[0:06] Call to order

[0:07] meeting of the ASRB from Monday, June

[0:11] 15th at 4:30 p.m.

[0:14] May I have a roll call, please?

[0:16] >> Chair Lindsey.

[0:17] >> Yes.

[0:17] >> Member Del Gavio. Member Sullivan.

[0:20] >> Here.

[0:20] >> And vice chair Cameron member Middleman

[0:22] are noted absent.

[0:26] » Have any changes to the agenda tonight?

[0:29] >> There are no changes to the agenda and

[0:31] no disk items.

[0:32] >> Okay.

[0:33] Um at this point we call for any member

[0:36] of the public either in the room or

[0:38] online who wishes to make a comment or

[0:40] statement on any item not on tonight's

[0:43] agenda.

[0:44] >> There's nobody in the Zoom room.

[0:46] >> Okay, and I see no one

[0:49] here in the hall, so we'll close that

[0:51] item and move to the

[0:53] consent agenda. I don't believe there's

[0:55] any items on the consent agenda.

[0:57] >> Um

[0:59] there are some three minutes. Um yeah,

[1:01] there's the minutes of June 3rd, 2020.

[1:03] >> Oh, okay.

[1:06] >> I'm sorry, I'm looking at a a wrong

[1:08] agenda.

[1:08] >> Uh-oh.

[1:09] >> Um that was the consent agenda.

[1:14] » [clears throat]

[1:14] >> Yeah, there's minutes of May 4th and May

[1:17] 18th.

[1:21] » I can make a motion to approve that.

[1:25] » So moved.

[1:27] >> Chair Lindsey.

[1:28] >> Yes.

[1:28] >> Member Del Gavio. Member Sullivan.

[1:30] >> Yes.

[1:35] » Okay.

[1:36] Um

[1:39] Just checking. So, next

[1:41] item on the agenda is the nomination of

[1:43] chair and vice chair roles. You Can you

[1:46] give a summary of what was approved?

[1:48] >> Oh, sure. Yes. So, um

[1:50] as we discussed at a previous meeting

[1:53] that the

[1:55] handbook um indicates that a chair and

[1:58] vice chair shall serve for 2 years, but

[2:01] no more than 2 years in a 4-year period.

[2:04] Um, and

[2:06] at our previous discussion the AS RB

[2:09] all the members unanimously, all five

[2:11] members, um, indicated that they'd like

[2:14] to see Chair Lindsey continue as chair.

[2:16] And so, given that the handbook is

[2:18] something just just adopted by the town

[2:19] council by resolution, uh, staff brought

[2:22] this question to the town council for

[2:25] this particular instance, not ongoing.

[2:27] And so, in this particular instance, the

[2:29] town council uh, did allow for the

[2:32] current chair and the current vice

[2:33] chair, if they want to, um, to continue

[2:36] to serve for another 2-year term. Um,

[2:39] so,

[2:40] uh, if it is the case in which the board

[2:42] would like to nominate Chair Lindsey,

[2:44] um, they can do that and if there's an

[2:46] affirmative vote, he would serve for

[2:48] another 2-year term.

[2:49] And that could be the same for the vice

[2:50] chair, but my understanding is Vice

[2:52] Chair Comer does not want to continue as

[2:55] um, vice chair, so that would just open

[2:57] up nominations for that position.

[3:00] >> Um,

[3:02] >> He did and I think she's online today.

[3:03] >> Um, if she yeah, if she if she's

[3:05] interested and she's and

[3:07] she can definitely, uh, comment, I

[3:09] think.

[3:10] >> Uh, would I make the nomination then for

[3:12] Chair Lindsey?

[3:13] >> Yes, you can do that.

[3:15] >> I would like to make a nomination that

[3:16] Chair Lindsey continues to serve for the

[3:17] next 2-year term.

[3:19] >> I will second.

[3:20] >> Here.

[3:22] >> Uh, Chair Lindsey?

[3:24] >> Yes.

[3:25] >> [laughter]

[3:26] >> Member Del Gaudio?

[3:27] Member Sullivan?

[3:28] >> Yes.

[3:31] Okay, thank you.

[3:32] >> Um,

[3:33] >> I think.

[3:34] >> Do we have, is Vice Chair Comer online?

[3:37] Do you see her?

[3:37] >> Somebody named YD laptop is on.

[3:45] » We don't know.

[3:46] >> Yeah.

[3:46] >> It's not her name.

[3:48] >> I think she is going to be, I don't

[3:49] know, her family laptop.

[3:54] » Um in her absence, Sage, can we continue

[3:56] this item to the next meeting?

[3:59] >> Um you can.

