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[1:28]
All right, it is 5:50 p.m. as of my
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time. Uh, we have a public hearing
[1:33]
notice for 5:50 for the intent to
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exercise special assessment powers
[1:39]
relative to the replacement and
[1:40]
installation of sidewalks, driveway
[1:42]
approaches, and replacement of sanitary
[1:44]
sewers.
[1:46]
Please take notice that the common
[1:47]
council of the city of Portage will
[1:48]
conduct a public hearing to declare its
[1:50]
intent to exercise special assessment
[1:52]
powers relative to replacement and
[1:53]
installation of sidewalks, driveway
[1:55]
approaches, and replacement of sanitary
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sewers as follows: sidewalk and or apron
[2:00]
replacement and or construction for the
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following streets: East Pleasant Street
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from Dwood Street to Hamilton Street.
[2:05]
Sidewalk and or apron replacement and or
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construction for the following
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addresses. 414 Adam Street, 413 Adam
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Street, 508 Hamilton Street, 426
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Jefferson Street, 510 Jefferson Street.
[2:17]
Sanitary sewer laterals for the
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following streets. East Pleasant Street
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from Dwit Street to Hamilton Street.
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Sanitary sewer laterals for the
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following addresses. 414 Adam Street,
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413 Adam Street, 508 Hamilton Street,
[2:30]
426 Jefferson Street, 510 Jefferson
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Street. The public hearing will be held
[2:34]
on the 10th day of September, 2026 at
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5:50 PM in the common council chambers
[2:39]
at the city municipal building, Portage,
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Columbia County, Wisconsin. All
[2:42]
interested persons may appear in person
[2:44]
or by their attorney or by agent for the
[2:46]
purpose of offering proof either for or
[2:48]
against the replacement and construction
[2:50]
of sidewalks and or aprons and
[2:52]
replacement of sanitary sewers dated
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this 18th day of August, 2026. This has
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been published according to law.
[3:00]
Before we jump into public uh comments
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regarding that, um did just want to kind
[3:05]
of outline the process. Uh answer a
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couple of probably would be questions
[3:09]
associated with it. Um ahead of that, um
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assessments obviously are put in place
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uh because they are a benefit to the
[3:17]
property. Um the assessments for the
[3:20]
sanitary sewer throughout um this
[3:23]
project um are in place because uh we've
[3:27]
found a number of uh different
[3:29]
deficiencies in relation to sanitary
[3:31]
service laterals. Um what a lot of
[3:34]
people don't realize is those sanitary
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service laterals are the homeowner's
[3:37]
responsibility all the way from the home
[3:40]
to the main itself. Um, so when we do
[3:42]
these projects, we replace that portion
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for the homeowner uh from the main to
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behind the curb line. So if there was
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ever an issue down the line, it would
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likely be on the
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um sidewalks and aprons are included in
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the project scope um to primarily do
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spot replacements uh where utility
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laterals are in conflict as well as
[4:03]
locations to decrease trip hazards and
[4:05]
improve slopes. Um existing gravel
[4:08]
aprons are also upgraded in these uh
[4:11]
projects to meet city standards. Um
[4:15]
topics of assessments were brought
[4:17]
through in the municipal services and
[4:18]
utilities committee back in July. Um and
[4:22]
then a preliminary resolution was
[4:23]
adopted by the council in August. Um the
[4:26]
reason why this took place in July is we
[4:29]
have gone through uh this process a
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number of times and we like to use
[4:33]
relevant information. Um in years past
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um we've used engineer estimates for
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those special assessments and then
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there's been a wide range of whether or
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not those engineers estimates are
[4:46]
correct. Um so we send out a preliminary
[4:49]
assessment role and say it's $400 or
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$500 for a particular and then when we
[4:53]
do the final it comes back and it's
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$1,500. we'd rather give you a a a real
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number um that we think is going to be
[5:01]
adequate for those assessments before
[5:03]
then final assessment role is complete.
[5:06]
Um with the final assessment role that's
[5:09]
will be coming in the coming months. Um
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how we do that is we take the um prices
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that were provided to us through our
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public bid opening and yield measure
[5:20]
each individual property. Um, so you
[5:23]
will only be assessed for the work that
[5:25]
took place in association.
[5:30]
With that said, I think we've
[5:33]
all right. Uh, if anyone would like to
[5:34]
speak, you can come up and state your
[5:36]
name and address into the microphone,
[5:38]
and you'll have five minutes to share
[5:40]
any concerns, feedback, questions.
[5:56]
Um, I'm from 229 East Pleasant Street.
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I just got a couple questions. How come
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some driveways did not have to be
[6:05]
replaced and some did? Been noticing up
[6:08]
the street that two or three driveways
[6:11]
got to stay.
[6:13]
There's nothing wrong with my driveway.
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I don't know.
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If if driveways were in conflict with
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any of the utilities or if the curb line
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uh changed elevation ever so slightly
[6:25]
throughout the project, that means that a
[6:29]
>> Okay. Um and I I used to live on a a
[6:34]
flat street. Now it's a kind of a hill
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going to the Is that what was supposed
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to be or
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>> Yep. to improve drainage in the area. So
[6:44]
every time it rains, I got a lake in
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front of my house. Now
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>> we have
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>> because of the it's not level yet.
[6:50]
>> Con the concrete is not yet complete
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some of the the areas.
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>> Then one more question. When are these
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assessments due? So, is that going to be
[7:00]
at tax time all at once or
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>> So, depending on the assessment uh
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amount um if it's under $300,
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» expect a lump sum payment
[7:13]
>> remain under
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>> um if it's between 300 and 1500, you
[7:18]
have the option to add it to tax roll
[7:20]
and three installments. And then if it's
[7:22]
over 1500, have the option tax.
[7:27]
>> Perfect.
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That's it. Thanks.
[7:30]
>> What was your name, please?
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>> Thank you.
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The
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» Go ahead.
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>> I'm Mike Pine at 221 East Pleasant
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Street. I was looking forward to uh
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Pleasant Street getting fixed and I
[7:59]
realized I think I talked to Aaron at
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the public works and to me he said the
[8:03]
street went down because of that. I want
[8:06]
to do a little history and hopefully I
[8:07]
can get it done in five minutes. So I
[8:09]
apologize for that. I lived on a street.
[8:11]
I had old sidewalks. I replaced them
[8:13]
myself. Had the guy I think his name is
[8:16]
B something. He does the lifting where
[8:19]
he put the stuff under the concrete
[8:20]
lift. I had a couple of trip hazards. my
[8:23]
two sections that were my driveway. I
[8:25]
had an asphalt drive approach before
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Pleasant Street was a little higher. I
[8:30]
had the sidewalk raised so people
[8:31]
wouldn't bump their feet on the ledges
[8:34]
that I had on my sidewalk. I did it a
[8:36]
couple of times. My sidewalk was raised
[8:38]
up. So, my driveway was actually below
[8:40]
the sidewalk. Now, it's even with the
[8:42]
sidewalk. I have what I call a mogul
[8:44]
hill. Now, my approach is quite
[8:47]
dangerous. It's a ramp up for me. I had
[8:50]
a nice flat one. Now, I have a ramp. I'm
[8:52]
hopefully I'm not exaggerating too much,
[8:54]
but my wife hates it. I have what's
[8:56]
called a Lincoln MKZ car. That's her
[8:59]
favorite car. It's a 217. It's a low
[9:01]
rider. It just barely hits the sidewalk
[9:04]
when I go up my approach and hit the
[9:06]
sidewalk. So, it's about this much
[9:08]
between my Lincoln and the sidewalk. So,
[9:12]
it also was too skinny at the top. They
[9:14]
said they gave me the same driveway. I
[9:16]
now drive on a corner of what'll be my
[9:18]
new grass because the approach at the
[9:20]
top is not as wide as it is at the
[9:22]
street. It did flare. I complained to
[9:24]
Aaron. He did do me a favor and the guy
[9:26]
from the cement company wasn't happy. He
[9:28]
did do the flare to give me the flare at
[9:30]
the street level because I had this odd
[9:32]
looking ramp thing and then they finally
[9:34]
put the flare on the one side. Looks
[9:36]
better. But my wife's totally concerned
[9:38]
about where we sit as hazard now. If I
[9:41]
have a kid that's walking to school that
[9:43]
now goes down my mogul hills, I'll call
[9:45]
it. My responsible is the city
[9:47]
responsible for that because I it's ice
[9:49]
and snow, I'm going to have a problem I
[9:51]
never had before that people are going
[9:52]
to slip down my approach now into
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Pleasant Street. So that's all I want. I
[9:56]
just want to make sure you're aware of
[9:58]
it that when it comes insurance time, I
[10:00]
don't pay for somebody the mailman or
[10:02]
somebody falling into the Pleasant
[10:03]
Street or the Amazon man or something
[10:05]
like that because it's not flat anymore.
[10:07]
It's a nice slope.
[10:10]
I love the project. I love having the
[10:13]
terrace look the way it does. I'm glad
[10:15]
to see that it'll get paved and have a
[10:16]
decent street on Pleasant Street, but I
[10:18]
personally, I'm speaking for myself, the
[10:19]
mogul hill scares me. It's actually
[10:21]
higher on one side than is the other
[10:23]
side because contractor matched my
[10:25]
sidewalk, which had to, like I said,
[10:27]
when I first started, had to be raised
[10:30]
to get rid of a trip hazard a few years
[10:31]
ago. So, I'm not going to say you have
[10:35]
to change it. I just want you to be
[10:36]
aware that my responsible now for a
[10:38]
dangerous thing that wasn't there. in my
[10:39]
driveway before. I don't know if you
[10:41]
know that answer.
[10:44]
That's all I ask. Touch you guys.
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There any uh any others that would like
[11:00]
to come up and speak?
[11:13]
Last call for any about the public
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hearing for the special assessments
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installation side.
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» State your name and address for the
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>> Yeah. Good evening. My name is Carrie
[11:28]
Nielsen. I'm at uh 413 uh East Pleasant
[11:31]
Street. Uh, I watched the I'm just
[11:34]
making an observation. I thought the
[11:36]
construction folks did a pretty good job
[11:38]
of laying all this work down and I'm
[11:41]
certain there was some uh issues that
[11:43]
come along, but specifically my concern
[11:46]
uh was this has probably been done
[11:49]
before. So, what decisions go into uh uh
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allocating who pays for what? Is it a
[11:56]
standard operating procedure? Let's say
[11:59]
this was done at a different block a
[12:00]
year ago. Are the same standards uh
[12:03]
being applied as far as charging the
[12:06]
citizens?
[12:07]
You know, because it looks like
[12:09]
percentages, 100 50% of this, that kind
[12:12]
of thing. I I'm looking for an answer of
[12:15]
uh when it was done before, are you
[12:17]
applying the same standards or do you
[12:20]
have an open uh book to say we can go
[12:23]
here, go there? How do you determine
[12:25]
those costs for the citizens? Is it
[12:28]
consistent with the past? Sure.
[12:32]
Um, so what what that does is it goes
[12:34]
through our municipal services and
[12:36]
utilities committee first and then
[12:38]
obviously to the council for approval of
[12:40]
a preliminary resolution. Um, typically
[12:44]
the municipal services recommends what
[12:46]
items are going to be special assessed.
[12:49]
Um, what I can say for this project, it
[12:51]
is in comparison to projects of similar
[12:53]
nature in the past. uh primarily the uh
[12:57]
West Conan Street project as well as our
[12:59]
West Carol Street project that took
[13:00]
place
[13:02]
um which are similar kind of
[13:03]
neighborhood.
[13:08]
» Uh one more thing as far as that uh
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assessment sheet that came in the mail.
[13:14]
So that's not the actual cost. Is this
[13:18]
being evaluated still?
[13:19]
>> Correct. That is correct. We field
[13:21]
measure everything that goes in and then
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[clears throat] a final uh assessment
[13:26]
notice will be provided.
[13:29]
>> And can you recap uh if we can make
[13:32]
installments? I know you did do it
[13:34]
earlier. Can you recap again if we can
[13:37]
uh make installments?
[13:38]
>> Yep. So if it's $300 or less, the
[13:41]
expectation was would be that you would
[13:43]
pay in one lump sum. If it's between
[13:45]
$300 and $1,500,
[13:48]
you have the ability to add that to your
[13:50]
tax roll in three annual installments.
[13:52]
And if it's above $1,500, you have the
[13:55]
ability to add it to your tax ro in five
[13:57]
annual installments.
[13:59]
>> Okay, great. That's all I got. Thanks.
[14:01]
Thank you.
[14:03]
>> Before we close that out, just to
[14:04]
clarify, no action on these assessments
[14:06]
are taking place tonight. Uh that will
[14:09]
come by way of a final resolution coming
[14:11]
months.
[14:25]
Rachel Schmidt, I just have a curiosity
[14:28]
question.
[14:28]
>> What's your address? 211 East Pleasant.
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>> What was that?
[14:31]
>> 211.
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>> What's with the concrete,
[14:37]
whatever that goes across the end of the
[14:40]
200 block? Why was that put there?
[14:44]
It was never there.
[14:45]
>> That's a drainage curb um to take water
[14:48]
from uh areas of higher elevation across
[14:51]
the roadway.
[14:52]
>> Okay.
[14:53]
>> Kind of an odd thing because it was
[14:55]
never there and several of us have
[14:57]
questioned.
[14:58]
>> Sure. Yep. It's a it's a standard kind
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of design practice for watershed.
[15:03]
>> Okay.
