racks to um get his input on them and then

[2:03:12] reach out to the supplier to to get a quote. Um so um yeah, the main street

[2:03:19] director um he had wrapped up into this. Um they're going

[2:03:25] to help share the cost of this. The reason why these custom supplies are not

[2:03:30] in the original bid package is that if that would be the case, MSA would charge

[2:03:39] design fees for it and the general contractor would design or charge markup

[2:03:44] fees for it. Since they're custom furnishings, he's anticipating there's

[2:03:48] going to be lots of back and forth on it. So, the good contractor would mark

[2:03:52] it up high and then we got to pay the general price to begin with. So, instead

[2:03:57] of um the quote, which I verified is still um valid today, the quote of

[2:04:03] $3,500 or 347,9.77

[2:04:08] to be exact, um I would expect a quote of of $20,000 for these four bike racks

[2:04:14] if they were in the original bid packet. So this is a process um that um I took

[2:04:20] to decrease the cost, make it cost effective um try to meet the main

[2:04:25] street's budget, but um we exceeded it um by double here. So the village would

[2:04:30] have some cost here. Um and then this process would be a similar process that

[2:04:34] I would be involved in with the heritage committees sign. So, um, just a little

[2:04:40] point there >> did a really good job of answering a

[2:04:43] question I hadn't asked yet, which is, did we have any money in our original

[2:04:46] bid for this, which you said no, it seems like the bid or Main Street or

[2:04:51] whoever has plenty of money. I'm not in favor of the village paying for any of

[2:04:54] this. If if some other entity downtown wants it, they can pay for it.

[2:04:57] » Reed, you have a $400,000 budget shortfall.

[2:05:01] I'm not interested in putting bike racks in. I

[2:05:03] » I made a statement, I think, at the last meeting or one before. I'm not in favor

[2:05:07] of any more expenditures on >> parks

[2:05:11] consider >> other than what's already in the

[2:05:12] » CIP there. I mean, I'm even going to have a hard time saying I want to match

[2:05:17] grant money because I don't know that we have any money to match with,

[2:05:20] » right? >> There is CIP dollars for um these

[2:05:24] supplies. Um but I really leave the budget conversation for Devon or any

[2:05:30] comment. But I understand your point, Mike. Very good.

[2:05:35] there CIP dollars that would help cover this cost.

[2:05:40] » Uh we still we still have existing funds from uh the previous borrow. Not a whole

[2:05:44] lot, but still have some existing funds from the previous CIP borrow.

[2:05:48] » I see the value in this bike rack, but I also agree with you two.

[2:05:53] » I' I'd rather put this into wayfinding into signage

[2:05:57] » some other overage that we don't even >> Yeah. That we don't even know about.

[2:06:00] Right. >> I agree. Drew, you said you had

[2:06:06] conversation with Wyatt about the bid paying for this.

[2:06:09] » They have a fund of $1,500 slated for this, and that's how basically he

[2:06:14] directed me to go down this endeavor. Um, I agreed to at no cost to try to

[2:06:19] help him create the design and then get a supplies and bring it to the board.

[2:06:23] So, it was a lengthy process partially because of the suppliers timeline and

[2:06:29] wise timeline and everything. Think so. >> I've heard rumor that there's a metal

[2:06:34] supplier south of town that has plenty of capacity in metal that he's would

[2:06:37] love to have spent on stairs. >> I'm sad to hear that. Who's that? The

[2:06:43] BPS or something. Oh, >> maybe have I go talk to him?

[2:06:48] » Yeah. >> Probably get some free bike rides

[2:06:50] » and then he can pay you that 1,500 bucks.

[2:06:52] » Yeah, like I'd ask for it, Mike. >> I think you should.

[2:06:57] » I'll ask for you. >> It's nothing. [laughter] Anybody

[2:07:02] looking to propose some board action on this item?

[2:07:09] Room seems pretty cold. All right, moving on. 7D. Discussion to amend the

[2:07:14] village code to change the Schillberg parks like schedule.

[2:07:19] » Uh yeah, so we've been uh we've fielded a few comments the past year about the

[2:07:24] hours of Schillberg Park and the light schedule that it's currently on. Uh

[2:07:28] we've asked some people have asked us to extend the current hours that the lights

[2:07:32] are on. Our current our current village code only allows the park to be open uh

[2:07:36] from from dusk to dawn basically a few minutes here or there. Um our lights are

[2:07:43] currently on timers and um you know we have people that are walking their dogs

[2:07:48] at 5:00 am to 11 o'clock at night that want to make sure they're safe and

[2:07:51] walking in the park. I totally understand that. Back to our

[2:07:54] conversation with parking. That means the park would be open outside of

[2:07:57] village ordinance. Um so uh tonight the discussion would be looking for

[2:08:01] direction to set Shelberg Park outside of the ordinance hours and setting uh

[2:08:06] their own rate their own hours for Shelberg Park if this is something we

[2:08:09] want to proceed with or we direct staff um to keep the license that currently

[2:08:14] are on. And Todd is kind of he's been answering a lot of the emails of people

[2:08:18] who have been asking so he can provide more insight too.

