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Good afternoon.
Okay.
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» Good afternoon. Today is Monday, August
17th, 2026, and the time is 12 p.m. and
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I call this meeting to order.
>> Will you take the role, please, Mary?
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» Mrs. Pabal
>> here.
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» Miss Pabar, I apologize. Mr. Kramer,
>> here.
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» Mrs. Dan,
>> here. Everyone, um, please stand. And we
[0:26]
have today with us um Pastor Larry
Strobble who is from Hope Church who
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will offer us a prayer. And if you'll go
to the podium please sir. Thank you.
[0:36]
[clears throat]
>> Lord we invite your presence to come and
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be in the midst of our meeting. As we
deliberate we pray that you would give
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us wisdom.
Your wisdom helps us to know not only
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what to do, but how
and most of all when to do things.
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Lord, I thank you for our officers today
that will be promoted and honored. And I
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pray that you would give them prolonged
and safe careers. In fact, I pray for
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all of our officers who serve our
community that you would give them a
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hedge of protection as they protect us.
And so we commit this meeting into your
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hands. In his name we pray.
>> Amen.
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» Amen.
>> Thank you, sir. And please remain
[1:25]
standing for the pledge of allegiance.
>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
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on the property.
>> I wouldn't publicly.
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» So, thank you everyone for being here
today. We always love when we get a
[2:02]
crowd in here and it's our great honor
today to uh be here for the um the
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promotion for Detective Tyler Mantina to
Sergeant and we have a proclamation that
[2:13]
Fred will read for us.
[2:16]
Sher Creek Township resolution number
2026.08.17.01
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promotion of full-time police sergeant
Tyler Mantia.
[2:27]
Whereas the continuing need exists to
maintain proper staffing within Sugar
[2:31]
Creek Township Police Department and
whereas a vacancy exists with the
[2:36]
classification of full-time police
sergeant. And whereas a vacancy was
[2:42]
posted internally for applications in
accordance with township policy and
[2:46]
current labor contract. Whereas an asset
center was conducted with these
[2:52]
applications including testing for basic
exercise and review board. And whereas
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all applicants tested reviewed scored
well during the process and Chief Mike
[3:02]
Brown recommended the nomination for the
appointment of this candidate. And
[3:07]
whereas Detective Mantia was employed a
full-time officer with Sugar Creek
[3:11]
Township on May 10th, 20 2020. And
whereas Detective Mantia has shown
[3:18]
himself to be a dedicated employee and
whereas Detective Mantia meets all
[3:23]
requirements for his promotion and
accepts full responsibility for the
[3:26]
position. Now, therefore, be it resolved
that full-time detective Tyler Mantia
[3:33]
shall be promoted to full-time police
sergeant for the department effective
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August 18, 2026 at the rate of $5063
per hour, payable by weekly on a
[3:46]
bi-weekly basis, and subject to one-year
probationary period ending August 18,
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2027.
>> I'll make that motion.
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» I second.
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Good. Miss Pterball.
>> Yes. Mr. Kramer.
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» Yes. Mrs. Deception.
>> Yes. Chief Brown, if you'll come up.
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» We'll get out of the way.
[4:12]
[clears throat]
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» Sarah, Henry, and Miles. Come up.
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» Stay right here.
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All right. No, not yet. On this date,
you are hereby appointed to serve as a
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police sergeant for Sher Creek Township
Police Department pursuant to Ohio
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Revised Code 405.49.
As such, you shall affirm or swear to
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the following. Raise your right hand. I
state your name.
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» I, Tyler Mio.
>> Having been appointed to the office of
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sergeant
>> Having been appointed by the position of
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sergeant,
>> do solemnly swear. do solemnly swear
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» that I will support the Constitution
>> that I will support the Constitution
[4:59]
» and laws of the United States of America
>> and the laws of the United States of
[5:02]
America
>> constitution
[5:04]
» the Constitution
>> and the laws of the state of Ohio
[5:06]
» and the laws of the state of Ohio
>> and the laws and ordinances
[5:09]
» and the laws and ordinances
>> of Sugar Creek Township
[5:11]
» Sugar Creek Township
>> and will faithfully discharge
[5:14]
» and faithfully discharge
>> the duties of said office
[5:16]
» duties of said office
>> to the best of my ability
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» to the best of my ability.
>> All right. Congratulations.
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» Thank you.
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» [applause]
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» not
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good.
>> Good job.
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» Good job.
>> Nice work.
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» So, if you'll stay up, we'd like to get
photos of the family with the chief and
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then if you don't mind taking one with
us and then any other extended family,
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whoever you have here, then
>> before. Thank you. always with a little
[5:51]
bit.
>> First, I just want to say thank you to
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uh especially my family, especially my
wife. Uh all my friends in law
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enforcement, Estus, Sergeant Culver,
everyone here, Clark, uh the trustees,
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thank you for giving me this
opportunity. I missed you. Even Uncle
[6:10]
Ronnie, thank you. [laughter]
[6:15]
[snorts]
>> All right.
[6:30]
Yeah.
>> You know, if you were if you only worked
[6:34]
somewhere in the township, too.
[laughter]
[6:37]
» You know,
>> maybe.
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» Thank you guys.
>> You got a picture of my parents in
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there.
>> Absolutely.
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» Absolutely.
One more.
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» Okay.
[laughter]
[7:13]
» Hey, the last time I saw you was out of
baseball.
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» [laughter]
[7:22]
» Stand up straight. [laughter]
>> Stand up straight.
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» Ready?
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» Beautiful. Beautiful.
>> And would you like a photo with all the
[7:32]
first responders in it?
>> Okay. Every first responder, anyone that
[7:37]
come on up [laughter]
>> or soon to be Yeah.
[7:42]
» in our department. Yeah. Well,
you'll be all right.
[7:50]
» Is this your chance
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when
you're
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» Come on over here, boy.
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» [laughter]
[8:18]
» in the middle.
[clears throat]
[8:23]
» The new fig
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come up here.
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» [laughter]
>> like a shirt.