[15:08]
Any
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others?
[15:17]
for the final assessment or
[15:20]
the intent to exercise special
[15:23]
assessment public hearing?
[15:27]
All right, we'll close that at 6:04 p.m.
[15:43]
» All right, ging into the regular common
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council meeting scheduled for 6 PM.
[15:48]
Becky, call the role, please.
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>> Bernander,
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>> here.
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>> Crowley,
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>> here. Dunahee here. Boss excused. Green
[15:57]
>> here.
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>> Paul excused. Schlinkert
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>> here.
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>> Trento
[16:02]
>> here.
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>> Wutzel.
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>> We have a quorum. Pledge of allegiance.
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» I pledge algiance to the flag of the
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United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands. One nation
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[16:21]
justice for all.
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Approval of the agenda.
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>> I have no changes.
[16:39]
>> Public comment. I have received none.
[16:41]
>> I have received none.
[16:44]
>> Proclamation for 2026 fire prevention.
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>> All right.
[16:50]
Okay. City of Portage 2026 fire
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prevention proclamation. Whereas the
[16:55]
city of Portage is committed to ensuring
[16:57]
the safety and security of all those
[16:59]
living in and visiting Portage. And
[17:01]
whereas fire remains a serious public
[17:03]
safety concern both locally and
[17:05]
nationally and the presence of lithium
[17:07]
ion batteries in many household devices
[17:10]
introduce fire risks. And most of the
[17:12]
rechargeable electronics used in homes
[17:15]
daily, including smartphones, tablets,
[17:17]
laptops, power tools, ebikes, e-
[17:19]
scooters, and toys are powered by
[17:21]
lithium ion batteries, which if misused,
[17:24]
damaged, or improperly charged can
[17:26]
overheat, start a fire, or explode. And
[17:29]
whereas the National Fire Protection
[17:31]
Association, NFPA, reports an increase
[17:34]
in battery related fires, underscoring
[17:37]
the need for public education on the
[17:38]
safe use of lithium ion batteries and
[17:41]
devices. And the way lithium ion battery
[17:44]
devices are charged can make a
[17:46]
difference in helping prevent home
[17:49]
fires. And whereas safe charging
[17:52]
includes using the cord and charger that
[17:55]
came with your device or when approved
[17:57]
by the manufacturer, charging on a hard
[17:59]
flat surface, watching for warning signs
[18:02]
like devices that are very hot or about
[18:04]
to swell, unplugging when fully charged,
[18:07]
charging larger devices like ebikes
[18:09]
outside and away from access. And
[18:12]
whereas residents are encouraged to
[18:15]
understand that safe charging means
[18:16]
making smart choices every time they
[18:18]
plug in and for portage fire rescue
[18:21]
remains dedicated to reducing the
[18:24]
occurrence of fires through prevention,
[18:26]
safety education, and community
[18:27]
outreach. And whereas the 2026 fire
[18:31]
prevention week theme, charge into fire
[18:33]
safety, safe charging is a superpower,
[18:36]
serves to remind all residents that safe
[18:39]
charging can help reduce the risk of
[18:41]
fires in homes and communities. Now
[18:44]
therefore, I, Matt Feny, mayor of the
[18:46]
city of Portage, do hereby proclaim
[18:49]
October 4th through 10th, 2026 as fire
[18:53]
prevention week throughout the city of
[18:55]
Portage and urge all residents to learn
[18:57]
about and practice safe charging habits.
[19:00]
Given under my hand this 10th day of
[19:02]
September, 2026 in the city of Portage.
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Justin's in.
[19:29]
>> Good thing we got the official portage
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photographer, you know, aka
[19:35]
[laughter]
[19:36]
one.
[19:36]
>> Yeah, exactly.
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» Say fire. [laughter]
[19:48]
Try to get a little closer.
[19:55]
Hey, one more.
[20:01]
[laughter]
[20:03]
>> Yeah.
[20:03]
>> Bring your hand up like this.
[20:06]
[laughter]
[20:16]
» Say left or [laughter] right. They all
[20:17]
were.
[20:20]
Is that like a standard?
[20:22]
>> They literally were all left.
[20:24]
>> Absolutely.
[20:25]
>> I just like to thank the mayor, uh, city
[20:27]
council, all city staff members that
[20:30]
recognize, uh, fire prevention week and,
[20:33]
uh, with this proclamation.
[20:35]
Um, fire prevention is a, uh, very
[20:38]
integral component in life safety and we
[20:41]
as a department take it very seriously.
[20:43]
Um, so we really recognize or we really
[20:46]
want to thank you guys so much for this
[20:48]
and uh it means a lot to us. So I want
[20:50]
to remind everybody that uh open house
[20:53]
is going it's got a little bit of a
[20:54]
change this year. Uh we're going to go
[20:56]
on a Thursday night. Uh we're going to
[20:58]
stay away from uh a busy fall Saturday.
[21:01]
So it will be October 8th from 4 to 7.
[21:05]
So put it on your calendars. We'll be uh
[21:08]
pushing it out. What's that?
[21:09]
>> We'll be here.
[21:12]
>> Perfect. Great.
[21:13]
>> We'll make sure this gets done nice and
[21:14]
early so you guys can stop down.
[21:17]
>> Thank you again. We appreciate it.
[21:23]
» Resolution 26-018 relative to Theresa H.
[21:26]
Johnson, Sergeant.
[21:28]
>> So, this one is in recognition of all
[21:30]
the great work that Teresa Johnson has
[21:32]
done for the city of Portage Police
[21:35]
Department. I'll read this off. Uh
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whereas Terresa Johnson served the
[21:38]
Portage Police Department and the city
[21:40]
of Portage from January 1999 until
[21:42]
September 2026. And during Terresa
[21:45]
Johnson's 27-year tenure with the city,
[21:47]
she was assigned to the detective
[21:49]
division, held the rank of sergeant, and
[21:51]
obtained her master's degree. Terresa
[21:53]
performed many roles within the
[21:54]
department and the Portage community,
[21:56]
including the triad officer, citizen
[21:58]
academy instructor, field training
[22:00]
officer, and Portage youth baseball
[22:02]
board member. And whereas Teresa Johnson
[22:04]
heightened the police department's
[22:06]
professionalism and image and touched
[22:08]
countless lives with her compassion
[22:09]
first approach and while also serving as
[22:12]
the past Wisconsin association of women
[22:14]
police president and current board
[22:16]
member. And whereas Terresa Johnson
[22:18]
dedicated her professional life to
[22:20]
service and excelled in mentorship and
[22:22]
leadership amongst our agency and the
[22:25]
law enforcement community partners. And
[22:27]
now, therefore, be it resolved that I,
[22:29]
Matt Feny, mayor of the city of Portage,
[22:31]
and on behalf of the common council, the
[22:33]
employees and citizens of Portage, do
[22:35]
hereby thank Teresa Johnson for her
[22:37]
commitment to protecting and serving the
[22:39]
city of Portage, recognize her many
[22:41]
years of service, and wish her a long
[22:43]
and joyful retirement. Dated this 10th
[22:46]
day of September, 2026.
[22:50]
[applause]
[22:54]
» [applause]
[23:09]
» Teresa prepared a 10-minute speech that
[23:12]
she's going to let [laughter] everyone.
[23:13]
If
[23:14]
>> you know me, that's not true.
[23:15]
>> Yeah. On behalf of Teresa, no. Um she's
[23:18]
a considerably huge loss for our
[23:20]
department uh in the way of experience,
[23:23]
in the way of being a mentor and a
[23:24]
leader in our department. Um it's going
[23:26]
to be hard to replace her. Um I've
[23:28]
worked my entire career with Teresa and
[23:30]
we have so many great memories to share
[23:32]
and uh a lot of trials and tribulations
[23:35]
along the way, but um she's such a a
[23:38]
wonderful member of our department.
[23:40]
Going to be very well missed and I hope
[23:42]
you have one heck of a retirement.
[23:46]
I have a picture up front.
[23:47]
>> Can we do a motion first,
[23:50]
>> please? [laughter]
[23:51]
>> Oh. Ah.
[23:52]
>> Go ahead.
[23:53]
>> All right. Other person green.
[23:55]
>> I'd like to make a motion to
[24:00]
accept resolution 26-018.
[24:05]
» All person.
[24:07]
>> I'll second.
[24:09]
>> Any further discussion? Becky, call the
[24:11]
roll, please.
[24:12]
>> Raleigh.
[24:12]
>> I.
[24:13]
>> Donny. Hi
[24:14]
>> Green.
[24:14]
>> Hi
[24:15]
>> Schlinkert.
[24:16]
>> Hi
[24:16]
>> Tanto.
[24:17]
>> Hi
[24:17]
>> Watzel.
[24:18]
>> Hi
[24:18]
>> Fernander.
[24:19]
>> Hi
[24:24]
» now. It's official.
[24:51]
» [laughter]
[25:11]
» The whole family up there.
[25:22]
[laughter]
[25:45]
I'd probably take better pictures over
[25:47]
here.
[25:48]
>> You probably
[26:02]
[applause]
[26:10]
» [laughter]
[26:11]
>> No
[26:17]
[clears throat]
[26:22]
approval of minutes of the common
[26:24]
council meeting August 13, 2026.
[26:29]
» Person Bordander.
[26:30]
>> I'll move to approve the meeting minutes
[26:32]
of August 13, 2026.
[26:35]
All person Wetszel,
[26:36]
>> I'll second it.
[26:37]
>> Any further discussion?
[26:40]
All
[26:40]
>> personinker. Can
[26:42]
>> I ask any questions about what happened
[26:43]
in those minutes? Follow-ups from things
[26:46]
that we talked about or No.
[26:48]
>> Yeah. I'm wondering if there is any
[26:52]
update on the park injury that we agreed
[26:54]
to ask the insurance carrier to do their
[26:56]
thing.
[26:56]
>> I've not heard anything.
[26:57]
>> Okay. Thanks. And then also um the
[27:00]
contract for the blood services. Did
[27:02]
that get completed?
[27:04]
Okay,
[27:06]
>> perfect. Okay, thanks.
[27:09]
>> Any further discussion?
[27:13]
» All right, Becky, call the roll, please.
[27:15]
>> Uh, [clears throat] Dunny,
[27:16]
>> hi.
[27:17]
>> Green,
[27:17]
>> hi.
[27:18]
>> Slinkert,
[27:19]
>> hi.
[27:19]
>> Tranto,
[27:20]
>> hi.
[27:20]
>> Wetzel,
[27:21]
>> hi.
[27:21]
>> Bernander,
[27:22]
>> hi.
[27:22]
>> Cwley,
[27:23]
>> hi.
[27:23]
>> Passes.
[27:26]
>> Consent agenda, Police and Fire
[27:27]
Commission, July 29th. Library Board,
[27:29]
August 11th. Business Improvement
[27:31]
District Board of Directors, August
[27:32]
12th, Legislative and Regulatory, August
[27:35]
13th, Park and Wreck, August 17th, Plan
[27:37]
Commission, August 17th, Municipal
[27:39]
Services and Utilities, August 27th.
[27:42]
Finance Personnel September 3rd.
[27:44]
>> All person Green.
[27:45]
>> Make a motion to approve the consent
[27:47]
agenda.
[27:48]
>> All the person wet.
[27:49]
>> Second it.
[27:50]
>> Any further discussion? All person. Um
[27:54]
I'm wondering there was a zoning um
[27:57]
change approved that requires a um
[28:00]
conditional use permit and an update to
[28:01]
the comprehensive plan. Will those be
[28:03]
coming back to full
[28:06]
council or will those be happening only
[28:09]
at municipal services
[28:12]
specifically the one at 341 Cemetery
[28:14]
Road? That's the one that started off at
[28:17]
plan commission. It will come before the
[28:19]
council before its approval and does
[28:20]
need a comprehensive plan as well. So,
[28:22]
that's in the works, but it will be
[28:24]
coming here before it's it's done. Yeah.
[28:28]
>> Thank you.
[28:29]
>> Other questions.
[28:37]
» Becky, call the roll, please.
[28:39]
>> Green.
[28:40]
>> Hi.
[28:40]
>> Slinkert.
[28:41]
>> Hi.
[28:42]
>> Tranto.
[28:42]
>> Hi.
[28:43]
>> Wetszel.
[28:44]
>> Hi.
[28:44]
>> Bernander.
[28:45]
>> Hi.
[28:46]
>> Cwley.
[28:46]
>> Hi.
[28:47]
>> Donahe.
[28:47]
>> Hi. [clears throat]
[28:50]
>> New business. Finance Personnel
[28:52]
discussion and possible action on claims
[28:54]
for August.
[28:56]
>> All the person Bernander
[28:57]
>> move to approve 4,221,480.80
[29:01]
in total paid claims and debt.
[29:04]
>> All the person green.
[29:05]
>> A second.
[29:07]
>> Any further discussion?
[29:11]
» Becky, color roll, please.
[29:12]
>> Slinkert.
[29:13]
>> Hi.
[29:13]
>> Tranto.
[29:14]
>> Hi.
[29:15]
>> Wetszel.
[29:16]
>> Hi.
[29:16]
>> Bernander.
[29:17]
>> Hi.
[29:18]
>> Cwley.
[29:18]
>> Hi.
[29:19]
>> Donahe.
[29:19]
>> Hi. [clears throat] I
[29:21]
>> passes discussion and possible action
[29:23]
ordinance 26-009
[29:26]
relative to discontinuing the joint
[29:27]
municipal court between the city of
[29:29]
Portage, Columbia County, Wisconsin and
[29:31]
the village of Endeavor, Marquette
[29:32]
County, Wisconsin.
