[3:18] Okay, good evening everyone and uh

[3:20] welcome to the city council uh regular

[3:22] meeting. I'm calling this meeting to

[3:23] order. The time is now 6:30 p.m. Please

[3:26] stand and join us for the flag salute.

[3:29] Um council member Perez,

[3:32] » Right hand over your heart. Ready,

[3:34] begin.

[3:35] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

[3:38] United States of America and to the

[3:40] republic for which it stands, one nation

[3:43] under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[3:46] justice for all.

[3:51] Thank you, Madame Clerk, please take a

[3:53] role.

[3:54] » Council member GMA

[3:55] » Here.

[3:56] » Council member Lopez

[3:57] » Here.

[3:57] » Council member Perez

[3:59] » Here.

[3:59] » Mayor Prom Hernandez

[4:00] » Here. And Mayor McQueen Leon

[4:02] » Here. And we're going to have our

[4:04] inspiration tonight um by Council Member

[4:06] Lopez. Over to you.

[4:07] » Thank you.

[4:10] » Um council residents,

[4:14] » Little inspiration. Uh yesterday we had

[4:17] a day off. Um hope hopefully everybody

[4:19] got to enjoy Labor Day. Um I know some

[4:22] of us still had to work, but uh I I just

[4:26] wanted to recognize this. Uh every Labor

[4:28] Day, some of us fire up the grill, relax

[4:30] with family, enjoy a well-earned break,

[4:33] but this day has always meant more than

[4:35] just a long weekend. It is a debt of

[4:38] gratitude to the everyday people whose

[4:40] handle whose hands built this country

[4:42] and keep it standing.

[4:45] Labor Day honors the American labor

[4:46] movement and celebrates the social,

[4:48] economic, and cultural contributions of

[4:50] workers across the country. Right here

[4:53] in Mura County, that story, you can see

[4:55] it. You can feel it every single

[4:57] morning. Um, as I drive down Wayne Road,

[5:01] I see the uh

[5:04] I see the the farm workers working in

[5:06] the field

[5:08] bow down picking rolls of strawberries

[5:11] or tending to citrus orchards carrying a

[5:13] proud legacy of resilient hard work

[5:16] dignity. When Ventura County feeds our

[5:19] nation, it's the grit skill of the

[5:21] people in our fields. That same spirit

[5:24] runs through every corner of our

[5:25] community. We see it on the docks here

[5:27] at Port Wayani where ILwu long shoreman

[5:31] workers guide heavy cranes keep cargo

[5:33] moving across the Pacific. You see it in

[5:36] our building trades, the carpenters,

[5:38] pipe fitters, electricians, framing

[5:41] homes and rising skylines across

[5:43] Cameroon to Ventura. You feel it. You

[5:46] feel it. What really keeps uh makes it

[5:50] home is our own public works employees.

[5:52] SEIU keeping our parks clean,

[5:54] maintaining our roads and managing vital

[5:57] infrastructure. Our peace officers out

[5:59] in patrol keeping our neighborhoods safe

[6:01] and the nurses and healthc care staff

[6:03] pulling long shifts in our clinics. The

[6:06] teachers showing up for our kids every

[6:08] morning and the civilian mechanics and

[6:10] military personnel keeping operational

[6:13] mission ready across Point Magoo and

[6:15] Port Wayne. Labor Day is a simple truth.

[6:17] Every job has dignity and every worker

[6:20] deserves respect. Thank you.

[6:29] » Yes. Close session item A. There is no

[6:31] reportable action. Close session item B.

[6:34] There's no reportable action.

[6:36] » Great. Thank you. We'll now move to

[6:38] public comments not pertaining to the

[6:40] items uh on the agenda. Uh comments will

[6:43] be limited to three minutes. If you're

[6:44] participating via Zoom, please use the

[6:46] raise hand feature. Um, this process

[6:49] will be the same uh pertaining to each

[6:51] agenda item. Madame Clerk, are there any

[6:53] public comments?

[6:55] » Yes. Uh, first up is Martin Sanchez.

[7:04] » Good evening everyone. Um, my name is

[7:07] Martin Sanchez. I live on u on Scott

[7:11] Street on the 66tory block. And um

[7:16] as we may all be aware, a couple of

[7:19] years ago um we had extensive flooding.

[7:24] I attended a meeting such as this one at

[7:27] after the fact and I inquired um

[7:32] um about the contingencies that the city

[7:36] had

[7:38] to make sure that doesn't happen again.

[7:41] I inquired about the pump house that's

[7:44] on Surive Drive.

[7:46] I inquired if it had been retrofitted or

[7:50] if there was any plans to retrofited so

[7:52] that it could u accept

[7:55] additional power in the case of a power

[7:57] outage because without the pumps

[8:01] there's going to be flooding there.

[8:04] And at that time uh I was informed that

[8:07] uh someone would get me that information

[8:11] later on. Uh to this date I have not

[8:14] received anything and perhaps I was

[8:17] supposed to come and inquire personally.

[8:20] Is there any information about it?

[8:26] » And um yes I believe that our public

[8:30] works department actually had put some

[8:32] information together on that. So, we'll

[8:34] have the public works department get

[8:35] back to you.

[8:36] » I would really appreciate that. Uh as a

[8:40] me as personally as u quite a number of

[8:44] uh the residents on that block,

[8:46] » We suffered extensive damage

[8:50] in our household. We had over $30,000 in

[8:52] damage.

[8:54] Um

[8:56] the race foundation part of the house in

[8:59] the front uh the whole um race

[9:02] foundation was flooded.

[9:05] The addition in the back which was on a

[9:07] slab the water came in through the

[9:09] walls. So consequently all the drywall

[9:13] had to be replaced

[9:15] to a certain height. and uh I didn't

[9:19] inquire with all the other neighbors,

[9:20] but I'm assuming that they had similar

[9:23] damage as well. And um previous to that

[9:27] event,

[9:29] um

[9:32] my mistake was that I didn't take the

[9:34] name of the person that I talked to when

[9:36] they were cleaning up the creek. I did

[9:39] inquire at that time if um there were

[9:43] any what contingency plans the city had

[9:47] regarding that pump and regarding in

[9:51] case of a power outage what was the

[9:53] plan.

[9:55] I have um some knowledge on um on the

[10:00] issues of pumps because I used to work

[10:01] for the state of California, the

[10:03] department of transportation

[10:05] and I was in charge of the pump houses

[10:07] in the state highway system

[10:10] and I couldn't see any retrofit uh

[10:13] connections to for a a generator a

[10:17] three-phase generator which those pumps

[10:19] do require.

[10:21] » Great. Thank you. as our thank you. As

[10:23] our city manager said, someone will

[10:25] reach out to you from public works.

[10:26] » We really appreciate great to get back

[10:28] to you. And we also have some items

[10:29] coming up talking about some of the

[10:31] storm preparation we've done in the city

[10:33] as well. So, we'll also share some of

[10:35] that information

[10:36] » And thank you for your comment.

[10:39] » Bobby Martinez.

[10:46] Good evening, Mayor McQueen Leon, Mayor

[10:48] Pro Tim Hernandez, city council, me uh

[10:52] members of our community and our staff.

[10:54] I want to invite you all to our second

[10:57] annual fundraiser for the Wimi Sister

[10:59] Cities Committee. It's tacos, music, and

[11:01] games night. It's next Monday, September

[11:04] 14th, and it's from 5 to 8:00 p.m. at 6

[11:09] o'clock. We'll start the performance

[11:12] from the Weini High School Florico

[11:14] dance. And we're also going to have the

[11:17] oostas mariachi from the whole district

[11:20] perform. Right after that, we'll have

[11:22] games before and after and we'll have

[11:24] raffles. And I I want to invite you all

[11:27] and just let you know that as a way of

[11:29] saying thank you for letting us use the

[11:31] community center. I do have a ticket for

[11:33] all of you council members. Sorry, not

[11:35] the attorney or the city manager or city

[11:37] clerk. Sorry. Sorry. You guys will have

[11:39] to get your own. But um but hopefully

[11:41] you can all join us and it's for a great

[11:44] cause. Last year, we were able to

[11:47] put out scholarships or you want to

[11:49] think of them as prizes for the for the

[11:51] kids in our community that participated

[11:53] in the scholarship and we want to do it

[11:55] again and we want to do it bigger than

[11:57] we did it last year. So, um hopefully

[11:59] everyone can come out and support. I

[12:01] think it's a really good way to bring

[12:02] the community together and just en enjoy

[12:06] some of the great things that we're

[12:08] doing here in our city.

[12:10] » Thank you.

[12:11] » Great. Thank you

[12:14] » Ever Ariano and Steven GMA.

[12:24] » Thank you. Ever's going to make a

[12:26] request here and I just wanted to come

[12:27] and stand behind him. Had a

[12:29] long-standing relationship with his

[12:30] father, surfer, fisherman. Kind of don't

[12:33] quite see eye to eye, but uh his father

[12:36] was a beautiful person and I'm standing

[12:38] here behind him to support him.

[12:41] Hello. Uh, dear mayor and members of the

[12:44] Port Wayini City Council, my father,

[12:48] Romeo Oliggoni Ariano, passed away on

[12:51] March 14, 2025.

[12:53] Sorry, allergies.

[12:56] Prior to his passing, while in the end

[12:59] stage of his life, he asked to be taken

[13:01] to the Weini Pier for one last visit.

[13:06] While I was pushing him in his

[13:08] wheelchair on the pier, we came face to

[13:11] face with Mr. Gamma here.

[13:14] The interaction followed was priceless.

[13:17] My father had a long friendly

[13:19] relationship with Mr. Gamma going back

[13:21] many years.

[13:23] They had an ongoing discussion regarding

[13:26] the surfers

[13:28] who surfed near the pier. My father

[13:30] would say, "There's a whole beach.

[13:34] Why do they have to surf here where we

[13:37] fish?

[13:39] Mr. Gamble's response was

[13:42] um always the same because this waves

[13:45] are here.

[13:47] The relationships he had with pier and

[13:50] his fishing buddies personify

[13:54] the connections people have with the

[13:55] ocean.

[13:57] My father spent countless days fishing

[13:59] from the pier.

[14:01] For him, fishing was far more than a

[14:04] pastime.

[14:06] It was a meaningful expression of his

[14:08] Filipino culture and heritage.

[14:12] Each visit connected him to family

[14:14] traditions, treasured memories, and deep

[14:18] relationship with the Philipp Filipino

[14:20] community that has long been shared with

[14:23] the ocean here in the city of poor wine.

[14:28] My father became part of the life and

[14:30] character of Wine Pier. His familiar

[14:33] presence reflected the quiet beauty of

[14:36] our waterfront.

[14:38] People gathering across generations,

[14:41] sharing stories, practicing traditions,

[14:43] and finding peace beside the sea and

[14:47] interacting with surfers.

[14:50] A plaque honoring my father would

[14:52] recognize not only beloved local

[14:56] fishermen but also the cultural history

[14:59] and contributions of the Filipino

[15:02] community in the city of Porini.

[15:06] It would remind it would remind future

[15:09] generations that the story of our peer

[15:12] is written through way the lives of

[15:15] people who loved it and made it an

[15:18] integral part of their lives.

[15:22] Respectfully, I request that the city of

[15:24] Poor Wayne Oops.

[15:27] » Go ahead, finish your thought.

[15:28] » Allow or create a way to honor the

[15:31] memory and legacy of pure fishermen.

[15:36] Starting with my father by allowing our

[15:38] family to place a commemorative plaque

[15:42] on Wing Me Pier.

[15:47] » Great. Thank you. You done?

[15:49] » I s Sorry.

[15:50] » Okay. Go ahead.

[15:51] » Just one more paragraph.

[15:52] » One whole paragraph.

[15:54] » I sincerely hope the city will consider

[15:56] this heartfelt request and allow my

[15:58] father's memory to remain the in the

[16:01] place where he spent so many meaningful

[16:03] days, 40 years worth.

[16:05] uh such a tribute would provide comfort

[16:08] to his family and friends while

[16:10] preserving his connection to anime pier

[16:12] for generations to come. I note that

[16:15] there is a brick memorial near the

[16:18] entrance of the pier where families have

[16:19] bought a brick to honor their loved

[16:22] ones. My hope is that a similar program

[16:25] can be created so a uniform and improved

[16:28] method can be place in be in place to

[16:31] honor the many fishermen of

[16:33] » Okay pier. Okay.

[16:35] » Thank you.

[16:35] » Thank you so much. Thank you.

[16:37] » Can you just say your father's last

[16:39] name? You said Romero

[16:40] » Ariano.

[16:41] » Ariano. Thank you.

[16:46] » Thank you.

[16:47] » Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you.

[16:58] » Is that No more?

[17:00] » That concludes public comment.

[17:01] » Okay, great. Thank you. Okay, we're

[17:03] going to now move on to the agenda

[17:04] approval. Um, may I have a motion and a

[17:08] second to approve the agenda?

[17:10] » Move to approve.

[17:12] » There a second.

[17:13] » Second.

[17:14] » Great. Madame clerk, please make one.

[17:17] » All in favor?

[17:18] » All opposed? Hearing none. Motion passes

[17:21] unanimous.

[17:22] » Thanks. Do we have any members of

[17:24] council uh that have a conflict of

[17:26] interest to disclose for any item on the

[17:28] agenda?

[17:30] Okay, we'll move on to the

[17:32] presentations. We'll start with the

[17:33] National Suicide Prevention uh month

[17:36] proclamation.

[17:37] And so I'd like to welcome Maya Zumaya

[17:41] to the podium while um Council Member

[17:44] Perez reads the proclamation.

[17:46] » Thank you. Proclamation is in honor of

[17:49] National Suicide Prevention Month.

[17:52] Whereas September is recognized as

[17:54] National Suicide Prevention Month,

[17:56] providing an opportunity to raise

[17:58] awareness, reduce stigma, promote hope,

[18:00] and support those affected by suicide.

[18:03] Whereas suicide is a serious and

[18:05] preventable public health issue

[18:07] affecting individuals, families, and

[18:09] communities throughout Ventura County

[18:11] and across the nation. And whereas

[18:13] according to the Center for Disease

[18:15] Control and Prevention, suicide is one

[18:17] of the leading causes of death in the

[18:18] United States. And every life lost

[18:21] represents a profound tragedy for loved

[18:23] ones and the community. And whereas

[18:25] Ventura County Behavioral Health through

[18:27] funding provided by the Mental Health

[18:29] Services Act is supporting

[18:30] community-based suicide prevention by

[18:33] making evidence-based trainings

[18:34] available at no cost to the public.

[18:37] Whereas community partners including MZ

[18:39] Independent Consulting help advance

[18:41] suicide prevention efforts by

[18:43] encouraging community members to

[18:45] participate in free suicide prevention

[18:47] training such as QPR question persuade

[18:50] refer or living work safe talk to

[18:53] recognize warning signs and learn how to

[18:55] take action to save lives. Whereas the

[18:57] city of Port Weini recognizes the

[19:00] importance of fostering a community in

[19:02] which individuals feel valued,

[19:04] supported, connected, and encouraged to

[19:06] help to seek help when facing mental

[19:08] health challenges. And therefore, be it

[19:11] proclaimed that the city council of the

[19:13] city of Port Wanimi hereby recognizes

[19:15] the month of September 2026 as National

[19:18] Suicide Prevention Month and encourages

[19:20] all to take part in suicide prevention

[19:22] efforts by becoming informed, offering

[19:24] support, and promoting mental wellness.

[19:27] The city council further recognizes MZ

[19:30] Independent Consulting for its efforts

[19:32] in raising awareness and offering hope,

[19:34] support, and resources to those who may

[19:36] be struggling. Would you like to have

[19:39] words?

[19:40] » Yes. Thank you. Good evening, um,

[19:42] council members. I just want to thank

[19:43] again the city of Pro Wayne for honoring

[19:46] such an important topic and like the

[19:49] proclamation says, we are offering these

[19:52] free trainings. Um we just did six

[19:56] trainings today almost 400 students uh

[19:58] Deloul High School and we would love to

[20:02] partner with your city um those who have

[20:04] businesses in this city um nonprofits we

[20:08] would like to partner with you so that

[20:09] we can also make an impact in the city

[20:12] of Port Wayne. So um we have saved lives

[20:16] through these uh classes and work with

[20:18] people to help prevent suicide. So, it

[20:20] is making a difference, but we do know

[20:23] 988 calls are increasing

[20:26] um as well as suicides in our county.

[20:28] So, we would love for as many community

[20:30] members as possible to uh take advantage

[20:33] of these free classes. There's several

[20:36] different types at several different

[20:37] levels. Um so, there's something that

[20:39] fits everybody. We also encourage um the

[20:43] school district to participate as well.

[20:45] So, we're doing classes all across uh

[20:48] Oxnar Unified School Districts and we

[20:50] want to encourage um the city of Portway

[20:52] to partake as well. Thank you again for

[20:54] um honoring this uh very important

[20:57] month.

[20:59] » Thank you.

[21:00] » Um would you all like to go down for a

[21:02] photo?

[21:32] One, two, three.

[21:36] I want to do one for my husband.

[21:49] Let me see just in case.

[21:55] You have like

[22:12] Okay.

[22:14] for our next um

[22:18] for next uh proclamation. I'm going to

[22:20] go ahead and read this. Doesn't look

[22:22] like we have anyone to accept it, but I

[22:24] know you're going to have words after.

[22:26] Okay, great. This is the proclamation

[22:29] national preparedness month and 911

[22:32] remembrance. Whereas September is

[22:34] National Preparedness Month and offers

[22:37] us the opportunity to reflect on

[22:38] significant disasters we have

[22:40] encountered, including the September

[22:42] 11th attacks and recent winter storms.

[22:45] And whereas during this month, our

[22:48] community honors and remembers the lives

[22:50] lost on September 11th and the brave

[22:53] Americans who displayed extraordinary

[22:55] acts of courage and sacrifice. And

[22:58] whereas severe storms and other hazards

[23:00] remind us that we live in a world of

[23:03] constant risk where the next emergency

[23:05] could occur at any moment. And

[23:08] preparedness can mean the difference

[23:10] between inconvenience and tragedy.

