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September 2nd City council meeting, please stand
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for the Pledge of Allegiance.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag
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of the United States of America
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and to the republic for which it stands,
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one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty
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and justice for all.
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Please remain standing for a moment of silence.
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Thank you.
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Roll call.
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Counselor Clancy. Here. Councillor Rice Here.
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Councilor Marsh? Here. Councilor Bhu. Here.
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Council Grassley. Yeah. Councilor Roberts. Here.
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Mayor Ha Setler here. Thank you.
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Public comment. Let me remind you that the maximum time
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for public comment is three minutes per person reserved
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for general comments or items on the agenda
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that are not a public hearing.
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Do we have any public comment tonight?
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No. Okay.
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Consent Agenda item five A consider minutes
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of August 19th, 2026, regular meeting item five B,
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consider liquor license renewal for Roaring Fort Grill LLC,
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doing business as Brickhouse pizzeria.
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Item five C, consider liquor license renewal for for
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loyal order of Moose Lodge number 1345, doing business
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as loyal order of Moose Lodge number 1345
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item five D consider amendment to chapter 16
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of the rifle municipal code for permitted a DU Zone.
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Districts. Ordinance number 16 series
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of 2026 on second reading item five E consider.
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I'm gonna pull that off, right.
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Which one? We're gonna pull item
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five E off the consent
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agenda. So
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I move to approve consent.
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Agenda items five A through five D
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I'll second.
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So good.
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We have a motion from Councillor Grassley
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and a second from Councillor Roberts
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to approve consent Agenda of items five A
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through five D Councillor Behold.
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I guess I'm confused on why we're not doing five C
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Five.
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It's gonna move to the re. It is gonna move
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to the regular agenda.
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Yes. Councillor Marsh. Yes. Councillor Grassley. Yes.
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Councillor Rice. Yes. Councillor Roberts.
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Yes. Mayor Hostettler.
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Yes. Councillor Clancy. Yes. Thank you.
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First Actions, if any on workshops.
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We had our second budget workshop
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tonight going over governmental funds.
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A lot of good discussion
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and we're just gonna keep moving
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forward on this budget thing.
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And then we also talked about bulk resource, consumer
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conditional use permit requirements.
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Zach's put together some things
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that we're looking at right now and also P
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and Z's looking at and there's more to come on that later.
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And it looks like we have a presentation from the four H.
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Come on up.
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Either one, You can sit down or you can stand up.
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I'll stand. I sent out a kind
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of report the going over what I've done.
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I started here in January,
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so this is a little bit of what I've done.
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It's kind of hard to put all of it on pen and paper,
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but that's kind of the gist of what I've been doing.
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I'm sorry I didn't even introduce myself.
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I'm Jessica Russell. I'm the new four H specialist
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and I just wanted to come here, introduce myself.
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I've been very busy since I've started
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and I feel like I'm starting to catch my breath now,
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especially after fair.
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So I wanted to put a face to my name to you all
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and I wanted to let you know what I've been working on.
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And then also I wanted to get an idea of what,
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if you have anything of what you're looking
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for from four H in the city of Rifle.
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So if you guys have anything that like
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you've been missing from the program that you would like
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to see more of, anything like that, I would love your input
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to make sure that the program
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that we're doing is supporting the community as well. So
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I think this is the first time anyone from the four H has
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ever come here for a long time.
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For a long time. Yeah. So it's nice to see you.
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I was like, I hope that's a good thing.
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Really a good thing. We really
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appreciate the four H program. Yeah. Yes.
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Yeah. It's a program I truly believe in.
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I was a four H member as a youth
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and it's made me the person I am today.
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So I hope to, to put that into our youth
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that we have here as well.
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Yeah, I second those sentiments.
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The four H program is actually a pretty interesting program.
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I, I sit on the extension board
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and we kind of oversee parts.
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Yeah. Get reports. At least it was,
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it's an interesting program.
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I suggest, I suggest people educate themselves on it.
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I did have one thing that I've heard recently from some
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of the businesses in town,
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and that's in regards to
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spending funds at the Livestock Fair
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or at the livestock auctions at during the fair that
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the way it's structured with Loma Livestock, I believe
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being that the person the check is written to is an issue.
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And if, if they could write checks to the nonprofits
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that there might be some more corporate participation
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and purchasing of livestock.
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Those funds are usually restricted by the corporations
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and they have to go to a, to a nonprofit. So Yeah.
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Yeah. It's because our, that auction is ran
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by the Livestock Marketing Committee.
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That is through, they're like an an offshoot
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of the fair board if I'm understanding it all correctly.
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And so that they're not a 5 0 1 C.
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And so some companies are required when they do a donation
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can only donate to a 5 0 1 C or 5 0 3 C
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or whatever the number is.
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And so I think that's something
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that the Livestock Marketing Committee is actually working
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on to turn over into a nonprofit so
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that they can receive those funds from those organizations
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who really wanna support the program and the auction,
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but just can't with the standing that they're in.
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So are, are you talking about the fact
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that our checks this year went to like
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acting client or something?
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'cause we wrote it to like Garfield County
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and then it, oh, I said no, you can't write it
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to Garfield County and then that's it.
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Yeah, it was different. I see what you're for sure.
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Now something was different this year.
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Yeah, it's 'cause I didn't even think about like the
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tax implications of that.
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Yeah, there's that side of it.
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And then there's also this side of how the auction is ran.
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And so the Livestock Marketing Committee is the one
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who puts on the livestock auction.
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I'm just there as a support for that side of it
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and managing like the youth and all of those things.
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And then the Livestock Marketing Committee hired
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Loma Livestock to run the auction,
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but also the backside of it.
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So like collecting the money, making sure
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that the kids get their checks on time.
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I don't have all the historical knowledge that's happened
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before, but from my understanding it took like a long time
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for a lot of our youth to get the money
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that they made at the auction.
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And that's 'cause this committee's only ran by volunteers.
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And so using that livestock era, Loma Livestock allowed for
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that to happen a lot faster as far as my understanding goes.
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Yeah, I think, I think that piece of it was,
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was probably real, but the opportunity
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for some additional funds to be spent was,
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it was also substantial amounts of money.
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Yeah. So yeah.
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Well I can definitely take this feedback
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and let the, the committee know that
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people are thinking about it
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and looking at solutions on how to make some changes.
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Okay, thank you. Might need like
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a go between in the middle.
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I know that's, yeah. Finding that sweet spot right there.
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Anybody else got any four H questions or
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How is participation do you feel like,
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like I know you don't have a lot to measure it by,
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but it's pretty robust program.
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We have a very youthful population here. So
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Yeah, this, this four H year we've had 250 youth
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enrolled and over a hundred volunteers.
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That's good. So in my eyes, I think
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that's really like a really good number.
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But I would love to get more involvement from our,
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what we call our general project side.
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So not so much our livestock side,
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but getting these kids who don't have the space
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to raise animals, but still helping them develop life skills
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and doing just fun projects.
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Like one thing that we were able
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to grow a little bit this year was ceramics.
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We have a great volunteer out in Parachute
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that has a ceramic studio
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and they've invited our youth over there.
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And so supporting more programs like that so the youth
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who can't connect
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to the livestock world still find a
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belonging within our program.
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Great.
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You said 250 youth? Yes. In this year? Yes.
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Even though you've only been here a short time,
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do you have a sense of how that number compares
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to last year or the year before?
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I think we dropped a little bit
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and I think this has to do with a lot
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of our livestock side of it.
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The prices for say beef
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and purchasing those larger animals went up substantially.
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So a lot of our kids weren't able to continue with projects.
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We also had a large group this year
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before me that graduated high school.
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And so we didn't get that return from our littles in
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with our big kids moving out.
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So I think that has a little bit to, I don't know
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what the number was prior to me,
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but I think it did drop a little bit.
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But I hope that we can grow more this next year.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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We appreciate you coming in. You're welcome.
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Yeah. Do you guys have any other comments
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or suggestions like please reach out.
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I want to be a good support for our community
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and make these youth and myself
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and our volunteers feel part of the community.
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So if you have any suggestions on how we can do things like
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that, I would be happy to take them. Great,
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Thank you. Can we get thank you
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Updates on the events and and stuff.
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Could we, could we put some of that
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through our communication channels?
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Yeah, definitely. We could post it on our flyers
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and do social media partnerships.
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So I have your email.
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Yeah, we can reach out if that would help. Yeah,
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That would be great. Considered
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Downtown, could You?
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I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah,
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thank you for your time. Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank You. Thank you.
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All right. Item seven B presentation by city
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of Glenwood Springs about the South Bridge.
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Please introduce yourselves
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for those of us that don't know you.
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Good evening mayor and council. Thanks for having us.
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Good to be here. My name is Steve Boyd.
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I'm the city manager in Glenwood Springs.
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I've got our city engineer, Ryan Gordon
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and our finance directory Vet Gustad with us.
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So we're just kind of doing the circuit up
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and down the valley to give everybody a very lightning quick
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update on how the Southbridge project is going
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and give you a chance to answer
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or ask any questions that you'd like.
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So we've been doing this for a long time.
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We're probably 20 years or
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so into it in the last couple years.
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We've made a lot of changes to the design of the project
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to try to simplify it and lower the cost.
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We've got a lot of partners that are in it
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with us as we go along.
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But I thought I would just turn it over to our city engineer
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and have him explain quickly what changes we've made and,
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and take any questions that you guys have.
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And then if at some point you'd like to write a letter
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of support, you're very welcome to.
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I can work with Patrick on that.
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We're not here to ask for money. At least tonight.
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We might be back. I don't know. I'll give it to Ryan.
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Yeah. Hi. Good evening counsel again.
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Ryan Gordon, the city engineer.
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So as, as Steve alluded to
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and said, lots of changes in the last couple years.
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So three years ago when I was hired,
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we put a stop on Southbridge, we paused it
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and really took a deep dive.
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We made some, some pretty significant changes.
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Fir first off, before I go into that,
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let me explain the reason for Southbridge
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and why we even started this altogether.
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So back in 2002,
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the Coal Sea fire jammed up traffic in Glenwood
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and really caused a, a major issue.
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So the idea of Southbridge is primarily a second egress
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across the Roaring Fork River,
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primarily access the southern
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neighborhoods in Glenwood Springs.
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And then the four mile corridor above Glenwood,
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approximately about four
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to 5,000 people live in that, that zone.
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So that was really the primary reason.
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There's other, other goals of the project.
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We're gonna be fully rebuilding almost a complete one mile
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of Highway D two if this project goes forward.
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So in, in i I, I was born
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and raised in Glenwood, so I know it
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as the Buffalo Valley intersection County Road 1 54 is
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the, the official name.
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And, and Highway 82 pretty dangerous roadway in section.
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In fact, yesterday there was a,
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a four car pile up in that same area.
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So the, the project, again, fire evacuation, major,
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major safety improvements along, along the interstate
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or the highway system in that, in that corridor also,
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what it's gonna do is actually, it's gonna continue a lot
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of pedestrian and biking facilities,
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which are in the South Glenwood region across this new
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bridge and connect to the Rio Grande Trail.
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And then it's also gonna, we feel, have some,
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some improvements to traffic circulation in,
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in general move forward.
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Okay, so this was the design in 2023?
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The 2000, yeah, yeah, 2023.
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And, and what I've highlighted on here are three major
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components that we really took a deep dive.
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So going from left to right,
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initially the project actually had a tunnel under our
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existing municipal runway.
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We found out that was actually gonna be the first ever
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tunnel under a runway that municipality built.
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And we didn't want to be the Guinea pigs
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for number one second, the bridge structure
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that crosses the Roaring Fork River, initially designed as
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a bridge, very similar to
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what you see in the Goman Springs Canyon,
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which is the segmented concrete sections.
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Fairly complicated to construct.
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Pretty unique and difficult
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as a long-term maintenance challenge.
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Thirdly, on the top of the top of the screen, you'll see
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a section along highway E two.
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Well, we had initially for a, a set of houses,
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2, 2, 600 foot long by two six foot, six foot,
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600 foot long by 20 foot high retaining walls
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to access those neighborhoods.
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So what we end up doing next, next, next screen is,
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is we kind of re revision a little bit of the project.
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Again, not the philosophy of it.
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What we end up doing is re remove that tunnel.
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So what we did is we shifted the road to the south
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and below the runway.
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This would allow us to eliminate that tunnel
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and also have a safe way to get around
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around the runway itself.
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We changed the bridge style to a boring steel girder bridge
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that you see everywhere.
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Much, much easier to construct, much easier to maintain,
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significantly cheaper.
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Those, those retaining walls I mentioned,
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we got rid of them entirely.
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And what we ended up doing is preserving at
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that intersection, the County Road 1 54.
