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- Mesdames et Messieurs,
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bonsoir. Good evening, ladies
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and gentlemen. Bienvenue à la
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séance du conseil du mois de
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mars. Welcome to the march
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council meeting.
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We will begin with Councillor
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members, Council members
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reports, starting with
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Councillor Cowan.
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- Merci, Monsieur le Maire. Je
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me suis récemment préoccupée sur
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le fonctionnement de
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(---)
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. C'est assez important, puisque
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chaque année, la gros dépense
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les quelque 90 millions de
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dollars que nous, les citoyens
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de Pointe-Claire, nous envoyons.
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Il jette étonné par certaines
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des choses que j'ai apprises.
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When you read, you learn things.
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I read the law. It turns out the
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law requires our merit to brief
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Council on agribusiness in any
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agribusiness as is instructed to
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by Council at a public meeting.
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This has never happened in my
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two terms. It may not have
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happened for the 20 years of
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existence of the actual. So it
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certainly is not Mayor Thomas's
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fault, but now that we know how
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the law reads, this should
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change. I think it is in the law
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for in an important reason, that
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is to help balance the imbalance
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of power that exists with Agglo.
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J'ai également appris que le
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conseil serait finalisé avec le
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soutien de notre représentant
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là-bas, le maire Thomas. L'achat
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d'une église à Rosemont The
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(---)
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pour 2,5 millions de dollars. Il
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m'a frappé qu'une partie de cet
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argent pourrait être utilisé
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pour financer la restauration du
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vieux moulin. J'aimerais que le
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maire nous dise s'il a évoqué
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cette possibilité avant de voter
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en faveur de l'achat. Et pendant
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que je reste sur un sujet,
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j'aimerais féliciter la Société
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de sauvegarde du patrimoine de
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Pointe-Claire d'avoir finalement
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convaincu
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(---)
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de qu'inclure une
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(---)
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qui empêche gages la
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restauration nécessaire et
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assure l'accès au public. Entre
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ces deux acteurs, d'après, moi
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ils ont organisé le meilleur
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résultat possible. Bravo! From
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my deep dive into Agglo affairs,
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I was also surprised to learn
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that Mayor Thomas is on the
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Economic Committee. When you
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brief Council next month on what
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has been happening and what will
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happen at the Agglo, I think we
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would all like to know the
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committee's stance on the
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Fairview forest and in the
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context of the Bagot storm
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development freeze there, and
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built 39, what Pointe-Claire
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through Mayor Thomas Xin, a
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representative of the Agglo, has
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urged the environment committee
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(inaudible)
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. Finally at the November
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council meeting, this is Susan
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Weaver who asked Mayor Thomas
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about the car the city had
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provided him until his accident
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almost a year ago. She deposited
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documents that raised several
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discrepancies she had asked him
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about which he brushed off. I
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reviewed those documents and
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found Mrs. Weaver's concerns to
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be justified. I now deposit for
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the public record my email to
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mayor Thomas dated 16 January,
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where I shared my conclusions
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and my requests that he explain
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the discrepancies Mrs. Weaver
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reported last November, and
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state for the public record the
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extent to which he had declared
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personal use of the city car for
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income tax purposes. A simple
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request that two months later
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remains unanswered. So those are
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my opening remarks. Thank you
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very much.
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>> Councillor Cousineau?
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Councillor Stainforth?
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>> Good evening. I would just
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like to mention that the
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Pointe-Claire youth advisory
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board is looking for candidates.
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So, if you are between the age
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of 14 and 21, or if you know a
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young person between the age of
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14 and 21 that is interested in
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sharing their ideas,
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representing their community to
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help us organize at the city
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level and to make
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recommendations, please direct
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them towards the application.
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You can find it on our social
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media, on our web page and it is
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really
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(applause)
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I have really had a privilege of
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sharing this since the beginning
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of this board. The kids that I
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have met over the last seven
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years are really, really
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incredible human beings. I'm
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sure they are all going to turn
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out to be really incredible
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adults. So it is a great group
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of kids to work with. And so I
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just wanted to put that out
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there. That if you know
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somebody, please share that we
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are looking to construct our new
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board for 2025 - 2026. Thank
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you.
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>> Councillor Bissonnette?
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- Bonsoir. >> Good evening. It's
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good news finally after all
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these years. We are finally
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going to get lakeshore paved
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from
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(inaudible)
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. The borders, the sidewalk
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repair and
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(inaudible)
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it was supposed to be done a few
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years ago. Ça a été retardé,
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mais le contrat a été approuvé
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ce soir. La compagnie, c'est un
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contrat de 2 millions 532822. Ça
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va faire du bien. Ça fait
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longtemps que ça n'a pas été
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réparée.
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Merci à l'administration pour
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ça. Thank you.
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>> Councillor Homan?
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>> Good evening, everyone. Last
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week was spring break as
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everyone knows. I would like to
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thank administration for
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extending our snow park in
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Belmont sunnyside. I have only
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had wonderful, wonderful
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comments. I think it's going to
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have to become a yearly event
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for sure. It went very, very
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well. So thank you very much.
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That's all.
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>> Councillor Tremblay.
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Councillor Thorstad-Cullen.
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>> Good evening, everyone. Juste
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un petit avis que le demain, le
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2 mars, c'est la journée portes
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ouvertes pour
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(---)
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. Et tous nos partenaires, c'est
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vraiment important pour nous. Et
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alors, c'est demain à 111
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(---)
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, dans le village de Valois. De
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11 heures à 20 heures dans le
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soir. So just a reminder and a
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shout out for the open house for
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why it that is happening
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tomorrow at the site in that
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wall village. 111 Donegani. It
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is their open house today. So,
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if you can please drop by and
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support them. It is from 11 a.m.
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to eight PM on Wednesday March
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12th. Thank you
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In response to Councillor Cowan
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before we get started briefly,
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the missing documents for Mrs.
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Weaver was the accident. I have
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the police report. It was not at
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one in the morning, it was at
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7:50. I have the actual police
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report. And I do have a document
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signed by me specifying the car
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was to be used Pour des raisons
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familiales, domestiques.
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Personal, family and domestic.
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Personnelles, familiales, et
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domestiques. Those are the
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results of my searches so far.
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But the accident was indeed at
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7:50 in the morning as I
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specified. Mesdames et
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Messieurs, bonsoir. Good
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evening, ladies and gentlemen.,
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Bienvenue à la séance du conseil
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de mars. Welcome to the march
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council meeting. Encore cette
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année, la Ville a offert une
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multitude d'activités pour la
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semaine de la relâche. Nous
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espérons que vous avez profité
[8:30]
des différentes activités. Ou
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que cette semaine vous a permis
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de vous reposer et de passer de
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bons moments en famille. The
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city again offered a multitude
[8:41]
of activities for spring this
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year and spring break this year.
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We hope you enjoyed the various
[8:46]
effectivity's or that you were
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able to take time to rest and
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spend quality time with your
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family. La journée est national
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du droit des femmes, le samedi
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le 8 mars marque la Journée
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internationale du droit des
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femmes. En 2025, cette journée
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est d'autant plus particulière,
[9:06]
puisque nous soulignons la 85e
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anniversaire du droit de vote
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des femmes au Québec. C'est une
[9:13]
occasion de souligner tout le
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chemin parcouru, de saluer le
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travail accompli vers l'égalité,
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et de poursuivre les efforts
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afin d'évaluer vers une société
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toujours plus juste et
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inclusive. Saturday March 8th
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marked International Women's
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Day. In 2025, this day is all
[9:37]
the more special as we celebrate
[9:38]
the 85th anniversary of the
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women's right to vote in Québec.
[9:42]
This is an opportunity to
[9:43]
underscore how far we have come,
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to salute the progress we have
[9:46]
made towards equality, and to
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continue our efforts to become
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an ever fairer and more
[9:51]
inclusive society. Le 2 mars
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dernier, le gouvernement fédéral
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a tenu, au centre nautique de la
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Baie de Valois, les événements
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de remise de la médaille du
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couronnement du roi Charles III.
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Lors de cet événement, ce sont
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plus de 12 résidents et
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résidentes de Pointe-Claire qui
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ont été reconnus pour leur
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contribution importante. Leur
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engagement illustre bien le
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sentiment de communauté que nous
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avons à Pointe-Claire. Monsieur
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(---)
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a reçu la médaille en
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reconnaissance de ces 40 années
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de bénévolat au sein de l'unité
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de sauvetage volontaire de
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Pointe-Claire. Depuis quatre
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décennies, monsieur Marc jouent
[10:38]
un rôle essentiel dans la
[10:41]
sécurité de notre communauté.
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Son engagement illustre
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parfaitement les valeurs de
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solidarité et d'entraide qui
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font la force de l'unité de
[10:50]
sauvetage. Nous adressons nos
[10:53]
plus sincères remerciements à
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monsieur Graham Meg pour son
[10:59]
apport inestimable à notre
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communauté. On March 2nd, the
[11:05]
federal government held the King
[11:06]
Charles III coronation medal
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event at the Bay developer
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nautical Centre. During this
[11:11]
event, more than 12 point quite
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residents received recognition
[11:14]
for their valuable
[11:17]
contributions. Their engagement
[11:18]
and commitment exemplifies the
[11:19]
sense of community we have in
[11:21]
Pointe-Claire. Mr. Graham model
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is awarded the king Charles
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three coronation medal in
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recognition of his 40 years of
[11:29]
volunteer work at the
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Pointe-Claire volunteer rescue
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unit. For decades, -- has played
[11:35]
in the central role in the
[11:37]
safety of our community. His
[11:39]
commitment perfectly illustrates
[11:41]
the values of solidarity and
[11:44]
mutual support that are the
[11:46]
strength of the volunteer rescue
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unit. We extend our sincere east
[11:52]
thanks to -- for his invaluable
[11:54]
contributions to our community.
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Nous tenons également à
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souligner l'engagement des
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résidents et résidentes de
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Pointe-Claire honoré lors de cet
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événement. We would also like to
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highlight the commitment of the
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Pointe-Claire residents honoured
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during this event. Dr. Gordon
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--, George --, Stewart Grant,
[12:16]
Terry Herbert, Terry Hawkins,
[12:18]
Sheila Larsen, Geneviève Lucia,
[12:22]
Debbie mag would, Peter Murphy,
[12:25]
Alison Saunders, Deborah and
[12:27]
Sharon Brad well, Diana --.
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Toutes nos félicitations.
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Congratulations to all La Ville
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tient à souligner l'engagement
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de nos athlètes. Nous entraîneur
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et nous entraîneuse ainsi que
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leur parcours inspirant. Nous
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avons été heureux d'apprendre
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qu'ils soient reconnus dans leur
[12:50]
milieu. Lors du gala annuel de
[12:53]
plongeon Canada, les plongeons
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(---)
[12:58]
et que les
[12:59]
(---)
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ont respectivement reçu le titre
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de plongeur masculin et féminin
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de l'année. Madame Lee à, quant
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à elle, a été honoré du titre
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d'entraîneur senior et monsieur
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James
[13:15]
(---)
[13:16]
de celui d'entraîneur junior de
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l'année. Nous soulignons
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également l'athlète étudiant
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Oskar
[13:24]
(---)
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, résidents de Pointe-Claire,
[13:26]
qui est récipiendaire du
[13:27]
programme de golf Québec et
[13:31]
Fondation
[13:32]
(---)
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. Toutes nos félicitations pour
[13:34]
les reconnaissances bien
[13:35]
méritées. The City would also
[13:38]
like to highlight the commitment
[13:40]
of our athletes and coaches and
[13:41]
their inspiring careers. We were
[13:42]
delighted to hear that they were
[13:44]
recognized in the wider diving
[13:46]
community. At the 2025 and you
[13:48]
will dive Canada gala, divers
[13:50]
Nathan Zsombor-Murray and Caeli
[13:53]
McKay were named male and female
[13:56]
driver of the year respectively.
[13:59]
-- Was named senior coach of the
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year and James Wynne received
[14:03]
the junior coach of the year
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award. We also salute student
[14:06]
athlete, Oscar Ricketts, a
[14:08]
Pointe-Claire resident who was a
[14:10]
recipient of the golf Québec and
[14:13]
-- scholarship program.
[14:16]
Congratulations to all these
[14:17]
well deserved accolades, on all
[14:20]
these well deserved accolades.
[14:23]
Comme on a toujours dit, le
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comité consultatif jeunesse est
[14:28]
à la recherche de résidents et
[14:30]
résidentes âgés de 14 à 21 ans
[14:31]
qui souhaitent devenir membres.
[14:34]
Ce comité fait des
[14:36]
recommandations au conseil
[14:37]
municipal pour bonifier l'offre
[14:38]
de services pour les jeunes et
[14:40]
favoriser la participation à la
[14:42]
Ville. C'est des jeunes de votre
[14:45]
entourage souhaite s'impliquer
[14:47]
pour faire une différence dans
[14:48]
la communauté, inviter-les à
[14:51]
déposer leur candidature. The
[14:54]
youth advisory board is looking
[14:55]
for resident it's aged 14 to 21
[14:58]
who wish to become members. The
[15:00]
board makes recommendations to
[15:01]
the City Council to approve the
[15:03]
wide range of services for young
[15:05]
citizens and to encourage their
[15:07]
participation in Pointe-Claire.
[15:08]
If you know residents between
[15:10]
the age of 14 and 21 who would
[15:14]
like to get involved and make a
[15:15]
difference in their community,
[15:17]
please invite them to apply. Moi
[15:20]
de la francophonie en mars.
[15:22]
Partout au Canada et dans le
[15:23]
monde, nous célébrons le Mois de
[15:24]
la francophonie. C'est une
[15:27]
occasion de mettre en valeur la
[15:29]
richesse et la vitalité de la
[15:31]
langue française, ainsi que les
[15:33]
contributions des francophones à
[15:35]
notre patrimoine culturel et à
[15:37]
notre identité collective. Vous
[15:40]
êtes invités à profiter des
[15:42]
initiatives de la bibliothèque
[15:44]
pour célébrer la richesse de la
[15:46]
langue française. In March,
[15:50]
across Canada and around the
[15:52]
world, we celebrate the month of
[15:57]
the Francophonie. This is an
[15:58]
opportunity to showcase the
[15:59]
richness and vitality of the
[16:00]
French language and the
[16:03]
contributions of Francophones to
[16:04]
our cultural heritage and
[16:06]
collective identity. You are
[16:08]
invited to take advantage of the
[16:10]
libraries initiatives to
[16:11]
celebrate the richness of the
[16:12]
French language. Nous avons eu
[16:18]
d'autres bonnes nouvelles au
[16:19]
cours des deux dernières
[16:20]
semaines. La Société pour la
[16:22]
sauvegarde du patrimoine de
[16:23]
Pointe-Claire à signer un bail
[16:25]
de 50 ans avec la chute des 16
[16:29]
de Montréal pour le
[16:30]
(---)
[16:31]
de Pointe-Claire. Cela lui
[16:34]
permettra d'effectuer les
[16:35]
travaux de réparation et de
[16:38]
restauration, dans la première
[16:40]
phase débutera en 2025. À terme,
[16:44]
elle espère pouvoir ouvrir le
[16:46]
moulin au public par le billet
[16:48]
de visite guidée et d'autres
[16:51]
activités culturelles et
[16:53]
éducatives. La première phase
[16:56]
des travaux sera financé par des
[16:59]
dons privés, dont plus de 350000
[17:02]
ont déjà été recueillis.
[17:06]
J'encourage la communauté à
[17:09]
participer à cet effort, et à
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soutenir la Société du
[17:14]
patrimoine, qui est un organisme
[17:16]
de bienfaisance enregistré, et
[17:19]
peut émettre des reçus aux fins
[17:22]
de l'impôt. Je compte faire ma
[17:24]
part pour les aider à ramasser
[17:26]
des fonds, car ils espèrent
[17:30]
obtenir suffisamment des argents
[17:32]
privés ou de financement du
[17:33]
gouvernement provincial pour
[17:36]
pouvoir poursuivre les travaux.
[17:39]
J'aimerais bien que la Ville
[17:40]
puisse aider à financer ce
[17:42]
projet. Malheureusement, le
[17:45]
conseil a rejeté l'entente que
[17:46]
j'avais négocié pour réaliser ce
[17:48]
projet en 2022. En vertu de son
[17:51]
règlement actuelle adoptée en
[17:54]
2024, le conseil aurait la
[17:56]
possibilité de fournir des
[17:58]
fonds, mais uniquement sur une
[18:00]
base discrétions Neil, une fois
[18:03]
que le projet de restauration a
[18:04]
déjà été entièrement achevé.
[18:07]
Cela signifie que, d'une manière
[18:10]
ou d'une autre, l'argent
[18:12]
nécessaire à la réalisation des
[18:14]
travaux devrait provenir de
[18:16]
collecte de fonds privés et
[18:17]
d'autres niveaux de
[18:18]
gouvernement. Puisqu'il n'y
[18:20]
aurait aucune sorte
[18:23]
(---)
[18:24]
au montant que Pointe-Claire
[18:25]
pourrait donner, on ne pourrait
[18:27]
pas compter sur notre aide
[18:29]
financière pour imputer ou la
[18:32]
prévoir dans le budget d'un
[18:34]
projet. L'archidiocèse a rejeté
[18:37]
cette option et ne pensait
[18:39]
jamais être rembourser. Il est
[18:43]
important que les citoyens
[18:45]
comprennent cette distinction,
[18:47]
car elles expliquent pourquoi la
[18:49]
Société de patrimoine on a mis
[18:52]
un pas de l'avant à chercher de
[18:56]
collecter des fonds par ses
[18:57]
propres moyens. Certains
[19:02]
critiqueront, sans aucun doute,
[19:04]
le plan de la Société du
[19:06]
patrimoine. Comme ils ont
[19:07]
critiqué le mien en 2022. Mais
[19:10]
le fait est que l'entente que
[19:12]
monsieur Ouimet et moi avons
[19:14]
négocié à l'époque et le bail
[19:17]
que
[19:18]
(---)
[19:19]
à négocier pour la Société du
[19:20]
patrimoine maintenant représente
[19:22]
les deux seules scissions
[19:24]
viables mis sur la table en plus
[19:26]
de 20 ans. À mon avis, notre
[19:29]
conseil aurait dû décider, il y
[19:32]
a plusieurs années, d'acheter ou
[19:35]
d'export prier le moulin et la
[19:37]
bande de terrain aux bord de
[19:38]
l'eau, au sud du couvent. Nous
[19:41]
aurions pu alors créer une par
[19:44]
Dumoulin pour nos citoyens. Le
[19:46]
moulin à plus de 300 ans. Il est
[19:49]
l'emblème de notre ville. Notre
[19:52]
bâtiment patrimonial le plus
[19:55]
important, il y a des vins seul
[19:56]
de son genre au Canada! Le fait
[20:00]
qu'il tombent et qu'ils tombent
[20:01]
en ruine sous nos yeux devrait
[20:04]
être une si
[20:06]
(---)
[20:07]
collective pour notre
[20:08]
communauté. À une époque notre
[20:11]
existence notre identité, en
[20:13]
tant que pays, sont menacés, il
[20:15]
est plus important que jamais de
[20:18]
célébrer notre histoire, notre
[20:20]
culture, et notre patrimoine.
