[0:15] city council meeting.

[0:16] >> good ever wantoning, I

[0:17] would like to call the

[0:18] regular

[0:21] city council meeting for

[0:24] wednesday MARCH 26, 2025 to

[0:24] order.

[0:27] MAY I please have roll call.

[0:28] >> councilmember coleman?

[0:29] >> here.

[0:29] >> councilmember nagales?

[0:31] >> here.

[0:32] >> councilmember nicolas

[0:32] ?Frjts present.

[0:33] >> vice mayor addiego?

[0:35] >> here.

[0:35] >> mayor flores?

[0:38] >> I am present, thank you.

[0:41] Tonight we have as I've been

[0:42] doing two special guests that

[0:44] will lead us in pledge of

[0:45] allegiance.

[0:48] I would like to invite

[0:50] jonathan I.Pak who is five

[0:52] years old in transitional

[0:54] kindergarten at our lady o

[0:55] mercy.

[0:58] He also plays tee ball for

[0:59] south san francisco yuth

[1:02] baseball and he's in the kids

[1:06] gym in south city as well as

[1:08] dylan munsayak who is 14

[1:09] years

[1:14] old, 8th grader at st.

[1:17] Veronica's sx, teen gym in

[1:19] south city to lead us in the

[1:21] pledge of allegiance this

[1:22] evening, so please stand if

[1:23] you are able to and place

[1:24] your

[1:24] right has happened over your

[1:26] heart and I will have them

[1:31] lead us in the pledge of

[1:34] allegiance.

[1:35] >> I pledge allegiance to the

[1:36] flag of the united states of

[1:37] america and to the republic

[1:37] for which it stands one

[1:38] nation

[1:39] under GOD, indivisible, with

[1:46] liberty and justice for all.

[1:49] >> thank you very much.

[1:51] Stay right tl. Let's give

[1:51] them

[1:53] a hand, why don't we do that.

[1:54] [Applause].

[1:56] And I would like to present

[1:58] dylan and jonathan with two

[1:59] of

[2:02] our official city key pins

[2:07] this evening, so I'll come

[2:11] down and we'll take a picture.

[2:14] >> he's coming down.

[2:46] (Taking photograph).

[2:47] >> great.

[2:52] Let's have next agenda item,

[2:53] please.

[2:54] >> thank you, MAY yo, moving

[2:55] on to agenda review.

[2:58] >> we hve no changes to the

[2:59] agenda, mayor flores.

[2:59] >> thank you.

[3:02] >> thank you, moving on to

[3:03] levine act disclosures, does

[3:04] the council have anything to

[3:05] report tonight?

[3:07] Thank you.

[3:09] And we'll move on to

[3:10] announcements pr staff.

[3:23] >> great.

[3:25] >> welcome, chief samson?

[3:26] >> thank you, I'm trying to

[3:30] get the slide up here.

[3:32] I'm going to stop before I

[3:32] get

[3:34] too crazy.

[3:39] >> good evening, mayor eddie,

[3:42] matt samson, your fire chief,

[3:43] first we're incredibly

[3:44] excited

[3:46] for next friday the 4th, it's

[3:49] a really big day for nt only

[3:50] our department but for our

[3:54] city to christen the city's

[3:55] brand new fire boat, it will

[3:59] take place on friday the 4th

[4:00] at oyster point, a little

[4:01] history of the water rescue

[4:03] program ask a water show and

[4:05] ip viet the public on the

[4:05] boat

[4:06] for tours if they'd like to

[4:07] come.

[4:09] We hope to see everyone there.

[4:11] Second, in support of our

[4:12] public outreach to help

[4:13] inform

[4:13] our community about the

[4:14] impact

[4:17] tos the state's most recent

[4:18] fire hazard severity zone

[4:18] maps

[4:19] released at the end of

[4:21] FEBRUARY websinger ear

[4:21] hosting

[4:23] our town hall 65 at the terra

[4:26] bay neighborhood up on APRIL

[4:29] 7, that will go from 6:30 to

[4:30] 8:30 and we're here to answer

[4:33] questions regarding the fire

[4:34] hazard severity zone mps but

[4:36] also anything wild fire

[4:37] related, any comments or

[4:38] comments or anything the

[4:41] public would like to know how

[4:42] they can make their home

[4:42] safer

[4:44] from wild fire and is the

[4:44] town

[4:46] hall is open to anyone in the

[4:50] city, we hope to see everyone

[4:50] there.

[4:51] >> I have a question.

[4:52] >> please.

[4:56] >> if I could, so I know that

[4:59] these fire hazard severity

[5:02] maps, are they through fema

[5:03] ?Frnlts they're produced by

[5:05] cal fire and they're released

[5:07] by mandate under state

[5:08] ordinance to incorporate all

[5:09] the etire state of

[5:10] california.

[5:12] >> where you fall on that

[5:14] map,

[5:15] does that determine maybe an

[5:16] impact to your home insurance?

[5:18] >> that is a current concern

[5:20] right now, we've been assured

[5:23] that these maps do not impact

[5:24] insurance rate and is we'll

[5:26] spend a a quite a bit of time

[5:28] why we agree with that

[5:29] perspective during the town

[5:30] hall.

[5:31] >> okay, thank you, chief.

[5:35] >> thank you.

[5:38] >> we'll go on without the

[5:41] slide, but I'm very excited

[5:42] also as the third

[5:42] announcement

[5:44] tonight, I would like to

[5:45] announce officially and

[5:47] introduce our new dputy fire

[5:50] chief, devon flannery, he's

[5:54] been with the city for 23

[5:56] years, and started in the

[5:56] fire

[6:01] service as an explorer and

[6:04] spent quite a bit of time in

[6:06] the pacific palisades area.

[6:07] With our department, chief

[6:11] flannery has served as

[6:12] paramedic firefighter, ba tan

[6:20] I -- battalion fire chief.

[6:22] Chief flannery has invested

[6:22] in

[6:24] his own education, he was

[6:24] able

[6:26] to obtain his undergarage

[6:27] walt

[6:29] degree from san francisco

[6:30] state, a doctoral degree f

[6:31] the university of southern

[6:32] california in education so,

[6:33] he

[6:34] brings a unique skill set and

[6:37] a lot of capabilities to our

[6:37] department.

[6:39] We're going to leverage him

[6:39] to

[6:41] make sure we can advance the

[6:43] department to the future, s

[6:44] I'm excited and I would like

[6:46] to bring him up for a few

[6:46] words.

[6:51] >> con -- congratulations,

[6:54] let's bring him up, please.

[6:56] [Applause].

[6:57] >> good evening, council, i

[6:59] want to thank the fire chief

[7:00] for believes in me, it's been

[7:02] a a pleasure to serve the

[7:02] city

[7:03] the last 230 23

[7:03] years, I

[7:04] look

[7:06] forward to the next

[7:07] opportunity in my new role

[7:08] and

[7:09] using my skill set to further

[7:10] the mission of the fire

[7:11] department, I want to thank

[7:11] everybody.

[7:18] >> thank you, con fwrafp --

[7:19] congratulations again.

[7:22] >> thank you.

[7:23] [Applause].

[7:25] >> alright, now I would like

[7:28] to do a special I guess

[7:29] announcement, recognition and

[7:30] for that, I would like to

[7:31] turn

[7:33] it over to our city manager,

[7:34] sharon ranals.

[7:36] >> good evening, I'm sharon

[7:37] ranals, city manager, she is

[7:38] not expecting this but I

[7:38] would

[7:41] like to call up christina

[7:48] fernandez if I could.

[7:50] Hi, chris taoep na.

[7:50] >> hi.

[7:51] Er

[7:53] >> so, tonight is

[7:53] christina's

[7:55] last city council meeting as

[7:55] a

[7:57] city employee, we hope to see

[8:01] her at future council

[8:01] meetings

[8:03] because she is still a a

[8:03] resident, christina has

[8:04] accepted a position as the

[8:05] assistant city manager with

[8:06] the city of brisbane which is

[8:07] a promotional opportunity for

[8:08] her so we're happy for

[8:10] christina but we are very sad

[8:12] to see her go.

[8:13] christina has been in the

[8:14] city

[8:15] manager's office for six

[8:15] years

[8:16] and during that time, she's

[8:19] worked on a number of

[8:19] projects

[8:21] including many grant

[8:22] applications, many grant

[8:23] reports, legislative niche

[8:23] yat

[8:26] I fevers such as minimum

[8:26] wage,

[8:28] styrofoam reach codes and

[8:30] could back koe which we'll

[8:32] hear about and emergency

[8:32] response.

[8:34] She has also been our

[8:35] sustainability officer and

[8:36] has

[8:37] served as staff liaison with

[8:37] a

[8:40] null of outside agencies such

[8:42] as wet sxa, the harbor

[8:44] district, one of christina's

[8:45] major projects has been to

[8:48] establish a a community

[8:49] district which is progress

[8:51] thanks to her effort and is

[8:51] we

[8:52] hope it will be successful.

[8:53] I think there's a special

[8:54] bond

[8:56] among the staff who served

[8:58] during covid and christina

[8:58] was

[9:00] really instrumental in

[9:02] organizing -- I'm getting

[9:04] choked up -- covid was a

[9:08] trying time, she was

[9:10] instrumental in organizing

[9:10] vaccination clinic, food

[9:11] distributions, maintaining

[9:11] the

[9:12] continuity of operations as

[9:14] well as staff morale and we

[9:16] owe her a lot of appreciation.

[9:18] So w that, I have this little

[9:20] token of appreciation which

[9:21] christina, I want dwrou hang

[9:24] this in your office in

[9:26] brisbane, just a reminder of

[9:29] all your friends in south san

[9:34] francisco.

[9:36] >> oh my gosh, thank you.

[9:39] >> nice picture of city hall.

[9:43] >> thank you so much.

[9:44] [Applause].

[9:47] And I'm putting you on the

[9:48] spot, I don't know if you

[9:49] want

[9:50] to say a few words.

[9:51] >> first of all, thank you so

[9:52] much to sharon and to

[9:52] everyone

[9:55] and to all of you for your

[9:56] leadership.

[9:57] You know, when I was brought

[10:00] on board, I wasn't quite sure

[10:01] what to expect.

[10:03] Initially I was to serve as a

[10:04] commissioner for the city and

[10:07] then I got recruited to come

[10:10] work for the city and for

[10:10] that

[10:11] I'm forever grateful.

[10:12] I have a vested interest in

[10:14] seeing the city succeed and

[10:15] I'm very, very proud of the

[10:18] work that the staff has done,

[10:19] the staff goes above and

[10:21] beyond every day for the

[10:22] community and I just feel so

[10:24] grateful to have been a small

[10:27] part of it, just a big thanks

[10:28] to sharon for her leadership

[10:31] and to all of you for your

[10:31] leadership and just thank you

[10:35] so much.

[10:37] [Applause].

[10:39] >> any comments from my

[10:40] colleagues on the dais?

[10:41] >> MR. Mayor?

[10:43] >> yes.

[10:46] >> as christina staining a

[10:46] picture, christina, I wanted

[10:48] to say thank you for all your

[10:49] amazing work, you're

[10:50] absolutely right, you first

[10:51] --

[10:53] we first met you as someone

[10:54] applying as a commissioner I

[10:55] think to the planning

[10:57] commission I think it was.

[10:58] >> general plan.

[11:00] >> general plan, that' right.

[11:03] We were so amazed by you that

[11:04] we wanted to hire you.

[11:07] I just wanted to say thank

[11:09] you, this city really owes a

[11:11] great debt to you for all the

[11:12] great work you've done and

[11:12] the

[11:14] fact that you are -- ask

[11:14] still

[11:17] are a south city resident

[11:17] gave

[11:19] a unique perspective in terms

[11:20] of issues happening in south

[11:21] san francisco.

[11:23] I know you're not too far

[11:23] away

[11:26] as you go up north --

[11:27] >> a town over.

[11:28] >> but we know you're only a

[11:29] a

[11:31] phone call away if we need

[11:31] anything.

[11:32] >> absolutely.

[11:33] >> thank you very much.

[11:35] >> thank you, councilmember.

[11:36] Anyone else?

[11:37] >> christina, of course, when

[11:39] I ws mayor, you have been a

[11:41] tremendous help and I really

[11:41] do appreciate all that you

[11:44] have done for us and for the

[11:46] city, and as a woman, I am

[11:47] very supportive of you

[11:49] climbing up the career

[11:49] ladder,

[11:52] more power to you and I'll be

[11:53] here to support you all the

[11:53] time.

[11:54] Thank you, cristina.

[11:57] >> thank you.

[11:59] >> I will say you are a

[12:01] resident of the best district

[12:02] in south san francisco and

[12:03] now

[12:04] that -- I know it was

[12:06] mentioned earlier, now that

[12:07] you're no longer employed by

[12:08] the city, maybe you could

[12:09] join

[12:10] a commission and continue to

[12:12] just be around and contribute

[12:14] b so many of your talents and

[12:16] you have many talents that

[12:18] pansies so many different

[12:22] topic areas as we noticed the

[12:24] city manager said you've done

[12:25] lots of diverse work tere

[12:26] and

[12:29] your work on sustainability

[12:31] which the city with reach

[12:37] codes, with the poorly l --

[12:40] polystyrene ban, I hope to

[12:42] susie you come back in the

[12:42] future.

[12:45] >> sharon hosted a lunch at

[12:47] city hall and we got the

[12:48] express ourselves and I said

[12:51] how nice it was for south san

[12:53] francisco to have an

[12:55] operative, I had a dream of

[12:56] annexation but you don't have

[12:57] to foat that yet.

[13:00] You can't be any closer than

[13:01] brisbane, good luck to you.

[13:03] >> thank you.

[13:04] >> equally grateful for your

[13:05] time, for your dedication but

[13:07] most importantly for your

[13:09] passion as it was said as a

[13:10] resident, you certainly care

[13:13] about the city and it was

[13:15] highlighted and underscored

[13:15] in

[13:16] every presentation and every

[13:19] staff report that you

[13:19] provided

[13:19] and shared.

[13:21] Thank you for representing,

[13:23] for being a true resident

[13:24] like

[13:26] many in this hall and around

[13:27] our community that really

[13:27] care

[13:28] about south san francisco, so

[13:30] con grafp lacing, GOD's speed

[13:30] to you.

[13:32] If I could ask city manager

[13:33] and council to join me down

[13:35] here fr a picture wth

[13:37] christina, please.

[14:21] (Taking photograph).

[14:22] >> thank you very much.

[14:24] Now we're moving o to the

[14:25] next agenda item.

[14:27] >> thank you, mayor, moving

[14:28] on

[14:31] to proclamations,

[14:31] proclamation

[14:33] recognizing APRIL as fair

[14:34] housing months.

[14:34] >> I've asked councilmember

[14:36] mark nagales to present this

[14:36] proclamation.

[14:40] >> this is an honor for me to

[14:42] recognize the month of APRIL

[14:43] as fair housing month.

[14:47] I had the distinct honor to

[14:50] work with project sentinel

[14:51] where we helped numerous

[14:51] south

[14:54] san francisco residents with

[14:55] tenant/landlord issues ask

[14:56] fair housing issues.

[14:59] You know, you would be

[15:00] surprised at the fact of the

[15:03] number of residents who will

[15:05] get denied for rental units

[15:05] or

[15:08] for housing based upon their

[15:11] gender or their age or the

[15:15] fact they had children and it

[15:17] was organization like project

[15:19] sentinel who went above and

[15:22] beyond to make sure all our

[15:23] residents had accessible to

[15:24] fair housing so I'm honored

[15:25] to

[15:26] recognize APRIL as fair

[15:28] housing month and to read a

[15:30] proclamation where it says

[15:32] whereas housing is a basic

[15:34] right of all people and where

[15:36] this year we celebrate the

[15:37] 57th anniversary of the

[15:39] federal fair housing act of

[15:41] 1968 which states that

[15:42] discrimination t sale and

[15:45] rental of housing is illegal

[15:48] and based on race, national

[15:49] origin, whereas the fair

[15:51] housing amendment act extend

[15:56] fair housing rights on

[15:57] familial status to people

[15:58] with

[16:00] children, and whereas

[16:02] california statutes protect

[16:04] its citizens on the basis of

[16:05] age, sexual orientation,

[16:07] gender identity and source of

[16:09] income and california

[16:10] celebrates the 66th

[16:11] anniversary of the fair

[16:12] employment and housing act

[16:12] and

[16:14] whereas the city of south san

[16:15] francisco supports fair

[16:17] housing efforts to eliminate

[16:18] discrimination in housing and

[16:19] recognizes the benefits of

[16:22] project sentinel to educate

[16:23] home seekers, apartment

[16:23] owners

[16:25] on federal and state housing

[16:27] laws and investigate

[16:28] complaints of illegal housing

[16:29] discrimination in south san

[16:31] francisco, whereas the

[16:32] heightened public awareness,

[16:33] the city of south san

[16:35] francisco wishes to focus

[16:37] public attention of APRIL as

[16:38] fair housing mother, now

[16:40] therefore be it resolved the

[16:42] city council of the city of

[16:45] south san francisco does

[16:47] recognize APRIL as fair

[16:48] housing month and encouraging

[16:49] all residents and community

[16:49] organizations to celebrate

[16:50] the

[16:53] value of harm nows and diverse

[16:54] [Inaudible] With neighbor and

[16:56] is this is signed by the

[16:57] entire city council and I'm

[17:00] going to ask jacob to accept

[17:04] this proclamation, jacob?

[17:21] >> welcome.

[17:24] >> so, my name's jacob, I'm a

[17:26] fair housing coordinator at

[17:26] project sentinel, I first

[17:27] want

[17:29] to thank the city council for

[17:33] your continued support of

[17:34] project sentinel.

[17:36] You know, it's been a

[17:38] difficult couple of weeks for

[17:45] fair housing.

[17:48] The public was caught around

[17:50] 60-70%, our projects were

[17:50] just

[17:52] cut from the federal

[17:54] government and, you know, our

[17:57] funding has really taken --

[17:59] we've had to take some

[17:59] drastic

[18:04] measures with our funding.

[18:06] Cities like south city

[18:07] provide

[18:08] a lot for us and it

[18:09] solidifies

[18:10] the relationship that we have

[18:14] with the cities that we work

[18:14] with.

[18:16] So, yeah, again, I want to

[18:18] thank this council for your

[18:19] continued support and I look

[18:21] forward to this year and many

[18:22] more to come.

[18:29] >> thank you very much.

[18:29] [Applause].

[18:30] >> thank you.

[18:33] >> thank you again.

[18:34] Next agenda item, please.

[18:35] >> thank you, moving on the

[18:37] item 2 is a presentation on

[18:38] the san mateo county

[18:39] accessory

[18:42] dwelling unit adu resource

[18:43] center.

[18:44] >> good evening, mayor, vice

[18:46] MAY yo, councilmembers, billy

[18:47] gross with the planning

[18:48] commission and I have the

[18:50] pleasure of presenting the

[18:51] next speaker.

[18:53] As you all know, the adu

[18:55] resource center of san mateo

[19:00] county opened in 2024.

[19:02] It's intended as a one stop

[19:03] shop for adu resources.

[19:04] We thought it would be the

[19:06] director had offered to come

[19:08] and speak so we thought it

[19:09] would be good as we were

[19:10] going

[19:12] to be in front of you talk

[19:16] about the general plan and

[19:17] housing project, so I would

[19:25] like to introduce anna

[19:26] alekseyeva, she'll go through

[19:27] the program.

[19:28] >> thank you for giving me an

[19:30] opportunity to present the

[19:30] adu

[19:31] resource center.

[19:32] I want to give you a sense of

[19:35] what the center is all about

[19:37] sdp&services it provides to

[19:38] home owners in member

[19:39] justices

[19:39] teases including south city.

[19:40] Before I do that, I wanted to

[19:42] set the stage a little bit

[19:44] about adu's in the state and

[19:45] more locally which you will

[19:48] probably be familiar with.

[19:50] Adu's are really popular

[19:52] housing typology, ever since

[19:55] the state started

[19:56] liberalizing

[19:57] adu statute across

[19:57] california,

[20:00] the number of adu's that are

[20:02] built every single year has

[20:04] grown something like 15

[20:07] thousand percent, so hugely,

[20:10] hugely popular housing type.

[20:11] Most recent data suggesters

[20:14] that one in five new units in

[20:15] california housing units is

[20:15] an

[20:17] adu, if you look at lower

[20:19] income or very low income,

[20:20] housing units, that

[20:21] percentage

[20:23] is high e more than one third

[20:24] of housing units are adu's,

[20:25] so

[20:26] of course it's not the only

[20:28] housing type but it is an

[20:29] important one across the

[20:30] state

[20:31] and more locally in sn mateo

[20:33] and in south city.

[20:35] And I think billy aluded to

[20:37] the housing element and

[20:38] progress the city has made

[20:40] around the most recent rhna

[20:42] cycle but south city has a

[20:44] goal of producing almost 400

[20:47] adu's in the current 8 year

[20:48] rhna cycle of which the

[20:50] majority are projected to be

[20:52] at the low icome or very low

[20:53] income levels.

[20:56] So we like adu's for a lot of

[20:56] reasons.

[20:58] One, because it's a housing

[21:03] type and more housing is GOD

[21:05] but they're also a housing

[21:07] type, they allow for

[21:08] multigenerational living,

[21:09] they

[21:12] have a wealth building tool,

[21:14] they are smaller so they have

[21:14] environmental and

[21:15] sustainability benefit and is

[21:17] we know older adults like

[21:18] them

[21:20] because they allow them to

[21:20] age

[21:21] in place without having to

[21:22] leave their community.

[21:24] Is wah is adu resource

[21:24] center,

[21:27] it was launched in SEPTEMBER

[21:31] of 2024, so we just had our

[21:33] six month birthday, not --

[21:34] still baby hood when it comes

[21:36] to being an organization, but

[21:37] wanted to share some of the

[21:40] services we have live already.

[21:41] Working with jurisdictions

[21:42] and

[21:43] with home owners.

[21:45] It is a non-profit

[21:46] organization, the funding

[21:48] primarily comes from local

[21:49] jurisdictions like south city

[21:50] f city.

[21:52] The goal is t drive housing

[21:53] production by being a one

[21:54] stop

[21:56] shop to help get adu's built.

[21:59] We do that through two

[22:00] different mechanisms, one is

[22:02] working with jurisdictions to

[22:04] meet their adu policy goals

[22:06] and the second is working

[22:07] with

[22:08] home owners directly

[22:09] providing

[22:10] resources and direct

[22:10] technical

[22:11] assistance so I wanted to

[22:11] give

[22:13] you a flavor of each of these

[22:16] areas so you know what's

[22:19] offered to residents and sto

[22:20] -- to staff, the center

[22:22] provides a raping of support

[22:24] around housing element

[22:25] implementation related to adu

[22:27] policy goals, it elapses

[22:28] jurisdictions stay in

[22:30] compliance with hcd

[22:31] expectations and understand

[22:33] what the latest adu statutes,

[22:36] rules and standards are.

[22:37] And helps jurisdictions stay

[22:40] up to date about the latest

[22:42] adu best practices and what's

[22:44] going on at the state level.

[22:47] As you all probably know very

[22:49] well, state housing law

[22:51] changes rapidly, every sickle

[22:53] year, that is the same for

[22:53] adu

[22:54] laws, so every single year,

[22:56] there's a slate of new adu

[22:57] bills that are passed and go

[22:59] into effect and it can be

[22:59] hard

[23:01] to keep up with any o them.

[23:02] And so one of the roles of

[23:03] the

[23:05] center is to make sure that

[23:07] staff understand what the

[23:08] latest rules and statutes

[23:09] are,

[23:11] going to go through a lecture

[23:11] of the adu standards because

[23:14] that would be an a hour

[23:15] lecture, as you can see on

[23:15] the

[23:17] right hand side of the slide,

[23:19] I noted a few laws that went

[23:21] into effect this year, all of

[23:23] them in some way, shape or

[23:24] form encouraging adu's are

[23:26] making it easier to build

[23:27] adu's.

[23:28] One law I want to call to

[23:28] your

[23:30] attention in particular is

[23:32] legalization of unpermitted

[23:34] units, so the state as of

[23:37] JANUARY of this year has made

[23:39] it easier the legalize

[23:44] unpermitted adu's, we no in

[23:47] some place, the ratio is one

[23:48] to three depending on the

[23:49] jurisdiction, this has a

[23:51] potential to have pretty

[23:52] substantial long term effects

[23:54] down the road in terms of

[23:55] bringing unpermitted units on

[23:56] to the market.

[23:57] Something else that the

[23:57] center

[24:04] is working on is it's working

[24:07] on affordable adu program,

[24:08] these programs have been

[24:08] tried

[24:09] in different place ins

[24:10] california and adrsz

[24:11] f cross

[24:11] the knotty

[24:12] f ri.

[24:15] What they do is provide some

[24:16] financial incentive for home

[24:18] own teaser build an adu and

[24:19] those home owners are

[24:19] required

[24:22] to rent their adu's at

[24:24] affordable rates so it's

[24:25] below

[24:26] market rate housing program

[24:28] that subsidizes home owners

[24:28] directly.

[24:29] There's interesting pilots

[24:31] that have been tried in

[24:32] different places that we're

[24:34] exploring and the goal is to

[24:36] have a program model that any

[24:37] jurisdiction in the county

[24:37] can

[24:39] participate in with the goal

[24:40] of launching next year, so

[24:43] very excited about that and

[24:44] innovating in that space.

[24:46] And in terms of the services

[24:48] to hope own oers, you can

[24:48] find

[24:53] a lot of information on the

[24:54] website, smadu.Org, this is

[24:55] just some of the resources we

[24:59] have op the website, a very

[25:00] comprehensive guide book

[25:01] around the different stages

[25:02] of

[25:04] building an adu specific to

[25:06] with local information, we

[25:09] have local rules for every

[25:10] jurisdiction including south

[25:12] city, we have stories of

[25:13] residents who have built

[25:14] adu's

[25:16] in different use case, we

[25:16] have

[25:18] a proprietary tol that

[25:18] allows

[25:21] people to put in some details

[25:22] about a prospective project

[25:25] and get an estimate of the

[25:26] projected project cost and is

[25:28] the return on investment

[25:28] which

[25:30] they can expect which is

[25:30] based

[25:32] on hyperlocal construction

[25:32] data.

[25:35] and w also do and

[25:36] increasingly are rolling ot

[25:38] service that is are direct

[25:39] technical assistance to home

[25:40] owners which we're excited

[25:42] about, so starting next

[25:43] month,

[25:44] residents o member

[25:45] jurisdictions, including

[25:46] residents of city are going

[25:48] the have ak says to a free

[25:49] feasibility consult s

[25:49] frs

[25:51] where they can talk with an

[25:53] adu expert for an hour, get a

[25:55] sense of what is possible on

[25:56] their property talk through

[25:59] their goals and get a free

[26:01] customized report on

[26:01] recommendations.

[26:03] We have a homeowner help line

[26:06] which is like a hotline when

[26:07] they're in the process of

[26:11] building an adu if they have

[26:13] an issue, we have a range of

[26:16] educational content and

[26:16] resources.

[26:17] We've launched a webinar

[26:19] series wth a few successful

[26:21] webinars that a couple of

[26:22] hundred people have attended

[26:23] already.

[26:24] Next week we're hosting

[26:26] another webinar about adu

[26:28] financing, so really want to

[26:29] delve into different topics

[26:30] we

[26:32] know are of interest to home

[26:33] owners.

[26:34] And finally this is just a

[26:37] list of the center's member

[26:38] jurisdictions, we're thankful

[26:41] for everyone who

[26:41] participates,

[26:43] san mateo is unique in the

[26:44] collaboration that is across

[26:45] jurisdiction asks the

[26:47] existence of the center is

[26:47] one

[26:49] example of that

[26:49] collaboration,

[26:51] so thankful to south city as

[26:53] well as all the other member

[26:54] jurisdictions for supporting

[26:56] the role of the center and

[26:59] with that, I will open it up

[27:00] to questions if there are any.

