[0:15] We'll try.

[0:19] » Give me good luck.

[0:33] Monday's

[0:43] fine. >> Just as long as it's

[0:49] just long.

[0:57] should be enough 15 minutes. >> Okay.

[1:48] How

[1:58] It's over already.

[2:13] All right. order

[2:18] to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it

[2:24] stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice

[2:30] for all.

[2:35] » September. >> Stacy, could you please do roll call?

[2:40] » Mr. Art, >> here.

[2:42] » Mr. Badger, >> here. Miss Busher here.

[2:44] » Miss Hassler is absent. Mr. Staler >> here.

[2:48] » Mr. Wel is absent. >> Mr. White

[2:51] » here. >> And Mr. Miller is absent.

[2:53] » Okay. Thank you, Stacy. All right. Approval of minutes. We do

[2:59] not have minutes, so we're going to move on from there.

[3:03] Communications. Stacy. >> Uh, without Mr. Klein being here. Uh he

[3:09] did email us to ask that we um

[3:16] for the first time I believe uh since the humbling parade now comes over to

[3:22] the west side of top 10. He would uh like to have no parking on the north

[3:28] side of Hoy Street from Haw Street to South Kalapill Street on the night of

[3:33] the parade which is October 10th with the ring date of October 11th.

[3:38] » That would be a date. >> It's

[3:41] the rout's changing. >> No, but they're not on street. have

[3:47] observed over the years that it really does get tight for emergency vehicles to

[3:52] make it through White Street when people are parking along there to be close to

[3:58] the parade. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Okay. So,

[4:00] they want to move the north side of White Street from West to Cal. That's no

[4:03] parking for the night of the parade. >> So, that would need to be approved by

[4:08] council. >> Yes. Yes. So we can we get a motion to

[4:12] uh no parking on the north side of White Street from Hod Street to Callahill

[4:16] Street on October 10th.

[4:20] » All right. Any questions? All those in favor?

[4:25] » Anyone opposed? >> Thank you. And just two reminders. Um

[4:31] one that trickor treat again this year will be held on October 31st uh from

[4:36] 6:00 p. a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and that the fire company will be holding the trunk

[4:42] or treat this year on the same night, October 31st from 6:00 to 8 on South

[4:48] Avenue. >> Perfect.

[4:51] Thank you, Stacy. Okay, Mayor Miller is not here, so we will

[4:56] move on to uh hearing of any visitors regarding agenda items.

[5:07] Good evening everyone. Uh my name is Alex Bar from HRG here with

[5:12] David from Everroo. I'm here in regards to the discussion or ongoing discussion

[5:17] that we have the two properties located on home road or currently owned by Don

[5:22] and looking to split utilities from the ever property uh connecting to top of

[5:27] Burough's global water and sewer facilities. Uh we've been working with

[5:31] Burrow and the township for quite some time now. got to a point where there's

[5:35] been a drafted a municipal agreement uh which has been passed over to to Avery

[5:40] for their review. Uh we have provided some comments back to the to the uh

[5:45] township uh for review and just felt like we wanted to maybe discuss if the

[5:50] council is okay with that to clarify if there's any additional information

[5:53] that's needed. you still feel like there's a few items that are outstanding

[5:57] in order to get this uh get this to a point where all parties are willing and

[6:02] able to to sign off on this. Uh we did we did submit a letter to the township

[6:07] back in uh on June 19th indicating essentially the four comments that we

[6:11] have um which we received some response back from the township. I think two of

[6:16] which you guys are amendable to which I'd like to just confirm with and then

[6:19] the other two still seems like it's up in the air and I just want to make sure

[6:22] that we're working towards getting the information that the township needs in

[6:26] order to clarify uh you know what needs to be done to get this agreement

[6:31] complete. So I I'd like to discuss that today if

[6:36] possible. Um at least I got an idea what the next steps are. Uh I think we've got

[6:40] some good traction with the draft being circulated amongst all parties. Um, I

[6:45] just wanted to see if we had an opportunity to to take a few minutes and

[6:48] discuss these comments. >> So, Pam, I I know you've been briefed on

[6:52] this. Is this something that we should discuss here or because it's already

[6:57] going back and forth, this is something we should not discuss here.

[7:02] » I think you can handle it either way. Um,

[7:06] it's public comment. Council not to general public conduct. You can take

[7:12] things under adisement. Um,

[7:17] I think it depends on the council's appetite.

[7:19] » What do you suggest we do? >> Thanks. So, since there's a

[7:23] representative here, if anyone has any questions for him, obviously I think,

[7:27] you know, good opportunity for you to vet those questions if they're not

[7:30] answered in the materials that you already have.

[7:35] » Okay. So, anybody on council, I mean, how do how do you guys feel about this?

[7:41] » Do we want to discuss it here?

[7:48] your thoughts on >> Okay. All right. Fine. We'll do that

[7:51] here. >> So, what are the qu what are the You

[7:55] said you have a couple questions there. You wanted to kind of get squared away.

[7:59] » Yes. So, the first one happened to be with the cost allocation. Our

[8:02] understanding is that the owner will be paying for the water and sewer um

[8:06] extensions. Um, as part of some of the language in the agreement, we'd like to

[8:10] have in there that if anyone does connect on those property on those lines

[8:14] in the future, we would get a a portion of of the tapping fees uh through an

[8:19] agreement. I think that's pretty standard of of how we handle them with

[8:22] other taxes just to kind of reimburse and putting in the the infrastructure

[8:26] that's needed for this. But if anybody were to take advantage of that in the

[8:29] future, a portion of the tax or some sort of agreement that there would be a

[8:33] bit of reimbursement if anybody were to connect to that. Our understanding was

[8:37] that the town or the burrow was amendable to that. I just we never

[8:42] really got formal clarification. I just wanted to make sure that we were

[8:45] » That is correct. That's correct. Thank you.

