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Thank you.
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>> Goodbye.
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» It's nice to see you.
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>> Thank you.
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All right, let's get the
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August 25th DRC started.
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Um it is
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10:30 a.m.
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Uh
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we'll dive right in.
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Just looking at it.
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>> Let me turn my mic on. Um
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we have the applicant here for Apple
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Hollow B5
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for that that review. Um so if there's
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any concerns with the DRC, we may move
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that one up on the agenda just to
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>> Let's do
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>> consideration for him. So.
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Okay.
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So for the Orchards B3, this is or say B
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um
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final phase for the Orchards
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uh phase B. So this is located on the
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west side of Center Street. It's the
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last uh bank of town homes that um would
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be constructed within this this
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development. It includes the
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construction of Ginger Gold Road from
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uh and the completion of that roadway
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and those improvements along there.
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Um
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this is a a final approval um for this.
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>> It is actually final cuz it did receive
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preliminary. Preliminary.
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>> The agenda did I just noticed that did
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say preliminary, but it is a final plan
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review for this specific application.
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So DRC is the approval body for the
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final final approval on there.
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Um
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so with that, let me get the right plan
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set pulled up.
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So um again, this is
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um
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yeah, so it is this section here that's
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shown
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along the north side. It's the the last
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bank of townhomes and does connect 260
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West over to 90 90 West as as part of
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the development. It is
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on it just so where where those roadways
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are constructed a
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uh
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will be constructed a public to the city
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standards and specifications because it
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is a it will be a public road. And there
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are not many private roadways on there.
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>> Hey John, can you remind me on that
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connection to 90 West? Does it take out
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those existing parking stalls or do they
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remain?
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>> Yes, so
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>> out a couple of them. Okay.
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>> can see in there it removes those ones
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and they are putting two
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uh two new ones back.
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>> and then other ones along the the
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roadway there. Okay. Great. Thank you.
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>> Um
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So with that, we'll that introduction, I
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will go around the DRC with any comments
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or questions that that we may have on
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it. We're starting with Morgan with
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community development.
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>> Uh thank you. So we need to have uh so
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we need to install commercial grade weed
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barrier um fabric.
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And then also a data table that shows at
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least 30% of the of the site will be
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landscaped and of that 30% 50% shall be
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of live plant material. So that needs to
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be reflected in the table.
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>> Yeah. So we'll pull up the landscaping
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plans on that here real quick.
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There we go.
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So you're talking about the the fabric
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through here and
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as it's So anywhere that has the cobble
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as shown needs that that weed barrier
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fabric.
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Okay.
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>> It's not in the notes already?
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» Um we'll need to verify. I don't believe
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it is.
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So, yeah, just a addition to the note on
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there would be be adequate.
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>> And yeah, the other was the the the
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table for the 30% coverage for
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landscaping and then of the 30% 50%
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being of live plant material.
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» And you just want to see that in a table
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format.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Okay.
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And that's 50% live plant material at
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maturity, right?
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>> Yep.
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>> It's not at at inception.
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>> Right.
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» Okay. Anything else?
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>> Yep, that's it.
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>> Randy, with building?
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>> I did not go through the address you
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know on this because it said it was
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preliminary, so I will do that and we
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can get that sent off to you.
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>> Okay. Sounds good. Thank you.
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Jason, public works?
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>> Just adding that PI drain that we talked
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about yesterday.
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>> Yep.
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>> And then making sure that the manholes
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and that are for the crossings that go
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to the WRF
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all of those are shown and and where
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they're at on the plans we did they
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weren't covered. I think you had a
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comment on the lines also, so
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>> Right. Yep.
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>> And and then noted to be protected in
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place, right?
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>> Yes. Yes.
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>> Yes.
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>> Yep.
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>> So, what that is is approximately this
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location we've got the
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um
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our city facilities that get our uh,
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from our lift station, Center Street
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lift station um we've got an 18-in line
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that runs through there and then heads
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north across the railroad tracks. Um
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those need to be shown and noted
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protected in place for um for when a
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contractor does come online there where
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those those are in place.
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>> So, John, they probably ought to show
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the new lines and the existing lines
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that were done with the
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ULS pipeline, right? They did some
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reconfiguration. Is that shown here in
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the green and purple or is that not?
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>> No, these these lines
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>> you need
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>> them with the with the GIS to have them
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show that on there?
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>> Yes.
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>> Okay.
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>> Yep, we will.
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>> Just more than anything for the
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contractor to to protect those. That's
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Those are lines that we don't want to
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hit.
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>> Yeah.
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>> We don't want to find them the hard way.
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>> No.
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Um on that same note, um
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there is now with the Central Utah
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pipeline being through there, um you
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will need to work on with Central Utah
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[snorts] Water Conservancy District to
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get a encroachment permit for that. Um
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uh because that line is in there and
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it's um it's in operation. I from come
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>> that from me.
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>> Yes, we'll need to get that um
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>> Well, they had to get it from me to put
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their line in, didn't they?
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>> Correct, yes. But
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>> But but now it's in turn we get to go
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back and visit with them about having an
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encroachment permit within their
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existing easement.
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>> Correct. Yes. Now it just goes around.
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So,
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>> constructed these years ago, no?
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>> [laughter]
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>> So, but then just uh also something to
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indicate, you know, for the contractor
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when they do come in,
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um
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that that line is there. Uh it would be
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could be impacted by it. The fact that
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you're not putting any utilities over
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the top of it um simplifies that
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process. So.
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Okay, Jason, any other comments?
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>> we're good.
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>> Okay.
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Mike, police?
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>> We've got nothing on this one.
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>> Okay. Norm?
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>> So, John, can you go back to the
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original sheet, the first sheet in there
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that shows the B I think it's B2
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improvements, the the landscaping right
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there.
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Is is that all done in the in the phase
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next to it? Is that the the top lot and
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the other stuff? Is that all
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constructed?
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>> This is not yet constructed. Is there
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the units are still
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These units are still under
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construction.
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>> And so as far as the development is
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concerned development agreement is
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concerned, they would need to have those
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done
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or and or bonded for, right, in order to
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get to get CFOs in there as far as that
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goes.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And and is it the plan to get those
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constructed this year
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this this construction season?
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>> Uh I got a little Do you want me to go
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up there?
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>> Yeah, that'd be great. Good job, thank
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you.
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Oh, sorry about that.
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We should have brought the microphone to
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you.
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>> [laughter]
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>> So,
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uh John Caldwell for Beer Homes. Um we
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have a little elevation issue going on
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right there. I don't know if any of you
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guys have looked at it, but it from like
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that 10-plex and those six-plexes the
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six-plex and I believe that's a five, it
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drops off quite a bit. Um looking at the
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future road that's going in, that road
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actually sinks down instead of you know,
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that first road that we just put in at
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the 10-plex
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uh driveway space, that road actually
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climbs, crowns in the middle and goes
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back down. The next road down, I can't
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tell the numbers on it, but yeah, that
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road That one actually slopes down the
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whole way. So
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>> northeast.
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>> Yeah, so we're going to have some major
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elevation changes between
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those that I don't think was accounted
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for as far as that part goes. So,
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my thinking is is we need to get that road in and put those build lift
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those buildings up in elevation so that
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we can
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flatten that area out for the park cuz
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right now, if you go back there, it's a
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pretty good slope.
