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[2:26]
Good evening. Welcome to the June 29th,
[2:27]
2026 Troy City Council meeting. Please
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rise for our invocation if you are able
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and remain standing for our pledge of
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allegiance.
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Father in heaven, we give you thanks for
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this day and thanks for the many
[2:39]
blessings you've given each and every
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one of us here in the city of Troy. We
[2:43]
ask that you continue to bless us
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through this beautiful summer evening
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through the halls of this city hall and
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here in our council chamber where we
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work together as a community for the
[2:53]
good of our city. We ask that you be
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with our first responders, our police,
[2:57]
our fire, our DPW workers, and all those
[3:00]
who make this city the amazing city that
[3:02]
it is. We ask that you be with those who
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are in need and maybe don't have the
[3:06]
strength to ask on their own. Please
[3:08]
give an extra special amount of care to
[3:10]
them. Please be with all in this
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community all throughout this region and
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bless us with your peace. In his name we
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pray. Amen.
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» I aliance to the flag of the United
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States of America and to the republic
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for which it stands. One nation under
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God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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» I'll call the June 29th, 2026 Tri City
[3:43]
Council meeting to order and ask for the
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roll call for Miss Dixon.
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>> Mayor Baker
[3:46]
>> here.
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>> Council member Bloom.
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>> Council member Brooks
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>> here. Council member Chamberlain
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>> here.
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>> Mayor Promchandanda.
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>> Council member Gun
[3:54]
>> here.
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>> Council member Hamilton
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>> here.
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>> We do have a quorum present. I did
[3:58]
receive advanced notification that mayor
[3:59]
promchand and council member Bloom would
[4:02]
be unable to attend this evening city
[4:04]
council meeting due to being out of the
[4:05]
county. So I will move resolve that Troy
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City Council hereby excuses the absences
[4:10]
of Mayor Prom Harach Chanda and council
[4:12]
member Anaisa Bloom at the regular city
[4:15]
council meeting of June 29th 2026 due to
[4:18]
being out of the county. support.
[4:20]
>> Moved by the chair, supported by council
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member Chamberlain, that we approve and
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excuse the absences of Mayor Promchand
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and Council Member Bloom for the reasons
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stated
[4:30]
>> a moment ago. Any discussion?
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>> The vote, Miss Dixon.
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>> Mayor Baker,
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>> yes.
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>> Council member Brooks,
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>> yes.
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>> Council member Chamberlain,
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>> yes.
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>> Council member Gun,
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>> yes.
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>> Council member Hamilton,
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>> yes.
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>> Motion carries. Next up are certificates
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of recognition and special
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presentations. We have three this
[4:47]
evening. C1 is the 2026 MAMC My
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Excellence Award for Public Outreach
[4:53]
presented to marketing coordinator Kayla
[4:55]
McKG. And while I come down to the
[4:57]
podium, I'm going to have City Clerk
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Dixon explain a little bit about that.
[5:00]
>> Thank you, Mayor. Uh the Michigan
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Association of Municipal Clerks every
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year awards MI Excellence Awards to
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municipalities um who've demonstrated
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excellence in a very variety of
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subjects. The city of Troy this year was
[5:13]
awarded the MIcconsense Award for public
[5:15]
outreach for our campaign um advertising
[5:18]
our new precinct map that we ran all of
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last year and we're going to continue to
[5:22]
run this year. It's the kind of a play
[5:24]
on Finding Nemo with an under the sea
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theme and Kayla did all of the graphic
[5:29]
work and did a website posters um a
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mailer that went out went out to all
[5:34]
households as well as social media posts
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and it continues on and um we've gotten
[5:38]
a lot of compliments and praise even
[5:40]
from other municipalities for it. So,
[5:42]
great job, Kayla.
[5:43]
>> That's awesome. So, one of Kayla's
[5:44]
favorite things to do is public
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speaking.
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>> It's not at all, but she's really good
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at public outreach with graphic work.
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So, I want to on behalf of all of us,
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Kayla, I want to say congratulations.
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This is a really great honor for you and
[5:56]
for our city as a whole. Do you want to
[5:57]
just give a a quick little blurb on what
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it's about and what you feel about it?
[6:01]
>> Yes. Um, I just wanted to say thank you
[6:05]
to Ailen Dixon for her collaboration in
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the clerk's department for their
[6:10]
collaboration on the project. And I also
[6:13]
wanted to thank Courtney Flynn, the
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communications director as well for her
[6:17]
involvement.
[6:18]
>> Awesome. See, well, here's the thing.
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So, I have no problem speaking way
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probably too much in front of people. I
[6:24]
have no issue with that, but my graphic
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design work sucks. So, there's takes
[6:27]
talents for everybody to get things
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done. I'm gonna I'm gonna take a picture
[6:30]
with this, but we really are proud of
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you and um I know that everybody
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certainly Courtney and Ailen the people
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you mentioned really are are proud of
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the work that you've done and you're
[6:38]
helping making our city shine, Kayla.
[6:39]
So, thank you
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[applause]
[7:00]
She really does great work and also
[7:02]
hates speaking in front of public. So
[7:04]
there you go. It's a great thing.
[7:05]
[laughter] Um, next up, C2 is a
[7:07]
proclamation to recognize the city of
[7:09]
Troy parks and recreation departments
[7:11]
for positively contributing to the
[7:13]
health and wellness of the city. Got a
[7:15]
group coming up. All right.
[7:18]
Now, I am going to read this
[7:20]
proclamation into the record.
[7:23]
There's some good stuff in here. So, as
[7:24]
I said, this is a proclamation to
[7:26]
recognize the city of Troy parks and
[7:28]
recreation departments for positively
[7:29]
contributing to the health and wellness
[7:31]
of the city. Whereas, parks and
[7:33]
recreation are integral to the quality
[7:35]
of life enjoyed by residents throughout
[7:37]
the country, including in here in the
[7:39]
city of Troy. And whereas the city of
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Troy is home to more than 900 acres of
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parkland and that provide year-round
[7:46]
recreational opportunities for residents
[7:48]
and visitors of all ages and abilities.
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And whereas the city of Troy parks and
[7:53]
recreation departments offer extensive
[7:55]
programming, facilities, events, and
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activities that encourage lifelong
[8:00]
recreation, wellness, learning, and
[8:02]
community connections at all level of
[8:04]
participation. And whereas the city of
[8:06]
Troy parks and recreation departments
[8:08]
promote health and wellness by improving
[8:11]
the physical and mental health of
[8:13]
individuals and families and providing
[8:15]
opportunities for active and healthy
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lifestyles. And whereas the city of Troy
[8:19]
parks and recreation departments
[8:22]
encourage physical activity through
[8:23]
access to trails, sports fields,
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playgrounds, aquatic facilities, open
[8:28]
spaces, and numerous other amenities
[8:30]
designed to support healthy living. And
[8:32]
whereas parks and recreation programming
[8:34]
and educational opportunities offered
[8:36]
through the city of Troy, including
[8:38]
youth sports, camps, enrichment
[8:40]
programs, and environmental education,
[8:42]
play a critical role in childhood
[8:44]
development and lifelong learning.
