[3:06] board workshop. But

[3:09] um thank you all for coming. Uh we got

[3:12] two agenda items tonight for this. Up

[3:14] first,

[3:20] Michael. Uh let you take it away. Sounds

[3:24] good. Uh good evening, guys. Um I'm

[3:26] Michael. Um the other intern Alana

[3:28] couldn't be here with us tonight

[3:29] unfortunately. So I'll be presenting on

[3:31] both of our behalfs. Um and just we

[3:34] wanted to start out with like a little

[3:35] bit of about us. So I'm going to RPI in

[3:37] the fall which is um for architecture.

[3:40] And um biggest reason why I was

[3:41] interested in this program specifically

[3:43] was because of um the built and envir um

[3:46] the built environment and the municipal management contain skills that

[3:50] are pretty relevant to architecture. I

[3:52] feel like and I know the town works with

[3:54] architects and people in that kind of a

[3:56] general space. So I think seeing it from

[3:58] all sides and not just specifically

[4:00] architecture was a really important

[4:01] thing for me to uh glean some um

[4:04] information on and I really definitely

[4:06] did that in um this internship. Um and I

[4:08] feel like the uh built environment and

[4:10] the complexities of working with it on a

[4:11] m municipal level um are extremely

[4:13] important to um any major um in like

[4:16] sustainability or um community

[4:18] development. And on Alana, she's going

[4:20] to um Miami University uh to study uh

[4:23] geography and environmental science and

[4:25] she has a um minor in GIS. And she was

[4:28] really drawn to the internship because

[4:30] of the uh GI

[4:32] because she wants to um uh gain

[4:35] experience in the public sector and um

[4:37] work in the uh the field which is really

[4:39] exciting for both of us. Um and then

[4:42] just like a brief overview of what this

[4:45] summer we over 250 out inspections uh

[4:48] which uh included filling out reports

[4:50] and documentation for each specific out.

[4:53] Um we performed some swimp inspe site

[4:55] inspections. We did sewer storm lateral

[4:57] inspections, downspout inspections, and

[4:59] then we did a site and conditions

[5:01] assessment of um properties on like the

[5:03] waterfront sandbar area of Lake Road and

[5:06] then created a um executive summary

[5:07] report of our findings there. And then

[5:10] we also worked a little bit on some CSC

[5:12] climate smart community uh research. Um

[5:15] and then we um performed some research

[5:16] into the residential um park districts

[5:19] and license agreements um and created

[5:21] someformational materials for them for

[5:23] the uh residents. Um and then Alana also

[5:25] worked on a mobile uh vendor permit and

[5:28] conservation board fly.

[5:31] Um just to start off uh for our alfall

[5:33] inspection project. This kind of spanned

[5:34] the entire summer. And um for those of

[5:37] you who don't know, the outfalls are um

[5:39] points where um from the storm drains

[5:41] from the streets in the neighborhoods

[5:43] drain into uh streams that then connect

[5:45] to uh places like the Bay or Lake

[5:47] Ontario. Um and what we're looking for

[5:50] during these inspections is like basics

[5:52] um uh conditions assessment like cracks

[5:54] or rusting or anything that's could go

[5:56] wrong with the flow of water through

[5:58] them. and we took pictures of each uh

[6:01] one that we did and looked at as builts

[6:04] for the easements of where the town uh

[6:05] where we could get to access to them

[6:07] through people's uh yards and and stuff

[6:09] like that. Um we uh utilize GIS and

[6:12] survey 123 for our inspections. And as

[6:14] you can see like from this map, it's a

[6:16] little confusing. It's kind of um a lot

[6:18] going on. So we tried to neaten it up a

[6:21] little

[6:25] and

[6:27] an example of like a neighbor

[6:29] kind of the same after

[6:32] kind of just like narrowed uh where the

[6:34] outfalls are, made it more specific for

[6:35] uh town function.

[6:38] Um we were uh swiping which are um we

[6:42] both received our uh 4-hour erosion and

[6:44] sediment control training um and then we

[6:47] just kind of went through the town um

[6:50] and inance with the storm water and

[6:53] sediment control practices. So we were

[6:54] looking at street cleanliness, silt

[6:56] socks, silt fences, uh uh the plant

[7:00] cover of each of these uh plots and the

[7:03] concrete wash out areas. And then kind

[7:06] of similar to that, we did the lateral

[7:08] and downspout inspections, which um go

[7:09] to each specific lots. And these are all

[7:12] both using survey 123, which is kind of

[7:14] new for the town at this scale where we

[7:16] uh kind of streamline the process of

[7:18] inspections a little bit. So that was

[7:21] and it was pretty help. So, uh, laterals

[7:24] are just for, um, connecting to the, um,

[7:27] the storm and sewer mains. And then, uh,

[7:29] for the downspouts are just on the sides

[7:32] of the, uh, built on the sides of the

[7:34] houses that, uh, for our, for water, uh,

[7:37] rainfall.

[7:38] And then we also use survey 123 again

[7:41] for the conditions assessments of Lake

[7:43] Road. So we took photos and did basic uh

[7:45] conditions um analysis through the

[7:47] questions that we had already

[7:48] established in a form. But using survey

[7:51] 123 really streamline the process for us

[7:54] and uh we found out where site

[7:56] conditions were good, site conditions

[7:57] were bad or poor and this will help uh

[8:01] in the assessors or um code enforcement

[8:03] to see what where there code violations

[8:05] or whether there's room for improvement

[8:06] on Lake Road. Um and then we of this we

[8:10] expected 61 properties along the road

[8:12] and then produced an executive summary

[8:14] report for the town to use in the

[8:16] future.

[8:18] And then for climate smart communities

[8:20] research, we kind of piggybacked on what

[8:22] the town has already been doing for that

[8:24] and kind of addressed some of the town

[8:25] board uh previous concerns or um and

[8:29] just kind of helped the town figure out

[8:30] what to go going forward with this. So,

[8:34] we figured out that the town had already

[8:36] completed like 82 to 239 um points

[8:39] towards the CSSE registration and

[8:41] certification which we think were on

[8:43] like the higher end of that. So, we only

[8:45] need 120 to be bronze certified or

[8:47] registered and um we kind of also went

[8:50] through some of the town board concerns.

[8:52] So, the cost for being involved because

[8:53] Webster has already completed most of

[8:55] the necessary actions to be involved. It

[8:57] would require pretty much no extra cost

[8:59] for us to register at least. Um and then

[9:02] that for the extra burden on the town

[9:03] staff, we've kind of queried other uh

[9:06] municipalities in the area that are

[9:08] either registered or certified and most

[9:11] of them have kind of taken the

[9:13] responsibility of the task force for the

[9:14] cse and given it to pre-existing boards

[9:18] like a conservation board or any other

[9:20] board they have. And we found that a lot

[9:22] of the municipality great success with

[9:24] that. So there wasn't really necessarily

[9:26] anything any for a lot of grant

[9:28] applications and a lot of the grants um

[9:31] were looking for things that made

[9:32] Webster stand out and one of the things

[9:34] that they looked at was cse

[9:36] certification or um

[9:39] boost our um eligibility for grants in

[9:41] the future.

