[0:02] I want to go ahead and call the meeting to order 601

[0:07] stand

[0:12] to the flag of the United States of America and [snorts] to the republic for

[0:17] it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for

[0:23] all.

[0:26] » Mayor is on her way but she It's going to be a few minutes late

[0:32] and before we do the consent agenda. >> Oh, excuse me. Go ahead. Go ahead.

[0:41] » Gallagher >> here.

[0:43] here. >> Page

[0:45] » here

[0:53] » there's a correction on the personnel agenda

[1:00] before >> I I just I didn't want to waste the

[1:03] paper for for a small change. So on the third line down where it says approve

[1:09] the hire of hiring volunteer firefighter medic Alex Sheldrake.

[1:14] He he is not going to be a volunteer. He is in fact a firefighter medic. So we

[1:19] need to eliminate the the word volunteer and then after his name at $10 per call

[1:24] we need to eliminate that. So it should read approval of hiring of firefire

[1:30] medic Alex Sheldrake pending background check screen.

[1:36] I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda with the modifications.

[1:43] » Second. [snorts]

[1:47] » Any discussion? >> Call.

[1:52] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:54] » Yes. >> Page.

[1:55] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:58] » Yes. >> Yes. [clears throat]

[2:00] » Yes.

[2:03] » Okay. The mayor had comments under her section for sewer rates or sewer funds.

[2:13] There was a letter in everybody's packet talking about this.

[2:19] And in 2016, the board had received from their sewer

[2:25] rate study that we start setting back 600 thou or $60,000 a year designated.

[2:32] It's still reserve funds out of the sewer funds, but saving them

[2:37] specifically for sewer repair and replacement funds. Currently today, we

[2:42] have all of the sewer reserve funds lumped together.

[2:47] [clears throat] And she would like to see

[2:50] $780,000 of the sewer reserve fund, specifically

[2:55] earmarked for the sewer repair and replacement fund. And that would still

[3:00] leave, I think, $600,000

[3:05] or $650,000 in the sewer reserve that could be for

[3:12] salaries or anything else that we would need to take that out of.

[3:17] So, do do you want to wait and talk about this a little more in the finance

[3:23] section, Patrick? Or >> if if it's in the mayor's comments, I'm

[3:28] more than I'm more than happy to entertain it here. Go ahead.

[3:31] » Especially since she's asking for for for changes. Uh we've talked about this

[3:36] before. Um when we were talking about the sewer rates and adjusting the rate

[3:41] for the next uh year, we [snorts] we discussed the cost of replacing and

[3:47] repairing uh the sewer lines. And the only the only difference that we are

[3:53] proposing now is to isolate those funds in a separate account. just kind of take

[4:00] the total amount that we have saved up, dedicate some of them directly to repair

[4:05] and replace and then uh do operational um expenses out of the primary section.

[4:12] » Primary section of reserves. >> Yeah.

[4:16] [clears throat] >> So I'm supportive of it. There's a

[4:18] motion. I'm sorry. >> I was say so this is just creating the

[4:22] new fund and taking the amount from the CDs

[4:27] from the maturing CD and putting in there and then $60,000 at the end of the

[4:32] year. Is that >> right? So everything that's in there now

[4:35] would stay in there but it would be re like essentially renamed. Well, it

[4:40] » a portion of it will be renamed and then we will contribute to that annually so

[4:45] that that grows. And she did comment in here that when this was done in 2016

[4:51] that $60,000 annually was in 2016, not 2026.

[4:58] So, we may need to look at that and adjust up down the road.

[5:04] And I I I feel like I'm sorry. >> Let me just nail this down. Um when we

[5:12] receive the the output from the sewer consultant, from the sewer rate

[5:16] consultant, that will help gauge what our numbers will be going forward and

[5:20] make sure we're on track and we'll adjust if necessary. But that's

[5:24] continuing on with what our last recommendation was is is following what

[5:30] this is. We can use this same structure dedicated RNR operational fund and just

[5:36] adjust the amounts and the and the contribution amount to each one.

[5:41] » Kim, sorry. >> Go ahead and I'll wrap up.

[5:44] » Okay. Um, so I'm understanding correctly, um, these

[5:49] are, um, right now this money is in CDs and the fund we'll be moving it to will

[5:56] not be in CDs or are we going to keep this money in CDs or, you know, kind of

[6:00] broken up within CDs? >> It will be in CDs. It's just designated

[6:04] that this >> this bucket is for

[6:08] just earmarking it, but it's not changing the way that we'll be

[6:12] » interest or anything like that. anything like that.

[6:15] » Thank you. >> So, we only have the Sorry, you were

[6:18] going to >> Yeah, I just wanted to because the mayor

[6:21] stated we're dealing with 2016. So, if we calculated to um current exchange, it

[6:27] would be $83,477.

[6:32] So that might need to be um a topic too of changing the 60,000 to actually meet

[6:38] a 10year um yeah 10 years you know cost [clears throat] adjustment justice and

[6:44] input. >> I think we look at that when we get the

[6:48] full results back from what we're having done currently. But to go off of what

[6:54] was recommended 10 years ago that the board never followed through with this.

[6:59] This will catch us up to at least have money earmarked because as you can see

[7:04] by the picture that Trump left on our desk that there's a sewer line issue

[7:09] right now. It's not leaking or anything but it potentially could be. So we just

[7:15] earmarking those monies. >> So just so I understand correctly. So we

[7:20] have 719,000. That's the total in the funded right

[7:26] now. Or is that not? >> No, that's

[7:28] » that's just in the CDs. >> She she text

[7:32] the dollar figure.

[7:36] » I think it'll leave about 600,000 because right now there's like 1.5

[7:42] million or something reserve. >> Yeah. So, we're taking just over half of

[7:47] it and earmarking it for repair and replacement. And

[7:52] » oh, so you're saying the 1.1 whatever million is in CDs? It is. Okay. Only 720

[7:59] 780 >> 719,000

[8:04] » 780 designated for sewer repair. >> Okay. So, she wants to designate that

[8:08] immediately. >> I thought she was saying 720 and then

[8:12] 60,000 in December. Okay. >> And also, I mean, during that

[8:16] discussion, I think we should also make sure that we're padded for inflation

[8:21] moving forward. Um, and that um we can earmark it and and modify it if need be,

[8:29] if there are any other emergencies that may pop up.

[8:32] » Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And I know we'll address it when we start looking at the

[8:37] budget for next year so that we can appropriately

[8:40] move the correct amount. If I could just share a couple some

[8:46] numbers with you. In 15 years, we've spent u around 80,000

[8:53] on repairs. Um

[8:58] Ron and I are we're calculating

[9:02] if you were to replace the whole sewer system in the city,

[9:08] you'd be talking about like 16 to 20 billion.

[9:12] » Um You have to keep in mind with that what drives the cost drastically on that

[9:17] is a number of our sewers are underpavement and under sidewalk.

[9:23] [cough and clears throat] So you're not just digging in and replacing those

[9:26] straight sewer pipe, you're replacing concrete and asphalt. Uh and then we

[9:31] have a number of our sewer [snorts] line systems that are

[9:38] off road and very awkward to get at in the woods on

[9:43] the street. [clears throat] So you got that comes.

[9:51] So, I would entertain a motion if somebody wanted to make it to make

[9:57] this change in the reserves.

[10:02] » Yeah. I move that we designate uh 780,000

[10:07] to a dedicated sewer repair replacement fund

[10:13] as they become due in the the end. >> Second.

[10:20] Any further discussion?

[10:26] » Call roll. >> Gallagher.

[10:27] » Yes. >> Caligan.

[10:28] » Yes. >> Yes.

[10:30] » Paige, >> yes.

[10:31] » Scarboard, >> yes.

[10:32] » Showers, >> yes.

[10:34] » Olson, >> yes.

[10:35] » Freeman, >> yes.

[10:37] » Very good. Thank you. And no city attorney here.

[10:43] Madam Mayor, you ready to take the chair?

[10:46] » I'm ready. If you're at a place where we can

[10:49] » Yep. We're getting ready to start public comments. So,

[11:00] [laughter] >> thank you very much. Yeah.

[11:18] All right.

[11:24] Thank you. All right.

[11:27] Uh, Pleasant Valley Firefighters Association Ground Zero Display.

[11:34] Oh, good. I sound so official [laughter] just to trick us.

[11:39] » Right. Okay. So, as you guys are aware, um, we have our 911 memorial um, in

[11:44] place now. We added a piece two years ago, I think it was. I lost track of

[11:48] time. I apologize. Um, we currently have, and I was going to print these

[11:53] off, it didn't happen. Sorry. So, I have them in a picture. I'll show you. We

[11:57] currently have um a couple of large twisted pieces of steel

[12:04] left that we've sat as an association and discuss on how can we get these out

[12:09] front and display them versus sitting up in our mezzanine. So I'll show you guys

[12:13] this photo if you want to look at that pass around and I'll show you the area

[12:17] where we're thinking and what we want to do. As you'll see, they are large,

[12:22] lengthy, uh, twisted rebar, angle iron. Um, and it mainly why they didn't go

[12:28] inside the towers is they wouldn't fit safely or sizewise. So, um, the

[12:34] association has gotten together and we've come up with the idea of outside

[12:37] of chief's um, window on the front entrance way. So, the sidewalk does this

[12:43] and then we have the pavers that leads to the memorial. There's some bushes

[12:47] like this and then there's a big empty space. And I was just talking to Chris.

