[0:09] You guys got to come down.

[0:15] » No, I know.

[0:32] 602 and uh public hearing no start.

[0:37] First we'll do the pledge of allegiance

[0:44] to the flag of the United States of

[0:46] America and to the republic for which it

[0:49] stands. One nation under God,

[0:53] indivisible, with liberty and justice

[0:55] for all.

[1:01] » First, we'll have uh citizens comments.

[1:04] Any citizen comments?

[1:08] Are we

[1:09] talking about what you just did on your

[1:11] bucket or

[1:13] » Talk about anything? Now's the time.

[1:17] Is is this a selective meeting or a town

[1:20] meeting?

[1:20] » This is a public hearing.

[1:25] » David Lamach school

[1:30] for the chip seal on it come out pretty

[1:33] nice.

[1:35] I just had a a couple of questions.

[1:39] First one is

[1:42] roads selected

[1:45] to be taken care of.

[1:47] When you when you're looking at your

[1:49] budget

[1:51] or how much

[1:54] you can do,

[1:57] who makes the determination on what

[1:59] needs to be done?

[2:01] The determination comes from

[2:05] I public works. what roads are more

[2:09] grave than others with this with the ch

[2:11] some some of the roads can't be chips

[2:13] some of them are just they need to be

[2:15] replaced so they they figure out what

[2:18] roads could you like they start with

[2:21] then they'll go to um brown or wherever

[2:26] » Well can I jump in here we also have the

[2:29] contract with Beta which did a scan of

[2:32] all 37.2 2 miles of town road and they

[2:36] gave us recommendations for maintenance

[2:39] for each road and a schedule and that's

[2:42] what public works is using to make their

[2:44] decisions. So it's not just we're

[2:46] randomly picking roads. It's we have

[2:48] data that was collected because data

[2:50] drove around with trucks and they

[2:52] scanned all the roads to get road

[2:53] conditions and then they gave

[2:55] recommendations on whether it was a chip

[2:57] seal, whether it was a full replacement,

[2:59] all that sort of stuff. There was a host

[3:01] of things that they gave us. Okay.

[3:04] So, if we remember back last year at the

[3:09] town meeting that

[3:12] got cops involved

[3:15] and

[3:17] over a lot of voicing over Williams

[3:20] throat over there off of Brown

[3:24] and Kentucky was supposed to be chip

[3:27] sealed last year,

[3:30] but apparently they went over and did a

[3:33] pave job

[3:35] on Williams.

[3:37] » So the reason why Shitucket wasn't done

[3:39] last year wasn't a change in priorities.

[3:42] It was due to weather. So they ran out

[3:44] of time due to weather on what they

[3:47] » Time to do Williams.

[3:51] They were assigned to Williams

[3:55] » And I don't when they were crack sealing

[3:59] and it got 90 degrees,

[4:02] you undercoated everybody's car.

[4:05] The stuff was running down the road.

[4:08] » Yeah, I had a few people calling about

[4:10] that. So, we uh we had the chip ceiling

[4:13] company here tonight. I think

[4:17] they're going to show up. They were

[4:18] supposed to be here. So,

[4:21] So my second question is

[4:25] when are you going to finish the reps of

[4:28] from school that horse?

[4:35] » I don't know if that was on the plan. Do

[4:37] you Ryan?

[4:38] » Really?

[4:39] It's on the plan. Um,

[4:42] Kentucky and

[4:47] not Valley.

[4:49] Ron, what's your road? Where is it?

[4:52] » James.

[4:53] » James Road.

[4:53] » He's on James Road.

[4:55] » James Road. So, they were doing

[4:57] Satucket, James Road, and I think

[5:00] » Where the chip seal.

[5:02] » Yeah.

[5:02] » But Shitucket from Wley School at a

[5:07] farest

[5:09] » The back end. You can't just chip seal

[5:11] that.

[5:13] » Is that Is that

[5:15] okay? I know what you're saying now.

[5:17] » You know where I mean?

[5:18] » Yeah. Don't to the dead end.

[5:20] » Yeah.

[5:21] » A dead end back there. Yeah.

[5:22] » Dirty ch

[5:25] » Um I mean I'll have to find out about

[5:27] that.

[5:29] » Have you driven it?

