[0:05] Okay, >> there we go. Okay, it is Wednesday,

[0:09] August 5th, 2026. The time is 5:32 p.m. We started a little late due to some

[0:15] technical issues. The Twilla City Council is meeting in a work meeting

[0:19] that is being held at Twilla City Hall in the council chambers located at 90

[0:23] North Main Street in Tilla, Utah. We're also streaming this electronically on

[0:27] the Twilla City YouTube channel. We will start with the roll call. Councilman

[0:31] Gosset, >> present.

[0:32] » Councilwoman Goes, >> present.

[0:34] » Councilman McCall, >> present.

[0:36] » Councilman Hansen, >> I'm present [clears throat] by phone.

[0:40] » And I'm Councilman Brady, and I'm also present. We'll move on to item three,

[0:44] which is the mayor's report. >> Thank you, council. Um, I just have a

[0:47] couple of things today. Um, in case you weren't aware, we had a change of

[0:52] command at the Tula Army Depot. So, we have a new colonel, Colonel Fortune

[0:56] there. um he's going to be a great addition to Chila and we have some

[1:00] upcoming changes at the Dougway uh proving grounds too. Some changes going

[1:04] on there. So report on those once we attend to those. We've had a couple of

[1:09] meetings with U DOT in regards to the Mid Valley Highway and our corridor

[1:14] access agreement with U DOT. So we're working through some challenges there

[1:18] and trying to work with UD do to get what's best for Tula City and moving

[1:21] forward with that. Um and then I was able to attend also the senior center um

[1:27] across the street. They've become the first ever city center of kindness and

[1:33] they invited uh me to their celebration. Counciloman McCll was there as well and

[1:39] they are moving forward just like we're a city of kindness um with the kindness

[1:43] initiatives and they were pretty excited about that. They had a great turnout.

[1:47] There were hundreds of people there to celebrate and Mr. Sumani from the

[1:50] Sandani Foundation came out to to celebrate with them and um then one just

[1:58] last we had a pre- disaster mitigation meeting with um the county and some

[2:04] people from the state and just talking about our disaster mitigation plan. And

[2:09] so in the near future future, there will be some surveys on line that come out

[2:14] through the county emergency management um and just getting some pre-work done

[2:20] so that we can complete our disaster mitigation plan and of course that's

[2:23] done countywide and we'll participate in that with them. So that is my report for

[2:28] today. >> Thank you. We'll move on to item four

[2:32] which is the council members report. We'll start with Councilman McCall.

[2:37] Oh, I attended the um senior um event as well. And that as the mayor

[2:44] said, that was pretty good. And um for some reason, I can't think of the

[2:49] other couple of things that I did. I should have wrote them down, but I

[2:53] didn't. But that concludes my report. >> Thank you, Councilman Hansen.

[2:59] Um >> I think I'll just wait till next time

[3:01] when I'm there in person to to report on them. There's a few things, but I'll

[3:05] just save them. Okay. Okay. Thank you, Councilwoman Goes.

[3:10] » Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I also attended the Tula Army Dep Depot of

[3:14] Command ceremony and it was very [clears throat]

[3:17] dignified and we welcome uh the colonel and uh his family to Tilla. Um, also I

[3:25] attended an RDA executive board meeting on that day and then also went on a tour

[3:30] of the water reclamation facility. So, I just want to thank uh Troy Meyers and

[3:35] the staff down there. Um he's the water reclamation supervisor and uh they have

[3:42] an enormous amount of work. They process millions of gallons of waste water

[3:46] daily. Uh they use advanced treatment stages to produce reuse water. And of

[3:52] course, uh we know that that we did upgrade the Headworks building at a cost

[3:57] of $6.9 million, but there's a lot more to come. So, we really appreciate Troy

[4:02] and all the work that they do. Um, on the 17th, I attended a flock training

[4:08] with the Tula City Police Department. It was uh very informational. I also

[4:13] attended my monthly meeting with the mayor, Mayor Manzion on the 27th.

[4:19] And then on the 30th, I attended spokesperson training at the Tula City

[4:23] Police Department. Good information there. And on the 3rd, I attended the

[4:27] growth summit meeting uh with Twilla County at the Twilla Technical College

[4:33] uh regarding the nuclear life cycle campus. And that concludes my dis my

[4:39] report. >> Thank you, Councilman Gossip.

[4:42] » You know, I was sitting over here thinking what what did I do? Had my

[4:45] meeting with the mayor as well. Uh took a tour with Nathan of the wastewater.

[4:53] telling you think when you flush the toilet it just magically

[4:58] just disappears. It's amazing the amount of work that goes through that facility

[5:03] just to take care of the waste water for Twilla. I was felt like I got a PhD in

[5:08] it, Nathan. So, thank you. I mean, that was it was pretty amazing. And uh my

[5:14] wife thanks you too cuz I came home and told her all about it and she's, you

[5:18] know, that much more impressed now. But uh

[5:22] » really >> and I can't think of the other thing

[5:24] that I did. >> I know I went to another meeting. It may

[5:28] have been the one that was at the county health department for the communities

[5:32] that care. I can't remember. [clears throat]

[5:33] But uh yeah, it's been a good couple of weeks. So

[5:37] » Okay, that's it. Thank you. I attended many of these same meetings. The tour at

[5:42] the reclamation facility was great. It's always good to see firsthand the things

[5:48] that we're voting on and we know that there's a lot of work to do there, but

[5:51] we're up for the challenge. And then the weekly staff meeting with the mayor, the

[5:58] staff continues to do great and they always have great ideas and really care

[6:02] about the community. So, thanks for all you guys do. We will move on to our

[6:06] discussion items. Our first discussion item is a discussion on a fee schedule

[6:11] discussion for records and police department. This is presented by Matthew

[6:15] Johnson, the city attorney.

[6:20] » Thank you, chairman. Thank you, council. Um,

[6:24] this is an issue that staff wanted to bring to council's attention early in

[6:28] the process. So, [clears throat] you'll see that there's a a draft in in

[6:32] tonight's packet. It's a first draft. It's a very rough draft. Um uh

[6:39] uh city attorney's office met with the city recorder and with uh Chief Day uh

[6:45] regarding um responses to records requests under Utah government records

[6:51] access and management act grandma. Um [snorts] what we're seeing is that

[6:58] um the fee schedule that we have in place does comply with uh what's allowed

[7:04] by grandma, but it doesn't completely incorporate uh maybe what the city could

[7:09] impose as fees uh for these requests. Um we're not trying to raise fees, but we

[7:15] are trying to make sure that the costs to the city are are covered by the fees.