[27:04] >> thank you very much.

[27:06] Any questions or comments?

[27:09] >> I think it's perfect that

[27:11] you are presenting since we

[27:12] just gave a certificate to

[27:14] fair housing as well.

[27:17] And adu is a major part of

[27:18] affordable housing.

[27:25] It's been a while that I did

[27:26] an adu presentation, there's

[27:27] one of your slides that

[27:27] talked

[27:28] about the primary owner

[27:29] couldn't reside in the adu.

[27:31] >> yes.

[27:32] >> so, yeah, I want to

[27:33] clarify

[27:35] to make sure I got it right.

[27:39] So, if a homeowner builds an

[27:41] adu, that junior adu or full

[27:46] adu cannot be their primary

[27:48] residencey for that

[27:48] particular

[27:49] homeowner?

[27:49] >> no, it can be, if you're

[27:50] referencing no owner

[27:50] occupancy.

[27:51] Thafrjts's where I was

[27:52] confused on the rule.

[27:54] >> no, yeah, sorry, that's --

[27:57] it's kind of phrased

[27:59] awkwardly, what that means is

[28:01] that a jurisdiction can't

[28:03] prevent owner occupancy, so

[28:04] --

[28:05] or can't enforce owner

[28:06] occupancy, you don't have to

[28:08] be an owner occupant to build

[28:11] an adu, that's what it means.

[28:13] >> for a a lot o folks who

[28:15] are aging out in terms of

[28:16] home

[28:18] ownership or they want to

[28:19] reduce their size, a junior

[28:22] adu or an adu is a perfect

[28:24] play for folks to transition

[28:25] to and potentially rent out

[28:26] their home.

[28:28] >> absolutely, and there's a

[28:28] -

[28:31] new state law that's

[28:32] referenced here, canonization

[28:36] that is an optional law that

[28:38] allows jurisdiction tos enact

[28:40] an ordinance to sell the adu

[28:41] separately.

[28:43] >> that's a new law now?

[28:48] >> yes, san jose enacted,

[28:50] it's the first jurisdiction

[28:51] statewide that enacted it and

[28:52] san francisco is apparently

[28:53] in

[28:53] discussions.

[28:54] It's an interesting

[28:56] opportunity to caoe kate

[28:56] f

[28:58] yait a stock of starter homes

[29:00] from adu's.

[29:02] >> so, they have to enact

[29:02] that

[29:03] law for that to happen?

[29:06] >> t yes, it's an opt-in law.

[29:08] I'm looking at sky now.

[29:09] You're going to jump in

[29:13] >>?

[29:15] Nell selander, your questions

[29:18] are preserving one rving --

[29:19] preempting one of the

[29:21] council's extra strategic

[29:23] goals is more diversity in

[29:25] housing stock and more

[29:26] particularly home ownership,

[29:28] this is one of the task items

[29:29] you might see in a future

[29:30] report on those strategic

[29:33] goals is do we want to

[29:35] consider this locally as a

[29:36] pretty easy pathway into home

[29:37] ownership.

[29:40] >> great, thank you, nell.

[29:42] >> it's exciting and san jose

[29:44] just enacted this in the last

[29:46] one and a half year sos it's

[29:48] excite tog se -- a lot of

[29:49] jurisdictions twaont see what

[29:52] happen ins san jose, but in

[29:53] seattle, in portland where

[29:57] this exists, I mean, it's a

[29:59] massive part of new home

[29:59] starters.

[30:01] >> great, thank you for the

[30:01] information.

[30:04] Great, any other questions,

[30:05] comments?

[30:06] Community, this is a great

[30:07] resource, please take

[30:08] advantage.

[30:10] We are a member city, so

[30:11] please utilize the resources.

[30:12] Thank you again fr the

[30:13] presentation for coming

[30:13] tonight.

[30:15] >> thank you very much.

[30:17] >> next agenda item, please.

[30:17] Er

[30:20] >> moving on to council

[30:20] comments/requests.

[30:22] >> great.

[30:22] Would who

[30:23] would like to

[30:23] -

[30:25] start

[30:28] sharing?

[30:30] >> you're look at me so I

[30:31] will

[30:31] go first.

[30:32] Thank you, MR. Mayor.

[30:38] A lot of great events that I

[30:40] attended, the holly event, it

[30:42] was such a great event to

[30:43] celebrate our diversity.

[30:46] It was a avery colorful

[30:47] event, there's great pictures

[30:49] of myself and councilmember

[30:51] nicolas with bright paint on

[30:52] our face, so I look forward

[30:53] to

[30:55] as that event grows every

[30:57] year, so I'm looking forward

[30:57] to it.

[30:59] And I think councilmember

[31:00] nicolas and I are hoping by

[31:03] next year we're throwing

[31:03] paint

[31:04] -- yeah, so staff might be

[31:09] freaking out as I say that.

[31:10] I went to a wonderful event

[31:14] with the mayor and

[31:18] councilmember coleman, we

[31:21] attended the naac99th gala

[31:22] celebration where there were

[31:24] leaders across the region

[31:25] that

[31:27] celebrate the san mateo

[31:27] county

[31:29] chapter and our very own

[31:32] superintendent of schools,

[31:33] shantera moore was

[31:34] recognized,

[31:35] it was great to see her and

[31:36] all of the accomplishments

[31:37] she

[31:38] was able to put together.

[31:40] I had a great meeting with

[31:41] the

[31:41] westborough water district.

[31:43] I know staff was there, I'm

[31:45] going plug them for our

[31:46] westborough residents, make

[31:48] sure you pay your water bill

[31:48] on time.

[31:50] They have a lot of great

[31:51] resources and I look forward

[31:52] to continuing the part naer

[31:55] ship with the water district

[31:56] and if heresies any

[31:58] information they want to

[31:59] provide in terms of our

[32:01] constituents, I know that the

[32:02] mayor would be willing to

[32:05] provide that information on

[32:05] to

[32:07] his newsletter.

[32:09] And then last week I had a

[32:11] town hall with about 50

[32:14] residents and we had a lot of

[32:16] great questions from the

[32:18] audience specifically about

[32:20] traffic, about public safety

[32:23] and we had the police chief,

[32:25] the fire chief, public works

[32:26] and we had a great

[32:27] presentation about what's

[32:29] coming in terms of our new

[32:32] child care center up in

[32:33] westborough and a lot of

[32:34] great

[32:36] feedback from residents, I

[32:38] know we're following up for w

[32:39] a lot of residents in term

[32:40] ofs

[32:40] their questions, I've been

[32:43] doing it for the lst 7 years

[32:44] now, to see all those

[32:46] residents come out and ask

[32:47] questions and engaging

[32:48] witching staff because I know

[32:49] this is how w can continue

[32:49] to

[32:51] engage with our residents and

[32:54] a lot of things we're able to

[32:58] accomplish in terms of stop

[33:00] signs and curbs came from

[33:01] these town halls, people were

[33:02] interested how do I get a

[33:02] stop

[33:03] sign in my neighborhood and

[33:06] there's a process for that.

[33:07] With that, MR. Mayor, that's

[33:08] all I have, thank you.

[33:10] >> thank you, councilmember.

[33:13] Anyone else?

[33:15] Go ahead, MR. Vice mayor.

[33:17] >> thank you, mayor flores,

[33:19] the nice thing about being

[33:24] vice mayor to a mayor who is

[33:26] actively involved and a

[33:27] demanding career is he can't

[33:28] attend everything so

[33:28] sometimes

[33:30] he sends the vice mayor, so

[33:32] about a week ago on the 19th,

[33:37] I was out at biomed, the

[33:39] campus's gateway on oyster

[33:41] point boulevard for a ribbon

[33:44] cutting for a new food

[33:44] vendor,

[33:45] proper food, and proper food

[33:48] is moving fast f you go the

[33:52] san francisco, they're on

[33:53] every mayor employment

[33:53] center,

[33:54] so they have quite a

[33:55] following

[33:58] already, so we did a ribbon

[34:00] cutting and then a tour of

[34:02] biomed who still remains vry

[34:04] bullish on what has happened

[34:05] and will continue to hppen

[34:05] in

[34:06] south san francisco.

[34:09] The next day I found myself

[34:12] and again the mayor was at

[34:13] the

[34:14] skyline college PRESIDENT's

[34:15] breakfast and that's 7:30 the

[34:17] morning, as many of you know,

[34:20] I'm a little older than the

[34:22] average colleague up here and

[34:27] I don't do 7:30 willingly

[34:27] very

[34:28] often, he convinced he I

[34:31] needed to be tere, it was my

[34:34] first time building 12 at

[34:36] skyline college, it looks out

[34:38] into the pacific ocean and

[34:40] it's inspirational, it's an

[34:41] amazing venue for an event,

[34:45] they had well over 240 people

[34:48] there and they had a dj, mc,

[34:52] and the music was gj quality,

[34:54] the early hour and the dj

[34:56] music, I found a table way in

[34:57] the corner and it worked okay

[34:59] for me.

[35:02] The previous saturday on

[35:02] MARCH

[35:03] 15, I spent a lot hof time

[35:09] with the mayor lately, he put

[35:10] together cafecito, this was a

[35:16] second one, this was on the

[35:22] star bucks on mclellan drive,

[35:23] I met new people in the

[35:25] district and to see them get

[35:27] involved and care about their

[35:28] community and one of them is

[35:30] in the audience tonight,

[35:32] hello, anne trres, thank you

[35:33] for joining us.

[35:34] That's always great to see.

[35:35] She's been a a resident of

[35:37] south san francisco since the

[35:39] 70's and to see hr

[35:40] willingness to get involved

[35:43] and play a role is truly

[35:44] remarkable, so it was all

[35:45] worthwhile.

[35:46] >> great.

[35:49] >> and then we found

[35:50] ourselves

[35:53] out of south san francisco at

[35:56] the japan town center for a

[35:56] special exhibit for our

[35:57] sister

[35:58] city in japan is kish shi

[35:59] watt

[36:00] ta, the cultural district up

[36:01] there was doing a rbbon

[36:03] cutting for a special x

[36:03] I

[36:04] exhibit for the three sister

[36:06] city that is are here in san

[36:06] -

[36:07] mateo county.

[36:08] We were joined by the former

[36:11] MAY yr of daly city, they

[36:11] just

[36:13] initiated just last year or

[36:16] this year a new sister city

[36:17] that we'll be visiting

[36:17] shortly.

[36:19] This is a a great segway,

[36:19] I've

[36:20] mentioned we are looking for

[36:22] people that might want to

[36:24] travel to japan with the

[36:25] sister city's committee, we

[36:26] are not quite maxed out of

[36:27] the

[36:28] trip, there still might be a

[36:29] a

[36:31] couple of openings but I

[36:32] understand that COUNCILWOMAN

[36:33] Nicolas and her husband might

[36:35] be joining us so there's even

[36:36] less space.

[36:40] Anyway, on SEPTEMBER 12th, we

[36:41] fly to japan and we don't

[36:43] return until the 27th but

[36:44] we're going there to be part

[36:47] of the sister city

[36:48] international committee which

[36:51] is being hosted in diernl not

[36:53] going to get the name right,

[36:55] in the small city daly city

[36:57] is

[36:58] twined with, we'll spend some

[37:02] time in osaka, there's an

[37:03] international expo that goes

[37:05] for a number of months, we'll

[37:07] be in osaka for a little bit

[37:09] and find our way to tokyo

[37:11] where we'll all be

[37:11] overwhelmed

[37:12] by the energy there and fly

[37:14] home, so there are still

[37:15] opportunities if you're

[37:15] interested.

[37:19] We can send you the itinerary

[37:21] and the particulars.

[37:24] And then I guess -- oh, and

[37:27] I'm looking forward -- very

[37:29] much looking forward to

[37:29] monday

[37:32] MARCH 31, I have rceive add

[37:33] guarantee from city hall from

[37:34] the city manager's office

[37:35] that

[37:39] on that day, we will begin

[37:39] removing the derelict vehicle

[37:43] that is are in the oyster

[37:49] cove, vao that -- vehicles

[37:50] that have completely sunk.

[37:52] Do you know what time we're

[37:52] starting?

[37:53] >> I don't know, we will find

[37:53] out.

[37:55] >> we're going to start with

[37:56] ten of the worst vehicles,

[37:58] pulling them out of the water

[37:59] and destroying them on-site

[38:01] and I'm going to cheer every

[38:01] one of those.

[38:02] Er

[38:02] >> just one bit of

[38:03] information that I haven't

[38:04] shared with council yet, I

[38:06] believe three of the vehicles

[38:08] that we -- or the boats that

[38:11] we were going to hve

[38:12] removed,

[38:14] once they were posted, they

[38:16] left of their own accord,

[38:16] each

[38:18] removal is very costly, so

[38:21] that was good news to us.

[38:26] >> monday MARCH 31 out near

[38:26] the ac mare yo

[38:27] t hotel, we're

[38:28] going to get started on that

[38:30] day and there will be more to

[38:31] come, thank you, MR. Mayor.

[38:40] >> tank you, well said.

[38:47] >> so, I was also able to

[38:50] attend the naacp gala and I

[38:52] want to also congratulate the

[38:54] honorees, also last week I

[38:56] attended the orange park

[38:58] memorial pool beam topping

[39:01] where we signed the last I

[39:02] guess team that will b used

[39:04] for the structure of the pool

[39:05] and they are building that

[39:07] pool quickly and I can't be

[39:19] more excited and I guess

[39:21] weather permissible, I hope

[39:21] it

[39:22] will be done soon.

[39:24] I want to thank everyone for

[39:26] making that possible.

[39:27] That is all I have for

[39:28] tonight.

[39:28] >> COUNCILWOMAN?

[39:34] >> and for that kish wad da

[39:36] trip, we are paying our own

[39:37] way websinger are making sure.

[39:40] So, as a testament for us

[39:41] being an inclusive community,

[39:44] I did enjoy the holy

[39:46] celebration and shout-out to

[39:55] ver con ka ortiz, devon

[39:57] stenhouse for the celebration.

[40:00] We don't know that we're

[40:01] going

[40:03] to be having a bigger

[40:05] celebration next year, and

[40:10] then also I attended on MARCH

[40:13] 20 the third sister

[40:14] leadership

[40:15] conference, all of those who

[40:17] don't know about the sister

[40:18] and sister leadership

[40:19] conference, it's something

[40:22] that's been going on in santa

[40:23] clara county for the last 30

[40:25] years, I brought it to san

[40:26] mateo county three years ago,

[40:28] the first two years were held

[40:30] here in the south san

[40:34] francisco and that's for

[40:34] asian

[40:36] american native hawaiian,

[40:38] pacific islander girls who

[40:38] are

[40:40] from sixth grade to high

[40:44] school and there's a lot of

[40:45] women empowerment sessions

[40:47] that we go through making

[40:48] sure

[40:49] that they're comfortable and

[40:51] this year's theme is

[40:52] embracing

[40:54] the journey, so they heard

[40:55] about people who are

[40:57] successful now and how they

[40:58] had gone through difficulties

[41:01] in life and we are -- we keep

[41:03] on telling them they're more

[41:05] than enough, so we had the

[41:05] big

[41:06] group from -- and I'm so

[41:07] happy

[41:09] to have a big group from

[41:13] westborough middle school in

[41:15] alta loma, el camino and

[41:16] south

[41:17] city high school, so it was a

[41:19] a wonderful event for all the

[41:20] young ladies, and I also

[41:21] would

[41:22] like to request that we

[41:24] adjourn the meeting in memory

[41:27] of one of the persons I met

[41:29] when we were just beginning

[41:31] our life here in south san

[41:35] francisco, he was the founder

[41:38] of [Inaudible] Dance company,

[41:39] a filipino dance cmpany

[41:40] where

[41:43] my children started dancing,

[41:44] filipino folk dancing and

[41:46] having the love for art and

[41:46] is

[41:52] music, his name is bonafo sta

[41:56] balera junior and MS.

[41:57] Maurice

[41:58] copia and MAY their memories

[41:59] serve as a blessing.

[42:00] >> I appreciate that, the

[42:01] good

[42:02] thing about being mayor is

[42:03] all

[42:05] of you share the places we've

[42:06] already been so I say check,

[42:09] check, check, thank you to

[42:09] the

[42:09] va

[42:10] is mayor for subbing in.

[42:12] A lot of folks don't realize

[42:14] that being mayor and being

[42:16] councilmember, it naoets a

[42:19] full

[42:19] time job, many of us have a

[42:20] full time job like many of

[42:20] you

[42:21] working 8-5 five day as week

[42:22] so I appreciate that very

[42:22] much

[42:23] to be able to cover, I'm

[42:24] grateful to the resident and

[42:26] is the community members that

[42:28] stopped by for our cafecito

[42:30] with the myor x the vice

[42:33] mayor, it's not just district

[42:34] 1 residents, there were just

[42:36] like the last cafecito we

[42:37] had,

[42:38] residents from all over south

[42:40] san francisco and this is

[42:42] really what it is, it's

[42:43] bringing different

[42:44] neighborhoods together, it's

[42:45] a

[42:46] a little national night out

[42:46] on

[42:47] a saturday morning with

[42:48] coffee

[42:50] so it's great to see some

[42:52] parents stop by on their way

[42:53] to baseball practice or other

[42:55] endeavors on a saturday

[42:56] morning, but building

[42:56] xhaoent,

[42:58] it's really what it's about.

[42:59] There's still many

[42:59] individuals

[43:00] that say, you live right

[43:02] there, I liver right there,

[43:04] you work right there, I'm a

[43:05] history buff as the vice

[43:06] mayor

[43:09] knows and hearing about the

[43:11] old macy's warehouses before

[43:13] the costco years here in

[43:13] south

[43:14] city is a great time so I

[43:15] appreciate that and we do it

[43:16] in different ways.

[43:18] We engage with our community

[43:19] in different ways.

[43:22] I was also happy to join

[43:23] councilmember nagales at his

[43:24] community meeting as well

[43:25] websinger ear out there and

[43:26] connecting and sharing the

[43:27] information so I appreciate

[43:30] all of you, everyone is

[43:30] welcome, stay tuned because

[43:31] we

[43:32] have many more coming during

[43:34] the course of this year.

[43:36] Indeed I attended some of the

[43:37] ve lents that were already

[43:37] shared.

[43:39] I do want to point a little

[43:40] bit of some of the work I'm

[43:43] doing here with the support

[43:46] of our city staff and city

[43:47] manager.

[43:49] We hosted and met our new

[43:52] assembly member and the state

[43:52] legislature, catherine

[43:54] stephanie who represents

[43:55] assembly dstrict 19, we

[43:57] hosted her last week at south

[44:00] city at our city hall and

[44:01] discussed many important

[44:03] policy issues, many assembly

[44:04] bills but also things that

[44:04] are

[44:06] really important to south san

[44:08] francisco and this is a great

[44:10] opportunity to really say

[44:10] this

[44:12] has been something that has

[44:14] ben filets our community and

[44:16] we need additional support on

[44:18] this, she was extremely open,

[44:20] extremely welcoming and

[44:21] extremely willing to work,

[44:21] her

[44:22] and her team, I want to

[44:24] acknowledge and recognize we

[44:25] have a strong -- another

[44:28] representative in the state

[44:28] legislature.

[44:29] We're very lucky here in

[44:30] south

[44:31] san francisco, we have two

[44:33] state senators covering, we

[44:35] have two assembly members, we

[44:37] have two also members of the

[44:38] san mateo county board of

[44:40] supervisors, we have two san

[44:42] mateo county board of

[44:44] education trustees, so we're

[44:45] -- we're well represented and

[44:50] again it's about advocacy,

[44:52] it's about ensuring that our

[44:54] policy priorities that we

[44:54] will

[44:56] discuss later are well spoken

[44:59] for as well.

[45:00] I did want to talk about

[45:02] upcoming and you'll start

[45:05] seeing some of the promotions

[45:07] websinger are on APRIL 5 and

[45:08] I

[45:09] believe the 19th, we're

[45:10] moving

[45:12] forward with south san

[45:13] francisco neighborhood

[45:13] cleanup.

[45:15] In particular, kick it off in

[45:18] some of the areas most

[45:19] affected, downtown, old town

[45:21] where we see a lot of illegal

[45:21] dumping.

[45:27] We kicked tis off last year,

[45:28] it was extremely successful.

[45:28] Thank tos the support of our

[45:29] staff, we couldn't do it,

[45:30] also

[45:30] our volunteer, people that

[45:32] came out early on saturday

[45:32] and

[45:34] we held it it on sunday, this

[45:36] year is both on saturdays,

[45:40] this is part of an initiative

[45:42] I'm so thrilled about, clean

[45:44] ssf, part of that we envision

[45:46] providing you with some

[45:48] shovels, sme picks and some

[45:50] garbage bag and is lending

[45:50] you

[45:53] some gloves and come out and

[45:55] build community, cleaning up

[45:56] our neighborhoods, you'll see

[45:57] that on social media, you'll

[45:59] see that in my newsletter

[46:01] coming up so I want to

[46:02] welcome

[46:04] all residents, even visitors

[46:06] of south san francisco to

[46:08] partake and join me and staff

[46:13] and let's clean up south san

[46:13] francisco.

[46:15] With that in mind, I'm excite

[46:16] ted share with our city

[46:18] manager that south san

[46:20] francisco should be pursuing

[46:21] the [Inaudible] Designation,

[46:23] that is the clean california

[46:23] designation.

[46:24] I would like the share that,

[46:27] this is a special initiative

[46:30] designation put on by the

[46:31] governor's office and managed

[46:33] by cal trans and it really

[46:35] honors communities that are

[46:37] dedicated to doing something

[46:38] about it, not just saying,

[46:40] well, we got to blame so and

[46:42] so or that agency has to come

[46:44] up and step up for us, so it

[46:47] really brings a sense of

[46:48] community, it's improving the

[46:50] health, it's improving our e

[46:51] economy and it's really aso

[46:58] as part of this designation,

[46:58] it's allowing south city to

[47:00] apply for money torx apply

[47:00] for

[47:01] grants that potentially could

[47:04] support us in continuing to

[47:07] clean up south city and all

[47:08] locations in every area that

[47:13] you can imagine, so, the

[47:13] first

[47:15] hundred designated

[47:16] communities

[47:16] will continue to receive this

[47:17] resource.

[47:18] There are already cities,

[47:19] bakersfield, fresno, irvine,

[47:21] la, can dewing that are part

[47:22] of this initiative and I want

[47:23] to se our city be

[47:23] represented

[47:24] as well.

[47:26] Now just turning a little

[47:28] different lens, I did want to

[47:30] ask our city manager if we

[47:31] could look into two items

[47:32] that

[47:34] I've been monitoring as I'm

[47:36] driving around connecting

[47:36] with

[47:37] neighborhoods and different

[47:39] shopping centers, there are

[47:40] certain donation insets in

[47:41] various parking lotuses and

[47:43] shopping centers, one in

[47:46] particular is the parking lot

[47:48] right behind five guys

[47:48] burgers

[47:49] in westborough square, as I

[47:55] was there this weekend, it

[47:58] wasn't a nice sited to look

[48:00] at, I would like to see if we

[48:02] could work with the donation

[48:04] vendor, how often they clean

[48:06] up and that sort of thing.

[48:07] The oher thing I started

[48:10] noticing is on weekends, many

[48:13] amazon trucks are parking for

[48:15] more than whatever it is,

[48:18] saturdays and sundays, taking

[48:19] up perhaps a parking lot that

[48:21] could be for residents so I

[48:23] want to look at are there

[48:26] amazon parking lots that are

[48:27] designated, in particular in

[48:28] district 5, I'm seeing in

[48:29] many

[48:31] of our surface city parking

[48:34] lotuses, there's a lot of

[48:35] amazon distribution delivery

[48:36] trucks on there, so I would

[48:37] like to follow up and discuss

[48:39] a little bit on that.

[48:41] >> we're happy to do that.

[48:43] >> thank you.

[48:48] Lastly I want to adjourn in

[48:52] the memory of jose flores.

[48:54] He passed away suddenly this

[48:54] mo

[48:57] bt, I met jose at my

[48:59] swearing in this past

[49:03] DECEMBER, he's the father of

[49:04] douglas cotoad1 resident and

[49:05] a

[49:07] graduate of our citizens

[49:09] academy, I would like to

[49:09] honor

[49:11] and my his manly continue to

[49:12] be a blessing for all tloez

[49:16] and equally with the names

[49:17] that COUNCILWOMAN Flor

[49:17] nicolas

[49:19] shared, our condolences to

[49:20] those families and loved ones.

[49:23] Thank you, that's all I had.

[49:24] Next agenda item, please.

[49:25] >> thank you, mayor, we will

[49:26] now move on to public comment

[49:29] and is we will begin with

[49:38] cynthia markopoulos.

[49:40] >> good evening, at the

[49:42] JANUARY 9, 1985 city council

[49:46] meeting, the clerk's minutes

[49:47] documented mayor hafy's

[49:49] comments about the surplus

[49:51] magnolia building stating "to

[49:52] provide housing was important

[49:55] but should not overshadow the

[49:56] senior center and I should

[49:57] be

[49:58] revitalized for seniors and

[50:00] use of the community".

[50:02] The most recent e-mail to

[50:05] attendees of magnolia teglia

[50:08] center is they will be

[50:13] relocated to the bola center

[50:14] for months, and mingling

[50:14] adult

[50:16] widths daycare center where

[50:18] mayor edie said it was a

[50:21] concern having adults with

[50:23] young kids.

[50:25] I agree with you, mayor

[50:25] eddie,

[50:26] that history is important

[50:28] learning about macy's

[50:30] warehouse, etc., the

[50:32] historical society and

[50:33] library

[50:34] have limited if no

[50:35] information

[50:38] on the msb even though they

[50:40] had orange library grand

[50:43] avenue's information as well.

[50:44] As we witnessed over decades

[50:46] in history, it is to wipe out

[50:48] any mem ray or eliminate any

[50:50] significance of something but

[50:52] we have researched the past

[50:54] thorough clerk's minutes over

[50:57] the past six decades

[50:58] documenting the importance of

[51:00] the msb and we will not let

[51:03] you forget it especially when

[51:04] 30% of our population is 55

[51:07] years and older and that the

[51:09] msb had 188 thousand visitors

[51:11] annually and was the most

[51:11] used

[51:14] facility as noted in jim

[51:15] steel's staff report.

[51:18] I copied each of you in an

[51:21] e-mail to marie patea, not

[51:21] one

[51:21] replay

[51:23] f mri for you, I put

[51:25] in a public records request

[51:27] dated MARCH 14 and I received

[51:29] an extension on MARCH 24

[51:30] specifically addressing the

[51:32] special city council meeting

[51:33] of APRIL 29.

[51:35] Let hope in fairness it is

[51:37] complied with in ample time

[51:39] before the 29th meeting

[51:40] concerning the msb.

[51:43] Thank you.

[51:45] >> thank you, MADAM City

[51:46] manager, can you confirm the

[51:47] date, time and location for

[51:49] the upcoming meeting, please.

[51:52] >> for the msb study session?

[51:53] >> yes.

[51:55] >> it's wednesday APRIL 29

[51:57] here at the library parks and

[51:58] recreation council chambers

[51:59] at

[51:59] 6:30.

[52:02] >> thank you.

[52:04] >> thank you, mayor, if I MAY

[52:05] add for that specific

[52:06] meeting,

[52:09] we intend to have the agenda

[52:11] published by friday APRIL 25.

[52:12] >> thank you.

[52:29] Moving on the sam ch icuti.

[52:33] >> mayor flores, board

[52:33] member,

[52:34] south san francisco city

[52:36] council, my name is sam, I'm

[52:38] glad that the city council

[52:38] has

[52:40] finally decided to have a

[52:41] special meeting for the msb

[52:43] next month on the 29th.