[5:30] » I driven. It's not great. I'm going to

[5:33] agree. Not good. So,

[5:37] » I'm just curious where it fits in.

[5:40] » Right. And I I'll I'll get to the bottom

[5:43] of that and ask him why. But

[5:48] » The other one he got done was that was

[5:49] just as bad.

[5:54] » Right.

[5:55] Quickly,

[5:56] » Right?

[6:01] I will make that a note and I'll talk

[6:06] to the chip steelers if they're here

[6:07] tonight about it and then if not then

[6:09] I'll talk to

[6:10] » That's complete rebuild.

[6:12] » Yeah.

[6:16] » Oh yeah.

[6:19] » A rebuild's a little tougher than just

[6:21] chips.

[6:22] » But so wasn't the other one off of

[6:24] Brown,

[6:25] » Right?

[6:25] » That was rebuilt off.

[6:26] » It wasn't rebuilt. It was just hard.

[6:28] » Yeah. Well, okay. It was just part over,

[6:33] but it was just as bad a shape as the

[6:36] rest is.

[6:38] » That's the thing.

[6:39] » Well, it's a lot better than it was.

[6:46] » We will figure that one out. We'll we'll

[6:48] try to figure that one out. And that's

[6:50] just like any other road in Ventown. We

[6:52] got to look at it, process, and what we

[6:55] can afford. Okay. At one one time, one

[6:58] of the

[7:00] past selectman

[7:02] I thought to him about it

[7:05] said, "Well, there's only one house down

[7:07] there."

[7:09] That was the wrong answer.

[7:11] » Did you hear me say that?

[7:12] » No.

[7:15] » No.

[7:16] Every road's a road here. Whether it's

[7:18] one house on the road, whether it's 30,

[7:20] » Right?

[7:21] » We I look at it the same. though and and

[7:24] you drive around Vent Town and some of

[7:26] these roads are not good at all. So, I

[7:29] mean it's tough to like we can say that

[7:32] and we can put Gallop on there and we

[7:34] can put Kenny on there and we can put

[7:36] you know a ton of them on there too.

[7:38] » Oh yeah.

[7:38] » So

[7:40] there's a lot of work involved if we had

[7:43] the money be great. I wish I could call

[7:46] and say, "Well, we're going to do this

[7:47] one this year. We'll do that one next

[7:49] year or two those two next year." But,

[7:53] you know,

[7:54] » Well, you can put in your strong

[7:55] reputation,

[7:56] » Right?

[8:04] Anybody else?

[8:11] » Hey, John.

[8:13] » Yeah. Um, not messing with the TV

[8:16] because it's still working. Everybody

[8:17] can see fine. But John here,

[8:19] » Uh, new business

[8:22] first part is the water study findings.

[8:24] John, you there?

[8:27] » John?

[8:28] » I am here. Can you hear me?

[8:32] » Can you guys hear me?

[8:36] » He shouldn't come through the TV. He

[8:37] should be coming here.

[8:50] Can you hear us?

[8:52] » I can. Yes. And I can see Brian and Sue.

[8:57] » Okay.

[8:59] Okay. You're on the laptop. Give us a

[9:01] second, John. We'll get you.

[9:02] » Okay. Yeah. Take your time.

[9:09] Is the plug coming out from the garbage

[9:11] can on the wall over there?

[9:13] » Oh, yeah. I can see.

[9:17] » Well,

[9:21] thanks, Tracy.

[9:28] [laughter]

[9:29] » All right.

[9:35] » Can you guys hear me now?

[9:37] » Perfect. Yes.

[9:40] Okay. Um, so for the record, I'm John

[9:43] Gusowski. I'm the town's uh consulting

[9:45] planning director. Um, I've been uh

[9:49] project managing the community water

[9:52] system study. Um, just have a brief

[9:56] statement about the the current status.

