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Great, now we can begin. We can
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start right now. Beautiful. Hello,
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everyone. This is the
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regularly scheduled meeting of the Syracuse
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Landmarks Preservation Board,
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and today is September 17,
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2026. Present at today's meeting
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are
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Nicole Freginato,
[3:54]
Kyle Gregory,
[3:55]
Jeff Romano,
[3:57]
Hillary Donahue,
[3:58]
Samuel Prescott,
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and Kate Alwider.
[4:02]
Excuse me,
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Howard, and
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we're waiting for Pat. Yes.
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Okay, thank you. Can I have a
[4:09]
motion to accept the minutes of
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August 27th?
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I will make a motion to accept the
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minutes. Do
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I have someone to back her up? I
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second that.
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Any changes or modifications to those
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minutes? There is no audience. All in favor,
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according to what was presented. Against?
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Abstaining? The motion is approved.
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Public hearings, excuse me. The
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board will now conduct
[4:34]
public hearings on
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today's agenda. First, the
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applicant or the applicant's representative will be invited
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to describe the scope of the
[4:41]
project work and submit
[4:42]
any materials and documentation
[4:44]
related to the proposal to the board
[4:46]
. Next, those who
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wish to speak in favor of the proposal
[4:50]
will have the opportunity to address
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the board. Then, those who
[4:54]
wish to speak out against it may
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address the board. Finally, the
[4:59]
applicant or representative will have the
[5:01]
opportunity to make
[5:02]
final comments to the board. Following the
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public comments, the board
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may vote to approve, approve with
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conditions, or deny the request that has
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just been heard. The board
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may also decide to uphold its decision
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until the next public hearing.
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If the hearing is closed, no
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additional information will be allowed to be recorded in the minutes, except for that which
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the board may request. That
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information will be available for
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public review with
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board staff. Staff, submit our
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first application.
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That would be me. Very good. The first
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application is CA-26-19. It is a
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certificate of suitability for 120
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Dorset Road. It's for
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garage repairs and new doors. Actually, it's
[5:46]
more of a
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garage reconstruction and some new doors. The
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property is located in the
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Berkeley Park Preservation District. And
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we have Tom DiTullio here to
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speak on behalf of the project.
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Good morning. Good morning, board of
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directors. How are you today?
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Brilliant. Thank you.
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Okay, can I bring you something to wear when you're
[6:04]
introducing yourselves?
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Clear. I'm Tom DiTullio. Tom Thomas J.
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DiTullio Architects, 237 Woody Ave,
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Syracuse, New York.
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Thank you, sir.
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A few of these every now and then,
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so... Actually, it became,
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as Kate said, more of a
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rebuild than a simple
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repair. Once we went inside and
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started inspecting, the walls
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are basically brand new walls, brand
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new concrete walls, brand
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new concrete block walls, which are
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different from the ones the house already has. On
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three sides of it. And we have
[6:32]
excessive deterioration and faults such as
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bowing, cracks and some
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excessive deterioration around both
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sides. So, we're going to have to
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dig around there. The only problem is
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that we have a rear easement
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where the power lines run through
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the back of Dorset, right here
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on the hill. Therefore, we cannot
[6:52]
reinstall electrical equipment
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there or near the neighbors. Well, we'll have to do a
[6:55]
lot of digging by hand and use
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small machinery. To keep the
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cost down and prevent the poor man from
[7:00]
paying $100,000 for a garage, we're
[7:03]
trying to do everything we can.
[7:05]
One of the things we are considering
[7:06]
to save costs is the
[7:08]
tilting door. We thought about ordering a
[7:10]
wooden tilt-up door, and we can
[7:12]
get them, but they take between 180
[7:13]
and 200 days. So waiting that
[7:16]
long, leaving us in winter and doing
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all the concrete work
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outside, would be a bit costly and
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inefficient. It would probably cost
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twice as much as the concrete work,
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having to heat and maintain it. That's
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one of the fears we have.