[8:48]
And whereas parks and recreation
[8:50]
opportunities contribute to the economic
[8:52]
vitality of the city of Troy by
[8:53]
enhancing property values, supporting
[8:55]
tourism, attracting and retaining
[8:57]
businesses, and improving overall
[8:59]
community desiraability. And whereas the
[9:02]
city of Troy parks and recreation
[9:03]
departments have earned statewide
[9:05]
recognition through multiple Michigan
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Recreation and Park Association or M
[9:09]
Parks awards, including the 2025 park
[9:12]
design award for the GM Stein Community
[9:14]
Park and the seasonal brochure activity
[9:17]
guide award for the winter 2526
[9:19]
recreation guide reflecting the city's
[9:22]
commitment to excellence in park
[9:23]
development, recreation programming, and
[9:26]
community engagement. And whereas the US
[9:28]
House of Representatives has designated
[9:30]
July as Parks and Recreation Month. And
[9:33]
whereas the city of Troy recognizes and
[9:35]
celebrates the many benefits derived
[9:37]
from its parks, recreation facilities,
[9:39]
programs, and dedicated staff who enrich
[9:41]
the lives of residents every day. Now,
[9:44]
therefore, be it resolved that the mayor
[9:46]
and city council recognize July as Parks
[9:48]
and Recreation Month to further
[9:50]
highlight the importance of the city of
[9:52]
Troy parks and recreation departments to
[9:54]
the local community. And of course, we
[9:56]
commend and thank our parks and
[9:57]
recreations department for all the
[9:58]
amazing work they do for our community.
[10:00]
All of you sitting here tonight and all
[10:02]
of you who are probably there's a lot
[10:03]
more of you out in our parks right now
[10:05]
enjoying the the beautiful weather. So,
[10:06]
this proclamation is presented this 29th
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day of June, 2026. Signed by myself as
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the mayor. All member of our city
[10:12]
members of our city council have signed
[10:14]
it. Allison, you're next to me, but I
[10:16]
don't know if I'm support Who am I who
[10:17]
am I really giving it to?
[10:19]
>> You.
[10:19]
>> Yeah.
[10:21]
>> All right. I'll go to Alison. Thank you,
[10:22]
Alison. All of our
[10:23]
>> Allison and I have been we've been we
[10:25]
have our concert series on Wednesdays
[10:27]
and we seem to have not the best weather
[10:28]
for concerts but she's making it work.
[10:31]
So, you know, let's get over a little
[10:32]
bit. Yeah, let's do a photo. Actually,
[10:34]
why don't you
[10:36]
bring out
[11:02]
That was a long one, but basically we're
[11:05]
very excited that July is officially
[11:07]
recognized as Parks and Recreation Month
[11:09]
here in Troy. Um, we're excited to
[11:11]
celebrate all uh month long, but we
[11:14]
especially invite you to our third
[11:15]
annual Midsummer Bash to celebrate,
[11:17]
which is on Saturday, July 11th at Gene
[11:21]
Mstein Community Park, which we won our
[11:22]
park design award for. Um, and it's free
[11:26]
for all ages from 11:00 a.m. to 3:00
[11:28]
p.m. We'll have an awesome touch a truck
[11:30]
thanks to our fire department, some
[11:32]
tractor rides thanks to our parks
[11:34]
department, um, face painting, balloon
[11:37]
twisting, bounce houses, climbing tower.
[11:39]
So, um, we invite you to celebrate with
[11:41]
us and thanks so much.
[11:43]
>> What about this Wednesday? What's
[11:44]
happening this Wednesday with some big
[11:45]
changes?
[11:46]
>> This Wednesday we have our America 250
[11:49]
event which is moved inside um to the
[11:52]
Troy Senior Center within the community
[11:54]
center due to the heat advisory. And
[11:57]
then we also have our Captain Fantastic
[12:00]
Elton John tribute concert which is also
[12:03]
inside at the Troy Community Center. And
[12:05]
then the farmers market which is every
[12:06]
Wednesday from 3:00 to 7:00 pm at Stein
[12:09]
Park.
[12:10]
>> Awesome. Thank you.
[12:11]
>> Thank you.
[12:13]
[applause]
[12:21]
» All right. C3 is a proclamation to
[12:23]
recognize Detroit Cowboys for 70 years
[12:25]
of service in local youth sports. So
[12:28]
you're all let's come on up.
[12:36]
should have worn a green tie.
[12:42]
» All right. So, this is a proclamation to
[12:44]
recognize the Troy Cowboys for 70 years
[12:46]
of service in local youth sports.
[12:48]
Whereas the Troy Youth Football
[12:50]
Association, commonly known as the Troy
[12:51]
Cowboys, is an all volunteer
[12:53]
organization dedicated to providing
[12:55]
young athletes with opportunities to
[12:57]
develop football and cheerleading skills
[12:59]
in a positive, safe, and supportive
[13:01]
environment. And whereas since 1956, the
[13:05]
Troy Cowboys have served generations of
[13:06]
young athletes, fostering personal
[13:09]
growth, character development, and a
[13:11]
strong sense of community through
[13:13]
organized athletics. And whereas the
[13:15]
Troy Cowboys emphasize the values of
[13:17]
teamwork, integrity, sportsmanship,
[13:20]
discipline, and self-confidence, helping
[13:22]
young people build skills and
[13:24]
relationships that extend beyond the
[13:26]
playing field. And whereas the Troy
[13:28]
Youth Football Association is a
[13:30]
registered 501c3 nonprofit organization
[13:33]
whose volunteers dedicate countless
[13:35]
hours to mentoring youth and creating
[13:37]
meaningful opportunities for athletic
[13:39]
participation and personal development.
[13:41]
And whereas the Troy Cowboys welcomes
[13:43]
athletes of all skill levels, ages 5
[13:45]
through 13, from Troy and surrounding
[13:47]
communities, ensuring that youth have
[13:49]
access to programs that encourage
[13:51]
physical activity, healthy competition,
[13:53]
and inclusion. And whereas as members of
[13:56]
the Oakland MCOME Youth Football
[13:58]
Association, the Troy Cowboys support a
[14:00]
mission that promotes citizenship, good
[14:02]
sportsmanship, fellowship,
[14:04]
participation, and physical development
[14:07]
among young athletes throughout the
[14:08]
region. And whereas youth sports
[14:11]
organizations such as the Troy Cowboys
[14:13]
strengthen the fabric of our community
[14:15]
by teaching leadership, perseverance,
[14:17]
respect, and teamwork while creating
[14:19]
lasting memories for participants and
[14:21]
their families. And whereas the city of
[14:24]
Troy recognizes the positive impact the
[14:26]
Troy Cowboys have made on the lives of
[14:28]
thousands of young athletes and their
[14:30]
families through seven decades of
[14:32]
service to the community. Now,
[14:34]
therefore, be it resolved that the mayor
[14:36]
and city council congratulate the Troy
[14:38]
Cowboys on 70 years of serving the Troy
[14:41]
community and to help instill important
[14:43]
life lessons to local youth. And be it
[14:46]
further resolved that the Troy City
[14:47]
Council and all of Troy's residents
[14:50]
thank the TR Troy Cowboys for creating a
[14:52]
program that will continue to positively
[14:54]
impact our youth. So this proclamation
[14:56]
is presented this 29th day of June.
[14:58]
Again, it's signed by myself as mayor.
[14:59]
All members of our Troy City Council
[15:01]
have signed it. I'm honored that you
[15:02]
guys are here. I think 70 years is quite
[15:04]
an accomplishment. The city's only 71
[15:06]
years old. So you've been here almost as
[15:08]
long. I also know this is an advocacy
[15:10]
group. They're amazing. We we built some
[15:12]
pickle ball fields in Firefighter Spark.
[15:14]
They had some concerns about our
[15:16]
practice field. We heard it and we
[15:17]
worked together and we resolved it.
[15:18]
That's the best part. So,
[15:19]
congratulations. I think you're an
[15:21]
awesome group. This is a So many people
[15:23]
in our community have been touched by
[15:24]
the Cowboys and continue to. So,
[15:26]
>> thank the parks and department.
[15:28]
>> Well, if the parks are recogniz
[16:02]
One more.