[9:43] Um and then next I kind of uh went

[9:45] through um because we had some struggles

[9:48] with uh uh people having like pretty

[9:50] basic questions about park districts or

[9:52] license agreements. So, we thought it

[9:53] would be helpful for the town to create

[9:55] some brochures or someformational flyers

[9:57] for the residents to kind of go through

[9:59] and show uh what these things are

[10:03] because some most of the residents don't

[10:05] know they either live in a park

[10:06] district, they don't know about like the

[10:07] maintenance information of how that is

[10:09] and like the kind of tax with that. So,

[10:12] we thought these were both really

[10:13] helpfulformational um materials for

[10:15] residents to kind of gain clarity on

[10:18] that.

[10:19] And then Alana worked a lot on the

[10:21] mobile vendor permit, which we already

[10:23] have kind of a system for that. But this

[10:25] was targeted more towards mobile vendors

[10:27] who want to like pop up on uh town owned

[10:31] land, public land, and really streamline

[10:34] the process for uh and set a precedent

[10:36] for going going forward, what we could

[10:38] do with uh mobile vendors in the future

[10:40] that are separate from events or big

[10:42] widescale food truck um like events. And

[10:46] then she also worked on a conservation

[10:48] board flyer because a lot of town

[10:49] residents may not know that we have a

[10:51] conservation board or any other boards

[10:53] for that matter. So we thought that

[10:54] creating like a basicformational flyer

[10:57] would be really helpful there. And then

[10:59] at the end we just kind of want to go

[11:01] through our highlights. So Alana's

[11:02] highlights. She said that she gained a

[11:03] much better understanding of how a

[11:05] municipality runs and the relationship

[11:07] between the town and residents. and she

[11:09] thought it was really interesting to see

[11:10] all the different departments that work

[11:12] um together in the town and kind of go

[11:14] through the day-to-day practices of

[11:16] municipalities. Um we utilize a lot of

[11:18] survey 123 which is really cool and

[11:21] specifically for her cuz she's going

[11:22] into GIS field. She thought that was

[11:24] really a like helpful uh thing to glean

[11:27] some insight on. And then her uh for

[11:31] professional communications use

[11:32] formatting the executive summary report

[11:34] for Lake Road as an example. We did a

[11:36] lot of those kinds of you know computer

[11:38] work in the office which is really

[11:40] information like really helpful for any

[11:42] other jobs that we have going forward.

[11:44] Her favorite project was conducting

[11:46] research on the climate smart

[11:47] communities program and she also loved

[11:50] doing the outfalls. She liked looking at

[11:52] the different um places in Webster cuz

[11:54] she's not from she's from Victor so she

[11:56] really liked seeing the you know inner

[11:58] workings of a town that uh she had a lot

[12:01] didn't have a lot of information on. And

[12:03] then for me, I really really appreciated

[12:05] the different complexities of municipal

[12:07] infrastructure. For example, we went out

[12:08] with Keith one day to like go and see

[12:10] the pave the repaving of Bay Road. And

[12:13] you don't realize a lot of people don't

[12:14] realize how much goes into that uh into

[12:17] the coordination of those like projects.

[12:19] And that's a pretty small project on the

[12:21] scale of the town. So seeing how much

[12:24] comp like how complex all these inner

[12:26] workings are was really really

[12:27] fascinating and also got a holistic view

[12:30] of um coordinating with different

[12:32] departments and staff through our time

[12:33] here. So we didn't just you know seclude

[12:36] ourselves the engineering department

[12:37] went into planning and zoning and a

[12:39] little bit of code enforcement and all the other uh staff members that work

[12:42] here and then also just helped us uh you

[12:45] know basic office dynamics of you know

[12:48] working in the office with people work

[12:50] hours uh this is my first 40hour like

[12:53] workday that I've done so definitely

[12:55] like a wakeup call there and then you

[12:57] know [laughter]

[12:59] >> workforce skills like you

[13:02] save that information.

[13:03] >> It doesn't stop. It only gets worse.

[13:06] >> Really? Yeah.

[13:07] >> Yeah. But no, interesting. It was

[13:09] really, really fun. And um my key

[13:12] skills, I got introduced to GIS cuz

[13:14] unlike Alana, I didn't really have a lot

[13:15] of information in that. So, working with

[13:17] Brad was really, really cool to get a

[13:19] little bit of um like dip my toe in the

[13:21] water there. And then we just kind of

[13:23] improved our skills that we had like in

[13:25] Excel and research and compiling data,

[13:28] which I didn't really have a lot of

[13:30] experience with Excel either. So having

[13:31] that um was really really important too.

[13:34] And then my favorite project was the

[13:36] outfall project cuz I felt like it

[13:37] spanned the whole summer and then also

[13:40] kind of showed an actual uh thing that

[13:42] we could prevent like present to the

[13:44] town that would help you know in the

[13:46] future with GIS uh researcher formatting

[13:49] and survey 123 was a really big help

[13:50] with that. And then I really really

[13:52] liked application to like Webster

[13:54] specific um town projects like the seven

[13:57] brewer anything like that cuz I'm from

[13:59] Webster. So seeing the inner workings of

[14:01] the town specific stuff was really interesting and really really eye

[14:05] opening to me cuz I didn't really

[14:06] realize any of this was happening

[14:07] before. Um and then attending the town

[14:10] board meetings was really really

[14:11] rewarding because we got to see what we

[14:12] worked on in the office or heard about

[14:13] in the office come to fruition or um

[14:16] come to be presented to you guys which

[14:18] is really really cool. Um yeah and I

[14:21] think if there's any questions and I

[14:23] think then I'm I'm done. Thank you guys

[14:25] so much for the opportunity. Thank

[14:26] everyone here for the opportunity for

[14:28] this summer. It was a really really

[14:30] great experience.

[14:31] >> Thank you.

[14:32] >> I don't really have any questions. I

[14:33] just want to thank you for all your

[14:35] efforts and we've been um utilizing

[14:39] interns for a few years and um while you

[14:42] may benefit from it, I know the town

[14:44] benefits a great deal. um like with your uh your outfalls and updating the GIS system is

[14:55] a tremendous feat. So, you should be

[14:59] very proud of what you've done. Um both

[15:02] of you to

[15:05] >> Hey, covered a lot of ground.

[15:08] >> And I live right I grew up right down

[15:09] the street from Michael Drive.

[15:13] Yeah, I know a lot of the staff is

[15:14] already going through intern withdrawal.

[15:16] So obviously you guys made a very big

[15:18] impact

[15:19] >> on the out outfall project. What was

[15:21] your most interesting executive summary

[15:23] from that?

[15:24] >> Uh we didn't we kind of just compiled an

[15:26] Excel spreadsheet of all. Um so we have

[15:29] the list of the uh where they are in

[15:31] terms in terms of the neighborhoods and

[15:33] then this basic conditions assessment of

[15:35] those and we have to do those every 5

[15:36] years. So there wasn't really like big

[15:38] executive summary or like um like

[15:40] conclusion from that. It was just

[15:42] something that we had like routinely had

[15:43] to do which was it was cool.

[15:45] >> Did you find any issues? Were there any

[15:47] major defects or things that needed to

[15:50] be addressed in

[15:51] >> Yeah, it looked like one of the maps

[15:52] there was a lot of like discrepancies

[15:54] between

[15:54] >> Yes or no before. [laughter]

[15:58] >> For the record, the answer is no. And

[15:59] moving on,

[16:01] >> we didn't see a lot of issues just like,

[16:03] you know, some rusting in some areas and

[16:05] some outfalls, but nothing major that

[16:07] would have impacted the water flow of

[16:09] anything. So yeah, it was generally

[16:12] pretty good.

