[0:02] Start the meeting with the pledge of allegiance

[0:07] to the flag of the United States of

[0:09] America and to the republic for it

[0:12] stands one nation under God indivisible

[0:17] with liberty and justice for all.

[0:29] Start with the approval of the minutes.

[0:33] Believe we have June 22. We don't have

[0:39] » Okay.

[0:44] Then we're going to move on to what was

[0:46] approved by two. So 610 SAG Main Street,

[0:51] the installation of driveway gates was

[0:53] approved and 182 Townline Road.

[0:58] That was approved.

[1:01] Moving on to old business 124 skate

[1:04] lane.

[1:14] We move on to 60 Daniels Lane Farm.

[1:25] Is anyone here from traffic far?

[1:28] Mark

[1:31] » can you turn on your video and

[1:34] microphone?

[1:36] >> Yep, I'm here.

[1:38] >> Hey Mark,

[1:41] >> can you get Yeah. Hi. How are you?

[1:43] >> Great. We can hear you.

[1:47] » We're starting with this. Okay,

[1:50] >> that's what I have. What do you Would

[1:52] you like me to call?

[1:54] >> No, no, no. That's good. I I'm happy to

[1:57] do that.

[2:01] Um, okay. Are we ready?

[2:03] >> Yes.

[2:06] >> All right. Um,

[2:08] I want to thank you guys for again for

[2:10] the opportunity to present. Thank the

[2:12] board for that. Um, as we discussed at

[2:15] the first meeting, topping farm is an

[2:17] important link to Sagoponic's

[2:19] agricultural heritage. Um, although its

[2:22] primary use is equestrian, it remains an

[2:24] active working farm with horses, barns,

[2:26] paddics, fields, and open landscapes

[2:27] requiring daily year-round care and

[2:30] stewardship.

[2:32] The permanent farm workers who live and

[2:34] work here are essential to that

[2:35] operation. Their daily responsibilities

[2:38] from caring for the horses to

[2:39] maintaining the paddics, fields,

[2:40] fencing, and other agricultural areas

[2:43] are what allow the property to continue

[2:45] functioning as well as maint

[2:47] well-maintaining or as well maintained

[2:50] working farm and preserve its pastoral

[2:52] character. The proposed improvements are

[2:54] intended simply to provide appropriate

[2:56] accommodations for these year-round

[2:58] members of the farm. Our goal is a

[3:01] modest and carefully considered

[3:02] improvement that supports the continued

[3:04] agricultural use of topping farm while

[3:06] respecting its scale, character, and

[3:08] historical context. We appreciate the

[3:10] board's continued consideration and look

[3:12] forward to addressing the proposal with

[3:14] you today.

[3:16] Um so this first slide, the red fills

[3:20] indicate the um they denote the

[3:22] previously proposed column

[3:25] and additional column requested by the

[3:27] board.

[3:28] Uh the canal lever creates a balance

[3:30] through openness and lightness. The

[3:32] gable already has significant visual

[3:35] weight and out adding the outer column

[3:37] would create greater asymmetry um

[3:40] because it's not a true mirror of the

[3:41] bench column.

[3:44] It would also not align with the

[3:45] existing column near the bench. As said

[3:48] uh the additional column would emphasize

[3:50] one edge without creating a clear clear

[3:52] rhythm. And the canal lever helps offset

[3:55] the gable's mass and maintains a cleaner

[3:56] composition.

[3:58] Next slide.

[4:01] Uh the orange fill indicates the open

[4:03] voids for viewing. Um it is our position

[4:07] that balance does not require symmetry.

[4:10] It can come from proportions, massing,

[4:12] materials, and relationships between

[4:14] elements.

[4:16] Uh the canal lever corners are

[4:18] intentional and integral to the design.

[4:20] The open corners create voids that frame

[4:22] views and enhance the experience of the

[4:24] inhabitants, the very people who are

[4:26] stewards of this farm.

[4:28] Adding columns solely for symmetry would

[4:30] alter the design intent without

[4:32] improving balance and symmetry would not

[4:34] be achieved.

[4:36] Next slide.

[4:40] So each porch porch here uh includes a

[4:43] bench oriented towards the fields. The

[4:45] canal lever creates a shaded open void.

[4:48] The open corner provides clear views

[4:50] towards the fields. The design

[4:52] intentionally combines shade, seating

[4:54] and views. Next slide.

[4:58] Corner columns would reduce the intended

[5:00] open views from the porches. Uh

[5:03] properties with views towards the

[5:04] porches are more than 500 feet away.