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So,
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I don't know
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we could build up the ground and
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just, you know, slope it off hard to
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that next phase to get that landscaping
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in.
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But I kind of need to get that road in
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and
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kind of building into
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>> to clarify, so are you talking about the the 960 North
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is going to have to be different from
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what's designed or you just need to the
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material there to go into the park area.
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Is that what you're you're talking about
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the X that you got to excavation you got
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to do to get the road built?
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>> Right.
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>> that stuff into the to the
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playground area. Is that what you're
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talking about?
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>> Yeah, I got to figure out those that
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there's just a big slope. So, I got to
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figure out the elevations and then in
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order to do that kind of need that road
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in to see how much it's going to change.
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>> But not changing the slopes of the road
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and storm drain and all that kind of
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stuff you're talking about about using
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the material from there.
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>> Correct.
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>> Okay.
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>> It's doable. It's just uh
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that's why we haven't uh especially
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where it's really tight between the
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Tenplex and that next you know, that
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little sliver area right there. That's
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pretty steep. Um which there's no
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playground it can be um right there. But
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as we go towards the playground and
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stuff, I just need to get that yeah,
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leveled out and then figure out where my
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slope is down to that next phase. So,
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that's kind of what we've been waiting
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on and we got to get the buildings in.
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>> And I'm not trying to convolute the two.
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I'm just want to make sure that you're
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aware that for CMOs that you've got to
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have that stuff taken care of.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um I did have another thing on this. Do
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we have or do we need
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Jason and John a PI or a culinary
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connection on the north side of Ginger
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Gold Road?
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>> No, we've got
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>> There's no light plant material going in
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over there as far as the trail section.
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>> There are there are
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Yeah, there are some some
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uh
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basically zero scape uh zero scape. I
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never get those two
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the right way. But there are some
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plantings across there. Um but I believe
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we've already got a PI connection
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on to the north side of the road to be
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able to tie on to and serve those.
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>> Yeah, the the one I know about is on
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Ginger Gold Ginger Gold and Center
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Street.
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Clear down there.
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>> That's kind of a long way. So, I'm just
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I'm going to encourage you from
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engineering and public works to look at
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it and if we need a PI connection there,
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let's get a PI connection on the north
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side of the road there so we don't have
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to run 1,000 ft of line to be able to
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water some trees.
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>> Okay.
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>> Yep.
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>> That's that's all I have from what I
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reviewed.
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>> Okay.
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Um
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So, this note is just kind of what we
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talked about before. Um
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just coordination with the Central Utah
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for that
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um for that easement and any
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encroachment into there.
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Um
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And we've already kind of Basically,
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that existing easement will also need to
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be indicated on the plat.
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Uh couple comments on the boundary
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description just to verify. It seems
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like
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there may just be a a swap number or
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something
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on the boundary [snorts] description.
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And then just an update on the
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legislative body. Uh city council's no
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longer the the signers on that. It's the
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planning commission chair that does
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that.
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Uh cover sheet there.
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Then we'll need one on the say the south
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side. There's uh we're missing a PI
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connection down through here.
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Um We already discussed the
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>> And maybe on that note to just check and
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make sure that to add a one on the north side of Ginger Gold as
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well.
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So, this this project is doing the trail
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segment, right? You're doing the trail
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segment, the landscaping,
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>> [clears throat]
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>> trees, whatever that happens to be,
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right? And we just need to make sure
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we've got water there and we don't have
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to go
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three blocks.
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>> Yep.
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>> Do we have street lighting that also
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goes down that, right? That would be
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opposite that could be on that north
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side.
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>> That's correct.
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>> We just probably want to make sure we,
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you know, get that connection close to
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a street light where we can pull power.
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>> Yep.
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>> Okay.
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» Um then just a note here um for the
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storm drain line that goes between units
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79 and 80 uh just on the plat we'll need
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to have a an easement for that storm
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drain line.
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Landscape and we've talked about the grading plan.
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I believe there's any other
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Those are just continuations on there.
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Um
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Then just down here uh we will need to
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get a PI drain installed on the
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irrigation line that will drain into
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manhole of the curbing lot blocks there
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to allow us to drain our system. That's
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just a a 2-in uh
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poly line with a social drain and and saddle.
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And then for construction side of things
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putting in a construction valve at the
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face [cough and clears throat] line um
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cuz I'm sure your contractor is not
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going to want to test
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what line has already been installed. So
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» So John, is that drain for the new PI
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line? There's no PI line there now,
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right? They're going to bring
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and connect from both sides on
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Gingergold, right? So that's the drain
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for Okay.
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>> Yeah, so between 90 West and 260 West um
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there's not a PI line there.
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>> Great.
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» Uh
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cross sections, I believe that was it.
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Yep, that that's it. So any other
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comments, thoughts on the
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on
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Orchards B3?
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If not, I would look for a motion.
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>> John, I'll make a motion to approve
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conditionally that the red lines are met
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uh as we've discussed here and
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identified and at Randy adding his
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addressing back into it.
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>> Okay.
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Motion? Is there a second?
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>> Second.
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>> Seconded by Jason.
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Any comments on the motion?
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Seeing none, we'll go to vote. All in
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favor, please say aye.
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>> Aye.
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>> Any opposed?
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Okay, motion passes. It's approved.
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We'll get these comments over to you,
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John, and we'll work through those. So.
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Okay, the next item on the agenda, um
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again, we do have some folks on Zoom.
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We've got Andy Flamm has joined us on
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Zoom, so I would
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recommend moving Bella Vista, this phase
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of Bella Vista up. If there's any
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concerns, we'll go with that.
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Okay.
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Um
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So, the Bella Vista development is new
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residential development uh located along
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400 East on the west side of 400 East as
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the the
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uh vacant ground between 400 East and
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the Bella Vista, sorry, the Stratton
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Metals development and previous
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development that's along 200 East.
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Um [snorts]
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these are they've got four phases
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um for
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uh review today. Um we did review this
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uh previously and this is a resubmittal
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to address those those comments related
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to this.
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Um again, there's four phases related to
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the overall development.
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Um
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One item that I will uh kind of
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I guess on a uh
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more
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project-wide
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uh
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look at it.
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Um, from our report one of our comments
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that we did give last
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uh, DRC was a comment about the
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extension of 5 6 530 North and
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connecting it all the way over to 400
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East.
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Um,
[17:35]
that comment came they took the comment
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and basically included that road
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construction all within phase three.
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Um, which I believe is something that the city supports on that because
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it it does create some more east-west
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connectivity through there. Gives
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emergency access access out to there
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with multiple connection points.
[17:56]
Um, however, with the way they propose
[17:57]
to do it is that does do a change of the
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phasing plan that we have.
[18:03]
And so, um,
[18:05]
which is a DRC level approval that we
[18:10]
could do. We do have to just inform the
[18:13]
council and planning commission of any
[18:15]
changes that the DRC does approve.
[18:18]
However, with that being said, it it
[18:20]
does need to be included on a as an
[18:22]
actual action item on the the DRC.
[18:26]
And so, that wasn't done.