[16:12] >> What can make this intern experience

[16:14] better next year for future people?

[16:17] >> That's a good question. Um I don't know.

[16:19] I think that um from previous years

[16:22] we've heard that the interns kind

[16:27] is good, but I also really important to

[16:29] kind of get the different departments.

[16:32] So, we kind of branched out a little bit

[16:33] this year, but I also think that going

[16:35] with like, you know, code enforcement or

[16:37] going to see uh site inspections would

[16:39] be really really um cool and interesting

[16:41] to see. So, I don't know kind of just

[16:42] broadening the like continually

[16:45] broadening the uh scope of what the

[16:46] interns do,

[16:48] the things that they uh activities that

[16:51] they perform would be really really

[16:52] interesting. So, you guys are doing a

[16:54] great job.

[16:55] >> Would it be interesting for your

[16:56] internship perspective to like see other

[16:58] departments like highway or sewer or

[17:00] police? Would that understand the scope

[17:04] of the municipality for your engineering

[17:06] work?

[17:06] >> I think so. Yeah. I think um having

[17:08] given the uh interns more opportunities

[17:10] there would be really really cool and um

[17:12] we did kind of go to the highway

[17:13] department and the sewer department

[17:15] toward those and we had some like you

[17:17] know interactions with Pat and the guys

[17:19] over at the sewer department. So I think

[17:21] you like continually broadening that and

[17:23] getting more experience that way was

[17:25] really really good. But other than that,

[17:27] there's really um I can't really think

[17:30] projects and I think that's really helpful.

[17:32] >> Okay. Well, if either of you think of

[17:33] something, please let us know

[17:34] >> so we can always to John's point, keep

[17:36] improving this process, keep making it

[17:37] better.

[17:38] >> Definitely

[17:40] >> because we're old now and you're young.

[17:42] Finance could be another area of having

[17:44] an intern where you can go through

[17:46] because it's like the budget cycle is

[17:48] happening during the summer and that

[17:50] would be a great opportunity to

[17:53] >> work with every department and and get

[17:56] somebody with the

[17:58] >> but that might be a uh an accounting

[18:00] intern as opposed to an engineering one.

[18:02] So you're you're trying to steal you're

[18:04] trying to steal work for my accounting

[18:05] undergrads here essentially, right?

[18:07] >> Well, I think can can you do both? You

[18:09] can always

[18:10] >> We might need to expand the hours per

[18:12] week from 40 to 50 though. [laughter]

[18:16] >> 55 60

[18:18] shaking his head. No, no, no.

[18:22] >> Michael, thank you so much and thank you

[18:24] for presenting tonight. That's not easy

[18:26] to do. Um, and I'm sorry that you were

[18:28] kind of left alone to do it, but working

[18:31] through Thank you so much for what you

[18:33] could.

[18:35] Um, so just it's uh I'm sure it was eye

[18:39] opening for you and I think more younger

[18:42] folks kind of need to get a picture as

[18:44] to how a municipal government works

[18:46] because it's it's different.

[18:48] >> That was great.

[18:49] >> So who who did you report to, by the

[18:51] way?

[18:51] >> Was that who who did the interns report

[18:54] to? Who did we report to? Report.

[18:57] >> Who was your boss?

[18:59] >> Let's see. Um, they were kind of all our

[19:01] bosses. I would say we've reported

[19:02] mostly to uh Mark and Josh,

[19:06] which was really great. They were really

[19:07] great mentors and they really helped

[19:08] through uh the process a lot and um

[19:10] really helped keep us going through the summer. So, really appreciate that

[19:14] for

[19:14] >> Well, that's why I asked the question

[19:15] because I want to make sure that uh the

[19:17] two of you are recognized for keeping

[19:20] these young interns on schedule and

[19:24] making sure that they're doing something

[19:26] that's going to benefit the town's host.

[19:28] Thank you both of you. Also,

[19:29] >> I also want to shout out Erica too and

[19:32] every honestly everyone. There's a lot.

[19:33] There's Brad, Erica, Keith, every

[19:35] everyone was so helpful. So, it wasn't

[19:38] just them, but yeah, it was a pretty it

[19:39] was a pretty big group effort.

[19:41] >> Well, that's fantastic.

[19:42] >> Good to hear. Thank you.

[19:43] >> And good luck going back to school.

[19:45] >> Thank you.

[19:46] >> Yeah.

[19:47] >> Thank you.

[19:49] >> All right. Up next, uh the reason why we

[19:52] started early is uh we are going to be

[19:54] going over the presentation for the

[19:57] state environmental quality review for

[19:59] the Webster Transportation

[20:01] Infrastructure Project. And we want to

[20:02] make sure we have enough time uh to get

[20:05] through this done thoughtfully and

[20:06] purposefully um and do it right. So we

[20:10] have town engineer Keith Mortimer will

[20:12] be presenting and uh to answer questions

[20:16] uh afterwards we have him we have

[20:18] members of Kostich here and Lean Kimber

[20:21] we now Keith before you start because

[20:23] you've got a bunch to go through do you

[20:25] want us to ask as you go or do you want

[20:26] us to wait and ask at the reference?

[20:31] Um,

[20:35] I would say let's ask

[20:38] as we go.

[20:39] >> Okay.

[20:40] >> I think that's the best way to address

[20:42] this.

[20:42] >> Thank you.

[20:43] >> All right. So, uh, tonight um on our

[20:47] agenda is the uh next part of the uh EAF

[20:52] process as part of Seeker. Um, and it's

[20:55] the the fun uh full environmental

[20:58] assessment form part two. Um, this is

[21:01] going to be where, [clears throat] um,

[21:03] as a lead agency, you're going to sort

[21:05] of take an inventory of all the

[21:07] potential resources that could be

[21:09] affected by the, uh, project, which is

[21:12] the Webster transportation

[21:13] infrastructure project. And then at the

[21:15] end of this, um, the lead agency will

[21:17] have the ability to, um, identify the

[21:21] relevant environmental areas that may,

[21:24] um, or may not be impacted by this

[21:26] project. and we'll walk through through

[21:29] about 20 sections here very um

[21:32] expeditiously. Um there are probably six

[21:35] um specifically that we want to focus

[21:37] on. Uh and uh we'll get started, but

[21:41] just to kind of get your head around

[21:43] where we're at and take an opportunity

[21:45] to present this project to both uh the

[21:47] town board again as well as the

[21:49] community.

[21:51] So just this is the Webster

[21:53] transportation infrastructure project.

[21:55] Um, it was a project that was born out

[21:58] of a a grant that we received of about

[22:01] $9.3 million through Fast New York. It

[22:05] does include projects that are both in

[22:06] the um town of Webster and the village

[22:10] as well. Um, the town components are

[22:13] actually the Chyota Drive extension and

[22:16] the Bolter Industrial Parkway um

[22:19] extension. There is also a multimotal

[22:22] trail system um that will be going along

[22:25] a portion of Phillips Road. Uh and then

[22:28] there is some streets that are under the

[22:32] jurisdiction of Xerox which will um be

[22:34] ultimately dedicated uh to the village

[22:37] after this uh project is completed. At

[22:40] the very bottom of uh the slide here, we

[22:43] [clears throat] do show a very very high

[22:45] level um project schedule. we are

[22:48] squarely in the middle um towards the or

[22:51] even maybe a little bit past the middle

[22:53] of um detailed design. Um hence why

[22:57] we're where we're at tonight with this

[22:59] part two. Um we are intending to take

[23:03] design um near the end of this year. Uh

[23:07] we hope to start bidding this project

[23:11] again in the last month or um month and

[23:14] a half of the year. So somewhere around

[23:16] December um with an ideal construction

[23:19] start of um in early 2027.