[4:01] Um

[4:02] and that would just keep her as vice

[4:03] chair for the time being.

[4:05] >> Okay.

[4:06] I move that we do that.

[4:09] >> Second.

[4:10] >> Just to Just so we're all

[4:12] clear on expectations.

[4:14] >> Would you like a vote? Okay. Chair

[4:16] Lindsey.

[4:17] >> Yes.

[4:17] >> Member Del Gavio.

[4:19] Member Sullivan.

[4:20] >> Yes.

[4:22] >> Okay.

[4:23] Thank you.

[4:24] Um with that, we move to um the first

[4:28] item of the public hearing, 275 Jocelyn

[4:31] Lane.

[4:34] Look to Sarah for presentation.

[4:36] >> Um yes, thank you.

[4:39] >> [clears throat]

[4:40] >> Let load for a second.

[4:44] Okay.

[4:46] Um yes, thank you. I will be

[4:48] introducing the project at 275 Jocelyn

[4:51] Lane.

[4:52] The project includes the demolition of

[4:55] an existing single-family residence as

[4:58] well as accessory structures and

[4:59] swimming pool.

[5:01] And includes the construction of a new

[5:04] single-family main residence with a

[5:06] detached garage,

[5:08] a detached ADU,

[5:10] um a guest pavilion ADU, swimming pool,

[5:14] and other site improvements.

[5:17] The property is approximately 8 and 1/2

[5:19] acres and it's in the SCP-5

[5:23] zoning district.

[5:25] It's located off of Jocelyn Lane, which

[5:27] is a private road that extends off of

[5:30] Kings Mountain Road.

[5:32] Um as you can see, the site has several

[5:36] areas with 35% slope, so it's a um lots

[5:40] of um topography,

[5:43] um steep slopes on site.

[5:45] It is currently developed, as I

[5:48] mentioned with the single family

[5:49] residence and accessory structures,

[5:52] um all of which are proposed to be

[5:53] demolished.

[5:55] Um the

[5:57] proposed new main residence is kind of

[6:01] located in the same general location as

[6:03] the existing development, so it's this

[6:05] sort of

[6:07] um

[6:08] structure here that's the proposed main

[6:09] residence.

[6:11] So, kind of in the approximate center of

[6:14] the property.

[6:15] And then

[6:17] over [clears throat] here in this um

[6:18] area is the proposed ADU

[6:21] and a proposed garage

[6:24] / gym structure.

[6:27] And then kind of

[6:29] uh south of the main residence is a new

[6:33] guest house pavilion um ADU, so it is an

[6:36] ADU.

[6:37] As well as a new swimming pool.

[6:41] The existing driveway location onto the

[6:44] property will remain in the same

[6:46] location. It'll be modified slightly to

[6:49] um include new circulation as well as

[6:52] parking and a fire truck turnaround.

[6:54] That's that um piece right here.

[6:58] There are

[7:03] Um there are six significant trees

[7:06] proposed for removal

[7:08] in the project vicinity.

[7:13] And then let me just pull up some

[7:15] elevations.

[7:19] So, the main residence is a two-story

[7:23] structure

[7:24] uh with the height being about 26.9

[7:28] ft tall at the highest point.

[7:32] Uh the de- detached structures will all

[7:34] be less than the 17-ft maximum.

[7:37] And the materials for all of the

[7:39] structures include a mixed material

[7:41] palette.

[7:42] Um consisting of metal roofing, plaster

[7:46] siding,

[7:48] um with wood decks and wood panel

[7:50] siding, as well as terracotta tile

[7:52] siding.

[7:54] Um and the colors will be muted

[7:58] in shades of brown and beige.

[8:02] Um the applicant did not install story

[8:05] poles yet.

[8:07] Um but that kind of includes my

[8:09] introduction to the project and I'm

[8:10] happy to answer any questions.

[8:14] » Okay.

[8:15] Thank you, Sarah. Um does any member of

[8:17] the board have questions of staff

[8:19] regarding this

[8:21] proposal?

[8:25] Okay.

[8:28] Not until we heard the presentation.

[8:29] >> Okay.

[8:30] >> Yeah. All right. Thank you, Sarah.

[8:31] >> [clears throat]

[8:32] >> Um so with that we'll move to the

[8:33] applicant. If the applicant wishes to

[8:35] make a presentation, um

[8:37] please do so.

[8:39] >> Yes, we do. Uh my name is Peter Mason.

[8:41] I'm with Mason Architects. I'm serving

[8:43] as the local

[8:45] uh architect to assist the uh

[8:47] international architect of

[8:49] King Kengo Kuma, uh who's from Tokyo.

