[0:00] Actually, >> It'd be windy up there.

[0:03] » Actually, that's where it was nice. Going by Tofino and stuff, yeah, it was

[0:08] nice there. >> This guy used to go do stuff with and

[0:12] me and Fulton and that. He uh

[0:15] He was just one of those guys. Just I mean, he says, "Well, I'm going to

[0:19] build a boat and I'm going to sail it."

[0:23] I can't remember it was to Hawaii or from up the Arctic down to Seattle. I

[0:30] can't remember which one cuz he started the boat there. I said, "If have you

[0:33] done much sailing?" He says, "Well, I built one. I took it from uh

[0:36] He went down to Panama.

[0:40] And he like he's that type of guy. He just decides I'm going to build one and

[0:44] » And he's not married. He makes lots of money. He goose hunts for a living.

[0:48] Let's just say that. >> Wow.

[0:50] » That's what he does for a living, ducks and geese. So,

[0:53] » Okay, you're ready to go. >> Yeah, 7:00. So, we'll call the meeting

[0:56] to order. Um everybody should have a copy of the agenda. Any additions or

[1:01] deletions? >> I'd just like to talk maybe about the

[1:04] businesses downtown for a quick second. Some words?

[1:07] » Sure. In in your report or would you like it actually on the agenda?

[1:10] » I'll I'll I'll I can do it in my report. That's

[1:12] » Yeah, sounds good. Uh

[1:15] Okay, somebody wish to move the agenda as presented?

[1:17] » Dwayne. >> He's back.

[1:19] » Any questions on Dwayne's motion? Hearing none, I'll call the question.

[1:24] Those in favor? Opposed? I see none. This is carried

[1:28] unanimously. Okay, minutes of the July 13th meeting.

[1:33] Any >> Judy moves them.

[1:36] » Any discussion on Judy's motion? Hearing none, I'll call the question.

[1:41] Those in favor? >> [snorts]

[1:43] » Opposed? I see none. This is carried. So, we have a delegation. Aaron,

[1:48] » Okay. >> the floor is yours.

[1:55] » Thanks. I assume that everybody read my little

[2:00] AI proposal that I

[2:05] I'm not that clever with that wording. Um, [clears throat] is there any

[2:09] questions or do you want me just to touch on

[2:12] » Just go for whatever you wish. >> Explain what you want to do there.

[2:15] » So, yeah, so the So, our idea behind it was that

[2:19] uh the money that we're looking for would be in cooperation with ourselves

[2:23] and and we do plan on approaching other groups in town as

[2:26] well. Um, but it it is for the four holes that

[2:29] are our shared boundaries with the town. So, being walking path and the cemetery.

[2:35] Um, we've had the some of the trees have been blown over. We've had one tree blow

[2:39] over on the number line rail number four tee box. That would have been during the

[2:42] day it would have probably killed somebody during the season two years

[2:44] ago. Um, and we pick up a lot of tree

[2:47] branches and stuff and it there's no rhyme or reason to I mean, that those

[2:51] trees are between the cart path and between the walking path. They could

[2:53] fall on the walking path just as easily as they could on the cart path.

[2:56] Um, it's it's [clears throat] they're definitely hazards down at hole seven.

[2:59] Those are definitely our priorities. They need to go.

[3:02] Um, as I'm sure everybody knows, we have elm

[3:04] trees planted on the inside of that boundary and that are kind of stopped

[3:08] growing because the poplar trees are are shading and blocking them in, which they

[3:11] will continue to to grow more if we can get rid of those poplar trees. So, we

[3:15] wouldn't have to have a tree replacement for hole seven.

[3:18] Um, we would probably have some tree

[3:21] replacements down four and five. Um, six is virtually gone, but there isn't too

[3:25] much there in a sense. Um, that we probably do as well. And

[3:28] those are probably when we would approach some of the service groups in

[3:31] town about um tree, you know, replanting and stuff

[3:35] like that, beautification of course with the town and stuff like that. But, we're

[3:37] not there yet. Right now, our our biggest concern is

[3:41] the safety aspect of those trees blowing over onto I don't want to say onto the

[3:46] walking paths and stuff like that. Obviously, you guys all know that the

[3:49] town owns the golf course, but we do run independently. So, we're not we're not

[3:53] saying that it needs to be you know you guys funding it yourselves.

[3:57] We would be kicking in as well. Our near New Year starts on November 1st. So we

[4:01] would be putting in the 15,000 match your 15 if you guys go

[4:06] with the proposal and then in November we would start cutting all those trees

[4:09] down on the whole seven and have a clean up before the start of next season.

[4:13] Whole six, there's about 19 trees, nine of them have to come down right away as

[4:17] well. That would That would be more of a fall 2027 job.

[4:22] Four and five, the trees aren't as bad but they are dying as well. So when we

[4:26] have KWD come and cut some of these trees down there was they're dead in the

[4:30] They're just great big holes in the middle of there. There's They're just

[4:33] like the end of the season at this point.

[4:36] Um Yeah, that's kind of the long and short

[4:39] of what we're thinking. We're trying to keep it nice but it's right now it is

[4:42] mostly on the safety aspect. Especially whole seven, that is

[4:46] We cut down as many as we can a year. We've talked to the board about having

[4:51] increasing our tree budget so we can cover We only have a 10,000 tree budget

[4:55] and I totally appreciate that the town doesn't have unlimited amount of money

[4:58] that they have a tree budget as well. But we thought if we got started at it

[5:01] now then you know for the future budgets and stuff that we can have some new

[5:05] ones.

[5:08] » Mitch, um you're going to approach service clubs you said um

[5:12] to help with this 145 or >> Yeah, so like so the So the 145 is is

[5:17] just for the trees that are on the boundaries. We only have another 150 or

[5:21] 200,000 inside the course. They're not as They're not as dying off as rapidly

[5:26] and they're not as in much way as They're If they fell over in a flood it

[5:29] wouldn't make any difference. You don't golf in a flood anyway. So we're not as

[5:32] concerned about them. We're prioritizing safety ones. But yes, we would We're

[5:35] just trying to get somebody to take the first leap of faith and say okay when we

[5:38] can go to the next group and say the town's on board helping us, can you guys

[5:42] help as well? And it just kind of goes from there.

[5:43] » Are you going to be asking for money for the inside batch too? Do you think

[5:47] you're coming to the town for that as well?

[5:48] » I I Not at this time, no. I think that was one of the ones that once you get

[5:52] these the priority ones cleaned up that we will start on our own and then

[5:56] perhaps we may We've had donations from members as well. We had a $10,000

[6:00] donation last year with five more trees being put those all in back. So, it'd be

[6:03] that sort of thing as well. We might do an adopt-a-tree program where we'll go

[6:06] cut down a tree if somebody gives us, you know, $3,000 we can cut down a tree

[6:10] and plant a tree. That kind of thing. So, that's how we would approach the

[6:12] inside course. Um we just I you know, like we just

[6:15] don't have the money to get the priority trees out quick enough.

[6:20] » Thank you. >> Any other questions?

[6:23] » Yeah. Darren, what about uh

[6:26] kind of offset the cost of the the tree people coming in? Would any of your

[6:31] staff be able to assist them to kind of knock that

[6:34] cost down? I realize that they are seasonal, but keeping a couple of

[6:37] seasonals on, you know, Duke or somebody else? Is

[6:41] there >> Uh so, he So, Duke does stay on. We In

[6:44] the past we have cleaned up a lot of the trees. Uh KWD is only charging us $300

[6:50] to clean up at that point in time, too, right?

[6:53] » Mhm. >> So, it's they're not It's not as as as

[6:55] much money. It's not like it's half the the cost isn't that.

[6:59] Um we would We're cuz we're not going to have quite

[7:01] enough >> [snorts]

[7:03] » It depends on how the how the budget all works or something like that. But, that

[7:05] is definitely an option that we we have cleaned up a lot of her in the past.

[7:08] They have to do the stump grinding for us.

[7:10] » Oh, yeah. Yeah, and stuff like that. Yeah.

[7:12] » We have What we've done in the past is they cut up the trees and they left the

[7:15] logs there and then Duke has guys around town that are looking for firewood. And

[7:18] so, he just phones those guys and they come and load them all. So, we we've

[7:20] we've [clears throat] We're also have that in our back pocket to do as well.

[7:23] » Okay. >> Okay.

[7:26] » Okay, cuz Steve, I know the golf course has taken a lot of trees down,

[7:29] especially around seven. So, you've [clears throat] been working on it, I

[7:32] know, for quite a while and you do put money

[7:34] in every year to do that. And I know last year when we were playing uh

[7:39] we played hole seven when we came around,

[7:43] a tree had come down, so it had just missed

[7:46] So, you just never know when that is branches or or a whole tree is coming

[7:50] down, so >> It doesn't have to be weather related to

[7:53] be proactive. >> If it hasn't dropped, it can just fall,

[7:55] right? >> Yeah.

[7:57] » The wind starts to blow and you'll see that coming and all driven down that

[7:59] street. Tree branches scattered all over.

[8:01] » Yeah. Yeah, that was a huge limb that came

[8:03] down that night. >> One thing worth mentioning is council

[8:06] aware that we've been doing the same thing off roads long.