[2:08:22] Yeah, as it states many requests but from only the same few handful of

[2:08:26] residents requesting these additional hours. Um kind of a weird scenario, you

[2:08:32] know, grant driven opportunity to put in this wonderful pathway through village

[2:08:36] property. It's dark to the south, it's dark to the north, but we do have these

[2:08:42] lights. Um, of course, we do recognize being here all hours of the day and

[2:08:47] night. where we see it being mostly utilized is before and after school for

[2:08:52] kids to get there. So, that's the current program we've been running.

[2:08:56] Really haven't entertained doing uh these longer uh schedules, but would

[2:09:02] certainly like some direction is to see if we'd like them on any longer.

[2:09:06] » Do you foresee any complaints that the lights are on from say 5:00 a.m. to 10

[2:09:10] p.m. or 11:00 p.m. from people in the area that the lights are on?

[2:09:13] » I I'm not sure. leading up to the industrial park in Education Avenue. No

[2:09:17] residential, no resident's complaining given the location of the

[2:09:21] park. I mean, it's it's it's lit well. It's a beautiful pathway. I would be

[2:09:24] opposed to extending the hours. >> Yeah, it's a procedural thing. So, we

[2:09:28] would have to set we would have to actually add to our code setting aside

[2:09:33] Schillberg's trail outside of the park system because the parks are called out

[2:09:38] to be open from what is it a half an hour before sunrise to a half an hour

[2:09:42] after sunset. Is that what it says? It'll just be a sentence you add on that

[2:09:46] you know except for Schillberg they're open from

[2:09:48] » it would say Schillberg's trail Schillberg's lighting schedule C

[2:09:52] appendix whatever and then we can >> I want to ask it going a little

[2:09:55] different direction on this we've got a skate park or yeah skate park and a

[2:09:59] skating rink both of those I think there's no reason we can't use them

[2:10:03] after dark um especially ice skating. >> I don't think either one is illuminated

[2:10:07] are they? Oh, the ice rink is the skatep park is not

[2:10:09] » okay, >> which I would have thought it should

[2:10:12] have been and maybe it should be someday. Um cuz it is getting a lot of

[2:10:15] use and it I'm all for changing the Shelberg thing, but I feel like we ought

[2:10:22] to maybe incorporate some other things too.

[2:10:24] » Yeah. And I will say if we do good pickle ball in courts, no, they would

[2:10:27] want to go >> um I would recommend not putting lights

[2:10:30] on because they will use them past past the time limit. uh pickle ball courts

[2:10:34] have been but that's no longer here or there on the agenda but just a heads up

[2:10:37] changing other things does have other circumstances I think even a pickle bar

[2:10:40] court people use it after hours you get a lot of

[2:10:43] » you know industrial parks got second and third shifters

[2:10:46] » the big driver behind this is the morning and evening walkers I think

[2:10:49] that's the they're out walking dogs and they want a little bit more safety to be

[2:10:52] able to go out before the sun is up and you know six months of the year this

[2:10:57] isn't as big of a concern or three four months a year because the sun is coming

[2:11:01] up as early as 5:00, but during the winter months when we get

[2:11:05] some warm weather, that's where it becomes an issue. So, I mean, I'm

[2:11:09] thinking we would need to >> have a lighting ordinance

[2:11:12] recommendation, some engineering. >> No,

[2:11:16] » no, that's for commercial. >> That's for industrial.

[2:11:20] » Hey, did it have to be just there? >> Because that that's what we discussed

[2:11:24] was the industrial code part of that. >> Yeah. Um

[2:11:28] I' I'd like to hear some uh that there's other avenues there. I think we could

[2:11:32] adjust we can incorporate one lighting

[2:11:35] ordinance maybe. >> I know that Shbert Park is the the

[2:11:39] memorandum tonight, but I agree that there is going to have to be a larger

[2:11:43] broader >> subject. This is a two-step process.

[2:11:46] There'd be a board resolution tonight to operate outside of the park schedule.

[2:11:50] That would satisfy our behavior if we do lighting outside

[2:11:55] of the park's posted hours. But then the longer the second step is to amend the

[2:12:02] village code setting aside whatever defined park lighting that we want. And

[2:12:08] it could be >> park lighting. you know, parks are open

[2:12:12] from this time to this time with the exception of park lighting schedules

[2:12:16] referenced in appendix B or whatever. And then in appendix B, we can put

[2:12:20] Schilbert Trail, we can put skate park if it ever gets illuminated. We can put,

[2:12:24] you know, whatever. We just list them right there and then we don't have to

[2:12:27] worry about amending our code more than one.

[2:12:29] » Exactly

[2:12:34] six. >> I say we wait. I don't know that I want

[2:12:37] to make a change for six people in town.

[2:12:42] I think one of the the what's going to open a broader subject when it comes to

[2:12:47] parks and paths and lights and future things too is uh the overall cost of

[2:12:51] these things. We have millions of dollars in infrastructure just in the

[2:12:54] downtown alone. We own 129 municipal own street lights.

