[0:00] And

[0:02] they do.

[0:09] » [snorts]

[0:12] » Okay, thank you.

[0:14] Welcome to our city council regular

[0:16] meeting. It's Tuesday the 16th of June.

[0:20] And it's 7:11.

[0:23] So, 7:11 will happen in July and if you

[0:26] go to 7:11, you can get a free slurpee.

[0:30] Just thought I'd tell you that.

[0:33] Have to make things fun. Anyway, thank

[0:36] you for being part of our council

[0:38] meeting tonight.

[0:40] >> [clears throat]

[0:40] >> I'll dispense with the roll call as

[0:43] everyone's here and we're ready to go.

[0:46] And

[0:47] would like to ask if anyone would like

[0:49] to lead us in the pledge of allegiance.

[0:52] >> I'll do it mayor.

[0:53] >> Okay.

[0:53] >> Please stand.

[0:55] Please repeat the pledge of allegiance

[0:56] with me. I

[0:58] >> allegiance to the flag of the United

[1:01] States of America and to the republic

[1:03] for which it stands, one nation under

[1:06] God, indivisible, with liberty and

[1:09] justice for all.

[1:12] » Thanks Jason. Can I ask if there's

[1:15] anyone that would offer an invocation or

[1:17] leave us with an inspirational thought?

[1:24] Okay, hearing none, I'll

[1:27] say the prayer.

[1:29] >> [clears throat]

[1:32] » Our Father in heaven, we are grateful

[1:34] tonight for the many blessings that we

[1:37] have.

[1:38] Grateful to be able to serve this city

[1:41] as a council.

[1:43] And grateful for the many good people

[1:44] that we serve and serve with.

[1:47] We're grateful for the

[1:51] representation that we have tonight and

[1:54] ask that thy spirit will be with us, as

[1:57] we

[1:58] listen to comments,

[2:01] as we

[2:02] work to continue to help this city. May

[2:05] we do so with thy spirit and with thy

[2:07] blessing.

[2:08] We're so grateful for where we live.

[2:11] Father, we ask for one other thing this

[2:14] night, and that's for

[2:16] rains to fall

[2:18] and to bless our community with

[2:20] uh

[2:21] water that will help in growing of crops

[2:24] around our city, even helping with the

[2:27] lawns.

[2:28] We pray for that moisture, and for also

[2:31] moisture in the winter

[2:33] that will help us through next year. And

[2:36] we say this in the name of Jesus Christ.

[2:38] Amen.

[2:38] >> Amen.

[2:41] » [clears throat]

[2:44] » I'd like to ask if there is uh

[2:46] declaration of a potential conflict of

[2:48] interest on anything that we're going to

[2:50] discuss tonight.

[2:53] Hearing none, then we'll move on to the

[2:55] next thing. That's the consent agenda.

[2:59] Uh consent agenda

[3:01] will be uh

[3:04] number one, the minutes of 6:02.

[3:08] You want to

[3:10] Uh you've all had a chance to look at

[3:12] that. Are there any comments or uh

[3:15] issues?

[3:18] Then I'll move to the next one, 6:02

[3:22] for our regular meeting.

[3:25] Should that be 6:03?

[3:27] >> It's the day, mayor.

[3:30] It's June 2nd work session and June 2nd.

[3:33] >> Yeah, I know.

[3:34] Some Oh, it's we usually do something

[3:37] else.

[3:38] >> I'm thinking of

[3:39] >> resolutions

[3:40] >> ordinances and

[3:42] >> Um

[3:43] any comments on the regular meeting

[3:45] minutes?

[3:48] Hearing none, then we'll move on to the

[3:50] bills, and it's a very light bill this

[3:55] last two weeks. It's only what 4,382,000

[4:01] 329 and I'm glad there was 61 cents. So,

[4:06] Um we have a chance to scroll through

[4:09] those.

[4:11] Um

[4:11] And every penny seems to have its place.

[4:16] Um any questions or any comments from

[4:19] those expenditures?

[4:21] I do I do want to say that a major

[4:23] portion of that is for the uh WRF that

[4:27] we're currently upgrading. So,

[4:29] >> And and the fire truck.

[4:31] >> And the fire truck. Yeah.

[4:34] So, [clears throat]

[4:35] uh um

[4:35] >> Can Can I ask a question?

[4:37] >> Sure.

[4:37] >> And maybe Shannon has some insight.

[4:40] There's like [clears throat] the

[4:41] Medicare ACH transaction fees. Is that

[4:45] What is that? Like is that like Cuz I I

[4:48] just know I like I'm I noticed there's

[4:50] like three different like transaction

[4:52] related like credit card fees or this

[4:54] and I'm like I I've no idea what it is.

[4:56] >> Yeah, so um that's all related to um

[4:59] ambulance insurance payments through

[5:01] Medicaid, Medicare. Um they directly get

[5:04] deposited into our checking account.

[5:06] They charge a fee off every single one

[5:08] of those two um process them and and get them to us.

[5:12] So, the money comes into our account and

[5:14] then there's a small fee that comes off

[5:16] every time we get a payment from the

[5:17] federal government.

[5:19] >> Oh, do we take that into account for

[5:20] what we bill or is it do we have any

[5:23] say? Like does the government say this

[5:25] is the rate that we'll pay or can we say

[5:27] hey we have to pay this fee so we

[5:28] >> No, I think it's a standard rate.

[5:30] >> Okay.

[5:30] >> Um for every single claim.

[5:32] >> Okay.

[5:32] >> So, Ryan would have more information on

[5:34] that, but I'm pretty sure it's a

[5:35] standard rate for every claim.

[5:36] >> Okay. Thanks.

[5:39] >> Okay, any other questions on that?

[5:41] Then I would entertain a motion for the

[5:44] consent agenda.

[5:46] >> So moved.

[5:47] >> Seconded.

[5:48] >> Moved and seconded.

[5:50] Travis.

[5:50] >> Hi.

[5:55] » Lynn.

[5:56] >> Hi.

[5:58] >> Jeff.

[5:58] >> [clears throat]

[5:59] >> Hi.

[5:59] >> Art.

[6:00] >> Hi.

[6:00] >> Brian.

[6:01] >> Hi.

[6:02] >> You didn't take that.

[6:03] >> I answered anything.

[6:04] >> [laughter]

[6:06] >> Okay.

[6:07] Um public foreign bid openings, awards,

[6:11] and appointments. Uh we have an

[6:13] appointment tonight.

[6:15] Our architectural review committee

[6:18] appointment. And uh

[6:20] So, Jason, do you want to take that?

[6:23] >> Yeah, as we talked about in the work

[6:24] session, uh

[6:26] our code requires that for the

[6:27] architectural

[6:29] review committee, we have a

[6:30] representative from the planning

[6:31] commission be on that committee.

[6:34] Um

[6:34] We recently had Kylie Lance who was that

[6:36] planning commission

[6:38] representative, but she's not been in

[6:39] the plan She's not on the planning

[6:40] commission anymore. Uh we still retain

[6:42] her with with a amendment the council

[6:44] recently did to to keep an alternate. Um

[6:49] So, she still will will do that, but we need a new planning commission

[6:52] representative. And And after talking

[6:54] with the mayor and and talking with this

[6:56] person, uh we're proposing and ask that

[6:59] [clears throat] you consider uh Briana

[7:01] Nixon to to be that planning

[7:03] commissioner who will be on the

[7:05] architectural review committee. She She

[7:08] does work in real estate. I think she's

[7:09] also got a uh a good design eye with some of the work that she does with looking at homes and that sort of a

[7:16] thing. Uh

[7:18] I I feel [snorts] like that's that's

[7:19] kind of what uh applies to Kylie Lance

[7:22] as well with her experience with that.

[7:24] So, anyway, she's the planning commissioner that we've uh suggested to be on the ARC.

[7:32] » [clears throat]

[7:32] >> Okay.

[7:37] I think you ought to come up and

[7:40] stand before us.

[7:42] Because I'm going to say does anybody

[7:43] have any questions for Brianna?

[7:47] Sure.

[7:49] » Hi guys.

[7:51] >> Brianna

[7:53] has served on this committee for some

[7:55] time and and more than anything I'm glad

[7:57] that you're

[7:58] glad to take on one more opportunity to

[8:01] serve.

[8:02] >> Yeah, no it'll be exciting. We like

[8:05] Jason said I love watching and designing

[8:08] commercial buildings. That's what

[8:10] me and my husband mainly have done is

[8:12] commercial buildings. So I'm excited to

[8:14] be part of it.

[8:16] >> Okay, any questions that you guys have

[8:18] for

[8:20] Brianna? She about called you Kathleen.

[8:23] Sorry about that.

[8:25] >> That's okay.

[8:26] >> Then I would entertain a motion for the

[8:29] arc appointment.

[8:32] >> So moved.

[8:33] >> Seconded.

[8:34] >> Moved and seconded. Travis?

[8:36] >> I.

[8:37] >> Dan?

[8:37] >> I.

[8:38] >> Jeff?

[8:38] >> I.

[8:39] >> Art?

[8:40] >> I. [clears throat]

[8:40] >> Ryan?

[8:40] >> I.

[8:41] >> Okay.

[8:42] >> So you are on. Now do we swear her in or

[8:45] >> care of that later. It doesn't have to

[8:46] happen here but she's already been sworn

[8:48] in on the planning commission and so

[8:50] she's had that embarrassment of doing

[8:51] that in a public meeting. We'll we'll do

[8:53] that.

[8:54] >> You can do that at the arc meeting as

[8:56] well. So

[8:57] >> Yeah.

[8:57] >> Okay.

[8:57] thank you and thanks for bringing

[9:00] your number one employee because he told

[9:02] me he had four years this year?

[9:04] >> No, six years.

[9:05] >> Six years.

[9:07] >> [laughter]

[9:07] >> Yeah, I've been there six years already.

[9:09] >> Yeah.

[9:10] >> Thank you Chad for keeping [laughter]

[9:13] keeping us clean.

[9:16] >> Thank you.

[9:16] >> Appreciate it very much.

[9:19] Um

[9:20] I'd like to move on to the public forum

[9:23] and nobody signed up. However, in this

[9:25] we are going to talk about safe routes

[9:28] to school and and I've asked the police

[9:30] chief to come because he had a meeting

[9:34] that he reported to us on just recently

[9:36] about safe and would like if you'd just

[9:39] give us a a little bit of information

[9:42] before we step in. We we had the PTA

[9:45] president that's asked for time and

[9:47] we're going to have her come up

[9:48] afterwards, too.

[9:50] >> Yeah, Mr. Mayor, Council.

[9:52] Uh we had our annual safe routes meeting

[9:54] has probably been 2 weeks ago or so and

[9:56] I think we uh

[9:58] got [clears throat] Orchard Hills and

[9:59] Apple Valley taken care of with a few

[10:02] minor changes.

[10:03] But uh Santaquin Elementary is always

[10:06] kind of a hot topic and always kind of

[10:09] been an issue.

[10:10] And so we discussed this at length, but

[10:13] uh they wanted to

[10:15] they didn't call it table, but we would

[10:16] call it table it for future meetings

[10:19] because it was outside the scope of what

[10:20] we were talking about. So, I thought the

[10:23] next time I don't have a date on this

[10:25] meeting, but uh I thought that it would

[10:27] be a good idea if Jason and John

[10:30] went with me to that meeting and see if

[10:31] there's something we can do to help them

[10:32] out over there.

[10:34] I would be hesitant hesitant to

[10:38] make any major changes without the

[10:40] school district's buy-in

[10:42] because unless they

[10:44] disperse the kids in a different manner,

[10:47] I think it's going to have the same

[10:48] bottleneck effect on traffic.

[10:51] >> How did they compute the disbursement or

[10:54] the collection of kids to the schools?

[10:59] >> You know, I

[11:01] maybe Councilman Meekam can expand on

[11:03] this, but I'm not exactly sure of their

[11:04] safety policies and procedures, but I

[11:07] understand is they don't want any access

[11:09] into the school district property. Like

[11:12] I don't know if you remember, but on the

[11:13] north side of Santaquin Elementary,

[11:15] there used to be a couple of pedestrian

[11:17] gates over there and they've since taken

[11:19] them out. I understand they had a

[11:20] district

[11:22] policy change at some point.

[11:24] And so they all want them coming out the

[11:26] same way out of the same doors.

[11:28] So, um

[11:31] I I think that needs to be

[11:33] because I don't know of a great solution

[11:35] with with without

[11:38] some sort of modification to that

[11:39] policy.

[11:40] >> Did they direct you with anything that

[11:42] came from the school district to change this year?

[11:48] >> Not from

[11:49] I do have a couple changes from the

[11:50] other schools.

[11:51] >> Okay.

[11:53] So Chief, just to be clear also, the the

[11:55] district is the one that sets the safe

[11:57] routes. They they they in concert with

[11:59] us of everything from signage to to

[12:02] crosswalks and other things. They're the

[12:03] ones that set the routes rather than us.

[12:06] >> Generally Generally speaking, yes, but

[12:08] we do have a little bit of obviously

[12:10] what's at least school property. We do

[12:11] have a little bit of input on that.

[12:14] But But you need it it needs to be a

[12:15] partnership.

[12:16] >> Right.

[12:18] Okay.

[12:19] >> Any other questions or concerns?

[12:20] >> Well, I I just wanted you to report on

[12:23] that meeting that you went to because

[12:24] now we're going to hear if there are

[12:26] other things that we need to act upon

[12:29] or that need to be taken before the the

[12:32] school district.

[12:33] >> Okay.

[12:33] >> So that we can take care of it before

[12:35] school starts.

[12:37] >> Okay.

[12:37] >> There's no problem the money can't fix,

[12:39] Mayor.

[12:40] >> [laughter]

[12:41] >> So true.

[12:42] >> Really?

[12:45] » Huh.

[12:46] Oh, that hurts.

[12:48] >> [laughter]

[12:49] >> I I'm sorry. I forgot your name.

[12:52] >> I'm Valerie.

[12:53] >> Yeah. Would you come up and introduce

[12:56] yourself? And I know you have a

[12:57] presentation.

[12:59] >> Yes.

[13:00] So I think maybe some of wires got

[13:01] crossed because I had asked

[13:03] to do a presentation

[13:05] for a couple of

[13:08] school issues that we've been having

[13:09] [clears throat] or discussing.

[13:12] But safe routes is one of them. So I'm

[13:14] glad that you're here to clarify some of

[13:16] that.

[13:17] Um

[13:18] >> Hang on just a second. Let me get you

[13:19] see if I can get you

[13:28] » [snorts]

[13:39] » Is that yours?

[13:40] >> Yes, that's mine.

[13:43] So, [snorts] okay.

[13:45] Um, my name is Mallory Durrant. I know a

[13:49] few of you. I am a resident here in

[13:51] Santaquin.

[13:52] Um, I have four kids at home who as of

[13:56] this next school year will be attending

[13:58] Santaquin Elementary School and I am the

[14:00] PTA safety officer there. I would never

[14:03] take on the role of PTA president.

[14:05] >> [laughter]

[14:06] >> I will leave that for my friend

[14:08] Andrea [clears throat] here.

[14:10] Um, but I do have a background in safety

[14:12] and emergency management. I've actually

[14:14] worked with Art on a few things. Um, and

[14:17] then my partner in crime here is Andrea

[14:19] Howard. She is the art teacher at

[14:22] Santaquin Elementary. She has two kids.

[14:25] Um, one of them just graduated from

[14:26] Santaquin. The other is still here at

[14:28] Santaquin. Um, and she has held multiple

[14:31] positions in the PTA including the best

[14:34] PTA president we've had. So, she's here

[14:37] to represent the school.

[14:39] Uh, both of us have discussed and had

[14:41] meetings with Miss Ribble who is the

[14:43] elementary school principal.

[14:45] Um, she is fully supportive of

[14:47] everything that we are presenting here

[14:48] today, but she was not able to attend.

[14:52] So, for this presentation, I'm going to

[14:55] present our requests in two phases, but

[14:58] we can take a break in between the two

[14:59] to discuss the differences in them and

[15:02] what we're asking for.

[15:04] Um, also I call them phases, but

[15:06] ultimately they are just two separate

[15:08] requests for things to be done here in

[15:10] Santaquin to make the school safer.

[15:13] Um,

[15:15] so, that's where we're at. So, our first

[15:17] request is for infrastructure

[15:19] improvements along the elementary

[15:20] school's dedicated safe routes path.

[15:23] Um

[15:25] last year at the beginning of the school

[15:28] year, I sent an email to each of you

[15:30] informing you of the serious issues that

[15:32] we were running into at Santaquin

[15:34] Elementary, and I'm really appreciative

[15:36] because a lot of those issues were

[15:38] addressed and we were very grateful, but

[15:40] there are still many safety concerns

[15:43] when it comes to Santaquin Elementary,

[15:45] and that includes student near misses,

[15:48] there's a lack of signage and crosswalk

[15:50] issues that have been major concerns

[15:52] over this last school year.

[15:54] Um that we are trying to get addressed

[15:57] before this new school year starts.

[16:01] So, to walk you through it a little bit,

[16:03] one of our big biggest concerns um is

[16:06] for a stop sign at the school T.

[16:10] Uh the T intersection near Santaquin

[16:11] Elementary currently lacks clear

[16:14] control, it creates confusion for all of

[16:17] the drivers, the parents, and the

[16:19] students walking.

[16:21] Um

[16:22] there are a lot of issues that if you go

[16:25] on any given school morning or afternoon

[16:28] during drop-off or pick-up, you will see

[16:30] the issues at that specific school T.

[16:34] >> Is that one Okay, I was just about to

[16:35] ask which

[16:36] There's multiple T's on there, I don't

[16:38] know which one it is.

[16:39] >> right there

[16:40] um on 100 South and 400 West.

[16:42] >> I was wondering what was going on.

[16:44] >> So,

[16:46] I wanted to just discuss these areas and

[16:47] signs. Now, these pictures were pulled

[16:49] off of Google Maps, so they're a little

[16:52] outdated, but the first one is

[16:55] um where a sign used to be several years

[16:58] ago. There used to be a stop sign there.

[17:00] Nobody knows Nobody can seem to tell us

[17:03] where that stop sign went. Um

[17:06] the where that is circled, where there

[17:08] used to be a stop sign, is a sign saying

[17:12] it is a one-way street on 400 West

[17:15] between 8:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. only for

[17:19] that

[17:20] block.

[17:21] Only for that specific block.

[17:23] Um which is also confusing because only

[17:25] that portion of the street is one way,

[17:26] not the entire street in front of the

[17:28] school.

[17:29] Now, we are hoping to get a large stop

[17:32] sign right here.

[17:34] Um between this building and the

[17:37] library, the stop sign is bolted partway

[17:40] into the street. Um and that we feel

[17:43] should be an option for the school

[17:45] because this gravel area in front of it

[17:49] is where people park to drop off and

[17:51] pick up their kids. So, putting it off

[17:54] to the side by the sidewalk will not be

[17:58] very visible.

[18:00] So, I just wanted to bring that up as

[18:02] well. Um

[18:04] and then over there on the side is the

[18:07] exit of the school where the cars exit

[18:10] the roundabout when they do drop off,

[18:12] they turn left, and that causes extra

[18:14] traffic issues. And this especially

[18:16] causes problems when there are three

[18:18] ways of traffic crossing with no stops.

[18:22] Everyone is fighting for their in. Um

[18:25] and that's directly where the children

[18:26] cross to go to school. And you can see

[18:28] on both sides there are white lines

[18:30] where the children cross.

[18:31] And um

[18:33] no signage saying stop, pause, yield,

[18:37] anything for the kids.

