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[0:21] » arm.

[0:24] Oh, yeah.

[0:33] Recording in progress.

[0:50] » Do that again.

[0:55] Also order the regular meeting of the Rioell City Council. Roll call, please.

[0:59] » Mayor Gar >> here.

[1:01] » Mayor Pro Carter >> here.

[1:03] » Council member Woodall >> here.

[1:04] » Council member or >> excused.

[1:06] » Council member Wilson >> here.

[1:08] » Please stand for the pledge of allegiance.

[1:12] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[1:17] republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible and justice for

[1:23] all. Public presentations.

[1:30] This is the time for persons who wish to address the council on any matter not on

[1:33] this agenda and over which the council has jurisdiction. As such, a dialogue

[1:37] with the council or staff is not allowed under the Ralph Brown Act. Items

[1:42] requiring council actions not listed on this agenda may be placed on the next

[1:46] regular agenda for consideration if the council directs unless a finding is made

[1:51] by at least twothirds of the council that the item came up after the agenda

[1:55] was posted and is of an urgency nature requiring immediate action. Please limit

[2:00] comments to a maximum of three minutes. >> Welcome. Anyone? Any

[2:06] got no pages. I wonder

[2:11] else. Okay. Well, then we will close public presentations and move on to the

[2:15] consent calendar. Is there a council member who would like to remove an item

[2:19] from the consent calendar? >> I don't think so.

[2:23] » No. No. >> No. Let me let me look one.

[2:26] » Okay. I know. I looked at it.

[2:35] Okay. >> Then um no one member from the public

[2:40] emails. I ask for a motion to approve the consent calendar.

[2:45] » I move to approve the consent calendar. >> We have a motion. Is there a second?

[2:48] » A second. >> Have a motion and a second. Motion

[2:51] carries. 4 Z. We will move on to manager of staff

[2:58] communications and report city manager page 39 in our packets.

[3:03] Uh thank you mayor Garn, members of the council. So um staff has submitted the

[3:10] uh opportunity zone 2.0 a submission which was due yesterday for

[3:17] um the current opportunity zone program which would potentially if this census

[3:22] tracked area would be designated could provide additional incentives for uh for

[3:28] investment in this uh in this area. The census tract again uh stretches from uh

[3:33] the Vanden River uh south to Redway includes both Riodell and Scotia.

[3:40] Um the uh local Girl Scout troop has also made a $450 donation for a dog

[3:46] waste bag station. And so that will be uh installed shortly.

[3:52] And uh Mayor Barnes and Council Member Woodall and volunteers planted flowers

[3:56] at Blueest Star Memorial Park. So next time you're over there, take a look.

[4:01] They're pretty good looking. >> Really nice. Um

[4:06] and then uh we also have street sweeping that is scheduled for this uh Friday uh

[4:11] the 24th. Want to just ask people to not park particularly on Wildwood Avenue.

[4:16] Try to stay off of Wildwood Avenue um while we do that. Um and then paving

[4:21] currently going on on uh uh Davis Street for the water capital

[4:27] improvement project. I don't know if that's going to be finished by by

[4:30] Friday, but uh it'll be close. Um and then uh our uh painter street project uh

[4:39] sewer line upsize is well underway and kind of the construction crew has

[4:44] covered the most difficult hurdle which is right next to the plant. So hopefully

[4:49] it's smooth sailing here through here and uh the project will be completed uh

[4:55] before the uh winter rains. Uh, with that, I'm happy to answer any questions

[5:00] that the council may have or of staff. >> Thank you, city manager. Mayor,

[5:06] » uh, no questions. Um, it looks like we did pretty well on animal control this

[5:10] period. Uh, six related animal calls and zero dogs transported to Fortuna. Did

[5:16] you have any cats come into the PD? >> Yes. All right. Um, that's it. Just

[5:23] thank you everyone. >> Thank you, Council Member Wilson. Yes.

[5:27] Uh I just have the only thing I have is maybe it's for Randy or for you. Uh

[5:33] there's a somebody texted me a picture of a hole in the sidewalk over by

[5:39] Grunman's some little bit past it. There's a looks like by a

[5:44] » it's a P& >> P is broken. There's a somebody that can

[5:48] step in it. >> There's a cone on it currently and we've

[5:50] contacted PG to come out fix it. That's why I told him I'd tell you that

[5:55] and I did. Other than that, I have no other.

[5:58] » Thank you, Council Member Woodall. >> No, just thanks to public works. They've

[6:03] been out. They're making the main street look really nice. They've really been

[6:06] hard at work. Thank you. We're getting ready for Wildwood Day and you guys are

[6:10] rocking it. Um I wanted to um ask question. Um, city manager, is there can

[6:17] we put out or should we put out cones? Like, you know, some cities they put out

[6:22] cones along to keep people from parking. I don't know if we have cones that do

[6:27] that. >> Yeah, usually the guys uh the public

[6:29] works crew will uh post a couple pieces of paper on some cones and set them out

[6:34] along the road >> Thursday or on Thursday.

[6:36] » Yeah, it's never 100% but we usually get pretty good pretty close to most.

[6:42] » Thank you. Thank you. to all of you guys for making the city look good and thank

[6:48] you for Rosa and Jessica for running it. I mean, not that you two aren't doing

[6:52] your stuff. Thank you too. Okay, now we will move on to

[7:02] special presentations. Senior home repair program contract renewal fiscal

[7:07] year 2627 page 42 in our packets manager. And I'll go ahead and turn this

[7:13] over to Mr. Travis Samour. >> Thank you, city manager. Good evening,

[7:18] Mayor Garn, members of the council. This is the annual renewal of our senior home

[7:23] repair program agreement with the Humbult Senior Resource Center. Tonight

[7:27] we have Rachel Sign with us. She is Humble Senior Resource Center's director

[7:31] of operations and she's here tonight and she can answer any questions about the

[7:35] program itself. The program provides minor home repairs to income eligible

[7:40] residents 60 and older capped at $300 per household. Last year, this program

[7:46] served four RIDEL households, but the total cost to the city was $841

[7:53] against a $2,500 authorization. So about a third of what was available.

[7:58] Across both years of the program, we've served 10 households for a combined

[8:03] $1,938.

[8:06] Humble Senior Resource Center proposed reducing their own request from $2500 to

[8:11] $1,500 based on prior year trends and staff agrees a recommended approval of

[8:16] $1,500. The amount is a ceiling. It's not a

[8:20] commitment and they're only paid for work performed and anything unused

[8:23] lasts. So, we're happy to take on questions about the numbers and Rachel

[8:28] can speak on the program itself if you guys have any further questions.

[8:31] » Thank you very much. Rachel, welcome. Thank you for coming out. Do you want to

[8:35] say anything or >> um Well, I'm terrified of speaking in

[8:39] front of people. >> Okay.

[8:42] » So, we have a question. >> SO, YEAH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'm

[8:45] happy to answer them. Um, I think, you know, we've seen not a lot of takers for

[8:53] this program in Riadel and I think one of the barriers that we see are people

[8:57] thinking that they don't qualify. Um, so we're going to try to market it a little

[9:02] bit different this year. Um, the the income qualification is actually pretty

[9:07] different. >> Thank you. I noticed that

[9:12] 60 and above I think [laughter] management

[9:17] but um yeah thank you though for even having this program available

[9:23] but it's a great program and I do think it could be because people don't realize

[9:28] the um eligibility requirements are as generous as they are. We've heard a lot

[9:32] of Well, there's no way.

[9:37] » Council member Will. >> No, mine was just about making sure it

[9:40] was marketed and promoted and I imagine Sarah wants it

[9:45] very closely with Sarah and that was my question.

[9:47] » Yeah, because I was reading about the there's probably a lot more people could

[9:51] take advantage of it if they knew. >> They're our number one referral.

[9:55] » Thank you. >> Thank you.

[9:58] » Um, no questions. I support this program. I think it's really great and

[10:01] yeah, as long as you're working with the resource center, that's that's a that's

[10:04] a key around here. Yeah, >> thank you.

[10:08] » Wilson, >> I really don't have much any uh

[10:10] question, but I appreciate the opportunity for the residents and it's

[10:15] probably the probably more would if we have I don't know if we put it in the

[10:20] newsletter that comes out. I don't know when that comes out, but somewhere that

[10:25] if more people knew about it, I'm sure they would.

[10:27] » Oh, the Chamber of Commerce newsletter. >> Huh? The Chamber of Commerce puts out a

[10:31] newsletter every month. Is that what you're talking about?

[10:33] » No, there's one at the city. >> Oh, it's direct.

[10:38] » Might as well. >> Other than that, I have

[10:43] » Thank you. Is there anyone in the member of the public, please? Allison. Um I

[10:49] wonder um [clears throat] deal with like so

[10:54] there is a $300 limit which really limits the amount of work and they're

[10:59] all safety related. Okay. So if you do have a broken window or a door or

[11:04] something that's not blocking or due to an earthquake we

[11:09] um in this situation. >> Okay. So Allison, now is this like

[11:18] you should have a side? >> I'm just trying to find out if it's like

[11:22] a long discussion or like >> I can give you my I'll give you my

[11:30] » Okay. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything but

[11:36] » okay then. Is there a mo and he has raised emails? Nope.

[11:41] » Then is there a motion uh to approve the renewal of the senior home repair

[11:47] program with Humble Senior Resources Center for the fiscal year 2627 and the

[11:52] amount not to exceed $1,500 to authorize the city manager to execute said

[11:57] agreement? >> Still moved.

[11:59] » Is there a second? Second. We have a motion and a second. Motion carries

[12:04] score zero.

[12:08] » And now we will move on to to

[12:14] » discussion and possible action

[12:18] receiving. Perfect. Okay. So, now we are moving on to receiving a presentation

[12:23] from the Redwood Coast Energy Authority on the authorities 2627 budget and rate

[12:29] recommendation and related direction to council member Wilson on voting for or

[12:33] against the authorities proposed budget and rate recommendations.

[12:41] Sorry to surprise you. >> Hello. Hi. How are you?

[12:46] » I'm good. Thank you. >> 48 in our packets.

[12:49] » Mayor Gardens, council members. Thank you for having me. My name is Beth

[12:52] Burks. I'm the executive director of the Redwood Coast Energy Authority. And

[12:56] thank you to Council Member Wilson for inviting us here today. I'm joined with

[13:00] Lori Bandini. She is our director of business planning and finance. So, we're

[13:04] going to tag peep this presentation a little bit. Um so just really general

[13:09] high level overview. Um Ron Coast Energy Authority is a joint powers agency which

[13:14] Trioell is a member. Um we have several energy efficiency programs that we run

[13:19] in addition to of course the community choice energy program which is what

[13:23] we're mainly here to talk about today. Um but I'll go over um go ahead next

[13:27] slide. Um, I wanted to go over kind of uh our board's budget process um that

[13:32] we've been engaged in, where we're at with it, and uh proposed rate change

[13:35] that we've been discussing. So, in May 2026, uh this year, we took uh

[13:41] priorities uh and cost-saving strategies to our board to get general direction on

[13:46] forming our CA's annual budget. Um so, we did that in May. Um we'll talk a

[13:51] little more about what priorities came out of that further in the presentation.