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[laughter]
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» Anyone else? No.
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[snorts]
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» Next, we have the appointment of
full-time officer Austin Reed. And Jody
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will read that proclamation.
>> Sure. Um, Sugar Creek Township
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resolution number 2026.08.17. 08.17.02
[9:44]
appointment of full-time police officer
Austin Maria. Whereas the continuing
[9:49]
need exists to maintain proper staffing
within Sugar Creek Township Police
[9:53]
Department and whereas a vacancy exists
within the classification of full-time
[9:59]
police officer and whereas the vacancy
has been posted for application in
[10:05]
accordance with township policy and
contract or current labor contract and
[10:12]
whereas an assessment center was
conducted which included testing and
[10:17]
basic exercises, review board and
personal interviews with the chief of
[10:22]
police and whereas after re a review of
all candidates, police chief Michael A.
[10:29]
Brown recommends this appointment and
confirms that there are funds available
[10:33]
for this position in the 2026 operating
budget. Now, therefore, it is reserved
[10:40]
that Austin Reed is here hereby
appointed full-time police officer
[10:44]
effective August 18, 2026 at the pay
rate of $3512
[10:51]
per hour, payable on bi-weekly basis,
and subject to a one-year probationary
[10:57]
period ending August 18, 2027.
>> I'll make that motion.
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» I second that.
>> Mr. Kramer,
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» yes.
>> Mrs. But
[11:07]
» yes,
>> I'm going to get that right eventually.
[11:09]
I apologize, Mrs. Dan.
>> Yes. All right, Chief.
[11:19]
[clears throat]
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» Anybody up here? You're good.
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» Don't want to put this.
>> Hey, I appreciate it.
[11:42]
» All right, hang on just a second. On
this date, you are hereby appointed to
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serve as a full-time police officer for
Sher Creek Township Police Department
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pursuant to the Ohio Revised Code
section number 505.49. 49. As such, you
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shall firm or swear to the following.
Raise your right hand. I state your
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name.
>> I, Austin Lee Reed,
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» do solemnly swear
>> do solemnly swear
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» that I will support the Constitution
>> that I will support the Constitution
[12:06]
» and laws of the United States of America
>> and laws of the United States of America
[12:09]
» the Constitution and laws
>> the Constitution and the laws
[12:13]
» of the state of Ohio
>> of the state of Ohio
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» and the laws and ordinances
>> and the laws and ordinances
[12:18]
» of Sugar Creek Township
>> of Sugar Creek Township
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» to the best of my ability. to the best
of my ability
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» will discharge the duties
>> will discharge the duties
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» of the office of police officer
>> of the office of police officer.
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» All right. Congratulations.
>> Thank you sir.
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[applause]
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[applause]
>> My son Alexander as you can tell he's a
[12:41]
big fan of police office as well. So you
might see him here in uh 15 20 years
[12:45]
something like that. He's ready to
start. So,
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my mom Cindy, my brother Tim is also
nominated as well. Um, first and
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foremost, I just want to say thank you
to the trustees and the chief Brown. You
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know, this is a big opportunity for me.
I'm very nervous as you can tell, so I
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apologize for that. Um, but like I said,
I'm going to do my absolute best to, you
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know, pull up the duties and walls that
the township has. And, uh, if you see me
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at the battle, don't feel afraid to come
up and say hi. Again, I promise I'll be
[13:11]
more nervous than you guys will. So, but
thank you all for being here. I
[13:15]
appreciate it. And God bless.
[13:23]
[applause]
Just listen slowly.
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Did you want to take that as your
pocket? Why don't you take a picture
[14:01]
with your phone and then you
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We've never had a young a man like this.
[clears throat and laughter] This is so
[14:14]
cool.
[14:21]
Okay, over here. One, two, three.
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This is just the cutest dog picture
we've ever had. This is too cool.
[14:45]
[clears throat]
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» Okay. We had the white brothers come up
[laughter] and
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» all right
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» we suffered Yes,
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» picture was awesome.
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» [laughter]
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» Joe, do you want to get on the side or
whatever side? Whatever.
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» Oh, I guess. Sure.
>> You got more experience than I do with
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this one. [laughter]
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Congratulations.
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» We are excited.
>> I appreciate it.
[16:23]
» And we thank all the family and friends
for being here. You do not have to stay
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for the rest of our meeting, but you're
welcome to stay if you would like to.
[16:30]
So, thank you all for being here.
[laughter]
[16:32]
» You want to take a five minute recess?
Sure. We'll take a five minute recess so
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we can say hi and
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is now um 12:26 and we'll be back in
session here and our five minutes turned
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into more like 10 or 15 but it was a
good break. So thank you.
[16:51]
All right with that we will start with
our um reports. So start with the
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administrator.
[17:04]
Well, I was excited to see that
apparently we're going to widen
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Wilmington Pike.
[17:12]
» Well, that's always been part of the
plan.
[17:13]
» It was always part of the plan. Is that
>> now phase two or three?
[17:18]
» No, that's down the road.
>> Still down the road.
[17:20]
» Yeah,
>> that'll be part of the interchange
[17:22]
project.
>> But it looks like that's going to
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happen.
>> Yes,
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» eventually.
>> Yep. still some funds to be raised.
[17:32]
» I hear
>> the I think the biggest
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what came out of that meeting is
um
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it they're taking at least 24 to 28
spaces off the front of Cracker Barrel.
[17:50]
On the other side of the street, they'll
be affecting the entrance to Freddy's.
[17:55]
uh the parking in Freddy's and
>> Bob Evans
[17:58]
» Bob Evans
>> and the entrance to that plaza u down
[18:04]
near Tropical Smoothie.
>> So they're big changes that are going to
[18:08]
affect those businesses definitely.
[18:12]
» Is Cracker Barrel thinking about moving
then? I know there was some discussion
[18:15]
at one point.
>> I can't speak for Cracker Barrel. I
[18:18]
don't know. I I in the in the meeting
they felt that it would be a complete
[18:23]
take of the parcel
which will put them out of business.
