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[8:58] All right. Apologies for the technical difficulties. Um, so the interpreter

[9:03] didn't hear my earlier [clears throat] comments, so I'll repeat those for the

[9:07] record and then there'll be translation. >> All right.

[9:11] So, thank you, Chair Deviti. Um before we begin, we would like to announce

[9:21] » change.

[9:25] » One moment while we change channel.

[9:35] All right. Apologies for that. Um so we would like to announce this

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[12:22] » Okay, great. Thank you for that. Uh, are there any reports from our staff

[12:25] leaison? >> Yes, good evening. Thank you, Chair

[12:30] Dviti. I'm uh happy to report on a couple updates for the committee. First,

[12:35] I want to report on the SAFE's team quarter 2 stats. Uh, SAFE responded to

[12:42] 684 calls for service, which is about it's a

[12:46] little over 8% of all the calls during quarter 2 of 2026. And on average, SAFE

[12:52] is handling about one out of every 11 calls for service.

[12:58] Uh recruitment and personnel update. Uh we currently have five recruits in the

[13:03] police academy. Um we have one is a couple of two of them are scheduled to

[13:09] graduate very soon this month and then three more in December. Um we have four

[13:14] openings which right now um we are looking really good because we do have

[13:19] some people in backgrounds and as you know the background process takes a

[13:21] while so it's not guaranteed but we are looking at getting fully staff with the

[13:25] goal being fully staffed in 2027. Um awards and commendations. I do uh I'd

[13:33] love to I'm glad to report out that in July um two of our officers were honored

[13:38] by the Mothers Against Drunk Driving um for their dedication in DUI enforcement.

[13:44] Both officers led the Sanfell Police Department in identifying and arresting

[13:47] impaired drivers, demonstrating their commitment to keeping the community

[13:51] safe. Complaints update. So, um this would be

[13:57] the report out for a year to date or at least as of July 1st. Um we've had 16

[14:03] complaints. Um the average complaint time is 20 to from intake to completion

[14:09] is 20 days. Um 11 them 11 of them were procedural complaints, five were conduct

[14:15] complaints. We have two sustained complaints, two were exonerated, six

[14:21] unfounded, five not sustained, and one was incomplete. Just a reminder, an

[14:26] incomplete is where somebody calls and makes the report and then we try to do

[14:30] follow-up. This could be one way it could be incomplete. We've tried, we

[14:33] tried, we tried and they no longer wish to cooperate and there's no way that we

[14:37] can complete the report. It's not enough information.

[14:40] Um, reminder about the upcoming Spanish Police Academy. It is August 26th

[14:46] through October 28th. So, we do have a a full um

[14:51] curriculum. we have a full um class. Um but I just want to remind the the

[14:57] committee that it is going to be going on um applications already closed and

[15:05] that is it. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Thank you, Lieutenant Everly.

[15:10] I [clears throat] will now like to ask the committee for reports from each

[15:13] member. I will start with member Camina, please.

[15:17] » Thank you. >> I'm not sure. Um yes um this um month

[15:24] and two months actually since we had time off I celebrated Junth on on the

[15:29] 19th of June with some members of the black community. On the 24th I attended

[15:35] although briefly the voices of canal wonderful event that our member Darlene

[15:40] and friends put on in the canal. I um dropped by the centerfall high school

[15:44] truck day and um also did some national night out with neighbors. So that's my

[15:51] my report for the time. Thank [clears throat] you.

[15:54] » Thank you very much. Uh let's go to member Newan, please.

[16:00] » I don't have any report. >> Okay. Thank you, member Rodas.

[16:06] » I have no reports. >> Thank you. Uh member Ruiz.

[16:14] Yes, I have I have many but I want to I have a

[16:22] meeting in July 25 about immigration and uh multicultural

[16:29] was very important for our community in canal and the other uh we had a national

[16:37] out with poses canal and canal. Thank you so much for uh everybody coming stay

[16:43] with us. Thank you. That's it. >> Thank you. Uh member Tokahi,

[16:50] » just a quick one last two weeks just uh word of mouth inviting a lot of the

[16:56] community's folks to our meetings. Um especially in the canal. Um,

[17:03] but I think moving forward I'm going to I'm going to ask the the the committee

[17:10] if if we can have sort like a a drafted flyer with all the dates of our

[17:16] remainders, you know, of our meeting remainders. So when we do outreach um

[17:22] just to pass it on to people um with also word of mouth just we we want to

[17:28] see we want to see our folks here too you know to come to because it's a

[17:33] meeting for them. So >> thank you. Thank you sir. Alterate

[17:37] member locks.

[17:42] » Oh kiddo um I attended the canal alliance meeting

[17:47] and that or community community gathering and that was like I

[17:53] had a lot of good company but I had excellent food. Yes, much excellent food

[17:58] and that was June 24th. And then I wanted to say that um on uh July 19th

[18:06] that I wanted to commend um I had called for a safety check for a friend in West

[18:14] End West End San Rafll and I wanted to commend Sergeant Scott.

[18:20] Is that how you pronounce his name? Engles

[18:23] who uh attended this residence with me and

[18:28] we had to take care of a friend who was found down who is in rehab now. And uh I

[18:34] like to bring forward good things as well as things that need uh constructive

[18:39] criticisms for. And I just wanted to say thank you that I'm going to be doing the

[18:44] Nicole virtual training on September 23rd and December 10th and that the

[18:51] annual Nicole event this year will be in um November. November. Yeah, November.

[19:00] Uh in but that will be in Louisville, Kentucky. So, I won't be attending that

[19:04] one, you know. And um let's see. I think I think that's all for now. I think

[19:10] there'll be maybe time to comment further when we get into some of the

[19:14] » the communications and things. Thank you.

[19:17] » Thank you very much. Alternate member Valdez. Um um I I was absent on a June

[19:24] meeting, but I went to a meeting similar like uh Darling mentioned and I learned

[19:29] a lot at that meeting because uh I I could like

[19:35] I sorry I have to yeah they explain all what the Marine Response Network do and

[19:43] it's a lot because they they help the families with the that are facing rep

[19:48] deportation or separation with event and other other

[19:52] a lot of services and they work with another agencies and nonprofits too.

[19:58] Also that day I shared the document that staff prepare about fire police

[20:03] department collaborating with ICE. On June 24 I was part of the oral board

[20:09] interview for a dispatcher. I also attended the awas frescas with a cup um

[20:16] bosses the canal and On August 4, I visited some of the

[20:22] stations for National Night Out. Thank you.

