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Okay, good afternoon everyone. Welcome
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to the regular open meeting of the
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Sewish Town Council, Tuesday, August the
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18th at 2 p.m. in council chambers. So,
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could we please have [clears throat] an
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approval of the agenda and there are no
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late items? No. Thank you. Thank you,
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Councelor Bennett, Councelor Chong. All
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in favor? Thank you. and the adoption of
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some minutes, the regular open minutes
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from July the 21st and the special open
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minutes from July the 28th. Could we
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have the adoption councelor King,
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Councelor Potter Rica? All in favor?
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Thank you. So, first off, we have a
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development variance permit application
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DVP 26-02
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for 8 Chardonnay Court and our planner
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um Miss Dwang is online. So, please go
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ahead, Miss Dwang.
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>> Thank you. So, I don't have a a
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PowerPoint presentation for this item
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since we just reviewed it at the last
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council meeting. Um, but just as a quick
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recap, at the last council meeting in
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July, um, council had postponed
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consideration of this item pending
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further information regarding the
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driveway dimensions at the property. Um,
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so staff did end up following up on the
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resolution by undertaking a site visit
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to measure out uh, the driveway and it
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was found that the driveway is
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approximately 6.4 4 m to 6.9 m um as it
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exists between the building wall um to
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the end of the driveway as it extends
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beyond the parcel line but excludes uh
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the sidewalk area of course and uh we
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just want to highlight that despite this
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from a staff perspective uh we just we
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do reiterate that the purpose of the
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provision of off- streetet uh parking
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within the parcel boundaries is
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generally to avoid externalization of
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uses on public lands um and also to
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mitigate potential conflicts associated
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with those. Um, additionally, we do
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remain concerned regarding the potential
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cumulative impacts of similar variance
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requests coming in um, along Chardonnay
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court and the potential approval of
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those requests where this application
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were to be approved. So, uh, we are
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continuing to recommend denial uh, with
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respect to this application. Thank you.
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>> Uh, thank you very much, Miss Dwong. I'm
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going to um ask if the applicant, Miss
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McCay or the applicant's uh um designate
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would like to speak. You have five
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minutes. Thank you.
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>> Thank you, Mayor McCordoff. Um my name
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is Gina McCay. I am the applicant for
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the owner at 8 Chardonnay Court. And
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Terl actually wanted to be here today,
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but she wasn't able to, so she did
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provide a letter that I'll read for her
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on her behalf. Attention to Sue Town
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Council. Thanks for taking the time to
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review my variance request in detail. I
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understand that Ms. Mccay has
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represented my case thoroughly, but I
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believe a letter of self-representation
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will also add some enlightenment to this
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application. One year ago, my two boys
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and I purchased the newly built home at 8 Chardonnay Court. I purchased
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this home in a quiet residential street
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in Paradise in hopes this would be my
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forever bungalow in my retirement and
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later years. In the final negotiations
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of the sale of the house, it was agreed
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in the final offer that a full kitchen
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with all appliances would be added as an
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independent suite in the house which has
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a door connecting to the upstairs. With
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the understanding that this would be
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done lawfully and with permitting, I
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agreed to the sale and purchase the
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home. Based on my single income, it not
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been feasible for me to purchase the
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home without the option of having
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tenants in this independent dwelling.
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With that in mind, my real estate and I
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addressed the legalization of the suite
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and I told her it was paramount to
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moving forward. We were reassured by the
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selling agent that the suite would be
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able to be legalized and met full
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requirements. My largest concern if
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there is damage to the home in an
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independent dwelling, my insurance would
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not cover the cost of the damage. It is
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also important in alignment with my
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morals that we do things right and avoid
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illegal business activities. Upon taking
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ownership of the home, um it was
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incredibly important for me to have the
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suite legalized. Without approval of the
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variance, the secondary suite cannot be
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legalized and the rental income required
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to sustain home home ownership will no
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longer be possible. After I moved into
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the home, I started to legalize the
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suite, but came up with the issue of
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tenants parking on my driveway. I put in
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an application in November last year and
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then was um weeks later was it was made
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clear to me that the reason having
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tenants park in my driveway has become a
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concern is that the town um property is
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um is about onethird of my driveway. Um
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this was a fact that I was never made
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aware of at the time of the sale of the
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home. As we move further into the
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approval, I became aware that the
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builder had not applied for the required
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building permit to build the kitchen in
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the suite, which is another major
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concern to having the suite legalized.
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As the matter continued and the
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terminology in the process became far
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more complex for me to handle on my own,
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I withdrew my application and to
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consider my options. At this point, I
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was advised that Ms. McCay was available
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for hire and could professionally handle
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my application. In this application, my
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neighbors have brought up many valuable
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points and concerns regarding parking on
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the street, and I validate their
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concerns. I'm also in agreement with my
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neighbors about the width of our
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culde-sac road and the ability of
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emergency vehicles to pass and children
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at play, mine being two of them. Um,
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this application is a specific request
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to allow the town to allow my tenant to
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park on the town's portion of my
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driveway and not in the street at all.
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My neighbors have never comp commented
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or complained about my tenants parking
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in the street as it's simply been a
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non-issue and doesn't happen. After the
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last council meeting, my driveway was
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measured and it was proven that there
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was enough room to park three vehicles
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in my driveway. My neighbors will agree
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that over the last year, the tenants
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have been in my suite, they have never
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parked on the street. I also believe
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that my neighbors would agree that only
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a few times have they ever seen my
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company park on the street. That is only
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if it's been a major holiday. If that's
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a concern, my my family is more than
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happy to park on 36th Avenue. The
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application at this variance is
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regarding whether the town is willing to
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allow my tenant to park on their portion
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of the driveway 100% off the street 100%
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of the time. Once again, I appreciate
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your careful consideration of this
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matter and trust you will understand the
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reasoning to have this parking approved
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so it's able to be lawful to have a
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legal suite in my home to manage the
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costs associated with my home to add
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well scrutinized reference checked
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population density to su and to maintain
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a quiet peaceful culde-sac. Uh with kind
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regards Terrell Hector. Now I just
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personally from a professional
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perspective want to take one moment to
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just identify four specific points.
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First council asked that the driveway be
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measured and then the town's um has
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confirmed now that it's four 6.4 to 6.9
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m long which is more than the 6 m
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minimum. The application does not seek
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uh permission for street parking or
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another suite. It seeks a specific sight
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specific variance for the parking
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requirement associated with one
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secondary suite. The precedent uh
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concern it should be considered for
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sure. Um but approval of this variance
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does not create a blanket exemption.
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Each future application will remain
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subject to its own sightsp specific
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assessment. And I just want to remind
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council that the application for the DVP
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was made made in order to address the
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situation that the homeowner became
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aware of after she attempted to obtain a
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business license. It was not made in
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response to a bylaw complaint or for any
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concerns received at town hall because
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of street parking um by the owner's
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tenants. Thank you. Thanks.
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>> Thank you very much, Miss McKay. Um,
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council, does anybody have any questions
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or concerns about this application?
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I have one question and perhaps Miss
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McCay can answer it. Perhaps Miss Dwong
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can. We have heard from several people
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in the culde-sac that there is not just
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one um suite in the basement, but in
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fact there are two. And several people
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have
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sent us emails saying that they're they
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have seen and talked to the two renters
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in the basement. Has can you answer
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that, Miss McCay, or um I'm I'm not sure
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where to go with that information.
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>> Thank you, Mayor McCordov. I actually
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cannot either um um collaborate or deny
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that. I have not seen that portion of
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the basement. I have seen the suite. I
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have not been into the other portion of
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the basement, but the tenant or the
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owner, Ter
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a um roommate who whose roommate whose
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room is in the basement and she can
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access that suite from outside. So, as
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part of the building permit application
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process, the um the owner has no problem
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having that area of the house inspected
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and if anything needs to be brought up
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to code or whatnot, she has no problem
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with that. But there is only one suite
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and she's applying for one suite
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» council. This becomes very confusing
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because we have had numerous uh
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residents on the street that have um
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sent us information that we have to
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consider. and the um the owner of the
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property who owned the whole property at
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one point and did the developing uh of the 18 lots is quite concerned about
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what is happening. Um so um we're this
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is a a difficult um issue to deal with.
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I guess I will go first. I am quite
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concerned about all of the buildings and
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the then the cars and the trucks and
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everything else that could be in there.
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And um I my my I'm tempted to uh go
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along with the recommendation that this
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variance be denied and I am happy to
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listen to anybody else on council who
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would like to speak to this.
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No,
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go ahead, counselor Chong.
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>> Thank you. I think me and Jim were just
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having a little bit of a
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» fair enough. Um I think it's important
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to to clarify um this this case here. I
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mean there is some confusion. Uh there
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seems to be a consistent theme through
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all the correspondents and that is a
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concern of um blocking emergency
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vehicles um from entering the culdeac
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because there may be vehicles that are
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parked on the street. However, as as
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staff have confirmed, there is adequate
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space on the driveway for um all three
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vehicles to park on the driveway. And
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that space also aligns with our um
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parking bylaws. The issue here is that
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by the property line, part of that space
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is public even though it's paved exactly
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the same as the rest of the driveway.
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Um, from the aerial
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photographs,
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there is a sidewalk as well, but it
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seems like staff had measured only the
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driveway, and vehicles that park on the
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driveway would not be butdding onto the
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sidewalk either. So, this comes down, in
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my opinion, this comes down to the
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spirit of the law and the letter of the
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law. the spirit of the law,
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this property does comply with having
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adequate space for the parking
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requirements that we have instilled.
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The issue is is the invisible lie. Now
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that is where the letter of the law
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comes into play.
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My larger concern is how this
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development could have
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passed all those checks. And it seems
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like there the owner had done as much of
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her due diligence to check those boxes.
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But as we know with property purchases,
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there's always things that rear ugly
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heads.
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I think that these variances come to
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council for a reason and that is because
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they are case by case determination and
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then none of them are the same and it's
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up to us to make that decision
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and in my opinion this variance I I'm in
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support of the variance because
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it doesn't actually there is minimal to
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no risk of vehicles being parked on the
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side of the street that driveway in all
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intents and purposes is does comply
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except for that invisible eye.
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» Thank you. I appreciate you saying that.
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My concern is I guess that that might
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work for a car if uh we have a truck or
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a motor home or um some of the vehicles
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could be quite a bit longer and
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therefore they would not fit on there
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and that was one of the issues that was
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brought up the last time. Um, but you're
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quite right. It's confusing. We've been
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dealing with it for a month and we've
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had lots and lots of correspondence
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about it. So, is there anybody else who
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would like to weigh in on this? Go
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ahead, council.
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>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Could I just get
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clarity on the width? I'm old school.
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Can you do it in footage for me? The
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width and the length.
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>> Maybe we should ask Miss Dwang. She is
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the one who wrote the brief report.
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Could we could you clarify that, please?
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I am just doing the quick math because I
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also don't know it off the top of my
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head. [laughter]
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So 6.4 m to feet is 20.99 ft.
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6.9 m to feet is 22.64t.
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» Thank you. Does that help? That would be
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sort of a truck.
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>> So you feel comfortable if there's three
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cars side by side, at least one door in
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each vehicle could open in that width.
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» So with respect to the measurements
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provided, those were actually the
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lengths of the driveway itself, not the
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actual not the width of the driveway
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because the width wasn't what was of uh
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potential concern. It was largely the
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length.
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understand that, but it was presented
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that three cars could park there. So, I
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just want to make sure we understand the
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width and the length.
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I do understand about the concern about
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the length. That's what we're talking
[14:55]
about the variance.
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Do you have any um any um measurements
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of the width of the driveway,
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Mr. One? Um just looking at the permit
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um it appears that the driveway is
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approximately 7.2 m in width. Um that's
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again approximate because we didn't go
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out and measure um
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>> the side of the driveway to the other
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side of the driveway. Um but a vehicle
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parking space is required to be 2.7 m in
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width uh as per the zoning bylaw
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>> each one. So three times 2.7 m Somebody
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got to figure that out quickly. It
[15:41]
doesn't sound like it fits. [laughter]
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8.1.
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Um, thank you. Is there anyone else who
[15:52]
has a question or a concern?
[15:56]
No, I'm sorry that the this is just
[15:58]
council I'm talking to. Um, councelor
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Bennett, would you like to
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>> uh Thank you. Yeah. Where I'm a little
[16:05]
bit confused is there's three people
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three suites and three cars that are
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parked there now. And basically they all
[16:14]
fit the driveway and it seems like most
[16:17]
of all the driveways are the same.
[16:20]
They're all not up to code. They're not
[16:22]
long enough according to this. So if if
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there is a fourth car and that car is
[16:28]
parked up in front of the people's in
[16:30]
front of them all the time, I could see
[16:32]
people have been upset. But if these
[16:34]
three cars have been parked there and
[16:35]
they're not in people's road when the
[16:37]
letters I'm reading from here sounds
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more like there's a fourth car that's
[16:41]
parked on somebody's drive in somebody's
[16:43]
lawn that's that's parked out on the
[16:46]
street but you're saying it's not.