[8:48] » Um we also believe that in there there

[8:51] should be a service standard when it comes to the pressure that's being is

[8:54] that will be able to be provided to our two properties. I believe that the

[8:58] response that we got back was that hydro testing would need to be provided or

[9:03] performed in order to get the pressures of where we're trying to connect. I just

[9:06] like to get clarification on whether the burl will be doing those hydro tests or

[9:11] do you need you know the consultants of the owner to do the hy test. Just trying

[9:15] to get some clarification on who's going to be doing that so we keep this moving

[9:18] forward. >> The design of the year in terms of

[9:22] testing that you should schedule it with you and

[9:26] » uh schedule with water department and that dependent.

[9:32] » Sure. >> Okay.

[9:34] » Okay. So, we will look to we can we can perform those. We just want to know

[9:38] whether who's going to be taking part on that. If you want to if you want to

[9:43] submit your your procedure, we'll take a little review that you um so of the two

[9:52] larger um comments that we have. First was the the dedication of the water and

[9:57] sewer lines. So, um, our proposed our proposed plan right now is to install an

[10:03] individual delta iron water main that has a connection point at home road um,

[10:10] I'm sorry, home road and Heming with Hemingsville Road uh, to provide a a

[10:15] water main going onto our properties with individual services for our two

[10:18] properties. And then similarly, we'll have a separate gravity sewer main uh,

[10:22] that connects to our at that intersection to provide sewer service to

[10:26] both of those properties. Our understand our request is and I guess we got

[10:31] projected as part of the uh letter was for these this infrastructure to be

[10:36] dedicated to the burough. Um we have been we have water manes and gravity

[10:41] sewer mains being installed in a existing public rightway. Um in my eyes

[10:47] I haven't really we haven't really gotten any explanation as to why the

[10:50] burl was hesitant to to take dedication with this. We will be looking to design

[10:55] the semi burough standards. We'll have all the testing performed obviously pay

[10:59] for any construction inspection to be to ensure that this has been installed

[11:02] properly. So we're just trying to get some clarification as to why the burrow

[11:07] is unlimited to take dedication of these water banks within the public right and

[11:12] if there's anything that we can do to continue that conversation.

[11:19] question. Once these lines are on their property,

[11:25] it becomes their responsibility. Okay. Just like in in my house,

[11:32] » right? >> Where the once we hit the

[11:37] border, once we get the curve box from there on in, it's my responsibility up

[11:42] to the curve box becomes the girl's responsibility.

[11:46] It's that understanding. Yes. Yeah.

[11:49] » The private water services each of the properties would be on

[11:54] and sewer. Yes. After clean, but it's the mains and the road that we're

[11:59] looking to get dedication on. And our our indication was that the Burke was

[12:02] not willing to take dedication on those utilities

[12:08] and also the inspection. Once these services are being installed, there

[12:15] needs to be a proper inspection. apply the bureau to make sure it's done to the

[12:19] burough standards.

[12:23] » The the burrow's concern is the chances of other people connecting is pretty

[12:29] slim. So we're being asked the burrow is being asked to take over what amounts to

[12:35] very long with only one customer to recoup future

[12:40] cost. That's I guess is a sticking issue.

[12:44] We're going to we're most likely the world's going to be stuck with

[12:47] maintaining hundreds of feet in it. >> It's about thousand feet.

[12:52] » Yeah. Thousands of feet of what eventually is essentially is a very

[12:58] long.

[13:01] So um for one customer that I mean regardless of the public

[13:09] rightway issue, it's still a lot for the burrow to maintain that much pipe for a

[13:15] customer. >> Correct. I mean 53 52

[13:24] » given it is a large

[13:28] unit that will be connected to the flow coming coming through. So,

[13:34] you know, for for Diaon to take ownership or maintain ownership of this,

[13:38] we need to have a licensed operator in order to take care of this, which which

[13:43] they're not equipped to to have right now. Uh, obviously, right now, their

[13:47] water and sewer is going from Everr, uh, which is only maintained by Everrew.

[13:51] They have their own their own operators to maintain both of those systems. Um,

[13:56] however, with the split, they are trying to part ways with they go their separate

[14:01] ways. So, you know, right now it's just they're not set up to have an operator

[14:05] on the hand to maintain that one section of sewer and that one section. So,

[14:11] wanted to see if there was anything and continue this conversation. Thank you

[14:15] for for the explanation on the particular property owner, be it a large

[14:19] property owner discharging on the top end. Um to see if there is anything that

[14:25] we can do or anything any further discussion that we can do to move this

[14:30] along is is a bit of a sticking point on on Don side that would really prevent

[14:35] them from doing this. Right. No, the house

[14:43] right

[14:47] » two highrises on home road that are right on the road on opposite sides of

[14:52] the >> Yeah, it's Luther Cra Luther Meadows and

[14:56] » so you're d you're thinking the old school building the old thinking you

[15:01] around home and it's >> they're both home

[15:05] » both home and the tenants sit outside on the chairs.

[15:13] » Maybe

[15:19] it's called >> Oh, how much fun was that?

[15:25] » So, we're talking about how the windows. Yeah.

[15:29] » So, >> all right. So, you just kind of want to

[15:32] see if we can open conversation about that again. We're not

[15:37] just that further conversation. >> We will note that

[15:43] on that as well. So I can see your >> Okay, perfect. So the last item here on

[15:49] the go for for water and sewer as it relates to sewer ting fees and water

[15:54] volume allocations. So I'll start with the with the sewer ting fees. So we

[16:00] believe that well let me let me back up with the flow coming from these two

[16:03] properties going through the ever true property ever does connect their sewer

[16:07] toward to the burrows sew sanitary sewer system so the sewer flows that are

[16:13] coming from these two properties are already contributing to the bur sanitary

[16:16] sewer system we just looking to to connect it in a different location to

[16:20] separate from we wanted to confirm that there wouldn't

[16:24] be any additional tapping fees as it relates to the sewer because we were

[16:29] already connected to the burrow sewer. We're just changing the location of of

[16:33] which so my understanding was that there was going to be need to be some further

[16:37] investigation or more information to justify that. Uh I'm not sure off the

[16:43] top of my head when those connections were made back in the day, but they were

[16:46] connected through ever true and our thoughts are that we shouldn't have to

[16:50] pay tax fees for sewer that was already connected.

