[0:30] It is August 26th, 2026 and at 6 p.m. I'll call this meeting to order. Will

[0:36] you please stand and do the pledge of allegiance with us?

[0:41] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[0:46] republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:52] justice for all.

[0:58] » All right, we'll start with roll call. Councilman Caul,

[1:02] » here. >> Councilman Ly

[1:03] » here. >> Councilman Henderson,

[1:06] » here. >> Councilman Labbaka,

[1:08] » present. >> Councilman Cox,

[1:10] » here. >> Councilman D. Young,

[1:11] » present. >> And Councilwoman Peterson,

[1:14] » present. Do I have an approval for the agenda?

[1:20] » Madam Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve the agenda.

[1:23] » Second. >> Oh. Oh. Ty. [laughter]

[1:25] » All right. We have a motion to approve the agenda by Councilman Lvaka, seconded

[1:30] by Councilwoman Peterson. All those in favor signify by saying I.

[1:34] » I. >> Any oppose? Same sign.

[1:37] » Motion passes. And before I do the consent agenda, I'm going to pass it to

[1:42] Bill. >> Thank you. I had just had one

[1:45] clarification. So, um our surplus property u uh item in the consent

[1:51] agenda, the resolution number that's in the uh cover page is correct and uh only

[1:58] the placeholder resolution numbers on the actual resolution, but uh it has

[2:03] been corrected now and it is resolution um 11 193-26.

[2:11] » Okay. Thank you very much. So, with that, I'd be looking for a motion to

[2:16] approve the consent agenda.

[2:19] » A motion to approve. Second. >> All right. We have a motion by

[2:24] Councilman Henderson, seconded by Councilman D. Young. Um, all those in

[2:28] favor signify by saying I. >> I.

[2:30] » Any oppose? Same sign. >> Motion passes.

[2:36] All right. We will begin with a swearing in. Sabrina. So, would you like to come

[2:42] forward up here?

[3:16] All right. Will you raise your right hand and repeat after me? I, Zabrina

[3:21] Nybo, >> I, Sabrina Nybo,

[3:23] » do hereby declare >> do hereby declare

[3:26] » that I will support the Constitution of the United States

[3:29] » that I will support the Constitution of the United States

[3:31] » the Constitution of the State of Washington

[3:33] » the constit constitution of the state of Washington

[3:37] » and that as a member >> and that as a member

[3:39] » of the city of Cedar Willy fired

[3:44] » of this >> well let's do um let's not do the city

[3:47] of Cedar let's do The city of Cedar Willy Police

[3:52] Department. >> City of Cedar Willy Police Department.

[3:55] » Okay. My fundamental duty >> My fundamental duty

[3:58] » is to serve the people I swear to protect

[4:01] » is to serve the people I serve to protect.

[4:03] » To safeguard and preserve life. >> To safeguard and preserve life.

[4:07] » Health and property >> health and property

[4:09] » against fire and other perils >> against fire and other perils.

[4:13] » And to maintain >> And to maintain

[4:15] » a proficiency in the police service. of proficiency in the police service.

[4:20] » I recognize the badge >> I recognize the badge

[4:23] » of my office >> of my office

[4:25] » as a symbol >> as a symbol

[4:27] » of public faith >> of public faith

[4:29] » and trust >> and trust

[4:31] » and I accept >> and I accept

[4:33] » so long as I am true >> so long as I am true

[4:35] » to the ethics of the police service >> to the ethics of the police service

[4:41] » and make these promises >> and make these promises

[4:43] » so solemnly >> so solemnly

[4:45] » freely >> freely

[4:46] » and upon my honor upon my honor. >> Welcome.

[4:50] » Thank you. >> Thank you very much. [applause]

[5:10] » All right. Now, we'll start with the city administrator report. Uh

[5:15] » yes, no report this evening.

[5:19] And moving on to council member report. Councilman

[5:25] » Thank you. Um I attended the public works open house here right in this room

[5:31] and I learned a lot more about projects including the city projects and the

[5:36] three more roundabouts planned for Cook Road. I also attended the second concert

[5:41] in the park at the Swift Center. Really good attendance, excellent music. The

[5:46] third of these concerts put on by the Swift Center Foundation is with the

[5:50] Scadget Symphony on September 12th, which should be great. I was also

[5:55] delighted to see via an announcement on Facebook of the new school resource

[6:00] officer, Rachel Hamburgg. That should make uh our schools safer. Also, kudos

[6:07] to the police department with several very difficult cases, including taking a

[6:12] murder suspect from Oregon into custody. I know that was an easy situation after

[6:17] a standoff and uh resolving a million-doll fraud case. Really good

[6:22] work. Also, school starts next week, so watch out for children. You should try.

[6:27] Thank you,

[6:31] » Councilman Ly.

[6:35] » Last weekend, we had our annual what do they call those things with the

[6:40] little wheels on them? Anyway, I'm gonna let Carl tell you about it

[6:43] because Carl talked to everybody that was there, but it was a successful

[6:48] weekend and I don't how many we ever figure out how many we've had?

[6:51] » Yeah, we had over a hundred people participate and uh the bleachers were

[6:56] packed. It was standing room only and uh yeah, we'll keep talking about it. Great

[7:01] event, Kevin. >> Good time was had by all

[7:05] we might as well say and provided. Was was that you that bought the pizza,

[7:11] Charlie? >> Um, yeah, this the uh Hidden Wave

[7:15] actually bought the purchased the pizza. Um, but the city is going to reimburse

[7:20] them for that. >> And then Nick bought a couple couple

[7:25] cases full of drinks. What else? Somebody else

[7:30] provided something. >> Well, we had the mayor in attendance and

[7:34] I brought some chips and uh, you know, it's just stone soup. Everyone wanted to

[7:39] come by and really wanted to give a shout out to the fire department for

[7:42] being there to uh staff a booth and talk safety and be there in case there was an

[7:46] incident. >> And they provided helmets.

[7:47] » That's right. That's right. >> For free.

[7:52] » Good time was had by all and we kind of made it up as we went along.

[7:56] » Perfect. Thank you, Councilman Henderson.

[8:00] » Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to start by uh welcoming Officer Nibbo to uh our

[8:05] police department. That's a a great uh role to fill. She did a great job out in

[8:10] Manacortis and I know she she's going to do a great job out here. Uh I'd love to

[8:14] see that. Um last week I had the opportunity of attending the uh grand

[8:20] reopening of the senior center. It was a really great event. Uh a lot of people

[8:24] in attendance. The cake was fantastic. Um and uh I was honored to be uh asked

[8:30] to give a few words at that uh ceremony. Um it was nice to see uh Councilman Cox

[8:37] and Councilman D. Young who's always there every Monday washing dishes in

[8:41] case anybody else wants to help volunteer too. Um alongside of the mayor

[8:45] and uh Charlie Bush and Nate Salcino were both there and they were both

[8:50] recognized for their efforts in uh the opening of uh the senior center and us

[8:55] getting that stood up. So uh great to see that here in our community. Thank

[8:59] you. >> Thank you. All right, Councilman Lvaka.

[9:03] » Thank you very much, Madam Mayor. Um, so on that note, I wanted to touch base on

[9:08] the senior center. I wasn't able to attend that, but since then, I've heard

[9:11] um from a lot of the people that were very eager to see that stood up and and

[9:15] protected. We're very excited about what we've done, what you guys have really

[9:18] done, what Charlie, you have done, and and the um the city. So, it's just a

[9:23] major blessing to them, and they do want that to be continually expressed to the

[9:26] city. Um, we are very stoked that we have a safety resource officer for the

[9:30] the high school. Um, I've gotten really good feedback about that. Great timing

[9:34] on that and and it'll be a great time to to see how that works out over this next

[9:38] year and years to come. Um, and how that integrates with the students, but from

[9:42] what I heard from a number of the students is they're looking forward to

[9:45] it actually. Um, so that's really great. Uh, that's that's about it. Thank you.

[9:50] » Perfect. Councilman Cox,

[9:56] » just a busy time. Oh my goodness. So, so great. I I want to uh talk to my council

[10:01] members here. Mentioning them again. The log jam was great. I brought my kids and

[10:05] to see the interaction of the skaters, uh, everyone that was in charge of, uh,

[10:12] actually putting it on. I I really don't think you just did it by by whim. I

[10:16] think you did a great job, Kevin. Uh it's something that we'll continue to uh

[10:20] visit because it was wonderful. I have an 11 and 12-year-old. I saw so many

[10:24] kids. They they saw friends. Uh and for us personally, that's exactly what I

[10:28] talk about when we're bringing people into our city and we're doing it. It's

[10:31] free. I kept wondering where do I put the money when I was grabbing a slice of

[10:35] pizza. So, thank you for feeding my family as well. So, that was a wonderful

[10:39] thing. We also got a little bit out of that um with some uh minor repairs that

[10:42] we're going to do to the park. So through that we were able to you know

[10:46] better our our environment. I wanted to mention the senior center too as a kid

[10:50] that grew up uh being raised by lots of seniors and being around seniors most of

[10:55] my life. Uh invaluable. So thank you for supporting them. I mean that's a huge

[11:00] thing. There's so much we can learn from our our peers and those that have been

[11:04] here before us. So I really really really enjoyed that. So thank you. Uh

[11:08] other things too just mentioning end of summer school starting. I've been to the

[11:11] Cascade Middle School. excited to see all the kids, the teachers, the

[11:15] resources are great. So, it's very fun for me as a parent uh to see that

[11:19] there's some support going on for those kids. Uh and please, please, anyone

[11:22] watching, pay attention. There's new roundabouts, new roads. Uh we really

[11:26] need to uh make sure they're safe. Okay. Uh the other thing, too, is uh the

[11:31] resource officer. I same thing. Boy, we're investing in our kids and our

[11:36] community. So, let's continue to support these things. I'm enjoying it. Uh, and

[11:41] again, I keep saying that, but just thank you for so much. It's a great I

[11:45] think this is a great week. We're really going into the next season, fall, in a

[11:49] good way. Our city is healthy. The concerts are uh definitely coming back.

[11:54] They're so great. But just uh thank you guys for for those of you that come to

[11:57] join, for those of you online, thank you for joining it. And please share this

[12:00] with your uh family and friends because uh we want this to be a livable city.

[12:05] That's all. Mayor, >> thank you, Councilman D. Young. Thank

[12:09] you, Madam Mayor. Uh, since our last meeting, just a few things to report.