[20:23]
Espérons que ce projet ira de
[20:26]
l'avant, et que notre ville
[20:27]
pourra un jour être un
[20:30]
partenaire plutôt qu'un obstacle
[20:31]
à sa réussite. We had some good
[20:35]
news in the last two weeks. The
[20:37]
Pointe-Claire heritage
[20:38]
preservation society has signed
[20:40]
a 50-year lease on Pointe-Claire
[20:42]
windmill with the archdiocese of
[20:44]
Montréal. This will give them
[20:45]
the ability to carry out repairs
[20:48]
and restoration work
[20:52]
(applause)
[20:53]
-- This will give them the
[20:55]
ability to carry out repair and
[20:57]
restoration work with the first
[20:59]
phase to begin in 2025.
[21:01]
Eventually, they hope to be able
[21:02]
to open the windmill to the
[21:04]
public through guided tours and
[21:05]
other cultural and educational
[21:07]
activities. The first phase of
[21:09]
work will be funded with private
[21:11]
donations of which over $350,000
[21:13]
have already been raised. I
[21:15]
would encourage the community to
[21:17]
get involved in this effort and
[21:19]
support the Heritage Society,
[21:21]
which is a risk -- registered
[21:25]
and can shoot tax receipts. I
[21:28]
plan to do my part to help them
[21:29]
obtain funds as they look to
[21:30]
obtain a funding for the
[21:31]
provincial government to be able
[21:32]
to continue with for the work. I
[21:34]
only wish the city could help
[21:36]
fund this project.
[21:38]
Unfortunately, Council rejected
[21:39]
the subsidy agreement that I
[21:41]
negotiated with the archdiocese
[21:42]
to do this in 2022. Under its
[21:44]
current bylaw, adopted in 2024,
[21:56]
PC-2972, Council could provide
[21:57]
funds but only on a
[21:58]
discretionary basis once a
[21:59]
project has already been fully
[22:00]
completed. This means that one
[22:04]
way or another the money to
[22:05]
carry out the work we have to
[22:06]
come from private fund raising
[22:08]
and other levels of government.
[22:10]
Since there would be no
[22:11]
certainty as to whether or how
[22:12]
much Pointe-Claire might give,
[22:15]
our financial assistance could
[22:16]
not be counted on to borrow or
[22:18]
plan for any project budget. If
[22:21]
you don't know what you've got,
[22:23]
you cannot plan for the long
[22:24]
term. The archdiocese rejected
[22:26]
this option as they didn't
[22:28]
believe they would ever get
[22:29]
paid. It is important that
[22:31]
citizens understand this
[22:33]
distinction, since it explains
[22:34]
why the Heritage Society stepped
[22:36]
up and is seeking to raise money
[22:37]
on its own. Someone no doubt
[22:40]
would be critical of the
[22:41]
heritage societies plans just as
[22:42]
they were critical of mine in
[22:44]
2022. But the fact remains that
[22:46]
the agreement Mr. Weemaes and I
[22:49]
negotiated then, and the least
[22:51]
it Andrew Swidzinski has
[22:52]
negotiated with heritage society
[22:53]
now, represent the only two
[22:55]
viable solutions that anyone has
[22:56]
put forward on this issue over a
[22:57]
period of more than 20 years. In
[23:00]
my view, Council should have
[23:02]
bought or expropriated eat
[23:03]
window and district of
[23:04]
waterfront south of the convent
[23:06]
many years ago. And turned it
[23:07]
into a windmill park for
[23:09]
citizens. The windmill is more
[23:10]
than 300 years old. It is our
[23:13]
cities emblem, our most
[23:14]
important heritage building and
[23:16]
one of only 20 of its kind in
[23:18]
all of Canada. The fact that it
[23:20]
is falling apart before our eyes
[23:22]
should be a collective
[23:23]
embarrassment to our community.
[23:25]
At a time when our existence and
[23:28]
identity as a country are being
[23:29]
threatened, it is more important
[23:30]
than ever to celebrate our
[23:33]
history, our culture and our
[23:34]
heritage. Let's hope that this
[23:35]
project will move forward and
[23:37]
that our city can one day be a
[23:38]
partner instead of an obstacle
[23:40]
to its success. Merci.
[24:05]
- 1.1 Adoption de l'ordre du
[24:06]
jour.
[24:07]
>> For the adoption of the
[24:08]
agenda. Do I have a mover?
[24:13]
>> Bob Bissonnette, district 2.
[24:15]
>> Seconder.
[24:17]
>> Tara Stainforth, district 4.
[24:18]
>> All in favour?
[24:23]
>> 2.1 Proclamer le 13 mai 2025
[24:24]
comme étant la Journée du denim
[24:27]
pour le cancer du sein dans la
[24:28]
Ville de Pointe-Claire.
[24:31]
>> 3.1 Approve the minutes of
[24:32]
the regular meeting of February
[24:33]
4, 2025, and of the special
[24:34]
meeting of February 19, 2025.
[24:36]
>> For 2.1 and 3.1, do I have a
[24:39]
mover?
[24:40]
>> But Bissonnette, to strict.
[24:41]
To
[24:43]
>> Seconder?
[24:44]
>> Tara Stainforth, district
[24:45]
four.
[24:46]
>> All in favour?
[24:47]
>> Thank you.
[24:51]
>> Question period.
[24:54]
- Période de questions. Pour la
[24:57]
période de questions, vous avez
[24:58]
été accueilli à l'entrée pour
[25:00]
vous inscrire à la période de
[25:02]
questions. Afin de vous
[25:04]
promettre de demeurer à vos
[25:06]
places jusqu'à l'appel de votre
[25:07]
nom. Nous garderons 90 minutes
[25:10]
pour la période de questions.
[25:13]
Une personne à la fois au micro.
[25:16]
Nous vous remercions d'attendre
[25:18]
que le citoyen est terminé de
[25:20]
poser sa question et que vous
[25:22]
soyez appelés avant de vous
[25:24]
lever pour faire votre question,
[25:27]
nous accordons la priorité aux
[25:29]
résidentes et aux résidents de
[25:32]
Pointe-Claire. Les non-résidents
[25:33]
pourront poser leurs questions
[25:35]
par la suite si le temps n'est
[25:37]
pas écoulé. For question period,
[25:40]
you were greeted at the entrance
[25:41]
to register so that you could
[25:43]
remain seated until you hear
[25:45]
your name. We shall stick to the
[25:47]
90 minute time limit for
[25:48]
question period. One person at a
[25:50]
time at the microphone. Thank
[25:52]
you for waiting for a citizen to
[25:55]
finish asking their questioned
[25:56]
and to be called before you get
[25:57]
up to ask yours. We give
[25:58]
priority to Pointe-Claire
[26:00]
residents. Non residents can ask
[26:01]
their questions afterwards if
[26:03]
time has not run out. To start,
[26:06]
we will begin with Terri omen.
[26:16]
>> Hello. Do I have to see what
[26:18]
district I'm in? All right.
[26:20]
>> Your name.
[26:21]
>> Terry Allmand.
[26:24]
>> So, I do not attend the last
[26:28]
council meeting, but I believe
[26:31]
that the subject of 15-minute
[26:33]
cities was brought up? Okay. I
[26:35]
don't think it was brought up --
[26:38]
>> Very briefly. In a passing
[26:40]
comment, yes.
[26:41]
>> In fact, when I was listening
[26:42]
back I missed it. So it was
[26:44]
pretty brief.
[26:45]
[Laughter]
[26:46]
But I think it's a pretty
[26:47]
important subject. I know that
[26:49]
I'm very curious about it and
[26:50]
I've done a little bit of
[26:52]
dabbling on the internet with
[26:55]
it, so I would like to find out
[27:00]
how much this has been
[27:02]
investigated here at the
[27:03]
Pointe-Claire level. I did go to
[27:04]
the cop station to ask if they
[27:05]
had anything. I asked here. I
[27:08]
call the. They said I had to go
[27:10]
through communications
[27:14]
Pointe-Claire.com to see if I
[27:15]
could get a pamphlet or any
[27:16]
information on.
[27:24]
Anyway, I'm bringing up here
[27:26]
tonight to actually encourage
[27:29]
everyone to be curious about
[27:31]
this subject because 15-minute
[27:33]
cities, although they all sound
[27:34]
great, to me it almost sounds
[27:36]
like a pharmaceutical commercial
[27:40]
where it's all sunshine out in
[27:42]
nature and all that, and at the
[27:43]
bottom all the adverse reactions
[27:48]
that could happen. In the hopes
[27:51]
of avoiding a situation where we
[27:53]
have a rowdy bunch here, if we
[27:55]
could take the time now to
[27:57]
investigate that subject at the
[28:01]
Canadian levels, but it has also
[28:02]
been introduced in other
[28:03]
countries. So, if we could
[28:07]
maybe, as a support to each
[28:08]
other, maybe form 18? Obviously,
[28:14]
Cynthia Homan is my councillor,
[28:15]
but if anyone wants to join in
[28:17]
or anyone else who doesn't mind
[28:18]
doing some research, that would
[28:19]
be great. Just to find out a
[28:21]
little bit more about what are
[28:23]
the pros and cons of this.
[28:25]
Because it's only advertised as
[28:26]
a pro. I don't know about
[28:32]
anybody here, but there is the
[28:33]
wording 15-minute city, but
[28:35]
there also is the wording smart.
[28:39]
Smart does not mean intelligent,
[28:41]
it's an acronym. Does anyone
[28:42]
know what the acronym stands
[28:43]
for?
[28:47]
>> I know a couple of them.
[28:49]
>> I'm not surprised. I'm not
[28:50]
trying to put anyone on the
[28:51]
spot. So many people did not
[28:52]
know. All the women at the cop
[28:54]
station had no idea what I was
[28:56]
talking about even when I
[28:57]
mentioned 15-minute cities.
[29:00]
>> It's relatively recent.
[29:02]
>> Well, it's been around for a
[29:04]
while. Maybe not here, but it's
[29:06]
been around for a while.
[29:07]
>> Well, Europe is always way
[29:09]
ahead of. Us
[29:10]
>> West?
[29:11]
>> Europe is always ahead of us.
[29:12]
>> Yeah. Well, okay, let's get
[29:13]
ahead of it ourselves. We have
[29:16]
to find out it's a done deal.
[29:18]
Right? So I'm just going to tell
[29:21]
you what the smart stance for
[29:26]
when it says smart city.
[29:28]
Surveillance, monitoring,
[29:30]
analysis, reporting, technology.
[29:33]
Does that sound like a nice walk
[29:35]
in the park? To me, it sounds
[29:38]
like big brother is watching. It
[29:40]
sounds like, and I hit seen so
[29:41]
many cameras go up, and I'm
[29:44]
thinking am I going to jaywalk?
[29:49]
[Laughter]
[29:50]
You know? Like what is going to
[29:51]
happen if I do? Just stupid
[29:53]
little things that could get
[29:54]
people in trouble like it has in
[29:57]
say, for example, China, which
[29:58]
is an extreme example. It's
[30:00]
actually dissociated system
[30:01]
where they have cameras
[30:03]
everywhere and this smart city
[30:05]
setup, there is face recognition
[30:11]
-- you won't believe it. Tap --
[30:14]
type in on your computers and
[30:15]
find out. I encourage everyone
[30:16]
to do that. In fact, I think it
[30:18]
would be a nice thing if we as a
[30:21]
community got to know more about
[30:23]
it together. If there was a site
[30:25]
that we could have provided by
[30:27]
the City where
[30:34]
we could find our findings on
[30:36]
the net, probably trustworthy,
[30:37]
but let's go see what is garbage
[30:39]
and what is not, but then let's
[30:41]
not pretend it's a
[30:43]
pharmaceutical ad. Like, put
[30:44]
some good stuff out there. Not
[30:49]
everyone is going to want to
[30:50]
meet behind someone's desk here
[30:51]
at City Council. But maybe there
[30:53]
is a place where we can send
[30:54]
where we find out about it?
[31:01]
Maybe one of the guys, maybe
[31:03]
Cynthia, maybe some others,
[31:04]
might want to get together and
[31:05]
discuss it a little bit? And you
[31:07]
can include us if you want,
[31:09]
whoever wants to put something
[31:10]
in. Does that sound like a
[31:12]
reasonable request?
[31:13]
>> Totally.
[31:14]
>> Okay.
[31:15]
>> Yeah.
[31:16]
>> Mister Mayor, may I?
[31:17]
>> Yes, absolutely.
[31:18]
>> The 15-minute city concept
[31:20]
was actually developed in Paris
[31:21]
few years ago. It's one of the
[31:24]
underlying concepts that has
[31:27]
been propelling this whole --
[31:31]
PMAD process with the City of
[31:32]
Montréal that we are working on.
[31:33]
That is the -- what is it? Yeah.
[31:40]
It is the whole rethink of the
[31:42]
island of Montréal. Actually,
[31:44]
the Montréal metropolitan
[31:45]
community. It goes right back to
[31:46]
the 15-minute city. The R.E.M.
[31:49]
is part of that.
[31:50]
>> Absolutely. Absolutely.
[31:52]
>> But the 15-minute city is an
[31:57]
ideal. To achieve it is that
[31:58]
when you walk out of your door,
[32:00]
within 15 minutes you will be
[32:02]
able to get whatever it is you
[32:05]
need, groceries, a job. That is
[32:06]
the idea. It's not something
[32:09]
that is likely, especially in
[32:10]
Pointe-Claire where we are
[32:11]
already rather built, it's not
[32:13]
likely ever to be achieved in
[32:17]
total. But it is an ideal, an
[32:19]
objective. It is why the R.E.M.
[32:21]
is there. It's the concept
[32:23]
behind the R.E.M. stations, it's
[32:25]
the concept behind the transit
[32:27]
oriented development at the mass
[32:28]
transit stations. It is all part
[32:30]
of that ideal and the working
[32:34]
hypothesis is that if you have
[32:35]
that, you will minimize the use
[32:36]
of the car. So people get around
[32:40]
by walking, by public transit
[32:41]
and by bicycle. By doing that,
[32:44]
it will have a very positive
[32:46]
effect on the environment. Those
[32:48]
are the objectives of the
[32:50]
15-minute city. As for the smart
[32:52]
city, I mean when you say
[32:54]
surveillance, are you looking at
[32:56]
people? Yes, but another way of
[32:57]
looking at it is if you are
[32:58]
looking at vehicles, for
[33:00]
instance. Like, if you want to
[33:01]
control traffic on Saint John or
[33:03]
the other major arteries, you
[33:05]
can have a smart, not an
[33:07]
acronym, but the actual word, a
[33:09]
smart traffic signalling system
[33:10]
that picks up, it has sensors
[33:13]
around Saint-Jean and all the
[33:14]
feeder streets, so that you
[33:16]
realize that cars that are
[33:18]
approaching St. Joe. And you can
[33:20]
automatically, through
[33:21]
artificial intelligence
[33:22]
analysis, suggest the
[33:23]
signalling. So you minimize
[33:25]
congestion. So, yes, you want to
[33:26]
make sure, I think that you are
[33:29]
not recording everybody's faces,
[33:31]
but it might be useful to
[33:32]
records vehicles. You don't
[33:35]
necessarily have to have the
[33:38]
capability to check to know
[33:39]
which vehicle. For the purposes
[33:41]
of signalling, it does not
[33:42]
matter. It just matters that
[33:44]
there are so many because
[33:45]
approaching no. How can
[33:48]
signalling be modified to
[33:49]
prevent congestion?
[33:51]
>> I don't know how it is we
[33:53]
have survived this long this
[33:55]
far.
[33:56]
[Laughter]
[33:57]
>> To answer your question,
[33:58]
there has been citizen
[33:59]
involvement in all of this since
[34:00]
the beginning.
[34:01]
>> Sorry?
[34:02]
>> There has been a citizen
[34:03]
involvement in revising the
[34:04]
Planning Program right from the
[34:05]
beginning. There may not have
[34:06]
been anything specifically on
[34:08]
the 15-minute city, but that is
[34:10]
an underlying principle.
[34:12]
>> Well, I mean, I understand
[34:15]
the idea of less cars. Although
[34:17]
they did come back
[34:18]
(applause)
[34:19]
Give back some more parking
[34:20]
spaces in Montréal because it
[34:21]
went overboard. You know, in
[34:24]
terms of the bicycle routes and
[34:26]
all that. I think they had to
[34:27]
make some modifications because
[34:29]
it was way too gung ho.
[34:37]
What makes me worried is what
[34:39]
are the next steps behind all of
[34:40]
the green statements. Good for
[34:42]
the environment and that. What
[34:44]
are the next things really? I
[34:47]
have this feeling there might be
[34:54]
more. It's worth investigating.
[34:55]
That is what I'm saying. What I
[34:56]
don't want to see is if somebody
[34:59]
says you've got a 15-minute
[35:01]
range to get everything you
[35:04]
want, so therefore that is all
[35:05]
you get.
[35:10]
Well, I don't know. That is what
[35:12]
I don't want. I don't want to be
[35:13]
limited in my movement. No?
[35:15]
>> No.
[35:16]
>> You can guarantee that to me?
[35:18]
>> No guarantees, but that is
[35:19]
not the objective.
[35:20]
>> Logically speaking you would
[35:21]
say no. I know it would kill my
[35:23]
husband. He plays hockey in
[35:25]
Montréal West. If he could not
[35:26]
go there or if he had to take
[35:27]
the R.E.M. to do it. No? Okay.
[35:31]
>> It's a controversial subject.
[35:33]
I have met a lot of people that
[35:34]
really don't like the concept
[35:41]
. Thing for me is that it's
[35:43]
completely undermined by the
[35:45]
affordability crisis. People who
[35:46]
work in Pointe-Claire cannot
[35:47]
afford to live in Pointe-Claire.
[35:48]
If you are working in retail or
[35:50]
you are working in the
[35:51]
industrial park, you are living
[35:52]
out by Vaudreuil to afford to
[35:54]
come in. So, it is completely
[35:56]
undermined by affordability. So,
[35:58]
we are a long way from
[35:59]
accomplishing that goal.
[36:01]
>> Yeah. Well, okay. I just
[36:03]
thought I would bring it up.
[36:05]
>> No, I appreciate it.
[36:06]
>> Just to be aware of this.
[36:08]
Also, to invite any research
[36:09]
that anyone else finds out about
[36:11]
it.
[36:12]
>> Mayor Thomas, may I add
[36:13]
something?
[36:14]
>> Yes, absolutely.
[36:15]
>> I understand your concerns.
[36:16]
Of course, I think everyone here
[36:18]
shares in the concerns of being
[36:20]
under surveillance, but we have
[36:24]
gone to conferences as council
[36:26]
members and our staff as well,
[36:29]
everything that has to do with
[36:30]
smart cities. It has more to do
[36:31]
with collecting data in order to
[36:33]
make the city more efficient and
[36:34]
to meet the needs of our
[36:35]
citizens better. As Mr. Cohen
[36:39]
was saying, we will collect data
[36:40]
on car movement so that we can
[36:43]
determine whether or not if a
[36:45]
street should have a -- or not
[36:47]
on it. How many cars are passing
[36:49]
down the street? What is the
[36:50]
speed of the car for traffic
[36:52]
flow? We collected on the number
[36:53]
of people signed up for
[36:55]
swimming, for example, so that
[36:56]
we can see where our service
[36:58]
offering has to go. We have
[37:01]
different systems that we are
[37:03]
using at the city in urban
[37:04]
planning and in engineering
[37:06]
where they are collecting data
[37:08]
and they are layering maps so we
[37:10]
know where pipes are and we know
[37:11]
where gaslights are. So we know
[37:13]
what our soil samples are so
[37:15]
that when we do a project we are
[37:17]
well outfitted to move forward
[37:19]
on that project. So while the
[37:22]
acronym is certainly alarming,
[37:25]
the way you have said it, we
[37:26]
have been too smart city
[37:29]
conference is, not conferences
[37:31]
that are just smart city, but
[37:33]
workshops rather. It has more to
[37:35]
do with the use of technology
[37:37]
and collecting our data to offer
[37:40]
better services and a more
[37:41]
efficient and more
[37:42]
environmentally friendly
[37:44]
sustainable service offering as
[37:45]
cities.