[52:44] After all, it's only been two

[52:48] and a half years.

[52:50] I suppose that the city

[52:51] council imagined that the

[52:52] coalition of citizens against

[52:53] tearing down the msb would

[52:57] have dissipated by now.

[52:59] That in and of itself is

[53:00] short

[53:01] sighted by this council.

[53:04] As you have heard in past

[53:06] meetings, more than 30% of

[53:09] south san francisco residents

[53:10] are retired, will be retired

[53:13] or are close to retirement in

[53:15] a very short period of time.

[53:20] I recently saw a youtube

[53:20] video

[53:22] of the city council meeting

[53:23] of

[53:23] last AUGUST.

[53:24] In this video, the city

[53:27] planner of south san

[53:27] francisco

[53:29] tony said almost all

[53:29] available

[53:31] parcels of land owned by

[53:31] south

[53:33] san francisco have been or

[53:34] are

[53:35] being developed.

[53:37] What exactly is the city

[53:38] council's outlook for south

[53:39] san francisco?

[53:40] Do they see south san

[53:45] francisco as a mini me to san

[53:46] francisco?

[53:47] Additional apartments are not

[53:48] the answer to those that have

[53:50] been residents of south san

[53:51] francisco for decades.

[53:53] Community center where w can

[53:56] can gather is a necessity for

[53:58] an aging populous.

[53:59] The magnolia center is

[54:01] certainly not the answer, it

[54:03] can barely accommodate the

[54:04] people going there now.

[54:07] What will happen when more

[54:08] people become seniors?

[54:10] Is this council's answer to

[54:11] go

[54:13] to the senior center in san

[54:14] bruno?

[54:16] Save the msb as a community

[54:18] center for us, thank you.

[54:21] >> thank you.

[54:37] Next up.

[54:39] >> a correction to the

[54:39] meeting

[54:43] is tuesday APRIL 29th, thank

[54:43] you.

[54:45] >> my apologies.

[54:47] >> now we're moving on to

[54:50] tony

[54:58] allen.

[55:01] >> good evening, my name is

[55:08] tony alan, I live near loss

[55:10] aritos, I wanted to just say

[55:13] thank you for your newsletter

[55:16] that comes out, mayor eddie,

[55:19] and I host english language

[55:21] students and I have students

[55:23] often that are spanish

[55:24] speaking or speak another

[55:26] language and I just really

[55:27] appreciate that your

[55:29] newsletter gave a whole lot

[55:30] of

[55:31] good information about how

[55:33] inclusive and diverse and how

[55:37] south san francisco really

[55:39] values our diversity and our

[55:41] inclusiveness and that you

[55:43] gave great resources and so

[55:44] please, I hope we continue to

[55:46] do that.

[55:47] I obviously came at the right

[55:52] time, I'm also an adu person

[55:54] and so I'm proud of south san

[55:55] francisco and I just wanted

[55:56] to

[55:56] mention that.

[55:57] Thank you.

[56:01] >> thank you.

[56:18] >> fianola?

[56:21] >> good evening,

[56:22] councilmembers, and everyone

[56:28] in the auditorium and

[56:29] watching.

[56:31] In 1977, the city exercised

[56:31] an

[56:34] option to purchase the value

[56:39] giant, also known as the

[56:42] municipal services building.

[56:45] 1977.

[56:47] You exercised the option and

[56:54] you purchased the building.

[56:59] That was quite a while ago.

[57:04] Now, in part, you needed

[57:05] extra

[57:06] space, documents, proof, one

[57:08] of the things you needed

[57:08] extra

[57:10] space for was a senior

[57:11] center,

[57:13] so you dedicated space at the

[57:19] msb for a senior center.

[57:20] Where MR. Rozzi is that

[57:22] documented in the

[57:23] environmental impact report

[57:28] with respect to with drawing

[57:28] a

[57:30] senior center, a dedicated

[57:32] senior center from tens of

[57:41] thousands of peopl

[57:42] in this city, where is that

[57:43] environmental impact report,

[57:43] it's supposed to

[57:45] document significant impacts,

[57:48] not documented.

[57:50] In addition, you put a

[57:54] proposition on the ballot to

[57:57] reimburse you for the payment

[58:01] of 1.39 million dollars for

[58:04] that property.

[58:08] You assessed 5 cents per

[58:11] hundred dollars, per hundred

[58:16] dollars, 5 cents, for 20

[58:16] years

[58:19] on taxable property in this

[58:20] city.

[58:23] We paid for that building

[58:24] over

[58:26] there, property owners did.

[58:30] Where's the money?

[58:33] I asked for an accounting of

[58:34] where that money is.

[58:34] How much money did you

[58:35] collect?

[58:38] You know, roughly speaking,

[58:44] let's say 44 thousand dollars

[58:46] was paid by a property over

[58:50] the 20 years, that's 350

[58:52] properties to cover that

[58:53] price, okay.

[58:56] Where is the money?

[58:57] I've requested that money --

[58:59] the accounting of that money

[59:03] from the city, mo response of

[59:04] records, I wonder why.

[59:06] The msb has been a cash cow

[59:09] for you as you know including

[59:10] the fire department which

[59:12] turned out to be political

[59:16] suicide, didn't it, MR.

[59:16] Addiego.

[59:17] Where's the money?

[59:18] Thank you.

[59:23] >> thank you.

[59:33] >> judy?

[59:34] >> my name's judy, I have

[59:35] been

[59:38] a a resident of south city

[59:39] since 1963, this is my home,

[59:39] I

[59:41] love it and I hate some of

[59:41] the

[59:42] changes I'm seeing.

[59:45] I would hate to see the msb

[59:48] building gone because we need

[59:52] it for groups.

[59:53] AUGUST 24, 2019, I was

[59:55] diagnosed with advanced

[59:55] breast

[59:56] cancer.

[59:58] What I found is that there is

[1:00:00] no breast cancer support

[1:00:02] group

[1:00:03] anywhere near, the closest

[1:00:03] one

[1:00:04] was san francisco which I

[1:00:06] don't care to g to at night.

[1:00:10] The other one was palo alto,

[1:00:11] that building would be

[1:00:11] perfect

[1:00:13] for a breast cancer support

[1:00:13] group.

[1:00:16] One in every four women get

[1:00:18] breast cancer during their

[1:00:19] lifetime and you need the

[1:00:19] support.

[1:00:21] I am currently in remission

[1:00:24] but I'm not cancer free.

[1:00:25] So, -- ask it was tough

[1:00:27] because like I said, 2019,

[1:00:27] the

[1:00:30] end of it, I was diagnosed,

[1:00:32] I'm -- I'll keep my time,

[1:00:33] eddie, don't worry.

[1:00:34] >> she hadn't started.

[1:00:35] Er

[1:00:37] >> that's okay, I'm aware,

[1:00:39] anyway, when I started, it

[1:00:39] was

[1:00:42] beginning of covid, going for

[1:00:44] cancer treatment, they're

[1:00:46] phenomenal at ucsf, during

[1:00:48] that time it was scary and

[1:00:49] not

[1:00:50] having a support system,

[1:00:52] you're in your home, you're

[1:00:56] isolating, it was very

[1:00:58] depressing and to be in your

[1:01:01] home alone fr years because

[1:01:08] you're immune -- immune know

[1:01:09] fomented was horrible ad I

[1:01:11] would like the start one in

[1:01:12] that building as soon as we

[1:01:14] decide not to demolish it,

[1:01:15] thank you.

[1:01:16] >> just for your information,

[1:01:18] so just for your iformation

[1:01:20] for breast cancer support

[1:01:22] group, contact bay area

[1:01:22] cancer

[1:01:24] connections and this is in

[1:01:24] san

[1:01:27] mateo county.

[1:01:29] >> thank you, mayor, that

[1:01:30] concludes anyone registered

[1:01:30] to

[1:01:31] speak.

[1:01:32] Do we have anyone else in the

[1:01:33] audience that did not

[1:01:34] register?

[1:01:37] Go ahead.

[1:01:39] F you don't mind coming up to

[1:01:40] the mic., please, thank you.

[1:01:41] Just so everyone at home can

[1:01:42] hear you.

[1:01:45] >> I was wondering, I heard

[1:01:48] archer aviation is going to

[1:01:49] be

[1:01:50] flying this year, is that

[1:01:50] true

[1:01:55] in south city?

[1:01:57] >> sorry, we can't respond to

[1:01:58] public comment.

[1:02:00] >> that's basically -- it was

[1:02:02] more of a question than a

[1:02:02] statement.

[1:02:03] That's it.

[1:02:05] That was basically it.

[1:02:06] >> MADAM City manager, if you

[1:02:07] could follow up with the

[1:02:08] individual.

[1:02:10] >> if I could get your name

[1:02:11] and contact number, aisle

[1:02:13] give

[1:02:14] -- I'll give you a call.

[1:02:16] >> thank you, mayor, that

[1:02:16] kondsbacker concludes our

[1:02:17] speakers and I wanted to note

[1:02:18] for the record, we received

[1:02:20] and you should all receive in

[1:02:23] your ipad an e-comment from

[1:02:23] chef ava.

[1:02:25] >> great, thank you, that has

[1:02:25] been received.

[1:02:28] >> thank you, moving on to

[1:02:29] consent calendar.

[1:02:30] Item 3 is a motion to approve

[1:02:32] the minutes of MARCH 12, 2025.

[1:02:35] Item 4 is a motion to accept

[1:02:38] measure w citizens' oversight

[1:02:39] committee report

[1:02:39] independently

[1:02:43] verifying fiscal year 2023-24

[1:02:45] measure w revenue and is

[1:02:46] expenditures.

[1:02:47] Item 5 is a motion to receive

[1:02:49] and file the city's housing

[1:02:50] successor agency annual

[1:02:50] report

[1:02:53] for fiscal year 2023-24.

[1:02:55] Item 6 is a report regarding

[1:02:55] a

[1:02:58] funding agreement with san

[1:03:00] mateo county transportation

[1:03:01] authority for the harbor

[1:03:02] master spit project.

[1:03:04] 6a is the resolution.

[1:03:06] Item 7 is a report regarding

[1:03:07] a

[1:03:11] resolution authorizing the

[1:03:13] creation of cdbg ramps and

[1:03:16] paths, approval of budget

[1:03:18] amendment number 25.046 and

[1:03:19] authorization o advertise the

[1:03:20] project for cnstruction.

[1:03:22] Item 7a is the resolution.

[1:03:24] Item 8 is a report regarding

[1:03:24] a

[1:03:25] second reading and adoption

[1:03:25] of

[1:03:27] an ordinance amending the

[1:03:29] south san francisco municipal

[1:03:32] code to add chapter 8.100

[1:03:33] local preference and is

[1:03:35] requirements to title 8 to

[1:03:36] define a preference policy

[1:03:38] requirement for housing units

[1:03:40] regulated by the city of

[1:03:40] south

[1:03:42] san francisco in order to

[1:03:43] prioritize housing applicants

[1:03:45] who live and/or work in the

[1:03:46] city.

[1:03:48] Item 8a is the ordinance.

[1:03:50] >> thank you, are there any

[1:03:52] members who wuld like to

[1:03:52] pull

[1:03:53] any agenda items?

[1:03:55] >> item 6 and 7.

[1:03:56] >> 6 and 7.

[1:03:57] Anyone else?

[1:03:59] Okay.

[1:04:01] I'm okay with doing those

[1:04:01] right now.

[1:04:04] So we'll start with item 6.

[1:04:09] >> let me promote our staff

[1:04:11] here.

[1:04:13] She's online, are you going

[1:04:14] to

[1:04:18] talk, I'm going promote her.

[1:04:22] >> who are we talking to?

[1:04:24] >> she's coming, adrianna.

[1:04:25] Here she is.

[1:04:28] >> is she here?

[1:04:28] Okay.

[1:04:32] So, this item has to do with

[1:04:35] roughly an one acre piece of

[1:04:35] property that's out a the

[1:04:36] marina with wr

[1:04:36] the harbor

[1:04:38] master is and it's habitually

[1:04:41] under water when we have king

[1:04:43] tides to an amazing degree.

[1:04:44] We've identified some money

[1:04:48] but I just need to understand

[1:04:49] we were aarded a grant and

[1:04:50] we

[1:04:51] have to match the grant with

[1:04:51] a

[1:04:53] like amount of dollars but

[1:04:55] that grant has expired, so

[1:04:56] can

[1:04:57] you explain to me the

[1:04:59] mechanism that is going to

[1:05:03] ensure that we have

[1:05:03] participation.

[1:05:04] >> yes, of course.

[1:05:07] So, we've had this fnding

[1:05:08] agreement ongoing.

[1:05:11] It's kind of a logistical

[1:05:13] funding agreement adjustment.

[1:05:16] We applied for an extension

[1:05:18] and the ta denied that and

[1:05:22] said they wanted to create a

[1:05:23] new funding agreement.

[1:05:25] All of our invoices will

[1:05:25] still

[1:05:27] be paid between the gap of

[1:05:27] the

[1:05:29] old funding agreement and the

[1:05:31] new one.

[1:05:32] Yeah, did that answer your

[1:05:33] question, councilmember?

[1:05:35] >> so, the invoices that

[1:05:36] we've

[1:05:37] incurred to date are going to

[1:05:39] be covered by the ta grant?

[1:05:40] >> correct.

[1:05:41] >> and then moving ahead once

[1:05:44] we have the design for how

[1:05:47] we're going to improve that

[1:05:52] air -- area so it's not

[1:05:53] overtaught with water, the

[1:05:55] water would eventually

[1:05:57] penetrate the landfill and be

[1:05:58] an environmental disaster, so

[1:06:00] where do we expect to find

[1:06:02] funds potentially for the

[1:06:04] actual construction?

[1:06:06] >> excellent question.

[1:06:07] Currently we have a

[1:06:08] consultant

[1:06:10] looking into feasible gants

[1:06:12] to cover this construction.

[1:06:14] We are at the beginning

[1:06:15] phases

[1:06:17] of grant research and I can

[1:06:19] certainly update you as we

[1:06:20] look into our options.

[1:06:22] >> okay.

[1:06:23] Thank you, that's all I have.

[1:06:26] >> thank you.

[1:06:30] Item number 7?

[1:06:31] >> who's going to help me

[1:06:33] with

[1:06:35] that?

[1:06:37] So, MR. Wilson.

[1:06:41] So, is tere a list of

[1:06:42] projects that we've already

[1:06:44] determined are going to be

[1:06:47] part of this ramp and path

[1:06:50] million dollar project?

[1:06:51] >> good evening, honorable

[1:06:53] members tof council, johnny

[1:06:55] wilson, your associate

[1:07:01] engineer with the engineering

[1:07:01] department.

[1:07:03] So, your question is with

[1:07:05] regard to the scope of the

[1:07:07] project, yeah.

[1:07:12] Approximately 80 curb ramps

[1:07:13] distributed roughly equally

[1:07:15] among the five districts.

[1:07:16] >> that was the next

[1:07:17] question,

[1:07:17] that's great, so that list

[1:07:18] can

[1:07:18] be shared?

[1:07:20] >> yeah.

[1:07:21] Just putting together a

[1:07:23] website for it, I've got a

[1:07:23] map

[1:07:24] that's ready.

[1:07:28] As soon as this project is

[1:07:29] created, I'll create that

[1:07:30] website and share that map,

[1:07:33] it's teed up and ready to go

[1:07:36] and we're also constructing

[1:07:36] an

[1:07:38] accessible path to cypress

[1:07:38] and

[1:07:39] pine park, that's the other

[1:07:40] component.

[1:07:42] >> for downtown?

[1:07:43] That's great, I just needed

[1:07:44] to

[1:07:45] know there was something we

[1:07:46] could see where the money

[1:07:49] might be allocated, so thank

[1:07:49] you.

[1:07:52] >> aisle be happy to share

[1:07:55] with you, tomorrow I'll be

[1:07:56] working on the website.

[1:07:58] >> thank you, having no other

[1:07:59] items being pulled, could I

[1:08:01] have a a motion to approve

[1:08:01] the

[1:08:02] consent agenda?

[1:08:02] >> so moved.

[1:08:03] >> I'll scond.

[1:08:04] >> first and second, can can

[1:08:04] I

[1:08:07] have a roll call, please.

[1:08:08] >> councilmember coleman?

[1:08:08] -

[1:08:09] >> yes.

[1:08:10] >> vice mayor addiego?

[1:08:12] >> yes.

[1:08:12] >> coupes member nicolas?

[1:08:17] >> aye.

[1:08:18] >> cuncilmember nagales?

[1:08:18] >> yes.

[1:08:19] >> and mayor flores?

[1:08:19] >> yes, motion passes.

[1:08:20] >> moving on to

[1:08:20] administrative

[1:08:22] business, item 9 is a report

[1:08:23] regarding the 2024 general

[1:08:25] plan and housing element

[1:08:40] annual progress reports.

[1:08:42] >> good evening,

[1:08:42] councilmembers, billy gross

[1:08:47] with the planning division.

[1:08:49] Myself and stephanie will be

[1:08:51] here for our yearly annual

[1:08:52] progress reports on the

[1:08:55] general plan and housing

[1:08:56] element.

[1:08:58] So I'll go through just a few

[1:08:59] slides that talk about

[1:08:59] actions

[1:09:01] that happened in 2024 for the

[1:09:03] general plan and then

[1:09:04] stephanie will go through the

[1:09:08] housing element for the 2024

[1:09:09] progress.

[1:09:10] As you'll recall, the current

[1:09:13] general pan was adopted in

[1:09:14] 2022 and continues to be

[1:09:16] consistent with all state

[1:09:17] requirements.

[1:09:18] There were no amendment ts

[1:09:20] the general plan has were

[1:09:23] adopted in 2024.

[1:09:24] This chart shows when each of

[1:09:26] the required elements was

[1:09:26] last

[1:09:27] updated, all of these

[1:09:31] occurring in e ver 2022 or

[1:09:33] 2023 when we adopted the

[1:09:38] lindenville specific plan.

[1:09:40] Attachments 1 and 2 to your

[1:09:41] staff report are the detailed

[1:09:44] general plan implementation

[1:09:44] tables showing the current

[1:09:48] status of each of the 764

[1:09:49] policy ins actions within the

[1:09:50] general plan.

[1:09:52] Items that you see that are

[1:09:54] highlighted in yellow

[1:09:54] indicate

[1:09:56] an updated entry from last

[1:09:57] year.

[1:09:58] The majority of the these are

[1:10:00] descriptions of progress in

[1:10:02] 2024 in the notes column but

[1:10:03] there are others that MAY

[1:10:06] indicate a change in status

[1:10:09] or

[1:10:10] timeframe.

[1:10:11] This chart which is also

[1:10:14] included in the staff report

[1:10:15] indicates implementation

[1:10:17] status by element.

[1:10:18] Overall, items cnsidered

[1:10:21] either complete or ongoing

[1:10:24] have increased from 51 to 55

[1:10:24] percent.

[1:10:26] Items considered under way

[1:10:28] have increased from 16 to 19

[1:10:31] percent and items with no

[1:10:33] action have decreased from

[1:10:33] 33%

[1:10:34] to 26 percent s we are

[1:10:36] continuing to make progress

[1:10:37] in

[1:10:41] all of these actions and

[1:10:41] policies.

[1:10:43] And for the general plan

[1:10:44] progress report, the last

[1:10:45] thing I wanted to highlight

[1:10:47] was the data dashboard.

[1:10:48] This is intended to assist in

[1:10:49] trag tr

[1:10:50] tracking

[1:10:51] implementation progress on

[1:10:52] performance measure that is

[1:10:54] were identified in the

[1:10:54] general

[1:10:55] plan.

[1:10:55] The dashboard has been

[1:10:56] updated

[1:10:58] with the most recent data

[1:10:58] that

[1:11:00] is currently accessible if

[1:11:01] available.

[1:11:03] We have also worked with our

[1:11:05] website consultant team to

[1:11:06] provide documentation on how

[1:11:07] the data for each performance

[1:11:09] measure is obtained and that

[1:11:10] documentation is now

[1:11:11] available

[1:11:13] on the dashboard which can be

[1:11:16] found on the general plan

[1:11:20] website shape ssf.Net under

[1:11:21] measuring progress, with that

[1:11:23] I'm going the hand it over to

[1:11:24] stephanie to talk to you

[1:11:24] about

[1:11:25] the housing elements progress

[1:11:33] and I'm happy to answer any

[1:11:34] questions you haver after

[1:11:34] that.

[1:11:35] >> thank you, billy.

[1:11:37] >> good evening, thank you,

[1:11:38] billy.

[1:11:40] Stephanie skangos with the

[1:11:43] planning division.

[1:11:44] As billy mentioned, I will be

[1:11:46] going over the housing

[1:11:47] element

[1:11:48] annual progress report.

[1:11:50] Just to offer a quick little

[1:11:52] recap, what is the husing

[1:11:53] element?

[1:11:54] The housing element is one of

[1:11:55] the 7 state mandated elements

[1:11:58] of the general plan.

[1:11:59] Although unlike the other

[1:12:01] elements of a general plan,

[1:12:04] the housing element must be

[1:12:04] updated by deadlines set by

[1:12:06] the state.

[1:12:09] The t city adopted a new

[1:12:12] housing element in JANUARY of

[1:12:12] 2023 and the department of

[1:12:13] housing and community

[1:12:15] development or hcd certified

[1:12:16] our housing element in

[1:12:18] NOVEMBER 2023.

[1:12:20] And this new housing element

[1:12:21] covers a planning cycle

[1:12:26] running from JANUARY 31, 2023

[1:12:28] through JANUARY 31, 2031, so

[1:12:30] an 8 year period.

[1:12:32] And again the housing element

[1:12:34] is essentially the blueprint

[1:12:35] for future housing

[1:12:36] development

[1:12:38] within the city ad it

[1:12:39] includes goals, policies and

[1:12:41] programs that will direct

[1:12:45] residential decision-making.

[1:12:48] The housing element -- sorry.

[1:12:49] The housing element process

[1:12:52] begins with the state setting

[1:12:53] a regions regional housing

[1:12:55] needs allocation or rhna

[1:12:56] which

[1:12:57] is the estimated number of

[1:12:59] housing units that will be

[1:13:01] needed over the 8 year

[1:13:04] planning cycle to assist with

[1:13:05] regional growth and trends.

[1:13:10] The 8 year cycle for rhna

[1:13:10] does

[1:13:13] differ slightly by about 6

[1:13:15] months t rhna cycle run from

[1:13:18] JUNE 30, 2022 through

[1:13:18] DECEMBER

[1:13:19] 15, 2030.

[1:13:21] It's important to note with

[1:13:22] rhna that these units don't

[1:13:25] need to be constructed during

[1:13:27] the time period, but the city

[1:13:29] is required to ensure that it

[1:13:31] is possible to build these

[1:13:33] units trough appropriate

[1:13:34] zoning.

[1:13:35] New units are counted towards

[1:13:38] rhna at the time of building

[1:13:39] permit issuance and this

[1:13:42] applies for all new

[1:13:44] residential unit tpes,

[1:13:44] single

[1:13:47] family dwellings, accessory

[1:13:48] dwelling units, duplexes,

[1:13:52] duplexes and our larger

[1:13:54] multifamily buildings.

[1:13:58] The current rhna cycle sixth,

[1:14:01] we were -- sorry, we were

[1:14:04] tasked with our

[1:14:05] responsibility

[1:14:10] of 3956 units over the 8 year

[1:14:12] period.

[1:14:14] The rhna allocation is

[1:14:15] further

[1:14:18] divided into income levels.

[1:14:20] There are four category, very

[1:14:22] low, low, mod wrath rat and

[1:14:23] above moderate.

[1:14:24] These income categories are

[1:14:27] based on the area median

[1:14:29] income that is set by hcd for

[1:14:33] each county.

[1:14:36] The 2024ami for san mateo

[1:14:39] county is 186 thousand 600

[1:14:40] dollars.

[1:14:44] Very low category is

[1:14:48] 30-50%ami, low is between

[1:14:52] 50-80%ami, moderate falls

[1:14:54] between 80-120%ami and above

[1:14:56] moderate is more tan 100%

[1:14:59] ami, so you can see the

[1:15:02] allotment for the total rhna

[1:15:04] numbers of 3956, the majority

[1:15:07] of which are uder the above

[1:15:14] moderate category.

[1:15:15] For 2024, the city is

[1:15:16] reporting building permit

[1:15:20] issuance for a total of 62

[1:15:20] new

[1:15:21] residential units.

[1:15:24] This includes 6 sing m family

[1:15:26] homes, 6 small multifamily

[1:15:29] units which are units located

[1:15:32] within 2-4 unit structures,

[1:15:33] and 50adu's.

[1:15:36] Again, new units that receive

[1:15:37] building permit issuance

[1:15:40] during the reported year are

[1:15:42] what is counted towards the

[1:15:44] current rhna allocation.

[1:15:47] In addition to the new units

[1:15:50] issued, a tet of 255 new

[1:15:51] residential units were

[1:15:52] finagled or received a

[1:15:55] certificate of occupancy in

[1:15:59] the 2024 reporting year.

[1:16:01] The city also approved

[1:16:02] planning entitlements for

[1:16:02] five

[1:16:03] new residential units during

[1:16:04] the reporting year.

[1:16:08] And the detailers for the

[1:16:11] building permit issuance and

[1:16:12] entitlements approved and

[1:16:15] certificate of compliance

[1:16:16] completion are found in

[1:16:18] attachment 3 and 4 of the

[1:16:25] staff report under table a-2.

[1:16:26] So, this is the second year

[1:16:27] of

[1:16:32] the rhna cycle 6 eighty year

[1:16:33] reporting cycle,

[1:16:33] cumulatively,

[1:16:34] the city is dewed building

[1:16:37] perms for a total of 4.5% of

[1:16:38] the expected housing units so

[1:16:41] that's a total of 177 units

[1:16:46] out of the 3956 units that

[1:16:50] were allocated through rhna.

[1:16:53] This is broken down into the

[1:16:55] four income categories.

[1:16:57] The city for above moderate

[1:16:59] housing category, the city

[1:17:01] issued building permits for

[1:17:01] 36

[1:17:04] units or 1.9% of the rhna

[1:17:05] allocation.

[1:17:06] Moderate housing category,

[1:17:06] the

[1:17:08] city's issued building

[1:17:08] permits

[1:17:11] for 46 units or 6.4% of the

[1:17:12] allocation.

[1:17:13] For the low housing category,

[1:17:15] the city has issued a

[1:17:16] building

[1:17:20] permit for 68 units or 13.5%

[1:17:22] of the rhna allocation, the

[1:17:24] very low housing category t

[1:17:25] city has issued a building

[1:17:28] permit for 27 units or 3.1%

[1:17:28] of

[1:17:33] the rhna allocation.

[1:17:35] Thsz for the 2023 reporting

[1:17:38] year ad then the 2024

[1:17:42] reporting year, cumulatively.

[1:17:43] In addition to reporting

[1:17:45] housing production to date

[1:17:49] during the reporting year, we

[1:17:51] also provide information on

[1:17:53] our program implementation

[1:17:54] status, as mentioned, a large

[1:17:56] component of the city's

[1:17:59] housing element are goals,

[1:18:01] policies and products that

[1:18:01] direct decision making, most

[1:18:03] of these programs are

[1:18:05] implemented and monitored on

[1:18:06] an ongoing basis, however

[1:18:07] some

[1:18:08] programs have deliverable

[1:18:09] dates throughout the housing

[1:18:14] element cycle.

[1:18:16] For the 2024 reporting year,

[1:18:18] 7

[1:18:20] programs were completed.

[1:18:20] These were all completed

[1:18:22] through the adoption of a

[1:18:24] zoning text amendment that

[1:18:24] the

[1:18:26] council approved and adopted

[1:18:28] last JUNE.

