[0:13] You ready?

[0:20] We're rolling. All right. Hey, good evening everyone. Thanks for uh coming

[0:25] in tonight. Um, we'll call to order the uh Oakland Town Commission meeting for

[0:30] August 25th, 2026. If everybody could please stand for the pledge or remain

[0:34] standing.

[2:02] Amen. Thank you, Miss Mac. Missed you.

[2:13] » All right. Good evening, Kathy. Good evening. Commissioner Keller

[2:17] » here. >> Vice Mayor Satderfield,

[2:20] Mayor Taylor >> here,

[2:22] » Commissioner Mley >> present. Commissioner McMullen is

[2:24] absent. >> Okay.

[2:27] So, um we've got uh three proclamations tonight and um we'll get to those right

[2:35] now. Our first proclamation tonight is uh

[2:39] Labor Day in the town of Oakland. Whereas, Labor Day is a timehonored

[2:43] tradition in the United States dedicated to recognizing the invaluable

[2:46] contributions of American workers whose dedication and hard work have built and

[2:50] sustain our nation's economy and prosperity. And the town of Oakland,

[2:55] Florida, is deeply committed to celebrating the achievements of our

[2:58] local workforce, acknowledging the vital roles that workers and all industries

[3:02] play in ensuring the continued growth and success of our community. And Labor

[3:06] Day also serves as a reminder of the importance of fair and equitable working

[3:10] conditions, the right to a safe workplace, and the continued need to

[3:14] advocate for the rights and well-beings of all workers. And the town of Oakland

[3:17] is proud to honor the men and women who contribute tirelessly to this strength,

[3:22] vitality, and well-being of our community and to reflect on the progress

[3:25] made in the pursuit of labor rights and the work that still lies ahead. And as

[3:30] we gather to celebrate this Labor Day, we recognize the diversity, dedication,

[3:34] and resilience of our workforce. And we commit to supporting initiatives that

[3:38] promote job creation, fair wages, and opportunities for all. Now therefore, I

[3:42] Shane Taylor, by the virtue of the authority vested in me as the mayor of

[3:45] the town of Oakland, Florida, and on behalf of the entire town commission, do

[3:49] hereby proclaim September 7th, 2026 as Labor Day in the town of Oakland and

[3:54] urge all citizens to join in recognizing the celebrating the valuable

[3:57] contributions of workers in our community and across uh our nation. So,

[4:02] thank you very much for that one. Uh this one is Constitution Week 2026

[4:10] whereas September 17, 2026 marks the 239th anniversary of the drafting of the

[4:16] Constitution of the United States of America by the Constitutional

[4:18] Convention. And it is fitting and proper to accord official recognition to this

[4:23] magnificent document and its memorable anniversary and to pay and to the

[4:28] patriotic celebrations which will commemorate the occasion. and public law

[4:33] 915 guarantees the issuing of a proclamation each year by the president

[4:37] of the United States of America designating September 17th through the

[4:42] 23rd as Constitution Week. Now therefore, I, Shane Taylor, mayor of the

[4:47] town of Oakland, and on behalf of the entire town commission, do hereby

[4:50] proclaim September 17th through September 23rd, 2026 as Constitution

[4:56] Week in the town of Oakland, and ask our citizens to study the Constitution,

[4:59] reflect on the privileges of being an American with all the rights and

[5:03] responsibilities which that privilege involves.

[5:07] And one of our favorite ones every year that we do, it's the um and and I'd like

[5:13] to say thanks Christa in and your organization uh Healthy West Orange for

[5:18] being a big part of our town and helping us out on on things. So, thank you very

[5:22] much >> and thank you for 10 years of supporting

[5:25] us. We are celebrating the 10th anniversary of Healthy Selfie.

[5:28] » You're welcome. And we get a free t-shirt for doing that. Thank you.

[5:33] » Have a very colorful. >> Yes.

[5:35] Yeah, >> you do.

[5:38] » Uh, whereas the healthy West Orange inspires healthy behaviors and provides

[5:42] resources to help residents make better lifestyle choices. And Healthy West

[5:45] Orange champions healthy programs that deliver health and wellness activity

[5:50] activities. And Healthy West Orange unites health-minded organizations for

[5:54] whom a healthy community provides meaningful benefits. and Healthy West

[5:58] Orange advocates for healthy communities decisions and encourages local leaders

[6:02] to keep their communities health and wellness a top priority. And Healthy

[6:07] West Orange declares that the third Friday in September as the annual West

[6:12] Orange Healthy Selfie Day. Now therefore, is my great pleasure and

[6:16] privilege as the mayor of the town of Oakland to declare Friday, September

[6:20] 18th, 2026 as West Orange Healthy Selfie Day and in celebration of the 10th

[6:25] anniversary of Healthy Selfie. And I urge all citizens to join in supporting

[6:29] this initiative. So, thank you very much. Yeah. Yeah. You want a selfie?

[6:35] Sorry.

[6:41] » Yeah. You hold them right up.

[6:47] I didn't think

[7:56] September 12th.

[8:15] Okay, moving right along. We are on to the

[8:20] consent agenda tonight. And on the consent agenda is approval of the August

[8:26] 11th, 2026 town commission regular meeting minutes. Approval of the town

[8:30] commission holiday meeting schedule with town hall offices closures. Approval of

[8:35] the second extension to the agreement with Wade Trim for planning services.

[8:39] Approval of the continuing and interlocal agreement with Orange County

[8:43] Property Appraisers. Required communication letter for Pervis

[8:47] Gray. Gosh, that's coming up. See like we just did that.

[8:52] Supra auditors notification letter to the Florida Department of Commerce to

[8:56] update the town's uh comprehensive plan. So with that, any questions or comments

[9:02] from anyone? Okay, we'll entertain a motion.

[9:06] » Make a motion to accept consent agenda as presented.

[9:09] » Second. >> I'll second the motion.

[9:10] » All in favor? >> I

[9:12] » I Okay. All right. Uh, next is an ordinance tonight. It's ordinance number

[9:20] 202605. First reading.

[9:23] » An ordinance of the town of Oakland, Florida adopting a town official zoning

[9:26] map amendment from C1 commercial general within the urban corridor district

[9:31] design district to PUD plan unit development within the urban corridor

[9:36] design district for certain real property owned by Oakland Town Center

[9:40] LLC. Generally located on the north side of State Road 50. at the northwest

[9:45] corner of the intersection of State Road 50 and Katherine Ross Road as more

[9:50] particularly described herein with an approximate size of 14.80 acres

[9:56] approving a development agreement between the property owner and the town

[9:59] of Oakland and approving a preliminary subdivision plan making findings and

[10:04] providing for conflict severability and an effective date.

[10:09] » Thank you Kathy. Good evening Taylor. How are you?

[10:11] » I'm good. How are you Mr. Mayor?

[10:39] Sometimes there's a screen behind everyone and it's okay if you want to

[10:43] turn around and and look at that one too because some of the details I think that

[10:47] they're going to show is probably see them better.

[10:52] » All right. Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of the town commission. Before

[10:56] we get into the details, I'm so sorry. Before we get into the details about the

[11:01] project, I wanted to give a little bit of a background regarding the actual

[11:04] property in question. So, the subject site is comprised of five distinct

[11:08] parcels of land as mentioned totaling approximately 14.8 acres. It does

[11:13] contain both a commercial future land use classification and um f um zoning

[11:19] and is in a commercial zoning district. It is

[11:27] it is located within the town's urban corridor design district. And the intent

[11:31] and purpose of tonight's ordinance, as mentioned, is to approve a reszoning of

[11:36] the property from C1 commercial to PUD planned unit development, approval of

[11:41] the companion development agreement and preliminary subdivision plan, and

[11:45] approve architectural building elevations. And just a little bit of the

[11:48] anatomy of why this is all being approved under a single ordinance. In

[11:52] order to reszone to a planned unit development, you you need to create a

[11:56] set of guidelines and restrictions by which that PUD is allowed to develop to.

[12:01] Hence the exhibit to a PUD is a development agreement which outlines the

[12:07] regulations that we'll get into later in the presentation. And then serving as an

[12:10] exhibit to that development agreement is the preliminary subdivision plan which

[12:14] contains the civil site plan and layout, the landscaping plan that we'll take a

[12:19] look at and the architectural elevations that we'll also view. So that's kind of

[12:23] the if you will layer cake that comprises the ordinance that's before

[12:26] you this evening. Looking at the site location map here,

[12:30] the five parcels of land mentioned, the only cutout from a clean rectangle is

[12:34] the um the existing tractor supply store.

[12:43] And looking at the actual proposal itself, so the Oakland Town Center is

[12:46] proposed to comprise of 11 singlestory commercial buildings of varying sizes

[12:51] and configurations ranging from an approximately 10,000

[12:55] square foot larges scale retail building all the way down to a singular 1,200 ft

[13:01] drive-thru building. In addition to that, this does include a little less

[13:05] than 7 thou 17,000 square feet of open space which can comprise of plazas,

[13:12] outdoor seating areas. Could be largely dependent on what kind of tenants end up

[13:15] moving into the commercial spaces. The property the project would be accessed

[13:21] via via five distinct access points and it would also include a newly

[13:26] constructed roadway by the developer that would be that is intended to be

[13:30] dedicated to the town as a public rideway.

[13:34] Because of the very steep elevation grade which totals approximately 14 15

[13:38] feet from north going all the way down to the southern corner. This project is

[13:43] being built w with Phil and in an incorporated retaining wall which we'll

[13:47] take a look at on the site plan. So giving a little bit more visual credence

[13:53] to the project, you can see here the the layout of the 11 buildings. The blue

[13:58] spaces are those proposed outdoor amenity plaza areas. You can see several

[14:04] intermingled throughout the proposed buildings.

[14:08] Each arrow contain is a distinct access point. Two off of Katherine Ross, two

[14:13] off of the cross access with the tractor supply and one here off of State Road

[14:18] 50. And you can see this area is the portion kind of beginning the beginnings

[14:24] of a cross access in that area. And as mentioned that is intended to be

[14:28] dedicated to the town.