[9:59] Um, the town of Volunttown community

[10:02] water system study was initiated to

[10:04] evaluate whether a public water system

[10:07] could address recurring well reliability

[10:10] concerns, support future development,

[10:12] and enhance long-term water availability

[10:15] in two key areas of town. The study was

[10:18] prompted uh in part by drought

[10:21] conditions several over the last several

[10:23] years and concerns regarding uh private

[10:26] well capacity and particularly within

[10:28] the village center area and the beach

[10:30] pond area. Um we pursued and received a

[10:35] community infrastructure fund grant from

[10:37] the state of Connecticut department of

[10:38] economic and community development. This

[10:40] was a $250,000

[10:43] um planning and engineering study that

[10:45] was fully funded by the state. no

[10:47] municipal finances were required or

[10:50] involved. Um, as part of this effort,

[10:53] the town conducted hydrogeeologic

[10:55] investigations. Uh, we installed and

[10:58] monitor observation wells and we

[10:59] performed water quality testing at

[11:01] several potential water source

[11:03] locations. Um, in the village center,

[11:06] which study was is basically getting

[11:08] wrapped up now. Um, the observation

[11:10] wells showed uh promising groundwater

[11:12] availability in terms of pure flow.

[11:15] However, there was a need for treatment

[11:17] for um detected levels of manganesees

[11:19] and POS. Um we are still undergoing

[11:22] hydro uh geological investigations at

[11:24] Beach Pond uh to determine if a viable

[11:27] water source exists. We received

[11:30] preliminary findings again on the

[11:32] village center um system. Um, while a a

[11:36] water system may be technically feasible

[11:39] in the village center, meaning that we

[11:41] have enough water for a community water

[11:42] system, the capital costs that would be

[11:45] associated with developing um a

[11:48] permanent uh public water system uh

[11:51] supply system in the village area

[11:53] appears to be prohibitively expensive

[11:55] for the town to take on. Um and and you

[11:59] know so as a result of this this expense

[12:03] um the pursuing a public water system in

[12:06] the village center does not appear to be

[12:08] a practical investment for the town

[12:10] unless significant and we mean

[12:12] significant outside funding was

[12:14] available for implementation. Um so at

[12:17] this time town leadership has decided

[12:18] not to pursue any additional funding for

[12:21] the village center component. Um we will

[12:24] be having uh we we again as I said we

[12:26] are not done with the beach pond study.

[12:28] When that study is wrapped up we will

[12:31] provide uh additional public information

[12:32] at that time when that component of the

[12:35] study um comp concludes. I'd also just

[12:38] like to note um that we have we have

[12:40] been maintaining a uh a page on our

[12:44] community website the town website uh

[12:46] providing updates on the water system

[12:48] study. So people can people can check in

[12:50] on that. But again the the bottom line

[12:52] is the first phase of this study

[12:55] focusing on village center revealed

[12:58] sufficient water but the capital costs

[13:00] for implementation were were deemed too

[13:02] high and we will not be pursuing further

[13:05] um uh you know studies or or engineering

[13:08] along this this line in the village. So

[13:11] happy to answer any questions that

[13:12] people may have.

[13:15] » John, how much was the significant

[13:17] capital cost for us to go further with

[13:19] this study? Um, yeah, it was it was in

[13:22] the range of uh 15 to $18 million

[13:26] » To basically stand up the the system.

[13:30] » Thank you.

[13:36] » A lot of that I mean a lot of that you

[13:38] know infrastructure is expensive but a

[13:40] lot of that had to deal with uh you know

[13:42] building out water treatment capacity

[13:44] and and storage and and that sort of

[13:46] thing.

[13:48] Who would maintain something like that?

[13:51] I think there would be a reoccurring

[13:52] flaw.

[13:53] » It would be maintained most likely

[13:56] again if we were to consider something

[13:58] like that. And I want to reiterate at

[13:59] this time we are not. Um it would be

[14:02] maintained by the Connecticut Water

[14:04] Company who is designated by the

[14:07] Department of Public Health to be the

[14:08] exclusive service provider for public

[14:10] water systems in this municipality.

[14:13] So we we could essentially build it and

[14:16] then turn it over to Connecticut water

[14:17] to maintain.

[14:21] So similar there is there is a small

[14:22] water system out near Beach Pond um

[14:25] Tangle Wood a couple of roads over there

[14:27] that is a small community system

[14:28] maintained by Connecticut Water

[14:33] » And those residents receive a bill from

[14:35] Connecticut Water. Correct.

[14:36] » Precisely as as they would for any other

[14:38] utility. So that's not a reoccurring

[14:42] budget line item

[14:43] » On the town. No, but it would then be

[14:45] anyone connected to it would get a war a

[14:47] monthly water.

