[8:48] Can I get a call to order? We have a quorum. And can I get a roll call?

[8:51] [sighs] >> Jay Tate

[8:53] » here. >> Greg Wheat

[8:54] » here. >> Tara Phillips

[8:55] » here. >> Adam Demerest

[8:56] » here. >> Bob Rule absent.

[8:58] » If you will please stand with me for the pledge of allegiance followed by a word

[9:02] of prayer by Sam Kloppenstein. I hope I pronounced that right. with the memorial

[9:07] assembly of God

[9:11] to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it

[9:16] stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice

[9:21] for all.

[9:28] You could bow your heads. Oh gracious heavenly father, we come before you this

[9:33] evening seeking your wisdom and guidance. Help these individuals as they

[9:37] work to serve this community. We pray clarity and understanding for each

[9:41] council member as they hear and discuss the issues that face our city. We ask

[9:46] your blessing upon Purcell and a bright future for our town. We thank you for

[9:51] your many blessings and for your faithfulness in our lives, Jesus. We

[9:54] commend this evening and all that is determined here to your divine guidance.

[9:59] May this meeting be productive and effective. In the name of Christ Jesus

[10:03] we pray. Amen. >> Thank you sir.

[10:09] Welcome everybody in the room and on Facebook or YouTube whatever your

[10:16] choice may be. Item number six discussion and possible

[10:22] action or five approval of the consent agenda.

[10:29] I'll make a motion to approve agenda item number five as written.

[10:33] » I'll second. >> We have a motion to second. Can I get a

[10:36] vote, please? >> Yes.

[10:37] » Phillips. >> Yes.

[10:39] » Yes. >> Yes. Motion passes. Item number seven,

[10:43] presentation and discussion of the treasures financial report.

[10:50] Good evening everybody. Um I have prepared a little PowerPoint to make it

[10:55] a little bit easier for all of us. Um so on this I'm just going to be giving the

[11:00] financial update um some of the and of utility billing update as well.

[11:10] » So for the um month of July in comparison to the uh July of last year

[11:17] uh we're pretty flat as far as tax revenue comes uh comes in.

[11:21] We were um under on our sales tax, but we made up for it in our use tax. About

[11:27] 88.6% um of that was made up, leaving only

[11:31] $1,943.89 um below last year.

[11:39] So, like I said in the previous slides, this is just going to give a more visual

[11:43] of them independently. So, this is going to show you the difference. we were

[11:47] about $16,987.90 under uh sales tax this year versus last

[11:53] year. And then for the use tax, we actually

[11:57] received an additional $15,000 um over last year. So, we this has been a

[12:02] consistent thing that we've been seeing. We're seeing that the timing uh the

[12:07] sales tax is down, the use tax is up. um trends the same way for different

[12:14] municipalities all across Oklahoma. People are, you know, doing more

[12:17] shopping online. Um so this next piece right here, um just giving you guys an

[12:22] update on the utility process that we have. So our previous company was um

[12:27] HC3. They are the people that we partnered

[12:31] with to do all of our printing and also mailing of our utility bills. um we are

[12:36] no longer um with them as of July 1st. We actually switched over to the state

[12:42] of Oklahoma, their central printing department. They will be doing all of

[12:45] our utility bill printing and mailing. So, of course, first thing, the

[12:49] benefits, we're going to lower cost. Um but also gives us stronger quality

[12:53] control for our um customers. With that being said, we're going to be able to um

[12:59] have a little bit more control on when things are sent out, how soon our

[13:03] residents get the um utility bills prior. We would send a file and hope

[13:09] within a few days they had it mailed out where the state's policy is same day

[13:13] delivery. So, a little bit about a few of the a

[13:17] few of the reasons that we switched um utility billing companies. Um so

[13:22] January's bill um everyone is aware had a pretty large mistake where they sent

[13:28] January's bill twice in place of February's bill. So it caused quite

[13:32] confusion for everybody in the community making it where we had to um you know

[13:36] post clarification and then wait with that. We did we were able to get a

[13:41] correct bill sent out and then we were able to extend the deadline so that we

[13:45] didn't have um people who were punished for receiving the bills late. Um, and

[13:50] then the most recent error that they had was sending Maze Bill twice. Uh, this

[13:55] wasn't the same as before because they mailed Maze Bill and then mailed it

[13:59] directly again a few days later. So, can we can we clarify real quick? I

[14:03] appreciate what you're saying. Is this it wasn't a PCEL city problem. Right.

[14:08] That's what I want everybody to understand whoever's listening. It's not

[14:11] a PCEL city problem. It was >> who we were using.

[14:14] » Yeah. So essentially the process was um

[14:18] utility billing team processed a file, submitted the file to HC3 and then HC3

[14:24] handled every step from there. Once they received the file they decided when it

[14:28] was mailed, how it was mailed. Um and what happened was they mailed the file

[14:33] they mailed May twice. The other they used January's file instead of February.

[14:37] These were things that were not we did all of our steps correct. there

[14:42] was nothing that we could have done outside of you know working in that

[14:45] company ourselves. So um these are you know two of the main reasons that we

[14:49] looked looked at additional um options when it comes to our utility billing and

[14:53] printing. Um finding a partner with a state I think was the best case

[14:57] scenario. You know they're already subsidized by state dollars and so

[15:01] therefore the cost of them to do the service is already lower than what HC3

[15:05] was um was billing us. So, hot topic, hot topic for everybody, the um current

[15:13] billing error. So, this had actually nothing to do with HC3. This had um

[15:17] everything to do with um locating an existing billing error and when we were

[15:22] in the process of fixing that error, utility bills processed. Um, I'm going

[15:28] to go over what the error was and that way we can kind of all understand um

[15:33] going forward so it's a little bit easier to um see how the mistake can

[15:38] happen. So the way that you're build is off of a tiered schedule. Um what that

[15:45] looks like is going to be different based on if you're residential or if

[15:49] you're commercial, but essentially it's going to be the amount of gallons that

[15:52] you are that you use your build for the portion which it falls. So what incode

[15:58] was doing as you can see up here next slide sorry as you can see up here um

[16:05] 1 to 499 gallons was being charged at as five units five 1000s which in reality

[16:13] we all know if you subtract 1 from 4,999 is actually four units. So how it should

[16:19] have been charged was at four units. So what did this mean to the customers?

[16:24] Next slide.

[16:28] So for the customers, it means that essentially every time they they went up

[16:32] a tier, they were being charged less than what they were supposed to for

[16:37] 1,000 gallons of water. Um I used an example of a 15,000galon bill. It

[16:43] resulted in a $1.90 89 undercharge. Now, this isn't a huge amount and some would

[16:51] say negligible, but when you're talking over 4,000 customers, and this is on a

[16:55] residential customer, it's much more um there's a much larger underbilling for a

[17:02] commercial customer. Um and so this over five years adds up to quite a bit.

[17:09] So, we can go to the next slide.

[17:14] So, like I said, the city was working on correcting how Encode calculated the

[17:17] tier charges. The accounting system processed online e billills while the

[17:22] correction was underway. Um, so then therefore the base charge that $12.99

[17:26] that you saw um and it's a different amount for the sewer was not applied to

[17:30] the bill. And so therefore, when the the correct bills went out, that's why there

[17:35] was any type of difference because that base charge was not applied there. Um,

[17:38] this was corrected by encode and we have we made sure that going forward they're

[17:42] all be built correctly. This also brought up a lot of other

[17:46] questions that we wanted that I wanted to be able to address here quickly. Um,

[17:50] a lot of people, you know, talk about how much we charge here in Purcell for

[17:54] the water um their water bill and other services that we provide them. So, um, I

[17:59] did a cost comparison for um, all the municipalities around us and water

[18:04] districts that I could locate that had their rates available online. And so

[18:07] this is going to show with an average customer, which uses about 6,000

[18:11] gallons, that's going to be about a fourperson household. Um what they would

[18:15] pay where they lived. So we ranked number two out of the um it says six.

[18:22] There's actually eight. You'll see in the next slide, but um of the eight

[18:24] people that we were compared to, we ranked number two only being beat by

[18:28] Noble. Um Lexington, slightly more, more slightly more. Washington and Newcastle

[18:34] were drastically more in their amounts that they um would have cost. This is

[18:39] going to show a breakdown of each of those charges. Um this is where you'll

[18:42] see those other two as well because Goulsby Water Authority and the Rural

[18:45] Water District 8, they don't have a sewer charge that's listed online. So um

[18:50] with that being said, this is something that we regularly do. I regularly make

[18:55] sure that our citizens are paying an appropriate amount for their water and

[18:59] sewer. and our rate only recently changed. Um I did run this using our old

[19:06] rates which were prior and also all of these cities rates that were um prior to

[19:12] any type of our change and we were drastically under all of them. Um

[19:16] whereas now we are like I said number two in comparison. So um just wanted to

[19:21] be able to provide this information. Anytime anybody has any questions I have

[19:24] this built into a spreadsheet. they can reach out to me and I can run that

[19:27] calculation for them or provide them with the spreadsheet that has all this

[19:31] information included.

[19:35] That's it. >> Yep.

[19:40] » Is there any way for you to put that online? It would kind of help.

[19:43] » So, it's a living document. um it's kind of hard for me to just like post it

[19:49] because at a certain point it will be outdated whenever someone else updates

[19:53] their um rates and so it would require constant maintenance. It's something

[19:57] that I can look at with um it to see if it's something that we could kind of

[20:02] build in but um as of right now it would be difficult but we can look at look

[20:08] into that more. >> Just if you could put as of September 8,

[20:12] 2026 here's where we stand. People can also request to see it.

[20:17] Correct. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, if they want to see that, they can

[20:19] call and request it or email it. >> Yeah, of course. And like I said, my my

[20:23] original plan was to have it online. Just with the way our website is

[20:26] currently, it's not as easy as I had hoped.

[20:30] » Thanks for finding that and fixing it even though it wasn't your error.

[20:35] Appreciate it. >> Of course. Thank you.

[20:40] Number

[20:46] eight, presentation and discussion of the city manager report.