[29:35]
>> So this is a request from the village
[29:36]
endeavor. We knew it may be coming for some time given how little they use
[29:40]
our court in a given year. There's only
[29:43]
a handful of cases that come from the
[29:44]
village of Endeavor to our joint court.
[29:47]
So this is um their request and um from
[29:51]
staff's perspect perspective there is no
[29:53]
concern with the request. What it
[29:55]
ultimately ends up doing is just
[29:56]
creating some administrative work for
[29:57]
the city of portage for the design
[29:59]
impact our court cases. Um we would have
[30:02]
to pass this ordinance amend our
[30:04]
ordinances instead of saying joint court
[30:06]
be a portage municipal court. Um we'll
[30:09]
have a court inspection complete a
[30:11]
couple other items and then um um have
[30:14]
our own court going forward. Um only
[30:17]
thing that could still impact us from
[30:18]
the village of Endeavor is past cases if
[30:20]
they need to come back to our court, but
[30:22]
that's would be a small impact if any.
[30:26]
And um financially it does not really
[30:29]
impact the city because they used our
[30:30]
court so little. We we always um bore
[30:33]
the majority if not all the costs
[30:35]
associated with our court because of
[30:36]
that. So staff would recommend
[30:38]
considering an approval of the villages
[30:40]
request.
[30:42]
>> That was the first reading.
[30:44]
Okay. too soon.
[30:48]
>> All person green.
[30:49]
>> I make a motion to suspend the rules and
[30:51]
read ordinance 26-009
[30:53]
second reading.
[30:58]
» President Tranto.
[30:59]
>> Second.
[31:01]
>> Any further discussion?
[31:03]
Becky, call a roll, please.
[31:04]
>> Tranto.
[31:06]
Butel. Hi.
[31:07]
>> Bernander. Hi.
[31:08]
>> Cwley. Hi.
[31:09]
>> Dun. Hi.
[31:10]
>> Green.
[31:11]
>> Hi. Slinker.
[31:12]
>> Hi.
[31:16]
Uh, ordinance 26-009,
[31:18]
ordinance for discontinuing the joint
[31:20]
municipal court between the city of
[31:21]
Portage, Columbia County, Wisconsin, and
[31:23]
the village of Endeavor, Marquette
[31:24]
County, Wisconsin. This is the second
[31:25]
reading.
[31:27]
>> All person green.
[31:28]
>> Make a motion to adopt ordinance 26-009.
[31:32]
>> All the person Bernander
[31:33]
>> second.
[31:34]
>> Any further discussion?
[31:38]
» Becky, call the role, please.
[31:39]
>> Wel,
[31:40]
>> I.
[31:41]
>> Bernander,
[31:42]
>> hi. Cwley
[31:43]
>> I
[31:44]
>> Dunny.
[31:44]
>> Hi
[31:45]
>> Green.
[31:46]
>> Hi
[31:46]
>> Schlinkert.
[31:47]
>> Hi
[31:47]
>> Tranto.
[31:48]
>> Hi.
[31:52]
» Discussion and possible action
[31:54]
resolution 26-019
[31:56]
relative to exemption from county
[31:58]
library tax 2027.
[32:08]
» Person Green. I got a motion to adopt
[32:10]
resolution 26-009
[32:13]
or 019 sorry
[32:19]
» person trying to
[32:19]
>> second
[32:21]
>> any further discussion
[32:25]
call the roll please
[32:26]
>> Bernander
[32:27]
>> hi [clears throat]
[32:28]
>> Cwley
[32:28]
>> I
[32:29]
>> Donnahe I
[32:30]
>> green
[32:30]
>> hi
[32:31]
>> Slinkert
[32:31]
>> hi
[32:32]
>> tranto
[32:32]
>> hi
[32:33]
>> Wzel
[32:34]
>> hi
[32:34]
>> yeses
[32:36]
legislative and regulatory discussion
[32:37]
and possible action on change of agent
[32:39]
foria LLC 125 WA trail class B
[32:43]
combination license to Jeremy
[32:45]
Santorelli.
[32:51]
So in the packet I have that um Mr.
[32:55]
Jeremy Centrelli he is here also he is
[32:58]
buying the entire LLC. So that's why
[33:00]
he's just required to be a change of
[33:01]
agent and he's changing the trade name
[33:03]
which also falls under it can just be a
[33:06]
change like this. We don't he does not
[33:07]
need to apply for the entire new
[33:09]
license.
[33:11]
So and he's had the background check and
[33:13]
everything is
[33:15]
>> all the person Bernierander
[33:16]
>> move to approve change of agent for
[33:18]
Rolandi LLC to Jeremy St.
[33:22]
Person Wetzel.
[33:23]
>> I'll second it.
[33:24]
>> Any [clears throat] further discussion?
[33:28]
» Becky color roll please.
[33:30]
>> Caleley
[33:31]
>> I
[33:32]
>> Dunny I
[33:33]
>> Green.
[33:33]
>> Hi.
[33:34]
>> Linkert.
[33:35]
>> Hi.
[33:35]
>> Trentto. Hi
[33:36]
>> Wel Ernander.
[33:38]
>> Hi
[33:38]
>> passes.
[33:41]
>> Municipal services and utilities
[33:42]
discussion and possible action
[33:44]
resolution number 26-020
[33:46]
relative to Bureau of Aeronautics
[33:48]
airport layout plan project approval for
[33:50]
the fuel farm.
[33:53]
>> Uh so this resolution uh essentially
[33:56]
gives authorization to the BOA to move
[33:58]
forward with the fuel farm relocation
[34:01]
project. Um, back in 2023, we petitioned
[34:04]
the Secretary of Transportation for
[34:06]
airport improvement aid associated with
[34:08]
this project. And then in 204,
[34:12]
uh, we also passed a resolution that
[34:14]
gave approval, uh, for the VO8.
[34:18]
Planning and bidding processes
[34:19]
associated with that project. Um design
[34:22]
work wrapped up earlier this year and
[34:25]
there was a public bid opening held on
[34:27]
May 7th uh where Metco Fuel Systems
[34:30]
provided the low qualified bid for the
[34:33]
project. The total anticipated costs are
[34:36]
roughly $900,000
[34:39]
uh which includes METCO's construction
[34:40]
contract as well as the design costs.
[34:44]
Um, the project has a planned cost
[34:46]
sharing of 95% federal, two and a half%
[34:49]
state, and two and a half% local, which
[34:52]
would come out to be roughly $22,000 to
[34:55]
the city. Um I will note that if state
[34:58]
funding is spent uh meaning that two and
[35:00]
a half% state share uh we will be
[35:03]
required to adopt two ordinances before
[35:06]
January 1st 2027 relating to height
[35:10]
limitation zoning around the airport as
[35:13]
well as uh vehicle and pedestrian
[35:16]
traffic ordinances as they relate to
[35:19]
surfaces of the that would just be for
[35:22]
their two and a half%
[35:27]
adopt those ordinances. We would just be
[35:29]
on the hook for that.
[35:38]
[laughter]
[35:40]
» Start lip syncing.
[35:43]
>> All the person lickered.
[35:45]
[laughter]
[35:46]
>> She could be way off those quite the
[35:48]
timing.
[35:48]
>> Be way off base.
[35:51]
it the those two ordinances are like in
[35:53]
the works yet for more discussion.
[35:55]
>> They are we've um briefly brought them
[35:58]
to the attention of municipal services
[36:00]
at our July meeting and then we had
[36:02]
preliminary discussions with the
[36:04]
representative
[36:06]
at our August municipal services
[36:08]
meeting. Our intent is to bring
[36:09]
something back in October um to discuss
[36:12]
it further.
[36:15]
President Cwley,
[36:16]
>> it was also brought to if I get it wrong
[36:19]
correctly, but I think it was also
[36:21]
brought to our attention that
[36:24]
>> with city
[36:27]
our decision to enforce
[36:30]
that's uh
[36:32]
>> correct. So that that's relative to the
[36:34]
ordinances itself. Um, yeah, the city
[36:37]
would have the the ability to enforce
[36:39]
the ordinances obviously much like any
[36:42]
of our other ordinances.
[36:44]
We then also have the ability to modify
[36:47]
the draft language that was
[36:52]
forward
[36:55]
over
[37:09]
Person Bernander
[37:10]
>> move to approve resolution.
[37:14]
» Other person Dunny.
[37:16]
>> I will uh second that motion.
[37:19]
>> Any further discussion?
[37:22]
Becky, call the roll, please.
[37:24]
>> Donny,
[37:25]
>> hi.
[37:26]
>> Green.
[37:27]
>> Hi.
[37:28]
>> Linkert.
[37:28]
>> Hi.
[37:29]
>> Trantow.
[37:29]
>> Hi. Wetzel.
[37:32]
>> Bernander.
[37:33]
>> Hi.
[37:33]
>> Crawley.
[37:34]
>> I
[37:34]
>> passes.
[37:37]
>> Discussion and possible action contract
[37:38]
award. New Pinery storm sewer.
[37:42]
>> Um so anybody that's lived in Portage
[37:44]
knows that when it rains we get standing
[37:47]
water on New Pinery in front of
[37:48]
Quicktrip. Um we've come up with a plan
[37:52]
um to relay some of that standing water
[37:55]
that sits in the lowlying curb to an
[37:57]
adjacent watershed. Um essentially we'll
[38:00]
be tying it into some of the existing
[38:02]
storm sewer in the area by adding a curb
[38:05]
inlet. Um we sought proposals from a
[38:08]
number of contractors to perform this
[38:10]
work with concrete solutions uh
[38:13]
providing the lowest and only qualified
[38:15]
quote at 22,3.
[38:20]
Um the 2026 capital expenditure plan
[38:22]
does have $40,000 budgeted for this and
[38:25]
we are recommending
[38:27]
approval of this work through concrete
[38:30]
solutions. Um additionally this work
[38:32]
will be done
[38:34]
their work associated property. Um so
[38:37]
they'll be utilizing some of the same
[38:39]
traffic control.
[38:45]
Other person Bernander
[38:46]
>> move to approve new pinary storm water
[38:48]
repairs contract to concrete solutions
[38:50]
$22,3131
[38:55]
personel
[38:56]
>> I'll second it
[38:57]
>> any further discussion
[39:02]
call the roll please
[39:03]
>> green
[39:03]
>> hi
[39:04]
>> linkert
[39:05]
>> hi
[39:05]
>> trantow
[39:06]
>> hi
[39:07]
>> wetzel
[39:08]
>> hi
[39:08]
>> Bernander
[39:09]
>> hi
[39:10]
>> Cwley
[39:10]
>> hi
[39:11]
>> Dunah
[39:11]
>> hi's
[39:13]
discussion and possible action contract
[39:15]
award traffic signal upgrades design
[39:17]
services US highway 51 Hardle and US
[39:20]
Highway 51 state highway 16.
[39:24]
In 2024, we applied for two signal
[39:27]
upgrade projects under the uh Wisconsin
[39:30]
Department of Transportation's SISP
[39:32]
grant program. Um we were awarded this
[39:35]
grant uh which includes 90% funding for
[39:40]
full traffic signal upgrades. um no
[39:43]
different than what we're doing at the
[39:45]
intersections of Collins and Slifer
[39:48]
Street on New Pinery this year. Um
[39:52]
the two projects that are next up in
[39:55]
line for that grant cycle are the
[39:57]
intersection of US 51 and Hardle Street
[40:01]
and US 51 and 16 or McFarland and
[40:04]
Wisconsin Street. Um
[40:07]
we sought proposals for design from
[40:10]
traffic analysis and design
[40:11]
incorporated. uh for design services
[40:13]
associated with these projects. Um they
[40:16]
were contracted by the city for in 2024
[40:19]
uh to submit the applications for this
[40:22]
grant funding cycle and have performed
[40:24]
for the city past. They provided pricing
[40:27]
of $76,1.50
[40:30]
for both intersections and the capital
[40:33]
improvement plan includes $131,000
[40:38]
associated with these
[40:41]
program. Um so we essentially pay the
[40:44]
full bill and then request reimbursement
[40:52]
green. I make a motion to award
[40:56]
contract design to traffic analysis and
[41:01]
design incorporated in the amount of
[41:02]
$76,154.50
[41:06]
person wet.
[41:07]
>> I'll second it.
[41:09]
>> Any further discussion?
[41:11]
All person.
[41:12]
>> This is just for them to figure out
[41:14]
where the lights go, all of the wiring
[41:17]
and that not installing or sourcing of
[41:20]
new
[41:21]
>> correct. Um I think anticipated cost for
[41:24]
the installations themselves are roughly
[41:29]
>> for two stop lights.
[41:31]
>> It's the whole intersection.
[41:33]
So um it would be four four actual
[41:36]
apparatuses
[41:38]
>> two intersections
[41:41]
>> in the wrong business. [laughter]
[41:49]
First and second. Any further
[41:51]
discussion?
[41:53]
Becky, call please.
[41:55]
>> Linkert.
[41:56]
>> Hi.
[41:56]
>> Fantau.
[41:58]
>> Wutzel.
[41:59]
>> Bernander.
[42:00]
>> Hi.
[42:01]
>> Cwley.
[42:01]
>> I.
[42:02]
>> Dunny.
[42:03]
>> I.
[42:03]
>> Green.
[42:04]
>> Hi.