[37:46]
>> Okay. And I guess that comes
[37:48]
at a cost as well? Putting
[37:49]
cameras everywhere?
[37:51]
>> We haven't put cameras
[37:52]
everywhere. It is more we will
[37:55]
put -- they are not permanent
[37:57]
installations. For example, we
[37:58]
will track traffic, but they are
[37:59]
non permanent installations that
[38:00]
we move around. Just like they
[38:03]
have weather tracking so that we
[38:05]
know how much to salt went to
[38:07]
salt. So the air temperature is
[38:09]
tracked in different locations.
[38:12]
That's because that affects how
[38:13]
much salt should go down
[38:14]
depending on the temperature.
[38:15]
So, we are collecting data like
[38:17]
that. We are not so interested
[38:19]
in collecting images of your
[38:21]
face or anything like that.
[38:23]
>> Not like China.
[38:24]
>> It's more how many books and
[38:26]
mandarin are checked out at the
[38:27]
library. Do we have to have a
[38:28]
better service offering? It's
[38:31]
more things like that in order
[38:32]
to provide better services.
[38:34]
>> I would like to get some
[38:35]
research to find out how the
[38:36]
people in Cambridge, England, I
[38:38]
think it's Cambridge, how they
[38:40]
are responding to their
[38:42]
surveillance. Anyway, I just
[38:44]
want to open the page on that
[38:46]
and get some feedback. Not just
[38:47]
for me because we are not
[38:49]
actually living it right now,
[38:51]
but you know. Okay. That's it. I
[38:52]
want to get a more time.
[38:53]
>> Thank you. She let Larsen?
[39:00]
-- Sheila Larsen.
[39:04]
>> I am very grateful to hear
[39:07]
the praise that has been given
[39:09]
already to Council, to the
[39:12]
Pointe-Claire Heritage Society.
[39:14]
And I just wanted to add my
[39:16]
voice as a citizen who has loved
[39:19]
that windmill every year since
[39:22]
1971 when I moved here. And I
[39:25]
have been dismayed to see it
[39:27]
falling into disrepair. And I've
[39:30]
been dismayed to see that we
[39:31]
were not able to do something
[39:33]
for it. I used to live next door
[39:36]
to Jan proud foot who did an
[39:39]
original painting of the
[39:41]
windmill that became part of the
[39:43]
symbol for quite a long time. So
[39:45]
I wanted to honour the people
[39:48]
who did the hardest work. And I
[39:49]
do not know them all, I'm an on
[39:52]
again off again kind of member
[39:54]
of that society, and so I cannot
[39:56]
name all the names but I know
[39:58]
that Andrew -- Andrew Swidzinski
[40:01]
and normal point I think our to
[40:04]
keep people. They have worked so
[40:09]
doggedly without support for so
[40:11]
long. I think that what they
[40:13]
have done is basically a
[40:16]
miracle. And based on that, what
[40:19]
I would like to see, and because
[40:21]
to me it is an important symbol,
[40:23]
and we need to feel good about
[40:25]
things these days, there's too
[40:27]
many things to feel distressed
[40:29]
about and stressed out about. I
[40:31]
would love it if the City would
[40:34]
support a really good
[40:35]
promotional campaign to get
[40:37]
every citizen. I was thinking,
[40:39]
you know, if every citizen of
[40:40]
Pointe-Claire gave ten bucks,
[40:42]
that would be pretty amazing.
[40:44]
That would add a lot of money. I
[40:46]
have personally given some money
[40:48]
to it and I will try and do that
[40:49]
all the way through their
[40:51]
campaign. But they are going to
[40:53]
need more help than that. And so
[40:55]
that brings me to my question.
[40:57]
And I know this has not been a
[41:02]
happy discussion among Council,
[41:05]
but to me I really wish and I
[41:08]
hoped that Council would come
[41:10]
together and say the thank you
[41:12]
for doing your part, heritage
[41:16]
society. Now we are going to
[41:18]
come forward and we are going to
[41:19]
give you that support that you
[41:21]
need. Not all of it, but a real
[41:23]
good boost that will mean to all
[41:27]
citizens of Pointe-Claire, and
[41:28]
to everybody beyond in the
[41:31]
Agglo, that we care about that
[41:32]
place. We care about our
[41:34]
heritage. We are proud of it and
[41:36]
we are going to protect it and
[41:38]
build it and develop it. I watch
[41:44]
little television shows about
[41:46]
places in England where they get
[41:47]
their windmills from 1400 or
[41:51]
1600 working again. And they buy
[41:55]
stone ground flower from them. I
[41:56]
keep thinking why can't we? You
[41:59]
know, that is my question. Why
[42:01]
can't we? And maybe can we?
[42:04]
>> We can. In fact, from what I
[42:06]
am told by some of the founding
[42:11]
members, Claude Arseneault in
[42:13]
particular, that the mechanism
[42:14]
sits in a basement in
[42:17]
Pointe-Claire village that has
[42:18]
been imported from France and
[42:19]
that has been sitting in there
[42:20]
for over a decade, that has not
[42:21]
been put into the windmill. When
[42:22]
I negotiated the original deal,
[42:24]
that was factored it to the
[42:27]
process. Mr. Weemaes and I
[42:29]
factor that in. The idea was to
[42:31]
get a functional windmill. I was
[42:32]
speaking with Jeff Kelly last
[42:34]
night. Why can't Pointe-Claire
[42:36]
have a windmill as good as
[42:37]
anyone else is? I would love
[42:39]
that. Jeff was saying he bikes
[42:41]
out to the one in -- and he
[42:43]
loves it because it works. The
[42:45]
issue of course is that we do
[42:46]
not opponent. So we have to find
[42:47]
a way to make it happen with
[42:49]
that owning it and that has
[42:50]
always been the problem. We have
[42:51]
to learn that we have to suck it
[42:53]
up and do our job in some way
[42:56]
shape or form and not leave it
[42:57]
up to reach private donors. That
[42:59]
is where we are at now with the
[43:01]
Heritage Society. They've done a
[43:03]
wonderful job of raising money,
[43:05]
but to plan how they are going
[43:07]
to renovated and what kind of
[43:09]
windmill we are going to get,
[43:10]
they can only do that if they
[43:11]
have the money upfront. So here
[43:14]
in lies the dilemma of the
[43:16]
situation we are in. So the
[43:18]
money upfront right now, they
[43:19]
have 350,000, you are quite
[43:21]
right. They need more. So we
[43:22]
need to find a way to get more
[43:23]
in some way shape or form. I
[43:24]
would love it if our city could
[43:25]
do that.
[43:28]
>> So would I. That would make
[43:30]
me very proud after a year of
[43:32]
not feeling quite so proud. So I
[43:34]
leave with that hope.
[43:35]
>> Absolutely. Mr. Cousineau?
[43:38]
>> Yes. We actually have
[43:42]
$8,350,000.
[43:45]
>> No, they don't. They have
[43:48]
$350,000.
[43:49]
>> May I comment, sir?
[43:50]
>> Yes, absolutely.
[43:51]
>> Okay, Mister Mayor. I was
[43:52]
going to wait until the end of
[43:53]
question period to sit down the
[43:54]
chair because every time I have
[43:55]
brought this issue up to
[43:58]
councillors, you stuck your head
[43:59]
in the sand. Once again, you are
[44:02]
misrepresenting the truth. You
[44:03]
are blatantly lying. Okay? I
[44:06]
will explain it to you. Feel
[44:07]
free to answer. You just said
[44:12]
your deal. There was no deal.
[44:16]
Then you mentioned that the deal
[44:17]
they just signed is the same
[44:19]
with the access. No, it's not.
[44:20]
First of all, has anyone seen
[44:22]
the deal with the archdiocese?
[44:24]
By the way, I was the first one
[44:25]
on Facebook to commend the
[44:28]
society for what they did and to
[44:31]
get --. I believe he is a
[44:34]
business person and he knows
[44:35]
what to do. And I believe he can
[44:37]
help nudge them further. So,
[44:38]
they have my full support. But
[44:39]
to hear what I'm saying -- so
[44:41]
you are seeing that in your deal
[44:43]
-- was there guaranteed access?
[44:45]
No, there wasn't.
[44:47]
>> You just asked the question.
[44:49]
>> Go ahead because I have all
[44:50]
the documents in the back. I
[44:51]
will go and get them and I will
[44:52]
show them to you. So please
[44:53]
answer my question.
[44:54]
>> Okay. This is the big myth
[44:59]
and counter fuse that comes
[45:00]
around this issue. Access to the
[45:02]
windmill. It is a small little
[45:04]
space with a working mechanism
[45:06]
that you do not want to go
[45:07]
inside anyway. Nor should you
[45:08]
have someone go inside anyway.
[45:10]
>> You just said you are going
[45:11]
to have guided tours!
[45:12]
>> They are historic. I will
[45:14]
answer your question. The access
[45:17]
agreement, the access terms that
[45:19]
were in the deal that Mr.
[45:20]
Weemaes and I negotiated, were
[45:22]
actually better than the access
[45:23]
terms that are in the current
[45:25]
arrangement. And I have read
[45:26]
that out in this meeting two
[45:30]
years ago. I read the actual
[45:32]
terms of access in the original
[45:34]
arrangement that Mr. Weemaes and
[45:35]
I negotiated and the current
[45:36]
one. And the terms are actually
[45:38]
better.
[45:39]
>> No, you did not.
[45:40]
>> Yes, I did.
[45:41]
>> Please provide what those
[45:42]
terms are.
[45:43]
>> Ladies and gentlemen of
[45:44]
Pointe-Claire, you can go back
[45:45]
-- I'm not finished.
[45:46]
>> I'm not finished.
[45:47]
>> Councillor Stork, I am still
[45:53]
talking.
[45:54]
>> Okay, but --
[45:55]
>> Councillor Stork, I'm still
[45:57]
talking. Excuse me, folks, I am
[45:58]
the chair of this meeting and I
[45:59]
will continue to answer the
[46:01]
question. Councillor Stork, I am
[46:03]
not finished yet. The
[46:07]
arrangement that was negotiated
[46:10]
by the so stated about one, the
[46:12]
Heritage Society, included
[46:14]
private members who do not want
[46:15]
their names known. It is
[46:17]
preferable not to. They are
[46:19]
kind, generous human beings.
[46:21]
Yes, one of the names mentioned
[46:22]
is actually a person I spoke to
[46:24]
and encouraged to do so. So I
[46:27]
know exactly what is going on
[46:29]
with this. The terms of access
[46:32]
is a snare and a delusion. It's
[46:33]
a small little place where you
[46:35]
don't want people going in,
[46:37]
especially with a working
[46:38]
mechanism. It's a mythology.
[46:41]
It's a way of distracting. The
[46:43]
real issue is that we have to
[46:44]
get the thing fixed. I would
[46:46]
like it fixed so it works. Let's
[46:48]
not get hung up on little terms.
[46:50]
Let's get the job done. Let's
[46:52]
get the money we need to get it
[46:54]
done. Who cares about semantics
[46:56]
and arguments and positions?
[46:57]
>> I would like to finish --
[46:59]
>> I am not finished. Who cares
[47:01]
about semantics?
[47:02]
>> Answer the question.
[47:03]
>> Councillor Stork, would you
[47:04]
let me finish? The answer -- the
[47:07]
issue here is we want to get
[47:08]
this thing fixed in any way
[47:10]
shape or form. The archdiocese
[47:12]
has $350,000. It needs a lot
[47:14]
more. We have to find a way to
[47:15]
get it to them. To get a working
[47:17]
windmill requires a lot of
[47:18]
money. And of story.
[47:20]
>> Okay. I would just like to
[47:22]
add some other points. So thank
[47:23]
you for not answering my
[47:25]
question. You said this
[47:28]
documentation is decisional. No,
[47:30]
it is not decisional. The
[47:33]
documentation is not
[47:35]
discretionary. We created a
[47:37]
bylaw, a written bylaw, with
[47:39]
money put aside in the bank. It
[47:41]
is very simple. Whoever the
[47:45]
owner of the building files
[47:48]
reports, put some stuff to get,
[47:49]
it says exactly what they are
[47:50]
going to. Yes, they get paid at
[47:51]
the end. Just like they are when
[47:54]
they go to the provincial
[47:55]
government. They are going to
[47:56]
get paid at the end. We
[47:58]
duplicated the procedure. The
[48:00]
procedure that the provincial
[48:01]
government will use for the
[48:02]
heritage decided to get any
[48:03]
money whatsoever. So it is not
[48:05]
decisional. It is not
[48:07]
discretionary. I can ask our
[48:08]
legal department right now, but
[48:10]
I can guarantee I know the
[48:11]
answer. We created it. They fill
[48:13]
in the documentation. We don't
[48:14]
have the option of not giving
[48:16]
them money if they say -- they
[48:19]
do what they say they are going
[48:20]
to do. It's a legal bylaw we
[48:21]
have created. The money is put
[48:23]
aside. They do what they need to
[48:24]
do and they have to do the same
[48:26]
thing with the provincial
[48:27]
government when they go look for
[48:28]
money as we are asking. But once
[48:30]
they do that we hand them the
[48:32]
money. I will be more than happy
[48:33]
to hand them money. I'm not
[48:36]
speaking on behalf of Council,
[48:37]
but I guarantee you that they
[48:38]
are happy with it as well. And
[48:40]
no, we have not seen this new
[48:42]
agreement. Obviously, you have,
[48:43]
Mister Mayor. Let me finish. I
[48:47]
am not finished, sir. Okay? I
[48:49]
have not finished. So when you
[48:52]
had this agreement in 2000 --
[48:54]
when you had your agreement, it
[48:55]
was done completely behind our
[48:57]
backs. I had emails, I won't
[48:59]
make them all public, I have
[49:00]
emails between certain members.
[49:02]
Nobody on council. Not even our
[49:04]
DG involved in these
[49:05]
discussions. Then you present us
[49:07]
an argument and written
[49:09]
statements that we will have
[49:10]
full access to the windmill.
[49:11]
There is nothing in your
[49:13]
agreement with the previous deep
[49:14]
G who is not even here to speak
[49:16]
for himself. So my point is very
[49:18]
simple. It's not decisional.
[49:21]
It's not discretionary. It is
[49:22]
there. And the archdiocese is
[49:25]
fully access -- they can still
[49:26]
go forward. Sign the
[49:30]
documentation and we will hand
[49:31]
them the money. If they give
[49:33]
them a proxy, but they will have
[49:34]
to go through the same process
[49:36]
to get the money from the
[49:37]
provincial government. So we
[49:39]
have the money there. To say
[49:41]
that the City is doing nothing?
[49:42]
We are handing the $967,000.
[49:46]
Just please go fill out
[49:47]
paperwork. When you hire someone
[49:48]
for renovations, do you give
[49:50]
them all the money upfront? I
[49:51]
don't. Can we possibly set some
[49:54]
goals?
[49:55]
>> You usually have to pay in
[49:57]
installments.
[49:58]
>> Well to a certain extent.
[50:00]
Again, I'm more than happy to
[50:01]
send the legal documentation.
[50:03]
This is exactly how the
[50:04]
provincial government doesn't
[50:05]
for grants. And we are doing
[50:06]
exactly the same thing. To say
[50:08]
the City does not want to do it.
[50:10]
The city. The city. No, we have
[50:12]
done everything we can. We have
[50:14]
offered the money. It is still
[50:15]
available. It is still available
[50:16]
to whomever applies for it as
[50:18]
long as the owner signs off on
[50:19]
it. So, the money is there. So,
[50:22]
we need to move forward with
[50:23]
this. We need to fix that
[50:25]
windmill.
[50:26]
>> I agree. And I don't want to
[50:28]
continue this --
[50:29]
>> We have not done everything
[50:30]
we can. If we did what we could,
[50:33]
the money would be upfront. And
[50:35]
I have dealt with Stephen
[50:37]
Maroney, the representative, the
[50:39]
archdiocese, and I've negotiated
[50:40]
with them. I know him quite
[50:41]
well. And he in no way will
[50:45]
start any kind of reparation
[50:48]
process in an arrangement where
[50:50]
they get paid at the end of the
[50:51]
game. They will not do that and
[50:53]
they refused to do that. So that
[50:54]
is our bottom line. That is why
[50:56]
since the current arrangement
[50:57]
has been in place the windmill
[50:58]
has been indicate. Nothing has
[51:01]
happened and nothing will happen
[51:04]
until someone changes the
[51:05]
current arrangement which is
[51:07]
inadequate arrangement. So what
[51:08]
the archdiocese has done, it has
[51:10]
gone out and done it themselves
[51:12]
because they know the money is
[51:13]
not going to come any other way.
[51:14]
And the archdiocese is not going
[51:15]
to start repairs and the other
[51:17]
way. So they are saving the
[51:20]
stalemate effectively. That is
[51:21]
what is going on here.
[51:22]
>> And I would just finish by
[51:24]
saying that I hope there can be
[51:26]
something in between. I see that
[51:28]
there is a grant being given to
[51:29]
the lakeshore General Hospital
[51:31]
Foundation. I am sure the City
[51:33]
gives grants to people who
[51:35]
haven't given their past
[51:38]
expenses or the expenses for
[51:39]
which they are asking for the
[51:41]
money. Are you sure -- I am sure
[51:44]
there are other presidents as
[51:45]
well. I would hope that the city
[51:47]
would show the goodwill and to
[51:49]
want to preserve our heritage.
[51:52]
Not only to preserve, but to say
[51:54]
that windmill for all of us here
[51:56]
in Pointe-Claire. And so I hope
[51:58]
we can find some middle ground
[52:00]
somewhere. I think we need a lot
[52:03]
more finding of middle ground.
[52:04]
Thank you.
[52:05]
>> May I comment?
[52:06]
>> Yes, absolutely.
[52:07]
>> Yes, we do give grants. We
[52:09]
give grants to nonprofit
[52:13]
organizations that we support,
[52:14]
that support our citizens. I
[52:17]
100% support what we put in
[52:19]
place to give $8 million of hard
[52:22]
earned tax payer money that they
[52:24]
have given to us to do the job
[52:27]
that the church is legally bound
[52:28]
to do, which they are not doing.
[52:30]
Okay? I want this to be very
[52:32]
clear. They are legally bound to
[52:33]
take care of their building and
[52:34]
they have not done it. This is a
[52:37]
four billion dollar organization
[52:40]
and -- in Canada alone. They
[52:41]
have 400 and $90 million in
[52:45]
cash. Okay? These are the
[52:47]
statistics. And they can't front
[52:50]
$950,000 until the project is
[52:52]
done? When we are going to hand
[52:53]
the money over? This might not
[52:55]
be a very popular opinion that I
[52:56]
am sharing right now, but I
[52:58]
support fixing that, but I do
[52:59]
not support giving the hard
[53:00]
earned money of my residents to
[53:03]
somebody, carte blanche, without
[53:05]
them even being -- willing to
[53:09]
collect paperwork. That is where
[53:10]
I stand on this issue. We are
[53:12]
talking about a multi billion
[53:13]
dollar organization. I am never
[53:15]
going to vote to grant them
[53:17]
money beyond what we have done.