[20:52] Uh last Friday, uh we had our end of summer

[20:58] bash for the uh city employees. That went really well. Everybody had a lot of

[21:02] fun. Um, not bragging or anything, but I came in first for cornhole and I didn't

[21:07] sign up for it, but [clears throat] but it was nice to see everybody and out

[21:14] there and they really were appreciative of uh being allowed to participate in

[21:19] all that kind of stuff. We'll start off with the Red Hill

[21:24] stairs. And I've got our wonderful engineer here in case I need him to

[21:30] chime in. But we've we only received one bid. Um September 2nd was the deadline

[21:38] for the the whoever the companies or however you

[21:43] want to say it to put in for the repair and it came in at $193,000.

[21:53] So, that being said, um we're going to review some more stuff on it and

[22:02] the next step would be to put it on the October agenda for you guys to approve

[22:09] the bid to move forward with it if everybody feels like that's what they

[22:13] want to do. >> Did it Did they show you what that

[22:15] encompasses? Was just one spot, the whole what? just the one section, but it

[22:20] it it includes it's very detailed, but it includes

[22:24] handrailings. I mean, that's going to be some additional stuff that was not there

[22:28] before, but a lot of that uh came into play because of the the erosion caused a

[22:36] good u distance like it would be a much greater fall

[22:42] than what it was back in the day before the erosion started. So, that's why I

[22:48] say uh they'll have handrails and all that kind of stuff on there,

[22:53] but [clears throat] it's it's just I I feel like it's the

[22:56] location.

[22:59] We're lucky that it's on that first section down, but it's still in a a

[23:04] section. I I believe the reason why we're not getting a bunch of bids

[23:09] is because of where it's at. Is that correct? I mean,

[23:12] » that's correct. the same time we went out to bid and what we did is we we took

[23:17] bids from local >> You come on up.

[23:21] » It's okay. Thank you. >> What we did is we took bids from from

[23:26] local foundation repair companies this time instead of just general

[23:30] contractors. And uh the one bid, like uh uh

[23:36] Bobby said, >> the one bid we got, they they dedicated

[23:40] and stated in writing they were going to get a structural engineer to do a full

[23:46] review of that area and replace anything that he said needed to be replaced. Uh

[23:53] they were also going to do a geotech. Um and that's part of the other thing we

[23:58] were doing. At the same time, I was try trying to get Geotech companies to, if

[24:04] you remember last month, we didn't get any bids the previous time because we

[24:08] didn't have Geotech. We tried to get Geotech to give us proposals, and I got

[24:13] three of them, all in the $5 to $7,000 range, but they all said, uh, that

[24:19] doesn't include any site preparation to get our truck in there. Well, you can't

[24:24] get a truck to that site. So, I went back to all three of them and said, "I

[24:29] need a lump sum bid for you to provide access." And I didn't get anyone to come

[24:33] back with me. So, I think we're on the right track doing this. I think that's,

[24:40] if I remember right, that's close to the estimate that CEC gave you for a total

[24:46] project, >> 14,000 under. I, you know, I think we

[24:49] could probably even get them to give us some shop drawings after they determine

[24:54] what needed to be uh replaced, but you know, we we can talk about that and

[24:59] bring something back. >> Is it erosion control and all of that or

[25:02] is it just fix what we have? Does that make sense?

[25:05] » It's fixing structurally. >> So, it's no other

[25:09] » We will we will look at that. My brother had some ideas. Uh there's probably a

[25:14] little bit coming off the road that gets there that could be solved with uh a

[25:19] little bit of uh uh paving uh a swale, a curb, something to prevent the road from

[25:26] coming off, but I don't think we're going to be able to do much with

[25:29] anything that falls on the the side of the hill and comes down.

[25:33] Now, are we looking at this from the perspective that this is going to fix

[25:36] the problem that is there right now and we're not going to just fix a little

[25:40] part of it and then five years from now have another thing go wrong with more

[25:45] erosion taking place? So, are we looking at the whole picture of the stairs or we

[25:49] just looking at one little part of it? >> Well, I need to I need to go back and

[25:53] see. They don't I don't think they really pinpointed we're going to look

[25:57] from A to B. They said they're going to look at the stairs and the landing. Um I

[26:03] would like to get out there when they get their structural guy out there and

[26:07] make sure there's no other problems.

[26:12] » So altogether because I think last month we were talking that it could be 400,000

[26:16] or more. So right now now we're back to that it could be like 200,000.

[26:20] » Yeah, it it that could be a little that could be a little better. Uh you know,

[26:24] they were a little vague on whether or not they were going to bring in the

[26:27] grouted rip wrap to protect the area down uh downstream. that could be an

[26:32] added expense later. Um, there was a few things that were vague simply because

[26:38] they haven't gotten a structural engineer on site yet either. So, we I

[26:43] think we need to pin a few things down with them other than just them do this

[26:48] and and all of a sudden we're back in here. Well, it didn't include it. So, we

[26:52] need to change order. Let's we need to we need to pinpoint them a little better

[26:56] before we say okay on it. >> I kind of agree with Adam here. is

[26:59] thinking right now we see the main problem is the

[27:04] platform, right? But that's a large stair system.

[27:07] » Yeah. >> We need to inspect the rest of it to see

[27:10] are there any other problems, you know, that need to be addressed along the way

[27:13] instead of just one thing >> when they're out there. We need to get

[27:17] them to look, you know, further down the road.

[27:19] » Yeah.

[27:23] That that being said, do you think the that we'll have those answers by next

[27:29] month? >> We we'll sure try.

[27:31] » We'll sure try. >> I was just curious like it doesn't have

[27:34] doesn't have to go on the October agenda, but

[27:38] » I'd like an idea. >> I'd like I'd like to, you know, we'd all

[27:42] like to get this done. Um it's if we've got someone willing to,

[27:48] you know, a month ago we didn't have anyone even willing to look at it. So

[27:52] we've at least now got someone willing to look at it. Let's let's uh let's meet

[27:58] with them and fine-tune what we've got and see if see if that's something the

[28:01] city wants to do. Thank you.

[28:08] » Uh staying at Red Hill, we've we've met with uh Team Rubicon on August 11th. So,

[28:16] Team Rubicon is a nonprofit group that travels

[28:22] and they

[28:25] they respond usually after disasters,

[28:31] but also uh help communities for the prevention of a disaster such as like

[28:38] the trees at Red Hill catching fire and the discussion that was made there's

[28:45] been a lot talk prior to meeting with them about we

[28:49] need to cut all the trees down. They're a fire hazard. Cutting all the trees

[28:53] down is just not feasible. Um what we've come up with is we're

[28:58] going to have to create a a fire break somewhere.

[29:05] There really needs to be one toward the east side where the the fieldhouse, not

[29:11] the fieldhouse, but the press box is at. They built everything really close to

[29:16] the trees. Um I've already spoke with the district.

[29:22] I'm going to leave that up to them to see what they want to do. But the more

[29:27] trees that we remove on either the east or the the com the the

[29:33] furthest east side or really most mostly the east side, the more that we're

[29:38] looking at dirt coming in onto the the school property.

[29:42] There are things that you can put in place like Kenny was talking about mats

[29:48] and different things that will prevent those type of issues, but they're really

[29:52] expensive. So, uh, we requested to meet with them on on

[29:59] the 17th of this month one more time. And I think we're gonna just have a

[30:05] discussion about creating a fire break to the northwest

[30:10] that will divide the section going into the residentials.

[30:15] There's a couple houses up there. Um, that would essentially give the fire

[30:19] department plenty of time to respond. And you know, if we get a big fire,

[30:25] hopefully they can get under control before it reaches a house.

[30:30] But if again, we can what if everything to death. A lot of embers go up, then we

[30:36] have a lot of issues with fires everywhere. But that's that seems to be

[30:43] the best solution is to create that fire break. And then um

[30:48] I brought up

[30:52] watching like games from the top of Red Hill. In the past, everybody pe people

[30:58] would go up there and was able to see the entire field. Now you can't you can

[31:02] only see a quarter of it now because the trees have all grown up. So that'll be

[31:06] part of the discussion with them to see if we can trim some

[31:10] trees down to get the you know just for view purposes. Uh, but that's going to

[31:16] be our goal here coming up pretty quick. Again, it's nonprofit. They don't charge

[31:22] us anything. If the city can help in any way, um, that's usually

[31:29] what happens at other places. Cities will chip in what they can. We We

[31:34] probably will. And it it it would probably look like a a loader or

[31:39] something removing trees out of their way while they're cutting stuff down. Uh

[31:42] maybe renting a chipper, I don't know. But um that's going to be our solution

[31:47] for the Red Hill. Removing all the trees is a really bad idea like we've all

[31:52] talked about. We think the erosion at the stairs is bad. If we did something

[31:57] like that, we'd sure wish we didn't. But uh you have any questions about

[32:05] » that organization? I was going to ask is that if you remove those trees and the

[32:09] roots from that system, it's going to cause more erosion and speed up that

[32:13] process. And if we're going to be fixing the stairs as it is, aren't we just

[32:17] creating another problem on top of what we already have?

[32:22] » Right. And if you leave stumps everywhere, how does that look, too?

[32:26] It's just it's not a simple solution out there. It's I think the fire break is

[32:30] going to be the the best solution that we've got. And it's not just me showing

[32:36] out up out there with the engineer and team Rubicon and our emergency manager.

[32:40] We have the MLAN County emergency manager coming out along with uh his

[32:46] associates. We've got uh the fire chief.

[32:51] I mean, we have a lot of people involved out coming out there and having a

[32:54] discussion about this. It's not just a PCEL problem, you know, just a few of us

[33:00] talking about it. We're We've got a group little group going.

[33:05] » And Bobby, I have another question with the stairs, especially since we know

[33:09] there's an erosion problem and the potential danger of people going up

[33:13] there, especially kids going on those stairs. How do we have that roped off or

[33:18] secured off to prevent that? Because I have heard um that there have been some

[33:23] kids and stuff up on those steps. they're going to continue to to do it.