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Apart from that, everything will go back to
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exactly as it is now. I
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showed her photographs with salt water,
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and she has all the photographs of
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what's there now. The
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interior front of the garage and the
[7:44]
main entrance beam have failed so
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drastically that the door is
[7:49]
rotting halfway through. Okay, I'm
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going to look at the photos. Yes of
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course. As you can see, we don't want
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the failure to compromise the
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roof system and structure. So,
[8:02]
with that in mind, it's a bit
[8:05]
difficult to find cost savings to
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do something, but currently, one of
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the things we can offer would be to
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replace the doors with a
[8:15]
metal door that looks the same. And it looks like
[8:18]
the house, the garage, was built in the
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1930s, 1940s compared
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to the house in that neighborhood, which is
[8:26]
from the 1880s. So, this
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is during the pre-war, post-war,
[8:32]
World War II era. Well, I think it
[8:35]
was an addition. And as you can see,
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there are large old cracks all over the place
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, so we don't want to lose the
[8:45]
garage and we don't want you to have to
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spend a lot of money on this
[8:49]
garage. Everything is going to be ridiculously
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expensive, so that's something we're asking for:
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an exemption to use an
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insulated metal door instead of ordering
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a wooden door.
[9:15]
If you want to go back to the inspection,
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Kate, go down a little. It should show the
[9:19]
easement on the back.
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It should show the
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limited easement. It's quite close to where
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the garage is. And there's
[9:25]
quite a steep slope going up.
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Therefore, we want to try to avoid that
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. Does
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the easement run down the side or
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is it at the back? It runs right along
[9:36]
the back of the building. If
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you look at some of the photographs,
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you can see that the power lines
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run down the back of the
[9:43]
property line there.
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This...? Excuse me, is the easement
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indicated in...?
[9:47]
Yes, we have power lines
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crossing the bottom. You can look at the
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right side of the inspection and then,
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okay.
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Towards the bottom, where they
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pass. And because it's a very
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steep slope, you know, you want to excavate
[10:05]
a platform so the equipment can
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work properly and then...
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But you know, there's no way to get in
[10:13]
there and work efficiently with
[10:14]
larger equipment.
[10:18]
Let's go back to...Here we go. Okay.
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since this is a
[10:28]
public hearing, I need to ask if there is
[10:30]
anyone here who would like to speak in favor
[10:32]
of this project. I haven't heard or seen
[10:36]
anyone, is there anyone here who wants to
[10:38]
speak out against this project? Let him show
[10:40]
up. I haven't heard or seen
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anyone. I request that the
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public hearing be closed.
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Audience comments.
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Excuse me, the public hearing is now closed
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. Board comments,
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questions about this project?
[10:59]
One question I have is: what type
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of material do you plan to use to repair
[11:04]
the stucco? Do you plan to repair it with the
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same cementitious base?
[11:09]
Well, the stucco there has a
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much higher cement content than
[11:12]
what we can buy on the market.
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We're going to use it. It provides
[11:16]
much better waterproofing. One of the
[11:18]
little tricks that
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old historical bricks have is that they
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usually have a high lime content and
[11:24]
all their mortars because it gives them
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impermeability. And the mortar
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you buy now at S&M is a bit
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lower than that and tends to cut the
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brick anyway. So
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when you make stucco with this, you would use
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the higher lime content because
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you want a more waterproof one. And it will be
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sprayed to obtain the same stucco.
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Okay, we'll keep the same texture.
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Yes, we want to maintain exactly the
[11:45]
same texture and it will be painted the same
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color as it is now.
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That was my main concern.
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My only comment about the slope
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. You feel that this small swelling
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right against the building is enough,
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or things should probably be
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moved.
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Well, what we're going to do is put
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some large green tiles behind
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the back when we create the
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slope, and some stone beds
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so we can drain the water and let it
[12:13]
drain naturally towards the
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entrance area.
[12:16]
Yes, I hate to see all the work done and then
[12:19]
the problem repeats itself.
[12:21]
In 3 more years, yes. Are
[12:24]
you going to put a bookshelf back there
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?
[12:26]
Yes, we'll put a bookshelf back there
[12:27]
.
[12:27]
You will make a bookshelf to work on.