[23:13] And whereas National Preparedness Month

[23:15] is a crucial opportunity for the

[23:17] residents and businesses of Portini to

[23:19] prepare for all types of emergencies

[23:22] whether at home work or in recreational

[23:25] spaces. And whereas National

[23:27] Preparedness Month encourages

[23:29] individuals to take steps toward

[23:31] personal preparedness, ensuring that

[23:33] households, workplaces, schools,

[23:36] institutions of higher learning, houses

[23:38] of worship, and community- based

[23:40] organizations are equipped to handle

[23:42] disasters and reduce loss of lives and

[23:45] economic impact in the event of a

[23:47] crisis. And whereas part participation

[23:51] in community emergency response training

[23:54] empowers more citizens to take action,

[23:58] enhancing their preparedness and

[24:00] understanding of potential disasters,

[24:02] whether natural or man man-made

[24:06] and equipping them with the knowledge to

[24:08] stay safe and mitigate damage. And

[24:12] whereas emergency preparedness is the

[24:15] shared responsibility of every resident

[24:17] of Port Wine and all are encouraged to

[24:20] prioritize preparedness by working

[24:22] together to ensure our community is

[24:24] ready for any type of disaster or

[24:26] emergency.

[24:28] And whereas engaging in National

[24:30] Preparedness Month activities will

[24:32] position Portini as a leader in

[24:35] preparedness and contribute to the

[24:37] overall resilience of our nation. Now

[24:40] therefore be it proclaimed that the city

[24:43] council of the city of Port Wimi does

[24:46] hereby proclaim the month of September

[24:49] 2026 as national preparedness month in

[24:53] the city of Port Winei and encourages

[24:55] all residents, businesses and

[24:57] organizations to participate in

[24:59] preparedness activities and contribute

[25:02] to building a more resilient Portini and

[25:05] further encourages all to honor and

[25:08] remember the lives lost on September 11,

[25:12] 20, 2001. And to recognize the courage,

[25:16] service, and sacrifice of those who

[25:18] responded. Proclaim this eighth day of

[25:22] September

[25:24] 2026.

[25:26] Signed for our council members. Over to

[25:28] you, city manager.

[25:29] » Thank you, mayor. And uh yeah, when we

[25:32] were put this agenda together a couple

[25:34] weeks ago, we put the agenda out last

[25:36] Monday. We were thinking uh that we were

[25:38] being proactive and ahead of the curve

[25:40] and uh trying to be prepared and remind

[25:43] our community to be prepared. Um as I

[25:45] mentioned earlier, we are planning to

[25:47] have some items related to preparedness

[25:49] come to council in coming uh months. Uh

[25:53] but we're also we're looking ahead to

[25:54] what we're hearing is going to be a uh a

[25:57] potential super El Nino this year. And

[25:59] so I think uh we wanted to start

[26:01] reminding people early to start

[26:03] preparing uh this year is that it has

[26:05] potential to be particularly problematic

[26:07] for Port Wayne with um potential uh

[26:12] storm surges, king tides and uh and uh a

[26:16] lot of rain in a short time period which

[26:18] is a bad recipe for us here in Port

[26:20] Wayne. Um, so we thought we were being

[26:23] proactive and then right after we put

[26:25] the agenda out, we got a hurricane

[26:27] notice last week, right? And so, uh,

[26:30] luckily the hurricane ended up not, uh,

[26:33] hitting Southern California, but it just

[26:36] kind of reflects that idea that those

[26:39] extreme weather events that used to be

[26:41] once in a lifetime aren't once in a

[26:43] lifetime anymore. I think we've had two

[26:45] hurricane

[26:47] uh warnings in the last three years and

[26:50] then between those we had one in 10,000

[26:53] year level storms. So, so it's

[26:56] definitely uh you know reminding

[26:59] everybody to take preparation emergency

[27:02] preparedness seriously. Um our list of

[27:04] things we're doing for preparedness is

[27:06] long. Uh even just things behind the

[27:08] scenes that people may not know about is

[27:10] things like uh creating a um uh working

[27:14] with the Red Cross to create a local uh

[27:17] emergency shelter, which is something

[27:18] that we've never had um uh specific to

[27:22] uh the city of Portland previously. Um

[27:25] uh and uh some of the work mentioned

[27:28] earlier, even just uh uh things that may

[27:30] not seem like emergency related, but

[27:32] things like removing all the debris from

[27:35] the creeks is done to ensure that the

[27:37] creeks can then move water in an

[27:39] emergency and that it's not going to

[27:41] back up. So, we're really trying to

[27:43] build emergency preparedness into

[27:44] everything we do. But we want to remind

[27:46] our residents as the as the uh

[27:49] proclamation said, it is a joint effort

[27:52] and it really requires everybody to be

[27:55] prepared uh and to take the steps to um

[27:59] to prepare for the next emergency. So,

[28:02] we wanted to give some reminders on

[28:04] that. We've also put some of this

[28:05] information recently in posts online and

[28:08] we'll plan to do more during National

[28:10] Preparedness Month. Uh but we wanted to

[28:12] remind people to prepare. Um learn the

[28:14] hazards where they live, work, and

[28:16] attend school. Plan how to evacuate or

[28:18] shelter safely. Uh include children,

[28:21] older adults, people with disabilities,

[28:23] and pets in plans. Keep emergency

[28:26] contacts current and written down and

[28:28] practice before an emergency occurs. And

[28:30] help your friends and neighbors prepare.

[28:33] Um the uh communication plan, we have

[28:36] some information here on on uh uh things

[28:39] that should be included in the

[28:40] communication plans, uh things like

[28:42] meeting places, uh evacuation routes, um

[28:46] household needs such as uh med

[28:49] medication. And we hear every emergency

[28:52] that one of the key things is people

[28:54] realize that they need uh medication or

[28:56] food for animals. So that's something

[28:58] else to just be prepared for. um and uh

[29:02] just uh keeping preparedness in mind and

[29:04] practicing and and updating uh plans and

[29:08] uh reviewing those every year. So, it's

[29:10] part of why we do National Preparedness

[29:12] Month every September.

[29:14] Um we also uh remind everybody to be

[29:18] prepared by building a kit, having a go

[29:20] bag, a stay box, uh water and food, um

[29:24] health and safety equipment, uh power

[29:26] and information. And I think that's

[29:28] becoming more and more common now with

[29:30] all the public safety power shut offs

[29:32] too, but being prepared and having uh

[29:35] you know uh phone chargers, battery

[29:37] powered uh items, power banks, things

[29:39] like that. And then um having copies of

[29:43] identification, insurance and contact

[29:44] information, cash and keys uh and

[29:47] comfort items for children and food and

[29:49] supply for pets. Um we also just want to

[29:52] take a moment to remind everybody of

[29:54] resources that are available. um uh for

[29:58] information. Uh there's a new one, so we

[30:00] really wanted to highlight that. But um

[30:02] VC Alert and VC Emergency, I know we've

[30:04] really tried to get the word out on

[30:06] those in recent years. I think a lot of

[30:08] people have signed up for those. Uh

[30:10] there's also Readyaccount.gov,

[30:12] but the new one that is just being

[30:15] released is Aware California, which can

[30:18] be found at aare.ca.gov.

[30:21] And uh I my understanding is our Ventura

[30:25] County Fire Department across uh the

[30:28] fire department across the county is

[30:30] really kind of moving to putting a lot

[30:33] of information on aware uh CA and so

[30:36] that's going to be a new key one. Um

[30:39] there had been like a third-party

[30:41] applications and things that were pretty

[30:43] re pretty good and pretty reliable but

[30:44] this is now going to be the the official

[30:47] uh public safety app. And so we had uh a

[30:50] lot of people on our team sign up for

[30:51] this recently and there's already

[30:53] significant amount of notifications and

[30:55] things on there.

[30:57] And then for some of these weather

[30:59] conditions that we're seeing, uh we

[31:01] remind everybody to check official

[31:03] sources for weather forecasts and

[31:05] warnings because you do see

[31:06] misinformation and um people some people

[31:09] seem to try to scare people. But um I

[31:12] know uh we had gotten an alert I think

[31:14] by Wednesday that there was no impact

[31:16] expected from the hurricane warning and

[31:19] then we saw that some people were still

[31:21] posting uh things which seem to try to

[31:23] scare people. But um having an official

[31:26] source like weather.gov is a good uh

[31:28] thing to bookmark so you can check

[31:30] during emergencies.

[31:32] Um, and as I said earlier, the key is,

[31:38] uh, really just getting preparedness in

[31:39] mind. Uh, and always trying to take

[31:42] steps to prepare and building those

[31:44] things into your plans. Um, and you

[31:48] know, just, uh, having thinking about

[31:50] being prepared every once in a while

[31:51] isn't really, um, doesn't really get you

[31:54] there. So, we remind everybody to take

[31:56] steps, uh, a step at a time. And uh

[32:00] every September, National Preparedness

[32:02] Month, um kind of check your checklists

[32:05] and uh your go bags and uh make sure

[32:08] you're getting uh you have accurate uh

[32:11] websites and things to get information

[32:13] from. So um I will just close with yeah

[32:17] with the uh we've had people ask are we

[32:19] concerned about the potential of the

[32:21] super El Nino? And the answer is yes.

[32:24] And uh what we would tell everybody you

[32:26] know is get prepared now. And we're also

[32:29] working on trying to get prepared now uh

[32:31] because uh the last super El Nino there

[32:34] were impacts to things like our

[32:36] infrastructure and things which just uh

[32:39] something like the pier is not built to

[32:41] withstand you know that those types of

[32:43] conditions. So, so, um, we're still

[32:46] we're trying to do the steps we need to

[32:48] do, but we also want to remind everybody

[32:49] to start preparing, uh, because right

[32:52] now it's still early being forecasted,

[32:54] but most people seem to agree that they

[32:55] think it will be, uh, impactful this

[32:58] year. So, we want to, uh, get prepared

[33:01] now. And, uh, our public works

[33:02] department has really, uh, taken um, uh,

[33:06] a lot of the effort of creating the the

[33:09] sandbags and distributing those

[33:10] sandbags. So, those are still available

[33:12] and people may want to get prepared and

[33:14] get some of those ahead of time as well

[33:15] in our public works yard. So, um and

[33:19] with that, uh that's all we have for

[33:21] preparedness month.

[33:22] » Can we have

[33:23] » Yes.

[33:24] » Okay. So, let's start. Um council member

[33:26] Lopez and Perez.

[33:27] » I know we're not supposed to uh we're

[33:29] not supposed to talk to public comments,

[33:31] but since we're talking about this, I

[33:33] want to direct my questions to you. Um

[33:37] would it be okay to um

[33:40] just to provide uh the city uh you know

[33:45] our maintenance upkeep plan and and the

[33:47] things that we're we're doing to prepare

[33:49] our you know the drainage. Uh

[33:53] just just a quick you know uh maybe

[33:56] public works can brief uh the city on

[33:58] the on the state of our drainage going

[34:01] out our our outflow. I think it would be

[34:04] good just you know so the residents can

[34:07] see what what uh what's what's been

[34:09] done.

[34:10] » Yeah. So like a um future presentation

[34:14] related to

[34:16] uh drainage

[34:18] » Work. Yeah. Yeah. We could do um or if

[34:23] the council

[34:24] uh would like that that's we could do a

[34:27] presentation on something like that. I

[34:29] can note that um for example, our teams

[34:32] went out and checked all the flood

[34:34] channels last week ahead of the hur you

[34:37] know the hurricane warning and that's

[34:38] something we typically do for each

[34:40] storm. Uh but if u the council could

[34:43] request a presentation on that.

[34:44] » Yeah. And then like let's let's talk

[34:46] about the areas that were flooded

[34:48] » Um and and things that we can do

[34:51] » Uh things any upkeep we can we can get

[34:54] in those areas as well. That's all I

[34:56] got. Thanks. So, regarding that to

[34:58] follow that, two of the issues that came

[35:00] up during the floodings were not our

[35:03] own. They were the pump station in

[35:06] Oxnard and then the channel for the

[35:08] county. Have any of those agencies have

[35:12] you been involved in conversations

[35:13] regarding those items since they were a

[35:15] problem the last time it flooded?

[35:18] » Yeah, I think um we've had several

[35:20] follow-up conversations with um with

[35:23] various agencies. the uh yeah, just to

[35:27] reiterate, the Channel Islands drainage

[35:29] and well, some of the other drainage as

[35:31] well are actually county um uh operated.

[35:36] Um, I think you may recall uh because

[35:40] you were the mayor at the time of uh

[35:42] that incident that um uh we had been

[35:45] told that the county uh drainage team

[35:47] would come uh do a presentation

[35:50] explaining a lot of you know what things

[35:52] that were done and things like that uh

[35:54] following the event. Um they ended up

[35:56] having a lot of staff turnover. So uh

[35:59] that never happened with that group. Um

[36:02] but uh we've had some meetings where we

[36:05] still initiated meetings to try to ha

[36:08] have the county to make sure that the

[36:10] county's aware of our concern. So we've

[36:11] had several meetings uh along those

[36:13] lines

[36:14] » And we were waiting on a report to

[36:15] actually

[36:16] » There's supposed to be a report and then

[36:17] they were going to come present it at

[36:18] council and that that ultimately did not

[36:21] happen.

[36:22] » And just a comment my husband was part

[36:24] of the rescue when that first El Nino

[36:26] came in. He remembers the water being

[36:28] waste deep in houses. So, it's if it's

[36:30] going to be worse than that, then

[36:34] » I think I recall us council being

[36:37] briefed about the the pump being

[36:40] replaced

[36:41] » And the mechanism on how it got um put

[36:45] out of service.

[36:47] » Um and I I think I even recall the

[36:49] photographs that were shown of us. So,

[36:51] » Yeah,

[36:52] » It was up there got stuck.

[36:54] » No, but we we had we had a pump station

[36:56] that Brian spoke. Is that correct?

[36:59] I I don't recall it's three years ago,

[37:01] but I know we we had um done some

[37:04] follow-up presentations on some of the

[37:05] items we had uh authority over, but

[37:08] there were some that the county was

[37:10] supposed to come back and present on as

[37:11] well.

[37:12] » Okay.

[37:14] » Did you have any comment?

[37:15] » I had comment and question. And I was in

[37:17] fact going to ask um during agenda

[37:19] review to um agendaize a discussion on

[37:22] what we can expect to happen

[37:25] um with this upcoming El Nino. Uh we

[37:29] hear it's going to be a super El Nino,

[37:30] but is it going to be super rain or it's

[37:32] going to be super drought? Um we don't

[37:35] really know, but I think we need to be

[37:36] prepared either way. And I appreciate

[37:38] the presentation that you did here

[37:40] tonight. Um James is uh very helpful.

[37:43] Um, but I think, you know, this talks

[37:45] about what the public should do. I think

[37:48] um to keep our public um reassured that

[37:52] the city's doing everything they can do.

[37:54] I I would like to hear that presentation

[37:56] on on our flood channels, what's being

[37:58] done, um where people can get sandbags

[38:01] and even how to place sandbags. And um

[38:04] FYI, the friends of the library and our

[38:08] um county library are going to be

[38:10] hosting on October 10th a community

[38:14] presentation on El Nino preparedness. So

[38:17] I think that uh and the city is going to

[38:19] be helping uh public works will be

[38:21] helping with that. So I think it's a

[38:22] good partnership and a good opportunity

[38:24] to get our our residents um better

[38:27] prepared. So more to come on that.

[38:30] » Great. Thank you. And mayor, um, we had

[38:33] one public comment regarding this

[38:35] presentation.

[38:35] » Okay.

[38:36] » Um,

[38:38] Mr. Martin Sanchez, you can go ahead and

[38:40] provide your public comment regarding

[38:42] the presentation.

[38:44] » Um, what I've heard is great. Um,

[38:48] however, you have to consider that no

[38:51] matter how much the homeowners prepare,

[38:55] it's going to overwhelm us if the main

[38:58] thing, the pump's not working.

[39:01] During the last time it flooded, I was

[39:04] personally out there and I noticed the

[39:06] big pump wasn't working. Only the 4-in

[39:10] one for the nuisance water.

[39:14] That's why I brought the issue about

[39:17] additional power. Why wasn't it working?

[39:21] I know that they have to cycle through

[39:23] it because they're not 100% cycle. And

[39:26] that's why they usually have two or

[39:28] three pumps. So there's complete cycle

[39:30] because they may be 33% cycle, 60%

[39:33] cycle, but they accumulate and there's

[39:36] at least one large pump working. A 4 in

[39:39] pump is not going to do anything. Keep

[39:41] in mind that that uh Scott Street is the

[39:44] lowest spot and it's the outfall for all

[39:47] the waterhed that comes from J Street,

[39:52] Pleasant Valley Road, Ventura, and Wimi

[39:55] Road. All the water heads there.

[40:00] All the water has to be handled by the

[40:02] pump into the creek.

[40:05] And if the pump's not working,

[40:08] how much uh no matter what you prepare,

[40:11] I had sandbags all the way around my

[40:13] house.

[40:19] » That's your comment. Thank you so much.

[40:24] And I think the um

[40:27] while you're preparing to speak, the

[40:28] council asked for an item to discuss

[40:30] city preparations to answer your

[40:32] question for a future meeting.

[40:34] » One last thing, if I may make one more

[40:36] comment.

[40:38] » Uh uh 10 seconds.

[40:41] » Okay. 10 seconds.

[40:41] » I I've lived this in this area since the

[40:44] early 60s.

[40:45] » I remember when there was nothing here.

[40:47] It was a flood plane. It was a wetland.

[40:52] » We took it over. We have to have serve

[40:54] the consequences. But at that time, the

[40:57] watershed was still existing.

[41:00] » Okay.

[41:00] » Now with all the buildings, the wershed

[41:03] is gone. So it has to go somewhere.

[41:05] » Yes. Thank you so much.

[41:06] » Yeah. So the the item that you're

[41:08] referring to would have to be a separate

[41:10] agendaized item. It can't be discussed

[41:11] on this agenda

[41:13] » By state law.

[41:14] » Yes.

[41:15] » Yes.

[41:15] » And we've discussed over the years, but

[41:17] we can schedule a future one.

[41:18] » Yeah. Someone's going to get get back to

[41:20] you. Thank you. Um so we are going to um

[41:24] we'll now recess from the city council

[41:26] meeting and call to order the housing

[41:28] authority regular meeting. The time is

[41:30] now 7:08.

[41:32] U madame clerk please take role.

[41:34] » Member GMA

[41:36] » Here.

[41:37] » Member Lopez

[41:40] » Here.

[41:40] » Member Perez

[41:41] » Here.

[41:42] » Vice Chair Hernandez

[41:43] » Here. Chair McQueen Leon

[41:45] » Here.

[41:45] » I'll let the record reflect that member

[41:46] Brown is absent.

[41:48] » Great. We will now hear public comments

[41:50] not pertaining to items on the agenda.

[41:52] Comments will be limited to three

[41:54] minutes. If you are participating via

[41:56] Zoom, please use the raise hand feature.

[41:58] This process will be the same for the

[42:00] agenda items. Madame clerk, are there

[42:02] any public comments?

[42:03] » No public comments.

[42:05] » Great. We'll now move to the housing

[42:07] authority consent calendar. Um, madame

[42:10] clerk, are there any public comments?

