[0:50] >> There we go, thanks Paul.

[0:53] - Bonsoir mesdames et messieurs

[0:55] et bienvenue à cette séance du

[0:57] conseil du 2 juillet 2024. Good

[0:59] evening, ladies and gentlemen,

[1:00] and welcome to our July 2nd

[1:01] council meeting.

[1:04] J'espère que vous avez profité

[1:06] des festivités de la fête

[1:08] nationale et de la fête du

[1:10] Canada ce sont des moments

[1:12] formidables a passé en famille

[1:15] et entre amis. I think we did a

[1:16] splendid job at both.

[1:18] We got extremely lucky with the

[1:20] weather on Saint-Jean baptized

[1:21] and I thank the staff for their

[1:23] call on that one. We didn't go a

[1:24] day early, we rolled the dice

[1:27] and one weatherwise, so I was

[1:29] very pleased with that one and I

[1:30] thought yesterday went really

[1:32] well. I especially enjoyed the

[1:34] fireworks. I thought they were

[1:35] really good this time.

[1:39] J'aimerais profiter de

[1:41] l'occasion pour apporter

[1:42] quelques prévisions quant à

[1:45] l'importance des règlements que

[1:46] nous avons adoptée à la dernière

[1:48] séance du conseil. L'eau est une

[1:52] ressource naturelle qui est

[1:53] encadrée par les lois. Il est

[1:57] temps que l'on se préoccupe de

[2:00] son utilisation. Federal and

[2:02] provincial governments have

[2:03] taken responsible actions to

[2:04] ensure its governance. The

[2:10] Canada water agency has created

[2:12] to strengthen the freshwater

[2:14] action plan and Québec has

[2:16] adopted a national water policy

[2:17] in 2002, which the Ministry of

[2:19] the Environment replaced with

[2:20] the Québec water strategy in 20

[2:23] 18 to 2030. At the launch of

[2:26] this new strategy, former

[2:28] Premier Philippe Couillard said,

[2:30] we are taking action to prevent

[2:31] water related risks while

[2:33] building on its economic

[2:35] potential. We are reaffirming

[2:36] the central rule that water

[2:38] plays in our lives and we're

[2:40] giving ourselves the direction

[2:42] and objectives we need to

[2:43] continue guaranteeing its

[2:47] sustainability. It is in this

[2:50] legislative context that

[2:52] Pointe-Claire is following in

[2:53] the footsteps of many cities and

[2:54] municipalities that have adopted

[2:55] a policy on the use of drinking

[2:59] water. The goal is to avoid

[3:01] waste and to ensure the

[3:03] sustainability of this important

[3:04] resource for the next

[3:06] generations. Refraining from

[3:07] adopting this policy would not

[3:09] only deprive us of subsidies for

[3:11] some of our major infrastructure

[3:12] work, it would also postpone

[3:15] acknowledging the importance of

[3:17] this natural resource.

[3:25] Toutefois, bien que je pense que

[3:27] nous partageons tous l'objectif

[3:30] d'en faire plus pour conserver

[3:33] l'eau, je tiens à préciser que

[3:35] je suis d'accord avec certaines

[3:37] des questions soulevées par le

[3:39] conseiller Cousineau et

[3:41] Bissonnette. Ma principale

[3:43] préoccupation est de m'assurer

[3:44] que les citoyens sont entendus

[3:47] sur les changements qui

[3:49] affectent leur vie quotidienne.

[3:53] Nous disposons maintenant d'une

[3:55] période de grâce de plusieurs

[3:57] mois avant que les changements

[3:59] entrent en vigueur. Bien que je

[4:02] ne puisse pas parler au nom du

[4:05] conseil, j'ai l'intention

[4:07] d'assister aux séances

[4:08] d'information publique sur le

[4:10] règlement et de les considérer

[4:12] comme des réunions de

[4:14] consultations publiques. Je suis

[4:16] très ouvert aux commentaires des

[4:18] citoyens. While I believe we all

[4:24] share the goal of wanting to do

[4:26] more to conserve water, I want

[4:28] to make clear that I agreed with

[4:29] some of the issues raised by

[4:31] councillors Cousineau and

[4:32] Bissonnette last time. My main

[4:34] concern is making sure that

[4:35] citizens are heard on changes

[4:36] that will affect their daily

[4:38] lives. We now have a grace

[4:39] period of several months before

[4:41] the changes take effect. While I

[4:44] cannot speak for Council, I plan

[4:45] to attend the public information

[4:46] sessions on the bylaw and treat

[4:48] them as public consultation

[4:50] meetings. I will be very open to

[4:52] input from citizens. Now, I was

[4:55] part of the Montréal, the Agglo

[5:00] consultation process on water

[5:03] conservation. I believe in it

[5:05] extremely strongly. And I think

[5:06] it is the future we have to take

[5:08] -- be responsible. However,

[5:10] there were a couple of points

[5:11] that Paul pointed out there were

[5:13] sections where I thought it was

[5:14] a little draconian in its

[5:16] implementation. And it concerned

[5:17] me a little, so I think we have

[5:18] time to maybe give our own

[5:20] little Pointe-Claire spin on it

[5:22] and see where we go from there.

[5:29] Nous avons annoncé

[5:32] l'implantation de bornes

[5:34] électriques. Ceci est un pas de

[5:37] plus vers la transition

[5:39] énergétique grâce à

[5:41] l'installation de 49 bornes de

[5:43] recharge électrique dans cette

[5:45] aire du stationnement municipal.

[5:48] Bâtiment des loisirs, 94 avenue

[5:51] (inaudible)

[5:52] , Bibliothèque centrale, sans

[5:56] avenue

[5:57] (inaudible)

[5:58] , hôtel de ville, dans sa 51

[6:01] boulevard Saint-Jean, 50 avenue

[6:05] Thera quota, 246 chemins du lac,

[6:11] le centre aquatique, le centre

[6:17] sportif sur le boulevard

[6:19] Brunswick. Ces installations se

[6:22] poursuivent jusqu'à la fin du

[6:23] mois de septembre. Ces bombes

[6:29] vient appuyer l'utilisation de

[6:31] véhicules électriques dans notre

[6:33] communauté. Je vous rappelle que

[6:34] les subventions du gouvernement

[6:36] fédéral et provincial sont

[6:37] toujours en vigueur cette année.

[6:39] Le montant maximum est de 12000

[6:42] dollars pour les personnes qui

[6:43] pensent acheter un véhicule

[6:46] électrique. Elle y a aussi un

[6:48] programme de subventions du

[6:49] gouvernement du Québec pour

[6:52] l'achat et la restauration de

[6:54] bornes à votre résidence. Vous

[6:56] pouvez trouver toutes les

[6:58] informations sur le sud du

[6:59] gouvernement du Québec. The

[7:01] renewable energy initiative or

[7:03] certificate, excuse me,

[7:04] renewable energy certificate. I

[7:05] would like to talk about

[7:06] something that's made me very

[7:08] proud. The City of Pointe-Claire

[7:09] is continuing to reduce its

[7:10] ecological footprint and

[7:12] accelerate its commitment to a

[7:13] clean energy transition in

[7:15] environmental protection. In

[7:18] 2023, electricity consumption,

[7:22] for all municipal

[7:23] infrastructures, -- 8140

[7:26] megawatts per hour. Was supplied

[7:28] entirely by renewable energy

[7:30] sources. This means that every

[7:32] appliance switched on, every

[7:33] street light and every municipal

[7:35] building powered in

[7:36] Pointe-Claire contributed to a

[7:37] cleaner, more sustainable future

[7:39] for generations to come. With

[7:42] this environmental initiative,

[7:44] Pointe-Claire has become the

[7:45] first municipality to prove, by

[7:47] obtaining renewable energy

[7:49] certificates, that the energy it

[7:51] consumes comes from 100%

[7:53] renewable sources. Lead

[7:56] conversion. De plus, avec la

[8:00] conversion de 2968 luminaires,

[8:07] nous avons une dissimulation de

[8:10] la consommation électrique de

[8:18] 896 741 kilowattheure heures en

[8:20] 1 an ceci permet de diminuer la

[8:23] charge électrique sur la charge

[8:26] d'Hydro-Québec, qui est

[8:29] l'équivalent d'environ 40

[8:31] maisons unifamiliales chaque

[8:36] année. Nous avons reçu sur le

[8:37] rapport de conciliation

[8:39] d'économie d'énergie pour le

[8:40] projet de la conversion

[8:44] d'éclairage routier au DEL par

[8:47] la compagnie Énergir. Selon les

[8:49] résultats du projet, nous avons

[8:52] réalisé des économies de coûts

[8:57] d'énergie du projet de ça 1

[9:08] million... de 101 millions

[9:09] dollars. I will try that again.

[9:13] (inaudible)

[9:14] We will continue our efforts to

[9:15] make Pointe-Claire a model of

[9:17] environmental sustainability and

[9:19] resilience. Every action counts

[9:20] and together, we can make great

[9:22] things happen to protect the

[9:24] environment and before I go on,

[9:25] I forgot that we should do the

[9:28] Councillors reports. I will

[9:29] start with Councillor Cowan.

[9:37] It's on the side.

[9:42] >> Well first of all, I would

[9:44] like to reiterate what the mayor

[9:46] said about the Canada Day

[9:49] celebrations. Like, I've been a

[9:50] resident of Pointe-Claire for 30

[9:52] years and they were by far the

[9:53] best I have ever seen. I think

[9:55] we have a reputation throughout

[9:57] the island now, or at least the

[9:59] West Island, and there was a lot

[10:01] of people that were

[10:03] concentrating in for the

[10:04] fireworks, so I think it's

[10:05] showing that we're doing

[10:06] something fantastic and kudos to

[10:08] the staff that put it all

[10:10] together. It was outstanding.

[10:12] Then one other comment about

[10:15] district eight. It looks like

[10:17] that bicycle path through

[10:19] horizon woods, while, looks like

[10:20] next week, it starts. But again,

[10:23] that's the City of Montréal

[10:24] that's doing it, so we can only

[10:27] pray that it will actually start

[10:29] on schedule. I'm told July 10th,

[10:31] so I will be watching. Thank

[10:34] you.

[10:35] >> Councillor Cousineau?

[10:38] - Monsieur Cousineau?

[10:40] - Rien de spécial, sauf que

[10:43] monsieur Dupont n'est pas là. Je

[10:44] voulais m'excuser, quand il m'a

[10:46] posé la question à la dernière

[10:49] assemblée, je ne me rappelais

[10:50] pas du meeting, mais il avait

[10:52] raison. Je me suis rappelé du

[10:55] meeting et je me suis rappelé de

[10:56] la conversation. Je lui ai parlé

[10:59] et je lui ai juste dit que je

[11:01] m'excuserais ce soir. Merci. >>

[11:05] Councillor Stainforth?

[11:11] >> I would just like to thank

[11:12] all of my residents who came out

[11:14] to meet with me at my meet and

[11:16] greet. Wonderful exchanges, your

[11:19] concerns have been brought to

[11:20] the city and I look forward to

[11:22] having more fruitful exchanges

[11:24] in the future.

[11:27] Merci aux résidents qui sont

[11:29] venus me rencontrer, j'avais

[11:30] deux rencontres.

[11:32] Malheureusement, la troisième a

[11:33] été annulée dû à certaines

[11:35] circonstances, mais on a on... a

[11:37] eu de superbes échanges et j'ai

[11:38] hâte au prochain réunion. Merci.

[11:42] >> Councillor Bissonnette?

[11:45] - Bonsoir, j'aimerais juste

[11:47] remercier l'administration pour

[11:48] les deux événements: la

[11:50] Saint-Jean-Baptiste c'est la

[11:51] fête du Canada. >> A lot of work

[11:53] went into that. A lot of

[11:54] planning went into it and I

[11:56] appreciate it very much, thank

[11:57] you very much.

[11:59] Je n'ai pas d'autre chose de

[12:01] spécial, merci. >> Councillor

[12:02] Homan?

[12:03] >> Good evening, everyone. I

[12:04] have to say the same thing. It

[12:06] was one of our better candidate

[12:08] days. I don't remember having so

[12:09] many people show up as they did

[12:12] yesterday. It was phenomenal and

[12:14] so many young families to, lots

[12:16] of little ones, so that was

[12:17] great. Fireworks were great and

[12:20] Saint-Jean baptized was

[12:22] wonderful. The other thing I

[12:23] might suggest is for next year,

[12:25] if anyone has the time, one of

[12:27] the things that we do in

[12:29] Pointe-Claire were very

[12:31] fortunate, we have the Canadian

[12:32] citizenship ceremony which, for

[12:34] me, excuse me, is one of the

[12:35] most interesting things and it's

[12:38] wonderful to see new Canadians

[12:40] taking the oath and singing the

[12:42] national anthem. So, it's

[12:44] usually done around 2:00 on the

[12:46] afternoon of Canada Day at

[12:47] Stewart Hall, so next year if

[12:49] you're not doing anything else,

[12:50] I invite you to come and partake

[12:53] in that because it's just a

[12:54] wonderful, wonderful event. Let

[12:56] me think, what else? The other

[12:58] thing is our project of

[13:01] reconstruction for Monterrey and

[13:02] mill haven is going well. It's

[13:04] on target and so far, so good.

[13:08] It should be finished by the end

[13:09] of August, from what I heard

[13:11] from the engineering the other

[13:13] day. So, that is about it. I

[13:15] wish you all a wonderful few

[13:17] weeks and summer holidays, and

[13:19] hope you enjoy your time with

[13:21] your family and friends, thank

[13:22] you.

[13:23] >> Councillor Tremblay?

[13:25] >> Yeah, thank you, Mister

[13:26] Mayor. Welcome, everybody, to

[13:28] the session tonight. So, I don't

[13:30] have too much to add on top of

[13:31] what everyone else has said. I

[13:32] do participate in the Canada Day

[13:35] and Saint-Jean baptized holidays

[13:37] and they were absolutely

[13:38] fantastic. We were very lucky

[13:40] with the weather. Juste pour

[13:42] dire que je suis en train de

[13:44] planifier, également, des

[13:45] rencontres citoyennes. Ça va

[13:48] venir soit au mois d'août ou au

[13:49] mois de septembre. So, I will

[13:51] also be planning citizen

[13:53] meetings that are coming up in

[13:54] either August or September. So,

[13:57] looking forward to that. Enjoy

[13:58] the meeting tonight, thank you.

[14:01] >> Councillor Thorstad-Cullen?

[14:03] You good? Okay, Councillor

[14:05] Stork?

[14:06] >> Just to reiterate about the

[14:07] Canada Day and St. John

[14:08] baptized.

[14:09] - Bonsoir à tous. I know walking

[14:13] around, some things and life are

[14:14] so simple. Like, the thing that

[14:16] really impressed me is I can

[14:18] take a pile of sand, throw it in

[14:20] a corner, and kids just lose

[14:22] their minds. The amount of

[14:24] camaraderie, there was no

[14:25] fighting. Every kid was within

[14:26] an inch of each other it was,

[14:28] you know, sometimes things are

[14:29] very, very simple and it's just

[14:34] congratulations in reference to

[14:35] north of you, I mean, everything

[14:36] is moving along. Winthrop was

[14:38] started, as we know, big we

[14:40] construction of Winthrop that

[14:42] square with the bike path. Got

[14:44] some phone calls and reference

[14:45] to trucks parking but trying to

[14:47] mitigate that as best as

[14:48] possible. The pickleball, tennis

[14:50] court at Northview is delayed a

[14:52] bit, but it is still on schedule

[14:54] to finish on September 15th. The

[14:59] they paved in front of the

[15:00] Shelley, it was pretty bumpy so

[15:01] they took care of that, so

[15:02] they're actually, you know,

[15:03] everything is being addressed

[15:04] outside of that, no news on the

[15:08] see us at this point that I'm

[15:10] aware of. Outside of that, thank

[15:11] you, Mayor, Mister Mayor, and

[15:14] let's give --

[15:17] - O.K., On peut commencer. 1.1

[15:22] Adoption de l'ordre du jour.

[15:23] C'est le retrait du mois

[15:32] 17.2, ce sera d'autoriser et

[15:34] d'approuver une demande pour

[15:36] désigner un CELI brun. >> 1.1,

[15:39] adoption of the agenda with two

[15:40] changes. The withdrawal of item

[15:43] 17.2 and the addition of an item

[15:47] as 19.1 under varia section.

[15:51] Authorized and approved in

[15:53] application to designate an

[15:58] efficient.

[16:00] >> 3.1, to approve the minutes

[16:02] of the regular meeting of June,

[16:04] yes?

[16:05] >> Okay, sorry, sorry, Daniel.

[16:07] >> To approve the minutes of the

[16:08] regular meeting of June 4th,

[16:11] 2024.

[16:13] >> For 1.1 and 3.1, do I have a

[16:15] mover?

[16:16] >> Claude Cousineau, district

[16:18] one.

[16:19] >> And a seconder?

[16:20] >> Brent Cowan, district eight.

[16:21] >> All in favour?

[16:25] >> So, question period.

[16:28] - Ce soir, pour la période des

[16:30] questions, vous avez été

[16:33] accueilli à l'entrée pour vous

[16:34] inscrire à la période des

[16:36] questions. L'intention de cette

[16:39] démarche est d'abord de

[16:40] permettre aux personnes de

[16:42] demeurer assise jusqu'à l'appel

[16:44] de leur nom et d'accorder la

[16:46] priorité aux résidentes et aux

[16:48] résidents de Pointe-Claire. Nos

[16:51] garderont 90 minutes pour la

[16:53] période de questions. Une

[16:55] période à la fois au micro. Nous

[16:57] vous remercions d'attendre qu'un

[17:00] citoyen ait terminé de poser sa

[17:02] question et que vous soyez

[17:03] appelés avant de vous lever pour

[17:06] venir poser votre question. Les

[17:09] non-résidents présents pourront

[17:11] poser leurs questions par la

[17:12] suite si le temps n'est pas

[17:14] écouler. For question period

[17:16] tonight, during question period,

[17:17] you were greeted at the entrance

[17:18] to register for it. The goal of

[17:20] this approach is to allow people

[17:21] to remain seated until their

[17:23] name is called and give priority

[17:24] to Pointe-Claire residents. We

[17:26] shall stick to the 90 minute

[17:28] time limit for question period.

