[0:05] So, good evening everyone and welcome to

[0:08] the July meeting of the Committee of

[0:10] Adjustments. Before we begin, I will

[0:13] call the meeting to order and I look for

[0:15] a motion to move that the July 8th, 2026

[0:19] Committee of Adjustment meeting be

[0:20] called to order at 7:00 p.m. Can I get a

[0:23] motion to move that?

[0:26] » So moved.

[0:27] » Moved by Ms. Kohler, seconded by Mr.

[0:30] Miller.

[0:31] That's all right, I'll take you as a

[0:32] second.

[0:33] All in favor?

[0:35] » Yes.

[0:36] » That motion is carried. At this time,

[0:41] I'd like to ask Mr. Roth to read our

[0:43] territorial acknowledgement.

[0:47] » We have gathered in Wilmot Township on

[0:49] the traditional territory of the

[0:51] neutral, the Anishinaabe, and the

[0:53] Hodenausonee, and the Mississaugas

[0:55] peoples.

[0:56] We also want to acknowledge the

[0:58] importance of the dish with one spoon

[1:01] covenant, a peace agreement made between

[1:04] indigenous nations before the Europeans

[1:07] arrived. It characterizes our collective

[1:10] responsibility to to each other and

[1:13] Mother Earth. We should take only what

[1:16] we need, leave enough for others, and

[1:19] keep the dish clean.

[1:21] By acknowledging this covenant and the

[1:23] First Nations, the Métis, the Inuit

[1:25] peoples, we are reminded of the

[1:28] important connection to this land where

[1:30] we live, learn, and work together as a

[1:34] community.

[1:37] » Thank you, Mr. Roth.

[1:39] I would like to introduce the committee

[1:41] this evening. With us is Mr. Miller, Ms.

[1:44] Kohler,

[1:46] Mr. Roth.

[1:47] With us as well as Mr. Cameron Miller,

[1:50] our planner for the Township.

[1:52] My name is Tyler Bowman and I'm the

[1:54] chair of uh, this committee.

[1:56] We are an independent body appointed by

[1:59] Welland Township Council. We have the

[2:01] power to make minor changes, uh, to

[2:04] existing zoning regulations and to

[2:06] approve some changes to existing

[2:08] non-conforming uses and to give consent.

[2:12] Each applicant will be notified in

[2:14] writing of the decision,

[2:16] um, within 10 days.

[2:19] With the decision will be instructions

[2:21] of how [clears throat] the how it can be

[2:22] appealed.

[2:24] Any decisions made by this committee can

[2:25] be appealed to the Ontario Land

[2:27] Tribunal, who will then hold a meeting

[2:30] and make a final decision. Only the

[2:32] applicant and certain prescribed public

[2:35] agencies can appeal the committee's

[2:37] decision.

[2:38] If the decision on a minor variance is

[2:40] not appealed, it becomes final and

[2:42] binding after 20 days from the date of

[2:45] this meeting.

[2:46] If the decision on a minor variance is

[2:49] not appealed, it becomes final and

[2:51] binding after 20 days from the date of

[2:54] the decision is mailed.

[2:57] The format for this evening will be as

[2:59] follows. Uh, Mr. Miller will introduce

[3:01] the applications.

[3:03] Uh, the applicant will then be invited

[3:05] to come forward and add any additional

[3:07] information they choose. Following this,

[3:10] anyone in the audience with will have

[3:12] the opportunity to speak for or against

[3:15] this application.

[3:16] The committee members may then question

[3:19] the applicant and the committee will

[3:22] then make a decision. So, as Mr. Miller,

[3:25] uh, previously noted with our virtual

[3:27] conversation when I asked for applicants

[3:29] from, uh, the community that would like

[3:32] to speak or the applicate applicant

[3:34] themselves, please raise your hand in

[3:36] the online there and Mr. Miller will

[3:39] bring you into the conversation, um, uh,

[3:42] for that time. We will keep it to 7

[3:44] minutes maximum for each individual

[3:46] through that time.

[3:48] Uh, at which point we'll ask you to wrap

[3:52] up and and we'll move on to the next

[3:54] individual.

[3:55] Uh

[3:56] to start this meeting, I'd like to ask

[3:58] are there any disclosures of pecuniary

[4:00] interest under the Municipal Conflict of

[4:02] Interest Act?

[4:05] » No.

[4:05] » Seeing none, uh at this time, I'd like

[4:07] to our first quarter of business will be

[4:10] to approve our minutes from our last

[4:12] meeting. Can I get a motion to approve

[4:14] those minutes?

[4:17] Moved by Mr. Rose, seconded by Mr.

[4:20] Kohler.

[4:21] All in favor?

[4:23] And those minutes, that motion is

[4:24] carried.

[4:26] And so, we'll move on to the applicant

[4:28] applications tonight. Uh Mr. Miller,

[4:30] could you please introduce our first

[4:32] application?

[4:33] » Uh yes, thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

[4:35] Um the first application this evening is

[4:37] A10/26

[4:39] and it's concerning 226 Shade Street in

[4:41] New Hamburg and it's a variance to the

[4:43] fence bylaw.

[4:44] Uh so, this application's proposing to

[4:46] increase the maximum allowable fence

[4:48] height from 1.98 m to approximately 2.44

[4:52] m. And so, that's uh again, 6 ft 6 to uh

[4:56] 8 ft.

[4:57] Um so, the fence bylaw establishes a

[4:59] maximum fence height um in in rear and

[5:02] side yards of again, 6 ft 6 or 1.98 m.

[5:05] Um through this process, there is an

[5:07] opportunity to look at a review proposal

[5:09] on a case-by-case basis.

[5:12] Um which the fence bylaw allows for

[5:14] minor variances uh or variances to the

[5:16] fence bylaw.

[5:18] Uh staff have previously supported

[5:20] requests uh with an increase of up to 8

[5:22] ft on interior lot boundaries on the on

[5:25] the condition that

[5:26] uh abutting neighbors uh do not have any

[5:28] concerns. And staff would suggest that

[5:30] probably one of the main tests, uh if

[5:32] not only one of the tests of a of

[5:34] variance to the fence bylaw would be

[5:37] uh what the uh residents who directly

[5:39] share that fence feel about an increase

[5:41] in height. So, ultimately, it's the

[5:43] responsibility of of uh staff to make a

[5:45] recommendation to the committee based on

[5:47] the intent of the bylaw, which that is

[5:49] uh uh what staff believe to be the

[5:51] intent, and ultimately decisions made by

[5:53] the committee.

[5:54] Um [snorts] there was a a sketch

[5:56] attached to the report uh which

[5:58] illustrates the boundaries at which the

[6:00] fence increase height was proposed,

[6:02] which is essentially the entire

[6:03] perimeter

[6:04] um of the of the property.

[6:07] At the time of publishing the report as

[6:09] well as the provided deadline, uh which

[6:11] was July the 2nd in which comments were

[6:13] to be provided, we did not receive any

[6:15] comments.

[6:16] Um so the recommendation this evening is

[6:18] is based on having received zero

[6:21] comments.

[6:22] Um but again, since publishing the

[6:24] report, we've been made aware of some

[6:25] concerns um

[6:27] of of some surrounding neighbors

[6:29] potentially on the potential increase um

[6:32] height in in fence. Um

[6:35] So again, as as noted in the report, um

[6:38] staff's ability to support an increase

[6:40] in height on particular areas of the

[6:42] property would waver if if that adjacent

[6:45] neighbor had issues.

[6:47] Um

[6:48] that is to say that staff would look at

[6:50] potentially a section-by-section

[6:53] increase in height if certain neighbors

[6:55] um are in favor as this property abuts

[6:59] um

[6:59] you know, almost uh five or six

[7:01] properties individually. So again, we

[7:03] would look at it from a staff

[7:04] perspective what individual neighbors

[7:06] feel if they have concerns. Um

[7:09] and um I'm happy to answer any

[7:11] questions, but again, the recommend

[7:12] recommendation provided tonight is to

[7:14] approve of it for the entirety perimeter

[7:16] cuz again, as time of publishing the

[7:18] report, we did not receive um any any

[7:21] concerns written in um in time for

[7:24] publishing.

[7:26] » Thank you, Mr. Miller. Uh I'm going to

[7:28] ask if the applicant would like to speak

[7:30] on behalf of this application, and if

[7:32] so,

[7:34] uh please bring them into the meeting.

[7:36] » So I'll just ask um

[7:38] the applicant, uh if if would like to

[7:41] speak um that you use the raise hand

[7:44] function, Uh

[7:45] um

[7:47] Okay.

[7:49] Um sorry, if you could you just raise

[7:50] your hand one more time cuz it un-raised

[7:52] and there was two people with the same

[7:54] name. Yep.

[7:56] Okay, so I'm just going to bring you in

[7:58] um here as a panelist and um as uh Mr.

[8:02] Bowman has indicated, uh you'll have 7

[8:05] minutes to

[8:06] um discuss and

[8:09] I'll just ask that you unmute your mic

[8:11] and if you could turn your video on if

[8:13] it's available.

[8:15] » Uh

[8:16] can you hear us okay?

[8:17] » We can hear you, but we cannot see you.

[8:19] » Uh I'm trying to figure out how to start

[8:22] video. Sorry, just give us a second.

[8:24] » That's okay.

[8:25] » Can you hear us now?

[8:26] » Yep, now we can see the three of you.

[8:28] Yep.

[8:29] » Okay.

[8:29] » Hi, good evening everyone and thank you

[8:31] for taking um the time to join us today.