[16:10]
» Awesome.
[16:12]
>> [applause]
[16:16]
» Thank you um Mayor Baker and the city
[16:18]
council for uh having us today. So my
[16:21]
name is Christina Rupy. I am the
[16:22]
president of the Troy Cowboys. It is an
[16:24]
honor and a privilege to lead an
[16:26]
organization for the youth in our city
[16:28]
and it is a partnership that we have
[16:30]
with the city and it's wonderful to see
[16:33]
my own children in the program and watch
[16:35]
the other kids that come through this
[16:36]
program and watch them enjoy sports,
[16:39]
enjoy learning what it means to be part
[16:41]
of a team because that's what gets you
[16:43]
through life is learning how to be on a
[16:45]
team. So, thank you again to the city
[16:47]
and uh we appreciate the award. Thank
[16:49]
you, Mayor. [applause]
[17:09]
That concludes certificates of
[17:11]
recognition of special presentations
[17:12]
this evening. We don't have any
[17:13]
carryover items, so we move on to public
[17:15]
hearings. We do have one tonight. E1 is
[17:17]
a public hearing, adoption of Brownfield
[17:19]
redevelopment plan number 13 for Backard
[17:21]
Lofts redevelopment. Parcel number
[17:24]
88-20-26-351-016.
[17:28]
That'll be introduced by Mark Adams, our
[17:30]
economic development manager.
[17:32]
>> Good evening, mayor. Good evening,
[17:34]
council. I'm pleased to be able to do to
[17:37]
introduce this project to the city of
[17:39]
Troy. It's an adaptive reuse u uh loss
[17:43]
of 1441 East Maple, which
[17:48]
may have been known to most of you as
[17:50]
the media genesis property. our good
[17:53]
friends uh Brad and Antoine own that
[17:56]
particular um building and it's sort of
[18:00]
full circle for me because I helped them
[18:03]
move into it in my previous job. So uh
[18:06]
I'm glad to see that it's getting
[18:09]
continuous uh use. This particular
[18:12]
project is part of our brownfield
[18:14]
program. And as most of you know, our
[18:17]
brownfield program is an incentive we
[18:19]
use to help with environmentally
[18:22]
challenged, obsolescence,
[18:25]
and um uh blighted properties here in
[18:28]
the city of Troy to get them um
[18:30]
redevelopment redeveloped. This
[18:32]
particular project also is part of a new
[18:36]
program that the state has come up with
[18:39]
along with MISTA to assist with the
[18:41]
housing crisis that we're having here in
[18:44]
um southeastern Michigan, really the
[18:47]
state of Michigan. And it allows for
[18:50]
additional costs for um uh redevelopment
[18:55]
of infrastructure and also for uh income
[19:00]
um issues. um with these types of
[19:03]
developments that are going to be using
[19:05]
housing, but we're only going to be
[19:07]
focusing in on the um uh infrastructure
[19:11]
portion of the housing plan. And we had
[19:15]
our consultant take a look at it to make
[19:17]
sure it met all the specifications
[19:20]
uh of this particular uh brownfield uh
[19:23]
housing tiff. and a synopsis of it was
[19:27]
included in in your packet. But
[19:29]
basically what they're doing is they're
[19:31]
redeveloping this redeveloping this
[19:34]
property into retail office and 28
[19:38]
units.
[19:40]
50% or half of the units 14 will be
[19:43]
income qualified units.
[19:47]
uh there'll be 10 single um um bedrooms
[19:51]
and and four uh twin bedrooms, two bedrooms uh units.
[19:58]
So um the market qualified
[20:02]
um units will be at about $1,900.
[20:07]
Um the income qualified units will be at
[20:10]
about $1,900 and the market rate would
[20:13]
be $2,300 for the the single bedrooms.
[20:16]
For the two bedrooms, it would be about
[20:21]
$2,300
[20:23]
uh for the income qualified, but the
[20:26]
market rate would be $2,700.
[20:29]
So that's a a a savings. And we all know
[20:33]
that we need more affordable housing
[20:35]
here um in throughout the state of
[20:38]
Michigan. Uh how the brownfield program
[20:42]
works and most of you already know that
[20:44]
but I just want to mention it for the
[20:47]
audience that's that's watching here is
[20:49]
that a particular piece of property has
[20:52]
a baseline assessment for for the year
[20:55]
that it's going to start. And as an
[20:57]
example, I would say for instance, if
[20:59]
the piece of property was assessed at
[21:03]
$10,000
[21:05]
and then the development was going to at
[21:08]
the end of 10 years make it a a million
[21:12]
dollar, that incremental increase in
[21:15]
taxes is what is used to reimburse the
[21:19]
developer a certain amount of the
[21:21]
eligible cost that's in the work plan.
[21:24]
So if you have $10,000 and it's going to
[21:29]
go to a couple of billion and it's
[21:31]
200,000. So once they get to the value
[21:36]
to where we can reimburse the the the
[21:40]
uh 200,000 then that's how the program
[21:44]
works. So it's no funds that are
[21:47]
actually coming out of any type of pot
[21:50]
of money. It's based upon the
[21:53]
incremental increase in value of the
[21:55]
property, which is something that um is is a great tool to use for um
[22:02]
properties that we're having um issues
[22:05]
uh with. Um, with that, what I want to
[22:08]
do is bring up the developer to provide
[22:11]
some additional commentary and to go
[22:14]
over this slide. But also, um, we do
[22:17]
have a consultant that we were working
[22:18]
with and with fishback and that's Logan
[22:22]
Mahal right right there. And none of
[22:25]
these problem projects happened by
[22:27]
themselves. It was a lot of work and a
[22:29]
lot of uh, assistance from the team here
[22:32]
in Troy. And I want to thank uh, Chris.
[22:35]
I want to thank Melissa. I want to thank
[22:37]
the finance department. Uh Rob Rob is
[22:40]
here. I want to thank Kelly. And also I
[22:43]
want to thank Lori. She put in a a lot
[22:46]
of work uh also on this particular
[22:49]
project. So with that, I'm going to
[22:51]
bring up Milan, our the developer, to go
[22:55]
over the slides. And I think you just go
[22:57]
left to go forward, right to go back.
[23:01]
>> Okay. So floor is yours.
[23:03]
>> Thank you.
[23:05]
everybody, Mayor Baker,
[23:07]
members of the council, members of the
[23:09]
team here. Thank you so much for having
[23:11]
us and we're very excited about this
[23:13]
project. Um I was hoping I could just
[23:15]
spend a moment telling you why we're
[23:16]
doing this. Um this building at the
[23:19]
corner of Maple and Stevenson has long
[23:22]
been the media genesis building and
[23:23]
because of changes that happened during
[23:25]
COVID to our culture and the way we work
[23:27]
that building emptied out pretty fast.
[23:29]
The owner of that building said that
[23:31]
prior to co they had a full building
[23:33]
full of employees and afterward 80% of
[23:35]
their employees were working remotely
[23:37]
and the building was empty. Here we come
[23:39]
as a developer who does adaptive reuse
[23:42]
projects. This is kind of what we focus
[23:44]
on. Uh and said, "Well, gosh, that's a
[23:46]
great location. The building has great
[23:48]
bones. We love Troy. What can we do with
[23:51]
it?" And through uh you know an
[23:54]
iterative process uh with a bunch of bad
[23:57]
ideas we came to a great idea uh that is
[24:00]
we need to make this into a multif
[24:02]
family property with some mixeduse
[24:04]
elements. Um this is also not just a
[24:06]
real estate investment. Um this is our
[24:08]
home. So I grew up 10 miles west of
[24:10]
here. My wife went to Troy High. Uh my
[24:13]
family is still here in Troy. This is
[24:14]
home for us. And this part of Troy
[24:17]
hasn't gotten enough attention in my
[24:18]
opinion. we want to be a part of of uh
[24:21]
reviving it and improving it. So um in
[24:24]
particular uh the the company that you
[24:27]
know our our development company is
[24:29]
called Blackacre and we are adaptive
[24:31]
reuse experts. Um, we've been doing
[24:34]
projects like this in other
[24:35]
municipalities
[24:37]
uh for about 8 years now. And the
[24:40]
flagship property that we are just
[24:42]
launching now that we've been working on
[24:43]
for about four years is the Pontiac
[24:46]
State Bank building in downtown Pontiac.