[8:09] » Yeah. >> Uh

[8:10] 534 as well. Uh we just planted that whole new bunch

[8:14] in there. And as far as the street the stump grinding, something that I added

[8:19] to the report after we had public works look at it was they would like to be

[8:23] involved in that cuz they got a pretty good method where the shoots don't come

[8:26] up as bad, so it'll save the asphalt from Should council move forward with

[8:31] it. Uh Stu would like to have input with the golf course to make sure

[8:34] » Yeah. >> I think we

[8:36] Yeah, the relationship with those two good service is a lot, so so the motion

[8:39] that I have uh

[8:41] that I hope would forward for it includes some of the to allow good

[8:45] coordination of public works with >> Yeah, I think that's the biggest one and

[8:50] that Kim and I talked about a little bit

[8:52] earlier, too, is that uh Cal Retherford had a scenario what um

[8:58] he did for his partners where you cut the bark around the tree 18 in in height

[9:04] off and then you so that you do it now, so then when it doesn't in the fall it

[9:09] doesn't shoot send it's uh >> the

[9:11] » the sap sap down in so then you get less shoots and he really believed in that

[9:17] now that too, so I'm not sure he was the arborist, but uh

[9:22] um I I know that my son-in-law did it and

[9:25] he had the trees that he did that on he had half the shoots sending back up

[9:31] as what the other ones did, so I I think it has merit, so I mean again,

[9:35] you know, if you can pick up on what Stu said, you know, of working with Duke and

[9:40] and saying, you know, can we cut it down and make it so that we don't have so

[9:44] much damage to either cart path or the or the walking path with the shoots off

[9:50] those darn poplars, it'd be a huge asset, that's for sure. So.

[9:55] Well, if there's no other questions, um it's farther on our agenda. If you want,

[10:00] you're welcome to stay and listen and >> minutes left, you can stick around.

[10:05] » [laughter] >> I think I don't know how you go through

[10:06] the agenda in 8 minutes, it might be there.

[10:10] » You you can stay till it comes up or you can go when this

[10:14] Oh, I'm sorry, Chris. >> One question. So, where do you get your

[10:16] trees from, John? >> Um

[10:18] » You get some like Eagle Lake or >> Yes, well, the the ones that we bought

[10:21] last year that that we got the donation from Wayne, I believe came from Eagle

[10:25] Lake. No, we I think it was I think it's Joy on the golf course. I

[10:30] think her I don't want to say nephew or something

[10:33] works up there, so he's he's been they've been talking about Corki, and he

[10:37] gave us a bit of a break on some trees, and and they haven't do good. They've

[10:40] kind of bought it, so he he he's doing that.

[10:43] We we did talk to to Corki as well about cut trees. They were more money than

[10:46] KWD. Um

[10:48] and and just throwing out there, we've tried, you know, we don't have really

[10:52] have the the connections you guys have at Fortress. They really don't help at

[10:55] all. They wouldn't even open a gate to talk to us. Like I

[10:57] I feel like they when they come and spend a lot of money to trim those trees

[11:00] back, like why wouldn't they just want somebody to cut the trees down? But

[11:03] we don't have anybody connected enough to them to get that to make that happen.

[11:07] If you guys do, that's great, but we don't, so.

[11:11] » Yeah, no, I I don't think they've ever been very kind on, you know, butchering

[11:14] the trees and then, you know, >> The ones down there

[11:17] by the school are just terrible. >> it's it's terrible. I mean, there's but

[11:20] anyway, that's what they believe they have to do, and and

[11:24] they do it. And again, like he said, you know, instead of talking when we're

[11:28] doing something else to them, they they don't they they have their

[11:33] philosophy and and we don't have any friends in their

[11:37] group.

[11:40] » We we do have a county counselor on our board this year and so he's going to

[11:43] once, you know, we talked to you guys and we also going to vote close to the

[11:46] county to vote their parks and recreation and see if he gets money at

[11:49] that as well. That's where kind of we're at.

[11:52] » Okay. Thank you very much and like I said,

[11:55] you're welcome to stay or >> You can't sit that long at one time but

[11:58] I can't sit. >> Well, you can stand. [laughter]

[12:01] All right. >> I love it when people pace during a

[12:03] meeting. >> [laughter]

[12:05] » Yeah, that would be striking at all. >> See you later.

[12:07] » Thanks, guys. >> Thank you.

[12:08] » Hope you feel better, buddy. >> Yeah.

[12:11] » Okay. Moving on to

[12:15] 511 or 51, the National Police Federation call to action.

[12:20] » So, I first included just the the email and

[12:24] the and the call to action but uh part of it just didn't make sense

[12:28] without all the statistical data so I am sorry. I don't usually put documents

[12:32] that big in the agenda but we had a later agenda today so that does have all

[12:36] the graph work that came along with it. Uh there

[12:41] uh it is just a correspondence piece. Should council uh wish to participate

[12:47] and entertain a motion to uh send them our

[12:50] logo to attach to it if you're interested.

[12:54] » Okay, anybody have any

[12:58] thoughts on that? >> Is it strictly Alberta or is this

[13:00] nationwide? Like I I read BC and that kind of thing

[13:05] and uh

[13:08] there's pros and cons to both like >> the purpose of what they're doing for

[13:11] the call to action is actually specific to Alberta. It helps them to send it

[13:15] straight to the premier.

[13:18] » Yeah, it's interesting. When I was reading this, the only thought I had was

[13:21] uh you know, I I'm uh

[13:25] I'm kind of a pro guy, but I I I

[13:30] I would like to have a a way in cost cuz our costs are going up quite

[13:34] significantly with the RCMP over the next few years.

[13:38] It would sure be nice if our provincial government had some sort of idea what

[13:41] the matching costs would be for like our community if it was you know, I that

[13:46] would be a something to know what it is to have a to make a decision on, you

[13:50] know, it's cuz

[13:52] I I think we have pretty good officers here. I just

[13:56] you know, I I'd sure like to see what costs are

[13:58] going to be and what [clears throat] costs from the

[14:01] government are going to be cuz it's going to be in there play in our budget

[14:04] quite significantly over the next few years.

[14:06] » Go ahead, Dave. >> I

[14:08] it Your question is good, very good.

[14:12] But I would feel that uh Miss Smith

[14:17] it doesn't really know what those numbers are and I think it's going to be

[14:21] quite substantial. With the RCMP, that's federal, so we do

[14:25] get a bit of federal coming in to support the Royal Canadian Mounted

[14:30] Police. If it goes the other other way, I

[14:33] chances are we're not going to see federal and I think it would be more

[14:37] costly. >> Yeah, I don't know and that's what I was

[14:40] » I don't know either. I'm just putting my two bits

[14:42] » That's what I'd like to be able to have there so I can make a weighted decision

[14:45] on this. >> Yeah.

[14:46] » So. >> Well, I

[14:48] I think though that too is that some of the costs that we're

[14:52] seeing now have been created because of the

[14:56] larger municipalities that always have had to pay their share.

[14:59] » Yeah. >> And they saw a portion of the province

[15:02] that paid zero for the uh

[15:05] policing and so I I think they felt that this is more of a fairer method, but

[15:10] » And the other thing to keep in mind, this is just a letter of request from

[15:13] one group, the RMA, the Alberta Municipalities,

[15:17] many of the uh

[15:18] groups that council attends and and with are also doing the same thing,

[15:23] trying to get these numbers all these things together. So, this is just a

[15:26] request from them. >> And I think too on on this too,

[15:29] going back to exactly what Kim said, you know, to be honest with you, up until a

[15:33] few years ago, we hardly heard much from the

[15:38] the policing provincial wide, especially.

[15:42] We heard from our local people a little bit, but even that we heard more in the

[15:46] last four or five years than we ever heard in the past.

[15:50] But, Christian, you had a comment? >> Oh, I was just going to say if if the

[15:53] county's taken position on the matter at all.

[15:57] » I don't know. It's just like I said, this

[16:00] just came as correspondence. >> Okay.

[16:02] » And you got to remember this is >> [clears throat]

[16:03] » their union side of it. It's like the Canada Post. I mean,

[16:07] they've got their union side of it that's, you know, they're always asking

[16:10] for, you know, support. And again, not to say that there's anything wrong with

[16:14] supporting that side of the picture. It's just that

[16:17] you know, they're giving their views from what they see and uh

[16:22] potential. And again, like I said, in the in the last few years, we've seen

[16:26] more information than we've ever seen in the past.

[16:29] You know, some of us that have been around for a

[16:32] while, hardly ever heard from them other than, you know, their our local ones

[16:36] were good enough to come to our table, but nothing provincially or federally,

[16:40] so. But again, we don't have to do anything.

[16:43] This is >> Just receive it for information.

[16:45] » I'll make the motion to receive it for information.

[16:48] » Okay. So, Wayne will second the motion. Any other discussion on

[16:54] this? Hearing none, call the question. All in

[16:57] favor? Opposed? Seeing none, it is carried.

[17:01] Okay, and we'll move on to the cash statement

[17:04] as of today in June. >> As you can see, we're sitting in a

[17:08] decent financial position, but that's usually the case at the end of June, so.

[17:12] » [laughter]

[17:15] » That's what to do with the largest source of revenue for the we

[17:19] have here. >> And then unfortunately the the

[17:22] difference too is that um we don't get on a monthly basis, so

[17:26] » Yeah, absolutely. >> Okay, any questions on cash statement?

[17:32] If not, someone wish to move the cash statement. Uh Chantel.

[17:36] » Move it forward. >> Any discussion on Chantel's motion?

[17:42] Hearing none, I'll call the question. All in favor?

[17:45] Opposed? See none, it's carried unanimously.

[17:48] Year-to-date statement.

[17:52] » It's very straightforward unless uh there is something that caught council's

[17:56] attention, uh an anomaly that

[18:00] it's very interesting. >> school taxes are a dollar time?

[18:04] » That's because uh yeah, you put that in there and uh

[18:08] when we levy it, it goes in. So, on the school, we know those numbers, so

[18:13] and then we just levy it four times >> a year. Okay.

[18:21] Okay, any other questions on the

[18:25] year-to-date? Okay, I'll entertain a motion.

[18:30] Chris.

[18:34] Any discussion on Chris's motion? Hearing none, I'll call the question.

[18:38] All in favor? Opposed? See none, it's carried

[18:43] Okay, we'll move on to the next one, which is Darren. He could stay for the

[18:46] next one. >> [laughter]

[18:48] » He could He said he was pretty sure. >> finished his 15 minutes he was allotted.

[18:54] » It's like a >> Okay, anyway.

