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[25:13] >> Chair Deshundra: if everyone

[25:18] please could find a seat.

[25:18] It is 2 o'clock tuesday,

[25:19] SEPTEMBER 1. Welcome back

[25:25] everyone.

[25:26] We are going to begin with a

[25:40] moment of silence.

[25:41] Thank you.

[25:44] I ask everyone

[25:44] , if you are

[26:01] able, please stand for the

[26:01] pledge of allegiance.

[26:02] >>> I pledge allegiance to the

[26:03] flag of the united states of

[26:04] america and to the republic for

[26:05] which it stands, one nation

[26:06] under GOD, indivisible, with

[26:10] liberty and justice for all.

[26:11] >> Chair Deshundra: before we

[26:12] get into the meat of the day I

[26:13] would like to go over

[26:14] procedural matters

[26:14] .

[26:16] We have a request to different

[26:19] discussion item 12.

[26:20] We also have a request differ

[26:21] to land use cases.

[26:26] One of them is 11 c and that is

[26:27] have adjusted dates and the

[26:27] other is 14 be and that is

[26:30] project industry that is a part

[26:31] of our 7 o'clock meeting

[26:33] .

[26:36] You get a motion to defer?

[26:37] >> I moved to defer those three

[26:38] items

[26:38] .

[26:39] >> Chair Deshundra: properly

[26:42] moved and seconded

[26:42] .

[26:43] >> Andrea Bailey: could you

[26:44] repeat again what you just

[26:44] said?

[26:47] >> Chair Deshundra: 11c which

[26:48] is savage estates under agency

[26:51] time.

[26:52] 12n which is discussion under

[26:55] supervisors time in 14 be.

[27:00] This is hot off the presses is

[27:01] project industry and that is a

[27:04] part of our 7 o'clock meeting.

[27:05] >> Andrea Bailey: disney

[27:05] declivity.

[27:08] Thank you MADAM Chair.

[27:32] >> Chair Deshundra:

[27:37] >> but unanimous

[27:37] .

[27:38] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you

[27:39] so very much.

[27:39] We are now going to move to

[27:40] agenda item for

[27:41] .

[27:42] And I get a motion to approve

[27:46] for a through c

[27:46] .

[27:47] >> Andrea Bailey: move for

[27:47] approval.

[27:48] >> Tom Gordy: second.

[27:49] >> Chair Deshundra: and has

[27:49] been properly moved and

[27:52] seconded.

[27:52] Any discussion?

[27:55] Seeing none, let's go ahead and

[28:12] take our votes.

[28:12] The

[28:18] >> vote unanimous

[28:19] .

[28:20] >> Chair Deshundra: we are now

[28:21] going to the fun part and that

[28:21] is commendations and

[28:22] proclamations.

[28:24] Can I get a motion to move five

[28:26] a through j forward?

[28:27] >> so moved.

[28:28] >> second

[28:29] .

[28:29] >> Chair Deshundra: any

[28:31] discussion?

[28:32] Let's go ahead and take our

[28:39] votes.

[28:43] >> vote unanimous

[28:44] .

[28:45] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you

[28:45] so very much.

[28:46] Before I go down to the dais,

[28:47] want to let people know because

[28:49] we have a large number of

[28:52] commendations and proclamations

[28:52] .

[28:53] We are going to hold all photos

[28:57] until the end

[28:57] .

[28:58] We will give it to you, say a

[28:59] few words.

[29:02] But I ask everyone remain

[29:02] seated so we could take photos

[29:05] at the end.

[29:06] There might be some members who

[29:07] want to come down for some of

[29:10] these

[29:10] .

[29:11] Not just at the podium but

[29:13] actual for the photos prefer

[29:19] the first one, we are going to

[29:20] give that one of the 7 o'clock.

[29:21] That is the principal boys

[29:22] soccer team.

[29:22] They are in school.

[29:24] We will

[29:30] let them stay there.

[29:31] Lisa, if you and your team

[29:59] could meet me at the podium.

[30:00] >> Chair Deshundra: to proclaim

[30:01] SEPTEMBER 2026 as recovery

[30:02] month.

[30:03] If anyone else wants to come

[30:06] down and join.

[30:10] SEPTEMBER is recovery month.

[30:11] This year's theme, recover

[30:12] israel restoring every aspect

[30:15] of life

[30:15] .

[30:16] Reminds us recovery is not

[30:17] simply about overcoming a

[30:21] challenge.

[30:22] It's about restoring

[30:23] relationships, health, purpose,

[30:24] stability and the many aspects

[30:27] of life that make us home.

[30:28] It is time to recognize family,

[30:29] friends, professionals,

[30:30] community organizations and

[30:31] individuals in recovery who

[30:37] make that journey possible.

[30:38] Would like to recognize

[30:39] principal and community

[30:40] services and community partners

[30:40] for their continued commitment

[30:41] of the work

[30:42] , including the

[30:43] recovery israel event on

[30:46] SEPTEMBER 16 update ajay for

[30:47] lazo building more community

[30:49] members and people in recovery

[30:50] will have an opportunity to

[30:51] share stories of resilience and

[30:52] hope.

[30:52] The message is simple but

[30:58] powerful changes possible,

[30:58] recovery is real, no one has to

[31:00] walk that journey alone pick on

[31:01] behalf of the board of

[31:02] supervisors, we probably

[31:05] proclaim SEPTEMBER 26 as a

[31:07] cover a month

[31:07] .

[31:10] Would you like to offer some

[31:11] remarks?

[31:18] >> thank you chair.

[31:19] I am behavior had program

[31:20] manager with prince william

[31:24] county community services this

[31:25] is our third annual recovery

[31:26] month event tonight thank you

[31:26] for

[31:27] allowing us to have a

[31:27] proclamation this year.

[31:30] I want to invite you to our

[31:31] event wednesday, SEPTEMBER 16

[31:32] at the for lazo building.

[31:33] Weave a dynamic speaker who is

[31:37] a local virginia native who is

[31:40] a poet and does spoken word and

[31:41] does speeches about his path to

[31:47] recovery in his life using

[31:48] substance in the path regaining

[31:51] his life and having a family

[31:52] .

[31:52] We also of other speakers.

[31:53] We are providing free lunch to

[31:56] everyone who attends so we hope

[31:56] everyone will make it

[31:57] wednesday,

[31:58] SEPTEMBER 16.

[32:02] Thank you.

[32:03] >> Chair Deshundra: I will give

[32:06] this to you for safe keeping.

[32:07] Thank you so much.

[32:09] Next is phyllis jennings holt.

[32:10] If you and your team want to

[32:11] come down for kinship care

[32:11] .

[32:12] And anyone else.

[32:16] Upervisor

[32:17] boddye, I don't know if you

[32:34] want to come down for this one?

[32:35] >> thank you MADAM Chair.

[32:36] Proclaim SEPTEMBER 26 as

[32:39] kinship care awareness month to

[32:42] recruit recognize SEPTEMBER as

[32:43] kinship care awareness month

[32:44] and we knowledge the extended

[32:51] family members who stepped

[32:52] forward to care for children

[32:52] when most needed.

[32:54] Across prince william county

[32:54] there 27 kinship families

[32:58] caring for 44 children in homes

[32:58] relative other than a parent

[32:59] serves as the head of household

[33:00] for every child deserves the

[33:01] opportunity to grow and learn

[33:02] in a safe supportive and loving

[33:03] home for kinship caregivers

[33:08] help make them possible while

[33:09] preserving the family

[33:10] connections I give children a

[33:11] sense of belonging and

[33:11] identity.

[33:23] Kinship care givers often step

[33:24] into the role unexpectedly but

[33:25] they do so because they believe

[33:26] in family giving children the

[33:27] opportunity to remain connected

[33:28] to the people, traditions,

[33:29] cultures and communities

[33:30] important to them.

[33:31] The principal them board of

[33:32] supervisors proudly proclaims

[33:32] SEPTEMBER 26 as kinship care

[33:34] awareness month.

[33:35] Spoke good afternoon madame

[33:37] george jefferson, vice chair

[33:38] angry and members of the board.

[33:40] Director of social services

[33:41] .

[33:47] Today with me and my team, van

[33:48] washington assistant director.

[33:51] Essica, assistant director:

[33:52] carolyn oliver acting program,

[33:55] and esa grant caseworker,

[33:57] candace human services

[34:02] caseworker

[34:02] .

[34:03] Also with a side of chrissy

[34:04] falls from the dss advisory

[34:07] board.

[34:08] Dss as part of the work done to

[34:09] keep our children safe with

[34:10] their families

[34:11] .

[34:14] When it isn't possible they do

[34:15] their best to make sure

[34:16] children can stay with

[34:21] relatives.

[34:22] Data shows children tended to

[34:23] better when they are able to

[34:26] live in the home of a relative

[34:27] if they are unable to be with

[34:30] their biological families are

[34:31] currently we have 27 kinship

[34:31] families providing care and

[34:32] support

[34:33] , which means there's 27

[34:39] or more less children in foster

[34:39] care.

[34:40] Kinship caregivers step forward

[34:40] with

[34:47] courage and compassion,

[34:47] provide stability during

[34:48] challenging times because staff

[34:49] and community partners work

[34:50] diligently to support families

[34:51] and strengthen community as a

[34:53] whole big thank you for

[34:53] recognizing the remarkable

[34:56] efforts on the caregivers,

[34:57] community partners and staff

[34:59] and continuing to champion the

[35:03] help and safety in prince

[35:04] william county.

[35:04] Thank you.

[35:22] >> Chair Deshundra: all right.

[35:23] Chief, if he could come down

[35:24] for national preparedness

[35:24] month.

[35:41] Today we recognize

[35:42] SEPTEMBER as national

[35:43] preparedness month and the

[35:44] importance of making to

[35:46] residents and businesses are

[35:47] ready when emergencies occur.

[35:48] Emergency preparedness is a

[35:51] shared responsibility.

[35:52] Every household a business

[35:53] should have a plan to be

[35:54] prepared to be self-sufficient

[35:56] for 72 hours following a major

[36:04] emergency or disaster.

[36:05] Through the rady principal them

[36:06] camping, or office of emergency

[36:07] management is encouraging

[36:08] residents and businesses to

[36:09] take simple but important

[36:09] steps.

[36:12] Build an emergency kit, make

[36:13] and practice an emergency plan,

[36:19] stay informed and learn

[36:19] lifesaving skills pick the

[36:20] SEPTEMBER I encourage everyone

[36:21] to take a few minutes to ask do

[36:22] I have a plan.

[36:24] Do I have the supplies I need?

[36:26] And do I know what to do when

[36:31] an emergency happens?

[36:32] Preparedness is more than

[36:33] protecting ourselves.

[36:33] A prepared community is a

[36:36] stronger and more resilient

[36:37] communities of the principal

[36:40] them board of supervisors

[36:41] proudly proclaims SEPTEMBER

[36:46] 2026 as national preparedness

[36:46] month.

[36:47] Ould you like to offer

[36:47] some remarks?

[36:54] >> thank you chair jefferson.

[36:55] I'm actually going to turn it

[36:58] to the emergency management

[37:01] coordinator brian meisner.

[37:02] The fire department is focused

[37:04] on response and resiliency

[37:04] .

[37:05] We get to do that with a lot of

[37:08] great folks

[37:09] , including the

[37:11] emergency management.

[37:12] >> thank you chief venture

[37:21] jefferson.

[37:22] Brian meisner the emergency

[37:23] management coordinator.

[37:24] A couple things we would like

[37:25] to remind the community of.

[37:26] First and foremost is to be

[37:27] practicing pillars of

[37:27] preparedness chair

[37:27] jefferson

[37:28] read with us for the

[37:29] proclamation.

[37:31] You can go to our website for

[37:32] the rady principal them can

[37:33] pain that has those colors of

[37:38] preparedness, which are making

[37:39] an emergency plan, building an

[37:40] emergency kit, staying

[37:41] informed, getting involved in

[37:44] your community, learning on

[37:45] lifesaving skill in knowing the

[37:45] threats and hazards in your

[37:46] neighborhood.

[37:48] We are going to be using

[37:49] preparedness month for three

[37:57] new things pick first on the

[37:58] one we are excited about is

[37:59] going to be a community

[38:00] engagement window for our flood

[38:00] resilience plan which is an

[38:06] effort underway in planning and

[38:08] the implementation is finally

[38:09] kicked off in 2020 60 that will

[38:11] be up here shortly.

[38:12] The second has an opportunity

[38:13] for community facing

[38:14] presentations.

[38:15] Whether that is for a house of

[38:16] worship or an hoa.

[38:18] Whether it be templates for

[38:21] folks to self deliver or have

[38:22] one hour folks go out and

[38:22] deliver that

[38:27] presentation, we

[38:27] are going to be in a position

[38:28] to start supporting those big

[38:29] last but not least we want to

[38:31] start encouraging neighbors to

[38:32] be thinking about how they can

[38:33] be helping their neighbors out

[38:35] pick those same pillars of

[38:36] preparedness are applied at the

[38:38] most local level, which for

[38:40] many of us is our neighborhoods

[38:40] .

[38:42] Back and look like it informal

[38:45] conversation about the unique

[38:47] skills

[38:47] , perhaps someone in

[38:50] skilled trades, someone else in

[38:52] healthcare, someone is a camper

[38:56] knows how to purify water.

[38:57] Start thinking about the

[38:59] collective skills you can use

[39:03] to help each other out if you

[39:04] should have a large emergency.

[39:05] When we have a robust public

[39:07] safety system in the county it

[39:08] could be overwhelmed and take a

[39:09] day or two to reach the whole

[39:11] community if we have feet of

[39:12] snow, lots of debris from a

[39:16] storm, etc. Really start

[39:17] thinking about how you can

[39:18] implement the steps with your

[39:18] neighbors.

[39:24] Thank you.

[39:25] >> stick around.

[39:26] We are taking photos later.

[39:28] Supervisor lacroix, if you can

[39:29] come down for this one

[39:38] ?

[39:46] If everyone associated

[39:46] .

[39:47] Of those associated want to

[39:50] come down or stay in the back,

[40:03] there is anyone else.

[40:04] 's proclamation AUGUST 2026 is

[40:05] spinal muscular atrophy month.

[40:08] Today we recognize spinal

[40:09] muscular atrophy awareness

[40:10] month on the individuals and

[40:12] families who are living with

[40:16] spinal muscular atrophy.

[40:19] Sma is a serious neuromuscular

[40:20] disease that affects physical

[40:29] strength and can impact a

[40:30] person's ability to walk, eat

[40:30] and breathe.

[40:30] For many

[40:31] years sma was a leading

[40:33] genetic cause of infant death.

[40:34] Advances in treatment and

[40:35] research if given many

[40:37] individuals with sma greater

[40:39] opportunities for longer,

[40:45] healthier lives.

[40:46] We recognize the importance of

[40:47] access to healthcare,

[40:50] caregiving services

[40:50] , equipment

[40:52] and public programs that allow

[40:56] individuals to live as

[40:56] independently and fully as

[40:58] possible.

[41:02] Organizations play an important

[41:03] role in advancing research,

[41:05] supporting families, promoting

[41:08] best practices in advocating

[41:08] for accessibility and

[41:13] disability rights.

[41:14] On behalf of the principal them

[41:15] board of supervisors we proudly

[41:18] acknowledge spinal muscular

[41:25] atrophy awareness month.

[41:30] >> I am cassie.

[41:30] Want to thank the board agreed

[41:34] to bring forth the proclamation

[41:35] .

[41:35] I'm glued to spinal atrophy my

[41:36] entire life.

[41:38] For people like me awareness is

[41:39] more than knowing the name of a

[41:44] disease

[41:44] .

[41:44] It is about being seen.

[41:45] It's about recognizing people

[41:46] disabilities belong in our

[41:49] schools, workplaces,

[41:51] communities and every table

[41:52] where decisions are made about

[41:52] us.

[41:55] 's proclamation MAY only be a

[41:57] piece of paper but what it

[42:00] represents to get rest of

[42:01] represents more.

[42:06] It tells people living with sma

[42:07] that our lives, voices and

[42:08] futures do matter.

[42:09] Thank you for seeing us

[42:09] ,

[42:12] recognizing us, and help make

[42:14] our voices be heard.

[42:23] [Applause]

[42:24] >> jeannie is going to give it

[42:25] to you for safekeeping.

[42:30] Supervisor stuart and everyone

[42:31] associated with disability

[42:32] voting rights we, please come

[42:52] on down.

[42:59] >> thank you MADAM Chair.

[43:00] Today we recognize of number 14

[43:01] to the 18th is disability

[43:03] voting rights week.

[43:04] Disability voting rights gives

[43:05] us an opportunity to raise

[43:08] awareness and barriers to

[43:09] voting recognize the importance

[43:10] of removing barriers wherever

[43:13] they exist.

[43:14] We also recognize the work of

[43:15] organization such as rev up,

[43:17] register, educate, vote

[43:17] , use

[43:24] your power

[43:24] .

[43:25] And the many disability

[43:26] advocates come election

[43:26] officials, community

[43:27] organizations and public

[43:28] agencies working to promote

[43:30] accessible and greater civic

[43:31] participation park in prince

[43:32] lynn county we are committed to

[43:38] fostering the inclusive

[43:39] community for people with

[43:40] disabilities can participate

[43:42] fully in civic life, engage

[43:43] with the local government and

[43:44] help shape the future of our

[43:47] community.

[43:48] On behalf of the board of

[43:49] supervisors we proudly

[43:50] proclaims SEPTEMBER 14-18

[43:50] ,

[43:55] 2026, is disability voting

[43:55] rights week.

[44:00] >> can everybody hear me all

[44:02] right?

[44:09] Good afternoon mehter for rev

[44:17] up virginia.

[44:18] Wanted to thank all of you for

[44:19] ensuring this proclamation is

[44:25] recognized by the vote.

[44:30] Many people falsely believe the

[44:31] power of the disability

[44:31] community only existed in the

[44:34] 90s where disability advocates

[44:37] fall to pass the 88 walking up

[44:40] the steps of the capital, many

[44:42] of whom could not walk.

[44:45] When congress passed the ada,

[44:46] this became the american

[44:49] disabilities act log russell

[44:49] and the guaranteed access for

[44:56] voting rights

[44:56] , education and

[44:57] all other public spaces here

[45:00] today, however, the disability

[45:01] community and our vote is alive

[45:04] and well.

[45:05] We are, according to some

[45:05] measurements, 22% of the

[45:10] american population and 28% of

[45:15] the american population

[45:15] .

[45:16] We are one in every four

[45:18] americans

[45:20] .

[45:23] Additionally we vote like

[45:27] everybody else in the 2022

[45:27] terms, the last time we

[45:30] received data we voted at the

[45:34] same rate as all other

[45:35] virginians.

[45:39] 53.1 percent.

[45:40] However, despite our vote being

[45:44] alive and well, congress and

[45:45] many other institutions ignore

[45:48] the disability vote despite the

[45:49] promise of accessibility for

[45:50] all government programs to

[45:56] congress under funds many of

[45:57] the provisions under the idea

[45:58] including education which

[45:59] places a burden on local county

[46:00] governments like yourself to

[46:03] fund the difference by

[46:06] supporting us today, you fight

[46:07] for prince william county's

[46:10] right to receive the funds from

[46:11] congress to ensure all disabled

[46:13] americans receive accessible

[46:15] services

[46:17] .

[46:21] Finally, I wanted to thank

[46:24] supervisor stuart meeting with

[46:25] region advocates

[46:26] .

[46:34] Rev up virginia is a statewide

[46:36] advocacy unit of organizations

[46:36] ,

[46:39] disability rights organizations

[46:41] and voting rights to protect

[46:45] the disability vote and to

[46:46] ensure we keep voting the same

[46:48] rate as everybody else and

[46:50] protecting our right to the

[46:51] ballot.

[46:55] Thank you so much and hope you

[47:05] have a wonderful day.

[47:06] And if I could on police chief

[47:06] and

[47:06] others associated with

[47:20] forensic science week.

[47:21] I knew the rest that you were

[47:22] coming.

[47:43] My cure comes back up.

[47:44] We are here to recognize

[47:44] SEPTEMBER 2020 success

[47:45] forensic

[47:52] science week.

[47:53] Forensic science professionals

[47:54] play an essential role

[47:55] examining evidence and

[47:55] providing

[47:56] objective scientific

[47:57] information to investigators,

[47:58] attorneys and the courts pick

[47:58] their work and help establish

[48:08] facts, identify individuals,

[48:09] connect evidence to cases and

[48:10] ultimately support unfair and

[48:11] effective justice system pick

[48:12] the prince william county

[48:13] police department is committed

[48:14] to using forensic science as a

[48:15] tool in investigating crime.

[48:16] The department works with

[48:17] local, state, and federal

[48:22] partners to build and maintain

[48:22] criminal databases involving

[48:23] dna, fingerprints and other

[48:25] forensic information.

[48:26] This week is an opportunity to

[48:33] recognize academic programs

[48:34] researchers, scientists and

[48:35] professionals who continue to

[48:36] advance the many disciplines

[48:36] that make up forensic science

[48:37] with the principal them board

[48:38] of supervisors by proclaim

[48:43] SEPTEMBER 20 through SEPTEMBER

[48:49] 26 as forensic science week.

[48:49] Would you or anyone else like

[48:53] to offer remarks?

[48:59] >> captain heather Mclean.

[49:00] Thank you for recognizing

[49:03] SEPTEMBER 20 as forensic

[49:08] services week

[49:08] .

[49:09] With me today are members of

[49:13] our forensic services section.

[49:14] Members of the unit is not only

[49:19] respond to crime scenes

[49:20] ,

[49:20] violent crimes.

[49:21] They investigate and evaluate

[49:22] and process evidence collected

[49:23] by patrol officers and

[49:23] detectives and submitted to

[49:26] them.

[49:27] In JULY alone our fingerprint

[49:29] technicians evaluate 1500

[49:32] latent fingerprints.

[49:33] Our photo lab provided

[49:35] photographs for 200 cases for

[49:38] prosecution.

[49:39] Rcs I process 49 cases of

[49:45] evidence on spin 240 hours on

[49:46] processing and the respondent a

[49:46] major crime scenes as well

[49:51] regard to forensic examiners

[49:52] analyzed 13 tb the evidence and

[49:56] that is just in one month ago

[49:57] members are scientists pick

[49:58] they work in their labs, they

[49:59] conduct their research and the

[50:00] best practices and they work

[50:03] tirelessly to link evidence to

[50:04] crimes to support successful

[50:10] prosecution thank you for

[50:11] recognizing their entire

[50:12] community

[50:18] .

[50:20] >> Chair Deshundra: a reminder

[50:20] we are going to be taking

[50:22] photos at the end.

[50:23] I have a couple of more love.

[50:28] I have three more left.

[50:29] Like for everyone associated

[50:30] with childhood cancer awareness

[50:40] to please step forward.

[50:40] >> thank you MADAM Chair.

[50:45] Us those involved make their

[50:45] way forward, I want to thank

[50:46] the chief of staff surge my

[50:48] colleagues corresponding

[50:51] offices for your compassion,

[50:58] collaboration pick many of you

[50:59] don't know, but chelsea is my

[50:59] chief of staff.

[51:00] And this little guy you see

[51:06] here is our beloved joshua who

[51:07] not only had cancer, fought it

[51:08] and beat it.

[51:08] Ain't that right, buddy?

[51:11] [Applause]

[51:12] Until they always that you

[51:13] truly don't know how something

[51:14] is going to impact you until it

[51:17] hits home.

[51:18] My staff are an extension of my

[51:19] family for and for a year and

[51:21] and a half chelsea and her

[51:22] family have gone through so

[51:25] much.

[51:26] I one acknowledged chelsea

[51:27] because she is a rock star

[51:29] supermom not only was she an

[51:33] advocate for her child

[51:34] , she was

[51:35] a researcher, she was a doctor,

[51:39] she was a nurse and a caregiver

[51:40] but through all of that she

[51:40] never once let anything in the

[51:42] office fall through the cracks.

[51:46] That is for you.

[51:47] So thank you for being

[51:52] steadfast in your faith.

[51:53] For representing our office

[51:56] with dignity throughout this

[52:01] entire ordeal into your

[52:02] colleagues and corresponding

[52:03] staff, thank you for your

[52:04] prayers throughout this

[52:06] difficult time.

[52:07] We recognize SEPTEMBER as

[52:07] childhood cancer awareness

[52:10] month.

[52:11] Time to honor children and

[52:12] families whose lives have been

[52:12] affected by cancer and

[52:14] recognize the growing number of

[52:15] young survivors who continue to

[52:16] face challenges long after

[52:19] treatment ends for families a

[52:20] childhood cancer diagnosis

[52:22] changes everything

[52:22] .

[52:23] It brings fear and uncertainty

[52:27] but it reveals extraordinary

[52:27] courage, resilience and

[52:28] strength.

[52:32] We recognize the parents

[52:33] ,

[52:34] siblings, caregivers, doctors,

[52:36] nurses, researchers and

[52:37] advocates who stand beside the

[52:37] children and families

[52:40] throughout their journey

[52:40] .

[52:43] We also want to extend

[52:44] recognition to those who

[52:47] continue to research into the

[52:47] causes of childhood cancer in

[52:49] the development of more

[52:50] effective treatments are

[52:52] essential so every child is a

[52:56] opportunity to grow up and live

[52:56] a long and healthy life.

[52:58] On behalf of the supervisors,

[53:02] we proudly proclaim some number

[53:03] 20 success childhood cancer

[53:05] awareness month let us raise

[53:05] awareness, support affected

[53:08] families, honor those we lost

[53:10] work toward a future where no

[53:13] child has to face cancer.

[53:28] Thank you.

[53:28] >> good afternoon.

[53:31] I want to echo everything said.

[53:32] I appreciate the love, prayers

[53:34] and support from each and every

[53:39] one of you all glass SEPTEMBER

[53:39] my family and I came for child

[53:41] cancer awareness month and

[53:48] joshua was in remission.

[53:49] We believe the hardest part of

[53:50] this battle was behind us pick

[53:51] three weeks later his cancer

[53:52] came back for the third time.

[53:55] Joshua had leukemia.

[53:55] One of the most aggressive

[53:58] cancers a child can face when

[53:59] he relapsed there was no second

[54:03] line treatment waiting for him

[54:04] we were in uncharted territory

[54:05] with few options and no

[54:06] guarantee any of them would

[54:06] work.

[54:10] And yet here he is

[54:10] .

[54:14] [Applause]

[54:14] The little boy standing beside

[54:18] me has endured more than most

[54:22] adults ever will.

[54:23] He is been told the treatment

[54:24] didn't work and face to relapse

[54:26] when there was no roadmap and

[54:27] he is undergone treatments that

[54:28] have never been used in this

[54:30] way for a child before pick in

[54:31] two days josh will have another

[54:35] scan pick last year taught me

[54:36] how quickly life can change but

[54:37] it taught me to appreciate what

[54:38] we have including sitting in

[54:40] traffic or any other minor

[54:41] inconvenience

[54:41] .

[54:43] It's nothing.

[54:44] There been moments in this

[54:48] journey when medicine had no

[54:49] answers in those moments my

[54:50] faith wasn't just the

[54:50] platitude.

[54:54] It wasn't attending I wasn't

[54:55] afraid or convincing myself

[54:56] everything would turn out the

[54:56] way it I wanted.

[54:57] It was knowing GOD was still

[55:01] GOD even when I couldn't see

[55:02] what came next and today josh

[55:03] is standing beside me and I

[55:04] thank GOD for that every single

[55:05] day but his story is also white

[55:05] we are

[55:07] doing here matters.

[55:08] His story is nothing short of a

[55:13] miracle.

[55:13] A few days ago a friend of

[55:14] ours, little boy named callan,

[55:15] passed away from the same

[55:19] cancer josh had.

[55:20] His loss is a heartbreaking

[55:21] reminder for too many childhood

[55:22] cancers but medicine is so much

[55:26] further to go so if you are

[55:27] wondering what you can do start

[55:28] by remembering our children

[55:29] beyond today's meeting.

[55:29] Pray for them, for their

[55:30] families, doctors and

[55:31] researchers working to give

[55:33] them another option.

[55:33] Go golden SEPTEMBER when

[55:35] someone asks you why, tell

[55:36] them.

[55:36] Support childhood cancer

[55:38] research.

[55:39] Give blood, joined the bone

[55:41] marrow transplant, support

[55:42] families whose lives have

[55:50] suddenly become hospital rooms,

[55:51] appointments and scans.

[55:52] Don't look away simply because

[55:52] childhood cancer is difficult

[55:53] to talk about.

[55:54] Awareness matters because

[55:54] awareness matters quickly sale

[55:57] the time that older and are our

[55:58] future and into days we will

[55:59] walk into another scan with

[56:01] confidence

[56:01] .

[56:02] I cannot control what it says

[56:03] but I know who carried us this

[56:04] far so we will pray we will

[56:10] walk in faith and be grateful

[56:10] of the tremendous gift of

[56:11] having josh here today.

[56:12] For talent, joshua and every

[56:15] child waiting for their

[56:16] miracle, thank you for making

[56:16] sure childhood cancer is not

[56:39] forgotten.

[56:40] >> Chair Deshundra: if everyone

[56:44] associated with item 5 I

[56:44] ,

[56:45] sickle cell awareness month,

[56:46] would you please come forward

[57:30] to.

[57:31] Spoon sickle cell disease is a

[57:35] chronic and deliberate dating

[57:36] condition that affects more

[57:37] than 100,000 americans

[57:37] .

[57:41] While they can affect people

[57:42] from any background that

[57:43] impacts individuals of african

[57:46] descent as well as people of

[57:47] hispanic, south asian, southern

[57:53] european and middle eastern

[57:54] ancestry.

[57:55] Awareness and early testing are

[57:55] important because individuals

[57:56] who carried the sickle cell

[57:59] trait MAY pass the disease on

[58:00] to the children.

[58:01] Knowing your sickle cell trait

[58:03] status can help individuals

[58:04] make informed decisions about

[58:08] their health and futures we

[58:09] want to highlight the critical

[58:11] need for blood donations many

[58:12] individuals living with sickle

[58:15] cell require blood transfusions

[58:20] to manage serious conditions

[58:20] .

[58:20] I am sorry.

[58:21] If we could cut the

[58:25] noise.

[58:30] Excuse me.

[58:33] We also want to highlight the

[58:34] critical need for blood

[58:41] donations many individuals

[58:42] require blood transfusions to

[58:43] manage serious complications

[58:44] work sometimes multiple times

[58:46] each year throughout their

[58:47] lives by donating blood can

[58:48] make a direct and meaningful

[58:49] difference for these patients,

[58:51] therefore today the board of

[58:54] supervisors by proclaim

[59:00] SEPTEMBER 2026 sickle cell

[59:00] awareness month.

[59:01] For greater awareness and

[59:04] community support we can help

[59:05] improve the lives of those

[59:08] affected by sickle cell disease

[59:08] .

[59:09] Would you like to offer

[59:14] remarks?

[59:15] >> good afternoon and thank you

[59:15] MADAM Chair.

[59:18] I would like to thank all of

[59:19] the board members supporting

[59:23] this big supervisor angry,

[59:27] boddye, stuart and bailey.

[59:30] As well as standing with me.

[59:34] And community partners

[59:34] .

[59:35] Northern virginia medical

[59:36] center, prince william county

[59:39] delta sigma sorority inc., top

[59:43] ladies and distinction, dale

[59:44] said he prince william county

[59:46] chapter and our dear friend

[59:48] joshua king

[59:53] .

[59:54] Sickle cell disease has

[59:56] impacted many families they

[59:58] live with it every day.

[59:59] Today we carry forward of our

[1:00:03] late niece who passed away from

[1:00:08] sickle cell disease in 2021 and

[1:00:09] or vision to support families,

[1:00:09] raise awareness,

[1:00:09] provide

[1:00:10] education resources,

[1:00:13] encouraging genetic testing and

[1:00:15] advocate for better care

[1:00:16] .

[1:00:20] prince wilden county virginia

[1:00:21] ranks in the top three

[1:00:22] jurisdictions in the state of

[1:00:23] virginia for sickle cell

[1:00:26] disease pick with the passage

[1:00:27] of the queen candace hope for

[1:00:28] sickle cell act, named in

[1:00:30] memory of the late 15-year-old

[1:00:35] candace king, a prince william

[1:00:36] county resident who died from

[1:00:37] complications of sickle cell

[1:00:39] disease, we ask prince william

[1:00:42] county to share awareness,

[1:00:43] messages sent to partner with

[1:00:45] the heart of gold to connect

[1:00:48] residents and families with

[1:00:50] information and resources

[1:00:51] recall of you received a gift

[1:00:54] back from us today that pretty

[1:00:59] purple bag

[1:00:59] .

[1:00:59] Both in english and spanish for

[1:01:00] the residents of prince william

[1:01:05] county

[1:01:05] .

[1:01:05] Together prince william county

[1:01:06] can be a model for what it

[1:01:11] means to not only raise

[1:01:11] awareness but take action,

[1:01:13] stand with sickle cell warriors

[1:01:14] and help change the future for

[1:01:16] generations to come

[1:01:19] .

[1:01:20] Thank you for your leadership

[1:01:21] in partnership and for this

[1:01:23] proclamation.

[1:01:28] [Applause]

[1:01:30] >> good afternoon.

[1:01:35] My name is joshua king pick up

[1:01:35] one of think the chair and

[1:01:36] board for giving me an

[1:01:39] opportunity to speak.

[1:01:40] On behalf of my wife it could

[1:01:41] not be here in my candace who

[1:01:42] passed away OCTOBER fourth of

[1:01:45] last year from sickle cell.

[1:01:48] I will be brief and say thank

[1:01:50] you guys for this proclamation

[1:01:52] thank you for the support

[1:01:56] you've given my wife and i

[1:01:56] candace birthdays this month on

[1:02:00] the 20th we are still

[1:02:03] struggling

[1:02:03] .

[1:02:08] We cry every day.

[1:02:09] Sickle cell is real and there

[1:02:13] are cures we need to do all we

[1:02:20] can to help and instead of my

[1:02:20] wife and I sitting in bed

[1:02:21] crying every day, we are out

[1:02:22] here standing with everyone

[1:02:24] else who needs help.

[1:02:25] Her daughter was a strong

[1:02:27] sickle cell warrior and we are

[1:02:30] doing it for her and us to get

[1:02:31] hurts every time we speak about

[1:02:35] this and stand up, but we know

[1:02:36] there is a cure and that we can

[1:02:36] do more

[1:02:36] .

[1:02:39] I want to thank the governor

[1:02:42] for passing the laws and

[1:02:42] everyone doing the work.

[1:02:44] But we are not there yet.

[1:02:49] We have a long way to go.

[1:02:50] Please come out on the 26.

[1:02:51] We will be at cogan high school

[1:02:55] doing a sickle cell awareness

[1:02:55] walk.

[1:02:56] Come out and support and help

[1:03:01] friends and learn something

[1:03:01] .

[1:03:01] That is all I have.

[1:03:02] Thank you for the time.

[1:03:03] Keep us in prayer.

[1:03:20] Thank you.

[1:03:22] >> Chair Deshundra: we will

[1:03:23] take photos everyone at the

[1:03:25] end.

[1:03:34] We have one more left.

[1:03:35] And people associated with

[1:03:36] junior league and find the good

[1:04:30] they can come down.

[1:04:34] We are proud to recognize find

[1:04:35] the good day, a celebration of

[1:04:37] kindness, compassion,

[1:04:38] volunteerism and the many

[1:04:45] positive things happening

[1:04:46] throughout our community.

[1:04:46] Observed SEPTEMBER 17, find the

[1:04:47] good day encourages each of us

[1:04:48] to pause and recognize the good

[1:04:56] around us pick whether it is a

[1:04:57] neighbor lending a helping

[1:04:58] hand, volunteer giving their

[1:04:59] time or someone simply taking a

[1:05:00] moment to make another person's

[1:05:01] day brighter.

[1:05:02] We are pleased to recognize the

[1:05:03] important work of the junior

[1:05:04] league of northern virginia

[1:05:07] which has a long-standing

[1:05:08] commitment to volunteerism

[1:05:09] empower women commit a violent

[1:05:10] community leadership, and

[1:05:11] creating full meaningful

[1:05:14] lasting change.

[1:05:15] The board of supervisors hereby

[1:05:20] proclaim SEPTEMBER 7 -- 17 is

[1:05:20] find a good day.

[1:05:20] Et's take

[1:05:22] the opportunity to recognize

[1:05:23] the good to come share the

[1:05:28] good, most importantly to be

[1:05:29] the good in our community.

[1:05:31] Someone like to offer some

[1:05:36] remarks?

[1:05:37] >> my name is karen kennedy and

[1:05:40] I'm the advocacy manager

[1:05:40] .

[1:05:41] We would like to thank the

[1:05:46] chair members of the board or

[1:05:46] honoring us with this

[1:05:50] proclamation and remind folks

[1:05:51] these times and especially now

[1:05:53] it is so important to look

[1:05:54] community and think of and do

[1:05:55] all the things we can delve

[1:05:56] each other.

[1:05:57] With that being said, I want to

[1:06:01] thank you on behalf of the

[1:06:02] northern virginia league

[1:06:03] .

[1:06:08] Thank you.

[1:06:09] >> Chair Deshundra: to my

[1:06:10] colleagues on the dais, we are

[1:06:11] going to take roughly 10

[1:06:16] minutes for recess

[1:06:16] .

[1:06:16] I say roughly because when we

[1:06:17] are done with the last picture

[1:13:39] recess.

[1:13:54] Graduations in retirement.

[1:13:55] >> Chair Deshundra: we love you

[1:13:58] too.

[1:13:59] We love you more.

[1:14:04] But I want to talk about is the

[1:14:07] neabsco greenway and completed.

[1:14:11] Because we are saying for well,

[1:14:12] we lost our great men, and

[1:14:15] parks director who we are going

[1:14:19] to give prince william county

[1:14:22] is happening down here.

[1:14:23] We built managers and city

[1:14:27] managers everywhere.

[1:14:28] He went on to be the city

[1:14:31] manager there.

[1:14:34] But he was able to get my

[1:14:35] greenway come extended for the

[1:14:38] 10 miles and some beta see that

[1:14:40] we been working on the since

[1:14:43] 2019.

[1:14:44] We still love steps to go but

[1:14:49] this is a great lead from when

[1:14:55] I think the team in their parks

[1:14:55] chief was there, chris shorter

[1:15:04] was there we represented down

[1:15:09] there to see our guy off pick

[1:15:09] him want to thank him and his

[1:15:10] team for pulling this last

[1:15:10] piece

[1:15:15] .

[1:15:17] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you.

[1:15:17] If we can go ahead and take our

[1:15:18] vote on those items

[1:15:29] .

[1:15:32] >> vote unanimous

[1:15:32] .

[1:15:33] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[1:15:35] boddye, you pulled off at 60

[1:15:37] and are who do you have any

[1:15:42] questions?

[1:15:43] >> Kenny Boddye: these are mou

[1:15:48] with potomac mills one is about

[1:15:49] the security cameras and images

[1:15:50] on the other is about a drone

[1:15:51] program.

[1:15:54] Wanted to ask the chief

[1:15:54] .

[1:16:03] MRS. Binet quickly evolving

[1:16:04] situation for both of the

[1:16:05] community but in the broader

[1:16:05] conversation around

[1:16:06] surveillance versus public

[1:16:06] safety.

[1:16:09] I wanted to call the chief up

[1:16:12] about some of these issues.

[1:16:14] I wanted to ask you first about

[1:16:19] 60 first.

[1:16:22] Can you explain what the

[1:16:24] sharing of the cameras and what

[1:16:28] have you and how it would be

[1:16:29] protected with the public

[1:16:33] safety benefit would be?

[1:16:35] >> I'm unusual for police

[1:16:35] .

[1:16:41] Thank you for those questions.

[1:16:42] Before I get begin 1 agree with

[1:16:43] supervisor angry that month is

[1:16:49] also my favorite chief.

[1:16:58] >> shots fired in the chambers.

[1:16:59] Spoke one of the things we have

[1:17:00] is an excellent relationship

[1:17:01] between the police department

[1:17:02] and fire department in one of

[1:17:05] those reasons is because on the

[1:17:06] 49 years of dedicated service

[1:17:07] by that person and so I wish

[1:17:11] him the best in his retirement.

[1:17:12] Supervisor boddye, on the

[1:17:17] digital images we are getting,

[1:17:17] these are only live real-time

[1:17:19] images from some of the cameras

[1:17:23] here GOD for bid we had an

[1:17:24] active violent situation.

[1:17:24] We would be able to tap into

[1:17:28] those for any historical camera

[1:17:33] images we would have to still

[1:17:34] go through the court process to

[1:17:35] get those images.

[1:17:39] >> Kenny Boddye: the video

[1:17:40] sharing relies on software.

[1:17:41] That the software platform

[1:17:41] include automated license plate

[1:17:42] recognition.

[1:17:45] If so, do they talk about that.

[1:17:46] And in talk about that balance?

[1:17:50] >> we don't have any facial

[1:17:58] recognition so no on that.

[1:18:00] We have automated license plate

[1:18:00] readers as you know.

[1:18:01] And they have been a topic of

[1:18:03] much discussion recently

[1:18:03] .

[1:18:04] You and I had a lengthy

[1:18:04] discussion.

[1:18:12] >> Kenny Boddye: moving to the

[1:18:13] drone pilot, would explain how

[1:18:13] these are used and why it was

[1:18:14] selected for the location of

[1:18:16] the pilot program?

[1:18:17] >> the drone as an enhancement

[1:18:18] to our current drone program.

[1:18:24] We have had drones in prince

[1:18:25] william county since 2020 one

[1:18:26] from the way we deploy the

[1:18:31] malice if it's an emergency

[1:18:32] someone has it in the vehicle

[1:18:33] and they drive to the scene.

[1:18:34] This gives us the ability to

[1:18:35] soon as the call is dispatched,

[1:18:38] it only has a 2 mile radius so

[1:18:39] this will be a pilot to see how

[1:18:45] effective it is

[1:18:46] .

[1:18:46] What the drone does is gets on

[1:18:47] the scene quickly and gives

[1:18:48] information to the police

[1:18:49] department and it could give

[1:18:51] information about what is going

[1:18:51] on.

[1:18:58] It would significantly improve

[1:18:59] officer safety is one of the

[1:19:00] valve is giving information to

[1:19:01] the first responders before

[1:19:04] they get there.

[1:19:05] As you know, a lot of other

[1:19:05] jurisdictions I'm gone as a

[1:19:06] first responder.

[1:19:12] We are a little bit late in the

[1:19:12] game.

[1:19:13] And the reason we selected it

[1:19:18] is because we looked at our

[1:19:18] crime and that area is a

[1:19:19] hotspot for crimes.

[1:19:20] >> Kenny Boddye: appreciate

[1:19:20] that.

[1:19:21] You talked about how it would

[1:19:22] be used.

[1:19:25] Can you talk about cases.

[1:19:26] are we talking about violent

[1:19:29] crimes

[1:19:29] .

[1:19:30] Would this be used for

[1:19:31] shoplifting calls, loitering,

[1:19:32] what type of cases would it be

[1:19:37] deployed in.