[24:48]
Uh it is the uh oldest and largest
[24:51]
building in Pontiac, 115,000 square ft,
[24:55]
uh 14 stories, and it is now open for
[24:57]
business and leasing 114 uh luxury
[25:01]
apartment units. Part of how we
[25:03]
accomplished that was through a
[25:04]
brownfield uh credit as well as some
[25:07]
MISTA uh credit uh that we were able to
[25:09]
access. But we took a lot of the
[25:12]
learning there and I I don't know if you
[25:13]
caught that. We started that project
[25:15]
four years ago. Uh and we we went to
[25:17]
school on that project and here we are
[25:19]
in Troy taking all the learning and
[25:21]
going to focus on this building and make
[25:23]
it happen in about 9 or 10 months. Uh so
[25:26]
uh Troy gets the benefit of all of uh
[25:29]
Pontiac's teachings. Um this is the
[25:32]
Pontiac State Bank building that I
[25:33]
mentioned. Uh it's a 100-year-old tower
[25:36]
uh and and it's now a mixeduse
[25:38]
development. The first four floors are
[25:40]
retail and office and then uh the top 10
[25:43]
are all residential units. F leasing in
[25:46]
full swing, we're about 30% leased. Uh
[25:48]
we're about 40 days in and we think
[25:50]
we'll be full by the end of the year. Uh
[25:52]
again, there are some incomerestricted
[25:54]
units in this building. Uh similar but
[25:56]
different to the way we've structured it
[25:58]
here in Troy. Um this is a little bit of
[26:01]
a before and after of what we can do.
[26:03]
And this is a picture of the Pontiac
[26:06]
building. Uh this is an actual office
[26:09]
that we found and this was one of the
[26:10]
nicer ones. Uh and we turned it into a
[26:14]
beautiful corner apartment uh with
[26:17]
that's a a one-bedroom unit in that
[26:19]
corner there. Uh with brand new windows,
[26:22]
new floors, new kitchens, new uh uh
[26:25]
paint of course on the wall and drywall,
[26:27]
new electrical, new everything. Uh and
[26:29]
we took these this building down to the
[26:31]
studs. It's exactly the same way we're
[26:32]
going to do it in Troy uh with the uh
[26:34]
1441 East Maple Building, but you can
[26:37]
sort of see what it ends up looking
[26:38]
like.
[26:40]
Uh this particular property is is
[26:42]
obviously much smaller than the Pontiac
[26:44]
building. This is a 35,000t building
[26:46]
that is uh only four stories. It
[26:49]
actually makes it a in certain ways a
[26:51]
little more difficult to develop. And
[26:53]
I'll explain why. Taking an office
[26:55]
building and making it into apartments
[26:58]
only works if you have skinny buildings.
[27:00]
fat buildings don't let you do it
[27:02]
because you have these interior spaces
[27:04]
with no windows where nobody wants to
[27:05]
live. Luckily, this is a skinny
[27:07]
building. Uh but these buildings, office
[27:10]
buildings were made with singular
[27:12]
bathroom uh uh uh uh chases through the
[27:16]
building. So, all the bathrooms were on
[27:18]
the same part of the building uh on all
[27:20]
four floors on both sides of the
[27:22]
building. Well, here we need plumbing
[27:23]
throughout the building for kitchens and
[27:24]
bathrooms. So, there's a lot of saw
[27:26]
cutting, there's a lot of plumbing that
[27:28]
goes into it. There's of course framing
[27:30]
and electrical and all that. And so
[27:32]
that's the design process, the redesign
[27:34]
process of a building like this. The
[27:37]
other thing is it looks like an office
[27:38]
building and we want to make it look
[27:40]
like a home. So one of the things we're
[27:42]
doing is we're going to take that uh
[27:44]
brown paneling that you can see in the
[27:46]
pictures. Uh it kind of looks like wood.
[27:48]
It's not. It's a composite material, but
[27:50]
we're able to wrap it around the
[27:51]
building uh as well as uh strip some of
[27:54]
the the smoke uh tinting from the
[27:57]
windows to make it look a little bit
[27:58]
more like a home and less like an office
[28:00]
building. Uh this will end up having 28
[28:03]
units, 14 on the second floor, 14 on the
[28:07]
third floor. Uh they'll be almost
[28:10]
identical floor plans. Again, that helps
[28:11]
with plumbing and electrical. And then
[28:13]
down on the ground floor, which is not
[28:16]
quite a full floor if you know the
[28:17]
building, there's a drive-thru under the
[28:19]
building that will have a mixture of
[28:21]
tenant amenities, uh, such as lounge
[28:24]
areas, co-working spaces. There will be
[28:27]
a small retail element where we're
[28:29]
thinking about what to put there.
[28:31]
There's some ideas of a bike shop or a
[28:33]
coffee shop, uh, potentially child care
[28:35]
operator. We're we're still working out
[28:37]
what makes sense for the residents and
[28:39]
for the area. And then the outdoor area
[28:41]
will be re Do I have pictures of this?
[28:43]
No. Uh the outdoor area will be
[28:45]
redeveloped into uh an outdoor amenity
[28:48]
space for the tenants, including seating
[28:51]
areas, outdoor barbecue grills, as well
[28:54]
as a pickle ball court. Uh and this will
[28:57]
be a free tenant amenity. A lot of that
[28:59]
first floor, indoor and outdoor, are
[29:02]
free tenant amenities for the tenants.
[29:04]
So all built in for people to live,
[29:06]
work, play in the same space.
[29:09]
This is actual renderings of what we
[29:12]
plan to do in Troy. So, these are
[29:14]
actually what it'll end up looking like.
[29:16]
For example, you notice that the windows
[29:19]
start only 2 ft above the floor. Right
[29:22]
now, they're floor to ceiling. It's not
[29:23]
really how we want to live necessarily.
[29:25]
So, we're creating uh the drywall across
[29:28]
and that's part of what will be covered
[29:29]
by the wood paneling or the wood
[29:31]
composite paneling on the other side. Uh
[29:33]
the uh ceilings will be uh fully
[29:37]
drywalled with uh can lighting. Uh we'll
[29:40]
put in of course modern kitchens and
[29:42]
appliances. Uh uh the floors will be a
[29:45]
mixture of hardwood and and uh low pile
[29:47]
carpet uh for hightra type of use,
[29:50]
families with children. Um as I
[29:52]
mentioned, a resident lounge, a fitness
[29:54]
center, outdoor lounge, and then some
[29:57]
limited commercial spaces on the first
[29:59]
floor. uh the uh apartments as uh Mr.
[30:02]
Adams mentioned are ones and twos, one
[30:04]
bedrooms and two bedrooms, 10 ones and
[30:06]
four twos. Uh and that is how we
[30:09]
engineered the prices with meeting MISTA
[30:12]
standards for uh uh incomerestricted
[30:15]
pricing as well as meeting the
[30:16]
brownfield standards.
[30:19]
Um a little bit about the costs of this.
