[0:30] Mesdames et Messieurs,

[0:32] >> Ladies and bonsoir. Je joins

[0:34] ma voix à gentlemen good

[0:35] evening. Celle du conseil

[0:36] municipal pour vous souhaiter

[0:37] une excellente année 2023.

[0:39] Santé, de wow

[0:40] Bonheur et prospérité à vous et

[0:42] à vos proches en espérant que la

[0:43] période des Fêtes ait été

[0:45] agréable et que vous ayez eu la

[0:48] chance de célébrer avec vos

[0:49] proches. Ce début d'année marque

[0:51] tristement le départ de madame

[0:53] Erin Tedford à titre de concert

[0:54] municipal du district un. En

[0:57] effet, suite à son absence

[0:58] prolongée pour des raisons de

[0:59] santé, elle a remis sa démission

[1:01] le 10 janvier dernier. Ce qui

[1:04] explique que des élections

[1:05] partielles seront déclenchées

[1:07] prochainement. Entre-temps, les

[1:08] citoyens de son district qui ont

[1:10] besoin d'assistance pourront

[1:11] communiquer avec moi. Sur une

[1:13] note plus joyeuse, nous

[1:14] soulignons l'honneur reçue par

[1:15] un citoyen de Pointe-Claire.

[1:17] Monsieur John Bergeron est un

[1:22] biologiste cellulaire et

[1:23] biochimiste canadien qui compte

[1:25] une liste d'accomplissement à

[1:26] laquelle s'ajoutent le statut de

[1:27] membre de l'Ordre du Canada.

[1:29] C'est le souligne les services

[1:33] distingués rendus à l'égard

[1:35] d'une collectivité, d'un groupe

[1:37] ou dans un domaine d'activité en

[1:39] particulier. Il a reçu cet

[1:41] honneur pour sa contribution à

[1:43] l'excellence scientifique dans

[1:44] le domaine de la protéomique. La

[1:48] protéomique désigne la science

[1:49] qui étudie les protêts Home.

[1:52] C'est-à-dire l'ensemble des

[1:53] protéines d'une cellule, d'un

[1:54] tissu, d'un organe ou d'un

[1:55] organisme à un moment donné et

[1:57] sous les conditions données.

[1:59] L'Ordre du Canada reconnaît des

[2:02] réalisations exceptionnelle, le

[2:03] dévouement remarquable d'une

[2:04] personne envers la communauté ou

[2:06] une contribution extraordinaire

[2:07] à la nation, toutes nos

[2:09] félicitations à monsieur

[2:10] Bergeron! En terminant,

[2:12] Pointe-Claire tiendra son

[2:13] carnaval d'hiver le samedi 28

[2:14] janvier, à partir de 11 heures.

[2:17] C'est un rendez-vous au parc

[2:18] Northview, les citoyennes et

[2:20] citoyens de Pointe-Claire sont

[2:21] invités à participer à une foule

[2:25] d'activités extérieures pour

[2:26] tous les goûts.

[3:11] I join the City Council in

[3:12] wishing you a happy New Year

[3:13] 2023. Health, happiness and

[3:14] prosperity to you and your loved

[3:17] ones. I hope your holiday season

[3:20] was pleasant and you had the

[3:21] chance to celebrate with them.

[3:23] The beginning of the year sadly

[3:24] marks the departure of Erin

[3:25] Tedford as City Councillor for

[3:27] District 1. Following her

[3:31] extended absence for health

[3:32] reasons, she

[3:39] resigned on January 10. 10.

[3:40] This implies that by-elections

[3:41] will be called soon. In the

[3:42] meantime, citizens of her

[3:43] district who need assistance can

[3:45] contact me. On a happier note,

[3:47] we highlight the honour received

[3:48] by a citizen of Pointe-Claire,

[3:50] M. John J.M. Bergeron, a

[3:53] Canadian cell biologist and

[3:56] biochemist. Mr. Bergeron has a

[3:57] long list of achievements to

[3:58] which he adds Member of the

[3:59] Order of Canada. This status

[4:04] recognizes exceptional

[4:05] contribution to a particular

[4:07] community, group or area of

[4:08] activity. He received this

[4:09] honour for his contribution to

[4:13] scientific excellence in

[4:14] proteomics. Proteomics is the

[4:16] scientific field that studies

[4:17] proteomes, that is, all the

[4:18] proteins of a cell, tissue,

[4:21] organ or organism at a given

[4:23] time and under given conditions.

[4:25] The Order of Canada recognizes

[4:27] exceptional

[4:35] achievements, a person's

[4:36] remarkable dedication to a

[4:37] community or an extraordinary

[4:38] contribution to the nation.

[4:39] Congratulations, Mr. Bergeron.

[4:40] Pointe-Claire will hold its

[4:41] Winter Carnival on Saturday,

[4:42] January 28, starting at

[4:47] 11 am a.atat Northview Park. The

[4:48] citizens of Pointe-Claire are

[4:49] invited to take part in a host

[4:50] of outdoor activities. There's

[4:51] something for everyone!

[4:58] 2 Adopter l'ordre du jour. 3.

[5:04] Présentations, proclamations et

[5:05] hommages le retrait du point

[5:06] neuf.

[5:07] >> With the withdrawal of 9.1.

[5:13] >> Do I have a mover?

[5:17] >> Hold on. Just a minute.

[5:22] >> Okay.

[5:31] >> Brent Cowan,. It Eric Stork,

[5:34] district seven.

[5:35] >> All in 4.1 Approuver les

[5:36] versions françaises et les

[5:37] favour? Versions anglaises des

[5:38] procès-verbaux de la séance

[5:39] ordinaire du 6 décembre 2022 et

[5:40] des séances extraordinaires du

[5:41] 19 décembre 2022 et du 21

[5:42] décembre 2022.

[5:50] >> Do I have a mover? Brent

[5:55] Cowan, district district eight.

[5:59] >> Eric Stork, district seven.

[6:00] >> All in favour? Okay. Question

[6:04] period. 19 minute limit.

[6:16] >> Good evening, everyone. We're

[6:18] here to present a petition that

[6:20] we have had 83 people sign. If

[6:22] you don't mind, I'm just going

[6:24] to read it.

[6:25] >> Can you state your name?

[6:27] >> Sorry, my name is Shannon

[6:29] Casey. I printed extra copies.

[6:31] Do you want to copy of it? No,

[6:34] like, all of you?

[6:36] >> Should? We

[6:37] >> Just one? Okay.

[6:39] >> But sure. As many as you

[6:43] want.

[6:44] >> So, in the fall of 2020, the

[6:46] gate leading on to the John many

[6:48] soccer field beside the water

[6:50] tower on top of canned was

[6:52] locked out without any public

[6:54] thought consultation. As a

[6:55] result, students who attend the

[6:58] high schools are no longer able

[6:59] to access their schools to this

[7:01] convenient gate. The locked gate

[7:03] also bars local citizens from

[7:05] crossing the field on their way

[7:06] to Douglas and or the library

[7:07] pool arena during the school

[7:09] year. It is only open in the

[7:12] summer. The ensuing result of

[7:14] the closed gate was a

[7:16] significant increase of traffic

[7:17] on May would as all the walkers,

[7:18] bikers, drivers, and dog walkers

[7:20] were suddenly sharing a narrow

[7:23] sidewalk on May would. To go

[7:25] around the school to get to the

[7:27] roundabout entrance at the front

[7:28] of the school yard. This

[7:30] situation is further exasperated

[7:31] in the winter months when snow

[7:32] and ice make walking to school

[7:34] even treacherous in a very busy

[7:36] area. Any student lives within

[7:39] 1.2 kilometre radius of the

[7:40] school is considered a walker,

[7:41] and they do not qualify for a

[7:43] school bus. This means that they

[7:45] must walk to school or get a

[7:46] lift. Students who live on the

[7:48] west side of Saint-Jean are

[7:50] eligible for a school bus

[7:51] because it is a busy road. South

[7:54] of the school is the library

[7:55] pool arena, where a few students

[7:56] live. On the southeast corner is

[7:59] Terra-Cotta forest, also a spot

[8:00] where no students live. All of

[8:02] this to say that the vast

[8:03] majority of walkers are coming

[8:04] from the north and northeast

[8:06] side of the school. The entrance

[8:09] to the school, on top of can't,

[8:11] was the fastest way for all of

[8:12] the students to enter the school

[8:13] yard. When the gate was suddenly

[8:16] locked in the fall of 2020,

[8:17] Walker's had to walk an extra

[8:19] 450 metres, which is a five

[8:21] minute walk for an adult to go

[8:23] all the way around the school to

[8:25] enter at the roundabout and the

[8:27] English hand, which faces the

[8:29] state park. It is our opinion

[8:31] that this school students will

[8:33] be able to enter the school yard

[8:35] in the safest manner. Left 450

[8:37] metres required of everyone who

[8:38] could easily be's in the gate is

[8:40] significant, especially for the

[8:42] little legs of five year olds.

[8:43] Additionally, if the workers

[8:44] could use the dock of canned

[8:46] entrance, it would substantially

[8:47] reduce the number of cars trying

[8:49] to drop students off at the

[8:51] front of the school. When the

[8:54] gate was initially lock to shut

[8:56] public security stayed the area

[8:57] around the water tower that

[8:58] influence was too busy and

[9:00] dangerous during morning drop

[9:02] offs before school. The safety

[9:03] of the students was a major

[9:05] concern. Many of us parents

[9:07] witnessed the safety concerns as

[9:08] we also observed students

[9:10] starting through cars that were

[9:12] dropping off other students and

[9:14] cars doing U-turns after they

[9:17] had dropped author children on

[9:18] Duke of Kent. We are not

[9:19] insensitive to the many concerns

[9:20] of residents on Duke of Kent and

[9:21] we have some ideas that will

[9:23] make reopening the gate

[9:24] equitable for everyone. As

[9:26] invested and engage citizens of

[9:29] Pointe-Claire we believe

[9:30] students should be safe when

[9:31] they go to school in that any

[9:32] possible danger should be

[9:33] considered and prevented. We do

[9:34] not want to wait for something

[9:35] bad to happen as a result of the

[9:37] traffic caused by the closed

[9:38] gate. We the undersigned would

[9:41] like to get on Duke of Kent to

[9:42] be permanently left open once

[9:44] the following safety measures

[9:45] have been put in place. So we

[9:47] have two phases. The first one

[9:49] is the simplest way to start. We

[9:53] thought new signage needs to be

[9:55] install installed. There should

[9:56] be no turning on to Duke of Kent

[9:59] Fran Maywood, no left or right

[10:00] turns between 7:30 or 9 am.

[10:04] There should be a drop of zone,

[10:05] five minutes for the students

[10:06] just to hop out of out of the

[10:08] car just in front of the water

[10:10] tower pat on the south side

[10:11] only, just enough space for four

[10:12] cars to drop on students and

[10:14] keep going. So there is no

[10:15] stopping and people darting. No

[10:19] parking. Also, if there is a way

[10:23] to stop the cars from doing you

[10:24] turns or turning around and

[10:27] peoples driveways and causing

[10:29] unnecessary traffic. Phase two

[10:30] would be when Duke of Kent is

[10:33] virtually repaved. There should

[10:34] be a sidewalk that prevents that

[10:37] connect Maywood all the way to

[10:38] the tower in a concrete border

[10:39] should be installed along the

[10:41] properties of homeowners along

[10:44] Duke of Kent so that aggressive

[10:45] protected from stopping

[10:46] vehicles. We'd like to thank our

[10:48] councillor, Eric Stork for

[10:50] reading meeting with us and

[10:51] looking for a solution for all

[10:52] parties. Nobody in Pointe-Claire

[10:54] wants a child or adult to be

[10:55] injured in our community, and

[10:57] hopefully we can work together

[10:58] to open this gate at the water

[11:01] tower on Duke of Kent. Thank you

[11:05] very much.

[11:09] >> To one more?

[11:10] >> Is there a question?

[11:12] >> My question is, can we open

[11:14] the gate?

[11:15] >> Well, we'll put it to the

[11:17] traffic committee. I have heard

[11:18] a bit about this, and I have

[11:19] heard that it is dissuaded

[11:21] walking. That is one of the

[11:22] comments that I have heard from

[11:24] many people about the closing of

[11:26] the gate.

[11:27] >> If I can just give one

[11:28] example, I have a

[11:30] seven-year-old, smaller than his

[11:32] age, and we live on the app, so

[11:36] I don't take the car to drop off

[11:38] because I'm not going in that to

[11:42] drop off my kid it's cool, so we

[11:44] walk. So is entrance to go in

[11:47] the school is at the back of the

[11:48] school so we have to walk along

[11:52] Maywood and then go along the

[11:54] school and go around the round

[11:55] part of the schools so he can

[11:56] enter at the back. So the walk

[12:00] that initially, when he started

[12:01] school, or when my older one was

[12:02] in school would take, five, or

[12:05] six minutes to get into the

[12:07] school yard, now takes a bit

[12:09] longer and he gets to school and

[12:10] he's already tired. That's not

[12:11] even when there is a snowstorm

[12:13] or when the sidewalk is full of

[12:17] snow. All of these months. So he

[12:20] gets to school and he is

[12:22] already, like, he stopped at the

[12:25] middle, the bench on that street

[12:30] at Duke of Kent. There's a

[12:31] little bench where he stops

[12:32] before he continues his path. So

[12:35] when it is raining, when there

[12:37] is a snowstorm, I have to still

[12:38] walk him because for no reason

[12:42] I'm going to go in that to come

[12:43] back home afterwards. That is a

[12:45] bit also, like, and he is one of

[12:48] them. He is not the only one.

[12:51] >> My question is, is the

[12:54] walking, are people walking to

[12:56] school being dissuaded by cars

[12:58] in any way? Is it making it

[13:01] harder for kids to walk to

[13:03] school under the current setup?

[13:05] >> Younger kids will walk them

[13:11] until grade five.

[13:12] >> Sorry, I would say yes. For

[13:13] example, when it's not winter in

[13:15] my kids wanted to bike to school

[13:17] I would happily send them around

[13:19] the back. They would go around

[13:21] from our house on Duke of Kent

[13:23] and they would lose their leave

[13:24] their bikes of the water tower

[13:25] and go to the school. Once it

[13:26] was like to have and let them

[13:27] bike sense because it is so busy

[13:29] in the morning. There's no bike

[13:31] path. Maywood is like, this

[13:33] people are walking. Then my kids

[13:34] are trying to go on to the

[13:35] street. I saw my son between the

[13:37] car in a sidewalk, like this

[13:38] much space, and I was that's it,

[13:42] we're not biking here anymore.

[13:43] It's not safe.

[13:44] >> There was one point where

[13:45] there is a career that opened

[13:46] the window to tell a kid on the

[13:48] bike to get on the sidewalk. But

[13:50] on the sidewalk there's all

[13:52] these walkers. So no, the bike

[13:53] shouldn't be on the sidewalk,

[13:55] but there are so many cars and

[13:57] then some cars are tied up with

[14:00] traffic, and they open up to let

[14:01] their kids out to go to school.

[14:03] So it's all that area. We cross

[14:10] from Dieppe, we cross Maywood to

[14:11] go on the sidewalk, and even my

[14:14] fourth grader can't cross alone

[14:18] because the cars don't always

[14:19] stop.

[14:20] >> The crosswalk's could lose

[14:22] use lights. We're looking at

[14:23] that as well.

[14:25] >> So in your opinion --

[14:26] >> The school zone is not very

[14:28] well identified.

[14:29] >> Have you guys identified all

[14:30] this? Because it's really good.

[14:31] It's really interesting. Have

[14:33] you put it all down?

[14:36] >> Now it's just about. Again

[14:37] >> Please keep going. I'm very

[14:39] interested, because I have heard

[14:40] that it has dissuaded activity,

[14:43] physical activity, like you

[14:45] walking to school. I don't know

[14:46] if that's true or not.

[14:48] >> We don't bike to school

[14:50] because it's either a detour or

[14:53] it's too dangerous.