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Right now, there's a four-way intersection.
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We preserved that. The previous one actually had the
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elimination of the, the,
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the turning movements on would be the, the east side,
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which is why those walls was there.
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So we really got rid of that.
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Additionally, what we also did when we changed
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that bridge style, we were able
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to reduce it down in elevation,
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which made the grades on the east side of the river,
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which accesses the Jackson Ranch
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and the Holy Cross Energy campus, much,
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much more simpler from a 10% grade to basically at grade 1%.
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So we really made a lot of significant changes.
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So what this really did beyond those, those those elements,
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it reduced the project from probably 20 to 30 million,
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probably more on the 30 million side
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and reduced construction time, about 18 months.
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We actually hired a consultant
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to kind of help us do all this.
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You know, I'm I, I'm, I'm fairly smart,
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but not smart enough in all this.
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So we've got some experts to kind of help us out with costs
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and construction schedule.
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So some pretty meaningful changes. Go ahead.
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So here's what it looks like right now.
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Again, doesn't look a whole lot different than before,
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but the major point you can see is the, the bottom part
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of the roadway that goes, you know, to the south
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of the runway that really has accomplished a couple things
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beyond just construction schedule and cost.
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What this is allowing us
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to do is actually keep speeds moderate.
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When there was a, when there was a tunnel,
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the tunnel actually came underneath the runway
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and had a curve that was designed for about a 45 mile,
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45 mile an hour highway speed, which again,
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you can probably get up to 65 miles an hour
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if you really drop the hammer.
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What this has allowed us to do is actually put in a lot
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of more controls on, on speed and, and how people drive.
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You know, we cannot control where people drive,
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but we cer certainly want to control how they are driving.
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So this actually is a 25 mile an hour designed corner.
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At that lower left hand corner, we're gonna have a bunch
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of other safety features of speed table, some roundabouts
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and some other things to control control speed.
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You can see on the right hand side the,
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the significant amount of, of
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redesign on the highway D two corridor.
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And just to kind of point out again, at that county road,
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1 54 across the, across the highway from that
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is the Red Mountain Commercial District.
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All that area right now has sort of a free access
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to the, to the highway D two.
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It's about a 300 foot long open area.
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What we've done is we consolidated all of those businesses
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and there's a few residents
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and collected them to a new signaled intersection
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where the new Southbridge road would, would come up.
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Again, really creating a much more safer condition
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for those businesses and then for the traveling public.
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So the other thing that I mentioned was traffic.
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And I, I, I don't expect you guys to digest all this,
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but what this is really showing
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and what we've been able to determine is
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by building this bridge,
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we are essentially gonna be pulling off approximately 3000
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cars per day,
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or about 10% of the current traffic on Highway D two
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that currently would go, if you're going from let's say,
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Carbondale to Glenwood
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as you're approaching the current traffic pattern, right?
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As you approach the, the Walmart area, the McDonald's area,
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a lot of the residents that live in South Glenwood are four
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mile that currently commute,
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let's say up Valley when they're coming down valley.
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They have to come down through that, through past McDonald's
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and then take a left on 27th Street
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and basically backtrack a couple miles to get up four mile.
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When we build South Bridge, again,
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this is gonna be well south, about two miles south of
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that of McDonald's.
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Those, those approximately 3000 vehicles per day will no
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longer have to go to 27th Street.
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Right? They will be able to take Southbridge
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to get to get home.
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We feel that's gonna be a meaningful amount
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of, of reduction.
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And again, our goal is this is, is in, in no way intended
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to be a bypass, right?
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Our, our goal actually, as I mentioned,
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the 25 mile an hour speed limits, speed tables, et cetera,
[20:01]
is to kind of make it not much fun to have
[20:03]
to drive through Southbridge.
[20:05]
But if you're going home, great,
[20:06]
but if it's your commute not so great, and we think the idea
[20:10]
and, and we've done a couple studies, is
[20:12]
that we're leaving enough traffic off of Highway 82 that
[20:14]
to stay in Highway 82, where you can go 55 miles an hour
[20:19]
into Glenwood Springs, obviously if to slow down,
[20:22]
that would be the preferred
[20:23]
and quicker route for the commuters.
[20:24]
So again, it really accomplishes a ton of things.
[20:27]
And, and I just wanna highlight, you know,
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the safety improvements on Highway 82 are really paramount.
[20:31]
Over the last 15 years there's been at least two fatalities
[20:35]
and somewhere and close to the 60
[20:37]
to 70 major serious actions
[20:39]
accidents in this stretch of the road.
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And I think, oh, I go most important part I was about
[20:45]
to be done schedule and costs.
[20:48]
So the schedule, there's a,
[20:49]
there's a few little changes here as we're sort
[20:51]
of progressing through, but generally speaking,
[20:53]
this project is funded from a $50 million grant
[20:56]
that we received from FHWA.
[20:59]
We're in the process now of oblating that grant
[21:02]
that's in final review at a couple different parties
[21:04]
up at FHWA.
[21:05]
So we're looking to have that grant money secured
[21:08]
for the project here pretty quick.
[21:10]
This says anticipated bid date October
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of 26, which is right around the corner.
[21:15]
It's more gonna be like January one of 27.
[21:19]
We are working through a few, a few last things.
[21:22]
You know, we're working with the county on land use permits
[21:25]
and some other other issues there.
[21:27]
And then we're also working to finalize
[21:29]
and secure right of way,
[21:30]
we wanna have both those items taken care
[21:32]
of prior to bidding the project.
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So we think that's probably gonna be around the first
[21:36]
of the year, but it's kind of challenging to,
[21:40]
to estimate when all that stuff is gonna get worked out.
[21:43]
So construction date would fall on the heels.
[21:45]
Again, if we sort of say construction date is,
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is this says one, one that would be bid date.
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So if you give a couple months
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for getting a contractor on board
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and the contract signed, so if we're talking the end
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of first quarter 27,
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we feel the construction is probably close
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to about a two year or,
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or two construction cycle of a project.
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Given that we have quite a bit of work to do.
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Certainly right now we're estimating
[22:08]
that the total project cost is like $77.5 million right now.
[22:13]
What we have with, assuming that we have
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that federal big federal grant,
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we have about 72 point half million dollars
[22:19]
with $5 million remaining.
[22:21]
And, and some of the funding sources raft is providing
[22:24]
money, c d's providing money.
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This federal grant along
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with some other federal earmarks is providing money.
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Then certainly city of Glenoma Springs is bringing up
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and providing local match and, and,
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and kind of closing that gap.
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So I think that's my last slide.
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So listen, open up for questions if you have anything,
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I'm happy to answer anything.
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So I'm, I'm just go, my mind just goes back
[22:48]
to when we did, when we did,
[22:49]
when you guys built the new bridge across,
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what is the traffic impact
[22:53]
of those two years gonna be on highway 82?
[22:56]
Yeah, that's a, that's a great question.
[22:58]
So we've thought this through
[23:00]
and there's plenty of space, I say plenty of space,
[23:02]
but there's space enough that you,
[23:04]
we can do some significant lane shifts.
[23:07]
So really the Oh, thank you.
[23:09]
That's a great to bring that back.
[23:10]
So, so the improvements in highway D two are adding
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acceleration and deceleration lanes,
[23:15]
some additional turn lanes and,
[23:17]
and widening some of the areas.
[23:18]
Right now there's, there's significant space.
[23:21]
We think we can do a lane shift
[23:23]
and move traffic over while we'll do work on east side,
[23:26]
south side, whatever weather side you want to call it,
[23:29]
and then kind of shift lanes.
[23:30]
So there would certainly be impacts to say the least.
[23:32]
But we think given, you know, again,
[23:34]
where this intersection is in proximity
[23:36]
to McDonald's is relatively close-ish, and I bring that up
[23:39]
because we probably will have, you know, speed limits
[23:42]
through the construction zone at 45 miles an hour, hour.
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So hopefully it's not a significant impact as opposed
[23:47]
to midsection between Glenwood and Carbondale.
[23:50]
There will be some impacts.
[23:52]
The good news about this project is a lot
[23:54]
of the heavy lifting, so to speak, is off the system, right?
[23:58]
The bridge doesn't have traffic going to it.
[24:00]
The roadways on the, on the west side
[24:02]
of the airport don't have a significant amount of traffic.
[24:04]
So we're hoping that it's gonna be minimum amount of impact,
[24:07]
but there, like any, any construction project,
[24:09]
unfortunately, there's going
[24:10]
to be times when it's pretty significant,
[24:13]
but we are still gonna be following all the CDOT protocols
[24:15]
with regards to constructions on a highway system.
[24:18]
So that means, you know, the major work between 9:00 AM
[24:22]
and 3:00 PM hopefully quasi outside of that commuting time.
[24:26]
Right? I mean, we know that's sort
[24:27]
of inching in on those timeframes,
[24:29]
but that's the goal at least is to minimize impact to
[24:31]
that, to the traveling public.
[24:33]
Is it possible for all the highway 82 work
[24:35]
to get done in one construction season?
[24:37]
You know that that is a possibility? I'm
[24:39]
Just wondering what the sequence of
[24:41]
Yeah.
[24:42]
That that's, that's, that's the $65 million question.
[24:46]
We are, we're, you know,
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the way we're gonna do this is once we bid it out,
[24:50]
hire a contractor, sit down and talk about schedule
[24:53]
and obviously impacts to, to the traveling public impacts
[24:56]
to the river corridor, our, our Paramount.
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We wanna reduce those.
[24:59]
And so we'll come up with an ideas
[25:01]
and it may be something
[25:02]
that we can both do in one construction season.
[25:05]
Perhaps there's some night work, you know,
[25:07]
we'll figure out what's the best way about doing this
[25:09]
that we can fit within the budget and the timeframe.
[25:11]
But, but certainly, you know, and,
[25:12]
and also, you know, with the Aspen airport being shut down,
[25:14]
that's gonna cause an increase of traffic.
[25:16]
So we're trying, we're trying to balance that out
[25:19]
and we recognize that it's not spectacular for,
[25:23]
for everybody to have to deal with the major project on a
[25:25]
major highway system.
[25:27]
I think it's a good idea all, all the way around
[25:30]
and needed it not only for the folks
[25:33]
that are going all the way through Glenwood,
[25:34]
but definitely for the folks that are going up to Four Mile.
[25:37]
Yeah. So, yeah. That's great.
[25:40]
Just for the sake of being here at the city of Rifle,
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what do you feel this project does
[25:44]
to benefit the citizens of Rifle?
[25:45]
Can you help us understand that?
[25:47]
And if we were to sign a letter of support, what would
[25:50]
that be asking for from Rifle specifically? Yeah.
[25:52]
We, we see this as, as really sort of integral
[25:55]
to like say the valley wide, right?
[25:57]
While it's obviously a Glenwood project in Glenwood Springs
[25:59]
financed a lot by Glenwood.
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I think there's some significant benefits.
[26:02]
I think one is if the traffic patterns sort
[26:06]
of pen pencil out as we kind of think there are,
[26:08]
it will be easier for folks to get in
[26:10]
and in through Glenwood Springs, right?
[26:12]
We know there is, you know, a good chunk of people
[26:14]
that commute up Valley from Newcastle, silt Rifle
[26:17]
and Parachute even further down, right?
[26:19]
We're hoping this saves a meaningful
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amount of time for those folks.
[26:23]
I will really highlight these safety
[26:25]
improvements on Highway 82.
[26:27]
You know, these accidents don't just, you know,
[26:29]
affect Glenwood Springs residents.
[26:31]
It is really kind of valley wide.
[26:33]
And again, as we sort of look at the increase in wildfire,
[26:37]
wildfire evacuation, again,
[26:39]
this gives us another opportunity
[26:40]
to get people in and out, right?
[26:42]
And so, you know,
[26:44]
God forbid there's a fire up four Mile, right?
[26:46]
This is a way of forcing a lot of people out.
[26:48]
Right now, those folks only have one, one way out.
[26:51]
But if we sort of look at what happened a couple weeks,
[26:53]
excuse me, a couple months ago, south Canyon was closed down
[26:56]
for a significant amount of time.
[26:59]
A lot of things happened, a lot of lessons learned, right?
[27:01]
But what one of the things I was thinking is if boy, if
[27:04]
that fire crusted that hill
[27:05]
and came down, all those people
[27:07]
who were jammed into Glenwood had to get out
[27:09]
and they only had one way basically down Highway 82,
[27:12]
that would've been equally challenging
[27:14]
to get those people out as there was getting in.
[27:16]
So South Bridge would provide that second opportunity.
[27:19]
And like I said, it's just a, a another chance
[27:22]
to get better flow patterns of traffic, right?
