[0:00] good morning welcome to the fire committee for the Village of Point ever

[0:03] for Tuesday September 12th I'd like to call this meeting to order at this time

[0:09] are there any Declarations of pecuniary interests none

[0:13] known okay uh we have no delegations the prior meeting minutes have been

[0:18] circulated mayor hand do you have any questions or comments no I don't okay I

[0:24] will recommend that we receive and approve so

[0:28] moved there is one ongoing task carried over from previous meetings is the

[0:34] community Master fire plan which is to be added to the 2024

[0:38] budget um can we please have an update on the status of the library and fire

[0:43] hall roof project yep uh last I heard they're planning on starting

[0:47] approximately not next Monday but the Monday after um the week I think the day

[0:53] two actually maybe it is next the 19th it might be next week or 18th that would

[0:58] be the 18th yeah is the week of the 20th is when they're

[1:02] expecting to Monday's the 18th and do we know how

[1:07] long dependent on weather two weeks thank you very much so that should

[1:14] see it done by the end of

[1:19] September yeah the weather cooperates okay uh the joint health and

[1:26] safety committee report for the fire hall is complete and I recommend that we

[1:29] receiving

[1:33] file Chief McKenzie can you please share the your M fire please

[1:39] okay um with community relations so multiple

[1:45] car seat installations are still being brought forward to us the guys are

[1:50] helping people try to put them in um as we stated last time we're not

[1:56] renewing our certifications at this time because you have to go to town

[2:01] there people are still coming to us because nobody's answering the phone and

[2:04] other agencies to help them um Fire Halls are complete or fire

[2:10] hall tours completed with a number of groups uh inspections multiple

[2:17] inspections still with sunbridge and the new construction on venan trying to stay

[2:22] on top of it also and multiple mobile food truck inspections

[2:28] also Community Emergency Management plaudo yeah During the period of this

[2:36] report um the county had their CMC meeting our field officer from

[2:43] onario onario was there as well over some of the storm debrief from the area

[2:49] um and then we had an internal storm debrief here some that and then

[2:56] basically does their month so those

[3:04] uh vehicles and Equipment all vehicles are in good working order our annual

[3:07] pump tests been done on the engine and the ladder we have a couple valves on

[3:13] the uh engine that has to be replaced that

[3:16] leaking ground ladders have all been completed a little bit of work had to be

[3:20] done to them nothing major

[3:25] um the boat trailer instead of replacing it

[3:30] Rick and I took it upon ourselves to uh fix it so we repaired it got it in

[3:35] working order so that uh saved us 5,000 bucks our rescue truck um is still

[3:44] having some issues has a small week of antifreeze mechanic was down yesterday

[3:52] still cannot find it so they're going to see what they're going to talk to the

[3:57] boss and see what they can do and all Al our awning is not working and the motor

[4:01] he said it's no good on it's already fried

[4:05] so we'll see what they do with that hopefully we'll know in the next week or

[4:09] two sorry do you mean the motor on the awning yeah okay thank

[4:13] you um health and safety nothing no concerns

[4:19] with anybody in the department which is brought forward every monthly meeting

[4:22] from our department capital budget no Capital

[4:27] expenditures took place uh we're trying to get some still trying to get host and

[4:33] we got year we have to order uh so we'll see how that goes for time frame I know

[4:39] we have we're still waiting from from last year so we're still having problems

[4:43] getting

[4:46] things um upcoming events we got bridgy school barbecue we're looking forward we

[4:51] have a new principal to work with so that should be exciting for the guys

[4:54] this year we Emergency Management

[4:58] exercise fire prevention week is October 88th to

[5:02] 14th saved by the beep smoke alarm day is September 28th so we trying to

[5:08] promote get everybody to test their smoke alarms that

[5:12] day probably doing handouts I think the deputy is going to

[5:16] be arranging to have door too

[5:21] P

[5:25] correct um Chief or the deput and I uh went to the Chiefs meeting that was HED

[5:33] hosted in Watford uh lots of new faces there um we

[5:40] attended the Bike Rodeo hosted by the point Edward Optimus Hall which was

[5:44] really nice still trying to keep that

[5:49] going worked with Tim Hortons with Camp day again which is a great

[5:56] supporters um fire Marshalls town hall meeting meetings Zoom meetings that

[6:00] we've attended a couple of those that's gone on with everything that's

[6:04] [Music] happening still meeting with E1 fir

[6:11] truck um so I I'm G to bring it up now with

[6:17] this um it's been extremely challenging with this

[6:24] dealer um he's come down a couple times now

[6:28] we've talked as you're aware um they they increased the price of the

[6:34] truck because we had to get a different engine which they said they wouldn't do