[5:07] The client supports the open design

[5:09] which best serves the occupants. Uh pri

[5:12] prioritizing the farm workers views

[5:14] towards the field is appropriate we feel

[5:15] for this project. And the following

[5:18] slides illustrate will illustrate the

[5:20] visual impact or lack of of the proposed

[5:23] columns from the street. So, if we go to

[5:25] the next slide,

[5:28] so you'll see the distances to uh Gibson

[5:30] Lane here and to the closest neighbor.

[5:34] Um, and for this western view,

[5:38] the red cone, it's hard to see, but it's

[5:40] there off of Gibson. Um,

[5:44] that's going to be our next uh that's a

[5:46] view in our next slide.

[5:51] You can go to the next slide. Yeah. So

[5:52] that's that's the view from um from from

[5:55] Gibson.

[5:57] So that illustrates this illustrates

[6:00] what we what we showed in plan a second

[6:01] ago here. So next slide.

[6:07] Um

[6:09] so you see that's far far enough from

[6:11] the from the road here. So the proposed

[6:14] sign this is the proposed design is

[6:16] viewed from approximately 500 feet away.

[6:19] Um

[6:26] so the next slide you can go to the next

[6:27] slide

[6:30] » to also illustrate this. This is the

[6:32] same view taken under the morning sun

[6:34] which um with the sun behind the facade

[6:36] in question making the column placement

[6:38] pretty indistinguishable. Next slide.

[6:43] Here are the views with the column and

[6:46] the canal levered corner. uh taken from

[6:49] that west elevation

[6:54] and this is about 100 feet from the

[6:55] house just as a reference.

[6:58] Next slide

[7:02] and these are the views from um I guess

[7:05] well this is the north elevation. Um

[7:12] this is about 75 ft with the column

[7:14] corner and the canal livered corner.

[7:19] The next slide

[7:24] and this is the uh proposed um south

[7:26] elevation that the board requested.

[7:30] This is not visible from Daniel's Lane,

[7:31] but this is the the south elevation with

[7:34] the Canterle corner. And the next slide

[7:37] is with the column.

[7:41] In our view, the added column has little

[7:43] to no visual impact to the neighboring

[7:46] properties.

[7:48] Um, and that's that's it.

[7:52] >> Thank you, Mark.

[7:54] Being able to compare the drawings with

[7:56] and without was extremely helpful for

[7:58] all of you. So, I appreciate that

[8:00] effort.

[8:01] >> Great.

[8:02] >> Does anyone have any thoughts?

[8:03] >> I have a question. Mark, uh, in your

[8:06] beginning you said that the client has

[8:08] approved the overall design. Have you

[8:11] spoken to them directly about the column

[8:13] and are they uh they prefer not having

[8:17] the specific column or is it they just

[8:19] approve the whole design?

[8:23] >> They approved the design. Um, we didn't

[8:25] get into detail about the column but

[8:27] they they rely on us to, you know, for

[8:30] the design and to make that call for for

[8:33] them. Um,

[8:34] >> so they're not they're not aware of our

[8:37] thought to add a column.

[8:40] >> I did send them that note. Yes.

[8:42] >> And what did they say?

[8:45] >> They prefer not to have the column.

[8:49] » Thank you.

[8:57] » Anybody have any thoughts on with or

[8:59] without?

[9:01] >> Not really. Yeah, I'm fine without the

[9:04] column. I'm fine with the column. Either

[9:07] way, it's it works for me. So, whatever.

[9:12] >> I think ultimately it's it's the

[9:14] distance from the view.

[9:16] >> Yeah,

[9:17] >> I think we the presentation did very

[9:20] well to conclude that the candle was

[9:23] superior to it. But again, I just

[9:27] um

[9:30] » I think no

[9:32] in light of the fact that it is all

[9:34] about the view in a in a beautiful

[9:37] location such as this. I I would it's

[9:40] such a minor detail I think

[9:42] architecturally to have the column at it

[9:45] for the grounding which I thought would

[9:47] help. I think it does help but I think

[9:49] also it's not worth it's not enough

[9:52] worth sacrificing a view for your for

[9:54] the people that are inhabiting. So I

[9:57] think we're all fine here on the board

[9:58] with no column. Uh and again I

[10:01] appreciate your

[10:03] >> that motion for us.

[10:05] >> No problem. Appreciate the the

[10:07] opportunity to present it.

[10:09] >> Yeah. Okay. So I'll make a motion to

[10:11] >> second. All in favor?

[10:16] » Thanks Mark.

[10:18] >> Okay. Thank you.

[10:19] >> All right.

[10:24] your sinus

[10:33] making sure

[10:47] we

[10:51] can do

[11:04] I promise

[11:10] you.

[11:30] Y

[11:49] Even if this is

[11:55] true,

[11:57] >> it's the way to answer

[12:00] for next time.

[12:01] >> Yeah.

[12:03] >> All right, we're moving on to 16 Jacob's

[12:06] Way.

