[0:02] Yes.

[0:02] >> All right. So, it's August 28th, 27th

[0:08] 7th. We we went through this earlier.

[0:10] >> My god.

[0:11] >> And it's Mark, Jeremy, and Austin uh

[0:15] attending on the meeting. And

[0:19] >> can I grab that? Can I grab yours or

[0:21] grab that agenda? Yeah. Sorry. You want

[0:24] to grab just an agenda?

[0:25] >> Yeah, just an agenda. And I'll have one

[0:27] for myself. Okay. Okay.

[0:30] All right. So, first order of business,

[0:33] we need to

[0:35] approve our meeting minutes from last

[0:37] time.

[0:38] >> Uh, move to approve the minutes.

[0:40] >> Thank you.

[0:41] >> Do we need a second?

[0:42] >> Yeah.

[0:43] >> Second.

[0:44] >> Thanks, Austin. And all in favor?

[0:46] >> They are approved.

[0:48] >> All right.

[0:49] >> And on the new business tonight is you

[0:52] gentlemen at 57 East Main Street.

[0:56] >> And who is Akil?

[0:57] >> Me.

[0:57] >> How do you do? My name is Mark.

[0:59] >> Nice to meet you.

[1:00] >> And how do you do too?

[1:01] >> I'm good. How are you?

[1:02] >> Um, you have a exterior building

[1:05] modifications and signage.

[1:07] >> This is the former Liberty Tax building.

[1:09] >> Oh, yes. I'm your backyard neighbor. I'm

[1:12] president of the Nutmeg Conservatory.

[1:16] » Uh, you have uh you have the the the

[1:18] whatever was emailed to you, right,

[1:20] Austin? So, you can see this stuff.

[1:22] >> Wow.

[1:23] >> Yes, I got everything. Thank you.

[1:25] >> Okay. All right. Good. Okay.

[1:28] you into the building too.

[1:33] >> Or is that

[1:34] >> Oh, so

[1:36] the exterior is going to be

[1:38] >> It just looks like

[1:40] >> So So it's pretty much it's I mean it's

[1:41] just like a a kind of a square building,

[1:44] right? Yeah.

[1:45] >> It's just going to be panels on the

[1:46] wall,

[1:48] >> then the signs on top of

[1:49] >> Very handsome.

[1:50] >> Yeah. So those are that's that's wood

[1:52] paneling on the outside.

[1:53] >> It's going to be plastic.

[1:55] >> It's almost like PC.

[1:57] >> Yeah. It's almost like vertical um

[2:03] what do you call it? Siding.

[2:05] >> Yeah.

[2:12] [clears throat]

[2:12] >> So, tell me a little bit about your

[2:13] project. Obviously, it's a deli and

[2:15] grocery.

[2:16] >> Yeah, it's going to be that.

[2:17] >> Oh, wow. Specialty groceries. Specialty

[2:20] groceries. It's going to be like all the

[2:23] groceries like juices,

[2:27] sodas,

[2:28] uh snacks and all that.

[2:30] >> So, like a quick pickup.

[2:31] >> Yes.

[2:32] >> Okay.

[2:32] >> You have a You're going to have a deli

[2:33] in there, too.

[2:34] >> Deli. Yep.

[2:35] >> That's the

[2:36] >> juice bar, salad bar, and smoothies like

[2:40] >> So, is it eat in as well? No.

[2:44] >> Okay.

[2:45] >> No, no tables at all.

[2:46] >> Okay. So, it's So,

[2:47] >> I just happened to see some tables,

[2:48] that's why.

[2:50] the rendering. Yeah.

[2:53] >> Okay.

[2:53] >> Yeah. So, this would be a uh you know

[2:56] classified as a retail use under under

[2:58] our regulations then if it's not sit

[3:00] down. So, it's not a restaurant.

[3:01] Sometimes one or two tables are fine

[3:03] without having to change that use. But

[3:06] >> yeah.

[3:09] » And what else can you tell us about it?

[3:12] >> I mean, it's going to be different than

[3:15] other ones. I don't know if there's

[3:16] other ones here or not, but this is

[3:18] going to be like a New York style one.

[3:20] >> Yeah.

[3:20] >> So, it's going to be different foods.