[12:51] He's going to verify that it would be okay to do what we want to do there. Um

[12:55] to uh pour a concrete pad approximately this space is right where I took that

[13:02] picture. Um in the black mulch about 4T by six foot and lightly cover it with

[13:09] some mulch so you don't really see the concrete pad like we did with the touch

[13:12] and feel piece of history. And then we've got a couple of kings to work on

[13:16] how we're going to actually anchor it to the concrete versus whether we use I've

[13:20] looked at some things like they use for pool decks and where they'll screw in an

[13:23] anchor and use a special tool. Um we really haven't had an issue with anybody

[13:28] messing with the memorial and any of the metal. So I'm not too concerned with it,

[13:31] but we will try to take um matters to make sure they're not sticky fingers to

[13:36] any means. But we like to place that metal like it's shown on a pad of

[13:41] concrete in this space right outside of Chief's window um anchored to the ground

[13:46] with a plaque similar to the one that is on the I-beam that you can touch out

[13:51] front that just has 343 represents just the firefighters side of things as the

[13:56] entrance to our uh station. Um that is what we've come up with. I I know we've

[14:02] kind of had a rolling, you know, kind of work with it project. this will be the

[14:05] last little bit that needs to be on display. Um, and we're just kind of

[14:09] looking for your input, thoughts, um, care, don't care. Um, but we just feel

[14:15] bad that it's still sitting upstairs now 10 years. I mean, we've got a lot out

[14:19] there, but you know, upstairs not being on display for us to remember that. And

[14:24] our goal is to hopefully get this done before this year's memorial so it's on

[14:28] display whether we have the plaque or not, but to have the metal at least

[14:32] mounted out into the into the the U landscaping there. Um, pending whether

[14:37] when Chris reviews there's nothing there. We don't think there is, but

[14:40] we'll double check before we go because we're not going to put anything but like

[14:44] a 4 inch or a three and a half inch pad. Um, that's 4 foot by six foot. Just big

[14:49] enough so the steel sits on it. And then, like I said, we'll recover it with

[14:53] the mulch. So, it'll look just like the landscaping except the metal will be

[14:56] there with a sign. So, >> I do have a question. Are these um still

[15:00] pieces associated with the 911? >> Yes, they're actual steel, structural

[15:05] steel that was given to us by the port authority back in like 201

[15:11] 15 when uh the Robert Stinson, the old chief had uh applied for it that him and

[15:17] his son drove down. Um, so that's why we're wanting to make sure we

[15:21] incorporate it according to the agreement that was made with the Port

[15:24] Authority and um, Chief Stson at the time. So, but they're so

[15:30] twisted and hard up. We're like, man, what can we do with them? And it's going

[15:35] to be kind of hard to put them in like different places and so we're just this

[15:38] is what we come up with. We've kind of been pondering it over the year or so.

[15:42] Um Chris and I went up and twisted and turned and flipped the metal and kind of

[15:46] like our goal is to make it look like a nine. There's a piece of steel and

[15:50] another one that when they're set just right, it looks like a nine. So, um just

[15:54] kind of some sort of resemblance because it's it's how it came down. It's how it

[15:58] was picked out of the the wreckage from that day. So, um that's what we'd like

[16:04] to do that what we were hoping. I don't know if we need a motion or an okay or

[16:08] what. Um last time we started the project we came to the board and I mean

[16:12] [clears throat] it was a lot bigger project and we did that but um we wanted

[16:15] to make sure everybody's city was included in it since it's on the fire

[16:19] department property and I mean we act like we run this place but yeah

[16:23] [laughter] um so if you guys have any input

[16:26] questions I know the next um association meeting is September

[16:32] whatever the first two Tuesday of next I think. Yeah, September 1st. Um, if we

[16:37] have approval from you guys, um, we we may just go ahead and start on getting

[16:41] the concrete poured this weekend because, like I said, we want to try to

[16:44] get it in before the 11th, which is all things in fashion with this whole

[16:48] project since we started is like few weeks or days before the moral. It's in

[16:52] and done. Looks beautiful. >> Yeah.

[16:54] » So, um, that's kind of just how it's went. Um but uh if not then it'll be put

[16:59] in after the 11th because we don't want to stir up a whole bunch of mess before

[17:03] the the 11th. So >> okay. Um you do you do need a motion

[17:09] since it's on city property. So um

[17:15] I'd entertain a motion. I'll make a motion that the city allow the fire

[17:21] department >> association

[17:22] » the fire association >> association

[17:25] » along with our firefighters [clears throat] to continue with this

[17:29] memorial to complete using the material we were given.

[17:33] » Okay.

[17:36] » [laughter]

[17:39] » Is there any other discussion questions about this?

[17:46] » Dean. >> Yeah, it'll be a plaque. That'll be the

[17:50] black with the steel that says just 343. As simple as that. Nothing more

[17:55] elaborate, but to remember as you enter the the facility, you know, this the

[17:59] medalist remind us every day of how things changed and what happened on that

[18:03] day. So, it'll just be a 343 plaque that will be placed. So,

[18:08] » um, just as a question, I I'm not sure I don't I don't know if I was here when

[18:15] this project was Yeah. kind of started. >> I think you live in the city. I don't

[18:18] think you it was long. >> Um, but is there anything else that they

[18:23] will need from the board as far as like budget or anything like that? Um when we

[18:29] first started, even prior to my involvement, the the association had um

[18:34] fundraised t-shirts, coins, we still sell coins to support the maintenance

[18:38] and routine use, you know, or not use, but painting and you know, mulch, you

[18:44] know, when we can't beg it out of Chris, [laughter]

[18:47] but um to maintain it. Um we have the funds currently to buy the couple bags

[18:53] of concrete. I was going to talk to Chris about maybe borrowing some of the

[18:56] concrete stakes because I've got lumber. Um, we've been really blessed the whole

[19:00] project where the community's kind of heard about it. The firefighters, the

[19:04] chiefs have heard about it. Matter of fact, the day we poured the new pad for

[19:08] the sign that's on the corner because the poles busted over a really, really

[19:12] strong winter. It didn't move a spring summer day, it just kind of fell over.

[19:16] We poured a new concrete pad. I had two chiefs out there helping me dig it up.

[19:19] And then I had to go to work and two of Chris's guys actually happened to be

[19:23] able to meet Northwind because they're like, "Hey, when we get a little extra

[19:26] concrete, we'll just come up and dump it." And was it Randy or it was the

[19:30] older guy that used to work for you, >> right?

[19:33] » Rodney and his partner actually went up and finished the concrete because I

[19:36] couldn't get back when the concrete was coming. So, like, it's been a really

[19:39] group effort from everybody um to do it. So, we like we said, we're we're

[19:44] constantly just trying to make sure we put our best efforts for that. So

[19:48] » awesome. >> Um we actually I don't know if Chief's

[19:51] going to talk about it, but last week um Chief Kudson, myself, um Chris Grant and

[19:56] the duty crew was interviewed by uh another news station,

[20:01] » PBS channel 19. Yeah, PBS um a newspaper and he's going to be doing an article um

[20:06] on it um that he's been doing around because he went to the

[20:10] uh memorial that they had down at Liberty uh memorial with a big traveling

[20:16] beam that they had on display where KCFD and a lot of others got together two

[20:21] weeks ago I think it was and so someone had mentioned hey have you seen Pleasant

[20:24] Valley's memorial and and so he contacted got information we got

[20:29] together and sit down so um so we're just looking continue that that J

[20:33] because one of his biggest questions is to us is do we feel that society and

[20:38] generations are slowly forgetting about 911 and yeah it is so this is kind of

[20:43] our push to continue to uh integrate this I don't know if we'll get any

[20:47] scouts involved in this little project that we have I don't know what Chris

[20:51] Grant has up his sleeve some days he like like hey by the way I'm like okay

[20:55] cool but at this point this will just be something that we'll try to get done

[20:59] just because of the time frame So, but it'll get the rest of that steel um put

[21:04] put out on display. So, >> okay. Any other questions?

[21:10] » All right. Call the RO. >> Caligan,

[21:12] » yes. >> Caligan,

[21:13] » yes. >> Yes.

[21:14] » Paige, >> yes.

[21:15] » Scar, >> yes.

[21:17] » Showers, >> yes.

[21:18] » Yes. >> Yes.

[21:21] » Okay.

[21:25] » [snorts]

[21:27] » Any other public comments that I don't have in front of me?

[21:34] » Alderman comments.

[21:39] Old business.

[21:43] » Okay. Administration. U had had a written report. The only two

[21:48] items um that may require discussion are also on the agenda later as ordinances

[21:57] the uh sewer rate study and the new copier agreement. So if anybody has

[22:03] questions about that they can ask them now or when they come forward as

[22:07] ordinances.

[22:12] » What about the property tax hearing? Is that scheduled?

[22:16] » It's not scheduled because I don't have I don't have the I don't have the

[22:20] information. I mean, we can we can schedule it, but I I hesitate to

[22:25] schedule it until I have the information.

[22:28] » Well, I just I don't want to get in the jam, not have enough time to get it

[22:32] properly posted before the hearing. >> Lots of times we have to have a special

[22:37] election or a special council meeting in order to get this accomplished. So,

[22:43] » okay. So, long as it stays on. >> Oh, yes.

[22:47] So the information that we're waiting on is in that sentence that says the notice

[22:52] for the hearing must include the assessed valuation by category of real

[22:56] personal and other tangible property, the amount of revenue required to be

[23:00] provided from the property taxes set forth in the annual budget. Tax rates

[23:04] proposed to be set for the various purposes of taxation. The increase in

[23:07] tax revenue due to an increase in assessed value as a result of new

[23:11] construction and improvement and the increase both in dollar value and

[23:14] percentage. That's that block that was a lot longer sentence than I thought it

[23:18] was going to be. Start with [laughter] that that block is what we're awaiting

[23:22] information on. Correct. >> Who are we waiting that on that

[23:26] information from? The county. Do they have any timetable to give it to us or

[23:32] just sometime before September 1st? >> They they always give it in, but it is

[23:38] almost always in my experience is almost always estimates a special. So, so what

[23:44] you're saying is be prepared for a lastm minute

[23:48] » special board meeting before September 1st.

[23:51] » Okay.

[23:54] » It's not, you know, it's not. [snorts] [laughter]

[23:59] » That's the only question I have. Thank you.

[24:01] » Sorry. Okay,

[24:06] that's it. >> That was simple question.

[24:08] » Fire department. Simple. >> Simple. Hey, [laughter]

[24:15] » you make up then. >> So, yeah, I did provide a

[24:21] report for this uh meeting. Um, you have questions on that.