[7:20] grandma allows um the city to charge a reasonable fee to cover the actual cost

[7:26] of of responding to her record. Um and I feel old saying this, but it's getting

[7:32] more and more to where it's not the cost of paper and toner and stuff to copy it.

[7:36] It's um a lot more the hours to compile electronic records in a way that we can

[7:42] actually forward it to someone else, especially if we have public records

[7:47] combined with protected or private records.

[7:50] trying to to separate those or redact those. Um so we're looking at a few

[7:55] options to change. The current fee schedule basically has

[8:01] um two two ways to account for that um for for

[8:08] uh that uh compiling and redaction. One is if anything's redacted, the record is

[8:13] is doubled the the price. Um, which a lot of times if it's a paper copy, it's

[8:19] a few cents. It's just doubles that price. It's a little more if if uh for

[8:25] example, if a police video has to be redacted, it is a little a little

[8:29] pricier. Um, and also, and this covers the police video situation, it's um it

[8:37] it allows for uh a compilation fee of $15

[8:42] uh per hour for the compilation. Um, like I say, that doesn't conflict with

[8:48] the state code. The state code allows for um uh if a city um searches,

[8:55] retrievas, retrieves, compiles or anything and that record is not in the

[9:00] form that the city keeps it in, then we can charge an hourly rate at the lowest

[9:07] salary of of whoever is qualified to do the work, regardless who actually does

[9:11] it. Um so we're we're working on some of the language to to make it more

[9:16] consistent with that. It is convenient to have, okay, it's just $15. We always

[9:20] know what it is, but uh we we'd have to update that and it

[9:26] also might be a situation where u someone else with a different salary has

[9:31] to has to comply with it. Um, we're also looking at keeping language in there to

[9:39] have some discretion for the records officer, whether it's the city reporters

[9:44] office or whether it's the police department to say, "Well, for this

[9:48] particular request, it just doesn't make sense to

[9:51] to charge an hourly rate. We'll go back to either the redaction, the double the

[9:57] fee charge or or something like that just because administratively we're

[10:02] going to we're going to cost more resources more city resources to do that

[10:07] than to just um do what we're doing or just to wave the fee. In some

[10:11] circumstances, the state code does allow um the city to to wave uh fees and in

[10:18] some circumstances actually encourages the city to wave fees um in particular

[10:23] for meteor requests. But I feel like I covered a lot. Are there any questions?

[10:29] Like I say, we're just kind of looking for we wanted to alert the council, see

[10:33] if council had any input, any questions, any direction for the city as we work

[10:39] through some of the details of this. >> I don't have any questions. I know that

[10:43] the police department gets a lot of grammar requests and they spend a lot of

[10:47] lot of time going through the records and redacting where they need to. So, I

[10:52] think it's important that the city's not losing money doing that. We're not

[10:56] trying to profit off of it. We're just trying to pay for the person doing that.

[11:01] So, I don't have anything else. Does anyone else have questions or comments?

[11:06] » No, it's just it is a time consuming task. So,

[11:10] » it it is and [clears throat] it seems to be getting more and more so whether it's

[11:13] » the Well, I think it's both the the greater number of requests and the more

[11:17] expensive requests that we're getting. So, it it is getting more and more

[11:21] » timeconuming for the city. Yeah. >> Okay.

[11:25] » Thank you. >> Thank you.

[11:26] » Thank you. Okay, we'll move on to our next

[11:28] discussion item. It's a discussion on data centers in Twilla City and whether

[11:32] city ordinances should be amended to appropriately respond to these potential

[11:36] uses. This is presented by Andrew Agard, the community development director.

[11:42] Thank you, Chairman Brady, members of the city council. I appreciate your time

[11:46] tonight to discuss this item with me.

[11:51] The impetus behind this and why it is why I wanted to bring it to your work

[11:57] session for discussion tonight is we as a department in the community

[12:01] development department we are fielding requests in regards to constructing data

[12:07] centers in Tula city and our current code the current

[12:12] conditions of our code do not permit define or otherwise regulate the land

[12:17] use of data centers and my job as the community development director is to

[12:22] make sure that title 7 the development code is maintained and updated and

[12:28] corrected as necessary according to how things are exist at the time. So I

[12:36] need to identify deficiencies in our code and and bring those to the council

[12:40] for discussion and possible correction if we need to.

[12:46] The use of data centers, especially as they exist today, is a

[12:51] relatively new land use. Um, data centers have been around for a

[12:57] while, as long as you've had the internet, but typically they're obscure

[13:00] and kind of nobody really thinks much about them. But with the advent of

[13:05] artificial intelligence, there has been an explosion in the need for data

[13:10] centers based upon the immense amounts of data that are being requested by the

[13:15] users of cell phones, computers, and everything else. And so these things are

[13:20] proliferating. They are growing. And there is there are a lot more requests

[13:25] to construct these things. So, Mayor Manzion and I agree that this let's

[13:31] bring this to the council and talk about it with you and see what you think and

[13:34] and get your get your ideas in regards to what we should or should not do in

[13:38] regards to this proposed land, these new land uses.

[13:42] I do also want to point out that data center technology is advancing and

[13:46] changing rapidly. So what exists as a data center today may

[13:54] not exist as a data center in five years.

[13:57] Four years ago I couldn't tell you what AI is and now it's everywhere. So things

[14:02] are constantly changing. Who knows? Maybe a data center will fit in a

[14:05] briefcase in 10 years or we'll all have one in our basement.

[14:09] Don't know. It's changing that quickly. But I think we need to look at our code

[14:15] and and decide we need to update our code and decide how we want to how we

[14:19] want to address this particular land use.

[14:22] So I'm not an expert in data centers by trade. I am a land use and development

[14:26] planner. So as Paul would always say, I don't even pretend to be one on TV.

[14:32] Okay. [laughter] So I'm going to do my best to do this

[14:36] presentation. I did take some time to do some

[14:39] research. I read numerous reports and information about data centers, find out

[14:44] what they are, how they operate, why we need them, why they're proliferating,

[14:49] and what other cities are doing in regards to data centers. And I'd like to

[14:54] present to you a summary of my research, my findings, a summary of what other

[14:59] cities have done or are doing, and then possibly some options that we can

[15:04] consider in the future. And so, I'll just jump right into it. You probably

[15:09] all know all this. You probably know more about data centers than I do. So,

[15:13] if this is repetitive or boring, I apologize, but it doesn't hurt to to

[15:17] look at some of the information. What is a data center? A data center is

[15:23] a purpose-built building that runs large numbers of computers reliably, securely,

[15:27] and around the clock. Inside are the servers, storage, and

[15:31] networking gear that do the work, plus the heavy duty cooling, backup power,

[15:35] and physical security that keeps them running.