[8:35] Um

[8:36] uh my name's Kumari Singh and um I'm a

[8:40] family physician licensed in both Canada

[8:42] and the United States. My husband Aman

[8:44] and um and I are raising three daughters

[8:48] um ranging age from two to six

[8:51] and we are

[8:52] and we are in the process of relocating

[8:54] from the Chicago area to New Hamburg as

[8:58] we embrace a quieter, family-oriented

[9:00] lifestyle and a place where we can see

[9:03] our children growing up um for many

[9:06] years to come.

[9:07] Uh we sincerely appreciate everyone

[9:09] taking the time to join us this evening.

[9:12] Uh being good neighbors is very

[9:13] important to us and we wanted to have an

[9:16] open conversation before our committee

[9:18] hearing.

[9:19] Um Our goal tonight is simply to explain

[9:22] why we're requesting this variance,

[9:24] answer any questions that you may have

[9:26] and hear any feedback or any concerns.

[9:29] Um

[9:30] That's my daughter in the background if

[9:32] you're hearing that, so I apologize. Let

[9:34] me know if it's hard to focus.

[9:37] Um

[9:39] So, we're requesting a minor variance to

[9:41] allow an additional 17 in of fence

[9:44] height beyond the permitted 6 ft 6 in.

[9:47] Our request is driven by the unique

[9:49] characteristics of our property and not

[9:51] really and not by a desire to build an

[9:54] unusually tall fence. Um our home is

[9:57] situated on a significant slope. Um

[9:59] because of the elevation changes, a

[10:01] fence built to the permitted height does

[10:03] not provide the same level of privacy or

[10:06] security that it would on a level lot.

[10:09] Um even with a compliant fence, our

[10:12] backyard, including our pool, gazebo,

[10:14] and family recreation area remains

[10:17] clearly visible to the surrounding

[10:19] properties. Um an additional 17 in would

[10:22] simply compensate for the topography and

[10:25] provide a more consistent level of

[10:27] privacy and a greater sense of security

[10:30] throughout the yard.

[10:32] Privacy and security are equally

[10:34] important to our family. Um our backyard

[10:37] is where we um spend most of our time

[10:40] together. We have the pool, the gazebo,

[10:43] the outdoor living space, and

[10:45] occasionally we do spend time in private

[10:47] religious meditation and prayer. We

[10:49] wanted to create a space where our

[10:50] family can relax, spend time together,

[10:52] enjoy these moments without feeling

[10:54] exposed. Um I am often the only adult in

[10:58] our home while my husband's away for

[11:00] work. Our property is quite large and

[11:03] the backyard and surrounding areas have

[11:05] limited lighting at night. And we ex-

[11:07] we've experienced um theft from our

[11:10] building materials during construction.

[11:13] Um while the slope is the primary reason

[11:15] for this variance, these experiences

[11:18] have reinforced the importance of

[11:19] creating a backyard where our family

[11:21] feels both private and secure. The

[11:24] proposed fence will be professionally

[11:26] constructed, well maintained, and

[11:28] located entirely on our property. It

[11:31] will not affect traffic visibility,

[11:33] public safety, or access to neighboring

[11:36] properties. We have also received letter

[11:38] letters of support from three immediate

[11:41] neighboring property owners who share a

[11:43] fence line with our property. We truly

[11:45] appreciate their support and willingness

[11:48] to take time to understand our request.

[11:51] Um and we understand that not everyone

[11:53] may share the same opinion and we do

[11:55] respect that. Our hope is that everyone

[11:58] will consider the unique topography of

[12:00] our property and the limited impact of

[12:02] this modest 17-in inch variance. We

[12:05] believe that it is a reasonable solution

[12:08] that allows our family to safely and

[12:10] privately enjoy our home while

[12:12] continuing to be respectful to the

[12:14] neighbors.

[12:15] Um thank you again for taking the time

[12:17] to join us this evening. We truly

[12:19] appreciate your willingness to listen.

[12:21] We're happy to answer any questions or

[12:22] discuss any concerns. We hope that this

[12:25] is the beginning of many positive

[12:27] conversations and lasting friendship

[12:29] with our neighbors. We look forward to

[12:31] being a part community for many, many

[12:33] years to come.

[12:37] » Thank you.

[12:38] » Yes, I thank you. I appreciate the

[12:41] conversation. Our The next step here is

[12:44] to invite other

[12:46] members of the community that would like

[12:48] to speak for or against and then we'll

[12:49] come back if we have any questions to

[12:51] yourselves, but I appreciate that.

[12:53] » Unless there's any committee members

[12:55] that have questions at at this time.

[12:58] » It might be more effective in this form.

[13:00] I appreciate that, Mr. Mayor.

[13:03] Other questions from the committee?

[13:05] Yeah, go ahead, Mr. Ruth.

[13:06] » Um yes, uh thank you, Mr. Chair. Um I do

[13:10] have one question. Um obviously um

[13:13] uh having visited the site, I would

[13:17] assume uh a question to the uh to the

[13:20] owners

[13:21] that about 90% of the fence is already

[13:24] constructed. Am I correct in that?

[13:27] » Uh

[13:28] it is uh 6.6 and 90% 6.6 I can say. It's

[13:33] not 90% I would say 80% 6.6 is done.

[13:37] » Yeah, about that. Yeah, you'll have to

[13:39] excuse my math. I'm just guessing at it.

[13:41] » [laughter]

[13:42] » But but but but the great majority the

[13:44] biggest majority of the fence is already

[13:46] constructed. Am I correct in

[13:48] » It's not It's not

[13:50] It's 2 2 6.6 6.6.

[13:53] » Yeah, so it's under the It's basically

[13:56] within the compliance limit.

[13:59] » Could you repeat that, please?

[14:00] » So So I'm saying like the fence is

[14:02] complete about 80% but the height

[14:05] 6 in. We are just waiting for the

[14:08] committee's decision before we go

[14:10] further.

[14:11] » Yes, I'm aware of that. Okay, thank you.

[14:14] » Mhm.

[14:16] » Are there any other questions for the

[14:18] applicant?

[14:20] Not at this time. Okay, thank you.

[14:23] Are there others Mr. Miller that would

[14:25] like to speak for or against the

[14:26] application?

[14:27] » [clears throat]

[14:27] » So I would I would ask at this time

[14:30] people use the raise hand function. So

[14:34] Mr. Funk has raised their hand. So I

[14:38] will go in order

[14:39] of hands that have been raised and I

[14:41] will just make note of people that have

[14:42] spoken.

[14:44] So that we aren't promoting

[14:47] temporarily I'm going to um

[14:50] change the

[14:52] um applicant as a simply an attendee.

[14:56] Um just one second, please.

[14:59] » While Mr. Miller is doing that, if

[15:01] you're speaking

[15:03] to the application, please introduce

[15:05] yourself, your name, and [clears throat]

[15:07] your address. On this one is important.

[15:25] » Okay.

[15:26] Um we can see you

[15:28] Mr. Funk and Mrs. Funk presumably um

[15:32] in the meeting here. Um so again I'm

[15:34] sorry I'll let Tyler take over there.

[15:36] » No, that's all right. Welcome.

[15:39] I'm going to give you 7 minutes to

[15:41] speak. If you need that full time,

[15:43] please take it. If not, we'll we'll go

[15:45] forward. But you can just introduce

[15:47] yourself, your full name, and the

[15:48] address for the record. That'd be great.

[15:50] And then please go ahead.

[15:53] » Thanks. Can everybody hear me?

[15:55] Okay, thank you.

[15:57] Yeah, so so my name is Steve Funk. My

[15:59] wife Tammy and I we live at 216 Shade

[16:02] Street. So we are

[16:04] immediately abutting the

[16:07] neighbors to the to the west of us to

[16:09] 226.

[16:11] And we share a common boundary of about

[16:14] 525

[16:16] feet approximately.

[16:19] Um and so

[16:20] and

[16:22] first of all

[16:23] Kamari and Aman this is the first time

[16:25] I'm seeing you. So

[16:27] welcome to the neighborhood.

[16:28] And

[16:30] unfortunately we're seeing under these

[16:31] circumstances but

[16:33] but I I just want to make it clear that

[16:35] we do not support this.

[16:39] And we object to an increase in the

[16:42] bylaw.

[16:43] We respect the bylaw. We respect the

[16:45] right of anybody to build a fence

[16:47] as long as you keep it on your side of

[16:49] the line. Follow the rules. You know,

[16:52] build a nice fence.

[16:54] There's nothing we can do about that.

[16:56] Historically

[16:58] this neighborhood has not had fences of

[17:00] this nature. There's a few fences in the

[17:02] neighborhood but

[17:03] none of them are this height or scale.

[17:06] I don't want to argue too much back and

[17:09] forth but but there's a an awful lot of

[17:12] the fence that's already constructed

[17:13] that is above the 6 and 1/2 feet.

[17:17] Some some sections even go close to 9

[17:20] ft. Uh,

[17:21] that's that that's according to my

[17:23] measurements uh

[17:24] uh how I reach and my tape measure

[17:27] reaches.

[17:28] So, that that's neither here nor there

[17:30] that but to Mr. Roth's question, you

[17:33] know, that is a reality of what has

[17:35] happened here.

[17:36] So,

[17:37] uh we

[17:39] in in short, I I don't think we have to

[17:41] justify make arguments as to why we do

[17:44] not want a large fence, a high fence.

[17:47] Uh, the bylaws there for a reason.

[17:51] Uh,

[17:52] I was not around when the bylaw

[17:53] [clears throat] was created. I don't

[17:54] know if anybody in this meeting was. Uh,

[17:57] but it's it I would expect it would be

[17:59] to preserve general

[18:02] neighborhood appearances,

[18:04] uh aesthetics, uh you know, just general

[18:07] community sightlines. Uh,

[18:10] a fence of this nature especially

[18:12] uh

[18:14] in the location that it is it it

[18:16] basically uh it divides a lot of the

[18:20] neighborhood from each other.

