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[0:01] Let us pray. Heavenly Father, uh we come to you tonight just to say thank you for
[0:05] letting us serve. I hope you give us the wisdom and knowledge and capability to
[0:10] make good decisions for the town. Uh since this is a political meeting, I
[0:15] just want to take a moment to to just wish that you would put your hand on us.
[0:19] I know the last few weeks have been very decisive in our uh larger community and
[0:25] I just want you to take care of everybody. Uh just uh remember to to
[0:31] love our neighbors wherever they may be. >> Uh I with that uh pray these things in
[0:39] your son's holy name, Jesus Christ. Amen.
[0:42] » Amen. >> Let's do the pledge of allegiance.
[0:45] » I pledge >> pledge of allegiance
[0:47] » to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it
[0:52] stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice
[0:58] for all.
[1:02] [clears throat]
[1:06] » Call this meeting to order. [snorts] First on the agenda,
[1:11] Chief Franks. Little presentation, please.
[1:14] » Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um, I'd like to call up Officer Jacob Grimes up
[1:18] here. Um, as you all know, uh, we like to recognize our police officers when
[1:23] they, uh, do great things for our community, and this is one of those.
[1:28] Tonight, I'd like to recognize Officer Grimes for a life-saving award. And I'm
[1:32] going to read the memo. I think it, although it's a little cumbersome, it it
[1:35] it says everything. Uh, the Stallings [clears throat] Police Department
[1:38] believes in recognition of officers and their actions and service to the
[1:42] community. In keeping with this belief, the Stallings Police Department
[1:44] recognizes Officer Jacob Grimes for measures taken to save a life that
[1:48] occurred on December 13th, 2025. [snorts] On that date, Grimes responded
[1:54] to Atrium Hospital at 3 about 3:40 in the morning regarding a dog bite. Upon
[1:59] arrival, he found a victim who had been bitten by a dog and subsequently had his
[2:02] arm broken. Um, the victim related to Grimes that his mother had also been
[2:06] bitten, but he had left her at the residence. Um, Officer Grimes made the
[2:11] decision to go to the house to check on this elderly woman. When he got there,
[2:14] he found her uh or he heard an elderly woman uh calling for help from inside
[2:19] the garage. Um, Grimes made entry in the garage and located an elderly female on
[2:24] the floor who'd been bleeding heavily and he realized that her foot had been
[2:27] delved by the dog. Uh recognizing severe blood loss and injury along with the
[2:32] fact that the female victim is sitting in the cold for unknown period of time
[2:35] uh officer Grimes made the immediate decision to transport her to the
[2:38] hospital here in Stallings. Uh due to her injuries, he picked her up and had
[2:42] to carry her to his squad car as time was of the essence and place her inside
[2:46] the car. Upon arrival of the hospital, the female victim was stabilized and
[2:50] later transferred to Charlotte Hospital for potential amputation of her foot. Uh
[2:55] and she is still currently in the hospital. Officer Grimes demonstrated
[2:59] exceptional judgment, professionalism, and dedication to the preservation of
[3:03] life. Had it not been for the decisive actions taken by Officer Grimes, the
[3:06] victim would have succumbed to her injuries due to the continued blood loss
[3:10] and shock. His actions reflect the highest standards of law enforcement
[3:13] service and brings credit himself and the Stallings Police Department. And his
[3:17] actions such as this and his sense of duty that helps continue to make our
[3:20] community a safer place to work and live. So, I ask everybody to uh
[3:24] congratulate him for a job well done. >> [applause]
[3:34] [applause] >> Officer Grimes will have a certificate
[3:37] and the memorandum of his actions that night and he will receive a life-saving
[3:41] ribbon uh to put on his uniform. So, Jacob, congratulations. Thank you.
[3:46] » Absolutely.
[3:51] » Stand up. >> Come on over.
[3:55] [clears throat] He always looks so happy. [laughter]
[4:07] » You're in it.
[4:12] [clears throat] >> Congrats.