[6:40] but they did it and so he he gave us the spec of when we

[6:46] first designed the truck and it was incorrect so I told him you got I gotta

[6:50] go back so Paul you gotta go back and change it and get exactly what I what I

[6:55] want that took probably two months he came down again we talked about it again

[7:01] because they're still not getting what we want and what we're trying to do with

[7:04] this truck is keep it very simple very basic but there's certain things that we

[7:09] are trying to achieve and the main achievement that most Fire Chiefs

[7:13] departments all across Ontario they're trying to lower their hose bed their

[7:19] truck because they want to keep people as low as possible to load

[7:26] H so he brought back some information and sent some pictures and it's not low

[7:32] enough for us again so we've seen other trucks where it's lower so I said it's

[7:38] got to be lower I'll have to take it back and da D all right so he took it

[7:44] back and he said he get it back to me right away and the last letter I

[7:49] received I don't know if you forward it to council

[7:52] Jim uh I highly recommend for you to see it

[7:55] [Music] um with the canoe with the discount of

[8:00] the truck it was a nice discount for the truck um they're not going to set

[8:04] they're not going to give us anything they're not going to give me another

[8:07] spec we have to sign off on this truck if we want it to get it in the order to

[8:14] be able to save on whether it's going to go up with exchange whether it's going

[8:18] to go up in cost whatever whatever I'm not feeling really

[8:25] comfortable because I have to answer to our

[8:30] community and Council I don't have a piece of paper

[8:34] that is stating that I'm getting what I'm asking for and he's telling me that

[8:40] they will do this and everything else um I find that hard to

[8:45] believe that I'm not going to get hit with more

[8:50] money so I'd like to see some feedback from

[8:56] Council what you think personally I don't feel

[9:03] comfortable every I shouldn't say every there's a lot of other departments are

[9:07] going through the same issues it's not the service we used to receive it's

[9:13] different and I'm just I'm very cautious of telling him yes and it's it's not a

[9:21] major major thing but it is to me we spent a

[9:26] lot of time with our committee of our firefighters to build this truck so it's

[9:31] as good as we possibly can make it and as safe and the best quality that we

[9:37] can and he comes down we talk he's a very

[9:41] nice fellow to talk to and stuff and I he's dealing with other people higher up

[9:46] and everything else and they've just said you know what you've got to get

[9:49] your name on this truck because if you don't you're you're G to miss it we're

[9:54] looking at two years still to build the truck so um

[10:00] I don't feel good with it I know the deputy doesn't feel good with it um so

[10:07] we we don't know which way to go here

[10:12] um to me if it's not a written contract somehow they want to change your wording

[10:17] that we're going to receive everything and it's not going to be an increase

[10:21] then I can work with them a bit but uh it's been very very challenging I have

[10:26] never ever seen anything like this in my time and I've I've replaced every truck

[10:32] in our department never have I ever seen this nobody wants to come down nobody

[10:37] wants to talk to you nobody they have minimal information for you um it's it's

[10:43] over a million bucks folks it's a big purchase I don't think

[10:48] if you're not comfortable with it and your crew is not comfortable with it

[10:51] then I don't think it's something that you should move on with if you you could

[10:57] get stuck with something that's not what you wanted and that's would be a lot

[11:01] worse than two years yeah and I mean it's it's one thing for that part of it

[11:07] I mean trucks a truck and whether it's two inches higher than what I want

[11:12] that's one thing but it's still signing for a million dollars and and then find

[11:17] out it's another two $500,000 more that they

[11:23] say well this is what you wanted and that's what I'm careful of so unless I

[11:27] can get something from him uh the last proposal that we received I don't even

[11:32] have it here I thought it was shared so it was a million two I think J something

[11:38] 245 or something like that um you know so

[11:43] it's what would happen if you didn't go with this truck that's our problem we

[11:48] can't it's not as if we can just reach out and talk to anybody they are one of

[11:53] the better quality trucks to purchase um

[11:59] as much as I'd like to tell them you know what we're just going elsewhere I

[12:04] don't have options I don't have a lot of options there's other people that sell

[12:08] fire trucks but not for what I we've had extremely good luck with this style of

[12:14] truck and this name of truck and I don't I don't think we should be trying to

[12:19] Veer off of that and throw the dice got to remember our truck is over 20 years

[12:24] old and still operating they really really good so I that goes a long ways

[12:30] with me because we anything we do buy uh it's it's got to last now saying that

[12:39] one thing that is in our favor I believe anyways I think our truck that we have

[12:44] now will be a hot commodity for someone else to

[12:48] buy and um last time we traded our truck in our rescue when we when we did that I

[12:55] do not recommend trading this one in I try I would sell it ourselves yeah the