[1:18:30] The zoning text amendment

[1:18:31] included amended definitions

[1:18:34] of certain uses such as

[1:18:35] emergency shelter, addition

[1:18:36] of

[1:18:38] some new use classifications

[1:18:39] including low barrier

[1:18:41] navigation center and

[1:18:42] permanent supportive housing

[1:18:46] as well as updates to the

[1:18:47] development uses allowed

[1:18:48] within different zoning

[1:18:53] districts per state mandate.

[1:18:55] And that concludes staff's

[1:18:56] presentation.

[1:18:57] Both myself and billy are

[1:18:58] available for any questions.

[1:18:59] >> thank you, stephanie,

[1:19:00] thank

[1:19:01] you, billy.

[1:19:03] I'll take questions from my

[1:19:04] colleagues.

[1:19:06] I have

[1:19:08] >> I have a lot of questions

[1:19:09] so I should probably go first

[1:19:11] which is not a surprise to my

[1:19:12] colleagues.

[1:19:16] I'm going the help set up the

[1:19:19] questions, so I think we have

[1:19:21] to kind of paint the picture

[1:19:23] here in terms of help

[1:19:25] explaining the rhna process.

[1:19:27] So, if we do a good faith

[1:19:29] effort in trying to reach our

[1:19:32] rhna goals and we don't hit

[1:19:35] those numbers, what are the

[1:19:37] ramifications of us not doing

[1:19:38] that?

[1:19:40] >> great question.

[1:19:43] So, technically there is no

[1:19:45] penalty for not meeting the

[1:19:48] rhna numbers but there are

[1:19:51] certain provisions sb35 that

[1:19:52] MAY take effect.

[1:19:54] If a certain percentage of

[1:19:54] our

[1:19:58] rhna allocation is not met,

[1:20:00] midway through the reporting

[1:20:02] or the rhna cycle.

[1:20:04] And those would include --

[1:20:04] and

[1:20:07] I MAY call up tony rozzi for

[1:20:07] help here.

[1:20:11] But I believe they include

[1:20:15] changing the process of

[1:20:17] residential development

[1:20:17] review

[1:20:19] from discretionary to

[1:20:21] ministerial if a certain

[1:20:23] amount of affordable units

[1:20:23] are

[1:20:25] included in the overall

[1:20:26] proposed residential

[1:20:27] development.

[1:20:28] >> so, in other words, if we

[1:20:30] don't hit our numbers, a

[1:20:32] developer can come in and

[1:20:34] pretty much submit a project

[1:20:37] and we would have to approve

[1:20:38] it administrative, tony, do

[1:20:40] you want to -- I really want

[1:20:43] to be able to -- we

[1:20:43] understand

[1:20:44] these terms but I want to

[1:20:45] make

[1:20:47] sure the audience understands

[1:20:48] this.

[1:20:50] >> yeah.

[1:20:52] Tony rozzi, deputy director

[1:20:52] in

[1:20:53] ecd.

[1:20:55] I'm going to pull up this

[1:20:56] slide because ithink it's

[1:20:57] probably the best way to talk

[1:20:59] through this.

[1:21:02] And sb35 is not new, it

[1:21:03] applied to us in the last

[1:21:04] cycle.

[1:21:06] At the end of year four,

[1:21:07] midway through the rhna

[1:21:08] cycle,

[1:21:10] that 8 year period, they want

[1:21:13] to know that you're on track

[1:21:13] --

[1:21:14] >> hang on, she can't hear

[1:21:17] you.

[1:21:25] >> sb35 applies and really

[1:21:26] holds cities accountable for

[1:21:29] how they're doing as far as

[1:21:31] progress on their rhna cycle.

[1:21:34] After year 4, w report back,

[1:21:37] you know, have you met 50% of

[1:21:39] your expected above moderate

[1:21:39] units.

[1:21:41] So, in this case, we have a

[1:21:44] lot of above moderate units

[1:21:46] assigned, almost over 1800,

[1:21:47] so

[1:21:51] we would want to see at least

[1:21:54] 900 units permitted by the

[1:21:56] fifth year in our rhna cycle.

[1:21:57] Separately, they want to know

[1:21:58] how are you doing with your

[1:22:00] low and very low units, so

[1:22:02] that will be our very low and

[1:22:04] our low, that's almost 1400

[1:22:07] units so half of that would

[1:22:08] be

[1:22:09] 700 units half way through

[1:22:09] the

[1:22:11] rhna cycle.

[1:22:13] If you are on track and

[1:22:13] you've

[1:22:16] met both of those numbers,

[1:22:19] sb35 doesn't apply.

[1:22:21] It is not out of the question

[1:22:23] that we might have a stronger

[1:22:25] next cuple of years but it

[1:22:28] really depends on the market,

[1:22:30] tariffs, interest rates, all

[1:22:32] of those things affect

[1:22:32] whether

[1:22:33] a developer pulls a permit or

[1:22:35] not but that culd be a

[1:22:37] trigger for sb35, like

[1:22:38] stephanie said, allows a

[1:22:42] project to be proposed that

[1:22:44] has no discretionary review,

[1:22:46] no ceqa, they do have to use

[1:22:47] prevailing wage and they do

[1:22:49] have to provide affordable

[1:22:54] units, so it's not a free --

[1:22:56] freebie for a developer but

[1:22:57] it

[1:22:58] limits a developer's

[1:22:59] discretionary review.

[1:23:00] Does that make sense?

[1:23:02] >> yeah, that makes sense to

[1:23:03] me.

[1:23:05] So, let me dig a little

[1:23:05] deeper

[1:23:06] here.

[1:23:15] So, when you say city report

[1:23:16] building permits, you say

[1:23:17] city

[1:23:17] reported building permit and

[1:23:21] is then you say planning

[1:23:23] entitlements and I don't

[1:23:24] think

[1:23:28] the audience understands that

[1:23:28] here.

[1:23:30] For 62 residential units,

[1:23:31] those are the numbers that

[1:23:31] are

[1:23:33] counted towards our rhna

[1:23:33] numbers.

[1:23:35] But when you say planning

[1:23:37] entitlements, those numbers

[1:23:39] are different.

[1:23:41] Can yu briefly explain the

[1:23:42] difference between those two.

[1:23:46] >> yeah, I can and they can

[1:23:46] --

[1:23:49] in the life cycle o a

[1:23:50] project, entitlements are

[1:23:51] your

[1:23:52] first stage, you go through

[1:23:53] the planning commission,

[1:23:55] perhaps city council and you

[1:23:56] get entitled for the ability

[1:23:59] to now build those units and

[1:24:01] you've met your ceqa

[1:24:02] obligations, you've met our

[1:24:04] design standards and we have

[1:24:05] a

[1:24:06] very streamlined process for

[1:24:10] these projects.

[1:24:11] That's entitlement, now you

[1:24:13] take those pretty

[1:24:13] architectural drawings and

[1:24:14] you

[1:24:15] turn them into construction

[1:24:17] drawings and that could take

[1:24:21] as quick as 3-6 months, 18

[1:24:22] months, you have up to three

[1:24:24] years from your entitlement

[1:24:24] to

[1:24:26] get submitted for a building

[1:24:26] permit.

[1:24:28] Then you submit for a

[1:24:28] building

[1:24:29] permit, you go back and forth

[1:24:31] with our plan check review,

[1:24:32] with fire review, with

[1:24:34] planning review.

[1:24:37] When we issue that building

[1:24:39] permit n that whatever year

[1:24:42] that is which might be three

[1:24:44] years after they're entitled,

[1:24:46] we finally get credit in rhna.

[1:24:47] Now the state wants us to

[1:24:49] report, how did you do on

[1:24:51] entitlements, do we we no if

[1:24:53] you have stuff on the

[1:24:55] pipeline, how are you doing

[1:24:56] with issuing permits and now

[1:24:58] can you tell us if you have

[1:25:00] finagled those projects, are

[1:25:01] they now down and people

[1:25:04] living in them so that's the

[1:25:04] reporting.

[1:25:06] >> thank you for that

[1:25:06] overview.

[1:25:08] Here's what I'm looking at

[1:25:10] these numbers, and tony, I

[1:25:12] appreciate like the midway

[1:25:13] report.

[1:25:13] I don't know if yes

[1:25:14] f wez

[1:25:14] ear

[1:25:16] going the hit that based on

[1:25:17] what you're seeing right now.

[1:25:19] That is the concern I'm

[1:25:19] having.

[1:25:21] And so did you want to jump

[1:25:22] in?

[1:25:25] >> I share your concern.

[1:25:26] I will say tere are some

[1:25:28] project that is are in

[1:25:29] building permit review ready

[1:25:32] to be issued that would tick

[1:25:35] off our low and very low

[1:25:37] inclusionary and very many

[1:25:39] above moderate but it doesn't

[1:25:40] feel super promising.

[1:25:44] >> I'm looking behind me as

[1:25:45] the puc projects that would

[1:25:47] ramp up our numbers, right.

[1:25:47] >> right.

[1:25:48] Er

[1:25:51] >> so, let me dig deeper,

[1:25:51] when

[1:25:53] I was looking at the

[1:25:54] spreadsheet here, there were

[1:25:56] some akronbacker ron anymore

[1:25:58] which is lu, which means land

[1:26:02] use, and it says 3.9 in terms

[1:26:05] of the spreadsheet, that felt

[1:26:06] with crating affordable and

[1:26:07] workforce housing, I went

[1:26:09] through all the data points

[1:26:10] here.

[1:26:12] They were talking about

[1:26:14] working with the --

[1:26:15] potentially working with the

[1:26:17] school district about

[1:26:18] building

[1:26:19] affordable housing sites and

[1:26:19] I

[1:26:20] know the school district's

[1:26:21] been looking at this and I

[1:26:25] know we do have the city

[1:26:26] council's sdaol district

[1:26:28] liaison committee and I know

[1:26:30] it's o one of the priorities

[1:26:31] in turnover the school

[1:26:33] district but they do have

[1:26:36] sites in terms of fox ridge

[1:26:37] and sarah vista that

[1:26:39] potentially could be housing

[1:26:41] sites, so I'm looking at my

[1:26:43] colleagues who serve on tat

[1:26:44] subcommittee to really see

[1:26:46] what the school district's

[1:26:47] plan on that is and I know

[1:26:49] again one of the things they

[1:26:51] mentioned and they have to

[1:26:52] look at it but honestly

[1:26:53] they've been saying they

[1:26:54] support some sort of

[1:26:56] development there but they're

[1:26:58] dragging their feet.

[1:27:00] And if we're going to build

[1:27:01] affordable housing and

[1:27:02] workforce housing, I want to

[1:27:03] see a partnership with the

[1:27:04] school district so I'm

[1:27:05] looking

[1:27:06] at my colleagues over there

[1:27:06] in

[1:27:07] termser of moving that

[1:27:08] forward

[1:27:10] and I think jefferson high

[1:27:11] school district is a perfect

[1:27:13] example of how you build

[1:27:13] those

[1:27:16] unit, it's such a successful

[1:27:17] model that other school

[1:27:18] districts ares following that

[1:27:20] model, it's a nationally

[1:27:21] recognized program in terms

[1:27:22] of

[1:27:23] what they're doing so I want

[1:27:24] to lesh from them in terms of

[1:27:26] what we can do forward.

[1:27:27] Okay.

[1:27:29] There was another one here,

[1:27:30] it

[1:27:33] says land use 2.1 which is

[1:27:35] prioritized development near

[1:27:35] transit.

[1:27:37] And we during our housing

[1:27:39] element cnversation, we did

[1:27:40] talk about development aong

[1:27:42] the el camino corridor

[1:27:42] because

[1:27:44] we have seen the development

[1:27:46] on the caltrain corridor, but

[1:27:48] this is kind of the next kind

[1:27:49] of section where we have to

[1:27:50] look at in terms of

[1:27:52] development because when you

[1:27:54] build along transit, you get

[1:27:56] people who start using

[1:27:56] transit

[1:27:58] and I know other cities are

[1:28:00] looking along the el camino

[1:28:02] corridor in termer of

[1:28:03] development so as we mover

[1:28:05] forward in terms of

[1:28:06] development, these are going

[1:28:07] to be the sections we're

[1:28:07] going

[1:28:09] to be seeing and you can see

[1:28:11] it now in terms of where

[1:28:15] across from the san bruno

[1:28:15] bart

[1:28:16] station, tere's already

[1:28:19] development and the century

[1:28:21] plaza, that's going to be

[1:28:23] housing, that's along the

[1:28:23] bart

[1:28:25] corridor along the samtrans

[1:28:26] core dhao,'s something we're

[1:28:27] going to be looking at in

[1:28:28] terms of development.

[1:28:31] And there was another thing

[1:28:33] that says crt which I don't

[1:28:36] know what crt stood fr.

[1:28:38] >> creation.

[1:28:41] >> okay, it said 3.1, review

[1:28:42] of cmmercial and housing

[1:28:44] linkage fees.

[1:28:46] So, that was supposed to be

[1:28:47] helping us in terms of

[1:28:49] building development but for

[1:28:50] me, the pipeline is starting

[1:28:52] to slow down and there was a

[1:28:53] initial conversation at or

[1:28:54] housing subcommittee the see

[1:28:55] what with

[1:28:56] f we can do in

[1:28:57] terms of speeding up the

[1:28:59] process and I know waun one

[1:28:59] of

[1:29:02] the things, we did hire a

[1:29:03] strategic economic consultant

[1:29:06] to look at that in terms of

[1:29:06] housing and commercial

[1:29:07] linkage

[1:29:07] fees.

[1:29:10] I look forward to have that

[1:29:11] conversation in terms of what

[1:29:14] we want to d with that

[1:29:15] particular fee.

[1:29:19] So, with that, aisle leave

[1:29:20] that in terms of the

[1:29:20] questions.

[1:29:22] >> thank you, councilmember,

[1:29:22] any other questions?

[1:29:24] >> I do have a question.

[1:29:25] >> go ahead.

[1:29:25] Er

[1:29:26] >> so, how many housing

[1:29:26] units

[1:29:28] are in the pipeline and by

[1:29:31] that, I mean entitled but not

[1:29:32] yet permitted do, we have a

[1:29:37] number that's the total?

[1:29:43] >> so, for the 2024 reporting

[1:29:45] year, five units were

[1:29:45] approved

[1:29:48] in the planning process have

[1:29:49] received approved

[1:29:49] entitlements.

[1:29:51] We do have approved projects

[1:29:54] from the previous years

[1:29:59] including 7 south linden, 410

[1:30:01] noor, 1477 huntington, all of

[1:30:07] those have not pulled a

[1:30:08] building permit yet, a couple

[1:30:10] of them are on track to

[1:30:12] possibly get their building

[1:30:13] permits issued this next year

[1:30:15] or during this year so we

[1:30:17] would include them in the

[1:30:17] 2025

[1:30:18] reporting and that's when we

[1:30:20] would get the credit towards

[1:30:21] rhna.

[1:30:24] >> what's the number of those

[1:30:27] units?

[1:30:28] >> roughly 1500 units.

[1:30:30] >> thank you.

[1:30:33] And then I know the rate

[1:30:35] limiting factor is mostly the

[1:30:36] financing markets, so to the

[1:30:38] best of your ability, if you

[1:30:39] can characterize where we are

[1:30:41] many the market right now, do

[1:30:44] you see it improving, not

[1:30:47] improving?

[1:30:49] >> nell selander, economic

[1:30:50] and

[1:30:50] community development

[1:30:52] director, what we're hearing

[1:30:56] right now from some of the

[1:30:57] larger developmental

[1:30:58] directors

[1:30:59] who are pulling their

[1:31:00] building

[1:31:02] permit and is sites now but

[1:31:04] not yet pulled a building

[1:31:05] permit for vertical

[1:31:07] construction, it's not

[1:31:10] interest rates, it's the

[1:31:14] expected tariff wars and in

[1:31:16] particular wood from canada,

[1:31:18] so we even hve a project

[1:31:19] that's not about to pull a

[1:31:21] building permit but is doipg

[1:31:21] a

[1:31:23] lot of cost estimating and

[1:31:26] that was contemplated as two

[1:31:28] floors of concrete, so two

[1:31:30] podium floors with four to

[1:31:31] five stories of wood frame

[1:31:33] construction above it and

[1:31:33] they're now considering

[1:31:37] pricing the whole building in

[1:31:38] concrete because -- which

[1:31:41] would be unheard of, three or

[1:31:42] four or five years ago,

[1:31:46] because of the volatility in

[1:31:48] the timber markets because so

[1:31:50] much of it comes from canada

[1:31:52] and also because of fire

[1:31:54] insurance and fire risk,

[1:31:56] concrete buildings are less

[1:31:57] risky in a a fire.

[1:32:00] So, we MAY end up with

[1:32:00] totally

[1:32:01] different types of buildings

[1:32:04] getting built in this sort of

[1:32:06] economic cycle with the way

[1:32:08] tariffs are and fire risk.

[1:32:10] >> thank you, that's vry

[1:32:12] interesting information.

[1:32:13] >> thank you.

[1:32:15] Any other questions?

[1:32:18] >> there's one bright spot in

[1:32:20] this, this table a, the

[1:32:22] housing development

[1:32:23] application submitted,

[1:32:23] there's

[1:32:24] four different projects and

[1:32:26] what I noticed was that in a

[1:32:30] couple of them are mid size,

[1:32:33] one is 64 units, one is 70,

[1:32:36] and those are all to be owner

[1:32:38] occupied, is that correct?

[1:32:40] So that would be 500

[1:32:40] railroad,

[1:32:41] the gateway project?

[1:32:44] >> yes, the railroad

[1:32:46] townhomes, and there's

[1:32:47] another

[1:32:50] project, 170, 180 south

[1:32:54] spruce, approximately 64, 65

[1:32:54] row houses.

[1:32:55] >> I understand that's

[1:32:57] happening in the south bay

[1:32:59] where some developers are

[1:33:00] looking at previously

[1:33:02] approved

[1:33:03] entitlements for multifamily

[1:33:04] with greater height but it

[1:33:08] looks like there might be

[1:33:08] some

[1:33:10] financial advantages maybe to

[1:33:11] townhouses and it would be

[1:33:13] wonderful if we had something

[1:33:14] available for sale where

[1:33:17] people could come into south

[1:33:17] san francisco, iv

[1:33:20] ets, --

[1:33:21] invest, have a stake in the

[1:33:22] action and stay here for a a

[1:33:23] period of time.

[1:33:25] One of the great

[1:33:26] disappointments I had with

[1:33:27] the

[1:33:28] housing rental market, when I

[1:33:29] hear the turn over rate can

[1:33:30] be

[1:33:32] as high as 30% annually, so

[1:33:33] you have people that come and

[1:33:34] visit us for a couple of

[1:33:35] years

[1:33:36] and then they go some place

[1:33:37] else.

[1:33:38] That's not a healthy

[1:33:38] situation

[1:33:40] for a community, so if this

[1:33:41] becomes a trend, I think

[1:33:43] there's some potential really

[1:33:45] great news here where we have

[1:33:48] properties for sale.

[1:33:49] >> great.

[1:33:52] So, this is why rhna's

[1:33:53] important, so every city has

[1:33:56] to do rhna, is that right?

[1:33:57] Someone?

[1:33:59] >> yeah, every jurisdiction

[1:33:59] in

[1:34:02] the state of california is

[1:34:03] allotted a reap na

[1:34:03] number.

[1:34:05] >> and then what happens if

[1:34:05] we

[1:34:10] don't abide by the 3956 units?

[1:34:14] >> again, as tony mentioned,

[1:34:17] there is no penalty per se,

[1:34:19] part of the rhna process is

[1:34:22] making sure that a

[1:34:24] jurisdiction's zoning ad

[1:34:25] development standards can

[1:34:27] allow for the construction of

[1:34:28] that number.

[1:34:30] >> let rerephrase that,

[1:34:31] legally, what happens when

[1:34:35] we're not there, what is our

[1:34:37] state attorney general --

[1:34:38] what

[1:34:39] has he traditional has been

[1:34:42] known to have done to some

[1:34:42] cities?

[1:34:46] >> I'll defer to tony on that.

[1:34:49] >> I will say that in cases

[1:34:50] of

[1:34:51] jurisdictions that are sort

[1:34:52] of

[1:34:53] blatantly bad actor, they

[1:34:53] have

[1:34:55] gotten letters from the state

[1:34:56] attorney letting them know

[1:34:59] that they are at risk of

[1:35:01] losing funding for roads,

[1:35:02] funding for things that are

[1:35:04] not housing related that a

[1:35:04] lot

[1:35:08] of cities rely on.

[1:35:10] We have not always met our

[1:35:12] income levels in rhna but we

[1:35:14] have often met the lump

[1:35:15] number

[1:35:16] and we did in the last cycle.

[1:35:20] It's just very, very hard to

[1:35:23] get and fund the level of

[1:35:24] affordable, very low and low

[1:35:26] income unit that is are

[1:35:28] projected on most cities and

[1:35:30] that's where sb35 sort of

[1:35:31] creates a carrot for

[1:35:33] developers and frankly a

[1:35:35] carrot for cities to be a

[1:35:36] good

[1:35:37] actor and streamline.

[1:35:38] >> great.

[1:35:39] And as mayor and I know that

[1:35:42] my colleagues share this as

[1:35:44] well, this is important.

[1:35:46] This iss what we get elected

[1:35:46] o

[1:35:46] do.

[1:35:47] When I hear individuals say

[1:35:49] you all are hiding behind

[1:35:50] your

[1:35:53] rhna numbers or using that as

[1:35:54] a justification to build,

[1:35:54] this

[1:35:57] is happening all across

[1:35:58] california and in cities that

[1:36:00] perhaps don't even have space

[1:36:01] to build, right.

[1:36:02] They still have a a rhna

[1:36:04] number to meet and areap na

[1:36:05] allocation.

[1:36:09] Tony, can you describe what

[1:36:11] the builders' remedy is?

[1:36:15] >> the builders' remedy is a

[1:36:16] trigger lw that goes into

[1:36:21] effect if you do not have a

[1:36:23] compliant and certified

[1:36:24] housing element, so, you can

[1:36:25] adopt a housing element but

[1:36:26] it

[1:36:30] can be grossly failed to meet

[1:36:32] the standards that hcd is

[1:36:33] looking at.

[1:36:35] Hcd has to certify your

[1:36:36] housing element, until they

[1:36:36] do

[1:36:38] and once the housing element

[1:36:40] cycle has started and this is

[1:36:42] affected a lot of

[1:36:43] jurisdictions including us,

[1:36:44] there's a window where

[1:36:45] someone

[1:36:48] can come in on essentially

[1:36:49] any

[1:36:49] parcel anywhere.

[1:36:50] Er

[1:36:51] >> any neighborhood.

[1:36:53] >> and propose whatever they

[1:36:55] want with streamlining and a

[1:36:56] lot of clearance.

[1:36:59] It doesn't happen often but

[1:36:59] it

[1:37:00] is certainly -- there are

[1:37:03] examples in berkeley, santa

[1:37:04] monica, southern california

[1:37:05] where these projects have

[1:37:05] been

[1:37:05] pro

[1:37:06] ep proposed and once you

[1:37:08] propose it, you then have a

[1:37:10] right to that project in

[1:37:11] perpetuity.

[1:37:13] That cn be frightening for a

[1:37:13] community.

[1:37:15] >> great.

[1:37:18] This has been as a result of

[1:37:18] additional housing, right, a

[1:37:20] lot of folks say we're in a

[1:37:22] housing crisis.

[1:37:23] rhna is supposed to address

[1:37:25] this but I also wanted to

[1:37:26] point out that rhna is not

[1:37:28] just building or approving

[1:37:30] projects to build but the

[1:37:31] other implementations of the

[1:37:33] program such as you all

[1:37:35] highlighted, the displacement

[1:37:36] protections, the services,

[1:37:36] the

[1:37:38] energy efficiency, these are

[1:37:40] also meant to preserve as

[1:37:41] well

[1:37:42] as sustain and promote

[1:37:44] additional housing, so when

[1:37:44] we

[1:37:45] talk about -- I don't like

[1:37:46] how

[1:37:47] south san francisco is

[1:37:48] changing, we don't really

[1:37:49] have

[1:37:50] a choice, folks, we need to

[1:37:51] address housing.

[1:37:52] Housing I important, we

[1:37:53] could

[1:37:56] certainly make it so that

[1:37:57] there is affordablability in

[1:37:59] south san francisco but these

[1:38:01] are new implementations that

[1:38:02] are like I said not just in

[1:38:05] south san francisco but

[1:38:10] anywhere you go I the state.

[1:38:11] With that, do you have

[1:38:13] something else?

[1:38:13] >>.

[1:38:14] F MR. Mayor, iped to

[1:38:16] remind the audience, we just

[1:38:17] recently passed an ordinance

[1:38:18] that codified that if you

[1:38:19] live

[1:38:20] and work in south san

[1:38:22] francisco that you would have

[1:38:23] preferences, so I want to

[1:38:25] remind folks, and also that

[1:38:27] 3800 number in terms of

[1:38:29] residents, number of units,

[1:38:31] they did an audit on that and

[1:38:33] we apparently -- everyone

[1:38:35] according to what their audit

[1:38:36] said was understood counted,

[1:38:37] so our numbers could have

[1:38:38] been

[1:38:40] a lot higher than that than

[1:38:42] what we have and I serve on

[1:38:44] abag which is the association

[1:38:45] of bay aea governments and

[1:38:46] we

[1:38:48] are talking about the

[1:38:48] numbers,

[1:38:51] the rhna numbers, so I will

[1:38:53] have a big part in terms of

[1:38:53] what those numbers are going

[1:38:56] to be for the region and so

[1:38:58] the more we can do now t

[1:39:00] better it is for us in terms

[1:39:01] of what our rhna numbers ae

[1:39:03] going to be for the next

[1:39:03] cycle.

[1:39:07] >> great, thank you,

[1:39:09] councilmember, for that

[1:39:09] addition.

[1:39:10] This is a report only so no

[1:39:11] action taken but do we have

[1:39:11] public comments?

[1:39:13] >> we have oe public

[1:39:15] comment,

[1:39:22] fianola?

[1:39:25] >> good evening again,

[1:39:27] councilmembers.

[1:39:31] The regional housing needs

[1:39:33] assessment numbers mean

[1:39:34] nothing.

[1:39:36] You should all know that.

[1:39:38] It is surprising you don't

[1:39:43] know this.

[1:39:47] Who are you building equity

[1:39:47] for?

[1:39:50] All the tax credits from the

[1:39:56] state.

[1:39:58] For "affordable" housing

[1:39:59] units

[1:40:03] that after sometime the deed

[1:40:05] restrictions go away.

[1:40:06] They're no longer affordable.

[1:40:08] Then who owns them.

[1:40:10] Who are you building equity

[1:40:11] for?

[1:40:13] You are not building equity

[1:40:15] for regular foils.

[1:40:18] You

[1:40:19] -- folks.

[1:40:20] You're strapping everybody to

[1:40:22] be debt slaves because you

[1:40:23] are

[1:40:23] borrowing on the strength of

[1:40:27] us, the taxpayers, and we are

[1:40:29] paying those tax credits, yu

[1:40:32] do not need to build regional

[1:40:33] housing assessment numbers

[1:40:33] but

[1:40:35] yes, we need house, housing

[1:40:36] for sale that people can buy

[1:40:38] and build equity in for

[1:40:39] th

[1:40:39] els

[1:40:41] and is their fmly tos pass on

[1:40:42] into the future.

[1:40:44] Who are you building equity

[1:40:46] for?

[1:40:47] Yourselves.

[1:40:48] Because those are the people

[1:40:50] that come storming in here

[1:40:54] when it's time for elections,

[1:40:55] it's very interesting.

[1:40:57] So, you'll get the votes.

