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Good morning everyone. Welcome to our
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special city council meeting. This
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meeting is a goal setting meeting and um
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the Hillsboro City Council meeting is
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now called to order. Um city clerk, may
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we please have the roll call.
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>> Thank you. Mayor Cole Adams present
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Kwick
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>> present.
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>> Ragdale present. Cole
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>> present.
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>> Thank you.
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Um this me meeting um will be conducted
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and at least the presentation will be
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from uh city manager Doug Davis and
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assistant city manager Mandy Brown where
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they will be outlining our goal setting
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and work plan going forward for fiscal
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year 20 um 26 27 with a review of 202526
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goals and status. I will now um turn it
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over to our city manager Doug Davis.
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>> Thank you madame mayor and good morning
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everyone. Um, as you said, we're going
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to be looking at our goal setting
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sessions. And good morning to staff.
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Thanks for all the hard work you put
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into this. And for the people in
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attendance, Dr. Weineberg, thanks for
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being here. Uh, so we're going to go,
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this was a structure meeting where we're
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going to go over the previous goals of
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the uh, last fiscal year and give you an
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update as to kind of where we're at with
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that. That should be fairly quick and
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that'll be done by our department heads
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as they go through their individual
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goals. And then the second part of the
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meeting will be to set the goals for the
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following fiscal year. Some of these
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will be carryovers as they're things
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that are multi-year programs and then
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others will be new ones as well. It is
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fairly structured in its format in the
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way we have it here. But I don't want
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that to take away from the creativity.
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It's just a structure for us to move
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forward. The goal here is to capture
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everything that we kind of want to do in
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the following year and the updates and
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then to move forward. And so with that,
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Mandy will start taking us through the
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slides and we'll have our department
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heads report out.
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>> Thank you. Um yes, as he said, it it is
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very structured in how it's presented,
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but um as we go through, especially the
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previous year's goals and updates, feel
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free to ask questions during um to add
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clarity and department heads and staff
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can um can answer as we go along rather
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than waiting to the end. um if that
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serves the council well.
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So just the agenda which uh city manager
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Doug Davis already went through.
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Um revisiting the goals that were agreed
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upon last year just at a high level have
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these listed on these first two slides.
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We're going to walk through each one
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briefly just to say uh where we're at.
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Many of these will carry over to this
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year um when you look at the list of
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proposed goals, but it does give a
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status update um of where we are.
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So the first one was to improve
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community's emergency preparedness and
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resiliency efforts um with the major
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projects listed in that first column. Uh
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the townwide chipping program which as
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you know the town does in partnership
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with Firewise um thanks to Dr. David
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Weineberg. And so a status of the last
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chipping program um over a thousand
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homes and 41 participants uh traffic
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control provided by public works this
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time which was a huge help. So big
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thanks to public works um and we were
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able to secure a grant actually through
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the state um funded by our uh tied to
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our SP 1383 requirements. Uh so this
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shipping program was entirely grant-f
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funded this past year. Um and so not
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missing a beat, Dr. Weineberg is already
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working on the next shipping program for
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June 2026.
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The next goal was to provide support to
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H&N to enhance emergency preparedness.
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So they completed their H&N strategic
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plan with uh community engagement and
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working with CCFD closely. So the next
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step will be to implement that
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three-year strategic plan. Um and I
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don't know if um anyone wants to add
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anything to that. Um any other details?
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Council member Chwang or William?
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>> In progress.
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Great. Um next one is to
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reduce risk and impacts caused by power
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outages. U we do have a new PG& rep. So
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the town has been working closely with
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her um to establish communication
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methods and make sure that the town is
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uh kept apprised of outages. Uh how we
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can bring that forward to our residents
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and make the tools for power outages
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more available. and when they know when
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their power is coming back on. And we
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have been speaking with her recently
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about doing a study session um just to
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give some additional information on
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their processes. Um we also have been
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working with them, this is more recent,
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on the tree trimming that they do in
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town. Um and we're reworking, they're
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going to let us know in advance before
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they come in and do some of the tree
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trimming so that we can share that
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information with public works. um and so
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we know when they're going to be here um
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because sometimes they will leave
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certain limbs around um so that we're
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aware of of what the work that they're
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doing.
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>> You're the mayor.
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>> Yes.
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>> Could I just ask um so this morning the
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biggest news is uh San Francisco is
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looking into partways with PG&E. I
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wonder if that kind of a conversation
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are the staff following up on sort of
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the process or if uh PCE is uh also
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looking into um just what what that
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formation is going to look like um going
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forward. J
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>> I know it's been discussed um and I
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there was an article I think in the SF
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standard with uh uh I believe it was u
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Mr. Weiner who has sponsored the bill to
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do that. So it has to go through the CPU
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and go through an eminent domain
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procedure. But something that I know
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that the SFPUC has been approached in
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the past to take over for electrical
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services in San Francisco and to provide
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an alternate option to San Franciscans.
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Um has been discussed potentially in the
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peninsula. I'm not sure if the city
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managers association uh will take that
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or if there will be somebody that also
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sponsors something. Similarly, at the um
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public works director's uh meetings and
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the city engineers meetings, we have
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requested meeting with somebody and
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higher up with Peny because uh not just
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our community but all the other
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communities in the peninsula have had
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the problem with Peny cutting trees and
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uh leaving the debris at the side of the
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road which is a fire hazard and a hazard
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for vermin. But uh there's just a really
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a poor lack of communication and Piny
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and the reps have chosen to not
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communicate with any of the cities. So
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we're going to be a little more formal
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as a group of all the cities of public
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works directors to try again to reach
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out to Peny's leadership to see if
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they'll even talk to us because as you
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know our previous even government
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liaison uh has left Pug Gugen so there's
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also a void and some communication
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between the groups.
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Yeah, I I I think that is worth uh
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looking into just follow up to make sure
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that we're you know because we our
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residents also experienced you know
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challenges with BG&'s um blackouts um
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and the lack of notices and the the
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delay in you know reservicing the
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electricity. So I do think that this is
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something um of interest that we should
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follow up and and and see what that is.
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Yes, you may continue. Thank you.
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>> Thank you.
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Council Member Schwan.
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>> And then the uh next project was the
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wildfire preparedness building code
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amendments for council considerations.
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So, we did have the study session to
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discuss potential code modifications.
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I've been engaged with Firewise on their
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input and recommendations.
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Um right now staff is working to bring
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something forward um for additional
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council consideration and integrating it
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with some of our other plans, the safety
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element, um the vulnerability assessment
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which you'll see more in the uh the next
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year's goals. Um but theformational
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update scheduled for April um on this
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and then educational materials are
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already being circulated and you'll
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you've seen some in the bill inserts.
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there will be another bill message with
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educational um materials and
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recommendations on things you can do
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voluntarily um in your next um solid
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waste bill. So, this is ongoing unless
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staff wants to add anything.
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» Um I just have a clarifying question. Um
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Council Member Adams also has a
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question. You may go. You may
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>> Thank you. I just want to go back. I
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think we skipped number four in
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discussion. So, we'll come back.
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>> I'm sorry. That was a big one, too.
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um improve access to wireless service.
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Yes, as you know, we had the community
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meeting to solicit feedback and that
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helped inform the scope for a
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telecommunication needs assessment RFP
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which is out now. Um so it's been posted
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and been circulated to uh qualified
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firms and so we hope to have that uh
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closed and someone on board in the next
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month.
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>> Thank you. Um my question on item five,
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the wildfire preparedness and the code
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um amendments. Is that going to be part
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of a discussion in a city council
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meeting or is it a study session? What
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are you anticipating in terms of the
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format of that?
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Uh yes, there will be a discussion on
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how we'll approach that and what the
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sequencing will be based on uh sorry
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assembly uh AB130
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an interpretation of how we'll integrate
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any upgrades to the code.
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>> So it would actually be part of a city
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council public session discussion,
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public hearing discussion, not a special
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part of the discussion in April.
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>> Okay. Thank you.
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Yes, Mandy, you may proceed.
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>> And then the next um goal is largely uh
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billing and planning. So I will pass it
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off to um Tim Anderson and Liz Ree to go
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through this slide
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clerk multifamily housing. U right now
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we've initiated finished phase one and
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um are moving on to initiating phase
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two. Could you move it closer? We can't
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quite hear you.
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>> Sorry.
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>> Tobin Clark, uh, multif family housing
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site. Uh, we've engaged with management
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services and completed phase one. Uh,
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moving on to phase two at this time. And
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same with town hall complex. Uh, phase
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one, uh, initial study looking at
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placement and needs. Moving on to master
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plan development phase two.
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Sorry.
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» For number three is the accessory
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dwelling unit ADU program. Um we're
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excited that we exceeded the housing
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element um promise for this last year in
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terms of ADU permitting. Our goal was 50
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a year. We were at 58. And um we
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developed an ADU informational interview
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and video series. Those videos are going
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to be up on our website
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soon. And we also linked in a digital
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ADU rental questionnaire. You'll hear
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more about this in at the next city
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council meeting um when I'm presenting
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our annual progress report and our ADU
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ordinance update. Um, but the next steps
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on those are again at the next city
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council meeting, we'll have an update to
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that ADU ordinance. And one of our
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planned uh programs is in our
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partnership with hip housing to continue
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to promote our ADU rentals and matching
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program is in the next couple months to
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hold an ADU mixer here at town hall for
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those who have an ADU or may be
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interested in in in building an ADU and
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have any interest in in rentals. Number
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four is to continue to implement the
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programs and fees related to our housing
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element. One of the items that you've
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heard me discuss several times before
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the council is our affordable housing
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impact fee and that includes also
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exploring any type of inclusionary and
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loo fee pathways. And that is um it's
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similar to an impact fee that would be
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assessed on
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uh new single family um residential
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construction and those fees would be uh
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set aside to subsidize
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affordable deed restricted units and
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that could be for ADUs or there' be
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other opportunities for the town to use
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that funding.
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In related to that, we are working with
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several other similar jurisdictions that
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had similar housing element programs in
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their housing elements um specifically
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Portola Valley, Athetherton, and
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Woodside to partner with them to do a
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nexus study because we all need the same
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data to justify the same impact fees.
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So, that's something that we're working
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on with those jurisdictions to initiate
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that nexus study.
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And then we also have a consultant um
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that we've initiated work with to
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develop our objective design standards.
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This is something that um is
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statemandated and we've been talking
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about for a while. So we're excited to
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get that um program launched. The next
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phase of that is that we'll have a city
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council study session to review those um
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the results of that nexus study and any
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proposed fees and then also to we'll
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have several phases of community
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engagement. um presenting any proposed
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objective design standards to the ADRB
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as well as the community and the city
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council.
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>> Um I have a Yeah, go ahead. Um Vice
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Mayor Rexdale.
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>> Um uh first of all, thank you all for
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coming here so early in the morning and
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being so incredibly organized. Um I had
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just one um uh request for the uh a in
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preparation for the ADU mixer. My
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understanding is that the application
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through hip housing and we have talked
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to them about it um is a little more
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detailed than is needed if someone is in
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a separate building. It talks about your
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cooking habits and sleep and wake habits
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and those kind of things. Um so I was
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wondering if that's something maybe we
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could talk to them about before that mix
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or if someone's in a separate building
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maybe that could be um simplified a
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little bit so we don't scare people
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away. Sure. And um I know that this has
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come up previously and we've staff has
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spoken with Hip Housing about that
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before as well. And none of those
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questions are mandatory. It's part of
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their effort to create really compatible
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living together agreements so that if
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somebody has um a particular preference
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that perhaps isn't a top of mind, but
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they see it in the application, it may
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occur to them that that would be a deal
[15:08]
breakaker that they weren't aware of.
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So, uh, they're not mandatory from what
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I understand from my conversation with
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hip housing, but absolutely that's
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something that we can talk with them
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about before that mixer so that they
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come um with options.
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>> Thank you. Yeah, maybe making them
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really obvious that they're not
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mandatory instead of a tiny little
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asterisk or or whatever it is. And um
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through the mayor, uh, Council Member
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Adams had a question to you.
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>> Yes, Council Member Adams.
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>> I just want to follow up. I've also
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heard about this and I think we need to
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condition uh having the application be
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more applicable first to ADUs but also
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to Hillsboro residents and that would be
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a condition of the mixer and also of
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some of the support we give to them
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because I don't think they've been
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responsive in a productive way.
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>> Sure. I think that's reasonable and we
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have an expanded relationship with them
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outside of just the standard um match
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program. So, I think it's reasonable
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that we could request um a bit more
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customization.
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>> I also council member Schwang, do you
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have a question?
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>> Yeah, mayor. Thank you so much. Um this
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question is actually for Tim. Thank you
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so much for the updates and I want to
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thank um our ad hoc committees for both
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uh the Tobin Clark and also for the town
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hall. Um when you mentioned that the
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next step is the master plan development
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what does that mean and what is the
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expectations of uh this coming year you
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know whether it's at the council level
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or is it going to be a public outreach I
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just want to have a clarity because last
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year it was relatively quiet and I know
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the ad hoc committees have been working
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hard uh behind the scenes but you know
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at the end of the day is the council
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um need to receive the presentation. So
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what is the process?
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» Sorry, not to steal it from him.
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Um are you asking about both Tobin Clark
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and town hall or one specifically?
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>> Well, I I'm mo interested in both
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because we haven't heard much about uh
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either. Sure. uh at least you know from
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the public perspectives or on the
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council and so um I I was just wondering
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when you said the next step that is the
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uh what is this the master plan
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development what does that mean?
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>> Sure.
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>> Is it very is seems very broad.
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>> Yes it is. Um so so both are I mean
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they're quite different from each other
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in terms of context but the initial
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phase for both of these phase one is so
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much behind the scenes work
[17:50]
understanding access understanding
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limitations in terms of utilities
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understanding what can actually be done
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there in terms of site constraints um
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both for Tobin Clark and for town hall uh that process started
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more uh earlier than Tobin Clark and um
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but is not necessarily less complicated.
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I know at the last presentation to city
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council, we brought back some of the
[18:16]
assumptions that had been discussed in
[18:18]
the subcommittee meeting that included
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eliminating um CCFD from the program and
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that had originally been a really large
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portion of the program. So, um
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eliminating that just because the needs
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couldn't be met and CCFD has um an
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alternative uh that really changed what
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could be considered on the site as well
[18:38]
as exploring opportunities to um annex
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and potentially expand the footprint of
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the site. So, when we talk about a
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master plan, what's what's going into
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that is test fitting the site. So
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looking at what are the necessary
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elements of the program, what are some
[18:56]
of the um the bonus elements of the
[18:58]
program that could be accommodated here
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but may not necessarily be a set
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requirement. So all of that work is
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continuing to go on. Um and our plan is
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to bring back I think for both of the
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subcommittees um certainly for town hall
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complex in the next um in the next
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months in the in the near future to
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bring back a subcommittee update to the
[19:18]
full city council about what has been
[19:21]
done to date and sort of what the next
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steps are. The master plan um
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specifically for town hall is looking at
[19:28]
where the buildings would be located,
[19:30]
what um what work is necessary to
[19:33]
accommodate the utilities and the
[19:36]
construction needs, what the parking
[19:38]
configuration would be. I know that in
[19:40]
the past we talked a lot about the
[19:42]
parking constraints just due to the
[19:44]
site, the size of the site and whether
[19:46]
or not underground parking would be
[19:48]
required, but there are um trade-offs
[19:50]
with that versus above ground versus
[19:52]
annexation, which would expand the
[19:54]
footprint and potentially address the
[19:56]
needs to go or uh eliminate the need to
[19:58]
go uh below grade or above grade. So,
[20:00]
it's all of those considerations. The
[20:03]
master plan development is uh which is
[20:06]
the phase two which is the next step is
[20:09]
really saying this is where things
[20:10]
should be. This is what the program can
[20:13]
be. These are the estimated costs
[20:16]
associated with that and then moving
[20:18]
forward with really robust community
[20:19]
engagement and understanding um all of
[20:23]
the moving uh pieces that go into those
[20:26]
elements of the program. So through the
[20:29]
mayor, uh just to follow up, uh I I
[20:31]
think that you know to the city manager
[20:32]
and to the staff, this is critical
[20:35]
because the housing cycle is important
[20:37]
for us to meet the standards. Um but by
[20:39]
the same tokens I think that you know uh
[20:42]
it's a very passionate shall we say uh
[20:46]
subject matters for our uh town
[20:49]
residents and and so I I think that you
[20:52]
know um while we were talking about the
[20:54]
master plans I think that the regular
[20:56]
updates going forward would be really helpful because
[21:01]
the pathway while the ad hoc committees
[21:04]
are passionate about it and and grateful
[21:06]
for for their dedications it at the end
[21:08]
of the day is the full council who's
[21:10]
going to be uh you know making the
[21:12]
decisions on this and we need to
[21:14]
incorporate and bring the public along
[21:17]
the way in terms of where we're looking
[21:19]
at those things and so um I I do hope
[21:22]
that coming forward we'll we'll have a
[21:25]
much more robust and regular update so
[21:28]
that we know uh the full council and the
[21:31]
public know where we're at the town in
[21:34]
terms of all this progress that we're
[21:37]
Thank you.
[21:39]
>> Um, thank you. I also have some
[21:41]
follow-up questions. Um, going back to
[21:44]
um, well, first let me just make a few
[21:46]
comments that may address some of um,
[21:49]
the issues um, council member Trang
[21:51]
brought up um, the ad hoc committee for
[21:54]
the Tobin Clark. um very involved in
[21:56]
that with um council member Adams and
[21:58]
the consulting teams and we are hoping
[22:02]
to transition from an ad hoc to a sub a
[22:04]
regular standing subcommittee which will
[22:06]
do regular briefings to the city council
[22:09]
um in the very near future. We are about
[22:11]
to enter uh conversations with CSM and
[22:14]
those conversations cannot be open to
[22:16]
the public at this stage and that's why
[22:18]
it remains an ad hoc. After that, we
[22:21]
will transition and we'll be doing
[22:22]
regular briefings to the city council.
[22:24]
So, thanks for bringing that up and
[22:26]
that's noted. Um, regarding the fees,
[22:29]
the affordable housing impact fees, how what are the general parameters? How
[22:35]
are those calculated? I mean, in
[22:37]
general, not exact numbers, but what are
[22:39]
the thoughts or criteria behind how they
[22:42]
established?
[22:43]
>> Sure. So, uh, that will be determined
[22:46]
through this nexus study that we want to
[22:48]
do in partnership with other similar
[22:49]
jurisdictions because, um, you know,
[22:53]
similar to, uh, our community, those
[22:55]
jurisdictions don't have the same impact
[22:58]
fees that larger jurisdictions that have
[23:00]
more commercial and hotels have. So,
[23:03]
establishing a fee that is specifically
[23:05]
tied to the development of above market
[23:09]
rate single family residential
[23:11]
requires a unique set of data. So, we
[23:13]
haven't determined what that fee would
[23:15]
be um or exactly what the um uh trigger
[23:20]
would be. Uh the initial thought is that
[23:23]
it would be a fee that's a minor
[23:26]
percentage similar to our other impact
[23:28]
fees like we have a school impact fee,
[23:29]
construction, uh road impact fees that
[23:32]
are assessed on new construction that
[23:35]
this fee would be similarly assessed to
[23:37]
those projects. I think the initial
[23:39]
threshold is um new single family above
[23:44]
market rate construction. So if somebody
[23:46]
does a demolition and rebuild or if it's
[23:48]
a vacant lot and they're being building
[23:49]
a new house, this fee would be assessed
[23:52]
on that so that those funds could be
[23:54]
earmarked to go towards this um what
[23:57]
we're calling right now a housing choice
[23:58]
fund. And those funds would be available
[24:01]
to subsidize units that were being
[24:03]
developed with a deed restriction. So if
[24:05]
they're guaranteed at a below market
[24:07]
rate level, there would be a way for
[24:10]
them to qualify for that subsidy. And so
[24:12]
determining what that fee is and also
[24:14]
what the appropriate way to distribute
[24:17]
those funds equitably, it would be part
[24:21]
of the nexus study
[24:23]
>> and and that is a consulting a
[24:25]
consultant who would be advising you in
[24:27]
terms of how to calculate those impact
[24:29]
fees.
[24:30]
>> Correct. And our hope with partnering
[24:32]
with Pullola Valley and other similar
[24:34]
communities is one there's a cost
[24:36]
sharing. Um we need to develop the same
[24:38]
data. Um and
[24:42]
if we're using the same data in a
[24:44]
similar way it makes it makes it easier
[24:48]
to assess those fees if there's um you
[24:51]
know if if it's similar to how other
[24:53]
jurisdictions are doing it.
[24:54]
>> And and the reason I'm asking this
[24:56]
question is because we don't have any
[24:57]
commercial activities.
[24:59]
>> Correct.
[24:59]
>> Currently. So who are we going to be
[25:02]
comparing with ourselves to would be I
[25:04]
assume but most of the other communities
[25:07]
except for maybe ain but even Woodside
[25:09]
has some commercial
[25:10]
>> correct
[25:10]
>> I don't think ain has any
[25:12]
>> so
[25:13]
>> right
[25:14]
>> you know because we don't want to be in
[25:16]
a situation where later on someone would
[25:17]
say well why are you comparing
[25:19]
yourselves to other communities that
[25:21]
have commercial activities and the
[25:22]
impact fees there would be different
[25:24]
>> yes
[25:25]
>> so we'll have to select communities that
[25:26]
are very similar to ours correct
[25:29]
>> absolutely Okay. Y
[25:30]
>> and also regarding the design standards,
[25:33]
you said we already have a consultant
[25:35]
that's going to help us design that or
[25:37]
come up with a plan on that. Is that
[25:39]
>> Yes. So we have a consultant on board.
[25:41]
It's good city company. We've worked
[25:42]
with them before on um several projects.
[25:45]
So they're very familiar with um our
[25:48]
municipal code and the um character of
[25:53]
the community. And so they are working
[25:56]
with us to review our existing design
[26:00]
standards to determine if any of them
[26:02]
and some of them are are already
[26:04]
objective or if they could be tweaked to
[26:07]
read as more objective as they currently
[26:10]
are. Under state law, we cannot add any
[26:14]
subjective design standards and
[26:16]
currently most of our design standards
[26:18]
outside of the ADU ordinance are
[26:20]
subjective. So we want to strengthen
[26:22]
those so that we can continue
[26:23]
implementing them and the way to do that
[26:25]
is to um make them objective and it also
[26:29]
provides more clarity for applicants. It
[26:31]
makes the the review process and the
[26:34]
ministerial review processes that we're
[26:36]
required to do under state law much more
[26:38]
streamlined and it's a way to preserve
[26:40]
our design standards in a way that stays
[26:42]
true to the character of the town.
[26:44]
>> Okay. So these design standards
[26:45]
specifically apply to ADUs and single
[26:48]
family residents. We're not talking
[26:50]
about design standards for multif family
[26:51]
housing.
[26:52]
>> Absolutely not. No, those are those projects would be separate. Yes.
[26:55]
>> Okay. Um yes. Um Council Member Adams
[26:59]
has additional questions. Go ahead,
[27:01]
>> Madam Mayor. Um I want to make sure that
[27:03]
I didn't misunderstand the deed
[27:06]
restricted affordable housing
[27:10]
uh ADU issue that you brought up. Is
[27:13]
this something people could elect to do?
[27:15]
And what would be the benefit to the
[27:19]
citizens?
[27:20]
>> Correct. Right now we don't have any
[27:22]
requirement for deed restricted units.
[27:25]
Um the benefit to them would they would
[27:28]
be eligible for this subsidy if they
[27:31]
deed restricted their unit. So the
[27:34]
benefit to them is that they're these
[27:35]
additional funds would be available to
[27:37]
them.
[27:38]
>> But it would not influence at all the
[27:40]
application to have an ADU.
[27:43]
>> No, absolutely not.
[27:44]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[27:47]
>> Okay, great. Um I think we c we may
[27:50]
proceed to the next section. Thank you.
[27:52]
Thanks for asking those questions.
[27:54]
>> And this next one um next goal is
[27:58]
enhance quality of life and the first
[28:00]
item was to the bolster the code
[28:01]
enforcement program um which largely
[28:04]
also is building and planning. So, I'll
[28:06]
let um Tim speak to it in a second, but
[28:08]
this has really been a citywide um or
[28:11]
townwide uh effort this year with moving
[28:15]
this function from the police department
[28:17]
to the building and planning department.
[28:19]
Um right now it's filled with a a
[28:21]
contract code enforcement officer, but
[28:23]
working with HR to develop a job
[28:25]
description uh for a code compliance
[28:27]
coordinator, do that recruitment um
[28:30]
which is in the final stages. Um and
[28:32]
then obviously HPD does support some of
[28:35]
our code enforcement activities still
[28:37]
and uh Chief Colola uh has been very
[28:41]
helpful in especially the gas leaf
[28:43]
blowers and sending u patrol out there
[28:46]
to remind gardeners about the ban and
[28:50]
give them the resources. So um we've
[28:52]
actually received quite a few
[28:54]
compliments on code enforcement which is
[28:56]
not always the case in every town. So,
[28:58]
um it's a work in progress, but we're
[29:01]
it's been um going very well so far. And
[29:03]
I'll let Tim add a little bit about the
[29:06]
code compliance coordinator position.
[29:10]
>> Uh yeah, as Mandy just explained, we've
[29:12]
taken on the role of code enforcement,
[29:14]
but changed the title to be more
[29:16]
descriptive of what we're planning for
[29:18]
that position. And it's going to be one
[29:21]
part traditional code enforcement uh you
[29:24]
know regulating of the municipal code
[29:27]
illegal parked vehicles, garbage cans,
[29:29]
uh property line disputes, trees, etc.
[29:32]
But another portion of it is going to be
[29:35]
to help out building staff uh monitoring
[29:38]
construction sites for uh longevity of
[29:41]
the project. Uh whether or not they're
[29:43]
tracking their bonds correctly, that
[29:45]
they're on track to complete the
[29:46]
project. And also just being another set
[29:48]
of eyes out there in the in the field
[29:50]
daily. um able to take a look at the
[29:53]
site conditions, current site
[29:54]
conditions, whether or not they're using
[29:56]
their dumpsters or whatever elements
[29:59]
that they have imposed on them for
[30:01]
construction as their their construction
[30:03]
management plan. Uh another enforcing u
[30:07]
body out there in the field. We've
[30:08]
traditionally um over the past 2530
[30:12]
years just had one field inspector daily
[30:14]
out making rounds going to um not
[30:17]
necessarily everywhere in town but just
[30:19]
wherever they're called for that
[30:20]
particular day. And this is going to be
[30:23]
an additional support mechanism. They'll
[30:25]
have a list of projects that either that
[30:27]
have become on our radar because they're
[30:29]
falling behind or they've had parking
[30:32]
issues or several neighbor complaints or
[30:34]
they're starting too early. Um, and
[30:36]
that's going to be a big portion of what
[30:38]
the code compliance coordinator along
[30:40]
with just the standard code enforcement
[30:42]
operations is going to accomplish for
[30:45]
her. And as uh Mandy said, we're in the
[30:47]
final stages. I think to gez, today's
[30:50]
Monday, Thursday, I believe is our final
[30:53]
interview. And hopefully we'll be giving
[30:54]
an offer sometime to an applicant um
[30:57]
sometime later in the week or early next
[30:59]
week. So, it's coming close.