[18:22] And

[18:23] and so I I don't uh I don't support we

[18:26] don't support the higher fence.

[18:28] Uh, in in the same way that uh

[18:31] you know, Raj Kumari and money you're

[18:33] you're entitled to do the application

[18:35] for

[18:36] a an increased height.

[18:38] We are exercising our right to indicate

[18:41] we do not want it.

[18:43] That that's that's my submission.

[18:46] » Thank you, Mr. Funk.

[18:48] Um are there any questions for for him

[18:51] from the committee

[18:53] prior to

[18:54] Mr. Roth?

[18:55] » Uh, thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, to Mr.

[18:58] Funk and and visiting that neighborhood

[19:00] and and knowing the neighborhood uh

[19:03] fairly well, uh you did make the comment

[19:06] that um

[19:08] in my observation the neighborhood is

[19:10] generally free of of fencing uh you know

[19:15] for a very large area. Am I correct in

[19:18] that assumption?

[19:19] » You are. The there is the neighbors

[19:23] 210, I think 210 Shade Street

[19:27] our house in the and the applicant's

[19:30] house is fairly set back from the road

[19:32] and there are houses close to Shade

[19:35] Street and so right in front of my house

[19:37] there there are two neighborhood uh

[19:40] the two neighbors that have fences but

[19:42] they they are six and six feet six and a

[19:44] half feet high.

[19:45] Um and so they do there are a few fences

[19:48] in the area.

[19:49] » Okay. Thank you.

[19:52] » Okay.

[19:54] Mr. Miller, are there other

[19:56] individuals that would like to speak?

[19:58] Thank you, Mr. Funk for your time.

[20:01] » Thank you.

[20:02] » So, I will proceed with

[20:04] uh uh

[20:06] change Mr. Funk to an attendee again and

[20:09] we will move on to the next person.

[20:12] Uh which which is in line um just in way

[20:16] of my screen so I apologize if you feel

[20:18] like you put your hand up sooner than

[20:19] someone else but we'll go the next

[20:21] person will be Mr. Thrower.

[20:23] Um so I will promote you to a panelist

[20:26] and same instructions would apply.

[20:28] » Yeah. Thank you. Please just full name

[20:31] and your address and once you're in

[20:36] we'll give you seven minutes.

[20:44] You are unmuted. If you're able to turn

[20:47] your camera on that would be appreciated

[20:49] as well.

[20:50] Welcome.

[20:52] » All right. There we go.

[20:54] Okay. Should be good now.

[20:56] » Yep. We can see you.

[20:58] » My name is Dugan Thrower.

[21:00] Married with Christina Thrower as well.

[21:01] We've lived here for 18 years.

[21:03] Brocksway.

[21:05] Um we live at 234 Shade Shade Street

[21:08] which is east of uh the property here at

[21:10] 226.

[21:12] Um, I'm here to oppose the request

[21:15] um, for the variance increase.

[21:18] Um,

[21:19] I have a 100-ft fence that they're

[21:21] constructing against my driveway.

[21:23] Raising the fence career uh

[21:26] creates severe practical issues for my

[21:28] residence. Winter snow drift,

[21:31] the wall like the way the snow comes in,

[21:33] it blows. I've nowhere to get rid of it

[21:35] when it's an 8-ft fence.

[21:38] Um,

[21:39] on hindsight, it adds child safety to my

[21:42] matter. So, I got to push all the snow

[21:43] to the edge.

[21:44] K- creates drifts

[21:46] and higher already. And with our street

[21:48] being speed deal or uh

[21:52] with traffic and being the speed that it

[21:54] is and no sidewalks,

[21:57] I'm concerned with the child safety with

[21:58] the kids doing walking, biking, bus

[22:00] stops, all that fun stuff.

[22:04] Um,

[22:05] so drivers usually can't see the kids

[22:06] when it comes to the high drifts. I know

[22:08] like certain parts in town you can see

[22:10] cuz they have sidewalks.

[22:12] We're a different entity out here on

[22:13] Shade Street.

[22:15] Um,

[22:16] I lived here, I moved here because I

[22:18] felt like it was a country feel.

[22:20] A massive 8-ft fence completely disrupts

[22:23] our open rural landscape in the

[22:25] neighborhood, trading our welcome

[22:26] country field to an aggressive closed-in

[22:28] barrier.

[22:29] If privacy was a main concern here,

[22:32] it is already being looked after. The

[22:33] rear and side of my property has large

[22:36] trees that go beyond the height of

[22:37] that's requested.

[22:40] Which already provide a beautiful

[22:41] privacy without compromising safety in

[22:43] turn. I ask that you protect the

[22:45] community character and the safety of

[22:46] our children

[22:49] by uh denying this variance. Thank you.

[22:55] » Thank you.

[22:56] Um, are there any questions for this

[22:59] » [clears throat]

[22:59] » From the committee?

[23:02] See Say none. Um thank you for joining

[23:05] us. Uh we will uh move to the next

[23:09] individual that would like to speak. Um

[23:11] » [clears throat]

[23:12] » But appreciate your time.

[23:16] » Okay, and the uh next uh person to be

[23:19] promoted as a panelist is uh

[23:22] Jasmine Clark.

[23:27] » Just a quick reminder to introduce

[23:29] yourself, your name, and your address.

[23:33] Uh and we'll have 7 minutes starting

[23:35] once you're in.

[23:36] Um you're currently uh on mute, and

[23:40] [clears throat] if you can turn your

[23:40] camera on, that'd be appreciated.

[23:51] Are you able to take yourself off mute?

[23:58] » So, uh in the bottom left-hand corner,

[24:00] there'll be a microphone symbol and a

[24:03] video camera symbol. You

[24:05] You've unmuted yourself now.

[24:07] Um

[24:08] » Yeah.

[24:09] » Okay, we can hear you, but we cannot see

[24:11] you. So, if you're able to turn your

[24:12] video on, that'd be appreciated.

[24:14] » Okay, so now how do I turn on the video?

[24:17] Start video.

[24:18] » Yep, there'll be a video camera symbol

[24:20] on the bottom left. Um there you are.

[24:23] Okay, great.

[24:25] » Um I'm just I'm just getting in cuz I've

[24:27] met Raj today and I met um her

[24:29] son-in-law. And uh I have I actually

[24:32] walked straight up to the house.

[24:35] And um

[24:37] I can see where they're going from.

[24:38] Their backyard, still even with that

[24:40] fence right now, is not overly private.

[24:43] Um I'm not sure if it's Mr. Funk that's

[24:45] on the side of them, but yeah, he can

[24:47] definitely see right into their

[24:48] backyard. So,

[24:50] um I'm not saying that the whole fence

[24:52] has to go 8 ft, but um like definitely

[24:55] like they spoke like maybe certain

[24:56] areas.

[24:59] They could bring it up to 8 ft.

[25:06] » And sorry, just for the record, where

[25:07] are you located?

[25:09] » Thank you.

[25:09] » I'm at 1099 Pearl Street, just around

[25:12] the corner, actually.

[25:14] » Thank you.

[25:17] » Sorry.

[25:18] » [clears throat]

[25:19] » That's okay.

[25:19] » No, I appreciate it.

[25:21] » Um yeah, they seem like very delightful

[25:23] people. I can understand they have three

[25:25] small girls. I can understand why they

[25:26] want the privacy. I also understand

[25:29] where they're coming from whenever they

[25:30] say that there's

[25:32] there are many yards that back right

[25:34] onto their yard, so they're giving them

[25:35] privacy also from them

[25:38] from doing what they say that they like

[25:40] to do also in their spare time.

[25:42] So, yeah, I'm not in disagreement with

[25:45] it. I feel they should be allowed to do

[25:47] it or at least like they mentioned

[25:50] certain areas.

[25:54] » Thank you. Are there any questions for

[25:57] Mrs. Clark?

[26:01] Seeing none, thank you again for your

[26:02] time and and the support. We'll move on

[26:05] to

[26:07] any Is it I guess is there others that

[26:08] would like to speak Mr. Miller?

[26:11] » Uh yes, the

[26:14] next person would be

[26:16] It's just listed as Fred here.

[26:18] So, I'll just be promoting you in a

[26:20] brief second.

[26:28] Okay, Fred has declined to be promoted

[26:32] as a panelist. I will just do it one

[26:34] more time in case it was an accident

[26:36] because you've have your hand raised. If

[26:38] you do not wish to be added, that's it's

[26:39] no problem. You can just decline it once

[26:41] more.

[26:46] And they've are now joining.

[26:53] » Welcome, Fred. Again, uh you are on

[26:55] mute. Uh please introduce yourself with

[26:58] your full name and your the address you

[27:00] reside at.

[27:01] Uh and once you're going there, we will

[27:04] get the time started. If you can turn

[27:07] your camera on, please please do. That

[27:09] would be appreciated.

[27:13] » I don't know what this is.

[27:15] Do we press the left button?

[27:17] » Yeah, there should be a a video camera

[27:19] symbol on the bottom left-hand corner.

[27:22] » We don't see it.

[27:24] We don't see it.

[27:25] » If not, we Yeah, we can hear you. So.

[27:28] » Okay.

[27:29] Uh my name's Fred Gates. Uh we've lived

[27:31] here since 2005.

[27:34] We live at 231 Perth. So, I'm the

[27:37] neighbor in the rear of the fence.

[27:41] Uh I get the long uh uh

[27:44] length of the back of the fence. And we

[27:47] object to the the height of the fence.