[18:29]
» Would this reopen the options
for fixing the 675 Willington
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interchange?
>> That's part of the plan is to No, the
[18:40]
options aren't going to change. It's
done.
[18:42]
» Okay.
>> Yeah. It'll be a divergent diamond
[18:44]
» whether we want it or not. Yeah, it is
going to be a
[18:52]
major learning experience for the public
when that road is done because you're
[18:57]
going to be as you head north when you
get at Miami Valley South,
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» you're going to move to the left side of
the road completely
[19:06]
under the overpass and then uh up near
the plazas, move back to the right side,
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» which is like Austin Landing, but it's
>> very similar, but You're going to
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continuously move.
>> Yeah, it's closer to
[19:21]
um Union Center Boulevard would be the
closest one in design.
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» Okay.
Has Stephanie Golf and and Brandon
[19:30]
Huddleston have they arranged a meeting?
>> They have not.
[19:33]
» Okay.
And since you got it in your report and
[19:36]
I'm thinking about it, so is 2 o'clock
Thursday at pro it's it's confirmed. And
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um can we go to prosecutor Hayes? Can we
go to their office? Sure.
[19:45]
» Okay. All right. I will confirm that
then.
[19:47]
» Is that referring to the baby box?
>> The baby box. Yes. So, uh um the the
[19:52]
contract came back and they changed
things without telling us they were
[19:56]
going to change things again. So, uh
actually the prosecutor's office Yeah. I
[20:01]
don't know if you want to go into a lot
of details, but
[20:03]
» it feels like we're very close. We're
within six to 10 miles.
[20:07]
» Um [laughter]
[20:10]
he's changing
>> compared from where we started. We're
[20:12]
very close.
>> We are very close. We're hoping a final
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meeting virtual with them will we'll
finalize the deal.
[20:17]
» So we're hoping we walk away with with
signatures or agreement for signatures
[20:22]
and able to move on.
>> Okay.
[20:24]
» So fingers crossed for Thursday. We we
need it.
[20:29]
» I feel like every time you've submitted
something it's they've it changed. It's
[20:35]
the frustrating part is they they we
came to an understanding on certain
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items that were removed
>> and with the latest latest round they
[20:44]
put them right back in.
>> So it's like they think we're not re
[20:48]
rereading the uh the latest greatest
>> cont. We don't know and that's why we
[20:52]
want to have that conversation.
>> So we don't know if it's just their
[20:56]
their legal counsel that's doing it. We
don't we don't know quite what's uh what
[20:59]
the holdup is. But we're we're getting
all the indulge parties together on the
[21:03]
phone at the same time for them.
>> In talking with other communities that
[21:07]
have come to an agreement with them,
they've undergone very similar
[21:12]
problems.
>> And we know of two other townships that
[21:15]
had the uh um identification language
removed saying that we are not held
[21:20]
responsible. So those are
non-negotiables as they're required by
[21:24]
Ohio Revised Code and they they keep
trying to sneak it back in. So that's
[21:28]
that's the biggest thing.
>> The the only way we could agree to their
[21:33]
indemnification is if we took a million
dollars
[21:38]
uh cash out of our funding and placed it
in an account dedicated just for
[21:44]
protecting them with indemnity indemnity
>> for and just leave it there for like 10
[21:49]
years.
>> Leave it there in perpetuity. In
[21:50]
» perpetuity as long as we had the box, we
would have to leave it there.
[21:53]
» So
>> and that's not an option. I wasn't
[21:56]
planning to come back to you too and
say, "Can we take a tenth of our our
[21:59]
operating budget?" And I'm sure the
chiefs would love that, too. So, I
[22:03]
[laughter]
>> You're wise not to bring that to us.
[22:06]
» That is a non-negotiable.
>> Okay.
[22:10]
» So, we car's report. Cara is out today.
Um,
[22:16]
she should be back tomorrow.
>> Okay.
[22:21]
What about [snorts] Rich's report? which
is
[22:25]
» the reszoning of the Rumbl property has
been withdrawn.
[22:29]
» It's been resubmitted.
>> They withdrew.
[22:33]
» So, we our concern was it had been
almost a year that that they had
[22:36]
submitted and been tabled
>> and there's been a lot of changes with
[22:40]
the traffic impact study and all that.
So, we asked them to withdraw that. They
[22:44]
did that and now they have resubmitted a
new application.
[22:47]
» Okay. We should have it to the zoning
commission. I want to say October,
[22:52]
November, somewhere in there.
>> I thought it was dead when I saw that
[22:55]
was.
>> Yeah, it says it's been withdrawn. I was
[22:59]
going to ask about that.
[23:04]
» Okay.
>> Okay.
[23:04]
» Uh, anything on with the fiscal officer
then?
[23:07]
» No, Rich is traveling. He was hoping to
be back in town by now, but he's not. He
[23:12]
didn't make it back.
>> Okay.
[23:16]
Fire.
[23:22]
So, one one more time, and I'm probably
sure that you've done this. How long is
[23:26]
our ladder truck going to be out of
commission?
[23:33]
» Uh, initially state it could be three
months or more. I reached out to him
[23:39]
today via email. I haven't heard that to
get try to specific time frame, but soon
[23:48]
as I know something, I'll make a phone
call to them after this meeting.
[23:53]
» And in that period of time, we're going
to rely on mutual aid. Is that correct?
[23:58]
» Station 72 has a backup engine. We will
not have a ladder truck service. So,
[24:02]
[snorts] we'll rely on mutual aid,
Washington,
[24:09]
but it'll be an automatic response.
>> Okay. If needed. Um, I did get we did
[24:14]
receive the check from the insurance
company for the repairs. Um, I wanted
[24:21]
them to wait until after the repairs
were complete to make the payment.
[24:25]
» Sure.
>> To directly to uh Heritage.