[17:30] One person at a time at the

[17:33] microphone, thank you for

[17:34] waiting for a citizen to finish

[17:36] asking their question to be

[17:37] called before you get up to ask

[17:39] yours. Nonresidents present will

[17:41] be able to ask questions

[17:42] afterwards, if there is still

[17:44] time. So, to start, Antonio

[17:49] Carlos chia. I have a G. Je

[17:59] m'excuse. Oui, Monsieur! Good

[18:02] question.

[18:08] >> Hello, I don't think it's on.

[18:09] >> It is, it works.

[18:11] >> Okay, good evening, everyone.

[18:13] Thank you for giving me the

[18:15] chance of asking a question. I

[18:17] would like to ask about item

[18:21] 16.1. The multi use path between

[18:28] Alston and stove you. That I'm

[18:32] told, according to information I

[18:36] heard, that it's gonna pass just

[18:38] behind my house. How many

[18:43] questions can I ask? I'm not

[18:44] familiar with the protocol here.

[18:46] >> Preamble of one question and

[18:49] then one follow-up after the

[18:51] first question.

[18:53] >> So, my first question is,

[18:57] what are the authorized and the

[18:59] non authorize uses of this multi

[19:03] use path?

[19:05] >> It will be a linear park a

[19:07] form of a linear park with

[19:09] primarily a bike path.

[19:13] >> So, I cannot ride a

[19:16] motorcycle through this path?

[19:18] >> No.

[19:21] >> And is it open 24 hours?

[19:25] >> That is a good question. I

[19:27] don't think so. Madame Verdun,

[19:28] will be open 24 hours?

[19:31] >> Yes, the bike path, so

[19:35] basically, you know, people can

[19:36] use it whenever they want. But

[19:38] for sure, they have to respect,

[19:40] you know, all citizens have to

[19:42] respect the bylaw that after

[19:45] 11:00, they cannot make, you

[19:46] know, any noise.

[19:48] >> I'm sorry, I didn't hear your

[19:50] answer properly, can you repeat

[19:52] it?

[19:53] >> Okay, it's a bike path but

[19:54] for sure, we don't have, you

[19:56] know, any hours that is closed

[19:58] or open. It's always open to

[20:00] people. But after some certain

[20:02] hours, people have to respect

[20:05] the noise. For example, 11:00,

[20:08] they're not supposed to make

[20:10] noise.

[20:11] >> Okay and how do you enforce

[20:15] --

[20:16] >> We're now at number three but

[20:17] that is okay, sir, keep going.

[20:19] >> How do you enforce what is

[20:22] authorized and what is not? For

[20:24] instance, if people start to

[20:26] congregate there because I'm

[20:28] concerned with the safety to our

[20:32] houses, the noise, even the lack

[20:34] of privacy and things like that.

[20:37] >> Well, there will be fencing

[20:39] and we do have public security,

[20:41] so like anywhere in the city, it

[20:44] will be taken care of and looked

[20:46] after.

[20:48] >> -- I'm calling the --

[20:50] >> Sure, you could call but, I

[20:52] mean, it'll be part, I'm sure,

[20:54] of regular events like anywhere

[20:55] else in the city.

[20:59] >> Okay, that's all my time.

[21:02] >> Thanks.

[21:05] >> Nadine Pereira.

[21:13] >> Hello? I am here on behalf of

[21:17] -- rosy Illinois. I think

[21:19] everyone is aware that we try to

[21:22] request change, a zone change

[21:24] for six Avenue due golf. We feel

[21:27] like we would like to ask you to

[21:30] deliberate and reconsider the

[21:33] possibility of the zone change.

[21:35] We feel that we would fit in

[21:37] well there, since the house is

[21:39] adjacent to three other

[21:42] businesses. And that if we had

[21:43] the chance to explain to the

[21:47] neighbours what our hours are

[21:48] and how we worked, that they

[21:49] could see that it would not be

[21:50] that disruptive. Our ours are

[21:52] from 11 to 3:30, our guests are

[21:55] gone by 3:30. We are not a

[21:57] restaurant that has, like, high

[21:59] volume, we did request 40 seats

[22:01] but that big is because 24 wins

[22:03] for afternoon tea. We have

[22:05] services at 11 and 1:30, so the

[22:07] traffic is really specific to

[22:09] those times and again, everyone

[22:11] is gone by 3:30. We're not a

[22:13] restaurant that has a huge

[22:14] kitchen. We use residential

[22:16] equipment. We don't have fryers,

[22:17] it's not, like, it's not the

[22:19] type of place where we would

[22:21] have disruptive clients. Our

[22:22] clients are between the ages of

[22:23] 40 and 105. They are quiet, they

[22:27] are not here to party, they are

[22:28] really getting together with

[22:29] friends to just have, like, I

[22:31] get together and we just feel

[22:34] like this house, because of the

[22:36] way it is, the way it's built,

[22:38] it has no windows on one side of

[22:40] the wall because it is adjacent

[22:42] to the other property at eight

[22:44] golf. It has no yard, it has no

[22:47] space for, like, a person to

[22:50] want to use it as residential.

[22:51] The house is so odd that the

[22:54] only fit could be a commercial

[22:57] space and our commercial space

[22:59] would actually be less

[23:01] disruptive than if it was a

[23:02] store where customers were

[23:03] coming and going, and we just

[23:07] kind of hoped that you guys

[23:08] would be able to consider our

[23:12] usage of the space as

[23:14] commercial, as being different

[23:16] than any other type of business

[23:18] that would come in. We also, I

[23:23] think, if the residents also

[23:25] understood, we made a mistake of

[23:26] not talking to the residents

[23:27] before to explain the project

[23:29] but if they understood that the

[23:31] usage would be allotted to our

[23:34] business, with our business

[23:36] hours, it would not be able,

[23:37] another restaurant would be able

[23:38] to come in and then start having

[23:40] hours until midnight. They would

[23:41] have to go through the same

[23:42] process of being approved. Maybe

[23:43] they could support us, so what

[23:46] we are requesting is a

[23:48] deliberation of reconsidering us

[23:50] using the space to give us the

[23:53] chance to post it and be able to

[23:55] speak with the neighbours and

[23:57] see if they could support us as

[23:59] well, after doing that. So,

[24:04] that's it.

[24:05] >> That's the preamble, is there

[24:06] a question?

[24:07] >> Yeah, the question is please

[24:09] deliberate. Can you deliberate

[24:10] or consider, for the voting of

[24:13] the --

[24:14] >> There has been considerable

[24:16] deliberation, I think, to come

[24:17] to the conclusion that has been

[24:19] arrived at. It was went through

[24:23] pack and then we did speak to it

[24:24] at Council as well, so there has

[24:26] been considerable deliberation.

[24:28] >> Sorry, I think our plea is

[24:30] more, like, can we let it go to

[24:31] the next step so that the

[24:33] neighbours can, like, we can get

[24:34] a consensus from the neighbours

[24:36] together? Like, with them?

[24:38] >> Well, from what I understand,

[24:39] the deliberation has been made.

[24:42] What I, from what I know of the

[24:44] property, it has been

[24:45] residential for a long period of

[24:47] time and has been successfully

[24:49] residential for a long period of

[24:51] time. I think there is concerns

[24:53] of parking in the neighbourhood.

[24:55] Valid ones and from what I

[24:57] understand, some of the parking

[24:59] issues that are to be avoided in

[25:02] downtown, in the village centre,

[25:03] has been moved already to the

[25:04] existing commercial property.

[25:06] There's already an overflow of

[25:08] parking being moved to the

[25:09] Westmount floors property, which

[25:11] would be the one of the parking

[25:13] solutions there. I also know

[25:15] that the refinishing shop has

[25:19] been sold and it's probably

[25:21] going to be a commercial

[25:23] exercise as well. There is a

[25:24] parking issue already in the

[25:27] neighbourhood, so I think this

[25:28] had some bearing on the

[25:30] deliberations. The main concern

[25:31] is parking. It is employees or

[25:33] anything. From what I

[25:35] understand, and I think 40 seats

[25:37] was quite overwhelming for the

[25:38] very quiet area, and what's

[25:41] already going, there are no

[25:43] trees and a dentist and so, I

[25:45] don't think the fit was right,

[25:47] from what I understood. With the

[25:49] conversations. But, you know,

[25:51] that was a majority decision.

[25:52] >> Okay so I guess the last

[25:54] thing, just to say, is that this

[25:55] house has been on the market for

[25:56] a long time. They are not able

[25:58] to sell it. There's already,

[25:59] like, three other houses on the

[26:01] street that are not, like,

[26:02] getting sold. I'm not sure why

[26:03] one of them is been abandoned

[26:05] for since 2022. This one has

[26:07] been on the market since 2023.

[26:08] It's just not fitting with

[26:10] residents because of the way it

[26:11] is. There is no land, like,

[26:12] there's absolutely no land, no

[26:14] yard. It's just like a little

[26:16] odd house. Like, no bedrooms

[26:18] with no windows. Like, a regular

[26:21] person that wants to buy it as a

[26:22] residence, it won't work. I

[26:23] don't think it would work. Like,

[26:25] that's my opinion and I think

[26:26] that the only thing that would

[26:28] fit in this house is something

[26:29] commercial because only a

[26:30] commercial place would not care

[26:31] if there is no windows and a

[26:33] room. That's what I can say

[26:38] about that. Like, if it's not

[26:39] us, if the House can be torn

[26:40] down because it's historic, I

[26:42] think, there's not really much

[26:45] of a match for that building.

[26:47] And we would keep the integrity

[26:48] of the building. We're not

[26:49] changing anything of the facade,

[26:51] we're not using the terrasse,

[26:52] not using the rooftop terrasse

[26:53] or anything. It's really four

[26:55] seats and again, like, this

[26:56] evening, I know it's

[26:57] overwhelming but it's really 24

[26:59] seats, five days a week, and

[27:01] twice a week for two hour period

[27:02] where it could possibly be 40

[27:05] seats. If it gets booked.

[27:08] >> Why houses sell and don't

[27:09] sell is a mystery to me. My

[27:12] former house in Victoria took a

[27:13] very long time. Took a couple

[27:14] years to sell but sold and I

[27:17] suspect that will be the case

[27:18] with this one as well. It was a

[27:20] successful residential property

[27:21] for the extended period of time,

[27:23] so I'm not sure that there won't

[27:26] be a buyer forward at some point

[27:27] in time for residentially, so

[27:29] I'm not convinced of that

[27:31] argument. But as for

[27:35] reconsidering, I don't think so.

[27:36] But we can leave that up to

[27:38] Council, but I suspect that the

[27:40] decision is the decision that's

[27:42] been rendered.

[27:43] >> Thank you.

[27:44] >> Sorry about that. When

[27:49] >> Sandra Mackay.

[27:55] >> Good evening. Well, as you

[27:58] know, we are in a climate

[28:00] emergency and it's more

[28:01] important than ever to protect

[28:04] CO2 absorbing trees and

[28:06] biodiversity. There have been

[28:08] multiple environmental studies,

[28:10] as many of you already know,

[28:12] that prove that Fairview forest

[28:14] is ecologically sensitive. So,

[28:17] given this, and with the --

[28:20] representing future generations,

[28:22] I would like to ask Council,

[28:24] would Council please consider

[28:27] using law 39, the Expropriations

[28:30] law, to expropriate the land

[28:33] that's known as Fairview forest?

[28:34] Thank you.

[28:36] >> It's a good question and it

[28:37] is one that we are considering.

[28:39] I mean, Bill 39, we are going to

[28:41] be exploring as a Council, as to

[28:43] what's possibilities are and

[28:44] what we legally can do. Moving

[28:48] forward. I've already spoken,

[28:50] Madame Verdun, we are getting

[28:53] briefed on Bill 39 and its

[28:55] potential applications in the

[28:57] near future, I believe?

[28:58] >> Eventually, something that

[29:00] would be brought up to the

[29:01] council but not exclusive to

[29:03] Fairview forest. But we

[29:05] understand, you know, the law,

[29:07] you know? And all, you know, the

[29:09] things that we can do under that

[29:12] specific law that exists now.

[29:14] >> It has had some interesting

[29:16] precedent set already, as we

[29:17] read in the last couple weeks.

[29:19] So, it's definitely something to

[29:20] be considered.

[29:21] >> That's excellent news, thank

[29:23] you.

[29:24] >> Thank you. André Climate? Oh

[29:30] sorry, yeah, thank you. Randy

[29:32] got a? Sorry, Randy.

[29:35] >> No problem, Mister Mayor.

[29:37] Last time I was here, I

[29:38] mentioned I have four daughters.

[29:40] My eldest is 21, she lives in

[29:42] the in Dorval because she can't

[29:43] afford an apartment. My three

[29:45] others are 13, 11, and nine. My

[29:48] question is, what is

[29:50] Pointe-Claire's plan for them

[29:51] when they turn 18 to 21, like

[29:53] some of your children were, to

[29:55] be able to afford an apartment

[29:56] in Pointe-Claire?

[29:58] >> That's a very valid question.

[30:00] We have to be very selective and

[30:03] going forward and how we decide

[30:05] to replenish our building stock,

[30:07] and how we do build. In this

[30:10] city, so that we can actually

[30:11] allow people to afford and move

[30:14] here, and it's a real challenge

[30:16] because it's 20 to 25 minutes

[30:18] from downtown Montréal. It's

[30:20] highly sought after, it's along

[30:21] the water and it's getting

[30:23] gentrified as we speak,

[30:24] completely gentrified as we

[30:25] speak and it is an issue. The

[30:27] market is driving the pricing

[30:30] upwards, incredibly, and it is a

[30:32] real problem for anybody who's

[30:34] been raised, or whether they can

[30:36] actually live here, themselves,

[30:38] once they become adults, as my

[30:40] son -- son in Pierrefonds son

[30:42] and Kirkland and they're in

[30:43] their twenties. You know, so I

[30:45] hear you loud and clear. I -- a

[30:49] lot of decisions we made. Some

[30:50] of them, I mean, I think we have

[30:52] a news the duplex, triplex, the

[30:54] missing middle. We have a new

[30:55] semi detached, we haven't used

[30:57] town houses. We haven't built as

[30:59] much affordable housing stock as

[31:01] we should have even in just a

[31:03] residential development, I look

[31:04] at, you know, St. Louis and I

[31:06] look at other streets and I

[31:07] think, boy, semi detached

[31:08] would've worked really nicely.

[31:09] Two houses instead of one.

[31:12] There's all kinds of things we

[31:13] can do, still. Whether it will

[31:16] be affordable for today's youth,

[31:17] I mean, it may still be out of

[31:18] reach. I mean, semi detached and

[31:21] -- Andy G is so quite expensive,

[31:23] right? Or Westmount so but there

[31:26] are things we can do and one of

[31:27] the things I lament is that we

[31:29] allow very, very large houses to

[31:31] be built on the Post -- homes

[31:33] that are getting knocked down

[31:34] that can house only one family

[31:36] where those lives could be used,

[31:37] I think, more effectively. I

[31:39] think we can allow for more

[31:41] housing and we can start to

[31:43] change our ways of building

[31:45] going, forward. Duplexes and

[31:47] triplexes, multiplexes are the

[31:49] missing middle, is, for me, the

[31:53] preferable option without going

[31:54] 8 million miles wide. There are,

[31:56] you know, we can change or build

[31:58] environment and try to make it

[31:59] more affordable. Whether it will

[32:00] work or not, whether it's just

[32:01] too sought after in geography, I

[32:03] mean, Pointe-Claire is very

[32:04] sought after. Who knows? The

[32:06] market is very challenging thing

[32:08] and I've always been of the

[32:10] theory that if you want to make

[32:12] affordability, you've got to do

[32:13] something other than rely on the

[32:14] market. You have to rely on

[32:16] government. So, that's a long

[32:17] winded answer. I hope that

[32:19] helps.

[32:20] >> I'm hoping there's actually a

[32:22] plan coming out of that.

[32:23] >> Well, they're building

[32:25] stopped going forward. Our urban

[32:26] plan and how we move forward,

[32:28] how we develop our city is the

[32:30] plan.

[32:32] >> Okay, just one other

[32:33] follow-up.

[32:34] >> One follow-up, absolutely.

[32:35] >> Last meeting, I asked your

[32:36] question regarding my ditch. You

[32:38] said you are going to follow up.

[32:40] >> Yeah.

[32:41] >> Have you come into --

[32:42] >> Well, the ditch is an issue

[32:43] because apparently, somebody has

[32:44] paved over the drainage or

[32:46] there's been a driveway built so

[32:48] that the ditch can drain as well

[32:49] as it should. We have parts of

[32:52] Pointe-Claire where those

[32:53] ditches actually function to

[32:54] dream properly, right? And it is

[32:56] an antiquated solution but we're

[32:58] getting to these areas one step

[32:59] at a time. But right now, it is

[33:01] a way of diminishing water

[33:04] runoff. However, if it pools to

[33:07] dangerous levels, as you pointed

[33:08] out, it is an issue and at some

[33:10] point, we have to find a

[33:12] solution. I understand in your

[33:13] particular circumstance, a

[33:15] driveway where it was built,

[33:17] something was built so that it

[33:18] can't drain properly. So, there

[33:19] may be a measure that can be

[33:23] taken. I'm not sure. Do you

[33:24] remember the conclusion of that

[33:26] conversation, Madame Verdun?

[33:28] >> Can you contact me tomorrow?

[33:30] I can look at that particular

[33:31] file, you know, with you.

[33:33] >> Sure, I don't know your

[33:35] contact information.

[33:37] >> I will send you maybe, you

[33:41] know, Lucy? Give you information

[33:42] to Danielle and I will contact

[33:44] you tomorrow about it.

[33:45] >> Perfect, thank you.

[33:48] >> Thank you, Mister garden. Mr.

[33:53] Clermont?

[34:04] - Bonjour. Je m'appelle André

[34:07] Clermont j'arbitre cela Rudolph

[34:08] à Pointe-Claire. J'aurais des

[34:10] questions pour l'article 17,12.

[34:13] Je viens d'avoir quelques

[34:15] réponses. Concernant le PPCMOI,

[34:21] pourriez-vous me donner un peu

[34:22] de détails?

[34:25] - L'opération le PPCMOI? Madame

[34:30] Verdon, le PPCMOI?

[34:32] - Votre question exactement?

[34:34] Est-ce que c'est des

[34:35] informations sur ce projet-là ou

[34:37] sur la procédure?

[34:38] - Sur le projet, mais qu'est-ce

[34:39] que ça veut dire en gros? De ce

[34:42] que j'ai compris tantôt, c'est

[34:44] un changement de zonage.