[31:05]
Um, I I do have a follow-up question on
[31:08]
that specific issue. Um, regarding
[31:10]
construction fencing, it was always my
[31:12]
understanding that when a project is
[31:14]
under construction, they're required to
[31:16]
have a green fence. Um, if it's I guess
[31:20]
if it's adjacent to the right of way.
[31:22]
I'm not sure if they what the language
[31:24]
is around the requirement. And when
[31:28]
projects are not compliance with that,
[31:31]
what are the exceptions that would allow
[31:33]
that? Because sometimes residents will
[31:35]
send me a photo and say, "Why is this
[31:38]
going on, so to speak? There's no
[31:39]
construction fence. There's mud all over
[31:41]
the place, etc., etc. Could you just
[31:44]
>> Yeah. And not every project will require
[31:47]
construction fencing. There are certain
[31:48]
thresholds that that get them into that
[31:51]
uh restriction or, you know, that
[31:53]
element needs to be applied. And that's
[31:55]
at the $750,000 valuation to where we
[31:58]
can then have a construction comp uh
[32:01]
management program, which gives us all
[32:03]
the tools to make sure that they're
[32:05]
parking in their correct location, that
[32:07]
they have ingress and egress that's not
[32:09]
tracking mud. We still do try to monitor
[32:12]
the ingress and egress regardless of the
[32:15]
level of uh or valuation of the project,
[32:18]
but uh the fences aren't necessarily
[32:20]
immediately or automatically required.
[32:23]
So, so it depends on the value of the
[32:25]
project
[32:26]
>> more and we can evaluate a project
[32:28]
that's below 750. If we if it warrants
[32:30]
that it needs fencing, if there's a
[32:31]
hazard or if it's something that needs
[32:33]
to be uh addressed, then we can impose
[32:35]
that with just a simple correction
[32:38]
notice. And with regards to the
[32:40]
schedule, if a project I believe is it
[32:43]
two years for each bond, could you just
[32:45]
explain how that works again in terms of
[32:47]
how long once you get the permit,
[32:50]
>> how long do you have to complete your
[32:52]
project?
[32:53]
>> Every project uh will be given the
[32:54]
aotted time based on valuation. So
[32:58]
depending on the size scope of work, um
[33:01]
what doesn't entirely get recognized is
[33:04]
the fact that that bond is only
[33:06]
applicable to the single family
[33:08]
dwelling. And as we know, most of these
[33:10]
projects also will have an ADU or they
[33:12]
might get a new pool and and an ADU and
[33:15]
a pool house or cabana, new landscaping.
[33:19]
Um all those are separate permits, not
[33:22]
under the timeline of the single family
[33:24]
dwelling. So we will hear
[33:27]
quite often that a project's been going
[33:29]
on for three three and a half years.
[33:31]
Well, if we look at the actual building
[33:33]
permit, typically that has for the
[33:35]
single family dwelling has not expired
[33:37]
or has not gone past. It's all the
[33:39]
additional work on site that gives the
[33:42]
neighbors specifically the impression
[33:44]
that this project is three and a half,
[33:46]
four years long.
[33:48]
>> That's really helpful to know um in
[33:51]
terms of clarification. And is there a
[33:53]
state law that precludes us from putting
[33:56]
um time limit on the permits let's say
[33:58]
for ADUs or other accessory structures?
[34:02]
I mean what what is what are the rules
[34:05]
currently and are we constrained by
[34:07]
state laws? Uh you can be constrained by
[34:10]
state laws if the but what we hang our
[34:12]
hat on is those projects that are have
[34:15]
uh posted a bond for completion. Uh that
[34:18]
is the the carrot. That's what that's
[34:20]
what hopefully motivates them to stay on
[34:22]
track and get to completion within a
[34:25]
reasonable amount of time. Um each bond
[34:29]
um also has the option of requesting a
[34:32]
90-day extension uh with reason if they
[34:35]
have reasons that you know that they can
[34:37]
indicate or give to us that show why
[34:39]
this has been delayed. Uh we then send
[34:41]
out a notice to the adjacent neighbors
[34:44]
to see if there's any objection to any
[34:46]
uh 90-day extension. And typically the
[34:48]
first 90-day extension, we have no
[34:50]
objection. It's when we start getting
[34:52]
into the second request uh that we start
[34:55]
to hear from the neighbors that this is,
[34:57]
you know, this needs to stop, they need
[34:58]
to finish, and they need to pay a
[35:00]
penalty. So,
[35:02]
>> when you say reasonable amount of time,
[35:03]
what is a reasonable amount of time for
[35:05]
the initial bond for, let's say, an
[35:07]
accessory structure?
[35:09]
>> Uh, well, for an ADU, it's a 12 month.
[35:12]
>> Okay. Uh but if if if a project is not
[35:15]
bonded, then the state does allow for a
[35:18]
permit to run for quite some time if the
[35:22]
applicant andor general contractor is
[35:24]
savvy enough to navigate. There are ways
[35:28]
to fail an inspection and then wait 180
[35:31]
days to call for a reinspection and your
[35:33]
permit is still active even though
[35:35]
you've gone another six months.
[35:37]
>> Gotcha. Thank you. Um Vice Mayor Ragdale
[35:39]
have questions.
[35:41]
Uh Tim, that is all super interesting
[35:44]
and very helpful. Thank you for asking
[35:46]
those questions. Um get William's
[35:49]
attention. I would love um an article in
[35:52]
our newsletter. William or Mandy um some
[35:55]
kind of FAQ because that is something
[35:57]
that even if people don't call us or
[35:59]
don't call you, it's something that
[36:01]
they're thinking when they drive by a
[36:03]
construction site that they think is
[36:05]
going on for too long and they may be
[36:08]
annoyed by that. Um, I just think that
[36:10]
that's super helpful. Just
[36:13]
>> everything you just said,
[36:15]
>> we've got it recorded into some kind of
[36:17]
an FAQ. I think that super super
[36:19]
helpful. I had a quick question. Um,
[36:21]
comdev, is that community development
[36:24]
something software or
[36:26]
>> Yeah, that's that's our permitting
[36:27]
software.
[36:27]
>> Okay.
[36:28]
>> Thank you.
[36:31]
>> Yes. Um, Council Member Adams,
[36:33]
>> thank you so much, Tim. and I know it's
[36:36]
going to be very helpful to get this CCC
[36:39]
person on board. Uh we're all looking
[36:41]
forward to that. Will that person also
[36:44]
be charged with, for example, if they
[36:47]
see a construction fence go up, but they
[36:51]
don't see a permit for work, which I
[36:55]
know I've had complaints about a
[36:58]
construction fencing that was up for at
[37:01]
least two years without any work
[37:04]
happening. So, it may have been that
[37:07]
they were readying the site or
[37:09]
something, but do we have a way that
[37:12]
this CCC can really check against the
[37:16]
records while they're doing these
[37:19]
inspections of the town?
[37:22]
>> Um, yes. um anything that rises to the
[37:25]
level of say suspicion that you know
[37:27]
we'll we'll check on every project any
[37:29]
property any address if it just looks to be abnormal or or or we're not
[37:34]
aware of why there would be a
[37:36]
construction fence and as I said earlier
[37:39]
having that that's also being done
[37:41]
currently by the building inspector who
[37:43]
has a finger on the pulse of all active
[37:44]
permits uh but having this additional
[37:47]
individual out in the field is only
[37:49]
going to make things you know better for
[37:51]
us and be able to uh identify any
[37:54]
infractions.
[37:57]
>> Do we have any restrictions on people
[38:00]
putting up construction fencing without
[38:03]
a construction project?
[38:05]
>> Um we do we we well first and foremost
[38:08]
if it was a fence uh regardless if it's
[38:10]
a temporary construction fence uh
[38:12]
potentially could require uh planning
[38:15]
review or you know we want to make sure
[38:17]
that it's actually located on the
[38:19]
private property not in the public
[38:20]
rightway. um if it's up for a certain
[38:23]
amount of time without the benefit of a
[38:26]
permit, it can become a nuisance under
[38:28]
chapter 8 of our municipal code. Uh so
[38:31]
there are mechanisms in place, but it's
[38:33]
not
[38:35]
the fence example is not something that
[38:36]
we've had often.
[38:38]
>> No, it's an unusual circumstance and I
[38:40]
believe there was a chainlink fence
[38:42]
there already, so they wouldn't have
[38:44]
needed a fence permit, but they put up
[38:47]
the green uh sort of whatever it is. you
[38:51]
can't see through all the way around
[38:53]
their property. Um, not a very
[38:57]
attractive
[38:58]
thing, but maybe not against an
[39:01]
ordinance. I didn't know.
[39:04]
>> Familiar with the property and I believe
[39:06]
it's being addressed.
[39:07]
>> Thank you.
[39:08]
Um, any no additional
[39:11]
questions? We'll move on to the next.
[39:13]
Um, thanks Mandy for accommodating this
[39:16]
uh
[39:17]
in-depth analysis of your presentation.
[39:20]
Thank you.
[39:21]
>> And more to come on this.
[39:22]
>> Yeah.
[39:23]
>> Uh the next item under here is to create
[39:25]
an age inclusive community. And this is
[39:28]
an example of one of the goals that came
[39:30]
from becoming an age friendly community.
[39:33]
And it's you won't see it on our next
[39:35]
list of goals, but that doesn't mean
[39:36]
that it's not going to continue. It's
[39:38]
really become a component of many of our
[39:40]
programs. Um and so when uh the bike
[39:43]
pedestrian master plan for example or
[39:45]
the website refresh was done um a lot of
[39:48]
those principles and uh contacts in the
[39:51]
community that helped with the age
[39:53]
friendly initiative uh were contacted
[39:55]
and integrated and the youth commission
[39:57]
uh has really taken this and run with it
[40:00]
on their tech days. Uh, and so this will
[40:02]
be something that we'll continue to
[40:04]
reference and include in our other
[40:06]
projects, but you won't see it as a
[40:08]
standalone um project in the proposed
[40:10]
list for today. Um, but that's not to
[40:13]
say that it's not happening.
[40:16]
Uh, the next item is to explore the
[40:18]
potential property donation of 40
[40:20]
Baywood. And so, as you know, this uh
[40:22]
town voted to accept the property
[40:24]
contingent upon the property tax issue
[40:26]
being resolved. Um and so we are moving
[40:29]
towards that with an executed agreement
[40:31]
and you'll see this carry over into next
[40:33]
year with um taking ownership of the
[40:36]
property and preparing some plans and
[40:38]
feasibility studies. So this is one that
[40:41]
will most definitely carry over to the
[40:43]
proposed list of goals um but reached a
[40:45]
big milestone um in the 2526 year.
[40:50]
Uh the next item is to enhance common
[40:52]
spaces in town. And this is uh providing
[40:55]
staff support and coordination with our
[40:57]
wonderful Hillsboro Beautification
[40:59]
Foundation. And actually at our March
[41:01]
meeting uh we'll be updating the
[41:03]
memorandum of understanding that the
[41:05]
town has to better reflect uh how things
[41:08]
work. This was something that came out
[41:11]
of a conversation with HBF leadership
[41:13]
and they'd been discussing it and um
[41:15]
have approved the revisions um and
[41:18]
worked closely with um director of
[41:20]
public works and city engineer Paul
[41:21]
Willis um and the city manager's office
[41:24]
to just make those updates. And so that
[41:26]
will come for consideration the council
[41:27]
at the regular March meeting.
[41:30]
And then the last item was to explore
[41:32]
the potential of development of a
[41:34]
walking trail around Crocker Lake. and
[41:36]
we've done some um background research
[41:38]
on the past conversations and uh we've
[41:42]
kind of reached agreement with HBF to
[41:43]
just continue monitoring the situation
[41:46]
um passively, but uh that it was sort of
[41:49]
a mutually agreed upon objective, but we
[41:51]
again it'll kind of continue being
[41:53]
monitored. You won't see it as a
[41:54]
standalone goal or priority. Um but
[41:57]
staff is aware of this interest and
[41:59]
we'll incorporate it into future plans
[42:01]
um as it fits.
[42:04]
Um before we go forward yes um Vice
[42:07]
Mayor Ragdale have a question and I also
[42:09]
have a question.
[42:09]
>> I was just wondering um with the
[42:11]
continue monitoring what what are we
[42:14]
monitoring?
[42:17]
» Something to add to that?
[42:18]
>> Yeah. So, um, because I actually put
[42:21]
this on last year, um, I've had some
[42:23]
discussions with staff that 40 Baywood
[42:26]
really has kind of gotten in that lane
[42:28]
and there's so much work involved with
[42:31]
bringing up 40 Baywood. And I I think
[42:33]
that 40 Baywood will provide um, a lot
[42:36]
of what Crocker Lake would. So, in my
[42:39]
mind, I think we do 40 Baywood first and
[42:41]
then Crocker Lake because it's kind of
[42:44]
um it's a lot of the same work and I
[42:46]
think it would really it it would be a
[42:48]
lot to take on both at once. So, we
[42:50]
still have so much work to do with 40
[42:52]
Baywood as far as how we're going to
[42:54]
administrate it, how we're going to pay
[42:55]
for it, how how it's going to be open to
[42:58]
the public, what uses it's going to
[42:59]
have. So, um I just wanted to speak up
[43:02]
because it was I put it on last year. I
[43:06]
feel that it makes sense to really focus
[43:09]
on 40 Baywood first.
[43:12]
>> Uh, thanks for that clarification. I
[43:14]
appreciate that. And also um the
[43:17]
question I have about the Crocco Lake um
[43:19]
walking trail, which sounds like it
[43:21]
could be a fantastic experience.
[43:23]
However, um we are obligated if it
[43:26]
becomes a walking trail. I I need to
[43:28]
know from a legal standpoint, are we
[43:30]
obligated to open it to the entire
[43:32]
community beyond Hillsboro? Yes, that's
[43:35]
we would be required to open it beyond
[43:37]
just town residents.
[43:38]
>> Yes, that's what that was my
[43:40]
understanding. I just wanted to clarify
[43:41]
that and Vice Mayor Ragsdale have a
[43:43]
follow-up. Oh,
[43:44]
>> I I appreciate the clarification. I
[43:45]
understand. Uh just wanted to check just
[43:47]
what what are we monitoring?
[43:50]
There's um in the language of the deed,
[43:52]
we're just moni we just there's some uh
[43:54]
timing around that, but we also need to
[43:56]
have some discussions with our um public
[43:59]
works department regarding vegetation
[44:01]
management in that area with CCFD um on
[44:03]
the vegetation management as well and
[44:05]
the concerns with the water as well as
[44:07]
our um risk management uh insurance pool
[44:10]
of what that would take in terms of the
[44:12]
town. So, it's a lot of different
[44:14]
stakeholders that we would need to to
[44:17]
bring together and really move forward.
[44:19]
So, at this point, we're prioritizing
[44:22]
the 40 Baywood work because a lot of the
[44:24]
insurance questions will be done at 40
[44:26]
Baywood and hopefully we have a model
[44:28]
that we can translate over to a walking
[44:30]
trail um should we get uh should we move
[44:33]
on to that as the next priority.
[44:37]
» Thank you.
[44:38]
>> And just one follow up on that. If we
[44:40]
were to revisit that in terms of ongoing
[44:42]
research and execution of the trail,
[44:45]
again, the issue of fire mitigation in
[44:48]
that very enclosed corridor, I'm sure
[44:50]
remains paramount. So, we'll need to
[44:52]
address that and make sure that that's
[44:53]
part of the plan going forward.
[44:55]
>> Definitely.
[44:57]
>> Um, yes, by uh council member Trunk. So
[45:00]
um I want to ask a questions regarding
[45:02]
creating the age inclusive um community
[45:06]
and um I do appreciate I think that you
[45:09]
know um there was a uh an estimate of
[45:14]
over uh close to 90% of uh you know the
[45:19]
um residents uh in the county that are
[45:23]
really uh aging in place and and you
[45:26]
know um approaching uh to the um the
[45:30]
aging
[45:32]
uh group shall we say. Uh my my question
[45:35]
is regarding the uh imple you know um
[45:38]
the applications or the creating the uh
[45:41]
age friendly um uh community is that u
[45:46]
about the mobility and and I would urge
[45:49]
that our res uh our staff look into the
[45:52]
autonomous cars. you know, it it's here
[45:54]
to stay. Um and obviously there's a lot
[45:57]
of attractions um on the rider side of the the interest and also um to the
[46:03]
SAM transport uh you know uh in terms of
[46:06]
uh the shuttles because as we increase
[46:09]
the ADU the infrastructures of our town
[46:12]
is going to change the dynamics and so
[46:15]
to relieve the congestions. I think
[46:17]
those are um areas that may we we may
[46:20]
want to look into to to come ahead of
[46:22]
time as to what are the plans for these
[46:27]
type of um mobility uh for our seniors
[46:32]
in town. Um I think that that is going
[46:34]
to be uh paramount uh in terms of all
[46:37]
the activities that we want to uh
[46:39]
include or provide the services.
[46:43]
>> Um I have a question for council member
[46:46]
Chuang. Um is that does SAM trans have a
[46:50]
formula in terms of when and how to
[46:52]
determine to actually provide
[46:55]
transportation within a community? Is it
[46:57]
based on how many people are registered
[46:58]
to I mean what what is the criteria for
[47:01]
that?
[47:03]
>> Right. Samsung really is about buses and the shuttles and and the ready
[47:09]
wheels and I think uh in those space um
[47:13]
you know uh they primarily focus on the
[47:15]
underserved. However, uh for the last
[47:18]
five or six years when we start talking
[47:21]
about the impact of the housing and the
[47:24]
densities of those housing units, um I
[47:28]
think that part of the that equation is
[47:30]
trying to relieve the traffic uh by
[47:33]
having uh less cars, right? And to that
[47:37]
extent I think that people are looking
[47:39]
into autonomous cars as one of the
[47:41]
solutions so that you can get out of the
[47:43]
car but you are hopping into another car
[47:46]
right um and then for um uh the transit
[47:50]
there are ready wheels sort of on demand
[47:52]
shuttles that while currently there are
[47:55]
pilot programs for the underserved
[47:58]
communities uh in uh north fairy oaks
[48:01]
and also in Halfoon Bay there are
[48:04]
opportunities I think for the cities to
[48:07]
talk to them about what are the models
[48:10]
that we can come up with that is going
[48:12]
to serve our uh communities so that our
[48:15]
seniors um will get out of the car and
[48:19]
be able to take those options as you
[48:21]
know viable options and availabilities
[48:24]
to to be able to go to their doctor's
[48:26]
appointment, grocery shopping or field
[48:29]
trip you know with friends.
[48:32]
>> Thank you.
[48:35]
Um, Council Member Adams,
[48:36]
>> uh, just an add-on to that, I think we
[48:38]
also ought to include the Youth
[48:40]
Commission in that conversation to
[48:42]
provide more alternatives for their
[48:44]
transportation besides just ebikes to
[48:48]
get places and not to label it as the
[48:50]
old people's bus, but to look at
[48:54]
shuttles that could take all of our
[48:56]
population, young mothers with children,
[48:59]
all kinds of people that are really
[49:02]
stuck. So, I think I think it's a great
[49:06]
suggestion and I think it should be one
[49:08]
of our priorities to develop maybe some
[49:11]
relationships with autonomous cars, make
[49:13]
sure that we are permitting them and so
[49:16]
forth. Thank you.
[49:17]
>> Thank you. Um, Vice Mayor Ragsdale,
[49:20]
>> um, I I love all of this discussion. Uh
[49:23]
just um one other thing that we do have
[49:26]
um through Peninsula Family Service,
[49:27]
there is Got Wheels, which is just an
[49:29]
individual car, so it doesn't
[49:31]
necessarily um take cards off the road,
[49:33]
but for people that need it for and that
[49:36]
is for older um older people. Uh but
[49:40]
it's for $5. It'll take you anywhere.
[49:42]
And it does seem like in conjunction
[49:44]
with 40 Baywood, it would be great to
[49:46]
have this discussion if we could have a,
[49:49]
you know, shuttle to pick people up or
[49:52]
remind them about gut gutw wheels, um,
[49:54]
etc. And we do have commute.org, but
[49:56]
that that's really for commuting to
[49:59]
work.
[50:00]
>> Okay. Thank you. Yes. Um,
[50:04]
Miss Brown, you miss Thank you. I
[50:05]
believe this topic came up last year and
[50:07]
so we did do some preliminary research
[50:09]
with some other cities that have
[50:10]
implemented uh city sponsored shuttle
[50:13]
services in partnership with private
[50:15]
companies. So um we can revisit that
[50:17]
research and open those conversations
[50:19]
again.
[50:20]
>> Thank you.
[50:23]
>> Um moving on, the next goal is improve
[50:25]
town infrastructure and I will turn this
[50:27]
over to our uh director of public works
[50:29]
and city engineer Paul Willis.
[50:31]
>> Hello again. Uh thank you for the
[50:33]
opportunity to present the public works
[50:35]
department and what we're working on. As
[50:36]
you know, about half of the town's
[50:38]
budget is spent through public works,
[50:40]
whether through one of the enterprise
[50:41]
funds or through our general fund. Um
[50:44]
but going through our list, you some of
[50:46]
you may have had the opportunity to tour
[50:48]
the Daryl Tank site. The Daryl Tank site
[50:51]
is the largest water tank and piece of
[50:54]
infrastructure within the town's uh
[50:56]
system. It is a 2 milliongal
[51:00]
concrete tank that's capable of
[51:02]
withstanding a 8.0 earthquake. And the
[51:05]
reason why this is significant, this
[51:07]
project and all of our other projects in
[51:09]
the next 5 years are really built to um
[51:13]
work in conjunction with the future
[51:15]
Highline project. And the goal is uh
[51:18]
this is the highest point of
[51:19]
distribution in the town. It allows us
[51:21]
to transfer water to all of our other
[51:24]
tanks, whether they're mid-level or the
[51:26]
lower level. And in the near future,
[51:29]
when the Highline comes into play and is
[51:32]
fully operational, we will have
[51:34]
mid-level tanks that are not going to be
[51:37]
needed any longer, that are much smaller
[51:40]
that we'll be able to abandon, remove,
[51:43]
and uh maybe even sell those properties
[51:45]
if that's the council's goal, or turn
[51:46]
them into parks or or whatever else you
[51:48]
need. But uh this uh Daryl tank is the
[51:51]
first piece to make all of that
[51:53]
feasible. And again, it supports our
[51:56]
future goal of being both seismic and
[52:00]
wildfire resilient because of its
[52:02]
location. Again, it's a much larger tank
[52:04]
than was there before and increases our
[52:06]
capacity and our resilience.
[52:10]
Um the next project you've heard is the Highline Water Project. the Highline
[52:14]
Water project, we were previously
[52:16]
awarded a brick grant and then with the
[52:18]
change administration, it was potenti it
[52:21]
was put on hold and then we heard before
[52:23]
last holiday that uh it's back on. So
[52:27]
other than the news that it's back in
[52:30]
operation and the the brick grant will
[52:32]
be coming, we have still haven't gotten
[52:34]
the magical piece of paper that's sent
[52:36]
to us from FEMA that says here here's
[52:38]
your money. uh but with the uh
[52:40]
assistance of Mandy and our consultant,
[52:42]
we've gone forward with the uh HMA grant
[52:45]
or HMGP I think is the formal name and
[52:48]
that is another source of funding. We're
[52:50]
looking forward to uh continuing that
[52:53]
process. You've probably also heard that HMGP grant or when you saw the the
[52:59]
approval for that last month, the the
[53:01]
dollar figure did go up and that's due
[53:04]
to a couple factors. number one time
[53:06]
it's delayed a year and a half and
[53:08]
number two when we looked at the details
[53:11]
the HMGP or HMA grant had about 11%
[53:16]
increase due to tariffs so now the
[53:19]
tariffs may be deemed not uh correct
[53:22]
we'll see if that affects our overall
[53:24]
costs because it's such a big project
[53:26]
but uh we we on when we apply for these
[53:29]
grants we ask for the best case scenario
[53:33]
because you can't go back and ask for
[53:35]
more and then uh we hope that we're
[53:37]
fully approved. Then if we don't use it
[53:38]
all then we don't have to go back to the
[53:41]
other partners whether it's Milbury
[53:43]
Berlingame for additional funds. So
[53:45]
that's the case on the Highland water
[53:47]
project. Uh street resurfacing projects.
[53:50]
We're very proud of our streets as you
[53:52]
know we have the highest PCI pavement
[53:54]
condition index in the whole peninsula
[53:57]
and uh we want to keep it that way and
[53:59]
we we achieve those goals uh by
[54:02]
leveraging grants. We also achieve them
[54:04]
uh by being smart coordinating with
[54:07]
utilities and having moratoriums on
[54:09]
streets. So if we spend millions of
[54:11]
dollars on a project uh we don't cut
[54:14]
them and the utilities don't cut them
[54:16]
for period of between two to five years.
[54:18]
So we preserve them and we do this by
[54:21]
sending out coordination letters in
[54:22]
advance to the utilities so they know
[54:24]
and companies like PG in the past have
[54:27]
actually uh moved up projects or delayed
[54:30]
projects so they don't affect these
[54:32]
streets. Uh but we also receive a major
[54:35]
part of our funding through our building
[54:38]
uh permits that go through because when
[54:40]
a contractor does significant work and
[54:42]
damages a roadway, they pay their fair
[54:44]
share to replace or fix the roadway on
[54:47]
behalf of the entire public. We have a
[54:49]
dedicated fee and Tim's group just does
[54:52]
an incredible job collecting that. The
[54:53]
more successful we are in uh issuing
[54:56]
permits, the more funds are available to
[54:58]
the public to fix the roadways. So
[55:01]
that's uh just a really key part. Uh
[55:03]
next item number four, bike and ped
[55:05]
master plan. We had received grants last
[55:08]
year for the bike ped master plan. You
[55:10]
maybe are participated in in the
[55:13]
surveys. Uh we worked with the schools.
[55:15]
We worked with the local bike ped
[55:17]
groups, our representatives, and we had
[55:19]
a really good plan that's in place. Uh
[55:21]
we continue to identify upcoming project
[55:24]
improvements and priorities. I've spoke
[55:26]
to our commissioner about the next one
[55:27]
that we hope to to put in the books and
[55:30]
we're talking to our designers about
[55:31]
that. We don't have any money for it
[55:33]
yet, but there's a plan. So, we hope
[55:36]
that it'll be funded just like the last
[55:37]
one. And, uh, the eucalyptus pathway, as
[55:40]
you remember, when we did get the
[55:42]
funding. Uh, every time I drive by
[55:44]
there, there's always at least three or
[55:46]
four people enjoying that. such a a nice
[55:48]
piece to our community and we want to
[55:50]
keep adding to that to provide a safe
[55:52]
way to the schools, but also an option
[55:54]
for mobility for just anyone that wants
[55:57]
to enjoy the outdoors and and do it in a
[55:59]
safe protected area, not in the roadway.