[24:29]
They wanted to go ahead and get the
check cut and it's still made out to
[24:34]
Heritage, but they sent it to us to
hold. It's valid for 60 days. I told him
[24:39]
it's going to be a stale check at that
point. She said, "That's fine. We have
[24:42]
to do it this way. If it's not done
within the 60 days, we'll reissue a
[24:47]
second check. So, that's where we're at.
>> Want to know why insurance costs so
[24:54]
much?
>> Yeah.
[24:59]
» Okay.
>> Any questions? Thank you, Chief.
[25:04]
» All right. Police.
>> I have nothing.
[25:11]
Well, I'll make you come up to the
podium.
[25:14]
[laughter]
So, just curious what kind of time
[25:16]
frame. Um, so, so now you have two
vacancies coming up in your detective
[25:22]
department. So, what does the process
look like? Because we're losing Mantia's
[25:26]
moving up and Gro is leaving. So, uh,
will Leslie be in there by herself?
[25:31]
Like, what's what's kind of your vision?
What's going to happen? Okay.
[25:34]
[clears throat]
>> So, Paul's got two more weeks.
[25:36]
» I've already posted. So the two
detectives and the detective sergeant
[25:41]
position three spots are specialized
just like the school resource officer.
[25:46]
So I've advertised it all in house,
right? So we've posted it. Um so far
[25:51]
none of the sergeants have put in for it
um for the sergeants position. So we'll
[25:56]
fill that rather quickly. Um and then
whoever goes in the detective section um
[26:03]
Sergeant Black has the opportunity to go
into one of the two vacancies and then
[26:07]
Antia, it's all about Senori, right?
Antia will get what's left. Um, so I'll
[26:12]
probably later this week post the
detective position that's now vacant
[26:17]
because of Antia's promotion. So, it's
all it's all and then we'll see who puts
[26:22]
in for that interview process.
Everything's done in house though.
[26:25]
» Okay, that's great. Thank you.
>> So, where do we stand on um how many
[26:31]
open positions?
>> So, total right, our authorized strength
[26:34]
is 19. This brings us to 18 for two
weeks and then we'll
[26:40]
» Oh, then Paul we'll be back to 17. Yeah.
>> So, I personally want to thank you for
[26:48]
sending the text saying the parade was
cancelled since I was there and there
[26:52]
was nobody else there [laughter]
and I was feeling a little
[26:56]
» like really early.
>> I did because I was picking I wanted to
[27:00]
make sure you were there and all that
stuff. So anyway, I didn't want you to
[27:04]
get there without me being there. So
that text was very nice and I appreciate
[27:09]
it immensely.
[27:13]
» All right. Thank you, Chief.
>> Thank you.
[27:17]
» All right. Roads and services.
[clears throat]
[27:20]
» Oh no. Oh no.
Uh Justin, I have a question.
[27:26]
[clears throat]
When I talked to to Chief Brown about
[27:29]
washing the nines, I have one concept of
what it is. What is it when you wash the
[27:34]
nines?
>> It's an aggregate limestone. It's just
[27:38]
» so size.
>> Oh, I thought it was guns.
[27:44]
» No, it's just
>> Okay,
[27:47]
» that's it. Please use it for our third.
>> Oh, okay.
[27:54]
» Um, I got a comment uh [snorts]
Sunday Sunday morning from a gentleman
[28:00]
who really appreciated you repaving the
road there in Riveridge, too. So, I had
[28:07]
got got approached and they said that
it's you did a great job and they love
[28:11]
it.
>> You painted painted paint.
[28:17]
» Yes. So, another compliment on your job.
>> And I'd like to add another compliment.
[28:23]
I mentioned it to Justin before the
meeting, but uh if you haven't noticed
[28:27]
on the bike hike paths in front of the
high school and um like every every road
[28:32]
break, there are now um stop signs like
their little miniature um stop signs for
[28:37]
the um pedestrians and the bike
bicyclist, scooter people. Uh so that
[28:42]
just to increase safety. That was
something that came out of the school
[28:45]
safety board. So, thank you for doing
that. and he had to work with Stephanie
[28:48]
Golf to find out where all the lines
were. [laughter]
[28:52]
» It's always harder than it should be. I
think
[28:56]
» Yeah. So, thank you.
[29:01]
» All right. I think
[29:07]
All right, trustees.
[29:13]
Um, I was just going to say I was
disappointed that the parade was
[29:17]
cancelled, but at least they ended up
having a nice festival. I guess it was
[29:23]
hot and muggy and I don't know if it was
as busy as it normally is, but they
[29:28]
still had a pretty good crowd, so that
was nice. Um, I did get to go to the
[29:33]
Green County Fair and watch some of the
cow um, shows, so that was that's always
[29:39]
interesting and fun. Um, [clears throat]
I put my glasses on so I can see. Has
[29:46]
anybody has there been any more
information from Nathan with the Boy
[29:50]
Scouts and the little ceremony?
>> They were going to have their first
[29:54]
planning meeting, but we haven't
followed. Well, they said the the junior
[29:57]
ROTC is doing something at the school,
so they deferred to them was the last
[30:02]
that I
>> responding. And what they've always what
[30:05]
they've done, what the school's done in
the past is just something at the flag
[30:08]
pole in front of the high school. So, I
believe that's probably what they're
[30:12]
anticipating, but I don't know if
they've reached out to the Boy Scouts,
[30:15]
» but certainly not to any community
leaders that I know of.
[30:18]
» Okay. Yeah, I I know he had sent an
email and then I hadn't heard anything,
[30:21]
so just to make sure that I wasn't
missing anything. Um, and then
[30:27]
I [clears throat] mean school already
started. I I can't believe it's already
[30:31]
almost the end of August, but the um the
Friday night football game 911 is at
[30:38]
home. So, it's the military appreciation
night. So, here soon there'll be a
[30:44]
Google sheet going out for the data
collection of any police or fire that's
[30:49]
former military that wants to
participate um as a hometown hero.
[30:54]
Typically in the past it's been one
person in our community, but this year
[30:58]
the football club decided to do all
that. So I spoke about it a few months
[31:02]
back, but that'll be coming out soon.