[12:13] Uh, we held the Cedro Woolly log jam at the skate park. Uh, that's been me

[12:19] mentioned. And, uh, I did want to tell one quick story about, uh, a dad who,

[12:27] uh, put his daughter on a skateboard for the first time there. And I was able to

[12:32] capture that moment with the permission and with photograph. But then to dive a

[12:37] little deeper into the story, he was was skateboarding the first day it

[12:43] opened. And so uh I just thought that was just wonderful that we've seen that

[12:48] sustainability and that continuity and uh watch it uh happen uh handed down

[12:54] generation to generation. And that's really what happens at this event is

[12:57] bringing families together. It's kid-friendly event and it really anchors

[13:02] the community. And I really think it's uh I just want to thank thank Kevin for

[13:06] all the hard work he's put into that uh year after year. And um the hard work

[13:11] the city puts together uh Charlie who facilitates uh our meetings. It as you

[13:17] say it it looks smooth but that takes a lot of planning and a lot of people and

[13:21] a lot of passionate people and and you know it's done by volunteers and uh from

[13:26] from the poster to uh the the music that's played um the the microphones uh

[13:34] you know it's just it's just a great way of having the community get together and

[13:39] happy to be part of it. Uh we met again this morning for the event debrief with

[13:43] uh while everything was still fresh and the conversation was really about

[13:47] keeping what worked uh fixing what needs improvement. Uh they already got the

[13:51] potholes fixed that uh we took photographs of so thank you for that and

[13:55] then we also talked about what to do with the coping there and then making

[13:59] next year's event just a little easier uh for everyone involved. Um then uh as

[14:05] a representative on the board for Scadget Transit, I began the onboarding

[14:09] process on on August 18th. We covered governance, finance, operations,

[14:15] planning, and um some of the responsibilities that come with

[14:21] representing Cedar Woolly on the board. Uh there's more to cover, so that work

[14:26] will continue on boarding in September. I also uh participated um in the Scadget

[14:33] Transit meeting uh on the 19th. Uh the board worked through the transit

[14:37] development plan uh community advisory appointments uh fair free service for an

[14:43] upcoming event and proposed bylaws. So, the bylaws were held uh over for some

[14:49] additional review and uh Scadget Transit uh council has invited input from board

[14:55] members before they come back to us and I appreciate having the opportunity to

[14:59] work through those governance questions carefully. Uh looking ahead, I'll be at

[15:03] the Chamber of Commerce uh lunchon next week or next Wednesday. always value the

[15:08] opportunity to hear directly from the local businesses uh community and stay

[15:12] connected with what they're seeing and experiencing here in Cedar Woolly. And

[15:17] of course, Labor Day is coming up on Monday the 7th. Uh there'll be many

[15:22] Labor Day activities. Uh I encourage you to participate. Uh Labor Day is worth

[15:28] more than simply uh marking the end of the summer. It's an opportunity to

[15:32] recognize the people whose work uh builds our communities uh keeps them

[15:38] running and provides the service we all depend on. And I hope everyone has a

[15:42] safe and enjoyable Labor Day weekend. That's it for me.

[15:46] » Perfect. Councilwoman Peterson. >> Um Bill, you put on a really great open

[15:52] house. I you know people are really interested in those road repairs and the

[15:56] different things that are happening with our transportation infrastructure and it

[16:01] was great to see community members who have come to me asking questions to be

[16:06] able to go directly to uh city city staff and wash dot staff to ask ask

[16:13] those questions and get them answered. Everyone was really happy with the it

[16:17] was just really impressive. Um, I also held a community event for W three. Um,

[16:23] one of the participants called it a think tank, which I really liked. As

[16:27] council members, we don't have any staff doing the research to inform our policy

[16:33] decisions. So, it's really helpful to hear directly from constituents. Um, I

[16:38] collected a lot of good feedback. I put it in a spreadsheet and emailed it out

[16:41] to everyone who was willing to give me their email address. Uh the top issues

[16:45] were opposition to move moving the ball fields to the northern state recreation

[16:51] area, good strong community, um developing a future playground on

[16:57] Reed Street, encouraging diversity and inclusivity in the community, road

[17:02] repairs, which everyone learned about at the open house. Um prohibiting data

[17:08] centers, which is actually something we're going to be addressing today. Um,

[17:12] so that was a really good opportunity and I'd like to thank everyone who came

[17:17] and I'm excited to do it again. >> All right, perfect.

[17:23] So, thank you guys all for I'm always last and so you guys had really

[17:29] wonderful things to say about everything going on in the community and I am 100%

[17:34] in agreeance. So, I'm going to just go straight to um the opportunity that I

[17:38] had this week, which was to meet the amazing team at our journey and learn

[17:43] more about the important work they are doing for youth in Scadget County. I'm

[17:48] so grateful to Mr. and Mrs. Sanchez along with their mentors and staff for

[17:52] the heart they put into supporting our young people through mentorship, lived

[17:56] experience, and genuine connection. They are helping youth feel supported, find

[18:00] healing, and build a positive path forward. what they're doing for our

[18:04] kiddos, their families, and our community is truly making a difference.

[18:07] And for those of you who don't know, they're just right across the street,

[18:11] right over here, doing good work. Um, so that's what I have for that.

[18:19] And, um, now we will move on. Be uh, let's see, before I read tonight's

[18:25] proclamation, I want to take a moment to recognize Senator Keith Wagner, who

[18:31] helped bring us to this important first step and uh George Baldridge American

[18:37] Legion Post43 for collaborating with the city as we

[18:41] begin this process of becoming a Purple Heart city. Uh we are also honored to

[18:47] welcome Robert Alz

[18:51] Jr. uh the past national commander of the

[18:56] military order of the purple heart of the USA. Uh most importantly, I want to

[19:01] recognize the Purple Heart recipients who are with us along with all of our

[19:05] veterans and everyone who came here tonight to show their support. Uh

[19:10] becoming a Purple Heart city is not an honor the city earns. It is our

[19:15] commitment to honor those who have been awarded the Purple Heart through their

[19:19] sacrifice and service to our country. And with that, it is my honor to read

[19:25] the Purple Heart City Proclamation. So the city of Cedar Woolly's uh

[19:32] Washington proclamation in recognition of Cedar Woolly as a Purple Heart city.

[19:39] Whereas the city of Cedar Woolly has a proud and enduring tradition of

[19:43] supporting members of the United States Armed Forces, our veterans and their

[19:47] families who have served and sacrificed in defense of the freedoms enjoyed by

[19:52] everyday American. And whereas the Purple Heart Medal is the oldest

[19:57] military decoration in present use, originally created as

[20:03] the badge of military merit by General George Washington in 1782

[20:08] and was the first award made available to the common soldier. And whereas the

[20:14] Purple Heart Medal is awarded in the name of the President of the United

[20:18] States to members of the armed forces of the United States who have been

[20:23] wounded in combat or who have made the ultimate sacrifice and given their lives

[20:28] in action against a declared enemy of the United States of America. And

[20:33] whereas the mission of the military order of the Purple Heart is to foster

[20:38] an environment of goodwill among combat wounded veterans and their families, to

[20:44] promote patriotism, to support legislative initiatives, and to ensure

[20:49] that the sacrifices of our military service members are never forgotten. And

[20:54] whereas the city of Cedar Woolly is home to veterans of every era, including

[21:01] combat wounded veterans and Purple Heart recipients, and recognizes the courage,

[21:07] dedication, and selfless service represented by the Purple Heart Medal.

[21:13] And whereas National Purple Heart Day is observed annually on August 7th to honor

[21:19] the brave men and women who have been wounded or killed while serving in the

[21:23] United States military and to remember and honor all Purple Heart recipients.

[21:29] And whereas the city of Cedar Woolly wishes to express its profound

[21:34] appreciation, gratitude, and respect for all military veterans, combat veterans,

[21:40] Purple Heart recipients, and the families who support them, and to

[21:44] formally join the growing number of communities standing as Purple Heart

[21:48] cities. Now therefore, be it proclaimed that I, Joel and Casty, as mayor of the

[21:54] city of Cedar Woolly, do hereby recognize the city of Cedar Woolly as a

[21:59] Purple Heart City, honoring the service and sacrifice of all members of the

[22:04] United States Armed Forces who have been wounded or killed in combat and

[22:09] recognizing all Purple Heart recipients, past, present, and future, together with

[22:14] the families who supported them. Be it further resolved that the city of Cedar

[22:18] Woolly calls upon its residents, businesses, schools, and civic

[22:23] organizations to recognize the contributions and sacrifices of Purple

[22:28] Heart recipients and the courage they have shown in defense of our nation.

[22:33] Observe National Purple Heart Day on August 7th each year throughout

[22:38] appropriate ceremonies, educational programs, and acts of remembrance.

[22:43] support combat wounded veterans, their families, and gold star families through

[22:48] committee community engagement and service. Promote awareness of the

[22:54] history and meaning of the Purple Heart Medal among all generations of Cedar

[22:58] Willy residents. Show all Purple Heart recipients the lasting honor, gratitude,

[23:03] and welcome they have earned in our community. Proclaimed by the mayor on

[23:08] the 26th day of August 2026, city of Cedar Woolly.

[23:16] [applause]

[23:22] [applause]

[23:28] » [applause]

[23:30] » And with that, I invite um Robert to come forward.

[23:42] » Bet you guys all thought Let me uh if you turn that one

[23:48] microphone around, the one in front. >> Yep. And then press the blue button. Um

[23:53] on behalf on behalf of the military or the Purple Heart, we'd like to say thank

[23:57] you for appreciating our combat wounded veterans. There's actually we have

[24:01] accounted for about a little over 16,000 here in Washington. Cedra Woolly. I went

[24:06] through the books and you guys have five that are living. You have about 20 that

[24:11] are deceased. As Scadget County accounts for a little over 120 total. Um I do not

[24:17] live in Scadget County, but I grew up in Scadget County. I graduated from Mount

[24:21] Vernon back in the 90s, like my kids say, back in the 1900s. Um, but I am

[24:26] actually the youngest person to date to run an organization. So, I represented

[24:30] half a million combat wounded veterans all the way from the last guys of World

[24:35] War II up until present. So, I got to meet both presidents, talk on our

[24:39] behalf. So, this this meant a lot for me. Actually, when you messaged

[24:43] National, which is our headquarters in DC, I got a phone call telling telling

[24:48] them telling me that I was dropping the ball. I was like, I'm on vacation. Leave

[24:51] me alone. That's when I found out that you reached out. So, I appreciate it. I

[24:55] actually grew up in Mount Vernon, but I was born out in Woodby on the base. I do

[24:58] come from a military family. So, with that, um, our our organization, um,

[25:04] appreciates you, um, honoring us. Um, I've been working at making all of

[25:08] Washington cities and counties purple heart uh cities and counties. So, I'm

[25:13] I'm happy to acknowledge that Cedra Woolly is the first one in Scadget

[25:17] County. So, I've been talking to the Saga County Commissioners

[25:22] uh working with them to get the county going and hopefully everybody will

[25:26] follow suit and notice that Cedar Woolly is leading the way so I can get all the

[25:31] towns here um just to honor our veterans. We don't ask for much, but one

[25:35] little signage or a proclamation showing that you honor a combat wounded goes a

[25:40] long way. It actually helps them out with their mental status. They actually

[25:44] see that they're probably helping the community and then they have to take

[25:47] next step to reaching out to either a veteran organization or to your law

[25:52] enforcement agency who has train on how to deescalate and talk to people and try

[25:57] to bring them back what to what I call the ground level. So, we appreciate it.