[14:50] » Pretty big [clears throat] amount of

[14:51] money to put out,

[14:53] » Which is why we have chosen at this time

[14:55] to not

[14:57] » You wouldn't get any return on it.

[14:59] » It's well a public water system is not

[15:01] intended to be a money-making operation.

[15:03] It's a utility,

[15:06] » Right? It's

[15:08] the reason why we even looked at this

[15:10] originally was because of the

[15:12] possibility of future economic

[15:15] development and growth in the town

[15:16] center. Um some of the mandates from the

[15:19] state around um changing zoning so that

[15:23] um we could change from single family

[15:25] dwellings to multif family dwellings in

[15:27] town center. Um, but with that sort of

[15:30] cost,

[15:31] that's a oh no, because right now it's

[15:34] cost the town nothing to do the study.

[15:36] » Right. Right. Right. Right.

[15:38] » So, and we've gotten an answer out of

[15:39] the study on the village center. We'll

[15:42] get an answer on Beach Pond. So, we'll

[15:45] talk about that when that happens. But

[15:48] » That would have to be a real good will,

[15:55] right?

[15:57] Exactly. What area of the beach are you

[16:01] talking about?

[16:03] » Um John,

[16:05] » Yeah, it's it's basically basically the

[16:08] [clears throat] Bennett Road, Bennett

[16:09] Circle area,

[16:10] » The the the properties. Um, and I mean

[16:12] we I think we may expand uh expand just

[16:16] the the um cost estimates to the

[16:20] northshore of Beach Pond also, but the

[16:23] initial study was intended to be

[16:25] basically the the the Bennett Road,

[16:27] Bennett Circle area, you know, the areas

[16:29] just immediately south of the pond

[16:31] itself,

[16:33] the high, you know, the area of highest

[16:34] residential density.

[16:36] » And it's not an area where you can bring

[16:38] in multif family homes. I mean,

[16:39] everything's stacked in there. Well, in

[16:41] in the Beach Pond area, the idea there

[16:44] is recognizing that the the properties

[16:46] are developed at at quite an a a a high

[16:50] density. Um those are seasonal cottages

[16:54] that have gradually and continue to be

[16:56] converted from seasonal, you know,

[16:58] one-bedroom, two-bedroom cottages to

[17:01] three, four, fivebedroom year-round

[17:03] houses

[17:04] um that that have a significantly higher

[17:07] water demand and more importantly

[17:09] require by public health code

[17:11] significant separation distances between

[17:13] water systems and septic systems. So

[17:17] that sign that that that that uh public

[17:19] health code significantly um hinders

[17:23] people's ability to essentially build

[17:25] out their property and invest in their

[17:27] property uh making improvements and

[17:29] frankly making their properties more

[17:31] valuable in a way that is you know good

[17:33] for the town's grand list. Um and so

[17:36] because of public health limitations,

[17:39] you know, sometimes those building

[17:40] expansions are h h h h h h h h h h h h h

[17:42] h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h

[17:42] h h h h h h h hindered. And so the idea

[17:43] is if we can bring in public water, we

[17:46] can reduce the separation distance

[17:48] burden and and allow people to develop

[17:50] at a a more robust level

[17:56] properties that you could do that with.

[17:58] » I'm sorry.

[17:59] » Do you have a count number of properties

[18:02] that could possibly do that? We didn't

[18:04] do a property bypropy analysis. We just

[18:07] basically drew a circle around the

[18:09] highest density of residential

[18:12] properties and said these would be the

[18:13] ones that would be included in a public

[18:15] water system study. Again, this is just

[18:18] a planning exercise.

[18:22] » So that's two separate systems,

[18:25] » A system and a pond system.

[18:27] » Correct. And so we we've completed the

[18:29] the research on the village system. the

[18:31] beach pond system is is you know another

[18:33] six weeks behind

[18:45] » Any additional questions

[18:48] I ask question did the town ever look at

[18:51] um

[18:53] the opposite situation where you

[18:56] provided a mutual septic tank instead

[19:00] instead of dealing with the well issue

[19:03] because um

[19:06] that also has a separate things

[19:09] » Going on.