[33:28] But the answer to your question is it was roped off. It was taped off. They

[33:33] just break it. Uh so I had them put jersey barriers on the top and the the

[33:40] bottom section with a sign and if somebody ignores those signs and goes

[33:46] around them, we can't stop. We can't post somebody out there 247

[33:51] and then something happens. I mean, we can only do so much.

[33:56] That's really that's all we can do. Nobody's going to be able to move a

[33:59] jersey barrier by hand anyway or four or five friends. It's not going to happen.

[34:10] Off to the next subject. Uh do the property where the old hospital was.

[34:16] Domino. I've been in contact with uh the owner. Um, building permit has

[34:24] been submitted. The ODOT driveway agreement I've signed off on and it's

[34:30] been sent for approval on August 20th. Not quite sure why it needs an approval.

[34:36] There's already a driveway there. Um, they ripped out the paved parking

[34:42] lot this last week. Dirt work supposed to start uh this week or next.

[34:50] should take probably four to five weeks for the dirt work. Uh that will also

[34:56] include the water detention for the entire nine nine acres. All necessary

[35:02] utility relocations been completed during construction.

[35:06] Uh construction should be completed on the store in 7 to

[35:11] 8 months and then marketing for pad sites is ongoing

[35:17] which I believe is the development of the rest of the block.

[35:28] We'll go with the school crossing. um did some research on the school

[35:34] crossing for the junior high and high school.

[35:37] Spoke with a BJ Hawkins with TA TEC traffic engineering consultants. They're

[35:45] the ones that performed the last three traffic studies for the city. Um one of

[35:50] them was on North 9th in front of the elementary school where we did the

[35:54] improvements up there. um they did the traffic study for the crossing at the

[36:00] junior high high school. So he was involved in all of it. Um according to

[36:06] him, they were tasked with one for doing the

[36:10] traffic study, two working with ODOT and and try to find funding for the city to

[36:15] make this happen. Um it was mostly talked about to be a roundabout, not so

[36:23] much a traffic light. Um the big hurdle right now is

[36:29] funding. So if ODOT he's he's reaching out to the certain

[36:37] individuals at ODOT to re-engage with them to see if there's any possibility

[36:43] that that they would help us with the project.

[36:46] Um if they don't then it's strictly up to us to fund the

[36:53] project. So, that being said, if

[36:58] that's the case, I've already spoke with Win and, you know, going to the the

[37:03] grant writer to find something that that would help with this.

[37:07] If we can't find a grant, then it's all the city all the city funds, which I

[37:12] don't know what something like that would cost, but I imagine it'll be in

[37:16] the millions. Um

[37:22] and again a lot of what that will consist of is

[37:27] uh signalization

[37:32] turn lanes uh sidewalks etc. Um,

[37:41] and I don't remember I remember uh the conversations during the meeting back in

[37:46] 22 or 23, but I don't recall if they were if we had to do a a

[37:53] sidewalk that it should extend all the way over to Hallmark or what the

[37:58] conversations were. But right now, I'm going to wait until I get uh in touch

[38:04] back in touch with Mr. Hawkins to see what he's got to say.

[38:09] For me to order a traffic study for $5,000 is not going to do any good

[38:15] whatsoever if we don't have the funding to do what we need to get done.

[38:20] It's just we're not spending the money wisely and then next thing we know

[38:27] uh all this time's went by again and then and the reason

[38:30] » then we're told that we have to do another traffic study or whatever the

[38:33] case may be. So traffic studies are timed is what you're saying. We could if

[38:37] we tried to invest the money for a traffic study now and it timed out

[38:40] because we didn't >> Yeah. We don't have

[38:42] » we don't have we don't have anything to >> Right. Just making sure everybody

[38:46] understand >> and I don't know if a traffic study is

[38:48] really the first step or not. It could be some kind of ser uh topographical

[38:52] survey. I don't know. I mean, Kenny might be

[38:55] able to chime in a little bit on this, but right now it's just uh until we hear

[39:00] something back or have a grant to look at

[39:03] where we know what what the first step is that and what direction to take,

[39:09] then we'll get going on that. But, I mean,

[39:11] » does the school have any concerns or opinions? I mean, have you visited with

[39:17] them at all about this whole thing as well? I'm sure you have, but what what

[39:20] are we hearing from that side of things?

[39:25] and they have concerns just like everybody else does. I mean, the kids

[39:29] crossing the street, but >> and they did once we have more

[39:34] information from my remembering of the meeting, um the assistant superintendent

[39:40] actually was there and they would I'm not going to say be willing to help

[39:46] pay for it, but they would they want to be involved because they want to see

[39:50] something happen. So, I'm sure once we have more information, then we can have

[39:54] another meeting with them and see if [clears throat] maybe they can, you

[39:58] know, pay half or something. >> There was a lot of talk that that ODOT

[40:04] was willing to help back during that time frame.

[40:09] I can't I can't really find anything on that. Um,

[40:13] so unless Mr. Hawkins comes back and and says, you

[40:17] know, I spoke with some so and so at at ODOT or, you know, whatever. And and I

[40:23] try to figure out exactly what a project like this would cost. Um,

[40:28] it's really going to be the grant writers. What kind of grants are out

[40:32] there? And if if there there are grants like when have mentioned in the past

[40:37] where we can apply for it and the school district can also apply for for it, you

[40:43] know, that they don't consider, oh, this person's already applied for this, you

[40:46] can't. I mean, that's our best scenario for that that project, I believe. and

[40:53] the school did let us know that they would be willing to do that. Apply for

[40:56] any grants that we find that are >> they did or did not.

[40:59] » They did that they that they would >> that they would.

[41:01] » Yeah. >> So, it's just keep the communication

[41:04] open with the school district and um >> I feel like they definitely see the need

[41:12] of something happening out there. I mean, it's pretty bad.

[41:17] I mean, do you feel like putting those speed limit signs up there and the

[41:21] lights, have that helped diminish any of the driving fast or do you think it's

[41:27] » Absol? Absolutely they have. As soon as >> as soon as somebody sees the red and

[41:31] blues going off, they're stabbing the brakes.

[41:34] » So, yes, it it absolutely helped tremendously.

[41:39] There's going to still be those some that have no idea what's going on around

[41:43] them and are going to speed on through, but

[41:46] um hopefully they don't get caught by the police, get

[41:51] a ticket. >> And honestly, I feel like the two main

[41:54] issues, at least for me, is um the kids having to cross the street, they're

[42:01] playing Frogger, and two um the release traffic. So, at the end of the school

[42:08] day, that's when you're seeing it the worst because it's like a stalemate.

[42:12] Nobody knows what to do. People obviously failed that part of their

[42:16] driver's test on how to do um the [clears throat]

[42:20] whatever that's called, the median. So that's

[42:24] and I did assign the guys last week to review what we had going on out there

[42:30] because there's there's a line of cars on Green Avenue waiting for pickup and

[42:36] we have people exiting from the same same area that want to go southbound. So

[42:44] nobody will let them in. Instead of that person just turning and going north and

[42:49] then, you know, turning around at the next uh turn to make it more efficient,

[42:55] these people are waiting, which is causing more of a headache. But uh

[43:02] » our guys, we had the drone up twice looking at the big the big picture and

[43:08] and we just can't see. It's It's flowing the best it can for

[43:13] what we have right now. And short of putting somebody out there off of Green

[43:18] Avenue, primarily working traffic and and making

[43:22] somebody go north or trying to stop somebody on the state highway going

[43:27] northbound so somebody can go across and go south. I mean, it's just

[43:32] we don't have the manpower for that.

[43:37] we might have somebody available, but again my point of leaving parts of the

[43:43] city open, taking a police officer away, you know,

[43:47] that those type of things. So, I don't know.

[43:50] The school has their resources going on right there. Also, directing traffic

[43:56] just to the east, closer to the schools, but

[44:07] try. Everything costs money. >> Thanks at least for doing your due

[44:12] diligence and trying. You're trying to figure it out. So, I appreciate that.

[44:16] So, [snorts]

[44:20] » see, [clears throat] we'll move on to parks.

[44:26] So, you guys have already approved the

[44:31] the field out at the lake to be refurbished for a practice field. So,

[44:37] that's on our our uh capital improvement plan for this year. The parks board have

[44:44] met and had a discussion about it. would like to bring up some points that

[44:49] they've they would like [snorts] you to hear that

[44:54] some facilities throughout the city can be utilized a little bit better than

[44:57] what we currently have them at. So, if we I'd like Clint to come up here and

[45:04] and explain it and uh later on we can have a discussion. If it's something

[45:10] that we're interested in doing, then you know, we can put it on the the ag next

[45:15] agenda or agenda afterward and vote to go that direction.

[45:23] But right now, they were continuing to work to to make

[45:27] what the field is supposed to be, the practice field. But we're prioritizing

[45:32] our uh projects right now. We just can't do all the projects at once and tie all

[45:37] the money up or may not have enough money. So, uh, that's

[45:42] still on

[45:47] ongoing to to be done this fiscal year, just not anytime like within the next

[45:54] month or two, if that makes any sense. So, that being said, Clint, go ahead and

[46:01] give your speech, sir. >> Okay. So, good evening.

[46:06] Um, so me and Serena and Matt Martinez with the

[46:11] street department. We all met at all these different locations. Delta, I

[46:17] don't know if you guys know where the Delta field is, McCertie Park, and um

[46:24] out at the lake. Um, we looked over these areas to

[46:30] go over the best options of making these areas more

[46:36] usable for the uh for practice, for not just for softball, but for other sports.

[46:46] Um, we've gone over the the cost and the material list. Matt

[46:53] did. He checked it all out and uh we would save a significant amount of money

[46:59] um by doing this in house um parks department, street department. Um he's

[47:06] willing to help out in any way that he can. Um

[47:12] so that being said, we've gone over some prices for improving Delta.

[47:18] Um, replacing some chain link, putting some

[47:21] bases in them, making it making it a field, not just a grass area there. Um,

[47:29] but making it usable field for softball, little league, t-ball, whatever. Uh,

[47:36] that those prices are about $2,300. Um, McCertie

[47:43] Park, we've gone over Yeah,

[47:48] » question got brought up is >> we make improvements to

[47:54] the Delta >> park.