[27:50] Uh

[27:52] basically, we agree with Mr. Funkin that

[27:55] we're seeing kind of the same uh as far

[27:58] as the fence line is concerned. We've

[28:01] been here, like I said, uh through no

[28:03] fences at all and then the chain-link

[28:05] fence prior to this

[28:07] uh fence. And we are we were we moved

[28:10] here because of the open area. There is

[28:14] a chain-link fence to the uh north of

[28:17] us, but other than that, it's an open

[28:18] area to the railroad

[28:20] uh area in the back. And then to the

[28:23] front in the the uh east, almost all the

[28:26] way to the river.

[28:28] Uh we appreciate the idea that they need

[28:30] to have privacy. But at the other side

[28:34] of that is if you were up here looking

[28:36] what I'm looking at right now, I see a

[28:38] great big wall of wood. Um and so, I

[28:41] don't see any reason why it needs to be

[28:43] higher than the

[28:45] the maximum allowed by the by the board,

[28:48] I guess I'd say it that

[28:50] Um we also are on the

[28:53] uh the edge of the survey line, and so

[28:56] the concrete that was poured for the

[28:58] fencing is also

[29:01] um in our yard uh and or is higher than

[29:05] our yard itself. So, something needs to

[29:08] be done with the ability for that to be

[29:10] uh taken down, not covered up, because

[29:13] we we all have problems with the

[29:15] drainage here from the railroad crossing

[29:18] down. Uh so um

[29:20] um concerned about that as well, but the

[29:22] fence line uh

[29:24] I would object to that. So, that's what

[29:28] That's that's it.

[29:30] » Thank you.

[29:32] Are there any questions prior to moving

[29:35] to the next individual?

[29:39] Seeing none, thank [clears throat] you

[29:41] uh for your conversation there, uh Mr.

[29:43] Miller. Are there others that are

[29:45] interested in speaking for or against?

[29:46] » Yep.

[29:47] » Yep.

[29:48] » Just um 1 second.

[29:52] Uh next individual is uh listed here as

[29:54] Bart.

[30:02] » I do recognize that uh this is a little

[30:04] bit repetitive, but just a reminder to

[30:07] uh state your name and your address. Uh

[30:10] and once you're in uh

[30:13] if your camera can be turned on, that

[30:14] would be appreciated. And at the moment

[30:18] uh you're muted. There we go.

[30:21] Thank you and welcome.

[30:26] » Um yes, my name is Bart Van Handel. I

[30:29] live

[30:31] at uh 241 Shade Street.

[30:34] So, we are across the street on Shade

[30:38] Street from 226 Shade. And I think

[30:42] probably one house

[30:45] to the west.

[30:47] Uh so not directly across, but but um

[30:51] almost. Um

[30:53] so I guess

[30:58] Yeah.

[30:59] We had moved here in uh 1982. In fact,

[31:03] the Shade Street was even uh still

[31:05] gravel at that point.

[31:07] Um and yeah, we moved here um for

[31:11] it being having a rural um

[31:14] I guess village town feel.

[31:17] Um

[31:19] very few fences um

[31:22] here.

[31:24] Um

[31:26] So I guess the the the first impression

[31:29] that I get when

[31:30] when I look at the

[31:33] the stone wall on or the concrete wall

[31:35] on Shade Street and and the steel gates

[31:38] is and then the the and the

[31:41] well, even the 6-ft 6 fence

[31:44] all around I guess the long driveway

[31:46] back to the I think the property's in

[31:48] L-shape. Anyway, it it looks like like a

[31:51] gated community and which is

[31:54] far from what um

[31:57] what uh New Hamburg has been about.

[32:01] Um

[32:03] So

[32:05] yeah, it's it just changes the

[32:08] character of the neighborhood in

[32:11] general.

[32:13] Um I do sympathize with Dugan. Um

[32:18] especially because he has I think he has

[32:20] 60-ft frontage, but

[32:23] um

[32:25] Yes, I

[32:27] having been here this many years um

[32:30] the

[32:31] the prevailing winds are from the west

[32:33] and uh that fence will

[32:36] lock in snow for him and so has quite a

[32:38] bit of snow to move

[32:40] move around and and and so on. Anyway,

[32:44] and then if you move it from 6 ft 6 to 8

[32:46] ft

[32:48] yeah, it just

[32:50] to me if if I were in his shoes, it

[32:52] would feel really boxed in.

[32:55] So

[32:56] um

[32:58] Yes. Now, having said that

[33:01] absolutely we welcome new people to the

[33:03] neighborhood and um we're [laughter]

[33:06] we're very happy to have have new

[33:08] neighbors and whatnot. Any of the

[33:11] neighbors that were in the house we all

[33:12] that particular house we've always had

[33:14] very friendly relations with and we hope

[33:16] that will be the situation.

[33:19] Um I can

[33:21] uh appreciate that um

[33:25] you know, they're in Chicago and

[33:27] um but in the Chicago area perhaps

[33:31] fencing and

[33:33] gating is maybe more common there, but

[33:36] this is a a very friendly and very safe

[33:39] community.

[33:40] Um people look out look out for each

[33:43] other, so

[33:44] um

[33:46] Anyway, I would I would like to welcome

[33:48] the the neighbors um

[33:50] the new neighbors to 226 Shade Street,

[33:52] but

[33:54] I guess I've just expressed how this I

[33:57] guess impacts us um and the impression

[33:59] it leaves. So, that's that's it.

[34:03] » Thank you.

[34:04] Uh any questions

[34:07] from the committee? [clears throat]

[34:10] Did I unmute myself? Any questions from

[34:12] the committee? No.

[34:14] Okay. Thank you again for your time.

[34:16] Uh we will move to the next individual

[34:19] that's interested in

[34:21] speaking.

[34:26] » Uh as of right now there is isn't anyone

[34:29] with their

[34:30] hands raised. I would um

[34:32] Mr. Mackie has just raised his hand, so

[34:34] I will

[34:36] um

[34:36] promote and then the applicant has also

[34:39] raised, but after all the people in the

[34:41] audience, virtual audience have spoken,

[34:43] we'll give the applicant

[34:45] another opportunity.

[34:46] Yeah.

[34:47] Okay, Mr. Mackie's been promoted. Just

[34:50] 1 second.

[34:58] » Just again, if you can

[35:00] turn your camera on and

[35:03] unmute, you got it. 7 minutes. Thank

[35:05] you.

[35:07] » I

[35:08] I just figured out how to do that.

[35:10] Literally the second.

[35:13] Um

[35:15] Right off the bat, I would I'd be more

[35:17] than happy to welcome

[35:19] our new neighbors. They're fantastic.

[35:21] I've met all of them.

[35:22] Um

[35:24] I I think I would start my comments with

[35:27] the regret that all of the fencing and

[35:30] the concrete gates and things at the at

[35:32] the front of the

[35:34] of the property

[35:37] got installed before there was any

[35:39] discussion whatsoever, be it with the

[35:41] township. I don't know if there was a

[35:43] need for a building permit for something

[35:45] like that or not or or if it could have

[35:47] if

[35:48] conversations with the township and the

[35:50] and the neighborhood

[35:52] could have would have taken place.

[35:55] Um

[35:56] just to have this discussion that we're

[35:58] having now

[36:00] prior to

[36:02] the massively costly installation of of

[36:06] what is now physically there and I don't

[36:09] anticipate it's going to be easy to to

[36:11] change that.

[36:13] Had it if I had my

[36:15] » If I may, can you just tell us your

[36:18] address just to get some context?

[36:20] » I'm sorry. Paul Mackie, 182

[36:23] Shade Street.

[36:23] » Okay, thank you.

[36:25] Continue.

[36:26] » I got all excited about fact that I had

[36:27] video and audio.

[36:31] Um, so yeah, I'm just down the street.

[36:33] It the this to be honest it

[36:36] where I am relative to this

[36:38] uh,

[36:39] it doesn't impact me very much. But I do

[36:41] recognize that that there's a bit of a

[36:43] dilemma with with the whole situation.

[36:47] And

[36:49] as I say

[36:50] if if I'm I'm looking at the picture

[36:52] here of the of the property

[36:55] if I were to have had conversations

[36:58] with within the township situation like

[37:01] we're doing right now

[37:03] I would have I would have made a

[37:05] recommendation to

[37:08] essentially go ahead with a

[37:10] personally a 6-ft fence, but with the

[37:12] gate back at the the the neighbor's

[37:15] property line which would put it I don't

[37:17] know 80 ft back

[37:19] from the from the road. Right now we're

[37:21] about 20 whatever the the minimum is I

[37:23] guess 20 ft from the road.

[37:26] That seems to be to me that's the

[37:29] biggest dilemma. Is the imposition

[37:32] of that section of fence on that

[37:35] neighbor.

[37:36] Uh, all of the rest of them there is

[37:38] distance between. It's

[37:39] it is a visibility issue.

[37:42] Um, a visual appeal or not appeal to

[37:45] people's

[37:47] opinion about what they want to look at.

[37:49] But

[37:51] was there any discussion with the

[37:52] township about where

[37:54] they chose to place that concrete the

[37:57] gates?

[37:58] I guess is my question to to you to

[38:00] Tyler and

[38:01] » So if I I may um

[38:04] the the construction of the fence is not

[38:08] something that we can we know Mr. Miller

[38:11] you can add to it on its

[38:13] appropriateness. Um, what we are

[38:15] considering is the change in height the

[38:17] allowance of a 6 sorry 1.98 m fence to a

[38:21] 2.44.

[38:23] The fact that the fence that is there

[38:26] may still exist even without the

[38:29] variance.

