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[2:38] This regularly scheduled commission meeting

[2:40] of the city of St Pete Beach.

[2:42] It is Tuesday, January 23rd, 2024.

[2:45] It is 6 PM.

[2:48] Let's stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

[2:53] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

[2:57] and to the Republic for which it stands.

[3:00] One nation under god, indivisible,

[3:03] with liberty and justice for all.

[3:05]

[3:09] City clerk, if you will please do a roll call.

[3:12] Vice mayor Lorenzen here.

[3:14] Commissioner Marriott.

[3:15] Here Commissioner Phillips here.

[3:16] Commissioner Resnick.

[3:17] Here mayor Petrica here.

[3:19] We have a quorum.

[3:20] Thank you.

[3:22] All right.

[3:23] First we have a presentation of the employee

[3:25] of the first quarter.

[3:26]

[3:32] By Candace Galloway.

[3:34] Our administrator is going to make that presentation.

[3:38] Afternoon evening, everyone.

[3:42] We're here to talk for a minute about Ryan, who works in the IT

[3:45] department diligently, and he's been here for about two years

[3:49] now he came to us with many, many years of expertise

[3:55] under his belt in the municipality format

[3:57] and otherwise very strong in expertise in Microsoft voice

[4:02] platforms and all things technology

[4:04] that serve us here at the city.

[4:06] About seven months after he joined with the city,

[4:09] he became a team of one.

[4:10] So his boss left and Ryan became the sole supporter

[4:14] for the entire city.

[4:15] And that includes everything that plugs into a wall that

[4:18] has some technology component.

[4:20] He's on call.

[4:21] So hugely valuable to the city for us.

[4:25] He services over 100 tickets a month

[4:27] himself, running from location to location.

[4:30] Very busy guy with a lot to do.

[4:34] Some of you may have seen him or you may not,

[4:36] but he's the person that runs all of these meetings

[4:38] on our collective behalf.

[4:40] All the public meetings are managed and run by Ryan.

[4:43] So phenomenal resource for us over time and he's

[4:47] been a great resource as I've onboarded since last January.

[4:50] I came here and I was stopped regularly

[4:53] to be, you know, people commending Ryan's experience,

[4:58] his demeanor most often, his patience with their questions

[5:02] and what they need from him.

[5:04] Everyone has enjoyed working with him

[5:06] and everybody appreciates the attitude and work ethic

[5:09] that Ryan brings to the table.

[5:11] So he's actually been nominated for this award many times.

[5:14] So that should say something in and of itself that folks,

[5:17] you know, he is a consistent producer and performer

[5:20] for the city, but he's also just a solid asset

[5:23] from a day to day perspective.

[5:25] So as I mentioned, he's a strong expert in technology,

[5:30] but he's also a dedicated individual.

[5:33] He is consistent.

[5:34] He's very focused on his work and the customer outcomes

[5:38] and ensuring that he solves the problems that are at hand

[5:41] in a very quick fashion.

[5:43] If he can't figure it out immediately,

[5:44] he keeps cool under pressure and he

[5:46] goes back to his desk and sorts out a solution that may, may

[5:50] or may not work and comes back to solve the problem for you

[5:53] and pretty quick fashion.

[5:54] So, you know, from my perspective,

[5:56] I onboarded and he was very patient with me.

[5:59] There were a lot of things about municipality work

[6:01] that I had to get up to speed with,

[6:03] and he's been a huge asset for that from my perspective

[6:06] as well.

[6:06] So just a huge resource for us.

[6:09] Very happy to have him, glad that he's acknowledged

[6:11] in this capacity, big contribution for the city

[6:15] in an ongoing basis.

[6:16] So we're proud of him.

[6:18] Congratulations, Ryan, and we're just

[6:19] happy to have him on the team.

[6:20]

[6:30] And Ryan would come out if he wasn't stuck in a cubicle

[6:32] running this meeting.

[6:34]

[6:38] Thank you.

[6:40] All right.

[6:41] Do we have any amendments to the agenda, please?

[6:46] Yes, mayor, I have one.

[6:49] Um, I'd like to pull item five B. I have

[6:52] some additional questions that I need

[6:55] to meet with the company on that,

[6:58] so I'd like to pull that item for tonight.

[7:00] Bring it back at a later date.

[7:03] Thank you, mayor.

[7:05] Yes, I did receive one person that wanted to sign up.

[7:08] John, since it's being pulled, did you still want to provide

[7:13] comment or wait until.

[7:14] OK I just wanted to make sure you knew.

[7:16] OK Thank you, mayor.

[7:19] The only other thing I would mention

[7:20] is that we did get a request from the attorney for seven b,

[7:27] which is a quasi judicial hearing

[7:30] on a conditional use permit asking for a continuance.

[7:34] Brandon that's right.

[7:35] Right still correct?

[7:36] Yeah and I don't know if you want to take care of that

[7:38] up front in case people are here for that item,

[7:42] we would re notice it and schedule it

[7:46] for another meeting.

[7:47] We can move that to right after audience comments.

[7:50] OK, perfect.

[7:51] Thank you.

[7:52] So that's seven b?

[7:56] Yes, sir.

[7:57]

[8:04] Come here.

[8:04] Yes I also wanted to add an item for discussion

[8:09] about attendance for the commission.

[8:14] For me.

[8:15] Particular for time off day and meeting in Zoom.

[8:20] So just a discussion, I would like to add.

[8:21]

[8:32] So the attorney that we're going to have a discussion

[8:35] about a date for the next.

[8:38] Yes, we can put it as a discussion item

[8:40] or I was going to bring it up during my report,

[8:44] but we can make it a discussion item.

[8:45] So I guess that would be C like eight C the executive session.

[8:50]

[9:01] Thank you.

[9:02] Any other amendments?

[9:04] Mayor, I'd like to add a discussion item,

[9:07] possible action item regarding accommodations

[9:10] for the special city commission meeting on February 21.

[9:15] I've received some concerns from residents

[9:18] about having enough space and alternative options

[9:21] potentially.

[9:23] OK all right.

[9:34] And the other amendments.

[9:37] Do we have a motion to approve the agenda as amended?

[9:42] I move to approve the agenda as amended.

[9:45] I second.

[9:46] City clerk do you feel pleased to a roll call?

[9:48] Commissioner marriott?

[9:49] Yes commissioner Felts.

[9:50] Yes commissioner Reznik.

[9:52] Yes vice mayor Lorenzo.

[9:53] Yes mayor Petrica.

[9:54] Yes motion carries.

[9:56] Thank you.

[9:57]

[10:00] Do we have any audience comments?

[10:03] Tom Rask.

[10:04]

[10:08] If you'll please state your name and address for the record.

[10:11] Tom Rask unincorporated.

[10:13] Tom Rask unincorporated Pinellas County.

[10:16] You just had an executive session inside

[10:19] of a open meeting and that did not adhere to the CLIA

[10:25] requirements of the statute, which means that the meeting

[10:29] was out of the sunshine and any meeting,

[10:33] the cure for any Sunshine Law violation is clear.

[10:36] You disclose the contents of the meeting, you will see here

[10:40] and the material that's on the screen

[10:43] is it says all meetings at which official action will be taken

[10:48] are declared to be public meetings.

[10:50] And you go down here, there's an exception

[10:52] for executive session provided that the following conditions

[10:55] are met.

[10:56] Those conditions were not met.

[10:58] And I gave the city attorney and the mayor

[11:01] a folder laying this out after the executive session.

[11:06] Let's look at the notice for your April 26th, 2022,

[11:13] almost two years ago.

[11:15] Executive session there.

[11:17] The meeting, the special meeting and executive session were

[11:21] noticed and I wish it would have said notice of, but it didn't.

[11:25] But both were noticed.

[11:27] Now look at the notice for today.

[11:30] There's that word notice.

[11:31] Thank you.

[11:32] It appears.

[11:33] But notice of executive session only.

[11:36] So therefore, the meeting, the open meeting was not noticed.

[11:41] The executive session was opened inside of the open meeting.

[11:44] There's another problem that occurred during the meeting,

[11:47] and that is that the city attorney did not follow what

[11:52] the statute requires, which is that the city

[11:56] attorney, the entity's attorney, shall advise

[11:58] the entity at a public meeting that he or she desires advice

[12:02] concerning the litigation.

[12:03] That did not happen.

[12:04] That also did not happen at your meeting two years ago.

[12:08] Here are the minutes.

[12:09] Nowhere does it say it again.

[12:14] You get to keep the records exempt, provided

[12:18] that the following conditions are met.

[12:20] They were not met.

[12:22] I talked to the city attorney briefly

[12:24] here between the previous meeting and this meeting,

[12:28] and I said, look it over.

[12:32] Uh, I hope you'll see it my way.

[12:34] So we can avoid a lawsuit.

[12:36] Because if you just simply disclose in the sunshine,

[12:39] preferably tonight what occurred at the executive session, then

[12:44] we can avoid a lawsuit.

[12:46] Public records lawsuits require five days notice.

[12:50] Chapter 286 lawsuits do not.

[12:52] So I hope the city attorney has looked it over.

[12:55] I hope that at least some of the members of this commission

[13:02] will now ask the tough questions.

[13:04] And by the way, I have no idea whether the entity that

[13:08] has sued you over the commission,

[13:10] whether it's lawfully seated, whether they think this what

[13:13] I'm doing now is a good idea.

[13:14] I don't care.

[13:15] I'm all about the process.

[13:16] City did not follow the process.

[13:18] Thank you.

[13:20] Thank you.

[13:21] Do we have any other audience comments?

[13:23] John kurzman.

[13:24]

[13:29] If you'll please state your name and address for the record.

[13:33] John kurzman.

[13:34] On the way South.

[13:35]

[13:43] Good I just wanted to talk briefly about the flood

[13:49] ordinance, because at the last meeting

[13:51] it wasn't an action item, so there

[13:53] was no comments, which means that we're still back

[13:55] at what was decided at the prior meeting, which

[13:58] was that eventually there will be some sort of open community

[14:01] meeting where people can talk publicly and ask

[14:04] questions and discuss it.