[18:56] You You heard the the comments and and uh

[19:00] » So, I had a chance to meet obviously with Darren beforehand and

[19:04] uh I've also uh spoke to public works about it. They told me feedback that

[19:08] they had is that should council want to participate in this,

[19:11] uh gives uh good grounds to have public

[19:15] works involved in because of course there's pavement on both sides of those

[19:18] trees and the excuse of that they've been very successful last couple of

[19:22] years with uh uh the timing of cutting the trees to then

[19:27] treating the stump and then when they grind to uh uh

[19:31] to limit the amount of uh sucker roots that do come up. And as you all are very

[19:36] aware, sucker roots when we do trim all of our trees, things like that, they are

[19:40] a huge detriment to sidewalks, asphalt, all those things. So yeah.

[19:45] So now Steve would like to share that information with the golf course,

[19:48] especially if they're going to do so many

[19:50] to try to keep the integrity of both their pathways and our pathways as as

[19:55] they do that work. >> And you know, like like

[20:00] he Darren was saying is there is two sides there that really do flank both

[20:05] the town's walking path and the and the golf course's cart path for the

[20:11] golf course's fairway and and green. So I I think that they did the right thing

[20:18] by planting trees behind them, but unfortunately now they've got these ugly

[20:22] trees that are And and again, he's he's right, you

[20:26] know, Fortis has not been kind enough to you know, you'd say well, instead of

[20:30] doing the butcher job you guys do on them, why don't you just

[20:33] chop them chop them down.

[20:36] And they have a budget, they have a program and

[20:40] they don't alter from that at all, so >> Yeah.

[20:43] » Chris >> Do you Do you have other municipalities?

[20:45] Do they have a similar arrangement like a cost sharing? Is that normal or is it

[20:49] just because of the because of the walking path and because of that shared

[20:52] pathway? >> Well, and then I think also too is that

[20:54] you know, we we have to also always remember is that the the that area

[20:58] belongs to the town. >> Yeah.

[21:00] » The golf course belongs to the town and we use it as part of our green space

[21:04] um allocations and the only one that's going to potentially affect us on a

[21:09] green space allocation is the school board that's coming up.

[21:14] » Yeah. >> Um cuz they can steal green space

[21:16] allocation or dollars.

[21:19] And um they uh

[21:22] But we have been good enough to use that green space allocation as part of the

[21:27] program we have here. >> Uh you know, if

[21:30] Darren you brought up the safety factor and and even our counselor

[21:34] uh Sanderson said that uh you know, playing there a tree comes down and

[21:39] if we know that information up front, we fail to act on it,

[21:43] are we not in some sort of liability in that, you know, like you live in that

[21:47] world. And um >> Well, this is now public knowledge.

[21:51] » Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah.

[21:52] » But but also too on the liability side too is that we do have a tree

[21:56] program too. And and you know, we cannot control mother nature

[22:00] » No. >> with the wind or the way the trees are

[22:02] grow. So, I mean, some of those trees look pretty decent on the outside and

[22:06] then it come down on the sudden you see there's a

[22:09] » Oh, all the way through the middle. >> middle of the middle of it.

[22:10] » Yeah. >> So, we go ahead.

[22:12] » One one thing to keep in mind with liability side is we're always liable on

[22:17] those. Uh but we also are covering our liability both from the golf course

[22:21] standpoint within their own insurance uh and the town's is we have tree

[22:26] programs in place. We can prove that we are doing ongoing maintenance of those

[22:30] certain things. And and we do risk That's why we do our trees out on the

[22:33] risk assessment uh side of things. Golf course has now come and said that their

[22:38] risk assessment on these trees is very high.

[22:42] It's going to take them And I guess that's the

[22:45] what was really put to me when asked bringing this proposal forward to

[22:50] council was left to their own devices, this could take them 20 years. And you

[22:54] know, what they're trying to do is bring it down to 4 years.

[22:58] And so, their ask being that $15,000 year

[23:04] that was to do the four years 145 that they got quoted.

[23:09] Our our cost share is 60,000. So, 15,000 a year we obviously didn't put it in the

[23:14] budget for this year, but council can look at it as as a one-time grant going

[23:19] forward to put it in the budget for the next 3 years if you're interested.

[23:23] That's logistically how you can do it. It is uh

[23:28] as Tom said, I mean you will hold title on all that land and it's all town land

[23:32] because that's that's where it's the unique partnership and it's I I wouldn't

[23:37] be able to tell you what that's like in other communities whether they

[23:40] they have that shared agreement or not.

[23:43] » So, you still >> You don't want to be like Edmonton right

[23:46] now. >> No.

[23:47] » Anyways, but I'll make the recommendation that council approves the

[23:51] Vulcan Golf and Country Club's request for funding of $15,000 per year for 4

[23:57] years for the removal of hazardous trees in coordination with public works on the

[24:03] perimeter of the golf course with funding for 2026

[24:07] of the $15,000 to be drawn from contingency reserves and directs

[24:12] administration to include 15,000 [clears throat]

[24:15] the one-time grant portion of 2729 operational budget.

[24:21] » Okay, thank you. Any discussion on Dwayne's motion?

[24:29] Okay. Hearing none, I'll call the question in

[24:31] favor. Opposed? Seeing none, it's carried

[24:34] unanimously. >> Okay, we'll move on. Yeah, I've got a

[24:38] question regarding the green space. Explain to me this green space.

[24:42] » Well, when when they subdivide a piece of

[24:45] property, a portion of the subdivision has to go to either green

[24:49] space or you can pay cash in lieu. And so, that's partly why when Dean

[24:55] Pollock did his area there, He wanted the second nine holes for two reasons.

[25:00] One is it creates a green space so he didn't have to put any money up. And

[25:04] number two, >> [clears throat]

[25:05] » he was able to retain the water from the storm waters onto those into those ponds

[25:10] and stuff like that. >> Okay, any large subdivision has to have

[25:13] 10% municipal reserve. >> Municipal. [clears throat]

[25:16] But the the school has first right of refusals on municipal on

[25:21] municipal reserves.

[25:25] So, that that's partly why, you know, that that green space that they call a

[25:30] football field or rugby field or whatever, it really and truly belongs to

[25:34] the town. They do all the maintenance on it, but

[25:38] it is part of our green space allocation too. So,

[25:42] you know, there might be a bit of a discussion if they built a new school

[25:47] depending on what happened. But anyway, >> On the south side of the hospital?

[25:50] » Yeah. Quite quite south.

[25:54] » [laughter] >> There was a

[25:57] comment [clears throat] that did come to me about building it at the corner

[26:00] store. >> A school?

[26:03] » A school. >> Oh, yeah.

[26:04] » Yeah. So, anyways, thank you for answering that,

[26:07] sir. >> Okay, go ahead.

[26:08] » Um, I just wanted to say one thing. I I noticed that our uh

[26:12] country club's been rebranding, so to speak, and they have

[26:16] some sort of new kind of marketing initiatives. And so, I've seen some of

[26:20] the stuff that they've recently put out on social media.

[26:23] They've made the course look absolutely beautiful, and it is in really good

[26:27] shape right now, and they've done a fantastic job of of showing it off. And

[26:32] so, if you haven't looked at some of their stuff on

[26:35] Instagram or Facebook, but I think they whoever they've hired to do that, they

[26:40] it looks very very well done and thoughtful.

[26:43] » But I think also, you know, >> Yeah, it looks good.

[26:45] » you take a look at the golf club for for years. They have tried different things,

[26:50] you know, they >> [clears throat]

[26:51] » joined a different, you know, I'm not a golfer, but they joined a a group where

[26:55] they, you know, sold [clears throat] the the

[26:58] golf course as being one of four or one of five or whatever, you know. They

[27:02] tried different things. Now, and I think that's great cuz I think you're right,

[27:06] you know, you [clears throat] got to kind of sometimes think outside the box.

[27:09] Um and unfortunately, you know, we that was one thing that our community has

[27:14] always been known for is our tree canopy. And you know,

[27:18] the the golf course has got a huge tree canopy and now all of a sudden it's

[27:22] coming back to haunt them because their trees are aging the same as ours are,

[27:27] but you know, and that's that's partly why

[27:30] the councils in the past have put funds away for trees and sidewalks and stuff

[27:37] » [clears throat] >> or slowly deteriorating in our community

[27:39] and so it you don't get hit with it all big time in one year and that's what

[27:43] they're unfortunately, [clears throat] so.

[27:45] Uh I think that, you know, but again that tries to answer your question on

[27:49] the green space allocation thing, so it's kind of a

[27:53] one that you kind of get nailed with, but

[27:56] Okay, well, we'll move on to Councillor Sanderson.

[28:00] » One pager. >> What? Bridge? What?

[28:03] » [laughter] >> July 14th at 8:30, um

[28:08] we had uh we reviewed a draft to apply for the

[28:12] BCSF, which is Built Community Strong Fund. This is uh I think through the

[28:17] Left Bridge program and we suggested some additions and changes and uh

[28:23] so Lorraine got that all done up for us and

[28:28] we uh got that sent off on Monday night.

[28:33] Monday afternoon. And July 14th, right after that we were supposed to have a

[28:37] design meeting, but Lorraine had another meeting and she couldn't come on and we

[28:41] needed her information, so that was canceled, so thank goodness.

[28:45] We could just have a visit until we realized she wasn't going to be able to

[28:48] make it back home. Uh July 15th at 3:00 p.m. we had a security and communication

[28:53] workshop with uh Gloria Kaufman from the Peter Dawson

[28:58] Lodge, myself, uh Bill and Jerry. Uh they were

[29:04] Jerry's with uh TWS and Bill's with Chandos, I believe. And Briane, uh Corey

[29:09] was unable to attend due to a sewer backup, so

[29:14] he had a good excuse. But we [snorts] did need him there. Uh

[29:17] we went through the plans on all the floors.

[29:20] We did room by room for security and communication, where cameras need to be

[29:24] located, which outside doors are fall back activated, the fire and smoke, the

[29:29] FD control panel, which is the remote access, where all cable accesses are

[29:33] located. Currently, there are two call bells call bells in every room, and

[29:40] those were not relegated for. So, by going through this

[29:43] room by room, you pick up you know, the lodge can say, "Well, hey,

[29:47] what about what about this? We don't have this in there." And it wasn't on

[29:50] their on their plan, so um they're getting pricing for that. Um

[29:55] you know where all the cable accesses are located, and um

[30:01] and uh this the call bells is going to cost us about 200,000.

