[0:00] The regular meeting of the Texa County, Arkansas Planning Commission is called

[0:04] to order. Agendas are available on the rails, so make so help yourself. We will

[0:09] take the items as they are listed on the agenda. I will read each item and ask

[0:13] the person representing the request to come forward to the podium. Please state

[0:19] your name and address for the recording secretary.

[0:22] Present any information you and make any comments you have about your request. be

[0:28] prepared to respond to any questions that members of the planning commission

[0:32] may have of you. Thank you. Item number one, roll call.

[0:38] » Anita Picket, >> present.

[0:42] » Jason Depri is absent. Uh Boots Thomas is absent. Dr. Hickerson

[0:47] » here. >> Chris Owens

[0:49] » here. >> Cory Mobs

[0:51] » here. >> And Chairman Neil

[0:53] » here. We have a quorum and we can conduct business.

[0:57] Second item, adoption of the summarized minutes.

[1:02] Have each commissioner had an opportunity to review the the minutes.

[1:07] If you need any more time, if all are satisfied, the chair would

[1:13] entertain a motion. >> I move we approve the minutes as

[1:16] presented. >> Have a motion and a second to approve

[1:20] the minutes. All in favor? I. >> Any oppose? Minutes are passed.

[1:27] Item number three,

[1:32] ordinance revision, request by Texas County, Arkansas Police Department to

[1:37] revise the draft truck stop ordinance to include a requirement for security

[1:42] cameras. >> Um, well, first of all, we're at a bit

[1:45] of a disadvantage tonight because our internet has been out all day, so we

[1:49] don't have our PowerPoint. So, I'm going to need you to rely on your packets.

[1:54] [laughter] Um,

[1:57] TAP, as you remember, we passed, we passed the truck stop ordinance. It has

[2:01] not gone to the board of directors yet. Um, we're trying to push as much as we

[2:06] can into next year because of the budget that they're fighting with right now.

[2:11] Um, but TAPD has asked us to add a requirement for security cameras.

[2:17] So, in the ordinance that we drafted, there is a

[2:25] section entitled administrative requirements

[2:28] and that says all requests for a truck stop shall be accompanied by the

[2:32] following items. A site plan, a traffic impact study, a water runoff and

[2:39] drainage study, a lighting plan, and I have added in there a security camera

[2:44] plan. That make sense?

[2:47] Yeah. And I think they'll have security cameras anyway, but tap this is

[2:51] » better safe than sorry. >> Cover all the bases.

[2:54] » Yeah. >> All right.

[2:58] » Is that all that's necessary to appeal that requirement?

[3:02] » Mhm. >> Okay. All right. Any questions from

[3:05] commissioners?

[3:08] The chair would entertain a motion. >> I move that we approve the item number

[3:15] three. Second.

[3:18] » We chair has a a motion and second to approve the ordinance revision for truck

[3:24] stops. >> Roll call.

[3:27] » Anita Picket. >> Yes.

[3:29] » Dr. Hickerson, >> yes.

[3:31] » Chris Owens, >> yes.

[3:32] » Cory Mobs, >> yes.

[3:33] » And Chairman Neil, >> yes.

[3:36] » Item number three passes.

[3:41] Okay. Item number four, reszoning request.

[3:45] Request by coart that investments to reszone the property located at 3411

[3:52] east from C3 open display commercial to a

[3:57] planned unit development for the purpose of building duplexes. property is

[4:02] legally described as park southeast southwest section 4 township 16 south

[4:09] range 28 west of Miller County Arkansas containing 5 acres more or less water

[4:16] » okay this property on this map in your packet this property is located on East

[4:22] Street located east of old Blackman Ferry Road if you've ever driven down

[4:27] there's an old abandoned building that says Bucks and ducks on it. That's the

[4:33] property that we're talking about. Um there is

[4:45] find on my maps. >> Looks like there's two buildings on it

[4:49] already. >> Those two buildings are going to be

[4:51] demolished. >> So they'll be demolishing those

[4:54] buildings. On your zoning map, the property is currently zoned C3.