[4:19] Next up, we have public comments. The only person that signed up is
[4:24] Clarence Alselbrooks. Hello, Clarence. >> Of course, that's going to be hard to
[4:30] follow, but all right. Um, good evening, mayor and
[4:35] council. My name is Clarence Als Brooks, Jr. I'm not a resident of Stalins, but I
[4:40] uh come with a disclaimer. I'm a resident of Indian Trail. My disclaimer
[4:44] is that I am also a council member in Indian Trail. So, my um my comments may
[4:50] not necessarily reflect um or represent the town of Indian Trail. My statements
[4:56] and opinions are my own and um [clears throat]
[5:00] are my own. First, I'd like to congratulate your new mayor of Stalins.
[5:04] You are the right person for the job and Stalins is blessed to have you.
[5:09] Congratulations to Graham and Mayor Pro Tim Richardson. Um Stalins is known for
[5:15] its excellence with civility on this board and I hope that you all work hard
[5:21] to continue that. Um, I actually grew up in Indian Trail back when Indian Trail
[5:25] was only 2,000 citizens. Back then, Stalins and Indian Trail were pretty
[5:29] much one big community. As a matter of fact, I still have a lot of family
[5:33] members and friends here in Stalins. With that said, I hope that Stalins and
[5:38] Indian Trail can work together to make the western part of Union County a
[5:42] better place. Also, with that said, tonight is my today is my wedding
[5:47] anniversary, so I'm going to leave here so I can take my wife out. So,
[5:51] [laughter] >> um, but with that, seriously, I, uh, you
[5:54] know, I enjoy coming to your meetings, know most of you, hopefully to get to
[5:59] know the rest of you. You have a great town attorney, um, along with everybody
[6:04] else. So, um, I hope that we can work together in the future. So,
[6:09] » y'all, thank you.
[6:11] » All right, I want to introduce you to our two newest members, Mike Cousins and
[6:16] John Vandere. >> Nice to meet you.
[6:18] » Thanks for being here. Someone just shake their hand.
[6:20] » Sure. >> Happy anniversary. [laughter]
[6:23] » Happy anniversary.
[6:29] [clears throat]
[6:32] » These are Clarence was the only one that signed up ahead of time, but if there's
[6:35] anyone else that would like to speak, this is public comments if you would
[6:39] like to speak. All right,
[6:44] moving on to the consent agenda.
[6:50] May I move approval of the consent agenda A through D?
[6:54] » I'll second. [snorts]
[6:57] All in favor? >> I.
[7:00] [clears throat] >> Excellent. That passes.
[7:03] Reports. Reports from the mayor.
[7:08] Been a quiet month. My holidays kept things kind of quiet, but um I did have
[7:15] met with a number of constituents. wanted to get together and talk about
[7:18] individual projects and um I met the uh president of sale ethics which is the
[7:24] building up on Stallings Road that's being built and they are excited to be
[7:28] moving into Stallings under one roof. They currently have about five or six uh
[7:34] on a campus over in Matthews and they're looking forward to having like I said
[7:38] one one building. He's looking very much forward to uh coming into Stallings and
[7:44] hope to meet him here, bring him into a council meeting and introduce him to the
[7:47] rest of y'all. That's all for the mayor.
[7:52] » Pam, anything? >> No, sir.
[7:55] » I've got two quick things. Um, one was we had a great uh town holiday party
[8:00] last week. So, uh, want to thank uh the staff for putting that on. It was really
[8:03] nice. Uh, the mayor uh allowed me to call a round of bingo, which I
[8:07] appreciated. Um although I'm nervous speaking in front of crowds so it was a
[8:11] little bit different for [laughter] me. Um and second was uh John and I attended
[8:15] a resident led meeting yesterday at the Shannara HOA regarding the conditional
[8:19] zoning um for Stevens Village at the corner of Stevens Mill and Idle Wild. We
[8:24] were there two and a half hours or so. Um it was really well done. Jeannie
[8:28] Lindsay, who's a resident of Shannara, put that on and it was a great way to uh
[8:32] share information for folks who were not up to speed on everything that was going
[8:35] on and uh for John and I to help answer some questions and uh get some new
[8:39] questions that we're going to find answers to as well.
[8:43] » John, he didn't leave much for you, but >> No, I'll agree with
[8:48] » um No, nothing. >> Nope. No, thank you. Uh it's been a
[8:53] quiet month. Nothing. >> All right. All right.
[8:57] Agenda approval. Mayor,
[9:00] » if you don't mind, I have I have several things to report on.