[30:05] » Yeah. >> So, we need to know what our preference

[30:08] is. So, they'll be talking to the staff, we'll probably find out tomorrow night

[30:11] at our meeting, and what's affordable um prior to boarding up the walls, so it's

[30:16] all all in there. TV cables, I thought was pretty uh interesting they the way

[30:22] they set it up, you can plug into Shaw or Telus. It's very flexible, so you're

[30:27] not having to change out the So,

[30:31] they're pretty and Bill had power separate for because we have

[30:34] self-contained units in there. We have three two-bedroom, and I think 10

[30:38] bedrooms are considered self-contained, which is kind of what it is

[30:42] At the lodge, you know, those little separate buildings that are by Peter

[30:45] Dawson Lodge, those are considered self-contained units. Only we're going

[30:49] to have some self-contained and they're marketable, so you're going to make more

[30:53] money on them. So, that'll be a bigger income for us to help support paying

[30:57] this lodge off. So, that's uh why we went that way.

[31:02] So, he had under his understanding, he had

[31:06] two transformers, one for the lodge and then for the

[31:10] self-contained. But, that's not how we want to set up,

[31:15] so but it's cheaper to leave the transformer plan in there than to change

[31:19] it, so we're going to leave it and then he suggested increasing the um

[31:24] you know, kind of monitor the the amount of electricity and then make them pay a

[31:29] percentage of the bill, so we're going to figure

[31:32] that out. So, a lot of things you you learn that

[31:35] you didn't think you'd ever want to learn.

[31:38] Uh Jerry is going to do a camera review and advise how many cameras exactly in

[31:42] the building cuz there was a few missed, so he's going to do that. Uh July 16th,

[31:46] I attended an hour of the presentation by Paliser.

[31:50] Sorry, I had to leave, but personally

[31:53] my body needed it. July 20th, uh 9:30 a.m.

[31:58] Um we just went through the corrections

[32:01] that uh that uh Lorraine did on that Build

[32:05] Community Strong Fund and she got that sent out July 20th. July 22nd at 9:00

[32:11] a.m. Um Lorraine, Kelly, Dick Ellis, Gloria and

[32:15] myself, Brianne and Harmon from M3, Mike and Natalie, Amar, Bill Hamilton from

[32:21] Shandells and Megan from JMAA. Um

[32:26] had a a talk about some of the things that happened in the previous meeting.

[32:31] Um 50,000 is in our budget for the

[32:35] nurse 50,000 is in the budget for the nurse call button and the rest of money

[32:39] will have to come out of our budget. So, that's just more money that we're going

[32:42] to have to to raise. It's gets better.

[32:47] Um vinylized the less expensive flooring. It is LVT

[32:51] flooring and other cost savings we're going through again.

[32:55] Um Glorious Meeting Plus met with the school to find out tomorrow night and

[33:00] see if they will supply cuz a lot of times they'll come in and supply the

[33:04] towels toilet rolls and everything. So, just

[33:08] make sure that's all covered and they will do that for nothing.

[33:12] Um electrical is down 250,000. That's the good news, but heating went up 30%

[33:19] increase mechanical and heating up to a cost of 2 million dollars.

[33:24] So, checking to see if there are any other cost savings, what equipment went

[33:27] up, where increases are coming from. So, we require an additional 1.7.

[33:34] So, if we get this um

[33:38] Build Community Strong sign, I think we asked for just over 3 million, which was

[33:42] going to allow us to put everything in that we had cut before.

[33:46] But now it will hopefully we'll get it and it will cover

[33:49] this 1.7 and then put a few other things in that we had to and who knows what

[33:55] else. I mean, until we get all the trades locked in

[34:00] then our prices can fluctuate, right? Until that final hour. So,

[34:05] Uh so, we're praying for that. So, stay tuned.

[34:08] Uh tomorrow I have a couple of No, I just I have one meeting now, one

[34:13] raising meeting tomorrow morning. Our design meeting was canceled.

[34:17] Um they're waiting for some of these costs to come in before we meet again.

[34:21] Um and then the evening I have the Marcus Foundation meeting.

[34:26] On the 30th, uh we're supposed to have this meeting today, but it was canceled

[34:31] to uh with our lawyer to discuss any

[34:35] changes for the last agreement for senior seats. We'll be going to that

[34:39] later on Thursday.

[34:42] » Nice. >> know. We're getting closer, but

[34:44] » Yeah. Any questions for Judy?

[34:49] Thank you, Councillor Vote. >> As Judy said, I was

[34:53] also was at the Palliser school meeting on the 16th here and quite interesting

[34:59] lot of information. Um

[35:02] the very very first step. Um

[35:06] So, I I did find that very interesting. Some of the comments were interesting.

[35:10] Um I was quite surprised at the

[35:14] size of our school versus the percentage that's not that's not being used. That

[35:18] was quite quite an eye-opener.

[35:21] Um then uh

[35:25] I attended with Tom and Joan. We did the

[35:29] new pool sign uh unveiling on Saturday and did the parade

[35:34] with that and um it was kind of fun. We had a

[35:38] It was fun. We loved that. Um going to do the uh Strathmore parade

[35:42] on Saturday. I think Georgia Lee and I are going to do it. It's a Saturday,

[35:45] right? Yeah. And um

[35:49] uh then uh been having some comments on a

[35:52] couple things. Uh one of them in the business downtown uh the closures. Um

[35:57] just wondering if if there's anything we can do as a town, get together with

[36:02] small business, see if we can come up with any ideas

[36:05] to attract any small entrepreneurs into a

[36:09] a town like ours and uh there's lots of things in the way of doing it, but um

[36:15] I don't know. I just for me, I'm thinking we've got to do

[36:18] something, you know, and try to get some small business. I don't know how we can

[36:22] work with uh with the government provincial

[36:26] government to see if there's any incentives and we have the tax

[36:30] incentives in place already, but I'm just wondering if there's more that we

[36:34] can do as a town working together with other organizations to see if we can

[36:38] draw some smaller businesses in the town and

[36:42] see if we can fill some buildings. And um it's kind of been on my mind. The

[36:47] other one uh was um

[36:51] uh local coffee and girls coffee were

[36:54] talking about the pool and um uh they felt how unsafe it was and they

[37:01] Chris walked in while they were having the conversation, I guess, and um

[37:08] but um so that was brought forward to me and I

[37:13] said I would mention it and um just uh see if we're doing what we're

[37:18] doing about that and um so that was about it. Um

[37:25] And um

[37:29] just the local stuff, you know, what's going on, why they're digging a hole on

[37:32] our street and you know, and you know,

[37:35] just the average stuff. So, um

[37:38] one fellow I know from over at Okotoks, he was in the Tin Man and he said

[37:45] it's the first one he did and he said it was awesome. He uh really enjoyed it.

[37:50] And I said, "Well, you're right right by my house." He says, "Stopped and had a

[37:52] coffee." You know, >> [laughter]

[37:54] » and but uh um he said it was very well done. So, he

[37:59] he was very good to your town for that. So, that was about it.

[38:03] I was hoping I was wrong but there's no way.

[38:07] Okay. >> Any questions for Richard?

[38:10] » So, the the question about the businesses, is that like a taxpayer that

[38:14] came to you with that? >> That was um that was me. I'm watching

[38:19] them tear down signs. I'm watching them I'm thinking

[38:22] I know a couple people mentioned it to me, you

[38:26] know, the way we're traveling seems to be holding up. I said, you know,

[38:31] So, I said, you know, when I was looking at those, I was watching the CIBC sign

[38:35] come down and I was walking [clears throat] at Main

[38:37] Street and I drove up and down Main Street a couple times and I thought,

[38:40] what can we do? >> And now it was the same thing since

[38:44] then. >> Yes, there was that one too.

[38:46] » Was there any other one? >> Oh, okay.

[38:47] » It was both. >> Awesome.

[38:49] » Oh, I should have known that. >> Okay, I should have seen that they were

[38:51] shutting down and I should have known that they were closing down.

[38:54] » So, >> But you also have to remember though

[38:56] that in >> [clears throat]

[38:57] » in fairness, if you offer a incentive to anybody, you have to offer it to

[39:04] everybody. >> I don't

[39:05] » So, so you you got to be careful on that. I'm not I'm not saying it's wrong,

[39:10] I'm just saying that, you know, you got it that's part of it why we came came up

[39:13] with that incentive program. And and I think we need to flog it a little bit

[39:16] more if somebody comes along and say, "Hey, there is programs out there." And

[39:21] you know, I mean, Lyle did have three opportunities to sell that one lot.

[39:27] » Yeah. >> But they turned it down

[39:29] because they restrictions on them. Yeah, they wanted to buy it to, you

[39:35] know, make it into a park. But they only wanted to pay $50 a year

[39:39] or zero for taxation on it, you know, that type of thing. So, you know, we

[39:45] only need so many parks and we only need so many gazebos and so many bell towers

[39:50] and so many, you know, type things in our community. So, you know, but again,

[39:54] just always remember in the back of your mind that if you offer an incentive to

[39:59] one group, you have to offer it to everybody.

[40:02] » I understand that, Mr. Mayor. Um, I just got in office and experienced um

[40:06] when I started my business, Small Business Alberta, I went to them and it

[40:11] was funny, they flat out told me, "No." And then when we bought the shop, you

[40:17] know, the Sears building, we bought that and then

[40:21] they walked in one day and I said, "If I hired a man and if I bought a vehicle,

[40:25] you would have gave me $200,000 right now." They said, "You're right." And I

[40:30] So, I was thinking along that premise. I know with the town we have tax

[40:34] incentives for your business, you know, to start, but I I was thinking along

[40:38] that premise, if if there's any way we could come together

[40:42] find out from the provincial side what we could both come together and offer

[40:46] as, you know, we have ours, they have theirs, and maybe there's a thing.