[15:39] One can be as small as a server room or as large as a windowless campus the size

[15:43] of several football stadiums. They can be wrapped in cooling,

[15:48] batteries, generators, high-capacity links to the internet and the grid. The

[15:53] software runs the show, spreading out the workload, flagging failures, and

[15:57] handling security. These are some images that I found showing the inside of a

[16:01] data center. It's a big building with a lot of computers.

[16:06] What does a data center do? A data center stores data and runs the software

[16:12] behind the services people use all day. If you stream a TV show, send an email,

[16:19] tap a card at a checkout stand, back up a photo, or ask an AI a question,

[16:25] somewhere that data center does the work and sends it back almost

[16:28] instantaneously.

[16:32] There are various types of data centers. There are enterprise data centers which

[16:36] are built and owned and run by a single organization for its own use. A good

[16:42] example of this is the Facebook data center. Well, they call themselves Meta

[16:46] now, but the Facebook data center down in in Eagle Mountain that is owned and

[16:50] operated by MA and is exclusive to their to their services.

[16:56] You have collocation data centers which rent space, power and tech and cooling

[17:01] to many customers who then bring their own servers to the facility.

[17:07] I would imagine that that type of data center can be of various sizes. I don't

[17:11] think those have to be huge or small. They can be any size. Uh the ones that

[17:15] gain a lot of attention are the hyperscale data centers. These are the

[17:19] giant enormous campuses run by a handful of tech companies that deliver cloud and

[17:24] AI services at a massive scale. These are run by Amazon, Microsoft and

[17:29] Google. And I would think that probably Facebook and Eagle Mountain would also

[17:33] be considered a hypers scale. It's a large facility.

[17:36] You have data cloud centers. These deliver computing as an ondemand

[17:41] service. Customers rent server storage software over the internet and pay for

[17:45] only what they use. And then number five, you have edge data

[17:49] centers. I like to refer to these as modular data centers. Uh these are

[17:53] smaller sites placed close to users to cut delays.

[17:57] Uh time-sensitive work is handled through these. These are usually for

[18:01] gamers, live streaming, often no bigger than a shipping container. Okay,

[18:08] here are some images of some data centers that I was able to find. on the

[18:11] nor on the upper left corner that is a large hyperscale facility in Northern

[18:17] Virginia in Lowden County which is actually this

[18:22] database or the data center capital of the world. They have a lot of data

[18:26] centers in Northern Virginia. Uh the one on the right upper right that is a a uh

[18:31] we consider a medium-sized data center. It's just a single building. Uh lower

[18:36] left that is the Nova data center in West Jordan. So kind of showing you what

[18:41] a data center would look like. What they that one looks like from the road view

[18:46] that is a large facility and then the lower right that is what that is a

[18:51] modular data center in regards to Tilla City and the

[18:56] information that was requested from me. Uh those requests have been largely for

[19:01] those modular type of data centers. Um we've had we have had discussions

[19:06] of converting existing structures to data centers

[19:11] and uh but but largely it's the ones that are interested that I know of in

[19:15] coming to the city are those small modular facilities.

[19:20] So why are so many of these being built? I really like that picture on the left

[19:25] hand side. Okay. Um, I go to Vasa Fitness for my lunch break and I'm

[19:32] amazed at watching people lifting weights on machines while downloading

[19:36] stuff on their phones. Um, it's it's everywhere. People can't put down their

[19:41] phones. And so the the uh the way it's described here is many data centers are

[19:47] going up because demand for computing is climbing on every front and AI has

[19:51] poured on fuel. Cloud adoption, streaming, digital

[19:55] payments, remote work, business software, and cyber security were all

[19:59] growing steadily before generative AI added fresh wave of demand. So AI has

[20:05] really piled on the fuel for the for the need of the the amount the amount of

[20:09] data is immense and they need the facilities.

[20:14] So why are these controversial? Data centers are controversial because

[20:19] they can be a tax windfall for a city but also a grid headache at the same

[20:25] time. They bring great con great construction

[20:30] work and job construction related jobs, tax revenue and fresh infrastructure.

[20:36] But they also lean hard and heavily on electricity, water and land while

[20:42] employing relatively few people once they are running.

[20:47] Enterprise data centers are estimated to use between 300,000 to 500,000 gallons

[20:53] of water per day. Just to give you a visual of what that is, a an Olympicssiz

[20:58] swimming pool uses 660,000 gallons of water. So that gives you a kind of a

[21:03] visual of what 500,000 gallons of water is per day for an enterprise facility.

[21:09] Uh this can vary significantly based on the size and cooling methods. Large

[21:13] hypers scale centers can consume up to 5 million gallons of water per day. So

[21:19] there is a significant burden on a city in regards to these types of uses

[21:25] especially toilla city where you're you're very well of our water situation

[21:29] here. So what have other cities done in

[21:33] regards to these data centers? Now for the most part

[21:38] most [clears throat] cities prohibit data centers in Utah. I could only find

[21:42] a handful of cities that permit them. And as I was doing this research, I was

[21:47] quite surprised in what I found. I thought there'd be a lot more

[21:50] regulation. Uh cities really don't have a lot of regulation in regards to these

[21:54] data centers. Uh Eagle Mountain's the first one that came to mind when I

[21:58] worked in Riverton. Facebook tried to come to Riverton and and the city

[22:02] council at at that time did not want them in the city. So they went to Eagle

[22:07] Mountain and Eagle Mountain permitted them to do that.

[22:11] Eagle Mountain zoning codes, all they have is they permit it in one industrial

[22:17] zone and they have additional 50 foot and 60 ft building setbacks when

[22:23] adjacent to residential zones. There is no other design criteria or development

[22:28] criteria in Eagle Mountains codes concerning concerning data centers. Uh

[22:33] the picture that you have on the right here, excuse me, is the MA facility.

[22:39] It occupies about 831 acres. Uh you'll note that it's constructed immediately

[22:44] south of Eagle Mountain City's wastewater treatment facility. So I

[22:49] wonder if maybe there's a little water sharing going on there with the with the

[22:53] with the data center. Uh there is a new data center being constructed

[22:57] immediately west of the Facebook. That one has about 131 acres.

[23:02] And then you can see the residential areas located north on the top of the

[23:06] the picture gradually creeping south towards the data center.