[14:06] If you're really going to move ahead,

[14:07] I hope you don't move ahead on it.

[14:09] But if you do, just some quick reasons why there's a concern.

[14:13] And one of the big concerns was that the whole reason that FEMA

[14:18] entices people to raise their houses or one of the ways

[14:22] they entice them is they say, well, if you raise your house,

[14:24] you won't have to follow the 50% rule anymore.

[14:28] But the way this new ordinance was written,

[14:30] it doesn't make it clear that that's the case.

[14:33] So if you even look at our old checklist

[14:36] for fema, substantial improvement package requiring

[14:38] all structures built prior to 1971, because automatically,

[14:43] if they were built prior to 71, they

[14:44] would not have been compliant.

[14:47] Or then you go through the process.

[14:49] Also houses are already grandfathered.

[14:55] So there was talk about in that first meeting that you could

[14:58] this was to help save money on people's money,

[15:00] on their insurance.

[15:01] Well, according to the fema, once you're in

[15:05] and you're compliant, even if the rules change,

[15:08] the ratings change, you are still going to have

[15:11] your insurance preserved.

[15:13] So at least that's the way the current FEMA

[15:15] documents appear to be written.

[15:17] Next, there was a question about, well,

[15:20] how much will we save if we go through all these hoops?

[15:22] We change all these rules which could affect people

[15:25] and cost them a lot of money.

[15:26] What will it save us?

[15:28] Well, I looked at the community status report for Florida.

[15:32] There's 500 communities in Florida.

[15:34] Only 250 of them are in FEMA.

[15:37] We're a category six, as was discussed.

[15:40] If you go to category five, we save 5%

[15:43] If you go to category four, you save

[15:45] another 5% That's your savings.

[15:47] Secondly, if you look and I put a spreadsheet

[15:51] together on a calculated how many there are, there's only.

[15:54]

[15:57] Here's a spreadsheet.

[15:58] If we were going to be if we get ourselves to category

[16:02] four, which we were told was the goal, to go up two levels,

[16:06] we would be in the top five communities

[16:08] in the entire state.

[16:10] There's only four communities in the entire state of Florida

[16:13] that are category 4 or better.

[16:15] Do we really think that our existing community could,

[16:18] could really do that?

[16:20] That's a lot of work.

[16:22] So I just think that we need to start slowly

[16:26] try to get to maybe category 5 and really

[16:28] think about what the cost and the impact to the citizens are.

[16:31] In trying to do this.

[16:32] You need to understand what those costs are.

[16:34] Also, there was talk about saying

[16:36] that the floodplain administrator

[16:38] could use any map.

[16:39] That just sounds like anarchy.

[16:41] We have to pick what map is used for each property.

[16:44] And it mentioned the Pinellas map.

[16:45] And the Pinellas map says 2040, 20, 72,100.

[16:49] And, you know, you got to pick which

[16:51] model you're going to use.

[16:53] Thank you, sir.

[16:53] Just stick to FEMA.

[16:54] So thank you very much.

[16:56] Thank you.

[16:58] City clerk to any other audience comments.

[17:00] Thank you.

[17:02] All right.

[17:03] Next, we have item 7 B. Quasi judicial hearing

[17:10] and resolution 2020 324.

[17:14] Hi Tim Driscoll Driscoll law firm 146

[17:17] second street, North St Pete.

[17:19] 310 As the city attorney stated, we

[17:22] are asking for a continuance of this matter

[17:24] till March 26 at 6:00 PM.

[17:27] A date certain, and we would request

[17:29] that you make that continuance.

[17:33] Thank you also.

[17:34] So if you all don't know, he used to be the city

[17:37] attorney for Saint Pete Beach.

[17:38] Yes, I was for back in 2004 to 2007.

[17:44] Worked worked with at the mayor at that time

[17:47] was warden for chilowsky, who was on this commission

[17:49] until recently.

[17:51] So is there a reason for the continuance?

[17:56] Well, Yes.

[17:57] The pending lawsuit regarding the makeup of the commission,

[18:02] I believe, will be resolved, at least

[18:04] as it pertains to districts 1 and 3 by that date.

[18:09] And so that's why we're asking for that.

[18:11] And then hopefully between now and that date,

[18:15] the remaining issues in that lawsuit will be resolved.

[18:18] So we don't want to have any approval that

[18:21] could be jeopardized by the makeup of the commission,

[18:24] quite frankly.

[18:25] So that's the basis for our request.

[18:27] OK And you do understand that district

[18:31] 1 and 3 are not in contention?

[18:33] I do.

[18:34] OK I do.

[18:35] Just because that's a recent development.

[18:38] So yes, exactly.

[18:40] No, I do know that.

[18:41] And it doesn't change my opinion about the validity issues.

[18:45] So sounds good.

[18:49] Any questions or comments?

[18:52] Do we have a motion?

[18:53] I do have one public comment.

[18:56] I have one person signed up to speak,

[18:57] but I'd like to read the title into the record, please.

[19:00] Certainly resolution 2324, a resolution of the city

[19:05] commission of the city of St Pete beach, Florida,

[19:07] approving a conditional use permit pursuant to Section 35.3

[19:11] Perron B Perron three of the land development code to allow

[19:15] the permanent establishment of a semi pervious commercial

[19:17] parking lot at parcel number 063216081180000470

[19:25] with an address of 5090 Gulf Boulevard.

[19:29] Incorporating the conditions outlined herein

[19:31] and providing for correction of scrivener's

[19:33] error and an effective date.

[19:35] And I do have Kim Peterson signed up to speak.

[19:40] I do have a question.

[19:42] Is on the issue of continuance or not?

[19:47] No OK.

[19:48] OK all right.

[19:49] I just wanted to ask.

[19:50] Great Thank you.

[19:51] City clerk.

[19:52] Thank you, commissioner.

[19:55] My question is how I'm a little confused as to one

[20:00] thing relating to the other and why you would

[20:03] feel that it would be done.

[20:06] One issue that doesn't relate to yours and that

[20:09] would make it better in March.

[20:11] Well, you have four seats that are in doubt

[20:15] because of a pending lawsuit.

[20:17] So in my opinion, after the election date, the scheduled

[20:22] election date in march, two of those seats

[20:25] are no longer in doubt.

[20:26] So that means you have at least three seats that

[20:29] are under no cloud whatsoever.

[20:32] The remaining two seats still are under that cloud.

[20:35] Unless that gets resolved, it's our hope

[20:37] that you get that resolved by March 26th,

[20:40] and we can be comfortable that we have a full, fully

[20:43] seated five duly elected commissioners

[20:48] or duly appointed in some cases.

[20:50]

[20:58] Is it OK if we all have a discussion about this?

[21:01] Sure sure.

[21:02] I mean, the decision of 1 you're basing and I'm talking,

[21:10] I guess, to the commission, I don't know if you all

[21:13] have questions about this or not,

[21:15] but I don't see how one relates to the other.

[21:21] You know, currently is that location still running

[21:25] a business as a parking?

[21:27] So they're waiting for this approval?

[21:29] Yeah, there's nothing going on currently right now.

[21:31] They're willing to sacrifice that to get through this issue.

[21:36] OK now, is there outstanding I want to say citations,

[21:43] but I know that there was issues at that lot

[21:46] that haven't been addressed.

[21:47] So, I mean, I don't think it's a justice to the residents

[21:52] to wait off on something when there's something that

[21:54] may still be pending that, you know,

[21:56] I really wanted to get into.

[21:58] So I just want to have that discussion.

[22:02] I can tell you that there are no current citations or anything

[22:05] against the property.

[22:06]

[22:15] I want to make sure I understand what's on the table.

[22:17] So are we basically discussing whether we

[22:19] approve or disapprove a continuation

[22:21] in lieu of some other movement?

[22:24] Correct Yes.

[22:26] OK the request is to continue the item to March.

[22:30]

[22:34] I think that as in this instance where, you know,

[22:38] they're looking for approval for a use that

[22:41] is currently not being used.

[22:43] You know, there's nothing happening on that lot

[22:46] that you would need permission for currently

[22:49] that if their request is for the continuance,

[22:55] regardless of any of our personal feelings

[22:58] about the validity of the reason for the request,

[23:01] I don't know that there's any real compelling reason to not

[23:06] grant that if that's what the property owner is wishing

[23:10] well based on what he said.

[23:13] Sorry that's OK.

[23:14] But what you said is.

[23:16]

[23:19] The validity of and I'm assuming you're

[23:21] waiting to March because that's when the election

[23:23] would have taken place.

[23:25] But we also have an election that's coming in August,

[23:28] right, because there's two appointed positions here.

[23:30] So why March and not august?

[23:33] Well, August would probably be better, but march,

[23:37] we don't want to push it out that far is really

[23:40] the short answer to that.

[23:41] We'd rather just it's already going to impede them somewhat,

[23:47] not to be able to use the parking

[23:48] lot in the beginning of March when the spring break begins.

[23:52] So they're already going to sacrifice that.

[23:54] I don't think that they can afford to sacrifice

[23:56] all the way out to August.

[23:58] So this is a compromise between before,

[24:01] you know, between doing that and going in March.

[24:04] And we still hope that this will get resolved.

[24:08] And our hope is that in the next two months,

[24:11] we'll get some resolution and this will no

[24:13] longer be an issue for anyone.

[24:15] And this is just my opinion.

[24:17] You vote for this continuance, you're

[24:18] not agreeing with anything that I'm saying with regard

[24:21] to this other matter that has nothing to do with this matter,

[24:24] as you correctly pointed out.

[24:25] So we're just asking you to give us this reasonable continuance

[24:28] to allow us to have more faith that the decision

[24:32] will continue to be upheld.

[24:35] Now, from my understanding, we don't

[24:37] have to give the continuance.

[24:39] And again, I'm basing this off of the reason

[24:42] why you're requesting it.

[24:43]

[24:46] From that reason, there are still

[24:48] two seats then that were appointed that wouldn't

[24:51] be addressed till August.

[24:53] So I still don't see and the financial hardship

[24:57] or whatever the reason why spring break is coming

[24:59] is not the point.