[2:13:00] I think the budget within the last two years has grown from about 5 to$10,000.

[2:13:05] We spend over 25,000 just on street light electricity. So when we do

[2:13:12] move forward with a potential decision and growth and putting more

[2:13:15] infrastructure in, we have to look hard at what the overall cost is going to be

[2:13:19] too because right now we're having a hard time supporting that

[2:13:25] that $10,000 annual. >> Sure. You're getting 70,000 hours out of

[2:13:29] a moving air than we are, you know, five or 10. And the energy consumption is a

[2:13:33] lot less. So whatever you've had in the numbers in the past hopefully are going

[2:13:37] adding more >> energy consumption is low

[2:13:39] » maintenance is higher unfortunately from what we're seeing right now seven eight

[2:13:44] years >> you got the people coming on board too I

[2:13:48] maybe let them tackle this topic for those six people and maybe that

[2:13:51] » yeah I think the bigger and then one of the things that I'd like to see then

[2:13:54] just for my own knowledge >> tell me how much it's going to cost to

[2:13:57] run the lights for six extra hours a day >> that will be low and I will be easily

[2:14:03] easily be ble to get you uh that number unfortunately

[2:14:07] » cuz that's I mean other than the programming that's the only additional

[2:14:10] expense right the time that you spend programming and then the electricity

[2:14:13] used in the life other than the life of the bulbs I guess

[2:14:15] » yes the life is going to play a role in the maintenance

[2:14:18] » so factor that in >> I will advertise the life it's going to

[2:14:23] be a small number there's other non-tangible values

[2:14:28] » well that's that's what I'm hoping to arrive at is that the number is small

[2:14:31] enough that it didn't even need to rise to the level of it being a board

[2:14:34] discussion other than the fact that it's codified in our village code.

[2:14:38] » If it wasn't if it wasn't village code would not be here.

[2:14:40] » It would already be done. That's the thing. I think I think it's a beautiful

[2:14:43] walkway and it's underutilized because it's not lit.

[2:14:46] » Yeah. And I and I think I would make the motion right now and we could decide on

[2:14:50] the hours but that >> that Schillberg be exempt from the other

[2:14:53] park hours for light for open to close. >> It would have to be a board resolution

[2:14:58] that would then create a need to change code later.

[2:15:01] » Let's make it happen. I would support it if you if

[2:15:05] » I make that motion. Thank you. I have a board resolution to exclude Shielbergs

[2:15:10] from the regular park schedule. >> Second.

[2:15:13] » All right. We have a motion by Ron and a second by Nicole. Can we get a better

[2:15:19] description of what this motion actually is?

[2:15:25] [laughter] I'll let Carrie type for a few minutes. Yeah.

[2:15:34] Such code number what number would be >> yes reference.

[2:15:41] [clears throat] [laughter]

[2:15:44] » Thank you. Discussion on the motion. >> I'm flabbergasted. We're making code

[2:15:50] changes for six people.

[2:16:02] Yeah, I just really don't know how many people would

[2:16:08] use it if there there were lights, >> right?

[2:16:17] » Any other discussion on the motion? All those in favor say I.

[2:16:21] » I. >> Post say no.

[2:16:24] I don't know what Van's vote is, but okay.

[2:16:27] » I think it would matter. >> Matters in terms of the record.

[2:16:32] » Yeah. Well, he hasn't voted on anything else yet

[2:16:34] » that we know of. >> Are you going to be able to get

[2:16:37] information from him? >> We can.

[2:16:39] » We should just do a thumbs up or a thumb >> or something. I mean, I know that we're

[2:16:43] already >> at this point. We just exclude him from

[2:16:45] the vot. We've only Yeah, we've only published a five member board for

[2:16:48] tonight, but I would like to know what his were

[2:16:51] » if it's [clears throat] even something we could append in the minutes later.

[2:16:54] » Motion carries. All right. Uh seven,

[2:17:00] what is it? Where are we on now? E >> Y

[2:17:04] » Department of Public Works half ton truck CIP purchase.

[2:17:08] » Yes. For 2026 27 CIP can improve budget at P placement of public works half ton

[2:17:13] truck. Um, outside of this state bid, I did procure another uh state bid

[2:17:19] locally. Uh, that came uh $7,000 over. Truck wasn't quite apple to apples, but

[2:17:25] we're close. Um, we have a truck potentially available to us that hasn't

[2:17:30] quite hit the ground uh from Dodge of Burnsville. So,

[2:17:36] I would be happy to say that we'd like to introduce the first hybrid vehicle uh

[2:17:40] municipality. Um,

[2:17:44] again, we have not reviewed this truck in its completeness other than the

[2:17:49] provided documents that I've showed you. We would do that, of course, before

[2:17:54] getting a PO for the purchase of the truck

[2:17:59] » truck while you're charging or is it selfcharging?

[2:18:03] » Selfcharging. >> Okay. Hybrid versus

[2:18:06] Well, be a plugin. >> I'm not even opposed to a full electric

[2:18:09] at some point. Um to my comment from before,

[2:18:13] just as with the the the uh not the cameras, the Motorola radios,

[2:18:21] we found out that the state bid wasn't the best solution.