[16:48]
There's three cars parked in the
[16:50]
driveway. So I'm not sure what exactly
[16:53]
that other car is that fourth car is
[16:56]
that in case another suite comes.
[17:01]
Don't I don't think there was there's
[17:03]
not the two suites. Apparently, there is
[17:07]
the person who lives with the owner has
[17:10]
a ba a basement suite, a basement room.
[17:12]
That's what it sounded like. Who perhaps
[17:15]
has a car and the owner has a car and
[17:18]
the renter has a car. So, that's three.
[17:20]
Yeah. So, I wouldn't probably need four,
[17:22]
right?
[17:24]
>> Anybody else? Go ahead. Councelor
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Potter.
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>> Thank you. Three to Mong. um in a single
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um
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in the way this property was originally
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built, what would have been the distance
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required for the driveway without um any
[17:41]
requirement for um the secondary suite
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or a proposed secondary suite?
[17:50]
» Sorry, was the question uh what was the
[17:52]
required length at the time that it was
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developed?
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>> Length for the depth. Yes. Uh provided
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there was no secondary suite or proposal
[17:59]
for secondary suite.
[18:01]
>> So the development would have been
[18:03]
completed prior to the current zoning
[18:06]
bylaw being in existence. I believe uh
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zoning bylaw 1085
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would have been in place at the time in
[18:12]
which the development um occurred. Um so
[18:15]
with that in mind, there would have been
[18:16]
a reduced parking uh dimension
[18:21]
that would have been applied. Um,
[18:25]
off the top of my head, I'm not sure.
[18:27]
I'm just pulling it up right now.
[18:35]
So, under zoning bylaw 1085, the
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required stall depth would have been 5.8
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m.
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» Okay, thank you. Um but may just
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um as I'm trying to sort through this I
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think I do share the concern of the um
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the owner um that you know they uh
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appear to have purchased the property
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which they were miss um
[19:08]
that they were led to believe by the
[19:10]
selling realtor that they were
[19:12]
purchasing a property with the legal
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suite which in fact it is not. I am re
[19:17]
recognizing that that was done um
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originally when they went to proceed to
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um require a building permit uh for the
[19:24]
purpose of a short-term rental and now
[19:26]
seeking um this parking amendment for a
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um legal secondary suite that would
[19:32]
obviously have to be meet the code. I do
[19:35]
share that frustration with them if that
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is the case. Um I do share the concern
[19:38]
of the neighbors that you know um their
[19:41]
conver you know their comments and of
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course we can't you know without
[19:44]
physically seeing whether or not what
[19:46]
you know what actually uh fills the
[19:48]
basement of that property um based on
[19:51]
the diagrams um that have been submitted
[19:53]
that's all we have to work with. Um so I
[19:56]
do share both those concerns. However, I
[19:58]
do share the concern also that um you
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know the development in existence in
[20:03]
Chara um you know there is various
[20:06]
lengths and depths of the depths of the
[20:09]
parking that's available. Um I did tour
[20:11]
that area last week take a look and see
[20:13]
especially at the proposed property um
[20:17]
that there is concern I think of
[20:18]
vehicles on the overhang as they you
[20:20]
know some definitely could accommodate
[20:22]
that. uh we don't have any knowledge of
[20:24]
any legal or uh secondary suites that we
[20:27]
can verify in that neighborhood and that
[20:28]
is you know obviously another concern
[20:30]
because my my concern moving forward is
[20:34]
how many more situations are we going to
[20:36]
have with this and just the rest of
[20:38]
council I think we got to be a little
[20:39]
cautious as to that consideration moving
[20:41]
forward as to what route we do go down.
[20:47]
» Thank you. Um, so the the lengths
[20:52]
according to the the report range from
[20:54]
4.36 m to 4.53 m. So regardless of which
[20:59]
version of the bylaw, it would not have
[21:01]
been long enough either. So my
[21:05]
frustration is how is this development?
[21:08]
How did it pass all those checks when
[21:12]
like we knew that the driveway wasn't
[21:15]
long enough period?
[21:17]
So
[21:19]
the an error was made somewhere
[21:22]
and I think it's just fair for us to
[21:25]
grant a variance that allows that error
[21:28]
to be somewhat rectified
[21:30]
because if if we're going to, you know,
[21:33]
put the hammer down according to the
[21:35]
bylaw by dimensions, then technically I
[21:39]
guess that development should never have
[21:40]
passed because the driveway was not long
[21:42]
enough period.
[21:45]
So I guess it's what is council's wish
[21:48]
here
[21:51]
>> and I mean it's unfortunate that the
[21:53]
owner has purchased the house house with
[21:55]
the understanding that it was a an
[21:58]
aillegal suite in the basement and in
[22:00]
fact it was not and that is a problem
[22:03]
that I uh maybe it's not her problem but
[22:07]
it definitely is a problem of people who
[22:09]
are selling and filling out the
[22:12]
paperwork for their properties when
[22:14]
things have not been done properly. And
[22:16]
I'm sure that that um I'm hoping that
[22:19]
doesn't happen often or at all, but it
[22:22]
seems to have in this place. Um I I'm
[22:26]
not sure what you would like to do. So,
[22:28]
we have the option of the of uh the
[22:33]
recommended motion on here. Um or um if
[22:38]
that is not appropriate, then do we have
[22:40]
a motion? Somebody like to make put a
[22:42]
motion on the floor.
[22:45]
[clears throat]
[22:47]
Go ahead.
[22:50]
Um, I would like to move uh option
[22:56]
one
[22:58]
that uh the variance be approved but
[23:01]
subject to final inspection to ensure
[23:04]
that there's only one
[23:07]
um [clears throat] suite
[23:09]
in the property.
[23:14]
Thank you.
[23:16]
Have you got that? Um, Mrs. Coulson
[23:20]
or or
[23:22]
Mrs. Robinson. Did you get that? Okay,
[23:25]
thank you. Is there a seconder for that?
[23:29]
[clears throat]
[23:32]
Okay, that was not seconded. Is there a
[23:36]
another uh recommendation? Please
[23:40]
move option two.
[23:43]
>> I got to support our planner here.
[23:48]
Option two is the recommended motion by
[23:50]
the planner.
[23:52]
Thank you. Is there a seconder for that
[23:54]
one?
[23:57]
Thank you. It's been seconded.
[24:00]
Councelor Puerto Rica. Is there any
[24:03]
other comments on this? Then I will call
[24:07]
the question. Um,
[24:10]
all in favor of the recommended motion
[24:16]
against.
[24:18]
Thank you. That was a 3 to2 vote. It
[24:20]
carries.
[24:22]
Um, thank you very much. Thank you, Miss
[24:25]
McCay, for coming in. Um, we appreciate
[24:28]
it. It was a very difficult issue to
[24:30]
deal with.
[24:32]
All right, we will move on to
[24:35]
development variance permit. Um DVP
[24:40]
265460197th
[24:44]
Street.
[24:46]
Um Miss Dwong, do you have this one?
[24:50]
>> Yes. And I do have a presentation for
[24:52]
this one which I will
[24:52]
>> Thank you.
[24:53]
>> try my best to share.
[24:59]
[clears throat]
[25:01]
>> All right. Are you seeing the
[25:02]
presentation on the screen?
[25:04]
>> Yes, we are. Thank you.
[25:06]
>> Perfect. So, I'll go ahead and get
[25:07]
started. Um, so yes, this is uh this
[25:10]
item relates to file number DVP 2605.
[25:14]
Uh, this relates to a property located
[25:16]
at 460197th
[25:18]
Street. So, this is actually the
[25:20]
development that's known as Mojave
[25:22]
Estates. Uh, the OCP designation that
[25:24]
applies to this property is medium
[25:26]
density residential and the zoning that
[25:27]
applies is medium density residential
[25:29]
one sight specific. The property is
[25:32]
approximately 1.41 hectares in size. Um,
[25:35]
and this application actually speaks to
[25:39]
phases 2, three, and four specifically
[25:41]
of the Mojave State Estates development.
[25:44]
Phase one is actually already complete
[25:46]
and is technically a separate parcel
[25:48]
currently. Um, and it includes 12 town
[25:51]
houses.
[25:54]
So, um, I'll just give a bit of a
[25:57]
background since there's been quite a
[25:58]
bit of permit history as council may
[26:00]
recall with respect to this particular
[26:01]
property. So, this starts back in 2022
[26:04]
when a multif family residential
[26:06]
development permit uh number 21-12 was
[26:09]
issued for a multif family residential
[26:12]
development at the property. Then in
[26:14]
2024, building permits were issued uh
[26:16]
for three 4unit townhouse buildings as
[26:20]
well as uh civil works and two retaining
[26:22]
walls at the property. Now, in January
[26:25]
2026, a new medium d or multif family
[26:29]
residential development permit
[26:30]
application was received in order to
[26:32]
revise the site layout and landscaping
[26:34]
plans uh due to changes that were
[26:36]
required uh to be made by the developer
[26:38]
to the internal access roadway.
[26:41]
Following that, in February 2026, a
[26:43]
phase strata develop a plan declaration
[26:46]
for a form P was approved by the
[26:48]
approving officer in order to allow the
[26:50]
development to be completed over four
[26:52]
phases, which kind of explains why the
[26:54]
completed phase is its own parcel
[26:56]
currently. Um once the phases start to
[26:59]
get completed, they'll become
[27:00]
amalgamated um into the last phase until
[27:04]
it's just one property at the end
[27:06]
essentially. Uh so most recently in
[27:09]
March 2026, uh two building permit
[27:11]
applications were received by the town,
[27:13]
each of which were proposing to
[27:15]
construct a 4unit townhouse building, so
[27:17]
eight units in total.
[27:20]
So as council may recall, uh this
[27:22]
property and development have been
[27:23]
before council actually twice since
[27:25]
2024. Specifically, council had adopted
[27:28]
zoning amendment bylaw number 1395.02 2
[27:31]
in 2024 and zoning amendment bylaw
[27:33]
number 1395.12
[27:35]
just last month. Uh both of these
[27:37]
collectively provided sight specific
[27:39]
provisions for the property in order to
[27:40]
allow for secondary suites within duplex
[27:42]
or townhouse dwelling units and to allow
[27:45]
for the construction of one duplex at
[27:47]
the property. These amendments and the
[27:49]
permitting background uh that was just
[27:51]
detailed in the last slide um kind of
[27:53]
just highlight the extensive work that's
[27:55]
been done in the planning and permitting
[27:57]
of this particular development.
[28:02]
So as I mentioned this development is to
[28:04]
be completed in a phased manner with
[28:06]
four phases total. Um at this time it is
[28:09]
understood that the development of the
[28:10]
property is well underway uh with the
[28:13]
access road and servicing which was
[28:15]
within phase one uh being completed as
[28:18]
well as those 12 townhouse units that I
[28:20]
mentioned uh within phase one being
[28:21]
complete. Uh phase 2 is currently in
[28:25]
progress and its completion will see
[28:27]
that eight townhouse units be
[28:28]
constructed and the completion of this
[28:30]
phase is contingent on the subject
[28:32]
variance request uh in order to proceed
[28:34]
as currently proposed.
[28:38]
So specifically the townhouse units
[28:40]
within phase 2 comprise uh garages which
[28:43]
in undertaking a zoning compliance
[28:45]
assessment can only accommodate one
[28:47]
parking space to the minimum dimensions
[28:49]
that are set out in the zoning bylaw.
[28:51]
Now in total there um it is proposed
[28:54]
that eight parking spaces be provided
[28:56]
for the eight dwelling units. So one for
[28:58]
each dwelling unit. While no building
[29:01]
permits have yet been received for the
[29:02]
dwelling units within phases three and
[29:04]
four, it is understood that they would
[29:06]
each contain at least a single car
[29:08]
garage. And as it relates to zoning
[29:10]
bylaw compliance, um it is noted that
[29:13]
zoning bylaw number 1395 uh 2024 uh
[29:17]
requires the provision of 1.5 off
[29:19]
streetet vehicle parking spaces per
[29:21]
dwelling unit specifically for town
[29:23]
houses. So this would equate to actually
[29:26]
a total of 12 parking spaces being
[29:28]
required for the eight townhouse units
[29:30]
in phase 2 and 42 parking spaces being
[29:34]
required for the 28 townhouse units in
[29:36]
phases three and four. Accordingly,
[29:40]
the applicant has requested to reduce
[29:42]
the off- streetet parking requirements
[29:44]
from 1.5 spaces per townhouse dwelling
[29:47]
unit to one. And it should be noted um
[29:49]
that the request encompasses the
[29:51]
remainder of the townhouse uh units that
[29:54]
are proposed within the overarching
[29:55]
development. So, this actually includes
[29:57]
36 townhouse units uh in total within
[30:00]
phases 2, three, and four. Phase one, as
[30:03]
I mentioned, is already built out and is
[30:04]
not included in this request.