[42:13] So, I did that already.

[42:14] » No public comments for the consent

[42:16] calendar.

[42:16] » Perfect. Thank you. Okay. So, these

[42:19] items in the consent calendar will be

[42:21] approved in one motion unless an

[42:22] authority member would like to request

[42:24] to remove an item from the agenda. Any

[42:27] items to be removed?

[42:28] » I'd like to pull item three.

[42:30] » Item three.

[42:33] Anyone else?

[42:36] If not, is there a a motion and a second

[42:40] for items one and two?

[42:42] » Move to approve items one and two.

[42:44] » Second.

[42:46] Um, can we get a roll call, please?

[42:48] » All in favor?

[42:49] » I.

[42:50] » All opposed. Hearing none. Motion passes

[42:52] unanimously.

[42:53] » Great. Uh, Council Member Lopez, you can

[42:55] go ahead and talk about

[42:56] » Yeah. So,

[42:59] there there's um in in the

[43:02] dispersements. Um, there is a uh a

[43:05] catchall vendor account and it's um

[43:08] 99999

[43:10] and it's it's all it's all Willbrook.

[43:14] Um, is that like a catchall

[43:17] uh account number?

[43:22] » Can you say what page you're on?

[43:26] » Three starts at threeish

[43:31] of the

[43:34] dispersement sheet.

[43:39] » So you look at the vendor numbers.

[43:41] » What page was that? What did you say?

[43:43] » It just starts number three on the

[43:44] dispers dispersement sheet

[43:47] » For the housing.

[43:48] » Okay. It'll say like Willowbrook

[43:52] and they're just they're like 59s and

[43:55] some is that like a catchall number

[43:58] because what I noticed in the other

[43:59] dispersements

[44:01] it it's uh it's they're uh

[44:05] they're all nines as well for other

[44:08] other things.

[44:14] Yeah. Which um column? I see numbers

[44:18] ending in 524.

[44:19] » They're vendor numbers.

[44:20] » Uh it's on page 27

[44:23] of 74

[44:28] and it's the vendor number

[44:31] to the left

[44:35] of the page.

[44:37] » Okay.

[44:39] Yeah, I believe those are um if there

[44:41] isn't

[44:43] so these are all uh all these credits

[44:45] that show are like re uh refunds or uh

[44:48] and so I think it's if it's not a vendor

[44:50] with with a vendor number but a like a

[44:52] refund to a customer. Yeah. Then they're

[44:55] all categorized as 999999.

[44:58] » Okay. Just wanted to make sure that's

[45:01] » That that that's what I thought it was.

[45:03] » Yeah. I'll confirm that and I'll let

[45:06] everybody know if if uh there's some

[45:08] other meaning to it, but I don't believe

[45:10] so.

[45:12] » Okay.

[45:15] » All right. That's all I got.

[45:17] » Okay. Can I get a motion and a second

[45:19] for item number three?

[45:22] » Second.

[45:23] » Okay. Um Madam Cler,

[45:25] » All in favor?

[45:26] » I

[45:27] » I.

[45:27] » All opposed?

[45:29] » Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.

[45:32] » Okay. So, are there any um members any

[45:36] authority members uh have any reports or

[45:38] comments to make

[45:40] » This time?

[45:42] » No.

[45:43] » Go ahead.

[45:44] » Um

[45:45] I I received a letter from a resident of

[45:49] Mar Vista and uh I I forwarded the

[45:53] letter to a city manager to send over to

[45:56] Housing Inc. And uh I was hoping that we

[45:59] could be presented in the future with

[46:04] how the voucher program is administered.

[46:08] Um because I don't have any knowledge of

[46:11] how it's administered. I just know that

[46:13] we do have a voucher program and and I'm

[46:15] kind of vague on how it works. So um

[46:18] maybe in the future we could have that.

[46:22] what I'll do um

[46:25] I think the answer sort of depends and I

[46:27] think the first question is uh if it's

[46:29] an HHI duty and responsibility so I have

[46:32] forwarded it to um HHI to to ask for

[46:36] their input on it and um uh if it's not

[46:40] then it would still be a city council

[46:42] responsibility so then we could have a

[46:44] future item on on that but uh I

[46:47] forwarded it uh earlier today so I don't

[46:49] know the answer to that yet so Okay,

[46:51] thank you.

[46:52] » Any other comments? Okay, let's move on

[46:55] to the next item. Uh, so the Port Wine

[46:58] Housing Authority regular meeting is

[47:00] adjourned. The next regular meeting is

[47:02] scheduled for Monday, October the 5th at

[47:05] 6:30. We will now reconvene to the city

[47:08] council regular meeting. The time is

[47:10] 7:14.

[47:12] And we will now move to the city

[47:14] council's consent calendar. Uh before we

[47:17] do that, madame clerk, do we have any

[47:18] public comments related to the uh

[47:21] consent calendar?

[47:22] » No public comments for city council

[47:23] consent.

[47:24] » Okay.

[47:26] So, these items will be approved in one

[47:29] motion unless a council member would

[47:30] like to pull an item. Are there any

[47:32] items uh that you would like to request

[47:34] to be pulled from the consent calendar?

[47:37] » I have item four.

[47:41] » Item four

[47:42] » And item six. and six.

[47:47] Okay. Anyone else?

[47:48] » I was going to ask for item five to be

[47:50] pulled for just a quick question and

[47:52] also six.

[47:53] » Okay, great. Anyone else?

[47:56] Okay. Um, so can we can I get a motion

[48:00] and a second for items one through

[48:02] three?

[48:03] » Move to approve items one, two, three.

[48:06] » Second.

[48:07] » Great. Madam clerk, please make a role.

[48:08] » All in favor?

[48:10] » I.

[48:10] » All opposed? Hearing none. Motion passes

[48:12] unanimously. Great. Thank you. Uh,

[48:14] Council Member Lopez, do you have any

[48:16] What do you have for number four?

[48:18] » Yeah. So, I was looking at the conflict

[48:22] of interests for the bianual review and

[48:24] adoption

[48:26] on page one of 15.

[48:29] Um, there's a modification to position

[48:31] title. Uh, all the way at the bottom,

[48:34] the confidential analysts management

[48:38] analyst disclosure category one of five

[48:40] through nine.

[48:42] Um,

[48:45] but when you read the resolution, it

[48:48] states that that the disclosures are one

[48:51] and two in on page five of 15. So, I I

[48:56] just wanted to make sure that we

[48:58] annotated this, right?

[49:02] Yeah. And I would say the staff report

[49:06] that shows five and nine is incorrect.

[49:09] Uh, that's a typo. And um I'm guessing

[49:12] that was probably the prior categories

[49:15] uh and that one and two are were the

[49:18] intended changes. So um the idea being

[49:23] uh that uh similar to the senior planner

[49:26] position that was also created, but the

[49:28] management analyst and the senior

[49:29] planner work on very similar projects

[49:32] including with developers and things

[49:33] like that. And so um the highest levels

[49:36] of disclosure category level one and two

[49:39] would be appropriate for for those. So

[49:43] um so we'd recommend adopting the uh

[49:48] code and the resolution. Uh and we uh

[49:52] the the staff report has the typo.

[49:56] » Okay. So, will that change um the

[50:00] amendment checklist

[50:02] since we're revising disclosure

[50:04] categories because it's unchecked. So,

[50:07] » That that won't uh amend the checklist

[50:10] because the disclosure categories from

[50:12] the previous um conflict of interest

[50:14] code were one and two.

[50:16] » Okay.

[50:16] » So, they'll stay the same.

[50:17] » Got it.

[50:19] » That's all I got.

[50:20] » Thank you. Uh if no one else have any

[50:23] questions, um is there a motion and a

[50:25] second to approve item number four?

[50:28] » So move

[50:29] » Second.

[50:32] » All in favor?

[50:33] » I.

[50:34] » All oppose hearing. None. Motion passes

[50:36] unanimously.

[50:38] » Okay. Um mayor pro tip. Number five.

[50:42] » Item number five was approved coast snap

[50:44] cradle purchase and installation on the

[50:48] pier. Um I know it's a cost item. It's

[50:52] um the cost to our city is approximately

[50:55] $500. But I think this is incredibly

[50:58] exciting to me. It's I think it's a

[51:00] wonderful thing that's going to happen

[51:02] um for our residents to get involved in

[51:06] uh photographing our coastline and

[51:09] helping us track the movement of our

[51:11] coastline. And I'm just curious um

[51:14] James, Mr. City Manager, if you could

[51:16] just elaborate a little bit about how

[51:17] this came about

[51:19] » And whether or not we'll be informing

[51:21] our our residents about um these um

[51:24] these cradle uh snaps appearing on our

[51:29] beach.

[51:30] » For sure. Thank you. Yeah, I think it

[51:32] was um roughly a year ago uh when the

[51:35] city had partnered with Surf Rider to on

[51:39] the dune restoration project which is

[51:42] still ongoing and I see volunteers out

[51:44] uh frequently working on uh trying to

[51:47] restore the dunes out at Wayne Beach.

[51:48] So, if anybody watching hasn't been out

[51:50] there and seen the work going on, it's

[51:52] good to check out. But um when we were

[51:55] working on that with the surf riders, a

[51:57] couple of the surf rider members came

[51:58] forward and said, you know, the other

[52:00] thing that would be really helpful would

[52:01] be uh this co-nap cradle with the idea

[52:04] that it is a tool that helps the public

[52:07] help us document the movement of sand on

[52:10] the beach. Um and so uh we were

[52:14] interested in that but then we also kind

[52:16] of it got our wheels turning for

[52:19] everybody knows our dredge project is

[52:21] really important and how that sand

[52:22] moves. So then we talked to them about

[52:24] well could we do that and actually sort

[52:26] of tweak it to be focused on the dredge

[52:28] and and they were supportive of that. So

[52:31] so alto together I think um it's just a

[52:34] good result of that partnership with

[52:35] surf rider on the dune restoration. So,

[52:38] uh, good, like you said, good

[52:39] opportunity for public awareness and

[52:42] yes, uh, once it's approved and

[52:43] installed, we plan to do a lot of, uh,

[52:46] PR around telling people what it is and

[52:49] how they can help, uh, do that. So,

[52:51] we'll we'll plan for that.

[52:53] » It's a great idea. Thank you so much for

[52:55] bringing this to the before council.

[52:57] » Great. Thank you, Council Member Gab.

[52:59] » Yeah. Um, it's funny when you go out

[53:01] there on a daily basis and particularly

[53:04] when you transition from south swells to

[53:07] north swells, there's a huge difference

[53:09] in the amount of sand that's moving in.

[53:11] And as when James and I walk the pier,

[53:14] we always like see where the sand is and

[53:16] kind of make a mental note. And then

[53:18] when we come back the next time and

[53:19] inevitably the sand is either moved back

[53:22] or moved forward and that's basically by

[53:24] the water line. So, uh, yeah, this is

[53:26] good stuff. and uh really excited to to

[53:29] be able to share

[53:32] the differences between a north and a

[53:34] south swell.

[53:36] » Great.

[53:36] » I I have a question.

[53:38] » So, and I read through it. Great. Which

[53:40] is really great. Um but who's

[53:47] who's doing the like who's doing the

[53:48] surveys on this? Like is is it going to

[53:51] somebody?

[53:52] » Yeah. So, it's uh Coast Snap. Coast Snap

[53:56] has a uh program where the uh data is

[54:00] collected and and um uh posted on a page

[54:05] 9 of1. It shows their uh signage

[54:08] template and sort of how coap works and

[54:10] the co-nap website works. But we had

[54:13] talked to them about also, you know, we

[54:14] tal we talked to them about the dredge

[54:16] and talked to them about why we were

[54:19] really interested in it and, you know,

[54:20] would we be able to partner with them

[54:22] and use that data and then they

[54:23] indicated we could. So So that's

[54:25] something we

[54:26] » Do. So the day we install this is um who

[54:30] who's going to like you know what's the

[54:34] first photo that we're you know like

[54:35] that's they're going to collect.

[54:37] » Yeah. Well, might be us out there doing

[54:41] the ribbon cutting. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We

[54:42] probably know it's going to be

[54:44] » It. It'll kind of be like what the

[54:45] baseline is. I guess what I'm trying to

[54:47] tell when I'm trying.

[54:47] » Yeah. So, it'll, you know, the idea is

[54:49] um we install it and you know, the hope

[54:52] is that every day you have a couple

[54:54] people go out and stop by and get

[54:56] interested and take pictures. And so, it

[54:58] starts with with that installation. We

[55:00] It's not the only thing we're doing

[55:02] because we also have worked on um uh we

[55:05] now have the ability to do some aerial

[55:08] aerial photographs. So, we're doing

[55:10] those like monthly, too. But it's it's

[55:13] just more data. You know, from the

[55:15] monthly photograph, you can see what's

[55:17] changed. And we're hoping with this, you

[55:18] literally can tell where it's moving and

[55:21] what's happening.

[55:22] » Last question is, uh,

[55:25] I'm It's going to be on the pier.

[55:27] » Yeah.

[55:28] » And is there any legal language to say

[55:31] if their phone drops in the water?

[55:35] » Use at your own risk.

[55:37] » Air at your own risk. I um I think we'll

[55:41] try to install it in a location where it

[55:44] doesn't fall off the side of the pier,

[55:46] but um if if if it ends up because it is

[55:49] the challenge is it has to be in the

[55:51] right spot to get the right photo. So if

[55:53] it ends up where that's the case, we'll

[55:55] put some signage up to uh use at your

[55:57] own risk.

[55:59] » Got it. That's all I got. Thanks.

[56:01] » Okay. So, let's let's uh Is there a

[56:03] motion and a second to approve number

[56:05] five? I make the motion to approve

[56:07] number five.

[56:09] » Second.

[56:12] » All in favor?

[56:13] » I.

[56:14] » All opposed.

[56:15] » Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.

[56:18] » Okay. We'll move to item number six.

[56:19] Soul source purchase of ultra ultraflow

[56:22] arch pipe from contact engineer

[56:25] solutions for the Pearson Avenue and 8th

[56:27] Street storm drain replacement.

[56:29] » Um your questions. So this this

[56:32] particular item had a lot of timelines

[56:36] associated with it. Um so if

[56:39] manufacturing or shipping go past

[56:41] October 9th, uh contact can invoke an 8%

[56:45] increase, which is roughly $27,000,

[56:48] which would consume about the entire 10%

[56:50] contingency before even the pipe

[56:52] arrives. So uh the staff report states 8

[56:56] to 10 weeks. Um

[57:02] Are we are we going to sole purchase

[57:04] this Evan knowing that we're probably

[57:06] going to go into that

[57:09] that lead time issue

[57:12] » And conversations good evening mayor

[57:14] mayor council members of the audience um

[57:17] we've been in conversation with them

[57:19] already they they give that as a

[57:21] standard to get it but they don't

[57:24] believe it will even take that long to

[57:26] get that for our project. So, um there

[57:30] is the potential um but we don't believe

[57:34] that it's it's going to be something

[57:36] that is going to really impact that.

[57:41] » And with the with with everything now um

[57:44] it's not uh as it was in the past where

[57:48] a lot of uh companies kept stock on

[57:51] hand. Now a lot of times they don't keep

[57:53] anything until orders are coming in.

[57:55] However, they do have some of this

[57:56] available already. So,

[57:58] » Okay. And then there's uh 3,500 linear

[58:02] square feet of heavy arc pipe.

[58:06] Where are we putting this?

[58:08] » It's going to go down uh Pearson to 8th

[58:12] Street and make a right, go down uh 8th

[58:17] Street to McKon, make a left there by

[58:19] the school, and then a short piece on

[58:22] Eighth Place.

[58:23] » No, no. But where are we going to stage

[58:25] it while we're waiting on the manu?

[58:27] because we haven't even selected uh

[58:29] someone to put it in.

[58:32] » Oh. Um our thought was we would be

[58:34] staging it over at the by the port uh in

[58:37] the

[58:38] » At our Market Street

[58:39] » Market Street location

[58:41] » Because we're already taking heat for

[58:43] using that as a staging area, right? I

[58:47] let me answer it a little uh broadly,

[58:49] but I think we were getting uh

[58:52] complaints when it wasn't being it

[58:56] wasn't just the staging. It was other

[58:58] debris and things there and we've been

[59:00] cleaning it up. But we did receive a

[59:02] recent complaint, I would say, more

[59:04] focused on wanting to know what the

[59:06] long-term plan is. But in the meantime,

[59:08] because there isn't anything that can

[59:10] happen to that site in the next three

[59:11] months. So, I think using it as a

[59:12] staging for a critical storm drain

[59:15] project would be, you know, defensible.

[59:18] Defensible.

[59:19] » And then I assume we're going to as we

[59:23] receive this, we're going to inspect it

[59:25] prior to putting it there because what I

[59:29] think what I'm worried about right now

[59:30] is we're going to we're going to have

[59:32] this, no one's going to look at it. we

[59:33] get ready to install it and there's a

[59:35] crack and then you know the person the

[59:38] contractor who's who we contract to put

[59:41] this in they're going to be no you this

[59:43] is crack I didn't do this you guys did

[59:45] this and there's going to be some

[59:47] fingerpointing with this type of project

[59:51] um well the our intent is well we're

[59:54] concerned about vandalism as well so um

[59:57] we'll fence it and try and protect it

[1:00:00] obviously we can't 100% guarantee that

[1:00:03] somebody's not going to get into it. Um,

[1:00:05] but since it is a steel pipe, too. Um,

[1:00:10] it won't necessarily the worry isn't

[1:00:12] about cracking, but it's more about if

[1:00:13] somebody were to take something and go

[1:00:15] and bash it because it's got a very

[1:00:17] particular shape. So, then it would roll

[1:00:19] the edges of the pipe down, which would

[1:00:22] make it more difficult to join. But, um,

[1:00:25] again, we they'd have to do something

[1:00:28] really hard in order to get it. It's

[1:00:29] very thick gauge pipe. So, so ho how

[1:00:32] soon do you think uh once we take

[1:00:34] custody of this having a contract to get

[1:00:36] it installed?

[1:00:37] » We're already working on that as well.

[1:00:39] So, we're hoping that the timing will

[1:00:41] all be there so we have a date set. So,

[1:00:43] when we have the pipe come in when we

[1:00:45] know that we'll know in advance of when

[1:00:47] it's going to be shipped out, then we

[1:00:48] can set that

[1:00:49] » Um with the contractor to start

[1:00:51] immediately. So the Can you clarify the

[1:00:55] 675 foot gap that uh that's on North 8th

[1:01:00] Street?