[34:46] - C'est un changement de zonage

[34:48] spécifique à un projet, donc ce

[34:50] n'est pas pour l'ensemble de la

[34:52] zone. C'est un zonage, on

[34:54] pourrait dire, pour un solo et

[34:56] un seul projet en particulier,

[34:58] mais ça suit à peu près la même

[35:00] procédure d'un changement de

[35:02] zonage. Éventuellement, si le

[35:04] Conseil décide d'y aller avant

[35:05] ce soir, parce que je ne veux

[35:06] pas me prononcer pour le

[35:08] conseil, ensuite, il y aurait un

[35:10] processus de référendaire qui

[35:12] serait mis en place par la

[35:13] Ville. Donc, il y aurait des

[35:15] avis publics, il y aurait un

[35:18] registre référendaire,

[35:20] éventuellement, qui pourrait

[35:21] mener à un référendum.

[35:22] - Merci. Juste pour vous dire

[35:26] que les résidents, la dame

[35:29] tantôt disait que ce n'est pas

[35:31] vendable pour une résidence, ce

[35:32] n'est pas bon. Les gens qui sont

[35:34] restés là, Eli sont restés

[35:36] depuis plus de 25 ans et ils

[35:37] étaient très heureux. En plus,

[35:40] j'ai su que les propriétaires,

[35:42] quelqu'un leur a offert de louer

[35:44] la maison et ils ont refusé.

[35:50] Résidentielle, ça fait au-dessus

[35:52] de 25 à qui il y a des gens qui

[35:55] habitent, et je crois fermement

[35:56] que ça doit rester comme ça et

[35:58] ça ne devrait pas être

[36:02] commercial. Je ne me répéterai

[36:04] pas, je vous ai dit ce que j'en

[36:06] pensais tantôt... l'autre jour.

[36:08] Je suis contre le projet. C'est

[36:10] ça, je suis contre pour

[36:12] plusieurs raisons, vous les

[36:13] connaissez. Merci.

[36:14] - Merci. >> Niki Fournier?

[36:18] Niki Fournier.

[36:25] >> Good evening. I'm here to

[36:27] talk about 575 Saint John. My

[36:31] favourite neighbour. I'm very

[36:34] familiar with minister Sonia

[36:38] Bélanger who's in charge of

[36:39] health and old folks homes. We

[36:43] communicate often and all I can

[36:44] get out of them is that there

[36:47] will be an information session

[36:50] at one point. And I've been

[36:52] trying, for two years, to

[36:54] convince them, we don't want an

[36:56] information session. We don't

[36:57] want to be told, this is a --

[37:00] this is what we're doing, take

[37:02] it, leave it, and that's it,

[37:03] that's all. I had the pleasure

[37:07] of having a few rats in my visit

[37:12] since they demolished things, so

[37:14] I went to the site and asked the

[37:15] guys that were working. I said,

[37:17] what are you doing? They said

[37:18] nothing, so I came to the city

[37:20] and it's led to the City, what

[37:21] are you doing about the vermin

[37:22] that are coming out of buildings

[37:23] that are torn down? Nothing.

[37:25] There's nothing we can do. So,

[37:28] with all that, I'm asking, and

[37:30] we have skunks, we have

[37:32] groundhogs, we have all the

[37:33] buildings that have been beside

[37:35] the man who are and whatever is

[37:36] happening on Hymus. I think it's

[37:38] time the city goes back to

[37:41] trying to capture all these poor

[37:43] creatures that have been moved.

[37:45] I was brought up on a farm, I

[37:47] love animals, but they belong in

[37:48] the bush. They don't belong in

[37:50] my yard. They don't belong in

[37:52] yours. They don't belong

[37:53] anywhere. I have a hair that's

[37:56] decided to feet, two feet from

[37:58] my steps, that I go by daily, to

[38:01] have a family there. I have a

[38:03] little groundhog that comes to

[38:04] my front door to say hello all

[38:06] the time. If I leave my garage

[38:08] open, he's in. If I leave my

[38:10] door open to the garden, they

[38:13] had a blast. They ate all my

[38:16] piece and all my charred and

[38:18] everything else that I had

[38:19] built. It's time for the City to

[38:21] capture these things and

[38:23] relocate them in the bush, where

[38:24] they belong. That's all I'm

[38:26] asking. It just happened this

[38:30] morning, Tara put something

[38:31] about a beautiful, little skunk

[38:32] on our street with three little

[38:34] babies behind everyone saying

[38:35] oh, cute. Oh, they're so cute,

[38:37] so wonderful. Are you serious?

[38:40] Have you seen what a skunk can

[38:42] do? I don't have a dog but the

[38:44] neighbours do. Yes, there

[38:46] helpful. Yes, they come and they

[38:48] eat the grubs in our gardens.

[38:49] But we don't need 25 of them on

[38:52] a property. Just saying. I have

[38:55] been asking for a contingency

[38:58] plan with all this construction

[38:59] happening around my place. I've

[39:01] asked the City, the city has

[39:03] said, we don't have one so I've

[39:05] asked, how do we establish a

[39:09] contingency plan with the City

[39:10] of Pointe-Claire so that if any

[39:13] damage is done to our property,

[39:15] I've been blessed by

[39:17] construction for the last five

[39:18] years that dust, the noise, the

[39:22] pollution, what can we do? How

[39:23] can we protect ourselves? There

[39:25] have been tests done on the site

[39:27] abound vibration. My house

[39:30] shook. There's been drilling

[39:31] done, my house shook. How will I

[39:33] protect myself? I was told, by

[39:36] Mr. Belvedere when he was mayor,

[39:38] take pictures and if anything

[39:39] happens, we will see what can

[39:40] happen. We

[39:44] [Laughter]

[39:45] Excuse me. I will catch my

[39:47] breath. We know what happened on

[39:50] Alston Street. The poor people

[39:51] and all the trouble they've had.

[39:53] City doesn't want to take

[39:55] responsibility, developer

[39:56] doesn't want to take

[39:57] responsibility, insurance does

[39:58] not want to take responsibility.

[40:01] We need a contingency plan in

[40:03] this city that will help us in

[40:05] case we have to do that. If

[40:10] fighting with -- like I've been

[40:11] doing all the last few years is

[40:12] what I would have to go through

[40:13] if my house is damaged by this

[40:15] building, it's not going to get

[40:18] done. But also, I will have to

[40:20] pay for it so please, can we set

[40:22] up a contingency plan? I know it

[40:24] doesn't exist if. Doesn't mean

[40:25] we can't have one. I would like

[40:27] one, please. So, to clarify

[40:31] contingency plan for animals,

[40:34] for the destruction of property?

[40:36] >> Destruction.

[40:37] >> Okay, so not animals?

[40:39] >> Well animals, I think the

[40:40] city, I'm asking the City to do

[40:42] something to catch these poor

[40:44] babies and take them to the

[40:46] country, where they belong.

[40:49] Because there is so much of it

[40:51] and people say, well, I don't

[40:52] have anything on mine. Of

[40:53] course, there is no construction

[40:54] around your place, for goodness

[40:56] sake! They're not disturbed.

[40:58] >> Do we have a contingency plan

[40:59] for animals? I mean, it's an

[41:01] interesting dilemma. I mean, I

[41:02] live near the golf course and I

[41:05] have the water sanitation plant

[41:08] behind me so I've had scouts and

[41:09] even foxes and stuff. When you

[41:11] worry about your domestic

[41:12] presence of two, right?

[41:13] >> Absolutely.

[41:14] >> But it is a dilemma of

[41:16] continued development, right? I

[41:17] mean, animals get moved. And

[41:20] with less and less green space,

[41:22] animals have to go somewhere and

[41:23] it is one of the realities of

[41:26] densification.

[41:28] >> So, can we do something?

[41:29] >> Who bears the brunt of that

[41:30] is a very good question. My

[41:33] advice to you is a strategy

[41:34] going forward is to perhaps vote

[41:37] electorally for less

[41:40] densification in your political

[41:41] choices and then you will have

[41:42] less of these problems because

[41:43] the more you build, the more

[41:45] this happens.

[41:46] >> Of course, are we going to

[41:47] stop building? Absolutely not.

[41:49] >> Nope.

[41:50] >> But I think we can do

[41:51] something for these animals and

[41:52] the contingency plan for the

[41:54] buildings, I think, is urgent

[41:56] because there are a lot of

[41:57] buildings happening everywhere.

[42:00] You know, like I went to

[42:02] sources. If you have the chance

[42:03] to go see the old folks home on

[42:07] sources, I've been asking for

[42:08] plans, I've been asking to see

[42:10] what will happen. It is

[42:13] atrocious what they have done to

[42:14] the neighbours on sources. We

[42:18] have to be careful and I know,

[42:20] the City always says, there's

[42:21] nothing we can do, it's the

[42:23] province. Carte blanche, they

[42:24] can do whatever. If we cannot be

[42:27] protected by our city, who can

[42:29] protect us?

[42:31] >> You're raising an interesting

[42:32] point and I think Councillor

[42:34] Stork can speak to this one as

[42:35] well. The entrance, how they

[42:39] route the traffic through that

[42:40] property is crucial to what

[42:42] happens to the neighbourhood and

[42:43] I think we're very much aware of

[42:45] that we. They're almost has to

[42:47] be an access in from Hymus,

[42:50] instead of rounding everything

[42:52] down, is it not -- or up even

[42:55] through May would. These are

[42:57] small residential streets and it

[42:59] is an issue so we don't know. As

[43:01] a city, we can look at that and

[43:03] try to do the best for the

[43:05] citizens living in that area, so

[43:06] they aren't overwhelmed by

[43:07] traffic. Especially May would. I

[43:09] mean, me what is a narrow

[43:10] street. Everybody starts --

[43:12] traffic it's rerouted up and

[43:13] down me would entirely, it will

[43:15] be a major issue. So, we have to

[43:18] be on that. I think we can do

[43:20] that, you are right. You know,

[43:22] this is a higher level of

[43:23] government that has decided to

[43:24] build and we can do our best, in

[43:27] some way, shape, or form to make

[43:28] sure that isn't too much traffic

[43:31] inconvenience. We can try and

[43:32] influence at that level, for

[43:33] sure. Councillor Stork, did you

[43:35] want to?

[43:36] >> Yeah thank you, Mister Mayor.

[43:38] I think all these issues will be

[43:41] addressed once we have more

[43:43] information. They will be

[43:44] required to do a traffic study

[43:45] which was discussed long hard

[43:46] with the options are, with

[43:48] engineering even, you know, way

[43:50] back when with the gas station.

[43:53] I think as much as I want to get

[43:54] on to it and address it, like,

[43:56] we will be having

[43:58] communications, town halls, we

[43:59] will discuss this. This will not

[44:01] go unnoticed. There will be hard

[44:03] discussions and we've talked to

[44:04] some citizens -- one way, there

[44:08] are myriad of options that we

[44:09] have to come together and come

[44:11] to some sort of conclusion

[44:12] because I don't think the

[44:13] project is going to stop. Like,

[44:15] they have their full rights,

[44:17] they're under the law, they're

[44:19] completely entitled to do what

[44:20] they want to do. I think we just

[44:21] have to do our best ability in

[44:23] Council to mitigate the

[44:24] situation and make the best of

[44:26] it. We just have to wait. I know

[44:27] it's hard to wait, but we just

[44:29] have to wait. Once we get the

[44:31] information, believe me, you

[44:32] know, we are going to pounce.

[44:35] But we just have to wait for

[44:36] that information. I think that

[44:37] is the hard part and they are

[44:39] tightlipped. You know, that's

[44:41] where we are right now. I would

[44:42] love to address the issues but

[44:44] it's just got to happen, you

[44:45] know, organically.

[44:47] >> Well, what I'm afraid of,

[44:48] they're talking about starting

[44:49] soon and once they start, how do

[44:51] we stop the machine from going?

[44:54] You know? This is how we need to

[44:57] be protected. So, this is, you

[45:01] know, I talked to them about the

[45:03] traffic and about the problems

[45:04] on May would and all these

[45:05] things and they said, well, when

[45:07] it comes to that, we will deal

[45:08] with that. That's not an answer.

[45:12] That's not an answer. So, we

[45:14] need to do something, as a city,

[45:16] to protect our citizens. We

[45:18] >> We are inquiring. We are

[45:20] inquiring.

[45:21] >> I know, it's frustrating,

[45:22] believe you me, believe you me.

[45:23] The number of emails --

[45:24] >> We are concerned as well.

[45:25] >> The discussions I've had with

[45:27] them is overwhelming. Second

[45:30] thing, if I may, this was all

[45:31] one.

[45:32] >> One more.

[45:33] >> Just a quick one.

[45:34] >> Okay.

[45:35] >> On 16 three we, I'm happy to

[45:41] see that there is going to be a

[45:43] pedestrian and bike path built

[45:46] over the highway but I would

[45:48] hope that the highway or, sorry,

[45:50] Saint John, will be fixed before

[45:53] all that is done. Don't do it

[45:54] the other way around, please.

[45:57] There is no mention that

[45:59] Saint-Jean will be repaved and

[46:00] the bridge will be re-done

[46:02] before all this is done. Can you

[46:06] enlighten me, please?

[46:07] >> When and if this will be done

[46:08] but we are in the process of

[46:11] delineating how to make it

[46:12] happen.

[46:13] >> Just trying to make sure that

[46:14] --

[46:15] >> St. John's gets repaved.

[46:16] >> And the bridge done properly.

[46:17] >> Lakeshore needs to be

[46:19] repaved. There are a few streets

[46:20] that are very obvious and --

[46:21] >> If we're going to spend over

[46:22] $2 million to do a path and to

[46:25] do all this, then tear it down

[46:26] to do Saint-Jean, just a little

[46:32] word of caution. Where would

[46:36] this be then, Tara?

[46:38] >> Potentially Alston.

[46:44] >> Well, that's a different ball

[46:46] game.

[46:47] >> We are still in the process

[46:48] of delineating that. We actually

[46:49] had an extensive discussion.

[46:50] >> Finally Île-Bizard is going

[46:51] to come all the way through?

[46:52] Thank you.

[46:53] >> The czar Jacques-Bizard

[46:55] extension is the ultimate

[46:56] solution to all of this and we

[46:57] were just debating that as a

[46:58] Council. I mean, if we could get

[47:00] a guarantee, we could run it all

[47:02] through the jock bizarre

[47:03] extension, we could have

[47:04] pedestrian, we could have

[47:06] emergency vehicle, public

[47:08] transit, and pedestrian and

[47:10] cyclist. Through the jock

[47:12] bizarre extension. It would be

[47:13] the most efficient, effective

[47:14] way of solving all of it.

[47:16] Instead of doing individual ones

[47:18] all along. It would be the

[47:19] optimal solution but the

[47:21] Jacques-Bizard extension, as we

[47:22] were talking, I see it in the

[47:24] Agglo, it's up there with the

[47:26] Cavendish extension. It's been

[47:27] talked about for over 40 years,

[47:29] I think. So, here's hoping. We

[47:31] can always hope.

[47:32] >> Okay so, just to be clear,

[47:35] you will look into how we can

[47:37] set a contingency plan with the

[47:38] City for any building that's

[47:40] built?

[47:42] >> Contingency plan for?

[47:45] >> I'm the builder, I want to

[47:47] build a place in excess and into

[47:49] damages to the citizens beside.

[47:51] The plan would be that, as my

[47:53] company, I would put X amount of

[47:54] million dollars aside so that if

[47:56] there's anything that happens,

[47:57] the citizens can just go to that

[48:00] fund without a fight and when

[48:02] it's done, and it's all, it

[48:04] doesn't exist. It exists in some

[48:06] communities, I've done my

[48:07] homework. So, that's my

[48:10] question.

[48:11] >> It's an interesting proposal.

[48:12] >> Thank you very much.

[48:13] >> Thank you.

[48:15] >> We Line Conway.

[48:26] >> Good evening, Council.

[48:28] - Bonsoir.

[48:44] Okay, something happened at the

[48:45] end of the council meeting in

[48:47] April 16th and June to my

[48:51] husband. Here it goes. Some

[48:53] councillors have often treated

[48:54] citizens concerns with disdain.

[48:57] Even contempt for many years

[48:59] how. No or was it more evident

[49:01] in last council meeting of June

[49:03] when Councillor Cousineau tried

[49:05] to justify having shown his

[49:07] middle finger to a hustler. He

[49:10] made a mockery of his name and

[49:12] then ridiculed and demeaned by

[49:14] husbands participation in

[49:16] Council over the past few years.

[49:19] It's Council not here to answer

[49:20] to the citizens? Is it not the

[49:23] purpose of this exercise? My

[49:25] husband's questions could be

[49:27] pointed, but they were never

[49:29] rude. The same cannot be said of

[49:31] the Councillors who had

[49:33] repeatedly been rude and have

[49:34] deliberately use mockery and

[49:36] sarcasm during council meetings,

[49:37] even to use, Mayor Thomas.

[49:40] They've even yelled and stormed

[49:41] out of the chambers like

[49:43] children, yet it's these very

[49:46] councillors from the previous

[49:47] administration have called in

[49:49] higher level of government --

[49:50] >> Point of order, please.

[49:53] >> Would you allow her to

[49:54] finish, please?

[49:56] >> Tell them what they're doing

[49:58] wrong, -- maybe the problem is

[50:00] not the citizens or you, Mayor

[50:02] Thomas. You've always performed

[50:04] with the quorum. The problem has

[50:05] always been the councillors not

[50:07] listening and consulting with

[50:08] citizens who elected them. Mayor

[50:12] Thomas, you did apologize to my

[50:13] husband at last month's meeting

[50:14] within councillors admitted that

[50:16] Mr. Cousineau's behaviour goes

[50:18] against the City code of

[50:20] conduct.

[50:22] >> Sorry, Miss Conway, your

[50:24] question was? I miss saw that

[50:25] just at the end

[50:27] >> You did apologize to my

[50:29] husband at last month's meeting

[50:30] but then councillors, can

[50:32] councillors admit that Mr.

[50:33] Cousineau's behaviour goes

[50:34] against the City code of

[50:36] conduct?

[50:37] >> Well, I can't speak for

[50:39] Council. I mean, Councillor

[50:41] Stork wants to speak in a

[50:42] second, so I will maybe let him

[50:43] speak to that as well. I don't

[50:49] think, I mean, as I said, my

[50:53] head is here. I'm looking at you

[50:54] from here so I cannot see up and

[50:56] down peoples behaviour. I don't

[50:58] think a middle finger to

[51:00] someone's appropriate at all and

[51:01] I don't think anybody appear

[51:02] would agree with that. Nor

[51:05] mispronouncing or suggesting

[51:06] that someone's behaviour is

[51:08] warranted that kind of response.