[18:40] So.

[18:42] That is um one of our

[18:45] signage issues that we're running into.

[18:48] Another one is there is on the exit from

[18:52] the school, there is a no or a right

[18:55] turn only. If you can see, it is very

[18:57] small. It is tucked behind the um

[19:01] Tabitha Way box, which distracts from

[19:03] the sign itself, and it is not

[19:07] adhered to. Nobody has Very few people

[19:11] seem to care that it is there. We would

[19:14] like a great big large high visibility

[19:17] sign there that says no left turn or

[19:20] right turn only.

[19:23] Um now, the signage around the school is

[19:28] an issue that we want to resolve, but in

[19:30] addition to that

[19:32] the state law for the safe routes um

[19:36] is that students have a designated safe

[19:38] route for walking.

[19:41] Now, we have three options for that. It

[19:45] is Main Street, it is 100 and it is 200

[19:49] South. Um we are not going to use Main

[19:51] Street. And just so you know, I'm on

[19:53] Community Council. We discuss this in

[19:55] length every year. I've been on

[19:56] Community Council for 4 years. This has

[19:59] been brought up

[20:00] every single year. Um

[20:03] So, I just want to give that background,

[20:05] but uh we're not able to use Main

[20:07] Street. That's obvious.

[20:09] We don't want to use 200 South for the

[20:12] safe route for multiple reasons, but

[20:14] including um the lack of stop signs east

[20:17] to west and then the run from Rally's

[20:20] Red Barn at higher speeds. We want to

[20:23] keep it at the lower speeds. So, our

[20:25] only really good option is 100 South,

[20:29] which makes sense. That's directly in

[20:30] front of the school. On 100 South, we

[20:33] have the school, we have the park, we

[20:35] have the Chief Can Museum, we have the

[20:36] City Community Center, and we have the

[20:38] City Library. All of which are used as

[20:40] kids go to and from school and after

[20:42] school activities.

[20:44] So,

[20:46] the issue we're running into is that

[20:48] there is not a safe good path to get

[20:52] from the school up to the library. We

[20:54] don't currently have a sidewalk that is

[20:59] straight from the school up to the

[21:00] library. It varies on different sides of

[21:02] the street. A lot of times it is

[21:04] overgrown from the homes there covered

[21:07] in bushes.

[21:09] In places like the where those the

[21:12] gravel area where um people park,

[21:14] anytime that it is winter and there's

[21:16] snow on that, those portions don't get

[21:18] plowed and so the kids are forced to

[21:20] walk directly in the street instead of

[21:23] on the sides. Um

[21:26] So, those are just some of the issues

[21:28] we're running into with our safe routes.

[21:32] So, now I just wanted to make it very

[21:36] clear what I'm talk talking about. So,

[21:38] this first circle is where the school

[21:40] does its own crossing guards.

[21:43] Um those were the two crosswalks we

[21:46] have. Now, under state law

[21:48] [clears throat]

[21:48] um it's local highway authority is

[21:51] supposed to pay for and supervise

[21:52] crossing guards if it falls under the

[21:55] primary entity of the city, which um

[21:59] which it only falls under reduced speed

[22:01] zones. But, we don't even have a reduced

[22:04] speed zone by that school.

[22:07] It's still the normal speed zones. So,

[22:10] I just wanted to point that out that

[22:11] where our kids don't even have a stop

[22:13] sign, there's no reduced speed zone.

[22:16] Um

[22:18] that intersection not being a reduced

[22:20] speed zone is an issue,

[22:23] but

[22:25] we're not we're not even asking the city

[22:27] to formally extend the school zone to

[22:29] cover this hazard. We're just asking that you guys

[22:33] put in the signage to make it safe.

[22:35] >> [clears throat]

[22:35] >> Um

[22:37] in addition to that,

[22:40] all of these red circles from the school

[22:43] up to the library

[22:46] have no crosswalks.

[22:48] Um the green circle is the current only

[22:51] one that has two white lines making it a

[22:54] crosswalk crossing the street east to

[22:57] west.

[22:59] Um that's also the one nearest to the

[23:01] police station. So, we're asking that we

[23:03] get dedicated crosswalks from the school

[23:07] up to the library on each of those

[23:09] intersections from east to west.

[23:16] Um so, this comes directly from the safe

[23:19] routes website.

[23:21] I emailed you guys

[23:24] a few months ago about a grant that I'm

[23:27] hoping that the city can apply for this

[23:29] summer fall or the summer and fall.

[23:32] We've been working with Travis Kill on

[23:33] it. Um it won't open until the end of

[23:36] summer and it would get more money to

[23:39] initiate better safety protocols.

[23:42] Um however, one we aren't guaranteed to

[23:45] get it and two, it has a a 2-year time

[23:48] period it takes to implement those

[23:50] changes. And so, for now I'm trying to

[23:53] just propose the most cost-efficient

[23:56] changes that could benefit the kids and

[23:59] the community really um prior to us even

[24:02] putting in this grant application and

[24:04] prior to the new school year starting.

[24:07] Um

[24:08] so, I just want to pause here for a

[24:10] moment and ask if you have any questions

[24:12] or any aspect of this phase that you

[24:15] want to discuss before I talk about

[24:17] phase two.

[24:20] » Does anybody have any questions?

[24:22] >> And maybe to address um Officer Hurst or

[24:26] Chief Hurst, it is my understanding what

[24:29] we were told in school community

[24:30] council, anything at the school

[24:33] is the responsibility of the school

[24:35] district. Everything else is the

[24:37] responsibility of the city. The school,

[24:39] we are required as a school community

[24:41] council to present the safest option and

[24:44] then we're asked to work with the city

[24:46] to make sure that safe option is known

[24:49] to you.

[24:50] Um so, that that's my understanding. I

[24:53] don't

[24:55] >> Most part yes.

[24:56] >> Okay.

[24:57] >> Maybe just as a clarification, when

[24:58] you're talking about new crosswalks at

[25:01] Was it 200 West and 100 West?

[25:04] Are you just wanting them painted or are

[25:05] you looking for someone to man those

[25:07] crosswalks during school?

[25:08] >> No, we're looking for it to be painted

[25:10] and appropriate signage showing that

[25:12] they are crosswalks and that children

[25:14] will be crossing there. Um, for an

[25:17] actual crossing guard, there is

[25:21] a requirement depending on the the speed

[25:24] that I was talking about earlier and so

[25:27] it's not necessarily

[25:28] to that point, I would say.

[25:33] » Okay.

[25:34] >> All right, matter.

[25:35] >> Phase two.

[25:36] >> Okay, so phase two.

[25:39] Um,

[25:40] the next thing we are requesting is

[25:42] implementation of the NOVA program into

[25:45] Santaquin elementary schools.

[25:48] NOVA stands for nurturing opportunities,

[25:50] values, and accountability.

[25:53] So, this is an elementary school program

[25:56] that works with fifth graders and it is

[25:58] actually very widespread throughout Utah

[26:00] County as well as Davis and Salt Lake

[26:02] Counties. Um, surrounding areas to us

[26:05] have regular preventive curriculum with

[26:07] local law enforcement. Our own Travis

[26:09] Kill was a NOVA instructor at Payson.

[26:12] >> This is uh

[26:15] Park View Elementary and Spring Lake

[26:17] Elementary.

[26:17] >> Okay.

[26:18] So, um, I had a meeting with Mr. Lyman

[26:22] Gifford, who is the program director and

[26:25] in that meeting I found out that in Utah

[26:27] County alone, Payson, Spanish Fork,

[26:30] Springville, Pleasant Grove, Mapleton,

[26:32] Elk Ridge, Genola, Goshen, Cedar Fort,

[26:35] Fairfield, and Eureka all use NOVA as

[26:38] their primary preventive curriculum.

[26:41] Nephi does as well.

[26:43] So, ultimately all surrounding areas use

[26:45] this program and Santaquin currently has

[26:48] no preventive curriculum program that we

[26:50] are using.

[26:52] Um the Nephi Police Department um is one

[26:55] of the few police departments that

[26:56] actually maintain a robust school

[26:58] resource officer program with officers

[27:01] that actually go and

[27:03] work in the elementary schools uh to

[27:06] maintain regular interaction. We do not

[27:08] have that in Santaquin. Um we do reach

[27:11] out to Santaquin police and we try to

[27:13] get interaction with them, but it is

[27:15] difficult to get them there on occasion

[27:17] because of their workload.

[27:19] So,

[27:21] with 180 schools across Utah that are

[27:23] already seeing the benefits of NOvA, we

[27:26] would like Santaquin Elementary to be

[27:28] the pilot for our city. Um

[27:31] this is not testing a new theory. This

[27:33] is an adoption of a proven Utah success

[27:37] story to ensure that our kids have the

[27:38] same safety and character tools as kids

[27:42] in Provo, in Spanish Fork, in Salt Lake

[27:44] City.

[27:45] Um it's a program that focuses on

[27:47] prevention and teaching kids to make

[27:49] right choices before a crisis occurs,

[27:52] but it will also build community trust

[27:54] and turning police officers from a

[27:56] figure of authority that are only seen

[27:58] during trouble

[28:00] into teachers and mentors seen every

[28:02] week at school.

[28:06] So, why this matters.

[28:09] On the first side, this graphic was

[28:11] taken directly from the 2025 Santaquin

[28:14] Police Department annual report. And

[28:16] this report shows that in Santaquin

[28:18] alone in 2025, 30% of arrests in

[28:21] Santaquin were of juveniles under the

[28:23] age of 19.

[28:26] On the other side, I pulled statistics

[28:27] from multiple different places to find

[28:29] the national average of youth arrests.

[28:31] The national average for youth arrests

[28:33] is 7%.

[28:35] This shows us that overall, Santaquin

[28:37] youth have a 429%

[28:40] higher likelihood of arrest than the

[28:42] average youth in the United States. That

[28:44] is nearly four and a half times more

[28:46] likely.

[28:49] A youth arrest rate that is more than

[28:50] four times the national average isn't

[28:52] just a statistic, it is a warning light.

[28:55] It tells us that too many young people

[28:57] in our community are crossing paths with

[28:58] the justice system long before they

[29:01] should and that the current approach

[29:02] isn't catching problems early enough.

[29:05] A prevention focused police program in

[29:07] the school becomes essential because it

[29:09] shifts the dynamic from reacting to

[29:11] arrests to building relationships,

[29:14] teaching skills, and intervening before

[29:16] a crisis ever happens.

[29:18] So, when police officers are present as

[29:20] mentors and educators, rather than only

[29:22] responders, students gain trust,

[29:25] guidance, and positive connections that

[29:27] reduce the likelihood of ever entering

[29:29] that 30% category.

[29:31] So, this statistic makes the case very

[29:33] clearly to me. If you want different

[29:36] outcomes, you need early, consistent,

[29:38] and constructive engagement right where

[29:40] the kids spend most of their time, which

[29:42] is at the schools.

[29:46] So,

[29:47] the program investment um House Bill 40

[29:50] this year allocated 25 plus million

[29:52] dollars for school safety, but they

[29:54] leave the responsibility of prevention

[29:56] programs to individual cities.

[29:59] So,

[30:00] >> [clears throat]

[30:00] >> what we are proposing today and asking

[30:03] is whether or not Santaquin would be

[30:04] willing to implement this program in a

[30:06] sustainable way to get it into our

[30:08] schools and help our local youth.

[30:11] Now, here's the cost breakdown, which I

[30:13] got from my meeting with Mr. Gifford.

[30:15] The cost to start the program is $3,000.

[30:18] This covers a one-year licensing fee,

[30:20] which is $500, and covers all the

[30:23] curriculum, handouts, and educational

[30:25] materials.

[30:26] 1,500 of that goes to the reusable kit

[30:29] that is used in lessons.

[30:31] And finally, $1,000 is the cost to train

[30:34] one instructor.

[30:36] Um luckily, they don't have to go

[30:37] anywhere to be trained. After COVID,

[30:39] they made this a fully online program or

[30:41] online online training with the only

[30:44] exception being that the final module is

[30:46] live.

[30:48] It takes an officer 30 hours to complete

[30:51] the training, and if it is taught by the

[30:53] same officer every year, then they are

[30:54] automatically recertified. If they miss

[30:57] a year of training, they have to get

[30:58] recertified.

[31:02] So, the ongoing cost or yearly cost is

[31:05] the annual $500

[31:07] license plus supplies, which are not

[31:10] required, but they are strongly

[31:11] recommended. So, these are things like

[31:13] incentives for the kids such as awards,

[31:16] graduation treats, um t-shirts,

[31:18] stickers. Now, for Santaquin Elementary,

[31:21] I have a safety budget that could pay

[31:23] for those

[31:24] rewards um or incentives. Uh we've

[31:27] estimated that to be roughly $100 to

[31:29] $150 a year.

[31:31] Each lesson is 1 hour, and there are 13

[31:34] lessons per class.

[31:36] So, this is a program for fifth graders

[31:37] only. At Santaquin Elementary, we have

[31:40] three fifth grade classes.

[31:42] It would be roughly an officer being

[31:45] there for 3 hours, or if we can't swing

[31:47] that, we could try to house them

[31:48] together and do it all together, but

[31:50] that is a lot of

[31:52] fifth graders for one officer.

[31:54] Uh for anyone really. I've been around

[31:55] them. It's a lot for

[31:57] one person.

[31:58] Um

[32:00] you have to factor in graduation and

[32:02] prep time. And so, this is something

[32:04] that would only be worth it if we commit

[32:06] to it long-term. It would be a waste of

[32:08] money to do it for 1 or 2 years and then

[32:11] discontinue. Uh the biggest

[32:12] consideration here is ensuring that the

[32:14] police department can consistently run

[32:16] this program.

[32:17] If a certified officer transfers, only

[32:20] the training portion, that $1,000 need

[32:23] reinvestment, which protects 66% of the

[32:26] program's initial value.

[32:29] So,

[32:30] we are looking for a budget for this

[32:32] prevention and education program. And if

[32:35] we don't have it, is there a way that we

[32:37] can create a budget to make this happen

[32:39] for the upcoming school year?

[32:42] Um

[32:45] >> [clears throat]

[32:45] >> Also, I want to go back because there

[32:47] were some things I was looking into. I

[32:50] don't know a lot about them, but the

[32:51] Utah STEM Action Center often provides

[32:54] community impact sponsorships for

[32:56] organizations for learning opportunities

[32:59] outside standard curriculum. I was told

[33:02] that some police departments in Utah

[33:05] applied for a JAG formula grant to cover

[33:07] the recurring costs of instructions and

[33:09] materials.

[33:11] Um

[33:11] I'm not saying it has to come directly

[33:13] from the city budget, but I think there

[33:15] are avenues that could be taken to find

[33:17] the money for this.

[33:20] So,

[33:21] ultimately

[33:23] the program will require a real

[33:25] commitment from Santaquin City and from

[33:28] the Santaquin Police Department. Right

[33:30] now, our community is falling short when

[33:32] it comes to meaningful officer student

[33:34] engagement. Our officers work very hard

[33:37] and I deeply respect them, but our

[33:39] schools are not receiving the consistent

[33:41] presence or support that our kids need.

[33:44] We have no school resource officers at

[33:45] our elementary schools. We have no

[33:47] regular interaction with municipal

[33:49] authorities aside from if an incident

[33:51] occurs at the schools, and that impact

[33:53] shows in our youth arrest rates.

[33:57] Um

[33:58] So,

[34:00] a structured prevention program would

[34:02] finally give our schools the consistent

[34:04] police presence our students deserve.

[34:07] Even something as simple as a patrol car

[34:09] parked in the school lot has been shown

[34:10] to deter negative behavior. And so, we

[34:13] want to do everything we can to make

[34:14] this happen, but without a formal

[34:16] commitment, our kids will continue to

[34:19] miss out on the positive relationships

[34:20] that keep them safe, confident, and

[34:23] connected. And our arrest rates for our

[34:25] youth will not improve.

[34:28] So, just to show you the benefits of

[34:30] using this as an ongoing investment.

[34:32] We'll have student engagement, building

[34:34] that trust between uh the local youth

[34:37] and the law enforcement from an early

[34:39] age. We will have a community impact by

[34:41] lowering the disproportionate juvenile

[34:43] arrest rates. And then we will be

[34:45] equipping our students and our our kids

[34:48] with practical life skills and safety

[34:50] knowledge.

[34:56] So, to conclude, I just want to end with

[34:57] some of my favorite quotes.

[34:59] Um [clears throat]

[35:00] as Franklin Delano Roosevelt said, we

[35:02] cannot always build the future for our

[35:04] youth, but we can build our youth for

[35:06] the future. And I think that with these

[35:08] changes implemented in Santaquin, we

[35:10] would be doing exactly that.

[35:14] » Okay.

[35:15] >> Thank you for allowing me to come

[35:16] present this.

[35:18] >> Thank you.

[35:19] >> Do you have any questions or concerns?

[35:22] >> I have a question. So, how many total

[35:26] officer hours a year is this?

[35:29] >> So, it depends on how we implement it.

[35:32] >> But if it if it was like it was like how

[35:35] you said like

[35:36] not combining the classes.

[35:38] >> So, if not combining the classes, it

[35:39] would be 13 weeks with an hour per

[35:44] class, which is three classes. So, 3 *

[35:46] 13, and then we need to

[35:49] add in some prep time and probably a

[35:52] graduation day.

[35:54] Or I mean, the PTAs really could handle

[35:57] the graduation, but I'm sure they would

[35:58] love to see that officer that taught

[36:00] them the program give them their

[36:02] certificates.

[36:03] >> Do you do you put that over a whole

[36:06] year?

[36:07] >> Yes.

[36:07] >> September through

[36:08] >> Yep, September through May would be over

[36:11] those 13 weeks.

[36:13] >> Can I give you some input there?

[36:14] >> I think you've done this before.

[36:16] >> I've done this for many years.

[36:19] So, the NOVO program

[36:21] actually works better if you do it once

[36:23] a week.

[36:25] Uh if you do it right, you can cut it

[36:26] down to about 10 lessons. You can do the

[36:29] graduation during class. The teachers

[36:31] like it more that way because

[36:33] there's some tips and tricks that you

[36:35] can cut down your time and still

[36:37] maintain that level of

[36:39] the impact that you're looking for.

[36:42] A lot of officers, when I did it, I did

[36:44] all that prep time while I was on duty.

[36:45] And a lot of times that I taught this class while I

[36:50] was on duty, so it didn't require

[36:51] overtime.

[36:52] That'd be something that they'd have to

[36:54] work their schedules through.

[36:56] The whole idea of the NO

[36:58] principles program, as what it's called,

[37:00] is it teaches nine principles. And it's

[37:02] The idea is to teach kids how to think,

[37:04] not what to think.

[37:06] And

[37:07] I swear by it.

[37:09] I think it I think that it's totally

[37:11] worth the investment.

[37:14] Uh, I was disappointed that my kids didn't

[37:18] have this going to Santaquin, to the

[37:19] point that I took my kids with me to

[37:22] Payson to teach my own kids this class.

[37:25] I'd love to see this in Santaquin. Even

[37:27] though my kids don't go to school here

[37:28] anymore, they've all aged out.

[37:31] And I think, Mayor, I have an idea if we

[37:33] could meet later that

[37:35] I think there's a way that we could find

[37:36] some money for this.

[37:37] >> Well, there's

[37:38] The thing that I have going through my

[37:40] head is we have [clears throat] three

[37:42] schools. In fact, we have four schools.

[37:45] And, uh,

[37:48] is it that you want to focus on one, or

[37:50] do you want to make sure that you do

[37:51] them all? And what's the cost overall?