[42:04]
>> Passes.
[42:06]
Discussion and possible action contract
[42:08]
award. Well, six VFD replacement.
[42:12]
Um so earlier this year we had a
[42:14]
variable frequency drive or VFD um at
[42:18]
one of our wells go down due to
[42:20]
overheating. Um these VFDs control and
[42:23]
regulate pump operations in attempt to
[42:25]
ensure significant tear does not take
[42:27]
place on processes. Uh we were able to
[42:31]
reset that VFD. Um but h however in
[42:34]
order cooling of the unit had to add
[42:38]
some secondary equipment. um
[42:42]
plethora of fans blowing on it.
[42:45]
Unfortunately,
[42:46]
um this existing VFD is approximately 15
[42:49]
plus years old and needs more. Um we did
[42:53]
receive quotes on this with municipal
[42:55]
well and pump out of rep providing the
[42:58]
lowest qualified quote in the amount of
[43:02]
um this project would be funding funded
[43:04]
through our six operational budget
[43:07]
though this project was not specifically
[43:09]
budgeted. uh funds are available.
[43:14]
» Person Greens
[43:15]
>> make a motion to award the contract to
[43:17]
municipal well and pump in the amount of
[43:19]
17,9 $17,90.
[43:23]
All
[43:24]
>> person Tranto
[43:24]
>> second.
[43:26]
>> Any further discussion?
[43:30]
>> Becky call please.
[43:31]
>> Tranto.
[43:32]
>> Hi.
[43:33]
>> Wetzel.
[43:33]
>> Hi
[43:34]
>> Fernander.
[43:35]
>> Hi
[43:35]
>> Cwley.
[43:36]
>> Hi
[43:36]
>> Danahe.
[43:37]
>> Hi
[43:38]
>> Green.
[43:38]
>> Hi Flinkard
[43:40]
>> I
[43:43]
» appointment by the mayor confirmed by
[43:45]
council vote park and recreation board
[43:47]
school representative at large Terara
[43:49]
Syler to complete the three-year term
[43:52]
ending 4:30 2028
[44:10]
person link.
[44:10]
>> I'll make a motion to approve the
[44:12]
appointment. All
[44:13]
>> person.
[44:14]
>> I will second.
[44:16]
>> Any further discussion?
[44:18]
>> Becky, color roll, please.
[44:19]
>> Wetzel.
[44:20]
>> Hi.
[44:21]
>> Bernander.
[44:21]
>> Hi.
[44:22]
>> Cwley.
[44:23]
>> Hi.
[44:23]
>> Dun.
[44:24]
>> Hi.
[44:24]
>> Green.
[44:25]
>> Hi.
[44:26]
>> Slinkert.
[44:26]
>> Hi.
[44:27]
>> Tranto.
[44:27]
>> Hi.
[44:28]
>> Passes.
[44:32]
discussion and possible action
[44:34]
reconsideration of operator license
[44:35]
application for Rebecca Crier. So if you
[44:38]
remember this was recommended for
[44:39]
denial. Uh so a letter went to Rebecca
[44:41]
and she has the chance to come and um
[44:45]
give her side and you can choose to
[44:47]
overturn the denial or to uphold the
[44:50]
denial.
[44:57]
» Hi my name is Rebecca Crier. Um, I've
[45:00]
never done something like this, but I
[45:02]
applied for my bartender's license. I am
[45:04]
currently the general manager of 1873
[45:06]
Bar and Grill, Neil's Wine House, and
[45:08]
the 1873 Bar and Grill food trailer. Um,
[45:11]
I work roughly 60hour weeks. I am there
[45:13]
all the time, open to close, especially
[45:15]
on weekends and busy days or when we
[45:17]
have events. Um, I hold the food manager
[45:20]
um, certificate for all the places. I do
[45:23]
all the scheduling. I do everything
[45:24]
there. I applied for my bartender's
[45:26]
license, not to make cash tips or to be
[45:29]
the bartender so that I could hold the
[45:30]
license so I could train new people, get
[45:32]
new people in and working and save on
[45:34]
payroll costs so that we don't have five
[45:37]
people in the building. Me training
[45:38]
someone holding the license and the new
[45:40]
person working. I just wanted to hold
[45:42]
the license so I could train them. Um, I
[45:44]
wouldn't actually be bartending. I have
[45:47]
a letter of recommendation from my
[45:49]
employer. I don't know if you guys would
[45:51]
like to read. I have two copies I could
[45:53]
pass around or if you want me to read
[45:56]
it, I could. I don't necessarily like
[45:59]
speaking in front of all of you guys,
[46:00]
but I would. Um,
[46:03]
yeah, I'm just asking for
[46:04]
reconsideration. Um, in my letter, I was
[46:06]
denied from two or more drug or alcohol
[46:10]
convictions in the last 5 years. My
[46:12]
convictions are from September of 2023.
[46:15]
However, my charges were April, the most
[46:18]
recent one was April 6th of 2022. I had
[46:21]
a very premature baby after that who was
[46:23]
in the NICU and my court dates kept
[46:25]
getting pushed back and that's why I was
[46:27]
convicted so late. It's been almost five
[46:29]
years since I've been in trouble. I'm in
[46:31]
compliance with all of my AODA
[46:33]
treatment, my probation and parole. Um I
[46:36]
could pass UA at any time. I I don't
[46:39]
drink. I don't do drugs. I I work and I
[46:42]
go home to my baby. I just want to hold
[46:44]
that license so I can train staff and
[46:46]
save on our payroll.
[46:48]
Um, I don't really have anything else to
[46:50]
say. Do you guys want to read the letter
[46:52]
from my employer?
[46:54]
>> All right.
[46:56]
>> Pass it around.
[47:09]
» Slinker. So my concern is that um like
[47:14]
if I understand you don't plan to be
[47:16]
bartending but there's not a
[47:18]
differentiation in the license.
[47:20]
So like
[47:21]
>> I would hold the license so that
[47:22]
somebody there when we hire new people
[47:24]
who don't have it they could work under
[47:26]
my license.
[47:27]
>> I understand but there's nothing that
[47:28]
like if we give this to you then there's
[47:30]
my understanding is there's nothing that
[47:31]
stops you from doing that. So I know
[47:33]
that's not your intent but we don't have
[47:35]
a like trainer license. Correct. You're
[47:39]
correct, Amy.
[47:40]
>> So, so that that's my struggle with it
[47:43]
is like
[47:45]
it's
[47:46]
if we start making exceptions
[47:50]
like we don't have the ability to stop
[47:52]
that because we already gave you
[47:54]
permission. So, you could decide in a
[47:58]
week or a month or a year that you want
[47:59]
to do it and then you
[48:01]
>> Well, I'm a salary paid employee. They
[48:03]
don't allow me to make cash tips or work
[48:06]
like that. But I mean, I understand I
[48:07]
could take it some somewhere else, but
[48:09]
that's
[48:11]
not the intent.
[48:15]
» Person Green.
[48:16]
>> And that's my struggle with our our
[48:19]
liquor license as we hold it here. Um,
[48:22]
and I think it changed in the recent
[48:24]
time statewide is that you could take
[48:28]
the license even though not doing cash
[48:31]
tips,
[48:32]
you can go and work for another bar. Not
[48:35]
that you want to because you're working
[48:36]
60 hours, but you could
[48:39]
or you could leave your employer in a
[48:42]
week and go work someplace else. Nothing
[48:46]
stopping us from doing citywide, not
[48:48]
just
[48:51]
>> I understand. I just wanted to make the
[48:53]
attempt.
[48:57]
» President Crowley,
[48:58]
>> I've had my own regrets in the past and
[49:01]
changed things. Uh, don't make me regret
[49:04]
this. I make a motion to approve her
[49:06]
liquor license.
[49:08]
>> The person wet.
[49:10]
>> Second it.
[49:14]
» All the person Bernander.
[49:17]
>> I think I'll I'll vote with um but yeah,
[49:21]
just don't don't screw up.
[49:22]
>> I won't.
[49:22]
>> Okay.
[49:23]
>> I won't. I promise I won't.
[49:26]
>> We've been we've been burnt in the
[49:27]
recent past on it.
[49:30]
You guys are making me cry and I don't
[49:31]
even know half of you. Close to
[49:32]
[laughter] you. Almost all of you.
[49:34]
>> Okay.
[49:37]
>> Thank you.
[49:38]
>> Other
[49:40]
uh other questions.
[49:44]
All right. Becky, call the role.
[49:48]
>> Bernander.
[49:49]
>> Hi.
[49:50]
>> Rwley.
[49:50]
>> Hi.
[49:51]
>> Dun. I
[49:54]
>> Green.
[49:58]
» Hi.
[50:01]
Blinkert.
[50:02]
>> No,
[50:04]
>> I
[50:07]
» passes. Thank you guys.
[50:13]
» No, you're good. Thank you. You're good.
[50:19]
» Discussion and possible action
[50:21]
reconsideration of operator license
[50:23]
application for Shaya Krebs.
[50:30]
Hi, my name is Shaya Cubs. Um, so I also
[50:33]
work at 1873.
[50:37]
Um, it's just me and my son. I'm I take
[50:40]
a pay cut when I don't have my liquor
[50:42]
license. Um, I filled what I did wrong
[50:46]
is I put I was assuming from Wisconsin.
[50:49]
I had no felonies. Um, I have one felony
[50:52]
from three years ago in Florida and I
[50:55]
have one. Now, my cases they're um
[51:00]
concluded and I just have a it is a
[51:02]
felony, but it's a bail jumping. No drug
[51:04]
charges, no anything like that. Um
[51:08]
so once I get my liquor license, I can
[51:12]
pay raise and then I can my son better.
[51:16]
Um just asking to reconsider. I've
[51:19]
really turned my life around um when
[51:22]
everything I'm supposed to. on
[51:24]
probation, but I'm complying with that.
[51:26]
I've never had any um
[51:29]
anything like that.
[51:46]
» Um I understand and appreciate you
[51:48]
coming. Um, but I'm in the same boat
[51:50]
where the rules are the rules. We have
[51:54]
reasons and rules
[51:56]
to I understand the issue with the
[51:59]
paperwork, but a felony from 23 in
[52:02]
Florida. Um, and another pending for
[52:06]
maintaining drug trafficking. Um,
[52:09]
>> that's all concluded. I I was not found
[52:11]
guilty of that. I just Yeah. So, I just
[52:14]
have the bail jumping. Okay. Yeah,
[52:16]
that's
[52:17]
>> okay.
[52:20]
Still, I appreciate that you've gotten
[52:22]
your life turned around, but I take
[52:23]
bartender licenses and being in that
[52:26]
position of having the ability to make
[52:28]
good choices for the rest of our
[52:30]
citizens. Very important.
[52:36]
» Person Bernander,
[52:39]
>> so you said you're on probation.
[52:42]
This that's for the methamphetamine and
[52:44]
the drug paraphernalia.
[52:45]
>> No, that that was from Florida.
[52:48]
That's That was
[52:49]
>> When was that?
[52:52]
>> 2023 with methamphetamine in Florida.
[52:54]
>> Yeah, that was Yeah.
[52:57]
>> That pretty hard drug.
[53:03]
» Yeah.
[53:05]
Be kind of a difficult decision.
[53:18]
person green.
[53:20]
>> I think this one's a little more
[53:21]
difficult for me because
[53:25]
previous
[53:30]
» Yeah. 2026.
[53:35]
» Um,
[53:36]
>> but I wasn't found guilty.
[53:40]
>> It's that wasn't was updated. My case
[53:42]
was concluded the beginning of August.
[53:53]
I just looked at uh
[53:58]
that key charge was read in
[54:07]
may be able to explain
[54:10]
I
[54:25]
does say charge dismissed but read in
[54:33]
drug trafficking please
[54:38]
jumping
[55:24]
All the person here.
[55:25]
>> Can I ask what the probation is for?
[55:27]
Which which offense?
[55:29]
>> Felony bail jumping.
[55:30]
>> And how long is the probation for?
[55:32]
>> Years.
[55:38]
» And how long are you into this now?
[56:00]
I carry a bartender's license and I
[56:03]
guess if
[56:06]
Mr. Green said that if you were like a
[56:08]
couple years outside of the probation,
[56:16]
» I could understand. But when you're just
[56:18]
right into starting the probation,
[56:22]
» I don't I don't I wouldn't recommend.
[56:26]
And again and again my my problem again
[56:29]
is that
[56:40]
I
[56:46]
Green.
[56:46]
>> I make a motion to deny this
[56:49]
application.
[56:54]
» Do we need to?
[56:55]
>> Yes, a motion is needed
[57:03]
» for the same reasons from the initial
[57:04]
denial.
[57:09]
» Bernander second.
[57:12]
>> Any further discussion?
[57:16]
Becky, color roll, please.
[57:17]
>> We're voting to deny her appeal.
[57:19]
>> Correct.
[57:22]
>> Becky, color roll, please.
[57:23]
>> Ryley,
[57:23]
>> I
[57:25]
>> Dan.
[57:26]
>> Hi,
[57:27]
>> Green.
[57:27]
>> Hi,
[57:29]
>> Linkert.
[57:29]
>> Hi,
[57:30]
>> Tranto.
[57:31]
>> Hi,
[57:32]
>> Wel
[57:35]
Bernander.
[57:38]
» Thank you.
[57:43]
discussion and possible action. Change
[57:45]
normal meeting date of Tuesday, November
[57:47]
2020 20 sorry, November 24th, 2026 to
[57:51]
Monday, November 23rd, 2026.