[3:22] >> And when you say New York style, you

[3:23] mean Manhattan.

[3:25] >> Uh, we have one in the Bronze.

[3:28] >> Okay.

[3:29] That's still New York. Now, that

[3:30] to me that makes sense. Okay. Now, I was

[3:32] just wondering.

[3:33] >> Um, I like that idea. So, great. So,

[3:37] this is the lighting you're looking to

[3:38] do though, like uh uh down lighting,

[3:41] like just just fixtures on the small

[3:43] fixtures on the building. But the logo

[3:45] it might be from the inside. It's going

[3:47] to be a light box just for

[3:49] >> Okay. So you are gonna internally light

[3:52] the light. Okay.

[3:52] >> And those ones is going to be the lights

[3:54] from the outside.

[3:56] >> Okay. So you're not doing any other. So

[3:58] nothing nothing else on site for

[4:00] lighting except those just those uh wall packs essentially. Yeah. Okay. And

[4:05] internally lit sign.

[4:08] >> All right. What about the back of the

[4:10] building?

[4:12] Um,

[4:13] >> I mean in a lighting sense there

[4:15] security lighting. Is there

[4:17] >> ambient lighting for because there's a

[4:19] like a wall

[4:21] >> behind it? Like there's a back there's

[4:23] like a backyard. Yep.

[4:24] >> So is there like

[4:26] >> security lighting and

[4:28] >> probably going to have like a small

[4:29] >> because there's lighting in the parking

[4:30] lot.

[4:30] >> Yeah. Okay.

[4:31] >> Because I know the parking lot.

[4:32] >> Yeah. So you keep are you keep a

[4:34] dumpster a dumpster on the lot?

[4:35] >> I mean it's going to be the same one as

[4:37] Sassos.

[4:38] >> Oh, okay. So you're sharing you're

[4:39] sharing one with them. Okay. Oh, that's

[4:41] it. Solve that, right? You're sharing it

[4:43] or is it going to be bigger?

[4:44] >> No, he said we gonna I don't know if

[4:45] he's going to make it bigger, but he

[4:46] said we said he's going to be sharing. I

[4:48] think I don't know if he's going to get

[4:49] a bigger ones. I think maybe Matt.

[4:51] >> Yeah, for Matt.

[4:52] >> Yeah, because in the lease he said it's

[4:54] going to be like including the

[4:58] trash like yarding and everything on

[5:01] them.

[5:02] >> So, his dumpster's been there back

[5:04] hidden back there for I mean you can you

[5:06] is it noticeable to you?

[5:08] >> Right.

[5:08] >> Well, I know where it is.

[5:09] >> Yeah. Yeah. But in the sense that if

[5:11] it's going to have more of a food

[5:13] >> I mean I never see it but you you

[5:14] probably do.

[5:15] >> But there's a part of it is that he has

[5:17] a it's a food use

[5:19] >> also. Yeah. Yeah.

[5:21] >> And now there's going to be more. So I

[5:22] just wondered if it was going to be a

[5:24] >> a bigger one

[5:24] >> a larger or different capacity.

[5:27] >> Yeah.

[5:28] >> Good question. I I

[5:29] >> Do you want me to call Matt right now

[5:31] and see

[5:32] >> if you if you have him? I'm just curious

[5:35] because of animals. Are they going to size up the dumpsters

[5:38] or is it They've got plenty of room

[5:41] >> cuz there has been a rodent problem back

[5:44] there.

[5:44] >> Has been a rodent problem everywhere.

[5:46] >> Oh, what?

[5:46] >> Been getting a lot of a lot of rat

[5:48] complaints because of some demolition

[5:50] and stuff that's gone on.

[5:51] >> Well, yes, demolition uh on intentional

[5:55] and unintentional depending on the lot.

[5:57] >> No. Right.

[5:59] >> Well, I'm just curious too because we

[6:00] have a lot of young children.

[6:03] >> Just curious. It does. It's

[6:06] nothing more than just wondering.

[6:08] >> Just for the record, he's he's calling

[6:09] Matt Cypriano, the owner of the

[6:11] building.

[6:12] >> Hey, how are you, Matt?

[6:13] >> Good. Ke, how you doing?