[23:26] Right.

[23:32] All right. So let's So in your packet um

[23:36] earlier

[23:38] there were two pieces of information.

[23:42] One is called the full environmental

[23:44] assessment form. See if I can make this

[23:47] a little bigger.

[23:47] [cough and clears throat]

[23:52] And the other is actually what we call

[23:55] um some supplemental responses to help

[23:57] guide um why we answered the things the

[24:00] way the way maybe we did. Again, this is

[24:03] draft um in its nature, but it has been

[24:07] pre-filled out based on the um both the

[24:11] village, the town as well as our design

[24:14] team's um input and assessments. So, to

[24:17] help guide through this process, like I

[24:19] said, there are 20 categories. Um 14 of

[24:24] these categories have um actually very

[24:27] little or no um aspect to the project

[24:31] itself. and six of them may have um some component of impact that we want to

[24:38] talk to. So the first is impact to land

[24:41] use. I think [clears throat] this is

[24:43] somewhat um to be understood that we are

[24:47] um extending some roadway sections.

[24:49] We're actually doing some project work

[24:51] um both in the town and the village. It

[24:53] will have some impacts. Specifically um

[24:56] they do call out here um uh does the

[25:00] proposed action um may involve

[25:03] construction of land where depth of

[25:05] water table is less than 3 ft. We um

[25:08] conducted a thorough um evaluation of

[25:11] the water table and there was only one

[25:15] um location near Salt Road where we felt

[25:18] we may have it was deemed wet. Um but

[25:23] that was at a depth of three feet. Um

[25:26] and we do not believe that we will be

[25:30] getting anywhere close to that

[25:31] particularly in that area of of the

[25:34] project which is over which will be the

[25:35] Bolter Industrial Parkway project. We

[25:38] will keep all of our work above above

[25:41] that that three-foot um or that water

[25:43] table location. So you know there we're

[25:46] showing that we're going to have no or

[25:47] small um impact

[25:50] The other one that kind of led us to a

[25:52] yes on this situation is the proposed

[25:54] action which is C proposed action may

[25:57] involve the construction of land where

[25:59] bedrock is exposed or generally within 5

[26:02] ft of the existing ground. Again from

[26:04] our test pits in our our core our test

[26:07] pits we did identify um a couple of

[26:10] locations where the bedrock is somewhere

[26:12] in the 4ft range. Um again, this is over

[26:15] near the Bolter Industrial um parkway

[26:18] component. Um and our design will work

[26:22] to uh be above all of that and not

[26:24] impact that bedrock. So again, um no or

[26:28] small impact there. And then finally the the third thing that kind of maybe

[26:34] um lent us to saying yes to this was uh

[26:38] e the proposed action may involve

[26:40] construction that continues for more

[26:42] than one year or multiple phases. So we

[26:45] do envision that this will be a very

[26:47] expedited project. We are hoping that um

[26:51] actually we will bid all of these

[26:54] components of at the same time. We

[26:57] envision that they'll overlap. We think

[26:59] we can get our best pricing that way as

[27:01] well. So, um do we think that it could

[27:05] extend out beyond a one-year time frame?

[27:08] Absolutely. Um we do have a very um specific um agenda to get

[27:16] Bolter extension done within the year

[27:21] that we bid the project, but everything

[27:23] else should then follow shortly

[27:24] thereafter. So,

[27:26] >> a quick question on Bolter.

[27:29] >> What did your core samples reveal on uh

[27:31] on Bolter Industrial Parkway? Because

[27:34] >> I think it goes through next to the

[27:37] stadium and then extends out.

[27:39] >> Um

[27:40] >> I'm not sure that that that that roadway

[27:43] was when it was originally constructed

[27:45] was constructed

[27:47] um to New York State specifications.

[27:50] Right. Right.

[27:50] >> So, I imagine if that's correct that,

[27:54] you know, you're going to have to

[27:56] reconstruct that. And I don't know, you

[27:58] can help me out with this if that was in

[28:01] the original plan to do the

[28:02] reconstruction. If not, have you

[28:06] surmised what the additional cost is

[28:07] going to be for that?

[28:08] >> Yep. So, we we did um as part of this

[28:12] project, we did take some cores on that

[28:15] road. So we do know and we know that

[28:17] it's not up to a um a standard that with

[28:21] that will

[28:23] the long run

[28:25] service the that will that will

[28:29] it was not included in the in the grant

[28:32] application. So it's not a cost that and

[28:34] nor is it a design component of this

[28:36] particular project.

[28:38] We have um we are working with right now

[28:42] to at least

[28:45] identify a a long-term

[28:48] budgeted cost estimate. We don't have

[28:50] that quite established yet. Um but as

[28:54] part of um when we're working out our

[28:56] capital projects here in the town, that

[28:58] will be something that will roll up into

[29:00] that um into that cap that planning

[29:04] process. But I would expect that we'll

[29:06] have to address this within

[29:08] say two to three years of the opening of

[29:11] the extension.

[29:13] >> Okay. So just so I'm understanding of

[29:15] this. So if

[29:18] additional costs are going to have to be

[29:21] made to bring that up to you know New

[29:24] York State DOT code or standard that the town has to bear the cost on that or

[29:31] is it or is it

[29:32] >> I would think that either the town or we

[29:34] will look for other funding

[29:36] opportunities through grants. I worked

[29:38] I've already reached out to Maria about

[29:39] this as well to start looking for other

[29:41] opportunities there.

[29:43] >> Okay. Thanks. Sorry to interrupt.

[29:45] >> No.

[29:45] >> Yeah. I mean, you know, John, my

[29:46] understanding is there's some county

[29:48] road money that could be possibly going

[29:50] after, but now that Bolta Road is not

[29:52] going to be a county road,

[29:53] >> correct?

[29:53] >> So then we have to look for other

[29:54] things. So Keith, is there a a new

[29:57] expanding?

[29:57] >> Well, I mean, is this

[30:00] >> just other other costs that are going to

[30:01] come under the town's burden to bear? Is

[30:03] this the first of

[30:04] >> will be one of many?

[30:05] >> That's what I wanted to know. Thank you.

[30:07] One of many. Yep. I'm

[30:08] >> good answer.

[30:09] >> Uh uh Paul has already he's on me

[30:12] already. I've already missed my homework

[30:14] due date with getting him his capital

[30:16] budgeting

[30:18] information. I am but we are working on

[30:20] that. So yeah, there'll be um impact to

[30:22] geolog geological features and this is

[30:26] um

[30:28] we'll just read result in a modification

[30:31] or destruction or inhibit the access to

[30:34] a unique or unusual land form or um on

[30:37] the site. They have some examples there

[30:40] of cliffs, dunes, minerals, fossils and

[30:42] caves. We do not have any of that here

[30:44] on our project.