[2:18:23] » Yeah. >> And now we did look at two state bids.

[2:18:27] » I do two state bids. I'm very fortunate um to be working somehow Dodge of

[2:18:32] Burnsville. uh they have this excellent commercial fleet um manager that's able

[2:18:39] to get me regional and and state discounts and then also looks internally

[2:18:43] for something even greater. So I could tell you honestly that I could probably

[2:18:47] get a a a great deal on a big horn with heated seats and all kind of stuff

[2:18:51] [laughter] I really could that would come well under the RCIP number but this

[2:18:56] fits the bill for us. I think it's a tremendous deal. I think it's a great

[2:18:59] price and I'm I'm shooting the messenger today just because it's the message is

[2:19:04] for all the departments. >> You know, we don't need to use the state

[2:19:07] contract. I don't know that it's a cheap answer.

[2:19:10] » 40 grand seems cheap for a truck. >> I'm not a Dodge guy. Um,

[2:19:16] we've tried the rest. I mean another thing too uh just

[2:19:22] a little more background 2024 Ram 3500 we purchased also from Ram of Burnsville

[2:19:27] uh regional NAFTA rates state bid and we ended up going with their price which

[2:19:33] was lower than both of them in 2024. So in this scenario the state just happens

[2:19:38] to be the lowest. What's the FWP as opposed to the MSRP

[2:19:45] on the price confirmation? I was just a little confused by it

[2:19:50] because it's it's lower. Um it's so the MSRP is uh 49 and that's

[2:19:58] what the state discount is going off of and it's 40,700

[2:20:02] and then there's the FWP and that's 479.

[2:20:09] » That's a good question I can certainly ask.

[2:20:11] » Yeah. Like why aren't we going off of that one? It's another two grand off.

[2:20:15] Well roughly two grand off. No,

[2:20:20] » it's your >> factory wholesale price

[2:20:23] » is it? >> That's what the Google says.

[2:20:25] » Yeah, that's what we're getting to. [laughter]

[2:20:28] » Got it. >> But why can't we go off that one?

[2:20:31] [laughter] >> Because that's what they

[2:20:34] » Yeah, that's what they bought it for [laughter]

[2:20:38] stuff. >> Give us a truck.

[2:20:42] » Oh jeez. [laughter] Now you've done it. There you go.

[2:20:44] There's no wrong wrong thing about asking for these things, especially with

[2:20:50] cars. Um, I'm in that process myself and I always

[2:20:55] » I'm like, well, like what is this? >> I support you getting a new car, by the

[2:20:59] way. [laughter] I want to push it again. [clears throat]

[2:21:02] » I make a motion public works purchase or have ton truck purchase, which we

[2:21:08] already approved. >> A second. Motion by Ron and a second by

[2:21:13] Nicole to approve this purchase. All those in favor say I.

[2:21:17] » I. Say no. Motion carries. >> Thank you.

[2:21:21] » Thanks. >> All right. 7 F utility department job

[2:21:28] description plural.

[2:21:32] » Yeah, Rick's been busy. >> Yeah, it's been a thing. Whole vibe.

[2:21:39] Uh what do we have first? Is it uh Ralph's first operator description on

[2:21:43] your packet? [snorts] >> Excellent. So I'll uh as we know we

[2:21:47] talked about last year uh Ralph has is set to retire after 42 years of service.

[2:21:52] Um in anticipation of that I updated the uh job description and am seeking

[2:21:56] approval uh for the job description and posting the position uh left open by his

[2:22:01] retirement um so I can start the uh process of filling the position.

[2:22:06] Sure you know what you want. So I will make a

[2:22:11] motion we approve this job description. Second motion by Arvid and a second by

[2:22:17] Mike to approve these descriptions. There's two.

[2:22:21] » Oh, you want to do both at the same time?

[2:22:23] » We could do both at the same time. I guess it's in the uh

[2:22:25] » Is that what you meant, Arvin? >> I was looking at one, but I certainly

[2:22:29] could be convinced to go to >> amendment.

[2:22:33] Arbit meant peace. that too. >> Do you want me to speak about the uh

[2:22:39] other one slightly? >> We are. Yeah, we see it's related to the

[2:22:42] additional duties. >> I for that idea.

[2:22:45] » Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. Good. They're they're well

[2:22:48] written. >> Well, approve as presented, right?

[2:22:50] » Yes. >> Good job,

[2:22:52] » 30 years in HR and these are well written.

[2:22:54] » Thank you. Thank you. >> All those in favor say I.

[2:22:58] » I. Post say no. >> Carried. I do want to say next month we

[2:23:02] will be uh right next month but for Ralph we will do a little ceremony for

[2:23:05] premier. >> Yeah, I cleared it with him today. Um he

[2:23:08] said don't you said don't wait until I'm not an employee.

[2:23:11] » Okay. [laughter] >> So take or whatever.