[14:34] So here's a lands here is the proposed landscape plan. Should be noted as I

[14:38] mentioned both the civil and landscape the entire plan set that does comprise

[14:43] the preliminary subdivision plan that will be tied to the companion

[14:47] development agreement for this proposed reszoning. As you can see here, I did

[14:51] want to highlight, it's a little hard to see at this scale, but during the when

[14:55] the project went before the appearance review board meeting, there was a

[14:58] semi-informal discussion about the desire to have a little bit more

[15:02] landscape screening in between the commercial buildings and the educational

[15:05] facility to the north. This was not list this was not explicitly listed as a

[15:10] condition of the project's approval by the appearance review board but upon

[15:15] going to the planning and zoning board the applicant group did incorporate the

[15:18] additional screening which you can faintly see through in between the

[15:23] clusters of trees along the northern side of the property.

[15:30] So as mentioned uh with this resoning there will need to be a set of

[15:34] guidelines by which the development is to build to. So part of the companion

[15:39] development agreement is outlining what what kind of tenants can go into these

[15:43] spaces. The list is wide ranging as you can see here um quote unquote limited to

[15:50] commercial retail office restaurant with no more than one drive-thru. That's an

[15:54] important caveat. Educational and clinic uses. It also does specifically outline

[15:59] what cannot go into these facilities which as noted here are smoke and

[16:04] tobacco shops and marijuana dispensaries and shops.

[16:10] In addition to this, there are specific outlined negotiated deviations from the

[16:15] standard code requirements that were negotiated and are incorporated into the

[16:19] language of the development agreement. As as an example, explicitly in the text

[16:24] of the development agreement is the allowance for commercial buildings to

[16:28] along State Road 50 to go up to 240 ft in width to account for the size and

[16:35] visibility. Whereas the general land development code, as an example, allows

[16:40] large store building types to go up to 150 ft in width. And it should be noted

[16:46] that the preliminary subdivision plan is incorporated as an exhibit, but is only

[16:51] the governing reference document. Um, in order for instruction to actually begin

[16:56] on this project, it still would need to go through final engineering review at

[16:59] which point we would make sure we would go through the town review team to make

[17:03] sure that all the elements would work or designed properly. And it's at that

[17:07] point that we would also ensure that all outside permitting entities such as the

[17:12] water management district, Orange um Orange County and the like um have

[17:17] reviewed and provided their approval of the proposal.

[17:25] So, as part of this, separate from those variations that are baked into the

[17:29] development agreement through the ability of the appearance review board

[17:33] to make recommendations on dimensional variances to the town's to the town's

[17:37] design district requirements, the applicant did provide a specific list of

[17:42] several variances that they were that they prop proposed and were reviewed by

[17:48] both the ARB and planning the appearance review board and the planning and zoning

[17:51] board.

[17:55] So briefly touching on those um variations here, the first is commercial

[18:00] building fenistration, the measure of openings in the facade of the building.

[18:04] The town's general code requires 60% building fenestration on all public or

[18:09] right-of-way facing portions of a building. an alternative measure or

[18:14] methodology was con uh proposed by the applicant group for a variety of reasons

[18:19] not or I guess most significantly because of the large elevation required

[18:24] by the retaining wall. A lot of the commercial foot traffic is going to be

[18:28] focused on the interior rather than you know having somebody climb the retaining

[18:33] wall to reach the buildings walking along the sidewalk on State Road 50.

[18:38] The last two do pertain to monument signage. The town does allow a single

[18:44] groundmounted sign per development as part of the proposal, and we'll touch on

[18:49] locations and designs a little later in the presentation, but the applicant does

[18:54] propose three monument signs rather than one. In addition to that, two for two of

[19:00] those signs, they are requesting the maximum copy area to be 51 square feet,

[19:05] whereas the land development code does pro for properties or for projects along

[19:09] State Road 50, uh, by definition, it does allow 48 square feet. So 3-foot

[19:14] addition there.

[19:19] So, I'll go through these fairly quickly, but here we're just going to go

[19:23] building by building to take a look at the proposed elevations and design of

[19:28] these buildings. And I did, because it did get confusing when I was making

[19:31] this, I did have a helpful little key here to show you which building we are

[19:35] looking at. So, here we're looking at one of the interior buildings.

[19:41] This is an example of one of the buildings directly fronting State Road

[19:45] 50. Another interior.

[19:52] The other building directly on State Road 50.

[20:04] This one has its end cap facing Katherine Ross Road. Lastly, this is the

[20:09] building that has its primary frontage along Katherine Ross Road. Now, the last

[20:14] two are a little bit different. So this is a proposed two tenant building list

[20:19] on the southoutheast west I'm sorry southwest portion of the property and as

[20:25] mentioned the development agreement does restrict a maximum of a single

[20:28] drive-through facility and this is the general proposed design of what that

[20:33] drive-through building would look

[20:45] Now, here are preliminary design renderings of what the proposed signs

[20:49] look like. So, as you can see here on this on the key plan, there are proposed

[20:53] to be two of these, and these are the primary, as you can say, shopping center

[20:57] signs that show the list of tenants. There's proposed to be one at the

[21:01] entrance, the primary entrance on State Road 50 and another at the secondary

[21:07] entrance on Katherine Ross Road. And here you can see kind of the

[21:13] keyynote sign which will have a few anchored which is proposed to have a few

[21:16] anchor tenants but would more serve as a introduction visibility

[21:22] um provide visibility for the project.

[21:30] So going a little bit into the staff analysis as mentioned the project is

[21:33] located within the town's urban corridor design district and the intent of this

[21:38] design district is to accommodate mixeduse projects larger scale

[21:43] developments on major transportation corridor

[21:46] and through that the proposed development is consistent due to its

[21:50] supporting of commercial uses with local and regional accessibility along a major

[21:55] commercial thoroughare there. Additionally, the project would

[21:58] facilitate the redevelopment of an underutilized and vacant property along

[22:02] that major transportation corridor and it and could facilitate economic

[22:07] investment and support job creation within the town.

[22:12] Looking at where the project has been before this evening, it was re reviewed

[22:16] by the appearance review board at their August 4th meeting. Um, ARB did

[22:22] recommend unanimously to approve the project as presented, including the

[22:26] requested deviations. The same can be said of the planning and

[22:31] zoning board at last week's meeting on August 18th.

[22:36] So, that being said, staff does find the

[22:40] proposed Oakland Town Center substantially compliant with the town's

[22:43] Land Development Code design district requirements and do recommend approval

[22:47] of ordinance 2026-05 as presented and provided with your

[22:51] agenda item. Looking to the next steps, the project

[22:56] would next go before you all as a town commission again for second for second

[23:01] and final reading on September 9th. And that does conclude staff's

[23:07] presentation, but the applicant almost the entirety of the applicant group is

[23:11] here and um they also have a presentation that they would like to

[23:14] give you. So I'm available for any questions or we can wait till after they

[23:19] speak. Thank you all.

[23:26] » Good evening, mayor and commissioners. Logan Obsol 215 North Yola Drive, land

[23:30] use council for the project. And thank you, Taylor. Taylor's done this

[23:34] presentation three times now and has done a great job every time. So, thank

[23:37] you. Um, I I'll go through my presentation rather briefly because

[23:42] again, Taylor gave you a really good in-depth overview, but want to offer the

[23:46] commission some some visuals of the project um and what it looks like

[23:50] because it's we're really excited to make this kind of a entrance to to the

[23:54] town. Um so so here are some of the renderings and I think what you pick up

[23:58] from this is is the unique look not just of one buildings but all the building

[24:03] you know there was a lot of discussion both at ARB and and planning uh about uh

[24:09] the finestration and and the look and I I'll get to that in a moment but uh what

[24:14] you'll see in these following slides is the way this project's organized and

[24:18] laid out um is a way to to allow uh folks to gather a true destination for

[24:24] the town. Um, and then also have some practical considerations like pedestrian

[24:28] safety and site circulation, those sorts of items. We can go to the next slide.

[24:36] » Yeah. So, we go back one real quick. Yeah. I just want to address this one

[24:40] here because this was discussed at at planning commission. Um, and again, that

[24:44] goes to pedestrian safety. You again, you'll see this on other slides, but the

[24:48] way that this project is laid out, it's not just one straight line of of tenon

[24:54] bays. Um, what you see there, particularly in the bottom right hand

[24:57] corner, is a lot of features, uh, water features, courtyards, again, gathering

[25:02] places, um, and and all the while allowing for, uh, safe pedestrian

[25:08] safety, uh, and then vehicle site circulation as well. Go to the next

[25:12] slide.

[25:16] So some of the features here, not just the water features, but the lighting,

[25:19] the courtyards. Uh there are bays all around this project, some behind the

[25:24] buildings and on the side, but a focus on that courtyards to allow people uh to

[25:28] gather and connect and and have some some really strong viability for these

[25:33] tenants. We can go to the next slide. So we'll talk a little bit about the

[25:39] signs as well. Um, you know, a lot of work's been going into this project to

[25:44] get us here tonight. And and Taylor talked about that, the PUD ordinance,

[25:47] the development agreement that goes with it, of course, the site plan. Um, all of

[25:52] which uh represents monthsl long and year plus of of work uh with your staff

[25:58] and coordinating. Um, PUB zoning ordinances and jurisdictions, when I

[26:02] discuss them, right, I always say they're negotiated zoning standards. um

[26:07] they allow for what can be allowed on a project, but also what can't be. Um and

[26:13] all of those items as it relates to design standards ensure that the project

[26:17] meets or exceeds your code standards. And where they don't, uh there's certain

[26:22] trade-offs to allow for a logical and successful site design. Now, the three

[26:27] that's before you tonight that differ slightly from the code that are

[26:30] specifically being called out is the finestration, the monument sign, and

[26:34] then the sign square footage. uh 60% building fenestration is the code

[26:40] requirement and we're offering a blend of those percentages. So some meet and

[26:43] exceed and and some are slightly below but that's twofold. One is to provide a

[26:48] unique look across the project again not just that bland uh strip that you that

[26:54] you typically see in other areas and also functionality uh of of the tenant

[27:00] bays. This is a direct response in the design by architecture team and our

[27:04] engineering team of of what the market is is demanding from tenants and we'll

[27:10] talk about those in a second. The the second is the monument signs uh the

[27:14] three versus one and and Taylor showed you on the site plan how those are laid

[27:19] out. Um and you'll see in in other slides and including this one it also

[27:24] helps to break up uh some of the retaining wall area. Um, but this is

[27:29] also serves the important use of placemaking

[27:34] uh and wayfinding. You know, this is out on 50. It's a it's a high-speed road, so

[27:39] we want to make sure folks see the signs and and what's being offered there, but

[27:43] also too, this is a gateway into the town. Um it's this is something you know

[27:48] Alex came up um on previous hearings and he he talked a lot about some of the

[27:54] class A tenants that we're looking to attract here that you see in Winter Park

[27:56] that you see in Winter Garden. But what we're offering with this design um is

[28:00] something that's uniquely Oakland and and with that came the name. And then we

[28:05] want to make sure that we have attractive signs to to attract people to

[28:08] the town to this development and and what's being offered. Um and the last is

[28:13] the signage square footage which is the We're suggesting 51 square footage

[28:18] versus the the 48. So, just a slight deviation there. I think now's a good

[28:22] time while we while we look at the tenants signage to uh talk a little bit

[28:26] about some of the tenants that we're looking to attract here.