[24:30] If not, uh, I'm sure you're probably aware we did have a houseire on Bren

[24:36] Lane, uh, over the weekend. Um I will provide a report for that uh uh when all

[24:47] of it when it's all completed and so either next meeting or the meeting after

[24:51] when I do my board report that that uh information will be available for you on

[24:57] that. >> Was that just contained to that one

[25:00] house? >> Yes.

[25:01] » Okay. But it was it was it was it was significant. Didn't get into the the

[25:08] attic. If you driven by there, you know, you

[25:12] know, there's there's a hole in the roof. So,

[25:18] I mean, it was definitely significant damage. I'm sure the house might be

[25:25] passed today and they're trying to get everything out in the yard out way.

[25:33] Well, and and you know the smoke ruins everything. So,

[25:38] » how many um police department or fire departments responded to that?

[25:43] » So, we had Clay on the initial. We also had Kansas City. Um,

[25:51] and >> I I was actually I was out of town, so I

[25:55] did not make it, but it was just

[26:00] » Were there people inside at that point? >> The homeowner was attempting to

[26:06] extinguish it with a garden hose. >> Oh, okay.

[26:08] » So, uh, again, I'll I'll have everything uh

[26:12] » All right. [clears throat] spelled out for you.

[26:16] Yeah. So, there was there was an issue with uh with ammunition in in the

[26:21] residence. So, it was it was a interesting fire.

[26:29] » No injuries. No injuries that

[26:39] » great. Thank you. >> Oh, I do have one. So, uh uh not at 911.

[26:46] So, we are planning on doing a ceremony on that day. So, that's Friday morning.

[26:52] Uh I'm going to say 9:00 is our start time.

[26:57] I think that's what we did last year, but I'll I'll send something out. Uh I

[27:02] would uh invite the uh board to attend. Um it's a it's a short uh it's a short

[27:10] uh ceremony. We'll retire that flag that's flown over the memorial for the

[27:16] year and and put up new.

[27:21] » Yes,

[27:27] » thank you.

[27:32] » Jennifer, is it sorry is it your feeling that we will have um news media there?

[27:39] there's a strong possibility, especially being the 25th anniversary. Um, I can't

[27:45] think of a year we haven't had some sort of news coverage um come in and and do

[27:50] some speed uh pieces with us. So, >> so it's probably a good thing to

[27:55] encourage uh residents to come up as well.

[27:59] » Yeah, >> we'll we will make that happen.

[28:02] » I will I will put it in the flyer. >> Okay. and we'll probably ask this um

[28:07] civic center to put it on the board. So >> that'll be fun.

[28:11] » And just to clarify the time, I think since the last bell ring event is at

[28:16] 9:27 central time, I think we are starting at

[28:20] 9:30.

[28:24] » All right, Jared, you're next.

[28:28] » Okay,

[28:31] » your turn.

[28:34] uh provided you with the car report in your packet and pretty busy month.

[28:41] Any questions on that? Okay. Uh you saw that in finance we got

[28:49] some grant reimbursement coming. I was also just notified that we received the

[28:53] 2027 MODOT grant. uh that will be $7,000 for

[29:00] reimbursement for officer over time to enforce traffic. So that's another

[29:05] overtime possibility for officer to get. Um and then

[29:13] um I know flock was brought up at the last meeting.

[29:18] Um, so I was going to provide some information for you. Uh, but a lot of it

[29:23] is in the packet, including our um, our policy, some um, features that we do or

[29:31] don't have

[29:35] and also the Flock contract that we signed and the terms and conditions. a

[29:41] couple of stuff from Flock website that kind of

[29:47] explain um what Flock system does, their

[29:51] operating system, retention periods. Um but I'll also hit on it um a little bit

[29:56] myself. Um, first I think there's

[30:03] society as a whole has come to read something on the internet and take it as

[30:11] truth in the gospel and and run with it without ever scrutinizing it or seeing

[30:18] if there's any truth to it whatsoever. And I think a lot of this where it's

[30:22] coming from um is people that don't know the truth or what actually flock does.

[30:28] » [clears throat] >> Um, they don't use facial recognition.

[30:32] They don't have Bluetooth. They're not listening in our conversations. They

[30:37] don't take live stream video. We can't log in there and because a lot of them

[30:41] um are put near like daycare centers or parks or whatever. We can't log in there

[30:47] and see a live screen shot and watch the kids play. Um,

[30:52] » sorry. I apologize right there. >> My intention is not to not to pause you

[30:57] over time, but that that's a it's a key sentence there.

[31:00] » Um the the research that's been done show that the official accessing methods

[31:08] do not allow for live streaming. However, there are instances where those

[31:13] live streams can be obtained through security vulnerabilities that have not

[31:18] been patched within the system. you talking from law enforcement agencies or

[31:22] not from from third parties. >> Okay. So they hack into the system.

[31:25] » Yes. Okay. Yes. >> Yeah. There there's been data breaches.

[31:27] Um any technology can have a data breach. Um so they obviously need to

[31:33] improve their software. So it's harder to do that. Um it's the same way with

[31:38] with the argument that officers are going to abuse the system. That can

[31:42] happen. I can go downstairs and abuse the systems we have right now. It

[31:45] doesn't mean I'm going to do it. Um, and we need to hold those people accountable

[31:50] that do that. Um, and and I think we will. Um, [clears throat] but it's not

[31:56] going to happen. So, uh, another big one is is they're

[32:01] selling our data to big surveillance companies. Um, Flock says it's not. I

[32:07] have no proof that says that they are. Um,

[32:12] we own our own data. It's stored on their servers. it gets deleted after 30

[32:16] days. Um, Flock actually just came out with a new security deal where they're

[32:20] going to recommend [clears throat] and set it to 7 days. We will go along with

[32:24] that. We're going to change ours to 7 days. Um, right now we share with 143

[32:31] agencies in the state of Missouri. Um, we have restricted uh searches into our

[32:36] data um to agencies in the state of Missouri. So, nobody from outside the

[32:41] state can search our data. Um,

[32:47] to access the system, you have to have dual authentication. You log in, it

[32:51] sends a a thing to my phone where I have to prove it's me and put in a code. I

[32:55] log in and then it has a notice of to yourself that you're accessing possible

[33:02] CJS information and you're to use it appropriately per policy by law. Um,

[33:10] so recently in the LA since March, um, we've used it to identify a shooting

[33:16] suspect. Um, stolen auto that actually Clay Como picked up and pursued it and

[33:22] and arrested a driver. Um, a hit and run accident. um we identified the suspect

[33:28] two weekends ago and then we had a felony domestic assault with the ramming

[33:34] of the vehicle and that's how we caught it and figured out who it was and it

[33:38] showed really great evidence um to help prosecute him with two felonies. Um so

[33:44] it is good that it is a tool that lets us develop leads with very limited

[33:50] information leads that we wouldn't have unless we had the lock system. It's a

[33:56] tool on our duty belt that we can wear and use um

[34:01] legally. Um and I don't believe it is a violation of

[34:07] the Fourth Amendment. You're driving on a public roadway. The license plate

[34:12] that's on your car belongs to the state of Missouri, not you. I don't know if

[34:15] you knew that or not. The driver's license that you carry belongs to the

[34:18] state of Missouri. Okay? That's why we can take those things from you when you

[34:22] violate it all. when you when you get a PWI and you don't want to blow in the

[34:26] breath for us, we take your license and send it back to the state of Missouri.

[34:31] So, I think there's a lot of stuff going around that is just

[34:36] being blown away out of proportion the system. Is there a possibility that this

[34:41] could be misused and them doing something with our our data that we

[34:45] don't know about? Of course. But if if they do that and it gets leaked, this

[34:50] business has done it and it will get leaked at some point as they're doing

[34:54] it. So I don't I don't see a reason, if you were even thinking about it, to um

[35:00] get rid of this contract or get rid of the license plate readers. I think it's

[35:04] a great tool. Um that's obviously going to be your decision.

[35:09] You're the board. Um I'm not for that and I'll stand by it until I find out

[35:14] otherwise. Um, how do you have how many instances

[35:18] we have used the license plate? >> Yeah. Uh, so like I said, our data gets

[35:23] deleted after 30 days. So I did a 30-day search.

[35:27] I think we used it we searched 32 times. No, 52 times

[35:34] » in a month. >> In a month. And I believe it was 34 of

[35:38] those searches were for three different cases. So bulk of them were just for

[35:41] those three cases. we switched up how we searched the vehicle multiple times and

[35:46] and so most of them was for three days so we don't use it very often. Um now

[35:52] ours before we switched it to just the state of Missouri our network because

[35:57] they're all intertwined. So let's say sheriff's office out of Texas wants

[36:02] access to our stuff we deny or accept them. So once they do a search and they

[36:07] search all of their agencies they've shared data with it hits on ours. So,

[36:12] they're not specifically looking at ours. It's just searching the network

[36:15] that they're tied in with. Um, but it was used quite a bit and I don't have

[36:19] that number in front of me. If I believe it's 10 or somewhere, but it it was a

[36:22] lot. I'm talking like 500,000. Um, but that's nationwide. And you got

[36:29] to think there's 570,000 law enforcement officers in this

[36:34] country. So, that's less than one per officer per month.

[36:40] Where are our cameras at again? [snorts] >> Well, we still don't have one up. That's

[36:44] another thing. Um, so Flock is um not going to charge us this year and I

[36:49] haven't seen a bill for this year, but um there's one going at 69 highway by

[36:55] Rava. There's one at North Church and 76

[37:00] Street. There's one right in front of Quick Trip. And there's one on close

[37:07] together. Is that five?

[37:12] » We will have five. Right now we have four.

[37:15] » And what's happening with the the fifth one? We don't have the equipment yet.

