[0:07] - Welcome to the regular

[0:12] city council meeting for Troutdale for Tuesday,

[0:16] April 14th, 2026.

[0:20] We'll start off with the who, who's first tonight. Deputy

[0:23] - Councilor Allen.

[0:25] - Councilor Allen. Would you lead us

[0:27] in the Pledge of Allegiance?

[0:34] - I pledge - Allegiance to the flag

[0:36] of the United States of America

[0:38] and to the Republic for which it stands,

[0:40] one Nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty

[0:45] - Justice.

[0:52] - Okay, thank you. Sarah, please call roll

[0:55] - Councilor Andrews.

[0:57] Here. Councilor Allen? Here. Councilor one. Present.

[1:01] Councilor White. Here. Councilor Davidon? Here.

[1:05] Councilor Lee? Here. Here.

[1:07] - Here. Alright Mike, is there an agenda update?

[1:12] - I have no update Mayor. Alright,

[1:16] - We'll move on to public comment.

[1:20] Public comment on non agenda and consent.

[1:23] Agenda items is welcome.

[1:25] At this time, public comment on agenda item

[1:29] will be taken at the time the item is considered.

[1:32] Public comments should be directed to presiding officer

[1:35] and limited to matters of community interest

[1:37] or related to matters which may

[1:39] or could come before the council.

[1:42] Each speaker shall be limited to five minutes

[1:44] for each agenda item

[1:46] unless a different amount of time is allowed

[1:48] by the presiding officer with consent of the council.

[1:52] The council and mayor should avoid immediate

[1:54] or protracted responses to citizen comments.

[1:58] So at this time I will invite anyone participating

[2:03] via Zoom to address the council during public comment.

[2:08] Anyone?

[2:11] - Mayor Paul Wilcox Trial tale?

[2:13] - Yes, Paul, go right ahead.

[2:16] - Thanks. Dave wasn't planned to have a public comment

[2:20] but I was looking at the

[2:22] updates on the Glendo parking exemption rules just

[2:27] before the meeting and I noticed that it is

[2:30] per resident two plate numbers per resident.

[2:33] I'm wondering if that was the intent.

[2:36] So you had a four person household that could

[2:39] register eight different tag numbers.

[2:41] So I was just curious about, you know,

[2:43] if that was correct or not.

[2:45] I would expect it to be two, two plates per household.

[2:51] - Alright, thank you.

[2:53] I mean I frankly I think it's two spots per resident

[3:00] that that was my intent anyway, but I don't know for sure.

[3:07] Alright, how about anyone else on Zoom wish

[3:10] to address the company?

[3:13] How about in the room? This is time for public comment.

[3:16] Yes, I will please come forward.

[3:33] - Hello? Goodnight. My name is Sal Pompeo

[3:35] and I'm the owner of Restaurant Pompeo.

[3:38] And I come, I come here to ask a question in the

[3:44] 2 57 when you passed

[3:49] Cherry Park, it's the light, they create a sidewalk

[3:54] in the, in the center of the, the, you know, the,

[3:59] the center line they create over their

[4:03] sidewalk two weeks ago.

[4:05] A big crash over there because they don't put any signs

[4:10] when you driving that way that sidewalk they, you don't saw

[4:15] because it's that way that car jump

[4:20] in the sidewalk and crash like this

[4:22] because they create a in the center in the sidewalk

[4:26] in the center, in the center, in the line of the center.

[4:29] They create a sidewalk, maybe four Crosswalk

[4:35] and you know that crosswalk is between two curbs

[4:39] and it's very dangerous curbs.

[4:41] And I request to the engineer,

[4:45] while they don't put any signs before the accident,

[4:49] after the accident, they already put

[4:51] signs, they put a big signs.

[4:54] But why did they put the signs before?

[4:57] And if county make that mistake, if you go to pay

[5:01] for the person, have the accident

[5:03] because if they forgot to put the signs,

[5:06] it's a sidewalk in the center of the street I think.

[5:09] So they need to put like everywhere,

[5:11] you know they put the sticks like this for you can don't go.

[5:15] So I request to you guys call man county

[5:20] and bring the engineer to explain us

[5:24] why they not put the signs before the accident.

[5:28] Why after the accident they put the signs

[5:31] and if they go to pay for the car accident,

[5:37] you know, because if they forgot to do something,

[5:40] I think someone normal continue they needs to pay

[5:42] for the crash anyway.

[5:44] That is my my suggestion.

[5:46] Can I respond And as the engineer, can I

[5:49] - Respond to that real quick?

[5:51] Yes. Hold on. Sul. Yes, yes.

[5:54] John's on our on, excuse me, has some insight.

[5:58] - There were posts were posts. No, before the accident,

[6:02] - Before the post I - I took 'em all out.

[6:05] Sorry about that. Yeah, if you went by right

[6:09] after the accident, all the posts were laid out flat,

[6:12] he took 'em all out.

[6:14] Little sports car convertible anyway

[6:17] and then that's why the orange

[6:19] temporary cones are there now.

[6:20] But there were

[6:22] - Before - There were popes metal popes with signs on them.

[6:26] - Oh and

[6:29] and my my my second question is why they do that design?

[6:33] Because when you put something in the center of the line,

[6:36] they need to put something for careful.

[6:39] They do all all over.

[6:40] And I that why the reason I was to the engineer explain

[6:46] why they do that design.

[6:48] If they already know all the cast jump on that

[6:54] A good, I don't know, maybe it's a good question.

[6:56] Bring the engineer and explain us

[6:58] because they bring them very soon the

[7:00] accident something wrong.

[7:02] I don't know this my Alright,

[7:05] - Thank you.

[7:06] Thank you. I mean we as a county road, our

[7:11] public works people do meet with the county once in a while

[7:15] you could ask, but

[7:17] - If you go just past there you'll see skid marks going

[7:20] towards the wood fence and hitting that telephone box.

[7:25] - Right. I have a feeling somebody was going Yeah. Fast.

[7:30] But anyway. Alright, well anyone else in the room wish

[7:34] to address the council during this time of public comment?