[1:01:00] » Yes, that was a section that had been

[1:01:02] lined um previously. So it had a liner

[1:01:06] put in it because it had a it had a

[1:01:07] problem previous. So that has a liner in

[1:01:09] that. So rather than removing it because

[1:01:12] it's already been uh addressed with

[1:01:15] that, we skipped that section and we're

[1:01:19] we'll be attaching to each side of that.

[1:01:21] Got it. All right. Thank you. That's all

[1:01:23] I got.

[1:01:24] » But you have any questions?

[1:01:25] » I did. Um

[1:01:28] » I'm sorry. I told you. Go ahead.

[1:01:31] » I'm just um thinking about everything we

[1:01:33] talked about, we have a potential big

[1:01:36] heavy rain season. Um what if we're so

[1:01:39] unlucky that as you begin to try and set

[1:01:42] this pipe that we're in the middle of a

[1:01:43] major storm? What happens?

[1:01:46] um we won't be digging it all up at

[1:01:49] once, but even if it has started, then

[1:01:51] we can uh go ahead and put bypasses in

[1:01:54] in order to be able to go around while

[1:01:56] that if an event were to be happening.

[1:01:58] We're hoping that we can get this all

[1:02:00] done. It's it's a very shallow pipe,

[1:02:03] shallow in depth. So, um, that's one

[1:02:06] particular reason why we did this

[1:02:08] because of the

[1:02:11] design of the pipe allows us to put it

[1:02:13] in because it's literally right

[1:02:15] underneath the street. So, um, from that

[1:02:19] end, because it's not a deep trench, um,

[1:02:22] it the work will be able to go much

[1:02:24] quicker than you would expect on a on

[1:02:27] something.

[1:02:27] » So, will will this uh um increase the

[1:02:31] flow rate of that section? it it's not

[1:02:34] going to increase the flow rate. It's

[1:02:36] going to keep the same characteristics

[1:02:38] that it was designed for. Um, but it'll

[1:02:42] be new. And we've had issues with

[1:02:44] sections of the pipe already. So, uh, we

[1:02:46] wanted to make sure we got this because

[1:02:48] this from Bryce Canyon between Ventura

[1:02:53] and Jay essentially all the way down

[1:02:56] that everything up there runs surface

[1:02:59] flow until it gets to Pearson and then

[1:03:01] Pearson is the first It has to get into

[1:03:04] catch basins and then get into the pipe

[1:03:06] underground and go. But then all of that

[1:03:09] runs to the Bubbling Springs

[1:03:12] uh creek which then is dependent upon

[1:03:15] the county's flood control station

[1:03:17] operating properly in order to make sure

[1:03:19] that water keeps moving.

[1:03:22] And

[1:03:23] » If I could just point out because yes,

[1:03:26] like there, you know, there's all these

[1:03:27] concerns, but earlier we had talked

[1:03:29] about how we've prioritized storm drain

[1:03:32] related projects to really try to do

[1:03:34] what we can to try to, you know, prepare

[1:03:37] as much as we can. So, um, you know, I

[1:03:40] want to thank the public works

[1:03:41] department for trying to make sure to

[1:03:43] get this done this year ahead of, you

[1:03:45] know, any potential future weather. So,

[1:03:48] » Thanks Tim.

[1:03:50] » Yeah, thank you. So, um I had a a number

[1:03:53] of questions, but I think they've been

[1:03:54] answered. The one question um that I did

[1:03:57] want to ask was what caught my eye here

[1:03:59] is that you know the existing storm

[1:04:02] train drain pipe uh was originally in

[1:04:05] installed in the late7s. I'm imagine we

[1:04:09] have a lot of infrastructure that um was

[1:04:12] built and constructed in in those years.

[1:04:14] What does how does the city budget for m

[1:04:17] maintenance and replacement of our um of

[1:04:21] our pipelines and infrastructure? How do

[1:04:24] we we budget for that or prepare for

[1:04:26] that?

[1:04:26] » Yeah, it's been part of uh we've done

[1:04:28] some of those analyses over the last few

[1:04:30] years and started to try to prepare for

[1:04:32] like the conversation for upcoming uh

[1:04:36] needing to build these into future

[1:04:37] budgets. um they a lot of our

[1:04:41] infrastructure is from that period 60s7s

[1:04:45] which means it's now 50 60 years old

[1:04:49] which means it's now time to replace so

[1:04:52] so um we're we've been working on trying

[1:04:54] to build those things into the budget

[1:04:56] it's you know the council knows I don't

[1:04:58] need to repeat it but it's it's a

[1:05:00] challenge because I think um it is you

[1:05:02] know we're trying to budget for these

[1:05:04] now at a time where we're having

[1:05:06] decreased revenues uh and so it's just,

[1:05:08] you know, challenge on top of challenge.

[1:05:10] But it's part of what we said is we need

[1:05:12] to know the true cost of what it's going

[1:05:15] to take to maintain all these things to

[1:05:17] then be able to know what our true

[1:05:19] budget is, you know. So, so that's all

[1:05:22] um in the works, but um uh there are

[1:05:27] there are more projects uh where we have

[1:05:31] 50 year old infrastructure that we're

[1:05:32] going to have to deal with soon. Yeah.

[1:05:34] And uh I think uh we did the water

[1:05:36] presentation earlier with our you know

[1:05:38] um master plan that has you know several

[1:05:41] million dollars in water projects and I

[1:05:43] think um starting to build the uh storm

[1:05:46] drain or uh I'm sorry the wastewater uh

[1:05:49] uh lines in as well is is another key

[1:05:52] part of it. But the costs will there are

[1:05:55] costs out there still that we need to

[1:05:56] start planning for. So

[1:05:59] » Thank you. That's all I had. Thank you.

[1:06:01] » I just have one question. And so, um, we

[1:06:04] talked about this before, James. And so,

[1:06:06] when we get to items that are, um, are,

[1:06:10] uh, out of our general fund and we have

[1:06:12] not, they were not, uh, initially part

[1:06:16] of the budget. You will be telling us

[1:06:17] that, right?

[1:06:18] » Yes. And, uh, the good, you know, good

[1:06:21] news is that water and wastewater

[1:06:24] typically aren't general fund. Okay. Um

[1:06:27] so um you know so it's not necessarily

[1:06:31] you know competition with the other

[1:06:32] general fund items we want to do but I

[1:06:35] think um we're also working right now uh

[1:06:38] on our uh rate study utility rate study

[1:06:41] and I think that all of these we're

[1:06:43] trying to build as much as we can of

[1:06:44] these CIPs into those rates so that we

[1:06:47] know what actually has to be done to

[1:06:49] maintain all the systems uh into the

[1:06:52] future.

[1:06:54] Yeah. So, isn't this part of our

[1:06:56] drainage district?

[1:06:59] » It's part of our wastewater fund. Fred

[1:07:02] might know off hand.

[1:07:04] » The

[1:07:06] um drainage district itself isn't the

[1:07:11] standard storm drain pipe system. It's

[1:07:14] meant for the soft bottom portions of

[1:07:18] the channel

[1:07:19] » Bubbling springs.

[1:07:19] » Yes. So that's what it's for.

[1:07:22] » Got it.

[1:07:22] » And that's Oxards, right?

[1:07:24] » No, that's

[1:07:26] » There's a couple of sections that make

[1:07:27] under cross the bubbling springs is the

[1:07:30] cities.

[1:07:31] » Um there are a couple of portions that

[1:07:33] pass under um the streets that go over

[1:07:37] that the

[1:07:39] watershed protection district have

[1:07:42] jurisdiction over. So if something were

[1:07:43] to happen to these the underpasses, they

[1:07:46] have responsibility for those, but the

[1:07:48] rest of it is ours.

[1:07:50] » Yeah. I had a discussion with the

[1:07:51] library director last week and she

[1:07:53] mentioned something along Bubbling

[1:07:55] Springs belonging to Oxnar and I thought

[1:07:56] that was really weird. I had never heard

[1:07:58] that before.

[1:07:59] » I guess that's not correct.

[1:08:01] » No.

[1:08:01] » Okay, great.

[1:08:04] » There's a map in here and there's a

[1:08:05] little faint red line. Can you tell us

[1:08:07] what that faint red line goes?

[1:08:10] » That's the drainage.

[1:08:11] » Yes. Right.

[1:08:12] » That's where it currently runs. And

[1:08:14] we're just going to be replacing in the

[1:08:15] exact same place.

[1:08:17] » That that whole distance.

[1:08:18] » Yes. Except for where there's that

[1:08:20] separation that council member Lopez

[1:08:23] mentioned where it's already been lined

[1:08:25] in the past. We're skipping that

[1:08:27] section. So you see the red line going,

[1:08:28] it stops, and then it picks up down

[1:08:30] further.

[1:08:32] » That blank spot where there's no red

[1:08:33] line is the portion that we're not going

[1:08:36] to be replacing.

[1:08:40] » So this is a lot. more

[1:08:44] length than I thought.

[1:08:46] » It's a big project.

[1:08:47] » Yeah,

[1:08:47] » It's a big project.

[1:08:49] » Any other questions?

[1:08:52] » No. Okay. Um, can I get a motion and a

[1:08:55] second for item number six? Mo

[1:08:56] » Move to approve item number six.

[1:08:59] » Second,

[1:09:00] » Madam Clerk.

[1:09:01] » All in favor?

[1:09:03] » I.

[1:09:03] » All opposed?

[1:09:05] » Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.

[1:09:07] » Uh, thank you, Mr. Camaro. Appreciate

[1:09:09] I'm so glad we got that cleared up. When

[1:09:10] we first started talking about this, I

[1:09:12] thought we were talking about parking

[1:09:13] and I was so confused.

[1:09:15] » I'm like, does a pipe mean anything for

[1:09:18] parking?

[1:09:19] » Okay, so we're going to move to item

[1:09:20] number seven. Uh, consider approval of

[1:09:22] coastal development permit number CDP

[1:09:25] uh 2026-1

[1:09:27] and establishment of updated uh beach

[1:09:30] parking fees for Wanimi Beach Park.

[1:09:32] Madame Clerk, do we have proof of

[1:09:34] publication as required by law and a

[1:09:36] complete file of reports and exhibits?

[1:09:38] Yes, Madame Mayor.

[1:09:39] » Great. Will staff please present the

[1:09:41] report?

[1:09:41] » Yes, thank you.

[1:09:43] » There's a lot of uh technical jargon in

[1:09:45] this because um the California Coastal

[1:09:49] Commission has a lot of interest in

[1:09:51] making sure that beaches are accessible

[1:09:53] to the public. So, we have to go through

[1:09:55] a whole coastal commission process when

[1:09:57] we look at something like this. Um but

[1:10:00] uh so there's all that jargon in there,

[1:10:02] but really in short, what we're trying

[1:10:04] to do is we're recommending to the

[1:10:06] council that we finally increase

[1:10:08] increase our beach parking fees after I

[1:10:12] think it's been about 20 years or so, uh

[1:10:15] 18 years. Um so uh just to get that out

[1:10:19] of the way. Um, so just some background

[1:10:22] in history, uh, paid parking at Waynei

[1:10:25] Beach was initially authorized, uh,

[1:10:27] under a coastal development permit, uh,

[1:10:30] uh, in 1981.

[1:10:32] The last adjustment to the rates for,

[1:10:35] uh, beach parking was on August 6, 2008.

[1:10:40] So almost uh, almost 18 years to the

[1:10:43] date, pretty close. Um the uh 2008

[1:10:47] action increased hourly parking from at

[1:10:50] at that time from $1 to $2 an hour and

[1:10:52] all day parking from $5 to $8 per hour.

[1:10:56] Um the uh uh council the city had

[1:11:02] previously created a resident annual

[1:11:04] pass in 2002

[1:11:06] um uh and then a non-resident annual

[1:11:09] pass in 2008 and so those haven't been

[1:11:12] changed either.

[1:11:14] Uh so uh that means most of the uh rates

[1:11:19] have not changed over the last 18 years.

[1:11:21] Um we want to remind everybody that the

[1:11:24] uh beach parking fees are intended to

[1:11:26] help support beach operations,

[1:11:27] maintenance, repairs, and capital

[1:11:29] improvements. Uh ironically um people

[1:11:32] may have noticed we were out there uh

[1:11:34] our public works team was uh paving and

[1:11:37] restriping parking lots out at the

[1:11:39] beach. So, you know, those types of

[1:11:41] items are um paid for with these fees.

[1:11:45] And so, um uh we wanted to highlight the

[1:11:49] uh parking areas. So, where you can see

[1:11:51] the the teal letter P uh throughout

[1:11:55] there are the paid parking areas,

[1:11:56] parking lot A, B, C, E, and then in some

[1:11:59] of the um along Surfside Drive. Um, we

[1:12:04] also uh uh I think when we present our

[1:12:08] uh proposed parking increase to the

[1:12:09] coastal commission, there's typically a

[1:12:11] concern about having options for

[1:12:13] different levels of affordability. So,

[1:12:15] we have daily uh passes, but we also

[1:12:17] have the hourly pass, which is not

[1:12:19] always um typical in other cities to

[1:12:22] ensure that people have the ability to

[1:12:23] just drop in. But uh this map also shows

[1:12:26] that um there's also significant um

[1:12:30] areas still where somebody could park

[1:12:31] for one hour for free uh if they're

[1:12:34] further away from the beach. Uh but uh

[1:12:36] in other words, there's still plenty of

[1:12:38] public uh plenty of options for public

[1:12:40] access to our beach.

[1:12:43] Um the uh as proposed uh because it

[1:12:48] hasn't been uh or because it's been 18

[1:12:50] years since the last time the fees were

[1:12:52] increased, we did not um uh want to

[1:12:56] recommend adjusting completely for

[1:12:59] inflation and and seeing a larger

[1:13:01] increase than I think people would have

[1:13:03] anticipated. So, we propose um a uh

[1:13:07] increase to the hourly and all day

[1:13:08] parking rates of 25% which is pretty

[1:13:11] comparable to uh neighboring cities and

[1:13:13] we'll get we'll get to that or

[1:13:14] neighboring beaches. Um we also since

[1:13:17] the uh annual passes have haven't really

[1:13:20] been modified in the past, we

[1:13:21] recommended uh changing those but by a

[1:13:23] discounted 20% instead of 25 because we

[1:13:26] still want to encourage people to buy an

[1:13:28] annual pass and come visit our beach

[1:13:30] more often.

[1:13:32] uh and so um that would maintain the uh

[1:13:36] discount for uh the resident annual

[1:13:38] passes as well. So what that looks like

[1:13:41] you can see in the chart is currently

[1:13:43] today uh parking is $2 per hour, $8 per

[1:13:48] day or $50 for a resident annual pass or

[1:13:51] $100 for a non-resident annual pass. And

[1:13:54] so we're recommending modifying to 250

[1:13:57] an hour, $10 for the all day pass, uh

[1:14:01] $60 for the resident pass, and $120 for

[1:14:04] the non-resident pass.

[1:14:08] Um so obviously one question we get

[1:14:11] often is why would we need to increase

[1:14:13] it? And uh really it just comes down to

[1:14:15] the all the costs to uh maintain the the

[1:14:18] parking lots, but also the beach and the

[1:14:20] and the uh amenities we have at the

[1:14:22] beach. are increasing significantly.

[1:14:26] Um and so uh just we just completed some

[1:14:29] recent resurfacing work and it was

[1:14:32] significant uh cost. So um the uh

[1:14:36] parking lot or the parking fees would

[1:14:38] need to be increased to help balance

[1:14:40] those increase in costs. Um

[1:14:44] and uh we also confirmed that our

[1:14:47] existing parking machines can be updated

[1:14:49] to these new figures without the need to

[1:14:51] purchase additional or new equipment or

[1:14:54] other other items. Um and then just to

[1:14:57] look at uh we tried to also always keep

[1:15:00] in mind our you know uh nearby beaches

[1:15:03] and what those look like. I would say um

[1:15:06] that we were uh there's a couple of

[1:15:09] beaches and typically it's the beaches

[1:15:11] that don't have real like the amenities

[1:15:14] will have free parking or free street

[1:15:16] parking.

[1:15:17] Um probably one exception I think Silver

[1:15:19] Strand has amenities but a small parking

[1:15:22] lot and I think they have free parking

[1:15:24] but it's always full because it's a very

[1:15:25] small parking lot. Um and so uh those

[1:15:29] are the ones that are less than us. Uh

[1:15:32] but I would say other than that, most of

[1:15:34] the beaches in the area have increased

[1:15:35] to a higher cost uh at least in some

[1:15:38] way, whether it's the daily rate or the

[1:15:40] hourly rate. And so uh I think we're

[1:15:42] pretty middle of the pack. And then what

[1:15:44] what we're proposing being um minor

[1:15:47] increases, we're we kind of stay middle

[1:15:49] of the pack. Um and uh I would argue

[1:15:53] that with the amenities that we have

[1:15:55] being higher level, I would argue are

[1:15:57] higher level amenities than than other

[1:15:59] beaches in this uh price range

[1:16:00] typically. So,

[1:16:03] um,

[1:16:06] and, uh, we just wanted to show again,

[1:16:08] we mentioned that we didn't propose

[1:16:10] increasing it to in like to match

[1:16:12] inflation because we, um, uh, thought

[1:16:15] that that might be sort of sticker

[1:16:17] shock. Um, if we were to adjust for

[1:16:19] inflation, this chart shows that the

[1:16:21] hourly rate would be increased to $35,

[1:16:25] the all day rate would be over $12, and

[1:16:27] the annual uh rate rates would increase

[1:16:31] uh you know almost uh 50% from their

[1:16:33] current rates. Um but uh we didn't

[1:16:39] propose that and I just also want to

[1:16:41] note one reason we didn't propose that

[1:16:43] is also because typically the coastal

[1:16:44] commission also because their goal is to

[1:16:47] make sure that everybody has access to

[1:16:49] the beach they usually have a

[1:16:51] reasonableness standard. So we tried to

[1:16:53] kind of model ours after other increases

[1:16:56] that have been approved. Um and so uh as

[1:17:00] mentioned we we proposed not increasing

[1:17:02] it to that level.

[1:17:05] Um, and then what would this ultimately

[1:17:07] mean for the city? Um, just to give an

[1:17:09] example, uh, currently, uh, over the

[1:17:13] last three years, the beach parking

[1:17:15] generates about $300,000 a year. Uh,

[1:17:18] with these increases, it would likely

[1:17:21] generate increase to about four just

[1:17:24] under $400,000 a year. So, it's a good

[1:17:26] increase to cover some of the additional

[1:17:28] costs out at the beach, uh, which is

[1:17:30] really our goal. But um obviously we're

[1:17:33] trying to show that we're not trying to,

[1:17:35] you know, pass on fees to subsidize

[1:17:37] other costs. It really is related to the

[1:17:40] costs that we u are paying to to

[1:17:43] maintain the beach and the amenities in

[1:17:45] the parking at the beach.