[1:19:38] >> virginia statute restricts

[1:19:39] the times we could use it and

[1:19:39] when we would be using the

[1:19:42] drones on it is only currently

[1:19:43] use them when it is an

[1:19:46] emergency situation.

[1:19:47] We could send it up in a

[1:19:47] traffic crash to give

[1:19:49] information to the public.

[1:19:49] We could use it as a missing

[1:19:57] person situation, but primarily

[1:19:58] it's for emergencies.

[1:19:59] >> Kenny Boddye: what is being

[1:20:00] done to protect residents

[1:20:01] privacy is drones fly to and

[1:20:01] from scenes?

[1:20:02] They get deployed

[1:20:02] , they fly

[1:20:02] back.

[1:20:06] Are they going to be recording

[1:20:07] to and from her only when they

[1:20:12] get to a scene?

[1:20:13] >> a lot of people learned the

[1:20:14] misimpression that the drones

[1:20:15] are taking images of the

[1:20:18] hallway and that's not true

[1:20:18] .

[1:20:19] The camera is not in the

[1:20:20] position to take images as it

[1:20:21] travels to and from the scene

[1:20:26] of an event.

[1:20:27] >> Kenny Boddye: my last one,

[1:20:27] thank you for your time.

[1:20:28] With the drones be using facial

[1:20:29] recognition or other ai driven

[1:20:29] software?

[1:20:31] >> they would not.

[1:20:32] MAY have a camera access

[1:20:38] information from the camera it

[1:20:39] would be restricted.

[1:20:40] It would be law enforcement

[1:20:41] sensitive and we only use it if

[1:20:44] we had a criminal case

[1:20:44] .

[1:20:45] >> Kenny Boddye: had one final

[1:20:46] question logistically for you.

[1:20:48] If we were to defer this drone

[1:20:49] mou but move forward of the

[1:20:54] other one, is there a time

[1:20:54] sensitivity to it, what have

[1:20:55] you?

[1:20:59] >> for us there is

[1:20:59] .

[1:21:00] Anything that improves officer

[1:21:03] safety I am reluctant to delay

[1:21:05] that.

[1:21:06] Let me give you one example of

[1:21:10] how it could make folks on the

[1:21:12] fireside safe as well

[1:21:13] .

[1:21:14] We get a number of spoof calls

[1:21:20] throughout the weeks when you

[1:21:21] have a:it's an emergency and

[1:21:22] some of the descriptions of

[1:21:23] people: and they say mass

[1:21:24] shooting in that, GOD forbid,

[1:21:26] could happen here

[1:21:26] .

[1:21:27] What we do is send the units

[1:21:33] out there

[1:21:33] .

[1:21:34] If you were able to get a drone

[1:21:35] and they were able to see from

[1:21:36] the scene that there was

[1:21:44] nothing going on, because lower

[1:21:44] unit down pick the most

[1:21:45] dangerous things police

[1:21:46] officers and firefighters do is

[1:21:49] drive an emergency status

[1:21:49] ticket is the reason most

[1:21:50] police officers get killed in

[1:21:51] the line of duty is in car

[1:21:52] crashes picked to be able to

[1:21:55] get a drone there.

[1:22:00] Answer your question, I would

[1:22:01] be reluctant to delay it up at

[1:22:05] all possible.

[1:22:06] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[1:22:07] vegas.

[1:22:07] >> Yesli Vega: thank you for

[1:22:08] being here.

[1:22:09] I also have those items I

[1:22:12] wanted to talk about

[1:22:23] .

[1:22:24] Supervisor boddye is almost

[1:22:24] asked all the questions I had

[1:22:25] and I want to be clear as

[1:22:26] someone connected to the world

[1:22:27] a law enforcement, I understand

[1:22:28] time is of the essence and when

[1:22:30] it comes to officer safety and

[1:22:30] ensuring we are keeping the

[1:22:31] public safe, certain tools are

[1:22:40] necessary

[1:22:40] .

[1:22:41] In order for officers to do

[1:22:42] their job.

[1:22:43] I want to be clear and on the

[1:22:43] record that I understand

[1:22:44] there's a legitimate concern

[1:22:45] about public safety is there

[1:22:46] are legitimate concerns about

[1:22:48] independent by the sea.

[1:22:49] As a body what we are trying to

[1:22:51] do is how do we answer the

[1:22:59] question in regards to

[1:22:59] government entities

[1:23:00] appropriately protecting both.

[1:23:01] And so with that being said,

[1:23:02] how does this impact for you?

[1:23:08] There is language that states

[1:23:08] footage will not be

[1:23:09] distributed.

[1:23:09] Can you walk us

[1:23:18] through that?

[1:23:19] >> generally because most of

[1:23:20] the information we obtained by

[1:23:21] way of video was related to a

[1:23:21] criminal case, it would be

[1:23:23] investigative in nature and

[1:23:23] that is one of the exceptions

[1:23:24] to a four-year request and that

[1:23:25] is why we would not provide

[1:23:32] that.

[1:23:33] >> Yesli Vega: for those here

[1:23:33] in chambers watching at home, a

[1:23:34] lot of questions came from our

[1:23:35] constituents and so we feel the

[1:23:36] need, the duty to ask those

[1:23:41] questions publicly.

[1:23:41] >> I am happy we are having

[1:23:42] this discussion.

[1:23:43] >> Yesli Vega: moving right

[1:23:44] along in regards to the drone

[1:23:48] request here, I want to say

[1:23:49] when it comes to leading,

[1:23:50] whether it's for these asks or

[1:23:53] how the department conducts

[1:23:54] itself, I don't say because I'm

[1:24:03] bias but when we look at what

[1:24:04] is transpired over the last

[1:24:04] four or five years, our

[1:24:05] department should be commended

[1:24:06] for always taking the lead to.

[1:24:07] Often times we see that things

[1:24:08] are taking place in a different

[1:24:11] manner across the nation.

[1:24:15] When it comes to the department

[1:24:16] think we are proactive rather

[1:24:17] than reactive and we set the

[1:24:19] standard.

[1:24:29] Can these be used to portray

[1:24:30] surveillance without an active

[1:24:30] call?

[1:24:31] >> no.

[1:24:31] >> Yesli Vega: how long is the

[1:24:32] footage retained and who can

[1:24:33] access or share in?

[1:24:34] >> it's 30 days

[1:24:34] .

[1:24:35] It is a very short window of

[1:24:40] time.

[1:24:40] >> in terms of who can access

[1:24:41] or share it?

[1:24:53] >> let me retract the drone

[1:24:53] footage answer.

[1:24:54] Retention is based off of the

[1:24:55] nature of what it captures.

[1:24:56] It's it if it is a criminal

[1:24:57] offense it would be continue to

[1:24:57] be in the system until the

[1:24:58] criminal case was disposed of.

[1:24:59] If it is a non-criminal event

[1:25:09] we would deleted after 30 days.

[1:25:10] And I missed your second

[1:25:10] question.

[1:25:11] >> Yesli Vega: who can access

[1:25:11] it or share it?

[1:25:12] >> the police department.

[1:25:13] >> Yesli Vega: can the drones

[1:25:14] integrate with other tractive

[1:25:15] technologies?

[1:25:15] >> they do not.

[1:25:16] >> Yesli Vega: those are all

[1:25:17] the questions I have.

[1:25:18] Thank you for your

[1:25:18] transparency.

[1:25:19] Really appreciate it.

[1:25:20] >> Chair Deshundra: this is

[1:25:23] been a real big issue with

[1:25:26] consist constituents and it's a

[1:25:30] brand and there is a lot I have

[1:25:30] learned.

[1:25:33] I went to the town hall could

[1:25:35] you address these issues

[1:25:35] .

[1:25:36] There is a lot that we need to

[1:25:37] talk about the differences

[1:25:43] between red light cameras and

[1:25:43] it is access and who has the

[1:25:47] authority to pick them up.

[1:25:48] Listen be a topic of a work

[1:25:54] session coming up making sure

[1:25:55] we have a work session around

[1:25:59] this so we are being

[1:26:00] transparent and big band to

[1:26:01] stay with the police department

[1:26:07] is doing and it gives everyone

[1:26:08] a chance to ask more in-depth

[1:26:08] questions and so with that,

[1:26:12] supervisor bailey?

[1:26:13] >> if I MAY, and I know you

[1:26:13] were at the town hall meeting.

[1:26:14] There is a couple of things I

[1:26:17] would like to say here if I

[1:26:18] could about the license plate

[1:26:25] readers think the statute is

[1:26:26] there a strict to begin with.

[1:26:27] Retention on license plate 20

[1:26:27] one days.

[1:26:32] There are criminal penalties

[1:26:32] for misuse.

[1:26:38] Washington post recently did a

[1:26:38] story about misuse across the

[1:26:39] country by law enforcement

[1:26:43] officers and what that was with

[1:26:43] a failure to audit.

[1:26:48] We audit our license plate hits

[1:26:49] every single day the caller

[1:26:53] officers have to be trained

[1:26:54] before they use it in the two

[1:26:55] trainings emphasizes that there

[1:26:58] is a criminal penalty for

[1:26:59] misuse any of teva criminal

[1:27:00] predicate before you enter a

[1:27:04] tag into the system.

[1:27:08] In policy is tight

[1:27:08] .

[1:27:13] The license plate readers are

[1:27:13] critical.

[1:27:18] In fact, we had 11 homicides in

[1:27:19] the county in eight of the

[1:27:20] homicides I simply reader

[1:27:22] information was extremely

[1:27:23] helpful ensuring those cases

[1:27:26] were closed.

[1:27:27] >> Chair Deshundra: I do want

[1:27:30] to address this.

[1:27:34] Information about our cameras

[1:27:34] in public knowledge we have a

[1:27:36] website, correct?

[1:27:40] >> will 28 cameras fixed and

[1:27:41] for that are mobile and those

[1:27:41] on the

[1:27:45] website.

[1:27:45] And we are being as transparent

[1:27:47] as we can

[1:27:52] .

[1:27:53] The policy here if a police

[1:27:56] officer was to misuse this data

[1:27:57] , they would be charged

[1:27:58] criminally and we make every

[1:27:59] effort to make sure they were

[1:28:03] removed from this department.

[1:28:04] >> Chair Deshundra: I want

[1:28:05] question about a camera out

[1:28:07] there

[1:28:08] .

[1:28:09] Not every surveillance camera

[1:28:09] is installed on their are

[1:28:18] private cameras out there.

[1:28:19] Split the license plate reader

[1:28:20] technology is available and so

[1:28:21] not every camera out there is a

[1:28:21] police camera.

[1:28:24] Our cameras on the 28 and the

[1:28:25] four that we have in the way

[1:28:27] that we deployed those cameras

[1:28:43] is based off of a crime.

[1:28:44] The way that we deploy them in

[1:28:45] the county right now if I'm not

[1:28:46] mistaken is nine in the western

[1:28:47] district, 10 in the eastern

[1:28:47] district.

[1:28:48] > Chair Deshundra: I quickly

[1:28:48] my last bit of time.

[1:28:49] For the once private, do they

[1:28:50] have access to that information

[1:28:52] was that information feed into

[1:28:52] your database.

[1:28:53] >> they don't have access.

[1:29:01] Our information is owned by us.

[1:29:02] We do have access to 10 private

[1:29:03] entities were we have access.

[1:29:05] They cannot get hours.

[1:29:06] >> Chair Deshundra: there are

[1:29:07] so many questions in this is

[1:29:13] such a hot topic.

[1:29:14] With that I will go to

[1:29:14] supervisor bailey.

[1:29:15] >> Andrea Bailey: thank you for

[1:29:16] the detailed question.

[1:29:17] I appreciate the in-depth

[1:29:23] questions saying you wanted to

[1:29:24] have this in terms of clarity.

[1:29:25] For clarity sake in terms of as

[1:29:46] we move forward with federal

[1:29:46] agencies.

[1:29:47] And you address that and

[1:29:47] explain to us what that looks

[1:29:54] like if for some reason that

[1:29:54] changes?

[1:29:55] >> I don't anticipate a change.

[1:30:01] Virginia assembly passed a

[1:30:02] statute a year ago JULY which

[1:30:03] restricted us from sharing your

[1:30:04] license plate reader data with

[1:30:08] federal agencies

[1:30:09] .

[1:30:10] That is our data so I don't

[1:30:10] think we could be compelled.

[1:30:14] I

[1:30:15] don't think that we could be

[1:30:19] compelled to share that data.

[1:30:20] >> Andrea Bailey: the type

[1:30:25] reviewed retained the

[1:30:25] information quick

[1:30:31] >> by statute is this 21 days.

[1:30:32] Spoke for the drone it is based

[1:30:34] off of the criminal in nature.

[1:30:48] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[1:30:50] stuart?

[1:30:51] >> George Stewart: when it

[1:30:56] comes to the private cameras,

[1:30:57] are there any private cameras

[1:30:57] that do not have the ability to

[1:31:01] tie into?

[1:31:03] >> this is privately owned

[1:31:04] cameras and homeowners

[1:31:10] associations the footprints of

[1:31:21] those 10 are generally within

[1:31:22] prince william county.

[1:31:23] >> George Stewart: are they

[1:31:23] subjected to the time period of

[1:31:24] data deletion

[1:31:29] ?

[1:31:30] >> reached out to the vendor

[1:31:31] because I think the retention

[1:31:38] schedule MAY be 30 days

[1:31:39] .

[1:31:40] We wouldn't be able to use

[1:31:40] anything past the 21 days pick

[1:31:41] if we were doing a search and

[1:31:42] it came off one of those

[1:31:46] private cameras

[1:31:46] , we couldn't

[1:31:47] use that information.

[1:31:48] And I think that the vendor is

[1:31:49] going to make within the

[1:31:50] commonwealth they're going to

[1:31:52] make it 21 days because of the

[1:31:55] statute.

[1:31:59] Lettuce my understanding

[1:32:00] .

[1:32:03] >> Andrea Bailey: I do.

[1:32:05] I have five hours left.

[1:32:09] I'm just kidding.

[1:32:10] What you're basically saying

[1:32:11] you have no control over those

[1:32:13] cameras you know control of

[1:32:25] that there are no statutes that

[1:32:26] restrict the ability of a

[1:32:27] privately owned entity to use

[1:32:28] this cameras in any way that

[1:32:32] they want.

[1:32:33] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you

[1:32:34] very much.

[1:32:35] There are no further questions.

[1:32:36] Do you want to move 60 and are

[1:32:36] forward quick

[1:32:41] >> I want to move 60.

[1:32:42] I would like to move it forward

[1:32:42] for

[1:32:43] approval.

[1:32:43] >> Chair Deshundra: is her

[1:32:53] second.

[1:32:54] >> Kenny Boddye: thank you for

[1:32:54] the conversation we had last

[1:32:57] week in your transparency

[1:32:59] answering our questions.

[1:32:59] We've two websites by the

[1:33:02] principal them website where it

[1:33:05] has the location and the

[1:33:06] specific transparency piece

[1:33:12] using the same platforms as

[1:33:14] these entities

[1:33:14] .

[1:33:16] I wanted to commend the chief

[1:33:17] and team as being transparent.

[1:33:24] That is not the case throughout

[1:33:24] the country

[1:33:25] necessarily.

[1:33:26] I know again that there's a lot

[1:33:27] I community concern around

[1:33:32] these cameras.

[1:33:33] Operated by the county as I

[1:33:34] wanted to highlight that

[1:33:34] as well

[1:33:38] .

[1:33:39] I'm comfortable with the mou

[1:33:40] between the police department

[1:33:41] the potomac mills to move

[1:33:42] forward.

[1:33:55] 's wanted to come in the chief

[1:33:57] again on that understanding

[1:34:03] .

[1:34:04] >> Chair Deshundra: there are

[1:34:05] no other comments a let's take

[1:34:35] our votes.

[1:34:36] >> Chair Deshundra: let's move

[1:34:37] to six are would you like to

[1:34:40] move that one forward.

[1:34:41] > Kenny Boddye: I hesitate.

[1:34:42] I understand the chief's dance

[1:34:49] on the safety of officers

[1:34:50] having the first responder be a

[1:34:50] drone but I would really love

[1:34:52] for us to have a more robust

[1:34:52] conversation.

[1:34:54] Perhaps in the context of the

[1:34:54] work session before we move

[1:34:55] forward but want to see what my

[1:34:55] colleagues have to say about

[1:34:58] it.

[1:34:59] >> Chair Deshundra: I prefer to

[1:35:13] have discussion motion.

[1:35:13] >> Yesli Vega: I'm supportive

[1:35:14] of this.

[1:35:15] It's not just a matter of

[1:35:15] officer safety when you talk

[1:35:17] about drone technology if you

[1:35:18] have a missing child, somebody

[1:35:19] of house autism for example or

[1:35:20] somebody part of the elderly

[1:35:20] committee and suffers from

[1:35:25] dementia because at earlier

[1:35:26] that you never know how

[1:35:27] something will impact you until

[1:35:28] it hits home and I think this

[1:35:32] is needed become satisfied of

[1:35:33] the framework provided in the

[1:35:34] safeguards that have been put

[1:35:36] in place in them a bit of

[1:35:37] further discussion work

[1:35:39] session, but for the reasons I

[1:35:46] will be supporting this today

[1:35:47] >> I second it

[1:35:48] nderstand the citizens and

[1:35:50] concerns but I was there on the

[1:35:57] side of caution.

[1:36:08] To help our police and I rather

[1:36:09] err on the side of putting this

[1:36:09] in place to prevent something

[1:36:10] from going on the missing

[1:36:10] opportunity

[1:36:11] something bad

[1:36:11] happens.

[1:36:15] I'm open for more discussion

[1:36:18] but for that I support this.

[1:36:24] >> supervisor bailey?

[1:36:25] >> Andrea Bailey: there is

[1:36:25] opportunity for us to talk to

[1:36:29] the community even more and to

[1:36:29] make sure that they have a

[1:36:33] sense of security.

[1:36:39] And think we do need to air on

[1:36:40] the side of caution to make

[1:36:41] sure that we are putting public

[1:36:44] safety employees in the best

[1:36:44] light forward to ensure that we

[1:36:47] are protecting them as well

[1:36:50] .

[1:36:51] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[1:36:51] lacroix?

[1:36:54] >> Jeannie LaCroix: I'm going

[1:36:56] to be supporting it and I think

[1:36:57] there needs to be a lot of

[1:37:02] guardrails

[1:37:03] .

[1:37:03] It can be used either way.

[1:37:04] I'm going to support it because

[1:37:07] I think her officers need to

[1:37:12] have the latest and greatest.

[1:37:13] >> Chair Deshundra: I'm going

[1:37:14] to say a few quick words.

[1:37:15] I understand the security

[1:37:15] issues

[1:37:16] .

[1:37:17] I understand people are nervous

[1:37:18] about the different types of

[1:37:20] surveillance out there

[1:37:20] .

[1:37:23] And the policies and the

[1:37:23] procedures

[1:37:30] .

[1:37:31] Is keeping them when men and

[1:37:34] women who chosen public service

[1:37:35] to keep our community safe and

[1:37:39] secure making sure we are not

[1:37:40] putting their lives at risk and

[1:37:56] they are using the technology

[1:37:57] that I would like to go ahead

[1:37:59] and call for the votes.

[1:38:16] >> but unanimous.

[1:38:21] Supervisors

[1:38:22] boddye and stewart abstaining

[1:38:23] from the vote.

[1:38:25] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you.

[1:38:27] We are now moving to six us

[1:38:29] .

[1:38:30] Supervisor vega.

[1:38:31] >> Yesli Vega: I'm going to

[1:38:34] direct my questions to eric on

[1:38:35] executive and this is in

[1:38:41] regards to the transferring

[1:38:41] request of $48,000 in the

[1:38:42] police department animal

[1:38:43] service bureau budget to

[1:38:44] provide additional funding for

[1:38:45] the expansion of the counties

[1:38:46] trump a new to vaccinate

[1:38:47] release program pick for the

[1:38:50] sake of consistency, we are not

[1:38:52] adding a new expense outside of

[1:39:07] the budget cycle.

[1:39:08] >> thank you for the question.

[1:39:09] The funding for the item is

[1:39:10] being reprogrammed funding.

[1:39:11] It is being reprogrammed.

[1:39:11] E

[1:39:13] are not going to art reserve to

[1:39:14] get the funding picket is

[1:39:19] coming is a report programming

[1:39:20] request.

[1:39:24] >> Yesli Vega: based on my

[1:39:25] readings, correct me if I am

[1:39:26] wrong

[1:39:27] , we are going to seek

[1:39:30] outside parties in order to

[1:39:39] take care of this request.

[1:39:40] >> as a reminder $48,000 is the

[1:39:40] curtain budget the animal

[1:39:41] services staff use for this

[1:39:42] program based on the directive

[1:39:48] from supervisor lacroix in

[1:39:49] JULY.

[1:39:49] We move forward to identify

[1:39:51] $48,000 from within the police

[1:39:54] department

[1:39:54] .

[1:39:55] If approved today we will be

[1:39:58] working with third-party

[1:39:59] organizations and nonprofits

[1:40:01] who service the community here

[1:40:04] in prince william county.

[1:40:07] This will be a grant program

[1:40:10] and am excited the police

[1:40:11] department worked so quickly we

[1:40:12] are.

[1:40:13] You plan to put out an

[1:40:14] announcement

[1:40:14] .

[1:40:20] If approved for us to push

[1:40:20] information to the community

[1:40:21] and hold an information session

[1:40:23] based on the request from

[1:40:27] supervisor lacroix

[1:40:27] .

[1:40:28] >> Yesli Vega: the last

[1:40:29] question I have because it is

[1:40:32] in the form of a grant and we

[1:40:34] are using third parties to help

[1:40:35] us solve an issue, what metrics

[1:40:37] or data are we going to have in

[1:40:43] place that lets us as a county

[1:40:44] know that the job is actually

[1:40:45] being taken care of.

[1:40:52] >> but we are planning to do

[1:40:52] where we will review which

[1:40:54] organizations ultimately apply

[1:40:54] ,

[1:40:56] or qualifications they

[1:41:00] currently have

[1:41:00] .

[1:41:01] We will make sure that they are

[1:41:04] registered as a nonprofit

[1:41:05] within the community.

[1:41:09] We will lend that process about

[1:41:10] the number of cats they served

[1:41:14] in the past and we will have

[1:41:15] reporting requirements

[1:41:17] .

[1:41:18] The one-year timeframe we would

[1:41:22] be requesting the organizations

[1:41:34] reports of what they've done I

[1:41:34] will be looking at the reports

[1:41:35] to make sure that the number of

[1:41:36] cats that they neutered is

[1:41:37] consistent with what they

[1:41:39] reported they would do

[1:41:39] .

[1:41:45] I would remind you on the board

[1:41:46] the because this is a grant and

[1:41:47] not a contract like once the

[1:41:48] grant funding goes out we would

[1:41:50] not be able to pull that grant

[1:41:54] funding back in.

[1:41:55] Once the money is approved and

[1:42:00] it goes out it will be granted

[1:42:01] and not people back into the

[1:42:05] government.

[1:42:10] >> understand when it comes to

[1:42:10] this.

[1:42:11] I asked for those on the county

[1:42:15] side to be vigilant ensuring

[1:42:16] these funds are adequately

[1:42:18] being used so we can address

[1:42:19] the issue we have and I will

[1:42:23] anxiously be waiting for those

[1:42:28] reports for granted not support

[1:42:29] the initial request but MR.

[1:42:31] Shorter provided answers to the

[1:42:32] questions and doubts and so i

[1:42:33] will be supporting this ask

[1:42:37] here today.

[1:42:38] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you

[1:42:39] so much.

[1:42:39] Supervisor lacroix?

[1:42:41] >> Jeannie LaCroix: thank you

[1:42:45] for supporting it today

[1:42:46] .

[1:42:46] We have a kitty emergency going

[1:42:50] on in prince william county.

[1:42:52] I want to mention that this is

[1:42:55] money we had for the because we

[1:42:58] did not use because of

[1:42:59] something going on with the

[1:43:08] animal shelter.

[1:43:09] It's really important to get

[1:43:09] this up.

[1:43:10] That is what chris has done for

[1:43:11] me is to make sure that we get

[1:43:12] the money out as quickly as

[1:43:18] possible so the people that is

[1:43:24] how they got the 48,000 to be a

[1:43:25] yearly amount that goes towards

[1:43:27] this program.

[1:43:28] We to get those people together

[1:43:29] and chris will speak more on

[1:43:34] this later but thank you for

[1:43:35] the questions on this is really

[1:43:39] important because we missed the

[1:43:45] meeting season

[1:43:45] , we do have a

[1:43:54] crisis on our hands.

[1:43:55] Make a motion not go forward.

[1:43:56] >> Chair Deshundra: were there

[1:44:05] any other questions?

[1:44:05] Or comments?

[1:44:06] >> Kenny Boddye: I have a

[1:44:06] question.

[1:44:07] >> Chair Deshundra: okay.

[1:44:08] You have a question.

[1:44:08] I ask we vacate the motion and

[1:44:10] the second

[1:44:10] .

[1:44:11] Supervisor boddye has a

[1:44:16] question

[1:44:16] .

[1:44:17] >> Kenny Boddye: thank you.

[1:44:18] It goes along the same vein of

[1:44:19] why supervisor vega was going

[1:44:20] .

[1:44:20] this is a reprogramming of

[1:44:26] funds and the funds we weren't

[1:44:26] able to allocate because of

[1:44:31] issues at the animal services

[1:44:32] for this year it is not a new

[1:44:33] expenditure.

[1:44:33] The only question is since we

[1:44:37] are setting up a program

[1:44:38] , when

[1:44:38] you talk about what it looks

[1:44:42] like and to the point that

[1:44:46] supervisor vega made the review

[1:44:46] criteria.

[1:44:47] It is going to be open for

[1:44:49] different folks to be awarded

[1:44:52] different money to come with

[1:44:55] outlook.

[1:44:56] >> I want to make two

[1:44:58] statements pick funding

[1:45:00] programmed for the purpose is

[1:45:03] no longer available.

[1:45:10] They would be closed for fy 25.

[1:45:12] Fy 26

[1:45:14] .

[1:45:20] He $48,000 animal services will

[1:45:21] be using is what is budgeted

[1:45:22] based on the approval for this

[1:45:26] year

[1:45:26] .

[1:45:27] The $48,000 being considered

[1:45:28] today would be $40,000 that the

[1:45:31] police department would've used

[1:45:36] but is being reprogrammed.

[1:45:36] For future years we would need

[1:45:42] to come back as part of the

[1:45:43] budget process to get the

[1:45:44] board's approval or

[1:45:48] consideration if the program

[1:45:49] outside about the police

[1:45:50] department does at the animal

[1:45:55] service center

[1:45:55] , we would need

[1:45:56] the board's green light to move

[1:45:57] this forward in a more

[1:45:59] permanent program

[1:45:59] .

[1:46:00] And for so for this year it is

[1:46:01] a grant program pick of the

[1:46:06] board requests and improved

[1:46:07] request to make the outside

[1:46:09] funding permanent

[1:46:09] , we would

[1:46:12] have time to put this in the

[1:46:13] form of a contract in of clear

[1:46:18] performance metrics

[1:46:19] .

[1:46:20] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[1:46:20] bailey?

[1:46:22] >> Andrea Bailey: I would like

[1:46:26] to have my turn

[1:46:26] .

[1:46:28] This is something in terms of

[1:46:35] continuity we did at the

[1:46:36] previous administration.

[1:46:36] And supervisor

[1:46:37] lacroix, good I.

[1:46:41] Like in baseball you caught it

[1:46:41] and brought it back and

[1:46:45] reprogrammed to the funding of

[1:46:47] the animal shelter, we talked

[1:46:52] about this for no other reason

[1:46:53] than as a reminder collectively

[1:46:59] on the board because we built a

[1:47:00] new animal shelter we have to

[1:47:01] put things that have not been

[1:47:02] put in place for a very long

[1:47:04] time.

[1:47:07] The question supervisor vega

[1:47:11] you mentioned about is is it

[1:47:12] new money or not is a very

[1:47:14] appropriate question

[1:47:14] .

[1:47:19] Is headed earlier, but we

[1:47:20] appreciate the reprogramming of

[1:47:20] the funding to let the

[1:47:23] community know we are not being

[1:47:28] over excessive.

[1:47:29] >> Chair Deshundra: I know a

[1:47:30] couple other people are in the

[1:47:33] queue

[1:47:33] .

[1:47:33] If we can keep our comments

[1:47:34] until we go back and do the

[1:47:35] motion.

[1:47:37] Did you have a question?

[1:47:42] You have a statement

[1:47:42] .

[1:47:43] I want everyone who has a

[1:47:44] question

[1:47:45] .

[1:47:49] if you have, let's go ahead and

[1:47:50] redo the motion so you can make

[1:47:53] a statement.

[1:47:54] >> Andrea Bailey: I do have a

[1:47:54] question.

[1:47:57] Is that okay?

[1:48:02] What I would like to ask is as

[1:48:03] we reprogrammed these funds

[1:48:06] will it be brought back.

[1:48:11] As we reprogram, we will be

[1:48:14] brought back in the budget

[1:48:14] cycle.

[1:48:15] Does one of us have to initiate

[1:48:19] that since it is reprogramming

[1:48:20] funds?

[1:48:24] >> we are hoping the

[1:48:25] application process

[1:48:25] , and I can

[1:48:29] explain this later for the

[1:48:31] benefit of supervisor lacroix

[1:48:31] .

[1:48:36] What we plan to do by

[1:48:37] mid-SEPTEMBER and started the

[1:48:38] application process and made

[1:48:43] some selections will bring

[1:48:44] those back to the board for the

[1:48:44] board

[1:48:45] awareness.

[1:48:47] The funds would be issued via

[1:48:58] grant to issue those funds by

[1:48:59] way of a grant.

[1:49:04] If the board decides is he

[1:49:09] program similar to this in

[1:49:10] addition to what the animal

[1:49:12] services center does by way of

[1:49:15] trap, neuter, vaccinate and

[1:49:17] release

[1:49:17] .

[1:49:21] The board would consider it

[1:49:22] along with the other budget

[1:49:26] proposals and if it becomes a

[1:49:30] permanent program we would work

[1:49:31] toward a more permanent

[1:49:32] contracting vehicle

[1:49:40] .

[1:49:41] >> I make a motion we move

[1:49:43] forward

[1:49:43] .

[1:49:49] >> second

[1:49:49] .

[1:49:50] >> Chair Deshundra: properly

[1:49:50] moved and seconded.

[1:49:51] Upervisor

[1:49:55] lacroix?

[1:49:56] >> Jeannie LaCroix: it's my

[1:49:58] understanding in the

[1:49:58] understanding of animal

[1:50:07] activists out there this is a

[1:50:08] program that it will be taken

[1:50:09] over completely and totally

[1:50:15] buyer animal shelter.

[1:50:16] We have had issues with the

[1:50:17] heating and air system or their

[1:50:21] system.

[1:50:22] .

[1:50:22] That is my understanding but

[1:50:24] until we get the we have people

[1:50:26] willing to help out for the

[1:50:27] time being.

[1:50:31] That is only one

[1:50:38] essay.

[1:50:39] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[1:50:40] boddye.

[1:50:40] >> Kenny Boddye: I wanted to

[1:50:41] thank supervisor lacroix.

[1:50:41] Nd

[1:50:42] jumping on the opportunity

[1:50:47] presented by the activists.

[1:50:48] We got a bout of emails and

[1:50:48] calls.

[1:50:49] Our employees to the animal

[1:50:50] advisory board are inundated.

[1:50:51] Wanted to thank you and commend

[1:51:07] you for that.

[1:51:08] And supplement what is offered

[1:51:13] as a standup of the clinic and

[1:51:14] the only reason I brought up

[1:51:15] the question as we have folks

[1:51:18] want to help the community and

[1:51:19] so not not close the door

[1:51:19] completely.

[1:51:20] Maybe down the line we figure

[1:51:25] out our vet clinic can't

[1:51:26] respond to the demand alone and

[1:51:27] be able to bring community

[1:51:28] partners doing great work

[1:51:28] .

[1:51:29] Again, we will be supporting

[1:51:32] this wholeheartedly and knowing

[1:51:34] we have an opportunity and

[1:51:35] subsequent use to supplement

[1:51:38] this with a program that looks

[1:51:43] at community as well.

[1:51:44] >> I want to say when we can

[1:51:45] leverage the volunteer

[1:51:46] community

[1:51:53] on something of this nature.

[1:51:54] It is something worth doing

[1:51:55] rather than trying to put this

[1:51:56] completely on the backs of the

[1:52:02] government officials when we

[1:52:03] have interested parties willing

[1:52:03] to step up and take on the

[1:52:11] challenge and do it.

[1:52:11] Government can sometimes

[1:52:20] provide the resources of the

[1:52:21] work that can be done hubby

[1:52:22] leverage more outside of the

[1:52:22] government within the

[1:52:23] community.

[1:52:26] Thank you for your leadership

[1:52:27] we have had many folks come

[1:52:27] and.

[1:52:30] >> Kenny Boddye: us and I live

[1:52:31] in knoxville

[1:52:33] .

[1:52:34] Coyotes take care of the cats

[1:52:36] out there

[1:52:37] .

[1:52:40] I'm just kidding.

[1:52:41] There is natural selection that

[1:52:45] takes place in some parts of

[1:52:46] the county that doesn't take

[1:52:47] place in other parts of the

[1:52:54] county.

[1:52:55] It's a problem that needs to be

[1:53:00] addressed looking at a

[1:53:01] community solution is the right

[1:53:04] way to go and I appreciate the

[1:53:09] work that is been done.

[1:53:10] >> Chair Deshundra: you know

[1:53:11] how much I love cats.

[1:53:14] >> any dog people out there?

[1:53:15] >> Chair Deshundra: let's move

[1:53:16] on

[1:53:16] .

[1:53:17] I would like to call for the

[1:53:29] vote.

[1:53:30] >> Chair Deshundra: let's go to

[1:53:33] public comment time

[1:53:34] .

[1:53:34] For those of you if this is

[1:53:35] your first time speaking I will

[1:53:36] call people up in groups of

[1:53:38] five

[1:53:38] .

[1:53:43] He will go to the back.

[1:53:44] You will do minutes to speak on

[1:53:45] any item you are choosing pick

[1:53:46] up the back screen is a timer.

[1:53:47] Please watch it.

[1:53:53] I ask that everyone begin by

[1:53:54] stating your name and where you

[1:53:56] reside.

[1:53:57] I don't need your address

[1:53:58] unless you want to give it

[1:53:58] .

[1:54:08] But where you the manchester

[1:54:08] adjuster to where you reside.

[1:54:09] First I will call up john

[1:54:10] payne, chris brown, keith

[1:54:18] snyder, sunny kofi.

[1:54:19] Going to call up six people

[1:54:19] because I only have six.

[1:54:23] Kimberly and melanie if each of

[1:54:30] you can go to the bank.

[1:54:31] Start by saying your name in

[1:54:32] magisterial district where you

[1:54:32] reside.

[1:54:40] You MAY begin.

[1:54:43] >> adopted noon.

[1:54:48] My name is john payne.

[1:54:48] I live in the coles district

[1:54:49] only jackson drive.

[1:54:50] I've been a resident for 40

[1:54:52] years and I've been a resident

[1:54:58] all my life I wanted is your

[1:54:59] history with you with respect

[1:55:01] to what I'm asking when I came

[1:55:05] back from college in 74, the

[1:55:08] town of manassas was crippled

[1:55:13] by economic decline

[1:55:14] .

[1:55:14] My father was on the city

[1:55:15] council and he and I worked on

[1:55:16] the idea of creating a historic

[1:55:17] district and I did a lotto leg

[1:55:20] work creating a historic

[1:55:24] district of manassas

[1:55:24] .

[1:55:25] it was not popular but it paid

[1:55:26] its fruits today and you can

[1:55:30] see what happened because of

[1:55:31] the preservation of some of the

[1:55:34] properties.

[1:55:36] There is one gentleman who was

[1:55:39] a historian vicki said I don't

[1:55:40] know why you're doing this

[1:55:41] because everything worth saving

[1:55:44] is gone

[1:55:44] .

[1:55:45] I don't want that to be the

[1:55:48] case my father was a city

[1:55:51] COUNCILMAN Responsible for

[1:55:56] location of the manassas

[1:55:57] airport instrumental in

[1:56:00] beginning like manassas on that

[1:56:01] counsel spent money in a way

[1:56:03] fully visioned in the future

[1:56:08] they understood the need and

[1:56:09] our accounting as a result of

[1:56:10] that.

[1:56:14] Was a resident there were 1800

[1:56:14] people.

[1:56:18] I think there were 190,000+

[1:56:28] that have manassas as an area.

[1:56:28] As we go down the parkway there

[1:56:33] are two barns that been saved

[1:56:33] and asked you what would to

[1:56:35] silos be without the barn

[1:56:39] .

[1:56:40] My request is he reconsider the

[1:56:41] task of looking up bennett

[1:56:44] school

[1:56:44] .

[1:56:45] When I was taught as an

[1:56:50] architect, you never drew more

[1:56:51] in the morning they did you

[1:56:52] could raise in the afternoon

[1:56:53] this is an opportunity to look

[1:56:57] up what its importance this to

[1:57:02] the residence and the culture

[1:57:03] of prince william county.

[1:57:03] A lotta people of talked about

[1:57:07] the with previous speeches.

[1:57:10] I was present when it took

[1:57:17] place at the school and I think

[1:57:18] the architectural character can

[1:57:19] be incorporated into the new

[1:57:20] courthouse so if someone was

[1:57:23] asking direction they would not

[1:57:24] see the big building that down

[1:57:25] there.

[1:57:28] Looks think education epic part

[1:57:30] of the courthouse.

[1:57:35] Thank you very much.

[1:57:36] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you.

[1:57:49] Next speaker, please.

[1:57:50] >> my speech is stuck in the

[1:57:51] computer so I will read it from

[1:57:54] here

[1:57:54] .

[1:57:55] I've come to speak about the

[1:58:09] proposed lodges proposed for

[1:58:09] the corner of tarp and then 55

[1:58:17] in gainesville

[1:58:17] .

[1:58:18] My reasons opposing the project

[1:58:21] are twofold.

[1:58:22] The first of which is the

[1:58:23] traffic it will bring to my

[1:58:27] neighborhood we are to have the

[1:58:28] congestion caused by the

[1:58:31] construction across the street

[1:58:31] .

[1:58:34] If this is approved we would

[1:58:37] have a will more traffic.

[1:58:37] Who up to contend with the

[1:58:39] daily truck traffic by the

[1:58:39] warehouse.

[1:58:44] Across the street

[1:58:44] .

[1:58:45] >> Chair Deshundra: hold on.

[1:58:46] E are actually going to have

[1:58:52] a public hearing on the topic

[1:58:52] vicki will have a chance to

[1:58:53] speak in the public hearing

[1:58:55] rather than public comment time

[1:58:56] .

[1:58:56] During the public hearing same

[1:59:02] rules, but better captures your

[1:59:03] comments on there might be

[1:59:07] other people speaking about

[1:59:07] particular issues I wanted to

[1:59:08] give you the opportunity to

[1:59:18] speak then.

[1:59:19] >> you don't want me to finish.

[1:59:20] >> Chair Deshundra: you can but

[1:59:21] it would be better for you to

[1:59:21] speak in the public hearing.

[1:59:22] >> is that hours from now?

[1:59:23] Be when it is next on the

[1:59:24] agenda we will see if we have

[1:59:25] anyone virtual and then we go

[1:59:29] to the public hearing.

[1:59:32] It's not going to take forever.

[1:59:35] >> will be the second speaker

[1:59:35] quick.

[1:59:36] >> Chair Deshundra: keith, are

[1:59:37] you also here for that or what

[1:59:42] are you here for?

[1:59:43] >> I'm here to request we start

[1:59:44] looking at sanitizing data

[1:59:46] centers

[1:59:46] .

[1:59:47] >> Chair Deshundra: go on.

[1:59:48] State your name and where you

[1:59:51] reside.

[1:59:52] >> and we use the overhead

[1:59:52] projector?

[1:59:56] >> Chair Deshundra: you can.

[1:59:57] It is going to take us a

[2:00:11] minute.

[2:00:15] >> my name is stevie.

[2:00:16] I live in the gainesville

[2:00:20] district.

[2:00:21] With no proactive measures in

[2:00:22] place

[2:00:26] , ai pornography will do

[2:00:31] our datacenter to man

[2:00:31] .

[2:00:38] And answer exists.

[2:00:39] This is the official federal

[2:00:41] standards for disposing of data

[2:00:46] storage media.

[2:00:50] Members of the board, we have

[2:00:51] 300 datacenter is constructed

[2:00:51] in our state that are without

[2:00:52] power.

[2:00:57] Not sure how much tax revenue

[2:00:57] those are generating.

[2:00:58] We allowed the clearcutting of

[2:00:59] our forests and destruction of

[2:01:03] watersheds to build monuments

[2:01:07] to grid failure and for what.

[2:01:08] If you analyze the server

[2:01:09] demand driving this endless

[2:01:10] expansion, you will find it is

[2:01:11] bloated by the hoarding of

[2:01:13] illicit

[2:01:13] , degrading and illegal

[2:01:17] content

[2:01:17] .

[2:01:18] We are sacrificing our

[2:01:19] commonwealth to act as a

[2:01:21] digital landfill think it's

[2:01:25] time to serve the scrub clean

[2:01:34] and digital waste before we

[2:01:35] think about approving another

[2:01:39] permit to poor mass of hot

[2:01:39] footprint on our beloved

[2:01:42] virginia to grieve a choice but

[2:01:43] to protect the dignity and

[2:01:46] integrity of this land or be

[2:01:47] the architects of a disposable

[2:01:50] planet

[2:01:50] .

[2:01:53] We the people are pleading to

[2:01:59] elected officials everywhere.

[2:02:00] Please clean up the data

[2:02:00] centers and stop cutting down

[2:02:07] the cherry trees.

[2:02:08] Thank you.

[2:02:09] I found the guidelines for

[2:02:09] media sanitization in last 24

[2:02:13] hours

[2:02:13] .

[2:02:13] I thought it was encouraging

[2:02:17] that to be creative

[2:02:17] .

[2:02:18] It is quite enlightening to

[2:02:23] find that exists.

[2:02:29] Their processes

[2:02:29] .

[2:02:29] It is something that hasn't

[2:02:30] been implemented because nobody

[2:02:31] demanded it to be proactively

[2:02:34] implemented.

[2:02:37] This would really help a lot of

[2:02:38] things take place with a lot

[2:02:41] more sanity.

[2:02:41] Thank you.

[2:02:46] We can do this.

[2:02:47] Our name is prince will im for

[2:02:47] a reason.

[2:02:47] Thank you.

[2:02:50] Will im, will we

[2:02:59] are.

[2:03:01] >> Chair Deshundra: next

[2:03:21] speaker, please.

[2:03:22] could you put the timer back

[2:03:22] on?

[2:03:23] My name is doctor kimberly.

[2:03:27] I am a resident of gainesville.