[26:00] On behalf of uh chapter 12, wait, we changed our name. The Pacific Northwest

[26:05] chapter 12, uh we have a Purple Heart flag for you guys to fly every August

[26:10] 7th to take up. Um and if you want a fancier one, we got the fancier ones. I

[26:15] just have these ones in the car because it's easier to carry a lighter flag. So,

[26:20] um on behalf of all Purple Heart recipients, thank you.

[26:23] » Thank you.

[26:35] Mayor, could I interrupt? >> Yes.

[26:37] » Can Can we put some kind of plaque or something entering under entering town?

[26:41] It says we're a Purple Heart City. >> That is such a good idea.

[26:44] » So, I I did email your your your mayor here.

[26:49] There there is signage that I authorized and I gave her authorization. um because

[26:54] you need authorization to use our likeness which is our purple heart

[26:57] medal. So, she has an example of the signs that we have here in Washington

[27:01] that you guys can put wherever you want. City hall, most cities like to put them

[27:05] on the entrance as you're coming in. >> Yeah.

[27:08] » And which is really big for a lot of people. And also with this once I get

[27:13] your official proclamation emailed, I'll put it on our website, which is the

[27:17] Purple Heart Trail. So everybody who uh goes through it'll see that Cedar Woolly

[27:21] is a Purple Heart friendly town and that's how we help you with tourism is

[27:27] we actually have a lot of hits on our website to see people actually do look

[27:31] veterans actually do look to see who appreciates military and we're not

[27:35] asking for discounts. It's just if we come here we'll know we're accepted

[27:39] especially whichever era you fought in. So, it's a big thing for us and and

[27:44] another thing for y'all to have new tourism when you when you guys put up

[27:47] the signs and we put you guys up on our Purple Heart Trail.

[27:51] » Thank you so much and thank you for your service.

[27:54] » Madam Mayor, if I may, on that note, too. Oh, go

[27:57] » one second. We will be um having a um a ceremony uh officially dedicating when

[28:03] the signs do come in and that is going to be planned uh in early November. So,

[28:08] we will be able to do that. And um uh before I open it up to council for

[28:14] everything, can I also be able I know um to have uh Senator Wagner come up as

[28:20] well um to say a few words.

[28:26] » So um it's I played a very small piece in this, but I'm glad that you asked me

[28:33] to speak about it because I feel strongly about it. I went to a ceremony

[28:37] in my in my legislative district in Granite Falls and I saw their ceremony

[28:42] and I went, "Wow, this is something that fits with the community of Cedar Woolly

[28:47] and I pitched the idea to Mayor Casty because I knew the council would be

[28:52] behind her on this. I did not think you would move so quickly. I was thinking

[28:57] maybe six months or a year from now we would be doing this, but bam um almost

[29:03] immediately. So, I'm really excited about it and I and I wanted to talk

[29:07] about at least one of the members and maybe Councilman Lvaka can go into it a

[29:12] little more detail. Um, one of our Purple Heart members from town uh had

[29:18] breakfast with Councilman Lvaka, Mayor Casty, and myself because he was so

[29:23] excited about this, but he was going to be um he had a medical procedure and he

[29:27] and his wife couldn't make it tonight. I hope they make the official one. So,

[29:32] it's already inspiring people that that we're hoping to honor and I feel really

[29:37] good about that. So, the the credit goes to the mayor and the council for getting

[29:42] this off the ground so quickly. I so appreciate all of you. Thank you.

[29:47] » You um

[29:53] and and then on on the the spirit of this, a very special man, Tim Smith. uh

[30:02] made his own. Would you like to come up and speak about it before?

[30:08] Handcarved. >> Yeah, I handcarved it. I had in my heart

[30:12] to do this and for all my brothers and sisters that

[30:16] earned it.

[30:25] [applause]

[30:32] Thank you so much. >> Oh, you're very welcome. Wish I could do

[30:34] more. >> Oh, you this. Thank you so much for this

[30:38] because uh we are going to hang this up in city hall. It's going to be right

[30:42] next to the proclamation and it is absolutely gorgeous.

[30:46] » Thank you.

[30:50] » Very welcome. >> Thank you so much.

[30:51] » Yes, ma'am. >> Thank you. [applause]

[30:55] Sure.

[31:06] » All right. And now we'll open it up. Council Labaka.

[31:10] » Thank you very much. Yeah. Trying to find the right time to to mention. I

[31:13] didn't want to spoil it during the council report, but um my neighbor who's

[31:18] become my good friend down the road on Ball Street. He's 86 years old. He

[31:22] received a Purple Heart in Vietnam in the 178th and um he like Senator Wagner

[31:28] mentioned he was really excited about the city taking in part in doing that

[31:33] and seeing us really active and engaged for the the efforts and the sacrifice

[31:39] that he and and many of the people that were with him gave. And so he wasn't

[31:44] able to make it. And I ended up calling up Senator Wagner and the mayor and

[31:48] seeing, "Are you guys willing to come down for breakfast on short notice and

[31:52] just have breakfast with them?" And you guys dropped everything and came down

[31:55] and had breakfast with him. I mean, really amazing that you were willing to

[31:59] do that. And it meant so much to him. I'm proud to report that he he made it

[32:03] through the surgery just fine and um he did good. It was an invasive surgery, so

[32:07] it was a little bit difficult and we didn't know how it was going to go, but

[32:10] he seems like he's doing good right now. So, we'll see. And thank you both again.

[32:14] Thank you for putting that together. He's an extraordinary man and I look

[32:17] forward to seeing him in November at our ceremony. Uh I'll open it up to any

[32:23] other council members who might have any questions or anything.

[32:28] » Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um I just want

[32:32] to take a minute and recognize uh all all the additional people in the crowd

[32:35] that um support our veterans and Purple Heart members. I see we have um uh

[32:41] George Baldridge uh post here. Um have many others. I recognize John Fernandez

[32:48] there in the back. Thank you for your service, sir. And uh and everyone else

[32:53] who uh who was a part of this. And that's the most beautiful hand carving

[32:57] I've ever seen. >> So, thank you very much for that.

[33:05] » Councilwoman Peterson. >> Thank you, Tim. This is really amazing.

[33:09] I've never seen anything like this before and I'm really looking forward to

[33:13] the ceremony in November. I'm hoping I can get that on my calendar soon.

[33:20] » Councilman >> uh, first of all, wonderful carving.

[33:24] Just it's beautiful. Thank you so much. And I don't think we can do enough to

[33:30] help and support our veterans and our community. And the best of the best are

[33:36] our Purple Heart recipients who gave everything just about for our country.

[33:42] So I la their patriotism. Thank you.

[33:48] » Would it be inappropriate if I could get us to go down there and get a picture

[33:54] with everyone who's in here who came tonight to um do this? Could we could we

[34:00] get a photograph of everyone? Would everyone be all right with that?

[34:10] He's got it. >> This one.

[34:30] » Get home and start practicing.

[34:35] » [clears throat]

[34:46] » Everybody >> come on.

[34:59] Everybody

[35:14] » know. [laughter]

[35:39] They'll know when they get to see us

[35:54] represents all the combat veterans.

[36:04] Normally it's like a little piece of paper.

[36:08] Did I give you one?

[36:17] » But I'm like the guy organization. So when I walked in President Trump,

[36:23] where's your young

[36:30] depends on when you guys

[37:01] Yeah, good call. >> That's amazing.

[37:48] We'll wait for >> Oh, I like that. Good job.

[37:56] » No, that's fine. >> Absolutely. It's a celebration. This is

[38:00] a wonderful thing.

[38:05] Once again, thank you to all the veterans who are out there and um who

[38:09] are out online as well and serving in our community and across the states. Um

[38:15] now we will uh move on to public comments and I don't have the

[38:23] sheet in front of me. So what I'll do is if um if anyone wants to come up and

[38:28] give public comment, please uh come up. We uh

[38:34] we'll see if anybody

[38:42] Okay, sweet. Will you take that baby

[38:46] microphone then and put it right back up there? Thank you.

[38:53] I appreciate you, Andrew.

[39:01] I wasn't planning on uh coming up here to uh complain two weeks in a row about

[39:05] the same thing, but I forgot a few things and now I have a Q card.

[39:10] » I love it. >> Do that again. But uh last week I

[39:13] brought up all the trashy signs around the city that basically pop up ads and

[39:20] uh kind of forgot to elaborate more about it, why I hate them so much, but

[39:25] there's a a thing called the the broken window effect or the broken window

[39:29] theory. I won't explain it all. You can Google it. But basically, when you hold

[39:35] no standard, you enforce no standard. the neighbors

[39:40] screen windows are falling out of their house. Their gutters are falling off.

[39:44] The next neighbor doesn't mow their lawn. The next neighbor,

[39:49] you know, has broken down lawnmowers in their front yard. They kind of just

[39:54] every the whole neighborhood go down goes downhill. Uh that's kind of how I

[39:59] feel about these signs. A perfect example would be the Cook Road by I5

[40:03] intersection. You got weeds four feet tall. Every

[40:07] single power pole has about three signs on it saying, "Uh, we buy your house for

[40:11] cash. Got usually one or two pan handlers."

[40:17] That's because no one no one cares. No one cleans it up. Uh,

[40:23] today I took down another 41 signs in about an hour just in the normal routes

[40:30] that I take on a daily basis. I didn't dump them on the floor this time. I just

[40:35] brought one that you know Ron Burgundy would say uh stay classy Cedar Willie.