[56:03]
And then finally, uh establishment of
[56:06]
utility underground districts. Uh this
[56:08]
is something that uh we've been working
[56:09]
on with our commissioner. uh public
[56:11]
works right now is very just been
[56:14]
supportive of reviewing the documents or
[56:16]
providing GIS information uh so that way
[56:18]
we know precisely where those
[56:20]
opportunities uh lie. So I think that's
[56:23]
my summary. I did want to mention that
[56:25]
none of this would be possible if we
[56:27]
didn't have dedicated members of our
[56:29]
staff. So Sarah Bachmann who you met is
[56:31]
here behind me. She's our senior
[56:32]
analyst. So, she knows everything from
[56:36]
valves to tools to every bit and part
[56:39]
that we spend in public works. And then,
[56:42]
of course, without further uh I don't
[56:44]
have to do any more introduction,
[56:46]
there's Natalie Griman, our deputy
[56:47]
director, who handles all of our capital
[56:49]
projects, our designers, and upcoming
[56:51]
future uh planning for the CIP.
[56:58]
» Um, thank you Paul for that
[56:59]
presentation. I do have a couple of
[57:01]
questions but I will defer to my
[57:02]
colleagues first. Um Vice Mayor Rexdale
[57:07]
I
[57:07]
>> think it it's okay to give comments and
[57:09]
opinions right in this yes yes
[57:11]
discussion
[57:12]
>> um uh just such a fantastic pivot for
[57:16]
the highline funding. Uh congratulations
[57:19]
to all of you and wherever it ends up
[57:22]
coming from just um that pivot was um
[57:25]
just remarkable and thank you. Um, and
[57:28]
uh, I think I mentioned this before, but
[57:30]
with regard to the repaving, our street
[57:33]
was repaved and just handled so
[57:35]
perfectly, the communication and um, I
[57:38]
have a little pun, but it was a very
[57:41]
smooth process. So, um, I just really
[57:44]
um, appreciate that as as a resident.
[57:46]
Um, and then just a thought popped into
[57:49]
my head when you talked about um,
[57:51]
decommissioning some midlevel um, water
[57:54]
storage. when you said the word park, of
[57:57]
course, I thought dog park. So, um, just
[58:00]
something to keep in mind. Thank you.
[58:03]
>> Thank you for that. And I just want to
[58:05]
comment on on the paving of your street.
[58:07]
Uh, council members do not know when
[58:09]
streets are paved. We never tell you the
[58:11]
names because that way when you come
[58:12]
here, you can vote on them and know that
[58:14]
you are not biased. So, we pave the
[58:17]
worst first.
[58:19]
>> Thank you.
[58:20]
>> My street is heavily used. Thank you.
[58:23]
Um, Council Member Adams,
[58:26]
>> thank you. This will just be a quick
[58:28]
compliment to everyone at public works.
[58:31]
Uh, you when you come against the rock
[58:35]
in the road,
[58:37]
you figure out a way to go around. And,
[58:40]
uh, I think that kind of spirit is
[58:43]
reflected in our Highline project, a
[58:47]
great project that you designed. And we
[58:50]
will eventually get that done. I'm
[58:52]
absolutely certain of it and we're very
[58:54]
proud of having the highest rated uh
[58:57]
streets in San Monteo County and that
[59:00]
doesn't come without your effort. Um and
[59:04]
also the undergrounding of utilities has
[59:08]
been quite a wonderful project that was
[59:11]
worked on extensively by our assistant
[59:14]
city manager and I wanted to make sure
[59:16]
we reflected that it's a very complex
[59:19]
concept.
[59:21]
uh and I think we will be having uh some
[59:25]
more information for the council and for
[59:29]
the citizens soon. Uh so I wanted people
[59:32]
to know that that was coming. But this
[59:34]
also reflects back with our relationship
[59:37]
with PG&E that we talked about earlier.
[59:39]
I think working on our relationship with
[59:43]
PG& not just in looking in alternatives
[59:46]
but also looking at how we can make that
[59:48]
better at all times in all ways for all
[59:52]
parties is something that is a good goal
[59:56]
for us to have. It matters uh just about
[1:00:00]
daily. So thank you for everything that
[1:00:03]
department has done and great
[1:00:05]
accomplishments this past year.
[1:00:08]
Um, I have a follow-up question. Council
[1:00:11]
member Chong, do you have a question as
[1:00:12]
well or comment?
[1:00:17]
» It It's not not related.
[1:00:18]
>> Okay, it's not related. Thank you. Um,
[1:00:21]
so just quick questions. Um, I certainly
[1:00:24]
want to um thank the staff for your um
[1:00:28]
advanced thinking on the funding. Darot
[1:00:31]
Tank is a great examples. you know,
[1:00:34]
we're looking forward to the Highline
[1:00:36]
project, but really Dereotank is
[1:00:38]
instrumental because you look ahead, you
[1:00:40]
figure out the the plans and we were
[1:00:42]
able to get it done before all these
[1:00:44]
funding issues to be of issues, right?
[1:00:47]
So, I I commend you for that. Um, I also
[1:00:51]
want to say um about the PCI is such a
[1:00:55]
bragging rights among the counties.
[1:00:57]
We're at 82. Um, and I have to say many
[1:01:02]
cities that I work with regionalwise um
[1:01:04]
are looking into measure A um and the
[1:01:08]
county for the funding and um so for you
[1:01:12]
to be able to lead the way and then
[1:01:14]
figure out um in in advance where the
[1:01:18]
PCI rating was going to be and how we're
[1:01:21]
going to you know have a systematic way
[1:01:23]
of paving the roads are critical and we
[1:01:26]
the residents are enjoying it. Uh so
[1:01:28]
really thank you for that. Um also I
[1:01:31]
want to say that you know the the the
[1:01:34]
bike and pedestrian master plan continue
[1:01:37]
to be a issues. I mean I I understand
[1:01:40]
that there is interest in terms of
[1:01:43]
everyone wants in the ideal way to have
[1:01:46]
the pedestrians the bike the the the
[1:01:49]
vehicles all on the roads but the
[1:01:51]
reality is speed is an issue. So I think
[1:01:53]
that you know that would be something
[1:01:55]
that we'll have to work closely with the
[1:01:57]
PG on
[1:01:59]
uh the speed um so that if everyone
[1:02:03]
slowed down that will likely to have the
[1:02:07]
sort of a scenic weight of having the
[1:02:10]
vehicles the pedestrians and the um the cyclists all enjoy the roads. But
[1:02:16]
until then I think that there's uh you
[1:02:19]
know mindset and outreach and
[1:02:21]
reinforcement. I think that we all have
[1:02:23]
to kind of bring together uh into the
[1:02:26]
fold to make that happen. So, thank you.
[1:02:30]
>> Thank you. Um just to follow up, thanks
[1:02:33]
again for the presentation and thanks
[1:02:34]
for all the work you do at public works.
[1:02:36]
The residents love you guys. So do we.
[1:02:39]
Um well, we love all of you guys
[1:02:41]
actually. You kind of want to see.
[1:02:46]
Um but anyways regarding the permits and
[1:02:50]
the costs or sort of the reimbursement
[1:02:53]
that would come towards perhaps um
[1:02:55]
repair or maintenance of our right of
[1:02:57]
way. Um I is sort of when you stated
[1:03:00]
that I thought so clearly as we issue
[1:03:04]
more permits for let's say multif family
[1:03:06]
housing going forward it will also
[1:03:09]
generate additional funding that could
[1:03:11]
go towards maintaining our right of way.
[1:03:13]
Is that is that an accurate assessment?
[1:03:16]
Exactly correct. And the intent was that
[1:03:18]
because uh about 13 years ago when I
[1:03:21]
first started, one of the major
[1:03:22]
complaints was on a particular street
[1:03:24]
was the damage to the roadway was always
[1:03:26]
done by the contractor with their heavy
[1:03:28]
equipment and the gouging of the
[1:03:30]
roadways. So now they're paying their
[1:03:32]
fair share according to how big their
[1:03:34]
frontage is or how much uh work they're
[1:03:37]
doing. And then that goes into our
[1:03:39]
deposit account that we track every
[1:03:41]
year. And it helps pave not just that
[1:03:43]
roadway, but the roadway for all because
[1:03:45]
remember the construction vehicle
[1:03:46]
doesn't just go to that home. It travels
[1:03:48]
all the way to get to the plant or the
[1:03:51]
dump or wherever else they're going.
[1:03:53]
>> Yeah. I I just think that's an important
[1:03:55]
point um because going forward, whether
[1:03:58]
it's the next two, five, 10 years, there
[1:04:01]
will be increased construction um within
[1:04:04]
the town. and um just reminding our
[1:04:07]
residents that that would eventually
[1:04:09]
once those permits are should bring back
[1:04:11]
revenues that could be that will be used
[1:04:13]
to maintaining the roads and the
[1:04:15]
infrastructure. So, thanks for pointing
[1:04:16]
that out. Appreciate that. Um I don't
[1:04:19]
I'm sorry. Um go ahead. Um Council
[1:04:21]
Member Adams. Yes.
[1:04:23]
>> Thank you, Madame Mayor. This kind of
[1:04:25]
ties into the next uh slide as well, but
[1:04:28]
when we talk about 25 miles per hour in
[1:04:31]
Hillsboro,
[1:04:32]
um I would encourage us to also wear
[1:04:36]
that as a flag that we really will
[1:04:40]
enforce a slower speed than what we have
[1:04:43]
right now and um gives people time to
[1:04:46]
look at the beautiful roads, highest
[1:04:49]
rated in San Monteo. But as council
[1:04:52]
member Schwang points out, this would
[1:04:54]
make everybody safer and we are trying
[1:04:57]
to do so much on that. So it isn't
[1:05:00]
necessarily a public works problem, but
[1:05:02]
it segus into the next section.
[1:05:06]
>> Um, were you suggesting that we consider
[1:05:08]
lowering our speed limit below 25 miles
[1:05:11]
an hour? I wasn't clear on that.
[1:05:12]
>> No, I I'm not sure it's 25 miles an hour
[1:05:15]
everywhere, but it's pretty close. I
[1:05:18]
don't know.
[1:05:19]
Yeah, it's 25 miles everywhere in town
[1:05:22]
except for a couple streets and I think
[1:05:24]
one is Black Mountain and the other is
[1:05:26]
Crystal Springs, but everywhere else is
[1:05:29]
25 miles hour.
[1:05:31]
>> So, your suggestion is that we enforce
[1:05:33]
the 25 miles hour or were you suggesting
[1:05:36]
something slower than 25 miles hour?
[1:05:38]
>> No, I suggest that we have a
[1:05:40]
conversation about what we want, but at
[1:05:43]
least that we enforce what we already
[1:05:46]
have.
[1:05:46]
>> Oh, okay. Yeah, got you. Thank you. All
[1:05:49]
right, so we can move forward with the
[1:05:51]
next presentation.
[1:05:55]
» Thank you. And we wouldn't be able to
[1:05:57]
pay for all those wonderful projects
[1:05:59]
without our diligent and dedicated
[1:06:02]
finance team. So, I'll turn it over to
[1:06:04]
finance director Jan Cook to discuss the
[1:06:05]
slide.
[1:06:07]
>> Good morning.
[1:06:09]
First, I'd like to introduce the team
[1:06:10]
from finance that's here. We have Rich
[1:06:12]
Santiago, assistant finance director.
[1:06:15]
And then we also have Gigi Ing, who is
[1:06:18]
our budget analyst. So, she's the one
[1:06:21]
that prepares the book and helps with
[1:06:23]
the presentation and gets all the nuts
[1:06:25]
and bolts together for our budget. So,
[1:06:28]
um, so there's two goals here, uh, both
[1:06:31]
kind of long-term looking. Uh, the first
[1:06:33]
one is something that the city council
[1:06:35]
studied late this fall. It's the long
[1:06:38]
range financial funding plan and that
[1:06:41]
really has had two aspects to it. One is
[1:06:44]
looking kind of more internally at what
[1:06:46]
we can do to leverage our current
[1:06:48]
operations to provide additional savings
[1:06:51]
or revenue uh which is translating
[1:06:54]
primarily into the second one you see
[1:06:57]
there on the first number one which is
[1:07:00]
uh the building and planning uh fee
[1:07:03]
review which is well underway. And then
[1:07:06]
the second thing is to really look at
[1:07:09]
our operational
[1:07:11]
efficiency from our budgetary
[1:07:14]
perspective and also looking at what our
[1:07:16]
long-term needs are uh from a capital
[1:07:19]
basis. And with that study, what was
[1:07:22]
recommended and uh city council brought
[1:07:26]
forward for staff to to continue on was
[1:07:29]
to looking into a feasibility for a tax
[1:07:32]
measure. And so we are well on on our
[1:07:34]
way in reviewing that with uh
[1:07:37]
consultants and that um process will be
[1:07:41]
unfolding um over the next couple of
[1:07:43]
months.
[1:07:46]
The second one is the water and sewer
[1:07:49]
rate studies. Uh the city council will
[1:07:52]
be considering
[1:07:54]
uh issuing a Proposition 218 notice for
[1:07:57]
both the water five-year rate series as
[1:08:00]
well as the sewer rate series. And those
[1:08:03]
um will be coming forward uh primarily
[1:08:06]
in the next few months as well. But
[1:08:09]
they'll be implemented starting in the
[1:08:12]
sometime in 2627.
[1:08:15]
With that, I'd be happy to answer any
[1:08:17]
questions that you have.
[1:08:21]
Um, any question from the any questions
[1:08:23]
from the um council?
[1:08:26]
>> Yes, council member Adams.
[1:08:28]
>> Sorry, I I skipped over your slides for
[1:08:30]
the next one, but this is a question for
[1:08:32]
you. Uh, first of all, I want to just
[1:08:35]
compliment all the work that you and
[1:08:36]
your staff do and your reputation around
[1:08:40]
the county when I talk to other cities
[1:08:42]
is not just impeccable but admirable.
[1:08:46]
So, thank you. Uh the SFPUC did announce
[1:08:51]
its rates
[1:08:53]
uh this past week and I wanted to know
[1:08:57]
if in our discussion that will be
[1:08:59]
happening uh at our next council meeting
[1:09:02]
will reflect the actual uh rate rather
[1:09:06]
than the projection.
[1:09:08]
Yes, those that information has been
[1:09:10]
provided to us and we will be
[1:09:12]
incorporating that into the the water
[1:09:15]
rate study projections. Yes.
[1:09:20]
>> Yes. by Sam Rex.
[1:09:23]
>> I just want to say that it may look like
[1:09:26]
only two goals, but you guys do so much
[1:09:30]
work and so much is put on your
[1:09:32]
department and it's amazing how small
[1:09:34]
and efficient and amazing your
[1:09:36]
department is and you also are doing the
[1:09:39]
CCFD work and that's also having a
[1:09:42]
changeover of systems. So, um, thank
[1:09:45]
you.
[1:09:47]
>> Any additional questions from the
[1:09:48]
council? I just have one followup
[1:09:50]
regarding um I echo what my colleagues
[1:09:53]
just stated. Thanks for all the work you
[1:09:54]
do. Of course, without the work you do,
[1:09:57]
we couldn't get anything done. So um
[1:10:01]
specifically as we conduct long-term
[1:10:03]
financial analysis, are we um does that
[1:10:06]
incorporate um reimbursements for
[1:10:09]
services that are being provided by Town
[1:10:11]
of Hillsboro to um let's say CCFD or
[1:10:14]
other JPA services that we may provide?
[1:10:17]
Does that include it?
[1:10:19]
Yes, there is. So, uh, one of the
[1:10:21]
recommendations was to look at what
[1:10:24]
we're charging CCFD for finance
[1:10:26]
services. So, that is another piece of
[1:10:28]
that. And then, uh, the other piece
[1:10:31]
which is incorporated into a consulting
[1:10:35]
uh, project that CCFD is underway on is
[1:10:39]
looking at um, CCFD as a as a district
[1:10:43]
or different structures. uh um and
[1:10:47]
within that one of the actions would be
[1:10:51]
in that analysis to look at uh cost
[1:10:54]
sharing formula and whether that should
[1:10:56]
be adjusted based on you know current
[1:11:00]
operational services that are provided
[1:11:03]
to the three cities.
[1:11:05]
>> Okay, thank you.
[1:11:08]
Okay, no additional questions on that.
[1:11:10]
Um we can
[1:11:12]
>> um yes
[1:11:14]
>> I I just want to add a comments that you
[1:11:15]
know uh the share services is is
[1:11:18]
critical to any kind of a JPA and
[1:11:21]
anytime that we're looking at it uh it
[1:11:23]
is critical that we actually reflect uh
[1:11:27]
the services that we provide and that is
[1:11:30]
a ongoing process and I you know I'm
[1:11:32]
very grateful that you are on it. Um I
[1:11:35]
also think that um periodically the the
[1:11:38]
town will review on the staff hourly
[1:11:41]
rates and that is ex exactly reflecting
[1:11:43]
of the services that we are charging
[1:11:46]
whether it was to the permit fees or to
[1:11:49]
the share services that we provided for
[1:11:52]
uh CCFD and other agencies. Um because
[1:11:56]
we're an public agency and we're not in
[1:12:00]
this to make money. we're really
[1:12:02]
reflecting the staff hours for providing
[1:12:05]
the services to make you know uh
[1:12:08]
evaluations or or project uh permits
[1:12:11]
process or or something like that. So I just want to make that clear and thank
[1:12:16]
you for your excellent work.
[1:12:18]
>> Thank you. Okay, we may proceed to the
[1:12:21]
next presentation. Thank you.
[1:12:23]
>> Next item uh will be presented by Chief
[1:12:26]
Kola.
[1:12:28]
>> Good morning. I wanted to give an update
[1:12:31]
on our drone as first responder. Uh we
[1:12:34]
went live with that in October and since
[1:12:38]
then we've learned a few lessons um that
[1:12:41]
we're we're working with with Brink. Uh
[1:12:44]
one is the battery life uh doesn't last
[1:12:47]
as long as we thought it was. So it's
[1:12:49]
been in uh been sent back for repair uh
[1:12:54]
at least one time. Um, we also are
[1:12:59]
interested in probably researching
[1:13:02]
different uh areas where we could put
[1:13:05]
additional pods. That way we have
[1:13:07]
coverage longer throughout town.
[1:13:10]
Uh, the next steps we have with our
[1:13:14]
drone program is we're going to uh
[1:13:18]
ask more officers uh to become drone
[1:13:22]
pilots. And we're also uh re uh
[1:13:25]
releasing that to our uh reserve
[1:13:29]
officers to get them trained to see if
[1:13:31]
uh they'll be willing to fly.
[1:13:35]
The next part uh for the statewide uh
[1:13:39]
nextgen 911 is a cloud-based system that
[1:13:43]
we were going to go to. Unfortunately,
[1:13:45]
there's been some delays with DOJ and uh
[1:13:49]
the state of California. they're not on
[1:13:51]
the same page. And so we're all set on
[1:13:54]
our end, but we're waiting for the state
[1:13:57]
and DOJ to come together with
[1:14:00]
standardized laws.
[1:14:04]
This coming uh council meeting in March,
[1:14:07]
we will be presenting to council on
[1:14:10]
consent uh handheld uh radios for our
[1:14:15]
department. Our radios are 20 years old
[1:14:18]
and they are in dire need of
[1:14:21]
replacement. So, uh the recommendation
[1:14:25]
from staff is that we do the Motorola
[1:14:29]
LTE radios which will allow us to have
[1:14:33]
better reception throughout town in
[1:14:35]
areas where our network doesn't reach.
[1:14:38]
Uh this also will allow our handhelds to
[1:14:42]
be taken out of the area and still have
[1:14:45]
remote access to the town. So we're
[1:14:47]
really looking forward to this
[1:14:49]
opportunity
[1:14:51]
and uh new procurement. We are also
[1:14:55]
bringing in March uh staff report for
[1:14:59]
individual uh issued rifles and uh that
[1:15:03]
will allow each officer to have uh
[1:15:07]
standardized operating practices
[1:15:10]
and it will also uh maintain it almost
[1:15:15]
like handguns. You know, we don't issue
[1:15:18]
uh officers
[1:15:20]
uh rotating handguns. They each have
[1:15:23]
their own uh they each have their own
[1:15:26]
handguns. And so we'll our idea is that
[1:15:29]
everyone has a standardized operating
[1:15:32]
procedure. And so that is coming to you
[1:15:35]
in in March. Um as for the
[1:15:39]
departmentwide safety upgrades, uh we
[1:15:42]
have uh secured the exterior of our our
[1:15:47]
police department. We've also
[1:15:49]
implemented several CA uh cameras and a
[1:15:53]
new locking system throughout our
[1:15:56]
facilities. Uh the next step for us is
[1:16:00]
we're researching uh uh I'm sorry uh
[1:16:05]
testing verata cameras. their mobile
[1:16:08]
cameras that we're using and we can
[1:16:11]
deploy those in uh different scenarios
[1:16:15]
such as the Memorial Day parade or uh
[1:16:18]
the concourse or different events
[1:16:20]
throughout town and some mobile unit
[1:16:22]
that we're in the testing process for.
[1:16:26]
Uh step two, our generator replacement.
[1:16:29]
Our generator is over 30 years old and
[1:16:32]
so we're in the process of uh getting
[1:16:35]
that replaced. Unlike uh sim I'm sorry,
[1:16:39]
similar to a vehicle, the generator is
[1:16:43]
going to need to be built. And so once
[1:16:46]
we have all of our
[1:16:49]
permits in order, which is our next
[1:16:51]
steps, is to obtain the construction
[1:16:54]
permits as well as the public notices.
[1:16:58]
We have a school that's within 1,000 ft.
[1:17:01]
even though it's in Berling game, we
[1:17:03]
will need to set out notices to let them
[1:17:06]
know that we are replacing the
[1:17:08]
generator. So that is one of our next
[1:17:11]
steps. And uh number three, uh ongoing
[1:17:15]
recruitment and retention. We are having
[1:17:19]
interesting time finding qualified
[1:17:21]
officers who want to become police
[1:17:23]
officers. So, uh, my staff has roundtled
[1:17:28]
some different ideas as to how we can
[1:17:30]
get qualified candidates and possibly
[1:17:33]
laterals enticed to come over to our
[1:17:36]
department. And one of those re one of
[1:17:38]
those uh ideas we had was to go to the
[1:17:42]
Traverse Air Force Base, which they were
[1:17:45]
scheduled to do today, but had to uh
[1:17:48]
postpone. Um, but they plan on going in
[1:17:51]
a couple weeks down to the Air Force
[1:17:53]
base when they have a career day. That
[1:17:56]
way they can set up a booth and, you
[1:17:59]
know, entice officers to come, military
[1:18:02]
personnel to come and work for our town.
[1:18:06]
And then we have our annual wellness
[1:18:08]
checks. Those are scheduled for the end
[1:18:11]
of April. And these are one- on-one
[1:18:14]
sessions with a a competent counselor
[1:18:18]
that will uh you know talk through
[1:18:21]
anything that our officers have. And we
[1:18:25]
also have increased uh instruments in
[1:18:29]
our gym facility for their wellness as
[1:18:33]
well.
[1:18:38]
» Great. Um thank you for that
[1:18:41]
presentation. Um, I do have a few
[1:18:44]
questions, but I will ask my colleagues
[1:18:46]
to comment. So, ask questions if they
[1:18:47]
have any. Starting with Council Member
[1:18:49]
Crow.
[1:18:50]
>> And Madame Mayor, sorry for
[1:18:51]
interruption. Just to add a little bit
[1:18:52]
into that as well. Chief Coochie uh and
[1:18:54]
his team had an emergency to attend to,
[1:18:56]
so they're not here, but they are
[1:18:57]
working closely with the police
[1:18:59]
department as well in the drone program.
[1:19:01]
So, we're looking at integrating and
[1:19:02]
having the drones be able to respond to
[1:19:04]
the majority of the fire calls that come
[1:19:06]
in as well. We just want to let you make
[1:19:08]
you aware of that.
[1:19:09]
>> Thank you. That's uh u that's a good um
[1:19:13]
input. I do have questions around that.
[1:19:15]
So, thanks for clarifying that.
[1:19:17]
>> Yeah, council member.
[1:19:19]
>> Thank you. Thank you, Chief. And thank
[1:19:20]
you everyone for the work this year and
[1:19:22]
the reports. Um a couple quick questions
[1:19:25]
for the the camera technology and also
[1:19:28]
the generator. Hopefully, we will have a
[1:19:31]
new police department sometime
[1:19:34]
relatively soon. Will these be things
[1:19:36]
that can be reusable with new
[1:19:38]
construction as we're investing in them?
[1:19:40]
>> Yeah, the generator can absolutely be
[1:19:43]
moved. Uh they'll need new permits for
[1:19:45]
it, but it's absolutely something that
[1:19:47]
we could use in the future building.
[1:19:50]
>> And the cameras, too. Obviously, we need
[1:19:52]
them.
[1:19:53]
>> Yes, cameras, too.
[1:19:54]
>> Great. Thank you. And then um I'm sure
[1:19:57]
this is a discussion that will come up
[1:19:59]
when it comes on the council agenda, but
[1:20:01]
could you just expand a little bit more
[1:20:02]
why you think I think what residents are
[1:20:05]
going to say about the individual rifles
[1:20:06]
or why why do we need to bring more guns
[1:20:09]
into Hillsboro? Why how often are these
[1:20:13]
rifles used and why does each
[1:20:16]
um officer need their own rifle?
[1:20:19]
>> Right.
[1:20:22]
the the rifles aren't used on a daily
[1:20:26]
basis. They're used on instances where
[1:20:29]
it's a high stress type of call,
[1:20:32]
barricaded subject. Um, and so the
[1:20:37]
rifles allow for longer range and uh
[1:20:41]
ease of use. Let me let me get my notes.
[1:20:51]
rifles. The reason why we're going to do
[1:20:54]
uh
[1:20:55]
individual rifles is because they're in
[1:20:58]
they're issued to the same they're
[1:21:01]
issued the same way duty handguns are
[1:21:03]
issued
[1:21:06]
and they won't rotate between shifts and
[1:21:11]
seek to apply the same standards to the
[1:21:13]
duty rifles.
[1:21:17]
Thank you. Um any um Vice Mayor Rexdale,
[1:21:23]
>> thank you very much. Um I appreciate all
[1:21:25]
this information and um super excited
[1:21:28]
about the drone program continuing and uh drone first responder and glad
[1:21:33]
that we're working with CCFD and also
[1:21:36]
working out the um intricacies of
[1:21:39]
batteries etc. Um I had a two uh
[1:21:44]
questions. Um, one is with regard to the
[1:21:46]
flock cameras. I know we have a very
[1:21:49]
detailed privacy policy. Um, I but I
[1:21:53]
also know that the topic has been in the
[1:21:56]
news and come before other councils. Um,
[1:21:59]
I personally am I'm good with our
[1:22:02]
privacy policy, but I'm wondering if
[1:22:04]
that's something we can put forward in a
[1:22:07]
more noticeable way. if um I don't know
[1:22:09]
if if anyone is getting concerned um
[1:22:13]
with regard to data sharing which I know
[1:22:16]
we don't do and um we're not allowed to
[1:22:19]
do also by state law but I think that
[1:22:22]
the public may need a reminder of that.