[30:08]
So with respect to off- streetet vehicle
[30:11]
parking, it is required to be provided
[30:13]
as a means of ensuring that there is
[30:14]
adequate on-site parking to support the
[30:16]
planned use of a property um and that
[30:19]
public spaces such as street parking are
[30:22]
not supporting private uses. And this
[30:24]
ultimately acts then to mitigate
[30:25]
conflicts that might result from
[30:27]
inadequate site parking provided. Now
[30:30]
with this in mind again we expect that
[30:32]
property owners provide the parking
[30:33]
necessary for use on the property is
[30:35]
intended to be carried out on.
[30:38]
With respect to building stratas uh so
[30:40]
that includes apartments, duplexes and
[30:42]
town houses uh that typically provide
[30:45]
these typically provide parking within
[30:47]
either common property. So that's shared
[30:49]
between property owners or limited
[30:51]
common property which is designated to
[30:53]
specific property owners. So some
[30:55]
examples that we typically see with
[30:56]
respect to parking provided for building
[30:58]
stratas um these include parkades,
[31:01]
surface level parking areas or where you
[31:04]
might have a duplex or townhouse that
[31:06]
has a garage or a driveway um parking
[31:08]
can be provided within those garages or
[31:10]
driveways as limited common property.
[31:15]
It is important to note that of course
[31:17]
while the requirements surrounding the
[31:19]
provision of off- streetet parking serve
[31:20]
an important function when it comes to
[31:22]
conflict prevention and ensuring that
[31:24]
properties are actually able to
[31:25]
accommodate the uses that they're
[31:26]
intended to um support. The imposition
[31:29]
of overly ownorous parking requirements
[31:32]
can hinder development by essentially
[31:33]
limiting the overall site design and
[31:35]
layout as well as buildable area on a
[31:38]
property. Um, so this sentiment was
[31:41]
highlighted in the provincial policy
[31:42]
manual and site standards document which
[31:44]
local governments were required to
[31:46]
consider in the adoption of zoning
[31:48]
bylaws that relate to the delivery of
[31:49]
small-scale multi-unit housing. Uh,
[31:52]
specifically, the province has indicated
[31:54]
that on-site parking requirements uh can
[31:56]
often have the greatest influence on the
[31:58]
viability of small-scale multi-unit
[32:00]
housing forms, especially when you're
[32:01]
considering the small lot sizes that are
[32:03]
found in urban and suburban areas. With
[32:06]
that in mind, the province uh has
[32:08]
encouraged local governments to minimize
[32:10]
parking, particularly in areas where uh
[32:13]
transit options are available. And I do
[32:16]
want to point out that while this
[32:17]
property was not within a restricted
[32:18]
zone at the time in which small scale
[32:20]
multi-unit housing requirements were
[32:21]
included in the local government act, um
[32:23]
this general principle seemed to be
[32:25]
relevant to multif family residential
[32:27]
developments as well.
[32:31]
So in this particular case, it is
[32:32]
understood that the property is located
[32:34]
approximately 250 meters from a bus stop
[32:37]
uh for line 41. Um and this is located
[32:40]
along 89th Street between 97th Street
[32:43]
and Primrose Lane. Uh so that's seen to
[32:45]
provide an alternate uh transportation
[32:47]
option for residents within that
[32:49]
development as it gets built out. As
[32:51]
such, we do see that this is this has
[32:53]
potential to mitigate or reduce
[32:55]
potential negative impacts of a parking
[32:57]
reduction at this particular property.
[33:01]
Additionally, um it is noted um that the
[33:04]
development of this property is greatly
[33:06]
limited. Um and that's largely because
[33:08]
of the previous requirements pertaining
[33:10]
to the way in which the road alignment
[33:12]
was to be designed and requirements for
[33:14]
servicing to be installed. Um, I've
[33:17]
previously mentioned this in our
[33:18]
discussion regarding amendment bylaw
[33:21]
number 1395.12 earlier this year, but as
[33:24]
part of the 2024 building permit
[33:26]
process, the de the developer had uh
[33:29]
previously entered into a servicing
[33:30]
agreement with the town, which had
[33:32]
required that they undertake
[33:34]
construction of the on and off-site
[33:35]
works in accordance with approved civil
[33:37]
drawings. So, the works that were
[33:39]
completed on site included individual
[33:41]
service connections that were based on
[33:42]
the location of the dwelling units as
[33:45]
they were proposed. And with that in
[33:46]
mind, any revisions to the site layout
[33:48]
and building envelopes would likely
[33:49]
require um a fairly lengthy
[33:52]
administrative uh and financially
[33:54]
burdensome processes. [clears throat]
[33:59]
And I did want to just highlight um kind
[34:01]
of just the sight specific context here.
[34:03]
Um, as you can see, I've circled uh the
[34:06]
location of those town houses as they're
[34:08]
to be constructed within phase two. Um,
[34:11]
they are located kind of right up
[34:13]
against the access road, which is seen
[34:17]
to limit how uh their building envelopes
[34:19]
can be altered due to the um higher
[34:22]
elevation of the road and the wall um
[34:26]
that would be right behind these
[34:27]
properties.
[34:31]
So on the other hand, we do recognize
[34:33]
that um council had considered parking
[34:36]
reductions already um during the time in
[34:38]
which the zoning bylaw update project
[34:40]
had taken place. And at that time, off-
[34:42]
streetet parking requirements that were
[34:44]
applicable to townhouse units had been
[34:46]
reduced from 1.75 spaces per townhouse
[34:49]
dwelling unit to 1.5
[34:51]
uh spaces per dwelling unit.
[34:53]
Additionally, and as we've highlighted
[34:55]
previously, the parking requirements
[34:56]
that were adopted in uh the current
[34:58]
version of the zoning bylaw generally
[34:59]
reflect uh the rural environment that
[35:02]
the town is located within. Uh
[35:04]
specifically, there is generally a
[35:05]
greater reliance on private vehicles to
[35:07]
get around and there's a tendency to use
[35:09]
larger vehicles as well.
[35:13]
That said, we do also note that the
[35:15]
zoning bylaw requires 1.5 parking spaces
[35:18]
per apartments and uh townhouse dwelling
[35:21]
units, but actually only requires one
[35:22]
parking space per single detached
[35:24]
dwelling and duplex dwelling unit. Uh
[35:27]
and in fact, the proposed duplex units
[35:30]
within phase three of this same
[35:31]
development would actually only require
[35:33]
one parking space to be provided per
[35:34]
unit, which effectively sets a different
[35:36]
parking standard despite being within
[35:38]
the same overarching development, which
[35:40]
is largely similar in form. Um now,
[35:44]
while greater parking requirements would
[35:45]
generally accommodate visitor parking,
[35:47]
um and the variation in the number of
[35:49]
cars per dwelling, it is noted that the
[35:51]
development does propose uh five visitor
[35:54]
stalls within phase one of the
[35:55]
development.
[35:58]
And lastly, it should be noted that in
[36:00]
response to the referral of this
[36:02]
application on relevant internal
[36:03]
departments, um the fire department had
[36:05]
expressed concerns with respect to the
[36:07]
proposed development uh specifically
[36:09]
that uh there was the potential for
[36:12]
vehicles to encroach into the internal
[36:14]
roadway given the length of the
[36:16]
individual driveways uh being fairly
[36:18]
short and the potential impact then on
[36:20]
congestion and emergency access. Um, but
[36:23]
I do want to highlight that this
[36:24]
variance request does not include a
[36:26]
variance uh for in tandem parking and
[36:30]
therefore the issuance of this variance
[36:31]
as proposed would not expressly permit
[36:33]
vehicles to park in tandem on uh these
[36:36]
individual lots. So with this in mind uh
[36:39]
we are requesting council's direction
[36:41]
with respect to this uh particular DVP
[36:43]
application. Uh for the reasons
[36:45]
previously listed, we are recommending
[36:47]
approval. Um, but council does always
[36:50]
have the option to deny the application
[36:52]
as well. Thank you.
[36:55]
>> U, thank you very much, Miss Dwong. This
[36:58]
is confusing because we have had um this particular um um application come
[37:05]
back several times for variances. Um I
[37:09]
know that it says in your report that
[37:11]
there are five visitor stalls for phase
[37:15]
one. Does that mean that there will be
[37:18]
um visitor stalls as well, the same
[37:21]
number for phases 2, three, and four?
[37:26]
Uh at this time, the developer hasn't
[37:28]
indicated whether there would be
[37:29]
additional visitor parking spaces within
[37:32]
the uh future phases of this
[37:33]
development.
[37:36]
>> That would be interesting to know. And
[37:39]
my concern is cuz I drive by this road
[37:41]
all the time on my way down to my house,
[37:44]
there is one road in and it's not really
[37:50]
visible from the road from the highway.
[37:52]
So you sort of you have to go in and
[37:55]
then go down as shown in the in in the
[37:58]
drawing. Um and obviously just one road
[38:03]
back out um for vehicles. I'm wondering
[38:08]
on the property, are there any other
[38:11]
exits to either walk off of the property
[38:17]
um or do you have to go come back up the
[38:20]
road to the highway in order to walk
[38:22]
along and go down to the to the bus
[38:25]
stop, which is not a 20 minute every 20
[38:29]
minute bus stop. It um it goes a couple
[38:32]
of times a day, I think, and it sort of
[38:34]
depends. Um, so it's not something that
[38:37]
you could count on to get back and forth
[38:40]
um to school or work or or or anything,
[38:44]
I don't think. And my other concern is
[38:47]
that if these all of these um um condos
[38:51]
down here have an accessory suite in the
[38:54]
basement then, which we allowed back
[38:57]
then, then there's a need for obviously
[39:00]
more vehicle parking. I assume one in
[39:04]
the garage and one on the on the the
[39:06]
apron in front. Is that correct? Do you
[39:09]
So, can you answer that question? Is
[39:10]
there any exit off of the property other
[39:14]
than going up the road to the highway?
[39:18]
>> Uh, for that first question, I would
[39:19]
have to refer back to the development
[39:21]
permit plans um to see if there is any
[39:23]
pedestrian access points and pathways.
[39:26]
Um, so I'm not sure off the top of my
[39:28]
head for that one. Uh but with respect
[39:30]
to the secondary suite question, even
[39:32]
though it is permitted by zoning, um
[39:34]
they would still have to prove out the
[39:36]
provision of adequate parking for those
[39:38]
to be actually permitted through the
[39:40]
building permit process. So if there's
[39:42]
not enough space on their individual
[39:44]
like limited common property areas to
[39:46]
provide for a secondary suite parking,
[39:48]
they cannot get a secondary suite.
[39:50]
>> Okay.
[39:51]
>> Thank you. Anybody else? Go ahead.
[39:53]
Councelor Kanger,
[39:54]
>> the road going in and out, is that would
[39:56]
that become a public road in the future
[39:58]
or is that kind of private?
[40:02]
>> That would be a private uh road.
[40:04]
>> So, if there's cars parked in front of
[40:06]
houses and the fire department can't get
[40:09]
by, what do you suppose would happen?
[40:17]
» I'm not sure if I can answer that
[40:18]
question in its entirety. Generally,
[40:20]
when it comes to things like shared
[40:23]
common property strata roads, the
[40:25]
stratas themselves would be responsible
[40:27]
for ensuring um that they're being used
[40:30]
appropriately.
[40:36]
» Who's next?
[40:38]
>> Councelor Puerto Rica.
[40:39]
>> Thank you, Bishop. Um Mr. Wong. Um last
[40:42]
time, um the developer came to council
[40:45]
with regards to secondary suites. um
[40:48]
they were, if I could be wrong here, but
[40:50]
I believe they had said that they had
[40:52]
four off streetet sites per property or
[40:54]
per unit and as we're seeing that
[40:57]
clearly is not the case anymore. Um but
[40:59]
obviously the justified decision for
[41:01]
allowing secondary suites in there. Um
[41:05]
so is there that much of a significant
[41:06]
change over the course? My understanding
[41:08]
is right through from phase one to the
[41:09]
end of phases that they were able to
[41:12]
support for offstream sites per unit.
[41:18]
I'm unclear as to how much the parking
[41:21]
arrangements would have uh changed over
[41:24]
the course of the years. I understand
[41:26]
that phase one would have included
[41:27]
secondary suites. This current phase
[41:29]
does not actually include any secondary
[41:30]
suites within the townhouse units. So
[41:32]
those wouldn't have to be accommodated
[41:33]
in the same way. Um so
[41:38]
and phase three and four have not been
[41:40]
applied for yet. So that would have to
[41:43]
be considered. Um, so it's only in phase
[41:46]
one that they've asked for a secondary
[41:48]
suite. Okay, fair enough. I thank Thank
[41:51]
you. Um, it's still kind of confusing.
[41:54]
Anybody else want to go ahead, counselor
[41:56]
Bennett?
[41:57]
>> I just like to move option number one.