[40:42] » I've noticed it for about a month, but right here it was on uh June 19th it's

[40:47] been up and I took it down today just right on Highway 20 or I guess I should

[40:52] say stay classy 708 Ferry Street. But uh

[41:00] yeah, that's I mean it just kind of brings everything down. Um,

[41:06] you know, we got codes about these things. You know, chapter 17.40. I'm not

[41:11] going to try to read it, but it's pretty simple that you can't just plop a sign

[41:18] wherever you feel like. I mean, if you want to put a sign on your own property,

[41:22] your own building that you own, you got to listen to a high council of people

[41:26] that lecture you about the size of your sign, the size of the letters on your

[41:30] sign, if the colors coordinate with your sign. But, you know, we just let these

[41:36] things go everywhere. I mean, there's there's a lot of city employees, not

[41:40] just code enforcement, that drive a truck that says the city of Cedari on

[41:43] the side of it that mow the lawn or paint stripes on the road. It wouldn't

[41:49] be that difficult to just pick one up and put it behind the seat and throw it

[41:52] in the garbage. I mean, I'm happy to just keep on taking them down. I'm I'm

[41:56] sure I'm sure all the the businesses would like to have them back. Maybe I'll

[42:01] ransom them. ransom their signs, but uh you know they're only worth about a

[42:06] buck. That's why they leave them everywhere. Nobody nobody abandons a

[42:10] $100 A-frame sign. >> That's

[42:15] » the Emmy the Emmys are playing me off. But uh anyways, yeah, it just uh

[42:21] maybe just I plan on harping about city beautifification for the next couple

[42:26] months. Hope this will be the last time about signs, but uh you know, a a little

[42:30] bit of cleanliness goes a long ways to making people not think this is a dump

[42:36] to live. So, >> thank you, Andrew.

[42:41] Is there anybody else who didn't sign up but might want to speak?

[42:46] » All right. Um then, um Thomas, do you see anybody online?

[42:53] Uh if anyone online would like to make a public comment, go ahead and use the

[42:57] raise hands feature. We'll wait a few seconds for everyone who wants to and if

[43:01] there's anyone will speak.

[43:12] » All right. Hearing

[43:15] » uh I'm not seeing anyone using that feature.

[43:18] » Okay, perfect. Then we will uh go on to our new business.

[43:25] Um, and since Kelly's not here, we'll we'll

[43:29] take it to you, Charlie. >> Yep. First item here is resolution

[43:32] 118626. It's donation acceptance from the

[43:35] Burlington Senior Center Advisory Board. Uh, this is a unsolicited u donation

[43:42] that we received from the uh folks in Burlington and their senior center

[43:45] advisory board. They're a nonprofit that uh works with the senior centers. Uh we

[43:49] have we have one here in Cedar Woolly as well. Uh we hired the uh Burlington

[43:54] coordinator from their senior center and we have seen some resources uh coming

[43:58] along with her. Uh and and it's been fantastic. This particular donation uh

[44:03] is for $5,000 to help us with our IT needs to essentially um fully network

[44:09] the uh the building. uh and and we have uh needed to do that because the county

[44:16] previously was operating the building and so the county had its IT

[44:18] infrastructure in there. They're in the process of pulling that out. Now we've

[44:21] got work to do to to make sure that we connect the building. So that is the

[44:25] nature of this. I got a request earlier today whether these were federal funds.

[44:30] Um no indication these are federal funds. Uh this is nonprofit money. I

[44:34] believe it's all local money. We'll verify all of that before we certainly

[44:38] uh spend anything. But uh yeah, that's what this is. It's $5,000. It was

[44:42] unexpected. We didn't apply for it or anything. And uh it's an opportunity to

[44:46] uh benefit our senior center further.

[44:51] » Uh Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um it it's also worth

[44:57] noting uh when I was at the senior center the other day, they had um they

[45:01] had a second check that the Burlington advisory uh senior advisory board was uh

[45:07] donating to the Cedar Woolly uh senior center advisory board. So they're um

[45:13] they're really enthusiastic and have a vested interest in making sure that uh

[45:17] you know we're uh successful with this endeavor for our seniors. Uh really

[45:22] great to see. Um, uh, I just wanted to, uh, wanted to

[45:29] thank them, uh, for this very incredibly generous donation. Um, from what I

[45:35] understand, these are uh all of the money that their uh nonprofit has, they

[45:41] raise in local fundraisers and uh do do fundraising and um they actually invest

[45:47] their money very wisely in um putting it in CDs in the bank and uh highinterest

[45:53] uh uh sa uh savings accounts so they can actually uh grow their money and they'll

[45:58] have it to spend when they need on uh programs and uh other such things. So,

[46:03] um, I'm I'm very grateful to see this and I'm very excited to vote yes on this

[46:08] resolution. >> All right. Oh, Councilwoman Peterson,

[46:14] » I'd also like to express our gratitude that this just so generous for our

[46:19] neighboring city to um provide this as we're transitioning our senior center.

[46:25] So, this is really great to see and thanks so much.

[46:30] » All right. If uh no one has any other questions or comments, I'd be looking

[46:36] for a motion to approve resolution 1186-26

[46:41] accepting a donation of 5,000 from the Burlington Senior Center Advisory Board.

[46:45] » I'll make that motion. >> I'll second.

[46:47] » All right. So, um Twinning, um we'll give the uh motion to Councilman uh

[46:57] seconded by Councilman Henderson. All those in favor signify by saying I.

[47:01] » I. >> Any opposed? Same sign. Motion passes.

[47:08] » All right. Now we will move on to ordinance 2113-26

[47:14] temporary moratorum on data centers. >> Yes. And I do not see Tom Glover here.

[47:21] So I would I'm going to see if he is in the building. But uh in the meantime,

[47:25] it'd be helpful, mayor, if we could move down the agenda.

[47:29] » Would that be all? >> I could take this one, Charlie.

[47:31] » Oh, >> okay. Oh, thank you, Dan.

[47:32] » Thanks. >> Go ahead,

[47:33] » lawyer Dan to save the day. >> Uh good evening, mayor and council. Um

[47:38] so, we scheduled these moratoria, this and the following item on the agenda um

[47:44] for first review tonight uh to be followed by a public hearing and

[47:48] recommended action at the following meeting. Um

[47:53] most jurisdictions who pass similar moratoria um and there's been quite a

[47:57] few have done so by simply using the emergency provision approving the

[48:02] ordinance without a hearing and then scheduling a hearing at a later date.

[48:07] Um, I recommend uh what I'm calling the uh belt and suspenders approach here,

[48:12] which um both of these uh moratoria ordinances contain both emergency

[48:18] language and opportunity for a first read by council as well as a concurrent

[48:24] public hearing um which we'll have um at the next meeting

[48:29] um following this first read um should council decide. Um and there are several

[48:36] reasons for that. Um one is the reason for an application sneaking in and

[48:40] getting past the moratorium is very low in this case. Um only complete invested

[48:45] applications get past the prohibition. Um which you'll see in the whereas

[48:50] statements in uh this and the following moratorum. Um

[48:56] and that just won't happen in two weeks. Um and there are no pending applications

[49:00] at this time. Um the second reason is this is a clean and orderly way um to do

[49:07] it by holding a public hearing while the items are on the agenda um as opposed to

[49:12] passing it now um and then having to track the 60-day requirement for holding

[49:17] a public hearing later. Um finally um and this is uh really beneficial um the

[49:25] first read gives us time uh to perform due diligence um and quality control. Uh

[49:32] and so with that I did receive some questions throughout the week um from

[49:38] council members. Um and the one that I'd really like to touch on here at the top

[49:43] uh was from uh Carl D. young and uh >> he asked about the term major data

[49:50] center uh which does not yet have an objective threshold. Um and so I would

[49:55] just like to say that is the central issue. Um that's really a big reason why

[50:00] we need the time um that this moratorum buys us. Um I attended an MRSC training

[50:07] uh on this subject yesterday with city administrators and planning directors

[50:12] from uh various cities all around Washington. All of which have imposed uh

[50:18] these moratoria and the central issue discussed by all in attendance was the

[50:25] lack of an objective definition. And the issue is drawing a clear line which is

[50:30] neither over or underinclusive.

[50:34] Um there are things that we don't want to exclude but there are things that we

[50:38] want to make sure to cover. Uh and that is the issue of the day. Now that

[50:43] doesn't mean uh that we can't draw that line clearly as it applies to our city.

[50:49] So, that's why I wanted to have a first read tonight and then um maybe make

[50:55] suggested changes in the upcoming two weeks and present it for um recommended

[51:01] action at the next meeting. So, with that, I can take questions.

[51:07] » Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um I I am in

[51:12] support of doing this. Uh obviously we want to get everything uh all buttoned

[51:19] up and have everything uh ready to go for our next meeting. Um but we we do

[51:25] need the time to get this uh in our code. Um, and we need the time to do it

[51:31] right and like you said, identify all of the uh

[51:36] all of [clears throat] the definitions of what the different um uh data centers

[51:41] are and what we can and can't allow. Um, I did have a question about um I know I

[51:49] know that the county uh did something similar to this. Are are we covered at

[51:54] all under their moratorum or is that just for strictly county outside of

[52:00] Woolly proper? >> Their moratorum only covers

[52:02] unincorporated areas. >> Okay.

[52:05] So, we'll most likely need to do this. Thank you.

[52:10] » Correct. If we want that same coverage, we'll have to pass our own.

[52:14] » Okay. Thanks. Yep. I I'm in support of that.

[52:17] » Councilman C. >> Uh yes, I'm also in support of this. Uh

[52:21] these data centers are not very appropriate for Scadget Valley in my

[52:26] opinion. Um they are delletterious to the water electric

[52:34] electricity environmental concerns. Uh my only

[52:39] question and I appreciate you talking about the definition because I think

[52:44] it's very important that we don't create problems for our existing industries and

[52:50] businesses uh with this definition. So, um I think that's going to be very

[52:56] important, but I'm all for this and I think it's smart to get it done so

[53:00] somebody doesn't sneak in under the wire. Thank you.