[14:55] >> Curious to hear more. Thank

[14:57] you.

[15:06] >> Yes, Mister Mayor. Mister

[15:14] Mayor. So, before I posed my

[15:19] question, I would just like to

[15:23] thank madame Lafarge. Have you

[15:25] read your Dickens, tale of two

[15:28] cities? You are knitting, which

[15:29] is an interesting underlining

[15:32] for a broken council which needs

[15:33] to be taken out on tumbles and

[15:36] perhaps a few heads should roll.

[15:39] Thank you, Madam leverage, that

[15:43] is my question. Life is a

[15:45] metaphor. Anyway, we need the

[15:48] law forages and we can use this

[15:51] cars as well. So my question is

[15:54] along the following lines, a. We

[16:00] all know that there has been

[16:02] turbulence in the running of the

[16:03] affairs of Pointe-Claire council

[16:06] to the extent that one of our

[16:09] esteemed members has resigned. I

[16:12] assume that it was intimidation

[16:13] and even death threats, because

[16:17] nobody resigns from Council. The

[16:20] group plan, there's benefits,

[16:21] and so on and so forth.

[16:23] >> Okay, we don't get any of

[16:24] that, but keep going.

[16:26] >> No offence, Mayor Thomas, but

[16:28] this is the public question

[16:32] period, okay. --

[16:36] >> Sorry, could I get your name,

[16:37] please?

[16:38] >> Of course. Jeremy, with a

[16:42] why, Jeremy Searle. I ran in the

[16:47] last Pointe-Claire election in

[16:49] district five. I was completely

[16:51] crushed by Cynthia Homan. I got

[16:54] 26%, she got the rest. And, yes

[16:57] I will be running in district

[16:59] one in the next one, hopefully

[17:01] getting 27 or plus percent. But

[17:03] we shall see about that. My

[17:05] question is the following. Given

[17:09] the air of improvisation and

[17:12] head banging and so on in

[17:14] council, history tells us that

[17:18] these differences divide two

[17:23] houses both lacking dignity. If

[17:27] you remember Romeo and Juliet.

[17:30] Basically, there needs to be a

[17:31] bit of bloodshed. The usual way

[17:34] of resolving this, much as a

[17:39] federal government, such as the

[17:40] NDP decides to stop supporting

[17:42] the Liberals, there will be a

[17:44] general election to let the

[17:45] people decide who they want. So

[17:47] I'm going to pose this question,

[17:49] and since he seems to be at the

[17:51] root of all this, I'm going to,

[17:54] what Lisa noisy, as the most

[17:55] outspoken, I'm going to pause my

[17:57] question to Brent Cowan. My

[18:00] question is this. Assuming I am

[18:04] right and that there is this

[18:07] discord, all sorts of stuff

[18:09] going on, inability to do

[18:11] business in a sensible fraternal

[18:13] way on Council, would you

[18:18] consider counselling, I believe

[18:20] there are five of them, five

[18:23] dissident colleagues to resign

[18:25] ensemble or, to give Mayor

[18:28] Thomas the opportunity to the

[18:30] same so that there can be a new

[18:31] election in Pointe-Claire so

[18:33] that people could decide who

[18:35] they want to represent them

[18:37] rather than just this inviting.

[18:40] That's my question. When you

[18:42] consider, all of you resigning.

[18:44] Thank you.

[18:45] >> Of course they won't, that's

[18:46] the point of the question.

[18:49] They're not gonna do something

[18:52] honourable. Of course it's a

[18:54] good idea, that's why I'm asking

[18:55] it. But he's going to say no.

[18:57] Because he wants the money.

[18:58] Anyway, Cohen.

[18:59] >> Are you asking me or Brent

[19:03] Cowan?

[19:04] >> I'm asking Mr. Cowan, because

[19:05] he's the problem, not you.

[19:06] You're not creating a problem,

[19:07] near the Mayor. He's the

[19:08] troublemaker, and his

[19:10] colleagues. Six of them ensemble

[19:12] are.

[19:14] >> Excuse me, Mister Searle, I

[19:16] would remind people in the

[19:17] audience to refrain from

[19:19] comments while the person is

[19:21] asking a question. Thank you,

[19:23] Mr. Searle.

[19:24] >> Very kind, very kind. I love

[19:26] that. I prefer the comments,

[19:29] would carry on.

[19:33] >> Councillor Cowan?

[19:34] >> Do you wish me to answer,

[19:36] Mister Mayor?

[19:37] >> If the public question

[19:39] period, what else you gonna do?

[19:40] >> I can't possibly compete with

[19:43] you, Jeremy Searle. I see you do

[19:46] the pulpit.

[19:47] >> I believe I am allowed a

[19:49] supplementary question on the

[19:51] grounds that it's on the same

[19:52] subject as the primary question?

[19:56] Is that okay, Mister Mayor?

[19:59] >> Okay. Sometimes I devolve

[20:02] into the secondary character, of

[20:04] Mickey Mouse, oh okay. My

[20:07] secondary question, Mr. Thomas,

[20:08] is the following. If your

[20:12] erstwhile Madame Lafarge,

[20:14] avoiding colleagues because they

[20:15] all know they're going to the

[20:17] guillotine when the next

[20:18] election comes, were to choose

[20:21] to resign so is to create a new

[20:23] election, would you consider

[20:25] going along with them so it

[20:27] could be a clean sweep and allow

[20:29] Pointe-Claire to decide who

[20:31] wants to actually run it? Before

[20:33] you answer the question, I would

[20:35] say that the average citizen,

[20:36] like myself, not citizen,

[20:38] resident, because the citizens

[20:40] pay attack the taxes they don't

[20:42] get the vote, the residents like

[20:44] myself, we want to council which

[20:46] is active. We don't want one

[20:48] that's fighting among themselves

[20:49] and coming out with stilling

[20:51] silly, things getting a member

[20:53] to resign. If all the others,

[20:54] brothers, sisters, were to

[20:56] resign, would you, Mayor Thomas,

[20:58] resign with them and call a

[20:59] complete new election so we can

[21:00] find out who we want to run it?

[21:04] >> You never stop amazing, me

[21:06] Mr. Searle. That's an

[21:08] interesting question. First of

[21:09] all, let me thank you for your

[21:10] commitment to democracy by

[21:12] agreeing to run in district one.

[21:14] I thank you for that. And can I

[21:21] consider -- it's not a

[21:22] completely outlandish

[21:24] proposition, in its own bizarre

[21:25] way. If I roll my head around

[21:27] it. The prospect doesn't

[21:29] frighten me, so I can't say yes

[21:31] or no. Give me some time to

[21:34] think about it. It's an

[21:36] interesting suggestion.

[21:37] >> Thank you very well, Mayor

[21:41] Thomas. It's a Mickey Mouse

[21:43] thing again.

[21:44] >> Thank you, Mr. Searle.

[21:48] [Applause]

[21:49] >> Hi, good evening, Wendy

[21:50] cruelly, district three. I have

[21:52] a question for --

[21:54] >> Excuse me, can you state your

[21:55] name?

[21:56] >> Wendy cruelly.

[21:57] >> Into the microphone, Miss

[21:58] crawly?

[21:59] >> Is this good? Can you hear?

[22:01] Me perfect. I have a question

[22:04] for Mr. Thibault. Since former

[22:06] and current members of Council

[22:07] have been attacked for their

[22:10] words recently and I would like

[22:13] to take the ongoing discussion

[22:15] away from the gossip that is

[22:16] going on, I was wondering if you

[22:19] could confirm which number of

[22:21] the council has attended the

[22:23] least number of meeting since

[22:25] 20,000 teen, from the council

[22:27] members elected since that time

[22:28] of course? I think this has is

[22:30] needed, as it is quantifiable

[22:32] and would speak to

[22:34] accountability and collaborative

[22:37] nurse.

[22:38] >> You said 17 2017? You are

[22:42] elected in 2021, so I just want

[22:45] to make sure we are on the same

[22:48] page.

[22:49] >> Many were elected since 2017.

[22:52] >> I think I have the minutes

[22:55] since 2017.

[22:56] >> Could we have that next

[22:57] council meeting?

[22:58] >> Yeah, of course.

[22:59] >> Perfect, thank you. Thanks.

[23:01] And in the same vein I just want

[23:03] to go to council and is there

[23:05] anyone on council who can give

[23:06] me the attendance records of the

[23:08] current council members for our

[23:10] meetings, including caucus

[23:12] meetings? With that be possible?

[23:16] >> Can anybody give attendance

[23:18] records for councillors? For all

[23:22] workers -- well, somebody would

[23:24] have to have recorded it.

[23:28] >> I think we all assume that

[23:30] councillors are going to our

[23:32] meetings and they are not

[23:33] always. Could I have, that next?

[23:37] >> Would you like committee

[23:39] meetings as well?

[23:40] >> Yes. I'll take it all. Sorry.

[23:44] >> I've publishing with my

[23:46] microphone sorry so what you

[23:49] want is all the presents for

[23:56] caucus meetings as well?

[23:57] >> Caucus as well.

[23:59] >> And all our committees, or

[24:01] just caucus meetings and public

[24:03] meetings?

[24:04] >> All meetings. I will take all

[24:06] of them.

[24:08] >> All meetings, so all

[24:11] committees --

[24:12] >> For anything the councillors

[24:13] need to be at that we would

[24:14] expect the councillors to be

[24:15] that.

[24:17] >> As a member caucus meeting a

[24:22] public meeting or on the same

[24:24] page.

[24:25] >> Just for clarity, we are only

[24:27] legally obliged to attend public

[24:30] council meetings and all the

[24:32] other meetings we attend because

[24:33] we are working for our citizens

[24:35] and passionate about the job we

[24:37] do and dedicated to make sure

[24:38] that things move forward.

[24:41] >> Councillor stand forth, I

[24:43] think you have to wait for

[24:44] permission to speak from

[24:49] permission to chair for.

[24:50] >> Thank you.

[24:51] >> Thank you for your question.

[24:58] [Applause]

[25:02] >> Point of order, there is no

[25:04] clapping.

[25:07] >> Good evening. My name is

[25:09] Sandra Mackay. I live in

[25:11] Pointe-Claire, in district two.

[25:13] I have two daughters, and like

[25:18] seven 74% of Quebecers are

[25:19] extremely concerned about

[25:20] climate change. And of course we

[25:23] see the extreme weather

[25:27] flooding, California, we have

[25:29] the hurricane in the Maritimes

[25:33] and obviously climate change is

[25:35] the greatest threat of our

[25:38] existence on this planet. In

[25:41] light of the recent cop 15,

[25:43] where the goal was to preserve

[25:46] 30% of land and 30% of ocean by

[25:49] 2030, I wanted to ask each of

[25:53] the councillors, and you, Mister

[25:55] Mayor, what actions you will

[25:58] take to protect our biodiversity

[26:01] and our forests so that we don't

[26:03] have to face more of this

[26:06] situation.

[26:08] >> Okay. Well, we've started

[26:11] fairly well. We have an RCI on

[26:14] the -- we have development

[26:18] freezes on the shopping centres

[26:20] and commercial villages. We are

[26:22] in a period of reflection where

[26:23] we can demand various building

[26:27] products, practices, that will

[26:30] Greater respect environmental

[26:31] standards. We have before us an

[26:33] opportunity to effect change

[26:36] environmentally in what proceeds

[26:37] intercity going forward for the

[26:39] next period. I am hoping we

[26:41] won't waste that opportunity and

[26:43] that we will, in fact, exact

[26:46] standards and practices that

[26:47] will protect this beautiful

[26:49] environment of ours.

[26:51] >> Thank you.

[26:52] >> Kelly, yes?

[26:53] >> And president of sustainable

[26:55] development committee and I

[26:56] invite you also in addition to

[26:57] what has been said, we do have a

[27:00] strategic plan. It needs to be

[27:02] updated, and we will work on it

[27:04] with our city colleagues as well

[27:06] as the committee. But there are

[27:09] different actions and strategies

[27:11] with regards to water, for us to

[27:15] present preservation, dividend

[27:16] issued eaves, biodiversity, so

[27:18] many in so many different

[27:19] categories that it has been

[27:20] broken down and we are looking

[27:22] at how it's transverse lacrosse

[27:26] everything throughout the city,

[27:27] which it was designed initially

[27:29] to do that. We're updating it to

[27:31] get give more details that you

[27:33] can see, especially when you

[27:35] mentioned the biodiversity and

[27:36] making sure we have a good

[27:37] balance. As a preoccupation of

[27:39] the committee, and we have

[27:41] excellent individuals who have

[27:42] joined our committee to help

[27:43] move it forward in the upcoming

[27:46] year.

[27:48] >> Councillor stark?

[27:50] >> As a member of the pack

[27:52] committee, I can state that

[27:55] every project that comes work

[27:56] muddy is reviewed

[27:58] environmentally for

[27:59] acclimatization I can tell you

[28:00] from myself that every project

[28:01] that I look at I look at a net

[28:04] positive gain on every project

[28:06] if we move something we should

[28:07] not be going backwards for

[28:10] climate change. Every project

[28:11] has to be one that existed. We

[28:13] cannot be taking things away, we

[28:15] have to stay neutral or gain

[28:19] environmental advantages from

[28:20] every project. It's a work in

[28:22] progress. Sometimes there are

[28:23] trade-offs in terms of

[28:24] additional parking for a family

[28:26] versus, but we try to find

[28:28] proper trade-offs and advance

[28:30] forward. That being said, just

[28:32] to reiterate, every -- should be

[28:35] net positive. You can't go.

[28:36] Backwards talk about shopping

[28:37] malls for example I mean at the

[28:39] end of the day these are cement

[28:41] jungles in whatever can be done

[28:43] is better than what is currently

[28:46] there.

[28:47] >> Thank you. To any of the

[28:49] other councillors have any other

[28:51] comments that they would want to

[28:54] share? Because I assume you all

[28:56] vote?

[28:57] >> I don't mind comment to get

[28:58] all. As a long time

[29:01] environmental activist one of

[29:02] the reasons I decided to run was

[29:05] to help promote even further

[29:08] environmental action within the

[29:11] city. I think one of the

[29:12] important things that we have to

[29:14] look at when we're making

[29:16] decisions, whether we are

[29:17] administrators or residents or

[29:19] politicians is to learn to

[29:22] relate in a different manner to

[29:24] nature, is to be able to

[29:25] understand the natural cycles

[29:27] that exist, to work with Arab

[29:29] and create an environment where

[29:30] we are better connected with

[29:32] what is going on. One of the

[29:35] things I would like to push

[29:37] forward in Council, and I have

[29:39] received positive comments in it

[29:41] on it, is to find ways of

[29:43] designating, for instance,

[29:45] Pointe-Claire is a bird friendly

[29:46] city. By doing this we are

[29:49] creating environmental habitats

[29:51] that support life other than

[29:53] ours, and the more we do that

[29:54] the war we are going to

[29:57] structure every development,

[29:58] every decision we make around

[29:59] those other beings that matter

[30:01] to us, because we evolved with

[30:03] them. So I am constantly active.

[30:07] I work with Kelly on the

[30:09] environment committee, and at

[30:13] some point it's something that

[30:14] and I have to admit it is a

[30:17] difficult problem. It is very

[30:19] large. Climate change involves

[30:21] not just the municipal

[30:24] government that is here today

[30:26] but also provincial and federal

[30:28] governments, and we really need

[30:29] to find a way to work together

[30:32] with this on all levels. Also

[30:34] from a point of view of

[30:37] expectations, in terms of what

[30:39] we consume, our everyday

[30:40] actions. And how we develop.

[30:43] That is a very critical thing

[30:45] going forward. So I appreciate

[30:47] your question. I don't want to

[30:49] take up all the time on this,

[30:51] but I did want to speak to it.

[30:56] >> Thank you.

[30:58] >> Thank you very. Much

[31:05] >> I like this.

[31:07] >> Susan Weaver, Pointe-Claire.