[30:22]
Well, uh the the as completed value will
[30:25]
be $6.3 million. That's adding in the
[30:29]
cost of acquiring the building, the
[30:30]
holding costs and soft costs, as well as
[30:32]
all of the hard costs of building and uh
[30:35]
finishing the building, uh finishing the
[30:37]
construction, excuse me. Um, in
[30:40]
particular, I you can read all the
[30:41]
categories, but these categories are
[30:43]
exactly how we calculate the brownfield
[30:45]
reimbursement. And and as Mr. Adams
[30:47]
said, this is no new money for the city
[30:49]
of Troy. This is us investing in the
[30:52]
property, creating more tax revenue, and
[30:54]
then asking for a piece of it back over
[30:56]
a period of time to help pay for the
[30:58]
construction and to help keep rents
[31:00]
down. This is how we keep rents down.
[31:04]
Um, this describes a little bit of what
[31:07]
I just said, but in particular, I want
[31:09]
to focus on that one, two, three, fourth
[31:12]
one. Uh, Troy has long, and I've grown
[31:14]
up in this area. I've been here my
[31:15]
entire life. Troy has been the
[31:17]
commercial center of Oakland County and
[31:18]
Metro Detroit forever. And today, people
[31:22]
work and live differently. And I think
[31:23]
that when we can take an office building
[31:26]
and turn it into housing, it's a twofer
[31:29]
for the city. Uh you're taking office
[31:31]
offline that you don't need, that you
[31:33]
have over, you know, maybe more office
[31:34]
than you need right now in Troy, and
[31:36]
you're creating housing that you don't
[31:37]
have. So, I feel like this could be the
[31:40]
first of several such projects. We hope
[31:42]
it is. And if this is successful, we're
[31:44]
already eyes open looking for other
[31:46]
properties here in Troy to do a similar
[31:47]
style project.
[31:50]
Um, that is sort of concludes our
[31:52]
slides. Again, I want to say that this
[31:54]
is something very important to us. This
[31:56]
is home for us. We're not out oftowners.
[31:59]
We're not trying to make a buck and get
[32:01]
out of here. This is a project we are
[32:03]
going to own long term and manage long
[32:04]
term. Uh, we're not flippers. Uh, and if
[32:07]
you look at all of our other projects
[32:08]
and and Mr. Adams and and some of the
[32:10]
team from the city came to see our
[32:12]
Pontiac project. That's a long-term hold
[32:14]
for us. Everything we do, this is my
[32:16]
family and this is our business. So, uh
[32:18]
I I really feel strongly about this and
[32:20]
we appreciate the effort that the city
[32:23]
has put in, particularly uh the city
[32:25]
administration has put into helping us
[32:26]
get to this point. So, thank you. Um
[32:30]
Mayor Baker, I talk a lot, too. Uh is
[32:32]
there I would love to take any
[32:33]
questions.
[32:35]
>> Uh let's go with Council Member
[32:36]
Chamberlain.
[32:37]
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um sir, thank you for
[32:39]
bringing your expertise, your business
[32:42]
to your hometown, our hometown here in
[32:44]
Troy. And I do believe this is a
[32:46]
gamecher. Um just a couple questions. We
[32:50]
do we do brownfields, those happen all
[32:53]
the time and we are starting to do more
[32:56]
and more office to residential
[32:58]
conversions as you know. But what's the
[33:00]
game changer here is we're doing
[33:02]
workforce housing half of the units. um
[33:05]
just wanted to understand and this is
[33:08]
coming out of new legislation that came
[33:09]
out of Lancing a couple of years ago and
[33:11]
so this is our first our first in Troy.
[33:14]
Can you explain what makes this
[33:16]
different with the workforce housing
[33:18]
than a traditional brownfield because as
[33:20]
you shared you have brownfield elements
[33:22]
hazardous materials you need to remove
[33:24]
um is it that MISTA um credits that come
[33:27]
into that project or what's kind of
[33:29]
makes it different in that sense
[33:32]
>> um I am going to ask our consultant uh
[33:35]
Elizabeth Maserang from so she is our
[33:38]
expert when it comes to brownfields and
[33:40]
tax credits in the law uh I will make a
[33:42]
mistake if I try to explain it So, I'd
[33:44]
like Elizabeth, please, to explain that
[33:46]
part.
[33:46]
>> Sure.
[33:48]
>> Uh, good evening. Um, so I think the
[33:50]
simplest way to probably describe it is
[33:52]
it unlocks significantly more eligible
[33:54]
activities, especially being in the city
[33:57]
of Troy. So, you might be familiar with
[33:59]
some they're known as core communities
[34:00]
that were established through a tax
[34:02]
abatement program 10-15 years ago. And
[34:04]
they always had access to eligible
[34:06]
activities that included infrastructure
[34:08]
improvements and site prep. But not
[34:10]
every city falls within that category.
[34:13]
And so historically in Troy it's been
[34:15]
environmental demo asbestous abatement
[34:17]
etc. Through going through the MISTA
[34:20]
program and working through setting
[34:21]
aside units for workforce housing
[34:23]
infrastructure improvements rehab costs
[34:26]
towards income qualified households
[34:28]
those then become eligible activities
[34:30]
and so it gives a developer a little bit
[34:32]
more flexibility when it comes to
[34:34]
financing and using tiff specifically
[34:36]
for workforce housing.
[34:38]
>> Thank you for that description. I know
[34:40]
when there was uh the conversation
[34:43]
lancing, I mean it was a gamecher to
[34:45]
move this forward and now we see it
[34:46]
coming to our community and I know in
[34:50]
one of the pieces attached oh gosh it
[34:52]
said it's a 2021 number but it it
[34:55]
mentioned oh gosh the number of
[34:58]
percentage of those who are um housing
[35:01]
burdened the percentage of their um in
[35:04]
Troy uh of their um those who are paying
[35:07]
rent their um income going to rent. Oh,
[35:10]
I just had it. But it's a very small
[35:12]
print and it's a good reminder um of
[35:15]
those things. Second question I wanted
[35:17]
to ask and this may be for the de um
[35:20]
developer yourself.
[35:22]
Can you remind me how long? So half of
[35:25]
the units are dedicated to workforce
[35:27]
housing. Is that kind of in perpetuity
[35:30]
or is that how is that for a number of
[35:32]
years? Is that as um can you describe
[35:35]
the length of time?
[35:35]
>> I believe it's committed for a number of
[35:37]
how many years? committed for 15 years.
[35:40]
>> That's why I thought about a number.
[35:41]
>> Yeah. 15 years that 50% of the units
[35:43]
will be committed to is it 100% 100% of
[35:47]
uh area median income.
[35:48]
>> Okay.
[35:52]
» Thank you, Council Member Hamilton.
[35:53]
>> Uh thank you. Yeah, this is something a
[35:56]
lot of us on council have talked about
[35:58]
for a long time is redeveloping our
[35:59]
office space. Our office vacancies
[36:01]
aren't as bad as they were during CO,
[36:03]
but Troy, as you mentioned, we have
[36:05]
6,000 businesses. We have over 130,000
[36:09]
120 130,000 people that work in the city
[36:11]
of Troy. Most of them aren't from here.
[36:13]
So, this is a great project that's doing
[36:16]
exactly what we want to do. And so, we
[36:17]
thank you for coming here and hope to
[36:19]
see more. My question out of curiosity
[36:22]
was you mentioned in the Pontiac project
[36:25]
it took four years and there were a lot
[36:26]
of lessons learned and now this project
[36:29]
is scheduled for completion in about a
[36:31]
year and a half. So what are those
[36:32]
lessons learned that you're willing to
[36:34]
share if you if if you want to hit up?