[2:03:28] Last time I was here and I

[2:03:28] spoke to you all I told you

[2:03:33] about how their systematic

[2:03:33] violation occurring in prince

[2:03:36] william county virginia m. I

[2:03:36] didn't hear back from anyone of

[2:03:37] you.

[2:03:42] Not one of you I heard

[2:03:43] back from and that's

[2:03:44] interesting because I told you

[2:03:44] about how there was a

[2:03:46] whistleblower teacher contacted

[2:03:53] me on my cell phone saying they

[2:03:54] are violating so much laws your

[2:03:55] daughter civil rights are being

[2:03:56] violated and they're trying to

[2:03:59] sweep it under the rug.

[2:03:59] My speech, one of them went

[2:04:04] viral with 5 million views

[2:04:04] .

[2:04:05] And thankfully there are audio

[2:04:06] recordings being posted for

[2:04:08] anybody who wants to hear the

[2:04:09] audio recordings go to insured

[2:04:12] of help on costs.

[2:04:13] The other interesting thing

[2:04:15] happened that even though I

[2:04:17] didn't hear back from you, I

[2:04:18] did hear back from other

[2:04:21] whistleblower teachers procure

[2:04:28] is an email dated MAY 26.

[2:04:29] You MAY want to dig into all of

[2:04:30] the complaints including eye

[2:04:31] level administrative people who

[2:04:32] left because of the unethical

[2:04:34] and illegal practices in

[2:04:35] schools and central offices

[2:04:35] would estimate in the hundreds

[2:04:36] of

[2:04:36] people.

[2:04:41] This person emailed again but

[2:04:42] they said they would only hire

[2:04:43] young people who people who say

[2:04:48] what they are told even though

[2:04:49] it is unethical and illegal and

[2:04:52] not right for kids.

[2:04:53] submitted a request.

[2:04:54] You talked about transparency.

[2:04:55] I paid over $1000 this

[2:04:56] whistleblower told me what to

[2:04:59] ask for your internal documents

[2:05:00] pick people talking about

[2:05:03] restraint of disabled kids,

[2:05:05] disk termination, seclusion,

[2:05:05] very serious civil rights

[2:05:09] violations to get paid over

[2:05:10] $1000 and it is still being

[2:05:11] withheld

[2:05:11] .

[2:05:14] I have to go to court to try to

[2:05:15] get it.

[2:05:17] I'm asking for the federal

[2:05:20] government to investigate this

[2:05:21] school district board for what

[2:05:25] they are allowing because it is

[2:05:26] a civil rights abuse like no

[2:05:27] other we have seen.

[2:05:28] I ask you to put this up here

[2:05:31] because we also talked about

[2:05:31] money.

[2:05:32] You are quibbling over how to

[2:05:36] spend 3 to 5 grand piglets look

[2:05:37] at the invoices of what your

[2:05:38] school district, mind you I

[2:05:41] mentioned that wade anderson

[2:05:41] ,

[2:05:42] former employee.

[2:05:43] Let's see what he is paying

[2:05:43] for.

[2:05:45] And here is one invoice for

[2:05:52] $55,000 in one month.

[2:05:53] Is another one for 37,000.

[2:05:54] Is another one for $99,000 a

[2:05:57] month figure is another one for

[2:05:59] $34,000 in one month that goes

[2:06:01] on and on and on.

[2:06:02] What else do they have.

[2:06:03] You're paying for these

[2:06:07] attorneys to eat and stay at a

[2:06:13] residence in that's where our

[2:06:14] tax dollars are going.

[2:06:15] The level of fraud, corruption,

[2:06:18] abuse of our funds is

[2:06:19] astronomical and if you don't

[2:06:19] do anything musky for the

[2:06:21] federal government to

[2:06:22] investigate because it is

[2:06:29] disgusting.

[2:06:31] >> Chair Deshundra: I want to

[2:06:32] acknowledge we don't have the

[2:06:32] authority to investigate the

[2:06:35] school board.

[2:06:36] They are a separately elected

[2:06:37] body you are still welcome to

[2:06:38] come and speak.

[2:06:42] Next speaker, please.

[2:06:46] >> my name is sonny.

[2:06:52] I'm in the burnsville district.

[2:06:53] I am here to talk about senate

[2:07:02] bill sb 45 the past the

[2:07:04] legislature and it involves the

[2:07:09] implementation of the

[2:07:09] comprehensive plan

[2:07:10] .

[2:07:14] It says to all the next is will

[2:07:16] a subsequent comprehensive

[2:07:21] plans and the opportunities are

[2:07:22] there to identify environmental

[2:07:27] justice in communities.

[2:07:30] That's it.

[2:07:34] Thank you for your time.

[2:07:37] >> thank you very much.

[2:07:43] Next speaker, please.

[2:07:44] >> my name is melody.

[2:07:46] I've spoken a billion times

[2:07:46] .

[2:07:47] I wanted to take a quick

[2:07:53] moment.

[2:07:54] And since all of you enjoy an

[2:07:55] email and I appreciate you guys

[2:07:56] bringing some of the questions

[2:08:03] forward

[2:08:03] .

[2:08:04] I do want to state as a first

[2:08:05] responder I do actually support

[2:08:06] the underlying public safety

[2:08:06] intent but I read the actual

[2:08:09] mou and I had really grave

[2:08:14] concerns

[2:08:14] .

[2:08:15] If it is not written, it's not

[2:08:15] real.

[2:08:16] You can say whatever you want

[2:08:17] in the form like the chief of

[2:08:19] police said we don't do them.

[2:08:24] Not we can do that or we

[2:08:26] haven't done that, not we can't

[2:08:27] do that.

[2:08:28] There are wordings that worry

[2:08:32] me because it's a really broad

[2:08:33] road you can drive a lot of

[2:08:37] trucks through there.

[2:08:40] Before we implement the pilots

[2:08:40] and finalize some of this

[2:08:47] stuff, everybody in the room

[2:08:48] has heard ben franklin say

[2:08:49] those who sacrifice liberty for

[2:08:52] safety deserve neither liberty

[2:08:53] or safety.

[2:08:56] Public safety is a valid

[2:08:57] concern but so is the right to

[2:09:01] privacy weeks was the right to

[2:09:02] move around this county doing

[2:09:06] whatever you want to do within

[2:09:07] the boundaries of the law and

[2:09:08] not be observed for somebody

[2:09:11] else to judge those actions.

[2:09:12] The other thing I want to point

[2:09:14] out someone who works with

[2:09:14] facial recognition fairly

[2:09:18] regularly

[2:09:19] .

[2:09:19] Because you don't in your

[2:09:22] contract of access to all the

[2:09:23] data the cameras collect, there

[2:09:26] are many companies and this has

[2:09:32] borne out nationally.

[2:09:33] What they sell to you is not

[2:09:34] often the sum total of what

[2:09:37] their devices actually collect.

[2:09:38] Just because principal them

[2:09:45] doesn't have access

[2:09:46] , if they

[2:09:46] contract to a company where

[2:09:47] their devices are capable of

[2:09:48] facial recognition they MAY be

[2:09:50] collecting facial recognition

[2:09:51] and you were not paying for it.

[2:09:52] That your point, there are

[2:09:53] plenty of facial recognition

[2:09:54] things going on but the

[2:09:58] argument everybody is doing it

[2:09:59] is juvenile and I think that we

[2:10:06] can do better.

[2:10:07] Would recommend or I would

[2:10:08] respectfully ask the board hold

[2:10:09] public comment sessions before

[2:10:09] we start rolling this out

[2:10:12] permanently

[2:10:12] .

[2:10:13] I would ask you amend some of

[2:10:14] these to narrow what

[2:10:15] circumstances are defined as a.

[2:10:17] Emergency means a lot of things

[2:10:19] to a lot of different people

[2:10:20] there big laws about what

[2:10:24] public rights those have.

[2:10:28] I would ask you require some

[2:10:29] level of independently review

[2:10:31] of how these programs are used

[2:10:38] in put public notice and

[2:10:39] signage at the mall with

[2:10:39] deletion policies publicly

[2:10:39] posted.

[2:10:41] I would ask you to establish it

[2:10:44] complaint process

[2:10:44] .

[2:10:45] I have plenty more to say so

[2:10:46] thank you so much for your

[2:10:46] time.

[2:10:51] I appreciate it.

[2:10:52] >> Chair Deshundra: we are

[2:10:53] going to move to remote public

[2:10:53] comment time.

[2:10:57] To be have anyone?

[2:10:58] >> I have a list of 10 but do

[2:10:58] we have any online?

[2:11:01] >> we do not have anybody on

[2:11:05] line.

[2:11:07] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you

[2:11:10] so very much.

[2:11:15] We are now moving to agenda

[2:11:16] item number eight practices

[2:11:17] including consolidated land use

[2:11:20] cases.

[2:11:24] Before I move on, I want to see

[2:11:25] if anyone had anything that

[2:11:26] they wanted to pull her public

[2:11:29] hearings under agenda item

[2:11:30] number eight

[2:11:39] .

[2:11:43] If it is for purposes.

[2:11:48] I'm going to do public hearings

[2:11:49] .

[2:11:50] If it is for purposes of you

[2:11:51] wanting to vote something down,

[2:11:54] we can get to that.

[2:11:55] But I see that you are in the

[2:11:56] queue so what did you have,

[2:11:56] supervisor stewart?

[2:12:02] >> George Stewart: for item 8f

[2:12:03] wanted to make clear it is

[2:12:04] going to be the proper

[2:12:08] statement dated 1/SEPTEMBER and

[2:12:10] a copy has been provided to

[2:12:21] everyone here on the dais and I

[2:12:22] ask the applicant include two

[2:12:23] proffers as it relates to

[2:12:24] landscaping that is on the

[2:12:24] second and third page proffer

[2:12:28] three a and b. Three a is the

[2:12:29] applicant will coordinate for

[2:12:31] supplemental plantings within

[2:12:32] the buffer of the adjacent

[2:12:35] school property.

[2:12:36] Coordination will be with the

[2:12:38] county arborist prior to the

[2:12:39] final site plan approval.

[2:12:45] And

[2:12:46] three become the applicant

[2:12:47] committed to included plant

[2:12:48] species identified through

[2:12:48] hollow ground living legacy

[2:12:52] treeplanting as permitted by

[2:12:53] the county and the buffers

[2:12:54] along arpin road and john

[2:12:59] marshall highway

[2:12:59] .

[2:13:00] I also wanted to make it clear

[2:13:01] the county would not be

[2:13:03] responsible to fulfill any of

[2:13:08] the proffer obligations

[2:13:08] .

[2:13:09] >> Andrea Bailey: I would like

[2:13:15] to pull item 8n.

[2:13:16] >> Chair Deshundra: what I'm

[2:13:17] going to do is I'm going to go

[2:13:18] ahead and open the public

[2:13:18] hearing for item eight a

[2:13:22] through 8m.

[2:13:24] And we had a gentlemen who was

[2:13:27] speaking earlier and he said he

[2:13:28] could come back to the

[2:13:35] microphone.

[2:13:36] I believe it is MR. Chris

[2:13:37] brown.

[2:13:41] i will let you go first MR.

[2:13:41] Chris brown.

[2:13:47] I have melody miller that you

[2:13:48] would like to speak on three of

[2:13:52] the items

[2:13:52] .

[2:13:57] You can go to the back.

[2:13:57] It is arpin.

[2:14:01] There you go pick start with

[2:14:02] saying your name and where you

[2:14:08] reside.

[2:14:09] >> this is take two.

[2:14:10] Chris brown, gainesville

[2:14:15] district.

[2:14:17] I am opposed to this truck

[2:14:23] terminal for several reasons.

[2:14:24] The first of which the traffic

[2:14:25] it will bring to my

[2:14:27] neighborhood.

[2:14:28] Weirded the congestion caused

[2:14:29] by the data construction across

[2:14:35] the street to get this is

[2:14:36] approved we would have a more

[2:14:36] more traffic.

[2:14:37] Once the project is finished we

[2:14:38] would have to contend with the

[2:14:39] truck traffic caused by this

[2:14:42] warehouse back across the

[2:14:43] street they have refused to

[2:14:45] honor the proffers they

[2:14:46] promised five years ago

[2:14:46] including a traffic light

[2:14:46] ,

[2:14:52] turning lane

[2:14:52] , sidewalks and

[2:14:53] landscaping.

[2:14:53] Because the county failed to

[2:14:55] enforce these proffers, it's

[2:14:58] unconscionable for the county

[2:15:01] to consider adding more traffic

[2:15:02] to an already congested area

[2:15:08] with this warehouse project.

[2:15:09] In addition there is a loss of

[2:15:10] 23 green forested acres in the

[2:15:11] ecosystem that exists for the

[2:15:12] developers along with the

[2:15:13] planning commission and

[2:15:14] possibly the board of

[2:15:18] supervisors seemed determined

[2:15:22] .

[2:15:23] and developers should choose a

[2:15:24] vacant industrial site in the

[2:15:29] county for the project

[2:15:29] .

[2:15:30] We would not have to rely on

[2:15:31] ugly wind and solar farms to

[2:15:41] fight climate change directly

[2:15:43] across from the site years ago

[2:15:49] we lost 103 acres of forest to

[2:15:50] what is now the hyper school

[2:15:53] datacenter in virginia

[2:15:53] .

[2:15:54] This 103 acres generate enough

[2:15:57] heat on a summer day to fry an

[2:15:59] egg.

[2:15:59] There's no truth the site must

[2:16:03] be developed with something

[2:16:11] that is the least worse

[2:16:12] alternative in these 23 acres

[2:16:13] are best left in haiti.

[2:16:14] Please do the right thing and

[2:16:14] vote against this project.

[2:16:15] Thank you.

[2:16:16] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you

[2:16:19] so very much.

[2:16:20] Melody, I know that you want

[2:16:21] three things to speak on.

[2:16:24] Will give you your three

[2:16:24] minutes for 8/81.

[2:16:25] Although we know who you are,

[2:16:29] state your name pick

[2:16:32] >> and I actually ask because

[2:16:35] they are both on vacating trees

[2:16:36] picket is a general statement

[2:16:41] on the effect of the.

[2:16:41] Can you combine those two?

[2:16:42] Am trying to make this short

[2:16:42] .

[2:16:49] >> Chair Deshundra: I thought

[2:16:49] it would be cleaner to give you

[2:16:50] discrete, but you can take for

[2:16:51] the three items you have you

[2:16:54] can take you nine minutes.

[2:16:55] Spoke I wanted to speak on a,

[2:17:03] becoming g: f, k. It sexually

[2:17:06] e, f and g.

[2:17:07] >> Chair Deshundra: you want to

[2:17:07] do five items?

[2:17:08] Seven.

[2:17:12] >> can we combine them?

[2:17:13] >> Chair Deshundra: hold on

[2:17:15] .

[2:17:20] I will combine everything

[2:17:20] .

[2:17:24] That will be up to 21 minutes.

[2:17:38] >> I will be quicker.

[2:17:44] >> thank you melody.

[2:17:45] >> my name is melody miller

[2:17:47] from neabsco.

[2:17:49] The first time is a and the

[2:17:52] which is the tree vacation.

[2:17:59] The high level that means

[2:18:00] actions but the devitis

[2:18:01] represent a fundamental

[2:18:02] question about whether we honor

[2:18:06] the commitments the public

[2:18:06] sacrifice them.

[2:18:07] Let me remind everybody the

[2:18:08] land we are talking about was

[2:18:09] supposed to be a proffer

[2:18:10] agreement for the linear park.

[2:18:14] That dedication stated it was

[2:18:15] the intent that existing

[2:18:18] non-native invasive vegetation

[2:18:22] will remain undisturbed in any

[2:18:23] construction would minimize the

[2:18:24] amount of impact of the tca and

[2:18:26] avoid removal the maximum

[2:18:27] amount visible.

[2:18:30] .

[2:18:31] Malan is dedicated for uses

[2:18:33] open space conservation and are

[2:18:34] passive recreation is only.

[2:18:38] That was the deal to protect

[2:18:39] trees in exchange for the

[2:18:44] development we are not honoring

[2:18:45] proffers and that we are being

[2:18:46] asked to vacate that her

[2:18:47] protected tree conservation

[2:18:52] area to serve private, not

[2:18:53] public utilities for the

[2:18:54] infrastructure datacenter this

[2:18:56] developer is been different a

[2:18:57] couple of times supervisor

[2:19:04] gordy noted it requested time

[2:19:05] to address community feedback.

[2:19:05] He project is over dependably

[2:19:10] while they work to address

[2:19:11] concerns but we are not seeing

[2:19:11] options that don't result in

[2:19:12] the developers financial

[2:19:16] interest in the loss of tree

[2:19:17] canopy to the citizens of the

[2:19:18] impact of the watershed is not

[2:19:21] in the county interest

[2:19:21] .

[2:19:25] All possibilities should be

[2:19:26] explored before we vacate the

[2:19:29] conservation area pick I'm not

[2:19:34] a post-it development.

[2:19:35] Am opposed to using public

[2:19:36] assets without adequate

[2:19:36] mitigation.

[2:19:40] Staff reports report that no

[2:19:41] cost to be incurred beyond

[2:19:42] staff time to execute the deed,

[2:19:44] but lack accounting direct

[2:19:46] expenditures does not mean a

[2:19:47] lack of public cost.

[2:19:48] Those two things are not the

[2:19:51] same.

[2:19:52] The cost there is significant.

[2:19:54] The armor moving tree canopy on

[2:20:06] public parkland.

[2:20:07] Over 72% are impaired.

[2:20:10] Of the 93 assessed waterways 68

[2:20:11] of them fail state standards

[2:20:14] .

[2:20:14] Stream flows or monitoring

[2:20:18] sites

[2:20:22] , as if quantico was 31%

[2:20:22] and salinity levels are

[2:20:26] steadily rising and so every

[2:20:27] tree we remove makes that

[2:20:30] worse.

[2:20:31] They trap pollutants and they

[2:20:33] slow runoff for the first thing

[2:20:35] I would ask is I would say

[2:20:38] explore the alternative routing

[2:20:39] that avoids negating it

[2:20:45] entirely the proffer requires

[2:20:46] them and remove avoidable

[2:20:47] maximum but we have not

[2:20:49] exhausted all the alternatives

[2:20:49] pick I would ask the board

[2:20:50] condition the approval on 2 to

[2:20:55] 3 times the tree canopy to

[2:20:56] compensate for what is removed

[2:20:59] if you decide to approve this

[2:21:00] for 2 to 1 ratio is reasonable

[2:21:04] but the us forestry service in

[2:21:10] most urban arborists will savor

[2:21:11] every 40 foot canopy tree you

[2:21:15] need 260 92 inch caliber trees

[2:21:19] to get the same effect pick 2

[2:21:23] to 1 is reasonable at that

[2:21:24] level because he will not get

[2:21:25] the same effect but you would

[2:21:27] make a good-faith effort sort

[2:21:33] of becoming a bigger tree

[2:21:33] replacement ratio it

[2:21:37] acknowledges that picket think

[2:21:38] it is important that we insist

[2:21:39] much more firmly replacement

[2:21:45] trees and not just the actual

[2:21:48] physical count.

[2:21:53] When damaging the watershed

[2:21:53] .

[2:21:54] I would urge the board to do a

[2:21:57] deeper exploration viable

[2:21:58] alternatives and if not

[2:21:59] impossible the adoption of the

[2:22:01] minimum of 2/1 replacement

[2:22:05] ratio.

[2:22:05] The county is not going hasn't

[2:22:10] done in county but I would like

[2:22:11] to remind the board that growth

[2:22:12] for the sake of growth is the

[2:22:14] ideology of the cancer cell

[2:22:15] think you guys.

[2:22:19] That was my a and b

[2:22:20] .

[2:22:20] If we can move to e, f and g

[2:22:24] which is the pro-lodges

[2:22:24] .

[2:22:26] I'm trying my best to go fast

[2:22:27] .

[2:22:32] Understand the appeal pick we

[2:22:34] had a lot of talk about the

[2:22:38] density and so we had the

[2:22:39] ground a lot of decisions in a

[2:22:40] reality that exist pick

[2:22:44] reclassifying 24 acres to

[2:22:45] accommodate heavy logistics

[2:22:49] facility is in my opinion a

[2:22:52] profound planning mistake in of

[2:22:53] violations of the county

[2:22:58] environment plan which the

[2:22:58] county staff explicitly

[2:22:59] confirmed in their report.

[2:23:04] Through the requests explicitly

[2:23:08] and profoundly violate not one,

[2:23:08] not two but eight of the

[2:23:11] categories addressed

[2:23:16] .

[2:23:17] Undermine the hot policies of

[2:23:20] forestry source as well as our

[2:23:21] actions on tree preservation

[2:23:22] stormwater management of stream

[2:23:22] restoration

[2:23:39] .

[2:23:40] If this is approved the board

[2:23:40] would be responsible for

[2:23:41] greenlight incoming

[2:23:42] irreversible ecological damage

[2:23:44] to the bull run watershed.

[2:23:52] The applicant plans on 100%

[2:23:52] clearcutting.

[2:23:53] Removing all four identified

[2:23:57] specimen trees and destroying

[2:23:58] the critical habitat for the

[2:23:59] tricolored and northern long

[2:24:00] eared bat pick one of which is

[2:24:01] endangered and one is on the

[2:24:01] list.

[2:24:03] It will remove the

[2:24:06] currently functional water

[2:24:07] reclamation and filtration

[2:24:09] resource pick there are no

[2:24:13] replacement measures that come

[2:24:13] close.

[2:24:17] The project would eliminate 1.3

[2:24:18] acres of mapped wetlands with

[2:24:20] 2200 linear feet from a

[2:24:31] hydrological -- sonata

[2:24:32] hydrologist but add water

[2:24:33] wetlands and streams regulate

[2:24:34] streamflow come in they trump

[2:24:34] sediments and transform

[2:24:35] nutrients such as nitrogen and

[2:24:36] phosphorus replacing natural

[2:24:44] buffers with 15.6., 16 acres

[2:24:45] and shift the entire essay from

[2:24:45] a high of the ideological

[2:24:46] sponge into an accelerated

[2:24:50] runoff generator.

[2:24:50] Pavement doesn't absorb water

[2:24:51] and it doesn't absorb

[2:24:52] pollutants which you will get

[2:24:56] from logistics think we are

[2:24:57] going to lose 24 acres and we

[2:25:00] would replace it with 15 acres

[2:25:06] of asphalt and roofing.

[2:25:07] This contradicts our energy and

[2:25:08] sustainability master plan.

[2:25:09] Stormwater chambers can't

[2:25:14] replicate think they can't

[2:25:15] replicate sequestration and

[2:25:16] they do not provide groundwater

[2:25:17] recharge provided by the

[2:25:23] current natural forested

[2:25:23] wetlands.

[2:25:24] They can clean the water which

[2:25:25] leads to an increase in water

[2:25:26] treatment cost that they can't

[2:25:27] replenish existing ecological

[2:25:32] systems for vacant clean the

[2:25:33] particulates the site would

[2:25:36] generate and so the citizens

[2:25:37] are going to suffer a market

[2:25:42] degradation in air quality.

[2:25:43] Also we are going to shift the

[2:25:45] long-term environment accosts

[2:25:46] from a private developer done

[2:25:47] at the prince william county

[2:25:53] taxpayers the property contains

[2:25:54] soils classify was severe

[2:25:57] irritability stripping soils

[2:25:57] heightens the risk of

[2:26:00] downstream sediment patient

[2:26:01] which threatens the occoquan

[2:26:03] reservoir we taxpayers will

[2:26:07] absorb flood mitigation which

[2:26:08] the developer is going to offer

[2:26:12] you 1700 bucks in water

[2:26:13] quality.

[2:26:17] I don't know if you know this

[2:26:17] ,

[2:26:18] but the operational current

[2:26:23] cost runs $10-$35,000 a linear

[2:26:30] foot and so I am not sure where

[2:26:31] except that's what it will cost

[2:26:35] for them to print the invoice.

[2:26:36] Again, prince william county

[2:26:42] router rights are impaired on

[2:26:43] the salinity levels on the

[2:26:47] reservoir is steadily rising.

[2:26:48] Every single tree we take out

[2:26:53] just makes this worse.

[2:26:54] if you get away from the

[2:26:55] environment you will go and

[2:27:02] introduce heavy freight traffic

[2:27:03] right next to the two schools

[2:27:03] over there and so you're going

[2:27:04] to put safety hazards and

[2:27:05] diesel admissions under great

[2:27:07] air quality wiki would create

[2:27:08] traffic hazards between every

[2:27:20] freight haulers in school bus

[2:27:21] routing because that is not

[2:27:21] rated for that.

[2:27:22] New morning arrival and

[2:27:23] afternoon dismissal periods you

[2:27:24] will sanction clearcutting the

[2:27:25] trees that would clean all of

[2:27:26] that so the kids would be

[2:27:26] breathing it on fire station

[2:27:27] for this there in gainesville

[2:27:31] at max capacity

[2:27:31] .

[2:27:32] I don't know if you know this

[2:27:33] but heavy truck incidents

[2:27:36] require specialized skills and

[2:27:36] first responders and it takes a

[2:27:39] little bit longer to train them

[2:27:44] in some proffers are not even

[2:27:45] touching the true cost of what

[2:27:50] that looks like a. That's going

[2:27:51] to be shifted entirely to the

[2:27:55] taxpayers and citizens pick we

[2:27:56] don't have to choose between a

[2:27:57] vacant lot and heavy industrial

[2:27:59] destruction.

[2:28:00] Under the designations of land

[2:28:01] is intended to serve as a

[2:28:05] transition between iron density

[2:28:06] uses and environmental

[2:28:08] resources.

[2:28:10] Have lower impact alternatives

[2:28:16] that do not require rezoning

[2:28:17] this pic I'm not in favor of

[2:28:18] clearcutting at all, but there

[2:28:19] are other alternatives let it

[2:28:21] integrate that aquatic

[2:28:25] resources and open space that

[2:28:26] would be far better for the

[2:28:30] county residents here.

[2:28:31] What I would ask the board to

[2:28:32] do in these particular items

[2:28:36] it's offered the incentives

[2:28:36] directing heavy logistics

[2:28:38] facility to pre-existing

[2:28:39] degraded invest industrial

[2:28:43] sites would encourage the

[2:28:50] development which we could use

[2:28:51] without stripping the

[2:28:55] environmental resources that we

[2:28:55] need to.

[2:28:56] We need to build the climate

[2:29:01] resilience.

[2:29:02] If you want to be

[2:29:03] environmentally terrified look

[2:29:07] up the effects of a super ni?O

[2:29:07] pic but I do urge you to uphold

[2:29:08] the integrity of prince william

[2:29:10] county and deny these requests

[2:29:11] or offer significant

[2:29:15] alternatives

[2:29:15] .

[2:29:16] Thank you for your time on that

[2:29:19] one

[2:29:19] .

[2:29:20] Could you set the timer to six

[2:29:22] and I will do the last one.

[2:29:35] Rather than stop in the middle.

[2:29:41] My name is melody miller picked

[2:29:42] this one is about 8j and k

[2:29:42] which is the rezoning

[2:29:44] .

[2:29:47] This is the data center campus

[2:29:51] .

[2:29:53] When you are reading this you

[2:29:53] know I speak against data

[2:29:54] centers this represents a

[2:29:57] critical failure and it

[2:30:01] violates the spirit and the

[2:30:01] letter of our energy and

[2:30:03] sustainability master plan.

[2:30:04] We are being asked to sacrifice

[2:30:08] stability for short-term pic I

[2:30:11] want to focus on the two major

[2:30:14] areas for the project fills our

[2:30:17] community pick the first is the

[2:30:18] burden and the second is the

[2:30:20] irreversible destruction this

[2:30:24] will engender.

[2:30:29] 200 mw facility demands 1.7 5

[2:30:33] million mwh annually

[2:30:33] .

[2:30:34] original grid operator has

[2:30:36] already issued warnings about

[2:30:43] capacity shortage in strain and

[2:30:44] the regulatory commission is

[2:30:45] owed them to overhaul its rules

[2:30:49] of massive large load customers

[2:30:50] must secure their own power

[2:30:50] supply or fund dedicated

[2:30:51] generation before connecting to

[2:30:52] the grid

[2:30:52] .

[2:30:55] Those rules have not changed

[2:30:56] yet and would not apply to this

[2:30:57] development.

[2:31:03] Those guys and this person is

[2:31:04] proposing to add a massive

[2:31:09] unrelenting to the systems and

[2:31:10] so this also contradicts

[2:31:15] strategy one which sets a

[2:31:16] transition to 92% clean energy

[2:31:17] and 50% reduction in greenhouse

[2:31:17] gases by 23.

[2:31:22] You cannot approve facility of

[2:31:23] the scale powered by fossil

[2:31:24] fuel relying grid energy and

[2:31:24] diesel generators and still

[2:31:29] claim you are working toward

[2:31:30] our stated climate goals pic

[2:31:31] and neutralizes the county

[2:31:37] mitigation efforts the massive

[2:31:38] transmission upgrades: cost.

[2:31:39] As I stated earlier, the

[2:31:45] citizens should not be forced

[2:31:46] to fund this when it is a

[2:31:47] private developer and the

[2:31:47] prophets are there.

[2:31:48] In the

[2:31:52] immortal words of billy MAY

[2:31:53] speak equally devastating to us

[2:31:56] is the destruction of our local

[2:31:57] environment.

[2:32:00] Talked about watershed and air

[2:32:01] quality a lot.

[2:32:03] The applicant's request the

[2:32:04] mandatory 50 foot environmental

[2:32:09] buffers to a mere 10 feet pick

[2:32:10] the biggest offer was 30 feet

[2:32:11] is absolutely unacceptable

[2:32:11] able.

[2:32:14] It destroys tree canopy

[2:32:15] .

[2:32:17] Asphalt doesn't absorb water

[2:32:21] .

[2:32:22] Replacing forests with

[2:32:24] impervious concrete surface is

[2:32:32] going to guarantee degradation.

[2:32:33] It $75 per acre

[2:32:39] .

[2:32:40] Real life, we are talking 10 to

[2:32:41] 25,000 is the area's cost per

[2:32:43] linear foot

[2:32:48] .

[2:32:49] The total profit of $3700 total

[2:32:55] cost to be 1.5 to $2 million.

[2:32:56] We are not going to be able to

[2:32:58] get them to cover the pollution

[2:32:59] and degradation to local

[2:33:03] streams and their own plans

[2:33:04] flooding and water should

[2:33:07] compromise with the biggest

[2:33:08] threat to prince william county

[2:33:12] environment.

[2:33:13] We will not be able to handle

[2:33:19] that with 3500 bucks.

[2:33:20] In addition this would bring a

[2:33:21] severe threat to the air

[2:33:21] quality.

[2:33:26] A campus of the size

[2:33:27] , everybody

[2:33:28] is well-educated it requires

[2:33:29] dozens of massive diesel backup

[2:33:31] generators.

[2:33:32] The biweekly testing and

[2:33:32] emergency operation of the

[2:33:34] generators is going to pump

[2:33:36] particulate matter, green

[2:33:38] gases, greenhouse gases into

[2:33:39] the communities there.

[2:33:44] Residents living nearby,

[2:33:45] correct me if I'm totally off

[2:33:46] on that one.

[2:33:48] They would be subjected

[2:33:51] .

[2:33:52] They have been subjected to

[2:33:58] localized low-frequency noise

[2:33:58] .

[2:33:59] I think it is somewhere between

[2:34:01] 65 and 85 db on a continual

[2:34:01] basis

[2:34:01] .

[2:34:02] there has been plenty of solid

[2:34:06] research coming out the noise

[2:34:06] levels produce because

[2:34:12] residents damage.

[2:34:13] There needs to be a stronger

[2:34:14] consideration of resident

[2:34:21] impact and it needs to be

[2:34:22] guarantee nearby residents

[2:34:23] would have medications if this

[2:34:23] is approved.

[2:34:28] In conclusion on this one,

[2:34:29] inadequate sustainability and

[2:34:30] demands maximum

[2:34:31] concessions:community.

[2:34:36] It squanders designated land on

[2:34:37] low implement facility that

[2:34:38] destroys our buffers and

[2:34:38] pollutes air and water.

[2:34:39] I don't think it's worth it and

[2:34:43] I rejected reject these items

[2:34:44] and deny the rezoning

[2:34:45] .

[2:34:50] That is the end and the last

[2:35:06] one is l.

[2:35:07] >> Chair Deshundra: we reset

[2:35:08] your time.

[2:35:09] >> I used 10 minutes and then

[2:35:09] six minutes so I still have

[2:35:10] three minutes pic I wanted to

[2:35:11] put the time together for the

[2:35:11] group to one's.

[2:35:13] >> Chair Deshundra: next time

[2:35:13] we will not clear.

[2:35:14] We will give you the last three

[2:35:14] minutes

[2:35:17] .

[2:35:18] >> I wanted to separate them.

[2:35:25] >> Chair Deshundra: let's go.

[2:35:26] >> melody miller.

[2:35:26] Gain, I

[2:35:30] appreciate your forbearance

[2:35:32] .

[2:35:36] The data in the staff reports

[2:35:36] ,

[2:35:40] there are really big flaws

[2:35:42] .

[2:35:43] They get the environmental

[2:35:47] impact of a giant red f. To

[2:35:51] squeeze 24 high density

[2:35:52] townhomes this project will

[2:35:57] destroy existing forced wetland

[2:35:58] this violates the environmental

[2:36:02] policy the 2400 conference and

[2:36:03] plan which mandates preserving

[2:36:07] natural wetlands over off-site

[2:36:13] developer mitigation.

[2:36:14] What I want to focus on is the

[2:36:15] true cost all heavily on the

[2:36:16] residence across multiple

[2:36:17] areas.

[2:36:21] .

[2:36:22] For financial cost the

[2:36:26] developer is offering $450 for

[2:36:30] water quality mitigation.

[2:36:35] Real-world municipal cost run

[2:36:37] tens of thousands of dollars

[2:36:40] per linear foot.

[2:36:41] This leaves taxpayers to fund

[2:36:42] the downstream restoration of

[2:36:42] the structure repairs

[2:36:49] .

[2:36:52] This unsupported with the

[2:36:58] contribution to public safety.

[2:36:59] When fire truck is $150,000 and

[2:37:00] can be well over $1 million so

[2:37:01] if that number doesn't have a

[2:37:04] couple of numbers on it, it's

[2:37:06] probably inadequate for the

[2:37:07] environment or cost is

[2:37:12] devastating.

[2:37:13] We are going to guarantee

[2:37:14] thermal pollution, we are going

[2:37:15] to guarantee increased

[2:37:28] stormwater runoff

[2:37:28] .

[2:37:29] We are going to guarantee heat

[2:37:30] island effect.

[2:37:30] He will destroy a natural

[2:37:31] carbon sink, which further

[2:37:32] degrades county shingles.

[2:37:37] 2030, 2030 build a heat island

[2:37:37] .

[2:37:38] Academy 53 seconds to expend on

[2:37:39] the wetlands, but this proposal

[2:37:40] violates multiple core policies

[2:37:45] about the environment and the

[2:37:46] 24 discount plan.

[2:37:46] Muslim going to close with

[2:37:53] opportunity and social costs

[2:37:53] .

[2:37:54] the county will forfeit build

[2:37:55] people ecologically intact land

[2:37:56] that imposes significant

[2:37:56] benefit to our county air

[2:37:59] quality watershed research were

[2:38:00] being offered 45 foot tall

[2:38:00] townhome clusters packed

[2:38:02] tightly with leaved environment

[2:38:05] buffer protections.

[2:38:05] They're going to degrade the

[2:38:10] quality of life for adjacent

[2:38:11] residents into irreversible

[2:38:12] permanent damage to the two

[2:38:13] things we were required to

[2:38:13] exist

[2:38:13] .

[2:38:21] Air and water.

[2:38:22] Please get creative on space

[2:38:23] use, uphold the 20 foot in

[2:38:24] principal income and protect

[2:38:24] taxpayers from externalized

[2:38:25] costs and vote number thank you

[2:38:28] so much.

[2:38:29] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you.

[2:38:30] I believe we have another

[2:38:31] speaker who signed up in person

[2:38:33] becoming, signed up remote and

[2:38:34] wants to comment.

[2:38:37] You have three minutes for each

[2:38:44] topic of the public hearings

[2:38:44] .

[2:38:45] If you look up at the timer

[2:38:46] state your name and generally

[2:38:47] where you reside at the w

[2:38:51] remarks and that you MAY begin.

[2:38:52] >> I'm kathleen and I am a

[2:38:52] resident of the gainesville

[2:38:57] magisterial district.

[2:38:58] Like most citizens I'm

[2:38:59] concerned about what happens in

[2:39:02] my county.

[2:39:03] But I'm also extremely

[2:39:03] concerned about our country

[2:39:04] being competitive in the global

[2:39:08] ai race in the coming years ai

[2:39:09] will solve many of the most

[2:39:13] serious health

[2:39:13] , environmental,

[2:39:17] farming, food shortages, other

[2:39:18] challenges and outright

[2:39:20] problems that face our country.

[2:39:20] It would develop the new

[2:39:22] medicines and curious for the

[2:39:24] terrible diseases we lost loved

[2:39:28] ones to me while I do not

[2:39:29] support alden dissenters,

[2:39:31] especially those that don't

[2:39:32] shea borges national parks and

[2:39:37] homes

[2:39:37] .

[2:39:38] I strongly believe data centers

[2:39:39] are necessary and play in

[2:39:41] important role in ensuring

[2:39:42] these technical logical

[2:39:50] advances are achieved.

[2:39:51] Further, if the manassas tech

[2:39:52] center is approved it would

[2:39:53] create hundreds of high-paying

[2:39:54] construction jobs for two or

[2:39:57] three years

[2:39:57] .

[2:39:58] That the significant work for

[2:39:59] people who decide learning a

[2:40:00] trade is the right path for

[2:40:03] them rather than going to

[2:40:04] college and being saddled with

[2:40:08] tens of thousands, if not

[2:40:08] 100,000+ dollars of student

[2:40:14] loans to get a college degree.

[2:40:15] Those whom the data center

[2:40:16] employees directly are blessed

[2:40:18] with good stable jobs to

[2:40:19] contribute to our tax base in

[2:40:25] prince william county

[2:40:25] .

[2:40:26] I believe in the electrician

[2:40:27] can earn a salary of 100,000 or

[2:40:29] more

[2:40:30] , well above the average in

[2:40:33] the county.

[2:40:35] This project aligns with the

[2:40:37] county governance and plan.

[2:40:41] It's recommended for approval

[2:40:41] by the staff in its recently

[2:40:48] received a positive vote from

[2:40:49] the clint pant planning

[2:40:49] commission.

[2:40:49] As

[2:40:50] such, I encourage you to vote

[2:40:51] for approval.

[2:40:54] thank you.

[2:40:55] >> Chair Deshundra: to we do

[2:40:57] not have anyone else in person

[2:40:57] .

[2:40:58] I will turn it to you

[2:41:04] supervisor angry.

[2:41:21] >> our speaker is craig.

[2:41:22] >> I want to touch on how

[2:41:23] important the data center

[2:41:24] industry is to the principal

[2:41:29] and county regional economy to

[2:41:30] provide the infrastructure

[2:41:33] needed for the digital services

[2:41:37] residents and residents rely on

[2:41:47] every day.

[2:41:48] Response to community concerns

[2:41:52] and designed to reduce impacts

[2:42:16] on nearby properties.

[2:42:17] Needs to be a significant part

[2:42:18] of our future and projects like

[2:42:19] the manassas tech center show

[2:42:20] that I can happen in a way that

[2:42:21] balances economic benefits with

[2:42:22] community

[2:42:26] priorities.

[2:42:27] I support rezoning application.

[2:42:28] Thank you all for your time in

[2:42:36] the service to our community.

[2:42:37] Spoke to be of any other

[2:42:37] speakers?

[2:42:44] Spoke we do not.

[2:42:45] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you

[2:42:45] everyone.

[2:42:46] Will go ahead and

[2:42:47] close the public hearings for

[2:42:54] eight a through for eight ms a

[2:42:54] mary berg I did not do the

[2:42:55] public hearing because

[2:42:56] supervisor billy wanted to

[2:42:56] defer that item but before we

[2:42:59] go on to everything else

[2:42:59] .

[2:43:06] I'm sorry.

[2:43:07] >> Andrea Bailey: I just want

[2:43:10] to give comments

[2:43:11] .

[2:43:12] >> Chair Deshundra: I will open

[2:43:12] the public hearing for that

[2:43:18] item.

[2:43:19] This book I would like to open

[2:43:19] the public hearing.

[2:43:19] Is there anyone who

[2:43:20] wants to

[2:43:30] speak?

[2:43:31] Open the public hearing.

[2:43:31] Is there anyone?

[2:43:32] We will close the public

[2:43:32] hearing

[2:43:38] .

[2:43:39] They should be contained in the

[2:43:50] motion.

[2:43:51] If they comments they should be

[2:43:57] contained in the motion.

[2:43:57] I'm not going to vote on

[2:44:00] everything on this

[2:44:01] .

[2:44:02] I'm going to pull it off

[2:44:12] separately.

[2:44:13] Does anyone have anything of

[2:44:13] questions on?

[2:44:14] Not comments but questions are

[2:44:15] something you MAY abstain or

[2:44:15] want to vote against?

[2:44:17] If not I will ask for a motion

[2:44:27] for eight a through m.

[2:44:28] Supervisor stuart, did you have

[2:44:28] anything.

[2:44:29] >> George Stewart: I wanted to

[2:44:34] pull off 8j and k.

[2:44:35] >> Chair Deshundra: anyone

[2:44:37] else?

[2:44:37] I'm sorry.

[2:44:40] MADAM County attorney?

[2:44:42] >> I want to make clear that on

[2:44:48] 8f and g it includes the

[2:44:49] proffers dated 9/1 a supervisor

[2:44:56] stuart mentioned before

[2:44:56] .

[2:44:57] >> Chair Deshundra: I would

[2:44:58] like to get a motion for eight

[2:45:08] a through I, 8l through m.

[2:45:09] >> so moved in with the

[2:45:13] proffers dated as said by the

[2:45:13] county attorney.

[2:45:14] >> Chair Deshundra: is there a

[2:45:16] second?

[2:45:18] Your comments

[2:45:18] .

[2:45:20] Are you going to get in there

[2:45:21] or stare at me

[2:45:30] ?

[2:45:30] It has been a long afternoon.

[2:45:33] Any discussion on those items?

[2:45:38] If not let's go ahead and vote

[2:45:46] on those items.

[2:45:49] >> vote unanimous.

[2:45:57] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you.

[2:45:58] We are going to go to 8j and k.

[2:46:01] Do you want to separate that

[2:46:08] out?

[2:46:08] >> I want to make a motion to

[2:46:09] deny

[2:46:11] .

[2:46:19] Motion that we deny rezoning

[2:46:29] 2025 item 8j and 2025 32 and

[2:46:33] rezoning 2026 22

[2:46:40] .

[2:46:41] >> Chair Deshundra: is there a

[2:46:44] second?

[2:46:45] Does not seem there is a second

[2:46:47] so that fails

[2:46:47] .