[19:11] » Sure. So we did we did at the initial

[19:14] planning stages uh consider that I mean

[19:18] so you know if you're looking to do a

[19:20] some sort of public infrastructure

[19:22] system either a public water system or a

[19:24] public sewer system either of those

[19:27] would help alleviate the uh development

[19:30] constraints. However in very broad

[19:33] strokes a sewer system is an order of

[19:36] magnitude more expensive than a public

[19:38] water system. Um because you not only

[19:41] have to do all the pipes that you would

[19:43] for a water system, you also have to

[19:44] build a water treatment facility um a

[19:47] sewer plant and and so you know whereas

[19:50] in in rough numbers you know if if uh a

[19:53] water system in the village is going to

[19:54] cost us $15 million, a sewer plant would

[19:58] cost us $75 million. Like and so we you

[20:01] know knowing knowing those those just

[20:03] how expensive

[20:05] » Sewer treatment is versus water.

[20:07] » Yeah. versus a a larger septic system

[20:12] which would be pumped out which the

[20:14] homeowners could pay a fee to have have

[20:18] maintained and pumped out every year.

[20:20] Not

[20:21] » Sure. And so a community

[20:23] » Not a whole full-blown sewer system,

[20:25] » Right? There's there Yes, we could we

[20:28] could look at I mean that is something

[20:29] that could be looked at a community

[20:32] waste comm basically a community septic

[20:34] system like a um that would be certainly

[20:38] cheaper than a full-blown sewer system

[20:40] but it's its size constraints would be

[20:45] quite low compared to I mean even the

[20:48] number of houses there right now you you

[20:50] wouldn't be able to get that number of

[20:53] houses on a you know a traditional

[20:56] community system, even if you had, you

[20:58] know, a bunch of acres for a, you know,

[21:01] a perfectly designed septic leech field.

[21:04] Not that you've got the the space, you

[21:08] know, I don't know where down there you

[21:09] would be able to size a leech field that

[21:12] big. Um, but yeah, I mean, that's that's

[21:15] a consideration. Not, you know, falling

[21:18] short of a full sewer plant. Yes. Um,

[21:22] but we we just didn't see that as

[21:24] feasible for the the type of study we

[21:27] wanted to do with this money at this

[21:28] time. That could could be something we

[21:29] look at in the future. And then the only

[21:31] other question is a zoning question

[21:33] where a lot of towns if someone owns a

[21:37] small lot which can't be

[21:40] um built on because it's too small or

[21:43] they don't have the room for another

[21:44] well or another septic system but they

[21:47] own an adjacent adjacent lot and want to

[21:51] upgrade their property. There's some

[21:53] towns that require that the homeowner

[21:56] combined the lots to make the lot more

[21:59] conforming.

[22:02] » Is that a question or a statement?

[22:03] » No, that's one way of alleviating um too

[22:07] much buildup of the pond because you

[22:10] still people building up and adding

[22:12] bathrooms and adding all this stuff.

[22:16] » [clears throat]

[22:16] » You still have se you're still close to

[22:18] the pond and so you still have leech

[22:21] leeching water that goes down to the

[22:23] pond because everything just about on

[22:26] that pond is uphill from the pond. So if

[22:30] you're building bigger houses with

[22:32] bigger bathrooms, going from cottages to

[22:36] full-blown houses that are twostory or

[22:39] threetory,

[22:41] five, you know, five bedrooms and four

[22:43] bathrooms or whatever it is, you're

[22:46] adding beach water into the pond, which

[22:49] is a big concern because

[22:52] um this is

[22:54] the quality of the water. Pretty sure

[22:56] everything down there pretty much is

[22:58] engineered septic now if you're building

[22:59] the doors or something.

[23:01] » There's a lot of smaller cottages that

[23:03] are not.

[23:04] » Yeah, but you're not going from a

[23:05] onebedroom to a fivebedroom without any

[23:08] septic. I don't

[23:09] » No, you're not. But but some people we

[23:13] did it. We went up, but we still

[23:15] maintained it was a threebedroom.

[23:18] We maintain the three bedroomedroom, but

[23:20] there are some places that are smaller,

[23:23] a smaller lot and

[23:28] some with old septic systems. I don't

[23:30] know if you've ever seen soap suds that

[23:32] run along the pond.