[1:22:26]
Um and then the the second comment is
[1:22:29]
with regard to the speed limit just
[1:22:31]
because we're on that page now. I I I
[1:22:33]
love that we have the motorcycle officer
[1:22:35]
and we're working on enforcement and
[1:22:37]
just
[1:22:38]
keep that up. And I think it might be 15
[1:22:41]
miles per hour near the schools.
[1:22:43]
Um
[1:22:45]
I'm not positive on that, but I think
[1:22:46]
we're allowed to reduce it to 15 miles
[1:22:49]
per hour at the school near the schools.
[1:22:51]
To my knowledge, it's 25 miles per hour
[1:22:54]
is reduced in a residential area.
[1:22:57]
>> Do you want to?
[1:22:58]
>> Yeah. and and also relation to the
[1:23:01]
schools there is a 15 m an hour when children are present
[1:23:04]
>> when children
[1:23:04]
>> so you'll see the posted speed limit
[1:23:06]
which is generally the black and white
[1:23:07]
speed limit which is primopascious speed
[1:23:09]
right can't go over 25 but then there's
[1:23:11]
conditional speed limits and one of
[1:23:13]
those would be the yellow sign that says
[1:23:15]
15 miles an hour when children are
[1:23:17]
present
[1:23:17]
>> perfect thank you
[1:23:21]
>> yes um council member Adams yes
[1:23:24]
>> thank you madam mayor uh it seems to me
[1:23:27]
we replaced our rifles last year.
[1:23:32]
Different rifles.
[1:23:33]
>> No, those were our handguns that we
[1:23:35]
replaced.
[1:23:37]
>> Okay.
[1:23:37]
>> They were they were our handguns with a
[1:23:40]
red dot optic for it.
[1:23:44]
>> Well, I think it's a great idea to have
[1:23:45]
an individual rifle for an individual. I
[1:23:48]
think that really makes a lot of sense.
[1:23:50]
Um, but thank you for that
[1:23:52]
clarification.
[1:23:54]
>> Yeah. So I I um I appreciate that
[1:23:57]
comments on the rifles and and I think
[1:23:59]
basically the points that I'm taking
[1:24:01]
from your presentation is again creating
[1:24:04]
a specified identification in terms of
[1:24:07]
who the rifle is assigned to regardless
[1:24:10]
of when it's used. We can trace it to
[1:24:13]
that specific officer. Is that am I
[1:24:15]
correct in that assessment?
[1:24:17]
>> Correct. And it would allow the officer
[1:24:19]
to train with their own personal rifle.
[1:24:21]
And that way they'll get used to how it
[1:24:24]
operates and uh how to clean it and and
[1:24:28]
all all there is and exactly the sling
[1:24:31]
will fit exactly to their body
[1:24:33]
>> for quickness of deployment.
[1:24:35]
>> Right. And the rifles are are typically
[1:24:38]
only used in specific um high stress
[1:24:42]
situations such as hostages or
[1:24:44]
emergencies etc. when they need long
[1:24:46]
range. It's not something that an
[1:24:48]
officer carries around.
[1:24:49]
>> Correct.
[1:24:50]
>> On a reg like a hand unlike a handgun.
[1:24:52]
>> Correct. In specific situations where it
[1:24:55]
is needed.
[1:24:56]
>> Okay.
[1:24:56]
>> But not on a they wouldn't respond to it
[1:24:59]
on an an alarm call unless
[1:25:02]
>> it warranted that type of response.
[1:25:04]
>> And and it will be consistent with the
[1:25:07]
um standard operating procedure compared
[1:25:10]
to other um police departments. Is that
[1:25:13]
correct?
[1:25:13]
>> Correct. There are other agencies in San
[1:25:16]
Monteo County like San Bruno and South
[1:25:18]
San Francisco. They also offer uh issue
[1:25:21]
uh individual rifles.
[1:25:24]
>> Thanks for that clarification. And I
[1:25:25]
think the question um posed by council
[1:25:28]
member Crowley um and Adams is these are
[1:25:31]
the questions the residents will be
[1:25:32]
asking us. So we we just that's why we
[1:25:35]
asking all these questions so we'll have
[1:25:37]
more information
[1:25:38]
>> there. And also um let me finish my
[1:25:41]
questions regarding the flu camera
[1:25:44]
security issue. Um I agree with Vice
[1:25:46]
Mayor Ragsdale that um it would be
[1:25:50]
important to put out more information
[1:25:52]
regarding the privacy of information on
[1:25:55]
that. Several residents have reached out
[1:25:56]
on the specific issue on flock cameras.
[1:25:59]
>> Correct. We we have all of our
[1:26:01]
information publicly available on our
[1:26:04]
privac uh transparency portal.
[1:26:08]
>> Okay. and and and that basically
[1:26:09]
explains to resident in terms of where's
[1:26:12]
the information stored how are they
[1:26:14]
reassured that there's privacy around it
[1:26:17]
because those are the questions I get
[1:26:19]
from residents.
[1:26:20]
>> Yes.
[1:26:21]
>> In light of what's been in the news
[1:26:22]
recently.
[1:26:23]
>> Correct.
[1:26:23]
>> I think it's probably a good idea for us
[1:26:25]
to consider having a more open
[1:26:27]
discussion on city in city council in
[1:26:29]
the sometime in the near future to
[1:26:30]
address that as well.
[1:26:31]
>> Certainly. I think as the updates come
[1:26:32]
out about both the drones and our um
[1:26:35]
privacy related to the flock cameras
[1:26:37]
that we can give an update on that. And
[1:26:39]
one of the just as a talking point, one
[1:26:41]
of the key things to remember is that we
[1:26:42]
only our data is only shared between law
[1:26:45]
enforcement agencies. Uh and that
[1:26:47]
sharing happens through the Nick Rick,
[1:26:49]
which is our northern California
[1:26:51]
regional intelligence center. So that is
[1:26:52]
our highest level of security that we
[1:26:54]
have in the nine barrier counties. So,
[1:26:56]
they're a top secret group that both
[1:26:58]
works uh mostly with the military and
[1:27:00]
federal uh FBI,
[1:27:03]
but none of that information is shared
[1:27:05]
with any commercial companies. And I
[1:27:06]
think where we've run into some of the
[1:27:08]
issues that you may have heard about in
[1:27:09]
the news is where there's a a kind of an
[1:27:12]
information sharing that happens between
[1:27:15]
the the vendor and a private company and
[1:27:18]
that none of that occurs here within
[1:27:19]
Hillsboro. and and actually I would say
[1:27:22]
I don't think there's any agencies in
[1:27:23]
Sonteo County that share with any
[1:27:25]
commercial industry. So that really is
[1:27:27]
the concern. So it's just just as a
[1:27:29]
talking point I think we need to
[1:27:30]
reaffirm that at each chance that we
[1:27:32]
get. So we'll do some messaging on that.
[1:27:34]
>> Okay, great. Thank you. And um regarding
[1:27:38]
the drones increasing um utility by
[1:27:41]
other officers and CCFD um sharing, I
[1:27:45]
think it's a wonderful idea. I mean,
[1:27:47]
residents love to know that the drones
[1:27:48]
can be used to for things like fires,
[1:27:52]
you know, picking up uh early warning
[1:27:54]
signs. Um, and you may not have the
[1:27:56]
answer to this at this point. Neither
[1:27:58]
does finance. I just wondered, are we
[1:28:01]
going to be um reimbured for some of
[1:28:03]
those services um if CCFD uses it since
[1:28:06]
that's a JPA or is that an issue that's
[1:28:08]
not been discussed yet or even
[1:28:09]
entertained at this point?
[1:28:12]
No, I I believe we're not going to
[1:28:14]
charge them for any any mutual aid
[1:28:17]
usage. It would just be like any other
[1:28:20]
mutual aid that our department offers.
[1:28:23]
Uh whether it be for the SWAT team or
[1:28:27]
K9 officer going to another agency, we
[1:28:30]
wouldn't charge.
[1:28:31]
>> So, at this point, it's deemed mutual
[1:28:34]
aid. And in terms of the procurement of
[1:28:36]
these drones, um, are we as are we
[1:28:38]
partnering with any of the other JPAs
[1:28:40]
with regards to CCFD's use? I'm I'm you
[1:28:43]
know very well I'm on the board of CCFD.
[1:28:45]
So I'm totally on board with this
[1:28:47]
concept. I just wanted some more
[1:28:49]
information on the cost sharing.
[1:28:51]
>> Yeah, on the funding point at this
[1:28:53]
point, it would be a a Hillsboro funding
[1:28:55]
is it would be come from the town and
[1:28:57]
not from the JPA from the agreement
[1:28:59]
there. That being said, you know, we are
[1:29:01]
right now going through a an RFP which
[1:29:04]
is looking at a couple of different
[1:29:05]
variations, not only the governance of
[1:29:07]
CCFD, but also the cost sharing between
[1:29:09]
the three cities. So, that will be
[1:29:11]
implemented within that cost sharing
[1:29:13]
study. So, not that it would be a peruse
[1:29:15]
type of charge, but it would be an
[1:29:17]
additional service that Hillsboro has
[1:29:18]
that maybe the other agencies don't
[1:29:20]
have. So, it would be taken into
[1:29:21]
consideration very similar to how we
[1:29:23]
provide financial services for CCFD as
[1:29:26]
well. So, it's just another uh aspect of
[1:29:29]
the, you know, what Hillsboro is putting
[1:29:31]
into the CCFD compared to the other
[1:29:34]
cities as well. And I will say in the in
[1:29:36]
the future, um that we'll probably see
[1:29:39]
these autonomous drones more as a
[1:29:40]
countywide roll out and it may be even
[1:29:44]
it while we're administering our own
[1:29:46]
right now because it's, you know,
[1:29:47]
considered one of our newest
[1:29:49]
technologies that's probably going to
[1:29:50]
have the greatest impact on public
[1:29:52]
safety. I think that you'll see that
[1:29:54]
system go out countywide and it may be
[1:29:56]
taken over at that point uh by the
[1:29:58]
county. I have some uh close
[1:30:00]
associations with the department of
[1:30:02]
emergency management and a few key
[1:30:04]
employees there and I know they're
[1:30:05]
working on that right now.
[1:30:07]
>> Thank you. That's that's very helpful.
[1:30:08]
>> That is a goal of um Mr. Caligie as
[1:30:11]
well.
[1:30:12]
>> Okay, great. Thanks. That's very
[1:30:13]
helpful. And one final comment is on
[1:30:16]
recruitment and first of all all the
[1:30:18]
work you're doing on wellness and um
[1:30:21]
health maintenance of our officers. I
[1:30:22]
think that's wonderful. Thanks for for
[1:30:25]
doing that um and keeping that as a top
[1:30:28]
priority. Um with regards to recruitment
[1:30:31]
um have we or do we have any internship
[1:30:35]
programs for college students who are
[1:30:38]
interested in criminal justice as a
[1:30:40]
major or career? Do we have any pipeline
[1:30:42]
that we can bring in a college student
[1:30:46]
or graduate student who may be
[1:30:49]
interested in this area? Maybe not
[1:30:50]
necessarily to be specific to be a
[1:30:52]
police officer but in criminal justice
[1:30:54]
or to be a police officer.
[1:30:56]
>> Yeah, we were talking about that in our
[1:30:58]
brainstorming meeting and we were
[1:31:00]
talking about going up to CSM and doing
[1:31:02]
career days doing career days there as
[1:31:05]
well. Plus, they offer monthly um
[1:31:09]
host testing for entry level entrance
[1:31:12]
into the academy where they also have a
[1:31:16]
separate test for what they call the
[1:31:18]
WSTB, the work test, work sample test
[1:31:21]
battery, which is the physical test
[1:31:23]
involved in um in becoming a law
[1:31:27]
enforcement officer. and we were going
[1:31:30]
to set up uh a time when they do those
[1:31:35]
testings to go there trying to seek
[1:31:37]
people that are interested in law
[1:31:39]
enforcement but haven't really gotten
[1:31:42]
all of the information they need or
[1:31:44]
where they want to go. So, you know,
[1:31:46]
kind of get them right before they make
[1:31:49]
any decisions and be able to educate
[1:31:52]
them on next steps, etc.
[1:31:55]
>> Okay. And I'll add to that too that
[1:31:57]
there also are listed in the job fairs
[1:31:59]
as well that we have two or three times
[1:32:01]
a year within the county. Uh that law
[1:32:03]
enforcement plays a role in that as
[1:32:05]
well. And statewide in the state of
[1:32:06]
California, of course, retention and
[1:32:08]
hiring law enforcement is becoming more
[1:32:10]
and more difficult. And I think that
[1:32:12]
you'll see uh post police officer
[1:32:14]
standardized training uh come out with
[1:32:16]
some systems like the chief just spoke
[1:32:18]
about where people can kind of take that
[1:32:19]
first step into it by taking a test or
[1:32:23]
seeing what's involved without making a
[1:32:25]
full commitment. In other words, just
[1:32:27]
seeing if it might be something for
[1:32:28]
them. Whereas in the past, if you wanted
[1:32:30]
to go through that battery of tests, you
[1:32:32]
would have to apply at an agency, have
[1:32:33]
your application accepted, and then be tested into that part. So it's
[1:32:38]
kind of a easier entry for people who
[1:32:40]
may not be fully committed to it but are
[1:32:43]
just have an interest in it. It it
[1:32:44]
allows them to take a look at it.
[1:32:47]
>> Yeah. I think a lot of um students um
[1:32:50]
college students or graduate students
[1:32:51]
who are interested in criminal justice
[1:32:52]
may not even understand what's on the
[1:32:56]
front lines. So any opportunity to give
[1:32:57]
them hands-on experience I think is a
[1:32:59]
good idea. Yeah. Thank you. And yeah we
[1:33:02]
may proceed to the next.
[1:33:04]
>> Oh I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Uh council
[1:33:06]
member Tron go ahead. Sorry.
[1:33:07]
>> Thank you through the mayor. Um chief,
[1:33:10]
appreciate your uh presentation. um
[1:33:13]
really um and and Chief and I had a
[1:33:15]
conversation regarding the flot cameras
[1:33:17]
because it's in the news and I think
[1:33:19]
that the equivalent that is examples
[1:33:22]
that we can uh uh describe is you know
[1:33:25]
how we have the the Microsoft 365 and
[1:33:29]
William would always you know be on our
[1:33:31]
tail to say did you guys you know not
[1:33:34]
you not click on the fish fishing emails
[1:33:38]
not to do this not to do that and go
[1:33:40]
through the training And I think that
[1:33:42]
unfortunately some of the agencies are
[1:33:47]
uh for the lack of better word not very
[1:33:49]
diligent about that and I think that
[1:33:52]
transpired the the sort of the outreach
[1:33:55]
uh the the breach of uh privacy. Um I
[1:33:58]
think that is of concern. Um I do think
[1:34:01]
that uh in conversation with chief and
[1:34:04]
the captain um and by the way captain uh
[1:34:07]
captain sher is um a cyber security
[1:34:12]
expert that has been respected and well
[1:34:15]
uh recognized in the region. Um I I do
[1:34:19]
want to um have you guys talk about a
[1:34:22]
little bit about your audit. uh there is
[1:34:25]
a uh very uh detailed audit process that
[1:34:30]
you will be able to make sure that is
[1:34:32]
ongoing things if if you don't mind
[1:34:34]
elaborate that a little bit. Correct. We
[1:34:37]
do a monthly audit where we go in and we
[1:34:40]
make sure uh all the agencies that we
[1:34:44]
have agreements with are abiding by our
[1:34:46]
policy. So uh one by one we'll go
[1:34:49]
through and we'll check we'll do we'll
[1:34:52]
also do random audits. One of the um one
[1:34:57]
of the options when an when an officer
[1:35:00]
from another agency wants to run a check
[1:35:03]
for one of our uh for a plate they have
[1:35:06]
to put down a reason code per our
[1:35:10]
policy. And the reason code will also
[1:35:12]
make them state if it's a case number or
[1:35:15]
basically what type of offense. It makes
[1:35:18]
them give a reason for looking for that
[1:35:20]
specific vehicle. And so what we'll do
[1:35:24]
is we'll do an audit. We'll make sure
[1:35:25]
that anybody that's running it has the
[1:35:28]
proper reason for it. If not, then we'll
[1:35:31]
terminate our agreement with um that
[1:35:34]
particular agency. We have not have have
[1:35:37]
had any agency uh use our data in a way
[1:35:42]
that's not within our policy.
[1:35:44]
>> Thank you. And I think the flock camera
[1:35:47]
the intent of the flock cameras is
[1:35:49]
really focusing on the license plates
[1:35:51]
and it's not about the drivers or the
[1:35:53]
make of the cars. And also the other
[1:35:55]
part of it is that the agency
[1:35:58]
collectively up and down the state um
[1:36:02]
are using that as a tool. So, and I
[1:36:05]
think most recently either San Mattel or
[1:36:08]
San Francisco has uh done um some kind
[1:36:12]
of uh public announcement that through
[1:36:15]
the success and collaboration with the
[1:36:17]
various agencies and the flock cameras
[1:36:20]
footage be able to uh make some
[1:36:23]
significant arrest.
[1:36:24]
>> Correct. I think it should be noted that
[1:36:26]
Flock is one of our most important
[1:36:28]
investigative tools that we have here in
[1:36:31]
Hillsboro and and and we're very lucky
[1:36:35]
that council approved us getting this um information this this product.
[1:36:42]
And so I I think that one of my goals
[1:36:46]
for next year is to increase the cameras
[1:36:48]
that we have in town.
[1:36:50]
uh crime has gone down considerably in
[1:36:53]
town because of because criminals know
[1:36:56]
that this technology is available and I
[1:37:00]
believe that's uh attributed to the low
[1:37:04]
burglary rates we've had this year.
[1:37:07]
>> Thank you. And Captain Shane, would you
[1:37:09]
like uh to talk a little bit about the
[1:37:10]
dashboards? you know because we have for
[1:37:13]
the transparency we do have all these
[1:37:16]
information updated on the our PD's
[1:37:19]
dashboard. Correct.
[1:37:21]
>> Correct. That dashboard is available on
[1:37:23]
the PD section of the town website. It's
[1:37:25]
the flock transparency portal. It also
[1:37:27]
has our most up-to-date uh privacy
[1:37:30]
policy uh for review. That dashboard may
[1:37:33]
seem limited in that it's it's typically
[1:37:35]
one page, but it outlines every agency
[1:37:38]
that we have an open agreement with. Um,
[1:37:40]
and to my knowledge, they're all state
[1:37:42]
and below. We don't share with any of
[1:37:43]
our federal partners, uh, if that was a
[1:37:45]
concern for anybody, uh, listening. And
[1:37:48]
it also, um, tracks our monthly usage
[1:37:51]
for vehicles run, um, by our officers,
[1:37:54]
as well as, um, how many plates were
[1:37:57]
collected in a a one-month period. I
[1:37:59]
believe you can go back and look at the
[1:38:00]
archival data if you want to go back and
[1:38:02]
see what January looked like of 2026
[1:38:04]
comparatively to 2025, assuming uh, that
[1:38:08]
data is available.
[1:38:10]
Thank you. Um and last questions that I
[1:38:12]
have is regarding the the drone the
[1:38:15]
batteries that you talk about. Um I do
[1:38:17]
believe that we have contract with
[1:38:19]
Brinks that they are on task in terms of
[1:38:24]
replacement in terms of parts and
[1:38:27]
upgrades
[1:38:28]
that that part is not at our expense but
[1:38:32]
they would look into it and be able to
[1:38:33]
repair them. Right, Chief?
[1:38:35]
>> Yes, that's correct. So, we uh returned
[1:38:39]
one of our drones, the one that's in the
[1:38:41]
back of the PD. We returned that and
[1:38:43]
it's uh expected to come back next week.
[1:38:48]
And and I also uh want to uh you know I
[1:38:52]
do believe that we have some public you
[1:38:54]
know listening in on um the fact that
[1:38:56]
when we are select making the selection
[1:38:58]
or the PD is making the selection one of
[1:39:01]
the criteria is to make sure that the
[1:39:02]
privacy issue is critical that the
[1:39:05]
manufacturer is the integrity of the
[1:39:08]
manufacturer is solid in terms of
[1:39:11]
replacing parts in terms of the
[1:39:12]
information collections and so forth.
[1:39:16]
Correct. Uh the replacement turn
[1:39:18]
turnaround time is fairly quickly uh
[1:39:22]
considering the
[1:39:25]
change it needed to have. Thank you
[1:39:28]
chief.
[1:39:28]
>> Thank you. All right. Thank you. We will
[1:39:31]
now proceed to the next presentation.
[1:39:33]
Thank you.
[1:39:36]
» Lee. This slide will be presented by
[1:39:38]
assistant director of building and
[1:39:39]
planning Liz Reese.
[1:39:45]
» All right. Our um first of the tier 2
[1:39:48]
priorities is the safety element update
[1:39:52]
and in looking at uh updated
[1:39:55]
requirements associated with SB 739 I'm
[1:39:58]
sorry dyslexia 379
[1:40:02]
um that requires that climate adaptation
[1:40:06]
is a component of the safety element. So
[1:40:09]
in looking at those requirements and
[1:40:11]
evaluating current and best practices as
[1:40:14]
it relates to climate planning and
[1:40:16]
wildfire responsiveness,
[1:40:18]
we identified that the best approach uh
[1:40:20]
to addressing our safety element as well
[1:40:22]
as um our second goal which is a
[1:40:25]
comprehensive update would be to do a
[1:40:28]
tiered approach, a two-phased approach.
[1:40:30]
So the first phase would be a climate
[1:40:33]
and hazard vulnerability assessment and
[1:40:35]
that would be a really technical
[1:40:37]
analysis of the town's um exposure and
[1:40:41]
vulnerability in terms of wildfire
[1:40:42]
evacuation and climate risk and it would
[1:40:45]
address those requirements of SB 379
[1:40:49]
in including the climate adaptation
[1:40:52]
component of the safety element. The
[1:40:54]
second phase would be taking that data
[1:40:57]
and the findings that result from the
[1:40:59]
phase one vulnerability assessment and
[1:41:02]
looking at how those could be
[1:41:05]
implemented in a broader general plan
[1:41:07]
update. So the general plan is comprised
[1:41:09]
of the individual elements, but they're
[1:41:11]
all related and this data would be
[1:41:14]
applicable to all of those um those
[1:41:17]
elements. And so phase two would be
[1:41:19]
looking at the implementation plan and
[1:41:23]
developing a work program and schedule
[1:41:25]
to then go into G2 which is a
[1:41:28]
comprehensive update to those general
[1:41:30]
plan elements. The housing element is
[1:41:32]
already updated, completed and
[1:41:34]
certified.
[1:41:36]
Next in sequence are all data informed
[1:41:40]
updates. So the circulation element was
[1:41:43]
waiting on the completion of the bike
[1:41:45]
ped master plan which now we can use the
[1:41:47]
data from that to update our circulation
[1:41:50]
element. The remaining elements that
[1:41:52]
need to be updated are land use uh
[1:41:56]
conservation and open space and noise
[1:41:59]
and all of those would be updated based
[1:42:02]
on the data and findings from that
[1:42:04]
climate and hazard vulnerability
[1:42:07]
assessment. And the goal is that by
[1:42:11]
doing this phased approach, it can be a
[1:42:14]
truly comprehensive and strategic update
[1:42:17]
where the data is being collected one
[1:42:20]
time and using AC using it across the
[1:42:22]
board to do a really um
[1:42:27]
I keep saying the word comprehensive,
[1:42:29]
but to do a comprehensive update because
[1:42:31]
all of those elements speak to each
[1:42:33]
other and it's important that they're
[1:42:35]
updated at the same time using the same
[1:42:37]
information and also from a cost-savings
[1:42:39]
standpoint um we believe that there are
[1:42:43]
potential grant opportunities by doing
[1:42:46]
the phase one vulnerability assessment.
[1:42:48]
So, our goal is, of course, to um you
[1:42:52]
know, be strategic about how uh how how
[1:42:56]
money is spent to collect that data, but
[1:42:58]
also to make sure that we're we're doing
[1:43:00]
it all at one time and using it um in a
[1:43:05]
way that makes sense to get everything
[1:43:06]
up to date at one time.
[1:43:09]
And of course, um, as part of the the
[1:43:12]
phase two development, we would return
[1:43:14]
to city council for policy direction,
[1:43:17]
um, and have a conversation about
[1:43:19]
defining the scope, the schedule, the
[1:43:21]
sequencing, and really making strategic
[1:43:23]
and targeted updates to those elements.
[1:43:31]
» Thank you, Miss Ruiz, um, for the
[1:43:32]
presentation. Um, any specific question
[1:43:34]
from the council? Council member Adams.
[1:43:38]
Thank you so much, Liz. Um, you all have
[1:43:40]
been doing a great job on this and I
[1:43:42]
just want to say I think or maybe ask
[1:43:46]
the question when was this section the
[1:43:49]
conservation
[1:43:51]
uh the uh open space no when was that
[1:43:55]
last reviewed?
[1:43:57]
>> Those were all updated in 2005.
[1:44:00]
And so unlike the housing element, the
[1:44:02]
other elements don't have a state
[1:44:05]
mandate for how frequently they get
[1:44:07]
updated. 20 years is the recommendation.
[1:44:11]
So we're at that time where these need
[1:44:13]
to be updated anyway. Um so so it's it's
[1:44:17]
time.
[1:44:18]
>> Thank you.
[1:44:20]
>> Um I have a follow-up question on that
[1:44:23]
specific that was going to be my
[1:44:24]
question. Um in a recent conference that
[1:44:28]
we attended um the Cal City's conference
[1:44:31]
in Southern California, there was a
[1:44:33]
specific discussion around that that we
[1:44:35]
do not need to necessarily
[1:44:37]
do it from scratch. We can do addendums
[1:44:40]
to what we have from 2005. Um looking at
[1:44:44]
the projected cost of 100 to 200,000.
[1:44:48]
Um perhaps you can talk to us about how
[1:44:51]
we can do this more economically uh
[1:44:54]
feasible.
[1:44:55]
>> Absolutely. The goal is to not start
[1:44:57]
from scratch. The goal is to build off
[1:44:59]
of the information that we already have
[1:45:01]
in the elements. Um the cost would
[1:45:04]
really be driven by that phase one
[1:45:06]
climate and hazard vulnerability
[1:45:08]
assessment. um because it is such a
[1:45:10]
technical analysis and we want to make
[1:45:12]
sure that we have the the cutting edge
[1:45:15]
study in terms of evacuation analysis
[1:45:18]
and looking at um wildfire resiliency
[1:45:21]
planning. Um so of course like I said we
[1:45:25]
will explore all grant opportunities any
[1:45:27]
and all grant opportunities to ensure
[1:45:29]
that the cost savings are maximized
[1:45:31]
where possible. Um but in terms of the targeted updates to those elements,
[1:45:38]
we would be building off of what's
[1:45:39]
already there. We wouldn't be um
[1:45:41]
starting from scratch.