[42:02]
» Is there a seconder for that one?
[42:08]
» You have one more qu.
[42:10]
>> Is there a seconder? You'll second it.
[42:12]
Okay, then you have a question.
[42:17]
» Um, thank you again for you, Mr. Wong.
[42:20]
Just clarification. Um, and I'm just
[42:22]
trying to find the drawing here and it
[42:23]
probably is different.
[42:25]
Um, in one of the renderings here where
[42:28]
it shows the depth of the stalls at
[42:32]
just find that page here
[42:36]
be different for Shannon.
[42:39]
>> The different phases are different.
[42:41]
drawing view and
[42:45]
where it says driveway parking and it
[42:47]
shows a depth of 2.7 m and a width of
[42:50]
5.7. Is that correct?
[42:55]
» And you're referring to the proposed off
[42:57]
street parking plan, correct?
[42:59]
>> Uh this is Yeah. So it's referencing DV
[43:02]
606 of of the actual development permit.
[43:07]
>> Yes. So those are the measurements that
[43:08]
the developer would have provided. But I
[43:10]
do want to be clear that this
[43:13]
application does not request the
[43:15]
allowance for in tandem parking. So you
[43:19]
it wouldn't actually be able to provide
[43:21]
the in tandem parking within that
[43:23]
driveway.
[43:26]
>> Okay.
[43:31]
And go ahead, councelor Chong. And
[43:34]
then with some rough calculations with
[43:36]
page six of six, if you were to extend
[43:38]
the 2.7 to the edge of lane, it would be
[43:41]
approximately only 5 m
[43:44]
roughly if I'm assuming everything is to
[43:46]
scale. Um, which is far below our
[43:51]
requirements regardless.
[43:53]
But uh it seems as council may be in a
[43:57]
bit of a pickle with this variance
[44:00]
seeing as how the previous variance was
[44:02]
denied and they're along the same
[44:04]
spirit.
[44:06]
>> I see it as a different
[44:08]
>> Oh, it's it's
[44:09]
>> a different issue, but never mind. Go
[44:11]
ahead.
[44:11]
>> Zoned RS1, which does allow for a
[44:14]
secondary suite if parking requirements
[44:17]
and all the other requirements um are
[44:19]
fulfilled as well. Um,
[44:22]
this one is is a challenge mainly
[44:25]
because to I guess triple check, there
[44:29]
are no known stipulations for additional
[44:33]
visitor parking stalls uh in the current
[44:37]
plans.
[44:38]
Mong,
[44:41]
>> that's correct. outside of phase one
[44:43]
where they're providing visitor parking.
[44:45]
Um it has not been um we've not been
[44:50]
informed whether there was going to be
[44:51]
visitor parking in the uh remaining
[44:53]
phases,
[44:56]
» but we're working on phase two right
[44:59]
now. Am I correct? So they've obviously
[45:01]
got the okay to do that and there has
[45:04]
been nothing said about visitor parking
[45:06]
in phase two when as when the
[45:08]
development permit was given.
[45:12]
Correct.
[45:17]
» Tricky, isn't it?
[45:22]
[sighs]
[45:24]
Reduce off streetet parking requirements
[45:26]
for townhouse units. So, it's I know
[45:30]
there is and it's been seconded. So,
[45:33]
it's to reduce off-street vehicle
[45:35]
parking requirements for townhouse
[45:38]
units.
[45:39]
Does that mean all of them?
[45:44]
So, we've got some in there right now
[45:46]
and the second phase is being worked on,
[45:48]
but three and four are not.
[45:52]
[sighs]
[45:54]
I don't know.
[45:57]
All right. Are we We don't seem to have
[46:00]
any other questions. So, I'm going to um
[46:04]
to call the question, which is um the
[46:07]
recommended motion that the reduce the
[46:10]
off- streetet vehicle parking limits be
[46:13]
approved. All in favor?
[46:21]
Okay, that has not been approved. Um
[46:24]
that was a 3 to2 vote again and um so my
[46:28]
assumption is that the uh the owner of
[46:31]
the property will need to come back and
[46:33]
have a look at that again. Is that
[46:35]
correct, Miss Dwang?
[46:39]
» I may look to Miss Coulson on this item
[46:44]
in terms of process.
[46:49]
» Yeah, I'm I'm sorry. I'm not prepared
[46:51]
for that question. And the one thing I
[46:53]
will say is that um this property has
[46:56]
been uh disadvantaged in its options
[46:59]
going forward because of that
[47:00]
requirement that was u made at the
[47:02]
outset to pre-ervice all the lots. So
[47:05]
the underground utility is all in place.
[47:08]
Making changes at this point is very
[47:10]
difficult for the developer.
[47:14]
>> Um I yes I read that I get that as well.
[47:17]
I think that there's sounds to me like
[47:20]
there's a couple of other concerns in
[47:22]
here as well off streetet parking which
[47:24]
has not been addressed for something and
[47:27]
so I'd hate to see us say well let's
[47:29]
bring it down um and then we discover
[47:33]
that um there is no off- streetet
[47:34]
parking and there's one road in and out
[47:37]
so I think it's not an easy thing to um
[47:40]
to adopt
[47:42]
all right thank you we have did you have
[47:46]
a question go ahead
[47:47]
So, procedurally, if option one has
[47:51]
if that motion has been struck down, um
[47:55]
does a motion need to be voted on or or
[47:58]
moved in order to move forward with this
[48:01]
case or what happens now?
[48:04]
>> If the developer can bring an alternate
[48:06]
plan forward for council's
[48:08]
consideration, uh we don't need to do
[48:10]
anything further with this.
[48:11]
>> Thank you.
[48:14]
>> Okay. Thank you. We will now move on to
[48:18]
the um Miss Mrs. Keith
[48:21]
the proposed fire department budget.
[48:33]
I have a short presentation for the
[48:36]
proposed budget um for you. Uh so
[48:39]
annually we bring forward the budget
[48:41]
earlier on in the year uh given that
[48:43]
it's um a shared service between
[48:45]
ourselves uh the Indian band and the
[48:48]
rural fire protection district. Just a
[48:51]
little background here um the 2027 to
[48:53]
2031 fire department forecast is built
[48:56]
from the 2026 base budget and applies
[49:00]
category specific inflation assumptions
[49:02]
only. These inflation factors are
[49:05]
applied to the operating revenues and
[49:06]
expenses. The forecast also incorporates
[49:09]
planning for capital projects, reserve
[49:11]
transfers, grant funding, and borrowing
[49:13]
which are identified in the capital
[49:15]
plan.
[49:18]
Revisiting the um the comment made
[49:20]
regarding the shared service. There we
[49:23]
go. Um the fire department provides fire
[49:26]
protection to the town of Aoyus, the
[49:28]
Asus Indian Band and the ASOS fire um
[49:32]
rural fire protection district. Under
[49:34]
the current fire protection agreements,
[49:35]
cost sharing is based on the 2026
[49:37]
assessment values as follows.
[49:40]
We have the town of Aoyus at 59.4%.
[49:44]
The ASOS Indian man sits at 19.3 and the
[49:47]
Assaurus rural fire protection district
[49:49]
at 21.3.
[49:55]
The slide here just talks basically
[49:56]
about the revenue and the funding
[49:58]
forecasts. uh compares throughout 2026
[50:01]
base throughout 2031. Uh for 2027, we
[50:05]
show total revenues at 2.3 million,
[50:08]
which is up 251,000 or 11% compound with
[50:11]
the 2026 base budget. Please keep in
[50:15]
mind this isn't an 11.8% increase. That
[50:18]
includes the capital funding which will
[50:20]
be a transfer from reserves. And you can
[50:22]
see that's up significantly from last
[50:24]
year. Everything else is based purely on
[50:27]
inflation.
[50:30]
The expense forecast is listed here and
[50:32]
it shows a comparison between the 2026
[50:35]
base all the way through to 2031 and
[50:37]
highlighting the larger expense items
[50:40]
which we have our wages and benefits,
[50:42]
our debt charges, and the reserve
[50:44]
contribution. Again, the reserve
[50:46]
contribution just shows what would be
[50:47]
brought out of our reserves to help fund
[50:49]
the capital plan.
[50:54]
into the capital plan timeline. We've
[50:55]
identified uh projects as follows. We
[50:58]
show in 2027 the marine rescue craft
[51:01]
aerial apparatus as well as a command
[51:03]
truck. Uh 2028 we have paving
[51:07]
turnarounds the radio and replacement uh
[51:11]
sorry radio replacement. My good have my
[51:13]
glasses on. It's a little narrow [gasps]
[51:15]
here. Uh 2029 we have fire engine
[51:18]
replacement which is the uh the larger
[51:20]
expenditure we have over the 5-year plan
[51:22]
projection. um 20 the next year we have
[51:25]
2030. We have the uh car 193 rescue uh
[51:29]
replacement as well with nothing planned
[51:32]
at this point for 2031.
[51:37]
Reserve forecast shows what we uh
[51:39]
proposed to contribute to the reserves
[51:41]
and again showing what we're taking out
[51:43]
of reserves to help uh fund those
[51:45]
projects. Um you can see the big dip
[51:47]
there in 2029 which is uh with regards
[51:50]
to the larger fire truck replacement.
[51:58]
Total revenues and expenses both
[51:59]
increased by approximately 251. Again as
[52:02]
in the previous slide uh this 11.8% is
[52:05]
not an actual 11.8% increase but just
[52:08]
showing how we are going to fund uh
[52:11]
capital through our reserves.
[52:14]
Our
[52:17]
budget drivers and considerations are same as every every year. Um wages
[52:22]
and benefits our primary operating
[52:25]
driver for um our annual costs 3.5%. We
[52:30]
have debt charges which remain uh fixed
[52:33]
from year to year from MFA. Uh we have
[52:36]
our reserve contribution which has
[52:38]
increases steadily to help fund our
[52:40]
capital and equipment replacements. Our
[52:42]
capital plan uh planning is based on um
[52:45]
what we can afford uh year after year
[52:47]
through our reserves and any type of
[52:49]
grants we can we can uh receive and in
[52:52]
final review inflation assumptions are
[52:55]
used uh cap capital estimates at this
[52:57]
point grants and reserve funding will be
[52:59]
reviewed before adoption. Adoption for
[53:02]
this budget would occur um as it when
[53:04]
it's amalgamated with our five-year plan
[53:06]
which will be brought forward at the end
[53:07]
of the year.
[53:11]
Uh before council, we have the option to
[53:13]
approve uh and proceed with the proposed
[53:16]
fire department five-year plan or
[53:18]
request change.
[53:22]
» Thank you.
[53:23]
very much. Um this is a
[53:25]
[clears throat] different way of having
[53:26]
it presented that one than we have. So
[53:28]
thank you. This um just it was
[53:30]
interesting to look through and and uh
[53:33]
and see the way that you've presented
[53:34]
it. I appreciate it. Um, is there
[53:38]
anybody who has any questions or
[53:41]
concerns of Mrs. Ke? Go ahead.
[53:45]
Uh, sounds like some pretty big numbers.
[53:48]
Just in layman's term about how much
[53:50]
would it cost the public in a tax
[53:52]
increase from 26 to 27.
[53:56]
>> Currently, we're not showing any type of
[53:58]
tax increase. We're just showing the
[53:59]
inflationary um just the inflation
[54:01]
projections for the next five years. And
[54:04]
that's how we would fund the capital
[54:05]
plan as well as the operating.
[54:08]
>> So it kind of shows 2.8. Have I read it
[54:10]
correct?
[54:10]
>> Correct.
[54:12]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[54:15]
>> Anybody else have any other questions,
[54:17]
concerns? Is there anybody who would
[54:20]
like to go ahead councelor Bennett
[54:23]
>> after after this is done and it's sent
[54:25]
to the So Indian Band as well as
[54:28]
regional district for approval. Right.
[54:32]
Normally what we do is for review we
[54:34]
would take it to um our rural friends
[54:36]
and we would have a small presentation
[54:37]
for them through the the fireh hall as
[54:39]
well as we present it to the sorry man
[54:42]
with the option for them to also join
[54:44]
and to hear the presentation.
[54:48]
» Councelor Chong,
[54:49]
>> thank you. Um so the fire engine
[54:51]
replacement um budget for 2029
[54:56]
it's uh 1.5 million. Is that today's
[54:58]
estimates or is that 2029 estimates for
[55:01]
costing?
[55:04]
>> Yeah. Um through the through the mayor
[55:06]
to councelor Chong those are estimates based on the current apparatus
[55:10]
that we have in our fleet. So the most
[55:12]
recent apparatus that we purchased uh as
[55:14]
well as inflation as estimated or given
[55:17]
to us as an estimate through uh
[55:20]
distributors and manufacturers through
[55:22]
sales folks. So that 1.5 million is a
[55:25]
very good uh I don't want to say guess
[55:28]
but it's a very good estimate at what we
[55:30]
will be looking at spending to replace
[55:32]
our most recent purchase.