[30:47] Um impact to surface surface water. All

[30:50] right. So, this is a fun one, right? Um,

[30:53] we are, um,

[30:56] our primary impact, if you will, is that

[30:59] we do need to put in a culvert. Um, this

[31:02] is a culvert, um, over near Chyota and

[31:06] Panama. Um, and it is part of the

[31:08] extension of the Pan uh, of the Chyota

[31:11] Drive. So, it is a we do have a culver

[31:14] going in. Um and when we evaluate that

[31:19] it's

[31:21] um construction the design and its

[31:23] construction we'll we are doing

[31:25] everything um necessary toize the

[31:29] impacts whether it's um sedimentation

[31:33] um you know flow um you know what other

[31:38] um issues that we might encounter when

[31:41] it comes time to to install that

[31:43] culvert. So we recognize that we do

[31:47] impact it naturally by putting in this

[31:49] culvert, but we also understand um what

[31:52] we need to do to um mitigate those

[31:56] impacts and those impacts will be you

[31:58] know well or that mitigation will be

[31:59] well stipulated to whatever contractor

[32:02] that that gets this project as well. So

[32:04] when we go down through all of these

[32:06] items here, we then start showing up as

[32:09] them being either um minimal or no

[32:11] impact to the uh the impact to the

[32:13] surface water. Interesting enough, the

[32:16] stream that we are going to be um having

[32:20] to uh it actually will get rediverted

[32:23] slightly and then pl brought back into

[32:25] its new alignment. Um it is a type

[32:29] C stream. Um, and it is not a stream

[32:33] that is regulated by the DEEC. So, we

[32:36] we're we're clear of that. The culvert

[32:38] itself and the work associated with it

[32:42] is um something that the Army Corps of

[32:44] Engineers has purview over. We have our

[32:47] permit and design materials into them

[32:49] right now and we're just waiting for

[32:50] their feedback on that permit and we'll

[32:53] take that into account um as part of our

[32:56] uh follow-up design work.

[33:02] Okay. Impact to groundwater. Um we don't

[33:05] envision getting into any groundwater

[33:07] issues out there. Uh we won't and this

[33:10] would be any supply wells. Uh anything

[33:13] like that. We don't have any um

[33:15] potential for that on this project.

[33:18] Impact of flooding. We're not in a flood

[33:20] plane. We don't envision um impacting

[33:24] any kinds of of or or exacerbating any

[33:27] kind of flooding issues. Um I will

[33:30] indicate that we are this culvert in

[33:32] particular that's kind of drives a lot

[33:35] of this is um being designed

[33:38] um over capacity slightly so that we are

[33:41] taking into so we are taking into

[33:43] account sort of a more worst case

[33:45] scenario.

[33:49] All right impact to air and climate.

[33:52] Again this is a no. Um there's nothing

[33:55] about this project that should

[33:57] substantially increase um air pollution

[34:00] um as part of of of the general use of

[34:04] what we're doing out there.

[34:10] Impacts to plants and animals. Okay. So

[34:13] this is a

[34:16] this is also kind of what we call in

[34:18] your supplemental material on pages

[34:20] three or four at the bottom a proposed

[34:21] action as a results of loss of flora or

[34:24] fauna. We did say yes because just in

[34:28] natural we are extending two roadway

[34:31] systems through what is now um um vacant

[34:35] land if you will. But as part of that um

[34:42] we indicated under part one um is that

[34:45] there is no identified there are no

[34:47] species of rare or threatened or

[34:50] endangered of any type in this area

[34:53] um and there was no special concern or

[34:56] conservation need within the project

[34:58] limits. So in that we recognize that we

[35:02] are you know we are going through some vacant land but we have not there

[35:07] are no identified endangered species or

[35:09] anything that we would be impacting or

[35:11] impacting their habitat.

[35:13] >> Quick question.

[35:14] >> Yep.

[35:17] » How do you make that determination?

[35:20] Someone do site visits um gathering

[35:23] information

[35:23] >> that is yeah it's established

[35:25] information through the DEEC and we do

[35:27] that. We go through essentially that's

[35:29] the that's your first step is to walk

[35:32] through go to the DC and and look for

[35:34] those habit they have that all

[35:36] categorized and listed out for us.

[35:37] >> Okay. I was just curious.

[35:38] >> Yeah. Yep. Yep. Um I do stipulate though

[35:43] we are as part of the Chyota Drive

[35:45] project.

[35:47] Um there is going to be um a relocation

[35:51] of the trail that leads from roughly the

[35:55] rec center to 250 which then turns into

[35:58] the bird song trail. We have also been

[36:01] working with the friends of Webster

[36:03] Trail on that realignment um and been

[36:07] taking in their input and feedback and I think we're in a good spot. They've

[36:11] we've met a couple of time with them,

[36:13] couple times with them, showed them a

[36:15] couple different alignments. We've got

[36:16] some agreement to that. So, um and and

[36:19] as part of our project, we've we've

[36:22] indicated that, you know, they have a

[36:24] character that they'd like to maintain

[36:26] along that trail system. So, we're going

[36:29] to work with them as well as probably um

[36:33] add some dollars into our an allowance

[36:36] into our our construction costs to

[36:40] um identify

[36:42] reveation where necessary to help that

[36:45] trail make that new trail system reflect

[36:47] the current character of the existing

[36:49] trail system.

[36:50] >> Thank you. That's important.

[36:51] >> And and with that, are are the friends

[36:54] doing the new trail or is the

[36:55] construction project creating that

[36:57] trail? That's part of our project. So,

[36:59] the construction project will um the

[37:02] this project will be responsible for the

[37:06] relocation of that trail system.

[37:08] >> Perfect. Thank you.

[37:09] >> Yep.

[37:12] All right. Moving on here.

[37:16] Uh impacts to aggro uh agricultural

[37:19] resources. Um we've got none of that

[37:22] here in the area of this project.

[37:26] um in impact to aesthetic resources. So

[37:29] again, land use for the proposed action

[37:32] obviously different from or what is in

[37:34] the shape or contrast to the current

[37:36] land use patterns between the proposed

[37:39] project and the scenic or aesthetic

[37:41] resource. Again, we felt this is a we're

[37:45] not having an impact on this. It's we

[37:47] are working within an urban environment.

[37:49] Um what we're doing is not out of

[37:51] characteristic for what you would expect

[37:53] to see in this environment. And as I

[37:54] mentioned in particular, the the trail

[37:57] system is is probably one of the key

[37:58] components that we want to make sure

[38:00] we're uh maintaining character and form

[38:03] and and function for

[38:09] uh impact on historical and

[38:11] archeological resources. Again, this is

[38:13] a no. Um and this is this comes straight

[38:15] out of um the New York State uh the

[38:20] Shipo if I knew what ship there it is.

[38:22] the state historic preservation office.

[38:25] They sent us a letter uh confirming that

[38:27] we are not um impacting any historical

[38:30] or archeological resources.

[38:34] Um impact on open space and recreation.

[38:37] Again, no. Um all of this is uh

[38:42] occurring within an urban environment.

[38:44] Um, again, probably the only the only

[38:47] big impact to this was going to be the

[38:49] trail. And again, we are that trail

[38:51] system is part of our our project.

[38:54] >> And and Keith, with that for the Bolter

[38:57] Road extension, how much forest and

[39:00] green space is really being

[39:02] removed as part of this?

[39:05] >> So, total between Chyota and Bolter,

[39:10] it's a little over four acres in total.