Um, and then I was just wondering after
[31:08]
when we met on August 7th at our
meeting, um, did we put the public
[31:14]
notice out of all of that for when the
meeting's going to be about that? on the
[31:19]
be on the website and then during the
meeting giving notice gives public
[31:22]
notice at the same time.
>> Okay. Yeah. Um I just want to make sure
[31:25]
that we were following it because it
says newspaper, social media or website.
[31:29]
So make sure that we were with that. Um
and then let's see. Oh, I was going to
[31:37]
ask Cara, but when you guys were talking
about the signs at Kroger, did anybody
[31:42]
ever reach out to anybody about all the
trash that's up there in that pond at
[31:45]
Kroger? kind of remember we talked about
it a while ago.
[31:49]
» Which pond?
>> Um the the Kroger. It's kind of like
[31:53]
between
>> pond
[31:55]
» between that and the Dunkin Donuts. They
actually went in and cleaned it out
[32:00]
close to a month ago now.
>> Did our guys clean it out?
[32:03]
» No. No. Broers did.
>> Yeah.
[32:04]
» They mowed everything down and cleaned
it all out.
[32:07]
» Yep.
>> Still looks kind of
[32:10]
I I caught my eye the other day. So, um
but yeah, that's it. Not much. That's it
[32:16]
for now. Unless anybody has any
questions.
[32:24]
» Uh
we had the uh Belbrook Sugar Creek
[32:30]
Chamber of Commerce golf outing.
It was uh 32 teams. It was the most
[32:35]
teams ever held there. It went off uh
absolutely like clockwork. Um and uh the
[32:44]
new athletic director from Wright State
who's moved to Sugar Creek Township
[32:48]
participated. So we're getting uh people
to play in the event that never would
[32:53]
have played before. So uh good time was
had by all. Uh two, I would like to
[33:01]
nominate Cara Tilford
for a
[33:08]
» one of our customer service award. Okay.
Uh Dan Deval, a builder here in uh the
[33:14]
community, uh approached me and told me
that he deals with zoning in Warren
[33:20]
County and Montgomery County and said,
"Of all the people that he deals with in
[33:24]
zoning, she is the most diligent and
helps him find a solution faster than
[33:32]
anyone else." And I said, "Seriously?"
And he said, "It's night and day. She is
[33:37]
so far ahead of everybody else." So, uh,
I thought an unsolicited person comes up
[33:43]
and tells you somebody's doing a good
job. I think they should get an award
[33:46]
for that.
>> I'll second that.
[33:51]
» Do you want to take a vote? Do we
>> for customer appreciation?
[33:55]
» Uh, we don't typically if we get
>> Okay. All right.
[34:00]
» And again, thank you, uh, Chief Brown
for notifying me why the parade wasn't
[34:04]
there, but I was had a good spot. Thank
you.
[34:10]
» [laughter]
>> Can I hear the bell hops closing?
[34:12]
» It is.
>> That is really sad.
[34:16]
» Heather is such a a
>> She is
[34:18]
» staple to the community.
>> Uh and that's the end of this month.
[34:23]
» The end of the month. Yes.
>> Is there any celebration?
[34:26]
» Is there a kind of a at the end or?
>> I do not know.
[34:29]
» Okay.
>> All right.
[34:33]
» It's not known for parties.
[34:37]
They they did used to have a lot of
lunchons, a lot back in the day.
[34:41]
» Celebrations.
>> Chief, if you if you'll look on your end
[34:43]
and I'll look on my end and see if we
find if there's going to be anything. If
[34:47]
not, maybe maybe we suggest that she has
a little open house.
[34:52]
» Okay.
>> Yeah, I'd love that.
[34:54]
» I did notice all the art inside is 50%
off now, so they must be trying to like
[34:58]
get rid of everything.
>> Yeah,
[35:02]
» it is.
I attended the Dayton Development
[35:08]
Coalition had a base tour um option the
same day they were off playing golf. So
[35:13]
I I I spent the whole day uh looking at
the base, but I was able to meet the new
[35:17]
88th Air Base Wing Commander and the
445th new Air Base Wing or 445th uh
[35:23]
commander also. So it was um a very good
tour and everyone's very enthusiastic.
[35:28]
They've all been there less than um a
month and a half, so they're all brand
[35:32]
new to their position. So there's a lot
of enthusiasm on base right now, but
[35:36]
they are all saying that they would like
to step up um community relationships
[35:40]
and having events that they bring in uh
local local jurisdictions with uh um
[35:46]
with base and have um sometimes they'll
have events at the club, that sort of
[35:50]
thing. So I'll keep you posted if I hear
of those sort of things, but that's
[35:54]
always great. And I was also there at
the Grand County Fair, participated in
[35:58]
that and we met about the baby box. Uh,
and the we had our our legal council
[36:04]
came actually to the township and we had
a meeting last week and that prompted
[36:08]
the tea meeting that we're going to have
this week. So that should be good. the
[36:13]
uh marijuana dispensary discussion, just
as a reminder, that will now be on
[36:18]
October 19th, and that's normally a 12
noon uh meeting, but that one's going to
[36:23]
be moved to 7 p.m. so that we can get
more um since we had the other meeting
[36:28]
in during the day, we wanted to have one
during the evening to get more
[36:31]
participation from the public. So, make
sure that's on your calendars because
[36:35]
that is a change from our usual.
And uh is uh Sergeant Guerrero still
[36:42]
Friday at 11:30 to and that will that be
here?
[36:45]
» Yes.
>> Okay. Gotcha. All right. So I got that.
[36:49]
» So the meeting on 17th is at night.
>> At night. 700 p.m. at night.
[36:53]
» Oh, I saw him and his little girl at
meet the team for football. She is so
[36:58]
cute. She was in her little cheerleader
uniform. So I got a picture of her and
[37:02]
Kay. It was really cute.
>> Okay, that's awesome.
[37:06]
And then uh I wanted to bring up for
just consideration. So u when I was at
[37:11]
the Dayton Development Coalition, the
the base tour, I met a lady that
[37:16]
specializes her business, she was a
prior military and her business is doing
[37:21]
strategic planning, that sort of thing.