[8:53] And [snorts]

[8:54] um

[8:55] they I have here are uh Will

[8:59] Pritzker Pritzner

[9:01] >> That's right.

[9:03] >> Uh and Kyle Edwards Edwards Uh that are

[9:07] and Will Will, do you want to say

[9:08] something?

[9:09] >> I would love to.

[9:13] Hello, everybody.

[9:19] Hello, everyone. Uh once again, my name

[9:21] is Will Panzner.

[9:23] Um I am an ownership representative.

[9:26] And I was the one that was lucky enough

[9:29] to actually find this beautiful piece of

[9:31] land not too long ago. Um so with that

[9:34] said, I'm um

[9:36] super excited about this project. It

[9:38] really is an incredible

[9:40] lot.

[9:42] The natural beauty is is it was um

[9:45] It was incredible to see for the first

[9:47] time. And with that said, I'm very

[9:49] excited. We have a wonderful team here

[9:50] as well. And I would invite Kyle as well

[9:53] to come say hi to everybody.

[9:58] » Hi, I'm Kyle Edward. I've been retained

[10:00] by the owner as the construction

[10:02] manager. Um again, we're we're really

[10:05] excited about the project. If if you're

[10:06] familiar with architecture at all, Kengo

[10:08] Kuma is one of the best in the world.

[10:10] So, we all feel very fortunate to be a

[10:12] part of the project. And again, we're

[10:15] really excited to be a part of the

[10:16] community and make sure that we're

[10:18] conducting the construction operations

[10:20] as as smoothly as and

[10:23] um

[10:24] as less impactful as possible. So, um

[10:27] yeah, it's a it's a beautiful town.

[10:28] We're we're very familiar with side and

[10:31] yeah, excited to be here. And thank you

[10:33] for your time.

[10:34] >> Thanks.

[10:38] » Okay. Okay, I'm going to go through a

[10:40] little bit of the design a little bit

[10:42] for you.

[10:43] And there was some stuff in here that

[10:44] wasn't in the package that and I'm going

[10:47] to try and see if all that works right.

[10:49] Okay.

[10:51] Next, Shangri. Shangri from my office is

[10:54] running the thing. Okay, so this is the

[10:57] um

[10:58] This is the site itself. It sits

[11:00] um

[11:03] It sits at the very end of Jasmine Road.

[11:05] And as a result, it's it got a very

[11:08] private

[11:10] environment. But it's also a very

[11:12] constrained site. There's

[11:14] San Andreas fault here. There's another

[11:17] portion of the San Andreas down here.

[11:19] And there's a zone in here that's

[11:21] debatable.

[11:22] Um next.

[11:27] This

[11:30] Oh, sorry. You want to go back?

[11:34] Uh so, this is a vicinity map that shows

[11:36] kind of where the all the adjacent

[11:38] houses are.

[11:39] Um the road Jocelyn Road comes up here

[11:42] and goes up that way. This is a flag off

[11:44] of it. It has this house and this house

[11:46] over here.

[11:47] Uh this is a very steep area and I'll

[11:49] show you on the next slide what that's

[11:51] doing.

[11:52] Uh this is the San Andreas.

[11:54] Uh there's another piece of it down here

[11:57] and there's another piece of it

[11:57] potentially here.

[11:59] Uh so, it's a very constrained site. So,

[12:02] there's

[12:02] next slide, Shingri.

[12:05] This is the existing uh property, you

[12:07] know, in terms of what's there now.

[12:10] Uh the buildable area is really this

[12:13] zone and a little bit of stuff over

[12:14] here, but that's it on this entire 8 and

[12:17] 1/2 acre site.

[12:18] So, it's very constrained. There's a lot

[12:20] of 35% slope. Some of this is is

[12:23] man-made.

[12:24] Uh some of the This is where the current

[12:27] septic field is that we're going to be

[12:29] expanding a little bit and

[12:30] reconditioning.

[12:32] Next.

[12:34] The idea here is to really take

[12:36] advantage of the entire environment.

[12:38] This is kind of give you I idea of a

[12:40] glimpse of what's happening with the

[12:41] western hills. Uh the this the hills it

[12:45] I mean, the trees

[12:47] and this is the view that we're trying

[12:48] to capture as part of this of the house.

[12:52] While maintaining as much of the natural

[12:54] site in this kind of state as possible

[12:56] where and then forest.

[12:58] Next.

[13:00] These are some other

[13:02] um photos. I don't know what how many of

[13:04] you would actually gone up there, but

[13:06] this is the driveway that comes off of

[13:07] Jocelyn.