[1:40:58] But what about the people

[1:41:00] you're supposed to represent

[1:41:02] that vote in this

[1:41:02] constituency.

[1:41:04] You don't care about them.

[1:41:06] You only care about using a

[1:41:07] word that doesn't mean

[1:41:10] anything because the word

[1:41:12] affordable, everybody needs

[1:41:12] to

[1:41:14] know one unit of affordable

[1:41:18] housing costs at least -- oh,

[1:41:21] not including the recent

[1:41:21] surge

[1:41:24] in prices, 20% more to build

[1:41:27] an affordable housing unit,

[1:41:29] then.It does, a regular

[1:41:30] house.

[1:41:32] 20% more than.

[1:41:35] It is far -- it is much, much

[1:41:36] more money to build

[1:41:37] affordable

[1:41:38] housing units.

[1:41:41] The word affordable is the

[1:41:41] big

[1:41:42] cash cow that you're all

[1:41:44] relying on that people do not

[1:41:48] realize, it is unaffordable,

[1:41:49] completely unaffordable to be

[1:41:51] strapping the taxpayers with

[1:41:54] the cost of building these

[1:41:58] units when you should be

[1:42:00] building for families and

[1:42:01] people that they can build

[1:42:02] equity in to pass on to their

[1:42:03] families into the future.

[1:42:05] It is shameful, it is

[1:42:06] disgraceful that each of you

[1:42:08] sit there and ride a wave

[1:42:08] just

[1:42:10] because of a word, words have

[1:42:11] meaning.

[1:42:13] Why don't you tell the people

[1:42:16] what it means.

[1:42:18] Be honest.

[1:42:20] Where's your decency, all of

[1:42:20] you.

[1:42:23] Thank you.

[1:42:25] >> any other comments from my

[1:42:28] colleagues?

[1:42:28] Okay.

[1:42:29] Thank you.

[1:42:31] >> we do need you to take

[1:42:33] action to accept the general

[1:42:35] plan and housing element and

[1:42:38] annual progress reports and

[1:42:39] authorize transmittal to the

[1:42:40] california governor's office

[1:42:41] of land use and climate

[1:42:44] innovation and the cal torn

[1:42:44] ya

[1:42:45] department of housing and

[1:42:46] community development.

[1:42:47] >> aisle make that motion.

[1:42:48] >> I would second that.

[1:42:49] >> first and second.

[1:42:52] Can I have a roll call,

[1:42:53] please.

[1:42:53] >> councilmember nagales?

[1:42:55] >> yes.

[1:42:56] >> vice mayor addiego?

[1:42:57] >> yes.

[1:42:57] Er

[1:42:58] >> mayor flores?

[1:43:03] >> yes.

[1:43:03] >> councilmember coleman?

[1:43:05] >> yes.

[1:43:06] >> councilmember nicolas.

[1:43:08] >> item 10 is a report regard

[1:43:09] ago resolution approving

[1:43:11] program guidelines and is

[1:43:12] request for interest for the

[1:43:15] launch local vie cant retail

[1:43:17] activation pilot program.

[1:43:19] 10a is the resolution.

[1:43:22] >> welcome, MS. Donner.

[1:43:34] >> good evening.

[1:43:36] >> good evening, mayor, vice

[1:43:38] mayor, councilmembers, my

[1:43:38] name

[1:43:39] is kate tea donner,

[1:43:40] management

[1:43:42] analyst with the community

[1:43:42] and

[1:43:43] economic development

[1:43:43] department, I'm pleased to

[1:43:45] present to you the launch

[1:43:47] local vacant retail

[1:43:47] activation

[1:43:48] pilot program, a creative

[1:43:51] niche yat I ever designed to

[1:43:56] revitalize vacant store front

[1:43:56] ins south san francisco while

[1:43:57] supporting emerging local

[1:43:58] businesses.

[1:43:58] Note the powerpoint published

[1:44:00] in the agenda packet is not

[1:44:01] the most updated version.

[1:44:03] This presentation includes a

[1:44:04] few minor enhancements and

[1:44:06] printed copies of the updated

[1:44:07] slides are available in the

[1:44:11] back room.

[1:44:11] Tonight staff recommends it

[1:44:12] is

[1:44:14] city council adopt a

[1:44:15] resolution approving both the

[1:44:17] program guideline and is the

[1:44:18] request for interest or rfi

[1:44:20] for the launch local program.

[1:44:22] This approval will allow us

[1:44:22] to

[1:44:23] mover forward with

[1:44:26] implementation and tenant

[1:44:28] outreach.

[1:44:29] this program was first

[1:44:31] introduced as a study session

[1:44:33] at the FEBRUARY 12 council

[1:44:34] meeting.

[1:44:35] It responds directly to the

[1:44:37] economic and visual

[1:44:38] challenges

[1:44:39] created by persistent vacant

[1:44:41] store fronts in our

[1:44:41] commercial

[1:44:42] corridors.

[1:44:44] Launch local supports first

[1:44:46] time brick and mortar

[1:44:48] businesses through leases and

[1:44:49] a tenant allowance up to 10

[1:44:51] thousand dollars and targeted

[1:44:51] outreach.

[1:44:53] The intent is to lower

[1:44:55] barriers to entry and pilot

[1:44:56] retail concept that is have

[1:45:01] long term potential.

[1:45:02] Council provided thoughtful

[1:45:03] and clear direction in

[1:45:05] FEBRUARY which shaped the

[1:45:06] final program before you

[1:45:07] tonight.

[1:45:08] You voiced support for

[1:45:09] activation goals and

[1:45:11] emphasized the importance of

[1:45:12] prioritizing south san

[1:45:13] francisco residents.

[1:45:15] There was particular interest

[1:45:17] in reactivating the former

[1:45:18] barbershop space and concern

[1:45:20] was raised about limiting

[1:45:21] participation to a one year

[1:45:23] lease term.

[1:45:24] You also encouraged us to

[1:45:26] create a model that private

[1:45:27] property owners could adopt.

[1:45:29] That input is reflected in

[1:45:33] tonight's proposal.

[1:45:35] I would also like to raise a

[1:45:37] related item for council

[1:45:38] discussion tonight.

[1:45:40] Since the FEBRUARY 12 study

[1:45:42] session, the city has

[1:45:42] received

[1:45:43] multiple inquiry from

[1:45:44] existing

[1:45:46] businesses, both local and

[1:45:47] from neighboring cities,

[1:45:48] interested in leasing the

[1:45:50] grand avenue spaces at market

[1:45:51] rate rent outside of the

[1:45:54] launch local program.

[1:45:55] One formal lease proposal has

[1:45:57] already been submit and had

[1:45:57] we

[1:45:59] anticipate receiving another

[1:45:59] soon.

[1:46:01] Notably one of the interested

[1:46:03] parties is an existing south

[1:46:04] san francisco business

[1:46:04] looking

[1:46:06] to open a second location and

[1:46:08] lease both of the city owned

[1:46:09] storefronts on grand avenue

[1:46:11] include lg the former

[1:46:13] barbershop space.

[1:46:15] Given this interest, staff is

[1:46:16] requesting council's

[1:46:16] direction

[1:46:18] on whether to continue

[1:46:19] reserving these spaces for

[1:46:21] launch local or to consider

[1:46:23] market rate lease proposals

[1:46:24] separately?

[1:46:26] Your input will help

[1:46:26] determine

[1:46:29] how we -- your input wll

[1:46:29] help

[1:46:30] determine how we proceed with

[1:46:32] these spaces while we

[1:46:33] continue

[1:46:36] rolling out the broader

[1:46:36] program.

[1:46:37] The name launch local was

[1:46:40] selected through a survey of

[1:46:41] key stakeholders including

[1:46:42] city staff, elected officials

[1:46:44] and staff pr the renaissance

[1:46:46] entrepreneurship center at

[1:46:46] the

[1:46:48] economic advancement center.

[1:46:49] It reflects both the

[1:46:50] program's

[1:46:51] focus on local

[1:46:52] entrepreneurship x the

[1:46:54] opportunity for participants

[1:46:55] to launch their first

[1:46:57] physical

[1:46:57] location.

[1:46:59] It's memorable, energetic and

[1:47:01] rooted in place.

[1:47:02] Branding icluding a logo is

[1:47:07] currently in development.

[1:47:09] The program has four key

[1:47:12] object tiers, first activate

[1:47:13] underutilized retail spaces

[1:47:14] in

[1:47:16] south san francisco, 2,

[1:47:19] support emerging for profit

[1:47:22] businesses, particularly those

[1:47:23] without a prior brick and

[1:47:23] mortar presence, 3, encourage

[1:47:25] unique and experiential

[1:47:26] retail

[1:47:29] or service concepts, and 4,

[1:47:30] prioritize local

[1:47:31] entrepreneurs

[1:47:34] especially gaduates of the

[1:47:35] renaissance entrepreneurship

[1:47:36] center programs at the

[1:47:40] economic advancement center.

[1:47:41] Under this pilot, the city

[1:47:43] will lease out ipsbacker its

[1:47:44] own vacant retail spaces on

[1:47:47] grand avenue and el camino

[1:47:50] real at a discounted rate at

[1:47:57] $1 per square foot.

[1:47:58] The standard lease term is

[1:47:59] one

[1:48:00] year with performance based

[1:48:05] options for renewal.

[1:48:08] The rfi will open on APRIL 1

[1:48:10] and close on APRIL 30.

[1:48:12] All proposals must be

[1:48:13] submitted electronically

[1:48:15] through procure now.

[1:48:16] We'll promote the opportunity

[1:48:19] broadly through the city's

[1:48:21] channels, the chamber of

[1:48:22] commerce and the eac.

[1:48:23] Materials will be available

[1:48:23] in

[1:48:24] english and spanish with

[1:48:25] other

[1:48:30] translations upon request.

[1:48:32] eligible applicants must be

[1:48:33] for profit businesses seeking

[1:48:35] their first south san

[1:48:37] francisco location, offering

[1:48:38] a

[1:48:39] retail or experiential s

[1:48:41] frs

[1:48:41] concept.

[1:48:42] Demonstrating readiness and

[1:48:45] capacity to operate including

[1:48:46] financial sustainability,

[1:48:48] priority will be given to

[1:48:49] renaissance program graduates

[1:48:52] aligning with their goal to

[1:48:55] uplift local entrepreneurs.

[1:48:57] The lease will be 12 months

[1:48:57] in

[1:49:00] duration with monthly sales

[1:49:01] evaluations, structured as

[1:49:03] triple net meaning tenants

[1:49:03] are

[1:49:04] responsible for property

[1:49:06] taxes, insurance and

[1:49:07] utilities

[1:49:09] and tenant improvement costs

[1:49:11] are reimbursed as a rent

[1:49:11] credit, performance and

[1:49:13] consistency will be evaluated

[1:49:14] monthly and successful

[1:49:15] tenants

[1:49:19] MAY be invited to extend.

[1:49:21] Tenants will pay a security

[1:49:23] deposit of $2 per square

[1:49:24] foot,

[1:49:25] operate at least 7 hours a

[1:49:28] day, five days a week, cover

[1:49:29] costs for insurance,

[1:49:31] utilities, garbage and

[1:49:32] maintain shared spaces and

[1:49:34] hold a valid city of south

[1:49:34] san

[1:49:38] francisco business license.

[1:49:39] Proposals will be reviewed o

[1:49:43] the following criteria,

[1:49:44] str

[1:49:45] epgt and creativity of

[1:49:45] the

[1:49:48] business concept, operational

[1:49:49] and readiness, financial

[1:49:50] sustainability and potential

[1:49:52] community impact.

[1:49:56] Finalists MAY be invited to

[1:49:57] present a [Inaudible] Ad

[1:49:59] participate in an interview.

[1:50:00] The rfi will be issued on

[1:50:02] APRIL 1 and proposals will be

[1:50:03] due on APRIL 30.

[1:50:05] Through the month of APRIL,

[1:50:06] we'll be available to answer

[1:50:07] questions and we plan to

[1:50:08] announce the selected

[1:50:12] businesses at the end of MAY.

[1:50:14] There is no impact to the

[1:50:15] general fund.

[1:50:18] The program uses city owned

[1:50:20] currently vacant space and is

[1:50:22] recoups rent through tenant

[1:50:23] spaces, the tenant payment

[1:50:25] allowance is striated as rent

[1:50:28] payment, the triple lease

[1:50:30] structure ensures the city is

[1:50:32] not absorbing additional

[1:50:32] costs.

[1:50:33] Launch local is an

[1:50:34] opportunity

[1:50:36] to support local

[1:50:37] entrepreneurship, enhance the

[1:50:39] vitality of our retail

[1:50:41] corridors, create a model

[1:50:41] that

[1:50:43] privateer owners can

[1:50:43] replicate.

[1:50:44] Pending council approval

[1:50:46] tonight, we will launch the

[1:50:49] rfi on APRIL 1 and we gin

[1:50:51] tenant outreach immediately.

[1:50:53] As a reminder, we're also

[1:50:56] seeking council's guidance on

[1:50:59] how to present with the grand

[1:51:01] avenue spaces outside the

[1:51:01] launch local program, thank

[1:51:02] you for your time and

[1:51:03] attention and I'm happy to

[1:51:05] answer any questions or

[1:51:06] discuss next steps.

[1:51:07] >> thank you, katie, greet

[1:51:10] work on this, great

[1:51:11] presentation, lots to unpack,

[1:51:13] I'm sure my colleagues have

[1:51:16] questions, so let's go with

[1:51:18] councilman nicolas?

[1:51:21] >> so, katie, on the market

[1:51:23] rate, you said we will have

[1:51:28] two, right?

[1:51:31] And one is already an

[1:51:33] established south city

[1:51:34] business.

[1:51:36] Pearly I think, you know,

[1:51:37] since it's market rate and I

[1:51:38] understand we would like to

[1:51:42] preserve the historical look

[1:51:44] of the barbershop, but from

[1:51:45] my

[1:51:47] point of view, a bird in hand

[1:51:51] is worth two in the bush, but

[1:51:59] I think there are still other

[1:51:59] city city properties that we

[1:52:00] can proceed with being the

[1:52:02] pilot project fr the launch

[1:52:07] local, is that correct?

[1:52:08] >> it will just be the one on

[1:52:09] el camino, correct, yeah.

[1:52:11] >> are there others aside

[1:52:11] from

[1:52:11] these two?

[1:52:13] >> those are the only

[1:52:15] vacancies, yeah.

[1:52:17] >> and then we will encourage

[1:52:20] also the other ones that are

[1:52:22] -- if we find out or if we

[1:52:23] can

[1:52:28] prove this is -- this is a

[1:52:31] viable option for property

[1:52:32] owners, have we talked to

[1:52:32] some

[1:52:33] of them and see what their

[1:52:34] interests are?

[1:52:36] >> we haven't talked to any

[1:52:38] yet but that was our

[1:52:39] intention

[1:52:42] if this pilot program deems

[1:52:43] successful and there was

[1:52:44] interest from council to

[1:52:47] expand it, we wuld look into

[1:52:48] private property owners.

[1:52:50] >> but I'm very supportive of

[1:52:52] what you have outlined for

[1:52:52] the

[1:52:53] launch local.

[1:52:53] >> thank you.

[1:52:55] >> great, thank you.

[1:52:58] Anyone ese?

[1:52:59] >> I also am supportive of

[1:53:00] the

[1:53:01] program and we wanted to test

[1:53:03] drive it with all the

[1:53:04] properties w have available

[1:53:06] but in the meantime, katie

[1:53:07] was

[1:53:09] kind enough to show the

[1:53:10] property to a family that

[1:53:11] I've

[1:53:12] known for a dozen years who

[1:53:15] are currently in business and

[1:53:16] as the COUNCILWOMAN

[1:53:16] Mentioned,

[1:53:18] you know, a bird in the hand,

[1:53:20] so it really speaks to the

[1:53:21] viability of our downtown

[1:53:22] that

[1:53:26] somebody wants it right away

[1:53:28] and you MAY or MAY not come

[1:53:29] to

[1:53:30] agreement on all the terms,

[1:53:34] but the el camino is a whole

[1:53:34] different challenge so it

[1:53:35] will

[1:53:39] be interesting to see who's

[1:53:40] interested.

[1:53:44] As far as the tenant

[1:53:45] participation, it is -- a

[1:53:46] dollar a square foot is a

[1:53:48] great deal but all those

[1:53:48] other

[1:53:50] things add up rapidly too, so

[1:53:52] it's quite a commitment for

[1:53:54] someone coming out of a home

[1:53:56] business or just a concept,

[1:53:56] so

[1:53:57] anyway, but generally I like

[1:54:00] the idea and you were

[1:54:01] wonderful in kpix.

[1:54:05] >> thank you.

[1:54:06] >> councilmember?

[1:54:08] >> thanks, MR. Mayor, I agree

[1:54:09] with my colleagues, I think

[1:54:12] this is potentially a great

[1:54:14] pilot program.

[1:54:16] I think I kind of share the

[1:54:18] concerns in terms of like el

[1:54:20] camino real versus grand

[1:54:20] avenue.

[1:54:23] You know, one of the things I

[1:54:24] was thinking about, you know,

[1:54:27] if we place this business on

[1:54:29] grand avenue, they do well,

[1:54:30] eventually they have to

[1:54:31] rotate

[1:54:34] out or we could maybe extend

[1:54:36] the lease as well, is that

[1:54:37] another option?

[1:54:40] The idea is to rotate to have

[1:54:44] a -- not a rediscovering

[1:54:48] involver -- revolving door,

[1:54:49] but a pop up business, you

[1:54:51] would help the tenant either

[1:54:53] locate somewhere else, I

[1:54:53] that

[1:54:54] correct, or --

[1:54:55] >> yes, we could do that.

[1:54:58] >> okay, but at that point,

[1:54:59] they're paying potentially

[1:55:00] full market value?

[1:55:01] >> correct.

[1:55:03] >> and that potentially

[1:55:04] could

[1:55:05] be a problem as well because

[1:55:07] they were paying a pretty

[1:55:08] good

[1:55:10] rate and hopefully they were

[1:55:11] start in terms of saving

[1:55:11] their

[1:55:13] money and doing the right

[1:55:15] business model so they're

[1:55:16] reminded, hey, this is only

[1:55:18] temporary, you're going to be

[1:55:19] here, we want to establish

[1:55:22] your business and then

[1:55:24] potentially rotate out into

[1:55:25] another location, so I think

[1:55:27] that's going to be on you and

[1:55:29] staff to say, okay, you could

[1:55:31] have a good business model in

[1:55:32] the sense, you have to get

[1:55:34] ready for the full market,

[1:55:34] you

[1:55:36] know, so I kind of want -- a

[1:55:39] long way of singing on what

[1:55:42] are you asking them to help

[1:55:43] them relocate, I know it's

[1:55:45] early but I want you to be

[1:55:47] thinking about that.

[1:55:49] >> yeah, we haven't gotten

[1:55:51] that far in that planning

[1:55:52] process, but that's part of

[1:55:55] the reason why we want to

[1:55:56] prioritize renaissance

[1:55:56] graduates because they've

[1:55:58] gone

[1:56:02] through an extensive business

[1:56:03] class and, you know, city

[1:56:04] staff will be available to

[1:56:06] help them and renaissance

[1:56:09] staff will be available to

[1:56:10] help them, so, they learn

[1:56:12] these skills of like if

[1:56:13] they're even capable to be

[1:56:16] running a brick and mortar

[1:56:17] business ad hopefully

[1:56:20] scavenging aving -- saving

[1:56:21] some money e even if they

[1:56:23] can't hit that market rate

[1:56:27] rent, maybe it if it's 75%

[1:56:28] market rate, so that's all

[1:56:29] things we'll have to play out

[1:56:34] when we see those numbers.

[1:56:35] >> I look forward to it.

[1:56:38] There is kind of the

[1:56:38] interesting conversation of

[1:56:40] talking to other landlords to

[1:56:41] see if they're interested in

[1:56:44] doing this kind of model.

[1:56:46] Someone said they want a

[1:56:49] permitted kind of tenant,

[1:56:49] than

[1:56:51] a temporary tenant but I'm

[1:56:53] supportive of the concept.

[1:56:55] >> thank you.

[1:56:57] >> I think this I a great

[1:56:59] idea and I wanted to thank

[1:57:01] staff for having the

[1:57:01] visionary

[1:57:03] in them to present this to us

[1:57:05] and to really activate these

[1:57:07] vacant spaces so I'm ready to

[1:57:08] mover forward with the pilot

[1:57:10] program and I can't wait to

[1:57:11] see which businesses move in.

[1:57:12] >> thank you.

[1:57:13] >> thank you, this is

[1:57:14] exciting, this is the right

[1:57:15] direction that we need to

[1:57:16] head

[1:57:19] not only for downtown but for

[1:57:20] our entire city being a

[1:57:22] creative out of the box

[1:57:23] thinking, I really appreciate

[1:57:24] the name too and looking

[1:57:26] forward to the logo.

[1:57:27] In the guidelines when you

[1:57:29] determine who can apply, you

[1:57:30] said for profit businesses

[1:57:32] seeking first south city

[1:57:33] location but you're also

[1:57:34] mentioning this local one

[1:57:36] would have a second south

[1:57:36] city

[1:57:38] location, so is that just a

[1:57:39] caveat for that particular

[1:57:40] case?

[1:57:42] >> so, that's what we mean,

[1:57:44] like, that's what we wanted

[1:57:44] to

[1:57:46] get some guidance on is do we

[1:57:48] want to make an exception to

[1:57:49] this program, do we really

[1:57:51] want to reserve these spaces

[1:57:54] for launch local or would we

[1:57:55] like to have something that's

[1:57:58] possibly a bit more secure

[1:57:59] that's an established

[1:58:00] business, can afford the

[1:58:04] market rate rent and work on

[1:58:05] lease negotiation terms with

[1:58:07] them and then maybe we find a

[1:58:09] different way, like w just

[1:58:12] focus on el camino, do we

[1:58:14] start maybe having talks with

[1:58:15] private property owners?

[1:58:17] >> because it doesn't really

[1:58:20] fit into your name if it's

[1:58:20] launch local, right.

[1:58:21] >> correct.

[1:58:21] Er

[1:58:22] >> you have to rename it.

[1:58:23] >> yes.

[1:58:24] Er

[1:58:26] >> I'm supportive like my

[1:58:29] colleagues have said, I'm

[1:58:30] open

[1:58:34] to el camino, grand avenue we

[1:58:35] could prioritize for our

[1:58:35] local

[1:58:38] businesses here that would

[1:58:39] like to expand, right, or

[1:58:39] have

[1:58:40] a second location.

[1:58:46] I think it fits with the nay

[1:58:47] ture and khur and the fabric

[1:58:50] of downtown and represented

[1:58:54] in that sector of businesses.

[1:58:59] I can't speak enough, their

[1:59:00] program fully vets them and

[1:59:02] fully prepares them, not only

[1:59:03] in city permitting but in

[1:59:05] marketing and being able to

[1:59:07] launch and being able to

[1:59:09] network and really sell and

[1:59:11] equips them with the tools,

[1:59:12] the important tools they need

[1:59:14] to be a successful business

[1:59:15] owner so that's the key for

[1:59:18] me, being able to already

[1:59:21] connect individuals that are

[1:59:22] ready, are in the right

[1:59:24] mindset and the space to move

[1:59:26] forward and I think the lease

[1:59:28] structure and the program

[1:59:30] guidelines are extremely well

[1:59:31] thought out, so I'm very

[1:59:33] supportive of this, thank you.

[1:59:34] Good job again, I appreciate

[1:59:34] this.

[1:59:36] >> I have one more question.

[1:59:37] I was a little bit confused

[1:59:38] by

[1:59:40] some of the questions and the

[1:59:41] answers to MR. Nagales.

[1:59:44] So, if we have somebody go in

[1:59:50] for that 12 months initially,

[1:59:51] they're not automatically out

[1:59:52] in month 13, are they?

[1:59:54] >> no.

[1:59:56] >> a very lng time ago, I

[1:59:56] was

[1:59:59] if business, the first yar

[1:59:59] is

[2:00:01] a xwlaoet blur, you can

[2:00:02] barely

[2:00:06] get your bearings the first

[2:00:07] year, we want somebody to be

[2:00:11] able to grow their roots in a

[2:00:12] business.

[2:00:14] >> yes.

[2:00:15] >> nell selander here, I

[2:00:17] wanted to add one thing, the

[2:00:19] year check-in is a great

[2:00:20] opportunity for us to make

[2:00:21] sure they're oerating the

[2:00:23] business they intended to, so

[2:00:26] one of the big object tiers

[2:00:26] of

[2:00:31] the program is activation and

[2:00:36] being more vibrant and what

[2:00:39] can often happen with a

[2:00:40] business that's struggling is

[2:00:41] their hours get reduced and

[2:00:41] reduced and maybe they start

[2:00:42] using the space for a

[2:00:43] different it is back office

[2:00:46] for this or it's, you know,

[2:00:49] it's nt what was intended by

[2:00:51] the program, so the year

[2:00:53] check-in and the monthly

[2:00:53] sales

[2:00:55] reports are really important

[2:00:56] so that we're getting what

[2:00:56] the

[2:00:58] program is intended to

[2:00:59] provide

[2:01:02] which is active service or

[2:01:04] retail and that year check-in

[2:01:05] will be more about the

[2:01:07] performance of the business

[2:01:11] and can they afford market

[2:01:12] rate today, but we want to

[2:01:14] make sure we have that check

[2:01:15] so we don't end up with

[2:01:17] another space that's

[2:01:17] underutilized.

[2:01:19] >> I think it's interesting

[2:01:19] to

[2:01:21] see so much o the

[2:01:22] construction, the commercial

[2:01:24] development of the ground

[2:01:25] floor has not been a roaring

[2:01:27] success n the city of san

[2:01:32] mateo, there's a doper called

[2:01:34] essex na has a project on dep

[2:01:35] ware avenue near 92, they

[2:01:36] announced they're goipg the

[2:01:38] leave their office space in

[2:01:39] downtown san mateo and take

[2:01:40] over the commercial space on

[2:01:42] the ground floor to ativate

[2:01:46] the other part of the retail

[2:01:47] space, besides the 500 tenant

[2:01:49] that is are in the building,

[2:01:51] they're going to have a

[2:01:51] couple

[2:01:52] of 100 employees working in

[2:01:53] the offices there.

[2:01:55] Are we able to do the same

[2:01:55] thing?

[2:01:57] I know in the past, we had

[2:01:58] some restrictions on what

[2:02:00] could go in the ground floor

[2:02:02] but are we ale to do

[2:02:04] something similar where it

[2:02:05] could b maybe an intense

[2:02:07] office use to generate

[2:02:12] activity on the street?

[2:02:13] >> billy with planning

[2:02:15] division, we have taken a

[2:02:15] way,

[2:02:18] any requirement for even

[2:02:20] commercial space, it's more

[2:02:22] about design, does it have an

[2:02:25] active front, does it have

[2:02:26] windows, it could be office

[2:02:27] space, we don't require there

[2:02:31] to be a certain percentage of

[2:02:32] commercial space, it's all

[2:02:33] design related.

[2:02:34] >> before we were looking for

[2:02:36] the retail experience and

[2:02:36] that

[2:02:39] has evaporated.

[2:02:40] >> it could be a senior

[2:02:42] center, it could be a

[2:02:43] community center.

[2:02:45] It could be a lot of things

[2:02:45] happening, especially I

[2:02:48] downtown and anywhere else.

[2:02:48] Alright.

[2:02:50] If I don't have any o

[2:02:51] ir

[2:02:51] other

[2:02:52] comments or questions --

[2:02:54] >> I just want to clarify

[2:02:54] from

[2:02:57] my understanding, is

[2:02:57] council's

[2:02:59] direction that the preference

[2:03:00] -- are we hearing a

[2:03:01] preference

[2:03:02] for an established business

[2:03:03] to

[2:03:04] rent this retail space at

[2:03:06] market rate or are you saying

[2:03:11] we should give preference to

[2:03:12] the launch local folks?