[39:12] >> Okay. Um the split between that

[39:17] probably

[39:19] three to one. Three being the uh bolter

[39:23] would you say? I'm getting a resounding

[39:26] yes back from the back of the room. So

[39:28] yeah, it's about a one to three. So

[39:30] Chyota is going to um impact about an

[39:33] acre of of land and the bolter extension

[39:36] is about three acres. Okay.

[39:38] >> Plus or minus.

[39:40] >> Yeah. And you know over then the Bolton

[39:42] extension you know as much as we want to

[39:43] preserve what we can it's not

[39:45] necessarily critical

[39:47] >> old growth vegetation.

[39:49] >> Yeah that's open yeah open land it's yeah previous Xerox

[39:56] >> property um

[39:59] >> yeah I I don't think we're

[40:01] >> um you know yeah I understand the

[40:03] preservation of open space and green

[40:05] space. I don't know that that's a

[40:07] >> that's right I agree with you like it's not a

[40:10] This project is very beneficial to

[40:12] Webster for its long-term economic

[40:13] growth

[40:14] >> at the tradeoff of not pristine or huge

[40:18] some huge ecological resource over

[40:20] there,

[40:20] >> right?

[40:20] >> That makes it

[40:21] >> Yep.

[40:22] >> We're always going to face this.

[40:23] >> Yep. Yep. That Yeah. And that's the

[40:25] balancing act.

[40:27] >> Um impacts to critical environmental

[40:31] areas. So, we've uh said no to this. Um,

[40:34] we don't see any of those based on the

[40:36] definitions of of what's being

[40:38] considered a critical environmental area

[40:40] as as being impacted.

[40:43] Um, impact on transportation

[40:47] just by the nature of this project. Yes.

[40:50] Um, but of course what we're planning to

[40:53] do is all to the benefit of the network

[40:55] and the transportation the

[40:57] transportation network. Um there are

[41:00] questions here that discuss um you know

[41:03] we aren't we don't this project starting

[41:06] with a isn't

[41:09] generating new traffic. It's only

[41:12] redistributing and providing other means

[41:14] of access to the area.

[41:17] Um

[41:18] the

[41:20] there a degradation in existing transit

[41:23] access at this point. you know, none of

[41:26] this network seems to have any transit

[41:29] um access at the time. So, that's

[41:30] certainly a a null.

[41:33] Uh proposed action will degrade the

[41:35] existing pedestrian bicycle

[41:36] accommodations. Actually, this project

[41:38] will improve those accommodations. Um

[41:42] this um project has a lot of multimodal

[41:46] um pathways um along much of of the the

[41:50] new infrastructure. So we feel that

[41:53] we're actually you know if this could be

[41:55] if that could have said I mean maybe we

[41:57] could have said yes to that actually

[41:59] because we are improving the uh the

[42:02] accommodations quite significantly as

[42:04] part of this project which was also a

[42:06] driver of the grant. Um proposed action

[42:09] alter the present pattern of movement of

[42:12] people or goods. Well naturally we would

[42:15] expect people to utilize the

[42:17] infrastructure that we put forward. Um

[42:20] certainly for the Bolter uh extension,

[42:23] we absolutely want to encourage that so

[42:26] that we are getting the larger vehicles

[42:28] that are now going to Basket Road um

[42:31] over to the Salt Road and get to the

[42:34] Salt Road interchange with 104, which is

[42:36] a much safer interchange for those

[42:38] larger vehicles to be using.

[42:42] Um impact on energy. We saw no sun

[42:46] nothing coming of this project that

[42:48] would uh change up the energy use in the

[42:51] area.

[42:52] Impact to noise, odor and light. This is

[42:56] the project itself once it's in

[42:58] functioning order won't have an impact

[43:01] but certainly during construction we can

[43:03] expect that there will be um noise, odor

[43:06] and light. Um certainly we will work

[43:09] with the contractor when we get into

[43:11] construction about how we mitigate those

[43:13] things. Um and a lot of that will just

[43:15] will occur from the from the sheer fact

[43:18] that they can only be doing work during

[43:20] certain times of the day and certain

[43:22] days of the week.

[43:23] >> And Keith of that I'd imagine in terms

[43:25] of noise it it's kind of relevant

[43:27] because the noise when Xerox was

[43:28] operating at full capacity is probably

[43:30] way noisier than it will be.

[43:32] >> Busier. Yeah.

[43:34] And noisier too than how many thousands

[43:36] of people

[43:37] >> you probably remember.

[43:38] >> And and the nice thing about this is the

[43:40] area

[43:40] >> busy. Not noisy though. Xerox wasn't

[43:43] noisy.

[43:44] >> Busy. Not noisy.

[43:45] >> Okay.

[43:46] >> The I I will say and the area the

[43:49] general area around here is not

[43:51] substantially residential where we're

[43:53] working where our work is occurring

[43:55] properly, you know. So I we we're well

[43:58] away from those kinds of

[44:00] >> and there's there's no right there's no

[44:02] plans to make those areas residential

[44:05] either there would be a problem would

[44:07] there be

[44:08] >> I mean I'm not aware of any specific

[44:10] plans within the immediate future you

[44:12] know not not within the the the timeline

[44:14] that this project will be under

[44:15] construction

[44:16] >> in the immediate vicinity. Yeah. Okay.

[44:17] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're we're

[44:20] planning on getting in and out of here

[44:21] in less than two years. So

[44:23] >> nice. Good. That's our

[44:26] um

[44:28] impact on human health. So we checked

[44:31] yes [clears throat] to this um but to to make it clear that this project

[44:41] is well aware of the environmental

[44:44] concerns and issues that surround and we

[44:46] know that we're working in areas where

[44:48] you know certainly Xerox has various

[44:53] have a lot of um management plans and

[44:56] we've been working with Xerox very

[44:58] closely about what those are, how we um

[45:02] work through those, work around those. I

[45:04] mean, it is it was as minute as where we

[45:09] could take cing and if we came across

[45:12] certain types of soils or things that

[45:16] looked a certain way, you know, how that

[45:19] stopped and how we had to address those

[45:21] situations. So the good thing

[45:25] to acknowledge we're working in a in an

[45:28] area where there is you know um some

[45:30] environmental concerns from the Xerox

[45:33] perspective from all of our work. Our

[45:37] work isn't in any of those zones that

[45:41] they've identified as being truly

[45:43] contaminated as I guess how I'll put it.

[45:46] Um they are there on their campus right

[45:50] yellows and reds and things like that.

[45:54] Um also our cores um that the cing that

[45:58] we did none of themated

[46:01] in any areas that we're going to have

[46:03] we're in a in a contaminated zone. So we

[46:06] know very and we know very well um you

[46:09] know when it comes doing deep

[46:13] >> and so Keith that it was you know it was

[46:14] my understanding it was explained to me

[46:15] that with that this project is this form

[46:18] is tailored to just we're doing the

[46:20] roads.

[46:20] >> Yeah.

[46:20] >> So all that stuff even though if it may

[46:22] be true overall that's not we're doing

[46:25] here. This is very focused to just these

[46:27] redoing these roads or putting some new

[46:29] roads in.

[46:31] >> Full stop.

[46:32] >> Right.

[46:32] >> Other stuff valid but not impacted here.

[46:34] >> Right. Right. Yep. Yep. Right. Exactly.

[46:37] >> Perfect. Thank you.

[46:41] » All right. Then I think we get into some

[46:43] no here. So consistency consistency with

[46:47] community plans.