[20:26] » Thank you. Uh and as for me, um I went and attended uh the event at the

[20:31] Pickleweed Park for the World Cup soccer final game. It was really nice to be

[20:36] amongst the community in the canal. Uh just to be around people, just unite

[20:40] over uh something that big. Um I attended Touch a Truck event. I was at

[20:46] the coffee with the cup and I noticed that uh Mr. Tokahi and also Newman were

[20:51] also there and encourage more of us to attend at the future uh coffee with a

[20:56] cup uh event. I also uh discovered this new organization called Karma Club. Also

[21:02] have an organization called Cove. They're both uh connected. It's an

[21:05] afterchool program for kids. It's a drop in. It's free. It's a place for kids to

[21:10] hang out after school. They get tutoring. They get a place to eat. uh

[21:15] it's a place to connect uh and it's at free of charge and it's in the Northgate

[21:19] mall so it was nice to see that space get filled with people coming together

[21:23] and that will conclude uh my report and uh next I will see if are there any

[21:30] public comments on the staff and the community leaison

[21:44] Hello everyone. Nice to see you. Hope you're having a good summer. It was nice

[21:48] to have a month off. Hope you enjoyed that as well. Um I wanted to say that

[21:54] the updates are still kind of hard to follow around the complaints and that's

[21:58] one of the major reasons you all are here. um to look into complaints to see

[22:03] how the community is feeling about the police department. I heard buried in

[22:07] there that two were sustained, but we don't know what that means. Like we

[22:12] don't know, was that a policy violation? Was that a misconduct violation? Um so I

[22:18] think it makes sense for you all to know what those are when they investigate

[22:21] themselves and they find that something has been violated or something has been

[22:26] done that's not in alignment with department values. That's the kind of

[22:29] thing you all are here um to investigate. And I didn't hear any

[22:34] questions about that or any clarification on that. I still feel like

[22:37] that's a laundry list that's hard to write down and hard to follow. And I

[22:41] know it's posted on the website, but that also is what I call a nothing

[22:45] sandwich. It doesn't tell you anything. So, please ask questions and get more

[22:50] more information. I was happy to hear tonight that a lot of you in your

[22:53] updates did talk about policing related things

[22:58] um that you attended um because that and if you if your

[23:06] outreach is to tell people to come to this meeting where y'all haven't done a

[23:10] lot I don't know what the purpose of that is but I would say if you're

[23:13] talking to people and inviting them here you can surely bring their concerns here

[23:18] » because as we've said before a lot of people feel intimidated to come into

[23:23] city hall to a committee that sits on a dis where there are police in the room

[23:28] the chief lieutenant um and so bring their concerns here that's what you all

[23:33] are supposed to be doing thank you oh and one more thing that dropin place for

[23:37] kids is 13 and up so it's not like little kids it's teenagers I believe

[23:42] » yes thank you for clarifying Okay.

[23:52] Okay. Um I will now go to Terresa. Do we have any public comment via Zoom?

[23:58] » We do not. >> Okay. Uh there's no So I will close

[24:02] public comment. Um

[24:07] I'd like to Are there any questions on the draft from minutes from the

[24:10] committee? I will ask in this order. Member Camino.

[24:15] No questions. I did review them. >> Thank you. Uh, member Newan,

[24:19] » no question. >> Member Rodas,

[24:22] » no questions. >> Member Ruiz,

[24:24] » no questions. >> Member Tokahi,

[24:26] » no questions. >> Alternate member locks,

[24:29] » no questions. >> No questions.

[24:31] » Thank you. Alternate member Valdez, >> no questions.

[24:34] » And I have no questions. Um, are there any public comments on the draft

[24:40] minutes?

[24:44] I >> from the committee. Yeah. Public

[24:47] comments on draft minutes. I don't I don't see any. I will go to uh Teresa.

[24:52] Are there any public comment via Zoom?

[24:57] » No. >> No. Okay. I will close public comment. I

[25:02] will ask are there any comments from the committee in this order? Uh member

[25:06] Camino. >> No comments. Thank you.

[25:10] » Member Newan. No comment. >> Member Rolas.

[25:14] » No comments. >> Member Ruiz.

[25:16] » No comments. >> Member Tokahi.

[25:19] » No comments. >> Alter. Member Locks.

[25:23] » My only comments are I have reviewed minutes from a variety of committees

[25:31] uh in San Rafll and throughout the county. And even though there is this

[25:36] style of minute taking, I feel that our minutes

[25:43] don't always reflect what has occurred. And I would like to

[25:50] have us uh work on that or look at some other um examples of minute uh minutes

[25:58] that are provided throughout San Rafll and the county. even though we are

[26:02] following the um the BCC guidelines.

[26:08] » Thank you. Uh alternate member Valdez. >> No comments.

[26:12] » And I have no comments. Uh I would like to ask for a motion to accept the

[26:17] meeting minutes. Uh can I ask for a second?

[26:23] » Second. Did someone >> I'm sorry.

[26:27] » I need a motion. So we could Okay. May I ask a question?

[26:31] » Yes.

[26:35] » Are there seven regular members present? That was what I was going to ask. And if

[26:39] any of the alternatives are doing any votes today. Thank you.

[26:43] » Thank you for that question. So, member locks, you'll be voting in place of

[26:46] member Alm who's absent today. >> Okay. Thank you for clarifying that. I

[26:51] would like to ask for a motion to accept the meeting minutes.

[26:54] » Motion to approve. >> Okay. Can I ask for a second?

[26:57] » I second. >> Okay. No, let's throw it to member

[27:00] locks. Thanks for seconding that. U I would like to ask staff for roll call,

[27:05] please. >> All right, member locks.

[27:09] » Yes. >> Member Kamina,

[27:12] » yes. Approved. >> Member Nuen,

[27:14] » yes. >> Rodas,

[27:16] » yes. >> Member Ruiz,

[27:18] » yes. >> Member Tokahi,

[27:20] » approved. >> And Chair Devidi,

[27:22] » yes. >> And that motion passes.

[27:24] » Thank you so much. Uh, I'd like to invite public comments. Are there any

[27:27] public comments on any matter that's not listed on the agenda?