[31:09] I have one pre-lack preamble, no

[31:11] question which is about three

[31:12] minutes, and one question. I

[31:15] would not normally talk about an

[31:18] incident that happened four

[31:19] months ago, but it has come up

[31:20] at every council meeting since,

[31:22] and you mentioned it in the

[31:24] media again this past week.

[31:27] After September six council

[31:28] meeting, I also remained in the

[31:30] parking lot with another person.

[31:32] We stopped and asked the

[31:33] developer about his action

[31:35] during Council meeting, and the

[31:37] project in general. I have

[31:39] followed this project for years,

[31:40] so I wanted to know more about

[31:42] the trees, ditch, and flooding.

[31:45] He spoke with us, and he was not

[31:47] angry. He regretted shouting out

[31:49] during the meeting. Our

[31:52] conversation continued on about

[31:53] the project. He left, and so did

[31:55] we. On the way to my car, I

[31:58] passed by your group and Bruno

[32:02] Tremblay, who was with, you

[32:03] acknowledged I was leaving. I

[32:05] saw nothing occur in the parking

[32:07] lot while I was there, and I was

[32:08] there quite a while. It's

[32:10] subsequent Council meetings you

[32:11] mentioned that the developer

[32:14] accosted Miss Tedford in the

[32:15] parking lot. Bridget washed and

[32:18] said she called police security

[32:20] because -- you changed the story

[32:22] several times as to whether

[32:24] there was a report or not. There

[32:26] is no report, because a citizen

[32:29] requested access to information

[32:30] and it verified that there was

[32:34] none. I asked to people, one who

[32:35] was an official, what happened

[32:37] in the parking lot and both Toby

[32:39] nothing happened. And November

[32:41] council meeting you said they

[32:42] ran away from the situation. You

[32:45] ran away rather than standing

[32:46] our ground instead of handling

[32:48] the situation you ran away,

[32:50] showing again you are not fit

[32:52] for office. As for Miss Tedford

[32:56] resignation, I commend her for

[32:57] doing was best for herself. She

[32:59] can remain true to her

[33:01] convictions and participate

[33:02] fully as a citizen. You took the

[33:04] opportunity to exploit a

[33:06] resignation so that you could

[33:07] further promote yourself through

[33:08] the media. Councillors in other

[33:10] cities have resigned from their

[33:12] posts with only a small blurb in

[33:14] the newspaper. Furthermore, I

[33:16] think that I can say with

[33:18] confidence that all councillors

[33:20] are concerned about the

[33:21] environment. It's where we are

[33:22] live. Sustainability is more

[33:24] complex. Be it environmental,

[33:26] social, or economic. They have

[33:28] to find the best way to make it

[33:30] work, unlike you, who's only

[33:32] interest in promotion. You have

[33:34] shown your disdain for the

[33:36] office, Pointe-Claire, and

[33:38] politics repeatedly over this

[33:39] last year. A toxic workplace may

[33:41] be the result of bad leadership.

[33:44] And I'm going to add to this,

[33:46] this morning you stated in an

[33:47] interview, twice, and the

[33:49] developer followed you into the

[33:50] parking lot. Absolutely false.

[33:53] We stopped the developer when he

[33:55] exited and spoke with him for a

[33:56] good minute. Now my question, my

[33:59] next question is, you stated in

[34:01] a December newspaper article

[34:02] that you facilitated appeal to

[34:05] allow a medical center to be

[34:08] built on to former

[34:09] cardiologists. How did you

[34:11] facilitate this expropriation

[34:12] between the provincial

[34:15] government and --? And what has

[34:17] happened to the brevity a

[34:18] lawsuit against Pointe-Claire?

[34:22] >> Okay, Miss Weaver, your

[34:24] question, Miss Weaver is a smear

[34:26] and completely and utterly

[34:29] dishonest and it is such

[34:30] dishonesty and attempts to smear

[34:32] that you do repetitively that

[34:33] are at the heart of the toxicity

[34:36] that prevails in current

[34:39] Pointe-Claire politics, and

[34:40] you've demonstrated where the

[34:41] problem lies. I will give you

[34:44] honest and courteous answers to

[34:46] your smear. There is a report,

[34:49] there is a recording of the

[34:51] incident. An actual tape

[34:53] recording of a phone call and

[34:55] Bridget speaking to Public

[34:58] Security clarifying exactly what

[34:59] was occurring, and it's on

[35:00] record. That telephone call is

[35:02] on record, just for your

[35:04] information. As to the actual

[35:08] event itself, it's very

[35:10] interesting. I thought it was

[35:13] available, as mayor of

[35:16] Pointe-Claire not to be involved

[35:17] in a shouting match with a

[35:18] developer in a parking lot. I

[35:20] thought that was good judgment.

[35:21] You may disagree but I stand by

[35:24] my actions. That's not

[35:26] cowardice, it means avoiding

[35:30] serious trouble and bringing

[35:31] this honour to the office. As to

[35:32] the end results, and missed

[35:34] Tedford, you'll have to speak to

[35:36] her on what impact that had on

[35:38] her before you make such

[35:40] decisions. I know her personally

[35:42] and I know the impact that event

[35:45] had, and it head on all of us,

[35:47] especially Miss Watson, and you

[35:49] may discounted as nothing, but

[35:50] it wasn't nothing in their

[35:52] minds, because I wasn't there

[35:54] until the end. And for your

[35:55] information, after you left I

[35:57] was still there, and this

[35:59] occurred after I had left. The

[36:01] worst of it occurred after I had

[36:02] left. So you and I don't have

[36:05] enough information to speak

[36:06] confidently about this. But

[36:08] certainly a lot of people were

[36:09] upset by the incident we can't

[36:11] discount the fact that they were

[36:12] upset. As for the media

[36:18] opportunities, I gave all the

[36:22] interviews to Aaron, I wanted

[36:23] her to do all the interviews. I

[36:25] was asked to do the repeatedly,

[36:28] and I was pushed into the task,

[36:30] which I felt was necessary to

[36:34] explain and Erin had first right

[36:35] of refusal in all interviews, a

[36:37] couple of which he did with me.

[36:39] So I never eagerly went out and

[36:40] got them. As for Brevia, about

[36:44] two months into my mandate I was

[36:46] going to my regular Cs meeting,

[36:48] which we had on COVID. We always

[36:51] had Cs meetings where I meet

[36:53] with some of the people from

[36:54] CBS. And the other mayors and we

[36:56] will talk about the numbers of

[36:59] what was going on in our

[37:02] municipalities and with all

[37:03] statistics. They were great,

[37:04] they were interesting. Then one

[37:05] morning, I think after

[37:07] Christmas, I clicked on my

[37:09] computer and I was sitting there

[37:11] and I thought it was a regular

[37:13] Cs meeting and I was with a

[37:14] couple of deputy ministers and

[37:17] Leon it was just me and no other

[37:19] mayors and they said Mayor

[37:20] Thomas we are thinking about

[37:22] putting up a health care

[37:24] facility in your municipality

[37:26] and gave me some of the details

[37:28] announced if there were any

[37:29] potential sites that I thought

[37:31] would be good sites. The light

[37:34] bulb went off in my head, and I

[37:37] thought well, the most disliked

[37:39] condominium proposal in the city

[37:40] wouldn't be a bad place for a

[37:43] public health care institution.

[37:44] And I thought it was quite

[37:46] clever of me. I suggested it,

[37:47] and I don't know if my

[37:49] suggestion helped or hindered,

[37:50] but it did happen. So I think I

[37:52] might have had some impact on

[37:53] the process. So those are my

[37:56] answers to your not very polite

[37:59] question, as always. That's

[38:02] okay, Councillor Stork -- I've

[38:08] been asked a question.

[38:09] >> Point of order. Am I allowed

[38:14] to reply?

[38:15] >> Yes.

[38:16] >> Okay, thank you. Mayor

[38:18] Thomas, I agree with you, but I

[38:20] don't fully agree with the

[38:24] discussion with how she said,

[38:25] and what she said it, but I like

[38:26] to be fair to all, the gentlemen

[38:28] before here, Mr. Searle, in

[38:30] front of all of us spoke about

[38:32] six councillors and --

[38:34] >> He said. Five

[38:36] >> Six of us, basically said

[38:38] that he will go to the

[38:40] guillotine the next election. If

[38:42] that is except of behaviour on

[38:44] your behalf and you did not take

[38:46] that opportunity to question

[38:47] that. So please --

[38:50] >> It's an interesting comment.

[38:51] >> I'm not finished yet.

[38:53] >> Okay.

[38:54] >> Now I'm finished.

[38:55] >> Thank you. Your point is well

[38:59] taken, it Councillor Stork. I

[39:00] think Mr. Searle was on record,

[39:03] and if he has done something

[39:04] that is crossing the line,

[39:07] legally or criminally, I am

[39:09] certain that the action, the

[39:11] subsequent actions will occur.

[39:13] You are right, though, it's

[39:14] probably not a good way to talk.

[39:16] It was hard to discern and break

[39:19] through everything that he was

[39:20] saying in one shot, and it was

[39:23] quite theatrical, but you are

[39:24] right. In the end, it's not a

[39:26] good thing to imply, that's for

[39:28] darn sure. Yes, ma'am?

[39:31] >> Sorry, point of privilege,

[39:32] Mister Mayor? Only because Mrs.

[39:36] Weaver brought up my name

[39:38] regarding events took place in

[39:39] the parking lot. I was

[39:41] definitely present and I can, if

[39:43] you allow me to describe the

[39:45] events of that evening, the

[39:48] mayor was absolutely correct and

[39:49] raising them as an issue,

[39:51] something we should be concerned

[39:53] about. If I follow the sequence

[39:54] of events carefully you'll

[39:56] understand the alarm that we

[40:00] felt when it occurred.

[40:08] During the meeting this Tedford

[40:12] was explaining her view

[40:13] regarding the project, and at

[40:14] the time the gentleman in

[40:15] question here, I forget his

[40:18] name, objected to what she was

[40:21] saying. It was something from

[40:23] the audience. From my assessment

[40:26] it unnerved missed had furred

[40:29] during the process of real

[40:30] explanation. As for the question

[40:32] period in these meetings are

[40:34] somewhat raucous and difficult

[40:36] to sit through for all of us,

[40:39] and probably for some members of

[40:41] the audience's. He was a

[40:43] difficult and long night. My

[40:46] understanding, and here I will

[40:48] use the term that was used by a

[40:50] gentleman in the audience

[40:53] recently regarding hearsay, was,

[40:55] when I was in the parking lot I

[40:57] heard that the gentleman in

[40:59] question had had a shouting

[41:00] match with somebody who was in

[41:02] the audience here on his way

[41:04] out, which I had heard about.

[41:06] Someone mentioned it to me. So

[41:08] there were, I think in our

[41:09] minds, already two situations

[41:11] that were a little worrisome

[41:13] when you have somebody who was

[41:14] upset at that level. Following

[41:18] that, we were outside just

[41:20] speaking about the evening. I

[41:21] remember it was a nice September

[41:24] evening. It was nice to be

[41:25] outside in the warmer air. We

[41:27] were talking about the night,

[41:29] generally speaking, and I think

[41:32] the gentleman was busy speaking

[41:33] to, if I'm not Miss they can, it

[41:36] was you, Tara, outside --

[41:41] [Inaudible]

[41:46] >> And so what happened, while

[41:48] we didn't were discussing I

[41:49] noticed I think it was a smaller

[41:51] CV go by and I noticed that it

[41:55] was and I was thinking to myself

[41:57] he's left the room. But then he

[41:59] just parked a little distance

[42:02] away and came back. At that

[42:05] point, with arms folded was

[42:08] repeatedly asking the same

[42:11] question, over and over.

[42:17] Actually, he was actually making

[42:22] the same statement that he was

[42:24] making here, that there were

[42:29] falsities, that he was being

[42:32] mischaracterized in terms of the

[42:33] things he was saying. I asked

[42:34] him if he could just give us

[42:37] some time, this wasn't

[42:39] necessarily the forum to be

[42:40] speaking about this right now. I

[42:45] asked on several occasions for

[42:46] him to stop, and he wouldn't.

[42:48] And he persisted. To the point

[42:53] where

[43:00] -- sorry. To the point where

[43:06] Miss Watson begin to wonder what

[43:08] we should do. She called

[43:12] security. So he was definitely

[43:14] persistent. It was definitely

[43:16] inappropriate. It was under vein

[43:18] to have somebody constantly

[43:19] speaking to you and insisting on

[43:23] speaking when we asked very

[43:24] politely, I did ask group lately

[43:28] that we ended. And it was, I

[43:30] think, a difficult moment for

[43:32] Council or Tedford for the time

[43:37] as well. We don't like that when

[43:39] we go outside, to have people

[43:42] come up towards that way and

[43:43] talk to us when we don't want

[43:45] it. And we have the right to ask

[43:47] someone to stop.

[43:51] >> Thank you Councillor

[43:56] Tremblay. Next question?

[43:59] >> Sandy fuller, Pointe-Claire.

[44:00] >> Mayor Thomas, councillors,

[44:06] listening to the clip on the

[44:08] radio -- can you hear me?

[44:10] Listening to the CJ de this

[44:12] morning I heard the clip and

[44:14] there was one statement that you

[44:16] had mentioned that really caught

[44:20] my ear. It was I'm stuck here

[44:26] for another three years. You are

[44:30] not stuck here, Mayor Thomas.

[44:34] You can resign anytime you like.

[44:38] But to have used that statement,

[44:41] I'm stuck here, for the next

[44:43] three years, didn't leave me

[44:44] with a very confident feeling. I

[44:49] feel that your interest in being

[44:53] the Mayor is not really there.

[44:56] >> Is that your question?

[44:57] >> No, that's not my question.

[45:00] My question is, could you please

[45:05] elaborate on your job back in

[45:07] Ottawa when you are working with

[45:10] the privy council? Can you

[45:13] explain what your position was,

[45:14] just so we can all understand

[45:16] what it was?

[45:17] >> Sure, absolutely. But let me

[45:21] address your C.A.D. comment,

[45:23] because it is often a dishonest

[45:25] way of structuring language, you

[45:28] take it out of context and make

[45:29] it sound worse than it is. I was

[45:33] joking with Eli us, who I know.

[45:36] He was saying, he was saying

[45:39] would you want to leave, we are

[45:42] contemplating leaving? And I

[45:44] said that my son has taken over

[45:47] my former job, my business, my

[45:49] other son runs my business, and

[45:51] incidentally, I have not worked

[45:52] a day in that business since I

[45:54] became mayor. I have worked as

[45:56] mayor full-time. My son, who has

[45:57] taken over the business and

[45:59] operated it beautifully, has

[46:02] really grown to like it. So you

[46:05] are stuck with me for three

[46:06] years, is how it was said, that

[46:10] was the context. And it was

[46:12] funny, and he laughed. As to the

[46:15] drop in the Privy Council

[46:16] Office, I was charged with

[46:18] writing Policy briefs on Québec

[46:21] issues.

[46:22] >> What does that mean?

[46:23] >> You write for a five page

[46:24] note that goes to the cabinet

[46:25] and prime minister. You write an

[46:26] analysis of an issue and you

[46:29] suggest what you you describe

[46:31] the problem is you suggest, you

[46:33] give a recommendation of what

[46:34] you think they should do. I did

[46:35] all of those Québec briefs with

[46:37] a woman named Joanne Gagnon, and

[46:41] we were the senior in the office

[46:45] of Canada inter governmental

[46:46] relations, my boss was staff and

[46:48] the on. His boss was John White

[46:50] Pierre. I also had to write all

[46:53] the letters, the responses,

[46:55] written in English to the prime

[46:57] minister and to Mr. Diane at the

[47:01] time that he wrote them. I wrote

[47:02] back, usually, which is not fun,

[47:05] but a challenging part of the

[47:06] job. But the policy briefs were

[47:09] quite enjoyable. The policy

[47:10] briefs racially influencing

[47:12] government decision-making. And

[47:13] it was quite an honour. As you

[47:14] may or may not know, I was

[47:17] extensively published on Québec

[47:18] politics. I was probably most

[47:20] prolific of my generation. That

[47:22] can all be tracked back and

[47:23] raise. And you can go into

[47:25] library and find my research and

[47:27] all my publications and all my

[47:30] articles in middle in journals.