[23:11] Bluffdale city is probably the most liberal city that I found in regards to

[23:16] data centers. They permit data centers in two commercial zones and two

[23:21] industrial zones and there was no other regulatory language found in the city's

[23:26] codes. The image shows the NSA data center

[23:30] located uh just west of Camp Williams there next to the Mountain View

[23:33] corridor. Uh that is a data center that is administered and owned by the federal

[23:38] government, not not by a private entity. West Jordan permits the use in one

[23:44] industrial zone and like uh Eagle Mountain requires greater building

[23:48] setbacks when adjacent to residential zones. Uh the facility that you see

[23:53] there is the Nova data center facility. Uh that is a large hypers sca hypers

[23:57] scale facility there facility. There is a residential development

[24:02] located immediately north of the project but there's probably about 200 300 ft

[24:07] between the homes and the the entrance to that building. That's the one in the

[24:11] picture that I showed you before. Salt Lake City permits one or permits

[24:17] the use in one industrial zone. They did have one qualification in their

[24:21] ordinance that requires a closed loop water cooling system. It's all I could

[24:25] find for Salt Lake City. Delta City, you're aware what Delta is.

[24:31] Delta is that little town located out in the West Desert.

[24:35] I was surprised on Delta. They are currently building two hypers scale data

[24:39] centers. One of them is I think 14,000 acres and the other one is 5,000.

[24:47] Uh Delta City could probably end up being the Louden County of the West.

[24:52] They have the space and apparently they have the water. But I searched through

[24:56] their code and I could find not a single reference to data centers. So I don't

[25:01] know how they're permitting them in Delta City. They might be using

[25:04] development agreements or something of that nature, but there was nothing

[25:07] codified in regards to those data centers.

[25:12] Provo City, they recently had a an application to convert an existing

[25:17] two-story warehouse into a data center. Uh the city council ultimately denied a

[25:23] reszone and a ordinance amendment necessary to enable the conversion. They

[25:29] cited that they didn't have sufficient information to enable the the zoning

[25:33] change. Nephi City is an interesting one. I

[25:38] Nephi City created a fourth industrial zoning district that permits only data

[25:43] centers. Uh what I also found interesting is in

[25:46] their code they prohibit data centers from using wind power generated inside

[25:52] the city. So apparently they don't want windmills in their city. So

[25:59] interesting. Uh Santa Quinn permitted the Summit Ridge data center and the

[26:05] requirements on this one requires closed loop water system and on-site power

[26:09] generation. The image that you have there is a rendering of the facility. It

[26:14] is not yet constructed. That facility is anticipated to generate

[26:19] 20 megawws of power right there on the site using natural gas.

[26:27] So what are Utah counties doing? I I want to tread water lightly when it

[26:32] comes to talking about counties. Uh counties are not the same as cities.

[26:36] They have entirely different considerations when it comes to land

[26:39] use. Uh consider Tilla County for example. They have land extending from

[26:44] the peaks of the ochres all the way to the Nevada border that could accommodate

[26:47] a hyperscale data center. We don't have that much property in Tula city. Most

[26:54] cities don't because of their incorporated boundaries.

[26:57] The other difference is a city is required to provide certain utilities

[27:03] such as wastewater treatment, water that counties are not required to provide. So

[27:10] it's bananas and apples really. We're we're a different we're just kind of a

[27:13] different animal and what the county is doing right now is something that I

[27:16] don't think the city needs to worry about. But just for your information,

[27:20] Duchain, Iron, and Boxelder counties are all considering large and hyperscale

[27:25] data centers. um very large. The one up in Boxell

[27:29] there is a 40,000 acres bigger than the island of Manhattan.

[27:34] So we're not going to get that in Tilla, but um that's what counties are dealing

[27:38] with. So they they they look at things a little bit differently than the city

[27:41] does. So, in order to keep our code updated, I

[27:46] wanted to run by the city council some options and get your input and possibly

[27:52] some direction as how to proceed or where you'd like me to in start

[27:57] investigating or working towards. Um, one of the option you have is do

[28:02] nothing. As I mentioned, our code currently does not permit data centers.

[28:07] Our code is a is a code that is it's structured as a permissive code. So

[28:15] if a use is not listed as a as permitted in the code, it's automatically not

[28:20] permitted. And so right now when people come in and

[28:23] they ask about data centers and if we can do them here, my response to them is

[28:27] no, the code doesn't permit them. Now, after I made this slide, Mayor Manzion

[28:31] raised an interesting thought that I had not considered, and I

[28:36] wanted to bring this to the council's attention.

[28:39] Could a data center sneak in under another use?

[28:43] And I was looking through our definition section, and there are some uses that

[28:48] [snorts] could possibly enable a data center without having to go through any

[28:52] kind of an an amendment. Uh we have a research facility

[28:57] and the definition for a research facility is a facility that conducts

[29:02] research and development work. Pretty vague. Um a warehouse is defined

[29:10] as a building used primarily for the inside storage of non-hazardous goods

[29:14] and materials and including accessory office facilities. [clears throat]

[29:19] Again, pretty vague. So if someone were to come in and make some arguments about

[29:23] putting a data center in a research facil as a research facility, how is I,

[29:29] the community development director, tell them that you don't qualify.

[29:33] So we may want to look at if the city council is going down the path, if they

[29:36] don't want to have these here in the city, we may want to look at amending

[29:40] some of these definitions. I appreciate the mayor bringing those to

[29:44] my attention. That's a very valid point that we need to consider.

[29:48] I also want to point out that these do not include MIDIA properties. The MIDA

[29:52] properties are out of our land use control jurisdiction. So, uh, when I'm

[29:57] referring to these things, I'm referring to our zoning districts that are not

[30:00] part of Maida. Uh, another thing we can consider is do

[30:05] as other cities. We could limit the use to specific zones of your choosing,

[30:10] likely a zone that is separated from residential areas and set regulations

[30:15] such as closed loop water systems, self-power generation, so forth. Um, we

[30:20] could do as Nephi City did. You could create a a fourth industrial zone that's

[30:25] specifically for data centers. And that way the city council as part of a zoning

[30:31] map amendment would have absolute discretion as whether or not it's going

[30:34] to go there and whether it's an appropriate place to go. But for the

[30:38] most part, like I show like I showed you, cities don't regulate these. And I

[30:42] think the reason being is it's such a new new land use and it's an

[30:48] everchanging land use. So it's really difficult for cities to to get a hold of

[30:52] these things. This is the zoning map. I wanted to show

[30:56] you the location of some of our industrial zone of all of our industrial

[31:00] zones. Um they are highlighted in red. We have industrial zones on the very

[31:08] western extremes of the city. They are they are shown in the purple. Uh those

[31:13] areas are largely isolated from residential zones. If there if there is

[31:18] residential zoning nearby, it's separated by by the light industrial

[31:22] zoning district. Uh we we did that intentionally because as I've explained

[31:26] before, the industrial zone is a great place for our locally unwanted land

[31:30] uses. So that gives you an idea of where our

[31:35] industrial areas are. If the city council was was wanting to consider

[31:38] that, uh another consideration is to go all

[31:42] out. You could follow the Tula County approach and adopt a new 28page

[31:46] ordinance regulating the development operational minutiae of development

[31:50] centers. I think that would be overkill for the city. I do not anticipate we'll

[31:55] be getting much more than C modular data centers here in the city or maybe a

[32:00] conversion of an existing warehouse into a data center. We just don't have the

[32:05] the the available real estate for a hypers scale facility.