[46:49] This is kind of a double no situation.

[46:52] So we are um so the proposed action is

[46:55] not consistent with adopted land use

[46:58] plans. So we're saying no to this. We

[47:01] are consistent. It took about

[47:05] two planners, four engineers to figure

[47:07] out how to answer this question.

[47:09] [laughter]

[47:12] We It was a Yeah. Uh consistency with

[47:16] community character. The proposed

[47:18] project is consistent with the existing

[47:20] community character.

[47:23] >> Inconsistent.

[47:23] >> It is,

[47:24] >> but it's a no.

[47:25] >> And you can see like once again, they

[47:26] went from like the double negative to

[47:27] inconsistent. Yeah. They could have been

[47:29] like, now that you figured out the prior

[47:30] 17, they could have let you be like, all

[47:32] right, I know the answer.

[47:34] >> Yeah. Could I move on?

[47:35] >> Yeah. Now they're like, let's let's

[47:36] change the words here to make this now,

[47:38] >> right?

[47:38] >> Equally confusing,

[47:40] >> right? Again, four engineers, two

[47:42] planners,

[47:44] couple other people, and we had to

[47:46] figure out how to answer these

[47:47] questions.

[47:48] >> Um impact on disadvantaged communities.

[47:52] No. Um this was pretty straightforward

[47:54] response.

[47:56] And then finally, future physical

[47:58] climate risks. Um, the proposed project

[48:01] may be vulnerable to future physical

[48:03] climate risks or increase the

[48:05] vulnerability of human or ecological

[48:07] communities to the future of physical

[48:10] climate risks. And we said no, that this

[48:13] is a strictly a road project and we are

[48:16] not doing anything uh above and beyond that that would send us into a

[48:22] risky situation.

[48:25] All right.

[48:27] >> So, you guys have just gone through

[48:29] parts.

[48:30] >> So exciting. Thank you, Keith.

[48:31] >> I know.

[48:32] >> Nice.

[48:33] >> How many? Very thorough.

[48:34] >> How many more do we have left?

[48:35] >> You have just this one. This is all This

[48:38] is what I needed to present with you

[48:41] tonight. Um I believe our next steps

[48:44] will be um this helps you assess and

[48:47] understand the impacts of the project.

[48:50] Um on the 3 there will be a resolution

[48:54] um for the board to make aation

[48:58] um on this project as the lead agency.

[49:02] >> So when you envision the RFP being sent

[49:04] out

[49:07] >> the project

[49:09] well I don't know if we've gotten that

[49:10] far yet with completely understanding

[49:12] how we if we would break up the project

[49:14] or not. Um,

[49:18] but RFPs will go out, I'm going to say

[49:22] December,

[49:24] beginning in the beginning part.

[49:26] >> Okay. I appreciate you bringing up the

[49:29] potentially breaking up the project

[49:32] because it's my understanding that if

[49:34] you break it up or it's already been

[49:36] broken up that the money's allocated to

[49:39] that aspect of the project. If you don't

[49:42] do it, you can't shift that money to

[49:44] another aspect. You are correct.

[49:45] >> Another area of the of the project.

[49:47] >> Yes, you are correct. Yeah, we are we

[49:50] are beholden to sort of the the groups I

[49:54] call them of monies as they're you know

[49:56] are categorized within the within the uh

[49:59] um within the grant. So I I mean I I

[50:03] think it would be the my personal bector

[50:10] that was doing all of it. Um only

[50:13] because it would give us a consistency

[50:16] across people dealing

[50:20] with.

[50:21] We'll have to kind we're gonna have to

[50:23] have discussion that about if this break

[50:26] it up and do the you know does the the village road

[50:32] similar component um and how that works

[50:36] and the

[50:38] component

[50:40] nature in construction

[50:43] uh scope so but we have to yeah more to

[50:46] >> I I I agree 100% with you

[50:50] from the aspect of having one contractor

[50:54] because then you do have consistency

[50:57] which and cons

[50:59] very important.

[51:00] >> Yep.

[51:01] >> So certain aspects of the project don't

[51:04] get siloed and you're doing you have the

[51:08] same general contractors overseeing the

[51:10] subcontractors. I think that's very very

[51:13] important.

[51:14] >> Yeah. Well, if I understand what I'm

[51:16] hearing,

[51:17] >> it's also very important for the funding

[51:19] because losing any part of the grant

[51:21] funding because something changed along

[51:24] the way is quite risky.

[51:26] >> No, I you're 100% right and which is why

[51:29] I'm very concerned

[51:32] and

[51:34] that show it's not to the standard it

[51:37] needs to be and if you have to dig that

[51:40] up and put new base stone and that you

[51:46] And I don't even know if curbing is

[51:48] required for that roadway because I

[51:50] don't believe there currently is any

[51:53] curbing.

[51:54] >> So it it could be very very expensive.

[51:57] >> Well, so uh just to be Yeah, just I

[52:01] guess just to clarify. So the B

[52:06] only up to the point where that roadway

[52:10] starts, right? Y

[52:11] >> so a future project in the near future

[52:15] I' needs to be developed or or needs to

[52:18] be thought about um for the rest of that

[52:21] and again that's the planning that needs

[52:24] to be

[52:24] >> started

[52:27] now what those costs are um and again

[52:30] we've got a we've got a design team with

[52:33] us that's you know able to help us start

[52:35] that planning process and give costs

[52:39] what we're in for and what we need to

[52:41] deal with here in the next two or three

[52:43] years.

[52:43] >> Well, it's good to you're ahead of it

[52:45] though. That's

[52:46] >> Yeah,

[52:46] >> today I am. [laughter]

[52:49] >> And you had mentioned the uh Army Corps

[52:52] of Engineers. We're still waiting on

[52:53] them for the Culveride that do we have

[52:56] to delay? I would say that what we're

[52:59] waiting for them to come back with is a

[53:03] um concurrence

[53:06] um andor feedback with concurrence on

[53:10] how we're proceeding with crossing this

[53:14] stream.

[53:15] But the fact that we're going to move

[53:17] forward with a project that ultimately

[53:20] has to cross the stream to make it work,

[53:23] you know,

[53:25] understanding that we're we're doing

[53:27] everything we can to impact that stream

[53:29] and do processes and that will will will

[53:34] minimize

[53:36] eliminate any of say no. I would say

[53:40] we're safe to go forward with a with a

[53:42] declaration at that point.

[53:44] >> Okay. Thank you.

[53:47] >> The traffic study in there and a lot of

[53:49] this is fair life traffic.

[53:53] I would say.

[53:56] >> Okay.

[53:57] >> No. Um, so we did the trip generation.

[54:01] Um the what we we we took the BOA that's

[54:06] been approved this area

[54:09] made some some high level assumptions

[54:12] with our traffic team our traffic analys

[54:20] um based on what was identified for that

[54:23] BOA. So it includes some mixed use, it

[54:26] includes, it includes some housing, it

[54:31] includes some I think some recreational

[54:34] things. Anything that was in that BOA,

[54:36] we tried to take into account in a on a

[54:38] high level develop

[54:41] trip generation or traffic for

[54:45] that to um assessment.

[54:51] So certainly and fair life is the most

[54:55] specific that we know. Right.

[54:57] >> And that's clear that's clear into like

[54:58] we know that that's not a like

[55:00] hypothetical like 1100 apartments might

[55:02] go in there theoretically.