[27:41] [clears throat]

[27:43] Hello. Hello again everyone. Um I just you have in your packet my ongoing list

[27:50] of things. I feel like this meeting is one and done each time and we don't

[27:56] circle back um to things that have been left open and I would get a bad

[28:02] performance review at work if I did that like it feels like things just float off

[28:08] into the sunset. So there are things that have

[28:13] come we have talked about. I mean you can read it if you want. I hope you

[28:18] will. Um police culture is something that has been talked about since the

[28:23] beginning. Your committee could say to the chief, I want you to go back and

[28:28] talk to your union and see about doing a survey to find out how your officers

[28:34] feel about the culture, how they would describe the culture. you could, you're

[28:39] allowed to ask him to do that. And he's been, he

[28:44] has offered many times to just ask me or get involved or take action outside of

[28:49] this meeting. Um, the newly formed Civilian Oversight Commission for the

[28:55] Sheriff's Office has formed a bunch of ad hoc committees to look into things,

[29:00] to look at flock camera usage, um, to look at what's going on in the

[29:07] department, um, so that they can make recommendations in partnership with the

[29:12] community to make it better for everyone, which is what what you're here

[29:17] for. Um I did also want to bring attention to the great presentation we

[29:23] had at the last meeting um from youth transforming justice. Um and to kind of

[29:31] tell you committee member tookai that I think the comment that you made was

[29:36] reckless about youth crime spiking and it was also false. I did research after

[29:43] we left. I think when you have a position of power being on this

[29:46] committee and you say things like that that aren't true, it's reckless. And if

[29:50] you have data to prove what you said, because I have data to prove it's false,

[29:54] please share it with me. >> Thank you.

[30:04] » Good evening, committee members. Um, I don't have much to say other than if

[30:10] someone asked me what the pack does, I wouldn't know how to respond to that

[30:16] because I'm not quite sure what it is you guys do except meet here

[30:22] um, however often it is that you meet here monthly, I think it is. And but

[30:26] other than that, it's like what what are you guys doing? And so for me it gets

[30:31] really frustrating because it just seems like this has become a performative

[30:36] committee like oh yeah here we are you know accountability collaboration with

[30:41] the community but I don't know if you guys are really doing that and like

[30:46] Heidi said um there's a civilian oversight commission which I serve as

[30:50] vice chair. I'm speaking in my own capacity today but when something gets

[30:55] brought up to us we form a subcommittee. We might not have all the answers, but

[30:59] we're going to go find answers. We're going to talk to people. We're going to

[31:02] talk to subject matter experts and get more information to formulate a either a

[31:08] recommendation if need be or just a report back to the public that's

[31:12] bringing concerns to us. And I suggest that you guys utilize that. You know,

[31:19] maybe all of you don't have time to do all of the work, but in little groups,

[31:23] you guys could do a lot. Thank you. >> Thank you so much.

[31:28] I see no further public comment. Uh M Teresa, is there anything on

[31:33] » We have no comments online. >> Okay. Uh let me just do that. Okay. I

[31:37] will now close uh public comment. And before we move to regular agenda, let's

[31:43] break to toggle the interpreters.

[32:07] Okay, we can proceed.

[32:48] Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Now for the big

[32:52] attraction here. Um our agenda today is homelessness. And I will ask Teresa to

[32:56] introduce our uh presenters, please. >> Sure. Good evening, Cheriti and fellow

[33:00] pack members uh to bring some historical context to the topic this evening. It's

[33:06] an update on homelessness. As you recall, at the January 10th, 2026 study

[33:11] session, the committee identified party topics for the year, one of which was

[33:15] homelessness. This is a followup additionally to the original

[33:19] presentation that was provided in October of 2024 and again with an update

[33:24] that was received May 21st of 2025. This evening we have community services

[33:28] director Daniel Coopermanman and Lyn Murphy mental health liaison here to

[33:33] present in more detail on the topic. So at this time I'll turn the presentation

[33:37] over to those folks. Thank you.

[33:44] » Good evening. Thank you for having us. It's nice to see you. It does not feel

[33:48] like it was over a year ago that we were here talking about homelessness, but um

[33:53] nice to see you again.

[33:57] » [clears throat] >> All right, and we'll jump right into it.

[34:00] We have a brief presentation and slide deck for you guys tonight. And let's get

[34:05] going if I can. There we go. Um, so just for a

[34:10] little background context, uh, in front of you here, we have the 2024 point in

[34:15] time count. Um, there is a caveat. Obviously, we're in 2026 right now. And

[34:20] so, um, the county led the 2026 point in time count and we're expecting those

[34:26] results to come out very shortly, potentially this month, if not next. Um,

[34:32] so the data is old. Um, but what you see in front of you is a little over a

[34:36] thousand folks um unsheltered within the county um with over 300 of them

[34:43] sheltered. Um, the the rest of them living in a place not meant for human

[34:47] habitation. Um you can see San Rafale has 326 out of those 1090 within the

[34:54] county and then um also in front of you Nevada's numbers um with the other large

[35:00] population coming from unincorporated Marin County. Um, as you can see,

[35:05] there's a decrease in chronically homeless individuals as that's been a

[35:09] main focus um in the homeless response system, as well as a 32% decrease in

[35:17] homeless veterans across the county. Um, and so for those who aren't familiar,

[35:21] the point in time count is sort of the main data point for how we measure

[35:26] how the homeless response system is doing. Um it's not it's conducted

[35:31] throughout the country in every county. Um some entities do it every year, but

[35:37] most entities do it every other year. Um and so that's what led to the 2026

[35:41] count. Um it's not a perfect count by any means. Uh it's a one it's a snapshot

[35:48] point in time as it alludes to. Um and so there's different ideologies about

[35:53] how accurate it is to the total number. um as well as you know the es and flows

[35:59] throughout the year. So that's that data and then on to um our response within

[36:05] the city. Many of you already know that uh in

[36:11] 2024, October of 2024, we stood up the sanctioned camping area or the SCA

[36:18] um on the northern part of Mahome Creek Path. Uh it's right near the Sprouts um

[36:23] shopping center. Um this is our interim transitional shelter. Um we've got 55

[36:32] tent cubicles. So they are more like a room than a tent. They do not have any

[36:38] domed ceilings. So when you walk in your cubicle you can stand upright.

[36:43] Um onsite we've got 24/7 um security uh site management that

[36:51] provides um transportation for people who need to go to a service. Um they

[36:57] transport to um medical appointments, treatment appointments, mental health

[37:02] appointments. They've been a fantastic partner to us. They've built a lot of

[37:07] community within the members um living on site. They hold weekly town hall

[37:12] meetings um which gives people living at the sea the opportunity to bring

[37:18] concerns to the site management um and it's an opportunity for people to just

[37:26] gather together in a social way. They have pizza um and they can advocate for

[37:32] for what they want on site. Um, we also have case management for

[37:39] everybody who's living in the SCA. That case management, you might remember, is

[37:44] that it's like the guiding hand um to help folks get all of their documents

[37:50] ready to help them um move through the process to get into housing.

[37:56] Um the next step post uh FCA is our interim

[38:04] shelter at 350 Midale, which Daniel's going to talk about in more detail. Um

[38:10] we will have uh actual cabins with roofs and doors that lock with electricity,

[38:20] air conditioning, and heating. Um the schedule is

[38:27] looking like Well, I'll let Daniel get to that. We're a little behind schedule.