[25:01] You know, if that's the reason, then why not wait till august?

[25:07] Well, we could.

[25:08] But again, at that matter, because you're

[25:10] six months out, you know, if you know, I'll leave it at that.

[25:18] Mr mayor, if I could.

[25:20] Certainly I see the validity of both your concerns

[25:23] and Commissioner Marriott.

[25:25] Personally, after listening to everybody,

[25:27] I don't have any issues with continuing this.

[25:30] That's my opinion.

[25:32] Subject to a vote.

[25:34] And just to be clear, I mean, I know he's attorney

[25:38] Driscoll's mentioning a date, but it

[25:40] would have to be re-advertised.

[25:42] So, you know, we typically don't continue

[25:47] things constantly to a date certain to avoid

[25:50] advertisements.

[25:51] So this one would have to be re-advertised.

[25:53] And we understand that.

[25:54] OK do we have a motion?

[26:00]

[26:03] I'll make a motion to approve continuation of resolution.

[26:10] What do we have here?

[26:11] Conditional use permit 2369 and variance

[26:14] 23 068 59 de Gaulle Boulevard.

[26:19] Do we have a second?

[26:22] Second did you want to?

[26:26] I don't know if you would just add that March 26th date.

[26:30] That would be great.

[26:32] He's seeking to be heard on March 26.

[26:34] So if you want to amend your motion,

[26:37] is that a committee meeting already scheduled?

[26:41] That's a commission date.

[26:42] That's a commission meeting date.

[26:43] Yeah, I'll amend that motion to approve

[26:46] what I've already said to continue

[26:48] that until March 26th, 2024.

[26:52] Do we have a second for the amendment?

[26:53] Second So we're going to vote on just

[26:58] the Amendment to the main motion on the floor

[27:00] like Mayor had just said.

[27:02] So the Amendment is to add the March 26th, 2024.

[27:07] Commissioner Fultz.

[27:08] Yes commissioner Reznik.

[27:10] No vice mayor Lorenzen Yes.

[27:13] Commissioner Marriott Yes.

[27:15] Mayor Petrella.

[27:15] Yes motion carries.

[27:17] Thank you and roll call for the actual motion.

[27:21] So the main motion, commissioner Reznik pardon?

[27:26] I'm sorry.

[27:27] I was now voting on the motion to approve

[27:29] the continuation for the case number

[27:31] and address to March 26th.

[27:33] No vice mayor Lorenzen.

[27:35] Yes commissioner Marriott.

[27:37] Yes commissioner Fultz.

[27:38] Yes mayor Petrella.

[27:40] Yes motion carries.

[27:41] Thank you all very much.

[27:42]

[27:46] Next we have item five, a appointments

[27:50] to outside agencies.

[27:52] City clerk.

[27:53]

[27:55] Thank you, mayor.

[27:56] So as we discussed at the last meeting,

[27:59] this is something that we bring up

[28:01] typically after the election.

[28:03] And I've listed out all of the different outside agencies

[28:07] and leave it up to you all to discuss who can do what.

[28:12] And and I will make that chart.

[28:15]

[28:18] Well, I'll be the canary in the mine here.

[28:21] I kind of looked at how the previous commission

[28:25] did things, mostly with respect to the mayor

[28:27] and the vice mayor.

[28:29] So I would throw out on the table

[28:32] that I could become the alternate for the mayor

[28:36] on the big see, be the representative for the FLC

[28:41] and be the alternate for the mic pc, if that makes sense.

[28:47] Mayor, if I may.

[28:49] Certainly I'd be interested in the Tampa

[28:51] Bay regional Planning Council as far as the representative.

[28:56] OK and I would be interested in the flood insurance.

[29:02] And I would.

[29:02] And second on the league if someone else takes primary.

[29:06]

[29:08] So what is that?

[29:09] That leaves the Suncoast league of cities spot for the primary,

[29:13] I believe.

[29:14] And I would be fine with that If if I'm

[29:17] hearing everyone correctly.

[29:19] I think that's.

[29:20] Yep, Yep.

[29:22] City clerk did you catch all that?

[29:23] OK, so I have the mayor is the primary for big C

[29:29] and mayors council obviously with the understanding

[29:32] that for now, vice mayor you're going

[29:36] to be attending the big c, but you will be

[29:40] documented as the alternative.

[29:43] Then I have you're also a vice mayor.

[29:47] You're also, as the representative on Florida

[29:49] league of cities and the alternate

[29:52] for the mayors council.

[29:54] Commissioner fields, you will be the primary for Tampa Bay

[29:56] Regional and Commissioner Resnick

[30:00] or the flood insurance rep and Commissioner Marriott.

[30:06] You are on the Pinellas County.

[30:09] No, sorry.

[30:10] You're on the Southern Coast league of cities.

[30:12] Yes so what do you guys want to do for alternates for the big C

[30:21] is the only one that we have.

[30:22] And mayors council for me was the Florida

[30:25] league of cities for alternate.

[30:27]

[30:30] Anybody for the Tampa Bay regional Planning Council.

[30:33] Sure OK.

[30:34]

[30:42] So that leaves Pinellas County Flood insurance.

[30:46] I can be an alternate for that one.

[30:48]

[30:52] Suncoast won league of cities.

[30:56] Who wants to be the alternate for that?

[30:58]

[31:02] Flood you don't want to have to.

[31:09] OK which was the one that you needed.

[31:12] Suncoast I can do that one too, if you want to put a name.

[31:16]

[31:25] All right.

[31:26] So then I just need a motion to approve the board appointments,

[31:30] as discussed.

[31:31]

[31:34] I move to approve the board appointments as discussed.

[31:38] I second.

[31:39] City clerk, if you'll please do a roll call.

[31:41] Commissioner reznik?

[31:43] Yes vice mayor Lorenzen.

[31:45] Yes commissioner Marriott.

[31:47] Yes Commissioner Phillips.

[31:48] Yes mayor Petrica.

[31:49] Yes motion carries.

[31:51] Thank you.

[31:52] Next, we have resolutions seven, a resolution 2023 23

[31:57] public records requests policy.

[31:59] City clerk.

[32:01] Thank you, mayor.

[32:02] Resolution 20 2323.

[32:05] A resolution of the city commission

[32:06] of the city of St Pete beach, Florida.

[32:08] Finding the necessity to adopt a policy and fee schedule

[32:11] concerning public records requests

[32:13] consistent with Florida statutes.

[32:14] Chapter 119 providing for definitions

[32:18] of applicable public records, providing for a basic fee

[32:21] schedule for production of copies,

[32:23] providing for a reasonable special service charge when

[32:26] applicable, providing for severability,

[32:29] conflict, correction of scrivener's error

[32:31] and an effective date.

[32:33] Thank you.

[32:35] So this public records policy is something that the city

[32:41] has had since I came on board.

[32:43] I wrote a policy, but I wanted it to be more formally adopted

[32:47] and that's why I'm bringing it forward

[32:49] in the form of a resolution.

[32:50] I've prepared a training PowerPoint with a test

[32:56] that, I will hand out to the employees if this gets adopted.

[33:00] And then I would like to do that every year

[33:02] with the current employees.

[33:04] And then of course, when new hires are on board.

[33:07] So it just follows the statute and our current practice

[33:12] as well.

[33:12]

[33:16] Questions or comments.

[33:19] Yeah, if I can.

[33:21] City clerk is there anything materially

[33:25] that changes this from the resolution

[33:28] that it's superseding?

[33:30] So the prior resolution, the policy

[33:33] did not include we did not use just FOIA platform then

[33:40] and it didn't go into depth on the process for redactions

[33:46] and the types of public records requests.

[33:49] It was more of a records management policy

[33:53] with some tie-in of the statute regarding the definition

[33:56] of what a public record is, that ultimately the clerk's

[34:00] office or myself is designated as the public records custodian

[34:03] because we have to do that per statute.

[34:05] However, this also articulates to the employees

[34:08] that you are also custodian of your record.

[34:11] Like I'm not everywhere, right?

[34:13] So if someone were to come in to the permit office

[34:16] and want a copy of their permit, I mean, they can essentially

[34:19] do that and not have to contact me because they are

[34:21] the custodian of that record.

[34:23] So it kind of talks about that stuff.

[34:25] The fees that was same as prior.

[34:28] I did change the copy data for the USB flash drive

[34:31] and the CD prior, you know, dated CDs were more of a thing.

[34:36] And now you're not supposed to be charging to make money.

[34:39] You're supposed to be the actual cost.

[34:41] So it's $0.50 and $3 for a USB and that's very rare,

[34:45] but everything else is per statute.

[34:47] Also, this one is talks about special service charge.

[34:52] So the prior policy was 15 minutes.

[34:55] So anything over 15 minutes, we charged the hourly rate

[34:59] of the lowest paid employee that's

[35:00] competent enough to complete the public records request.

[35:03] I don't particularly like that.

[35:05] I think that public records fulfillment is part of your job

[35:09] as a public officer, and it's what you

[35:11] do when you're in government.

[35:13] So I upped it to 30 minutes.

[35:16] I feel like that's pretty reasonable.

[35:17] Most records requests can occur within 30 minutes

[35:21] and we don't charge anything 30 minutes or less.

[35:24] So we also have identified that in here

[35:26] and that is a change too.

[35:28] Thanks city clerk.

[35:33] I apologize.

[35:34] I had a little trouble hearing all of that

[35:35] because you're way over in the corner pocket there.

[35:37] Sorry so other than adding a few items to the fee schedule,

[35:42] are there any big price changes or.

[35:44] OK Thank you.

[35:45] No, nothing increased.

[35:47] OK Nope.

[35:48]

[35:53] Any further comments.

[35:54] Discussions audience comments.

[35:56] I have no cards.

[35:57] Yes oh, I'm sorry, John.

[35:59] You can fill this out while I was OK.

[36:01] John kurzman, come to the floor.

[36:05] Come on down.

[36:08] I support this change.

[36:09] And, you know, I think it's important.

[36:11] Of course not.

[36:11] Please state your name and address for the record.

[36:14] John kurzman, 5810 Highlander way South.

[36:17] Thank you, sir.