[2:23:13] » I gave him the I gave him the option of the March or the April meeting. So we

[2:23:17] will be honoring him at the next meeting then for his years of service for the

[2:23:21] » Yeah. So we we had a good laugh over it. But yeah, he said March meeting would

[2:23:24] work just >> gonna be a little get together form and

[2:23:25] stuff too. >> Yeah, we're we're working that as staff

[2:23:27] right now. >> Working on that internally. So, thank

[2:23:30] you all. >> Don't worry, I'm not the party planner,

[2:23:32] so it'll be much better attended. >> Rick, party planner.

[2:23:37] » Me? >> Yeah.

[2:23:37] » Oh, we we're'll work on it together. [laughter]

[2:23:41] » I'm building right now. It's a whole thing.

[2:23:44] » I'm not drinking the punch. [laughter] >> It's a whole thing right now.

[2:23:49] » All right. Thank you all. >> Thank you.

[2:23:52] » All right. Uh 6G, application for payment number one, rebid bluff tower

[2:23:57] water main replacement. It's the next few are all on Eric here. I'll let them

[2:24:01] present on these. >> All right. Yep. This is just what it

[2:24:04] says. It is application for payment number one for the Bluff Tower project

[2:24:09] and roughly the amount of or I'll say the exact amount of $7,870.75

[2:24:17] um and all work associated with a tree clearing. So the project manager for

[2:24:24] Minger noted he's like basically I I want to cover my my sub's bill. That's

[2:24:28] what he's looking to do. So, the work is work is done.

[2:24:33] » I will move to approve this application for payment.

[2:24:35] » I'll second. >> Motion by myself and second by Nicole to

[2:24:39] approve this payment for the Rebid Bluff Tower water main replacement project.

[2:24:44] » Well, he's covering more than just a little bit.

[2:24:49] » Oh, he's got mobilization. >> Yeah, he's got gas.

[2:24:53] Um, >> any other discussion on the motion? All

[2:24:56] those in favor say I. I post say no. Carried.

[2:25:01] Uh 6H or 7H, sorry. River Street and Third Avenue reconstruction

[2:25:07] authorization to bid. >> All right. So, we've talked about a

[2:25:11] little bit earlier that Devon and I um had a a public involvement meeting last

[2:25:17] week. That was not with public went over the project. Again, uh we are at a a a

[2:25:22] stage in the design process. We're asking the village board for approval to

[2:25:28] go to bid. Um Mike had asked a couple of questions about lighting and sidewalk.

[2:25:33] And I can kind of go through the different items that we're including in

[2:25:36] the plan, but specific to lighting, there is new lighting along the the

[2:25:42] stretch. Um, we're adding a light pole on third a

[2:25:50] about say a third of the way into the block and then there's a light pole on

[2:25:55] the corner. >> So you're in here.

[2:25:58] » Um, can't quite see where you're putting

[2:26:02] actually, but down on third.

[2:26:08] » Yep. So a little bump out. We were looking at your packet too or online on

[2:26:13] the bump out on the north side of third and then on the corner of river and

[2:26:16] third and then we've got a light pole mid block on the west side of river.

[2:26:22] It's um there's a light pole that's there now actually an Excel pole Excel

[2:26:26] light that will be removed [clears throat] and then we've got two

[2:26:30] up near the intersection of 4th Avenue. the the sidewalk along the Gang

[2:26:37] development will ultimately be the villages. It's on in the rideway, but

[2:26:42] the AIO Bluff Apartments project will install that sidewalk as part of their

[2:26:46] project. Just correlates better. That's what they had shown on the plans that

[2:26:50] were approved by the board as well. It correlates with construction schedules

[2:26:55] that village puts in the curb street. They'll be putting on the sidewalk and

[2:26:59] the landscaping on that site. um go on with I guess the improvements

[2:27:07] that we're doing. Uh placing the water and sewer mains over 100 years old. All

[2:27:12] the services that are along the the project corridor. We're installing storm

[2:27:17] sewer. That's what the red line is on the the plan. So extends down to Third

[2:27:24] Avenue and then runs north. Couple of inlets along the way. Uh we'll be

[2:27:30] eliminating, as I mentioned earlier, a couple of outfalls. Uh one's kind of

[2:27:35] directly west of 4th Avenue and then one is is just north of where the old

[2:27:41] hospital was located. Those will be one at the old hospital will be removed

[2:27:46] and the one that's just north will be be plugged and left. Actually, pipe will be

[2:27:50] left. It runs underneath drive. >> Is it on private property? It

[2:27:54] » is on private. >> So, it's just going to be plugged and

[2:27:55] left. [clears throat] Has there been conversation with the property owners on

[2:27:59] that? >> Yep. Actually talked to them at length

[2:28:02] after the meeting about that and a few other things. So,

[2:28:06] » okay. >> And then the storm will actually extend

[2:28:10] up to Lad Park. There's a little park that's just a residential lot basically

[2:28:16] that's been turned into park and we'll create a new outfall to the river there.