[27:25]
So I, I do, I do think, again, those safety improvements
[27:28]
and then I think there will be some modest amount of savings
[27:31]
and, and commute time for the Down Valley folks.
[27:33]
I think those are the things I'd highlight
[27:34]
for the City of Rifle.
[27:35]
Thank you.
[27:39]
Anybody else got questions?
[27:44]
Thanks guys. Well
[27:45]
Appreciate your time listening to us. Yeah, thank you.
[27:47]
Thank you. Thank you Mayor.
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Let's take up the consent agenda item that was pulled
[27:54]
before the public hearing.
[27:56]
You wanna do it now? Yeah. Okay.
[28:00]
Item five E consider the 90 day non-renewal notice
[28:03]
for the rough LLC.
[28:09]
And You just do the same background that you did at the
[28:14]
Yep.
[28:15]
So the request was,
[28:20]
I guess to go back City purchased the golf course
[28:23]
in April of this year.
[28:25]
At that time, there was an existing tenant
[28:29]
in the restaurant space who agreed to stay on.
[28:32]
We negotiated a lease with them through,
[28:35]
with help from Jim's office.
[28:37]
And as part of that lease there was a,
[28:43]
it was either for a year
[28:46]
or if it isn't pulled earlier than that,
[28:48]
it would turn over into a three year lease agreement.
[28:51]
And so currently there we're required to give notice
[28:54]
for it 90 days prior to the termination of lease,
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which was December 31st.
[28:59]
So that 90 days is the beginning of October
[29:03]
and we brought it to workshop for you all
[29:07]
and it's in front of you tonight
[29:11]
for recommendation that that's signed.
[29:16]
Yeah, I, I have some, some thoughts on this subject
[29:20]
and it kind of ret pertains
[29:22]
to the public private partnership
[29:25]
that the city's entering into here
[29:28]
and the process that the city's gonna use to lease
[29:32]
our spaces to for-profit entities.
[29:37]
When I spoke with Patrick about this yesterday,
[29:39]
I think there's several examples within the city of
[29:45]
opportunities that we could have to expand
[29:49]
those partnerships
[29:51]
and then kind of what function we have as a city
[29:54]
to be a good partner to businesses
[29:58]
that may choose to come and do business with us.
[30:03]
Earlier tonight, we were talking about the Ute Theater.
[30:08]
For those who don't know, the Avalon is a public-private
[30:11]
partnership almost exactly minus the private
[30:15]
as the Ute is managed.
[30:18]
The golf course is an interesting case in
[30:21]
that we acquired it halfway through the year.
[30:25]
We've had a, an operator at the facility up there
[30:29]
for a couple years.
[30:31]
And I think that's been appreciated to have a,
[30:33]
a high quality operator up there.
[30:37]
And I wanted to make sure
[30:38]
that we're not missing an opportunity to kind of standardize
[30:41]
or define our approach to how we, how we move
[30:46]
with these public-private partnerships, maximize the benefit
[30:50]
for the city and also
[30:54]
for the potential partners that we have.
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Specifically on this, on this item.
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One, one issue I had was that there wasn't a,
[31:07]
a notice of award date that we wouldn't award
[31:11]
or that we would award the, the bid
[31:16]
to whoever wins the RFP by a certain amount of time.
[31:21]
I'd also, you know, like to, to ensure
[31:25]
that this three year term that we're doing
[31:27]
for the RFP is reasonable to the business
[31:30]
and the business community.
[31:32]
That might be,
[31:36]
I lost it on my iPad here, that might be doing
[31:41]
or entering into these kind of agreements with us.
[31:44]
And I want to make sure that we have a,
[31:48]
an appropriate way to, to handle this as a city.
[31:52]
I think there's a bigger opportunity for us here.
[31:55]
And this was an entry into that for me.
[32:03]
And yeah, maybe this should have been brought up in the
[32:06]
workshop, but I, it was, it was kind of like a,
[32:10]
I don't know, it went really quick at the workshop and
[32:13]
after I started thinking about it, I'm,
[32:15]
I'm thinking about it like,
[32:17]
I was on the board at the golf course for a long time
[32:19]
and we always, we so struggled to get quality,
[32:24]
somebody quality to, you know,
[32:26]
they always started out really strong
[32:28]
and then kind of petered out the other people
[32:32]
that we had up there trying to lease that place.
[32:34]
And it got so frustrating that we actually like tried
[32:37]
to take the operation over ourselves for a few years.
[32:40]
And we've had a, we've had a somebody up there
[32:45]
for two solid years that's done a great job,
[32:50]
great food, lots of options, always there, always open.
[32:56]
I just, I just think we're being a little bit hasty
[33:00]
because I don't know if we want to get somebody else to
[33:04]
go up there to, to win this RFP
[33:07]
and maybe they're not gonna be
[33:09]
as good as what we have right now.
[33:11]
So I'm just,
[33:13]
and along with the stuff that Michael's talking about,
[33:16]
I just feel like this is, this is being rushed right now,
[33:19]
so, well the,
[33:21]
before we approved it, I just wanted to have some discussion
[33:24]
in front of the public and we've never done this before.
[33:27]
Right, right. So like it's so new. Yeah.
[33:32]
And, and October 1st is the date, right?
[33:36]
So if we, I was honestly hoping maybe we table this
[33:40]
for two weeks or we just vote
[33:43]
on it right now and get it done.
[33:44]
But I didn't want it to be on the consent agenda, so
[33:48]
I just wanted there to be more conversation.
[33:50]
So I, I'm, I know we're a city
[33:54]
and we've, we have maybe an obligation to the community
[33:58]
to put this out back out for lease.
[34:01]
Like a bit competition right.
[34:04]
Wise, but I'm also looking at it as like we have
[34:09]
somebody in there that's like, it's,
[34:12]
it just scares me and they, I apply.
[34:14]
They can, they can, yeah.
[34:17]
Would you do this the same
[34:18]
for a construction project though?
[34:19]
It's the same thing.
[34:20]
It's, it's, it's, we as a public entity need
[34:23]
to follow the process for every part of
[34:26]
that business process of bidding.
[34:27]
It's different when it was a private entity.
[34:29]
So when we met in the spring, we were gonna, we were,
[34:34]
I felt like we were gonna judge how they did
[34:37]
during the summer and, and,
[34:41]
and decide whether we were gonna renew the,
[34:43]
the lease based off of that.
[34:45]
And like, as far as I've seen, there's,
[34:47]
there hasn't been any complaints up there
[34:49]
and they've done a great job.
[34:51]
So I'm just afraid, I'm just afraid to, afraid
[34:53]
to make the change and have something
[34:55]
that's less after we try.
[34:57]
If we, if and when we do this change, if, if
[35:00]
and when two other, or two or three other people come in
[35:02]
and try to get the RFP, like I'm just, I just,
[35:07]
when I'm, I'm just telling you 20 years
[35:10]
of history in my mind right now.
[35:11]
Yeah. Or if no one showed, if no one bids. So Yeah.
[35:15]
And you got somebody that's very invested in it.
[35:17]
They've been there, they've done a lot of improvements.
[35:20]
They've like, it's, it's just a tough one for me.
[35:23]
So I think it fundamentally,
[35:26]
it is different than a conventional RFP process, right?
[35:31]
The the public public private partnership
[35:35]
that we're entering into number one in duration is much
[35:38]
longer, right?
[35:40]
Like three year construction projects don't,
[35:42]
hopefully they don't happen.
[35:44]
Although we just heard about one. That's
[35:46]
Good, Right?
[35:48]
And it's also revenue source for the city.
[35:53]
And I, I fundamentally view that revenue source as different
[35:58]
and having an approach to doing that.
[36:01]
You know, I bring up the ute
[36:04]
I think there's genuinely opportunity for some of this stuff
[36:07]
to occur at Rifle Mountain Park.
[36:10]
There's opportunities at the boat ramp
[36:13]
and just how do we, how do we approach these partnerships
[36:17]
because it it is, they're an operating partner
[36:20]
of a city asset,
[36:21]
which is fundamentally different than delivering a
[36:23]
service to the city.
[36:25]
True. They're, they're in charge of one of our assets.
[36:29]
I want to make sure that we have a defined approach
[36:31]
in a scope to do this.
[36:32]
You know, I've looked around, these partnerships exist
[36:36]
and there is documentation
[36:37]
and maybe Patrick can give us some background on
[36:41]
how you would structure the RFP,
[36:43]
what information would be included in it, you know,
[36:46]
what kind of research that the, the city staff has done into
[36:52]
constructing an effective partnership.
[36:55]
And Jim, maybe you have some experience with other,
[36:58]
So we, the one municipalities, two things.
[37:00]
One, I was talking about our conversation to Scott.
[37:05]
We do have the Brendan Theater.
[37:07]
So the city does operate with the Brendan Theater kind
[37:10]
of in a, in a similar type manner.
[37:14]
So I just wanna clarify that for you.
[37:15]
'cause I said there was none. The, the second thing,
[37:20]
so staff has done, we've had probably three
[37:22]
or four meetings internally about
[37:24]
what an RFP process would look like.
[37:25]
We have a pretty robust draft one right now.
[37:29]
We obviously haven't taken any action on any of that
[37:32]
because there's no formal notification from
[37:34]
council as of right now.
[37:37]
Totally. Something
[37:38]
that we could bring to you all to look at.
[37:41]
There's, we've pulled, there's a lot
[37:44]
of great RFPs to pull from.
[37:48]
'cause this is the general way
[37:49]
that most folks organize their golf course restaurants.
[37:52]
So there's some revenue sharing items in there.
[37:56]
There's some financial documentation that they have
[37:59]
to provide in order to make sure
[38:01]
that they can really pull it off.
[38:02]
They need references, they need experience,
[38:05]
all that sort of stuff.
[38:06]
So that, that type of thing is in there.
[38:09]
Happy to, you know,
[38:10]
it is a different thing than we normally do,
[38:12]
but happy to bring it to council for you all to look at
[38:16]
as part of the RFP
[38:17]
process, I think.
[38:21]
But we've, I, I want to applaud.
[38:23]
Iris has done a really good job, Cody
[38:26]
and Austin, of structuring
[38:28]
and pulling a bunch of research from other
[38:30]
places to put in there.
[38:33]
So I think from my perspective,
[38:35]
this isn't about the establishment itself.
[38:37]
This is about the process that we
[38:39]
as a city when when it was privately owned
[38:41]
and you had trouble, we are about to look at investing, how,
[38:45]
how much money into this to improve it
[38:47]
and increase the, the quality, I guess.
[38:51]
And not to say it wasn't great before,
[38:53]
but the whole reason the city did take it on,
[38:56]
one was for the water rights.
[38:57]
And two, because we wanna preserve this
[38:59]
as a community asset.
[39:00]
And, and everybody agreed that if we're going
[39:02]
to do this, we wanna do it right.
[39:04]
And I think that because people haven't applied in the past
[39:08]
or you've had trouble in the past,
[39:09]
I think is is not a good way to approach this
[39:13]
as a Oh well we, we don't know what's gonna happen.
[39:16]
We haven't even put it out there.
[39:18]
It's my understanding, I don't really go up
[39:19]
to the golf course that much, so I don't have
[39:21]
a personal experience with it.
[39:22]
But it's my understanding that the, with the level of work
[39:26]
that's been put into it and the sophistication that the city
[39:28]
with its resources
[39:30]
and ability to manage places
[39:33]
has done at the golf course has improved it
[39:35]
quite effectively.
[39:36]
And I think that next level is the, the, the food
[39:39]
and beverage and the the, with how much money we spend on
[39:42]
beverage carts, right?
[39:43]
Like there needs to be an expectation
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that people should compete for
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and they should have that opportunity to
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present their case based on competition
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of things have changed a lot in, in our region, I think.
[40:00]
And, and it may be that no one applies for it,
[40:03]
but then we, we are back to square one.
[40:04]
It this represents our city,
[40:06]
this represents our people and, and who we are.
[40:09]
I think it needs to go out to bid so that the best
[40:13]
of the best can have the opportunity to come in.
[40:17]
I just think that's our responsibility as the owner
[40:19]
of this golf course.
[40:20]
Now I, I think it's important.
[40:24]
I think it, I I said from the beginning it should have
[40:26]
probably gone to rp, but I understand that
[40:28]
that isn't realistic, right?
[40:30]
It wasn't at the time. No.
[40:31]
And, and I get that, but I just think in the matter of,
[40:34]
if we're setting expectations of
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what we want from this golf course
[40:37]
and how we're using our money, we should apply it to all
[40:40]
aspects of, of the operation.
[40:42]
I agree totally. And I think
[40:44]
that the council should be involved in that RFP process
[40:47]
and have some guidance
[40:49]
and some oversight into what that looks like
[40:52]
and have a real discussion around what that partnership is.