[55:37]
And then just for for clarification,
[55:40]
when we do support uh BC Wildfire with
[55:44]
efforts in in wildfire mitigation, um
[55:48]
there is, for lack of a better term,
[55:51]
compensation. Um whereabouts does that
[55:54]
with that fit in in terms of the uh the
[55:57]
budget and the revenue?
[56:00]
>> We do show that and that's in the first
[56:02]
part under recoveries. So, you'll see
[56:04]
our third line on the more detailed
[56:07]
version of the five-year plan forecast.
[56:09]
There's other revenue, fire department
[56:11]
recoveries, and that's whenever we um
[56:15]
visit a scene if there's an event, as
[56:17]
well as any type of support we provide
[56:20]
for for wildfire would go into that
[56:21]
category.
[56:24]
You're welcome.
[56:26]
Okay. Is there somebody who would like
[56:28]
to make a motion here?
[56:34]
Everybody speak up at once here.
[56:36]
[laughter]
[56:37]
Go ahead.
[56:38]
>> I move option one
[56:41]
>> that we approve the proposed fire
[56:44]
department budget. Is are you seconding
[56:46]
that? Are there any other questions,
[56:49]
concerns? I will call a question. All in
[56:52]
favor?
[56:54]
Thank you very much, Mrs. Keith. That
[56:56]
passed.
[56:58]
All right. Next is Mr. Davis, who I'm
[57:03]
assuming is Oh, you're going to do it
[57:06]
for [laughter] Thanks, Sarah. Um, this
[57:09]
is the resort municipality initiative
[57:11]
amendment. Go ahead, please.
[57:13]
>> Yeah. So, I'm bringing forward this
[57:15]
report. Um, as you all know, um, as a
[57:19]
little bit of an executive summary,
[57:21]
we're bringing forward a change to the
[57:22]
2025 through 2027 resort development
[57:25]
strategy. uh we have a three-year
[57:27]
strategy in place and in that time we
[57:31]
had a uh a budget item there of for a
[57:34]
flag replacement which was for $10,000.
[57:37]
Um in further investigation uh in the
[57:39]
background we found that the town
[57:41]
received funding uh a funding request.
[57:44]
Oh, I'm sorry. Going back to the the
[57:46]
actual flag replacement. So it includes
[57:49]
this flag under further uh review. the
[57:51]
flag cost got to be um exorbitant with
[57:54]
that it wasn't our property and after
[57:56]
further review the actual post to the
[57:59]
flag was going to cost a lot more uh to
[58:01]
repair it to make to stabilize a large
[58:03]
flag. So this project hasn't really been
[58:06]
able to go forward just given it is cost
[58:08]
prohibitive. In the meantime, we did
[58:10]
receive a funding request for $8,000 for
[58:13]
fire and ice festival organization from
[58:15]
organizers to help offset the cost of an
[58:17]
outdoor concert to Gyro Park to be held
[58:20]
on the Friday evening of November 27th,
[58:22]
28th, and 29th. The event organizing
[58:26]
committee includes representatives from
[58:27]
Spirit Ridge, Watermark Resort, Asoyas
[58:30]
Art Council, the town of Aoyas, the
[58:31]
Asoyus Museum, and the Asoyas Farmer
[58:33]
Market, and Music in the Park. and the
[58:36]
Asus Arts Council will serve as the
[58:38]
league organizer for the funding
[58:39]
application.
[58:41]
So, we are just requesting we are able
[58:43]
to move that $10,000 funding for the
[58:45]
flag replacement to support this
[58:48]
festival uh through our current
[58:50]
development strategy and uh we have
[58:52]
already checked in with the RMI
[58:54]
community and uh they have no problem
[58:56]
with us changing changing gears on this
[58:58]
one project.
[59:00]
>> Thank you very much. Thank you for
[59:02]
looking into that. Um, anybody have any
[59:06]
questions? Any concerns?
[59:10]
» And it's been seconded by councelor
[59:12]
Chong. All in favor?
[59:15]
Thank you very much.
[59:18]
Okay. Next is the uh Mrs. Coulson, the
[59:22]
Asuous airport management agreement
[59:24]
term.
[59:25]
>> Thank you, your worship. Uh this is this
[59:27]
is the final step in establishing an
[59:29]
agreement between the town and the
[59:31]
Isoyas airport development society or
[59:33]
ODS uh to manage airport operations. Uh
[59:37]
council heard uh from the former CEO in
[59:40]
October 2025 when council approved
[59:42]
entering into a one-year agreement for
[59:44]
the management of the airport with ODS.
[59:46]
U the execution of the uh agreement was
[59:49]
postponed while ODS uh secured some
[59:52]
documents that were required for the
[59:54]
agreement. Um, so, uh, now that we're at
[59:57]
the point a year later that we are
[1:00:00]
wishing to execute the agreement, ODS is
[1:00:02]
asking if they can have a 2-year rather
[1:00:04]
than a one-year term. This will help
[1:00:06]
them establish the services uh, more
[1:00:09]
securely and uh, importantly, it g it
[1:00:13]
places them well when they apply for a
[1:00:14]
grant. They have a term long enough to
[1:00:17]
be able to apply for the grant,
[1:00:18]
hopefully get the grant, and complete
[1:00:20]
the work that's grant funded. So, it is
[1:00:23]
recommended that we approve um the
[1:00:26]
two-year term for the agreement.
[1:00:29]
>> Can I just ask a question? So, um it
[1:00:32]
would be once we okay this or whatever
[1:00:35]
we Okay, is this starting date is that
[1:00:38]
date and it goes for two week two years
[1:00:40]
after that. Thank you. Just wanted to
[1:00:42]
check. Go ahead.
[1:00:44]
>> I'm just going to move option one.
[1:00:47]
>> Is there a seconder? Councelor King.
[1:00:51]
Okay. Go ahead.
[1:00:52]
>> Does it go back to 25 26 27 or we go 26
[1:00:56]
27 28?
[1:00:58]
>> Uh it would be two years from the time
[1:00:59]
we signed the agreements.
[1:01:01]
>> Okay. So like moving forward now two
[1:01:03]
more. Yeah. Thank you.
[1:01:05]
>> Okay. Is there any other concerns about
[1:01:07]
this? Um call question. All in favor?
[1:01:12]
>> Thank you. That's carried.
[1:01:15]
>> Um next water conservation plan update
[1:01:20]
report.
[1:01:21]
Um, Mrs. Coulson, thank you.
[1:01:23]
>> Got my name on it. Um, but we're pleased
[1:01:25]
to have our engineer, Steve Underwood
[1:01:27]
from True Consulting with us today. And,
[1:01:30]
um, Mr. Underwood is going to present
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council with a water conservation plan
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update.
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>> Thank you. Please go ahead, Steve.
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» Yeah. So, Um, last fall we prepared an
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update to the water conservation plan.
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Um, it's been in a draft form for too
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long and for so now we finally got it
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here today to uh present to council
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hopefully um have it endorsed. Having an
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endor a council endorsed water
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conservation plan is usually a
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requirement of grant funding
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applications. Um new requirements are
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also that these uh conservation plans
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contain actual targets like values that
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are measurable and that there's a method
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in which we um propose to report our
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compliance with them and or you know
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achieving our targets. So this new plan
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um while your last plan did have a
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target, we didn't really check in on it
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um very regularly or at all. Um and and
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so this plan actually gives you targets
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for the next for every 5 years for for
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moving forward for the next foreseeable
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future.
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The other big thing that this plan's
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going to do for you is inform the sizing
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of your water treatment plant project.
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Uh right now your water treatment plant
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is proposed to be a $51 million water
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treatment plant. That's without the
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intake. $65 million a width in intake,
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but the actual plant facility itself is
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51 million and its capacity is 24.7
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megaliters per day.
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What we're proposing in this water
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conservation plan is that we reduce that
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number from 24 to 17 through
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conservation.
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And really the uh 54 or 51 million
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scales with with that. So that's like a
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28% reduction in what in the size of the
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plant and it corresponds generally not
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exactly but to a 28% reduction in the
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cost of the plant. Um and really when we
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look at this this is MDD so that's
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maximum day demand. That is the plant
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has to be sized to be able to meet our
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maximum day demand every um day in the
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summer. Um, our current demand this year
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has peaked out at 14 MLDD. So, we're currently well under that number,
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but we're under some pretty serious
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restrictions. Since our new restrictions
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came in, we've actually dropped it down
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to 12 or 11 since August 1st. So, we're well under the numbers already
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with the measures that we put in place
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that we're proposing.
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But we're also proposing that as
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population grows that we continue to
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reduce our per capita demand.
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Right now um our 5year trailing average
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day demand so add is 1,044
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liters per capita per day. Um we we've
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chosen that as a metric for our targets
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mainly because most other jurisdictions
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report that as well. like we can go into
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everyone else's annual water reports and
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find out what their um annual average um
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daily demand is per capita. Um there's
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Canadian averages published, there's BC
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averages, there's lower mainland like
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the Canadian average is 320 liters per
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capita per day add. We're at,044.
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But our MDD is what's really important
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to us. Um for the last 20 years it's
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almost exactly at 2.4 44 multiplier for
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our ADD to MDD
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and it's been it's been that way every
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year. So we by targeting a reduction in
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ADD will see a a corresponding reduction
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in MDD and and MDD is actually what
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drives um the sizing of our plant. So
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managing MDD is most important to us but
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all the targets I tell you in here are
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actually add targets. Moving forward, we
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could come up with some goals to try and
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reduce that multiplier of 2.44. Um, but
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that that would achieve the same thing
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as trying to make our treatment plant
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smaller.
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Another note is that, you know, this
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plan targets, you know, water treatment
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plant size in the 17 range and our wells
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can provide 17.2. So, our it's kind of
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within the range of our current ability
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to supply water as well.
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Within the water conservation plan, um
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there's kind of like three different
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options that were analyzed for what we
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think growth could be and and what our
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um demand reduction could be. This graph
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is is of the recommended option, which
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is to assume that growth is going to be
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what the average growth has been in the
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Okonogan for the last 20 years, which is
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1.3%.
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Um there's lots of other studies that
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have been done that use higher growth
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factors, but what we're trying to say is
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here's a realistic one. Like let's plan
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on a on actual numbers, not these two
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and three and 4% growth because they compound annually. And so it's a
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1.3%
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growth um coupled with a 1.7%
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annual reduction in ADD. So what we're
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saying is every year people need to save
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1.7% of their water uh from the last
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year and our demand will slowly drop
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kind of as this graph shows. Uh that's I
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guess the laser pointer there's a middle
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line there where you see an immediate
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drop of like 20% and then it goes flat.
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That's actually more likely what's going
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to happen as we start reading our
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meters. We're probably going to actually
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see a significant drop. will go below
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our current goals and we can report that we're below our goals and then we
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don't have to pull any other levers on
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conservation
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immediately. We just have to keep our
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eyes on our goals and know that you know
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we're well as we reapproach our uh
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future goals that we might have to pull
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other levers to to achieve them.
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This graph shows it on the MDD um chart.
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I'm going to flip to it because I'm
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having troubles reading those numbers.
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But uh you can see that uh our current
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MDD has has fluctuated you know previous
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to 2026
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somewhere between the high 14s and you
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know 17 or 18. Um and that's our
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historic MDD.
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it has trended down u even as we've
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grown our the trend line has been
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slightly down so things have been
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working uh we have been doing public
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education we have metered our major
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users we have done a lot of things over
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the years um moving forward we're going
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to see a a larger reduction with our new
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metering and and we now have really
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clear data on what's happening with our
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water we we know, frankly, who's using
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water every day of the week because we
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can we can record that if we want and we
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know who's complying with our irrigation
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restrictions and how many people aren't.
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Um we know um generally where all the
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water is going. um except
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when we look at you know how much we're
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reading and how much um how much we're
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pumping there is maybe between two and
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three megaliters a day that we haven't
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accounted for yet in our metering
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program. So that is something that it's
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another lever we can pull. we can try
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and look for it and and see what we can
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do to to explain that water, whether
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it's leakage or whether it's being used
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on unmetered services that may be town
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um properties that we hadn't uh or parks
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that we haven't metered yet. Um and so
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that is something that we can look at.
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But as we as we achieve these goals, the demand we're projecting the demand
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to actually drop over the next 20 years
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down into the 14 range and it may even
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be lower, like we may even get down to
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12. Um and and then there'll be a limit
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where we our residents can't necessarily
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conserve more. Um there there won't be
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as it won't be as easy to dial back the
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lawn irrigation or change out fixtures
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or whatever. and and then the demand
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will start to increase as population
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goes up because these graphs show us
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going down till we hit that target which
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is in the water conservation plan of six
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an add of 600 L per capita per day and
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then once we get there we don't show any
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additional uh conservation past that so
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it does creep up and so by 2080
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the year 2080 if we use the you know the
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1.3% growth model we hit a treatment
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plant design of 17.4
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um which is many years out like planning
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for a size of that is very reasonable
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and there will be growth obviously to
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trigger that 1.3% growth there'll be
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dcc's and stuff collected in that time
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that will pay for these plant
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expansions. So what we're proposing here
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is if we can adopt these targets that we
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can plan this plant for 50 years knowing
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that uh we only have to um build it to a
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17 capacity.