[1:45:43]
>> Okay, great. And and um
[1:45:46]
yeah, I think the climate um resiliency
[1:45:50]
updates is critical. Understandably, a
[1:45:53]
lot has changed since 2005. So having
[1:45:55]
that information will be helpful,
[1:45:57]
specific information to residents in
[1:45:59]
terms of how how is this useful. So,
[1:46:02]
thanks for clarifying that. I appreciate
[1:46:03]
it. Um, Vice Mayor Ragdale,
[1:46:07]
>> thank you, Liz. That that um made a lot
[1:46:10]
of sense with the the order of things
[1:46:13]
kind of being in order and also all at
[1:46:15]
once at the same time. Um, the climate
[1:46:18]
action plan. So, that's not an element.
[1:46:20]
It's a separate document, but is
[1:46:24]
informed by the general plan and the
[1:46:27]
elements.
[1:46:29]
>> Yes. And yes. um it's currently a
[1:46:31]
separate document um but under SB 379
[1:46:36]
the CL climate adaptation has to be a
[1:46:38]
component of the safety element and so
[1:46:41]
we've been talking with the city
[1:46:42]
manager's office um and are interested
[1:46:44]
in partnering with the youth commission
[1:46:46]
on their project as it relates to the
[1:46:49]
climate action plan to make sure that we
[1:46:51]
don't have redundancies but anywhere
[1:46:53]
that there are related topics that
[1:46:55]
they're speaking to each other and
[1:46:56]
getting updated at the same time.
[1:46:58]
>> Perfect. Perfect. And thank you. And our youth commission is is gung-ho on
[1:47:03]
this and uh I really appreciate you guys
[1:47:06]
um incorporating their help. Thank you.
[1:47:09]
>> Thank you. Okay, we could proceed to the
[1:47:11]
next um presentation.
[1:47:14]
>> Great. And I think we have um one more
[1:47:16]
slide and then we may take a a short
[1:47:18]
break if that works.
[1:47:19]
>> Perfect. I was going to suggest that.
[1:47:21]
>> Um so this last one is u improve
[1:47:24]
transparency, efficiency, and customer
[1:47:26]
service through system implementation.
[1:47:28]
And we could probably have an entire
[1:47:29]
presentation on systems and IT and roll
[1:47:32]
out, but just have some very high level
[1:47:34]
updates. Um, and so I'll ask our uh city
[1:47:37]
clerk, Lisa Natish, to speak to the
[1:47:39]
agenda management system implementation
[1:47:41]
that is underway and will continue into
[1:47:43]
next year.
[1:47:45]
Thank you. Yes, we are working on the
[1:47:47]
agenda management system. Um I think
[1:47:50]
within days of of Margaret joining the
[1:47:52]
town, we brought her in and had her
[1:47:55]
start speaking with our project manager
[1:47:57]
with the uh the vendor. So uh Margaret
[1:48:00]
and I have completed the training with
[1:48:02]
the vendor and then we'll bring in uh
[1:48:04]
the staff who work on the staff reports.
[1:48:06]
So this uh system allows staff to work
[1:48:09]
on staff reports in the system, route
[1:48:11]
them for approval, and then there uh is
[1:48:14]
the component that builds the agenda,
[1:48:16]
the minutes document, and then there's a
[1:48:18]
great transparency piece that's on the
[1:48:20]
website where you'll get to see um the
[1:48:22]
agenda, the minutes, the video, any
[1:48:25]
supplemental materials, everything all
[1:48:28]
in the same place uh on the website. So
[1:48:31]
we're working to complete that very
[1:48:33]
soon.
[1:48:38]
Um yeah, I I have one quick uh followup
[1:48:42]
regarding the video. Are we archiving
[1:48:45]
our own video now? In other words, is
[1:48:48]
that information
[1:48:50]
>> stored by us?
[1:48:51]
>> Yes. So, the videos are currently on the
[1:48:53]
website. They're just on a link from the
[1:48:55]
agenda page. Uh now, uh so you can get
[1:48:59]
to them now, but in the new system,
[1:49:01]
everything will be all in the same
[1:49:02]
place, all in the same page. So really
[1:49:05]
easy for residents and uh anyone who's
[1:49:08]
interested to access all from one link.
[1:49:10]
So everything will be associated with
[1:49:12]
the meeting all in the same place.
[1:49:14]
>> Yeah. And I I think my question and
[1:49:16]
maybe um that can be this can be looked
[1:49:18]
into later on like who stores that video
[1:49:22]
who who who
[1:49:24]
actually keeps that and how let's say 20
[1:49:28]
years from now someone wants to access
[1:49:29]
that. Um the companies change hands
[1:49:32]
multiple times. technology has changed.
[1:49:35]
How do we do we have any control over
[1:49:37]
that information?
[1:49:39]
I mean, it doesn't have to be answered
[1:49:40]
at this time. We could certainly look
[1:49:42]
into it and maybe at a later time give
[1:49:44]
us an update. I've always been curious
[1:49:46]
as to um um just with my experience on
[1:49:49]
21 and what is it 21 and me in terms of
[1:49:52]
genetic archiving of people's genetic
[1:49:54]
information that then changed hands and
[1:49:57]
who eventually gets a hands on it is I
[1:49:59]
was just curious. Yeah.
[1:50:00]
>> Yeah. Right now they're stored on the
[1:50:02]
town's YouTube account. Um, but we can
[1:50:06]
uh can look into storing the original
[1:50:09]
video files and ensuring that there's a
[1:50:10]
duplicate storage for those.
[1:50:12]
>> Um, but we do also have minutes. Um, so
[1:50:17]
>> but I think the videos are extremely
[1:50:18]
valuable because they're very detailed
[1:50:19]
and um, yeah, if YouTube gets bought out
[1:50:22]
by another tech company and refuse to
[1:50:24]
let go of our information, etc. All
[1:50:27]
right. Anyways, um, I Yes, go ahead.
[1:50:29]
Vice Mayor Rexdale, you have a final
[1:50:31]
comment.
[1:50:32]
>> Final comment like that. They're so
[1:50:34]
good. Um I I just had um a a request and
[1:50:39]
or an offer. Um when you and Margaret
[1:50:42]
are working on the um agenda and the the
[1:50:46]
new way that it's going to look, um I'd
[1:50:49]
love to be your guinea pig. you know, I
[1:50:51]
have a hobby of looking at other
[1:50:52]
meetings and agendas and I'm happy to um
[1:50:56]
click around and um obviously the whole
[1:50:58]
council would like to um have input on
[1:51:01]
uh what it looks like because we have we
[1:51:03]
see other agendas from other board. So,
[1:51:05]
I'm sure we would all have um some very
[1:51:08]
helpful input.
[1:51:09]
>> Great. Thank you.
[1:51:10]
>> Thanks.
[1:51:12]
>> Yes, Council Member Adams. I also
[1:51:15]
already want to compliment you on some
[1:51:17]
of the upgrades you've already done
[1:51:19]
under this system. Uh particularly the
[1:51:21]
readability has been increased
[1:51:23]
tremendously with the use of upper and
[1:51:25]
lowerase and this isn't just for the
[1:51:28]
council. It's for anyone who's looking
[1:51:30]
at our agendas. Uh one of the things so
[1:51:34]
thank you. I'm sure it's going to get
[1:51:35]
even better. I also am handy guinea pig.
[1:51:39]
Um the other thing is with regard to the
[1:51:42]
website, I would really like to again
[1:51:45]
complement our CCAC but also make sure
[1:51:49]
that uh we start uh some kind of a photo
[1:51:54]
library program so that we have more
[1:51:57]
photos of the town. It's not easy to
[1:51:59]
photograph this town without
[1:52:01]
sightspecific
[1:52:03]
images and we need a lot of really
[1:52:05]
vibrant and high quality highdefin
[1:52:08]
images and we have a lot of uh
[1:52:11]
photographers in town that we could
[1:52:14]
enlist to do this. And that library will
[1:52:19]
really keep our website uh looking not
[1:52:23]
only current but more interesting. And
[1:52:26]
if we get a band of photographers who
[1:52:29]
know how to take uh and how to how to
[1:52:33]
take images that are nonidentifiable but
[1:52:35]
still interesting and also how to get
[1:52:39]
releases so that we can use them. I
[1:52:41]
think it would be a a good goal for us
[1:52:44]
to have.
[1:52:44]
>> Yeah. I I I would like to follow up on
[1:52:46]
that. Um, another uh thing I learned
[1:52:48]
from that conference was actually for
[1:52:50]
the general plan updates really using
[1:52:54]
more visuals in terms of what our
[1:52:56]
general plan looks like and using photos
[1:52:58]
from the town would be extremely useful.
[1:53:00]
Like they said, a picture is worth a
[1:53:01]
thousand words. We can convey a lot of
[1:53:04]
information using digital um photos as
[1:53:07]
well as graphic. And we have questions.
[1:53:10]
Yeah, go ahead. Vice Mayor Rexel.
[1:53:12]
>> Sorry. Uh, Council Member Kick and I are
[1:53:14]
so eager to uh share, she agreed that I
[1:53:17]
could share that our William Lee is on
[1:53:19]
it with the photos and CCAC and they're
[1:53:22]
working on uh on exactly what you talked
[1:53:24]
about. Thank you.
[1:53:26]
>> Great. Um, go ahead. Um, Vice Mayor
[1:53:28]
Rexel, I'm sorry.
[1:53:30]
>> Go ahead, Council Member Crowley.
[1:53:32]
>> Great minds think alike. We just at the
[1:53:34]
CCAC, we just said let's start to
[1:53:36]
solicit photos um for the homepage. So
[1:53:40]
great. And I just wanted to um point out
[1:53:42]
there's one small change that I think
[1:53:44]
has been really helpful this year on the
[1:53:46]
part of building and planning and um and
[1:53:49]
the city manager's office that um you've
[1:53:52]
both started to post just the agenda
[1:53:55]
separately from the full packet. And I
[1:53:57]
think that's just so useful when you
[1:53:59]
want to just simply um access the
[1:54:01]
agenda. You don't have to wait till
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everything loads. So thank you for that.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Thank you. Uh
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thank you for the great work. Um you
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know uh it it obviously was felt and
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especially when we were assessing the
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agenda. I also want to compliment the city manager's office for answering
[1:54:20]
the question answering phone calls
[1:54:22]
within three rings. Um that was always
[1:54:25]
you know we have we have residents who
[1:54:27]
um hesitant to call the town hall for
[1:54:30]
questions and I always encourage them to
[1:54:32]
do so. But uh it's it's wonderful to see
[1:54:35]
that it's been picked up regularly and
[1:54:37]
consistently and quickly uh because I
[1:54:40]
think that is much appreciated. Um one
[1:54:43]
other comments that I want to make and
[1:54:44]
that is the our townwide mobile app. I I
[1:54:48]
do think that we need to promote that
[1:54:50]
more. Um I I do you know I think we want
[1:54:52]
to drive the the information to our
[1:54:56]
website. Unfortunately, people are not
[1:54:58]
going to be sitting in front of their
[1:55:00]
desktop or laptop at all times. The
[1:55:02]
phone is really the critical ones. So,
[1:55:05]
to the extent of the YouTube
[1:55:07]
instructions, maybe there's um ways that
[1:55:11]
we can um invite the mayor or you know,
[1:55:14]
some other um staff members to do a
[1:55:17]
quick demo of how to get onto the
[1:55:20]
website and how to be able to sign up
[1:55:23]
and promote uh some of the you know,
[1:55:25]
easy access. some information. I think
[1:55:27]
that will be really critical. Thank you.
[1:55:30]
>> Thank you everyone. I think I agree with
[1:55:32]
the staff. This is a perfect time to
[1:55:34]
take a break. And with that said, we'll
[1:55:36]
adjourn for a 15 minutes, 20 minutes
[1:55:39]
break. We could grab some lunch, early
[1:55:41]
lunch. Okay, sounds good. It's midnight.
[1:55:46]
» We We have this just set up as a small
[1:55:48]
break to take that. I will I believe our
[1:55:50]
city clerk just informed me that lunch
[1:55:52]
uh items are there if you want to grab
[1:55:54]
something real quick. But uh
[1:55:56]
>> lunch is here if you would like it to be
[1:55:57]
a lunch break, if you'd prefer it to
[1:55:59]
just be a brief break, whatever you'd
[1:56:00]
like to do.
[1:56:02]
>> It it is probably appropriate to take um
[1:56:05]
20 minutes, 15 to 20 minutes if someone
[1:56:07]
wants to grab something to eat and then
[1:56:08]
we'll come back in about 20 minutes.
[1:56:10]
>> Okay, let's do it in 20.
[1:56:12]
>> Yeah, mjourn for a break.
[1:56:17]
Okay, we will now resume our special
[1:56:20]
city council meeting where we are
[1:56:22]
discussing our goal setting for 26 27.
[1:56:26]
And um here is the proposed work plan to
[1:56:29]
be presented by assistant city manager
[1:56:32]
um Mandy Brown.
[1:56:33]
>> Thank you. And
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>> I'm sorry, city manager uh
[1:56:36]
>> I will open it up and then of course
[1:56:38]
we'll we'll hand it over to the talented
[1:56:40]
Miss Brown here to get us through it. Uh
[1:56:42]
just a few things on this. This is uh
[1:56:43]
the culmination of some of the meetings
[1:56:45]
that the commissioners have had with
[1:56:46]
department heads. You will see some of
[1:56:48]
these projects are continuing projects
[1:56:50]
from the previous year. And something
[1:56:52]
that we've done and uh just to keep in
[1:56:54]
mind here, these are some of these
[1:56:56]
projects are are going to be ongoing
[1:56:58]
over course of years. So it might seem,
[1:57:01]
you know, why are we reviewing this at
[1:57:02]
this time? We just picked out some of
[1:57:04]
the major ones that we think the council
[1:57:07]
needs to keep updated on and keep
[1:57:09]
getting input about. And also
[1:57:12]
85 to 90% u of what the department heads
[1:57:16]
do with their departments is kind of not
[1:57:18]
listed in here. Previously we've gone
[1:57:20]
through department uh presentations but
[1:57:22]
I think we've had a enough meetings on
[1:57:24]
that category to where you understand
[1:57:25]
the kind of the breadth of work that
[1:57:27]
each department is doing. This is really
[1:57:28]
just on that 10% portion that would be
[1:57:32]
new goals or things that we want to look
[1:57:34]
into doing uh in the following year. At
[1:57:36]
this portion, I want to this is where we
[1:57:38]
want to get as much creativity and
[1:57:40]
everybody's thoughts as we can
[1:57:42]
financially. Of course, we'll have to uh
[1:57:44]
to have a serious conversation with our our director Cook over there to make
[1:57:49]
sure that we can financially do a lot of
[1:57:51]
these uh items up there. And I will say
[1:57:53]
that, you know, recently the vice mayor
[1:57:55]
and mayor and myself attended a meeting
[1:57:57]
uh at the county with uh Mike Caligie
[1:58:01]
and also supervisor Corzo put on and one
[1:58:03]
of the biggest conversations in that was
[1:58:05]
of course uh VLF, the vehicle licensing
[1:58:08]
fund and the budgeting related to that
[1:58:10]
and it uh it was not optimistic I would
[1:58:14]
say is the is the outlook that we're looking at here. Jan uh has been
[1:58:18]
working uh to put together our budget
[1:58:20]
process for the upcoming cycle. At this
[1:58:23]
point, we have that VLF funding within
[1:58:25]
our budget. Um but we just need to keep
[1:58:28]
in mind that that may not be available
[1:58:30]
or it may be a smaller portion than we
[1:58:32]
anticipate uh that being. So, while
[1:58:34]
we're going to go through all these
[1:58:35]
goals now, if at a certain point we need
[1:58:37]
to scale back anything, we can certainly
[1:58:39]
revisit some of them because of
[1:58:41]
budgetary. But that being said, this is
[1:58:44]
the time when we're not going to think
[1:58:45]
about the budget as much as we are just
[1:58:47]
going to think about some of the things
[1:58:48]
you want to do. And I would say here
[1:58:50]
that this is a at a very high level.
[1:58:52]
We're just looking to put the goals out
[1:58:54]
there, not really the nuance of how
[1:58:56]
those goals are done. Once we get the
[1:58:58]
direction from the council, we'll put
[1:58:59]
our departments to work to come back to
[1:59:01]
city council meetings to give you some
[1:59:03]
strategies and some options for you to
[1:59:05]
select on how to achieve those goals.
[1:59:07]
And with that, I'll turn it over to
[1:59:08]
Mandy.
[1:59:11]
Thank you. Um, so as Doug said, we
[1:59:15]
really tried to take some of the the
[1:59:16]
feedback from last year's goal setting
[1:59:19]
um, as well uh, to make sure that we are
[1:59:23]
streamlining this goal list. So this
[1:59:26]
slide has the proposed uh, list of goals
[1:59:29]
based on that input we'd received. And
[1:59:31]
you'll notice that some of the
[1:59:32]
operational or legally required items
[1:59:35]
have been removed. That doesn't mean
[1:59:37]
that they're not getting done. Um, but
[1:59:39]
we are focusing the conversation on more
[1:59:42]
of those specific projects. And when
[1:59:44]
there is something that is legally
[1:59:46]
required listed here, it's because it
[1:59:48]
requires a substantial amount of
[1:59:50]
community engagement or feedback or is a high visibility item for council. And
[1:59:56]
so we've we've tried to incorporate that
[1:59:58]
feedback. We also have that full list of
[2:00:01]
goals, the big um sort of Excel
[2:00:03]
document. Um and based on feedback from
[2:00:06]
last year, there was uh interest in some
[2:00:09]
additional details on the proposed goals
[2:00:11]
of how much would it cost, how much
[2:00:13]
staff time, what does small amount of
[2:00:15]
staff time mean. So we've uh attempted
[2:00:18]
to provide that information, not
[2:00:20]
necessarily trying to get into the
[2:00:22]
nitty-gritty and we are still in the
[2:00:24]
budget development phase. Uh so those
[2:00:27]
numbers are not set in stone, but I did
[2:00:29]
ask we did work with staff to provide
[2:00:31]
some of that preliminary information to
[2:00:33]
inform your discussion today. Um and so
[2:00:36]
that's prepared. Um it's also in the
[2:00:38]
PowerPoint um that we'll just walk
[2:00:40]
through.
[2:00:41]
Um and again, just like in the first um
[2:00:44]
session of the prior year's goals, um
[2:00:48]
jump in for questions or comments as we
[2:00:51]
go along. I'm not going to talk for a
[2:00:53]
long time um and then ask for questions.
[2:00:55]
It'll be a an iterative process.
[2:00:59]
Um so the that first goal A remains the
[2:01:02]
same related to community emergency
[2:01:04]
preparedness and resiliency efforts.
[2:01:06]
Yes,
[2:01:08]
>> Madame Mayor, may I just comment on it?
[2:01:11]
Could it it now just references wireless
[2:01:14]
service rather than telecommunications
[2:01:18]
and
[2:01:19]
>> we can make that change? Okay.
[2:01:23]
Thanks for that clarification. Yeah.
[2:01:30]
» Um okay, so the the telecommunications
[2:01:33]
um needs assessment. So, we have those
[2:01:35]
specific milestones, but really focusing
[2:01:37]
on the third column of the key projects
[2:01:39]
and initiatives, continuing that
[2:01:41]
wildfire preparedness that we had
[2:01:42]
already spoken about, Highline Water
[2:01:44]
Project and grant funding, and then
[2:01:47]
advancing technology to improve public
[2:01:49]
safety and transparency.
[2:01:56]
» Mayor,
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>> yes,
[2:01:57]
>> just a quick comments. Um I I I do think
[2:02:00]
that you know um through the council
[2:02:03]
member Adams and also the rest of the
[2:02:05]
council's um support um the idea of
[2:02:09]
telecommunication
[2:02:11]
um update um you know or just the plan
[2:02:15]
for the future is it's is set in such a
[2:02:18]
way is a much better it facilitate much
[2:02:20]
better conversation uh rather than when
[2:02:22]
we have a project and then we have to
[2:02:25]
react to that. So compliment to the
[2:02:27]
staff and also to the council for doing
[2:02:29]
that.
[2:02:34]
» Thank you.
[2:02:37]
>> Uh next goal area was implement the
[2:02:39]
housing element and maintain compliance
[2:02:41]
with state requirements. So carrying
[2:02:44]
over the projects of Tobin Clark and
[2:02:46]
town hall uh with some uh proposed
[2:02:50]
milestones listed for each of those
[2:02:52]
projects. uh comprehensive general plan
[2:02:55]
update with that safety element and then
[2:02:57]
the housing element programs and fees
[2:03:00]
which is the nexus study and the
[2:03:02]
objective design standards that Liz
[2:03:04]
spoke about.
[2:03:07]
>> Um I have um some comments on the
[2:03:09]
section and it sounds like council
[2:03:11]
member uh Chuang also you may go first.
[2:03:14]
>> Yes, thank you. Um I uh again I I I want
[2:03:19]
to reiterate uh the importance of the
[2:03:22]
regular updates on um the Tobin Clark
[2:03:26]
project and also the town hall projects.
[2:03:28]
I know that there's a lot of discussions
[2:03:30]
behind the scene. I think that it would
[2:03:32]
be helpful to bring it to daylight so
[2:03:34]
that we have you know in the public
[2:03:37]
setting would be able to hear in terms
[2:03:39]
of the process in terms of the pathway
[2:03:42]
going forward. um because both of the uh
[2:03:46]
you know uh project requires large
[2:03:50]
effort from the staff um and you know
[2:03:53]
and then there's the funding mechanisms
[2:03:56]
that um we have spent some money on the
[2:03:58]
toben clark um but not on the town hall
[2:04:02]
um so just in terms of be mindful of the the dollar amount that we're going
[2:04:08]
to be spending on these projects I think
[2:04:10]
it's more critical for us to the current
[2:04:14]
in terms of the progress or if there are
[2:04:17]
any change of trajectory that we need to
[2:04:19]
know about um so that uh it's uh it's
[2:04:24]
transparent to the public and also for
[2:04:26]
um everyone to get involved and because
[2:04:28]
everyone has a stake in this
[2:04:30]
>> right and and I I concur with that with
[2:04:32]
those sentiments um just um for
[2:04:35]
clarification and correct me if I'm
[2:04:38]
wrong for the Tobin Clark project the
[2:04:42]
399,100
[2:04:43]
is the amount we discussed in October of
[2:04:46]
last year.
[2:04:48]
that was um and and this is where I was
[2:04:51]
trying to understand how the money is
[2:04:52]
moved that was moved into capital from
[2:04:55]
into capital projects from reserve
[2:04:58]
um to um basically meet the um the
[2:05:04]
request for the consultation which is
[2:05:07]
539 539,000
[2:05:11]
over I believe 41 months. It's it's a
[2:05:14]
project that goes until 2029,
[2:05:17]
I believe. So, in other words, this is
[2:05:20]
not additional funding. It's funding
[2:05:22]
that we discussed um in October, four
[2:05:25]
months ago. Is that correct?
[2:05:28]
>> The phase 1A and 1B was approved and
[2:05:31]
that was the the 144 and the 399 is for
[2:05:35]
the phase 2. So, because it would be in
[2:05:37]
fiscal year 2627 and it may extend
[2:05:40]
beyond that. So this is the additional
[2:05:43]
scope that was not already approved by
[2:05:45]
council. Um that would take place in
[2:05:47]
next fiscal year. Um so it's not
[2:05:49]
including what's already been committed.
[2:05:51]
>> But what was approved in October was a
[2:05:53]
total for in terms of the current budget
[2:05:56]
um for the consultants was 529. It
[2:06:00]
includes this 3.99. Is that correct?
[2:06:03]
>> Yeah. So Mandy's right. There was
[2:06:05]
originally a budget in professional
[2:06:08]
services for that first amount and that
[2:06:10]
additional amount the 399 that's what
[2:06:12]
was taken to council. Now they haven't
[2:06:14]
spent yet but we already put that
[2:06:16]
dedicated money as a transfer for that
[2:06:18]
project. So if they use it there isn't
[2:06:21]
an additional transfer or amendment
[2:06:22]
needed in 2627 but the spending might
[2:06:25]
occur in 2627.
[2:06:27]
>> Okay. So it's just reflecting when the
[2:06:29]
spending might occur. You're not asking
[2:06:31]
for additional to that October funding.
[2:06:34]
Okay, I just wanted a clarification on
[2:06:36]
that. And with regards to the town hall
[2:06:38]
project to be determined
[2:06:41]
um in 2020
[2:06:44]
um four I believe we approved 429,000
[2:06:50]
I'm sorry 424,000 something to that
[2:06:52]
effect. um 442 $442,700
[2:06:58]
and that is still in budget from and
[2:07:02]
this was in October of 2024. Correct. So
[2:07:07]
is that do we have any feedback in terms
[2:07:10]
of how much of that has been spent? What
[2:07:13]
percent what is the reserve out of that
[2:07:15]
if any?
[2:07:18]
Um, of that there's about 80 just over
[2:07:21]
$80,000 remaining and that gets us
[2:07:25]
through the end of phase one. And so the
[2:07:29]
contract with EHDD and red dot is to
[2:07:32]
bring is through the end of phase one
[2:07:35]
and then phase two would be determined
[2:07:37]
whether or not we wanted to enter into
[2:07:39]
another contract with them or do an RFP
[2:07:41]
for a new consultant to partner with. on
[2:07:44]
phase two.
[2:07:47]
>> It was my understanding that that 442700
[2:07:50]
was for phase one and two. That was what
[2:07:52]
was presented in October of 2024.
[2:07:57]
Is that not correct?
[2:08:00]
I I would have to look back um at
[2:08:02]
exactly the details of what we were
[2:08:04]
calling phase one and phase two, but um
[2:08:07]
perhaps it's that it was phase one and
[2:08:09]
phase two and then this would be for for
[2:08:11]
phase three. But what their contract
[2:08:13]
included was uh coming up with a master
[2:08:17]
plan, a master site plan with site
[2:08:19]
adjacencies, determining the
[2:08:21]
feasibility, how to accommodate our
[2:08:23]
parking needs. So the remaining budget
[2:08:25]
will cover that. What wasn't concluded
[2:08:29]
is the next phase which would be
[2:08:32]
construction documents and actually
[2:08:34]
going into the design development.
[2:08:36]
>> Okay. So according to the documents from
[2:08:38]
October of 2024,
[2:08:41]
the amount that was authorized in that
[2:08:43]
resolution was for phase one and phase
[2:08:45]
two which took us through the master
[2:08:47]
planning. I'm sorry. So it's probably
[2:08:48]
phase three that we're talking about
[2:08:50]
going forward.
[2:08:51]
>> Yes. I apologize for the question. that
[2:08:52]
amount does include the master planning
[2:08:55]
um because that's what was outlined.
[2:08:57]
>> Yes, that just gets us up through the
[2:08:58]
end of coming up with a master plan and
[2:09:01]
then concludes at um a natural break
[2:09:04]
point where we would then decide what to
[2:09:06]
do about the design, development and
[2:09:09]
construction documents.
[2:09:11]
>> Okay. Okay. And and just let me just go
[2:09:12]
back slightly on Tobin Clark. That
[2:09:15]
amount that was approved um October of
[2:09:18]
last year, which is four months ago for
[2:09:21]
um 539 100, that was for phase one and
[2:09:27]
two, correct? I mean, that's what the
[2:09:29]
agenda package stated back then.
[2:09:34]
It included the master plan for phase
[2:09:36]
one and two.