[40:56]
That's exactly my point. I agree completely.
[41:01]
We're gonna be terminating this
[41:04]
and looking into kind of void as it currently stands.
[41:08]
I don't understand what the RF P's gonna look like. Yeah.
[41:10]
I don't know what profit sharing
[41:11]
and those, those kind of items, how do we
[41:14]
as a council position that thing to be the most successful?
[41:19]
That to me that's the piece
[41:21]
and that's the structure that we should take
[41:24]
as an organization to maximize that asset.
[41:28]
Not, oh, this is an opportunity.
[41:32]
We should put it up for bid. Totally agree.
[41:35]
But how are we gonna do that?
[41:36]
How are we gonna further that opportunity?
[41:38]
Yeah. We have to set the expectations and criteria gets,
[41:41]
Yeah.
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It's the whole scope of the,
[41:43]
Of the r And is there,
[41:44]
I don't know if there is an evaluation
[41:46]
piece to this right now.
[41:47]
Like I think I asked if there's any, been any feedback
[41:51]
or surveys, you know, in the business world you have,
[41:56]
you can measure it by certain criteria.
[41:59]
I'm not sure if that is even possible,
[42:01]
but there isn't that mechanism right now to understand
[42:04]
what the community, the, the feedback is your
[42:06]
people's personal experience.
[42:07]
But we don't know a whole wide variety of that.
[42:11]
At least I don't. So
[42:13]
One of the things that I frequently see, and
[42:15]
and Scott maybe you have some experience with this,
[42:17]
but is requesting letters of interest and,
[42:22]
and going through that process to, to evaluate what that is,
[42:28]
you know, what that interest is
[42:29]
and yeah, I I, I agree it should be, hey, bring the best
[42:35]
to the city that you can, who would be interested in it?
[42:40]
You know, maybe there is only one responder.
[42:42]
Maybe that that is a, a reality that we face.
[42:47]
I don't, I don't know.
[42:50]
But you know, how do we evaluate and,
[42:53]
and use those processes that are, I I would say commonplace
[42:57]
inside of these spaces.
[42:59]
You know, Karen, I'm sure with your purchasing history
[43:02]
that you guys would see who,
[43:03]
who is interested in bidding on these things
[43:06]
And Well, you don't know until you put it out.
[43:08]
You don't know who the competitors really are.
[43:11]
We're getting bids on all
[43:12]
of our projects that we're doing.
[43:13]
Right? I mean, we're going out to bid on them,
[43:15]
being competitive with them.
[43:17]
We don't see why this would be any different.
[43:18]
We're just saying that you have, we are gonna do that
[43:22]
with the golf course and whoever's there can still
[43:26]
apply and go for it.
[43:28]
Or you can have other people or you might have
[43:31]
No one.
[43:32]
I don't think anybody's saying do that differently. Right.
[43:35]
I'm saying this is a,
[43:36]
like the Brendan Theater, we have a lease with them. Yeah.
[43:39]
It's a little different than this.
[43:41]
They definitely, yeah. I'm
[43:43]
Not like a dollar a Year or something. No, no. It's
[43:46]
Gave us Yeah, 22,000 bucks a Month.
[43:48]
Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's, at the time it was market,
[43:51]
it had to be, it couldn't be too market
[43:54]
because of what they're doing for the community.
[43:56]
So I don't think Bren and it's not our theater, it's theirs.
[44:00]
They built it, they own it.
[44:02]
It's just on our land
[44:03]
and they're paying a pretty good lease for the land.
[44:05]
The ground Ground lease.
[44:07]
The ground lease. Yeah. Yeah.
[44:08]
So the, I mean the, the,
[44:12]
this is like a con concession air,
[44:15]
a concession agreement is really
[44:16]
what we're doing with the golf course.
[44:18]
And I mean, state parks do it.
[44:20]
There's a lot of public private partnership.
[44:24]
I'm not, I think they're a contractor.
[44:26]
So there's lots of examples of this.
[44:29]
You don't want to do it. Clin Clint tried it. That's what
[44:32]
I'm Worried about.
[44:34]
And and Austin doesn't want to do it. No.
[44:37]
So, so in terms of the RP,
[44:41]
I do think staff's got a pretty good head start on all this.
[44:45]
And if you approve this letter tonight, you'll have time
[44:49]
to look at the process.
[44:51]
You don't have too much time
[44:53]
because whoever gets this is gonna need to start planning
[44:55]
for next year pretty quickly.
[44:57]
And the reason it's three years is so
[44:59]
that they don't have to do this every year.
[45:00]
It's a lot of instability.
[45:02]
No one wants to go through that if they don't
[45:04]
know they can, you know?
[45:05]
So, and I think that's fair. I think so. Yeah.
[45:07]
Once you pick someone, you gotta give them. Yes, exactly.
[45:09]
And that's what I mean, if we are going into,
[45:10]
this is a big commitment too.
[45:11]
Yeah. But I think you have time to do that.
[45:15]
Happy to change our normal process.
[45:17]
However council would like, I mean I know
[45:20]
so other places No,
[45:21]
You're not, you're not gonna set up this RFP like
[45:24]
a construction job
[45:25]
RFP.
[45:26]
Right? It's very different. D
[45:27]
That's what I'm saying. What is our normal
[45:29]
Procedure?
[45:30]
Yeah. So it has very different submittal criteria,
[45:32]
but you know, it is lots of places could bring this decision
[45:37]
to counsel like in a workshop.
[45:39]
These are the five people we got.
[45:41]
Now you guys are choosing, you know,
[45:43]
who you'd like to see or not.
[45:45]
That's not how we've done things in rifle.
[45:47]
It's generally a staff thing.
[45:49]
There's staff review of the applications that we received.
[45:52]
We provide you with recommendation. Yeah.
[45:54]
And moves forward from there. It'll be based off
[45:57]
similar criteria.
[45:59]
I, and I'd have to pull it from the draft that we have.
[46:02]
But you know, there's identified criteria that we score
[46:06]
based on the submittal of the application. References
[46:09]
Also.
[46:10]
Also, yep. References interview is likely
[46:12]
the process that's included.
[46:14]
So it's much more, and we do this
[46:16]
for professional services regularly.
[46:18]
Right. So when you're choosing,
[46:19]
so it's not gonna be a startup business,
[46:20]
a design firm. I mean you're, you're
[46:22]
Could be, and I wouldn't, I prob I I think it's so early
[46:26]
in our, in the city's ownership of this to profit sharing.
[46:31]
And if, if you, if you try to, it looks like
[46:33]
that make it too much of a money maker, you don't,
[46:35]
I don't think you have that information yet.
[46:37]
Maybe another three years you do.
[46:38]
And as you're making all these improvements
[46:40]
and then you have these numbers, then you realize, okay,
[46:43]
you've got a really sweet deal.
[46:45]
It is, we're the ones putting all this money
[46:47]
in to get all these people here.
[46:48]
And then you may renegotiate it.
[46:49]
So I, I just think you may not have the information in this
[46:52]
round to maximize Yeah.
[46:55]
That benefit.
[46:58]
Do you think that the three year term, you know,
[47:01]
conventional restaurants are, are hard to run?
[47:04]
You know, I think that's why we see so many
[47:07]
food trucks much less capital intensive.
[47:10]
Yeah. Much. Do, do you think three years, I mean,
[47:14]
have you seen these, have you negotiated?
[47:16]
Is three years long enough?
[47:17]
I think we got that from the current operator.
[47:20]
That's what they wanted.
[47:21]
And so we're like, well you're in the industry.
[47:22]
So we accepted that.
[47:24]
I think I'd be afraid to go too much further
[47:27]
because if, if you have a new operator that you don't know
[47:31]
what, how they're gonna be, so to go
[47:33]
to five might is a long commitment.
[47:35]
And then two is probably not long enough.
[47:36]
So I think that's why we have the three,
[47:38]
which is a sweet spot.
[47:39]
And if you get someone you love, then you can
[47:41]
work from there and, you know,
[47:43]
and the renewal maybe go for five
[47:44]
and obviously at performance standards
[47:46]
where you could call a default and,
[47:48]
and hold them, you know, to the standards.
[47:50]
So I, I think three feels about right
[47:53]
for this next round. I agree.
[47:56]
I agree. Okay.
[48:00]
So what would be a motion on this?
[48:02]
You can enter, you just read it,
[48:04]
But do we need to make adjustments on it
[48:06]
Or?
[48:07]
So the, the only thing that I would like, in addition to,
[48:09]
well if you, if you vote to
[48:12]
approve or deny it doesn't matter.
[48:13]
If you wanna see the RFP, I'd just like direction for that.
[48:17]
Yeah. Because it's not, it's sort of outside
[48:18]
of our normal process.
[48:20]
So can I say it and requesting staff
[48:23]
to provide counsel with
[48:24]
Yep.
[48:25]
Which would probably be at maybe your next meeting or Yeah,
[48:27]
We'd probably bring it to you.
[48:28]
'cause it's time. We wanna, we want
[48:30]
to get it out time if we're gonna do it.
[48:32]
So it likely would be,
[48:34]
I can't start the workshop any earlier with
[48:38]
Actually a workshop.
[48:39]
It may it a good workshop.
[48:40]
It probably, it might be a presentation item
[48:42]
that we just bring to you guys and Yeah.
[48:44]
Sort of get feedback in,
[48:45]
in this setting on it. Just because,
[48:49]
So do you wanna hold It needs to move.
[48:51]
Do you wanna hold on the 90 day notice until we have this?
[48:54]
No, you, you need to. Okay.
[48:56]
You have to decide if, if, if that's what I'm,
[48:57]
I'm just, do you wanna go to an RFP?
[48:59]
You need to approve this us sending this letter.
[49:02]
'cause you want to get like the RFP out
[49:03]
by like October 1st
[49:05]
Probably, or no, in October.
[49:07]
But you need to, you need to send this
[49:08]
notice under the current lease.
[49:10]
Yep. So our, That's the important piece. October 1st.
[49:13]
Well, we have right now This is your last meeting.
[49:15]
Yep. So you all know This is our
[49:17]
first, we have a second. Let's,
[49:18]
Right, we have one more.
[49:20]
Yes. I, it actually takes a lot of pressure out. Sorry. I
[49:24]
That's why, that's why Thank you. Sorry.
[49:27]
That's okay. So right now we,
[49:29]
what we have sketched out staff in ours.
[49:32]
Thank you Alexis. Pulled it up is that we would
[49:36]
put it out, I think in September 22nd.
[49:39]
That's not on here. Pre-bid meeting. October 20th.
[49:44]
Question deadline. So we always have questions in our
[49:46]
proposals about what people wanna submit
[49:48]
or not would be October 26th.
[49:51]
Due date for proposal is November 4th.
[49:54]
So that's when they would have to submit to us.
[49:57]
And then the notice of award is December 2nd, which that,
[50:00]
that piece is longer than we normally do for our process.
[50:04]
But we anticipate that this will have an interview
[50:08]
associated with it as well.
[50:10]
So that's, that's the
[50:13]
what's scheduled right now in the draft RFP that we have.
[50:18]
So with an award on December 2nd,
[50:21]
the holidays mixed in there.
[50:22]
They've got 20 days, something like that to,
[50:27]
to vacate the premises
[50:28]
and get, would we expect the new operator
[50:30]
to be in there January one?
[50:33]
It's up to them when they want to open.
[50:35]
Yeah. They historically no one's we, we don't charge
[50:39]
during that time period usually
[50:41]
unless they'd like to be
[50:43]
operating. So it would be up to them.
[50:46]
What would be the open date for the new one?
[50:48]
Oh, I March 1st probably
[50:50]
When just golfing start.
[50:52]
Yeah, I'd march. Have to look at on the
[50:54]
Winter. But's normally around
[50:55]
The weather.
[50:56]
It was winter last year.
[50:59]
Yeah. I'd have to check the, the current lease March 1st.
[51:03]
I think March is probably when
[51:04]
we're starting to charge a rent.
[51:06]
Yeah. And we actually didn't even do that this year
[51:08]
'cause we didn't buy it until April.
[51:10]
So I, from staff's perspective,
[51:14]
I appreciate all your concerns.
[51:16]
We're, we're working through this as best we can
[51:18]
after purchasing
[51:19]
and onboarding a new department starting in April.
[51:23]
So do we really need to change the motion to do that?
[51:26]
You just know that we wanna see it
[51:27]
and it doesn't have to be in the motion, right? Because
[51:29]
As, as long as everyone,
[51:30]
What we're trying to do is the 90 day thing right now,
[51:31]
As long as everyone's, yeah,
[51:33]
it could be two separate things,
[51:34]
but as long as you're all good with me bringing the RFP
[51:37]
and people are interested, I just, it's like
[51:39]
outside my process generally.