[47:32] That's why I was given a job of

[47:35] such prestige. And it was,

[47:36] excuse me, I'm still talking, it

[47:37] was an honour to do, it and I

[47:38] did it well, and entered the

[47:41] timeframe that I was in that

[47:42] role we had absolutely no Québec

[47:43] scandals, and Matthew Mendelsohn

[47:47] and I were brought. In Matthew

[47:48] was a numbers cruncher. Is

[47:51] currently teaching at Queen's.

[47:53] Matthew Mendelsohn and I were

[47:54] brought in after the back 95

[47:58] referendum to try to gives

[47:59] stability to the policy briefing

[48:01] in Québec. I think we did a

[48:03] pretty good job. You can check

[48:06] all this. In fact, get a

[48:08] detective, go and find it all.

[48:10] I'm actually being humble.

[48:12] >> You sound like you really

[48:14] enjoyed what you are doing.

[48:16] >> I enjoyed that, and that's

[48:17] why I'm back doing what I'm

[48:18] doing now. After 25 years I

[48:22] thought I would do well in these

[48:23] my experience and waited too

[48:24] good for the world, given what I

[48:26] have been tartan what I've

[48:27] learned over the years. That's

[48:28] why I'm here now. It's my step

[48:30] back into my former life. I also

[48:33] taught political science for 12

[48:35] years at McGill and it

[48:38] Concordia. So this is a return

[48:40] to my roots, really.

[48:42] >> Was that during the era of my

[48:44] friend Paul Tellier?

[48:45] >> Yes. He wasn't there when I

[48:48] was there but he was around that

[48:50] timeframe.

[48:51] >> Okay, thank you.

[48:52] >> Thank you.

[49:04] >> Hello Council and attendees.

[49:07] My name is Ray Cole low from

[49:11] Pointe-Claire. I have one

[49:12] preamble and one question. It's

[49:13] on the subject of Columbus

[49:18] Street in District district 8,

[49:20] Oneida, which I lived in since

[49:22] 96. The question and comments

[49:24] are addressed to the Mayor, but

[49:26] anyone else is welcome to weigh

[49:29] in. Formally I brought up the

[49:32] question on the November meeting

[49:34] in 2022. I was told that it

[49:36] depends on how the rest of

[49:37] Council feels, from the response

[49:40] I got from you. The honest

[49:42] answer is, regardless of how

[49:44] anyone else feels on the

[49:45] subject. The historical record

[49:47] now shows that unequivocally

[49:49] proven by facts, vetted by

[49:52] credited institutions, that

[49:53] Christopher Columbus was

[49:54] responsible for genocide of the

[49:57] Toronto people and crimes

[49:59] against Indigenous people in the

[50:01] name of greed and conquest. I

[50:03] drive-by the street every day

[50:04] when I commute, and so does a

[50:06] lot of people in the district.

[50:07] And thousands of people who

[50:08] passed through the district.

[50:11] After speaking with various

[50:12] human rights groups like the red

[50:14] coalition in the Grand chiefs of

[50:16] nearby need communities and even

[50:17] my own professors at Concordia,

[50:19] they are all appalled that this

[50:21] even has to be asked more than

[50:23] once and this street hasn't been

[50:25] renamed already. Given your

[50:27] experience in Ottawa, the answer

[50:28] shouldn't be too hard. I mean

[50:30] the solution shouldn't be too

[50:32] hard to resolve this. The

[50:34] question is basically, will

[50:35] Council vote to have the

[50:38] Columbus Street renamed. Isn't

[50:39] prepared for the consequences

[50:41] that come with defending the

[50:42] legacy of a man now known as the

[50:44] founder of the slave trade?

[50:47] >> That's a heck of a question.

[50:50] And a good one. Apologies. We

[50:53] were somewhat waylaid by your

[50:59] prioritize question really

[51:00] regarding fluoridation, which

[51:01] has kept us pretty busy busy. We

[51:03] are doing our best to get back

[51:04] to. I recall, that absolutely.

[51:06] We should absolutely decide that

[51:07] one in an upcoming meeting.

[51:09] Absolutely. And you are quite

[51:10] right. Do you know if there is a

[51:12] group of residents as well who

[51:15] concur and agree with that? On

[51:18] Columbus Street?

[51:20] >> Shouldn't even matter, given

[51:22] the historical record?

[51:24] >> It needs to be for democracy.

[51:26] I hear you. Yes go ahead,

[51:31] Councillor Kiley.

[51:32] >> The industrial park, there

[51:35] are no residents there.

[51:37] >> Okay.

[51:40] >> 1000 people drive by the

[51:41] street.

[51:42] >> Okay, food for thought.

[51:43] Absolutely. We will approach

[51:44] this in our next meeting.

[51:46] >> I spoke to read coalition and

[51:49] they're gonna take the case.

[51:50] Thanks for your time.

[51:52] >> It's a good point.

[52:04] >>

[52:05] Concernant la COP15 et la

[52:08] protection de l'environnement.

[52:09] Est-ce que la Ville de

[52:12] Pointe-Claire a des rencontres

[52:13] avec la STM, là MTQ, concernant

[52:16] les routes existantes à

[52:18] modifier, à corriger? Pour se

[52:24] préparer à desservir les deux

[52:26] stations du REM à Pointe-Claire,

[52:28] quels sont les travaux pour les

[52:30] changeurs de Saint-Jean à

[52:32] l'issue de la 40?

[52:33] (inaudible)

[52:34] (---)

[52:35] , une piste cyclable sécuritaire

[52:36] pour les piétons, aussi? Pour

[52:40] rejoindre le REM, est-ce que la

[52:42] Ville va continuer d'intégrer

[52:45] les pistes cyclables qui se

[52:48] rendent présentement nulle part,

[52:50] pour se rendre aux deux

[52:51] stations?

[52:53] - On est en train de faire ça on

[52:56] est prêt. Il y a peut-être une

[53:00] bonne solution, mais pas tout de

[53:03] suite. Il y a beaucoup de monde

[53:05] qui travaillent à ce sujet, on a

[53:08] fait de bonnes discussions. On a

[53:10] eu de bonnes discussions, c'est

[53:13] pour de la prospérité. Je ne

[53:15] peux pas dire plus que ça, le

[53:21] résultat du viaduc, c'est une

[53:22] possibilité.

[53:27] - Le 13 décembre, on a vu la

[53:33] réunion. 75% des gens qui

[53:35] restent à Pointe-Claire

[53:36] utilisent leur véhicule pour se

[53:39] rendre, se déplacer dans l'ouest

[53:41] de la ville. À Montréal, on a

[53:46] 56% des gens qui utilisent. Ce

[53:50] serait bon pour l'environnement

[53:51] de corriger cette situation.

[53:54] - Vous avez raison, monsieur

[53:55] Lapointe

[54:01] . Notre système de transport en

[54:04] général n'est pas assez bon.

[54:07] Nous sommes toujours sans

[54:10] besoin.

[54:11] - Concernant le projet de Mazda,

[54:15] ils vont faire les building. Dès

[54:17] qu'il y a des plans pour la

[54:19] réutilisation du sol, comme le

[54:22] processus qu'il y a eu au début.

[54:23] - Bonne question.

[54:27] - Y a-t-il une étude de

[54:29] circulation qui sera faite?

[54:32] S'ils font un hôpital pour

[54:34] personnes âgées ou quelque chose

[54:35] comme ça, il y aura beaucoup

[54:36] d'employés qui seront là.

[54:40] Ça va prendre beaucoup de

[54:41] stationnements.

[54:46] Est-ce que tout ça est pris en

[54:47] considération?

[54:48] - J'espère.

[54:49] (rires)

[54:52] nous ne Sam pas rendu à cette

[54:53] étape. C'est un peu de ministère

[54:58] maintenant. On ne sait pas les

[54:59] mystères.

[55:00] (inaudible)

[55:01] (---)

[55:02] . On ne sait pas tous les

[55:03] détails du projet. On sait

[55:05] presque rien. C'est approprié

[55:06] pour faire ça. C'est tout ce

[55:10] qu'on a, jusqu'à ce moment.

[55:14] - Est-ce que le gouvernement du

[55:15] Québec a droit de veto sur ces

[55:17] décisions?

[55:20] - Probablement, je pense que

[55:21] oui, absolument. C'est le

[55:24] gouvernement du Québec qui

[55:25] décide tout ça.

[55:26] - En ce qui concerne la boîte

[55:28] (inaudible)

[55:29] (---)

[55:30] .

[55:31] - O.K., merci.

[55:32] (inaudible)

[55:33] (---)

[55:34] .

[55:37] - Monsieur Lapointe, vous avez

[55:39] parlé de la STM et des pistes

[55:40] cyclables. On est en train de

[55:42] les travailler, les différentes

[55:43] parties pour les rejoindre et.

[55:44] Il y en a plein qui vont nulle

[55:45] part. Ils vont à des places

[55:51] qu'on ne veut pas aller,

[55:52] clairement. Pour la STM, on a

[55:55] des discussions depuis plusieurs

[55:56] années. Ils sont supposés

[55:59] refaire

[56:00] (inaudible)

[56:01] (---)

[56:02] . Pour refaire les routes

[56:04] d'autobus, pour que les autobus

[56:05] se rendent au REM, pour que ça

[56:09] devienne plus accessible. On

[56:11] s'entend, au 30 minutes, ce

[56:14] n'est pas quelque chose

[56:15] d'accessible. C'est accessible

[56:17] quand on peut sortir de notre

[56:18] maison et on sait en se rendant

[56:20] à l'autobus qu'il y en aura un

[56:22] dans les prochaines dix ou 15

[56:24] minutes. Ça, c'est accessible.

[56:27] On a discuté de ça avec eux. Ils

[56:30] ont mentionné aussi

[56:31] (---)

[56:32] (inaudible)

[56:33] , pour plusieurs autres. On est

[56:34] supposé d'avoir une voie de

[56:35] service sur Saint-Jean. D'un

[56:39] bout à l'autre, avec des

[56:42] lumières comme Pie-IX, pour que

[56:45] les autobus puissent partir

[56:47] avant les autos.

[56:48] (inaudible)

[56:49] (---)

[56:50] .

[56:51] - C'est ça, c'est en discussion

[56:53] avec eux autres. On attend le

[56:57] projet de REM.

[57:00] - La station est déjà là, elle

[57:02] ne changera pas de place demain

[57:03] matin.

[57:05] - Ils sont moins pressés à nous

[57:09] présenter

[57:10] (inaudible)

[57:11] , que le projet est fini. Ça

[57:12] date depuis plusieurs années

[57:13] qu'on discute de tout ça. Tout

[57:15] est discuté avec. Je dis des

[57:16] choses qu'ils nous ont dit par

[57:18] rapport à l'autobus, avec l'voix

[57:22] prioritaire, des possibilités

[57:23] d'avoir des autos et de refaire

[57:25] les routes pour que les gens

[57:27] puissent se rendre au REM plus

[57:30] rapidement, d'avoir un accès un

[57:32] peu plus.

[57:35] - Ça prend 30 minutes pour se

[57:37] rendre au REM... ils vont encore

[57:38] tous prendre le retour.

[57:40] - C'est sûr, absolument. C'est

[57:44] important de comprendre. Nous

[57:52] n'avons pas eu de discussions au

[57:55] sujet du projet

[57:56] (inaudible)

[57:57] , aucune discussion.

[58:38] >> That's good.

[58:41] >> Okay perfect. That process

[58:43] can take six months to three

[58:46] years is a private negotiation.

[58:48] It's fundamental either by doing

[58:50] that expropriation to your

[58:51] point, our decision-making, our

[58:53] involvement in the decision is

[58:54] limited. They will have certain

[58:56] rights that we cannot supersede

[58:58] as a city, but I can tell you

[59:00] and reference to litigation,

[59:02] there are cities that will

[59:03] require it begun as a traffic

[59:05] light at the corner of -- and

[59:07] St. John's, but something needs

[59:08] to be done in that area. But

[59:10] it's a wait and see, and as

[59:12] mayor Thomas mentioned, we'll

[59:13] have to wait and see what we

[59:17] come up with.

[59:19] >> Good evening, Council. Before

[59:24] my two questions, can I give my

[59:27] experience about the drop off at

[59:28] the school, quickly? So, some 15

[59:31] or 20 years ago, the school

[59:33] actually, and literature they

[59:34] give to the parents and the

[59:35] fall, they had like a -- and

[59:39] they show the parents you can

[59:42] show you or drop your kids off

[59:43] at the water tower. So it was

[59:45] promoted by the school, 20 years

[59:46] ago. And my advice is, like,

[59:49] what would happen, I saw this at

[59:51] the end of the school day,

[59:54] parents would come to the water

[59:58] and weed for the school to

[1:00:00] finish in the kids to come. So I

[1:00:01] think the neighbours were

[1:00:02] annoyed and seeing all these

[1:00:04] cars in the morning and also I

[1:00:07] have been there at the end of

[1:00:08] the day waiting for the kids to

[1:00:10] come home. Could be almost like

[1:00:14] half a dozen cars waiting there,

[1:00:15] so I think if there would be

[1:00:17] like signage explaining that you

[1:00:20] are doing that, no U-turns, just

[1:00:23] come around and do it quickly, I

[1:00:26] think if the rules would be a

[1:00:27] bit more clear and promoted by

[1:00:29] the school, the people would

[1:00:31] understand, and would really

[1:00:34] appreciate if that gate would be

[1:00:35] open again. When I want to go

[1:00:37] for a walk to the library or the

[1:00:40] -- I do need to use that route.

[1:00:43] >> Okay. Food for thought. Thank

[1:00:46] you.

[1:00:47] >> It's kind of sad, actually,

[1:00:48] when they locked it, because it

[1:00:52] has become awkward.

[1:01:03] Since mayor Thomas mentioned

[1:01:05] that was to scale back

[1:01:08] development. Opened the side --

[1:01:10] about the population, it was

[1:01:13] announced a couple of months ago

[1:01:15] that the -- but actually it did

[1:01:18] not reach nine billion. And some

[1:01:20] parts of the world they are

[1:01:22] starting to move down, so this

[1:01:23] is something to think about in

[1:01:25] building big cities, back to the

[1:01:31] platform. -- some councillors do

[1:01:33] not appear to be supporting your

[1:01:36] plans, Mister Thomas. The

[1:01:38] platform was transparency, for

[1:01:41] environment and green spaces,

[1:01:42] and especially to link

[1:01:43] development to an appropriate

[1:01:45] level. The six councillors, six

[1:01:48] returning councillors seem to

[1:01:51] hate your plans. At the will of

[1:01:53] the citizens, I voted for you on

[1:01:55] your platform. It appears, Mr.

[1:01:59] Thomas, you only have to

[1:02:02] supporters on council. Aaron

[1:02:08] Tedford, and Bruno Tremblay. I

[1:02:09] witnessed everything going on.

[1:02:11] This is the reason why Erin

[1:02:15] Tedford resigned. They have been

[1:02:17] pro developer. Most vote for

[1:02:19] everything for developers. The

[1:02:21] Question to

[1:02:22] - The returning si dans un parc

[1:02:24] councillors Rights

[1:02:25] -, Lakes

[1:02:26] - Aide you refuting Lakeside

[1:02:27] Heights

[1:02:28] - This it is the will le of the

[1:02:29] citizens who village voted for

[1:02:30] our mayor.

[1:02:33] - Northview any councillors to

[1:02:34] answer?

[1:02:35] - On est that the dans citizens

[1:02:37] - Seigniory

[1:02:38] - Valois

[1:02:40] [Inaudible]

[1:02:41] >> First of all, in terms of

[1:02:43] - Development Tim Thomas

[1:02:44] - It's Monsieur le

[1:02:45] - Maire good development Brent

[1:02:46] Cowen

[1:02:47] - And band of Bruno Tremblay

[1:02:48] - Element and Cynthia I Homan

[1:02:49] - Eric vote Stork

[1:02:50] - Erin

[1:02:52] - Que les so Thorstad-Cullen

[1:02:54] - Paul to Bissonnette

[1:02:55] - Dustin

[1:02:56] -. Fort Caroline Thibault

[1:02:58] - Danielle

[1:02:59] - Séguin Karina Verdon

[1:03:05] >> You mentioned about the

[1:03:07] development, and the one side.