[23:35] » Yeah.

[23:37] Every weekend.

[23:40] Just it's just what do you want? Do you

[23:42] want more development? Do you want the

[23:45] houses to be worth more? just want

[23:47] people to be able to maintain their

[23:49] houses or do you want the pond to have

[23:52] maintain its quality of water

[23:56] um in the long term because of um tax

[24:00] dollars down there and tourism and all

[24:04] the fun people have down there in the

[24:06] summer fun

[24:08] or is it just benefiting a few people

[24:11] for all this money? We want all of the

[24:14] above for Nevada.

[24:18] » Great.

[24:21] » All right. So, John, since I got you on

[24:24] uh we got the proposed proposed

[24:26] extinguishment of the second Oh, there

[24:29] was one more question.

[24:30] » Yeah. I I want this just one thing about

[24:32] the water the water system. I know it's

[24:33] all preliminary and I know the engineers

[24:35] and all probably looked at this. I

[24:37] looked at a lot of the paperwork, a lot

[24:38] of the first study that was done, what

[24:40] was available in the least. One thing I

[24:42] didn't see in there take into account

[24:43] and I know the city chiefs the study is

[24:46] uh up in Massachusetts a lot of towns

[24:49] went through the same problem uh over

[24:52] the decades and they put city water in

[24:54] to solve a lot of the problems. In 20

[24:57] years they have more problems because

[24:59] you have to take into account when you

[25:01] pump water out to different locations

[25:03] you have to raise the water table six

[25:05] feet in a town and all the septics fail

[25:08] because

[25:10] you're pumping water to all these

[25:11] locations. So the hydra all hydrarology

[25:14] and everything else has to take into

[25:15] account theoretically all that water

[25:18] being put to a different location in

[25:19] this. understand we ended up paying $50

[25:22] million for the septic system for the uh

[25:25] sewer. Lucky though you're next to a

[25:27] large city. So a large city took the

[25:30] treatment. So we don't have a large city

[25:33] nearby to pipe it to. So that's just

[25:36] something I just didn't see in in the

[25:38] study. I just chiming in from what what

[25:40] I've seen is that that hit me in the

[25:42] pocket quite hard when that when that

[25:45] happened in North Dakota. So got very

[25:48] very expensive to to connect because we

[25:51] have a bond that would be just pointing

[25:53] that out.

[25:55] » Thank you.

[25:58] » John, you still there?

[26:01] » I am.

[26:01] » Okay. Uh a proposed extinguishment of

[26:04] the town's right away to Old Econ Road.

[26:12] Um what where did we come up with that?

[26:17] Um that was a request uh made by um a

[26:22] Butters uh on Old Econ Road folks that

[26:25] basically have an old road rightway

[26:27] still under the control and ownership of

[26:29] the municipality

[26:31] um that was sort of handed over to the

[26:32] town when the state rebuilt 49 and

[26:35] rerouted it. there's a little eyebrow of

[26:38] a road that basically runs through a

[26:41] couple of people's backyards. and they

[26:43] made the inquiry and request um that

[26:45] since the town clearly does not use nor

[26:48] need this that it be formally

[26:51] extinguished and the the legal term is

[26:53] discontinued

[26:55] um so that the town can divest itself of

[26:57] that property um which it does not use

[27:00] nor need nor need the liability on um

[27:03] and basically hand it off to the uh

[27:06] abuing property owners so that they can

[27:08] own it in fee simple. Um, this was the

[27:11] request made. Um, the board of selectmen

[27:13] considered this and referred it to the

[27:15] planning and zoning commission for

[27:18] what's referred to as an 824 referral.

[27:21] Um, referencing Connecticut General

[27:23] Statute section 8-24.

[27:25] Um, the planning and zoning commission

[27:26] determined that this um extinguishment

[27:29] of the road uh formally through

[27:31] discontinuation was appropriate and was

[27:34] in keeping with the goals of the plan of

[27:36] conservation and development. um they

[27:38] encourage the selectman to move forward

[27:40] on it. And um in order to do so uh if

[27:44] the selectman wish to continue, the

[27:46] selectmen need to um schedule a town

[27:50] meeting to formally

[27:52] um vote to discontinue the road. Uh and

[27:56] there are some you know legal

[27:58] notifications in the newspaper, legal

[28:00] notifications to the abutters as well as

[28:02] signage posted to properly notify the

[28:05] municipality of its intent. Um but that

[28:09] this would be basically a formal action

[28:11] requiring a majority town meeting vote

[28:14] uh essentially to extinguish and say the

[28:17] town no longer has interest legal

[28:19] interest in uh this right of way.