[57:54]
This is for budget passing the week of
[57:57]
Thanksgiving.
[58:01]
» Person Berner, I'll move to approve the
[58:03]
change of date.
[58:05]
Hello,
[58:06]
>> personel.
[58:08]
Any further discussion?
[58:11]
Changing.
[58:12]
>> Call the roll, please.
[58:13]
>> Donny,
[58:14]
>> hi.
[58:14]
>> Green.
[58:15]
>> Hi.
[58:16]
>> Slinkert.
[58:16]
>> Hi.
[58:17]
>> Trantow.
[58:18]
>> Hi.
[58:18]
>> Wetszel.
[58:19]
>> Hi.
[58:19]
>> Bernander.
[58:20]
>> Hi.
[58:21]
>> Cwley.
[58:21]
>> Hi.
[58:22]
>> Passes. So, put that on your calendar,
[58:24]
please.
[58:28]
» Uh, department head reports. Q&A with
[58:30]
department heads.
[58:52]
I'll ask a question.
[58:53]
>> Yes.
[58:54]
>> Prove I did my homework.
[58:55]
>> Um I have a question on the you have
[58:58]
shifts A
[59:01]
are those what what kind of shifts are
[59:02]
they working? Are they like out like
[59:04]
second third or is it
[59:11]
just three cohorts?
[59:14]
Okay,
[59:16]
>> I was trying to correlate some things.
[59:24]
» Other questions for our department
[59:26]
heads?
[59:31]
» I was going to ask one otherwise. Uh I
[59:33]
was going to ask Debbie. Uh so I know
[59:34]
that we have the our big read book
[59:36]
coming up with uh the America's 250th
[59:39]
Women in the Revolutionary War. Do we
[59:42]
know how many people have signed up for
[59:43]
that and like what the usual numbers for that is
[1:00:13]
Other
[1:00:37]
questions?
[1:00:46]
discussion common council and committee
[1:00:48]
process.
[1:00:50]
>> Everyone, I'll jump on here to kick off
[1:00:53]
the conversation.
[1:00:55]
Um, for the last couple years, the
[1:00:57]
common council has had a temporary
[1:00:59]
resolution governing how the standing
[1:01:01]
committee common council process works.
[1:01:03]
Uh the prior resolution that was in
[1:01:05]
place um uh created a council kind of
[1:01:09]
driven process. Two meetings per month,
[1:01:11]
items started at the council um unless
[1:01:14]
otherwise required by an ordinance or
[1:01:16]
others um statute and then um discussion
[1:01:20]
and action could take place at the
[1:01:22]
council level um through the process. On
[1:01:25]
the memo tried to make a little bit of a
[1:01:26]
flowchart that kind of outlaid a process
[1:01:29]
an item would follow. Uh then earlier
[1:01:33]
this year um cuz that resolution
[1:01:35]
expired, we had a conversation about it
[1:01:37]
and adopted a new one that um took the
[1:01:41]
very similar type approach the end of
[1:01:43]
the day and has one council meeting per
[1:01:46]
month versus two. Originally we had a
[1:01:49]
discussion about general items like this
[1:01:51]
on the front end. We've moved to the
[1:01:53]
back of the agenda and some other items
[1:01:55]
around. So now it's one agenda packet
[1:01:58]
and items start the council discussion
[1:02:00]
and action unless otherwise referred to
[1:02:03]
committee then ultimately come back to
[1:02:04]
the council. So we're here tonight
[1:02:07]
because this um resolution was temporary
[1:02:09]
last six months which is October. So
[1:02:12]
check in and see how you like this
[1:02:14]
process um and what direction you may
[1:02:17]
have for staff as we work to bring back
[1:02:19]
something for October to help navigate
[1:02:22]
what comes forward from staff's
[1:02:24]
perspective. are happy to work any way
[1:02:26]
you guys wish. Um the one meeting a
[1:02:28]
month does give us a substantial
[1:02:31]
administrative
[1:02:32]
savings in terms of time in a given
[1:02:35]
packing week takes about a half or 50%
[1:02:38]
of someone's time to prep and push a
[1:02:41]
council packet out. So um for us it is a
[1:02:45]
time saving allows you to work on other
[1:02:47]
items that we bring forward. But if you
[1:02:49]
guys wish to go back to two meetings or
[1:02:50]
a different structure, happy to take
[1:02:52]
your feedback um and bring it forward in
[1:02:55]
October.
[1:03:03]
» Person Cwley,
[1:03:04]
>> I don't like changing things back and
[1:03:06]
forth. I'm fine keeping it the way it
[1:03:07]
is. [laughter]
[1:03:12]
» Want to go back? I don't want to change
[1:03:13]
it. [cough]
[1:03:15]
[clears throat]
[1:03:17]
Other thing to point out this resolution
[1:03:19]
does did it combine finance,
[1:03:20]
administration and personnel into one
[1:03:22]
committee or HR into one committee. Um
[1:03:24]
so that's a part of it as well.
[1:03:31]
» Um I think that we ask you guys to do a
[1:03:34]
lot with a little um and if having one
[1:03:38]
meeting helps alleviate burden and we
[1:03:42]
can get everything done in one
[1:03:45]
I like it. I also get more done because
[1:03:48]
I prepare once for what we're going to
[1:03:50]
talk about rather than multiple times a
[1:03:52]
month. I like it.
[1:03:57]
» Well, person Bernander,
[1:03:58]
>> I feel like we're losing a little bit of
[1:03:59]
touch with the department heads by a
[1:04:03]
month, but I understand
[1:04:06]
the the struggle the balance here.
[1:04:10]
I guess that's my feedback.
[1:04:13]
I guess my my question when you say that
[1:04:14]
we we lose like touch with department
[1:04:16]
heads, do you mean like we have less
[1:04:17]
time to question them or like just that
[1:04:19]
we don't see them as often or like I
[1:04:21]
guess what do you mean by that?
[1:04:23]
>> Yeah, I miss them. No, [laughter]
[1:04:27]
» no, I it's it's you know things do come
[1:04:29]
up and need timely answers and so I
[1:04:32]
think that's another part that we're
[1:04:34]
missing.
[1:04:36]
Quick feedback, but
[1:04:39]
I don't know. Not that you're going to
[1:04:40]
go, you know, rogue or anything, do
[1:04:44]
anything crazy while we're gone for 30
[1:04:47]
days out of 31, but
[1:04:50]
I do feel like having more contact
[1:04:53]
creates better rapport and uh better
[1:04:57]
check-ins. But I understand building
[1:04:59]
packet is the time.
[1:05:04]
It's a a resource
[1:05:07]
losing out on
[1:05:12]
the resolution though or the way we're
[1:05:14]
operating does allow like if something
[1:05:16]
did need to get discussed even and I
[1:05:18]
think that's I think we're all open to
[1:05:21]
if we need to have a meeting next week
[1:05:23]
or we need to have a meeting the week
[1:05:24]
like if we need a meeting like we should
[1:05:27]
have a meeting but I don't like the idea
[1:05:29]
of having two on the calendar just for
[1:05:30]
the sake of having two on the calendar
[1:05:32]
either right so it's like do we have one
[1:05:34]
on knowing we could have another like
[1:05:37]
more impromptu one versus scheduling two
[1:05:40]
when we really only needed one.
[1:05:47]
The good thing is it's temporary. So
[1:05:49]
let's say something big happened or
[1:05:52]
somebody new came on,
[1:05:55]
I don't know, you just never know. So
[1:05:57]
it's good to have
[1:06:00]
in case
[1:06:02]
we all start to disagree with somebody
[1:06:04]
or something. [laughter]
[1:06:06]
I mean, we all pay taxes and everybody's
[1:06:09]
big complaint in the in the community is
[1:06:11]
we pay too much taxes
[1:06:14]
and you guys have very little to work
[1:06:16]
with. [laughter]
[1:06:18]
I don't know. We're supposed to
[1:06:19]
represent those people who are paying.
[1:06:22]
We should have
[1:06:26]
connection.
[1:06:30]
I'm doing a nice segment video segment
[1:06:32]
coming up for the budget on where
[1:06:34]
exactly tax money is going because that
[1:06:37]
way when people say we're spending too
[1:06:38]
much on this like well here's how many
[1:06:41]
dollars going to police here's how many
[1:06:42]
are going to fire here's how many are
[1:06:44]
going to public works and parks so that
[1:06:45]
way like well if if we were to remove
[1:06:48]
this you'd lose like garbage if we
[1:06:50]
remove this you'd lose whatever so that
[1:06:52]
way people can see exactly where
[1:06:54]
everything's going
[1:06:57]
like a lot of people don't realize that
[1:06:58]
they they think it's all going somewhere
[1:07:02]
a lot of people Becky if I'm wrong let
[1:07:04]
me But I don't think a lot of people
[1:07:06]
come and request copies of our budget to
[1:07:08]
look through. So [laughter]
[1:07:10]
>> that'd be true. That'd be true. [cough]
[1:07:12]
>> So I just figure like
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>> it's on the website. They might It is
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right.
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>> They might.
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>> Fortunately, it's not.
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» So what I can do going into next month
[1:07:24]
is I can work to bring forward um an
[1:07:28]
ordinance that that governs this and at
[1:07:31]
any time the council can bring it back
[1:07:32]
to an agenda. can amend it in the
[1:07:34]
future. Um, I think our city attorney
[1:07:38]
would want us to work our way out from a
[1:07:40]
temporary resolution to have something
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just that's in place, but there's
[1:07:44]
nothing to say an older person or the
[1:07:45]
mayor can't call it back in a future
[1:07:47]
meeting and have changes made.
[1:07:53]
» I mean, it's it's to have something
[1:07:57]
temporary resolution.
[1:08:01]
So I think it seems to me that
[1:08:08]
working well
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» sure I can bring attempt to extend it
[1:08:16]
and then later this year we can
[1:08:25]
next or meeting. Okay,
[1:08:30]
got it.
[1:08:32]
Sounds good to me.
[1:08:35]
>> Else I got what I need. Thank you
[1:08:37]
everyone.
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>> Discussion electronic mobility devices.
[1:08:43]
>> Hey. Um, so Justin, I think I emailed.
[1:08:47]
>> Perfect. So, I just wanted to touch base
[1:08:49]
with you guys because, uh, ebikes. So,
[1:08:52]
that's a thing. Um, that's what I'll say
[1:08:55]
right now. When when Justin and uh Sam
[1:08:58]
and I were at the chief's executive
[1:09:00]
conference, there was quite a bit of
[1:09:02]
debate about this. Uh I don't know if
[1:09:04]
you guys saw the latest edition from the
[1:09:06]
municipality, but there was a segment in
[1:09:08]
there about ebikes. And I know that some
[1:09:11]
people have brought up different things.
[1:09:13]
And so I have kind of talked a little
[1:09:15]
bit to um administration. I've talked a
[1:09:17]
little bit uh to you know, Chief Klafky
[1:09:20]
a little bit about, you know, his
[1:09:21]
thoughts on it. And so I kind of wanted
[1:09:23]
to very briefly line out like what
[1:09:26]
options we do have versus what options
[1:09:28]
we don't have and see kind of where you
[1:09:31]
want to go from there and that way we
[1:09:32]
can get Chief Hassi and um Chief
[1:09:35]
Klafky's kind of input right here. So
[1:09:38]
one of the things that the league was
[1:09:41]
telling us that we should try to stay
[1:09:42]
away from is anything where you're just
[1:09:44]
saying nope we're not going to allow
[1:09:46]
these just ban them. Right? So they've
[1:09:48]
advised us like there's regulations here
[1:09:51]
in state statutes. So don't try to sit
[1:09:53]
and prohibit and certain things here. Um
[1:09:57]
and then trying to create age
[1:09:59]
requirements. They they've also told us
[1:10:01]
to not go for that. That also creates a
[1:10:04]
issue for police because if you're
[1:10:06]
seeing somebody riding an ebike like are
[1:10:09]
they 15, are they 17 like that if you
[1:10:12]
try to throw an age number on that that
[1:10:14]
becomes kind of a nightmare to enforce.
[1:10:17]
um if you're driving by there and then
[1:10:19]
trying to license some of these ebikes,
[1:10:21]
they've also kind of steered us away
[1:10:22]
from that um because with some of these
[1:10:26]
regulations that are in the state code
[1:10:30]
um those might get challenged in court
[1:10:32]
and might not hold up. So they've
[1:10:34]
generally recommended uh we avoid those
[1:10:37]
options there on the right. So that's
[1:10:40]
their guidance for us. Um, one of the
[1:10:44]
things that we have seen other
[1:10:45]
municipalities do that are totally
[1:10:50]
okay that have worked. So up like Nino
[1:10:52]
Manasha up in the Fox Valley, a lot of
[1:10:56]
um those cities have banned things like
[1:10:59]
stunt driving, trick driving, towing
[1:11:01]
riders, things like that. So anything
[1:11:04]
where you're trying to have unsafe
[1:11:06]
riding and they have their definitions
[1:11:08]
for that, that's something that is okay.