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If the growth was 2%
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um you can see that it does go up to
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that 24 number which is the green line
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on this chart by uh by the year 2080. Um
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the original idea behind the 2.4 or 24
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megal liters a day plant sizing was no
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conservation. So like the the reason
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that number was chosen was assuming that
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we weren't capable of conserving
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anymore. But what we're now saying is we
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have to conserve. We have to drive this
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down to try and reduce the cost of this
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flat to make things affordable.
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So, our recommendations um out of this
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report um is that council endorse the
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[snorts] report and its recommendation
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to target um demand reduction in five
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year the five-year targets down to 600 L
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per capita ADD.
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Um we also recommend that you maintain
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your current
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um metered rate structure. If you have a
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metered rate structure, we want to
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recommend that you um you know
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transition your users to it and start
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charging volutrically based on
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consumption per your current uh rate
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structure.
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Um we have noticed lots of major water
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users and it sounds like um staff have
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already been investigating them. We can
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like I said we can read the data. We've
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been True has been reading your meter
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data daily. We've been tracking it daily
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by address to get an idea of of you know
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where and how our water is using and
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there is some major users out in normal
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neighborhoods. Um and so public work
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should visit them. Uh some of them are
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consuming 30 cubic meters a night. Like
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that's 30,000 liters in in one day. Um
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so we do need to figure out where that
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water is going. Could be the meters
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installed wrong. Like it doesn't mean
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they're actually doing it. uh we need to
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understand some of these anomalies and
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um and get to the bottom of them because
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um basically your top 100 users are
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using 25% of your water according to the
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data and so we need to get on those
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um
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as we move forward. I don't think we'll
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have to do much more than at the
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beginning than just start billing by
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metered rates. But there the re the
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report does recommend other levers you
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can pull by like giving rebates for
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irrigation controllers um you know
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different targeted rebate programs. We
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wouldn't propose to put anything in next
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year's budget or likely the year after's
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budget for any programs like that. That
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would be something that that staff could
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bring forward at a future date if we're
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trying to get to a goal and we just
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haven't been able to get there that we
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look at we analyze our data where our
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water is going and then try and choose
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programs that might uh be able to reduce
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those numbers down. But the most
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important recommendation here is that we
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report our progress annually. We're
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proposing to add a section to the at
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least the water annual water report that
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just is conservation where we revisit
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these targets. We check that we're um
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working towards them because if we're
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not our plant will not if and we build a
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plant down to 17 uh our plant won't be
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large enough to meet our growth
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projections. So we will either have to
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start um budgeting for a plant expansion
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or start reducing our demand. Um, so
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constantly looking back at these targets
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and where our progress is to them is the
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best thing that we can do and take them
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seriously. Once we've built a plant
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that's that this size, we will have to
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make sure we achieve this.
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» That concludes my report.
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>> Thank you, Steve. Um that was that was
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quite interesting to read the whole
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report and see where we can what we have
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done and what we can do and we don't
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know what we can do until we have the
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information and that's why water
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metering is so important because we do
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get that a lot more information now did
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that did they go through the same
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concerns when this was done in Oliver
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when they did it a while back where same
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size community sort mostly although we
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get a lot more visitors I think than
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they do that.
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>> Yeah. So Oliver saw a 40% reduction in
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water demand almost immediately with the
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installation of meters. Oliver at the
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same time had um their two largest wells
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become contaminated with uranium. and
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Oliver was able to simply turn them off
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and was able to supply water to their
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customers for many years with their two
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largest sources offline because of their
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metering that came in in '07.
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>> Wow.
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>> And they've kept it down. They've done a
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good job. They have had to add one new
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source since then to replace one of the
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two that have come down, but they are in
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a a really good supply situation. The
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other thing Oliver was able to do was
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defer a sewage treatment plant upgrade
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by 40 years with this. Again, the same
[1:16:38]
reduction in water demand created a
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corresponding reduction in sewer demand
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and and made their current plant size
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reach, you know, 40 years beyond where
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it thought we thought it was going to be
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able to go.
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That's good to hear because um when when
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we always hear bad news and what's going
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wrong, it's nice to know that we there
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are things we can do to um to make this
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work well. Good. Thank you, Councelor
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King.
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>> Yeah. Thank you, Madam. I have two or
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three questions. One would be I think
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you should report every 6 months instead
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of a year because I think a year would
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be past what we might need to know. And
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I just want a clarity. You said maybe a
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100 people consume 25% of the water. Who
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goes out and talks to them? I just
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wanted clarity on that.
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» Mark, do you have the answer to who's
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going?
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>> Yeah, we we've had people from our
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waterworks division go out as they have
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time. Uh starting with the top users
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that we can't explain where the water is
[1:17:41]
going. They're they're just working
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through them kind of one address at a
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time. But also if they choose not to cut
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back, they just will pay a lot more.
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>> That will be the end result. Yes. But in
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the interim, they're ruling out, as Mr.
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Underwood said, the possibility of a
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malfunction in the meter. And if they
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talk to them and say, "Yes, we are using
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30,000 LERs a night." Then we know
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there's no malfunction. It's their
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choice.
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>> I guess one last question. Can you
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explain to me the difference between a a
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portable water treatment plant and a
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portable W water filter system?
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>> I would say there's probably no
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difference. Like it I think that's just
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a terminology question, but a port a
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portable water treatment plant would
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just be something that's likely been
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containerized that we you could pick up
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and move. Um they're common in the
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mining camps up in the north. You would
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kind of order one from somewhere. The
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size of them aren't usually at the scale
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that we're talking here. We're not like
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uh when we talk 17 megaliters a day or
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25 megaliters a day, you don't usually
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see a portable one that's that size,
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» councelor Chong.
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>> Thank you. [clears throat]
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Not going to try to hog the mic here,
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but um with the per capita calculation
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is the the population that's used for
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the denominator is that the 55 56
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population that's reported by census.
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>> Yeah. Um so it's it's plus the rural
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area. So it's it's so it's more like a
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6,000 and something denominator. And I
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acknowledge it's not necessarily fair uh
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because of the tourist influx here. And
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so I I think we always have to keep that
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in mind that when I say your neighboring
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community has a per capita demand of
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500, which some of your neighbors do,
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and you're at a thousand, um you're also talking about the water
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consumption that comes from um your
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tourist population. So your residents
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are being punished by saying you know
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their demand is it the tourist demand is
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on to your 6,000 residents.
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Then to get higher resolution data
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there's we can differentiate the meter
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data based on the size of the meter. So
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most residences are I forgot the the
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width but we can just parse data from
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them and but also see what stratas or
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hotels and motel are also using right
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>> yeah so one way easy way to sort our
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data is by meter size so we can sort it
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by 3/4 in andor 5/8 meters and see what
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that generally represents our residents
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so we can see what they're using and we
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can totalize that easily and yes each
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address so strata uh you know has a
[1:20:35]
number of units associated with it. So
[1:20:37]
we do know which ones are stratas and
[1:20:39]
how much the individual stratas are
[1:20:41]
using kind of per unit but we don't know
[1:20:42]
how much has been used in the individual
[1:20:44]
units because we just measure the strata
[1:20:45]
at the property line. So, since we've
[1:20:49]
been collecting data, excuse
[1:20:50]
[clears throat] me, since the uh the
[1:20:52]
water meters are installed, is there a
[1:20:55]
better way to kind of calculate what our
[1:20:57]
per capita usage is based on the meter
[1:21:00]
size, which mostly
[1:21:03]
pertains to residential and there's some
[1:21:05]
commercial in there as well, right?
[1:21:09]
>> Yeah. So, and it comes down to the
[1:21:11]
target like the target is just an add um
[1:21:14]
that is a simple calculation. Um but
[1:21:17]
yes, we could do high resolution
[1:21:20]
um data crunching for you to say what
[1:21:22]
our residents are actually using, but
[1:21:25]
the people we're benchmarking ourselves
[1:21:27]
against like the city of Pentictton
[1:21:29]
aren't doing that, right? So their
[1:21:31]
number I think last year was 585 liters
[1:21:33]
per capita per day um that they have a
[1:21:37]
similar tourist influx. Maybe not as but
[1:21:41]
we'd have to like see what the
[1:21:42]
comparison is but they've have managed
[1:21:44]
to get their number significantly lower
[1:21:47]
than you've managed to get your number
[1:21:48]
and and and the reason we've chosen that
[1:21:50]
add is is more just that benchmarking
[1:21:52]
between uh us and and like the Canadian
[1:21:55]
average which is 320.
[1:22:01]
» Um thank you water counselors. Any
[1:22:04]
concerns questions from you guys? Okay.
[1:22:07]
I've just wondered. Um, so what we're um
[1:22:11]
what the recommended motion is that we
[1:22:14]
adopt the 2025 water conservation plan
[1:22:16]
update um and direct staff to begin
[1:22:20]
researching the implementation of the
[1:22:22]
strategies incorporating the future capital and operational work
[1:22:27]
plans for the town of Isuyas. Is there
[1:22:29]
somebody
[1:22:31]
>> Thank you. seconded. It's been moved and
[1:22:34]
seconded.
[1:22:35]
Absolutely. Go ahead.
[1:22:37]
>> Thank you. [clears throat] Is there an
[1:22:39]
opportunity to do to obviously want to
[1:22:42]
start with education? Um is there a
[1:22:45]
possibility to do a quarterly like
[1:22:48]
billing mock cycle if we were to use our
[1:22:50]
current fee structure just to show the average household like this is what
[1:22:56]
it would cost
[1:22:58]
according to and this is how much you
[1:23:00]
you've used. Just so that it gives them
[1:23:02]
some context.
[1:23:08]
Yes, we we trying to figure out how to
[1:23:10]
word this properly. Um, so we do have
[1:23:12]
the water consumption and of course you
[1:23:13]
saw that we have implemented the portal
[1:23:15]
which allows uh our 360 portal allows
[1:23:17]
people and residents to sign up see
[1:23:19]
their cons their consumption in real
[1:23:21]
time. Um we any type of questions we do
[1:23:24]
get we have um put out kind of
[1:23:26]
communication through our um e-news and
[1:23:29]
website of what the rates currently are
[1:23:32]
today uh based on if it were metered and
[1:23:35]
given them kind of like a calculation
[1:23:37]
matrix like take your base plus your per cap you know your per per cubic
[1:23:42]
meter per the price and that's what your
[1:23:45]
bill would be. Um we have not been in a
[1:23:48]
position to do mock billing although
[1:23:49]
that had been discussed just given um we
[1:23:53]
are still haven't completed the whole
[1:23:55]
phase of installation of of meters. We
[1:23:57]
still have a few out there and we're
[1:23:59]
still working and troubleshooting
[1:24:00]
through a couple other issues with the
[1:24:02]
meters but um um yeah over overall we we
[1:24:07]
can highlight it I guess more on a
[1:24:09]
website more of a general this is a
[1:24:11]
formula to calculate it if that kind of
[1:24:14]
answers your question.
[1:24:17]
So, um I think one of the things on our
[1:24:19]
website when you go on right away is the
[1:24:21]
water advisory and there's quite a lot
[1:24:23]
of of information on it um right right
[1:24:26]
away that you can get. I think maybe we
[1:24:29]
need to do something similar to put on
[1:24:32]
the website uh about water conservation.
[1:24:36]
And I know it it I mean this is a big
[1:24:38]
report that we've got, but if we could
[1:24:41]
have something that would give a a two
[1:24:44]
or three pager on on what we're talking
[1:24:48]
about here, it's a lot to absorb. I
[1:24:50]
think that would be helpful and it's
[1:24:51]
something we could direct people who are
[1:24:54]
concerned to go and and read.
[1:24:58]
>> Yes. Go ahead.
[1:24:58]
>> Yes. And I think it would be important
[1:25:00]
to try to encourage more people to sign
[1:25:02]
up to my 360. I've been going on regular
[1:25:05]
and looking at it and it's quite
[1:25:07]
interesting. It's really simple to use.
[1:25:09]
You only really got to push a couple
[1:25:11]
buttons after you've logged on. So, you
[1:25:13]
can see your own consumption and I think
[1:25:16]
a lot of people be happy and maybe
[1:25:17]
there'll be a few people unhappy but it
[1:25:19]
is quite accurate on reading your own
[1:25:22]
meter. It's kind of exciting to do that.
[1:25:24]
>> We have launched um when we launched the
[1:25:27]
program, we did put out a various
[1:25:29]
different e-newses and on our Facebook
[1:25:31]
and on the website here's instructions
[1:25:32]
on how to do it. We we help people here
[1:25:35]
in the office. If they come to the front
[1:25:36]
desk, we'll help sign them up for it. Um
[1:25:39]
and then on this latest quarterly
[1:25:42]
billing, we did put a section right on
[1:25:44]
the bottom that we do encourage you to
[1:25:46]
see your, you know, to sign up so you
[1:25:47]
can see your daily consumption.