[16:56] any additional information that you could ask of us to provide. We will look

[17:00] to to try and dig up and just try to see what would be needed from your I guess

[17:05] the issue is technically the original owner will maintain ownership of that

[17:10] capacity because they purchased it. Okay. So even

[17:17] so you've subdivided different ownership unless this is where it gets legally

[17:23] confusing for me. I don't know what happens to the other parties unloed

[17:29] EDUs. Do they revert back to the burrow and

[17:33] then you have to purchase them? I don't think you can purchase them directly

[17:38] from the other entity because they're it's our plan capacity.

[17:43] So that that's the that's the that's the rub here because technically the

[17:49] capacity we sold is owned by another entity and as far as I know they haven't

[17:55] surrendered it if they have plans of future expansions they have full rights

[17:59] to those you use they purchase even though you're part of their flow

[18:04] now you you separated so I don't know where that puts us

[18:09] » that would probably be an else question

[18:13] » just looking for guidance on how a girl would like to handle this and I

[18:18] understand I understand why you can't sell their stuff. So I understand that

[18:26] they're to surrender their ed but then you're still buying them from

[18:32] us. So how that works like I said they they bought all

[18:38] capacity therefore they're entitled to that capacity would there be any

[18:44] money

[18:48] what's the advantage of that financial benefit

[19:00] just trying we want to make that we the flow has already been excuse me

[19:06] connected. So again we feel like a case should be handheld there. So

[19:12] excuse me. So the other aspect here is the water application volume for each of

[19:18] the units. So we have uh I understand that the burrows EDU is 250 gallons a

[19:24] day. Um we ever true and Don do own other properties of similar capacity uh

[19:32] in which we have provided water water bills from the American water for 2

[19:36] years uh that justify about 60 gallon I'm sorry 60 gallons a day green usage

[19:42] for for 2 years on a very similar site. Um so our request is to requ is to

[19:50] request a 60 gallon a day per unit uh water allocation as opposed to the 250

[19:56] gallon a day. Um the response that we received from the township was that we

[20:01] felt like we need to cover the averages of the PA water bill um which we're open

[20:07] for discussion. Uh we just gave you the average across 365 days of usage. So

[20:14] if there's another way of looking at those water bills to justify this

[20:18] reduction in water usage, we're open for discussion there as well.

[20:24] » And how many units are we talking? >> Uh 52 and 53.

[20:35] » Okay. All right. I think we have uh these

[20:39] three uh points written down here. This is something we're discussing.

[20:48] » Correct. >> Correct.

[20:52] » Yes, definitely.

[20:56] » So, thank you for your time. Of course. I just want to clarify is this something

[21:01] that will be up for discussion at next month's meeting? Is this something that

[21:04] we hope to schedule meeting between now and next month? I just want to get

[21:08] clarity on what the expectations are and I'm not putting a rush shot. I just want

[21:12] to know are we waiting till the next month to have this this bill this

[21:15] discussion. >> I would say probably yes. I mean, you

[21:18] know, as you can see, we've got two uh council members out tonight and you

[21:21] know, we'd much rather have everybody's input in this.

[21:24] » So, we will pass the notes on and uh hopefully we'll have a discussion.

[21:30] » And if the EDU research involves any in any way PA D that'll be consuming and we

[21:38] can't judge that. >> Yeah. Okay.

[21:40] » I apologize for that. But if it requires them to sign off on something

[21:45] » about our capacity. >> Sure.

[21:48] » That'll be a delay. Sorry. >> Okay. Okay.

[21:53] » Great. Well, I appreciate your time. >> Thank you.

[21:54] » Thank you. >> Did anybody have any questions for Ever?

[22:00] He was talking quite a bit. I'm Dave from Everly.

[22:08] We're trying to separate out so we can we don't have to come to service

[22:15] you in whatever decisions and whatever direction you need. So please feel free

[22:19] to contact us and we'll give you whatever information we can.

[22:23] » Perfect. >> Thank you.

[22:25] » Thank you. Since these two connections are involved

[22:35] in they need to be aware of aware of this

[22:41] interunal agreement too

[22:47] as well.

[22:53] » Okay. >> Great. Thank you. Thank you.

[22:56] » Thank you.

[22:59] » Okay. Any other hearing visitors regarding agenda items?

[23:05] » All right. Moving on.

[23:10] » Looks like you're up here. So, it's my understanding that you have been

[23:15] given a revision for ordinance 6-202 for studio requirements and restrictions

[23:23] um to be considered via adoption of a resolution if you're so inclined. Um my

[23:31] understand is updating the fees associated with these permits in

[23:37] consultations with the engineer to bring them into the modern range.

[23:43] » Yeah, that's why we discussed this last time. All right, so it looks like we

[23:49] need a um motion to adopt resolution 1926, which is amending our uh fees and

[23:56] permit schedule.

[24:00] Everybody have their copy of this? >> Y.

[24:02] » Okay, good. Okay.

[24:09] » All right. Anybody have any questions? All those in favor?

[24:14] » Anyone opposed?

[24:20] » And the second matter from our section is a request from Mr.

[24:27] to for you to authorize him to review

[24:34] a number of your nuisance ordinances. Um I believe there was a prior discussion

[24:42] regarding barking dogs. um that brought to light the fact that a member of your

[24:48] ordinance has still placed the enforcement power or obligation with the

[24:54] chief of police which you no longer have. So he was asking for permission to

[25:00] go through those ordinances, find those sorts of references and make

[25:04] recommendations for updates.

[25:11] » Right. Yeah. I think I think it'd be a great idea, too. Do we need to make a

[25:16] motion on that? >> Okay.

[25:22] All right. One more. So, so he's he's just

[25:26] » well and make recommendations. >> Yeah. Yes.

[25:32] » I see that >> it goes back quite a way.

[25:36] » Yes, it does. I was I was the secretary at that time.

[25:40] » Yeah. >> I saw that.

[25:47] » All right. Anybody have any questions about that? All those in favor? I.

[25:51] » Anyone opposed? Very good. Okay.