[37:21] » Well, that was the longest piece. And now MDOT has changed the way they've

[37:26] done these request. So a guy's called me like two or three different times says

[37:31] he's coming out to do the inspection because you got to market and do all

[37:34] that stuff and I never hear back from him. It's never been in place. So

[37:40] » from an HR standpoint does everybody who has access to flock in your department

[37:46] and any other department is there a policy as far as the ramifications for

[37:51] misuse? Um there is when you sign a C just um

[37:58] notification I guess or or usage agreement I guess with C just when you

[38:03] when you get your mules access um you you do sign something that I mean if

[38:07] it's a felony you can get thrown in jail.

[38:10] » So that covers any >> any access to this information. We also

[38:16] have a a a alpr policy. I don't think it necessarily states in there

[38:24] um what could happen.

[38:35] » You should have put tabs on yourself. I know

[38:43] kind of ALPR information gathered and retained by this department may be used

[38:46] and shared with prosecutors or other others only as per law.

[38:54] Uh one thing our policy needs to be buffed out and Mr. Galler pointed this

[38:59] out that um all it says in our audit about audits says our policy about

[39:07] audits uh is says they should be conducted on a regular basis.

[39:12] » That probably beefed up a little bit. Um I'll probably change that to be once a

[39:17] month. So first a month I'll just run an audit and see what activity we have on

[39:22] there. near the gap in

[39:28] um all of our officers do have access to this. Um and our dispatch supervisor,

[39:34] the other dispatchers do not. So on that on that vein, I I would like

[39:42] to see a [snorts] standardized format that we follow whereby we look

[39:48] pulling an audit report off the system, I don't think goes far enough.

[39:54] tying those individual queries to a case, making sure that they're relevant

[39:59] to the case that they're actually tied to that case, timely, relevant. um I

[40:05] think is is is important because use of the system can be

[40:13] I'm not gonna say fudged but if it asks for a case number you can put a case

[40:18] number in but then determining whether that query was relevant I think is

[40:21] really important to to help ensure that the queries are actually relevant to

[40:25] that case and so having I think your policy says the the patrol captain uh

[40:30] performing this um using a standardized form whereby they they look through

[40:36] through the autolog determining who, what, where, when, and why the the big

[40:42] questions and then ensuring that they are relevant to each individual case.

[40:47] You said it was three cases for the last 52 or 30 days, 52 searches. Um, it

[40:54] shouldn't be that that difficult. I do appreciate that you're they're going to

[41:00] recommend doing it on on a monthly basis. That's a good cadence. Um, and

[41:04] then it's just the end of that audit is kind of a verification of yes, our use

[41:09] of the block system, our officer's use of the system has been consistent with

[41:14] policies, it has been relevant to cases, stuff like that. Is that is that the is

[41:19] that your goal for that audit? >> I mean, it's it sounds very intensive to

[41:25] me. Um, all this is doing is taking a picture of

[41:30] a car and a license plate. It's not taking a picture of the person. It's not

[41:34] searching the person. The system does nothing besides take a picture until we

[41:38] tell it to do something. And then all it does is pull up that picture and give a

[41:43] date and time and location. That's all it does. It's not taking a picture and

[41:49] tracking where you're going out to eat or where you're going to church or

[41:53] anything like that. It takes a picture of your car on public road. So, I mean,

[41:59] I guess we can if that's what your request is. Um, but to me, it seems very

[42:05] I don't want to say waste of time because like you said, I mean, it can be

[42:09] misused >> and and it has been like there there

[42:13] there's been over what 20 cases of law enforcement officers around the nation

[42:19] who have used the search function in nonrelevant non-law enforcement. It

[42:24] hasn't been >> I don't know.

[42:28] » I guarantee you there's probably two or three times that have been arrested for

[42:32] whatever reason doing other things on our systems that they weren't supposed

[42:36] to in the same amount of time, but you're not hearing about why.

[42:41] But why why this all of a sudden? >> All I'm saying is that any system that

[42:47] can that contain CGI just like mules mules is very regulated. This also needs

[42:52] to be regulated. And I think that's the level of an audit that we do require of

[42:58] a system that that we use. Not that it takes our pictures. I don't care about

[43:03] my data. I care about how others could use that data to paint a picture of a

[43:09] person's habits of a person's destinations of their their habits. It's

[43:15] it's how the system is used on people that not how flock use it. That's a

[43:22] that's a bigger question. We're not going to figure out the answer

[43:26] as you know put on Pleasant Valley. Don't don't take don't take those words

[43:30] wrong. We're not Kansas City. We we're we're a fairly small department with

[43:34] five cameras. And I want to make sure that our officers are using the tools in

[43:37] the right way. We're not teasing people's faces.

[43:41] We are using the ALPRs in a way that is consistent with our policies. And an

[43:46] audit, I think, is really important to make sure that that commitment is being

[43:50] upheld. It might take some time. It takes some effort. But tying queries to

[43:56] active cases or closed cases, I think is really important.

[44:01] » What available fields are there in the software for inputs, notes, that sort of

[44:06] thing. If there's anything I don't >> say anything about car uh color um make

[44:12] model license plate um if there's any I think there's an open one you could type

[44:18] in like it has a can't say royal sticker in the back or the bottom right window

[44:25] that's that's you put it out anything you want it's like as detailed as the

[44:29] color is. So putting something pretty simple like this is the case and this is

[44:35] why I'm looking at this specific one would that kind of

[44:41] » like a journal entry. So, so the case numbers are there. That's not the

[44:45] question. >> A little bit more,

[44:46] » but it's it's it's on a on a regular basis. Once once you have the

[44:51] operational distance from the case, you're you're not stopping to do an

[44:55] audit in the middle of of a of a police chase.

[45:01] Within the month, you're you're going back to that case, hit and run. Hey, we

[45:07] we we got out. We talked to the guys who were involved. said it was a 2005 red

[45:12] cander with license plate that ends in XYZ.

[45:15] » So it's it's the Y portion of who, what, where, when, and why.

[45:20] » Yeah. And and having a a supervisory level person go to that case and say,

[45:27] "Yes, this query for a red Camry is relevant. Yes, this query for the ending

[45:33] of a license plate was relevant to it because that person on scene said this."

[45:38] tying all of those queries back to the relevance and not surreptitiously

[45:42] throwing in, oh, I'm going to call this a search off of this case number, but

[45:47] it's actually for 2002 Dodge Caravan that my wife's driving. You get what I'm

[45:52] saying? >> Okay. I don't want Pleasant Valley to I

[45:56] It's a tool. It can be used with responsibility. I don't want it to be on

[46:01] yet another list of law enforcement officers misusing it.

[46:05] » So, Chief, I have several questions. one with this um when you pull the

[46:10] information um does it automatically like give you

[46:14] like a title and you can add your comments or something like that or like

[46:18] you just said >> when you do the search

[46:20] » yeah when you do the search can you do what I'm thinking I'm thinking you could

[46:24] have a field so to not make additional work that's what I hear you don't want

[46:30] the extra work when you're trying to protect the city but if there's some way

[46:35] I don't know if can do it just add like officer this time x y and z and then you

[46:40] could type it in right then just an idea. Um and then I had a question about

[46:46] um your email that was sent from flock on August 13, 2026. You mentioned um

[46:53] uh the Okay. Today we are updating our recommendation and default to a 7-day

[46:58] retention and introducing evidence mode. And since um your your goal and what I

[47:04] heard and let me know if I've I've understood what you're what you're going

[47:09] to do, you're going to do an audit once a month. But I guess my question if it's

[47:14] only a 7-day retention, how would you do an audit once a month? I I just want to

[47:19] make sure I understood. >> Yeah. I guess yeah, if we left it to 30

[47:24] days, I mean, you would have to do it every week if you would do seven days.

[47:27] » Yeah. um that evidence dealer talking about from what I understand and I

[47:31] haven't seen it yet is [clears throat] it's kind of like what you do with our

[47:34] body cameras or or incar cameras you can lock it so when a retention period comes

[47:39] out it doesn't delete it so like a DWI that we want to say for you know five

[47:43] years it doesn't ever delete until that fiveyear retention is um a normal

[47:49] warning traffic stop deletes every every 30 days

[47:52] » so is there any way you could confirm that how that works so that when the

[47:58] simple mention implementation of the 7-day retention, you have that

[48:03] option that you mentioned. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're not going to

[48:05] change it to seven until we are positive and everything in mind

[48:10] » and that's what we want to do, but that's that's what I'm looking to go to.

[48:16] » Speaking of data retention, so the the the data retention is not for audit

[48:21] data. It's not it's not a log data. We're not they're not going to delete

[48:25] queries log data after 7 days, but the image of the vehicle, the the detection

[48:30] of the vehicle, if it's not flagged in a case or not downloaded to our server, it

[48:36] would expire after 7 days. But if a search was conducted on that vehicle or

[48:41] on that VIN or not a VIN, but on that license plate,

[48:45] then the record of it lives way longer than the seven days.

[48:49] » That's not what I've found out. >> That's where When I can only do my

[48:53] search >> this search.

[48:55] » When I can only do my search for what was searched

[48:59] » for 30 days. >> That's scary. Okay. Yeah. Let's let's do

[49:02] some research. >> Yeah. We need to do some research and so

[49:05] that as the chief and and leader of the police department that we know and and

[49:11] we know how to support you, how to move forward. I think that'd be really good

[49:16] to know what what's going on with that. >> Because Kansas City is much larger than

[49:22] us, would they not have more access to

[49:29] information regarding all of this? >> I don't think so. as far as like the

[49:35] retention period and stuff. >> That's all the questions that we're

[49:39] asking. >> Um,

[49:42] » um, I would start I would start there. Kansas City is not one on the rules.

[49:48] » Yeah. >> Any other city? Kansas City does not

[49:51] follow most rules. >> I don't know if they have flock. I think

[49:54] they were getting them, but I don't know if they've been implemented yet. Why is

[49:57] that? >> So is there like

[50:01] » blue springs?

[50:05] » Everybody around here, >> but they're still smaller as small as us

[50:10] kind of. Would a cult St. Louis benefit us?

[50:14] » I don't think St. Louis is going to be any better than Kansas City probably.