[7:40] Alright, close public comment

[7:42] and move on to the consent agenda. Do

[7:45] - You wanna read this now?

[7:48] - Quite yet, but Oh, oh, I'm sorry. That's right.

[7:50] That is, we have a written public comment. Forgive me.

[7:55] Thank you Jeffrey Ge councilor one has agreed to read

[8:01] Frank Stevens comments.

[8:03] It's, it's more public comment so please go ahead. Okay.

[8:09] - Public comment from Frank Stevens of Dale Oregon

[8:13] or urgent request for assessment

[8:14] and action To safeguard community trail pop chalk trail,

[8:18] consider updating local standards slash ordinances,

[8:20] future enforcement and oversight options

[8:23] and engineering of shared path areas

[8:25] to include surrounding green space locations

[8:28] for increased public safety in the city of Troutdale

[8:30] to the esteemed members of the city council

[8:32] and city staff, I'm writing as a concerned resident

[8:35] as a member of a frequent group of trail users.

[8:37] Friends of the choc chalk trail to formally notify the city

[8:40] of a pressing safety

[8:42] and public welfare issue, a structure resembling a cabin

[8:45] and currently occupied as well

[8:48] as other adjoining campsites in the immediate area have

[8:51] appeared in the past year with within our communities green

[8:54] space adjoining the popular trail

[8:56] frequented by family and children.

[8:58] A particular concern is a credible

[9:01] evidence suggesting the presence, the presence

[9:03] of weapons within or around this cabin.

[9:06] This development has elicited considerable concern

[9:08] among trail users, many of whom depend on the trail

[9:11] for recreation, exercise and safe passage.

[9:14] The existent the existence of weapons in proximity

[9:17] to a public space intended for communal enjoyment,

[9:20] especially by minors, raises significant safety concerns

[9:23] that demand immediate

[9:24] and careful attention considering the standards

[9:27] and response timelines currently employed by both the Port

[9:30] of Portland and Multnomah County Sheriff's Office is

[9:32] important to recognize a potential shortcoming in the

[9:35] prevailing approach to homeless

[9:37] homelessness encampments in our green space.

[9:41] Frequently these agencies use utilize an out of sight out

[9:44] of mind methodology, which tends to prioritize removal

[9:47] or relocation with without fully addressing

[9:49] deeper safety issues.

[9:51] This practice may unintentionally neglect crucial concerns

[9:55] related to public safety

[9:56] and the welfare of both the unhoused populations residing in

[9:59] these areas and the broader community

[10:01] that utilizes the chocho trail.

[10:04] Such oversight can lead to unresolved risks,

[10:06] particularly when encampments appear near family friendly

[10:10] spaces and there are no credible reports of weapons present

[10:15] And there are incredible reports of weapons present.

[10:18] Thank you. By highlighting this, we seek

[10:20] to encourage more comp, comprehensive

[10:22] and proactive interventions

[10:23] that better safeguard all community members

[10:26] and ensure the green space remains welcoming

[10:28] and secure for its intended purpose.

[10:31] While relocation

[10:32] and containment strategies are sometimes used

[10:34] to minimize visibility rather than resolve underlying

[10:38] issues, we urge the city to ensure

[10:40] that any response prioritizes safety,

[10:42] compassionate engagement, and sustainable solutions.

[10:46] The community values this area as an essential resource

[10:49] for healthy living, social connection

[10:51] and the enjoyment of nature.

[10:53] Accordingly, I respect respectfully request

[10:56] that the CH dale conduct a prompt

[10:59] and thorough investigation into this matter.

[11:01] We urge all that urge

[11:03] that all appropriate measures be taken, removal

[11:06] of structures, housing slash services

[11:09] provided for individuals in accordance with best practices

[11:12] and local public safety standards

[11:15] to ensure the ongoing safety of residents

[11:17] and to preserve the welcoming, peaceful nature

[11:19] of the green space and trail.

[11:21] We appreciate your timely attention to this matter

[11:23] and look forward to your response regarding the steps

[11:25] that will be taken to address these concerns.

[11:27] Respectfully, Frank Stevens,

[11:31] - Thank you, I appreciate that and thank you Frank.

[11:38] Is there anyone else who wi wishes to address this

[11:40] during public comment?

[11:43] If not, we'll move on to the consent agenda.

[11:47] Councilor Allen. Okay,

[11:49] - I knew that the consent agenda 3.1 minutes.

[11:53] - February 24th, 2026.

[11:56] City Council Wer meeting in March 10th, 2026.

[12:00] City Council regular meeting. Second.

[12:04] - Alright Sarah, would you call a role?

[12:07] - Yes. Councilor Allen? Yes. Councilor? Yes.

[12:12] Yes. Councilor White? Yes sir. Councillor Davidson? Yes.

[12:16] Councilor Lemi? Yes. Councilor Andrews? Yes.

[12:23] - Alright, thank you.

[12:25] We'll move on to agenda item number four, proclamations.

[12:29] I'm pleased and proud to make two proclamations beginning

[12:34] with 4.1, which is the Arbor Day

[12:40] proclamation, Whereas

[12:45] in 1872 J Sterling Morton proposed

[12:49] to the Nebraska Board of Agriculture that a special day

[12:53] be set aside for the planting of trees.

[12:56] And whereas this holiday called Arbor Day was first observed

[13:01] with the planting of more than a million trees in Nebraska.

[13:06] And whereas Arbor Day is now observed throughout the

[13:10] nation and the world.

[13:12] And whereas trees can reduce the erosion

[13:16] of our precious topsoil by wind and water cut heating

[13:20] and cooling costs moderate the temperature, clean the air,

[13:24] produce life, giving oxygen,

[13:26] and provide habitat for wildlife.

[13:29] And whereas trees are a renewable resource giving us paper

[13:34] wood for our homes, fuel for our fires,

[13:37] and countless other wood products.

[13:40] And whereas trees in our city, increased property values

[13:45] enhance the economic viability of business areas, vitality

[13:49] of business areas, and beautify our community.

[13:54] And whereas trees, wherever they are planted are a source

[13:57] of joy and spiritual renewal.