[53:03] » Thank you, Councilman Lavaka. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um I I guess

[53:10] my question is more about why not do data centers right so we have um large

[53:17] data centers that are enormous and of course that is a huge concern throughout

[53:22] the nation of course um but there are data centers there are AI usages that

[53:27] have been happening I think most people have that on their phone they're using

[53:30] it in their computers they're using it in the the governance bodies um we are

[53:36] in a situation where there are competing nations, not just competing industries

[53:41] that are looking for dominance in the AI industry. Um, and I'm not opposed to

[53:47] putting on a moratorum because it's a limited time. It gives time to evaluate

[53:50] what size of data center, how much compute is going to be involved in that,

[53:54] what the resources used are. It's still unclear. Most of them are are told they

[53:59] have to have their own power centers as well. So energy kind of gets absorbed in

[54:03] that. But with AI, they got more advanced magentic coding and they're

[54:07] creating um agent models that have sub aent models. And so I believe what

[54:13] you'll end up seeing isn't that we'll have a lot of different AI centers or AI

[54:19] um programs, but we'll have eventually narrowing it down to one ultimately or

[54:24] maybe just a few ultimately. Um Duck.Go, is that a viable search engine? you

[54:30] know, Google is the dominance in that and you're not really going to

[54:33] necessarily replace that dominant search engine. Um, eventually AI models for

[54:38] whatever reason and I don't know why, but they are they are um they do not

[54:45] want to be shut down. Now, that's part of the coding and I do think it's

[54:48] predictive coding. I don't think they're sentient in any ways, but they do fight

[54:52] that getting shut down and they do that through through uh trying to appease the

[54:56] user. They do it through blackmail to the coders. They do it through a number

[55:00] of sources and as they realize maybe Grock is becoming better than JG GBT and

[55:06] now you got this competing thing going on and I don't mean to get into all the

[55:09] rabbit trails of these data centers but the more that we have this thing

[55:13] throughout the nation which is probably justifiably so anti-data centers there

[55:18] are other countries that are producing data centers at alarming rates and

[55:23] eventually um the AI would be capable of enormous those hacking abilities which

[55:31] we're already seeing them doing to themselves but also with with government

[55:34] bodies and banking systems. So I would like to make it clear I'm not opposed to

[55:38] seeing some advancements in that. I do not want to see mega data centers in any

[55:43] way but there's different levels of compute that's needed and there's

[55:46] different levels that most right now they're seeing that they're not even

[55:50] using as much. But it should be considered what is the purpose of the AI

[55:54] data center. It's completely different than best. It's completely different

[55:57] than a battery station. is completely different than lithium. It does use a

[56:01] lot of water regardless I believe in my opinion from what they say and other

[56:04] resources, but there's got to be thought versus just saying, "Hey, we're against

[56:08] it completely because it's it's the thing going on right now." That's my

[56:13] personal opinion. >> Thank you, Councilwoman Peterson.

[56:17] » Um I'm in broadly in support of this. I do

[56:22] think um Nick's points and uh Carl's question are really important and I

[56:28] think it'd be helpful for me as a council member to have maybe a

[56:33] presentation uh before the next uh read to kind of see what are the different

[56:41] what is a major data center and where is that threshold what are the purpose

[56:46] what's the what's the purpose of the data center if that's included in the uh

[56:51] morator torium and that kind of thing. I think it would be helpful to have like a

[56:54] presentation about it to the council.

[56:58] » Councilman D. Young. >> Uh Dan, thank you so much. Um I

[57:04] appreciated your explanation about the emergency uh language and um so I think

[57:10] going through this process is uh appropriate uh through the normal

[57:14] council process since there's nothing uh emergent or a pending application. Um

[57:21] I I support the need for temporary breathing room while making sure that

[57:26] the temporary ordinance itself does not unintentionally reach uh ordinary IT

[57:31] facilities. We used to call these server farms uh that we're looking at. Um but

[57:36] we just want to make sure that um a company here in Wally that might have a

[57:42] certain density of servers just for their own operations doesn't get

[57:45] unintentionally caught up in this. Uh my other question is this is going to be a

[57:50] six-month moratorum uh with the possibility of of an extension of

[57:54] another six months. Uh what are we going to be doing with that time as to land

[57:59] use? Uh what toward our comprehensive plan? Uh what what are the um

[58:05] deliverables that we uh should see as a council at the end of the six months for

[58:10] us to say uh yes the work has been done. And this is why we've had the moratorum

[58:15] moratorum and we can show that effort and show the folks that who are going to

[58:22] do it the cedar woolly way. Thank you.

[58:28] » I think uh for answers on that one I will defer to Tom uh now that he's back.

[58:32] Um he does have a plan and now that we're in the implementation phase of our

[58:36] comprehensive plan I think we're we're better able to answer that question.

[58:42] Thank you, [clears throat] Dan. Yeah, Tom Glover, community development

[58:45] director. So, we don't have all the specifics hammered out yet, but what uh

[58:49] we would like to do is take a look at what our comprehensive plan says in

[58:53] terms of policies that may relate to this. Um, I like your idea of a

[58:58] presentation. This probably not a presentation I would make because I'm

[59:01] not an expert on data centers, but other other councils out there have had like

[59:06] presentations. I'm sure it would be a matter of calling around and seeing if

[59:10] there's an expert out there that could help us with that. Um, so what I'd like

[59:14] to do over the next six months is is get out our get out our plan and and our

[59:18] policies and see how other um agencies and organizations have handled this um

[59:23] and come up with something that looks like it fits Cedar Woolly. Um

[59:28] [clears throat] that because it would be a code amendment, it would go to

[59:31] planning commission first so I get their input before coming to you with a

[59:34] recommendation. That that all would happen. um after the second read once

[59:38] the moratorium's in place unless we do a presentation beforehand. I need to talk

[59:42] with Charlie about that. But yeah, so [clears throat]

[59:45] » Councilman Ly, >> I'm not for it or against it, but I

[59:50] think it'd be the prudent thing to do the moratorum and discover what the heck

[59:54] it really is because I don't know what it is.

[59:58] » Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um yeah, I I'm

[1:00:03] I'm kind of with Councilman Ly on this. I'm not I'm not against, you know,

[1:00:08] companies having their own stuff. I I I think we all know what we don't want to

[1:00:13] see here. Um it it's a picture in everybody's mind, but what that picture

[1:00:19] is um as far as Dan was talking about needs to be defined um in in our code.

[1:00:26] Um but it it would be helpful to see like what this moratorum exactly would

[1:00:33] be um protecting the city against for applications and

[1:00:40] not to say we would have a company that was like well you know we need to add

[1:00:44] like you know 12 servers to our building so we can have our internet and all of

[1:00:50] our uh you know CAD software and everything else like that run. and the

[1:00:54] city says, "Well, no, you can't do that because there that's not what we're

[1:00:58] trying to do, I don't think." So, um, so the the moratorium is going to be

[1:01:03] important as to define like more of a utility scale thing, I I would imagine

[1:01:10] is what we'd be going after. And then um and then uh defining that. Uh but it's

[1:01:17] important to have that that definition when we do our final code. I think I but

[1:01:23] I don't I don't want to hose any businesses, you know, coming into this

[1:01:28] because economic development is important to us, too. So, um but I I

[1:01:33] think when you say data center, everybody has a picture in their mind of

[1:01:36] what we're talking about. So, >> yeah, I thank you. Those are those are

[1:01:41] good points. Um, like I said, we do need to dive into

[1:01:45] this and and take a look at examples of of ordinances that are working that are

[1:01:49] allowing the um that are not preventing economic development opportunities from

[1:01:55] happening. Um, we looked we looked at Scadget County's ordinance and borrowed

[1:02:00] that for our base and they did have a a size I think it was up to 2,000 square

[1:02:07] feet could be allowed and a certain kilowatt. But in talking with Dan, we

[1:02:12] don't have we can't nail those numbers down because we don't personally know we

[1:02:16] don't have that experience to know if that's too big, too small, what

[1:02:20] » you know. So those are things we want to look at. And then also what came up one

[1:02:24] time in a staff meeting is somebody mentioned that there are now uh

[1:02:28] individual type you I don't know if you guys mentioned this, but there are

[1:02:31] individual type units that are about the size of your your um HVAC unit that's

[1:02:36] outside your window um that people are looking at as well. And so, um, that to

[1:02:42] me sounds like an entirely different kind of animal, but does the same thing.

[1:02:46] I don't know. I don't want to I don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot, but

[1:02:49] I want to make sure that if these do come to town that we're ready for um for

[1:02:54] how to manage them, >> Councilman Lvaka.

[1:02:58] » Thank you, Madam Mayor. Yeah. Um, I really don't think that we'll ever see

[1:03:03] some of these data centers that come to our mind. They're they're bigger than

[1:03:06] our central bis business district and they use an enormous amount of

[1:03:10] electricity is what their plan for. A lot of them have dissolved. A lot of the

[1:03:13] planning firm is dissolved. Um and so I I wouldn't say that that's necessarily

[1:03:18] would be our our uh challenge. And so having that if we can get a presentation

[1:03:23] education, what would that look like for our communities? I definitely wouldn't

[1:03:26] want to see banning some, you know, HVAC unit out somebody's, you know, home or

[1:03:30] their business or something like that. I think that's going too far. Um, some

[1:03:34] server stations are the size of conxes, maybe, you know, a small house. We've

[1:03:38] seen that before. Those have been around since the 90s and they continue to grow.

[1:03:42] Um, and I just I think that when we when we think data center, we almost think

[1:03:47] like this giant data center like what we're seeing in some of the other areas,

[1:03:50] which just isn't realistic for our area. So, I I'm in favor of the moratorum

[1:03:55] here. I don't think we're going to see I mean, putting in some some square

[1:03:58] footage. I think 2,000 feet. I mean, think about that. That's like not really

[1:04:02] a lot of of square footage. Um I would imagine something like 50,000 square

[1:04:07] feet or something like that as far as a footprint of space, but putting on

[1:04:11] limits within the community because it's a small community. There's 13,000

[1:04:14] people, small square mileage, but it it draws into that fear stuff of basically

[1:04:20] data [snorts] center evil. We must, you know, annihilate throughout everywhere.

[1:04:24] I mean, it's it's around many estates. I've been hearing this and my question

[1:04:28] goes to who's benefiting from from that because there's other nations that are

[1:04:33] not slowing down. [laughter] So, and I'm not saying that we should build up in

[1:04:37] different areas and I don't think it would affect our community, but maybe we

[1:04:40] can do an educational presentation in the next six months um as we pass that

[1:04:44] through. >> Councilman K.

[1:04:47] » Uh yes. I just I think it's really important that we reach out to our

[1:04:52] industrial u companies in town as this is going

[1:04:56] through to see what would affect them. I mean that would address many of the

[1:04:59] questions that have been raised here. Um Councilman Lvaka is right. The uh the

[1:05:05] whole uh data center uh AI revolution is moving very rapidly. Um I heard an inter

[1:05:13] interesting interview with the CEO of Anthropic and he was talking about uh

[1:05:18] data data centers in space. So, you know, it's it's a fastmoving thing and

[1:05:24] we also don't want to preclude companies that are doing research that need heavy

[1:05:30] compute time um on site and I'm not only thinking of like Janicki and Seedum, but

[1:05:36] maybe you know somebody that comes in that wants to do some uh biomed stuff up

[1:05:41] at the innovation center. So I think we want to be careful on this because we

[1:05:46] don't want to scare away small highly innovative but my concern with the data

[1:05:52] centers is that they disproportionately across the United States the uh

[1:05:58] hyperscala scalers Meta and Google etc who are planning to spend I believe I

[1:06:04] have this right a combined 700 billion dollars on data centers this year that

[1:06:09] getting those hyperscalers to pay They're, you know, we'll probably never

[1:06:15] see one in Scadget County. I can't imagine a place anywhere in this county

[1:06:19] that's big enough, though they would be very incentivized by the Scadget River.