[13:00] one before we went to manat tulan was that no no no where was it up north oh

[13:06] that's that's two trucks two trucks ago so that is in our favor that we are we

[13:12] will get a good chunk of change for that one but um I shared that stuff with Jim

[13:18] to send it out so when you have a look at it you'll you'll kind of see where

[13:22] I'm I would that thank you

[13:27] um what one thing I think is is just stay

[13:32] firm and say like you you have the option to go back and say I've reviewed

[13:35] it with my councel and they need this this confirmation and writing yeah like

[13:40] so you're putting it off as my council's saying this is what I

[13:46] need yeah it's not like you're demanding it you're saying in order to to move

[13:51] forward I need this and writing and then we can sign off yeah when we get there I

[13:56] have no problem yeah I mean these people me nothing to me I don't care I have no

[14:00] problem that way it's just it's just not a

[14:04] comfortable feeling signed for a million bucks say oh by the way yeah by the way

[14:13] we need another because I've already done that

[14:18] yeah yeah yeah so it's just we need to we need to

[14:25] be firm and sign the document and and we're ready to do

[14:34] business is this sna just bought another this did they deal with them yeah they

[14:40] have dealt with them and St Clair fire chief Richard boy is also dealing with

[14:44] okay with them right now yeah Rich and I Richard and I have talked many times and

[14:49] they're still having they're having the same different problems

[14:53] to anyways

[14:57] um uh where are we okay members attending

[15:01] the meeting regarding the potential proposed changes to the narial fire

[15:05] code um UFM webinar regarding the upcoming smoke

[15:11] alarm day campaign uh members attended the meeting

[15:16] to discuss large storm event that happened through their

[15:22] Community uh several members completed their pump operation exam in their

[15:27] practical component written test and practical tests which hats off to these

[15:32] people that did this there was a tremendous amount of time and effort

[15:36] they put in and that'll be your the first uh monies that we'll be paying out

[15:42] to the people for that training which I've

[15:47] submitted [Music]

[15:49] um with that just so everybody understands so Jim was talking to me he

[15:56] wanted something in writing for state how we how we go about this and what

[16:01] I've tried to do is talk to again other people that have sent their people

[16:05] through for any type of training and how they paid them the hour

[16:11] um time frame there's a Time usually that the college allows for any of these

[16:17] courses I went in between and tried to balance it out for what I've done I

[16:23] think it's fair for our people it's fair right across the line but you need to

[16:27] understand it can be a lot more money and it probably will be because as

[16:33] things going to progress I think you're going to see

[16:37] more and more and people are going to expect it and rightfully so it is it is

[16:41] a big time thing that they we put in in a lot of stress I know our people were

[16:47] stressed out for this

[16:50] course um ended the learning webinar regarding

[16:57] uh gas fires and residential structures CL

[17:02] utilize vacation time Rick utiliz some vacation time I'm leaving

[17:10] tomorrow uh for vacation I thought better finish that

[17:15] sentence where you got

[17:18] excited um don't start planning the party our open house uh we're I'm

[17:24] looking for some direction on it also um with Co

[17:29] crisis that we had and know we talked about it and was I only who I talked to

[17:34] might have been Jim might have been councel I have no idea but we are

[17:37] talking about going every other year every year um I'd like to know what you

[17:42] would like because it's coming up I'd like to see it every year every

[17:47] year I think that it's a great event for our community really keeps um our

[17:52] community pass fire okay I I agree because the people that attend are all

[17:56] the people with the young families and and they really look forward to coming

[18:00] out okay so we'll we'll get rolling on it um open burn I just wanted to know is

[18:09] there any update with that yet Jim or nothing um it's as far as I'm aware it's

[18:14] sitting on the judge's dock ready for approval it's been prepared to you know

[18:18] where the person I deal with has recommended it for approval so we're

[18:21] just waiting for that okay and we've lost three more people

[18:27] this month so another person just got hired on the city and I think we have

[18:31] another one that's on the list for the city so but we've lost three this

[18:38] month that's it thank

[18:43] you um the fire monthly financial statements do we have any questions or

[18:48] comments of those I I didn't have any questions on any of

[18:53] it then we will receive I didn't see anything scary

[19:00] at this point the end for the end of July then we can receive and file um we

[19:06] moved the next meeting date for of the fire committee will be held on October

[19:11] 10th at 8:30 a.m. motion to

[19:16] adour 8:30 or 8 said 8:30 in here it says 8:30 but it's eight okay for

[19:23] everybody we're here S no problem us okay and 8 a. yeah okay we can change

[19:27] them yeah that just kind of automatically shows up

[19:32] yeah thank you

September 12, 2023 Fire Committee

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