[51:42]
So that's the only thing. So if everyone's fine with that,
[51:44]
then I, no one's shaking their head this
[51:46]
Way.
[51:47]
I think what you just said was you just,
[51:48]
you just onboarded a whole new department
[51:50]
that's completely new to, to staff
[51:52]
and it's been quite a undertaking going
[51:55]
through this process, even if it is
[51:56]
outside your regular processes,
[51:58]
probably beneficial to everybody.
[52:01]
Yeah. Yeah. Meaning like, yes.
[52:03]
I, I think I fully support going through the steps
[52:06]
and even if it requires a bit more work on our part and,
[52:09]
and, and staff to, to, to make
[52:12]
through which make sure that it's,
[52:14]
And and just to throw one last, the branch.
[52:17]
So there is time. So the 90 days is October 2nd,
[52:22]
so that's the, that's the deadline.
[52:24]
So it would need to be in September for the letter to
[52:28]
Go.
[52:29]
Yeah, it needs to be at this meeting or the next meeting.
[52:30]
But it sounds like you wanna put the RFP out like
[52:33]
September 22nd, which wouldn't give you very much time if we
[52:35]
did it our next meeting.
[52:37]
And I'm fine with doing it at this meeting.
[52:39]
It's, I'm, I have no problem either way. So
[52:45]
I, I move to move forward
[52:46]
with the 90 day non renewal notice
[52:49]
for the rough LL Cs I.
[52:58]
We have a motion from Councillor BH Hall
[52:59]
and a second from Councilor Rice
[53:00]
to authorize the city manager to sign the 90 day notice
[53:03]
of non-renewable to the RLLC in accordance
[53:06]
with the terms of the lease agreement. Mayor House settler.
[53:10]
No. Councillor Clancy.
[53:15]
No. Councillor Marsh. Yes.
[53:20]
Councillor Roberts. Yes. Councillor Rice. Yes.
[53:23]
Councillor Grassley. Yes.
[53:25]
Councillor Barnhold. Yes. Thank you. Motion passes.
[53:29]
I'll bring the RFP to you all at the next meeting. Okay.
[53:32]
That's perfect.
[53:37]
Okay, now we're ready for a public hearing.
[53:40]
Sorry about that guys. But it just, I just, oh
[53:42]
No, I thought that was good.
[53:43]
Thanks for no things coming
[53:45]
because I wouldn't have known that was
[53:50]
Alright, we're gonna, we're gonna have a public hearing
[53:54]
to consider the rezoning Grand River Hospital District Lots
[53:57]
and PUD amendment.
[53:58]
Ordinance number 18 series of 2026 on first reading.
[54:04]
I'm gonna open the public hearing.
[54:06]
I'm gonna ask looks like gear to step forward
[54:09]
and ask him if public notice been met.
[54:12]
Yes, it has. All right, go ahead
[54:14]
and give us your presentation
[54:16]
Now.
[54:17]
For whatever reason it decided to shut down.
[54:18]
Oh, just so,
[54:22]
And actually, mayor, before,
[54:23]
before we start quickly, I need to recuse myself as a member
[54:27]
of the Grand River Board of Directors from Issue eight A
[54:31]
and issue nine A as well.
[54:33]
Okay.
[54:34]
You have it saved. He said
[54:39]
this happens every time.
[54:49]
Sorry. Sorry. There, it's,
[54:54]
It's shut the minute I plugged in the
[54:55]
HD MI it shut us itself off.
[54:58]
It'll be fine. My computer doesn't like
[55:01]
council chambers for some reason.
[55:05]
No HDMI.
[55:08]
I'm just glad it's on September 2nd. I'm sorry late.
[55:12]
It's going. It's going now. Apologize
[55:17]
One of these days. We'll figure it out.
[55:18]
The eclipsed last week just messed everything up
[55:32]
Mayor Counsel, what we have
[55:33]
before you is a rezone application
[55:34]
for the Grand River Plaza.
[55:37]
Lots that Grand River Hospital District owns as well as
[55:41]
amendment to their existing PUD for the hospital campus.
[55:52]
Alright, well we'll do it that way.
[55:54]
The applicant in this case is Justin Dip Pietro.
[55:56]
He's with the Davis Partnership Architects.
[55:58]
They are, the architects have done most
[56:00]
of the work over at Grand River.
[56:01]
Grand River Hospital District is the owner.
[56:04]
The existing zoning on the hospital is L-A-P-U-D,
[56:08]
which is light Industrial Planned Development.
[56:10]
The zoning on the Grand River Plaza lots
[56:14]
that they own is cs.
[56:15]
What we're asking for is a rezone from CS on lots one
[56:19]
through five, seven through 12 to the L-A-P-D-P-U-D
[56:23]
and amending the existing PUD.
[56:27]
Right now it's zoned with a height limit of 45 feet.
[56:32]
The Grand River Plaza lots are zoned.
[56:34]
Cs as I mentioned, the current
[56:37]
three story patient wing in the medical a buildings
[56:40]
currently do exceed the 45 foot height.
[56:42]
The way we measure currently,
[56:44]
what this POD amendment will do is bring these two
[56:48]
or all the buildings on the campus into compliance.
[56:51]
They are asking for 50 feet
[56:53]
and this is to accommodate new equipment.
[56:56]
They need about 15 feet per floor,
[56:58]
which gets them a minimum of 45.
[57:00]
And then by the time we get structure in there,
[57:03]
they need a minimum of 50.
[57:05]
They are requesting that parapets and so forth be exempt.
[57:09]
That's all listed in the report here.
[57:11]
Is this the same map showing the, the lots there is one lot
[57:15]
that is not a part as in the comprehensive plan
[57:18]
as community commercial.
[57:21]
It is in our tier one growth area
[57:24]
and it is a South rifle neighborhood.
[57:26]
As you can see here. This is the one parcel
[57:29]
listed is not a part, so it is owned separately.
[57:34]
The PUD amendment, as I mentioned,
[57:36]
will be increasing the height to 50 feet.
[57:39]
We are asking that the li, I'm sorry,
[57:43]
the height limitation exemptions be restricted
[57:46]
or taken out of the code
[57:47]
because it already exists in our zoning code.
[57:52]
Quickly. This is the site plan of the existing hospital.
[57:56]
You can see the proposed medical office building.
[57:58]
It does cross three property lines.
[58:01]
They have processed a lot line dissolution
[58:04]
and that will be recorded.
[58:07]
Quick note, this is what the building will look like
[58:10]
as we'd like it from Megan from Airport Road, kind
[58:14]
of looking towards out last chance
[58:17]
and airport road looking directly west.
[58:21]
So we did refer this out to our public works department
[58:25]
and Colorado Risk, Colorado River Rescue.
[58:29]
We felt that they were the two entities
[58:31]
that had the most concerns about the building height.
[58:35]
Currently, Colorado River does have the equipment
[58:37]
to handle that height.
[58:39]
They wouldn't have to do any more equipments.
[58:41]
And as our Public works director says if as long
[58:44]
as they're not going in the ground,
[58:46]
he didn't really worry about it.
[58:49]
The proposed lot line dissolution will accommodate future
[58:51]
development of the Grand River Hospital campus.
[58:54]
This re by removing
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the lot lines it we no longer have the obstacle of needing
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to do future lot line dissolutions and expanding
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and ex amending the existing LIPD will ensure
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that the hospital develops in a cohesive manner.
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And as I mentioned, the staff's only concern is no limited,
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no limitation language for the listed exceptions
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to the height limit.
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These exemptions currently exist in our code
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and approval of that language in the PUD would exempt them
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from future code amendments if we decide that we're going
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to amend that portion.
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So we didn't wanna give them that caveat forever.
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We did go through our standard findings
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and everything, met our tests.
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We are recommending approval.
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Well the planning zoning commission recommended approval
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of the rezone with these conditions.
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All representations made by the applicant in the application
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and during the public hearing shall be conditions
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of approval unless specifically
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altered by the planning commission.
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They didn't alternate anything.
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The applicant shall resolve all referral comments as a part
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of the final ll D plan submittal to the satisfaction of City
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of Rifle and outside reviewing agencies.
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Standard app or condition is applicant shall provide GIS
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information before the final plat is recorded.
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That way Erica can update our GIS layers
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and that we remove the no limitation language
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from the L-I-P-U-D.
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And with that I can answer any questions you may have.
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I saw housing on one of the slides. I I thought I did.
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Is there any housing or anything?
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There is no housing, no. I
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Just thought I saw something there
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On that side of the road.
[1:00:26]
Not the, on that side of Megan anyway. Yeah.
[1:00:29]
So what we have to the east is vacant
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county land across the street is the Fritz Land
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project if it ever takes off.
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Yeah. As well as the Hampton project.
[1:00:40]
Across the street is Walmart and the retail
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and to the south is last chance ditch and vacant land.
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Excellent. Just wanted to make certain there wasn't gonna
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be on the street parked up there with
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that being the truck detour.
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It makes it hard when there's parking on there.
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Yeah, no, there is no parking proposed for Megan.
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Thank you.
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I I'm curious about Megan
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and I know that this doesn't, you know, specifically pertain
[1:01:12]
to this rezone, but you know, with the increased traffic
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and the turn turning lanes coming in
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and out of Megan can kind of be an ordeal, especially
[1:01:26]
for larger equipment, larger vehicles,
[1:01:31]
specifically turning south onto Megan.
[1:01:36]
Is there, you know, is there any risk
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of us losing the ability to widen Megan
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or make a turn lane there later on
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in the development by, by doing this?
[1:01:50]
The traffic studies to the best of my knowledge,
[1:01:52]
did not show any concerns in that regard.
[1:01:54]
And Craig, our public works director would've noted
[1:01:57]
that had that been
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A concern.
[1:01:59]
And I don't think I agree with Michael.
[1:02:00]
I think it's already a difficult turn.
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It's Horrible and it's bad.
[1:02:04]
And once that building the new hospital building is there
[1:02:07]
and the increase in traffic, it's only gonna get worse.
[1:02:11]
Yeah. Yeah. Try driving an FF two 50 around that corner
[1:02:15]
and you're out into the
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Traffic.
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If, if all the cars are in there traffic, you can't,
[1:02:18]
you wouldn't be able to turn.
[1:02:20]
I I'm not saying that all of Megan would need
[1:02:22]
to be expanded, but I think turning lanes right there at
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that corner need to be looked at.
[1:02:29]
I'm not sure what a traffic study showed,
[1:02:30]
but we drive it, I drive it frequently
[1:02:34]
And we can make that a condition of approval
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that they readdress that before.
[1:02:37]
Yes. We do the final
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Flight.
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I think we need to,
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Like I say that is a, a truck route for the county.
[1:02:45]
'cause you can't take the wide loads through
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Oh Right.
[1:02:50]
Pass the CDOT shop there.
[1:02:54]
Is that part of this, I guess
[1:02:57]
I agree with these guys.
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It's not part we're talking about right now. How do
[1:03:01]
We, how do we raise that concern
[1:03:04]
but in, in the appropriate
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Yeah. How do we get that place?
[1:03:09]
The, the project itself has been approved
[1:03:11]
and permitted already, right?
[1:03:12]
No, no. That's what, that's
[1:03:14]
what this is that needs this zoning. This
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Is just the last part, but the,
[1:03:18]
we're not talking about turning lanes right now and the,
[1:03:22]
and the p and z hasn't brought up turning lanes this entire
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Time.
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Right. And the, you've started the review
[1:03:27]
of the site plan approval already. Yeah.
[1:03:29]
They have submitted their building plans.
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We have not approved them as of yet because we need this,
[1:03:35]
Because that's what would trigger it.
[1:03:37]
And I, but I think it's been looked at even
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though it's not approved.
[1:03:41]
Yeah. If, if the project doesn't require
[1:03:45]
the improvement then,
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which I haven't heard anything about that.
[1:03:49]
And, and our public works director is very familiar
[1:03:53]
with the Megan intersection being substandard.
[1:03:57]
So I was not here,
[1:03:59]
but speaking for him, I assume that that would be something
[1:04:02]
that he would've had reviewed
[1:04:04]
to make sure there's adequate right of way
[1:04:06]
to make sure we have a turning lane.
[1:04:07]
But I don't have that from him for sure.
[1:04:10]
So if we approve this, are we negating ourselves
[1:04:14]
of being able to add in the turning lane later?
[1:04:21]
If you want the hospital pay for it,
[1:04:23]
Of course we can.
[1:04:25]
Then you can.
[1:04:27]
Well what we're just rezoning it right now. We're not
[1:04:31]
But the rezones gonna allow the site plan app appro.