[18:30]
Um,
[18:30]
but as a as a part of that as we review
[18:33]
some of these, there's potential that we
[18:34]
can approve other phases
[18:37]
to allow that to continue move forward,
[18:40]
but the that change phase three and four
[18:43]
would need to
[18:45]
be um,
[18:46]
brought in as an action item by the DRC.
[18:48]
So, just
[18:49]
>> [snorts]
[18:49]
>> as a kind of note as we work our way
[18:52]
through these these four plats that that is the case and um, what we'd have
[18:57]
to do with that change the phase three
[18:58]
and four.
[19:01]
So, uh, with that
[19:04]
um,
[19:06]
again, the DRC is the overall final
[19:08]
approval for the final application.
[19:10]
So, we can do our motions accordingly
[19:13]
with that.
[19:14]
Uh so, with that introduction, we'll go
[19:16]
around with any comments that Again,
[19:19]
these are four different action items.
[19:21]
If there's specific items on each of the
[19:22]
phase that want to be discussed or
[19:24]
brought up, we're welcome to do that as
[19:26]
we as we discuss this this project. So,
[19:30]
Morgan.
[19:31]
>> Uh we have no no comments on the on any
[19:33]
of the phases.
[19:34]
>> Okay.
[19:36]
Randy.
[19:37]
>> I have submitted to you some redline
[19:39]
changes as far as addressing, but that
[19:42]
will be provided to you and there are
[19:43]
some on each of the plats.
[19:45]
>> Okay.
[19:46]
Sounds good.
[19:48]
Jason.
[19:49]
>> Just just a comment on the on the
[19:52]
phasing. I know we talked about it
[19:53]
yesterday as far as doing phase one and
[19:56]
phase four
[19:57]
so that we could finish 200 East, but I
[20:01]
don't know if that's something that can
[20:02]
be done or something that the contract
[20:04]
we can work with the contractor on.
[20:06]
>> So, it'd be a coordination with with how
[20:10]
they want to develop the project. We can
[20:11]
request and they don't They don't neces
[20:15]
Excuse me. They don't necessarily need
[20:16]
to do it in chronological like 1 2 3 4.
[20:21]
Um
[20:21]
things they do have to that we do have
[20:23]
to keep in mind is circulation, utility
[20:25]
circulation as well as traffic
[20:27]
circulation on how they phase those.
[20:30]
Um
[20:31]
>> Yeah, I I just know 400 East is in
[20:33]
pretty rough shape and we need to get in
[20:35]
there and do something with that. And it
[20:37]
would be good to do that at the same
[20:38]
time they were doing these phases and we
[20:41]
could get a lot of it knocked out if
[20:43]
phase one and phase four were kind of
[20:45]
done at the same time.
[20:46]
>> Yep.
[20:47]
>> But that's not [snorts] really up to us.
[20:48]
That's up to the contractor.
[20:50]
>> Right. And the developer on there. We
[20:52]
have They have included a note that they
[20:54]
do want to discuss that we
[20:56]
do recognize 4th East as a project and
[20:59]
that we're looking at uh working on that
[21:02]
road as well and would like to
[21:03]
coordinate that work to be done on
[21:06]
there.
[21:06]
>> Okay.
[21:07]
>> Um the developers were aware of the
[21:09]
applicants aware of it and we'll work
[21:12]
with the the applicant and the future
[21:15]
builder on this to to help
[21:18]
make sure that's done appropriately and
[21:21]
we can do it right.
[21:22]
>> Okay. So
[21:23]
>> And not have a whole bunch of road cuts
[21:24]
on
[21:25]
>> new road. Yeah, that's I don't want to
[21:26]
comment a new road and then have a whole
[21:28]
bunch of new road cuts in it. Just just
[21:29]
soon do the whole new road at one time.
[21:31]
>> Yep.
[21:32]
>> Okay.
[21:33]
>> So yeah, there's we I have had that
[21:34]
conversation with the applicant uh to
[21:36]
bring that up and and again if
[21:39]
well if it would work that they can do
[21:41]
phase one and four at the same time to minimize that then I think that's
[21:45]
something we can work through with.
[21:47]
>> Okay. That's you know other than some of
[21:49]
the other comments we can go through
[21:51]
that with the engineering comments. So
[21:52]
>> Yep.
[21:53]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[21:54]
>> Thanks Jason.
[21:55]
Mike.
[21:55]
>> Do you do you mind if I comment now or
[21:57]
do you want me to wait on that?
[21:58]
>> Go ahead Andy.
[22:00]
>> I was just going to say if if that's the
[22:02]
case
[22:04]
I think we could probably accommodate
[22:05]
that but it would make our change that
[22:08]
we just changed to phase three having
[22:10]
that road connect through.
[22:12]
We would probably want to uh
[22:14]
>> Go the other
[22:14]
>> do it the way we had it originally with
[22:16]
>> Correct.
[22:17]
>> that road
[22:18]
uh 400 East connecting through the south
[22:20]
side of the subdivision.
[22:22]
>> Yep.
[22:23]
>> So just something to be aware of.
[22:25]
>> Okay.
[22:26]
>> Do you know timing on that Andy? Do you
[22:29]
know what your timing is?
[22:31]
>> I don't. We're working with the buyer
[22:32]
that we'd probably start I know they had
[22:35]
planned on doing phase as one and two
[22:37]
simultaneously this winter.
[22:40]
Um
[22:41]
that I I don't want to speak on their
[22:42]
behalf but that was their plan. I think
[22:44]
they could I could talk to them today
[22:46]
and get an answer for you on maybe doing
[22:48]
one and four at the same time instead.
[22:51]
And I think that probably would
[22:52]
that would be fine.
[22:54]
As long as I haven't looked at the
[22:57]
uh sewer and everything to make sure
[22:59]
that it would would work with our
[23:00]
current design but
[23:02]
if it does I don't think it'd be a
[23:03]
problem.
[23:04]
>> I think the sewer would
[23:07]
may have a little bit impact. But I
[23:10]
think that roadway within phase four
[23:12]
does connect straight up here to phase
[23:16]
one and flows north. It's within
[23:19]
the the eastern side of Sorry, the
[23:21]
western side of that where our sewer
[23:23]
lines uh
[23:25]
kind of jog around a little bit.
[23:33]
Uh phase four
[23:35]
sewer all just heads directly north.
[23:38]
>> Okay, yeah, if that's not an engineering
[23:40]
issue, then I'll talk to him. I don't I
[23:41]
don't think that'll be a problem.
[23:44]
>> Yeah.
[23:45]
So, it just Yeah, just extends down here
[23:47]
to do is that. Again, phasing-wise,
[23:50]
um
[23:51]
the the biggest thing would be
[23:53]
connectivity on on that. So,
[23:57]
um
[23:58]
cuz that would adjust where this roadway
[24:00]
stubs out now versus Correct, yeah.
[24:04]
is where that would kick in. Now, it is
[24:06]
possible that that it doesn't
[24:08]
necessarily need to be included that
[24:10]
roadway
[24:12]
Yeah, dedication of that roadway would
[24:13]
have to work on a little bit there, too.
[24:15]
So.