[13:08] There's a meadow off to this off to the

[13:10] right-hand side,

[13:12] which is where the um garage goes.

[13:14] And then there's another meadow over

[13:16] here on the left-hand side. And as you

[13:18] come out, then that's the that's the

[13:20] view out towards the western hills that

[13:23] we're trying to capture as part of the

[13:24] house.

[13:25] Next.

[13:28] The idea here is is really to create a

[13:30] very serene environment. Um this is a

[13:33] couple of this is one of um

[13:35] Kendra Kumos uh houses other houses. So

[13:40] this isn't what we're doing but it's

[13:41] something like something similar.

[13:43] Next.

[13:47] As Sarah was saying this is the proposed

[13:49] site. The main residence is here which

[13:51] is about where the pool is and the some

[13:53] of the accessory existing accessory

[13:55] structures are.

[13:57] The new pool is going here. There's a

[13:59] office slash guest room over here. And

[14:03] then the uh

[14:05] the garage. So we've we've added in a uh

[14:08] fire fire truck turnaround there.

[14:10] And then there's a wide courtyard like

[14:12] you saw in that previous uh photo where

[14:15] there's a uh

[14:17] low pool with natural environment. And

[14:19] there's a seven seven turn path that

[14:22] goes down to the pool. Which is a

[14:25] Japanese

[14:27] um

[14:28] concept. Landscape concept. Next.

[14:34] Coming up the driveway

[14:36] and be a turnoff going down here to the

[14:38] garage.

[14:39] And then this is where the guest house

[14:41] is the main residence.

[14:44] The main great room with the living area

[14:47] spaces. And the dining room and then the

[14:49] family portions here and the kids bed

[14:52] bedrooms above.

[14:53] Uh

[14:54] all are oriented out here towards the

[14:55] view. Same thing with the pool itself.

[14:59] Next.

[15:02] Just give you an idea of kind of what

[15:03] the roof how it fits in with the site.

[15:06] These existing trees are remaining.

[15:09] And

[15:11] will be enhanced to it create a real

[15:14] uh separation between the house and the

[15:16] road.

[15:19] Next.

[15:22] These are just some three-dimensional

[15:23] models of it.

[15:26] Next.

[15:30] So, there's a The idea here is there's

[15:32] the deep overhangs.

[15:33] Um this is a a view as you're coming up

[15:36] into the driving circle that looks out

[15:37] towards the western hills. And this is

[15:40] where the um porcelain

[15:45] not porcelain, but

[15:47] um

[15:50] Anyway, so there's outdoor areas all the way around

[15:52] it.

[15:53] Next.

[15:58] So, these are some of the natural

[15:59] materials we're looking at that are that

[16:01] are being looked at in terms of how it

[16:03] works. Um there's a ceramics

[16:05] uh

[16:06] screen is in various wings that are all

[16:09] being studied now. So, this is kind of

[16:11] an early

[16:13] uh study of it. Next.

[16:18] Again, that gives you an idea of how the um

[16:22] the vertical fins are protecting the

[16:25] house from

[16:26] view as well as out towards and the view

[16:29] out towards the hills.

[16:34] Yeah.

[16:38] Next.

[16:41] And then this is the small um

[16:43] small

[16:46] guest guest house over on the side.

[16:50] And the pool off to the This is actually

[16:52] been we're moving that's getting moved

[16:53] down about a couple two or three feet to

[16:55] open up the view even more.

[16:58] Next.

[17:02] That's from the pool looking back

[17:03] towards the house.

[17:06] And then you've seen the elevations.

[17:13] Everything's within All the buildings

[17:15] are within the within the code required

[17:17] heights.

[17:18] And

[17:19] uh

[17:20] TFAs.

[17:27] Two-story, but there's a There's a

[17:28] portion of the basement.

[17:30] Includes mechanical spaces and

[17:33] uh uh

[17:37] theater type space. Next.

[17:44] Landscape-wise, the whole idea here is

[17:46] to maintain as much of the existing

[17:48] Unfortunately, there's a couple trees

[17:49] we're having problems with in terms of

[17:51] how we fit within the within it. There's

[17:54] a tree out here that we're

[17:56] there's not much we can do about.

[17:58] There's a tree here that we're talking

[17:59] about how to whether move this back or

[18:03] uh adjust it so that there's a tree here

[18:05] and a tree here that we're trying to

[18:07] save.

[18:08] Uh but it's, you know, we're working

[18:10] with a with the arborist.