[12:09] We're looking at paint colors and

[12:12] chimney

[12:13] in cedar colors.

[12:28] Hi everyone. My name is Nina Gonzalez.

[12:30] I'm here on behalf of um Miss Frober.

[12:32] She can't be here today. Um we dropped

[12:35] off a couple weeks ago uh an updated

[12:37] rendering inclusive of the exterior trim

[12:40] color as well as the chimney selection.

[12:43] Uh I know it was reviewed in the group

[12:45] of two. Um, and I just wanted to answer

[12:47] any questions that you may had uh in

[12:49] that regard

[12:51] because it was brought back from the

[12:53] committee too.

[12:54] >> I had one question. I went to to see the

[12:57] uh blue granite map. Um, you guys have

[13:02] originally were a medival between the u

[13:05] blue granite veneer or the gray stuck.

[13:08] Is that still an either or kind of

[13:10] situation? No, we have um a property

[13:13] right down the road uh that the client

[13:15] tooured that had this exact stone mockup

[13:17] that they fell in love with and they had

[13:18] to

[13:38] » know it's not always

[13:40] accurate. Okay.

[13:51] » Did y'all want to see that?

[14:01] See, to me that feels like a more of a

[14:03] putty color than like a bluestone

[14:07] granite color. They're

[14:11] looking for a monochromatic feeling,

[14:13] which I know you are.

[14:18] This is

[14:20] Charleston gray.

[14:21] >> Yeah, I brought a color sample because

[14:23] the colors doesn't always uh translate

[14:25] to

[14:25] >> Yeah, that's really helpful.

[14:40] I think that just

[14:43] if you look at HC or you look at this

[14:47] okay

[14:59] are you capping it with this this

[15:02] stone here at the top or will it be

[15:06] >> uh that was a sample of the papers for

[15:08] the porch which was just a thermal boost?

[15:14] » Anybody have any comments?

[15:18] » Um the chimney height is going to is it

[15:20] going to breach the apex of the

[15:23] >> Yeah.

[15:28] Can you hear the plants from the other

[15:29] sides of the house?

[15:34] » This is just

[15:36] it doesn't look very tall. It looks like

[15:38] it is taller than

[15:42] have an exterior.

[15:45] >> I don't believe so. So it might just be

[15:46] the angle of the but

[16:19] And you're not doing paint detail around

[16:22] the windows like you had in the other

[16:23] slides. It's just that area, nothing

[16:26] else on the house. Okay.

[16:33] Bless you.

[16:48] So it is taller. I was wrong. Yes.

[16:55] » They typically are in this context, but

[17:13] Okay. Does anybody have any issues with

[17:15] their plans for the stone coloring?

[17:19] >> No, the stone and the paint.

[17:28] » Okay. Thank you. I'll make a motion to

[17:29] approve.

[17:31] >> All in favor? Hi.

[17:33] >> Thank you all. Have a great rest of your

[17:35] day.

[18:19] You step

[18:35] This is

[18:59] Thank you.

[19:15] That's

[19:32] Don't look at the other one.

[19:35] Okay.

[19:51] » Yes. I passed it back this way. I think

[19:53] it's under by your mouse.

[20:01] » Okay.

[20:03] All right. We're moving on to 53 Hedges

[20:05] Lane. An application for Oh,

[20:09] >> that's a journ.

[20:12] So, now we're going to move on to 836

[20:14] Second Street.

[20:24] I think where this is on the map.

[20:39] visible

[20:50] from

[21:08] » afternoon. Thank you members of the

[21:09] board for allowing us to present today

[21:11] for this project. My name is Robert

[21:13] Treasure from Newman Design

[21:15] Architectural Office

[21:17] Treasure T R E D G E R

[21:24] behalf of the owners Mr. Mrs. Mackey uh

[21:27] to present this uh revitalization of

[21:31] this existing home. Our proposal is to

[21:34] provide new siding, roofing, and a few

[21:37] additional windows. And I can walk you

[21:39] through the project and an additional uh

[21:43] front covering to enhance the

[21:45] architectural elements of the existing

[21:47] home.

[21:51] On this floor plan, it's represented for

[21:54] that front entrance, a roof over reverse

[21:56] gable uh at the front entries. You'll

[21:59] see that in the next few slides. And

[22:02] then a few expanded second floor deck uh

[22:06] deck areas to enlarge the area for ex

[22:11] outdoor use.

[22:15] Top slide represents the front of

[22:17] elevation

[22:19] and uh the new siding. Uh we have both

[22:23] horizontal and vertical siding uh

[22:26] presented throughout the new throughout

[22:28] the residence as well as some standing

[22:32] seam roof as an architectural feature on

[22:34] some of those architectural elements

[22:36] throughout the the building in the front

[22:39] over the garage and in the rear areas uh

[22:42] over some of the master bedroom and and

[22:45] other living spaces.