[28:33] » Hey everybody, I'm Alexi with Collers. I'm a brokerage company based in

[28:36] Orlando, Florida. Um I work on groundup development leasing in in Orlando.

[28:41] Winter Park Village is one of those that we just finished. um Icon Park and Otown

[28:46] West in uh Sand Lake and Plum Parkway. Um I've been hired by the team here to

[28:51] do um the leasing of this project and really try to bring in a very curated

[28:54] mix of tenants to this project. So we are focused on some great restaurant

[28:59] anchor tenants that are new to market or even local restaurants that are very

[29:04] popular and wellknown. Um so some of the tenants for example that we're talking

[29:07] to is Agave Aul who could be a great anchor for this project right up in

[29:11] front. Um, Baratalia is another one that we recently signed in Winter Park and

[29:15] they're still looking for new opportunities as well. Sushi Saint and

[29:18] Good Salt Group are local restaurants here in Orlando. They're very local

[29:22] favorites and they're voted, you know, best of Orlando regularly. So, those are

[29:26] restaurants that are looking for new opportunities. And we're since there's

[29:29] not too much capacity right now in Winter Garden on Plant Street and

[29:33] Claremont's kind of capped out, we're a great spot for these restaurants to look

[29:37] at and feed both of those markets. Um some of the other tenants that we're

[29:40] looking at some dessert curated users like your Jenny's Blended Ice Cream,

[29:45] Salt and Straw and Mayday Ice Cream also looking in the area. And then of course

[29:49] looking for some great curated local shops that uh coffee shops where people

[29:53] can sit and work and spend some time and where community kind of comes together.

[29:57] And a part of that, you know, the signage is important and the 16,000

[30:01] square feet of amenity space that we have with these big courtyards. That's

[30:04] an opportunity for these communities to come together and gather. Restaurant

[30:08] patios are super important here as well. Um and then of course targeting some

[30:12] great local services, you know, service related uses that are really going to

[30:15] feed daily needs. And then health and wellness concepts. Um so Solid Core

[30:19] Pilates is another group that's looking out here. Barry's Boot Camp and Pause.

[30:24] Um which is one of those like sauna, you know, uh cold plunge type places. And

[30:28] then breakfast is huge. With the church being next door, we definitely want like

[30:32] a great fullervice breakfast concept. So, we're talking with Purvea and

[30:36] Motech. Those are concepts out of Miami um that have multiple locations and very

[30:41] great healthy farmtotable type food. Thank you.

[30:47] » Thank you, Lexi. >> Do we hear anything about macaronis and

[30:49] meatballs anywhere in there?

[30:55] » We found our new uh anchor tenant right there.

[30:58] We can go to the next slide, please.

[31:05] So, in addition to the signage, uh I think that this slide does a good job of

[31:09] of demonstrating the landscaping that'll go on too and and allowing again for

[31:14] this kind of class A space and and an attractive welcome to the town. Go to

[31:18] the next slide.

[31:23] Looking down at the site plan, this slide will help show how the signs are

[31:28] uh located on the overall project. that one on the corners that's your bottom

[31:32] right uh is in front of the retaining wall area um and there's also some storm

[31:39] water compensation areas there as well um and I believe the next slide has

[31:44] landscape

[31:49] yeah thank you so Taylor Taylor discussed this as well during staff's

[31:53] presentation but one of the items we we heard back from ARB uh was having some

[31:58] additional landscaping so our team got right on and amended our landscape plan

[32:02] to provide for some additional landscaping which is up there in the top

[32:06] right corner of the site plan to allow to some some break up of the viewshed

[32:12] there. Um and then also importantly that rightaway area which I think is going to

[32:16] be a huge benefit to the connectivity of the town um and access to this to this

[32:21] town center as well. Just have one slide. Yeah. So, uh, wanted to touch a

[32:27] little bit too on the economic economic impact that this project can provide to

[32:31] the town. So, I'm gonna invite up Castell to talk a little

[32:38] » Good evening everyone. Mr. Mayor, [sighs]

[32:41] commissioners, um, we're very excited about this project obviously and um, we

[32:45] rent some some numbers for you and we try to be actually conservative. So what

[32:49] you see here is what we're anticipating probably you know the first couple of

[32:53] years as the uh development grows and um like Alex mentioned a couple of uh weeks

[32:58] ago would rather normally just underpromise and overd deliver. So, we

[33:01] think as far as, you know, uh the private project investment, you know,

[33:05] it's going to be somewhere around 20 to $25 million. And, uh, we wanted to just

[33:09] kind of show you how a tax revenue would look at an assessed value of 20 to $30

[33:14] million, which would be probably, like I said, around inception in the first

[33:18] couple of years. And, um, we're looking at a total annual property tax value,

[33:23] you know, of up to 610,000. And we actually broke down the town's portion

[33:28] of that. And you see that on the last column. So we have, you know, 135 to

[33:32] 203,000 a year in actual town um benefits. But of course, as you know, um

[33:38] a lot of that six 10 will go to schools and so on and so forth. So we would

[33:42] think there's probably an benefits and um as the project grows, as you probably

[33:47] all know, most likely assessed value will grow with it, too. So we expect

[33:51] these two to grow, but we wanted to give you a bit of a a bit of a start. So we

[33:55] can go to the next slide. And um we also understand that you know of course

[34:00] there's direct property tax impact but there's other benefits to the town. So

[34:05] one of them would be um you know employment and we put as local jobs

[34:09] because we think it will attract a lot of u a lot of um you know local local

[34:13] employment and we estimate permanent jobs anywhere from 450 to 550. Uh we've

[34:17] used you know standard u per square foot data to just kind of you know give you a

[34:22] bit of an estimate. Um we try to just kind of blend, you know, from the blend

[34:26] of tenants and everything. We expect about a4 million dollars a year in

[34:30] business activity and um um you know, just payroll alone probably 18 to 20

[34:36] million. Um and then you see the total sales tax uh generated would probably

[34:41] you know think it's going to be around $2 million a year. And um I hope you're

[34:45] just as excited as we are. You know, we're hoping to beat these numbers. Our

[34:50] success is your success and your success is ours. So um I think with that turn it

[34:55] back unless you had any questions on this

[35:02] go to the next slide. Uh and I'll just conclude here again a lot of work has

[35:07] gone into this project and excited and exciting is the adjectives we keep

[35:12] using. Um this this project in this area it's it's a no-brainer and and this is a

[35:18] this is something that we view as really successful. We spent a lot of time

[35:23] working with FD and other applicable permitting agencies uh to take care of

[35:29] some of the site constraints and the design. And uh I just want to again

[35:33] thank your staff for for all of the considerable time and effort they put

[35:38] into this. We're excited to get this project going. We're happy to answer any

[35:41] questions. Thank you. >> Thank you, Logan. Appreciate it. Um

[35:47] let's do this first. This is an ordinance. It is a public hearing. So,

[35:51] let's open it up to anybody in the public. Then we'll bring it back to our

[35:54] the table here and then we'll ask our questions on that. Does anybody in the

[35:58] audience have any questions or anything? Yes.

[36:02] Claire, there's a seat up here if you want to sit. There's a seat up here. You

[36:06] good?

[36:10] » Ed would offer you

[36:16] Ed Kulicowski 51 Vanir Street. So, uh, so I think this project is is pretty

[36:21] nice and I think it'll add a lot of value to us. But I do have two

[36:24] questions. Number one, if if I understand the plan correctly, there's

[36:29] going to be a retaining wall along State Route 50. I'm curious how tall that's

[36:34] going to be. Um, that that will be a real visual impediment to uh getting

[36:39] into this project, especially if it's really tall. And so I'd like to hear the

[36:44] developers comments on that. Number two, I'd like to uh understand the

[36:49] development plan. Is this going to be a phased development where we have a few

[36:54] buildings and get some tenants and then build some more or is it going to be

[36:58] accomplished as a single build uh and open for uh for teny and business as as

[37:05] a whole complete project? >> You guys want to address those?

[37:15] Good evening. Brent Lensen with Kimley Horn, the engineer of record for the

[37:19] project, 200 South Orange Avenue, Sweet 600. Um, so the topography, I was hoping

[37:23] this question would come up because the team did a great job presenting, but I

[37:26] was hoping I'd have some sort of role here tonight. Um,

[37:33] hold, please. >> I like hers better. [laughter]

[37:39] So, as Taylor mentioned in the presentation,

[37:43] the rectangle that's held out that prevents this whole property being a

[37:46] rectangle is the existing tractor supply. So, if you look at that site

[37:50] when it was developed, there's an existing dry retention pond to the right

[37:53] side of it on the east side. And that dry retention detention area does

[37:58] benefit some of the property area that this proposed development is a part of.

[38:03] The nuance is if you come in the site right on the entrance to tractor supply,

[38:06] you can realize those out parcels right along 50 are much lower. Hydraulically,

[38:11] we know water can't flow uphill. So storm water wise, you have to raise the

[38:15] site to get water up to the dry pond. In addition, for the balance of the site,

[38:20] we are conveniently or inconveniently located within a recharge basin area

[38:24] where you're required to first flush storm water through dry pre-treatment.