[37:54] And

[37:54] >> So, we're asking that Santaquin

[37:56] Elementary be the pilot program uh, for

[37:59] this school year.

[38:00] And then hopefully that it can be

[38:02] rewritten into the budget every year to

[38:05] increase to the rest of Santaquin.

[38:07] >> Okay, so there's there's a budget

[38:10] implication of only the $3,000

[38:13] up front, but there's also the time and

[38:16] the scheduling impact that we need to

[38:18] figure out, too.

[38:19] >> So, So program is what I showed the

[38:22] budget for, which is simply the program.

[38:24] The officers and their pay were not

[38:27] included in that because I am not super

[38:29] privy to that and

[38:31] >> they still have to be paid for the work

[38:33] they do.

[38:34] >> And yeah, so it is a budget

[38:37] >> Right.

[38:37] >> that we need to

[38:37] >> Mhm.

[38:38] >> and have it worked on. So

[38:41] >> And and I understand that you guys were

[38:44] talking about budget prior to this and

[38:46] money is always an issue.

[38:48] >> Okay.

[38:48] >> I also know that as the PTA safety

[38:51] officer, I have tried to set up officer

[38:54] interactions at

[38:57] for the last 4 years.

[38:59] I have watched kids shrink away and cry

[39:02] and run out of the room when a police

[39:04] officer approaches them because they are

[39:06] so terrified.

[39:08] Even when the officers are doing

[39:10] all of the right things, getting on eye

[39:12] level, speaking softly, trying to show

[39:14] them they're a friend.

[39:16] But kids who are fourth and fifth grade

[39:18] and have had no interaction with police

[39:20] prior to this are already at the point

[39:23] where they're scared and they view

[39:25] police officers as the enemy.

[39:28] Getting officers in our schools early

[39:30] will stop not stop this, but it will be

[39:33] an avenue to have better interactions

[39:36] with them.

[39:37] They come to our school. We'll pay for

[39:38] them to have lunch with the kids. You

[39:40] know, [clears throat] we'll we'll do

[39:42] whatever we can. We invite the officers

[39:44] every year to come to recesses, to come

[39:47] to lunch.

[39:48] And due to their scheduling, it's hard

[39:51] to get them there.

[39:52] When they come, it's hugely impactful on

[39:56] our students.

[39:58] We would love to see a formal commitment

[40:00] to them coming

[40:02] so that we can make it happen

[40:03] continuously throughout the year and not

[40:05] just once a week during safety week when

[40:08] I'm asking and requesting them to come.

[40:11] >> I would like to throw my two cents worth

[40:12] in as a an educator and a former a in

[40:15] Nebo School District. Um I fought really

[40:18] hard to have a full-time officer in my

[40:20] school at Landmark High School.

[40:23] And I finally got it and

[40:25] made a world of difference. Um if we can

[40:28] pull this off and I know it's

[40:30] uh Chief First is going to have to have

[40:31] say on this and how it's going to work,

[40:33] but if we can make this happen,

[40:35] so worth it for our children. We we need

[40:38] to figure out a way to get the officers

[40:39] in more. It just works. It does.

[40:41] >> Well, and this is so much more than just

[40:43] getting an officer in a class. I don't

[40:45] Nobody knows this, but when

[40:47] they graduated the uh

[40:49] the student academy that they did, there

[40:52] was a young man in here that was in my

[40:53] NOVA class when he was in sixth grade.

[40:56] And he graduated from high school last

[40:58] year and we had a great relationship all

[41:00] through the his years in high school and

[41:02] it was because of the NOVA program. This

[41:04] is about building relationships.

[41:05] >> Yeah.

[41:06] >> With kids and they they do see officers

[41:08] in a different light and they remember

[41:09] their NOVA instructors.

[41:11] And I I think it's a worthwhile and it's

[41:13] worth us figuring this out.

[41:16] >> Agreed.

[41:19] » This is certainly one of those things

[41:20] that we haven't talked about and uh

[41:23] yeah, one of those things that it sounds

[41:25] like we need to make some decision on.

[41:29] Um I know we're not ready to do it

[41:31] tonight and we've only got 2 months

[41:33] before school starts.

[41:35] And uh

[41:37] 13 weeks doesn't take all of that and it

[41:40] may be a week later or something like

[41:42] that depending on the time,

[41:45] but uh I would suggest that we make this

[41:49] a a topic

[41:51] with some more information that we have

[41:53] over the next

[41:55] year or the next

[41:57] uh month so that

[41:59] in the first meeting in

[42:02] July,

[42:04] we should be able to look at it and and

[42:06] a couple of other things and maybe have

[42:08] a pathway to

[42:10] how can we pay for this

[42:12] and make it work, you know?

[42:15] The kids are our community. Everything

[42:17] we do, we should be doing for the safety

[42:19] and the well-being of the kids.

[42:23] And um

[42:25] I think if if you guys, especially where

[42:28] you've worked in education,

[42:31] I don't [clears throat] know if you ever

[42:32] graduated in this

[42:33] and in law enforcement and I know you're

[42:35] retired, so

[42:37] but you guys have a good outlook on this

[42:40] with Chief here tonight

[42:43] knowing

[42:44] maybe what we need to look at and maybe

[42:46] even coming up with a plan. How could we

[42:48] make something like this work? In the

[42:50] meantime, we'll have a couple of work

[42:52] sessions and then hopefully have

[42:54] something that we can present in the

[42:56] next couple of weeks.

[42:58] 3 weeks maybe before the first meeting

[43:00] in July. So

[43:05] would that work?

[43:06] >> Yes, and I'm available for any questions

[43:09] or issues. Andrea

[43:11] knows all the things about the school as

[43:13] well. Um we are very dedicated in

[43:17] wanting this to happen.

[43:19] Um this and, you know, the crosswalks

[43:22] and the stop signs and and whatnot. So

[43:24] >> We just don't want to paint paint

[43:26] gravel. We we'll have to figure that out

[43:29] so it's a little more permanent.

[43:31] >> Yeah.

[43:32] >> Okay. Yes, but yes, whatever you guys

[43:35] need on my end

[43:37] um and the school, we Ms. Rimmel was

[43:40] very much

[43:41] um an advocate for this as well. So

[43:44] >> Melanie, can you can you send your

[43:46] slides to Norm so that we could have a

[43:48] copy to be able to

[43:50] you know, go by there and and you know,

[43:52] navigate it if that's helpful. That

[43:54] would be helpful.

[43:54] >> Yep, no problem.

[43:56] Um

[43:57] I'll need your email address.

[43:59] >> Okay.

[44:01] Thank you. Thank you for being here

[44:03] tonight.

[44:04] >> for listening.

[44:06] >> All right. Uh building permits.

[44:15] » Yeah, Mayor [clears throat] and Council,

[44:16] I just noticed you bringing that up.

[44:18] I'll I guess I'll just verbally tell

[44:19] you. Uh right now for the calendar year,

[44:22] we're currently at 150 new residential

[44:25] dwelling units made up of 73 single

[44:27] family and 77 multi-family.

[44:30] At this time last calendar year, we were

[44:31] 157, so

[44:34] right around the same. Uh

[44:36] kind of on the same pace.

[44:38] >> [clears throat]

[44:38] >> Fiscal year wise, we're a little bit

[44:40] behind where we were. We're about to

[44:42] wrap up the fiscal year. We've only got

[44:43] half a month left. Uh we're currently at

[44:45] 222

[44:47] made up of 117 single family, 105

[44:49] multi-family. Uh this time last fiscal

[44:52] year, we were up to 277, so uh

[44:56] but you can see previous years that

[44:59] we're kind of in the mid 200s anyway, so

[45:01] not not a not too far off of where where

[45:04] the average is.

[45:06] New business licenses, you can see the

[45:07] list there. Uh there's one new

[45:10] commercial that is a kind of a food

[45:12] truck uh for shakes and Iceberg. It's

[45:15] our understanding that that that food

[45:17] truck will be mostly up in Salt Lake

[45:18] County, but the the kind of

[45:20] um

[45:22] I don't know.

[45:23] The

[45:27] uh headquarters, if you will, or or kind

[45:29] of the where it's stationed is going to be

[45:31] out of Santaquin. And then there's the

[45:33] four home occupations, so I can answer

[45:35] any questions you have about those

[45:37] business licenses.

[45:38] >> first address?

[45:42] » Oh, looks like it looks like maybe a

[45:44] phone number got added into the address.

[45:46] That's basically the It should be the

[45:48] average address of the uh the the

[45:51] Iceberg that we have here. Yep.

[45:56] » Okay.

[45:58] Um

[46:00] that takes care of that.

[46:02] Resolution ordinance and discussion

[46:04] possible action on

[46:07] um

[46:09] the municipal wastewater planning

[46:12] program survey. [clears throat]

[46:16] » Now, Mayor and Council, this is

[46:18] yearly municipal wastewater planning

[46:21] program report that we have to do.

[46:23] Uh Jason Callaway, our public works

[46:25] director, has filled that out and

[46:26] submitted it to the state, and this is a

[46:28] resolution just indicating that we're

[46:31] um

[46:34] informing the water quality board that

[46:35] this is our survey. So, happy to answer

[46:39] any questions, and we have

[46:41] public works director Callaway here,

[46:42] too, as well.

[46:44] >> As I was reading through this survey and

[46:47] this questionnaire, I was just happy

[46:49] that it was Jason that had to fill it

[46:50] out and it wasn't me.

[46:52] >> There's a lot of boxes there.

[46:54] >> A lot of yeses all the way. A couple of

[46:56] no's.

[46:57] >> But I But I did I did make a a couple of

[47:00] notes. Um there's around 77 mi of sewer

[47:03] pipe in our town.

[47:05] I I tried to figure out where from

[47:08] Santaquin was 77 mi. Lagoon is 80 mi.

[47:12] So, we have enough sewer pipe to go from

[47:14] here to Lagoon if it was all in one

[47:16] straight line.

[47:17] Um that's that's pretty amazing.

[47:21] Fortunately, it doesn't all fail at the

[47:22] same time.

[47:24] And I guess we have about 5,500 and

[47:27] 85 equivalent residential connections.

[47:31] So,

[47:32] it's a lot of connections. And as Jason

[47:34] told me today, a lot of manholes.

[47:37] >> [clears throat]

[47:38] >> Thank you, Jason.

[47:39] >> Literally all downhill uphill from here

[47:43] to Lagoon. So, maybe if we did that,

[47:45] we'd fill the Great Salt Lake.

[47:48] >> It's downhill from here to the

[47:50] treatment plant.

[47:50] >> Yeah, there you go.

[47:53] Okay.

[47:54] Any questions on that?

[47:57] I know you have to do that about every

[47:59] year, don't you?

[48:02] So, I would entertain a motion on that

[48:04] resolution.

[48:07] >> Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion we approve

[48:09] resolution 0603-2026,

[48:12] municipal water wastewater planning

[48:15] program.

[48:17] >> Is there a second?

[48:19] >> I'll second.

[48:21] >> Moved and seconded. Brian?

[48:22] >> Aye.

[48:23] >> Art?

[48:23] >> Aye.

[48:24] >> Jeff?

[48:24] >> Aye.

[48:25] >> Lynn?

[48:25] >> Aye.

[48:26] >> Travis?

[48:26] >> Aye.

[48:27] >> Motion passed. Fee schedule update

[48:31] 604.

[48:33] >> Yeah, Mayor and Council, this is the

[48:35] annual, again, fee schedule update.

[48:39] Um there's quite a bit in here. One

[48:42] the

[48:43] main impetus of this is to just update

[48:45] our fee schedule for anything from

[48:47] street lights to signs to our annual

[48:50] cost of living adjustment to our

[48:52] utilities

[48:53] and other items that are in here. I'm

[48:55] happy to answer any questions that you

[48:56] have on it,

[48:57] but it's fairly straightforward.

[49:03] » Are there any?

[49:07] Okay, then I would entertain a motion on

[49:09] the fee schedule.

[49:15] » Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion we approve

[49:16] resolution 0604-2026,

[49:20] resolution establishing the fee schedule

[49:22] for Santaquin City.

[49:24] >> A motion, is there a second?

[49:28] >> I'll second.

[49:29] >> Moved and seconded. Travis?

[49:31] >> Aye.

[49:32] >> Lynn?

[49:33] >> Aye.

[49:33] >> Jeff?

[49:34] >> Aye.

[49:34] >> Art?

[49:34] >> Aye.

[49:35] >> Brian?

[49:35] >> Aye.

[49:36] >> Motion passed. Let's go to 605, the

[49:39] certified tax rate.

[49:42] >> Yeah, Mayor and Council, as indicated in

[49:44] the in the resolution, this is a

[49:46] resolution to adopt

[49:48] a certified tax rate as set forth by the

[49:52] state tax commission.

[49:56] The combined tax rate, should this be

[49:57] adopted, would be .00

[50:00] 1399.

[50:03] And

[50:07] the form that is provided by the state

[50:10] is behind that. Let me pull that up so

[50:12] you can see that as well. This is the

[50:13] actual official

[50:15] a form but from the state.

[50:17] This would adopt a uh

[50:20] the certified tax rate and would

[50:22] therefore put it towards the budget and

[50:25] should this be adopted tonight, the the

[50:28] uh truth in taxation

[50:30] for a potential property tax increase

[50:32] would be um

[50:34] no more and we move forward with a

[50:36] should the final budget be adopted and

[50:38] this be adopted tonight. Happy to answer

[50:39] any questions that you have about that.

[50:43] >> I did I did want to say um

[50:47] When we have to meet as a council

[50:52] in March and after February we've gone

[50:55] through

[50:57] tax preparation

[50:58] in order to look at what we have for

[51:01] revenues for the budget, which has to be

[51:03] pa- passed in

[51:06] April and then again in May and then

[51:08] again in the 1st of June and now one

[51:11] more time

[51:12] um

[51:13] we have to go through new laws that have

[51:16] been passed, which is called the truth

[51:18] in taxation.

[51:20] In order to get to those

[51:22] you either have to make some kind of an

[51:24] estimation of where you'll be

[51:27] when when the whole thing comes about or

[51:31] where this number lies. And so we try to

[51:34] outguess that number and say, "Well,

[51:36] according to

[51:38] uh

[51:39] cost of living, everything else

[51:42] in order for us to to hit where we stand

[51:46] what are we going to have to do? So, you

[51:48] enter in the first week of March, truth

[51:51] and taxation.

[51:53] Which is set up because we have to look

[51:55] at what this mill levy is going to do

[51:58] and you're trying to outguess

[52:01] the state and

[52:03] uh everyone else

[52:06] well in advance of this time of year.

[52:10] Now, the real trick is we don't get this

[52:13] number until last Thursday night at

[52:15] 4:00.

[52:16] >> Yeah.

[52:17] >> And we have to make a decision so that

[52:20] we can publish it and say, "Well, is

[52:23] everything that we looked at in

[52:25] accordance with

[52:27] how our budget laid out and where our

[52:31] expected revenues from this will be and

[52:34] if we're actually utilizing

[52:37] the amount of money that will come

[52:39] through that mill levy that's assessed.

[52:42] When when the

[52:45] bottom line came out that it was .0001.

[52:50] Uh what did that end up being? Like 33

[52:53] cents a month

[52:56] difference for the tax bill?

[52:59] >> I think it's about 16 cents.

[53:01] >> Yeah.

[53:01] >> A month difference.

[53:02] >> Yeah. 16 cents.

[53:04] >> On the average home per month.

[53:06] >> So,

[53:08] you know what? There's a lot of work to

[53:10] go through to come up with that even

[53:11] though it ends up

[53:13] um

[53:15] >> [cough and clears throat]

[53:16] >> Excuse me.

[53:19] Being 16,000, I think in the long run we

[53:22] look at the pros and cons of it. Are we

[53:24] looking after the money? I think we're

[53:27] being wise.

[53:29] Would we be asking for more if we stuck

[53:31] with the number that we had proposed

[53:33] because we had to look at the way the revenue was expected and everything

[53:38] else. I I believe we've we're looking at

[53:41] the right decision here. So,

[53:44] um

[53:46] in the end, it's a small amount of

[53:49] change in that mill levy. I think we're

[53:52] good to move forward and

[53:54] we can get away from the truth in

[53:56] taxation and just accept it and go.

[54:01] So.

[54:03] >> Can I Can I add some comments? Sure.

[54:05] >> Um

[54:07] I mean

[54:08] everybody loves a lower tax. Um and so

[54:11] maybe this is like really unpopular.

[54:13] Um

[54:14] uh

[54:16] but

[54:17] I've stated in past budget meetings

[54:19] I'm really a proponent of holding the

[54:21] rate

[54:22] steady. So, say for example, it's not

[54:24] 5%, it's 0.00 something percent, right?

[54:28] If it's 5% and it automatically goes

[54:30] down to 4%,

[54:32] I like holding the rate steady to 5% for

[54:35] example, that's an example.

[54:37] Um because that captures inflation. And

[54:40] I know that we're meeting our needs now,

[54:43] but what I worry about is that it's

[54:45] kicking the can down the road when there

[54:47] are

[54:48] expenses that will grow.

[54:50] Um

[54:51] Shannon has done an amazing job at

[54:54] finding so many savings uh

[54:56] opportunities.

[54:57] Um she's been amazing. When I've reached

[54:59] out to Shannon, always been responsive

[55:01] and crazy ideas that I have that

[55:03] probably are wild goose chases about can

[55:05] we save money on these fees? Can we save

[55:07] And so that's been really great, but

[55:10] eventually there's only so much saving

[55:12] you can do.

[55:13] Um

[55:15] and as our city grows and as there's

[55:16] additional expenses,

[55:18] um

[55:20] I I am a proponent of holding the tax

[55:23] rate steady,

[55:24] um which

[55:26] honestly is a tax increase because it

[55:28] automatically is going to go down with

[55:30] the typical assessment. Um but I view it

[55:33] as holding it the same, not going down

[55:35] or not going up.

[55:36] But I I We talked about it as a council

[55:39] before, but I like the idea of that

[55:42] because it doesn't result in a huge

[55:45] increase years later.

[55:47] Um and there's always things that I

[55:49] think we could set aside the money for.

[55:52] Um

[55:53] obviously I'm a conservative, so I'm

[55:55] hesitant about let's give more money to

[55:57] the government, we'll find millions of

[55:59] ways to spend it. But, I think that

[56:00] there's a lot of valid ways that we can

[56:02] spend it. One of the issues that was

[56:04] brought up was around employee benefits.

[56:09] And we cover the health care premium

[56:11] 100% for our um employees that have the

[56:15] opportunity to opt into that. I think

[56:17] that's a great benefit.

[56:19] Um but, I don't think that it's

[56:22] sustainable. And if we're going to

[56:24] include those in, even though we were

[56:26] able to find so many savings this year,

[56:28] which is amazing,

[56:30] I think that it's more sustainable to

[56:31] keep the tax rate steady, um

[56:34] in my opinion. I just wanted to voice

[56:35] that.

[56:37] >> Well, I I do want to say and I I was

[56:39] going to say this earlier and that is

[56:42] it all [clears throat] starts over again

[56:43] in February. And in March we make that

[56:46] decision one more time and you know

[56:50] I know it's a hit that we have to take

[56:53] because

[56:54] the majority of the residents don't

[56:57] understand all that you have to go

[56:59] through

[57:01] in order to to

[57:03] uh

[57:05] let the state know you're doing

[57:06] everything right, but also let the

[57:08] residents know in the taxes that they

[57:11] pay that we are

[57:13] watching over all of those continually.