[2:28:20] There's another outfall that's directly west of Fifth Avenue um that we could

[2:28:26] have taken the storm for all the way up to that and discharged there. We decided

[2:28:31] as staff to put it on Lad Park um being on village property being able to

[2:28:36] maintain it. uh felt like a better solution than ultimately the outfall

[2:28:42] that's on private property at fifth um could be eliminated that storms were

[2:28:48] directed down to this new outfall >> and are the easements and everything

[2:28:52] taken care of now like we don't have anything missing anywhere anymore

[2:28:55] » so working on that one we're working on that so there's there are not easements

[2:29:00] on the existing outfall that's currently remaining at fifth

[2:29:04] » we we met with that with with that homeowner last week Okay.

[2:29:07] » Yeah. And so, uh, we will be working on >> That's phase two, right? That's that's

[2:29:12] in the phase two area. >> It's in the

[2:29:14] » Yeah. So, eventually we would like to dead on that one, get rid of that

[2:29:16] outfall, too, being on private property and just accessing everything through

[2:29:20] the outfalls and the one on village property. Then,

[2:29:23] » Glad Park. Yeah. >> Um, there will be some storm water

[2:29:29] quality improvements. Uh, one of the manholes we fitted with some some

[2:29:33] functionality that helps take out sediment and and trash and things that

[2:29:37] just keeps it out of the river. We're doing some landscaping similar to

[2:29:43] what's down on on First A and Chieftain the bumpouts, you know, the low

[2:29:50] maintenance type type stuff. Um,

[2:29:56] » how is this going to go in conjunction with the gone property? So, because I

[2:30:01] wouldn't want to put any landscaping or anything until that's done just because

[2:30:05] of trap like >> Yes. So, the the landscaping like on the

[2:30:10] g side will be they'll do that as well. >> Okay.

[2:30:14] » So, there's the the kind of corner on the southwest there.

[2:30:19] » They will landscape that space. >> Okay.

[2:30:22] So, >> I'm assuming you're going to submit more

[2:30:26] than four drawings, right? Because it's only a partial package. Is there four

[2:30:29] here? >> Uh, there's only one drawing.

[2:30:32] » Oh, sorry. I was thinking there's four of something. Maybe I was thinking of a

[2:30:35] different >> So, no, I'm not asking for approval of

[2:30:39] the plans. I'm asking for authorization to go to bed.

[2:30:43] » I um I'm going to stumble again with this because I don't know why we can't.

[2:30:49] Um, along the same lines of what Nicole was just suggesting, there's there's

[2:30:54] going to be um assets that Gan's going to install,

[2:30:59] then I'm going to say suggest are not going to be clear who's going to

[2:31:02] maintain them in the long term. Um, and I can appreciate your landscape

[2:31:06] architect is going to probably call out some neat things, but Todd's going to

[2:31:10] get stuck maintaining them or there's going to be a piston match between us

[2:31:13] and gone. So I well and and you know Todd and and staff

[2:31:20] everybody's staff levels is reviewing the plans. Todd and Rick have been

[2:31:25] involved throughout um they on what gone does you know the sidewalk uh I think

[2:31:35] it's clear what's what's in the rideway and what is not. And so they'll be

[2:31:40] submitting um landscaping plans. we talked about too was brought up at a at

[2:31:45] a different meeting or want to look at a I don't know if you

[2:31:52] call it a a memorial plaque but a a plaque recognizing

[2:31:56] the the hospital location and those that that used to work there. Um, we have

[2:32:01] talked about that with them as well of maybe what they do is they set aside a a

[2:32:06] spot for a bench and a plaque um up on the the River Street Rideway and we

[2:32:13] figure out exactly what that is. Glad that that was part of the discussion

[2:32:17] that was brought up by more than one resident. So,

[2:32:22] uh, remind me what these colors are again. So, red represents the um,

[2:32:26] » red is storm sewer. >> Storm sewer. Okay. Green is sanitary and

[2:32:30] and blue is water. >> Got it. Thank you.

[2:32:37] » When the um the schedule of when this gets done, our work would happen after

[2:32:42] Dawn's done >> simultaneously.

[2:32:44] » Same time. >> So they they're starting um potentially

[2:32:48] next month. >> When do you think they're going to be

[2:32:51] done with like u their their crane type equipment?

[2:32:56] » Yes, we have talked about that. making sure a final lift does not happen until

[2:32:59] all heavy equipment's out that wouldn't damage the the existing.

[2:33:03] » Right. >> I I'm going to

[2:33:06] where I was going with this is I'm going to suggest there's time that we can wait

[2:33:08] to see a more complete set of plans. It's I I want to make it be nice to see

[2:33:13] some language to make sure everybody's clear who owns what. Make silly as it

[2:33:17] sounds, make sure they understand that to clean their own sidewalks and that

[2:33:19] we're not going to lose code. I get it. But it's I ran into this in bigger

[2:33:24] cities where you they put something in and assume you're just going to take

[2:33:27] care of it because it's a your sidewalk or something. Um the

[2:33:34] like little things like the developer agreement in Visa that covers that.