[28:36] All right. So, how's um September 22nd

[28:40] for a town meeting for this?

[28:45] » John, does that give us enough time at

[28:47] 60 days from tonight?

[28:48] » Yeah. Yeah. you basically need um to

[28:50] notify a Butters uh 30 days prior um and

[28:55] post assigned 30 days prior and then you

[28:58] know you need to because it's a town

[28:59] meeting you need to legally notice it in

[29:01] the paper um twice ahead of time at

[29:04] least 15 days. So yes, two months out

[29:06] gives you plenty of time.

[29:11] I make a motion that we set a the town

[29:14] meeting for the uh discontinuence of Old

[29:17] Econ Road under an 824 referral to

[29:21] September 22nd, 2026.

[29:24] » All in favor?

[29:26] » I

[29:29] have a 22nd town meeting.

[29:31] » Yep.

[29:33] At 7 p.m.

[29:39] here

[29:42] at town hall.

[29:52] Thanks, John.

[29:54] » Okay, thanks folks.

[29:57] Okay,

[29:57] » Next the chip ceiling guys are supposed

[29:59] to be here. Are they here?

[30:01] » They did not show up, so we can't talk

[30:04] to them, which is great.

[30:10] Uh, let's do tax movement.

[30:14] We talked about the chips dealing with

[30:15] that. I'm I I'll talk with the guys.

[30:18] I'll talk why they're not here tonight.

[30:21] So, that's not but but the company was

[30:25] supposed to be here tonight. The

[30:26] representatives of the company and

[30:31] maybe the weather. There's

[30:32] » A miscommunication on the time I just

[30:34] dropped on. And they think the meeting

[30:37] is at 7,

[30:39] but they should be on their way.

[30:43] They didn't know the meeting was 6. They

[30:45] thought it was seven. Okay, hold on.

[30:52] » Let's reschedu with them.

[30:54] » Oh, the 22nd with them, too.

[30:57] You want to do that?

[30:58] » Add them to September 22nd.

[31:00] » Okay. Okay.

[31:02] » Was this a town meeting or a selectman's

[31:04] meeting?

[31:05] » Public hearing.

[31:06] » Public hearing.

[31:07] » What does it say on the new board up

[31:10] there?

[31:10] » Says on the website.

[31:12] » What does No. What does it say? Town

[31:13] meeting.

[31:14] » Public hearing.

[31:16] » It says town meeting on the board. That

[31:17] That is a mistake that we fully take

[31:21] responsibility for and acknowledge. But

[31:23] this is a public hearing. The newspaper

[31:25] and the town website stated it was just

[31:27] the board that was the mistake.

[31:30] And that's the one that doesn't have a

[31:32] legal requirements. Not trying to get

[31:34] out of anything, but that's then don't

[31:36] try and get out of it. No, we're not

[31:38] trying to get out of it. We We take the

[31:40] hit.

[31:42] » Doors are always open. You want to come

[31:44] in, talk, whatever.

[31:45] » Well, no. I I read it.

[31:46] » Yep. I'm going to stay.

[31:49] » Oh, okay. That's fair.

[31:53] » All right. Uh, let's do the Where do we

[31:56] have three more?

[31:58] Four.

[31:59] Yeah.

[32:06] First one

[32:08] is for Robert Engel Jr. for 3145

[32:18] 11:45.

[32:21] Second one is for Toyota lease trust for

[32:25] 19730.

[32:29] Third one is for

[32:32] Sean Douly founding road volunt 40 52

[32:38] $4052

[32:41] and the last one Donna stole of condon

[32:44] road and that one is $4488.

[32:49] I make a motion to issue tax refunds as

[32:52] recommended by the tax collector.

[32:55] » Second.

[32:55] » All in favor? Hi,

[33:15] Make them.

Public Hearing 7/21

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