[9:04] » Uh so again, want to echo the sentiments of Council Member Cousins. Thank you to
[9:08] the council for your support and all the all the staff that went there and
[9:11] Ununice for you and your team's work on that. Thank you. Um got the budget uh in
[9:16] transfer list uh for y'all's consideration. It's front of you. You
[9:20] don't need to make any decision, but it's more like a report. Um
[9:25] secondly, the board last time expressed an openness to doing a team building
[9:30] exercise with our new board members, our new board as a whole. Um just trying to
[9:35] kind of grow and bond uh for the betterment of the [clears throat] town.
[9:39] Uh the board asked for a couple things. One, didn't want it to go anywhere far
[9:43] and wanted to keep the cost low. Uh if if we could do it for free, that'd be
[9:49] the preference. So, uh, with Chief Franks's help, we're able to secure the,
[9:54] uh, Matthews Police Department's police simulator, training simulator, uh, think
[9:59] like, uh, uh, if a virtual reality video game grew up, got a job, and, uh, it's
[10:06] very impressive, um, training process. So, it'd be a good, I think, bonding
[10:11] experience for y'all to go through that together, and also learn about some of
[10:15] the split decisions our police officers have to make. So, um, is is anyone
[10:20] opposed to that? How does that sound to y'all? Open to it. Okay. If everybody's
[10:24] good with that, then we'll send out some dates and try to get something that
[10:28] works for the most people. Uh, also, one thing you'll notice is uh, one of the
[10:33] initiatives we're trying to make here internally is try really bring up the
[10:38] appearances of our facilities both from a cleanliness standpoint and an
[10:42] appearances. We've had storm water issues out back. You'll notice now
[10:45] there's some enhanced landscaping planning eventually. I would love to do
[10:48] that out front to really set the tone for our citizens and for our developers
[10:52] of the expectations we have here at the town. And also we've tried to expand our
[10:59] um our contractor list of various janitorial janitorial work. So we're
[11:04] going to work on that and hopefully that addresses and brings it up to the
[11:07] standards that we would like. Um so that concludes uh staff's report. Appreciate
[11:12] your time. Any other staff,
[11:17] [cough] [clears throat]
[11:18] » Alex? Any other staff? >> Yes, sir.
[11:21] » All right. Um, agenda approval. >> I do have we received a request, mayor,
[11:27] uh, from the developer regarding the Mil Creek uh, regarding the the process and
[11:31] wanting to do the presentation earlier in the agenda. Um, the applicant is here
[11:36] if you'd like to hear from them from their request.
[11:40] » They're first down here. >> They're next. I believe they have a
[11:43] request to to hear uh have the presentation done uh prior to the
[11:49] decision on annexation, but they're here. I'll defer to them with their
[11:53] request. >> Well, I think our normal procedure is
[11:57] the annexation always goes first, >> followed by the presentation of the
[12:01] project. And I don't think we need to add that to our agenda this evening or a
[12:06] change in our agenda this evening. Let's proceed
[12:10] as is.
[12:13] I move that we approve the agenda as noted.
[12:18] » I'll second. >> All in favor?
[12:22] » I. [snorts] >> All right. Next up, annexation 58 Mil
[12:29] Creek. >> Yes. Um, Mayor Shaw, um, this is an
[12:34] annexation for a 12.571 acre parcel on Highway 74. council will be most
[12:41] familiar with it near the cookout and Starbucks on Highway 74 in Indian Trail.
[12:46] It's right on the edge of that. This is the final step in annexation where you
[12:51] will adopt the ordinance that extends Stalling's boundaries. We just need to
[12:57] open the public hearing, see if there's anyone here to speak on that, close it,
[13:00] and then council can speak on whether or not you want to annex that parcel into
[13:04] the town. >> All righty. So, I'll open the public
[13:07] hearing. Anybody that would like to speak on this this annexation?
[13:17] Well, one more time. No. All right. I'll close
[13:22] the public hearing and uh move to council discussion. Lori, would you like
[13:27] to lead us off? >> Um,
[13:31] yeah. I you know I [clears throat] was thinking a lot about um what our our
[13:36] role here is and we should be working to benefit the town
[13:43] to make the town better and I I don't see how this annexation
[13:49] fits into um making it better. I I mean I'm
[13:55] talking a little bit about the um site plan also, but
[14:01] you know what we're trying to do what we're trying to achieve is have less um
[14:07] residential and more commercial. And when something like this comes along,
[14:14] it it doesn't make any sense to me, especially that it's on Route 74 that,
[14:19] you know, is mainly commercial except for, you know, a couple residents across
[14:25] the street. Um, so I I'm feeling that I'm feeling
[14:31] negative about this project, about the annexation
[14:36] because it it's not going to benefit anybody in the town or the town.