[2:33:40] I hope to never hear about it again then. I hope I hope nobody in that the

[2:33:43] Grace apartment ever complains about the light you're putting right outside their

[2:33:46] bedroom window. um

[2:33:50] » or Todd ever complains about a bush or a tree that it got put in some landscape

[2:33:54] area because it didn't pay the bank anymore. So I

[2:34:01] » I guess my my concern that it's happening simultaneously

[2:34:05] is making sure that >> some of that standard construction

[2:34:10] » Yeah. that everyone's working together. >> This isn't uncommon when you have two

[2:34:14] projects in the building going at the same time. I'd agree with that

[2:34:16] wholeheartedly. And I know Steve, which one is did Steve bidden get?

[2:34:20] » Uh, we haven't This is God forbid yet. That was Ridge Road.

[2:34:22] » Ridge. Okay. You're going to whoever's going to be there doesn't want to

[2:34:26] warranty their street, assuming there's another construction project going on.

[2:34:30] So, they're going to pick a schedule that's going to say, "Okay, we're not

[2:34:32] doing that final lift, which is that last 3 in of asphalt or something,

[2:34:36] » right?" >> However, it just I don't see the

[2:34:39] schedule to push this that fast. I'd like to see more drawings.

[2:34:44] Well, and we have um we have more detailed drawings. We were actually at

[2:34:49] 90% until a change we made just last week and now we're making some

[2:34:53] adjustments. Um, I made the conscious effort not to put the plans in the in

[2:34:59] board's packet and uh provide just kind of more of a graphical

[2:35:04] um and you know it can be different but I'm

[2:35:09] utilizing staff myself for basically the engineer plans um and the the board for

[2:35:19] the project. I I I have full [clears throat] confidence in the staff

[2:35:22] and and you and and Devon working together in the process. So, I'm going

[2:35:26] to make a motion to authorize the bid of River Street Third Avenue

[2:35:29] reconstruction. >> I'll second.

[2:35:34] » There's no construction schedule in the original request for bid for the water

[2:35:38] tower and that really put us in a predicament

[2:35:42] and that was your initial set of plans.

[2:35:47] So I I I don't have the same confidence. So

[2:35:52] Mike speaks opposed. Is there anybody that has any other discussion on the

[2:35:57] motion on the floor?

[2:36:02] Seeing another no other discussion, we'll proceed to the vote. All those in

[2:36:06] favor say I. >> I. Post say no. Motion here.

[2:36:13] » Okay. Moving on. 7 I Ridge Road Extension bid review and authorization.

[2:36:20] » Yeah. So, this didn't make it in the electronic packet and that's what was

[2:36:23] handed out and and was nice enough to print it out for me uh twice.

[2:36:27] » Yeah. Go on the website. It'll be going on the website tomorrow.

[2:36:31] » Um and and the reason it didn't make it in is because we actually opened it this

[2:36:35] morning. >> Yeah. And um we did that uh basically to

[2:36:40] gain a week of of it being out there for contractors to find and to bid on. Um we

[2:36:47] received eight bids. You can see the the different contractors listed. Maybe I

[2:36:52] can read them out for the public to know too. We've got

[2:36:58] JNS General Contracting, Albertson and Excavating, A1 Excavating, Stout

[2:37:03] Construction,

[2:37:08] Total Excavating, Tri City Con, Contractors, O Suns, and Minger

[2:37:14] Construction Biders with JNS being the low bid at

[2:37:22] 873,000. $45.85.

[2:37:27] Um, our last construction estimate was about 1.1 million.

[2:37:34] And so it's it's in the range and and lower. I mean, everybody was kind of

[2:37:39] right there. Um, the highest being about 1.25

[2:37:46] million.

[2:37:49] I did talk to JNS after the bid, asked them if they were comfortable with where

[2:37:54] their numbers were at project. Um they they are comfortable.

[2:38:01] Um >> they're they're currently on site for

[2:38:04] the Worer project. They're the contractor working for Worer which

[2:38:12] » So was anybody else a 40% swing to warrant of concern,

[2:38:18] » right? They have no mobilization costs. None.

[2:38:23] I meant figuratively. Yeah.

[2:38:31] » And the the health of the tips like this number too.

[2:38:35] most important >> 15,000. Yeah.

[2:38:36] » Yeah. >> 30,000 less.

[2:38:40] » So, we feel um confident that JNS can do the work. Um we will be out there doing

[2:38:47] inspection. Well, on your approval, the construction administration contract

[2:38:51] which we'll bring to next meeting, but we've got to be out there. or somebody

[2:38:56] has to be out there for inspection of water and sewer and say that that

[2:39:02] » Albright Albrightson has done work for us too, right?

[2:39:05] » Yes. >> And their numbers really close.

[2:39:07] » Yeah. >> They did the demo of the skate park

[2:39:10] house, didn't they? >> No, Albertson did uh Simmon.

[2:39:13] » Oh, that's right. They did Simmon Drive. Yeah.

[2:39:16] » Oh, they did the the pavement out here. Yeah.