[14:01] Now therefore, I David Riman, mayor of the city

[14:04] of Troutdale, who hereby proclaim

[14:07] April 24th, 2026

[14:10] as Arbor Day in the city of Troutdale.

[14:13] And I urge all citizens to celebrate Arbor Day

[14:17] and to support efforts to protect our trees and woodlands.

[14:22] And further, I urge all citizens to plant trees

[14:26] to gladen the heart and promote the wellbeing of this

[14:29] and future generations dated this 14th day

[14:33] of April, 2026.

[14:36] Alright, Next I have a proclamation

[14:41] of Vietnamese American Remembrance day.

[14:47] Whereas Vietnamese refugees have proudly resided in the

[14:52] state of Oregon since the conclusion

[14:54] of the Vietnam War on April 30th, 1975.

[14:59] And whereas Vietnamese Americans have put forth their full

[15:03] toiling energy building the state of Oregon in a multitude

[15:08] of prominent areas, including industry, economy, culture,

[15:12] education, and military service.

[15:16] And whereas the Vietnamese Americans have counted on the

[15:21] state of Oregon as being their second heart, mind

[15:24] and family homeland.

[15:27] And whereas every year Vietnamese Americans celebrate

[15:32] remembrance day on April 30th to solemnly honor

[15:37] the 58,000 American servicemen

[15:40] and service women in

[15:42] that 810 soldiers from the state of Oregon

[15:47] and more than 250,000 South Vietnamese soldiers

[15:51] who sacrificed their lives in the line of duty for freedom

[15:56] and democracy in South Vietnam from November, 1955

[16:01] to April, 1975.

[16:04] Now therefore, I, David Rimma, mayor of the city

[16:08] of Troutdale, hereby proclaim April 30th to be Vietnamese

[16:13] American Remembrance Day in Troutdale

[16:16] and encourage all Trout Damians to join in this observance

[16:21] dated this 14th day of April, 2026.

[16:33] Alright, we'll move on then to

[16:37] agenda item number five, the second reading of

[16:44] what's it called, the fog orates.

[16:47] So

[16:56] - Good - Evening mayor and city council members.

[16:59] My name is Ryan ura, environmental specialist here

[17:02] with the city of Dale.

[17:04] I'll you a chance to

[17:07] - Get - The slides up and running.

[17:26] I also take this moment to announce that

[17:29] colleague Erica Armstrong is also online.

[17:32] She's the chief operator at the wastewater treatment plant

[17:35] and I have Travis Holton, the public works director here

[17:38] as well in case there are questions for either one of them.

[17:44] Yes, this is an ordinance revising the chapter 12.07

[17:47] of the Troutdale municipal code.

[17:49] It's the second reading tonight. Alright Sarah, I'm ready.

[17:54] Thank you. So again, we'll kind

[17:56] of quickly go over why the need for the code update.

[17:59] What is the goal, what are some updates

[18:02] from the last meeting we've had?

[18:03] And any questions? Alright Sarah, thank you.

[18:06] So why the update again?

[18:08] Well for the public owned treatment works,

[18:11] which is encompasses the collection system,

[18:14] the treatment plant and all that, there's odor issues

[18:18] that have been experienced at the TRA treatment plant.

[18:20] There's been overflows

[18:22] of the basin wall at the treatment plant reduce, reduce

[18:26] reductions in sludge settling, especially

[18:29] during warmer months.

[18:30] Sanitary sewer O overflows related to fog,

[18:33] increased maintenance costs

[18:35] and we got some estimates of about 200 to $325 per hour

[18:40] and that includes staff and the VAC labor costs

[18:44] and we have to be called out to go clean pipes and whatnot.

[18:49] You know, for the fog buildup in our collection system,

[18:53] there's a risk of NPDS permit discharge violations

[18:57] and there's risk of POTW interference

[18:59] and pass through, which is a pretreatment violations

[19:03] for food service establishments.

[19:05] This would require documentation of pump outs

[19:08] and provide clear standards for the businesses.

[19:13] This was an example I I showed earlier from earlier this

[19:16] year at the treatment plant, an aeration basin

[19:19] of the nocardia fog, no cardio bacteria

[19:24] creating a lot of this blanket

[19:28] of fog slide please.

[19:32] Yep. And here's some fog buildup in the collection system

[19:35] along, as you can see the yellow grease buildup on the sides

[19:40] that we have to go in and clean out periodically.

[19:43] And then what is the goal? So eliminate the fog related

[19:46] issues we're experiencing in the

[19:48] collection and treatment systems.

[19:50] Provide clear direction to food service establishments

[19:52] to achieve compliance,

[19:53] but also really to validate

[19:55] what they're likely already doing with their, you know,

[20:00] grease removal devices at their restaurants.

[20:05] So a few updates that we've had since our first reading.

[20:08] We did send out letters

[20:09] to all the food service establishments.

[20:12] We've removed some

[20:13] of the food grinder prohibition language from the code.

[20:16] We changed minimum service frequency

[20:19] to extend it a little bit from 30 to 45 days

[20:22] for smaller units and 90 to 120 days for the interceptors.

[20:27] We changed some variance language

[20:29] so there's no longer a professional study needed to be paid

[20:32] for by any restaurants.

[20:33] They would just rely strictly on the pump out manifests,

[20:36] which they're already probably receiving from their pumper

[20:40] when they come out and service these grease traps.

[20:43] And then there's an educational component as well

[20:45] that's built in partly into our software that we're using.

[20:48] But we may also have a component that we would do on site

[20:51] with the restaurants and their staff.

[20:53] So, okay. Sarah, next slide.

[20:56] So that, that, that was my updates for you

[20:59] and I if you had any questions.

[21:03] - Alright, thank you. Questions from the council?

[21:10] I, yes, Glen Sure. Yeah. Thanks Ryan.

[21:13] Yeah, I appreciate you contacting the restaurants.

[21:16] I think it's only fair to do that. Sure.