[51:10] I don't think it's appropriate,

[51:12] myself, personally. And I

[51:14] apologize for any offence taken,

[51:16] and I think we should make

[51:18] efforts not to behave in this

[51:19] way, absolutely. That would be

[51:21] my personal response and I will

[51:23] leave the others to respond in

[51:24] their own manner. Councillor

[51:26] Stork, you did want to speak at

[51:27] some point.

[51:28] >> Yes, I would just like to

[51:29] point of order, just remind you,

[51:31] Mister Mayor, it's your

[51:33] responsibility to PC 20 7:12 to

[51:35] hold the quorum. When

[51:36] accusations are made, such as

[51:38] Councillors storming out of here

[51:39] like children, I think that's

[51:40] where you're supposed to

[51:42] interject and hold decorum.

[51:43] Thank you.

[51:48] >>

[51:49] >> That is an interesting

[51:50] interpretation of 20 7:12. I

[51:54] think that that is the citizen's

[51:57] perception of what occurred.

[52:00] It's not a kind perception, but

[52:02] it is a citizen's perception of

[52:04] what occurred. Do we stop people

[52:08] from expressing how they

[52:09] perceive something? If they're

[52:11] not using swear words, they're

[52:12] not showing a middle finger, or

[52:14] they're not denigrating anybody

[52:16] in a malicious manner? Well, it

[52:19] crosses over. But my take on

[52:24] that is that it is not a kind of

[52:26] way of assessing what occurred,

[52:28] but it's not a tremendously

[52:32] egregious way of expressing

[52:33] oneself. I thought it was, based

[52:38] on an event that actually

[52:40] occurred, and that's the persons

[52:42] interpretation of how the event

[52:43] occurred, so I did not see it as

[52:45] egregious. I mean, it was

[52:46] borderline, though. That would

[52:48] be my interpretation.

[52:50] >> In a nutshell, I was asking

[52:52] about what Mr. Cousineau said

[52:54] ended to my husband, and what

[52:55] the councillors thought about

[52:58] this. Does it comply with the

[52:59] City's code of conduct?

[53:00] >> Okay, I've spoken to that. If

[53:02] anybody else on Council would

[53:03] like to speak to that, they are

[53:05] more than welcome.

[53:08] >> Thank you.

[53:10] >> Okay. Nasr El daddy.

[53:20] >> Good evening. In April 16th,

[53:27] the Saint-Luc council from the

[53:29] previous administration did ask

[53:33] me -- to come manage the city.

[53:37] -- Work with you, Mister Mayor,

[53:39] for what we elected you for. So,

[53:41] what exactly -- that or happened

[53:48] when they came and? Can you tell

[53:50] us in detail, please?

[53:53] >> I'm not sure. You're talking

[53:55] about manage?

[53:56] >> Yes.

[53:59] >> I'm not sure what I'm allowed

[54:01] to indulge. There were visits,

[54:04] there were some interviewing

[54:06] done. We were greeted, we were

[54:10] interviewed as a Council and

[54:11] then interviewed individually.

[54:14] We were told that there will be

[54:15] no forthcoming report in the

[54:18] Pointe-Claire instance here and

[54:20] as far as I know, I haven't

[54:23] heard of anything subsequently.

[54:25] Madame Verdun, do you know

[54:27] anything beyond that?

[54:29] >> No. What they do is they

[54:32] discuss what with the council

[54:33] and explain what is the -- of

[54:36] the city and they make personal

[54:40] also interview with each of

[54:42] them, but they will not have,

[54:44] you know, other reports or

[54:45] something like that.

[54:52] >> I don't know exactly how far

[54:54] I can go in this but they did

[54:56] not seem to think that there was

[54:59] anything terribly critical going

[55:01] on in Pointe-Claire. That's why

[55:03] there is no report forthcoming.

[55:05] >> Because there are seven, they

[55:07] can do any, you know, -- the

[55:11] City can ask somebody from

[55:13] outside, you know? From the

[55:16] minister. So, if already they

[55:17] don't want to work with you,

[55:18] Mister Mayor, can you start

[55:23] doing a party, another party, so

[55:26] the next election, people know

[55:27] who is really going to be

[55:28] working for the citizen and not

[55:31] work for somebody else?

[55:33] >> Well, that's one

[55:35] interpretation, mister El-Dabee.

[55:36] Everybody up your has been

[55:37] elected independently and we

[55:38] don't have parties in

[55:41] Pointe-Claire, as of yet. So,

[55:43] everybody has been elected

[55:44] legitimately, as an individual

[55:46] councillor in each district. You

[55:48] know, one strategy to, sort of

[55:51] need to have Councillors comply

[55:53] with a mayor's to have, you

[55:55] could have a party or a slate.

[55:58] That's another option. A slate

[55:59] is not quite a party but it's a

[56:00] group of councillors that agree

[56:02] with the same objectives, as a

[56:05] mayoral candidate and that may

[56:06] be a possibility next election,

[56:08] absolutely. That's one option.

[56:11] But I mean, everybody is up here

[56:12] to act independently and are

[56:14] entitled to do so. They're

[56:17] elected for their own reasons

[56:18] and their own districts, so they

[56:20] can perform as they choose and

[56:22] have done so. If that answers

[56:25] your question.

[56:26] >> Yeah because I hope, really,

[56:28] God bless you all to work all

[56:30] together for the benefit of the

[56:32] citizens of Pointe-Claire. But

[56:35] really, -- built the city and

[56:37] all the industrial park. So,

[56:42] please, try to work together for

[56:45] the citizens need because we

[56:47] elected you all to work for the

[56:50] citizens. Thank you.

[56:51] >> Thank you, Mister El-Dabee.

[57:01] Philippe Pare?

[57:04] >> Good afternoon. First off,

[57:07] for 16.3, --

[57:10] >> Get a little higher. Seeing

[57:12] that out.

[57:13] >> For 16.3, thank you very much

[57:15] for finally giving us a safer

[57:17] way across Highway 40. Our

[57:21] current tree Highway 20

[57:22] underpasses of always been

[57:23] wonderful to use. My question,

[57:26] though, is why must the council

[57:28] meeting agenda be so scripted

[57:30] about the position of the

[57:33] crossway that I had to go to the

[57:34] S E A O government website in

[57:37] order the 500 page document?

[57:40] >> Well, that is a very good

[57:43] question. And I, myself, concur

[57:45] with you. I think we are little

[57:48] cryptic in how our agendas are

[57:49] written and I think we can be

[57:50] more informative. That would be

[57:54] my conclusion as well. As for

[57:56] the overpass, we aren't there

[57:57] yet. We're in deliberation.

[57:59] >> I know, it's -- favourably

[58:01] on. I mean, --

[58:02] >> Well if everything works and

[58:03] the funding -- all the ducks

[58:04] follow in order and stuff, but

[58:06] yes, north, south, anything

[58:08] overpass pedestrian and cyclist,

[58:10] north, south, is desperately

[58:12] wanted and needed on the part of

[58:13] the city. It is, of course,

[58:15] always a question of cost. But

[58:17] yes, the underpasses are always

[58:18] the walkways and under the 20

[58:20] are wonderful and we have what

[58:21] exists is good, and we can

[58:23] always use more. We were on the

[58:28] FCM conference in Calgary, had

[58:30] walkways everywhere. I was just

[58:32] so jealous. And they're covered

[58:34] walkways. So in the winter, it's

[58:36] incredibly pedestrian friendly

[58:37] how people can move around and I

[58:39] was extremely jealous.

[58:42] >> Perfect, in fact, can I ask a

[58:43] second question?

[58:44] >> One more, absolutely.

[58:45] >> My second question, again, if

[58:47] it's voted favourably on

[58:48] everything goes agreed to plan,

[58:49] will 16.3 be eventually

[58:52] connected to the bike path on

[58:54] such field and Aurora to

[58:55] basically allowed north, south

[58:56] straight from the village, the

[58:58] train station, all the way to

[58:59] the REM?

[59:00] >> That's a good question. Does

[59:01] it lineup, Madame Verdun? It

[59:04] does, right? Yes.

[59:05] >> Most of the roads, half of

[59:06] the road's bike path, half is,

[59:09] good luck.

[59:11] >> Yeah, it could be worse to,

[59:13] could be St. John's but yes, go

[59:15] ahead, Councillor Stainforth.

[59:16] >> So, there is a part of the

[59:18] bike path that has to be

[59:19] actively constructed. Right now,

[59:22] it ends near the man who are.

[59:24] So, between the men were and

[59:26] Alston, there is another section

[59:27] of bike path that has to be

[59:29] constructed.

[59:30] >> 16.1? It's a 16.1?

[59:32] >> No. That's actually Alston to

[59:35] still view. So, --

[59:38] >> That will extend beyond that.

[59:39] >> There's still a missing chunk

[59:41] there and that one is awaiting

[59:43] the finalization of the

[59:44] construction in the area. So,

[59:46] the one west construction which

[59:47] is still happening, behind that,

[59:50] there is a section of land

[59:52] that's owned by the City, which

[59:53] would be the continuation to

[59:56] join along the Hymus, behind

[59:58] manager, right up to Alston. And

[1:00:00] that also joins with if you're

[1:00:02] on Alston, there is one-on-one

[1:00:05] Alston is a park space that we

[1:00:06] have. There's a bicycle path

[1:00:08] goes through there and into

[1:00:10] Greenwich, and then that would

[1:00:12] also be continued to meet up

[1:00:14] with the other section going

[1:00:16] through Greenwich.

[1:00:17] >> Please have proper, you know,

[1:00:19] signage when it's all done,

[1:00:20] please.

[1:00:21] >> Okay, thank you, Mister

[1:00:24] Perry. Joanna zoo?

[1:00:32] >> Good evening. My question

[1:00:35] will be regarding the bike lane

[1:00:38] between still ville and Alston.

[1:00:41] Councillor Tremblay came to our

[1:00:43] neighbourhood to give us an

[1:00:45] update of few times and he

[1:00:47] encouraged me to come here to

[1:00:48] ask questions because I live in

[1:00:52] with -- my deck is right facing

[1:00:55] the future bike lane. I didn't

[1:00:58] measure the distance. I think

[1:01:00] it's within 50 metres. It's

[1:01:02] very, very close to our houses.

[1:01:05] I spoke to a few neighbours in

[1:01:08] our block and we are all very

[1:01:12] concerned, as this gentleman

[1:01:14] brought up earlier, about the

[1:01:17] potential safety and privacy

[1:01:20] issues. Also during the

[1:01:22] construction, it might, you

[1:01:24] know, cause inconvenience to our

[1:01:26] lives for noises, the dust, and

[1:01:30] I work from home every day, so

[1:01:32] I'm not sure during those

[1:01:35] months, with construction so

[1:01:37] close to my house, will I be

[1:01:39] able to keep working? I have

[1:01:42] video calls every day we. Also,

[1:01:45] there I know there will be

[1:01:47] vegetation being cut or trimmed.

[1:01:50] There is a line of trees between

[1:01:54] Terrence van go and bone a, and

[1:01:56] the future bike lane. But if the

[1:01:59] trees are cut and there's a

[1:02:01] hedge in front of my deck, if

[1:02:03] it's removed, my deck will be

[1:02:06] completely exposed to the lane.

[1:02:10] I don't know what the City will

[1:02:12] do if that is the case. Also,

[1:02:15] according to Councillor

[1:02:17] Tremblay, sounds like it's

[1:02:19] already a done deal, this

[1:02:20] project. But it seems like, in

[1:02:23] our neighbourhood, most of us

[1:02:24] only knew about it since last

[1:02:26] month and were very surprised.

[1:02:28] So, I would like to know if we

[1:02:30] have a say in this, for having a

[1:02:33] bike lane and pedestrian road

[1:02:35] going through our backyard.

[1:02:37] >> Well, it shouldn't come as a

[1:02:39] surprise. We were told last

[1:02:41] meeting how long it's been in

[1:02:42] the works. It has certainly been

[1:02:46] well known that there is been

[1:02:48] plans for that project for very

[1:02:50] long time. It's actually

[1:02:53] probably finally coming to

[1:02:55] fruition. So, I definitely don't

[1:02:57] think it should come as a

[1:02:59] surprise. It is a priority

[1:03:03] because it is a bike path. As

[1:03:06] far as construction noise or

[1:03:09] disruption, it's a bike path.

[1:03:11] It's not a highway, it's not a

[1:03:13] building. So, I don't think it

[1:03:14] will be as cumbersome or as

[1:03:19] awkward as many other parts of

[1:03:20] the city. As for the trees,

[1:03:24] well, the City has prioritize

[1:03:27] protecting all of the trees as

[1:03:29] best it can because it's part of

[1:03:31] the concept of what we're doing

[1:03:32] there. So, I can't see too many

[1:03:34] being cut down, that's for sure.

[1:03:37] >> In front of my deck, there is

[1:03:39] no trees. There's just a hedge.

[1:03:41] I don't know if it will be kept.

[1:03:42] >> We aren't cutting your hedge

[1:03:44] down. If it's your hedge, it

[1:03:46] should be okay, I suspect.

[1:03:47] >> It belongs to the other side.

[1:03:51] >> Oh, who knows? Who knows what

[1:03:54] the plans are, I would have to

[1:03:56] speak to the people in charge

[1:03:57] but I think it's a priority not

[1:04:01] to remove foliage or a tree

[1:04:03] canopy, for sure. It is, in

[1:04:05] fact, going to be a linear park

[1:04:07] so the objective is not to cut

[1:04:08] anything down. Perhaps there

[1:04:11] would be more foliage, as

[1:04:14] opposed to less, overtime.

[1:04:15] >> So I can expect it will be

[1:04:17] kept still?

[1:04:18] >> Yes and it'll be patrolled,

[1:04:19] and it will be lit. So I think,

[1:04:23] security -- I think it'll be a

[1:04:25] safe area. I don't foresee any

[1:04:27] problems.

[1:04:28] >> Okay and how do I expect the

[1:04:29] construction noise to be during

[1:04:31] those months?

[1:04:32] >> I can't predict the future

[1:04:34] but I suspect it will be the

[1:04:36] construction of a bike path, as

[1:04:37] it's normally done, they will be

[1:04:39] working during the day and not

[1:04:40] during the night, and it would

[1:04:41] be probably a form of asphalt Ng

[1:04:45] or, you know, gravel and

[1:04:48] asphalt, and it'll move fairly

[1:04:50] quickly. They've done other bike

[1:04:51] paths quite quickly, so it's not

[1:04:53] like a road, it's much, much,

[1:04:56] much quicker, the process. Did

[1:04:57] you want to speak, Councillor

[1:04:58] Tremblay?

[1:04:59] >> Yes, Mister Mayor, Joanna,

[1:05:00] thanks for coming to the meeting

[1:05:02] today. So, we've had a chance to

[1:05:03] speak about the project on a

[1:05:04] couple of occasions. I've spoken

[1:05:06] to the folks out on Brigadoon as

[1:05:09] well and try to keep everybody

[1:05:10] as abreast of the developments

[1:05:12] going there. So, with regards to

[1:05:14] the hedge that Miss issue is

[1:05:18] speaking about, Madame Verdun,

[1:05:21] it's a hedge that is directly

[1:05:22] behind her property, behind --

[1:05:26] it's behind the fence, so it's

[1:05:27] on Pointe-Claire property, as it

[1:05:29] were. So, that is something that

[1:05:30] I'm sure we are prepared to look

[1:05:32] at. Now, I don't want to steal

[1:05:35] any thunder from Madame Verdun

[1:05:38] who will be able to speak to you

[1:05:40] about the process going forward.

[1:05:42] So, I'm not going to mention to

[1:05:45] you the advantages that you will

[1:05:47] have in the coming days to learn

[1:05:48] more about the project. But as

[1:05:50] the mayor explained, the idea

[1:05:54] behind the linear park is to

[1:05:56] allow people to find a peaceful,

[1:05:59] serene way of getting around

[1:06:01] town, whether on bicycle or on

[1:06:04] by foot. Blended in with the

[1:06:07] concept of a linear park. So

[1:06:09] that as Mr. Perry mentioned

[1:06:12] earlier, the hope is that we can

[1:06:13] connect all these different

[1:06:15] segments that involves the

[1:06:17] bicycle path system that we have

[1:06:19] in the city so that it's easy

[1:06:20] for people to get along. I would

[1:06:23] love to tell you that there will

[1:06:24] be absolutely no discs -- no

[1:06:26] noise whatsoever, the docible

[1:06:28] numbers will be down to zero but

[1:06:29] there will be some construction

[1:06:30] noise inevitable because we need

[1:06:31] to do some of the work in order

[1:06:33] to install it. But as we've done

[1:06:36] on occasion, not on occasion, on

[1:06:38] every occasion where we've

[1:06:40] either dug up a street or

[1:06:42] implemented a new program, what

[1:06:43] we do is make sure that the

[1:06:46] residents in the area are well

[1:06:47] informed of what might happen

[1:06:49] and how that's going to, the

[1:06:51] process that will take place.

[1:06:52] So, maybe I will just leave it

[1:06:54] to Madame Verdun to explain the

[1:06:56] next steps, assuming we all vote

[1:06:59] this through.

[1:07:00] >> Yeah, if the city council

[1:07:03] votes to award a contract

[1:07:04] tonight, the residents behind,

[1:07:08] you know, the bike path will

[1:07:10] receive a next day little, you

[1:07:12] know, communication to have an

[1:07:13] information session probably

[1:07:15] next week, so you can ask all

[1:07:16] your technical, you know,

[1:07:19] questions and all, you know, the

[1:07:21] information that we need. We

[1:07:23] will take notes of the comments

[1:07:25] of the citizens --

[1:07:26] >> Okay, thanks.

[1:07:27] >> Thank you.

[1:07:28] >> Sorry, if I might just add.

[1:07:30] That process also is there to

[1:07:32] allow us to make some tweaks,

[1:07:35] some changes to the project to

[1:07:36] make sure that it fits in

[1:07:38] nicely? So, we do spend time

[1:07:40] listening. I mean, we're not

[1:07:42] redoing the project. The project

[1:07:44] will be undertaken as passed, if

[1:07:48] passed tonight. But it is an

[1:07:50] opportunity for us to make any

[1:07:51] kinds of adjustments to that a

[1:07:53] realistic.

[1:07:54] >> Thank you.

[1:07:56] >> Rod knew we?

[1:08:07] Newham.

[1:08:08] >> Thank you, good evening, as

[1:08:10] everyone. As the president of

[1:08:13] the terrace van go syndicate, my

[1:08:15] main concern with the linear

[1:08:17] park which I know has been

[1:08:20] ongoing since 2015 with the

[1:08:23] residents of Brigadoon, I've got

[1:08:26] a couple of just really serious

[1:08:30] concerns with regards,

[1:08:31] especially to with regards to

[1:08:33] the foliage with the trees. They

[1:08:36] are very large, mature trees on

[1:08:39] that path. Rather, you know, if

[1:08:42] they have to be cut down, I

[1:08:44] really would like to think that

[1:08:47] perhaps they could just be

[1:08:49] cutback because regardless, even

[1:08:51] if you took down four or five of

[1:08:53] those trees and planted 15 or 20

[1:08:58] new trees in their place, the

[1:09:01] new trees that are planted are

[1:09:03] about this size in diameter.

[1:09:05] They take 25 years to grow. You

[1:09:09] know, again, for the residents

[1:09:13] of terrace van go, we are

[1:09:16] concerned notwithstanding the

[1:09:17] fact that, you know, there is

[1:09:19] been mention that the path will

[1:09:21] be patrolled. I'm not sure, I

[1:09:26] mean, I will believe it when I

[1:09:27] see it. With regards to

[1:09:30] patrolling, I don't see too much

[1:09:32] patrolling going on now, even on

[1:09:33] our street which is a private

[1:09:37] street. I take for granted that

[1:09:41] City, that Council will vote

[1:09:44] tonight and I believe that's,

[1:09:46] because when I read 16.1, if I'm

[1:09:50] not mistaken, it says award of

[1:09:54] contract. Now, does that mean

[1:09:56] that this is a fait accompli? Or

[1:09:59] are we going to actually vote on

[1:10:01] whether you aware the contract

[1:10:02] or not? We

[1:10:03] >> Are about to vote as to

[1:10:05] whether we're going to.

[1:10:06] >> Okay, that's very good. Well,

[1:10:08] thank you.

[1:10:09] >> And just in response,

[1:10:10] Councillor Tremblay and I walked

[1:10:13] back a couple years ago, so I

[1:10:15] know exactly what you're talking

[1:10:17] about. There's some tremendous

[1:10:18] trees along there and the beauty

[1:10:20] of a bike path is that you can

[1:10:22] you have some, flexibility as to

[1:10:25] what you can preserve and what

[1:10:26] has to be cut. So, because there

[1:10:29] are huge. So, the utmost care

[1:10:31] will be taken. I mean, it is a

[1:10:32] linear parts of the utmost care

[1:10:34] will be taken to preserve

[1:10:35] everything along the route to

[1:10:38] make it, as beautiful as

[1:10:39] possible and you are absolutely

[1:10:41] right. Cutting down an old

[1:10:42] growth tree, I see this in CCU

[1:10:47] meetings all the time, trees get

[1:10:48] cut down. Well, they never

[1:10:51] replace what was there. They

[1:10:53] don't and people think that, a

[1:10:55] well, we take one down, we put

[1:10:56] another one there, that doesn't

[1:10:58] work. It doesn't even come close

[1:11:00] and we have to be really careful

[1:11:02] about that.

[1:11:03] >> One last question because I

[1:11:05] think I was allowed to have to,

[1:11:07] one last question. Given the

[1:11:09] fact that cyclists do ride, I'm

[1:11:13] an avid cyclist, myself. They do

[1:11:15] ride in the winter. I mean, I

[1:11:17] work in the bicycle industry.

[1:11:20] Fat bikes are very popular. Will

[1:11:23] this path be kept open in the

[1:11:25] winter as well?

[1:11:26] >> These are good questions and

[1:11:28] I will let Madame Verdun speak

[1:11:30] to that in a second. It's how

[1:11:31] they're constructed that has a

[1:11:33] bearing on that, so that the

[1:11:34] runoff, so they don't become,

[1:11:37] that's why, you know, we've

[1:11:38] shied away from plowing a lot of

[1:11:40] bike pets because they are

[1:11:42] slippery and they can be

[1:11:43] hazardous because it depends on

[1:11:44] your drainage, really how

[1:11:46] they're built and constructed.

[1:11:48] That may have some bearing. I

[1:11:49] mean, you're right, the fat

[1:11:51] bikes are the future and people

[1:11:53] are going to be cycling in the

[1:11:55] winter. We are going to have to

[1:11:56] approach that topic and I think

[1:11:57] that will, that has some bearing

[1:12:01] on how the bill by path so that

[1:12:02] they dream properly but I will

[1:12:03] let Madame Verdun speak to that.

[1:12:06] >> I think you answered pretty

[1:12:07] well the question.

[1:12:08] >> Okay, are we building it in

[1:12:11] anticipation? Are we building a

[1:12:12] drainage or runoff so that it

[1:12:14] will be accessible in the

[1:12:15] winter?

[1:12:16] >> The new one, we're building

[1:12:17] with drainage what we have to

[1:12:18] connect, you know, the whole one

[1:12:19] with a new one so it will kind

[1:12:20] of be complicated for, you know,

[1:12:23] to clean one side and then the

[1:12:25] other side but we are working on

[1:12:26] a project eventually to try to

[1:12:28] open the bike path.

[1:12:29] >> Thank you very much.

[1:12:30] >> You're very welcome.

[1:12:31] >> Mister Mayor, many say

[1:12:33] something?

[1:12:34] >> Absolutely.

[1:12:35] >> To address your concern about

[1:12:36] trees, just to the linear park

[1:12:38] doesn't mean the path is a

[1:12:39] straight line.

[1:12:40] >> I would imagine it's --

[1:12:42] >> It meanders in places to

[1:12:44] avoid trees and there's another

[1:12:46] special feature which is this

[1:12:47] little footbridge. The only

[1:12:49] reason the footbridge is there

[1:12:50] is so that they don't have to

[1:12:51] dig the damaged routes that are

[1:12:53] going to probably kill the tree

[1:12:54] lovers, so a lot of effort has

[1:12:56] been taken.

[1:13:00] >> Trying to illustrate the

[1:13:02] point that it's a top priority.

[1:13:05] >> Susan Weaver?

[1:13:14] >> Okay, so speaking at past

[1:13:20] council meetings, you are

[1:13:21] talking about a public

[1:13:22] consultation for Fairview

[1:13:24] forest. I was wondering what the

[1:13:26] consultation would look like.

[1:13:27] Would it be about zoning? We've

[1:13:29] already had those consultations.

[1:13:32] Is that about City ownership

[1:13:34] unless it's gifted? The city

[1:13:36] would have to expropriate, then

[1:13:38] the City has a duty to ask all

[1:13:41] citizens if they would agree to

[1:13:43] purchase a land by holding a

[1:13:45] referendum. Expropriation would

[1:13:48] still be costly, even with the

[1:13:50] new changes to the expropriation

[1:13:52] Act and still, no guarantee. I

[1:13:55] think it would be a waste of

[1:13:56] time and money to hold a public

[1:13:58] consultation now if it is not

[1:14:00] public land, but privately

[1:14:02] owned. And if the owner is not

[1:14:04] at the table. So, what would the

[1:14:06] consultation be about?

[1:14:08] >> Okay, that's your question,

[1:14:10] Miss Weaver? The consultation

[1:14:12] would be largely about privately

[1:14:15] owned green spaces in an urban

[1:14:18] setting. It can include Fairview

[1:14:20] forest, it can include the ATM

[1:14:22] lands, Ponner Woods, it could

[1:14:24] include golf courses,

[1:14:25] Beaconsfield golf course. It's

[1:14:27] an extensive concern that's been

[1:14:29] broached in all kinds of cities

[1:14:30] now and people are consulting, I

[1:14:33] mean, the Rosemère golf course

[1:14:35] is a huge issue right now. These

[1:14:37] are very much considerations for

[1:14:39] cities and there is nothing

[1:14:40] unique about it. We simply, as a

[1:14:42] city, have to do our share to

[1:14:44] consider these things because it

[1:14:45] is the future. Bill 39 has

[1:14:48] changed how green spaces are

[1:14:50] perceived and how they can be

[1:14:51] dealt with in the future. We

[1:14:53] have to interpret all of these

[1:14:55] things in a way that will best

[1:14:56] protect the future of our world,

[1:14:59] our environment, and how healthy

[1:15:02] we can live into the future and

[1:15:03] green spaces are crucial. Any

[1:15:06] city should consider them

[1:15:07] responsibly in their public

[1:15:09] consultation, public

[1:15:10] participation process.

[1:15:11] >> So this is, in general, not

[1:15:12] just about one place, a private

[1:15:14] places?

[1:15:15] >> Well, that's one of the

[1:15:16] proposals. We haven't even

[1:15:17] devised it yet and I'm pushing

[1:15:19] to have that happen. But yes, I

[1:15:22] think that it would be ideally a

[1:15:26] more general discussion of green

[1:15:28] spaces in general.

[1:15:37] But, you know --

[1:15:40] >> Yes, so I've heard.

[1:15:41] >> But there's not a lot of

[1:15:43] people that --

[1:15:44] >> Miss Weaver, are you asking a

[1:15:45] question? Because I was just

[1:15:46] trying to answer. I'm not sure.

[1:15:49] Okay. The consultation itself

[1:15:57] will be whatever is devised by

[1:15:59] the professionals, and it will

[1:16:01] be fair and objective. It's not

[1:16:03] me that advises it, and it

[1:16:06] should probably be as democratic

[1:16:08] process as possible, and involve

[1:16:11] peoples perception of the future

[1:16:12] of their city, and I'd love to

[1:16:13] see it happen. And I'm going to

[1:16:15] push to have it happen, and I

[1:16:17] think it's the only responsible

[1:16:18] thing to do, if that answers

[1:16:20] your question. And now, do you

[1:16:22] have a subsequent question, Miss

[1:16:23] Weaver? Because that's a couple

[1:16:26] there.

[1:16:27] >> You're going to have to

[1:16:28] mention expropriation. Okay, my

[1:16:31] second question is when will the

[1:16:33] supermarket have the go ahead to

[1:16:34] build where Canada Post is?

[1:16:37] >> Good question. Not a

[1:16:41] volatile, do we have a

[1:16:45] high-timeline for the

[1:16:46] supermarket?

[1:16:47] >> No, we don't have any

[1:16:48] timeline.

[1:16:49] >> Eric, did you want to --

[1:16:56] Richard des Roseraies? Richard.

[1:17:13] - Charles Desrochers

[1:17:14] Pointe-Claire.

[1:17:15] [Speaking French]

[1:17:18] Mais je me félicite, ça fait à

[1:17:19] peu près 50 ans que je viens aux

[1:17:22] réunions du conseil de ville.

[1:17:24] Quand je suis venu la première

[1:17:25] fois, c'est lui qui était

[1:17:27] gérant.

[1:17:30] - Il était gérant de la ville.

[1:17:33] La greffière, c'était

[1:17:35] mademoiselle Monique Trudeau. Je

[1:17:39] vous dis ça, parce que ça a

[1:17:43] commencé avec le 309. Je peux

[1:17:49] dire que je suis encore

[1:17:51] (inaudible)

[1:17:56] en 1900 Socrate huit. J'ai été

[1:18:01] membre fondateur qui a été

[1:18:04] incorporé en 1986. Je peux

[1:18:07] confirmer ce que monsieur

[1:18:08] Cousineau dit. En 87, justement,

[1:18:10] c'est là que le comité le

[1:18:11] citoyen a commencé à parler du

[1:18:15] patrimoine du village.

[1:18:18] D'ailleurs, monsieur Claude

[1:18:19] Arseneault était sur le côté.

[1:18:21] J'ai été aussi membre des

[1:18:23] commerçants, ce qui fait que je

[1:18:24] suis pas mal au courant, j'ai

[1:18:26] été décidant de Pointe-Claire,

[1:18:28] je suis pas mal au courant de

[1:18:29] comment ça fonctionne à la

[1:18:33] Ville. C'est plus compliqué

[1:18:35] maintenant, je peux vous dire,

[1:18:36] que c'était avant, avec les

[1:18:37] règlements.

[1:18:38] [Speaking French]

[1:18:39] Donc, au 309 au bord du lac,

[1:18:42] aujourd'hui, j'ai vu... c'est le

[1:18:46] restaurant, ça a fait par tient

[1:18:47] à la famille pectoraux.

[1:18:53] - Au sujet de loups?

[1:18:56] - J'ai vu qu'il y a un permis de

[1:18:59] construction qui est là, il n'y

[1:19:00] a pas rien d'écrit. Je vois

[1:19:02] qu'il y a des travaux qui sont

[1:19:04] faits dans ce local-là. Je vois

[1:19:07] qu'il y a une terrasse qui a été

[1:19:09] construite, je ne vois pas de

[1:19:10] permis de terrasse, Pascal

[1:19:12] intéresse il faut dire que il

[1:19:13] faut payer. Ça, sur le permis,

[1:19:16] c'était écrit 309. La, c'était

[1:19:22] avant au 309, il y en a eu,

[1:19:24] c'était sur le sujet, c'est sur

[1:19:26] ça que j'ai vu venir, c'était

[1:19:27] occupe assurons Mexx. C'est un

[1:19:31] magasin commercial qui est

[1:19:32] devenu le restera. Selon, moi le

[1:19:36] Bilboquet, c'était des deux.

[1:19:38] Avec ça, il est venu, justement,

[1:19:41] pour 2022. Ça a été voté dans le

[1:19:44] bloc du jour de procéder, mais

[1:19:45] le procès-verbal dans pas mal

[1:19:46] plus que l'ordre du jour, dans

[1:19:47] le procès-verbal, c'est que, à

[1:19:48] cause du stationnement,

[1:19:49] justement le propriétaire de la

[1:19:50] bâtisse devait avoir une entente

[1:19:51] avec la Ville de Pointe-Claire

[1:19:52] dans un rayon de 200 mètres.

[1:19:53] [Speaking French]

[1:20:07] [Speaking French]

[1:20:08] [Speaking French]

[1:20:09] Ça, c'est nouveau, ça n'existait

[1:20:11] pas avant. C'est pour ça que je

[1:20:12] vous dis que je me souviens,

[1:20:17] 21,88.

[1:20:18] (inaudible)

[1:20:20] Tout ça pour dire... je ne sais

[1:20:23] pas si cette entente a été

[1:20:25] signée, parce que je me serais

[1:20:27] attendu à ce que la ville vote

[1:20:30] là-dessus. Je n'ai pas rien vu.

[1:20:34] Ce n'est pas ma question, parce

[1:20:36] que j'ai d'autres questions. Ce

[1:20:37] qui arrive, c'est que là, le

[1:20:39] Bilboquet, ce que je comprends,

[1:20:41] le permis est au 309, c'est le

[1:20:44] restaurant. Le Bilboquet, c'est

[1:20:46] aider. Restaurants, mais deux.

[1:20:49] Là on est au stationnement. Le

[1:20:51] Bilboquet, c'était la crème

[1:20:53] glacée avant, c'était en

[1:20:54] comptoirs. Là, si le 309 dans

[1:20:59] tes rénovations ou la terrasse,

[1:21:01] ça grandit, ça augmente le

[1:21:04] nombre de places. Donc, je

[1:21:07] reviens au mois d'août 2022.

[1:21:10] L'entente... et le supposé avoir

[1:21:11] une entente avec la Ville de

[1:21:14] Pointe-Claire et là si ça

[1:21:16] augmente le nombre de places il

[1:21:17] faudrait que Hill y ait une

[1:21:18] nouvelle entente.

[1:21:19] [Speaking French]

[1:21:20] De ce que je vois, il n'y a

[1:21:21] rien. Il y a un permis pour

[1:21:24] construire et là, à ce

[1:21:25] moment-là, on m'avait dit que la

[1:21:33] famille était du stationnement

[1:21:34] du côté sud de la rue golfe.

[1:21:38] (---)

[1:21:39] [Speaking French]

[1:21:47] (problème technique)

[1:22:39] - Vous comprendrez que je n'ai

[1:22:41] pas l'information exacte, à ce

[1:22:43] niveau, -là alors c'est sûr que

[1:22:45] s'il y a des constructions et

[1:22:47] des permis qui sont, donner la

[1:22:49] réglementation doit être

[1:22:50] respectée. Ça n'allait pas, il y

[1:22:51] aura des inspections qui seront

[1:22:53] faites. Et il y aura des

[1:22:59] actions...

[1:23:00] - Quoi ce n'est pas fait? Vous

[1:23:01] allez voter? Vous ne savez pas?

[1:23:02] Comment le conseil peut voter.

[1:23:04] Voici ma question. Je vais aller

[1:23:06] aux six rues du Golfe. Je

[1:23:10] regarde le règlement de

[1:23:13] zonage... pouvez-vous

[1:23:14] m'expliquer la privation qu'il y

[1:23:16] a là? Moi, je n'ai pas vu ça

[1:23:17] dans la procédure. Comment vous

[1:23:22] pouvez voter sur quelque chose

[1:23:23] que vous me dites que vous ne

[1:23:24] savez pas. Si vous vous ne le

[1:23:26] savait, pas comment les

[1:23:27] conseillers peuvent être au

[1:23:28] courant de la situation et voter

[1:23:30] sur un projet

[1:23:33] (inaudible)

[1:23:34] ?

[1:23:35] - Vous m'avez posé une question

[1:23:36] sur le 309. Je vous demanderais

[1:23:38] de baisser le, tombe s'il vous

[1:23:40] plaît.

[1:23:41] - Vous m'avez répondu que vous

[1:23:42] ne le saviez pas. Ma deuxième

[1:23:43] question c'est comment le

[1:23:44] conseil de ville peut voter sur

[1:23:45] un projet

[1:23:50] (inaudible)

[1:23:51] ? Le savez-vous ou pas? Le

[1:23:53] conseil de ville le? C'est où le

[1:23:55] savez-vous?

[1:23:56] - Je vais vous répéter la

[1:23:57] question: présentement, il n'y a

[1:23:59] aucun vote qui est fait sur le

[1:24:01] 309. Comment vous pouvez voter

[1:24:03] si vous ne savez pas ce qui

[1:24:04] arrive avec le 309?

[1:24:18] Est-ce qu'il y a eu une entente?

[1:24:20] - Oui, il y en a eu une.

[1:24:22] - Si vous me permettez, je vais

[1:24:24] juste compléter la réponse. Ce

[1:24:26] genre d'entente-là, c'est des

[1:24:30] exigences que la Ville a selon

[1:24:31] son règlement...

[1:24:51] - Alors, il y a un acte notarié

[1:24:52] qui devra suivre éventuellement.

[1:24:56] La Ville intervient dans ce

[1:24:58] genre d'entente-là. Ce

[1:24:59] mentionner, on l'a fait par le

[1:25:01] passé, la Ville intervient. On

[1:25:03] n'est pas nécessairement une

[1:25:05] partie à l'entente, mais on

[1:25:07] intervient pour témoigner et

[1:25:08] pour reconnaître que les

[1:25:10] citoyens ont rencontré leurs

[1:25:12] exigences. Alors, ça peut

[1:25:14] compléter la réponse de madame

[1:25:15] Verdon.

[1:25:19] - Ce n'est pas, ça ma question.

[1:25:20] Est-ce que l'entente 2022 est

[1:25:22] signée? Je ne parle pas de

[1:25:24] maintenant, je parle de 2022!

[1:25:26] - L'entente pour le

[1:25:29] stationnement?

[1:25:31] - L'urbanisme le dit, parce que

[1:25:33] le procès verbal est différent,

[1:25:35] en passant, il est différent de

[1:25:38] l'ordre du jour. C'est là qu'on

[1:25:40] fait mention du menteur d'une

[1:25:42] servitude à faire. Vous me dites

[1:25:44] que ça va être assigné. Elle me

[1:25:45] dit ça, mais je ne parle pas de

[1:25:47] maintenant, je parle de août

[1:25:50] 2022. Si ça n'a pas été signé...

[1:25:53] premièrement, et s'il faut

[1:25:54] changer l'entente, il y a

[1:25:55] quelque chose qui se vote par

[1:25:57] rapport à ça sur le terrain. Le

[1:26:00] Sud du golf ça va avoir rapport

[1:26:02] au terrain de Westmount. Ça va

[1:26:08] passer ou... c'est ça! Êtes-vous

[1:26:12] au courant de ce sur quoi vous

[1:26:13] votez?

[1:26:14] - Je n'étais pas d'accord avec

[1:26:15] la décision de séparer le

[1:26:20] stationnement devant. Pour moi,

[1:26:22] c'est trop loin. Ça ne

[1:26:23] fonctionne pas. Dans le village,

[1:26:25] le nouveau système va dire que

[1:26:27] vous pouvez vous stationner à

[1:26:29] une autre place plus loin si ce

[1:26:31] n'est pas devant la business, ce

[1:26:32] n'est pas du parking. Alors, ça

[1:26:34] ne fonctionne pas. On a un

[1:26:36] nouveau système avec lequel je

[1:26:38] ne suis pas d'accord ou il y a

[1:26:40] des gens qui pensent qu'on peut

[1:26:43] donner le stationnement à une

[1:26:45] autre partie du visage pour...

[1:26:51] on ne fonctionne pas. Il y a des

[1:26:53] jeunes crus de socialement. À

[1:26:55] l'époque, quand on a décidé ça,

[1:26:58] il y avait un stationnement à

[1:27:00] l'arrière qui était à vendre

[1:27:03] pour la maison. Qu'est-ce qui se

[1:27:05] passe? On a une crise de

[1:27:07] stationnement dans le village,

[1:27:08] on ne peut pas rendre ça comme

[1:27:11] présidence juste derrière.

[1:27:13] Finalement, le propriétaire l'a

[1:27:17] acheté et avec raison. C'est de

[1:27:20] l'autre côté de la rue.

[1:27:38] (problème technique)

[1:27:39] Il y a la trace qui a été

[1:27:43] fabriquée... alors, je comprends

[1:27:47] bien ce que vous expliquez.

[1:27:49] - Deuxième question. Là, ça

[1:27:53] avait rapport au golf. Le

[1:27:58] PPCMOI, c'est du charabia. Je me

[1:28:02] demande s'il n'y a une partie de

[1:28:05] journée, je pense que le

[1:28:06] gouvernement du Québec avait

[1:28:07] empêché le spotte de zonage. La

[1:28:09] raison, c'était pour éviter

[1:28:10] qu'il y a des avantages indu

[1:28:12] d'une personne a une autre et si

[1:28:15] ce n'est pas du zone... je ne

[1:28:19] sais pas, selon vous, est-ce que

[1:28:20] le conseil de ville, est-ce que

[1:28:21] c'est légal de faire du zonage?

[1:28:25] Quand on parle du charabia qu'il

[1:28:26] y a là, constructions que vous

[1:28:29] allez ajouter... à ce qu'il y a

[1:28:31] autre chose qu'il y aura dans le

[1:28:33] procès-verbal? C'est ça, ma

[1:28:34] question.

[1:28:35] - Je ne suis pas d'accord avec

[1:28:38] ça. Je ne peux pas parler pour

[1:28:40] le conseil, mais pour moi...

[1:28:42] - L'avocate de la Ville,

[1:28:43] qu'est-ce qu'elle pense de ça?

[1:28:45] - Ce n'est pas la ville qui

[1:28:46] décide, c'est le conseil qui

[1:28:47] décide.

[1:28:48] - Est-ce que c'est légal?

[1:28:49] - Ça le gala, oui. Si on vote

[1:28:51] ça, ça légal.

[1:28:53] (rires)

[1:28:55] Merci!

[1:29:28] I got a letter in the mail,

[1:29:31] because my house is being

[1:29:32] renovated. It was sold, and

[1:29:34] being renovated. Also what I

[1:29:36] want to do is find out what the

[1:29:38] exact renovations are.

[1:29:46] If something like that happens.

[1:29:50] I don't want to cause a problem

[1:29:51] for the new owner. But I

[1:29:53] certainly don't want something

[1:29:54] in my bedroom window.

[1:30:19] They did send me an email with a

[1:30:21] plan, but first off, it's tiny.

[1:30:54] >> I called the number on here.

[1:30:57] And they were very polite, very

[1:31:01] helpful, I guess. They told me I

[1:31:03] had to come here tonight.

[1:31:16] It's said to come here tonight

[1:31:23] And they did suddenly a copy of

[1:31:24] the plans, and they said the

[1:31:26] extension is marked in red. I

[1:31:28] have it on my phone.

[1:31:44] I just like to know what's

[1:31:46] happening. Because this is right

[1:31:48] next to my house.

[1:32:04] I don't think is a proper way

[1:32:07] for the citizens to be dealt.

[1:32:09] With

[1:32:30] You ask questions, you received

[1:32:32] the plan. Do you reach out

[1:32:34] against you have more

[1:32:36] information?

[1:33:20] You may be losing something from

[1:33:23] your house. It's why they come

[1:33:26] to the city council to express

[1:33:27] your concern during the project.

[1:33:31] But you receive the plan and you

[1:33:33] can ask the urban planning

[1:33:34] department and address a concern

[1:33:36] there and see if you can answer

[1:33:38] or not. So probably the question

[1:33:40] you have, it cannot answer.

[1:33:43] >> I just want someone to

[1:33:44] explain the plan so there's not

[1:33:45] a window right here looking in

[1:33:47] my bedroom. My bedroom window

[1:33:49] faces that property. I don't

[1:33:50] want somebody looking in my

[1:33:52] bedroom window.

[1:33:54] >> Okay, but I don't have the

[1:33:55] plan of your house now.

[1:33:56] >> But you need the layout of

[1:33:58] the house.

[1:33:59] >> So who do I go see?

[1:34:01] >> You should go to Planning.

[1:34:03] >> I was told to come here.

[1:34:04] >> What you should do is try and

[1:34:07] find that.

[1:34:09] >> Just to clarify, what he's

[1:34:11] talking about is item 17.1 of

[1:34:13] the agenda, is considered a

[1:34:14] minor exemption request to

[1:34:16] consider your property at 155.

[1:34:17] So that's what he was told to

[1:34:18] come here, to address the minor

[1:34:20] exemption.

[1:34:35] >> If we could do it another

[1:34:36] day, I'm fine. Est-ce que

[1:34:37] quelqu'un peut l'expliquer au

[1:34:38] monsieur? I don't need to do it

[1:34:39] tonight.

[1:34:40] >> They are voting the minor

[1:34:41] exemption tonight.

[1:34:42] >> Oka. So my vote is no until

[1:34:44] you explain it till me.

[1:34:51] >> The minor exemption with her,

[1:34:52] so she can explain to you. I can

[1:34:55] tell you the nature of the minor

[1:34:57] exemption. So it's to permit an

[1:34:59] extension with the funds setback

[1:35:02] of 10.74 metres rather than the

[1:35:05] minimum required of 12 metres.

[1:35:08] And the secondary setback of

[1:35:12] 6.13 metres, rather than the

[1:35:14] minimum required of 7.5 metres.

[1:35:18] >> I have that information here.

[1:35:21] >> I want to see a plan, so I

[1:35:22] can tell if there is going to be

[1:35:23] a window in my bedroom.

[1:35:29] >> We are not voting.

[1:35:30] >> I have no say in what's built

[1:35:32] next to my house?

[1:35:33] >> We don't know yet what's

[1:35:34] going to be built at this stage.

[1:35:38] 17.4, yes.

[1:35:39] >> You sent me plans, or someone

[1:35:42] sent me a plan. There is no

[1:35:46] numbers, ten point 74 metres or

[1:35:48] six point 13 metres. Anywhere on

[1:35:50] the plan. There's lots of blue

[1:35:53] lines that are not part of the

[1:35:55] original house.

[1:35:57] >> If we don't have minor

[1:36:00] exemptions, if we don't have

[1:36:03] anything under the minor

[1:36:05] exemptions about windows, it's

[1:36:07] because the window is

[1:36:08] complaining with the byline

[1:36:09] place. So unfortunately, we know

[1:36:11] the neighbour doesn't have a say

[1:36:13] about the project, if it's

[1:36:15] complaining by the bylaw.

[1:36:17] >> What are all the blue lines

[1:36:18] on the drive? That's new

[1:36:20] construction, is it not?

[1:36:22] >> We'd have to look at it. But

[1:36:26] potentially, it could be. It's

[1:36:29] okay, it's not our job, really,

[1:36:31] to be doing this now.

[1:36:33] >> They told me to come here.

[1:36:35] >> Okay, but that's for the

[1:36:37] exemption, as Councillor pointed

[1:36:38] out. But that's not for the

[1:36:40] specific plan of the home. Now,

[1:36:43] for, meet the understanding of

[1:36:44] the specific plan of the home,

[1:36:45] you should have access to at

[1:36:47] some point. So could you --

[1:36:49] >> I just got word of this last

[1:36:51] week. I'm on my holidays now.

[1:36:53] >> So I would recommend that you

[1:36:54] write and try and access to get

[1:36:57] more information and keep us

[1:36:58] posted as to your successes in

[1:37:00] this regard.

[1:37:01] >> And then if the minor

[1:37:02] exemption goes through, I'm out

[1:37:03] of luck?

[1:37:04] >> The minor exemption, they

[1:37:05] have no bearing on those blue

[1:37:07] lines. We don't really know.

[1:37:09] >> Mister Mayor, we have the

[1:37:11] space at 17.4. And this is an

[1:37:14] extension in the front of the

[1:37:16] house.

[1:37:17] >> Okay, but what about the

[1:37:18] double garage and the neck on

[1:37:20] the back and there's something

[1:37:21] by the front door. Those lines

[1:37:23] all over the place.

[1:37:27] >> Are you on the right or the

[1:37:29] left?

[1:37:30] >> I'm behind it. It's on the

[1:37:31] corner of Lakeshore and land

[1:37:34] stone gardens. I'm on Lansdowne.

[1:37:38] I would've gladly come to the

[1:37:40] office, had someone explained it

[1:37:41] to me. And probably walked away,

[1:37:43] thanks. But at this point, I'm

[1:37:46] --

[1:37:47] >> I can see this as being an

[1:37:49] optimal way with dealing with

[1:37:51] this. I suggest that we should

[1:37:54] find a better way of dealing

[1:37:55] with this. And you need more

[1:37:57] information on, as I suggested.

[1:37:59] So I would write to try and

[1:38:02] glean more information as to

[1:38:03] what is in your impending

[1:38:05] future, and continue to do so

[1:38:07] and alert us if you've not been

[1:38:10] given the information.

[1:38:11] >> This guy wants to build next

[1:38:13] week. He's got a beam in the

[1:38:16] backyard, and I hope he can. I

[1:38:18] really do. But he's got a beam

[1:38:20] in the backyard that's 25 feet

[1:38:21] long, and --

[1:38:23] >> We'll, sir, I don't know, how

[1:38:26] should we proceed going forward?

[1:38:27] I don't think this is the

[1:38:29] appropriate forum for what we

[1:38:31] are doing right now. We are into

[1:38:32] the specifics of a house plan,

[1:38:35] which none of us have seen and

[1:38:37] isn't in front of us. I don't

[1:38:38] really think this is the place

[1:38:39] for it. Not that you're at any

[1:38:41] fault here, I just feel that --

[1:38:46] not in front of us right now, so

[1:38:47] that we can answer the

[1:38:49] gentlemen.

[1:38:53] >> How many windows are they're

[1:38:55] currently at the back of the

[1:38:56] house? It's just because I have

[1:38:57] a plan, but I don't know what it

[1:38:59] looks like before or where your

[1:39:00] house is situated.

[1:39:02] >> My house, there's only one

[1:39:04] window facing that house. It's

[1:39:06] my bedroom. I'm not really

[1:39:09] concerned about specifically

[1:39:11] that, it's the fact that

[1:39:12] something is going to be changed

[1:39:13] their. I just want to know

[1:39:14] what's going on.

[1:39:15] >> Mister Mayor, may I comment?

[1:39:17] I think the reason that you are

[1:39:19] told to hear us at Council,

[1:39:22] because there's a minor

[1:39:23] exemption. So what is out of the

[1:39:24] ordinary here is the setbacks. A

[1:39:26] member of the pack committee, so

[1:39:27] we review those with Councillor

[1:39:30] Cohen. So we are here for the

[1:39:31] minor exemption, so we reviewed

[1:39:32] the file, we said maybe it's a

[1:39:36] justification, might be a corner

[1:39:37] lot or whatever else. But

[1:39:39] everything else that has to do

[1:39:40] with the project and forming of

[1:39:43] bylaws. So we don't really look

[1:39:44] at where our window is. We are

[1:39:47] conscious of having an 80-foot

[1:39:49] window staring in to the bedroom

[1:39:51] and the bathroom, but that you

[1:39:52] can definitely either reach out

[1:39:53] to your council or go to urban

[1:39:55] planning and say I would like to

[1:39:56] see their plans.

[1:39:57] >> Why didn't last week when I

[1:39:59] calls?

[1:40:01] >> I fully doubt that. The fact

[1:40:02] that they told you to come here,

[1:40:03] there was obviously -- they

[1:40:05] should've told you to come here.

[1:40:06] They told you to come here to

[1:40:07] address the minor exemption. But

[1:40:09] they should have given you the

[1:40:10] information you required when

[1:40:11] you are there. I think that's

[1:40:13] where you have to go, because

[1:40:14] none of us can answer that

[1:40:15] question here right now.

[1:40:19] >> That's pretty much what I was

[1:40:20] saying to. It would probably be

[1:40:23] your best to re-attempt to

[1:40:25] contact urban planning. Get more

[1:40:27] information.

[1:40:28] >> So I came in here for nothing

[1:40:30] today?

[1:40:31] >> You've learned some

[1:40:32] information, and so have we.

[1:40:33] >> But I was here when I made

[1:40:34] the call. It could've gone to

[1:40:35] urban planning than.

[1:40:38] >> I apologize. Let's get to the

[1:40:41] bottom of it, I apologize. I

[1:40:44] sense that there has been

[1:40:46] potentially some

[1:40:47] miscommunication here. And we

[1:40:49] will try to deal with that

[1:40:50] moving forward.

[1:40:51] >> It's been education, thank

[1:40:53] you. Can I just say one other

[1:40:54] little thing?

[1:40:57] >> Okay. Sorry, your subsequent

[1:41:00] question, sir?

[1:41:02] >> They're talking about voting

[1:41:03] on it tonight.

[1:41:04] >> It will be voted on tonight,

[1:41:07] depending on --

[1:41:08] >> He is talking about this --

[1:41:11] >> We can meet with you after to

[1:41:13] explain, so that you didn't make

[1:41:14] your trip for nothing. We can

[1:41:15] meet with you to just confirm

[1:41:17] what they had said about the

[1:41:18] windows.

[1:41:19] >> My other little question is

[1:41:20] there's a number of houses that

[1:41:21] are vacant in our area, they've

[1:41:23] been sold. That people have been

[1:41:25] taking them over, I don't know

[1:41:26] if they're waiting on permits or

[1:41:27] what. But the cross is this

[1:41:29] long. Is there not something the

[1:41:31] city can do about that? 1:55

[1:41:37] Lakeshore's -- public security.

[1:41:42] >> We have a bylaw.

[1:41:46] >> But nobody does anything

[1:41:47] about it.

[1:41:49] >> They will send somebody.

[1:41:53] >> That has worked in the past,

[1:41:54] Mr. Michael.

[1:42:05] >> Good evening. What's being

[1:42:07] done about the funeral home that

[1:42:10] burned to the ground, if it's

[1:42:13] still standing, and obese, or

[1:42:15] why is it still standing?

[1:42:16] >> That's a very good question.

[1:42:18] That's caught in an insurance

[1:42:20] quagmire. And we don't own it,

[1:42:23] and the whole economics of that

[1:42:25] settlement and the

[1:42:26] reconstruction of that building

[1:42:27] is based on insurance. And we

[1:42:30] are waiting on the insurance

[1:42:31] company's decision as to how

[1:42:32] that will move forward.

[1:42:34] >> Will they can sit on their

[1:42:36] hands for three or four years

[1:42:37] and it's going to be staying

[1:42:38] there all that time.

[1:42:39] >> Well, I hope not. Because it

[1:42:41] certainly -- it's not in their

[1:42:43] interest to do so. It will

[1:42:44] dilapidated and collapse and

[1:42:46] cost more. I don't understand

[1:42:47] specifically why it's taking so

[1:42:49] long. Do we have any news on

[1:42:51] that? Any update on that one??

[1:42:53] >> We are working to issuing the

[1:42:56] permits. It's because the owner,

[1:43:00] the company is in the USA. It's

[1:43:04] quite complicated to receive all

[1:43:05] the payment and all of the

[1:43:07] signatures that we need. But we

[1:43:08] are working pretty hard to

[1:43:10] ensure that permit very soon.

[1:43:13] >> Thank you. One last question.

[1:43:15] What are we going to do the

[1:43:17] white path between proper can

[1:43:20] and will stand? Are you waiting

[1:43:22] until the construction has

[1:43:25] finished? That's a continuation.

[1:43:30] >> Yes, I believe so, yes.

[1:43:32] That's exactly it.

[1:43:35] >> So, when?

[1:43:36] >> When the construction is

[1:43:39] finished. I can't give you an

[1:43:42] exact date, I'm not building it.

[1:43:44] >> So when Cartier west one is

[1:43:46] done, it will happen? Thank you.

[1:43:57] - Période des questions. >> Yes?

[1:44:01] Okay. Clara Freeman and Mark --

[1:44:11] okay. Do we have time? How are

[1:44:17] we doing, timewise?

[1:44:21] >> I will be quick as well.

[1:44:22] >> Five minutes? Okay.

[1:44:24] >> Good evening, Clara, from an

[1:44:26] owner of 16 golf. I just wanted

[1:44:28] to bring a project that I'm

[1:44:29] looking at to your attention,

[1:44:32] especially to the Councillors

[1:44:33] who sit on the P.A.C.. I

[1:44:35] actually submitted on the 10th

[1:44:37] of May, ready from at least my

[1:44:41] impression, which was almost two

[1:44:42] months ago, a proposal to

[1:44:45] reconvert 16 Gulf into a duplex.

[1:44:48] It was a duplex a number of

[1:44:50] years ago, there are obviously

[1:44:52] deeds to go along with this. 16

[1:44:55] golf sits under you create.

[1:44:58] Again, I'm requesting a

[1:45:00] reconversion. I think, and

[1:45:01] obviously was very timely today

[1:45:03] with all of the points that were

[1:45:05] coming up about the obvious

[1:45:07] housing crisis that we have. And

[1:45:08] really trying to create

[1:45:10] reasonably sized multi

[1:45:12] residential units. It's

[1:45:14] something, like I said, that I

[1:45:16] have submitted. And I'm hoping

[1:45:18] to get your favourable

[1:45:20] consideration on that. Just

[1:45:21] maybe one other quick point, in

[1:45:24] new pH, there are 11 properties

[1:45:28] four of which are already

[1:45:29] duplexes. And again, the bottom

[1:45:31] line is I'm requesting a

[1:45:33] reconversion, and as soon as we

[1:45:34] can do that I was really happy

[1:45:35] to hear that you're pushing hard

[1:45:37] to get permits out as quickly as

[1:45:39] possible. It's -- it makes a

[1:45:41] huge difference on how quickly

[1:45:42] the city can move. I think it

[1:45:44] comes up time and time again in

[1:45:46] Québec as well, that obviously

[1:45:47] development is much slowed down,

[1:45:49] based on all of the hurdles we

[1:45:50] have to go through. I understand

[1:45:52] it, I appreciate it, I think we

[1:45:54] need to do it in a thoughtful

[1:45:56] manner. But we do need to

[1:45:57] expedite these things. If there

[1:45:59] was a question to go along with

[1:46:00] this, I'm hoping for your

[1:46:03] support on this. I don't know if

[1:46:04] this is something, obviously,

[1:46:06] that you can speak to tonight.

[1:46:09] But I understand it husk you go

[1:46:11] to peace see first.

[1:46:13] >> That's correct, but just

[1:46:14] personally, I'm a huge fan of

[1:46:17] duplexes. And if it was already

[1:46:18] zoned, I can't see they're being

[1:46:20] -- I can't speak too much in

[1:46:22] advance, but I think in the

[1:46:24] village it's optimal. It's now

[1:46:28] fully residential? There's no

[1:46:30] commercial in? It

[1:46:31] >> Is correct, no.

[1:46:33] >> I think things bode well, but

[1:46:35] I can't decide for myself

[1:46:37] personally. I can tell you that

[1:46:38] that is a desirable outcome for

[1:46:41] that zoning, in my opinion. And

[1:46:44] buddy else?

[1:46:46] >> Just, I'll be careful what I

[1:46:48] say. But it's going to the

[1:46:51] process right now. I can't say

[1:46:54] if I've seen it or not seen it

[1:46:55] but I think it is going through

[1:46:56] the process. Sorry for the

[1:46:59] delay, there's just the time. As

[1:47:04] mayor Thomas said, accessible

[1:47:07] dwelling units, conversions in

[1:47:08] last weeks, that's part of the

[1:47:10] future that we have to address.

[1:47:11] >> Awesome, super. Thank you

[1:47:13] much.

[1:47:14] >> Thank you. Mark?

[1:47:23] >> Good evening, my names Mark,

[1:47:28] I'm terrace where. I guess I'm

[1:47:35] remiss, I haven't done my due

[1:47:36] diligence. I only found out

[1:47:37] about this on Friday. Like the

[1:47:42] gentlemen there, I came back

[1:47:43] from the country in order to

[1:47:44] attend this meeting. I have a

[1:47:46] question, and based on that

[1:47:47] question, maybe I could be done

[1:47:50] and that I will just discuss

[1:47:51] this with the other gentleman

[1:47:52] that was in the other tariffs.

[1:47:54] Can anyone hear me all right?

[1:47:58] There are setbacks on all

[1:48:00] properties, and there are two

[1:48:02] terraces on Hymus, on Monday and

[1:48:05] then go, have property there.

[1:48:09] And then there's about six or

[1:48:11] seven homes on Aberdeen or

[1:48:13] brigantine, rather, that have

[1:48:14] setbacks also and properties.

[1:48:17] Now, where is this lineal path

[1:48:19] going to be running exactly?

[1:48:22] Between those properties?

[1:48:24] Because they've got seven or

[1:48:25] eight private backyards that

[1:48:26] have been there since the early

[1:48:28] 80s when those buildings were

[1:48:29] built, and then you've got 24

[1:48:34] patios in the back of the town

[1:48:36] houses that are on the other

[1:48:38] side, the north side of

[1:48:40] brigantine. So, how wide is this

[1:48:43] path going to be?

[1:48:44] >> It's going to be all of the

[1:48:46] city's property.

[1:48:47] >> All on City property?

[1:48:49] >> It's our property line, and

[1:48:51] we will be building a park on

[1:48:55] our property.

[1:48:57] >> Okay, what about the privacy?

[1:48:59] What are you going to do, not

[1:49:01] necessarily for privacy on the

[1:49:02] homes on Raggedy Ann, because

[1:49:04] they've got mature trees. But

[1:49:09] the town homes have pride yoke.

[1:49:12] 400 square foot patios that are

[1:49:16] elevated above the garage

[1:49:18] underneath the homes. They don't

[1:49:19] have mature vegetation, because

[1:49:23] those homes are only 10 to 15

[1:49:25] years old. It is a fence going

[1:49:27] to be put up for privacy?

[1:49:29] >> I believe so. That is my

[1:49:32] under standing. Am I wrong on

[1:49:35] that?

[1:49:37] >> We don't have fans on the

[1:49:39] north side of Brigadoon. Because

[1:49:44] we have an agreement back in

[1:49:47] 2017.

[1:49:49] - Ne l'oubliez pas, passe qu'on

[1:49:50] a les fenêtres au, le deuxième

[1:49:51] étage, ce sont tous de chambre.

[1:49:52] There are all rooms up there.

[1:49:53] You've got to be able to give

[1:49:54] them privacy, to. Because we go

[1:49:56] on the patios, I'm not arguing

[1:49:58] for myself, because I'm in one

[1:50:01] of the side town houses. But I'm

[1:50:03] talking about the people that

[1:50:04] are on the back, and we have 24

[1:50:06] town houses there. And their

[1:50:10] privacy is going to be

[1:50:11] inhibited, unless this lineal

[1:50:14] parkway is on property. And

[1:50:18] constructed in a way that the

[1:50:20] sound does not affect the people

[1:50:22] whose kitchens and two upstairs

[1:50:26] bedrooms face to the backyard.

[1:50:29] That's oil like to say.

[1:50:31] >> It is a bike path. And it's

[1:50:34] on City property, so it's --

[1:50:38] we've seen them all over the

[1:50:40] place. They're not huge areas of

[1:50:41] noise. They don't tend to be

[1:50:44] sources of --

[1:50:45] >> They don't make noise

[1:50:47] themselves, but the people that

[1:50:48] use that may.

[1:50:49] >> But they don't tend to use

[1:50:50] them in a way that makes noise.

[1:50:51] They tend to be riding bicycles.

[1:50:53] >> But they may be riding

[1:50:55] bicycles, if their patrol,

[1:50:56] that's great. If there is a

[1:50:59] period of time when they can be

[1:51:00] used, and its police property,

[1:51:03] fantastic. Thank you very much,

[1:51:04] folks. Thank you for your job,

[1:51:06] folks. I know it's not an easy

[1:51:07] job, all the very best.

[1:51:08] >> Thank, you sir.

[1:51:23] Time is up, okay, time is up.

[1:51:38] >>

[1:51:39] 5.1 Notice of motion and

[1:51:43] filing of a draft By-law

[1:51:44] decreeing a long-term borrowing

[1:51:45] and capital expenditures in the

[1:51:46] amount of $ 4,075,000 for

[1:51:47] professional services and major

[1:51:48] municipal infrastructure works

[1:51:49] in various locations. This

[1:51:50] borrowing bylaw is to finance

[1:51:51] projects such as the repair of

[1:51:52] the sources highway and

[1:51:53] pedestrian overpasses. The

[1:51:54] professional services for the

[1:51:55] construction of an independent

[1:51:56] multi functional overpass, and

[1:51:58] for Highway 40, and a project

[1:52:00] related labour to municipal

[1:52:01] engineering. The amount to be

[1:52:03] financed will be reimbursed by a

[1:52:05] tax levy on the entire

[1:52:07] municipality based on the

[1:52:08] property value of taxable

[1:52:10] buildings over a 20 year period.

[1:52:11] >> Who gives this notice of

[1:52:13] motion?

[1:52:15] >> Eric, district seven. 5.2,

[1:52:22] juste pour vous avertir, je

[1:52:23] voulais en parler un peu...

[1:52:24] est-ce que c'est maintenant ou

[1:52:26] après?

[1:52:27] - C'est comme vous voulez. Je

[1:52:29] peux le décrire ou vous pouvez y

[1:52:31] aller maintenant, c'est comme

[1:52:32] vous le voulez.

[1:52:33] - O.K., Je vais commencer tout

[1:52:34] de suite avec le 5.2 dollar du

[1:52:41] jour de ce soir, la majorité du

[1:52:43] conseil sera maintenant

[1:52:45] introduite au règlement de

[1:52:48] contrôle intérimaire afin

[1:52:50] d'exclure un autre centre

[1:52:52] commercial de notre

[1:52:53] (inaudible)

[1:52:54] de développement. Cela permettra

[1:52:56] la construction d'une autre tour

[1:52:58] de condos dans le quartier

[1:53:00] (inaudible)

[1:53:01] près de ces zones. Je me pose à

[1:53:05] cet amendement. Je ne crois pas

[1:53:07] que nous devrions retirer

[1:53:09] d'autres propriétés tant que les

[1:53:12] consultations publiques et nos

[1:53:15] consultations du plan

[1:53:16] d'urbanisme ne sont pas

[1:53:17] terminées. Le processus de

[1:53:20] consultation publique ne peut

[1:53:22] pas être parfait et j'ai

[1:53:25] également des préoccupations

[1:53:26] quant à la manière dont il a été

[1:53:29] conçu et mis en oeuvre par

[1:53:33] l'administration, mais je

[1:53:34] continue à croire qu'il s'agit

[1:53:36] d'un processus essentiel. C'est

[1:53:38] le seul moyen dont nous

[1:53:40] disposons pour tenter d'informer

[1:53:43] user les règles du jeu. La

[1:53:47] grands promoteurs n'ont pas

[1:53:49] besoin de consultations

[1:53:51] publiques. Celui qui est retiré

[1:53:53] ce soir a pu négocier

[1:53:55] directement son retrait du RCI

[1:53:57] avec les membres du conseil et à

[1:54:00] organiser des personnes... des

[1:54:03] réunions sur son projet au

[1:54:06] Comité d'urbanisme. Au Code

[1:54:09] citoyens les plus ordinaires qui

[1:54:11] peuvent bénéficier des mêmes

[1:54:14] privilèges. Je pense que notre

[1:54:16] victoire peut commence à

[1:54:17] planifier son développement. Au

[1:54:20] cours des huit dernières années,

[1:54:22] notre planification urbaine a

[1:54:24] été décidé par et pour les

[1:54:29] promoteurs. Le modifications

[1:54:31] apportées à nos règlements sur

[1:54:32] le fait des personnes qui ont

[1:54:35] les meilleurs

[1:54:36] (inaudible)

[1:54:37] avec l'hôtel de ville et qui

[1:54:39] obtiennent ce qu'elles veulent

[1:54:41] au cas par cas. Il n'y a jamais

[1:54:44] eu de plan global qui tienne

[1:54:47] compte de nos besoins en matière

[1:54:49] de logement, la capacité de nous

[1:54:53] infrastructures ou de la qualité

[1:54:54] de vie de l'ensemble de notre

[1:54:58] communauté ou qui s'interroge

[1:55:00] sur l'ampleur du développement

[1:55:02] que nous souhaitons réellement.

[1:55:04] Nous pourrons tous constater les

[1:55:10] résultats. De 2017 à 2023,

[1:55:13] Pointe-Claire comptait

[1:55:14] (inaudible)

[1:55:15] du développement résidentiel de

[1:55:16] l'ouest de l'île, même si la

[1:55:19] population ne représente que 15%

[1:55:21] de celle de l'ouest de l'île.

[1:55:24] Pourtant, cette, année nous

[1:55:25] avons commencé avec la

[1:55:28] croissance la plus rapide des

[1:55:29] loyers annoncés dans tout le

[1:55:31] pays, soit 26%. Nous pouvons

[1:55:35] tous constater l'pression

[1:55:39] exercée sur nos infrastructures,

[1:55:42] qu'elle s'agisse de la

[1:55:43] circulation, de l'eau et de la

[1:55:48] pression de l'autre le 18, ou

[1:55:49] des frais d'électricité. Nous

[1:55:54] pouvons aussi voir des quartiers

[1:55:55] qui n'ont pas respecté nos

[1:55:57] programmes déménagement et les

[1:56:03] promesses... comment préserver

[1:56:05] les espaces verts et les

[1:56:07] commerces au premier étage. Il

[1:56:09] faut que cela change. The public

[1:56:23] In order to take another

[1:56:25] commercial property out of our

[1:56:27] development freeze. This will

[1:56:29] allow for another high-rise

[1:56:31] project in the Hermitage

[1:56:33] neighbourhood of Saint-Jean. I

[1:56:35] oppose this amendment, I do

[1:56:37] believe we should be taking any

[1:56:38] more properties out of the RCI

[1:56:40] until public consultations, and

[1:56:41] the revisions of our plan have

[1:56:43] been completed. The public

[1:56:45] consultation process might not

[1:56:46] be perfect, and I also have

[1:56:48] issues with the way it has been

[1:56:50] designed and implemented. But I

[1:56:52] still feel the process to be an

[1:56:54] important one. It's the only way

[1:56:56] we have of trying to level the

[1:56:57] playing field. Developers don't

[1:56:59] need public consultations. The

[1:57:02] one being taken out tonight was

[1:57:03] able to freely negotiate the

[1:57:05] removal from the RCI with

[1:57:06] members of Council and have

[1:57:09] in-person meetings on this

[1:57:10] project with the Planning

[1:57:11] Advisory Committee. No ordinary

[1:57:14] citizen could expect to get the

[1:57:15] same privilege. I also

[1:57:59] Despite being only 15% of its

[1:58:02] population. Yet we began this

[1:58:04] year with the fastest-growing

[1:58:06] advertised rants in the entire

[1:58:08] country. 26%.

[1:58:17] (intervention en anglais)

[1:58:53] When the time is due in August

[1:58:55] or September. I believe it at

[1:58:57] that, I have a lot to say on

[1:58:58] this issue and a lot will be

[1:59:00] sent. So I will do that, thank.

[1:59:02] You

[1:59:03] >> Yes, I would just like to

[1:59:06] specifically speak to this

[1:59:08] process, this project, the

[1:59:10] notion of motion. Because we

[1:59:11] have been listening to the

[1:59:13] citizens, we have public

[1:59:14] consultations, we've had

[1:59:15] workshops, and there are many

[1:59:17] aspects in this -- for example,

[1:59:21] I think he may have left the

[1:59:23] father of

[1:59:30] This project has a grant to be

[1:59:31] able to allow that to happen.

[1:59:33] This project is going to favor

[1:59:36] some public green spaces, public

[1:59:38] access green spaces, have

[1:59:41] favoured green spaces

[1:59:56] With the affordability with the

[1:59:58] grant, it's guaranteed for 20

[2:00:01] years. 16 years, to have better

[2:00:05] rants that are available for the

[2:00:07] citizens of Pointe-Claire. The

[2:00:09] buildings are going to be

[2:00:10] accessible with fully accessible

[2:00:12] to units and additional ones can

[2:00:14] be requested if necessary. We

[2:00:15] talk about accessibility we.

[2:00:31] That is why we are moving

[2:00:33] forward, because it is tracking

[2:00:35] all the boxes that the citizens

[2:00:36] have told us.

[2:00:55] And this we feel is responding

[2:00:57] to the best needs of what

[2:00:59] citizens have told us. It's in

[2:01:02] parallel and in line with all we

[2:01:03] are doing to look at our

[2:01:04] planning bylaws, and it is an

[2:01:06] opportunity to get something

[2:01:07] more affordable that we've

[2:01:08] committed to and that people

[2:01:09] continue to ask us for. Point of

[2:01:12] order, I just want to share with

[2:01:14] you why the decision making is

[2:01:17] that we've moved forward with

[2:01:18] this project. So this is going

[2:01:20] in the direction that we have

[2:01:21] been informed in for the

[2:01:22] majority of the citizens that we

[2:01:24] represent.

[2:01:25] >> So, what the majority of the

[2:01:27] citizens that have told us in

[2:01:30] workshops it is open to

[2:01:32] interpretation.

[2:01:39] What we hope to have a coherent

[2:01:41] organize plan that reflects what

[2:01:43] the citizens have told us, and

[2:01:45] then we use that plan in its

[2:01:46] application to subsequent

[2:01:48] projects. One of the major

[2:01:53] concerns and the citizen's

[2:01:55] consultation process is that

[2:01:57] they were sought the missing

[2:01:59] middle and not high-rise multi

[2:02:00] level development. And that was

[2:02:02] clear in the reports, and yet

[2:02:04] this is a high-rise multi level

[2:02:05] development, which contradicts

[2:02:07] what the majority of the

[2:02:08] citizens in the process told us.

[2:02:10] So, we can interpret that anyway

[2:02:12] we want. But what I would like

[2:02:13] us to do, we'll but -- without

[2:02:34] I just like to say, I'd like to

[2:02:37] thank the councillor for

[2:02:39] clarifying this issue. And not

[2:02:42] making election pitch. Thank

[2:02:44] you.

[2:03:53] I would just like to add that up

[2:03:54] on percent of these rental

[2:03:57] dwellings, rental dwellings, not

[2:03:59] condos, rental dwellings are 15%

[2:04:03] below the average market rate of

[2:04:05] the area, as established by the

[2:04:08] Canadian house of mortgage

[2:04:09] Corporation. So they are giving

[2:04:11] money to the developer to

[2:04:13] subsidized the affordable

[2:04:15] housing on every one of these

[2:04:16] units. Meaning that every one of

[2:04:18] these units will be at least 15%

[2:04:20] below market rate of five and a

[2:04:22] half. Might be 10%. So they're

[2:04:26] actually five and a half for

[2:04:27] families here as well. So I

[2:04:29] approve this motion.

[2:04:31] >> It will be 12 to 13 storeys

[2:04:33] high. 5.3 counts.

[2:04:36] >> 5.3? Notice of motion and

[2:04:38] filing a draft bylaw considering

[2:04:40] the camp expenses of

[2:04:42] (interpreter)

[2:04:44] Council members and

[2:04:45] reimbursement procedures. 5.4

[2:04:46] Public consultation regarding a

[2:04:47] draft By-law amending the

[2:04:49] Construction

[2:04:56] >>

[2:04:57] It's a notice of motion.

[2:04:58] >> Who gives those -- who moves

[2:04:59] this notice of motion?

[2:05:10] 5.4 Assemblée publique de

[2:05:11] consultation concernant un

[2:05:12] projet de Règlement modifiant le

[2:05:13] règlement de construction

[2:05:14] PC-2786. Le projet de règlement

[2:05:15] ne contient aucune disposition

[2:05:16] propre à un règlement

[2:05:17] susceptible d'approbation

[2:05:18] référendaire. En guise de

[2:05:19] rappel, le règlement de

[2:05:22] construction étant plus exigeant

[2:05:23] que le Code de construction du

[2:05:25] Québec, il y a lieu de modifier

[2:05:27] notre Règlement de construction

[2:05:30] PC-2786 afin d'être d'une

[2:05:31] solution de rechange pour la

[2:05:33] construction d'un mur de

[2:05:35] séparation à l'intérieur d'un

[2:05:37] immeuble multi-tenant. Alors,

[2:05:38] les personnes présentes ce soir

[2:05:40] peuvent s'adresser au conseil

[2:05:42] pour ce règlement.

[2:06:05] 6.1 Accorder un soutien

[2:06:06] financier pour un montant total

[2:06:07] de 5000$ à l'association West

[2:06:08] Island Blues Festival. La vente

[2:06:10] des billets sera versé à des

[2:06:12] organismes à but non lucratif,

[2:06:14] la liste des organismes est la

[2:06:18] suivante: Association de la

[2:06:19] communauté noire de l'ouest de

[2:06:21] l'île, alphabétisation sans

[2:06:23] limite et arabo-va.

[2:07:03] 7.1 Déposer et approuver les

[2:07:04] procès-verbaux des réunions du

[2:07:05] comité de circulation du 9 avril

[2:07:06] 2024 et du 14 mai 2024.

[2:07:07] - Alors, pour 7.1?

[2:07:31] 7.3 Déposer le procès-verbal de

[2:07:32] la réunion du 5 juin 2024 du

[2:07:33] Comité consultatif jeunesse.

[2:07:42] 8.1 Autoriser la Ville à prêter

[2:07:43] de l'équipement et/ou des

[2:07:44] emplacements à divers organismes

[2:07:45] pour la tenue d'événements de

[2:07:46] levée de fonds sur le territoire

[2:07:47] de la Ville de Pointe-Claire. La

[2:07:49] ligue de ce Bowl masculin du 22

[2:07:52] au 25 août 2024 pour la levée de

[2:07:55] fonds de la Fondation afin de

[2:07:58] financer l'achat de...

[2:08:00] d'équipements médicales est un

[2:08:02] événement organisé par West

[2:08:05] Island LGBTQ2+ afin de

[2:08:07] promouvoir la diversité et

[2:08:09] l'inclusion.

[2:08:48] 10.1 Déposer la liste des

[2:08:49] amendements budgétaires et le

[2:08:50] registre des chèques pour la

[2:08:51] période du 27 mai 2024 au 20

[2:08:52] juin 2024.

[2:09:25] 10.3 Autoriser la fermeture ou

[2:09:26] le transfert de postes

[2:09:27] budgétaires associés à des

[2:09:28] réserves et des fonds de parcs

[2:09:29] et terrains de jeux pour

[2:09:30] lesquels les projets, travaux ou

[2:09:31] achats d'équipement sont

[2:09:32] complétés ou annulés. L'objectif

[2:09:35] est de permettre que ces sommes

[2:09:36] soient à nouveau disponibles

[2:09:37] pour des projets futurs pour la

[2:09:39] ville. De 10,1 à 10,3.

[2:10:00] 12.2 Approuver la liste des

[2:10:01] changements au personnel par

[2:10:02] décisions non déléguées au 2

[2:10:03] juillet 2024.

[2:10:34] 14.2 Approuver une modification

[2:10:35] au contrat intervenu avec

[2:10:36] ÉMONDAGE ET ABATTAGE DIONNE INC.

[2:10:37] , Pour des travaux

[2:10:38] d'arboriculture à proximité du

[2:10:39] réseau électrique, pour un

[2:10:40] montant de 9544,59$, taxes

[2:10:41] incluses. Les travaux ne

[2:10:46] représentent pas un danger pour

[2:10:47] le réseau de l'Hydro-Québec, ils

[2:10:49] doivent absolument être

[2:10:50] effectués pour minimiser les

[2:10:52] risques et assurer la sécurité

[2:10:53] des biens et des citoyens tout

[2:10:54] en minimisant les bris à la

[2:10:56] propriété privée, c'est-à-dire

[2:10:58] entrée charretière, aménagement,

[2:11:00] toi et Cornish.

[2:11:34] 15.1 Se prévaloir de l'option de

[2:11:35] renouvellement prévue au contrat

[2:11:36] intervenu avec CORPORATION

[2:11:37] KRYPTON SCIEN-TEK INC., Pour la

[2:11:38] période du 1 août 2024 au 31

[2:11:39] juillet 2025, au montant de

[2:11:40] 45856,63$, taxes incluses, pour

[2:11:41] le contrôle hebdomadaire de la

[2:11:42] qualité de l'eau pour les

[2:11:43] piscines du Centre Aquatique et

[2:11:44] du Centre Sportif.

[2:11:51] Le renouvellement de ce contrat

[2:11:53] servira l'optimisation de la

[2:11:54] filtration et de la qualité de

[2:11:55] l'eau des piscines.

[2:12:34] 15.3 Approuver une modification

[2:12:35] au contrat intervenu avec

[2:12:36] CONSTRUCTION CPB INC., Pour des

[2:12:37] travaux d'agrandissement et

[2:12:38] réaménagement des Travaux

[2:12:39] Publics, pour un montant de

[2:12:40] 224533,14$, taxes incluses. Ce

[2:12:45] montant comprend des

[2:12:46] modifications au cours de

[2:12:48] travaux, qui génèrent soit des

[2:12:49] dépenses non prévues ou des

[2:12:51] retraits d'items au bord de

[2:12:52] route pour des travaux non

[2:12:53] requis. Les travaux requis

[2:12:55] touche l'architecture, la

[2:12:56] mécanique, et la structure,

[2:12:57] l'ingénierie civile et

[2:12:59] l'électricité.

[2:13:20] Le calvaire qu'ils Jackets

[2:13:21] virgule quatre.

[2:13:53] 16.1 Octroyer un contrat pour la

[2:13:54] construction d'un sentier

[2:13:55] polyvalent entre les avenues

[2:13:56] Alston et Stillview

[2:13:57] (piste cyclable Brigadoon)

[2:13:58] , à LES ENTREPRISES VENTEC INC.,

[2:14:00] Pour un montant total de

[2:14:01] 1891056,49 $, taxes incluses.

[2:14:07] Dans le cadre du Programme

[2:14:08] d'aide financière au

[2:14:09] développement du transport actif

[2:14:11] dans le périmètre urbain, la

[2:14:12] Ville de Pointe-Claire est

[2:14:14] éprouvée pour une subvention de

[2:14:15] 715000 dollars pour ce projet

[2:14:17] spécifiquement. Ce chantier sera

[2:14:19] dans la compte unité de la

[2:14:20] piste, qui commence de l'avenue

[2:14:22] à Austin et c'était jusqu'à

[2:14:24] belle mort.

[2:15:04] 16.3 Octroyer un contrat pour

[2:15:05] des services professionnels pour

[2:15:06] des travaux de construction

[2:15:07] d'une passerelle

[2:15:08] multifonctionnelle pour piétons

[2:15:09] et cyclistes au-dessus de

[2:15:10] l'autoroute 40, à ARUP CANADA

[2:15:11] INC., Pour un montant total de

[2:15:12] 2214487,49$, taxes incluses.

[2:15:20] Pour accorder un contrat

[2:15:22] concernant les services

[2:15:23] professionnels pour des plans et

[2:15:24] devis pour une passerelle

[2:15:26] indépendante de mobilité active

[2:15:27] traversant l'autoroute 40 dans

[2:15:29] l'axe de la rue Halton, afin de

[2:15:31] faciliter l'accès à la future

[2:15:32] station suprême. Le contrat est

[2:15:35] divisé en plusieurs phases. La

[2:15:37] première étape consiste à

[2:15:38] élaborer différents scénarios

[2:15:41] conceptuelle, élaborer un

[2:15:42] échéancier d'élaboration selon

[2:15:44] un concept de choisie, ainsi que

[2:15:45] des estimations budgétaires de

[2:15:48] classes des. Le conseil pourra

[2:15:50] prendre la décision de

[2:15:51] poursuivre ou non le mandat

[2:15:53] suite à cette première phase,

[2:15:55] mais le contrat doit être

[2:15:57] octroyé dans son intégralité ce

[2:15:59] soir.

[2:16:04] - Pour 16 points trois?

[2:18:26] - Pour les mêmes raisons je n'ai

[2:18:27] pas besoin de les expliquer,

[2:18:29] mais je crois qu'on n'est pas

[2:18:30] prêt pour ça. Ça peut attendre.

[2:18:33] Il y a d'autres priorités. On

[2:18:36] n'est tout simplement pas prêt.

[2:18:38] On ne va pas appeler quelque

[2:18:40] chose qui vaut peut-être 20

[2:18:42] millions et quand la poussière

[2:18:44] va avoir retomber, ça va être 30

[2:18:46] millions. On n'a pas d'études à

[2:18:48] savoir combien de gens vont se

[2:18:51] servir. Moi aussi pour ces

[2:18:53] raisons, je vais voter contre.

[2:19:38] 16.5 Approuver une modification

[2:19:39] au contrat intervenu avec GROUPE

[2:19:40] LML LTÉE, pour le remplacement

[2:19:41] des coffrets d'éclairage sur le

[2:19:42] boulevard Saint-Jean, pour un

[2:19:43] montant de 1514,22 $, taxes

[2:19:44] incluses.

[2:19:55] La Ville demande à

[2:19:59] l'entrepreneur d'installer un

[2:20:01] système de mise à la terre, si

[2:20:03] j'de Malte pour la nouvelle

[2:20:05] base.

[2:20:43] 16.7 Approuver une modification

[2:20:44] au contrat intervenu avec LES

[2:20:45] ENTREPRISES VENTEC INC., Pour le

[2:20:47] remplacement de la bordure,

[2:20:48] réfection des sentiers et de

[2:20:49] l'escalier menant au sous-sol du

[2:20:50] chalet du terrain de Boulingrin,

[2:20:51] pour un montant de 11181,32$,

[2:20:53] taxes incluses. Le montant

[2:20:58] correspond au remplacement du

[2:21:00] système d'irrigation existant

[2:21:01] raison avec un conflit avec la

[2:21:06] bordure en béton.

[2:21:30] 16.9 Approuver une modification

[2:21:31] au contrat intervenu avec

[2:21:32] 9190-8673 QUÉBEC INC.

[2:21:33] (LES ENTREPRISES ROSENEIGE INC.)

[2:21:34] , Pour la réfection du terrain

[2:21:35] de tennis et de pickleball au

[2:21:36] parc Northview, pour un montant

[2:21:37] de 850,82$, taxes incluses. La

[2:21:43] modification est demandée afin

[2:21:44] de permettre la réalisation de

[2:21:46] travaux pluviaux sont

[2:21:48] contraintes. Il faudra battre

[2:21:49] les sommes qui sont en conflit

[2:21:51] avec la bordure pluviales.

[2:21:55] - Pour 16,6 à 16,9.

[2:22:35] 16.11 Approuver une entente à

[2:22:36] intervenir avec le Ministère des

[2:22:37] Transports et de la Mobilité

[2:22:38] durable concernant l'approbation

[2:22:39] de l'aide financière de 485 000

[2:22:40] $ reçue dans le cadre du

[2:22:41] « Programme d'aide financière au

[2:22:42] développement des transports

[2:22:43] actifs dans les périmètres

[2:22:44] urbains

[2:22:45] (TAPU)

[2:22:46] » pour le projet d'aménagement

[2:22:47] d'un corridor cyclable et d'un

[2:22:48] sentier piétonnier en zone

[2:22:49] scolaire sur l'avenue

[2:22:50] Winthrop entre le boulevard

[2:22:52] Hymus et l'avenue Jubilee

[2:22:53] Square.

[2:22:58] Le programme vise à intensifier

[2:23:00] la mise en place

[2:23:02] d'infrastructures et de services

[2:23:03] de transport qui favorise les

[2:23:05] actif au milieu urbain, et plus

[2:23:07] spécifiquement développé des

[2:23:08] réseau piétonnier et cyclable

[2:23:11] efficace concurrentielles et

[2:23:12] complémentaires afin d'améliorer

[2:23:13] la sécurité et la quiétude des

[2:23:15] piétons et des cyclistes.

[2:23:56] 16.13 Approuver une entente à

[2:23:57] intervenir avec Hydro-Québec

[2:23:58] concernant la contribution

[2:23:59] financière d'Hydro-Québec à la

[2:24:00] Ville dans le cadre de la

[2:24:01] réalisation du projet

[2:24:02] d'installation des bornes de

[2:24:03] recharge publiques.

[2:24:05] L'entente est pour le versement

[2:24:07] d'une contribution financière

[2:24:08] pour l'installation de bornes de

[2:24:10] recharge publiques. Le montant

[2:24:12] de la contribution accordée par

[2:24:13] Hydro-Québec ne pourra excéder

[2:24:15] le montant maximal de 12000

[2:24:17] dollars par vol de cinq ou 24000

[2:24:22] dollars par borne double.

[2:25:34] Les personnes présentes peuvent

[2:25:35] s'adresser au conseil concernant

[2:25:36] les items 17.1 à 17.3

[2:25:46] 17.1 Considérer une demande de

[2:25:47] dérogation mineure concernant la

[2:25:48] propriété située au 155, chemin

[2:25:49] du Bord-Du-Lac-Lakeshore. Pour

[2:25:51] permettre un agrandissement avec

[2:25:52] une marge avant de 10,74 mètres,

[2:25:55] plutôt que le minimum requis de

[2:25:56] 12 mètres et une marge avant

[2:25:58] secondaire de 6,13 mètres,

[2:26:00] plutôt que le minimum requis de

[2:26:01] 7,5 mètres.

[2:26:19] - 17,1 à 17,3.

[2:26:36] 17.4 Considérer les plans

[2:26:37] d'implantation et d'intégration

[2:26:38] architecturale relatifs à la

[2:26:39] propriété située au 155, chemin

[2:26:40] du Bord-du-LacLakeshore pour un

[2:26:42] agrandissement.

[2:26:52] 17.6 Considérer les plans

[2:26:53] d'implantation et d'intégration

[2:26:54] architecturale relatifs à la

[2:26:55] propriété située au 99, avenue

[2:26:58] Cedar concernant l'entrée

[2:27:00] charretière.

[2:27:11] 17.8 Considérer les plans

[2:27:12] d'implantation et d'intégration

[2:27:13] architecturale relatifs à la

[2:27:14] propriété située au 5, avenue

[2:27:16] Perrier pour un agrandissement.

[2:27:43] 17.10 Considérer les plans

[2:27:44] d'implantation et d'intégration

[2:27:45] architecturale relatifs à la

[2:27:46] propriété située au 12, avenue

[2:27:48] Salisbury concernant le

[2:27:51] modification des plans

[2:27:52] préalablement approuvés.

[2:28:04] 17,9 à 17,11.

[2:28:18] 17.12 Considérer une demande

[2:28:19] pour un projet particulier de

[2:28:20] construction, de modification ou

[2:28:21] d'occupation d'un immeuble

[2:28:22] (PPCMOI)

[2:28:23] au 6, avenue Golf autorisant un

[2:28:24] bâtiment à usage mixte dans la

[2:28:25] zone résidentielle Up8

[2:28:30] .

[2:30:04] 19. Il s'agit d'autoriser et

[2:30:06] d'approuver la demande à être

[2:30:08] présentée par le conseiller

[2:30:09] Brett Cowen, district huit, au

[2:30:12] directeur de l'état civil afin

[2:30:13] qu'ils puissent être désignés à

[2:30:15] titre de célébrant compétents

[2:30:17] pour célébrer des mariages ou

[2:30:19] des unions civiles sur le

[2:30:20] territoire de la Ville de

[2:30:21] Pointe-Claire pour la durée de

[2:30:22] son mandat.

[2:31:22] - Monsieur Bissonnette veut

[2:31:23] corriger quelque chose.

[2:32:02] - En, alors vous votez pour le

[2:32:04] refus?

2024-07-02 Conseil de Ville de Pointe Claire

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