[50:19] Well, >> well, I guess I

[50:23] » follow up on first what the mayor was just saying. I I don't feel that we have

[50:28] any lack of information. Like there's nothing that we don't seem to have

[50:34] access to. So like I'm not quite sure what St. Louis or Kansas City like what

[50:38] kind of information like we have all of the policy, all of their standard

[50:42] practice, our standard practice. So, um I I don't see

[50:46] » Well, for example, if we want to go from 30 days to 7 days

[50:51] » and we want to be able to keep that retention for seven days, is there

[50:56] something out there that will allow us to do that or is that being checked in

[51:02] the background and they haven't brought it forward? That's what I'm looking for.

[51:07] » I would think, sorry, >> I assume that'd be a flop question.

[51:10] » That was exactly what I was going to say. I think those questions would

[51:12] probably be best um for Flock and for the company. So if we say we want to do

[51:18] an audit for 30 days but only retain the data for 7 days, is that something that

[51:22] you can do? How and I think that would be more of a

[51:25] » because Spock would be able to tell us what their system is capable of. Yeah,

[51:30] » that's what I was getting at with the statements from the email that we need

[51:34] to do some more research and ask questions that pertain um for data

[51:39] management as well as if there's a way that you can add comments. So, when

[51:44] you're doing your search, you don't have to come back and do an audit because you

[51:48] already have the police officer's name, the date, the the five questions that I

[51:53] usually asked. But I think if you if you do the comment section, you're still

[51:57] going to run back to it. >> I mean, somebody just put in still lie

[52:00] about it. You know, >> and I got to go back. I think I think to

[52:05] addressing um a followup for what Pat said um about

[52:12] what our audit looks like of this system and what he kind of mentioned as kind of

[52:17] beefing up that audit. And then I think I kind of agree with where the chief is

[52:22] at. Maybe it makes sense for us to look at what are the current systems we have

[52:26] in place for auditing other systems that our city or police use because I think

[52:33] what's feels unfair right now is that we have tons of systems in place where we

[52:38] have data is stored on servers. That's part of the nature of digitizing like

[52:44] now city records are kept digitally. people can then hack that information

[52:48] and access people's private information, but that's the nature of things move to

[52:53] digital rather than just paper copies. And there's securities in that too

[52:56] because people can come and steal paper copies as well. So I mean um I think

[53:01] maybe the greater question here is not just hey block this has a lot of

[53:04] attention so let's add this crazy audit process for this one system that we use

[53:09] but then it's not it's not anywhere near the

[53:13] auditing that we do for other systems. like why why is it that this one system

[53:17] just because of attention in media or internet is now having us spend tons of

[53:22] hours on auditing and whatever it is where I think it probably makes sense

[53:26] for us to kind of mirror policies that are already in place for other systems.

[53:31] I don't know if you know there is a difference in obviously this system

[53:34] versus other systems that we have but maybe that's a good place to start so we

[53:38] can kind of mirror policy rather than like let's make an entirely new process

[53:44] for this level of of um data what would that be called retention versus other

[53:53] data retention that we have in place already.

[53:56] So I mean another thing going on if there are already systems that

[54:02] complement block or anything else that we're using and it could be attached to

[54:08] a system that's already in our infrastructure. That could be one way of

[54:13] resolving it. And I don't know it and that could be a question that you could

[54:16] ask Flock. Is there any integrated software that could work with their

[54:20] system with your current um system? Yeah, Flet right now is a standalone.

[54:26] You can do add-ons like I think I put in there copies of add-ons you could do.

[54:32] » Um I don't think our RMS system was one of them.

[54:36] » Okay.

[54:43] » Anything else? On a flock good note, several years ago,

[54:48] I had a family member member with dementia get a hold of car keys and take

[54:54] off in a car and flock wasn't as widely used as it is now. I mean, there weren't

[54:58] as many systems up, but it directed us to path to look for this family member.

[55:04] » Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's lots of of feel-good stories out there about flock.

[55:08] Uh last week, Beloo Springs, I believe, found a um an Amber Alert.

[55:15] suspect and victim on I70 using the FL system.

[55:20] It it has it's it's a good tool, but I I can see some worries about it, but not

[55:28] the way it's been in my

[55:35] [clears throat] >> I've got a couple other questions. I'll

[55:38] try to keep these short short >> surprise me. [laughter]

[55:44] Um on the email it flock mentions a new feature that they are rolling out office

[55:51] filtering for sharing. When that is available for us can you provide our

[55:58] settings? >> On the first page

[56:03] a paragraph right above accountability says we are also introducing offense

[56:07] filtering for sharing. Now cities can choose which types of

[56:11] offenses are permissible for other agencies to access their cameras.

[56:15] » Gotcha. >> So when that feature is available, can

[56:18] we can we see what it is currently set to and discuss our implementation

[56:23] support? >> Yeah.

[56:24] » Okay. Um sorry, I just got this for right before this meeting. So I I have a

[56:32] couple other things. Um

[56:37] I will point out on page two third paragraph it says in July 2025 we

[56:43] introduce an optional case code requirement for searches which we see in

[56:48] the uh and in the audit log there there's a column where you can put like

[56:54] CR numbers or CY numbers and then we also have like internal city case

[56:59] numbers as well. I think the difference is once it's in like case or something.

[57:03] I don't I don't know the rules around that, but I do see actual case numbers.

[57:07] I see what looks like city case numbers and then I also see like crash pursuit

[57:11] or hey, we don't we don't have a case number yet, but I need to look this up.

[57:15] » So, we don't make that a requirement right now for one of two reasons. Well,

[57:20] one reason. Um, for example,

[57:25] a child was hit with a car, a blade down there by Park two weeks ago. Um,

[57:35] pulled the kid out from underneath the car, put him back in the car, and took

[57:38] off. So, we heard it was coming 3500 pound. Um, so we didn't have a case

[57:43] number for that. It's not our case. Excuse [clears throat] me. But we knew

[57:47] it was coming. It was going to go by flock camera somewhere going up 35. We

[57:52] have one right here on Pleasant or 35 right over Pleasant Valley Road that

[57:56] Clay County has. [clears throat] So right then we didn't

[58:00] have a case number. But like I said, we knew it was going to hit a flop camera.

[58:04] So we put it in there. Didn't get hit or anything, but that was a case where if

[58:08] we had to have a case number, we wanted to search for that car to try to

[58:12] intercept. >> Switching it to mandatory. Does that

[58:17] remove the ability to put fresh?

[58:22] » I don't think so. I don't know if it's just number oriented or you can put

[58:28] letters. >> Okay. Looking through the the log, our

[58:34] officers have been really good about putting

[58:38] case numbers in it. You can see that that column right there in the middle.

[58:42] Lots of 26-069. then and then a handful of freshes. But

[58:47] then you get out of the freshes and the ones with case numbers and there's

[58:51] there's a number of them that don't have anything in them. And those are the ones

[58:55] that probably either should go to fresh or have some other designation

[59:00] » that that reason why we don't >> there's no drop down.

[59:06] You got this. >> Yeah.

[59:09] » Well, I can find the audit logs in flock are pretty much permanent. So even if

[59:16] your the other data is removed after 7 days or 30 days, whatever time period,

[59:20] the audit logs are still available and they if we require officers or whoever

[59:25] used it to put in a search reason or other data, then that would be permanent

[59:29] as well. So, I think that would probably be the tool you want to use in, you

[59:35] know, monthly reviews or whatever. >> Yeah.

[59:38] » Um, in our policy 421.3 ALPR operation subsection F,

[59:47] it says if practicable, the officer [clears throat] should verify an ALPR

[59:51] response through mules before taking enforcement action that is based solely

[59:55] on an event or alert. So, I'm I'm sure you have seen

[1:00:03] footage, body cam warn footage of people who have eroded as a bad detection

[1:00:10] license plate and officers took that alert as gospel and treated it as a

[1:00:15] felony stop when there was nothing wrong with them. It was the case of a of a bad

[1:00:21] al. And I don't want Pleasant Valley to be one of those where a body camera

[1:00:27] footage is being played on Fox 4. See see how they treated these guys. What

[1:00:32] sort of training and what sort of um procedures do we have in place that's

[1:00:37] beyond just if practical. >> Yeah, the the if practical is is mainly

[1:00:42] in there. We're pretty tiny city. So if we see a car and we don't have time to

[1:00:48] run it through mules before they [clears throat] get out of our city, we

[1:00:52] may not run it through mules to confirm it. That's really the only time we we

[1:00:56] run it through mules to make sure it's still a good warrant or whatever it's

[1:00:59] attached to someone or whatever. That that's really the only practical why

[1:01:04] that's in. >> Okay. But you can understand the

[1:01:09] sentiment of not putting somebody who hasn't done anything wrong through a

[1:01:14] felony traffic stop. >> Oh yeah.

[1:01:16] » Yeah. >> And that happens without these two is

[1:01:19] » Yeah. >> We pull up kind somebody and run the

[1:01:22] license plate. And I mean kind of the same thing. But yeah,

[1:01:26] if practical we we have a um we run it through first. And on that vein, do you

[1:01:34] guys take some of the like like broader body cam footage that gets thrown thrown

[1:01:40] around uh new news stations about situations that involve block cameras

[1:01:44] and use that as training to be like, "Hey, be aware of this. Let's double

[1:01:49] check." >> Yeah. We haven't, but we all see it on

[1:01:52] Facebook and know that's an unfortunate incident and don't want to be put in

[1:01:58] that position. >> Yeah. But we we don't sit there and talk

[1:02:00] about it in roll call or nothing. But I mean it's all over Facebook and any

[1:02:05] other news outlet that they're posting this stuff on. So but we can

[1:02:10] I'm not telling you what to do. Recommendation. I think it would be

[1:02:14] important to have the sort of how I when we have incidents that that our guys are

[1:02:21] on these do after action reviews. What what did we do great? What did we do

[1:02:25] wrong? What can we improve upon? How can we make this the next time we we see the

[1:02:30] situation better? I think having a more structured discussion, professional

[1:02:36] discussion, training oriented discussion with officers of other communities. Hey,

[1:02:43] here's a situation. What did they do good? Where did they mess up? How can

[1:02:48] what can we benefit from that? I think having structured training like that

[1:02:51] would be useful. And I would say that to police. I'd say that to fire, too. um

[1:02:56] public works like that that applies to every see what other people are doing.