[2:46:48] Would you like to make a motion

[2:46:52] to move this forward?

[2:46:53] >> I move that we approve item

[2:47:06] j and k MADAM Chair this is a

[2:47:07] buy write data center.

[2:47:11] It is going to get built what

[2:47:16] this is doing is aligning which

[2:47:17] are different of one single

[2:47:19] zoning

[2:47:23] .

[2:47:27] In the same time we are getting

[2:47:28] buffers against the apartments

[2:47:28] that help protect the

[2:47:32] residential community

[2:47:32] .

[2:47:33] I would point out much of the

[2:47:37] land cleared.

[2:47:38] There is already some stations

[2:47:42] being built on the site that

[2:47:47] they will plug into this is a

[2:47:47] buy write data center.

[2:47:49] It's not a matter of voting for

[2:47:51] or against a data center

[2:47:52] .

[2:47:56] It is aligning the different

[2:47:57] zonings of the land so they are

[2:47:58] all one zoning in the

[2:48:02] development.

[2:48:03] is the intent is to kill a data

[2:48:06] center, this is not what is

[2:48:09] happening pickets by right

[2:48:11] getting built pick this is just

[2:48:16] a matter of a technical change

[2:48:17] to align it to a single thing

[2:48:19] and so for that simple reason I

[2:48:27] will be supporting

[2:48:27] .

[2:48:28] >> I wanted to reinforce what

[2:48:29] he said and I appreciate

[2:48:31] supervisor stuart your thought

[2:48:32] and spirit behind it but this

[2:48:36] is in the overly and if we

[2:48:37] don't approve it they could

[2:48:39] build the data's centers) So

[2:48:46] folks have concerns about the

[2:48:47] residential impact, they could

[2:48:48] build the data centers close to

[2:48:49] the existing residential and so

[2:48:51] that is one

[2:48:51] .

[2:48:52] I had a good discussion of the

[2:48:57] applicant.

[2:48:57] This is one of the first to

[2:48:58] utilize the high energy his

[2:49:03] facility so that should be

[2:49:04] highlighted in another reason

[2:49:05] we should be supporting this

[2:49:11] pickle wanted to highlight that

[2:49:11] .

[2:49:12] They also took some of the

[2:49:13] recommendations around proffers

[2:49:17] and green infrastructure

[2:49:17] .

[2:49:18] Again, would not be done by a

[2:49:21] buy write development pickle

[2:49:22] sought a good conversation with

[2:49:23] them around power utilization

[2:49:31] efficiency

[2:49:31] .

[2:49:32] Knowing they are doing as much

[2:49:33] as they can to make the

[2:49:34] datacenter as it will be built

[2:49:40] out as efficient as possible in

[2:49:41] understood scoring there'd be a

[2:49:42] substation that it will draw

[2:49:45] from and by the way it will not

[2:49:49] max out the substation pickle

[2:49:49] we are not dealing with the

[2:49:50] situation where we are going to

[2:49:52] make them in somewhere else

[2:49:53] .

[2:49:57] Again, understanding his

[2:49:57] concern around for the

[2:50:00] development of data centers not

[2:50:00] only in prince william county

[2:50:02] but that the commonwealth

[2:50:05] .

[2:50:05] This one goes a long way

[2:50:08] answering the concerns and

[2:50:09] another reason why I look

[2:50:15] forward to sunsetting the

[2:50:15] overlay and being able to eat

[2:50:18] be you said by right.

[2:50:23] Thank you MADAM Chair.

[2:50:24] >> I get the whole thing about

[2:50:25] the overlay district but moving

[2:50:28] something from someone's porch

[2:50:28] that their lawn doesn't make a

[2:50:29] difference.

[2:50:32] I think we do constituents

[2:50:33] dirty when we build data

[2:50:34] centers next to their homes

[2:50:35] .

[2:50:37] >> Chair Deshundra: going to

[2:50:39] pick up on that.

[2:50:40] We are not doing the

[2:50:45] constituents dirty.

[2:50:46] I'm not a fan of the industry

[2:50:49] but I go through the packets

[2:50:50] and I read and meet with the

[2:50:51] applicant and asked them

[2:50:53] questions we are not moving

[2:50:57] from the porch to their loan.

[2:50:58] That is the only reason why I

[2:50:59] would support this in this got

[2:51:01] a unanimous vote

[2:51:06] .

[2:51:06] Some of the people are

[2:51:11] passionate but the fact that I

[2:51:14] got a unanimous vote gives me a

[2:51:20] lot of confidence but it would

[2:51:20] literally be in their back

[2:51:21] yard.

[2:51:21] E are moving it from

[2:51:28] the porch and we have to do

[2:51:29] this because we don't want it

[2:51:30] right next to homes pick him

[2:51:35] going to break protocol.

[2:51:35] you are not going to present

[2:51:36] but I want you to bring up the

[2:51:38] slide because I want people to

[2:51:43] see what we are doing

[2:51:43] .

[2:51:44] I will have a little bit more

[2:51:45] say, but I want to give you the

[2:51:48] time to do that.

[2:51:48] You are just going to pull up

[2:51:52] the slide

[2:51:52] .

[2:51:53] What by right would look like

[2:51:57] versus if we approved at this

[2:51:58] project and I want the visual

[2:51:59] on the screen so everyone

[2:52:01] understands what we are doing

[2:52:01] .

[2:52:04] I don't want people to play to

[2:52:06] an audience

[2:52:06] .

[2:52:09] I don't want to stoke fear

[2:52:14] where no fear exists pick

[2:52:15] that's where I break protocol.

[2:52:17] I don't want people alarmed

[2:52:17] .

[2:52:18] I don't want people writing

[2:52:25] into us.

[2:52:26] I don't recall getting any

[2:52:29] concern for part of the reason

[2:52:34] is you see by right development

[2:52:37] , that is different zoning that

[2:52:38] would not allow for a

[2:52:41] datacenter to go on that that's

[2:52:48] where you're making the change

[2:52:48] in so they could move the

[2:52:50] datacenter a little further

[2:52:52] over

[2:52:52] .

[2:53:01] By right they can still build

[2:53:02] but I don't understand why

[2:53:03] anyone thinks the by rightist

[2:53:04] the proposed.

[2:53:08] I don't like data centers

[2:53:08] .

[2:53:09] I'm not a friend of the

[2:53:14] industry but I will be damned

[2:53:15] if I allow a project to move

[2:53:18] forward that could be worse

[2:53:20] than if we worked with the

[2:53:27] applicant got something better.

[2:53:28] >> Tom Gordy: when we are

[2:53:29] dealing with something by right

[2:53:30] we have the opportunity to make

[2:53:31] it better.

[2:53:32] We owe it to do what we can to

[2:53:39] make it better.

[2:53:40] We are going to vote on

[2:53:41] eliminating the opportunity for

[2:53:46] by right development not as

[2:53:47] something I've been working on.

[2:53:49] I voted to do that by the

[2:53:55] previous gainesville supervisor

[2:53:57] .

[2:53:58] We are trying to make for a

[2:54:01] better product

[2:54:01] .

[2:54:05] We owe it to our citizens this

[2:54:06] is in the middle of the horn

[2:54:09] baker industrial area.

[2:54:10] All of the land is already in

[2:54:12] the industrial area.

[2:54:13] This area was design a plan for

[2:54:15] industrial activities and it

[2:54:16] can be any number of things and

[2:54:20] there are things from an

[2:54:21] industrial perspective are a

[2:54:28] lot heavier and impactful from

[2:54:29] a transportation emissions in

[2:54:32] all sorts of things

[2:54:32] .

[2:54:33] If we can have a situation

[2:54:36] where we can make a better

[2:54:37] product to better protect

[2:54:41] citizens that something we will

[2:54:44] continue to support as long as

[2:54:45] the by right opportunities

[2:54:45] continues to exist.

[2:54:47] We work to

[2:54:53] try to identify and solve the

[2:54:56] issues to make the situations

[2:55:00] better

[2:55:00] .

[2:55:04] Again, I get where you are

[2:55:10] coming from but again, I have

[2:55:11] to fight for my citizens to try

[2:55:12] to improve the quality of life

[2:55:15] as long as the current

[2:55:18] ordinances are the way they are

[2:55:21] we are trying to fix that so

[2:55:27] the by right no longer exists.

[2:55:28] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[2:55:29] angry.

[2:55:29] >> Victor Angry: I normally

[2:55:33] don't chime in on these but

[2:55:34] that comment was a lot about

[2:55:39] from the porch to the yard to.

[2:55:40] I want to remind the board and

[2:55:45] remind the audience supervisor

[2:55:45] gordy said 2 to 3 months ago

[2:55:46] that we were going to have

[2:55:50] cases like this, for rent it's

[2:55:51] by right and we have an

[2:55:52] opportunity to make that

[2:55:55] product better picked this is

[2:55:55] that project.

[2:55:57] Maybe there is another one.

[2:55:59] I listen to you when you said

[2:56:01] it and I listened to the

[2:56:06] applicant as I came to this

[2:56:10] conclusion pick we have to get

[2:56:13] away from trying to stir up my

[2:56:13] group and get the folks in

[2:56:18] think this is doing wrong.

[2:56:19] This is far better and it

[2:56:20] would've been exactly what the

[2:56:23] by right development has.

[2:56:24] I appreciate the effort of what

[2:56:26] you have done.

[2:56:27] You did what you said and here

[2:56:31] it is

[2:56:31] .

[2:56:31] I am supporting this.

[2:56:34] Thanks a lot.

[2:56:35] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[2:56:37] vega

[2:56:37] .

[2:56:41] >> Yesli Vega: I want to vote.

[2:56:42] >> Chair Deshundra: can we

[2:57:04] please vote?

[2:57:09] >> motion passes 6/1 supervisor

[2:57:10] stuart voting no and supervisor

[2:57:15] bailey absent from vote.

[2:57:16] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you

[2:57:16] so much.

[2:57:21] We are now going to move to

[2:57:21] eight.

[2:57:22] Supervisor bailey, would you

[2:57:26] like to make the motion?

[2:57:30] >> MADAM Chair, I move we

[2:57:31] approve item 8n.

[2:57:35] >> Chair Deshundra: it has been

[2:57:35] moved and seconded.

[2:57:40] Any discussion?

[2:57:41] Let's go ahead and take our

[2:57:55] votes.

[2:58:08] 8n.

[2:58:10] >> let's start over.

[2:58:13] I thought it was good but eat n

[2:58:18] park is that on your screens

[2:58:23] now?

[2:58:24] How about now?

[2:58:28] Okay.

[2:58:29] No, but if the item

[2:58:30] .

[2:58:36] Okay.

[2:58:37] Supervisor bailey, second by

[2:58:42] supervisor boddye.

[2:58:42] Record.

[2:58:49] How about now

[2:58:53] .. Motion passes

[2:58:54] 7/1.

[2:59:00] Chair jefferson voting number

[2:59:00] .

[2:59:01] >> Chair Deshundra: we are now

[2:59:02] going to move to agenda item

[2:59:03] number nine in the discounting

[2:59:04] executive time.

[2:59:05] The floor is yours.

[2:59:10] >> first will come back.

[2:59:13] I have a few updates and I will

[2:59:15] jump right in.

[2:59:17] My office has worked to

[2:59:20] complete an audit of the board

[2:59:21] directive tracking records

[2:59:23] which identified 17 directives

[2:59:26] marked or closed after the

[2:59:32] requested work had been done

[2:59:33] but had not received a separate

[2:59:33] closure notice to provide

[2:59:35] transparent accounting.

[2:59:35] You received a memo identifying

[2:59:40] 17 directives, subjects, dates

[2:59:41] and actions taken on the basis

[2:59:46] for closure this included

[2:59:47] directives such as funding for

[2:59:48] additional noise testing, the

[2:59:49] adoption of an ordinance

[2:59:49] related to tax relief for

[2:59:50] elderly

[2:59:53] , the adoption of the

[2:59:57] ordinance regarding the three

[2:59:57] year dog licenses and other

[3:00:01] land-use matters

[3:00:01] .

[3:00:02] In addition to those directives

[3:00:07] , three other directives have

[3:00:14] been closed including review in

[3:00:15] the county current practices in

[3:00:16] authority related to angled

[3:00:20] parking and cul-de-sacs.

[3:00:21] And how the board could

[3:00:22] prohibit angled parking if it

[3:00:27] is to do so.

[3:00:28] You received an update on the

[3:00:29] expansion of the trap neuter

[3:00:30] vaccinate return program which

[3:00:31] we talked about today and they

[3:00:38] visibility study for deploying

[3:00:41] solar parking canopies at other

[3:00:44] publicly owned rooftops.

[3:00:49] Over the last month I sent

[3:00:50] several updates to the board

[3:00:51] this includes messages about

[3:00:54] the 2026 community survey that

[3:00:58] will launch this month with a

[3:01:00] mailing to randomly select also

[3:01:00] for all residents to

[3:01:04] participate beginning OCTOBER

[3:01:09] 12.

[3:01:09] As a county we have been doing

[3:01:12] this since 1993 so appreciate

[3:01:17] the tradition that has been

[3:01:17] established on the way in which

[3:01:18] we give feedback and use of

[3:01:20] that feedback for programs and

[3:01:21] services here in prince william

[3:01:24] county.

[3:01:25] He also received an update on

[3:01:27] panhandling signage.

[3:01:32] The update included timing and

[3:01:33] the placement of signs of the

[3:01:34] commitment of meeting with each

[3:01:37] board option office

[3:01:37] .

[3:01:38] You received an update on

[3:01:39] boards, committees, commissions

[3:01:44] or bcc in term details this

[3:01:45] work was requested and included

[3:01:49] a summary of the applicable

[3:01:50] term lengths as well as the

[3:01:57] completed audit reports and so

[3:01:58] I'm happy to answer any

[3:01:59] questions related to the audit

[3:02:02] and the report that followed.

[3:02:03] You received a consultant

[3:02:10] report for the planning update.

[3:02:11] The board asked for the update

[3:02:11] during the JULY work session

[3:02:12] with the planning office

[3:02:13] provided the board with an

[3:02:16] update on their workload

[3:02:17] .

[3:02:17] Specifically the board

[3:02:18] requested information regarding

[3:02:19] the level of spending on

[3:02:27] consultant services, which was

[3:02:28] provided to you for the current

[3:02:29] orders for professional

[3:02:30] assistance for the department

[3:02:30] projects and initiatives funded

[3:02:31] by the planning office's

[3:02:36] budget.

[3:02:36] The board said it earlier.

[3:02:37] I want to acknowledge chief

[3:02:38] matt.

[3:02:44] He, as you have said to, has

[3:02:45] been that the county since 1997

[3:02:46] and has made his way through

[3:02:50] the ranks in the fire and

[3:02:52] rescue service over the 49

[3:02:56] years ago want to take the

[3:02:57] opportunity not just a prince

[3:02:57] william county but our

[3:03:04] organization and to the

[3:03:05] generations of public servants

[3:03:05] he

[3:03:05] impacted.

[3:03:06] Thank you chief, thank you matt

[3:03:08] .

[3:03:09] Wanted to use the opportunity

[3:03:14] to thank him for his service.

[3:03:14] 49 years is absolutely

[3:03:15] remarkable and so thank you

[3:03:21] chief.

[3:03:22] I also want to recognize the

[3:03:23] department of economic

[3:03:26] development and tourism.

[3:03:27] Each of the international did

[3:03:33] abundant economic counsel does

[3:03:33] a survey of all the economic

[3:03:40] development organizations

[3:03:40] .

[3:03:41] In 2026 the economic

[3:03:46] development tourism team in

[3:03:47] prince william county was

[3:03:48] ranked number one received the

[3:03:49] economic development

[3:03:50] organization of the year for

[3:03:51] populations over 500,000.

[3:03:55] This is remarkable here because

[3:04:04] as the most populated county

[3:04:04] .

[3:04:05] Because it we are part of the

[3:04:06] most populated county category,

[3:04:07] we are competing against

[3:04:07] montr?Al

[3:04:11] , new orleans

[3:04:11] , detroit,

[3:04:16] phoenix, all of these big

[3:04:17] organizations and it really

[3:04:19] means the world and it really

[3:04:21] speaks to the board's

[3:04:22] commitment and the investment

[3:04:24] in the team and the team itself

[3:04:26] that they have done the work of

[3:04:32] being recognized

[3:04:32] .

[3:04:33] A big shout out to the economic

[3:04:34] development tourism team for

[3:04:36] the recognition.

[3:04:39] I also wanted to thank the

[3:04:40] board as we are closing out

[3:04:45] that year and opening up the

[3:04:47] current year that the board

[3:04:50] first invested in an increase

[3:04:52] in the communities program and

[3:04:57] really wanted to show the board

[3:04:58] the communications team

[3:04:59] interviewed a few of the

[3:05:00] community partners that have

[3:05:03] received awards as part of the

[3:05:12] fy 27 program wanted to take a

[3:05:12] pause and show the board a

[3:05:13] video of a few of the

[3:05:15] organizations and what the

[3:05:17] program means to the community.

[3:05:22] Please come and jump in.

[3:05:26] >> services, resources and

[3:05:27] support that make a meaningful

[3:05:29] difference in their lives pick

[3:05:29] prince william county community

[3:05:32] partner program I'm

[3:05:33] strengthened network the

[3:05:34] commercial ships with local

[3:05:37] nonprofit organizations

[3:05:37] .

[3:05:38] Teacher funding is awarded

[3:05:39] their competitive process with

[3:05:40] applications evaluated based on

[3:05:43] their alignment with the county

[3:05:43] strategic planning key

[3:05:47] performance indicators

[3:05:47] .

[3:05:48] In fiscal year 26 prince

[3:05:48] william county provided more

[3:05:52] than $570,000 to support 50

[3:05:55] nonprofit organizations this

[3:05:56] fiscal year the board of county

[3:05:58] supervisors increased that

[3:05:59] investment to one moment I'll

[3:06:01] discuss expanding support to 32

[3:06:07] organizations

[3:06:07] .

[3:06:08] Each organization brings its

[3:06:09] trusty relationships and

[3:06:10] understanding of the people it

[3:06:11] serves pick together the

[3:06:14] partnerships will extend the

[3:06:15] recent reaches services

[3:06:16] throughout prince william

[3:06:16] county and the impact of that

[3:06:18] partnership is best told by the

[3:06:21] organizations doing the work.

[3:06:22] 's become separate dental the

[3:06:22] founder and executive

[3:06:28] director.

[3:06:28] Here we provide a season

[3:06:29] wardrobe to local children in

[3:06:30] need that are experiencing

[3:06:36] clothing and security

[3:06:36] .

[3:06:37] Every box is everything a child

[3:06:38] needs to thrive in thank you

[3:06:42] from everyone here, we have had

[3:06:43] over 1000 volunteers walk

[3:06:48] through our front door in the

[3:06:49] past year and our friends

[3:06:50] through the community

[3:06:55] partnership program a been

[3:06:55] amazing standing alongside us

[3:06:56] and it allowed us to provide

[3:07:02] seasonal wardrobes to thin

[3:07:03] thousand local children helping

[3:07:04] us impact the lives of kids in

[3:07:06] prince william county.

[3:07:07] >> my name is shannon.

[3:07:08] Of the program director for

[3:07:09] pink space theory.

[3:07:14] Pink space there is a stem

[3:07:15] education program.

[3:07:16] We are operating afterschool

[3:07:19] programs

[3:07:19] .

[3:07:20] What we are trying to do is get

[3:07:23] kids excited about science,

[3:07:25] math, technology.

[3:07:28] >> last year we were able to

[3:07:31] hold our families night with

[3:07:36] which reached over 100 students

[3:07:36] quickly brought and county

[3:07:37] agencies as well as other local

[3:07:42] businesses and have a great

[3:07:43] night where they are learning

[3:07:44] how science affects their

[3:07:46] community

[3:07:46] .

[3:07:47] Through the community programs

[3:07:48] we are able to do with the

[3:07:56] funding, we are looking to

[3:07:57] connect students and families

[3:07:58] to local resources, career

[3:07:58] opportunities and hopefully

[3:08:00] connect them to future

[3:08:01] employers within their own

[3:08:08] community.

[3:08:09] >> a medicament executive

[3:08:10] director of rambo therapeutic

[3:08:11] riding center's rainbow serves

[3:08:12] individuals that have special

[3:08:15] needs or unique challenges that

[3:08:15] need additional support pick we

[3:08:16] work with students with mental

[3:08:21] health challenges, learning

[3:08:22] disabilities pick

[3:08:22] anyone who

[3:08:23] would not thrive in a

[3:08:23] traditional writing environment

[3:08:27] .

[3:08:28] We provide the services don't

[3:08:29] work on mental health, physical

[3:08:33] strength, anxiety and a myriad

[3:08:34] of other challenges and so this

[3:08:35] has been a real game changer

[3:08:37] for us

[3:08:37] .

[3:08:41] At 7% but it impacts 500

[3:08:44] students were 17 percent of our

[3:08:45] lessons.

[3:08:48] This allows us to not otherwise

[3:08:52] be able to access services

[3:08:52] .

[3:08:53] We subsidize 50% of our

[3:08:54] lessons.

[3:08:56] It was able to serve so many

[3:09:01] more people this is helping

[3:09:02] students the MAY not access the

[3:09:06] services anywhere else but with

[3:09:07] the help of the county we can

[3:09:11] provide that for them.

[3:09:11] >> they are three examples

[3:09:12] through the community partners

[3:09:14] program.

[3:09:15] Each of the 32 organization

[3:09:16] brings something different

[3:09:20] helping meet important needs

[3:09:20] and serve residents across the

[3:09:24] prince william county pick

[3:09:25] together the partnerships help

[3:09:32] make a lasting difference.

[3:09:33] >> a big thank you to the

[3:09:34] communications team does video

[3:09:37] will live on the website and we

[3:09:43] will continue to shout as loud

[3:09:46] as we can pick how many of the

[3:09:48] residents are being helped the

[3:09:52] partnerships and the programs

[3:09:52] and organizations being

[3:09:56] supported.

[3:09:57] Finally, I would like to remind

[3:09:58] everyone we are having our 9/11

[3:10:02] remembrance ceremony

[3:10:02] .

[3:10:08] This is the 20th anniversary

[3:10:09] and actually, the 25th

[3:10:09] anniversary for our ceremony

[3:10:15] .

[3:10:16] This is going to be a special

[3:10:22] ceremony we are bringing a

[3:10:26] number of families impacted and

[3:10:28] we are holding our event

[3:10:29] september 10 because many of

[3:10:34] the families participating in

[3:10:36] 9/11 ceremonies at the pentagon

[3:10:39] pick everyone is invited and we

[3:10:40] will have osborne park high

[3:10:45] school with this celebrating

[3:10:46] for that event and we

[3:10:51] appreciate the support and with

[3:10:53] that, that is all fort meade.

[3:10:57] >> thank you chris for the long

[3:10:59] but needed update pick even

[3:11:02] without it being AUGUST recess

[3:11:03] you and your staff have done a

[3:11:08] law so wanted to highlight that

[3:11:08] we went back on different

[3:11:09] requests for information

[3:11:12] .

[3:11:13] I wanted to thank you for

[3:11:19] helping me get straight on the

[3:11:20] different water studies we have

[3:11:23] going on

[3:11:24] .

[3:11:25] That is been a public and

[3:11:25] community concern and I don't

[3:11:27] think everyone realizes how

[3:11:29] much we have going on.

[3:11:31] I wanted to commend you and the

[3:11:35] team on the communities

[3:11:36] partners program.

[3:11:37] There's a lot of great partners

[3:11:39] doing great work

[3:11:39] .

[3:11:40] There are some things the

[3:11:44] community sometimes does better

[3:11:45] and if we are able to help

[3:11:46] empower them with resources it

[3:11:49] helps us to better too.

[3:11:50] Wanted to commend and highlight

[3:11:53] the planning department.

[3:11:56] Director washington, on the

[3:12:01] work that you are doing but we

[3:12:02] are responding to requests for

[3:12:03] information we have been

[3:12:05] fielding because it helps us

[3:12:08] get more transparency but

[3:12:09] helping the community

[3:12:13] understand just all that is

[3:12:14] going on in the great

[3:12:16] transformational things

[3:12:16] happening and so I wanted to

[3:12:18] say that

[3:12:21] .

[3:12:26] As we continue to audit look at

[3:12:27] directives and appreciate you

[3:12:31] going through that audit.

[3:12:32] There was a directive they gave

[3:12:33] about the transfer development

[3:12:35] rights program

[3:12:35] .

[3:12:38] I wanted to hear from you if

[3:12:43] you had an update on that.

[3:12:44] >> that directive I would

[3:12:49] divide into two parts.

[3:12:53] We have ongoing work marine

[3:12:55] corps quantico base that

[3:12:57] directive related and so the

[3:13:04] program and our pdr program we

[3:13:05] are providing ongoing

[3:13:07] communication and navigation

[3:13:08] .

[3:13:12] That said, the board acted

[3:13:14] JANUARY of this year to update

[3:13:20] the ordinance pick with it

[3:13:21] updated on an ongoing come of

[3:13:26] that work is ongoing pick I

[3:13:27] would say that part two is

[3:13:28] related to the comprehensive

[3:13:30] zoning ordinance and I would

[3:13:31] ask planning to provide an

[3:13:32] update on that part of the

[3:13:39] directive.

[3:13:40] >> tonya washington planning

[3:13:43] director pick with regards to

[3:13:49] that directive, as I shared

[3:13:49] when we are here in JULY to

[3:13:52] give an update on the zoning

[3:13:53] ordinance update

[3:13:53] , as part of

[3:13:56] our approach will be looking at

[3:14:02] the agriculture zones not in

[3:14:03] the first batch but the second

[3:14:06] batch and so we will be in

[3:14:07] breeding and taking a look into

[3:14:10] the pieces from the directives

[3:14:11] that relate to that as part of

[3:14:13] that effort.

[3:14:20] In addition, we are partnering

[3:14:21] in supporting the department of

[3:14:21] public works as they are

[3:14:24] working on a pdr program and

[3:14:26] seeing what pieces that we

[3:14:27] would need to support as well

[3:14:34] as the agri-tourism study.The

[3:14:35] department of economic

[3:14:35] development and tourism are

[3:14:39] working on now

[3:14:39] .

[3:14:40] There is a portion that relates

[3:14:41] to the agriculture and orcs

[3:14:45] overlay district and their

[3:14:46] consultants and our consultants

[3:14:49] had been in communications so

[3:14:50] they would be handed off.

[3:14:56] It is and we are looking

[3:14:57] forward to being able to focus

[3:14:59] on the

[3:15:03] .

[3:15:09] >> the transfer development

[3:15:18] rights program done to make it

[3:15:20] on enhancement for today and we

[3:15:21] will be appointing folks on the

[3:15:33] committee.

[3:15:34] And then supervisor give his

[3:15:36] directive on it last OCTOBER

[3:15:37] doing this interest in both

[3:15:39] programs

[3:15:41] .

[3:15:44] Knowing that all of us have

[3:15:45] places that could absorb the

[3:15:48] growth that needs to be done on

[3:15:49] so that is more what I was

[3:15:50] looking at

[3:15:56] .

[3:15:57] >> anyone else has anything for

[3:16:00] the county executive?

[3:16:04] When you are finished?

[3:16:07] >> if you could talk about the

[3:16:11] groundwater studies we talked

[3:16:11] about the presentation on the

[3:16:12] land-use

[3:16:18] .

[3:16:18] I sent an update to the board

[3:16:23] on the groundwater study

[3:16:24] connected to a directive from

[3:16:28] 2024

[3:16:28] .

[3:16:29] We are working with us

[3:16:33] geological survey

[3:16:33] .

[3:16:34] They provide a six-month and

[3:16:41] annual presentations

[3:16:41] .

[3:16:42] I am happy to have public

[3:16:43] works, but if there specific

[3:16:45] questions about it, but we are

[3:16:50] on our way in the partnership

[3:16:51] the work of the study is on

[3:16:54] track.

[3:16:59] Fall of 2028 we expect the

[3:17:02] final product.

[3:17:04] >> follower APRIL.

[3:17:07] >> I believe it is fall but we

[3:17:08] can follow up based on what we

[3:17:12] sent in the memo.

[3:17:13] >> Chair Deshundra: we are

[3:17:15] going to agenda item tendinitis

[3:17:17] county attorney time.

[3:17:22] The floor is yours.

[3:17:22] >> this afternoon in session we

[3:17:23] will have consultation with

[3:17:27] legal counsel and briefings by

[3:17:28] staff members regarding legal

[3:17:29] matters requiring the provision

[3:17:32] of legal advice by such counsel

[3:17:33] pertaining to energy regulatory

[3:17:33] lawn proceedings over the

[3:17:36] commission for such

[3:17:37] consultation discussion or

[3:17:39] improving an open meeting would

[3:17:40] affect the bargaining position

[3:17:44] in negotiating strategy

[3:17:44] litigating posture the public

[3:17:45] body in this item is

[3:17:48] appropriate for close session

[3:17:49] pursuant to do.2-37 1188 of the

[3:17:54] code of virginia

[3:17:54] .

[3:17:55] >> Chair Deshundra: let's go

[3:17:59] ahead and take our votes

[3:18:05] .

[3:18:11] >> vote unanimous.

[3:18:11] We are moving to agenda item

[3:18:12] 11.

[3:18:16] MR. Shorter?

[3:18:23] >> I got a text note from the

[3:18:24] team.

[3:18:25] You are correct, it is APRIL 28

[3:18:25] consistent with the memo sent

[3:18:27] out.

[3:18:34] Item 11 a for quantico memorial

[3:18:35] chapter and I will turn it to

[3:18:35] the office aplenty for the

[3:18:39] presentation.

[3:18:44] >> thank you

[3:18:44] .

[3:18:47] My name is eric

[3:18:47] .

[3:18:48] Bringing you today the

[3:18:51] initiation for consideration of

[3:18:54] a cpa 2025 002 quantico

[3:18:55] memorial chapel

[3:19:39] .

[3:19:45] Let's try this again.

[3:19:46] This is a request to amend the

[3:19:47] comprehensive plan long-range

[3:19:54] land-use of 4.23 acres of parks

[3:19:55] and open space to hamlet

[3:19:57] mixed-use.

[3:19:58] For the development of the

[3:19:59] funeral home and the site is

[3:20:00] chosen because it is a crossed

[3:20:03] the joplin road from quantico

[3:20:07] national cemetery.

[3:20:08] Staff recommends initiation of

[3:20:12] this cpa.

[3:20:16] If this project looks familiar

[3:20:18] it is because it is not a new

[3:20:19] project

[3:20:22] .

[3:20:23] We were before you in OCTOBER

[3:20:25] 2024 to initiate the smaller

[3:20:26] area for the same consideration

[3:20:28] .

[3:20:31] But two different land-use.

[3:20:31] So why are we back.

[3:20:38] The

[3:20:39] supervisor had several concerns

[3:20:44] about this being a little bit

[3:20:45] too upscale for this particular

[3:20:50] area.

[3:20:51] What is being proposed about

[3:20:53] the rezoning was office low

[3:21:01] rise.

[3:21:02] There are other possible

[3:21:07] considerations that would allow

[3:21:13] for a funeral home by right not

[3:21:18] an as intense and encourage the

[3:21:19] requester to look into the

[3:21:20] considerations on that is

[3:21:22] exactly what the requester did

[3:21:26] .

[3:21:27] The eventually settled on the

[3:21:30] b3 convenience retail district

[3:21:37] better fit for rural areas

[3:21:37] .

[3:21:38] In doing so, that district is

[3:21:43] not compatible vote was

[3:21:49] initiated and so they rethought

[3:21:50] , they are rethinking on the

[3:21:51] thought process to find a

[3:21:52] compatible land-use

[3:21:54] .

[3:21:56] They found his hamlet mixed-use

[3:21:59] and in many respects is a

[3:22:04] better fit back the other thing

[3:22:08] they did was they added land

[3:22:08] .

[3:22:09] During the review of the

[3:22:14] initial applications they were

[3:22:15] buffer management issues and we

[3:22:17] encourage them to expand the

[3:22:24] site to address those issues

[3:22:24] .

[3:22:25] They added some acreage and

[3:22:29] change

[3:22:29] .

[3:22:30] That is help with the buffer

[3:22:34] issues but it is those two

[3:22:35] considerations that require us

[3:22:38] to come back to you to

[3:22:42] reinitiate this cpa.

[3:22:43] Talking about the rezoning, the

[3:22:50] area are largely zone today

[3:22:52] .

[3:22:57] The proposed zoning with a

[3:23:00] retail.

[3:23:02] Again

[3:23:05] , most of the land use is

[3:23:06] parks and open space and that

[3:23:14] is largely because of the

[3:23:14] location of prince william

[3:23:15] forest park.

[3:23:16] We have a county registered

[3:23:19] historic site that the park

[3:23:22] required lattice to the east of

[3:23:22] the site

[3:23:28] .

[3:23:30] And discussing but park it is

[3:23:38] important understand the park

[3:23:43] was formed in 1948 the congress

[3:23:44] authorized the boundary as

[3:23:53] possible areas the park service

[3:23:54] has not been supportive of the

[3:23:59] project from beginning with

[3:23:59] concerns about the

[3:24:00] environmental impacts but the

[3:24:06] cost.

[3:24:12] Was it virginia senior by way

[3:24:13] it is been designated that as

[3:24:18] well.

[3:24:20] He submitted last week almonds

[3:24:23] regarding this objecting it for

[3:24:30] those reasons and also

[3:24:31] basically stay with the

[3:24:31] statement that they don't

[3:24:39] believe the land-use would

[3:24:40] serve the residents of the area

[3:24:43] land concerns about potential

[3:24:48] impacts that would have

[3:24:50] changing the nature of the area

[3:24:51] .

[3:24:58] As far as one thing to note

[3:24:58] .

[3:24:59] When thinking about how the

[3:25:02] proposed development will be

[3:25:06] compatible with the area, the

[3:25:08] national cemetery.

[3:25:12] That is a neighboring resource.

[3:25:14] That is one of the things would

[3:25:23] benefit as well.

[3:25:29] Was is also in the marine corps

[3:25:29] quantico special planning area.

[3:25:43] And that special planning areas

[3:25:50] we met with the marine base

[3:25:51] pick me share some of the

[3:25:52] concerns on environmental

[3:25:56] impacts in the area but they

[3:25:57] are not concerned about what

[3:25:57] the impacts would be on their

[3:26:05] operation.

[3:26:05] Mentioned before when we want

[3:26:06] to look at this in terms of

[3:26:11] where we are now

[3:26:12] , what was

[3:26:12] proposed in 2024 what is being

[3:26:13] proposed now, this is a good

[3:26:19] graphic that shows we are

[3:26:20] trying to get into a better

[3:26:21] place in terms of what is being

[3:26:24] proposed in the land-use

[3:26:25] supervisor had legitimate

[3:26:27] concerns.

[3:26:30] It's more of a suburban

[3:26:32] capacity and you can see this

[3:26:36] from the plans

[3:26:36] .

[3:26:39] And that t1 be is better fit

[3:26:40] for rural area and you can see

[3:26:46] that from the numbers and as

[3:26:49] well as job areas.

[3:26:50] The funeral homes will not

[3:26:54] employ a lot of people.

[3:26:57] You will not be an employment

[3:26:57] resource.

[3:27:02] Stop does recommend board

[3:27:06] approve initiations that they

[3:27:11] would provide opportunities to

[3:27:11] support quantico national

[3:27:13] cemetery that the proposed

[3:27:18] hamlet mixed uses are more

[3:27:18] compatible with the proposed

[3:27:19] convenient retail zoning

[3:27:24] designation

[3:27:24] .

[3:27:25] Amount proposed hamlet

[3:27:26] mixed-use is more compatible

[3:27:30] with the context of the area

[3:27:31] than the office mixed-use and

[3:27:32] that is what I have for you so

[3:27:34] I will open it up for questions

[3:27:34] now.

[3:27:35] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[3:27:39] bailey?

[3:27:41] >> Andrea Bailey: thank you for

[3:27:47] your presentation

[3:27:47] .

[3:27:48] I want to highlight the

[3:27:48] positive.

[3:27:52] Supervisor and I, GOD rest his

[3:27:53] soul commit interesting

[3:27:59] conversations.

[3:28:00] Not a lot of cocktails but

[3:28:01] conversations and one thing I

[3:28:04] enjoy about working with the

[3:28:05] supervisor's we could agree to

[3:28:06] disagree and then we would come

[3:28:08] to the middle of the road and

[3:28:11] so I say that because I did

[3:28:12] enjoy working with them but I

[3:28:14] also said what you said about

[3:28:19] this being complementary to the

[3:28:20] quantico base and not only

[3:28:24] that, it is needed on the

[3:28:25] eastern corridor because we

[3:28:26] don't have a lot of services as

[3:28:28] a relates to veterans and

[3:28:30] civilians

[3:28:30] .

[3:28:37] A combination of both did have

[3:28:38] a conversation with the park

[3:28:39] and it was an amicable

[3:28:42] conversation as well so you are

[3:28:49] speaking truth.

[3:28:50] This project is needed as it

[3:28:53] extends to the marine corps

[3:28:54] cemetery, which is part of the

[3:28:57] plan

[3:28:57] .

[3:28:58] You neglected to say that but

[3:29:03] it is a part of that.

[3:29:04] And the re-initiation, the

[3:29:04] changes are due to

[3:29:07] transportation as well

[3:29:07] .

[3:29:10] There's a highlight we had a

[3:29:14] discussion about that as well

[3:29:14] .

[3:29:18] I wanted to bring that forward.

[3:29:19] And has been a long time but I

[3:29:23] am going to support it because

[3:29:27] it is needed.

[3:29:27] It's needed for the community

[3:29:34] in the county to have

[3:29:35] additional access when people

[3:29:37] lose their loved ones

[3:29:37] .

[3:29:39] I appreciate how you presented

[3:29:41] it.

[3:29:42] It is needed and I said that in

[3:29:44] the beginning that is all I

[3:29:51] have

[3:29:51] .

[3:29:52] I don't have any questions.

[3:29:52] It is in my district.

[3:29:55] I will be supporting it and I

[3:30:05] welcome any comments.

[3:30:06] >> from a transportation

[3:30:07] perspective

[3:30:09] , I been down

[3:30:09] .

[3:30:13] i travel quite a bit to get to

[3:30:16] 95 and I've gotten behind a

[3:30:19] funeral procession pick if

[3:30:21] you've driven down joplin road

[3:30:26] you understand it is narrow and

[3:30:31] curvy hilly road to.

[3:30:32] There's no passing, there are

[3:30:37] no shoulders and if you get a

[3:30:38] good wind storm you will find a

[3:30:40] couple of trees down across the

[3:30:43] road.

[3:30:51] Looking at this is a relates to

[3:30:52] funerals, one of the positive

[3:30:54] benefits of having this located

[3:30:58] next to the cemetery rather

[3:30:59] than having the funeral

[3:31:00] processions come from the other

[3:31:08] points into the cemetery.

[3:31:10] >> one of the benefits

[3:31:10] , I don't

[3:31:15] have a good graphic to show you

[3:31:15] but it will have a direct

[3:31:19] access from the site into the

[3:31:20] cemetery.

[3:31:24] That would alleviate those

[3:31:25] traffic procession issues you

[3:31:28] talk about

[3:31:30] .

[3:31:31] And the going to butte funerals

[3:31:40] to other locations?

[3:31:40] Sure.

[3:31:42] As part of the rezoning there

[3:31:42] are ongoing considerations in

[3:31:43] working with the transportation

[3:31:45] department with the applicant

[3:31:48] team and making sure the access

[3:31:53] issues will be sorted out to

[3:32:03] mitigate any potential impacts.

[3:32:05] We are encouraged by what she

[3:32:09] was seeing and listening to the

[3:32:12] counties concerns and

[3:32:13] addressing the consistent

[3:32:14] moving in the right direction

[3:32:21] .

[3:32:22] >> most of the transportation

[3:32:25] impacts are going to be handled

[3:32:25] .

[3:32:29] We have already gone out there

[3:32:30] to walk the corridor work

[3:32:35] taking inventory.

[3:32:36] line of sight distance and ways

[3:32:39] to improve the intersection

[3:32:40] pick especially with more

[3:32:41] traffic pick people making a

[3:32:44] left turn out of there it is

[3:32:47] safe with them.

[3:32:48] There might be right-of-way

[3:32:53] constraints we work through.

[3:32:53] Live commented the same and

[3:32:54] there is suggesting doing

[3:32:56] something like a traffic circle

[3:32:56] .

[3:32:58] I don't want to set any

[3:33:01] unrealistic expectations, but

[3:33:05] that comment was made but we

[3:33:06] are proactively working through

[3:33:06] all that

[3:33:15] with the applicant.

[3:33:16] >> I think this benefit but

[3:33:20] given its location and that is

[3:33:21] a curvy area.

[3:33:21] I look forward to seeing what

[3:33:23] the transportation solution is

[3:33:30] .

[3:33:31] >> Chair Deshundra: did anyone

[3:33:33] else have any questions

[3:33:36] ?

[3:33:37] Thank you so much.

[3:33:37] I would like to go ahead.

[3:33:38] Would you like to move this

[3:33:45] forward?

[3:33:47] >> Chair Deshundra: I wondered

[3:33:48] if the second had anything to

[3:33:49] do with the traffic circle big

[3:33:51] supervisor trying to

[3:33:52] .

[3:33:52] >> Kenny Boddye: very quickly I

[3:33:58] wanted to thank staff doing

[3:33:59] more work on this become a

[3:34:00] highlight and reinforcement

[3:34:02] supervisor bailey was saying

[3:34:02] big supervisor weir, GOD rest

[3:34:04] his soul

[3:34:04] .

[3:34:08] I want to highlight how we do

[3:34:10] with the new comp plan of

[3:34:13] nuanced than fit an area like

[3:34:14] this

[3:34:18] .

[3:34:19] Wanted to say as we continue to

[3:34:23] have conversations not only on

[3:34:24] this project but folks that

[3:34:25] come in and request things we

[3:34:28] work with you all to get sharp

[3:34:29] when it comes to the right lung

[3:34:35] range land-use designations

[3:34:36] pick analysis and all the other

[3:34:36] reviewing agencies and the

[3:34:37] public perception about what we

[3:34:40] are doing to develop.

[3:34:43] I will be supporting this

[3:34:43] .

[3:34:44] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[3:34:47] bailey?

[3:34:48] >> Andrea Bailey: I want to

[3:34:49] acknowledge they client sitting

[3:34:50] to the back.

[3:34:53] Thank you for your cooperation

[3:34:56] working through the hard stuff.

[3:34:56] The small business is a

[3:34:59] resident for a long time until

[3:35:01] been watching the needs and how

[3:35:03] do we partner to make things

[3:35:06] happen we respect and

[3:35:09] appreciate that to the planning

[3:35:11] department.

[3:35:14] You all rock

[3:35:14] .

[3:35:15] It's good to see you in sitting

[3:35:18] at the end of the home

[3:35:18] .

[3:35:19] You identified if there were

[3:35:21] burial opportunities we need to

[3:35:21] acknowledge

[3:35:21] .