[36:18] I'm not speaking on behalf of the beach stewards.

[36:21] One thing I just want to mention,

[36:23] though, is that there's public records

[36:26] that you have to request via this FOA

[36:30] that sometimes you wouldn't realize.

[36:31] I mean, I've asked questions just about my home,

[36:34] and I think it was the building department or someone said,

[36:36] OK, well, I just have to put that in through the FOIA.

[36:39] It's a public records request.

[36:41] And then I've sent in letters, communications with people

[36:46] due to the city commission and for instance,

[36:49] things that were sent to the city commission

[36:52] are in the public record, but they're not up on the website

[36:57] where people can see it.

[36:59] So I had sent in my presentation about flood

[37:03] management for a prior meeting, but it's

[37:06] nowhere on the website.

[37:07] So for anyone who ever wanted to even know that it existed,

[37:10] they would have to do a public records request.

[37:13] And it seems like that would be extra work.

[37:16] So it's my suggestion that maybe it would be less work

[37:19] and it's just related to the spirit of this.

[37:21] If there was some way that the things

[37:23] that are sent to the city commission

[37:24] or the various commissions for our public meetings

[37:27] and also in the spirit of the Sunshine Act

[37:29] that we're trying to know, if there's

[37:32] a communication that's being made to everyone

[37:33] who is on a commission.

[37:35] Yes, it's in the public record if someone knows to ask for it.

[37:39] But maybe it would be nice if this information

[37:41] would get instead because we have a great website.

[37:43] It's amazing.

[37:44] I mean, it's better than any website

[37:46] I've ever seen for a public community already, really.

[37:49] But if there's some way we could also have the communications

[37:52] because also, as an example, the most recent thing when I just

[37:56] went into address foia, and this is fantastic too,

[37:59] that you can go and do a search of what every other FOIA

[38:01] request has been.

[38:03] So before I went and did a request for freebie,

[38:05] for instance, I went in and did a search on anybody else,

[38:09] had done a freebie request.

[38:10] Unfortunately, I didn't know freebie was

[38:12] two words, so I didn't find it.

[38:14] But but, you know, so people could do that too, to take

[38:17] the load off of the staff.

[38:19] Always they could search first.

[38:21] But so what I'm getting at is that we have this great tool,

[38:25] but when I look at Serrata, which we all were told to do

[38:27] to get ready for the Serrata meeting,

[38:29] the most recent Serrata just FOIA result,

[38:35] I think, and I have it on my phone,

[38:36] but it just locked up on me was the most recent one

[38:41] was November 18th, 2023.

[38:45] So if anyone had communicated after November 18th,

[38:47] 2023 with staff.

[38:49] You weren't going to see that information if you went

[38:52] to the justice-for-hire site, as everybody was told to do,

[38:54] to get ready for the last public meeting.

[38:56] So that's an issue we need to address that kind of thing,

[39:00] too.

[39:01] So if there's some way we can get that kind of thing

[39:04] automated somehow, to not have to be a manual process where

[39:08] when people are sending these communications

[39:09] in for a public meeting or something like a key topic,

[39:13] it can get into that place.

[39:16] It might help make the system, you know,

[39:18] a little smoother and easier.

[39:20] Thank you.

[39:20] Thank you, sir.

[39:23] Any other public comments?

[39:24] Tom rask, if you'll please state your name

[39:28] and address for the record.

[39:30] Tom Rask.

[39:31] Tom Rask in Pinellas County.

[39:33] I've been trying to download this resolution on my phone,

[39:36] but it's apparently a large agenda

[39:38] packet, so I haven't seen it.

[39:40] But some of the language here is concerning.

[39:42] It does say fee schedule concerning

[39:46] public records requests consistent with Florida

[39:48] statutes.

[39:49] Chapter 119, which is the Florida public records law.

[39:53] But then it has language after that

[39:55] saying providing for definitions of applicable public records

[40:00] you don't get this agency doesn't get to decide

[40:03] what's a public record.

[40:04] The statute does.

[40:06] Case law does.

[40:07] Et cetera.

[40:08] Then it says for it's I'm looking for the language

[40:12] at providing for reasonable special service

[40:14] charge when applicable.

[40:16] I from memory that's not authorized by statute.

[40:20] So I again I haven't seen the resolution,

[40:23] but I'd encourage you to ask for ask about this.

[40:29] I see things like severability.

[40:30] Is the person supposed to enter into some kind of agreement

[40:33] with the city?

[40:35] That's also that would not be lawful

[40:39] because we have a constitutional Florida constitutional right

[40:44] to public records.

[40:45] We also have a statutory right.

[40:47] You can't make people agree to any terms of service.

[40:50] You can't even make them fill out a form

[40:52] or tell you why they're asking for the public records.

[40:56] So those are The concerns I have.

[40:58] Thank you.

[40:59] Thank you.

[41:00]

[41:03] OK I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2023.

[41:12] Dash 23.

[41:13] Public records request policy.

[41:15]

[41:18] A second.

[41:20] City clerk, if you'll please do a roll call.

[41:23] Vice mayor lorenzen?

[41:24] Yes commissioner Marriott.

[41:25] Yes commissioner Fultz.

[41:27] Yes commissioner Reznik.

[41:28] Yes mayor Petrella.

[41:30] Yes motion carries.

[41:31] Thank you.

[41:32] Thank you.

[41:32]

[41:37] Next we have item eight, a sovereign

[41:41] submerged lands easement renewal discussion and possible action.

[41:46] City manager.

[41:47] Public service director Clark is here, I believe.

[41:50]

[42:01] Mike Clark.

[42:02] Mike Clark, public works director.

[42:05] A sovereign, submerged land lease

[42:07] is a very common and routine document that says,

[42:11] essentially the Lessor US has something that's

[42:16] in under or on top of the waters of the state of Florida,

[42:20] the waters of the United States of America.

[42:22] There is a survey that documents the boundaries

[42:25] of where that object is.

[42:28] And there's an agreement between the state and the individual,

[42:32] in our case, the municipality, that we'll do our part

[42:35] to make sure that, you know, the use is correct

[42:38] and it doesn't change.

[42:39] And the state will do their part to document it to make

[42:41] sure that boats don't hit it.

[42:43] Or if it's an interstate navigable waterway,

[42:46] it's on the charts and things of that nature.

[42:48] This is a renewal.

[42:50] The original did expire.

[42:52] So I called the state agency, the point of contact

[42:56] that manages these things.

[42:58] And she stated that happens from time

[43:00] to time with municipalities because of meetings

[43:03] and schedules and such.

[43:04] It is not a problem on their part.

[43:05] The state will backdate the date on their side.

[43:12] Great Thank you.

[43:16] Questions, comments, discussion.

[43:19] I have one, Mr Mayor.

[43:20] So this is zero cost to the taxpayer, right.

[43:22] And it's already, I think, Florida DEP

[43:24] land that owns this.

[43:27] There's no.

[43:28] Thank you.

[43:28]

[43:34] City clerk in the audience comments.

[43:36] I have no cards, mayor.

[43:40] Do we have a motion?

[43:42] I'll make a motion to accept the sovereignty submerged lands

[43:45] easement renewal and authorize the mayor

[43:49] to sign for submittal to the Florida Department

[43:50] of Environmental Protection.

[43:53] Do we have a second?

[43:55] Second city clerk, if you'll please do a roll call.

[43:58] Commissioner Marriott.

[43:59] Yes Commissioner Purfeerst.

[44:00] Yes commissioner Resnick.

[44:02] Yes vice mayor Lorenzen.

[44:04] Yes mayor Petrica.

[44:05] Yes motion carries.

[44:07] Thank you.

[44:08] Next we have item 8 B. Commissioner Resnick.

[44:11] Regarding commission meeting attendance.

[44:13] Yes I wanted to bring this up, of course, because

[44:17] of all the things that have been transpiring that I

[44:21] wasn't privy to, obviously.

[44:24] So I didn't know how it was going to conflict.

[44:26] Two things that I already had on my schedule.

[44:30] I will not be able to attend February.

[44:33] And sorry, I'm bringing this because I know we already

[44:36] have a set calendar and I wasn't a part of determining

[44:40] a calendar for commission meetings

[44:42] because I wasn't here obviously, back then.

[44:44] But February 13th, I have it's my last day

[44:50] as president of the property owners corporation.

[44:53] It's our annual meeting, it's on our bylaws.

[44:55] We have an election.

[44:57] So, you know, the gavel is being passed over.

[45:01] And so I cannot miss that.

[45:04] So I will be missing this.

[45:06] So I'm not going to be asking for Zoom

[45:07] or anything crazy because it happens

[45:09] to be at the same exact time, 6 PM

[45:13] so I just wanted to bring that up.

[45:14] But in that, you know, as in my employment,

[45:19] I set my time off way in advance because we

[45:23] have to plan it that way when the school year starts.

[45:26] So I have a March 12th and a June 25 date

[45:30] because our fiscal year goes to June, June 30th,

[45:34] you know, the end of the month of June.

[45:36] And then we start off again in July.

[45:37] So we always have to plan out.

[45:39] So I have that marked as my time off from work.

[45:44] I have not planned anything, so I don't know

[45:47] if I'm going to be on a plane.

[45:48] I don't know if I'm going to be doing anything.

[45:50] I haven't gotten that far.

[45:51] So my question was about whether I could partake.

[45:55] I may be able to participate in Zoom.

[45:58] I know there's been discussion here in the about Zoom

[46:01] or teams, whichever platform it is that we use.

[46:05] I know it doesn't count towards quorum, but we can vote.

[46:10] I don't know if there's ever been a resolution as to there's

[46:14] been some discussion, so I just wanted to bring it to the table

[46:17] so that we could talk about it.

[46:19]

[46:24] So maybe I'll remember.

[46:27] Maybe the city clerk could remind us

[46:29] of what the if what the commission has done in the past

[46:33] and if there's any of that has been codified in any way,

[46:38] or if it was just an agreement amongst the commission.

[46:41] So nothing has been adopted by the commission.

[46:44] I presented it in November of last year.