[24:17]
>> Yeah, um I'll I can let you know later
[24:20]
today. I know that's not conducive to
[24:21]
making a motion today, but um
[24:24]
I think there's some flexibility there
[24:26]
to accommodate that request. So, I'll
[24:28]
just be mindful of that, I guess.
[24:29]
[snorts]
[24:31]
» Okay.
[24:32]
>> Sorry to interrupt. Thank you.
[24:34]
>> No, thanks, Andy. Appreciate it.
[24:37]
Mike.
[24:38]
>> Um
[24:40]
I wasn't able to make it to the meeting
[24:41]
yesterday, but did we decide on fencing
[24:43]
Morgan what that needed to be on the
[24:45]
>> So, they do have a note there for the
[24:48]
construction of a of a fence along 400
[24:50]
East along the back of those those
[24:52]
properties.
[24:53]
>> Okay.
[24:54]
>> So, that all front along 400 East. So,
[24:56]
the double frontage along 4th East.
[24:58]
>> Okay.
[24:59]
And then, also just to like he said, if
[25:01]
they're going to do one and four,
[25:03]
obviously it makes sense not to push
[25:04]
that road through cuz those other homes
[25:07]
wouldn't be in yet, so.
[25:08]
>> Yep.
[25:09]
>> Um but other than that, no. I've got
[25:11]
nothing.
[25:12]
>> Okay.
[25:13]
Norm?
[25:15]
>> Yeah, just a a note on phase one. And I
[25:19]
think And you're probably aware of this,
[25:21]
but we've had I have had some discussion
[25:24]
with the school district recently about
[25:26]
that
[25:27]
parcel number 29042
[25:30]
0020, which is just kind of the
[25:32]
connection that we need for Royal Land
[25:34]
Drive to 400 East. They're working on
[25:36]
that right now and and uh
[25:39]
hopefully we can get that they can get
[25:41]
that done and we can build that road all
[25:42]
the way through there. That would be
[25:43]
really really good.
[25:45]
>> [snorts]
[25:47]
>> Yeah, that would be great. I've been
[25:47]
helping facilitate that with our dream,
[25:50]
the school district, the appraisers. Um
[25:53]
so, if that changes, we would just not
[25:55]
need to abandon the turnaround design
[25:57]
and punch that road through.
[25:58]
>> Yeah, that would be great. We we'd
[25:59]
obviously need design on that and then
[26:02]
an adjustment to the plat, but I think
[26:04]
that's something we could obviously very
[26:06]
well accommodate to be able to get that
[26:07]
road through there.
[26:10]
>> All right, sounds good.
[26:14]
» Okay.
[26:15]
Um
[26:18]
let's see. There's really not a whole
[26:19]
lot of additional comments, mostly just
[26:22]
on these
[26:23]
on the the phases.
[26:25]
Um some of addressing and and where uh
[26:29]
where it would be anticipated driveways
[26:31]
would be. So, this is 770
[26:35]
uh north, which is basically between
[26:38]
this one, Royal Land Drive. There'll be
[26:41]
a few
[26:43]
kind of major roadways I think that'll
[26:44]
be heading east-west and connecting uh
[26:47]
with this with this with these phases
[26:50]
going in, especially phase one.
[26:52]
Um there's really only one other
[26:55]
road on the south end at 530 south, 530
[26:58]
north that we'd be dealing with.
[27:01]
But um to help it would be
[27:04]
to help traffic flow through there and
[27:06]
not have people backing out on the road.
[27:08]
Um
[27:09]
and to I guess minimize that as much as
[27:11]
we can, some of these corner lots would
[27:13]
be requested those would just front on
[27:15]
to the side streets versus on the 770.
[27:19]
Um we do have addressing on there, but
[27:21]
um
[27:22]
so we can that would need to be adjusted
[27:23]
and done on there for for those.
[27:26]
As it goes out uh to help traffic flow.
[27:31]
Um I believe that was
[27:36]
those were the main comments we had.
[27:39]
Those that comment kind of again holds
[27:41]
true for
[27:42]
um some of these lots down here further to the south.
[27:47]
>> John,
[27:49]
is this showing the existing
[27:53]
» It does, yeah.
[27:56]
>> It looked like it
[27:58]
they're asking for a new line.
[28:01]
>> Yeah, cuz this uh that's one.
[28:04]
That's correct. Yes, thank you for that.
[28:06]
So this line here was installed
[28:09]
oh
[28:11]
when did we build in Stratton Meadows or
[28:13]
Stratton Acres?
[28:14]
>> Oh man.
[28:15]
>> Oh, four years ago in that two two or
[28:17]
three years ago.
[28:18]
Um that line was installed from 200 east
[28:21]
all the way down and there's a fire line
[28:23]
that does extend up here to the the
[28:25]
school district's animal lab. So that is
[28:27]
an existing pipeline that would not need
[28:30]
to be installed uh with this development.
[28:37]
» Thanks, Keith.
[28:41]
» Yeah, I believe
[28:43]
>> John, what what are those what's that
[28:44]
comment right there? Don't we have some
[28:45]
comments on the Yeah, the storm tech
[28:47]
stuff?
[28:48]
>> So, this is
[28:50]
This comment's in specific to the
[28:53]
protection of
[28:55]
the proposed storm drain lines that or
[28:57]
storm drain infiltration galleries,
[29:00]
which are located throughout the
[29:01]
development. Um
[29:04]
one of the comments that was given
[29:05]
previously was how are these
[29:08]
infiltration galleries going to be
[29:10]
protected
[29:11]
uh after installation and during
[29:13]
construction of the homes um
[29:16]
and afterwards. Um they did provide a
[29:19]
detail
[29:22]
on that. It was right here.
[29:25]
Um basically the
[29:27]
thought was to burm up over the top of
[29:29]
those
[29:30]
um prior to and that's
[29:33]
and this would be um
[29:36]
either with the
[29:39]
um after the before the side sidewalk
[29:42]
and road base were installed over that
[29:44]
to help protect it. Um
[29:48]
the There are some that would protect
[29:50]
it, prevent people from driving over it,
[29:52]
but when you go to start building
[29:55]
homes and sidewalks are in, etc., that's
[29:58]
when we've seen those our tanks be
[30:00]
damaged during that construction period.
[30:03]
And so, I guess the request on here is
[30:06]
just to you know, kind of flesh that
[30:08]
out, provide more of a narrative on the
[30:10]
proposed protection of those our tanks.
[30:14]
Um
[30:15]
one recommendation is that there could
[30:17]
be a different uh infiltration system be
[30:21]
done versus an our tank.
[30:23]
Um
[30:24]
that would
[30:26]
more resist a a load or a concrete truck
[30:29]
from collapsing those those infiltration
[30:32]
galleries.
[30:33]
>> Yeah, Andy, we've had
[30:36]
>> a lot of people that have designed with
[30:37]
these our tanks and at the end of the
[30:39]
day, the contractors
[30:41]
can't protect them, they get broken,
[30:43]
etc. and they move to other methods.
[30:45]
That's what John's talking about. We
[30:47]
would encourage you to look at maybe a
[30:48]
StormTech that are already structural
[30:50]
and you don't have to build the
[30:51]
structure up around the tanks and that
[30:53]
kind of stuff.
[30:54]
Due to cost and constructability and
[30:56]
longevity, those ART tanks are just not
[30:58]
working out well for the city or for the
[31:01]
contractors.