[40:50] You're leaving it at me. Go ahead. >> I just to to that point asking what what

[40:54] we can do, those sort of things. Just keep in mind, we're just wrapping up and

[40:59] will be presented to council fairly quickly that new economic development

[41:02] plan that we've been working on for so long that addresses small business stuff

[41:05] in town as well. And if anybody is asking you about small business help in

[41:10] our community, we're still members of Community Futures Highwood. And that's

[41:13] that's huge. That's one of the one of the largest

[41:16] funders of small business in southern Alberta. So, yeah.

[41:19] » Okay. >> We should We're we're still actively

[41:21] participating in that. We So, those are the things just should

[41:26] that come up, what are we working on right now, those those could answer

[41:30] those. >> Well, thank you. Appreciate that.

[41:32] » No, well, that's great. I mean I mean it's out there. I mean there is

[41:35] concerns. I mean I'm not a big Facebook person, but you

[41:39] know, when you read some of it, you have to read between the lines, too, you

[41:42] know? I mean somebody looking for a tire, too, but yeah, you know, you

[41:47] then when a person says, "Well, check Lowe's Hardware." You know, 15 said, "Go

[41:51] on Amazon." And you know, you sit back and go, you know,

[41:55] um Olds tried to say, you know, the Amazons and uh Purolators and uh

[42:01] Peerless trucks stop at the curb and they have to pay a uh price to come into

[42:07] the community. Uh they got hung up to dry on that one.

[42:12] and uh but again you know it's So, how many people are selling their their

[42:16] stuff because they ordered it from Amazon and it doesn't work or doesn't

[42:20] fit or but yet you know what you need a quart of milk and what are you going to

[42:23] do [clears throat] you want to complain because you

[42:25] you know you drive to Lethbridge and spend $500 on on groceries and yet you

[42:31] you know complain because you your quart of milk is you know

[42:36] a little higher or whatever so I mean there there is that

[42:39] pros and cons to the treaty 2018 >> So they can find out about Community

[42:44] Futures because if you come to the bank and you can't do the loan for them they

[42:48] they give you a contact and they will the

[42:52] bank will contact Community Futures and set up so that you can get your business

[42:56] up and running too so there's everybody's working

[42:58] » We we let every business know that as well

[43:03] from a council standpoint as far as sales of buildings and things don't

[43:08] lots of times we cannot we we take all of this information in confidentially so

[43:13] a sale of a building for another business may not be common

[43:17] knowledge

[43:20] we do try to keep that >> Um well I think it was a concept that we

[43:24] we we spoke about a little bit at the strategic planning we talked about

[43:28] businesses and I mentioned what can we do right and it's looking at okay well

[43:34] what can council control and focus on what we can control like well we can't

[43:39] can't try to just fill downtown so we have to incentivize people to come in

[43:46] and advertise for businesses to come in that

[43:49] will help the community and goods and services goods are

[43:53] are and it's tough to have open up a shoe store in town and

[43:58] thrive right in in the Amazon world we live in

[44:02] we're disproportionately affected by area and distance that's just something

[44:06] that is in our makeup and so we have to have

[44:10] service-based businesses Those are the businesses that are doing

[44:14] well. And so I think if Main Street changes from goods to more service-based

[44:20] buildings over time, but I think we focus on what we can control

[44:25] and what can we control? We can we can look for the industrial side.

[44:30] That That getting larger base businesses in town that create jobs that bring

[44:36] people into town that make them move here and then that creates the demand

[44:39] for downtown core that language. So

[44:43] Um so I think it's focusing on that stuff and then we're coming into these

[44:47] capital projects like with with the school and the lodge and and um other

[44:53] things that are happening within industrial parks both county and town.

[44:58] And those things I think if we do a good job advertising that and and promoting

[45:04] that side, I think all the other stuff comes into play a little bit better. So

[45:09] it's it's uh I think that's a tertiary effect

[45:12] of of all the other things that we can control or towards and you know

[45:18] administration and previous councils they've have done a great job making

[45:23] downtown look look wonderful, but we can't control the individual owners of

[45:29] the businesses. We can give those tax incentives and

[45:33] » Well, I'm not saying I'm not saying control them. I'm just No.

[45:36] » Yeah. >> But how can we you're talking about

[45:38] helping like not necessarily that >> that control. It's it's you know, you

[45:42] want to be fair to everyone. >> Oh yeah.

[45:45] » For sure. >> You're just hearing a little of my heart

[45:48] right there.

[45:50] » And again, we're you know, we're not trying to

[45:52] belittle anybody's thoughts or philosophies at all on it. It's just

[45:56] that you know, it it's not as easy as a person thinks

[46:01] and and it's easy to sit

[46:04] behind your computer or your coffee shop or whatever

[46:10] and and come up with all these suggestions and

[46:14] and yet quite often, you know, it's there's more to it than that. You know,

[46:19] it's I was once told that a subject's like a

[46:22] cup, you know, you have to go all the way around the cup to understand it.

[46:26] And and I think you know, that's the same thing with this here is that

[46:29] there's more there's more moving parts than people think. All they see is what

[46:33] they see. >> Yeah.

[46:34] » And some of them have their blinders on, you know, really quite tight. So, but

[46:38] again, I think education exactly what we talked about here

[46:42] tonight, you know, there's lots of things out there that some of us don't

[46:45] remember or didn't realize are still out there. And if somebody has a question,

[46:50] you know, try and send them in that right

[46:53] direction. And so that we can move it forward but

[46:57] » Okay, appreciate all your comments. Thank you very much.

[46:59] » Anything else for Richard? Yeah, he comes.

[47:02] » you said something about the pool and Um

[47:06] Did you want to say anything about that or did

[47:08] » The >> Talk about safety or something.

[47:10] » Yeah. Yeah, so as you're as you were all aware

[47:14] from the last council meeting, we uh have someone fall on the on

[47:19] » Oh, it's okay. >> And there was a group at a restaurant

[47:24] apparently that had words with Chris about how unsafe

[47:27] the floor was and he defended that with

[47:30] with our procedures that we have in place. We sweep the floors every 15

[47:33] minutes. We have signs posted from a liability standpoint.

[47:37] But it was brought up that there should be flooring should be put in. And of

[47:40] course all the public suggestions that should be there without any

[47:43] further thought to mold growing, rubber flooring and all of those things. So,

[47:49] from our standpoint with Alberta Health Services that uh

[47:55] that looks after our our pool. Our procedures are sound.

[47:59] » Mhm. And uh pool floors are are slippery. They when

[48:04] they have water on them. That's why we implemented the 15-minute squeegee cycle

[48:09] between their rotations on and off the deck.

[48:13] And uh we are covering all our sides. But

[48:17] and Chris did explain that to the >> Yeah. It didn't sound like it was very

[48:20] well received. >> Yeah.

[48:22] » And in a public forum that's hard to listen to.

[48:25] Yeah, absolutely. >> Yeah, you know and and I worked at a

[48:28] swimming pool for four over well, three different swimming pools over 40 years

[48:32] and uh uh you know, in those 40 years I saw 40

[48:37] different things that were tried to make the floors not slippery and and you

[48:43] know, right from exactly Kim said, you know,

[48:46] one pool floor they put these rubber chips

[48:49] down and you know, you'd go through a mop every 2 days. You know, because

[48:53] » The last week were very hard on it. >> And and you know, sandblasting and I

[48:58] mean, there was everything that you could think of was tried and uh

[49:04] I think I don't think there's a pool out there that has found a

[49:09] perfect system. Um so and again, exactly Kim said uh Alberta Health uh

[49:16] um definitely comes down on you if you have water standing, but yet on the

[49:21] other hand, if you don't clean it enough or it doesn't

[49:25] enough, you get in trouble, too. So, I mean Yeah. You know, I I think

[49:28] procedures and education is the best that we can do. So.

[49:32] » I appreciate it. But it's still >> So, just um going forward, there isn't

[49:36] further discussion about any changes to the flooring. We're strictly just

[49:41] sticking with the procedures that are in place.

[49:44] » Yeah, cuz we're redoing the flooring and that uh we haven't even put a cost

[49:48] estimate something like that. >> And again, what what do you do?

[49:51] » This was engineered for a pool setting. And

[49:54] it's a It's only 5 years old, 6 years old now.

[49:58] So, the procedures that we have in place for squeegeeing the floors and that are

[50:02] as high a standard as every other pool out there.

[50:06] And and I can guarantee you there isn't a pool in all of St. Albert that hasn't

[50:11] had the same discussion at some point in

[50:14] time depending on what's going on. >> Yeah.

[50:17] » And and uh >> So, with finance and whatnot, that we're

[50:22] not held liable if somebody were to fall then and as long as we're putting up the

[50:28] » Wait. So, so on the liability side, we're always liable. If somebody gets

[50:32] hurt on a town town facilities, we're always liable. But, we limit that

[50:37] liability by posting signs, by having procedures in place. The same as pothole

[50:42] patching or fixing sidewalks or any of those things. We put the programs in

[50:46] place. We acknowledge that there's a hazard there that we are

[50:50] » Yeah. >> And so, by This is what Chris tried to

[50:53] explain. With us squeegeeing the floor 15 minutes on a cycle as the lifeguards

[50:58] are coming off the deck, that is our procedure to make sure that

[51:02] the floors are being done and the HS is we're above standards with that. We get

[51:07] get trouble for that. So. So, yeah. And the different flooring

[51:11] materials there Anyway, as Tom said, we tried

[51:14] everything. We We sanded lots of We put glass beads

[51:17] down and they were good.