[3:35:23] That is important.

[3:35:26] Not just the traveling circle

[3:35:33] .

[3:35:37] Not just military history but

[3:35:37] family history.

[3:35:38] Hank you to

[3:35:44] the planning department for all

[3:35:44] the work you've done.

[3:35:45] It's been almost 5 years.

[3:35:46] Thank you so much.

[3:35:51] >> alright thank you very much.

[3:35:52] Let's go ahead, since there is

[3:35:54] no one else here to take a

[3:36:06] vote.

[3:36:07] >> vote is unanimous.

[3:36:14] >> thank you.

[3:36:14] >> thank you, MADAM Chair. With

[3:36:17] item 11 b zoning map amendment

[3:36:23] turning it over to planning.

[3:36:23] >> that afternoon.

[3:36:25] Tonya washington, planning

[3:36:26] director.

[3:36:31] She could not make it here.

[3:36:32] David will be here to provide

[3:36:32] the presentation on the request

[3:36:37] to initiate zoning map ing map

[3:36:37] amendment 2027 b

[3:36:43] ndment 2027 b

[3:36:43] 0001.

[3:36:45] > thank you MS.

[3:36:46] Washington.

[3:36:49] David from the planning office.

[3:36:50] Members of the board.

[3:36:52] Glad to present to you on this

[3:36:53] zoning map amendment.

[3:36:58] This is a different than maybe

[3:36:59] some other things you have seen

[3:37:03] and not this is a proactive

[3:37:05] rezoning by the board of land

[3:37:08] to further the comprehensive

[3:37:08] plan.

[3:37:11] As was directed by the board.

[3:37:15] In JUNE 19, 2026.

[3:37:19] This location was subject o a

[3:37:21] previous rezoning and special

[3:37:24] use permit for a data center

[3:37:27] that was denied by the board.

[3:37:30] There is not much industrial

[3:37:35] land in the area left that is

[3:37:40] not data center claims.

[3:37:41] It's an economic development

[3:37:42] opportunity to use this land

[3:37:43] and encourage development that

[3:37:46] is not going to be at the

[3:37:51] center and by proactively

[3:37:52] rezoning and make the way

[3:37:53] better for it and have more

[3:37:55] land that christina, the

[3:37:56] award-winning economic

[3:37:57] development team.

[3:38:02] So to potential applicants.

[3:38:03] We are recommending initiation

[3:38:04] of this.

[3:38:05] Again it's just initiation of

[3:38:08] the zoning map amendment.

[3:38:10] we will come back with public

[3:38:11] hearing to the planning

[3:38:12] commission and the board to

[3:38:14] approve this rezoning.

[3:38:17] So, just for location wise,

[3:38:20] this is west of manassas on

[3:38:21] route 28.

[3:38:26] West of innovation park.

[3:38:28] North side of the road near the

[3:38:29] airport.

[3:38:32] Near use for tomorrow.

[3:38:38] The broad run linear trail.

[3:38:41] It's s mostly industrial tech

[3:38:43] flex which is the medium

[3:38:48] intensity industrial

[3:38:49] appropriate long-range land use

[3:38:49] for data centers and the

[3:38:53] proposed zoning which will be

[3:38:56] planned business district with

[3:39:05] an office high and office and m

[3:39:07] to land designation.

[3:39:13] The variety for his.

[3:39:19] With that, if I can answer any

[3:39:20] questions.

[3:39:27] >> supervisor gordie you are

[3:39:31] and now you are out.

[3:39:32] >> I just have some comments.

[3:39:33] > does anyone have any

[3:39:33] questions?

[3:39:34] >> dave, this might

[3:39:37] be the easiest time at the

[3:39:37] podium.

[3:39:40] Run while you can.

[3:39:41] Supervisor gordie?

[3:39:43] >> MADAM Chair move we approve

[3:39:43] item 11 b.

[3:39:47] >> moved and

[3:39:48] seconded.

[3:39:49] Supervisor gordie I will turn

[3:39:49] to you for discussion.

[3:39:51] >> MADAM Chair, just a little

[3:39:57] bit of background nd here.

[3:39:58] In working with economic

[3:39:59] development we have come to the

[3:40:03] realization that innovation

[3:40:04] park is running out of land.

[3:40:05] We are looking, running out of

[3:40:10] opportunities s to have land

[3:40:11] that is this close to being

[3:40:11] shovel ready.

[3:40:12] e have lost a

[3:40:14] couple of opportunities because

[3:40:15] the land that we had to offer

[3:40:16] had to go through rezoning and

[3:40:19] then I had to go through

[3:40:19] development services.

[3:40:20] We are looking at 5 b

[3:40:25] 6 year

[3:40:26] window and the company says we

[3:40:27] don't have that kind of time so

[3:40:29] if we can identify areas in the

[3:40:29] strategy behind this to

[3:40:32] identify areas, land

[3:40:33] opportunities where we don't

[3:40:38] need a lot of improvements.

[3:40:39] The roads already exist.

[3:40:40] The water, the sewer and

[3:40:41] everything already exists.

[3:40:42] The land just does not align,

[3:40:46] currently with -- in terms of

[3:40:47] zoning to the comprehensive

[3:40:49] plan.

[3:40:50] We take a look, try to identify

[3:40:57] the opportunities, this will

[3:40:58] give us the chance to offer up

[3:40:58] more opportunities for the

[3:41:03] economic development.

[3:41:04] So the proactive rezoning that

[3:41:05] we are doing here is sort of a

[3:41:05] test.

[3:41:06] It's really that we are

[3:41:07] pressure testing the approach

[3:41:11] to proactive rezoning was and I

[3:41:14] really appreciate the planning

[3:41:15] staff.

[3:41:15] I appreciate economic

[3:41:16] development.

[3:41:18] We have had numerous meetings

[3:41:19] about how do we do this?

[3:41:20] Where we need to do to move

[3:41:22] this forward?

[3:41:23] This is sort of the test case

[3:41:26] to figure out how we do this

[3:41:26] going forward.

[3:41:27] Here might be

[3:41:28] some bumps along the way.

[3:41:33] We've already had one bump and

[3:41:34] realized there was 2 b

[3:41:34] 3

[3:41:35] parcels that we failed to

[3:41:36] include that need to be part of

[3:41:36] this.

[3:41:37] We will be bringing those back

[3:41:40] later on to provide the access

[3:41:45] to the site.

[3:41:47] In order to maintain momentum

[3:41:52] with what we currently have

[3:41:53] ongoing, I am asking us to move

[3:41:54] forward and we will address the

[3:41:56] other parcels here this month

[3:42:00] or next month.

[3:42:01] >> thank you MADAM Chair.

[3:42:10] >> supervisor bodie?

[3:42:11] >> again, not many people here

[3:42:12] in the audience but I will say

[3:42:17] it anyway.

[3:42:18] We said no to the campus.

[3:42:18] We have an opportunity now to

[3:42:19] highlight and increase

[3:42:25] employment and not activity

[3:42:26] that is in the brownsville

[3:42:27] district because we decided to

[3:42:27] go into a different direction

[3:42:28] on that.

[3:42:29] Earlier today, the approval,

[3:42:29] there is another opportunity

[3:42:31] where we said no to the data

[3:42:31] center.

[3:42:37] We said no in various other

[3:42:37] ways.

[3:42:38] We have employment

[3:42:38] opportunities there as well.

[3:42:39] I say that to say there is

[3:42:40] momentum behind looking at

[3:42:45] these areas in different ways.

[3:42:46] Saying no to data where it

[3:42:47] makes sense and in order to

[3:42:48] have more opportunities.

[3:42:58] I also see this as a broad

[3:42:58] scape around green tape.

[3:43:00] We talk about red taping and

[3:43:00] regulations and how they get a

[3:43:01] way of allowing folks to create

[3:43:02] more job opportunities or

[3:43:03] housing opportunities.

[3:43:04] More opportunities to begin

[3:43:04] with.

[3:43:07] I see it as a great step and a

[3:43:07] pilot.

[3:43:08] Green tape where it makes sense

[3:43:09] to the county to allow folks to

[3:43:13] get through the process a lot

[3:43:13] quicker.

[3:43:13] Time is money.

[3:43:16] Money is time.

[3:43:22] In situation where you have

[3:43:23] people that need land now.

[3:43:23] 24 b

[3:43:24] 36 month cycle to go

[3:43:29] through a entitlement and the

[3:43:30] development services and all

[3:43:31] those things.

[3:43:31] They don't have time.

[3:43:32] There is other localities that

[3:43:33] will allow that to be a much

[3:43:37] more streamlined, shorter

[3:43:38] timeframe.

[3:43:39] We are losing out on these

[3:43:39] opportunities.

[3:43:42] I just say that to say, this is

[3:43:42] the first one.

[3:43:43] I hope it's not the last.

[3:43:44] I really look forward to seeing

[3:43:45] how this is tested out and

[3:43:46] pressure tested so we can begin

[3:43:53] looking at ways to incorporate

[3:43:54] that into other strategies that

[3:43:55] we have two green tape the

[3:43:56] development as it makes sense

[3:43:56] to create more jobs in the

[3:43:56] county.

[3:43:57] Thank you, MADAM Chair.

[3:43:58] >> alright I don't have anyone

[3:43:58] else in the queue.

[3:44:02] Let's go ahead.

[3:44:03] Wait, we have a motion on this,

[3:44:03] right?

[3:44:15] Let's take the vote.

[3:44:18] >> vote is unanimous.

[3:44:21] >> thank you so very much.

[3:44:22] As we mentioned earlier, we

[3:44:26] voted to defer 11 item c to a

[3:44:29] day uncertain.

[3:44:32] We will go ray into agenda item

[3:44:32] 12.

[3:44:36] I first would like to take some

[3:44:36] votes.

[3:44:39] Let's go ahead and move letter

[3:44:46] 12 a.

[3:44:47] >> properly moved and seconded.

[3:44:59] let's go ahead and take the

[3:45:05] >> is it working?

[3:45:13] Jeannie is a yes.

[3:45:14] [Laughter]

[3:45:14] >> the vote is unanimous.

[3:45:15] >> we are going to move on now

[3:45:22] to letter 12 do you want to

[3:45:23] keep it up for us?

[3:45:26] Please turn on the microphone.

[3:45:30] >> MADAM Chair -- I promise you

[3:45:32] this will happen.

[3:45:34] I want to take this opportunity

[3:45:36] to introduce the director that

[3:45:43] I shared with you all before

[3:45:44] and I'm bringing it back

[3:45:45] because governor has passed the

[3:45:46] bill in reference to this.

[3:45:47] As we know there has been a lot

[3:45:48] of discussion and proposed

[3:45:49] legislation regarding marijuana

[3:45:52] and cannabis.

[3:45:53] I like to explore the ability

[3:45:58] of establishing local marijuana

[3:45:59] task force and prince william

[3:46:00] county.

[3:46:00] Without objection I would like

[3:46:03] to direct the county executive

[3:46:03] to work with staff to review

[3:46:04] the counties legal authority

[3:46:05] under current federal and state

[3:46:07] law to implement such a tax to

[3:46:10] include 2026 general assembly

[3:46:13] legislation signed by our

[3:46:13] governor.

[3:46:16] An assessment of the azur-HGAzurcc

[3:46:20] administrative requirements

[3:46:22] associated with such tax.

[3:46:23] Consideration of how pure

[3:46:24] jurisdiction of the virginia

[3:46:27] are approaching this issue on

[3:46:28] any policy consideration or

[3:46:36] implementation challenges the

[3:46:37] board should be aware of going

[3:46:37] forward.

[3:46:37] The

[3:46:38] county executive is directed

[3:46:39] to bring back an appropriate

[3:46:40] regulation for the board

[3:46:40] consideration.

[3:46:41] Such recommendation should,

[3:46:42] where applicable, should

[3:46:45] include timelines, physical

[3:46:46] impacts and other pertinent

[3:46:46] impacts for board

[3:46:48] consideration.

[3:46:49] The county attorney's office is

[3:46:50] directed to review the

[3:46:52] information regulations for any

[3:46:59] legal issues keeping us safe

[3:47:00] when the researcher work are

[3:47:00] completed the county executive

[3:47:01] should report back to the board

[3:47:02] with his recommendations during

[3:47:04] board meetings or by memorandum

[3:47:09] as they determine

[3:47:10] appropriately.

[3:47:11] >> Chair Deshundra: we don't

[3:47:17] need to read anymore

[3:47:17] .

[3:47:18] You want to make sure.

[3:47:18] If there are no objections,

[3:47:19] does anyone have any

[3:47:19] objections?

[3:47:20] All right

[3:47:25] .

[3:47:26] There is no one jumping.

[3:47:26] Do you

[3:47:32] want to jump?

[3:47:34] All right.

[3:47:39] And so that moves forward it.

[3:47:40] I will let you go ahead.

[3:47:40] Keep that light on.

[3:47:41] E will go

[3:47:42] around the horn

[3:47:51] .

[3:47:51] I am just saying yes

[3:47:55] .

[3:47:58] Everyone has

[3:47:58] , I know kidneys

[3:48:03] and their own stuff because

[3:48:04] long as everyone sends it to

[3:48:04] the board it will get on the

[3:48:07] next agenda so if anyone is

[3:48:08] anything to pass out, email is

[3:48:13] a better option pick with that

[3:48:13] ,

[3:48:14] are you ready for your five

[3:48:22] minutes of fame?

[3:48:31] [Inaudible]

[3:48:32] To reappoint millicent greene

[3:48:36] to the cda borden point seth to

[3:48:39] the housing board

[3:48:39] .

[3:48:40] With that I participated in

[3:48:41] national night out and had a

[3:48:45] great time with my colleagues

[3:48:45] .

[3:48:46] Thanks to the chief and

[3:48:46] corridor for the amazing

[3:48:50] evening minute ride.

[3:48:51] On the fifth I have a youth

[3:48:53] form with my interns and

[3:48:56] captain carter came

[3:49:03] , along with

[3:49:04] three other youth leaders and

[3:49:05] they talked about community

[3:49:06] safety and youth engagement,

[3:49:07] mental health and emotional

[3:49:08] wellness for preparing

[3:49:09] challenges for youth in the

[3:49:09] community.

[3:49:10] On the sixth I attended the

[3:49:14] adult recovery court

[3:49:15] graduations and congratulation

[3:49:18] to supervisor angry for your

[3:49:22] presentation and then on the

[3:49:26] eighth I attended the american

[3:49:34] revolution memorial dedication

[3:49:35] thanks to rob, parks and

[3:49:36] recreation for a beautiful

[3:49:37] presentation and finalizing our

[3:49:40] museum

[3:49:40] .

[3:49:41] It's beautiful.

[3:49:41] If you haven't gone there,

[3:49:42] please take a look.

[3:49:45] Fire rescue graduation class

[3:49:49] xxvi one bird dogs they

[3:49:49] graduated.

[3:49:52] On the 13th through the 15th

[3:49:52] ,

[3:49:55] supervisor angry for a great

[3:49:55] powerful summit where our

[3:49:59] governor makino speaker came

[3:50:01] and talked to us and us chair

[3:50:07] and how the human resources

[3:50:07] came and talked to us about

[3:50:08] snap on medicaid programs

[3:50:12] within our region

[3:50:12] .

[3:50:15] on the 15th participated in the

[3:50:17] foundation annual back to

[3:50:21] school backpack were

[3:50:21] contributed to my stuff

[3:50:22] attended

[3:50:27] .

[3:50:32] The 10th annual anniversary for

[3:50:33] the jr realtor association.

[3:50:35] Congratulations to them.

[3:50:36] And then the 25th anniversary

[3:50:41] wrap up buses in person.

[3:50:46] And then condolences to one of

[3:50:49] our great leaders

[3:50:49] , doctor

[3:50:57] howard passed away she was the

[3:50:58] PRESIDENT Of the national board

[3:50:59] member with the coalition of

[3:51:00] 100 black women in prince

[3:51:00] william county.

[3:51:04] We will MISS Her advocacy and

[3:51:04] support.

[3:51:05] On the 27th I did the back to

[3:51:10] school to her and shook hands

[3:51:11] with the parents and high-fived

[3:51:12] with the kids and we had a

[3:51:15] great time

[3:51:15] .

[3:51:16] Visas on the 27th as well.

[3:51:17] We had a good time and then on

[3:51:19] the 30th I participated in the

[3:51:22] maternal health summit 2026

[3:51:23] more program thanks to kristin

[3:51:26] 's who honored and

[3:51:34] participated.

[3:51:36] My mert derek would for the

[3:51:37] summit to support maternal

[3:51:48] health care congratulations to

[3:51:49] the washington manassas airport

[3:51:53] authority ceremony.

[3:51:57] We have finally gotten a formal

[3:51:59] certification

[3:51:59] .

[3:52:06] We can operate as a commercial

[3:52:07] airport and we need that on

[3:52:07] this end of the county so

[3:52:08] congratulations to all that is

[3:52:09] all I have.

[3:52:13] >> Chair Deshundra: all right.

[3:52:13] Supervisor stewart?

[3:52:17] >> George Stewart: thank you

[3:52:17] madam chair.

[3:52:22] Welcome back for what remains

[3:52:22] .

[3:52:25] I trust everybody had a good

[3:52:27] healthy summer and will enjoy

[3:52:30] what remains

[3:52:30] .

[3:52:31] Just to mention some things

[3:52:39] that happened since we last

[3:52:39] met.

[3:52:40] I also attended national night

[3:52:44] out in haymarket.

[3:52:44] On AUGUST 21 I attended with

[3:52:52] MADAM Chair the ribbon-cutting

[3:52:52] .

[3:52:53] The del webb the community and

[3:52:56] also in haymarket close to the

[3:52:56] hospital.

[3:52:59] I attended the summer concert

[3:53:02] series in haymarket

[3:53:02] .

[3:53:04] Haymarket is doing a law and

[3:53:08] also participated in A.M. Dc

[3:53:10] zip line to work.

[3:53:11] Everybody have a great

[3:53:13] remaining of summer we will see

[3:53:15] you in two weeks.

[3:53:17] >> Chair Deshundra: are you

[3:53:24] ready supervisor gordy?

[3:53:25] >> Tom Gordy: I don't have a

[3:53:27] whole lot to share

[3:53:27] .

[3:53:38] I did take the opportunity on

[3:53:38] the AUGUST recess to travel

[3:53:39] with my family across the

[3:53:40] country to take a road trip to

[3:53:41] do something my family has

[3:53:43] never done.

[3:53:44] Seen 22 states traveling 8000

[3:53:46] miles

[3:53:47] , visiting national parks.

[3:53:52] Visiting you lotta communities

[3:53:53] and seeing what's happening

[3:53:54] across the country in terms of

[3:53:55] how they are managing housing,

[3:53:58] how they are managing

[3:54:04] transportation.

[3:54:05] As well as come amazingly how

[3:54:06] many say no to datacenter signs

[3:54:07] across the country in

[3:54:09] communities

[3:54:09] .

[3:54:13] The issues we are dealing with

[3:54:19] are not isolated to us

[3:54:20] .

[3:54:21] Clearly we are seeing many

[3:54:22] communities across the country

[3:54:24] dealing with affordable housing

[3:54:25] they are dealing with other

[3:54:28] life affordability issues.

[3:54:29] It's really interesting to see

[3:54:32] what life is like.

[3:54:33] All I can say is I'm glad that

[3:54:37] we are not paying $6.90 per gas

[3:54:40] like they are in california.

[3:54:44] I do want to let the community

[3:54:45] know chair jefferson and I are

[3:54:48] working on a date and should

[3:54:49] have a date set soon as a

[3:54:56] follow-up to power meetings on

[3:54:57] electrical power and so we will

[3:54:58] be getting those dates out very

[3:55:00] shortly and look forward to

[3:55:01] conversations about meeting the

[3:55:05] challenges concerning the

[3:55:06] burnsville district.

[3:55:07] Other than that, that is all I

[3:55:11] have.

[3:55:12] >> Chair Deshundra: I'm going

[3:55:12] to go to

[3:55:13] supervisor boddye.

[3:55:14] >> Kenny Boddye: thank you

[3:55:25] MADAM Chair.

[3:55:26] First, a housekeeping item.

[3:55:27] I would like to provide my

[3:55:28] notice of intent to appoint

[3:55:29] owen meyer to the library

[3:55:29] board.

[3:55:31] The clerks have his resume he's

[3:55:31] going to be one our youngest

[3:55:33] appointees

[3:55:33] .

[3:55:37] He has come to our meeting

[3:55:38] quite a few times and is

[3:55:42] enthusiastic about working with

[3:55:43] the community and helping and

[3:55:44] so I appreciate being able to

[3:55:45] appoint him

[3:55:45] .

[3:55:49] I'm not going to belabor this

[3:55:49] too much.

[3:55:50] I went to the same events

[3:55:51] everyone else did.

[3:55:52] It's a great opportunity

[3:55:52] .

[3:55:55] There are some folks in the

[3:56:00] business community that think

[3:56:02] that AUGUST recess means less

[3:56:02] work on the dais or for the

[3:56:04] county government.

[3:56:08] It does not mean that

[3:56:08] .

[3:56:10] I want to highlight the work

[3:56:15] they did with the team and off

[3:56:18] of the table

[3:56:18] .

[3:56:21] And to all my colleagues we

[3:56:22] continue to show up at each and

[3:56:28] every day in various ways and

[3:56:29] so I wanted to highlight doctor

[3:56:30] guide to resolutions I wanted

[3:56:30] to discuss.

[3:56:32] When I sent out to folks a week

[3:56:33] and half ago.

[3:56:34] I'm sorry but I did print this

[3:56:34] one out.

[3:56:41] Some folks like paper

[3:56:45] this day and age.

[3:56:46] Most onto opportunity to be

[3:56:48] brief I principal them water in

[3:56:54] regards to interest of the city

[3:56:55] of manassas on consumptive

[3:57:01] reuse and diverting some of the

[3:57:02] treated wastewater out of the

[3:57:02] system to buy

[3:57:03] used by industrial

[3:57:03] uses.

[3:57:06] He highlighted why there is a

[3:57:09] concern a principal them water.

[3:57:13] Fairfax county and our very own

[3:57:13] fairfax water board of

[3:57:14] directors is concerned about

[3:57:18] this.

[3:57:21] That we take a stance as we

[3:57:23] continue to have conversation

[3:57:28] on water scarcity of our water

[3:57:29] comes from treated water that

[3:57:31] is put back in the system

[3:57:34] having it go away was probably

[3:57:40] not a good idea

[3:57:40] .

[3:57:41] That's going to be on the

[3:57:42] SEPTEMBER 15 agenda so I wanted

[3:57:45] to handed out to folks to have.

[3:57:47] The resolution out to folks.

[3:57:50] Long story short

[3:57:51] , there was a

[3:57:56] house bill that asked for a

[3:57:58] groundwater study to look up

[3:58:01] western loud in falk your

[3:58:06] counties in the watershed there

[3:58:07] for groundwater concerns,

[3:58:12] possible mitigations,

[3:58:13] groundwater management

[3:58:13] strategies and is everyone on

[3:58:15] the board and the community

[3:58:19] will knows, watershed and

[3:58:20] basins don't respect boundaries

[3:58:21] and so we were left out of

[3:58:23] that.

[3:58:23] The bill died in committee in

[3:58:24] qu?Bec and resurrected through

[3:58:28] the budget amendment was

[3:58:29] ultimately passed.

[3:58:34] Deq was conducting the study

[3:58:35] and it's going to be delivered

[3:58:36] sometime later this year in the

[3:58:37] NOVEMBER and DECEMBER

[3:58:37] timeframe.

[3:58:38] My second

[3:58:44] resolution requests that has us

[3:58:45] request can we be added to the

[3:58:51] study

[3:58:52] .

[3:58:53] Groundwater impacts also would

[3:58:54] impact us as well so I wanted

[3:58:57] us to be included in the study.

[3:58:58] Going on that is a lot for us

[3:58:59] to consider some not formally

[3:59:02] requesting that be only for

[3:59:03] SEPTEMBER 16 agenda but I

[3:59:03] wanted to.

[3:59:07] >> Kenny Boddye: it now so

[3:59:08] folks know that's coming in

[3:59:09] evokes of questions about

[3:59:10] resolutions I more than happy

[3:59:16] to approach me in my office.

[3:59:17] >> Chair Deshundra: I'm going

[3:59:18] to mix it up and go to

[3:59:18] supervisor lacroix.

[3:59:20] >> Jeannie LaCroix: welcome

[3:59:22] back everyone.

[3:59:31] I have a handout.

[3:59:32] I was a national night out as

[3:59:32] well and I was in the car with

[3:59:34] andrea and captain carter.

[3:59:45] With so much fun I joined the

[3:59:46] unity in the community at the

[3:59:47] unity church that was a good

[3:59:50] event when they had free

[3:59:56] screening they were doing all

[4:00:00] kinds of things and so I want

[4:00:01] the whole word to get out

[4:00:02] throughout the woodbridge

[4:00:10] district we also went to bel

[4:00:10] air mobile homes and that's

[4:00:11] where I was able to bring the

[4:00:12] welcome the woodbridge

[4:00:13] community resource guide to.

[4:00:14] I gave you all the completed

[4:00:24] one it's bilingual on we tried

[4:00:27] to make it woodbridge ringling.

[4:00:35] It stays in woodbridge and if

[4:00:35] you look in it and see we

[4:00:37] missed something we will added

[4:00:38] to it.

[4:00:39] I hope it's a growing document

[4:00:41] that stays local in emperor

[4:00:44] folks

[4:00:45] .

[4:00:46] I visited the senior center and

[4:00:53] the crisis center we had been

[4:00:54] knocking on doors to ask of

[4:01:00] them even though he was asking

[4:01:01] him if we could take care of

[4:01:03] picking up trash can help with

[4:01:05] mowing the grass

[4:01:08] , doing stuff

[4:01:09] in front of them and on the

[4:01:10] side of them so they been

[4:01:14] really good at that.

[4:01:15] The lacroix team went to the

[4:01:19] beach.

[4:01:19] I think all good supervisors

[4:01:20] should bring their stock

[4:01:20] to the

[4:01:29] beach.

[4:01:30] They were alone really good

[4:01:31] spirited and they are young and

[4:01:32] I'm trying to keep up with

[4:01:35] them.

[4:01:38] We were in lot of fun.

[4:01:39] We have a new member of our

[4:01:45] staff and it is the jamie

[4:01:48] lacroix ice cream freezer.

[4:01:50] Insupportable.

[4:01:56] We go and we do town halls

[4:01:57] because we know I don't draw as

[4:02:00] many people as I screamed does

[4:02:00] .

[4:02:01] We will try to have something

[4:02:03] there so we can help them and

[4:02:04] talk to them and keep them

[4:02:09] updated.

[4:02:10] We have also done the ho a

[4:02:11] roundtable with the

[4:02:12] neighborhood services

[4:02:13] transportation came.

[4:02:15] Police came.

[4:02:17] I don't know, did I appoint

[4:02:21] will lorenz to the purchase and

[4:02:25] development rights committee?

[4:02:26] Finally we adopted trashy the

[4:02:30] raccoon

[4:02:31] .

[4:02:31] It is something that is been

[4:02:32] going on and we needed in the

[4:02:35] woodbridge district

[4:02:35] .

[4:02:36] We went to the crab feast and

[4:02:39] had a great time and finally, I

[4:02:40] got back from vermont where I

[4:02:44] was canoeing and hiking and

[4:02:45] mountain biking in the mountain

[4:02:49] biking did me in.

[4:02:50] But it was a great time and I'm

[4:02:53] going back to mountain biking.

[4:02:54] >> Kenny Boddye: have a

[4:02:55] question for supervisor

[4:02:55] lacroix.

[4:02:57] Did you name him MR.

[4:03:02] Freeze because you need to.

[4:03:12] >> what was the name again?

[4:03:13] >> Chair Deshundra: I will go

[4:03:15] to supervisor vega.

[4:03:16] >> Yesli Vega: everyone has

[4:03:19] missed me tremendously.

[4:03:20] You can laugh now

[4:03:21] .

[4:03:22] Gosh.

[4:03:27] i don't have anything.

[4:03:28] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[4:03:28] angry.

[4:03:29] >> Victor Angry: AUGUST was a

[4:03:32] law so I won't go through all

[4:03:37] that her what I will do is I

[4:03:43] want to give my testimony.

[4:03:44] There are two things I did in

[4:03:45] AUGUST of that tie to what we

[4:03:47] did in our proclamation today.

[4:03:49] First of all, the adult

[4:03:50] recovery.

[4:03:54] That was significant for

[4:03:55] congratulations to the six that

[4:03:58] graduated from that.

[4:03:59] We know everybody makes

[4:04:00] mistakes on the fact that we

[4:04:01] can recover through the court

[4:04:05] process that allows you to be

[4:04:06] law-abiding angry businesses is

[4:04:09] fabulous

[4:04:09] .

[4:04:11] The second was on AUGUST 10 I

[4:04:13] went and gave blood.

[4:04:14] There is still a national

[4:04:16] shortage.

[4:04:19] Interestingly enough I can't

[4:04:20] give blood because I'm a sickle

[4:04:26] say it trait carrier.

[4:04:26] As we did this proclamation

[4:04:28] today want to tell my story why

[4:04:28] that is so very important.

[4:04:31] When I married my wife 36 years

[4:04:34] ago, the united states army,

[4:04:35] the first thing we did was we

[4:04:37] have to take this test because

[4:04:41] you heard in the data, sickle

[4:04:42] cell is a high rate in

[4:04:45] african-american or africans of

[4:04:46] american dissent.

[4:04:48] Birth rate

[4:04:48] .

[4:04:52] What does that really mean?

[4:04:53] We are talking about two people

[4:04:54] getting together and making a

[4:05:01] baby.

[4:05:01] My journey through that as I

[4:05:02] have a 36-year-old son and

[4:05:04] 26-year-old daughter

[4:05:07] .

[4:05:12] my message here is simply this

[4:05:13] week this is how we re-monitor

[4:05:17] sickle cell anemia because you

[4:05:18] get tested.

[4:05:21] If you are a trait carrier you

[4:05:21] cannot get with a trait

[4:05:23] carrier.

[4:05:24] My wife thankfully is not a

[4:05:27] trait carrier.

[4:05:28] It is important you get

[4:05:30] yourself tested for sickle cell

[4:05:35] trait

[4:05:35] .

[4:05:36] Lastly, the american red cross

[4:05:37] is at a national shortage of

[4:05:41] blood to.

[4:05:42] If you can give blood, give

[4:05:43] blood.

[4:05:43] Platelets are just as important

[4:05:44] because it helps fight off the

[4:05:45] lot of the immunity you don't

[4:05:47] have and so my message here is

[4:05:50] simple

[4:05:50] .

[4:05:51] Go out and donate and go out

[4:06:00] and get yourselves green.

[4:06:01] >> Chair Deshundra: I would

[4:06:02] like to appoint allison to the

[4:06:03] social services advisory board.

[4:06:05] You tigre town hall we attended

[4:06:07] bricktown halls

[4:06:08] .

[4:06:08] There's going to be a lot of

[4:06:13] them coming up in the fall

[4:06:13] .

[4:06:14] Supervisor notably on the pulse

[4:06:17] is a discussions about setting

[4:06:18] up a town hall in the proposed

[4:06:19] transmission routes coming to

[4:06:20] the principal district.

[4:06:22] I'm

[4:06:22] also doing a town hall

[4:06:26] SEPTEMBER 28

[4:06:27] .

[4:06:28] We are still finalizing the

[4:06:29] details of reimagining prince

[4:06:29] william to facilitate a

[4:06:34] discussion

[4:06:34] .

[4:06:35] Hearing from the community some

[4:06:39] of the things they want to see

[4:06:40] because the people of expressed

[4:06:41] interest to go into work with

[4:06:43] board members to get this teed

[4:06:44] up and 91 echo what supervisor

[4:06:48] bailey said.

[4:06:49] She was a local legend and she

[4:06:49] had done so much in our

[4:06:56] community.

[4:06:57] She was one of the founding

[4:06:57] members of the national

[4:06:58] coalition of 100 black woman

[4:06:59] prince william county chapter

[4:07:00] and she was a force to be

[4:07:00] reckoned with.

[4:07:01] And so that was a passing.

[4:07:06] Some people think I will stay

[4:07:07] with us forever but sadly that

[4:07:09] is not true looking at her and

[4:07:11] her service to the community, I

[4:07:12] hope it continues to guide us

[4:07:56] let's go ahead and take our

[4:08:09] vote.

[4:10:26] We are resuming our evening

[4:10:32] session.

[4:10:32] We don't want our young people

[4:10:33] to MISS School so the principal

[4:10:35] tigers were not able to come in

[4:10:35] the 2 o'clock meeting so we are

[4:10:44] going to begin with them we are

[4:10:44] going to do a commendation for

[4:10:45] this team.

[4:10:45] And so if the students can join

[4:10:46] us

[4:10:46] .

[4:10:47] If you could line up on the

[4:10:51] side and the coaches, we will

[4:11:19] begin with you all.

[4:11:20] >> good evening.

[4:11:22] Thank you MADAM Chair.

[4:11:23] I am trying so hard not to

[4:11:26] smile but I am very proud to

[4:11:27] nine.

[4:11:31] Not just to because these young

[4:11:32] men represented principal high

[4:11:33] school with pride and

[4:11:41] integrity, but because my baby

[4:11:42] who does not want me to

[4:11:42] embarrass them but I am trying

[4:11:43] so hard as a part of this

[4:11:49] amazing group of human

[4:11:49] .

[4:11:50] Let me get right to it.

[4:11:50] The board of county supervisors

[4:11:51] would like to issue the

[4:11:52] following proclamation.

[4:11:53] The rental district I school

[4:11:57] boys team demonstrated

[4:11:58] exceptional skills going to

[4:11:59] diminish, teamwork and

[4:12:00] sportsmanship throughout the

[4:12:03] 2026 season.

[4:12:04] The tigers capture diverse

[4:12:14] regional championship since

[4:12:15] 1998 and earned their place in

[4:12:16] the virginia high school league

[4:12:17] class iii statement advancing

[4:12:18] their postseason competition to

[4:12:18] the state championship.

[4:12:23] Principal advanced to the 2026

[4:12:24] class iii state championship

[4:12:27] game competing and finishing

[4:12:28] the season of the class iii

[4:12:35] state runner-up.

[4:12:36] The accomplishments of the

[4:12:37] students reflect the dedication

[4:12:38] of the players, coaches,

[4:12:40] families, school community and

[4:12:41] supporters who contributed to

[4:12:42] an outstanding season.

[4:12:49] Be it

[4:12:49] resolved the prince william

[4:12:50] board of supervisors air by

[4:12:51] commencing congratulates the

[4:12:52] rental district boys high

[4:12:54] school team for its outstanding

[4:12:55] 2026 season unremarkable run to

[4:13:00] the class three state

[4:13:01] championship game.

[4:13:02] This achievement will be a part

[4:13:10] of principal history and one

[4:13:10] layer memo.

[4:13:11] With pride for the rest of

[4:13:11] their lives.

[4:13:12] The board extends its best

[4:13:13] wishes for continued success

[4:13:14] bought both on and off the

[4:13:14] field.

[4:13:15] If you could please come

[4:13:19] forward to.

[4:13:22] [Applause]

[4:13:26] Which one of you two would like

[4:13:36] to speak?

[4:13:44] >> I prepared something be

[4:13:44] before we talked about winds

[4:13:46] and championships anything that

[4:13:47] happened on the field I want to

[4:13:47] take a moment to talk about

[4:13:53] what made the season special.

[4:13:54] It was all the people behind us

[4:13:55] all the way.

[4:13:55] To our players want you to know

[4:13:56] how proud I am.

[4:13:57] He showed up every day, he

[4:13:58] believed in each other and most

[4:14:00] importantly we learned what it

[4:14:01] means to be a part of something

[4:14:04] bigger than yourself and you

[4:14:05] give hope and believed upcoming

[4:14:11] players for next year and the

[4:14:11] future.

[4:14:12] What you accomplished will be

[4:14:15] remembered for a long time but

[4:14:24] when you look back remember --

[4:14:24] you don't just remember the

[4:14:25] trophies or scoreboard the gopi

[4:14:26] remember the bus ride scuba

[4:14:28] practices, locker room,

[4:14:29] celebrations, difficult moments

[4:14:30] and the people standing beside

[4:14:32] you.

[4:14:33] To our parents with in the late

[4:14:35] nights, the rights to practice

[4:14:35] ,

[4:14:36] the meals on the go and

[4:14:44] everything else nobody else

[4:14:44] sees thank you for trusting us

[4:14:45] with your sons.

[4:14:46] Be in a coaches incredible

[4:14:47] responsibility and we never

[4:14:50] take that lightly.

[4:14:51] Your support allowed these

[4:14:52] young men did she something

[4:14:52] special and we are grateful for

[4:14:57] that.

[4:14:58] Let me skip some of this.

[4:15:00] I wanted to thank coach rich.

[4:15:05] Without him he made a special

[4:15:06] for me to enjoy the game and

[4:15:09] enjoy these young men.

[4:15:10] i'm very proud of them and this

[4:15:10] is the beginning of something

[4:15:11] special

[4:15:14] .

[4:15:19] Go tigers.

[4:15:22] >> for those wondering, rental

[4:15:24] high school is in supervisor

[4:15:31] gordy district him however, my

[4:15:32] son lives in the coles district

[4:15:33] and redistricting caused some

[4:15:34] of my constituents

[4:15:35] , some of my

[4:15:35] kids to go to principal high

[4:15:37] school so that's why we are

[4:15:40] doing this together.

[4:15:41] I see that they brought the

[4:15:41] trophy.

[4:15:44] Can you lifted up?

[4:15:49] All right.

[4:15:50] When we do have special

[4:15:51] teammates not here with us

[4:15:53] today because they are our

[4:15:55] seniors actually now in college

[4:15:58] .

[4:15:59] Before we wrap up I would like

[4:16:04] nick and nikki to come forward

[4:16:14] .

[4:16:15] This couple is noah kaufman's

[4:16:20] parents and know what is not

[4:16:21] here with us because he's away

[4:16:22] at college doing what he loves,

[4:16:25] which is playing soccer.

[4:16:26] I want to brag about noah

[4:16:27] because he accomplish so much

[4:16:27] the season.

[4:16:36] Senior midfielder noah coughlin

[4:16:37] kicked off an outstanding high

[4:16:38] school career with this best

[4:16:39] season scoring 21 goals and 12

[4:16:44] assists while demonstrating

[4:16:45] exceptional leadership

[4:16:46] determination and

[4:16:46] sportsmanship.

[4:16:47] Know what earned recognition as

[4:16:48] a two-time first team all

[4:16:55] district of first time all

[4:16:56] region selection and concluded

[4:16:57] his principal career with 38 to

[4:16:58] goals and 24 assists.

[4:16:59] Establishing himself as one of

[4:17:00] the most accomplished players

[4:17:01] in history of the tiger soccer

[4:17:02] season.

[4:17:02] Lead them to the first champion

[4:17:04] ship since 1998.

[4:17:05] It's first day tournament

[4:17:06] appearances 2008 and an

[4:17:16] appearance in the 2026 class

[4:17:17] iii state championship game.

[4:17:17] Intruding crucibles and assist

[4:17:18] throughout the entire

[4:17:19] postseason run begin

[4:17:20] recognition of his outstanding

[4:17:21] performance, leadership know

[4:17:22] what was named the 2026

[4:17:23] virginia high school league

[4:17:27] class iii soccer player of the

[4:17:32] year distinguishing himself

[4:17:34] among the student-athletes but

[4:17:35] the board of county supervisors

[4:17:35] recognizes and congratulates

[4:17:37] noah on being named the 2026

[4:17:40] class iii boys player of the

[4:17:41] year.

[4:17:44] Ongratulations mom and

[4:17:54] dad.

[4:17:55] >> Chair Deshundra: we are

[4:17:56] going to go outside

[4:17:56] for the

[4:17:56] photo.

[4:17:57] If anyone else would like to

[4:18:29] >> Chair Deshundra: we are

[4:18:32] back.

[4:18:33] That was such a heartwarming

[4:18:34] moment.

[4:18:36] Congratulations to your son.

[4:18:37] We can't wait to see what they

[4:18:38] do this soccer season.

[4:18:39] Is a

[4:18:43] reminder for people not here

[4:18:44] for the 2 o'clock, 14 b

[4:18:49] rezoning proffer amendment for

[4:18:49] project industry.

[4:18:51] That has been deferred

[4:18:51] .

[4:18:55] And so we will only be hearing

[4:19:00] 14 a tonight.

[4:19:00] With that I'm going to invite

[4:19:02] the applicant's representative

[4:19:02] up to the podium for the

[4:19:05] presentation.

[4:19:09] >> MADAM Chair, supervisor

[4:19:14] gordy, thank you for being here

[4:19:14] to hear this case and I hope

[4:19:22] you had a great summer break.

[4:19:27] Wrong one.

[4:19:28] I think I prefer not to do that

[4:19:28] one.

[4:22:28] >> Chair Deshundra: I'm sorry.

[4:22:29] Is the problem with the

[4:22:30] applicant's -- were is the

[4:22:33] problem?

[4:22:34] >> we didn't get the

[4:22:47] presentation.

[4:22:48] >> Chair Deshundra: what I'm

[4:22:49] going to do is give the board a

[4:23:37] >> Chair Deshundra: if the

[4:23:37] applicant is ready, we can be

[4:23:41] back to minutes early.

[4:23:41] The floor is yours.

[4:23:47] >> think you MADAM Chair.

[4:23:48] I'm cory stupid on behalf of my

[4:23:53] client

[4:23:53] .

[4:23:54] It is in the introduction that

[4:23:55] is 23 acres give or take.

[4:24:02] It's on warrington road.

[4:24:03] Will show you the details.

[4:24:06] It was re-planned by the board

[4:24:09] to light industrial and it is

[4:24:10] located in the burnsville

[4:24:14] district.

[4:24:16] And if you would indulge us for

[4:24:17] a moment, I would like to the

[4:24:23] applicant come forward and talk

[4:24:23] about their business a little

[4:24:28] bit, if that is okay.

[4:24:29] >> good evening everyone and

[4:24:31] thank you for your time.

[4:24:32] My name is elder? They can see

[4:24:36] I have six kids

[4:24:36] .

[4:24:37] I grew up in the area, but in

[4:24:37] prince william county for

[4:24:38] middle school, high school and

[4:24:39] attended college around here

[4:24:41] currently helping different

[4:24:43] high schools with rustling.

[4:24:45] All of my kids are going to

[4:24:47] prince william county for their

[4:24:48] schools.

[4:24:53] We basically do screened

[4:24:54] porches and we service the

[4:24:56] community around here

[4:24:56] .

[4:25:00] I'm trying to be brief.

[4:25:01] My wife is with me tonight and

[4:25:07] so my dad is helping us my mom

[4:25:08] was helping us deal with the

[4:25:09] practices for tonight.

[4:25:14] It's a family owned business

[4:25:14] .

[4:25:15] With my side of my family and

[4:25:16] in-laws, everybody is involved

[4:25:16] .

[4:25:20] We do how to use, decks,

[4:25:23] screened porches.