[1:17:48] Um and as I mentioned a minute ago, uh

[1:17:51] one of the goals of the coastal

[1:17:52] commission is maintaining public coastal

[1:17:53] access. And so this would do so. And we

[1:17:56] wanted to highlight that free park free

[1:17:58] public street parking is still

[1:18:00] available. City walking and bicycling

[1:18:02] access is still available and the

[1:18:04] bubbling springs corridor still is

[1:18:07] accessible. Uh also there's still Gold

[1:18:09] Coast Transit District stops near the

[1:18:11] beach. So uh there's plenty of free or

[1:18:14] lower cost options to visit the beach.

[1:18:17] And then uh if somebody does want to

[1:18:19] utilize paid parking, I think our costs

[1:18:21] are still reasonable compared to

[1:18:23] neighboring beaches. So with that, like

[1:18:26] I said, there's some extra jargon uh

[1:18:29] that we don't typically have related to

[1:18:31] the coastal commission and the coastal

[1:18:33] review. So we recommend uh approving

[1:18:35] this and then that would uh our next

[1:18:38] step after that would be to then work

[1:18:40] with coastal commission to um confirm

[1:18:42] that it's u approved uh by coastal

[1:18:45] commission and uh

[1:18:49] there's a uh 10-day appeal period that

[1:18:52] coastal commission has has uh if it's

[1:18:55] not appealed the rates would take effect

[1:18:57] at the end of that 10day appeal period.

[1:19:00] Um, so, uh, we would announce, you know,

[1:19:03] we we would make sure to announce that

[1:19:05] and publicize it, uh, uh, before we

[1:19:08] implement it, but there is that 10-day

[1:19:10] appeal period where the coastal

[1:19:12] commission could appeal it. So, and with

[1:19:15] that, we recommend approving the uh,

[1:19:19] updated beach parking fees.

[1:19:21] » Great. Are there questions?

[1:19:24] » Um, go ahead. So what's the likelihood

[1:19:27] of coastal commission coming back and

[1:19:29] appealing this within within 10 days?

[1:19:32] You never know because uh you know it

[1:19:34] could be you know um this so let me take

[1:19:38] a step back and say uh this permit is

[1:19:41] relatively minor for Coastal Commission

[1:19:43] and that's why it's just this 10-day

[1:19:45] appeal period versus some of like our

[1:19:47] ordinance changes actually have to go

[1:19:48] through like a review with Coastal

[1:19:51] Commission. With this essentially if

[1:19:52] nobody appeals it, it's approved. Um, so

[1:19:56] it's lower odds, but you also just never

[1:19:59] know. And, uh, I think Ventura this year

[1:20:02] approved theirs and got appealed, but I

[1:20:05] think what we had had heard was that it

[1:20:07] might have been appealed because they

[1:20:09] didn't go through the normal coastal

[1:20:11] commission process. So, it was almost

[1:20:12] more just appealed to make sure they

[1:20:14] were going through the process. So, um,

[1:20:16] we we we're trying to make sure we nip

[1:20:18] all that uh, in the bud up front and go

[1:20:21] through that process. So, we I would say

[1:20:23] we're pretty confident on on this, but

[1:20:26] you just never know. So, that's all I

[1:20:28] have. Thank you.

[1:20:29] » Thank you. Anyone else?

[1:20:31] » Yeah, I just wanted to add that uh $60

[1:20:34] for our annual pass is a really good

[1:20:36] deal. Every fisherman at the pier has

[1:20:39] one and uh I have three of them for our

[1:20:42] three cars and uh it it's the best deal

[1:20:44] in town. It still will be the best deal

[1:20:46] in town after this gets approved. So,

[1:20:50] » Mayor pro tip. Yeah. Thank you for um

[1:20:52] the presentation and I just just had one

[1:20:56] um question about the uh the fee

[1:20:59] increase covering our costs. Um how

[1:21:01] comfortable are you

[1:21:03] » Um because I I didn't see any mention of

[1:21:04] what those costs are?

[1:21:06] » Um but are you comfortable that the 415k

[1:21:10] is going to cover our annual costs and

[1:21:12] does that include the restrooms as well?

[1:21:14] » Yeah, I think uh it gets us closer to

[1:21:16] it. I think uh one of the challenges is

[1:21:19] like um some things we have to do

[1:21:22] regularly, sometimes we some things we

[1:21:24] do periodically. We don't uh you know

[1:21:26] pave and stripe the parking lots every

[1:21:28] year for example. So a year like this

[1:21:30] year it probably won't cover the costs

[1:21:33] but I think we're think on a yearly

[1:21:35] basis that that we're pretty close. Um

[1:21:39] but I also think you know one thing that

[1:21:42] um like we said we didn't increase it to

[1:21:45] the level of inflation but I think as we

[1:21:50] kind of keep getting that data and we

[1:21:52] know all the true costs that it's

[1:21:55] probably not going to be 18 years before

[1:21:57] we're talking about another increase.

[1:22:00] Um, so, uh, so I think we're getting

[1:22:02] closer to covering all the costs and

[1:22:04] then it's just something we we expect to

[1:22:06] continue to monitor, uh, more closely.

[1:22:09] » Okay, great. Thank you.

[1:22:11] » Any other questions? No.

[1:22:13] » Um, so um, I'll now open the public

[1:22:17] hearing and take comments. It's 7:49.

[1:22:23] You already public comments. Uh, 49. U

[1:22:27] Madame Clerk, do we have any public

[1:22:28] comments? No public comments.

[1:22:30] » Great. I'll now close the public public

[1:22:33] hearing. Um, and now the time is 7:49

[1:22:36] still.

[1:22:38] » Okay. So, we have before us the

[1:22:40] recommendation to Is that on in your

[1:22:43] That's not on your slide deck, is it?

[1:22:45] » Oh, let me I hope so because I know it's

[1:22:48] lengthy.

[1:22:56] » Uh, I'll have it. Uh, I think you could

[1:22:59] note unless the city attorney tells me

[1:23:01] uh know that it's as drafted.

[1:23:04] » Can I Can I just refer to it rather than

[1:23:06] read the whole thing?

[1:23:06] » I think so.

[1:23:07] » That's correct.

[1:23:08] » Okay, great. Thank you. We have before

[1:23:10] us the re recommendation um items number

[1:23:13] three, four, and five. May I have a

[1:23:16] motion and a second to approve item

[1:23:20] number seven?

[1:23:21] » Move to approve. Second.

[1:23:24] » Madame clerk, please take role. Council

[1:23:27] member GMA.

[1:23:29] » Yes.

[1:23:30] » Council member Lopez.

[1:23:31] » My apologies. I apologize for the

[1:23:32] interruption. I believe there should be

[1:23:34] a discussion on the motion now that we

[1:23:36] had public uh comments along with the

[1:23:38] » Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry.

[1:23:39] » Before the voting.

[1:23:40] » You're right. Thank you. Sorry y'all. Uh

[1:23:42] was there any further discussion? I

[1:23:44] think we we got to a no. I think it's

[1:23:47] long overdue and um

[1:23:50] for what it's worth um some of the more

[1:23:52] successful landlords I know they

[1:23:55] increase their rent every year which you

[1:23:57] know and I don't know if that's

[1:23:59] something that we should consider in our

[1:24:00] parking but um I think uh waiting 18

[1:24:03] years might be a little too long

[1:24:05] » Agreed

[1:24:07] » Great ahead comment in speaking to some

[1:24:10] of the residents along uh Surf Side and

[1:24:12] we were talking about um our our budget

[1:24:15] situation

[1:24:16] and discussing economic um

[1:24:19] opportunities, economic development

[1:24:21] opportunities. They recommended this.

[1:24:24] They said, "Let's increase. Why don't we

[1:24:26] just increase the the parking fees?"

[1:24:27] They probably haven't been um raised in

[1:24:30] some time. So, I think the public um our

[1:24:33] residents will also support this.

[1:24:35] » Some will, some won't. Some will make

[1:24:37] comments that we're trying to get rich.

[1:24:40] » Yeah. Definitely not getting rich, but

[1:24:42] it's it's helping us keep the beach the

[1:24:44] jewel it is.

[1:24:46] » Okay. So that we stay on track. Can I

[1:24:49] get the motion again and the second?

[1:24:51] » Move to approve.

[1:24:53] » Second.

[1:24:54] » Second.

[1:24:55] » Okay. Great. Thank you, Madam Clerk,

[1:24:57] please.

[1:24:58] » Okay. Council member GM.

[1:25:00] » Yes.

[1:25:01] » Council member Lopez.

[1:25:02] » Yes.

[1:25:03] » Council member Perez.

[1:25:04] » Yes.

[1:25:05] » Mayor Prom Hernandez.

[1:25:06] » Yes.

[1:25:06] » Mayor McQueen Leon.

[1:25:08] » Yes.

[1:25:08] » Motion passes unanimously.

[1:25:10] » Great. Thank you. We'll move to the

[1:25:11] business item number uh eight uh second

[1:25:13] reading and adoption of the ordinance

[1:25:15] adding chapter 10 to article five of the

[1:25:18] Port Wayne Municipal Code regulating

[1:25:20] short-term rentals. Staff, please

[1:25:23] present the report. That be our city

[1:25:25] manager again.

[1:25:27] » Yes, thank you. So, I know we've talked

[1:25:30] about the um short-term rental ordinance

[1:25:33] uh many times over the last couple

[1:25:35] years, and I everybody's probably tired

[1:25:36] of seeing some of these slides, so I

[1:25:38] won't go over them in in a lot of

[1:25:40] detail. I'll note this is the second

[1:25:42] reading. Typically, the second reading

[1:25:44] can be a consent item, and we usually

[1:25:47] don't even really talk about it again,

[1:25:48] but we wanted to talk about it because

[1:25:51] we had gotten questions about the

[1:25:52] implementation of it. So, we just wanted

[1:25:54] to try to be transparent about that. But

[1:25:56] uh I'll go over the rest of it briefly

[1:25:59] for that uh for that reason. Um but uh

[1:26:02] as we've discussed um we initially

[1:26:05] started receiving uh complaints and

[1:26:06] inquiries about short-term rentals back

[1:26:08] in October of 2024. We've had many

[1:26:11] public conversations and I think uh you

[1:26:13] know we said last meeting that both

[1:26:15] proponents and opponents I think that

[1:26:17] the city council really made an effort

[1:26:20] to be responsive to and um recommended

[1:26:25] or directed that staff make some changes

[1:26:28] over the year. Uh both

[1:26:31] uh some good points that the opponents

[1:26:33] made and good good points that the

[1:26:34] proponents made. So, I think we got to a

[1:26:37] point uh not to jinx it, but I don't

[1:26:39] think anybody's here tonight. So, I

[1:26:41] think that means we got to a point that

[1:26:43] everybody can live with the ordinance,

[1:26:44] and that's a uh a good sign. Um, and so,

[1:26:49] uh, what the ordinance includes is, uh,

[1:26:52] I think what we heard from everybody is

[1:26:54] everybody was on board with some, uh,

[1:26:56] city regulations, some city oversight

[1:26:59] with the goal being really to ensure

[1:27:02] that the owners, um, are just being

[1:27:05] responsible and accountable and um,

[1:27:08] managing their um, rentals and not, you

[1:27:11] know, having party houses or other uh,

[1:27:13] issues like that. And so the ordinance

[1:27:16] uh requires um uh a few things. It

[1:27:20] requires an annual permit uh a valid uh

[1:27:23] business license. Um it the permits are

[1:27:27] uh one-year non-transfer transfer

[1:27:29] non-transferable permits that expire

[1:27:31] upon a change in ownership. So if a new

[1:27:34] owner buys the property, they have to

[1:27:35] come in and go through the same process

[1:27:36] and and confirm that they're going to

[1:27:38] follow all these requirements. Um, it

[1:27:42] requires uh ownership disclosure and has

[1:27:45] eligibility requirements. Um, and then

[1:27:48] uh it uh by state law, short-term

[1:27:52] rentals are prohibited in accessory

[1:27:53] dwelling units, affordable housing

[1:27:55] units, and mobile homes. So, it includes

[1:27:56] that prohibition. Um, and then uh we

[1:27:59] include a 10% citywide cap um of uh 10%

[1:28:05] of all city housing units. uh maximum of

[1:28:08] 10% of all city housing units. It

[1:28:10] includes a uh program review

[1:28:12] approximately one year after

[1:28:14] implementation

[1:28:15] and uh everybody may recall it's really

[1:28:19] focused on what we call good neighbor

[1:28:20] standards. It we tried not to go

[1:28:23] overboard with all the require

[1:28:24] requirements but really focus on the

[1:28:26] complaints we were hearing and the

[1:28:28] concerns that people would have where

[1:28:29] they just want to make sure that

[1:28:30] neighbors are being good neighbors. And

[1:28:32] so some of the things that includes is

[1:28:34] things like quiet hours so that there's

[1:28:36] not parties in the middle of the night.

[1:28:38] Um that there's u parking provided uh on

[1:28:43] the property for guests, whether that's

[1:28:45] a garage or a driveway. U but that

[1:28:47] there's parking so that the uh a

[1:28:49] short-term rental tenant isn't taking up

[1:28:51] all the parking off the street. Um trash

[1:28:54] management requirements. Um information

[1:28:57] provided so that uh tenants can call the

[1:29:00] landlord with any questions or concerns.

[1:29:03] um life safety requirements.

[1:29:06] A 24-hour local contact and city

[1:29:08] approved nuisance response plan is is

[1:29:10] also required. Notification of owners

[1:29:13] and occupants within 200 feet uh and

[1:29:16] applicable homeowners associations so

[1:29:18] that people know who's doing it and know

[1:29:21] to how to contact them. Uh and then

[1:29:24] requirements that the landlords respond

[1:29:26] or landlords or property managers

[1:29:28] responsible respond within uh certain

[1:29:30] time frames of of complaints. Um, and

[1:29:33] then the last two pieces here are more

[1:29:35] on the back end of it allows for

[1:29:37] different ways for the city to monitor

[1:29:39] online listings uh and uh allows for

[1:29:42] fines if people violate those

[1:29:44] requirements. Um, so one of the reasons

[1:29:48] why this wasn't just a consent uh item

[1:29:50] today is because we did get some calls

[1:29:53] and it led to some conversations where

[1:29:55] we started to realize that the messaging

[1:29:59] is going to be very complicated or

[1:30:01] confusing if we try to have two separate

[1:30:05] start dates based on whether you're in

[1:30:07] coastal comm uh coastal commission zone

[1:30:09] or not. And we realized it, you know,

[1:30:12] it's doable and we've done it in the

[1:30:15] past on different things, but in this

[1:30:16] case, what we realized is that there's a

[1:30:19] possibility that coastal commission if

[1:30:21] they have changes that we might then it

[1:30:24] might change something that we're

[1:30:25] already trying to enforce on somebody

[1:30:27] else and that might cause more confusion

[1:30:30] and then you know, do we have two

[1:30:32] separate set of rules or would we want

[1:30:33] to come back and talk about one set of

[1:30:35] rules? So, we just really talked about

[1:30:38] that confusion and uh I know I sent an

[1:30:41] email to council on this but you know

[1:30:43] and then we realized that even some of

[1:30:45] our messaging we started to put out

[1:30:46] where we said you know if you're in the

[1:30:48] coastal zone this if you're outside this

[1:30:50] and the first question we got is am I in

[1:30:52] the coastal zone and uh sort of

[1:30:55] realizing that not everybody pays

[1:30:57] attention to whe whether they're in that

[1:30:59] zone. So, we just um you know, we talked

[1:31:03] about it and it's it could be done, but

[1:31:05] we just think it's going to cause more

[1:31:06] problems than it solves, especially I

[1:31:09] think we all talked about this

[1:31:10] throughout the process, but uh right now

[1:31:13] 99% of our short-term rentals are in the

[1:31:15] coastal zone. So, and I would say all

[1:31:18] the complaints that we have ever

[1:31:19] received are within the coastal zone.

[1:31:22] So, it's really would confuse people who

[1:31:24] are outside of it without much benefit.

[1:31:26] So, so we proposed and we included in

[1:31:29] the ordinance language basically saying

[1:31:31] that it would become effective upon

[1:31:33] coastal commission approval and if there

[1:31:36] was a significant change or

[1:31:38] modification, we'd come back to council

[1:31:40] » And you know and and make sure that we

[1:31:42] have that conversation, but that we uh

[1:31:45] would recommend sort of um keeping them

[1:31:48] consistent and uh holding off on

[1:31:51] enforcement until we hear back from

[1:31:53] Coastal Commission.

[1:31:55] Uh and so this this reiterates some of

[1:31:58] those points I just made about trying to

[1:31:59] be consistent and clear and not cause

[1:32:02] confusion amongst amongst groups. So

[1:32:05] um and so uh with that all being said uh

[1:32:10] we also uh included the information and

[1:32:12] laid out the process for that uh for the

[1:32:14] coastal commission review. So following

[1:32:16] adoption, the ordinance would be

[1:32:18] submitted to California Coastal

[1:32:19] Commission as an amendment to the city's

[1:32:21] local coastal program. And so I

[1:32:23] mentioned earlier, you know, we actually

[1:32:25] we haven't had a whole lot of uh items

[1:32:28] that go through coastal commission

[1:32:29] recently, but today we have, you know,

[1:32:31] two with the beach parking fees and

[1:32:33] this, but the beach parking fees is like

[1:32:35] a lower level where it's essentially

[1:32:37] just uh if coastal commission doesn't

[1:32:39] appeal our action, then it takes effect.

[1:32:42] This is a higher level because it's

[1:32:44] actually a change to our local coastal

[1:32:45] program. And so we expect a little bit

[1:32:49] more interaction and uh we could have

[1:32:52] you know modifications or amendments

[1:32:55] come back from coastal commission. So um

[1:32:58] again that's where we just you know we

[1:33:00] see uh the treatment of the beach

[1:33:04] parking fees as simpler than uh this

[1:33:08] will likely be. So, so while the coastal

[1:33:12] commission review is pending, we still

[1:33:13] will require the business license uh

[1:33:16] because that should have been something

[1:33:17] that we've been requiring all along uh

[1:33:20] for operators, the uh toot payment

[1:33:23] requirements will remain in effect in

[1:33:25] effect. And then uh we will um prepare

[1:33:29] uh we're already working on getting the

[1:33:31] application materials, the permit forms,

[1:33:33] the notification templates and uh uh

[1:33:36] public outreach ready for so that when

[1:33:38] coastal commission does approve it,

[1:33:40] we're ready to launch everything pretty

[1:33:42] quickly there there from. So, um, so,

[1:33:46] uh, the key thing after all that is said

[1:33:49] and done is really the only change from

[1:33:51] the last meeting and the reason why we

[1:33:52] wanted to verbalize it is we're

[1:33:55] recommending not making it effective

[1:33:58] until Coastal Commission approves. So,

[1:34:01] with that, uh, we recommend council

[1:34:03] adopt it and, uh, with that

[1:34:05] modification.