[22:50] That section on the bottom left

[22:51] represents the addition or additional

[22:55] roof area over an existing room that's

[22:57] already existing.

[23:03] These slides represent the existing

[23:04] house on the top the way it's as of

[23:07] today. Uh painted siding on the

[23:10] exterior. The owner wishes to enhance

[23:12] that with cedar uh with reduh red cedar

[23:16] roof shingles and uh the Alaskan yellow

[23:20] cedar for the trim and the siding. And I

[23:22] have samples here if you like to see as

[23:24] well.

[23:26] Uh the uh on the right side where we

[23:29] have the metal standing seam roof that

[23:31] will be a dark bronze standing seam roof

[23:33] color to blend in with the um the color

[23:36] palette that we have.

[23:41] This, as you can see on the bottom slide

[23:44] on the left, uh we removed the roof.

[23:47] We're proposing to remove some of the

[23:48] roof area that is as depicted on the top

[23:52] uh elevation uh to bring in a cable rail

[23:56] system to open up the views to the

[23:58] backyard.

[24:00] That would be on the that um room along

[24:05] the top as you see there. And then a

[24:07] small area on the rear end of one of the

[24:10] bedrooms.

[24:19] So if anyone has any questions or

[24:21] comments, I'd be happy to ask.

[24:34] What's the material on the roof on the

[24:36] bottom left there?

[24:38] >> The bottom left that is the standing

[24:40] seam metal roof.

[24:42] Uh like a dark bronze color.

[24:45] >> And you have samples of that?

[24:47] >> I do not have samples, but it it depicts

[24:49] the same color as the rendering uh for

[24:51] that particular product.

[25:00] Is there another reason for that being

[25:02] metal versus like the others other than

[25:05] aesthetics? Just out of curiosity?

[25:07] >> Yeah, we wanted to enhance the

[25:09] architectural of the the the residence

[25:12] existing residence and bring it up to a

[25:14] nice format um of what the um what we'd

[25:19] like to see in the building. As you you

[25:21] look on the I guess the slide prior, it

[25:24] does balance off between the uh

[25:26] different roof elevations throughout the the building.

[25:31] Those are enhanced rooms and we wanted

[25:33] to give a little more uh architectural

[25:36] element to it.

[25:44] » Is this an old one?

[25:47] >> That looks like an old

[25:56] side.

[25:58] >> Each side of what? I'm sorry. uh each

[25:59] side of the home

[26:02] >> the calculations for the

[26:05] >> uh I do not the only the existing

[26:07] glazing we're going to be replacing some

[26:09] of the windows uh the only glazing that

[26:11] we're changing is the front windows uh

[26:15] by the entrance to the right of the

[26:17] entrance back

[26:19] that

[26:21] if you see on the top slide right next

[26:23] to the left of the garage

[26:26] uh there are small two little windows

[26:28] about looks like 8 in high or 8 in

[26:31] square. And we're adding a few taller

[26:33] windows in that section just next to to

[26:37] the left of the garage.

[26:40] That's the those are the only additional

[26:42] wind as opposed to also the front

[26:44] entrance window. If you see right above

[26:46] the uh center where that reverse gable

[26:50] is pronounced

[26:51] >> in the rear, that's the rear.

[26:52] >> That's the front,

[26:53] >> right? But there are changes in the

[26:55] rear.

[26:59] But but wise there are no additional

[27:03] windows if that's what you were asking

[27:05] in the rear.

[27:11] windows would just be

[27:18] uh in the front to uh right above the

[27:21] entrance door uh behind

[27:24] sort of uh

[27:27] table there. Um is that a outdoor space?

[27:32] >> Uh directly next to the entry store.

[27:34] >> Yeah. Uh directly above the second

[27:36] floor.

[27:36] >> On the second floor.

[27:37] >> Oh yes. That it's not an outdoor space.

[27:39] It's an interior space. It's basically

[27:40] an expansion of an existing room uh to

[27:44] with a reverse gable. It already has a

[27:45] sloped roof in the room. So, we're

[27:48] proposing to put a reverse to

[27:49] >> Oh, so this is a sort of a shed shed

[27:52] dorm room.

[27:54] >> Uh look at the top photo you can see on

[27:56] the like towards the left. That's what

[27:58] it looks like currently where it just

[27:59] sheds down is a that type of roof.

[28:05] » Are there windows there? It's like a

[28:07] wall. Uh there are no windows uh on that

[28:11] center section. Feel like I could walk

[28:14] up to the screen if

[28:21] » So this is the front entrance area.