[38:29] So it forces infiltration into the aquifer. Um, we have additional nutrient

[38:33] requirements for being in a popka basin. So, from a design standpoint, apologies

[38:38] for the technical jargon, but this is not a great storm water management basin

[38:42] to be in. Um, so there's additional storage, treatment, nutrient removal

[38:46] required. So, all those things being said, that's why that large rectangular

[38:51] white space you see on the plan is an expanded dry retention area. Um, and

[38:56] then what can't get to that area, you'll see on the lower right hand corner

[39:00] there's the boomerang. So that is an elevated higher dry pre-treatment and

[39:05] then it gets to the triangular lower pond area which is going to be your

[39:08] traditional wet detention storm water pond. So that's the pond that'll have

[39:14] water in it all the time. All those other areas will be dry. Um, so all that

[39:18] to say this project is really all those regulations are required by St. John's

[39:22] River Water Management District. uh we have secured a permit through St. John's

[39:25] River Water Management District for this project and to make the master

[39:29] infrastructure and storm water management work. That is why the site

[39:33] has to be up as high as it is. Um so as you come along 50 and you start at the

[39:37] entry on the far left side of this plan, you'll start with a wall that ultimately

[39:41] holds up higher as 50 drops down there. So at the main entry, that rotating wall

[39:47] is going to be close to 10 feet tall. And that's just the reality like Taylor

[39:50] mentioned that the true dimension from the far or elevation from the far

[39:55] northwest corner where the tractor supply pond is to the water in the

[39:58] existing ditch of the southeast, it's 18 feet. It goes from a 114 to a 96.

[40:04] There's a lot of grade change. It's it's misleading. I drove by the site again

[40:07] this this evening coming here. I was like, man, it doesn't look like 18 feet,

[40:10] but it truly is. Um, so there's a lot of engineering challenges that force the

[40:14] plan to demand a retaining wall along 50. Um, there are some challenges with

[40:20] that. I can understand from a visibility standpoint, but truly the way this

[40:24] project has been designed to almost internally centralize the focus of the

[40:27] development. The intent is to really separate from 50. 50 is not a very

[40:31] pedestrian walkable corridor. Um, so within this development, having the

[40:36] multiple buildings facing each other, it creates more of a town center feel,

[40:39] which is what the project's really being designed for.

[40:42] That's kind of how we've had to counteract the topography and the

[40:44] elevation change throughout the site. I hope that helped answer that question.

[40:51] [laughter] >> That's the highest by the height of that

[40:53] ceiling right there, man. >> Mayor, commissioners, my name is Alex

[40:56] Ree. I'm one of the managers in the project. Um, from a lease up standpoint,

[41:02] the uh the goal is is to do a single build. It's really predicated on tenant

[41:08] uh lease up, right? because you don't want to build something and not have a

[41:12] tenant there. There's a there's a lot of specs that go into each individual

[41:16] tenant. So, some tenants want, you know, different courtyard stuff. They want

[41:20] different things in their building, whether it's grease traps or restroom

[41:25] locations or things. So, our idea as it sits now is to do the engineering at one

[41:31] time and kind of get it pad ready and and lease up the project. Again, we're

[41:37] going to ICSE at the end of the uh at the end of the the month and we've got a

[41:41] lot of appointments. Um this is a very very very popular

[41:47] site. Uh thank goodness. It's um it's a when we first got the engineering, we

[41:53] about fell out of our chair. All right. Because nobody wants to build a 10-ft

[41:57] retaining wall and nobody wants to put $7 million in engineering work on a

[42:02] site, right? That's that was crazy. Uh what we've kind of come away with is

[42:07] this creates an oasis for the town. You know, you kind of have to make lemonade

[42:12] sometimes out of lemons. And so the way this sits up now, it'll have a lot of

[42:16] privacy. It'll cut down all the road noise from Highway 50. It'll give a very

[42:22] unique feel to the center. You're not going to feel like you're on Highway 50.

[42:26] You're going to feel like you're in a a place way off of Highway 50 with

[42:30] fountains and nice pedestrian walkways and nice landscaping. It's going to feel

[42:35] very different. We've added golf cart parking as well. And our goal is to

[42:39] create a very winter park, winter garden feeling to this, right? We want to we

[42:44] want to bring something to the community that everybody in the community

[42:48] participates in and comes over and wants to have dinner, wants to do something in

[42:51] this particular town center. Um, we're very proud of it. We named it uh Oakland

[42:57] Town Center because we wanted to be a marquee for the town of Oakland. Um, we

[43:02] think that this is going to help bridge uh, Highway 50, if you will, into the

[43:07] town in a very nice, meaningful way. Uh, and I hope we do have a full lease up.

[43:11] We'll know more about that. Maybe on the second reading I can answer that in more

[43:16] detail, you know, but we do have a lot of great interested tenants that we're

[43:19] very grateful that we have. There's a lot of interest because of the close

[43:24] proximity to Horizon's West obviously to the south.

[43:29] You know, Winter Garden right to the east and you have Claremont to the west.

[43:34] You and you're blocked by, you know, Lake Aapka. So, there's just a lot of

[43:38] trips per day through here. And there's a lot of uh how should I put this? the

[43:43] the the type of uh folks that live in these areas are very in high demand for

[43:49] a lot of these retailers and a lot of these uh food businesses and stuff. So,

[43:54] to that end, um we're very excited. So, hopefully that answered the the question

[43:59] for you. >> Thanks, Alex. I like how you put the

[44:01] success and failure on this project on the leasing broker. So, that's good. Uh

[44:07] yeah, absolutely. Any anyone else have any questions or comments in the public?

[44:13] Okay. So, seeing nothing else, we'll close the public hearing and bring it

[44:16] back here. And Commissioner Keller, do you want to start off?

[44:21] » I have a few things, but I first I want to say that I'm very excited about this

[44:24] project. I think it is um wonderful that you all see the potential here. Um I did

[44:30] cheat and watch the PNZ meeting because I wanted to get some more information.

[44:34] So, I was excited to hear about some of the entities that are considering space

[44:39] and whatnot. So, um, and again, thank you for thinking of Oakland. So, I have

[44:43] a couple of things. They might sound a little nitpicky, I have to confess, but

[44:47] I there are things that I think are kind of important to address. And I'll just

[44:52] start with the first one which again love the project but I'm a little

[44:57] concerned about the Oakland Town Center because we do have our town center here

[45:01] that we kind of consider the core of the town the historic downtown of our of our

[45:07] town and um we do have plans to do you know development down Tub Street and

[45:12] whatnot. So, um, personally, I understand wanting to call that.

[45:18] Again, I love the feel of that space and how it's going to be, but that's just

[45:23] something that I don't know if anybody else has any feelings about that, but I

[45:27] definitely um want to put that out there and anyone else can. Obviously, I'm one

[45:33] vote. We're all one vote. Um, it's not a deal breakaker, but it's just something

[45:37] that I think is important because we do have our downtown center here and I just

[45:43] want to make sure we don't take away from that. So, that would be something

[45:46] that is important to me. Um, another thing is the and again I understand

[45:52] there's going to be a ginormous retaining wall along 50, but um,

[45:57] particularly I think it's really I think it's building two and three that the the

[46:02] ones that or two and four that front Highway 50 above the wall. Um, from the

[46:10] illustrations and the renderings that I've seen, I don't love that kind of

[46:15] back a house look. Um I've been out of town so I didn't have the chance to I

[46:20] wanted to drive through Winter Park and kind of see how 1792 looks because yes

[46:26] um it is elevated and we want to drive everybody to that center core. This

[46:30] really is kind of becoming and you said it yourself a gateway to our town. So,

[46:36] um, I have some concerns about just the backs of those buildings and how they

[46:41] ba, you know, even at a above a wall. I'd like to see something to I drove by

[46:47] like I drove down Sand Lake Road and I looked at like the Trader Joe's and the

[46:50] developments along Sand Lake Road that have some back of house and they've

[46:54] basically made those back of those buildings look as similar to the front

[46:59] of the building. So, that would be something that I would like to possibly

[47:03] see. uh that could be addressed better. Um or even with landscaping just to make

[47:08] that not so look like the back of a building as you're driving through the

[47:13] gateway of our town, right? Um so bear with me. I'm trying to remember all my

[47:19] scribble here. So, um I'd also be open to if you guys have other developments

[47:24] where you've done this kind of frontage, if you want to give us some ideas on

[47:27] that, I'd be interested in going to see those.

[47:36] And the only other thing is the Katherine Ross Road signage. Um, my only

[47:42] concern is, you know, that's kind of a it's become a main street to cut through

[47:46] to 50, but the fact that it's kind of residential and there's a neighborhood

[47:50] there. Don't love that big sign on Katherine Ross. I'm okay with the other

[47:56] ones and especially that one on the corner I think kind of covers. I know

[47:59] it's only going to be anchored tenants, but I feel like it addresses folks on

[48:04] Katherine Ross. Kathern Ross Road isn't going to, in my opinion, be like a major

[48:08] thoroughfare, but I think it is good to have an access point from Katherine Ross

[48:12] Road. So, those are the kind of the things that are important to me.

[48:16] » You guys want to address anything that >> Yeah. Yeah.

[48:22] I think from a from aation perspective off of 50, I think um what you'll find

[48:29] is that we've we've really made those buildings look not like back of house.

[48:34] Like it's not like a flat building, right? We've we've taken a lot of the

[48:38] architecture and the only thing that it's missing is windows, right? It's

[48:43] missing a window component. Um the buildings are up very high, so it will

[48:49] be very difficult to see it going by, but there's a lot of landscaping. The

[48:53] landscaping is probably going to be the biggest buffer. And so I would say that

[48:58] I think that's been addressed, but I would love to get down with like like

[49:03] maybe get a sit down with you on those buildings particularly and just walk

[49:08] through those buildings. I do want to make clear that um all of your comments

[49:13] are very important to us. Okay. I I uh as a developer, we want to have, you

[49:18] know, we want every vote. We don't want a a majority. We want every single vote

[49:23] here, and we're willing to work for those votes. I think, case in point, um

[49:28] we put some landscaping on the back of the project because there was a uh a

[49:32] person in one of the meetings that was not uh satisfied with the landscaping

[49:36] buffer between our project and the school, which I thought was a was a good

[49:39] idea. We've also added golf cart parking, which was suggested at the last

[49:43] meeting. My point is like this project's already fairly expensive and if we have

[49:50] to do a few things to make sure that you're satisfied with the project, we're

[49:54] happy to do those things. Um, did you want to hit on the other

[50:01] » mentions? Yeah, I I do think they're they're great questions and we we really

[50:05] thought about that actually and and especially the buildings you mentioned.