[47:57] So, I'm looking at new bases, pitching rubber, home plate, uh

[48:03] spring spraying the weeds, handicap, >> accessible portable restrooms.

[48:09] » Was the discussion made about ADA compliance?

[48:15] » Yeah. to that to that particular field. >> Well, we did discuss it and what we came

[48:20] up with is because we are not building something new, we're maintaining what's

[48:25] there that the uh

[48:32] shaking your head >> probably not

[48:37] » it's the same scenario as the lake field. Well, we weren't

[48:41] » probably not make sure we all understand what you mean by that.

[48:45] » Well, I mean there's different categories.

[48:51] » That's what I was That's what I'm getting at. So,

[48:53] » that's where I was >> like I want to make sure we all we're

[48:56] all on the same page because you were asking a question. I want make sure that

[49:00] we're all clear when everybody's listening.

[49:04] » Structural changes, those are going to be your biggest one that's going to

[49:07] cause it to be triggered. >> Yeah. replacing chain link. Is that

[49:13] does that trigger it? >> If the I mean it's just going to

[49:17] replacing chain link is a very broad term. We're replacing a panel like I

[49:20] mean it's going to be more detailed than just

[49:22] » I know cuz my concern is that I was told that if we were to make the lake field a

[49:28] soft like renovate that the moment we touch it it has to be ADA compliant. So

[49:34] now it doesn't for Delta like I'm just

[49:38] » the problem with the lake field is that the structure itself was rusted and

[49:41] rotted and had to been removed. If there like let's say there's a section of

[49:46] fencing that just needs new um actual chain link established to the existing

[49:52] posts and everything. That's a different story than like replacing full dugouts

[49:57] and you know access and access points. There's a lot more to it, but um it just

[50:02] depends on the scope of work. I haven't seen it. Okay.

[50:05] » Well, I don't think there's any anything out there, is there?

[50:08] » It's a back stop. >> Just a back stop.

[50:13] » Right. >> So, if you're adding structure that's

[50:16] different, we're not adding the back stop is there already. Well, if you're

[50:20] adding the the fencing, you're you're actually So, when you're adding the

[50:23] He'll be able to give you better clarification, but when you're adding

[50:26] the fencing to it, you're the way that it talks about is the

[50:31] actual current function of um getting to and from,

[50:35] » you're changing that. And so, therefore, it would need to be 88.

[50:38] » So, I don't just mention though that if it's a practice T-ball field, we don't

[50:42] necessarily need events. >> Just saying.

[50:45] » Probably I want to make sure I'm understanding too. When you're talking

[50:48] about the Delta place, you're not saying you're adding fencing around the whole

[50:52] field. You're just replacing the fence on the back stop.

[50:55] » That's on the back. >> So you're on the on the delta field,

[50:59] you're just repairing the fence on >> the back stop. That's it. You're not

[51:04] adding any other fence. You're not adding correct

[51:07] » any structures there. You're just replacing that fence panel.

[51:10] » That's correct. The other question I have though isn't Delta ADA compliant

[51:14] itself, the building, the school that's over there or we

[51:18] » not the field. >> Yeah, I know. But the field is right

[51:21] next to >> They're not part of the the field.

[51:24] They're not even part >> our lease with them has nothing to do

[51:27] with the field or anything. I don't think it there's anything that really

[51:31] connects the two. Yeah, I get where you're going with that.

[51:35] » It's it's it's all about >> it's all about if you think of the way

[51:40] Yeah. they park >> ramps

[51:43] » from their car, walk there. For one, we can't make someone we can't make them

[51:48] allow us to utilize any of their spaces that are already um dictated in their

[51:53] lease. Um and then also [clears throat] there's still no connectivity there. So

[51:58] that's >> So anyway, I didn't want to spend a lot

[52:01] of time on this. I just [clears throat] wanted to say keep that part in mind if

[52:06] you guys didn't think of that. So just real quick go over uh soccer all that

[52:12] different stuff what can be utilized and what what was better about it.

[52:15] » So the idea was to there there are the soccer fields that are at Mccuri. We

[52:20] were going to move those to the lake field where that old softball field was.

[52:27] There's currently a flag football team that practices there

[52:33] quite often. We feel like the space is large enough to accommodate both sports

[52:36] in that area. Um so we don't have to designate the entire area to one sport.

[52:45] Um build a fence around that area and not

[52:49] be able to utilize it for anything else ever.

[52:54] So that was the idea behind that. Yeah, I mean I like the idea. I actually

[53:00] talked to Andy about this before, but the question came up about but if we

[53:05] work on Delta, does it still need to be ADA compliant? Because that's what I was

[53:08] told about the lake field. But just as a suggestion,

[53:13] McCertie Park would be we okay. So if we have two

[53:18] fields, you could delta is too small for anything above AU. So when people

[53:24] reserve them, what could also help is Delta could be reserved for 8U and below

[53:29] and McCertie for 10U and up. That way the 10U and up teams aren't being

[53:35] blocked out because you have T-ball teams when there's another field that

[53:38] they could use. You know what I mean? So I don't know if that's allowed

[53:42] discrimination or something. They do that at PBSA. They have certain fields

[53:47] that are designated for different age groups. So just a suggestion. I mean, I

[53:51] wouldn't think that it would be, but I would

[53:53] » Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't think so either, but just looking at everything

[53:56] on record, >> that they're they're still can they can

[54:00] still utilize soccer at Delta, not Delta, U McCertie Park to where they're

[54:06] they're currently doing it at. Um, that would just give two other two places for

[54:12] soccer. They would mark the lake field with the paint, you know, all that stuff

[54:18] to mark it off for for the soccer. Um,

[54:23] it I think it's really picking up in our community. The schools already endorsed

[54:28] the soccer is it junior high and up or is it

[54:33] just high school? >> High school.

[54:35] » But we've got a lot of adults too that like to go out different locations in

[54:40] the city to to play also. But I think it's a great idea to be honest. I mean,

[54:44] if we can get Delta up to par and what it needs to be dirt so that way it can

[54:48] be used for baseball and softball. I'm with you. The lake field then you're not

[54:53] taking it from one group of kids and giving it to someone else. It's open for

[54:57] everyone. I think that's great. And it'd be even better once the grass is green.

[55:02] » It look really pretty. I know. >> Next summer. [laughter]

[55:04] » Yeah, maybe. >> So, their their guesstimation

[55:08] » is $10,000 give or take. um

[55:14] the lake field to to re rehab that just to be a a practice field I believe was

[55:20] it around $100,000. >> So it's a it's a large gap. But again,

[55:27] if the $10,000 turns into a lot more than that, then of course I

[55:34] will come back to council and explain what's going on and and uh keep

[55:38] everybody in the loop to see if that's still what we want to continue with.

[55:45] Clint, thank you and thank the board um the parks and rec board because that is

[55:49] a very good idea, I think, to save not just the city money, but it allows the

[55:53] fields then to be multi-purpose fields. And like, um, Terra's already said,

[55:58] that's important that that allows a lot of other things to happen. And I still

[56:02] think even with the Lakefield, I mean, if a softball team wanted to go out

[56:05] there, there's still room out there for them to use that as well.

[56:13] » All right. Appreciate it. Hold on. I had a couple quick questions

[56:19] on a different subject. Uh, how is the book library coming at the multi-purpose

[56:25] center? >> So, the uh

[56:30] the crafter group was working on that.

[56:35] » Um, I know that it's got the first layer of paint on it, but I'll as far as when

[56:41] it's finished, I'll I'll have to get back with you.

[56:44] And uh what would be your and the chief's thoughts of putting one at the

[56:49] splash pad at Red Hill and I'll take responsibility for it.

[56:55] » Thoughts on what? >> Free book library putting it at the

[56:59] splash pad. >> Oh,

[57:01] » I'll pay for it. Put it up. >> I don't care where it's at.

[57:06] » Permission to put it there. I got no problem with that.

[57:13] » You can fill out and >> because we have one in front of our

[57:17] house and it's very well used. So >> yeah,

[57:20] » I mean if it's just a donation of like time and you know we have a donation

[57:23] form that you can fill out for parks and recreation and that will be um signed

[57:28] off on and >> we'll take care of the material. Just

[57:30] tell me where you want it and we'll >> Okay. Thank you.

[57:35] » Clint, one more um question for you. I know that you guys just started

[57:38] resurfacing the courts, the tennis courts out there on Wednesday. How's

[57:42] that going? >> I It's coming along well. I really

[57:45] didn't know what to expect with it. Um it's taking a longer than I expected to

[57:50] get that first layer, get that layer off. Um

[57:58] but they are uh I spoke with the the owner of the company this morning. and

[58:03] they are expected to be finished by the middle to end of next week.

[58:11] » So, >> and then last thing I had was the bike

[58:14] race that just occurred in August. How did that go?

[58:18] » It went really well. There was a a big turnout with the racers. I think there

[58:22] was a

[58:25] 30 35 racers I think with their families.

[58:31] I think that's right. Um there's a big turnout. There was a lot of people out

[58:35] there at the lake. It was went really well. They um Nika was

[58:42] really impressed with the area that we have, the the location that we have.

[58:46] They're interested in coming back with a few more events throughout the year. So,

[58:54] good things.

[58:58] » Thank you. Anything else? >> One more thing. Not just

[59:05] » that that concludes my report. >> Thank you, sir. Item number nine, uh,

[59:11] discussion and possible action to approve resolution number 26-C15,

[59:16] a resolution of the city of Purcell estab establishing minimum purchasing

[59:20] limits in accordance with article 4, section 3 of the city charter, providing

[59:26] for a repealer, providing for severability, and an effective date.

[59:32] This would basically give our city manager the ability to

[59:38] sign checks up to 50. >> So it wouldn't be signing the checks. Um

[59:43] it would be uh granting the PO the authority to do the work uh signing

[59:47] contracts. So uh this is something that is in line with a lot of our um

[59:54] municipalities that are the same size of us. I mean, the one that is in closest

[59:57] size and relation to us would be in Newcastle, and theirs is the exact same

[1:00:00] would be would be the exact same amount. Um, everything is still the same as far

[1:00:05] as the final approval. So, that check is still there where the city council will

[1:00:09] still be signing the check. It's just more or less um with the contracts or

[1:00:14] purchases not having to have that 30 day 30-day delay on something that you know

[1:00:20] back whenever our charter was originally written that was a a ton of money where

[1:00:24] unfortunately now it's not as much and so things as costs go up so would this

[1:00:30] » right all all the the purchases remain subject to applicable competit

[1:00:36] competitive bidding um grant requirements and financial controls.