[38:30] So that would be something that Mr.

[38:33] Miller if you want to comment on you can

[38:35] but you don't need to.

[38:36] » Um

[38:37] Yeah, thank you Mr. Chair. The only

[38:39] thing I would add is

[38:42] the property owner

[38:44] did confirm

[38:45] where a 6 foot high gate could be

[38:49] constructed.

[38:50] And that is 7.6 meters about 25 feet

[38:53] back from the front property line.

[38:56] Um because it can't exceed

[38:59] um basically

[39:01] .76 meters which is about 2 and 1/2 feet

[39:03] in a front yard. So beyond that distance

[39:06] it can exceed

[39:08] and and be limited at 6.6. What was

[39:10] communicated um there was an opportunity

[39:13] to seek an increase in height through

[39:15] this through this process. Um

[39:19] there is public notification that's

[39:20] given obviously through this process

[39:22] which is how majority of people have

[39:24] come to find out about what is going on.

[39:27] Um however it's it's generally strongly

[39:29] recommended that conversations happen

[39:31] beforehand

[39:32] before filing application

[39:34] and that goes with anything.

[39:37] » Thank you.

[39:37] » Anyway, [clears throat] that that would

[39:38] that would be my that would those would

[39:40] be my my comments and my thoughts. I

[39:44] I regret that those conversations didn't

[39:46] occur

[39:47] because it might have saved a bit of

[39:49] this

[39:50] this grief that's taking place.

[39:53] Um

[39:54] either way given the choice of accepting

[39:57] or or not approving or agreeing with the

[40:00] increase to the the height

[40:02] my thought would be I I would prefer it

[40:05] stays lower. That would if I had to vote

[40:07] on it I would vote to the stay lower.

[40:09] And as I say I've met the neighbors

[40:12] they're they're fantastic. I I don't

[40:13] want any of this to impact the

[40:15] neighborhood opinion of each other.

[40:18] Um

[40:20] let's let's sort this out somehow and uh

[40:23] get a consensus and keep things keep

[40:26] things happy.

[40:28] » Thank you, Mr. Mackey. Are there any

[40:30] questions for

[40:32] from the committee? No.

[40:34] Okay, I appreciate your time. Uh Mr.

[40:36] Miller, are there other individuals from

[40:39] the community that would like to comment

[40:40] or are we going back to the applicant?

[40:44] » Um as of right now, there's no one has

[40:45] their hand raised. I'd give one last

[40:47] opportunity as I know that um

[40:50] and I'm not going to I'm not going to

[40:51] name addresses or anything, but there

[40:53] there's a few properties one property

[40:56] that does abut a section of this fence

[40:58] and uh they are present at the meeting

[41:00] this evening.

[41:01] Um

[41:02] if they do wish to comment either one

[41:04] way or the other, they've they've gone

[41:05] ahead and raised their hand. I

[41:06] appreciate that, so I will add them to

[41:08] the meeting just so

[41:09] um we have feedback from almost all

[41:12] surrounding properties. There is um I

[41:15] did not hear back from 215 Perth Street.

[41:18] But um

[41:19] this I'm about to promote um

[41:21] Carrie just 1 second.

[41:23] » So again, please just intro- introduce

[41:25] yourself, your name, and your the

[41:27] address, uh and I will have 7 minutes

[41:30] for you to speak.

[41:33] Welcome.

[41:35] » Hi, everybody. I'm Carrie Sounthones. I

[41:37] live at 223 Perth Street. So, just

[41:40] around the corner, we are in the

[41:41] backyard of Raj and our new neighbors.

[41:44] So, welcome. We're excited to meet you.

[41:46] We have not met everybody yet, but very

[41:48] excited to meet you. Uh

[41:51] I just want to say we're happy to have

[41:52] new neighbors and I respect the bylaw. I

[41:56] respect all our neighbors' opinions and

[42:00] everybody's feelings towards it. My

[42:02] husband and I

[42:04] we're okay with the 8-ft fence. It has

[42:06] worked out lovely in our backyard. Um

[42:10] so, we don't have any concerns with the

[42:14] increased

[42:15] height of the fence, but at the same

[42:17] point we also respect our neighbors

[42:19] concerns that are being raised for the

[42:21] impact on their properties.

[42:24] So, I guess that's all I have to say

[42:26] about that.

[42:28] So, again, welcome. Looking forward to

[42:30] meeting everybody.

[42:34] » Thank you.

[42:35] Are there any questions

[42:38] on the line?

[42:39] Seeing none, um

[42:42] are there others than Mr. Miller in the

[42:45] audience?

[42:45] » Um as of right now, we have the

[42:47] applicant

[42:48] uh with their hand raised and I will

[42:50] give I believe there are a few other

[42:54] individuals in the virtual audience that

[42:56] haven't spoken. If you have not spoken

[42:58] and wish to speak,

[43:00] uh provide you with uh I'll just give

[43:02] about 10 seconds if you'd like to raise

[43:04] your hand. Uh failing that, we'll give

[43:06] the applicant the opportunity to address

[43:08] some of the comments that have been made

[43:10] and then um um

[43:13] I'd like to add something at the end of

[43:14] all that, Mr. Chair. Um so, again, we'll

[43:16] give about 10 seconds um and see if

[43:20] anyone else. And failing that, I will um

[43:22] re-add the applicant into uh the

[43:25] meeting.

[43:33] » Okay, so I'm not seeing anybody, so I

[43:35] will go ahead and re-add the uh property

[43:37] owners.

[43:45] » Welcome back. Uh if you have uh a few

[43:48] comments, please feel free to add to

[43:51] your previous uh

[43:54] uh previous words and and then we'll

[43:56] move on from there.

[43:58] Please go ahead.

[44:00] » Yep. Can you Can you hear us? Okay.

[44:03] Uh yeah, first of all, uh I would just

[44:05] like to thank you um

[44:07] our neighbors.

[44:08] We respect their honest opinion. I would

[44:11] like to

[44:12] uh

[44:13] uh

[44:14] do consider some of the points that were

[44:17] mentioned and

[44:18] um

[44:20] and just give us our point of view where

[44:22] we are coming from. Uh so there were a

[44:25] few things that was mentioned

[44:27] that the fence looks higher than

[44:29] expected and in many places it's already

[44:33] uh constructed 8 ft. Uh I think this is

[44:36] something we've already mentioned to the

[44:37] city

[44:39] that we were not home. The workers made

[44:41] the fence. We don't want to

[44:43] make them do extra work in case we do

[44:45] get a permit from the city. So we told

[44:47] them, "Okay, just hold on. Don't do any

[44:49] more work

[44:50] because we don't have the permit yet."

[44:52] Um so yeah, we apologize for the

[44:56] inconvenience that caused, but that was

[44:58] not our intention.

[44:59] Um

[45:00] Uh we met Paul yesterday. He's He's the

[45:04] girls love him. It was great meeting him

[45:07] and I appreciate his comments.

[45:10] Um

[45:11] I we also in hindsight we wish

[45:14] we were

[45:15] um

[45:16] we had

[45:17] further discussions with our

[45:19] neighborhood before we went on and

[45:22] did this project.

[45:24] The challenge being we don't live here

[45:26] permanently yet.

[45:28] We're still in the process of moving.

[45:30] Kids are in school. It's very hard to

[45:32] get out of home and then we come here.

[45:35] Um

[45:36] it's a lot of work. So it's I I wish we

[45:39] had time to meet everyone and discuss

[45:42] what we are thinking. Um

[45:44] But that is how I would have done it in

[45:47] hindsight too.

[45:48] Um

[45:49] » We We wish we could have and we

[45:51] definitely wanted to have

[45:53] » Yeah. And and one of our neighbors also

[45:56] mentioned that we our concrete is maybe

[45:59] accidentally poured on their side. I

[46:01] just want to rest assure everyone the

[46:02] work is not done yet. We are just

[46:04] waiting for the permit before we go any

[46:06] further. Yeah, so we are going to clean

[46:08] everything up. We're going to put

[46:09] topsoil on. If the grass is dead, we'll

[46:11] make sure it's fixed. The idea is to

[46:13] make sure this fence looks

[46:15] professionally done and not something

[46:17] that is just put there. Um

[46:20] A lot of comments were around the

[46:22] aesthetic.

[46:25] I

[46:26] I think I understand where people are

[46:28] coming from. Uh this neighborhood has

[46:31] long been uh

[46:34] more of like an open community without

[46:35] any fences. So people in general seem

[46:39] little

[46:40] uh

[46:41] uh concerned about fences in general.

[46:43] Any any sort of fences in general, but

[46:46] but our

[46:49] but that doesn't apply to this variance

[46:52] application. Um

[46:53] I understand sometimes fences is not

[46:56] what you prefer,

[46:57] uh but uh but because of our unique uh

[47:01] we we have three young daughters. They

[47:02] run around everywhere. I cannot keep

[47:04] track of them.

[47:05] Um I also I'm out of the country for

[47:09] work. Uh I haven't found a job in Canada

[47:12] yet, so we are just trying to figure

[47:14] everything out. My wife is home alone,

[47:16] and it gives us a lot of peace of mind

[47:18] when we think, "Okay, everything is

[47:19] closed off. Kids are not running away

[47:22] uh and somebody is not in the pool and

[47:23] one is outside the street." So it gives

[47:25] us that confidence.

[47:27] » Their clothes on. Like they're young and

[47:28] no matter what that age, it's just so

[47:30] hard to

[47:31] explain to them that whether it's hot

[47:33] outside or not, you need to keep your

[47:35] clothing on. I don't care

[47:36] [clears throat] that there's a pool in

[47:37] the backyard. Like they're just young

[47:39] and and as a female, it it makes it you

[47:42] feel a little more exposed.