[6:15] >> Good, good. I'm right now uh meeting

[6:16] with the town and they're having a

[6:19] question about the dumpster. They said,

[6:21] is it going to be bigger? Are you

[6:23] changing it to be bigger?

[6:25] >> Yeah, we're going to we're going to

[6:26] change the location so it's not directly

[6:28] behind your spot and we're they're going

[6:30] to be bigger and they're going to get

[6:32] emptied three times a week. Ah, so

[6:34] that's just going to be on the other

[6:35] side of the lot like behind your

[6:37] building. Is that is that going to be

[6:38] more of the location? This is This is

[6:39] Jeremy, city planner.

[6:41] >> Hey, Jeremy. How are you?

[6:42] >> Good. Good.

[6:44] >> So, they're going to be in the back left

[6:46] corner if you're at like the on the deck

[6:49] of Sassos in the back.

[6:51] >> Yeah,

[6:51] >> they're going to be in the back left

[6:53] corner basically on the other side of

[6:56] where the Warner's transformer is.

[6:58] >> Okay. Yeah. So, we're trying to just

[7:00] keep the dumpsters uh one centralized

[7:03] location uh easier for the pickups and I

[7:07] just don't want to have I don't want to

[7:09] have three four sets of dumpsters in

[7:11] this back.

[7:11] >> No, that makes sense. Is Is it going to

[7:13] be like a It's Is it kind of like

[7:14] against the retaining wall? Is that

[7:17] >> Yeah. Like um you you see where the uh

[7:21] see where it's all dug up back there?

[7:23] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[7:24] >> It's it's going to be back it's going to

[7:26] be back there like where that black is.

[7:28] So it'll be tucked way out of view of

[7:30] the street, but yeah. Okay.

[7:32] >> Yeah, it'll be I'm trying to keep that,

[7:34] you know, if you get any critters or

[7:36] anything like that, I don't want them

[7:37] near any of the buildings or the

[7:38] restaurant, you know.

[7:39] >> Sure. Yeah. Okay. Great.

[7:41] >> Okay.

[7:41] >> Yeah. Excellent. Yep.

[7:44] >> Perfect. Thank you. Y

[7:47] >> good question. Good answer.

[7:49] >> Yeah.

[7:49] >> That's great. Okay.

[7:52] >> Yep.

[7:53] >> So, it might not be out of your view,

[7:54] but it'll be out of the street view. No,

[7:56] my my thought was more of capacity.

[7:58] >> I mean, if you're on the if you're in

[8:00] the uh upstairs in the in the Nutmeg,

[8:02] you're you're going to be able to see

[8:03] it.

[8:04] >> No, I was just thinking of um animals.

[8:07] Believe it or not, there's even bears

[8:09] downtown.

[8:10] >> Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[8:11] >> We've had bears in the back of the

[8:12] parking lot and we actually somebody

[8:14] sent me a video of a bear walking past

[8:16] our building and the Warner theater.

[8:18] >> Yeah. Going in going into the in on the

[8:20] way to the cemetery in the back.

[8:22] >> Uh I think that's where he eventually

[8:24] went.

[8:24] >> Yeah. So we have bears and of course

[8:26] there's skunks, raccoons,

[8:28] >> right? Yeah.

[8:29] >> All of a sudden the wildlife is coming

[8:30] out.

[8:31] >> Yeah.

[8:32] >> So I just wonder but that's great. I

[8:33] mean to have more pickup too is is a

[8:37] very good idea. That's really good.

[8:39] >> Okay. Yeah. All right.

[8:42] Uh so what's your color scheme?

[8:44] Obviously it's brown.

[8:45] >> Brown and gold and bronze.

[8:49] >> Brown and black.

[8:50] So yeah, this is so the

[8:52] edge right here is going to be brown and

[8:54] this is black.

[8:55] >> Okay. And you have like gold letters and

[8:58] you said those are going to be

[8:59] backlight.

[9:00] >> Yeah, these ones are going to be

[9:02] backlight like this. Maybe like a light

[9:03] here but here

[9:06] only the logo is going to be with the

[9:08] light box light box.

[9:10] >> So these top lights are going to shine

[9:11] down in these letters from above.

[9:13] >> Yeah.

[9:14] >> Is that going to illuminate them to your

[9:16] satisfaction?