[31:03]
>> Yeah, we'll uh look at some alternatives
[31:05]
and provide some.
[31:07]
>> As as a note, that uh while an ART tank
[31:10]
may be shown on your plans and such, it
[31:13]
is possible to request um
[31:16]
you know, if you do land on a different
[31:19]
system to do that, um
[31:21]
you can coordinate with engineering on
[31:23]
that to modify or uh adjust those.
[31:27]
>> Okay.
[31:28]
>> After uh
[31:28]
>> And you prefer StormTech uh StormTech,
[31:30]
you said?
[31:30]
>> We have seen those those have been
[31:32]
successful in the past for us
[31:35]
um on those.
[31:35]
>> Okay.
[31:37]
>> Didn't they use those in the They used
[31:39]
that in the first
[31:40]
development, right? Over there? Yes.
[31:43]
The other phases within Stratton Meadows
[31:44]
and Stratton Acres, I think.
[31:46]
>> Again, with a change in the middle of
[31:48]
the process because they were just
[31:50]
struggling with the ART tanks and the
[31:51]
cost and the constructability and stuff.
[31:54]
So, yeah, that's
[31:55]
kind of why we're leading towards that.
[31:57]
>> Yep.
[31:58]
Uh okay. Yeah, that's fine.
[32:01]
» Okay, I believe that was I think with
[32:05]
phase one. Phase two, there weren't any
[32:08]
additional comments.
[32:11]
Um
[32:15]
I'll try to run through these real
[32:16]
quick.
[32:19]
Don't believe there's any additional
[32:20]
comments on phase two.
[32:26]
Phase three.
[32:40]
» I don't believe there's any additional
[32:41]
comments there either.
[32:47]
Then phase four
[32:50]
uh again just the comment about
[32:52]
addressing there and on those those two.
[32:55]
So
[32:56]
>> So John, I have a question on the the I
[32:58]
just saw you run across the sewer
[33:01]
easements that are going to be
[33:02]
eliminated, but also
[33:05]
doesn't doesn't if phase one and four or
[33:07]
at least phase four if that's
[33:10]
constructed first, don't they need
[33:11]
offsite sewer to be able to handle?
[33:13]
>> Again, phase phase three is where
[33:18]
those that realignment of that pipeline
[33:21]
of the sewer line, that's when that kicks in to be done.
[33:25]
>> But but phase four standing on its own,
[33:27]
there's no connectivity to utilities or
[33:29]
sewer or anything of that nature.
[33:31]
>> So within to phase one, there would be
[33:34]
>> If phase one is constructed before phase
[33:36]
four, yes.
[33:37]
>> That's correct.
[33:38]
>> But if it's not, then you have
[33:40]
So just need to be mindful of that Andy
[33:42]
as well to make sure that that
[33:44]
as the phasing goes along, it doesn't
[33:47]
necessarily have to phase one, two,
[33:48]
three, and four, but if you don't, then
[33:50]
there's other ramifications that
[33:52]
potentially could be there that might be
[33:54]
an issue.
[33:55]
>> Yes.
[33:56]
>> Yeah. Yeah, understood.
[34:01]
» Okay.
[34:03]
Um
[34:04]
I believe that's it.
[34:05]
>> Is there any other comments, thoughts
[34:08]
on these phases?
[34:15]
If not, I would would look for a motion.
[34:19]
>> Do we need motion for each one
[34:21]
separately?
[34:22]
>> We would need a motion for each one
[34:23]
separately, yes.
[34:26]
>> Can you go back to the agenda, John?
[34:28]
Please.
[34:31]
So the the the three and four because of
[34:34]
the potential change and the unknown
[34:35]
nature of where we're going to do that
[34:37]
road and the phasing and all that kind
[34:38]
of stuff,
[34:40]
how does that that if if if we change
[34:43]
the road either direction where 530
[34:45]
north or whatever it is gets punched
[34:47]
through all the way from 4th East to 200
[34:49]
East or whether whether it's four or
[34:52]
three,
[34:53]
that that necessitates a minor change
[34:55]
that would have to come back to the DRC,
[34:57]
correct? On these three and four.
[34:59]
>> For three and four. One and two, there's
[35:00]
no changes on the approved phasing plan
[35:03]
uh
[35:04]
from what's been approved. And so, phase
[35:07]
one and two
[35:08]
could be but could be approved or um
[35:11]
receive final approval. Phase three and
[35:13]
four because of that unknown there would
[35:15]
probably need to be tabled. But, we
[35:17]
could do one and two without any could
[35:19]
>> To then come back for that minor change.
[35:21]
>> That's correct.
[35:22]
>> For whichever minor change it is, right?
[35:24]
One way or the other.
[35:25]
>> Well, if they don't punch the road
[35:27]
through, then there wouldn't be any need
[35:29]
to change that to have that be a DRC
[35:32]
action item for the city.
[35:33]
>> really there's really two aspects to
[35:35]
this three and four. One is if three is
[35:37]
done the way that it's currently
[35:39]
submitted, it would need a minor change
[35:41]
and it would provide connectivity for
[35:43]
the city, for the residents to get all
[35:45]
the way through from 200 to to 400 East.
[35:48]
>> Yes, and also during construction as
[35:50]
well.
[35:50]
>> But, phase four and phase one are
[35:52]
beneficial to be able to pave and and
[35:55]
have us
[35:56]
be able to have a completed road out on
[35:57]
400 East. So, there's a there's a given
[36:00]
take there. So, um
[36:02]
maybe [snorts] maybe we as staff need to
[36:03]
figure out a a
[36:05]
recommended path
[36:07]
to to try and figure that out and and
[36:10]
give that back to Andy and his team to
[36:12]
try and
[36:13]
uh I I again, I in my estimation just
[36:17]
the the short time that I've had to
[36:18]
think about it, I think that that's the
[36:20]
530 north would be better to punch that
[36:22]
through and then when phase four comes
[36:24]
along, we deal with 400 East.
[36:27]
But, that would be my my estimation. It
[36:29]
would be nice to have both, but you're
[36:31]
not going to get both at the same time,
[36:33]
I don't think.
[36:34]
>> Correct.
[36:35]
>> So I make a motion to conditionally
[36:37]
approve plat A, sorry, Apple Hollow,
[36:40]
sorry, Bella Vista
[36:42]
phase one final
[36:44]
with conditions that redlines are
[36:46]
addressed.
[36:47]
>> Okay.
[36:48]
Got a motion. Is there a second?
[36:49]
>> Second.
[36:50]
by Randy.
[36:52]
Any discussion?
[36:55]
All in favor, please say I.
[36:56]
>> I.
[36:57]
>> Any opposed? Okay, motion passes.
[36:59]
>> So So Andy, I want to make sure that
[37:01]
you're clear on that. Conditional means
[37:03]
that you got to meet the conditions.
[37:04]
It's not finally approved. You got to
[37:06]
meet the conditions, but we feel like
[37:08]
it's
[37:08]
>> Yeah, I get it. We got to address all
[37:09]
the redlines, resubmit.
[37:10]
>> It's close, but you're not there yet. So
[37:12]
I make it the same motion on Bella Vista
[37:14]
phase two
[37:16]
for final approval conditional with
[37:18]
redlines being addressed.