[47:44] » Yeah.

[47:45] » Um and you just want that privacy when

[47:47] you're swimming in your own pool.

[47:48] Otherwise, you'd be in a community area.

[47:51] A community pool.

[47:52] » And

[47:53] and yeah, so I just would like to say

[47:56] that to

[47:57] the the committee that um

[48:01] I hope

[48:02] you know, you understand our point of

[48:04] view, where we are coming from.

[48:06] Um I understand a lot of concerns are

[48:08] about the fence in general, but that

[48:10] doesn't apply to the minor variance

[48:12] itself. [laughter]

[48:13] » Mhm.

[48:14] » Um and um you're welcome to come over,

[48:16] look at our property. It's on a really

[48:18] high slope.

[48:19] » Comes one with us.

[48:20] » Yeah. So,

[48:21] » Three small children.

[48:22] » Yeah, so

[48:23] » Some of them they're naked, you know.

[48:26] » And yeah, that's all. I mean, unless you

[48:28] have anything to say.

[48:30] » This is Raj, you know, like

[48:33] Raj

[48:34] I'm the one who put the application for

[48:36] this minor variance. Hi everyone.

[48:40] I have my concern, you know, like I had,

[48:42] you know, I live in Waterloo 48 years.

[48:45] And you know, my fence I had, you know,

[48:47] swimming pool there, too. My fence was

[48:49] 6.6. One of the night, 2:00 in the

[48:52] morning, I seen

[48:54] bunch of teenager. It was in my swimming

[48:57] pool. My purse got stolen from my, you

[49:00] know, like kitchen table, you know, from

[49:02] my backyard. People jump in.

[49:05] I'm not lying. It was reported to the

[49:07] police. Police actually found they took

[49:09] the money out, threw my purse, you know,

[49:12] some other other person's yard. And here

[49:16] I find someone put the bad messages on

[49:19] our gate. We are sold I. That's what the

[49:23] message we got. So,

[49:25] I

[49:26] I we are isolated. And I feel it's a

[49:29] discrimination here because of our our

[49:31] color. And I was going to see my you

[49:34] know, like front yard. And you know,

[49:36] like I was going to talk to him. And

[49:38] when I was on his front porch, and I

[49:40] said, "Oh, you can see your front

[49:43] neighbor's, you know, everything." He

[49:45] said, "I like seeing it." I don't like

[49:47] that comment. Another thing, you know, I

[49:49] I seen, you know, on his side there was

[49:52] a little bit, you know, like a cement of

[49:54] 2 3 in. I said, I will cut it down. I

[49:57] will put the top soil and I will put the

[49:59] seed on. Steven, you will be happy. He

[50:02] said, I never be happy. That was his

[50:04] comment. So, I How I feel comfortable

[50:07] with the these kind of neighbors who are

[50:10] all the time running to the, you know,

[50:11] like a city hall and so many city hall

[50:14] people coming to me, you know. I'm not

[50:17] feeling comfortable. I'm feeling

[50:19] horrible about it. We are not feeling

[50:21] welcome in this neighborhood because of

[50:24] our color. It's a

[50:26] discrimination here.

[50:27] » It's okay.

[50:29] Yeah, okay. Let's

[50:30] » I I think that

[50:31] I mean, from a safety perspective, it

[50:34] certainly feels like when you're

[50:38] when I mean, like for example, one of

[50:40] the neighbors put a caution sign in

[50:41] front of you.

[50:42] » By on my forehead.

[50:44] » So, I do want to I do want to focus

[50:47] » I

[50:47] » I'm just saying it's from a safety

[50:49] perspective. I

[50:51] appreciate

[50:52] » I think the point is safety is also

[50:55] important. If that's like that's the

[50:57] only point. Yeah, it's okay.

[50:58] » They were never to be watched to me.

[51:00] Anyway, they keep eye on where I'm

[51:02] going. They must be

[51:05] They can see my whole house from there,

[51:06] you know.

[51:07] I can see He can see everything on my

[51:09] side. I don't want him to watch me.

[51:11] » It's okay.

[51:12] » So, I want to be really respectful here,

[51:14] but we have

[51:14] » I was trying to be a good neighbor. I

[51:16] was very nice to them and they're

[51:18] running all the time to

[51:20] » And so, Mr. Miller, we made it to the

[51:23] conclusion that we have

[51:24] » I'm going to mute it. I'm going to mute

[51:25] it. Yeah.

[51:27] I'm going to mute it, too.

[51:28] » Uh-huh.

[51:29] » If there's any questions from the

[51:30] committee,

[51:32] um

[51:32] we'll allow one opportunity here and

[51:35] then um I will just as from staff add

[51:37] something.

[51:38] Um and then we'll we'll proceed.

[51:41] » You might be adding what I want to touch

[51:42] on. So, Mr. Roth, please go ahead.

[51:45] » Um are we allowed to uh, comment on the

[51:48] situation now, Mr. Miller, or do you

[51:50] want to make your your, uh, statements

[51:52] first?

[51:53] » So, if you have questions, Mr. Roth, for

[51:55] the applicant,

[51:55] » Well, it's it's not it's not a question.

[51:58] It's, uh, a comment.

[52:00] » Okay, so if if that's the case, are

[52:02] there questions for the applicant? Mr.

[52:04] [clears throat] Roth, I will come back

[52:05] to you. Sorry, I don't mean

[52:07] Um,

[52:09] seeing none, I think I'll let Mr.

[52:10] Miller, you speak to what you want to

[52:12] staff. My comments are going to be

[52:14] around what the actual

[52:17] rec motion is,

[52:19] um, and and as well as taking into

[52:22] context what was known before, uh, this

[52:26] uh, client

[52:27] before the application and Mr. Miller's,

[52:30] uh, recommendation or staff

[52:32] recommendation was. So, please go ahead,

[52:34] Mr. Miller.

[52:35] » Uh, yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, so

[52:37] just to summarize, um, just because

[52:39] again, this is a virtual format, um, I

[52:41] would just like to highlight

[52:43] uh, who we've received feedback from.

[52:45] Um, so,

[52:47] in terms of properties that are directly

[52:49] abutting, it would be 216 Shade Street,

[52:52] uh, which is, uh, immediately to the

[52:54] east of this property. We've received

[52:56] feedback from 231 Perth Street, which,

[52:59] uh, is immediately north and directly

[53:01] abutting. Uh, both of uh, whom were

[53:03] against the fence. Um,

[53:06] 223 Perth Street is to the west of the

[53:08] property, directly abutting, um, and did

[53:11] express support for the fence. 215 Perth

[53:16] Street, we did not receive

[53:18] comments from,

[53:19] uh, nor did they, uh, register this

[53:22] evening.

[53:23] Um, the remaining property would be in

[53:25] the front at 234 Per- uh, Shade Street,

[53:28] excuse me, and, um, they expressed

[53:31] concerns with the increase in fence

[53:33] height. Um, similarly, there were some

[53:36] residents across the street, um, who

[53:38] took, uh, issue with the increase of

[53:41] height of the gate, uh which is facing

[53:44] south towards their properties.

[53:46] Um so again from a from a staff

[53:48] perspective, we have we have highlighted

[53:50] that probably the the test uh from from

[53:53] a staff perspective again in the intent

[53:55] of offense bylaw being from 2009, uh

[53:58] just back to Mr. Funk's earlier

[53:59] comments, um

[54:01] is that

[54:02] ultimately we are discussing an increase

[54:04] of of uh 1 and 1/2 ft here here this

[54:07] evening, and that is the sole focus of

[54:10] what the committee is contemplating, an

[54:12] increase of of 1 and 1/2 ft. Um the

[54:16] other issues that have uh

[54:18] occurred um

[54:20] uh alleged or have occurred or relating

[54:22] to

[54:24] um you know, mass or anything, those

[54:25] those either are property standards

[54:27] issues or potential sections of offense

[54:29] that have been created that'd be a bylaw

[54:30] issue for our bylaw staff to enforce.

[54:33] Um

[54:34] from a staff perspective again, the

[54:35] recommendation provided was this uh in

[54:37] absence of any comments received from

[54:39] the public um at that stage, so it is a

[54:41] recommendation for the entire perimeter.

[54:44] Um

[54:45] the committee can make a decision um

[54:47] to provide an alternative recommendation

[54:50] this evening based on the feedback of

[54:52] the property owners that um

[54:54] either didn't write in or didn't object,

[54:56] which would again be 223 Perth Street

[54:58] and 215 Perth Street. Um there was uh

[55:01] not as much mention of the front gate.

[55:03] Um most sections are 6 ft 6. I did visit

[55:07] it. There are some of the posts that are

[55:09] 8 ft um at the end cap there.

[55:12] Um

[55:13] so

[55:14] ultimately it'd be the committee's uh

[55:16] decision this evening, but from a staff

[55:19] perspective again, I think the report uh

[55:21] despite the recommendation, um

[55:23] the report summarizes again um what

[55:26] staff feel is being the main test of a

[55:28] variance. Ultimately it's the

[55:29] committee's decision on on how they feel

[55:31] that that bylaw should uh be

[55:33] interpreted. Um and that's all pretty

[55:35] pretty all the comments I have to add.

[55:36] » Thank you Mr. Miller. Can I quickly ask

[55:38] just one question? Oh, sorry Mr. Roth,

[55:41] you you please go ahead. You were

[55:44] » Well, if you I I still would want to

[55:46] make a comment. I don't have a question.

[55:49] If you have a question, I think you

[55:51] should go first.