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Okay, it will be 3 or 4 feet
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deep and then we'll dig
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deeper and put in some larger stones
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for drainage. It
[12:38]
will also work with the garden. They
[12:40]
have a garden back there.
[12:41]
Okay, so you'll divert it. You'll
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divert it around.
[12:44]
Okay.
[12:45]
And you will move it away from the structure. It will be
[12:48]
a complete excavation of that
[12:50]
back wall, right?
[12:51]
Yes, we will have to get down to the
[12:52]
foundations and verify that they are not
[12:54]
compromised or faulty.
[12:55]
Yes, okay.
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And then repair it if necessary.
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Okay. There's a
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lot I can't see. I don't know from the
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inside with 3 feet of snow and dirt
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against it, so.
[13:05]
Okay. Any comments about the
[13:07]
door?
[13:13]
It is partially hidden from the
[13:14]
street.
[13:15]
Yes.
[13:15]
Um, it's visible, but not directly on
[13:18]
the street.
[13:20]
Mhm. Well,
[13:23]
yes, there is an elevation change of
[13:24]
about 9 feet from the street side
[13:25]
to where the garage is.
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Therefore, it's really difficult to see anything
[13:29]
other than the crest of the garage from the
[13:30]
street.
[13:31]
Correct. So, we have a
[13:33]
raised panel.
[13:35]
Okay, let's try to imitate the door
[13:36]
.
[13:38]
The existing one is flat.
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Is the existing one a flat panel?
[13:41]
It looks like a flat panel. Yes.
[13:45]
Can they go to
[13:46]
the image of the existing one
[13:47]
towards the end?
[13:49]
Yes, there's the proposal with the
[13:51]
raised panel.
[13:52]
And then,
[13:53]
if we look at the existing one, it's a
[13:55]
flat panel. Did they explore the possibility of
[13:58]
looking at a flatter panel in the...?
[14:00]
Unfortunately, all they have are
[14:03]
raised panel designs. These days everyone
[14:11]
wants more elegant things, so
[14:14]
yes, but now we're, you know,
[14:17]
changing the material and that, and also
[14:20]
changing the design, or what the
[14:25]
board of directors thinks about it. Does anyone
[14:28]
want to comment on this
[14:29]
? If we can get a
[14:32]
flat panel, I don't know if it's possible.
[14:34]
Yes, I don't know if we can get one.
[14:37]
I will ask them beforehand to order the
[14:39]
flat panel instead of the raised panel.
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And it's a big change in character.
[14:44]
Yes.
[14:44]
I'm
[14:49]
trying to see if the aluminum door
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itself doesn't have wood grain,
[14:52]
right? It's just flat steel.
[14:56]
But we can make the
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wood grain a part of it. I
[14:58]
'm not asking, I don't think we want to
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. I
[15:00]
'm not asking for that. I'm just making
[15:02]
sure it's not there.
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Without wood grain.
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Okay.
[15:05]
Without wood grain. Yes.
[15:07]
Well, we're trying to meet
[15:09]
the board's expectations, so
[15:11]
... Well, we don't want to counterfeit the
[15:12]
product, do we? Therefore,
[15:14]
engraving wood grain on an
[15:16]
aluminum panel is counterfeiting it from the
[15:18]
board's perspective in terms of
[15:20]
historical standards.
[15:22]
That's not what my wife thinks about
[15:23]
our garage door.
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So, if it's a smooth panel or
[15:27]
smooth metallic aluminum, if it's possible
[15:30]
for us to put a flat panel on it,
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I think that would be my request. And if
[15:35]
the board agrees with that.
[15:36]
Clear. Yes.
[15:37]
Well, I'll check with the manufacturer to see if they
[15:39]
make smooth panels. Will you
[15:41]
say that again?
[15:41]
I will check with the manufacturer to see if they make
[15:42]
a door with a smooth panel.
[15:44]
Yes, smooth, smooth, flat panel, not without
[15:47]
relief, with a smooth finish. Any
[15:51]
other comments? We need to consider
[15:54]
whether to approve, disapprove, or approve with
[15:56]
conditions. Are
[15:57]
you going to do anything about the roof? I didn't see
[15:59]
any.