[4:25:27] We work with composite decking

[4:25:27] and things like that.

[4:25:30] We also do stone masonry.

[4:25:31] Exterior wood burning

[4:25:41] fireplaces and stamped concrete

[4:25:42] .

[4:25:42] You can remember with us about

[4:25:43] what we did it with the deck on

[4:25:49] the patio.

[4:25:53] And tilt you more, the main

[4:25:54] reason was the way I believe

[4:25:58] was to continue to grow if you

[4:25:59] are not growing you are

[4:26:00] shrinking and if you were not

[4:26:01] shrinking you were dying.

[4:26:04] We are required to store the

[4:26:07] materials in their own property

[4:26:08] to buy everything in service

[4:26:13] our customers faster but in

[4:26:14] concrete is going to take me

[4:26:17] three weeks

[4:26:18] .

[4:26:19] I am not big enough for some

[4:26:19] people and I am too small for

[4:26:25] others picked the builders and

[4:26:26] other things taking place, I'm

[4:26:27] not priority so I can

[4:26:29] officially run my business

[4:26:30] picked being in but I meant to

[4:26:31] materials on site I am able to

[4:26:33] get to my work faster and thus

[4:26:36] the reason we bought it.

[4:26:43] I just didn't know the rules.

[4:26:46] that's pretty much everything.

[4:26:47] >> better than me.

[4:26:48] They wanted to hear more from

[4:26:49] you than me.

[4:26:53] This site is close to the

[4:26:56] county line and one thing -- I

[4:26:57] have another slide but in order

[4:27:04] to get to this site from 28,

[4:27:04] you don't go through prince

[4:27:05] william county.

[4:27:08] You take a left out of the site

[4:27:08] and it is a mile and 1/2.

[4:27:09] That is how you access the site

[4:27:12] for most people through an exit

[4:27:17] on 28.

[4:27:20] So this is the site

[4:27:20] .

[4:27:24] On the left not as though

[4:27:25] prince william county public

[4:27:29] safety training center

[4:27:29] .

[4:27:30] That is the truck were

[4:27:31] supervisor vegas spent a little

[4:27:33] bit of time.

[4:27:37] To give you an idea

[4:27:37] , before

[4:27:38] this was re-planned by the

[4:27:43] board, it was a perfect place

[4:27:44] to put industrial and I will

[4:27:44] show you the whole space in a

[4:27:46] minute.

[4:27:47] But you are right on the county

[4:27:47] line.

[4:27:55] Right over here

[4:27:55] , right

[4:28:05] down here is the solar farm

[4:28:05] .

[4:28:06] You will see this part of the

[4:28:06] county.

[4:28:08] There's a lot of nonconforming

[4:28:08] uses because this whole area

[4:28:09] hasn't been used for

[4:28:10] agriculture in a long time and

[4:28:12] so what happened overtime is

[4:28:16] people are putting light

[4:28:17] industrial uses in their and

[4:28:18] you have that here and you have

[4:28:25] it back here as well.

[4:28:26] Here is the space, here is your

[4:28:26] training center

[4:28:29] .

[4:28:30] Logan and heidelberg are

[4:28:33] related.

[4:28:34] Is a huge multinational

[4:28:38] corporation now owned we are

[4:28:43] located in germany.

[4:28:44] Leah been holding onto this

[4:28:49] property since the late 60s

[4:28:49] .

[4:28:50] Most of it is owned in what

[4:28:50] one.

[4:28:53] The biggest chunk of it the

[4:28:55] reason they're holding onto it

[4:28:58] is they try to get the sep to

[4:29:02] do the when I first entered the

[4:29:04] board in the early 2004.

[4:29:08] But they are sitting on and

[4:29:12] someday they will try it again.

[4:29:13] You can see the space that we

[4:29:16] are dealing with.

[4:29:17] Gdp is simple and the reason is

[4:29:19] there is no sewer, there is no

[4:29:25] water right there is not a lot

[4:29:25] that you can do with it but for

[4:29:28] industrial that's okay

[4:29:28] .

[4:29:29] I am sure you are hearing about

[4:29:31] this

[4:29:31] .

[4:29:32] There's a lot of small

[4:29:37] contractors and businesses that

[4:29:37] need a place to put their

[4:29:38] stuff.

[4:29:38] Nd the problem with

[4:29:42] them to which is the light

[4:29:47] industrial zoning category,

[4:29:48] doesn't allow for outdoor

[4:29:49] storage and equipment and

[4:29:52] materials as a primary use but

[4:29:53] out here that is pretty much

[4:29:54] the only thing that you can do

[4:29:58] and you set forth your stuff is

[4:29:59] working on a zoning text

[4:30:01] amendment

[4:30:06] , but for now there's

[4:30:07] a lotta people like this who

[4:30:08] want to be able to store things

[4:30:10] .

[4:30:12] Some properties can use them to

[4:30:13] .

[4:30:15] it works for data centers but

[4:30:16] it doesn't work for most

[4:30:19] businesses give a smaller piece

[4:30:23] of properties anyone to do

[4:30:26] outdoor storage as an ancillary

[4:30:30] use, it works for most

[4:30:31] businesses it does not work and

[4:30:36] that is the case

[4:30:36] .

[4:30:37] The m3 yard cites here.

[4:30:38] This is the one they intend to

[4:30:44] use this is warrington road.

[4:30:45] They have additional yard

[4:30:48] cites.

[4:30:51] As a huge demand for outdoor

[4:30:55] storage

[4:30:56] , and absolute huge

[4:30:59] demand.

[4:31:00] Now they have an opportunity to

[4:31:02] provide a solution for

[4:31:05] themselves and they won't have

[4:31:06] any problem trying to lease

[4:31:09] this out further light

[4:31:14] industrial humors or contract.

[4:31:17] I'm colorblind so tell me if I

[4:31:18] am wrong but in the turquoise

[4:31:23] you will see it.

[4:31:29] This is the industrial land you

[4:31:30] re-planned in 2022 and here is

[4:31:32] the pl, the public land you

[4:31:36] public safety training center.

[4:31:37] We went to the planning

[4:31:40] commission

[4:31:40] .

[4:31:41] At that time the staff had some

[4:31:42] concerns and we worked through

[4:31:43] those

[4:31:43] .

[4:31:48] We made several changes on as a

[4:31:49] result the staff is

[4:31:52] recommending approval and it is

[4:31:53] consistent with every chapter

[4:31:57] the comprehensive plan.

[4:31:59] This is the staff

[4:32:04] recommendation we did all that.

[4:32:08] We were consistent with I to in

[4:32:11] reality.

[4:32:12] We are adhering to the

[4:32:12] standards.

[4:32:18] This is de facto, but because

[4:32:21] the zoning category doesn't

[4:32:23] work

[4:32:28] , 80 uses in emmett one we

[4:32:31] have no use for those are going

[4:32:37] to happen that is why with I

[4:32:41] to.

[4:32:45] We excluded data centers

[4:32:45] .

[4:32:46] We know that is a concern of

[4:32:47] the community.

[4:32:52] We proffered that out.

[4:32:52] We updated the gdp.

[4:32:57] There was

[4:32:58] uncertainty the staff

[4:32:59] identified that we wanted to

[4:33:06] correct that.

[4:33:08] All right

[4:33:09] .

[4:33:10] I wanted to end on, I know

[4:33:15] christina is here but I wanted

[4:33:16] to end on the recommendation

[4:33:18] from economic development and

[4:33:23] tourism this is the reason why.

[4:33:24] There is a huge shortage in

[4:33:27] omsk data center and is going

[4:33:32] to keep those businesses more

[4:33:34] than anything it keeps it in

[4:33:36] the county in the job base

[4:33:37] otherwise they have no choice

[4:33:42] .

[4:33:46] Have no choice

[4:33:46] .

[4:33:47] They park their equipment and

[4:33:48] materials on the property in

[4:33:49] residential neighborhoods where

[4:33:50] they move out to the county.

[4:33:53] This helps balance your tax

[4:33:58] base and is consistent with the

[4:34:02] strategic plan.

[4:34:03] That's it and we are open for

[4:34:08] any questions you might have.

[4:34:09] >> Chair Deshundra: it looks

[4:34:09] like my screen is down.

[4:34:11] I can't even reloaded her

[4:34:13] .

[4:34:16] I'm going to look over here

[4:34:17] first big supervisor, did you

[4:34:18] have any thing you wanted to

[4:34:22] say?

[4:34:22] >> Tom Gordy: I will hold

[4:34:25] questions for staff.

[4:34:26] >> Chair Deshundra: does

[4:34:28] anybody else have anything?

[4:34:29] I am still down.

[4:34:30] If you would like to come up

[4:34:32] and present

[4:35:11] .

[4:35:12] >> good evening MADAME Turn

[4:35:13] members of the board of

[4:35:15] supervisors.

[4:35:16] Do you want to finish resolving

[4:35:17] the tech issue first would you

[4:35:21] like me to begin?

[4:35:21] My name is harrison.

[4:35:26] I am the case planner for this

[4:35:26] case and am going to go over

[4:35:27] with you guys the history of

[4:35:30] the case, what happened at the

[4:35:35] planning commissioner level,

[4:35:36] what issue they had, the

[4:35:37] applicant interested in how we

[4:35:41] got to where we are today.

[4:35:49] Moving right along.

[4:35:50] This is a rezoning for me one

[4:35:50] agriculture to m1 heavy

[4:35:51] industrial to allow for future

[4:35:57] industrial uses in that

[4:35:58] category and significant

[4:35:59] portions will be leased out to

[4:36:00] other industrial users will the

[4:36:01] applicant is only going using a

[4:36:03] small portion of the site.

[4:36:05] 's 23 acre properties stated on

[4:36:09] more intent road.6 miles west

[4:36:12] of the intersection with the

[4:36:15] carriage ford road with 94? 07

[4:36:18] ? 8472 and is addressed is 13

[4:36:22] 505 warrington road this is a

[4:36:25] rounding site

[4:36:25] .

[4:36:26] Subject is surrounded by single

[4:36:31] family residences

[4:36:31] .

[4:36:32] The north's undeveloped forest

[4:36:33] in the east is the training

[4:36:37] academy and solar farm.

[4:36:38] The planning commission did

[4:36:39] recommend approval with

[4:36:40] specific recommendations, which

[4:36:44] I will be covering in the

[4:36:45] moment and stuff does recommend

[4:36:47] approval

[4:36:47] .

[4:36:50] For full transparency, there

[4:36:53] were public comments of the

[4:36:54] planning commission hearing and

[4:36:56] we received public comments as

[4:37:01] well over email and other

[4:37:05] submitted methods.

[4:37:06] Going real quick on the future

[4:37:08] land use map of the subject

[4:37:10] property with a one zoning with

[4:37:14] the inlet one vulcan land to

[4:37:15] the north because he can see in

[4:37:16] the future land use map it's

[4:37:17] all surrounded by light

[4:37:20] industrial the right next to

[4:37:22] the public lands in the

[4:37:23] training center is already

[4:37:27] established

[4:37:27] .

[4:37:28] Moving along to the planning

[4:37:29] commission hearing, staff

[4:37:33] recommended denial due to the

[4:37:33] following conflict of the

[4:37:34] long-range land-use designation

[4:37:35] due to the proposed use zoning

[4:37:37] designation and hot and

[4:37:38] omissions of the elements of

[4:37:41] the gdp that prevented staff

[4:37:43] conducting an analysis

[4:37:43] .

[4:37:46] Specifically with the last

[4:37:46] part, it was considered a

[4:37:50] bubble plan or doesn't show the

[4:37:51] location of any structures or

[4:37:53] uses are.

[4:37:54] Just here is the land debate

[4:37:58] and that's it.

[4:37:59] When it was brought up to the

[4:38:00] planning commission APRIL 2,

[4:38:02] 2026, the proposal was

[4:38:04] recommended approval

[4:38:05] .

[4:38:09] These accommodations are the

[4:38:09] following.

[4:38:10] The applicant had to work

[4:38:13] regarding the buffer system and

[4:38:14] wind of the roads are laid out

[4:38:17] regarding tree removal

[4:38:18] , removal

[4:38:18] of coal from the coal would

[4:38:19] lumber yards as a use of the

[4:38:23] application.

[4:38:24] To work with the board of

[4:38:25] county supervisors between the

[4:38:26] planning commission meeting in

[4:38:28] today's board of supervisors

[4:38:29] meeting to see if there are

[4:38:30] other items on the allowed uses

[4:38:31] that are by right only and

[4:38:34] allowed uses that would only

[4:38:36] need a special use permit if

[4:38:37] any of those need to be

[4:38:40] removed.

[4:38:41] Removing the silo for the

[4:38:42] proffer statement and having

[4:38:43] the locations of the buildings

[4:38:46] were clearly stated.

[4:38:47] Following up with the applicant

[4:38:49] over the next few months, the

[4:38:50] applicant made a significant

[4:38:52] update to the application that

[4:38:53] adequately addressed the

[4:38:54] recommendations of the planning

[4:38:57] commission as well as staff

[4:39:00] identified weaknesses

[4:39:00] .

[4:39:01] Specifically they did remove

[4:39:03] coal yards as a use, they were

[4:39:07] quite substantial conformance

[4:39:08] to the gdp, replace the 20 foot

[4:39:11] landscape strip with the 50

[4:39:12] foot buffer, clarify the

[4:39:13] construction of a concrete silo

[4:39:20] requires a future special use

[4:39:20] permit.

[4:39:21] The maximum building height

[4:39:22] would be capped at 45 feet and

[4:39:26] 60 feet for a future silo.

[4:39:26] The reason we are talking about

[4:39:27] that hypothetical future silo

[4:39:29] now is so they don't have to

[4:39:30] come back for proper amendment

[4:39:32] as well as for a special use

[4:39:33] permit.

[4:39:35] Limitations are added the

[4:39:36] number and square footage of

[4:39:38] any buildings

[4:39:38] .

[4:39:39] added maximum building location

[4:39:41] envelope that I will point out

[4:39:44] on the g bead the.

[4:39:44] Required coronation on tree

[4:39:48] removal and added minor

[4:39:53] modification language.

[4:39:54] Then as shown by the applicant,

[4:39:55] we determined it is consistent

[4:39:55] with all aspects of the

[4:39:58] comprehensive plan pick moving

[4:40:01] to the long-range land-use

[4:40:02] committee updates the applicant

[4:40:07] later consistent with the

[4:40:08] land-use long-range land-use

[4:40:09] designation which aligns with

[4:40:10] land-use policy to an action

[4:40:12] strategy 2.2.

[4:40:20] Specifically it is meeting the

[4:40:21] target building height, the

[4:40:22] minimum open space expected,

[4:40:23] the target nonresidential floor

[4:40:31] to air ratio of up to 0.23

[4:40:32] .

[4:40:33] And then you could argue

[4:40:33] outside the primary uses they

[4:40:36] are asking for would fit under

[4:40:40] the primary uses desired.

[4:40:41] There still not doing the

[4:40:44] implementation zoning seen

[4:40:44] ,

[4:40:45] which would be in two.

[4:40:50] However, they are proffering to

[4:40:51] all the other aspects that we

[4:40:59] would expect from that zone.

[4:41:00] Just for clarification,

[4:41:03] land-use policy states

[4:41:04] densities and intensities that

[4:41:05] promote patterns throughout the

[4:41:08] county and tilt 2.2 states new

[4:41:09] development application should

[4:41:13] have densities appropriate to

[4:41:13] the character and reason are

[4:41:14] consistent with those reflected

[4:41:15] on

[4:41:15] the long-range land-use map.

[4:41:18] Moving to next side to come I'm

[4:41:18] not going to read through ever

[4:41:23] use this is a list of all the

[4:41:25] uses the property would be able

[4:41:28] to do under the rezoning.

[4:41:29] i segmented it out to different

[4:41:31] categories for ease of analysis

[4:41:32] pick the first section or uses

[4:41:36] allowed both in the light

[4:41:36] industrial and m1 heavy

[4:41:41] industrial by right so even if

[4:41:42] they decided they would still

[4:41:46] be allowed to do all these uses

[4:41:47] the following section are

[4:41:47] allowed uses allowed a

[4:41:51] secondary uses in the m2 and

[4:41:54] that would be equipment

[4:41:55] material which is the desired

[4:41:57] use of the applicant.

[4:42:01] This is called outside storage.

[4:42:02] Moving along to the next

[4:42:03] section we have allowed uses

[4:42:07] that of a special use permit

[4:42:10] one of them the fleet parking

[4:42:11] which is a desired use of

[4:42:16] applicant.

[4:42:18] Arborough right in the m1 and

[4:42:23] allowed uses in the m1 heavy

[4:42:24] industrial.

[4:42:33] The applicant has stated that

[4:42:34] he plans to submit a future use

[4:42:34] permit for a concrete

[4:42:36] plan:property.

[4:42:37] Lisa bill the uses allowed to

[4:42:39] occur whether through the

[4:42:43] business through another

[4:42:44] business that leases out part

[4:42:53] of the site.

[4:42:53] Moving right along.

[4:42:54] Oving to

[4:42:55] a community design, the updates

[4:42:56] addressed previously stated

[4:42:57] omissions and uncertainty

[4:42:58] providing a gdp that allows for

[4:43:03] proper staff analysis.

[4:43:04] The provision of additional

[4:43:05] details includes the provision

[4:43:06] of a building envelope, which I

[4:43:08] will show you when I bring up

[4:43:10] the gdp which restricts any

[4:43:15] future building MAY be placed

[4:43:16] maximum building square footage

[4:43:17] is where only three buildings

[4:43:20] can be 16,000 ft.? Smaller than

[4:43:21] the mom picked it maximum

[4:43:26] industrial square footage would

[4:43:27] be restricted to the the

[4:43:28] florida aired the ratio allowed

[4:43:34] on the entire state does

[4:43:35] encourage site architectural

[4:43:38] signage and landscape designs

[4:43:39] that complement the scale and

[4:43:40] plan development in the

[4:43:40] development area the rural

[4:43:44] area.

[4:43:46] There is the gdp I'm going to

[4:43:52] zoom in because it is vain the

[4:44:01] dotted line you see that is the

[4:44:02] building envelope that they are

[4:44:05] prophesying their activity they

[4:44:07] can do can occur within the

[4:44:14] dotted line envelope.

[4:44:16] All wetlands areas are not in

[4:44:23] limits a disturbance the 50

[4:44:24] foot boundary line surrounding

[4:44:26] the property and then moving

[4:44:30] right along in the

[4:44:31] recommendation of the planning

[4:44:39] commission planning officer

[4:44:41] commence approval of rezoning

[4:44:47] 24 001 subject of the proffer

[4:44:48] is dated JULY 15, 2026 for the

[4:44:51] following reasons

[4:44:52] .

[4:44:53] One update stuff determine the

[4:44:54] applicant updates adhere to the

[4:44:55] recommendations made as well as

[4:44:55] sufficiently addressing

[4:44:58] concerns stuff outlined

[4:45:01] long-range end-use alignment

[4:45:02] with the updates made make the

[4:45:08] rezoning consistent with the

[4:45:09] industrial the extrinsic to

[4:45:10] when long-range land-use

[4:45:11] designation that lies with

[4:45:11] land-use policy to an action

[4:45:16] strategy to not to pick

[4:45:17] industrial development,

[4:45:18] development of the industry is

[4:45:19] is exclusive of data centers

[4:45:29] aligns with 12.3 uncertainty

[4:45:30] providing a gdp which allows

[4:45:36] for proper staff analysis.

[4:45:37] As well as an updated proffer

[4:45:38] statement provide clarity

[4:45:39] regarding the project

[4:45:40] aspirations and commitments to

[4:45:41] orderly development.

[4:45:41] This aligns with

[4:45:44] glenn policy enough to stop

[4:45:45] presentation on them here to

[4:45:50] answer any questions

[4:45:50] .

[4:45:51] >> Chair Deshundra: is this

[4:45:52] your first time in front of us?

[4:45:53] Boykin.

[4:45:53] >> Chair Deshundra:

[4:45:54] congratulations.

[4:45:55] Spoke first on presenting.

[4:45:56] I was here for a consolidated

[4:45:59] case a while ago.

[4:46:03] >> Chair Deshundra: tom?

[4:46:05] >> Tom Gordy: thank you for the

[4:46:05] presentation.

[4:46:08] Good job will not.

[4:46:09] Could you go back to the sleigh

[4:46:22] were dark so the comparisons it

[4:46:22] upsets understand the nature of

[4:46:23] the complexity of how we are

[4:46:28] trying to get to the intent is

[4:46:29] was stein designed in the comp

[4:46:35] plan because the limitations

[4:46:35] ,

[4:46:36] the fact it does not allow

[4:46:38] outdoor storage, it really does

[4:46:41] adversely affect the ability to

[4:46:46] meet the comp plan to allow

[4:46:47] outdoor storage as a primary

[4:46:49] use

[4:46:49] .

[4:46:59] If you don't mind this is a

[4:47:04] great slide to show there are

[4:47:11] pretty intense uses makinde

[4:47:12] been utilized but this is a

[4:47:12] much, would you describe this

[4:47:15] activity is much less intensive

[4:47:19] and industrial use in some of

[4:47:20] the things that can be allowed

[4:47:25] to by right?

[4:47:26] >> if you're looking at

[4:47:27] distribution fulfillment

[4:47:27] centers I would say.

[4:47:28] That

[4:47:30] would be a great example.

[4:47:31] >> in terms of the

[4:47:32] transportation aspect

[4:47:33] : can you

[4:47:40] explain describe the

[4:47:43] transportation requirements as

[4:47:49] it relates to activities

[4:47:50] >> what we have on the proffer

[4:47:51] statement

[4:47:51] .

[4:47:56] Proffer 23 they have or intend

[4:47:56] road application.

[4:47:59] The applicant shall be required

[4:48:00] to pave warrington road but

[4:48:02] after construction is complete

[4:48:03] or at the request of the

[4:48:04] department transportation

[4:48:08] restore warrington road equal

[4:48:09] to the preconstruction

[4:48:10] condition compliance shall be

[4:48:12] devastated prior to final

[4:48:13] inspection required approval by

[4:48:14] the prince william county

[4:48:18] department of transportation

[4:48:18] .

[4:48:19] And I am not sure if there is

[4:48:20] anyone from transportation here

[4:48:27] tonight.

[4:48:28] >> Tom Gordy: warrington road

[4:48:29] is a dirt road.

[4:48:31] It is fairly wide.

[4:48:37] I can't remember what we call

[4:48:38] the pave in-place program, but

[4:48:38] there are some issues related

[4:48:47] to that for warrington road to.

[4:48:48] In terms of the ingress and

[4:48:53] egress as it compares to 28

[4:48:54] because the applicant made any

[4:49:00] commitments to use the 28

[4:49:01] ingress egress as opposed to

[4:49:05] carriage road?

[4:49:05] >> not to my knowledge they

[4:49:11] proffer access on their gdp and

[4:49:12] they have right-of-way

[4:49:15] dedication they are going to be

[4:49:15] providing a 20 foot

[4:49:18] right-of-way at no cost to

[4:49:21] prince william county

[4:49:21] .

[4:49:25] But in terms of proffering to

[4:49:26] only of trucks go in and out

[4:49:27] the other route 28

[4:49:29] intersection, to my knowledge

[4:49:35] there is no discussion and I

[4:49:36] don't believe that was

[4:49:37] discussed by our transportation

[4:49:38] department.

[4:49:39] >> Tom Gordy: do we know what

[4:49:40] the transportation counts look

[4:49:43] like

[4:49:46] ?

[4:49:49] >> I think we do have it 62

[4:49:56] daily trips.

[4:49:57] >> Tom Gordy: that is all I

[4:49:57] have for now.

[4:49:58] >> Chair Deshundra: I want to

[4:49:59] jump in because one of the

[4:50:00] questions I've gotten is why is

[4:50:03] there no cpa for this

[4:50:07] application?

[4:50:08] >> that decision was made

[4:50:09] before I inherited this case

[4:50:14] and I would like to send it to

[4:50:20] MR. Mcgettigan to explain the

[4:50:21] >> david Mcgettigan from the

[4:50:24] planning office

[4:50:24] .

[4:50:36] Harrison is a tall guy.

[4:50:40] When we came with the

[4:50:41] long-range land-use

[4:50:45] classification

[4:50:45] , it was

[4:50:46] recognized that the time and we

[4:50:51] had the board initiate zoning

[4:50:52] text amendment to look at the

[4:50:54] zoning to better match zoning

[4:51:06] with the intent of the eye to.

[4:51:07] That is included in the zoning

[4:51:08] ordinance that we are going to

[4:51:11] provide that zoning ordinance

[4:51:11] .

[4:51:13] As an interim use the mount

[4:51:19] dora storage is a perfect

[4:51:20] land-use out here.

[4:51:26] It is lower intensity.

[4:51:27] It doesn't have a law that

[4:51:30] buildings and impacts to water

[4:51:36] and sewer infrastructure.

[4:51:37] This is the sort of use we are

[4:51:38] wanting but it is not allowed

[4:51:44] in the district and we are only

[4:51:45] limited to that when you're

[4:51:46] putting together the chart to

[4:51:56] what zoning districts much.

[4:51:57] We wanted something else and

[4:51:58] that's what we had the board

[4:51:59] initiate the text amendment and

[4:52:00] at the same time they approved

[4:52:00] the

[4:52:04] competency plan.

[4:52:05] How we are handling it is use

[4:52:13] the use of proffering out what

[4:52:17] we intend them to do through

[4:52:19] the rezoning.

[4:52:25] That is why this is the path to

[4:52:29] implement a comprehensive plan

[4:52:30] the conference a plan amendment

[4:52:33] isn't necessary

[4:52:33] .

[4:52:38] This is not going, we wouldn't

[4:52:40] want to change it away

[4:52:40] .

[4:52:42] It's what we want their

[4:52:46] .

[4:52:47] That's why we want a low fa are

[4:52:48] in here.

[4:52:57] No data centers recommended

[4:52:58] .

[4:52:59] We don't want data centers out

[4:52:59] here.

[4:53:06] The kind of use we want, the

[4:53:07] kind of use we want under our

[4:53:08] current zoning ordinance that

[4:53:12] best matches

[4:53:12] .

[4:53:13] We don't want to change the

[4:53:13] comprehensive plan.

[4:53:14] His is

[4:53:15] implementing the comprehensive

[4:53:22] plan we are just having to do

[4:53:22] it with the old zoning

[4:53:23] ordinance to meet the

[4:53:29] comprehensive plan requirements

[4:53:29] .

[4:53:30] >> Chair Deshundra: are you

[4:53:31] concerned at all about setting

[4:53:32] precedents or is this something

[4:53:33] that you think in future land

[4:53:34] use cases you MAY be waving

[4:53:38] that with what is envisioned in

[4:53:39] the comprehensive plan.

[4:53:47] >> I think the way that they

[4:53:48] proffer the uses and that they

[4:53:48] sort of met the intent

[4:53:49] .

[4:53:50] I don't think it would set a

[4:53:53] precedent until it MAY be

[4:53:58] something that occurs between

[4:53:59] now and when we fix the

[4:54:01] industrial zoning district.

[4:54:01] But once we get the zoning

[4:54:07] district fix

[4:54:07] , there shouldn't

[4:54:10] be any more need to do this

[4:54:10] .

[4:54:11] >> Chair Deshundra: so it is a

[4:54:13] one off?

[4:54:13] Supervisor boddye.

[4:54:15] >> Kenny Boddye: go into follow

[4:54:19] the same beat thank you dave or

[4:54:22] how you described that.

[4:54:23] I will restate my question to

[4:54:29] what you just said.

[4:54:29] You are looking at

[4:54:30] compatibility coming to you

[4:54:31] only look at use or did you

[4:54:31] look at a wider variety of

[4:54:39] factors

[4:54:40] >> we do have recommendations

[4:54:41] and therefore zoning districts

[4:54:46] that would they be compatible

[4:54:47] but we are working with an old

[4:54:48] zoning ordinance on new ideas

[4:54:49] and the comprehensive plan.

[4:54:52] Hat is an imperfect match we

[4:54:55] had to make at the time.

[4:54:56] We look at other things and

[4:55:00] they are including very

[4:55:03] importantly the height of the

[4:55:04] fa are the transect in the

[4:55:09] conference a plan they have a

[4:55:10] low fa are in height

[4:55:15] requirement.

[4:55:15] >> to your point as harrison

[4:55:16] said, there was a decision

[4:55:17] point whither should we go with

[4:55:22] the cp or should we not based

[4:55:23] on what the vision was of not

[4:55:26] only the board but you were

[4:55:27] planning commissioner of the

[4:55:30] time

[4:55:30] .

[4:55:31] the thought of what this would

[4:55:31] be.

[4:55:37] Like you just said, the

[4:55:38] decision was this what I want

[4:55:42] to be a comp plan because that

[4:55:43] goes against the lighter

[4:55:47] industrial envisioned by the

[4:55:47] planning commission and the

[4:55:51] board when you adopted the comp

[4:55:55] plan.

[4:55:56] Wanted to ask christina

[4:56:03] .

[4:56:04] If christina wanted to add

[4:56:05] anything.

[4:56:09] MR. Stewart spoke to the high

[4:56:10] points with economic need and

[4:56:15] to the point on the fact that

[4:56:16] these types the yards were you

[4:56:17] have contractors and other

[4:56:20] businesses that don't have

[4:56:21] places to go in the county.

[4:56:21] And you.

[4:56:26] > Kenny Boddye: that?

[4:56:27] >> absolutely.

[4:56:28] Christina, director of economic

[4:56:32] development and tourism.

[4:56:33] This is exactly the type of

[4:56:35] project and use we are

[4:56:41] desperately in need of.

[4:56:43] We are getting inquiries and

[4:56:44] leads from small contractor

[4:56:48] businesses that need the

[4:56:49] outdoor storage and it is very

[4:56:52] challenging to find them a

[4:56:53] saint affordable.

[4:56:55] It was great speaking with

[4:56:58] elder and his family because

[4:57:02] one of the things is to

[4:57:03] understand as a small business

[4:57:12] owner,

[4:57:13] , they are always looking

[4:57:14] for land to purchase because if

[4:57:15] they are going to invest in the

[4:57:21] site they will the surety that

[4:57:22] if they make the investment 10

[4:57:23] years from now it's not going

[4:57:24] to flip over the owner is going

[4:57:26] to sell to a data center and so

[4:57:27] the fact that this is proffered

[4:57:28] out data centers and this is a

[4:57:35] lease opportunity pick another

[4:57:36] challenge with the small

[4:57:36] business owners is having the

[4:57:39] capital to buy the land for

[4:57:44] this makes it ideal for other

[4:57:45] businesses to co-locate and

[4:57:49] grow their business in scale

[4:57:49] .

[4:57:53] I appreciate the applicant is

[4:57:54] making adjacent properties

[4:57:59] available to give this were to

[4:58:00] go through would be able to

[4:58:02] send potential applicants

[4:58:03] .

[4:58:03] >> Kenny Boddye: I have one

[4:58:04] minute 15 left.

[4:58:06] I appreciate you saying that.

[4:58:08] That's the other part

[4:58:09] .

[4:58:10] He is not just doing this

[4:58:11] .

[4:58:14] Is also putting up land for

[4:58:14] other contractors and

[4:58:19] businesses to move in and start

[4:58:20] the first time being able to

[4:58:20] lease a space versus having to

[4:58:23] the point workers trying to

[4:58:28] find helter-skelter places

[4:58:29] throughout the county to store

[4:58:30] their stuff and small storage

[4:58:31] containers and things like

[4:58:36] that.

[4:58:37] Can you talk about thought of

[4:58:38] what that looks like in the

[4:58:39] future if you are able to use

[4:58:42] that in the model?

[4:58:42] >> you said it.

[4:58:43] It is an opportunity for them

[4:58:45] to have the look in the way of

[4:58:47] the older has described it

[4:58:48] think they are using it for the

[4:58:51] storage so they can get more

[4:58:54] business and scale

[4:59:00] .

[4:59:00] We understand a lot of the

[4:59:03] folks storing it other house or

[4:59:10] in storage units having a

[4:59:11] legitimate appropriate land-use

[4:59:14] where they can utilize the site

[4:59:15] and as the business grows and

[4:59:19] skills they cannot operational

[4:59:24] headquarters on site and it

[4:59:25] becomes a model that could be

[4:59:30] replicated to other areas

[4:59:30] .

[4:59:33] >> Andrea Bailey: thank you for

[4:59:34] questioning

[4:59:36] .

[4:59:36] Harrison

[4:59:43] , great job.

[4:59:44] He ran away

[4:59:55] .

[4:59:56] This is a great project and I

[4:59:57] say that from a perspective

[5:00:00] give.

[5:00:01] It shows us they are growing

[5:00:05] and moving pickets

[5:00:06] diversification with land's,

[5:00:11] tax base and small business.

[5:00:11] You can't get any better than

[5:00:12] that.

[5:00:15] Away they navigated harrison

[5:00:15] was

[5:00:22] perfect.

[5:00:25] Like the standpoint of you took

[5:00:30] away the big bear in the big

[5:00:38] bear, you know what it was.

[5:00:39] We don't have to worry about

[5:00:39] that.

[5:00:42] You took that out our toolbox

[5:00:42] so you can make a wholesome

[5:00:43] decision.

[5:00:46] When you came in and

[5:00:48] talked about this was it a year

[5:00:52] and half ago?

[5:00:57] Explaining to our communities

[5:00:58] the way they lead this out for

[5:01:02] us and now you worked with us

[5:01:03] not for your own game but where

[5:01:06] you live is critical.

[5:01:07] So christina

[5:01:13] , proud economic

[5:01:13] development are working

[5:01:14] together because that is the

[5:01:18] collaboration we need to see

[5:01:18] .

[5:01:20] It's a win-win and it is not

[5:01:26] perfect but it is good.

[5:01:28] Want to complement you by how

[5:01:30] you work through apricot you

[5:01:33] use the tool we created that

[5:01:34] gives us a sense of comfort

[5:01:39] .

[5:01:40] >> I could not have done it

[5:01:41] without the rest of management

[5:01:43] behind me.

[5:01:44] Not only did they hire me but

[5:01:45] then great experience

[5:01:50] .

[5:01:51] >> Chair Deshundra: that's a

[5:01:56] very good answer.

[5:01:57] >> I am still on probation

[5:02:03] technically.

[5:02:04] >> Chair Deshundra: there are

[5:02:05] no more questions in q. I'm

[5:02:06] going to go ahead.

[5:02:06] I have all these papers on my

[5:02:08] desk

[5:02:09] .

[5:02:10] I will call people up for the

[5:02:11] public hearing.

[5:02:12] For those of you who have not

[5:02:14] done this before

[5:02:15] , I'm going to

[5:02:18] start with the people on this

[5:02:19] page and then we will go to

[5:02:20] virtual and then I will go bask

[5:02:22] in ask the applicant and co. To

[5:02:29] address any questions raised.

[5:02:30] In three minutes except if you

[5:02:30] are an organization of

[5:02:34] 501(C)(3) You get five minutes.

[5:02:35] You will see the screen up

[5:02:35] there.

[5:02:36] That's the count down but make

[5:02:39] sure you adjust the microphone

[5:02:44] quickly say your name the

[5:02:45] magisterial district where you

[5:02:47] reside.

[5:02:50] I see someone signed up to.

[5:02:58] 14 b has been deferred.

[5:02:59] >> part of the reason any of

[5:03:00] the gdp in front of you is

[5:03:01] there was an update

[5:03:01] .

[5:03:03] Would you like to say with

[5:03:08] updates were real quick?

[5:03:09] This is meant to be stated

[5:03:11] earlier and we apologize.

[5:03:19] >> there is a slight revision

[5:03:23] to relabel the yard sites or to

[5:03:24] make it more clear what is

[5:03:30] allowed to be done there.

[5:03:31] Elder informed us a lot at

[5:03:32] times when he is building a

[5:03:33] chimney, and outdoor chimney

[5:03:37] needs a sheet metal sleeve and

[5:03:39] so you would like to do that on

[5:03:42] the property rather than inside

[5:03:47] a neighborhood.

[5:03:47] And so we want to remove that

[5:03:48] from the prohibited list

[5:03:50] pickett's sheet metal

[5:03:55] fabrication that's the only

[5:03:56] change to the proffer

[5:04:00] statement.

[5:04:03] >> staff did read over that and

[5:04:04] we send that over to the board

[5:04:08] clerks as well.

[5:04:10] I believe it is in my office

[5:04:14] .

[5:04:15] >> for future reference that

[5:04:20] would be great to get changes

[5:04:21] well before the date of the

[5:04:23] meeting.

[5:04:23] Some people are working on

[5:04:26] stuff of the last minute

[5:04:27] pickett would be great if we

[5:04:30] got the changes with the said

[5:04:30] ,

[5:04:31] I'm going to move to the public

[5:04:36] hearing.

[5:04:37] I normally call it in groups of

[5:04:38] five but we only have four so

[5:04:41] that is easy.

[5:04:45] Travis plummer, susan, marianne

[5:04:46] we are going to be doing a town

[5:04:52] hall and melody miller.

[5:04:53] Those four people.

[5:04:54] Travis plummer, marianne and

[5:05:01] melody.

[5:05:02] Please adjust the microphone

[5:05:03] because I know I will not be

[5:05:03] able to hear you

[5:05:06] .

[5:05:07] If we can have quiet on the

[5:05:10] dais start by saying the name,

[5:05:14] were you reside and -- let's

[5:05:17] go.

[5:05:19] >> my name is susan.

[5:05:20] i live around the corner of the

[5:05:21] property

[5:05:25] .

[5:05:26] The discussion we had here

[5:05:32] tonight was interesting and

[5:05:38] informative and interactive.

[5:05:38] And I appreciate the

[5:05:43] opportunity to the residential

[5:05:46] community response

[5:05:46] .

[5:05:49] Some of the things in the

[5:05:54] characterizations of the area.

[5:05:56] And is an agricultural area

[5:05:56] .

[5:05:58] These are families, these are

[5:06:00] small farms

[5:06:02] , livestock.

[5:06:07] We have already the public

[5:06:08] safety academy.

[5:06:09] We have fire trucks and police

[5:06:10] and everyone coming back and

[5:06:10] forth

[5:06:11] .

[5:06:13] It is quite a busy road.

[5:06:17] You will see a nice tractor

[5:06:17] because they've gone into the

[5:06:20] ditch to get out of the way the

[5:06:20] fire truck.

[5:06:24] It is barely a 2

[5:06:25] lane rd.

[5:06:26] T has no lane

[5:06:30] markers because I will could be

[5:06:33] extreme.

[5:06:36] It has no shoulder

[5:06:36] .

[5:06:40] There is no margin or nothing

[5:06:40] there.

[5:06:42] This is an area that has

[5:06:44] virtually no infrastructure.

[5:06:46] We live with the wells

[5:06:46] .

[5:06:50] We have small country roads

[5:06:50] .

[5:06:52] The road itself where the

[5:06:57] applicant property is stated a

[5:07:00] gravel road.

[5:07:05] It leads to 28 the 28th side

[5:07:05] there is significant

[5:07:08] development there is massive

[5:07:09] construction on the side which

[5:07:15] would push traffic back as well

[5:07:19] and so I would ask for

[5:07:20] consideration there needs to be

[5:07:22] infrastructure supporting and

[5:07:26] on the other things happening

[5:07:26] .

[5:07:27] There needs to be enhancements

[5:07:33] to make this livable so we can

[5:07:34] maintain our investment in the

[5:07:35] growth we put into our

[5:07:36] properties at the same time.

[5:07:37] Thank you very much.

[5:07:40] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you

[5:07:40] so much.

[5:07:43] Next speaker, please.

[5:07:53] >> my name is travis plummer.

[5:07:54] Warrington road is a gravel

[5:07:54] road.

[5:07:57] We have the county putting

[5:08:00] gravel on an overtime

[5:08:00] .

[5:08:04] Outing heavy equipment 60 two

[5:08:05] trips a day would add an

[5:08:07] additional burden to it.

[5:08:08] With them about the waited for

[5:08:10] the patient place program.

[5:08:11] The ditches don't meet the

[5:08:15] requirements so that's not a

[5:08:16] possibility and of the heavy

[5:08:18] equipment traffic regardless if

[5:08:21] you are traveling for half a

[5:08:28] mile to the paved interface to

[5:08:28] get up to 28.

[5:08:29] It is a well-worn road

[5:08:34] .

[5:08:41] It is rural farmland.

[5:08:42] Were you thinking MAY meet the

[5:08:43] intent of it by proffering

[5:08:43] out

[5:08:48] the things.

[5:08:49] Leave the committee has been

[5:08:55] working on this to meet the

[5:08:55] intent of, why is that in

[5:08:56] place.

[5:08:57] There are challenges with that

[5:08:59] and so going alternate route to

[5:09:04] meet the intent to commit seems

[5:09:05] like what you said setting a

[5:09:08] precedent of going to the m1,

[5:09:09] m2 level

[5:09:11] .

[5:09:16] We had to fix our language

[5:09:16] .

[5:09:17] Readdress this.

[5:09:18] I recommend deferring or

[5:09:18] denying

[5:09:26] .

[5:09:28] >> my name is mary ann.

[5:09:40] And princeville district.

[5:09:41] Wasn't certain what I wanted to

[5:09:43] say this evening because what I

[5:09:45] would like to say would be

[5:09:46] considered inappropriate and

[5:09:53] disrespectful

[5:09:54] .

[5:09:55] That is a bit much considering

[5:09:55] either tom gordy, george

[5:09:56] everson were any of any respect

[5:09:57] for me, the residence and

[5:10:04] principal on more specifically

[5:10:04] noakes will.

[5:10:05] What you're proposing is not

[5:10:06] only disrespectful but

[5:10:06] irresponsible.

[5:10:07] Your constituents will be

[5:10:08] greatly harmed by voting for

[5:10:12] the application pickett will

[5:10:13] set a precedent that overrides

[5:10:14] protections to safeguard our

[5:10:15] community from unwanted

[5:10:17] disasters motivated actions

[5:10:18] that will have dire

[5:10:20] consequences for our property

[5:10:24] communities and environment

[5:10:24] .

[5:10:24] In the case of the application

[5:10:28] no plans

[5:10:28] , no encumbrance of

[5:10:29] plan amendments are being

[5:10:32] required to.

[5:10:33] Where does cory stewart get to

[5:10:34] forgo the regulation that

[5:10:41] protect us?

[5:10:42] Who's going to talk about

[5:10:43] progress industry but since it

[5:10:44] is different I won't go.

[5:10:45] And so what I'm going to say

[5:10:49] was I suspect the beneficiaries

[5:10:50] of other box members are mode

[5:10:52] invited by self-interested.

[5:10:53] The board of supervisors have

[5:10:56] blatantly disregarding the rule

[5:10:58] set in place to protect the

[5:10:59] people they swore to represent

[5:11:07] an im waiting for when the town

[5:11:08] hall will be announced because

[5:11:09] you are among the behind and we

[5:11:10] could sure use your help.

[5:11:14] Thank you.

[5:11:15] >> Chair Deshundra: next

[5:11:21] speaker, please.