[18:12] The idea here is to add more trees

[18:16] upper and lower so that the landscape

[18:18] concept is based upon a a layered

[18:21] approach where there's low ground cover

[18:24] and grasses and that kind of stuff to

[18:26] medium-sized bushes to taller trees that

[18:29] fill in so that when you're coming up

[18:30] here, you're not going to you're not

[18:32] going to be seeing the house until you

[18:35] get clear up into here, which is the

[18:37] intent, which is to keep and maintain

[18:39] the privacy

[18:40] and, you know,

[18:43] create some create a unique retreat.

[18:45] Next.

[18:49] So, there's this is sort of the the idea

[18:52] of the layered approach where you're

[18:53] having low level

[18:54] and this is being refined. We have We're

[18:56] working with a the architect landscape

[18:58] architect to develop it further.

[19:00] And then the medium high

[19:03] shrubbery

[19:04] and then bigger stuff so that it's it's

[19:07] a layered it's a has creates a layering

[19:10] as you know, to create the buffer and to

[19:12] create privacy.

[19:15] Next.

[19:17] And then the trees itself.

[19:20] And do I have any questions?

[19:22] >> Thank you, Peter.

[19:24] Um

[19:25] a couple of questions. Uh Eric, could

[19:27] you go to sheet

[19:29] A1.1?

[19:34] This um trench

[19:37] that's going to be dug.

[19:39] If that reveals any sort of issues

[19:42] underlying [snorts] that area, as you

[19:43] said,

[19:44] potentially.

[19:46] >> [laughter]

[19:46] >> Uh it has been dug.

[19:48] >> that have?

[19:49] >> It has been dug.

[19:50] >> Okay.

[19:51] >> Uh they are working with the town

[19:53] engineer to define the um

[19:57] parameters of this of the uh zone,

[20:01] seismic zone.

[20:02] And um

[20:04] and then it'll be plotted by Leon Braze

[20:06] onto the site plan and we'll have that

[20:08] as part of the next discussion. And if

[20:10] we need to adjust something, we'll move

[20:11] it around.

[20:13] We we we think at this time that it

[20:15] doesn't affect doesn't affect the main

[20:17] residence at all. It may affect a little

[20:19] bit of some of this.

[20:21] But we don't think. And and if it does,

[20:23] we're we'll just do a garage over there.

[20:26] >> Are are we discussing the

[20:30] » We may we may do a like a four-car,

[20:31] five-car garage here and and work work

[20:35] around the other pro- programmatic

[20:38] items.

[20:40] >> Okay.

[20:41] >> Are the piles or the trees that are in

[20:43] question?

[20:45] >> Um yes.

[20:47] So this one's kind of this there's a

[20:48] redwood tree here that there's a whole

[20:50] bunch of redwood trees. They're all in

[20:52] varying states of

[20:54] uh

[20:55] surviving.

[20:56] They're surviving. How we don't know,

[20:58] but they are. Uh so this one's in the

[21:00] way to get the get the path get the entrance to work. There's one

[21:05] here that's, you know, not really

[21:07] significant and this one there's nothing

[21:09] we can do about. We just don't have We

[21:10] just don't have any room to do it move

[21:12] it. To do it and it's not movable.

[21:14] >> One of the cabinets is a possible

[21:16] >> So the Yeah, so there's this one here.

[21:18] So we're looking at what we can do to

[21:20] save that one. There's another one right

[21:21] here that we're working on. We're trying

[21:23] to keep both of those trees.

[21:25] But we don't know yet.

[21:27] We may or may not be successful.

[21:30] But we're planning enough trees to more

[21:31] than cover the

[21:35] » The wood fins and they are in front of

[21:37] the terracotta on the walls. Is that not

[21:39] a

[21:39] >> The what is?

[21:40] >> The wood fins

[21:41] >> No, the the There's the fins are going

[21:44] to be terracotta.

[21:50] Yeah, so it's it's kind of a

[21:53] very

[21:55] A little bit of old A little bit old

[21:56] coming into the new.

[21:59] » And is there standing water in some of

[22:01] those locations like

[22:02] >> Yeah, so the ponds The ponds in here are

[22:05] going to be They're going to all going

[22:06] to be, you know, 4 or 5 inches deep.

[22:09] >> Circulation or there's not

[22:11] >> Yeah, right. Right. Yeah.

[22:22] » Okay.

[22:23] >> Anything else?

[22:24] >> Um

[22:26] » If you can think of anything, let me

[22:28] know.

[22:28] >> Yeah, we So we I mean

[22:31] This direction This sort of style is not

[22:34] something we see a lot of.

[22:36] So my question to you is actually, you

[22:38] know,

[22:39] this warehouse were built in a similar

[22:42] rural community

[22:44] in Japan, would it be completely in

[22:46] place?

[22:48] >> Yes.