[1:06:25] » Um, that's why they put the uh um a nuclear development site during World

[1:06:31] War II on the Colombia River. They needed the water. But, you know, I I'm

[1:06:36] not a big fan of the concept. Um though Councilman Lvaka said Saudi Arabia is

[1:06:41] going hard for them. They're going to probably get some nuclear reactors to

[1:06:45] power them. So it's it's a fastmoving thing and but I just want to protect

[1:06:50] Cedral Woolly and protect our businesses who won't be adversely affected and I do

[1:06:55] appreciate the con the the the difficulty of arriving at a uh a

[1:07:02] definition that must have been attempted across the country because people have

[1:07:05] been banning them right and left. So, a little more research and talking to

[1:07:11] people who've dealt with them like we've, you know, when we contacted

[1:07:16] people who had to deal with municipalities who had to deal with

[1:07:19] best, how did they deal with it and it helped. So, thank you,

[1:07:24] » Madam Mayor. If >> um I'm going to go to um Councilman Cox

[1:07:28] first and then we'll go to you. >> Mine will be nice and quick. Uh again, I

[1:07:32] want to make informed decisions. So, if that is possible to get other

[1:07:36] municipalities on board to hear what they've done in the past, I think it's a

[1:07:40] great idea from Councilman uh Person there. Uh it's yeah, we don't want to be

[1:07:45] afraid of it. So, that's that's my view on it. Uh I'm neither for it or against

[1:07:49] it. I do not want to exclude something that can help us out and uh this might

[1:07:54] be something that it's a minor thing and we could be pushing more than one person

[1:07:57] out in the future. So, thank you for all the work that this will take.

[1:08:02] Councilman Lvaka, >> I just uh because I I work at Janicki

[1:08:06] and I just really want to avoid any rumor mills that go on. Janicki does not

[1:08:10] produce AI. They're not like [laughter] it's advanced technologies, but it's

[1:08:14] building components for planes or or boats or other vessels. They don't they

[1:08:19] don't have server farms. They're not doing AI. So to avoid rumor mill from

[1:08:23] spreading through the community, you know, they that's not what they do.

[1:08:29] Those are data centers that are placed

[1:08:32] throughout the country in different locations. We don't need to have a data

[1:08:35] center to use a cloud. Yeah. [laughter] >> All right. Councilwoman Peterson,

[1:08:40] » I just wanted to add uh Council Member mentioned reaching out to um

[1:08:46] businesses and industry and I'm thinking about, you know, I think we're all

[1:08:50] really proud of the innovation we have here in Cedar Woolly. We don't want to

[1:08:53] do anything to uh hinder local innovation in town. And we have the I

[1:09:00] wonder if the Northwest Innovation Center would have any resources [music]

[1:09:04] or um be able to speak to potential impacts in that area as well.

[1:09:11] » Yeah, >> they do have a AI seminar at that place.

[1:09:15] I think it's September 9th. Um you can talk to Diane or go visit the ICR and

[1:09:19] find out more about it. I think Diane or people at that area they're bringing in

[1:09:23] some experts even from Packard different areas they're advertising might be a

[1:09:27] good opportunity to find out more about it right from external source but

[1:09:32] » all right thank you

[1:09:35] » I that that's excuse me that's that's interesting if there if there was a

[1:09:39] seminar that was being held locally I' I'd be happy to work with Charlie and

[1:09:44] mayor to set that up for your attendance we'd have to do a public notice for

[1:09:48] meeting but Yeah, we'll see if that's possible. It depends on the content, I

[1:09:52] think, of it, whether it's it's kind of tailored, but uh yeah, we'll look into

[1:09:55] that. >> Okay. Anyway, that

[1:09:58] » Okay. Thanks. >> All right. Uh did you want to take us

[1:10:01] into the the next ordinance, Tom? >> I don't Is that the best uh or excuse

[1:10:08] me, >> it's the permit application?

[1:10:12] » Okay, thank you.

[1:10:16] » Oh, that's that's fine. Okay, good. Thank you.

[1:10:19] So this um is um reestablishing the moratorum on um

[1:10:27] Thank you. on major utility centers. Thank you. There we go.

[1:10:35] Um anyway, so this this stemmed from the um the project to be lo or that may be

[1:10:42] located outside of Cedar Willy, the Bass project. Um, and back then we did have a

[1:10:49] moratorum placed on it and we extended it. I think we extended it once. Um, and

[1:10:55] we kind of lost track of it because we were in the middle of our comp plan

[1:10:58] process and and um, we haven't gotten around to dealing with regulations to

[1:11:03] deal with that kind of um, industrial use. It is something we'd like to

[1:11:07] address. Um but first we want to reestablish the moratorum and like like

[1:11:13] we had hoped less time to use that six months to come up with those development

[1:11:17] rags to do that but like I said we got caught up in the comp plan we're not

[1:11:21] caught up in that anymore and so um I think that in six months or shortly

[1:11:27] thereafter within six eight months we could come up with some development

[1:11:31] regulations for it. All right, Councilman,

[1:11:36] » if I could just piggyback uh since this is uh we also put this one up for first

[1:11:40] read. Um this uh proposal also benefited from uh council member input.

[1:11:47] Uh it was Councilman D. Young again who uh flagged

[1:11:53] the term major utility in one of his questions. And so when I uh bring this

[1:11:58] back for a second read, I intend to scratch that. Um, so it'll just say

[1:12:02] applications for development projects that involve the storage or generation

[1:12:07] of electricity. And the reason for that is, uh, the term major utility is

[1:12:11] actually a term of art at the county level, um, in in some of their zoning.

[1:12:16] And so I don't want to inadvertently invoke that. Um, and then also I had the

[1:12:23] uh first public hearing date uh for tonight because originally I had this

[1:12:29] scheduled to be a first read at the previous meeting. So, we'll have to bump

[1:12:33] that public hearing date to September 9th and I'll have that date corrected

[1:12:37] when I bring it back. That's all. Thanks.

[1:12:42] » Uh, Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um,

[1:12:46] [clears throat] this this also is going to be all in the verbiage, I think, of

[1:12:51] of how we how we get it right. Um, I do know uh I don't know all of our codes uh

[1:13:00] off the top of my head. Um I know we have some employees that almost do I'm

[1:13:04] sure but um we do have an a noise ordinance right for uh certain things

[1:13:12] like uh industrial and other such things.

[1:13:15] » Yes. >> Okay. Um and the reason I ask is uh in

[1:13:20] in developing this uh uh code um I don't see us

[1:13:29] I I can't imagine that this council would not pass a uh moratorum for uh

[1:13:36] major utility developments so we can in turn get our code correct. Um,

[1:13:44] and in writing that code, um, it'd be helpful if we included, um, like

[1:13:52] the noise ordinance for it because size is relative, right? Like this project

[1:13:58] that they're proposing out in our farmland right outside town. Um, it's a

[1:14:04] very large pro project and we've heard that it's going to be very loud if they

[1:14:09] do end up being able to build it. which hopefully they won't, but um there

[1:14:14] is another project that's already in place um on Samish Island and it's about

[1:14:20] the size of a dumpster and um I know the neighboring property

[1:14:26] owners of it and it is incredibly loud and it's um and so uh in in doing the

[1:14:36] code I I think it'd be important to not only have square footage But whatever

[1:14:42] noise pollution and sound and um how it would be bothering people coming off of

[1:14:47] off of it would um kind of lock it in a little bit harder, I think.

[1:14:53] » Thanks. >> All right, Councilman Laga.

[1:14:57] » Thank you very much. Thanks for uh doing this. I do agree. Um it's nice to see so

[1:15:03] much on the lithium side because there there may be some alternative energies

[1:15:07] that hopefully do come out that are fairly safe. Um a long time ago I had an

[1:15:11] idea to do a saltwater battery and I delayed and delayed and then I looked it

[1:15:16] up when I was about ready to do it and they were doing it with um carbon mat

[1:15:19] and saltwater um as their anode and cathode and their acid and they were

[1:15:23] using aluminum or copper as their as their node. So, I mean, it was

[1:15:27] interesting. It wasn't generating electric lot of electricity. But if they

[1:15:30] can do something like that that's not condensed or they come up with something

[1:15:34] different that is a little bit safer, you know, or some the ICR is what kind

[1:15:38] of what I'm thinking. They're developing technologies. So, they get something

[1:15:41] stood up and then they want to buy a shop in town and really develop it out.

[1:15:45] You know, it'd be kind of nice to see some safer energies and and stuff like

[1:15:49] that. Um, and and part of the advantage of having the ICR so close is that those

[1:15:54] entrepreneurs may start a business in town because they're starting their

[1:15:59] their crafts over there. They're getting mentored over there. They're getting

[1:16:02] their patents over there and then they're building out these which are

[1:16:05] some actually some really cool technologies. I mean, everything from

[1:16:08] autonomous to nuclear to different things, you know, that they're kind of

[1:16:11] doing. They could start working on those in town as and starting up their

[1:16:16] businesses like we've seen other startups. So,

[1:16:19] Councilman Carr. Uh >> again, this is a situation where um we

[1:16:24] want to make sure that we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater and have

[1:16:29] a good definition. Um what they were proposing outside of town, we had the

[1:16:34] the proponents of it and I remember asking them, "What do you do if there's

[1:16:39] a fire?" And he the guy said, "We let it burn." which wasn't a great answer, but

[1:16:44] uh Councilman Lvaka is right in terms of battery development. It's going very

[1:16:50] rapidly. Unfortunately, we're being uh uh China's way ahead on this. Um but

[1:16:57] there are other major uh u manufacturers including Toyota that are pushing it

[1:17:04] really hard. Toyota went early into hybrid vehicles. So I think that the

[1:17:09] technology will get better. I think the lithium battery as it is is pretty scary

[1:17:15] to most folks and they wouldn't want to live next to it. So, we really don't

[1:17:18] want to have it even in our industrial zone. I think that would be scary to

[1:17:23] people, too. I'm not opposed to battery technology. I'm just opposed to where

[1:17:28] you place it. Thank you, >> Councilwoman Peterson.

[1:17:33] Yeah, I had a question about um I [clears throat] know there's the large

[1:17:39] scale battery farms, but then there's also like household or residential

[1:17:43] battery storage, energy storage, you know, people who want to stop paying

[1:17:49] PSSE for their electricity. Um do we have any do we have any permitting for

[1:17:55] that currently or are we seeing activity like that in town right now?

[1:17:59] Um, I haven't seen anything. That doesn't mean it's not out there.

[1:18:04] » Okay. >> Yeah.

[1:18:05] » So, but it's something I'd want to take a look at when we draft our ordinance,

[1:18:09] too. We don't want to, like you said, throw the baby out with the bath water

[1:18:12] or prevent innovation from happening, >> you know, and um something like we did

[1:18:18] with like we will with the um with the data centers, we have to look at size.