[5:11:22] >> could I try elmo out for the

[5:11:27] first time if you don't mind?

[5:11:30] No worries

[5:11:31] .

[5:11:32] If you don't mind I will start

[5:11:37] talking.

[5:11:38] Can't really say that at all.

[5:11:40] That's the property on the

[5:11:41] national wetlands inventory.

[5:11:45] Sorry pick melody miller,

[5:11:48] neabsco district.

[5:11:52] I got enthusiastic for a second

[5:11:53] .

[5:11:54] On the alamo you can see the

[5:11:56] green is wetlands

[5:11:57] .

[5:12:03] The blue, these tube blue lines

[5:12:04] are intermittent streams.

[5:12:05] 2026 is record rainfall by the

[5:12:10] way.

[5:12:11] While the former supervisors to

[5:12:12] rid us of the wetlands aren't

[5:12:13] in the daunted line boundary,

[5:12:15] if you are intending to put 20

[5:12:20] acres of impervious surfaces,

[5:12:21] you are absolutely going to

[5:12:23] effect that.

[5:12:24] This board is not indicated in

[5:12:30] the willingness to deny this

[5:12:31] even though the 20/40 plan

[5:12:31] mandates preserving wetlands to

[5:12:32] the extent possible this

[5:12:35] proposal directly contradicts

[5:12:39] to give the zoning authority

[5:12:40] under 15.2.Demand substantial

[5:12:46] impact based offers

[5:12:46] .

[5:12:47] I would say starting with a

[5:12:48] hydrological study because I

[5:12:54] couldn't find anywhere actual

[5:12:55] hydrological expert who came

[5:12:56] out a look at this and said

[5:12:57] this is what the watershed

[5:12:57] impact will be.

[5:13:02] And so I would say actually

[5:13:03] talking to someone housing

[5:13:04] someone who knows how that is

[5:13:04] affected would come

[5:13:04] out to be

[5:13:07] the first step in mitigation.

[5:13:07] I will say is somebody

[5:13:09] regularly uses the fire and

[5:13:15] rescue complex and noakes will

[5:13:15] is my first do.

[5:13:16] I staff station five every

[5:13:20] single week.

[5:13:21] We don't turn our sirens on

[5:13:24] because it spooks the horses

[5:13:26] bequeath run silent at night

[5:13:27] because it spooks the residence

[5:13:27] and horses.

[5:13:29] Carriage forward is not a road

[5:13:31] for heavy industrial.

[5:13:36] Carriage forward as a lots of

[5:13:37] horses on.

[5:13:39] If you are going to build

[5:13:39] chimney sleeves, you can't

[5:13:41] mitigate that noise

[5:13:41] .

[5:13:44] That is tremendously

[5:13:45] environmentally damaging your

[5:13:53] taking down the trees but the

[5:13:54] fire department already burns a

[5:13:55] lotta stuff that we are

[5:13:56] surrounded by trees that filter

[5:13:56] a lot of that particulate out.

[5:14:00] You are not going to be able to

[5:14:01] do that if you are cutting down

[5:14:02] the trees to put a pad there

[5:14:06] for light industrial.

[5:14:07] Is he rethinking to the impacts

[5:14:08] I haven't heard anybody talk

[5:14:10] about the noise because that is

[5:14:14] not a noisy road.

[5:14:15] We operate during the business

[5:14:16] day

[5:14:19] .

[5:14:20] If you are going to take away a

[5:14:22] lot of the things that move

[5:14:27] pollutants from the air

[5:14:27] , we

[5:14:27] breathe that.

[5:14:31] We can't train for fire inside

[5:14:36] and so you have a lot of

[5:14:37] legislative options and zoning

[5:14:38] options to demand studies and

[5:14:44] look at what the impacts going

[5:14:45] to be rather than rely on the

[5:14:46] applicant when you think they

[5:14:47] are and I encourage you to use

[5:14:47] them.

[5:14:47] Thank you so much.

[5:14:49] >> Chair Deshundra: I'm going

[5:14:50] to turn to see purveyors are

[5:14:51] angrily for remote public

[5:14:51] comment time

[5:14:51] .

[5:14:52] >> Victor Angry: to be of

[5:14:55] anyone remote?

[5:15:00] >> first speaker is rachel

[5:15:00] alice.

[5:15:05] >> Victor Angry: MISS Rachel,

[5:15:07] go ahead.

[5:15:08] >> rachel alice gainesville

[5:15:08] district.

[5:15:12] I request you deny this

[5:15:12] rezoning.

[5:15:14] I received supervisors news

[5:15:18] letter.

[5:15:20] >> Chair Deshundra: can I pause

[5:15:21] you for one second?

[5:15:23] Can we turn that up?

[5:15:24] If he could speak up a little

[5:15:25] more

[5:15:28] .

[5:15:32] Thank you.

[5:15:33] >> I will try screaming louder.

[5:15:36] Today received the newsletter

[5:15:37] which was extremely timely as

[5:15:42] it contained a commissioner

[5:15:43] corner in which commissioner

[5:15:43] justice explained encumbrance

[5:15:44] of plan amendment.

[5:15:48] She stated cpa is needed when a

[5:15:51] proposed change does not align

[5:15:52] with accounting current and

[5:15:52] long-term vision for how a

[5:15:55] property should be used for

[5:15:56] this property is owned a one

[5:15:59] agriculture.

[5:16:00] Letter requesting to change it

[5:16:02] to heavy industrial.

[5:16:05] Everything is owned agriculture

[5:16:06] including the residence around

[5:16:08] the property.

[5:16:09] The comprehensive plan outlines

[5:16:15] the property is industrial use

[5:16:15] transit to come and not in that

[5:16:16] one.

[5:16:17] I consider it to be a more

[5:16:19] intensive step up regarding

[5:16:24] uses

[5:16:24] .

[5:16:25] If this proposed rezoning plan

[5:16:26] is consistent with the

[5:16:26] designation

[5:16:30] , planning, where

[5:16:31] they not just requesting.

[5:16:35] Why does it have to be in one

[5:16:37] and why is the applicant not

[5:16:40] submitting a cpa

[5:16:41] ?

[5:16:41] It does not align with the

[5:16:42] county long-term vision on how

[5:16:45] the property should be used and

[5:16:46] undermines the county planning

[5:16:47] process to allow the change

[5:16:50] without filing a cpa and it

[5:16:52] sets a precedent replications

[5:16:55] wishing to rezone them with the

[5:17:00] comprehensive plan allows all

[5:17:01] planning staff stated is eta

[5:17:01] was initiated but not finalized

[5:17:06] , cpa should then be followed

[5:17:07] for several residence spoke

[5:17:12] about how worldly area is pick

[5:17:22] my concern is I would like the

[5:17:23] language to be clarified as to

[5:17:26] what happens after they restore

[5:17:26] it.

[5:17:30] Especially as people are going

[5:17:31] to use it as an industrial road

[5:17:32] to.

[5:17:35] For me the application

[5:17:37] takes transparency and the true

[5:17:39] intent of future uses pickett

[5:17:40] reads as if he would cover a

[5:17:42] variety of uses without

[5:17:44] actually committing to the

[5:17:46] board with the uses are what

[5:17:48] possible consequences MAY have

[5:17:55] had the surrounding neighbors.

[5:17:56] They should've made to the

[5:17:57] public and I actually want to

[5:17:57] thank the residents of the

[5:18:00] community coming out to speak

[5:18:00] because without their voice

[5:18:04] deny anyone listening to the

[5:18:05] applicant of the board would

[5:18:06] think the whole area is

[5:18:09] industrial and people do not

[5:18:10] live there.

[5:18:10] I'm asking you to deny this

[5:18:11] application

[5:18:11] .

[5:18:13] Thank you

[5:18:14] .

[5:18:15] >> Victor Angry: thank you.

[5:18:21] Next speaker.

[5:18:30] >> our next speaker is alayna.

[5:18:36] >> alayna with the coalition to

[5:18:36] protect prince william county

[5:18:37] so would like five minutes,

[5:18:37] please.

[5:18:42] Might not use it all

[5:18:42] .

[5:18:43] First of all I want to thank

[5:18:46] all the wonderful resident who

[5:18:47] came out to share about what it

[5:18:49] is like living in that area.

[5:18:50] It is important understand this

[5:18:56] is not an industrialized area.

[5:18:57] There are homes and horses and

[5:18:57] it's a rural area we are still

[5:18:58] trying to have compatibility.

[5:19:01] Look

[5:19:03] , I'm not trying to be

[5:19:06] difficult although I can you my

[5:19:08] husband behind me saying you

[5:19:08] don't have to try

[5:19:08] .

[5:19:12] It happens naturally.

[5:19:13] I'm so confused because david

[5:19:17] got up and explained they are

[5:19:18] not rezoning

[5:19:19] .

[5:19:24] We are rezoning.

[5:19:25] I believe this is dangerous

[5:19:27] .

[5:19:28] I'm not opposed to this

[5:19:30] application

[5:19:30] .

[5:19:32] What I am opposed to is

[5:19:35] changing the long range ladies

[5:19:39] via what I would describe as a

[5:19:44] staff because I staff decision.

[5:19:47] Going to read the application

[5:19:52] itself.

[5:19:53] The applicant is requesting to

[5:19:57] amend the underlying used

[5:19:57] designation from a1 to m1.

[5:19:59] And the industrial the

[5:20:04] application deviates from the

[5:20:05] expectations regarding the

[5:20:08] implemented zoning district and

[5:20:09] the inclusion of a few uses

[5:20:11] only allowed in m1, however,

[5:20:13] the applicant is proffering the

[5:20:14] expectations regarding target

[5:20:16] height

[5:20:16] .

[5:20:19] As such, the proposal is

[5:20:23] consistent

[5:20:23] .

[5:20:28] It makes no sense there's not a

[5:20:31] cpa

[5:20:31] .

[5:20:34] Everything dated describes

[5:20:41] proffering should have happened

[5:20:42] .

[5:20:46] You could've done it that way

[5:20:46] .

[5:20:47] Then you would have other

[5:20:47] companion rezoning.

[5:20:52] What this

[5:20:56] does is it allows first of to

[5:20:59] make changes behind the scenes

[5:21:04] that citizens might not always

[5:21:05] catch

[5:21:09] .

[5:21:12] These are exceptions pick they

[5:21:13] are exceptions to the comp

[5:21:18] plan.

[5:21:19] We need a long range land use

[5:21:20] designation not in the comp

[5:21:21] plan that you would like the

[5:21:23] way you do it is you initiate a

[5:21:26] conference plan amendment they

[5:21:29] companion rezoning

[5:21:29] .

[5:21:30] I would like someone from staff

[5:21:34] to explain why they did not

[5:21:34] just to do that with the

[5:21:37] associated proffers.

[5:21:39] You can proffer everything else

[5:21:47] not you would like m1.

[5:21:50] It was more confusing pickett

[5:21:52] is being rezoned

[5:21:55] .

[5:21:57] What else do I have to say look

[5:22:03] , I sent you my email become

[5:22:03] reading from the comprehensive

[5:22:04] plan consistency long range

[5:22:10] land use plan consistency.

[5:22:11] We have guard rails for a

[5:22:15] reason everybody has to plan

[5:22:15] .

[5:22:17] If you want a rezoning to land

[5:22:19] use resignation not on the comp

[5:22:26] plan you have to do a cpa.

[5:22:29] The applicant because cory

[5:22:31] knows

[5:22:35] .

[5:22:36] If you are changing the long

[5:22:40] range land use designation to a

[5:22:42] different use, if to change the

[5:22:43] comprehensive plan.

[5:22:47] I would like someone to explain

[5:22:50] why they didn't just do that.

[5:22:51] Sets a terrible precedent

[5:22:54] .

[5:22:57] And setup for abuse in the

[5:23:01] future and I think this board

[5:23:05] cannot afford to allow these

[5:23:05] inconsistencies.

[5:23:08] It is like saying long range

[5:23:12] land uses residential.

[5:23:16] Milledge, hamlet, rn, r4, r 12.

[5:23:17] It's all the same comments just

[5:23:20] residential.

[5:23:20] He would allow an applicant to

[5:23:22] come in

[5:23:22] .

[5:23:25] Let's say it confirmation

[5:23:31] residential.

[5:23:37] Just give us our four.

[5:23:37] Think you should deny it or

[5:23:41] defer it become the applicant

[5:23:42] come back and do it the right

[5:23:45] way with the cpa and companion

[5:23:45] rezoning and then you would

[5:23:51] have less pushback.

[5:24:01] >> our next speaker is vita.

[5:24:07] >> vita carol rental district.

[5:24:07] I support outdoor storage

[5:24:11] materials here

[5:24:11] .

[5:24:12] 11 the business holder to

[5:24:13] support outdoor storage is well

[5:24:16] within its property rights and

[5:24:23] it makes sense for this parcel

[5:24:24] of what I am having a hard time

[5:24:24] with and what doesn't make

[5:24:27] sense is allowing a rezoning to

[5:24:33] take place think it is

[5:24:34] reasonable to residence expect

[5:24:35] developers in the county on the

[5:24:37] county itself develop lending

[5:24:38] procedures set in place which

[5:24:43] is the cpa process and comp

[5:24:43] plan.

[5:24:44] A special exception for any

[5:24:47] applicant for any project

[5:24:50] rightfully raises eyebrows

[5:24:51] because this applicant

[5:24:52] receiving special treatment

[5:24:53] because their legal team is a

[5:24:54] former county chair?

[5:24:55] If the county wants to allow

[5:24:58] outdoor storage

[5:24:59] , the county has

[5:25:02] the ability to initiate a

[5:25:03] county text amendment to do

[5:25:03] that.

[5:25:04] Bypassing the protection set in

[5:25:07] place and zoning ordinance

[5:25:10] undermines our comp plan and

[5:25:14] undermines the integrity of the

[5:25:15] process and undermines the

[5:25:16] community that you all claim to

[5:25:16] serve.

[5:25:18] I appreciate the

[5:25:20] applicant proffering out data

[5:25:21] centers

[5:25:22] .

[5:25:24] You know what else the

[5:25:27] community doesn't want?

[5:25:28] A concrete plant in the

[5:25:34] applicant has not been honest

[5:25:34] that it is exactly the

[5:25:35] long-term intention for this

[5:25:36] parcel

[5:25:39] .

[5:25:40] In an act of good faith the

[5:25:41] applicant should proffer out a

[5:25:46] concrete plant.

[5:25:47] They should put it in as an

[5:25:48] unpermitted use like they've

[5:25:49] done for data centers on the

[5:25:51] applicant in the act good faith

[5:25:52] should remove the height

[5:25:54] allowance to further prevent

[5:25:58] any loophole that could allow

[5:25:58] for a tower or a silo in the

[5:25:59] future.

[5:26:01] Esidents no longer

[5:26:02] expect the board to do the

[5:26:08] right thing we expect the board

[5:26:09] to do the wrong thing and it

[5:26:09] feels pointless to be wasting

[5:26:10] our time speaking and I think

[5:26:12] that is why there 75% less

[5:26:15] speakers tonight than there

[5:26:17] were at planning commission.

[5:26:26] This community deserves

[5:26:26] transparency.

[5:26:27] We deserve transparency from

[5:26:28] the board of proper planning

[5:26:29] procedure and if a concrete

[5:26:31] plant is being discussed

[5:26:31] ,

[5:26:32] residents and neighbors should

[5:26:34] know that.

[5:26:34] That should be in the

[5:26:36] application and it is not.

[5:26:42] This board is three ethical

[5:26:43] choices per deny the rezoning,

[5:26:47] defer until a cpa submitted

[5:26:48] consider rezoning to an sep for

[5:26:49] outdoor storage.

[5:26:50] Thank you very much.

[5:26:51] >> Victor Angry: next speaker.

[5:26:57] >> our next speaker is jessica

[5:26:58] grove.

[5:26:59] >> Victor Angry: go ahead.

[5:27:01] >> Public Speaker: jessica

[5:27:02] grove from the gainesville

[5:27:09] district.

[5:27:09] i would like to thank the board

[5:27:10] for recognizing that burnsville

[5:27:12] soccer team first.

[5:27:13] And appreciate the recognition

[5:27:14] for all of the hard work.

[5:27:16] Second of all

[5:27:22] , I don't disagree

[5:27:23] this would be a suitable place

[5:27:31] for outdoor storage the problem

[5:27:39] that I have is not doing a cpa

[5:27:40] on the applicant them if they

[5:27:41] knew they were going to be

[5:27:44] wanting a cement plant they

[5:27:45] should a start about purchasing

[5:27:46] a piece of property that would

[5:27:47] allow for the work on the belt

[5:27:48] this the right way

[5:27:52] .

[5:27:53] In the planning commission one

[5:27:56] of the first things as we are

[5:27:56] not going to talk about a

[5:28:01] cement plant tonight.

[5:28:06] That is very indicative of

[5:28:07] hiding what the true purpose of

[5:28:07] this for.

[5:28:11] I agree that should absolutely

[5:28:12] be proffered out that it is not

[5:28:16] an allowed use for this

[5:28:16] property.

[5:28:18] If that is the plan, which

[5:28:20] obviously it is if that's the

[5:28:23] first thing they bring up and

[5:28:26] it is also showing up tonight

[5:28:28] with no notice for the

[5:28:31] neighbors who live there

[5:28:36] .

[5:28:37] I also think it's indicative

[5:28:38] that nobody brought up anything

[5:28:39] about the residents that live

[5:28:41] nearby

[5:28:41] .

[5:28:45] When cory stewart talked about

[5:28:46] the surrounding areas he was

[5:28:46] dismissive about who lives

[5:28:51] there one resident is this is

[5:28:52] basically a dog kennel

[5:28:56] .

[5:28:57] Was a people who live there.

[5:29:01] That they family.

[5:29:01] There are horses, farms, we are

[5:29:04] all community.

[5:29:05] You need to be listening to the

[5:29:08] residence in this needs to be

[5:29:12] gone about the right way

[5:29:12] through cpa and that is not

[5:29:18] been addressed

[5:29:18] .

[5:29:19] I am afraid that if you do this

[5:29:19] tonight it shows the many

[5:29:21] developers coming forward to

[5:29:24] change anyone they want in the

[5:29:27] county.

[5:29:27] I don't know who would want to

[5:29:30] move to western prince william

[5:29:32] county when I have zero faith

[5:29:35] what is in the comp plan will

[5:29:36] stay.

[5:29:37] You should be following the

[5:29:43] comp plan as it is because that

[5:29:44] is what holds us to a standard

[5:29:46] for our quality of life.

[5:29:46] And if you keep taking them

[5:29:50] away

[5:29:51] , nobody will want to live

[5:29:52] here anymore.

[5:29:55] Thank you very much

[5:29:55] .

[5:29:56] >> Victor Angry: next speaker,

[5:29:57] please.

[5:30:02] >> the next speaker is chris

[5:30:02] grove.

[5:30:03] >> Victor Angry: go ahead.

[5:30:04] >> Public Speaker: chris grove

[5:30:05] gainesville district hanging

[5:30:07] out on the principal district

[5:30:08] for football tonight so pardon

[5:30:13] my location.

[5:30:16] I would like to go

[5:30:19] .

[5:30:23] Using the parcel long good for

[5:30:23] that.

[5:30:35] The real problem setting

[5:30:36] a precedent I'm not going

[5:30:39] through a cpa and doing it

[5:30:43] around for the property.

[5:30:44] If we are continuing to hollow

[5:30:55] out the 2030 comp plan pushing

[5:30:56] cpas that don't align with what

[5:30:56] we set forth in the comp plan,

[5:30:59] it's a bad precedent to set and

[5:31:00] it is a bad message to

[5:31:02] overdevelopment were

[5:31:03] development in the wrong areas

[5:31:09] of the county.

[5:31:10] I am concerned because one of

[5:31:11] the parties of this application

[5:31:13] is doing similar in the

[5:31:15] gainesville district where they

[5:31:20] might be doing it the cpa but

[5:31:21] they are pushing for

[5:31:21] development outside the 20/40

[5:31:26] comp plan.

[5:31:27] There are multiple levels

[5:31:28] raising alarms

[5:31:31] .

[5:31:31] I don't think that the board

[5:31:32] should move forward as is.

[5:31:34] It

[5:31:34] either needs to be deferred or

[5:31:36] denied.

[5:31:38] If we have to fix the comp

[5:31:45] plan, fix the zoning ordinance,

[5:31:46] do it the right way but don't

[5:31:47] do the end around for this.

[5:31:48] Thank you.

[5:31:51] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you.

[5:31:59] Next speaker, please.

[5:32:01] >> I'm sorry.

[5:32:02] We have no more speakers.

[5:32:07] >> Victor Angry: thanks chris.

[5:32:08] Back to you.

[5:32:09] >> Chair Deshundra: thank you

[5:32:10] so very much.

[5:32:11] We finally got the updated

[5:32:14] proffer statement

[5:32:14] , which I have

[5:32:15] been trying to compare against

[5:32:18] lost one to see what changes

[5:32:23] have been made

[5:32:23] .

[5:32:24] I want to see if the applicant

[5:32:25] wants to respond any of the

[5:32:34] comments you heard.

[5:32:35] Speak I would be happy to

[5:32:35] respond to any questions you

[5:32:36] have concerning that.

[5:32:43] We did make clear any future

[5:32:47] concrete facility smallbatch

[5:32:48] concrete plant requires sep

[5:32:50] approval.

[5:32:59] by this board.

[5:33:00] >> Chair Deshundra: it is not

[5:33:00] the intent to at some point

[5:33:01] have a concrete plant?

[5:33:02] > it's possible in the

[5:33:03] future elder would need to do

[5:33:04] that.

[5:33:05] Again explained that if you

[5:33:10] would like to explain that

[5:33:10] more.

[5:33:11] MR. Ramos, if you wouldn't mind

[5:33:15] coming forward.

[5:33:19] >> to enter the question,

[5:33:19] eventually to have a concrete

[5:33:24] plant you would have the vote

[5:33:24] to do so.

[5:33:25] It's not something I'm able to

[5:33:31] do by right through this

[5:33:32] process current fleet.

[5:33:33] And part of the challenges for

[5:33:34] small business to obtain

[5:33:38] concrete is not big enough to

[5:33:39] get it directly at the right

[5:33:44] times for our customers.

[5:33:45] I have it on my schedule for

[5:33:45] tuesday.

[5:33:49] The weather is not good and so

[5:33:50] we canceled the concrete but I

[5:33:51] might reschedule

[5:33:51] .

[5:33:55] I am about three weeks out so I

[5:33:58] can't run a business that way

[5:33:59] .

[5:34:06] Be 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock agree a

[5:34:06] divine her own way to service

[5:34:07] our customers.

[5:34:07] And so that is

[5:34:10] , I would love to

[5:34:12] have an idea concrete so I can

[5:34:19] do my own jobs.

[5:34:20] >> Chair Deshundra: how much

[5:34:25] would you be producing?

[5:34:30] >> we can pour 3 to 4 patios a

[5:34:33] week

[5:34:33] .

[5:34:34] That would be 40 yards

[5:34:36] .

[5:34:37] 40 yards a concrete

[5:34:42] .

[5:34:43] >> Chair Deshundra: if you can

[5:34:46] step back.

[5:34:47] I am trying to look at the old

[5:34:49] proffer statement looking at

[5:34:53] what I was giving us.

[5:34:54] Dated JULY 15

[5:35:01] .

[5:35:02] You said you are adding any use

[5:35:02] here

[5:35:06] .

[5:35:10] >> the data is updated and take

[5:35:14] a look at the next-to-last

[5:35:19] it refers to the gdp dated

[5:35:20] AUGUST 24 and the only

[5:35:24] difference between that gdp and

[5:35:26] the one in your packet, it is

[5:35:33] just relabeling on the gdp

[5:35:33] .

[5:35:34] To be clear what it is allowed

[5:35:36] and we added the language that

[5:35:38] said and any other use is

[5:35:41] allowed

[5:35:41] .

[5:35:47] That is that

[5:35:47] .

[5:35:48] If you take a look under the

[5:35:52] property uses

[5:35:53] , goes through 80

[5:35:53] of them.

[5:35:54] Originally there were 81

[5:35:59] prohibited

[5:35:59] .

[5:36:00] It was fabrication of

[5:36:01] sheet-metal and that is been

[5:36:06] removed from the prohibited

[5:36:06] uses and that is the extent of

[5:36:07] the changes

[5:36:10] .

[5:36:11] >> Chair Deshundra: I believe

[5:36:14] that was a discussion I had

[5:36:14] .

[5:36:17] Can you explain or about

[5:36:18] fabrication.

[5:36:19] What is it I want to do on the

[5:36:21] scene

[5:36:28] .

[5:36:29] >> I might bring a backup he is

[5:36:29] the professional

[5:36:32] .

[5:36:33] >> to give a quick explanation

[5:36:36] why we need to fabricate the

[5:36:39] metal is to give technical data

[5:36:40] day in my world.

[5:36:42] When someone hires me to build

[5:36:45] an outdoor fireplace

[5:36:45] , he wanted

[5:36:47] to be a wood burning fireplace

[5:36:48] .

[5:36:51] I also have inspectors to meet

[5:36:55] with the county inspectors pick

[5:36:55] one of the inspections is to

[5:36:56] make sure that the fireplace is

[5:36:57] not combustible so I had to

[5:36:58] make it out of the metal

[5:37:02] .

[5:37:03] We will create everything out

[5:37:08] of a 2 x 4 metal frame it it's

[5:37:17] already premade.

[5:37:20] Which could bother the

[5:37:21] neighbors and make him a

[5:37:22] .

[5:37:26] In addition to that we need

[5:37:28] them for the outdoor kitchens

[5:37:30] .

[5:37:34] Also do it for those items

[5:37:34] .

[5:37:35] >> Chair Deshundra: I did not

[5:37:37] familiar with sheet-metal

[5:37:37] .

[5:37:38] And their environmental

[5:37:42] concerns?

[5:37:43] >> on buying the metal and

[5:37:51] bending it the way we need to

[5:37:51] .

[5:37:52] >> Yesli Vega: if he could stay

[5:37:55] there because you're the one I

[5:37:56] want to elaborate and expand

[5:37:57] more.

[5:37:58] Thank you for coming to my

[5:38:03] office we were able to go over

[5:38:03] the questions and concerns

[5:38:12] raised in how you made right in

[5:38:13] and undermine the colleagues

[5:38:13] were talking about a small

[5:38:18] business for us to not confuse

[5:38:21] things or to MISS Lead

[5:38:21] .

[5:38:22] When you are in my office I did

[5:38:30] ask you to explain to me the

[5:38:30] guy wouldn't even call it a

[5:38:31] plan because the way you

[5:38:35] explained it to me was maybe a

[5:38:37] concrete truck loaded

[5:38:38] .

[5:38:42] Another thing was is it safe to

[5:38:43] say if the weld to a certain

[5:38:47] extent?

[5:38:48] We don't want anybody welding

[5:38:49] outside the garage.

[5:38:51] But to be

[5:38:52] fair to say that your work

[5:38:53] involves that somebody is

[5:38:57] asking for a custom kitchen and

[5:38:58] you need metal framing.

[5:38:59] S

[5:38:59] that the type of work you are

[5:39:00] doing?

[5:39:01] >> yes, ma'am

[5:39:01] .

[5:39:02] >> Yesli Vega: I think the

[5:39:02] facts are important.

[5:39:06] We are at a point where

[5:39:07] land-use can be in emotionally

[5:39:08] charged issue but I don't want

[5:39:13] to lose sight of your business

[5:39:14] and what exactly you are asking

[5:39:17] of the board here tonight

[5:39:17] .

[5:39:18] Thank you for elaborating on

[5:39:22] those two items.

[5:39:25] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[5:39:27] stuart?

[5:39:28] >> George Stewart: this

[5:39:33] question is also for elder.

[5:39:35] When it comes to sheet metal

[5:39:37] fabrication you say you don't

[5:39:38] necessarily want to do that on

[5:39:41] site

[5:39:41] .

[5:39:43] How loud is that?

[5:39:47] Would it disturb the neighbors

[5:39:48] where your facility would be

[5:39:51] located?

[5:39:54] >> it is nearly 24 acres in the

[5:40:00] area around me as I trained

[5:40:01] facility and the other is 15

[5:40:01] acres away

[5:40:05] .

[5:40:08] Is probably children and people

[5:40:08] .

[5:40:11] It is a lot more limited

[5:40:14] .

[5:40:15] If I am working there was

[5:40:23] nobody.

[5:40:25] >> George Stewart: I'm sorry,

[5:40:31] go ahead.

[5:40:32] >> part of what you were saying

[5:40:33] is that is not only the thing

[5:40:35] that we do.

[5:40:36] How to buy 10 jobs we might

[5:40:39] need a fireplace.

[5:40:40] Every customer has a different

[5:40:48] needs and not everybody is

[5:40:49] getting the fireplace on

[5:40:50] outdoor kitchens and all those

[5:40:51] things but we are being upfront

[5:40:53] on what we do and so I don't

[5:40:54] want to be looking over my

[5:40:55] shoulder doing something

[5:40:55] illegal and they be like you

[5:40:58] should've told us we are being

[5:41:03] upfront to maximize orlando me

[5:41:08] truthful.

[5:41:11] >> you said 40 yards a week

[5:41:16] .

[5:41:16] I know that we are not at the

[5:41:17] spot yet but I'm thinking

[5:41:21] forward.

[5:41:22] Limit? Yards does a typical

[5:41:26] concrete truck hold?

[5:41:27] >> three different

[5:41:31] measurements.

[5:41:33] You can get an already mixed

[5:41:34] truck that will be 10 yards and

[5:41:40] there is a 12 yard truck.

[5:41:41] You are talking about four

[5:41:42] trips with a mixer

[5:41:45] .

[5:41:46] >> Jeannie LaCroix: four trips

[5:41:46] a week?

[5:41:51] Split correct.

[5:41:52] >> George Stewart: got you.

[5:41:53] And the next question is for

[5:41:53] staff

[5:41:59] .

[5:42:01] Kind of something that is just

[5:42:06] kind of stuck

[5:42:06] .

[5:42:07] I know it was said that this

[5:42:10] was a one-off

[5:42:11] .

[5:42:15] what is to keep someone

[5:42:16] proffering around the cpa going

[5:42:23] forward?

[5:42:24] >> every case is unique.

[5:42:26] Every case is situational.

[5:42:30] We look at that and is the same

[5:42:31] mentality

[5:42:44] .

[5:42:45] That's what we like to say

[5:42:45] regardless of the application.

[5:42:52] Every parcel land is

[5:42:52] different.

[5:42:53] Different uses, different

[5:42:55] considerations

[5:42:55] .

[5:42:59] That is on the staff side and

[5:43:00] it's how the planning

[5:43:03] commission would interpret such

[5:43:04] future cases if they were to

[5:43:14] occur in the board as well.

[5:43:15] >> George Stewart: I'm still

[5:43:16] worried about this setting as

[5:43:22] certain type of precedent.

[5:43:23] >> I wanted to make a general

[5:43:25] comment.

[5:43:26] The comprehensive plan is

[5:43:28] policy guidance help inform the

[5:43:29] board decision-making

[5:43:31] .

[5:43:33] They are not requirements.

[5:43:38] They are requests the go to the

[5:43:38] board to consider making

[5:43:39] changes to the

[5:43:39] land-use

[5:43:42] designations.

[5:43:46] The processes dependent upon

[5:43:46] the request are in the

[5:43:47] applications and the proposed

[5:43:50] development is

[5:43:50] .

[5:43:56] If there is a determination

[5:43:57] through the requester who feels

[5:43:58] that they would like to request

[5:44:01] encumbrance a plan amendment

[5:44:01] .

[5:44:02] If we can look on burns a plan

[5:44:06] amendment would be needed to

[5:44:08] support what the proposed

[5:44:09] voluminous

[5:44:11] .

[5:44:12] not the complication we have

[5:44:16] with applicants.

[5:44:19] There are a number of projects

[5:44:20] where the county received

[5:44:22] multiple cupboards a plan

[5:44:23] amendment requests.

[5:44:27] Mother not

[5:44:29] initiate them.

[5:44:31] They are legal requirements

[5:44:32] they requested the board to

[5:44:37] consider making changes to the

[5:44:41] board encumbrance and plan.

[5:44:43] As harrison noted to come in

[5:44:44] every case is unique and has

[5:44:49] its own considerations

[5:44:49] .

[5:44:50] There isn't necessarily

[5:44:51] everything has to go the same

[5:44:54] way for every case and so this

[5:44:54] incident would this create a

[5:44:56] precedent dealing with a

[5:44:57] particular situation not only

[5:45:00] with the site conditions but

[5:45:01] the requests in terms of the

[5:45:06] future use in a consideration

[5:45:09] on the land-use designations in

[5:45:13] the current zoning an idea

[5:45:14] doing a conference a plan

[5:45:15] amendment to a higher density

[5:45:20] level is not something that the

[5:45:22] staff that was warranted.

[5:45:23] We felt the approach that we

[5:45:26] took to address back there is

[5:45:27] an issue of how do we address

[5:45:30] the outdoor storage situation

[5:45:31] with regard to the zoning

[5:45:35] ordinance but looking at the

[5:45:36] full picture of what is being

[5:45:36] proposed of the application we

[5:45:38] felt that the approach we

[5:45:39] determined were giving the

[5:45:46] applicant is one that staff

[5:45:46] .

[5:45:48] When the application first came

[5:45:49] to the planning commission, the

[5:45:50] planning office recommended

[5:45:50] denial because there were a

[5:45:51] number of issues with the

[5:45:56] applicant at work with staff

[5:45:57] with the board as well into

[5:46:00] consideration planning

[5:46:00] commission recommendations to

[5:46:01] address those issues and so

[5:46:05] that is why we recommend

[5:46:06] approval and support this

[5:46:08] application but again, every

[5:46:11] situation is case specific but

[5:46:13] we did not see this in terms of

[5:46:16] addressing particular elements

[5:46:21] of this particular application

[5:46:22] where we felt a concern about

[5:46:25] creating a precedent.

[5:46:28] >> George Stewart: I get all of

[5:46:29] that but my concern is about

[5:46:29] the process

[5:46:29] .

[5:46:33] I get that it is not a legal

[5:46:42] requirement, but there are

[5:46:43] protocols and a process

[5:46:44] followed and so when something

[5:46:48] steps outside of that, for me

[5:46:50] it gets my spidey sentences

[5:46:53] tingling

[5:46:54] .

[5:46:54] This is a discussion to have

[5:46:59] between myself and staff and

[5:47:00] some other time, but I wanted

[5:47:02] to ask about that not so much

[5:47:04] as it pertains to this case but

[5:47:05] overall process.

[5:47:07] Thank you.

[5:47:09] >> Chair Deshundra: supervisor

[5:47:12] gordy

[5:47:12] .

[5:47:13] >> Tom Gordy: if you don't mind

[5:47:16] staying.

[5:47:18] When this application was filed

[5:47:26] , it was early in 2024 and it

[5:47:26] was a case I first looked at it

[5:47:27] and said there's no way I'm

[5:47:28] going to support this case

[5:47:34] because number one, left

[5:47:34] everything.

[5:47:36] It was sinking in one zoning

[5:47:36] .

[5:47:37] It left everything on the

[5:47:40] table.

[5:47:45] I was planning commission when

[5:47:52] we did that, plan update.

[5:47:53] There was an attempt to do

[5:47:55] heavy industrial in knoxville.

[5:47:59] I attended the business

[5:48:00] meetings.

[5:48:01] Businesses from noakes hill in

[5:48:06] knoxville who were complaining

[5:48:06] .

[5:48:07] There's no place for them to do

[5:48:07] the work in prince william

[5:48:10] county.

[5:48:15] They said I need a place to

[5:48:16] place to go compete with data

[5:48:17] centers

[5:48:17] .

[5:48:21] We can't go to wellington road

[5:48:23] for quicken for the rents so

[5:48:26] what's happening.

[5:48:31] Go out anywhere and guess what.

[5:48:33] People are already doing this

[5:48:40] stuff illegally mulder is

[5:48:43] trying to follow the law

[5:48:48] vicki's trying to do it right

[5:48:48] .

[5:48:53] And 2022 if we are going to do

[5:48:58] any industrial it must be light

[5:48:58] industrial.

[5:48:59] We must preserve the area for

[5:49:02] our small businesses

[5:49:04] .

[5:49:06] They are going to culpeper.

[5:49:10] Gases form dollars a gallon

[5:49:10] .

[5:49:12] By the way, you have people

[5:49:16] sitting in trucks not working

[5:49:17] for 45 minutes each way not

[5:49:20] making profit.

[5:49:24] It is hurting our business is.

[5:49:26] If we did a cpa, what would

[5:49:29] that take us to?

[5:49:30] Spoke to and I three

[5:49:31] .

[5:49:32] >> George Stewart: describe

[5:49:36] what we can do and what that is

[5:49:37] truly compatible with what we

[5:49:41] are trying to accomplish in

[5:49:41] noakes hill.

[5:49:48] >> for one thing they are our

[5:49:49] primary use the 93 until that

[5:49:53] would be an issue and also the

[5:49:57] I3 has intensity and height use

[5:49:58] .

[5:50:00] even though this is not one

[5:50:07] zoning in the label, irregular

[5:50:08] in one would allow.5 fa are

[5:50:09] inherently going to dock to

[5:50:12] three, they are only going to

[5:50:17] 45 feet as opposed to what is

[5:50:22] allowed to.

[5:50:29] And they are proffering out 80

[5:50:36] uses

[5:50:36] .

[5:50:37] It is trying to fit a zoning

[5:50:40] ordinance into this

[5:50:43] classification we have.

[5:50:44] The comprehensive plan is a

[5:50:46] guide

[5:50:46] .

[5:50:48] We are trying to implement

[5:50:53] policies is by doing this

[5:50:58] heavily proffered zoning like

[5:50:59] it's it down to the intensity

[5:51:01] and the height and that uses

[5:51:05] that we want to see.

[5:51:09] >> my house taller than 45

[5:51:09] .

[5:51:13] Most houses in noakes miller

[5:51:15] over 45 feet in height.

[5:51:17] Just to point that out.

[5:51:21] This is keeping it below if

[5:51:25] they are two stories with a

[5:51:28] 1212 pitch roof

[5:51:30] .

[5:51:30] What I would also offer is I'm

[5:51:35] not, will going to I3.

[5:51:36] I'm not comfortable with that

[5:51:41] at all.

[5:51:42] This is a case in be careful

[5:51:42] what you ask for because now

[5:51:43] what we are doing is we are

[5:51:46] opening up the noakes hill

[5:51:47] corridor work to have your

[5:51:50] intense use them what we want.

[5:51:50] Because they want to be

[5:51:51] technical.

[5:51:56] At the end of the day this is

[5:51:56] an eye to plan area which is a

[5:52:00] light industrial what we are

[5:52:02] getting is a light industrial.

[5:52:05] Let me ask this question.

[5:52:07] Can I have another five?

[5:52:12] Mental fabrication

[5:52:12] .

[5:52:13] Does that fit the definition of

[5:52:20] m2?

[5:52:21] >> holding up the definitions

[5:52:23] right now

[5:52:25] .

[5:52:27] >> Tom Gordy: they would need

[5:52:32] an sep for concrete mixing.

[5:52:38] That's what we are looking up.

[5:52:39] >> they would need a special

[5:52:40] use permit so they would have

[5:52:43] to come back to the board.

[5:52:44] Limit have to come back and get

[5:52:58] a special use permit.

[5:52:58] >> yes.

[5:52:59] Is sheet metal fabrication

[5:53:01] would fall under light assembly

[5:53:01] , which is part of light

[5:53:03] industrial.

[5:53:07] >> I do metal fabrication at my

[5:53:07] house

[5:53:07] .

[5:53:15] I make birdhouses.

[5:53:16] Now I would ask if you could

[5:53:19] come up.

[5:53:19] Can you talk about what is

[5:53:23] involved in the process

[5:53:23] .

[5:53:25] What are the tools that we are

[5:53:26] using and what are the noises

[5:53:31] generated from those tools

[5:53:34] .

[5:53:35] >> we have our goggles and we

[5:53:37] use a grinder and we cut two by

[5:53:40] fours and then we put it

[5:53:44] together and weld it.

[5:53:46] We created the fireplace

[5:53:46] .

[5:53:48] But a legos together

[5:53:53] .

[5:53:55] You can hear it in a small area

[5:53:58] but when you're in the open --

[5:54:04] that is pretty much everything.

[5:54:08] >> in terms of the noise levels

[5:54:10] in you are using a circular saw

[5:54:12] ricky raising grinders to cut

[5:54:16] metal and nail guns to attach

[5:54:19] things

[5:54:19] .

[5:54:19] Maybe even using an air

[5:54:22] compressor or other types of

[5:54:25] things MAY be a generator to

[5:54:27] help support your tools

[5:54:28] .

[5:54:31] Are those the things on site he

[5:54:37] would be utilizing?

[5:54:38] That is all I have for now.

[5:54:39] >> Chair Deshundra: I have one

[5:54:42] thing

[5:54:42] .

[5:54:43] I said this earlier and I want

[5:54:47] to say it again.

[5:54:48] If we need to get our proffers

[5:54:51] we need to get everything ready

[5:54:51] .

[5:54:52] We did it earlier and I'm tired

[5:54:57] of this practice is for the

[5:54:57] applicant and stop.

[5:55:03] Why is it

[5:55:04] a date is SEPTEMBER 1 and why

[5:55:06] are we getting it today?

[5:55:09] Why are we getting this today

[5:55:14] during the board meeting?

[5:55:17] >> we provided this to the

[5:55:18] staff

[5:55:18] .

[5:55:19] The dispatch had already gone

[5:55:24] out.

[5:55:28] What you have is the one change

[5:55:29] in as soon as you are aware of

[5:55:33] it we sent it to the staff.

[5:55:34] >> you been working with the

[5:55:37] applicant.

[5:55:37] You just decided that was

[5:55:39] something that you wanted to

[5:55:45] allow for?

[5:55:45] >> that is pretty much the gist

[5:55:52] of it.

[5:55:54] >> we have got to do better.

[5:55:57] It might be a minor change that

[5:56:01] we have got to do better.

[5:56:02] Especially for cases worked on

[5:56:05] for a while

[5:56:05] .

[5:56:06] There's a lot of staff time and

[5:56:08] money and things that go into

[5:56:11] this

[5:56:12] .

[5:56:13] I'm tired of proffers coming to

[5:56:13] us during a board meeting.

[5:56:16] that is not acceptable.

[5:56:17] If there are no more questions

[5:56:19] I would like to go ahead.

[5:56:25] Would you like to do a motion.

[5:56:28] >> George Stewart: want to

[5:56:29] thank everyone who has spoken

[5:56:32] out on this for all the work

[5:56:32] that has been done this has

[5:56:34] been a long process

[5:56:34] .

[5:56:37] This has been nearly 4 years in

[5:56:38] the making.

[5:56:43] It has gone through efforts to

[5:56:44] get this thing to the right

[5:56:46] place and to meet the intent to

[5:56:48] meet the intent of the noakes

[5:56:56] hill industrial.

[5:56:56] Lane working with

[5:56:59] transportation to deal with the

[5:57:00] issues

[5:57:02] .