[32:10] Um if you decide to go down that path, I am

[32:14] not qualified to write that ordinance. I don't know that much about data centers.

[32:19] So, we would probably need to consider an outside consultant or something of

[32:22] that nature to help us write that. Um, again, this is just an a discussion. I

[32:29] want to make sure our code is updated and and current with the times.

[32:34] And in this regard, it's something that I need your help and need your advice to

[32:39] decide what to do. So, I'm open to any questions, comments, rebukes, rebuttals,

[32:45] or feedback.

[32:48] » Okay. any questions, comments, feedback? >> That was a really good presentation. So,

[32:53] thank you for that information. Um, I do know that we had discussed going on a

[32:58] tour of a data center and um I would be interested in being able to physically

[33:02] go and see u one that's operating and that would probably help me to

[33:09] I would like to go with you. I would like to go to one as well.

[33:12] » Okay. Because like I said, we don't know a lot about these these land uses and I

[33:16] think other cities are grappling with the same problem. That's why there's a

[33:19] lot of vagodies in the codes. So if we had a code allowing a data

[33:24] center, how do we limit the amount of water and power? because we we have

[33:30] other users that are not data centers that they've they told us they want to

[33:35] use as much water as they truly do and then there's really nothing that the

[33:39] city can do to go, you know, get the water back. So, how do we how would you

[33:44] limit it? >> I think the only limitation you could do

[33:47] would be to limit the size of the facility.

[33:51] limit limit it to modular facilities or to existing structures where water is

[33:57] already being provided to the structure. Um I don't know how you could otherwise

[34:02] limit the water use other than having Shannon's guys go out there and turn off

[34:06] the meters at a certain usage. Um enforcability in that regard would be

[34:12] very difficult. I think the ultimate enforcement you would have be to limit

[34:14] the size. >> Okay. So I've got a question. So there

[34:18] were a couple of those cities that mentioned closed loop system. So I just

[34:23] want maybe everybody to understand. If if my understanding is wrong, tell me.

[34:28] So you have like a radiant heat floor and it's got tubes of water that heat

[34:32] your house, right? You're not adding water to that every day. It stays in

[34:37] that loop. So some of those cities were saying it had to be a closed loop system

[34:41] if it was in the city. So that would control the water use because it would

[34:44] be a one-time use. Correct. I think it would limit the water use. Water in the

[34:49] closed loop system can go for a while, but then it gets to a point where it's

[34:53] degraded to a point that it has to be discharged.

[34:55] » Okay. >> Um

[34:57] Nathan probably has some information on that. He he actually has some

[35:00] information from a situation in Cheyenne where they have something like this. So,

[35:05] » good evening, council. Uh so, we don't have a lot of information on the closed

[35:08] loops uh uh system technology as of right now. It seems like every time we

[35:12] ask for it, we get told, "Yeah, yeah, we'll go take you and look at it." And

[35:16] then we never get any response. So, as of right now, we have one new story out

[35:21] of Cheyenne where a closed loop system was being worked on and they discharged

[35:25] and the sewer plant was able to detect a a high amount of a certain bacteria that

[35:31] they weren't used to seeing in their wastewater effluent. So, um there's some

[35:35] issues with with this. The the water can be reused for a time. Sometimes, from

[35:41] what we understand, it's up to a year, could be five years. We've heard varying

[35:45] levels of of time, but it is a big flush when they have to reset it. So, whatever

[35:51] their system can handle, they're going to discharge that at a certain rate,

[35:55] which would probably be too much for our sewer plant to handle, we'd have to

[35:59] regulate that. Um, and then again, it would be a big draw on our water system

[36:03] to fill that that water system back up. >> So, does it evaporate within the system?

[36:08] No, it's it's it's mostly just that it loses its ability to cool.

[36:12] » Okay. >> There is a glycol additive or some other

[36:14] additive that they use to kind of preserve it, but it does lose its

[36:17] ability to to to to cool the machines depending on how hot it's running and

[36:22] and other factors. >> So, that would make the water usage

[36:26] less, but it still is going to continue to need more water. Yeah, it'd be

[36:30] significantly less, but again, it' be impacts down this downstream in the

[36:34] sewer plant or in other in other ways, especially if they have to add additive

[36:39] to the water. We don't know what that would do to the sewer treatment plant,

[36:42] the bugs and the other processes that we have to go through. We'd have to work

[36:46] that out and work on our permitting process to to be able to accept that

[36:50] water. >> Perfect.

[36:53] My only other comment was I want to thank the people that are in attendance

[36:57] [clears throat] tonight because I went to the county meeting and that was kind

[37:00] of wild and so I appreciate everybody having the signs and being respectful.

[37:05] So I'm glad they're here as well and we we

[37:09] we encourage the involvement.

[37:14] And then you had mentioned that if we do nothing that a data center can't come

[37:20] because it's not in our code. But a while back we had a company who had

[37:24] lithium ion batteries or something like that that were being stored into a city

[37:29] and our code didn't allow that and then we had to make a change to the code that

[37:34] restricted that. So that's my question. Is it enough just

[37:38] to not have a code restricting it or do you have to specifically say we don't

[37:43] allow this use at all so they don't work, you know, find a loophole or

[37:49] whatever you want to call it. I would recommend that if this is a use

[37:55] that you're not inclined to want in the city at this time that we do an

[38:00] amendment that outrightly prohibits them. And it could be as simple as just

[38:05] including it in our table of commercial uses and then not including the P or the

[38:10] C for permitted and or commercial. That way it's clearly there. Um, right now

[38:15] it's not. And as I as I mentioned with with warehouses and with research

[38:21] facilities, people get very creative with how they define what they're doing.

[38:26] And it's very difficult for staff to say, "No, you're wrong. You're not doing

[38:30] that." and we are obligated to approve things if it can meet the the parameters

[38:34] of the ordinance. So it it would be very beneficial from my perspective. If you

[38:40] don't want them in the city in the areas that are not MIDIA, let's prohibit them.