[2:09:41]
and and and I'm I didn't mean to stump
[2:09:43]
you. I just felt like these are such big
[2:09:45]
numbers that we need to be clear and so
[2:09:48]
does the public in terms of what we're
[2:09:51]
paying for and um these are huge numbers
[2:09:54]
and also to clarify to the residents and I think it's all in there. I'm just restating this such that when
[2:10:01]
>> residents reach out to us instead asking
[2:10:03]
questions we are clear we're all
[2:10:05]
speaking the same language. Yeah.
[2:10:06]
>> Yes. So what was included in the
[2:10:10]
previously approved budget was for phase
[2:10:13]
1A which is the due diligence and phase
[2:10:16]
1B which is the preliminary master plan
[2:10:19]
and then for Tobin Clark the phase 2
[2:10:21]
master plan is the scope that would
[2:10:23]
return to council for that additional
[2:10:26]
amount that has been set aside.
[2:10:35]
I I think we'll need I would need more
[2:10:38]
clarification on that. Looking back at
[2:10:40]
that agenda package and what was
[2:10:42]
written. Um
[2:10:44]
it was my understanding that that budget
[2:10:47]
included phase one and two and this
[2:10:51]
project is estimated to go through 2029.
[2:10:54]
If there is a change that I'm not aware
[2:10:56]
of, it would be good to clarify that
[2:10:59]
>> just not just for the council but for
[2:11:01]
the residents as well.
[2:11:02]
>> Yes, we can clarify that.
[2:11:04]
>> Okay, great. Um I think
[2:11:12]
um those are my questions for now on
[2:11:14]
those um two. Well, one one quick
[2:11:16]
question I have on the um sort of going
[2:11:19]
back to item A. I'm sorry about this. Um
[2:11:22]
I didn't ask the question earlier
[2:11:25]
regarding the implementation of incar
[2:11:27]
video cameras. Is that for um the police
[2:11:31]
officers vehicles in car videos? Is that
[2:11:34]
the camera we're talking about?
[2:11:36]
>> Yes, that's correct. And it's going to
[2:11:37]
be from Axon, which is an existing
[2:11:39]
company we already work with with our
[2:11:41]
bodywn cameras. And what this camera
[2:11:44]
system is, it's a
[2:11:46]
it's got four total cameras inside the
[2:11:49]
vehicle. The the front facing is a dual
[2:11:52]
paint. They call it a dual view, which
[2:11:54]
is like a panoramic view, which also has
[2:11:57]
the capability of an ALPR, a license
[2:12:01]
plate reader. Uh, but that's an
[2:12:03]
additional cost. The original just comes
[2:12:05]
with the dual pane. It also has two side
[2:12:08]
view cameras and one camera back on the prisoner.
[2:12:13]
It's beneficial. Re reduces liability
[2:12:17]
for the town and it also uh protects the
[2:12:20]
officers with uh false allegations.
[2:12:24]
>> Right. Right. Thanks for that
[2:12:26]
clarification. Um any additional um
[2:12:29]
questions on item A and B from the
[2:12:32]
council?
[2:12:37]
Seeing none and no uh well we haven't
[2:12:39]
gone to public comment yet. Um you may
[2:12:41]
proceed. I'm sorry. Thanks Mandy.
[2:12:44]
>> Uh thank you. And uh goal C uh remains
[2:12:48]
unchanged. enhance quality of life with
[2:12:50]
the some of the returning key projects
[2:12:52]
being the code enforcement um with
[2:12:55]
specific milestones related to the code
[2:12:57]
enforcement position um and activities
[2:13:00]
execution of the 40 Baywood agreement
[2:13:02]
and working towards operations. So
[2:13:05]
including that financial analysis to
[2:13:06]
determine the operational and facility
[2:13:08]
needs revenue potential. Um
[2:13:12]
the next one is formalizing the town's
[2:13:14]
role and partnership in the annual
[2:13:16]
Memorial Day parade. Um being able to
[2:13:19]
support the parade in any negative fund
[2:13:22]
balance. Looking at studying the
[2:13:25]
feasibility of establishing a foundation
[2:13:26]
either independent or under the town to
[2:13:29]
support fundraising efforts um to allow
[2:13:32]
um tax deductions um for donors to the
[2:13:35]
parade um and any other fundraising
[2:13:37]
efforts. and then uh delineating the
[2:13:40]
process and roles for the vendor
[2:13:42]
agreements uh really with our risk
[2:13:44]
management JPA make sure that they're in
[2:13:46]
accordance um with our the town's
[2:13:49]
policies
[2:13:51]
and the last one is the update the
[2:13:52]
climate action plan and this can be
[2:13:54]
dovetailed with some of those efforts in
[2:13:56]
the safety element that Liz was
[2:13:58]
referring to um but our climate action
[2:14:00]
plan is from 2010 and the youth
[2:14:03]
commission is very interested in
[2:14:05]
supporting and uh being engaged in
[2:14:08]
leading this effort. We've also had um a
[2:14:10]
few members of the public ask to be
[2:14:12]
involved in some stakeholder group um
[2:14:15]
once this process is brought forward. So
[2:14:18]
um looking to coordinate that with the
[2:14:20]
building and planning assessments that
[2:14:21]
would be be done.
[2:14:25]
>> Um question um Council Member Krick.
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>> Uh yeah, thank you so much Mandy for all
[2:14:31]
of this. I just wanted to um
[2:14:34]
just shine some light a little bit on
[2:14:36]
this um 501c3 idea which is number two
[2:14:40]
under the parade. Um and in uh what we
[2:14:44]
have been doing uh we've been pushing
[2:14:49]
not pushing but we've been using HBF for
[2:14:52]
some foundations to the parade because
[2:14:54]
they have a 501c3 status and then
[2:14:57]
they've been giving money to the parade.
[2:15:00]
But um when they were audited that it it
[2:15:03]
causes problems with their audit. So HBF
[2:15:06]
is not opposed to our starting some kind
[2:15:10]
of Hillsboro Community Foundation. Um
[2:15:13]
which is one reason why we sort of
[2:15:16]
stayed away from doing that when we
[2:15:17]
established the parade is because we
[2:15:19]
didn't want to get an HBF lane or HSF's
[2:15:21]
lane by creating HCF. But now it looks
[2:15:25]
like we're at the point that we've got a
[2:15:27]
couple different things that could
[2:15:28]
benefit from a community fund and
[2:15:30]
hopefully residents that well we do know
[2:15:33]
that there are residents who are willing
[2:15:34]
to donate for both the parade um
[2:15:38]
potentially 40 Baywood and potentially
[2:15:40]
for the town hall project for some kind
[2:15:42]
of community room that it would be very
[2:15:44]
useful for us to have a an entity where
[2:15:48]
the town um and and Mandy is looking
[2:15:51]
into this. That's why there's a figure
[2:15:53]
associated with this because it would
[2:15:55]
probably um it it we'd need to hire a
[2:15:58]
consultant to look into it and to help
[2:16:00]
us set it up. But I think it it could be
[2:16:03]
something that would be very beneficial
[2:16:04]
for all these different things.
[2:16:09]
>> Um I thanks for that clarification. I
[2:16:12]
actually have a question. Um and it's
[2:16:15]
more of a legal question for our city
[2:16:16]
attorney.
[2:16:18]
How what are the legal parameters around
[2:16:22]
the town itself or the city council or
[2:16:25]
whatever can form a 501c because I the
[2:16:29]
last time this subject came up on the
[2:16:30]
day a couple of residents reached out to
[2:16:32]
me and said implied we didn't know what
[2:16:35]
we're talking about so please clarify.
[2:16:37]
No, we are aware of cities. Oh, thank
[2:16:39]
you for the question, number one. And
[2:16:40]
number two, yes, we are aware of cities
[2:16:42]
that have established nonprofits. Um,
[2:16:44]
used them for a variety of fundraising
[2:16:46]
mechanisms. Um, but it is something
[2:16:48]
we've helped cities establish in the
[2:16:49]
past. And so, it is something that the
[2:16:51]
town can do. Um, we'd want to look at
[2:16:53]
what the uses would be and make sure
[2:16:54]
it's consistent with nonprofit law. Um,
[2:16:56]
but yes, we'd help you with all the
[2:16:58]
documentation to establish that.
[2:16:59]
>> So, but it does sound like it's
[2:17:01]
possible. It's just a matter of
[2:17:02]
structuring it within the legal
[2:17:04]
constraints. Got you. Thank you.
[2:17:05]
Appreciate that. Thanks. Thanks for
[2:17:07]
those thoughts. Um, Council Member
[2:17:09]
Adams.
[2:17:09]
>> Yeah, along those lines, that those were
[2:17:11]
my questions. The other question is, um,
[2:17:15]
it takes a while to do a 501c3. We may
[2:17:18]
not need a 501c3. We may need something
[2:17:21]
else, but uh, I think they have to be
[2:17:24]
really careful about mission mission
[2:17:26]
creep can, especially when we start
[2:17:28]
talking about all the other things that
[2:17:30]
this could accept money for. And what we
[2:17:33]
don't want is people solicited for
[2:17:35]
donations in advance of projects that
[2:17:38]
we've already uh approved because that
[2:17:41]
can really complicate things as well.
[2:17:43]
And uh so I think it's tricky uh because
[2:17:47]
yes, it doesn't compete with other uh
[2:17:50]
501c3s that we have in town, but it
[2:17:53]
does. So, I think we need to talk about
[2:17:56]
it uh carefully, but I'm just not clear
[2:18:01]
about what our relationship is right now
[2:18:03]
with the parade. Let's just stick with
[2:18:06]
the parade because I haven't been
[2:18:07]
involved in the, you know, the mechanics
[2:18:10]
and the administration of it. What is
[2:18:12]
our relationship? because I know that
[2:18:15]
council members get involved in
[2:18:18]
orchestrating it, but there are also
[2:18:20]
chairs that run it and the finance for
[2:18:24]
it. I assume we do some inind donations
[2:18:28]
of all kinds of things uh protection and
[2:18:32]
security forces and participation and I
[2:18:36]
do hear that there's a little issue
[2:18:38]
around uh liability and insurance. So,
[2:18:42]
can we just um get a clear definition of
[2:18:45]
our current relationship and the
[2:18:47]
problems that we're trying to solve?
[2:18:49]
>> Sure. And I'll I'll speak to some of the
[2:18:51]
issues you spoke about and I think
[2:18:53]
Council Member Kroll's probably most
[2:18:55]
qualified to speak on some of the other
[2:18:56]
issues there with relation to the to the
[2:19:00]
finance of it. It's, you know, it's
[2:19:01]
always been a a town supported event. It
[2:19:03]
is probably our biggest event uh since
[2:19:06]
Concourse is now out of town and we have
[2:19:08]
the parade every year. So I think it's
[2:19:09]
an sort of our signature thing. It
[2:19:12]
started out as a centennial parade and
[2:19:14]
then was uh very very popular and has
[2:19:16]
evolved to to where it's at now. On some
[2:19:19]
of the issues with the as you were
[2:19:20]
discussing the liability, a lot of that
[2:19:22]
is just timing um and working with our
[2:19:25]
volunteers to make sure they understand
[2:19:27]
that some of the liability requirements
[2:19:31]
um that are there are sometimes a bit
[2:19:34]
arduous for an average vendor. So, a
[2:19:36]
vendor who may be used to showing up to
[2:19:39]
like a popup market or a street fair
[2:19:41]
where they're they're selling their
[2:19:43]
foods or or items that are happening
[2:19:45]
there, when it comes here to our city
[2:19:47]
and we're using it as a city event, our
[2:19:50]
insurers are looking for a much higher
[2:19:52]
coverage than most of them carry. So, a
[2:19:54]
lot of that is just us working with
[2:19:56]
those vendors to make sure that they are
[2:19:58]
one willing to carry that insurance and
[2:20:01]
then also that they have that in place.
[2:20:02]
And I think us being involved in a more
[2:20:04]
formal matter as the city helps relieve
[2:20:07]
some of that burden from the volunteers.
[2:20:09]
are really there for exactly
[2:20:11]
what they do. And the parade doesn't
[2:20:13]
happen without the volunteers. And it's
[2:20:15]
their creativity that makes it such a
[2:20:17]
great event. They I don't know if that
[2:20:19]
was if staff was told, hey, we need you
[2:20:22]
to find these drivers and cars and
[2:20:24]
things like that. We just don't that
[2:20:26]
wouldn't be within our wheelhouse
[2:20:27]
compared to how good a job the
[2:20:28]
volunteers do. So, it'll always be an
[2:20:31]
amalgamation between this volunteer
[2:20:33]
group and the city. And I think what
[2:20:34]
this is looking to do is take some of
[2:20:36]
that burden off of the volunteers and
[2:20:39]
the the $5,000 amount that's listed up
[2:20:41]
there. That's just sort of a running uh
[2:20:44]
balance that we have over the years with
[2:20:46]
the parade. Uh and we think that that
[2:20:49]
dollar amount right there is kind of
[2:20:50]
sufficient to shure up some of the
[2:20:52]
financial shortcomings there. And of
[2:20:54]
course, all the the staff hours and that
[2:20:55]
kind of stuff is somewhat embedded.
[2:20:57]
that's within our cost of doing business
[2:20:58]
on a day-to-day uh basis. Um, and we've
[2:21:02]
always gotten amazing help from our our
[2:21:04]
allies around the county who come in and
[2:21:06]
help, particularly the police academy
[2:21:08]
and other police agencies that we've
[2:21:10]
used as well. We pay them back, of
[2:21:12]
course, every time they have a big
[2:21:13]
event. Our Hillsboro officers go to
[2:21:15]
their cities to do it like kind pay. So
[2:21:18]
this part about the liability and the
[2:21:21]
insurance and the financing part of it,
[2:21:23]
I think this just helps formalize it
[2:21:25]
because you got to remember this group's
[2:21:26]
been running for a very long time with
[2:21:29]
just people who know each other, right?
[2:21:30]
We're and and so we're looking to sort
[2:21:32]
of formalize that so that the next
[2:21:34]
generation uh coming through and running
[2:21:37]
this parade when myself and people
[2:21:39]
who've worked on it for so long are no
[2:21:41]
longer here that they have a good
[2:21:42]
framework to move forward. And I'll let
[2:21:44]
Miss Kwick speak on the rest.
[2:21:46]
>> Yeah. and and council member Chong could
[2:21:48]
do about the history of it. But the city
[2:21:49]
manager, right, it started in 2010 to
[2:21:52]
celebrate our centennial and it was such
[2:21:55]
a popular event that residents came to
[2:21:57]
us and said, can we do this again and we
[2:21:59]
will help. So, um it could not be done
[2:22:02]
without the support of HPD and public
[2:22:05]
works and and for fortunately for the
[2:22:08]
town I think because I think it's a
[2:22:10]
great community building event and now
[2:22:13]
we have children who come up and say,
[2:22:14]
"Mrs. acrylic. I grew up with this
[2:22:15]
parade. Um and uh when the concore left,
[2:22:19]
one aspect of the conc was this carnival
[2:22:22]
that we had every year. So now the
[2:22:23]
parade has taken that on. Um and and the
[2:22:27]
support of the city manager's office,
[2:22:28]
too. So from the very beginning, we were
[2:22:30]
really lucky. We had the support of the
[2:22:32]
city manager, the police chief, and the
[2:22:34]
public works director. And without that
[2:22:36]
triumvirate, I don't think we could have
[2:22:38]
continued. And then the volunteer part
[2:22:40]
of it is we the volunteers um take care
[2:22:44]
of the logistics and we have been
[2:22:46]
quietly fundraising. We've have kind of
[2:22:49]
a friends of the parade committee and we
[2:22:51]
quietly send them a letter every year
[2:22:53]
and they have underwritten the stage,
[2:22:56]
the sound system, the carnival, um you
[2:23:00]
know those different logistical things.
[2:23:02]
But in the past three years, I think
[2:23:04]
we've run a $5,000 deficit three years
[2:23:07]
in a row from what we've quietly
[2:23:09]
collected and what it's actually cost
[2:23:11]
because the costs particularly of the
[2:23:13]
sound system and the stage keep going
[2:23:15]
up. But the volunteers bring uh one is
[2:23:18]
in charge of the food trucks and the
[2:23:19]
food trucks don't cost us anything and
[2:23:22]
we don't pay them anything and they
[2:23:23]
don't pay us anything. They just come,
[2:23:25]
they sell. So, it's kind of a win-win.
[2:23:27]
Somebody's in charge of the carnival and
[2:23:29]
we usually we hire a um we hire a
[2:23:33]
company that brings in the games.
[2:23:34]
Somebody's in charge of of um recruiting
[2:23:38]
all of the convertibles. Somebody uh
[2:23:41]
Leslie has been in charge of recruiting
[2:23:43]
the dignitaries to ride in the
[2:23:45]
convertibles. We have a committee that
[2:23:47]
reaches out to sports teams, scouts,
[2:23:51]
schools, community, uh, service
[2:23:54]
organizations to ask them to be to
[2:23:58]
participate. And then, uh, Council
[2:24:00]
Member Trang has overseen the observance
[2:24:03]
ceremony part of it. Um, and then Julie
[2:24:06]
Bordon, who's the chair, is really the
[2:24:08]
logistics chair. She works with Wreck.
[2:24:10]
underwrites the portaotties, which
[2:24:12]
is nice. um and and she oversees kind of
[2:24:15]
the setup of the field and and um the
[2:24:18]
cable cars that uh are shuttle people
[2:24:21]
from parking to the site and that also
[2:24:24]
carry the kids in the parade. So, it's a Oh, and then we have uh
[2:24:30]
volunteers who oversee the community
[2:24:32]
music festival. They sign up all of the
[2:24:34]
acts and they make sure that that all
[2:24:36]
runs really well. Anything that I'm
[2:24:38]
leaving out? So, so it's definitely a
[2:24:40]
partnership and now it's been in
[2:24:42]
existence for, you know, going on 16
[2:24:45]
years and um and that's kind of how it
[2:24:47]
works, but it it it we have never uh
[2:24:52]
solicited kind of corporate
[2:24:55]
underwriting. And now I think we're at
[2:24:57]
the point where we could do that, but we
[2:24:59]
would need a 501c3 or some kind of
[2:25:02]
entity that realtors and banks and, you
[2:25:06]
know, different corporations could
[2:25:07]
possibly give to. We would need that,
[2:25:10]
right? Well, I think based on what you
[2:25:12]
just said, I mean, what I enjoy
[2:25:13]
listening to is just the um sort of um
[2:25:18]
groundwork. Basically, it's a community
[2:25:20]
event and all the volunteers who step up
[2:25:23]
and um keeping it at that level is just
[2:25:26]
really wonderful, but of course
[2:25:27]
offsetting the costs such that we're not
[2:25:29]
running a deficit on it. And I think if
[2:25:32]
we were to partner it with the as you
[2:25:34]
mentioned the Baywood and town hall, we
[2:25:36]
will need to do financial analysis of
[2:25:38]
both of those entities. Um we'll need to
[2:25:41]
do financial analysis of both of those
[2:25:42]
entities so we know what is the scope of
[2:25:44]
the amount of money we're talking about.
[2:25:46]
you already outlined what's necessary
[2:25:48]
for the parade which sounds fairly
[2:25:50]
nominal as we decide how to move forward
[2:25:52]
with the 501c. So it sounds like the in
[2:25:55]
on this section at least the key issue
[2:25:58]
is
[2:25:59]
what do we want to be included in this
[2:26:01]
501c for solicitation
[2:26:03]
doing the financial analysis for those
[2:26:05]
two big other Baywood and town hall and
[2:26:09]
even with town hall figuring out how
[2:26:10]
much of that we want to solicit for and
[2:26:12]
what we cannot solicit for etc and then
[2:26:15]
making the decision about a 501c do my
[2:26:18]
colleagues want to add anything else to
[2:26:20]
that
[2:26:20]
>> well there will be u there will be
[2:26:23]
financial implic applications with the
[2:26:25]
501c3 and forming a nine, you know,
[2:26:28]
their 990 annually. So, the audits that
[2:26:31]
would be necessary, I I'm not sure who
[2:26:34]
this 501c3 would be managed by the
[2:26:37]
board. So, I guess you're working on
[2:26:39]
looking at ways to do this. Okay. Okay.
[2:26:41]
Thank you.
[2:26:42]
>> Great. Thank you.
[2:26:43]
>> All right. Yes.
[2:26:45]
>> Thank you. Um I I thought that city
[2:26:48]
managers and uh council member Corle uh
[2:26:51]
summarized it very well in terms of the
[2:26:53]
scope and the depth of uh the Memorial
[2:26:55]
Day parade. Um I and and the events that come with. Um I I do want to uh uh
[2:27:03]
sort of I I I see the sort of the uh
[2:27:07]
evolutions as to we we could use a
[2:27:10]
better funding, we could use a better
[2:27:11]
management of risk management and all
[2:27:14]
that encompassing and so the discussion
[2:27:16]
is about the 501c3
[2:27:18]
uh or some types of that 501c. Um, I do
[2:27:23]
want to suggest that all these other
[2:27:27]
cities, either through their chambers of
[2:27:30]
commerce or through their um, recrecks
[2:27:34]
and parks departments have uh, continue
[2:27:38]
to also work on many of those community
[2:27:41]
events at different levels. And I wonder
[2:27:44]
if we want to uh at least find out what
[2:27:49]
are the best practices out there for
[2:27:51]
supporting all these community events in
[2:27:53]
our town. The Memorial Day parade and
[2:27:55]
the music festival and the carnival that
[2:27:58]
come with uh is one of the best events
[2:28:01]
in terms of
[2:28:03]
uh bringing the community uh together,
[2:28:07]
you know, young and old and it just
[2:28:09]
all-encompassing. And so it is wonderful
[2:28:12]
and to the extent that we want to
[2:28:13]
sustain that so the operation is
[2:28:16]
smoothly um is admirable and is actually
[2:28:19]
worth considerations. I'm just saying
[2:28:21]
that 501c3 may not be the only
[2:28:25]
direction that we're go looking at.
[2:28:27]
There may be other um ways that we can
[2:28:31]
help support the event successfully and
[2:28:35]
you know financially sound. So I would
[2:28:37]
implore that we also explore on those
[2:28:40]
area. I I also caution the area of
[2:28:43]
looking at the 40 bay woods and and all
[2:28:46]
the other um and also the town complex
[2:28:49]
in that same scope because again I I
[2:28:52]
think that the residents may have a
[2:28:53]
different perspective as to what belongs
[2:28:56]
to the town, what is their tax dollars
[2:29:00]
go to and what are the nonprofit
[2:29:02]
consider. So with that in mind, I think
[2:29:05]
that we want to consider not just
[2:29:08]
focusing on the 501c, but also the other
[2:29:11]
options that may come through
[2:29:13]
>> and we can perhaps have a more in-depth
[2:29:15]
discussion on funding for these issues
[2:29:17]
and have open up some study group of
[2:29:19]
some sort. Okay, sounds good. We can
[2:29:21]
move. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Vice Mayor
[2:29:22]
Rexdale.
[2:29:24]
>> Or other issue. Okay, go ahead. You may.
[2:29:26]
Yeah. um on on this issue. I I
[2:29:30]
appreciate everything that's been
[2:29:31]
brought up and and hope that all of
[2:29:33]
those things are um looked into with
[2:29:35]
501c3 or otherwise and um great
[2:29:39]
expertise on um on council and obviously
[2:29:43]
with BBK. So I think we're we're in good
[2:29:45]
hands to figure out the all of all of
[2:29:47]
these things. Um I just had a few things
[2:29:51]
to potentially add. Um two are um I mean
[2:29:56]
things that I think we are working on
[2:29:58]
but to our quality of life but also
[2:30:00]
safety. One is um ebike education and
[2:30:05]
enforcement. Um I know we're working on
[2:30:07]
that. Great partnership between HPD and
[2:30:10]
the schools and and we had the fantastic
[2:30:12]
presentation last month um by assistant
[2:30:15]
city manager. I just want to make sure
[2:30:16]
we capture that as something we're
[2:30:19]
working on. Um, and then something that
[2:30:22]
I know we've been contacted about as
[2:30:24]
council is the um cancer rates in town
[2:30:28]
among the um kids. Uh, which may or may
[2:30:32]
not be related to pesticides or maybe
[2:30:35]
something else, maybe coincidence, maybe
[2:30:37]
not. Um, so just something to um to keep
[2:30:41]
in mind and especially in terms of
[2:30:45]
recommending that people don't use
[2:30:48]
pesticides
[2:30:49]
um uh just like we don't in town. Um
[2:30:54]
and then uh the last thing is uh back to
[2:30:58]
quality of just quality of life. Um, we
[2:31:01]
had been talking about our our
[2:31:03]
subcommittee with the ordinance
[2:31:04]
revisions for events and also um,
[2:31:08]
business licenses. I just want to make
[2:31:10]
sure we have that um, captured. I know
[2:31:12]
we're still working on it. Thank you.
[2:31:14]
>> Okay. Um, so on item we're moving to
[2:31:17]
item D. Is that correct, Mandy?
[2:31:20]
>> Oh, are we done with item C?
[2:31:22]
>> Through the mayor, if I may, I just
[2:31:23]
wanted to offer additional clarification
[2:31:25]
about the toen clerk topic. You are
[2:31:27]
absolutely correct that the agreement
[2:31:29]
approved in October fully encompassed
[2:31:32]
phase one and phase two. I think the
[2:31:34]
part that I was making confusing is that
[2:31:37]
there was language added to the
[2:31:39]
agreement um to clarify that the
[2:31:42]
consultant wouldn't move on to phase two
[2:31:45]
without first coming back to the council
[2:31:47]
to present phase one and the council
[2:31:49]
authorizing them to move forward. But
[2:31:51]
the agreement fully encompassed those
[2:31:53]
phases. So I apologize for the
[2:31:55]
confusion.
[2:31:55]
>> Okay. Thank you for that clarification.
[2:31:57]
Okay. Um
[2:32:00]
we can proceed to item D, ensure
[2:32:03]
long-term financial security.
[2:32:05]
>> Yes. Thank you.
[2:32:08]
» So none of this is possible without the
[2:32:11]
long-term financial security. Um
[2:32:13]
beginning with the implementation of the
[2:32:14]
water and sewer rates and this outlines
[2:32:16]
that 218 process.
[2:32:20]
The second key project is the
[2:32:21]
implementing the recommendations from
[2:32:23]
the long-term financial funding which
[2:32:24]
Jan um went over regarding the building
[2:32:27]
and planning fee study, the tax polling
[2:32:30]
measure process, and then the general
[2:32:32]
fund policies um to support replenishing
[2:32:35]
reserves um and making sure that the
[2:32:38]
town stays in good financial footing
[2:32:40]
moving forward.
[2:32:41]
The third key project is implementing
[2:32:44]
systems, processes, and training. So not
[2:32:46]
only for the town but also also for
[2:32:48]
CCFD. Uh this represents a very large
[2:32:51]
amount as you can see on the chart.