[25:58] Thank you, ma'am. Stacy,

[26:03] manager report. >> So, during the past month, uh we

[26:06] continue to work with our new software company, G Works. It's going very slowly

[26:12] and it's been tough. Um we began working with um a new vendor that we f were

[26:19] familiar with as a sign vendor who's now taken on um GIS databases

[26:26] on an hourly rate. So we wanted to see what kind of work he would uh produce.

[26:34] So, public works water and sewer would like to start using that vendor and we

[26:40] started using him as a test for the signs and mapping all of the signs in

[26:46] the burrow. So, hopefully that'll go well and

[26:50] continue in the future because that's a big need in the future. Uh, we obtained

[26:56] a newer, not new, but newer bucket truck um through Muna bid. So, we did win that

[27:02] bid and it's in our possession and it's already been used and works

[27:09] well. We're working with the solicitor on a bunch of ordinances including

[27:16] nuisance ordinances and our abandoned vehicles

[27:20] will also be included.

[27:25] Community organizations were sent an email to submit uh requests for funding

[27:31] for support for the 2027 fiscal new year. Uh they were due yesterday, so we

[27:38] did receive answers from most organizations in the community.

[27:43] We've been issuing quality of life violations

[27:46] and responding to them with the help of council members as well.

[27:52] following up and gathering information for our staff. Revisions were made to

[27:58] the employee handbook. Uh the 2027 budget was presented to the finance

[28:03] chair, Miss Hassler, and we are continuing to work with her to formulate

[28:08] a draft for all the council and we are due to submit the MS4 annual

[28:15] report at the end of September. So, I'll be working with Mr. White on finalizing

[28:20] that report.

[28:24] Then the other items under um my section of the agenda, the PA auditor general

[28:31] regularly comes on site to audit um liquid fuels, but this one is for our

[28:36] pension. Uh so uh a representative from that office will be here this week and

[28:44] electronically we've been submitting most of the information. So hopefully

[28:48] it'll be very quick on-site meeting. The 2027

[28:54] MMO will meet minimum municipal obligation for the bureau uh was

[28:59] presented to council and it would need to be approved by council this evening

[29:03] in order to meet the the deadline to let our administrator know how much we are

[29:10] obligated to contribute next year. That's between 3:00.

[29:16] » Correct. >> Yes, sir.

[29:27] » Okay. Does everybody have the worksheet?

[29:35] » Any questions? Because this is new to this council, most members of council.

[29:53] Are you looking for a motion? >> Yes.

[29:56] » Just want to make sure that everybody >> I

[30:01] » I'll second that.

[30:05] Anybody have any questions about this?

[30:11] All right. All those in favor? >> Anyone opposed? All right. Stacey.

[30:18] » And then the last item is that the pickup is going to start October 12th.

[30:26] If there are any moves at that point, we will start after that. But just to let

[30:31] the community know all the candy from the

[30:37] » Thank you. All right. Thank you, Stacey. >> All right. Committee reports and

[30:45] environment committee. Mr. White,

[30:57] » very good. Thank you. Personnel, Mr. Staer,

[31:01] » I think everybody has this in their mail box.

[31:07] I would like you please to review it next meeting. I would really like to

[31:11] take action on it at the next meeting. However, uh Stacy pointed out a couple

[31:18] items that need to be we need to get back to review

[31:23] a couple items in there. They're just maybe 6% of the majority of them is

[31:30] ready to go. So, I appreciate if you review it. Uh

[31:35] in the meantime, Kathy and Sab and I are going to get

[31:39] together to check those items that need to be addressed. For example, on the one

[31:45] page is talking about a safety committee. We don't even have a safety

[31:48] committee. All right. So, we're going to go back hopefully next week we can meet

[31:54] and I'll have those corrections uh sent to Stacy and then she can update

[32:02] them her page. And then you please She she'll send you an email when they're

[32:08] ready so that if you're viewing this plus the revisions, we should be ready

[32:15] for next meeting. So hopefully we can take action on on that and get that in

[32:19] place. Perfect. Okay. Does anybody have any questions?

[32:24] » No. But thank you guys for doing this because this is not an easy job to do.

[32:29] So just one thing. Uh this is the handbook.

[32:36] Should the contract

[32:40] with the union employees be part of this?

[32:44] » No. >> No.

[32:46] » Okay, never mind. >> There you go.

[32:49] » They they they are interpreted in conjunction with each other, but they

[32:54] are two separate documents. >> Okay. Okay then. No problem. Then it

[33:00] should be hopefully agenda for next month.

[33:04] » Thank you. That's it. >> Perfect. Thanks, K. All right. Streets

[33:08] committee. Uh, Mr. Wetszel is not here. Do we need approval to proceed with the

[33:14] » Yes. So, um, each council member should have a copy of Mr.

[33:20] opinion on the topic of moving forward with the cooperative

[33:26] municipalities to look into and hopefully purchase a used roller that

[33:33] cooperatively could be used in the future by the four municipalities. Um,

[33:38] one of the major items that Mr. Wetel explained was renting it. The ease of

[33:44] renting every time um the season comes to pave. It must be rented from a vendor

[33:53] and what happens is they rent it at the beginning of when we plan to pave. They

[34:00] hang on to it and they have to house it for all those months. Otherwise, if they

[34:05] return it to the vendor, >> it could be rented out to somebody else

[34:09] and then we don't get a roller, >> right,

[34:11] » for all the paving projects we have in the four municipalities.

[34:15] And the cost per month is um under $5,000.

[34:21] So, this would probably pay for itself within

[34:24] » I mean, this is just the same way we did the other one.

[34:27] » Other pieces of equipment. >> I mean, it makes sense.

[34:31] » Yeah. and the mileage is very or the hours on it is very good.

[34:37] » So that was his opinion and that was his explanation.

[34:41] So Mr. Wetzel did say he would support the purchase. We're approving to go

[34:46] through the process. >> Yeah. So

[34:48] » because it would come back to council again for the final purchase with the

[34:52] dollar amount etc. >> All right. So we just need a motion to

[34:54] move forward with the process of purchasing. This 55 is that split

[34:59] between the >> four municipalities. Correct.