[28:23] That's the front door. And this roof is

[28:26] the proposed just a reverse gable over

[28:28] the top of this area.

[28:30] >> Oh, no. Right to the left of it.

[28:33] >> This no in between

[28:35] >> above.

[28:37] >> That's existing. This little guy.

[28:39] >> Yeah, that's existing.

[28:40] >> What room is that?

[28:41] >> Uh,

[28:41] >> is that is that a dormer shed out or is

[28:44] it an indentation? It's hard to tell.

[28:45] >> It's an indentation, but I don't know

[28:47] what room it is exactly in that area.

[28:52] >> It does not.

[28:56] » I don't think it's a storage room, but I

[28:59] know it was set back just like it's

[29:02] um there's another photo.

[29:13] It's not a window.

[29:15] >> No, it's not a window.

[29:16] >> It's just a wall.

[29:18] >> Yeah.

[29:19] >> Why? I wonder why it was like that.

[29:23] >> I also feel like I I don't We don't have

[29:26] all the plants. I don't I don't see two

[29:28] other sides of the house

[29:31] >> to look at. I think we'd be able to

[29:33] tell.

[29:38] I mean for renderings and existing

[29:40] photos we have south

[29:42] >> I don't know you could go open the uh

[29:45] elevations if it's not on the renderings

[29:47] I think we have three renderings of the

[29:48] building um there's another side

[29:52] we could I could show you that on the

[29:54] elevator

[29:57] >> we have a west elevation

[29:59] >> A7

[30:02] I say

[30:14] A3

[30:16] side of the uh

[30:23] on the bottom.

[30:45] Did you asking percentages?

[30:47] >> Yeah, we don't doesn't have any blazing

[30:53] percentage.

[30:58] » I think we need a little bit more

[30:59] information.

[31:00] >> Okay.

[31:01] >> We would love to see what the glazing

[31:04] percentage is of the existing house and

[31:06] then a new glazing

[31:08] percentage for the plants that you have

[31:11] and then if it's possible not too much

[31:14] to ask the rendering of the east and

[31:16] west sides

[31:18] >> we have a west side

[31:19] >> there's a west elev

[31:20] >> I mean elevations we have

[31:22] >> uh the rendering is

[31:24] >> the last page

[31:26] >> the west

[31:30] sorry

[31:32] >> you like to see an east uh render

[31:35] all sides

[31:46] and the glazing differences.

[31:48] >> Yes, I will uh

[31:50] have that calculated and then like I

[31:52] mentioned there's two windows basically

[31:55] where I

[31:59] feel like there's more but it's just

[32:01] hard to see with the before and after

[32:04] photos. Um, when I look at every before

[32:08] and after,

[32:10] I feel like there are differences.

[32:14] Um,

[32:15] >> but regardless, just to know what that

[32:17] difference is.

[32:18] >> Absolutely.

[32:19] >> Um, in general, I mean, I think you

[32:23] know,

[32:24] >> I think you've done a good job of

[32:26] updating this home. Where is the house

[32:30] built?

[32:30] >> I'm not sure exactly, but I know it's a number of years. It's

[32:34] >> 80s, I believe. 80s

[32:41] » from an 80s house to the makeover. I'd

[32:43] say it's

[32:45] >> the land of tea house. It's nice to see

[32:48] some lay hands.

[32:49] >> Right. Right.

[32:51] >> That's a question about the plantings

[32:53] around it because where sit when you go

[32:56] in the driveway, their houses on either

[32:58] side and it's rimmed in I guess privet

[33:02] or something. So when you plan to build

[33:05] it, you'll just go right in the driveway

[33:08] and remove any of the of the trees or

[33:12] anything just

[33:13] >> There was no indication to me that they

[33:15] were going to remove, but we could

[33:17] definitely speak to that. I I'll ask

[33:19] again if there was any

[33:21] three or four houses in that area that I

[33:24] think you could disrupt them.

[33:25] >> Oh, if they remove

[33:29] mention of that.

[33:32] Yeah.

[33:34] The only other comment I think I'd make

[33:36] is maybe consider not glass for the

[33:39] garage doors.

[33:47] Yes, that was to bring up a little bit

[33:49] of more contemporary feel to the uh the

[33:52] design of

[33:54] um

[33:56] I think the garage we're facing the side

[33:59] with a lot of you know screening maybe

[34:01] but I think you know we leave the lights

[34:03] on and it's tidy in there and it's a lot

[34:06] of extra glazing that we don't maybe is

[34:08] not the place where you want to have use

[34:10] those numbers. U that's just a request

[34:14] from myself personally.

[34:16] And then if you could come back to us

[34:18] with the color of the trim

[34:22] seems

[34:23] I know renderings are the color would

[34:26] all be the same material. So there was

[34:29] this is white

[34:31] and yellow feeder with the trim and

[34:34] >> so it's not paint.