[2:32:53]
Amount of staff time is um actually we
[2:32:57]
had the town has just rolled out their
[2:32:59]
own financial system so they know how hard it is and they get to relive it
[2:33:04]
for a second time um with CCFD. Um and
[2:33:07]
so knowing what is coming forward and how much staff time that takes um
[2:33:11]
that that will be coming forth and it's
[2:33:13]
really something that yes we need to do
[2:33:16]
um but it is going to take a lot of
[2:33:18]
staff effort and so being mindful of
[2:33:20]
that um that t tax on finance staff um
[2:33:24]
as we move forward throughout the other
[2:33:26]
goals that that may rely on their
[2:33:28]
expertise as well.
[2:33:32]
Um before before we move on to um I'm
[2:33:37]
sorry, are you done with item D in terms
[2:33:39]
of the presentation? Yes. Okay. Um I I
[2:33:42]
do have several questions and what you
[2:33:44]
just finished off on. So I will ask my
[2:33:46]
questions um now um regarding the
[2:33:52]
CCFD financial system implementation.
[2:33:56]
It says the system is paid for by CCFD
[2:33:59]
and the town staff time to implement.
[2:34:03]
Could you just clarify what that means?
[2:34:09]
So, Central County Fire Department is a
[2:34:12]
completely separate financial entity and
[2:34:15]
the town finance staff uh manages the
[2:34:19]
overall finances for uh Central County
[2:34:23]
Fire on a fee for service basis.
[2:34:25]
basically. Um, and so right now we do
[2:34:28]
our core work which is all the
[2:34:30]
accounting, the ACT for the audit,
[2:34:34]
supporting the budget process, making
[2:34:36]
sure the policies are in place. So kind
[2:34:37]
of the standard, you know, everyday
[2:34:40]
things. And then in addition to that,
[2:34:43]
the Central County Fire Department
[2:34:45]
financial system provider is sunsetting
[2:34:48]
that system as of December. And so we
[2:34:51]
are faced with needing to replace that
[2:34:54]
system. So, Central County Fire
[2:34:57]
Department, it's their financial
[2:34:59]
responsibility to buy that system, but
[2:35:02]
it's the town finance staff
[2:35:05]
responsibility
[2:35:06]
to select that system, going through an
[2:35:09]
RFP, doing the due diligence, um,
[2:35:13]
putting together the agreement. um that
[2:35:16]
becomes the software for service
[2:35:18]
agreement and then implementing that so
[2:35:21]
that it's a live general ledger accounts
[2:35:23]
payable accounts receivable system that
[2:35:26]
will be used starting in roughly
[2:35:28]
sometime between January and April of
[2:35:31]
next year. So it's town finance staff uh
[2:35:35]
primarily rich and my time.
[2:35:38]
>> Will it require additional time
[2:35:40]
overtime? Uh I mean what what would be
[2:35:43]
the impact financially on finance
[2:35:45]
department from a time hours cost
[2:35:49]
perspective?
[2:35:50]
>> It's absorbed within our time. So it
[2:35:53]
just uh to what Mandy was saying it just
[2:35:55]
is additional time on our plate.
[2:36:00]
>> Is there is there the possibility of us
[2:36:02]
recouping the cost of that from CCFD's
[2:36:05]
budget? Well, I think as I mentioned
[2:36:08]
earlier, uh we are currently with a an
[2:36:10]
RFP, I believe it's with Matrix is the
[2:36:13]
name of the company that's doing not
[2:36:14]
only review of the governance of CCFD,
[2:36:17]
uh but we'll also be looking into the
[2:36:18]
cost sharing portion of it. And I know
[2:36:20]
right now um that our finance department
[2:36:24]
uh is having increasing amount of work
[2:36:27]
being asked for them to do especially
[2:36:28]
during anou year when we were
[2:36:30]
negotiating with them and now with this
[2:36:32]
new implementation I believe it 77,000 a
[2:36:36]
year or whatever uh we get from CCFD uh
[2:36:40]
doesn't come close to covering that that
[2:36:42]
staff's time. So I think that'll be uh
[2:36:45]
looked at as we move forward. And also
[2:36:46]
if C if there is a governance change in
[2:36:48]
CCFD then they they should have a do it
[2:36:51]
with uh eyes wide open on what the
[2:36:55]
aspect of that might be for them
[2:36:56]
handling their own finances. Um, so I
[2:36:59]
think all those things are going to kind
[2:37:00]
of be looked at and I will say that uh
[2:37:02]
in working with Chief Pooie uh he is
[2:37:05]
very aware and dealing with our our
[2:37:07]
partners over in Berlingame all parties
[2:37:09]
are aware that the the what is being
[2:37:11]
asked of Hillsboro finance is beyond uh
[2:37:14]
what they're being compensated for. So
[2:37:16]
at the end of this study, if everything
[2:37:18]
were to stay the same, I think all
[2:37:20]
parties are in agreement that there
[2:37:21]
would be a greater uh fiscal
[2:37:24]
contribution uh towards uh Hillsboro for
[2:37:27]
the financial services they're providing
[2:37:29]
for the overtime of uh Jan and Rich if
[2:37:32]
they got overtime, which they don't. But
[2:37:35]
it is quite a bit of work that they're
[2:37:37]
putting into that. So it it's not
[2:37:39]
something that goes unnoticed by us. And
[2:37:41]
I think even our partners are saying
[2:37:42]
like what we're asking finance to do is
[2:37:44]
really more than we're paying them to
[2:37:46]
do. So trying to shear that up.
[2:37:48]
>> Yeah. Is it something that you envision
[2:37:50]
potentially even needing a part-time
[2:37:52]
like half FTE staff to help you do if
[2:37:56]
you're not able to execute it and carry
[2:37:58]
out your main work obligations?
[2:38:03]
» Potentially.
[2:38:04]
>> We will contemplate that if it's needed.
[2:38:06]
Um, but we're
[2:38:09]
freshly off of the town finance system
[2:38:12]
implementation, so we're very dialed in
[2:38:14]
on how to do this. So, we will be as
[2:38:16]
efficient as we can be
[2:38:18]
>> and we'll leverage whatever resources we
[2:38:20]
can from CCFD.
[2:38:22]
>> Um, and if if something else is needed,
[2:38:25]
we'll we'll let you know.
[2:38:26]
>> Well, thank you. It's very important
[2:38:28]
work and thanks again for all the work
[2:38:30]
you've been doing. Just a reminder based
[2:38:31]
on the funding currently of the the way
[2:38:33]
the JPA works if we do bring on
[2:38:35]
additional staff or additional items
[2:38:37]
again that's a portion of that is also
[2:38:40]
absorbed by us
[2:38:41]
>> right as a town entity. Um so it's kind
[2:38:44]
of something you have to get an
[2:38:45]
agreement with all your partner cities
[2:38:47]
and then present to the fire board. Um,
[2:38:49]
and this is one of those issues where I
[2:38:51]
when I do speak to the fire board, it's
[2:38:53]
one that the fire board needs to be very
[2:38:56]
well aware of so that they can bring
[2:38:58]
back to their respective councils
[2:38:59]
because it is a decision that affects
[2:39:01]
the finance of whatever city uh the fire
[2:39:04]
board members are on if that makes
[2:39:05]
sense.
[2:39:06]
>> Correct. Yeah. Thank you. Any additional
[2:39:08]
questions from the council?
[2:39:10]
>> Yes. Um, council member Tron,
[2:39:12]
>> uh, I I just want to add another flavor
[2:39:14]
to it and that is the whole idea of the
[2:39:17]
fire services being merged by Berling
[2:39:19]
game and Hillsboro is exactly because
[2:39:22]
there's a share cost that we can reduce
[2:39:25]
and and so in this case we have the
[2:39:28]
financing instead of uh the from the
[2:39:31]
Berling game or her Hillsboro or
[2:39:34]
additional creating another finance
[2:39:36]
departments for central county. I think
[2:39:38]
that in this case um you know we have
[2:39:42]
Hillsboro finance department to thank
[2:39:44]
for uh for Jan to spearhead it in that.
[2:39:48]
So that does cut down the cost. Uh that
[2:39:51]
being said I think that you also uh are
[2:39:53]
in a position a driving seats position
[2:39:55]
to select the type of system that is
[2:39:59]
going to be going into the
[2:40:00]
implementations at central county.
[2:40:02]
Correct. And that is much needed.
[2:40:04]
Correct.
[2:40:06]
>> Yes. All right. So I I I do think that
[2:40:09]
we we it it is a it is it is a JPA um
[2:40:14]
that we're collectively uh sharing some
[2:40:17]
of the positions to cut down the cost
[2:40:20]
but at the same time we also realize
[2:40:22]
that many of these are personnel and so
[2:40:24]
the cost is going to go up as we move
[2:40:27]
forward with it and so um I think that's where we're looking at uh in
[2:40:33]
terms of currently whether we'll need to
[2:40:35]
change the sort of the dynamic of the
[2:40:38]
three the two agencies ver I mean the
[2:40:42]
one agencies with Hillsboro Berling game
[2:40:44]
and then you know providing contractual
[2:40:46]
services to Milbury.
[2:40:51]
» Um yes council member Adams.
[2:40:53]
>> Uh thank you mayor madame mayor. Uh I
[2:40:55]
have a question about support tax
[2:40:58]
polling measure process and it may be
[2:41:01]
that uh because the status and notes are
[2:41:06]
written with pending results at the end
[2:41:09]
instead of at the beginning but uh we
[2:41:15]
have already approved the survey but are
[2:41:19]
you saying that we also need to approve
[2:41:23]
management of the consultant? I would
[2:41:25]
suspect we've already done that part.
[2:41:28]
And is the 122,900
[2:41:31]
in addition? Okay. Sorry.
[2:41:34]
>> No, sorry, that's a bit confusing.
[2:41:37]
That's what was already approved by
[2:41:38]
council.
[2:41:40]
>> Thank you.
[2:41:41]
>> Okay, seeing no additional comments from
[2:41:44]
the council, we'll move on to item E.
[2:41:51]
Okay. Um item E is uh similar language
[2:41:54]
improve transparency, efficiency and
[2:41:56]
customer service. And so this is
[2:41:58]
implement programs and software to
[2:42:00]
improve internal efficiencies. So this
[2:42:02]
is the agenda management system that
[2:42:04]
city clerk Lucish spoke about. um the IT
[2:42:08]
strategic plan which um administrative
[2:42:10]
services manager William Lee can provide
[2:42:12]
specific detail um onto that effort, but
[2:42:15]
that's really getting at uh safeguarding
[2:42:17]
the town's systems um and and working
[2:42:21]
with our IT provider on rolling out some
[2:42:23]
of those key projects to protect to
[2:42:25]
protect us from uh losing power or
[2:42:28]
outages um and security moving forward.
[2:42:32]
Uh, one of the new new legislative um
[2:42:35]
requirements is that the town move from
[2:42:38]
A.NET to A.ca.gov
[2:42:42]
web domain. Um, so that requires
[2:42:45]
updating business cards. Um, our
[2:42:49]
website, town communications. Uh, the
[2:42:52]
fortunate thing is that everybody's
[2:42:54]
doing this. So, we're not alone. Every
[2:42:56]
town is making this this switch at one
[2:42:58]
time. And some have opted to go with
[2:43:00]
the.gov
[2:43:01]
Um, and we've gotten input from our CCAC
[2:43:04]
to dodo the.ca.gov.
[2:43:07]
Um, our office assistant Katie gets
[2:43:09]
calls about Hillsboro, Florida,
[2:43:10]
Hillsboro, Oregon. So, this will
[2:43:12]
hopefully help cut down on those those
[2:43:15]
calls um at public works and at town
[2:43:17]
hall. Um, and then implement that comm
[2:43:21]
uh building and planning permit
[2:43:23]
software. There's a lot of
[2:43:24]
configurations. There's a lot of things
[2:43:26]
that it can do. So really taking
[2:43:27]
advantage of that full suite of
[2:43:29]
offerings.
[2:43:30]
Uh the second project is reviewing the
[2:43:32]
city council handbook. So this is a
[2:43:35]
document that has been in existence I
[2:43:38]
think um Lisa found a version from 2006.
[2:43:41]
So it's been in place for um a long time
[2:43:45]
and it has documented current
[2:43:47]
procedures, some Brown Act information
[2:43:49]
that's been updated over the years uh
[2:43:52]
responsibilities for council members and
[2:43:54]
it's provided to new council members. uh
[2:43:57]
but it's never been formally adopted by
[2:43:59]
the city council. And so what we'd be
[2:44:01]
looking to do is look at that handbook,
[2:44:04]
see um what's in there. Um having a
[2:44:07]
discussion with the full council on
[2:44:09]
things like mayor rotation um and again
[2:44:13]
the roles and responsibilities. And it
[2:44:15]
could also be helpful for prospective
[2:44:17]
council members looking at um whether or
[2:44:20]
not they want to run to see what what
[2:44:22]
they'd be signing up for um and have
[2:44:23]
that document approved at a council
[2:44:25]
level. And so that would be a staff
[2:44:26]
effort and also largely a city council
[2:44:29]
effort. Um so I should have put city
[2:44:31]
council and the departments involved
[2:44:33]
there. Um but working on updating that
[2:44:35]
handbook.
[2:44:37]
Um and then the last one is um an
[2:44:39]
internal sort of uh employee requested
[2:44:41]
to evaluate feasibility of paid family
[2:44:43]
leave program. This is something that
[2:44:45]
we've seen in other jurisdictions. Um
[2:44:48]
kind of some some agencies moving to
[2:44:50]
some version of paid leave. Um right now
[2:44:54]
depending on the bargaining group um
[2:44:56]
there's um SDI or um unpaid FMLA. So it
[2:45:01]
would be looking at what other
[2:45:02]
jurisdictions offer and exploring
[2:45:04]
whether or not that would be something
[2:45:06]
that the town uh wishes to do in the
[2:45:08]
future. And so um that's an internal
[2:45:11]
research project. Um we would evaluate
[2:45:13]
the uh anticipated costs and present it
[2:45:16]
to council for consideration um at some
[2:45:18]
point in the future.
[2:45:21]
Um, could you just clarify? You said
[2:45:23]
unpaid FMLA. I thought obviously I'm
[2:45:26]
mistaken that there was a state mandate
[2:45:28]
that some of that FMLA must be paid. Is
[2:45:31]
that not the case?
[2:45:33]
>> Uh, no. FMLA is unpaid. Um, and there
[2:45:36]
are some units in the town that pay into
[2:45:40]
state disability and so they get some uh
[2:45:43]
not all uh payback through uh through
[2:45:46]
that program but not all bargaining
[2:45:48]
units participate in that. Um, and so
[2:45:51]
this in there's a pilot program from
[2:45:54]
Foster City um where they looked at
[2:45:57]
doing a partially paid family leave for
[2:46:00]
basically all reasons that would be
[2:46:02]
covered under FMLA. So, it's not just um
[2:46:06]
pregnancy or a new child. It would be
[2:46:08]
anything that's covered under FMLA is
[2:46:09]
covered under their it's called a I
[2:46:11]
think it's called care program. Um and
[2:46:14]
so because Foster City is doing this
[2:46:15]
pilot, it's been a big talk in the HR
[2:46:18]
world for Sano County as well as the the
[2:46:20]
Bay Area.
[2:46:24]
» Okay. Um any further questions along
[2:46:27]
those lines? Okay. Yes. Um Council
[2:46:30]
Member Council Member Adams. Yes. Um,
[2:46:32]
one thing about the uh transition
[2:46:35]
toca.gov.
[2:46:38]
Um, at the League of California Cities,
[2:46:41]
I talked with a city that had gone
[2:46:43]
through this and their prediction was
[2:46:45]
that it takes of a full year largely
[2:46:48]
because of a review by the state of
[2:46:52]
every aspect and they would submit an
[2:46:54]
aspect and it would take a couple of
[2:46:56]
months to get back. So, this is going to
[2:46:59]
be a big project and I would recommend
[2:47:03]
that we make sure we have enough funding
[2:47:07]
uh to maybe get a consultant to help us
[2:47:10]
go through this because this is going to
[2:47:12]
be much more than advertised.
[2:47:18]
» Uh, thanks for that information.
[2:47:19]
Appreciate it. Yes. Um, Vice Mayor
[2:47:21]
Rexdale,
[2:47:23]
>> thank you. Um, all right. I have to
[2:47:25]
switch switch the glasses. Um, so with
[2:47:29]
regard to the family paid leave, uh,
[2:47:32]
thank you so much for looking into this.
[2:47:34]
Um, as we've mentioned before, up here
[2:47:37]
we're all moms and four of us are
[2:47:39]
grandmothers. Um, and, uh, I think it's
[2:47:43]
super important to, um, support that.
[2:47:46]
And I think it also would really help
[2:47:47]
with uh recruiting and retention which
[2:47:50]
is worth you know so much so much you
[2:47:54]
could can't even quantify how much uh
[2:47:56]
recruiting and retention is worth. So um
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thank you for following that uh how
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that's going in Foster City. Um, and uh,
[2:48:04]
with regard to the council handbook, um,
[2:48:07]
I think it's a great idea to add to it,
[2:48:10]
update it, um, and maybe have a
[2:48:14]
subcommittee of, um, two council members
[2:48:17]
who are who it won't affect, who um,
[2:48:19]
maybe are not going to run again or
[2:48:22]
something to um, you know, who have been
[2:48:26]
mayor and that kind of thing, I think
[2:48:28]
would be um, would be helpful. And then
[2:48:30]
of course we would all appine because we
[2:48:32]
love to do that. Thank you.
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>> Yeah. Thanks for those suggestions.
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Yeah. Um
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any additional questions to item E
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before we ask for public comment.
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>> Yes. Council member Schwang.
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>> Thank you. Um I just want to uh kind of
[2:48:49]
bring to attention that uh when it comes
[2:48:51]
to the transition to CA.gov
[2:48:54]
web domain um the effort from the staff
[2:48:58]
is is is noted as small and um council
[2:49:02]
member Adam just said that otherwise and
[2:49:05]
so I just want to kind of bring this uh
[2:49:08]
to sort of a uh medium to make sure that
[2:49:12]
we did reflect the effort of the staff
[2:49:15]
and that it is not a huge undertaking
[2:49:20]
albeit mandated yeah so
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>> okay thank you we will that's the last
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I'm sorry council member Adams you have
[2:49:27]
a question your comments Just a comment
[2:49:29]
um in the I really think it's a great
[2:49:32]
idea to review the city council handbook
[2:49:35]
and uh I would want to make sure that uh
[2:49:38]
we make it something particularly for
[2:49:41]
new council members. So I'd like to
[2:49:44]
volunteer on that. But that it also um
[2:49:47]
in addition to the legal aspects of the
[2:49:51]
council membership, some handy hints,
[2:49:54]
some things that experienced voices can
[2:49:57]
be quoted and helpful in helping uh not
[2:50:03]
just council members who've been
[2:50:05]
elected, but people who are
[2:50:06]
contemplating running. It's really
[2:50:09]
important. Okay, those are some good
[2:50:10]
comments and and you know I I think we
[2:50:13]
can we're going to have the opportunity
[2:50:14]
to come back and and comments and
[2:50:17]
discuss and promote some of these
[2:50:19]
subjects. Okay, you you can go ahead and
[2:50:21]
add to that.
[2:50:22]
>> I just want to quickly add to what
[2:50:23]
council member Adams said. So, this has
[2:50:24]
kind of been on my radar screen for a
[2:50:26]
while. So, I actually have interviewed
[2:50:28]
some former mayors and gotten feedback.
[2:50:30]
And if you remember, I asked this uh
[2:50:32]
city clerk last year to ask people to
[2:50:35]
send their comments or so. So so we have
[2:50:38]
started to collect some of that
[2:50:40]
information. I would love to be able to
[2:50:42]
yeah um help that inform.
[2:50:43]
>> Thank you. Um
[2:50:46]
so let's get public comments and we're
[2:50:48]
going to come back and try to have a
[2:50:50]
little bit of a discussion before we
[2:50:51]
prioritize our choices. Um do we have
[2:50:54]
any public comments on any of these
[2:50:55]
issues?
[2:50:56]
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. Yes, Dr.
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Weineberg, would you like to provide
[2:51:00]
comments?
[2:51:09]
» Thank you very much. Um, one quick in
[2:51:13]
June, our two chipping projects are from
[2:51:16]
the 8th to tw to the 12th and the 22nd
[2:51:19]
to the um 26th. That's 10 working days.
[2:51:24]
We're going to be doing about 1437
[2:51:28]
additional homes. And I have a lovely
[2:51:31]
map here that I'll be happy to show. The
[2:51:35]
white areas are the areas that have not
[2:51:38]
been shipped and will include everything
[2:51:41]
else in Hillsboro. So, we'll finally get
[2:51:45]
that chip off our shoulder.
[2:51:50]
Maybe we can get um a copy of that as
[2:51:52]
part of these notes or minutes if anyone
[2:51:55]
is listening so they can take a look at
[2:51:57]
that map.
[2:51:58]
>> It's available for a picture.
[2:52:00]
>> Yeah.
[2:52:01]
>> Um then the other point I wanted to
[2:52:03]
bring up and I may be way outside my
[2:52:05]
lane. I admit this. Um,
[2:52:09]
we feel at Firewise that we need a
[2:52:12]
uniform reference point for defensible
[2:52:16]
space and building standards
[2:52:19]
and that is chapter 7 in the state code.
[2:52:25]
Ideally,
[2:52:27]
this chapter should be
[2:52:30]
put into our codes. Now, that's why I
[2:52:32]
say I'm way outside my lane.
[2:52:35]
um but not for it to be a mandate
[2:52:40]
because I'll come to that in just a
[2:52:42]
moment why but the insurance industry
[2:52:45]
does
[2:52:47]
use these codes that the state have plus
[2:52:52]
and I think we should be uh clear to
[2:52:56]
them that we are aware
[2:52:59]
why
[2:53:01]
the WOOI fortunately was reduced a great
[2:53:06]
deal in the past year. That's very good
[2:53:09]
news for Hillsboro.
[2:53:11]
We have no very high severity, just some
[2:53:15]
small smidgen of high and some moderate,
[2:53:18]
about 25 28% of our surface area.
[2:53:23]
Chapter 7
[2:53:25]
would allow these people who are going
[2:53:28]
to want to do improvements to either
[2:53:32]
their a whole new home or a major
[2:53:36]
remodel which under chapter 7 is 25% or
[2:53:41]
more of the property.
[2:53:45]
And for those who are doing incremental
[2:53:47]
changes,
[2:53:49]
I really by having a reference point,
[2:53:52]
they'll know what to aim for, especially
[2:53:56]
from this simple standpoint of return on
[2:53:58]
investment. I want them to get the kind
[2:54:01]
of advice they need from the architects,
[2:54:04]
from the town, um, landscape architects,
[2:54:09]
etc. so that when they do spend their
[2:54:12]
hard-earned dollars, they get as close
[2:54:14]
to that code as possible.
[2:54:18]
Uh lastly,
[2:54:21]
um my firewise at a lively internal Z
[2:54:25]
meeting that we had sent to the town
[2:54:28]
council that you received a few months
[2:54:31]
ago now maybe uh the lowhanging fruit
[2:54:34]
changes we'd like to make sure are
[2:54:37]
included which were basically about
[2:54:40]
vents
[2:54:42]
about having um standards of um for the
[2:54:49]
class A roofing and covering eaves. But
[2:54:53]
what I'm asking for here was the other
[2:54:55]
side of the argument to consider the
[2:54:58]
standard of the uh uniform um reference
[2:55:04]
point for which everything would be
[2:55:06]
included. Thank you.
[2:55:08]
>> Thank you. Um Dr. Weinberg, appreciate
[2:55:10]
that.
[2:55:11]
>> William, I'll I'll I'll bring this map
[2:55:13]
up to you at some point.
[2:55:15]
>> I think it's helpful. Um, so we're going
[2:55:18]
to bring I'm sorry. Do we have
[2:55:20]
additional comments from the public?
[2:55:22]
>> No additional comments. Thank you.
[2:55:23]
>> Okay. And not nothing um remotely on
[2:55:26]
Zoom.
[2:55:29]
>> Okay. We'll close public comment and
[2:55:31]
bring it back to the council and we can
[2:55:33]
have some discussion before we finalize
[2:55:36]
our preference. Um
[2:55:40]
I think
[2:55:42]
um just I would just make a
[2:55:45]
clarification question and comment based
[2:55:47]
on what Dr. Weinberg just um submitted
[2:55:51]
um with regards to wildfire preparedness
[2:55:54]
and the building code amendments. I
[2:55:56]
believe hopefully that's coming to the
[2:55:58]
council within the next few months in
[2:56:00]
terms of the amendments adoption or
[2:56:02]
changes to our MUN code and specifically
[2:56:05]
it sounds like uh Dr. Weineberg was
[2:56:09]
commenting or suggesting having a
[2:56:11]
uniform defensible space class A roof uh
[2:56:15]
fire resistive vents covering eaves etc.
[2:56:19]
But those will be discussed at a
[2:56:20]
different meeting. It's just a heads up
[2:56:22]
as we move forward in terms of our
[2:56:24]
priorities at this point. Am I correct
[2:56:26]
in that? I believe so. Okay. Um,
[2:56:33]
in terms of additional comments on the
[2:56:35]
other things, I think we've been
[2:56:36]
commenting as we went along, but I'm
[2:56:37]
happy to open it up to my colleagues if
[2:56:39]
you you want to add anything else we
[2:56:41]
haven't covered or discussed. Um, Vice
[2:56:43]
Mayor Ragdale.
[2:56:45]
>> Um, I only have one. Um, and thank you
[2:56:46]
for taking our comments all along. I I
[2:56:48]
think that was uh super helpful, but I
[2:56:51]
um I missed the boat on one by my own
[2:56:54]
fault. Um, with regard to PG Genie, I
[2:56:57]
know P Genie not not great to deal with,
[2:57:00]
but my power was out two mornings in the
[2:57:03]
past week. Um, and the communication has
[2:57:07]
improved. So, I don't know if that's one
[2:57:09]
tiny little bright spot. Um, and also
[2:57:12]
where you have to um where you want to
[2:57:14]
search and enter your address. It used
[2:57:17]
to be, you know, now your your
[2:57:18]
internet's out, right? and you're using
[2:57:20]
the cell coverage, which we know is not
[2:57:22]
fantastic in certain parts of town. Um,
[2:57:25]
but now it remembers the last address
[2:57:27]
you typed in because before you had to
[2:57:29]
retype in your address and wait and wait. So, um, a tiny little bright
[2:57:33]
spot. Um, and then clarification with
[2:57:36]
regard to um, PCE.
[2:57:39]
uh we are already detached from P Gen in
[2:57:42]
one respect which is we get your you get
[2:57:44]
your clean energy most of the town you
[2:57:47]
get your clean energy from PCE but the
[2:57:50]
distribution is through PG& um so to the
[2:57:54]
extent if if we did separate uh which I
[2:57:57]
don't have an opinion on but if we did
[2:58:00]
separate um we would need someone else
[2:58:03]
to provide that distribution and billing
[2:58:06]
they're they're on the same bill so
[2:58:08]
that's just little thing to add.
[2:58:12]
» Thank you, Council Member Crowley.