[1:03:00] See where they mess up and see where we can take some learning lessons and have

[1:03:03] that as a structured uh structured training rather than hey I hope you guys

[1:03:09] saw on Facebook. >> I mean we do that but not with the

[1:03:13] device in >> Yeah. I I think it's so [clears throat]

[1:03:18] the system is very new relatively speaking and I I I I think more focus

[1:03:25] needs to be put on using the tool effectively than hey we've got this

[1:03:31] really powerful tool and we have some semblance of training around it. I think

[1:03:36] we just need a better more structured training as a result. I think it's

[1:03:40] important enough that they dedicate the time and resources to train properly.

[1:03:47] » I just a followup question for Pat from Pat's question to Jared on that. Um

[1:03:55] would you say that that already falls within the training that you do about

[1:03:59] officer conduct? Because I mean I would assume it's very similar to you have a

[1:04:03] car that matches a description and then you pull that person over and it's you

[1:04:07] know it's just the same car very similar car whatever or you have a person that

[1:04:11] match matches the description of the person they left from a homicide

[1:04:14] whatever it is in the way that you I would assume that kind of falls in line

[1:04:18] with the training that you already do with your officers and the way that you

[1:04:22] treat people when you have a description match or something like we're we're not

[1:04:27] looking at well this is a license plate match or it's a picture match. I mean

[1:04:30] that's I imagine in the same vein of >> Yeah, we do

[1:04:34] » other scenarios. [clears throat] >> We had one the other day that an officer

[1:04:38] did got hit for I think it was a family warrant. I don't remember what for uh

[1:04:43] ran it through mules warrant was active was for a gentleman stopped car was

[1:04:49] female immediately let her go. So um there are still cases where where

[1:04:56] that's going to happen. Um they advised during at least I guess multiple times

[1:05:02] for this male um and won't remove the warrant from the car for whatever

[1:05:08] reason. I won't tell the city that it's more

[1:05:15] because that that's just where I can see that that's it could be redundant where

[1:05:18] it's like we we train as a you know to use all of these tools in a certain way.

[1:05:24] So just because it's basically like this. Again, the same thing happens

[1:05:27] if a car is misidentified or a person is misidentified. But because it says

[1:05:31] now it gets on the news because they use the system and that system is grabbing

[1:05:36] headlines. So I mean from a PR perspective, I would say that's more of

[1:05:40] the concern where I would say I would assume that this already falls within

[1:05:44] the training that police officers should have and how they treat people and and

[1:05:48] and yada yada. But I I I think maybe Pat your concern is more just hey this is

[1:05:54] something that like news media whatever is looking for problems. So because it's

[1:06:00] connected to flock you want to be extra careful that we're not ending up in

[1:06:04] headlines somewhere which

[1:06:07] » and not just for headline sake but also for the situations that you put people

[1:06:12] through. >> Yeah.

[1:06:14] » Potentially our residents potentially nearby residents. people just people.

[1:06:24] » Thank you for answering questions. I'm sure we will continue having

[1:06:27] discussions. >> Yeah, the stuff on your table there was

[1:06:31] stuff I found after I I had sent out the packet. So,

[1:06:36] » thank you

[1:06:41] in this book for mine's definitely not as fun as his. Um,

[1:06:47] so you have my report. I will say so the new judge was supposed to start

[1:06:52] officially for this past on the 10th of August. Um, and due to a family

[1:06:58] emergency, we did use a provisional judge. We have Judge Rose. Um, and the

[1:07:05] new judge will begin hopefully this week sometime.

[1:07:10] » And he had um a death in his family. Is that correct? He dedicated a death in

[1:07:16] his family and then he went on vacation and got stranded

[1:07:22] somewhere. Oh my god. There's been a few like little They kind of all just teamed

[1:07:28] up on them at the same time. So I just need him in um this week to do an

[1:07:34] operating order that's due for the state. So he'll be in this week and

[1:07:38] everything will be situated and we have court again next week

[1:07:42] which will be his first court. Okay. And what's how much is on the docket at

[1:07:48] this point? >> Uh 250 pages.

[1:07:51] » Okay. >> I did a very low amount for this past

[1:07:55] docket to kind of >> easy

[1:07:58] everything with him. Um so I couldn't really back out of the one

[1:08:03] I sat after. >> Okay.

[1:08:11] » Question Sarah. >> Hey. Um, so you said your docket looks

[1:08:16] like 250. >> So the the report that you provided

[1:08:19] shows a backlog. >> Can you describe what the other 1,750

[1:08:29] cases are related? Like so I'm looking at municipal division submarine

[1:08:36] reporting form cases at the beginning of the month, cases at the end of the

[1:08:40] month. uh 38 alcohol drug traffic related other traffic. So we've got a

[1:08:46] lot of other traffic stuff. >> Is that part of the like amnesty program

[1:08:53] that we try to do or not not amnesty but >> if you see pending at the end of the

[1:08:57] month it could be my cases at warrant. It could be cases that are on the next

[1:09:01] few dockets. um it'll combine everything into that and then you also see

[1:09:07] outstanding at the bottom that are just active the

[1:09:11] 200 or 2346.

[1:09:16] » So I have not done agency yet. Um okay for this season um mainly just because

[1:09:24] we were easing in the new prosecutor and the new judge but I feel like uh in

[1:09:27] March I'm just going to throw throw it out there.

[1:09:30] » Okay.

[1:09:34] I was just trying to reconcile 2,000. It's all actually almost 3,000 20 25 I'm

[1:09:41] sorry, 2,700 >> versus the 250 that that are on the

[1:09:45] docket. And I know you can't you can't possibly get through 2500 cases in a

[1:09:50] single day. But yeah, no, any any active cases, if I

[1:09:56] have them at warrant, if they're on the next three dockets, if they're out there

[1:10:00] and they're still active, it's going to be on the report.

[1:10:04] » Thank you. >> Anything else for sir?

[1:10:09] [cough]

[1:10:12] » All right. Okay, Chris,

[1:10:17] you're up.

[1:10:20] So I was asked to put this report together uh for the sewer line.

[1:10:26] It was after the information to the pack. So sorry to add

[1:10:31] more paperwork for a very thick packet but um if you and this I'm sure it's I'm

[1:10:41] referring to this. Um that first picture shows kind of in the

[1:10:46] middle there you see that anaconda looking pipe. Um that's obviously the

[1:10:53] exposed line.

[1:10:56] And then

[1:11:00] the sec second picture I don't know I'm kind of explaining this because I don't

[1:11:04] know if you all have my memory prior to this but the this on the second page

[1:11:09] that photo shows the the exposed pipe is about six to eight

[1:11:15] feet to the left in this photo. The mother nature took the stream and

[1:11:25] kind of re it carved its own path in a C-shape. So, it's coming the bottom of

[1:11:32] the page would be north and it's flowing south

[1:11:37] and obviously it's hitting that mounted up dirt pile and it's shooting 90

[1:11:43] degrees to the left and it's slamming into the bank where that pipe is and

[1:11:50] scoured out an exposure. Um,

[1:11:54] [snorts] according to Keith Gins who lives, this

[1:11:58] is his backyard. This is his property, both sides of the stream. Uh, and for a

[1:12:03] portion north and to the south, the stream used to flow straight there.

[1:12:09] So, um,

[1:12:13] Ron and I met Sunday morning and we went down. Ron being the city engineer, our

[1:12:18] city engineer, went down, looked at it. Uh, Mr. G joined us after a bit. That's

[1:12:25] second time I went down and looked at it. First time was when I took these

[1:12:29] photos, but um, and Ron got his eyes on it and he's

[1:12:36] currently putting together flow numbers, flow volumes,

[1:12:41] um, and he's going to quickly put together a

[1:12:46] plan to do the repair. Uh when I first looked at it, I said, "Well, I'd

[1:12:52] probably come in here with an excavator, dig that mount of dirt, and bring it

[1:12:57] over back on top of the pipe." Um, talking to a couple of dirt guys that I

[1:13:04] know and talking with Ron, that may or may not work. Um, it'll depend on some

[1:13:10] of the numbers that Ron digs up on his studies.

[1:13:15] » And that would be like the force. That's the force of the um liquid that's coming

[1:13:22] downstream. Is that correct? The flow is >> Yes.

[1:13:27] » Thank you. >> Yes. So, so simply by

[1:13:31] excavating that mound out and moving it essentially out of the path of the

[1:13:38] stream or in this case creating a new path for the water to flow. you're

[1:13:44] taking all that energy away and it's not going to be turning and slamming into

[1:13:49] the bank and scouring out the and exposing the pipe. Um,

[1:13:53] » and do [clears throat] we know for sure that that pipe is C is Pleasant

[1:13:58] Valley's? >> Yeah.

[1:13:59] » It's not Liberty's interceptor pipe. >> It's not Kansas City's

[1:14:04] » I'm sorry. >> Yeah. No. Uh, and I don't know that

[1:14:08] because anybody from Kansas City called me back because that would be an act of

[1:14:12] God. [laughter] Um,

[1:14:13] » uh, having gone through that with the sewer rates, I [clears throat]

[1:14:17] I can concur. >> Between them and Mo, it's like they

[1:14:20] might as well just cancel their phone and save a bunch of money.

[1:14:25] » I had a question. How old is the pipe and what's the size of the pipe?

[1:14:29] » Late 70s. >> And is it like a six?

[1:14:33] » It's a 8 in inside diameter pipe, 10 in outside diameter pipe.

[1:14:41] So when >> which is kind of which is kind of

[1:14:44] standard for our what you would call like trunk lines.