[2:03:14] I'm trying to understand what

[2:03:15] your preference is.

[2:03:18] We would -- the el camino one

[2:03:20] is vacant, that could be a

[2:03:21] launch local, and in the

[2:03:23] future, other city owned

[2:03:23] properties could become

[2:03:25] vacant, once we have the

[2:03:26] guidelines and the framework

[2:03:30] and we have one pilot in el

[2:03:31] camino, I'm trying to get

[2:03:33] whether we should pursue this

[2:03:33] other opportunity for

[2:03:34] somebody

[2:03:36] that wants tos rent it at

[2:03:37] market rate or hold those

[2:03:38] spaces for launch local.

[2:03:40] I want to be clear with that.

[2:03:42] >> aisle reiterate, you can't

[2:03:43] imagine smebody walking by

[2:03:45] and somebody wants to do

[2:03:46] market rate right now.

[2:03:48] >> that's how I feel, and in

[2:03:53] terms of making sure that the

[2:03:55] historical effects, maybe the

[2:03:56] historical society will be

[2:04:00] pressed and we'll focus on

[2:04:00] the

[2:04:02] 366 el camino, perhaps what

[2:04:03] we

[2:04:05] can do is perhaps the

[2:04:06] renaissance graduates will be

[2:04:08] -- because the place there,

[2:04:14] there's a lab and a florist,

[2:04:16] maybe something that will be

[2:04:17] complementing to those

[2:04:18] establishments that are

[2:04:19] already in there.

[2:04:22] i went to milty lab one day

[2:04:24] and there's long line and a

[2:04:25] long waiting list so I think

[2:04:27] the business is tieing and

[2:04:29] florist, it looks like

[2:04:29] they're

[2:04:31] doing business, so I think

[2:04:32] from the renaissance

[2:04:35] graduates, we can have a hand

[2:04:36] in picking out all of those

[2:04:38] that we will be doing the

[2:04:40] launch local projects so that

[2:04:42] we will be assured they will

[2:04:44] be thriving.

[2:04:51] >> got it, thank you so much.

[2:04:53] >> that's not just one, it is

[2:04:54] a huge space, hopefully that

[2:04:56] is one of the tenants there,

[2:04:57] hopefully we get that taken

[2:05:00] care of too, right.

[2:05:02] >> great, you have direction.

[2:05:03] I think this is also

[2:05:04] important

[2:05:08] to note that it's good the

[2:05:08] one

[2:05:09] year check-in, provide data

[2:05:10] for us, right.

[2:05:10] That way request

[2:05:11] f we can

[2:05:12] make an informed decision.

[2:05:14] I think after all this I a

[2:05:15] pilot program so we're able

[2:05:16] to

[2:05:17] kind of finesse and tweak a

[2:05:19] few things but for right now,

[2:05:21] this is what we're -- I'm

[2:05:23] hearing consensus from my

[2:05:24] colleagues here.

[2:05:25] Good?

[2:05:25] Okay.

[2:05:27] >> you need a motion?

[2:05:28] >> let me check on public

[2:05:29] comments first.

[2:05:30] >> no pblic comments but we

[2:05:31] do need a motion.

[2:05:35] >> we do need a motion now.

[2:05:37] >> I will make the motion, is

[2:05:37] there a second?

[2:05:38] >> I second.

[2:05:40] >> thank you, piser and

[2:05:42] second, roll call.

[2:05:43] >> vice mayor yeasting goe?

[2:05:44] >> yes.

[2:05:45] >> councilmember coleman?

[2:05:45] >> yes.

[2:05:46] Er maifrjt yor flores?

[2:05:47] .

[2:05:48] Inger yes.

[2:05:49] >> councilmember nagales?

[2:05:51] >> aye.

[2:05:51] >> councilmember nicolas?

[2:05:52] >> aye.

[2:05:58] >> moving on to item 11 is a

[2:06:00] record regarding a resolution

[2:06:02] approving an increase to the

[2:06:03] south san francisco toe

[2:06:06] services rates to the maximum

[2:06:07] allowable toeing rate that is

[2:06:09] are comparable to other

[2:06:09] police

[2:06:10] agencies in northern san

[2:06:12] mateo

[2:06:12] county.

[2:06:14] And 11a is the resolution.

[2:06:16] >> tla's why you all are here

[2:06:16] today.

[2:06:19] >> thank you, good evening,

[2:06:20] councilmembers, my name is

[2:06:22] adam plank, one of the

[2:06:23] captains with the police

[2:06:24] department.

[2:06:25] Tonight my presentation

[2:06:27] involves an overview of the

[2:06:29] city's rotational tow

[2:06:31] program

[2:06:33] and a request to update those

[2:06:36] fees ask the industry

[2:06:37] standard

[2:06:38] for city ins san mateo county.

[2:06:41] The police department have

[2:07:00] vehicles removed from the

[2:07:01] [Inaudible] Insurance

[2:07:02] requirements, alcohol and

[2:07:02] drug

[2:07:04] testing loosing kaix of where

[2:07:06] those storage lots are,

[2:07:08] response times, safeguarding

[2:07:09] vehicles and following the

[2:07:10] maximum rates that tow

[2:07:12] companies can charge for

[2:07:13] police generated tows are

[2:07:13] some

[2:07:15] of those regulations.

[2:07:19] Those regulations ensure that

[2:07:21] tow companies provide safe

[2:07:21] quality service to our

[2:07:22] community and their vehicles

[2:07:23] are accessible and within

[2:07:24] secured storage facilities if

[2:07:27] south san francisco.

[2:07:28] A police generated tow

[2:07:28] request

[2:07:33] can happen for a variety of

[2:07:33] reasons.

[2:07:35] And those could include a

[2:07:36] vehicle that's blocking a

[2:07:39] roadway and cannot be safely

[2:07:41] moved, certain violations of

[2:07:43] the vehicle code like

[2:07:43] blocking

[2:07:44] someone's driveway and we're

[2:07:46] unable to get a hold of that

[2:07:47] owner, parking in a a posted

[2:07:48] construction zone, a marked

[2:07:50] tow away zone and we can't

[2:07:50] get

[2:07:53] a hold of those owners and

[2:07:55] also when certain cases when

[2:07:56] a

[2:07:57] driver's arrested, the

[2:07:57] vehicle

[2:07:58] can't safely remain parked at

[2:07:59] the scene.

[2:08:03] We do make attempts to locate

[2:08:05] the owner and have the

[2:08:06] vehicle

[2:08:08] moved prior to it being towed

[2:08:10] in the crcumstances where we

[2:08:12] have that ability to make

[2:08:14] that

[2:08:15] decision.

[2:08:16] Our mximum allowable tow

[2:08:18] rates have been unchanged

[2:08:20] since 2016 resulting in our

[2:08:22] rates being the lowest of the

[2:08:23] 8 jurisdictions in northern

[2:08:25] san mateo county.

[2:08:29] Tow companies like other

[2:08:31] businesses have expressed

[2:08:34] experiences with increased

[2:08:35] operational costs like rent,

[2:08:37] equipment, fuel, insurance

[2:08:37] and

[2:08:40] labor costs, per our

[2:08:41] municipal

[2:08:43] code, those police maximum

[2:08:47] allowable tow fees can be

[2:08:49] adjusted after a review from

[2:08:50] the police department and

[2:08:51] after speaking to a

[2:08:51] designated

[2:08:54] representative of those tow

[2:08:54] companies.

[2:08:55] And conducting a survey of

[2:08:58] what the other rotational tow

[2:09:00] companies in northern san

[2:09:03] mateo county cities charge.

[2:09:05] The current fee in south san

[2:09:08] francisco for a basic tow fee

[2:09:09] is $225.

[2:09:10] After meeting with the

[2:09:11] representative of the tow

[2:09:14] companies, we conducted a

[2:09:19] survey, as you can se on the

[2:09:20] chart, san francisco fees are

[2:09:23] the lowest of those 8 cities

[2:09:27] in northern san mateo county.

[2:09:29] The srvey that we conducted

[2:09:31] taking south san francisco

[2:09:32] out

[2:09:35] showed an average of $323 per

[2:09:36] tow as being the average

[2:09:37] levering south san francisco

[2:09:40] in as one of the 8 -- the

[2:09:44] average would be $311 per tow.

[2:09:45] The tow companies in addition

[2:09:46] to the survey, the tow

[2:09:48] companies have proposed we

[2:09:49] increase the basic tow

[2:09:50] service

[2:09:52] fee to $325 so they remain

[2:09:54] comparable to other

[2:09:55] jurisdictions in northern san

[2:09:56] mateo cunty.

[2:10:00] On our next slide, you will

[2:10:03] see what those proposed rates

[2:10:06] would be and the additional

[2:10:07] services that are involved in

[2:10:09] towing vehicles.

[2:10:11] It's important to note that

[2:10:12] most vehicles only require a

[2:10:15] basic tow and a basic storage

[2:10:16] fee.

[2:10:16] On some occassions,

[2:10:17] specialized equipment lke a

[2:10:21] flat bed a dolly, or a more

[2:10:22] heavy duty medium sized heavy

[2:10:24] duty or super duty truck are

[2:10:27] needed to safely remover a

[2:10:29] vehicle, a bus, a larger

[2:10:31] vehicle from the safe --

[2:10:35] safely from the road.

[2:10:38] On our next slide, if the

[2:10:40] proposed fees were accepted

[2:10:42] and approved, this would show

[2:10:44] where south san francisco

[2:10:47] would be with those adjusted

[2:10:48] rates, it's not at the very

[2:10:49] top, it's in the middle,

[2:10:53] comparable with the other

[2:10:55] agencies.

[2:10:57] In speaking with a couple

[2:10:58] other agencies in northern

[2:10:59] san

[2:11:00] mateo county, I learned that

[2:11:01] there are other cities on

[2:11:02] this

[2:11:05] list that are looking to also

[2:11:06] evaluate and adjust their

[2:11:09] rates to keep them current

[2:11:11] with the industry standard.

[2:11:14] As noted in the staff report,

[2:11:15] but worth mentioning tonight,

[2:11:17] all all of the proposed fees

[2:11:18] we're talking about do not

[2:11:19] get

[2:11:20] paid to the city, these are

[2:11:22] paid to the tow truck

[2:11:24] companies and for their

[2:11:26] services in towing these

[2:11:28] vehicles dependent upon the

[2:11:29] circumstances.

[2:11:31] So, in conclusion, the

[2:11:33] rotational tow program

[2:11:34] establishes a standard level

[2:11:36] of service that tow companies

[2:11:38] must provide, it's regulated,

[2:11:40] when performing their police

[2:11:42] generated tows, the maximum

[2:11:44] allowable tow fees have been

[2:11:46] unchanged since 2016 and

[2:11:47] currently don't accurately

[2:11:49] reflect the industry standard

[2:11:51] for northern san mateo county.

[2:11:52] It's recommended that city

[2:11:54] council review and adopt the

[2:11:55] proposed rate adjustments for

[2:11:57] the maximum allowable fees

[2:11:59] associated with police

[2:11:59] generated tow services.

[2:12:02] Thank you, that concludes my

[2:12:03] presentation, I'm available

[2:12:05] for questions and with me

[2:12:05] here

[2:12:07] tonight are a representative

[2:12:07] from each of the tow

[2:12:08] companies

[2:12:10] if you have an operational

[2:12:11] question or something

[2:12:11] specific

[2:12:12] that I wouldn't be able to

[2:12:14] answer for you.

[2:12:16] >> thank you, captain plank,

[2:12:16] I

[2:12:17] appreciate the presentation.

[2:12:21] Any questions?

[2:12:22] Councilmember nagales?

[2:12:24] >> thank you.

[2:12:26] I appreciate kind of just

[2:12:27] understanding what the actual

[2:12:28] increase is ging to be

[2:12:29] paying

[2:12:32] for because I wasn't quite

[2:12:34] sure, like, I was looking at

[2:12:35] it like, okay, aren't we

[2:12:36] getting a better deal by

[2:12:40] paying less I terms of the

[2:12:42] rate but you answered the

[2:12:43] question for me.

[2:12:44] So, when someone goes in, I

[2:12:46] want to understand the fees

[2:12:47] here, so what you're asking

[2:12:49] for the basic tow fees is

[2:12:52] going to be 325 now, the

[2:12:54] person would come in and pay

[2:12:54] for that.

[2:12:56] There was something about an

[2:12:57] administrative fee on the

[2:12:59] bottom of the attachment b,

[2:13:00] there was an administrative

[2:13:01] fee?

[2:13:02] >> yes, on the bottom of the

[2:13:03] tow form?

[2:13:04] >> yes.

[2:13:08] >> yes, that is a south city

[2:13:09] of south san francisco fee

[2:13:11] that's in our master fee

[2:13:14] schedule for the processing

[2:13:15] of

[2:13:16] paperwork, the mailing of

[2:13:18] notices when a vehicle gets

[2:13:22] towed to the registered

[2:13:23] owner, that's the

[2:13:25] administrative costs that are

[2:13:27] paid to the police department

[2:13:28] when there's a police

[2:13:31] generated tow.

[2:13:33] >> so I want to get that

[2:13:34] process correct, when

[2:13:36] someone's car gets towed, not

[2:13:39] only are they paying

[2:13:40] potentially a $325 towing

[2:13:41] fee,

[2:13:43] but now they're paying this

[2:13:43] administrative fee as well?

[2:13:44] >> yes, that's correct.

[2:13:47] And that's a vehicle release

[2:13:47] fee.

[2:13:49] >> which is $160 now.

[2:13:49] Er

[2:13:52] >> yes, it is.

[2:13:54] >> okay, has there been a

[2:13:54] time

[2:13:56] when an individual has come

[2:13:56] to

[2:13:58] the towing company and sy I

[2:14:00] can't pay for these fees,

[2:14:00] it's

[2:14:01] too high.

[2:14:02] Is there like a payment plan

[2:14:05] that a person can do in terms

[2:14:06] of trying to release the

[2:14:09] vehicle?

[2:14:10] >> in speaking to at least

[2:14:10] one

[2:14:13] of the companies, they did

[2:14:15] express an option case by

[2:14:15] case

[2:14:16] based on the circumstances

[2:14:19] where a payment plan might be

[2:14:23] an option but it's also

[2:14:25] somewhat o a risky option if

[2:14:27] the vhicle is being released

[2:14:28] and there's an agreement that

[2:14:30] doesn't get fulfilled.

[2:14:34] >> now, the person's already

[2:14:34] being penalized already, and

[2:14:36] for those who are potentially

[2:14:37] low income and having a

[2:14:39] difficult time paying for

[2:14:40] these fees, a lot of the

[2:14:41] folks

[2:14:42] rely on their vehicle to get

[2:14:45] to work or to get to point a

[2:14:48] to point b, so I'm just

[2:14:49] trying

[2:14:50] to understand what the

[2:14:50] process

[2:14:52] is in terms of if someone is

[2:14:53] having a difficult time

[2:14:54] paying

[2:14:54] for it.

[2:14:56] If the person can't pay for

[2:14:58] it, the car is going to be in

[2:15:00] storage and now they can't

[2:15:03] travel, you know or I guess

[2:15:04] they have to take public

[2:15:05] transportation in this case z.

[2:15:09] >> from speak toing the tow

[2:15:11] companies, the tow fee and

[2:15:11] any

[2:15:13] associated storage fees

[2:15:16] usually isn't the hurdle that

[2:15:18] needs to get over in order to

[2:15:21] get the car out.

[2:15:24] Oftentimes, there is

[2:15:24] associated expired

[2:15:26] registration fee that is are

[2:15:28] owed to dmv that ae required

[2:15:30] to be paid in current prior

[2:15:31] to

[2:15:32] getting thing vehicle

[2:15:32] released

[2:15:34] and back to them.

[2:15:39] Also if there are other

[2:15:40] circumstances, a driver's

[2:15:41] license if the registered

[2:15:43] owner has a a dmv issue that

[2:15:45] needs to be corrected, there

[2:15:46] might be something that needs

[2:15:49] to be handled at dmv prior to

[2:15:51] going to the tow to address

[2:15:52] the basic fee and storage.

[2:15:55] >> thank you for answering

[2:15:56] that, I wonder if this is a a

[2:15:57] hindrance in trying to

[2:15:58] release

[2:16:00] the vehicle, but it sound

[2:16:00] like

[2:16:02] that's not the main issue.

[2:16:04] Are they located in south san

[2:16:05] francisco, these three

[2:16:07] companies?

[2:16:11] >> bob junior's is located on

[2:16:13] south linden, action tow has

[2:16:16] an office on north canal --

[2:16:19] south canal and courtesy tow,

[2:16:22] I'm drawing a blank.

[2:16:23] On montgomery avenue jst

[2:16:23] into

[2:16:24] san bruno.

[2:16:27] >> that means the fast

[2:16:28] service

[2:16:29] service when we need tem.

[2:16:30] >> which is one of the

[2:16:31] requirements, either within

[2:16:32] south san francisco or a

[2:16:33] certain distance from our

[2:16:34] city

[2:16:36] limit that is allows anyone

[2:16:38] who's having their car towed

[2:16:39] from our police department

[2:16:42] doesn't have to travel

[2:16:44] multiple cities away or be

[2:16:45] inconvenienced in order to

[2:16:46] access their car.

[2:16:48] >> okay, thank you, I'm fine

[2:16:48] with this now.

[2:16:49] Thank you.

[2:16:50] >> thank you.

[2:16:53] Other questions?

[2:16:54] Go ahead, COUNCILWOMAN.

[2:16:56] >> captain plank, if a a car

[2:16:59] is towed not because of te

[2:17:01] owner's fault, say for

[2:17:02] example

[2:17:03] it's been car napped and

[2:17:05] vandalized and it didn't get

[2:17:07] to an owner until sometime

[2:17:10] later, how -- are they still

[2:17:11] liable to pay for all those

[2:17:12] charges?

[2:17:17] >> if a vehicle is recovered

[2:17:19] stolen vehicle, if the

[2:17:19] registered owner is the

[2:17:20] victim

[2:17:21] of a crime and it's towed as

[2:17:21] a

[2:17:24] result of that crime, our fee

[2:17:27] at the police department can

[2:17:32] be wavered by us vered --

[2:17:33] wavered by us under those

[2:17:33] circumstances.

[2:17:35] The other fee that is are

[2:17:36] assessed by the tow

[2:17:37] companies,

[2:17:38] if there's isurance

[2:17:38] involved,

[2:17:41] whether it's triple a or some

[2:17:43] other type of insurance that

[2:17:44] has coverage on whatever

[2:17:45] other

[2:17:45] circumstances happened, I

[2:17:46] know

[2:17:48] that that is an option for

[2:17:51] what was described to me as a

[2:17:51] reimbursement from those

[2:17:53] companies, maybe an upfront

[2:17:54] charge with the insurance

[2:17:56] reimbursing at a later time,

[2:17:58] but more specifically I might

[2:17:59] need to refer to one of the

[2:18:02] tow companies for how the

[2:18:07] processing of the transaction

[2:18:08] would be.

[2:18:10] >> could we hve them come up

[2:18:12] and give us the scenario

[2:18:17] please, if you don't mind.

[2:18:18] Good evening, welcome.

[2:18:21] >> my name is brian banks,

[2:18:21] the

[2:18:24] opener of action towing.

[2:18:25] So, probably 95% of the tows

[2:18:27] that we are doing are

[2:18:27] normally

[2:18:29] not the situation you're

[2:18:30] describing, they're only

[2:18:30] about

[2:18:32] 5% of the tows we're doing.

[2:18:33] The majority of the tows

[2:18:33] we're

[2:18:35] doing are people that have

[2:18:37] violated laws, have not paid

[2:18:39] their registrations, are

[2:18:40] driving without driver's

[2:18:42] licenses and in some cases

[2:18:44] many of the cases the cars

[2:18:46] we're towing, probably 50% of

[2:18:47] the cases we're doing in

[2:18:48] south

[2:18:50] san francisco is abandoned

[2:18:50] vehicles.

[2:18:52] So, it MAY seem like a lot of

[2:18:53] money to you guys as you're

[2:18:54] processing this, what you

[2:18:55] need

[2:18:56] to understand is that more

[2:18:58] than 50% of these vehicles,

[2:19:00] probably more like 65 or 70

[2:19:02] percent of these vehicles are

[2:19:03] never being picked up.

[2:19:05] You guys have done a

[2:19:05] wonderful

[2:19:06] job in south san francisco

[2:19:07] and

[2:19:08] being here tonight, this is

[2:19:09] amazing and beautiful and

[2:19:11] we're doing our part to help

[2:19:13] keep your streets clean.

[2:19:15] So, what we're asking for is

[2:19:15] a

[2:19:16] rate increase because of the

[2:19:18] fact that our businesses,

[2:19:19] you've heard it from your

[2:19:21] planning department and

[2:19:22] everybody else, things have

[2:19:24] gone through the roof.

[2:19:26] Metal for us is at a 7 year

[2:19:28] low and so that's how we get

[2:19:29] paid for these vehicle,

[2:19:31] sometimes we might tow a car

[2:19:32] where we have a driver goes

[2:19:34] out and tows it, he's on the

[2:19:35] job for an hour and a half,

[2:19:38] two hours, we have to pay a

[2:19:40] lien sale fee, we have to

[2:19:41] store this vehicle for

[2:19:41] upwards

[2:19:44] of some cases, anywhere will

[2:19:45] be a quick one will be 30 day

[2:19:47] and is a long one will be 6

[2:19:49] months, we're stringing in a

[2:19:50] building, rents are not

[2:19:50] cheap,

[2:19:53] we discussed what it is a

[2:19:55] square foot, especially for a

[2:19:58] warehouse so, the expenses

[2:19:58] are

[2:20:00] enormous and most of the

[2:20:01] vehicles are not being picked

[2:20:03] up websinger eve seen

[2:20:04] inflation of our equipment

[2:20:04] has

[2:20:07] gone up over 30% to buy a new

[2:20:08] tow truck, our insurance is

[2:20:11] going up on average just like

[2:20:13] yours, I'm insurance on your

[2:20:15] homes 20% a year tha,'s the

[2:20:17] facts of what's going on, all

[2:20:19] of these expenses are goipg

[2:20:21] up, we're not trying to

[2:20:21] punish

[2:20:23] -- it looks like a lot of

[2:20:25] money but we're not trying to

[2:20:26] punish good people, we have

[2:20:26] to

[2:20:27] pay for the s

[2:20:27] frs we provide

[2:20:29] for the city and keeping your

[2:20:30] streets clean s you guys

[2:20:30] will

[2:20:31] continue to mover forward and

[2:20:33] have this beautiful city

[2:20:33] where

[2:20:35] people want to develop

[2:20:37] apartment and is buildings

[2:20:38] and

[2:20:39] do business here, so the

[2:20:39] other

[2:20:42] answer to your question is

[2:20:44] those 5%, most of those

[2:20:44] people

[2:20:45] do have insurance, like if

[2:20:45] you

[2:20:47] were in an accident and the

[2:20:49] people that hit you did not

[2:20:50] have insurance, you would

[2:20:50] lean

[2:20:52] on your insurance on that, if

[2:20:54] there's accident and is your

[2:20:56] car is stolen, the good

[2:20:57] people

[2:20:58] seem to pay the fees for the

[2:20:59] bad people and there's no

[2:21:00] other way around that but

[2:21:02] providing they have good

[2:21:03] insurance and follow the laws

[2:21:05] that they have, normally the

[2:21:07] insurance will come ad

[2:21:08] reimburse them for their

[2:21:10] expense and is most of the

[2:21:12] time the insurance picks them

[2:21:14] up, the people who do pick

[2:21:15] them up primarily are the

[2:21:19] people that have dui's,

[2:21:21] expired reds, driving on a

[2:21:23] suspended license, not good

[2:21:28] behavior they're being pun

[2:21:29] --

[2:21:30] punished for a reason, this

[2:21:30] is

[2:21:33] another part of a punishment,

[2:21:34] that's why we're asking for

[2:21:36] more money, for the obvious

[2:21:38] expenses we have, we've been

[2:21:39] good partners to the city for

[2:21:41] a long time, we asked for a

[2:21:42] long period of time for

[2:21:43] raises, ask you guys have

[2:21:46] worked for us but we feel

[2:21:47] this

[2:21:48] is necessary, we hope you

[2:21:49] take

[2:21:50] this into consideration what

[2:21:51] we're asking for tonight.

[2:21:55] >> my name is steven, I'm

[2:21:56] with

[2:21:57] bob junior towing, we eer

[2:21:59] been around a long time here

[2:22:02] and bryan pretty much said

[2:22:03] what's happening with our

[2:22:07] towing companies and there's

[2:22:07] two different entities when

[2:22:08] it

[2:22:12] comes to the towing, we want

[2:22:15] to take care of the people

[2:22:17] within south san francisco as

[2:22:18] well as te people that are

[2:22:20] coming through the city as

[2:22:23] well and when we do that, it

[2:22:26] is not easy for them, what

[2:22:26] you

[2:22:27] were saying, how do you pay

[2:22:29] for it and what do you do

[2:22:29] when

[2:22:31] they come to you and all

[2:22:31] those

[2:22:35] types of things.

[2:22:36] It's a tough situation we

[2:22:36] have

[2:22:37] to go through and every

[2:22:38] scenario is different than

[2:22:38] the

[2:22:41] other one and we take a look

[2:22:43] at each and every individual

[2:22:44] within this city and also

[2:22:46] outside the city when they

[2:22:47] come here.

[2:22:49] And it's a tough decision on

[2:22:51] our end to make that decision

[2:22:52] on how we're going to do this

[2:22:53] with them.

[2:22:56] We want to do it in a really

[2:22:59] -- the expenses of this, it's

[2:23:00] really expensive for them to

[2:23:02] get the car released, go to

[2:23:03] the police department and

[2:23:04] have

[2:23:06] that done as well, go to the

[2:23:08] dmv, by the time they come

[2:23:09] tows, they're pretty upset so

[2:23:11] we want to make it as

[2:23:12] pleasant

[2:23:13] as we can for these folks and

[2:23:15] make it to where they could e

[2:23:16] either afford to get their

[2:23:16] car

[2:23:18] out, if not, then we have to

[2:23:19] look at different options and

[2:23:21] a lot of times the different

[2:23:22] options that they don't come

[2:23:24] to get their cars out, so

[2:23:26] we're stuck with that.

[2:23:27] We have to process the

[2:23:29] vehicles like he was saying

[2:23:32] and it's a low time with the

[2:23:34] junk industry and all those

[2:23:36] types of things and it's

[2:23:38] getting tougher to do

[2:23:38] business

[2:23:40] with that.

[2:23:42] It's pretty much what brian

[2:23:44] was saying, the cost of the

[2:23:45] rents and the insurance and

[2:23:46] stuff like that.

[2:23:47] >> thank you, I appreciate

[2:23:47] that.

[2:23:50] >> thank you.

[2:23:53] >> good evening, my name is

[2:23:55] gino with courtesy tow and it

[2:23:57] pretty much sums it up, what

[2:23:58] my other two colleagues have

[2:24:01] said, insurance costs are

[2:24:02] through the roof, prices of

[2:24:04] newer trucks ask newer

[2:24:06] equipment to stay doing

[2:24:09] business in california, the

[2:24:12] regulations of the def

[2:24:13] regulations, retiring old

[2:24:15] trucks, having to buy new

[2:24:17] equipment, having to invest

[2:24:17] in

[2:24:19] new equipment, driver

[2:24:22] education, safety programs,

[2:24:25] workers compensation, it all

[2:24:28] costs, so we expect cities

[2:24:29] that we do business with to

[2:24:31] kind of stay as competitive

[2:24:31] as

[2:24:32] possible.