[1:25:51]
>> Question.
[1:25:52]
>> Thank you to you and through you
[1:25:54]
director Keith. Do we know roughly how
[1:25:56]
many we've had um register or subscribe
[1:25:59]
to that data?
[1:26:00]
>> I think we're up to over 200 now.
[1:26:03]
>> Thank you. Yeah.
[1:26:05]
>> Okay. So, we have had a mover and a
[1:26:08]
seconder on the recommended motion. Um I will call for the question. All in
[1:26:14]
favor?
[1:26:16]
Thank you. And that was unanimous. All
[1:26:18]
seven. Thank you very much.
[1:26:30]
Steve, for um
[1:26:32]
providing that for us. Next, we're going
[1:26:35]
on to bylaws. Uh zoning amendment um
[1:26:38]
bylaw. Um yeah, zoning bylaw amendment
[1:26:42]
for 28 Empire Street. Is that Miss Dwong
[1:26:45]
again? Good. Thank you, Miss Dwong. Go
[1:26:47]
ahead, please.
[1:26:49]
>> We'll do. And I do have a quick
[1:26:51]
presentation for this one.
[1:26:54]
Mhm. [clears throat]
[1:26:56]
>> And
[1:26:57]
see,
[1:26:59]
and is the slide coming up on your side?
[1:27:02]
>> Yes, we can see it. Thank you.
[1:27:05]
>> All right, perfect. So, uh just a quick
[1:27:06]
heads up on this one. I am presenting uh
[1:27:09]
the overview of this application,
[1:27:11]
although um I do have Colin Martin also
[1:27:13]
with me in the room, um who is the file
[1:27:16]
manager for this application, just in
[1:27:17]
case any questions come up at the end.
[1:27:19]
Um but with that, I'll just go ahead and
[1:27:21]
get started.
[1:27:22]
So, this is a zoning uh bylaw amendment
[1:27:25]
application for the property at 28
[1:27:27]
Empire Street. The OCP designation that
[1:27:30]
applies to this property is industrial
[1:27:32]
and it has a corresponding zoning of
[1:27:34]
general industrial. The parcel is just
[1:27:37]
over 4,000 square meters in size and is
[1:27:39]
currently understood to contain an auto
[1:27:42]
body shop as well as an automotive
[1:27:44]
museum.
[1:27:46]
So the automotive museum is actually the
[1:27:48]
subject of this resoning application as
[1:27:50]
the applicant is proposing to operate an
[1:27:52]
indoor automotive tourist uh attraction
[1:27:55]
uh being the desert speed heritage
[1:27:57]
museum at the subject property. It is
[1:27:59]
understood that the museum is currently
[1:28:01]
operating.
[1:28:03]
the general industrial or I1 zone and
[1:28:05]
that applies to this property is
[1:28:07]
intended to support a variety of
[1:28:08]
industrial uses and that includes um
[1:28:11]
various uses um including but not
[1:28:13]
limited to construction supply center
[1:28:15]
manufacturing salvage operation service
[1:28:18]
industry establishment and vehicle sales
[1:28:20]
and rental. Now um museums um are
[1:28:24]
actually not permitted within the zone.
[1:28:25]
So despite being um currently in
[1:28:28]
operation, this is not an outright
[1:28:29]
permitted use within the I1 zone and
[1:28:31]
they're actually only permitted within
[1:28:33]
the administrative and institutional and
[1:28:35]
town center zones throughout the town.
[1:28:39]
As such, the applicant is requesting to
[1:28:40]
amend the zoning of the applica of the
[1:28:42]
property under the town's uh zoning
[1:28:44]
bylaw uh from general industrial to
[1:28:47]
general industrial site specific in
[1:28:48]
order to allow cultural facility as a
[1:28:51]
permitted principal use and specifically
[1:28:53]
that that be in the form of a museum.
[1:28:57]
Now, in considering this proposal, staff
[1:28:59]
do note that industrial lands within the
[1:29:00]
town are limited to those lands in the
[1:29:03]
uh Buenov Vista Industrial Park, which
[1:29:05]
is located at the northwest corner of
[1:29:07]
the town. expansion of these lands is
[1:29:09]
greatly limited by uh just its location
[1:29:12]
uh specifically jurisdictional
[1:29:14]
boundaries as it's located right at the
[1:29:16]
border of the town and electoral area A
[1:29:18]
of the RDOS. It's also bounded by
[1:29:21]
existing industrial and non-industrial
[1:29:22]
development as well as competing land
[1:29:24]
uses such as those lands that are
[1:29:25]
located to the south uh which are
[1:29:28]
designated under the OCP for
[1:29:29]
environmental conservation purposes.
[1:29:33]
>> [snorts]
[1:29:33]
>> Now, the OCP sets out intended use uh
[1:29:36]
the intended use of industrial lands as
[1:29:38]
being to support light and heavy
[1:29:40]
industrial uses and this is reflected in
[1:29:42]
the town's zoning bylaw by way of
[1:29:44]
permitted uses within the general
[1:29:45]
industrial zone. Now, general industrial
[1:29:48]
uses uh or non-industrial uses are those
[1:29:51]
which are typically not seen to be
[1:29:52]
compatible with industrial uses are not
[1:29:54]
permitted within this zone and would
[1:29:56]
otherwise require the discretionary
[1:29:58]
approval on a case-byase basis through a
[1:30:00]
reszoning process just like this one.
[1:30:02]
Now, in these instances, council can
[1:30:03]
assess whether a proposed use is
[1:30:05]
appropriate within the context of the
[1:30:06]
industrial designation and whether it's
[1:30:09]
an effective use of land uh in the
[1:30:11]
industrial area.
[1:30:14]
So, in this particular case, the request
[1:30:16]
is understood to allow an automotive
[1:30:18]
museum in addition to all other uses
[1:30:20]
which would normally be permitted within
[1:30:21]
the I1 zone. So in this regard, the
[1:30:23]
property owner would be maintaining
[1:30:25]
their ability to undertake all other
[1:30:26]
forms of industrial uses which are
[1:30:28]
currently permitted in the I1 zone even
[1:30:30]
if the reszoning is approved.
[1:30:33]
Additionally, the museum is focused on
[1:30:34]
automobiles and relates to an existing
[1:30:36]
principal auto body shop at the property
[1:30:38]
which would reduce the overall
[1:30:40]
likelihood that users would be affected
[1:30:41]
by any typical negative impacts of being
[1:30:43]
near industrial sites uh such as
[1:30:45]
nuisances like noise and air quality. As
[1:30:48]
such, we do see that the proposal is
[1:30:50]
generally seen to be compatible with the
[1:30:52]
existing industrial use of the property
[1:30:54]
and wouldn't be hindering its use for
[1:30:56]
industrial purposes into the future.
[1:30:59]
We do also recognize that as a resort
[1:31:02]
municipality, the town does face unique
[1:31:04]
challenges um with respect to how it can
[1:31:07]
balance year-round businesses with
[1:31:08]
tourism priorities. The OCP does contain
[1:31:11]
supportive policy which encourages the
[1:31:13]
expansion of the attractiveness of the
[1:31:15]
town year round and prioritizes
[1:31:17]
attracting new businesses. But it is
[1:31:19]
also recognized that of course uh there
[1:31:21]
is limited industrial land and the OCP
[1:31:24]
then supports um the infill and
[1:31:26]
redevelopment of underutilized
[1:31:28]
industrial uh properties. In response to
[1:31:31]
this, as the proposal is seen to provide
[1:31:34]
for an indoor year-round attraction, u
[1:31:36]
it does appear to be consistent with the
[1:31:38]
town's priority to support year-round
[1:31:40]
tourism and a year-round economy.
[1:31:43]
On the other hand, and as mentioned,
[1:31:45]
industrial lands within the town are
[1:31:46]
very limited, and there may be more
[1:31:48]
appropriate locations to site and
[1:31:50]
operate a museum. As mentioned, cultural
[1:31:52]
facilities are typically found within
[1:31:54]
the administrative and institutional
[1:31:55]
zone where they're permitted outright.
[1:31:57]
But these lands are also very limited
[1:31:58]
and are generally already occupied by
[1:32:00]
existing uses, which makes it quite
[1:32:02]
challenging to identify other suitable
[1:32:04]
administrative and institutional lands
[1:32:06]
for the proposed use. Uh that being said
[1:32:08]
though, the applicant may have
[1:32:10]
opportunities to identify town center
[1:32:12]
zone lands within the downtown core,
[1:32:13]
which could also permit uh cultural
[1:32:16]
facilities as well.
[1:32:18]
So, at this time, we are uh requesting
[1:32:20]
council's direction with respect to the
[1:32:22]
proposed bylaw amendment and further
[1:32:24]
reasons uh provided. We are um
[1:32:26]
recommending that the amendment bylaw be
[1:32:28]
read a first and second time and proceed
[1:32:30]
to public hearing on September 8th uh
[1:32:32]
2026. Um should the reasonzoning be
[1:32:35]
successful if council supportive of it,
[1:32:36]
a change of use permit may be required.
[1:32:38]
Um and improvements may also be required
[1:32:40]
to satisfy BC building code
[1:32:42]
requirements. Thank you.
[1:32:45]
>> Thank you very much, Miss Dwang. I
[1:32:47]
appreciate that. Go ahead, Council.
[1:32:49]
>> Great presentation. Thank you very much.
[1:32:51]
I'll move option one
[1:32:54]
>> and it's been seconded
[1:32:57]
and yes, go ahead for a question. Yeah,
[1:33:00]
>> thank you. You too, Mr. Um, does the um
[1:33:04]
zoning by amendment does that uh change
[1:33:06]
the parking requirements for the
[1:33:07]
property? Would those stay the same?
[1:33:12]
Um it would the use itself is what
[1:33:16]
triggers the parking requirements. So
[1:33:17]
that's not altering parking requirements
[1:33:19]
at the site. Um cultural facilities have
[1:33:21]
their own parking requirements under the
[1:33:23]
zoning bylaw and those would need to be
[1:33:24]
met um in order for the use to take
[1:33:26]
place.
[1:33:27]
>> Thank you.
[1:33:29]
>> Okay. So, it's for uh it's the the
[1:33:33]
entire recommendation that that be read
[1:33:36]
a first and second time and that there
[1:33:38]
be a a scheduled um uh open public
[1:33:41]
meeting public hearing on September the
[1:33:43]
8th and that staff give notice to the
[1:33:46]
public hearing in accordance with the
[1:33:48]
recommendations. That's what we're
[1:33:49]
voting on. All right. All in favor
[1:33:52]
against? No. Thank you very much. That
[1:33:55]
car
[1:34:08]
Sorry, we will now have um a chief
[1:34:12]
administrative officer report. This is
[1:34:17]
>> uh in community services, the park
[1:34:19]
benches and picnic tables have been
[1:34:21]
ordered for Metoark Park and
[1:34:23]
Playgrounds, which good news for lots of
[1:34:25]
people. and the outdoor uh fitness
[1:34:27]
equipment has been ordered as well. The
[1:34:29]
cactus kids day camp is slowly winding
[1:34:32]
down. The leaders have done a great job
[1:34:33]
in entertaining the kids despite not
[1:34:35]
being able to go outside due to the
[1:34:37]
smoke. And the last day of camp is on
[1:34:39]
August 21st. Fall program planning is
[1:34:43]
underway and staff are looking to put in
[1:34:45]
new programs in response to the program
[1:34:47]
survey that was online and many of our
[1:34:50]
residents responded to. At Sun Bowl, ice
[1:34:53]
times are filling up with both scheduled
[1:34:55]
hockey events and with private users. In
[1:34:59]
corporate services, the front counter
[1:35:00]
staff are fielding calls as Miss Keith
[1:35:03]
mentioned uh about setting up the My 360
[1:35:07]
online water monitoring app. And uh as
[1:35:11]
we also mentioned, there is been about
[1:35:13]
200 residents register for the free
[1:35:15]
service already. Bylaw officers are w
[1:35:18]
issuing watering tickets now and
[1:35:20]
following up on boats and sidus that
[1:35:22]
have been parked on the town's beaches.
[1:35:25]
Parking tickets were suspended during
[1:35:27]
the period of time of some fire evacuees
[1:35:30]
being in town. Um they were taking
[1:35:32]
refuge on our street. So we suspended
[1:35:34]
all parking tickets for the for that
[1:35:36]
period of time.