[9:17] >> Because the light is coming down. It's

[9:19] not in front of them.

[9:21] I mean there you can see the letters now

[9:23] because you pinched it.

[9:24] >> Yeah.

[9:24] >> I mean sometimes are these are these

[9:26] going to be a little bit projected off

[9:28] the building.

[9:29] >> So

[9:30] >> are they going to be right against the

[9:31] building?

[9:33] >> It's going to be he says it's going to

[9:35] come in half an inch flat.

[9:38] >> Yeah. So so I was going to say some

[9:40] sometimes just doing LEDs behind it they backlight it so you see the you see

[9:45] the outline of the just like around the

[9:48] letter behind. So, so the the lights are

[9:50] hidden, but it backlights the whole

[9:51] sign.

[9:52] >> Yep.

[9:52] >> So, so you see the outline of the of the

[9:54] sign.

[9:55] >> The guy on the who's going to do it when

[9:58] I called him, he said that they're

[10:02] shiny. So, when the light is on top,

[10:05] they're going to shine there.

[10:07] >> Okay. And but the the other logo is

[10:10] going to be going to be internally lit.

[10:11] Yeah. Okay.

[10:15] And it looks like there's lights

[10:17] underneath the roof socket.

[10:21] >> Yeah, that's there's lights under the

[10:23] socket of the roof.

[10:24] >> And if that's the case, as long as they

[10:25] recess, they they'll meet the

[10:27] >> eliminate the

[10:28] >> the cut the cut off uh requirements

[10:32] >> and you're using the same lights in the

[10:33] parking area.

[10:36] >> There's You don't have any freestanding

[10:38] lights or anything like that. It's all

[10:40] >> It's all just on the building. Well,

[10:42] there's parking in front of the building

[10:43] from the street,

[10:44] >> but aren't there lights?

[10:47] >> There's street lights. That's it.

[10:48] >> Yeah. Or not. Yeah, the the the side the

[10:51] city owned sidewalk lights.

[10:52] >> Okay. So, there's no lights on the

[10:53] property.

[10:54] >> No, no, not not right now. There's no

[10:56] poles.

[10:58] >> Yeah, it's just the It's just the um

[11:00] sidewalk lighting for the city

[11:02] >> that the city installed.

[11:04] >> That's sufficient lighting for you.

[11:07] >> Um we're not sure yet. We're not sure.

[11:10] we haven't seen at night like

[11:12] [clears throat]

[11:14] >> maybe like if we see it's not enough we

[11:16] could just

[11:17] >> so what are your what are your what are

[11:19] your proposed what are you doing for

[11:21] hours of operation

[11:22] >> hours

[11:24] >> probably 5

[11:26] to 10 or 11 12

[11:28] >> so so you're not it's so you're going to

[11:30] be closed overnight like overnight okay

[11:35] so in the winter you're going to have a

[11:37] lot of darkness in the summer you're

[11:39] going to be lighted

[11:40] most of the time. [clears throat]

[11:44] >> Yeah. [snorts]

[11:47] » Is there um

[11:50] a street number on the building the

[11:53] address?

[11:54] >> There's nothing but uh

[11:55] >> there is only seven.

[11:58] >> It's

[11:59] >> and the other five is

[12:01] >> one must have fallen off.

[12:02] >> Yes.

[12:03] >> Uh so we always Yeah. We always talk

[12:05] about the identifying

[12:07] >> and it's not only for fire, but it's

[12:10] sometimes for the ambulance.

[12:12] >> Okay.

[12:12] >> The the fire department probably is more

[12:14] aware of where buildings are.

[12:16] >> Yeah.

[12:16] >> But the ambulance in town um they're not

[12:19] always they don't live in Torington.

[12:22] >> So when they go to a location because we

[12:24] call the my business we call the the

[12:26] ambulance frequently. They appreciate an

[12:29] address so they they can look up where

[12:32] the building is.

[12:33] >> Yeah. Um because sometimes buildings

[12:36] have multiple doors in it or businesses

[12:38] in the same building. So it's just a

[12:41] good idea to have an identification in

[12:43] case there's

[12:44] >> um I mean somebody could have a heart

[12:46] attack.

[12:47] >> Yeah.