[14:40] » Okay. [clears throat] >> Itself,
[14:43] » anybody else?
[14:47] » Mayor, what's the staff? What's the what's the requested
[14:53] annexation and what's the surrounding annexual
[14:57] [clears throat]
[15:01] 74?
[15:05] » So the requested is >> the the request is just well first you
[15:10] just >> I'm sorry we're not talking zoning we're
[15:12] just talking >> yes sir we're just talking about
[15:14] annexing the parcel into the town. >> Now withdraw my question. Well, wait a
[15:17] minute. I thought when we annex something in, it does come in with a
[15:21] zoning attached to it. >> That's what we're they're asking to.
[15:35] » Okay. But for that brief sliver of moment as we move from four to five, it
[15:42] gets some type of prezoning effectively.
[15:57] Okay. Okay.
[16:07] Any other comments? I tend to lean toward um what Lori was
[16:13] thinking as well is that um upon introduction to the project, you know,
[16:18] it's kind of like if you're walking down the street and you find $20 on the
[16:20] ground, you go, "Oh, this is great. We didn't have this before. We have it
[16:23] now." Um but thinking more about the surrounding area, the difficulty of
[16:28] getting in and out of there. Um and the fact that as Lori said as well, it's
[16:35] more residential than commercial. Um, so it would be an easy thing to say yes to.
[16:40] Um, I think without deep consideration, but thinking about it more, I don't know
[16:44] that it aligns with what we want to do. >> I think that's I'll just say it real
[16:50] quick. I mean, I think that's it is that I mean, you kind of look at our
[16:54] strategic goals and uh I think that's ultimately the problem. We all know here
[17:00] that we're currently out of sync when it comes to a ratio between commercial,
[17:06] industrial, and um residential. And with the limited capacity of sewer on this
[17:15] side of town, uh this this particular project would eat up most of that
[17:19] available sewer or and even the new sewer allocation that potentially is
[17:24] coming to us for the 74 corridor. And I'm just not sure it it aligns best to
[17:30] our goals to use that sewer capacity for a project that of this nature.
[17:39] » There again, we're talking use, not annexation. That's the complicated
[17:42] things. And I assume maybe that's why the developer wanted to or the applicant
[17:46] wanted to do the presentation. [clears throat]
[17:48] I guess the question would be is the landowner here?
[17:52] » Landowner is not here. So the question would be to the landowner.
[17:57] Oh, sorry. >> I guess my my question was is the land
[18:00] owner here and would the land owner like to be annexed into the town of Stylings?
[18:05] Um, and
[18:08] » I can speak on behalf of land owner in this capacity if I'm able to.
[18:13] » Well, I guess the question is would you like to be annexed into the town of
[18:16] Stylings if um what seems like the Can I address an audience? I'm not sure what
[18:22] protocol is, but if the council looks like we're proposed to say no to the uh
[18:28] use, um [clears throat] would you like to be annexed into the town?
[18:33] » I think they go together. That's why there's got
[18:39] no
[18:43] reason. >> Okay,
[18:48] then I'll [snorts] make the motion to deny the annexation. Well, I did have a
[18:51] comment. I >> Yeah, I think that's it's pretty obvious
[18:53] what's happening. So, go ahead. >> Oh, I just wanted to say uh regard
[18:58] without [clears throat] getting into the use, I
[19:02] my position is that I I recently drove this I go over this area a lot for
[19:09] trivia and that section of road is not conducive to pulling out. I just my
[19:16] concern is anything that we add in that regardless of use. Uh anything that's
[19:22] added there, it's going to create more congestion. It's going to potentially
[19:26] create accidents. And I don't see how that adds value to our town when we've
[19:30] annexed a lot of properties. So my my position is I think I would be
[19:36] against the annexation for that those reasons regardless of whatever the use
[19:42] it would be. based on Brad's question to the land
[19:48] owner to the representative the land owner that if the board was not inclined
[19:53] to approve the subsequent action on the CZ that we would be doing a disservice
[19:57] to the land owner in annexation. So for that I would
[20:04] that we do not
[20:07] » All right. So there's Can I ask one question?