[51:20] Uh fantastic first year, second year, they

[51:23] were slipperier than the floor was before. Uh

[51:26] you can put down matting, those sort of things, but those have to be lifted

[51:29] every 15 minutes to to squeegee because uh they will grow mold and that's way

[51:36] more hazardous than posting a sign and having people

[51:41] walk Then again, those are the rules for keeping kids from running and And it's

[51:45] unfortunate that we have wet areas like that and

[51:49] uh over my career I have seen a lot of

[51:52] falls in all of our different pools. It's unfortunate when it happens and we

[51:58] have modified our procedures to where we are today to try to keep that from

[52:02] happening. But again, somebody running or rolling an ankle or

[52:07] or whatever may happen. That's Sometimes it's an

[52:11] accident as well. >> Out of curiosity, that accident that

[52:15] took place, was that um outside or was that inside?

[52:18] » inside the dressing room. >> Okay.

[52:20] » And again, lots of times it's unfortunate, but they are accidents.

[52:24] Like there's nothing And this is the other way to look at liability from the

[52:28] town side. Did the town do something negligent to cause this to happen? And

[52:33] by showing everything that we do, there's nobody that works for the town

[52:38] or is in administration for the town that is negligently doing something to

[52:43] harm people. >> Well, and this is the thing is, like you

[52:46] can squeegee the floor a million times and that's great. It it limits it, but

[52:50] as soon as someone gets out of the pool and they're soaking wet,

[52:52] they're walking and the water they're dragging along. So it really I mean,

[52:56] that's the best that we can do. Does that make sense?

[53:00] » Okay. Anything else? Thank you, Richard. Councillor Vote, do you have any?

[53:04] » I just had the meeting with Councillor, which I thought was interesting. It was

[53:08] kind of nice to get the information about where they stand at the moment

[53:11] because then we were able to pass that information on to to locals and help

[53:16] kind of calm everyone down a little bit with what the plans are and timeline and

[53:21] all of that fun stuff. So um I look forward to the meeting that we

[53:25] have the joint meeting with the county. I think that's going to be

[53:30] interesting. Um I do believe I plan on attending the

[53:35] Strathmore race this weekend. Other than that, I've got nothing.

[53:40] » Okay. Any questions for Shantal? Councillor

[53:46] » Uh for me, same thing with the uh Palister meeting.

[53:51] Uh well, it's great, you know, early, of course, but I think

[53:55] getting both municipalities on side on on potential funding and different

[54:00] things on uh on the project, I think it's great

[54:04] before the meeting in September. Standard does the scoping, so

[54:09] I think that's that's really good. Um you know, it was seemed to be a pretty

[54:13] friendly meeting, and they're more than willing to meet

[54:17] other times, and so I thought that was a great first step.

[54:23] And uh look forward to the the meeting on the 5th.

[54:27] And uh yeah, I have a And then, following that meeting on the

[54:32] 5th, there's a I'll be in a inter-municipal development

[54:36] meeting, my first one. >> Okay.

[54:38] » All right. So, that'll be fun, and um yeah, other than that, I have a little

[54:44] bit of correspondence with with Angela. I have a phone call with her tomorrow,

[54:49] which is her giving me a quick update on things.

[54:52] There most likely will be a release of funds at some point in the near future,

[54:57] but I'll get more details as that kind of comes through, so.

[55:01] Yeah, [snorts] other than that, that's it.

[55:03] » Okay, any questions for Chris? >> I'm just going to make a comment about

[55:07] the Palister thing. Actually, after sharing some of the information with not

[55:11] only adults, but some of the kids too, that have been curious and a little

[55:15] concerned about what's going on with the school, it was interesting to hear some

[55:18] of their points of view on what they would like to see in the school system.

[55:22] I know it's been brought up by a few kids that um

[55:26] they fear going to the bathroom at the school, and so they really like to see

[55:30] some safety regulations put in place when it comes to bathroom use.

[55:35] Um so, it it's just going to be really interesting, I think, to see to hear

[55:39] some of the different perspectives from teachers, EAs, um, parents, and then

[55:44] kids are a big, you know, a big part of it. I think it will be fun to to listen

[55:49] to it and hear what they have to say. It definitely opened my eyes, and I work in

[55:53] the school, and it [clears throat] they really opened my eyes to what they feel

[55:56] on a daily basis and what they feel like they need to be able to, um, feel

[56:01] comfortable. >> One question that I was going to ask to

[56:05] you that I forgot to ask in the meeting was if they've interviewed, uh, like the

[56:10] actual staff. Right? Cuz they sent out the survey

[56:13] » the the survey. >> I'm getting a lot of negative feedback

[56:16] from the survey. Like overall, most people that filled it out didn't like

[56:19] the way the survey was done, but, you know,

[56:22] » I think >> But, uh, I thought that it would be nice

[56:24] to see what the teach how the teaching staff at the because they know the

[56:29] facility better than anyone, right? And what the what students need and whatnot.

[56:34] So, it'd be interesting to see that lens.

[56:36] » I think they sent out >> I'm not sure how it works because, you

[56:39] know, they're part of the union and then it's So, I I don't know if it's a

[56:43] » I think they're going to really see a huge Once they've been in that facility

[56:48] for a long length of time, they're going to see a big shock when they see 50% of

[56:53] that building gone. >> Yeah, exactly.

[56:55] » Yeah, and you lose you lose that second gym cuz you're only going to have one

[56:59] gym unless somebody in the public's going to build one, and then they get to

[57:02] use it, you know? So, uh, I I think there are a lot of teachers

[57:07] that have The one gentleman that was here talked about working in the in the

[57:12] in the >> in the CTS

[57:14] » CTS, you know, you get that cut by at least 50%, maybe 75%.

[57:19] » Maybe. >> You know, and and all of a sudden

[57:21] they're going to have their eyes open, and they're going to say maybe they're

[57:24] whining and complaining because the electrical or the air conditioning's not

[57:29] as good as it should be or the >> not enough natural light

[57:31] » Yeah, not not, yeah. >> I think the new the new like building a

[57:36] brand new it's be careful what you wish for.

[57:38] » Well, I know and I think that's one thing we we need to really definitely

[57:43] go out to the public and say you know, be careful of what you ask for

[57:47] because you know, like you know, 50% to 60% and you know, and they the

[57:52] chairman of of Palliser, the reason why that he thought that CCHHS should have

[57:57] been number one for years is because of the operating costs.

[58:02] » I don't want to with the math on that but they factor in

[58:06] the CRC portion of it. That's where like I hear from some people that it's like

[58:11] oh, it's skewed because of they're putting them the equation in and the way

[58:15] they do the math they include that whole CRC and then it just manipulation

[58:20] » They have they have but again, the the school

[58:22] system has a CRC from 6:00 in the morning till 6:00 o'clock at night every

[58:27] day or I shouldn't say five five days a week for sure

[58:31] from 6:00 to 6:00 and so if you don't want the numbers, don't ask

[58:36] for the facility. So that's that's where the public is and the the teachers and

[58:41] the students and parents you know, I've been spoiled because that

[58:45] building was designed for 750 kids and you're under 300. You know, so you're

[58:50] you're less than 50% right now. >> if I remember right.

[58:54] » So I mean so you you really have to sit back and say again exactly what you're

[58:58] saying is that be careful what you ask for because when you get it, it might

[59:01] not be exactly what you want and I think that's where

[59:06] a lot of them don't understand. >> Yeah, that's one so I think

[59:10] you know, there may be a more of a leaning to like a hybrid model where you

[59:14] keep keep the facility keep the building.

[59:17] » And again, you don't but you take a look at them you know, the again, this is up

[59:21] to Palliser to make that decision do but I mean

[59:24] you know, $30,000 $30 million

[59:28] to renovate or $35 million to build new. Ooh, which one would I go with? I would

[59:33] go with the $35 million to build new and then take that

[59:36] » The city said the $35 million was 5-year numbers.

[59:39] » Yeah. >> That could be 40. [laughter]

[59:41] » Yeah, that's going to be. >> Well, but I mean, you know, Coalhurst

[59:44] will definitely be but they're they're getting modernization. They're not

[59:47] getting a rebuild. I mean, they're they're not a brand new.

[59:50] They're getting a modernization and yet their population is ex-

[59:54] » 60 >> you know, is is going up extremely.

[59:56] » Yeah. >> You know, where ours and and the numbers

[59:59] that they're predicting too for population growth is like when we built

[1:00:02] the hospital, you know, they believe believed in in 30 years

[1:00:06] we'd be over 5,000 people in the town of Vulcan.

[1:00:10] » Yeah. >> You know, it hasn't happened when we

[1:00:12] built that one in 1980. You know, so it's [clears throat] again, be careful

[1:00:16] what you ask for cuz sometimes when you get it

[1:00:19] » Mhm. >> Anyway,

[1:00:21] it'll be interesting to see but you know, there isn't and again too, you

[1:00:24] know, that that's the thing that bothers me the most about the

[1:00:27] the surveying. It it's doesn't matter what group you

[1:00:31] were at with, whether it's young, middle,

[1:00:35] our age group or the seniors, you know, everybody wants this to give you this

[1:00:40] information but 99% of them don't. All we want to do is, you know, like

[1:00:45] like they hardly give you that information in a timely fashion.

[1:00:50] I mean, you know, they talked about Palliser came to us or we went to them

[1:00:53] and asked for this meeting. And then the other in September, you

[1:00:57] know, a month and a half of time to to come with all these

[1:01:01] questions, with all these suggestions and all these ideas.

[1:01:05] You know, a month and a half. If we wouldn't have

[1:01:07] asked for this meeting, we would be

[1:01:11] we you know, what would we have done? You know, Stantec would have showed up

[1:01:15] here. >> In September, yeah.

[1:01:17] » And you know, would we even known about it?

[1:01:21] » And that meeting's an open forum for everyone.

[1:01:23] » It is. And it's just like where it just be at the town hall or wherever it is.

[1:01:28] » Well, it could be might be in the Legion or at the Irish Hall.

[1:01:31] » I see it sitting >> Okay.

[1:01:33] » I see it in the CRC CRC. >> Yeah, it could be right. Yeah, that's a

[1:01:36] good good place to have it in. But but you you go there and watch the numbers.

[1:01:40] You know, you you listen to the whining and complaining and carrying on in life

[1:01:44] and then how many people show up. >> You know.