[46:47] My research and my discussion with the city attorney and I

[46:51] wrote a memorandum to the commission based on that.

[46:55] Basically what's been happening is the mayor

[46:58] announces when he's been the only one

[47:00] to participate from on Zoom.

[47:03] So what he has been doing is announcing it like Betty

[47:06] or Commissioner Resnick just did.

[47:07] And then it's notice that he would be attending via Zoom.

[47:11] And that's just the way we've been doing it

[47:13] until we have some other formal process adopted but not allowed

[47:19] to vote.

[47:19] Right if you're zooming mayor does vote.

[47:24] He has voted and that does count.

[47:26]

[47:28] Does this need to be codified?

[47:30] Andrew?

[47:31] it does not.

[47:32] I mean, you can I think the clerk

[47:35] did a nice job on the memo.

[47:37]

[47:40] Ironically, there's actually a bill in Tallahassee

[47:42] where they're actually considering

[47:45] giving local governments the ability

[47:47] to hold meetings virtually.

[47:49] I think, two or three times per year.

[47:52] I'm assuming it has to do with the summer

[47:54] break or something like that.

[47:56] But, you know, we can keep you posted to that.

[47:58] But generally speaking, the law is

[48:01] that you have to have an in-person quorum present

[48:07] and that, you know, the reason for attending electronically

[48:14] is warranted.

[48:18] Obviously, we would have to know,

[48:19] what I do is, depending on what's on the agenda,

[48:23] like if there's a quasi judicial hearing that's on the agenda,

[48:26] you know, we have to take extra steps

[48:28] to make sure that, you know, disclosures are made that you

[48:32] affirm that you have everything in front of you,

[48:37] that, you know, the information is there.

[48:39] So that whoever's voting is voting with full knowledge

[48:42] of information.

[48:43] So we really just kind of handled it on a case by case

[48:46] basis because it's not illegal.

[48:51] You know, the attorney general opinions kind of go back

[48:55] in time and don't really keep up with technology,

[49:01] to be honest with you, because I think when the first ones

[49:03] were issued, it was about telephones

[49:07] and attending by telephone.

[49:09] So the technology is very different now.

[49:12] So, you know, we can codify it.

[49:16] I'm not sure if you want to or not.

[49:19] I mean, I think so far we've been able to handle it

[49:21] on a case by case basis, you know,

[49:25] to make sure that and now the Zoom does work very good.

[49:30] Maybe a year and a half ago, it was not working very good

[49:34] and we were having trouble with it.

[49:36] So it hasn't been a problem doing that.

[49:41]

[49:46] This brings up actually another point that we discussed

[49:51] at the end of last year, and we said we were going to revisit

[49:54] it earlier this year.

[49:57] We had a conversation about looking at July, August.

[50:02] And putting the meetings at the front end and the back end.

[50:06] So we're required to have two meetings per month.

[50:09] So I think one of that would actually

[50:12] fix your third meeting, right, potentially.

[50:18] So I think what we talked about was scheduling two meetings,

[50:21] either back to back two days in a row or maybe a week apart

[50:24] in the first week, early July, and then

[50:27] having the next commission meeting seven or eight weeks

[50:30] later.

[50:33] We'll still have to have the 27th of August meeting

[50:35] because that's going to be right after the election.

[50:37] And then there'll be the swearing in

[50:39] and everything else.

[50:42] So looking at the calendar, I mean,

[50:44] we could depending on what the commission wanted to do,

[50:46] we could do July 2nd and we have a ninth scheduled.

[50:52] For example, we could do July 1st and second,

[50:56] eighth and ninth, and then we could

[50:57] do the same thing in August.

[50:59]

[51:02] I mean, those are some options that

[51:05] would give some people, especially

[51:06] those with kids in school and.

[51:09] Some time.

[51:10] Do you take time off?

[51:11] And if I remember Commissioner lorenzen,

[51:16] you're going to be out as well.

[51:17] So that'll solve some of those times off as well.

[51:24] So I'm not sure if that's the conversation we want to have.

[51:26] Now as part of this conversation.

[51:28] Well, at least I'm putting it out there,

[51:31] so at least we all could individually, personally

[51:33] go look at our calendars and if there is something before we

[51:35] start playing again with the calendar

[51:38] because we can change the date.

[51:40] Right so as long so maybe we could do that

[51:43] at the next commission meeting, maybe come prepared to if we,

[51:48] if I'm not asking to have to move it, but because, you know,

[51:51] we really haven't been able to talk about this,

[51:55] maybe we can come prepared to if we need it, to move somewhere.

[51:59] That's that's a good point.

[52:00] City clerk if you different one is February 13.

[52:02] Let me just say Yeah Yeah Yeah we can add it for discussion

[52:06] for next commission meeting and then everyone

[52:08] can look at their calendars between now and then

[52:10] and see come prepared with some dates that are available

[52:13] or not available.

[52:14] Do you want me to put it?

[52:15] Since commissioner Reznik will be

[52:17] out for the February 13 meeting, do you want me to put

[52:19] it onto the February 27th?

[52:21] No, we should have it without her.

[52:22] Here, make the decisions.

[52:27] Then I'll come to that meeting and say, that's fine.

[52:32] OK mayor.

[52:34] Excuse me.

[52:35] Just one thing.

[52:36] As you're looking at your calendars,

[52:37] if specific times that you need to be out

[52:41] or would like to be out, if you could give that information

[52:45] either to the clerk's office to me

[52:46] prior to that meeting, because there are certain meetings

[52:49] that we need to have and certain staff requirements

[52:52] we need to have.

[52:53] So if we could have some idea ahead of time,

[52:56] ahead of that next discussion, then

[52:58] we could make sure that it meets all of our other requirements.

[53:04] Thank you.

[53:07] Yeah, I've got a general question on that.

[53:09] How far in advance do we need in order to change

[53:11] a commission meeting date?

[53:14] I would prefer seven days.

[53:16] OK you can do 72 hours.

[53:18] OK Thanks.

[53:19]

[53:22] OK Any other discussion on this?

[53:26] OK, next we have item 8 c, the executive session.

[53:32] Thank you, mayor.

[53:33] Pursuant to section 286 .011, subparagraph eight,

[53:43] when the city attorney wants to have

[53:47] your advice in an executive session,

[53:50] I need to announce that at a public meeting.

[53:53] This is a public meeting, so I'm announcing it specifically.

[53:57] It says the entity's attorney and the city

[54:01] would be the entity shall advise the entity at a public meeting

[54:05] that he or she desires.

[54:07] Advice concerning the litigation.

[54:09] The litigation that I'm referring to

[54:12] actually is two of them.

[54:14] One would be Saint Pete Beach advocacy

[54:18] group, et Al versus the City of Saint Pete Beach.

[54:21] They have sent me today this afternoon a letter

[54:28] with a settlement offer and I need

[54:32] to circulate that to you all.

[54:34] But in order for us to discuss it in an executive session,

[54:39] we need to schedule that.

[54:41] And as I said, I need to request that meeting

[54:45] here at a public meeting.

[54:47] The other development is red, white and blues versus

[54:52] City of Saint Pete Beach.

[54:53] That's relating to a cup conditional use permit.

[54:58] Defense counsel who is working on that with me

[55:02] has had some verbal discussions, I believe, with opposing

[55:06] counsel, and I'm hoping that maybe we can get something

[55:10] in writing officially from them by the time

[55:14] that we meet so that we can discuss

[55:17] both potential settlements and in an executive session.

[55:22] So I have spoken to defense counsel

[55:31] that the city is using for protect Saint Pete Beach

[55:36] advocacy group versus St Pete beach,

[55:38] and they have indicated to me that the best time would

[55:44] be the earliest would be on.

[55:49] I think it was February 6 that next week would be too quick.

[55:55] One of them was not available.

[55:58] And then on top of that, we need to also

[56:02] prepare for our own answer to that complaint.

[56:07] I will remind you or let you know that I had informed

[56:12] opposing counsel for that case a while ago when we scheduled

[56:18] this, the executive session that we had

[56:21] today, that we were having an executive session just

[56:24] so for the very reason that perhaps

[56:27] we could get her proposal earlier

[56:31] rather than this afternoon.

[56:33] So I'm suggesting that we have that executive session

[56:39] on the sixth.

[56:42] Definitely to talk about the protect Saint Pete Beach

[56:47] advocacy group case and hopefully

[56:50] the red, white and blues case as well.

[56:52]

[57:00] There's no way to make this sound good,

[57:02] but I would like to have it sooner.

[57:05] And the reason for this is because, you know, no offense

[57:09] to all the attorneys out there, but I've seen how they operate.

[57:12] The second you hand them something,

[57:13] they're like a dog with a bone and they go out

[57:16] and it's billable hours going forward.

[57:19] And I'm not saying that they're going

[57:20] to go out and spend hundreds hours in the next two weeks.

[57:23] I just they're going to go 100 miles an hour

[57:25] to prepare for this, prepare for that, do all this other stuff.

[57:28] We're going to spend a ton of money

[57:30] in the next two weeks versus if we try to do this concurrently

[57:34] and say, you know, what we talked about earlier was having

[57:37] a meeting much sooner, maybe within the next week, 10 days

[57:41] or so, so that we're not burning all

[57:44] of this capital on the defense if we come

[57:48] to some kind of resolution.

[57:50]

[57:53] And then again, I have no way of making that sound good.

[57:56] It's just I. I've seen it enough times where the second you hand

[58:01] an attorney something, they put every associate

[58:03] on it, every paralegal on it.

[58:05] Again, I don't that's what I would do because you're

[58:07] going to have to prepare.

[58:09] But you know, if we give them two weeks,

[58:10] we're going to get two weeks worth of billing.

[58:12] If we're going to give them a week,

[58:13] we're going to get the week's worth of billing.

[58:16] Well, I mean, I know that's your assumption.

[58:19] It's not necessarily the truth, but I'm just

[58:25] saying that what with conferring with them,

[58:27] I was told that the primary attorney assigned to this

[58:31] was not available starting the 31.

[58:36] And I believe that Commissioner was not available on the 30th.

[58:42] So the primary attorney that was assigned

[58:46] is not available from the 31 through the second.