[50:09] Um, so of course the retaining wall left aside, we thought, okay, well, how can

[50:13] we even make that better? So, um, and and we don't have the full renderings

[50:17] here because we try to keep the presentation just a little shorter. Um,

[50:20] I can even probably send you something that's a a lot more specific to those

[50:24] buildings so you can kind of have a bit of a visual. So, what we did there is,

[50:28] of course, you know, we we added um additional landscaping at the top of the

[50:32] u the wall. And as far as the elevation itself, we kept it identical on the

[50:36] front and the back. So both sides are actually identical. So we kept all the

[50:40] articulation and all the beauty of the front except like Alex mentioned uh we

[50:45] took away the fenestration because in truth we um cost left aside. We actually

[50:50] thought that um because of the height and because of the landscaping we're

[50:53] adding um those 10 12t windows were probably not going to be v visible to

[50:58] begin with. But we did think about that and and purposely um and I can

[51:02] understand your fear because a lot of buildings the back of the buildings

[51:06] they're just flat. So, you know, they forgive all the, you know, forget all

[51:09] the beauty. Um, I'll actually even add further that even the rear buildings

[51:13] that are facing the dry retention, we kept the back of those identical to the

[51:17] front, too. So, we kept all of the bumpouts and all the articulation and

[51:20] everything just to to still, you know, give that beauty. And like I said, I can

[51:24] send you some visuals that are maybe they'll they'll they'll um make you

[51:27] understand it a little bit better. the images that I saw and I I wasn't sure I

[51:31] was get to it where the where those and it's really the like the dry retention

[51:36] pond the back of those buildings I think is less critical but

[51:39] » Oh no I agree >> ones on 50 looked and and again just

[51:43] trying to figure out which building was which building in the renderings I

[51:46] wasn't really 100% sure but it did just you know like there's one where there's

[51:50] like a back of a building and there's like a UPS guy you know they're showing

[51:55] because again fair back of those buildings where they're going to get

[51:58] delivery So either the back of those buildings need to be dressed up a little

[52:02] bit or that landscaping needs to be a little bit higher so you're not really

[52:06] seeing the back of those buildings. >> Again, I understand what you're saying

[52:10] if you're driving on >> bottom

[52:12] » the bottom will be Yeah. >> I thought it was Yeah. So

[52:16] [clears throat] >> and that's going to be 10 feet.

[52:18] » Yeah. And that doesn't show the retaining wall naturally, right?

[52:20] » 10 feet from the people on that side of driving down that side of 50. If you're

[52:25] on the other side, you're going to see the back of that. And you know, again,

[52:29] this is our gateway to our community. And I just want to make sure that it

[52:34] looks welcoming for your project success.

[52:36] » Yeah, 100%. >> And it's again, it's really just those

[52:39] two buildings that I think are the biggest issue because

[52:43] » it just looks a little industrial there because it's just the back of the

[52:47] buildings and >> and it could also be, you know, not to

[52:50] interrupt you, it could also be a fact. It is a rendering obviously, so the

[52:52] landscaping, you know, is representative. Um, of course when the

[52:55] landscape architects and we'll get together with with the town on this too.

[52:58] Of course, you know, they'll they'll have their say as well and I think this

[53:01] was discussed a little bit in the past where you know, of course we can add,

[53:04] you know, something that's that's um, you know, much taller per se. Um, yeah.

[53:10] And but you can >> guess like the door that

[53:13] » Yes. And that is because it's directly eye level too. So I can understand that

[53:17] perfectly. Um if you don't mind I can send you know probably through the town

[53:20] I can send you a couple additional renderings from pedestrian level

[53:23] actually on 50 so you can see but which looks a little bit different and with a

[53:28] little more landscaping and this is what I wanted to point out how the

[53:31] articulation of the building it's identical to the other side. So we

[53:34] didn't really do the flat um building for that purpose alone because it was

[53:39] important for us to um to do that. But I can send you some stuff if that would be

[53:42] okay. Um reminded me one of the things that I forgot to mention and again I

[53:47] know it's been through ARB already. Um >> I again I think it's beautiful. I do

[53:53] feel like, you know, I don't, you know, we're it's I'm struggling because like,

[53:58] you know, we have this like historic downtown and again and this is kind of

[54:03] new and flashy and I think it's great, but I I was surprised that ARB didn't I

[54:08] don't know if they I didn't watch their meeting so I don't know what they

[54:11] addressed, but about, you know, the aesthetic being a little more of our

[54:15] charm for our town. Um I don't want to be a mini winter park. I want us to be

[54:20] uniquely open, you know, and I think that personally I would like to see it

[54:26] maybe a little more old Florida like that's what like my neighborhood was

[54:32] required to do when we built the houses were built at my neighborhood and some

[54:36] of the other house you know developments that's been a thing that you know we've

[54:40] looked at with those um the houses in those neighborhoods was kind of more

[54:44] that old Florida and uniquely Florida. I think there's a way to still do that and

[54:48] still get the kind of clientele that we're hoping for. But again, that again,

[54:53] that's just my personal feeling. >> No, and I think it's, you know, it's a

[54:56] fair point. We It's really tough, right? Because we've thought of so many things

[55:00] and and we've really considered everything. Obviously, you know, we try

[55:03] to think of the community, try to think of the architecture, uh, quality of it,

[55:07] of course, the economic visibility because they all just go together. So,

[55:10] it's like you can't really do one without the other. Um, we try to make it

[55:13] as beautiful as possible. Of course, I'm not going to repeat the outdoor areas or

[55:16] whatever. Even in our architecture, we try to if you look at I mean, I know the

[55:21] renderings are a little smaller, but um we have two different architectural

[55:25] styles that are complementing each other. So, and that allows us to have

[55:29] buildings that are different in although they keep the general, you know, design

[55:33] and look, um but you don't have that retail center where it's like every

[55:37] building is a cookie cutter. they only have two sets of buildings that are um

[55:40] if you want to call it identical, but it's because they're split by courtyard.

[55:44] Um another thing we did is um and this is just kind of an indirect answer to

[55:49] your question because you know it's it's hard for obviously you know that's it's

[55:52] hard to um to change the architecture at this point but even on the variance of

[55:56] um you know the extending the building width to 220 ft I believe it's what it

[56:01] was um we decided not even to use the maximum of that. We've actually split up

[56:05] a lot of the buildings. So, we um we try to like like Alex said, just to make it

[56:10] as >> good for you as possible.

[56:12] » Very old Florida. The landscaping, right? If you look at the landscaping,

[56:15] we used a great deal of of palm trees and made it kind of old Florida in that

[56:19] regard because we don't want to lose that as well. I mean, here's the thing.

[56:23] We're not trying to come in and do some shiny project, right? We're our goal is

[56:27] to drive something that feels like it belongs here. Okay? I think that was

[56:32] kind of the um the benefit frankly of having it raised up, you know, because

[56:36] when it first was raised up, we thought the project was just not feasible. I

[56:40] mean, it was there was a period of time where it looked like, hey, with the kind

[56:43] of engineering work that it's going to take to do this project, this is better

[56:47] suited for, you know, something other than us. And uh and so over time, kind

[56:53] of the benefit of of being on Highway 50 is that rents have gone up. and the

[56:58] rents that have gone up have sort of allowed us to fund a project like this.

[57:02] This is a very very nice project. It's a it's definitely not a cookie cutter

[57:07] project. It's a highclass project. Yes, it's a forward-looking

[57:12] uh architecture. Um but it's not leaving Oakland behind forward. It's the the

[57:18] landscaping and the lushness of it I think really helps blend kind of what's

[57:22] modern today with what is still, you know, Oakland. I I I think it goes well

[57:27] with the city. Obviously, you know, everyone is entitled to their to their

[57:30] opinion, but I really like it for the town. I think the landscaping alone and

[57:34] the height of it is going to create this oasis for for the town to come and and

[57:39] gather. So, as far as the sound sign on Katherine Ross,

[57:44] the reason we added that sign uh was the fact that we felt like there were going

[57:47] to be quite a few people coming down Katherine Ross that would want to know

[57:52] what's in the center without having to get on 50. and that marquee, albeit if

[57:57] you are turning on Katherine Ross, you do see those four uh key tenants, if you

[58:02] will, but when you turn on to Katherine Ross, you you don't see the majority of

[58:08] the tenants in in the center. And what we thought is we thought hoped if you

[58:12] will, we hoped that a lot of people in the town came over and they were on golf

[58:17] carts and and came from the town and they could see what was in the center

[58:20] through that sign and that was kind of a gateway for them to to look at and see

[58:24] and recognize those tenants that again we're trying to inventory this. Um, you

[58:30] guys did a uh a study about seven or eight years ago and uh and I read that

[58:35] study and and what what I took away from that study was that you guys wanted a

[58:39] lot of restaurants that were like farm-to-table good quality stuff like

[58:42] quality food restaurants. We're not slapping this full of, you know, Fortune

[58:47] 500 companies, right? This isn't, you know, McDonald's and Chick-fil-A and,

[58:52] you know, everything else. And and a lot of that is uh a lot of those deals are

[58:56] deal driven, meaning that you know the reason Chick-fil-A goes somewhere and

[59:00] the reason a lot of these big majors go places is because they sell for a cap

[59:03] rate and their cap rates are very low. And so from a financial perspective,

[59:08] they're very desirable to have in a center, right? So we kind of uh I mean

[59:13] obviously in some respects I I just want you to understand like the the dollars

[59:17] and cents of this. We shun that and we said no, we don't that's not our goal

[59:22] here. Our goal is to create something that's going to survive the next 10, 20,

[59:26] 30 years and grow with the town and have a lot of boutique feel to it. And when I

[59:31] suggest Winter Park or or Winter Garden, I'm not suggesting that we want to make

[59:36] it, you know, Winter Park or Winter Garden. What I'm suggesting is what

[59:40] those towns have done very well, I think, is they've kept like a very

[59:44] boutique feel to their town. It's a very unique feel, right? They didn't you

[59:50] don't they didn't sell out to just all these major retailers. And that's what

[59:54] I'm saying when I talk about that. I'm I'm I'm saying that we're not going to

[59:57] do that. We're not going to bring in, you know, all Fortune 500 companies and

[1:00:01] all these big mass uh you know, retailers. So, was there there's one

[1:00:06] more question that you had? Um I I for I apologize. The name I'm happy to change

[1:00:11] the name, right? If you guys want to change the name, I'm happy to change the

[1:00:15] name. We thought the name was cool. I like the name because of the fact that

[1:00:19] it was Oakland Town Center. I wanted to we wanted to advertise it as a town

[1:00:23] center feel. But your point is well taken. We do not want to cannibalize

[1:00:28] your town center and we do not want to take over your town center. So I'm happy

[1:00:33] to come to the next reading with five different names and we can all talk

[1:00:37] about the names. That's easy change and it's not like we're beholden to that. So

[1:00:42] that's easy. Thank you for considering that because I think it's an amazing

[1:00:46] project and I and I don't want to have things that make you scared to not come

[1:00:52] here and not do this because we >> No, we're not scared. I mean, look, this

[1:00:56] is a partnership, right? And we need feedback from from everyone here. Uh

[1:01:00] it's a partnership. I mean, you're trusting us and we're trusting you. This

[1:01:03] is a lot of money for our group. All right. Um you know, we're not Unicor,

[1:01:07] right? That's a big project for us. And so we're here to do something that's a

[1:01:12] that's a big project that we've picked Oakland to do it in because we think the

[1:01:16] city uh is ready for this project and we think the

[1:01:21] people that we've worked with have been super supportive of the project. But

[1:01:24] honestly, we think it's going to be feasible for us to make money on this

[1:01:28] project. Uh we're not looking to to to to make all the money in the world on

[1:01:32] this project. We're looking to develop a project that everyone in this room can

[1:01:36] be proud of that project. That's the goal.