[2:39:19] » Only 90 >> They did the parking lot and some of the

[2:39:24] street pavement last summer, too. So we we've done work with all brason also

[2:39:27] that >> yeah but the total bid comes in

[2:39:29] » right >> it's it's everybody it's it's games we

[2:39:32] play >> I move we award this to JNS

[2:39:37] motion by myself second by Mike to award this bid to JNS any discussion all those

[2:39:42] in favor say I >> I post say no motion carries

[2:39:49] 7J discussion regarding resolution 2602

[2:39:54] petitioning the secretary of transportation for airport improvement

[2:39:58] aid. >> Um this these are uh resolutions that

[2:40:03] have the board has approved in the past. This is for the airports um

[2:40:09] um aids that they they get. It has to be approved at the board level, not at the

[2:40:13] airport commission level. So that's why it's before you tonight.

[2:40:15] » There's no money on out of our pockets or this.

[2:40:18] » I would make a motion that we approve this resolution.

[2:40:20] » A second. Motion by Mike and a second by Nicole to adopt resolution 2602. Any

[2:40:26] discussion?

[2:40:31] » Yeah, it's a maintenance building, a new control power.

[2:40:36] » It's They might not build them. >> They ask for money for

[2:40:40] » They ask for the money. >> That's right. [laughter]

[2:40:43] » Schools are ambitious. >> I just want people to know that doesn't

[2:40:47] mean they're doing it. They're just >> getting the funds. Yes.

[2:40:49] » Yeah. They're trying. >> All right. All those in favor say I.

[2:40:54] » Post say no. >> Motion carries. All right. Before we

[2:40:58] move to item eight, which is future agenda items and updates, we have a

[2:41:01] procedural issue to take care of. We have a reconsideration. So

[2:41:05] reconsideration by Robert's rules. Um, in order to move motion reconsideration,

[2:41:12] the motion must be made by a member of the board and the prevailing voting

[2:41:17] side. I believe this was a unanimous vote. So any one of us can move to

[2:41:21] reconsider the motion that was made pursuant to agenda item seven

[2:41:27] [sighs and gasps]

[2:41:30] » six.

[2:41:33] Yeah, >> it's item six. So uh I move we

[2:41:38] reconsider item six. Typically motions to reconsider require

[2:41:44] roll call vote. Uh so if there's no discussion on this motion we will

[2:41:48] proceed through roll call Nicole

[2:41:53] Harvet Ron myself as an I and Mike. >> So it's unanimous. So this item has been

[2:41:59] recalled and is now open for discussion. Carrie do you want to give us the

[2:42:03] details on what we should be doing now?

[2:42:17] It's whether we're going to bill people that do not have utility accounts with

[2:42:21] the village or if we're only going to build people that have utility accounts.

[2:42:24] » These are land owners in the village that do not currently utilize village

[2:42:28] utility hookups. >> Yes.

[2:42:30] » Got it. >> So, yeah, we we would have to create new

[2:42:34] accounts for these people and find out who they are or we're not going to bill

[2:42:36] them at all. So, that's kind of what what the

[2:42:39] » thoughts I don't want to bill them. >> No.

[2:42:45] » Not using sounds latigious. >> Why don't you make that clear motion and

[2:42:50] somebody >> If somebody would like to propose a

[2:42:53] motion that we adopt ordinance 2601 excluding non

[2:42:59] utility customers.

[2:43:04] Second >> motion by Mike, second by Nicole to

[2:43:08] adopt ordinance 2601 amending chapter 2011 utility to add article 6 storm

[2:43:12] water utility to village code excluding non utility customers.

[2:43:18] » You had a puppet changing.

[2:43:23] » Is there any discussion? Excuse me. We are not in public comment at the moment

[2:43:28] and the public hearing is complete on this. We don't need to have another

[2:43:32] public hearing for something that's already complete.

[2:43:39] Is there any further discussion on the motion on the floor?

[2:43:43] All right. All those in favor say I. I. Post say no. Motion carries. All right.

[2:43:48] Now, we've corrected that issue. Uh item eight, future agenda items and updates.

[2:43:54] Uh moving around the room, Nicole.

[2:43:58] » Nothing. Harvid, >> nothing. Congratulations on your

[2:44:01] retirement.

[2:44:05] » I don't have anything. Mike,

[2:44:14] we'll do that. And the budget every >> Yeah, the budget is another issue. And

[2:44:18] wherever Neil is, I'm sure he wants us to say it. So, budget $400,000.

[2:44:25] » I was a little busy last month with budget stuff.

[2:44:28] » All right. Uh that's it everybody. We are adjourned at 8:44. Thank you.

[2:44:58] I will white t-shirt on top.

[2:45:02] » You better get your dog tag.

[2:45:09] » I always I always probably always has a tag. He just

[2:45:14] doesn't wear [laughter]

[2:45:18] » he doesn't

[2:45:40] like [laughter]

[2:45:53] I do have [laughter] a phone to pick with

[2:45:55] » it. I just

[2:46:04] » mean

[2:46:17] [laughter]

[2:46:25] we're not

[2:46:36] Yeah, because the vote that we took after the public hearing was so

[2:46:40] everything that we do after public hearing can be undone and re

[2:46:44] » the public hearing just provided

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