[36:37]
>> Sure. Um I I think one of them is uh as
[36:41]
we went through I can give you three
[36:43]
reasons off the top of my head. Uh
[36:45]
firstly the subcontractors that we used
[36:47]
in the Pontiac project. we might be on
[36:49]
our second or third one in each
[36:51]
discipline because adaptive reuse is not
[36:53]
for everybody and not everybody is
[36:56]
nimble enough, creative enough to find a
[36:58]
way to solve a problem versus just
[37:00]
saying well we got to demo it and start
[37:01]
over. Um so that's number one is that we
[37:04]
went through vendors who may not have
[37:05]
been equipped for this type of work. Uh
[37:08]
number two, I think that uh when it
[37:11]
comes to staging the project, there are
[37:13]
a lot of contingencies, meaning that uh
[37:16]
you can't do this until you do that, but
[37:18]
there are several things that could be
[37:19]
done concurrently. And I think we
[37:21]
learned as we went again with adaptive
[37:22]
reuse, this is not the same thing as the
[37:25]
Gant chart that you would see for a
[37:27]
groundup construction. So, we learned
[37:29]
about things that we can do
[37:30]
concurrently. We realized, oh my gosh,
[37:32]
we can do both of these things
[37:33]
concurrently in this project that we
[37:34]
should have done in Pontiac, but didn't.
[37:36]
Uh, by the way, we have other projects
[37:38]
that we're working on through that four
[37:40]
years, but none of them are office to
[37:42]
apartment conversions. Just want to be
[37:44]
clear about that. We've done office to
[37:46]
medical office conversions and we've
[37:47]
done industrial conversions, but uh this
[37:49]
would be the second uh of this type. And
[37:52]
then the third reason is um we're just
[37:55]
smarter now. I think uh we we've we've
[37:57]
learned a lot of thing. We we went down
[37:59]
a lot a lot of roads that were dead ends
[38:01]
in terms of thoughts of how to design
[38:03]
the units, thoughts of how to solve HVAC
[38:06]
problems. So, one of the things I didn't
[38:07]
mention is you need individual HVAC in
[38:09]
each unit, heating and air conditioning.
[38:12]
Um, and the way you solve that problem,
[38:13]
there's three or four different ways. We
[38:15]
chose the wrong one at first in Pontiac
[38:16]
and then we ended up with the right one
[38:17]
and we've learned that lesson. So, now
[38:19]
we know uh h how to solve it here.
[38:22]
>> Thank you. Yeah, definitely need AC this
[38:25]
week for sure. Um, no, I appreciate it.
[38:28]
So, for um non-skinny buildings, which
[38:31]
Troy has a lot of those, what are your
[38:33]
options there? Uh, what do you do with
[38:35]
the middle parts? Because we have a lot
[38:37]
various types of buildings here in Troy.
[38:39]
So, I'm curious your thoughts on that.
[38:41]
>> It it is tough. I will tell you that,
[38:43]
uh, even here with 1441, there is a
[38:47]
central
[38:48]
corridor, you could call it, it's not
[38:50]
going to be a corridor, but a central
[38:51]
area of each floor that we're turning
[38:53]
into storage units. Um these will be
[38:56]
locked storage units that individual
[38:58]
tenants can rent. Uh storing a bicycle
[39:00]
for example or some other um you know
[39:03]
household goods, sporting goods,
[39:04]
whatever it may be. So that's uh one of
[39:06]
the things you can do. You can't put
[39:08]
storage everywhere. Uh and there's a a
[39:11]
limit to how much storage people need or
[39:13]
will will lease. So I don't necessarily
[39:15]
have a great answer for you uh other
[39:18]
than um you got to find something where
[39:20]
people don't need windows. Uh, so at the
[39:23]
moment what I got is a little bit of
[39:25]
storage. Okay.
[39:26]
>> Uh, if it was really fat enough, you
[39:29]
could probably put an indoor track and a
[39:30]
gym in the middle. Uh, if it was a big
[39:32]
enough building to sustain that kind of
[39:34]
an amenity. It's a lot of square
[39:35]
footage, though.
[39:36]
>> Thank you, Council Member.
[39:39]
>> Um, how you doing?
[39:40]
>> Good. Good to see you.
[39:41]
>> I um I can attest because in my previous
[39:45]
or another business I'm in, I did see
[39:47]
the Pontiac building before I started
[39:49]
working on it. seen it after. Amazing. I
[39:53]
think Detroit too, right? And um a
[39:57]
question I have though is how many
[40:00]
commercial units was it on the first
[40:02]
floor
[40:03]
>> in in this 1441 building? So, uh
[40:06]
commercial units, it looks like three.
[40:07]
Again, we're we're still scoping it out
[40:09]
and figuring out who wants to be there,
[40:11]
what will serve the tenants and the
[40:13]
community best. Uh if you look at the
[40:15]
floor plan of the ground floor, it's
[40:17]
majority tenant amenities. So, uh, a
[40:20]
gym, a lounge, and a co-working space.
[40:24]
And then on the front end of the
[40:25]
building, some retail spots.
[40:27]
>> Okay. Got it. And just a point of, uh,
[40:30]
information on your introduction page,
[40:34]
property description, it's actually west
[40:36]
of Stevenson. I think you guys have it
[40:37]
east of Stevenson.
[40:38]
>> It's definitely west of Stevenson. Yeah.
[40:40]
Excuse me for that.
[40:42]
>> But, no, I'm I'm a big fan of your work.
[40:44]
It's You've done amazing stuff. So,
[40:46]
>> thank you. And if you saw Pontiac before
[40:48]
>> Oh, I did. Yeah, it was it was a quite a
[40:51]
war zone.
[40:51]
>> It's tough to pass you actually.
[40:54]
>> Yeah,
[40:55]
>> Brooks.
[40:55]
>> Uh, thank you, Mayor. Uh, first of all,
[40:57]
thank you so much for this presentation
[40:58]
and thank you for all the work that
[41:00]
you're doing. Um, I love to see
[41:02]
repurposing of buildings as well. I
[41:04]
think it is great for the environment. I
[41:06]
think it's great for so many reasons.
[41:08]
And I think, you know, we have a housing
[41:11]
issue crisis really um and affordability
[41:14]
issue with housing. And you know, any
[41:17]
way that we can improve that, I think
[41:18]
it's a wonderful thing. Um, one thing I
[41:21]
was hoping for was to see kind of the
[41:23]
schematics or the rendering of the
[41:25]
outdoor space cuz you mentioned, you
[41:27]
know, pickle ball courts and things like
[41:28]
that, but I know right now it's pavement
[41:31]
around it. Um, and so I was wondering
[41:34]
how that would look and also with the
[41:36]
pickle ball is very popular. Um, would
[41:38]
that be exclusive to those who live in
[41:41]
the building or is it open to the
[41:43]
community? Um, so I'll go backward. I'll
[41:46]
answer them backward if that's okay. Uh,
[41:48]
the pickle ball and all outdoor
[41:50]
amenities would be restricted to
[41:51]
residents and their guests. Uh, this
[41:53]
won't be a public space. Uh, but
[41:56]
residents and their guests. It'll be a
[41:58]
single pickle ball court and it will be
[41:59]
in the space underneath the drive-thru
[42:02]
where the drive-thru is right now. So,
[42:04]
it's within the envelope of the physical
[42:07]
building. Outside of that building, we
[42:09]
have a lot of asphalt, concrete, uh, you
[42:12]
know, it's it's a lot of hardscape. It's
[42:14]
not a lot of green. And we went through
[42:16]
the sustainable review
[42:19]
>> sustainability review board uh to talk
[42:22]
about adding uh green spaces and uh we
[42:26]
went through a lengthy process and were
[42:28]
approved. So there is a plan for that.