[34:35] >> No

[34:36] it'll blend in. Okay.

[34:43] What else I need comments?

[34:46] >> I mean, still a little confusion with

[34:48] the roof lines and the facade, but it

[34:52] not from the historical preservation

[34:54] committee. That doesn't make a

[34:56] difference. Um, no, I think I think it's

[34:59] again it's commendable that we have a

[35:02] lot of people tearing things down,

[35:04] right?

[35:05] >> Understood. But it's nice to see this

[35:07] and

[35:08] >> yeah, they love the house. They just

[35:09] wanted to upgrade it to uh bring it to a

[35:11] nice architectural element.

[35:13] >> And normally we do like continuity of of

[35:15] uh roof structure, but here it does

[35:18] actually help I think break it up and

[35:20] >> Right.

[35:22] >> I agree.

[35:26] So do you have a clear picture of what

[35:29] we need for next round? Yes, I've taken

[35:31] some notes and I will provide uh some

[35:34] information and some feedback from

[35:36] ownership if we need to and and our our

[35:38] office.

[35:40] >> That' be great.

[35:40] >> Thank you so much.

[35:41] >> Thank you. That was very

[35:58] second. paper.

[36:09] Okay. To the driveway gates at 511

[36:14] Daniel.

[36:30] Good afternoon. My name is Shannon

[36:32] Bradley and I'm the owner of Hampton's

[36:34] Permit and Expediting which is located

[36:36] at 16 Window Lane in Southampton, New

[36:38] York. I'm here today representing STEM

[36:41] Partners LLC in connection with an

[36:43] application before the Syoponic

[36:45] Architectural Review Board for approval

[36:47] of a proposed automatic driveway gate

[36:50] for 511 Daniels Lane, Sagoponic, New

[36:54] York. Proposed gate will be set

[36:56] approximately 40 ft from the roadway. It

[36:59] will be constructed of western red cedar

[37:01] S4S vertical grade material and will be

[37:05] approximately 4 ft in height and 16 ft 3

[37:09] in in width. The gate will attach to two

[37:12] 8 in posts, one on each side, which will

[37:15] also be construction of Western.

[37:18] As part of this application, I have

[37:20] provided the most updated survey showing

[37:23] the proposed location of the automated

[37:24] driveway gate along with a color

[37:26] rendering of the gate and a drafted shot

[37:29] drawing illustrating the dimensions,

[37:31] columns, footings, control panel, and

[37:34] keycap. The gate has been designed by

[37:36] East End Automation, which is a company

[37:38] that has designed and installed numerous

[37:41] gates

[37:43] within the village of Sanaponic. East

[37:45] End Automation is familiar with the

[37:46] design standards standards material

[37:49] expectations and building code

[37:51] requirements applicable to automated

[37:54] driveway gates in the village. The

[37:56] proposed scheme has been designed to be

[37:58] cohesive with the character of the

[38:00] neighborhood while maintaining a high

[38:01] level of quality and workmanship. The

[38:03] use of western red cedar and the

[38:05] proposed scale are intended to

[38:07] complement the surrounding property and

[38:09] remain consistent with Sagoponic's

[38:11] architectural expectations. I appreciate

[38:14] the board's time and attention to this

[38:16] application and I'm happy to answer any

[38:18] questions.

[38:19] >> Thank you.

[38:21] for paying attention to the

[38:24] style guide to the gates and if you

[38:27] could maybe just go back to the

[38:28] overview. Yes. Can you point to us where

[38:31] the gates going and show and tell us if

[38:34] there are other gates already existing

[38:35] on the

[38:36] >> There aren't other gates already

[38:37] existing and it should be 40 ft long.

[38:40] >> Yes, there are.

[38:41] >> There are gates. Sure.

[38:43] >> At the main entrance as you come back to

[38:45] the one where the residential part of

[38:47] the property starts,

[38:48] >> but not Okay. The 40 ft in is where the

[38:51] proposed. So,

[38:52] >> and at the end of that flag when you

[38:54] come back towards the house, there's

[38:55] another driveway

[38:56] >> here, right?

[38:57] >> Yeah.

[38:58] >> Okay. So, I I misunderstood the

[39:00] question. I thought you meant off the

[39:01] roadway. I apologize. So, off the

[39:03] roadway, this is the gate that they're

[39:05] proposing. And the reason that it's 40

[39:07] ft back, it says per code, any lot over

[39:10] 40,000 square feet has to have a

[39:12] driveway accessory gate set back 40

[39:15] instead of 20. So that's basically what

[39:18] we're proposing. Um re placed on the

[39:21] survey so that we meet that minimum.

[39:23] Okay. And what is the need for the gate?