[2:58:18]
» Thank you, Madam Mayor. So, I have one
[2:58:20]
kind of general comment and a couple
[2:58:21]
comments on things that are in this and
[2:58:23]
then one suggestion for something to
[2:58:25]
add. So, general comment, just a great
[2:58:28]
job organizing and presenting today. I
[2:58:31]
thought everything was really succinct
[2:58:33]
and um and I just s between the
[2:58:37]
volunteer party on Thursday um and then
[2:58:40]
just seeing and hearing from all of our
[2:58:42]
staff today, it just I'm so struck by
[2:58:46]
how it's it's hard to to walk that line
[2:58:49]
between the personal touch of a small
[2:58:51]
town and the professional efficiency
[2:58:54]
that you want. And I really think
[2:58:55]
Hillsboro does it. And it's because of
[2:58:58]
the dedication of everybody here and
[2:59:01]
also the Aspree decor. So I really
[2:59:03]
appreciate it. It's I think it's a tough
[2:59:05]
thing to do and I think I think you do
[2:59:07]
it and I our residents feel that and
[2:59:10]
appreciate that and I feel it and
[2:59:12]
appreciate that. So thank you. Um so a
[2:59:15]
couple comments on the things that are
[2:59:17]
already in here. Um I I I love and Tim
[2:59:22]
and Liz know this that we are really
[2:59:24]
focusing on code enforcement because
[2:59:26]
it's been we've had a lot of complaints
[2:59:28]
about projects either how they're
[2:59:30]
managed or how long they go. So um so
[2:59:34]
two things I I think the new code
[2:59:36]
enforcement person will be great and a
[2:59:39]
great help to building and and I'm just
[2:59:41]
wondering are there any cost
[2:59:43]
efficiencies now that it's being taken
[2:59:45]
out of HPD? Are we saving some money
[2:59:48]
someplace that it will help to fund this
[2:59:50]
new staff member? That might be that
[2:59:53]
might be a question that you look into
[2:59:55]
or might be something. Um and then um
[2:59:58]
and this is something that I brought up
[3:00:01]
before. We do collect some funds from
[3:00:05]
the projects that run over. Is there,
[3:00:08]
and this may be a city attorney
[3:00:09]
question, is there any way that the
[3:00:11]
neighbors who are impacted who have to
[3:00:13]
live with this? It's very stressful to
[3:00:15]
be next door to a building site. I mean,
[3:00:18]
it affects your life every single day
[3:00:20]
for years and you get no benefit from
[3:00:22]
it. You get dust, you get noise, you get
[3:00:25]
disruption, your peace of mind is
[3:00:28]
affected. Is there any way that some of
[3:00:30]
that money that we collect for the
[3:00:33]
projects that go over can somehow
[3:00:35]
benefit the neighbors who have had to
[3:00:37]
live with the effects? So, I'll leave
[3:00:39]
that to the city attorney. I know we
[3:00:40]
can't use public funds for private use,
[3:00:42]
but I think if there was some mechanism
[3:00:46]
in which we could, you know, we get some
[3:00:50]
compensation for it that the neighbors
[3:00:51]
could somehow get compensated. I think
[3:00:54]
that would help a lot. Honestly, I think
[3:00:57]
any neighbor that you talk to would
[3:00:58]
rather the project be finished than get
[3:01:01]
a dime. But if if that's not happening,
[3:01:04]
um and uh and one of my colleagues
[3:01:08]
mentioned uh adaptive reuse of the tank
[3:01:11]
sites, that's probably a little too
[3:01:13]
early to put on this year's work program
[3:01:15]
because I think we're a few years out.
[3:01:17]
But that's definitely something to start
[3:01:19]
to use to start to think about like can
[3:01:22]
we use the tanks themselves for
[3:01:23]
something or how can we use the sites
[3:01:25]
that can be on for the future. um under
[3:01:29]
bike and pedestrian master plan as we're
[3:01:31]
executing that uh one fallout of our
[3:01:34]
beautiful streets. I love our streets
[3:01:36]
and I also think as I said before
[3:01:39]
everything communicates and our nice
[3:01:40]
streets communicate something about the
[3:01:42]
quality of life in Hillsboro. So I think
[3:01:44]
it's a real benefit to everyone but the
[3:01:47]
smooth streets do encourage speeding
[3:01:49]
unfortunately. Um, so as we're looking
[3:01:52]
at the bike and ma pedestrian master
[3:01:54]
plan, can we look at ways to mitigate
[3:01:57]
speeding on some, especially on our wide
[3:01:59]
straight roads that now are beautifully
[3:02:00]
paved? And are there any other places
[3:02:04]
that we could do safe pathways because
[3:02:06]
they're certainly not sidewalks,
[3:02:08]
pathways like eucalyptus? Um, because
[3:02:11]
it's I mean it is it's a great benefit
[3:02:14]
to be able to walk safely in Hillsboro.
[3:02:17]
So, um, looking at that and those are my
[3:02:20]
comments on what we already have and my
[3:02:22]
comment on something to add. Could we
[3:02:24]
look at internships with either CC, CSM
[3:02:28]
or BHS, which I think was also brought
[3:02:30]
up and I did at Council of Cities talk
[3:02:32]
to another council member who said they
[3:02:34]
use interns, free interns for their
[3:02:36]
foyer requests. So, they said, you know,
[3:02:39]
these young people are really, really
[3:02:40]
good at investigating things online and
[3:02:43]
so they funnel all their foyer requests
[3:02:45]
to their interns. So, is that something?
[3:02:47]
And I know um our Rotary Club, which is
[3:02:50]
now called Rotary Club of Berling Game
[3:02:51]
in Hillsboro, we support BHS students
[3:02:54]
through a scholarship program, but they
[3:02:56]
are always looking for internships. So,
[3:02:58]
I think if the town of Hillsboro could
[3:03:00]
even provide one internship to a BHS
[3:03:02]
program, it would be very warmly
[3:03:04]
received. Thank you.
[3:03:06]
>> Um thank you and thanks for your
[3:03:08]
comments on internships. Um I I I I
[3:03:12]
agree. I think there's a lot of hidden
[3:03:14]
talents amongst our young uh students.
[3:03:17]
Um I assume we will put them through the
[3:03:20]
privacy um training as far as
[3:03:23]
information and how to procure and
[3:03:25]
secure information because a lot of it
[3:03:27]
will be private information that cannot
[3:03:29]
be disclosed. So that would be a
[3:03:30]
critical aspect of of that as well. Um
[3:03:35]
any you know before I I have some
[3:03:37]
comments on a few things but I would
[3:03:39]
like my colleagues if they have Yeah.
[3:03:41]
Council member Adams you may go ahead.
[3:03:45]
» Thank you Madame Mayor. Um I wanted to
[3:03:48]
uh ask if we should be considering other
[3:03:52]
generators that are in town whether we
[3:03:55]
need to do an assessment. uh since uh
[3:03:58]
our police generator was so old. Um I
[3:04:02]
think the public works one is fairly
[3:04:04]
new, but if there's one here for the
[3:04:06]
town, I'd just like to see uh our do an
[3:04:10]
assessment of where we might need that.
[3:04:13]
uh the as far as the construction I had
[3:04:16]
complained about uh the fact that the
[3:04:20]
neighbors don't get the direct benefit
[3:04:22]
uh because usually it's their streets
[3:04:24]
that were torn up in addition to the
[3:04:28]
fact that they've been uh putting up
[3:04:30]
with a lot of noise and chaos for a
[3:04:33]
while. I got a pretty good answer that
[3:04:35]
in fact there is a rotation for our
[3:04:38]
streets that can't really be adjusted.
[3:04:42]
Uh, and it is sad because the people who
[3:04:47]
could be benefiting from that fee often
[3:04:51]
don't. So, there might be some other way
[3:04:53]
to look at that. I want us to also look
[3:04:55]
at our volunteer recognition. I was so
[3:04:58]
sad that I wasn't able to attend our
[3:05:01]
recognition this year. And I'd like for
[3:05:04]
us to have um a discussion as a council
[3:05:08]
about how we recognize and recruit our
[3:05:10]
volunteers just so that this amazing
[3:05:15]
work that they done that they do is
[3:05:18]
appropriately recognized and that
[3:05:20]
they're comfortable and able to attend
[3:05:23]
and invited to those uh recognition
[3:05:27]
ceremonies.
[3:05:29]
And I completely agree with council
[3:05:33]
member Krill on speeding. I do feel we
[3:05:37]
need a campaign and I would love to have
[3:05:42]
uh as I said I'd love to have us be a a
[3:05:45]
city that is proud about the zen of
[3:05:50]
driving through our town. And I think
[3:05:53]
this is a fiveinut
[3:05:55]
uh problem. Everyone needs to add five
[3:05:58]
minutes to wherever they're going and
[3:06:01]
that we tell our construction
[3:06:04]
contractors we will enforce this and
[3:06:08]
that we care about the health and safety
[3:06:12]
of our citizens. And in fact, we view it
[3:06:16]
as a real benefit that you don't have to
[3:06:18]
go quite so fast uh to get through our
[3:06:22]
town. Um, but I also reiterate what
[3:06:26]
council member Krill said. This was a
[3:06:28]
great process and so uh very clear and
[3:06:34]
also uh delivered to us in a timely
[3:06:36]
fashion. So, thank you.
[3:06:38]
>> Thank you. Um I um council member
[3:06:42]
Schwang.
[3:06:44]
Uh
[3:06:45]
so I I do like the process of the
[3:06:48]
presentation of last year's review and
[3:06:50]
then having the council's comments then
[3:06:53]
the going forward the 26 27 that the
[3:06:56]
department has have the comments and
[3:06:59]
then we are able to chive in to ask
[3:07:02]
questions and clarify some of the the u
[3:07:05]
comments because it's really hard to
[3:07:07]
pack in everything in here. So the
[3:07:10]
different interpretation I think the
[3:07:12]
clarification was very helpful. Um I do
[3:07:15]
want to um add on to the ADRB and in
[3:07:18]
terms of the residents comments
[3:07:19]
regarding the constructions. I think you
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know the exciting part is that we
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continue to have robust constructions in
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our town and I know that because I live
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in a zone where there are constantly
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several houses are big constructions
[3:07:35]
coming on. Um, so I do understand that
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when pedestrians, residents walk by
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those houses and find that to be
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nuanced, if there's no action going on
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or that if there's way too long dragging
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on to them, they walk daily. They see
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that they see the obstructions of the
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fences or the construction trucks.
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However, I do think that we need to and
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maybe this is a CCF CCAC um you know
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newsletters um outreach is to say how
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much our directors uh department heads
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are so accessible in terms of answering
[3:08:14]
the questions. like they have questions
[3:08:17]
but if they talk to you in person they
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understand sort of the circumstances as
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why it takes so long because every
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construction is different and I want to
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say but the perception is out there if I
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walk by the same construction site and
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it's taking forever or if the constru
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contractor's trucks and workers trucks
[3:08:40]
are parked everywhere which I experience
[3:08:42]
constantly or the violations of the leaf
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blowers I experience constantly and at
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some point it's really hard to make a
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you know make a call to the PD and says
[3:08:54]
can you come out here and the officers
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cannot win it cannot site uh the
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contractors or the the perpetrators
[3:09:04]
without seeing that action taken place.
[3:09:08]
So those are all things that I think our
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resident need to understand it does take
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time. Um so um to the extent I think
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that the you know to have the
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co-efficiency I think is uh important
[3:09:21]
and we can constantly strive that. I do
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know that
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in the past uh the the building planning
[3:09:30]
sent out your inspectors to do spot
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check. I wonder if that is still ongoing
[3:09:36]
because it's not just in this is in
[3:09:39]
addition to the permit check that you
[3:09:42]
have to go through but there are spot
[3:09:44]
check that you come by so that if
[3:09:46]
contractors or workers are doing things
[3:09:49]
that are not necessarily
[3:09:52]
up to code shall we say that you have
[3:09:56]
the the the the idea that you have spa
[3:09:58]
checks is going to uh discourage them
[3:10:01]
from doing things that they are not
[3:10:03]
supposed to So I wonder if that is
[3:10:06]
continue to be reinforced and advocate
[3:10:09]
that is important. Um I do think that
[3:10:13]
the eBike continue to be a issues. I
[3:10:15]
think that we need to change the the
[3:10:18]
wording on that the e throttles. I've
[3:10:20]
been to several of the uh meetings that
[3:10:23]
the uh supervisors and the legislators
[3:10:26]
have put on. Um there's a different uh
[3:10:30]
distinctions between the e- throttles
[3:10:32]
versus the ebike. And I think that it is
[3:10:34]
encompassing upon us to as we move
[3:10:37]
forward with the literatures to be able
[3:10:39]
to make the distinctions so that is
[3:10:41]
clear to our residents so that they
[3:10:44]
would know the difference. Um and then
[3:10:48]
you know I I think it is a known fact
[3:10:51]
that this council support any kind of
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reinforcement to keep our population
[3:10:56]
safe you know be it students or parents.
[3:10:59]
Um the lastly I'm excited about the um
[3:11:05]
the pedestrian and the uh psych bicycle
[3:11:09]
uh master plans. I do think that speed
[3:11:12]
is continue to be a issues however we do
[3:11:15]
it. Um we talk about the alamino riale
[3:11:19]
that there are project that is happening
[3:11:21]
right now between Berling game and
[3:11:24]
Samuel. I believe that Milbury will be
[3:11:27]
next. Those are all great ideas in terms
[3:11:32]
of the Grand Boulevard scenario. The
[3:11:35]
reality is that when you're trying to
[3:11:37]
pack pedestrians,
[3:11:39]
cyclists, and the drivers all in the
[3:11:42]
same road, the perspectives are
[3:11:44]
different. And so we need to really take
[3:11:47]
a good look at that and to see how
[3:11:51]
process what kind of process that we're
[3:11:54]
able to um implement that it will be
[3:11:57]
effective. So to that um and then I echo
[3:12:01]
my um council colleagues. It's a great
[3:12:05]
presentation, a lot of thoughtfulness.
[3:12:07]
Again, it demonstrate um our staff's uh
[3:12:10]
professionalism and commitment to serve
[3:12:13]
our community. So thank you very much.
[3:12:19]
I just wanted to say also I am in
[3:12:21]
support of what uh council member
[3:12:23]
Ragstell had added ebike education
[3:12:25]
enforcement the use cancer study
[3:12:27]
pesticide use and the business licenses
[3:12:29]
and and events.
[3:12:32]
>> Okay, go ahead.
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>> Um yes, Vice Mayor Rexdale.
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>> Everyone just has such good ideas and we
[3:12:37]
all start thinking I like that. I like
[3:12:39]
that. So, um I was just thinking when
[3:12:42]
Council Member Adams was talking about
[3:12:44]
generators, it made me think about when
[3:12:46]
the power goes out and your neighbors
[3:12:48]
have generators. Um I'm not saying we
[3:12:51]
need to regulate them, but just, you
[3:12:53]
know, when we have on our website, um
[3:12:56]
helpful hints for people if we could
[3:12:59]
recommend any generators if they are out
[3:13:02]
there that aren't quite so loud. Um,
[3:13:06]
that would be fantastic because the the
[3:13:08]
ones in use, at least in my
[3:13:10]
neighborhood, are, you know, the power's
[3:13:12]
out before you click your light. You you
[3:13:14]
hear the generators coming in every
[3:13:15]
direction. So, if there are ones that we
[3:13:17]
could, you know, point people to, um, I
[3:13:20]
think I think that would be Yeah, there
[3:13:22]
we go. I think that would be great. Um,
[3:13:24]
the volunteer recognition event was
[3:13:26]
amazing, but we miss you terribly. Um,
[3:13:30]
and yeah, I think it's great to to talk
[3:13:32]
about um how we recognize um that that
[3:13:36]
event was lovely and I would love to
[3:13:38]
replicate that in the future. And um but
[3:13:41]
recruiting, it's it's great to um think
[3:13:44]
of different ways to get the word out
[3:13:45]
beyond people that that we know. Um and
[3:13:49]
then I am all for a campaign regarding
[3:13:52]
speeding. Um and I love the, you know,
[3:13:55]
add five minutes to your day. Hey,
[3:13:57]
you've already got the slogan there. Um,
[3:14:00]
and uh I would just add to that um
[3:14:04]
stopping at stop signs just, you know,
[3:14:07]
they're not they're not suggestions.
[3:14:08]
They are they're there for a reason.
[3:14:10]
Thank you.
[3:14:12]
>> Okay. Thank you. Um those are all um um
[3:14:16]
great additions. Um I as I look at this,
[3:14:19]
I was just trying to see how we can
[3:14:21]
efficiently prioritize.
[3:14:24]
Um it sounds like we we love all
[3:14:26]
everything you've put forth, but we
[3:14:28]
can't we don't have Jen just told us we
[3:14:31]
don't have like limitless funds to just
[3:14:33]
spend whatever money we want. So my
[3:14:35]
question is there are a few items here
[3:14:37]
that I was wondering if we could put
[3:14:40]
aside as exceptions. for example,
[3:14:43]
budgeted needed zero dollars and staff
[3:14:47]
effort was small. Can those I mean
[3:14:50]
sounds like these are basically in
[3:14:52]
progress being done for we can start
[3:14:54]
with the um on a item a is that's what's
[3:14:59]
up. Okay. Item A2
[3:15:02]
um that one is slated as this is the
[3:15:08]
prep.
[3:15:11]
Yeah.
[3:15:12]
Um, repair wildfire preparedness
[3:15:14]
building code. I mean, it says zero
[3:15:17]
dollars, small effort. Can we just sort
[3:15:19]
of make exceptions to those and not have
[3:15:21]
us rank this because I'm not sure how
[3:15:23]
we're going to do the ranking? I was
[3:15:25]
just going to ask if we can put if it's
[3:15:27]
zero dollars and small effort, if we
[3:15:29]
could just exclude those and put them to
[3:15:31]
the side because it's getting done
[3:15:33]
anyways and it's not, we don't have to
[3:15:36]
contemplate financial impact. Is is that
[3:15:39]
something we can do? Yeah, certainly. I
[3:15:41]
mean, the whole list, the goal was to
[3:15:43]
get agreement um to make sure that the
[3:15:46]
list is correct and we I've taken notes
[3:15:48]
on the additions um which it sounds like
[3:15:50]
there's consensus in bringing those
[3:15:51]
forward. Um what I can do is I can put
[3:15:56]
the revision to this, which is the
[3:15:58]
summary slide. It doesn't have the
[3:16:00]
specific details on it. Um I can have
[3:16:02]
William put up the revised list. And
[3:16:04]
what we've done in past years is um not
[3:16:07]
last year uh is each council member can
[3:16:09]
give their top three or five um
[3:16:12]
priorities so that we know which sort of
[3:16:14]
areas to focus on first. Um but the plan
[3:16:18]
was to get consensus on the full list,
[3:16:19]
but it sounds like we've already done
[3:16:20]
that so we're ahead of schedule.
[3:16:22]
>> Yeah. So and and before you confirm that
[3:16:24]
I probably should have gotten some
[3:16:25]
consensus from my um colleagues. What I
[3:16:28]
was suggesting is items that are not
[3:16:31]
going to impact the budget as of now
[3:16:33]
based on the projections and have a
[3:16:35]
small require small staffing effort to
[3:16:38]
put those aside. Meaning it's almost a
[3:16:40]
done deal. It's in the pipe works. It's
[3:16:42]
going to be done and just prioritize
[3:16:44]
some of the more challenging um um items
[3:16:48]
in terms of our ranking because
[3:16:50]
otherwise we have 18 items
[3:16:52]
and I already have 10 that I would like
[3:16:54]
to see it on. So we'll probably what is
[3:16:57]
the number that you were going to
[3:16:58]
recommend? Five or four
[3:17:01]
>> through the mayor.
[3:17:03]
>> Yeah. Wait, let me just hear from the
[3:17:04]
staff.
[3:17:04]
>> I I think the focus what we're showing
[3:17:06]
you here is just all in and it does feel
[3:17:09]
like is this the the total breath of the
[3:17:12]
entire list. This is all the things that
[3:17:13]
the department heads and commissioners
[3:17:15]
had agreed upon and some of the issues
[3:17:16]
that are coming forward from each year.
[3:17:19]
If we got consensus on all this, this
[3:17:21]
is, you know, if any of this falls into
[3:17:24]
a feasibility issue where we're going to
[3:17:26]
run into a fiscal issue or a staff time
[3:17:28]
issue or something like that, that's
[3:17:30]
when the second phase of this comes into
[3:17:32]
play where we come back to you and tell
[3:17:34]
you, you know, for example, like item A4
[3:17:37]
there, uh these are the this will be the
[3:17:40]
fiscal impact. This is our
[3:17:41]
recommendation. You'll be getting those
[3:17:43]
specifics at a council meeting. Now, if
[3:17:45]
we come forward and something, you know,
[3:17:47]
un unforeseen happens and we have a
[3:17:48]
fiscal issue, then that would be the
[3:17:51]
time that we would decide perhaps this
[3:17:53]
issue is something we can put off till
[3:17:55]
another year. But everything you're
[3:17:56]
seeing right here, we're going to
[3:17:58]
attempt to make within our bandwidth. I
[3:18:00]
think the the goal would be is if
[3:18:03]
there's things here that you feel like
[3:18:05]
this is where your time and effort
[3:18:07]
should be invested first, then those
[3:18:09]
would be the the kind of the the task
[3:18:11]
that we would try to tackle. But the
[3:18:13]
goal here is to tackle everything that's
[3:18:15]
on this list.
[3:18:16]
>> Oh, okay. So, we get to have everything
[3:18:17]
basically.
[3:18:18]
>> Yes. You get it all.
[3:18:19]
>> Okay. Gotcha.
[3:18:20]
>> Okay. That's a lot better. Um, yeah.
[3:18:23]
Through the mayor.
[3:18:23]
>> Yeah. I think that's good.
[3:18:24]
>> I I think that that's what I was going
[3:18:26]
for is that I do believe that our uh
[3:18:30]
staff have the competency and knows
[3:18:33]
where they're at in terms of what's on
[3:18:35]
their plate in terms of the prior
[3:18:38]
prioritizations of all these tasks. I
[3:18:41]
think that unless the council have any
[3:18:44]
issues regarding any of the items that
[3:18:46]
we think that can be table or that is
[3:18:49]
not really our priorities that should be
[3:18:51]
known. I've been to other um uh workshop
[3:18:55]
where you you prioritize three but
[3:18:58]
there's like more and and so it's always
[3:19:00]
a tough uh situation and plus I think
[3:19:03]
that you know the the notion that the
[3:19:05]
commissioner has spoken to the
[3:19:06]
department heads the department heads
[3:19:08]
have gone through within their
[3:19:09]
departments in terms of the projects I
[3:19:11]
think we respect that aspect of it and
[3:19:14]
give us the comfort that we know should
[3:19:16]
there be any issues you have the
[3:19:18]
confidence and we have the confidence
[3:19:21]
and trust us that you're going to bring
[3:19:22]
it back to us for discussion.
[3:19:24]
>> Um, so having said that, let me then
[3:19:27]
make a few comments on things that do
[3:19:29]
have don't have a
[3:19:32]
number or amount estimated and small
[3:19:34]
effort. Um, I I do feel strongly that we
[3:19:37]
should explore um paid family leave for
[3:19:41]
um staff and evaluate the physibility of
[3:19:43]
that. I think it is critical to um the
[3:19:46]
culture of not just the workplace but
[3:19:48]
the whole community. So that's something
[3:19:51]
I would like for um the t the staff to
[3:19:54]
continue to explore and see how that can
[3:19:56]
be done and bring it back to the council
[3:19:57]
at a later time. Um but in general I
[3:20:00]
think we've all talked about um all
[3:20:04]
these issues we all all in on all of
[3:20:06]
them with regards to um current
[3:20:10]
procedures and responsibilities for
[3:20:12]
council members and provide updates and
[3:20:14]
adopt I agree a subcommittee but I think
[3:20:17]
the subcommittee should be someone who
[3:20:20]
is not um currently running to be on the
[3:20:23]
city council. I think it's an inherent
[3:20:25]
bias or someone who is not going to be
[3:20:27]
running very soon to be on the city
[3:20:28]
council. So, I think um we we can do a
[3:20:32]
subcommittee and report back to the
[3:20:33]
council for approval in terms of what's
[3:20:36]
um established. And I at this um I I'm
[3:20:40]
inclined
[3:20:42]
to appoint myself and council member
[3:20:45]
Krik to do this. I just
[3:20:48]
>> I'd like to do is um we normally like to
[3:20:50]
agendaize the formation of a
[3:20:51]
subcommittee as a topic on an agenda. So
[3:20:53]
the public can comment and then council
[3:20:55]
can have a discussion about it with the
[3:20:56]
public there. Okay.
[3:20:57]
>> So I'd recommend waiting to point the
[3:20:59]
subcommittee, but staff can bring back
[3:21:01]
an agenda item at your regular meeting
[3:21:02]
for that purpose.
[3:21:03]
>> So this will come back to the council
[3:21:05]
then. Okay. Great. And with regards to
[3:21:08]
the um transitioning to ca.gov
[3:21:12]
web domain. I appreciate the comments
[3:21:14]
from council member Adams in terms of
[3:21:17]
being sober about how long this could
[3:21:19]
take and planning appropriately. it
[3:21:21]
could be very frustrating not only for
[3:21:23]
the residents but especially for the
[3:21:24]
city council members as well who are
[3:21:26]
using the domain to get work done or
[3:21:29]
communicate. So just we may even need
[3:21:32]
some um workshop or education as we make
[3:21:36]
the transition if we were to go that
[3:21:38]
route because that could be impactful.
[3:21:40]
Yeah.
[3:21:43]
and and again it looks like we may end
[3:21:48]
up needing a subcommittee regarding a
[3:21:50]
501c potentially as was discussed and
[3:21:53]
that's still there lots of other option
[3:21:55]
maybe we don't do a 501c maybe we do we
[3:21:57]
can explore that after we get some
[3:21:59]
feedback from legal counsel is that the
[3:22:01]
understanding okay
[3:22:04]
and um I think those are all my comments
[3:22:07]
on the items but I like the idea that we
[3:22:09]
get to have everything
[3:22:13]
Go ahead. Yeah, council member Adams.
[3:22:15]
>> I love getting everything too and I am
[3:22:18]
totally suspect of something that says
[3:22:21]
zero budget needed because even the ones
[3:22:25]
that are here uh implement educational
[3:22:29]
resources that could take some money. Uh
[3:22:33]
another small and zero execute 40
[3:22:37]
Baywood agreement that could take some
[3:22:39]
money. So, I think all of this will
[3:22:42]
unfold, but what a great uh menu you've
[3:22:48]
given us and we really appreciate it.
[3:22:50]
>> Yeah. And I really want to thank Mandy,
[3:22:53]
special applause for her. This was
[3:22:54]
outstanding. We love this format. It was
[3:22:57]
extremely useful in terms of the
[3:22:59]
discussion, very deliberative
[3:23:00]
discussion. And I want to thank my
[3:23:02]
colleagues for a very enlightening and
[3:23:04]
informative discussion this morning,
[3:23:06]
afternoon. Um and of course to the staff
[3:23:10]
and department heads. You guys um really
[3:23:13]
are running a great town and we're very
[3:23:15]
grateful and we're extremely thankful.
[3:23:17]
Thank you so much. And and with that
[3:23:19]
said, unless there's anything else to
[3:23:21]
add, I will now um this meeting is now
[3:23:24]
adjourned. Thank you.