[21:20] I missed the part on the, in the new report on the,

[21:23] you talking about food garbage disposals,

[21:26] they're allowed, what's going on with that? Yeah,

[21:28] - So we, I removed that language

[21:29] because looking at the Fog Oregon, the fog,

[21:32] the Oregon Plumbing standard, they, they did have language

[21:35] that, you know, allowed food grinders or food disposals and

[21:39] and restaurants and I didn't know if that was gonna really

[21:43] solve the problem to require restaurants

[21:45] that had already installed it, you know, the cost

[21:47] of removing them and,

[21:49] and maybe even making any other changes

[21:51] that they needed to do.

[21:53] I just felt like maybe that was an undue burden,

[21:55] cost burden for them.

[21:56] And I'd rather see that money put towards pump outs clearly

[22:00] than in that removal of an existing device.

[22:05] - So there, if you have one you can keep it,

[22:07] but if your a new establishment you can't put one in.

[22:11] - I I didn't, I didn't require that either. Yep.

[22:14] Since the Oregon plumbing code already allows it

[22:16] and it has it in there, I didn't want kind

[22:20] of make a conflict of the two codes

[22:22] and I just figured we'll just leave, leave it be

[22:25] as is with the plumbing code.

[22:28] - And then how often does the c is the city required

[22:33] to jet blast those lines like in the main sewer?

[22:37] - You know, that that, that's one I'm gonna have

[22:39] to ask Erica if she can weigh in on,

[22:41] because I can't remember how often that is.

[22:43] Honestly,

[22:45] - It's not a requirement.

[22:46] It's more a maintenance that we just do

[22:52] to make sure that our pipes are running smoothly

[22:55] every year we clean a couple basins of our sewer,

[22:59] of our sewer system

[23:01] and we usually hit those greasy spots

[23:05] at least twice, sometimes up

[23:08] to four times a year depending on how bad those lines are.

[23:13] It's not required though.

[23:14] We just do it to help maintain flow.

[23:23] - I have one - Other one.

[23:26] - Oh yeah, I had asked the question of,

[23:30] with the random inspection program, how,

[23:32] how many violations did you see?

[23:34] Did you ever figure that out?

[23:35] - No, I did not. And I did not. I did not. No I did not.

[23:41] Sorry, sorry. Councilor White,

[23:46] - Let someone else go.

[23:47] Anyone else with questions?

[23:56] Well, did you think of anything else?

[23:57] I do have one concern that, you know,

[24:01] by having the company that's doing the work,

[24:04] pumping up the grease traps being the one,

[24:09] they're basically the ones that can help with the variance.

[24:12] It seems like kind of a conflict of interest for them to

[24:16] say, oh yeah, this customer only needs it once a year

[24:18] instead of three times a year.

[24:20] I just had a little concern about that. Well

[24:24] - Really it would be required still every 40 day,

[24:28] 45 day days if you have a hydro mechanical grease

[24:32] interceptor or a trap grease trap

[24:34] and 120 days for the interceptor.

[24:37] So we, we put some firm standards in there that,

[24:40] that would be the minimum frequency of pump outs.

[24:43] And then there's in the variance, let's say a manufacturer,

[24:46] as I've been told, they may have a very high efficiency

[24:49] grease interceptor that says okay

[24:52] and 25% is also the standard, I'm sorry,

[24:54] that we have established as, you know, the pump out rule.

[24:59] And so let's say if, if a variance says,

[25:02] well if this grease trap that was installed,

[25:05] that's a very high efficiency grease trap,

[25:07] says 75% is the rule, not necessarily 25%.

[25:11] Well then we would ask that the,

[25:12] the restaurant would provide us that documentation and

[25:15] and say well this is what's been installed instead.

[25:18] So it's not really the pumper

[25:20] that's gonna be telling the restaurants, oh you don't have

[25:22] to pump it out quite as much anymore or, or how

[25:26] however often they think it is,

[25:28] it's gonna be based on our own standards.

[25:31] - Okay. That's great.

[25:32] And then I guess my final question, is it, I read that

[25:37] restaurants can't skim grease off off the surface,

[25:41] but are they still allowed

[25:43] to clean their own grease trap without calling somebody in?

[25:46] - If, if they're able to,

[25:48] to fully evacuate the whole interceptor and,

[25:50] and take all that gr grease and and liquids and all that

[25:53] and dispose of it properly as somewhere else where,

[25:56] you know, they accept that material, that's fine.

[25:59] It's, it's not probably gonna be easy to do

[26:01] that if it's especially a large, you know,

[26:03] a thousand gallon interceptor.

[26:05] But that we we're not saying you can't Yeah. In the code.

[26:10] - So if there, if there are a thousand gallons,

[26:13] they're only allowed to be 25% full.

[26:17] - 'cause that's typically the performance standard

[26:18] for interceptors for them. The best

[26:21] - Septic tanks aren't that way.

[26:23] Yeah. Do you see this going anywhere for, I know you,

[26:27] you can only target commercial operations.

[26:32] Do you, do you see this being a new building requirement

[26:35] or anything down the road for new construction for homes?

[26:39] - Yeah, I would not be the one to be in installing

[26:41] or re requiring any of that.

[26:43] That would be far outside of my jurisdictional purview

[26:47] of the pretreatment program.

[26:49] Yeah. So thanks Brian.

[26:51] - You welcome. Good effort.

[26:54] Alright, if there's no other questions from the council,

[26:57] we did have, this is an ordinance

[27:01] and we are going to be considering adoption tonight,

[27:05] but I would open it

[27:08] to public comment if any before we act.

[27:12] So let's start with people participating on Zoom.

[27:16] Anyone wish to address the council on this matter?

[27:22] Seeing none. How about anyone in the room wish

[27:27] to address the council, Saul?

[27:30] Yes, you are welcome to

[27:36] - Now we Vietnamese community of Oregon.

[27:40] We have the certificate of appreciation to you

[27:45] and the, the thing with counselors.

[27:48] Yeah. First of all, my name is Tu.

[27:51] I am the president of the Vietnamese community

[27:53] of Oregon on behalf of my board.

[27:55] Thank you so much for the programation in

[28:00] recognizing the Vietnamese American day.

[28:04] Your ation reach beyond the story.