[57:16] To me it's .0001

[57:19] and um

[57:22] I just think, okay, well, it's a breath

[57:24] of air, but it's only

[57:26] 16 cents.

[57:28] Okay.

[57:29] Well, next year it may be just a little

[57:32] bit more, but even at the very worst

[57:34] part we were only looking at

[57:37] price of a big gulp a month, you know.

[57:40] It may be a, you know,

[57:44] a little bit more the next time, but at

[57:46] least this time we can say, "Okay, we

[57:48] didn't have to do it." So,

[57:51] that's my feeling.

[57:54] Art?

[57:55] >> And in the resolution a third whereas

[57:57] says um acknowledging the fact that part

[58:00] of our communities in two counties and

[58:02] recognizes Utah County and Juab County.

[58:05] However, if you turn to the next page

[58:07] form PT 800, it only references Utah

[58:11] County at the top.

[58:13] >> Um yeah, they're all identical for both

[58:14] counties. The the rate the tax rate and

[58:16] everything will be identical and I

[58:18] apologize. I can pull that one up. I did

[58:20] not put it in the packet. Um let me let

[58:22] me pull that up really quick and I can

[58:24] show it here now.

[58:24] >> Just as long as as it's recognized and

[58:27] um

[58:28] >> It would be the same mill mill levy

[58:30] rate.

[58:31] Hang on just 1 second. I think it's

[58:32] around $1,000 total for

[58:35] and I apologize for not having that in

[58:36] there.

[58:41] » Issues we hope to resolve someday.

[58:44] >> Yes.

[58:45] >> Supposed to resolve it long ago.

[58:46] >> Yeah, that's what I thought.

[58:51] » [clears throat]

[58:52] >> Long as it's been recognized on that's

[58:53] fine. Thank you.

[58:54] >> I do want to show it though so that we

[58:56] have it in the in the in the minutes.

[58:58] So, let me just pull it up really quick.

[59:11] Apologize for that error. Hang on.

[59:49] » So, if I pull that form over here,

[59:50] you'll be able to see that that is

[59:54] the same It's It's about $1,070 and it

[59:57] would be the same tax rate as in Utah

[1:00:00] County. So, I apologize for that. We'll

[1:00:02] have that to the minutes as well.

[1:00:06] » Okay.

[1:00:06] >> I appreciate it.

[1:00:07] >> Any other questions?

[1:00:10] >> No.

[1:00:11] >> We good?

[1:00:12] Then, I would entertain a motion on

[1:00:16] the

[1:00:17] 0605.

[1:00:21] » I'll make a motion to approve resolution

[1:00:23] 0605-2026.

[1:00:26] » Motion made by Brian.

[1:00:28] >> I'll second.

[1:00:30] >> Seconded by Jeff Travis.

[1:00:32] >> I.

[1:00:33] >> Then?

[1:00:33] >> I.

[1:00:34] >> Jeff?

[1:00:35] >> I.

[1:00:35] >> Art?

[1:00:36] >> I.

[1:00:36] >> Brian?

[1:00:37] >> I.

[1:00:38] >> Thank you. Now, we need to go into adopt

[1:00:41] the resolution for the final bud- budget

[1:00:44] 0606.

[1:00:48] » So, mayor and council resolution 0606

[1:00:50] would be the adoption of a fiscal year

[1:00:51] budget based on two things that have

[1:00:53] already been approved. One is the the uh

[1:00:56] fee schedule update and the the one that

[1:00:58] we just passed was the uh certified tax

[1:01:00] rate. And the final budget has been

[1:01:02] presented. We spent quite a bit of time

[1:01:04] going over that in the in the work

[1:01:06] session. However, if anybody has any

[1:01:08] questions on those items that we talked

[1:01:10] about that are the changes from the

[1:01:12] tentative to the final, I I can answer

[1:01:14] Shannon can help answer those questions.

[1:01:17] >> Yeah, we went over over them in the

[1:01:19] preceding meeting. Is there anything

[1:01:22] else you want to go over?

[1:01:29] » Just if the council were to approve it,

[1:01:31] the motion would just need to include

[1:01:33] the three changes we talked about to the water,

[1:01:37] sewer, and the library fund.

[1:01:40] >> Li- library, right? Not

[1:01:41] >> No, it's it's the

[1:01:43] >> It's the li- library.

[1:01:45] >> Oh, it's the library. Yes, right.

[1:01:45] >> Library wages, yeah. Library wages.

[1:01:47] >> So, water, sewer, and the library fund.

[1:01:50] >> Those were the green cells. We can pull

[1:01:51] them back up again if you want to see

[1:01:53] them, but those were the three items.

[1:01:54] >> Three written there.

[1:01:55] >> Yeah, those are just changes from the um final budget that was sent out to

[1:01:59] you that need to be changed before we

[1:02:01] submit it to the state.

[1:02:06] » So, this is

[1:02:07] >> [clears throat]

[1:02:07] >> the budget for

[1:02:09] next year.

[1:02:12] Uh are there any questions or

[1:02:15] anything you want to add? We went

[1:02:17] through it

[1:02:18] in some detail in the previous meeting,

[1:02:21] so it's gone through video, too.

[1:02:26] Then, uh I would entertain a motion on

[1:02:29] resolution 0606.

[1:02:32] » Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion that we

[1:02:34] approve resolution 0606-2026

[1:02:39] with the three changes to the water,

[1:02:40] sewer, and library.

[1:02:44] >> I'll second that motion.

[1:02:46] >> Moved and seconded. Travis?

[1:02:49] >> Aye.

[1:02:49] >> Lan?

[1:02:50] >> Aye.

[1:02:50] >> Jeff?

[1:02:51] >> Aye.

[1:02:52] >> Art?

[1:02:52] >> Aye.

[1:02:53] >> Ryan?

[1:02:53] >> Aye.

[1:02:55] >> Motion passed. Now, we need to look at

[1:02:57] 0607, the URS service agreement.

[1:03:03] » So, again, discussed this in the work

[1:03:04] session. This is the the URS service

[1:03:07] agreement that allows for Roth 457 and

[1:03:11] 401ks

[1:03:13] for all um

[1:03:16] URS salary

[1:03:18] employees of the city.

[1:03:19] >> Just just to identify so people are

[1:03:22] listening to this, URS stands for the

[1:03:25] Utah Retirement System.

[1:03:27] >> Correct. Utah Retirement System. This is

[1:03:28] the the

[1:03:30] um, retirement system that Utah has set

[1:03:33] up for public employees.

[1:03:39] » So, we went through those issues. Are

[1:03:41] there any any items you want to bring

[1:03:43] up?

[1:03:46] Okay.

[1:03:47] >> Um, I I have I have one question and I

[1:03:50] think it kind of ties to

[1:03:52] and Shannon, I think this question is

[1:03:54] for you that I wrote down.

[1:03:56] We talked about in the last meeting,

[1:03:58] um,

[1:03:59] that there are like some liabilities

[1:04:01] that now are becoming expenses from

[1:04:03] employees opting in to benefits.

[1:04:06] Um, this is kind of

[1:04:09] I don't know if it deals with the URS.

[1:04:12] >> No.

[1:04:12] >> Uh, no. URS, what the city pays is

[1:04:15] required by the state.

[1:04:16] >> Okay. So,

[1:04:17] are we setting aside money for

[1:04:20] like how are we accounting? Do you have

[1:04:22] a number of like, this is how much could

[1:04:24] be called for us to pay if every

[1:04:26] employee exercised their right to enroll

[1:04:29] in benefits?

[1:04:31] >> Um,

[1:04:33] everybody that is

[1:04:34] >> That's eligible.

[1:04:35] >> Yes. So,

[1:04:37] um, we don't have an accounting. We we

[1:04:38] currently have, um, I would say six or

[1:04:41] seven employees that are waiving the

[1:04:43] benefits.

[1:04:44] >> Okay.

[1:04:44] >> Um, but no, we don't have like a set

[1:04:46] aside funding, uh, from year to year

[1:04:48] that if they pick up the benefits, then

[1:04:50] we pull from that fund.

[1:04:52] >> Okay.

[1:04:54] I was this made me think of it and I

[1:04:56] meant to ask it during the other one,

[1:04:57] but I was just concerned of like, ah,

[1:04:59] what if everybody decides that and then

[1:05:01] we have to make unexpected cuts

[1:05:03] elsewhere or some I don't know. So,

[1:05:07] okay.

[1:05:08] >> Yeah. We um, fortunately we don't have a

[1:05:10] ton of employees that waive it, but we

[1:05:12] do save a ton of money when they do

[1:05:14] waive it.

[1:05:14] >> Yeah.

[1:05:15] >> So.

[1:05:15] >> It's just it's not always guaranteed if

[1:05:17] they

[1:05:17] >> Right, exactly.

[1:05:18] >> That's the That's the thing.

[1:05:18] >> And they may even have life changes that

[1:05:20] >> Can they enroll whenever they want or is

[1:05:22] there

[1:05:22] >> Um we have open enrollment and that is

[1:05:25] >> without a life.

[1:05:26] change, yeah. If they

[1:05:27] have a life change and they lose

[1:05:29] coverage their coverage they're

[1:05:30] currently have, then yes, they can

[1:05:31] enroll at that time.

[1:05:32] >> Or if they leave and someone replaces

[1:05:35] them and that one wants to be in it, do

[1:05:36] they have

[1:05:37] >> Yes.

[1:05:37] >> Right, and just make that happen.

[1:05:38] >> Yep. Yep.

[1:05:40] So

[1:05:41] this this particular item doesn't have

[1:05:42] anything to do with the health insurance

[1:05:43] benefits. That's health insurance. This

[1:05:45] is This is state retirement, so it's

[1:05:47] totally different and it's we pay what's

[1:05:49] mandated by state by state law.

[1:05:51] >> And if employees there's a percentage,

[1:05:53] isn't it?

[1:05:54] >> It's a percentage for each fund. Yes, it

[1:05:57] and it's different for each fund. You

[1:05:58] have public safety fund, you have a

[1:05:59] firefighter fund, and you have public

[1:06:01] employee funds.

[1:06:02] >> Okay.

[1:06:06] » Any other questions?

[1:06:09] Then I would entertain a motion on

[1:06:11] resolution 06-07.

[1:06:14] >> I'd make a motion to adopt resolution

[1:06:17] 06-07 2026, a resolution authorizing

[1:06:20] Santaquin City signing a new service

[1:06:22] agreement with the Utah State Retirement

[1:06:24] System URS.

[1:06:27] >> I'll second that motion.

[1:06:28] >> I had a motion and a second in.

[1:06:31] Um Travis.

[1:06:32] >> Aye.

[1:06:34] >> Lynn.

[1:06:35] >> Aye.

[1:06:36] >> Jeff.

[1:06:36] >> Aye.

[1:06:37] >> Art.

[1:06:37] >> Aye.

[1:06:38] >> Ryan.

[1:06:39] >> Aye.

[1:06:40] >> Motion passed and uh

[1:06:43] that moves us on to 608.

[1:06:46] The URS employer election pickup.

[1:06:50] >> Yeah, so as as Shannon indicated

[1:06:52] previously, this is the the public

[1:06:54] safety tier two

[1:06:56] um

[1:06:57] firefighter and police contributions.

[1:07:00] This is a pickup going from 4.73% to

[1:07:03] 5.98%.

[1:07:04] It is budgeted and and

[1:07:07] um

[1:07:08] happy to answer any questions that you

[1:07:09] have about that.

[1:07:12] >> I I did have a question.

[1:07:14] It

[1:07:14] What is the match required for that?

[1:07:17] Could they are they opting out of the

[1:07:19] URS to then do the 401K

[1:07:23] whether it's Roth or or or those other

[1:07:25] solutions or can they do both and are we

[1:07:27] required to pay for the pension and a

[1:07:30] contribution to the 401K or what that

[1:07:33] other alternative?

[1:07:34] >> So, there are there are two options for

[1:07:36] tier two um both in public safety and

[1:07:39] public

[1:07:40] employee.

[1:07:42] Um

[1:07:42] one's called the hybrid and one's called

[1:07:45] the the savings plan or the 401K.

[1:07:48] An employee that's in tier two which is

[1:07:50] anybody that was hired after a certain

[1:07:52] date that the legislation changed um

[1:07:54] they have a year to decide which plan

[1:07:56] they want to be in. Um but yes, there are percentages for each of those.

[1:08:02] In the defined benefit, the amount that

[1:08:04] the city pays in doesn't cover the total

[1:08:06] cost and so they're asking the employee

[1:08:08] to pay part of their retirement. And

[1:08:10] that's where we have the option by state

[1:08:12] law to pick up that amount.

[1:08:14] Um and and we can only pick that up for

[1:08:17] public safety. They did the same thing a

[1:08:18] couple years ago for public employee. We

[1:08:20] don't pick that up but we have picked it

[1:08:22] up for public safety.

[1:08:24] >> Okay.

[1:08:25] So,

[1:08:26] their portion is the 5.98%. What's the

[1:08:29] employer portion? Is it the same?

[1:08:31] >> Um no, it is I would have to go get

[1:08:33] >> it changes every year.

[1:08:34] >> year.

[1:08:35] >> Yeah, seems like this does, too.

[1:08:36] >> Yeah.

[1:08:38] >> Well, is it higher or lower? I'm just

[1:08:39] curious. It doesn't

[1:08:40] >> It's a lot higher. So, a total across

[1:08:42] the board is about 30%.

[1:08:44] >> Oh, wow.

[1:08:45] >> So, they're asking the employee to pay

[1:08:46] 5.98% of the amount that goes in to

[1:08:50] their retirement.

[1:08:51] >> that for them and putting it in so they

[1:08:52] can keep that in their own paycheck.

[1:08:54] >> Yeah, so what we did um a couple years

[1:08:56] ago Well, how long has it been that

[1:08:57] we've done the parity? 10 years ago?

[1:08:59] >> 10 or 12 years ago.

[1:09:00] >> So, when this first changed, um

[1:09:03] the council at the time decided that

[1:09:06] they wanted to keep the tier one equal

[1:09:08] tier to the tier two. And so, whatever

[1:09:11] that amount is, um the difference

[1:09:13] between the two, we have put into what's

[1:09:16] called a parity. It started out at about

[1:09:18] 5% um that we would pay into a tier one

[1:09:21] from a into a tier two's just a a 401K

[1:09:24] to make them equal to a tier one. This

[1:09:27] change to the 4.73 to the 5.98 would

[1:09:30] just reduce that parity. So, we're not

[1:09:32] paying any more than we would have. It's

[1:09:34] just reducing that parity amount.

[1:09:36] >> Okay.

[1:09:38] >> [snorts]

[1:09:39] >> So, [clears throat]

[1:09:40] I think I'm having trouble

[1:09:41] understanding.

[1:09:43] In like simple terms, I maybe it's not

[1:09:45] simple terms because obviously I'm

[1:09:47] struggling here.

[1:09:48] >> Let me Let me do this. So,

[1:09:49] >> are we doing is it a match or are we

[1:09:53] doing the entire contribution for 41 for

[1:09:56] the alternative to the pension?

[1:09:59] Or is it an addition?

[1:10:02] >> Is Is it an addition?

[1:10:04] >> So, like say if I'm public safety and I

[1:10:06] go to my retirement, I already have the

[1:10:08] URS,

[1:10:10] can I elect to do the Roth

[1:10:12] solution?

[1:10:13] >> So, those are totally separate things. So,

[1:10:16] we're talking about the retirement part

[1:10:18] of it, the two different retirements

[1:10:19] apart of it. The other thing that we

[1:10:21] talked about is savings plans for our

[1:10:23] employees. So, those are totally

[1:10:25] different things. The Roth 401K, 457,

[1:10:28] the traditional IRA, the Roth IRA, the

[1:10:31] 457, the 401K, those are all employee

[1:10:35] contributions. We don't contribute

[1:10:36] anything to those.

[1:10:38] >> And and those are just new options that

[1:10:40] they've had for their investment

[1:10:41] vehicles. They not had Roth 457 or 401Ks

[1:10:45] before, but they're now opening that up

[1:10:46] to them. But, let me let me see if I can

[1:10:48] help with the with the tier one and tier

[1:10:51] two. So, about I don't know, 10 or 12

[1:10:52] years ago,

[1:10:54] tier one was right here. Have this this

[1:10:56] amount of benefit. Tier two have this

[1:10:58] amount of benefit because because the

[1:11:01] state law changed in 2011. I think it

[1:11:03] was July 1st, 2011.

[1:11:05] So, at the time the council said a few

[1:11:08] years later the council said, "Okay, we

[1:11:10] want to help bring tier two up to be

[1:11:13] in parity with tier one. So, we are

[1:11:15] going to for public safety only. This is

[1:11:17] only public safety. There's no parity

[1:11:19] for any other public employees but

[1:11:21] public safety. So, at that time it was

[1:11:23] 5%. That that difference in the parity

[1:11:25] from what they were getting and what we

[1:11:27] added to it from the city was about 5%.

[1:11:30] That that now down is is down to about

[1:11:32] 2% now, 2% a little bit. So, this extra

[1:11:35] 1.25 it just eats into that little bit

[1:11:37] of parity to now pick up for that

[1:11:39] portion of public safety for their

[1:11:41] portion of it. Our portion of it stayed

[1:11:44] the same. It doesn't and it changes year

[1:11:45] to year.

[1:11:47] So, it really is just a shift in how

[1:11:50] they're seeing the money whether it goes

[1:11:51] into a 401k here or whether it goes in

[1:11:53] and we're paying it to a 401k on their

[1:11:55] behalf for the pick up. There's no

[1:11:57] change in value or in cost to us for

[1:12:02] the amount that we're paying.

[1:12:03] >> that that's the thing is like they could

[1:12:04] say, "Hey, I don't want a pension. I

[1:12:06] want to enroll in this." And then we

[1:12:08] just contribute that same equal amount.

[1:12:10] That Okay, that's what I was confused

[1:12:12] about. I was like, "Are we agreeing to

[1:12:13] that and a match or something?" That's

[1:12:16] what I was confused about. Okay. Yeah.

[1:12:18] Okay. That's really

[1:12:21] >> That's Well, that's really that's a

[1:12:22] really great benefit. I mean

[1:12:24] >> There's three types of employees.

[1:12:25] There's tier one, which is mostly a

[1:12:28] pension. There's tier two hybrid, which

[1:12:32] is partially a pension and partially a

[1:12:34] 401k contribution.

[1:12:37] And then there's a tier two defined

[1:12:40] contribution, which is just a

[1:12:41] contribution to a 401k. Those are the

[1:12:44] types of employees. The Roth and all

[1:12:47] those those are types of funding options

[1:12:49] that employees can elect to

[1:12:51] >> savings plans that they can elect to

[1:12:53] take money out of their paycheck and put

[1:12:55] into.

[1:12:55] >> Yeah. Can they do it in addition? That's

[1:12:58] what I'm saying, in addition to the

[1:12:59] pension.

[1:13:00] >> Yes.

[1:13:00] >> on their own. It's not

[1:13:01] >> No, we don't we don't put anything in

[1:13:03] there, but they can take money out of

[1:13:04] their own paycheck and put in those

[1:13:06] savings plans.

[1:13:07] >> And that was the previous agenda

[1:13:08] >> and we actually encourage them to do

[1:13:10] that.

[1:13:10] >> That was the previous agenda item is

[1:13:12] they give two new funding

[1:13:14] or two

[1:13:15] >> mechanisms

[1:13:16] >> uh

[1:13:16] retirement options to put put money

[1:13:19] towards.