[58:51] And quite frankly, that is a fairly quick turnaround.

[58:55] But if you want to have that executive session on the 30

[58:59] with me, happy to do it.

[59:02]

[59:05] I'll spend time and money preparing for it.

[59:08]

[59:10] Mayor, please go ahead.

[59:14] I kind of get what Adrian's saying,

[59:15] but I also know that I mean, they got a when they invoice,

[59:20] they're going to be saying what they're invoicing for.

[59:22] So with that, you can limit what I want to say limit.

[59:28] But if the hours for preparing for a meeting

[59:31] is going to be viewable.

[59:33] Right, we're going to see an invoice that

[59:34] says we're billing five hours to prepare for this meeting

[59:38] or review whatever.

[59:40] You know, I think we could kind of

[59:43] contain anything going crazy.

[59:46] know, we're not going to see the bill or the invoice

[59:48] until after we can give after the fact.

[59:50] Correct?

[59:52] maybe.

[59:53] I mean, if they know that we're going

[59:57] to have a meeting on the sixth.

[59:59] I mean, but we still understand that once a lawsuit is served,

[1:00:05] the mayor has been served.

[1:00:07] So the clock started.

[1:00:09] We have a certain amount of time to file something in court

[1:00:14] and that needs to be done and they need to do it.

[1:00:19] They're not going to schedule depositions.

[1:00:21] They're not going to schedule discovery.

[1:00:24] They're not going to schedule all the pre-trial things

[1:00:28] within a week.

[1:00:30] I think they're going to be focused

[1:00:32] on making sure that we timely file,

[1:00:35] what we're supposed to file.

[1:00:37] Starting from the time that the mayor

[1:00:39] was served with the lawsuit.

[1:00:40]

[1:00:43] And again, I'll remind you, I mean, they I specifically made

[1:00:48] it clear to opposing counsel that we're having

[1:00:51] this executive session so that we would get something

[1:00:54] in a timely manner if they were going to come up

[1:00:56] with something.

[1:00:57] You know, they chose to provide it to me this afternoon.

[1:01:02] And frankly, I don't feel comfortable.

[1:01:06] I mean, I, I gave you the synopsis of it,

[1:01:10] but I don't feel comfortable giving you legal advice on it

[1:01:14] right now.

[1:01:16] But I'll know, like I said, it's your will.

[1:01:20] I highly doubt that you're going to have an entire law

[1:01:24] firm working on this particular case between now

[1:01:29] and the sixth and billing, you know,

[1:01:33] an enormous amount of money.

[1:01:34] And remember, the half of it's almost half of it's

[1:01:38] covered by your insurance carrier

[1:01:40] anyway, maybe an in between.

[1:01:44] I mean, I'm looking at the calendar

[1:01:45] and I think we were first looking at the 31 and now

[1:01:49] maybe the sixth.

[1:01:50] The difference between those two things is 3 working days.

[1:01:54] So I don't know.

[1:01:56] When I look at that, I'm kind of the six

[1:01:58] seems to be a better compromise in my mind.

[1:02:01] It's not really a compromise.

[1:02:03] We're just agreeing on a date.

[1:02:05] But would you like to call it?

[1:02:06] It just seems like a good go between.

[1:02:10] Well, go between would be halfway,

[1:02:12] which would be like the 31 that would be accomplished.

[1:02:16] So again, I think as we had discussed earlier,

[1:02:21] I think it's prudent of us to move forward

[1:02:24] faster rather than slow.

[1:02:25] Two weeks seems slow to me.

[1:02:27] So what were you proposing?

[1:02:28] I must have missed it.

[1:02:30] I proposed as early as the 30th.

[1:02:33] Well, we already said that's a no go for a couple of us.

[1:02:36] Or for at least one of us.

[1:02:38] Yep and then apparently the other attorney is not

[1:02:40] available after the 31st, so.

[1:02:45] Is that correct?

[1:02:46] He's not available on the 31 and going forward

[1:02:48] until the sixth the second.

[1:02:50] I think that's what he said.

[1:02:52] And meeting with him, 31 to the second.

[1:02:58] He's not available.

[1:02:59] He's not available?

[1:03:00] No he's not available on the second

[1:03:03] or could he be available on the second?

[1:03:05] Oh, my God.

[1:03:05] I'm seriously.

[1:03:07] Why don't we just do it on the 30th and I'll advise you.

[1:03:10] You know, like, if.

[1:03:12] Yeah, if I. If I may be coming.

[1:03:13] A little frustrating to me, I think represent you

[1:03:16] as an attorney and, and to be pushed back

[1:03:18] on constantly to have a meeting on a serious issue

[1:03:22] and to rush it.

[1:03:23] So let's do it on the 30th and I'll

[1:03:28] give you the advice, Matthew.

[1:03:31] Yeah I was just going to say, the way the statute is laid out

[1:03:34] is this is a meeting that we are calling

[1:03:37] to talk to you about that we need to feel prepared for.

[1:03:40] And I can understand the urgency to do this,

[1:03:42] but this isn't a special meeting that we're setting to discuss

[1:03:46] a development or an ordinance.

[1:03:48] This is something that we are advising you we need to do.

[1:03:51] And I just think it's prudent that we're prepared.

[1:03:54] And we've just disclosed the fact

[1:03:56] that the attorneys that we just appointed are not available.

[1:03:59] So the 31 the first the second are not feasible dates.

[1:04:03] We can do it the week of the sixth or we can do it.

[1:04:07] Like we did today at 4:30 before the 13 meeting.

[1:04:10] But now miss Resnick is not available, then.

[1:04:13] But I just wanted to mention that because we

[1:04:15] need to be prepared as well.

[1:04:17] There's no point of having a meeting

[1:04:18] and not discussing anything.

[1:04:20] If I may, I think that I, as somebody who has worked

[1:04:28] for myself my whole life, I certainly understand the desire

[1:04:32] to once you decide to do something, to do it

[1:04:35] as quickly as possible and, you know, make a decision

[1:04:38] and move forward.

[1:04:40] I also think that once we've agreed to hire someone

[1:04:45] to act as our counsel, there has to be some amount of trust

[1:04:48] involved in that relationship.

[1:04:50] And if we're going to assume that they are.

[1:04:55] Just billing us for the most money they can to no good end.

[1:05:00] Then we probably shouldn't have hired them in the first place.

[1:05:04] And so I'm.

[1:05:06] Did you hear anyone say that they're going to be billing

[1:05:08] for no apparent reason at all, especially after they lecture

[1:05:11] this for 20 minutes on how time is of the essence

[1:05:15] and we need to move fast.

[1:05:16] And then the same people that told us they

[1:05:18] can move fast cannot move fast.

[1:05:20] I'd like to remind you that what we discussed

[1:05:22] in the executive session this was

[1:05:23] before the executive session started, just

[1:05:26] a friendly reminder.

[1:05:27] What was discussed in the executive session

[1:05:28] is not a public record and it was outside of the public.

[1:05:32] Thank you.

[1:05:34] So anyway, it's as the city attorney said,

[1:05:37] we're not going anywhere.

[1:05:39] So fifth, sixth, seventh, let's pick a date.

[1:05:43] Mayor, if I may, I mean, we're talking

[1:05:45] about a week difference.

[1:05:47] What I was trying to get at, Andrew,

[1:05:48] I was just trying to understand if the second was available

[1:05:51] or not.

[1:05:52] I think the sixth is a reasonable amount of time.

[1:05:55] I'm good with the sixth.

[1:05:58] I'm good with the sixth, too.

[1:05:59] Did he give a time?

[1:06:02] No, it's open.

[1:06:04] OK so do you all prefer mornings?

[1:06:09] Afternoon?

[1:06:11] 4:00, I think, is the earliest.

[1:06:13]

[1:06:16] Yeah, I'm good with that.

[1:06:19] All right.

[1:06:19] 4:00 on the sixth.

[1:06:23] Do we need a motion or do we just schedule it?

[1:06:26] You could just schedule it, but.

[1:06:27] All right.

[1:06:28] So we're going to schedule an executive session

[1:06:30] for February 6 at 4:00 PM.

[1:06:32]

[1:06:37] And the two items, I guess, will update the agenda

[1:06:40] once we figure out whether red, white

[1:06:42] and blues is going to be ready or not to have a conversation.

[1:06:44] Yep.

[1:06:45] OK.

[1:06:45] Hopefully we can do both, but we'll see.

[1:06:48] OK, easy enough.

[1:06:51] All right.

[1:06:51] Next we have action item 8 D. Sorry

[1:06:54] discussion item 8 D the February 22 meeting for the Cerrado.

[1:06:59] I think there's a discussion about the location.

[1:07:03] I think it's I believe it's February 21.

[1:07:07] 21st February 21.

[1:07:09] Yeah I've received some emails and just general

[1:07:12] concerns about having enough.

[1:07:16] Public viewing area seating available.

[1:07:20] Maybe city manager could comment on that.

[1:07:25] Sure just, you know, I being in February with the weather,

[1:07:29] we might not be able to have a TV set up outside,

[1:07:32] whether it be rain cold.

[1:07:33] So sure.

[1:07:35] Be glad to.

[1:07:37] Actually, we discussed this internally a couple of days

[1:07:41] ago back on the December 5 meeting.

[1:07:46] We had 57 seats available in here.

[1:07:50] Of course, we had other seats.

[1:07:51] You know, we have a maximum number of seats,

[1:07:54] but we had a certain number of seats for the applicant,

[1:07:56] certain the commission, but we did have

[1:07:58] 57 available seats in here.

[1:08:01] But then we also opened up the upstairs lobby as well as

[1:08:06] the upstairs large conference room,

[1:08:08] which gave us another 44 seats.

[1:08:11] So it gives us a total of 122 seats.

[1:08:15] And then of course, we had the outside area that we set up.

[1:08:19] And February is probably not going

[1:08:21] to be a good time to do that.

[1:08:23] But I was informed by the people who were actually working

[1:08:26] that area that the majority of those people, almost all

[1:08:30] of those people left after the first hour.

[1:08:32] They either migrated inside or left.