[22:49] >> Okay.

[22:49] >> Yeah, and I think it fits here, too. I

[22:51] think with the materials and the way

[22:53] it's cited, I think it fits very well in

[22:55] Woodside.

[22:57] >> And the challenge for us is not having

[22:58] full down materials that we need.

[23:00] >> Yeah. Well, that's what you're going to

[23:02] see next. That's what formal's for.

[23:04] >> Yep.

[23:05] >> So, we'll we'll give you a little bit

[23:06] more information on how we're doing that

[23:08] and

[23:09] we're working through how the structure

[23:10] works and how the all that all that

[23:12] works and

[23:13] what the glazing system does and

[23:15] what the seismic needs to do.

[23:19] >> Okay.

[23:20] >> Any other questions?

[23:21] >> No.

[23:27] » See the light.

[23:31] » It's a It's a placeholder for now.

[23:35] We know the rules.

[23:37] >> We like see the

[23:40] » So, so we'll have that we'll get we'll

[23:42] have detailed lighting plans. It's part

[23:44] of the

[23:46] >> Yeah, there wasn't um

[23:48] much lighting included. It's not

[23:50] required at this stage. Yeah.

[23:56] » Maybe.

[23:57] >> Doing better good.

[23:59] >> So,

[24:01] see it I'll try to sum it

[24:03] page.

[24:04] Um

[24:07] uh it is sort of a difference just in case there's anyone

[24:10] online so we just make sure if there's

[24:13] any public comment.

[24:17] Um

[24:19] it is somewhat a typical style for for

[24:21] us to review here in the town. I don't

[24:24] recall having

[24:26] um reviewed a similar

[24:29] design in the last few years. Um I think

[24:31] what

[24:32] it is extremely private site. So, that's

[24:35] working in your favor is that

[24:37] um no one can

[24:39] see it

[24:40] unless you're right upon it.

[24:42] Um what I like in particular is actually

[24:45] the choice of materials that we are

[24:46] seeing in the renderings. I think that's

[24:49] one of the things that

[24:50] brings it very much back in line with

[24:52] expectations of the town of Woodside to

[24:55] um be sensitive about choice of

[24:57] materials, natural materials, natural

[24:59] colorings.

[25:01] Um,

[25:03] privacy I think is

[25:06] pretty unique aspect of this property.

[25:09] Um, which I think in turn gives more

[25:11] flexibility in terms of the design

[25:14] direction and style choices. Um, I think

[25:17] it's particularly well done,

[25:18] particularly elegant. Um,

[25:21] and I like

[25:23] how all the aspects are

[25:26] organized.

[25:28] Um,

[25:29] obviously saving trees is something we

[25:31] always promote.

[25:32] Um,

[25:34] I did get a chance to visit the site and

[25:36] I think that that grove indicated by

[25:38] that bunch of red dots and

[25:40] cutting across the center, I think that

[25:42] preserving that is critical to this

[25:44] project.

[25:46] Um, I think there's I don't know exactly

[25:49] today where the existing drive goes

[25:51] relative to what's being drawn as new,

[25:54] especially that large

[25:55] tree marked for removal in the center

[25:57] just to the right of the

[26:01] trench.

[26:02] Um, I don't know where the existing

[26:03] drive goes relative to

[26:04] >> Existing drive comes up a little bit

[26:06] further. Our turnarounds are right about

[26:08] there. And the existing house is right

[26:11] about there.

[26:12] And the pool's over here. Yeah.

[26:16] » Yeah, so again, and the guidance would

[26:18] be anything that could be further

[26:20] refined in order to preserve more trees.

[26:22] We always encourage that.

[26:24] Um, I think for me that pretty much

[26:27] summarizes my feedback.

[26:31] Like to add to that?

[26:33] >> No, I think it's beautiful, it's

[26:34] interesting, unique. Um,

[26:36] certainly love the whole organic

[26:38] environment that you're trying to create

[26:39] there. I think, uh,

[26:41] again, as repeating, the trees are

[26:43] really important to us and I'm sure they

[26:45] will be to you and your client as well.

[26:47] So, anything that you could do to save,

[26:49] I'm also we're We're concerned about,

[26:51] uh, any kind of lighting, but I'm sure

[26:53] once again with this style of property

[26:55] most likely they're not going to want

[26:57] light it up very much either. So,

[27:00] I don't have any strong objections. I

[27:02] mean, it'd be great if we could see the

[27:04] materials, but if that comes next time

[27:06] round,

[27:07] out of our hands, we're cool.

[27:10] >> Would you want to see the project come

[27:12] back in formal?

[27:14] >> So, story poles have not been installed.