[1:11:11]
We also have the power to decide where
[1:11:13]
we want these. So we can say they need
[1:11:16]
to operate in the roadway. We can say
[1:11:18]
they need to be on the sidewalk. Uh we
[1:11:21]
can say they can be in park trails or
[1:11:23]
they can't be in park trails. So we have
[1:11:26]
options on where we would like to see
[1:11:27]
these. Um we could require helmets. Um
[1:11:32]
if you're riding one of these, that is
[1:11:34]
an option. Um I know that that can be
[1:11:37]
problematic. Um, if somebody repeatedly
[1:11:40]
violates, we we could look at a possible
[1:11:43]
impound. Obviously, I'd like to defer to
[1:11:46]
kind of Chief Klafky's um thoughts on
[1:11:48]
that. If we have someone repeatedly
[1:11:51]
violating um something like that, then
[1:11:54]
we could look at at that. But, um I I
[1:11:57]
just figured I'd bring this up so that
[1:11:58]
we could have a full council
[1:11:59]
conversation. we get input from police
[1:12:02]
and fire chiefs on kind of what they
[1:12:04]
think because some of this enforcement
[1:12:06]
might be difficult or you know in terms
[1:12:08]
of like EMS related stuff. I know that a
[1:12:11]
lot of mayors in the Milwaukee area have
[1:12:13]
good relationships with Children's
[1:12:14]
Hospital and there's just been a
[1:12:16]
insanely
[1:12:18]
rapid rise in the amount of injuries
[1:12:20]
Children's is seeing because of ebikes.
[1:12:23]
Um, and I think it's also important to
[1:12:25]
note too that
[1:12:27]
there's limits to, you know, government
[1:12:29]
action, too, because a lot of, you know,
[1:12:31]
kids and a lot of people that work on
[1:12:33]
these, they can do modifications to
[1:12:34]
these things to make them go faster. Um,
[1:12:37]
so we we do have options. That's not,
[1:12:40]
you know, going to be everything, of
[1:12:42]
course, but I wanted to just kind of
[1:12:44]
have this conversation. I've had a few
[1:12:47]
residents that have reached out to me. I
[1:12:48]
know a few of you guys have also reached
[1:12:50]
out to me with some ideas. There's some
[1:12:52]
good ordinances from like the village of
[1:12:54]
Weston, from uh, you know, Manasha and
[1:12:56]
Nenina that that have some of these. So,
[1:12:58]
there's different options. Um, and I
[1:13:00]
just kind of wanted to kind of give you
[1:13:02]
guys the opportunity. What have you
[1:13:04]
heard? What things would you like to
[1:13:05]
see? And then questions for the chiefs
[1:13:08]
if they wanted to get their input. Um
[1:13:16]
other person done he
[1:13:17]
>> you know that they uh are at the skate
[1:13:21]
park with some of them
[1:13:26]
» look into signage skate
[1:13:34]
they're not a skateboard so I've seen
[1:13:37]
him riding around on the skate park um
[1:13:39]
and also on the splash pad in that area.
[1:13:42]
And I just if we can look into signage
[1:13:45]
that they know that they can't use
[1:14:04]
regular bikes are not allowed.
[1:14:19]
other slicker.
[1:14:20]
>> And so are we specifically only talking
[1:14:22]
about actual ebikes right now or are we
[1:14:24]
talking about all things E?
[1:14:27]
>> I [laughter] think I I think I think
[1:14:29]
before that I just kind of wanted to get
[1:14:30]
a temperature before because it we could
[1:14:32]
if we go down a rabbit hole of well
[1:14:33]
which E do we want to talk about? Like I
[1:14:36]
think we should first like take a look
[1:14:38]
at what options do we kind of prefer.
[1:14:41]
>> So we're talking about ebikes, the ones
[1:14:43]
with pedals, classes one, two, and three
[1:14:45]
that the state has already defined for
[1:14:47]
us and these are our limits. So in my
[1:14:51]
mind, the only one that we should
[1:14:53]
probably worry about is number two,
[1:14:55]
which goes to like where they can be,
[1:14:57]
but that should be consistent with where
[1:14:59]
bicycles can be. um is my understanding
[1:15:03]
from what I've read.
[1:15:05]
>> Well, the person Bernander,
[1:15:06]
>> I'd like two maybe three things. One,
[1:15:09]
when I walk my dog early in the morning,
[1:15:11]
there's one that whizzes by me, got no
[1:15:13]
lights on, so I think they should have
[1:15:14]
lights on when it's dark out. And two, I
[1:15:18]
don't want them on the trails because
[1:15:20]
they go super fast and my dog's going to
[1:15:22]
get run over by it
[1:15:25]
and she's stupid, so it's going to
[1:15:26]
happen. [laughter]
[1:15:28]
>> But wouldn't that be the same thing for
[1:15:30]
bikes? themsel like the lights would be
[1:15:32]
right.
[1:15:33]
>> They go 30 miles an hour on the path
[1:15:35]
though. I mean, and they're silent. So,
[1:15:37]
there's no warning when they're behind
[1:15:38]
you. Unlike a bicycle that's maybe going
[1:15:41]
12, 15 miles an hour. This thing's going
[1:15:43]
twice as fast with no light and my dog Barks.
[1:15:48]
>> I have a litany of things.
[1:15:50]
>> Um, [laughter]
[1:15:52]
>> so, so Fondelac and Westbend. Um, if you
[1:15:56]
haven't seen, I think I sent you
[1:15:57]
Westbends. It's really good. Um, no
[1:16:01]
passengers. No passengers. No passengers on bikes,
[1:16:04]
scooters, anything. No passengers. It's
[1:16:06]
built for one. It gets one. Done. No
[1:16:09]
passengers. That's going to stop kids
[1:16:10]
getting hurt. The second thing, they
[1:16:13]
take your bike. In Westben, is it
[1:16:15]
Westbend or Fondelac? If you're in
[1:16:17]
violation and you're a child, they take
[1:16:20]
your bike and a guardian has to get it.
[1:16:22]
It's it's a oneandone, at least
[1:16:23]
according to their ordinance. Um, I
[1:16:26]
think helmet requirements
[1:16:29]
would do a lot just to keep kids off of
[1:16:31]
them because helmets aren't cool if
[1:16:32]
you're a kid. Um, I think helmets under
[1:16:34]
16 should be mandatory. Um, if that can
[1:16:38]
happen. Um, but that falls against the
[1:16:41]
sort of age requirements thing. Um, as
[1:16:44]
far as where they can and can't ride. I
[1:16:46]
get to see downtown every day. I don't
[1:16:48]
think there should be any ridden bicycle
[1:16:50]
traffic, motorized or otherwise, between
[1:16:53]
um Lock Street and Adams and Conan and
[1:16:57]
um
[1:16:59]
I guess it would be Cook. I think it
[1:17:02]
should be walking in that area. In the
[1:17:04]
downtown area, no riding your bicycle in
[1:17:07]
any way.
[1:17:09]
>> Is that
[1:17:12]
» Yeah,
[1:17:13]
>> in the bid district there's no bikes.
[1:17:16]
Well,
[1:17:16]
>> well,
[1:17:18]
are there signs up the
[1:17:20]
>> No,
[1:17:21]
>> I'm just because I see a lot of people
[1:17:23]
doing it. A lot of lot of kids,
[1:17:24]
especially this time of year. Uh,
[1:17:26]
emotos.
[1:17:29]
» We're talking about just
[1:17:30]
>> they can't run. Well, okay. Well, I'm on
[1:17:33]
it. Um, but the helmets, uh, no
[1:17:36]
passengers. I think, uh, if you're
[1:17:39]
operating under pedal power, um,
[1:17:42]
sidewalk and trails is okay. That's my
[1:17:43]
opinion. If you're operating under pedal
[1:17:45]
power, if you're on throttle or a or if
[1:17:48]
you're on throttle, you've got to be on
[1:17:50]
the road. So, for example, if an officer
[1:17:52]
was driving and they saw somebody going
[1:17:54]
up, maybe under the train tracks and
[1:17:55]
they were on the sidewalk without moving
[1:17:57]
their legs.
[1:18:02]
Um, so pedal power gets you on the
[1:18:05]
sidewalks. If you're going to do
[1:18:06]
anything else, you got to be on the
[1:18:07]
street, but it's still got to be legal.
[1:18:09]
and deferring to the other laws. You're
[1:18:12]
supposed to have a b a light on your
[1:18:13]
bicycle anyway. That's just a that's
[1:18:16]
already a thing. So that's
[1:18:19]
>> Yeah. Well, and you'd think the ebike
[1:18:21]
would just have like a USB is it's just
[1:18:23]
there.
[1:18:25]
>> Yeah,
[1:18:27]
>> um
[1:18:29]
>> can't take a picture,
[1:18:31]
>> of course. Yeah, banning the stunt
[1:18:33]
driving and all of that. But yeah, those
[1:18:35]
are my my things.
[1:18:37]
All person
[1:18:38]
>> I like the idea like how we have the
[1:18:40]
semis they need to follow a route that
[1:18:42]
is yellow posts. I think we should do
[1:18:45]
that to the bikes. Need to have a route
[1:18:48]
mapped around town
[1:18:50]
off the city streets, follow the street
[1:18:53]
rules. And
[1:18:55]
>> I I guess my my question I think to
[1:18:58]
Chief Klafky would be because I think my curiosity is how easy some of that
[1:19:04]
would be doing a force because my
[1:19:05]
concern is cuz like I have to teach
[1:19:07]
teenagers all day and that's hard enough
[1:19:09]
but trying to get them to like because
[1:19:13]
if we start having well you can ride
[1:19:15]
this on the sidewalks here here and here
[1:19:17]
but you can't do it there there and
[1:19:19]
there I think that becomes kind of a
[1:19:21]
nightmare to try to help people
[1:19:24]
understand where I it might be easier if
[1:19:26]
it's like it's all or nothing, right?
[1:19:28]
Like we're either putting them on the
[1:19:29]
sidewalks,
[1:19:32]
you know, here and that's it because if
[1:19:35]
the more that you try to make exceptions
[1:19:37]
or say, well, here they can't hear the worse that's going to be, I think,
[1:19:41]
for everybody. Um, so I guess
[1:19:45]
that's kind of what what I'm looking at.
[1:19:47]
>> Well, I don't think the route would
[1:19:48]
work. So the reason a semi route works
[1:19:50]
is because they're passing through our
[1:19:52]
city. So I don't know how you would
[1:19:54]
enforce like if I don't live on the bike
[1:19:56]
route, I have to still get to the bike
[1:19:58]
route. So what am I going to do? I'm
[1:19:59]
going to ride my bike. So then you're
[1:20:01]
still going to have people riding their
[1:20:02]
bikes not on the bike route because you
[1:20:03]
have to get to the bike route versus a
[1:20:05]
semi route which is for thoroughfare
[1:20:08]
purposes. So I don't know that that
[1:20:10]
would work. But I I mean I agree. it. I
[1:20:13]
like the if you're going to ride your
[1:20:15]
bike um with your own feet, you can ride
[1:20:18]
it on the sidewalk and otherwise you
[1:20:19]
have to ride it in the street. If you're
[1:20:21]
going to use assist, if you're going to
[1:20:22]
be moving the speed of traffic, you
[1:20:23]
should be with the traffic.
[1:20:31]
» That probably does get harder, too.
[1:20:34]
>> Yeah, that gets really tough.
[1:20:36]
>> Oh, person green. Um well I guess my
[1:20:39]
sorry my question would be for the chief
[1:20:42]
um bike helmets
[1:20:45]
we don't
[1:20:51]
I didn't think we did but we do stop and
[1:20:54]
talk to kids that do it if they're not
[1:20:56]
wearing a helmet you guys will stop and
[1:20:58]
hey
[1:21:03]
yeah I know do they do the same thing
[1:21:04]
with like the ebikes try to teach Um second thing is is with the lights.
[1:21:10]
There is state or state law that they
[1:21:13]
have to have working lights on.
[1:21:18]
Um I guess that's my
[1:21:22]
doubt who that is so that get them.
[1:21:26]
But I I struggle with where the ebikes
[1:21:31]
should be
[1:21:32]
because
[1:21:35]
on the sidewalk, yes, they're going fast
[1:21:37]
and they're going somebody is walking on
[1:21:40]
the road. Now you're putting them with
[1:21:41]
traffic. That's where I
[1:21:44]
car is much bigger than a bike and they
[1:21:46]
don't look they just turn
[1:21:49]
front of a car or a truck. So
[1:21:52]
struggle with where to put them.
[1:21:56]
Oh, the person crawly.
[1:21:57]
>> We don't have bike lanes.
[1:21:58]
>> The ATV, UTV. I don't think we were able
[1:22:00]
to limit where they travel either. So, I
[1:22:02]
don't think that's that's a non-starter.
[1:22:05]
Um, I do think we should impound the
[1:22:07]
bikes for reckless and danger dangerous
[1:22:10]
riding and mandate that they have lights
[1:22:13]
on them. Don't have a light, you're
[1:22:14]
going to lose your bike.
[1:22:16]
You get a a warning.
[1:22:22]
But we do have bike lanes.
[1:22:25]
>> We do.
[1:22:26]
>> Yeah. On
[1:22:27]
>> Elbert Street. I have a bike lane my
[1:22:30]
house.
[1:22:30]
>> One street.
[1:22:31]
>> No, that's not the only street. There
[1:22:32]
are other streets. There's
[1:22:33]
>> opponent or Carol does not. That's so
[1:22:36]
they'll be weaving in and out.
[1:22:38]
>> But they do have we do have bike lanes
[1:22:39]
throughout the town and they are still
[1:22:42]
riding on the sidewalk even with that
[1:22:44]
bike lane right there.