[39:26] >> Uh they stated privacy. Uh they wanted

[39:30] the gate for security and privacy. It's

[39:32] really

[39:34] basically the only reasons that they

[39:35] stated

[39:38] >> need a a solid reason and it's hard to

[39:41] find a reason that the other gate

[39:44] doesn't already sort of fulfill the

[39:45] needs of

[39:46] >> I guess from the roadway with all the um

[39:49] I mean there's just such an influx of

[39:52] vehicles and traffic and whatnot more

[39:54] than what any of us are used to in this

[39:56] area especially I mean I grew up out

[39:58] here and it's just something that they

[40:00] really want on a request from you know

[40:03] request approval for. So it does it does

[40:07] serve a different purpose than the gate

[40:09] that's so far in.

[40:16] I do have to say and I don't know but

[40:17] there are a lot of other I don't like to

[40:20] compare and I don't like to give out

[40:22] addresses but there are a lot of other

[40:24] gates on by um Daniel's path that are

[40:26] located in the exact location that this

[40:29] gate is being proposed. Um it is with

[40:33] very nice material. Next, definitely.

[40:37] >> And those gates, are they with open

[40:40] fields or are the gates that you're

[40:42] referring to kind of behind uh greenery?

[40:47] >> At this time, what we're proposing is

[40:49] all open. If you would prefer screening,

[40:51] we could

[40:53] >> the president the gate precedence

[40:57] near there. I don't see any gates at

[40:59] least with the open fields. Uh,

[41:04] I really don't want to compare to other

[41:05] houses, but there are other there's five

[41:08] that I could

[41:11] has a bunch of

[41:12] >> but that's got trees in front. So there

[41:14] this property I I know there

[41:20] >> because of the beautiful um wild flowers

[41:23] and things like that that they plant.

[41:26] It's a different look in that specific

[41:28] location. Not saying it's bad or good,

[41:30] but I think we should be realistic that area will change with those gates,

[41:35] >> right? I do I do think I mean my

[41:38] personal opinion is that the standards

[41:40] that you put forth already in your code

[41:43] to help preserve the beauty of the

[41:46] property. It's the opakeness and

[41:48] openness that you guys command in your

[41:51] code, the height restriction, a lot of

[41:53] things that you already prepare for that

[41:55] people need definitely helps. not block

[41:59] beautiful views. So that's the only

[42:01] thing I could speak to for that. But

[42:03] it's really we're here to see what your

[42:05] thoughts are and see if you would, you

[42:07] know, prove it's

[42:10] take any any comments and there's

[42:12] anything at all that we could do

[42:13] differently. Definitely

[42:16] would like to hear it. I mean, I think

[42:18] in this area and in this case, you know,

[42:23] there are probably a lot of, to use

[42:26] term, looks,

[42:27] >> right? People who want to see it closer,

[42:29] right? And I'm sure that's what they're

[42:32] trying to

[42:32] >> There's a lot. Yes.

[42:34] >> Not have happened.

[42:35] >> Okay. Um, so I think

[42:38] you know

[42:40] the two gate thing is not what we would

[42:43] really prefer

[42:47] but I do understand the circumstances.

[42:48] Does anybody have any other thoughts?

[42:52] >> I feel like if we're trying to avoid

[42:53] precedence of gates then having a

[42:57] president of two gates means that

[42:59] especially one at 40 ft would serve as

[43:02] more of an amorphous buffer to specific

[43:05] uh pet, kids, that kind of thing.

[43:08] >> Yeah.

[43:09] >> Um

[43:12] you know, could I argue that my 8 foot

[43:14] driveway I want a gate because it's wide

[43:16] enough for every corner doing the turn.

[43:24] » But by code, it meets where it needs to

[43:26] be. The code is set up and this is not

[43:29] it's just 20 ft. off of any lot less

[43:33] than 1,000 square ft and maybe

[43:36] >> maybe you're correct. Maybe I'll make a

[43:39] suggestion then to move their existing

[43:41] gate.

[43:42] >> Okay.

[43:43] >> That way we wouldn't be setting up the

[43:45] two gates are okay. Um how does anybody

[43:50] feel about

[43:52] that? Not that

[43:53] >> also it seems maybe 100 to 150 feet in.

[43:57] Uh, I'm not sure if it's really help

[43:58] that much, but there is already an

[44:00] existing sort of uh turnout area.

[44:04] >> Okay.

[44:04] >> Um, so maybe

[44:07] >> Yeah. I'm not sure that makes it much

[44:08] better seeing a gate off of the

[44:09] distance.

[44:10] >> It does actually

[44:12] farther away.

[44:14] >> Yeah.

[44:15] >> So then maybe moving it not to 40 feet,

[44:17] but moving it to where Tony said there's

[44:19] a turn around.