[27:16] Um so, uh in this in these instances,

[27:21] um there's two options the way you could

[27:22] look at it is one that they'll just come

[27:24] back for formal. They'll also they'll

[27:26] install story poles at that time. Also,

[27:28] give you the opportunity to look at the

[27:29] materials and lighting.

[27:31] Um if you prefer that staff completes a

[27:33] formal design review, uh then what's

[27:36] happened in the past is we've kind of

[27:37] continued the conceptual review, and it

[27:40] allows the and it allows the applicant

[27:42] to install story poles. We put the item

[27:44] on consent. If there's no further

[27:46] concerns based on the story poles at the

[27:48] conceptual level, then it could be

[27:51] passed to staff for formal design

[27:53] review. Um if you want to see more

[27:55] aspects of the project, it's probably

[27:57] just best to bring it back to the ASBR.

[28:01] » Yeah. So, that's that's what I would

[28:03] move that we

[28:05] uh approve conceptual,

[28:07] >> Mhm.

[28:08] >> and but have the project returned to the

[28:10] ASBR as part of formal.

[28:12] >> Sure. And so, what I've heard is that

[28:15] the commended the applicant

[28:17] for the design of the structure is

[28:19] unique, but is uh a good choice of

[28:21] materials and colors to blend in with

[28:24] the surrounding area. And that um in

[28:27] terms of recommendations,

[28:30] uh the ASBR is encouraging the applicant

[28:31] to try to save um some of the trees that

[28:34] are proposed for removal if possible,

[28:36] and also encouraging the applicant to

[28:39] provide minimal lighting that's around

[28:41] the

[28:42] uh development, and obviously would be

[28:44] downward facing and shielded.

[28:48] Anything else?

[28:49] >> Good. That's great.

[28:51] All right.

[28:53] >> So, the motion is to bring it back with

[28:55] those items

[28:57] to the ASBRB for formal design review.

[28:59] Is there a second?

[29:00] >> Second the motion.

[29:02] >> Chair Lindsey.

[29:02] >> Yes.

[29:03] >> Member Delgavi.

[29:04] Member Sullivan.

[29:05] >> Yes.

[29:08] » Okay.

[29:10] >> Great.

[29:10] >> You'll receive a letter in the next

[29:11] couple days.

[29:12] >> Great.

[29:13] Thank you very much.

[29:14] >> Thank you.

[29:15] It's going to be fun.

[29:17] >> Thanks, everyone.

[29:17] >> Thank you.

[29:18] >> Good to see you soon.

[29:21] That's the impression.

[29:21] >> Yes.

[29:22] >> Thank you.

[29:28] » All right. In terms of um director's

[29:29] reports, I mean you you have a

[29:31] director's report for May.

[29:33] Um and as we kind of always highlight

[29:34] with these things is looking at our

[29:36] housing numbers.

[29:37] We've also included a new pie chart um

[29:40] that actually uh identifies all of the

[29:44] residential housing permits that have

[29:46] been issued

[29:47] um

[29:48] for this arena cycle six for this

[29:50] housing element. Uh so, you'll see a

[29:52] total of 87 ADUs so far and 36

[29:55] single-family dwellings.

[29:57] Um so, that's all the way up to date

[29:59] through May.

[30:00] And then uh for the month of May, we

[30:03] didn't have any single-family dwelling

[30:05] permits issued and only two ADU permits.

[30:09] Um but, on the positive side,

[30:11] um when you add up the numbers at least

[30:13] for the ADUs, we are at 15 ADUs so far

[30:17] this year.

[30:18] Um so, you know, roughly halfway through

[30:20] the year, not even quite halfway. And if

[30:22] we were able to keep up this pace and

[30:24] hit 30 ADUs

[30:26] um this year, that would be great. That

[30:27] would be the highest we've ever had in

[30:29] several years, if not ever. Um so, we

[30:32] are seeing um

[30:33] more interest in ADUs as well as

[30:36] uh we're continuing to modify municipal

[30:40] code to make things more flexible.

[30:42] Um we just brought another ordinance to

[30:44] the planning commission last month and

[30:47] they have recommended approval. So, we

[30:48] will be bringing it to the next council

[30:50] meeting another ordinance updating ADU

[30:53] standards to provide more flexibility.

[30:55] Um

[30:55] >> [snorts]

[30:56] >> So, so the some of the highlights are,

[30:58] you know, for a second driveway

[30:59] exception that needs to serve an ADU, we

[31:01] can just deal with that at the staff

[31:03] level without having to go to the

[31:04] planning commission.