[13:54] Um and then in June, uh our board adopted the budget, uh with direction to

[14:00] set rates, uh less than 10% above PG&E rates and maintain a minimum of $26

[14:05] million in financial reserves. Um that's the minimum we need in financial

[14:10] reserves to avoid um creditor fees and things like that that we would start

[14:13] incurring if we have uh too few too too low of a number of reserves. Um, so then

[14:18] this Thursday, um, day after tomorrow, we'll be having a board meeting and, uh,

[14:23] we'll be coming back to our board to set that rate. And I'll give you a spoiler.

[14:27] We're recommending six six%. Um, but I think it's really important we have this

[14:31] chance to discuss what what we're talking about when it when we talk about

[14:34] a rate. Um, and that the rate that our board would adopt would come into effect

[14:40] on September 1st. Um, next slide, please. So the priorities our board set

[14:46] um for this next fiscal year was to remain steady in our environmental

[14:49] goals. So our CA in 2025 achieved a portfolio of 100% renewable and carbon-f

[14:55] free energy. Um this was something long in the making. Um and our board felt

[14:59] really strongly um that it was important to maintain that level of portfolio. um

[15:04] they were very interested in making sure we maintained our financial health to

[15:08] maintain um reserves to ensure organizational solveny and additionally

[15:13] uh long-term rate stabilization. Uh we're also looking at administering

[15:17] unprecedented uh amount of externally funded customer programs. So we have the

[15:22] Northern Rural Energy Network which we administer um for Humble County and

[15:26] beyond. Uh and that has um external funding we're bringing um to to the

[15:31] county that doesn't come from rateayer funds. Um and then we are also looking

[15:35] at uh vision setting and regional coordination. So with that we're really

[15:41] uh been asked uh to take a regional lead in the regional climate action plan and

[15:45] host that um that effort at RCA. Um our board stayed uh very interested in

[15:50] making sure that we we were doing that. Um and then we need to update our CA

[15:54] strategic plan um this coming year. Um, we're also optimizing our operations,

[15:58] strengthening our customer service, and make sure that our um our physical

[16:03] assets are as cost neutral as they can be. So, we maintain a charging network,

[16:07] a electric vehicle charging network throughout the county. Um, we want to

[16:10] make sure that we're not losing money on that and that it's as cost neutral as it

[16:13] can be. So, we'll be focusing on that um now that we have most of our stations

[16:17] installed. Next slide, please. So, in terms of the cost-saving strategies that

[16:22] our board considered, we looked at no cola increases for at least two years.

[16:26] We reduced part-time staff and froze four vacant positions. Um, we had, I

[16:32] don't know this has come up for any of you, but we had a unique issue with the

[16:35] 27th pay period, which happens about every 11 years. So, unlucky for us that

[16:40] this was our year, but um we uh took reductions in our salaries um to pay for

[16:45] that um rather than paying it out, which saved about a $200,000. We also reduced

[16:50] community choice energy funded rebates. These are ebike vouchers and electric

[16:54] vehicle rebates that we've traditionally given. Um we still have kept some core

[16:58] funding in the budget for that. It's really a popular program and important

[17:01] to our board members that we continue that. Um but we did reduce it slightly.

[17:05] Um we've reduced travel, training, education, and outreach budget budgets.

[17:09] Um we eliminated the consultant uh funding we wanted to set aside for the

[17:14] strategic plan update. We'll be doing that effort in house. And probably most

[17:17] importantly, um we're pursuing a prepay agreement which lowers the cost of our

[17:21] power um hopefully by about uh two million annually. Um so this is a um a

[17:27] bond type agreement that we're we're following or pursuing that would allow

[17:31] us to reduce the cost of power. >> Who are you prepaying?

[17:35] » Uh the prepaid it's it's um it's basically a bond issue. that difference

[17:40] between municipal financing and and um conventional financing that allow us to

[17:45] realize savings. So yeah, and uh hopefully that will be uh well it's a

[17:51] minimum of 8% of on the energy that we'll save minimum and it could be as

[17:56] high as 14%. So we're still kind of waiting um on the market to figure out

[17:59] exactly how much savings but um conservatively we're looking at two

[18:03] million. Next slide. Um, so I'm gonna have Lori come up and kind of walk us

[18:07] through the budget um before we kind of get into the discussion.

[18:13] » Hello. Welcome. >> Sure. Thank you. Lori Bandini, the

[18:16] director of business planning and finance for RCA. Um, so this is just

[18:20] looking at what our adopted budget was last fiscal year 202526.

[18:26] What um a mid-year amended budget looks like um because we had some pretty

[18:31] drastic changes midyear. and then what our um you know current fiscal year 2627

[18:38] budget is looking like. Um just to give some context around like why we are

[18:43] recommending that we raise electricity rates. Um so we're looking at a deficit

[18:47] a net income deficit of 5.6 million. Um a big part of our budget is these

[18:54] customer um usage and retail rates that we're bringing in so that we're looking

[18:58] at raising those revenues. And then a big part of our expense budget are the

[19:02] power costs. Right now, we're looking at power costs that exceed um what we would

[19:07] be bringing in at the retail rates that we're suggesting. So, even with a 6%

[19:12] increase that we are suggesting, we're still looking at a little bit of a

[19:14] deficit. Um, next slide. So, this just shows a breakout of the type of revenue

[19:20] we have at RCA. Um, as you can see, a majority is electricity sales from our

[19:25] customers. Um, about 71%, but we also have about 18 million of external

[19:30] funding that Beth spoke to. So, funding that's coming from the state um to

[19:35] implement energy efficiency programs both here in Humble County and other

[19:39] rural counties um in Northern California. Um we also are expecting

[19:43] some investment income and uh tax credits. We uh built and own and operate

[19:50] um the solar plus battery uh micro grid at the airport. You guys have ever seen

[19:55] that? Um and so we're realizing some tax credits associated [clears throat] with

[20:00] Next slide. And this is a breakout of our expenses.

[20:04] Um majority of our expenses who will sell power supply as you can see. Uh

[20:08] then we have a large chunk of budget that goes to our professional and

[20:11] program services. So that's consultant services that we have to contract out

[20:15] to. Um we also have a large pass through amount of budget that goes to our

[20:20] partners for the northern rural energy networks. Those are the other counties

[20:24] that are implementing programs. Um and then we have you know our personnel

[20:28] budget of course some uh incentives that go directly to customers. So about 6% of

[20:34] our budget are direct customer incentives and rebates. Um and then we

[20:38] have our you know facility facilities and operations communications and

[20:42] outreach non-operating costs. Um and those costs as well as personnel costs

[20:48] are where we were able to actually like kind of trim the budget and realize some

[20:52] savings. um a lot of the other costs are just not within our control.

[21:01] » Thank you. >> So when we look at what is influencing

[21:04] the rates, we have uh the most um most significant is the power costs and then

[21:09] there's RCA expenses which play a smaller role. Um, and then there's this

[21:14] power charging difference adjustment. And I want to spend a little time

[21:17] talking about this because this is really kind of the doozy that's um

[21:20] causing us to need to to raise rates this round. Um, so next slide, please.

[21:25] Um, the purpose of the power cost and difference adjustment is essentially

[21:28] it's a fee that's charged by PG&E to make up the difference in what they paid

[21:33] to procure power resources when we were all still part of PG& um territory. I

[21:39] mean we we are in the sense that we still get our electricity delivered by

[21:42] them but we were still receiving power um that they were procuring on our

[21:45] behalf. Uh so the difference in what they paid and the current market value

[21:50] next slide please becomes the PCIA. So PG is guaranteed to be made whole so

[21:55] that they would never lose money on power purchase power that they've

[21:59] purchased. We do not have the same benefit as a community choice energy. Um

[22:04] so that amount has fluctuated. um our customers for the most part left PG&

[22:10] about 10 years ago. Um so these are resources um that they are still

[22:15] customers say we procured these on your behalf more than 10 years ago um and

[22:19] you're still on the hook to pay for them. Uh and so next please. Um and and

[22:24] it has [clears throat] fluctuated over the years. Um unfortunately due to a new

[22:29] uh way that they've calculated the PCIA um this last year it went up at 232% for

[22:35] RCA customers. Um so for the typical RCA customer, it's equal to 51% of your

[22:40] generation charge. So um you know you'll see the the transmission um and

[22:46] distribution charges and then you'll see the generation charges. So PCIA is a fee

[22:50] um that gets tacked onto that generation charge and it's about 51% of the total.

[22:55] Now if RCA um without changing our rates at all, if we did not have to pay that

[23:00] PCIA um our rates would be 31% lower than PG& rates. Um but we do consider

[23:06] you know for the sake of our community like we think about it as an all-in

[23:09] rate, right? We don't want our community paying more and typically we've always

[23:12] offered a discount. So, um I think that the most it was 3% discount from PG&E.

[23:18] Most recently we've been at half a percent discount. Um but with this PCIA

[23:22] shift going up so high um it's just not possible to um offer that dis that

[23:27] historic discount and recoup our costs. Next slide. So what we're showing here

[23:33] is um kind of how this breaks down into the typical power bill would be um and

[23:39] uh so we took the rate that most you know the the far majority of residential

[23:44] customers are on the CTC rate um and looked at what a typical average bill

[23:48] would be. Um so you can see on um on the left here it's you know what PTE charged

[23:54] in 2025 which was rates that were quite higher than they are today. Um and then

[23:59] RCA matched that um you know with just a a half percent discount in 2025. Um so

[24:05] just to kind of orient ourselves here, the blue is the delivery rate um which

[24:10] has gone up. That's the trans the distribution transmission um those

[24:14] charges that PG charges every customer. Uh the green area is our generation rate

[24:18] and that's the piece that we're talking about in terms of increasing. Um it

[24:23] doesn't affect the o it doesn't it's not a percent of the overall bill. It's a

[24:27] percent of the generation. So it's a percent of that. Um and then and then

[24:32] sort of that pinkish color is the PCIA charge. So um next slide please. So you

[24:37] can see if we look at a 6% increase, it means that our charges plus the PCIA

[24:44] would be 6% higher than what a bundle customer, someone who isn't part of the

[24:49] community choice energy program what they would pay. Um the total bill

[24:53] results in about 1.6% 6% greater than a typical PG& bill. So um just I want to

[25:00] be really clear on that because it can feel really scary to talk about overall

[25:03] bill if we were saying that was going up by 6%. It's a much different impact than

[25:06] what we're talking about. So it is just a percentage of the generation that

[25:10] we're talking about. So um next slide. Uh so we wanted to compare it to 2025

[25:17] when the rates were quite high. They came down at the beginning of 2026. Um,

[25:22] and so if we look at that right now, the average customer is paying about $8 less

[25:28] uh in generation than they were um in 2025. And with the 6% rate increase,

[25:33] they would um still be paying less than they paid in 2025 um but more more than

[25:39] current. Next slide. Uh so the overall take-home message um for this 6%

[25:45] increase is on the average customer bill um we'd be looking at an additional

[25:50] $2.33 a month um to cover that 6% charge. Um just to give you that context

[25:56] of what it would mean um you know again for an average customer on the typical

[26:00] rate. Um so uh that um that is uh the proposal we'll be making to the board uh

[26:09] this Thursday for that 6% increase and that does leave us um at that reserve

[26:14] target that we were going for. Um so it works in that sense. Let's next slide.