[55:04] >> Right. Right. And we reconfirm with

[55:06] Fairlife. So a traffic study was done as

[55:09] part of their environmental um impact

[55:12] statement going through this this same

[55:15] process that we're going through here

[55:17] tonight.

[55:19] We took their information that they used

[55:22] um and reverified with them to make sure

[55:26] that there wasn't anything like oh you

[55:29] saw an

[55:32] uptick in

[55:34] one type of traffic or another type of

[55:35] traffic or something's changed that you

[55:38] know may have you know may have evolved

[55:40] as part of their project and uh they

[55:42] came back and um

[55:46] actually they came right in and said it

[55:49] was either what we had was was um right

[55:52] on target.

[55:54] >> So that with that the bolt for the

[55:57] current planning, right?

[55:58] >> Yeah. For well and we also we know too

[56:00] that like we think the bolter extension

[56:02] will be very popular for when the ball

[56:05] fields are in um use, you know, we

[56:08] understand that that uh you know that

[56:12] those get quite heavily very popular.

[56:15] Um,

[56:18] you know, we've we've taken we've gone

[56:21] as far with our our um with our design,

[56:24] I can tell you on the Bolter extension

[56:27] that we could either discourage people

[56:31] from parking along the edge of that road

[56:34] because been a

[56:36] herb

[56:38] could have made it a a um a uh a

[56:43] shoulder that could withstand having

[56:46] vehicles parking along it and parallel

[56:48] parking. So, um just knowing parking in

[56:52] is a premium and the popularity of those

[56:54] ball fields and stuff, we chose to go

[56:56] with the route of we'll work with we'll

[56:59] work with the devil we know and we'll make it accommodatable for for

[57:03] vehicles to park along the edges of

[57:05] Bolter.

[57:07] >> Okay. Because we're thinking there won't

[57:08] be much truck traffic during ball game

[57:10] time then.

[57:11] >> I mean I there

[57:14] would be there's trucks going in and out

[57:16] of there.

[57:17] >> Yeah, I I'd have to look back at what

[57:19] their you know I think their peak

[57:21] periods are and actually I think their

[57:24] periods of of tractor trailer traffic

[57:26] are slightly off from commuter pe

[57:29] periods and stuff as well. But I it's

[57:31] pretty consistent

[57:33] >> traffic is there while they're trying to

[57:34] use those fields as a

[57:36] >> Yeah. Well, and and here's the other

[57:38] thing is the the school district which

[57:40] we are working with as part of all this.

[57:42] They also have intentions of building um

[57:47] relocating some of their

[57:50] well off road as well.

[57:51] >> Okay, good.

[57:52] >> So they have their own M plan will

[57:56] working with and so we're just trying to

[57:59] make sure that we are also in

[58:01] conjunction with them in accom

[58:04] >> projected traffic flow and pattern and

[58:06] use for the Chyota drive extension,

[58:09] >> you know.

[58:12] I don't have the traffic study in front

[58:14] of me here, right? [laughter]

[58:16] Is it in our stuff? Is it in our stuff?

[58:18] >> It may have been in our stuff. Yeah.

[58:20] I think it is. I But I um

[58:23] >> it's not

[58:24] >> And you can get back You can get back to

[58:25] me if you want.

[58:25] >> Yeah, I Yeah, I could I Well, I could

[58:27] tell you this.

[58:28] >> The envision for that is very is local,

[58:31] right? A lot of local traffic. I don't

[58:34] It's not envisioned to be thousands of

[58:36] vehicles a day kind of a thing. and the

[58:38] way and the character of that roadway

[58:40] and the way we're designing that we it's

[58:43] to be a village feel, right? It's not to

[58:46] have a it's not to be felt like it

[58:49] should be used as a a collector or or

[58:52] something like really just to support

[58:54] the local transportation network. It's

[58:56] not a and it's to have more of a village

[59:00] feel from the village into

[59:03] and vice versa.

[59:07] Any other thoughts? Just curious. Yeah.

[59:09] Thank you.

[59:09] >> So, this question is is me getting down

[59:11] in the weeds, and I apologize for it. If

[59:14] you can't answer, I completely

[59:15] understand.

[59:16] >> I got people here in the room that might

[59:17] help me.

[59:18] >> There we go. Call them up.

[59:19] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[59:19] >> But given the magnitude and the weight

[59:22] of the trucks from Fairlife that are

[59:25] going to be servicing that road. I guess

[59:28] my question is, are we designing that

[59:31] road to hold the capacity?

[59:34] >> Yes. long term given the weight of these

[59:37] trucks and the volume of these going

[59:43] » since that's the main driver for doing

[59:46] this.

[59:47] >> So we you know Yes. And and we are

[59:49] designing

[59:51] >> um Yes. not not only the the actual

[59:56] structural uh capacity of the road but

[59:59] also the um curb radiuses say to

[1:00:04] accommodate you know those vehicles. So

[1:00:06] uh a northbound

[1:00:08] >> truck on Salt Road making that right

[1:00:11] turn um you know that curb rate if you

[1:00:14] look at the plans and you're like wow

[1:00:15] that's kind of funky the way that curb

[1:00:16] is there. Well, it's there purposely

[1:00:18] because

[1:00:19] >> that tractor trailer has a certain

[1:00:21] turning radius that needs to be

[1:00:22] accommodated.

[1:00:24] >> And the lucky and we're and a lot of

[1:00:26] that is

[1:00:28] >> um we've mimicked exactly what was done

[1:00:32] as part of the ta uh table road

[1:00:34] reconstruction project. So we have a lot

[1:00:36] of good experience that that geometry

[1:00:39] that's being accommodated for table road

[1:00:41] from basket we now are just translating

[1:00:44] that down to salt.

[1:00:45] >> Okay.

[1:00:46] I I just asked that question because I

[1:00:48] know there's there's a there's a village

[1:00:50] um about an hour from here where they

[1:00:54] redirected 18-wheeler trucks from going

[1:00:56] down a certain street for decades and

[1:01:00] then for some reason

[1:01:02] they took a sign down and trucks have

[1:01:05] just torn up that street and it's one of

[1:01:07] the main arteries in that village.

[1:01:09] >> Yeah.

[1:01:09] >> So I that's what kind of prompted that

[1:01:11] question but it's a great answer. I'm

[1:01:13] glad that they're going down that route

[1:01:14] to uh design

[1:01:16] taking into consideration.

[1:01:18] >> Oh, yeah. Well, yeah.

[1:01:19] >> The number and weight of the vehicles.

[1:01:21] >> Yep. As Councilwoman Wright said, that's

[1:01:23] kind of our purpose here for a lot of

[1:01:25] this. So,

[1:01:26] >> why we're here.

[1:01:27] >> Yep. Yep. [cough]

[1:01:30] [clears throat]

[1:01:31] >> All right.

[1:01:32] >> That's all I had.

[1:01:33] >> All right. Yeah. Keith, thank you for

[1:01:36] you guys.

[1:01:36] >> Thank you so much.

[1:01:37] >> Thank my the team in the back, too.

[1:01:40] >> To your team.

[1:01:41] >> They're the brains. Really?

[1:01:43] >> Yeah. No, they've done a terrific job.

[1:01:45] So, uh I will close up the uh town

[1:01:48] workshop and I will see you back 7:30.

Town Board Workshop - August 20, 2026

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