[44:21] >> So how far you could give like how far

[44:24] Can I go back up? Yeah. How far would

[44:26] you want it? Moved in so

[44:30] >> I didn't take a picture of it. Um, but

[44:32] there's already an existing um sort of

[44:35] uh towards the west side of the uh of

[44:37] the driveway. Okay.

[44:39] >> There's a little indentation a little uh

[44:41] almost like

[44:42] >> circular area where there's existing

[44:45] more asphalt looks like for someone to

[44:47] turn a truck around.

[44:49] >> Okay. And one of the big things is is

[44:50] when someone approaches a gate um you

[44:53] know say an unrequited

[44:55] uh UPS guy comes he's backing out there

[44:58] and that's

[44:59] >> so to be able to have a way for him to

[45:02] go in and turn around and come back.

[45:04] >> Okay. So more width to be able to move

[45:07] understand that point completely. Okay.

[45:09] So

[45:20] » thoughts on

[45:20] >> So you're just you're just you're saying

[45:23] push the gate further back but still but

[45:27] that other gate still going to be there?

[45:30] >> No,

[45:31] >> I don't think we want two gates. I don't

[45:32] think we should allow two gates uh as a

[45:35] president. And I think well I understand

[45:37] the situation. They don't want people

[45:39] driving all the way down to look into

[45:41] their land where they're living.

[45:43] >> That's basically

[45:45] >> and I I completely understand that. And

[45:46] so I just think not that we want to gate

[45:48] in the middle of nowhere, right? I mean

[45:50] it certainly probably makes more sense

[45:51] toward the street.

[45:52] >> Would you like influencers where there's

[45:54] wild flowers are out or there's just

[45:56] people getting lost? I

[45:57] >> mean anybody like wanting to

[46:00] >> Yeah, they like to apparently drive in

[46:02] and then get as close as they can which

[46:04] is the gate. it's further in and then

[46:06] they they really do they they impede

[46:09] themselves onto other people's property

[46:12] and just say it how it is and then you

[46:14] know turn around and leave the property.

[46:17] So these particular homeowners wanted to

[46:20] see if they could put a second gate

[46:23] closer to the road and you know prevent

[46:26] that from happening. So I I mean I guess

[46:29] it's happening a lot enough to be able

[46:31] to have me come here and request this

[46:33] from Yeah.

[46:35] understand.

[46:40] Yeah, I agree. I think push back a bit,

[46:43] which is good. I think it's still open,

[46:45] but still be able to see it.

[46:47] >> Okay.

[46:48] >> I can see the gate at their house kind

[46:50] of now back there, but I I understand

[46:54] it's not that easy to see.

[46:56] >> Okay.

[47:00] » So, I would agree with um this gentleman

[47:03] here. Okay.

[47:05] >> Where they can turn around because

[47:06] otherwise they have to back all the way

[47:08] up which

[47:09] >> Yeah. There was a turning spot there.

[47:11] >> Yeah. And they still be able to see it

[47:13] clearly

[47:15] which is losing the gate or

[47:20] it's not the building.

[47:26] » I'm surprised they go down there.

[47:29] >> I know.

[47:30] >> I'm really surp I've never seen car.

[47:33] Yeah. No, I hear you. I'm not I'm not

[47:35] challenging. I'm just

[47:37] >> nothing more embarrassing than back

[47:41] windows.

[47:41] >> So, the two things that I'm coming back

[47:43] with would be to move the gate to a more

[47:45] open with area where the turnound is

[47:49] >> and definitely to remove the second

[47:51] gate.

[47:51] >> Yes.

[47:52] >> Okay.

[47:56] Understand. Is there any is

[47:59] everything else okay? Design good.

[48:02] >> Design's good. Thank you so much.

[48:03] >> All right. Thank you.

[48:04] >> Thank you.

[48:05] >> Nice to be here. Have a good day.

[48:07] >> You too.

[48:10] » So, I'll make a motion to adjourn.

[48:14] >> Second.

[48:19] Stand up on the darest.

[48:43] » Yeah.

[48:47] See how we close.

[48:51] » So we'll

[48:53] select our committee of two for

[48:55] September

[49:01] » committee of September.

[49:05] >> Is anybody want to volunteer? Do you

[49:06] want to do

[49:13] » I don't think we have anything. We don't

[49:14] have anything yet, but sometimes they

[49:16] come up in the middle and they're simple

[49:17] one.

[49:19] >> All right. And our next meeting date is

[49:21] September 28th at noon.

[49:28] » Anybody need a public hearing on

[49:29] anything before we close?

[49:31] >> Okay. All right. Make a motion to

[49:34] meeting. Second. All in favor? Hi.

[49:37] >> Hi.

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