[26:21] So our next steps um would be for our CA board to finalize the rate at our

[26:26] meeting on Thursday. um rates would become effective in September and then

[26:30] we'll continue to monitor the rates on a quarterly basis and make adjustments up

[26:34] to the 9.5% cap the board recommended that we stay under. Um and that's just

[26:39] to make sure we can maintain those minimum level preserves consistent with

[26:42] the recommendation. And then the next step or next slide. Um so you know I do

[26:48] want to mention that we offer a lot of services for energy efficiency and so we

[26:52] have constituents or or community members that are concerned about their

[26:55] bill and this change. Um, please encourage them to call our CA or visit

[27:00] our website. Um, we have customer service representatives are all local

[27:03] people, local locally employed folks. They'll answer the phone. Real humans

[27:07] answer our phone. Um, they will be happy to review a customer's rate, make sure

[27:11] they're on the best rate for the type of energy and the time of use that they use

[27:14] energy. Um, sometimes there can be savings just in that alone, just by

[27:18] changing the rate guidelines. Um, you can request a free home energy

[27:21] assessment where they'll get on the phone with you and walk through every

[27:24] appliance in your home and think about low and no cost ways that you could

[27:28] conserve energy. Um, and then you can request a free energy kit to help you

[27:32] implement some of those low and no cost ways. Um, and then there's a rebate

[27:35] catalog that you can find online that would uh, um, support energy efficiency

[27:40] upgrades for many appliances that people might be replacing. Um, and then as far

[27:45] as even, you know, uh, rebates for something as complicated as a, um, heat,

[27:50] pump, hot water heater. So, kind of a wide variety of very small rebates and

[27:53] and much larger ones. So, um, we do have a variety of services we can offer to

[27:57] offset the increase and we're happy to provide those services if anyone's

[28:01] interested. Um, so that is my last slide. Um, I'm happy to answer any

[28:06] questions. Um, and really do appreciate um, council member Wilson's invite to

[28:11] come here. You know, it's really great for us to get to come and explain and

[28:13] make sure everyone has the right information to make decisions. I really

[28:16] appreciate it. >> Thank you. Um, Council Member

[28:21] No. >> Um,

[28:25] people can opt out of RCA, right? So, I mean, so let's say you you adjust your

[28:30] race and somebody's like, "Oh god, I just can't handle that." They can just

[28:34] opt out. Yeah. >> And the people who read it and say, "I'm

[28:37] okay with this." They can just stay in. So, people still have choices. This is

[28:41] » that's the heart of it. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. Absolutely.

[28:43] » That is my only clarification. Thank you.

[28:45] » Thank you, Council Member Wilson. >> Uh yeah, just a a couple things. If if

[28:51] you don't What is the ramifications if you don't raise your rates? You you

[28:57] start like you showed you at the current rate, we'd lose $6 million

[29:01] » this year. and over a substant time how long before that would eventually

[29:07] eliminate our >> um yeah without any change in rates I

[29:12] think you know we we don't really map past um asset on a three-year period

[29:17] because it become the modeling becomes very iffy after that right so the

[29:21] crystal ball gets gets even cloudier um so but looking at this I think we get

[29:25] down to just a few million um in 2028 if we don't make any changes but it's other

[29:30] things you know there's many factors happening in the background as Well, in

[29:33] terms of one, PCI advocacy that we're doing to remove that and you know, I

[29:38] will say California is the only state that doesn't um you know, many states

[29:42] have community choice energy type programs. We're the only state that

[29:45] doesn't sunset a PCIA. Um so 10 years deep into it, it should definitely go

[29:50] away. Um so we're working towards that. That's something that could change the

[29:53] background. Energy costs fluctuate daily, hourly. Um so those um you know

[29:57] even from the presentation we gave the forward last month to now um you know

[30:02] there it's the situation improved by million dollars. Um so that's why we

[30:06] want to have that ability to track it so closely and make make changes a little

[30:11] more fine-tuning so we can at least name that minimum maintain that minimum level

[30:14] of reserves um and hopefully avoid any any larger rate increases than that

[30:19] 9.5%. But in terms of if we do nothing and nothing in the background changes um

[30:24] you know it's it's it it doesn't all look rosy you know by 2028 if you pay by

[30:29] find ourselves with pretty bare minimum reserves.

[30:32] » So with with the with the increase you you hold your own with the $28 billion

[30:37] reserve for the financial thing >> and uh the the one of the things that

[30:44] happened and can I take a second? >> Yeah. uh

[30:49] » when I was in the hospital for I was in the hospital for a while and that

[30:54] there's a lot of different nurses that come through that if you've been to uh

[30:58] Providence that they that they have there and used the RCA had sent me some

[31:04] flowers and so it had RCA written on it. So they would come by and ask me all the

[31:09] time about RCA. And there's one of the things that you I saw was there was

[31:15] there was a very lack of understanding in Humble County about RCA. You know,

[31:20] it's on my bill. I see it there and I have to pay it and my what I pay double

[31:25] or all kinds of questions. So it gave me a lot of opportunity. Uh and I and I

[31:30] lost track after I don't know after 10 people I lost track of that. But one of

[31:35] the things that that seem to be the the thing that I could I could lean to is

[31:42] the the things that RCA does locally and there's there's about $10 million worth

[31:47] of $6 million like a personnel jobs or 40ome jobs. Um this $10 million that

[31:54] goes into the local economy if it was not going to RCA locally it would be

[31:59] going into as I said in the last meeting it would be going to PG& stockholders.

[32:04] uh shareholders pockets and and just as a point of interest in 2025

[32:10] PG& made $2.5 billion profit depending what you look at another one they were

[32:15] three billion depending how they their financial spreadsheets are showing you

[32:20] what they're showing and the there's there's never

[32:26] a kind of a thing that there's you know what's your goal for PGD there's never

[32:29] enough it's what the most that I what can we get and they continue to take

[32:35] that. And so by keeping this stuff local, the the jobs the uh you know the

[32:42] the support when you have 40 jobs, you have so many support jobs that help with

[32:46] that and to lose to lose that out just to let that go to to the corporate uh

[32:52] process. And the other thing was a few years back we actually had to borrow

[32:57] money from one of the rancheras to stay in business. And then this PCIA thing

[33:02] that they fill with uh they changed that to the point where we were able to come

[33:08] from being going negative we paid off the loan back to the rancheria in

[33:13] shorter than it was due and then we started acrewing the the money to bring

[33:18] up the reserves to where they're a solid right now I think it's even higher than

[33:23] 26 billion and and that happened in such a short period of time it was like like

[33:28] a phenomenal thing. What happened? Well, this PCI thing that PG wasn't getting,

[33:35] they they used to have a building in San

[33:38] Francisco that had two buildings. One takes take took up a square block of 34

[33:43] stories or something which they sold and now they're in Oakland. But they had

[33:47] people that sit around and figure this stuff out. And one of the things they

[33:52] figured out was how to do whatever they did to PCIA. Now it's now it's 232%

[33:58] above >> right

[34:00] » what they're doing and it's half the energy costs and so now they're taking

[34:03] that money back and if they probably have a I'm speaking as a conjecture a

[34:09] goal would be to eliminate CCAs because CCAs take and and purchase power on the

[34:15] open market and then send sell it back to the local people. If we weren't here,

[34:22] they would do that. They It would be them taking the power and sending it to

[34:26] you and put it in their pocket. Right. >> In this case, the the whole purpose of

[34:30] the CCA, which is community choice aggregate, was to give local communities

[34:36] a chance to do a little better in in the system and try to save money. And so the

[34:44] result of it of not of not saving a big punch on your bill, there are things

[34:49] happening in your in your community that RCA provides. And so if it were just

[34:55] left to me and we were going to vote and Frank was going to the council or to the

[35:01] board meeting, my vote would have been for this. And yet that's a big that's a

[35:07] big deal for overall. And they uh they changed it from 10 now to six. that

[35:13] that's why I came to the council that that you guys should have input as a JPA

[35:17] to influence what I do or don't do. I'll do what the C I'll express my opinion

[35:22] but I'll still vote as the council directs me and that's

[35:27] » basically what I have. >> Thank you, Council Wilson. Um I would

[35:33] like to know so what you're saying is that PCIA is not going to go away

[35:40] » as of now. No, there's some bill there. Assembly member Rogers, our Assembly

[35:44] member, uh he has uh sponsored some legislation to increase the

[35:49] transparency. So, one of the ironies of this PCIA, is that there's not a lot of

[35:53] insight to what resources they're putting into that calculation. Um and

[35:57] the claim is that it's proprietary information, sort of cost of energy, you

[36:02] know, things that um would be sort of trade secret. So we can't just let

[36:05] everybody know but there has to be some level of transparency um to understand

[36:09] well you know to give us any predictability of what will happen with

[36:12] the PCIA in the long run. Um so there is a transparency bill being being uh

[36:17] floated right now that's doing very well through committees. Um but there's no

[36:21] plan currently that would make it go away. We have um through our trade

[36:25] organization we've submitted an appeal to the California Supreme Court um for

[36:29] this uh retroactive rate making that uh we you know we're basically saying that

[36:35] this new methodology the way they calculated it to have it rise so rapidly

[36:38] at 232% constitutes retroactive rightmaking. Um so we've been taking

[36:43] that appeal as far as we can take it. So we're doing active advocacy around this

[36:47] but right now there is no sunset. There is no way that this permanently goes

[36:51] away. Um when you when you're talking about a bill to uh to address this, are

[36:59] you talking about something that would be directly um

[37:04] directed to PG&E or because really if CPU

[37:10] » says they can do it and that's what their favorite thing to do is to say you

[37:15] can do it PG& >> then there's really it. So I guess my

[37:20] question is is the bill directed at CPU? >> It would it would direct the CPU to like

[37:28] come up with a process to make the PCIA calculation more transparent for CCAs.

[37:33] » Okay. And um >> but I [clears throat] agree with your um

[37:38] synopsis there in terms of the CPU generally liking to give what they want.