[1:01:47] » It'll be It'll be 2% and yet, you know, there'll be

[1:01:51] how many people So, I mean, if you look at the stats that they gave us on those

[1:01:54] Dwayne didn't get them, did you? Unfortunately, we should give you a copy

[1:01:58] of them. Uh of of of that survey, how many people

[1:02:01] were from, you know, town, how many were from county, and how many were

[1:02:05] educational teachers, you know.

[1:02:08] » No, she didn't supply that survey. She didn't.

[1:02:10] » Really? >> Jill provided the survey.

[1:02:12] » She showed us the the pies the pie charts on the back of that one. So,

[1:02:15] yeah. >> Yes. Yeah. But she was going to supply

[1:02:18] me a digital one. >> Yeah.

[1:02:20] » So. >> But anyway, I mean, so it's there there

[1:02:24] is but >> Mhm.

[1:02:25] » Yeah. >> It'll be interesting, so.

[1:02:27] » I think it'll be more interesting just on the practice center side, too. Like

[1:02:30] that's I would be interesting to get that.

[1:02:33] » Well, and we need to do some soul searching on that side, too. So.

[1:02:36] » Mhm. Well, that's one of the main

[1:02:39] » When they when you know, when they talk about the the facility that's that's,

[1:02:43] you know, it's going to need a new roof in the next 2 years and a new heating

[1:02:46] system in the next 2 years and you know, and you go

[1:02:50] Okay, this facility is less than 40 years old and and uh

[1:02:55] » And there's probably an input of probably 300 to 400,000 that have to go

[1:03:00] into that building. >> So, but anyway.

[1:03:03] » Yeah, well, they said a million dollars for the roof.

[1:03:05] » Yeah, just in that. But it's >> Mhm.

[1:03:08] » It's government. >> Okay, anything else for Chris?

[1:03:13] If not, thank you, Counselor Hill. >> I don't understand parade.

[1:03:18] » [laughter] [snorts]

[1:03:19] » Three other people ride with me to Calgary. It was most enjoyable.

[1:03:23] I did get a text message on uh

[1:03:32] Put this up here. Just give me a second, please. I'm

[1:03:36] sorry. >> [snorts]

[1:03:38] » It would have been on the 15th

[1:03:43] from Mr. Ellis that the Mosely Transfer Station had

[1:03:48] been broken into and uh

[1:03:52] they were apprehended by the RCMP. I haven't heard any more with regards to

[1:03:57] that. >> Did they steal the garbage or did they

[1:03:59] uh >> No, they were bringing the garbage in

[1:04:01] and dumping it. >> Okay. No, that's good.

[1:04:03] » So, yeah. Yeah, which I I kind of found weird as well. Uh

[1:04:08] but other than that, no. Um our Foothills Regional Emergency Services

[1:04:13] Commission meeting was canceled. I think they're going to try for

[1:04:18] another meeting in August, late August. And that that was it.

[1:04:24] Kind of holiday. It was cold, rainy. No sunshine.

[1:04:28] » It was It was hot here. It was >> Yeah, I know. I heard.

[1:04:31] Yeah, but the bunch of those uh American people

[1:04:35] they were freezing to death. I've never seen toques, gloves, mitts, jackets,

[1:04:40] scarves. >> It's 15°.

[1:04:43] » Yeah. They're walking around in shorts and a

[1:04:45] » T-shirt. Yeah. >> So, no, that's it, Mr. Mayor.

[1:04:48] » Okay. Any questions for Dwayne? And I thank you very much. And I too was

[1:04:53] at the Foothills meeting, but uh I too was uh have lots of ideas and thinking,

[1:04:58] but uh again, I think we need to really uh

[1:05:01] contemplate what we are our ask would be um and what our contribution would be.

[1:05:07] Um I I think we have a in their eyes a very

[1:05:11] good working relationship and I think that

[1:05:14] that's that's a good one and you know we've heard from Don once that

[1:05:18] you know it took our

[1:05:22] our agreement and kind of expanded it to to to fit for other municipalities and

[1:05:27] and so I I think we're ahead of the game on

[1:05:30] one event but so I think again you know our our wants

[1:05:35] and asks and and our our needs are all going to be altered a little bit

[1:05:40] because what we're going to accustomed to.

[1:05:43] Um I had a SEWA meeting and then a an hour and a half

[1:05:49] meeting again today on SEWA so it's uh it's it's getting uglier as the days go

[1:05:55] on but hopefully we will see something happen soon over in in Newell uh solid

[1:06:02] waste and that might alleviate some of our problems with

[1:06:06] what's what's going on so Um I too like Richard said I went to

[1:06:11] Vulcan. I went and got the float and took it

[1:06:16] down and then met up with Richard and Joan and

[1:06:19] and Richard walked in the parade and it was it was good to see. There was a

[1:06:24] two two of the stars that they had they couldn't believe what we've done. You

[1:06:29] know what I mean? It's it's really funny you know

[1:06:32] it's it's like so many things in life you know people that come into your

[1:06:35] community sometimes are just gobsmacked by what's going on what's here and what

[1:06:40] we've got and what's going on and yet locally we think that we've got nothing

[1:06:44] and and uh

[1:06:46] and and I think by slowly trying to build on the on it and

[1:06:51] and um and and move the project forward I think

[1:06:55] it I think it's the the best thing that we can do you know every couple years

[1:06:59] try and do something and and uh make it so that there's more things for

[1:07:04] people to come to but Um I did watch a interview with a one of

[1:07:09] the vendors um, on channels um,

[1:07:14] global and uh, you know, he was did had nothing

[1:07:19] but great things to say about the facilities that we have and and what was

[1:07:23] going on and the whole thing. I mean, it was just a real good interview and

[1:07:27] after, you know, listening to the whining and complaining

[1:07:30] because >> But let's not forget your taxi driving

[1:07:33] because I was coming up and you had a a bunch of people

[1:07:37] » And that was the same thing, you know, Richard comes along and and he he said,

[1:07:42] you know, I said to him, "Well, I'm not going back

[1:07:44] to the to the tourist center." And then the then the float wouldn't start

[1:07:49] because I had the generator on, but I didn't have

[1:07:53] the town crew had taken the battery charger off. So, then I put the

[1:07:57] battery charger on and then I got it going. And then these these women that

[1:08:01] couldn't walk in the parade said, "How are we going to

[1:08:05] get back?" So, I gave them I was giving them a ride. So, I get down there and I

[1:08:09] thought, "Well, maybe I can catch Richard before Richard comes back and

[1:08:12] gives me a boost." And then I didn't see you, but

[1:08:15] » I drove by and you saw these people sitting there.

[1:08:17] » So, I yeah, I was a taxi guy back down. So,

[1:08:21] then I dropped them off, I come back to the town shop and I didn't have the keys

[1:08:26] to my van and I went down town taking my cell phone. So, now here I am at the

[1:08:30] town shop, how do I get Well, I tried using the phone system, but I couldn't

[1:08:35] get through and anyway, it was a gong

[1:08:39] the whole back part. But anyway, I did get finally find a method to get my

[1:08:44] send out smoke signals >> out of the back of the starship.

[1:08:50] I had to laugh. I had to laugh. >> I felt so bad cuz here I said to

[1:08:55] Richard, "Oh, I need a boost." and he went to get the vehicle and then he come

[1:08:58] come back and I'm gone, so >> Well, no, actually, you were coming down

[1:09:01] Main Street with all the I drove by, you didn't see me. I waved to you. And I

[1:09:05] thought, well, he's doing taxi service now, and so it's working.

[1:09:08] » Yeah, well, they thought it was good. But anyway,

[1:09:11] you know, I the little bit that I had to do with

[1:09:14] the Vulcan was great. And I I think the signage and

[1:09:18] the rock Yeah. We were proposing it to us is was a a win-win. And And so, I

[1:09:25] think once it gets all up and running, I too am looking forward

[1:09:29] to the uh Vulcan County meeting that's coming up. And

[1:09:33] again, the parade in And um Strathmore. So, Chris will be sending

[1:09:37] out a what time we are going to meet. And And

[1:09:41] uh so, those that are coming can meet up and we'll

[1:09:46] go to Strathmore on Saturday evening. And that's pretty well it for me.

[1:09:53] Any questions? >> Shouldn't be.

[1:09:55] » If not, somebody wish to move the uh verbal reports.

[1:09:59] Richard? >> Okay.

[1:10:02] » An ADR. I'm not >> Okay. Any discussion on Richard motion?

[1:10:07] Hearing none, >> I have a question in the favor.

[1:10:10] » Thank you very much, everybody. And moving on to action list.

[1:10:15] » So, my pretty big board, we had the two things from the last meeting, obviously.

[1:10:18] Uh I got the

[1:10:21] Dwayne at the last minute because of vacation to get his oath of office done.

[1:10:25] But uh I mean, it's all there before you now.

[1:10:28] My agenda needed to be published. >> So.

[1:10:30] » Uh unless there's any questions on

[1:10:33] » There There was a uh a

[1:10:36] uh one of the things that we're kind of disappointed that we don't have it on

[1:10:39] our action list that I didn't know that was the first thing that was on our

[1:10:42] action list for the last 5 years. >> was the uh

[1:10:45] » the birds of >> the birds of prey.

[1:10:47] » They brought it up as a you know, when are we going to get the birds of prey?

[1:10:50] » Mhm. >> And so,

[1:10:53] » Any proposal that comes forward, I still got it uh tucked away in back the

[1:10:57] » I I I said to them back I I

[1:11:00] said that if you had some cash and you wanted to make a donation that we would

[1:11:04] put it towards it, but uh nobody came with

[1:11:09] But anyway, sorry. >> So, on to my uh report, pretty

[1:11:13] straightforward. Uh you've all had a chance to read it, so uh

[1:11:17] obviously lots of questions with the Parks Foundation.

[1:11:21] The still, which is good. Uh the our street program, they you can see the

[1:11:25] construction moments in it working. They're currently 1 day behind. We have

[1:11:28] a site meeting tomorrow. Try to get that back on track.