[1:18:22] There's a lot of information I think that we need to pull off from, you know,

[1:18:28] um, the internet or whatever and some experts if we have them around

[1:18:32] » um to make sure we don't >> paint ourselves into a corner.

[1:18:35] » I also wanted to say like when I hear Nick talking a lot of what I'm hearing

[1:18:39] is we want to support local businesses um, and that's a totally different thing

[1:18:45] from the best project right outside of town here. Um, so that might be

[1:18:51] something to consider as well. >> Councilman Coch. Yeah, I just want to

[1:18:56] reiterate what several people have said, getting the innovation center involved

[1:19:00] because they'll be great partners on these questions and uh they might know

[1:19:04] the right people as uh Councilman Lvak has said uh when I went to one of their

[1:19:09] events, I talked to a fellow who they're doing uh they're developing the

[1:19:14] infrastructure for uh new next generation nuclear and there's some

[1:19:19] interesting people that you know they could they could maybe put in more of a

[1:19:24] well you should look You should be a little bit more futuristic on this and

[1:19:28] know what's coming. Thank you. >> All right, then if there isn't any more

[1:19:34] discussion on this topic. Okay, we will move on to easements.

[1:19:41] Bill, thank you, mayor, and good evening,

[1:19:45] council. So, the Jones John Liner Railroad

[1:19:49] Undercrossing Project, think I said that without stuttering. That's good.

[1:19:53] um is moving right along. Uh we're at a basically a 90% design right now and as

[1:19:59] part of that uh what's before you this evening is our um the last of our

[1:20:06] rideway acquisition effort. So we we uh as you know last year we purchased the

[1:20:12] easement from BNSF to put the road under the railroad bridge. These now we have a

[1:20:19] number of small easements. So, for instance, where our sidewalks

[1:20:24] um need to get truncated to put in the ADA ramps and things like that. And uh

[1:20:29] we've got a um I think five temporary construction

[1:20:34] easements to move fences that are encroaching on the rideway and some

[1:20:37] various things as well. So, basically, this is a pretty uh minor uh rightaway

[1:20:43] acquisition effort. So, it went a little faster than I expected, which is great.

[1:20:49] And so that's what's before you tonight is to uh finalize this handful of of uh

[1:20:56] rightaway easements to purchase and we are on target to begin construction this

[1:21:02] spring.

[1:21:05] » Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um it looks

[1:21:10] like you're uh going to be on time and on budget here, so that's good. It's

[1:21:14] great. I love I love being on budget. Um yeah,

[1:21:20] and so uh look looking at this we got 84 and a half% uh covered by the TIP grant

[1:21:27] and then the rest is coming from uh is it REIT or TBD or is it a combination of

[1:21:33] those? uh it can be any or all or this is basically the u small mo local mosaic

[1:21:40] of funding we're using for this project and so it just all kind of all how it

[1:21:45] shakes out um what ratio we're using we're not

[1:21:49] necessarily using an even ratio on everything but but um we're keeping

[1:21:53] track of this mostly it's REIT but also certainly TBD and transportation impact

[1:21:58] fees it's just a source of local the pools which our local funding comes

[1:22:02] room. >> Okay. Well, I'm good with it.

[1:22:07] » Mock. >> Uh, thanks, Bill. Good work on this. Uh,

[1:22:11] have y'all reached out to the affected uh, land owners, residents on

[1:22:16] » regularly and routinely, sir? >> Okay. So, any push back or they pretty

[1:22:21] much >> I wouldn't say push back, more questions

[1:22:24] » and we're answering them >> because we're going to enumerate them.

[1:22:27] So, right. >> Yes.

[1:22:29] » Yeah.

[1:22:33] Um, Councilwoman Peterson, >> um, I'm hearing from W three

[1:22:38] constituents whose fences are being affected by this property. You know,

[1:22:43] they don't really like it, but from what I've heard, um, our staff has done a

[1:22:48] really good job with communication and kind of explaining the situation and so,

[1:22:53] thank you for that, Bill. Um, and we also were able to talk about this at the

[1:22:57] open house and I think it's just really great to have all of that public

[1:23:00] information available and engaging with the the residents who are impacted. So,

[1:23:06] thank you. >> What Councilwoman Henderson's speaking

[1:23:10] of is the five houses on the southern right ofway where their backyards butt

[1:23:15] against our unused rightway. So, this was unopened rightway largely and some

[1:23:19] of them have their fences encroached over 10 feet on the city right away. Um,

[1:23:24] and so then as our surveyor came through, so we're working through with

[1:23:27] what those particular rules involve with them and like I said, it's been a lot of

[1:23:32] questions and education and we're at a good place right now.

[1:23:38] » Councilman Lvaka. >> Uh, so yeah, mine was very similar with

[1:23:42] those because that's right over in war two and and we walk over there. They're

[1:23:47] uh they right now got a view of a goalie with the deer prancing around and eating

[1:23:51] vegetation and it's going to be a road. It's going to be a sidewalk like up to

[1:23:55] their back deck. [laughter] So, uh great job on communicating well

[1:23:59] with them. Um I, you know, I've heard some people that were upset definitely.

[1:24:03] Um more so, you know, when it was first being really proposed, but now it seems

[1:24:08] like it's settling in. And uh if we do see a lot of push back, I mean it'd be a

[1:24:13] great time to note that and then then maybe do another town event for those

[1:24:17] guys. And thank you, >> Councilwoman Peterson.

[1:24:21] » Oh, I was Oh, that's sorry, Councilman Cox.

[1:24:25] » Uh forgive me if I haven't uh seen this or read about it, but uh I have been I

[1:24:29] also am in in W 2, so I reside there, but people are asking about the closure

[1:24:34] of the old uh passing. What what what's the timeline on that? And then is I

[1:24:40] didn't notice, but will there be a four-way stop or anything on Reed and

[1:24:43] and John Liner in the future? Is that >> Yeah. No, it will not be a four-way

[1:24:47] stop, but So, it's going to h right now uh Reed is a two-way is a T intersection

[1:24:52] because re uh John Liner doesn't go all the way through. So the uh Reed Street

[1:24:59] will become the minor leg and that will get the two stop signs and then the

[1:25:02] Jones John Liner corridor will be through uh through

[1:25:08] access and um sorry did you have another question there council?

[1:25:13] » Just the closure time for the the previous

[1:25:16] » Okay. Uh thank you. So part of the um agreement with BNSF to build the new

[1:25:23] bridge and it's also a traffic concern with the city actually sap road there is

[1:25:29] a county road uh the city and county jointly maintain it mainly because

[1:25:35] uh it it goes through our city and and many times u our maintenance staff is is

[1:25:42] closer and and easier to maintain as we maintain our other roads in the

[1:25:45] vicinity. And so this is going to be a two-step process. One is we're going to

[1:25:49] annex the SAP road right away into the city so that we don't have that

[1:25:53] discontinuity with the county maintenance crews anymore. Um and then

[1:25:58] as part of that, we've agreed to close uh access through that undercrossing,

[1:26:05] which as everybody knows is a hairpin turn and and has several different

[1:26:10] issues. Um, originally BNSF was going to reestablish the embankment under that

[1:26:17] uh as a way to close it, but of course that runs into Brickyard Creek and other

[1:26:22] things. So they have informed me as they were building the bridge this April that

[1:26:27] they're going it's going to remain open, but our agreement says we still need to

[1:26:31] close the road to through traffic, which we're all for. So the count so the city

[1:26:36] will quickly go through. It's also on our six-year tip. um

[1:26:41] in a very short time frame after we open the Jones line or undercrossing road

[1:26:47] because that will then be the major through route uh east and west to close

[1:26:52] that with a hammerhead turnaround in either side establish boulder bullards

[1:26:58] under the bridge and now it can be remain open for pedestrian access. So,

[1:27:04] next year on the six-year tip, you'll see a a new project to establish a

[1:27:08] bicycle pedestrian route along SAP Road um to connect with Reed Street. So, then

[1:27:15] you can uh utilize uh SAP Road between Highway 20 and Jones Road right now is

[1:27:21] pedestrian only and then so that pedestrian access will extend all the

[1:27:26] way to Reed Street when we're done with that project. Although I can't tell you

[1:27:30] exactly what year we'll build that in, but um when um and then at that time,

[1:27:36] Sap Road on the north side of Jones Road will basically become a driveway serving

[1:27:41] that one property and then have some sort of separator for the bicycles,

[1:27:46] pedestrians on the I'll call it the easterly half of the road. So I I've

[1:27:50] we've got a plan on that but but yes so we will but we will be closing that road

[1:27:56] to vehic or that undercrossing to vehicular traffic uh soon after uh the

[1:28:02] main road has been opened as part of our agreement with BNSF.

[1:28:06] » Perfect. And I just want to say thank you for all you're doing in this because

[1:28:08] it's been exciting. I was unable to uh to go to your your open house but I w

[1:28:14] told so many people about it. So again, kudos to the city, to the entire team

[1:28:18] for being so transparent and having this all available in such a way that it's

[1:28:23] easy to read. So thank you for that. >> Councilman Labarco.

[1:28:28] » Madame Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to authorize you or designate to execute

[1:28:32] easement and other purchase documents for temporary and permanent easement for

[1:28:36] the Jones John Liner Railroad Undercrossing Project up to a combined

[1:28:40] total of $30,000. >> Second.

[1:28:42] » Yep. Jinx. All right, we have a motion by Councilman Lvaka, seconded by

[1:28:48] Councilman Cox. All those in favor signify by saying I. I.

[1:28:52] » Any opposed? Same sign. Motion passes. >> Thank you.

[1:29:00] » All right. Professional services agreement.