[1:13:20] >> that's on the employee.

[1:13:21] >> Cuz I'm I'm seeing

[1:13:22] employee

[1:13:23] >> See that fourth whereas there where it

[1:13:25] says

[1:13:27] um

[1:13:29] make an equal 401k employer contribution

[1:13:33] as required by law. That's where I was

[1:13:35] confused. I'm like

[1:13:36] >> where it the parity amount it goes into

[1:13:39] a 401k.

[1:13:41] So that's why it says 401k contribution.

[1:13:43] So the parity amount that we're paying

[1:13:45] to make the tier one to tier two equal,

[1:13:47] it goes automatically into a 401k. We

[1:13:50] don't we don't allow them to to take our

[1:13:53] contribution and put it anywhere else in

[1:13:54] except for a 401k.

[1:13:56] >> Okay. That makes sense. Thanks.

[1:13:59] Okay.

[1:14:00] Are there any questions?

[1:14:03] >> I'm kind of curious how many other

[1:14:04] cities take up the employee pay the

[1:14:07] employee contribution completely like we

[1:14:09] are.

[1:14:09] >> So it's actually a range. Some some have

[1:14:12] chosen to go to like 5%, some are

[1:14:14] picking up the whole thing. Because

[1:14:16] >> [laughter]

[1:14:16] >> because we have the parity it's again

[1:14:18] it's equal dollars. There's no budget

[1:14:20] impact to us where others may have a

[1:14:22] budget impact. Okay.

[1:14:23] >> Well, I realize it's a good benefit. I'm

[1:14:25] just wondering how

[1:14:28] it compares to other cities and how we

[1:14:29] can present that for recruiting and

[1:14:32] whatnot.

[1:14:33] >> So um there was a survey going around.

[1:14:36] Um

[1:14:37] we we talked about this about a month

[1:14:39] and a half or so ago. Mayor asked me to

[1:14:41] send something around. Um I sent out an

[1:14:43] email and then Orem City had actually

[1:14:45] sent out something else for another

[1:14:46] survey. They added a line to it said,

[1:14:48] "What are you guys What are you What are

[1:14:49] you guys doing for the 401K or the the

[1:14:52] pick up amount?" Majority of public

[1:14:54] safety entities are picking up the

[1:14:56] entire thing.

[1:14:57] >> Okay.

[1:14:57] >> There are some. Uh Spanish Fork is

[1:15:00] picking up 5% and having the employee

[1:15:02] pick up 0.98. Um

[1:15:05] there are some that leaving it at 4.73,

[1:15:08] but a majority of the ones that were

[1:15:09] surveyed are actually picking up the

[1:15:11] whole thing.

[1:15:11] >> Okay.

[1:15:12] Then we definitely need to keep doing

[1:15:13] that.

[1:15:14] >> Which which again is the the whole

[1:15:16] >> Yeah.

[1:15:20] Wanted to make sure that we'd covered

[1:15:21] ourselves with all of that, too, and we

[1:15:23] weren't stepping out in front of

[1:15:25] everybody. We don't need to lead the

[1:15:26] show.

[1:15:27] >> Yeah.

[1:15:28] >> We certainly want to retain the officers

[1:15:31] and that's an investment that we have.

[1:15:33] >> I agree.

[1:15:34] >> Okay.

[1:15:35] Um any other questions?

[1:15:37] Then I'd entertain a motion on 0608.

[1:15:42] >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution

[1:15:43] 0608-2026.

[1:15:45] >> I'll second it.

[1:15:46] >> Moved and seconded. Travis?

[1:15:48] >> Aye.

[1:15:49] >> Lynn?

[1:15:49] >> Aye.

[1:15:50] >> Brian?

[1:15:50] >> Aye.

[1:15:51] >> Art?

[1:15:52] >> [clears throat]

[1:15:52] >> Aye.

[1:15:53] >> Got you, didn't I?

[1:15:55] Jeff?

[1:15:55] >> Aye.

[1:15:56] >> Okay. [snorts] Motion passed. Uh

[1:15:59] we need to look at um

[1:16:01] the state law that was passed that makes

[1:16:05] it so that

[1:16:07] we have affordable housing and we no

[1:16:09] longer can

[1:16:12] make people

[1:16:14] or uh

[1:16:17] even even contractors

[1:16:20] put in their um

[1:16:23] their

[1:16:25] Yeah, last landscaping so they allowed

[1:16:28] them to look good in the neighborhood.

[1:16:31] That was a decision.

[1:16:32] >> that's our understanding of the the

[1:16:35] intent of of that legislation, but

[1:16:37] essentially this this proposed ordinance

[1:16:39] is is to amend our code so that we're in

[1:16:41] line with with new state legislation. Uh

[1:16:44] right now we require uh the landscaping

[1:16:46] be completed uh before a certificate of

[1:16:49] occupancy is issued or they need to to

[1:16:52] provide an appropriate bond if it's

[1:16:54] during winter months or or whatever. Um

[1:16:56] but the state is not allowing us to do

[1:16:58] that anymore. Uh it's our understanding

[1:17:00] that that that's probably something to

[1:17:02] help towards

[1:17:03] uh making more affordable housing so

[1:17:05] that they they don't have that

[1:17:07] obligation of of additional costs

[1:17:10] related to landscaping. So, I know there

[1:17:12] was some discussion about this in the

[1:17:14] work meeting and and there could be some

[1:17:15] uh code enforcement uh efforts uh at the

[1:17:18] direction of the council, but for

[1:17:19] purposes of getting our our code in line

[1:17:21] with state code and uh

[1:17:24] and adjusting our code so that we're not requiring landscaping before

[1:17:28] certificate of occupancy, that's the

[1:17:30] language before you in ordinance

[1:17:33] uh

[1:17:34] um

[1:17:35] 06012026.

[1:17:40] » What will we do for the state?

[1:17:44] Any questions?

[1:17:47] Any comments?

[1:17:49] Then I'd entertain a motion on

[1:17:52] uh code amendment removing the

[1:17:54] residential landscaping requirement.

[1:17:59] >> I'll make a motion that we approve

[1:18:00] ordinance 06012026.

[1:18:05] » Is there a second?

[1:18:07] >> I'll second.

[1:18:08] >> Moved and seconded. Brian?

[1:18:10] >> I.

[1:18:10] >> Art?

[1:18:11] >> I.

[1:18:12] >> Jeff?

[1:18:12] >> I.

[1:18:13] >> Lynn?

[1:18:14] >> I.

[1:18:14] >> Travis?

[1:18:15] >> I.

[1:18:16] >> Thank you. Then uh we'll move into uh

[1:18:21] the

[1:18:22] zone change.

[1:18:24] >> Yeah, Mayor and Council, before you is an ordinance uh reflecting a proposal

[1:18:29] by uh

[1:18:31] some applicants who who are looking at a

[1:18:34] home on along SR 198 uh they're are that

[1:18:38] property to be rezoned from residential

[1:18:40] agriculture,

[1:18:42] uh

[1:18:42] R Ag, to residential commercial, RC. Uh

[1:18:46] we talked about this in the work session

[1:18:48] and and uh I don't see the applicants

[1:18:50] here. Uh they did receive a negative

[1:18:52] recommendation from the planning

[1:18:53] commission. Uh I think staff is probably

[1:18:55] in line with the the planning

[1:18:56] commission's recommendation. One thing I

[1:18:58] didn't mention in the work session is is

[1:19:00] uh

[1:19:01] their intent is to to do uh um

[1:19:05] uh

[1:19:05] kind of a daycare,

[1:19:07] um

[1:19:08] for for children. Uh they could start to

[1:19:11] do that in the current zoning that they

[1:19:12] have under home occupation. Uh with

[1:19:15] their proposal, if they went to

[1:19:17] residential commercial and and the

[1:19:19] daycare,

[1:19:20] you know, wasn't really working for

[1:19:21] them, uh that would potentially open

[1:19:24] them up to other things in the RC zone,

[1:19:26] which could be a concern. That would

[1:19:27] include storage units, multi-family,

[1:19:30] things like that that I don't know if

[1:19:31] the the planning commission was was

[1:19:33] excited about. I don't know if the

[1:19:34] council would be either.

[1:19:36] Um

[1:19:38] I think it was encouraged to them that

[1:19:39] if if they wanted to start as a home

[1:19:40] occupation, which I think is their

[1:19:42] intent, they could do that now, and as

[1:19:44] they they grow and and they want to

[1:19:46] become more of a commercial business, uh

[1:19:48] probably the the C1 interchange zone is

[1:19:50] what the planning commission suggested

[1:19:51] to them. I would agree with that. In the

[1:19:53] C1 zone, uh you're not able to do any

[1:19:56] sort of residential type of development,

[1:19:58] and storage units are also a use that's

[1:20:00] not allowed in that zone. So, uh that's

[1:20:02] the proposal. Uh the applicant's not

[1:20:04] here to to kind of represent their their

[1:20:06] proposal. Uh

[1:20:08] I would suggest uh if if you're you're

[1:20:11] in line with the planning commission to uh not approve this ordinance, or if

[1:20:16] you'd like to hear from the applicant,

[1:20:18] you could table that. Um but

[1:20:21] with them not being here, that that that

[1:20:23] would be my recommendation uh for you to move forward tonight.

[1:20:28] >> Does anyone have a question on this? I

[1:20:31] know we've discussed it a little bit.

[1:20:33] >> I sat in planning commission. I was very

[1:20:34] thankful for Commissioner Hoffman to

[1:20:37] say exactly what I was thinking the

[1:20:38] first time I saw the public notice go

[1:20:40] out for it.

[1:20:41] Made a lot of sense and

[1:20:43] everyone agreed with him. I am kind of

[1:20:44] curious if they were to open up their

[1:20:46] home-based business right now

[1:20:48] and then next month they change to C1,

[1:20:51] they could still run that home-based

[1:20:52] business, right?

[1:20:53] >> You know, that's a good question. That's

[1:20:55] >> Would it be legal non-conforming?

[1:20:57] >> Well, and that's a unique question.

[1:20:58] We've talked with Brett about that.

[1:21:00] Usually legal non-conforming happens

[1:21:02] when the city changes the zoning and

[1:21:04] they were already existing. The fact

[1:21:06] that they would be the ones changing

[1:21:07] their own zoning makes it a new dynamic

[1:21:10] that I'm not as familiar with. I don't

[1:21:11] know if Brett wants to expound on that,

[1:21:13] but

[1:21:14] yeah, that's that's kind of a a weird

[1:21:16] one that that someone would would do

[1:21:19] something and then

[1:21:21] change the zoning that that doesn't make

[1:21:23] what they want to do legal anymore. I

[1:21:25] don't know if the non-conforming would hold up or not.

[1:21:30] >> And that's why we had the discussion

[1:21:31] about that and we said, you know, you're

[1:21:33] better to stay

[1:21:34] uh safe with it and not get into that

[1:21:36] area.

[1:21:37] >> Right. So, again, I think if they they

[1:21:39] do the home occupation and then when

[1:21:41] they're ready to make the transition to

[1:21:43] more of a commercial, then they would go

[1:21:45] to the for the rezone, but I think we

[1:21:46] would suggest to them to not to start

[1:21:48] the home occupation and then do a rezone

[1:21:51] just so that they have that there when

[1:21:53] they eventually grow to the point where

[1:21:54] they want to make that transition to

[1:21:56] more of a commercial operation.

[1:21:57] >> Well, since they're not here, I'm I'll

[1:21:58] kind of summarize what they want what

[1:21:59] they're trying to accomplish here. They

[1:22:01] don't want to

[1:22:03] They want to expand to commercial

[1:22:05] eventually, but they don't want to get

[1:22:06] held up from the rezone because they're

[1:22:08] going to have to add in the improvements

[1:22:10] and infrastructure and things like that.

[1:22:12] So, they're trying to bypass that with

[1:22:13] the RC.

[1:22:15] Um I was thinking

[1:22:17] you know, starting it now, having a

[1:22:18] home-based be legal non-conforming, that

[1:22:20] would help them

[1:22:21] with that transition, but if that's

[1:22:23] a gray area, then it's probably not

[1:22:26] a good solution for them.

[1:22:27] Um

[1:22:29] Yeah, I still agree that RC is a bad

[1:22:31] zone for that lot.

[1:22:34] Hope we can help them out best we can,

[1:22:35] but

[1:22:37] Yeah, I don't think that'd be a good

[1:22:39] spot for that area.

[1:22:42] » [clears throat]

[1:22:43] >> Okay. Any other comments or question?

[1:22:47] Then I would entertain a motion

[1:22:50] on this Bright Steps Academy rezone.

[1:22:53] >> I'd make a motion that we not approve

[1:22:58] the amending of the zoning map of Santa

[1:23:00] Quin City ordinance 0602-2026.

[1:23:07] » So, a motion made to deny. Is there a

[1:23:10] second?

[1:23:11] >> I'll second.

[1:23:13] >> Moved and seconded. And Travis?

[1:23:14] >> Aye.

[1:23:15] >> Then?

[1:23:16] >> Aye.

[1:23:16] >> Jeff?

[1:23:17] >> Aye.

[1:23:17] >> Art?

[1:23:18] >> Aye.

[1:23:19] >> Brian?

[1:23:19] >> Aye.

[1:23:20] >> Motion was denied. And we'll move on to

[1:23:24] >> Motion was accepted to deny the request.

[1:23:27] >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

[1:23:29] >> Make sure that's clear for the minutes.

[1:23:32] >> Sorry.

[1:23:34] Freudian slip.

[1:23:38] Okay.

[1:23:39] Um

[1:23:40] F F and E.

[1:23:43] » Uh so, discussion possible action on the

[1:23:45] approval of the RAP tax funding, uh item

[1:23:48] number 14.

[1:23:51] So, we have uh

[1:23:53] Community Services Director

[1:23:55] Kami Ellsworth here with us, and I'll

[1:23:56] let her go ahead and present on this and

[1:23:58] kind of give you the backstory and

[1:23:59] what's happened and where we're at and

[1:24:01] what's being recommended.

[1:24:04] » Good evening again, mayor and council.

[1:24:07] >> [clears throat]

[1:24:07] >> Um

[1:24:08] After meeting with staff and public

[1:24:10] works and former director Bradley, um

[1:24:14] we created a RAP tax recommendation

[1:24:16] list, which you will see on the um far

[1:24:20] left.

[1:24:23] And

[1:24:25] the first three columns are the staff

[1:24:28] recommendations that we took before the

[1:24:30] RAP Tax Committee.

[1:24:32] That meeting was held on May 28th and

[1:24:35] after much discussion

[1:24:38] and they were very thorough. They went

[1:24:39] through each item one by one and as you

[1:24:42] can see in that second to the right

[1:24:44] column the yes and the no's, they went

[1:24:46] through and voted yes and no on each of

[1:24:49] the recommendations that we had

[1:24:51] presented to them.

[1:24:53] Um

[1:24:54] and again after a lot of discussion they decided this year to allocate a

[1:25:00] large chunk of the RAP Tax money or

[1:25:03] recommendation for a large chunk of the

[1:25:05] RAP Tax money to go towards the

[1:25:07] construction of the skate park. So

[1:25:09] $100,000

[1:25:11] was recommended to go towards that

[1:25:13] project.

[1:25:15] And then you can see the rest of their

[1:25:17] recommendations

[1:25:19] in the yes and the no column.

[1:25:21] Um we can go through those if you want

[1:25:23] or you can just look at that yourself,

[1:25:25] but the total cost that they are

[1:25:27] recommending for RAP Tax going towards

[1:25:30] those projects this year is $160,000.

[1:25:39] And they also have

[1:25:41] recommended

[1:25:42] that if there's additional RAP Tax money

[1:25:46] above the 160

[1:25:49] thousand that they be consulted on how

[1:25:52] that money is spent.

[1:25:56] » And the reason for that is because the

[1:25:57] anticipated amount that we

[1:26:00] estimate is probably around 175,000 so

[1:26:02] there could be a 15 plus or minus

[1:26:04] thousand that have not would would not

[1:26:06] be allocated with this approval if it

[1:26:09] happens to be approved that would then

[1:26:12] potentially go back to them. We

[1:26:13] obviously don't know what that

[1:26:14] collection is until the end of the year

[1:26:16] and so it may be able to if it's not

[1:26:18] used and it comes in, it would just roll

[1:26:20] into fund balance and we could use it

[1:26:21] next year. Fund fund balance for RAP

[1:26:23] tax.

[1:26:24] >> That's what I would think is easiest.

[1:26:31] » Any questions on those specific

[1:26:32] recommendations or anything

[1:26:35] more for me?

[1:26:36] >> Any comments?

[1:26:39] Then

[1:26:40] I would entertain a motion on the RAP

[1:26:42] tax.

[1:26:48] » I'll make a motion to

[1:26:50] uh

[1:26:51] approve

[1:26:52] the RAP tax recommendations from the RAP

[1:26:56] tax committee.

[1:26:59] » Got a motion, is there a second?

[1:27:01] >> I'll second.

[1:27:03] >> Okay, um

[1:27:05] Travis.

[1:27:05] >> No.

[1:27:07] >> Lynn?

[1:27:07] >> No.

[1:27:09] >> Jeff?

[1:27:10] >> Aye.

[1:27:11] >> Art?

[1:27:12] >> Aye.

[1:27:13] >> Brian?

[1:27:13] >> Aye.

[1:27:15] >> Motion passed.

[1:27:16] Okay.

[1:27:18] Um we will move on to the

[1:27:23] CDRA.

[1:27:24] >> No, we got the the FF&E.

[1:27:27] >> Yeah, so Mayor and Council, they

[1:27:29] again Jen Wagner, our library director

[1:27:32] and and Shannon and staff have been

[1:27:35] working on FF&E, furniture, fixtures,

[1:27:37] and equipment. Um this would be an

[1:27:39] approval of a purchase of the

[1:27:42] bookshelves themselves from Spacemaker

[1:27:44] in our Mountain View. They are a They

[1:27:46] are a state bid contractor and so

[1:27:48] they've already gone through the vetting

[1:27:49] and the bidding process and that kind of

[1:27:51] thing and this would help us to start

[1:27:53] the FF&E as indicated in the in the um

[1:27:57] in the work session, this is not all of

[1:28:00] the FF&E, this is just the bookshelves.

[1:28:02] We still have the RFID gates, we still

[1:28:04] have desks and chairs and furniture and

[1:28:07] other things to acquire for the FF&E for

[1:28:09] the library.

[1:28:11] Um happy to answer any questions on

[1:28:12] that, but this is before you for a not

[1:28:15] to exceed amount of 156,413.70

[1:28:19] for the bookshelves in the library.

[1:28:23] » [clears throat]

[1:28:26] » Any comments? Any questions?

[1:28:28] >> I appreciate the research and work that

[1:28:30] Jennifer's done to make sure that this

[1:28:32] was the best bang for the buck.

[1:28:35] >> I think it's fun that Cammy got baptized

[1:28:37] into book shelving.

[1:28:40] You know, you you were once sent to St.

[1:28:43] George to jump into wreck and everything

[1:28:47] else and and you did um

[1:28:50] marathons and now we're doing

[1:28:53] marishelves.

[1:28:55] >> [laughter]

[1:28:58] » I did notice we got a a $94,000

[1:29:01] discount, a toss it discount. Was that

[1:29:02] because we're

[1:29:04] have that certification we're talking

[1:29:06] we're discussing last year?

[1:29:07] >> is the state bid. That's that's

[1:29:08] essentially what they've done is they

[1:29:09] take their MSRP and then because of the

[1:29:12] state bid, they discount it whatever

[1:29:13] that percentage is.