[16:00]
No, luckily the roof is in
[16:01]
pretty good condition, and that's why
[16:03]
we want to shore it up and do all the
[16:04]
work we can before
[16:06]
winter arrives and snow loads start to build up
[16:08]
when we try to support it with
[16:10]
temporary shoring and supports.
[16:14]
Okay.
[16:20]
Roof, soffit, all that
[16:21]
existing work remains. And the front wall
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is rebuilt exactly as it was.
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The front wall will be rebuilt exactly as is,
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with wider molding panels that
[16:32]
match the
[16:34]
surrounding molding.
[16:35]
Is the size of the door panel the
[16:36]
same as the size of the
[16:37]
existing openings? The
[16:38]
same as the
[16:39]
existing openings, yes. Right now they are a
[16:40]
9 x 7 foot door. So, it's either that one or
[16:43]
8 x 7. It's one of the two
[16:45]
standard sizes.
[16:48]
That door looks about 30 years old.
[16:53]
So, it's not actually that old,
[16:55]
but it's very deteriorated. Would there be
[16:57]
any document?
[17:04]
This is a later neighborhood designation
[17:06]
. I don't know
[17:07]
. Is the only documentation we
[17:09]
have
[17:10]
from 2017?
[17:11]
Yes.
[17:12]
When the district was like that
[17:13]
, in the early
[17:15]
2000s. The photos would be from the
[17:17]
early 2000s, I think.
[17:20]
And that would include that or...Okay, I just
[17:22]
want...
[17:24]
Yes, and in fact I think the only
[17:26]
images we have are of the house
[17:28]
itself and not of the secondary structures
[17:30]
.
[17:31]
So, are we really that worried if it's
[17:32]
a 30-year-old door? I
[17:36]
mean, does it look like
[17:37]
a 30-year-old door?
[17:38]
To me it looks like the door of a house where I
[17:40]
grew up. The house was built around
[17:42]
the same time I was born. So yes
[17:45]
, okay.
[17:47]
You know, this one looks...Yeah, this one looks like
[17:51]
Newark.
[17:53]
Okay. OK. If there are any further questions
[17:56]
, may I put a motion on the
[17:57]
table, please? I
[17:59]
move to approve the
[18:00]
application as submitted. I
[18:03]
second that.
[18:04]
Any comments or additions on
[18:06]
this? OK. We have a
[18:10]
motion on the table. Is everyone in favor?
[18:12]
Yes.
[18:13]
Against? The motion is approved.
[18:16]
Thank you so much, guys. Good luck with the
[18:18]
project.
[18:25]
Thank you. We don't want that to happen.
[18:26]
Thank you so much.
[18:31]
Okay, I think it's my turn again. It's
[18:34]
garage day.
[18:35]
So yes, it's garage day. The
[18:38]
next request is CA-26-20.
[18:42]
Again, a certificate of suitability for
[18:44]
301 Highland Avenue. It is also a
[18:47]
garage door replacement. Well,
[18:50]
it's a garage door replacement. The
[18:53]
district is the
[18:55]
Sedgwick Highland Preservation District and the
[18:58]
owner is here to talk
[19:00]
about his project.
[19:03]
Good morning. My name is Dan Stevens
[19:06]
and I am one of the
[19:08]
property owners.
[19:09]
Welcome.
[19:11]
Thank you.
[19:14]
So, if you could
[19:15]
quickly describe what your
[19:17]
project is about and the reasons why at this time
[19:19]
...
[19:20]
Sure. As you can see, the garage is
[19:26]
separate from the residence. The garage
[19:31]
itself is on Oak Street. I think it's roughly
[19:35]
the sixth block of Oak
[19:38]
Street. And the garage, I think the
[19:42]
residence was built in 1901. I think
[19:46]
the garage is about 20 years
[19:49]
younger, but almost from the same period. In
[19:54]
fact, there is one...you can't see it very
[19:56]
well in the photograph, but there is a
[19:59]
fireplace on the back wall inside the
[20:01]
garage, which I believe was used to
[20:04]
keep the vehicles warm
[20:06]
while they were stored over the
[20:08]
winter. So it's no longer in
[20:11]
operation. It's just a kind of
[20:13]
picturesque architectural relic.