[1:34:07] » Any questions?

[1:34:11] Um, I just have one one comment. Um, it

[1:34:14] might be nice. I don't know if we've if

[1:34:16] we

[1:34:17] » I apologize for interrupting. Um, but

[1:34:19] that the comments will come after public

[1:34:21] comments later. This portion is just

[1:34:23] reserved for questions.

[1:34:26] » Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I It is

[1:34:28] going to be a question, I think.

[1:34:29] » Okay. Thank you.

[1:34:30] » Have we have we I don't recall at any

[1:34:33] time that that we have communicated out

[1:34:36] to the community

[1:34:39] what part of our city is within the

[1:34:41] coastal.

[1:34:44] Have we ever done that?

[1:34:46] » Um

[1:34:47] I was going through my mind and I'm like

[1:34:49] we we've talked about it here a lot but

[1:34:51] no we've never done like a posting.

[1:34:53] Yeah. And

[1:34:55] » Might be an interesting idea of just you

[1:34:57] know educating people on what that means

[1:34:59] to you. So

[1:35:01] » Yeah and the map. Yeah.

[1:35:02] » Yeah. That's you know for me it was

[1:35:04] something that hit me because we talk

[1:35:06] about it, we look at it. we show it on

[1:35:08] screen and then when we started getting

[1:35:10] people asking and we were like well if

[1:35:12] you're in the coastal zone no

[1:35:14] » Right

[1:35:14] » And then uh they were like am I and it's

[1:35:16] like oh oh that's right and I will

[1:35:18] always remind everybody and admit

[1:35:20] » I lived right down the street uh for

[1:35:22] many years I assumed I was in the

[1:35:24] coastal zone but I guess I never checked

[1:35:26] that so like I we realize we can't

[1:35:29] expect everybody to you know know that

[1:35:31] » But that's something we could do is

[1:35:34] » Do some sort of outreach on that

[1:35:35] » Because I know in addition to the

[1:35:38] question I'm asking

[1:35:40] » Uh because I I think that I am in the

[1:35:42] coastal area but the condos next to me

[1:35:47] are not so it's cut really

[1:35:49] » Yeah there's a there's a confusing line

[1:35:53] and uh I think you are correct and I

[1:35:55] think it it's one of the uh associations

[1:35:58] is in and the other is out.

[1:36:00] » Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Any other any other

[1:36:02] questions? Oh go right ahead. So,

[1:36:06] um what do you expect the um designated

[1:36:09] reporting method to look like um for a

[1:36:12] complaint? How is that going to work?

[1:36:15] » So, uh we are currently working with the

[1:36:18] community development on uh getting all

[1:36:21] the templates ready. Um,

[1:36:24] it's funny because last meeting I had

[1:36:26] said that uh we don't have like

[1:36:28] standalone software for for short-term

[1:36:31] rentals, but our community development

[1:36:33] team actually has been launching open

[1:36:36] gov and they actually think there's

[1:36:37] going to be the capability to do a lot

[1:36:39] of these functions in open gov. So it

[1:36:42] could I don't know. I guess the short

[1:36:45] answer is I don't know yet, but the

[1:36:47] longer answer is we're looking at trying

[1:36:49] to create like the portal that that I I

[1:36:51] think the council was interested in the

[1:36:53] prior meeting in open gov and as much of

[1:36:55] the things that we can do in there uh

[1:36:58] you know the complaint form the

[1:36:59] application process we will try to do

[1:37:01] that and have like one um you know uh

[1:37:05] link for people to be able to access and

[1:37:07] and report these different things.

[1:37:10] » Uh second question do we know how much

[1:37:12] revenue that this potentially might

[1:37:15] bring in

[1:37:16] » Yeah additional revenue. I mean, it's um

[1:37:19] it's a tough question because the

[1:37:21] question becomes,

[1:37:23] you know, and we had the numbers in the

[1:37:24] last report. Every time I try to do it

[1:37:26] off the top of my head,

[1:37:27] » 57,000.

[1:37:28] » I was going to say I thought it was

[1:37:29] 50,000ish,

[1:37:31] you know. So, um we're up to 50,000,

[1:37:33] which I will also point out. We've

[1:37:36] actually been increasing that each year.

[1:37:37] Whether that's because we're enforcing,

[1:37:41] you know, the requirements for toot or

[1:37:43] whether there's actually more operating,

[1:37:45] you know, it's probably a combination of

[1:37:47] the two. But, um, you know, there's

[1:37:49] always the question like, are there

[1:37:50] others operating that we don't know yet

[1:37:52] and when we do this big, you know, roll

[1:37:54] out, maybe some of those start, you

[1:37:56] know, either somebody turns them in or

[1:37:59] they just voluntarily start complying

[1:38:01] once they get informed of this. So, you

[1:38:04] know, I would estimate I think we'd

[1:38:06] always be well, in the short term, we'll

[1:38:08] be in the $50 to $100,000 range. That's

[1:38:10] my guess.

[1:38:11] » Great. Thank you. That's all I said.

[1:38:12] » In the short term, rental.

[1:38:15] » I do.

[1:38:16] » You have a question for Yeah. Council

[1:38:18] member

[1:38:18] » Parking. Um, so public parking in front

[1:38:21] of a house is, you know, you can't get

[1:38:24] angry when someone parks in front of

[1:38:26] your house. And so I'm wondering how are

[1:38:27] we going to address the STR parking

[1:38:32] rules?

[1:38:34] » So

[1:38:35] council already did theoretically,

[1:38:38] right, with the ordinance. Um the uh

[1:38:41] ordinance includes the requirement that

[1:38:44] they provide uh a minimal number of

[1:38:47] parking spaces. And the only reason I'm

[1:38:49] hesitating is because I think we changed

[1:38:52] that a couple times. So, it's

[1:38:54] » Section

[1:38:55] » Two. Yeah. Section

[1:38:57] » 5665.

[1:38:58] » Yep. Yep. Section C. Operators shall

[1:39:01] maintain sufficient off- streetet

[1:39:02] parking for short-term rental use. One

[1:39:04] off- streetet parking space is required

[1:39:06] for a short-term rental consisting of a

[1:39:08] onebedroom and two or more will be

[1:39:10] required for an STR consisting of two or

[1:39:12] more bedrooms. Um, if you recall, uh,

[1:39:16] initially we said basically if you you

[1:39:18] need to have your two-car garage

[1:39:20] available.

[1:39:22] um our a resident who uh came and spoke

[1:39:25] a few times uh on this had said, "Well,

[1:39:29] I have the whole driveway available with

[1:39:31] more than enough parking. Why do I have

[1:39:33] to have the garage available?" So, I

[1:39:35] think the council ended up agreeing that

[1:39:38] it didn't necessarily need to be

[1:39:39] garages, but it's there needs to be off-

[1:39:42] streetet parking, garage or driveway in

[1:39:44] those numbers

[1:39:45] » Or tandem parking.

[1:39:46] » Yeah, it could be tandem parking, garage

[1:39:48] parking, driveway spaces. Um,

[1:39:51] » But but not the street parking.

[1:39:53] » Well, and so to to answer your question,

[1:39:56] is it possible that the tenant

[1:39:58] short-term renter has more than two

[1:40:00] cars? Yes. And so, like you said, you

[1:40:04] know, public parking is public parking,

[1:40:07] but the ordinance tries to make sure

[1:40:09] that it tries to minimize it by

[1:40:10] requiring them to at least have enough

[1:40:12] spaces to cover most of their parking

[1:40:14] spaces.

[1:40:15] » Right.

[1:40:16] » And something

[1:40:18] » Yeah. Yeah.

[1:40:19] » And then the other question just came to

[1:40:20] mind is like um

[1:40:23] additional dwelling units could be in

[1:40:25] the vicinity of STRs.

[1:40:28] » Mhm.

[1:40:28] » Right. And so parking

[1:40:32] again, is there a way to distinguish

[1:40:34] between

[1:40:36] parking on the property, public parking?

[1:40:40] Um,

[1:40:41] » The way we would enforce this is when

[1:40:43] they come in and get their permit, we

[1:40:46] would require them to show us that they

[1:40:48] at least have two parking spaces.

[1:40:50] » Uh, or if it's a one-bedroom, one

[1:40:52] parking space, but you know, typically

[1:40:54] two.

[1:40:55] » And, um, you know, does that mean that

[1:40:58] they won't rent to a family that ends up

[1:41:00] having four cars for two days? you know,

[1:41:04] that's possible, but the goal is really

[1:41:07] uh it's like minimizing the impact and

[1:41:09] trying to make sure that it doesn't

[1:41:10] become a habitual problem that you know,

[1:41:13] one house that's being operated as a

[1:41:15] short-term rental is taking up all of

[1:41:17] the parking from the whole neighborhood

[1:41:19] in perpetuity. So, so that's that's what

[1:41:23] the ordinance really protects against.

[1:41:32] Uh, no more questions. Okay. Do we have

[1:41:35] any public comments?

[1:41:36] » No public comments.

[1:41:41] » Okay. So, um,

[1:41:44] we have our recommendation.

[1:41:47] Uh, the recommendation is to well, we

[1:41:50] have our recommendation. Um, is to adopt

[1:41:53] the second reading by title only.

[1:41:55] Awaiting further reading ordinance

[1:41:56] entitled the ordinance of the city

[1:41:58] council of the city of Portini

[1:42:00] adding article 5 chapter 10 to the

[1:42:03] municipal code pertaining to shortterm

[1:42:06] rentals. May I have a motion and a

[1:42:08] second?

[1:42:09] » Move to approve.

[1:42:11] » Second.

[1:42:12] » Okay. Any discussion?

[1:42:16] » Right.

[1:42:17] » So I I did I did the math. I'm just you

[1:42:20] know I I just 50 units. If there's just

[1:42:24] 50 units, um 99.95 permitting, that's

[1:42:28] 50K and then a 45% occupancy rate,

[1:42:33] uh

[1:42:35] probably looking somewhere between

[1:42:37] 160,000. Um at a high peak demand,

[1:42:41] probably up to 300,000. That's if we

[1:42:43] have 50 units.

[1:42:44] » Conservatively, I I would lean to the

[1:42:47] 160,000.

[1:42:49] Um, but of course, um, I did do a search

[1:42:53] and

[1:42:56] AirDNA shows up to 100, but you know, it

[1:43:00] can be misleading because we don't know

[1:43:03] if uh, VRMO, Airbnb are they're on the

[1:43:07] same platform. So, that, you know, we

[1:43:10] won't know until we get the just of the

[1:43:13] SB uh, 386

[1:43:16] um, later.

[1:43:18] Uh but this has been long overdue. Um

[1:43:22] and I think we did a good job, you know,

[1:43:24] getting the community here with the

[1:43:26] community uh brief. Um and it's it's I

[1:43:32] you know, we we gave a little and we

[1:43:35] pushed a little and I thought together

[1:43:37] as a council staff presented a good good

[1:43:40] options to us and uh just want to tell

[1:43:43] uh thank staff. Uh, I think we we

[1:43:46] finally got to the finish line on this.

[1:43:48] So, we'll see how the Coastal Commission

[1:43:50] views this and uh and if we got to make

[1:43:53] any adjustments, of course, we will

[1:43:56] continue to do do the work. That's all I

[1:43:58] got. Thanks.

[1:44:00] » Anyone else?

[1:44:02] Yes,

[1:44:04] » So I'm hoping that we could communicate

[1:44:07] upstate that

[1:44:10] there's destined to be a conflict

[1:44:12] between additional dwelling units and

[1:44:15] STRs. And the the reason why I say that

[1:44:17] is because of there is no parking

[1:44:20] component with an additional dwelling

[1:44:22] unit. So, if there's a ADU over here and

[1:44:25] a short-term rental over here, um you're

[1:44:28] going to see parking problems and and I

[1:44:30] think uh I'm going to make a prediction

[1:44:32] that down the road um there's there's

[1:44:34] going to be a convergence of of these

[1:44:36] issues because as you know, ADUs aren't

[1:44:40] required to have a parking spot. And um

[1:44:44] I see more and more popping up around

[1:44:46] town and um you know, parking is the

[1:44:48] issue. So, we'll just have to take a

[1:44:52] step back, watch and and wait and see

[1:44:53] what develops. But I do think can we

[1:44:56] communicate ask to whoever it who is it?

[1:44:59] How come there's no parking component

[1:45:00] with ADUs?

[1:45:03] » I I know the answer. I know I know it's

[1:45:06] » Doesn't mean you'll like the answer you

[1:45:07] know

[1:45:08] » But I mean it's the you know even with

[1:45:10] this too the uh you know short answer

[1:45:13] because it's not on the agenda is uh the

[1:45:16] decision to prioritize accessory

[1:45:18] dwelling units is to impact affordable

[1:45:20] housing and the state has decided that

[1:45:22] is priority one parking is priority two

[1:45:25] or maybe three or four or five um so um

[1:45:29] you know not everybody has to agree with

[1:45:31] it I heard from a lot of resident our

[1:45:32] residents who don't feel that way, but

[1:45:34] that's that's the way the state's gone.

[1:45:37] And uh I will say that, you know, the

[1:45:40] STR ordinance essentially notes that you

[1:45:43] can't build an ADU to run it as a

[1:45:45] short-term rental. So, that's one

[1:45:47] attempt we're making. Well, and that is

[1:45:49] state law anyway, too. So, that I guess

[1:45:50] that's one attempt to sort of make sure

[1:45:52] that it's not just like bringing all

[1:45:53] these cars and it actually is helping

[1:45:55] with affordable housing. So,

[1:45:57] » But could could a ADU try to transition

[1:46:00] to a STR? No,

[1:46:02] » They just cannot do it.

[1:46:04] » No, per state law and we put it in our

[1:46:06] ordinance.

[1:46:06] » Okay,

[1:46:06] » So the goal we're trying to keep ADUs

[1:46:08] for affordable housing.

[1:46:09] » Great. Anyone else?

[1:46:11] » If not, madam clerk, please take role.

[1:46:13] » All in favor?

[1:46:15] » I.

[1:46:16] » All opposed?

[1:46:17] » Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.

[1:46:20] » Okay, great. We'll move to item number

[1:46:22] nine, a response to civil gr uh civil

[1:46:24] grand jury fireworks report. Over to

[1:46:27] you.

[1:46:28] » Thank you. So, um, gonna talk out of

[1:46:31] both sides of my mouth here and say that

[1:46:33] I know fireworks are always a hot topic

[1:46:36] and so I wasn't going to try to sneak

[1:46:39] this item through on consent uh because

[1:46:41] I know we we get a lot of questions

[1:46:44] about fireworks, but I am also going to

[1:46:46] say at the same time that this item is

[1:46:48] not a general fireworks discussion. It's

[1:46:51] an item that's intended to respond to

[1:46:53] the grand civil grand jury's finding

[1:46:55] that all the cities and and the county

[1:46:59] need to work together sort of more

[1:47:01] consistently and strategically on

[1:47:03] fireworks. Um so

[1:47:07] uh so I'll try to limit you know the the

[1:47:10] item to really that grand jury response.

[1:47:13] And so, um, I think council's aware, but

[1:47:17] for public benefit, we did receive a,

[1:47:19] uh, all cities in the county received a,

[1:47:21] uh, grand jury report on June 23rd that,

[1:47:26] um, as I paraphrased, and it's obviously

[1:47:28] the report's a lot longer, but the

[1:47:30] paraphrasing is, well, actually, it

[1:47:32] could be restated in recommendation

[1:47:34] four, which is what we responded to,

[1:47:36] which is the Ventura County Civil Grand

[1:47:37] Jury recommends that the Ventura County

[1:47:40] Fire Department interface regularly with

[1:47:42] Ventura County law enforcement ment

[1:47:43] coordinating committee to inform the

[1:47:45] committee about recommendations from

[1:47:47] CalFire's fireworks enforcement task

[1:47:50] force. So the outcome of this uh grand

[1:47:54] jury investigation was that and so uh

[1:47:58] maybe a couple of the phrases that

[1:47:59] aren't familiar but it says Ventura

[1:48:01] County Fire Department uh interface

[1:48:04] regularly with Ventura County Law

[1:48:06] Enforcement Coordinating Committee. So

[1:48:07] that's um there's a committee VCL if

[1:48:10] anybody's ever heard that and it's

[1:48:12] essentially all the police chiefs and

[1:48:14] the sheriff in our county meet regularly

[1:48:17] and work together on uh issues that

[1:48:20] impact all of the agencies, all the law

[1:48:23] enforcement agencies. So, the grand jury

[1:48:27] report was essentially if the fire

[1:48:29] department works with all of our police

[1:48:31] uh chiefs and our law enforcement

[1:48:33] leadership teams and comes up with

[1:48:36] strategic actions and recommendations

[1:48:39] like that. That's what needs to happen,

[1:48:41] not just have every city go out and do

[1:48:43] its own thing that's completely

[1:48:44] different from the other cities. So, um

[1:48:47] so our response to that grand grand jury

[1:48:50] finding is we think that's a good

[1:48:52] recommendation. We aren't opposing the

[1:48:55] recommendation or challenging it any in

[1:48:57] any way. We think it's a good

[1:48:58] recommendation and we think that um uh

[1:49:02] that VCL can get together and make

[1:49:06] recommendations and then we can all

[1:49:08] bring them back and then we can have

[1:49:09] fireworks conversations. Um I'll note uh

[1:49:14] you know one of the things like I had

[1:49:15] been talking to PD about recently was

[1:49:17] increasing the penalties for example.

[1:49:19] So, like I want to have that

[1:49:21] conversation, but I think to the grand

[1:49:24] jury's point, it's the thought right now

[1:49:26] is have all the agencies talk about that

[1:49:29] and like, you know, uniformly do that so

[1:49:32] that it's makes our whole county um uh

[1:49:36] firmer on fireworks.

[1:49:39] So, so again um so this item today is to

[1:49:43] accept that grand jury finding, send

[1:49:45] that recommendation that we agree to

[1:49:47] meet with to have our team uh meet as

[1:49:50] part of those VCL meetings uh and with

[1:49:53] the fire fire department and uh to um

[1:49:56] strategize accordingly. Um and so with

[1:50:01] that um I think that is about it. Like I

[1:50:04] said, I know fireworks is a broad topic,

[1:50:06] but this item is focused on that grand

[1:50:09] jury report, and we recommend accepting

[1:50:11] that response and sending our responses

[1:50:13] drafted here.