[1:08:35] We did go ahead and look at the other option

[1:08:40] that has been discussed in the past,

[1:08:42] which is the community center.

[1:08:44] And, you know, as we've discussed before,

[1:08:46] there's a lot of challenges to that.

[1:08:48] It's not set up for a public meeting

[1:08:49] as far as amplification, microphones,

[1:08:52] Zoom acoustics are a problem.

[1:08:56] But we did we did look to see what we would need

[1:08:59] to do if that was a decision or the direction

[1:09:02] we wanted to go in.

[1:09:04] We did find a company that could do

[1:09:06] all of the technical things that need to be done over there,

[1:09:10] which is pretty significant.

[1:09:12] But in order to really conduct a public meeting,

[1:09:16] the way it needs to be conducted, provide

[1:09:18] for the zoom, provide for the recording,

[1:09:21] everything we would need to the cost is around $8,000

[1:09:25] to do that for that one meeting.

[1:09:28] So we followed that up with our staff going

[1:09:31] over looking at the maximum capacity of that room,

[1:09:35] did the same thing.

[1:09:36] We did in here, looked at how much room would be taken up

[1:09:40] for that equipment that would have to come in,

[1:09:42] how much room would be taken up to some kind of a portable dais

[1:09:46] as well as podium.

[1:09:48] And where we ended up with that was we

[1:09:54] would have approximately 120 seats

[1:09:57] available in that facility.

[1:09:59] So we really don't gain any seats by moving over there.

[1:10:03] And the other problem with that is it

[1:10:05] would really be two days of disruption

[1:10:08] for that facility, which is that's the time of year.

[1:10:11] It's used a lot.

[1:10:13] But, you know, they would have to have one day for the company

[1:10:16] to come in to Setup everything up the following day.

[1:10:18] They would have to be demobilizing.

[1:10:20] So there's really not a big there's not

[1:10:25] any benefit of actually trying to move over

[1:10:27] there and spend that $8,000.

[1:10:30] And so, you know, my recommendation

[1:10:32] is we do exactly what we did with the last meeting

[1:10:34] except for the outside.

[1:10:37] And we could at the last minute, if we

[1:10:40] see that it's going to be good weather, we could, you know,

[1:10:43] put something out there for any type of overflow.

[1:10:46] But that's my recommendation.

[1:10:48]

[1:10:56] Well, it kind of makes sense to me.

[1:11:00] I don't see the bang from the buck

[1:11:02] they're spending $8,000 for.

[1:11:05] And I can kind of see a lot of technical glitches occurring

[1:11:08] and it just being kind of a strange setup.

[1:11:10] And if we also do that, we're kind

[1:11:12] of setting the marker for every time there's a large action

[1:11:14] item, we got to go spend another 8,000

[1:11:17] to move everybody over there each time.

[1:11:18] So I'm not saying it's worth all that extra money and effort.

[1:11:22]

[1:11:28] I tend to agree with that.

[1:11:30] I'd say I'd certainly be prepared

[1:11:32] to put a TV outside in the event the weather may be great.

[1:11:36] So I'd certainly do that.

[1:11:38] We can do that.

[1:11:39] We are.

[1:11:40] We already figured out how to do it.

[1:11:42] So we could move quickly if the weather was OK for that.

[1:11:46] Can I ask also, since we did do this already before, we've

[1:11:51] already looked at any of the glitches

[1:11:52] that might have happened before and are able to address it.

[1:11:55] So it doesn't happen in the future.

[1:11:57] So are there any processes in place

[1:12:00] to make it more efficient for public comment or.

[1:12:03] You know, there is a delay.

[1:12:05] I know because I've been in the lobby,

[1:12:07] there's a delay in what's being said here.

[1:12:11] But it's like, what, maybe two minutes?

[1:12:13] Three minutes?

[1:12:13] I'm not sure what the delay is, but there is a delay

[1:12:16] when you're in the lobby.

[1:12:17] I don't know if it's more so out in the parking lot.

[1:12:20] But yeah, there is a slight delay, you know, from that.

[1:12:24] But it didn't seem to cause a problem with,

[1:12:26] with conducting the business.

[1:12:29]

[1:12:40] So unless there's any other ideas or discussion on it,

[1:12:43] you know, I would just suggest we move forward with that plan.

[1:12:47]

[1:12:50] Thank you.

[1:12:50]

[1:13:04] All right, next, we have item 9 C. City clerk.

[1:13:12] Yes Thank you, mayor.

[1:13:13] So I have a couple of things.

[1:13:15] The first thing is, so I and my staff

[1:13:20] do a telecommuting from time to time based on scheduling

[1:13:24] and 1 to two days a week.

[1:13:26] And there is a form to authorize that.

[1:13:30] And because you guys are all my supervisor,

[1:13:33] I was going to ask if there's consensus to allow the mayor

[1:13:36] to sign the authorization for my telecommuting 1 to two days

[1:13:40] a week as schedule allows.

[1:13:43] And to sign Jenny, deputy city clerk Jenny Botkin

[1:13:46] and administrative assistant Ariana Wilson

[1:13:49] to do the same as schedule allows.

[1:13:52] And of course, if there's any other issue that may arise,

[1:13:55] but it's always communicated to you,

[1:13:57] if there's a long term issue, a week or two, that might occur.

[1:14:02] So if I have no objection, I'll just

[1:14:04] take that as a consensus to allow

[1:14:06] the mayor to sign those forms.

[1:14:10] If I could piggyback onto that, if you don't mind.

[1:14:13] So I'd also, in addition to that, so the prior commission

[1:14:22] well, first of all, I report to the commission, the manager

[1:14:27] reports to the commission and the clerk reports

[1:14:28] to the commission.

[1:14:29] So in order to get these types of things approved,

[1:14:32] we have to do it this way.

[1:14:34] But you know, what I would ask in addition

[1:14:39] to the telecommuting, is to authorize the mayor to work

[1:14:43] with the clerk as needed.

[1:14:46] You know, she obviously works late

[1:14:50] into the night on a lot of different things

[1:14:52] and has flex time, has, you know, different things.

[1:14:58] And so she has.

[1:14:59] And in order to accommodate the time off that she needs coming

[1:15:02] up when she has a personal medical issue that,

[1:15:07] you know, instead of having to raise it here

[1:15:10] every time at the commission that you authorize the mayor

[1:15:14] just to work directly with her to accommodate that, you know,

[1:15:17] so that she's got the appropriate and necessary

[1:15:21] amount of time to deal with the things

[1:15:24] that she has to deal with.

[1:15:28] Yeah Thank you.

[1:15:31] Thank you, Andrew.

[1:15:31] Yep the only other thing I wanted to mention was I

[1:15:34] updated the city's general website to discuss

[1:15:39] the August special election.

[1:15:41] So that is uploaded onto the city clerk's page

[1:15:45] and there will be an advertisement in the newspaper

[1:15:47] in April 2nd as required by statute to announce

[1:15:51] the same and one qualification books are ready

[1:15:53] and as required by our code.

[1:15:55] That is something that must be purchased

[1:15:57] prior to running for office.

[1:16:00] And I also updated that there will

[1:16:02] be no city municipal election.

[1:16:04] I understand that there is still a primary presidential primary,

[1:16:08] but that is not a city.

[1:16:10] So I've had a few questions about that.

[1:16:12] The polling locations will be open, both Warren

[1:16:15] Webster and community center.

[1:16:17] But again, that has nothing to do with me or you.

[1:16:20] All that is solely based on the supervisor of elections

[1:16:23] and based on whatever party someone's affiliated with.

[1:16:26] So that's been updated as well.

[1:16:28] Amber, just to note, I think the Warren Webster is still closed.

[1:16:34] It's we are opening it for the they're going to do

[1:16:37] it for the primary in March.

[1:16:38] And we have a contract with the supervisor of elections.

[1:16:42] So yes, seven a to 0.07 pounds and that's all I have.

[1:16:47] Thank you.

[1:16:48] You included a fourth, did you?

[1:16:53] Yeah Thank you.

[1:16:54] So for all the new commissioners,

[1:16:57] we do lobbyist reporting and you've seen the emails

[1:17:01] with the registrations for 2024 copy of the fillable log

[1:17:06] to keep track of that report is due by these individuals listed

[1:17:11] minus the ex commissioners every quarter

[1:17:15] at the end of every quarter.

[1:17:16] And a reminder, email goes out with another blank attachment,

[1:17:20] a reminder of who is registered and a due date of the tenth

[1:17:23] of the following month.

[1:17:25] So these were the fourth quarter.

[1:17:27] End of the quarter was December 31.

[1:17:29] Filers were requested to turn in a report or an email

[1:17:32] stating none by January 10th.

[1:17:36] And so I prepare my office, prepares

[1:17:37] a report for your reviews at a commission meeting

[1:17:40] soon thereafter.

[1:17:41] And I only send one reminder.

[1:17:44] I don't I don't keep going.

[1:17:46] So you see what you see.

[1:17:48]

[1:17:50] Do you mind if I can just piggyback on that real quick?

[1:17:53] To all the lobbyists who registered that are watching

[1:17:56] this at the first of the year, you're

[1:17:58] required to reregister, pay a new fee,

[1:18:00] fill in a new application.

[1:18:02] I have told as many attorneys as I can as a kind reminder,

[1:18:05] but if you were a lobbyist last year,

[1:18:07] you're required to file another application as of January 1st

[1:18:10] this year.

[1:18:11]

[1:18:15] I think we need to add a discussion

[1:18:17] to the next commission meeting about this

[1:18:22] because I'm looking at the city clerk sent

[1:18:25] me a copy at my request of the Q3 report as well.

[1:18:30] And this is extremely.

[1:18:34] Distressing that we have at the moment.

[1:18:38] Two board members on the planning board.

[1:18:41] Now, these are the individuals who

[1:18:43] hear all the cup applications.

[1:18:47] We did not fill out Q3 report still,

[1:18:51] and they still haven't filled out Q4 report.

[1:18:54] Now, these are individuals who are hearing,

[1:18:57] you know, at hearings directly from lobbyists in their.