[20:18]
The doors have been in the snow and
[20:21]
ice for a century and over time
[20:26]
that has caused the
[20:29]
lower door panels to
[20:32]
gradually deteriorate despite
[20:35]
painting and some restoration.
[20:43]
Finally, the door, the
[20:47]
right-hand door, had... There was a
[20:57]
metal plate that was embedded in a
[21:00]
wooden panel at the bottom of the
[21:03]
door, and the chain and pulley system
[21:06]
that raised the door was connected
[21:13]
to that plate. The plaque, due to the
[21:15]
deterioration of the surrounding wood,
[21:18]
simply separated from the wood.
[21:23]
Now there's a hole in the door. And
[21:26]
I called three different
[21:29]
door restoration companies to
[21:32]
come and look at it. The three of them told me
[21:36]
that it couldn't be repaired again. And they
[21:41]
all recommended replacing the door
[21:46]
with composite steel, which is the most
[21:49]
modern thing in 2026, as far as I understand
[21:54]
. To be able to do so, for two reasons. I
[22:02]
have decided to request the repair of
[22:04]
both doors, even though the
[22:06]
left door still works. It's within
[22:11]
the same timeframe. Over time, it will also
[22:15]
fail for the same reasons of
[22:17]
snow and ice. And I want them to look the
[22:20]
same. I don't want one to turn
[22:22]
one way and the other another.
[22:25]
Additionally, the garage doors
[22:30]
cannot be locked at this time
[22:33]
. And if someone enters the garage...
[22:44]
Both cars that were stored
[22:47]
there were broken into last year. That's why
[22:51]
I'm interested in ensuring that, as part of
[22:53]
this project, we can also close
[22:56]
the door so that no one but me
[22:59]
can enter. I'll be happy to
[23:05]
answer any questions.
[23:08]
Thank you. Well, this is a
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public hearing, so I need to ask
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if there is anyone here in the audience
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who would like to speak in favor of this
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project. Nobody here. Does anyone want to
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speak out against this project?
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Nobody here. Then we can close
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the public comment. Board, any
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questions for the applicant? Any
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comments? May I
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speak for just a second? It
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's on the table.
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In fact, I can give you this. This is a
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little more information about the...
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Thank you.
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So they're cut off. That, uh, uh,
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Mr. Stevens and I had
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also talked about all the different
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window arrangements, and, uh, this
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was the window arrangement he
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included in his application, uh, and, uh, there are
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also simpler ones
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available; But we had,
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uh, as you can see, uh, they are some that
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perhaps look a little more like what we have
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now.
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Yes. Did
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you consider making two
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window panels that replicate what's there
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now? Did you consider that option?
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I wanted to discourage people from looking out of
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the windows. There's really no
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point in having windows. The cars
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live there. They don't look out the window.
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That is an existing window. You can
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see that he is, uh, I guess at my
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height. Then, someone on the street
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can come in and look and see what's
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there. The higher windows seem to
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discourage that, and people just
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walk right past, which is what I want them to
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do.
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So, I had the same question,
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but I was wondering, and I understand the
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concern about security, of
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course. But would they be open to
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adding lower-level windows and
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putting a privacy film on
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both? Therefore, you would still
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maintain the overall appearance and
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proportion of the glazing, but
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no one would be able to see inside.
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Therefore, the privacy film would
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also add an extra layer
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of durability against the possibility of
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people breaking the glass or something
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like that. Therefore, it wouldn't be the same as
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the steel panel, but you would retain
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the look, the overall proportion of the
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glazing, and prevent
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people from seeing inside for a
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minimal additional cost.
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Yes, I'm open to that, definitely. In
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the last 5 years, there have been two
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incidents where people came and
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broke the windows of two cars.
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Yes. I thought this provision was
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more likely to discourage that. That's why I
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prefer it, but it's not the hill where I
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want to die.