[38:45] Let's put let's put let's put something in the table of commercial uses. Let's

[38:49] amend the definitions of warehouse and so forth to clearly mean that they're

[38:54] not talking about data centers. I think that would be be beneficial.

[38:58] » Okay. >> Because you're right. I mean it's people

[39:01] get very creative in how they interpret things.

[39:03] » Yeah. >> So

[39:04] » it's one more question. So you said you've had people come approach the

[39:08] city. >> I have people call me from time to time

[39:11] and they have a vacant piece of land that they want to do something with and

[39:14] they'll ask can we do a data center there

[39:16] » and you just say it's not >> I say right now our code does not

[39:18] address them. Okay. So I I think we probably should do what he's

[39:25] recommending myself for now and if we change our minds later just take it out.

[39:31] But for now until we know exactly cuz I agree with him about the with AI

[39:38] um it is it is evolving so fast until we don't know what it's going to be next

[39:46] month. I mean, we've already I mean, I I we've seen it on the on the TV

[39:51] that AI has advanced so much now until it it's already started doing things on

[39:56] its own that that it's not asked to do.

[40:00] [laughter] So, it's just a matter. It's just a matter before it gets really

[40:05] wild. So I I I honestly think until we are certain we want a data center, we

[40:10] probably should use that suggestion is put it put it in there and said no until

[40:15] we know for a fact that's what we want to do.

[40:17] » And like Andrew said too, I mean the technology is changing so quickly, maybe

[40:22] some of the problems that persist today aren't going to persist.

[40:26] » Yeah. One one of the reports I read stated how fast it's changing that we

[40:30] may not need data centers in 10 years. >> Yeah.

[40:33] » They don't know. That's the that's the that's the issue is nobody knows.

[40:38] » So, okay.

[40:45] Are there any other questions or comments?

[40:48] » So, would you like me to begin putting together an ordinance amendment and

[40:52] bringing that prep back to the to the council for consideration another work

[40:56] session or how would you like >> I think we need more discussion on it.

[41:00] This is the challenge that I don't know if anyone wants to say this out loud,

[41:04] but it's hard to know. It's hard to make an ordinance when we

[41:09] don't know what the potential benefit could be to the city as well. And people

[41:14] don't like to hear that because they hear data center and it's an automatic

[41:17] no. But there is an economic impact to the city.

[41:21] um just as many people are out there right now when we raise taxes, there's

[41:26] five times more people yelling at us because we're raising taxes. And so

[41:30] that's the challenge that the city council has is how do we set the city up

[41:34] in a position where economically we don't have to raise taxes on our

[41:39] residents, but we're still trying to make sure that we're using the land the

[41:44] best way possible. We're using the resources we have best the best way

[41:47] possible. So, if I was going to allow a data center,

[41:51] which I'm not saying I am, it would be a very small area in the community and we

[41:57] would have to be able to restrict water. We'd have to make sure that they have

[41:59] their own power. Like, there would be so many things that we would have to do to

[42:03] protect our citizens and make sure that it's the best thing for our community.

[42:07] So, it's hard to just flat out say no when

[42:12] maybe the best thing comes along. There's better technology and and we're

[42:16] behind on that. So, I see both sides of it. I think with our water situation, it

[42:23] it's easy right now to probably say now is not the best time because we know

[42:26] that they're they're likely high water users. But I think at some point we have

[42:31] to have an open mind to change and change isn't easy for a lot of people

[42:36] and I I was a little kid when the internet came out and I I remember

[42:42] seeing that change and my kids to my kids now it's just every day we use the

[42:47] internet but when I was a kid it was this new technology that was coming out.

[42:52] I remember Y2K, the world was going to shut down when

[42:56] » we hit the year 2000 and and here we are. We're we're still here. So, I'm

[43:01] open to having an an open mind about things and discussing things, but if the

[43:06] council decides that it's in the best interest of the community right now to

[43:10] to specifically say no data centers, I I would be willing to do that as well. But

[43:17] and I and and don't don't get me wrong, I'm not I said we can do that because we

[43:23] we can always change it and but for now until we get a our a handle around it,

[43:30] I'd assume we say no until we figure it all out ourselves. I agree. We we should

[43:35] talk some more a lot more because I mean there's places where water is there that

[43:42] we can't use because it's unfit for human consumption.

[43:46] And I think that might be something to look at if if we got water that we can't

[43:51] use without taking it to um a processing plant or

[43:56] building a a a plant that will clean it. that might not be a bad place to to put

[44:03] one of these things with this the if we specify that it's that is the

[44:10] water that they would use something that we can't use and

[44:14] I would go so much as saying like the other company that told them to put a

[44:18] power plant on their property we can ask them to build um

[44:23] a a plant that will clean some of the water and what they don't use we can we

[44:28] can use it ourselves cuz right now we can't physically clean

[44:32] the water because we we don't have the funds to clean it to make it, you know,

[44:37] drinkable. >> But so I I I'm just saying if we do that

[44:42] for now and we meet and work with these guys and just find some other some I

[44:48] agree with what you're saying. I really do.

[44:50] » Yeah. I'm just saying if someone I've seen some of the numbers that someone

[44:54] from MIA has spoke with us about a potential data center and the numbers

[44:58] are insane the revenue that it brings to your city. It's that's why these cities

[45:03] are doing it. Let's be realistic. They it makes so they don't have to raise

[45:08] their taxes on their residents. And when we raise taxes, we get so much push

[45:12] back. The room fills up. We're told we're stupid. We're idiots. We don't

[45:16] know what we're doing. but then you're saying no to something that can greatly

[45:20] impact your community as well. So that's that's the challenge that the council

[45:23] has. Um even on the county, I'm sure they have that same experience. So

[45:30] I don't know where the council wants to go with this if

[45:34] » I mean it's sufficient to leave nothing right now and then if we had someone who

[45:39] wanted to present something but I also don't want to be behind the eightball

[45:42] either where that's why we're having this discussion today is we're

[45:45] proactively trying to make sure that someone doesn't loophole us sneak in

[45:50] » so well and if I heard right um correct me if I'm wrong but you had said the

[45:55] ones that are coming and and asking are very small ones.