[20:11] » I don't know. Well, >> I'm not you're not known for only asking
[20:14] one question >> that ask as many questions as you guys
[20:19] want. that is I mean and I might not
[20:25] this may not be a good question so you may need to shut me down but I mean I
[20:30] know that there's been discussions about this project now for several months and
[20:37] there's been discussions in committee and within the staff about the fact that
[20:42] this project probably was not very favorable. Um, and
[20:48] I think there's even been some proposals uh given back to the the team working on
[20:53] this particular project about a different layout, different components.
[20:58] Was there is that still a consideration or we pretty much exactly what the plan
[21:03] is that's being submitted tonight?
[21:10] » Yeah. >> Yes.
[21:14] Um Lisa Thompson, [clears throat] um Wendy's consultant with Morgan Van
[21:17] Allen. Um from what I understand, you guys have 60 days to zone the property
[21:23] after annexation. So that was one of the questions is um what what zoning do we
[21:28] put on it if it's annexed and not zoned? Um no, if you're leaning towards not
[21:33] approving the resoning, we would ask that we not be annexed. Um we would like
[21:38] to be given the opportunity to present the the plan and and the development. Um
[21:43] if you'll um postpone the decision for the annexation to at least um hear the
[21:50] um the the presentation or vote favorably
[21:55] and you you guys if you deny the reasonzoning, it's my understanding that
[22:00] this evening you can resend the vote for annexation as well. So there's a few
[22:05] options. Um, but if you don't even want to hear it,
[22:10] » this is highly out of our norm. We don't [snorts] reverse the order. I can't
[22:16] remember ever. >> Do we ever re No, don't need to answer.
[22:20] » I mean, if >> So, we're going to vote for the
[22:22] annexation. >> Okay.
[22:24] » And then if need be, we will vote on the project.
[22:29] » Hey, can I believe there's a motion on the floor? Brad, did you make the motion
[22:33] or did somebody interrupt you? >> Yes. Assuming you close the public
[22:38] hearing, then I had made the motion to um not approve the res.
[22:43] » Second, >> excuse me, not approve the annexation.
[22:46] Sorry. >> Second.
[22:48] » All right. How's council [clears throat] vote on this?
[22:54] » Call the >> All in favor?
[22:55] » I >> I
[22:57] » unanimous. No, I didn't hear all of them. I'm I'm going to be a n on that
[23:02] one because I I felt like there was more questions that needed to be answered.
[23:11] » All righty. So, we're not annexing this parcel.
[23:16] Um [clears throat] there's no need to
[23:22] uh Melanie, how do we deal with uh the next item? Seven, six, four. I mean,
[23:27] » if it I mean, if it's not in the town, you can't zone it.
[23:30] » Yeah. So, we're going to skip it or withdraw it from the
[23:35] » Yeah. suspend the >> I'm I'm a little worried because right
[23:39] when applications come in, we have a decision has to be made within a certain
[23:43] period of time.
[23:54] So we would would we suspend the rules and then remove it from the agenda?
[24:03] » Should we make a motion? >> I mean it' be easy. I make a
[24:10] Yeah. Just take a second. Okay.
[24:19] Melony, do do we need a motion to make you most comfortable?
[24:24] » I [clears throat] think you're better off hearing from the applicant because
[24:28] my concern is is right. They've paid the application fee. They've done everything
[24:33] we've asked them to do in terms of submitting the application and a
[24:38] decision is supposed to be issued in a certain amount of time. So I understand
[24:42] we can't do anything if it's not annexed. But at the same time um
[24:48] we have heard this presentation at least once or twice already. They're
[24:55] just putting less commercial in I guess with this last one.
[25:06] So there was a I wasn't here at the July meeting. There was a public hearing in
[25:09] the presentation. heard it from X meeting
[25:16] and then we deferred it against January. >> So there's been a hearing on it. There
[25:20] just is was not a vote on it. >> Correct.
[25:23] » And the annexation was what? Just not on that agenda.
[25:28] » Madam Attorney, I I feel pretty confident that the applicant would
[25:32] withdraw their
[25:38] that feels like that would solve your concern. Imagine
[25:41] them not doing that.