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Well, what we're talking about in
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this case is maintaining the
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visual character of the garage.
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Yes. That's why
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having the double row of lights
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was always there. It let the
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light in. You can, you know, there are other
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windows in the garage, but it presents
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a more street-friendly facade
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and your garage is a couple of
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feet from the sidewalk. It is very pronounced. And
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I'd like you to include a picture of
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the house with the garage too, because it's
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a striking combination, I think. The
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house. The house is great. But just to
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show the character that was included,
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even though the garage is 20 years
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younger, I think it
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charismatically connects the house and you're on
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the edge of the district. And so, for
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me, it's very important to maintain those
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characteristics even though we're on the edge
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because once we start to lose
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that pedestrian scale or that
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fenestration pattern, we start to degrade the
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edge of the district's edge. You don't know what
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I mean. Do you understand what I'm
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saying?
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Well, this is true. I suppose if
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you think of the Sedgwick district as if it
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were the Monopoly board, this
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is Baltic Avenue. And it really is.
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It's just around the corner from
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Highland Ave. It's on your way to
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Oak Street. So, it's not the area we
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're looking at, it's not what people
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think of as the classic
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Sedgwick district. Across the street, across
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Oak Street, there is a 217 Highland
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Avenue. It's empty and has been
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for almost 10 years.
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Yes.
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Anyway, nobody is looking at that
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property. The house adjacent to 217
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Highland Avenue, 215 Highland Avenue
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, is also unoccupied. Nobody lives
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there either. It's been empty for a while.
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If you continue down Highland Avenue or
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Oak Street, sorry. The next
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building is another garage. And next door is what
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used to be a
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photography shop.
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That's closed too. So, there's
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not much there. It's not Old
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Sturbridge Village. Nobody comes to
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walk around and look at these properties. It's
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just a building where
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cars live. And I'm trying to keep
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the cars protected.
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Understood. But are you open to a
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film that, as Cal mentioned,
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would be a privacy film for
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that?
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Yes, I am.
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Okay, I think that's a
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really good comment, a
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really good solution. Any other
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board members who would like to
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comment? And then we have to
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draft a motion here. And then
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do we make single-row windows that are
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simplified, more like the
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Stockbridge model?
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Yes, I guess I don't know. I
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agree with a row of windows.
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I would prefer the Stockbridge model.
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I appreciate the additional set of
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vertical lines on the doors. You
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know, it's not just the standard.
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Yes, the appearance of the large blackboard is
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...
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Yes, complementary to what's there. It's
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a good catch.
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Yes.
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No further comments?
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Was that a motion or...?
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No, any other comments?
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May I make
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any further comments? Go ahead, but
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if there is a motion, please
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introduce it.
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I propose approving the project as
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presented, with a change from
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Prairie windows to
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Stockbridge windows for the top row of windows
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.
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Okay, we have a motion. Do we have
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someone to support her?
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I suppose I'd like to see the
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small additional glazing.
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Okay, we could... We can...
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amend that.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Or if there is no one to second it,
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then that motion fails. And
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then a new
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motion can be made. OK.
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If we don't have anyone to
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second it, that motion will fail.
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OK. Please, let's put a new
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motion on the table.
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I propose accepting the request as
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presented, with the modification that
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we keep the windows in the
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second row, but with the
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vertical mullions. And a
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privacy film to discourage people from
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looking. Do
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we have anyone who supports that motion
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that's on the table?
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Support.
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Any discussion or
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modifications regarding this? No one is
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in favor of the motion.
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I.
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Against? The motion is approved.
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Thank you so much. Thank you.
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Any questions? They can
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contact Kate. It's very simple.
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If you have any questions,
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that's fine. Okay
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, thank you very much. Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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Great. Keep it up.
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Thank you. I have nothing more for
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you today. So, there are no new
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issues or any particular topics for discussion
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at this time. Well,
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unless someone else has something. No.
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It's fine.
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Good motion to adjourn the session.
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Support. Is everyone in favor?
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Yes. The
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motion is approved.
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Very good.
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job.