[5:00] It does butt up to R1 residential property, but they would be reszoning it

[5:05] to a PUD, which means that that's all they can build on there. Um, are the

[5:11] duplexes that they're requesting. There is a 6-in water line on the north

[5:17] side of 71. They're pulling a permit from the Arkansas Department of

[5:22] Transportation to bore under 71 to connect to that water line. They have

[5:27] had perk tests done by the Department of Health. And you should have in your

[5:32] packet a site plan that has the U septic fields on it. It's the one that has the

[5:39] red squares on it.

[5:43] Now, they are required to submit a preliminary plat. They don't have that

[5:47] plat tonight. So tonight we're just approving the site plan. They'll have to

[5:52] come back in January with the preliminary plat and they're looking at

[5:56] doing five duplexes. Um

[6:00] I have had a phone call about inquiries about what they were going to put there,

[6:04] but I've not had anyone formally complain about it.

[6:14] » Do we know the square footage on each duplex? Um,

[6:17] » I'm trying to spin it and see. >> It's I don't know if I gave

[6:22] » Okay. >> And yes, calling the developer is here.

[6:26] » Oh,

[6:37] and the culde-sac is okay. >> The culde-sac they are the site plan you

[6:42] have has been revised. They sent it to me today. Of course, I could not print

[6:45] it because I have no internet. Um, they had to increase the culde-sac by 8 feet

[6:51] because you have to have 98 feet width for the fire department

[6:55] » fire trucks. >> I'm sorry, not 98, 96. So, that has been

[6:59] um revised on the new site plan. We had a meeting with all the uh utility

[7:06] companies, uh the fire department, um

[7:12] building official, and everybody went over the site plan there.

[7:22] » Any uh how many notices went out to

[7:27] » 16? >> 16. And I ended up calling Terry today

[7:31] just to get his opinion since it's his board and he said this would be an asset

[7:35] to the area.

[7:39] » Good deal. All right. Anything else? Sh. >> I don't have anything else. Like I said,

[7:44] the developers here. If you have any questions.

[7:47] » All right. Is there if there's someone here that wants to speak for the

[7:50] project, >> just come forward. State your name.

[7:58] step up here. >> Yes,

[7:59] » that's great. >> Um, my name is Tracy Harris. Uh, I'm

[8:03] actually the my wife actually is now co-owner with the heirs of the property

[8:08] immediately to the south. Uh, was formerly JW Lingo 3417 East Street. I

[8:14] don't think the family, the whole family is not opposed to certainly increasing

[8:18] the area, proper development in the area, all of those things. We've just

[8:23] been through estate planning, just had an estate sale. I do know that the roads

[8:27] across the street are present here and I have not conversed with them. I don't

[8:31] know about their feelings and certainly want to let the developers know we're

[8:35] not here to like oppose or say hey absolutely not. We can't reszone it. The

[8:40] only the only thing I would request because I don't feel like that the

[8:43] family feels we have sufficient information to say yes we're fully in

[8:49] favor. Yes, we oppose it because we don't really have the ramifications. We

[8:54] had the house up for sale and we actually had a contract on the house uh

[8:59] that the individuals I think were concerned about. Uhoh, you know, now

[9:03] we're reszoning this. We don't know whether we need to go forward or not. It

[9:07] certainly that aspect of the delay negatively affected the family. Of

[9:11] course, in that regard of what our potential future was, it has nothing to

[9:16] do with being for or against the property. In fact, anything will look

[9:20] better than a burned out hole of a house and what's developed there there. So,

[9:24] we're not at all opposed to that the improvement of the property. I think

[9:27] it's just important to know what the future does hold for the residential

[9:31] homes in the area. I'm very familiar with the PUD. I know that that is

[9:36] restrictive to exactly what they are saying they're going to build. They have

[9:40] to build whatever the PU So, that's not a problem. I don't I'm not concerned

[9:43] about it being wide open on development and all that. I think my biggest concern

[9:47] would be we don't have the internet up. I don't have a printed plat in front of

[9:51] me as far as what actually that's going to look like or

[9:54] » I don't have a plat. I have >> But that's what I heard you say. And so

[9:58] I'm wondering about the plat if I'm just wondering about that. I know if I'm

[10:03] them, I want to get this approved right now for the first of the year. So I'm in

[10:06] no way trying to be antagonistic and saying, "Hey, you guys got to wait

[10:10] another month." But the thing that does concern me is don't have the platform.