[1:50:15] » Great. Thank you. Any questions for our

[1:50:16] city manager?

[1:50:19] » I have a question.

[1:50:20] » Council member Lopez,

[1:50:22] » I I know VClack collected all this this

[1:50:24] data. Um

[1:50:27] so looking at Oxnard they they issued 59

[1:50:31] um citations

[1:50:33] or you know 59 50 59 and then uh we had

[1:50:38] you know we had zero for 23 24 and 25.

[1:50:41] Is there any lessons learned that we

[1:50:43] they could bring back on on how um how

[1:50:47] how they were successful in in in you

[1:50:50] know getting getting to that. I think

[1:50:52] this speaks and uh I had meant to get to

[1:50:55] that and knew I forgot something, but I

[1:50:57] think this speaks to why the first step

[1:51:00] is to standardize how everybody

[1:51:02] approaches it. Um because the feedback

[1:51:07] we've gotten from everybody is that

[1:51:10] everybody

[1:51:12] handles their calls differently. So the

[1:51:17] grand jury ended up reporting on the way

[1:51:20] that Oxnard handles theirs, you know. So

[1:51:23] then Oxnard has the most responses. But

[1:51:27] you'll note when you look, Santa Paula

[1:51:28] had blanks because they don't respond

[1:51:32] or, you know, they don't track that data

[1:51:34] because that's not what they use.

[1:51:35] » And then on our end, for example, um,

[1:51:39] and I always get it mixed up, but

[1:51:41] there's like a civil code section and

[1:51:42] then there's a criminal code section.

[1:51:44] And so they wrote the report based on

[1:51:47] one and where the other. So it's not

[1:51:49] that we haven't ever cited anybody, it's

[1:51:52] that we haven't used that that code to

[1:51:55] site people. So I think that just goes

[1:51:57] back to where the grand jury said the

[1:51:59] one of the first steps is standardize

[1:52:01] how everybody does it so that everybody

[1:52:03] can see apples to apples. Um

[1:52:07] uh but having said that, I guess the

[1:52:10] other answer to your question is I do

[1:52:11] think that's going to be part of what

[1:52:13] VCL does though too is they will look at

[1:52:16] what works for the cities and what

[1:52:18] doesn't and the lessons learned. Um

[1:52:20] Oxnard uh like three years ago I think

[1:52:22] was the first city that used uh like

[1:52:24] drones to see the fireworks and then we

[1:52:27] followed that um I think the following

[1:52:30] year.

[1:52:31] » Another county.

[1:52:32] » Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In the county and and

[1:52:34] everything. So, so it's like, you know,

[1:52:37] um I think they're we're doing it right

[1:52:40] now, but it's a little more like, hey,

[1:52:41] look, the city just did something cool

[1:52:43] and that that's honestly, you know, with

[1:52:45] the the raising the um penalties, I saw

[1:52:49] Oxnard did it, and I was like, why

[1:52:50] haven't we done that yet, you know? So,

[1:52:52] it is sort of like that's how we're

[1:52:54] doing it now. And I think the grand

[1:52:55] jury's point is why don't why doesn't

[1:52:57] everybody get in the room and put a plan

[1:52:58] together so everybody's doing the same

[1:53:00] thing. So, so, um, but we would expect

[1:53:03] the charts to look different in the

[1:53:05] future when it's sort of more apples to

[1:53:08] apples and everybody's doing it the same

[1:53:09] way.

[1:53:10] » To go off of that, that is exactly why

[1:53:13] there's such a difference between us and

[1:53:15] Oxnard or or Oxnard or everyone else is

[1:53:17] because everyone else goes by the same

[1:53:19] standard for penalties, but by the time

[1:53:21] it gets to the court, the judge reduces

[1:53:23] it to a hundred bucks. So, it doesn't

[1:53:25] stick and it's pretty much worthless

[1:53:26] even though the fine is $1,000. Well,

[1:53:29] Oxnard did an internal um rate increase,

[1:53:32] which is a a fine from the city. I think

[1:53:35] it put it up to

[1:53:36] » What was the increase? We talked about

[1:53:37] this. It was like

[1:53:38] » It was another00 $2,500 and that

[1:53:42] actually stick and it can't be reduced.

[1:53:44] So that's why it's

[1:53:45] » Yeah.

[1:53:46] » So So I do think there's a few things

[1:53:48] like that that we were already eyeing

[1:53:50] that I have a feeling BCLE is going to

[1:53:52] get in the room and say we should all do

[1:53:53] this thing. So, I think there's going to

[1:53:56] be some future recommendations coming

[1:53:58] from it.

[1:53:59] » Any other questions? Do we have any

[1:54:01] public comments?

[1:54:03] » No public comments.

[1:54:04] » Okay. Is there a motion and a second to

[1:54:07] approve staff's recommendation one

[1:54:10] through three?

[1:54:11] » Move to approve.

[1:54:12] » Second.

[1:54:13] » Any additional discussion?

[1:54:15] » I just want to say I'm all for

[1:54:17] standardizing our our approach. I think

[1:54:19] Oxart's a great model. Um, I'd like to

[1:54:22] see us do more of what Hogart's doing.

[1:54:24] Sure.

[1:54:25] » If there's nothing else,

[1:54:27] » I would just add that, um, every year

[1:54:32] from the vantage point of my backyard,

[1:54:34] we see the unauthorized Oxnard fireworks

[1:54:39] show going on over there in Oxnard. And

[1:54:42] and it's visible from my backyard. It's

[1:54:44] the same place every year. So, you know,

[1:54:48] the people that shoot off fireworks in

[1:54:50] my neighborhood, they're really stealthy

[1:54:52] about it. They light it, they run, and

[1:54:54] they hide, and then they don't come back

[1:54:56] for a couple days. Whereas what I see

[1:54:58] over there in Oxnard is just a barrage,

[1:55:01] a non-stop

[1:55:03] releasing of these things, and I'm

[1:55:05] becoming becoming anti-fires as a

[1:55:08] result.

[1:55:11] » Great. Madame Clerk, please take.

[1:55:13] » All in favor? I

[1:55:15] » I

[1:55:16] » All opposed hearing none. Motion passes

[1:55:19] unanimously.

[1:55:20] » Great. Thank you. We'll move to item uh

[1:55:22] number 10. That's future agenda item uh

[1:55:24] request. And we have one uh request that

[1:55:27] was received by or submitted by uh

[1:55:31] Council Member Lopez.

[1:55:33] » And so we have the item. Um

[1:55:36] Council Member Lopez, do you want to

[1:55:38] give us

[1:55:39] » Yeah, sure. Mayor, colleagues, staff, um

[1:55:44] I'm I'm here asking the council to

[1:55:47] support uh tonight to schedule a formal

[1:55:50] item on our next agenda to consider

[1:55:52] allocating $10,000 for all for our

[1:55:55] available prior year community benefit

[1:55:57] fund for uh for 10,000 from the comm the

[1:56:01] prior year community benefit fund

[1:56:03] unprogrammed balance to support our

[1:56:04] military banner under under category B.

[1:56:08] Tonight isn't about debating the full ex

[1:56:12] execution is simply agreeing that

[1:56:13] honoring our local service members uh

[1:56:16] using designated community benefit funds

[1:56:18] meets our criterion for our future

[1:56:20] agenda policy. Uh this approving uh

[1:56:24] appropriations under the unprogrammed

[1:56:26] community benefit fund balance is

[1:56:28] explicit city council policy and

[1:56:29] budgetary power not administrative task.

[1:56:32] Staff directions required to amend the

[1:56:35] formal CBF expenditure plan. Category B,

[1:56:39] community development, uh, explicitly

[1:56:42] authorized funding initiatives that

[1:56:44] foster community, social, cultural,

[1:56:46] well-being, and support civic

[1:56:48] organizations benefiting residents.

[1:56:51] Um, there is a direct council precedent.

[1:56:54] CBF funds uh have been consistently

[1:56:56] supported for cultural, visual, and

[1:56:58] civic identity projects, including the

[1:57:01] the mural project and the Bard Monument.

[1:57:04] That's all I got.

[1:57:06] » Okay. So, as a reminder at this time,

[1:57:08] this is uh for clarification only. So,

[1:57:10] the council uh and staff clearly

[1:57:13] understand what's being requested, not

[1:57:15] for in-depth discussion or debate. Um

[1:57:17] so, after clarification, the council

[1:57:19] will vote on whether to direct staff to

[1:57:21] place the item on future agenda. Uh

[1:57:24] please keep in mind that each request

[1:57:26] requires staff time and resources to

[1:57:28] prepare. Um so, are there any questions

[1:57:32] for clarification

[1:57:34] uh around this item?

[1:57:40] Council member Gama.

[1:57:42] » So, we're going to put this on the

[1:57:44] agenda to have a discussion

[1:57:47] solely on whether or not to allocate

[1:57:49] $10,000 or can we add

[1:57:52] add items to be discussed

[1:57:56] or are we going to have it? I guess if I

[1:57:58] could because that's the only question I

[1:58:01] have maybe kind of goes back to that is

[1:58:03] is it an item to discuss the CBF

[1:58:06] the full CBF including this allocation

[1:58:09] or only to discuss this allocation. So

[1:58:12] does it matter? I I think my initial

[1:58:15] thought was that it would be discuss all

[1:58:17] the CBF but include information on this

[1:58:20] specific $10,000 allocation. So,

[1:58:23] » Right.

[1:58:24] » But my thought process is if you're

[1:58:25] going to bring something um at least

[1:58:28] does it meet the categories? Um and give

[1:58:32] a I mean you discussed something the

[1:58:36] previous meeting but you didn't bring it

[1:58:38] you didn't bring it to the council for

[1:58:41] » Uh for consideration. So

[1:58:43] » Okay. So I think it would be a CBF item,

[1:58:48] but this would be one of the like

[1:58:51] proposed projects that we could do a

[1:58:53] little like uh you know vetting on and

[1:58:56] include the information on. I think uh

[1:58:59] based on the prior discussion, I think

[1:59:01] it was going to be the other item that

[1:59:03] we were going to try to get more

[1:59:04] information on and bring back which

[1:59:06] we're we're working on. We're trying to

[1:59:07] get u from the group, but the EDCVC loan

[1:59:10] program. So essentially it would be the

[1:59:13] CBF item with those two items already

[1:59:17] sort of like vetted out. Um and then

[1:59:20] that still gives the council the ability

[1:59:21] to talk about any other projects

[1:59:23] desired, but those are the two that

[1:59:25] would be included with some detail.

[1:59:27] » So question I have is will we be able to

[1:59:31] for example discuss the banner placement

[1:59:34] program top to bottom?

[1:59:38] » Is this agenda item? because I I talked

[1:59:41] to

[1:59:41] » I don't think that's this agenda item,

[1:59:43] but that could be another request. What

[1:59:45] you're saying is can we discuss like the

[1:59:47] actual banner

[1:59:49] » Program,

[1:59:50] » Where the banners are placed, you know,

[1:59:53] the look of the banners, things like

[1:59:55] that. Is that what you're asking? you

[1:59:57] kind of I talked to council member Lopez

[2:00:00] about what I s I think we could adjust.

[2:00:03] So

[2:00:04] » I think the banner program there might

[2:00:06] be some adjustments that we could all

[2:00:09] come to agreement on if we have the

[2:00:10] opportunity to talk about it. So I think

[2:00:12] is this part of this project if the

[2:00:14] council were to say for example we would

[2:00:18] approve this to be you know $10,000 CBF

[2:00:21] funding however we want to change it

[2:00:24] where the banner has our logo on it or

[2:00:26] whatever it is right like I think that

[2:00:29] could be discussed under here but if you

[2:00:31] just want a like a full like debrief on

[2:00:34] the banner program and changes to the

[2:00:36] banner program then that's a separate

[2:00:38] item so it just

[2:00:39] » But it couldn't be included on this

[2:00:40] request this with this. I think you give

[2:00:42] you can give some direction. We'll

[2:00:44] approve this if the banners are like

[2:00:46] this. It's just not a full banner.

[2:00:50] » So, can I just say real quick? So, um

[2:00:56] it feels it just feels like it's we're

[2:00:59] we're peacemealing a discussion around

[2:01:02] the $190,000

[2:01:04] » That needs to be more encompassing.

[2:01:07] So, it's it's like we have this

[2:01:09] $190,000. We're talking about $10,000

[2:01:11] here now. We have another $180,000. So,

[2:01:13] I we really need to be talking about

[2:01:16] uh projects period.

[2:01:18] And um because

[2:01:21] we we haven't had that conversation. Do

[2:01:23] you know what I mean?

[2:01:24] » Yeah, that's sort of where I was going

[2:01:26] where I was saying, is it just only

[2:01:28] talking about the one item or is it

[2:01:30] talking about the whole 190,000? But by

[2:01:33] doing this, the council's authorizing

[2:01:36] staff to vet this project already, you

[2:01:40] know.

[2:01:40] » Yeah.

[2:01:40] » So, um, these are all I mean, the

[2:01:43] question is just for council and if you

[2:01:45] want to schedule the future items. So,

[2:01:46] these are all, you know, uh, the council

[2:01:48] could decide what the item is.

[2:01:50] » Yeah. But if we go down memory lane,

[2:01:52] like we had a situation where every

[2:01:55] council member could potentially request

[2:01:57] an agenda item, we'd all vote for it and

[2:01:59] boom, there's five items to come up on a

[2:02:01] future agenda. Now we've narrowed it

[2:02:04] down to be very tight and you know, now

[2:02:06] we're hung up on one such item which

[2:02:08] could lead to three important

[2:02:10] conversations. So we're kind of

[2:02:13] » This is supposed to be discussing the

[2:02:15] CBF fund is what he's recommending.

[2:02:17] » Yeah, that's what that is. CBF

[2:02:18] » Literally what it is.

[2:02:19] » Yeah. And so we're already working on

[2:02:22] EDCVC.

[2:02:23] » It's from the CBF.

[2:02:24] » We're already working on EDC. The EDCVC.

[2:02:27] So there already is an item in the

[2:02:28] pipeline to talk CV. Yeah. I think the

[2:02:30] question is Okay, that's good.

[2:02:31] » Yeah. So the question would just be, you

[2:02:34] know, do we want to make sure to include

[2:02:37] detail on this um the banner program

[2:02:40] request

[2:02:41] » In that in that discussion? Yeah, I

[2:02:43] think that's

[2:02:44] » Are you okay with that?

[2:02:45] » Yeah.

[2:02:46] » Yeah. Um, so when uh so usually when we

[2:02:51] present like a future agenda item, so

[2:02:53] for when we talk CBF, are we going to

[2:02:55] get to we get to look at what

[2:02:57] everybody's requesting right before the

[2:02:59] meeting?

[2:03:01] So that's that's the iffy part. Right

[2:03:03] now there hasn't really been any council

[2:03:06] direction on specific items, right? like

[2:03:10] uh all we've said is we're going to

[2:03:12] schedule a future discussion to let

[2:03:13] everybody come up with their projects.

[2:03:16] Got it.

[2:03:16] » So I think the item right now the item

[2:03:18] that we were working on for next week is

[2:03:20] essentially like you know there's

[2:03:23] 190,000 here's what the categories are

[2:03:26] and then the only project that we had

[2:03:28] you know council direction on. So we

[2:03:30] were trying to get them to come present

[2:03:32] was EDC on the the economic development

[2:03:36] program they run. So that was going to

[2:03:38] be the item. We could add, you know,

[2:03:40] information about this banner program

[2:03:42] request to that and have that as part of

[2:03:44] the item.

[2:03:45] » I think that that was like how I was

[2:03:47] hearing it, right?

[2:03:48] » Um the challenge with what you were

[2:03:51] saying and it's it's up to the council,

[2:03:52] but you know, like uh usually I can't

[2:03:56] just send an email to everybody saying

[2:03:58] everybody any ideas you have, send them

[2:04:00] to me and I'll include them in the

[2:04:01] packet because well because of the Brown

[2:04:03] Act really, right? because then it's

[2:04:05] like we're all brainstorming ideas

[2:04:07] outside of a council meeting. So um so

[2:04:10] that session would be looking at EDCVC

[2:04:13] the banner program but also

[2:04:15] brainstorming you know that's when we

[2:04:17] could talk about those things

[2:04:18] » And also discussing a process.

[2:04:20] » Yeah the process how we want to do it

[2:04:22] and yeah how much of the funds we want

[2:04:24] to utilize for each category you know

[2:04:27] all that stuff could be discussed it

[2:04:29] would be a bigger picture

[2:04:31] » And then if you want to send in a future

[2:04:35] agenda item request to discuss the full

[2:04:38] banner program.

[2:04:39] That's what you were just talking about

[2:04:40] earlier.

[2:04:41] » Well, we have

[2:04:42] » What

[2:04:43] » Well, can can I say something?

[2:04:46] We have um we have the veterans ad hoc.

[2:04:49] Um

[2:04:51] we're going to present um a uh

[2:04:56] they're going to present basically what

[2:04:58] where the the current status of the of

[2:05:00] the banner program and a phase two. Um

[2:05:03] and we're we we're getting a lot of

[2:05:05] inputs from from uh you know residents

[2:05:09] and so and like council member GMA,

[2:05:12] we're we're listening to everybody's

[2:05:13] recommendations. So, we're we're kind of

[2:05:15] pivoting a little bit. So, uh and we had

[2:05:20] discussed I had discussed maybe putting

[2:05:21] that on the agenda.

[2:05:22] » Yeah, we were we were uh I think the

[2:05:25] council at one point too had said sort

[2:05:27] of after the first round, you know, have

[2:05:30] a debrief item on the banner program,

[2:05:32] how it went, any changes, all that kind

[2:05:34] of stuff. So, that can be an item too. I

[2:05:37] think it's, you know, um

[2:05:40] » Without it being written up. Well, I

[2:05:43] mean, I think it already was, right?

[2:05:44] Like it was already uh the council had

[2:05:46] already said, you know, the council have

[2:05:49] agreed to fund that program initially

[2:05:52] and then the idea was going to be and

[2:05:54] then come back at some point and do a

[2:05:56] debrief and talk about what worked and

[2:05:58] didn't work. So, so that's a that's an

[2:06:00] item two. I think I think that's really

[2:06:02] and we were talking about doing

[2:06:04] something like that before Veterans Day

[2:06:06] coming up. So, I think it could be both

[2:06:08] of like both of those. Well, let me

[2:06:10] answer it this way. that item was

[2:06:12] already on like the the list and then

[2:06:17] this would be just including it with the

[2:06:19] CVF item that was on the list. So, we

[2:06:22] can do both of those things.