[12:47] >> Or fall, you know, something like that.

[12:50] >> So

[12:51] >> we're thinking to add the number like 57

[12:53] right here, but that's what what it is.

[12:57] >> Oh, that's where it is now.

[12:58] >> Yeah. I mean, if you guys want me to put

[12:59] it somewhere else, I can. I mean, we

[13:01] usually ask over the entrance or near

[13:03] the entrance, but

[13:04] >> is that a a transom or a light over the

[13:07] doorway? Is that a window above the

[13:09] door?

[13:10] >> No,

[13:10] >> the duria goes all the way up

[13:14] >> to the top. So, we can't We could just

[13:16] put it on top if you want. Like

[13:18] >> I mean, they could always do it on the

[13:19] glass, right?

[13:20] >> On the glass. Yeah.

[13:22] >> You said 57.

[13:23] >> Yeah, 57.

[13:23] >> So, say if you had

[13:26] 57 on the glass.

[13:28] >> Okay. And then you could see it even

[13:30] from the light from inside. You could

[13:32] still see the

[13:33] >> see the

[13:33] >> the light from behind would show 57.

[13:35] >> Yep.

[13:36] >> Okay.

[13:36] >> I mean that would be perfect. Big

[13:38] enough, you know.

[13:38] >> Yeah. Big enough.

[13:39] >> Large and black

[13:41] >> to match.

[13:42] >> Yeah.

[13:42] >> You could have larger because it's only

[13:44] the two numbers.

[13:44] >> Two numbers. Yeah.

[13:46] >> That wouldn't be bad.

[13:47] >> Yeah.

[13:48] >> If that's okay.

[13:48] >> Would you want you want it black or

[13:50] white?

[13:50] >> Well, I'm just thinking their theme is

[13:52] black. There's light behind it.

[13:54] >> Yeah. I'm just thinking about visibility

[13:56] >> during the day.

[13:57] >> Yeah. either in the day or at night with

[13:59] black or or black with with a white

[14:01] outline

[14:02] >> or gold or

[14:03] >> Yeah, gold seems to be their color.

[14:05] >> Yeah. Yeah, I think it' be great.

[14:08] >> Gold might actually look best.

[14:10] >> Yeah,

[14:10] >> I think I think black might kind of get

[14:12] a little hidden.

[14:14] >> Yeah, I hear that every time black.

[14:16] >> Yeah,

[14:17] >> gold would be Yeah,

[14:18] >> pretty good.

[14:19] >> And it'll match your theme.

[14:21] >> Okay.

[14:21] >> Yeah.

[14:23] >> A plastic five and a plastic seven.

[14:26] But um

[14:30] >> I mean I uh what I what I'll know is I

[14:32] sent it out for for review from a couple

[14:35] of couple of folks and Mark McCarron did

[14:38] not he just approved without commenting.

[14:40] So he must not have had a lot of

[14:41] concerns about about the theme here. So

[14:45] >> well

[14:45] >> he would have said so if he did

[14:46] >> he would have he would have um given

[14:49] that this was a gas station.

[14:52] >> Yep.

[14:53] >> You know

[14:54] >> and then the tax office. I mean, even

[14:56] going back further, it was a horse

[14:57] stable.

[14:58] >> Oh.

[14:59] >> So, and it was part of what was a hotel

[15:02] on the corner many, many, many years

[15:04] ago. So, this building has often been um

[15:10] like a service building

[15:12] >> in its lifetime.

[15:13] >> Yeah.

[15:14] >> Well, that's great.

[15:15] >> So, who we're talking about is the

[15:17] director of the historical society. We

[15:20] always refer the the you know the

[15:24] especially in downtown the architectural

[15:26] review um packages to him and uh you

[15:30] know he often comments but he but he

[15:32] just hit approve in our system without

[15:34] commenting on this. What do

[15:34] >> you think? It well you know it it blends

[15:37] in. It's it's a handsome

[15:40] >> renovation. [clears throat]

[15:41] >> It's it's very attractive. Um, the

[15:44] building next to you is uh trimmed in

[15:47] black and brick, you know, so it it

[15:51] looks nice as well. Um,

[15:55] and the other comments were from Nate.