[1:11:32] Uh Quite a bit of work with the golf course

[1:11:36] public works on that on that proposal. Uh quite a bit of

[1:11:41] research on the county land use bylaw and the before what's going up for the

[1:11:45] inter-municipal uh development committee. I do have some things to send

[1:11:50] out to you as well, Chris. Keep that. Uh

[1:11:54] The water break in Birch, uh that happened during all the rest [snorts] of

[1:11:58] the stuff that was going on. Uh water was down by uh

[1:12:03] 11:00. They had it isolated. Uh had it back on by 7:00 that evening. So, uh

[1:12:09] fairly limited effect and really only affected Birch Road, Birch Bay

[1:12:14] um for the most part.

[1:12:17] And again, with Rita being away, you have lots of business licenses and

[1:12:24] uh uh tax uh or sorry, uh your compliance certificates.

[1:12:28] Putting people to the right place for uh uh for permits, those sort of things. Uh

[1:12:34] been working uh

[1:12:37] answering questions from community members on data centers. Lots of people

[1:12:40] asking lots of questions. Uh I

[1:12:45] been very clear that I'm a long ways from being an expert and

[1:12:49] perhaps filtering things online might be a good start to

[1:12:53] move from there, so. And uh

[1:12:57] my formal meetings, obviously Golf Course Executive Paliser meeting was uh

[1:13:00] it was excellent. Uh should be able to get together with the

[1:13:03] county and and see what kind of happening there is uh

[1:13:07] should there uh be

[1:13:11] that project start to move forward. Uh had a meeting with Davis in, for

[1:13:14] those of you that you remember, I participated in a 3-day infrastructure

[1:13:19] uh workshop. And uh the results of that have come out. They're actually starting

[1:13:23] to be tested. And uh Mountain View would like to

[1:13:27] well, most likely be coming to our next council meeting and should the mayor

[1:13:31] approve it to be on the agenda, she'd like well, it's the opportunity to be

[1:13:35] one of the first in the province to try it

[1:13:37] should you be interested in this one. Uh um

[1:13:41] it [snorts] will have to be closed session because there's some proprietary

[1:13:45] and uh and uh Sorry.

[1:13:49] » [snorts] >> Uh procure procure

[1:13:52] procurement Uh

[1:13:54] changes that will go along with that, so uh

[1:13:57] Uh we're looking forward to getting that project forward. I had a really good

[1:14:00] meeting with her and uh and it's looking really promising.

[1:14:05] Kind of nice when you do 3 days worth of work and actually see some

[1:14:09] results out of it, so. And then obviously been back and forth almost

[1:14:14] every day with CEMA on on the street program. Again, because

[1:14:18] this our next project relies so heavily on the first part, we're watching this

[1:14:22] one very closely to make sure.

[1:14:25] And uh that's

[1:14:27] the last couple weeks. >> Okay.

[1:14:31] Go ahead, Chris. >> Quick question.

[1:14:32] » Yeah. >> Uh

[1:14:34] electric motorcycles. >> Mhm.

[1:14:37] » But is there anything in the bylaw on how we treat those?

[1:14:40] » They are in the ones I've got in our bylaw is 50

[1:14:44] km/h. >> So you're checking like the e-bikes?

[1:14:47] » Yeah. Yeah, we have a bylaw that fits that.

[1:14:50] » under the Traffic Act. >> Okay.

[1:14:52] » Because all of our our road way is so they're enforceable under the Traffic

[1:14:55] Act. We don't have anything in our bylaws so we're not allowed to regulate

[1:14:59] anything like that. So, something like that.

[1:15:01] » Okay. >> And

[1:15:05] I can I can bring it to I'll I'll send I'll send the information.

[1:15:09] » Yeah. >> Yeah, they and they and again the folks

[1:15:11] that are using them need to be very careful because it's the same thing as

[1:15:14] the the same thing as the golf carts driving those around town.

[1:15:17] » Yeah, and they they don't make a sound. >> No.

[1:15:21] » Like Yeah, and they go just yeah.

[1:15:25] » Yeah. >> And I I

[1:15:27] I do believe I do believe I haven't haven't seen anything official but I do

[1:15:31] believe all of that but all of that small vehicle

[1:15:34] stuff is being reviewed because of the e-bikes and all that now because there

[1:15:39] are some regular bicycles battery powered by

[1:15:43] bicycles that can be difficult to >> Yeah.

[1:15:46] » Yeah, so. >> There's one goes by my house every

[1:15:48] morning and it's not plated I don't think and at

[1:15:52] least he's wearing a helmet and >> Right. Young kid.

[1:15:55] » Which is a which is a choice when you're over 18.

[1:15:58] » Yeah, he doesn't look that old but >> I I believe that I believe that that's

[1:16:02] currently being reviewed but yes, we don't have anything in our bylaws but it

[1:16:05] is covered under the Traffic Act and they're not allowed.

[1:16:07] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[1:16:09] » Yeah, like the the rich governments really doing a big

[1:16:13] review on that. >> Okay.

[1:16:15] » Yeah, I figured I I it's and our information is quite

[1:16:19] » [clears throat] >> the provincial information is quite old.

[1:16:20] I've got a whole file on it. I'll send you out the the overview of what's

[1:16:24] covered and what's not. Okay, I'll send it to the councilors tomorrow.

[1:16:27] » Thank you. >> Yeah, just there's been lots of lots of

[1:16:29] commenting on that. That's That's why several years ago we had it included in

[1:16:36] our bylaw. Council had made a motion to allow golf carts to drive around town

[1:16:41] and it was against the traffic guy. >> The provincial traffic guy. So, we

[1:16:44] actually had to recall >> Had to recall by-law and rewrite it. So,

[1:16:49] uh we tried to accommodate it, but you cannot

[1:16:52] It's very interesting. You cannot do anything more or less than a provincial.

[1:16:58] So, you can in some cases put on more

[1:17:02] stipulations, but when they draw that line, your

[1:17:05] subjects can't do less. Does that make sense? You know,

[1:17:07] » Yeah, like >> Okay.

[1:17:09] So, if the province says that [clears throat] the roads

[1:17:12] the minimum they can be is 30 km/h, you can't go like 20.

[1:17:17] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[1:17:19] » Or if No, sorry. If they say the minimum is 30, you can't put it up to 40.

[1:17:22] » Yeah, you can't increase that. >> But you can go down to 20. So, you can't

[1:17:27] If they say a golf cart's not allowed on a public roadway, you can't say it's

[1:17:31] allowed on our streets. >> Mhm. Mhm.

[1:17:34] » So, I'm kind of seeing that. >> That's fair.

[1:17:36] » Yeah, it's cuz there's there's lots of stuff

[1:17:38] going through and and if you I'm not sure if you get that that email from AM,

[1:17:43] but there's always usually a bit in there about what's going on provincially

[1:17:47] with some of that, too. Kind of read through that and if there's

[1:17:51] something that, you know, tweaks your imagination or question on,

[1:17:55] if you do. >> Yeah, if you do have a complaint or

[1:17:58] somebody has talked to you about that, bikes and those uh call would be to your

[1:18:03] RCMP. >> Okay.

[1:18:05] » And the other thing I think that the public

[1:18:07] doesn't understand either is that you have the ability cuz 99% of people have

[1:18:12] a cell phone >> Yeah.

[1:18:13] » to take a picture of their license plate and lay a complaint against that person,

[1:18:19] even though you might not know who they are, and but you have to file a report.

[1:18:23] » Mhm. >> But it's easier to go on this and go

[1:18:26] like this on Facebook, send, and then you're think you're anonymous to a

[1:18:31] degree, but you're not. But But again, you know, if you are offended by

[1:18:35] somebody speeding or or breaking the what you believe is the rules.

[1:18:40] Go get get their license. >> Yeah.

[1:18:42] » Go ahead and file a complaint though. You can't just

[1:18:46] » Mhm. >> complain.

[1:18:47] » complain >> Well, you can complain. I mean, that's

[1:18:49] what 99% of people do, but but but again, you know, if you really want to

[1:18:53] do something, you know, put put your name behind it and write a

[1:18:57] And that's what this one person's doing on that speeding on on

[1:19:02] on Elizabeth or Connemara. And you know, they're going to review it, but again,

[1:19:07] you know, it's and they talk about it being in a in a

[1:19:11] playground zone. Uh we don't have a playground zone.

[1:19:15] Like I mean, a school zone I should say. We only have playground zones. We don't

[1:19:18] have any school zones in town of Boca. So, you know, uh

[1:19:22] you know, some people don't get all their facts right.

[1:19:25] You know, what's going on. So >> I have witnessed

[1:19:29] radar in the last week. >> And and and again, sometimes that's what

[1:19:33] it takes is is a complaint, but that person was willing to put their name to

[1:19:36] it instead of just going out there and and

[1:19:40] you know, >> So, the answer to the long answer to the

[1:19:44] question is anything inside the traffic act got to be our responsibility

[1:19:48] within our bylaws. Anything on the public roadways falls under the traffic

[1:19:52] act. >> Okay.

[1:19:53] » Perfect. >> Okay, anything else for Kim?

[1:19:57] If not, somebody wish to move the management or administration.

[1:20:00] Judy did. >> I'll back you.

[1:20:02] » Thank you. >> Any discussion on Judy's motion?

[1:20:06] Hearing none, I'll call question. In favor? Opposed?

[1:20:09] It's carried. Okay, we'll move on. Dwayne Hill adjourns us

[1:20:13] 8:19. Thank you very much, Dwayne.

[1:20:16] » You're very welcome.

[1:20:20] » [laughter] >> Yeah, all in favor?

[1:20:22] » Yeah. >> Opposed? Seeing none, we're adjourned

[1:20:25] officially. Adjourned. Thank you very much, everybody.

[1:20:28] And again, for the meeting for the county, you know, come with your

[1:20:31] thoughts, philosophies, thinking

REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCIL - 27 Jul 2026

Transcript