[1:03:10] There's no one side. Yes, they

[1:03:15] did -- on my citizens, I

[1:03:17] represent my citizens. My

[1:03:18] beliefs don't have to be the

[1:03:19] same as is. But we all believe

[1:03:23] in the same thing. We are all

[1:03:26] pro upper development, we are

[1:03:27] all pro environment. How we get

[1:03:29] there, and we decided, I reasons

[1:03:31] on how to do it, and what not to

[1:03:33] do, all these are help getting

[1:03:36] there. Our values haven't

[1:03:37] changed. What we're doing is we

[1:03:40] have different respects and ways

[1:03:42] to get there. To say that I'm

[1:03:45] pro development is false, to say

[1:03:46] that I'm anti environment, is

[1:03:48] false. If you want to sit down

[1:03:50] and talk about, it I'd be more

[1:03:51] than happy.

[1:03:54] >> Evening that Erin showed the

[1:03:57] developers at the September

[1:03:59] meeting, you voted with them.

[1:04:01] And so --

[1:04:04] >> That speaks for itself. I

[1:04:07] voted for a project that was a

[1:04:09] good project that needed to be

[1:04:12] finished. Councillor Stork is

[1:04:16] finished.

[1:04:17] >> To have a question for me?

[1:04:20] >> I have a second question, but

[1:04:25] everybody else

[1:04:26] [Inaudible]

[1:04:27] I have been here, I have

[1:04:28] witnessed everything.

[1:04:30] >> Absolutely, Councillor

[1:04:36] Stainforth.

[1:04:38] >> Everyone on councillors on

[1:04:39] the same page. Some are the

[1:04:41] little for the left, some little

[1:04:42] to the right. As he said, we all

[1:04:43] have different experiences and

[1:04:45] we all see potentially different

[1:04:48] ways of getting to the same

[1:04:49] place, but everybody voted for

[1:04:51] an icy I. Everybody voted to

[1:04:54] redo the urban plan, and

[1:04:56] everyone's practices played

[1:04:57] painting in the strategic plan,

[1:04:58] the urban plan, and we had

[1:05:02] discussions in caucus even just

[1:05:04] tonight talking about tree

[1:05:06] canopy and environment, not

[1:05:09] brought up by mayor Thomas or

[1:05:14] Councillor Tremblay. As you

[1:05:15] would point out that they are

[1:05:17] the environmentalist's. It is

[1:05:18] nothing to do with -- it was

[1:05:20] brought up by someone else on

[1:05:21] Council. I don't think that it's

[1:05:22] fair for you to stand up there

[1:05:24] and say that we are anti

[1:05:26] environment and pro development.

[1:05:28] I voted against the -- project,

[1:05:30] actually. I voted against

[1:05:35] Brevia, I voted against

[1:05:37] Frontenac. When we vote we need

[1:05:39] to based on the criteria if a

[1:05:43] project comes in in the zone to

[1:05:45] certain way we have to vote

[1:05:46] whether or not the project meets

[1:05:48] the criteria. I might not like

[1:05:51] that zoning, but that's not the

[1:05:52] question. There is plenty of

[1:05:54] zoning I did not like on -- but,

[1:05:58] that isn't what I was being

[1:05:59] asked. I was being asked, does

[1:06:03] this project meet the criteria.

[1:06:06] I have to vote according to

[1:06:07] that. I cannot vote according to

[1:06:10] whatever my desire is. If we all

[1:06:13] did that, we will be in

[1:06:15] litigation constantly. And so

[1:06:17] the projects that have come out

[1:06:19] of the RCI have come out because

[1:06:21] when we looked at them they were

[1:06:23] so far down the pipe that they

[1:06:25] would win in court. The chances

[1:06:26] of them winning was extremely

[1:06:28] high. That was from our council

[1:06:31] and outside counsel that we were

[1:06:32] told. So we had to make a

[1:06:34] decision for our citizens, who

[1:06:35] are sitting here, who have seen

[1:06:37] their taxes go up 5.9% plus

[1:06:41] whatever the house evaluation

[1:06:42] went up. If we just keep adding

[1:06:44] on millions of dollars of

[1:06:47] litigation because I vote how I

[1:06:48] feel like voting, that is a huge

[1:06:50] issue. I'm not doing my job and

[1:06:52] I'm not doing a service to you.

[1:06:55] --

[1:06:56] >> No, I'm still speaking. I'm

[1:06:57] not doing a service to. You my

[1:06:58] job is to look at the facts, to

[1:06:59] look at the rules, the

[1:07:01] regulations, the laws, and to

[1:07:03] make the best decision for

[1:07:05] Pointe-Claire. It's not always a

[1:07:06] decision I enjoy making. There

[1:07:08] are decisions I made that I am

[1:07:10] against in the sense of, if I

[1:07:12] could change that zoning I would

[1:07:13] have changed it, but it wasn't

[1:07:15] up to me to change it. The

[1:07:17] project arrived on the table,

[1:07:18] the zoning was as it was. I wish

[1:07:20] it was different, but it wasn't,

[1:07:22] and so I cannot vote against it,

[1:07:24] because that's not what I'm

[1:07:25] being asked. I just want to

[1:07:27] clarify that, because we have

[1:07:29] been villainized, villainized,

[1:07:31] and this week especially in the

[1:07:33] media. We are following

[1:07:36] protocol. We are following the

[1:07:37] rules. We are doing our job and

[1:07:39] we are doing a service to our

[1:07:41] citizens. We have put a pause on

[1:07:44] development so we can review,

[1:07:46] because yes, we agree, there

[1:07:48] were so innings that we felt

[1:07:49] needed to be looked at, needed

[1:07:51] to be revised. The needs has

[1:07:53] changed since 2010. We're

[1:07:55] looking at a different

[1:07:56] environment, a different

[1:07:57] population, things need to

[1:07:59] change. So it's time to sit down

[1:08:00] and change them. There were

[1:08:03] citizens who were unhappy. There

[1:08:05] were Councillors who were

[1:08:06] unhappy with the situation that

[1:08:08] we had before with our old urban

[1:08:11] plan, so before the election,

[1:08:13] even, we said we were going to

[1:08:15] put Ian on RCI. The RCI is not

[1:08:18] something from this councillor,

[1:08:19] something from the previous

[1:08:21] council. So I hope that answers

[1:08:23] your question, because I am

[1:08:25] tired of being told to work with

[1:08:28] the Mayor. I am here working all

[1:08:31] the time. Every day I'm working.

[1:08:33] Every single day, for my

[1:08:35] citizens. I make the best

[1:08:37] decisions for my citizens based

[1:08:39] on information, on research, on

[1:08:41] facts, and what the people who

[1:08:44] are specialized in the City tell

[1:08:46] us as well, because I'm not

[1:08:47] gonna pretend I'm an expert in

[1:08:49] urban planning or in law. That

[1:08:51] is not my expertise. You want to

[1:08:53] talk to me about education, I'll

[1:08:55] chat your ear off. That's my

[1:08:57] extremities. But I've learned a

[1:08:58] lot in these last five years,

[1:09:00] and I've learned who I can rely

[1:09:02] on. We have excellent employees

[1:09:04] here. Excellent employees. They

[1:09:08] have shared their expertise,

[1:09:10] their craft knowledge, with us.

[1:09:12] And that's what we used to make

[1:09:13] our decisions. So I would ask

[1:09:15] that you stop applauding things

[1:09:17] that insult us. I would ask that

[1:09:19] you stop getting up to the mic

[1:09:21] and urging us to work with him.

[1:09:23] This is not a party. We all ran

[1:09:26] individually to represent our

[1:09:29] own districts. As I said, we are

[1:09:31] all on the same page. This

[1:09:34] narrative that there is pro and

[1:09:35] anti in one ever --

[1:09:38] >> When I see P2P Bill voting

[1:09:41] one way and we will voting this

[1:09:43] way bible that way, you're all

[1:09:45] looking at the same bylaws, and

[1:09:48] some of you are going this way,

[1:09:49] some going that way --

[1:09:50] >> And some of us are following

[1:09:53] core protocol.

[1:09:54] >> Miss Conway, you coming off.

[1:09:56] >> Miss Conway, Miss Conway, I

[1:09:58] think you should let Councillor

[1:10:01] Stainforth finish.

[1:10:03] >> Thank you. When I first ran,

[1:10:07] and I was first elected, that

[1:10:09] first year, the first two years,

[1:10:12] you are running like you have a

[1:10:15] blindfold on, the water is

[1:10:16] coming up, there is so much to

[1:10:17] learn. The learning curve is

[1:10:20] huge. Are there votes I may have

[1:10:23] changed in the past? Perhaps,

[1:10:25] with the, knowledge now five

[1:10:27] years later. Like in any job.

[1:10:29] There is a learning curve. There

[1:10:31] is a six month to one year

[1:10:32] learning curve. And so when I

[1:10:34] make my vote and you say oh,

[1:10:36] well there's five against three

[1:10:38] or six against to, well, we are

[1:10:40] voting with the knowledge of

[1:10:42] what we need to vote on. We now

[1:10:44] have that experience. And so I'm

[1:10:47] not saying, I'm not trying to

[1:10:48] throw anyone under the bus here,

[1:10:50] but what I'm seeing here is it's

[1:10:53] not because we are pro this are

[1:10:54] pro that and we want to tear

[1:10:55] down the city of Pointe-Claire

[1:10:57] and put condos up everywhere.

[1:10:58] That has nothing to do with it.

[1:11:00] It's because it says, does this

[1:11:02] meet this criteria. And so we

[1:11:04] are voting, yes it meets this

[1:11:06] criteria. But it is simple as

[1:11:10] that.

[1:11:11] >> Do you have a subsequent

[1:11:13] question, Miss Conway?

[1:11:15] >> I think I will save it for

[1:11:16] another council meeting, but if

[1:11:17] you're all looking at the same

[1:11:19] bylaws, how could the result be

[1:11:21] so different? It's all looking

[1:11:22] at the same bylaws. It's all the

[1:11:24] same logic.

[1:11:25] >> I'll give my two cents as

[1:11:27] well. Developers always threaten

[1:11:29] to sue if you disagree with

[1:11:31] them. Most of them do. If fear

[1:11:35] of litigation rules or

[1:11:37] decision-making, then developers

[1:11:38] will always get what they want.

[1:11:40] Despite the wishes of the

[1:11:42] ordinary citizen. And some of us

[1:11:44] would like to stand up for the

[1:11:46] ordinary citizen as well as the

[1:11:47] developer. That is my goal here.

[1:11:50] Thank you. Yes, sir?

[1:11:57] >>

[1:11:58] - Monsieur le Maire...

[1:12:05] >> Maybe some of you know me. My

[1:12:10] appearance? You do not? Good.

[1:12:13] >> You ran for mayor.

[1:12:14] >> God bless you. So, in short,

[1:12:20] first and before guys, thank you

[1:12:22] very much for such a, I feel

[1:12:25] like back in my 20s, 30s, be

[1:12:30] well I was in murky frost, nor

[1:12:34] tell, tossed into the acidic

[1:12:36] waters and said wow, it's a

[1:12:38] mess. Guys, what is this here?

[1:12:41] We have a lot of problems,

[1:12:43] apparently. Because actually my

[1:12:45] point to come was this stuff,

[1:12:47] Mister Mayor. I took a couple of

[1:12:49] minutes, as you said, my two

[1:12:51] cents worth to go through and

[1:12:53] immediately my findings here,

[1:12:56] they correlate roughly with what

[1:12:57] I heard here. We have an

[1:13:01] increased amounts for spendings

[1:13:02] and partly in between the lines,

[1:13:04] those spendings are for human

[1:13:06] capital. And my point to come

[1:13:08] here was that, I still have my

[1:13:11] pictures, since the time of the

[1:13:14] honourable Mr. -- I approached

[1:13:16] city hall in terms of trying to

[1:13:18] push a bit. Actually you are the

[1:13:20] first to go back to push with

[1:13:24] the so-called smart fitness, I

[1:13:28] Canada approach, and the very

[1:13:30] honourable care for mother

[1:13:31] nature. Or

[1:13:35] So, is very kind to me and said,

[1:13:37] you know, Teddy, I'm too old for

[1:13:39] that. I don't understand that

[1:13:41] mumbo jumbo. Explain to me what

[1:13:42] the says. I was professional and

[1:13:44] said, this is, that this is

[1:13:45] that. Speaking between Irish,

[1:13:48] English, we would build

[1:13:50] something, hopefully. So, thanks

[1:13:53] to his suggestion, actually, I

[1:13:57] started to permanent my yo I,

[1:13:59] expression of interest. And of

[1:14:01] course, job offers. Back at that

[1:14:05] time, there was a tradition

[1:14:07] between him, and Mr. Trudeau, I

[1:14:10] think, at which platform

[1:14:13] appeared for expression of

[1:14:14] interest. For a couple of years

[1:14:17] ago, I noticed that the

[1:14:19] behaviour of that platform is

[1:14:22] jeopardize, which means, it

[1:14:24] would be on you, Mister Mayor.

[1:14:25] You do not have a clear picture.

[1:14:27] You have no clue who, exactly,

[1:14:29] is the candidate. And none of

[1:14:31] the candidates say that they

[1:14:32] come to you. So, I took my time,

[1:14:35] I did some speaking, some

[1:14:37] discussing, getting some

[1:14:39] suggestions as well even things

[1:14:42] that our web based, it is best

[1:14:47] with the tax the guys, the

[1:14:49] schools, driving schools, et

[1:14:50] cetera, and all that happened.

[1:14:52] So, I continue to see that

[1:14:54] nothing is happening. I had time

[1:14:57] to speak with Mr. vase, maybe

[1:15:01] it's Vincent or something, he is

[1:15:03] supposed to be with you guys,

[1:15:04] something that is in charge for

[1:15:05] how you stuff the stuffing. How

[1:15:07] do you do the sub contracting?

[1:15:08] How do you do the transparency?

[1:15:11] The accountability? This is my

[1:15:13] bread and butter. I am a die

[1:15:15] hard like Mr. Thomas, I run my

[1:15:16] own business since 2006. But I'm

[1:15:21] not dull like him in the Arts.

[1:15:23] This is my bread and butter.

[1:15:26] Mister Thomas, in short,

[1:15:29] hopefully it was clear, if you

[1:15:33] just ask me questions. It is

[1:15:35] exactly what is seen inside

[1:15:37] here. It is kept beside from the

[1:15:41] reality. It's a grasp of what

[1:15:43] exactly is ongoing, and for the

[1:15:45] time being, you've never come to

[1:15:46] ask me how to help you. On the

[1:15:48] one side, give me a call over a

[1:15:50] couple of blocks, and I will be

[1:15:51] with you. Thank you for your

[1:15:52] time.

[1:15:53] >> Thank you. Do you have a

[1:15:55] question?

[1:15:56] >> That was. All

[1:15:57] >> Okay. Thank you. I appreciate

[1:15:59] your assessment. I do think I

[1:16:00] know what I'm doing, but thank

[1:16:01] you very much. I will call you

[1:16:02] if I need advice. Thank you.

[1:16:13] >> Good evening there, City

[1:16:14] Council, I live in

[1:16:20] the route, six district seven,

[1:16:23] for six years. The last mayor,

[1:16:31] and City Council, I never saw

[1:16:34] this division before. There was

[1:16:37] always following the mayor, it

[1:16:39] was what he was running for, as

[1:16:43] he came to declare for the West

[1:16:48] Island. Did you know, there's a

[1:16:50] new mayor now? The citizens

[1:16:55] elect to you for your vision.