[37:19]
>> Okay.
[37:20]
Is there a second?
[37:22]
>> Second.
[37:23]
by Randy.
[37:25]
Any discussion?
[37:27]
All in favor, please say I.
[37:29]
>> I.
[37:30]
>> Motion passes.
[37:32]
>> Make a motion to table Bella Vista phase
[37:34]
three final to come back for that minor
[37:37]
change.
[37:38]
>> Okay.
[37:39]
Is there a second?
[37:40]
>> Second.
[37:40]
by Randy.
[37:42]
All in favor,
[37:43]
please say I.
[37:44]
>> I.
[37:45]
>> Any opposed?
[37:47]
Okay.
[37:48]
>> Same motion for Bella Vista phase four.
[37:51]
>> Okay.
[37:51]
>> Second.
[37:52]
by Randy.
[37:54]
All in favor, please say I.
[37:56]
>> I.
[37:57]
>> Any opposed?
[37:58]
Okay, motion passes.
[38:00]
So
[38:01]
We'll get these Andy and I'll I'll reach
[38:03]
out to Andy and we can talk through
[38:05]
that. So
[38:06]
>> Yeah, sounds good. Thank you, everyone.
[38:08]
>> Thank you.
[38:11]
Okay, the last item on the agenda is a
[38:15]
site plan review of proposed [snorts]
[38:19]
uh
[38:20]
retail site. This is located on Main
[38:24]
Street on the northeast corner of Main
[38:27]
Street and 300 West.
[38:29]
Um
[38:31]
If you recall, there was an old home, a
[38:34]
couple of homes that had been
[38:35]
constructed on this this parcel
[38:38]
that have been demolished. Um they did
[38:41]
receive a demolition permit for for that
[38:44]
work and it was completed accordance
[38:46]
with with city code.
[38:49]
Um so with that, they are proposing a
[38:52]
basically an overall six-unit commercial
[38:55]
site with five individual
[38:59]
kind of
[39:00]
retail sites on retail
[39:04]
units on the north side of the
[39:06]
development with the smaller proposed
[39:08]
building on the the southern half of the lot.
[39:13]
Um
[39:14]
This again, this is a site plan
[39:16]
application. It is reviewed and DRC is
[39:19]
the final approval body for this
[39:22]
application.
[39:23]
So with that, we'll go around the DRC
[39:25]
[snorts] with any thoughts or comments.
[39:27]
>> Start with Morgan.
[39:28]
>> Great, thank you, Chair.
[39:29]
Um so
[39:31]
starting really with kind of the cover
[39:33]
sheet, they indicate that 35 spaces are
[39:36]
provided. We've counted several times,
[39:38]
we keep coming to 33, so they'll need to
[39:40]
change that now. Um and then they
[39:44]
indicate that only 32 are required. Um
[39:49]
33 are required unless they provide us a
[39:51]
table that breaks down the square
[39:53]
footage of the buildings a little bit
[39:54]
more in the past. Um we have deducted
[39:57]
bathroom
[39:58]
>> Morgan, can you speak in the microphone
[39:59]
right here?
[40:00]
>> Yeah, sure.
[40:01]
Um so it in a
[40:03]
We'll need a breakdown of the square
[40:05]
footage if they want it to go for some
[40:06]
sort of
[40:08]
reduction in the square footage that's a
[40:10]
part of that calculation, but right now
[40:12]
33 spaces are are required.
[40:16]
>> 33 or 35?
[40:17]
>> Um 33 spaces are required.
[40:19]
>> Okay. They listed 35 are provided.
[40:23]
>> Oh, got you. Okay.
[40:24]
>> 33 are provided. So, they're right at
[40:26]
the number.
[40:27]
>> Understood.
[40:28]
>> Yep.
[40:29]
Um the street side setback needs to be
[40:32]
10 ft. They're very close. So, most
[40:34]
likely they'd have to shrink the
[40:35]
building a little bit, but they would
[40:37]
need to
[40:37]
uh meet the minimum 10 ft.
[40:40]
Um uh queuing for the drive-throughs is
[40:45]
80 ft and that's measured from the
[40:46]
drive-through window to the beginning of
[40:49]
the queuing lane.
[40:51]
Um so, those do look like they're short.
[40:53]
They'll need to provide that dimension
[40:56]
from the drive-through window to the
[40:57]
beginning of the queuing lane to to show
[40:59]
that they meet the full 80 ft. And then
[41:02]
something of note um
[41:05]
it looks like most likely they're going
[41:06]
to have to adjust their site
[41:09]
um
[41:09]
at some level. When they if they do um
[41:14]
the queuing like so the stacking area of
[41:16]
the drive-through cannot be between the
[41:19]
building and the front property line.
[41:21]
And so, they they don't show that now.
[41:23]
They just show the exiting portion of
[41:25]
the lane. They don't show the queuing
[41:26]
portion of the lane. But when they do um
[41:29]
make those modifications just for the applicant is aware do not put the
[41:33]
queuing um
[41:35]
or the you know, the stacking
[41:37]
portion of the lane in the front
[41:39]
setback. That's that's essentially what
[41:40]
it's calling out.
[41:42]
Um I believe Oh, um on the cover sheet
[41:45]
as well, there are several mentions of
[41:47]
Orem that'll need to be changed to
[41:50]
Santaquin.
[41:52]
>> Thank you.
[41:52]
>> Yep.
[41:53]
>> You.
[41:54]
>> So, Morgan, I have a question on the
[41:55]
parking.
[41:56]
Um building use
[41:58]
tenant use could determine or could
[42:01]
require more parking depending on what
[42:03]
they put in there, the square footage,
[42:05]
the use, that kind of thing. So, I just
[42:06]
want to caution the applicant to make
[42:08]
sure that they have they don't build too
[42:10]
much building and don't have enough
[42:11]
parking for X Y Z use that they may have
[42:14]
tried to put in there at some point in
[42:15]
the future. So
[42:16]
>> Yeah, that that's a great point.
[42:18]
>> That that has been something that we've
[42:19]
dealt with in Santaquin before where
[42:21]
they're really tight on the parking and
[42:22]
then all of a sudden they don't have
[42:23]
enough because they want to bring in a
[42:25]
use that requires more parking. So I
[42:27]
would just caution on that.
[42:28]
>> That's a great point. We're using right
[42:29]
now just so that the applicant knows
[42:30]
that just the general retail only use
[42:32]
category. So if they put office or
[42:34]
medical in in one of those then that could change the
[42:38]
that the parking requirement.
[42:40]
>> But it sounds like this parking's going
[42:41]
to have to be rearranged anyway to meet
[42:43]
those stacking requirements for the
[42:46]
drive-throughs, correct?
[42:47]
>> Yeah, most likely. They they'd have to
[42:49]
do some modifications to the site.
[42:54]
» Okay.
[42:55]
Randy?
[42:56]
>> Uh nothing at this point.
[42:57]
>> Okay.
[42:58]
Jason?
[43:00]
>> I didn't see a PI meter.
[43:02]
on the plans and
[43:04]
there is one that's actually on 300
[43:06]
West. I That's just a general location.