[1:01:39] » I think that's great. We think Oakland's a very special town and I think this is

[1:01:43] a very special project and we're glad that you're considering doing it here.

[1:01:47] » Thank you. Thank you very much. >> That for me.

[1:01:51] » All right. We'll go to Commissioner Molly.

[1:01:54] » Good evening. I just have a few points and I guess I will um begin by tail

[1:02:00] ending some a few of the concerns that um Commissioner Keller brought up. Um

[1:02:06] the name to me was the town center. Again, um I think that with the

[1:02:12] comprehensive plan that we've developed for what we consider to be our town

[1:02:16] center, that project just would not be the center of the town. Um so that's my

[1:02:22] commentary on that. However, I will expound on, you know, our quest for

[1:02:27] commercial development. I think that this is a project that is much needed

[1:02:31] and desired in the area. Um, the plans are diversity of design, are attractive,

[1:02:38] um, and and brings a little character and and maybe people to the town that,

[1:02:42] you know, aren't familiar or pass through and want to be a part of this

[1:02:46] community. So I think that in that vein we've got diversity of down we've got

[1:02:50] fourth and tub we've got this and then the comprehensive plan will come later

[1:02:55] which will address you know some of the character and the intimate nature and

[1:03:00] details that we want to preserve in the town. My only question with regard to

[1:03:05] the landscape plan would be um the area of enhanced screening um between the

[1:03:12] educational space. I kind of wanted to get a a better idea of the visibility

[1:03:18] um and and plan for that separation of the educational space with the project.

[1:03:27] » So as that graphic gets pulled up,

[1:03:35] » so the let's keep it simple. The larger circles are canopy trees. So, the

[1:03:41] initial plan did have the significant cluster towards the right side. Sorry,

[1:03:46] I'm way taller than this microphone. Um, they had the significant cluster on the

[1:03:50] right side already on the plan for buffering. And then we had the spots

[1:03:55] along the storm water management pond, but what has been added is hard to see

[1:03:58] in this image is the dark black strip is a hedge row. Um, so that'd be something

[1:04:03] along the lines of a viburnum, podarpus, something like that that you'd plant

[1:04:06] probably at three or four foot plant height. Um, but that can grow to be

[1:04:10] substantial seven, eight feet easily edged out. So, it's a more opaque buffer

[1:04:15] along that facade just to add some screening from the school.

[1:04:23] We can work with staff during the the engineering and site plan approvals just

[1:04:27] to make sure the planted height is appropriate for having screening day one

[1:04:30] instead of five years later you actually have shrub that you can't see through.

[1:04:34] » Okay. Thank you.

[1:04:38] Okay. So, we've determined that that retaining wall is 10 feet tall going

[1:04:44] down 50 and heading to the west. It kind of goes down a little bit. Is that

[1:04:47] correct?

[1:04:51] » That's just kind of half where I'm going. But

[1:04:53] » yeah, I I want to make sure the image isn't the whole frontage of 50 is a 10

[1:04:56] foot wall because it will not. You're you're going to start at almost nothing

[1:04:59] on the left end of the screen. Start getting it from nothing. It's going to

[1:05:03] grow to 10 feet at the main entry driveway. Then it's going to go to about

[1:05:07] six feet as you get towards the storm water management pond and turn in

[1:05:10] basically go around that triangular >> that

[1:05:13] » so it's not a solid 10 foot blank wall. >> So when it goes around the corner on

[1:05:19] Katherine Ross Road um >> so what it won't

[1:05:24] » massic and it took me like 20 years to be able to say so [laughter]

[1:05:30] um when it goes around there same thing. >> So it won't go around Kathern Ross road.

[1:05:34] So what you see on the plan is we're going to wall up basically that dry

[1:05:38] storm water we'll call it for today's purposes the boomerang pond. So that'll

[1:05:43] be up higher at a higher elevation and it's going to drop down to where that

[1:05:46] wet triangular okay wet pond is. So that pond you see on the corner is going to

[1:05:50] be at grade. It'll be a traditional when you're at Katherine Ross and 50 there's

[1:05:53] no walls right there. >> I got it.

[1:05:55] » Okay. And so and I'm assuming the road to be built is going to probably go

[1:05:59] right back behind the school. >> Correct. Between us and the school. So

[1:06:03] that will almost that will be ground level itself all the way back here. Yes,

[1:06:07] sir. So the building is facing there >> will be

[1:06:11] » Yeah. grade same as the road. >> Chris's point that you want to make sure

[1:06:15] that it's just not a back of a building and I understand it's backing up to the

[1:06:19] school, but there's a few people on the west end of it too that it would go

[1:06:23] behind. So okay. And then uh to be the downer in the room, I do have

[1:06:31] to agree is It's what we need. I And I understand we've been trying to figure

[1:06:35] out how to do this for a long time. Uh it is the project that we need, but I

[1:06:41] mean I I don't know any other way to put it, but in my mind it does not have an

[1:06:45] Oakland look or feel to it. Um we can say the architecture or the the

[1:06:51] landscaping, you know, is old Florida, but the buildings are not. And that's a

[1:06:58] stumbling point for me. I don't know if it's a it's not a deal closure at this

[1:07:01] point, but it definitely doesn't look what we've worked for for the last, you

[1:07:05] know, forever to be that I'll use the word we haven't used in a long time,

[1:07:11] that the Mayberry look. Um, and I don't know if there's anything that

[1:07:15] additionally could dress up some of that at some point or if we're too far past

[1:07:20] that.

[1:07:24] Yeah, I mean we we got a little bit of time for the second reading. So, we'll

[1:07:27] we'll take a look at those things. Um I can't do it as eloquently as Castell and

[1:07:31] Alex, but a lot of thought went into this. Um your points are well taken. I

[1:07:36] think they call that Florida vernacular. Correct. So, we'll look into those items

[1:07:40] for a second. >> Yeah. Just something we be honest with

[1:07:44] you that was a stumbling block with the racetrack for 10 years before we moved

[1:07:48] forward till we could come to an agreement on what it was. I mean, that's

[1:07:51] how much we really want, you know, that look

[1:07:55] to be. But again, the project is what we need here. So, there's not a I don't

[1:08:01] feel that I would want to stop this project. Don't don't get me wrong. But

[1:08:05] if there's a way that we can make it look a little more glory, I guess for

[1:08:10] the the [laughter] word, that's the Jimmy Buffett word, Floridaity.

[1:08:16] » One one thing I wanted to mention is uh you know, we we did add a lot of

[1:08:20] cladding. a lot of brick. I know it's not very visible in the small

[1:08:22] renderings, but you'll find that a lot of the pillars and, you know, next to

[1:08:26] the tenant spaces, you know, we did add some of that brick that kind of reminds

[1:08:28] you of Oakland. So, and I understand your point perfectly. It's not, you

[1:08:31] know, a picture perfect of um identical with Oakland, but we did do that. Um,

[1:08:36] you know, another way to do it, it's lighting, too. Um, you know, and we

[1:08:40] also, um, chose the colors intentfully as well because we wanted to be warm and

[1:08:43] not just like a cold modern look. So, um, and to Logan's point, you know, we

[1:08:47] of course we'll kind of brainstorm a little bit, too, but I wanted to bring

[1:08:50] up the cladding because it is harder to see in the smaller renderings. So, okay.

[1:08:54] » Um, yeah. Well, I appreciate it. >> Thank you.

[1:08:57] » I could just say, so I think it sounds like we just need some different

[1:09:01] renderings. It sounds like you've already kind of made some things that it

[1:09:05] just these renderings look very modern and very square and and I think you know

[1:09:11] maybe it's just that you've got it sounds like you have better renderings

[1:09:14] that would maybe be more in line with what we're

[1:09:17] » that's definitely what we want to do. We want to bring new renderings and and

[1:09:20] share those with you guys with the wall and everything and share the lighting

[1:09:24] that Costell mentioned. there was a lot of uh you know, not to harp on it, but

[1:09:28] the lighting is more of an old school look and so with the landscaping. So, I

[1:09:32] do we do want to share those with you because we did it wasn't lost on us that

[1:09:36] we wanted this to look kind of old Florida. It's just this is the type of

[1:09:40] construction that is being done right now, too. And so, it's um in the sense

[1:09:46] of tenants and and whatnot. Um and there was a you know, I hate to get into it,

[1:09:51] but this is the best looking budget construction. Like if you get

[1:09:57] into just doing everything a completely, you know, different uh elevation, the

[1:10:02] cost can be get just astronomical. It can be kind of like almost impossible to

[1:10:06] do a project in that in that regard. >> Okay.

[1:10:11] » Do your best.