[55:52] » Okay, I'll take take you up on that.

[55:54] Sorry for the back and forth.

[55:56] Mr. Miller,

[55:58] if

[55:59] how so it is the recommendation is for

[56:02] the entire perimeter recognizing that as

[56:05] you noted

[56:07] we didn't hear from some adjacent

[56:10] properties and some were in potentially

[56:13] in favor. So if we're I just as as a

[56:16] note if we said

[56:19] ask for an alternative

[56:22] approach should we be

[56:25] um

[56:26] is that a separate submission by the

[56:28] applicant to say this is what I would

[56:30] like to do or you or the staff would

[56:33] come and

[56:35] provide one?

[56:36] » Um someone can bring forward a motion

[56:38] for an alternative recommendation

[56:40] um

[56:41] based on how they feel to best move

[56:44] forward. If um I guess the first thing

[56:47] would would be ask if there's a mover

[56:48] and a second or for the original motion.

[56:50] » So we'll move this motion forward but

[56:52] following that we'll decide if

[56:53] » If not then someone committee member

[56:56] would need to bring forward a

[56:58] motion

[56:59] and specify in this case either if it's

[57:03] you know zero sections or specific

[57:05] sections. Again, I'd leave that to the

[57:07] committee.

[57:09] » Okay, so please comment Mr. Roth.

[57:12] » Thank you Mr. Chair.

[57:14] Um having visited the site on two

[57:17] different occasions um

[57:20] and in light of the comments that we

[57:23] have heard this evening um I cannot

[57:26] support

[57:27] this particular motion.

[57:30] Uh in my humble opinion, the uh 6-foot-6

[57:34] fence

[57:35] um

[57:37] in looking at the site,

[57:39] uh provides uh I think ample um privacy

[57:45] and and security to to the property

[57:49] um to alleviate com- some of the

[57:51] concerns of of the applicant.

[57:55] When I look at the bylaw or

[57:57] sort of um

[57:59] understand a little bit of the bylaw and

[58:01] how bylaws work,

[58:03] this particular bylaw gives the option

[58:07] that if neighbor abutting neighbors um

[58:11] have concerns and and serious concerns

[58:15] that the 6-foot-6

[58:18] um measurement should apply and should

[58:21] be in effect. So, therefore, I cannot uh

[58:25] support um any increase in sight in any

[58:30] portion of the fence.

[58:32] And that would be my position.

[58:38] » Thank you, Mr. Ruth. Appreciate the the

[58:41] comments.

[58:43] Um with with that, I am going to uh ask

[58:47] for a motion to move uh a mover of the

[58:51] motion on that the Committee of

[58:54] Adjustments

[58:55] approve this submission. So,

[59:00] uh we would move that for further

[59:01] conversation or move it, second it, and

[59:04] then we will have a uh a discussion and

[59:07] move and make our decision at that

[59:10] point. So, if anyone would like to move

[59:12] this motion for further conversation and

[59:14] decision, please

[59:16] raise your hand.

[59:21] If no one is So, uh if there's no and I

[59:24] would encourage, I'm not saying your

[59:26] motion to move it just to be clear means

[59:29] approval of the motion. It means we have

[59:33] the opportunity to make a decision on

[59:35] the motion either for or against.

[59:37] » As the chair has indicated it's getting

[59:39] it on the floor essentially so to speak.

[59:42] Um

[59:43] » So

[59:44] um is there any interest and and

[59:47] [clears throat] I will press a little

[59:48] bit to move this motion forward so we're

[59:51] not deadlocked uh in the conversation

[59:54] moved by Mr. Miller. A second really

[59:57] means we we have two people interested

[59:59] in talking so move seconded by Mr.

[1:00:02] Kohler.

[1:00:03] Thank you both. So now we have the

[1:00:04] opportunity to if we want to add further

[1:00:07] comments to talk about this application

[1:00:10] and then I will call for a vote. And so

[1:00:13] I Mr. Roth I appreciate your comments.

[1:00:15] Um we can consider those as a committee

[1:00:18] as well. Are there any other comments

[1:00:21] that would like to be heard or spoken

[1:00:24] from this committee?

[1:00:26] Uh seeing none I would would like to

[1:00:29] call

[1:00:30] a vote on

[1:00:32] approving this submission.

[1:00:35] All those in favor

[1:00:37] » Would you would you please re-clarify

[1:00:39] what the motion actually

[1:00:41] » So so the recommendation here is that

[1:00:44] the Committee of Adjustments approve

[1:00:46] submission A-10/26

[1:00:49] by Kumari Singh affecting part of lot

[1:00:54] part of lot 11 plan 532

[1:00:58] being part three on 58R-15009

[1:01:05] which is basically describing the lot of

[1:01:07] 226 uh address to increase the maximum

[1:01:11] allowable fence height outside of the

[1:01:14] front yard setback or driveway

[1:01:16] visibility triangle set out in the

[1:01:19] zoning bylaw from 1.98 m

[1:01:22] to approximately 2.44 m. So, this motion

[1:01:28] sets out the ability to do it uh around

[1:01:31] the entire perimeter.

[1:01:33] Um so, if if we feel that some areas are

[1:01:36] okay, some are not, the

[1:01:38] uh the the the motion should not be

[1:01:41] carried if that is your view.

[1:01:43] Um if you're okay with moving forward

[1:01:45] with that approving the increase of

[1:01:48] height from 1.98 to 2.44,

[1:01:53] then that would be a vote in favor. So,

[1:01:55] um is that understood?

[1:01:59] More or less, yeah?

[1:02:01] » Yes, Mr. Chair. I would request a I

[1:02:03] would request a recorded vote.

[1:02:06] » Okay. So, I'm going to

[1:02:08] go through the motions and I will take

[1:02:10] that vote and not that it's not the

[1:02:12] motions uh through the call for a vote.

[1:02:14] So, can I all those in favor, please

[1:02:17] raise your hand?

[1:02:20] See Seeing none, all those opposed to

[1:02:23] this application, please raise your

[1:02:25] hand.

[1:02:26] » And then uh Mr. Roth, I would just like

[1:02:28] you to read the names of those opposed.

[1:02:31] For the purposes of

[1:02:32] » Right. I apologize for not listing that.

[1:02:35] So, those opposed are Christine Kohler,

[1:02:38] Wayne Roth, and Stephen Miller.

[1:02:42] So, that

[1:02:44] uh

[1:02:44] that is the intent of that application.

[1:02:47] What I

[1:02:49] So, Mr. Miller, I'm going to ask for a

[1:02:51] little bit of a question here.

[1:02:53] » Sure.

[1:02:53] » Would now be the time if the committee

[1:02:55] would like to see a different motion to

[1:02:58] request

[1:02:59] » Someone can bring forward a an amended

[1:03:01] motion, yes.

[1:03:02] » So, is there interested in an amended

[1:03:04] motion?

[1:03:06] The outcome of this would be that this

[1:03:08] motion that we just defeated, we could

[1:03:11] suggest an amended motion, which would

[1:03:13] direct staff accordingly,

[1:03:16] or we could let it sit and let uh the

[1:03:18] applicant uh make a separate

[1:03:20] application. Is that fair?

[1:03:23] Uh

[1:03:23] » From a From a staff perspective, I would

[1:03:25] just highlight again that there are two

[1:03:26] abutting property owners that did not

[1:03:28] object. One actually was in favor. Um

[1:03:32] so um you know, despite a lot of the

[1:03:35] comments that were received, from a

[1:03:37] staff perspective

[1:03:38] um

[1:03:40] uh again, these directly abutting

[1:03:41] property owners either did not object

[1:03:43] and and one provided support. So um if

[1:03:47] there is a committee member that wishes

[1:03:49] to move a recommendation

[1:03:52] uh where

[1:03:53] the 8-ft high section would be permitted

[1:03:56] uh along

[1:03:58] uh 223 on the rear property line of 223

[1:04:01] Perth Street and additionally on 215

[1:04:04] Perth Street, limiting the

[1:04:07] remainder of the property

[1:04:09] to 6-ft 6.

[1:04:10] » Yep.

[1:04:11] » Um if there is

[1:04:12] » Any interest from the committee to move

[1:04:14] uh put on the floor another motion or to

[1:04:20] Seeing none,

[1:04:21] » [clears throat]

[1:04:21] » Uh that motion is uh not approved and we

[1:04:24] will move on to the next application,

[1:04:26] Mr. Miller.

[1:04:29] » Okay.

[1:04:30] Um thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Um so

[1:04:33] that motion, again, just for the record

[1:04:35] of everyone in this meeting has been

[1:04:37] defeated. Um

[1:04:38] so

[1:04:40] um

[1:04:41] it's been it's been defeated by uh this

[1:04:43] committee. Okay, moving on to the next

[1:04:47] application this evening. And um thank

[1:04:50] you for everyone for your patience as we

[1:04:51] work through these. Uh the next

[1:04:53] application is A11/26

[1:04:56] uh concerning 2451 Hearn Road. And so

[1:05:00] this proposes to reduce the uh minimum

[1:05:02] distance two requirements from a

[1:05:04] proposed barn to a nearest neighboring

[1:05:06] dwelling from uh 161 m to approximately

[1:05:10] 147 m.

[1:05:12] Uh so property is roughly a 30-ha farm.

[1:05:15] It's developed with a single detached

[1:05:17] dwelling and existing poultry operation

[1:05:19] that contains a a 20,000 sq ft chicken

[1:05:21] barn.

[1:05:22] Uh there was a sketch provided as part

[1:05:24] of the application. It shows that the

[1:05:25] owners are proposing a a second uh

[1:05:28] chicken barn uh

[1:05:30] essentially of of equal size um and in a

[1:05:33] similar location but uh further to the

[1:05:35] east um than the existing uh barn.