[1:04:34]
Right. I guess you could still get it
[1:04:35]
with the site plan approval because if it, if it triggers a,
[1:04:39]
a traffic need, then you can require
[1:04:41]
them to build the improvements.
[1:04:42]
We will have public works review the site
[1:04:46]
or the construction package before it's approved.
[1:04:49]
So they will have to sign off on it
[1:04:50]
and we can bring those concerns up to Craig.
[1:04:53]
So you guys are talking about the right turn when you get
[1:04:56]
to the end of Megan, not the left turn with the stop, right?
[1:04:58]
No, no, no. Like if you turn right next to the Hampton
[1:05:00]
to go to the back of the hospital airport south onto turn.
[1:05:04]
Oh, just the turn onto Megan. Yes. The left hand.
[1:05:07]
Even when you come out and then
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Change and even when you come out, it's,
[1:05:10]
it's, it's very narrow.
[1:05:12]
It's challenge, it's super narrow right now.
[1:05:14]
I think it would be cool if all the
[1:05:15]
parking lots were connected.
[1:05:17]
'cause this new parking lot's not gonna
[1:05:19]
be connected for the rest of it.
[1:05:20]
Yeah. And that's kind of crazy. Rest of the Grand
[1:05:21]
River complex.
[1:05:23]
So if you're like going from one building
[1:05:25]
to another building in the complex, like, hey here,
[1:05:29]
we're gonna send you over here for this
[1:05:30]
or send you over here for an x-ray or,
[1:05:32]
and I don't know how all that's gonna work there, but like
[1:05:36]
Yeah, there's a driveway Right there. There
[1:05:38]
Is a connection on the south side of the building.
[1:05:40]
Oh, there is? Okay. Okay. I got it.
[1:05:42]
I couldn't see it on that other one.
[1:05:44]
I think that really helps a lot. I'm just talking about the
[1:05:46]
With way you guys are talking Right. Turn off of
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Airport.
[1:05:49]
You can still come, but you can still come into the main
[1:05:52]
entrance of the hospital, cut across the
[1:05:54]
parking lot and get over there. Yeah.
[1:05:55]
Right. That's the way I get
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to everywhere on that complex. I
[1:05:58]
Complex.
[1:05:59]
I mean if you're going to physical therapy right now,
[1:06:00]
I realize that that's gonna be in the new building.
[1:06:02]
But you have to turn down Megan, you have
[1:06:03]
to go back down to the back of the hospital.
[1:06:05]
And if there's, I'm
[1:06:07]
Not sure what you would do to that to,
[1:06:08]
to make that left hand.
[1:06:10]
I understand the right hand turn if you put
[1:06:12]
like a turning lane in there.
[1:06:13]
Yeah. And that might help the left hand
[1:06:15]
turn if there's actually a turning. Yeah. If
[1:06:16]
The whole thing is wider.
[1:06:18]
Yep. It's it's all about the
[1:06:21]
the the intersection is very 90 degrees.
[1:06:23]
Yeah. Is the problem. Very not right.
[1:06:26]
A lot of turning radius there.
[1:06:29]
It the airport road right of way just pulling it up is,
[1:06:34]
is wide.
[1:06:36]
So that helps for the turf. And Megan is not off airport.
[1:06:38]
Megan is, and Megan is not Megan's narrow,
[1:06:41]
but I think it's not necessarily the issue of the right it.
[1:06:45]
Right. I'm sort of getting outside my scope,
[1:06:47]
but I assume that Craig's looked at,
[1:06:52]
I think the challenge is we are at a position
[1:06:55]
where we don't want to miss out on our opportunity
[1:06:58]
to make sure we highlight exactly this need.
[1:07:00]
Exactly. And get too far beyond without bringing it up.
[1:07:03]
So if there is another step,
[1:07:06]
If we have another, there's
[1:07:07]
A, there's a building permit issuance is the next step.
[1:07:10]
Yes. And that will come before us.
[1:07:11]
Doesn't catch that won't come before us. See as
[1:07:13]
Long.
[1:07:14]
It's just gonna go to planning. Right.
[1:07:15]
Need to, so right now you're,
[1:07:16]
you first reading of the ordinance.
[1:07:17]
If you wanna act on it, you can,
[1:07:18]
there's still a second reading, which
[1:07:19]
by then we'll have talked to Craig
[1:07:21]
and have a lot more information
[1:07:23]
and can bring that up on second
[1:07:25]
reading if there is a problem.
[1:07:27]
But we also have the site plan approval,
[1:07:29]
which is a building permit, which the code requires them to
[1:07:33]
construct and needed improvements if that
[1:07:37]
project triggers it. Doubtful.
[1:07:41]
Yep. There's a lot of stuff already there,
[1:07:46]
but if this pushes it over the edge,
[1:07:49]
It's a pretty good increase in traffic I would assume.
[1:07:51]
Yeah. Yeah. There's, it'd Be huge.
[1:07:54]
I mean That
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Should be the triggering point,
[1:07:56]
Right?
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We're going down Late, the percentage increase based on
[1:07:59]
the overall hospital traffic.
[1:08:01]
It's small.
[1:08:02]
Yeah. That's what I'm, yeah.
[1:08:04]
Craig, Craig did go through this analysis
[1:08:06]
and we talked about the, the intersection being improved and
[1:08:11]
'cause we, this was brought up
[1:08:14]
previously about should Megan be improved or not with this
[1:08:16]
Project, even back when
[1:08:17]
we were talking about FirstLine, right? FirstLine,
[1:08:20]
Yeah. We even definitely talked
[1:08:22]
Likely then, but I wasn't here for that.
[1:08:24]
But we've talked about it for this project specifically.
[1:08:26]
And the numbers that were produced from this project didn't
[1:08:29]
warrant the hospital paying
[1:08:32]
for any additional improvement to this intersection.
[1:08:34]
I think that was the same with Fritz. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:08:37]
I just, so while we understand that there's, you know,
[1:08:40]
maybe it's not the best intersection.
[1:08:42]
It it, Craig didn't see this
[1:08:44]
as the hospital being the trigger
[1:08:46]
to make the improvement on Megan.
[1:08:48]
It's already bad. So it's,
[1:08:49]
I know it's already bad the way it is right now. So
[1:08:52]
They will be paying all of their standard impact fees
[1:08:55]
to the street fund, which,
[1:08:57]
So then in the future it's gonna be on the city to,
[1:08:59]
to widen that portion.
[1:09:00]
It wouldn't be all of Megan. It's only that turning portion.
[1:09:04]
And it, it is the reason
[1:09:05]
for our street impact fees is the,
[1:09:07]
if you aren't causing the entirety of the problem that you
[1:09:10]
Had Yeah. Oh yeah. Pay
[1:09:11]
Off your for future improvements.
[1:09:14]
That one's tough to say.
[1:09:15]
Obviously there's a lot going on over there.
[1:09:17]
It's not just the hospital
[1:09:20]
And Any, anybody that's here from Grand River tonight,
[1:09:22]
we really want this project to happen.
[1:09:24]
I just, it's just we're just Yeah.
[1:09:26]
I'm talking about and we're talking, and right now we're
[1:09:28]
talking about allowing a 50 foot Yeah.
[1:09:31]
That, Yeah. A five foot raise in the,
[1:09:33]
and I think we should probably just stick to that right now.
[1:09:36]
And,
[1:09:37]
But, but I wanna understand, is this a,
[1:09:39]
like this is a concern.
[1:09:40]
Let let our staff take care of the rest of it.
[1:09:42]
Yeah. We, I'm asking of Jim, I guess like
[1:09:46]
Yeah, I mean there's the building permit
[1:09:48]
issuance, right? Yeah.
[1:09:49]
You, I I just went through this. I'll go through it again.
[1:09:51]
You can. No, I know. I just That's
[1:09:53]
what making clear. Yeah.
[1:09:54]
And I mean these kind
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of decisions are difficult like this.
[1:09:58]
And I know that you want it fixed,
[1:10:00]
but we, we have professional staff that's looking at it
[1:10:03]
and doing it lawfully
[1:10:04]
and I don't want an arbitrary capricious decision
[1:10:07]
to just go flying out from your DAAs on us.
[1:10:10]
Yeah. So, but you can take action on this
[1:10:14]
ordinance on first reading.
[1:10:16]
We will get Craig here for second reading.
[1:10:18]
We'll not put it on your consent agenda.
[1:10:20]
And you also have, that's the rezoning
[1:10:22]
that allows this to happen.
[1:10:24]
And then you also have the site plan approval building
[1:10:27]
permit, which the RIF municipal code requires any offsite
[1:10:31]
impacts to be mitigated as part of their project.
[1:10:34]
However, I'm just letting you know there's a really good
[1:10:37]
chance that this increase isn't going to be enough
[1:10:41]
to put this on the hospital as much
[1:10:43]
as we have a problem. I see what you're saying. And
[1:10:45]
That, and that's okay.
[1:10:47]
I just wanted, I think knowing that is helpful Good
[1:10:50]
with this in my opinion. Yeah.
[1:10:53]
Is there any other questions from Council for Gear?
[1:10:58]
Do we have any comments
[1:11:02]
or questions from the public?
[1:11:09]
Oh, man. All right. I'm gonna close the public hearing.
[1:11:15]
Any other discussion from the council on this?
[1:11:20]
Yes. We not hearing. I would entertain a motion.
[1:11:24]
It's not sure. I'll move to approve rezoning a portion
[1:11:28]
of Grand River Hospital District lots, one through five
[1:11:31]
and seven through 12 in the amendment
[1:11:33]
to the Grand River Health PUD ordinance number 18 series
[1:11:37]
of 2026 on first reading as presented
[1:11:40]
and ordered, published as char required by charter.
[1:11:44]
Second We have a motion from Councilor Clancy
[1:11:48]
and the second from Councillor Marsh
[1:11:50]
to approve rezoning portion
[1:11:52]
of Grand River Hospital District lots.
[1:11:54]
One through five and seven through 12.
[1:11:56]
And the amendment to the Grand River Health PUD ordinance
[1:11:58]
number 18 series of 2026 on first reading as presented
[1:12:02]
and ordered, published as required
[1:12:04]
by Charter Councillor Grassley.
[1:12:06]
Yes. Councillor Clancy. Yes. Councillor Roberts. Yes.
[1:12:10]
Mayor ha Settler. Yes. Councillor Marsh. Yes.
[1:12:13]
Councillor Bool. Yes.
[1:12:14]
Thank You. Motion passes.
[1:12:18]
Thanks. Gear. You stand here. Yeah. We have another.
[1:12:22]
All right. Regular agenda item nine.
[1:12:23]
A consider approving the vacation of right of way
[1:12:28]
and easements within the Grand River Health
[1:12:31]
District campus Ordinance number 19 series of 2026.
[1:12:35]
First reading.
[1:12:37]
So mayor and council, with the lot line dissolution,
[1:12:40]
there are multiple easements
[1:12:41]
and rights of way that are no longer necessary to
[1:12:45]
function with this project.
[1:12:47]
When we do record the lot line dissolution,
[1:12:50]
new easements will be recorded with the plat.
[1:12:53]
That makes sense. And that we will work with the project
[1:13:03]
And Yeah. And we,
[1:13:04]
Its continuation of what we just did,
[1:13:06]
Right?
[1:13:07]
Yeah. And it's just cleaning it all up.
[1:13:07]
And we, we do have the applicant here if there's any
[1:13:09]
specific questions, I don't think they're gonna be able
[1:13:11]
to answer all those traffic questions. Right?
[1:13:13]
I Don't think so. But, but if you have any questions
[1:13:15]
about the project itself, you,
[1:13:19]
you do have an applicant here.
[1:13:20]
Kind of a continuous Yeah.
[1:13:23]
I'll wing it. It's not only screen,
[1:13:25]
but make a motion to approve the vacation of the right
[1:13:28]
of way and easements within ground.
[1:13:30]
Grand River Health District.
[1:13:32]
Campus ordinance number 19, series
[1:13:34]
of 2026 on the first reading
[1:13:39]
As presented and ordered, published by, by Chad.
[1:13:43]
I'm just making sure Alexis has it. I know you did.
[1:13:47]
I'm trying to help you. You
[1:13:48]
Still need a second? Sorry.
[1:13:49]
Second. Second. Oh, sorry.
[1:13:51]
It's okay. I was just trying to help.
[1:13:53]
We have a motion from Councillor Marsh
[1:13:55]
and a second from Councilor Grassley to approve the vacation
[1:13:57]
of right away and easements within the
[1:13:59]
Grand River Health District campus.
[1:14:01]
It's pretty official. Ordinance number 19 series
[1:14:03]
of 2026 on first reading as presented
[1:14:06]
and ordered, published as required
[1:14:07]
by Charter Councillor Grassley.