[43:09]
We can provide that location to them. We
[43:11]
should have a shot on this.
[43:12]
>> Yep.
[43:13]
>> But it is it is there. That's and it's a
[43:15]
1-in service. So
[43:17]
>> More than adequate to serve the
[43:19]
landscaping on the site.
[43:21]
>> Yep. And
[43:22]
the other thing, I think there's a
[43:24]
discussion about the master, you know,
[43:26]
maybe changing from a
[43:29]
uh individual meters to a master meter.
[43:31]
I don't know if we can do that in a in a
[43:35]
commercial space.
[43:37]
>> And say I think there's a couple options
[43:39]
we could do. One master meter that
[43:41]
probably be ideal. But there isn't
[43:43]
necessarily commercial wise within our
[43:45]
standards or code that requires that
[43:47]
commercial site
[43:49]
have a master meter. Uh for residential,
[43:53]
uh for anything over three units or more does require a
[43:57]
master meter. But commercial wise, we
[44:00]
don't have that requirement.
[44:02]
However, with that said, I believe
[44:04]
there's a a a more economical pathways
[44:07]
forward for how they would stub uh
[44:10]
into this, you know,
[44:11]
single 6-in line coming off of the the
[44:14]
main and stubbing it in, and then
[44:16]
putting a manifold with different meters
[44:18]
off of that, um or putting a master
[44:21]
meter in, etc. There's a couple
[44:23]
different options that we can work with
[44:25]
the applicant on to address that to make
[44:27]
it so we don't have a string of
[44:30]
1-in meters all spaced a foot apart on
[44:33]
it off of the
[44:35]
>> [clears throat]
[44:35]
>> a main line. Cuz there are some
[44:37]
uh concerns by tapping into the main
[44:39]
line that close to each other on there.
[44:43]
>> And it's just a lot of 1-in lines
[44:45]
running across the road, and you could
[44:46]
do it with with one.
[44:48]
>> And uh
[44:49]
longevity-wise for the city, and also I
[44:52]
believe for the site it'd be beneficial
[44:54]
to do that. And a lot less excavation
[44:57]
work to to put a single line in versus
[45:00]
uh
[45:01]
a whole bunch more.
[45:02]
>> Yeah, one saddle instead of five.
[45:04]
There's a Yeah.
[45:05]
>> Yeah.
[45:07]
>> And then, yeah, that's that's about all
[45:09]
my comments.
[45:10]
>> Okay.
[45:11]
>> Mike?
[45:13]
>> Just a couple of uh
[45:14]
just a reminder that road coming on 300
[45:17]
West is one-way. It would be nice to
[45:18]
have a right-turn-only sign exiting that
[45:21]
north
[45:23]
exit.
[45:24]
>> Mhm.
[45:25]
>> So that we don't have a whole bunch of
[45:27]
traffic trying to come southbound on 300
[45:30]
West.
[45:31]
Um also on the landscape plan it does
[45:34]
show there's a pretty large tree right
[45:36]
there close to that exit, which is going
[45:38]
to mess with the site uh exiting that.
[45:42]
This
[45:43]
the site line.
[45:46]
So I would like to see that tree not be
[45:48]
there.
[45:50]
>> And the And the one on Main Street?
[45:53]
>> There Yeah, there's a few that are in
[45:55]
the site triangle
[45:56]
>> kind of a little bit farther away, so I
[45:57]
don't I would like to see a site
[45:59]
triangle on both those entrances and
[46:00]
exits. so
[46:03]
>> Yes.
[46:04]
I'm trying to see where that went.
[46:09]
site lighting
[46:12]
There it is.
[46:14]
That's irrigation.
[46:21]
Yes, but there were a few trees that
[46:22]
were located
[46:26]
Oh, right there.
[46:28]
Yeah, so there's this tree here, this
[46:30]
one here,
[46:31]
um and down on this corner.
[46:35]
>> I don't know that I worry as much about
[46:37]
the one down on 3rd West on that round
[46:39]
cuz it is a one-way street, so nobody
[46:41]
should be turning left out of there.
[46:44]
>> Mhm.
[46:44]
>> In theory. They do, but in theory they
[46:46]
shouldn't be.
[46:47]
Self-correcting, I guess.
[46:52]
» So, on that they are going to be uh this
[46:55]
roadway
[46:57]
uh with the they are going to line up
[46:58]
with the existing curb, gutter, and
[47:00]
sidewalk further to the north that were
[47:03]
uh installed with Evergreen Townhomes
[47:06]
development. So, this roadway will be
[47:08]
wider than it is currently because they
[47:10]
will tie into that and and improve the
[47:12]
whole frontage along that along 300
[47:15]
West.
[47:16]
So, it does extend the width of that
[47:18]
road.
[47:18]
>> But, it still will only be one-way,
[47:20]
correct? We're not changing that.
[47:21]
>> that is the current
[47:22]
>> as I know, anyway.
[47:23]
>> That's I say that's a higher discussion
[47:25]
what the DRC has at this point. So,
[47:27]
>> That's what I'm saying. If it is going
[47:29]
to stay one-way, I would like to see a
[47:30]
right turn sign put in cuz as people
[47:32]
come to shop or whatever, this is going
[47:34]
to be
[47:35]
I don't really want them exiting going
[47:36]
the wrong way.
[47:37]
>> We would need to do something similar to
[47:39]
what the townhomes that are across the
[47:40]
street where we'd have to install a sign
[47:42]
that indicates right turn only.
[47:44]
>> Yes.
[47:45]
>> And
[47:46]
left Yeah.
[47:47]
>> And for right turn
[47:48]
>> left and right turn only signs, make
[47:50]
sure you get it handed the right way,
[47:51]
so.
[47:52]
>> But, in the future if we widen this
[47:54]
road, could we move the one-way down to
[47:57]
>> That is a potential.
[47:58]
>> 100 North.
[47:58]
>> That would be a discussion that would
[47:59]
need to be held with the city council.
[48:01]
>> Okay.
[48:01]
>> On that.
[48:02]
>> I mean
[48:03]
>> [clears throat]
[48:05]
>> Yeah.
[48:06]
There's a lot of There's a lot of people
[48:08]
live right there, so
[48:09]
>> Yes, there is.
[48:12]
» Okay. Anything else, Mike?
[48:14]
>> No, thank you.
[48:15]
>> Okay.
[48:16]
Norm?
[48:17]
>> Just what I've already talked about with
[48:20]
not building too much building and not
[48:21]
having a parking, but also I would also
[48:23]
recommend that they might want to look
[48:25]
at just bringing a fire line over a 6-in
[48:27]
or an 8-in from 300 West to service,
[48:30]
like we've talked about with one master
[48:32]
meter, they break down a manifold after
[48:34]
a connection to a main line, and that
[48:36]
way if they ever do decide to put
[48:38]
something in there as far as a
[48:40]
you know, some type of a of a
[48:44]
facility that needs to have sprinklers,
[48:46]
then they have a line already in there.
[48:47]
We don't have to go dig up the road. So,
[48:49]
that might be something to consider as
[48:51]
part of that discussion with the water
[48:54]
service to the buildings. I know right
[48:56]
now they're saying it's not going to be
[48:58]
required, and that's fine as long as it
[49:00]
stays retail, but if they get to some
[49:02]
you know, use again that hasn't been
[49:04]
identified that they want to put in
[49:05]
there and they need a fire line, then
[49:07]
they're going to go cut up the road, so
[49:09]
>> Correct.