[38:32] Um the target to open is still fall of

[38:36] 2026. Uh everybody who is at the sanctioned camping area is eligible to

[38:41] move into the Midell site. Um and people are excited about it. It's um it's

[38:47] definitely a big step up being able to have a door that locks um and have

[38:54] power. We'll have office space. Um we'll have a little substation for patrol on

[39:01] site. Um so that's coming together. Um the plan to transition up to Midale is

[39:09] to move people in smaller groups. So we're not taking 55 people all at one

[39:15] time. So we'll move I don't think we've determined the number but let's say 8 to

[39:21] 10 at a time to get people moved up in a in a very thoughtful

[39:29] organized fashion. Not just okay here we go. Um,

[39:34] and we will continue to have all of those same services at Meridell. So, the

[39:38] case management, um, the ability to meet in private with your case manager in a

[39:44] an office with air conditioning, um, so people aren't listening to your your

[39:49] private conversations. Um, and we are really looking forward to

[39:55] that opening up and um, fingers crossed it will be happening very soon.

[40:06] Um and just a little more overview. So it's 65 tiny homes that will be on site.

[40:12] Um and so this is made possible um with a city county partnership. Uh the county

[40:19] contributed to purchase the site at 350 Midale

[40:23] um which is very exciting. Marin has one of sort of the lower availability of

[40:29] shelter beds within the Bay Area. Um so it's something that's really needed in

[40:34] terms of just being able to have some immediate response. Um besides the folks

[40:38] at the sanctioned camping area, um folks who are on Anderson Drive, I'm sure you

[40:45] guys have all been by that. Some of those folks will also be participating

[40:49] in the program. Um, and at that time we will actually be closing down the

[40:53] Anderson uh drive encampment um as part of the camping ordinance changes that

[40:59] were made a few months ago at city council. Um we're certainly not the

[41:04] first uh jurisdiction to to launch a tiny home village. Um but it's very

[41:10] exciting and a good step forward for folks especially as the winter months

[41:13] are coming up. So we're very excited. Um, and as Lynn mentioned, this is truly

[41:18] just focused on a place to recover and provide folks a

[41:24] path um to permanent housing. So, this is a interm temporary step for folks.

[41:31] And for a little view, uh, as you can see, here's what the site layout's going

[41:36] to look like. Um, give or take, you know, some minor changes here. Um, so

[41:41] you can see uh each one of these little boxes that you see is that those are

[41:46] actually two tiny homes. So the design of it is basically one large uh shipping

[41:52] container that's split down the middle. Each unit will be about 70 square feet.

[41:57] Um, and so on the screen you'll see 65, well actually 66 because one of them

[42:03] will will be used as an office. Um, we'll have restrooms, showers,

[42:09] uh, an area for a pet run, ADA access. Um, and this building in the middle will

[42:15] be program space, office space, uh, community center. We're, um, in the

[42:21] midst of designing sort of the interior layout of that, um, which the folks at

[42:26] RCA are excited about being able to have those because currently at the SCA that

[42:31] is not a possibility. Um and then finally once everyone transitions uh

[42:36] bringing the Mahome path back to its intended use um is sort of that final

[42:41] step of that transition.

[42:48] And I know Lieutenant Everly already talked a little bit about the safety,

[42:52] but we're going to do a little bit of a deeper dive here. Um, this data is from

[42:59] January 2026 through June of 2026. Um,

[43:05] we we've I enjoy working with them quite a

[43:09] bit. We share an office space and we have a fair amount of overlap. So, it's

[43:13] been really great working with them. Um, they've contacted,37

[43:19] individuals um who identified as unhoused.

[43:24] Um, let's see here. 95 were referred to

[43:30] outside services. Uh, 95 of their contacts. So, an outside service might

[43:34] be Helenvine Detox. It might be um Marin Treatment Center. It could be um taking

[43:42] them to see their case manager. um they're they're very flexible and as

[43:47] long as they are going to a staffed service could be an AA meeting um they

[43:53] can transport. So [snorts] their goal is really to determine what the need is and

[44:00] help them get that need met. um diversions from the emergency

[44:07] emergency department, the jail, and an ambulance ride was at 168, which is

[44:13] really pretty remarkable. Um if you think about um pre-safe, if somebody um

[44:22] had I mean a spider bite, I see a lot of spider bites in my travels um and they

[44:28] were taken to the emergency department. it's not really the best use of our

[44:33] resources. Instead, the safe team could take them to the Ritter Clinic where

[44:39] they could be seen right in town um and get the medication that they need and

[44:46] fill that prescription at Walgreens across the street. Um and they responded

[44:53] to 95 suicidal subject calls in those six months.

[45:03] And that's it for our presentation tonight. Um, and we're here for any

[45:08] questions or comments. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Thank you for your

[45:13] presentation. Thanks Q for coming back. Please come back more often. We love

[45:17] hearing from you guys. Appreciate what you guys do. Um, I would like to uh see

[45:22] if there's any questions. So right now it's just the time for questions uh on

[45:26] the presentation. I will start with member Camina.

[45:31] » Welcome. >> You gota wait your turn, girl.

[45:33] » No. >> Okay, member Camina.

[45:36] » Awkward that way. >> Thank you for being here. Thank you for

[45:39] the work that you do. Um I I think you answered one of my questions, which will

[45:45] happen to the the the camp, not the Anderson Drive, but the other camp after

[45:50] the Mary Dale is completed. >> They're closing it.

[45:55] » Yeah. So it will get returned back to its intended use. So a walking bike

[46:00] path. >> Okay. And then um one of the questions I

[46:05] have which unfortunately comes up in the newspaper more than the good programs

[46:10] are the issue the incidents of violence in the Anderson area. And I'm wondering

[46:16] if you how often you see that incidents of

[46:22] violence.

[46:28] The incidents that you've seen in the newspaper are really the incidents that

[46:34] are the biggest on our radar as well. So on a day-to-day basis, we're not seeing

[46:40] the types of things that you know you read about in the headlines. those were

[46:45] pretty um isolated incidents and I think it just goes to show that unsanctioned

[46:53] unorganized campsites are not good for anybody

[46:57] um and that the sanctioned camping area has not experienced that type of um the

[47:06] violence and so if anything it's I would like it to be a reason why don't we have

[47:12] more of these sanctioned camping areas because it's the outcomes are much

[47:16] better. >> Thank you so much.

[47:21] » Thank you. I will go to member new please.