[28:08] The document is honor our people who

[28:13] carry abundant of

[28:18] being freedom in another country

[28:21] and they move across the ocean and resettle in the US

[28:25] and also especially honor the US

[28:29] and South Vietnamese soldiers who risk their life for

[28:34] freedom and democracy in South Vietnam from 1955

[28:38] to 1975 from the bottom of our heart.

[28:43] One more time. Thank you so much for the problem, Mason.

[28:46] And this is the thank you senator.

[28:50] - Well thank you so much. Thank you. And

[28:52] - Counselors list.

[28:54] - Thank you. Did you want me to stand up

[28:57] and take a picture or something?

[28:58] Yeah, please. Everyone on the council knows this isn't

[29:01] exactly the right order, but let's just do it.

[29:07] So I'll I'll come around Sarah if you want to take it or,

[29:14] and we, you come up and you can hand it to me

[29:19] or something and we will have somebody who take a picture.

[29:23] Yeah, you can hand it to me.

[29:26] Oh, this is, oh this is the proclamation. Very good.

[29:29] - Yeah. So - We can swap. Yes. Alright, excellent.

[29:34] Here we go. Thank you so much. Well thank you.

[29:36] Thank you very much.

[29:39] And we are, we are pleased and honored to have you here.

[29:43] Yeah. And you are all welcome here in Oregon.

[29:47] We revere the Vietnamese Americans. Thank you.

[29:50] - Thank you very much.

[30:08] - Is there anyone from the Nebraska Board of Agriculture?

[30:12] Well, they're here. That was their chance.

[30:14] They their chance. Yeah. They, they lost that. Okay. Anyway.

[30:19] Thank you. Delighted.

[30:23] All right, moving right along.

[30:24] We're we're, I'm inviting public comment.

[30:29] Saul, perhaps you want to come up,

[30:35] but thank you again for coming so much.

[30:43] - Hello, my name is Al Pompeo

[30:45] and I have couple questions for the program.

[30:49] One of the questions I don't very clear if we can clean,

[30:54] I start clean my grease out myself.

[30:58] - Yep. We, we did not remove any or,

[31:00] or imp impart any requirement

[31:03] that says you could not claim it yourself.

[31:06] We just ask that you're gonna be submitting a manifest

[31:08] online report to the city so

[31:10] that we can verify it's been cleaned.

[31:12] - That means I can have access to that system to put my

[31:17] - Yep, yep.

[31:18] And it's free to use it's no cost to the restaurants to use

[31:21] that online reporting system. That will, we

[31:23] - Now have, in my case, we need to clean very often.

[31:25] You know, I do, I need not, I need

[31:28] to clean my grease strap every month.

[31:32] Pay 500 bucks for each time is,

[31:35] and we can do in 20 minute very small.

[31:39] And they only have two buckets of really easy.

[31:43] We do, I we do every three weeks really don't stink my,

[31:46] our tractors easy.

[31:48] Okay, thank you. And another question I have is,

[31:52] can we have access to you, to your sketch,

[31:57] to cleaning the, the pipe?

[32:00] Because if we are responsibility for hundred percent,

[32:03] if something happen, I want to make sure we do maintenance

[32:07] where you guys have maintenance to,

[32:09] can we have access to the sketch?

[32:11] How often do you clean the pipes,

[32:14] - Erica?

[32:15] Is that something that we can offer the schedule

[32:20] - There?

[32:21] It isn't really, there isn't like a specific

[32:23] month that we do it.

[32:25] You know, we try and fit it in, in between

[32:29] other cyclical parts of us running the whole sewer system.

[32:34] So there isn't like a hard and fast schedule.

[32:37] But I'm sure

[32:40] if we knew it was happening in later in the month,

[32:43] maybe we could put something up.

[32:46] - Let me chime in on that.

[32:47] The, there isn't like a calendar that is laid out

[32:50] that says this is where we're gonna clean this pipe

[32:52] or that pipe looking forward.

[32:54] As, as Eric talked about, they work it in

[32:58] with their work plans week to week as to

[33:00] how much they can fit in and do

[33:01] and work their way through the system.

[33:03] So while I don't think we could tell, we could offer

[33:05] to provide a forward looking schedule

[33:07] of when a particular pipe is going to be cleaned,

[33:09] certainly our maintenance records are,

[33:12] are available if someone, you know,

[33:14] for instance if someone were to be charged

[33:18] for causing a suit to receive overflow

[33:21] and they felt that they shouldn't be,

[33:24] they could certainly request

[33:25] to see any maintenance records we had

[33:27] and make was available.

[33:29] - And then we can request the maintenance request of

[33:32] - Course the public information.

[33:33] - Okay. Thank you. That is the question. Thank you.

[33:36] That's it. Thank you. Very thank you.

[33:39] Anyone else wish to address this on the

[33:46] deliberations about this ordinance?

[33:49] Alright, all the matters before us.

[33:56] - I did. I thought of one kind of quick

[33:58] - Question. Yes. Oh,

[33:59] - On the first read I was a little confused when I asked the

[34:03] question of if when you guys jet spray the, the sewer

[34:07] to get the grease off, if

[34:10] that ends up at the sewer treatment plant.

[34:12] And I got, I kind

[34:15] of got a a mixed answer there.

[34:18] So, so is there any clarification on that

[34:21] if Travis was shaking his head?

[34:23] No, it doesn't go down there but Erica

[34:25] and you said it would, so maybe I misread it

[34:30] - About Erica.

[34:31] I could that if you want Yeah, go ahead Erica.

[34:33] So in those super greasy pipes

[34:35] that we know have grease buildup on a regular basis,

[34:39] that we go out and clean the,

[34:40] we call them our troubled areas.

[34:42] We know these pipes usually have

[34:44] some sort of buildup on them.

[34:45] We have a basket that we throw in at the downstream end.

[34:50] So as we're pulling the grease back towards the truck,

[34:53] pulling it down the pipe, we have a basket

[34:55] that intercepts most of those big chunks of grease.

[34:58] You know, obviously we won't be able

[35:00] to catch every single piece of it but you know,

[35:03] 'cause some of these manholes are like 10, 15 feet deep, we,

[35:07] we catch what we can and intercept it.