[49:09]
>> I think it'd be a beneficial to have
[49:11]
that be part of our discussion.
[49:13]
>> Yes.
[49:13]
>> And then just you know, I still There's
[49:16]
still a lot of work to be done with
[49:17]
this, but I think it's it's looking
[49:19]
good, so
[49:22]
» Okay.
[49:23]
Um
[49:24]
I'll just kind of see if I can um
[49:27]
say Morgan's already covered that, the
[49:28]
parking related to those.
[49:31]
Um
[49:33]
>> [clears throat]
[49:34]
>> One other item that needs to be kind of
[49:37]
discussed and gone through is that
[49:40]
coordination will be needed with UDOT
[49:42]
for the existing driver approaches that are currently to the site. There's
[49:47]
two of them that extend onto
[49:51]
uh old parcel
[49:53]
um
[49:54]
from Main Street.
[49:55]
Um because it's my understanding that
[49:58]
due to the change of use for the site,
[50:01]
um UDOT is going to require
[50:04]
uh adjustments to access on here. And so
[50:07]
they do need to coordinate with UDOT on
[50:09]
those drive approaches to to be in
[50:11]
conformance with UDOT's requirements.
[50:16]
Um so I think we've already covered most
[50:19]
of those comments there. One thing that
[50:22]
I will point out that hasn't necessarily
[50:23]
been discussed is the the access
[50:27]
width um as currently shown is 24 ft
[50:30]
wide.
[50:31]
Fire code does require those to be 26
[50:34]
uh for this.
[50:36]
Um and that is specifically for the
[50:39]
eastern road as you get north of the the
[50:42]
proposed building and the northern
[50:44]
access that goes out to 300 West. Uh
[50:47]
those do need to be 26-ft wide in in
[50:50]
width.
[50:56]
Uh I've talked queuing. I've talked
[50:59]
about that one.
[51:02]
Going the wrong way.
[51:03]
Um
[51:06]
The other item is um is location of the
[51:10]
sewer laterals. There does need to be a
[51:12]
maintain a minimum of 10-ft separation.
[51:14]
That's horizontal separation between the
[51:17]
sewer lateral and the water lines.
[51:25]
Again, that's these measurements here
[51:27]
are just to show the the designed width
[51:30]
of the of the new asphalt. That's from
[51:33]
lip of lip of gutter lip of gutter. So
[51:35]
it does widen
[51:37]
uh that roadway considerably as you go
[51:39]
down through here.
[51:41]
There are some additional comments on
[51:43]
the storm drain report that need to be
[51:44]
addressed as well and those will be
[51:45]
provided with these red lines.
[51:51]
I believe that
[51:54]
Oh, there's the comments on the trees.
[51:57]
Finally found it.
[52:01]
And we've already got that, the table
[52:03]
for the live plant materials.
[52:07]
I believe that's it.
[52:08]
>> And then John, I did This is Morgan.
[52:12]
I didn't mention in my parking comments
[52:14]
the length of the stalls in the center
[52:17]
of the site, so the ones that aren't
[52:18]
overlapping landscaping are required to
[52:22]
maintain a minimum length of 20 ft.
[52:24]
They're showing at 18 ft. So if they
[52:26]
overlap landscaping like the boundary
[52:27]
ones, then they can go to 18 ft.
[52:31]
So that that would add another 4 ft
[52:33]
overall for the center stalls.
[52:35]
>> [snorts]
[52:35]
>> So yeah, so that's these ones along the building here. That's a 10-ft
[52:39]
separation from the building to the
[52:41]
parking stall and as well up here.
[52:44]
There's enough landscaping that this
[52:46]
these one the southern parking stalls
[52:50]
and the northern parking stalls can
[52:51]
remain as they are. However, there is
[52:54]
still 4 ft additional
[52:57]
uh depth that needs to be provided for
[52:58]
these parking stalls in the middle.
[53:01]
>> And John, did you talk about the 26
[53:03]
versus 24 ft?
[53:05]
>> I did, yes.
[53:05]
>> With Okay. Is that face-to-face on the
[53:08]
curbs?
[53:09]
>> It would be face-to-face on the curbs.
[53:12]
Um one other another item on there is
[53:15]
just for the proposal or the shown cross
[53:17]
connection.
[53:19]
Uh an agreement would be needed between
[53:21]
the two properties to permit that allow
[53:25]
for that uh connection. It does improve
[53:28]
circulation quite a bit. It would also
[53:30]
allow a um a Main Street
[53:35]
access for the new site to be able to
[53:38]
access on the Main Street. Granted, it
[53:40]
is further to the east, but
[53:42]
um
[53:43]
so there are benefits to be able to do
[53:44]
that,
[53:45]
but it would require that cross
[53:47]
connection agreement.
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Okay, any other comments or thoughts?
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>> I have a question.
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>> Sure.
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>> Uh the radius on Main Street
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that we're going to tie into
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it's narrower there than it's going to
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tie into the north. Would that affect
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your two-way
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traffic?
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>> With 45 ft of asphalt, uh it wouldn't.
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>> Well, there is 45
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>> There's 45 of the throat, yeah.
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>> is not on the property.
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Is that
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» Is that not sure the
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We say it's not on the property line?
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>> I don't know what you're meaning by
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that. The dark line is the property
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line.
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>> Correct, yes.
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>> So, on that radius,
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>> So, they would be tying into the
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existing that's there. And that's a
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40-ft wide throat.
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>> Yeah, John, the the the Main Street
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project took us around the PC or PT on
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that curve, right? So, it's it's got its
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starting point already, and they would
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not be redoing the curve
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for what we already do with Main Street.
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It would just go straight between the
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two, and if I remember correctly,
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hopefully we got it and
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right.
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>> [cough]
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[clears throat]
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>> Yes. So, it does it does as you do go
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from south to north, it does widen a
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little bit, but that's because again,
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this has been installed uh that was
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installed with the Main Street widening.
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That's correct, yes.
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but yes, we did do that. It is the
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40-ft wide through there.
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Thank you.
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Okay, any other thoughts or comments?
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Seeing none, I say look for a motion on
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the on the site plan application.
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>> There's still a lot to be done here, so
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I would make a motion to table them.
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>> Okay.
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Motion to table.
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>> I'll second.
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>> Second by Mike.
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Any discussion on the motion?
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All in favor, please say I.
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>> I.
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>> Any opposed?
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Okay. The most The application is
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tabled. [clears throat] So.
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Okay.
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Um the next item on the agenda is the
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meeting minutes from the August 11th DRC
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meeting.
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Sorry. Any comments on there? Look for a
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motion.
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» I motion to approve the August 11th,
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2026
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meeting minutes.
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>> I'll second it.
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>> Second by Jason.
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All in favor, please say I.
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>> I.
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>> Any opposed?
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Okay.
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Um those minutes are approved. And if
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there's not anything else needs to be
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brought for the DRC, I'll look for a
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motion to adjourn.
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>> So moved.
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>> Okay. We are adjourned at 10: