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[0:18] all right so we are on YouTube live but we are

[0:22] recording okay well welcome everybody Min are delay we're all good we're not

[0:29] perfect but okay so we're going to charge ahead uh I'd like to call the

[0:33] meeting to order and welcome everybody as is our custom uh and for Carol's

[0:38] benefit who is at home uh well not at home is in

[0:43] Oakville uh she has uh has called in with us here can we go around the table

[0:48] and Diana can we start with you Diana ter tuck Lisa vellan Sandra

[0:57] hollingworth Don McConnell Dian

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[1:09] [Music] S and Carol can you hear us

[1:15] okay I can hear you but it sounds a little bit

[1:20] tiny okay I think it's the sides of the room

[1:26] okay well ch we're just I not

[1:32] cons I I'm not considered Carol Magnum Committee Member anymore I'm considered

[1:39] Carol magnan and Osmond committee

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[1:49] to the meeting that's great we're looking

[1:52] forward to meeting you Osman in person Carol if you do need somebody to repeat

[1:57] something uh just speak up we are in a very large room

[2:01] today um okay and uh given that uh has everyone had a

[2:09] chance to look at the minutes from our last

[2:15] meeting if so can we have a mover and a seconder to approve

[2:20] those Derek moved by Derek seconded by Diana all in

[2:27] favor thank you uh and as is our uh as is our requirement we do have to ask if

[2:35] anyone has a declaration of a conflict of interest you only have a a conflict

[2:40] of interest if you have a pecuniary interest or benefit to be gained by some

[2:47] decision the committee will make dur today you are a member of your immediate

[2:52] family and I suspect we have none so we're going to move right ahead onto new

[2:58] business um than can I turn this part of the meeting over to you sure um there's

[3:04] a lot of things going on at the accessibility office and um this was one

[3:10] that happened through the course of the summer um enabling accessibility fund I

[3:15] probably should have reported on that at the last meeting but it slipped my

[3:20] mind um and it's for the manso park updates uh originally the application

[3:27] was B I think it's $120,000 was the max funding for that and um we

[3:35] had hoped we would have uh enough means to be able to build an addition for the

[3:43] Manzo Park so that we could have a fully Universal

[3:48] washroom uh adult change table but um it just wasn't possible given the time

[3:55] frame there needs to be some engineering work done so we went to Plan B given the

[4:01] time frames and plan B was uh to do some accessibility upgrades with what's

[4:08] already there so the Manzo Park and and splash pad uh and pool area what was

[4:16] applied for is um a ramp into the pool because currently it isn't accessible to

[4:24] anyone with Mobility disability so it would be by means of a ramp um uh

[4:30] widening the pool deck around the pool because um it is fairly narrow two

[4:38] people can pass each other but there might not be enough space for someone in

[4:42] a Mobility device and or a person walking so we needed a wider pool deck

[4:49] um it would also include uh updated paved Pathways

[4:56] there's quite a few paved Pathways in that Park that are in very good shape

[5:02] but there are a couple that are in poor shape they've got some some bumps and

[5:06] some poles through them as well there's um there is a a tennis court on site and

[5:15] a very old rundown botchy Court um The Botch Court will be updated and will be

[5:24] fully accessible so should anyone want to play bot that is that has a Mobility

[5:30] device they can also participate uh there will be Paths of

[5:34] travel to the bot Port as well as to the tennis

[5:39] courts um there will be a new paved Pathway to the playground and there will

[5:46] be some uh a very small but accessible playground with full rubber surfacing uh

[5:53] underneath that Park as well it's a kind of a small perk I think there's swings

[5:58] and uh a small kind of universal kind of climbing thing um so there will be some

[6:06] updated Park equipment plus some some good Paths of

[6:10] travel um so that is the application that was done this summer between

[6:15] Virginia and myself and we don't know the results of that yet but hopefully

[6:21] that will be coming out soon and we can work on that next

[6:24] spring so that is the information on that one just out of curiosity the

[6:31] tennis court that's there are they reviewing the tennis court no no Tenn it

[6:36] will still be a tennis court and I think I didn't go to really see up close the

[6:42] tennis court but it looked like it was still in in quite usable shape good

[6:46] stuff thank you and we're getting all that for

[6:49] $120,000 well $120,000 and there I I forget what the

[6:56] what the percentag is that will will need to come from the city for that uh I

[7:00] don't know if it was a 25% 75% or I don't remember and you can do

[7:06] that in kind of Labor okay so okay it depends but

[7:11] usually it's 75 25 or 8020 it just depends right

[7:17] right and I was thinking 7525 was the

[7:22] yeah okay thank you did you want to move on to the

[7:28] attached letter for green and inclusive community building Grant application for

[7:33] the Dr Road Center yes so that one uh is due for um the application is due on

[7:42] October 16th and it's uh green and inclusive it's a federal application so

[7:50] the green is a must part of the application the inclusive is a uh you

[7:57] get bonus points if it's all also accessible yeah so um Emily Cormier who

[8:03] is the city's sustainability coordinator has some rather large plans for some

[8:10] green infrastructure uh that will be included

[8:13] on that Grant and from the accessibility point of view uh we will be applying for

[8:20] funding for the um for the accessible bleachers for the John roads Arena the

[8:25] one that does not have any accessible uh seating

[8:31] areas uh that will be a kind of a modular type elevated

[8:37] platform uh that will be accessible it'll be at the end of the

[8:42] Arena um and it will be it will be a large open area and then we'll we'll

[8:48] bring in some some portable seats kind of like what we have here that we're

[8:53] using today uh for any companion seating so there'll be lots of room for problem

[8:59] probably up to about six people or maybe more with Mobility devices for the

[9:04] viewing area so that's the inclusive people of the Grant and um and at our

[9:12] last um at our last meeting we approved the uh the portion to come out of the

[9:18] barrier removal funds can I Mr chair to today I just want to let people

[9:28] know that I have been over to that site and I have been on that ramp that they

[9:35] currently have that ramp is so Ricky so not nice for

[9:43] wheelchairs um that it needs to be done so hopefully we can get it past and it

[9:49] will be done properly because all we see is uh the wood can shut at any day so

[9:59] that that and it's only two lamps so one

[10:05] person at time can only see part of the G and the class has to be lowered and so

[10:14] if we raise if we put the creatures in it'll be on a raised uh

[10:21] floor and um we won't have to lure of the Arena glass

[10:31] yeah yeah the um the the people who attend the um the Thunderbirds games

[10:39] that have Mobility devices that want to watch the games have had a really poor

[10:44] time watching games and I think as a result there aren't many people with

[10:49] Mobility devices that attend to watch Thunderbird games anymore because it's

[10:53] just it's such a poor healing experience so a long long overdue um and

[11:01] so the committee provided a letter of support thank you chair for the letter

[11:07] um and that was in the

[11:14] attachments moving right along um D I know that you Derek and Carol went out

[11:20] with a number of City staff to look at some of more challenging intersections I

[11:25] drove past you when you were with Peter Derek I was like there's Derek when

[11:30] you're at the Care community at uh GRE Northern Northern Avenue I was turning

[11:35] to go pick up Aiden at the college I'm like

[11:39] there but it made an impact because you were noticed I felt like by being a

[11:44] group like that at that intersection yes and you got recognition

[11:49] yes good yes there were lots of uh lots of different people that recognized that

[11:55] there was something going on because there was people with with um clipboards

[12:00] and pens and and yeah we you wore the red y yeah wee a red accessible t-shirts

[12:09] yeah um and the goal of that day I I'll introduce what happened that day and

[12:16] then Derek and Derek and Carol on the on the phone uh can give us an overview

[12:21] from from their perspective how things went but the goal for the day was for

[12:28] planning and engineering staff and planning and Engineering attended with

[12:32] us and it was fabulous um for them to understand what it's like to have

[12:38] various different kinds of disabilities and using intersections and what are the

[12:43] gaps what are the challenges and how can we do it better moving forward so it was

[12:49] an education opportunity for staff um and I think it went very well it was

[12:54] very well received by staff um and the problem

[12:59] the very best comment that we could have received Carol you love this one I'm

[13:04] sure you you've heard me say it is that it was an eye opening

[13:09] experience so yeah isn't that great

[13:13] Carol it is it is definitely all right so Derek if you

[13:18] want to put in your perspective and then Carol if you wouldn't mind uh since

[13:23] you're able to join us also you can you can give us from your point of view how

[13:28] things went perfect furthermore I think it brings

[13:33] City staff and us closer we're not just volunteer and staff we a bunch of people

[13:40] that care about the city yeah um we we all care about the city this room so we

[13:47] all took time to look at these problems that how how how fast does it

[13:54] take a person or how slow how fast is I like the changes so it might not impact

[14:04] us right now but in future with all the notes that we took

[14:11] and we do take a lot of notes um the city's going to be able to

[14:17] have a better plan for the next uh infrastructure you will say okay we got

[14:26] to do it this way so it's not one side working

[14:32] with another side were joined it was a community

[14:39] effort uh here in the suit and I don't know if other

[14:46] municipalities did what we do what we did by taking our s stock and saying

[14:55] okay this is where we have problems for instance if I can just give

[15:01] you um a place by um the

[15:10] uh the uh place there where we were at the school at that

[15:17] Crossing where was steep that was old Garden River Road and second line no it

[15:24] was uh the by the school by the by oh St Mary's s yeah yes St Mary's and it

[15:35] was the uh ReStore Habitat for Humanity oh Superior

[15:42] Heights yes that was steep to go down

[15:50] that that thing the curve cut the curve

[15:56] cut so the city about to see okay okay how hard is it for wheelchair to line up

[16:03] and then see that the light changes before we even get

[16:11] rolling yeah excellent um was that your biggest teaching moment Derek I think so

[16:18] because they they need everybody needs to know it takes a person in a

[16:23] wheelchair or with a walker can crutches and we need a head start to get

[16:30] it to get going and to be safe yeah so I think many of the times

[16:39] at the intersections something that happened is um both Carol the way that

[16:44] that she navigates and she tell you a little bit more about it Derek and

[16:48] myself before we've even left the curb it has changed to walk to the flashing

[16:54] hand yeah um and I as much as you can explain that to someone it's entirely

[17:01] different to watch someone experience that so that was a that was a huge um a

[17:08] huge huge teaching moment for me that I was I was very happy to be able to share

[17:15] that yeah anything else d I think fun was had by

[17:21] all we got to know our community leaders a little bit better that the

[17:29] they quite often people see just a wheelchair and we're not just

[17:34] wheelchairs for people and we're we're a group that are we a group of individuals

[17:41] that uh that are trying to make the city OB

[17:47] accessible um to the city so it's not going to be in my time but it's going to

[17:55] be years down Ro because the that we took that they they'll take back and

[18:00] they'll put in their Master plans and so things will be a little while yet but

[18:07] we're getting there and we're with all all of us working together we can all

[18:15] have a better since St Marie so I would like to thank Diane for allowing me to

[18:22] be a part of it um Carol I would like to thank you as well because we open some

[18:29] eyes and we open even as we as you said like you were driving down some of the

[18:36] streets that we we uh went to and it was nice to see a group of us instead of

[18:44] just one going with all the staff and trying to show them so thank you

[18:52] everyone very well said there thank you thanks Carol

[19:00] okay um I think it was a a great learning and a great teaching

[19:08] experience for myself and for the Departments that

[19:16] really did not understand it until they experienced it and for many years we've

[19:24] been trying to explain to people what it is like with Street Crossing when you

[19:30] have Vision lck Derek explained exactly how it is when you have a

[19:38] Mobility difficulties crossing the street I explained it how it is how

[19:44] difficult it is with vision loss yes their eyes were opened and

[19:49] that's all we kept on hearing they couldn't believe how difficult it was

[19:55] they had absolutely no idea by the time we were done they finally

[20:01] understood and that is the importance of the

[20:05] aaac here in Sous St Marie that everyone on the AAC totally

[20:11] 100% understands what it is like to have a disability you live it you experience

[20:18] it you stick together and you help each other and you support each other to help

[20:24] life be more easier for people with a disability to be able to access whatever

[20:31] it is you need in order to live the best life that you can and I am thankful that

[20:37] we have the AAC and support of the people on our AAC here in s St Marie and

[20:43] hopefully now at the city planners the city

[20:48] Engineers experiences uh I'm hoping that now they will finally understand what it

[20:54] is like and maybe we'll start seeing some changes to do the

[21:00] better I'm done that that's my my little feel for you guys I'm

[21:06] really happy we did it

[21:11] thanks ask who from City St wasend you recall yes 100% um from planning it was

[21:20] Peter and uh Jonathan kirkl um he's our active

[21:25] Transportation guy um from engineering engineering there was Carl Magie and

[21:34] Dan as well Susan Hamilton Beach was there and that was amazing to have her

[21:40] there as well because she's looking from the top down with

[21:44] everybody else and now for her to have um an eye

[21:49] towards what a a good Crossing can look like or better yet what a poor crossing

[21:55] looks like yeah um you know she can help to direct staff to to try to figure out

[22:02] things differently yeah I just add something um I think it'll be important

[22:07] next time as well and I brought this up is um when we have folks with um

[22:13] invisible barriers so I know for um a lot of our folks um on the officing

[22:20] Spectrum or if there's another intellectual disability Down syndrome as

[22:24] soon as that hand goes up they go back to the corner and I know so it would be

[22:29] interesting to maybe from Thrive to get like a um either through Amanda with use

[22:34] on the move or something like that to get some perspective on difficulties of

[22:38] Crossing um I've also had that with some International students because I I live

[22:44] on Queen so a lot of them are going to the university or going to college and

[22:48] taking the bus and as soon as they see that hand go they'll even go back too

[22:53] thinking that they have to go back and i' I've brought that up before with um

[22:58] with Andy stomski that we don't have enough time um so I think there's that

[23:03] other piece and I think um Carol just to um kind of reiterate holding um the

[23:11] city accountable via the AAC we approved a strategic plan at the last council

[23:17] meeting and one of the pillars is removing barriers and being more

[23:21] accessible so um maybe at the next agenda um our next meeting put it on the

[23:26] agenda that piece and either have Tom come to speak about

[23:31] it or um even Brett laming as to what they consider that to be in terms of

[23:37] planning and I think that um having our perspective on AAC would be really

[23:45] important and thanks Carol

[23:50] thanks sorry s go ahead um to add on to Lisa's point I know another communities

[23:57] which I think we've all seen is they have a countown so instead of a hand um

[24:02] it may be 20 seconds 19 what not whatnot and I'm sure there's guidelines um for

[24:08] the national accessibility group to say that hypothetically maybe it should be

[24:12] 45 seconds maybe it should be minute I don't know but uh I would like to see

[24:18] staff look into um you know switching the hand to you now have 30 seconds 29

[24:26] seconds so so the international student or any Dall person with the hand will

[24:31] know okay I can continue on because I still have X number seconds do you see

[24:35] what I'm saying yes it's my understanding that would be implemented

[24:40] on Queen Street with the new as well as I'm pretty sure I can't be 100% sure I

[24:48] think that was also going to be going in on Great Northern Road and Northern a as

[24:54] well he implemented that back corner but just countdown timers not changes to the

[25:01] actual structure of the of the what's there right but they I believe they will

[25:06] be added in that area so hypothetically could we um hypothetically pass a

[25:12] resolution to say but such and such Year we hope that majority the city will have

[25:17] a count system or something like that that would be or hypothetically we

[25:25] as a committee can continue on look at more of the priority are of the city

[25:31] sure sure can I have that repeated can I can I have you repeat

[25:37] that sure sorry um Diane was saying that there are certain intersections that are

[25:44] taking priority where the intersection is going to be somewhat redesigned for

[25:49] better accessibility where the hand is going to

[25:53] be replaced with like a countdown system to say hypothetically is 30 seconds 29

[26:00] seconds 28 seconds so forth so forth for the amount of time you have to cross the

[26:06] intersection so I was saying hypothetically can the accessibility

[26:11] committee work with City staff to say that we as a committee prioritize other

[26:20] areas that need attention that need to have

[26:24] intersections change with the countdown system and and intersections altered to

[26:30] be more helpful and maybe okay maybe we can do

[26:36] this over a period of five years I don't know but I'm just throwing that idea out

[26:42] there okay and and sorry and if I can add to that um what we're doing with the

[26:48] intersections is so important for everyone in the community senior

[26:52] citizens anyone that have um some difficulties that's all thank you

[26:59] okay but the problem with the new lights are if you're want to tun to the

[27:07] speaker of it's A's wa right you're not going to you're not going to know when

[27:14] to go like you really have to look at you

[27:19] really have to listen for the please wait and then you have the the alarms

[27:28] going off the um cuckoo and all that to get

[27:34] across um what I'm hearing from other people is that it should be where you

[27:41] can hear from somebody these apartment is there not I don't know she

[27:48] too here

[27:50] like I need the the volume needs to be turned up

[27:56] on yes that was another challenge that we all experienced quite well is um is

[28:04] not being able to hear the audible part of the signal and the please weight part

[28:11] um was implemented in in two intersections uh Great Northern

[28:15] Road uh no sorry old Garden River Road second line and uh the Metro Northern a

[28:26] Crossing there br new technology with a what's called a proximity sensor so you

[28:32] don't actually have to touch the button all you have to do is wave your hand or

[28:36] move something in front of the sensor and it will activate it um the signal

[28:44] says please wait as soon as it's activated but most of us couldn't hear

[28:49] it even though we were sitting or standing right beside it so that was a

[28:53] challenge and the volume as well and to this it's still a problem yes it's still

[29:01] still hasn't been adjusted yes yeah but that means that all four sides uh I

[29:08] haven't been able to check the other ones because of the way it's set up

[29:13] right now I can only do one Lan maybe two yeah yeah there's one part of the

[29:20] crossing D isn't able to use in in that intersection but yes one of one of many

[29:27] uh different challenges and that was a common complaint with the accessible

[29:32] pedestrian signals is that you couldn't hear them and many other Crossings in

[29:38] Sous St Marie don't have an audible component so it makes it especially

[29:43] challenging for um anyone with vision loss to have a clue where the other side

[29:50] of the road is because some of our roads aren't lined up exactly straight you

[29:55] know old Garden River Road second line line is is one that's a diamond shape so

[30:00] you could be really messed up um trying to cross an intersection like that

[30:06] without an audible inment so many many many

[30:11] concerns I don't mean to throw our um counselors like off

[30:19] but we have an by law after 11 11 now what I heard

[30:28] from Peter is that they've been getting told to turn

[30:36] the chps down but we need it up somebody that F needs it turned up and it needs

[30:44] to go as loud as it goes so how do we deal with the N bylaw people's Comfort

[30:52] level because they're sleeping and they don't want to hear the cuckoo all night

[30:57] but how do

[31:00] respect how do we respect um the bylaw and the people that need

[31:09] it as far as I understand Derek the only time the cuckoo and chirs comes on the

[31:15] audible sound comes on is when the button is pushed or it's activated so if

[31:21] there's no one Crossing there at 11 or 12 or 2:00 in the morning which probably

[31:28] very few people um the the signal shouldn't move going

[31:33] so I think that alleviate okay I just no I just asked

[31:38] because like we're here we're trying to honor

[31:43] a bylaw but it might turned out and people might call it in and say Well it

[31:51] need be turn down I can't sleep so what do we do as yeah I don't that shouldn't

[31:57] be and there's not like I think especially where Care Community is going

[32:01] to be there could be like an apartment that's a unit that's right there but as

[32:06] Diane said unless it's pressed it's not going to make noise okay but some people

[32:11] might complain about it at 8:00 at night so you never know right like

[32:15] it's ju just so that you guys are aware we're we're saying as as a community it

[32:21] needs to be turned up but you might get a call um counselor wise to say oh that

[32:30] trip goes on and on for hours which we are allowed to use it :00 at night but

[32:40] 11:00 everybody should be in there residences usually yeah I've never

[32:46] gotten a call about an audible signal okay

[32:51] yeah I just want okay well no I just wanted to let

[32:56] you know that those turned

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[33:03] up if I could make a suggestion as kind of um where proceed from here it sounds

[33:10] like you know Derek Carol and Di had a great meeting with senior staff for

[33:16] those of the committee who aren't like sure who everybody is Susan Hamilton

[33:20] Beach is the person who's in charge of both engineering and public works and

[33:25] the two lieutenants I guess if that's word I love that word you like that word

[33:30] I Know Carl will like it Dan will really like it we're also there so the person

[33:34] who's in charge of engineering who reports the Susan and the person who's

[33:37] in charged of Public Works who reports the Susan we're also in attendant so you

[33:41] really have all the Deep think maybe not deep thinkers but the people who

[33:46] certainly can make the right decisions and who are responsible for these things

[33:50] and I'm just wondering as kind of a followup and I I appreciate that this

[33:54] was like go out and see how what's happening here let's kind of have this

[33:57] is a bit of learning experience for everybody but I'm wondering if if B if

[34:02] you could just follow up with Susan and identify like some of the concerns that

[34:08] we have and I I think it would be great to invite Susan to a future meeting yeah

[34:13] I mean I thought the idea let's have Tom come to a meeting and talk about our

[34:16] strategic planning great but let's have Susan Susan come to this meeting and she

[34:21] wants to bring Dan and and and Carl fine you know that's great but if like we're

[34:27] here yeah I think dark has put it really well you know we're all here to work

[34:31] together we're not here to Ambush anybody these are our concerns just

[34:34] let's remind them that they are important to us we can improve things

[34:39] and can we have a discussion about the best way to do

[34:42] this that makes sense excellent fair enough very okay um are we ready to move

[34:51] on because before we move on to the last two items under uh new business

[34:58] I think it'd be worth well to bring the the committee up to speed on what we

[35:01] were talking about with the kayak do down at at the B Marina yes did

[35:09] you just take a minute sure um so as you know the uh the kayak dog at the Bel new

[35:17] Marina um we were successful in getting some funds for the updates the paving

[35:24] for that area has been done it was done just last week so there is now a paved

[35:30] Corner which will turn into two accessible parking spots with signage

[35:35] and access aisle and the paved path to the kayak dock is now there and it looks

[35:42] fabulous absolutely fabulous the next part will be uh railings on the ramping

[35:51] that goes to the dock uh as well as remediating a 3-in

[35:56] step that exists from the from the rant down to the dog so that will be

[36:01] addressed um the grant is supposed to be finished at the end of November November

[36:08] 25th um and I spoke with the gentleman who's likely to be doing the work and he

[36:14] says that shouldn't be a problem so keep you posted any other

[36:20] news and that is also the access that goes out to the Su naturalists or

[36:26] whoever built it doing area at that point as well right so there's there's

[36:30] like there's a walkway that need needs to

[36:33] Beed yes yes yes there is the walkway that goes that was an existing paved

[36:39] Pathway to The Zo naturalist viewing platform um and the part that was just

[36:45] added very dark black ash um goes from because there's a slope down to the to

[36:54] the naturalist viewing area and then pop kind of does a switch back to the dog so

[37:00] that it's a gentle nice gentle uh grade there's no no steep pitches or

[37:07] anything yeah keep you

[37:12] posted yeah okay sorry we just thought we that would be interesting for people

[37:17] to know uh snow removal yeah um every year Public Works

[37:23] takes um suggestions or requests for for snow removal areas for instance a lot of

[37:31] Street I shouldn't say a lot of streets some residential areas have sidewalks on

[37:35] both sides but only one sidewalk is cloud um they try to be efficient with

[37:41] their snow removal um priorities so if anyone has any uh areas due to

[37:49] accessibility disability that requires it become a priority to please let me

[37:55] know but just keep in mind has to be something to do with

[38:00] accessibility so let me know as soon as go ahead Carol I do have a I do have

[38:07] a place Diane okay it's popular

[38:12] Avenue YCA popular

[38:16] Avenue okay YMCA oh good one Carol I've gotten calls

[38:23] about the um laundry mat to in Montery Gardens That

[38:28] Sidewalk what is that so there's um a sort of like a old strip wall and

[38:35] there's a laundry M there that sidewalk being

[38:38] done because people are coming down from Housing Court okay and going down and

[38:43] accessing um I'll get the street for you okay I'm totally it's not Brian it's um

[38:48] right behind the old war houses well it's all it's all in the it's all the

[38:52] war time it's all La Gardens I think it's current Drive I think that's

[38:57] current Drive yeah yeah it's my old neighborhood I should know I used to

[39:01] ride my bike to Charlie confection um yeah righte yeah you're

[39:07] not that old yeah but there so people are going from

[39:14] Housing Court which is behind the Y like in that popular area and then smil and

[39:19] then going down but I'll give you the name of the street okay perfect

[39:24] Civ that's a really good yeah go ahead um actually ironically I was talking to

[39:29] Susan Hamilton Beach and I was she say October 3 ver is the absolute deadline

[39:35] as we probably know right and that's why I I kind of need it now or ASAP yeah yes

[39:42] um can you put Robin Street

[39:47] on okay is there anything specific about Robin Street um there's well basically

[39:54] there's five senior citizens that live on that street I I don't know if that

[39:58] qualifies but I just want okay five seniors and so is it the North Side the

[40:04] South Side East West is it is it's like a horseshoe okay and so when you look at

[40:10] the map of how it works it's very obvious it's like

[40:15] AE school elementary school yeah what what can you do about getting it done

[40:22] properly like Pine Street work through basic is on the hill that whole whole

[40:27] area the guy just bounces over up down these great big hunks in front of the

[40:33] bus where the bus stop is um a lot of those apartments have students and

[40:40] they're hopping over whatever

[40:43] icebergs and um but there's a lot of seniors there too trying to hike their

[40:49] groceries over these pumps and bums and it's all because the the the person

[40:55] that's doing it just goes like about out of hell and doesn't care and leaves this

[41:00] deep and then this up here he's got it here it's a mess and then it freezes

[41:08] then it's solid IED it is

[41:14] popular Ginger and wash and dryers maybe to dian's point when if

[41:21] Susan does come to one of our future meetings that could be addressed with

[41:25] her as well

[41:29] yeah like if the the person I they're in a hurry

[41:34] obviously and they could put the pl down a little

[41:40] bit this is a sidewalk PL yeah and then to cross the street to

[41:47] catch the bus you sometimes this

[41:53] high no ice ice

[42:00] yes it is a challenge for um the sidewalk snow cloud folks a lot will

[42:06] depend upon the the condition of the sidewalk underneath Pine Street I don't

[42:11] really know how rough it is but if if you know there's sidewalks that add

[42:16] uneven and when they go over an uneven sidewalk can quite a quite a a pile of

[42:22] snow um but we can last year they did great

[42:30] but yes I thought it was a bonus here it

[42:37] was um I do have one more place I want to

[42:42] mention only because there's been some people that have mentioned this to me

[42:47] and they're really not sure who it is that's in charge of this okay so the

[42:52] road that is where the bus stop is where Walmart is is the road that goes to

[42:59] penos okay there's a bus stop and the bus drivers have a hard time going

[43:05] around that corner because the road is not

[43:08] plowed and people have a hard time getting to the bus stop because the

[43:12] sidewalks not ploud now um I Heard a couple of different stories um because

[43:19] some of the drivers have told me that it's not city property that it's

[43:23] Walmart's responsibility to the road and the

[43:27] sidewalk there but what's the real story on that because it's a mess in the

[43:32] winter time people are having a hard time walking and the drivers are having

[43:36] a hard time driving the bus if it's okay I'll answer that

[43:39] question that that is Walmart uh and when we uh did the lights where penos

[43:45] are now we the city actually was going to go in and do some work on Walmart's

[43:50] property kind of just to help them move things along and we were advised by

[43:54] Walmart's lawyers that that cannot happen that they have to they have to

[43:58] hire contractors and that's one of the reason that job was delayed because

[44:02] everybody has to be under contract with Walmart to work on Walmart property so

[44:06] the city even though we said we were going to go inad can't and fixing things

[44:11] up for them that didn't happen now they do

[44:16] um you know they are responsive public complaints so I I think there's probably

[44:23] a an opportunity to do something there but we have to kind of wait until

[44:28] there's a problem and

[44:33] then okay it's Walmart's property the

[44:39] city and and I think if the problem one of the biggest problems is with the

[44:45] transit buses being able to to to get around because of of snow I think

[44:52] perhaps a a a concern should come from transit to Walmart on that uh if there's

[45:00] pedestrians they should also be that are having trouble they should also be

[45:05] complaining to Walmart on it that is an excellent idea have trans Transit coming

[45:12] yeah because we

[45:16] yeah okay because this was Transit drivers that were telling me this and I

[45:21] went into Walmart myself and asked them

[45:27] and they told me yeah they're responsible for

[45:30] it so I mean

[45:35] even it's very difficult to uh you know if they don't do

[45:40] it it's anyway it was just something that was brought to my attention a few

[45:47] times no I think that's a really good point girl Walmart does build business

[45:51] they can afford to you know C the sidewalk yeah yeah

[46:00] um okay any other comments on snow removal if you think of anything feel

[46:06] free to contact Dian because uh you know as SRA pointed out we have a a limited

[46:11] amount of time to get something into public works on

[46:17] this um Diane chair um just note on on like

[46:27] depends what uh time day it is um if it's um later on in the

[46:36] afternoon around the Metro but on the where the point wash used to

[46:45] be yeah in that section sometimes the plow would it

[46:50] comes by it leaves a trail of snow so when somebody

[46:56] has to stop try to

[46:59] reach try to line up it doesn't I I go inside

[47:06] down with my chair I used go inside a lot I don't go very often but people are

[47:14] trying to get across to Metro

[47:19] and it's not easy if they have to step over a paint or whatever so we

[47:27] try to put that on prity list there's a lot of seniors disa that

[47:35] go good point yeah

[47:40] okay anything else um I have one bus

[47:45] shelter um concern and it is the bus

[47:51] shelter where the old Safeway building used to be on great Norther um

[47:57] I think the call center was there for a while so um the the windows yeah the

[48:05] glass on that shelter I think there's only one pain of glass left on it so the

[48:10] bus shelter when you're in it there's no protection from the rain or wind at all

[48:16] now so I'm wondering if they're planning on replacing the broken glass that would

[48:21] in there how long has that been there Carol

[48:28] what was that how long has has the has the glass been broken in

[48:33] there well the glass is missing like there's not broken pieces there it's

[48:37] missing so it's been a while yeah it's been a while like like

[48:44] months like a year oh yeah yeah oh no I don't think it's been that long it's

[48:50] been uh been a few months

[48:55] yeah been all summer anyway we'll bring that up with Transit

[49:01] um because they you know they should be able to replace that those glass

[49:08] that yeah because the angle that the shelters on you've got no protection at

[49:15] all got

[49:19] it

[49:23] okay moving right along we're changing our G meeting we are um January 8th

[49:31] January 6th is when um Everybody the the Christmas holidays is over and the eth

[49:37] is two days later so um I'm requesting to move or delay our January meeting

[49:45] until January 15 so um it'll be noted in the minutes

[49:52] of course but if everybody can maybe Mark that on their calendar um um and

[49:58] I'll also um you know when I send out the agendas we we'll be talking about

[50:05] that in December about our next meeting in

[50:08] January but if you can take a look at your calendars and Mark that down that'

[50:13] be great 15

[50:23] 15 oh ahe okay I do a lot of talking at these meetings

[50:29] my goodness I guess it's because I'm relaying a lot of information no it's

[50:33] your most interesting person I hardly think that's

[50:38] true um we're doing a a public consultation openhouse through the

[50:45] accessibility legislation there is a requirement for the city to do at least

[50:51] one openhouse public consultation so that's going to be on October 30th from

[50:59] 3: to 6:00 p.m. at the accessibility Center Transit will be there and Parks

[51:06] will be there and I will be there um so it is an opportunity for people to give

[51:12] a feedback on any accessibility issues any barriers they've encountered in the

[51:18] community uh in particular there are some things that the city must consult

[51:23] with the public on uh so one of them is the accessibility plan and the

[51:28] effectiveness of the accessibility plan um another one say for instance is bus

[51:36] stops and shelters that uh Transit must consult on um Parks is supposed to be

[51:43] Consulting on uh the design of uh playgrounds and playground

[51:49] equipment um so there are some requirements so there will be some some

[51:53] specific questions

[51:58] and thanks Sam sorry so there will be some specific

[52:03] things that we're looking for feedback on but we also accept feedback from the

[52:08] community on anything accessibility and and barrier related can

[52:12] [Music]

[52:18] we where is the accessibility Center that's where we always have our meetings

[52:26] yes

[52:29] yes and I'm sure since like pass along if you wanted some

[52:35] posters or something put up like some displays yes they they have people who

[52:41] are very competent doing those things that would be

[52:47] great [Music]

[52:50] I because certain kid's car is finally ready his first car picked up o pretty

[52:57] exciting I don't know I think it's more exciting for lose Automotive

[53:01] [Music] it's we have the date and time again

[53:06] please October 30th 3 to 6: p.m.

[53:22] [Music]

[53:27] um so we move to Old business yes can I say Carol that I

[53:34] really appreciated I think everyone did really appreciated your comments at the

[53:38] last meeting it has not fallen on De ears um and I'm going to turn this over

[53:44] to Diane to kind of explain where we're at on this yeah so okay thank you at our

[53:50] last meeting uh Carol did a uh an impromptu well it was impromptu CH it

[53:56] wasn't to her she was well prepared for it um did a presentation on some of the

[54:01] barriers that she's encountered and how it just seems like there's no progress

[54:08] on it on on some of them anyways um and she had a lot of questions and any

[54:13] concerns um so I've I've spoken with Peter on this like how do we address

[54:20] this so I will be Consulting with the city staff that are are responsible for

[54:26] the items that that Carol brought forward and I'll be bringing um uh

[54:32] feedback or or responses from their departments to the committee at the next

[54:37] meeting so Carol when you're there in person we'll we'll have uh we'll have

[54:42] feedback for you on on all of your concerns

[54:46] okay great thank you no

[54:52] problem did you want to talk about our video remote interpreter

[54:56] yes this is so exciting this has been in the works for I don't know like five

[55:01] years maybe even more I think it was started before Co um so the video remote

[55:07] interpreter for the VRI Service uh tomorrow morning at 10:00 I'll be at the

[55:15] Civic Center lobby we've got the equipment it's been purchased and ready

[55:21] to go um and we'll be doing a test with VRI our IT staff will be there as well

[55:29] um and then once we've done the test and we know everything is up and running and

[55:35] we've got our all of our account information uh set to go that will go

[55:41] live and be available for anyone for any Department in uh in the Civic Center as

[55:48] the trial for someone who is De and requires ASL interpreter it's an ASL not

[55:55] quite on demand because it's not push the button and someone's there it might

[56:00] be a couple of minutes before someone is available um but it'll be a a new

[56:05] customer service experience for citizens to St marine and then depending upon how

[56:13] that's received if and how often it's used we'd like to get roll that out to

[56:19] various different customer service areas within the corporation so tomorrow

[56:24] morning we'll be yes uh Dian before you go further Could

[56:30] you um uh say what the acronyms are for the people that don't know yes I I did

[56:38] say that Carol and I'm I'm sorry if it didn't come out clear so it's it's okay

[56:44] yeah the service is V that's the acronym and it stands for

[56:51] video remote interpreter okay can hear it now okay

[56:58] yes and um the passionate covered that very nicely as well did they clear if

[57:05] you still have to book an appointment in order to have that V service no no if

[57:12] you were doing um a meeting or something if we were doing a meeting here and we

[57:18] want a a remote interpreter yes that would be best quit it is for on demand

[57:25] short interactions customer service interactions not so much for meetings

[57:31] it's a you know a five minute conversation um can you tell me where I

[57:37] find a book on do it yourself house renovations um or how much does it cost

[57:45] to go for a swim at the pool it's meant for those short things so it may not be

[57:52] instant because they do have a bank of interpreters ASL

[57:56] interpreters um across I think Canada um and it may take a little while

[58:02] to find one that's that's available has the green light and and they can

[58:07] dispatch that person so very excited about

[58:12] that yeah yeah so we'll try that tomorrow morning and then at the next

[58:18] meeting uh hopefully we we will have launched it it will have gone live and

[58:25] uh I can let you know that

[58:32] works this is something that um or actually I don't know if this is a

[58:37] question for Carrie or Diane so is this something that someone with vision loss

[58:44] can feel as you are explaining it so we know how it

[58:50] works if you were live at the Civic Center

[58:57] with us you would be able to feel

[59:01] it but okay I I can describe what the equipment looks like so it's an

[59:10] iPad that that will be on a stand it'll be on

[59:15] a movable stand so that it can go to various different departments in the

[59:20] corporation and it will be powered by a USB device because there isn't very

[59:27] reliable wifi in in the Civic Center so we're actually buying a data package

[59:33] with USP device USB device so that it can go to any Department anywhere in the

[59:40] Civic Center I guess ideally it could go anywhere um and if someone who is De

[59:47] uppercase D de uses uh American Sign Language

[59:53] interpreter uh would present at customer service

[59:57] the iPad with VRI will be sitting there there will be a press release hopefully

[1:00:04] you know people who are deaf will will know that it's available but it will be

[1:00:08] sitting there and it'll there'll be a sign that says VRI and they just have to

[1:00:14] motion that they need VRI and then the receptionist will then

[1:00:20] be able to activate it to call an ASL interpreter

[1:00:26] and the person who is deck will be looking at the iPad and will sign to the

[1:00:32] iPad the question the comment the concern uh that they're there for and

[1:00:38] then the ASL interpreter on the iPad will then speak the question comment or

[1:00:46] concern to the recept receptionist and then the receptionist

[1:00:52] can answer and the ASL will then be able to relay that via uh ASL to the person

[1:01:01] who is dead so it's a means of of communication and and thank you for uh

[1:01:07] asking that question because not everybody would have a clue what video

[1:01:14] remote interpreter meant right just so that I understand

[1:01:19] the corly though so for someone to use this they have to come into the building

[1:01:25] yes yes it is meant for a personto person customer service

[1:01:32] experience video to person yes because it is different for the duck

[1:01:38] Community to to speak to a live person vers the iPad it does prevent some it

[1:01:45] does provide some barriers being um using an interpreter

[1:01:50] on an iPad however that is the way that the world is going unfortunately not

[1:01:55] really um fully providing the accessible

[1:01:59] accessibility needs of the person that is De but that um it's another

[1:02:03] alternative to not having a live interpreter I should know the answer to

[1:02:08] this but I don't so if someone's sitting at home and they say I have a question

[1:02:13] for you know about a building permit I need to talk to somebody in the

[1:02:19] building how does that work like how how do they do they have to come down to

[1:02:24] City Hall basically so before it would have been a TTY yeah most do not use a

[1:02:30] TTY any longer they just use their phones and text which is great so they

[1:02:35] can text to agencies or places that can text back but that's not everybody

[1:02:41] either so um email is another form of asking questions as

[1:02:47] well or an interpreter what about Belle really yeah you can use Belle Rel that's

[1:02:55] um for when the person is using a TTY and the other

[1:02:58] person on the other end does not have a TTY it's just that most most people are

[1:03:03] not using the

[1:03:07] T

[1:03:10] in actual interpreters there are

[1:03:16] two official um ASL interpreters one works

[1:03:21] for CHS one is a freelance okay I don't know if or any other car do you know no

[1:03:28] that's that's correct okay hypothetically if someone knows that

[1:03:32] they want to go down to City Hall in the future could they get City Hall to book

[1:03:37] one of these interpreters to me them for a special meeting absolutely okay

[1:03:43] absolutely and um I'm getting into the weeds but is that part of the training

[1:03:48] manual for sta City orientation it will be

[1:03:56] this iPad yes we'll do the trial the test tomorrow yeah and then from there

[1:04:03] the reception staff will be trained on its use okay and then from there when

[1:04:08] someone comes down to use the equipment with someone who is De because maybe

[1:04:13] they showed up in person and want to talk about a building permit um the

[1:04:18] receptionist will then be able to say to Carl or to Magie this is how you use it

[1:04:26] and we'll set it up in whatever whatever area works for you okay yes so then will

[1:04:32] they be using well what what are they using or or what should we be using

[1:04:36] going forward for meetings even such as this

[1:04:39] that's being Live on YouTube but we don't have interpreter we don't have an

[1:04:47] interpreter because our sound has been so terrible there's no

[1:04:52] sound but The Interpreter any interpreter live though we could do live

[1:05:00] I don't think that's effective though to communicate to people at home who may be

[1:05:06] watching from home or who want to watch in the future because if you look on the

[1:05:12] camera right now our view is a little bit different but it may not be able to

[1:05:18] effectively capture because the ASL interpreter is going to be one of many

[1:05:24] in the room yeah um I think and I'm not positive about this I think the most

[1:05:30] effective way to use ASL is on Zoom where their um their ASL

[1:05:39] interpretation can be pegged so that it's a larger View and then the rest of

[1:05:44] us are smaller because what we're doing doesn't matter as much because we've got

[1:05:49] the verbal communication but for people who use the AFL they need to be able to

[1:05:54] see it a little bit larger larer once we have our sound worked out

[1:06:00] and I'm not sure how this is really going

[1:06:03] to how this is really going to sound when we hear the recording it's still a

[1:06:08] bit echy once we've got that then I would

[1:06:13] love to get ASL back for regular meetings

[1:06:21] yes okay any other questions comments thoughts

[1:06:28] well if that's the case uh and it says that we have no s plan subcommittee

[1:06:35] report but

[1:06:39] but you question okay I was gonna say that Derek Diane and myself went out to

[1:06:46] St CL field yes Sinclair field Sinclair field field it wasn't field it's

[1:06:53] Sinclair yard yard

[1:06:59] okay yeah you know what this is tough so anyways we had a good old time we met

[1:07:08] with this nice person

[1:07:14] um uh Pat and who was his other new was the elderly gentl

[1:07:23] yes who was the know of

[1:07:30] the okay um so any we went out there and we looked at the uh St clear

[1:07:39] Park s yard well and I

[1:07:49] call anyways um we sat and we talked about the

[1:07:54] washroom and what they need to do with the

[1:07:58] washroom and it was pretty neat to actually see that they were thinking of

[1:08:06] doing different fields but we have to the

[1:08:09] washrooms uh or they have to but with our

[1:08:13] help uh they have to get the whe uh wash wheelchair

[1:08:21] accessible before move to the next part correctly from the do though is that the

[1:08:28] truth or is am I just dreaming

[1:08:33] that no you you've got it basically yeah yeah they're they're they're working at

[1:08:40] Bas basically that I think it's a two-part program the first part and

[1:08:44] their top priority is to get the accessible washroom bu and I I was

[1:08:49] astounded by how big the building was I mean they certainly have lots of room in

[1:08:53] there yeah yeah so they're they're hoping to receive a grant on that we had

[1:09:01] committed to $6,000 $6,000 um is that by Council it was it

[1:09:10] was perfect so it it's sitting there in in a holding pattern waiting for their

[1:09:16] project to proceed and they really see putting the

[1:09:20] accessible washrooms in as as the first step and probably right if they can't do

[1:09:26] that why bother to move ahead but the game plan is I'm sorry dere I just kind

[1:09:30] of jumped in here no problem the game plan has eventually been put in an asur

[1:09:36] field and that is the accessible field and they have done it elsewhere uh

[1:09:43] [Music]

[1:09:46] bbody field which just makes it work for my

[1:09:53] accessibility view point there so many other go

[1:10:01] [Music]

[1:10:04] ahead no no I think I think it was it was a very good t tour both with graham

[1:10:12] with um with Pat Graham is the historian of the Su Miner baseball he knows

[1:10:19] everything absolutely everything um and Pat is the

[1:10:26] uh somewhat newly retired Enthusiast for uh sum

[1:10:32] baseball knows everything BR built everything new construction

[1:10:39] was so he's he has has an amazing network of friends

[1:10:45] where he calls and things happen it's a great system only can do that and can I

[1:10:52] make a comment of that all [Music]

[1:10:57] oh my God that is the most wonderful thing to see when you go out there you

[1:11:02] see a big gigantic baseball yes and I think it's got the

[1:11:08] Canadian record for the largest baseball in Canada yes

[1:11:14] yes so anybody at home go on said it's in Google Earth that's how

[1:11:24] popular

[1:11:28] [Music] and it was

[1:11:31] do it was actually for something else and the guy said well rather than throw

[1:11:36] this out I give to gra his guys you know sand it all down round it all out put an

[1:11:43] anchor on the thing pain it and that's how

[1:11:48] it so that's very

[1:11:53] um before we Jour sorry yes s go ahead sorry you have to remind me three times

[1:12:01] know that okay question um for Diane Diane um

[1:12:09] I'm sure I know the answer but want confirm the Emergency Management plan

[1:12:13] for the city I know that you've been part of

[1:12:17] that right yes yes in in a in a couple of different ways um one of the things

[1:12:24] that will be done in the future that came about as a result of uh Co

[1:12:30] shutdowns with literally everything is that um people who are deaf and rely on

[1:12:37] other means of of communication were cut off from the world um they they had a

[1:12:43] very difficult time receiving information about Co and

[1:12:48] afterwards um one of the takeways from that is that when any emergency

[1:12:54] information comes out from the city is that ASL will be used and it will be

[1:13:01] part of a video like you see quite often the States you see that through

[1:13:06] Emergency Management but there will be an ASL interpreter available as well to

[1:13:12] be able to provide emergency information um and I think Lauren and I

[1:13:19] have done some meetings with the death community and Lauren has taken away some

[1:13:25] information from those meetings and she's also got another task

[1:13:31] riew going on which I missed the first one because I think I was away for

[1:13:35] something we had a meeting yesterday excellent and so the emergency group got

[1:13:41] together and U she updated us on the emergency plan then it got me thinking

[1:13:48] that gave examples such as if the electricity went out and a large portion

[1:13:53] of people had to evacuated or moved you know you CR Hospital could be or used or

[1:14:00] other centers so then I was thinking if a large population had to be moved

[1:14:05] elsewhere is there a designated area in Su St Marine that is conducive to those

[1:14:12] with accessibility disabilities like should we have a

[1:14:16] designated like a mustard you know I mean yeah I think I

[1:14:22] think most Emergency Man plans are a little bit fluid it depends upon what

[1:14:28] the emergency is and who it affects um I know in the past I don't know if if it

[1:14:35] is still part of the plan I suspect it is is John rhs is is one of the

[1:14:40] emergency centers because there's a large large Gathering space capacity

[1:14:46] there um I think that is also capacity that Lauren is trying to build by um by

[1:14:55] coordinating with who should be involved who are contact for you know people with

[1:15:02] mental health who are contacts for um people with Mobility disabilities who

[1:15:08] are contacts for you know any other vulnerable population in the city and I

[1:15:14] think that is a new piece that is being worked on okay um and obviously you're

[1:15:20] part of all that that's that's all I want to know yeah yeah it's excellent

[1:15:24] It's it's a great collaboration and it's it's something that's very important has

[1:15:29] to happen thank

[1:15:32] you just before we move on does anyone have any comments uh on this using this

[1:15:39] room uh Dan is going to go back and look at the look at the tape because then

[1:15:44] we'll get a better sense as how's the video and audio working you know we'll

[1:15:49] be able to tell from that but you know good bad IND

[1:16:03] that's usually good is that good all right

[1:16:07] does it feel St it feels very stag

[1:16:15] ande start sweating a [Music]

[1:16:20] lot you can feel the air moving around airc

[1:16:26] thought there what if we were to get a computer that Dian can

[1:16:31] use rather than personal or is that a city it is a city

[1:16:37] laptop okay can you get the information that you need to do a live stream so you

[1:16:44] don't have to go through we went for today absolutely what I'll have to do is

[1:16:50] bring my laptop to City Hall and uh have Zoe in the same room with me and we'll

[1:16:58] it's just it's a security thing so that nobody abuses it's an extra piece of

[1:17:04] security done it once know once you get it all up go exactly once we've done it

[1:17:13] once together in the same room it it I don't think it's going to

[1:17:18] be a security issue because it wasn't a security issue uh on my on my desktop

[1:17:24] from the office now um what about these um overhead projectors like what we have

[1:17:33] to use there um can you explain that a little

[1:17:40] bit more D I'm not sure what you need there's a projector up there yeah if we

[1:17:46] were to access them what do we need to

[1:17:50] do exactly what we did this time which is we come and and they set it up

[1:17:59] for us I'm still not quite following what you need like what like for you to

[1:18:07] to do you have like how long to set up for that probably about a half an hour

[1:18:16] we had to bring our owl from the office it was here with us earlier they they

[1:18:21] grabbed the owl from our from our office and they set it up for us and now that

[1:18:28] I've seen it done once you know the gentleman here who help set up the

[1:18:33] tables and such can help me set up everything else it's it's it's not a big

[1:18:39] deal at

[1:18:42] all how do you find the space here I find the space

[1:18:48] okay but we can't lock that door because if some

[1:18:55] come in and they're part of all you're heing

[1:19:02] is door's locked yeah I think it's it's it's locked from the outside this door

[1:19:08] here is not locked and it's only to come back in yes we can we can have that

[1:19:16] unlocked for future meetings here okay so first we go live we're going to have

[1:19:23] somebody talking we're live we yeah yeah we can have that

[1:19:30] unlocked other thoughts do the benefits outweigh the amount of extra work it

[1:19:35] takes you

[1:19:38] D it will depend upon the quality right I can tell you the the visual quality of

[1:19:46] the meetings isn't as good because it's a projector rather than um the

[1:19:51] television but maybe that will look different on the recording I'm hoping

[1:19:56] the sound is better and if it is then we're ready to have an ASL interpreter

[1:20:02] join us again for for meetings what what's the difference if we're using the

[1:20:08] same um amplifier and to me the room is bigger which would make the Acoustics

[1:20:14] worse so I'm just wondering why it's better here or why it might be better

[1:20:19] here with the same device I think part of it is this wall here

[1:20:25] has something that softens that whole wall the the the pull down things it

[1:20:31] also mentioned that this space right above us here is just dropped down a

[1:20:36] little bit so it it just gives a different yeah different

[1:20:42] acoustic feel to it otherwise the room is very empty empty and I I still find

[1:20:48] it to be eoy a little bit um so I don't know what the sound is going to be the

[1:20:55] captioning on the video looks like it's fairly

[1:20:59] accurate um but we'll see what the sound is like is it better if the source is

[1:21:05] closer to people speaking because we can even

[1:21:10] close in just slightly and bring that and there's actually another one there's

[1:21:16] two the ows are designed to work as a pair they only have one here but like we

[1:21:21] use this system of own Public Health as well and it's exactly the same I it's

[1:21:27] BR and they a couple of feet AP about this far apart right it works great so

[1:21:33] that's and we we have the second one as well the it guys just been bringing yeah

[1:21:38] but I agree like the issue is this is I I like this room it's a big room it's a

[1:21:43] little less convenient for some people distance wise traveling I get that but

[1:21:48] the sound I think I like that b p

[1:21:55] those chairs at the other place for me is brutal barely make it through the the

[1:22:01] last 15 20 minutes it's like oh my goodness Diana it's okay time G bring a

[1:22:08] pillow with it deal I can make arrangements to get

[1:22:13] something else but these are you know softer they give a bit they're not like

[1:22:17] that hard plastic for Year yes yes good point I never even thought

[1:22:25] that um just that when you come into an entrance way there is some

[1:22:32] plants that are right inside our actuators are

[1:22:40] there there oh [Music]

[1:22:43] okay okay is it blocking okay I'll

[1:22:50] uh yeah no

[1:23:04] other thoughts if none can we have a motion to

[1:23:08] return [Music]

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Accessibility Advisory Committee (October 9, 2024)

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