[37:43] And so just my I have to honestly my

[37:49] inclination initially is to vote no because

[37:55] every single thing and every single garbage, water, trash,

[38:01] life, everything is going up. And so when something goes up, it might only go

[38:06] up 50 cents. But if 50 things go up 50 cents, then community, you know, a

[38:14] community that is um not an affluent community will suffer. And the one thing

[38:22] that we felt when we were or we we believed when we were originally all in

[38:29] and and for it is that it would be lower, that you would save us, you not

[38:37] [laughter] you know, um, from the rate increases.

[38:42] And so the rate increase of 6% is good, but it can go up to 9.5. I remember this

[38:49] whole cannabis thing, you know, it's 10%, but it could go up to 10%. And then

[38:52] we had to back it down because people didn't like that number, right? And so

[38:56] that's my concern [clears throat] is that

[39:00] you're doing it. I understand why you're doing it and I understand the need to

[39:04] do. I don't know that the community can

[39:10] sustain PE everything going up, you know. Um, and the city it's the same

[39:17] like our garbage rates go up, you know. Um, our water rates or water sewer rates

[39:23] go up and you know that's something that's been that was established like

[39:29] for the water and sewer that was established four years ago or whatever

[39:32] and it's you know this is the final year but it doesn't matter that it's the

[39:35] final year. what matters is going up, you know, and so that's really my

[39:42] biggest concern and my worry and I I do believe because I understand that every

[39:48] jurisdiction is percentage and Rioell is only a 6% um of the total um vote wise

[39:56] um that it will likely [clears throat] pass and

[40:01] I'm sure that it will likely pass here, but I just I am just very uncomfortable

[40:08] with raising things when every single day we get promised the gas is going to

[40:15] go down. It goes down for a day and then it goes back right back up, you know.

[40:18] So is there

[40:23] so the 9.5% that you say that's as high as it's going to go

[40:28] » and that's as high as it's going to go for two years because it's a twoyear or

[40:33] no that cost of living that was your your

[40:36] other sorry but is there what is the um duration of that cap of 9.5 is that you

[40:48] know like if they go up to 250%. In the PICA,

[40:53] » what happens then? >> Well, we would the way we're structuring

[40:57] this is that it would come back to our board for anything above that 9.5 would

[41:01] be a whole new discussion with the board. So, we would not take that

[41:05] without, you know, you know, we could bring it back to this council as well.

[41:09] Um, so we would have that check right there. um in terms of how long we think

[41:13] we can you know write out this particular rate and we want to be able

[41:16] to have that flexibility to analyze it you know as we go to avoid a higher rate

[41:20] increase because we run that risk if we wait too long the ask get too high and

[41:26] that's the f you know I will say it's not something we've taken lightly we've

[41:29] had this historic discount um affordability has always been a focus of

[41:32] our CA um we've saved you know well over $7 million um throughout the county

[41:38] since we started so I I I would say that we're still very much focused on

[41:42] affordability and just like the rates could go up and I hear what you're

[41:44] saying about but they never seem to come down um I think that that is a real

[41:48] potential um that we will also be monitoring for. So um as uh council

[41:53] member Wilson said you know one of the one of the great things about being a

[41:57] CCA versus a profit driven entity is that um we we can bring it down. We're

[42:02] not we're not in this just to drive up profits to the maximum extent feasible.

[42:05] So when we hit the targets that our board has set we had to back off. Um so

[42:09] I think we have some assurance there that we've got some great oversight with

[42:12] our board that's very engaged and we'll be watching it every step of the way. Um

[42:16] the energy market is volatile. Um so as I mentioned things improved even $2

[42:21] million from one month to the next. They can also on you know go the opposite

[42:24] direction. Um but we have experienced these big fluctuations and so it's very

[42:28] hard at any moment to say this is the right moment to do this and especially

[42:32] um what you mentioned with it feels like everything's going up and I will tell

[42:35] you I have spent the last two months looking around at my community and

[42:39] wondering like you know which of us can afford that and which like it's it's not

[42:43] a joke right like it's very serious and I you know I think we are also a grand

[42:48] experiment here in Humboldt um for CCAs we you know our demographics are quite

[42:53] different than a typical CCA So I think one thing about this increase um and um

[42:58] you know to your point about opt outs it is still a choice so people can make

[43:01] that choice if they need to. We've done some analysis as sort of what's the

[43:04] threshold that we can tolerate and stay viable and so we're looking at all of

[43:08] that very closely and we can selforrect at any moment um and you know think of

[43:12] alternatives or contingencies if we need to. Um but we you know one thing I would

[43:16] really encourage is those options for efficiency because it is a fairly small

[43:20] increase. Um, I think that there are some things, you know, often that could

[43:24] be done that would you could bring it back down. Um, and talking with our

[43:27] energy advisors would be a great way for people to know like, okay, how would I

[43:31] save some money here or is it just the time? I'm literally could be the time

[43:33] doing your laundry. Um, you know, so, so there could be very simple changes

[43:37] people could make in that up. Yeah. >> So, I'd really encourage that as a first

[43:41] step. We've got great people, you know, ready to give advice on that. Okay. And

[43:45] the increase would it be let's say is it I don't know exactly how

[43:52] you is it per kilowatt hour or is it per month is that whatever that that total

[43:57] amount you what what is that total amount covering

[44:00] » yeah I think it's it's per kilowatt um per kilowatt hour that what we showed

[44:04] you there the amount was a typical bill so just the very most average bill on

[44:08] the most average rate so yeah but but we are tied to um we tied to PG&

[44:16] rates. So we're still going to tear off of that, right? So um the cost is just

[44:20] looking at PG&'s rate setting and and you know going going um higher than that

[44:26] but not necessarily you know mixing up the rate classes different or um analyze

[44:31] you know kind of uh there there's a whole other method we could do which is

[44:35] like cost of service which would um perhaps have you know different rates

[44:39] for different classes of users than PG&E uses. We're not talking about any of

[44:43] that. We're just talking about straight off of the PJ bill just like we've

[44:46] always done. But half a percent, now it'll be six%.

[44:49] » Okay. And I think >> so if PG&E raises their rates,

[44:59] then you would have to raise your rates. Is that it's it's just like

[45:03] » potentially or potentially not. Yes. I mean, we we'll have to make that choice

[45:06] because we're going to watch that. So we may still need to stay higher. Um or it

[45:10] could be that if they did a dramatic rate increase, we could actually find

[45:13] ourselves lower again. It really depends on how they because we're we're basing

[45:17] this on what we need for our reserves, not not what you know just matching

[45:22] their rates. Yeah. So, so we will have that option and that is you know in our

[45:26] dream world that's the best case scenario but not exactly because we

[45:29] don't want you know rates overall pet rocket but yeah we would you know be

[45:32] able to realize that discount. Um, so yeah, it's a it's a complicated uh wish

[45:37] list, right? Because you don't want rates to go too high, but also, you

[45:40] know, we do want to be able to offer. So it could that could be, you know, the

[45:44] scenario a few months from now. >> Thank you. Is there anyone in the public

[45:48] who has a question? >> Yes. Can you

[45:53] » Okay, >> that would be great.

[45:58] » Hi, my name is Shannon Brashard, community member. My question is your

[46:02] average of $2 a little bit more or the average of4 $140 a month. What if that's

[46:07] not your average? Our I wish my average was $148 a month. I that's not and I've

[46:14] been processed with my family. So would my $2 and something cents go up because

[46:18] my bill went up because my average 200 if I'm lucky 220 on a good month. And so

[46:25] would that extra $2, would that be more for me? It would be 6% no matter my

[46:31] bill. >> Or would it the $2 that you're saying

[46:35] would go up each month? It would go up. If my bill is not $140, I'm not paying

[46:41] the the generation rate plus the PIA would be Yeah, you'd be your generation

[46:48] portion will go up, >> right? So my average

[46:55] » okay that was my question because my >> thank you

[47:01] » my average like 61 >> I don't know what I'm doing

[47:06] » that [laughter] and if I could just add you know if you

[47:09] have questions like that about your bill please call in because they can break

[47:12] down um I'm not sure how much time people have spent with their PJ new bill

[47:16] but it's um potentially purposefully confusing um you know where they put

[47:21] those charges and what you're looking at. And so if you have like for example

[47:24] natural gas that we're not talking about that at all, right? Like nothing's

[47:27] touching that. So you might have that might be where the bulk of your bill is.

[47:30] So um even though your bill may be higher than the average bill we were

[47:34] looking at here, um you know maybe your percentage of what what amount of that

[47:39] is electricity generation. Um that's the important part we're talking about. So

[47:44] um you know depending on what your appliances are, all all kinds of factors

[47:46] will go into that. So, um, yeah, that we're only talking about the electric

[47:50] portion of the bill. [clears throat] >> Thank you. Lot of

[47:56] any hands raised. >> Council, council member.

[48:01] » Well, I was just going to say um >> I kind of agree with Amanda. You have

[48:06] the option >> to um opt out even though they make it

[48:10] hard. My husband's tried to call several times. But now that I mean if

[48:16] » what is the other option opt out >> PG PG

[48:21] » do they charge you more to >> sorry

[48:26] » yeah if um if you opt out you go back to being a bundled customer um one thing

[48:30] and there is a waiting period so it's um you opt out and then uh if you if you

[48:36] for example if we were able to realize a discount and you wanted to opt back in

[48:39] it wouldn't happen instantaneously. So, so you it's a bit of a gamble,

[48:44] right? Which one do you think will be cheaper in the long term? I mean,

[48:47] historically, for the last 10 years, we've managed to be cheaper. This is the

[48:50] first time we've had to go above PJ. Um, so I think that's just to be mindful of

[48:54] that that if you opt out, you know, it takes some time to opt back in if we

[48:58] were able to realize rate savings. Um, but yes, that would be your option. You

[49:02] just go to the PG& become a bundled customer.

[49:04] » When you talk about it'll take some time, how much time to opt out?

[49:08] » Uh, when you opt out, I think there's just a small leg lag. um uh of a couple

[49:13] months to actually get back on the PG& bundled customer. But when you want to

[49:17] opt back into RCA, um I think it takes uh I want to say a year before you can

[49:22] come back in. Um yeah, so there is some time and that's just to avoid um you

[49:27] know again we're procuring power based on a anticipated load and so um if

[49:32] someone were for example trying to gain the system of opting in opting out every

[49:34] other day you know make it difficult. So there are some statutory required time

[49:38] frames. Okay.

[49:43] » Sorry I didn't mean to jump ahead of you there, Julie. Um, are

[49:48] there any um emails? Then I will Let's see. Where are we?

[49:56] Uhoh.

[50:21] direction need to provide direction to council member Wilson on how to vote for

[50:27] the uh rate increase for um RCA there. How do I It's not a motion.

[50:38] Um I think uh I think you can do it either way. I think the motion would

[50:43] probably be the best way to do it and a simple motion would be to uh

[50:50] based on what I'm reading from the council to uh make a motion to u direct

[50:56] council member Wilson to vote in the affirmative for the robocose energy

[51:00] authority budget and rate recommendation.