[35:09] But most of the time when we are cleaning,

[35:12] yes we're just trying to get it off the walls.

[35:15] But in those big heavy grease pipes,

[35:17] like you saw the pictures of those, we try

[35:19] and capture those chunks of when we can.

[35:25] - Thank you. - Of course. Anyone else?

[35:30] Final questions? Alright,

[35:35] well the matter is before us, it's in ordinance.

[35:38] We're revising chapter 12.07

[35:40] of the Troutdale municipal code pertaining

[35:43] to the sanitary sewer pre-treatment program.

[35:46] I would entertain a motion,

[35:49] - I'll make a motion that we adopt an ordinance revising

[35:53] chapter 12.07 of the Tridel municipal code pertaining

[35:57] to the sanitary sewer pre treatment program.

[36:01] - I'll second. - Alright Sarah, please call roll.

[36:06] - Okay. Councilor Allen? Yes. Councillor one? Yes.

[36:10] Mayor rma? Yes. Counselor White? Yes. Councilor Davidson?

[36:15] Yes. Councilor Lemi? Yes. And Councilor Andrews?

[36:19] - Yes. - Alright. Thank back.

[36:23] We'll move on to agenda item number six.

[36:25] Staff communications.

[36:27] - Thank you. Alright, I, I'll try to make it quick.

[36:31] We have April 18th is the bulk waste drop off.

[36:37] It's $25.

[36:39] - Oh that's not true. - Is it not true? Is it?

[36:41] - It depends on the size of your vehicle.

[36:44] - Ah, - I took a picture of it.

[36:48] - Alright. - And I can,

[36:50] - Well there is a fee.

[36:51] It's not, it's not free so it's less, it's a small fee.

[36:56] - Looks like a car.

[36:57] Minivan is $25 a pickup or a box truck is 40 vehicle

[37:01] and a trailer 65 and tires are 10 to $12 each.

[37:06] - Okay, thank you. Or - Is it?

[37:11] - It's at the transfer station here in Troutdale.

[37:14] - Troutdale. What was the date again? Mike?

[37:16] - April 18th. Saturday

[37:19] - This Saturday.

[37:22] And it goes from, sorry I should have gave you this.

[37:25] The hours it

[37:29] - Is - From at eight eight

[37:32] to 12, eight to noon

[37:37] - And bulk means any old - Thing.

[37:39] Accepted items are barbecues, bikes, box springs, carpeting,

[37:42] dressers, ex exercise equipment, furniture, lawnmowers,

[37:45] oil remove mattresses, silverware, sinks, tables, tires,

[37:48] toilets, towels, water heaters, windows not accepted.

[37:51] So these are not animal waste batteries, car engines, CFC,

[37:56] appliances, concrete dirt, sod, stumps, e-waste,

[37:59] fluorescent fixtures, waste household, hazardous materials,

[38:03] liquids, paint, paint, tanks, refrigerators, rocks, rocks,

[38:07] roofing materials and small AC units are not

[38:10] accept those are not accepted.

[38:12] - Okay. So excellent.

[38:15] - Other things that I have coming out,

[38:16] just giving you a heads up, we had some initial bids for

[38:21] the Buxton property up on the hill that came in.

[38:25] Basically the hard costs for construction 1.9 million

[38:30] with soft costs upward of six

[38:33] to $800,000 on top of that.

[38:36] So that's something for discussion for another day

[38:39] that we might want to discuss and strategize around.

[38:43] Just kind of giving you those initial

[38:44] numbers for fixes on that.

[38:47] A lot of that is the a DA requirements inside, outside

[38:53] as well as some asbestos mitigation, electrical,

[38:57] plumbing and the like.

[38:59] So not a cheap endeavor

[39:02] but something that we should probably discuss if

[39:04] we want to do that or not.

[39:07] - Well and I assume we need to discuss it fairly soon. Yes.

[39:12] This is the property we bought to be the new city hall.

[39:16] So we probably, I realize we've got a kind of a busy agenda

[39:21] for the next month or so,

[39:22] but we, we need to know what we're gonna do,

[39:27] what we're gonna move forward with that.

[39:30] That's staggering.

[39:32] Staggeringly more than sounded like before.

[39:36] Yes, go ahead Jesse. No I didn't have a comment.

[39:38] I was just, anyway, it's staggering.

[39:41] It's so staggering that we might need

[39:43] to reconsider what we were thinking.

[39:47] So, and I don't know if we, ed, this might be

[39:52] for you if we were to reconsider not keeping

[39:56] that property, trying to acquire another one

[39:59] or make use of another one, is that a subject that would

[40:03] be eligible for an executive

[40:05] session anyway?

[40:08] Something to think about, something to look into.

[40:10] Some parts would and some parts

[40:12] wouldn't probably not talk more later.

[40:14] Afraid of. Yeah. Okay.

[40:17] - Anyway, just kind of going through my checklist right now.

[40:20] Hood Cable Regulatory Committee,

[40:23] a commission is being dissolved.

[40:26] So we're working out in IGA right now between ourselves,

[40:31] Pono County Wood Village,

[40:34] and Fairview on how to process

[40:38] and distribute the remaining franchise fees for that.

[40:43] - We'll get some money. - It's a little bit of money.

[40:45] It's not much.

[40:49] 20,000, 20,000.

[40:53] It's, it's a good chunk of change.

[40:55] We can do some good stuff with it.

[40:56] Well we'll see if we can't bring it home.

[40:59] On top of that is working out the Community Enhancement

[41:03] grant program and bringing that back to Troutdale as well.

[41:08] So I'm working out an IGA right now with Metro

[41:10] and that I anticipate we'll be seeing those two IGAs coming

[41:14] before this council in May and June.

[41:18] And then of course the question earlier today was how's the

[41:22] fee schedule progressing?

[41:24] And so with the fee schedule we have

[41:27] to notify the Department of Building Codes

[41:28] and Management Division.

[41:31] I forget what their exact initials are,

[41:33] but you should be seeing that coming forward

[41:36] to you in May as well.

[41:37] May and June. So hopefully that will be adopted

[41:41] and in place for July one.

[41:44] Those are my big updates coming up.

[41:46] We also have Public Works week in May.

[41:49] Is it the week of the 17th or the 14th?

[41:54] I'd have to look at my calendar to be honest.

[41:56] It's in mid-May. Yeah, mid-May.

[41:58] Public works week coming down

[42:02] and then all next week we have budget stuff

[42:05] so, so I'm in, yeah,

[42:10] - Move on to council communications. Carol,

[42:14] - I have none.

[42:17] - Zach? - No, Carol's first. We're going around.

[42:22] Zach we'll get to you. You, you get to,

[42:26] you can move to adjourn.

[42:27] You clean up?

[42:29] - I'm good thank you. - I just had a couple

[42:34] things and I just want to address this.

[42:38] I just wanted to like put it out there about my,

[42:43] I don't really know what to do about it, but my concern,

[42:45] and this is not just about the city of Troutdale

[42:49] and I'm sure it's at, it's gonna be at the front

[42:50] of our minds this next week concerning our budget.

[42:53] But I'm just like concerned about the state of

[42:59] how this, maybe this state of Oregon is taxed

[43:04] and where tax money goes

[43:06] and I'm not really sure that there's anything

[43:08] that we can specifically do about that.

[43:10] It's probably more at higher levels than us,

[43:13] but I think we're gonna find out this next week

[43:18] that I know we're not the only city that is in this position

[43:22] where we're having to pinch pennies and remove things

[43:25] and take things away from the people who live here.

[43:28] So I'm just stating it like as a fact that it's

[43:33] concerning to me of being involved in doing this.

[43:37] I think that there needs to be some sort of reform somewhere

[43:40] to help cities Function at a higher

[43:44] level for the people that live there.

[43:46] So, and that's probably again above my pay grade.

[43:51] But I just wanted to respond to this comment from Frank

[43:56] this and I know I have get communicated a lot

[43:59] with Frank over the last couple years

[44:02] and he's very involved in these kind of things

[44:05] and really cares about these spaces as do I

[44:10] park next to my house is really kind of out

[44:12] of the way mostly and people walk their dogs

[44:14] and there's not really any

[44:18] living activity happening at the park.

[44:20] It's great. But spaces like this, I'm pretty sure

[44:22] that people moved over from a thousand acres

[44:25] and the, you know, the Department

[44:26] of State lands land over onto this side

[44:29] where they're now not being monitored.

[44:30] And I find that to be very concerning and I,

[44:33] and I find it concerning that nothing is being done.

[44:36] And I find it kind of ridiculous that

[44:42] the people who live here and are paying taxes

[44:44] and want to use the spaces that their taxes pay

[44:46] for aren't able to safely use those spaces.

[44:50] And I think that something needs to be done immediately.

[44:54] And I realize that's probably a super tall task.

[44:57] But I think that this is something that warrants that.

[45:01] And whether it's the, whoever's land,

[45:04] it ne if it's the port's land

[45:06] or if the sheriff needs to get involved, they need

[45:09] to do something like the, they can't dilly dally around

[45:11] with this, especially if there are dangerous weapons around.

[45:14] Whether they work or not is ir is,

[45:18] shouldn't matter whatsoever.

[45:19] It doesn't really matter.

[45:21] It's not a place for people to live.

[45:22] It's a place for people to use and hopefully use safely.

[45:26] And so I am going to mimic

[45:32] Frank's statement that hopefully

[45:36] steps will be taken and they'll be taken immediately to do

[45:40] with this problem and mitigate it for the future.

[45:45] So yeah, that's it.

[45:48] - Alright, well thanks.

[45:50] I, First of all,

[45:56] tomorrow is the deadline for filing the statement

[45:59] of economic interest.

[46:00] If any of you have failed to do that, don't forget,

[46:06] it's easy to forget.

[46:07] I do think we got reminders from Sarah,

[46:10] but it's been a while

[46:12] and so I just mentioned it, if you don't know

[46:17] what I'm talking about, see me afterwards.

[46:21] The last Monday there

[46:26] was a, the, there was a filming

[46:31] by an outfit that was hired by the Oregon Lottery

[46:36] who helped fund the Sharon Nesbitt Heritage Trail.

[46:40] And Sharon was here and I, Sharon

[46:43] and I went out on the trail and they did some filming

[46:46] and it's supposed to be on the Lottery's YouTube channel

[46:50] and some other social media.

[46:54] Haven't seen it yet, but I just mentioned it

[46:58] 'cause it was, it was a lot of fun.

[47:00] It was just a gorgeous day.

[47:02] And Sharon was just a GOG about how beautiful the

[47:06] Sharon Nesbitt Heritage Trail is.

[47:09] The new cage that you walk through is just perfect,

[47:13] not obtrusive, just right that you walk onto the tracks.

[47:19] Anyway, I mentioned that.

[47:21] And finally the Toronto Historical Society is hosting

[47:25] Kerry Tim Chuck, who's the president

[47:29] of the Oregon Historical Society.

[47:31] He's speaking at the Sam Cox building

[47:34] here in Troutdale at Glen Otto Park

[47:37] at two o'clock on Sunday the 19th.

[47:41] It's a program about preserving Oregon history.

[47:44] He's really entertaining and a very good speaker.

[47:48] And it kind of has to do with Oregon's 200,

[47:52] the 250th anniversary of the, of the Declaration

[47:56] of Independence and,

[47:57] and how Oregon is, is

[48:01] teaching its history as part of that.

[48:03] So with that, I'm done. One.

[48:09] - Yeah, no, I, I agree with Frank.

[48:11] That's the second time he's written the council.

[48:14] And to staff's credit it, it's not in Troutdale

[48:18] so it's difficult for us to really do a lot.

[48:22] But if we, if there's anything you can think of,

[48:25] I'll be glad to help out.

[48:26] I've been complaining about that forever.

[48:29] It's like I can't imagine seeing homeless camps at the Grand

[48:32] Canyon or other national parks.

[48:35] And this is the national and it, it's been going on for,

[48:39] for far too long and it, it's an asset to our community.

[48:43] It'll also help us get a development down at our URA

[48:48] if that can be cleaned up somehow.