[35:02] » So we need a motion to move forward with the process. We're purchasing not

[35:06] purchasing the process of it. So anybody have any questions? All those in

[35:13] favor? >> I. Anyone opposed? All right.

[35:19] » And with Mr. Wetzel's absence, I'll report that M. Long swamp is the last

[35:24] one to be um the cooperative municipality who's been experiencing

[35:29] paving the last couple of weeks they built. Now they're paving. It's a very

[35:33] long street. So expect our staff to be involved with paving for at least two

[35:38] weeks. >> Sure.

[35:42] And then with Northolk Southern, we had a report and photographs from a resident

[35:47] that the storm water was being retained and it shouldn't be. So it was reported

[35:55] to Norfolk Southern and they quickly did a PA1 call, came on site and rectified

[36:01] the situation.

[36:08] » Downtown. Okay.

[36:14] » I have no idea. >> If you get the report, you can pass it

[36:18] along to me and I'll pass it along to our folks.

[36:22] » Thank you.

[36:27] » Yeah. You know >> floors that in front of Jackson.

[36:36] » Yeah.

[36:40] » Yeah. They're getting older. >> We're grateful that they

[36:46] » probably address the storm water issue. >> Next time next time they're going to

[36:50] tear all these rails down. I'm sure they're going to do it again soon. When

[36:55] they do the re have them all

[37:01] when you go across to Jackson. >> I mean they just leave that sweet.

[37:08] It's really about 10 by 10. >> Yeah. Cuz there is a lot of people that

[37:13] walk there. A lot of people >> next time they want to go replace those

[37:18] rails say no. >> Yeah.

[37:21] » They allow you to do it unless you do that.

[37:24] I don't think we're even allowed to say no.

[37:29] » You can still try. >> And they do outsource a lot of the

[37:34] actual paving work there. Staff are on site, but

[37:40] » it's easier when you're walking down to go across.

[37:45] » Yeah. >> That area small area in there.

[37:49] » Sure. Sure. >> I mean to the pro. Well, a lot of people

[37:52] I mean you park all over the place to go to any of those businesses down there.

[37:56] People are walking around down there a lot. Yeah, definitely. So, definitely.

[38:00] Okay. Thank you, Stacy. All right. So, finance

[38:04] committee, um, Miss Hassler is not here, so we all have the list of bills to be

[38:12] paid and the little note on the front of this that we're currently migrating.

[38:17] So, some things will be corrected and added here.

[38:22] So what you see is a list of checks and then transactions.

[38:30] So the checks are still being processed through our current software and the new

[38:35] software are the other reports that are attached.

[38:39] » Yeah. >> So the check register report is the new

[38:46] couple. Okay. Okay. It's payroll primarily because we

[38:52] haven't done accounts payable and receable in totally in the new

[38:57] » on the new software. Okay. >> And then the transfers are still on the

[39:00] old software as well. >> Okay. All right. Can I

[39:03] » Yes, sir. >> Then I need a motion to uh pay the bills

[39:10] » and I'll second that. >> Any questions?

[39:15] All those in favor? Anyone >> opposed?

[39:30] » Um, sewer is getting stronger now that rates have been adjusted and debt will

[39:37] decrease over the next couple of years. So, watch that.

[39:43] I mean, we're not >> line items if it's over budget and we'll

[39:48] see budget revision >> soon,

[39:51] » but nothing terrible. >> Thanks.

[39:55] » Sure. >> Correct. Okay. Does everybody have the

[40:00] budget revision looks like this? We have this here.

[40:10] » Sure.

[40:13] I know the lights were flickering too.

[40:19] » So, >> we just paid the bills. I mean, come on.

[40:22] » So, due to the fact that we are not proceeding with a few projects in the

[40:30] burough this year, that's where the money is being moved from. One of which

[40:35] is police. So we brought that down to zeros for the services and the um

[40:41] services for investigation. So those are the first two lines that are brought

[40:46] down to zero. And then the perennial stream since we don't need a match this

[40:50] year for a grant that we don't have we uh reduced that line item down to you

[40:58] know $2,500

[41:01] that we will need to put in the budget for next year. Just put that as a note

[41:05] in the back of your mind. So those items were reduced to pay for the bucket

[41:11] truck. The bucket truck came in with a price tag of 15,000 plus a fee for

[41:19] municip. That's a certain percent. So that's

[41:22] 16,350 total for the newer bucket truck. And

[41:27] then the pool demo, as you recall, it was budgeted at $20,000

[41:33] because it was expected that inhouse staff would perform the work. Once

[41:39] council decided to bid that work and have it done by a contractor, the budget

[41:46] line item had to be increased. and we increased it to 115 to hopefully cover

[41:53] all of the engineering fees that will will be built, you know, in the future.

[42:00] To date, it's a little less than 115 for the total project.

[42:05] » I hate not seeing a pool there, but the grass looks great. They did a good job.

[42:10] So, all right. So, then we need to approve

[42:14] this. So, I need a motion to approve these uh

[42:18] budget revisions and uh for the pool deation demolition and the purchase of

[42:22] the used bucket truck.

[42:28] » Any questions? >> That's coming up on the agenda.

[42:33] » Look at that. >> All those in favor?

[42:38] » Anyone opposed? >> Thank you.

[42:41] » Very good. Thank you. So, community relations, uh, that is me.

[42:47] So, the community report, uh, the, uh, um, music in the park went very well

[42:51] this summer, I think. I think people were very happy with it. This last one

[42:55] certainly drew a crowd. Um, thankful to, uh, Redeemer Church for doing uh, the

[43:00] food there, which was great. Um, and also Stephanie in the office took care

[43:05] of some of the logistics for that last one, which was great. and uh she did

[43:10] want me to read some uh of the uh notes on the uh Topton on Wheels Touch a Truck

[43:15] event coming up. That is September 12th from 12:00 to 4:00. That'll be on South

[43:19] Kalah Hill Street between Weiss and Oak Alley. There are 14 trucks registered,

[43:24] eight vendors, and including a possible medevac landing if their schedule

[43:28] allows, which I think is always exciting. Everyone loves that, you know.