[15:57] Um, you know, he just commented on

[16:00] lighting. He said there are flood lights

[16:01] on the building that'll need to be taken

[16:04] off because they're not compliant. Yeah,

[16:05] >> they they have to be full cut offs. So

[16:07] the so the existing flood lights would

[16:09] need to be removed. um signage. He'll,

[16:13] you know, you'll you'll go through a

[16:15] whole signage package with with us and

[16:17] with and or with me uh for the for the

[16:20] site plan approval and with with Nate.

[16:22] You'll pull you'll pull the actual sign

[16:24] permits when it's time to install all

[16:25] the signs.

[16:26] >> Yep.

[16:26] >> Um and he'll go over all you know it

[16:31] some sometimes it depends on what you

[16:33] do, but sometimes all the if you put

[16:34] stuff in the windows, they have to be

[16:36] approved as signs and things like that.

[16:38] But just depends. You'll you'll you can

[16:40] chat with Nate with what you want to do.

[16:42] >> Okay.

[16:42] >> Uh for signage, um if you put any

[16:46] lighted signage in the windows, it has

[16:48] to be static. So if you put like an open

[16:50] sign in the window, it can't flash or

[16:52] blink.

[16:52] >> Okay.

[16:53] >> Uh

[16:53] >> and nothing traveling.

[16:55] >> Yeah. No scrolling scrolling signs.

[16:58] >> Yep.

[16:59] >> All right.

[17:00] >> And then uh his his only other question

[17:02] was any landscaping proposed because

[17:04] it's kind of barren in the front for

[17:06] landscaping. We're thinking to put like

[17:08] some palm flowers, but

[17:09] >> planter boxes, stuff like that. Yeah,

[17:11] just to dress things up cuz you'd have

[17:13] to tear up the asphalt to put anything

[17:14] else in.

[17:15] >> Yeah,

[17:15] >> but um Yeah, it was just kind of parking

[17:18] lot between there and the street.

[17:19] >> Yeah. No, there's there's only black

[17:22] top.

[17:22] >> Yeah.

[17:23] >> Between the sidewalk and your and the

[17:24] store.

[17:25] >> Yeah,

[17:25] >> planters would be nice. Anything to

[17:27] dress it up would be would be fantastic

[17:29] because we're not, you know, we're not

[17:30] going to make you rip up asphalt for if

[17:33] you were if you were redoing the whole

[17:34] site then we' we'd have you put some

[17:37] grass in or something, but you're not

[17:38] all you're doing is changing the use of

[17:40] the building. So,

[17:41] >> you know, and anything uh anything you

[17:44] could do to dress the site up would be

[17:46] great.

[17:48] >> Deliveries coming through the front

[17:49] door.

[17:50] >> I mean, for product

[17:52] >> or from from the back.

[17:54] >> Oh, the Okay.

[17:55] >> There's a back door. Well, I know

[17:56] there's a back area, but there's a back

[17:58] door.

[17:58] >> I mean, I have It has a garage door in

[18:01] the back.

[18:02] >> Oh, for

[18:03] >> Well, because it was a garage.

[18:04] >> Yeah. So,

[18:05] >> yeah,

[18:05] >> right here there's a roller door which

[18:09] goes to the back. We were We'll have

[18:11] like all the inventory extras here.

[18:15] >> And there's already room for a truck to

[18:16] swing around the back side of the

[18:18] building.

[18:18] >> I think there is. Yeah.

[18:19] >> All the way. All the way around.

[18:21] >> I think it's enclosed. I think when you

[18:24] look at it this way, the the opening is

[18:26] on this side. I don't think this side is

[18:28] opening. It's like a wall.

[18:29] >> Yeah. So, you'd have the truck the truck

[18:31] would have to back up

[18:33] >> tight here. So, there can't be a car

[18:35] going through. It can, but it'll be

[18:36] tight. But, we usually just go around.

[18:39] >> You're you're probably just getting, you

[18:40] know, box truck deliveries or something

[18:43] like that, too. Like, Yeah.

[18:45] >> Yeah. Your typical like your Coca-Cola

[18:47] truck drives through to refill.

[18:49] >> Yeah.

[18:51] Yep. There's there's space on this on

[18:53] this property even even out in front of

[18:54] the building for deliveries.