[48:52] And then I also, this time of year I do kind of an annual

[48:56] safety message to the public about swimming

[48:59] in the Sandy River.

[49:00] We get a few warm days,

[49:02] but it takes a while for that river to warm up.

[49:04] And I've actually seen people swimming out there

[49:08] and it really frightens me to see 'em.

[49:10] But I always say wait till lifeguards start on Memorial Day.

[49:15] A MR has lifeguards at Glen Park from

[49:18] Memorial Day to Labor Day.

[49:19] That's all

[49:22] - I think I'd just like to piggyback on

[49:24] what Jeffrey said about of the budget

[49:27] and the shortfall that I think all of the cities

[49:30] around here are in

[49:33] and you know, we, we had the public safety fee

[49:39] and now we're looking at, well we, that money

[49:42] is already allocated and we're gonna ask potentially

[49:46] the people for more money.

[49:49] And I feel like we,

[49:51] before we do that, we, I would this out to you guys.

[49:57] Maybe we need to do our part, what we can

[50:01] and maybe make a joint statement, get all on board with

[50:06] creating something that maybe describes the situation

[50:10] that our communities in the cities all around us are in to.

[50:15] Hopefully we could all get on board.

[50:18] It wouldn't fall on deaf ears

[50:20] and maybe get something initiated at a higher level

[50:23] because our hands are tied behind our back

[50:25] by the powers that be.

[50:28] And looking at the budget, it's just depressing.

[50:33] So I don't know if anybody would be interested in together

[50:38] to do something like that,

[50:39] but I think it, it would be worth our time.

[50:44] So

[50:45] - Can I just say, I sent out an email this afternoon, it's

[50:50] president of the League of Oregon Cities.

[50:52] He's doing their reception,

[50:55] I think it's in June though, two months away.

[50:58] But I find that that's a good opportunity to talk

[51:03] to them directly 'cause they are usually the lobbying arm

[51:06] of the cities at Salem

[51:09] and so talk to them directly about your ideas and concepts

[51:14] and those sort of events.

[51:16] So if anyone can make that, I think

[51:18] I could probably make it, somebody wants to go with me

[51:21] or maybe a couple want to go with me

[51:23] and we'll go lobby it up and see if we can get something.

[51:29] Somebody ideas out there. Something.

[51:30] - Yeah, that could be good. Ron,

[51:36] - What's going on with the old city hall that, you know, I

[51:39] - Don't know.

[51:40] Am I allowed to say am I, I can only, I can only say rumor

[51:44] and hearsay, but they're moving over there, which is nice.

[51:50] They are working on the back deck

[51:52] and they finished the front pony wall up front on the lower

[51:56] side where the brewery side of the business is.

[52:00] And I don't know if I'm allowed to just say what I've heard,

[52:04] but I've heard I say it right.

[52:07] It's okay. I've heard

[52:09] that it's a mad cow brewery coming in there,

[52:12] so if it's mad Cow Brewery coming in there

[52:14] and they're coming in from, and I heard it from more than

[52:17] one source.

[52:19] So the rumor is is that it's coming from the plaza

[52:24] over there in Gresham. Gresham,

[52:26] - Yeah.

[52:27] - Over to this site.

[52:27] So that is, I heard it not only from one of our counselors,

[52:32] but also at a community event.

[52:36] So my guess is there's some credibility to that,

[52:40] but I have not seen the paperwork

[52:43] nor verified that that's who's coming in.

[52:45] - Yeah. - What I heard at the community event when I talked

[52:50] to them, it was the same one

[52:52] that there's quite a ways difference between what

[52:56] they think the value of that property is

[52:58] and what the owner thinks that there's a fair gap.

[53:03] So it wasn't looking funny how

[53:04] - That worked, - But,

[53:07] and you know, my response was, Hey,

[53:09] they got themselves into this situation.

[53:11] It's, but yeah, somebody, one

[53:14] of the businesses contacted me and wanted to get together

[53:18] and find out what was going on

[53:21] and I said, well, they've been working on it,

[53:23] they were working on it every day last week

[53:24] - Yes.

[53:25] And stuff. But I've seen 'em out there every day

[53:28] for the last couple weeks at least.

[53:30] So they're making good progress.

[53:32] And the real shining light right now is

[53:34] the old taste of village.

[53:36] Oh yeah. They're doing a phenomenal job with that structure,

[53:39] turning it into a hotel bed breakfast.

[53:41] So really excited to see that pop up. Other than that, no.

[53:48] - Okay, Zach, - Hey there. Thank you.

[53:53] Yeah, in light of Arbor Day, I, I guess I wanted

[53:57] to let you guys know, I, I did give open comments

[54:01] to the Bureau of Land Management last month

[54:04] during their comment period.

[54:06] They are currently considering a project

[54:09] that would open up millions of acres

[54:13] to unrestricted logging again across the state.

[54:16] So I think it's important that we really

[54:20] protect our public lands

[54:22] and I just wanted to let you guys know it's

[54:24] stuff like that's going on.

[54:26] I give public comment. I think it's important

[54:29] that we protect our, our state's resources

[54:31] and our outdoor industry

[54:32] and everything else we have going on there.

[54:36] And I heard about, there was unfortunately sound like there

[54:39] was a, a tragic death at the Amazon facility here

[54:42] in Troutdale on Sunday.

[54:43] So just wanted to, you know, say my heart goes out to

[54:46] that family and, you know, I hope for due diligence in

[54:52] investigating the cause and, you know,

[54:53] hopefully prevention in the future if it was related

[54:55] to working conditions.

[54:56] So, but yeah, I, I, that's all I got for today.

[55:01] Thank you guys. Appreciate it.

[55:04] - Move you adjourn Second. All in favor say aye. Aye.

[55:08] - Aye. - Aye.

[55:09] - Adjourned. Well any opposed to that? No, I don't hear it.

[55:14] My name. We are adjourned.

[55:18] - Hopefully we'll be done Monday. Right.

[55:22] Spend an hour ahead in the agenda. If we,

[55:29] we did talk to Maxine Decker

[55:33] and W's office last week.

Troutdale City Council

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