[2:24:38] It is unfortunate like my

[2:24:39] colleagues said but the

[2:24:40] insurance per truck per year

[2:24:44] is 25 to 30 thousand dollars

[2:24:45] per truck per year

[2:24:46] televising's not many

[2:24:47] companies souring, it's hard

[2:24:49] to do business in california

[2:24:52] bottom line and it's

[2:24:52] unfortunate to say that but

[2:24:53] we

[2:24:54] have to stay with what's

[2:24:54] working.

[2:24:56] >> thank you.

[2:24:58] >> any questions to the

[2:24:58] operators?

[2:25:01] >> the last time we loked at

[2:25:02] this was 2016?

[2:25:04] >> yes, that is correct.

[2:25:06] >> so, are they willing to

[2:25:07] not

[2:25:11] come back for another 9 -- 8

[2:25:12] years?

[2:25:13] >> I wuld like to make a

[2:25:14] suggestion.

[2:25:16] I don't know if you guys are

[2:25:17] open to this or not, with

[2:25:18] most

[2:25:19] agencies, we renew on an

[2:25:21] annual basis and one of the

[2:25:22] things I would suggest if

[2:25:22] it's

[2:25:23] possible and it's not too

[2:25:25] late, we put some sort of

[2:25:25] cola

[2:25:27] in this for the district

[2:25:28] we're

[2:25:29] in, a cost of living

[2:25:30] increase,

[2:25:32] I think that -- if that was

[2:25:33] the case, there would

[2:25:34] probably

[2:25:35] be no reason we would have to

[2:25:36] come back and see you guys, I

[2:25:40] think it's fair based on a

[2:25:42] market value of what's going

[2:25:43] on and the county we live in.

[2:25:44] If we could do something like

[2:25:44] that, I think it will save

[2:25:45] you

[2:25:48] guys 20 minutes of your time

[2:25:50] fiver years from now we come

[2:25:51] crying, I don't know if

[2:25:51] that's

[2:25:52] a possibility.

[2:25:53] >> any other questions for

[2:25:54] the

[2:25:55] operators?

[2:25:55] >> captain plank?

[2:25:58] >> so, when we have a problem

[2:26:00] on the street and we have

[2:26:02] three operator, we rotate but

[2:26:03] maybe somebody's not

[2:26:03] available

[2:26:04] so you bounce it to somebody

[2:26:06] else o how does that work?

[2:26:10] >> exactly, it's rotation

[2:26:10] one,

[2:26:15] two, three, you should --

[2:26:16] >> you should start with

[2:26:17] courtesy.

[2:26:19] >> yeah, if we get to action

[2:26:21] tow and they're unavailable

[2:26:21] or

[2:26:22] don't have the equipment

[2:26:23] available to do it, we'll

[2:26:25] bounce back to the next one

[2:26:27] and then put them at the top

[2:26:30] for the next rotation to keep

[2:26:31] it balanced.

[2:26:36] >> okay.

[2:26:38] I'm interested, captain

[2:26:38] plank,

[2:26:41] on the police side of it, if

[2:26:42] somebody comes home late

[2:26:45] friday night and they park,

[2:26:47] maybe they're blocking a

[2:26:48] driveway maybe b a little

[2:26:49] bit,

[2:26:50] what kind of efforts do we

[2:26:52] make to not make it an

[2:26:53] automatic tow?

[2:26:56] >> that's a great question.

[2:26:57] Our intention and desire is

[2:26:59] not to tow the vehicle, it

[2:27:02] takes an officer out of s

[2:27:03] frs

[2:27:05] from anywhere from 25-45

[2:27:06] minutes deal witching the

[2:27:08] paperwork and hooking it up.

[2:27:11] We have access to the license

[2:27:13] plate shows where that car is

[2:27:14] registered to, we make every

[2:27:14] attempt --

[2:27:16] >> woe would knock on a door

[2:27:17] if we could?

[2:27:19] >> we would, we would check

[2:27:23] our database if we hve a

[2:27:25] recent phone nmber, we wuld

[2:27:27] try to contact tem in

[2:27:29] multiple different avenues

[2:27:29] until we've exhausted

[2:27:32] everything and then we

[2:27:33] ultimately would have to tow

[2:27:34] the car.

[2:27:36] It has to meet a criteria for

[2:27:38] blocking that driveway too,

[2:27:39] so

[2:27:40] we'll evaluate, if it's

[2:27:42] partially blocking the

[2:27:43] driveway but the person can

[2:27:45] still get out, we're likely

[2:27:48] not going to tow that vehicle.

[2:27:49] >> is that a different fine

[2:27:51] for somebody, is there a fine

[2:27:54] for that for a motorist that

[2:27:55] partially blocks a driveway.

[2:27:57] >> you can receive a ticket

[2:28:00] for blocking a driveway and

[2:28:03] that's a citation.

[2:28:05] The -- if the person, I mean,

[2:28:06] I just imagine after this

[2:28:07] meeting, if I were to go home

[2:28:09] and there was a car blocking

[2:28:11] my driveway and nobody could

[2:28:13] get a hold of it, my desire

[2:28:14] would be for it to be towed

[2:28:17] because I want to go home and

[2:28:20] do my evening stuff and go to

[2:28:21] work tomorrow so that would

[2:28:21] be

[2:28:23] my expectation.

[2:28:25] >> I'm glad we make the front

[2:28:26] end effort.

[2:28:27] >> excellent point.

[2:28:29] Go ahead.

[2:28:32] >> so, the 225 is the 2016

[2:28:35] amount and if we follow the

[2:28:38] average inflation rate of

[2:28:38] 3.26

[2:28:41] per year, that will be $300,

[2:28:43] now, to address what you were

[2:28:44] asking for, that if you can

[2:28:45] do

[2:28:46] it every year, I think that

[2:28:49] will be for the next round,

[2:28:51] right, and it depends also on

[2:28:53] how your bandwidth to work

[2:28:55] with them if that's what they

[2:28:57] wanted to have an annual

[2:28:58] inflationary cst.

[2:29:01] But for now, we're just

[2:29:02] talking about the suggestion

[2:29:05] to increase it from 225 to

[2:29:05] 325

[2:29:08] which is already higher than

[2:29:11] if you compute for the annual

[2:29:14] inflationary rate from 2016

[2:29:14] to

[2:29:17] 2025, it should just be about

[2:29:18] to $300.

[2:29:20] >> we're okay with the 325 at

[2:29:21] the moment.

[2:29:23] >> that's what we're tlking

[2:29:23] about.

[2:29:26] I'm just telling you that

[2:29:27] it's

[2:29:29] $25 more than --

[2:29:31] >> in addition.

[2:29:45] >> [Inaudible].

[2:29:45] >> thank you.

[2:29:50] >> I did do the math, it

[2:29:51] compounded as 28.8%, comes

[2:29:52] out

[2:29:53] to around $300.

[2:29:55] >> captain plank, it says on

[2:29:56] attachment a, if you believe

[2:29:58] you have been unfairly

[2:30:00] channeled, please contact

[2:30:01] south city pd traffic

[2:30:03] division, how many of those

[2:30:04] have you been contacted in

[2:30:05] what manner, I want to know

[2:30:07] about performance and

[2:30:08] accountability too about this.

[2:30:12] >> I'm not aware of any

[2:30:12] formal

[2:30:13] complaints where someone had

[2:30:19] called and said I'm being

[2:30:22] overcharged or the most that

[2:30:25] we would receive is if

[2:30:25] someone

[2:30:27] indicated that maybe there

[2:30:28] was

[2:30:31] a minor scratch or blemish on

[2:30:33] a bumper might claim that

[2:30:35] wasn't there prior to and

[2:30:35] they

[2:30:36] say it was as a result of a

[2:30:40] tow but there's no price

[2:30:41] gouging or delaying so

[2:30:42] there's

[2:30:44] an extra daily storage fee or

[2:30:45] pushing it until after hours

[2:30:47] so then there's an after

[2:30:48] hours

[2:30:49] fee added to it, I'm not

[2:30:50] aware

[2:30:52] of any of those taking place.

[2:30:53] >> toy

[2:30:55] f tows are considered

[2:30:57] vehicle impounds as part of

[2:30:59] what you do or how are those

[2:31:00] classified sm

[2:31:02] >> so, a vehicle impound

[2:31:02] would

[2:31:04] be if someone has a

[2:31:08] restriction on their driver's

[2:31:09] license, sspended, has proof

[2:31:11] of service, is aware they

[2:31:12] shouldn't be driving and

[2:31:14] continues to drive, so, and

[2:31:16] continue tos drive a car

[2:31:21] that's registered to them.

[2:31:23] So, that would be a 30 day

[2:31:23] impound.

[2:31:24] >> okay.

[2:31:24] >> another impocketbacker

[2:31:26] pound would be if someone has

[2:31:28] multiple prior convictions

[2:31:29] for

[2:31:30] driving under the influence

[2:31:31] and there was restrictions

[2:31:32] that said they're not allowed

[2:31:34] to drive or else that would

[2:31:34] be

[2:31:35] an impound.

[2:31:37] The majority of the other

[2:31:38] tows

[2:31:39] we do are storage.

[2:31:40] >> got it.

[2:31:43] >> it doesn't have a set time

[2:31:45] period that it needs to be

[2:31:50] held at the tow yard if the

[2:31:52] owner responds within 30

[2:31:53] minutes from it being towed,

[2:31:55] they can access the car and

[2:31:58] get it out, the impound would

[2:32:00] be a specific situation.

[2:32:02] >> so, that includes dui

[2:32:04] vehicles that are picked up

[2:32:06] during ceck points?

[2:32:08] >> no, it wouldn't.

[2:32:10] That charge, I'm sorry, that

[2:32:11] authority to tow that car

[2:32:13] would be a storage, it would

[2:32:15] be the driver's arrested and

[2:32:17] we aren't able to lever it at

[2:32:19] its current location, we do

[2:32:21] leave the vehicles at their

[2:32:23] resting point if they're

[2:32:25] legally parked, if they're on

[2:32:26] their street, we don't take

[2:32:27] them automatically.

[2:32:31] If it's parked in a tow away

[2:32:33] zone and if we leave it

[2:32:33] there,

[2:32:35] it will be towed later on

[2:32:35] that

[2:32:37] night or if it's parked in a

[2:32:37] a

[2:32:42] road zone or in unsafe area

[2:32:42] or

[2:32:43] an area that's prone to have

[2:32:45] higher vehicle burglaries or

[2:32:47] crime, our community care

[2:32:48] taking authority is to remove

[2:32:49] the vehicle and have it

[2:32:50] stored

[2:32:51] safely until the person can

[2:32:52] get it out.

[2:32:54] So, not all arrests result in

[2:32:55] a tow as well.

[2:32:57] >> understood, thank you for

[2:33:00] that clarification.

[2:33:01] >> I don't mean to belabor

[2:33:02] this, I think there is an

[2:33:05] argument to be made an an

[2:33:06] annual adjustment, maybe a

[2:33:07] cpi

[2:33:09] and we have something

[2:33:09] similar,

[2:33:14] I think every three years we

[2:33:15] look at our scavenger rates

[2:33:17] and we adjust to a percentage

[2:33:19] of the cpi, and if we did

[2:33:21] that, even though it wasn't

[2:33:24] reaching the full expense, it

[2:33:27] would allow us to go a number

[2:33:32] of years, at in time, the

[2:33:35] operators can come and ask

[2:33:36] for

[2:33:36] an increase if things felt

[2:33:37] like they did now, so I think

[2:33:38] we should can consider a

[2:33:39] little quution the cpi, maybe

[2:33:41] a percentage of the annual.

[2:33:43] >> great.

[2:33:44] >> I'm supportive of that

[2:33:47] >> I want to hear from

[2:33:48] everyone.

[2:33:49] >> I'm fine with that.

[2:33:51] >> okay.

[2:33:55] >> do we do 60% on our

[2:33:56] scavenger utility bill?

[2:33:58] >> I did just look at tat

[2:33:58] and

[2:34:00] I would have to get back to

[2:34:00] you.

[2:34:01] That does sound correct.

[2:34:02] >> okay.

[2:34:03] >> councilmember?

[2:34:07] >> so, tonight I was very

[2:34:09] much prepared to vote no but

[2:34:10] I

[2:34:11] think based on sergeant

[2:34:12] plank,

[2:34:13] I'm a lot more comfortable

[2:34:15] voting on this item, the

[2:34:16] reason is I have experienced

[2:34:17] being tow and had I have

[2:34:21] others who have experienced

[2:34:22] being towed in san francisco,

[2:34:23] in san francisco, they're

[2:34:24] looking for every reason to

[2:34:27] tow a vehicle and it's

[2:34:27] disgusting and predatory,

[2:34:28] here

[2:34:29] it looks like we're trying to

[2:34:30] do everything but tow a

[2:34:34] vehicle, only in the most

[2:34:35] extreme circumstances which I

[2:34:37] appreciate and I believe that

[2:34:39] having a cpi adjustment

[2:34:41] annually would make a lot of

[2:34:42] sense, that way we don't have

[2:34:44] to bring it back again.

[2:34:47] >> sure, like brian had said,

[2:34:48] some cities, I don't know

[2:34:50] around here, I do know of

[2:34:51] some

[2:34:52] cities to do that, it's a

[2:34:53] much

[2:34:54] shorter presentation and much

[2:34:55] more of an update, this is

[2:34:57] what the new number is and,

[2:34:59] yeah, I can look into that

[2:34:59] for

[2:34:59] sure.

[2:35:00] >> thank you, captain.

[2:35:03] do we have any public

[2:35:04] comments?

[2:35:05] >> no public comments, mayor.

[2:35:06] >> thank you.

[2:35:09] If not, I am looking for a

[2:35:09] motion.

[2:35:10] >> so moved.

[2:35:11] Er

[2:35:12] >> I'm sorry, mayor, just to

[2:35:13] clarify waoe, doipg a motion

[2:35:15] for the resolution with an

[2:35:18] amendment to the item or --

[2:35:20] >> everyone agrees to the

[2:35:21] amendment, right, so yes.

[2:35:24] >> eel -- I'll look to the

[2:35:24] motion maker?

[2:35:27] >> to the amendment?

[2:35:30] If we really would like to go

[2:35:31] for the 3.26 average

[2:35:32] inflation, the amount of

[2:35:33] money

[2:35:35] from 2016 to 2025 is $300,

[2:35:36] but

[2:35:38] I'll just let it go and next

[2:35:39] time maybe you will come to

[2:35:40] us

[2:35:43] and ask for a different one.

[2:35:45] >> so you're making the

[2:35:45] motion

[2:35:47] just to adopt the proposed

[2:35:50] fees with no automatic

[2:35:50] inflationary adjustment?

[2:35:52] >> and I'll second it but on

[2:35:54] that question, we can come

[2:35:56] back at any time and include

[2:35:56] a

[2:35:58] cpi, a percentage of cpi?

[2:35:59] >> yes.

[2:36:00] >> so for tonight we're

[2:36:01] talking about what staff

[2:36:02] presented?

[2:36:03] >> correct.

[2:36:04] >> okay, clarified, thank

[2:36:05] you,

[2:36:05] all.

[2:36:07] >> perfect, I have a first

[2:36:08] from councilmember nicolas a

[2:36:09] second from vice mayor

[2:36:10] addiego.

[2:36:10] Er

[2:36:11] >> roll call.

[2:36:12] >> MAY xwrorbacker yo

[2:36:12] r mrez

[2:36:13] rez?

[2:36:14] >> yes.

[2:36:15] >> nicolas?Frjts aye.

[2:36:15] >> addiego?

[2:36:16] >> yes.

[2:36:17] >> coleman?

[2:36:18] >> yes.

[2:36:18] >> nagales?

[2:36:19] >> yes.

[2:36:21] >> motion passes, thank you,

[2:36:22] captain plank, thank you,

[2:36:23] everyone, thank you,

[2:36:24] gentlemen.

[2:36:26] >> moving on to item number

[2:36:26] 12

[2:36:28] is a report regarding an

[2:36:32] ordinance amending title 6,

[2:36:35] chapter 6.46 of the south san

[2:36:37] francisco municipal code to

[2:36:39] adopt by reference title 4,

[2:36:41] chapter 4.98 of the san mateo

[2:36:42] county ordinance code and

[2:36:45] repealing in its entirety

[2:36:48] title 6, chapter 6.47, sales

[2:36:50] of flavored tobacco products,

[2:36:52] pharmacy sales of tobacco

[2:36:54] products and sales of

[2:36:56] electronic smoking devices

[2:36:56] prohibited.

[2:36:58] Item 12a is the ordinance.

[2:37:00] >> so you're really going to

[2:37:02] kick it off the park here,

[2:37:02] MS.

[2:37:04] Fernandez as your last

[2:37:04] presentation.

[2:37:05] >> this is my parting gift to

[2:37:08] all of you.

[2:37:10] Good evening, councilmembers,

[2:37:11] christina fernandez, your

[2:37:12] deputy city manager, I'm here

[2:37:14] tonight to provide an update

[2:37:17] and seek your approval for

[2:37:18] our

[2:37:19] flavored tobacco regulations

[2:37:20] such that they cmply with

[2:37:23] recent changes to state law.

[2:37:26] With me tonight, I have our

[2:37:29] team, lieutenant sair wyatt,

[2:37:32] shawn occur, from the

[2:37:35] tobacco's county education

[2:37:37] team, myra daoe yez ramirez

[2:37:41] and director of public works,

[2:37:42] bob, so I want to thank them

[2:37:44] for their efforts during this

[2:37:45] process.

[2:37:46] So again we're seking

[2:37:49] council's approval to amend

[2:37:49] the tobacco retailer permit

[2:37:51] and adopt the county's

[2:37:52] ordinance by reference.

[2:37:55] I'm also going to update you

[2:37:57] on our retailer outreach and

[2:37:58] education efforts and then

[2:38:00] provide you with next steps

[2:38:01] on

[2:38:03] tobacco education and

[2:38:03] engagement efforts.

[2:38:05] So, one of the primary

[2:38:05] reasons

[2:38:07] for the city's efforts around

[2:38:09] tobacco is due to the rise of

[2:38:13] vaping by mouther, there's 15

[2:38:15] thousand flavors online, 93%

[2:38:17] of youth who started vaping

[2:38:21] start witched a flavored

[2:38:22] product, 96% of high school

[2:38:23] students who vape use flavor

[2:38:27] and is 9% of san mateo

[2:38:29] high-schoolers vape.

[2:38:29] Vaping requires nicotine salt

[2:38:31] which is highly concentrated

[2:38:33] and bad for developing

[2:38:33] brains,

[2:38:36] it can cause anxiety and many

[2:38:39] other detrimental health

[2:38:40] effects.

[2:38:42] So just a little background

[2:38:42] on

[2:38:45] past actions, back in 2008,

[2:38:48] the city adopted the county's

[2:38:49] tobacco retailer permit

[2:38:51] ordinance by reference and

[2:38:53] that essentially said that we

[2:38:55] were requiring all tobacco

[2:38:58] retailers to maintain a valid

[2:39:00] tobacco retailer permit and

[2:39:02] that we would have the

[2:39:03] county's environmental health

[2:39:05] division enforce those

[2:39:05] permits.

[2:39:08] In 2012, we then passed an

[2:39:10] ordinance prohibiting new

[2:39:12] significant tobacco retailers

[2:39:14] and a significant retailer

[2:39:14] has

[2:39:17] 20% or more of their floor

[2:39:19] area space and/or 50% or more

[2:39:21] of their completed sales

[2:39:23] transactions including

[2:39:24] tobacco

[2:39:27] products or paraphernalia,

[2:39:30] back in no. 2019 when I came

[2:39:30] on board, there was an

[2:39:33] interest on behalf of council

[2:39:36] to pursue a flavored tobacco

[2:39:37] banser we pursued that, it

[2:39:40] bans the sale of flavored

[2:39:42] tobacco in all businesses

[2:39:43] except for all adult retail

[2:39:45] and he iser they only allow

[2:39:45] 21

[2:39:47] and over on their premises

[2:39:47] and

[2:39:49] that was effect tier JANUARY

[2:39:52] 1, 2020.

[2:39:54] So, there have been some

[2:39:56] recent changes to state law

[2:39:58] which would necessitate these

[2:40:01] updates to our ordinance.

[2:40:04] In 2022, voters upheld senate

[2:40:07] bill 793 which prohibited e

[2:40:09] cigarette and is apes and

[2:40:13] other tobacco items listed on

[2:40:16] the screen, methane

[2:40:18] cigarettes, flavored blunt

[2:40:20] wraps, loose leaf roll your

[2:40:22] own tobacco, rolling papers,

[2:40:25] flavored, and tobacco product

[2:40:27] flavor enhances, it did

[2:40:28] exempt

[2:40:29] flavored premium sig gars

[2:40:30] with

[2:40:31] the wolesale price of $12 or

[2:40:34] more and it also exempted

[2:40:37] flavored loose leaf, pipe

[2:40:40] tobacco and flavored sheik ka

[2:40:42] hookah tobacco which MAY only

[2:40:46] be sold in adult only

[2:40:49] retailers.

[2:40:53] Another couple recent bill,

[2:40:56] ab3218 and sb1230, ab3218

[2:40:58] creates an unflavored tobacco

[2:41:01] list and that list is

[2:41:01] supposed

[2:41:03] to be released by the

[2:41:03] attorney

[2:41:05] general by the the end of the

[2:41:06] this year, products not on

[2:41:07] this list would be considered

[2:41:10] a flavored product.

[2:41:14] Sb1230 or the stop act

[2:41:15] complements 3218 such that it

[2:41:19] allows the state to seize

[2:41:20] flavored tobacco products not

[2:41:22] on that list and it imposes

[2:41:24] civil penalties on retailers

[2:41:28] and wholesalers.

[2:41:30] So, in 2023, the city receive

[2:41:33] add a let frer the county

[2:41:35] saying, listen, thankers for

[2:41:37] adopting the 2019 flavored

[2:41:39] tobacco ban because our

[2:41:40] ordinance was modeled on

[2:41:41] that,

[2:41:43] however, we did make

[2:41:43] exceptionbacker exemptions

[2:41:44] such that all the other

[2:41:45] cities

[2:41:48] throughout the county also

[2:41:49] made exemptions so there's a

[2:41:50] patch work of ordinances out

[2:41:51] there.

[2:41:54] In order to reduce logistical

[2:41:56] challenges with enforcing

[2:41:58] various city ordinances

[2:41:58] around

[2:42:00] tobacco, the county said

[2:42:00] we're

[2:42:03] going adopt a new tobacco

[2:42:04] retailer ordinance and have

[2:42:06] stronger enforcement, have

[2:42:06] retail restriction and is

[2:42:08] there will be proximity

[2:42:11] restrictions for new retail

[2:42:12] businesses and they really

[2:42:13] encouraged cities to adopt

[2:42:15] this so there's a more

[2:42:17] streamlined approach to

[2:42:17] enforcement and

[2:42:18] administration

[2:42:21] of the retailer program.

[2:42:25] So, the new county tobacco

[2:42:26] ordinance requirements, it

[2:42:28] does clean up some of the

[2:42:30] language such tat it aligns

[2:42:32] with sate law, so tobacco

[2:42:34] prugt is then defined to

[2:42:35] include synthetic nicotine

[2:42:37] which in the past it did not

[2:42:39] and it also expands the

[2:42:40] definition of electronic

[2:42:42] smoking device to include

[2:42:45] non-nicotine products.

[2:42:47] It also has issues around

[2:42:48] proximity of where new

[2:42:50] retailers could be located

[2:42:53] such that it prohibits new

[2:42:55] tobacco permit for any

[2:42:56] location within a thousand

[2:42:58] feet of the youth populated

[2:43:02] area that could include

[2:43:05] schools, public rec centers,

[2:43:07] libraries, child care

[2:43:08] facilities, preschools, those

[2:43:10] are all considered youth

[2:43:11] populated areas.

[2:43:13] It also prohibits the issue

[2:43:13] of

[2:43:16] new permits with locations

[2:43:22] within 500 feet within an

[2:43:23] existing tobacco retailer,

[2:43:24] posting of retailers unless

[2:43:26] they have a permit and it

[2:43:27] updates such that it

[2:43:29] streamlines with new state

[2:43:31] laws by increasing the age of

[2:43:35] 21 years to purchase tobacco

[2:43:36] products.

[2:43:37] So what does this mean for

[2:43:40] existing retailers?

[2:43:42] Upon discussions with county

[2:43:45] staff, we understand that if

[2:43:47] retailers meet one of these

[2:43:48] three requirements, they will

[2:43:49] be designated as a

[2:43:50] preexisting

[2:43:53] business and not subject to

[2:43:54] new proximity requirements.

[2:43:56] So, if a retailer previously

[2:43:59] held a a tobacco permit under

[2:44:01] the county's environmental

[2:44:02] health services, if they're

[2:44:03] register witched the state's

[2:44:05] department of tax and fee

[2:44:07] administration as a tobacco

[2:44:09] retailer or if they hold a

[2:44:10] south city business license

[2:44:12] and is listed aa tobacco

[2:44:14] retailer, then they would be

[2:44:15] considered a preexisting

[2:44:16] business and not have to get

[2:44:16] a

[2:44:19] new permit and be subject to

[2:44:21] the thousand feet and the 500

[2:44:26] feet requirements.

[2:44:28] So, the new county ordinance

[2:44:31] also mandates fines for any

[2:44:32] violations, it increases the

[2:44:34] fines up to $500 for the

[2:44:34] first

[2:44:36] violation and up a to

[2:44:36] a

[2:44:38] thousand for all subsequent

[2:44:39] violation, it requires permit

[2:44:40] suspension if a a business is

[2:44:43] found to have sold to someone

[2:44:45] under 21 and it requires

[2:44:47] on-site inspections by the

[2:44:48] county's environmental health

[2:44:49] services department at least

[2:44:52] twice a year.

[2:44:54] So, some retailer and

[2:44:55] community engagement, I

[2:44:55] really

[2:44:58] want to thank pd for their

[2:44:59] assistance here.

[2:45:00] We mailed out business

[2:45:01] letters

[2:45:03] to approximately 100

[2:45:04] businesses who we thought

[2:45:05] might be affected.

[2:45:09] We also did three information

[2:45:10] sessions, two in person and

[2:45:14] one virtual and we also did

[2:45:15] an

[2:45:16] online tobacco retailer

[2:45:18] survey, we targeted that with

[2:45:19] the ecd distribution list we

[2:45:22] have online and we also did

[2:45:23] some social media posts

[2:45:24] around

[2:45:25] the survey encouraging folks

[2:45:27] to take it.

[2:45:30] And we also did in person

[2:45:31] retailer visits such that we

[2:45:33] visited about half of the

[2:45:34] retailers that we have on

[2:45:35] file

[2:45:38] and we went and we spoke with

[2:45:40] businesses and informed them

[2:45:43] of the upcoming changes and

[2:45:44] let them know how this could

[2:45:46] potentially affect their

[2:45:47] business and answered any

[2:45:49] questions they MAY have,

[2:45:50] overall most of the

[2:45:50] businesses

[2:45:54] said we haven't sold flavored

[2:45:56] tobacco in four or five years.

[2:45:57] There were questions around

[2:45:59] sofm the other products such

[2:46:02] as like flavored cigars, I

[2:46:03] guess folks had questions

[2:46:04] about that.

[2:46:06] And so, yeah, overall, folks

[2:46:07] didn't seem to really have

[2:46:09] questions and they all seemed

[2:46:10] to indicate they were

[2:46:14] compliant with existing state

[2:46:14] law.