[1:35:38]
Uh preparations for the election are
[1:35:40]
well underway now with the development
[1:35:41]
of forms and the assembly of mail ballot
[1:35:44]
packages minus the ballot of course and
[1:35:47]
uh initial testing of the automated vote
[1:35:49]
counting machines. Uh I want to
[1:35:51]
highlight the fact that nominations for
[1:35:53]
candidacy uh in the upcoming election
[1:35:56]
will be formally accepted between the
[1:35:59]
statutory dates and times of September
[1:36:01]
1st at 9:00 a.m. and September 11th at
[1:36:04]
400 p.m. Anyone considering running in
[1:36:07]
the election must submit those forms to
[1:36:10]
the chief election officer Amy Robinson
[1:36:12]
or her designate between those times for
[1:36:15]
their names to appear on the ballot.
[1:36:17]
Also for those who may be considering
[1:36:19]
candid candidacies but wish to know more
[1:36:22]
uh please feel free to come into the
[1:36:23]
municipal office talk to the election
[1:36:25]
officers or to any of the current
[1:36:27]
elected officials whether it be in a
[1:36:29]
Soyas or another jurisdiction. We really
[1:36:31]
recommend firsttime candidates to have a
[1:36:34]
full understanding of what it's like to
[1:36:35]
be an elected official. Um, there's also
[1:36:38]
a number of great videos that were
[1:36:40]
produced by the province of BC on the
[1:36:42]
town's website under 2006 election and
[1:36:45]
information for candidates that walk
[1:36:47]
through all the aspects of being an
[1:36:49]
elected official. In the communications
[1:36:51]
area, uh, on Facebook, we now have 94
[1:36:55]
followers and there have been 30 posts
[1:36:58]
since the last update and 35,000 page
[1:37:01]
views. uh websites had 28,000 views
[1:37:04]
since the last report and our parking
[1:37:08]
survey results are live and online on
[1:37:11]
that survey page. If anybody hasn't had
[1:37:13]
a look at them, we had over 600
[1:37:16]
responses and lots and lots of great
[1:37:19]
feedback.
[1:37:21]
Uh the water conservation survey has
[1:37:24]
just closed, so those results will be up
[1:37:26]
shortly and there was over 200 responses
[1:37:28]
to that. In the planning and development
[1:37:31]
services, business licenses issued since
[1:37:33]
the last update are the Palmus Kitchen
[1:37:36]
and Bar at the Holiday Inn, Oracle Real
[1:37:38]
Realy, which is home occupation, LS
[1:37:41]
Sports and Entertainment for the Isoyas
[1:37:43]
Coyotes, and a numbered company uh
[1:37:47]
2179639
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Alberta, which is a home occupation for
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painting. Six residential building
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permits were issued during the month of
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July in the amount of $1,460,000.
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Uh the building official has posted two
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stop work orders on residential
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properties that were either building or
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renovating without permits. The planning
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department also issued three preliminary
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layout reviews uh for sub subdivision
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applicants. So things are really ramping
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up in the in the planning area. Finally,
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for planning, we did get confirmation
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from the ALC that they have received our
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application for the block exclusion and
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they have cautioned us that they are
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facing staffing shortages. So, they're
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um they anticipate there will be delays
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in processing that for financial
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services. Quarter 3 utilities billings
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were issued on August 14th and the bills
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will show water consumption for um for
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clients information only. The town
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continues to encourage residents to sign
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up for my 360 in order to have that
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real-time water consumption information
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and uh they can go to either a soyc.ca
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there's step-by-step instructions or
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call the town office or come in for
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assistance in signing up. 2027 budget
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planning is underway with the fire
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department and sunbo budgets coming
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forward to council for the August and
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September meetings respectively. fire
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department. Over the first six months of
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the year, Soy Fire Department responded
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to 34% fewer calls for service than over
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the same period of time last year. But
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it's important to note that when
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comparing July, just the one month of
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July, 2026 to 25, the calls have
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increased by 20%. So it's it's variable.
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uh town the autonomous waste fire
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department has been assisting
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firefighting efforts throughout the
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region from August 7th to the 16th. The
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fire department worked alongside other
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fire departments from across the
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province in protecting the town of
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Summerland. The fire department has also
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provided standby coverage to the BC
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Wildfire Service for the Southern
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Okonogan for the past two weeks. This
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week, the fire department anticipates
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receiving a shipment of face coverings
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from the Canadian Red Cross to assist
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people in the community that are feeling
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the impacts of the smoke. These
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coverings will be distributed throughout
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the community for both visitors and
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residents free of charge.
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Finally, in operational services, public
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works department has received the
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replacement fountain pump. We've noticed
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our our down at Pioneer Walkway, the the
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fountain is not working right now. Um we
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will be installing the new pump in the
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fall. Quail place capital works are
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complete and phase one of the 89th
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Street construction is uh paved and um
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nearing completion. Uh director of
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operations Tyler Madison Madson, I'm
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sorry, has left his position with the town to take a position as CEO in
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Liilowette. So we wish him all the best
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in his new job. And we're very pleased
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to have Deputy Director of Operational
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Services, Jill Abney, acting as
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director.
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» Thank you, Risha. Thank you very much.
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And thank you, Jill, for stepping in.
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Appreciate it. Um,
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>> did you have a question? Sure.
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>> Just one question. Has the town received
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any update if the musical right is
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moving forward this Saturday or has it
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been cancelled?
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As far as I know, it's it's uh it's
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still scheduled to
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>> Okay. Thank you.
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>> And it's Sunday,
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>> not Saturday.
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>> But [laughter]
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[gasps] okay. Um can we go to council?
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Oh, we need to receive the CEO report
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for information, please. Thank you,
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Councelor Puerto Rica. Councelor King.
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All in favor? Thank you. Okay, councelor
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King, you're next. Yeah, not too much to
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report other than I guess people might
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know my wife he ordered her back. So now
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I become the chief cook and bottle
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washer.
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>> Do you make cookies too?
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>> Yeah. [laughter]
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» Good. Okay. Thank you, Councelor
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Bennett.
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>> I have nothing to report for this
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meeting. Thank you,
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>> Councelor Chong.
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>> I have something to report.
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>> Oh.
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Uh oh. What did you win?
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>> A so every year Assus and in Assus Golf
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Club and Incom Golf Club play against
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each other for the Ryder Cup and I'm
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happy to announce that Assus has won two
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years in a row. [gasps]
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So just wanted to gloat a bit. So thank
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you to all the staff from both Inkam
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Golf Course and Assus Golf Club for all
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the hard work they do. And uh also thank
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you head pro Matt for the pity pick of
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me for being on the team.
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» Terrific. Thank you councelor Potter
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Rica.
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>> Uh worship no trophies this week but uh on July 29th attended yourself. Um
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the um Suz Center had the official
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ribbon cutting and unveiling of their
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new accessible washroom project uh which
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has added two uh fully wheelchair
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accessible uh washroom stalls um to
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their uh center. Uh a great addition
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there obviously um as part of the
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accessibility improvements have been
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made over the last couple years uh to
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the property uh allowing uh more
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visitors um easier access to the
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property. And aside from that, just some
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meetings with I've had some recent
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meetings with regards to the fire and
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ice festival uh currently planned for uh
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later this year. And that's my report.
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>> Thank you. So um yeah, I have a couple
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things. Um one, I was also at the Desert
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Center um opening of the of the very
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nice washrooms which used to be at 7710,
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our property. uh and um it was well
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attended and despite the fact there was
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smoke um it was um there were quite a
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few people there so appreciate being
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invited to that. Um I've been on several
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RDOS meetings, regional district
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meetings. Um I do get updates
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two or three times a day on fire issues
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in the regional district and I know that
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there that certainly that's available on
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all the news media. So including um uh
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updates from our fire chief as well on
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not necessarily the ones uh close to
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Summerland but mostly the ones across
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the line that we're still dealing with.
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them and we seem to have a few more. So,
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that's been a lot. Um, recently um I
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have also been on EMCR, that's emergency
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management, climate readiness meetings
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um uh probably every two weeks,
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sometimes it's every week, just updates
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on um the river forecast, the wildfires,
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and how many um how many there are and
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where they are. And that information is
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pretty available to everybody too. But I
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do attend those ones. Um the the meeting
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that we had um here um we had an an
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invitation from uh Walrus, the water uh
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land and resource stewardship um
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minister to um attend a meeting in
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Assuyas and uh talk to um us about um
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some of the big concerns that they that
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they had were drought um and drought
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preparation.
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and response. Um and also um agriculture
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was another one of their issues that
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they wanted to talk about and also um
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their uh department have also taken on
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zebra kaga muscles. So they they know
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that um that I have been involved with
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that for many years with Okonogan Basin
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Water Board and the Okonogan Basin Water
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Board um three of them from uh attended
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the meeting as well. So um uh Mrs.
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Coulson very kindly put out some water
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resource management briefing um notes
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and I have some here for council um for
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them to um to have a look at. um she was
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here and her staff for um an hour and a
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half or so and we had a good
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conversation about about water issues
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and what we're doing um in the town of
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Asuyus to help things and of course
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Okonogan Basin Water Board also um gave
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the gave some information for that one.
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Um I know that it was mentioned this
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morning the [clears throat] Etsy BC
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grant that um destination is Suya Scott.
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Um the new grant application time is
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September 1st to October the 8th 2026.
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So that goes for everybody in the
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Thompson Okonogan and the Columbia
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Coupney region to apply for grants. I
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can provide information on that, but
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there's a lot of information online as
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well. Of course, we've been dealing with
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a lot of of um of water issues um not
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only in the town, but u reducing our our
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um water down to one day a week. It's I
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think it's it's made quite a difference
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to people to think, how am I going to do
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this? Um because you can only water your
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lawns. um once a week. But I do know
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that um Sigree Kendrick, who is the
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Okonogan Zeroscape Association
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um executive director, has pointed out
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that do handwatering
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um with your plants because save those.
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They if your lawn goes golden, that will
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come back at some point. But um make
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sure that you hand water. So, in the
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morning, I've got my bucket and I'm out
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watering my plants and my couple of
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tomato plants. So, um we certainly
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recommend that people take it seriously
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and remember we had um suggested at the
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last meeting that if anybody had any
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good ideas on how to um save water or um
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they should come up with it. So, a
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friend of mine said to me, you know,
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when I get in the shower in the morning,
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I have a bucket in there because I'm not
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ready to step into the shower until it's
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warm enough to get into. So, I save that uh water in your in my bucket and I
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then take it out after. And I thought,
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"Wow, I hadn't thought of that one, but
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that's a good one." I think that the
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other thing is better uses of gray
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water. And we we probably need to put
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that into um into our thinking as well.
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And having rain barrels and I know we've
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had no rain, but um occasionally when we
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do get um uh rain, it's quite easy to
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collect um stuff in a rain barrel. So
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those are all ideas that we need to come
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up with. And um and the other thing that
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I want to mention is the rolling barrage
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which is a coast to coast ride
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motorcyclists um they're come across
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Canada. It's the 10th annual and they're
[1:49:29]
coming to combat uh PTSD and they're
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coming through OSUS on Friday afternoon.
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That's the 21st from 4:00 till 5:15 I
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believe. and they're going to be at what
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I call the husky um the co-op up beside
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the visitors center and um they have
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asked that anybody who would like to
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come out and support them uh please do
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so. So council, if I will certainly be
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there, if any of you want to um to join
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and come out and support these people,
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there are then on their way to Princeton
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and then to Vancouver. But um this is
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being handled by um our fire chief uh
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Chief Cook. And I'm just wondering if
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you could give us a little bit more
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information on this, please.
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>> Uh thank you, Madam Mayor. Actually, you uh you touched on many of the uh the
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main points uh with this ride coming
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through town. Uh what I can add is that
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it's estimated between 150 to 200
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motorcyclists will be entering town on
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along Highway 3 from the east. Uh the
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Soyuse Fire Department, uh we will have
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apparatus on the east side of town to
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welcome everyone in. And then we will
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set up a table uh with an engine. um at
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the uh co-op gas station uh we'll have
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water, Gatorade, uh treats uh and things
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of those nature or of that nature,
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pardon me, for for the writers. Uh there
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is an opportunity for council uh myself
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even uh to meet with the ride organizers
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uh Jim and Steve um who will who are
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leading the uh leading the charge so to
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speak across the country uh where we can
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welcome them to the town and of course
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uh that's where council uh is is
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obviously more than welcome or be great
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to have council there to to welcome the
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group there.
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>> Thank you. So, if anybody uh in the
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community would like to come out and see
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them, um please anybody who wishes to
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please come and uh and stop in and say
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hello to them. Um and certainly council,
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you're um invited as well. So, that's on
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Friday. So, I think that's all of the
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issues that I have today. So I will um
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move to the in camera portion of the
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meeting and that pursuant to section 91
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of the community charter a part of the
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council meeting may be closed to the
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public if the subject matter being
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considered relates to one or more of the
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following. 91K negotiations and related
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discussions respecting the proposed
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provision of a municipal service that
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are at their preliminary stages and that
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in the view of the council could
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reasonably be expected to harm the
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interests of the municipality if they
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were held in public. Could I have a
[1:52:19]
motion to go in camera? Thank you.
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Councelor Puerto Rica. Councelor King.
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All in favor?