[51:05] Is there a motion? >> I'll make that motion.

[51:08] » Repeat it. No. It's for me. Council member Wilson

[51:14] direction to vote in the affirmative. >> In the affirmative. I couldn't I didn't.

[51:18] Yes. >> Because people have a choice ultimately.

[51:21] I think they can do. >> Yeah. Okay. I'll make the motion.

[51:25] » You have a motion. >> Oh, so state the motion.

[51:29] Tell your motion. >> I think we are the motion is to for the

[51:34] council to direct you council member Wilson to vote in the affirmative for

[51:39] the budget and the rate increase for RCA.

[51:45] » It's saying vote yes. That's basically the motion.

[51:48] » That's what you're So motion and a second. We have a second.

[51:53] Do we have a second? I'll >> second.

[51:55] » We have a motion and a second. Feeling

[52:03] vote.

[52:06] Okay. So motion car 3 one.

[52:12] » Okay.

[52:15] I will thank you both for coming.

[52:20] Absolutely. Thanks for answering all of our questions.

[52:25] Now we'll move on to the update the span neuter voucher program page 68 in our

[52:31] packets.

[52:36] » Thank you Mayor Garn members of the council. I'll go ahead and hand this

[52:39] over to our finance director, Mr. Travis Sand.

[52:43] » Thank you, city manager. And just going to wait our PowerPoint loaded here.

[52:52] All right. Thank you, Mayor Gar, members of the council. So, Riadella is a small

[52:56] rural community of about 3,400 people. And today, I want to walk you through

[53:00] what we built with our spay and neuter program and why we think it holds

[53:04] lessons for future programs like this. And everything you see today is verified

[53:08] provider billings in within the city's general ledger through the end of the

[53:12] last fiscal year, June 30th, 2026.

[53:18] Unaltered animal populations put real pressure on small cities. Shelter

[53:21] intake, animal control calls are costs that we absorb whether we budget for

[53:26] them or not. In August 2024, the city council approved a straightforward

[53:31] solution. Pay a trusted local clinic directly for each spay or neuter

[53:36] performed. Resolution 1623-2024

[53:41] established this program and named animal license fees as its funding

[53:45] source. The mechanics is simple. A resident brings a dog or cat to Humble

[53:51] Humane, which does business as Critters Without Litters, and the clinic performs

[53:55] the procedure and invoices the city per animal. We pay, there's no new staff,

[54:01] and there's no new infrastructure involved. The MLAN Foundation actually

[54:05] stepped in early with a $3,500 grant to support that helped us get us get this

[54:10] program off the ground. In 22 months of operation, the program

[54:15] asserts 53 animals, 32 dogs, and 21 cats. Every one of them through a

[54:20] voucher valued from $75 for a male cat to $350 for a female dog based on animal

[54:27] type and size. The average provider cost is about $120 per animal, which is an

[54:34] efficient number for a rule program with no administrative overhead.

[54:38] 22 months of continuous operations were done without interruption.

[54:43] We have secured $13,221 across three sources, a little over

[54:49] $8,900 from in dedicated animal license fees, $3,500 from the MLAN Foundation,

[54:55] and $750 from three community donors who believed in the program. The MLAN grants

[55:02] were instrumental in getting us off in our first year and those awards have now

[55:05] closed and the program is standing on its own.

[55:10] In the first year, fiscal 2024-25, we ran primarily on fund balance with the

[55:16] $750 donation in support. When the MLAN Foundation award closed in October 2025,

[55:23] the dedicated fee stream picked up from where the philanthropy left off. That

[55:27] transition happened without a gap in service.

[55:30] Across two years, we've secured $13,221 in grants, donations, and dedicated fees

[55:37] to run a program that serves roughly 25 animals per year.

[55:42] Here's why the program is self- sustaining. Resolution 1623-20224

[55:49] named animal license and control fees as funding source, and we ran the numbers.

[55:53] In fiscal year 2425, we collected a little over $3,900 against a $2,500

[56:00] projection. In fiscal year 2526, we collected $4,999,

[56:07] which is double the projection. We dedicated the full $8,971

[56:12] to the program, and the annual fee collections now cover the program's

[56:16] annual cost with room to spare.

[56:21] So California's $50 million California for all animals initiative directed more

[56:26] than half of its dispersed funding towards spay and neuter. That program's

[56:30] grant funds are now fully awarded. Ridel shows what a next generation of rural

[56:35] spayneuter support could look like which is locally administered feedback and

[56:40] delivered through an existing community clinic and verified to the penny.

[56:45] What dedicated local fees cannot fund is growth. We sustain 25 animals a year,

[56:51] feral cat populations, neighboring communities, expanded

[56:55] demand. Those require a state partner. The model works. The economics are

[57:00] honest and the partnership is ready. Reedell has built a self- sustaining

[57:04] rural spay and neuter program on local fees, community support, and one trusted

[57:09] clinic. We offered as a model for how this should work across California.

[57:15] Thank you for that and I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.

[57:19] » Thank you very much. And um I want to personally thank Mayor Prom Amanda

[57:26] Carter for her efforts. There's not a time that a meeting, not anything that

[57:33] goes by when she doesn't bring it up and she doesn't push it. It doesn't it

[57:37] doesn't matter what the meeting is an opening and says, "Do you have anything

[57:41] to say?" she's got something to say and it's got to do with spay neut. So, I

[57:47] want to say thank you for all you do um for this area and I would like to see if

[57:51] you would like to >> Yeah, I would love to speak on this. Um

[57:54] I first Thank you, Travis, for this lovely PowerPoint. The first one

[58:00] just makes my heart warm. How a city of 3,400 people built a self-sustaining

[58:05] space program. I wish I could see more of that. Um, [gasps]

[58:09] I guess I I think that as far as animal control goes and as we, you know, move

[58:15] forward in our animal control future, whatever those decisions are, I do think

[58:19] that this spayneuter voucher program is the most valuable and um,

[58:26] coste effective way to tackle animal overpopulation. Um, I also want to make

[58:32] sure you guys got all these letters of support from the community cuz people

[58:36] really really like this program a lot. It helps people. Um, something I hear a

[58:40] lot is that owning a pet's a luxury, but I don't think it should be, right? I I

[58:46] think that partially, you know, a lot of these times pets are they serve as

[58:50] people's emotional support. They serve as just all kinds of stuff that that we

[58:56] need and we rely on. And and I think that people should be allowed to have

[58:59] pets without it being massively uh cost prohibitive. Um I also think that when

[59:06] it comes to unwanted births, you know, um sometimes it's just an accident.

[59:11] Sometimes the cat sneaks out and comes home pregnant and then what do you do

[59:15] with this litter of five kids? Um so I think that's really effective there,

[59:20] too. I have trapped 18 cats in my backyard alone. And that's not counting

[59:25] the cats that have been out and trapped elsewhere. 18. Um, I paid out of pocket

[59:30] to have all of those cats spayed and neutered, you know, and it would have

[59:34] been really nice if the city or some, you know, there's other voucher programs

[59:37] out there, but this is by far the most sustainable, most effective way to

[59:41] combat animal overpopulation and shelter overpopulation. In light of recent

[59:47] circumstances, I I think it really highlights the need uh for spayneuter

[59:52] and people are calling for all kinds of solutions. We need oversight. We need

[59:56] you know facilities. We need infrastructure. Uh but what we really

[1:00:00] really really need is investment in spayneuter um locally at the state level

[1:00:04] at every single level. So for me it is a huge pleasure to be a representative

[1:00:10] program for how to do this. Nobody's doing this. The reason I talk about it

[1:00:15] so much is because nobody does this. Nobody else in Humble County, not a

[1:00:18] single jurisdiction's doing this. Um, there are very few programs like this in

[1:00:24] the entire state. And I haven't found a whole lot like New York City was looking

[1:00:28] at how to do it or something. So, we beat New York City to the punch really.

[1:00:33] And I want to thank this council for the support that it's given me. Um, you all

[1:00:38] have always unanimously voted yes to this stuff and so I'm proud of you. and

[1:00:44] city staff has been massively supportive in this effort. And um so so has the

[1:00:49] community resource center. Sarah can't be here today, but uh Critters Without

[1:00:53] Litters is the clinic that we contract with for this and I'm just so thankful

[1:00:59] that they're here because they are so close by. It used to be that we were

[1:01:02] driving cats and dogs up to Almost Bay Neuter Network which is a wonderful

[1:01:06] place but is far away from Rio and that by itself was prohibitive. Um, our

[1:01:11] program offers financial assistance and transportation if people need it. The

[1:01:16] mayor prom of your city shows up to your house and picks up your animal, takes it

[1:01:19] to the vet, and then brings it right back home. Um, and I think there are

[1:01:23] very few cities that can say that. Lastly, our three community donors. Um,

[1:01:29] that was my family, so I kind of want to thank them, too. [laughter]

[1:01:32] Uh, that was me saying, "Don't buy me Christmas presents this year, just

[1:01:36] donate to this program instead." Which they very graciously did. So, I would be

[1:01:40] remiss not to thank uh my mom and my sister and my father-in-law for donating

[1:01:45] as my Christmas present last year, and I'm going to try again. Um, that's my

[1:01:50] spiel. What I would like is like a is dedicated funding for this. You know, I

[1:01:55] I want to see this grow. I would love to see this open to feral and straight cats

[1:02:00] because that's really where the problem is. It's one thing to help people's pets

[1:02:04] and it's quite another to motivate people to trump around in some bushes

[1:02:08] and and try to trap these wild spitting hissing mean nasty cats uh when there

[1:02:13] isn't somebody to help drive pay whatever. A lot of the time community

[1:02:18] members are perfectly willing to pay a little bit $20 a cat, something like

[1:02:22] that. But with the city's assistance, we can really try to cut down um you know

[1:02:27] the the cats that get into your lovely flowers and you know things like that.

[1:02:31] So, um, I'm going to shut my mouth because I could talk about this for a

[1:02:35] really long time. I just I want to thank Travis especially for putting this

[1:02:38] together. It's beautiful. Thank you all.

[1:02:44] » Council member Little, >> I just want to say thank you. You've

[1:02:48] done an amazing job. You've been on this for a long time and

[1:02:53] it's a wonderful program and we do need pets.

[1:02:56] » Yeah, definitely. And so I'm all for it and I'm all for anything else we can do

[1:03:01] to help. >> Thank you, Council Member Wilson.

[1:03:04] » Yes. And I also thank Amanda. I know she's the CAT lady and so

[1:03:09] ever since you came on the council before, but u I think it's a good

[1:03:14] program. Uh and the added caveat that you told me tonight is that we beat New

[1:03:19] York. So >> I'm really proud of that.

[1:03:21] » Yeah. Good. We should be really proud of our service. Yeah. Any community member

[1:03:26] would like to speak on this? >> All right.

[1:03:33] Jennifer.

[1:03:40] » Hello. My my name is Jennifer Raymond and I just want to commend Amanda and

[1:03:48] the city of Rioell for this program. I am the founder of Critters Without

[1:03:53] Litters and also Humbult's Bayne Neuter Clinic. When I moved to Humbult County,

[1:03:59] I learned that more than 4,000 dogs and cats were being euthanized every year by

[1:04:05] the county's impound facility. And I was appalled by that. I called the facility

[1:04:13] and said, "Do you have a spayneuter program?" And they said, "No." And I

[1:04:18] said, "Well, um, I'd like to volunteer to start one. I'll do it as a volunteer.

[1:04:24] I'll raise all the money." And they said, "No, thank you." So, I had to

[1:04:28] start a nonprofit and it turned into Humble Spain Neuter Clinic. The very

[1:04:32] first year we operated, we were spaying and we spayed neutered more than 3,500

[1:04:39] dogs and cats. And what this represents is thousands of kittens and puppies that

[1:04:46] aren't born, don't need to be impounded, won't be euthanized.

[1:04:51] And the problem with spayneuter is we don't have a whole lot to show for our

[1:04:56] work. You know, I mean, the more successful we are, the less we have to

[1:05:01] show. But what you've done here is wonderful, and I think it's a model, and

[1:05:07] it's a model that I'm going to work on. I'm talking with the county board of

[1:05:12] supervisors and using Rioddell as a model saying

[1:05:17] let's do this as a county. So thank you so much for what you are doing here.

[1:05:23] Thank you Amanda and uh this is just really forwardlooking because we won't

[1:05:30] solve pet overpopulation until we solve the problem of unwanted

[1:05:36] births. And that's what's sp. Thank you.

[1:05:40] » Thank you for being here. >> There anyone else

[1:05:47] standing up?

[1:05:51] » I wasn't sure if she >> Okay, then. Um I Any hands raised? Any

[1:05:57] emails? Then I will ask for a motion to direct staff to establish a recurring

[1:06:06] dedicated dedication of animal license and control

[1:06:10] fee revenue to the program beginning in fiscal year 2627. Is there a motion?

[1:06:16] » I would love to make that motion. >> Have a motion. Is there a second?

[1:06:19] » I have a second. >> Have a motion and a second.

[1:06:22] » Motion carries 4. >> Thank you everybody.

[1:06:25] » Thank you. No, thank you. No, we're we're too

[1:06:28] » [clears throat] >> Now we will move on to discussion and

[1:06:32] possible action regarding the police department animal pinnel project

[1:06:37] 77 in our packet. City manager. >> I'll go ahead and turn it over to Chief

[1:06:42] Benning. >> Thank you. Mayor Garn council members as

[1:06:47] the council may recall previously this item was brought up the need to

[1:06:51] establish facility for the city and they formed the ad hoc committee. At that

[1:06:57] committee meeting, multiple different options were presented and I'm here

[1:07:02] tonight to present to the council what was decided on.

[1:07:08] If the council would guide their attention to page

[1:07:16] 84, 85, 86. I have some photograph there for

[1:07:21] reference as I go through this.

[1:07:26] The ad that hawk committed committee

[1:07:31] decided uh that the 12x 246 run prefabricated commercial kennel was the

[1:07:39] appropriate option. It comes complete with electrical packaging, climate

[1:07:42] control, floor drains, dog doors, heating system, all for the ballpark

[1:07:46] figure of about $70,000.

[1:07:52] We eliminated some of the options on this since the writing of this packet.

[1:07:57] Uh eliminating some of the AC related stuff in favor of the fan and kept the

[1:08:01] heat element for wintertime, saving us a couple thousand dollars there.

[1:08:07] This includes the construction of a 28T by 18t reinforced concrete slab that

[1:08:12] this building would sit on. That would cost us approximately $12,890.

[1:08:19] the installation of an automatic electric gate system with walkthrough

[1:08:22] access gate associated [clears throat] fencing improvements. We have a quote

[1:08:26] for that for $9,750.

[1:08:30] At the time of writing this, we estimated that the additional features

[1:08:34] including the modification of the power to handle this building and the

[1:08:38] installation of the tank be approximately $10,000.

[1:08:42] Unfortunately, that has come in closer to 25,000, bringing our total project

[1:08:49] cost up in the ballpark of $125,000.

[1:08:59] Staff is recommending that council would authorize staff to actively seek

[1:09:04] donations, sponsorships, grants, outside funding sources with the goal of

[1:09:09] securing approximately 30% of the project costs.

[1:09:13] That is a number I would recommend the council discuss determine if 30% is

[1:09:18] appropriate or if they think more or less as far as donation grants go be

[1:09:24] appropriate.

[1:09:28] I would however recommend that council

[1:09:33] preemptively authorize construction of the concrete slab as the goal for this

[1:09:38] project was set to be completed prior to winter arriving and contractors are

[1:09:43] already scheduling out quite far. So concrete collab would be one of the

[1:09:48] cheaper parts of this at the $12,890

[1:09:54] benchmarks.

[1:09:58] So with that again, we're requesting council authorize construction of the

[1:10:03] concrete slab immediately, authorize staff to solicit donations,

[1:10:07] grants, and sponsorships, [clears throat] and then direct staff to

[1:10:11] return to the city council once donations and outside funding have

[1:10:15] totaled whatever number the council feels is

[1:10:19] appropriate as a ballpark figure. The 30% of the

[1:10:24] total project costs known right now would be approximately $39,000

[1:10:29] at that 30% benchmark. And with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions or

[1:10:34] council has. >> Thank you, Chief Finny. Thanks for all

[1:10:39] your diligence and looking up on me finding all this information and thank

[1:10:44] you for taking out the air conditioning because well I don't have it [laughter]

[1:10:49] but um uh I will go to Mayor Pro. >> Thank you. Um I I sit on the ad hoc

[1:10:57] committee so this isn't the first time I'm seeing this. Um, I I know these

[1:11:01] numbers are big and these numbers are scary and I think that when we do our

[1:11:05] budgets and it's not like Riadell's rolling in a ton of money. Um, I do like

[1:11:10] the idea of looking for donations and other um, you know, funding sources, but

[1:11:15] ultimately I don't know how much of a choice we have about doing something

[1:11:19] like this. Uh, what we're doing now is hanging by a thread. We're we're doing

[1:11:23] our best and we're doing a bangup job so far um of of keeping cats out of the PD

[1:11:29] and of everybody running around trying to deal with any dogs that do come in

[1:11:34] here. I know we have Fortuna as a backup plan, but that's not sustainable either.

[1:11:38] It's not going to last. I think that the goal is to be as self-sufficient as

[1:11:42] possible for the future. You know, um I've talked to Chief about this. I think

[1:11:48] 85ish% of the dogs that we take in or somebody's pet that we need to we need a

[1:11:53] couple days to figure it out. I don't see this being like, oh, now we just

[1:11:57] have dogs that live here forever. You know, I I think that most of these dogs

[1:12:02] end up going back to their owners. Um, and I think our PD does a wonderful job

[1:12:06] of dealing with the ones that genuinely don't have homes. Um, I [clears throat]

[1:12:10] think that we kind of have to do this. I'm in favor of the whole thing. I want

[1:12:16] to thank public works for being agreeable as far as like the placement

[1:12:19] of this thing. City staff has really banded together on this and and there's

[1:12:24] a desperate need for us to be as self-sufficient as possible and I think

[1:12:28] this is our only choice. So that's me >> in response to what Mayor Proemp just

[1:12:34] said as a point of reference. We're currently utilizing Fortuna kennels for

[1:12:40] storage of our canines and cats. We only have one, sometimes two if we can

[1:12:45] negotiate a kennels available to us. And I've heard from their staff that they

[1:12:50] will be demolishing that as part of a sewer expansion program likely next

[1:12:56] year. So that is very short term. >> And the last ballpark figure I got for

[1:13:01] contracting county was in the ballpark of 130,000 per year

[1:13:08] » with travel time. And yes, council member Wilson.

[1:13:12] » Yeah. A couple questions. Do does our current staff to are we able to handle

[1:13:17] that with our current staff or >> Yes, we are.

[1:13:20] » And the the other thing is were there were Amanda said that this was 85% or

[1:13:27] people pets that got picked up. Were those going to Miranda previously and

[1:13:31] then they wouldn't they had to go to Miranda and get them back? Under the

[1:13:35] previous agreement, at any time we took any animal and couldn't find the owner

[1:13:40] within a very reasonable amount of time, hour or two, then the animal would be

[1:13:44] taken to Miranda's. They would have to come to us, pay their fees, and then go

[1:13:47] out to Miranda's rescue, pay their fees. >> So now that'll all be done basically in

[1:13:54] house to to the city with >> Yes.

[1:13:56] » And then then do we have a do we have to add something to the budget to feed

[1:14:00] these dogs and cats or do we >> I think

[1:14:04] It can be covered under the existing budget. It's not a very expensive cost,

[1:14:09] a couple hundred dollars a month. We're not storing very many animals there long

[1:14:13] term. And we can always seek community donations for assistance,

[1:14:17] » which we have lined up already if necessary. So, yeah,

[1:14:22] » sounds good. It sounds at least we know what's going on

[1:14:28] » instead of being blind to what we were. Thank you.

[1:14:32] » Thank you. Council member Wall, >> I I like the idea, but I hope that

[1:14:38] sometime we can maybe sit down and talk about more of the little things that

[1:14:43] we'll have to handle, you know, if we have them, how long we're going to keep

[1:14:46] them. Um, vetinarian if they need that. I I don't want to make any mistakes that

[1:14:52] others have made in keeping animals. Yes. Here. I want to make sure it's all

[1:14:58] and if we need um if we're going to we'll be charging people when they come

[1:15:03] to get their pets. >> Yes. If your animals get picked up and

[1:15:06] they're housed by the police department, you are stored the fees for your dogs

[1:15:10] wearing boots and those fees do increase with rate currency.

[1:15:14] » Okay. But at some point, I mean I I would vote for this tonight, but can we

[1:15:20] at some point can we have a meeting and talk about all the little stuff that

[1:15:23] might >> Absolutely. This is a discussion item. I

[1:15:26] The only thing I'm recommending tonight is that the council approve the

[1:15:30] construction of the slab here tonight. >> Okay, that's perfect. Thank you.

[1:15:34] » Thank you. Um, and um, just looking forward, is that from a budget

[1:15:42] standpoint as we're talking about money and fees and all that kind of stuff, is

[1:15:46] that something that is within the city's ability without going, you

[1:15:53] know, in a >> it would be something that we we would

[1:15:56] need to make a budget adjustment on. This was something that wasn't predicted

[1:15:59] during the budget cycle and when the budget was adopted. Um the city does

[1:16:03] have reserves and this would be a general fund expense uh as far as I I

[1:16:08] know and so we do have reserves to cover things like this and so it is within our

[1:16:13] capacity and we would still be meeting our minimum required reserves.

[1:16:18] Um, that's good. And and we've already with I was also on the ad hoc committee

[1:16:24] and we talked about volunteers to help um to support the police department. Um,

[1:16:31] and we've had people who have, you know, spoken with that have said yes, they

[1:16:36] were willing to and and it's people that we trust, you know, not just walking

[1:16:41] down the street, you know, random. So, um I think that um

[1:16:48] going forward I I agree. I don't think we have a lot of choice and I think um

[1:16:54] the sooner we do it the because we do want to get it done

[1:16:59] before winter. Um so are the that's my um are there any questions? Anyone any

[1:17:08] statements from public community? >> Yeah. Yeah. When

[1:17:14] » Alison, can you say who you are for the >> Yeah.

[1:17:19] » Oh, you are. >> Well, I understand.

[1:17:22] » Thank you. >> Um,

[1:17:25] do you um do you require that if you take in an

[1:17:30] animal and report it to be claimed um that it be?

[1:17:37] » Yes.

[1:17:41] That that's one thing that I wondered and there's there's something it doesn't

[1:17:46] really have to police department or there was something else that I

[1:17:52] of an issue that would could really make a huge

[1:17:57] change and that is

[1:18:01] apartments allowing pets

[1:18:06] neutered pets. It would be very very helpful especially

[1:18:12] communities with a large number of apartments

[1:18:16] if the if the apartments did allow pets would provide a lot more home.

[1:18:23] And then there's something that could go along with that

[1:18:29] and that could be um apartments that added patios

[1:18:37] » to their units and that would make a huge difference

[1:18:45] in a lot of surrounding. >> Absolutely.

[1:18:48] » Okay. >> Okay. Well, thank you. I don't know that

[1:18:51] that's anything we can or should we get law private but um but it is I I agree

[1:18:57] with you. Um I'm just saying you know private person owns it they can do what

[1:19:03] they we can't force anyone to do anything is all I'm saying but

[1:19:07] » but I'm but I appreciate what you're saying and I agree absolutely that that

[1:19:12] would actually be very very helpful >> and then you should be charged.

[1:19:16] » Oh, right.

[1:19:22] Yes. >> So, is there

[1:19:25] any hand raise, any emails, any other statements? Okay. Well, there is there a

[1:19:31] motion to authorize construction of a concrete slab for the proposed police

[1:19:37] department animal kennel project? And is there also to authorize staff to

[1:19:44] solicit donations, grants, sponsorships, and other

[1:19:48] community funding? I'm going to stop before I ask for this motion because I

[1:19:52] forgot we needed to talk about percentage.

[1:19:56] » Is there a percentage of donation? Is 30% good with everyone? You want it

[1:20:01] higher? 30% good.

[1:20:06] » Okay. 30. >> I just had to make sure I didn't forget

[1:20:08] that part. Okay. And so I then is there a motion to authorize construction of

[1:20:15] concrete slab authorize staff to solicit donation grant sponsorships and other

[1:20:20] community funding sources with the goal of securing 30% and can to direct staff

[1:20:26] to return to the city once the donations and outside funding totaling 30% is

[1:20:33] achieved. >> So moved. I have a motion. Is there a

[1:20:37] second? Julie, >> we have a motion and a second.

[1:20:40] » Yes. >> Motion carries 40.

[1:20:46] » Okay. Now we will move on to continued public hearing on the objection to the

[1:20:52] delinquent sewer service charge for assessors parcel number 052-122-021-00

[1:21:00] and consideration of a revised report of delinquent sewer service charges. City

[1:21:05] manager. Thank you. I'll go ahead and turn this over to Travis Sanborn, our

[1:21:09] finance director. >> Thank you, Mayor Garn, members of the

[1:21:13] council. On July 7th, the council held the annual public hearing on delinquent

[1:21:18] sewer charges and adopted resolution 1675-2026

[1:21:24] confirming the report of delinquent accounts. The property owner at 1231

[1:21:29] Iloa Avenue submitted a written objection and asked for additional time

[1:21:33] to prepare a response. The council continued the hearing on

[1:21:38] that one parcel to tonight. All other parcels on the report were confirmed on

[1:21:43] July 7th and are not here before you this evening. The account and is active

[1:21:48] is an active sewer account build monthly. The charges are the monthly

[1:21:52] sewer service charge and the late charges authorized under chapter 13.10

[1:21:57] and staff has reviewed the account and can account for every line on the

[1:22:00] report. After the hearing, the property owner, the council has two options under

[1:22:06] sections 13.10.244B.

[1:22:11] First, they can overrule the objection and affirm the charge. Resolution number

[1:22:16] 1675-2026 already confirms the report, including

[1:22:20] this parcel. So, no further action is needed and staff files a report as

[1:22:24] confirmed. Second, remove or reduce the charge.

[1:22:29] That requires adopting resolution number 1677-2026

[1:22:35] which confirms a revised report and amends resolution 1675 to this parcel

[1:22:41] only. Every other partial every other parcel is unaffected.

[1:22:47] Staff recommends the council overrule the objection and affirm the charge is

[1:22:50] confirmed and any account paid in full on or before August 6th is removed from

[1:22:56] the report and nothing is placed on the tax bill. That option remains open

[1:23:00] regardless of your action tonight. That concludes the staff report. Believe

[1:23:05] the property owner requested time to prepare a response and is here to

[1:23:08] present and I'd return it to the mayor to open the continued hearing.

[1:23:12] » Thank you. We'll open the continuing hearing and invite [clears throat] Dr.

[1:23:21] Sorry about having to bring my laptop. >> Doesn't matter. Just

[1:23:24] » everything you don't have one second. My name is Al

[1:23:29] Petrovich. I live in Riadell. >> And before I before you go, I just want

[1:23:34] to say this item is it's got a 10-minute limit. And also this is not up to be a

[1:23:41] discussion with staff. You've already had your discussions with staff. This is

[1:23:45] you're just speaking with the council. >> That's fine.

[1:23:48] » Thank you. >> Yes. And thanks for 10 minutes instead

[1:23:51] of three. >> There you go.

[1:23:54] » Well, it's it's going to be difficult to cover over 160 years of history in this

[1:23:59] country in 10 minutes. But let me talk about the key points. The purpose of

[1:24:05] government is to protect the people and their product and no other purpose.

[1:24:09] Okay. Then it's my duty to know who I am. Got to

[1:24:15] know who you are and who the other entity is. Well, I've done a lot of

[1:24:19] research on the other entity called government. It turns out the government

[1:24:24] all of it is corporation incorporated and for profit and I've got proof.

[1:24:33] I want to have this if I can to you and this is it is an internet

[1:24:40] each one of those.

[1:24:46] So back back in the history they converted us to a corporate run and they

[1:24:53] eliminated our actual lawful government and it happened in 1860s with the civil

[1:24:59] war and you can look it up and the problem is we got schools that don't

[1:25:04] teach us this. There's enough information on this paper here that you

[1:25:08] will be able to uncover that 160 years history. Now, I'm going to have to skip

[1:25:13] forward because of my time limit to the Federal Reserve. It's a private entity.

[1:25:19] There's no authorization board in our government. How does this happen? We

[1:25:23] have corporations running. Even the city of Radell is incorporated.

[1:25:28] And there's another way to prove it. You all have Dun and Brad Street numbers.

[1:25:34] That's for-profit corporations list. I don't happen to have those numbers

[1:25:39] with me tonight, but I do have. And so what happened was once the Federal

[1:25:45] Reserve took over, in order to [clears throat] legitimatize, when you

[1:25:48] read this, you'll see it, they had to provide a remedy for the people. And the

[1:25:55] remedy is House Joint Resolution 192. That remedy is that because they took

[1:26:00] all of our gold and our ability to pay bills, which is what we're talking about

[1:26:05] tonight, we don't have any money. They took it. So, they had to pass House

[1:26:11] Joint Resolution 192, 1933, the bills, the responsibility of the

[1:26:18] United States Corporation, all of them. Yours, mine, every one of them,

[1:26:24] mortgages, you name it. And if you look on here

[1:26:29] on the second page, it's actually second page. I I underline not

[1:26:37] » with they needed plausible deniability. And even when the people knew they had a

[1:26:41] remedy and pursued it, the attorneys, judges, and legislators could act that

[1:26:45] they did not understand the people's claims. requiring the public schools to

[1:26:50] teach civics, government, history classes, and approved politically

[1:26:53] correct textbooks also assured people would not find the remedy. For a long

[1:26:58] time, they found it. Passing new state and federal laws that

[1:27:02] appeared to subject people to rules and regulations added another level of

[1:27:06] protection against people finding their remedy. In 1933,

[1:27:12] the United States put its insurance policy in place with House Foot

[1:27:16] Resolution 192, recorded it in a congressional record. It is there.

[1:27:21] The man who read that into the record, his name was Lewis T. McFaden. He

[1:27:26] brought formal charges May 23rd, 1933 against the Board of Governors and the

[1:27:31] Federal Reserve System, the controller of the currency, Secretary of State, the

[1:27:35] Treasury, and uh I'm going to skip ahead a little, Mr. McFaden claimed on June

[1:27:41] 10th, 1933. This ought to put chills in your bag. Mr. Chairman, we have in this

[1:27:47] country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I

[1:27:52] refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. House Joint

[1:27:57] Resolution 192 is the insurance policy that protects the legislators from

[1:28:01] conviction for fraud and treason against the American people. It also protects

[1:28:06] the American people from damages caused by the actions of the United States for

[1:28:10] speaking like he did. Mr. McFaden was poisoned by the powers that be by the

[1:28:15] agents of the federal corporation. This is all the history. So I study

[1:28:21] history and to study history you study law. That's the only place you're going

[1:28:25] to find the real history. So on the city I did a a public records request and I

[1:28:32] found out that you four members of the council I was furnished for those

[1:28:38] all four of those are improper. They're short versions of what's in the

[1:28:42] California constitution and I've got copies of that. I don't have enough

[1:28:48] but the point is without a proper oath and bond you have no power and never had

[1:28:54] it. that has to be in place before you sit in those seats and the bond has got

[1:29:01] to be recorded and accept and it should be in the county recorder's office.

[1:29:07] My point is that I'm not here to chastise you in the council because

[1:29:13] there's a lot of it's either ignorance or you're willfully and intentionally

[1:29:18] part of the scheme. These are the only two choices and I'm hoping it it's just

[1:29:22] ignorance. years ago. I laid constitutions down here all the time

[1:29:27] when I came up to speak, right? >> Yeah. Do you remember me?

[1:29:31] » I did remember you >> from 14 15 years ago.

[1:29:35] » Oh, I don't know if I remember. >> I met you on the beach before you became

[1:29:39] a council member. >> I do.