[5:57:06] I have a meeting on thursday we

[5:57:07] will be having this

[5:57:11] conversation because we have a

[5:57:12] current existing problem and I

[5:57:14] think the county needs to

[5:57:20] address the challenges the

[5:57:21] county itself is creating the

[5:57:23] problem we need to work on

[5:57:28] that.

[5:57:30] Then working to try to resolve

[5:57:36] warrington road.

[5:57:40] Again

[5:57:41] , my view I don't want to

[5:57:42] open this up to a cpa because

[5:57:46] we open up the door to intense

[5:57:47] uses and that's not the intent

[5:57:49] of what we want to accomplish

[5:57:49] .

[5:57:50] We want to keep it light

[5:57:51] industrial.

[5:57:53] That is what a comp plan

[5:57:58] amendment would do.

[5:57:59] And this does accomplish the

[5:58:00] intent

[5:58:01] .

[5:58:05] It is for small businesses to

[5:58:05] have a place to put their

[5:58:06] storage and to have outdoor

[5:58:10] storage and to keep the small

[5:58:11] businesses in prince william

[5:58:16] county continuing to do their

[5:58:17] work and have a place where

[5:58:17] they are not having to compete

[5:58:17] with data

[5:58:21] centers for land.

[5:58:21] That's why we do everything to

[5:58:22] keep data centers out of

[5:58:29] knoxville.

[5:58:31] MADAM Chair, I move for

[5:58:36] approval of 14 a. With proffers

[5:58:42] dated SEPTEMBER 1, 2026.

[5:58:43] >> Chair Deshundra: any

[5:58:43] discussion?

[5:58:44] Supervisor boddye.

[5:58:45] >> Kenny Boddye: very quickly I

[5:58:45] wanted to thank the folks again

[5:58:47] not understanding your concerns

[5:58:48] .

[5:58:51] Event semi rural world dirt

[5:58:54] road and you are the abuses

[5:58:55] there and introducing another

[5:58:59] use.

[5:59:03] What is going to come next with

[5:59:03] the impacts what have you.

[5:59:07] I also want to thank staff this

[5:59:12] is been going on since pick

[5:59:13] that should not be lost unless

[5:59:13] either.

[5:59:17] I want to thank the

[5:59:18] applicant first altering

[5:59:20] through all this cannot be

[5:59:22] overstated enough that you are

[5:59:28] a small business sector the

[5:59:28] business week retain and

[5:59:29] attract the prince william

[5:59:30] county.

[5:59:35] And so4 in some cases the right

[5:59:37] reasons but wanting to get this

[5:59:37] as technically sound as

[5:59:42] possible we will make a small

[5:59:43] business to go back and go

[5:59:45] through a cpa process which

[5:59:46] could have unintended

[5:59:47] consequences to me since the

[5:59:51] wrong message that you want to

[5:59:52] keep it here but we want to

[5:59:53] make you spend more money more

[5:59:55] time and effort to go through a

[5:59:57] much larger process than what

[6:00:01] should be designed from a small

[6:00:02] business I wanted to say that.

[6:00:05] Wanted do something supervisor

[6:00:08] gordy said.

[6:00:09] I see it under the new hat I

[6:00:09] have.

[6:00:12] Folks are trying to keep their

[6:00:16] businesses, their contractors,

[6:00:17] other equipment yards of two

[6:00:18] options.

[6:00:20] You do it illegally or go

[6:00:23] somewhere else they are going

[6:00:30] to culpeper, they are going to

[6:00:31] further places out because they

[6:00:32] can't do it here.

[6:00:32] They don't like traffic and

[6:00:33] impacts and all the things that

[6:00:34] come up during the development

[6:00:38] but as a cost of inaction we

[6:00:39] are constantly saying no to

[6:00:42] things people are complaining

[6:00:44] about traffic on 28.

[6:00:45] If these guys had to go further

[6:00:51] out enough to drive in not only

[6:00:56] is that a cost of the business

[6:00:57] that since people driving on

[6:00:58] roads because we have the

[6:00:59] capability to have them housed

[6:01:01] in prince william county.

[6:01:02] But also, what is the statement

[6:01:07] to our businesses

[6:01:07] .

[6:01:08] We say that we don't want to be

[6:01:09] all eggs in one basket kinda

[6:01:10] county but if we make it harder

[6:01:12] for small businesses to grow

[6:01:16] and scale, we are telling them

[6:01:18] that we don't want them here.

[6:01:18] We are saying one thing and

[6:01:25] doing another

[6:01:25] .

[6:01:26] We have to continue to have

[6:01:29] tough conversations

[6:01:32] more friendly to have the small

[6:01:38] businesses. I appreciate the

[6:01:39] conversation when you wrap your

[6:01:41] christina, has anyone working

[6:01:44] with tonya and her team would

[6:01:45] go through the zoning ordinance

[6:01:46] update make sure we don't keep

[6:01:47] all these pitfalls were folks

[6:01:48] who have lived in legitimate

[6:01:49] concerns because they're so

[6:01:56] concerned about how it happens

[6:01:57] in this zoning ordinance, they

[6:01:58] are saying no to businesses.

[6:01:59] Businesses that we want to

[6:01:59] have.

[6:02:00] So I want to appreciate and

[6:02:01] highlight that you will stop

[6:02:04] the last thing I will say is I

[6:02:05] know that in a line of work

[6:02:10] that elder is talking about and

[6:02:11] that tendencies he's looking to

[6:02:22] attract, there always will not

[6:02:23] be a one-size-fits-all party

[6:02:24] type structure box is folks can

[6:02:25] volunteer. You MAY not even

[6:02:26] know the types of tenants you

[6:02:27] have a point. I'm sure there's

[6:02:28] some in the room that MAY be

[6:02:32] interested.

[6:02:33] As you continue to have

[6:02:34] conversations about the laydown

[6:02:34] yard, equipment notes, parking,

[6:02:35] we talked a lot about parking

[6:02:36] fleets and where people park

[6:02:37] their commercial vehicles, we

[6:02:38] continue to find the balance it

[6:02:39] would be good neighbors to

[6:02:40] people that currently exist and

[6:02:40] also saying there's businesses

[6:02:48] we don't even know exist or

[6:02:49] don't even know your tenants at

[6:02:49] but we don't want to say no and

[6:02:50] slam the door on them before

[6:02:51] they even had a chance to apply

[6:02:52] portable stop that's the way we

[6:02:53] find a good way forward in an

[6:02:59] area we said

[6:03:00] , we want more

[6:03:01] rural industrial uses because

[6:03:02] the f ar and intensity pose a

[6:03:07] heck of a lot farther into the

[6:03:08] eye to versus I3 and that's

[6:03:09] where were trying to land and

[6:03:26] so at the end of the day we do

[6:03:27] have these tough conversations

[6:03:28] and do it's right by the

[6:03:28] residence and also understand

[6:03:29] there's also businesses we want

[6:03:30] to continue to attract and

[6:03:31] retain in this county, thank

[6:03:31] you mdm. Chair.

[6:03:32] >> supervisor angry.

[6:03:34] >> let me try to be brief. I

[6:03:35] have questions as you noticed

[6:03:35] all of this.

[6:03:36] Waiting through this part just

[6:03:37] make my statement. My chief of

[6:03:38] staff because these bible

[6:03:39] exercises. Let's talk about

[6:03:40] this michael exercise.

[6:03:41] Two issues we have, always land

[6:03:42] use. Everything is always land

[6:03:44] use but the other is we need to

[6:03:45] have a company, a family hair

[6:03:47] was law-abiding and trying to

[6:03:54] follow a process to be legal to

[6:03:55] what they're doing in their

[6:03:56] business. Let me do this in a

[6:03:57] don't mean to be funny about

[6:04:00] it.

[6:04:01] This model here on the east

[6:04:02] county, bracey mobile mechanics

[6:04:08] working in every autozone

[6:04:09] parking lot. Fixing cars. I

[6:04:10] have so many oil stains splc

[6:04:11] all over the place because

[6:04:11] guess what?

[6:04:12] Starting to think if these

[6:04:17] folks at this meeting right now

[6:04:18] they don't want to legalize

[6:04:19] their business because it's

[6:04:20] very tough because we are

[6:04:21] having unnecessary

[6:04:21] conversations about how do we

[6:04:22] clean up

[6:04:22] , trying to legalize

[6:04:25] businesses which is what we and

[6:04:28] I'm not even saying a business

[6:04:29] was illegal. Literally trying

[6:04:35] to streamline the process, grow

[6:04:35] your company, do things that

[6:04:36] are done on site where you are

[6:04:58] working in a facility that is

[6:04:59] clearly out of the way and I'm

[6:05:00] sorry because I know this will

[6:05:00] affect if you homeowners, I

[6:05:01] know that academy well and i

[6:05:02] expand a year there entire

[6:05:03] school's one of the area very

[6:05:03] well. It seemed to me a

[6:05:05] no-brainer this would be that.

[6:05:05] Without it being the regular

[6:05:06] conversation we are always

[6:05:07] having about big business in

[6:05:08] that word data center. I really

[6:05:09] felt this was something that

[6:05:10] would be simple to do and I

[6:05:10] appreciate everything we say

[6:05:11] because literally once again

[6:05:12] you said this before in the

[6:05:13] past, and it goes with what

[6:05:16] you're saying now.

[6:05:17] And even talked about the fact

[6:05:18] we went to that small business

[6:05:21] meeting and found out folks

[6:05:21] wanted it and here we are today

[6:05:22] having this conversation but it

[6:05:25] was kind of long.

[6:05:33] Who enter this michael exercise

[6:05:33] to really see small business

[6:05:34] have an opportunity for others

[6:05:35] to want to move forward and be

[6:05:40] a part of the county by moving

[6:05:41] their business into

[6:05:42] brick-and-mortar in the process

[6:05:42] so I really thank you, thank

[6:05:47] you all for bringing this to

[6:05:47] grow in the county and not

[6:05:48] leave that county and doing it

[6:05:58] the right way. So thank you.

[6:05:59] >> supervisor bailey.

[6:06:00] >> thank you mdm. Chair. I'll

[6:06:01] take the baton from supervisor

[6:06:02] angry. Thank you for passing it

[6:06:03] to me. And I will start with

[6:06:03] growth.

[6:06:04] And we do have to learn and

[6:06:08] grow together as community, the

[6:06:09] first thing I want to say is

[6:06:16] elder, thank you for deciding

[6:06:17] to live here. And to establish

[6:06:18] your business here.

[6:06:21] Because we, all communities,

[6:06:23] small business emulate the

[6:06:28] economy.

[6:06:29] Wherever people live. And so,

[6:06:30] for your vision and

[6:06:34] understanding that and not

[6:06:35] leaving and working through

[6:06:36] from the time you came to my

[6:06:37] office and talked about this

[6:06:38] and that times were like this,

[6:06:47] but, you did not give up.

[6:06:47] It's what I'm saying so thank

[6:06:48] you for living here and raising

[6:06:49] your family here. As a family

[6:06:52] unit, as a father-in-law, you

[6:06:53] are all doing it together. So

[6:06:55] that trust is there.

[6:06:56] And we want to help you build

[6:06:57] that trust.

[6:07:00] And so to my colleague tom, we

[6:07:05] learn from you all the time.

[6:07:06] And you don't say much but when

[6:07:09] you say it is pointed.

[6:07:10] You are on the planning

[6:07:11] commission, that helps is

[6:07:14] making decisions.

[6:07:15] We MAY not agree. But it helps

[6:07:20] us make a decision so you are

[6:07:21] here with all of this and

[6:07:21] constantly show us different

[6:07:22] ways and how we can support

[6:07:24] staff, and the client. And say

[6:07:34] yes or no. Or not now.

[6:07:35] So for staff, economic

[6:07:36] development and planning,

[6:07:37] again, this is an example of a

[6:07:37] collaborate together and from

[6:07:38] the past you in.

[6:07:42] Not in a negative sense, you

[6:07:43] were but not like you are now.

[6:07:45] That helps us make a decision

[6:07:45] also.

[6:07:51] And MR. Stewart, you're going

[6:07:51] to be the gift that keeps on

[6:07:54] giving. Because you will be

[6:07:57] transitioning consistently.

[6:07:58] Your role in the past is not

[6:08:00] what your role is now.

[6:08:01] Just call that growth. Take the

[6:08:05] punches, we give them. We will

[6:08:06] give them but we need answers

[6:08:07] from you.

[6:08:14] So prep as an primus to be able

[6:08:15] to say as to the client.

[6:08:16] Always. But it is growth. And

[6:08:29] then to our wonderful

[6:08:30] constituents they came out and

[6:08:31] gave your views on how you feel

[6:08:31] about this. We appreciate your

[6:08:32] voices. We have to make these

[6:08:34] decisions collectively. And it

[6:08:41] is hard. Because when -- we

[6:08:42] want status by everybody

[6:08:42] always. But it's hard. That's

[6:08:43] why he passed out big bucks.

[6:08:44] You pay us to serve and serve

[6:08:45] everybody not just the spot.

[6:08:46] So I say that not any negative

[6:08:47] sense at all.

[6:08:49] But you say that the process

[6:08:53] that harrison took us through

[6:08:57] was tough. Two years.

[6:08:58] Which has stayed the course and

[6:08:59] you fed us.

[6:09:05] So I appreciate that.

[6:09:09] But that's kind of how I say

[6:09:10] this to you. I'm sorry mdm.

[6:09:10] Chair.

[6:09:17] His every community is

[6:09:18] important to me. So appreciate

[6:09:19] the presentation tonight. I

[6:09:23] agree with mdm. Chair, last

[6:09:24] minute. You been up here.

[6:09:25] That's a transition, just set

[6:09:30] us up a little bit.

[6:09:31] I want to say to elder, the

[6:09:34] community, the business owner.

[6:09:42] Help us in diversifying, and

[6:09:43] that's important as we build a

[6:09:44] tax base.

[6:09:46] So the county is not writing on

[6:09:48] the citizens back to support

[6:09:53] it.

[6:09:54] >> supervisor lacroix.

[6:09:58] >> I reset it when I met you.

[6:09:59] You make me want to help you.

[6:09:59] I'm

[6:10:01] thinking who needs a deck?

[6:10:03] I'm dying to give your name

[6:10:04] out.

[6:10:07] But so often times the county

[6:10:08] makes it hard for people.

[6:10:11] And it does my heart good when

[6:10:13] people are showing grace.

[6:10:17] So you were denied and then our

[6:10:19] staff kept working with you.

[6:10:21] And you know, you don't have

[6:10:24] that kind of success.

[6:10:25] Somebody's really not on the

[6:10:36] other side or on the side. This

[6:10:36] was a success story. We showed

[6:10:37] grace. And you showed grace.

[6:10:42] And it's a winner in my view.

[6:10:43] But again, I will be calling

[6:10:44] you because I will get people

[6:10:45] to go to your business. Thank

[6:10:49] you.

[6:10:50] >> I want to say a few things,

[6:10:51] first of all we came to my

[6:10:51] office, I appreciated the

[6:10:52] conversation and I want to

[6:10:57] support small businesses, and I

[6:10:58] support process. I will vote

[6:10:59] for this because it's a good

[6:11:00] project.

[6:11:01] But also going to keep harping

[6:11:06] on process because people who

[6:11:07] sat in his seat know better

[6:11:08] because when you know better

[6:11:13] you do better.

[6:11:14] Let me make myself very clear,

[6:11:15] process matters. I will not

[6:11:16] hold of a project because of

[6:11:16] process, yet.

[6:11:24] There MAY come a time when I

[6:11:25] decided one vote for something

[6:11:26] because people are skirting the

[6:11:27] process. I don't like that.

[6:11:28] Because transparency matters.

[6:11:29] It's not fair to come here with

[6:11:34] a last-minute change while were

[6:11:35] on the dais. It happened once

[6:11:36] today and he said something,

[6:11:37] say something again.

[6:11:38] Because they keep saying

[6:11:39] something and again there comes

[6:11:46] a point where it won't be as

[6:11:47] gracious. But I want to heard a

[6:11:47] small business owner, I don't

[6:11:48] want to hurt somebody who's

[6:11:49] been earnest trying to work

[6:11:49] with the county.

[6:11:50] I don't want to do that. I know

[6:11:54] you've been through a lot elder

[6:11:55] and been through a lot with

[6:11:58] this process.

[6:11:59] It gets ugly sometimes. I do

[6:12:06] appreciate -- I appreciate

[6:12:07] greatly. It shows you are a man

[6:12:07] of integrity.

[6:12:09] And if you want to be an asset

[6:12:14] to this community.

[6:12:15] But I will say to everyone

[6:12:16] else, process matters. I want

[6:12:22] to get another last-minute

[6:12:23] proper adjustment. I don't know

[6:12:24] how to make that anymore clear

[6:12:31] to anyone.

[6:12:32] This part needs to stop. Again,

[6:12:32] I don't want to hurt a small

[6:12:33] business process because of

[6:12:40] other people sloppiness but

[6:12:41] perhaps it's laziness or

[6:12:42] perhaps I don't know what it

[6:12:42] is. But that I do not

[6:12:43] appreciate. Especially from

[6:12:47] people who have sat on this day

[6:12:48] is. I take this role seriously.

[6:12:49] And for them to make decisions,

[6:12:49] we need to make decisions we

[6:12:54] need to redo everything because

[6:12:55] that's what the public expects

[6:13:00] from us.

[6:13:01] There are a lot of people who

[6:13:03] are upset.

[6:13:04] About this project. We've heard

[6:13:07] them out.

[6:13:08] I've read their emails and

[6:13:08] listen to their concerns.

[6:13:10] I want to do anything that

[6:13:14] undermines the integrity and

[6:13:20] the trust of people placing us

[6:13:21] in place in our

[6:13:22] decision-making, that's why

[6:13:23] process also really matters.

[6:13:24] But again, I'm not going to

[6:13:28] hold up a good project because

[6:13:29] of a sloppy process. I won't do

[6:13:35] that.

[6:13:36] We have a business that's

[6:13:36] needed. You have a business

[6:13:37] that employs people and brings

[6:13:37] more jobs.

[6:13:40] That a data center.

[6:13:41] And we do have a problem in

[6:13:42] this county with having enough

[6:13:47] land for businesses like yours.

[6:13:48] That's a common thing I hear

[6:13:49] from a lot of business owners

[6:13:52] and economic development.

[6:13:53] We also know we need to

[6:13:55] diversify our local economy.

[6:13:56] And so that is very important

[6:14:00] to me.

[6:14:01] So that is another reason I'm

[6:14:02] supporting this application.

[6:14:06] But to keep beating the dead

[6:14:06] horse and bringing up after I

[6:14:10] boarded, process matters so for

[6:14:11] everyone on this day is. Other

[6:14:12] land-use attorneys, process

[6:14:16] matters.

[6:14:17] Okay process matters. I will

[6:14:18] get a t-shirt.

[6:14:22] Put a hashtag on it.

[6:14:23] Process matters. I don't want

[6:14:27] another sloppy process like we

[6:14:28] had tonight. So with that, I

[6:14:41] will call for a vote.

[6:14:46] Vote unanimous.

[6:14:48] >> okay thank you very much.

[6:14:54] We are going to move on to

[6:14:54] public comment on. We can let

[6:14:55] the other people leave.

[6:15:40] All

[6:15:41] right. We are moving on to

[6:15:42] agenda item number 15 and that

[6:15:43] is public comment on. I have

[6:15:44] two people signed up to speak.

[6:15:50] In person.

[6:15:51] I have again, the rules are you

[6:15:52] go to the back, please adjust

[6:15:53] the microphone so we hear you

[6:15:56] again by stating your name and

[6:15:57] the magisterial district where

[6:15:58] you reside. You have three

[6:15:59] minutes and there will be a

[6:16:00] timer so please go to the back

[6:16:16] I have greg, and melody miller.

[6:16:19] I am greg matherne I think it

[6:16:27] is we are losing supervisors

[6:16:28] and that's incredibly

[6:16:29] disrespectful. But besides

[6:16:29] that, I want to talk today

[6:16:31] about cameras another oddity

[6:16:32] automated license plate

[6:16:37] readers.

[6:16:38] The police department website

[6:16:39] spoke to the agency briefly

[6:16:41] regarding the use of alp ours.

[6:16:42] I take them at their word and

[6:16:46] they tell us they are useful to

[6:16:47] solve and prevent crime. The

[6:16:47] reality though is is not a

[6:16:53] question of when, medical or

[6:16:54] not a question of if but a

[6:16:54] question of when that

[6:16:55] information will be used

[6:16:56] improperly by folks. I work for

[6:16:56] a federal

[6:17:01] agency, I criminal

[6:17:01] offense punishable by year in

[6:17:12] jail thousand dollar fine to

[6:17:13] lick improperly look up a

[6:17:14] citizens information. That does

[6:17:15] not exist for the use of these

[6:17:16] cameras. We have seen time and

[6:17:16] time again throughout the

[6:17:19] country at law enforcement and

[6:17:20] others who have access to these

[6:17:21] cameras improperly use them to

[6:17:22] track people.

[6:17:22] We have seen them use these

[6:17:29] cameras to stock former

[6:17:30] romantic acquaintances, to stop

[6:17:31] people they just randomly not.

[6:17:32] We've seen this information

[6:17:36] used to track women seeking

[6:17:37] healthcare because somebody

[6:17:40] decided a women didn't deserve

[6:17:41] healthcare. We have seen a

[6:17:44] systems fail and result in

[6:17:45] people pulled over on the side

[6:17:46] of the road at gunpoint because

[6:17:50] there was an error in the

[6:17:52] system in prince william county

[6:17:52] is employing and contributing

[6:18:04] to the problem.

[6:18:05] Flock to both its camera has an

[6:18:06] accuracy rate over 90%. But

[6:18:07] even at 97%, in our county if

[6:18:07] every citizen went by one of

[6:18:08] those cameras, just once, we

[6:18:09] would have 15,000 errors a

[6:18:09] month.

[6:18:12] flock is scanning billions

[6:18:12] ,

[6:18:13] billions of license plates

[6:18:15] every year.

[6:18:23] Resulting in tens of millions

[6:18:24] of incorrect reports. These

[6:18:25] errors are going to get someone

[6:18:26] killed. And, if you continue to

[6:18:30] allow flock to be used in this

[6:18:31] county, you all, every single

[6:18:32] one of you up on that guys will

[6:18:33] have personal culpability in

[6:18:34] the death of someone. Flock

[6:18:43] might be a tool that can solve

[6:18:44] some crimes coming at the

[6:18:44] expense of our rights as

[6:18:45] citizens to be free of the

[6:18:46] constant surveillance of the

[6:18:47] state. The systems were in

[6:18:48] coprincipal 80 years ago but

[6:18:48] they were the very basis of

[6:18:51] george orwell.

[6:18:52] Big brother when he wrote about

[6:18:54] that in 1984. 1984 was not a

[6:18:55] roadmap. It was a warning.

[6:18:58] And you should all be very

[6:19:00] cognizant of that.

[6:19:01] I'm calling on this board to

[6:19:08] require the prince william

[6:19:09] county police department to

[6:19:10] remove all flock cameras and

[6:19:17] prohibit the use of such

[6:19:18] cameras in the future. You

[6:19:19] engage in during our lives and

[6:19:20] surveilling the people, it is

[6:19:21] unacceptable.

[6:19:22] >> next speaker please.

[6:19:28] >> thanks again, I will make a

[6:19:28] quick close-up my name is

[6:19:29] melody

[6:19:47] miller.

[6:19:48] I was prepared on 14b but I

[6:19:48] want take a moment say I'm

[6:19:49] disappointed in the approval

[6:19:50] you just gave you that after we

[6:19:51] set it for 90 minutes talk

[6:19:51] about how they follow the

[6:19:52] process. You actually have the

[6:19:53] option to deferred after 30

[6:19:54] days, give the public the

[6:19:55] opportunity to review those

[6:19:56] properties that came today

[6:19:57] because I haven't seen them,

[6:19:57] the public hasn't seen them,

[6:19:58] and do this the right way even

[6:20:02] if is not a cpa, you absolutely

[6:20:03] have the opportunity to give

[6:20:04] the public that information

[6:20:05] interactively chose not to.

[6:20:10] Citizens in this county have a

[6:20:11] right to know what the board is

[6:20:12] approving. You extensively work

[6:20:12] for us. So I just want to

[6:20:13] remind you guys they did have

[6:20:19] an option to differ

[6:20:20] interactively chose not to. 30

[6:20:21] days would not made a

[6:20:22] difference to a small business.

[6:20:22] As a small business owner, I

[6:20:23] can say that very truly.

[6:20:24] What I wanted to address my

[6:20:26] last two minutes is to the

[6:20:34] early admission about data

[6:20:34] center development for 14 b. I

[6:20:35] totally get that. I want to

[6:20:39] remind the board again that

[6:20:39] even though you can't require

[6:20:40] certain things under virginia

[6:20:59] code, you do retain full cite

[6:20:59] authority over the site plan

[6:21:00] subdivision plot and building

[6:21:01] permit approval so when they do

[6:21:02] come back since you've differed

[6:21:03] it, I urge you to use that

[6:21:03] power, urge you to impose the

[6:21:04] maximum allowable physical

[6:21:05] conditions or site plan review.

[6:21:06] Conditions imposed must relate

[6:21:07] to public health safety and

[6:21:08] welfare fully authorized and

[6:21:14] include environmental impacts

[6:21:15] on citizens. I asked that you

[6:21:16] demand the full of the

[6:21:16] structure analysis, this is 150

[6:21:17] mw data center. Two new codes,

[6:21:18] 15.2 b

[6:21:18] 20.904 which the

[6:21:19] high-energy's facility

[6:21:26] assessment law in virginia code

[6:21:26] is 62.1 b

[6:21:26] 4438 which is the

[6:21:28] data center use six closure

[6:21:28] also another 64 that came out

[6:21:36] but you can't and you should

[6:21:36] full analysis on capacity

[6:21:37] especially tmj warning a full

[6:21:38] disclosure of water consumption

[6:21:39] impacts on the reservoir which

[6:21:40] is 8 inches full or normal.

[6:21:42] And the great cost that will

[6:21:48] fall on ratepayers.

[6:21:48] I would urge you to bid beveled

[6:21:50] nature on the public record

[6:21:51] environmental financial social

[6:21:52] before any approval goes

[6:21:53] forward also as you demand

[6:21:54] voluntary commitments and put

[6:21:55] them on record. You can't

[6:21:57] require proffers and by rectum

[6:22:01] a I understand that. But you

[6:22:02] can request a public document

[6:22:09] commitments and hold them

[6:22:10] accountable. So I can't require

[6:22:10] them to offer it, you can

[6:22:11] certainly ask them and then you

[6:22:15] can hold them to what they

[6:22:16] promised. Can create a public

[6:22:17] record of what an applicant was

[6:22:22] unwilling to commit to.

[6:22:23] And protect county citizens

[6:22:24] from brainwashing. Again, by

[6:22:25] right does not need direct to

[6:22:26] the community so I encourage

[6:22:28] you to use the tools at your

[6:22:29] review, the power vested you

[6:22:40] under the authority and protect

[6:22:41] our watersheds and citizens and

[6:22:42] future. Thank you so much.

[6:22:43] >> thank you so much, I'll turn

[6:22:44] to supervisor angry for remote

[6:22:45] public comment time.

[6:22:45] >> do we have any remote

[6:22:46] speakers?

[6:22:47] >> yes we do. Our first speaker

[6:22:47] is chris growth.

[6:22:50] >> go ahead.

[6:22:53] >> sorry chris, can you do for

[6:22:54] me to the next person.

[6:23:01] >> okay. I believe we can do

[6:23:04] that.

[6:23:05] >> 'ssecond speaker our next

[6:23:07] speaker will be MISS Jessica

[6:23:11] grove.

[6:23:12] >> this grove go-ahead.

[6:23:14] >> this is jessica grove, I

[6:23:19] just want to say that it was

[6:23:21] mentioned before with the hydro

[6:23:25] property that is difficult to

[6:23:28] find properties within prince

[6:23:30] william county and that they

[6:23:38] are moving

[6:23:39] , businesses are

[6:23:40] moving out, small businesses

[6:23:41] are moving out because they can

[6:23:42] afford to be here and I want to

[6:23:43] remind the board that the

[6:23:43] decisions that have been made

[6:23:44] by this board are what is

[6:23:46] causing that to happen and it

[6:23:51] has been said by christina

[6:23:56] when, several times, before,

[6:23:57] that because of all these data

[6:23:57] center approvals, because you

[6:24:02] are proving cpa initiations,

[6:24:03] the cost of land in this area

[6:24:11] has skyrocketed to levels

[6:24:11] , the

[6:24:12] normal homeowner or normal

[6:24:17] business cannot afford.

[6:24:22] The problems that we are seeing

[6:24:23] in the county for small

[6:24:24] businesses you guys have

[6:24:26] caused.

[6:24:27] And I would like some

[6:24:30] acknowledgment towards that.

[6:24:33] For future cpas that you guys

[6:24:35] seem to be allowing to come

[6:24:44] forward that are troublesome.

[6:24:47] I know I've said this before

[6:24:50] and I'm going to say it again.

[6:24:51] In the western and we are

[6:24:53] dealing with predatory land

[6:24:59] developers that it is

[6:24:59] impossible, the decisions you

[6:25:01] guys have made in the past are

[6:25:04] causing people to flee and they

[6:25:05] are causing people to take what

[6:25:09] they can get and screw the rest

[6:25:10] of the community while they are

[6:25:15] added.

[6:25:16] and I will say it over and over

[6:25:17] and over again. This is a

[6:25:18] community, you guys are

[6:25:19] representing us as homeowners,

[6:25:21] as residents, and as humans and

[6:25:23] the decisions that you make

[6:25:31] should not always be based on

[6:25:32] money or profits for certain

[6:25:33] people. It should be based on

[6:25:33] the quality of life and the

[6:25:34] health and well-being of the

[6:25:37] residents who are here.

[6:25:37] And made it what it is. Thank

[6:25:42] you.

[6:25:43] >> thank you ma'am. Next

[6:25:44] speaker please.

[6:25:47] >> next speaker is MR. Grove.

[6:25:47] >> appreciate that. Chris

[6:25:57] grove, also, vp of the hoa. But

[6:26:02] I want take much time.

[6:26:08] I appreciate your comment

[6:26:09] , you

[6:26:10] don't necessarily want to ask a

[6:26:11] question or go to the cpa

[6:26:13] process as it could open you up

[6:26:14] to more things I do appreciate

[6:26:17] that.

[6:26:18] One thing I am pleased that you

[6:26:21] did

[6:26:22] , while considering this, he

[6:26:23] listens to your planning staff.

[6:26:28] That's great.

[6:26:29] The planning staff you need to

[6:26:33] listen to the citizens, the

[6:26:33] residents of the district. I am

[6:26:36] pleased that you actually

[6:26:37] showed deference to supervisor

[6:26:39] gordie as the district

[6:26:41] supervisor letting him lead the

[6:26:46] way and how that decision went.

[6:26:48] Conversely, I would like to say

[6:26:50] from the last meeting when men

[6:26:54] assess preserve estates

[6:26:54] , I'm

[6:26:57] very disappointed in the

[6:27:04] board's unwillingness to listen

[6:27:05] to the planning staff. He

[6:27:05] listened, paid and really give

[6:27:06] them much respect and value

[6:27:11] their opinions.

[6:27:11] their professional opinions

[6:27:12] because they do this for a

[6:27:13] living. And I also, I would've

[6:27:15] appreciated if you had shown

[6:27:16] deference to supervisor stewart

[6:27:20] because he is the district

[6:27:20] supervisor for gainesville. And

[6:27:24] he was certainly not willing to

[6:27:26] put his thumb about approval

[6:27:26] ,

[6:27:32] his stamp of approval -- as we

[6:27:33] go through the cpa process with

[6:27:36] those, I hope you do show him

[6:27:39] some deference on what he

[6:27:43] believes is right for his

[6:27:44] constituents in his district

[6:27:50] because you will have a lot of

[6:27:51] us peeking out from a personal

[6:27:52] side and from a professional

[6:27:54] side.

[6:27:54] So I just, I want you to keep

[6:27:56] that in mind.

[6:27:59] The job.

[6:28:00] I'm not really pleased with how

[6:28:04] it went.

[6:28:11] The gentleman that's really

[6:28:12] well with his business. But

[6:28:13] also respects his neighbors and

[6:28:14] keep that in mind. Thank you

[6:28:14] all.

[6:28:23] >> thank you sir. Next speaker.

[6:28:24] >> that was our last speaker.

[6:28:25] Thank you very much.

[6:28:25] >> thank you chris.

[6:28:26] >> thank you so very much,

[6:28:29] let's move on to agenda item

[6:28:30] 16.

[6:28:30] >> manager, before we motion to

[6:28:31] adjourn, I just quickly, I want

[6:28:34] ali denied

[6:28:35] , I want to know

[6:28:36] which direction you want to go

[6:28:37] and get the opinion of the

[6:28:44] county attorney.

[6:28:45] I understand your frustration

[6:28:46] and a shift to a certain extent

[6:28:47] but I think that people that

[6:28:48] conduct business in this county

[6:28:48] also need clarity. Is this

[6:28:49] something that we are going to

[6:28:50] take on and are there any legal

[6:28:54] considerations mdm. County

[6:28:55] attorney when it comes to

[6:28:56] last-minute proffers because it

[6:28:56] happens all the time.

[6:29:05] And so you know, to single out

[6:29:06] somebody here tonight, I think

[6:29:06] is to an extent unfair if

[6:29:07] that's the message we will send

[6:29:08] I'm fine with sending it but I

[6:29:09] just want to know what the

[6:29:10] process is if there is one or

[6:29:13] if legally

[6:29:13] , applicants are

[6:29:16] within the right to provide

[6:29:21] last-minute proffers changes to

[6:29:21] this board?

[6:29:24] >> manager members of the

[6:29:26] board, when the agenda is

[6:29:27] published, all the documents

[6:29:28] need to be available.

[6:29:29] But the law the code of

[6:29:30] virginia does allow at a public

[6:29:33] hearing for changes to be made

[6:29:38] so they can be made.

[6:29:39] But I understand the board's

[6:29:41] frustration.

[6:29:44] That it has become more of a

[6:29:44] rule of changes right at the

[6:29:46] last minute instead of the

[6:29:48] exception.

[6:29:49] You are at this time currently

[6:29:56] allowed to accept changes at a

[6:29:57] public hearing. But once they

[6:29:57] advertisement is made, the

[6:30:02] documents need to be ready.

[6:30:03] >> manager, if I MAY.

[6:30:04] >> it did. Thank you. How would

[6:30:05] you suggest to my colleagues at

[6:30:06] if it matters within our

[6:30:12] district that we do our very

[6:30:13] best to try to work to ensure

[6:30:17] we are prepared. And we avoid

[6:30:18] having last-minute proffers

[6:30:19] changes because it does get a

[6:30:19] little dicey and difficult to

[6:30:35] try to make decisions sort of

[6:30:36] on-the-fly. I'll be honest,

[6:30:37] rely on the county attorney and

[6:30:38] her office to be thorough

[6:30:39] examining these last-minute

[6:30:40] changes in appreciate when a

[6:30:40] document has every docket in

[6:30:41] red and the new language

[6:30:42] because it makes it a lot

[6:30:43] easier than flipping through

[6:30:43] seven pages but I think it's

[6:30:44] good practice for us to

[6:30:45] independently take on to make

[6:30:46] sure when it comes to primetime

[6:30:47] land-use applications in

[6:30:48] addition. Thank you manager.

[6:30:49] >> I want to respond to that.

[6:30:52] Redlines, that's because the

[6:30:53] changes. It makes it a lot

[6:30:54] easier to read and picture. And

[6:31:00] that's appreciate it.

[6:31:01] And I know not picking on one

[6:31:01] specific person because I said

[6:31:02] this before. I've been

[6:31:03] irritated other times, with

[6:31:04] this, you remember.

[6:31:14] I was irritated earlier.

[6:31:15] It makes us look really bad

[6:31:16] when this happened. It makes us

[6:31:17] look sloppy, makes us look like

[6:31:18] were not transparent in making

[6:31:19] decisions that at the last

[6:31:20] moment. I understand things

[6:31:20] happen. I get that.

[6:31:20] Ut how

[6:31:21] often is this happening and why

[6:31:22] does it need to keep having?

[6:31:23] And when something comes up and

[6:31:25] at the podium and they're

[6:31:30] making me feel like they should

[6:31:31] not be a big deal, I take

[6:31:35] exception to that because I

[6:31:35] take this role seriously. We

[6:31:36] have people with legitimate

[6:31:38] concerns.

[6:31:39] And so when we get these

[6:31:42] last-minute changes, how does

[6:31:50] it look to the community?

[6:31:51] And I get everyone is working

[6:31:52] with the applicants. But I

[6:31:53] don't want to just put on the

[6:31:53] district supervisor.

[6:31:55] I also want to put it on the

[6:31:59] land-use attorney's and not

[6:32:00] everyone is a land-use attorney

[6:32:04] who comes before us.

[6:32:05] It's also on them. And this is

[6:32:06] something I was planning to

[6:32:09] address with some industry

[6:32:10] groups that represent people

[6:32:11] who bring randy's cases before

[6:32:12] us.

[6:32:15] Because it's something I really

[6:32:16] am frustrated about.

[6:32:20] I'm absolutely frustrated about

[6:32:21] this. I read through the packet

[6:32:32] I trust that everything's there

[6:32:32] and when me with the applicant,

[6:32:33] I like to think we are going

[6:32:34] through everything. And then

[6:32:35] having the last-minute changes

[6:32:36] sprung up even if it's just

[6:32:36] adding more foliage to a buffer

[6:32:39] or native plants.

[6:32:40] We should be doing it at the

[6:32:41] last minute that should be the

[6:32:44] only one calling this out and

[6:32:45] irritated over this. I really

[6:32:48] should be. And so, it's in all

[6:32:49] of us think it is something

[6:32:51] like that I will address

[6:32:52] individually with some of the

[6:32:58] attorneys and industry

[6:32:59] organizations. Because we

[6:33:00] shouldn't keep coming, we

[6:33:05] should keep coming to the well

[6:33:06] ,

[6:33:07] everything's ready to go, it's

[6:33:07] been advertised and the public

[6:33:08] hasn't had a chance to look at

[6:33:08] this.

[6:33:10] It is still a change.

[6:33:12] It is still something that

[6:33:16] people need to be able to look

[6:33:19] at the question.

[6:33:20] So I do get tired of the

[6:33:23] last-minute changes.

[6:33:24] I get very tired of the

[6:33:27] last-minute changes.

[6:33:28] And I won't apologize for that

[6:33:29] because it doesn't seem like it

[6:33:33] will stop.

[6:33:34] Supervisor gordy.

[6:33:38] >> mdm. Chair, I appreciate

[6:33:38] the discussion and appreciate

[6:33:40] the frustration.

[6:33:45] I would just point out it's

[6:33:46] usually not until the agenda is

[6:33:47] posted that the applicant's go

[6:33:48] meet with

[6:33:50] , let's say they will

[6:33:54] go meet with the rest of you

[6:34:05] guys.

[6:34:06] So in a lot of those

[6:34:06] conversations where things get

[6:34:08] pulled out saying hey, we need

[6:34:08] to fix this or that or whatever

[6:34:09] so it ends up resulting in

[6:34:10] last-minute changes.

[6:34:11] After the agenda is posted

[6:34:11] which is where everybody gets

[6:34:13] to actually pull down the

[6:34:14] application.

[6:34:16] From the agenda.

[6:34:18] So maybe, there's gotta be

[6:34:23] , I

[6:34:24] would say we probably need to

[6:34:25] meet with these applicants

[6:34:29] earlier rather than waiting

[6:34:30] until the agenda is posted so

[6:34:31] we can try to get these things

[6:34:32] changed before they get put

[6:34:36] into the agenda.

[6:34:45] I just make that point.

[6:34:46] And because that's where lot of

[6:34:47] the last-minute changes are

[6:34:48] coming is out of the meetings

[6:35:00] with us.

[6:35:00] Which are usually done after

[6:35:01] the posting of the agenda so

[6:35:02] thank you for the conversation.

[6:35:04] >> and that is something,

[6:35:04] patients are coming around

[6:35:05] earlier else are asking people

[6:35:06] to come around sooner. Because

[6:35:14] I feel like it's a disservice.

[6:35:14] The week before is a true

[6:35:15] disservice. To all of us.

[6:35:15] Supervisor lacroix.

[6:35:16] >> I agree that if it is

[6:35:17] possible to do them, but I do

[6:35:18] go back to belmont today and

[6:35:19] right before we all voted on

[6:35:20] that, we had because of a

[6:35:26] speaker, requesting an elevator

[6:35:27] in the community center, they

[6:35:33] did a last-minute grace for the

[6:35:34] community and offer to do it

[6:35:34] and it had to be through a

[6:35:37] proffer.

[6:35:38] So it's a case by case

[6:35:39] situation. But I do understand

[6:35:50] if it is able to be here early

[6:35:51] and I guess you're talking

[6:35:52] about tonight specifically.

[6:35:53] Apparently it never made it

[6:35:53] here in time for this. But I

[6:36:03] think it's case-by-case.

[6:36:04] And that's all I have to say.

[6:36:05] >> I'll stick with belmont bay

[6:36:06] appreciate the developer for

[6:36:07] making that last-minute

[6:36:08] adjustment based on what they

[6:36:08] heard in the board chambers.

[6:36:09] That doesn't happen often.

[6:36:10] That doesn't happen often.

[6:36:11] That's a different situation

[6:36:17] entirely.

[6:36:18] They are hearing something like

[6:36:19] there like you know what we

[6:36:20] should make a change. I respect

[6:36:21] that because that to me shows

[6:36:21] how responsive someone is

[6:36:31] trying to be.

[6:36:32] The only way we get better is

[6:36:33] be hold people accountable and

[6:36:33] we demand better. That's it.

[6:36:34] That's it. I've said before

[6:36:35] previously I don't like it when

[6:36:36] we do last-minute changes from

[6:36:40] the day us.

[6:36:40] They have been less but they

[6:36:41] are still having to certain

[6:36:51] examples the stock based on

[6:36:51] constituent

[6:36:52] feedback. And if

[6:36:53] it's based on board feedback,

[6:36:54] get it to us sooner. Get it to

[6:37:05] us sooner. Today's tuesday.

[6:37:06] I don't want to look at

[6:37:07] something at 7 o'clock. I

[6:37:08] really don't. When it should

[6:37:08] have been to us sooner. It's

[6:37:09] not fair to us. It's not fair

[6:37:10] to our constituents, it's not

[6:37:11] fair to staff. It is not fair.

[6:37:12] People who can do better should

[6:37:13] be doing better.

[6:37:16] And with that, unless anyone

[6:37:17] has anything us, we could stay

[6:37:19] here till 10:00 P.M.,

[6:37:19] >> moved to injured.

[6:37:20] >> second.

[6:37:24] >> it's not debatable, let's

[6:37:30] take a vote.

[6:37:34] >> I'm voting no to some still

[6:39:11] on my soapbox.

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