[42:30]
I'm sorry I didn't include it today, but
[42:31]
that was a passed through the
[42:34]
sustainable sustainability review board
[42:37]
uh for their uh approval.
[42:40]
>> And so the answer to your the short
[42:42]
answer is there's a lot more green in
[42:43]
the final version than what there is
[42:45]
today.
[42:45]
>> Okay, good. That's good to know.
[42:47]
>> Yeah.
[42:48]
>> My only question after tonight, assuming
[42:51]
approval here, sounds like you're going
[42:53]
to get that based on what I've heard.
[42:55]
What what are your next steps? What kind
[42:56]
of approvals are you waiting for from
[42:57]
the state or what's next for to actually
[43:00]
get this project going?
[43:02]
>> Um, so if approved this evening, uh, our
[43:05]
next step would be to submit a 3D1 work
[43:07]
plan to MISTA for their statutory review
[43:10]
and approval for the portion that they
[43:11]
approve which is the school taxes which
[43:13]
they make whole on approval. So our next
[43:15]
step would be to take that document to
[43:17]
them and then once that is approved and
[43:19]
the reimbursement agreements executed,
[43:22]
we're set.
[43:23]
>> So you're you're ready to go with We we
[43:26]
are ready. Uh we have actually even
[43:28]
applied for a building permit here in
[43:30]
town uh to again do things concurrently.
[43:33]
Uh as I mentioned before, we've learned
[43:34]
about concurrence and how to save time.
[43:36]
So uh we have applied for a building
[43:38]
permit. We're in that process now. And
[43:40]
as well as uh finalizing things with the
[43:43]
city and the state for the tax credit.
[43:45]
>> And this is a question that I know the
[43:47]
answer to, but I it wasn't presented.
[43:49]
You have recommendation from the
[43:51]
Brownfield board, correct? 5 to zero.
[43:53]
It's in the it's in the packet. We we
[43:55]
did we we did present something very
[43:57]
similar to today to the Brownfield
[43:58]
Authority here in Troy. They asked a lot
[44:00]
of good questions and we did receive a
[44:02]
50 approval.
[44:03]
>> And you already have prel pre
[44:04]
preliminary site plan approval from the
[44:06]
planning commission as well.
[44:07]
>> Yes, we do. Yes, we do. Thank you.
[44:09]
>> I was excuse me. I was remiss and I was
[44:12]
going to mention that the Brownfield
[44:14]
board did approve it and of course it's
[44:17]
contingent upon city council approval,
[44:20]
but we did go through that uh process
[44:23]
and Brent did take a look at it also.
[44:26]
>> Thank you. Appreciate it. Any other
[44:28]
questions? All right, let's open the
[44:29]
public hearing. I don't see anyone have
[44:31]
signed up to speak on E1 this public
[44:33]
hearing, but that doesn't prohibit
[44:34]
anybody from speaking if they'd like to.
[44:38]
All right, seeing none, we'll close the
[44:40]
public hearing. Ask if someone would
[44:41]
like to move the resolution. Council
[44:42]
member Chamberlain.
[44:43]
>> Thank you, Mayor. I'll move E1, public
[44:46]
hearing, adoption of Brownfield red
[44:49]
development plan number 13 for Bashard
[44:52]
Lofts redevelopment parcel number
[44:55]
88-20-226-351-016
[45:03]
as printed in the agenda packet. support
[45:05]
>> moved by council member Chamberlain
[45:07]
supported by council member Gun that we
[45:08]
approve E1 public hearing adoption of
[45:10]
the brownfield redevelopment plan number
[45:11]
13 for backward I don't know if it's
[45:13]
bashard or backard I've been saying both
[45:15]
loft's redevelopment parcel number
[45:17]
88-20-26-351-016
[45:21]
as printed in the agenda packet
[45:23]
discussion
[45:25]
member Chamberlain
[45:26]
>> thank you mayor um as I said before this
[45:28]
is clearly a gamecher we do brownfields
[45:31]
we do work force um we do conversions
[45:34]
from office to residential, but this is
[45:37]
the first one in Troy where we're adding
[45:38]
workforce housing. Um, I'm just very
[45:41]
delighted and I do want to I did find
[45:43]
that figure. I just wanted to read it.
[45:44]
It's in your proposal stating that 28%
[45:48]
of renters are considered overburdened,
[45:51]
which is defined as spending more than
[45:53]
30% of household income on housing. And
[45:56]
that was according to the Misha
[45:57]
statewide housing report um in it here
[46:00]
in Troy. So, thank you for contributing
[46:02]
towards addressing the housing crisis
[46:04]
that we have in our community and that
[46:06]
we have around the state.
[46:08]
>> Thank you. Additional comments.
[46:12]
A lot were said during the questions,
[46:13]
but I'll just add a couple things. I
[46:14]
first of all, I know it was a long time
[46:15]
getting here once we got to this point.
[46:17]
I'm happy to see that we're we're at
[46:18]
this point. Thankful to our consultant,
[46:21]
to your consultants, and everybody on
[46:22]
city staff for um getting us here today.
[46:26]
Um,
[46:28]
we talked a lot about how most office
[46:31]
buildings don't easily convert to
[46:33]
residential and people are always saying
[46:35]
convert res convert all these empty
[46:37]
office buildings to residential and you
[46:39]
spoke very clearly and eloquently about
[46:41]
the reasons why it can be so difficult.
[46:43]
Probably clearer than I've heard most
[46:44]
people give in a lot of presentations
[46:46]
I've seen. So, I appreciate that. Um, I
[46:48]
do um love that you hopefully with
[46:52]
tonight's approval and moving forward
[46:53]
you're looking for other options in the
[46:54]
city of Troy. still think that's uh
[46:56]
something that we can continue to be
[46:58]
proud of in this city. We are kind of a
[47:00]
leaders regionally and some of the other
[47:01]
work that's been done and some of other
[47:03]
projects. So this is again a new and
[47:05]
exciting project and please keep it up.
[47:07]
Um I think the other aspect that you
[47:11]
touched on a little bit is the Maple
[47:12]
Corridor and as long as I've been on
[47:15]
council or up here, we've talked about
[47:17]
trying to make Maple something more than
[47:20]
it is. Um part of it's a shared couple
[47:22]
cities border. you know, it's a little
[47:23]
different than something all in choice
[47:26]
borders, but uh I love that you're
[47:28]
bringing some nice residential to an
[47:30]
area that people don't automatically
[47:32]
think of as a place for residential. So,
[47:34]
thank you for doing that. Uh I hope that
[47:36]
it will spur further development in that
[47:40]
area um and places for people who live
[47:42]
there to go and to to eat and do things
[47:45]
of that nature and more residents, of
[47:47]
course. um kind of just a commentary. I
[47:52]
it's we hear about it and we read about
[47:54]
it and I'm certainly not immune to
[47:55]
understanding it, but what gets now
[47:58]
labeled as attainable or affordable,
[48:01]
it's still a lot of money. Even the
[48:03]
reduced rental amounts are way more than
[48:05]
people have traditionally paid for um
[48:09]
even really nice housing. And and it's just an interesting um place we're
[48:13]
in. So, thank you for working with the
[48:15]
state to to come up with something that
[48:18]
makes sense. Um, and it is a reminder
[48:20]
that it's what 14, you know, half the
[48:25]
units are going to be a little bit
[48:27]
cheaper than what they would otherwise
[48:28]
be. Like that's not going to solve any
[48:30]
crisis here in in Metro Detroit, but it
[48:33]
is a good first step for the city of
[48:34]
Troy. So, thank you for doing that. Um,
[48:39]
I think that's it. So, I lost the vote,
[48:40]
Miss Dixon.