[1:00:43] » And we can change this again down the road if we have to

[1:00:46] » change it anytime. >> Yeah, it just I think the you can't go

[1:00:50] below 7,500 because that's what our charter says, but everything anything in

[1:00:54] between you could do. >> Motion that we approve agenda item

[1:00:59] number nine. >> I'll second a motion to second. Can I

[1:01:02] get a vote? >> Yes.

[1:01:04] » Phillips. >> Yes.

[1:01:05] » Yes. >> Yes. Motion passes. Item number 10.

[1:01:09] discussion and possible action to approve a utility relocation agreement

[1:01:13] between Oklahoma Turnpike Authority and the city of Purcell concerning

[1:01:17] relocation of I35 water tower SE-27607A

[1:01:24] UR number 80 water tower relocation project

[1:01:40] doesn't want to come up.

[1:01:49] » Yes.

[1:01:53] » No, I don't have anything with you right now. I'm sorry about that.

[1:01:55] » It's okay. No, you're good. Uh, this is just going to be the agreement with the

[1:01:59] Oklahoma Turnpike Authority for um them paying for the relocation of our water

[1:02:03] tower and existing infrastructure that's um along with it. This is going to be um

[1:02:08] everything excluding the actual purchase of the land. Um as well as any real

[1:02:12] property that's listed on the land such as the radio tower.

[1:02:19] » Yeah. >> Which we're getting to next.

[1:02:22] » Which we're getting to next. >> All right. I I motion to approve agenda

[1:02:26] item number 10. >> Second.

[1:02:29] » We have a motion to second. Can I get a vote, please?

[1:02:32] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:02:33] » Phillips. >> Yes.

[1:02:35] » Yes. Motion passes. is item number. >> I apologize. [laughter]

[1:02:40] » Normally I'm ready, but >> yeah.

[1:02:42] » Well, I told him he could go home early, so now he's

[1:02:44] » Yeah. know. Yeah. [laughter] Item number 11, discussion and possible

[1:02:48] action to approve joint resolution number 26-c13/26-P5,

[1:02:54] a joint resolution of the city of Purcell and Purcell Public Works

[1:02:58] Authority authorizing the city manager to approve and execute expenditures for

[1:03:02] the OTAA water tower relocation project in an amount not to exceed 12,465,300.

[1:03:10] » So, this is a little bit um of what we just previously talked about. Of course,

[1:03:14] we accepted that contract. We'll be receiving $12,465,300.

[1:03:19] Um, we have we're awarding those funds to First United. They'll be the ones

[1:03:23] holding that money while we're doing the project. We did an RFP. Um, with that

[1:03:27] being said, this also allows the city manager's purchase um authority for this

[1:03:31] project alone to not be limited um up into 12,465,300.

[1:03:39] meaning that this is going to be a project that we're going to be working

[1:03:41] on at um a fast pace and so days matter. We have to have this fully completed um

[1:03:48] by January of 2028. And so with that being said, this does two things. Of

[1:03:54] course, accepting the funds, but then also allowing the city manager to um

[1:03:58] have that p that purchasing authority for this project.

[1:04:06] » Make a motion to approve agenda item 11 as written. I'll second.

[1:04:10] » We have a motion, a second. Can I get a vote, please?

[1:04:12] » Yes. >> Phillips.

[1:04:14] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:04:16] » Yes. Motion passes. Item number 12. >> Good.

[1:04:19] » Thank you. >> Good job.

[1:04:20] » Good job, Marcos. >> Don't get comfortable. You're coming

[1:04:25] back up here in a second. >> So, um, similar to 11, this is going to

[1:04:29] be 12. This is going to be >> Hold on. I got to read it first. I

[1:04:31] thought >> I don't mean to interrupt you. Sorry.

[1:04:34] Number 12, discussion and possible action to approve resolution 26-C14A,

[1:04:39] resolution of the city of Purcell, authorizing the city manager to approve

[1:04:43] and execute expenditures for the 2026 hangar construction project related to

[1:04:48] the Purcell municipal airport in an amount not to exceed 910,000 and

[1:04:53] providing for an effective date. >> This is going to be the exact same as I

[1:04:58] said before. This is a project that you guys have already approved. This just

[1:05:01] gives the city manager the ability to um approve for all things that have to do

[1:05:06] with this project up to the amount of the project. This is going to be

[1:05:09] something that we're going to do regularly. Um you hopefully next time

[1:05:12] it'll be like the first one where everything's on the same agenda so you

[1:05:16] know what we're what exactly it's referencing. Um but again because you're

[1:05:19] approving the project all things that have to do with the project go along

[1:05:23] with it. >> I motion that we approve agenda agenda

[1:05:27] item number 12. >> Second. We have a motion, a second. Can

[1:05:31] I get a vote? >> Yes.

[1:05:33] » Yes. >> Phillips.

[1:05:34] » Yes. >> Yes. Motion passes. Item number 13,

[1:05:37] discussion and possible action to approve pre-consil meetings and set

[1:05:41] formal date and time of pre-consil meetings.

[1:05:45] » Councilman Demer, this was your idea, so I'll let you speak.

[1:05:50] My idea behind this um came when I went to the meeting um for people that were

[1:05:56] elected as municipal officials that other cities are doing the same thing.

[1:06:00] They meet a week before the city council meeting. They meet in a informal

[1:06:06] setting. They sit down and that way they can actually discuss the agenda ahead of

[1:06:11] time. Um, in a lot of cases for us, we get the agenda ahead of time and we can

[1:06:15] go see Andy um, one in one or with two people. This would give us the ability

[1:06:21] to actually sit down as a group and sit down and discuss items and brainstorm

[1:06:26] ideas before we ever got here, which I think is a great idea because I think

[1:06:31] when you get up in front of people, I think sometimes people tend to react a

[1:06:35] little bit differently and not have a lot of thought process behind some of

[1:06:39] the things that they're going to do or say at that time. So, it would give us

[1:06:42] some preparation beforehand. It also let us have meaningful conversations um that

[1:06:48] we probably would not have otherwise. And my idea would be is do it on a

[1:06:53] Wednesday or Thursday the week before um we were going to have that like at a

[1:06:58] lunchtime or something like that. So people that could make it could be

[1:07:02] there.

[1:07:06] » Just some context on the meeting to provide some clarifying points. Um, even

[1:07:11] though it would be informal to the council, it would still be susceptible

[1:07:14] to the Open Meetings Act. Um, it would still be open to the public. Um, agendas

[1:07:20] would still be needed, minutes would still need to be recorded. Um, so it

[1:07:24] would still have to comply with all of those points for the meeting to be able

[1:07:28] to exist. So, >> I actually put a lot of thought into

[1:07:32] this one, so I had to type out a bunch of stuff. So, I'm just going to read it.

[1:07:36] I did my pros and cons because I'll be honest, when I first started doing this

[1:07:40] a year ago, that was also my thought, but I've learned a lot since then. And

[1:07:46] my the pro what is definitely I'm just going to read exactly what I have on

[1:07:50] here. Discuss openly with each other so we can hear each other's thoughts on

[1:07:54] certain matters. And you're right, and have good conversation to go back and

[1:07:57] forth. However, the cons that I have thought really hard on are the

[1:08:02] following. We [snorts] have it's another appointment on an already busy schedule.

[1:08:07] I don't know that I could add another meeting to have a meeting about this

[1:08:14] meeting. You know what I mean? Um so basically it goes into my second thing.

[1:08:19] It would be redundant since we would only be able to talk about and go over

[1:08:22] what is on that agenda at the live meetings. So which leads into the other

[1:08:26] thing then the live meetings we wouldn't have anything to discuss because we've

[1:08:29] already talked about it. Um, but my biggest thing on this is I don't like

[1:08:36] the idea of any type of perception that we as council are trying to hide

[1:08:41] information. And yes, while it might be an open meeting, it still could give

[1:08:45] that perception. So for me, I would never want the public to think that

[1:08:50] we're having quote unquote secret meetings, even though it's open. I

[1:08:55] understand that, but a lot of people probably would not understand that. Um,

[1:09:01] and for me, I meet with Andy, when Bobby I mean, I take that that's our

[1:09:08] responsibility. We should all be doing that anyway when we go over the agenda.

[1:09:13] Um, last week it was uh Jay, myself, Andy, Wyn, and Bobby.

[1:09:21] And honestly, that was beneficial. Um, and I think that if we did something

[1:09:26] like that and we just rotate it, it doesn't need to be the same two people

[1:09:30] each week that does that and then after that you can call and have your

[1:09:35] conversations. I mean, so that's kind of my stance on it.

[1:09:39] » Andy, you have a this is going to directly affect you. So if you would

[1:09:46] like to speak

[1:09:49] [laughter] >> that was Jay.

[1:09:51] » There's your sign. Now, it will be um I I talked to Chris

[1:09:57] about it. Um

[1:10:01] it is subject to the Open Meetings Act. It will be a it'll be a totally separate

[1:10:06] agenda because it's not a actionable agenda. So, it's going to be a

[1:10:11] completely different agenda than what I'm preparing for the actual meeting

[1:10:15] a week ahead of time. I don't know if you noticed the

[1:10:19] drastic changes from the agenda that you get on Monday to the agenda that you get

[1:10:24] on Friday, but most of the stuff comes in in that that week. Um,

[1:10:31] so there now if there are big things you want to discuss, I mean, we can always

[1:10:35] do if there is something big on, you know, a big agenda item that we need to

[1:10:38] discuss, we can always do a special meeting,

[1:10:41] » you know, and have a have a what do you call that?

[1:10:46] » Yeah. special meeting.

[1:10:48] » It's a special meeting, but there's a word for it. I'm having a brain space.