[1:17:00] First, I would think Aaron for

[1:17:07] recognize it -- for resigning.

[1:17:09] She is a good person, well

[1:17:13] educated, well knowledge, young,

[1:17:17] and we need to be representing

[1:17:20] young people. She refused the

[1:17:23] corruption, she refused to go to

[1:17:27] lunch, or dinner with --

[1:17:30] >> A point of order.

[1:17:32] >> Councillor, you just paraded

[1:17:34] a citizen, which is also over

[1:17:36] the line. Sir. You are not the

[1:17:39] chair of this meeting,

[1:17:40] counsellor stand forth, I am,

[1:17:41] thank you very much, that is my

[1:17:43] call. Please continue, sir.

[1:17:45] >> I am permitted to call points

[1:17:47] of order.

[1:17:48] >> You have called, it and I

[1:17:49] have overruled it. Please

[1:17:50] continue, sir.

[1:17:57] >> I am talking about what she

[1:18:00] said. I'm talking about what she

[1:18:03] said, it's not me. What she said

[1:18:04] in the news, that she refused to

[1:18:07] go to dinner, or dine with -- if

[1:18:16] you, know you can tell me?

[1:18:20] >> What is a question, sir?

[1:18:22] >> Right here, Mr. Cohen, it is

[1:18:29] --

[1:18:30] >> What is it?

[1:18:32] >> That is last year.

[1:18:34] >> Mr., when to privilege, he

[1:18:36] seems to be smearing me.

[1:18:38] >> He hasn't even started yet.

[1:18:40] Let him start.

[1:18:41] >> Secondly, you aren't allowed

[1:18:42] -- to

[1:18:43] >> Excuse me. Councillor --

[1:18:44] >> He hasn't even started yet,

[1:18:46] you're I'm the chair of this

[1:18:47] meeting.

[1:18:48] >> It's against the rules of

[1:18:49] order.

[1:18:50] >> Councillor Cowan, I don't

[1:18:51] know what he is holding up,

[1:18:53] excuse me, could you guys put it

[1:18:57] down, please?

[1:18:58] >> I am just proving what they

[1:19:00] say is promoting the developers,

[1:19:04] and all of the high-rise

[1:19:05] buildings. If you look in the

[1:19:07] newspaper here.

[1:19:08] >> Don't hold it up, but maybe

[1:19:09] you could read something, or

[1:19:10] quote something instead? It

[1:19:11] would be a little more viable

[1:19:12] than holding it up. You are

[1:19:14] supposed to pick it officer,

[1:19:16] Councillor Cowan. Do you have a

[1:19:17] question?

[1:19:19] >> Because, I am answering --

[1:19:21] >> Did we see --

[1:19:23] >> Were saying what Aaron did,

[1:19:25] and what she said. She dedicated

[1:19:32] this to her life. To be with

[1:19:35] here, and for the old world it

[1:19:40] was accepting you. You condemned

[1:19:42] what happened to her. So, that

[1:19:44] is what I am saying. Is that

[1:19:48] what we are supposed to learn

[1:19:49] from? For the people who stand

[1:19:50] up to developers? To be working

[1:19:53] for the citizens in

[1:19:54] Pointe-Claire? I am asking all

[1:19:56] of this for you.

[1:20:01] >> I have expressed myself

[1:20:02] numerous times on this already,

[1:20:03] and I have no more comment.

[1:20:11] >> What is your question?

[1:20:12] >> My question, are we learning

[1:20:16] from Aaron? Are we going to work

[1:20:20] for the citizens of

[1:20:21] Pointe-Claire?

[1:20:24] >> Working for the citizens of

[1:20:25] Pointe-Claire is what I've been

[1:20:26] doing for five years.

[1:20:30] >> Sorry, I'll tell you exactly

[1:20:32] what they want. They want to

[1:20:34] take care of the environment,

[1:20:35] that is very important, the

[1:20:37] environment, to stop all

[1:20:38] high-rise buildings, and condos,

[1:20:41] and to build affordable, single

[1:20:44] housing, for young families.

[1:20:46] >> We are all trying, very hard,

[1:20:47] to make the city a great city.

[1:20:50] >> Excuse me, sir he is

[1:20:51] responding.

[1:20:52] >> We are trying to make the

[1:20:53] city a great city. We are trying

[1:20:55] to respond to a great deal of

[1:20:56] complicated, complex, and --

[1:21:05] contradictory needs. This is

[1:21:06] what we are trying to do.

[1:21:10] >> This is not easy, especially

[1:21:11] in the context with so much

[1:21:14] change going on. It's not easy.

[1:21:17] Are you helping us make it

[1:21:18] easier?

[1:21:19] >> That is why I am here, to

[1:21:22] support the good decisions, and

[1:21:24] to comment on the bad decisions.

[1:21:25] I can always see you voting for

[1:21:28] the developer. That is what I am

[1:21:29] seeing.

[1:21:30] >> Okay, you are starting to

[1:21:32] repeat yourself.

[1:21:33] >> What is your answer?

[1:21:34] >> What is your question?

[1:21:37] >> How we can try to do what is

[1:21:40] the right thing, the same as we

[1:21:43] did?

[1:21:45] >> The same thing we did for --?

[1:21:47] >> Some people resigned. That's

[1:21:50] what I've been saying. You

[1:21:53] always seem to be voting for the

[1:21:55] developer.

[1:21:58] >> I don't fully understand the

[1:22:00] question, sir, but I can try to

[1:22:02] give you an answer if you give

[1:22:03] me a clear question. What are

[1:22:05] you asking?

[1:22:07] >> What we can learn from

[1:22:09] resigning?

[1:22:11] >> From the Councillor's

[1:22:12] resignation? To be more civil to

[1:22:13] each other. That is what we can

[1:22:15] learn. I think you are right. I

[1:22:17] think we should learn to be more

[1:22:19] civil. I think our methods of

[1:22:22] communication, as we have seen

[1:22:23] tonight, on numerous occasions,

[1:22:27] could use some improvement. That

[1:22:29] is your answer. You have asked

[1:22:32] your question, I think we are

[1:22:34] close to the end here.

[1:22:38] >> The second question --

[1:22:39] >> You have taken an awful lot

[1:22:40] of time at the mic.

[1:22:41] >> People talk to me, I have ten

[1:22:43] minutes to talk.

[1:22:44] >> One more question, quickly.

[1:22:45] >> Okay, one more question.

[1:22:46] >> Okay, quickly.

[1:22:50] >> Who is given the information

[1:22:52] for Montréal, the City of

[1:22:53] Montréal, to increase our taxes?

[1:22:59] Our tax evaluation went up by

[1:23:00] 53%. The tax, it went up 16.5%.

[1:23:12] So, whose fault is that?

[1:23:15] >> Good question. I am meeting

[1:23:17] with the AMS am on a regular

[1:23:19] basis. We are wondering how to

[1:23:22] get around the constraints of

[1:23:24] the conglomeration council,

[1:23:25] which are a real problem for us.

[1:23:29] We are seeing all of the

[1:23:31] awesome, municipality he's all

[1:23:34] have huge taxes. Good asked

[1:23:35] people to stop talking, please?

[1:23:36] Thank you. Thank you.

[1:23:42] >> 56% increase? And 16.5?

[1:23:45] >> U.S. requests, and we're

[1:23:46] answering it now, okay? The AMS

[1:23:49] am, we are currently advisory

[1:23:52] strategies to try to alter the

[1:23:53] way that we can influence

[1:23:55] taxation from the City of

[1:23:58] Montréal. It was very much a

[1:24:02] problem for the A S M, but if

[1:24:04] you will notice, all of the

[1:24:09] municipalities took a heck of a

[1:24:10] wall up, tax wise. We are all

[1:24:13] frustrated, and we know it is an

[1:24:17] issue. Personally, myself, and

[1:24:20] proposing that we start a

[1:24:21] campaign, and educational

[1:24:23] campaign, as to where the

[1:24:24] taxation comes from, and why,

[1:24:26] and try to get more

[1:24:28] accountability out of the city

[1:24:30] itself. We need to see what they

[1:24:31] pay for them. It was coming

[1:24:37] here, and is bad as it was. We

[1:24:39] look for ways to cut ourselves,

[1:24:44] and there are no new

[1:24:46] expenditures, with things that

[1:24:47] were cutting, when we're cutting

[1:24:49] stuff off, was not making a heck

[1:24:51] of a lot of a difference. It's

[1:24:55] really a challenge, and

[1:24:56] frustrating for us, and why the

[1:24:59] demerged very much of a problem.

[1:25:03] How do we stop, that

[1:25:04] politically, and we are

[1:25:05] outnumbered, politically, so

[1:25:07] it's a challenge for us. Thank

[1:25:08] you very much sir. Councillor,

[1:25:10] you want to answer something?

[1:25:12] >> Yes, I just want to say, I

[1:25:13] agree with your reference to

[1:25:14] that. It is not an easy task. As

[1:25:17] we see with number seven, they

[1:25:18] will reach out to me, I'm on the

[1:25:20] finance committee, I can explain

[1:25:22] the numbers to you. On February

[1:25:25] 4th at the segway chalet, I have

[1:25:27] a group of 40 citizens showing

[1:25:28] up to explain the tax situation,

[1:25:31] so we will discuss that.

[1:25:34] >> Thank you for that.

[1:25:35] >> Excuse, me sir. No, not a

[1:25:37] dialogue, you've had a dialogue

[1:25:39] with Councillor state fourth,

[1:25:40] you had a dialogue with me, I

[1:25:41] think your time is up.

[1:25:43] >> Thank you very much. I don't

[1:25:45] mean to insult anybody here. I

[1:25:50] am just saying what she did, and

[1:25:51] what she feels.

[1:25:52] >> Thank you sir. Thank you very

[1:25:54] much.

[1:25:55] >> Thank. You

[1:25:56] >> Thank. You

[1:25:57] >> Mister Mayor? Ten minutes.

[1:25:58] >> Ten minutes? Okay, thank you.

[1:25:59] >> Good evening, Mark ably,

[1:26:01] district one.

[1:26:02] >> I'm sorry, can you repeat

[1:26:03] your name?

[1:26:05] >> Mark a belief. I am very glad

[1:26:07] to say, I will not be running

[1:26:11] for council in district one.

[1:26:13] Before I ask my question, Mister

[1:26:14] Mayor, I want to compliment you

[1:26:17] on the public restraint to have

[1:26:19] shown in the face of

[1:26:22] extraordinary, and I would say,

[1:26:23] degrading attacks, not least

[1:26:24] from one of your councillors. I

[1:26:27] am very glad, and surprised, to

[1:26:28] hear that everyone is on the

[1:26:30] same page. I hope that it is

[1:26:33] true. My question, like those

[1:26:35] several other people who have

[1:26:37] related to their environment, is

[1:26:39] more specific than before. When

[1:26:45] the target was adopted

[1:26:49] unanimously, relating directly

[1:26:50] to urban areas like

[1:26:53] Pointe-Claire, although the

[1:26:54] wording is bureaucratic, I'm

[1:26:55] sure you and the councillors are

[1:26:56] quite familiar with bureaucratic

[1:26:57] language. The following text

[1:26:59] comes from documents 15 slash

[1:27:02] four. In that document, the

[1:27:05] party agreed to increase the

[1:27:08] area, and quality, and

[1:27:10] connectivity of access to, and

[1:27:12] benefits from green, and blue

[1:27:14] spaces in urban, and densely

[1:27:17] populated area, sustainably. By

[1:27:19] mainstream and the conservation,

[1:27:22] sustainable use of biodiversity,

[1:27:24] and ensured bio diversity in

[1:27:25] urban planning. Enhancing native

[1:27:28] biodiversity, ecological

[1:27:30] connectivity, and integrity, and

[1:27:32] improving human, health and

[1:27:33] well-being, and connection to

[1:27:34] nature, and contributing to

[1:27:36] inclusive, and sustainable

[1:27:38] organization, and the provision

[1:27:40] of ecosystem functions and

[1:27:42] services. I think they needed an

[1:27:44] editor at top 15, the point

[1:27:47] comes through anyways.

[1:27:48] Fortunately, there is an

[1:27:50] elegant, and efficient way for

[1:27:51] the city of Pointe-Claire to

[1:27:53] increase the area, and quality,

[1:27:54] of its green spaces. Enhancing

[1:27:57] biodiversity, while improving

[1:27:58] the citizens well-being, and

[1:27:59] connection to nature. That way,

[1:28:02] is to safeguard the breeding

[1:28:04] habitat of the brown snake, the

[1:28:05] red hawk, the red back

[1:28:07] salamander, and many other wild

[1:28:09] species. By ensuring the

[1:28:10] Fairview forest is, permanently,

[1:28:12] off limits to, so-called,

[1:28:14] development. My question, Mister

[1:28:16] Mayor, is this. In light of the

[1:28:18] ever worsening climate crisis,

[1:28:19] and in light of Steven

[1:28:22] Guilbault's effective leadership

[1:28:23] at the cop 15 summit, in light

[1:28:25] of Kelly's public support for

[1:28:27] preserving the Fairview forest,

[1:28:28] and in light of Valérie Plante's

[1:28:30] desire to make Montréal a world

[1:28:31] leader in urban biodiversity, do

[1:28:35] you fear that the Pointe-Claire

[1:28:37] council will allow the forest to

[1:28:38] be cut down, thereby, making our

[1:28:41] city a symbol of shame across

[1:28:42] Québec, if not the rest of

[1:28:43] Canada? Or, are you confident

[1:28:45] that the City will shower nude,

[1:28:47] and principle determination to

[1:28:49] preserve the Fairview forest for

[1:28:50] generations to come?

[1:28:54] >> Wow. That's one heck of a

[1:28:59] question. I am confident we

[1:29:02] will. But I am worried, at the

[1:29:04] same time. What percentage of

[1:29:06] the forest will be preserved?

[1:29:07] Will all of it be preserved?

[1:29:09] Will it be whittled away, in

[1:29:11] bits and pieces, overtime? That

[1:29:13] is my major concern. Which is,

[1:29:17] what I've seen, in any kind of

[1:29:19] development process where

[1:29:20] people, slowly, whittle, and the

[1:29:22] end result is where you want to

[1:29:24] go, where it's done slowly, and

[1:29:26] then pieces. That's my major

[1:29:27] concern. I think we are in good

[1:29:29] shape at the moment but, it was

[1:29:30] a big splash. I want to see

[1:29:36] what's happen going forward, I

[1:29:37] can predict the future, but I do

[1:29:38] have my concerns, absolutely.

[1:29:43] >> May I speak?

[1:29:45] >> Councillor, were going

[1:29:46] through question period, there's

[1:29:48] still a gentleman to go.

[1:29:49] >> But Councillor I'm --

[1:29:51] >> Okay, Councillor Stainforth,

[1:29:52] go ahead.

[1:29:53] >> I don't want to say, I've

[1:29:54] been in touch and she had sent

[1:29:57] us some information concerning

[1:29:59] different grants, about a year

[1:30:01] ago. In, which at the time I was

[1:30:04] told, we did not -- they were

[1:30:08] not compatible with our city.

[1:30:10] She's supposed to send me the

[1:30:11] grant information again, so that

[1:30:13] we can forwarded on. I have also

[1:30:15] asked Mayor Thomas, through

[1:30:16] email, several times, about the

[1:30:18] steps that are being taken as

[1:30:20] the RFP will -- it's not a

[1:30:22] permanent solution. We need to,

[1:30:26] actually, move past the RCI.

[1:30:28] Hopefully, the advocates for

[1:30:30] Fairview forest will continue to

[1:30:31] push that agenda forward, so

[1:30:33] there is some movement on the

[1:30:35] dossier. Especially, as a city,

[1:30:37] we cannot afford, necessarily,

[1:30:40] to buy the land. Absolutely, we

[1:30:41] need other levels of government

[1:30:43] to step in. Hopefully, Valérie

[1:30:47] Plante's statement about willing

[1:30:48] to save 30% of the green space

[1:30:50] on the island will be

[1:30:52] applicable, and ask Mayor Thomas

[1:30:53] if he is taking a meeting with

[1:30:54] her. I haven't received a reply,

[1:30:59] so perhaps, you can apply today.