[1:05:39] Uh so that MDS separation guideline that

[1:05:41] is is referred to here is a is a

[1:05:43] provincial formula but essentially it

[1:05:45] sets out minimum distances from

[1:05:46] livestock facilities and manure storages

[1:05:49] to uh sensitive land uses. And in the

[1:05:51] case here uh the sensitive land use

[1:05:53] would be uh a nearest neighboring

[1:05:55] dwelling located at 2469 Hearn Road. Uh

[1:05:58] and so that requirement sets out 161 m

[1:06:02] and um it's proposed to be reduced to

[1:06:04] 147 m. Um

[1:06:07] so that's being sought essentially to

[1:06:09] keep the the cluster of buildings as

[1:06:11] close as possible for farming purposes.

[1:06:14] It is worth noting that the nearest

[1:06:16] neighboring dwelling in question is in

[1:06:18] is in ownership common ownership of a

[1:06:20] family of Pine Hill Poultry who's the uh

[1:06:23] proponent of this application. And um

[1:06:26] again there should be no additional

[1:06:27] impacts on any other surrounding uh

[1:06:30] homes as it's not proposing to go

[1:06:32] um closer than otherwise permitted to

[1:06:34] any of these other dwellings. In fact,

[1:06:36] it's actually going further further away

[1:06:37] from a dwelling to the south by pushing

[1:06:39] it further to the north. Um there is a

[1:06:42] bit of a compounding effect with um MDS

[1:06:44] regulations. When the first barn was

[1:06:46] constructed, I referred back to that

[1:06:48] from 2017 and it established 126 m

[1:06:52] setback. So um

[1:06:54] in this case again the setback of uh

[1:06:57] 147 m is greater than that existing barn

[1:07:00] but uh is a reduction to the current

[1:07:02] requirement. Um in circulating the

[1:07:04] application, we didn't receive any

[1:07:06] concerns and we're recommending that it

[1:07:07] be approved.

[1:07:11] » Thank you. Uh is the applicant

[1:07:14] uh it

[1:07:15] present and wanting to speak?

[1:07:17] » Uh yes,

[1:07:18] uh Mr. Head has raised his hand, and I

[1:07:21] will be promoting him as a panelist.

[1:07:23] » Thank you.

[1:07:32] Welcome.

[1:07:33] Uh

[1:07:34] please, if you're able to turn your

[1:07:36] camera on, that would be appreciated as

[1:07:38] well.

[1:07:41] » Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of

[1:07:43] the members of the committee and staff.

[1:07:44] My name is Andrew Head from Trident

[1:07:46] Smith and Head Planning Consultants.

[1:07:49] I'd like to thank Cameron Miller for

[1:07:50] doing an excellent job. He's explained

[1:07:52] this application quite quite quite

[1:07:54] nicely.

[1:07:55] Uh it is, as you can see from the sketch

[1:07:57] plan that's provided to you, uh we're

[1:07:59] mirroring pretty much mirroring the

[1:08:00] existing operation. Uh due to the

[1:08:02] compounded issues, we are although we

[1:08:04] are moving farther away from everything,

[1:08:07] the compounded issues has created a

[1:08:09] discrepancy in the minimum distance

[1:08:10] separation. Uh

[1:08:12] now, someone who's very familiar with

[1:08:13] the minor variance processes, as as you

[1:08:16] all are now, um you can understand that

[1:08:19] this is quite minor in nature. Uh we

[1:08:21] don't have any complaints. We have the

[1:08:23] uh son lives and works at Pine Hill

[1:08:24] Poultry. We have uh a signed affidavit

[1:08:27] from the property owner and the and the

[1:08:29] living and the owner who who resides at

[1:08:32] the at the house.

[1:08:34] I could go on about the four tests of

[1:08:35] the minor variances, and we could we

[1:08:37] could go on about this, but you know

[1:08:39] what?

[1:08:39] » [clears throat]

[1:08:40] » Uh it's already 8:10, and you know, I'm

[1:08:43] happy to answer any questions, and I'd

[1:08:45] I'd love to see your support on this.

[1:08:46] Thank you.

[1:08:48] » Thank you. Are there any questions for

[1:08:52] for Mr. Head? No.

[1:08:55] Seems and and thank you. Appreciate your

[1:08:57] time.

[1:08:58] Are there any

[1:09:00] um questions from others in attendance,

[1:09:03] Mr. Miller?

[1:09:05] » Uh, I'll have

[1:09:07] one brief look. I don't anticipate there

[1:09:09] being any based on the names left.

[1:09:13] » Okay.

[1:09:17] So,

[1:09:18] uh, I'll move to

[1:09:21] calling it the committee. Are there is

[1:09:23] there anyone that would like to move

[1:09:24] this motion?

[1:09:26] Yeah.

[1:09:27] Moved by Mr. Roth, seconded by

[1:09:31] Ms. Kohler. Um, any questions or comment

[1:09:34] conversation? I see none. Can I get uh,

[1:09:37] all those in favor to raise their hand?

[1:09:41] And that motion is carried.

[1:09:44] Thank you. Um,

[1:09:46] and we have one more for this evening.

[1:09:48] Mr. Miller, would you please introduce

[1:09:50] that?

[1:09:51] » Thank you, Mr. Chair. The final

[1:09:54] application this evening is a consent

[1:09:55] application concerning 2342 Steiners

[1:09:59] Road East. This application is proposing

[1:10:01] to sever approximately 0.4 hectares as a

[1:10:03] new residential lot and retaining equal

[1:10:06] size

[1:10:07] 0.4 hectares.

[1:10:09] Uh, so this property is is zoned zone

[1:10:12] one agricultural. It's designated as

[1:10:14] rural areas in the township official

[1:10:15] plan. It currently has a single family

[1:10:17] home on it and again it's about 0.8

[1:10:19] hectares in size. The applicants seeking

[1:10:22] tonight to divide that property in half.

[1:10:25] Prior to this process,

[1:10:27] they did receive council approval to

[1:10:29] reduce the minimum lot area from 40

[1:10:32] hectares and the minimum lot frontage of

[1:10:34] 230 meters

[1:10:36] to allow for essentially facilitate a

[1:10:38] future severance this evening. Um,

[1:10:41] through that previous process there was

[1:10:42] a lot of technical items that were

[1:10:44] provided such as the main one being a

[1:10:46] hydrogeological assessment to

[1:10:48] demonstrate there'd be no impacts on

[1:10:49] ground water in in this severance.

[1:10:52] It's worth noting the township official

[1:10:54] plan allows for infilling on lands that

[1:10:57] are designated as rural areas. These

[1:10:58] lands are designated as rural areas and

[1:11:00] therefore council

[1:11:02] made a decision on that basis.

[1:11:04] Um

[1:11:05] Again, um

[1:11:06] this is simply implementing the previous

[1:11:08] decision of council

[1:11:11] um at an earlier meeting

[1:11:12] uh previous month and uh there are some

[1:11:15] standard fairly standard conditions that

[1:11:17] are included in the recommendation such

[1:11:19] as demolishing the existing house,

[1:11:21] decommissioning the septic system, and

[1:11:24] um some other standard things that we

[1:11:25] see on a severance such as noise warning

[1:11:28] clauses due to the

[1:11:29] uh proximity of regional road as well as

[1:11:33] um

[1:11:34] um road widening from the regional

[1:11:36] Waterloo. Uh happy to answer any

[1:11:37] questions. Uh the applicant's also here

[1:11:39] this evening, but again uh should be

[1:11:42] rather straightforward and I'm happy to

[1:11:43] answer them.

[1:11:46] » All right, then. Uh does the applicant

[1:11:47] want to to speak?

[1:11:50] » I'll get

[1:11:51] They're raising their hand, so we'll

[1:11:53] welcome them into the meeting.

[1:12:05] » Welcome.

[1:12:07] » Yeah, through you, chair. Uh good

[1:12:09] evening. Uh my name's Dylan Schner and

[1:12:10] I'm a planner and urban designer with

[1:12:11] GSP Group. Uh I'm here tonight as the

[1:12:14] agent for the application uh for 2342

[1:12:16] Snyders Road East. I wanted to thank

[1:12:18] you, Cameron, for the overview of the

[1:12:19] application. Um and I just wanted to

[1:12:21] note that I support the recommendation

[1:12:23] for approval from staff and I'll be

[1:12:24] available to answer any questions if

[1:12:26] needed.

[1:12:27] » Thank you.

[1:12:28] Are there any uh questions from the

[1:12:31] committee?

[1:12:34] Seeing none, thank you for for joining.

[1:12:37] Uh we'll move Are there Is there anyone

[1:12:39] in the audience or present online that

[1:12:41] would

[1:12:42] look to speak to the application?

[1:12:45] » Does not appear so.

[1:12:47] » Seeing none.

[1:12:48] Uh are there any questions, committee

[1:12:50] member? I know I just asked that,

[1:12:51] actually.

[1:12:52] Um

[1:12:53] uh if not, uh could I get a motion from

[1:12:55] the committee on this application?

[1:13:00] Uh moved by Mr. Miller, seconded by Ms.

[1:13:02] Kohler.

[1:13:04] Uh any discussion?

[1:13:06] Um can I all of those in favor, please

[1:13:09] raise your hand?

[1:13:11] And that motion is carried.

[1:13:13] So, that takes us to the end, if I'm

[1:13:15] correct, uh Mr. Miller.

[1:13:17] » Mhm.

[1:13:18] » Um do we have items for August now?

Committee of Adjustment meeting July 8 2026

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