[47:28] » Well, I just have a question like so the people

[47:33] uh like you take the registrations and people had to fill a form before moving

[47:39] to the shelters and you have uh like the the list of people like manage in the

[47:46] orders of people. So you have the name of everything is in order, right? So

[47:51] that's good. I just I just wonder. Yeah. Yes. So um we have um people agree

[48:02] to a code of conduct. Um they do an intake form. There's paperwork that they

[48:07] sign in order to be enrolled in coordinated entry, which is the

[48:11] countyy's system to get people into housing. Um, so it's a it's a fair

[48:16] amount of paperwork and that's what the case manager is. That's their job to

[48:20] help them to understand what it is they're signing. For some people,

[48:26] signing a piece of paper is like, why am I signing this? What am I giving away?

[48:30] Um, so the case manager explains what it is they're actually

[48:35] signing. Uh, and they don't have to sign it in some cases. So, but for the code

[48:41] of conduct, if you want to be in the the Meridale site, you do have to sign the

[48:45] code of conduct. >> I'll also add all those forms are

[48:49] available on our website under the homelessness page. Um, so they are

[48:53] available for public consumption if you ever want to take a look.

[48:57] » What's that website? It's the city of San Rafale. Uh, and then you just click

[49:02] the tab for homelessness. >> Okay. Thank you. Um,

[49:06] » I will when you're done. >> Yeah.

[49:08] » I will go to a member Rodas. >> Yeah. I want to say thank you guys for

[49:13] your presentation, for being here. Um, my question is how are individuals

[49:17] chosen for the Maryale shelter and what happens to those who are denied a spa?

[49:24] » Uh, that's a really good question. I think, you know,

[49:28] maybe it's not a misconception, but Marielle is not going to end

[49:32] homelessness in Sanfell or the county by any means, right? It's certainly a right

[49:37] step that is necessary um and is going to be beneficial. Um part of our

[49:43] agreement with the county is that over the life of the interim shelter, um that

[49:48] only 70 individuals are going to be served. So, I presented earlier 326 and

[49:54] 70. You can see there's a little gap there. Um so for folks and the way

[49:58] they're chosen is basically we receive state funding to stand up the sanctioned

[50:04] camp um the sanctioned camping area and so we have a basically an outreach list

[50:10] and so we worked with the county on that um on top of that we just applied for

[50:15] subsequent funding. So we basically have a select list based on you know outreach

[50:20] that Lynn did and other um service providers. Um and so that's how folks

[50:24] are going to be selected. >> And then and then um are there are there

[50:31] other options? So somebody's not accepted into into Midell. Is is there

[50:37] somewhere else we can offer them a place to stay?

[50:42] We have our shelter um at 190 Mil Street that's run by Homewardbound. Um

[50:50] it's not enough beds. So that is the alternative. Homewardbound does a really

[50:55] good job of trying to move people from Jonathan's place

[51:00] um up to Neato to their new beginnings campus which is a longer term shelter.

[51:06] Um so we have more openings available on an emergency basis but the demand far

[51:13] exceeds the capacity. So it's it's definitely not the solution that we

[51:19] would like to have. Right. Okay. And then one last question.

[51:25] Um, what happens when the uh the SCA shelter by the snake path is closed? I'm

[51:36] going to make an assumption that people are probably still going to continue to

[51:38] come back. Is that path going to be patrolled or is there going to be some

[51:42] enforcement about anti-housing there? Um, or anti, you know, setups.

[51:48] » Encampments. Yes. >> Yeah. So the whole path under our

[51:51] current camping ordinance has a is not zoned for camping. So there's currently

[51:56] no camping. So once it's sort of restored um it will be addressed as any

[52:02] other encampment that pops up um within the city.

[52:08] » Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh member Ruiz.

[52:13] Um, I have a question about the person living in Anderson Street no more or

[52:22] they are still living in inerson.

[52:27] » Thanks. They are still living on Anderson Drive.

[52:30] » Once Midale is open then camping will not be allowed on Anderson Drive.

[52:38] » Okay. But what going to happen with them?

[52:42] » That's That's a good question. I mean, we can we always look for other options.

[52:47] So, if that's family reunification, we have a program where people can if

[52:53] they have somebody that lives say in another state or another part of

[52:59] California, we can pay for family reunification.

[53:03] Um, but a lot of times people, they want to stay here if they've been here for a

[53:08] long time. They can, you know, this is home. Um,

[53:12] so we we try to be creative and look at other options. So, is there a way that

[53:17] we could find um a shared living environment where you could rent out a

[53:23] room? Um, and it's it can be a challenge, but

[53:28] we'll look at every possible option. Residential treatment, um,

[53:35] inhome caregiving. So, it's it's going to be a challenge. No doubt.

[53:41] » And just to add on, some of the folks on Anderson will um move into the Midell

[53:47] Interm Shelter. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you so much for your

[53:51] answer. >> Thank you. Uh member Tokahi,

[53:56] » I have one [clears throat] regarding the safety and my questions will al also

[54:01] relate to an earlier report from one of the staff. Um I think he mentioned

[54:07] something about the safe team handles one out of 11 call.

[54:12] » My concern is who's handled the other 10 because I I know there's only one safe

[54:19] team and there's not so many of them. I also understand there's no other

[54:26] um outreach team like I know the downtown street team is out. Um, also

[54:34] the care team is out. They're not around anymore. So, I don't know who else is

[54:38] doing outreach regarding the safety in one person.

[54:42] » Yeah. Um, so I'm out there. Um, but the other 10 calls are handled by patrol.

[54:50] So, if it's a call for service, SAFE is responding to

[54:55] one out of 11. So patrol, let's say it's um a welf call

[55:02] for a welfare check, but somebody is swinging a baseball bat. So safe would

[55:06] not go to that call because there's the potential for violence. So that would be

[55:11] handled by patrol. So we're we're not looking at all of the

[55:16] calls that um safe that would qualify as a safe call. Does that make sense? So

[55:22] we're just looking at overall calls for service.

[55:28] So some of them didn't qualify for >> Right. Right. I'm I I'm just worried

[55:33] about >> I can jump in and hope not for you that

[55:38] the police >> the

[55:41] statistic given one in 111. So the number of calls that the safety team

[55:44] handled in quarter 2 was 684. That equates that 684 number equates to one

[55:51] out of every 11 total calls for service that come into the police department.

[55:55] And as Lynn was alluding to, that doesn't necessarily mean all of those

[55:58] are safe calls. It means that they're handling one out of every 11 calls for

[56:04] service that normally would go to a police officer that do qualify as a safe

[56:08] team. So, it was just to try to frame the productivity of the team and how

[56:12] much that they're handling. On average, as been reported annually, they're

[56:17] handling a little over 8% of all calls for service.

[56:21] » Okay. >> Did that clarify? Yeah.

[56:25] » Okay. Uh, thank you. Thank you. I'll go to now alternate member locks.

[56:38] I just want Thank you. It was excellent. Uh, one of your slides I would like for

[56:43] you to clarify the description. It said only 70 unique.

[56:52] What do you mean by that?