[1:14:47] » Okay. >> Um

[1:14:50] the interceptors 10 12 in in places. >> Okay. And then I just have a question.

[1:14:56] With it being um built in the 70s, should we have a concern um in replacing

[1:15:04] it and redirecting the screen to ensure that we don't have um runoff or

[1:15:11] potential issues >> um

[1:15:15] » because you mentioned earlier that there's potential for leakage and just

[1:15:20] preventing it if you're going to work on it. So that section of pipe along with

[1:15:26] numerous other sections was just scoped and televised.

[1:15:31] » Okay. >> Eight months ago.

[1:15:33] » So it was in good shape. >> No, no issues.

[1:15:36] » No issues. >> We went from manhole to manhole. Uh,

[1:15:39] this is about in the middle of, [clears throat] if you look on the last

[1:15:45] page of this report, it shows you

[1:15:51] where this where that section is >> in that black circle. And that's between

[1:15:58] manhole 161 and 162. Okay,

[1:16:02] » which if you look inside the circle, 245

[1:16:08] linear feet from manhole to manhole. The section of

[1:16:12] pipe exposed is 21 ft. I wheel it off. Um,

[1:16:18] and it was so we went from manhole uh 62 to manhole 61 8 months ago and there was

[1:16:28] no issues whatsoever. No. And then when you're on site looking at a pipe that's

[1:16:35] exposed like that, you would you would smell you have an

[1:16:40] odor. you'd have a um rainbow or prism looking

[1:16:47] um slick on the top of the water. Um so we know we don't have issues with

[1:16:56] that. I I walk all the time between the trails between

[1:17:01] uh Brighton and Indiana and there's that's Gen City stuff over

[1:17:07] there. There's I walk by six to eight pipes exposed

[1:17:12] like that that are like 30 to 40 ft long.

[1:17:20] » I guess they're not concerned about it. But um

[1:17:23] » but we're concerned. [laughter] >> Yeah.

[1:17:26] » Said but we're concerned. >> Well, yeah. I mean it it not only would

[1:17:29] you have some environmental issues and possibly [clears throat]

[1:17:35] » but you would have some uh you'd have people with that

[1:17:40] service. Um

[1:17:42] » so what are the different options again? >> What are the different options again?

[1:17:47] » So what Ron's looking into and what we we've discussed are on um

[1:17:54] » page three. >> Yeah.

[1:17:57] He he's he's concerned about the volume numbers may

[1:18:03] prompt us or we may want to build a concrete wall

[1:18:12] » on the stream side or what would be the west side of the pipe spanning the

[1:18:17] length of what's exposed. Um or possibly use uh what's called geog

[1:18:25] grid. You see it a lot of times when they build stone walls. Um

[1:18:31] it's a matting that keeps stone in place.

[1:18:36] um or just possibly having the geomat put

[1:18:43] over the pipe. Then rip wrap, which rip wrap is stone. stone that's um

[1:18:54] made to

[1:18:59] certain sizes four to six inch 7 to 8 10 12 it's used you see it all

[1:19:07] the time stream side and all um so anyway he'll get back to us on that we I

[1:19:15] believe the attorneys have said we just need to get three

[1:19:22] bid numbers. We don't have to do a whole 30-day.

[1:19:27] » No. >> And then uh we do need to reach out to

[1:19:32] Army Corps Engineers to uh have their blessing on changing.

[1:19:37] » No. When you say blessing, is there a piece of paper that we sign with them?

[1:19:42] » Yeah. >> Okay. So, that's going to have to come

[1:19:44] before the board. >> Yes.

[1:19:46] » To do that? >> Yes. And then we would also have a um

[1:19:50] temporary constru construction easement >> with signed by the property owner.

[1:19:59] » This the equipment that's going to need to go down in his backyard to do this

[1:20:04] work is going to be like your large excavator on on track.

[1:20:08] » Huge. >> Yeah. It's not going to be a little

[1:20:11] backo or a little mini excavator. Um he may he mentioned

[1:20:18] I've met with him down there twice already talked quite he's for those of

[1:20:24] you that don't know he's super good guy um

[1:20:28] but he back years ago when the army corps engineer came through Pleasant

[1:20:34] Valley knowing that there's going to be a very large housing addict add ed add

[1:20:41] ed add ed add ed add ed add ed add ed add ed add ed add edition and

[1:20:44] multiple businesses being built on 152.

[1:20:50] All that runoff they knew was going to be headed our

[1:20:55] way. Um us being valley um we get everybody's

[1:21:02] water. So they came in the army core engineer and they laid back the stream

[1:21:07] banks and opened them up for more water coming from the north. And uh when they

[1:21:15] did that, Keith himself planted a lot of birch trees and other trees along the

[1:21:21] bank for bank stabilization. >> Um so he's he's probably going to want a

[1:21:27] few trees planted back. It looks like u and I know John was down there and

[1:21:32] looked at it too. For the machine to get in there, there's going to be two maybe

[1:21:38] three trees removed. Um there's two 8 in round approximately trees growing up out

[1:21:45] of that mounded dirt that'll of course have to be plucked out, but there's a

[1:21:50] couple on the bank that'll have to be moved just simply for the wood sheet.

[1:21:55] » I have one last question. What's the depth of the of the stream in that area?

[1:21:59] Do you know? Is it like less than >> like the OW original height of water is

[1:22:07] » 3 ft? >> Okay.

[1:22:11] » And with um the core of engineering, will they have to go out to assess it

[1:22:16] and will they be built for it? I'm just curious how that process works. I've

[1:22:20] never had to approach them for anything like this, so I don't know, but we'll

[1:22:26] know. Hopefully by this week. >> Thank you.

[1:22:31] » And are you going to reach out to Army Corps

[1:22:34] or

[1:22:39] » he knows we want to get this done by the end of the year?

[1:22:42] » I had that conversation. >> That's good.

[1:22:44] » Sunday morning. >> Yeah. I told him, you know, we Yeah, we

[1:22:49] talked about that. So, it's kind of one of those FYI, you

[1:22:55] guys. And

[1:22:59] » is this is this the first exposed pipe we've had since we put the pipe in

[1:23:06] » the sewer pipe? >> No, there was one on North Elm behind

[1:23:10] Mclofflin's uh here.

[1:23:12] » Oh, yes. Yes. Okay. I remember >> right by what the bridge of Culbert that

[1:23:17] they put in um that tributary. Yes. >> That's mostly dry. Only flows when it

[1:23:24] rains washed out of out of 2 and 1/2 foot sectioning pipe. [clears throat]

[1:23:30] And it was they fixed it by just taking concrete in the bag and you just set the

[1:23:38] bags down

[1:23:41] » on both sides and on top and you put dirt over it. You walk away.

[1:23:47] That's the only other spot that I'm aware side of.

[1:23:51] » So that was a smaller length. >> Yeah.

[1:23:53] » Okay. >> And it was also it was a 6 inch line.

[1:23:59] It was a four or six. It was a fourth. >> Well, that's pretty good for, you know,

[1:24:06] 50 plus years of sewers in our town. >> Yeah. And and I, you know, I say this

[1:24:13] all the time. Anytime a company's come into town and scope our sewer lines,

[1:24:19] they always say they're in really good shape. Does that mean they're going to

[1:24:23] last forever? No. But I Ron and I and all of them think that we have a lot of

[1:24:29] life left in our lives, but at the same time, you know, they're not

[1:24:35] going to last forever. So, I think it's a good idea that you're looking to set

[1:24:38] money aside for repairs, especially because what I told you earlier about

[1:24:43] what those what it would like to cost to replace our whole system.

[1:24:49] So,

[1:24:52] » that's all I got. Thank you. >> All right.

[1:24:58] » Okay. Treasures report. Um Matthew, would you update where she's at

[1:25:05] and trying to get into the system? >> Well, I I guess the only update would be

[1:25:10] working on her getting remote access to encode, which has kind of been a

[1:25:15] challenge, but as of this afternoon, that we that is done. She has the access

[1:25:20] she needs to. >> Okay. Thank you. And that will allow her

[1:25:26] to start working on the pulled cash portion of our accounting system.

[1:25:34] All right.

[1:25:37] Sorry guys, personnel committee, anything from you?

[1:25:41] » I don't have any actual reports. We don't have any recommendations uh yet,

[1:25:45] but just to >> yeah to let everyone know just the

[1:25:48] topics of discussion. were still the compensation study. Um, still under

[1:25:52] review. So, we'll update you guys when that's done. And then we were asked

[1:25:56] about the police chief being brought back to a solid position. Um, it was

[1:26:01] » something outside. >> Huh?

[1:26:03] » Somewhere on the outside. >> No, no, no, no. It was so previous uh

[1:26:07] previously the board had temporarily made the police chief hourly. the board

[1:26:13] previously >> seriously

[1:26:15] » uh because of being understaffed and overtime demand whatever but we are now

[1:26:20] at a staffing point by the chief's uh recollection of what they had originally

[1:26:25] said that is past where they wanted to keep him hourly and then switch it back

[1:26:30] to salary. So we don't have all the information on that. So admin is looking

[1:26:34] into kind of the um what the past board actions were. So we have some

[1:26:41] information based off what their previous wishes were as well as legal

[1:26:44] requirements and then they'll bring the personnel that information and then

[1:26:47] we'll bring the board information and the recommendation. So just in the early

[1:26:51] phase that was just introduced at the last meeting.

[1:26:56] » Okay. Do we have the preference of the chief?

[1:27:02] Was that discussed in personnel? We we we didn't do a discussion on it because

[1:27:08] we did not have information about what we legally can do and what the past

[1:27:15] board had said they were going to do. So, we want to get that information

[1:27:18] first in the next meeting. Assuming we can get that information, which I assume

[1:27:21] we will by the next personnel meeting, we'll have the bigger discussion about

[1:27:25] what you know the city would like to actually do.

[1:27:28] » Okay. >> So,

[1:27:31] » all right. Patrick, we were we were I can't I can't surren you and I were on

[1:27:36] the board at that time, right? >> Or no,

[1:27:40] » I didn't know what I was doing at that time. [laughter]

[1:27:43] » It was like right before. >> That's perfectly honest.