And Barry and I were talking. I was
[37:25]
like, well, we could reach out and find
out what her price point is and what we
[37:29]
want to do. But we were kind of
discussing the the pros and cons if we
[37:33]
should do that because uh traditionally
we are a open space green community is
[37:41]
sort of what the the traditional Sugar
Creek Township like our our main uh
[37:47]
focus would be on and we were just
talking about what how would we
[37:53]
what would we make that process look
like? So we're still
[37:55]
» strategic planning.
>> Yeah. For strategic planning.
[37:57]
» So interesting. I went to um I've been
looking at other communities to see if
[38:02]
they have posted on their website and
even the larger communities uh
[38:07]
Westchester Township has one for their
fire department
[38:12]
but not for any other aspect of the
community which was surprising to me. Um
[38:19]
I forwarded it to to the chief to have
him look at it and see what he thought.
[38:24]
Um
it's
[38:28]
It it's an interesting process. Is that
fair? What they went through uh to to to
[38:34]
develop this plan and I don't know that
it says a whole lot in the end. Um
[38:41]
there's a lot of words, but I don't know
that it says a whole lot. So, it was
[38:46]
interesting. So, we're looking at it in
other communities to to see what they
[38:51]
look like, uh,
what they what they put together and and
[38:58]
if if there is an actual plan.
Um,
[39:03]
» one one of ours, I don't know if it's
police or fire, has a vision, I think.
[39:07]
» Yeah, they have mission statements or
vision plans.
[39:10]
» Yeah. All I was saying is it just needs
to be consistent like like every
[39:15]
department should at least I mean I'm
not saying at least but if one
[39:18]
department already has a vision then we
all should or it should be removed. You
[39:21]
know what I'm saying? Like it's just
inconsistent across the board.
[39:25]
» I I think
>> I I guess the question would be do you
[39:29]
want it to be a vision statement or a
mission statement? and they may be the
[39:33]
same or similar, but I think a mission
statement speaks to the the mindset of
[39:41]
the department.
>> Yeah, I think if you were just picking
[39:44]
one, I would think it would be the
mission.
[39:46]
» I would agree.
>> The mission is kind of like what you're
[39:50]
doing, but the vision is kind of like
what you seek to do. You know what I
[39:53]
mean?
>> But I just Yeah. I either we we all have
[39:57]
it or we don't have it at all or just
very inconsistent when you go through
[40:01]
the web page.
>> They can work toward that. Absolutely.
[40:05]
» So I don't know. Do you want to reach
out and get a price point what that
[40:08]
would even look like or you just want to
continue?
[40:10]
» I don't know that we need to go outside.
I think
[40:12]
» just do it internally.
>> We can we can look at other communities
[40:16]
and borrow their processes to get to
where we need to be. I think the the
[40:22]
both departments have a good mindset,
mission,
[40:27]
uh
[40:30]
where what they how they want to provide
services, but to to journalize it in
[40:36]
words would be good.
>> I have templates also that I could
[40:39]
[snorts] provide and then people could
look at them and see if something
[40:43]
» great
>> work towards, you know, if it fit with
[40:45]
what they thought they had.
>> Yeah, I think it's
[40:50]
I I don't I I
personally, again, this is personal, I
[40:55]
think sometimes they're just superfluous
and just a lot of words put out that are
[41:00]
a bunch of catchphrases and and they're
not actually implementing those things.
[41:04]
So, whatever we put, I think it it needs
to be carried through to to the
[41:09]
day-to-day
>> or it could be a reflection of like you
[41:13]
had a fire levy what year two years ago.
It could be a reflection of whatever you
[41:18]
promoted, not you, but like the
organization promoted when they were
[41:22]
trying to pass the levy. Y and it could
reflect like this is what we did did or
[41:27]
you know what I mean? Like it it should
all tie in.
[41:29]
» So give me an example.
>> So I know what the fire issues were.
[41:35]
» So you want that as our
>> strategic?
[41:37]
» No.
>> Oh, I'm sorry.
[41:39]
» No, we we're not talking strategic plan
at all. We're just talking about a
[41:42]
mission. Barry's just saying that it
should be relevant. And so I'm agreeing
[41:48]
saying if we said we're going to do X Y
and Z then if we're going to make it
[41:52]
relevant let's mesh that like if we said
we're going to go buy a ladder truck or
[41:57]
whatever mesh it together so it's
relevant and we're actually doing
[42:03]
» in the mission what we said we
>> it's not a strategic but a mission
[42:07]
» I think that's what we're
>> and I I don't think it needs to be three
[42:09]
pages it can be very short very brief
you guys have got a saying miss uh
[42:14]
caring professionals
Clearly, it's engraved in your brain.
[42:19]
[laughter]
[42:23]
» Yes.
>> I mean, typically it's the five W's,
[42:26]
like who we are, what we're going to do,
why, like, whatever.
[42:28]
» Yep.
>> It could be very simple.
[42:30]
» Y
one thing that I think is important for
[42:34]
our community is community connectivity
and uh um collaboration. And what I mean
[42:39]
by that is like our bike hike path
initiative trying to connect to the
[42:44]
communities around us. Our um our first
like our mutual responding with with our
[42:50]
surrounding communities, that sort of
thing. So I I would say that probably
[42:53]
would be a core value of the township.
So So those kind of things it probably
[42:58]
wouldn't be bad to Yes.
>> I mean those are obvious, but but if
[43:02]
it's stated that now we have a new
employee. We just had a new fire fire
[43:07]
person and if you saw what those core
values were of where we're trying to go,
[43:10]
I think you feel more of a
>> sense of connected to the organization.
[43:16]
» And then I guess too, do you just want I
mean when I say you I don't mean just
[43:20]
you, but I mean like all of us. Is it
just going to be a mission that supports
[43:24]
all of us or do we want like each
department? It
[43:26]
» should be each department,
>> right? But I'm just saying those are
[43:29]
things that should be put so we just
have a clear understanding of where
[43:32]
we're going with it. Yep.