[1:14:09]
Yes. Councillor Bhu. Yes. Mayor Hostettler. Yes.
[1:14:12]
Councillor Clancy. Yes. Councillor Roberts. Yes.
[1:14:15]
Councillor Marsh. Yes. Councillor Rice.
[1:14:19]
I recused. Okay.
[1:14:22]
Thank you. Sorry, I didn't mean No, you're
[1:14:27]
Okay.
[1:14:28]
The gr Grand River's done for now. All right.
[1:14:32]
But you will, we'll keep second reading Yep.
[1:14:35]
On, on the regular agenda on both those
[1:14:38]
ordinances 'cause they go together.
[1:14:39]
Okay. For your next meeting
[1:14:41]
and we'll get, we worked really hard on have Craig come
[1:14:45]
and answer questions. Yep. Okay.
[1:14:48]
Okay. Item nine B,
[1:14:51]
consider relocating expired city water tap associated
[1:14:54]
with booms place water tank.
[1:15:00]
Good evening, mayor. Counsel.
[1:15:01]
So tonight we have an agreement that was entered into
[1:15:06]
by the city in 2002 that allocated
[1:15:11]
a number of easements for the water tank up at Boom's Place
[1:15:17]
in exchange for those easements.
[1:15:19]
The city granted the owner for water taps.
[1:15:25]
Three of those water taps have been utilized to date.
[1:15:29]
One had been expired
[1:15:31]
as there was a time limit set on the water tap tap usage.
[1:15:37]
And we have an applicant who has requested
[1:15:39]
that the fourth water tap be reinstated for use
[1:15:44]
in the county at the property.
[1:15:50]
I'm here.
[1:15:54]
Hi. My wife and I, our Fran and Lisa Oroz,
[1:15:58]
and we had just bought this property from Chuck Karen
[1:16:00]
and Chuck was trying to get this water tap reinstated so
[1:16:05]
that we could have water to the property from the city.
[1:16:09]
And Chuck got sick.
[1:16:11]
And so we have taken this on from him.
[1:16:15]
He's one of my customers and he's a good friend.
[1:16:17]
And so I told him I would take this on
[1:16:19]
and see if you guys would be willing to reinstate that tap
[1:16:22]
so that we can start to build up there for a garage
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that we want to build in a house for our kids.
[1:16:31]
But the the, the water tap itself isn't in question.
[1:16:34]
It's whether they're being charged
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for the water tap, right? Yep.
[1:16:37]
Yeah, yeah.
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We have, we have the availability of water up there.
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What's the water tank easement like?
[1:16:48]
What's that part of this?
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I'm, I'm not sure that I understand that.
[1:16:51]
The northeast tank, correct? Yeah.
[1:16:53]
There's a water tank up there.
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There is. And we're not, not disrupting that easement
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that we got that put in place.
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Yeah. In exchange for this water tap.
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Yep. There, yeah, there's there all
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of the infrastructure exists.
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Currently we're using the easements that we created back,
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you know, 20 some years ago.
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And so this is a, basically, at that time it was stated,
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I think it was 15 years is what they had from the time of
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recordation of the, of the water tap availability notice.
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So that was April 10th, 2003
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and then that established April 6th, 2018
[1:17:37]
as the expiration date for any non-used
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tap connections at that time.
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And so we've, like I said, we have three folks
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that have pulled those taps from that agreement.
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And then we had the fourth, that expired after 2018.
[1:17:53]
So we, we got easements in a water tank site from Robin,
[1:17:56]
Fritz, Lynn, and part of the compensation was water taps.
[1:18:00]
'cause I think she had envisioned subdivision and,
[1:18:04]
but there was a, a terminate, a drop dead date
[1:18:07]
to use them just so things don't go on forever.
[1:18:08]
Yeah. And so that was
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20 and they had expired.
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Yeah. 2018 And the property's changed
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hands. Three three
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Of them have been used. So
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There's only Right, yeah.
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One, this is the one has expired.
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Is there a new expiration date built into this
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or is it just open-ended?
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Nope. The there basically what's what,
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Like this is 28 Before you is a consideration of,
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of an amendment if you want to.
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And if that is the case,
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then we would establish what that looks like.
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So I don't know. I was just asking the question
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if there was a new, so
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If we don't do anything, do they have to pay
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for the water temp if they want to get one later?
[1:18:44]
Yeah. And that's the 10,000
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2 86.
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It's a, it's one and a half times the in city rate.
[1:18:51]
Okay. Yeah. The agreement expired.
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They're trying to bring it back kind of, no.
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Yeah, but they had an expiration date
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to avoid it not being used.
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That's all I'm asking is do we put another
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expiration date on it for any?
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That depends if You, that's, yeah.
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We, if you guys approve this, we will,
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you'll have the water tap paid.
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And like I said, Chuck had bought this when he was married.
[1:19:15]
He got divorced and we,
[1:19:18]
We'll, we'll, we'll give you water. Okay.
[1:19:21]
Yeah. You're not losing the water tap.
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It's whether you have to pay for it or not. I'm happy to.
[1:19:24]
Those were okay. Okay then we then we don't even have,
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There's Not Oh yeah, there's, I mean
[1:19:29]
I I I'm just wondering,
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there was an expiration date to begin with. The reason
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Was, and it was 2018.
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And if you re reli, I mean,
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I mean I actually wrote this. No,
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No, I'm Not, I'm just looking at my handwriting on it.
[1:19:41]
I You have to put it, you have to. Yeah.
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I see your concern, sir. You need water for the house.
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You can have water for the house. We were one.
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I think the hard thing is, is well this thing's expired
[1:19:50]
and you're like, can I still have a free water
[1:19:52]
tap? No, I'm not
[1:19:53]
Looking for that.
[1:19:54]
Oh my gosh. Thought was so geez.
[1:19:58]
Yeah, yeah. No problem.
[1:20:00]
You can apply to the, to city hall
[1:20:01]
and get, it would be nice if you wanted to get I, well I,
[1:20:05]
it was a very tough thing to do for these, these guys.
[1:20:07]
'cause like, well it expired, right?
[1:20:08]
It been eight years and you do have to have a,
[1:20:11]
as the lawyer, it's like, well, it's their decision,
[1:20:13]
but I'm like, it had an expiration for a reason. Is there a
[1:20:17]
Great, is there a reason we couldn't
[1:20:19]
compromise on something like this?
[1:20:22]
I you'd be giving money away.
[1:20:24]
They do part, like I would,
[1:20:25]
if it was Robin, Fritz, Lynn still.
[1:20:29]
I would, and actually she, I I as the lawyer
[1:20:32]
who wrote the expiration,
[1:20:34]
you should have come in in a couple weeks before it expired
[1:20:37]
and, and then and asked for can we extend it then
[1:20:40]
and give my circumstantial evidence on why?
[1:20:42]
And this one's just kind of tough.
[1:20:45]
It's like if it's totally new
[1:20:46]
Owner.
[1:20:47]
Yeah, yeah. If anyone just came in
[1:20:48]
and asked you for something, right. Like that's, and it
[1:20:50]
Doesn't sound like it was hell. Which
[1:20:51]
Is great.
[1:20:53]
So what, what are you, what are you speaking
[1:20:54]
of, Scott? You're saying
[1:20:55]
Like giving compensation tough off.
[1:20:57]
So I mean they, they,
[1:20:59]
they did what they said they were doing.
[1:21:00]
They gave you the easements, everything
[1:21:02]
But cheese.
[1:21:03]
But, but it's,
[1:21:04]
but we're like three property owners away from that now.
[1:21:07]
But we still have the easement in place.
[1:21:08]
Yeah. Yeah. The easements
[1:21:09]
still have, we're all good there. So
[1:21:10]
What are, what are you compromising?
[1:21:12]
My, my thought would be work with them a little bit
[1:21:16]
and say, have 'em pay what the normal city tap would be.
[1:21:19]
That is the normal city town.
[1:21:23]
They're out, they're outta city. Oh.
[1:21:25]
Like, like, and
[1:21:27]
I, I get if you go that direction, I just want some reason
[1:21:29]
so that not everyone just comes and asks.
[1:21:32]
I just curious. I just feel like paying
[1:21:34]
For it. I was just curious.
[1:21:35]
Yeah, no, I I I, I appreciate good about this generosity,
[1:21:38]
but I just don't want precedent that I can't. Yeah, yeah.
[1:21:41]
It's true. No, I understand. We still need to move
[1:21:42]
to deny at this point.
[1:21:44]
You, I think you just don't take any action.
[1:21:47]
Take any It is, it is what it is. Okay.
[1:21:50]
And can you help? And you can still get water,
[1:21:52]
the gentleman understand whether he should do contact
[1:21:54]
Patrick or the water or to get his water set up.
[1:21:57]
Oh, be
[1:21:59]
In contact with you.
[1:22:00]
Yep. I'm good with that. Like I said,
[1:22:01]
You just wanted to make sure you got water right.
[1:22:03]
Exactly. Like I said, Chuck didn't realize
[1:22:05]
that there was an expiration or he forgot.
[1:22:08]
I don't know which. But yeah,
[1:22:09]
That's just The expiration was for the free water tap
[1:22:13]
for the, not for the water tap itself.
[1:22:15]
I'm happy to, we're happy to pay for it.
[1:22:16]
Just so we got water to the lot.
[1:22:18]
No water. Totally Fine.
[1:22:21]
No action taken. That was easy.
[1:22:23]
Thank you. Thank you. Thanks guys.
[1:22:24]
Thanks for coming in. Thanks for your honesty.
[1:22:28]
We've had a complicated item nine C orders.
[1:22:32]
Consider amending article three of chapter four
[1:22:35]
of the rifle municipal code to amend procedural standards.
[1:22:39]
Ordinance number 17 series
[1:22:41]
of 2026 on first reading Iris.
[1:22:50]
Good evening mayor and counsel. This evening.
[1:22:53]
I am presenting to you the request
[1:22:55]
to amend the procurement standards.
[1:22:58]
The city recently,
[1:22:59]
the city last time the city updated its procurement code
[1:23:02]
was in 2022.
[1:23:04]
And during that procurement update,
[1:23:07]
they removed the comparative pricing.
[1:23:09]
After reviewing our current standards
[1:23:12]
and how we have been purchasing, we have taken a look
[1:23:17]
and we are requesting that we
[1:23:19]
increase our existing procurement threshold
[1:23:21]
and add back the comparative pricing.
[1:23:24]
We are recommending the increase so that we are able
[1:23:27]
to do comparative pricing
[1:23:28]
that will provide more efficiency purchasing methods
[1:23:32]
with lower dollar pri, lower dollar purchases.
[1:23:35]
And we'll still ensure competitive pricing.
[1:23:38]
This was brought to you guys in two workshops
[1:23:40]
and if you guys have any questions, please let me know.
[1:23:44]
I just have one structure.
[1:23:46]
What does a competitive pricing do?
[1:23:49]
How do we, if the someone bid say 80,000 on a hundred
[1:23:53]
thousand dollars project, why does it matter
[1:23:56]
what the competitive pricing is to
[1:23:58]
The other?
[1:23:59]
So competitive pricing will strictly be on purchasing
[1:24:01]
of items not a bid.
[1:24:03]
So in reference to like a service of like design services
[1:24:06]
or engineering services or construction,
[1:24:08]
that will still follow the bid process.
[1:24:11]
This is more for small items, might be equipment,
[1:24:13]
may be vehicles, materials
[1:24:17]
that are the kind of things that we're looking at.
[1:24:20]
So instead of going the cooperative purchase route A,
[1:24:25]
what we may do is we'll take a look
[1:24:27]
and see what our local vendors
[1:24:30]
Are.
[1:24:31]
So instead of taking the state, so the example, instead
[1:24:33]
of taking a state bid on a a vehicle
[1:24:36]
and explorer, we'll just say you're gonna go look at
[1:24:39]
Columbine Ford and Glenwood Ford
[1:24:41]
and whoever the one is injunction.
[1:24:43]
You're gonna look at that along with that. Okay.
[1:24:45]
Correct. And then they have the opportunity.
[1:24:47]
And then a good example also would be
[1:24:49]
what we went through with our hvac.
[1:24:51]
We didn't have that much response.
[1:24:53]
So, and it's also a smaller project.
[1:24:55]
There's are mainly under a hundred thousand.
[1:24:57]
So we would go to the two, three local
[1:25:01]
businesses within the area, ask them for quotes,
[1:25:04]
do the review, look at our procedures,
[1:25:06]
and then present it makes
[1:25:08]
Sense.
[1:25:09]
And not require the bond until it's,
[1:25:11]
till they have been awarded the contract.
[1:25:12]
So yeah, doing it that way.