[56:56] » I'll take that one. Um, so that means 70 individuals. So there's 65 units. So

[57:05] only 65 folks will be on site at one time. Over the life of the interimm

[57:10] shelter, only 70 individuals from that curated list that I mentioned will be in

[57:15] the program over time.

[57:20] That's a clarification of the word unique.

[57:23] » Yeah, just individual. Yeah. >> Okay.

[57:26] » Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you, Alter Member Valdez.

[57:32] » My question has have been answered. So, thank you.

[57:35] » Okay. Thank you. Uh thank you again. Uh you mentioned there's going to be a

[57:39] patrol um someone patrol at the Midell. Is that an SRPD? Is that a private

[57:43] security? Can you elaborate on who's this patrol individual?

[57:49] Um, we're looking at a substation like Pickleweed Park has a substation. Uh,

[57:55] Northgate Mall had a an office where patrol could go and write reports. They

[58:00] could have their lunch there if they're in the Terinda um beat. So, with

[58:06] Northgate Mall being demolished and rebuilt, um, we're going to have a

[58:11] similar type of office at Midell. >> Thank you. Um that may have answered my

[58:17] next question because some of the neighborhood around the Midell Fernwood

[58:20] they raised concern around homeless people and out being about I'm just

[58:25] sharing what I'm hearing. Uh you have any comment around that their concerns

[58:30] around this issue safety in regards to safety?

[58:35] » Um sure. Yes. And we've certainly heard their concerns now since uh

[58:41] October of last year. So, um I think through a series of uh community

[58:46] meetings and a ton of engagement um since October of last year, we've tried

[58:53] to work with the community as best we can to, you know, make it one a place

[58:58] that everyone is comfortable. So, folks who are in the program, folks who are

[59:02] living in the neighborhood or businesses,

[59:05] um our doors have remained open for communication. And so sort of where we

[59:09] landed is trying to meet everyone's needs as best as possible while

[59:15] understanding there's a lot of unique needs um from

[59:21] different populations, right? And so I think once the program gets going, the

[59:26] comfortability and sort of responsiveness will make everyone feel a

[59:32] little more comfortable. Um, but the unknown is unknown at this point as

[59:36] we're still talking about a project that's not right not here at the moment.

[59:42] Thank you. I have two more questions. Uh, my other question is around the

[59:46] business community. One of the things that I hear from them is like, you know,

[59:49] again, I'm playing maybe business devil's ad. One of the things they say

[59:53] is like we have a lot of nonprofits in downtown San Rafale area um that they're

[59:57] saying like doesn't this attract more homeless to downtown San Rafale? So, how

[1:00:03] would you respond to something like that?

[1:00:05] » That just to [clears throat] clarify that having nonprofits downtown attracts

[1:00:10] more people >> that cater to the homeless demographic

[1:00:13] brings in more homeless to downtown San Rafale.

[1:00:17] » Um, yeah, I certainly hear that a lot from

[1:00:21] community members and downtown businesses. I think

[1:00:26] downtowns, every downtown in America attracts people, right? Period. Point

[1:00:31] blank. regardless of what's there. You go to any sort of urban core downtown

[1:00:35] and that's where the majority of the city goes for shopping, for food, for

[1:00:40] doctors, whatever it might be. Um, I think it's a little bit of a

[1:00:45] misconception. You know, we have two nonprofits downtown and I don't know the

[1:00:51] total number of businesses downtown, but I'm guessing that's, you know, it's a

[1:00:55] very small percentage, right? So, I think regardless of where those

[1:00:59] nonprofits are located, the sort of attraction to downtown that's there for

[1:01:03] folks who are unsheltered and for folks who are sheltered, it's getting their

[1:01:07] needs met is where, you know, the transit center is, right? Like it's

[1:01:11] everything is right there for San Rafll. Um, and so it's not a unique issue to

[1:01:16] San Rafll, but I don't think it's the main driver um by any means.

[1:01:22] » Thank you very much for answering that. That helps. And my final question is

[1:01:25] there was a resolution passed to make encampment illegal in certain part of

[1:01:29] San Rafale. How has been your experience around enforcing that?

[1:01:39] Uh we haven't really been enforcing it as of yet because Midell has not yet

[1:01:44] opened. So it's business as usual. We have our ranger who's out in the open

[1:01:49] space. We have our footbeat team who's out regularly um marking um posting

[1:01:56] sites that have been set up that are in places that um does not allow camping.

[1:02:02] » Thank you very much. Um I will now like to open up for public comments in

[1:02:08] regards to this presentation.

[1:02:15] » Uh let's save it for the last part. We're going to have comments at the end.

[1:02:18] So I just want to keep the rolling but I will come back to you. Thank you.

[1:02:26] » Good evening everyone. Um so yeah um 65 tiny homes in Maryale. Good. Um

[1:02:37] tightening up the um

[1:02:42] criminalization of the camping ordinance. Not so good. We know that

[1:02:48] after the 65 based on point in time 2024 numbers um it said 326 but I think 214

[1:02:58] 206 were actually unhoused. The rest were in shelter. There are going to be

[1:03:03] quite a bit of people still on the street. And so with the tightening of

[1:03:08] the ordinance, the camping ordinance, and people not sure where to go,

[1:03:14] um if they get more like if they get ticketed more, that's

[1:03:19] going to add barriers to get uh for them to get out of homelessness. Um I will

[1:03:24] give credit because they have not fully criminalized homelessness like other

[1:03:29] cities in Marin have. There are still legal places for people to camp. Um, but

[1:03:34] we don't know where they are. And, um, I think it would be it's a fair concern,

[1:03:40] it's a fair question to ask the city, um, where can people camp because if

[1:03:46] they don't know where to camp, they are probably going to get a ticket or be

[1:03:50] told to move along every couple days. It's going to just exasperate

[1:03:54] everything, add barriers to homelessness if they get ticketed. And um I think a

[1:03:59] fair question and a fair uh recommendation to the city is uh asking

[1:04:05] the city where you guys could ask the city of where people can legally camp.

[1:04:09] Thank you. >> Thank you.

[1:04:15] [snorts]

[1:04:19] » Good evening. [clears throat] Good evening again. Um I just want to

[1:04:23] touch on a couple points. um committee committee member wrote us um asked about

[1:04:30] and it was kind of almost like trying to get reassurance that there will be more

[1:04:36] patrol on Mahon Creek once the the sanctioned encampment is closed and and

[1:04:42] you know like Jason pointed out there would be 65 people in the uh Midale tiny

[1:04:48] home village but there's a lot more people that are going to be unhoused and

[1:04:52] that have no place to go um Uh Lyn Murphy touched on it a little bit

[1:04:57] when she talked about how uh the shelter through Homewardbound um is, you know,

[1:05:05] there's rarely any better or I don't think she used rarely. I think she kind

[1:05:08] of under uh uh stated that there's really no

[1:05:15] availability. It's really hard to get it to the shelter. And not only that, they

[1:05:20] if you have a higher level of care needs, if you're incontinent

[1:05:26] um and other higher level of care, you don't qualify to be in the shelter. So,

[1:05:31] you have a lot of unhoused folks that not only have trauma, but that have

[1:05:35] unmet medical needs that don't even qualify to be in the shelter. So, when

[1:05:39] you ask about the reassurance of patrolling in this area, think about

[1:05:45] people that really have nowhere else to go. And yes, there is an ordinance.

[1:05:50] There is a existing ordinance that limits where people can go. But I think

[1:05:54] this would be a great opportunity to look at that ordinance, look at the

[1:05:58] data, and really see if this committee could maybe come up with some

[1:06:03] recommendations that might alleviate some of the suffering of the people on

[1:06:07] the streets from that ordinance. Thank you.

[1:06:10] » Thank you. >> Can I clarify?

[1:06:14] » Um, yeah. Can we do that at this point? >> Yeah. Member member Rodus likes to

[1:06:21] clarify. So, we'll give an opportunity to speak if you Heidi, if you won't

[1:06:24] mind. Can you get a minute? Go ahead, sir.

[1:06:26] » Thank you. Yeah, just my my question wasn't really um asking for reassurance

[1:06:32] that there'd be more patrol. It would be It was more so along the lines of what

[1:06:36] would happen to the people that chose to come back, whether it be ticketed or

[1:06:39] not. I wasn't looking for reassurance that there'd be more officers out there.

[1:06:43] » Thank you, sir. And uh Heidi, please go ahead.

[1:06:46] » Yeah, ditto to everything that Jason and Sarah said and thanks for the

[1:06:50] clarification because I also heard are the homeless going to be policed

[1:06:54] appropriately um in your comment. I think um as has been highlighted, there

[1:07:00] aren't places to go and we're going to be left with hundreds of people. It's

[1:07:04] great that the tiny homes are going to be transitional housing. Um it's a

[1:07:08] little concerning that there's going to be a patrol substation there. Um, when

[1:07:13] we say that's going to make everyone feel safer, I don't think it's going to

[1:07:17] make the people living in the tiny homes feel safer. Um, I also think

[1:07:22] overpleasing poor people um, isn't going to help at all. Because if we make it

[1:07:28] illegal, people are not living outside. Most of the people who have to live

[1:07:32] outside because they have no other options are not doing that because they

[1:07:35] think it's awesome to live outside. They have trauma. They have families that

[1:07:40] maybe can't also have trauma from them that can't accept them back in. It's

[1:07:45] heartbreaking to see a family member pick up their unhoused child for like a

[1:07:50] Sunday meal and then bring them back because they just can't live with that

[1:07:55] person based on the trauma and the mental health issues that they have. And

[1:07:59] so I encourage us to look for other solutions to see homeless people in

[1:08:04] their full humanity. Their moms and dads, brothers, sisters, friends,

[1:08:08] artists, plumbers, carpenters, they're all the people that you're friends with

[1:08:13] um who just happen to be in really bad circumstances and they don't just need a

[1:08:18] home, they need support when they're in a home after having lived outside. They

[1:08:22] need wraparound services. Um, probably not. I wouldn't put police services on

[1:08:27] that list. Um, I still agree with some of the conversation that's been had here

[1:08:32] around the support and care of unhoused people isn't really a policing issue or

[1:08:38] a law enforcement issue. Um, when certain things happen, it may become

[1:08:43] that, but I don't want us to start from the place that it is that. Thank you.

[1:08:48] » Thank you.

[1:08:57] Hello. Hi everybody. Um, I know I came in a little bit late, but I just wanted

[1:09:02] to kind of say thank you for even allowing a conversation to happen

[1:09:06] because I think whenever you try to not have conversations about this topic is

[1:09:11] when it can actually get out of hand, so to speak. So, um, it's important and I

[1:09:18] appreciate the fact that the conversation is happening. So, it's I

[1:09:22] think it's a good thing whenever you have conversations and and meetings and

[1:09:25] allow community members and other members of the committees to express and

[1:09:30] ask questions that maybe they didn't know before. So, that's all I want to

[1:09:33] say. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you for coming.

[1:09:42] [clears throat] >> How y'all doing?

[1:09:46] Okay. First thing I want to address is

[1:09:50] uh the escros that that's being sold. Those are [clears throat] my properties

[1:09:57] and and I ask you, you know, nicely, please don't sell this one. Please don't

[1:10:03] sell this one. And it happens. Um I just found out, [clears throat] well, I've

[1:10:09] I've already found out that I have imminent domain authority.

[1:10:16] Okay. So, especially when it comes to finances, I'm supposed to be here at all

[1:10:21] of these meetings and I'm supposed to head the meetings, but I don't want to

[1:10:25] do that. [clears throat] I don't want to do that because I won't

[1:10:28] be here at all of them. >> Yeah.

[1:10:34] So um as far as um Anderson is concerned,

[1:10:41] yeah, it is pretty rowdy over there, you know, and um I got jumped three time

[1:10:48] twice. I had one fight and then I got jumped twice for asking about my money.

[1:10:54] So they still playing the game. The game is illegal.

[1:10:59] Okay. So [clears throat] and it's also racist. So

[1:11:05] the modern day um slavery act ended January no February this year. So when I

[1:11:15] go out there and I know [clears throat] I own all the all the all not most of

[1:11:20] them all them all all because I I inherited code one. Code one runs all

[1:11:27] offices but I get discriminated against the whole time. They take two weeks off

[1:11:35] of discrimination out of 14 years. Been homeless since the will got stolen out

[1:11:42] the house with my neighbor. So, [clears throat]

[1:11:46] » thank you, sir. >> That being said, I'll see you guys

[1:11:50] later. Okay. And >> sir, can you please wrap up? Thank you.

[1:11:57] Your time is up, sir. I do need some help with uh [clears throat] with my air

[1:12:02] inheritance and my paperwork. So, we'll we'll touch with

[1:12:06] » Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. >> Thank you.

[1:12:08] » Thank you. >> Okay. Um we'll now go to uh any comments

[1:12:13] via Zoom. >> We have no online comments.

[1:12:17] » Okay. All right. Uh I don't see any more comments. So we'll close public comments

[1:12:23] and uh let's go to our recommendation from this

[1:12:29] presentation that should be included in the annual report to the city council.

[1:12:33] » I will start with member Camina. >> Uh chair.

[1:12:37] » Yes. I want to give you time for your comment. I didn't forget you had a

[1:12:40] comment to my >> Yes. And I need them to be present.

[1:12:45] » Okay. My apologies. I ke I will keep my promise. Why don't you go first, please?

[1:12:50] Because Okay.

[1:12:55] » Um, Director Murphy, I really appreciate that you're having pointed out

[1:13:04] the the level of violence versus what's reported. Um,

[1:13:11] and I would like to comment that my comment is for thanking you. It's to the

[1:13:17] chair and to the people that are present in the audience.

[1:13:22] The comments about safety and the comments about participation in

[1:13:27] community. Uh of the committee members I have

[1:13:32] walked Anderson Street. Of the committee members I have gone

[1:13:38] into the park may I call it you know. Yeah. the camping that SCA I have gone

[1:13:46] in there >> and to hear the concerns of people about

[1:13:50] safety and so forth. >> It's not as something is happening every

[1:13:56] moment because you have the staff there. You have the case managers. This

[1:14:02] particular area is will be safe just like the one over at you know the other

[1:14:08] the S SCA S. And I just wanted to have that stated

[1:14:15] out loud. It's not like you're walking past people and they're jumping on you

[1:14:19] as we kind of just heard. Um that doesn't happen in that fashion. And

[1:14:25] there are members in the community who have been homeless and who are no longer

[1:14:30] homeless that can also address that issue. People are people and that's how

[1:14:36] we should be treating each other first and foremost without the assumption that

[1:14:41] you're going to be harmed. You know, it's, you know, I've walked those

[1:14:47] streets and talked to those people in both sites. Thank you.

[1:14:52] » Thank you. Thank you. Um, member Camina, >> um, I failed to ask one question, so if

[1:14:58] I might do that, um, before I give you my comments, which is there's no street

[1:15:03] team anymore. Is there why? And is it possible to get it back? I thought it

[1:15:08] was great. >> Uh, they shut down their business

[1:15:12] um, late last year. So, downtown streets does not exist.

[1:15:20] » So sad. Well, and my comments are um First, thank you again for being here.

[1:15:26] But, you know, it's by the grace of God or a gene, um, any of us could be in the

[1:15:32] situation of homelessness. And I certainly didn't mean to imply that this

[1:15:36] was a violent nature. I was just curious about what was happening.

[1:15:38] » Yes. >> I am so I have seen you walking down

[1:15:42] Anderson Drive talking with people and I so much appreciate that you guys are

[1:15:47] here with the amount I'm going to cry. with the amount of compassion that you

[1:15:51] have and the understanding and if it weren't for your gift that you're giving

[1:15:57] to our community, I think it would be very different. So, I thank you. Thank

[1:16:02] you. >> Thank you. You guys want to hang up? We

[1:16:05] have going to shower you with some compliments. So, I know if if you're in

[1:16:09] a hurry, please go. But if you don't mind, maybe stick around. Um, member

[1:16:13] Newan, >> there's no comment. Thank you very much

[1:16:17] for your presentation. Okay. Member Rodas,

[1:16:21] » no comment, but thank you. >> Member Ruiz,

[1:16:25] » no comment. >> Member Tokahi,

[1:16:30] um I just wanted to say kudos to you and and the safe team and the one safe team

[1:16:34] that's still doing the all the work that you guys are doing. Uh I know it's not

[1:16:38] easy. I've been there. I've done the work. Um burned out a few times, you

[1:16:43] know, after three years. I'm like, you know, I can't do it. Um it's not easy

[1:16:49] but kudos to you and the one safe team that has been doing a lot of work and

[1:16:54] also some of the the case managers some of the other agencies like St. Vincent

[1:16:59] uh we have Rita the Rita house uh Rita center um and other agencies that are

[1:17:05] still doing the work. I know the work that that all of you guys have done is a

[1:17:12] lot but we all know that it's not going to solve the issue. you know, we wish

[1:17:16] there's more shelters, uh, more beds open at some other places.

[1:17:22] I don't know. Like, can we find funding somewhere and build more, you know,

[1:17:27] because we know like the folks once we we close an encampment like we're going

[1:17:33] to ask that questions like where those folks going to go, you know,

[1:17:38] maybe the city can or maybe with us, we can work with the city. We can work

[1:17:43] together to find spaces There are folks who also live in their

[1:17:47] cars. That's their means of transportation. Like they have all their

[1:17:51] stuff in their cars. That's home for them. Maybe we can give them a pass. I

[1:17:56] don't know. And I'll work with the city folks. Give them a pass so they can I

[1:18:01] don't know, give them a placard so they can park somewhere or or allocate

[1:18:06] an area for them to park with their vehicles, you know. Um I don't know.

[1:18:12] this I know there's still a lot of work to do but I also want to appreciate

[1:18:17] everything that everyone has put in you know it's it's a long journey and once

[1:18:23] we see someone take that that next steps and get housed and get a job you know

[1:18:30] like we've seen some of them here and all um kudos to you guys with sticking

[1:18:36] with the program and all and taking that next steps

[1:18:40] » so thank Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. Okay. And then uh

[1:18:44] alternate member Valdez. >> Um just thank you for your presentation

[1:18:48] and also like they mention all the work that you do. I think it makes a big

[1:18:53] difference for the homeless population. >> Okay. For me, I really have more um

[1:18:58] praise than recommendation. You guys provide a corrective experience out in

[1:19:02] the world. I've seen what you guys do. You and I have met with the business

[1:19:06] community. You're so available every time I call you so to can meet with

[1:19:09] someone just to educate them on what we do. side. I just want to thank you for

[1:19:11] your time. Um, the word unique has been used today. So, I'll use it again. You

[1:19:15] serve a unique role because you wear a uniform. You don't have a weapon. Your

[1:19:19] weapon is your relationship is your word, your loyalty. It's those

[1:19:23] relationships you develop with people. So, it's you do have a unique role here.

[1:19:28] Um, and you know, myself, I used to serve in a 5150 unit. And that I see

[1:19:32] when people would get discharged and they would keep ending coming back to

[1:19:36] the inatient psych hospital. And the ones that had the most efficacy were the

[1:19:40] ones who went to a short-term house and eventually were placed in a long-term

[1:19:44] home. I had the most efficate rate of people finding roots, finding home. And

[1:19:48] once when you get to know their story, you develop empathy and you realize like

[1:19:52] it's hard. It's hard, you know, living on the street. You really applaud them

[1:19:55] for the, you know, how much stamina they have. Um, so I appreciate what you guys

[1:20:00] do. Um I I don't have any more comments. I think I think with that note if

[1:20:06] there's no other things we can adjourn, I think. Right. All right. Thank you.

[1:20:13] » Thank you. >> Thank you.

Police Advisory & Accountability Committee – August 19, 2026

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