[43:36]
Yeah, I wasn't here for the previous
meeting, so I wasn't sure what
[43:39]
» Okay.
>> where we were going.
[43:40]
» I just wanted to follow up figure out
>> what what the direction is. And and um I
[43:46]
I don't know. Even if we don't hire out,
it would still maybe be good to have a
[43:50]
work session where we specifically focus
on that and have somebody facilitate
[43:54]
that probably.
>> Sure.
[43:57]
» Okay, let's proceed with that.
All right. Next, we'll move to Oh,
[44:02]
anything else before we go on? Did you
have anything, Barry? Okay. All right.
[44:06]
Public comments limited to five minutes
per person. Agenda related business
[44:10]
only.
>> All right. Old business
[44:17]
now that the school's back in session.
>> So, interesting. I got a I got an email
[44:22]
from
Doug Ked
[44:26]
the end of last week wanted to know if
we were meeting today with it. I said,
[44:30]
"No, you guys didn't give me a
confirmation for anything ever." So,
[44:35]
we're circulating it again, trying to
get something on the books.
[44:38]
» Okay.
>> Talking to the city manager, he sees no
[44:42]
value in it.
[44:47]
» So, we'll see what happens.
>> Guess it won't be a brook.
[44:51]
» Yeah. I just think that we put it out
there and who comes comes, right? Like,
[44:55]
at least it looks like we're trying to
work collaboratively. that worked come
[45:00]
out very smoothly, but because there are
some city folks that would meet with us.
[45:06]
So,
>> yeah, Bel Brook uh they held it the last
[45:11]
time.
>> Yeah.
[45:12]
» Was that at their place?
>> So, yeah, but I mean they they sponsored
[45:17]
it. I thought they were all in. Uh and I
think it's it's always good for us to
[45:22]
hear those things, understand what's
going on in those areas, specifically if
[45:26]
there's something going to be on the
ballot.
[45:29]
so that we're aware that something may
be on the ballot before we decide that
[45:33]
we're going to put something on the
ballot. I think that's I think there's
[45:37]
great value to that. It brings us
together more as a community, too. We're
[45:40]
like working together.
[45:44]
» All right.
>> I'm disappointed to hear that about
[45:48]
city.
[45:51]
» All right. Next, we'll move to consent
agenda items, which includes the payment
[45:55]
of bills, last meeting minutes, and the
appointment of fire department staff
[46:00]
Zachary Yoast. And I don't believe
there's anything we need to pull out for
[46:04]
that.
>> Any discussion? Okay. Well, I'll make a
[46:07]
motion that we accept the consent agenda
items as presented.
[46:12]
» I second that.
>> Mr. Kramer, yes. Miss Pablo,
[46:16]
» yes.
>> Mrs. Denn,
[46:18]
» yes.
All right. Is there any other
[46:21]
discussion? I do know we'll have an
executive session at the end, so we will
[46:26]
do that. But next, we'll move to public
comments limited to five minutes per
[46:30]
person, township related business.
Denise,
[46:34]
» otherwise known as lefty.
[46:38]
» And thank you, Chief, because I'm not
sure she could get this.
[46:44]
» I don't know if you're talking about
composting. I was going to mention that.
[46:47]
So is that well we'll just keep that in
your mind too because I I I did mention
[46:51]
that at the last meeting.
>> So Denise Moore Valley Drive my question
[46:56]
is about the school the old school and
I'm a little fuzzy on the situation
[47:04]
there. It seems kind of I don't know. It
just seems odd the way that whole thing
[47:11]
is taking place. So, I didn't know if we
were involved in in that at all.
[47:16]
» Not at all. It's insane.
>> As a taxpayer
[47:20]
who supported [snorts] the school, I
understand that the school has expended
[47:26]
a bunch of money on this,
but I also am a taxpayer that's
[47:32]
contributed to that in some fashion, I
think. And I'm curious how that whole
[47:38]
deal was taking place. It just seems
kind of phony. They did try to reach out
[47:43]
to the community. I know there were
multiple schoolboard meetings where they
[47:46]
they brought people in and they did ask
for input. Uh what I I know initially
[47:51]
they were asking what uh what
potentially the old Sugar Creek school
[47:54]
building could be used for. Um because
it was not ADA compliant. It was old.
[47:58]
There were a lot of issues with the
building itself. And they they did reach
[48:02]
out to Sugar Creek at one point and
asked did we have any interest in
[48:05]
participating in that whole discussion.
And we we already knew that the Lions
[48:09]
Club had quite a bit of interest in in
the land personally. And uh at at the
[48:14]
time the trustees we all discussed it
and said that there was no um no action
[48:18]
like nothing that we wanted to to do
with that with that piece of property.
[48:23]
» Okay.
>> So we were involved that way. But yes, I
[48:27]
um after that we were sort of hands off
and like you do your thing and they
[48:31]
coordinated with the city on what they
wanted to do with the building that way.
[48:35]
» But you're right, there was no vote. the
way the whole thing was going down
[48:40]
» the way buying it for a dollar here and
this person
[48:45]
» a little bit and I might have it a but
if they would have put it for public
[48:51]
auction
then it would have gone to whomever
[48:56]
possibly and I think they were trying to
they didn't want it to be a residential
[49:00]
area
>> because that's what the citizens
[49:04]
they were very against that becoming
like apartments or whatever.
[49:09]
» And if you sell it that way, you can't
control who might buy it and what they
[49:15]
might come back and want to zone it for
and build there.
[49:18]
» Okay.
>> So, they
[49:20]
it it's a hard process to follow, but
they have been very open about it and
[49:25]
they've been meeting about it for
probably almost three years.
[49:28]
» Yeah. Yeah. And um the way that it and
this is how I understand it, the way
[49:35]
that it's happened is that they have a
little bit of control over what can be
[49:39]
built there now and they want to make it
community centered for the community.