[1:27:46] » When Pat first joined and right, >> it would have been like within the first

[1:27:51] three to six months, right? Like it was it was early on in my work history.

[1:27:57] » I can't remember. Did you come I can't remember if you came up uh with some

[1:28:01] sort of idea about that or Okay, [clears throat]

[1:28:04] » talk about this. >> I I would rather we wait for to get some

[1:28:07] of the actual information. That's >> I just wanted to make sure

[1:28:10] » we we can kind of save the big long discussion until we have just some

[1:28:14] actual historical data to work with. >> Short answer, yes. I made the request to

[1:28:17] go. >> Okay.

[1:28:18] » Yeah. [laughter] >> Yep. Okay.

[1:28:21] » Currently, >> yeah, I put out 23.

[1:28:25] » Okay.

[1:28:29] All right. All right. I've said papers assuming

[1:28:37] finance. >> Everybody has a budget summary in their

[1:28:43] board packet along with updated charts. Nothing looks abnormal. Um I sent a

[1:28:49] couple of questions over to Matthew over the weekend. Uh this is nailed down

[1:28:54] little oddities to the budget. So, if you notice something, feel free to hit

[1:28:58] up Matthew on email and call out some stuff. Uh, I didn't see anything that

[1:29:05] really warranted a full discussion with us. We are in dream budget season. So,

[1:29:10] uh, Matthew and I sat down and nailed down a date where we're going to have

[1:29:15] informal meetings with department heads [clears throat]

[1:29:18] uh, to go over your guys's objectives for the next year, your financial needs,

[1:29:24] um, and nail down some of your initial budget numbers. That's scheduled for

[1:29:28] August 31st. So, be prepared.

[1:29:33] » It goes with a month end >> on the last day of the month. Yes,

[1:29:39] [laughter] >> that acceptable.

[1:29:40] » It goes with Labor Day, Sarah. >> Month in [laughter]

[1:29:46] » that's all I heard. [snorts] >> Um, so again, looking at estimated

[1:29:52] expenses, looked at what equipment you guys have,

[1:29:55] what uh your capital improvement requests are going to be for the next

[1:30:00] year. Starting to put those on the paper so that we can get an idea together. I'm

[1:30:05] just an observer observer. Matthew is going to be running it. But I think

[1:30:10] having all of the heads sitting down at the same time will will help make the

[1:30:14] process hopefully painless. So that's all that's all the stuff that

[1:30:22] I've got. >> Less people around.

[1:30:28] [laughter] >> All right.

[1:30:32] » New business. Anything? And our reminder for our next meeting

[1:30:36] will be on a Tuesday after Labor Day, >> not Monday.

[1:30:43] » And it's like three weeks. >> Yeah.

[1:30:45] » I think the 8th of September be the first the next meeting.

[1:30:49] » Thank you for that.

[1:30:55] » Any other new new business?

[1:31:01] All right, let's go to our consideration of ordinances.

[1:31:07] Matthew, would you please read council bill number 3662?

[1:31:13] An ordinance approving an agreement between the city of Pleasant Valley,

[1:31:16] Missouri, and Green Great Race LLC for professional services relating to sewer

[1:31:22] rate analysis services. >> So move second.

[1:31:28] » Well, yes. Okay. Any any discussion regarding this?

[1:31:38] » Okay. Call the RO. >> Yes.

[1:31:42] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:31:44] » Page. >> Yes.

[1:31:45] » Scarboro. >> Yes.

[1:31:46] » Showers. >> Yes.

[1:31:48] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:31:53] Um, read the title bill out loud of council bill 3662, please.

[1:31:59] » An ordinance approving an agreement between the city of Pleasant Valley,

[1:32:03] Missouri and Green Rates LLC for professional services relating to sew

[1:32:08] rate analysis services. >> Okay,

[1:32:13] » I move we accept council bill 3662 as ordinance 366.

[1:32:21] Any further discussion? That was Dean. Did you say second it? Okay.

[1:32:30] » Gallagher. >> Yes.

[1:32:31] » Yes. >> Yes. Paige,

[1:32:34] » yes. >> Yes.

[1:32:35] » Shar. >> Yes.

[1:32:37] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:32:41] » Just to let everybody know, we have started on this process with Mr. Brown

[1:32:48] with an initial phone call. to see where everybody what everybody

[1:32:54] needs to be doing.

[1:33:06] » Matthew, please read aloud the title of the bill

[1:33:10] 3663, an ordinance approving an agreement

[1:33:14] between the city of Pleasant Valley, Missouri and Summer, Inc. and

[1:33:18] authorizing the mayor to execute the documents on behalf of the city.

[1:33:22] » Thank you. >> Okay. [snorts]

[1:33:24] Motion in a second. >> So move.

[1:33:27] » Second. >> All right. Discussion.

[1:33:34] » Call the >> yes.

[1:33:36] » Callie, >> yes.

[1:33:38] » Yes. >> Paige,

[1:33:39] » yes. >> Scar,

[1:33:40] » yes. >> Showers,

[1:33:41] » yes. >> Olson,

[1:33:42] » yes. >> Freeman,

[1:33:43] » yes.

[1:33:47] Motion's approved. >> And if you need to do it again,

[1:33:53] » an ordinance approving an agreement between the city of Pleasal and Missouri

[1:33:57] and Summer and authorizing the mayor to execute the

[1:34:01] documents on behalf of the city. >> We pass council bill 3663 as ordinance

[1:34:08] 3662. >> Second

[1:34:13] that. Everybody likes this ordinance. >> Got one question.

[1:34:20] » Okay, go ahead, John. >> There was discussion in here about

[1:34:25] moving a machine from to downstairs or copier or something.

[1:34:33] Yes, we we as part of that process we we did a walk through of admin, police

[1:34:41] department, public works, fire station and what and so everybody in those

[1:34:47] departments was involved and what made sense to there's a couple we're going to

[1:34:52] eliminate all together and one's going to there's going to be some moving

[1:34:55] around just for the best use. >> Okay.

[1:34:59] » When when is this happening? at the end of the month just for

[1:35:04] [laughter]

[1:35:07] the >> 33rd

[1:35:09] » because we're staying with the same company. We're not bringing in new

[1:35:12] devices and learning. So there won't be any training necessarily involved. So

[1:35:17] soon because I'll give I'll let we have four groups give us bids. So I'll let

[1:35:24] the other three know when I'm going with Jim and let someone know we are.

[1:35:29] soon.

[1:35:38] » Gallagher, >> yes.

[1:35:39] » Caligan, >> yes.

[1:35:41] » Yes. >> Paige,

[1:35:42] » yes. >> Scarro,

[1:35:43] » yes. >> Showers,

[1:35:44] » yes. >> Olsson,

[1:35:46] » yes. >> Freeman,

[1:35:47] » yes.

[1:35:51] » Okay. At this point, I'm going to entertain

[1:35:56] a motion to adjurnn. >> We before I just one point, it's

[1:36:02] » too late. I >> sorry [laughter]

[1:36:06] just for for everyone's sake, the part because the meeting is going to be after

[1:36:12] Labor Day. So to let you know that the fire department is planning on doing our

[1:36:16] boot block for muscular distrophe on uh Labor Day weekend. So, we will be out

[1:36:22] probably at the four-way stop again Saturday and Sunday collecting.

[1:36:27] Uh, I think we raised $3,000 last year. So, hopefully we'll

[1:36:32] » do well this year. >> 3001.

[1:36:34] » Yep. [laughter] >> Sorry. Can I share something but I

[1:36:38] forgot to on last Thursday or Friday there was a

[1:36:44] contracted company that sets out uh construction cones and whatnot for

[1:36:53] construction companies getting ready to do work. Ask the guy what's going on.

[1:36:57] You might have saw the delineators across the street from Quick Trip. We're

[1:37:01] running towards >> 8601

[1:37:07] » running towards Hes >> Liberty. Yeah.

[1:37:10] » Okay. Tandem Paving has the job. Tandem Mar is

[1:37:16] getting ready to do our job >> on the east side of 69 highway.

[1:37:21] » They they started this morning. They they the contract the guy setting

[1:37:27] the cones out told me that there's a company they're coming to pay.

[1:37:32] I he didn't know who and all that anyway. So I looked [clears throat] into

[1:37:35] it further found out it's well they started this morning way down Liberty

[1:37:41] Parkway and used to be the dog where it ended

[1:37:47] » coming our way.

[1:37:50] I was told that they're doing that they're meeting us at our city

[1:37:55] » limit >> limit

[1:37:58] » in front of quick >> which

[1:38:00] » obviously then after they pave

[1:38:05] » they'll be sparking >> the pain

[1:38:12] » terrible. >> Yeah. So trying to confirm it. I know

[1:38:16] that they physically started at the dog leg and came about. They made it almost

[1:38:24] to Casey's. >> That's good. It'll fix those two bad

[1:38:27] spots right quick that are still >> So anyway, just a heads up for you

[1:38:32] emergency people if you guys are being asked by residents

[1:38:37] and all that. I'll try to find out more and let you know. Anyway, just wanted

[1:38:43] » I move we second. Okay,

[1:38:48] » please call the vote. >> Gallagher,

[1:38:50] » yes. >> Caligan,

[1:38:52] » yes. >> Holtz,

[1:38:52] » yes. >> Paige,

[1:38:54] » yes. >> Scarboro,

[1:38:55] » yes. >> Showers,

[1:38:56] » yes. >> Olson,

[1:38:57] » yes. >> Freeman,

[1:38:58] » yes. >> I'm going to ask all aldermen to leave

[1:39:01] these two um pieces of paper

[1:39:06] um on the trash pile, please. You receive We can't

[1:39:13] see what pieces. I think I think

[1:39:21] » I don't think we had them. >> Yeah, I think they

[1:39:24] » you brought them up with yourself. >> Well, they may have been in my pile.

[1:39:29] » Okay. I take your

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