[1:10:52] But >> that's exactly what I was going to say.

[1:10:54] We could do it on a case by case [clears throat] basis. So, if we have

[1:10:56] something of larger scale coming up that sometimes it would be nice to be able to

[1:11:03] go to the co local coffee shop and talk amongst ourselves, but I know we can't

[1:11:08] legally do it that way. I know we've done we've done some for the water

[1:11:13] department when they were trying to get the capital improvement plan for the

[1:11:16] water department and all of the things. We had a special meeting just for that

[1:11:19] and it was an open disc I mean we had an agenda but we had an open discussion

[1:11:22] about that particular item. So big items like that you can work session is what

[1:11:27] they called it. >> I can totally understand what Councilman

[1:11:30] Demerest is saying. You know, there are so many hard topics and agenda items

[1:11:37] that come before us on a regular basis and it you've got to try your best to

[1:11:40] get your arms around it and study it as much as you can. And so I I appreciate

[1:11:46] the the thought behind what Councilman Dimmer is saying. I also know too, I can

[1:11:53] see what um you

[1:11:56] » call me Terara. >> Tara

[1:11:58] is saying as well. Well, I'm trying to be professional, but

[1:12:01] » um but personally, I think I do my best as all the other council members to to

[1:12:08] study the agenda, study the topics, everything that's coming before us. I

[1:12:12] try to look at it and study it as much as I can. If I have questions, I do go

[1:12:16] up and talk to Andy or our city to get clarifications about things in that

[1:12:22] process. Um, and even then, this is an open meeting where anybody in the

[1:12:27] public, the the agendas are posted. Anybody in the public can come and hear

[1:12:32] what we're talking about here and give their opinion in a council meeting. Not

[1:12:37] very many people do that, but they're able to do that. So, um, I appreciate

[1:12:42] the the thought, um, Adam. Uh but personally I personally feel like you

[1:12:48] know we are doing what we're doing now in a sufficient and efficient way. Um

[1:12:54] that's just my two cents. So one thing I would like to add is that I

[1:13:00] think my view of looking at things is a lot from being on teams running teams

[1:13:07] and being on effective boards. And I do know that when you are working with any

[1:13:12] type of board or any type of group, if you don't come together and you don't

[1:13:16] meet together and you don't go over things together, there's always going to

[1:13:20] be things that slip through. And when you look at some of the meetings even

[1:13:23] that we've had in the past where we're asking questions that I think if we had

[1:13:27] been together beforehand, we would have had a better pattern. We wouldn't be

[1:13:31] asking redundant questions. We'd be able to do that. I do understand what um you

[1:13:36] know, Congresswoman Phillips is saying and Congressman Wheat and and stuff and

[1:13:41] I and I definitely understand where Andy's coming from too because it does

[1:13:44] put a lot on her her plate. I'm just saying that's just from my perspective

[1:13:48] and my experience when I look at things that just like for example coming up the

[1:13:53] hospital board's going to have a strategic planning meeting. There's a

[1:13:56] reason why they meet together to go over things that even though you have an

[1:14:00] agenda, even though you have it ahead ahead of time, but it was a suggestion

[1:14:04] that, like I said, I came up with when I went to that meeting, too, because I

[1:14:07] know there's other cities that are doing that currently to try and address some

[1:14:11] of the issues that they find. >> Maybe we need a charter change,

[1:14:16] something to look into. You know what I mean?

[1:14:19] » But I I can understand where you're coming from completely. sec. I mean, it

[1:14:23] it's almost worth evaluating before doing that, having a second full

[1:14:29] meeting. Some cities do two meetings a month. Um, it would condense down the

[1:14:34] information that you need to consume, but I'm just saying if you're going to

[1:14:37] evaluate having a premeating to be able to con to digest all the information, it

[1:14:42] might just be worth it to have that middle meeting that some cities do have.

[1:14:46] Um, but again, I'm not I'm not suggesting that either. Um it's it's the

[1:14:51] same amount of it's the same amount of workload, but I'm just saying, you know,

[1:14:54] it if it's hard because yes, it's a lot of information to digest, but you know,

[1:14:59] we're available if anybody needs any type of additional information or wants

[1:15:03] to talk something out um to to be there to help. Let me just

[1:15:16] [laughter] >> if you specifically want a specific time

[1:15:20] that you want to meet like uh Jay and one other person usually comes in at

[1:15:25] Wednesday at 8 o'clock. We can always schedule a time if you if you prefer to

[1:15:30] have a schedule >> and then

[1:15:32] » and I'm usually there the Friday before that. So if you ever want to join me,

[1:15:35] feel free. But also, anytime any of the councilmen want to call and discuss

[1:15:41] something with me, my phone is I if I don't answer, I'm subbing, but I will

[1:15:46] call you back. >> What is that phone number? [laughter]

[1:15:52] » I don't mine out of a loudspeaker football game, so I don't mind.

[1:15:58] » But, uh, that's a good idea. I mean, if you want

[1:16:02] to come to the What's the date? The 5th would be the 4th. Third be the 30th.

[1:16:10] » Am I looking at that right? >> Before the meeting.

[1:16:13] » Yeah. If you want to come to the 30th, you

[1:16:18] can. >> I already meet with Andy. That wasn't

[1:16:21] the point. Was what I, like I said, Andy and uh Win and Bobby have always been

[1:16:27] more than nice enough to meet at that time. It wasn't the point of not being

[1:16:31] able to meet with them or being able to call one of you at a time. It was the

[1:16:35] point about bringing everybody together to discuss it.

[1:16:45] » [laughter]

[1:16:51] » Well, and and I get that. And everybody's we do this for free and

[1:16:56] everybody's got life and family and other obligations. So, it's just hard to

[1:17:03] get the train on the same all the train on the same tracks at the same time.

[1:17:12] Wait, what did you start out with?

[1:17:16] » You told her she was right. So now here we go.

[1:17:19] » Everything Councilwoman Phillips says is always correct.

[1:17:24] » You all on record. >> Yes. particularly having a rotating um

[1:17:29] couple of council members meeting together with city staff to go over

[1:17:34] items, answer questions, and like you said, you guys can have individual phone

[1:17:38] calls between one another so long as you're not using that to usurp the open

[1:17:42] meetings act. And also, just like you treat um budget time, you'll have we

[1:17:47] have pre meetings. Until then, I think that's a great idea, especially if we're

[1:17:52] looking at bonding or anything that's going to go to a vote of the people. I

[1:17:55] think you can do it case by case.

[1:18:04] » Do I have an or is there no action taken?

[1:18:09] » So no action taken. Is that correct council?

[1:18:15] I want to recess this meeting. We're going to go open the Purcell public

[1:18:20] works meeting. Call to order. We have a quorum. Can I

[1:18:24] get a roll call, please? >> Here

[1:18:32] » item number three, approval of the consent agenda.

[1:18:40] I'll make a motion to approve agenda item three is written.

[1:18:44] » I'll second. >> We have a motion to second. Can I get a

[1:18:47] vote? >> Yes.

[1:18:49] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:18:52] » Yes. Motion passes. Item number five, discussion and possible action to

[1:18:56] approve reimbursement of electric utility rebate to Maze Properties LLC in

[1:19:01] the sum of $9,76356

[1:19:06] for the following. A lot 2, block one, Cliff's fifth edition, $4,881.78

[1:19:13] and B, lot four, block one, Cliff's fifth edition, $4,881.78.

[1:19:23] So these are reimbursements that um they receive when establishing utilities when

[1:19:29] they're turning on utilities. The only problem with these are that they are

[1:19:34] severely past due. The time period in which they had to claim these has passed

[1:19:39] by about seven years. Uh 2019 was when they were due to be turned on. Um,

[1:19:47] from my understanding, they were told to still present them and council can

[1:19:51] approve or deny them as they come. Um, with that being said, I think it sets a

[1:19:59] bad precedent going forward with current developments that we have going on. I

[1:20:04] mean, take our neighbors up north. You know, they have more neighborhoods being

[1:20:09] developed than you can actually count. Um, and so it just sets that precedent

[1:20:13] that even though we established these timelines and these deadlines, they're

[1:20:17] not real. And so it's just something that we need to think about. It doesn't

[1:20:21] matter to me whose name is on the the voucher. It's nothing to do with that.

[1:20:25] It's just strictly the timeline and the date that we're we're talking about. It

[1:20:29] was it was written on their vouchers their specific date to be done by and

[1:20:34] we're now, you know, seven years past that. So

[1:20:37] » did was there an explanation? How did this even come up? who read shouldn't

[1:20:41] say red flagged it, who brought it to our attention, that type of thing.

[1:20:43] » So, it's it's not necessarily of like um how it came up. We've known about this.

[1:20:49] Um there's about six more of these outstanding that are old. Um this was

[1:20:54] they're just brought to us as they come. This is the first time they've come

[1:20:57] since I've been here that I'm aware of um to be able to have this conversation

[1:21:01] with you guys, but prior it's they've they've been um accepted. Has a

[1:21:05] conversation been had with this specific company letting them know that hey these

[1:21:10] vouchers are expired? >> Um I have not personally spoken with

[1:21:15] them but I know they're aware that the vouchers are expired.

[1:21:18] » It looks like the last time it was >> it looks like the last time it was

[1:21:23] discussed and this is information that um the city clerk and I were talking

[1:21:27] about in an open meeting where I guess 2020 or 2021 that was the last time that

[1:21:33] they were presented.

[1:21:36] Okay. So it was discussed at that time

[1:21:39] whenever they were, you know, a couple one or two years expired

[1:21:43] and we were trying to review minutes to see exactly how that conversation

[1:21:50] transpired. But it sounds like at least as to the as to the ones that were being

[1:21:55] presented at that time, the council determined that it was in the best

[1:22:00] interest of the city, I suppose, to allow them to go through.

[1:22:10] But those were two years expired. >> Yeah. Three years expired at the latest.

[1:22:15] And we're also talking about unbudgeted funds. These are funds that are not

[1:22:19] budgeted for. Um we don't have just a bucket for these types of things because

[1:22:25] the vouchers are issued. We know how many of the vouchers are issued and the

[1:22:28] amounts that the vouchers are for. Um and so it it does negatively impact us.