[43:32] Um, the event will also host a scavenger hunt for participants to find a few

[43:36] truck features and the bottom that form will act as an entry for a raffle prize.

[43:40] So far, there are two people committed to a basket. Um, please include whom to

[43:46] pay for the raffle basket, I guess. Do we have those? I don't know. Uh, still

[43:50] looking for raffle baskets or prizes like gift cards, trucks, our vendors

[43:53] until Thursday the 10th. So, if anyone knows anyone that would like to do that,

[43:57] that would be great. But I think Stephanie worked pretty hard on this, so

[43:59] that was great. Um that is really all I have uh for

[44:04] community relations. So next we have properties and events and that is uh Mr.

[44:11] We need a motion to authorize to advi uh advertise for a bid for the 1994

[44:21] Ford Superduty with just about the truck.

[44:35] All right. >> Any questions? All those in favor? I.

[44:41] » Anyone oppose?

[44:47] And just with since it's time to talk about the

[44:51] budget, there are some of the burrow on the sidewalks need

[44:56] attention on Cal Hill Street. There are seven sections

[45:01] plus we should maybe look at the ramps while we're doing the work.

[45:06] » Um I don't know if we want to do that in

[45:12] or houser

[45:16] as per also on memorial there's seven to nine sections

[45:23] to replace and possibly three down closer to the bank and a ramp at

[45:30] memorial

[45:35] sections are like 48 by See? >> Okay.

[45:42] » Yeah, it's definitely something we should look at because there's a lot of

[45:45] places that need attention. >> I don't understand.

[45:49] There was two sections replaced, then a good section and then a bad section. Why

[45:54] didn't they do that? >> Yeah.

[45:58] » Section when they had this >> for the same reason Norfolk doesn't go

[46:02] all the way over when they do there.

[46:08] Oh, that's right. That was the whole town.

[46:10] » The old basketball court. I'm just going to put it out there.

[46:15] » Everybody can look at it and maybe come up with an idea of what we can do there.

[46:19] » We had talked about many years ago making it parking for the bowl field

[46:24] that's there. >> Well, the bowl field, the tea ball,

[46:29] remember was bottom of the >> correct ball court. They were going to

[46:34] use that as

[46:38] What happened? The T-ball field moved together. They moved it back. The

[46:43] people that were going to put a whiffle ball field in there when T-ball field

[46:48] moved that fell through. So now it just But people on Smith Street

[46:57] don't have a parking lot when it snows because the church don't want them to

[47:02] use the >> But if you make it parking. I I don't

[47:07] want it to become an abandoned corn lot,

[47:11] » you know. Yeah. >> Yeah. If you're going to use it for

[47:14] parking, you almost have to do like a a fence that would separate that from

[47:20] what's the first house? 19 East West Street, I think, is the number. I'm not

[47:24] sure. >> There's got to be a dividing line there.

[47:30] I would think. >> I mean, I know they talked about a skate

[47:34] park there, but that came back with a figure.

[47:41] » Yeah. >> But I don't see why we would have to

[47:44] spend that kind of money, >> right?

[47:45] » Cuz we have we could mill it off and we could put a new coat on. We have the

[47:51] equipment, >> you know.

[47:54] » Yeah. >> More like more like a hockey roller

[47:57] hockey. >> Yeah. put a fence around its

[48:02] for

[48:07] » Yeah. >> Just

[48:08] » something to think about. >> Yes. if we can do it next year or you

[48:12] know just thinking some plans and like Stacy mentioned

[48:21] abandoning Carly's partly street is moved

[48:26] and talking with Taylor about the colonial

[48:31] life issue and there's baby steps being taken there.

[48:35] » Okay. Okay. Well, that's what they hear. All

[48:43] right. Utilities and events committee. Mrs.

[48:47] Busher.

[48:52] Um, we need to get approval for executing

[48:58] for a 2027 F3504

[49:04] SD Super.

[49:18] Yeah, I think.

[49:23] » So, the truck itself is the 48170 and the fitting outfitting of it is

[49:30] 32139. >> So, add those two together and that's

[49:35] the total amount for the scale.

[49:40] » Did you add it? >> It is

[49:45] » $80,39.

[49:52] That's $9 over what I want. >> We approximated it.

[49:58] » Okay. Okay. >> We fully did.

[49:59] » Yeah. >> All right. So, we're just looking for

[50:02] approval to execute the quotes to order the truck right now.

[50:05] » So, we need a motion for that. >> I'm sure a motion.

[50:10] » A motion just to um execute the quotes to order the truck.

[50:13] » Oh, that's motion. Okay. Well, second. Anyone have

[50:20] any questions? All those in favor? I. Anyone opposed?

[50:26] All right. Execute those.

[50:48] A lot of people.

[50:52] » So, you had your you have nothing in front

[50:58] of you.

[51:06] » Um

[51:09] sir, it looks like we need to discuss um the joint meeting with Swan Township

[51:16] to discuss alternative drinking uh for water well and respond to possible

[51:23] dates.

[51:27] » Did they give us any dates that they're looking for?

[51:39] » No, they like a few dates. Um Mr. would take them to the other supervisors and

[51:46] their solicitors. >> And are they looking for it for this

[51:48] month? Are they looking >> as soon as possible? I'm sure because

[51:53] the year is going to get away with all of us with budgets.

[51:57] » And obviously the well issue is something we need to you know

[52:02] » get a move on. So

[52:08] » six years, right? >> Yeah.

[52:12] Definitely. >> So, um,

[52:18] what is everybody? >> I was going to say who needs to attend.

[52:21] Do all of us need to attend? >> It will be a public meeting. It will be

[52:25] advertised. It will be advertised as a joint.

[52:28] » Where are we having? >> We'll probably have to

[52:32] um get a larger venue like we've done in the past. Either the middle school, high

[52:36] school. >> Okay.

[52:39] and how long does that take to coordinate?

[52:41] » I mean, we're going to have to figure out what they have available and then

[52:45] we're going to have to see if we're available.