[1:29:14] >> So, any library in Utah would get that

[1:29:15] same discount?

[1:29:16] >> I I would assume so. I don't know. I've

[1:29:18] not shopped for other libraries, but I

[1:29:19] assume that that would be the case.

[1:29:21] Okay. We have enough to do here, so I

[1:29:22] don't

[1:29:22] >> that's that's a 54% discount. That's

[1:29:24] pretty good.

[1:29:25] >> Yeah.

[1:29:27] >> Okay.

[1:29:29] That's that's always good. You know

[1:29:31] what? We've worked hard for this library

[1:29:34] for

[1:29:35] come up with money to pay for it and I

[1:29:38] am tickled that we can do this. So.

[1:29:41] Um

[1:29:43] I would entertain a motion

[1:29:45] on the FF&E.

[1:29:47] >> Mr. Mayor, I'll make the motion to

[1:29:48] authorize the purchase for library FF&E

[1:29:51] bookshelves to Spacesaver Intermountain

[1:29:54] in an amount not to exceed 156,413.70.

[1:30:00] » I have a motion. Is there a second?

[1:30:02] >> I'll second.

[1:30:03] >> Moved and seconded. Brian?

[1:30:05] >> Aye.

[1:30:06] >> Art?

[1:30:06] >> Aye.

[1:30:07] >> Jeff?

[1:30:08] >> Aye.

[1:30:09] >> Lynn?

[1:30:09] >> Aye.

[1:30:09] >> Travis?

[1:30:10] >> Aye.

[1:30:11] >> Motion passed.

[1:30:14] Now now we're at the CDRA.

[1:30:17] >> Mhm.

[1:30:18] >> So, uh in order to comply with all of

[1:30:21] the uh

[1:30:23] budget requirements under the state, uh

[1:30:25] we need to move into a

[1:30:28] the community development renewal agency

[1:30:31] look at the budget,

[1:30:33] um which is under resolution 0602.

[1:30:38] >> So, you need a motion to go into that

[1:30:39] meeting?

[1:30:39] >> Yeah.

[1:30:40] >> So moved.

[1:30:41] >> Have moved. Is there a second?

[1:30:44] >> I'll second.

[1:30:45] >> Moved and seconded. Brian?

[1:30:47] >> Aye.

[1:30:47] >> Art?

[1:30:48] >> Aye.

[1:30:48] >> Jeff?

[1:30:49] >> Aye.

[1:30:49] >> Lynn?

[1:30:49] >> Aye.

[1:30:50] >> Travis?

[1:30:51] >> Aye.

[1:30:51] >> Now we're the board, no longer the

[1:30:53] council.

[1:30:56] So,

[1:30:57] you want to go through this uh because

[1:31:00] this is exactly how we proposed it a

[1:31:03] month ago.

[1:31:04] >> Yeah, so board members and chair,

[1:31:08] I got that right this time.

[1:31:11] Uh [laughter and clears throat] this is

[1:31:11] the budget for the CDRA, the community

[1:31:13] development renewal agency for Santaquin

[1:31:15] City.

[1:31:16] Um this budget has not changed from the

[1:31:18] tentative and we'll present that for you

[1:31:20] for your approval.

[1:31:24] » With that, do you have any questions or

[1:31:26] anything that we may have omitted or not

[1:31:29] talked about?

[1:31:31] Then I would entertain a motion on the

[1:31:33] CDRA.

[1:31:37] » So moved.

[1:31:39] >> Is there a second?

[1:31:40] >> Why do we have so much feedback?

[1:31:41] >> I'll second.

[1:31:42] >> Moved and seconded. Travis?

[1:31:44] >> Aye.

[1:31:44] >> Lynn?

[1:31:45] >> Aye.

[1:31:45] >> Jeff?

[1:31:46] >> Aye.

[1:31:47] >> Art?

[1:31:48] >> Aye.

[1:31:48] >> Brian?

[1:31:49] >> Aye.

[1:31:51] >> Motion passed.

[1:31:53] Uh I need a motion to adjourn from the

[1:31:55] CDRA.

[1:31:56] >> So moved.

[1:31:57] >> Is there a second?

[1:31:59] >> I'll second.

[1:32:01] >> Moved and seconded it, Travis.

[1:32:03] >> Aye.

[1:32:03] >> Lynn?

[1:32:04] >> Aye.

[1:32:05] >> Jeff?

[1:32:06] >> Aye.

[1:32:06] >> Art?

[1:32:06] >> Aye.

[1:32:07] >> Brian?

[1:32:07] >> Aye.

[1:32:08] >> Now, we're back into the council. I need

[1:32:10] a motion to adjourn to the local

[1:32:12] building authority.

[1:32:13] >> So moved.

[1:32:15] >> Is there a second?

[1:32:17] >> I'll second.

[1:32:18] >> Moved and seconded Travis.

[1:32:20] >> Aye.

[1:32:21] >> Lynn?

[1:32:22] >> Aye.

[1:32:23] >> Jeff?

[1:32:24] >> Aye.

[1:32:25] >> Art?

[1:32:25] >> Aye.

[1:32:26] >> Brian?

[1:32:26] >> Aye.

[1:32:27] >> We are now in the Santaquin local

[1:32:30] building authority under the same Orton

[1:32:33] chair

[1:32:35] situation. Um

[1:32:37] these are the same numbers that we went

[1:32:39] over a

[1:32:40] uh month ago.

[1:32:43] » Yeah, so board members, this is the

[1:32:46] budget for the LBA, the local building

[1:32:48] authority.

[1:32:49] This is the mechanism by which we have

[1:32:50] financed one of our buildings, the

[1:32:52] public works uh building down on the

[1:32:54] north end of town.

[1:32:55] And I present this budget for you for

[1:32:57] approval. Again, it's not changed from

[1:32:58] the from the uh tentative budget. This is the

[1:33:02] essentially where we bring money in from

[1:33:04] the city and pay for the uh bond on the building at the

[1:33:08] public works building.

[1:33:11] » Any questions?

[1:33:13] We've had a chance to review it, so I

[1:33:15] would ask for a uh motion on resolution

[1:33:19] 0601.

[1:33:22] » So moved.

[1:33:24] >> I have a motion. Is there a second?

[1:33:28] » I'll second that.

[1:33:29] >> Moved and seconded Travis.

[1:33:31] >> Aye.

[1:33:32] >> Lynn?

[1:33:32] >> Aye.

[1:33:33] >> Jeff?

[1:33:33] >> Aye.

[1:33:34] >> Art?

[1:33:34] >> Aye.

[1:33:35] >> Brian?

[1:33:35] >> Aye.

[1:33:37] >> Motion passed. I need a motion to get

[1:33:39] out of the Santaquin local building

[1:33:41] authority.

[1:33:42] >> So moved.

[1:33:43] >> It's been moved. Is there a second?

[1:33:48] » I'll second.

[1:33:49] >> Moved and seconded Brian.

[1:33:51] >> Aye.

[1:33:52] >> Art?

[1:33:53] >> Aye.

[1:33:54] >> Jeff?

[1:33:55] >> Aye.

[1:33:55] >> Lynn?

[1:33:56] >> Aye.

[1:33:56] >> Travis?

[1:33:57] >> Hi.

[1:33:58] >> Back into a

[1:34:00] regular council meeting. We need to go

[1:34:02] into the special service district. I

[1:34:05] would entertain a motion to

[1:34:10] go into that

[1:34:13] special service district.

[1:34:15] >> So moved.

[1:34:17] >> Is there a second?

[1:34:18] >> [clears throat]

[1:34:19] >> I'll second.

[1:34:20] >> Moved and seconded. Brian.

[1:34:22] >> Hi.

[1:34:23] >> Art.

[1:34:23] >> Hi.

[1:34:24] >> Jeff.

[1:34:25] >> Hi.

[1:34:25] >> Lynn.

[1:34:25] >> Hi.

[1:34:26] >> Travis.

[1:34:26] >> Hi.

[1:34:27] >> We're now in the special service

[1:34:29] district for the water. So, um

[1:34:34] North, do you want to go through that?

[1:34:35] >> Yeah, board members and chair, this is

[1:34:37] the the water district, the special

[1:34:39] service district that deals with our

[1:34:41] water rights, our water assessments,

[1:34:43] some of our water assessments through

[1:34:45] the irrigation company and others.

[1:34:47] So, again, this is just a a mechanism, a

[1:34:49] sub entity of the city that allows us to

[1:34:51] be able to to deal with and and handle

[1:34:53] our water rights and assessments, et

[1:34:55] cetera. I'm happy to answer any

[1:34:56] questions. Again, this is not changed

[1:34:58] from the tentative budget.

[1:35:01] >> Any questions?

[1:35:03] Then I would entertain a motion from the

[1:35:05] board

[1:35:07] on that.

[1:35:10] » Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve

[1:35:12] resolution 0601-2026

[1:35:16] for the Santaquin Special Service

[1:35:17] District Water.

[1:35:19] >> I've had a motion. Is there a second?

[1:35:24] » I'll second.

[1:35:25] >> Moved and seconded. Brian.

[1:35:28] >> Hi.

[1:35:28] >> Art.

[1:35:29] >> Hi.

[1:35:29] >> Jeff.

[1:35:30] >> Hi.

[1:35:30] >> Lynn.

[1:35:31] >> Hi.

[1:35:31] >> Travis.

[1:35:32] >> Hi.

[1:35:33] >> Motion passed. I need a motion to

[1:35:38] go from the

[1:35:40] special service district back to council

[1:35:44] meeting.

[1:35:45] >> So moved.

[1:35:45] >> Seconded.

[1:35:46] >> Moved and seconded. Travis.

[1:35:48] >> Hi.

[1:35:49] >> Lynn.

[1:35:50] >> Hi.

[1:35:50] >> Jeff.

[1:35:51] >> Hi.

[1:35:51] >> Art.

[1:35:52] >> Hi.

[1:35:53] >> Brian.

[1:35:54] >> Hi.

[1:35:54] >> We are back in the

[1:35:57] fray of things. Okay.

[1:36:02] I would like to

[1:36:04] go into our reports for the officers

[1:36:08] and staff. So, Jason.

[1:36:10] >> Yeah, American Council. Uh

[1:36:12] a couple of things coming up on upcoming

[1:36:15] DRC meeting. That'll be next Tuesday. Uh

[1:36:18] we have likely the the site plan for a

[1:36:21] new Taco Bell. Uh this would be on the

[1:36:24] east side, sorry, west side of the

[1:36:26] Macy's parking lot. Uh it's gone through

[1:36:28] the DRC a couple times. There's some uh

[1:36:33] red lines and things with parking stuff

[1:36:35] that they need to address. So, uh we're

[1:36:37] anticipating that'll likely probably uh

[1:36:39] hopefully get get approved and and uh

[1:36:42] and can see that moving forward.

[1:36:45] Another site plan to make you aware of

[1:36:47] um

[1:36:48] is

[1:36:49] uh it's a proposal to convert the Cards

[1:36:53] gas station at the south exit to a

[1:36:55] Maverick.

[1:36:56] Uh as part of that

[1:36:58] uh conversion, they would add some some

[1:37:01] fuel pumps to the east side of the

[1:37:03] property for larger vehicles.

[1:37:05] So,

[1:37:07] yeah, there's that conversion will be a

[1:37:09] Maverick. I would anticipate that'll

[1:37:11] probably change the San Francisco

[1:37:13] Sourdough as well.

[1:37:14] Uh

[1:37:15] it's something we might talk with the

[1:37:16] mayor about to see what we can do to to

[1:37:18] keep that business. I know that's been a

[1:37:20] good business in in town. I guess Cards

[1:37:22] has has been as well, but uh

[1:37:24] anyways, uh something to make you aware

[1:37:26] of and and something that's going

[1:37:28] through a process to to uh

[1:37:30] modify that site.

[1:37:32] Uh for planning commission, we don't

[1:37:33] have any pending applications. There are

[1:37:35] is some some work being done internally

[1:37:37] for some more uh ordinance amendments

[1:37:39] just to clean some some things up and address some things. Uh we don't

[1:37:43] have the the time to to set a public

[1:37:45] hearing for those amendments. so uh

[1:37:48] those will likely come next meeting, so

[1:37:50] uh it looks like likely the planning

[1:37:51] commission meeting next Tuesday will be

[1:37:53] canceled due to lack of agenda items.

[1:37:56] Uh last thing I just want to make you

[1:37:57] aware of uh

[1:37:59] monthly we have employee luncheons,

[1:38:01] which we love for council members to

[1:38:02] come and and uh and and mingle with with

[1:38:05] our employees. Uh

[1:38:07] we usually do it on third Wednesdays of

[1:38:09] each month. This this month we are not

[1:38:11] doing it tomorrow. We're going to do it

[1:38:14] next week on Wednesday. Uh part of the

[1:38:16] reason we're doing that is we're we're

[1:38:18] uh working on doing a training for all

[1:38:21] of our staff, a mandatory training for

[1:38:23] uh for sexual harassment to make sure

[1:38:25] that that they're trained and and we

[1:38:27] can, you know, avoid any conflicts or or

[1:38:30] uh situations as HR issues arise, but uh we've got our uh employee assistance

[1:38:37] program, Blomquist Health is going to

[1:38:38] come and do that training. It's not

[1:38:40] required for staff for for council, but

[1:38:42] you're welcome to come for that

[1:38:43] training. It'll be at 11:30 and then

[1:38:45] we'll have uh an employee luncheon at

[1:38:47] 12:00, which

[1:38:48] you can come to any or all of it. Um

[1:38:51] so I think that's all I have to report

[1:38:53] unless you have any questions for me.

[1:38:57] » Okay, Norm.

[1:38:57] >> Yeah, Mayor and Council, just a couple

[1:38:59] of updates. So, a reminder on June 30th

[1:39:02] we will have a city council special city

[1:39:04] council meeting to close out the budget

[1:39:06] for this fiscal year that we're in.

[1:39:08] We've not gotten a We've not been able

[1:39:09] to get to the as we've been working on

[1:39:11] the final budget since

[1:39:14] several weeks ago. We've not been able

[1:39:16] to to get that put together, but you'll

[1:39:17] notice a public hearing notice will go

[1:39:19] out on Friday for that, but it's 2 weeks

[1:39:22] from tonight we will have a a special uh

[1:39:24] city council meeting just for you just

[1:39:26] have the one

[1:39:27] uh public hearing in the in the budget

[1:39:30] for the city and I think for the CDRA.

[1:39:33] We'll bring that back to you and you'll

[1:39:34] be able to look at that.

[1:39:35] >> That's at 5:00.

[1:39:37] >> Pardon me?

[1:39:38] >> That's at 5:00.

[1:39:39] >> that's correct. 5:00 5:00 p.m., that's

[1:39:40] correct.

[1:39:41] And and I don't imagine that's going to

[1:39:43] be a long meeting, maybe a half an hour,

[1:39:45] something of that nature. There's not

[1:39:46] going to be any other budget or any

[1:39:48] other agenda items but those two that

[1:39:50] I'm aware of at this point.

[1:39:52] Uh CUP update, they've I know that they

[1:39:54] had a a on-site meeting today. They're

[1:39:57] going to start getting that connection

[1:39:59] done and getting it put in.

[1:40:01] Um working on that out there in the

[1:40:03] field. The library update is looking

[1:40:04] very good. If you haven't been in the

[1:40:06] library, the carpet flooring,

[1:40:08] electrical, etc. They're doing some some

[1:40:10] minor touch-ups on cabinetry and and

[1:40:13] countertops. And uh and the elevator is

[1:40:17] supposed to be inspected in here in the

[1:40:19] next week or so. So, we're we're kind of

[1:40:21] getting to that end of July 1st or end

[1:40:23] of June 1st of July time frame that we

[1:40:25] thought about and now we're ordering

[1:40:26] FF&E and so, things are rolling over

[1:40:29] there and looking really good. On the

[1:40:30] rec building, you may If you haven't

[1:40:32] driven by there, they paved the the

[1:40:34] south parking lot for the new recreation

[1:40:36] building.

[1:40:37] I think they paved it towards the end of

[1:40:38] last week sometime, but it's paved now

[1:40:40] and striped and moving forward and

[1:40:42] looking good over there.

[1:40:44] Um the new website, I know that Molly

[1:40:46] sent to the to the all the council

[1:40:49] members that the new website is

[1:40:50] forthcoming. It's 2 days away. On

[1:40:52] Thursday, we're looking to go live with

[1:40:54] the new website. Last week, she sent you

[1:40:56] out a link to the new website that you

[1:40:58] can go kind of test drive and

[1:41:00] break it if you can and help us to

[1:41:02] understand if you have any questions or

[1:41:03] concerns, but recognizing that that's

[1:41:06] going to go live on on Thursday.

[1:41:10] Um I don't have anything else, but I'm

[1:41:11] happy to answer any questions that you

[1:41:13] may have.

[1:41:15] >> Okay.

[1:41:16] Chad?

[1:41:17] >> I have nothing to report tonight.

[1:41:20] >> Lynn?

[1:41:20] >> Nothing from me.

[1:41:22] >> Jeff?

[1:41:23] >> I don't have anything.

[1:41:24] >> Art?

[1:41:28] » Travis, would the youth council be

[1:41:31] willing to entertain the idea of placing

[1:41:34] about a a

[1:41:36] individual flags at

[1:41:38] specific grave sites in the cemetery

[1:41:41] for Memorial Day and Veterans Day. We've

[1:41:43] identified 14 veterans that were

[1:41:46] actually killed

[1:41:48] in a conflict.

[1:41:51] And we're hoping to identify those with

[1:41:53] a with a flag if and maybe the youth

[1:41:55] council would be

[1:41:57] willing to

[1:41:59] put those up for us.

[1:42:00] >> I'll visit with you afterwards.

[1:42:03] >> I I didn't hear you.

[1:42:04] >> I'll visit with you afterwards.

[1:42:06] >> Okay.

[1:42:09] Anything else?

[1:42:10] >> Um yeah, I have quite a bit.

[1:42:12] >> Okay.

[1:42:13] >> Um

[1:42:16] I know Jake's here. I don't know if he's

[1:42:18] here about

[1:42:19] a portable stage or not, but

[1:42:22] his wife has asked me, "Do we have a

[1:42:24] portable stage that we could use

[1:42:26] in um

[1:42:28] in our multi-purpose room or would the

[1:42:30] city be interested in purchasing

[1:42:32] a portable stage

[1:42:35] for certain events and activities and

[1:42:37] performances and stuff?

[1:42:39] Seniors could use it in

[1:42:42] other

[1:42:43] events that occur in in the

[1:42:45] multi-purpose room."

[1:42:46] >> Tammy probably has an answer to that.

[1:42:48] >> Have we

[1:42:58] » Do you have a any uh timing on that?

[1:43:00] Like, would it be here before November?

[1:43:07] » Time frame.

[1:43:10] >> Okay.

[1:43:12] Uh the American Legion is sponsoring a

[1:43:14] dinner for any veteran and a

[1:43:17] [clears throat] and a and a and a a

[1:43:18] guest of that veteran that lives in

[1:43:20] Santaquin for a dinner.

[1:43:22] And um

[1:43:24] Jake Kester's wife has secured a

[1:43:26] magician for entertainment and it would

[1:43:28] be very nice to have a a portable stage

[1:43:31] for the magician to be on.

[1:43:33] >> I will make sure to let

[1:43:35] Okay.

[1:43:36] The date for the dinner is Friday,

[1:43:38] November the 13th at

[1:43:40] 7:05.

[1:43:43] I don't know.

[1:43:44] Hold on.