[1:10:14] » Good. Uh okay. Mine uh mine's I'm going to d I'm going to dive into more of the

[1:10:21] developer agreement on on some things. I think Again, I'll echo I it's a it's a

[1:10:26] great project. I'm excited about it. Um and this may be something between

[1:10:31] developer and attorneys and can work out and stuff, but um just on the developers

[1:10:36] agreement there is I'm on page three a permitted and prohibited uses. Um one of

[1:10:42] the things I brought up was educational facilities. I know that some of this is

[1:10:45] probably taken from the code as well. When I think of educational facilities,

[1:10:49] I think and it specifically says in here, not limited to daycare, prek, and

[1:10:53] kindergarten. Um, just to the north is a school with a prek and and a

[1:10:57] kindergarten. Uh, and and just down the street is a Kitty Academy that's uh

[1:11:03] right there. So, um if there's a way that we can strike that educational

[1:11:07] facilities maybe work better with uh if it was a um a tutoring facility or or um

[1:11:14] Gary said Crumb was another one or something like that. So, so I mean those

[1:11:19] would work because they're kind of more of a retail type thing. I what I would

[1:11:23] not want to open it up to is somebody coming in and you leasing it to a

[1:11:27] daycare and they say, "Well, I got to put an outdoor space and I'm just going

[1:11:30] to use part of this plaza and I'm going to fence it in and stuff." So, if we can

[1:11:34] just negate any of that or any of that confusion there, I think that would be

[1:11:38] best. So, maybe in that development agreement, we just kind of break through

[1:11:42] that uh that that issue. Okay, great. Um, and then the other one I had on that

[1:11:49] same section was retail sale of automotive parts. It's not like I want

[1:11:52] an AutoZone or anything like that in the plaza. So, um, I don't believe that that

[1:11:58] uh neither would anybody else. I mean, you wouldn't want to pull your car up

[1:12:02] and the guy walks out with a battery and changes out your car. That gains to stay

[1:12:06] there. >> Yeah.

[1:12:08] » So, just to give you clarity on why we left that in, we left that in because 30

[1:12:12] years from now, right? >> Yeah. We you know yeah I mean in other

[1:12:17] words things happen and and so the reason you leave these in is just to

[1:12:20] give it's not even for our development so I have no problems taking it out just

[1:12:23] be clear why we left it in you want to leave it in with the broadest use

[1:12:26] possible for any future development you know 20 years from now 30 years from now

[1:12:30] that's the reason it was left out >> agreed 30 years we'll be flying in cars

[1:12:34] so absolutely so so we'll we'll we'll just I'll hand these notes to to um the

[1:12:40] town and they can they can relay those through you as well um on from the

[1:12:44] phasing. I think you answered that question, Ed's question. I had a

[1:12:46] question as well. Is it's multiple phases or is it one phase? It's good to

[1:12:50] hear that you're going to try to knock it out in one phase and put all the

[1:12:53] burden on your leasing agent. Um, >> thanks for the golf cart parking. That's

[1:12:59] great. I I think it's going to be a bigger than you think on golf cart

[1:13:03] parking with people, the amount of golf carts that are in this town coming from

[1:13:06] Winter Garden and everywhere. So, um, thank you for doing that. um lighting um

[1:13:12] that you have here on Jay. Um is it possible and I don't think you have it

[1:13:17] in there. You're obviously you're gonna have lighting inside the development and

[1:13:20] and all that. Um is there a possibility to put lighting along Katherine Ross

[1:13:25] along just in front of your pre your your your premises?

[1:13:30] You know, it's like street lighting or something like that to look at. Maybe

[1:13:33] three lamps or something like that to take a look at. Okay.

[1:13:37] With regard to lighting, do we have anything in our code about I know my

[1:13:41] predecessor um dark sky and is it in there?

[1:13:45] » It's in here. Yeah. >> Yeah. That Rick.

[1:13:51] No, it's uh it's definitely in there. Dark skies compliant, which everything

[1:13:54] in Orange County has has to be know. But yeah, if you can and I'll leave the

[1:13:58] again, it's marked up on the site plan. You can just take a look at that, see if

[1:14:01] that's something that we can work together on. Um, and then the other one

[1:14:06] you had down here was storm water and environmental. And I noticed that the

[1:14:08] Motomassic canal, it cuts in front of your wet retention pond and dry pond is

[1:14:14] kind of right there on the edge. Were there any plans to do anything any

[1:14:18] treatments to that versus what it looks like today, which is just a ditch?

[1:14:26] Is it? Well,

[1:14:38] Yeah, we have limitations with what we're actually able to do because it's

[1:14:41] within an easement dedicated. It's DOT drainage, but I don't think there is an

[1:14:45] intent we're going to tie in prior to that existing drainage canal and not

[1:14:49] impact >> because that runs on the property,

[1:14:51] right? On the corner. >> Yeah. On the corner. I I just I you

[1:14:55] know, take a look at it if you would because the reason being is you you'd

[1:14:59] hate to see what it looks like today when you drive through it and you got

[1:15:02] this great project and that's the first thing you're going to see is an open

[1:15:05] ditch. It's a ditch is what it is. And if there's a way to, I don't know, treat

[1:15:10] it, slide, maybe landscaping, maybe hide it where no one sees it or whatever.

[1:15:15] That type of that that type of treatment is what I'm talking about. I'm not

[1:15:19] talking about dig it up or put it in a box cover or anything like that. I'm

[1:15:23] just saying there's a way to kind of >> clean it up and whatnot.

[1:15:26] » There was a point years ago that um Mike Parker who went in there and then

[1:15:30] cleaned it up very nice since overgrown but that you know that whoever owns that

[1:15:35] particular piece because there's like 42 people that own parts of the canal

[1:15:38] believe me a lot about it. Um but there nothing says it can't be like

[1:15:45] cleaned up and dressed up a little bit because you agree with Mary it looks

[1:15:49] pretty bad. >> Sure.

[1:15:51] Um, next one I have is the transportation impact fees and and part

[1:15:55] of the transportation impact fees uh relate to the construction of Saddler

[1:16:01] East Saddler is what it's I guess going to be called uh that runs behind on the

[1:16:06] plan. There's a portion I believe that you're constructing as part of the

[1:16:10] project which is the hatched area. I don't know if that site plans have

[1:16:14] shown. And then there's the other portion that kind of runs half the

[1:16:18] tradition bond behind tractor supply on that in this agreement we had an

[1:16:24] engineer's opinion of probable cost of $477,000

[1:16:28] to construct that road to build that road and within that the town would then

[1:16:34] give you credits towards the project for that. Does that that's the picture right

[1:16:39] there. Perfect. And does that 477 include the entire length from Kathern

[1:16:45] Ross to Star or just the portion that's there?

[1:16:48] » Just the portion that's there. >> Right. No. Sorry. Righted

[1:16:55] is specifically the rideway dedication portion that's coming as part of this

[1:16:58] project. The rest of that stretch already has rightway for it, but that

[1:17:02] cost estimate was for the whole entire way.

[1:17:04] » Okay. So there's a portion that is there a portion that you're building as part

[1:17:08] of your project because you have an entrance coming off

[1:17:11] » that entire line. >> Okay. Right. No, what I'm saying is as

[1:17:14] part of the project, not part of the impact fee credits. So what I'm saying

[1:17:18] is if you're coming off of Kathern Ross, right, where the dark arrow is, and

[1:17:24] you're having to build that to get to your entrance, it looks like on that uh

[1:17:29] north side, is that development? That's the developers

[1:17:34] need prior to coordination with the city or the town on that road, the right

[1:17:40] ofway dedication and the road extension. I I believe our intent was to have the

[1:17:43] four points of access that were also shown already without that northernmost

[1:17:47] connection. >> Okay. I just think there's there must

[1:17:51] needs probably be a little more conversation on that in the in the

[1:17:54] impact fee credits. I mean, it is I'm I'm all for the impact fee credits. I

[1:17:58] think it's great uh if you could do that. I just want to make sure that the

[1:18:01] impact fee credits that are being offered um are not, you know, are to the

[1:18:07] town's benefit, not to the developers benefit. That make that makes sense, you

[1:18:13] know, for your need, right? Um so we we'll take a look at that and and figure

[1:18:19] out that one there. Um page here.

[1:18:27] So you have on N section N construction trailers of the three construction

[1:18:31] trailers whatever is the plan also to try to do uh construction fencing around

[1:18:37] the project while construction is happening. Is that something we can do

[1:18:42] with scrim or whatever?

[1:18:49] Yeah.

[1:18:53] Yeah. Yeah,

[1:18:58] perfect. It's just not an agreement, so I just wanted to make sure. And and then

[1:19:01] I mean it protects you, right? It protects the public and it protects

[1:19:04] everybody from getting sued. Um, and then I believe Katherine Ross, and

[1:19:12] we'll need to confirm this with Mike, but um, on number four of um, um, the

[1:19:20] utilities, I think that stub out for the connection for the water connection in

[1:19:25] the hydrant has been put in. We'll just need to to um confirm that, but I

[1:19:30] believe it has put in was put in with the construction of Katherine Ross. And

[1:19:34] the reason I'm saying that is there's a section here in the event the town has

[1:19:37] not commenced construction. If it's already in, we'll just strike that to

[1:19:41] make this agreement cleaner so that no one's kind of, you know, I think it is

[1:19:47] too. And uh it just makes things a little cleaner. No confusion later down

[1:19:51] the road. Somebody else is sitting up there looking at it.

[1:19:55] Um, other than that, gentlemen, um, ladies, um, the signage

[1:20:02] that you have on there, there's the one that's down by the tractor supply. Is

[1:20:06] that yours to maintain or will that be tractor supply? Because there is a there

[1:20:11] is a blank plate underneath it. >> That is tractor supply.

[1:20:14] » So that's theirs. >> That is that's theirs

[1:20:17] » in place as is. >> I I think that's the case. We have no

[1:20:19] act we don't own that sign. >> I can give some clarification. And there

[1:20:22] is actually a recorded easement for that sign in that location. So that is the

[1:20:26] responsibility of Tractor Supply to maintain.

[1:20:29] » Okay. So they they maintain it. It's theirs. Yes. Just happens to be sitting

[1:20:33] » happens to be on their property. >> Okay. And then Alex, the other thing I

[1:20:37] saw on there was the billboard. What's the deal on the Are you going to

[1:20:41] » We got rid of the billboard. >> It's gone.

[1:20:43] » It's gone. Yeah. It's gone. >> Is it? I haven't noticed.

[1:20:46] » Oh, it's gone. Yeah. >> All right.

[1:20:48] » We got rid of the billboard a while back.

[1:20:50] » Yeah. because we had to we had to get rid of that. That was a Well, that was

[1:20:53] terrible. That billboard was horrible. I mean, that billboard had to go.

[1:20:56] » Okay. All right. So, that >> they're so hard to get rid of, too. Let

[1:20:59] me tell you, that was a process, >> right?

[1:21:01] » Yeah, that was a real process to get rid of a billboard.

[1:21:03] » Yeah. No, it's great. Um, other than that, great project. I'm excited.

[1:21:07] » Thank you. Yeah, >> we're excited to to be here.

[1:21:11] » So, um, no other questions from anybody, follow-ups? No. Okay. All right. So,

[1:21:16] with that then, let's uh entertain a motion then.