[1:19:01] And we have no idea who you're talking

[1:19:03] to because you're not filling out a simple report that

[1:19:05] takes two seconds.

[1:19:07] And I think the commissioners need to look I'll

[1:19:12] look at my appointees as well.

[1:19:14] And especially the repeat offenders.

[1:19:17] I mean, that's.

[1:19:18] Six months.

[1:19:20] You can fill out the report.

[1:19:22] Come on.

[1:19:23] These these are grounds for removal.

[1:19:25] I think.

[1:19:25] And this is a discussion I think we need to have

[1:19:27] about those individuals.

[1:19:28] Because you're now actively violating a city ordinance.

[1:19:33] OK, that's fine.

[1:19:33] I can add that.

[1:19:34] And then I'll go ahead and add all

[1:19:36] of the supporting documentation for 2023,

[1:19:39] all reports quarter one through quarter four.

[1:19:40] So you can see consistency.

[1:19:43]

[1:19:46] Thank you, city clerk.

[1:19:49] City manager.

[1:19:49]

[1:19:55] Wayne anything?

[1:19:56] No, Thank you.

[1:19:57] All right.

[1:19:58] She's looking at my notes.

[1:19:59] Make sure you just.

[1:20:00] You just shocked by the time that we have on the clock.

[1:20:05] City attorney?

[1:20:07] No, sir.

[1:20:08] Enough for one night.

[1:20:10] Done enough damage for one night.

[1:20:13] All right.

[1:20:14] District four.

[1:20:15] Yes Thank you, mayor.

[1:20:16] A couple of things.

[1:20:18] First of all, there's a planning board vacancy.

[1:20:21] Melinda Pletcher resigned about a week or so ago,

[1:20:24] so we're actively recruiting for a replacement on that.

[1:20:28] So I guess the way it works is let

[1:20:30] me know when the other commissioners

[1:20:31] know if you're interested.

[1:20:34] So we hope we can get that filled with the consent

[1:20:37] of my fellow commissioners.

[1:20:40] The trash pickup issue for pass-a-grille that you're all

[1:20:44] very familiar with by now is just getting hotter

[1:20:46] and hotter from the residents.

[1:20:48] So what I'd like to do is on the 13th,

[1:20:53] add that to the agenda to have another presentation

[1:20:56] by either the city manager or Mike Clark

[1:21:00] to give us an update on where we're at with that.

[1:21:02] And I'm hoping there's some kind of partial interim solution

[1:21:06] wrapped into that so we can get that at least partially

[1:21:09] solved along the way here.

[1:21:12] The other thing is dog park, for those listening at Hurley park

[1:21:16] has been torn apart.

[1:21:18] They're putting in irrigation and they're

[1:21:20] going to give grass a try.

[1:21:21] So we'll see how that all goes.

[1:21:23] But that's actively happening right now.

[1:21:25] They should be done with that within a week.

[1:21:26] I'd say kudos to Jennifer and Mandy.

[1:21:30] I hope I got the right department.

[1:21:31] Parks and rec, the sand that's been overflowing

[1:21:35] the seawall between first and 4th Avenue and pass-a-grille

[1:21:39] said dog park.

[1:21:40] It's gotten really bad.

[1:21:41] I mean, it looks like winter out there.

[1:21:43] It's just blowing in drifts across the street.

[1:21:45] And I think the folks from parks and recs

[1:21:48] have already started putting up 4 by 4s with wooden planks

[1:21:52] to keep that sand at Bay until they can

[1:21:54] come up with a better solution.

[1:21:56] So my compliments to them for listening to our problems

[1:22:00] with that and the residents down in pass-a-grille with that.

[1:22:03] Lastly, I am going to hold on 7th February, kind of a meet

[1:22:08] and greet for district four residents at Hurley park,

[1:22:12] so that'll be between 5 and 6 PM I'm going to try and do it

[1:22:16] the first and third Wednesday of each month.

[1:22:19] But for February 21st, we all know

[1:22:22] we're here, so that won't be happening that date,

[1:22:24] but that'll be at Hurley park between 5 and 6 PM

[1:22:27] and we'll put that out on some kind

[1:22:29] of announcement with the city clerk's assistance.

[1:22:33] That's all I have.

[1:22:34] Thank you, mayor.

[1:22:34] Thank you.

[1:22:35] District three.

[1:22:37] Yes so a couple of meetings from my district

[1:22:42] that are up and coming, one being the annual meeting

[1:22:45] for the neighborhood, which is February 13 at 6:00

[1:22:49] PM the Lido association also reached out to do

[1:22:54] very similar meet and greets.

[1:22:56] So I've had different neighborhoods reaching out.

[1:22:59] Maybe I should have done one and do everybody.

[1:23:02] But so I do have that one for and it's not

[1:23:06] confirmed most definitely, because I know they're

[1:23:08] going to get back to me.

[1:23:09] But they did give me the February 15 date just for those

[1:23:12] who are listening, maybe you could

[1:23:14] reach out to your Association President to verify the date.

[1:23:20] I haven't spoken with anyone from Belle vista yet,

[1:23:22] but I know I've had some residents

[1:23:24] asking me the same thing.

[1:23:25] So for now, I think that would be the best way is probably

[1:23:29] to coordinate it with the meetings

[1:23:31] that the neighborhoods are holding.

[1:23:34] So I can meet you all.

[1:23:38] I just wanted to put out this for Because I know there's

[1:23:41] several neighborhoods, including Belle vista and residents,

[1:23:44] not to mention in Lido, because I've met with a couple who have

[1:23:47] a lot of concern about flooding, especially

[1:23:49] with the last storms.

[1:23:50] And me, myself, as a resident, I'm

[1:23:52] concerned about flooding in less than 12 months,

[1:23:58] many neighborhoods flooded significantly

[1:24:01] impacting infrastructure.

[1:24:04] I know so in the Don Cesar haven't had any response yet

[1:24:08] back but just know that I am aware of it

[1:24:11] and that I am going to try to help in that situation.

[1:24:16] For for those of you who are experiencing that, because it

[1:24:19] is pretty significant what's been

[1:24:21] happening as far as infrastructure falling apart.

[1:24:23] And then I just wanted to give a kudos out to the save the dunes

[1:24:29] group because I did participate at their meeting that was held

[1:24:33] in Don vista, and I know they already went out to district 4

[1:24:36] and worked on the beaches.

[1:24:38] But I think it's really nice that another city, treasure

[1:24:41] island, was able to work with a group

[1:24:43] here in our city to pass along the idea of helping the city

[1:24:49] and helping the dunes, which is the removal of exotic or

[1:24:51] invasive species in our dune system.

[1:24:53] And it was a great presentation.

[1:24:57] And I know if we reach out maybe to Jennifer,

[1:24:59] I'm just putting you out there, Jennifer, in the city

[1:25:02] that you could pass along that information.

[1:25:04] I don't know if it's posted right now on the website,

[1:25:07] but they meet on Fridays for one hour.

[1:25:11] And what you can get in one hour and then move on, right.

[1:25:14] And then meet again in the next Friday.

[1:25:16] So it's a slow process.

[1:25:17] If you've ever been weeding and gardening, it is slow,

[1:25:19] but it will be really nice, you know,

[1:25:23] to get some of that saved.

[1:25:24] So they did a lot of work in pass a grille not too long

[1:25:27] ago removing fountain grass.

[1:25:29] So I put it out there because education and information

[1:25:33] is important because a lot of these invasives

[1:25:36] are because we love how some of these plants

[1:25:38] look like in our home, not realizing

[1:25:40] how much it's spreading seeds all over the place.

[1:25:43] And it's not supposed to be there.

[1:25:44] So get involved because it's out there.

[1:25:46] So thank you.

[1:25:47] Thank you.

[1:25:49] District two.

[1:25:50] Yes just wanted to remind everyone,

[1:25:53] there's a town Hall for district two

[1:25:56] this Thursday at 5:30 and commission chambers.

[1:26:00] The agenda is posted online.

[1:26:02] There also will be a link to view it

[1:26:06] digitally if you can't make it.

[1:26:10] City manager qu and public works director

[1:26:12] will be there to comment on some of the items on the agenda.

[1:26:18] And also I wanted to comment on the event

[1:26:23] Friday that the fire department put on for the pushing

[1:26:27] of their new truck.

[1:26:28] The mayor was there as well, did a really nice job with that.

[1:26:32] And I know mark, our communications manager,

[1:26:34] did a good job advertising and putting

[1:26:37] up some pictures of that.

[1:26:38] And I encourage our residents to attend

[1:26:41] those events in the future.

[1:26:44] That's it.

[1:26:45] Thank you.

[1:26:46] District one.

[1:26:47] Yeah Thank you.

[1:26:49] So I'd like to officially welcome

[1:26:51] my appointee to the beach stewardship committee.

[1:26:54] Brad Panek is a local guy who's both a resident in district

[1:26:59] one, and he also has a business in district one and a small kid

[1:27:06] and really invested in the community.

[1:27:08] And so I think he's going to be a great asset to the city,

[1:27:11] and I'm proud to have him be my appointee to the beach

[1:27:13] stewardship committee.

[1:27:15] I also wanted to mention that I've had several residents

[1:27:17] reach out to me as well in district one about flooding,

[1:27:20] because in our neighborhood, even though sometimes we think

[1:27:23] we're the high spot on the beach,

[1:27:25] we still have, you know, some blocks from 73rd to 80th or so

[1:27:31] where people have had water in their houses

[1:27:34] a couple times this year.

[1:27:37] And I've had a couple residents ask if we wanted if we would

[1:27:40] consider or if there was some thought to creating a citizen

[1:27:44] flood advisory board to look at those issues

[1:27:47] and to, you know, a group of citizens who can help us

[1:27:51] keep track of those things and, you know,

[1:27:54] help come up with solutions and that sort of thing.

[1:27:55] So I don't know if that might be something that we might

[1:27:57] want to address in the future.

[1:28:00] And that's all I've got.

[1:28:01] Thanks great.

[1:28:02] Thank you.

[1:28:03] Thank you, everyone, for coming tonight.

[1:28:05] We are adjourned.

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