[1:43:47] November 3rd. The dinner's at 5:30.

[1:43:52] Um

[1:43:53] fireworks, are we going to make any

[1:43:55] changes or do we want to have a

[1:43:57] discussion

[1:43:59] soon since [snorts] 4th of July is

[1:44:00] imminent about fireworks in the

[1:44:04] community?

[1:44:05] Uh

[1:44:07] >> So, our fireworks policy has not

[1:44:09] changed. The

[1:44:10] >> Guy, I know I'm I'm suggesting maybe we

[1:44:12] change it because of the dryness

[1:44:15] and not allow fireworks in the core part

[1:44:17] of town.

[1:44:18] >> I'm happy to visit with the fire chief

[1:44:20] about that and bring that back to you.

[1:44:22] >> Okay.

[1:44:23] How about the city fireworks for the

[1:44:26] celebration?

[1:44:28] >> So far as I know, they're moving

[1:44:29] forward.

[1:44:31] >> Okay.

[1:44:32] Um Shannon, what's the status of our

[1:44:35] rainy day fund? Are we still trying to

[1:44:38] make it healthier?

[1:44:45] » The only thing I can answer at this

[1:44:47] point

[1:44:47] >> You got to turn that mic on, Shannon.

[1:44:50] >> The only thing I can answer at this

[1:44:51] point is that um we there will be

[1:44:54] 330,000 that goes back to the

[1:44:57] um

[1:44:58] fund balance to pay ourselves back for

[1:45:01] the purchase of the cemetery property.

[1:45:03] We've been so focused on the final

[1:45:04] budget, I haven't even looked I mean,

[1:45:06] we've looked at it, but we just don't

[1:45:09] know what expenses are going to be

[1:45:10] coming in and revenues coming in in the

[1:45:11] last couple weeks, so.

[1:45:13] >> Right, but

[1:45:15] >> For sure, 330,000. That's what I can

[1:45:18] answer right now.

[1:45:19] >> It's on [laughter] our radar. Okay.

[1:45:20] >> Yes.

[1:45:21] >> Then I've had a couple citizens reach

[1:45:23] out to me regarding these flock cameras

[1:45:25] that uh

[1:45:27] that the city has has adopted them. I'm

[1:45:30] going to give a copy of these to

[1:45:32] Stephanie so she can include it in the

[1:45:34] minutes.

[1:45:36] One of them is from uh his first name is

[1:45:38] Adam. He says, "Hello. Although there's

[1:45:41] truth that Flock cameras can identify

[1:45:43] criminals and their activity, this does come off as lazy police work

[1:45:48] with the side effect of living in

[1:45:50] constant surveillance. I don't believe

[1:45:52] the trade-off for the constant

[1:45:53] surveillance justifies the ability to

[1:45:55] find information through these systems

[1:45:58] with the added

[1:46:00] detriment to our own privacy. I hope

[1:46:03] you'll take

[1:46:04] in the concerns of us in the city

[1:46:07] that the rise in restricted freedoms

[1:46:09] doesn't give us any hope

[1:46:11] that the world would be better for our

[1:46:12] children. Please consider taking them

[1:46:14] down so we can live in a little less

[1:46:17] involvement from our government."

[1:46:21] The other one's a little little lengthy.

[1:46:23] Um

[1:46:24] from a gentleman by the name of Cameron.

[1:46:28] He first reached out and he said, "Dear

[1:46:29] Councilman Adcock, I'm writing to you as

[1:46:31] a resident of Santaquin to express my

[1:46:33] strong opposition to the presence and

[1:46:35] funding of Flock safety cameras in our

[1:46:37] city. I do not support our city dollars

[1:46:39] being used to fund the surveillance

[1:46:41] technology.

[1:46:42] Furthermore, I have safe serious

[1:46:44] concerns regarding data privacy and do

[1:46:47] not trust that these systems will be

[1:46:48] used strictly for their stated purpose.

[1:46:51] As a constituent, I ask the city council

[1:46:53] reconsider any current or future

[1:46:55] financial commitment

[1:46:58] uh

[1:47:00] Flock safety cameras and prioritize the

[1:47:03] privacy and trust of our family. Thank

[1:47:05] you for your time and your service

[1:47:08] to the city. And I recognize our last

[1:47:10] meeting we funded that for the next 5

[1:47:12] years.

[1:47:13] My reply to that was, "I appreciate your

[1:47:15] concern. I'm glad to hear from a

[1:47:16] constituent.

[1:47:17] The city feels that the police chief's

[1:47:19] recommendation that they greatly

[1:47:21] increase the police's ability to

[1:47:23] identify and track those prone

[1:47:25] to committing crime, thus increasing the

[1:47:27] community's safety. Thank you for

[1:47:28] reaching out to me and sharing your

[1:47:30] concern.

[1:47:32] His response was keyword prone to

[1:47:34] committing a crime, not caught in the

[1:47:36] act of a crime, not actively committing

[1:47:38] crimes, but tracking and surveying

[1:47:41] and identifying people prone to commit a

[1:47:43] crime. It doesn't just track or survey

[1:47:46] those actively committing crimes, it is

[1:47:48] doing it to everyone.

[1:47:50] Police work has been done for years on

[1:47:51] relying on surveillance

[1:47:53] to police the community. I don't think

[1:47:55] is a good look, nor do many community

[1:47:57] members like the idea of Flock being in

[1:47:59] our community.

[1:48:00] Relying on constant surveillance, in my

[1:48:02] opinion, is lazy police work.

[1:48:05] Quote from Benjamin Franklin in his

[1:48:08] words to me, "Those who would give up

[1:48:10] essential liberty to purchase a little

[1:48:12] bit of safety deserve neither liberty

[1:48:15] nor safety." Again, Ben Franklin's

[1:48:17] quote.

[1:48:18] Continuing on his comments to me,

[1:48:20] "What studies were done and how the

[1:48:22] decision

[1:48:23] What studies were done or how was the

[1:48:25] decision made for where the cameras are

[1:48:27] placed?

[1:48:29] Communities across the country are now

[1:48:30] revoking their contracts with Flock over

[1:48:33] safety concerns and data breaches.

[1:48:35] When a government agency such as our

[1:48:37] police force begins constantly surveying

[1:48:39] its residents

[1:48:40] through the use of Flock cameras and

[1:48:42] similar things, that's where I believe

[1:48:44] it crosses the line.

[1:48:48] I'm not going to read this because it's

[1:48:53] page and a half,

[1:48:55] but it's addressing um from um

[1:49:00] It says citizen name Michelle.

[1:49:03] It's addressing addressing her concern.

[1:49:06] She lives down in Summer Ridge.

[1:49:08] Um her concern about the data center,

[1:49:11] and she raises she recognizes she's

[1:49:14] late on the on the on the wagon for

[1:49:16] discussion about this, but she raises

[1:49:19] um the concerns that we have all heard

[1:49:23] from other citizens in our community

[1:49:24] about the impact that that data center

[1:49:27] would have, and she's opposed to it.

[1:49:31] >> Thank you.

[1:49:34] Anything else?

[1:49:36] Brian?

[1:49:40] » I thought I had a lot. Um no, I'm glad

[1:49:42] you read those. Um I got some mean

[1:49:44] emails.

[1:49:45] Um

[1:49:48] I have one question.

[1:49:49] Uh

[1:49:51] how have the library donations gone? Has it they I know there were some

[1:49:56] commitments with the like with each

[1:49:58] permit or something there was

[1:49:59] commitments from certain donors. Is that

[1:50:02] still trending well?

[1:50:05] >> Uh the permits come in through and you

[1:50:07] see those. I don't I don't get a

[1:50:10] report every time we get one.

[1:50:13] But there's a couple of major

[1:50:14] >> I'm trying to What's the status like are

[1:50:15] we trending well that like what was

[1:50:17] committed we're getting and that there

[1:50:20] are enough commitments to meet the

[1:50:22] library needs?

[1:50:23] >> As far as those building building

[1:50:25] permits, um they are still coming in for

[1:50:27] that certain um

[1:50:28] contractor who um

[1:50:32] del- designated that amount per building

[1:50:34] permit. Um we just received two more.

[1:50:37] Um every time he picks up a building

[1:50:38] permit he comes in. I would say maybe

[1:50:40] two to three a month.

[1:50:43] And it's

[1:50:44] um the amount that they agreed on, so.

[1:50:47] >> Mhm.

[1:50:48] >> Yeah.

[1:50:48] >> Mhm. The The other one that's still

[1:50:50] outstanding is uh

[1:50:54] one that we won't see until

[1:50:56] November-ish.

[1:50:57] >> Right. Is that going to affect the

[1:50:59] library

[1:51:00] at all or are we looking at covering the cost and then just

[1:51:05] hopefully that that will come in to

[1:51:08] backfill kind of like a grant or

[1:51:09] something?

[1:51:10] >> Yes.

[1:51:10] >> Okay, okay.

[1:51:11] >> Yep.

[1:51:11] >> I I was just I was just worried that

[1:51:13] like that might hold it up.

[1:51:14] >> Yeah, in essence we have pledges and we

[1:51:16] have cash that we have received and so

[1:51:18] the pledges still continue to turn into

[1:51:20] cash. They're not they're not sick I

[1:51:22] mean they are significant but not on a

[1:51:24] daily basis other than the what what's

[1:51:26] been presented but but the the revenue

[1:51:29] continues to come in and the pledges

[1:51:30] continue to cover themselves and in and

[1:51:33] turn into to revenue so we will continue

[1:51:35] to collect that and and we have

[1:51:37] sufficient funds to move forward with

[1:51:38] the library FF&E.

[1:51:40] >> Good thing it's not daily. That would be

[1:51:41] a lot of processing and your

[1:51:42] entertainment.

[1:51:43] >> The amount The amount showing in capital

[1:51:45] projects coming from the Friends of

[1:51:46] Santaquin is the is the cash amount the

[1:51:49] value of the cash amount

[1:51:51] >> And we still have pledges up and above

[1:51:53] that.

[1:51:55] >> Okay, um,

[1:51:56] another thing is on June 30th I don't I

[1:51:59] just want to make sure I might not make

[1:52:01] it to the meeting in person. I don't

[1:52:03] know if we have to notice that. If we

[1:52:04] want to notice that for me to be remote,

[1:52:06] I can send a follow-up email after this.

[1:52:08] I'll try to make it but I'm going to be

[1:52:10] coming from somewhere so I don't want to

[1:52:12] hold that up.

[1:52:14] We had a Chamber of Commerce

[1:52:18] board meeting this morning.

[1:52:20] They're interested in using the

[1:52:22] multi-purpose room City Hall for the

[1:52:24] gala

[1:52:25] in February again.

[1:52:26] They liked the idea of switching off

[1:52:28] every other year like maybe in Payson

[1:52:30] and one in Santaquin.

[1:52:32] I can send a follow-up email. Do you

[1:52:34] want me to work with you, Norm? That

[1:52:36] would be

[1:52:37] earliest Thursday in February

[1:52:40] that the basically be from what like

[1:52:44] 1 or or 3:00 p.m. to the evening similar

[1:52:47] to last year.

[1:52:48] the 2 years ago.

[1:52:50] And that stage would come in handy

[1:52:52] because it is that was something that I

[1:52:55] said I was like it's kind of weird when

[1:52:56] we have events and you can't really see

[1:52:59] >> Third Thursday in February be the fourth

[1:53:00] or the 11th.

[1:53:01] >> Fourth or the 11th? Oh yeah, because of

[1:53:04] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's very

[1:53:06] helpful.

[1:53:08] Um no seniors, right?

[1:53:11] Or or what it That is that what you're

[1:53:13] saying?

[1:53:13] >> No, you I just set you on a day.

[1:53:16] >> Okay, okay.

[1:53:16] >> February 4th.

[1:53:17] >> But isn't seniors, when does that end?

[1:53:18] >> It's Tuesdays and Thursdays.

[1:53:20] >> What Do you know what time?

[1:53:21] >> They only take this Oh, they they're

[1:53:22] usually done by about 4:00, so that

[1:53:24] might not be enough time on a Thursday.

[1:53:26] >> Cuz I I don't want to I don't want to

[1:53:27] create enemies. Um

[1:53:30] Well, I know that there's routines

[1:53:31] there. Um

[1:53:34] Okay.

[1:53:35] >> You do You do bring up seniors, so

[1:53:36] senior citizens lunches will discontinue

[1:53:40] for the months of July. That's correct.

[1:53:42] >> That's good to know.

[1:53:44] Um

[1:53:46] And then the last thing is is I gave to

[1:53:50] every council member a draft of a memo.

[1:53:54] I wanted to create the least amount of

[1:53:57] work for city staff.

[1:53:58] Um

[1:54:00] and a proposed resolution

[1:54:02] um and a Q&A that has some questions and

[1:54:06] answers about that.

[1:54:07] I was hoping to talk about it during the

[1:54:09] work session, but I realized there's a

[1:54:10] lot more important things um to do.

[1:54:13] Um

[1:54:15] I emailed it to Norm and Mayor. Norm

[1:54:17] gave a lot of great feedback, some

[1:54:18] concerns around turnaround time, um

[1:54:21] different things.

[1:54:23] Um essentially what this resolution is is it stems from

[1:54:28] one was inspired when I went over the

[1:54:31] expenses

[1:54:32] that I was noticing that we could save.

[1:54:34] Um

[1:54:36] And Mayor said

[1:54:38] well, not all of us can do that, like

[1:54:39] parse through all that stuff.

[1:54:41] And I was like, well, yeah, because it

[1:54:43] took me such a long time because what I

[1:54:45] did is I took city council meeting

[1:54:48] agenda packets

[1:54:50] and parsed all of our check register

[1:54:53] stuff into an Excel document and then

[1:54:56] ran it through an analysis because part

[1:54:59] running PDFs through an analysis through

[1:55:02] like analysis software

[1:55:05] and even AI is like more difficult and

[1:55:07] so running through like a table format

[1:55:09] allows it to process it a lot better.

[1:55:12] Um

[1:55:13] and I realized, you know,

[1:55:15] and and I want to be very clear

[1:55:18] uh about this.

[1:55:20] Norm has been extremely helpful in

[1:55:22] helping me get a lot of things that I

[1:55:24] asked. I'm very inquisitive and I ask a

[1:55:26] lot of things.

[1:55:28] A while back, I did ask about getting

[1:55:32] to Norm about getting

[1:55:35] the check register for a whole year.

[1:55:37] That was something that there was a

[1:55:39] little bit of pushback and and I I'm want to say Norm makes his

[1:55:43] best effort

[1:55:45] to help me with these things, but I

[1:55:46] think that there's unclear expectations

[1:55:48] and there's not accountability on my end

[1:55:51] on our end or on their end in in a

[1:55:54] formal process of, "Hey, how do we go

[1:55:56] about as city council members requesting

[1:55:59] documents?" I realized that

[1:56:01] it was literally just like one-off calls

[1:56:04] to Norm while he's doing a million other

[1:56:06] things and he's having to juggle that.

[1:56:10] And then, you know, it's like, "Well,

[1:56:13] should I talk with Brett about whether I

[1:56:14] can legally give that to you or not?"

[1:56:16] There were other instances where I asked

[1:56:18] for audio recordings of meetings and was

[1:56:21] directed to do a grammar request. And I

[1:56:24] think everyone's trying to do the best

[1:56:26] thing that they that they should do.

[1:56:28] Um but I think that there's unclear

[1:56:30] expectations and for us as city council

[1:56:32] members to be able to do our jobs

[1:56:35] the grammar request process, one, is

[1:56:37] meant for the public, not for us.

[1:56:40] And and two

[1:56:42] I think that there there that we need to

[1:56:45] have access to things such as check

[1:56:48] registers in an easy digestible format

[1:56:50] for us to make the best decisions.

[1:56:52] There's a lot of other things, you know,

[1:56:54] I met with

[1:56:56] um

[1:56:58] uh Chief Land about uh stats on EMS and

[1:57:02] he was able to quickly pull that up for

[1:57:04] me.

[1:57:04] Um and and so I and and I make a lot of

[1:57:07] one-off requests, you know, like I asked

[1:57:10] Chief Hurst about some stuff about

[1:57:11] quotes and different things and I think

[1:57:13] that there should be probably a formal

[1:57:16] process for that, which is

[1:57:19] what this does is it essentially

[1:57:22] says, "Hey, if we're a council member

[1:57:23] and we want information from staff, we

[1:57:26] have to put in writing certain things."

[1:57:28] And it's one, the name of the requesting

[1:57:31] council member, the date of our request,

[1:57:34] and then a specific description of the

[1:57:35] information or files requested.

[1:57:39] And then why?

[1:57:40] Um so there's a paper trail because I

[1:57:42] don't think it's appropriate for council

[1:57:45] members to create too much burden for

[1:57:48] our staff

[1:57:49] for no reason.

[1:57:51] Um

[1:57:52] and that gives staff a reason to say,

[1:57:54] "Hey, this is not

[1:57:56] you like you're asking all the wrong

[1:57:58] things. I think you should actually want

[1:57:59] this." Or or even call out what I don't

[1:58:02] think would happen for many of our

[1:58:03] council members is like a harassment via

[1:58:07] so many requests.

[1:58:09] And then what that does

[1:58:11] is then

[1:58:12] whoever it is, whether it's the city

[1:58:14] manager, the city recorder,

[1:58:17] or department head, they have two

[1:58:19] business days to be able to get back to

[1:58:20] you and say, "Hey, here this is or I

[1:58:24] can't get this to you within two

[1:58:25] business days. Maybe there's a million

[1:58:26] other things going on like there always

[1:58:28] is." And they can just come back and set

[1:58:30] any reasonable timeline. So in that

[1:58:32] resolution,

[1:58:34] it accounts for

[1:58:35] leave, out of office staff is

[1:58:38] limited staff bandwidth. So if I were to

[1:58:40] request a check register and say

[1:58:42] Shannon's gone for the next month,

[1:58:45] it could literally just be, "Hey,

[1:58:47] we'll get you that in two months. That's

[1:58:49] the most reasonable thing." And it's in

[1:58:51] writing so that everybody's accountable,

[1:58:53] and there's there's those clear

[1:58:55] expectations. Or, "Hey, you know, we're

[1:58:58] getting the budget made. Ryan, I can't

[1:59:00] really get you that report tomorrow

[1:59:01] because there's a bunch of other

[1:59:02] pressing issues.

[1:59:04] This is the timeline that I can get it

[1:59:06] for you. Is that okay?"

[1:59:08] And everything's in writing, and that

[1:59:09] way we're accountable, there's clear

[1:59:10] expectations.

[1:59:12] Um

[1:59:14] and and and then the the the last part

[1:59:17] about this resolution is

[1:59:20] um

[1:59:21] PDFs are great, but it's really hard to

[1:59:23] navigate PDFs. If anyone's done like any

[1:59:25] budgeting um or anything, being able to

[1:59:28] use Excel and quickly filter, run

[1:59:30] analysis, do formulas, that's way

[1:59:32] easier. And so, if there are documents

[1:59:35] that have originated I mean, no document

[1:59:37] originates as a PDF, to be quite frank.

[1:59:40] That's just like a final version of a

[1:59:41] document.

[1:59:43] If there are documents that have started

[1:59:46] out as an Excel document, like for

[1:59:47] example, if I were to say I wanted the

[1:59:49] schedule for this new building,

[1:59:52] rather than export it as a PDF and send

[1:59:54] it to me, what if I could just get that

[1:59:56] as an Excel document, and I could

[1:59:58] analyze that and quickly be able to make

[2:00:00] the right decisions that I need to

[2:00:02] as an elected official.