[1:31:00] >> I have read, and requested a

[1:31:02] meeting with her.

[1:31:04] >> Mister Mayor, if I may?

[1:31:05] >> Thank you very much Mister a

[1:31:07] belief for the question,

[1:31:09] wonderfully presented. Really,

[1:31:12] quite crucial as we are entering

[1:31:14] into a phase where we need to

[1:31:16] start looking at how we will

[1:31:20] evolve our development program

[1:31:22] in the ICB and control bylaw.

[1:31:25] So, one of the things that I

[1:31:27] think we need to look at on

[1:31:32] where they stop working, and the

[1:31:35] Fairview forest is negotiable.

[1:31:39] The reason we bring it up as we

[1:31:41] have a contradictory position in

[1:31:42] terms of how we manage, how we

[1:31:46] interact the natural spaces that

[1:31:48] we share, or our neighbours to,

[1:31:51] and if you consider the brown

[1:31:53] snake is an example that you

[1:31:54] brought up, it was recently, and

[1:31:56] sadly, promoted to a threatened

[1:31:59] species in Québec. Different

[1:32:01] jurisdictions, with different

[1:32:02] levels of alarm when it comes to

[1:32:04] different species. And,

[1:32:06] unfortunately, that poor animal,

[1:32:08] or reptile, in this case, is at

[1:32:13] that point. So, we are good at

[1:32:15] being able to catalogue the

[1:32:16] different species and trouble,

[1:32:17] but where we have an enormous

[1:32:19] amount of trouble is in terms of

[1:32:21] legislation from the provincial

[1:32:22] government, federal government,

[1:32:23] et cetera, and from the

[1:32:25] perspective of people who own

[1:32:27] natural areas is to understand,

[1:32:29] the brown snake lives in a

[1:32:31] particular habitat. If that

[1:32:33] habitat continues to be

[1:32:34] threatened, they cannot live.

[1:32:36] So, we need to, as we enter

[1:32:38] these phases again, to really

[1:32:40] keep in mind, these kinds of

[1:32:43] areas are not negotiable. These

[1:32:46] are areas where, I believe,

[1:32:47] developers have an opportunity,

[1:32:48] today, if they want to develop

[1:32:52] the Tesla's of retail, the

[1:32:53] Teslas of industrial, the Tesla

[1:32:55] is, of whatever it might be --

[1:32:57] I'm just using that Tesla

[1:32:59] example is it might be apple, or

[1:33:00] creativity, basically, around

[1:33:03] looking natural spaces as part

[1:33:04] of their development, so that we

[1:33:06] can begin to weave natural

[1:33:08] ecosystems within the urban

[1:33:09] fabric we are designing today.

[1:33:11] This might mean, we need to take

[1:33:12] some time to consider all of

[1:33:13] that. We need that time, as a

[1:33:16] Council, to be able to speak

[1:33:18] with our residents, to speak to

[1:33:21] all people who are involved in

[1:33:23] this process, so that we can,

[1:33:24] finally, get to that point.

[1:33:26] Unless we do that, and we start

[1:33:28] -- and continue, to do things

[1:33:30] that we've done in the past,

[1:33:31] which make these economic goals,

[1:33:33] as opposed to societal, and

[1:33:35] environmental goals, we will run

[1:33:37] into problems, and we will keep

[1:33:38] slipping. I bet you, the next

[1:33:40] cop meeting we run out, the only

[1:33:41] thing that will have changed is

[1:33:42] more species threatened, less

[1:33:45] percentage of protective space.

[1:33:49] Thank you for the question.

[1:33:50] >> Sorry, Mr. Abley?

[1:33:52] >> That is one of the thank you

[1:33:53] all for your courteous

[1:33:54] responses. I would even say,

[1:33:56] encouraging responses. I just

[1:33:57] want to say, there is a great

[1:33:59] deal of public support for

[1:34:01] preserving the Fairview forest.

[1:34:02] I think it is something that all

[1:34:04] councillors, as well as the

[1:34:05] Mayor, should be aware of.

[1:34:06] >> Thank you. Just on a final

[1:34:07] note, thank you for your kind

[1:34:08] words. In light of Councillor

[1:34:10] Ted for his resignation, I would

[1:34:13] like to say, I think, we have

[1:34:15] seen some evidence of what she

[1:34:18] has had to endure, and what I

[1:34:19] have had to endure, and I do

[1:34:20] thank you for your kind words.

[1:34:21] We are very appreciative.

[1:34:28] >> Mister Mayor, councillors,

[1:34:30] two very quick questions. I will

[1:34:32] keep my preamble short for you.

[1:34:34] Maybe I will run for district.

[1:34:36] >> Sorry, please just state your

[1:34:38] name.

[1:34:39] >> -- district one. Just to,

[1:34:43] quickly, you sort of touched on

[1:34:45] it Mister Mayor, there needs to

[1:34:47] be some public information about

[1:34:49] the recent tax increase. Some

[1:34:52] comments that were, made

[1:34:53] publicly, by yourself were

[1:34:56] incorrect. The average was not

[1:34:59] 5.9%, that was written in a

[1:35:01] Gazette article stating you had

[1:35:02] made that comment, so, I would

[1:35:04] ask the City to publish

[1:35:07] something in the immediate

[1:35:08] future, outlining why our taxes

[1:35:12] have gone up, a random amount. I

[1:35:15] have had everybody tell me, they

[1:35:19] are going 56% increase, 16.5,

[1:35:23] mine went up 50% on evaluation,

[1:35:26] and my taxes went up 17.8%. It's

[1:35:29] all over the map. We the city

[1:35:33] knew this was coming. We all

[1:35:34] knew this was coming. Yes, we

[1:35:36] did. We all knew evaluations

[1:35:39] would increase dramatically. It

[1:35:41] was told to us in the fall, so,

[1:35:44] we could have something with an

[1:35:47] educational piece, which is

[1:35:49] presented to the residents of

[1:35:51] Pointe-Claire, so that we all

[1:35:52] understand. If you look on

[1:35:54] social media, within dialogues

[1:35:56] within communities, we are all

[1:35:57] trying to figure out what just

[1:35:58] happened. So, the City should

[1:36:00] have been ahead of it, and

[1:36:02] publish this before. I do

[1:36:04] understand, you would like to do

[1:36:05] this, but it does need to be

[1:36:06] done yesterday.

[1:36:07] >> No, that's a valid point. As

[1:36:09] to the 5.9%, I will let Mr.

[1:36:14] Sanders speak to that in a

[1:36:15] second. But, bearing in mind,

[1:36:16] this is across the board.

[1:36:19] Everybody is enduring this, and

[1:36:21] we were not prepared for this

[1:36:22] increase. You can anticipate, it

[1:36:25] a bit, but this one, I think,

[1:36:27] was a surprise, speaking

[1:36:28] personally. Speaking with my

[1:36:31] other mayors, I think we, of

[1:36:32] all, we are somewhat taken

[1:36:35] aback. Especially in bitter Fay,

[1:36:38] and delivered. They got it worse

[1:36:40] than us. St. Anne is really bad.

[1:36:44] Speaking with others, do you

[1:36:46] have a response to him?

[1:36:47] >> The average increase in

[1:36:50] value, for the average house of

[1:36:52] Pointe-Claire, was 42%. Combined

[1:36:56] with an increase in the mail

[1:36:58] rate, or an increase of the

[1:37:00] taxes of 5.9, there is a

[1:37:03] presentation on the website, and

[1:37:05] we did a presentation when we

[1:37:07] presented the budget. The

[1:37:10] PowerPoint is on the website.

[1:37:11] There is a graph attached to

[1:37:14] that presentation where we

[1:37:16] explain all of the houses that

[1:37:18] have an increase in value of

[1:37:20] more than 42%, will be hit, or

[1:37:23] would be hit, by a greater

[1:37:24] increase in taxes of 5.9 plus

[1:37:29] the increase above the average,

[1:37:31] which was 42%. So, it is

[1:37:35] explained, but if you want, you

[1:37:38] can call me tomorrow, we can

[1:37:40] take the time to go through it

[1:37:42] --

[1:37:43] >> No, I just want the link to

[1:37:44] this. I just couldn't find it.

[1:37:47] I'm a little webs of a. None of

[1:37:49] my neighbours could find it

[1:37:50] either.

[1:37:51] >> You are welcome to call me

[1:37:52] tomorrow, and I will explain to

[1:37:55] you where the link is on the

[1:37:57] website, and I will give you all

[1:37:59] of the explanations about the

[1:38:01] tax increase, and the increase

[1:38:02] in value of the houses. There is

[1:38:04] a graph attached to that.

[1:38:06] >> Appreciate the information,

[1:38:07] very different in what was

[1:38:08] published in the media. Very

[1:38:10] very different. I have a second

[1:38:13] question.

[1:38:14] >> How are we doing for time

[1:38:15] Madam to bow? We are past?

[1:38:19] >> Two minutes past, yes.

[1:38:21] >> Keep it very short. Public

[1:38:23] consultations, what are they

[1:38:24] happening, and can you please

[1:38:27] elaborate on the resolution for

[1:38:30] purpose and, sorry, stronger

[1:38:32] glasses, resolution for the

[1:38:34] purpose of ensuring public park

[1:38:36] participation intervening to

[1:38:37] future zones of and you won, and

[1:38:40] Mu2. A special meeting, that is

[1:38:41] now slated for Thursday night,

[1:38:44] January 19th.

[1:38:45] >> Yes. That will be a special

[1:38:48] meeting on how to send a mandate

[1:38:51] letter. Are we allowed to speak

[1:38:52] to this? Are my allowed to speak

[1:38:54] to this Madam Thibault?

[1:38:55] >> Yes. You can welcome people

[1:38:58] to Thursday night.

[1:38:59] >> So, it is a meeting, designed

[1:39:02] to contemplate the future, and

[1:39:07] further communication between

[1:39:08] the director general, and her

[1:39:10] mandate letter, and Cadillac

[1:39:11] Fairview, regarding zones Mu1,

[1:39:13] and Mu2. You are all welcome to

[1:39:17] attend.

[1:39:18] >> How does it do with a public

[1:39:20] consultation?

[1:39:21] >> Because it is a public

[1:39:23] meeting, I guess? I mean, as far

[1:39:25] as public consultation goes, I

[1:39:28] would have liked it five months

[1:39:33] ago. The citizens should be in,

[1:39:36] there right now. That would be

[1:39:38] my wish, and that would be my

[1:39:40] proposal in today's. That we

[1:39:43] will get public consultation

[1:39:44] where we are far too far along

[1:39:45] in the process. It should've

[1:39:46] been done sooner, and that is my

[1:39:48] express wish. That answers your

[1:39:50] question Mister present?

[1:39:51] >> No, I'm a little confused.

[1:39:53] >> You don't have a subsequent

[1:39:55] question? We will pass the

[1:39:56] timeline. You have your answer.

[1:39:58] You have your answer. Thank you

[1:40:00] sir.

[1:40:01] >> Excuse, me Mister Mayor.

[1:40:03] Could I just make a small

[1:40:06] correction when Mr. Frechette, I

[1:40:07] can answer your question. The

[1:40:09] purpose of the resolution is to

[1:40:13] discuss the resolution between

[1:40:14] the director general, and the

[1:40:17] representative of Cadillac

[1:40:18] Fairview, if, of course,

[1:40:20] represented with Cadillac

[1:40:21] Fairview agreed to participate

[1:40:22] in that. The idea is to set in

[1:40:24] motion that discussion, so that

[1:40:26] we can get to a public

[1:40:28] consultation on the future of

[1:40:32] anyone, so Ms. Mu1, and Mu2. So,

[1:40:33] that is the aim. It is to

[1:40:37] establish a roadmap that is

[1:40:38] mutually agreeable, with

[1:40:39] Cadillac Fairview, and with the

[1:40:40] City, that will create public

[1:40:42] consultations, and then, in the

[1:40:44] end, be able to create a

[1:40:50] mutually agreeable -- which

[1:40:51] means, to the citizens of

[1:40:53] Pointe-Claire, that their

[1:40:54] aspirations work into that as

[1:40:56] well. That we can make a

[1:41:00] comprehensive plan for that

[1:41:01] area. This may, very well,

[1:41:04] possibly, be the preservation of

[1:41:07] the entire Fairview forest, or

[1:41:08] not. That is up to the citizens

[1:41:10] of Pointe-Claire to work out.

[1:41:12] The whole aim is to get there,

[1:41:13] finally, because I do agree with

[1:41:15] the Mayor, it has been far too

[1:41:16] long. We haven't gotten

[1:41:18] anywhere.

[1:41:19] >> Thank you Councillor Cohen.

[1:41:20] >> Thank you Mister Fréchette.

[1:41:22] >> Thank you.

[1:41:24] >> That is fine, Mr. Frechette,

[1:41:27] you can sit down. My feeling on

[1:41:29] that is that I would like to

[1:41:30] have public consultation before

[1:41:31] we get to that roadmap. So, it

[1:41:33] is a chicken or the egg thing.

[1:41:35] Which comes first. My preference

[1:41:36] would be public consultation

[1:41:38] before we go to that process.

[1:41:41] That's fine.

[1:41:42] >> Yes? Okay. Shall we continue?

[1:41:51] >> 611. Bylaw on specific

[1:41:54] construction -- sorry, no one's

[1:42:02] listening to me. It's okay, no

[1:42:03] problem, don't take it personal.

[1:42:04] Feel free to go. Even you.

[1:42:14] Sorry, 611. Bylaw on specific

[1:42:18] construction, authorization, or

[1:42:20] occupancy proposals for an

[1:42:23] immovable -- this bylaw is

[1:42:27] discretionary in nature, and

[1:42:29] allows, under certain conditions

[1:42:31] that, the project may be carried

[1:42:33] out, despite the fact that it

[1:42:37] delegates from, one or the

[1:42:38] other, to the provisions of the

[1:42:41] Planning bylaws. To be

[1:42:42] admissible, the project must be

[1:42:44] in conformity with the objective

[1:42:45] of the client program, or the

[1:42:48] objectives of a specific

[1:42:49] planning program when

[1:42:51] applicable. Once enforced, this

[1:42:55] bylaw is applicable throughout

[1:42:56] the territory. This is known as

[1:42:57] a motion.

[1:43:01] >> I have a mover?

[1:43:06] >> Cynthia Homan, district five,

[1:43:07] I move to accept this motion.

[1:43:10] >> Seconder?

[1:43:12] >> Sorry, it's just a motion,

[1:43:13] just needing That.

[1:43:16] >> 6.2.1 Premier projet de

[1:43:17] règlement sur les projets

[1:43:18] Particuliers de construction, de

[1:43:19] modification ou d'occupation

[1:43:20] d'un immeuble

[1:43:21] (PPCMOI)

[1:43:22] . Donc c'est la même description

[1:43:28] que l'avis de motion qui vient

[1:43:29] d'être donné par la conseillère

[1:43:33] Cynthia Homan.

[1:43:36] >> Do I have a mover?

[1:43:39] >> So the Homan, district five.

[1:43:42] >> District. To

[1:43:43] >> All in favour?,

[1:43:56] . Since they are no longer

[1:44:03] applicable, secondly the rates

[1:44:04] of fines must be modified to be

[1:44:06] consistent with the entire

[1:44:08] territory of the island of

[1:44:11] Montréal. 6.5.2 Règlement

[1:44:12] modifiant le Règlement sur les

[1:44:13] usages conditionnels PC-2791

[1:44:14] afin de permettre des activités

[1:44:15] additionnelles à même certains

[1:44:18] Établissements de transformation

[1:44:19] et/ou de fabrication faisant

[1:44:20] partie intégrante de la

[1:44:23] classification des usages

[1:44:28] industriels. le règlement

[1:44:30] concernait spécifiquement les

[1:44:34] zones N9 et N11 dans les zones

[1:44:37] industrielles. Il vise à

[1:44:39] permettre dans un local

[1:44:41] industriel certaines activités

[1:44:42] optionnelle comme la

[1:44:43] consommation sur place ou la

[1:44:44] vente de produits fabriqués sur

[1:44:46] le site. D'autres modifications

[1:44:48] sont d'ordre plus cléricales.