[2:06:24] » So, I have a question regarding that. We

[2:06:26] weren't the one to initially really

[2:06:30] discuss and put in the categories and

[2:06:34] everything for the banner program. It

[2:06:35] was ad hoc committee who created the

[2:06:37] process. So, are we now coming in now to

[2:06:39] make decisions on it or shouldn't it

[2:06:41] still be an ad hoc committee

[2:06:43] » Program?

[2:06:44] » So, you you set the ad hoc,

[2:06:46] » Right?

[2:06:47] » And then the ad ad hoc committee is the

[2:06:49] one who develops the process.

[2:06:50] » Yeah.

[2:06:51] » One of the banners.

[2:06:52] » So, typically what I recommend and it's

[2:06:54] one of those things not to have an ego,

[2:06:56] but it's always the reminder that the

[2:06:58] commissions and ad hoc committees work

[2:06:59] for the council and they don't work for

[2:07:01] me, right? like uh they're not my

[2:07:03] employee so I don't really give them

[2:07:05] direction but the council as a whole

[2:07:07] gives them direction on what their job

[2:07:09] is, what their missions are, all that

[2:07:11] kind of thing. So um so what I usually

[2:07:14] recommend is when you create a committee

[2:07:17] and then usually like six months or a

[2:07:19] year in doing a review of what they're

[2:07:21] doing to make sure they're doing the

[2:07:22] thing that the council wanted them to

[2:07:24] do, you know. So I think it's more of

[2:07:26] that. It would be like a review of the

[2:07:29] banner like you know uh the work that

[2:07:31] the committee's done so far which is the

[2:07:33] banner program you know and then the

[2:07:35] council could potentially decide we like

[2:07:37] this and we want to keep it up and we

[2:07:39] want to do more or you know it uh we

[2:07:43] didn't like it and do we want to change

[2:07:44] it to this you know all that is within

[2:07:46] the council's uh scope.

[2:07:50] » Okay. So

[2:07:50] » Yeah, and and also the veterans ad hoc

[2:07:52] have a group email. Um if you send it to

[2:07:55] Brian

[2:07:56] » Uh it'll Brian will direct that email to

[2:07:58] the veterans ad hoc and you know they're

[2:08:00] not bound by the Brown Act.

[2:08:02] » So

[2:08:03] » Oh, they're an ad hoc.

[2:08:04] » They're ad hoc. So you guys can fire

[2:08:06] away at them. Any recommendations? Do

[2:08:07] you guys send them to Brian?

[2:08:09] » Yeah. So, so let's get back to the item

[2:08:11] and does anyone have a motion based on

[2:08:13] what we've talked about as it relates to

[2:08:16] a motion for this action and moving

[2:08:18] forward with the CBF discussion

[2:08:21] » With confused. I think it's already in

[2:08:24] the pipeline.

[2:08:25] » Well, with the so the note that uh

[2:08:28] veterans ad hoc committee update on the

[2:08:30] banner program is already in the

[2:08:32] pipeline. So the question is, do we want

[2:08:35] to include the ME military banner

[2:08:37] program in the community benefit fund

[2:08:40] discussion we were planning

[2:08:42] » As a potential item

[2:08:45] » And if you say yes now it doesn't mean

[2:08:47] you have to fund it, right? Like that

[2:08:49] that's what you will discuss.

[2:08:51] » Just a future it'll just be an agenda

[2:08:53] item. Agendaized the item.

[2:08:55] » That's correct. Yes. Thank you.

[2:08:56] » So moved.

[2:08:58] » Does anyone have a motion?

[2:09:00] » So moved. So what are you so moving?

[2:09:03] » Let's move forward with the request

[2:09:05] » To have it on the agenda so we can have

[2:09:07] a discuss request

[2:09:08] » With the CBF.

[2:09:09] » Yeah, CBF.

[2:09:10] » CBF.

[2:09:11] » Thank you. Thank you.

[2:09:13] » Um do we have any uh public comments?

[2:09:16] » Okay, great. Um any further discussion?

[2:09:22] No. Um Madame Clerk, please take role.

[2:09:25] » All in favor?

[2:09:26] » I.

[2:09:27] » All oppose?

[2:09:29] » Hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.

[2:09:31] » Okay, great. Thank you. Uh we'll move on

[2:09:33] to city manager comments and report.

[2:09:35] » We're still on this item agenda

[2:09:37] requests.

[2:09:38] » No,

[2:09:39] » No, that was the only item.

[2:09:40] » That was the only one.

[2:09:41] » Can I ask a question?

[2:09:42] » Oh, we went through it.

[2:09:44] » Oh, it has nothing to do with the CBF

[2:09:46] fund though.

[2:09:47] » So, I apologize. Okay, that was a

[2:09:51] question that I had from the city

[2:09:53] attorney, but Paul left was I just

[2:09:57] wanted to know is flock cameras an item

[2:10:00] that's going to be coming up on the

[2:10:01] agenda at some point. Okay, thank you.

[2:10:03] » Yeah.

[2:10:05] » Okay. Um, city manager Oh, comments.

[2:10:09] » Yeah, I kind of want to skip right to

[2:10:12] that, but I'll go through these other

[2:10:13] slates first. Um, I will answer that

[2:10:17] question in a moment, though. Um, so we

[2:10:20] wanted to highlight uh I think it's the

[2:10:21] last movie park movie in the park of the

[2:10:23] year and it I think it's a pretty good

[2:10:25] one at Wimi Beach Park. It'll be Pirates

[2:10:28] of the uh car. Now I'm thinking too much

[2:10:30] about how to say Caribbean Caribbean.

[2:10:35] Uh the Pirates of the Caribbean at Wimi

[2:10:38] Beach Park uh this Saturday at 7:15 p.m.

[2:10:42] So the ones at Wayne Beach Park are

[2:10:44] pretty popular. So, we wanted to remind

[2:10:47] everybody to come out and uh get there

[2:10:49] early to get a spot uh a nice spot on

[2:10:51] the sand. So,

[2:10:54] uh we also wanted to highlight uh in our

[2:10:56] partnership with the Western Ventura

[2:10:58] County uh business alliance, the West

[2:11:00] Ventura County Business Alliance. Um

[2:11:02] this year, uh they're creating a

[2:11:05] category new this year, which is the

[2:11:07] Port Wayne Legacy Award, which is a new

[2:11:09] award under their 2026 business awards

[2:11:12] program. Um and it'll recognize an

[2:11:15] outstanding individual who has

[2:11:16] demonstrated long-term dedication and

[2:11:18] made a transformative economic and

[2:11:20] community impact to the betterment of

[2:11:21] Port Wayne. And so this is new and uh

[2:11:25] we're trying to make sure we get the

[2:11:27] word out because I have a feeling if the

[2:11:28] word was out that there'd be some

[2:11:31] applications that people would want to

[2:11:32] submit. So we wanted to just let

[2:11:34] everybody know that the application

[2:11:36] process is open till Friday, September

[2:11:38] 18th.

[2:11:39] » Well, that's not

[2:11:42] » Yeah. And um we also made sure to

[2:11:46] clarify that uh because they now

[2:11:48] represent Camrio Oxnard and Weini, you

[2:11:50] also could nominate Weani uh residents,

[2:11:54] community members for all the other

[2:11:56] categories, too. But we just want to

[2:11:58] really highlight that there's a Port

[2:11:59] Wimi legacy award that we really want to

[2:12:02] make sure that somebody gets uh

[2:12:04] recognition for.

[2:12:07] Then uh next the following week uh we

[2:12:10] have uh California Coastal Cleanup Day

[2:12:12] on Saturday, September 19th from 9:00 am

[2:12:14] to noon. Um this is always a good event

[2:12:17] with lots of volunteers. So we we invite

[2:12:19] everybody to come join us this year and

[2:12:21] we meet at the Alaska Flight 261

[2:12:23] Memorial and spend the morning uh uh

[2:12:27] participating in coastal cleanup day. So

[2:12:29] wanted to invite everybody to that

[2:12:31] coming up as well.

[2:12:34] And then uh um for the September 21st

[2:12:37] agenda, we have three presentations

[2:12:39] scheduled. National Hispanic Heritage

[2:12:41] Month. Um we have a presentation uh from

[2:12:44] United Water Conservation District that

[2:12:47] uh we uh council had requested and then

[2:12:50] the uh US 101 improvement program

[2:12:52] presentation by the uh Ventura County

[2:12:55] Transportation Commission as well. So

[2:12:57] three interesting presentations.

[2:12:59] For business items, we have the note

[2:13:02] there about um uh I think we're planning

[2:13:06] to bring the community benefit fund item

[2:13:08] back and I think with the the future

[2:13:10] item today, we'll definitely bring it

[2:13:12] back. We haven't gotten a a a

[2:13:15] presentation date yet from EDCVC, but I

[2:13:18] think we'll plan to start the

[2:13:19] conversation regardless and then uh

[2:13:22] we'll try to get them to join us when

[2:13:23] they can rather than hold it up for

[2:13:26] that. So, we'll try to get them there

[2:13:28] the 21st, but if not, we'll we'll bring

[2:13:30] the CBF item back regardless.

[2:13:34] Um, I guess I had on here I didn't

[2:13:36] remember the banner program. So, I guess

[2:13:38] that answers that. So, to council member

[2:13:41] GMA's question, you'll be able to

[2:13:43] provide uh feedback on the banner

[2:13:45] program on that item. I I guess now

[2:13:47] Yeah, I should have remembered that, but

[2:13:49] I didn't. Um, and then uh we did get the

[2:13:52] Cal's conference resolution packet. for

[2:13:55] the first time in probably years, we got

[2:13:56] that ahead of the conference. So, we'll

[2:13:59] bring that to council for approval as

[2:14:01] well. And then um the uh answer to the

[2:14:05] question a moment ago is we have

[2:14:07] received two future agenda item

[2:14:08] requests. I don't normally list the

[2:14:11] future agenda item requests, but I knew

[2:14:13] that the um flock question is a question

[2:14:16] on a lot of people's minds. So, uh one

[2:14:19] of the requests is for automated lo

[2:14:20] license plate reader options. I will

[2:14:22] note um that

[2:14:25] uh our um our department our police

[2:14:29] department and I have been talking about

[2:14:32] trying to change from flock for a few

[2:14:35] reasons. So

[2:14:38] uh we may actually try to bring a change

[2:14:42] um sooner rather than later. Um uh but

[2:14:45] uh we we did receive the feature

[2:14:47] request. Um, so one way or another,

[2:14:49] we'll talk about that on the on the 20

[2:14:51] or we'll be able to talk about that a

[2:14:52] little bit on the 21st. And then the

[2:14:55] there was a second request for ebike

[2:14:57] safety and regulationsformational

[2:14:59] report. So that'll be a a future request

[2:15:02] with the license plate reader option

[2:15:04] maybe becoming a business item if uh

[2:15:07] we're able to to get a hold of a couple

[2:15:10] key people on that. Yep.

[2:15:12] So, those are going to be on an that

[2:15:14] we'll vote to put on an agenda or

[2:15:16] they're already coming.

[2:15:17] » The ebike one is going to be a vote. The

[2:15:21] license plate reader may be a a vote on

[2:15:24] whether to put it on agenda or we might

[2:15:26] actually already have an option we want

[2:15:28] to recommend changing to.

[2:15:30] » Okay. So, we've been uh for the last few

[2:15:33] weeks, we were contacting some

[2:15:35] alternative options and trying to find

[2:15:36] some some different options after, you

[2:15:39] know, I think everybody knows like Flock

[2:15:41] had their um leak and then policy or you

[2:15:45] know, privacy concerns on Flock as a

[2:15:47] whole. So, we started to look at

[2:15:49] alternative options and this morning we

[2:15:51] had a good conversation about one. So,

[2:15:53] we'll try to we we might be able to

[2:15:55] bring that back by September 21st.

[2:15:58] » And then we'll also have

[2:16:01] We'll have El Nino um at this point. I

[2:16:04] don't want to commit to that on the 21st

[2:16:07] yet

[2:16:07] » Just for the future.

[2:16:08] » But for future Yeah.

[2:16:11] And just because uh there's a few

[2:16:14] departments that we probably have to

[2:16:16] include in that. So I'm not sure what

[2:16:17] the timing is. All right. But that's the

[2:16:20] plan for the 21st and that's all I have.

[2:16:26] If not, we'll move on to council member

[2:16:27] reports comments.

[2:16:31] » Um, Wayne Housing, Inc. Um, we we did

[2:16:35] purchase a property um in a gated

[2:16:38] community and did all cash offer for

[2:16:41] low-income housing. Um, what we're not

[2:16:44] doing, you know, the goal is to to

[2:16:48] provide low-inccome housing. And I think

[2:16:49] this this really helps this council as

[2:16:52] well as meeting our our reign of

[2:16:54] numbers. Um, so it was good to to to be

[2:16:58] able to purchase a a property and uh

[2:17:02] immediately offer up for section 8. Uh,

[2:17:04] there's going to be a little bit of work

[2:17:05] that needs to be done by that, but u uh

[2:17:09] we do have a uh

[2:17:12] a five-year visioning uh program or um

[2:17:15] meeting that we're going to be having

[2:17:16] here soon. and uh and we'll be

[2:17:19] presenting back to the council what what

[2:17:22] the goals are for Wayne Housing Inc. and

[2:17:25] uh specifically like Willowbrook um and

[2:17:30] how Wayne Housing Inc. is uh is viewed,

[2:17:33] you know, like what how how our

[2:17:35] structure is and uh so looking forward

[2:17:37] to that meeting and and you know and

[2:17:39] brainstorming with the other board

[2:17:41] members and bringing all that back to

[2:17:42] council. That's all I have.

[2:17:45] » Yes. And to follow on that, we're

[2:17:47] planning our first fundraiser for Wayne

[2:17:49] Housing, Inc. We're going to try to have

[2:17:51] one fundraiser a year to try to increase

[2:17:54] revenue so that we can have plenty of

[2:17:56] income to improve our properties that we

[2:17:58] have and to add more properties to our

[2:18:01] our profile. Um, also we had our first

[2:18:04] food share Salvation Army uh at Marv

[2:18:07] Vista with the in conjunction with the

[2:18:10] Wayne Housing Inc. Alliance Club and

[2:18:12] that was very successful and that is on

[2:18:14] the third Thursday of the month from now

[2:18:17] it'll be from 1 to 2 at Mar Vista for

[2:18:19] anybody who wants to come and volunteer

[2:18:22] but that was very successful and the

[2:18:24] residents were very thankful

[2:18:31] » In um in a beach cleanup we noticed that

[2:18:36] the trash cans at the beach are very

[2:18:37] stinky and I'm wondering if we've ever

[2:18:40] used that service that cleans out the

[2:18:42] trash cans. Um, it's just a question

[2:18:45] maybe you could look into, but um,

[2:18:47] they're pretty pretty nasty. Um, and

[2:18:50] then earlier this week on September 1st,

[2:18:52] I got a phone call from a friend of mine

[2:18:54] that lives closer to the port for me and

[2:18:55] he thought, "Hey, I I think I smell

[2:18:57] natural gas." And I'm like, "Well, call

[2:18:59] this number and report report the the

[2:19:01] matter." And I was sitting up in my

[2:19:03] bedroom and then suddenly I began to

[2:19:05] smell natural gas. So, I phoned the gas

[2:19:08] company and the gas company came out and

[2:19:10] investigated it and I think 10 people

[2:19:12] may have called in and um the fire

[2:19:15] department got involved. Eventually, the

[2:19:18] investigator for the Southern California

[2:19:20] Gas came to my doorstep and said, "We

[2:19:22] traced it back to the port. It's not

[2:19:24] natural gas." And uh I think the harbor

[2:19:28] master informed them that um it's a

[2:19:33] fueling operation that goes on every

[2:19:35] Tuesday. So the message that the

[2:19:37] investigated me was get used to it and

[2:19:42] » Made my husband sick.

[2:19:43] » Yeah. And and you know numerous people

[2:19:47] were spelling it. Didn't didn't phone it

[2:19:49] in. But uh but the bottom line is they

[2:19:52] traced it back to the port. Apparently

[2:19:53] it has to do with diesel fuel transfers.

[2:19:56] Um and this whole idea of get used to it

[2:20:00] on Tuesday nights. I think that's

[2:20:02] completely inadequate. So I don't know.

[2:20:04] We're still waiting to hear from the

[2:20:06] port. So, I wish they would give us

[2:20:08] information because it literally blanket

[2:20:10] blanketed the area right here on the

[2:20:13] left side of Wayne Road. So, we're still

[2:20:16] looking for answers. So, if the port, if

[2:20:17] you're listening, could you please let

[2:20:19] us residents know what what's going on?

[2:20:23] That's it.

[2:20:26] Um, I don't have any uh reports on

[2:20:28] meetings, but I do want to share with

[2:20:30] you that I had the pleasure of attending

[2:20:32] the uh grand opening of the new Filipino

[2:20:35] Cultural Center that's over here on um

[2:20:38] Wanimi Road. What a beautiful place and

[2:20:40] what a a nice addition to our city. I

[2:20:43] was so excited to see the potential that

[2:20:46] that's going to bring um of to our to

[2:20:49] our city, not only culturally, but just

[2:20:52] um it's it's a new it's a community that

[2:20:55] um is going to grow and um they have

[2:20:59] murals, they have history um and it's I

[2:21:02] I'm just so excited to have this um this

[2:21:05] center now in in our city and I think

[2:21:07] it's something we can definitely build

[2:21:09] upon. So, if you haven't seen it yet, um

[2:21:12] definitely go check it out. I don't know

[2:21:14] the hours that it's open, but um it's

[2:21:17] just a beautiful facility. The uh

[2:21:20] association bought it. They bought the

[2:21:22] building and uh the uh the board has

[2:21:27] apparently been entrusted with the money

[2:21:29] to keep it going and they've certainly

[2:21:31] if you look at it, you they've invested

[2:21:33] a lot in it already. So, uh I think it's

[2:21:36] going to be around for a long time. So,

[2:21:37] just wanted to share that. ini

[2:21:40] » Right here on Yeah.

[2:21:42] » Is it Isn't it near Anna Capuccino?

[2:21:44] » Yeah, it's in that Ana Cappuccino.

[2:21:50] » Okay,

[2:21:50] » That's all I have. Thank you.

[2:21:51] » Great. Thank you. And I don't have

[2:21:53] anything to add. Um I've been attending

[2:21:54] my monthly meetings and nothing to

[2:21:56] report out specifically for Port Wine.

[2:21:59] Um so is there anything else? If not

[2:22:02] nothing else, we're we're going to

[2:22:04] adjourn uh this meeting to our next

[2:22:06] scheduled meeting September 21st at

[2:22:08] 6:30. So the meeting is now adjourned.

[2:22:11] It's 8:49.

Council 9-8-2026

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