[25:58] We're confirming
[26:16] Have you got a decision
[26:20] » normally asked by somebody to pull application for the reason?
[26:25] I >> only ask the question the way it should
[26:27] be asked legally. Please
[26:36] Oh yeah. Yeah. We can't >> we don't have jury.
[26:40] » While all of that is true, we still have a process and procedure, right? When
[26:44] developers submit applications and when decisions should be made at a within a
[26:48] certain period of time. So we've never we've never had this decision. Normally
[26:54] what happens is if it does not pass then someone who
[27:00] voted for the annexation makes a motion to reconsider the vote before the end of
[27:04] the meeting. Um and that
[27:08] » reconsider the annexation. >> Correct. Okay.
[27:11] » Correct. That's how I've seen that. We've done that at least two or three
[27:14] times in the past. >> So you're saying let them present.
[27:20] » I think that's the safer route. >> Okay.
[27:23] But but you but you already voted on the annexation.
[27:26] » We did. >> And
[27:27] » as we always do, we do it in sequence. >> Okay.
[27:31] » And so someone who voted no,
[27:36] » which would be me. >> No, they they all voted no.
[27:40] » Steve voted. Oh, I voted >> yes. Okay.
[27:43] » Would have to make a motion to reconsider.
[27:45] » Reconsider the annexation. >> Correct.
[27:48] » When? Now. >> Right now. Yes.
[27:50] » No. Why would we do that? We just voted no.
[27:53] » Because I just wanted it to be clean and I don't want to leave the door open for
[27:57] any >> legal challenges based on the process
[28:02] and the procedure and >> how our rules are after the
[28:07] presentation. You could re you could reconsider the annexation.
[28:13] » Why would we need a presentation? We don't
[28:19] » if I mean if you don't want to do the presentation
[28:23] » I just I wasn't here in July so that's why I'm a little
[28:26] » uneasy about the whole process and what's happened. So was there because if
[28:32] it was presented in July y'all didn't vote on the annex there was
[28:37] there an annexation on the agenda? >> Yeah they were both
[28:42] » it was deferred. It was deferred. But was there a public hearing?
[29:00] » Should we take a uh short recess to pull up the agenda from July and see what it
[29:06] is? >> Yeah, that's that's what Miss Nichols is
[29:08] looking up right now. >> I'm trying to do the same. [snorts]
[29:11] 7:14
[29:27] all they were just that never did just we would
[29:41] Okay. Um, according to the minutes from the July meeting, the public hearing was
[29:46] opened and then continued, but it does not indicate that any presentation took
[29:52] place
[29:55] » August. >> I know we
[29:58] » that was July. >> I know that they've given us a
[30:01] presentation
[30:16] um is the so [clears throat] the procedure in which you're doing this
[30:22] like it's an order issue.
[30:32] Um, >> you introduce yourself, please.
[30:35] [clears throat] >> Sure. My name is Kerent
[30:39] town member as of July 31.
[30:45] » Thank you.
[30:49] question as far as
[30:57] » our procedure is always to do the annexation vote first and separate from
[31:02] the project that might follow and that's where we're at tonight and and basically
[31:07] I can't imag I don't recall another one that went differently so that's where
[31:12] we're at. >> Sure.
[31:15] And welcome to Stallings. [laughter] I've seen you a few times at our
[31:19] meetings. Um, nice to know who you are. >> Anybody can come, of course.
[31:24] » And where at installings are you? >> Uh, Stones right at
[31:33] » right before the >> Okay.
[31:39] So,
[31:43] » we are in a recess for >> You need a vote on the recess or no? Or
[31:48] you just call the rec? >> I'm just calling a recess for a couple
[31:50] minutes till we get this researched.
[32:36] Do you want to make a motion to suspend the rules to add a close session.
[32:41] » To do what? >> Add a close session.
[32:43] » Uh, yes. >> I make a motion.
[32:45] » Is the mayor allowed to do that? >> I'll do it.
[32:48] » I'm new, so I'm like >> I make a motion to suspend the rules
[32:53] going into close >> session under um NCJS143-318.11a.
[32:59] It's either three or six. Three. Okay. Three.
[33:03] » Second. >> All in favor?
[33:05] » I I don't vote. All right, we'll be back.