[1:21:22] Yeah, there's something Taylor had >> I know. I'm going back to that to see

[1:21:26] what I know Taylor included. Um

[1:21:33] I think we

[1:21:40] made it made it easy for us. >> We have

[1:21:48] » That's fine. I think it's uh the record's already clear in the items that

[1:21:52] you all want to see back second reading. So we'll work with the uh development

[1:21:57] team to get that. If you just want to say as discussed or as presented we can.

[1:22:02] » Okay. Like the second one here where he has with conditions.

[1:22:05] » Yeah. With the conditions and items discussed. Yep. So, I move to approve

[1:22:10] ordinance number 2026-05 with conditions on first reading finding

[1:22:16] it compliant with the town's comprehensive plan and land development

[1:22:19] code and schedule the ordinance for second reading and public hearing on

[1:22:23] September 9th, 2026. >> Okay, second.

[1:22:27] » Second. >> All in favor?

[1:22:29] » I >> I Okay, good deal. Thank you, sir. We

[1:22:32] appreciate you guys. Okay. So, with that out of the way,

[1:22:37] we're on to uh our public forum tonight. You guys can Yeah, we'll let you guys

[1:22:42] go. Thanks. >> Don't Don't forget messaghetti.

[1:22:50] » Macaroni and meatballs. >> Macaroni.

[1:22:52] » Yeah, they're sort of us. >> Yeah, I've been with the

[1:22:56] » So, uh with that uh conclude, we'll open up to public forum and it's anything

[1:23:01] that is not discussed tonight or on the agenda. Does anyone have anything you

[1:23:04] want to talk about or hear about? No. Okay.

[1:23:12] A lot. Oh, yeah. Jeez, Ed. Oh, just in time.

[1:23:17] » Hey, there you go. You You owe me a buck.

[1:23:26] » Ed Kulicowski, 51 Vandermir Street. Is there an update on our new proposed cell

[1:23:31] tower? I'm sorry, I didn't sell cell cell tower

[1:23:36] so I can get cell service at my house. >> There there is not an update. I'm sorry.

[1:23:42] » Okay. >> Um I think we've been focused on the

[1:23:44] budget >> kind of

[1:23:46] » and and uh yes, that is trust me it's it's something Ed that I ask about once

[1:23:52] every other week when I see a lease. So that will be uh soon. So yeah. Anyone

[1:23:57] else? Anything? Oh yes. Absolutely. Donna,

[1:24:01] you haven't been here in a while either, Donna.

[1:24:06] » And just a couple quick things. Who maintains the medians in that front area

[1:24:10] around tractor supply? It is absolutely horrible. Um, also by that um I think

[1:24:18] what y'all are calling that boomerang area by Katherine Ross. There is a

[1:24:22] broken manhole cover there on one of the drainage things on the sidewalk and now

[1:24:27] the sign is either fallen over. It's kind of dangerous because it's like half

[1:24:31] on the sidewalk and half off of the sidewalk. Um it's been broken. I've been

[1:24:35] walking now for several months and it's been continually broken. And also who um

[1:24:41] just so I can call and and try to get it taken care of because I don't think it's

[1:24:46] here. who maintains the mowing along the sidewalk from Katherine Ross all the way

[1:24:52] down to where the power sports place is because it's super bad as

[1:24:57] » DOT. >> So I need to call DOT about that.

[1:25:00] » Once every six months whether or not >> or never.

[1:25:04] So okay >> and you're right all that along Highway

[1:25:07] 50 all the way down to the turnpike is >> it's terrible. It's terrible.

[1:25:11] » Um as far as the entrance right there on Star at the tractor I was asking at

[1:25:15] least that too. We got to look into that and see who's whose that is. But thanks.

[1:25:18] Anyone else? Wow, that was two questions. No one else. Okay. All right.

[1:25:23] So, we'll close the public hearing and bring it back to Elise.

[1:25:29] All right. I'll try to be quick. Um, since the last town commission meeting,

[1:25:34] East Vic Avenue was paved and asphalt millings were placed on East and West

[1:25:38] Hen, East Golie, East Hull Avenue, North Brock, North Cross, Winter Street, and

[1:25:43] South Arrington. So the only places that we still have remaining are places that

[1:25:50] we need to do additional work such as drainage improvements or things like

[1:25:55] that. Um or we're wait going to wait for the septic to sewer to go in and then

[1:26:00] we'll work on those areas. Everything else should be done. Um the artist

[1:26:05] opening on Thursday, August 13th for a new exhibit at the Arts and Heritage

[1:26:09] Center was well attended. I'd like to thank Mayor Taylor, Vice Mayor

[1:26:12] Satderfield, and Commissioner Keller for attending. The exhibit will be in place

[1:26:16] through October 30th and is definitely worth visiting. Um, on August 19th,

[1:26:22] which was last week, Mayor Taylor and I attended the ribbon cutting for the Baby

[1:26:25] Place, Advent Health Winter Garden. So, the Baby Place is now our closest labor

[1:26:30] and delivery facility. If you know anyone who's delivering, so um, that's

[1:26:34] pretty exciting for for our young >> shaking her head. know in this room.

[1:26:38] [laughter] >> We will have a farmers market this

[1:26:41] Thursday from 9 to 1. Um on September 1st, I'll be part of a district 1

[1:26:46] property tax town hall panel. So, if you still want to get educated on amendment

[1:26:51] three, there will be a town hall at West Orange High School cafeteria at 6:00

[1:26:56] p.m. Um, and we'll just be providing the tax collector will be there, state

[1:27:02] representative Spencer, Commissioner Nicole Wilson, the Winter Garden Town

[1:27:06] Manager, the Windmir town manager, and myself.

[1:27:10] Um, town offices will be closed on Monday, September 7th for Labor Day. And

[1:27:15] then just a reminder, I know Kathy's going to cover it as well. Um, our next

[1:27:20] commission meeting will be on Wednesday, September 9th. And that's because it's

[1:27:24] our tenant budget hearing that starts at a regular town commission will start at

[1:27:28] 7. And then we'll have a block party on Friday, September 18th from 5:30 to 8 in

[1:27:34] front of the Arts and Heritage Center. And Nature Fest is Saturday, September

[1:27:38] 26 from 9:00 to 1 at P. >> Thank you, Kathy.

[1:27:45] I have no report. Oh >> jeez. I thought you were going to echo

[1:27:49] what she just said. She was thinking you would. Uh it is a lot lot going on. It's

[1:27:54] getting cooler out. So yeah, it's almost sweater weather. Chief,

[1:28:00] » my report mirrors Cathy's report. >> Great.

[1:28:05] Abby,

[1:28:09] » no. Nothing. >> Budget's looking good. Crunching the

[1:28:14] numbers. >> Yep. It's prepped and ready to go.

[1:28:20] » Anything from our um building department?

[1:28:23] » Uh no, sir. No report. Just if you've been out by Briley Farms, you can see

[1:28:27] all the work going on out there is keeping us hopping. No report.

[1:28:32] » You'll have a lot of work this sounds like coming up here soon. Amy, Ashley,

[1:28:37] » I do have a report and hopefully I can get through this. I want to acknowledge

[1:28:42] the fact that we are as we started another school year. That means we have

[1:28:45] another round of teachers that have returned with us. As such, we do have

[1:28:50] quite an extensive list of celebrating anniversaries this year and I would like

[1:28:55] the opportunity to recognize them. So with 20 years of service this year we

[1:29:02] are recognizing Melissa Keading, Margaret Young, Joanne Broutley, Karen

[1:29:06] Kefir, and Amanda Coleman Commeister. At 14 years of service, we are

[1:29:13] celebrating at the school Andrea Wano, but also we are celebrating Mike Parker

[1:29:20] as our capital projects coordinator with his 14 years as well. at 13 years with

[1:29:25] the school, Michelle Murphy. 10 years each at the school, Serena Bell Miller

[1:29:31] and Natalie Wesling. We have eight years at the school, Lara

[1:29:37] Toning. Seven years at the school, Cheryl

[1:29:41] Sherber, and with PD Corporal Fischer. Make sure you check him out on Facebook.

[1:29:48] Quite funny. uh six-year anniversaries here all at

[1:29:53] the school would include Nicole Perr, Ariana and Del Lima, Wendy Perkins,

[1:29:58] Tiffany Williams, and Leah Barry. I have five years at the school, Kathleen Tate,

[1:30:04] Amanda Hilton, Brenda Campbell, and Nicole oh um Lori Harms. And then at PD

[1:30:11] celebrating her five years is officer Nicole Hall.

[1:30:16] We also have four years here at the school. Ashley Barry, Karen House,

[1:30:23] Danielle Spano, and Leslie Muartry, and Terresa Baron. Two years celebrating

[1:30:30] Sharon Russo and Gerardo Compunano, Amy Melon, and Elaine Taylor East. And

[1:30:39] finally staying here for their one-year anniversary at the school, we have Noel

[1:30:44] Don and Nathan Balish. And then P, our education coordinator, Stephanie

[1:30:51] Schmidt. So we sincerely appreciate all of our employees, especially those that

[1:30:56] are returning teachers and educators here at the school. Hopefully next year

[1:31:00] it's going to be an even longer list for us. And quickly I just want to let you

[1:31:06] know we have I have completed all of the initial interviews for the public works

[1:31:11] director. We are moving on to the second phase of those interviews and then we

[1:31:18] taking place this week and next week as well. So we shall keep you posted on

[1:31:22] that as we move along. >> Thanks Ashley Taylor. Anything other

[1:31:28] than what we discussed? >> Sure. Other than that, I uh we do have a

[1:31:32] couple of additional projects hopefully nearing the finish line here. We have

[1:31:35] the fourth street villages first phase, the commercial portion and for hopefully

[1:31:39] its final round of review before of its final engineering plans. And we also

[1:31:44] hope to soon begin review on 302 East Oakland, the conversion of the residence

[1:31:51] to the doctor's office that's going to be coming in for final engineering plan

[1:31:55] hopefully here shortly. and nothing other than I did get to experience the

[1:31:59] um the new paved roads and it was a very pleasant drive. So that's all I got.

[1:32:05] » Thanks. Did good job tonight, too, Taylor. Thank you. Uh Commissioner

[1:32:09] Keller, >> I have nothing.

[1:32:14] » I'm good. >> All right, we said enough. All right,

[1:32:16] let's go. >> All hearts, minds are satisfied. We are

[1:32:21] adjourned at 8:32.

[1:32:25] Did I get it right?

08-25-2026 Town Commission Regular Meeting

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