[18:56] >> Oh, we even have trailers.

[18:58] >> Yeah.

[18:59] >> So,

[18:59] >> Yep.

[19:00] >> And then the um the flow of the traffic,

[19:03] you enter over here and you go around

[19:05] this way.

[19:05] >> Yeah.

[19:10] » Um

[19:13] >> signage, address, lighting.

[19:14] >> Yep.

[19:14] >> Anything else?

[19:16] >> I mean, look, we're not looking really

[19:18] at landscaping and site design. you go

[19:20] are you going to remark the parking on

[19:22] the property

[19:24] >> cuz it's all faded?

[19:25] >> Yeah, probably.

[19:26] >> Just so when you re just when you remark

[19:28] it, I don't I don't remember seeing a a

[19:31] compliant um park uh ADA parking space

[19:34] there.

[19:34] >> So, you got to make sure you just got to

[19:36] make sure you do the handicap.

[19:38] >> Yeah. Yeah. The handicap parking space.

[19:39] You just have to make sure it's a van

[19:41] accessible space. So, it's a little bit

[19:42] wider.

[19:43] >> Okay.

[19:43] >> Uh it's it's 16 ft wide, 8 ft of

[19:46] striping.

[19:46] >> Okay.

[19:47] >> And and the right signage.

[19:48] >> Okay. Yeah. So, so beyond that, the park

[19:51] the parking is kind of pre-existing. So,

[19:53] we're not going to get too um picky

[19:55] about the parking. It's the ADA space

[19:57] cuz that kind of goes above our heads.

[19:59] >> Yeah.

[20:00] >> You know, the the like, you know, ADA

[20:03] laws and things like that. So,

[20:05] >> um so I mean, as long as that space is

[20:09] installed properly, I think we're fine

[20:11] installed and marked and all that. Yeah.

[20:15] Um, other than that, the aesthetic part

[20:18] we've I think we've covered.

[20:20] >> No, I think

[20:20] >> the transitions, the the the aesthetics.

[20:23] Yeah.

[20:25] >> Yeah.

[20:25] >> It looks nice at night.

[20:27] >> Yeah,

[20:28] >> I'm sure it'll look okay in the daytime.

[20:32] >> Any other points of interest?

[20:33] >> I don't think so. We're not There's no

[20:35] other changes to the building besides

[20:37] the the, you know, siding and lighting

[20:40] and signage and all that stuff. So,

[20:44] It's a nice idea. What made you come to

[20:46] Toronto?

[20:47] >> I mean, we live in Oid since 2017 or 16.

[20:52] >> I grew up.

[20:53] >> We come here a lot. We like We get a lot

[20:55] of things here done. A lot.

[20:56] >> I mean, I've we came to as soon as we

[21:00] came here and we went to Gilbert High

[21:02] School.

[21:02] >> Yeah, we did. I did, too.

[21:03] >> Yeah.

[21:03] >> Really? Yeah.

[21:05] >> Re recent grads or

[21:08] >> recent grads?

[21:10] >> What did you When did you graduate?

[21:12] >> Me? Um 22 or 21.

[21:15] >> 21. Yeah.

[21:17] >> I I graduated in CO.

[21:19] >> Oh. Oh, great.

[21:21] >> So, it was like in the cars

[21:23] >> class of 1993.

[21:26] >> Oh my gosh. Yeah. Co ru so many things.

[21:28] >> Yeah. That was like

[21:30] >> Yeah.

[21:31] >> We also had this same idea in Winston,

[21:34] but we closed it.

[21:36] >> Okay.

[21:36] >> Oh, did you start one in Winston?

[21:38] >> Yeah.

[21:38] >> And it was like in a bad spot. Oh. So,

[21:41] >> well, you got you got a good spot here.

[21:43] You're going to get, you know, you're

[21:45] going to get a good amount of foot

[21:47] traffic, especially on show nights.

[21:48] >> Honestly, this one, we've been looking

[21:50] at this spot for like two years. Put

[21:52] paper in there. Nobody answered. I've

[21:54] been calling. I've been texting.

[21:56] Nobody's answering.

[21:57] >> Well, it's been in ownership flux.

[21:59] >> Yeah. Okay.

[21:59] >> For some time.