[10:14] And would love to have a conversation with you guys about kind of what that

[10:17] looks like. be thrilled to do that. Um, but really I'm respectfully going to ask

[10:23] that you consider a yay or nay vote on it to approve it as

[10:28] far as the reasoning until we have the plaid in front of us and can properly

[10:32] respond to what that actually looks like on access and egress and since the

[10:37] borderland absolutely specifically borders to the south the 4 acres that

[10:43] you know is now in the estate. It would it would def defin definitely

[10:49] impact I guess the access egress of a a person that's buying a single family

[10:54] dwelling and what does all that look like? So I just respectfully ask not

[10:57] that you deny or you know approve it either way. I mean I don't know that

[11:01] we're even opposed to it. It's just that I don't think without the plat we have

[11:05] the information to say we can properly speak to

[11:10] whether or not we would be opposed at the impact on the personal residence. So

[11:14] anyway, >> thank you for your

[11:17] back.

[11:20] » They'll have to come back in January preliminary class and then [snorts] once

[11:26] the board of directors approves the resim,

[11:31] they have to bring back a final. Now if the final does not have any significant

[11:37] changes to it, then we can just approve it in house.

[11:41] » But if it changes significantly [snorts] It has to come back,

[11:46] » right? >> But they do they will have to come back

[11:48] in January. >> Yeah.

[11:51] » Either way, >> right?

[11:56] » Let me ask you this just maybe I just want to make sure I'm tracking with that

[12:00] information. So if if it's reszoned tonight though, that's set in motion.

[12:04] Whereas that reszoning could wait until January for the plat.

[12:10] It's not significantly going to hinder it. Exactly.

[12:12] » In other words, if we tabled it and didn't vote on the reasonzoning until

[12:16] January, it wouldn't significantly hinder them from submitting the plat. I

[12:19] I don't want to delay them. That's not my purpose to oppose them. It's just

[12:22] that it would be really helpful to us to get past the first of the year and see

[12:26] the plat and see exactly how it impacts the property in the area. You know,

[12:30] we're for anything that's going to improve the area for sure. But

[12:35] that's just our our >> problem

[12:42] in January. >> Thank you. That's that was all my

[12:45] request. Okay.

[12:54] » All right. Is there anyone else here to speak for the project?

[12:59] If there was if there were some things that were to be said, would they would

[13:03] they be >> Will you step to the microphone

[13:06] » and state your name and address? >> My name is Doug Roads. Um lot kind of on

[13:11] the other side of the highway there. What's your address?

[13:13] » If there were some things >> state your address and state your

[13:17] address. >> Oh, well I'm actually here with my

[13:19] mother who is there at 3500 East Street. >> Okay. Um would it be better to state any

[13:25] things that when you sit since these decisions will be being made at the next

[13:28] meeting would that be more appropriate to come and say it then?

[13:31] » Well, you feel free to share whatever you want to right now and

[13:34] » Okay. Um the concerns that I have is is just the inconsistency with the the

[13:40] disharmony of the the two zonings. The the R1 being single family uh budded

[13:46] right up next to the PED um you know effectively multif family. I just I

[13:50] don't want to make this a those people these people kind of thing, but um just

[13:56] in essence, you know, the people that live there now or are interested in

[14:00] their property values selling in the future, just as just as Mr. Harris said,

[14:04] the sale being held up because of this possibility. Um the people in the area

[14:08] there do have some concerns. I've spoken with several of them about the way that

[14:12] may affect things. Um, now I'm a landlord and I have single family home

[14:19] and multif family as well, both. And so, like I say, there's nothing to say that

[14:25] inherently this is worse than that. But there, you know, if you're the homeowner

[14:31] and the resident, you're going to you're going to take care of a property better.

[14:35] If you're a landlord and not living there, you're you have a financial

[14:39] vested interest in taking care of the property, but you're still not going to

[14:42] take care of it as good as you do your house. And if you are not the owner and

[14:46] you live there, you have a very temporary uh connection to that

[14:51] property. Um I have a great relationship with many of my tenants. Um it's not

[14:56] about the it's not about the situation uh that but it just in general that has

[15:01] been my experience for 20 years as I've been doing it for 20 years. So I kind of

[15:06] have onhand experience about this. I got a call just on the way here tonight. As

[15:09] a matter of fact, one one of the tenants and one of my f multifamilies was

[15:15] yelling at a tenant from two doors down and they were having a big fight about

[15:21] whatever it was going on. got a third tenant involved and those kind of

[15:25] things, you know, they don't happen because it's multif family, but when you

[15:29] have people close together, they can have it. And so when people have been

[15:33] living in a single family or one for years and years, you can see how this

[15:38] would concern the neighborhood. I mean, I I hope you could at least see that

[15:43] possibility. Um, it's not about what it looks like now. Probably be beautiful

[15:47] once they build it. I don't know what their plans are. Like I say, I'd like to

[15:51] see it as well. Uh but you know if it changes hands, how will the next

[15:55] landlord take care of it? What's it going to look like in 20 years? Those

[15:58] things will affect the neighborhood. If the wrong landlord comes in and doesn't

[16:02] take care of the property, it will definitely affect those homes. And so

[16:06] there is a concern there. A resident owner will always take care of a

[16:10] property better than any any of the either two situations. So that's kind of

[16:16] what I have to say. There may be some others as well, but thank you very much.

[16:19] » Thanks, sir.

[16:24] Do we have anyone else that'd like to come forward and express their opinion

[16:29] for the property, for the project, the ANA, the developers? Anything you

[16:36] want to share that might address anything that you've heard thus far?

[16:45] Nope. Not this. All right.

[16:50] I think concern also I think we should table it consider both January meeting

[16:58] you know resigning then make our decision

[17:04] » all right motion have a motion to table it do we

[17:09] have a second >> second

[17:11] » have a motion and second to table the the reszoning request to the January

[17:16] meeting roll call >> I need Pick it.

[17:20] » Yes. >> Dr. Hickerson.

[17:23] » Chris Owens. >> Yes.

[17:24] » Cory Mobs. >> Yes.

[17:26] » And Chairman Neil. >> Yes.

[17:31] » Re the resulting request is Ben Table. >> Item number five.

[17:40] » Ordinance revision. request by planning and zoning to approve an accessory

[17:44] dwelling ordinance to reflect rules and regulations recently adopted by the

[17:48] state of Arkansas. >> So

[17:52] in an attempt to solve the affordable housing issue, the state

[17:59] senate or state legislature has passed a law that basically says we have to allow

[18:06] it only it's only addressing accessory dwelling units. We're not talking about

[18:10] garages. We're not talking about shops. We're not talking about workshops. We're

[18:14] talking about what we've always called mother-in-law's quarters or um guest

[18:20] houses. And so the new law basically says that we have to allow at least one

[18:27] by right on every piece of property that has a single family home. Now, we have

[18:33] always required a conditional use permit.

[18:37] Um, so this ordinance is simply to bring us

[18:41] into compliance with Arkansas's new law. Um,

[18:47] and I've given you a copy of the actual law.

[18:52] There's several things we cannot do. Um,

[18:58] we cannot require that a member of their family live there. We cannot require any

[19:04] kind of family relationship with the person that lives in the main house. We

[19:08] cannot require that the accessory dwelling unit match the house in design

[19:15] if it's an unattached. So the accessory dwelling unit can be either external

[19:21] attached to it like an attached apartment or it can be internal.

[19:26] » Internal. >> That's what it says.

[19:30] So if it is external or attached, it can't be more than 75% of the foot space

[19:37] or the space of the primary home. We cannot require that it have its own

[19:42] utility meters.

[19:46] » We cannot regulate it as a um rental unit. They can rent it out if

[19:53] they want to, >> but it can be only up to a,000 square

[19:57] feet. It has to be the lesser amount. So the This is a thousand, right? The way I

[20:01] read it because I was mathing at my house before I came up here.

[20:05] » Probably it says that somewhere. >> Design number three. A

[20:12] » not more than 75% or a,000 square feet. Whichever is less.

[20:16] » Yes. Whichever is less. >> So you got a 2,000 square foot house.

[20:32] That's 1500 square feet. So it still would be smaller. It would still only be

[20:36] a thousand. >> We cannot require that it has additional

[20:40] parking.

[20:44] We cannot require that the single family dwelling or the accessory dwelling unit

[20:48] is occupied by the owner. So, somebody could have a single family home and

[20:53] they're renting it out and that's and they can still put an accessory dwelling

[20:58] unit in their backyard >> and rent that one out too.

[21:00] » And rent that one out too. >> Um,

[21:04] » what's the rule for parking on the street?

[21:07] » Do we have an ordinance for that? They are not required to have additional

[21:10] parking.

[21:18] » What about a single family home with an accessory?

[21:26] » Make no mistake, we're not happy about this law. And another another hiccup

[21:32] that we've run into with this law is this applies to historic districts, too.

[21:39] So where we have typically been able to regulate

[21:44] structures in historic districts, we now cannot do that.

[21:55] » Okay. What's an A1 zone? >> A1 is the mixed use zone. It's the only

[22:01] zone. So several years ago, we realized that we had people with large pieces of

[22:06] land that wanted to like build an additional home on it or build a shop on

[22:12] it. And there was really no reason that they couldn't except it was our

[22:16] ordinance. So we created the A1 zone. It's the only or zone where you can

[22:21] build a shop before you build your primary home.

[22:23] » That's right. Okay. >> Yeah. And you can have two houses on

[22:26] there. So the

[22:30] » now we have >> so that's excluding A1 zone. So that's

[22:34] the only caveat is that you can do this. >> Yeah. But if you build an accessory

[22:40] dwelling unit in A1 and you have no primary house there then basically your

[22:44] accessory dwelling unit is your primary house.

[22:47] » Now we have confirmed that you cannot use an RV or a single

[22:52] » trailer >> single single wide trailer as an

[22:54] accessory dwelling unit. We have confirmed that. We have put it in here

[22:58] that it cannot be in the side yard or the front yard. So, it has to be behind

[23:03] the rear build line, which is how far back?

[23:06] » Depends on the zone. >> Okay.

[23:09] [snorts]

[23:12] And I mean, I'm happy if y'all want to read over this and table it and read

[23:17] over it if you haven't had a chance to read over it. We're supposed to have it

[23:21] enacted by January the 1st. We're not going to have that done anyway because

[23:25] it won't go to the board until the first meeting in January. So, if you want to

[23:29] table it till you have chance to look over it, that's up to you.

[23:35] [snorts] I mean, it's not it's not something anyone's overly happy about.

[23:40] But it is the state law.

[23:45] » No, there's not anything we can do about it.

[23:47] » What does it mean by the covenants? The ordinance does not prohibit restrictive

[23:52] covenants. >> So if you have a homeowners association

[23:55] and they have a covenant that says you cannot have

[23:58] » guest houses, this doesn't preclude that.

[24:02] » Okay? >> So you can if if two private parties

[24:07] » if your homeowners association and the homeowner if they have a covenant that

[24:11] says you cannot have an accessory dwelling unit in your backyard, then

[24:16] then you can't. This doesn't preclude a covenant. HOA stand.

[24:19] » We can't require a covenant. We can't we can't say you have to have a covenant.

[24:25] But if the homeowners association on their own goes in with their homeowners

[24:30] and they agree to that, this doesn't preclude that.

[24:40] » This law been challenged by anybody. I have not seen that and I read all my

[24:47] municipal league notices.

[24:52] » This came in in effect for the last legislative session.

[24:55] » Yes, >> several challenged. Yeah,

[24:59] [clears throat]

[25:02] there are there are several that I'm working on that we need to come into

[25:07] compliance with, but I'm trying not to bombard everybody with 600 ordinance

[25:12] changes at once. >> But at the present time, we have to go

[25:16] by the state law. >> We have to go by the state law. I mean,

[25:20] the rule is if ours is in conflict with the state law, we have to go by the

[25:24] state law. But in the ordinance it says we have

[25:28] till January the 1. Um somewhere in here

[25:32] » it looks like they introduced it in February.

[25:53] » That's the Anyone else? just have a question. If we say,

[25:59] » you know, go ahead and act on it. We don't I don't see a choice if it's a

[26:05] state law. >> We don't have a choice.

[26:08] » But I want y'all to feel comfortable that you've read it. I want y'all to

[26:12] feel comfortable that you've read both of them. And if you haven't read it, I

[26:16] mean, like I said, it's not going to be enacted by January the 1st anyway

[26:19] because it's not going to The soonest I can get it to the board is the 5th. And

[26:22] it will probably actually be the

[26:27] 19th because I think they're slammed on the

[26:31] fifth already. >> This was off [clears throat] northern

[26:34] Arkansas. >> Now, you do we do know that if they

[26:38] build something, it does still have it has to meet all the codes. So, they

[26:43] can't just throw something back there. They can't throw small building back

[26:46] there or something like that. It's got to meet all the codes.

[26:49] » So, if they build if they build an accessory dwelling unit, it still has to

[26:53] meet all of our current codes. And it looked like it had to say like it had to

[26:56] have cooking, it had to have restroom, it had to have like all the things. It

[27:00] had to be completely independent. >> But the

[27:03] » but they're not required to have their own utility meters,

[27:07] » right? So you would you could potentially share utilities with the

[27:10] main homeowner's house. >> Yes.

[27:13] » But that's in the state law, right? That's specifically called out the state

[27:17] law. >> My thoughts are I don't know how to word

[27:20] it, but I think we need to adopt whatever it is.

[27:28] goes into effect. It'll be honestly with these things it's

[27:33] going to be a work in progress as everybody works out the kinks and

[27:36] figures out exactly what I mean Roger called one of our state representatives

[27:41] and he provided no input into so um you know it's gonna it's going to

[27:49] be a work in progress as everybody figures out what they really intended to

[27:52] do but we do need to enact it

[27:58] » yeah I was googling and reading all the things at the house and mapping and unit

[28:04] motion. >> Have a chair. Chair has a motion to

[28:08] approve the planning and zoning accessory dwelling ordinance. Do I have

[28:14] a second? >> Have a second. Roll call.

[28:18] » Anita Picket. >> Yes.

[28:19] » Dr. Hickerson, >> yes.

[28:21] » Chris Owens, >> yes.

[28:22] » Cory Mobs, >> yes.

[28:24] » Chairman Neil, >> yes.

[28:26] » Ordinance revision passes.

[28:32] Item [clears throat] number six, entertainment district revisions.

[28:35] Request by city manager and Tex County, Arkansas Police Department to enact

[28:40] revisions to the entertainment district for the sake of public safety or two.

[28:47] » Okay. [clears throat] So,

[28:51] we um had a workshop, a joint workshop with the board of directors on November

[28:55] the 12th. I think most of y'all were there. Um, it was heavily attended by

[29:00] the downtown business owners. And while there was much discussion back

[29:05] and forth, in the end, we did agree on three things that we felt needed to be

[29:10] changed in the entertainment um, district ordinance. Um, and those are

[29:16] the only three things that I have added to this ordinance. Actually, I've added

[29:20] four. The other one is administrative. But um the three things were banning the

[29:27] consumption of alcohol purchased outside the entertainment district because

[29:33] beforehand we had people bringing in their own alcohol. Businesses were

[29:36] losing money. Um so banning the consumption of alcohol purchased outside

[29:43] the entertainment district. So, if Bobby has been fishing and he has a

[29:49] cooler full of beer in the back of his truck and he's not drinking it, that's

[29:53] fine. But you can't bring in alcohol from outside and drink it. The second

[29:59] thing was to remove the block containing the Rock liquor store. remove that block

[30:05] from the entertainment district because it was in the entertainment district

[30:08] which meant you could buy alcohol there and still be buying it in the

[30:13] entertainment district and walk out the door and drink it. So to remove that

[30:17] block from the entertainment district >> the third thing was to restrict the

[30:24] hours for open drinking from 11:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m. 11:00 a.m. to midnight. It

[30:30] was previously two o'clock in the morning.

[30:34] And the only other thing we added um which Boots brought up is we're supposed

[30:38] to review the entertainment district every year as needed, but no one had the

[30:44] responsibility of doing that. So we have put that responsibility on my position

[30:49] to make sure that it gets reviewed every six months.

[30:53] » Every six months instead of every year. >> Well, every year. Right now we're

[30:57] reviewing it in January again. So um those are the only three changes that I

[31:04] have put in there. Those are the three that we agreed on at that workshop.

[31:09] Okay. >> Um

[31:13] this is in my opinion a starting place. Um we will review that again in January

[31:18] and see where we are.

[31:26] » Okay. Any other questions?

[31:32] Yes. Do we have anybody that wants to make a comment? Come forward.

[31:39] » Oh, yeah. >> Colin 6211 Tennessee Road. Um, we

[31:44] are a property owner. Um, within that block of the Rock House, I think is

[31:51] where that is. Uh, we have we own a corner lot across from Commercial Bank.

[31:56] Um, We we have that currently for sale right now. Um if we take that out of the

[32:02] entertainment district, that may hurt the sale possibly of that. So I don't

[32:08] know if there's a way to restrict that to just that lo that lot or if there's a

[32:13] different way to divide that up.

[32:19] » And we have no internet >> and we have no internet to look at the

[32:22] flat. No.

[32:26] » Do you have somebody trying to buy it right now that wants to add something?

[32:30] » We're in We're in negotiations, but I don't know how how much further that's

[32:33] going to go um with their um with their plans. They would like to be able to

[32:38] utilize that. Um >> they want to do entertainment district

[32:41] things. >> Correct. So, that's just something to

[32:46] consider.

[32:52] Well, our problem I mean our problem with that block is liquor house liquor

[32:57] is in that block. And

[33:02] » even if you ban >> even if you ban

[33:08] consumption of alcohol outside

[33:15] you can buy it there.

[33:20] not solving the problem. It's just a matter of where you're buying the

[33:23] liquor. >> Did they see an uptick? I don't remember

[33:27] them talking at that workshop. >> Oh, okay. That's why I didn't hear

[33:31] something. >> Okay.

[33:33] » The problem is being able to buy at liquor and walk out the door and drink

[33:38] it rather than buying it. >> Okay.

[33:43] » And those businesses are saying that it is impacting

[33:45] » it is impacting people in their own. >> Okay. because they're buying it or

[33:49] bringing it in.

[34:07] » It is. >> It's on the corner of Wood Street and

[34:10] East Fourth Street. >> East Fourth.

[34:13] » Okay. Velvet pulled it up on her phone and that is a platted subdivision. So,

[34:18] it's possible we can just take out the lot that Rock

[34:23] » Okay, >> we can take it out by legal description.

[34:25] Maybe a fraction of a lot, but >> it may be a fraction of a lot. I know

[34:30] the one that he's talking about is like the south 1.9 ft of a lot and some other

[34:35] lots, but it should be fairly easy to revise the ordinance to

[34:41] account for just the rock house liquor. >> Yeah,

[34:48] if you want to do that or or you can pass it,

[34:56] » we can verbally say that. >> Yeah. Okay.

[34:59] » That's more restrictive than what >> then less restrictive. We can do more.

[35:02] We can't do less. >> Okay.

[35:05] » Thank you. >> That be that'd be satisfactory.

[35:07] » Yes. >> Chair would entertain a motion.

[35:13] » I move we approve the revisions to the entertainment district for the sake of

[35:17] public safety editing and only removing Rockhouse liquor from

[35:23] the entertainment district. We have a second

[35:30] » roll call. >> Anita Picket.

[35:34] » Yes. >> Uh Dr. Hickerson,

[35:37] » Chris Owens, >> yes.

[35:39] » Cory Mobs, >> yes.

[35:40] » And Chairman Ne. >> Yes. The entertainment uh district

[35:45] revisions with the edit is approved. >> All right.

[35:53] Last comments. Anything?

[35:57] You have children or grandchildren?

[36:01] » Children parks department's breakfast with Santa

[36:06] from 9 to noon. Santa

[36:24] All right.

[36:28] » All right. Chair would entertain a motion to adjurnn.

[36:31] » I move we adjourn. >> All right. All in favor?

[36:35] » I

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