[1:22:46]
But I mean, if they're able to do 25
[1:22:50]
miles an hour, then I agree they should
[1:22:52]
be on the road. But if
[1:22:55]
instead of on the sidewalk
[1:22:59]
» and it's just common sense, like we're
[1:23:02]
telling saying something about the kids
[1:23:04]
being common sense that um they need to,
[1:23:08]
you know, watch out for people. I think
[1:23:10]
as car drivers, we should also use our
[1:23:13]
common sense that if we see somebody
[1:23:15]
going down the road, we know that we
[1:23:17]
need to either pull over, avoid them,
[1:23:20]
because it's not just the kids on the
[1:23:21]
bike, it's not just the adults on the
[1:23:22]
bike, it's also people driving cars or
[1:23:24]
people walking on the sidewalk. It's
[1:23:26]
everybody.
[1:23:27]
>> So, do that. But we know that a lot of
[1:23:29]
motorists don't pay attention. That's
[1:23:32]
the problem.
[1:23:32]
>> It doesn't matter what they're driving.
[1:23:34]
>> I I see it. I see it all the time out on
[1:23:36]
the road,
[1:23:38]
>> living during the summer. and they don't
[1:23:40]
pay attention to a big truck, let alone
[1:23:42]
a bike. Um, but that brings another
[1:23:45]
question for the chief. Um, if they're
[1:23:48]
out violating like road rules, I know
[1:23:51]
you're supposed to use like hand signals
[1:23:53]
if you're turning or whatever and
[1:23:56]
looking, but if they're violating any
[1:23:58]
hand or any road rules when they're on
[1:24:01]
the road, not stopping for stop signs,
[1:24:04]
stuff like that. Is there any ticket
[1:24:05]
process or anything that
[1:24:12]
» I see them all the time. They they blow
[1:24:14]
right through stop signs.
[1:24:16]
state
[1:24:17]
>> or state laws all that they could.
[1:24:26]
» I see it all the time that they bike
[1:24:28]
will just blow right through a stop
[1:24:30]
sign. It's like you didn't even look
[1:24:31]
either direction.
[1:24:32]
>> So, but and I guess to that point,
[1:24:34]
that's my issue with them being on the
[1:24:35]
sidewalks. I think when they're on the
[1:24:38]
sidewalk, they think they somehow don't
[1:24:40]
have to follow the rest of the rules of
[1:24:41]
the road. So, if they come through a
[1:24:43]
sidewalk, they're not really by the stop
[1:24:45]
sign. That's for the cars. Like, I
[1:24:47]
actually had a kid in my neighborhood
[1:24:49]
tell me that they didn't have to use
[1:24:51]
signals because they don't have them
[1:24:52]
like a car does. And I'm like, then you
[1:24:55]
if you don't know the rules, you really
[1:24:57]
shouldn't be riding on the Yes. Didn't
[1:24:59]
know that, you know, and it's like they
[1:25:00]
don't think they have to stop at those
[1:25:02]
stop signs. And like and I know that's
[1:25:04]
both all of the devices, but for ebikes,
[1:25:07]
if they're to me, if they're in the
[1:25:08]
street, they should be more cautious
[1:25:10]
because they should recognize that's
[1:25:12]
they're less safe, right? And they
[1:25:14]
should be following the stop. Like it
[1:25:16]
makes it should make them feel like a
[1:25:18]
vehicle to follow the appropriate
[1:25:20]
things, not just off the sidewalk,
[1:25:22]
across the road, right into the next
[1:25:24]
one. Because my my understanding from
[1:25:27]
what what I have read, my understanding
[1:25:28]
is that unless we specifically say these
[1:25:31]
can go on the sidewalk, it defaults to
[1:25:34]
these can only be on the road for
[1:25:35]
ebikes. That is my understanding. And
[1:25:39]
if I'm wrong, that means we because part
[1:25:43]
of why we we haven't I don't think have
[1:25:45]
pushed that as much is because wanted to
[1:25:48]
have this conversation and but if we
[1:25:51]
want them to be allowed on sidewalks,
[1:25:54]
then we would need to, I believe, make
[1:25:57]
an an ordinance change for that.
[1:25:58]
Otherwise, my understanding is state law
[1:26:00]
defaults these two. They they're on the
[1:26:02]
road.
[1:26:28]
Never mind.
[1:26:32]
Typically, they're allowed on
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Currently
[1:26:51]
they're not allowed
[1:26:54]
[clears throat]
[1:26:59]
over nextto. [laughter]
[1:27:04]
» Um what are some of the successes? This
[1:27:07]
is really just for the chiefs. What are
[1:27:10]
some of the successes that you guys have
[1:27:12]
been seeing through, you know, the
[1:27:14]
public safety side of these? So, not
[1:27:17]
just enforcement, but also citizen
[1:27:19]
safety um from, you know, your peers.
[1:27:22]
>> Yeah. So we haven't had too many knock
[1:27:25]
on the thick wood that we haven't
[1:27:32]
really comes down to, you know, guys
[1:27:34]
trying to balance
[1:27:41]
school.
[1:27:44]
You guys already talked a little bit
[1:27:49]
trying to ban it one.
[1:28:03]
Some of the things that I've seen is
[1:28:09]
part
[1:28:11]
we really didn't have any issues. We've
[1:28:12]
had ebikes for years. We
[1:28:15]
But it's popping up. Mostly what you're
[1:28:17]
seeing now is about the motor.
[1:28:20]
>> That's where your concerns.
[1:28:28]
» Those over 30, that's a completely
[1:28:30]
different story. That's
[1:28:34]
so the e- motorbikes that you guys are
[1:28:35]
seeing is what's really generating.
[1:28:39]
Not so much ebikes.
[1:28:43]
Um emotals most municipalities are
[1:28:46]
banning them
[1:28:50]
emot
[1:28:51]
They put them on put them only on
[1:28:53]
private property,
[1:28:56]
but they're not allowed on street
[1:28:59]
leg. They were going back and forth
[1:29:01]
about that wanted to allow them.
[1:29:08]
That gets really tricky when you start
[1:29:10]
put on it.
[1:29:20]
So easy things we can do
[1:29:24]
ban an e- motor bike. We can take care
[1:29:26]
of that. The e the ebikes themselves
[1:29:29]
class one two and three
[1:29:33]
bikes
[1:29:38]
bicycle here. have any
[1:29:42]
realize on that.
[1:29:46]
It should be allowed on the
[1:29:50]
[laughter]
[1:29:53]
It's really hard to tell. Like you say,
[1:29:55]
they modify stuff. It's hard to tell
[1:29:57]
when a bike passes
[1:30:02]
because of the speeds.
[1:30:04]
They're coasting down a hill and they're
[1:30:06]
not using
[1:30:10]
So many things that
[1:30:15]
first hurdle is where you want
[1:30:23]
sidewalk use. agree.
[1:30:28]
Do we really want kids that are
[1:30:37]
» Yeah. I I I think the from what I've
[1:30:40]
looked at and from what I've talked to
[1:30:42]
with some of the mayors that I looked
[1:30:43]
at, the thing that I think is is a
[1:30:45]
pretty easy thing to do is kind of like
[1:30:47]
what Alder person Tranto was saying,
[1:30:49]
like the towing riders or getting
[1:30:51]
passengers, that kind of thing. That's pretty straightforward. That's a
[1:30:55]
simple thing to do, right? Um because
[1:30:57]
then you're not trying to fight helmets.
[1:30:59]
You're not trying to fight ages. Um and
[1:31:01]
then if you want to impound a, you know,
[1:31:04]
egregious violations,
[1:31:06]
you know, I I think those are relatively
[1:31:08]
easy. And then personally for me, like I understand the the concern about being
[1:31:14]
on sidewalks, but being I know, you
[1:31:17]
know, we have kids going, you know, on
[1:31:19]
Slifer on New Pinery getting to school
[1:31:21]
with these, I really don't want
[1:31:23]
elementary school kids that are going to
[1:31:26]
be on New Pinery Road. I think that
[1:31:28]
would be a a big problem. Even Sliper in
[1:31:31]
the mornings can get relatively um busy.
[1:31:33]
So, personally, I don't have an issue if
[1:31:36]
they're on the levy trail or on these
[1:31:38]
multi-use paths or or sidewalks. Um, I
[1:31:41]
would I'd be a little more concerned
[1:31:42]
with young kids going down new pinery
[1:31:45]
because the second we say you can't be
[1:31:46]
on any sidewalks, new pinery, I think,
[1:31:50]
becomes a nightmare. Um, that's kind of
[1:31:52]
the way I I see it. So if if I was
[1:31:55]
looking at it, I would say like you want
[1:31:56]
to ban the passengers or stunt or
[1:31:59]
whatever towing people because that's
[1:32:01]
something that was happening is it take
[1:32:02]
rope and they'd be towing like none of
[1:32:04]
that, right? Um and then saying formally
[1:32:08]
yes or no to sidewalks and then
[1:32:11]
impoundment I think would be
[1:32:15]
>> other person Crowley
[1:32:16]
>> might be a Jesse question. I'm not sure.
[1:32:18]
um your situation. A 12-year-old's
[1:32:21]
flying down the road with no headlights
[1:32:22]
on and runs into Kyle. Who's liable for
[1:32:24]
that?
[1:32:25]
>> The dog. [laughter]
[1:32:30]
» The parents of the bike owner be be
[1:32:32]
liable for it or is it going to be
[1:32:34]
processed like well this is a juvenile
[1:32:35]
kid and we're not going to do anything?
[1:32:39]
>> Possible that they're
[1:32:47]
Starting
[1:32:54]
to get a little
[1:32:55]
>> I know things breaking,
[1:32:56]
>> but I mean Kyle definitely
[1:33:04]
» he's wearing all black.
[1:33:06]
>> You're Are you talking about C? Because
[1:33:08]
he could still civily sue for whatever
[1:33:10]
and then
[1:33:11]
>> Right. I mean
[1:33:21]
I I guess as a community if we're going
[1:33:23]
to allow them more and more um and not
[1:33:26]
really have an age limit on there,
[1:33:27]
Wisconsin bike fed does have an ebike
[1:33:30]
safety course that you can take. Also,
[1:33:32]
AAA also has online courses that allow
[1:33:35]
you to um learn more in regards to
[1:33:38]
safety on these ebikes.
[1:33:46]
Well, if you do the ebike, it's online
[1:33:49]
and and then also if we wanted to do a
[1:33:53]
program, there is also a bike rodeo,
[1:33:56]
which is where you can have somebody
[1:33:58]
come in. Kids can come in with their
[1:34:00]
bikes or whatever, go over the course,
[1:34:02]
have a pamphlet or something, and let
[1:34:06]
them know what the rules are going to be
[1:34:07]
or ordinances are going to be in this um
[1:34:09]
community, whether they're kids or
[1:34:11]
adults, and what they need to do. I
[1:34:14]
mean, if if we're going to allow it, we
[1:34:16]
might as well welcome it and let them
[1:34:18]
know that, you know, we do have rules
[1:34:20]
and stipulations. And if we're going to
[1:34:22]
tell them that they can't do this, then
[1:34:24]
we need to explain to them why and what
[1:34:26]
they can do.
[1:34:29]
be safe.
[1:34:30]
>> All the person.
[1:34:31]
>> Yeah. If I can I address the emoto stuff
[1:34:33]
now. Somebody moved on to pass bikes. Um
[1:34:37]
so um that I think we should ban them
[1:34:40]
entirely. I also think we should ban the
[1:34:43]
electric scooters um that the kids
[1:34:46]
terrorize, as far as I know, every
[1:34:48]
neighborhood in the city with um on and
[1:34:50]
off of curbs, into the street, back on
[1:34:53]
the curb, in the middle of the street.
[1:34:55]
Um I know other communities have done
[1:34:58]
that. Um I get that there's I an ebike I
[1:35:01]
can understand that it's being used as a
[1:35:03]
transportation device for people that
[1:35:05]
are not you know don't have another
[1:35:07]
option or it's a convenient option. I
[1:35:11]
think the motorcycles the ones that
[1:35:13]
classify as motorcycles if that's the c
[1:35:16]
if it's a cost issue and the person can
[1:35:18]
afford that and they want to drive it
[1:35:20]
they should be 16 in license. So I think
[1:35:21]
that is already covered but I do not
[1:35:24]
think we should be allowing like the mo
[1:35:27]
little motori any little motorized thing
[1:35:29]
other than like the mobility devices for
[1:35:34]
people who have um disabled type.
[1:35:38]
Weston has a very strong I loved
[1:35:41]
Weston's little thing that they put out
[1:35:42]
with the red X's of where you can't ride
[1:35:45]
things and those are just no you may not
[1:35:47]
ride these all these other e things
[1:35:49]
anywhere on our stuff. go to your
[1:35:50]
private yard and do it.
[1:35:52]
>> So, if I just to move things along, just
[1:35:54]
kind of want to just take a very quick
[1:35:56]
rapid fire temperature check. Um, just
[1:35:59]
so that we can kind of get a quick
[1:36:01]
temperature check and move on here. Like
[1:36:04]
in terms of would we be okay with like
[1:36:07]
no passengers or stunt driving trick
[1:36:10]
racing? We kind of on board with that.
[1:36:12]
That's okay. Um, are we thinking okay on
[1:36:17]
sidewalks for ebikes? peding only
[1:36:21]
or at a relative safe speed.
[1:36:25]
>> Okay.
[1:36:26]
>> Yeah.
[1:36:28]
I was going to say that one would
[1:36:29]
probably be difficult, but generally
[1:36:31]
okay with the on sidewalks because if
[1:36:33]
kids want to get to school, we don't
[1:36:34]
want them on the roads,
[1:36:35]
>> right?