[52:47] » So, maybe that's what we should do first is see what venue is available. We can't

[52:51] just say we're going to meet on the 23rd at the middle school without asking the

[52:54] middle school if it's available. >> Okay.

[52:56] » So, why don't we see what they have available first and then put it out

[52:59] there and see what we can >> in general. Are there certain days of

[53:02] the week that or days of the month that are not for members of council?

[53:08] » Well, this month I won't be here the 15th and

[53:13] 17th or the 24th to the 27th. >> Okay.

[53:18] » Which 26th and 27th, Saturday and Sundays.

[53:22] » Okay. Anyone else you want to go around the table?

[53:26] » Anything else? I'm pretty flexible.

[53:29] » Yeah, you tell me and I'll make it work. >> Okay.

[53:33] » Okay. >> No problem.

[53:35] » Okay, that's it. I'll do that. >> Yeah, we should

[53:39] » I'll check with the middle school. >> Yeah. And then we'll see what we can do.

[53:43] Okay. >> Okay.

[53:44] » Perfect. Thank you. >> I'll let Mr.

[54:01] And then the last thing um we're looking for is um discussion and um regarding

[54:10] the history book. Um you guys were provided a list of

[54:18] votes um and the committee which was just Uh Colleen

[54:23] and I have decided to go choose with Algra um with the purchase of being

[54:30] $3,560.38.

[54:34] Um and we're looking to sell them roughly $20 for a little bit

[54:40] of a profit. Um we do already have some donation Washington donation

[54:47] sponsorships and um that have come in. We're a little under 600 others that

[54:53] came in and plus we're getting more with the sale of the ordinance to also cover

[54:58] some of that. Mhm. >> Um

[55:01] we were also um

[55:07] just Yeah. So that that was the discussion

[55:11] that we had. Um and then there was something about somebody was it one of

[55:16] the schools doing it. Ben, you were saying about designing

[55:22] graphic design. Was that for the >> Yes. So we do um Ben, I don't know if

[55:26] you know Ben. He graduated last year. He's a self at college. He is assisting

[55:36] with some of the writing, but his girlfriend does graphic design. So,

[55:41] they're both as volunteers um working on getting things together

[55:48] for us, >> which is kind of nice. So she'll as soon

[55:52] as we get the printer, she'll be in touch with the printer to see what

[55:55] formats they need and all that kind of >> and they're volunteering at the time.

[56:00] Correct. >> Okay.

[56:02] » We're going to work out whether the school will get college credit from what

[56:07] they're doing. So yeah, they're willing to speak to their resumes.

[56:12] » Okay. >> Um those the people that have um

[56:20] sponsor the book. We're looking to give them at least one free copy to everybody

[56:26] that has donated or whatever. >> So that's where we're at.

[56:31] » And the people who sponsored the >> Yeah.

[56:41] » We don't have you don't have them with you. The samples that they gave us.

[56:47] » No. Okay. They gave us two different types of

[56:52] sampling and one way it was kind of like a landscape

[56:57] form. >> Oh, nice.

[57:00] » Okay. Anything else?

[57:04] » Okay. Thank you. >> Can Can we Can we communicate with them

[57:08] then? >> Can we communicate?

[57:12] » I'd like to let the other printers know that we're not going to go with them.

[57:16] » Are we going? >> I think so. because we already decided

[57:19] that last time. Yeah. Yeah, we're okay with that.

[57:23] » Okay, that was decided last time. Y. >> Okay.

[57:29] » Then I will place a resolution on the October agenda for passage

[57:34] for us to say be able to as borrow to sell these.

[57:39] » Perfect. >> Engineers reported.

[57:43] » All right. any further discussions that you want to

[57:47] have about the Luther Meadows at Helman's house with me?

[57:53] » I don't think we need to. I think we have questions that they're interested

[57:56] in having an answer to and once we get that we'll move forward with that.

[58:03] » So, we're continuing to push D to improve this planning model for

[58:08] Washington Station. They finally got back to us and asked

[58:12] for uh fees. I don't know why they waited so long. So, we paid those and we

[58:18] also provided them some additional information that they requested. It's

[58:22] getting a little frustrating with them, but what can you do on the chlorine

[58:27] contact chamber? I'm still trying to get an estimate from the vendor on the

[58:33] amount of material that needs to be purchased to compare that. As soon as I

[58:37] have that, I'll for that council. He was away on vacation. He did promise to me

[58:44] promise to me have today have it. So, I'm a little frustrated with that at

[58:49] this point. Moving on to the water well.

[58:55] We are working on the next phase of that. Once again, if you need any

[59:01] assistance with any other things for that well, please let us know. Fiber

[59:08] optic extension. Um, I believe we might be on another project down here now from

[59:14] them. So, batons passed again and it seems like every time they pass a baton,

[59:19] the people take over, start it over from scratch. So, um, we still continue to

[59:26] remind them that, hey, we're not happy with you. Just

[59:30] that's running through everyone's backyards. We need this to be documented

[59:35] because you know they're not going to bother you. They're going to come here

[59:40] to public meetings and say why our backyard you know just happened even

[59:45] though we have nothing to do with. So we're asking them to do their

[59:52] due diligence and that seems to be where they pass to another

[1:00:00] and we started the whole process. So moving on talked to UTI they're still

[1:00:07] working with their issues to try to resolve ours

[1:00:11] reached out to us on Friday last week. Unfortunately reached out to Josh. Josh

[1:00:17] just returned from vacation. So he got the message and he got

[1:00:23] to looks like

[1:00:28] I will update you next month hopefully solution

[1:00:36] report which I saw today. So we'll get on that. Um I wanted to talk to you

[1:00:42] about preparing I was asked to prepare sort of price estimates for water and

[1:00:48] for tapping fee updates. Um, are you looking for just a budgetary

[1:00:55] cost to do those? Cuz we usually don't write proposals and we usually do them

[1:01:00] under general services, but if you want to just have a cost,

[1:01:07] » that would be very helpful. >> Okay. All right. So, I'll do that.