[31:06] Um there's uh

[31:08] a couple other little tweaks we've done

[31:10] really to clarify some of the stuff in

[31:12] terms of like how far eaves and

[31:14] overhangs for ADUs can go into the

[31:16] setback since the ADU is already in the

[31:19] setback. Um same with things like uh

[31:22] um we've already in practice we've

[31:24] already done this in terms of like uh

[31:26] HVAC units

[31:27] um you know, for ADUs, they have to be

[31:30] adjacent to the building. So, we're just

[31:32] clarifying and what we do in practice is

[31:34] that uh they can be next to the ADUs,

[31:36] they just can't be any closer than 4 ft

[31:38] the side or rear property line such as

[31:40] the ADU. So, um so, that's all I have to

[31:42] report at this time.

[31:46] » Graham, I'm going to be there.

[31:47] >> Yeah.

[31:48] >> Um question, as you see long-term trends

[31:52] as you compile these

[31:54] monthly.

[31:55] Um

[31:57] at what point do you

[32:00] feel that we are

[32:02] you know, over indexing on ADUs and at

[32:05] the detriment of fewer new single-family

[32:07] home permits?

[32:08] >> Um well, I just think I don't know if

[32:11] it's to the detriment of single-family

[32:13] dwellings, it's just a matter of

[32:15] you know,

[32:17] most properties are developed. Um you

[32:20] know, the the vacant properties have a

[32:22] lot of challenges

[32:24] uh and so, um so, really when we see new

[32:26] single-family dwellings, it's usually

[32:28] replacing an existing one. It's a kind

[32:30] of a larger project that most people may

[32:32] be not ready to undertake. Um whereas

[32:35] uh now that there's more flexibility for

[32:37] ADUs and we allow more ADUs and state

[32:39] law requires more ADUs on properties.

[32:43] Um, that's why we probably see a much

[32:45] higher uptick in ADUs than single-family

[32:48] dwellings. We do really hope to get more

[32:50] single-family dwellings. We need to hit

[32:51] those numbers.

[32:53] Um, we still are moving forward with

[32:55] looking at, you know, how to get the

[32:57] multi-family housing accomplished. Um,

[32:59] it's important that Woodside has varied

[33:01] types of housing, even if we are getting

[33:03] close to hitting our numbers. Um, so

[33:05] there's a couple different things that

[33:06] we have to look at.

[33:10] Um, it's being processed. They they have

[33:14] submitted for a uh, subdivision, so

[33:16] that's what we are processing.

[33:18] Uh, they don't have a specific proposal

[33:20] to actually do construction, but they

[33:23] propose one multi-family site and 10

[33:25] single-family residential sites um, as

[33:27] part of the roughly 9 acres

[33:30] um, that they have out there.

[33:32] And the multi-family the target in the

[33:34] housing element is for 16,

[33:37] um, although it is zoned for 20 units

[33:40] per acre and it would do it 1 acre, so

[33:43] they if they wanted to, they could make

[33:45] it a little bit more dense than what the

[33:46] target was for um, housing, but at this

[33:49] time we're just processing the cutting

[33:51] up of the land. And so if they chose to

[33:54] whether they choose to or a future owner

[33:56] chooses to do the kind of the

[33:58] construction aspect, uh, we would review

[34:00] those details at that time.

[34:04] Uh, they they are they've received their

[34:06] permit for their

[34:09] driveway/roadway. The reason I say it

[34:11] that way is the final map hasn't been

[34:13] technically recorded yet, but they are

[34:15] to

[34:16] uh, complete the construction of the

[34:17] roadway and um, so that is underway.

[34:20] >> They said that they're going to sell

[34:22] those lots, is that right?

[34:23] >> Um, they there's seven lots and whether

[34:27] they choose to develop them or sell them

[34:29] individually or sell them all to one

[34:31] person.

[34:33] That remains to be seen.

[34:35] My understanding at least from the

[34:36] applicant this time is that they are

[34:39] looking to sell them. They don't plan on

[34:40] developing them themselves.

[34:43] Yeah, yeah, yes. Yes.

[34:46] Yeah, whether it's one owner or not.

[34:48] Yes, they would come under separate

[34:50] permits.

[34:52] Good.

[34:53] >> Those numbers are already calculated

[34:55] basically seven

[34:56] >> No, those are cuz that's just cutting up

[34:59] the land. So, once they come in for

[35:02] permits, that's when we can we issue the

[35:04] permits, that's when we can count them.

[35:11] Okay,

[35:12] thank you, Sage.

[35:13] All right, with that I'll close the

[35:14] meeting at 5:05 p.m.

Architectural and Site Review Board Meeting - June 15, 2026

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