[1:36:36]
>> Okay. And then
[1:36:39]
impounding possibly if we have someone
[1:36:42]
who consistently is would you be okay
[1:36:44]
with that or are we on that one?
[1:36:50]
Yeah. I mean, if you have someone who
[1:36:51]
recklessly, there's an option there. It
[1:36:53]
would probably be work, but you
[1:36:55]
>> give the officer some.
[1:36:57]
>> Yeah.
[1:36:58]
>> Um,
[1:36:58]
>> yeah. I mean, having the ordinance is
[1:37:00]
like, did I choose to enforce it? Right.
[1:37:03]
Do I right now think that this is
[1:37:05]
something I need to enforce? Oh, this is
[1:37:06]
the third time I've talked to you in
[1:37:08]
three days about what you're doing is
[1:37:10]
dangerous. Then at least it gives an
[1:37:11]
option and it it gives some teeth to the
[1:37:14]
ordinance, right? Like this is the last
[1:37:17]
stance you your bike will be impounded.
[1:37:20]
>> Traffic.
[1:37:21]
>> Yep. Yep.
[1:37:22]
>> And then
[1:37:23]
>> three in the first week.
[1:37:24]
>> Yeah.
[1:37:25]
>> What's that?
[1:37:25]
>> Take three in the first week.
[1:37:27]
>> Yeah. Right.
[1:37:28]
>> And then uh
[1:37:28]
>> well I have a theory to share with you.
[1:37:30]
And then uh [laughter] and then I guess
[1:37:33]
uh the last one emot you know not the
[1:37:36]
you know not ebikes but emot okay with
[1:37:38]
just saying no to those because those I
[1:37:41]
believe are
[1:37:43]
>> motorcycles
[1:37:46]
» property
[1:37:46]
>> we we okay with saying no no entirely to
[1:37:48]
emot
[1:37:49]
>> only on private property.
[1:37:52]
>> Oh they can go 30 plus right?
[1:37:59]
Yeah,
[1:38:06]
» it's the ones that don't have pedals.
[1:38:08]
They don't they're not bikes anymore.
[1:38:10]
>> They're like dirt bikes terrorizes our
[1:38:12]
neighborhood.
[1:38:12]
>> So basically they're So basically
[1:38:14]
they're a scooter.
[1:38:16]
>> No, they're electric dirt bike.
[1:38:18]
>> Yeah,
[1:38:18]
>> they they some of them
[1:38:20]
>> those little ones running around like
[1:38:22]
little dirt bike things.
[1:38:24]
>> Yeah, I've seen those. Yeah,
[1:38:25]
>> they look like pit bikes.
[1:38:27]
>> I I don't I don't know what they are. I
[1:38:28]
was trying to look up what they were.
[1:38:30]
>> That one that has like that huffy seat
[1:38:31]
belt or seat
[1:38:33]
>> know that wide seat.
[1:38:35]
>> They got bigger bigger tires on them.
[1:38:37]
>> Mhm.
[1:38:38]
>> Yeah. I think I've seen a couple running
[1:38:39]
around my
[1:38:40]
>> No. No. We don't want those on the
[1:38:42]
street.
[1:38:42]
>> So, it basically So, to basically quick
[1:38:45]
recap before I move on, it sounds like
[1:38:47]
we're okay with getting rid of the stunt
[1:38:49]
trick racing, you know, pulling
[1:38:51]
passengers around that. We're okay with them being on
[1:38:55]
sidewalks and we can impound and no to
[1:38:58]
emotos. Is that a summary of kind of
[1:39:00]
where we are?
[1:39:06]
» Most scooters.
[1:39:07]
>> That's only a one person device. Anyway,
[1:39:09]
we do we have a problem with electric
[1:39:11]
scooters.
[1:39:12]
>> They do the same thing. They go like 30
[1:39:13]
miles an hour.
[1:39:14]
>> Are you talking standup scooter or sit
[1:39:15]
down scooter?
[1:39:16]
>> Both.
[1:39:16]
>> They go that fast. I know I see them zip
[1:39:19]
by me, but they're zip by my house, but
[1:39:20]
I think
[1:39:22]
>> so. I guess I'll say emotos and e-
[1:39:24]
scooters. We okay with saying if there's
[1:39:26]
no pedals on it.
[1:39:27]
>> No pedals and
[1:39:28]
>> no pedals, no dice.
[1:39:30]
>> Exactly.
[1:39:31]
>> Well, but then that muddies the water
[1:39:33]
because then you have one wheels and
[1:39:35]
electricity.
[1:39:37]
>> There's a boat [clears throat]
[1:39:41]
in town.
[1:39:46]
» Yep.
[1:39:47]
aren't going to tear up a yard like
[1:39:49]
those tires are only what
[1:39:52]
>> you get literally six-year-old kids on
[1:39:54]
them like just zoom right across the
[1:39:56]
street.
[1:39:57]
>> I mean I do think
[1:39:58]
>> Oh, I see it.
[1:39:59]
>> The I think the e scooters are way more
[1:40:03]
dangerous than the other things because
[1:40:05]
the kids are standing and you just
[1:40:07]
backed up.
[1:40:12]
And I think some of them do have age
[1:40:14]
limits on it, but parents do for their
[1:40:17]
kids.
[1:40:21]
» But I still think not on the streets or
[1:40:23]
the sidewalks like ride it around your
[1:40:25]
yard.
[1:40:26]
>> Okay. With an e scooter.
[1:40:34]
I mean, I guess I'd rather have kids be
[1:40:36]
on ebikes on the levey trail than going
[1:40:38]
down 16 or 51.
[1:40:42]
>> That's a bike, though. Those are
[1:40:43]
covered.
[1:40:45]
>> All right. Um, so that I think got some
[1:40:49]
clarification there. So, we'll go ahead
[1:40:51]
and move around to the next one.
[1:40:55]
>> Administrator report.
[1:40:58]
>> One second while I switch PowerPoints if
[1:41:00]
it wants to listen.
[1:41:04]
We hear Jeopardy music
[1:41:08]
lost connectivity. So
[1:41:11]
I'll do a quick highlight summary. Road
[1:41:13]
projects, sidewalks projects are all
[1:41:15]
coming to the end. Is that time of year
[1:41:17]
that fund is drawing to a close? Um so
[1:41:21]
um Calip bathroom Hey, there it goes.
[1:41:28]
Health uh Warden bathroom projects is
[1:41:31]
slated to begin after park bathrooms
[1:41:34]
closed for the season which is October
[1:41:36]
5. Goals being completed largely in
[1:41:39]
March but no later than April 15th. Is
[1:41:41]
it Toby?
[1:41:42]
>> Ha.
[1:41:46]
» Perfect.
[1:41:48]
And then um in terms Hey, there we go.
[1:41:52]
In terms of the finances year to date,
[1:41:53]
the city's budget is good. We're in the
[1:41:55]
green. Um, we're very close. We're
[1:41:58]
running with sub% um of more revenue
[1:42:02]
than expenses to date. Some revenue
[1:42:05]
lines are a little behind than they were
[1:42:06]
last year. Uh, but uh, also there's been
[1:42:10]
cost impacts along the way. Gas is
[1:42:13]
really expensive. Diesel has gone up a
[1:42:15]
lot. Inflation's hit us just like any
[1:42:17]
other employer. So, we're watching it
[1:42:18]
closely. Um, again, that's just through
[1:42:20]
July. That's up on the screen. And once
[1:42:22]
we go through August numbers, we'll have
[1:42:24]
a better understanding where we're
[1:42:26]
standing for the remainder of the year.
[1:42:28]
Should any changes need to happen, we'll
[1:42:29]
let you guys know. But our goal is to
[1:42:31]
maintain in the positive.
[1:42:34]
Um, a reminder, the water utility rate
[1:42:36]
increase will happen in October while a
[1:42:38]
3% increase. Uh, it is roughly an 80
[1:42:42]
cent increase on the average monthly
[1:42:43]
bill for a resident. Um, and this is
[1:42:45]
again driven by PSC requirements needing
[1:42:48]
us to bring in more revenues per their
[1:42:51]
standards.
[1:42:52]
Then the 2027 budget process is
[1:42:54]
underway. The finance personnel
[1:42:56]
committees met once already and
[1:42:58]
department heads are plugging away. They
[1:43:01]
were once again given the 0% budget
[1:43:03]
increase directive. And we tossed two
[1:43:06]
new things in this cycle. Um we are
[1:43:08]
developing a sheet on the side. So if a
[1:43:10]
department can't maintain zero and what
[1:43:12]
has to come out to get them to stay in
[1:43:15]
zero, we're tracking it. So, as we go
[1:43:17]
through, we find um ways to save if
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something go needs to go back in, we
[1:43:22]
have that running list. Additionally, um
[1:43:24]
we're asking staff to look closer at our
[1:43:27]
capital plan. Usually, we just look at
[1:43:30]
next year's closely, then the rest are
[1:43:32]
more of a forecast. We're asking staff
[1:43:34]
to look very closely at 27 and 28. So,
[1:43:37]
we start planning a little further out.
[1:43:39]
Um um from from just the planning
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perspective also because we have kids
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who have some positive fund balances we
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need to plan to spend out down and close
[1:43:48]
it and all comes out of the same
[1:43:50]
employees managing and doing. So
[1:43:52]
thinking ahead is going to help us
[1:43:54]
address those at the same time. And our
[1:43:56]
goal will be next year to look at the
[1:43:58]
remainder three years of our financial
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uh our TID dang I can say the right word
[1:44:02]
sometimes um capital plan to make it um
[1:44:06]
a little more um realistic long term. So
[1:44:09]
that's that that's that one. Last but
[1:44:12]
not least is general updates. I know we
[1:44:14]
just had an election and next one's just
[1:44:16]
around the corner. Absentee ballots go
[1:44:18]
out next week and Becky is looking at
[1:44:20]
already about 515 to be mailed on out.
[1:44:24]
Engineering department is growing by
[1:44:26]
one. The public works department
[1:44:28]
promoted Aaron to the deputy director
[1:44:31]
role and they were on the hunt for a new
[1:44:33]
um engineering tech and we're able to
[1:44:36]
hire an intern who fun fact was actually
[1:44:38]
a seasonal employee in the parks
[1:44:39]
department for a while too and he is
[1:44:41]
finishing up his college degree down in
[1:44:43]
Platville right now. He was gone, but
[1:44:46]
he'll be coming back January part-time,
[1:44:48]
then full-time after graduation. So,
[1:44:51]
we're able to take our intern who has
[1:44:52]
shown improvement and welcome him
[1:44:54]
full-time to the city. So, that's a nice
[1:44:56]
win.
[1:44:58]
Um Walmart, just an FYI, um during the
[1:45:01]
open book process and most recently,
[1:45:03]
they their attorneys reach out to our
[1:45:04]
attorney. They plan on challenging their
[1:45:07]
assessment. That's nothing specific to
[1:45:10]
portage. This is what part of Walmart's
[1:45:12]
MO. they go around um and select some of
[1:45:16]
their stores to challenge their
[1:45:17]
assessment to lower their tax liability
[1:45:20]
and we're next up on the list. So, our
[1:45:23]
insurance has coverage should they
[1:45:24]
choose to continue to go forward um with
[1:45:27]
that process. So, just an FOI if it ever
[1:45:30]
hits um a a public channel.
[1:45:33]
Additionally, one thing we have our eyes
[1:45:35]
on as we start to look towards next year
[1:45:37]
are some new accessibility requirements
[1:45:40]
uh for public local government websites.
[1:45:44]
Our site is largely compliant, but we do
[1:45:46]
have work to go through to ensure we're
[1:45:48]
compliant. And then there's a large
[1:45:49]
amount of documents and images on our
[1:45:51]
website we have to go through and tag
[1:45:53]
and structure in specific ways to be
[1:45:55]
compliant. So that'll start to become a timeconsuming lift next year, but
[1:46:01]
we're aware of the requirement and we'll
[1:46:03]
start working on it in advance of April
[1:46:05]
28th because it'll just take time.
[1:46:08]
>> Would that be something that um you
[1:46:11]
could hire an intern to do?
[1:46:14]
>> Or attemp like
[1:46:15]
>> Yep.
[1:46:16]
>> It seems like a good winter project for
[1:46:19]
a college student.
[1:46:21]
>> Yeah, potentially if we fit in the 27
[1:46:23]
budget potential intern. Winter's
[1:46:25]
January.
[1:46:28]
» Oh, 27. That is 27. Dang. [laughter]
[1:46:33]
>> That's four months away. Yeah.
[1:46:38]
» That's my update for tonight.
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» Possible action, recruitment, selection,
[1:46:46]
and compensation for the position
[1:46:48]
director, including common council.
[1:46:52]
Sure.
[1:47:00]
So, um we're I've requested to go in
[1:47:02]
close session reg uh discussing our
[1:47:05]
finance director and her compensation
[1:47:07]
and uh future employment.
[1:47:12]
» All the person Bernie
[1:47:13]
>> move to go into close session pursuant
[1:47:15]
to Wisconsin state statutes 19.85 8 by
[1:47:18]
parent one parent C for considering
[1:47:20]
employment promotion compensation or
[1:47:22]
performance evaluation data of any
[1:47:24]
public employee over which the
[1:47:25]
governmental body has jurisdiction or
[1:47:27]
exercises responsibility finance
[1:47:30]
director.
[1:47:31]
All the person.