[1:25:14]
They would be no bid bond,
[1:25:16]
but there would still be a performance
[1:25:17]
bond and payment bond,
[1:25:19]
Which is a lot easier for smaller contractors.
[1:25:21]
Yes, yes. Know all about that.
[1:25:26]
I think this is great. This is
[1:25:27]
best practices in purchasing.
[1:25:29]
This is the way it should go.
[1:25:30]
And we had it and then we lost it.
[1:25:32]
I dunno why we got now it's back.
[1:25:33]
This is the way it, it works. It's shocking. Yes. Yes.
[1:25:39]
And mostly the, a lot of this is also just updating our,
[1:25:44]
the amounts of so that you guys don't have to come check in
[1:25:47]
with us for a $20,000 purchase that Patrick can Correct.
[1:25:51]
So yes, this will increase the city manager's approval
[1:25:55]
from currently 25,000 to 90,000.
[1:25:58]
I think that's a good idea too.
[1:26:00]
Which sounds like a lot, but it's,
[1:26:02]
It's very much in line with today's it's anymore.
[1:26:05]
Yeah. Yep.
[1:26:07]
And this can be updated in the future. Yep. Hog wild.
[1:26:11]
Yes, exactly. And we still have our audit.
[1:26:15]
Yes. And your budget and Yep, yep, yep.
[1:26:19]
And it's still a small community,
[1:26:21]
Easier efficiencies, right? Yeah. Yeah.
[1:26:23]
We'll still follow the process.
[1:26:27]
I move to approve amendment of article three
[1:26:30]
of chapter four of the rifle municipal code
[1:26:32]
to amend procurement standard
[1:26:34]
standards ordinance number 17 series of 2026
[1:26:38]
on first reading and ordered publish as required by charter.
[1:26:42]
I'll second
[1:26:44]
We have a motion from Councillor Grassley
[1:26:46]
and a second from Councillor Roberts to approve amendment
[1:26:49]
of article three of chapter four of the rifle municipal code
[1:26:52]
to amend procurement standards.
[1:26:54]
Ordinance number 17 series of 2026 on first reading
[1:26:57]
and ordered, published as required
[1:26:59]
by Charter Councillor Roberts.
[1:27:01]
Yes. Councillor Marsh. Yes. Councillor Bool. Yes.
[1:27:04]
Councillor Rice. Yes. Councillor Grassley. Yes.
[1:27:06]
Mayor Hostettler. Yes. Councillor Clancy. Yes.
[1:27:09]
Thank you. And one more item here.
[1:27:13]
Item nine D, consider awarding contract
[1:27:16]
for fall cleanup trucking services.
[1:27:18]
So every year for our fall cleanup, we hire a outside
[1:27:23]
contractor to bring in to do all of our hauling
[1:27:26]
of all the material that is collected.
[1:27:29]
According to our procurement process, we posted a request
[1:27:32]
for bid for three years of trucking services,
[1:27:35]
which was posted in the, on the city website
[1:27:38]
and on July 28th.
[1:27:39]
And the citizen telegraph a mandatory pre-bid
[1:27:44]
withheld at city o and m with only one vendor in attendance.
[1:27:48]
The bid is structured to award the contract to the lowest,
[1:27:53]
lowest price qualified bidder.
[1:27:55]
However, because there was only one bid,
[1:27:58]
we are meeting those standards.
[1:28:00]
The bid that we received is for an hourly.
[1:28:03]
We requested that they gave us a bid for hourly.
[1:28:06]
Hourly for 20 26, 20 27 and 2028.
[1:28:10]
The totals that you're seeing are 24,000,
[1:28:13]
twenty four thousand eight hundred twenty five thousand six hundred.
[1:28:16]
This is the same vendor that we used last year.
[1:28:19]
And at the end of the event they only used 85 hours,
[1:28:22]
which was a total of 12,397.
[1:28:25]
So it's, we were requesting that maximum amount from them so
[1:28:29]
that if worst case scenario they was a situation
[1:28:34]
where we needed those hours, they were available,
[1:28:36]
but we foresee
[1:28:38]
that it would be under the $24,000 match or request.
[1:28:43]
We did have some inquiries from brokers,
[1:28:46]
however, we did advise them that due to the safety aspects
[1:28:49]
of the operation, we only wanted prime contract holders
[1:28:53]
to attend the pre-bid.
[1:28:57]
Okay. I don't remember this ever coming to us before, you
[1:29:00]
Know, so Historically and,
[1:29:02]
and would it, would it come to us next year
[1:29:04]
or in three years because now we are under 80,000.
[1:29:08]
No, it, It would not come to you.
[1:29:10]
This is coming because there is a number in this
[1:29:13]
that goes over 25,000. Oh
[1:29:15]
Okay. Right now,
[1:29:15]
Because there is a year One number for one
[1:29:18]
Year ordinance doesn't take effect for 10 more days.
[1:29:20]
Got it. After second reading.
[1:29:22]
Yeah, after second reading. So we've never seen it
[1:29:25]
before because it, this is the first time one
[1:29:27]
of the years went over 25,000.
[1:29:28]
Yep. So last year we bid it out and I think it was 24
[1:29:31]
Grand, right? Yeah. It
[1:29:32]
Was only for one year was last year.
[1:29:33]
The first year we outsourced it. Oh.
[1:29:36]
'cause so we didn't, we used to,
[1:29:38]
We reason why we actually bid it last year is
[1:29:41]
'cause it went over the $10,000 mark,
[1:29:42]
which is the directors.
[1:29:44]
Yeah. Years prior it has been the same vendor
[1:29:48]
and it's just been in that sweet spot.
[1:29:51]
Yeah. And we don't use staff anymore. Right. We
[1:29:54]
Do use staff for all the Cleanup
[1:29:55]
and so we still do but not
[1:29:56]
For the truck.
[1:29:57]
They just haul. They just
[1:29:58]
Haul.
[1:29:59]
Oh, okay. That's where I was dump. Wow. That's crazy.
[1:30:03]
It's a big lift by staff. They're just
[1:30:05]
Yeah, it is.
[1:30:06]
That's why I was like, yeah,
[1:30:07]
we should probably outsource this a big lift
[1:30:08]
as long. But they would
[1:30:10]
Love that.
[1:30:11]
It'd be a lot more than that if they had to do everything.
[1:30:12]
We tried to rope, we tried to do it as part of our trash
[1:30:16]
removal and put it in the bid,
[1:30:19]
but none of the folks
[1:30:21]
who applied wanted to said they would do
[1:30:23]
It. Yeah.
[1:30:24]
Well that was a chicken
[1:30:27]
different Jonathan's.
[1:30:31]
I am, I move to approve the three year agreement
[1:30:35]
with DIT investments for 20 26, 20 27
[1:30:39]
and 2028 for an amount not to exceed $74,400.
[1:30:44]
I'll second that with the amendment
[1:30:46]
that it's DTT, is that correct?
[1:30:49]
DIT. What did I say? It's blurry.
[1:30:56]
I got it. Now
[1:30:58]
We have a motion from Councillor Rice
[1:31:00]
and a second from Councillor Marsh
[1:31:01]
to approve a three year agreement with DTT investments
[1:31:05]
for 20 26, 20 27
[1:31:06]
and 2028 for an amount not to exceed $74,400.
[1:31:11]
Councillor Clancy.
[1:31:12]
Yes. Councillor Marsh. Yes. Councilor Roberts. Yes.
[1:31:15]
Councillor Rice. Yes. Mayor Hostettler. Yes.
[1:31:18]
Councillor Grassley. Yes. Councillor Ol. Yes. Thank you.
[1:31:23]
All right. Administrative reports report from city
[1:31:27]
manager Patrick.
[1:31:28]
Thank you Mayor. A few more things.
[1:31:31]
One on here was the CPW letter submittal,
[1:31:34]
but Iris clarified that in workshop.
[1:31:36]
So good news, we were accepted to fully apply for the grant
[1:31:40]
for the South Rifle project.
[1:31:42]
That's great. Alright.
[1:31:44]
The update on projects is,
[1:31:48]
so the third in park project is gonna be
[1:31:50]
the first one to be paved.
[1:31:52]
It's looking like, should be done middle of September.
[1:31:55]
And then everything else is on
[1:31:57]
pace for the end of September.
[1:31:59]
Both Grand Mason and White River.
[1:32:01]
So appreciate folks patience as we move through that
[1:32:04]
fall cleanup is coming up really important
[1:32:08]
that folks are careful around our staff.
[1:32:12]
There's a lot of staff walking around, lots
[1:32:14]
of trucks backing up, all that sort of stuff
[1:32:17]
Starts on September 20th, east of Railroad Avenue
[1:32:21]
and then west of Railroad is September 27th.
[1:32:26]
So really great service
[1:32:28]
that the city provide and provides this year.
[1:32:30]
We're also doing a tire pickup.
[1:32:33]
Not pick up, you have to drop 'em off,
[1:32:35]
but you will have a tire drop off available for folks.
[1:32:40]
Good idea. We're in the city of rifle.
[1:32:42]
We don't want any county people coming in with their tires.
[1:32:45]
So We'll be checking IDs. Make
[1:32:48]
Sure you are a rifle resident.
[1:32:50]
Limited to eight tires for the drop off.
[1:32:52]
Yeah, but your ID still says rifle even if you're in town.
[1:32:57]
I know the streets address is the drop off at the OM
[1:33:00]
Facility. It is correct. Okay.
[1:33:02]
Does that work? Did they put New tires on my car
[1:33:04]
Is, yeah.
[1:33:05]
No. The only one we take the said I didn't.
[1:33:10]
Only other thing. CML dinner. Just a reminder for you all.
[1:33:14]
September 10th at 5:00 PM So that will be
[1:33:17]
before our next meeting up at the golf course
[1:33:20]
Next Thursday, right?
[1:33:22]
Yes.
[1:33:23]
Yep. And that's all that I have.
[1:33:25]
Great. That was your last chance to impress us before you
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After some Of the bumps here.
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Alexis, nothing for me. Jim, thank you.
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Nothing Zach, nothing for meeting. Thanks. Anything gear?
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Nope. Iris nothing for me. It's chief. Nothing.
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No sir. Wow. You don't even have
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to stand up, but that's very polite.
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All right. I think we're back over here Jonathan.
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I don't think I have anything either.
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Holy, we do have more work to do tonight,
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so I know. I'm trying.
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I can't even think, I don't think I have anything
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'cause I can't remember what it is.
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So. Oh, we did have the A GNC meeting for
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ECI Can't do all our letters.
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And we had a meeting for our, at the
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New Castle Library that went really well.
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That's about all I can remember. Sorry.
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Anything I have, it's September 2nd official start
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to hunting season for those
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who celebrate this long, long season.
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But welcome hunters. There's big community here
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that does come from all over to spend time in,
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in rifle and beyond.
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So welcome and good luck to everybody.
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Nothing from me. Nothing from me.
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I will say that a lot of staff and council went down and,
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and toward the B site down in
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Grand Junction, a business incubator.
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And it's an amazing place.
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And we're talking about having eventual some kind
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of a partnership with them to try
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to get some economic development here
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and some small business startups.
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So that's an exciting new development.
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And with that, do I close the regular meeting?
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No, you're gonna move to go into executives.
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I moved to go into executive session
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for discussion of personal matter under CRS section 24 dash
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six dash 4 0 2 2 F.
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And not involving any specific employee
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employees have requested discussion
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of the matter to open session.
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Any member of this body
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or any elected official, the appointment of any person
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to fill an office of this body or an elected official
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or personal policies that do not require the discussion
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of matters personal to particular employees.
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So now we need a second. Second. Second. Yep. Okay.
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And you don't need to read it all. Alexis, you
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Just a motion?
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Yeah, yeah. We have a motion from
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Mayor Clint Hoss settler
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and a second from Scott Marsh
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to move into the executive session.
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And we need a roll call.
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Council Clancy? Yes. Councilor Marsh? Yes.
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Councilor Roberts. Yes. Councillor Rice? Yes.
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Mayor Hostettler? Yes. Councilor Grassley? Yes.
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Councillor BH Hall?
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No, because they got skipped in the
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meeting for my comments.
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Okay. Yes, I did get skipped, but yes.
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Oh, Karen just skipped right over you.
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Karen doesn't care. I know you didn't say anything.
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I didn't have a chance. You talking.
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Do you wanna say your comments before we go?
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No, we're not out yet. We're not out yet. Not now.
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I have to wait and then the, I have to wait.
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The meeting will be adjourned
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after the executive session with no decisions made.
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So now you're just floating on. We won't, decisions made.
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Don't say stuff like that. But we
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won't return either, right?
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We don't. You're not returning here.
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Yes, we You'll be aduring in there,
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but you're still in an active meeting
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going into executive session.
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But you can have a restroom break. Are we
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Off.