[46:00] » Yeah, they're the >> So, I don't even know if those are the

[46:02] same numbers as what >> you know the other obviously box elder

[46:06] was huge, right? But, uh >> if if they're small, they may not have

[46:12] the same economic impact anyway to to justify doing it. I don't know. I think

[46:17] it's we need to hear more for sure, but I'm fine leaving it like Dave said,

[46:23] leave it closed until until such time that

[46:28] » just leave it the way it is >> or yeah, if you add something to the

[46:32] code that says no data centers, then you you don't even have the option of no

[46:39] one's going to come, right, and just say, oh, you don't

[46:41] » we want you to change your code or so >> you either say no and it's a hard no.

[46:47] And I agree with you that the scale that we would have would be so much smaller

[46:51] than anything anywhere else cuz we don't geographically have a lot of places to

[46:56] put it. So maybe one of the best things we do right now is is leave the code as

[47:01] is, but go in and amend the definitions of warehouse and and research facility

[47:06] so these facilities don't sneak in under the radar or sneak in under a colorful

[47:10] interpretation. Um, that way I think uh we can tie up some loose ends in that

[47:16] regard. Um, I'm happy to I'm happy to do more research and throw some things

[47:21] together and bring them back to you for more discussion and

[47:25] no problem doing that at all. I actually enjoy doing the research. So,

[47:29] » and I I'm open for more discussion and information. As I mentioned, a a tour, a

[47:35] site facility tour would be good. um what uh Nathan presented to us about the

[47:41] closed loop system is that when they discharge the impact that it is that was

[47:45] new information to me. So I really think that we have a lot more to learn and a

[47:49] lot more to discuss before making decisions.

[47:52] » I drove I can't remember where it was in Salt Lake. I'm driving around town

[47:56] trying to find this restaurant and I drive past this eBay data center. I had

[48:00] no idea it was a data center. It looks like a warehouse. And so I don't think

[48:05] it's what it looks like that we're concerned about. I think it's what it

[48:10] can do to our water and our power and our environment and things like that. So

[48:15] I don't know that seeing one for me is really going to change a lot cuz I think

[48:21] seeing it it just looks like a building. in the pictures you saw us. It's it's

[48:24] the resources that it uses and >> and that would be my biggest concern if

[48:29] we ever did approve anything like that is how do we limit what they can use

[48:35] and I question if we can truly do that. >> Yeah.

[48:38] » Without them just saying we're going to do this anyways kind of thing because

[48:42] we've had that happen with different businesses and it it's difficult to

[48:46] enforce a lot of things. So yeah, >> one of the things about data centers

[48:50] that I' I've learned in my reading is once they're established, once you've

[48:55] worked out the water situation, once you've worked out the power, once the

[48:58] construction is done, they generate very little impact to surrounding properties.

[49:03] They don't have a lot of employees, they don't have a lot of truck traffic. U

[49:07] they are they are utilizing technologies now that keep them quieter. Uh so once

[49:13] they're established, like you said, it's nothing more than just a big warehouse

[49:17] with computers inside, but those those issues that you mentioned are the

[49:21] critical ones, especially for Twilla City. So it's a it's an interesting it's

[49:27] an interesting land use. >> Well, I would think for now if we

[49:30] tighten up some things that with our research what's it called? The

[49:35] research and development area or land use.

[49:37] » Yeah, the research and development zone and then the warehouses the warehouse

[49:40] use. I would feel comfortable about doing that.

[49:44] » Just clarifying what >> Just clarifying what they are.

[49:47] » Yeah, I think that's good. >> And then later on, if if you're you're

[49:50] more comfortable with things, we could then consider another ordinance

[49:53] amendment for specifically for data centers.

[49:57] Um, that's a great way to proceed. >> Okay. And for the public, we we we have

[50:04] these discussions in public so you can see kind of what we're thinking and that

[50:09] we're not just we're trying to be as transparent as possible. We don't want

[50:13] it to look like we we don't listen. We do care about what our residents think

[50:16] and if it ever came to changing the code in any way, even if we change this

[50:22] research and development zoning, it it has a public comment period and that's

[50:27] the time for the public to come up and speak with the council and we're also

[50:32] happy to speak with you outside of meetings as well. So, okay. Is there any

[50:36] other discussion on this topic? >> Okay.

[50:41] » Okay. Thanks, council. >> Thank you.

[50:43] » Okay. Okay, our next discussion item is a demonstration garden. This is

[50:47] presented by Nathan Far, the public works director. Hopefully, this is a

[50:51] little more of a positive discussion. Um, we have the opportunity to um well,

[50:58] we ran into the opportunity to do something positive with some of the

[51:02] space in our community that is not being utilized. It's mostly Tilla City

[51:06] property. Um, we have uh detention basins and other uh city infrastructure

[51:12] that houses tanks and well sites that could be used better, I think. And so we

[51:19] we found a grant through the Utah Department of Agriculture and Food. Uh

[51:24] we applied for it on a whim and uh I didn't understand that it was mostly for

[51:30] like homeowners and small uses. And so I applied for as many uh kits as they

[51:35] would give me and they gave me 50 which is about 1,600 plants. So um if we can

[51:40] go to slide number one. The UT Utah Utah uh pollinator habitat program uh was

[51:46] created in March of 2021 as a pilot program for three years. It was extended

[51:51] through 2025 and then made permanent. Um, it is an opportunity for uh Utah

[51:57] homeowners and businesses and communities to plant native um

[52:02] pollinator friendly species in gardens to encourage bees and butterflies and

[52:11] hummingbirds and other pollinators to thrive and to restore natural habitat.

[52:17] Um, we felt like this would be a good use and a good opportunity for us to

[52:22] educate the public in Tilla on how to landscape without making it look like

[52:27] Mars. We want Tilla to look more like it did when the pioneers and the indigenous

[52:34] peoples were first here. And so we hope that by doing this demonstration garden

[52:39] on one of our bigger properties, we can provide an opportunity for people to

[52:43] come and see what a responsible um native landscaping would look like and

[52:48] at the same time provide opportunities for a a large portion of the native

[52:54] flora and fauna to thrive in our community. Um that's kind of hard to

[52:58] read. It's up close, but there are more than 900 species of native bees alone in

[53:03] that call Utah home. Um that's in addition to the butterflies, moths, uh

[53:08] hummingbirds and other insects that pollinate uh the the food that we enjoy

[53:14] and the the the flowers and trees that we that we have come to rely on. Go to

[53:19] the next slide. So the impact for the 2025 uh report for

[53:25] the amount of plants they gave out and the gardens that were created they

[53:29] believe that of the 502 applicants and the 382 award awardees

[53:34] um they had 87,000 plants that were grown and a total of 37 acres covered

[53:40] which contributed to saving 29,24,000 gallons of water in the year 2025. Um

[53:48] these plants know how to live in Utah. These are native. They understand what

[53:53] it's like to live in a high mountain desert. And so planting these in in

[53:58] areas like your backyard garden or in an area that can be used as a as a walking

[54:03] trail are good opportunities for us to use little water and m and still create

[54:09] beautiful spaces. So this is the lot that we chose. It

[54:14] currently houses one of our our tanks. This is one of our water storage tanks.