[1:22:35] Um on a budget aspect as well because this was something that happened in

[1:22:39] 2019.

[1:22:44] » Yes. >> There's no reason for us to continue to

[1:22:46] budget that money. >> So when in normal cases the money would

[1:22:51] be budgeted up to 2019 and then at that point the money would be put into other

[1:22:56] things because it's expired. The other concern I would have is are we saying

[1:23:01] that there's at least six others or is there even potentially more that are

[1:23:05] expired um that we're talking about? >> Okay. So, how many are we talking about

[1:23:10] that haven't been claimed? There's six additional.

[1:23:15] » Yeah, because I I think when I talked to you, I wanted to say we came up with

[1:23:19] between 20 and 25 um when I was looking at just numbers

[1:23:23] because I think that's also important to note that if we're going to take into

[1:23:26] account that we're going to approve these and you also have to take into

[1:23:30] account if there's let's say there's 10 more that that amount of money would

[1:23:34] need to be approved for those people too. And with it being seven years past,

[1:23:38] I do think that that's a that's a long time. It's not a couple days. It's not a

[1:23:42] year. That's a long time. >> This Go ahead. Now I'm the one

[1:23:46] interrupting. Sorry. [laughter] >> Didn't we just have this discussion last

[1:23:51] month being reimbured?

[1:23:56] » Williams edition. >> No, it was a similar conversation, but

[1:23:59] it wasn't the same type same conversation. There was no agreement

[1:24:02] prior. This was an agreement that we had with them. They didn't. So neither side

[1:24:09] fulfilled like neither side didn't meet their their obligations of the

[1:24:13] agreement. It was just the time deadline that is now. So that's that's my problem

[1:24:19] with it is that you're bringing something think about like taking an

[1:24:22] expired check to the bank. You bring a seven-year-old check. It just doesn't

[1:24:25] work >> right. And this might be rhetorical, but

[1:24:29] » if they know that they're expired, why are they submitting them when they're

[1:24:34] expired? >> Um, to be quite frank, because they've

[1:24:38] gotten they've gotten paid on them before.

[1:24:41] So like, you know, why would you not try?

[1:24:43] » Is this money that the city owes them though? Like did was this

[1:24:47] » contractually? No. >> Yeah. I think the way the code is

[1:24:50] written, they become null and void. So they be kind of become uninforceable by

[1:24:54] the developer. There is a subsection in the part of the code that gives the

[1:24:59] council authority to deviate or modify. So I'm just trying to make my sure my

[1:25:05] arms around it. There's been no discussion

[1:25:08] on their part right to hey oh we just we found out that we were seven years past

[1:25:15] due. I mean what how did this all of a sudden come up? I guess and maybe you

[1:25:17] already said that >> council and past city manager

[1:25:21] » had a sorry past council past city manager had

[1:25:26] discussions with um Mr. Mays and they agreed to let him present them to

[1:25:32] council and do it on a case- by case basis.

[1:25:36] » Is your question why it's been brought up tonight?

[1:25:40] I'm just asking why is it why is it just now coming up if it's so many years

[1:25:46] » because two more homes have been built and that's what I'm trying to figure out

[1:25:49] what what all of a sudden brought this up to to to do this vouchers they're

[1:25:54] trying to turn >> two vouchers that they're trying to get

[1:25:56] reimbured for that they finally have homes on that are hooked up to

[1:25:59] electricity >> at the same time then I get that point

[1:26:01] if if it's if those lots have been sitting vacant for all these years and

[1:26:06] not able to be sold Now they're saying they're sold and

[1:26:12] » I don't think that's probably the case. Nobody's going to let their let

[1:26:18] that long. >> No, the house was not there. So it's a

[1:26:20] vacant lot. >> It's a new build. They were not

[1:26:22] » say it has to be new build, >> right? Well, that's what I'm saying. So

[1:26:26] in essence, I mean, there was no need at that point if I'm understanding

[1:26:30] correctly to turn in a voucher because there was nothing done there. would not

[1:26:34] we would not do a re. >> So the whole point the the whole point

[1:26:38] of it being written in the code the way that it is is to both in to incentivize

[1:26:42] development but it's also to incentivize expedited development. We don't want

[1:26:46] someone who's going to come in and you know frankly do kind of like this and

[1:26:51] develop over a you know 20 year timeline.

[1:26:55] It's supposed to be reimbursement for the infrastructure that's put in place

[1:26:59] um for those homes. And that's why once the home is connected to our utility

[1:27:02] system that their reimbursements are processed. Um with that being said,

[1:27:07] these two that we are talking about right now, their new homes where this

[1:27:12] the utility services are just now being turned on and this is something this

[1:27:16] infrastructure that we're now paying for has been in the ground to prior to 2019.

[1:27:25] I think >> they have had an opportunity at all

[1:27:28] before they expired to maybe communicate with the city that hey, we need a new

[1:27:33] » um contract made or was that just >> they should have done an extension if

[1:27:38] they were going to do it >> and they failed to do that. Okay, got

[1:27:41] it. >> I agree with Win. I think we're setting

[1:27:43] a dangerous precedent. >> So,

[1:28:01] I motion that we do not approve agenda item number five.

[1:28:04] » I second. >> We have a motion and a second. Can I get

[1:28:07] a vote?

[1:28:20] » Okay. I motion to deny the uh reimbursements on agenda item number

[1:28:25] five. >> Second.

[1:28:27] » We have a amended motion. Can we get a vote?

[1:28:32] » Yes. >> Phillips.

[1:28:33] » Yes. >> Can I abstain?

[1:28:35] » Yes. It counts as a no in Oklahoma. >> Okay. Just be aware.

[1:28:41] » I uh vote yes to deny. Motion fails. Correct.

[1:28:49] » Three. 3 to one. >> Motion passes.

[1:28:53] » Motion passes. Do not pay. Okay. I This doesn't happen very often, so

[1:28:59] Okay. So, I can move on. Correct. [sighs]

[1:29:03] Agenda item number six, discussion and possible action to approve services and

[1:29:07] supplies from Hoffman Water Wells LLC for well number four not to exceed

[1:29:12] $65,64610

[1:29:16] as follows. A 20,500 for removal and inspection

[1:29:22] testing and $45,14610

[1:29:27] for new equipment install. I'm prepared for this one. I swear it's the same same

[1:29:33] thing happened last time with the other weld. We're going to do the same thing

[1:29:35] with this one. Um it's up to that point, but it probably won't cost that much

[1:29:39] because we're going to pull and see and I guarantee it's same issue we had last

[1:29:42] time. So they'll probably have to replace the pump. I don't know yet, but

[1:29:45] that's probably what's going to happen. and no more tape. That's been said

[1:29:48] several times to these people. So that's what's going on with the same thing.

[1:29:51] Same well, same situation, same everything.

[1:29:53] » So only got one more left. One more well

[1:29:58] left to actually bring up and that's the last one. Everything else is good.

[1:30:02] » Okay. >> So

[1:30:04] » So are we in budget when it comes to this? Is it all covered? We have

[1:30:11] [laughter] >> So,

[1:30:14] » as Bobby kind of hinted at earlier, um some additional contracts have come to

[1:30:18] light for the I um what's the interstate? Sorry.

[1:30:24] » I35. I almost said I40. That's not the case. Um the I35

[1:30:28] um engineering cost. And so I relied on some information that was provided to me

[1:30:33] for budgeting for that this year. um that it just doesn't doesn't seem to be

[1:30:39] as accurate as I thought. And so we are looking at um presenting next meeting

[1:30:44] some restructuring of our capital improvement

[1:30:47] projects. Um with that being said, this is covered by funds that are not

[1:30:54] even something that we could touch other than water projects though. So, our bond

[1:30:58] that we have outstanding $740,000ish, um we can only use it for water projects

[1:31:05] and so this would therefore fall underneath that to be utilized. So, it's

[1:31:08] it's not the same funds.

[1:31:15] » A motion that we pass agenda item number six.

[1:31:17] » A second. >> We have a motion, a second. Can I get a

[1:31:20] vote? >> Yes.

[1:31:22] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:31:24] » Yes. Motion passes. >> Awesome. Thank you. How did he get out

[1:31:27] of his public works report?

[1:31:32] [snorts and laughter]

[1:31:34] » We can't do it. It's not on there. But I just caught that.

[1:31:38] » Oh, you know what? You didn't buy what? I'm not on there. [laughter]

[1:31:45] » You can comment. Okay. >> Let me do my letter now. later.

[1:31:49] [laughter] Item number seven, uh, discussion and

[1:31:53] possible action to approve joint resolution number 26-C13-26-P5,

[1:31:59] a joint resolution of the city of Purcell and the Purcell Public Works

[1:32:02] Authority authorizing the city manager to approve and execute expenditures for

[1:32:06] the OTAA water tower relocation project in an amount not to exceed 12,465

[1:32:12] thou 12,465,300,

[1:32:16] which is the same thing we did on the city council side.

[1:32:20] Yes. Exact same thing as before. We're just

[1:32:22] » make a motion to approve agenda item seven as written.

[1:32:25] » I second. >> We have a motion to second. Can I get a

[1:32:27] vote? >> Yes.

[1:32:29] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:32:30] » Yes. Motion passes. Number eight. Discussion and possible action to

[1:32:34] approve signing the agreement with Glenn Sullivan and Associates to provide

[1:32:37] surveying, geotechnical study, engineering, and inspection for the OTAA

[1:32:42] I35 water tower project in the sum of 768,000.

[1:32:47] 100,000 for topographic survey and utility line located services. 668,000

[1:32:54] for engineering and design. >> Start real quick.

[1:32:57] » Do we need to edit that? >> Chris,

[1:33:00] » would this one not be redundant? Would the other one

[1:33:03] » with with Yeah, with seven. Would that not make

[1:33:09] this eight and nine redundant? Because Bobby has the

[1:33:17] Go ahead. [laughter]

[1:33:21] » Uh this is for the as it says all the surveying preparing the legal

[1:33:27] descriptions and the design of up to about six miles of water line. Uh also a

[1:33:35] new site uh and site plan for the new water tower.