[1:44:49] >> For

[1:44:52] Six point 5.1 and six point 5.2,

[1:44:53] do I have a mover?

[1:44:57] - Oui, je propose l'adoption des

[1:44:59] règlements.

[1:45:00] >> And seconder?

[1:45:03] >>

[1:45:04] - Trent Cohen, Brent district

[1:45:05] numéro 8. Cowan, district 8.

[1:45:07] >> I oppose.

[1:45:11] >> Councillor Bissonnette, you

[1:45:12] oppose? Okay. All those against?

[1:45:18] - Monsieur Bissonnette, vous

[1:45:19] votez contre quelle

[1:45:23] >>...

[1:45:24] - 6.5.2. Six point 5.2.

[1:45:40] >> 8.2 Grant a financial support

[1:45:43] to the low vision self help

[1:45:47] Association. No vision self-help

[1:45:48] is in association that-esque as

[1:45:51] its people with vision loss to

[1:45:52] have people be more active and

[1:45:54] in involved in their communities

[1:45:59] since 9.2 Nommer des membres au

[1:46:00] sein du Comité consultatif de la

[1:46:01] Bibliothèque publique de

[1:46:02] Pointe-Claire. 1988. Il s'agit

[1:46:04] de nommer, de procéder à l'homme

[1:46:06] d'une nation de monsieur marques

[1:46:07] à blé et au renouvellement des

[1:46:10] mandats de madame Geneviève

[1:46:12] Michal et Chantal St-Jacques.

[1:46:20] 9.2 for the Pointe-Claire

[1:46:25] purpose of the resolution is to

[1:46:28] appoint Mrs. Perez scene and Mr.

[1:46:30] and repeating as members of the

[1:46:31] board of directors of the

[1:46:33] Pointe-Claire canoe and kayak

[1:46:35] club for a three-year term,

[1:46:37] beginning January 18th, 2023,

[1:46:40] and to appoint Mr. Michel are

[1:46:42] Shawn Ball as chairman of the

[1:46:44] board of directors for two-year

[1:46:48] term beginning January one 2023.

[1:46:52] >> Do I have a mover?

[1:46:56] >> I move to approve 8.2 as well

[1:47:06] as 9.2 and 9.3.

[1:47:09] >> 9.4 Déposer le procès-verbal

[1:47:10] de la réunion du 24 all in

[1:47:11] favour? Novembre 2022 du Comité

[1:47:12] consultatif de la

[1:47:13] Bibliothèque publique de

[1:47:14] Pointe-Claire.

[1:47:25] >> 12.1 approve waiting and

[1:47:29] confirmation criteria. This is

[1:47:30] approval of a standard selection

[1:47:32] criteria grid often used by the

[1:47:35] building department for

[1:47:36] professional, architectural, in

[1:47:39] engineering services.

[1:47:41] >> Do I have a mover?

[1:47:43] >> Brent Cowan, district 8.

[1:47:46] >> And a seconder?

[1:47:50] >> 12.2 Déposer la liste des

[1:47:51] amendements budgétaires Eric

[1:47:52] Stork, et le registre des

[1:47:53] chèques pour la période du 24

[1:47:54] district seven.

[1:47:55] Novembre 2022 au 4 janvier 2023.

[1:48:20] >> Section three of the act

[1:48:24] respecting elections and 13.2

[1:48:26] Avis de vacance d'un poste au

[1:48:27] sein du conseil. municipalities.

[1:48:31] Conformément à l' article 333

[1:48:32] sur la Loi sur les élections et

[1:48:34] les référendums dans les

[1:48:35] municipalités, j'avise par la

[1:48:36] présente le conseil municipal de

[1:48:38] la vacance au poste de

[1:48:39] conseiller du district un et

[1:48:42] deux, Le Village de la ville

[1:48:44] doit claire, le poste devra donc

[1:48:46] être comblé par une élection

[1:48:47] partielle et ce par l'article

[1:48:50] 335 de la loi. La directrice du

[1:48:55] scrutin comblera le poste par

[1:48:58] scrutin d'ici trois mois en

[1:49:01] accordance avec l'article 339 de

[1:49:02] la Loi. 14.1,. 14.2 Approuver la

[1:49:09] liste des changements au

[1:49:10] personnel par décisions non

[1:49:11] déléguées au 17 janvier 2023..

[1:49:14] >>?

[1:49:18] >> Do I have a? Mover

[1:49:21] >> Second? Are you

[1:49:23] >> Seconded.

[1:49:24] >> All in favour? 14.1 for the

[1:49:38] month of $57,486.35, taxes

[1:49:44] included for services and

[1:49:46] disposable and recovery of large

[1:49:49] upholstered items. In accordance

[1:49:50] with the sustainable development

[1:49:52] policy adopted by the City in

[1:49:54] 2017, public works and buildings

[1:49:57] department ensures that the

[1:50:00] supplier of -- recovers and

[1:50:02] motions of items like mattresses

[1:50:04] and sofas, collected at

[1:50:06] ecocentre and special door to

[1:50:08] door collection in order to

[1:50:11] minimize landfilling of these

[1:50:13] large Items. 16.2 Se prévaloir

[1:50:14] de l'option de renouvellement

[1:50:15] prévue au contrat intervenu avec

[1:50:16] « 100% Environnemental

[1:50:17] (4121104 Canada Inc.)

[1:50:18] », pour l'année 2023, au

[1:50:19] montant de 68 985,00 $, taxes

[1:50:21] incluses, concernant la

[1:50:22] fourniture des services de

[1:50:24] collectes spéciales d’articles

[1:50:29] rembourrés. cette démarche

[1:50:30] apporte des de poursuivre le

[1:50:31] contrat des collectes annuelles

[1:50:33] d'articles rembourrer

[1:50:34] porte-à-porte pour l'année 2023

[1:50:36] dans le but de nous permettre...

[1:50:38] de permettre, pardon, la

[1:50:39] récupération et la valorisation

[1:50:41] des matières résiduelles.

[1:50:44] >> For 16.1 and 16.2, do I have

[1:50:47] a mover? And second? Are

[1:50:51] - J'appuie

[1:50:52] >> Du... -- Bruno Tremblay.

[1:50:55] >> All in, favour?

[1:51:00] >> 16.1, oui 16.2, disent Rick

[1:51:01] six. 16.3, a water contract for

[1:51:03] agriculture works for the

[1:51:05] District 6.

[1:51:08] 2023 to set the -- for total

[1:51:10] amount of three in a $92,352.19,

[1:51:16] taxes included. Were the years

[1:51:20] 2024 and 2025 an option. The

[1:51:21] work consists of pruning,

[1:51:24] bracing filling and removal of

[1:51:26] woody debris throughout the year

[1:51:30] at rates and in emergency

[1:51:33] situations at any time at the

[1:51:34] request of 16.4 Octroyer un

[1:51:35] contrat pour le remplacement des

[1:51:36] the City. Filets de deux

[1:51:37] structures de jeux aux parcs

[1:51:39] Seigniory et Valois, à

[1:51:40] « Atmosphäre Inc. », pour un

[1:51:42] montant total de 83 336,18 $,

[1:51:43] taxes incluses. le but de cette

[1:51:50] résolution est de procéder à

[1:51:52] l'octroi de contrats pour le

[1:51:53] remplacement des filets

[1:51:55] grimpeurs de deux structures de

[1:51:57] jeu corde accordes qui ont été

[1:51:59] installées en 2000 et 2003. Les

[1:52:00] cordages des deux filets

[1:52:02] grimpeur ont atteint une mesure

[1:52:03] qui nécessite le remplacement

[1:52:04] complet pour garantir la

[1:52:06] sécurité future des utilisateurs

[1:52:08] âgés de 5 à 12 ans. 16

[1:52:23] 16.5, two amount of

[1:52:30] 19,000 1700 and $13.78, taxes

[1:52:31] included, with the year 2005 on

[1:52:35] option. The contract will allow

[1:52:38] the rehabilitation various types

[1:52:40] of existing fences and the

[1:52:42] installation of new fences

[1:52:44] within the city 14.1 of 16.6

[1:52:45] Octroyer un contrat pour des

[1:52:46] travaux d'abattage

[1:52:47] Pointe-Claire. De frênes pour

[1:52:48] l'année 2023, à « Émondage SBP »

[1:52:49] pour un montant total de 389

[1:52:50] 658,15 $, 14.1 taxes incluses,

[1:52:51] et à « Arbo-Design », pour un

[1:52:57] montant total de 35 555,16 $,

[1:52:58] taxes incluses. le but de ce

[1:53:05] dossier est d'octroyer un

[1:53:06] contrat réparties en quatre lots

[1:53:09] distincts pour des travaux

[1:53:10] davantage de frênes et de

[1:53:11] ramassage de débris ligneux sur

[1:53:12] le territoire de la ville pour

[1:53:15] l'année 2023 en faveur de la

[1:53:18] compagnie... pour les lots A, B,

[1:53:20] C, et la compagnie... pour le

[1:53:26] lot D.

[1:53:27] >> Do I have a mover?

[1:53:32] >> Kelly --, district 3

[1:53:35] >> A seconder?

[1:53:36] >> Seconded by --

[1:53:38] >> Oliver?

[1:53:45] >> 16.7, approval to contract

[1:53:47] entered into -- with four

[1:53:48] additional hours for the

[1:53:49] maintenance of the landscape

[1:53:51] bands along I miss Boulevard for

[1:53:52] an amount of

[1:53:58] $1,583.78, taxes included, a

[1:54:00] bagel 40 hours was contracted

[1:54:02] for landscaping prove months and

[1:54:04] the hours were exceeded in order

[1:54:06] to complete the application of

[1:54:08] mulch, to 16.8 Approuver une

[1:54:11] modification au contrat

[1:54:12] intervenu all landscape beds

[1:54:13] 12.1. Avec « Sanibert Inc. »,

[1:54:14] pour des services de location de

[1:54:15] toilettes chimiques, pour un

[1:54:17] montant de 9 501,13 $, taxes

[1:54:22] incluses. en raison de

[1:54:24] l'augmentation du nombre de

[1:54:25] toilettes, de l'augmentation des

[1:54:27] entretiens est... hebdomadaire,

[1:54:29] de l'augmentation de la durée de

[1:54:33] location et nettoyage de

[1:54:34] graffitis, il y a eu dépassement

[1:54:35] de coûts.

[1:54:44] 16.9 for the spine installation

[1:54:46] of crosswalks emails for

[1:54:48] pedestrians of the type of

[1:54:50] rectangular rapid flashing

[1:54:52] beacons, for an amount of

[1:54:57] $2,491.67, tax included. In

[1:54:59] order to ensure the

[1:55:01] functionality of the new cross

[1:55:03] walk signal system at the --

[1:55:06] south side towers towards the

[1:55:10] highway 40 key service road,

[1:55:12] protesting was required prior to

[1:55:14] installation. Following a

[1:55:16] positive functionality test, the

[1:55:17] removal, and disposal of

[1:55:19] existing defective system was

[1:55:21] required in order to install the

[1:55:23] new system at the same location.

[1:55:31] >> Four 16.7 and.9, do I have a

[1:55:35] mover?

[1:55:39] >> 16.7, I believe.

[1:55:41] >>.7,.9.

[1:55:44] >> Brent Cowan, district eight?

[1:55:47] >> -- District to.

[1:55:49] >> All in favour? 18.1

[1:55:52] Considérer les plans

[1:55:53] d’implantation et d’intégration

[1:55:54] architecturale relatifs aux

[1:55:55] propriétés sises aux 148, avenue

[1:55:56] de Windward Crescent, 412,

[1:55:57] avenue Saint-Louis et 208,

[1:55:59] chemin du Bord-du-Lac-Lakeshore.

[1:56:04] Le 140, huit avenue de Wild

[1:56:05] Ward, il s'agit de rénovation

[1:56:07] extérieurs, lequel 112, avenue

[1:56:08] Saint-Louis, une nouvelle

[1:56:09] construction et le 208, chemin

[1:56:11] du bord du lac Lakeshore, des

[1:56:13] rénovations extérieures. 18.2,

[1:56:21] respect to the priority at --

[1:56:23] avenue, 25 Prince Albert Avenue,

[1:56:27] 1:17 the app Avenue, and 12

[1:56:29] hillside avenue. These are

[1:56:31] demolitions and who

[1:56:33] constructions for addresses.

[1:56:34] >> Do I have a mover?

[1:56:36] >> Eric Stork, district 7.

[1:56:39] >> And seconder?

[1:56:42] >> Carrie Thorstad-Cullen,

[1:56:43] district 3.

[1:56:45] >> All in favour?

[1:56:46] >> The next items you have

[1:56:48] recommendation to refuse from --

[1:56:51] 18.3 Considérer les plans

[1:56:52] d’implantation et d’intégration

[1:56:53] architecturale relatifs à la

[1:56:54] propriété sise au 133, avenue de

[1:56:55] Windward Crescent. Dieppe Dieppe

[1:57:00] pour des travaux

[1:57:01] d'agrandissement.

[1:57:08] With respect to the par property

[1:57:11] at 1:33 sunnyside Avenue. For

[1:57:13] the motion and a new

[1:57:14] construction.

[1:57:15] >> To have a mover?

[1:57:18] >> Cynthia Homan, I refuse to I

[1:57:23] propose to refuse 18.3 and 18.4.

[1:57:27] >> A seconder?

[1:57:30] >> --

[1:57:31] >> All in 19.1 Octroyer un

[1:57:32] contrat pour la fourniture et la

[1:57:33] favour?

[1:57:34] >> Livraison de livres à

[1:57:35] diverses librairies pour la

[1:57:36] période du 1 janvier au 31

[1:57:37] décembre 2023 pour un montant

[1:57:39] total de 295 000 $, taxes

[1:57:46] incluses. afin de répondre aux

[1:57:47] besoins de cette clientèle, la

[1:57:49] bibliothèque achètera en 2023

[1:57:50] des livres en français et en

[1:57:52] anglais pour les adultes et pour

[1:57:53] les enfants auprès de librairies

[1:57:56] agréées situé dans la région de

[1:57:58] Montréal tel que prescrit à

[1:57:59] l'article 3 de la Loi sur le

[1:58:01] développement des entreprises

[1:58:02] québécoises dans le domaine du

[1:58:03] livre. 19.2, approve a donation

[1:58:09] to the Lester B Pearson school

[1:58:11] board of exercise equipment

[1:58:12] belonging to the city. In the

[1:58:15] context of frequent use of the

[1:58:18] all of her carts for centre --

[1:58:20] >> Gentleman, excuse, me sorry,

[1:58:24] Madame Thibault, gentlemen?

[1:58:29] >> Four of the centres weight

[1:58:31] machine have reached the end of

[1:58:33] their useful life. In order to

[1:58:35] give them a second life in a

[1:58:38] less frequent use environment,

[1:58:40] it is proposed that the

[1:58:42] equipment be donated to a local

[1:58:44] school boards that the equipment

[1:58:46] can continue to be used.

[1:58:49] >> So for 19.1 and 19.2 to have

[1:58:54] a mover?

[1:58:55] >> Brent Cowan. A seconder?

[1:58:58] >> Seconded.

[1:58:59] >> All in favour?

[1:59:04] >>

[1:59:05] - Levée de la séance.

[1:59:06] Foreclosure, do I have a mover?

[1:59:07] >> I move to approve closing,

[1:59:11] Tara Stainforth, I district 4.

[1:59:14] Brent, Cowan district 8.

[1:59:15] >>

[1:59:16] - All in bonsoir, tout le monde

[1:59:18] favour!

[1:59:19] [Sous-titrage en direct: VITAC

[1:59:20] Canada]

[1:59:21] ?

2023-01-17 Conseil de la Ville de Pointe-Claire

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