[1:29:40] » You remember? Yeah. >> And I told you about this and you

[1:29:44] thought it was too big of a conspiracy, which is understandable. When I first

[1:29:48] learned about it 25 plus years ago, I've been digging ever since. So my point

[1:29:53] being is that these governments, including this one, are for-profit

[1:29:58] organizations. Where the money is, I don't know. There used to be uh caffers.

[1:30:04] Is there still cappers? Comprehensive amal financial. Well, I'm not supposed

[1:30:08] to talk to him. Okay. I've got a lot more now. I've got

[1:30:14] 25 years of learning. And I learned that everything they taught me in school was

[1:30:19] not what's going on in this country. The corporations we're dealing with are

[1:30:23] foreign. Great Britain. Great Britain, I found

[1:30:28] out, is not a country. It's a corporation.

[1:30:32] And that's what's running this country as part of it. The rest of it is through

[1:30:36] the Roman civil law, through the the Pope of all things.

[1:30:41] He is the one that can he is the one that creates any corporation and can

[1:30:46] deny it. Right now, this matter is before the International Criminal Court.

[1:30:51] And the 60 countries that are controlled by these corporations, and this is one

[1:30:56] of them. And those 60 countries are trying to withdraw from the jurisdiction

[1:31:00] of the International Criminal Court. And by doing so, they've identified

[1:31:05] themselves. That's what's going on right now.

[1:31:09] So, my point being is that that bill is paid and all your bills are paid. PG&

[1:31:15] bills are paid. They know it. I did send something to PGNA and I I don't know the

[1:31:20] exact system, but it was like I was close.

[1:31:25] They've been paid and when we pay them, they're getting paid a second time.

[1:31:30] It sounds incredible. Do your research. There's a whole lot of

[1:31:34] sites on here right here, citations where you can go.

[1:31:41] I've done my due diligence and I can tell you this. You cannot force me to be

[1:31:45] a part of a criminal system. It's not my nature and I don't want anything to do

[1:31:50] with it. That's my argument. I've got a lot more,

[1:31:54] but that's a real short summary of is my time up. No. Okay. Uh so what I'm what

[1:32:02] I'm asking the council to do is to do what they should have done in the first

[1:32:06] place. Before you sit in the seat, you study what your duty is. Your duty is to

[1:32:11] the people. Study the Constitution. It's the

[1:32:16] Constitution is merely a contract. And here's something else that might catch

[1:32:20] you guys. There's three of them. 1779 and up to the the corporate

[1:32:26] constitution. So two of them were corporate. So where did they come from?

[1:32:31] What's the basis? After the revolutionary war, there were

[1:32:35] treaties. Those treaties establish the content of the constitution. And that's

[1:32:42] my next area of study are the treaties. Just like it says in the constitution,

[1:32:47] the constitution, all treaties to the constitution or the ruling law of

[1:32:52] the land. We're talking the law of the land,

[1:32:55] supreme law of the land. What do I see? I want to see our city become educated

[1:33:00] and run our our government because right now you're a government services

[1:33:05] provider. I want to run our government like it's intended to be. We all know

[1:33:09] something's crazy wrong with this world. Can't put your thumb on. Well, there's a

[1:33:15] whole lot right here you can put your thumb.

[1:33:18] Our power the the people at the congressional level are paid.

[1:33:25] They're not paid. Okay. One other real quick thing. Our military is paid by CO

[1:33:32] corporation which is British. That's why they send them to war without

[1:33:36] a declaration of war. They're mercenaries.

[1:33:39] They're for our government. It sounds incredible and prove it. Good luck

[1:33:43] yourself. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you for the history.

[1:33:48] » You're laptop.

[1:33:55] » So I will bring this back to the council.

[1:34:00] Julie. Um, Council Member Wilson, have any

[1:34:06] » Well, you're over my head. Okay. I mean, I'm I first let me say Al, I I have a

[1:34:12] tremendous amount of respect for you and your for what you've studied and what

[1:34:17] you presented in the past with like with the water. They told us to shut our

[1:34:21] water off. Al told us some stuff about the rights that we have and that the

[1:34:26] state had no right to turn our water off and the council basically snickered at

[1:34:31] him that he was a nut. And it turned it turned out

[1:34:37] somebody else actually had the money to to sue the state because they had to

[1:34:41] check the water flow down at the bridge in order to justify the charge to turn

[1:34:46] us off. They found it came back and we got a letter that said we weren't

[1:34:50] required to turn our water off. We did not do we lowered it to 50 gallons per

[1:34:54] person per day. What I'm saying is there's a lot of credibility in what

[1:35:00] [clears throat] my respect for out Mr. Petra.

[1:35:04] U however on this particular thing with the U

[1:35:11] sewer bill if if we were at a point where this

[1:35:15] could be challenged. We have a legal counsel that we ran our system through

[1:35:20] and he okayed it and it appears I'm not like I say it's over my head with this

[1:35:27] whole thing with the country being legal or not legal or I got to be bonded to be

[1:35:31] in this chair. uh we have a we have a water system that

[1:35:36] needs to be taken care of or a sewer system that needs to be taken care of

[1:35:41] and the rest of the city's doing that if they're doing it wrong. Uh welcome to

[1:35:46] the crowd if you want to be a part of this. I'm not sure if you're currently

[1:35:51] staying in Riverdale at this time. I wanted to come up and talk to you

[1:35:54] personally, but I there's doesn't look like anybody's in the house um with the

[1:36:00] way the cars are and the lights and everything. So, I I didn't get up there,

[1:36:04] but um I think you need to pay your sewer bill

[1:36:08] if you're going to stay here. That's just the penalty of being there.

[1:36:14] » Thank you, Council Member Woodall. I think a sew sewer bill needs to be

[1:36:19] paid but I also respect a lot of that he has to say. Yes,

[1:36:26] » the bill needs to be paid. Yeah. >> There anyone in

[1:36:32] community wants to speak

[1:36:37] their hand raised emails. Then I will ask for a motion overruling

[1:36:44] the objection and affirming the charges confirmed by resolution 1675 2026 in

[1:36:50] which case in which case no further council action directed. So I would just

[1:36:57] ask for the overruling of the objection and affirming the charges confirmed by

[1:37:01] resolution 1675. >> I'll make that motion.

[1:37:03] » We have a motion. Is there a second? >> A second. Motion and a second. Motion

[1:37:10] carries 4.0.

[1:37:14] And now we will move on to council reports.

[1:37:21] Mayor, >> well, I guess I don't got to tell you

[1:37:23] all to spay and neuter your pets, but I still can't spay new to your pets and

[1:37:26] the randoms that aren't your pets, maybe. Um, we have our nuisance advisory

[1:37:31] committee in this room, city hall council chambers, 3 pm tomorrow. And I

[1:37:36] have a co-ad board meeting the following Thursday via Zoom and my reduct meeting

[1:37:42] this month is cancelled. So I got a short one this time. That's it. Thank

[1:37:46] you. >> Thank you, Council Member Woodall.

[1:37:49] » Not much to say except Wildwood Days is coming and everybody come down and enjoy

[1:37:53] everything. We have lots of events and the firemen put on a very good Wildwood

[1:37:58] Days and we need to support them. >> Thank you, Council Member Wilson. Uh

[1:38:03] nothing much other than I have as you know our street meeting Thursday. I

[1:38:09] thank you for the board giving me direction for the council giving me

[1:38:12] direction and uh >> Yes.

[1:38:16] » Okay. Um and I have a site and safety commission meeting on

[1:38:23] Thursday. Um, and I just wanted to thank the volunteers that Tribal Park,

[1:38:31] Elizabeth Warren and Susan D'Angelo and you well and me and Julie and the city

[1:38:39] manager who the transport um for um all that was done down there at Triangle

[1:38:46] Park. Um it's really pretty. It's something we can be proud of when we

[1:38:50] walk down the street. Um hopefully um and I want to thank uh public works who

[1:38:56] have figured out a way to make the water work down there and keep those plans

[1:39:00] alive and thriving. So I appreciate that. Um and also I want to thank the

[1:39:06] CCC who comes out who's come out five weekends in a row to help the community

[1:39:12] garden. Community garden was better than it's looked. I don't ever know if it's

[1:39:16] ever looked as good as it looks right now. But they have come out every

[1:39:20] weekend. They've worked, you know, from 9 till 3 and they are moving bricks,

[1:39:25] they're moving soil, they're digging plots, they're doing everything that is

[1:39:30] being asked of them, and they're doing it with a good sense of humor and a

[1:39:35] willingness to actually be there and do whatever they need done. Um, uh, Jackie,

[1:39:41] I can't remember her last name. Really bad about that. and Elizabeth and

[1:39:46] Kelsey, they are the main three um that are down there and they are I mean

[1:39:52] Jackie's down there almost every single day. They are taking those vegetables

[1:39:56] that they are growing and they're taking them down to the resource center and

[1:40:01] turning them over to the resource center on the Wednesday before commodities day

[1:40:05] so that the resource center can pass them out to community. You don't have to

[1:40:09] have a a plot. they are actually picking those veggies and taking them down there

[1:40:15] for the community. So, it's a true community garden. It's truly meant to

[1:40:20] help everyone in this community feed everyone and keep everyone and healthy.

[1:40:24] And so, I just wanted to give a shout out to them. They their grand opening is

[1:40:31] on >> Sundays

[1:40:36] is there's a flyer on the kiosk. Yeah, there's a flyer on the kiosk. But I

[1:40:39] think it's Friday, Saturday, Friday. I know for sure Saturday they'll have the

[1:40:44] gate open at the front on Wildwood. Even though the Flyers have Butcher Street,

[1:40:48] the gate will be open on Wildwood and hopefully they were trying to work out a

[1:40:53] shuttle. So hopefully they have worked that out to get people like from

[1:40:56] downtown up here. Um, but they have really worked hard. Uh, Jen, you'll see

[1:41:03] a sign that's going to be up there. It is absolutely beautiful. She painted it.

[1:41:07] She hand painted it. It looks like sign that we said we wanted on on the

[1:41:12] highway. Riadell Community Garden with the logo with the redwood trees with the

[1:41:17] bluffs and um it's like four 4 by eight 4 by eight I mean and and she hand

[1:41:25] painted the whole thing and it is absolutely beautiful. So I want to thank

[1:41:28] her as well and um I think that's all that I have.

[1:41:32] » Yes. You know, when we were talking about the triangle part, I wanted to

[1:41:36] thank Cindy Treadwell because she's >> she kind of got it on her after she

[1:41:40] weeded the whole thing. >> Absolutely. And that's sort of got us

[1:41:44] rolling and I apologize Cindy if you're paying attention. Julie was right and I

[1:41:49] apologize. Thank you very much. Uh Cindy Treadwell. So um I think that is all and

[1:41:55] I will ask for a motion to adjurnn. So move

[1:41:57] » a motion a second. >> Meeting adjourned until August 4th, 2026

[1:42:04] at 6 p.m. Thank you everyone for coming.

Rio Dell City Council Meeting of 2026-07-21

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