[2:46:17] So, for the next steps, you

[2:46:21] know, currently chapter 20 of

[2:46:23] our money code [Inaudible]

[2:46:26] Chapter 20 is referenced in

[2:46:27] chapter 6.47 which will be

[2:46:28] repealed if this is approved

[2:46:30] tonight, just to ensure

[2:46:32] consistency the throughout

[2:46:32] our

[2:46:35] municipal code, staff will be

[2:46:37] bringing chapter 4.20 to the

[2:46:38] planning tuition for their

[2:46:39] review and back the city

[2:46:40] council for their review and

[2:46:41] approval.

[2:46:42] That being said, separate and

[2:46:44] apart from that, I this

[2:46:45] ordinance is approved

[2:46:46] tonight,

[2:46:47] we would go for a second

[2:46:49] reading on APRIL 9 and this

[2:46:50] would then be effective 30

[2:46:52] days from that reading so

[2:46:52] we'd

[2:46:55] think about MAY 7.

[2:46:57] And so with that, the team

[2:46:58] and

[2:46:59] I are here, happy to answer

[2:47:01] any questions you MAY have.

[2:47:02] >> thank you, christina, I

[2:47:06] appreciate the presentation.

[2:47:09] Questions?

[2:47:11] >> I was going to say the

[2:47:12] presentation was so complete

[2:47:15] and prfect that I have no

[2:47:16] questions.

[2:47:17] Great finish.

[2:47:19] >> I have just one or two

[2:47:20] questions, I think it's

[2:47:21] appropriate the first thing

[2:47:23] that I passed with your help

[2:47:25] happens to be the last thing

[2:47:29] you're presenting here.

[2:47:30] At the time, we had a

[2:47:33] discussion back in 219 about

[2:47:35] the businesses that will be

[2:47:36] exempt.

[2:47:37] At the time, there were two,

[2:47:38] now there's one from my

[2:47:39] reading o the staff report,

[2:47:40] correct?

[2:47:40] >> that's correct.

[2:47:42] >> they would still be able

[2:47:42] to

[2:47:47] operate based upon the -- I

[2:47:49] guess the criteria,

[2:47:50] grandfathered in.

[2:47:51] Thefrjt would still be able

[2:47:51] to

[2:47:52] operate but anything that

[2:47:52] they

[2:47:54] had that MAY be flavored,

[2:47:58] there are some businesses

[2:47:58] that

[2:48:00] are maybe not compliant with

[2:48:01] our existing ordinance,

[2:48:01] right,

[2:48:03] so it's maybe time to kind of

[2:48:04] do some education and some

[2:48:06] outreach just to make sure

[2:48:08] they're above board with the

[2:48:09] current ordinance but I will

[2:48:11] say that that business would

[2:48:13] not hen be able to sell

[2:48:14] flavored tobacco, they can

[2:48:17] stay in business and sell

[2:48:18] unflavored tobacco but they

[2:48:19] could not sell flavored

[2:48:20] tobacco.

[2:48:22] >> that was kind of the

[2:48:22] conversation that the

[2:48:23] previous

[2:48:24] council had in terms of

[2:48:26] making

[2:48:27] sure that we are not damage

[2:48:29] thing or hurting their

[2:48:30] business in a sense because

[2:48:33] that was a big topic amongst

[2:48:33] us.

[2:48:36] And so I kind of wanted

[2:48:37] clarification on there's like

[2:48:39] signage sometimes I see that

[2:48:42] sells -- that says flavored

[2:48:42] tobacco being sold.

[2:48:45] Is that now being restricted

[2:48:50] in terms of advertisement?

[2:48:51] I'm trying to understand how

[2:48:51] that --

[2:48:52] >> yeah, so, as I understand

[2:48:54] the new county ordinance,

[2:48:57] unless you have a valid

[2:48:58] tobacco retailer permit, you

[2:49:00] would not be able to

[2:49:00] advertise

[2:49:02] tobacco products.

[2:49:04] >> so, if you had a valid

[2:49:07] license to sell flavored

[2:49:09] tobacco, you are able to have

[2:49:10] that signage?

[2:49:12] >> so, flavored tobacco is

[2:49:12] not

[2:49:15] going to be allowed to be

[2:49:15] sold

[2:49:17] anywhere, so I think that if

[2:49:20] they wanted to advertise like

[2:49:22] cigarettes, they could, and

[2:49:24] honestly if they want to

[2:49:26] advertise flavored tobacco,

[2:49:27] they probably could but I

[2:49:29] don't see if they would if

[2:49:31] they couldn't sell it but I

[2:49:33] guess technically they could.

[2:49:34] I don't know if you have

[2:49:36] comments on that.

[2:49:38] >> okay, I see those signage

[2:49:40] and I always felt like that

[2:49:41] should be restricted, okay.

[2:49:42] >> yeah.

[2:49:43] >> and then could we talk

[2:49:44] about the county

[2:49:46] implementation, so now we are

[2:49:49] going from our own pd in

[2:49:49] terms

[2:49:50] of education and enforcement

[2:49:59] now to the county.

[2:50:00] >> it's twofold t the city

[2:50:01] can

[2:50:02] still enforce, we are looking

[2:50:04] to to the county to do those

[2:50:06] site inspections twice a year

[2:50:08] and to enforce where

[2:50:10] appropriate but definitely I

[2:50:12] know pd will definitely have

[2:50:12] a

[2:50:14] hand in code enforcement and

[2:50:15] code enforcement will also

[2:50:17] have a hand in this th

[2:50:17] and

[2:50:19] once we adopt this, we're

[2:50:21] looking at pushing out

[2:50:22] education first.

[2:50:25] I know lieutenant sair dotty

[2:50:27] was successful in obtaining

[2:50:29] state department of jstice

[2:50:32] tobacco grant for money to do

[2:50:32] outreach and education.

[2:50:34] I don't know, lieutenant, if

[2:50:35] you want to make a comment

[2:50:36] here.

[2:50:38] >> please, come on up.

[2:50:40] >> good ever wantoning, yes,

[2:50:42] the department of justice

[2:50:44] tobacco grant we received,

[2:50:45] our

[2:50:49] primary goal is to provide

[2:50:51] education since the

[2:50:52] implementation of the grant,

[2:50:53] we have gone out to the

[2:50:54] businesses, provided

[2:50:54] pamphlets

[2:50:57] and information on our

[2:50:57] current

[2:50:59] muni code on tobacco

[2:51:00] products,

[2:51:02] checked t see that they were

[2:51:05] in guidelines with our muni

[2:51:08] code, so should we adopt the

[2:51:10] new muni code, we would go

[2:51:10] out

[2:51:13] and implement the new muni

[2:51:14] code, povide eucation, we

[2:51:16] would not be enforcing it at

[2:51:17] this time and just ensure

[2:51:18] that

[2:51:19] all the businesses understand

[2:51:22] that the muni code, so our

[2:51:25] primary action is education

[2:51:26] before enforcement.

[2:51:27] >> now I've seen the

[2:51:28] education

[2:51:30] process when we implemented

[2:51:30] this.

[2:51:32] I started seeing the flavored

[2:51:34] tobacco getting taken away

[2:51:36] like for like the wall fronds

[2:51:42] or the 7th [Hr-e/]-elevens

[2:51:42] where they were primarily

[2:51:43] being sold, I was seeing

[2:51:43] those

[2:51:44] taken out.

[2:51:46] The last question is the

[2:51:48] hookah tobacco, the ordinance

[2:51:50] says if that's still

[2:51:50] permitted

[2:51:55] if a business that's I guess

[2:51:58] allowed 21 -- 21 or older on

[2:51:59] the premise, if you're a

[2:52:02] business that has that, you

[2:52:05] can still continue as long as

[2:52:07] an adult -- I don't want to

[2:52:09] use your terminology in terms

[2:52:10] of 21 and ogler.

[2:52:11] >> we're adopt thing county's

[2:52:12] ordinance which is stricter

[2:52:14] than the state law such that

[2:52:16] hookah would not be allowed.

[2:52:17] >> okay.

[2:52:18] alright.

[2:52:19] That's all I have, thank you.

[2:52:23] >> great, thank you.

[2:52:25] >> so, I do have a question,

[2:52:27] well, I I do sup or the the

[2:52:29] ordinance but my question is

[2:52:31] flavored tobacco has been

[2:52:33] banned if for sometime now

[2:52:35] statewide and yt when I go

[2:52:38] out, there I see flavored

[2:52:39] tobacco everywhere.

[2:52:43] And so my question is, is it

[2:52:45] an isue of enforcement, how

[2:52:50] come it's still so pervasive

[2:52:51] outside?

[2:52:56] >> yeah, I mean, I don't know

[2:52:56] ,

[2:52:59] I mean I would say that maybe

[2:53:01] it's enforcement, you know,

[2:53:02] maybe it's, yeah, wi eel pull

[2:53:07] it off the shelf and then a a

[2:53:09] month a a so and put it back

[2:53:10] up, that kind of thing, but I

[2:53:10] can't really speak to why

[2:53:12] it's

[2:53:12] pervasive.

[2:53:14] I would assume it is probably

[2:53:15] just enforcement and just

[2:53:18] being consistent in

[2:53:19] enforcement

[2:53:20] .

[2:53:22] >> and once we provide the

[2:53:24] education to the retailers,

[2:53:24] we

[2:53:26] can also do more town halls

[2:53:27] and invite retailers to

[2:53:29] educate them on the new muni

[2:53:31] code and the laws.

[2:53:33] We would provide a time for

[2:53:35] them to understand it, make

[2:53:35] sure everyone is in

[2:53:36] accordance

[2:53:41] with it and then we can do

[2:53:41] impact inspections similar to

[2:53:43] what we do with our abc grant

[2:53:45] where we go out, we make sure

[2:53:46] they're following all of the

[2:53:48] laws that they have to do

[2:53:49] with

[2:53:51] their license with abc, so we

[2:53:52] could d inspections at these

[2:53:53] retailers to make sure

[2:53:54] they're

[2:53:56] following the guidelines for

[2:53:57] the tobacco products, so that

[2:53:59] is an option we would be able

[2:54:01] to have with that.

[2:54:02] >> sure, thank you.

[2:54:04] >> what's the timeline that

[2:54:07] you allow tem to -- while

[2:54:07] the

[2:54:09] law implements that phase-in,

[2:54:10] what -- is it varying or do

[2:54:12] you work with each one, what

[2:54:14] does it look like?

[2:54:17] >> obviously we don't want to

[2:54:18] go --

[2:54:19] >> tat's exactly what I'm

[2:54:20] going to.

[2:54:22] >> education has always been

[2:54:27] at the forefront of all of

[2:54:27] our

[2:54:29] grants, with abc as well, so

[2:54:30] we -- the easiest way is to

[2:54:33] kind of explain our abc

[2:54:33] grant,

[2:54:35] for instance we do these

[2:54:35] impact inspections and we

[2:54:36] will

[2:54:39] go out to or retailers, our

[2:54:41] licensees two or three time

[2:54:44] sos the first time we'll go

[2:54:46] over, make sure they're

[2:54:48] following all of the

[2:54:49] regulations for their

[2:54:50] license,

[2:54:51] make sure if they need to

[2:54:53] update anything websinger ear

[2:54:54] write things down, give them

[2:54:56] some pamphlet and is go out

[2:54:57] maybe a month later, check,

[2:54:59] hey, did you fix these things

[2:55:00] we talked about, if they

[2:55:01] still

[2:55:02] need to make some

[2:55:03] corrections,

[2:55:04] we'll write them town and

[2:55:04] then

[2:55:06] come out maybe a couple of

[2:55:07] months later and then if

[2:55:09] they're still not doing it,

[2:55:12] maybe we'll start giving a

[2:55:16] citation or we'll contact abc

[2:55:17] to come out and do it that

[2:55:18] way

[2:55:20] so we'll give them plenty of

[2:55:22] opportunities to correct the

[2:55:24] behavior because they are

[2:55:25] businesses in our city so we

[2:55:27] do want to work with them.

[2:55:27] >> okay.

[2:55:29] Thank you.

[2:55:31] Anyone else, questions?

[2:55:34] I just wanted to know,

[2:55:36] christina, you sent letters

[2:55:38] for this community meeting to

[2:55:39] 100 businesses, how many of

[2:55:41] those were tobacco retailers

[2:55:42] approximately?

[2:55:44] >> well, we only have -- so,

[2:55:47] on the book, we have about 45

[2:55:49] tobacco retailers so we sent

[2:55:52] it to the 45 but tlen to

[2:55:54] anyone else who MAY be sort

[2:55:55] of

[2:55:55] associated with it.

[2:55:58] >> but I wanted to highlight

[2:56:00] that no tobacco retailers

[2:56:01] attended any of the three

[2:56:01] meetings.

[2:56:03] >> we had cmmunity members

[2:56:05] come and speak about tobacco

[2:56:08] and how they weren't fans of

[2:56:10] tobacco but we did not have

[2:56:11] any retailers, we had a

[2:56:12] little

[2:56:13] more luck with the surveys

[2:56:14] but

[2:56:15] the surveys indicate that

[2:56:15] most

[2:56:18] folks are compliant with the

[2:56:19] lasers already.

[2:56:20] >> alright.

[2:56:22] Any other questions or

[2:56:22] comments?

[2:56:24] If not, do we have public

[2:56:25] comments?

[2:56:26] >> we do not, mayor.

[2:56:27] >> alright.

[2:56:30] >> before you make -- ask for

[2:56:32] a motion, just one procedural

[2:56:34] point, state law is a little

[2:56:36] bit different when adopting

[2:56:37] the code of another agency by

[2:56:40] reference which is what we're

[2:56:41] doing tonight, you'll still

[2:56:42] introduce it.

[2:56:43] When it comes back, the

[2:56:45] ordinance will not be on

[2:56:46] consent for the second

[2:56:47] reading

[2:56:48] we're required to hold a

[2:56:51] public hearing, so you'll

[2:56:52] still -- there will still be

[2:56:53] two meetings for the

[2:56:54] adoption,

[2:56:55] rather than it appearing on

[2:56:56] consent, it will be a public

[2:56:58] hearing at the second reading.

[2:56:59] >> thank you for that

[2:57:00] clarification.

[2:57:02] With that, do I have a motion?

[2:57:03] >> so moved, MR. Mayor.

[2:57:04] >> I'll second.

[2:57:05] >> I have a first and a

[2:57:06] second, can I have a roll

[2:57:07] call?

[2:57:09] >> vice mayor addiego,

[2:57:10] councilmember nagales?

[2:57:12] >> yes.

[2:57:12] >> mayor flores?

[2:57:14] >> yes.

[2:57:15] >> councilmember nicolas?

[2:57:18] >> yes.

[2:57:20] >> councilmember [Inaudible]

[2:57:21] >> aye.

[2:57:22] >> thank you, I appreciate

[2:57:22] everyone staying.

[2:57:23] Er

[2:57:26] >> moving on to items from

[2:57:28] council, committee reports

[2:57:29] and

[2:57:30] announcements, item 13 is

[2:57:31] consider sending letters of

[2:57:33] support for various

[2:57:35] legislative items.

[2:57:36] >> alright.

[2:57:37] Sharon?

[2:57:39] >> sure, I would be happy to

[2:57:40] speak to this.

[2:57:44] we've provided you with fiver

[2:57:46] -- five letters of support,

[2:57:50] there were deadlines we need

[2:57:52] today meet, a couple of these

[2:57:53] letters have been spent.

[2:57:53] Our practice has been to copy

[2:57:56] council or seek your support,

[2:57:57] so I've got five of them

[2:57:58] here,

[2:58:02] the frst one is regarding

[2:58:05] congressionally directed

[2:58:09] spending for samtrans and

[2:58:09] this

[2:58:11] is to different legislators,

[2:58:14] then we have one here for --

[2:58:15] three different legislators

[2:58:17] on

[2:58:20] that one, oneshorline

[2:58:23] resilience plan support as

[2:58:29] well as licensing exemption

[2:58:32] and one for weta, and I would

[2:58:35] just add, I'm very supportive

[2:58:36] of doing these letters in

[2:58:37] that

[2:58:39] we often ask these agencies

[2:58:39] to

[2:58:41] write up support letters when

[2:58:43] we're submitting a grant so

[2:58:44] it's reciprocal that we

[2:58:45] support other agencies when

[2:58:47] they're seeking funding so we

[2:58:48] want to mke sure council is

[2:58:50] aware of these letters and

[2:58:52] doesn't have any issues with

[2:58:54] us issuing these?

[2:58:56] >> any comments on these?

[2:58:58] >> for these letters?

[2:58:58] Okay.

[2:59:01] I did want to note there are

[2:59:03] other current bills going

[2:59:04] through committee, initial

[2:59:05] committee in the state

[2:59:06] legislature.

[2:59:11] One of them is assembly bill

[2:59:18] 6530 -- 650 from dianne

[2:59:18] papin

[2:59:19] in relation to the housing

[2:59:22] element, I don't know if if

[2:59:23] staff is willing to share on

[2:59:25] that so we can give direction

[2:59:26] for support.

[2:59:30] Nell, you're in the back.

[2:59:31] >> MR. Mayor, are you asking

[2:59:32] for support for that bill

[2:59:32] right now?

[2:59:33] .

[2:59:36] Inger correct, yes.

[2:59:37] >> christina's probably

[2:59:37] better

[2:59:41] suited to answer this.

[2:59:42] >> I apologize, bring her

[2:59:43] back.

[2:59:45] >> it's a spot bill and so we

[2:59:46] don't have legislate iever

[2:59:50] language yet to respond to or

[2:59:51] support.

[2:59:52] We went in a little bit of a

[2:59:53] circle here because we could

[2:59:55] not find the legislation, I

[2:59:57] guess this is why, when it

[2:59:58] appears, we can bring it your

[3:00:00] way.

[3:00:02] >> yeah, so, to be able to

[3:00:05] support at the level of

[3:00:07] providing additional runway,

[3:00:08] additional space for cities

[3:00:08] to

[3:00:10] be able to be compliant and

[3:00:12] be

[3:00:13] able to provide compliance

[3:00:15] with the housing element

[3:00:18] should they not be able to at

[3:00:19] that level too.

[3:00:21] In addition, since it is

[3:00:23] agendized as a letter of

[3:00:24] support, colleagues, some of

[3:00:27] you might be hearing or

[3:00:27] seeing

[3:00:30] our second state senator

[3:00:31] scott

[3:00:35] wiener is supporting a

[3:00:35] regional transportation

[3:00:37] measure that potentially

[3:00:37] could

[3:00:38] support and bring in support

[3:00:42] for san mateo county to

[3:00:44] support caltrain as well as

[3:00:45] to

[3:00:47] support bart.

[3:00:50] at this level, I wouldn't be

[3:00:53] able to, sky, bring in

[3:00:53] support

[3:00:55] because one of our

[3:00:55] councilmembers is connected

[3:00:56] to

[3:00:57] that, is that correct, if I

[3:00:57] wanted to --

[3:00:59] >> he would just rcuse

[3:01:00] himself.

[3:01:01] >> okay, well, we're looking

[3:01:03] for and when I was talking to

[3:01:05] the city manager, many of

[3:01:07] these agencies are looking to

[3:01:10] not be part of this regional

[3:01:11] transportation measure and

[3:01:12] only three counties instead

[3:01:13] of

[3:01:14] four counties, however, the

[3:01:18] bill has now been designed

[3:01:18] for

[3:01:20] counties or cities to be able

[3:01:22] to opt in.

[3:01:24] If san mateo county wants to

[3:01:26] opt in to b able to

[3:01:26] participate.

[3:01:28] I think as a city that

[3:01:29] heavily

[3:01:31] is supported by caltrain as

[3:01:33] well as -- or has the

[3:01:34] influence of caltrain and

[3:01:34] bart.

[3:01:36] This is important for us.

[3:01:38] This is a measure that

[3:01:40] potentially would be able to

[3:01:44] support a path to potentially

[3:01:46] relieve the debt that

[3:01:47] caltrain

[3:01:48] currently has and bart

[3:01:51] currently has.

[3:01:52] There's mixed opportunities

[3:01:52] right now.

[3:01:55] I think where we stand is I

[3:01:57] believe samtrans board will

[3:01:57] be

[3:01:59] taking a position of I, a

[3:02:01] position on this ballot

[3:02:04] measure or potential ballot

[3:02:05] measure, a senate bill right

[3:02:07] now next week and I wanted to

[3:02:09] see if there's interest so

[3:02:11] that our city manager could

[3:02:13] express not a position

[3:02:14] particular but just to say,

[3:02:19] hey, tink about thens --

[3:02:23] city ins north county, daly

[3:02:24] city, south san francisco

[3:02:24] that

[3:02:25] we have caltrain and bart, we

[3:02:27] have to be at the table, we

[3:02:28] can't completely be excluded

[3:02:30] aout of a potential funding

[3:02:32] mechanism that will support

[3:02:34] contra costa, al la immediate

[3:02:35] da and san francisco and not

[3:02:38] be at the table when these

[3:02:39] discussions are potentially

[3:02:41] funding support would come

[3:02:42] through.

[3:02:45] That is potentially what this

[3:02:45] regional transportation

[3:02:49] measure would look like right

[3:02:49] now.

[3:02:50] Any questions or any

[3:02:53] additions

[3:02:54] from my colleagues, jump in.

[3:02:57] >> so, I believe we have --

[3:02:58] there's no language for ab650

[3:03:01] that we should have a more in

[3:03:02] depth discussion on ab650

[3:03:05] because I know that it can go

[3:03:07] in various directions.

[3:03:09] For sb63, I think it's

[3:03:11] important we continue to

[3:03:13] collaborate with our regional

[3:03:16] partners for some sort of

[3:03:16] deal

[3:03:18] that makes sense for san

[3:03:18] mateo

[3:03:19] county but ensures we are

[3:03:20] getting funding and

[3:03:24] contributing to the funding

[3:03:26] that would save caltrain and

[3:03:29] bart from the fiscal cliff

[3:03:31] that they are facing because

[3:03:34] we are potentially going to

[3:03:38] see massive, massive cuts o

[3:03:43] the entire system of bart and

[3:03:47] I think it needs to be known

[3:03:49] that 43% of transit riders

[3:03:49] who

[3:03:51] start in san mateo county end

[3:03:56] up outside of san mateo

[3:03:56] county.

[3:03:57] That is a fakts.

[3:03:58] We can't just have -- and I

[3:04:00] know this is a great council

[3:04:04] and we understand this but

[3:04:05] with the county as an

[3:04:06] audience, we have to

[3:04:09] understand that public

[3:04:09] transit

[3:04:11] does not start and stop in

[3:04:11] san

[3:04:12] mateo, it is regional.

[3:04:16] We need to be part of the

[3:04:18] solution that saves public

[3:04:19] transit in the region but

[3:04:20] also

[3:04:21] ensures that it is the most

[3:04:23] seamless experience possible.

[3:04:27] There are some south in the

[3:04:30] county who believe that only

[3:04:31] caltrain is worth saving.

[3:04:33] There are twice as many

[3:04:33] riders

[3:04:35] on bart than there are

[3:04:37] caltrain in san mateo county.

[3:04:39] And there are many people who

[3:04:41] take caltrain and then

[3:04:41] connect

[3:04:43] to bart to get to their place

[3:04:47] of work or connect to other

[3:04:49] areas and so we need to

[3:04:52] strongly express that we want

[3:04:54] to continue san mateo

[3:04:55] county's

[3:04:56] collaboration in this transit

[3:04:56] measure.

[3:05:00] I think right now we are at a

[3:05:01] cross roads where we could be

[3:05:02] included or we could not be

[3:05:07] include -- included and the

[3:05:09] recent involvement that some

[3:05:11] of our county's leaders have

[3:05:14] had with mtc and with bart

[3:05:14] has

[3:05:15] been very antagonistic that

[3:05:17] has led us to where we are

[3:05:19] today and it's a shame but

[3:05:22] right now it is a time for

[3:05:22] leadership and collaboration

[3:05:24] and we have to work on a deal

[3:05:25] that makes sense that ensure

[3:05:27] that is our public transit

[3:05:28] agencies are well funded for

[3:05:31] the people of san mateo

[3:05:33] county.

[3:05:35] So I would support a more in

[3:05:36] depth discussion on that as

[3:05:36] well.

[3:05:37] Thank you.

[3:05:39] >> anyone else?

[3:05:43] >> I couldn't say it any

[3:05:44] better, councilmember coal

[3:05:45] hanh and I think that is

[3:05:47] classic south county versus

[3:05:48] north county, not an

[3:05:50] appreciation for what we're

[3:05:51] all about and what we bring

[3:05:52] to

[3:05:53] the table.

[3:05:59] >> so, I'm not impinging --

[3:06:00] jumping into this

[3:06:01] conversation, there was

[3:06:02] another bill that I was

[3:06:03] talking about and it has to

[3:06:04] do

[3:06:07] with public comment and it

[3:06:08] would basically require that

[3:06:10] for every city council

[3:06:10] meeting

[3:06:13] that you would have to allow

[3:06:15] for online participation and

[3:06:17] for that person to be allowed

[3:06:19] for public comment.

[3:06:23] Am I pretty much -- and we

[3:06:24] experienced wat happened and

[3:06:26] I had a conversation with

[3:06:29] nick

[3:06:33] nicolo, our lobbyist up in

[3:06:34] sacramento, and he was

[3:06:38] interested in what happened,

[3:06:39] I

[3:06:41] requested to the city manager

[3:06:42] to do a letter on what

[3:06:43] happened that night, there's

[3:06:45] an interest in doing this, I

[3:06:47] would like to see us doing

[3:06:49] that moving forward, not

[3:06:50] taking a position about it

[3:06:50] but

[3:06:51] explaining to the author,

[3:06:51] this

[3:06:53] is what we experienced when

[3:06:54] we

[3:06:55] allow for public comment

[3:06:56] happening on vao

[3:06:57] m where we

[3:06:58] really couldn't control it.

[3:07:00] >> thank you, councilmember,

[3:07:02] really important point and I

[3:07:03] appreciate you bringing that

[3:07:04] up as well.

[3:07:05] Just to separate, more just

[3:07:08] tracking and monitoring on

[3:07:10] ab650, I'm hearing support

[3:07:11] for

[3:07:12] the regional transit masure

[3:07:15] on that and then sending a

[3:07:16] letter to illustrate what

[3:07:18] occurred here and how that

[3:07:18] has

[3:07:20] affected south san francisco.

[3:07:21] MADAM City manager, do you

[3:07:22] have enough direction?

[3:07:23] >> I do, thank you.

[3:07:26] >> alright, thank you.

[3:07:27] Next agenda item, thank you,

[3:07:28] colleagues.

[3:07:30] >> moving on to closed

[3:07:31] session, item number 14 is a

[3:07:34] conference with legal

[3:07:34] counsel,

[3:07:35] anticipated litigation,

[3:07:36] initiation of litigation

[3:07:40] pursuant to government code

[3:07:41] section 54956.9d4, one

[3:07:43] potential case.

[3:07:45] Item 15 is conference with

[3:07:46] real property negotiators,

[3:07:49] pursuant to government code

[3:07:50] section 54956.8, properties,

[3:07:53] parcels on sign hill, south

[3:08:05] san francisco, apn numbers

[3:08:13] 012-351-020, 012-351-030,

[3:08:21] 012-024-060, 012-024-070,

[3:08:25] 012-04-080, 012-024-090,

[3:08:30] 012-024-100, 012-024-110 and

[3:08:31] 012-024-120.

[3:08:32] agency negotiators, nell

[3:08:33] selander, economic and

[3:08:35] community development

[3:08:36] director, greg mediati, parks

[3:08:38] and recreation director and

[3:08:40] sky woodruff, city attorney.

[3:08:42] Negotiating parties, syme

[3:08:43] venture partners lp, under

[3:08:45] negotiation, price and terms.

[3:08:46] >> thank you, everyone, have

[3:08:47] a

[3:08:48] good evening, we're adjourned

[3:08:49] to closed session.

[3:08:51] Thank you.

[3:08:52] (Meeting adjourned to closed

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