[2:00:05] So, it sets that expectation that if

[2:00:07] there are those files, that those are

[2:00:10] the ones that should be provided.

[2:00:12] Um and I think that's like obviously a

[2:00:14] given. Um

[2:00:16] I asked Norm the other day for the copy

[2:00:19] of the tentative and the final. Um and

[2:00:21] he got them to me in Excel documents,

[2:00:23] and that was super great because I was

[2:00:24] able to

[2:00:25] what Shannon just did for us is I was

[2:00:28] able to just quick run a diff, a diff

[2:00:31] finding what's different, and quickly

[2:00:32] see. And so,

[2:00:34] I mean, Shannon beat me. I didn't even

[2:00:35] ask any questions because she went

[2:00:37] through that already.

[2:00:39] And so, all the questions that I had

[2:00:41] listed down of what's the difference

[2:00:42] between this, she answered. And so, that

[2:00:45] was super helpful what Norm did for me

[2:00:46] because that allowed me to come prepared

[2:00:49] to city council with questions rather

[2:00:51] than

[2:00:52] analyze this document or just work off a

[2:00:54] PDF

[2:00:56] and then within 5 minutes have to

[2:00:57] approve that. I don't think our

[2:00:59] residents expect that of us

[2:01:01] or is that reasonable?

[2:01:03] Um and then

[2:01:05] um there's a one other thing which is

[2:01:07] just like the protection of confidential

[2:01:08] data. That's just setting like a clear

[2:01:11] expectation that like yeah, if there are

[2:01:14] documents that shouldn't be disclosed to

[2:01:17] city council that there are exceptions.

[2:01:19] Like no, I'm not going to give you that

[2:01:21] document or oh hey, you can come to my

[2:01:23] office and look at that on the computer,

[2:01:25] but we don't want to create a bunch of

[2:01:26] random files out there

[2:01:28] for it to be you know, shared in an

[2:01:30] inappropriate way because there are

[2:01:31] documents that are protected or private

[2:01:34] under the law and that's okay. Um

[2:01:37] but it sets a clear of hey, if that is

[2:01:39] the case then city staff would tell you

[2:01:42] hey, that's the case and that's in

[2:01:43] writing. And I think that it creates

[2:01:45] accountability both for elected

[2:01:47] officials, but also for city staff to be

[2:01:49] able to keep us accountable, but also

[2:01:51] create a process so that Norm or city

[2:01:53] recorder or any department head isn't

[2:01:56] overly burdened by any questions that we

[2:01:59] have.

[2:02:00] Um

[2:02:03] but um

[2:02:04] if there's any questions, feel free to

[2:02:06] ask me. I've tried to put together a Q&A

[2:02:09] document

[2:02:11] that talks about maybe some concerns

[2:02:13] that you might have.

[2:02:15] Um

[2:02:17] such as

[2:02:18] like how does this benefit me? This is

[2:02:20] geared towards residents, but like how

[2:02:21] does this benefit me? What does this do?

[2:02:24] Um will this place a heavy burden on

[2:02:27] city staff or cost money?

[2:02:29] Um and in that specific case is the

[2:02:30] processing of a formal GRAMA request

[2:02:32] takes a significant amount of

[2:02:33] administrative time.

[2:02:35] And so this actually in my opinion

[2:02:37] eliminates paperwork that's not needed.

[2:02:39] Um Um, I'm not saying like I think that it's appropriate for

[2:02:43] the public to use grammar and it's

[2:02:45] appropriate in those ways, but I I think

[2:02:48] that as elected officials setting those

[2:02:49] clear expectations because it's

[2:02:51] difficult for any department head or

[2:02:52] norm to know how to handle that without

[2:02:55] clear expectations of how do I handle

[2:02:58] this request and and what's allowed. Um,

[2:03:01] and I think this sets up not just

[2:03:03] beneficial for the current council, but

[2:03:06] I'm not going to be here forever and

[2:03:07] neither of us hopefully. I mean,

[2:03:09] hopefully we get a break from this that

[2:03:10] it sets that expectation and while I would love for Norm to be

[2:03:16] here forever and most of almost all of

[2:03:19] our department heads all of our

[2:03:20] department heads to be here for a long

[2:03:21] time,

[2:03:22] they're going to change too and so I

[2:03:24] think that this resolution establishes

[2:03:26] that.

[2:03:27] Um,

[2:03:28] state law allows for

[2:03:31] uh

[2:03:32] cities to establish their own internal

[2:03:35] records access policies and so that's

[2:03:37] what this is doing. Is it's just setting

[2:03:39] things clear expectations.

[2:03:41] Um, but if there are any concerns or

[2:03:43] questions,

[2:03:44] please reach out to me. Um, is this

[2:03:47] possible to get this on the next

[2:03:49] uh mayor the next regular session?

[2:03:52] >> want to look at it and we'll probably

[2:03:53] put it on a work session.

[2:03:56] >> It would it be able to be I mean, given

[2:03:58] that we have so much time,

[2:04:00] could we not put it on for the regular

[2:04:02] session? I mean, the council can choose

[2:04:04] to accept or not accept it, but at least

[2:04:06] it's there.

[2:04:07] >> just took 15 minutes, which you said was

[2:04:09] only going to be a minute. So,

[2:04:12] I I'm worried about time.

[2:04:14] >> Yeah, well well, I mean, now everybody

[2:04:16] has all of these documents.

[2:04:18] I've provided them to Norm. I provided

[2:04:20] them to you for multiple days.

[2:04:23] I think that this should be enough time

[2:04:25] that in the meantime if council members

[2:04:27] want to ask me questions

[2:04:29] that

[2:04:31] and and we'll have a work session where

[2:04:32] we talk about agenda items that we could

[2:04:35] still just vote on it

[2:04:37] in the next regular session. And if And if the council says, "Hey, actually

[2:04:42] that wasn't enough time." then we can

[2:04:43] table it, but at least there's the

[2:04:45] option there, is what I'm saying.

[2:04:47] >> So, we can look at it. I think, you

[2:04:49] know, [clears throat] I want to get a

[2:04:50] little feedback from everybody and

[2:04:52] they'll have a chance to look down

[2:04:54] through this, too, and see what what it

[2:04:57] means to them.

[2:04:58] I don't think there's anybody worried

[2:04:59] about getting you the information that

[2:05:01] you want and

[2:05:04] it may sound even worse than it really

[2:05:06] is. So,

[2:05:07] uh

[2:05:08] it's it's just a matter of we doing it

[2:05:10] all correct and is there anything we

[2:05:12] want to adjust?

[2:05:14] >> Well, I mean, I guess

[2:05:16] why can't it be on the session to be

[2:05:19] voted on?

[2:05:21] Like that that's what we do is is things

[2:05:23] get put up for that and then

[2:05:25] we decide like I I I don't see why

[2:05:29] we can't have it for a vote.

[2:05:32] Like it to be able to be voted on,

[2:05:34] whether it's accepted, denied,

[2:05:37] or tabled.

[2:05:41] Cuz then it is on the agenda and we do

[2:05:42] have the right to talk about it. That's

[2:05:45] why That's why I want like

[2:05:46] >> a problem a problem with that. I just

[2:05:49] hadn't looked at it or thought about it,

[2:05:52] you know.

[2:05:53] Do I Do we need to have it on there to

[2:05:56] vote or do we want to talk about it in

[2:05:57] the meeting in the meeting and

[2:06:01] But if you want it on that agenda

[2:06:04] and and that's the way it has to be to

[2:06:06] make you happy?

[2:06:09] >> Well, that's why That's what I'm That's

[2:06:10] what I'm That is what I'm requesting is that it can be even like a discuss

[2:06:14] and possible action type of thing.

[2:06:16] Like we have that for the rap tax and different things

[2:06:20] like those things haven't necessarily

[2:06:22] been looked at well in advance, but

[2:06:25] like I feel like it's been like common

[2:06:27] practice to say, "Hey, here's this

[2:06:29] thing. We can discuss and there's

[2:06:30] possible action, but it doesn't

[2:06:34] like and and and we've tabled stuff

[2:06:36] before, too.

[2:06:38] So, I mean, I don't know

[2:06:44] like why we would delay putting it on

[2:06:46] the regular session agenda

[2:06:48] if there's an ability to table it and to

[2:06:50] discuss it and delay it if if we wanted.

[2:06:55] » Does everybody want to discuss it at a

[2:06:57] meeting?

[2:06:58] >> to discuss it.

[2:06:59] >> Pardon?

[2:06:59] >> I'd like to discuss it.

[2:07:00] >> You want it in a regular council?

[2:07:02] >> I think we should discuss it in a work

[2:07:04] session.

[2:07:07] » There's a work session.

[2:07:09] Then?

[2:07:12] » [clears throat]

[2:07:12] >> Yeah, I'm not sure how Like I said, I

[2:07:13] haven't had time to read through it or

[2:07:15] talk about it, but I feel like we ought to talk about it as

[2:07:20] a council first. I don't care if it's in

[2:07:22] a council meeting or

[2:07:23] work session, but I think we ought to

[2:07:24] have a chance to talk about it.

[2:07:27] Discuss it.

[2:07:28] You have a feeling?

[2:07:30] >> I'm okay either way, but if we put it on

[2:07:31] the regular agenda, we can or the

[2:07:33] regular regular meeting, we can still

[2:07:35] talk about it work session beforehand.

[2:07:36] We go through the agenda items anyways.

[2:07:38] >> Sure.

[2:07:40] >> All right.

[2:07:41] >> I like what what um

[2:07:43] he said.

[2:07:44] >> Okay, so it'll be on the it'll be on the

[2:07:46] work session while we just discuss it

[2:07:48] >> It's been a long road.

[2:07:49] >> briefly and then we'll put it on the

[2:07:51] work session. Okay.

[2:07:53] >> On the regular session or the work

[2:07:54] session?

[2:07:54] >> Or I mean, on the regular session.

[2:07:56] >> Okay. Okay. Cuz just because it's on the

[2:07:58] regular session doesn't mean that

[2:07:59] council is supporting it or approving

[2:08:02] it. It just means that it's up for

[2:08:03] consideration. That's all.

[2:08:05] >> That's

[2:08:06] >> Okay.

[2:08:07] >> Yeah.

[2:08:07] >> Thanks.

[2:08:08] Um

[2:08:10] >> Your time's up.

[2:08:11] >> I That was it.

[2:08:13] Uh other than other than the it was a

[2:08:15] great uh Hometown Market

[2:08:18] and um city staff did an amazing job and

[2:08:21] the chamber did amazing job. Um and so,

[2:08:25] I'm really I I'm really optimistic about

[2:08:27] where things are going with that.

[2:08:29] That's it.

[2:08:30] >> Okay, I've got uh few things I need to

[2:08:33] go over. Um

[2:08:35] Jake, thank you for being here today.

[2:08:38] Um

[2:08:39] Jake [clears throat] met with me uh

[2:08:41] about a month ago and we went through uh

[2:08:45] offer

[2:08:46] that he had made. Now, I don't know how

[2:08:48] deep I want to get into that offer right

[2:08:50] now, but

[2:08:51] Jake and his brother Joel

[2:08:54] um

[2:08:55] would like to help us with the

[2:08:57] roof of the museum.

[2:09:00] A substantial

[2:09:02] uh donation to help us.

[2:09:05] We need to worry about

[2:09:06] uh

[2:09:07] the rest of that money to help to cover

[2:09:10] that and I've kind of been holding off

[2:09:14] because we need to have a long

[2:09:16] discussion about the bats are back.

[2:09:20] And so, there's $18,000 that we need for

[2:09:23] the bats.

[2:09:24] Um the boiler has gone down. Jason, what

[2:09:28] were your feelings on that boiler and

[2:09:31] the pipes associated?

[2:09:33] >> You mean the series of Band-Aids?

[2:09:36] >> Band-Aids on pipes?

[2:09:38] >> The boiler's relatively well. It's It's

[2:09:42] It was put in the year before I hired

[2:09:43] here, so it's 28 years old.

[2:09:46] So, but the pipes in there are even

[2:09:49] older than that. They're They're and

[2:09:51] they've just sat there in the crawl

[2:09:53] space and they're starting to rust out

[2:09:55] and we've had multiple issues the last

[2:09:57] couple years trying to get in there and

[2:09:59] repair pipes and

[2:10:01] it's uh it's the quite the process to to

[2:10:04] get in there and and the the plumbing

[2:10:07] needs to be

[2:10:08] changed. We need up update it.

[2:10:11] >> So, there's a substantial amount to uh

[2:10:14] come up with that, too?

[2:10:16] >> Yeah. Yeah, it's it's it's quite a bit

[2:10:18] of money. I think it was right around It

[2:10:20] was 100 100 and thousand dollars to to

[2:10:23] do that.

[2:10:24] >> Something to keep it going. So

[2:10:27] you know, there's one other issue and

[2:10:29] that was in the budget for this year. We

[2:10:31] had money to put an elevator in and

[2:10:33] that's what we want to do with

[2:10:34] >> A fire escape not an elevator.

[2:10:36] >> Fire escape. [laughter]

[2:10:38] I would rather have the elevator and

[2:10:39] then we're ADA.

[2:10:40] >> but they're about three times as much.

[2:10:42] >> Yeah.

[2:10:45] But there's still a bit of money to be spent on it. We

[2:10:49] need a discussion so that the Caster

[2:10:52] family will know what we want to do.

[2:10:56] And

[2:10:57] um

[2:10:59] how we can look at

[2:11:01] keeping that thing alive.

[2:11:03] You know, if if we don't pour some

[2:11:07] serious money into this

[2:11:09] and grateful for the Casters even

[2:11:12] considering what they can do for the

[2:11:14] city because

[2:11:16] they're a family of service and

[2:11:19] you know, you've always stepped up and I

[2:11:22] appreciate that very much, Jake. And

[2:11:25] I'm sorry I haven't given you back an

[2:11:27] answer because every time I turn around

[2:11:29] and start talking about the museum,

[2:11:31] another issue comes up. And I didn't

[2:11:33] even know the bats were back at the at

[2:11:36] the time. Uh I thought we

[2:11:38] solved that, but every time you have to

[2:11:40] pay another twenty thousand dollars to

[2:11:43] take care of the bats you also have to

[2:11:46] arrange it around when they've headed

[2:11:49] off for their yearly head to the jungle. I don't

[2:11:53] know. So

[2:11:55] um

[2:11:56] we'll get an answer soon and I think on

[2:11:59] the next work session that's one more

[2:12:02] thing I would like to put on there is

[2:12:04] the museum

[2:12:06] and talk about it, but I also have a

[2:12:08] couple of other things, too. And

[2:12:11] that is

[2:12:12] I I would like to start in the next

[2:12:14] month or two talking about what are we

[2:12:17] going to do with the old library?

[2:12:19] >> Mhm. And what can we make with that? And

[2:12:22] how can we improve

[2:12:24] life in Santaquin? Are Are there things

[2:12:26] we haven't thought about?

[2:12:28] And so, we need a discussion there.

[2:12:32] Um

[2:12:33] there's there's one other thing and it's

[2:12:35] another family that lives in town has

[2:12:38] given us

[2:12:40] um

[2:12:41] their log cabin, the Hudson family.

[2:12:45] It's sitting now down at the public

[2:12:47] works building and um

[2:12:50] we need to figure out if we can

[2:12:53] put it in a good place.

[2:12:55] We've got a little bit of work that we

[2:12:57] need to come up with. We've had people

[2:12:59] that have offered money to help us with

[2:13:02] that as well.

[2:13:03] Um but that is the original farmer

[2:13:07] that started apple farming in Santaquin.

[2:13:11] He's the one that was the first shipper

[2:13:13] of apples to California from Utah.

[2:13:17] Um

[2:13:19] there's a lot to be said with what we

[2:13:21] have in heritage

[2:13:23] with good families, but also with people

[2:13:26] that are willing to give,

[2:13:28] you know,

[2:13:29] a good piece.

[2:13:31] So, we've got that to look at. We need

[2:13:33] to discuss that as well. So,

[2:13:36] we don't need that on top of everything

[2:13:38] else we have to do next month, but

[2:13:41] probably within a um

[2:13:43] the month of that,

[2:13:45] we need to put the Hudson home on there

[2:13:47] as well.

[2:13:49] I think they had eight children in that

[2:13:51] house. Jeez.

[2:13:55] Smaller than a shed.

[2:13:57] And then finally, uh CUP.

[2:14:01] Have they made the hookup yet? And are

[2:14:04] we at the point that we can we are

[2:14:06] drawing water from the CUP?

[2:14:09] >> They're working on that now. I reported

[2:14:11] on that in my meeting. They I know they

[2:14:12] met on site today and we're getting

[2:14:14] ready to do to connect into our line and

[2:14:16] build the the system. They were just

[2:14:18] waiting on parts and materials and still

[2:14:20] waiting on some parts and materials. So,

[2:14:22] >> How how far out are the parts? Have they cut into it yet?

[2:14:26] >> Not yet. But, that's my understanding is

[2:14:29] Please, Jason. You you John and Jason

[2:14:31] met with them earlier today.

[2:14:33] >> Yeah, Mayor Council, we met with them on

[2:14:36] site this day today and uh they are

[2:14:38] going to do the hot tap on Thursday.

[2:14:41] So, they have the valve, they have the

[2:14:43] tapping sleeve on.

[2:14:44] They plan on doing that to Thursday

[2:14:46] morning.

[2:14:47] And they did say that the parts were

[2:14:50] uh

[2:14:50] coming that they're

[2:14:52] the one item that is going to be lagging

[2:14:55] is the meter.

[2:14:56] >> [clears throat]

[2:14:56] >> But, they've already offered a solution

[2:14:58] there. They're going to put a spool

[2:15:00] piece in. We think we can still operate

[2:15:02] the valve

[2:15:04] uh without the meter until the meter

[2:15:06] gets in. So, with those valves, you can

[2:15:08] pretty much tell how much water you're

[2:15:10] getting by how far they're open. So,

[2:15:13] we should come up with a solution there.

[2:15:16] Hoping around the 24th of July or so is

[2:15:18] what they were telling us.

[2:15:19] >> Mhm.

[2:15:20] >> Okay. I was hoping a little sooner.

[2:15:24] Okay, that is all that I had. Well, I

[2:15:27] did have a couple other things, but

[2:15:29] we'll forget that. Um

[2:15:32] I need a motion to

[2:15:36] go into a closed session that may be

[2:15:38] called to discuss pending or reasonably

[2:15:41] imminent litigation, collective

[2:15:43] bargaining, and or the purchase,

[2:15:45] exchange, or lease of real property,

[2:15:48] a proposed development agreement, a

[2:15:50] project proposal, or a financing

[2:15:52] proposal related to the development of

[2:15:55] land owned by the state.

[2:15:57] >> So moved.

[2:15:58] >> Is there a second?

[2:16:01] >> I'll second.

[2:16:03] >> Brian?

[2:16:03] >> Aye.

[2:16:04] >> Art?

[2:16:04] >> Aye.

[2:16:05] >> Jeff?

[2:16:05] >> Aye.

[2:16:06] >> Lynn?

[2:16:07] >> Aye.

[2:16:08] >> Travis?

[2:16:08] >> Aye.

[2:16:09] >> It's 9:27.

[2:16:11] Uh we will go into that closed session.

[2:16:14] At the end of the closed session, we'll

[2:16:16] come back in here and close council

[2:16:18] meeting. So,

[2:16:19] thank you for being here and uh

[2:16:22] appreciate you.

Santaquin City Council Regular Meeting - June 16, 2026

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