[1:01:12] I'll get that to you very soon. And like I said, we're working on the well

[1:01:18] contract. We're also working on getting some of this grant issues resolved DC.

[1:01:37] » Perfect. That's it. >> All right. Thank you.

[1:01:39] » Thank you. >> All right. Old business, hometown

[1:01:44] heroes. Is there anything that we need to discuss there? We've had a couple

[1:01:48] people interested not um submitting applications. So, we're getting closer

[1:01:53] hopefully to five for our next order.

[1:01:57] » Perfect. Top 10 community ambulance board. Monica

[1:02:08] and Stacy that on us so we got that. Okay, good. Thank you. Perfect.

[1:02:14] Tottenboro Preservation Board. >> Nothing new.

[1:02:18] » Nothing new. Same old. >> Okay.

[1:02:20] » It'll be open Saturday any

[1:02:25] » Oh, nice. Okay. Good. >> Same hours.

[1:02:28] » Perfect. Brandy Community Library. Right. Ray,

[1:02:34] » we had a great summer. >> You did.

[1:02:37] » Great call. Um, just let you know that fundraising continues and We have douts

[1:02:46] at um villas

[1:02:53] and Buckeye Tavern happening. So, you know, you have to eat. Just pick that

[1:02:57] thing. >> That's always a good fundraiser. You

[1:02:59] have to eat. You know, >> those go really well. Um the big sales

[1:03:04] going, which amazingly are going really well. There's always bigs at the desk

[1:03:10] now. Um, and I'll just put a little bug in

[1:03:14] your ear, but sent their chat to us this week.

[1:03:23] disability that >> well have you heard just

[1:03:29] kind of swamped with the software and trying to get the bills out and all that

[1:03:34] but still looking for

[1:03:45] » the vendor fair is

[1:03:49] » okay they're going to have a Saturday. >> Perfect.

[1:03:53] » And it'll be at trunk and tree. >> Perfect.

[1:03:56] » So >> nice. Good.

[1:03:58] » Can I check on something? >> Yeah.

[1:04:00] » The whole time here is is that just for the military or can we expand that to

[1:04:07] like firefighters or >> that would be active counsel?

[1:04:14] cuz I'm wondering if that might if we add to making clothes that maybe that'll

[1:04:19] add to interest

[1:04:27] probably since we didn't have any new ones to go up. We didn't really

[1:04:34] enforce the the two year, >> right?

[1:04:37] » But there's plenty of patterns that have been up two or more years.

[1:04:41] » Sure. Yeah. Huh? Do you want it on the next agenda to discuss it?

[1:04:47] » It might be a good idea. >> Okay. Something to think about.

[1:04:51] » Sure. >> And if we get interested,

[1:04:53] » we don't. Yeah.

[1:04:59] » Yeah. Absolutely. >> And then council would have to then

[1:05:02] decide

[1:05:08] » all of the ones that have been up two years or more come down.

[1:05:13] So >> ours is going to go oldest.

[1:05:15] » Yeah. >> Like if you only need five, take the

[1:05:19] five oldest. But then you run into the problem that people might hurry up.

[1:05:26] » Yeah. Correct. >> I can tell you my dad's coming down.

[1:05:31] » Yeah. So you'll Yeah, absolutely. >> Okay. All right.

[1:05:38] » Sorry. >> Okay.

[1:05:40] No, it's cancelled. >> So, two things that I forgot to mention

[1:05:44] when I was doing my uh little thing. Uh East Penn manufacturing sent us. They

[1:05:48] are having an 80th anniversary open house on Saturday, October 3rd. Um they

[1:05:54] are having a VIP tour for public officials at 10:30 a.m. Uh followed by a

[1:05:58] special anniversary program at 12:15 a.m. We have all been invited. So, if we

[1:06:04] would like to go, we have to uh email the uh government relations and advocacy

[1:06:09] manager. I have all the information here. So, if you'd like to see it, you

[1:06:12] can take a look at it and the schedule and all this fun stuff here. Um I think

[1:06:18] that's very nice. >> We got

[1:06:22] Okay. Did everybody get the St. Barnabas Center thing also?

[1:06:26] » She's shaking her head. Yes. >> I think that was the

[1:06:30] one. >> Yep.

[1:06:31] » Thing. >> Yep. Perfect. So before we uh have any

[1:06:35] other visitors, if there are any and in Germany, I I have two things to just

[1:06:38] kind of put into uh uh your mind to think about, we are one of the only

[1:06:43] municipalities that has um their own water and sewer system that does not

[1:06:48] require a certificate of occupancy when a house is sold or a sewer lateral scope

[1:06:54] when a house is sold. Now, we do have a sewer lateral where Alex goes out, looks

[1:06:58] at it from the inside, and says, "Yep, we're good." Um, however, as we know,

[1:07:03] Toppton is 150 years old, which means there are houses that are 150 years old.

[1:07:08] Uh, I I think it's something that to protect us and to protect homeowners. I

[1:07:13] think it's something we should think about. A certificate of occupancy would

[1:07:17] just be an inspection, but it can be a third party inspector that the seller of

[1:07:23] a home would pay for to go in to make sure, you know, we had a situation on

[1:07:27] Main Street with a water bill. That wouldn't have happened if we would have

[1:07:31] had a certificate of occupancy inspection. Uh sewer lateral, again,

[1:07:36] it's third party, uh a third party person that would go out and put a scope

[1:07:39] down and make sure everything is okay. Again, we had other issues with sewer.

[1:07:44] Maybe it would happen if we would require that. But it's just something to

[1:07:49] think about in the future. And again, I'm not saying we have to be like every

[1:07:53] other municipality, but there's a reason why they do it. It's to protect

[1:07:56] everybody involved. So, just think about that. All right. Hearing the visitors on

[1:08:02] anything else.

[1:08:05] And here we go. I need a motion to adjourn.

[1:08:10] » Should I say? >> All right. Thank you.

[1:08:14] » Oh, you were so close. You said 805. >> It's 806. Oh, man.

[1:08:22] » You kidding me? Order looking

Council Meeting - September 8, 2026

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