[1:33:40] um everything that goes with it coordinating with right-of-way

[1:33:44] acquisition. It does not include the actual right-of-way acquisition. That's

[1:33:49] under item nine. Uh there was a cost estimate at the very end of the

[1:33:54] agreement that has been uh vetted and approved by OTAA.

[1:34:00] Uh so they are on board with all of this. We will be subbing out uh

[1:34:05] surveying to uh Pinnacle who's done most of our surveying uh within PCEL projects

[1:34:13] in the past. So you know is there any questions? We're this thing is this

[1:34:18] thing is is a hot timeline. We're going to have five, six people full-time on it

[1:34:24] for a long time to get this completed. And it's our goal to go to DEEQ

[1:34:32] as soon as possible. Just this may not be the right place to

[1:34:36] ask the question, but there's numerous people asking, is this

[1:34:42] going to affect water pressure on this side of town if we're moving this tank

[1:34:46] somewhere else further? >> No.

[1:34:48] » So, and that was And can you explain that? So anybody listening can maybe

[1:34:52] understand the concept because I every everybody I talked to are talking uh the

[1:34:58] water tower we're moving supplies pressure to the north part of town

[1:35:03] basically the hospital and further north and then all the way out past the ODOT

[1:35:08] building uh out through there. We're moving the tower but we're going to keep

[1:35:14] it at the same elevation. That's why we have to move it a ways. We do not have a

[1:35:18] site picked yet. Um, we will be picking a site, but it has to be comparable

[1:35:23] elevation. That's what drives your pressure. How tall that tower is and

[1:35:28] where the water is in that tower. It will not affect pressure.

[1:35:32] » So, regardless of it's moved several miles away, the pressure is not going to

[1:35:37] be affected. pressure is not going to because with this if it's moved too far

[1:35:42] and there could be fire flows that affect some pressure, we will be

[1:35:46] upgrading the pump station on Grant Street to offset that if that occurs.

[1:35:54] Again, until we get a final site, we won't know the hydraulics, which is part

[1:35:59] of this project. Get the hydraulics, get it all submitted to DEEQ for their

[1:36:04] approval.

[1:36:07] » Thanks. I have a question for our attorney. Can you look at the 668,000

[1:36:12] on the agenda? Is that going to be a problem since there's one zero missing?

[1:36:22] » Do we need to do >> clarify it on the record? [snorts] It's

[1:36:26] » I want to clarify. >> It's not even really a number because of

[1:36:28] where the commas are. I just want to clarify for the minutes

[1:36:33] that the 600 it should be $668,000. There should be an extra zero on there

[1:36:39] on agenda item number eight. >> I don't

[1:36:43] » I should have caught that. I'm sorry. >> Please don't write the check that way.

[1:36:49] » Yeah. And these funds are coming directly from the 12 million. Um these

[1:36:53] are again are we we're receiving we're expected to receive the funds within 45

[1:36:57] days of signing of the contract and then as soon as we receive the funds we'll be

[1:37:00] able to issue out these payments. So, we don't know for sure yet where that water

[1:37:06] tower is going to be moved because my assumption or what I thought

[1:37:11] » this is about his contract. >> Okay. Yeah.

[1:37:23] » It's not It wasn't the contractors where it's going to be located.

[1:37:29] We'll get to that.

[1:37:34] » So, we need a motion. I'll make a motion to accept agenda item eight is written.

[1:37:37] » I'll second. >> We have a motion, a second. Can I get a

[1:37:40] vote, please? >> Yes.

[1:37:42] » Phillips. >> Yes.

[1:37:43] » Yes. >> Yes. Motion passes. Item number nine,

[1:37:46] discussion of possible action to hire Pinnacle Consulting Management Group,

[1:37:50] Inc. for right-of-way and easement acquisition associated with the

[1:37:53] relocating the I35 water storage facility associated with the new OTAA

[1:37:59] interchange. This is uh an approved vendor as far as

[1:38:04] OTAA is concerned. We are utilizing their survey division to do the survey

[1:38:11] for the project. So, it really only made sense to allow their right-of-way

[1:38:16] acquisition, who's right across the hall, to do the right-of-way

[1:38:20] acquisition. It's going to speed up the process, not having a third company

[1:38:24] involved in the thing. So, I I ran it by OTAA. Are you okay with it? OTAA was

[1:38:30] fine with us with us uh recommending Pinnacle.

[1:38:34] » And the reason that it's open-ended is because the specifics, how many need to

[1:38:39] be acquired and or there's different different ways that each different

[1:38:45] acquisition has to be priced and calculated. We won't know those numbers

[1:38:48] until more definitive like timeline of where and um

[1:38:53] just how it's going to be done. >> We get a final alignment. We'll get a

[1:38:56] final parcel count and then we can bring back to you a formal contract with with

[1:39:02] the amount that will be charged, >> which we won't have to do because Bobby

[1:39:04] can just approve it. But um yes, so we'll be able to just Bobby will just be

[1:39:07] able to move move through those as they come in to expedite that process.

[1:39:15] I move that we approve agend item agenda item number nine.

[1:39:21] » We have a motion, a second. Can I get a vote?

[1:39:23] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:39:26] » Yes. Motion passes. I want to recess this meeting. Call the order the PCEL

[1:39:32] economic development authority. We have a quorum. Can I get a roll call?

[1:39:36] » Here.

[1:39:41] Item number three, approval of the consent agenda.

[1:39:45] » I'll make a motion to approve. Agenda item three is written.

[1:39:47] » Second. >> We have a motion, a second. Can I get a

[1:39:49] vote? >> Yes.

[1:39:51] » Phillips. >> Yes.

[1:39:53] » Yes. >> Yes. Motion passes. I want to adjourn

[1:39:56] this meeting and then I want to call a joint session between the Purcell City

[1:40:01] Council regular meeting and the Purcell public works

[1:40:05] meeting. And if I can get my fingers to work.

[1:40:09] Item number 14, executive session discussion and consideration to enter

[1:40:14] executive session to be held in accordance with 25os 307 subsection B1

[1:40:19] and 3. A discussing the employment, hiring, appointment, promotion,

[1:40:23] demotion, disciplining or resignation of any individual salaried public officer

[1:40:27] or employee discuss B discussing the sale, purchase, lease, acquisition or

[1:40:33] appraisal of real property by the public body.

[1:40:37] I'll make a motion to go into executive session with city council, our attorney,

[1:40:41] city manager, city treasurer Marcos Castillo, and Kenny Sullivan.

[1:40:51] » I second it. >> Motion, a second.

[1:40:54] » I got a vote. >> Yes.

[1:40:56] » Yes. >> Yes. Motion passes. We are now in

[1:40:59] executive session at 7:32.

[1:41:23] I just want to make sure

[2:33:00] We need a motion to come out. >> I'll make a motion to come out of

[2:33:04] executive session. >> Second.

[2:33:07] » Have a motion. >> Second. Can I get a vote?

[2:33:09] » Yes. >> Yes.

[2:33:11] » Yes. Yes. >> No action taken. So, we're going to go

[2:33:16] to item number 16 down there on the end. Council Dennis, you're up.

[2:33:24] » Oh, okay. I do want to thank again all the city workers and stuff. I know

[2:33:28] they've been out diligently working out in the heat and stuff with a lot of

[2:33:32] different things, whether it's from the water department. I've also seen them

[2:33:35] down Green Avenue working on the landscaping and things there. Um, I do

[2:33:39] also want to thank the Purcell Parks and Wreck for their due diligence and the

[2:33:44] stuff that they've been doing, keeping the lawnmowing up out at the lake. The

[2:33:47] lake looks really nice. um the courts out there being redone for the first

[2:33:52] time in several years. And uh I also want to thank Andy and again Wyn and

[2:33:58] Bobby for meeting with me separately to go through the agendas and stuff. And

[2:34:02] again thank all of our city council members as well. Um the city is, you

[2:34:08] know, not one person, it's a group of people all working together and I think

[2:34:12] we do a good job of that. And Chris, I thank you for your due diligence on the

[2:34:16] stuff, especially legally that we're not sure about sometimes. Um, and you're

[2:34:21] always there to help as well. So, thank you guys.

[2:34:27] » I have nothing. Thank you. >> No comment.

[2:34:31] » Chris,

[2:34:41] I think

[2:34:46] But there are some neighborhoods. I was just thinking about this first.

[2:35:29] Sorry. I interrupted.

[2:35:35] » I don't have anything. Maros, it's your time to shine.

[2:35:42] » Only thing I ever comment about already been built.

[2:35:46] » Okay. >> And they're going to move that in a

[2:35:47] couple weeks. So that'll be done. >> You didn't call me. I want to put my

[2:35:50] initials in the >> And under budget.

[2:35:54] » Hey, that's good. >> When?

[2:35:59] » Thank you guys. Look forward to many more.

[2:36:03] » Hopefully a long time. You go. I go. I'm good.

[2:36:10] » My only comment is these. This is I need you to put your chief hat on.

[2:36:17] » Are these electric bikes that the kids are riding around legal?

[2:36:25] » Well, yes and no, depending on

[2:36:30] where they're at. I mean, if they're on a state highway or something like that

[2:36:34] and they >> still can't be blown through stop signs

[2:36:37] and >> Well, that's my concern.

[2:36:40] » I got one the other night because he ran stop sign.

[2:36:46] » Yeah, we've been getting looking at some of the calls. We looks like we've been

[2:36:50] getting complaints on a certain little group of kids doing

[2:36:54] riding those little electric bikes and scooters or whatever. Can the police

[2:37:00] department just put out a public service announcement that they're subject to the

[2:37:05] rules of the road? I don't know that help or not. Just got to educate the

[2:37:08] parents or I don't know. >> I'll talk to some of the officers to see

[2:37:12] who they've contacted and have already talked with. See where we're are with

[2:37:16] that.

[2:37:19] » Anyway, that is >> Yes. Thank you. And

[2:37:24] » ask the chief next month. The new chief. [laughter]

[2:37:30] You will always be chief to me. Uh, without anything else, I

[2:37:36] we're done and I'm out of

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