[1:29:03] » Yes, ma'am. So, uh the next item is Cascade uh the sorry SR20 Cascade Trail

[1:29:11] West Extension Phase 2A. Man, I promise to establish shorter titles of

[1:29:17] projects in the future. So, this is kind of the final push to

[1:29:22] finish the design and then right away we expect right away may go

[1:29:29] fairly quickly, may take up to a year just simply because we have a number of

[1:29:33] property owners uh to work with there. And uh so this is a proposal to uh bring

[1:29:41] on board Reichart Nep and their team to do the final uh design and also the

[1:29:47] construction management and inspection on this project as well. Uh it is a

[1:29:52] project with a little bit of history. Uh, as um,

[1:29:57] uh, as council knows, you know, this is a

[1:30:02] project that Mark Fryburgger started, I believe in 2018,

[1:30:07] uh, as as a grant project, and then we were designing in-house with David Lee,

[1:30:12] uh, for a period of time. And then as we transitioned over in 2024, we actually

[1:30:19] um because we were without without a city engineer for about nine months, uh

[1:30:23] we hired Facet uh Northwest and they brought the design to about an 80 90%

[1:30:29] design. It does include a pedestrian bridge which we want to a third party

[1:30:34] analysis on which Reichart will provide for us. And then um uh then we had the

[1:30:40] flood and uh Peter Lane took over some of the design, advanced that design. And

[1:30:47] part of his what he advanced at design with was to elevate the trail by a foot

[1:30:52] or two in key locations so we wouldn't have to uh evacuate some of the

[1:30:57] different medical services and stuff in that area to basically provide some of

[1:31:00] that flood resilience. And then now um the other thing that's

[1:31:05] happened too is we've had a major change in the Washington State Department uh

[1:31:10] DOT specifications uh and so part of that this is a federal

[1:31:16] project. It's also funded with TIBB money, but um bringing on uh the last

[1:31:22] little bit of professional consulting services to make sure we get over that

[1:31:27] hump, get a uh third party analysis on the pedestrian bridge, which also, by

[1:31:33] the way, will carry period potentially periodic traffic. uh in that um if we

[1:31:40] have a major flood, this trail uh as well as phase 2B will be outside the

[1:31:47] 100red-year flood plane and potentially maintain emergency services doing during

[1:31:52] a near hundred-year flood event to the hospital over our trail. So, we we we

[1:31:58] want to make sure we're doing our due diligence to make sure we're having

[1:32:01] these components that we'll be able to serve that secondary function as well.

[1:32:05] So, this is um simply within our budget and we want to

[1:32:11] get across the finish line and then get all the federal project uh requirements

[1:32:16] done with uh some professional services. >> All right. Any questions? Uh

[1:32:23] Councilwoman Peterson. >> Bill, again, this is really great. the

[1:32:28] amount of ingenuity that's involved in this project planning with the flood

[1:32:32] resilience and uh the path that is going to provide accessibility to the

[1:32:41] hospital. This is a really great project. I have

[1:32:45] constituents commenting on it all the time. People

[1:32:48] are really looking forward to this. So, thank you for your work on this,

[1:32:53] » Councilman Coch. Uh, and I thank you also. I and I think this project will

[1:32:58] eventually will will save lives. You know, people I've seen people walking

[1:33:03] down the side of that road a foot from traffic going 50 plus. Um, and I really

[1:33:10] I want to um agree with uh Councilman Councilwoman

[1:33:15] Peterson that the resilience thing I would think would be very well received

[1:33:19] by funding agencies as well because I think everything that we do going

[1:33:24] forward in regard to construction of city properties where relevant should

[1:33:30] really think a lot about flood resilience because we had a bad one and

[1:33:34] we'll have another one. >> Thank you.

[1:33:39] Um, Councilman Henderson. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um, yeah, great

[1:33:45] job. Uh, you've done a tremendous amount of work

[1:33:49] on the uh Jones John Liner Road and then I know that you picked this up late in

[1:33:53] the game and uh yeah, you're you're killing it, man. So, uh, with that, I'd

[1:33:59] motion to authorize mayor designate execute a contract with Reichart and EV

[1:34:04] Engineering Incorporated for engineering for the State Route 20 Cascade Trail

[1:34:09] West Extension phase 2A [laughter] project in the amount not to

[1:34:15] exceed $155,000 with minor contract changes as required

[1:34:20] by Washington State DOT. >> I'll second.

[1:34:24] » All right. Uh, we have a motion made by Councilman Henderson, seconded by

[1:34:28] Councilman Caul. Is there any more discussion?

[1:34:32] All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I.

[1:34:35] » Any oppose? Same sign. >> Motion passes.

[1:34:40] » Now the fun part. >> How about the truck?

[1:34:43] » Okay, >> here we go.

[1:34:46] » So, um, thank you again. So, so this so we have we we've been having some issues

[1:34:52] with our garbage trucks lately and one of the things we have is an interlocal

[1:34:57] agreement with the city of Mount Vernon uh to share resources with solid waste

[1:35:02] equipment. Uh that also includes um things like towers and things like that

[1:35:09] if we need to do that. So, we've been borrowing one of their garbage trucks

[1:35:13] off and on for the last three, four months as we've um been making repairs

[1:35:19] to some of our vehicles as things that have happened to them. And so, uh this

[1:35:24] is a truck that they've loaned to us in the past. We know this truck. We've used

[1:35:27] it quite a bit recently. And uh it just happens to be on their surplusing

[1:35:33] schedule and their ERR rotation. And they, as you know, it can take a year to

[1:35:40] two years to get a new garbage truck after you place an order. So basically,

[1:35:44] their garbage truck they placed an order on two years ago came and then they're

[1:35:47] ready to surplus this one. And so rather than surplus it to public auction, they

[1:35:51] offered it to us for $40,000. Is is a truck that our mechanics gone

[1:35:57] through a basic review of it. It hasn't done an intensive review. He's also

[1:36:02] coordinated with the Mason County or Mason County, geez,

[1:36:07] the Mount Vernon maintenance department as well. Um, it has a good history. It's

[1:36:14] a sound vehicle. They're uh $40,000 is what they're offering it for us. We'd

[1:36:19] like uh recommend taking that. I will say it's likely as our mechanic goes

[1:36:24] through it. I've suggested to him that um it's going to be worth placing some

[1:36:30] more investment into this truck to just make extend its life cycle. And one of

[1:36:36] those things may be adding a a heavy lift kit to it. Right now it doesn't

[1:36:40] have the heavy duty garbage lifting arms on it and stuff, but uh even if we spent

[1:36:47] 200,000 on that and he thinks it's going to be under 100,000, but will no more,

[1:36:52] we would be spending less than half the cost of a new truck. And similar

[1:36:57] strategy to what we did a year and a half ago with council with one of our uh

[1:37:02] dump trucks that uh we replaced the the dump on it that rusted off from salt and

[1:37:08] stuff and uh we invested about 100,000 in that and

[1:37:12] and it's now a very good serviceable truck without having to go into the long

[1:37:17] lead time of ordering a new one. So, it's it's uh one of the strategies been

[1:37:22] we've been trying to work with to uh truly get some good service life when we

[1:37:27] have a vehicle that um has a lot of miles on the engine to go. And so, so

[1:37:33] anyway, with that, I would um uh appreciate being able to purchase

[1:37:39] this with Mount Vernon and and I'm glad we have such a good relationship with

[1:37:43] them. So, for them to offer such a good deal on a truck like this to us,

[1:37:48] » Councilman Dion, >> thank you. Well, we already know this

[1:37:52] truck and so it's got a flatter learning curve for our staff. Um, and it's been

[1:37:56] checked out preliminary by our mechanic. Uh, we need it. we should have it if the

[1:38:01] price point seems right and so I support it and I think this is a no-brainer. So

[1:38:06] I move the uh to authorize the mayor or designate to execute the agreement with

[1:38:09] the city of Mount Vernon purchase uh of the 2007 CCC automated refuge truck for

[1:38:17] $40,000. >> I'll second.

[1:38:20] » All right, we have a motion by Councilman D. Young.

[1:38:24] Um seconded by Councilman Henderson. Is there any more discussion? Councilman

[1:38:30] Henderson. >> Thank you. Um, it's been a long time

[1:38:33] since I bought a garbage truck. Uh, how much does a brand new one cost? Just

[1:38:39] just so we can hear the difference between 40,000.

[1:38:45] » Just about 500,00. >> 500,000.

[1:38:48] This is a good deal. >> All those uh in favor signify by saying

[1:38:54] I. I. >> Any oppose? Same sign.

[1:38:59] Happy garbage truck day. All right. Uh let's see here. So, um you

[1:39:06] see the information only items and is there anything uh for the good of the

[1:39:10] order?

[1:39:13] » Uh we do not have an executive session tonight.

[1:39:16] » I have one point. Um, so, uh, Councilman Henderson,

[1:39:19] » uh, for good of the order, um, for the, uh,

[1:39:26] » September 9th, uh, meeting, um, I would ask to be excused.

[1:39:32] » No, [laughter]

[1:39:35] thanks. Wanted to speak, right? >> Is there a particular reason?

[1:39:38] » Yeah, I'm going to be out of the country.

[1:39:43] Madam Mayor, I'd like to make a point of personal privilege to congratulate

[1:39:48] Council Member Henderson on his upcoming marriage.

[1:39:54] » Thank you. >> I would like to sec I will third that

[1:39:59] and and say welcome to the family. Madam Mayor,

[1:40:04] » so I was wondering if we can have I believe a deeper discussion on those

[1:40:09] baseball fields and what the plan is maybe at a workshop coming up um which

[1:40:12] is probably already in the works. I'm sure. Yes, you're nodding your head. Of

[1:40:15] course it would be. Um so thank you very much for doing that.

[1:40:20] » There's a lot of interested people on where are we going to put these kids? If

[1:40:23] if we can't do here, what do we want to do there? And I know that you had a plan

[1:40:27] and you you always do. So thanks. >> Thank you. And I'll I'll I'll give a

[1:40:31] little hint on that that um we are going to um do a joint um session with the

[1:40:39] with the school district and we will be um bringing them to the table as well as

[1:40:43] all of us at a study session and discuss the potential option that we have. Did

[1:40:50] you want to say something on that bill? >> No.

[1:40:53] » Okay. I just thought you were waving your hand.

[1:40:55] » I was >> okay. So, um, so this Monday was my

[1:40:59] birthday. My wife made me a, uh, Cookie Monster cake to celebrate, and then she

[1:41:05] had to use up the rest of the frosting because she had too much. So, they made

[1:41:08] a dozen or so cupcakes. And so, being as council never gets to participate in any

[1:41:13] of these uh, staff level things. I I gave everybody a cupcake.

[1:41:19] So, they came from me, not just from a random person. [laughter]

[1:41:23] » So, we know, don't eat them. Well,

[1:41:26] » can we sing happy birthday? [laughter] Lower the

[1:41:29] » No, it's not my birthday anymore. >> Thank your wife for these. And also, I

[1:41:34] want to um thank uh um uh Robert Alver Alvarez uh Jr. for uh coming all this

[1:41:41] way. Um and um we're very excited to be a Purple Heart City and all of the

[1:41:48] veterans that are out there as well and in up here as well. and the people

[1:41:54] continuing to serve for us. So, um, with that, I'll be Yes.

[1:41:59] » Uh, I just I would like to acknowledge the elected in the room that, uh, with

[1:42:04] Scadget County Commissioner Ron Whis has been, uh, in the room the entire meeting

[1:42:08] and thank you for visiting us. With that, I'd move to.

[1:42:12] » All right. Um, all those in favor signify by saying

[1:42:16] I. >> I.

[1:42:18] » Thank you very much. Motion to adjourn. 7:41

[1:42:38] » beautiful. >> I know it. It's I'm so excited.

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