[53:19]
This is to safeguard our
[53:21]
citizens money and to make sure
[53:23]
that this project goes through
[53:24]
in the best way possible. Nobody
[53:27]
gets carte blanche had a cheque.
[53:29]
When we are talking about grants
[53:30]
that we give our nonprofit
[53:32]
organizations, we are talking
[53:33]
about $15,000, not 1 million
[53:36]
dollars.
[53:38]
>> And there is what the
[53:40]
windmill is rotting.
[53:41]
>> That is based on their
[53:42]
finances I have to say. They
[53:43]
have to fill out the paperwork
[53:44]
and submit their finances. If
[53:46]
they have earned too much money,
[53:47]
their current goes down. That is
[53:49]
how it works. So when a four
[53:51]
billion dollar organization is
[53:52]
coming to us, we do want to get
[53:55]
this fixed, yes, but are they
[53:56]
the most worthy of our money?
[53:58]
Probably not because they,
[53:59]
bylaw, should be fixing it
[54:00]
themselves. But we all want to
[54:02]
see this thing get fixed. That
[54:03]
is why we have pledged 1 million
[54:06]
dollars. It is not because they
[54:07]
deserve it.
[54:08]
>> And the windmill is currently
[54:11]
the thing that suffers because
[54:13]
they own it and they are not
[54:14]
going to do it. So the only way
[54:16]
around it is what the Heritage
[54:17]
society has done. Because they
[54:19]
have realized that this impasse
[54:21]
that you have just heard is the
[54:22]
reason why it will continue to
[54:24]
rock. So whether we think it is
[54:26]
just or not, we have to save it.
[54:29]
That is what the Heritage
[54:31]
society has done. They have
[54:33]
realized that it's not going to
[54:34]
happen appear. So they are doing
[54:36]
it themselves. You just heard
[54:38]
why. Susan Weaver?
[54:46]
>> So, in light of your new
[54:49]
information that you have a
[54:50]
police report, I would like you
[54:53]
to may be submitted to legal
[54:55]
affairs so we can have access to
[54:57]
information and compare it.
[54:58]
Because the insurance company
[55:00]
goes by what they have written.
[55:03]
>> Well, the shortage of Québec
[55:05]
trumps an insurance company who
[55:06]
wasn't even there. I'm just
[55:07]
telling you. The police officers
[55:09]
there Trump the insurance
[55:10]
company that find out after the
[55:11]
fact. I'm just telling you.
[55:12]
>> If it's an authentic
[55:14]
document, could you please --
[55:17]
>> Yes, it is authentic.
[55:18]
>> And you will submit it?
[55:20]
>> Of course. Of course. I will
[55:22]
give it to madame Thibault.
[55:23]
Absolutely. Alain Dubé look?
[55:29]
>> Okay. First, concerning the
[55:31]
windmill, I was part of that
[55:33]
police with captain. T'j'fou. At
[55:35]
the time of Mr. Mayor Belvedere
[55:40]
and with Mr. Cousineau, we
[55:42]
worked very hard to find a ways
[55:46]
to get going with the windmill
[55:49]
situation. And we ended up
[55:51]
facing a situation where we need
[55:54]
the help from the government,
[55:58]
the Ministry of Heritage, and we
[55:59]
also need help from the
[56:02]
archdiocese. And we need help
[56:04]
from the City. And we need help
[56:06]
from all the -- and we need help
[56:09]
from all kinds of people if
[56:10]
people can get together and sit
[56:11]
down and get to an agreement.
[56:13]
There is a way. But I cannot see
[56:16]
-- who has maybe ten members,
[56:19]
very brave workers, get anywhere
[56:24]
unless there are three big money
[56:28]
makers that get together. We try
[56:32]
our best to get those people
[56:34]
together. It did not happen
[56:37]
unfortunately. It would be great
[56:38]
if it did. But I don't like to
[56:41]
hear you guys, especially Mister
[56:44]
Mayor, please, it's not my
[56:45]
fault, it's their fault. T'j'We
[56:47]
are not children here to listen
[56:49]
to those things --
[56:50]
>> Excuse me, I never said it
[56:51]
wasn't my fault. Did I ever say
[56:53]
that?
[56:54]
>> What I'm trying to say --
[56:55]
>> Excuse me.
[56:56]
>> There is a way to get all
[57:01]
together. I see the comment of
[57:05]
Mrs. Stainforth. It's a great
[57:07]
comment. I mean it's impossible
[57:08]
for her not to say, come on, we
[57:11]
are not going to put all our
[57:13]
money into that. We need
[57:14]
collaboration from the
[57:15]
government. We need
[57:16]
collaboration from the church.
[57:17]
We need that. Unless we get
[57:19]
that, we are not going to go
[57:21]
anywhere. That is my opinion.
[57:23]
Now, this is not the reason why
[57:24]
I am here at the microphone. I
[57:26]
am talking about something else.
[58:17]
[Speaking French]
[58:55]
[Speaking French]
[59:25]
[Speaking French]
[59:59]
Il ne peut pas le faire parce
[1:00:00]
que tu vas par année. Autrement,
[1:00:01]
il y a des gens qui feraient ça
[1:00:02]
à toutes les fins de semaine,
[1:00:04]
qui en feraient leur gagnait,
[1:00:05]
leur gagne-pain, ils feraient
[1:00:07]
des ventes de garage. Mais il y
[1:00:08]
a une limite. On ne peut pas en
[1:00:10]
faire plus que deux. Là-dedans,
[1:00:13]
il n'y a pas de limite sur les
[1:00:14]
événements spéciaux. Ça, ça veut
[1:00:16]
dire qu'il y a un port qui peut
[1:00:18]
décider des demandes et des
[1:00:20]
événements spéciaux à toutes les
[1:00:21]
fins semaines de l'été, il n'y a
[1:00:22]
pas de limite. Alors, ça, c'est
[1:00:24]
la première chose à laquelle
[1:00:25]
j'aimerais vous interpeller pour
[1:00:28]
(---)
[1:00:29]
pendant que vous faites les
[1:00:30]
petites modifications concernant
[1:00:32]
l'architecture des terrasses.
[1:00:33]
Peut-être que vous pourriez en
[1:00:34]
même temps réfléchir à l'idée de
[1:00:35]
dire que s'il y a des événements
[1:00:37]
spéciaux, combien d'événements
[1:00:39]
spéciaux est-ce qu'un bar, un
[1:00:40]
club, ou n'importe quelle place
[1:00:42]
peut faire dans une été. Il y a
[1:00:44]
une limite, s'il vous plaît.
[1:00:46]
Deuxième chose, il n'y a pas
[1:00:49]
seulement la quantité, mais il a
[1:00:51]
la force du bruit, le son, la
[1:00:55]
puissance du son. Dans toutes
[1:00:56]
les communautés du West Island,
[1:00:58]
il y a des limites de son. 40
[1:01:01]
décibels, 50 décibels,
[1:01:03]
dépendant, Kirkland,
[1:01:05]
Pierrefonds, je ne le sais pas.
[1:01:08]
Ici, jamais vous parler du son.
[1:01:11]
Jamais ce règlement ne concerne
[1:01:14]
la quantité de son. Ça peut
[1:01:17]
aller jusqu'à 100 décibels, je
[1:01:18]
le sais, j'ai vécu l'expérience,
[1:01:20]
j'étais un voisin d'un bord. Je
[1:01:21]
suis voisin d'un bar qui, lui,
[1:01:23]
ne se gêne pas pour mettre les
[1:01:26]
sécure dans le tapis. C'est
[1:01:30]
intolérable, et la société, si
[1:01:31]
vous voulez, la sécurité
[1:01:34]
publique, ils sont tannés de
[1:01:35]
recevoir des plaintes et des
[1:01:36]
plaintes, et des plaintes. C'est
[1:01:38]
trop fort! Pourquoi est-ce que,
[1:01:43]
contrairement à toutes les
[1:01:44]
autres villes, vous ne
[1:01:45]
réfléchissez pas à une limite de
[1:01:48]
son concernant les événements
[1:01:50]
spéciaux. C'est deux choses,
[1:01:52]
deux points, que je retrouve
[1:01:54]
pas, ici. Que je ne retrouve pas
[1:01:56]
ce soir. Le son, la force du
[1:02:00]
son, la quantité de décibels,
[1:02:02]
qui me semble qu'il devrait y
[1:02:04]
avoir une limite, parce qu'à
[1:02:06]
Dorval, ils n'ont pas besoin
[1:02:07]
d'entendre ça., Et, en même
[1:02:11]
temps, la fréquence des
[1:02:12]
événements spéciaux. Les espèces
[1:02:14]
de party! J'aimerais ça, si vous
[1:02:17]
plaît, que vous vous posez la
[1:02:19]
question, est-ce que vous avez
[1:02:20]
pensé à ça? Est-ce qu'il va se
[1:02:21]
passer quelque chose à ce sujet?
[1:02:24]
- Oui, je pense qu'on a des lois
[1:02:26]
contre le bruit. Don't we have
[1:02:30]
noise limits in our nuisance
[1:02:32]
bylaw? Do we not?
[1:02:34]
- Dans le fond, monsieur Dubuc,
[1:02:35]
la façon dont on voulait
[1:02:36]
adresser cette situation-là pour
[1:02:37]
les terrasses, c'est qu'on
[1:02:38]
pallier cette ligne-là avec
[1:02:39]
notre règlement de nuisance.
[1:02:41]
Vous allez voir, je discutais
[1:02:43]
avec
[1:02:44]
(---)
[1:02:45]
, à partir du mois d'avril, une
[1:02:46]
adoption d'un changement dans
[1:02:47]
les règlements de nuisance, ou
[1:02:48]
qu'on va venir adresser ces
[1:02:51]
sections-là, et parce que le
[1:02:52]
bruit, on ne va pas seulement le
[1:02:53]
gérer pour les terrasses, mais
[1:02:54]
aussi pour l'ensemble de la
[1:02:55]
ville, dans le fond.
[1:02:58]
- Si vous permettez, Madame
[1:03:00]
Verdon, monsieur Dubuc. Dans le
[1:03:01]
règlement de nuisance, je vous
[1:03:03]
invite à les voir. J'ai sous les
[1:03:05]
yeux présentement. Attendez un
[1:03:07]
instant. J'imagine que vous avez
[1:03:09]
consulté le règlement de zonage
[1:03:10]
avec les modifications pour le
[1:03:12]
zonage pour les terrasses, mais
[1:03:13]
vous n'avez pas regardé le
[1:03:14]
règlement de nuisance?
[1:03:17]
- Je ne l'ai lu au complet, et
[1:03:19]
jamais il y a été question de
[1:03:22]
décibels ou jamais il a été
[1:03:24]
question de fréquence des
[1:03:26]
événements spéciaux.
[1:03:28]
- Il n'y a pas de fréquence.
[1:03:30]
Nous avons des dispositions
[1:03:33]
concernant le fait de causer, de
[1:03:36]
permettre de mettre un bruit
[1:03:37]
entre 23 heures et 7 heures le
[1:03:41]
matin, du bruit qui incommodent
[1:03:42]
le voisinage. Ça, c'est interdit
[1:03:44]
par le règlement.
[1:03:46]
- Ça date du maire Arthur
[1:03:49]
Séguin.
[1:03:50]
- Oui, ça date. Mais c'est quand
[1:03:51]
même des dispositions qui
[1:03:52]
actuellement sont applicables,
[1:03:53]
et même appliquées quand il y a
[1:03:55]
des plaintes de la Sécurité
[1:03:56]
publique., Alors soyez informés
[1:03:57]
que ça existe. The en moins, on
[1:03:59]
a des questions de décibels,
[1:04:01]
juste terminer et ensuite je
[1:04:02]
vous le saluer. Pour les
[1:04:04]
questions de décibels, il y a
[1:04:05]
dans le règlement de nuisance un
[1:04:08]
nombre de décibels, 50 décibels
[1:04:10]
entre 21 heures et 7 heures, et
[1:04:12]
60 décibels entre 60 et 21
[1:04:14]
heures. Ça ne correspond pas
[1:04:16]
nécessairement à votre demande,
[1:04:18]
ça concerne uniquement les
[1:04:20]
appareils de type thermopompes.
[1:04:22]
Alors, on a la disposition. Mais
[1:04:24]
il n'y a rien qui empêche, qu'on
[1:04:25]
a travaillé le règlement des
[1:04:27]
terrasses, monsieur Dubuc,
[1:04:29]
monter parfaitement a été
[1:04:31]
interpellée pour s'assurer qu'il
[1:04:32]
y avait une cohérence entre la
[1:04:34]
volonté qu'on avait pour
[1:04:36]
réglementer les terrasses dans
[1:04:37]
les règlements d'urbanisme, pour
[1:04:39]
s'assurer que le règlement de
[1:04:42]
nuisance à laisser de façon
[1:04:43]
cohérente. Alors, c'est
[1:04:45]
exactement ce que madame Verdon
[1:04:46]
nous a mentionné. On va attacher
[1:04:48]
des dispositions du règlement de
[1:04:50]
nuisance. On va réviser le
[1:04:52]
règlement de nuisance pour voir
[1:04:53]
où est-ce qu'on doit intervenir,
[1:04:54]
pour justement couvrir le bruit
[1:04:57]
et le nombre d'événements, le
[1:05:00]
demandeur va être limitée à un
[1:05:01]
certain nombre d'événements
[1:05:03]
ponctuels dans l'été. On ne veut
[1:05:04]
pas nécessairement, et ça je
[1:05:05]
pense que ça avait été... je me
[1:05:07]
demande même s'ils n'avaient pas
[1:05:08]
été ajustés dans le nouveau...
[1:05:10]
ce que vous avez entre les
[1:05:11]
mains, est-ce que c'est le
[1:05:12]
premier projet de règlement?
[1:05:14]
C'est pas le règlement?
[1:05:15]
- J'ai essayé d'obtenir, il n'y
[1:05:17]
a rien de disponible.
[1:05:18]
- Le règlement de zonage, le
[1:05:20]
second projet qu'on adopte ce
[1:05:21]
soir et là. Et ça me surprend,
[1:05:24]
parce que j'étais vraiment sous
[1:05:26]
l'impression, attendez-moi un
[1:05:28]
instant, que nous avions oui les
[1:05:32]
discussions concernant les
[1:05:35]
limites qu'on doit... la limite
[1:05:39]
de fréquence des événements où
[1:05:40]
un propriétaire pourrait
[1:05:42]
dépenser les règles qui sont
[1:05:43]
mentionnés là-dedans. Mais si
[1:05:45]
vous permettez, ça va me faire
[1:05:47]
plaisir de vous donner plus de
[1:05:48]
renseignements dans les
[1:05:49]
prochains jours ou semaines, si
[1:05:52]
vous voulez me communiquer votre
[1:05:53]
adresse courriel. Ça va me faire
[1:05:55]
plaisir de vous donner plus de
[1:05:56]
renseignements. Mais soyez sans
[1:05:58]
crainte, les préoccupations que
[1:05:59]
vous avez là, elles ont été
[1:06:02]
adressées.
[1:06:03]
- Parce qu'en ce moment, je vous
[1:06:06]
vois en train de modifier
[1:06:10]
tranquillement les questions
[1:06:12]
architecturales. C'est très
[1:06:13]
clair. Vous allez voter ce soir.
[1:06:16]
Plein de petits amendements, la
[1:06:18]
quantité de personnes qui
[1:06:19]
peuvent avoir sur une terrasse,
[1:06:20]
de quoi ça a l'air, une
[1:06:22]
micro-terrasse, une plus grosse.
[1:06:24]
Je vois que vous essayez de
[1:06:25]
préciser des choses avec
[1:06:26]
beaucoup d'attention. De façon
[1:06:29]
carré... quasi chirurgicale!
[1:06:30]
Mais quand c'est le temps de
[1:06:32]
parler de quelque chose qui
[1:06:33]
embête une grande quantité de la
[1:06:35]
population, il n'y a rien.
[1:06:37]
- Mais, Monsieur Dubuc, c'est
[1:06:39]
que ce n'est pas dans la
[1:06:40]
réglementation de zonage de
[1:06:42]
construction que nous pouvons
[1:06:43]
régler les problèmes de
[1:06:45]
nuisance. Nous avons un
[1:06:46]
règlement pour cela. Alors, ma
[1:06:48]
suggestion était aux autres
[1:06:49]
équipes à la Ville, attendons
[1:06:51]
d'avoir des règlements
[1:06:52]
d'urbanisme modifiées pour
[1:06:55]
s'assurer que le conseil va
[1:06:57]
voter en faveur de ce
[1:06:58]
règlement-là. Une fois que cela
[1:07:00]
sera fait, on va venir
[1:07:01]
harmoniser le règlement de
[1:07:02]
nuisance pour s'assurer que les
[1:07:05]
nouvelles dispositions n'est pas
[1:07:06]
comme conséquence de créer des
[1:07:09]
nuisances, de nouvelles
[1:07:10]
nuisances, ou d'empirer des
[1:07:11]
nuisances existantes. Mais, il
[1:07:14]
faut quand même attendre que les
[1:07:15]
règlements soient adoptés, vous
[1:07:16]
en conviendrez avec moi.
[1:07:17]
- Est-ce que vous pouvez me
[1:07:18]
donner une idée de votre
[1:07:20]
calendrier pour ces
[1:07:21]
modifications?
[1:07:22]
- Comme madame Verdon l'a dit.
[1:07:23]
Ce, soir on adopte le second
[1:07:25]
projet pour le règlement de
[1:07:26]
zonage, mais en avril, on va
[1:07:27]
amorcer la procédure pour la
[1:07:30]
modification des nuisances, le
[1:07:31]
cas échéant. Donc, il y aura un
[1:07:33]
avis de motion est un projet. Et
[1:07:34]
l'adoption du règlement de
[1:07:35]
nuisance sera fait pour mes.
[1:07:37]
Alors, l'idée, c'est d'avoir
[1:07:38]
quelque chose de final, si
[1:07:40]
besoin avait de changer le
[1:07:41]
règlement de nuisance, pour la
[1:07:43]
prochaine saison estivale.
[1:07:45]
- Pour celles du mois de mai?
[1:07:47]
- Idéalement. Dans le meilleur
[1:07:50]
des mondes. Un règlement adopté
[1:07:52]
pour mes.
[1:07:53]
- O.K.! J'espère que vous
[1:07:55]
comprenez la raison pour
[1:07:56]
laquelle je suis là.
[1:07:57]
- Je suis... je comprends
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parfaitement, mais vous n'êtes
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pas le seul citoyen à avoir
[1:08:02]
adressé la situation. Ces
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préoccupations. Là
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- Merci beaucoup.
[1:08:12]
>> Maria --? Did I get that
[1:08:16]
right, Maria? Okay.
[1:08:21]
>> I am here -- good evening. I
[1:08:23]
am here to ask a question
[1:08:28]
regarding in the flooding
[1:08:29]
incident of last weekend which
[1:08:32]
took place on long meadow. Okay?
[1:08:36]
But I would first of all like to
[1:08:40]
thank publicly the fire
[1:08:45]
department, public security,
[1:08:47]
including the group of
[1:08:49]
volunteers, I think they are
[1:08:51]
from rescue something rather.
[1:08:52]
>> Volunteer rescue, absolutely.
[1:08:54]
>> They were fantastic. They
[1:08:56]
held us up for those crazy 48
[1:08:58]
hours and believe me it was
[1:09:00]
crazy. When our sub pump it was
[1:09:03]
flooded, inundated, by the ditch
[1:09:06]
that separates the western side
[1:09:08]
of long meadow from the golf
[1:09:10]
course. We were at 102 long
[1:09:14]
meadow. We were one of four
[1:09:16]
houses at least that were
[1:09:18]
affected. Thankfully with all
[1:09:20]
these people that were involved
[1:09:22]
we were able to contain the
[1:09:24]
flooding within our house to the
[1:09:27]
supplement it. Right? We could
[1:09:31]
not -- our yard was minimally
[1:09:33]
flooded, although our neighbours
[1:09:35]
down the road had quite the
[1:09:38]
adventure in their basement. It
[1:09:39]
was flooded. I also appreciate
[1:09:44]
the rapid response from my city
[1:09:46]
council person and from the city
[1:09:51]
manager delineating the measures
[1:09:54]
that were taken including
[1:09:58]
addressing the debris left in
[1:10:00]
the ditch by Hydro Québec when
[1:10:03]
they trimmed the trees. It
[1:10:05]
blocks the flow of water. Also,
[1:10:08]
the golf course which apparently
[1:10:10]
at this time assumes
[1:10:13]
responsibility for leaving a
[1:10:14]
flap open. You know, we are
[1:10:18]
dealing with our insurance. They
[1:10:21]
told us, go ahead, deal with
[1:10:23]
your insurance. We will take
[1:10:24]
that responsibility. It does not
[1:10:27]
reassure us though that this
[1:10:30]
won't happen again. This is the
[1:10:32]
second event. I have been at
[1:10:35]
that house with my husband,
[1:10:36]
Jonathan McLelland, for 23
[1:10:38]
years. I think we have done all
[1:10:40]
we could. We are on a high water
[1:10:44]
table, we know that. We have
[1:10:45]
three some pumps. We have flood
[1:10:47]
sensors. We have a Generac
[1:10:50]
because the power goes off in
[1:10:51]
that area very often. We are
[1:10:54]
covered. I cannot build a wall
[1:10:58]
protecting my property from that
[1:11:00]
ditch. Right? No, I am assuming,
[1:11:06]
we have asked over the years, at
[1:11:08]
least 23 years we have been
[1:11:09]
there, we have asked for permits
[1:11:10]
from the City at least four
[1:11:12]
times if not five, and every
[1:11:15]
time front stairs, driveway,
[1:11:17]
propane tank, generator, it
[1:11:18]
centre. The city sends
[1:11:21]
representatives to see if we are
[1:11:23]
being negligent. Are we
[1:11:25]
respecting what we said our
[1:11:27]
permit was about? After the job
[1:11:30]
is done, to check that, you
[1:11:33]
know, you need to cover your
[1:11:34]
propane tank more, et cetera.
[1:11:36]
That is an example. My question
[1:11:40]
is, I'm assuming the City
[1:11:43]
authorized the permits that were
[1:11:45]
given to the Beaconsfield golf
[1:11:48]
course to assume all of that
[1:11:50]
drainage work that they have
[1:11:51]
been doing since last summer. Is
[1:11:55]
the city -- can the city
[1:11:58]
reassure me that the same
[1:11:59]
mechanism that is used for the
[1:12:00]
private citizen, to follow up on
[1:12:05]
the permits that we have been
[1:12:06]
authorized, is the same
[1:12:07]
mechanism in place to ensure
[1:12:10]
that the work is being done?
[1:12:13]
>> It's an excellent question.
[1:12:14]
We have a similar struggle on
[1:12:18]
Austin. It is flooded regularly
[1:12:19]
in a similar manner. Do we have
[1:12:22]
a guarantee of control over the
[1:12:24]
golf course so that we can have
[1:12:27]
repeated events of this kind of
[1:12:29]
thing?
[1:12:30]
>> Unfortunately, this is a
[1:12:33]
tribunal matter between the golf
[1:12:34]
course. But, yes, the golf
[1:12:36]
course has permits and stuff
[1:12:37]
like that, then we have the same
[1:12:38]
process that we have for regular
[1:12:40]
citizens.
[1:12:41]
>> Are you checking that process
[1:12:43]
because obviously this is the
[1:12:44]
second time that that ditch
[1:12:48]
apparently, and it has never
[1:12:49]
happened before they began the
[1:12:51]
drainage work, but this is
[1:12:52]
happened. So this is a new
[1:12:54]
event, a new type of situation,
[1:12:59]
and I would like the City to
[1:13:00]
assure me that -- there is
[1:13:06]
nothing else I can add. If even
[1:13:11]
my sump pump is organized
[1:13:13]
properly, and it is, it will not
[1:13:15]
prevent my yard from flooding.
[1:13:18]
Do I need to put sandbags
[1:13:19]
against my patio door? You know
[1:13:22]
those homes are split level.
[1:13:24]
There is a street level. The
[1:13:28]
water will come right in through
[1:13:29]
that patio door and the basement
[1:13:31]
windows on the side. There is
[1:13:34]
nothing else. There's nothing
[1:13:36]
else we as private citizens can
[1:13:37]
do. That is what I would like
[1:13:38]
some reassurance from the city
[1:13:40]
that you are following up that
[1:13:41]
work.
[1:13:42]
>> Well, I know someone in the
[1:13:44]
room who barricades their house
[1:13:45]
every year. It does untold --
[1:13:49]
yeah. Yeah. And I have been to
[1:13:51]
visit Stephanie's house. It is
[1:13:53]
an issue. We've got to do
[1:13:55]
something. I agree. I think,
[1:13:58]
from what my DG, Madame Verdun
[1:14:01]
is saying, it's that there's
[1:14:03]
litigation going on right now.
[1:14:04]
So we cannot speak on it
[1:14:06]
specifically on our part.
[1:14:07]
>> Okay.
[1:14:08]
>> Is there litigation?
[1:14:09]
>> No. It's because these two
[1:14:12]
private citizens, the golf
[1:14:13]
course and the citizens, so it's
[1:14:15]
not something that the City will
[1:14:17]
interfere between two citizens.
[1:14:19]
But if we had some work that the
[1:14:23]
golf course has to do, the City
[1:14:26]
will for sure follow-up with
[1:14:28]
them.
[1:14:29]
>> I'm asking you to do that
[1:14:30]
because I cannot go there. The
[1:14:33]
person from the golf course was
[1:14:35]
very friendly. They say climate
[1:14:37]
with your insurance. I will do
[1:14:39]
that, but I cannot go there and
[1:14:41]
supervise that they are
[1:14:44]
respecting the permit that they
[1:14:46]
requested. You know? The City
[1:14:49]
has a responsibility, I believe,
[1:14:53]
as I have a responsibility as a
[1:14:55]
private citizen when I ask for a
[1:14:57]
permit to make sure that I
[1:14:58]
follow what the permit is that I
[1:15:01]
requested.
[1:15:02]
>> If they are requesting a
[1:15:04]
permit for work, we will follow
[1:15:06]
the permit.
[1:15:07]
>> Are you saying that you are
[1:15:08]
not sure if they have?
[1:15:10]
>> Right now, I don't know. I
[1:15:14]
don't know the permits in place
[1:15:15]
for all citizens in
[1:15:16]
Pointe-Claire. I'm not sure --
[1:15:19]
>> Because it's a humongous job
[1:15:21]
that they've been doing since
[1:15:23]
last summer. Anyone who lives in
[1:15:25]
the area knows that it's a
[1:15:29]
tremendous amount of work. And I
[1:15:31]
would assume that they would
[1:15:33]
need to request something from
[1:15:35]
this city which may have an
[1:15:37]
environmental impact. So I'm not
[1:15:43]
clear on what you are saying.
[1:15:47]
>> I don't know all the permits
[1:15:49]
that people are requesting right
[1:15:51]
now. This is a private matter. I
[1:15:52]
think it would be better for you
[1:15:53]
to contact me tomorrow and we
[1:15:54]
will look at it.
[1:15:57]
>> So that's it? To contact you
[1:16:00]
directly?
[1:16:01]
>> Exactly. Because I do not
[1:16:03]
have all the
[1:16:05]
[Inaudible]
[1:16:06]
With me.
[1:16:07]
>> We can certainly look into it
[1:16:08]
by all means, since it. What are
[1:16:09]
the environmental standards have
[1:16:10]
been respected and if they are
[1:16:13]
breaching city law. We can look
[1:16:15]
into that for sure. Absolutely.
[1:16:16]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:16:17]
>> We have a similar situation
[1:16:20]
on Austin every summer. Okay.
[1:16:21]
>> Thank you.
[1:16:23]
>> Jonathan McLelland?
[1:16:31]
>> Hi. I will be quick. My wife
[1:16:33]
just spoke and she mentioned
[1:16:34]
what I wanted to say. It appears
[1:16:37]
I am living in a flood zone. It
[1:16:39]
has been two floods in six
[1:16:41]
months. I just wanted to say how
[1:16:43]
much we appreciate Pointe-Claire
[1:16:47]
rescue and all of their efforts.
[1:16:49]
They brought us eight pump. My
[1:16:53]
question is around -- I
[1:16:54]
understand they are volunteers
[1:16:56]
through the fire department. I
[1:16:58]
want to know what is the city
[1:17:01]
doing to properly reconvince
[1:17:04]
these people?
[1:17:05]
[Laughter]
[1:17:07]
>> I guess they are not paid,
[1:17:09]
but I thought just off the top
[1:17:10]
of my head they could get a
[1:17:12]
break on taxes?
[1:17:13]
>> They get great toys, the best
[1:17:15]
ways they can put their hands
[1:17:16]
on.
[1:17:17]
[Laughter]
[1:17:18]
>> But seriously, to depend on
[1:17:19]
volunteers. This is a crisis
[1:17:20]
situation we had for 72 hours.
[1:17:21]
Without them my house would be
[1:17:23]
flooded. At least four other
[1:17:24]
houses on Longmeadow. It's a lot
[1:17:27]
of money.
[1:17:28]
>> Yep.
[1:17:30]
>> It's costing. That is my
[1:17:33]
question.
[1:17:34]
>> It's a great question.
[1:17:35]
>> Could the city do more?
[1:17:38]
>> Well, that's a good question.
[1:17:40]
These are excellent questions.
[1:17:42]
My first term, my first time in,
[1:17:44]
I went and watched the flooding
[1:17:46]
on Austin. Phone to rescue must
[1:17:48]
have been there for four or five
[1:17:50]
days with pumps going nonstop.
[1:17:52]
They saved six or seven houses.
[1:17:54]
>> You call them and the answer.
[1:17:55]
>> They are unbelievable. They
[1:17:57]
are our guardian angels. They
[1:17:59]
are absolutely our guardian
[1:18:00]
angels. I want to speak to -- I
[1:18:03]
mean, Mr. Tanguay can speak to
[1:18:04]
this more specifically, but it's
[1:18:06]
public security that I think --
[1:18:08]
that looks after. Volunteer
[1:18:10]
security is -- not the fire
[1:18:13]
department.
[1:18:14]
>> Not the fire department?
[1:18:15]
>> No, Pointe-Claire Public
[1:18:16]
Security. We value them
[1:18:18]
immensely. We do give them the
[1:18:20]
best equipment we can possibly
[1:18:21]
give them whenever we can
[1:18:23]
because they are a gift from
[1:18:24]
heaven. So we do try our best to
[1:18:25]
keep them happy. I don't know, I
[1:18:27]
think they are volunteer rescue.
[1:18:29]
Is there remuneration in any
[1:18:31]
way, shape or form? I don't
[1:18:32]
think. So
[1:18:33]
>> It's all voluntary.
[1:18:34]
>> They are all volunteers. Our
[1:18:37]
job, which I think we do fairly
[1:18:38]
well, is to try and give them
[1:18:39]
the right equipment to do what
[1:18:40]
they have to do.
[1:18:41]
>> Okay. If I was part of
[1:18:43]
Council I would suggest that in
[1:18:45]
the budget, that there's at
[1:18:46]
least a Christmas bonus or
[1:18:48]
something because they deserve
[1:18:49]
it.
[1:18:50]
[Laughter]
[1:18:51]
Thank you.
[1:18:52]
>> There is a Christmas party.
[1:18:53]
>> There is a Christmas party!
[1:18:56]
We value them immensely.
[1:18:58]
>> You guys get drunk and they
[1:19:00]
watch.
[1:19:01]
>> No, no.
[1:19:02]
[Laughter]
[1:19:03]
All right, --.
[1:19:11]
>> First, I just wanted to
[1:19:14]
mention something just off the
[1:19:18]
cuff about your remarks about
[1:19:20]
Brent Cowan. My understanding, I
[1:19:22]
could be confused, but my
[1:19:24]
understanding is that the Agglo
[1:19:26]
and the CMM are two separate
[1:19:28]
political organizations. So, it
[1:19:33]
could be that the mayor has a
[1:19:35]
seat on a committee on one and
[1:19:37]
the CMM, the other, has a freeze
[1:19:39]
on the Fairview forest. But they
[1:19:41]
are two separate political
[1:19:43]
bodies.
[1:19:44]
>> The Agglo -- the CMF and put
[1:19:46]
a freeze at the Agglo put a
[1:19:48]
freeze and we put a freeze.
[1:19:49]
There are three. Yes, they are
[1:19:52]
separate, but they are all
[1:19:53]
related. The mayor of Montréal
[1:19:54]
sort of has a vice grip on both
[1:19:56]
the CMM and the Agglo.
[1:19:59]
>> Yeah. But essentially what
[1:20:02]
happens first in terms of the
[1:20:05]
payment of the CMM, then it has
[1:20:08]
consequences. Hydro studies, for
[1:20:10]
example, by the agglomeration
[1:20:11]
and someone. So there is that
[1:20:12]
kind of collaboration, but they
[1:20:14]
are separate organizations. And
[1:20:16]
in with, just off the top --
[1:20:17]
>> Also, just to state, unless I
[1:20:20]
have been misinformed, I believe
[1:20:21]
there are two. It is CMM and the
[1:20:25]
City of Pointe-Claire that have
[1:20:26]
freezes on. I am unaware of an
[1:20:28]
egg will freeze.
[1:20:29]
>> First I've heard of it also.
[1:20:30]
I would love to learn more. It's
[1:20:32]
interesting.
[1:20:34]
>> Anyhow. You have a question?
[1:20:37]
>> Yes. The other thing I want
[1:20:38]
to say is, again off the cuff,
[1:20:42]
but it is so exhausting to
[1:20:44]
listen to you guys played. It is
[1:20:47]
so tiring. You know, I'm even
[1:20:51]
getting emotional about it
[1:20:52]
because it has been years now
[1:20:53]
that we are trying to do
[1:20:55]
something for Fairview forest.
[1:20:58]
And I'm afraid it's going to
[1:20:59]
fall victim not to a real valid
[1:21:04]
reason why it can be saved, but
[1:21:06]
because of some political
[1:21:07]
football. It's going to suffer
[1:21:11]
the same way the windmill does
[1:21:13]
or anything else you guys are
[1:21:14]
going to fight about. And you've
[1:21:16]
got to find some way, even
[1:21:17]
though there's not a lot of time
[1:21:19]
left in your term, and you are
[1:21:20]
already getting into electoral
[1:21:22]
politics, but you've got to find
[1:21:23]
some way -- you don't have to
[1:21:25]
like each other, but you have to
[1:21:27]
work together. It's like
[1:21:29]
Pointe-Claire is a microcosm of
[1:21:30]
what is happening in politics
[1:21:32]
everywhere. And the citizens are
[1:21:34]
the victims here. Things like
[1:21:36]
Fairview forest are the victims.
[1:21:40]
It's exhausting. It really is. I
[1:21:42]
say that on the bottom of my
[1:21:43]
heart. Okay. I wanted to give
[1:21:48]
City Council a heads up on
[1:21:50]
recent awards. The mayor stole
[1:21:53]
my under. Two recent awards
[1:21:56]
given to two members of safe
[1:21:58]
Fairview forest. The
[1:22:00]
organization, for those who
[1:22:01]
don't know, save Fairview forest
[1:22:03]
is a nonprofit community
[1:22:05]
organization. It's 100% totally
[1:22:07]
run by unpaid volunteers. There
[1:22:10]
are people who worked tirelessly
[1:22:12]
and selflessly and with a lot of
[1:22:15]
dedication to saving
[1:22:16]
Pointe-Claire's last substantial
[1:22:19]
unprotected forest. So, two
[1:22:22]
members of safety forest
[1:22:24]
Organization were recently made
[1:22:26]
recipients of the king Charles
[1:22:27]
third coronation metal. This
[1:22:31]
medal is awarded to Canadians
[1:22:32]
who have made a significant
[1:22:34]
contribution to any particular
[1:22:36]
province, territory or region,
[1:22:37]
or community of Canada. So the
[1:22:40]
first one is already spoken
[1:22:42]
today. Someone who I'm so proud
[1:22:44]
to know personally, she let
[1:22:46]
Larsen. She is a king Charles
[1:22:47]
medalists and a member of safe
[1:22:49]
Fairview forest. She is a
[1:22:50]
dedicated active member of the
[1:22:51]
forest and I see here most
[1:22:54]
Saturdays, even in the most
[1:22:55]
blowing and freezing of weather
[1:22:57]
conditions, standing vigilant
[1:23:00]
for Fairview forest and our
[1:23:02]
weekly demonstrations. I also
[1:23:03]
know her very fondly as raging a
[1:23:05]
granny. She is a member of
[1:23:08]
countless boards here in
[1:23:09]
Pointe-Claire and community
[1:23:11]
groups. She also sits on the
[1:23:12]
City of Pointe-Claire's
[1:23:14]
environment and sustainable
[1:23:15]
development advisory committee.
[1:23:17]
The second one, Jan Lucia, is
[1:23:21]
also a member and president of
[1:23:23]
safe Fairview forest. She is now
[1:23:25]
also a king Charles medalists.
[1:23:27]
And Francis Scarpaleggia who
[1:23:30]
awarded her the medal described
[1:23:31]
her as follows. Jen is one of
[1:23:34]
the most civic minded and
[1:23:36]
engaged citizens I know. She is
[1:23:38]
deeply committed to her
[1:23:39]
Pointe-Claire community and its
[1:23:41]
quality of life, as well as to
[1:23:43]
the broader issues of local and
[1:23:45]
global environmental protection.
[1:23:48]
Among the many recognized
[1:23:50]
commitments, Jen received the
[1:23:51]
king Charles award for was her
[1:23:53]
work advocating for Fairview
[1:23:56]
forest and also her work for
[1:23:57]
bread basket and the
[1:23:58]
Pointe-Claire environment and
[1:24:00]
sustainable development
[1:24:01]
committee. So I think they are
[1:24:04]
well deserved and I can
[1:24:05]
personally attest to their
[1:24:07]
incredible contributions they
[1:24:08]
make to Pointe-Claire. So I just
[1:24:10]
had to get that in. Sorry. So my
[1:24:13]
question, at a recent city
[1:24:14]
council meeting and a resolution
[1:24:15]
was passed, and I know you guys
[1:24:17]
may had lots of problems is
[1:24:19]
before you got a final
[1:24:21]
resolution, asking the city
[1:24:22]
administration to furnish
[1:24:24]
Councillors with more
[1:24:25]
information of the various
[1:24:27]
aspects of the law and the
[1:24:29]
conditions needed and the
[1:24:33]
consideration and requiring --
[1:24:35]
acquiring Fairview forest. One
[1:24:36]
of the steps taken in that
[1:24:37]
regard is a call for tenders to
[1:24:38]
have an eco systemic study done
[1:24:40]
on Fairview forest. So I would
[1:24:45]
like to know if the contract has
[1:24:48]
been awarded to be company it.
[1:24:53]
Secondly, part of the same
[1:24:54]
question, can we please receive
[1:24:55]
the parameters asked to be
[1:24:58]
studied in the contract? So,
[1:24:59]
what exactly are they going to
[1:25:02]
be studying? In eco systematic
[1:25:04]
study is a very broad term and
[1:25:05]
it can mean so many different
[1:25:07]
things. Second question, has the
[1:25:09]
city taken notice of and applied
[1:25:12]
to or considered receiving
[1:25:15]
funding under the new Canada
[1:25:17]
Québec agreement to protect and
[1:25:19]
conserve nature, with up to 100
[1:25:22]
million dollars of new money?
[1:25:26]
>> That is in your wheelhouse,
[1:25:28]
Jill. You want to take a stab at
[1:25:30]
that one? Particularly the first
[1:25:36]
part of the question.
[1:25:38]
>> With respect to the eco
[1:25:40]
systemic study. Essentially, the
[1:25:43]
contract has not been awarded
[1:25:44]
yep. Stay tuned basically. With
[1:25:50]
respect to the content of the
[1:25:52]
study itself, the study looks
[1:25:54]
at, and I will paraphrase a bit,
[1:25:57]
it looks at how the environment
[1:25:59]
essentially the natural
[1:26:01]
Infrastructure Services our
[1:26:03]
natural environment. In essence,
[1:26:07]
it looks at the sequestration of
[1:26:13]
carbon. It looks at how our
[1:26:14]
green spaces essentially
[1:26:17]
contribute to the rain water
[1:26:21]
management, so on and so forth.
[1:26:23]
It looks at various criteria
[1:26:24]
that are looked at. It's for the
[1:26:26]
entire territory of the City of
[1:26:27]
Pointe-Claire but the studies
[1:26:28]
being done.
[1:26:30]
>> All right. Are those
[1:26:32]
parameters available for the
[1:26:34]
public?
[1:26:40]
>> Through the access to
[1:26:43]
information, it will be -- no?
[1:26:45]
[Inaudible]
[1:26:50]
>> Once the contract is awarded,
[1:26:51]
it will be accessible. --
[1:26:54]
>> If I may just comment as
[1:26:56]
well? The tender process has
[1:26:58]
finished, but now it has to go
[1:26:59]
in front of the selection
[1:27:00]
committee to actually finalized
[1:27:02]
this election along with the
[1:27:04]
parameters as I understand it.
[1:27:06]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:27:08]
>> Thank you. Stephanie Myers?
[1:27:12]
You are done? Keep it rolling?
[1:27:14]
Okay. Was it about the golf
[1:27:15]
course? Okay. I visited Miss
[1:27:19]
Myers's house and every year she
[1:27:21]
has to protect her home from
[1:27:23]
flooding. She works at it
[1:27:25]
nonstop, nonstop. Okay.
[1:27:32]
On est cinq points deux, je
[1:27:34]
pense?
[1:27:35]
- Cinq points, un déposé le
[1:27:37]
rapport concernant le registre
[1:27:39]
été tenu du 17 au 21 février
[1:27:40]
2025, relativement au Règlement
[1:27:41]
PC-2988. Qui était un règlement
[1:27:45]
d'emprunt pour la flotte de
[1:27:47]
500000 dollars,, et aucune
[1:27:51]
signature n'a été recueilli.
[1:27:55]
>> 5.2, Notice of motion and
[1:27:56]
filing of a draft by-law
[1:27:57]
amending Zoning By-law PC-2775
[1:27:58]
to clarify the application of
[1:27:59]
certain rules concerning the use
[1:28:02]
of specific lands located in
[1:28:04]
zones N2 and Cb9 when the
[1:28:05]
boundaries of such lands have
[1:28:07]
been modified by the
[1:28:08]
implementation and operation of
[1:28:10]
the Réseau Express Métropolitain
[1:28:12]
(R.E.M)
[1:28:13]
.. As part of the construction
[1:28:15]
operation of the of the Réseau
[1:28:19]
Express Métropolitain
[1:28:20]
(R.E.M)
[1:28:21]
., The boundaries of certain
[1:28:22]
zones in N2 and Cb9 were
[1:28:23]
affected by an exploration
[1:28:25]
procedure. This affected certain
[1:28:26]
buildings and imposed additional
[1:28:28]
constraints on the occupation
[1:28:29]
and sitting up the buildings,
[1:28:31]
the structures and construction
[1:28:32]
on set lots, and land affected
[1:28:34]
by the expropriation. The draft
[1:28:36]
bylaw aims to modulate the rules
[1:28:38]
governing the occupation land
[1:28:39]
and the sitting of the buildings
[1:28:41]
when 18th of servitude has been
[1:28:42]
assigned between the parties and
[1:28:43]
the City of Pointe-Claire as an
[1:28:46]
intervenor, and when this deed
[1:28:47]
has been published in the Québec
[1:28:48]
land registry. The bylaw
[1:28:50]
contains no provision subject to
[1:28:51]
the approval by way of a
[1:28:52]
referendum.
[1:28:54]
- 5.3. Avis de motion et dépôt
[1:28:56]
d'un projet de règlement
[1:28:57]
modifiant le Règlement PC-2787
[1:28:58]
sur les plans d'implantation et
[1:28:59]
d'intégration architecturale on
[1:29:00]
dans le but de supprimer
[1:29:04]
certaines dispositions en
[1:29:05]
matière de démolition à la suite
[1:29:06]
de l'adoption du nouveau
[1:29:07]
règlement sur la démolition des
[1:29:08]
immeubles, et de revoir la
[1:29:09]
terminologie associée à
[1:29:10]
l'intérêt patrimonial ainsi
[1:29:12]
qu'au caractère spécifique de
[1:29:13]
Pointe-Claire. Dans une
[1:29:14]
perspective d'efficacité, de
[1:29:16]
cohérence réglementaire, la
[1:29:17]
modification proposée vise à
[1:29:19]
retirer du règlement PC-2787
[1:29:21]
toutes les références à la
[1:29:23]
démolition d'immeubles, puisque
[1:29:24]
ces dernières seront dorénavant
[1:29:27]
régis par le Règlement PC-2787.
[1:29:30]
On agite les définitions
[1:29:32]
immeuble patrimonial et
[1:29:34]
bâtiments quant aux
[1:29:36]
caractérisation spécifiques de
[1:29:37]
Pointe-Claire. On
[1:29:38]
(---)
[1:29:39]
écrit dans les fiches de
[1:29:41]
caractérisation réalisé par le
[1:29:42]
groupe patriarche. Ces dernières
[1:29:43]
sont regroupées dans
[1:29:44]
l'inventaire patrimoniale étude
[1:29:46]
patrimoniale bâti de
[1:29:47]
l'arrondissement de
[1:29:48]
Pointe-Claire, publié en 2005.
[1:29:50]
Lequel contient plus de 160
[1:29:51]
fiches des cultive concernant
[1:29:52]
des bâtiments patrimoniaux, les
[1:29:55]
bâtiments reconnus pour leurs
[1:29:56]
intérêts au niveau architectural
[1:29:58]
et paysager contribue aussi à ce
[1:30:00]
caractère.
[1:30:03]
- Pour cinq points de cinq
[1:30:04]
points trois, un Who gives these
[1:30:05]
notices of motion? Do I have a
[1:30:07]
mover? Who gives them, yes.
[1:30:09]
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[1:30:12]
>> Thank you. 5.4, Adoption of a
[1:30:16]
first draft by-law amending
[1:30:17]
Zoning By-law PC-2775 to clarify
[1:30:20]
the application of certain rules
[1:30:21]
concerning the use of specific
[1:30:22]
lands located in zones N2 and
[1:30:25]
Cb9 when the boundaries of such
[1:30:26]
lands have been modified by the
[1:30:29]
implementation and operation of
[1:30:30]
the Réseau Express
[1:30:31]
Métropolitain.
[1:30:35]
>> 45.4, do I have a mover?
[1:30:37]
>> Brent Cowan, district number
[1:30:39]
eight.
[1:30:40]
>> Seconder?
[1:30:41]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:30:43]
>> All in favour?
[1:30:44]
>> Thank you.
[1:30:48]
- 5.5. Adoption d'un premier
[1:30:49]
projet de règlement modifiant le
[1:30:50]
Règlement PC-2787 sur les plans
[1:30:51]
d'implantation et d'intégration
[1:30:52]
architecturale dans le but de
[1:30:53]
supprimer certaines dispositions
[1:30:54]
en matière de démolition à la
[1:30:55]
suite de l'adoption du nouveau
[1:30:56]
règlement sur la démolition des
[1:30:57]
immeubles, et de revoir la
[1:30:59]
terminologie associée à
[1:31:00]
l'intérêt patrimonial ainsi
[1:31:01]
qu'au caractère spécifique de
[1:31:02]
Pointe-Claire. 5.6, Adoption
[1:31:07]
with modifications,, of a second
[1:31:12]
draft by-law amending Zoning
[1:31:13]
By-law PC-2775 to clarify
[1:31:14]
definitions related to terrace
[1:31:15]
and garden structures, and to
[1:31:16]
frame the development and
[1:31:21]
operation of commercial terraces
[1:31:22]
and microterraces. The second
[1:31:25]
draft bylaw differs from the
[1:31:26]
first draft adopted on January
[1:31:27]
14th 2025. The main change is
[1:31:30]
concerned the following. The
[1:31:31]
addition of a definition to
[1:31:33]
clarify the concept of that
[1:31:35]
music. Some definitions have
[1:31:36]
been reviewed and corrected to
[1:31:37]
simplify them or facilitate
[1:31:38]
their understanding. Setback
[1:31:41]
distances have been added to
[1:31:42]
protect the tranquillity of
[1:31:43]
areas where the predominant
[1:31:45]
permitted uses residential.
[1:31:47]
Clarifications have been added
[1:31:48]
to facilitate coexistence
[1:31:51]
between two adjacent
[1:31:53]
establishments. Heating
[1:31:54]
appliances powered by
[1:31:55]
electricity have been added to
[1:31:56]
the list of authorized
[1:31:57]
equipments. Clarifications
[1:31:58]
regarding universal
[1:31:59]
accessibility have been
[1:32:00]
introduced. Regulation of
[1:32:02]
musical and cultural
[1:32:03]
performances, with or without
[1:32:04]
sound application. A calculation
[1:32:07]
method for determining the
[1:32:08]
minimum and maximum area of a
[1:32:09]
commercial terrasse has been
[1:32:11]
added. Clarifications to specify
[1:32:13]
that a terrasse can be divided
[1:32:14]
into several zones have been
[1:32:16]
added. The operating hours of
[1:32:19]
tourists is
[1:32:20]
(applause)
[1:32:21]
The operating hours of interest
[1:32:22]
have been reviewed and certain
[1:32:23]
provisions are subject to the
[1:32:25]
referendum approval process. A
[1:32:26]
notice will be published on the
[1:32:27]
City's website identifying the
[1:32:28]
zones concerned on the way in
[1:32:29]
which qualified voters may apply
[1:32:31]
to have a register opened, as
[1:32:32]
well as the number of signatures
[1:32:34]
required for a referendum to be
[1:32:35]
held.
[1:32:38]
- 5.7. Adoption avec
[1:32:39]
modifications d'un règlement
[1:32:40]
modifiant le Règlement de
[1:32:41]
construction PC-2786 concernant
[1:32:42]
le calcul de la capacité
[1:32:44]
d'accueil de même que les règles
[1:32:46]
relatives à l'aménagement d'une
[1:32:47]
structure au-dessus d'une
[1:32:48]
terrasse commerciale. Le
[1:32:50]
règlement est différent du
[1:32:51]
projet de règlement adoptée le
[1:32:52]
14 janvier dernier, puisqu'un
[1:32:54]
nouveau chapitre est situé
[1:32:56]
exigences relatives à
[1:32:57]
l'adaptation de bâtiments pour
[1:32:58]
parcours sans obstacles a été
[1:33:00]
ajouté au Règlement de
[1:33:03]
construction PC-2786. Cette
[1:33:04]
modification vise à répondre à
[1:33:05]
une demande reçue concernant à
[1:33:07]
l'accessibilité des terrasses
[1:33:08]
qu'ils établissement est
[1:33:10]
associé. Les autres
[1:33:11]
modifications effectuées ne
[1:33:12]
change pas en substance les
[1:33:13]
dispositions réglementaires.
[1:33:14]
Elle concerne l'ajout de
[1:33:16]
précision de clarification dans
[1:33:17]
le but de faciliter
[1:33:18]
l'application réglementaire du
[1:33:20]
Règlement.
[1:33:22]
>> 5.8, Adoption with
[1:33:23]
modifications of a by-law
[1:33:24]
amending Site Planning and
[1:33:26]
Architectural Integration
[1:33:27]
Programme By-law PC-2787 in
[1:33:29]
order to regulate commercial
[1:33:30]
terraces. The bylaw is slightly
[1:33:33]
different from the one adopted
[1:33:34]
on January 14th. However, the
[1:33:36]
essence of the draft bylaw
[1:33:37]
presented on January 20th
[1:33:38]
remains unchanged. The main
[1:33:40]
changes consist in simplifying
[1:33:42]
certain provisions, eliminating
[1:33:44]
redundancies, and adding
[1:33:46]
clarification to facilitate the
[1:33:47]
implementation of the bylaw.
[1:33:50]
5.9. Adoption avec un
[1:33:51]
modifications d'un règlement
[1:33:52]
modifiant le Règlement des
[1:33:53]
permis et certificats PC-2788
[1:33:54]
afin de préciser les
[1:33:55]
informations requises au dépôt
[1:33:56]
d'une demande de certificat
[1:33:57]
d'autorisation concernant une
[1:33:58]
terrasse commerciale de même que
[1:33:59]
la durée de validité dudit
[1:34:00]
certificat d'autorisation.
[1:34:03]
L'essence est la portée du
[1:34:04]
règlement n'ont pas changé
[1:34:05]
depuis l'adoption de celui-ci le
[1:34:06]
14 janvier 2025. Quelques
[1:34:09]
ajustements mineurs ont été
[1:34:10]
effectués dans le but de
[1:34:12]
clarifier ou de préciser
[1:34:13]
certaines exigences quant au
[1:34:14]
contenu de certains documents.,
[1:34:18]
5.10, Adoption with
[1:34:20]
modifications of a by-law
[1:34:21]
amending Village Code PC-2880 in
[1:34:22]
order to specify that commercial
[1:34:23]
terraces or commercial
[1:34:24]
micro-terraces are not governed
[1:34:25]
by the Village Code. A
[1:34:29]
clarification has been added to
[1:34:30]
the content of the draft bylaw
[1:34:32]
adopted on January 14th, to
[1:34:34]
specify that modification
[1:34:35]
applies to both commercial
[1:34:37]
dresses and commercial micro
[1:34:38]
terraces.
[1:34:42]
- Pour 05. Do I have a mover.
[1:34:45]
05 à 05. 10 >> Seconder?
[1:34:50]
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:34:51]
district three.
[1:34:52]
>> Before voting, I will take a
[1:34:53]
moment to explain why I will be
[1:34:54]
voting against this bylaw. It's
[1:34:57]
based on the prohibited --
[1:34:59]
>> Excuse me. Just before you
[1:35:01]
add something. Can you specify
[1:35:03]
two which will be voting
[1:35:04]
against? Is it the block?
[1:35:05]
>> The bylaw. The block.
[1:35:08]
>> The whole one?
[1:35:09]
>> 5.5 to 5.10?
[1:35:12]
>> Yes.
[1:35:13]
>> Perfect.
[1:35:14]
>> I will be voting against the
[1:35:15]
bylaw based on the prohibitive
[1:35:16]
activities on commercial
[1:35:17]
terrasse is at section 5.26 Jay.
[1:35:20]
This section is much too
[1:35:22]
restrictive for my liking.
[1:35:24]
First, there is what I would
[1:35:25]
call excessive or over the top
[1:35:28]
ban on activities such as
[1:35:31]
dancing, theatrical for cinema
[1:35:32]
to aggravate -- theatrical or
[1:35:36]
cinematic craft fake
[1:35:37]
performances as well as concerts
[1:35:38]
and shows using loudspeakers or
[1:35:39]
any other sound amplification
[1:35:42]
devices, which I find is
[1:35:44]
definitely excessive. This goes
[1:35:46]
too far it takes us into
[1:35:47]
footloose territory. It would be
[1:35:48]
much more reasonable to allow
[1:35:50]
the 60s and address any concerns
[1:35:52]
about noise and nuisance but
[1:35:54]
including specific limits based
[1:35:56]
on decibels level workplace and
[1:35:58]
proximity to residential homes.
[1:36:01]
The bylaw already includes very
[1:36:03]
strict limits to the hours in
[1:36:04]
which music can be performed,
[1:36:06]
and a cap on the number of
[1:36:08]
participants on the terrasse
[1:36:09]
which, in my view, is perhaps
[1:36:11]
too low for summer crowds. We
[1:36:14]
saw that especially at studio
[1:36:16]
77. Second, the bylaw allows for
[1:36:18]
events with sound amplification,
[1:36:20]
not dancing, to be authorized by
[1:36:22]
the City on a case by case basis
[1:36:24]
the special events. Again, I
[1:36:27]
object to the principle that we
[1:36:28]
should start by banning
[1:36:29]
everything and then allow
[1:36:30]
exceptions on a discretionary
[1:36:31]
basis with no clear criteria. In
[1:36:34]
a way that will force business
[1:36:35]
owners to wade through red tape
[1:36:38]
while being open to favouritism,
[1:36:40]
possibly, and arbitrary
[1:36:41]
decision-making. The rules
[1:36:42]
should be clear and provide the
[1:36:43]
same opportunities to everyone
[1:36:46]
who follows them. Finally, the
[1:36:49]
bylaw limits the opportunity to
[1:36:50]
get a permit to activities that
[1:36:51]
have been previously authorized
[1:36:53]
by special events. The work
[1:36:56]
previously is important here. It
[1:36:57]
can easily be interpreted to
[1:36:58]
mean that only business --
[1:37:00]
businesses and terrasse is that
[1:37:02]
hosted activities prior to this
[1:37:03]
bylaw being passed would be
[1:37:05]
allowed to host them in the
[1:37:06]
future. Studio 77 may be
[1:37:09]
grandfathered in and other
[1:37:10]
business is, but new business is
[1:37:11]
trying to get outdoor shows in
[1:37:13]
Pointe-Claire and coming here is
[1:37:14]
maybe out of luck. This is
[1:37:16]
arbitrary and I think unfair. In
[1:37:18]
the last couple of decades,
[1:37:19]
Pointe-Claire has gone a little
[1:37:21]
too far in the direction of a
[1:37:22]
war on fun, in my opinion. You
[1:37:25]
increasingly need to have a
[1:37:27]
permit of some kind to do
[1:37:29]
anything, whether you are a
[1:37:30]
homeowner hosting an event on
[1:37:31]
your street or running a
[1:37:32]
business. Pointe-Claire south
[1:37:33]
was once a resort town for
[1:37:35]
tourists and had great indoor
[1:37:36]
live music venues like the
[1:37:38]
maples, the Edgewater at the
[1:37:40]
pioneer. The success of studio
[1:37:42]
77 shows that conference after
[1:37:43]
the pioneer was knocked down, it
[1:37:45]
shows us that the market is
[1:37:46]
still there and may even
[1:37:47]
increase overtime. Along with
[1:37:50]
the war on fun, Pointe-Claire
[1:37:51]
has also seen aggressive
[1:37:53]
residential development at the
[1:37:54]
expense of commercial spaces.
[1:37:57]
Developers and city planners
[1:37:58]
often promised mixed use
[1:37:59]
developments, but the result
[1:38:00]
tends to be all presidential. It
[1:38:02]
is simply more profitable for
[1:38:04]
developers to build
[1:38:05]
residentially only, while a
[1:38:07]
luxury home owners don't like to
[1:38:08]
have the noises and smells of
[1:38:10]
bars and restaurants or grocery
[1:38:11]
stores beneath them. My belief
[1:38:14]
is that, here we go, that it
[1:38:16]
claustrophobic 15-minute city
[1:38:17]
made up of 600 square foot
[1:38:19]
condos has an even greater need
[1:38:21]
for businesses that give
[1:38:23]
residences places together,
[1:38:25]
socialize, and be entertained.
[1:38:29]
That is the reason I will be
[1:38:30]
voting against it. So, from 5.5
[1:38:33]
to 5.10. Yes?
[1:38:35]
>> Before you vote in gets to,
[1:38:36]
are we including 5.5 which is
[1:38:39]
concerning --
[1:38:40]
>> Architectural?
[1:38:41]
>> You are okay with 5.5, but
[1:38:43]
then you vote against 5.6 and
[1:38:44]
onwards?
[1:38:45]
>> Yes.
[1:38:46]
- Merci, Madame. So, all in
[1:38:50]
favour? Against?
[1:38:55]
>> Thank you.
[1:38:56]
>> Okay.
[1:39:02]
- 6.1?
[1:39:04]
- 6.1. Accorder un soutien
[1:39:05]
financier pour un montant total
[1:39:06]
de 600$ à la Villa St-Louis.
[1:39:09]
C'est fait et d'accorder pour
[1:39:11]
faciliter
[1:39:12]
(---)
[1:39:14]
>> 6.2, Grant financial support
[1:39:15]
for a total amount of $ 1,600 to
[1:39:16]
Les Amis du Vieux-Moulin. Les
[1:39:18]
Amis du Vieux-Moulin. Requesting
[1:39:19]
a donation for the City of
[1:39:21]
Pointe-Claire to fund an
[1:39:22]
activity for their golden age
[1:39:23]
Club. 6.3. Deux Accorder un
[1:39:25]
soutien financier pour un
[1:39:26]
montant total de 35000$ à la
[1:39:27]
Fondation Hôpital Général
[1:39:28]
Lakeshore. Ce don de la Ville de
[1:39:30]
Pointe-Claire pour mettre à
[1:39:34]
l'information Fondation Hôpital
[1:39:35]
Général Lakeshore. D'investir
[1:39:36]
pour évaluer la qualité des
[1:39:37]
soins de santé fournis et
[1:39:39]
améliorer la qualité de vie de
[1:39:40]
tous ceux qui franchissent leur
[1:39:41]
porte. Le calcul est basé sur 1
[1:39:43]
dollar tant qu'il est pour tous
[1:39:44]
les résidents de Sinclair.
[1:39:46]
>> 6.4, Authorize the lending of
[1:39:47]
equipment for various events /
[1:39:48]
fundraisers held on the
[1:39:49]
territory of the city. The
[1:39:50]
events concerned are Empty
[1:39:52]
Bowls, which is a fund-raiser
[1:39:53]
organized by bread basket. A
[1:39:56]
softball tournament to benefit
[1:39:57]
the lakeshore hospital organized
[1:39:58]
by CP H. And poutine fist, we're
[1:40:00]
gonna buy -- production.
[1:40:05]
>> For 6.1 to 6.4, do I have a
[1:40:08]
mover?
[1:40:09]
>> Eric Stork, that including
[1:40:11]
poutine fest.
[1:40:12]
>> And a seconder?
[1:40:14]
>> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[1:40:16]
>> All in favour?
[1:40:19]
- 7.1. Déposer le procès-verbal
[1:40:20]
de la réunion du 27 novembre
[1:40:21]
2024 du Comité consultatif
[1:40:22]
Stewart Hall.
[1:40:28]
>> 7.2, File the minutes of the
[1:40:29]
December 10, 2024, meeting of
[1:40:30]
the Traffic Committee. 7.3.
[1:40:31]
Déposer le procès-verbal de la
[1:40:32]
réunion du 12 décembre 2024 du
[1:40:33]
Comité d'art public. Ouais
[1:40:35]
>> 7.4, File the minutes of the
[1:40:36]
January 29, 2025, meeting of the
[1:40:37]
Youth Advisory Board.
[1:40:47]
>> 10.2, File the report
[1:40:49]
concerning authorized
[1:40:50]
reimbursements in connection
[1:40:51]
with municipal
[1:40:52]
councillors'research and support
[1:40:53]
expenses, for fiscal year 2024.
[1:40:55]
- 10.3. Déposer le rapport des
[1:40:56]
dépenses des élus
[1:40:58]
(frais de représentation,
[1:41:00]
frais de congrès et colloques,
[1:41:01]
frais de déplacement)
[1:41:02]
pour l'année 2024.
[1:41:06]
>> 10.4, Adopt a Policy on the
[1:41:07]
establishment of immovable
[1:41:08]
subcategories and division of
[1:41:09]
the City's territory into
[1:41:10]
sectors. Through this policy,
[1:41:11]
the City of Pointe-Claire aims
[1:41:12]
to pursue the following
[1:41:14]
objectives
[1:41:15]
| | |
[1:41:16]
Based on mobile subcategories
[1:41:17]
and the division of its
[1:41:18]
territory into sectors. To adopt
[1:41:19]
practices that optimize the
[1:41:20]
city's efforts when preparing a
[1:41:21]
new property assessment rule. To
[1:41:23]
ensure that the process of
[1:41:25]
developing a new assessment role
[1:41:27]
proceeds with that delay and
[1:41:28]
within the established
[1:41:29]
deadlines, in accordance with
[1:41:30]
the framework set out in the --
[1:41:32]
municipal taxation. To guarantee
[1:41:34]
the presence of a necessary data
[1:41:35]
in the new property assessment
[1:41:37]
role as well as been short its
[1:41:38]
validity and integrity. To meet
[1:41:40]
the city's objectives in terms
[1:41:41]
of tax planning. Finally, to
[1:41:43]
ensure that clear and precise
[1:41:44]
information is available to the
[1:41:46]
assessor one preparing a new
[1:41:47]
property assessment --.
[1:41:49]
- 10.5. Eux Autoriser
[1:41:50]
l'utilisation des réserves aux
[1:41:51]
livres pour effectuer le
[1:41:52]
remboursement du refinancement
[1:41:53]
de décembre 2025. Nous avons des
[1:41:55]
règlements d'emprunts qui ont
[1:41:56]
des soldats refinancer pour
[1:41:57]
lesquels nous désirons payer
[1:41:59]
comptant. Nous comptons donc
[1:42:00]
utiliser nos réserves actuelles
[1:42:01]
pour effectuer le rapport
[1:42:02]
seulement du refinancement
[1:42:03]
prévus à la tête suivante, soit
[1:42:05]
le 17 décembre 2025. Pour un
[1:42:08]
montant de 7 millions 718000
[1:42:11]
dollars.
[1:42:13]
>> 10.6, Authorize the
[1:42:14]
participation of the City of
[1:42:15]
Pointe-Claire in the purchasing
[1:42:16]
consortium for the 2025-2026
[1:42:17]
winter season, for the calls for
[1:42:18]
tenders prepared by the City of
[1:42:19]
Montreal for the supply and
[1:42:20]
delivery of winter abrasives and
[1:42:22]
deicing salt. In order to
[1:42:25]
benefit from favourable
[1:42:26]
financial conditions, the City
[1:42:27]
of Pointe-Claire wishes to join
[1:42:29]
the purchasing group for the
[1:42:30]
City of Montréal to procure
[1:42:32]
deicing salt required for its
[1:42:33]
operations. The approximate
[1:42:34]
annual quantity is around 6000
[1:42:37]
tons, but it may vary up or down
[1:42:38]
depending on climate change. In
[1:42:40]
the event of a neat exceeding
[1:42:42]
6000 tons annually, for
[1:42:44]
administrative efficiency
[1:42:45]
purposes, the amount maybe
[1:42:46]
increased if the necessary funds
[1:42:47]
are available.
[1:42:49]
Pour 10. >> 4
[1:42:52]
Do I have a mover?
[1:42:54]
>> Paul Bissonnette, district.
[1:42:55]
To
[1:42:56]
>> A seconder?
[1:42:57]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:42:58]
>> All in favour?
[1:43:00]
>> Thank. You
[1:43:02]
- 12.1. Déposer la liste des
[1:43:04]
changements au personnel par
[1:43:05]
décisions déléguées pour le mois
[1:43:06]
de mars 2025.
[1:43:08]
>> 12.2, Approve the list of
[1:43:09]
non-delegated staff changes as
[1:43:10]
of March 11, 2025.
[1:43:11]
- 12.3. Approuver une elles
[1:43:12]
modification à la politique sur
[1:43:13]
les déplacements à la demande de
[1:43:14]
l'employeur. Les montants sont
[1:43:15]
réalisés à la hausse comme à la
[1:43:17]
baisse. Le 1er mai de chaque
[1:43:18]
année en fonction de l'indice
[1:43:19]
moyen des prix à la
[1:43:21]
consommation. Sous l'indice
[1:43:22]
Transport privé province de
[1:43:23]
Québec de l'année civile
[1:43:25]
précédente. Au 1er mai 2025, les
[1:43:28]
montants augmenteront d'un
[1:43:30]
sous-.
[1:43:36]
- Pour 12 points deux à 12
[1:43:37]
points trois Do I have a mover?
[1:43:40]
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:43:42]
district three.
[1:43:43]
>> And a seconder?
[1:43:44]
>> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[1:43:46]
>> All in favour?
[1:43:47]
>> Thank you. 14.1, Exercise the
[1:43:51]
renewal option provided for in
[1:43:53]
the contract entered into with
[1:43:54]
Conception Paysage Inc., for the
[1:43:56]
year 2025, in the amount of $
[1:43:57]
26,472.65, taxes included, for
[1:44:02]
professional services for the
[1:44:03]
monthly and annual inspection of
[1:44:05]
the City's playgrounds.
[1:44:07]
Inspection of the city's
[1:44:08]
playgrounds is essential to
[1:44:09]
ensure safe play areas for
[1:44:11]
children. Every year, detailed
[1:44:12]
monthly inspections of each
[1:44:13]
piece of equipment art carried
[1:44:14]
out by a professional service.
[1:44:17]
- 14.2. Se prévaloir de l'option
[1:44:18]
de renouvellement prévue au
[1:44:19]
contrat intervenu avec 9042-0845
[1:44:20]
Québec inc.
[1:44:21]
(Mario C. et fils)
[1:44:22]
, Pour l'année 2025, au montant
[1:44:23]
de 93752,79$, taxes incluses,
[1:44:25]
pour des travaux de plantation
[1:44:28]
et d'entretien horticole
[1:44:29]
incluant arrosage des boulevards
[1:44:30]
Saint-Jean et des Sources, de
[1:44:31]
l'avenue Holiday et Place de la
[1:44:32]
Triade. Ce contrat sert à
[1:44:35]
maintenir la pérennité des
[1:44:36]
végétaux et à maintenir la
[1:44:37]
pauvreté des aménagements.
[1:44:41]
>> 14.3, Exercise the renewal
[1:44:42]
option provided for in the
[1:44:43]
contract entered into with Waste
[1:44:44]
Management Québec Inc., for the
[1:44:46]
period of April 1, 2025, to
[1:44:48]
March 31, 2026, in the amount of
[1:44:49]
$ 1 979 615.77, taxes included
[1:44:56]
for the collection and transport
[1:44:57]
of domestic waste, compostable
[1:44:58]
materials, bulky items,
[1:44:59]
Christmas trees and roll-off
[1:45:00]
containers.
[1:45:02]
- 14.4. Se prévaloir de l'option
[1:45:04]
de renouvellement prévue au
[1:45:05]
contrat intervenu avec Colas
[1:45:07]
(anciennement Meloche,
[1:45:08]
division de Sintra)
[1:45:09]
et Construction DJL, pour la
[1:45:10]
période de la mi-mars 2025 à la
[1:45:12]
mi-mars 2026, au montant de
[1:45:14]
329679,32$, taxes incluses, pour
[1:45:16]
la fourniture et le chargement
[1:45:18]
d'enrobés bitumineux. Le mélange
[1:45:20]
bitumineux sont nécessaires pour
[1:45:21]
la réparation et l'installation
[1:45:23]
des conduites d'eau, des égouts,
[1:45:25]
des nids-de-poule, et des
[1:45:26]
fissures de la chaussée, ainsi
[1:45:27]
que pour la réparation des
[1:45:28]
trottoirs adjacent à la
[1:45:29]
chaussée.
[1:45:32]
>> 14.5, two Exercise the
[1:45:34]
renewal option provided for in
[1:45:35]
the contract entered into with
[1:45:36]
Environnement Routier NRJ Inc.,
[1:45:37]
for the period of April 1, 2025,
[1:45:38]
to March 31, 2026, in the amount
[1:45:39]
of $ 121,427.40, taxes included
[1:45:46]
for the collection by crane and
[1:45:48]
transportation of waste
[1:45:49]
materials from semi-buried
[1:45:50]
containers. This contract
[1:45:52]
ensures that all residual waste
[1:45:53]
a committed in the city's semi
[1:45:55]
brick containers will be
[1:45:56]
collected at a regular frequency
[1:45:59]
using proper equipment and
[1:46:00]
ensuring proper disposal at the
[1:46:02]
respective collection sites.
[1:46:03]
- 14.6. Octroyer un contrat pour
[1:46:04]
le remplacement et
[1:46:05]
l'installation de raccordements
[1:46:06]
de service pour l'année 2025, à
[1:46:09]
EDJ, pour un montant total de
[1:46:10]
477076,76$, taxes incluses. Ce
[1:46:16]
contrat est requis pour
[1:46:17]
effectuer sur demande des
[1:46:18]
travaux de remplacement et
[1:46:19]
d'installation de raccordement
[1:46:20]
de services résidentiels pour
[1:46:21]
l'année 2025.
[1:46:24]
>> 14.7, To award a contract for
[1:46:25]
rental services of portable
[1:46:26]
sinks, portable toilets and
[1:46:27]
sanitary trailers for the years
[1:46:29]
2025, 2026 and 2027, to Sanivac
[1:46:34]
for a total amount of $
[1:46:35]
188,591.19, taxes included, with
[1:46:37]
the years 2028 and 2029 in
[1:46:39]
option. These toilets and
[1:46:43]
portable sinks and sanitary
[1:46:44]
trailers are intended for use at
[1:46:45]
various outdoor sites, with
[1:46:47]
rental periods varying according
[1:46:48]
to their need. The purpose of
[1:46:49]
this approach is to maintain
[1:46:50]
service and meet the needs of
[1:46:52]
the population in the city's
[1:46:53]
various parks and green spaces.
[1:46:55]
According to the calendar of
[1:46:56]
other activities also.
[1:46:57]
- 14.8. Octroyer un contrat pour
[1:46:59]
la fourniture et la livraison
[1:47:00]
d'arbres pour l'année 2025, à
[1:47:02]
Pépinière Jardin 2000 inc., pour
[1:47:04]
un montant total de 199585,10$,
[1:47:07]
taxes incluses. 14 points en 14
[1:47:11]
points six. 14 points huit, je
[1:47:14]
m'excuse. Do I have a mover?
[1:47:16]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:47:18]
>> And a seconder?
[1:47:20]
>> All in favour?
[1:47:25]
>> 15.1, To exercise the renewal
[1:47:27]
option provided for in the
[1:47:28]
contract entered into with
[1:47:29]
Av-Tech Inc., for the period of
[1:47:32]
April 1, 2025 to March 31, 2026,
[1:47:35]
in the amount of $ 47,362.79,
[1:47:39]
taxes included, for maintenance,
[1:47:40]
inspection and repair services
[1:47:41]
for generators in the city of
[1:47:42]
Pointe-Claire.
[1:47:44]
- 15.2. Se prévaloir de l'option
[1:47:45]
de renouvellement prévue au
[1:47:46]
contrat intervenu avec A.S.I.
[1:47:47]
Expert Aquatique, pour la
[1:47:48]
période du 1 avril 2025 au 31
[1:47:49]
mars 2026, au montant de
[1:47:51]
5793,30$, taxes incluses, pour
[1:47:55]
la fourniture et la livraison de
[1:47:57]
produit chimiques pour les
[1:47:58]
piscines de la Ville. Ce contrat
[1:48:01]
prévoit la fournitures et
[1:48:02]
livraisons sur demande de
[1:48:03]
différents produits chimiques
[1:48:04]
pour les piscines intérieures du
[1:48:06]
Centre aquatique du
[1:48:07]
(---)
[1:48:08]
. Ces produits assurent que les
[1:48:09]
piscines restent opérationnels
[1:48:10]
et fonctionne de manière
[1:48:11]
optimale.
[1:48:13]
>> 15.3, To exercise the renewal
[1:48:14]
option provided for in the
[1:48:15]
contract entered into with Trane
[1:48:16]
Canada ULC, for the period of
[1:48:17]
April 1, 2025, to March 31,
[1:48:22]
2026, in the amount of $
[1:48:25]
85,858.52, taxes included, for
[1:48:27]
the supply and the delivery,
[1:48:29]
upon request, of various
[1:48:30]
mechanical parts for HVAC
[1:48:31]
systems. This contract provides
[1:48:33]
for the supply and delivery on
[1:48:35]
request of various mechanical
[1:48:36]
parts for the heating,
[1:48:37]
ventilation, air conditioning
[1:48:39]
systems of the city's various
[1:48:40]
buildings.
[1:48:41]
- 15.4. Approuver une
[1:48:42]
modification au contrat
[1:48:43]
intervenu avec Aquatechno
[1:48:44]
Spécialistes Aquatiques inc.,
[1:48:45]
pour la fourniture et livraison
[1:48:47]
de produit chimiques pour
[1:48:48]
piscines et jeux extérieurs,
[1:48:50]
pour un montant de 15601,84$,
[1:48:52]
taxes incluses. L'augmentation
[1:48:55]
des coûts fait suite à l'achat
[1:48:57]
allemand extrêmes des leaders
[1:49:00]
nier, qui a nécessité d'utiliser
[1:49:02]
davantage de produits chimiques
[1:49:03]
pour la qualité des piscines
[1:49:05]
extérieures de la ville.
[1:49:07]
>>
[1:49:08]
>> For 15.1 to 15.4, do I have a
[1:49:10]
mover?
[1:49:14]
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[1:49:15]
>> And a seconder?
[1:49:17]
>> Tara Stainforth, district
[1:49:19]
four.
[1:49:20]
>> All in favour?
[1:49:21]
>> Thank you. 16.1, To authorize
[1:49:24]
the signature of the notice and
[1:49:25]
consent to the reorganization of
[1:49:28]
Groupe ABS Inc. in reference to
[1:49:29]
the contract for professional
[1:49:30]
services for geotechnical
[1:49:31]
studies, environmental
[1:49:33]
characterization and material
[1:49:34]
quality control for municipal
[1:49:37]
infrastructure rehabilitation
[1:49:38]
for 2024, with two years in
[1:49:42]
option. So the contract is
[1:49:43]
partly in effect between the
[1:49:44]
city and Groupe ABS Inc., --
[1:49:46]
under the same contract.
[1:49:47]
- 16.2. Octroyer un contrat pour
[1:49:48]
la réfection des sentiers et de
[1:49:49]
l'éclairage au parc Northview, à
[1:49:52]
Groupe Damex, pour un montant
[1:49:54]
total de 619023,68$, taxes
[1:49:57]
incluses. 16.3, To award a
[1:50:02]
contract for the repair of Du
[1:50:03]
Bord-duLac-Lakeshore Road, from
[1:50:04]
Raynor Avenue to the entrance of
[1:50:05]
Highway 20, to Ali Excavation
[1:50:06]
Inc., for a total amount of $
[1:50:10]
2,732,822.74, taxes included.
[1:50:14]
The Works covered by the
[1:50:16]
contract include resurfacing and
[1:50:17]
related works on the section
[1:50:19]
between rain Avenue and the
[1:50:20]
Highway 20 ramp.
[1:50:21]
- 16.4. Octroyer un contrat pour
[1:50:23]
la reconstruction du et
[1:50:24]
rond-point ouest de l'avenue
[1:50:25]
Cedar, à Construction G-Nesis
[1:50:26]
inc., pour un montant total de
[1:50:28]
965442,78$, taxes incluses. Les
[1:50:35]
travaux consistent à la
[1:50:36]
reconstruction de l'avenue
[1:50:37]
Centre, incluant le remplacement
[1:50:38]
de la conduite d'aqueduc, les
[1:50:40]
égouts sanitaires et les coûts
[1:50:41]
pluviales. Le remplacement des
[1:50:43]
raccordement de services, la
[1:50:44]
construction d'une bordure en
[1:50:45]
béton de chaque côté, le pavage
[1:50:47]
de la rue et la remise en état
[1:50:48]
des lieux.
[1:50:51]
>> 16.5, Award a contract for
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the replacement of street lights
[1:50:54]
on Ashington and Inglewood
[1:50:55]
avenues, to Laurin Laurin Inc.,
[1:50:57]
for a total amount of $
[1:51:00]
324,684.80, taxes included. The
[1:51:03]
city intends to replace the
[1:51:04]
lighting system on Ashton and
[1:51:06]
Inglewood avenues including
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basis, lamppost, conduits and
[1:51:08]
all piece is required for the
[1:51:09]
project.
[1:51:10]
- 16.6. Octroyer un contrat pour
[1:51:11]
des services professionnels pour
[1:51:12]
l'inspection de la structure
[1:51:13]
située sur le boulevard
[1:51:14]
Saint-Jean au-dessus des voies
[1:51:16]
du CN, du CP et de l'avenue
[1:51:18]
Donegani, à IGF axiom inc., pour
[1:51:20]
un montant total de 71164,50$,
[1:51:23]
taxes incluses. La Ville devrait
[1:51:26]
retenir les services
[1:51:27]
professionnels d'une ferme pour
[1:51:28]
effectuer les activités
[1:51:30]
d'inventaires, d'inspecteur
[1:51:31]
général et le calcul de la
[1:51:33]
capacité portante ces
[1:51:34]
structures.
[1:51:40]
>> Holden. Hold on. Sorry. My
[1:51:43]
mistake. 16.7, Approve the
[1:51:46]
evaluation criteria to be used
[1:51:47]
for projects involving the
[1:51:48]
supply and the installation of
[1:51:49]
play modules. This grid will be
[1:51:50]
added to the eighth standard
[1:51:51]
grids authorized and can be used
[1:51:53]
for several playground model
[1:51:54]
projects. Do I have a mover?
[1:51:59]
>> Paul Bissonnette, district.
[1:52:01]
Two
[1:52:02]
>> And a seconder?
[1:52:03]
>> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[1:52:04]
>> All in favour? Yes,
[1:52:08]
Councillor Cousineau?
[1:52:09]
>> On that final, we have been
[1:52:13]
asked by one owner On a eu des
[1:52:17]
demandes, et je vais l'en
[1:52:18]
français, par un propriétaire
[1:52:23]
qui est après rebâtir sa maison.
[1:52:26]
J'ai l'assurance qu'on va tout
[1:52:27]
faire pour ne pas allonger son
[1:52:30]
projet ou nuire à son prochain.
[1:52:32]
- Monsieur Cousineau, est-ce que
[1:52:33]
vous pouvez faire référence à un
[1:52:35]
point dans l'ordre du jour pour
[1:52:36]
nous guider?
[1:52:37]
- Excusez-moi. Ça, c'est...
[1:52:41]
- 16 points quatre?
[1:52:42]
- Oui.
[1:52:44]
- C'est le contrat pour la rue
[1:52:45]
cet art, c'est ça?
[1:52:46]
- Oui
[1:52:47]
(rires)
[1:52:49]
- C'est noté. Une chose que je
[1:52:50]
vous ai amené.
[1:52:59]
- 17.1 Assemblée publique
[1:53:01]
concernant une demande sur les
[1:53:02]
projets particuliers de
[1:53:03]
construction, de modification ou
[1:53:04]
d'occupation d'un immeuble
[1:53:05]
(PPCMOI)
[1:53:06]
situé au 27, avenue Salisbury.
[1:53:07]
Donc, une fois que j'aurai donné
[1:53:08]
les détails du projet, les gens
[1:53:09]
dans la salle auront l'occasion
[1:53:11]
de s'exprimer s'ils le
[1:53:13]
souhaitent. En raison d'un
[1:53:15]
incendie, le bâtiment a perdu
[1:53:19]
les droits acquis dont il
[1:53:22]
bénéficiait. La reconstruction
[1:53:23]
de salon funéraire tel que
[1:53:24]
présentez déroge aux
[1:53:25]
dispositions du Code villageois.
[1:53:27]
La Ville doit donc se prononcer
[1:53:28]
sur une demande effectuée en
[1:53:29]
vertu du Règlement 29 57, sur
[1:53:32]
les projets particuliers de
[1:53:33]
construction de modification
[1:53:34]
d'occupation d'un immeuble. Les
[1:53:36]
aspects non conformes nos
[1:53:38]
règlements sont: la marge
[1:53:40]
latérale proposée ne respecte
[1:53:41]
pas la marge latérale maximale
[1:53:44]
réglementaire exigée tant du
[1:53:45]
côté droit que c'est du côté de
[1:53:47]
l'accès véhiculaire. Le taux
[1:53:50]
d'importation superbement était
[1:53:51]
inférieure au minimum requis de
[1:53:52]
40% dans cette zone. Coefficient
[1:53:55]
d'occupation tout ça proposé est
[1:53:57]
inférieure au minimum exigé dans
[1:54:00]
la zone huppé quatre. La largeur
[1:54:03]
de la façade proposée dépasse la
[1:54:04]
largeur maximale permise pour
[1:54:06]
chaque pan de façade, soit 12
[1:54:08]
mètres. Et le pourcentage de la
[1:54:10]
façade localisé dans la zone de
[1:54:12]
façade tel que défini au Code
[1:54:14]
villageois est inférieure au
[1:54:15]
minimum requis, soit 90%. Notez
[1:54:18]
que le projet de résolution
[1:54:20]
qu'on ait des dispositions
[1:54:21]
propres à une résolution
[1:54:23]
susceptible d'approbation
[1:54:24]
référendaire.
[1:54:31]
- On continue?
[1:54:32]
- Il, s'il vous plaît.
[1:54:36]
>> 17.2, which is a public
[1:54:37]
meeting regarding a specific
[1:54:39]
construction, alteration or
[1:54:42]
Occupancy Proposals for an
[1:54:43]
Immovable
[1:54:44]
(SCAOPI)
[1:54:45]
request situated at 1890,
[1:54:46]
boulevard des Sources. The
[1:54:49]
company has submitted an
[1:54:51]
application under by law --
[1:54:53]
specific -- in order to carry
[1:54:56]
out a project that deviates from
[1:54:58]
the zoning bylaw -- for the
[1:55:00]
purpose of expanding and
[1:55:02]
reorganizing its operations. The
[1:55:04]
aspects that do not comply with
[1:55:05]
the bylaw are extension of the
[1:55:08]
industrial use belonging to
[1:55:09]
class the one, which is
[1:55:10]
transport and storage, in zone
[1:55:12]
and 25, which is not permitted.
[1:55:15]
Project to consolidate and
[1:55:16]
expand the company's operations
[1:55:17]
in zones and 25 and and 29
[1:55:20]
through a campus tie project,
[1:55:21]
which is not permitted. Decrease
[1:55:23]
of the forest space index to
[1:55:26]
0.18, while the regulatory floor
[1:55:28]
space index is 0.33 in the
[1:55:31]
concert zones. Development of
[1:55:32]
parking spaces in zone and 29
[1:55:34]
with a front yard which is not
[1:55:36]
permitted. Development of
[1:55:38]
parking spaces for trucks and
[1:55:40]
trailers in the secondary yard
[1:55:43]
in zone N25 which is not
[1:55:47]
permitted. Setback within the
[1:55:48]
project for the development of
[1:55:49]
parking spaces that does not
[1:55:50]
comply with the minimum
[1:55:51]
regulatory setback requirement.
[1:55:54]
Area of the secondary front
[1:55:55]
setback used to park eight fleet
[1:55:57]
of trucks and trailers in zone
[1:56:00]
N25 exceeds the maximum area
[1:56:02]
allowed. Glazed areas on the
[1:56:05]
front facade of the new
[1:56:06]
buildings that do not meet the
[1:56:07]
minimum regulatory area
[1:56:10]
requirements. Cancellation of --
[1:56:12]
offences in the front and
[1:56:14]
secondary yards which is not
[1:56:15]
authorized. Insulation of a
[1:56:17]
fence in the front and secondary
[1:56:18]
front yards that exceeds the
[1:56:19]
maximum permitted height. This
[1:56:21]
draft resolution contains
[1:56:23]
provisions, making it resolution
[1:56:24]
subject by approval by way of
[1:56:26]
referendum.
[1:56:33]
- 17.3. Adopter un second projet
[1:56:34]
de résolution pour un projet
[1:56:35]
particulier de construction, de
[1:56:36]
modification ou d'occupation
[1:56:37]
d'un immeuble au 27, avenue
[1:56:39]
Salisbury autorisant la
[1:56:40]
construction d'un salon
[1:56:41]
funéraire. Donc, la première
[1:56:43]
portion de la consultation
[1:56:44]
publique portait sur ce projet.
[1:56:46]
On comprend qu'aucun commentaire
[1:56:47]
n'ont été reçus ce soir. La
[1:56:49]
second projet de résolution est
[1:56:52]
donc présenté au conseil.
[1:56:54]
- Pour 17.3 Do I have a mover?
[1:57:01]
17.3 is it not?
[1:57:02]
>> 17.3.
[1:57:08]
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[1:57:09]
>> And a seconder?
[1:57:11]
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
[1:57:12]
district three.
[1:57:13]
>> All in favour?
[1:57:15]
>> Thank you. 17.4, Adopt a
[1:57:19]
second draft resolution for a
[1:57:20]
Specific Construction,
[1:57:21]
Alteration or Occupancy Proposal
[1:57:22]
for an Immovable at 1890 Des
[1:57:24]
Sources Boulevard authorizing
[1:57:25]
the construction of a new
[1:57:26]
building and the redevelopment
[1:57:28]
of the Manitoulin Transport
[1:57:30]
site, in several phases.
[1:57:36]
Do I have a mover?
[1:57:37]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:57:38]
>> And a seconder?
[1:57:40]
>> Turf Stainforth, district
[1:57:41]
four.
[1:57:42]
>> All in favour?
[1:57:43]
- Merci.
[1:57:45]
- 17.5. Adopter un premier
[1:57:46]
projet de résolution pour un
[1:57:47]
projet particulier de
[1:57:48]
construction, de modification ou
[1:57:49]
d'occupation d'un immeuble au
[1:57:51]
600, boulevard Saint-Jean dans
[1:57:52]
le but de régulariser l'usage
[1:57:54]
existant « Brasserie
[1:57:55]
(E-2)
[1:57:56]
» de même que la terrasse
[1:57:57]
commerciale, de transformer une
[1:57:58]
partie de la brasserie en un
[1:58:01]
restaurant D-1, et d'agrandir le
[1:58:02]
bâtiment aux fins d'améliorer la
[1:58:04]
fonctionnalité des opérations au
[1:58:05]
sein de l'établissement. Les
[1:58:07]
principales composantes du
[1:58:09]
projet présenter sont les
[1:58:11]
suivantes: régulariser l'usage
[1:58:12]
non conforme de brasserie et
[1:58:13]
deux, transformer une partie de
[1:58:14]
la brasserie en usage
[1:58:16]
restaurant, de maintenir une
[1:58:17]
capacité d'accueil total de 272
[1:58:20]
places assises, régulariser la
[1:58:22]
terrasse existante, dont la
[1:58:23]
superficie maximale de 225
[1:58:25]
mètres carrés, il a capacité
[1:58:27]
maximale de 177 places avec tous
[1:58:29]
les équipements immobiliers et
[1:58:31]
associés. Construire un bâtiment
[1:58:32]
accessoire en remplacement de
[1:58:33]
souliers existant pour
[1:58:35]
l'entreposage des pactes
[1:58:36]
gestions de matières duel. Le
[1:58:38]
projet de résidus
[1:58:39]
(---)
[1:58:40]
dispositions propres à une
[1:58:41]
(---)
[1:58:44]
- Pour 17.5 Do I have a mover?
[1:58:47]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[1:58:49]
>> And a seconder?
[1:58:50]
>> Paul Bissonnette, district
[1:58:51]
two.
[1:58:52]
>> All in favour?
[1:58:53]
>> Thank you. The persons
[1:58:57]
present may interests Council on
[1:58:59]
the item 17.6 to 17.8. 17.6 is
[1:59:05]
Consider a minor exemption
[1:59:06]
request concerning the property
[1:59:07]
situated at 57 De breslay
[1:59:08]
avenue.. It is to permit the
[1:59:10]
width of a house that has more
[1:59:11]
than one floor to occupy 75.5%
[1:59:14]
of the width of the lancet,
[1:59:16]
rather than the maximum
[1:59:17]
permitted of 70%.
[1:59:21]
>> For 17.6, do I have a mover?
[1:59:26]
Yes, if you will. At the
[1:59:28]
microphone.
[1:59:33]
>> I am Stephanie Myers at 55
[1:59:35]
Avenue to Bradley. I am voting
[1:59:37]
in favour of this. These people
[1:59:39]
have been very forthcoming with
[1:59:40]
what declined to do at this
[1:59:42]
location. I have been at that
[1:59:44]
location for ten years. Sadly,
[1:59:46]
I've lost my neighbour, she
[1:59:48]
passed, she had been there her
[1:59:49]
whole life. Since that time I
[1:59:51]
know it's a bungalow and I know
[1:59:52]
we value bungalows. I value a
[1:59:55]
bungalow. But it's been tossed
[1:59:56]
around and bought and sold it.
[1:59:58]
Proposals have come and gone. It
[2:00:00]
has sat vacant and nobody cares
[2:00:02]
for it. The trees have never
[2:00:03]
been trimmed. The yard is
[2:00:04]
garbage. I would fully support
[2:00:08]
having a nice home with a family
[2:00:09]
who wants to live in the
[2:00:11]
neighbourhood. Who wants to live
[2:00:13]
in the neighbourhood with
[2:00:14]
children for my children to play
[2:00:16]
with. So, as much as I'm not
[2:00:18]
looking forward to the
[2:00:19]
construction, I would vote
[2:00:20]
heavily in favour and passing
[2:00:22]
that went through.
[2:00:23]
>> Thank you, Chris Myers. So,
[2:00:28]
for 17.6 do I have a mover?
[2:00:30]
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:00:32]
I moved to accept the Planning
[2:00:36]
Advisory Committee
[2:00:37]
recommendation to allow the
[2:00:38]
minor exemption.
[2:00:39]
>> And a seconder?
[2:00:40]
>> Second and by Tara
[2:00:42]
Stainforth, district four.
[2:00:43]
>> All in favour?
[2:00:47]
- 17.7. Considérer une demande
[2:00:51]
de dérogation mineure concernant
[2:00:52]
la propriété située au 155,
[2:00:53]
avenue Broadview. Pour permettre
[2:00:55]
un agrandissement avec un marge
[2:00:57]
de recul avant de huit points 3
[2:00:59]
mètres plutôt que la marge de
[2:01:00]
recul minimal requis de 10
[2:01:01]
mètres.
[2:01:03]
Do I have a mover?
[2:01:04]
- Pour 17.7 >> Cynthia Homan,
[2:01:08]
district five.
[2:01:09]
>> And a seconder?
[2:01:10]
>> Brent Cowan, district eight.
[2:01:11]
>> All in favour?
[2:01:16]
>> 17.8, Consider a minor
[2:01:17]
exemption request concerning the
[2:01:18]
property situated at 119 Chesnut
[2:01:19]
avenue. It is in order to permit
[2:01:22]
a Florida space index of 0.34
[2:01:24]
rather than the maximum
[2:01:25]
permitted of 0.3. It is to
[2:01:27]
permit the width of a house that
[2:01:29]
has more than 14 to occupy 81%
[2:01:31]
of the width of the land site
[2:01:32]
rather than the maximum
[2:01:34]
permitted of 70%. To permit also
[2:01:36]
an extension with a front
[2:01:37]
setback of 6.15 metres rather
[2:01:39]
than the minimum required of
[2:01:41]
7.50 metres. And an extension
[2:01:43]
with the right side setback of
[2:01:46]
2.04 metres rather than the
[2:01:47]
minimum required side of 2.4
[2:01:50]
metres.
[2:01:55]
Do I have a mover?
[2:01:57]
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
[2:01:58]
>> And a seconder?
[2:01:59]
>> Paul Bissonnette, district
[2:02:01]
two.
[2:02:02]
>> All in favour?
[2:02:03]
>> Thank you.
[2:02:05]
- 17.9. Considérer les plans
[2:02:07]
d'implantation et d'intégration
[2:02:08]
architecturale relatifs à la
[2:02:09]
propriété située au 57, avenue
[2:02:10]
de Breslay. Pour l'ajout d'un
[2:02:12]
deuxième étage.
[2:02:14]
>> For 17.9, do I have a mover?
[2:02:19]
No?
[2:02:20]
>> 17.9.
[2:02:21]
>> 0.9.
[2:02:22]
>> Bryan Cowan, district eight.
[2:02:23]
>> A seconder?
[2:02:28]
>> All in favour?
[2:02:29]
>> Thank you. 17.10, Consider
[2:02:32]
the site planning and
[2:02:34]
architectural integration
[2:02:35]
programme plans with respect to
[2:02:36]
the property situated at 155
[2:02:38]
Broadview Avenue. It is an
[2:02:41]
extension on the left side of
[2:02:42]
the existing homes over two
[2:02:44]
storeys.
[2:02:50]
Do I have a mover?
[2:02:51]
>> Cynthia Homan, district five.
[2:02:53]
>> And a seconder?
[2:02:56]
>> All in favour?
[2:03:02]
>> Mrs. Thorstad-Cullen, please.
[2:03:06]
- 20, levée de la séance.
[2:03:07]
Closure?
[2:03:08]
>> Foreclosure, do I have a
[2:03:09]
mover?
[2:03:10]
>> Tara Stainforth, district.
[2:03:11]
Four
[2:03:12]
>> And a seconder?
[2:03:13]
>> Eric Stork, district fourth.
[2:03:14]
- Merci tout le monde. Thank you
[2:03:17]
for your patience.