[49:45]
And if it would have sold outside of
that, they could not have control that
[49:50]
sense to me.
>> Yeah. So,
[49:52]
» okay. Well, I didn't know if we were
involved at all. So, I just was curious
[49:57]
and what you thought of the situations.
>> Well, I'm very passionate about that
[50:01]
building because I went to school there
>> and I think it's a staple in our
[50:04]
community and I wanted like whatever I
just wanted it to stay,
[50:07]
» right?
>> But um so I went to a lot of those
[50:11]
meetings like
>> a few years back and just to hear and
[50:15]
understand and I mean I I know it's out
of compliance like there it would cost a
[50:21]
gazillion dollars to
>> I appreciate that. Okay, I appreciate
[50:25]
it. I feel a little bit better now about
it. I I just was picking up hearsay
[50:29]
stuff.
>> I know it's it is a sad situation just
[50:33]
because it I feel like our downtown
doesn't have a lot of a historical of
[50:38]
what it once was.
>> Yeah.
[50:40]
» But it takes money and
>> um
[50:43]
» Yeah,
>> that's just not
[50:45]
» and and and the building has served a
very good strong purpose for the
[50:50]
community for years and years.
>> So it wasn't like it was not being used
[50:55]
appropriately because it
>> right
[50:57]
» it had a really good
>> mission.
[51:01]
[clears throat]
[51:04]
» When you do a mission, I think it's
important that you also do some quality
[51:10]
steps that you do as you move through
like let's say you wanted to do a
[51:15]
strategic plan for about a fiveyear
period. So then when you do that, you
[51:20]
have different things that you're
measuring your quality about like your
[51:24]
levy. The levy you mentioned that's
that's a quality statement for the
[51:29]
mission of the fire department or um
what you mentioned something else. A
[51:34]
couple of things you guys mentioned
would be stuff that you would say, okay,
[51:39]
this is how we're fulfilling our mission
and our strategic plan. And you're
[51:45]
measuring those things along the way.
And so you can say, well, did we do what
[51:51]
we should have done? No. Maybe we need
to do something different this coming
[51:55]
year to make sure that we pick up what
we didn't do. So I think that's an
[52:00]
important piece
>> if you do that. I think it's smart.
[52:05]
» Thank you.
>> So I'm going to bring out my teacher and
[52:07]
you that's why I said the five W's
because it's the who, what, when, where,
[52:11]
why, or how. Like we're going to get
there. So it all ties in. That last one
[52:16]
was an H by the way.
>> I know. But uh but but like that was the
[52:20]
who, what, when, where, why.
>> Sometimes how
[52:24]
anyways. Yeah. But [clears throat] it it
covers that. Yeah.
[52:27]
» And then it all connects and it's great
talking points so everybody's on the
[52:31]
same page.
>> Y
[52:34]
» and Barry, have you talked to Denise or
will Okay. So maybe before we go into
[52:38]
executive session, you two or do you
want to just address it now? So Okay.
[52:43]
Gotcha. But we did discuss it at the
last meeting which I believe you were
[52:46]
not at. So Okay.
All right. Anyone else?
[52:54]
» Okay. Uh we'll move to trustee and staff
discussions.
[52:58]
» Nothing else. Just the need for the
executive session 121 22 G1.
[53:04]
» Okay. Hold that thought. Hold that
thought just in case. Is there anything
[53:07]
else? Okay. All right. We'll go ahead
and though
[53:10]
» 12122 G1 to discuss personnel matters.
>> Okay, I'll make that motion.
[53:16]
» I second that.
>> Mr. Kramer.
[53:18]
» Yes, Miss Pterbo.
>> Yes.
[53:21]
» Mrs. D.
>> Yes. And the time is 103. And we are not
[53:25]
anticipating anyction. We may have
action. Okay. So, you're welcome to stay
[53:29]
if you'd like to.
>> Not not anything of any consequence.
[53:32]
» Yes. Yes. And I would like uh Justin
Winder to join us.
[53:37]
Okay.
>> I mean, I would think college more than
[53:42]
$22 an hour.
>> She can quickly go up pretty quick if
[53:47]
she gets those other accommodations.
Like this is first day of the drop. It's
[53:52]
It's a start.
>> You're recording again.
[53:56]
» Yeah, we're good.
[54:01]
» Okay. The time is 1:25 and we are out of
executive session.
[54:08]
And you want me to wait in case she's
coming in?
[54:10]
» No, go ahead.
>> Okay. We have a resolution number
[54:15]
2026.08.17.06
[54:18]
reclassification of roads and services
department car uh personnel for Caroline
[54:25]
» Frolic Frolic. Whereas the continuing
need exists to maintain proper staffing
[54:30]
within the Sugar Creek Township roads
and services department and whereas
[54:34]
township admir administrator Barry P.
Tiffany is requesting the
[54:38]
reclassification of Caroline Frolic from
part-time service worker one to
[54:43]
full-time service worker one and whereas
Mr. Barry P. Tiffany states that the
[54:48]
2026 budget has sufficient funds allowed
for this reclassification.
[54:53]
Now therefore, be it resolved that
Caroline Frolic shall be reclassified to
[54:58]
a position of full-time at the pay rate
of $21.50
[55:03]
per hour payable on a bi-weekly basis.
It is further resolved this
[55:08]
reclassification shall have an effective
date of December 14th, 2026 and is
[55:13]
subject to a one-year probationary
period ending December 14th, 2026. I
[55:19]
will make that motion.
>> Should be 2027.
[55:22]
2027.
>> I'll correct that.
[55:25]
» All right. So, I will make that motion
as corrected.
[55:31]
» I second that.
>> Mr. Kramer.
[55:33]
» Yes.
>> Miss Pitterbone.
[55:36]
» Yes.
>> Mrs. Dan.
[55:38]
» Yes.
>> That's all we have. Thank you.
[55:40]
» Motion carried. All right. The time is
126 and the meeting is adjourned.
[55:47]
» Oh gosh.
>> There we go. [laughter] So first I was
[55:50]
going to give