[22:00] >> Matt uh only bought it not that long

[22:03] ago, I think.

[22:04] >> Was it?

[22:05] >> Less than a year ago. Yeah.

[22:07] >> Yep.

[22:08] >> Yeah. We've watched that since it was

[22:10] Liberty Tax and enclosed,

[22:12] >> it's been empty.

[22:14] >> Yeah.

[22:14] >> Uh and the Roves,

[22:17] they went just back and forth with what

[22:19] to do with the properties, etc. Um and

[22:22] there were just options of what to who

[22:25] was going to buy what.

[22:27] >> Yep.

[22:28] >> So, um because we even looked at it, but

[22:31] it was anything we could use because we

[22:34] like I said, we're we're the nutmeg back

[22:36] here.

[22:36] >> Yeah. Our kids will be coming to you for food, I'm sure.

[22:42] >> Yep. Do you deliver?

[22:43] >> We're gonna have Door Dash and we're

[22:45] gonna try to get Door Dash and

[22:46] >> That's very popular.

[22:48] >> Get it right now.

[22:49] >> And and as much again, okay, New York

[22:51] Deli, I get it.

[22:53] >> What might be a specialty that you are

[22:56] going to bring that's different than any

[22:58] other deli?

[22:59] So the I mean the deli is going to be

[23:02] different because we have smoothies like

[23:04] we make smoothies right next to it fresh

[23:07] with fruits and everything even though

[23:09] we have like protein shake uh protein

[23:12] >> juice with it.

[23:13] >> Sure. Yeah.

[23:13] >> We have like different foods that I

[23:16] never seen here.

[23:17] >> Like you have the chopped cheese,

[23:20] >> the steak and cheese, the New York

[23:21] style, the you have the quesadilla.

[23:24] >> Yeah.

[23:24] >> And there's like a lot of them. Like

[23:28] >> we're also going to have like salad bar

[23:30] where you come pick wherever.

[23:33] >> Oh, good. Thank you. I have a good tail

[23:35] bar.

[23:35] >> Nice.

[23:36] >> That's what we have there. So, we want

[23:38] to bring it here.

[23:39] >> And you're in walking distance to city

[23:40] hall, so you have to impress people

[23:41] here, too.

[23:43] >> Well, you walk through the park.

[23:44] >> Yeah, exactly. That's usually what I do

[23:46] is just cut straight through.

[23:47] >> Exactly. Yeah, that's fine.

[23:50] >> Yeah. Um

[23:52] uh you got anything, Austin?

[23:55] No, I like the sound way it sounds,

[23:56] guys.

[23:57] >> Yeah, good.

[23:58] >> Austin, would you like to make a motion?

[24:01] >> I'll make a motion.

[24:04] >> Okay. To accept

[24:05] >> to recommend to recommend uh or make

[24:07] positive recommendations on the on the

[24:10] project. Yeah,

[24:14] >> I think that was a yes.

[24:15] >> That was a yes. [laughter]

[24:17] >> Well, I think

[24:18] >> I will I will second.

[24:20] >> Yes. With um we talked about the

[24:21] address, the lighting. I think we hit

[24:23] all the points that we needed to in that

[24:25] motion.

[24:25] >> Yep.

[24:26] >> Okay. Very good.

[24:28] >> Um and all in favor

[24:30] >> I very nice.

[24:32] >> I

[24:32] >> Congratulations.

[24:33] >> Thanks, guys. It's very sweet.

[24:35] >> Um All right. So, I'll catch up with you

[24:37] after we kind of do what we have to do

[24:39] with all this.

[24:40] >> And you know, I had the question about

[24:41] when I came earlier about the the design

[24:45] that we're changing the fridge.

[24:47] >> So, what we're trying to do is just swap

[24:50] this with that. Oh, yeah. Uh, so that's

[24:53] This doesn't already exist, right? Oh,

[24:55] sorry. Um, hold on. Let's do this. Um,

[24:58] motion to close. I'll make a motion to

[25:00] close.

[25:00] >> Oh, yes. Sorry. All in favor? I I We're

[25:03] journ Thanks, Austin.

[25:05] >> Yep. Take care, guys. Yeah, you too.

[25:09] Hang on one sec.

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