[54:20] And you can see from the top right picture, it's a big circle and you see

[54:24] the three light colored areas kind of around the edge. Those are areas that

[54:29] will need to be protected. Those are access hatches to the tank. So, they

[54:32] will have some kind of fencing around them. But the rest of the site is just

[54:37] right now surrounded by a chain link fence. You can see it in the bottom two

[54:41] pictures. and it's weeds that get moaned down twice a year and pretty

[54:48] ugly and kind of an eyesore in the community. And so we thought, why not

[54:53] make it beautiful? We'll we'll tear the fences down. We will uh do some some

[54:59] walking paths through there and make it something that the community can use. So

[55:03] the next slide. So this is a plan that was put together by Andrew actually. Um,

[55:09] Andrew has a background in landscape design and so uh together we we talked a

[55:14] little bit about what the the thought was and he put together this design for

[55:17] us and we think this is what we want. We want to have something where people can

[55:23] go and reflect um possibly sit and relax and kind of see what's possible in a

[55:30] Utah backyard or a Utah front yard. And so some of the plants that he's listed

[55:34] around the edges are some of the plants that we we hope to be able to get. We're

[55:38] not guaranteed the plants. Um, they they plant what they they have and then if it

[55:44] grows, we get it. So, um, the next slide will show some of the options that they

[55:49] say have grown this year. So, you can see the nodding onion, the sticky

[55:54] geranium. I love the names. The names are fantastic. Um, analopee horn,

[55:58] milkweed, sulfur, flour, buckwheat, the fire chalice looks gorgeous up close.

[56:04] The cyotes grandma is just one of the examples of a native grass and the

[56:08] Wasatch Pensamman. These are all examples of plants that we

[56:14] might have the opportunity to pick up um and and have in this garden. And so we

[56:19] would augment that with some of the things that Andrews suggested. And uh

[56:24] there again, this is only a portion of what's possible. And so the rest of the

[56:28] list um we'll be able to flesh out the rest of that park. We did, like I said,

[56:32] we got 1,600 plants, individual plants, and so we have the opportunity to make

[56:37] this a really awesome space. We're excited about the the opportunity, and

[56:41] we've had some interest. Um, let's go to the next. Um, we've had the in has some

[56:46] interest already from a local scout troop um and even a number of the city

[56:51] employees uh expressing an interest in helping to make this happen. um from

[56:56] volunteer work to you know putting aside time to do it after hours. Um we would

[57:02] we would hope that we could get this out on the just serve website and other

[57:06] areas so that we can invite many more of the community members to come and

[57:09] participate in this. Um we really think this is going to be something that we

[57:13] can use here and then develop and use other areas of the city. Like I said, we

[57:18] have a lot of these retention basins and other areas in the city that e are

[57:22] either using a lot of water to water grass or are being unused and just have

[57:28] to keep mowing the weeds down to keep it from starting on fire in fire season.

[57:33] So, this is the the plan moving forward. We're hopeful that um uh once we pick up

[57:39] the plants, this will be something we can kind of show off and have a ribbon

[57:42] cutting for later this fall. Uh our pickup date will be Saturday, September

[57:47] 12th, and I'll coordinate that. We'll go up to Ogden and pick up our plants and

[57:51] bring them back. And then uh hopefully by October, we'll be able to kind of

[57:55] celebrate this as a an awesome achievement. So, we wanted to make you

[57:59] aware of this. This is something that we hope to be able to do um in the next few

[58:03] years. We're going to apply for the grant again next year. We'll probably

[58:06] scale back a little bit. I didn't realize how many plants came with 50

[58:08] kits. So, um, maybe a little bit off a little more than I could chew on this

[58:12] one, but, um, it was a grant and it was free. So, hey, I I I saved us some

[58:17] money, Dave. How's that? [laughter]

[58:20] » So, any questions that you have for me at this time?

[58:23] » So, are you installing a drip system? >> Yes, we will be installing a drip

[58:27] system. We've we want to we know that in this case it's not going to be a zero

[58:32] water use, but if we install the drip system, we'll be able to get the water

[58:35] where it needs to go and uh give the plants what they need to thrive.

[58:39] » And your plan is to have this whole thing complete this year.

[58:42] » Yeah. By >> Yeah, we and we had talked about

[58:45] possibly not doing concrete paths and maybe just doing either dirt or some

[58:49] kind of mulch or rock path uh throughout just to kind of make it more inviting

[58:55] that in that way. Um, but also it seems like the the bees and other insects and

[59:00] things would do better if we didn't make it hard hard travel and and we would

[59:04] probably discourage more people from riding their electric bikes through it,

[59:07] which we don't want that either. So, >> I'm excited to see this. It'll be great.

[59:13] » We're excited. >> Where is the West Meadow subdivision? I

[59:16] wasn't sure where that was located. So, uh, if we go back to that, can we go

[59:18] back to that slide that has the, um, So, yeah, you can see on there it's

[59:23] about 900 south and about 700 west or 800 west is that?

[59:31] Oh, >> so it's down near

[59:34] » north of Settlement Canyon Elementary. >> Okay.

[59:37] » So, yeah. In fact, uh we were down there working and a police officer said we had

[59:42] a student whose shoe got thrown over the fence and when I went and helped him

[59:46] retrieve the shoe, I thought, boy, this is a waste of space and then we saw this

[59:50] grant and thought we could use that space better. So, I think this is a good

[59:53] use for that. >> Okay, thank you.

[59:56] » But thanks. >> Okay, item six is a closed meeting. We

[1:00:01] do have a closed meeting tonight to discuss litigation andor property

[1:00:04] acquisition. I will entertain a motion. >> Mr. Chair, I'll make a motion to that um

[1:00:12] move to to a close session. >> I'll second.

[1:00:14] » We have a motion from Councilwoman Goes and a second from Councilman McCall.

[1:00:18] We'll take it to a vote. Councilman McCall.

[1:00:20] » I. >> Councilwoman Gochas.

[1:00:21] » I. >> Councilman Gossit.

[1:00:23] » I. >> Councilman Hansen.

[1:00:26] » I. >> I'm Councilman Brady and I vote I. That

[1:00:29] passes 5. It's 6:33 p.m.

Tooele City Council Work Meeting - August 5, 2026

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