[48:41]
>> Council member Brooks. Yes.
[48:43]
>> Council member Chamberlain.
[48:44]
>> Yes.
[48:45]
>> Council member Gun.
[48:46]
>> Yes.
[48:47]
>> Council member Hamilton.
[48:48]
>> Yes.
[48:48]
>> Mayor Baker.
[48:49]
>> Yes.
[48:50]
>> Oh, it's only five of us. Motion
[48:52]
carries.
[48:53]
>> Thank you.
[48:57]
» That concludes public hearings tonight.
[48:59]
Next up for public comment for items on
[49:00]
the agenda from Troy residents and
[49:02]
businesses. We do have two people signed
[49:03]
up. As a reminder, you have three
[49:05]
minutes. You know the rules that our uh
[49:08]
city council rules of procedure. Clock
[49:09]
will countdown. Light turns yellow. You
[49:11]
have one minute. the light turns red.
[49:13]
That is the uh time. So, first up is
[49:16]
David Niffin.
[49:23]
Good evening, Dave Niffin, 5501 Boros,
[49:25]
Troy, Michigan. Um, I had the pleasure
[49:27]
this spring of visiting firefighters
[49:30]
park often for my son's T-ball. And in
[49:33]
doing so, I was able to see the pickle
[49:35]
ball court, the big pickle ball court,
[49:36]
the the concrete and everything. also
[49:39]
seen the the ribbon cutting from the uh
[49:41]
the new cricket field and it brought me
[49:43]
back to the early 90s when I was at
[49:45]
Athens as an underassman. The
[49:47]
upperassman had circulated a petition to
[49:50]
get this city to build an outdoor roller
[49:52]
hockey rink much like we have at Bordon
[49:55]
Park in Rochester Hills in Ferndale and
[49:58]
Oak Park and Berkeley. And I remember
[50:00]
signing a petition two years in a row
[50:02]
and I believe somebody brought it here
[50:04]
older than I. And obviously we still
[50:06]
don't have one 35 years later. Um I
[50:10]
still go up to Bordon Park, play hockey.
[50:11]
I take my kids up there. It's a great
[50:13]
park. It's a great uh facility. And of
[50:15]
course, nobody was talking about pickle
[50:17]
ball back then or cricket or any of
[50:18]
these other things. And when I drive
[50:20]
through some of the neighborhoods and I
[50:21]
see kids dragging a hockey net out of
[50:24]
the street so cars can pass, they say
[50:26]
car and it reminds me that uh we're
[50:29]
still waiting. So just keep that in
[50:31]
mind.
[50:32]
>> Thank you.
[50:34]
Next up is Donnie Niff.
[50:47]
Hi, I'm Donnie Niffin from 5501 Boros
[50:52]
Drive, Troy, Michigan. We just took a
[50:54]
trip to Troy, Ohio, and we drove through
[50:58]
a ton of towns coming back. And all of
[51:01]
them had
[51:03]
decorations up for America 250, even
[51:06]
lights. I know there is a city 250
[51:10]
event, but I think the city could do
[51:12]
better with lights and more decorations
[51:16]
to show how proud we are for our
[51:19]
nation's great birthday.
[51:23]
Thank you, Johnny.
[51:24]
>> That'll be all.
[51:25]
>> That concludes those that have signed up
[51:26]
for public comment for items on the
[51:28]
agenda from Troy residents and
[51:29]
businesses. Now's an opportunity for
[51:31]
council and administration to respond.
[51:34]
Anyone like?
[51:38]
» I will. I appreciate you both coming in
[51:39]
as always. Uh I think the
[51:43]
parks and recck board should be the next
[51:44]
place you go to talk about outdoor
[51:47]
hockey, roller hockey, because they
[51:49]
would be a recommending body. Of course,
[51:51]
there are always financial constraints
[51:53]
um that will drive some of those
[51:55]
decisions, but um I know there are a lot
[51:58]
of different recreational uses that
[52:00]
people are looking for and but the parks
[52:02]
and rec board would probably be a great
[52:04]
place to start to bring it to revive it.
[52:07]
I haven't seen the petition from 35
[52:08]
years ago. So, um and to you, Donnie, uh
[52:12]
we do have some banners up on our civic
[52:14]
center property for America 250. I'm
[52:17]
with you. Yeah, I mean, I wish we had
[52:18]
decorations everywhere because I think
[52:20]
it's a really cool and monumental thing
[52:22]
that we're experiencing. Um, and
[52:27]
I'm I'm with you. But here we are. Um,
[52:30]
we'll celebrate Wednesday night here in
[52:31]
the city and I hope that um you
[52:35]
celebrate wherever you are and we'll
[52:38]
keep decorating and keep talking about
[52:39]
it. Anyone have decorations at home?
[52:41]
Rebecca, go ahead.
[52:43]
>> I wish I did. You know, get those
[52:44]
American flags up. Um, I don't know what
[52:47]
it would take at this point to be able
[52:49]
to print all those lovely posters um or
[52:52]
banners that we have in the civic center
[52:54]
and put them up and down Big Beaver. I
[52:56]
would love that. Um, I I would look to
[52:59]
city management to um to tell us could
[53:02]
we do that and is there budget for that?
[53:04]
>> City manager, you want to speak to that?
[53:07]
>> I mean or do you would I I
[53:11]
>> No, we have some of those banners up. Um
[53:14]
I I know there was an issue with the
[53:16]
company trying to get um things done in
[53:19]
time and more and cost and different
[53:21]
things like that, but we do have banners
[53:23]
out not only Civic Center on campus, but
[53:25]
um we tried to stretch out beyond that a
[53:27]
little bit too.
[53:29]
>> They were they were supposed to be up
[53:31]
and down Big Beaver, but there was an
[53:32]
issue.
[53:33]
>> So I empathize having my workplace, we
[53:35]
were having issues trying to print and
[53:37]
it was our centennial and believe me, so
[53:39]
I I empathize that there can be issues.
[53:41]
So there there are some issues and it
[53:43]
sounds like there was a vision to have
[53:45]
it all up and down. Um so but thank you.
[53:47]
I agree. I would love to celebrate and
[53:50]
as much as I wish we had a parade even
[53:53]
so in the future
[53:56]
>> I'll just suggest on your way home look
[53:58]
to your left on Steve and you'll see
[54:00]
what I did with the with lights all
[54:02]
over.
[54:05]
>> One final comment on that. I used to
[54:07]
have a neighbor who every Memorial Day
[54:09]
put out flags in the everyone's resident
[54:12]
in front of every house in front of our
[54:14]
neighborhood. And I always thought that
[54:15]
was a very cool thing that he did
[54:16]
individually. And I I know that some
[54:18]
HOAs are doing things like that in their
[54:20]
individual neighborhoods. Um I had a
[54:22]
vision of 250 flags somewhere out here.
[54:24]
But [clears throat] you know, things
[54:26]
happen. But uh we'll we'll celebrate and
[54:28]
enjoy the importance of this event
[54:30]
regardless. But u I do hear you and I
[54:32]
appreciate you you bringing that to us
[54:34]
tonight.
[54:35]
>> All right.
[54:36]
Uh,
[54:39]
no postponed items this evening. So, we
[54:40]
move on to regular business. I1 is board
[54:42]
and committee appointments. We do have
[54:44]
one mayoral appointment this evening.
[54:46]
I'll move resolve that the mayor of the
[54:48]
city of Troy hereby appoints the
[54:49]
following nominated persons to serve on
[54:51]
boards and committees as indicated.
[54:53]
Anthony Rosen Bloom to the Local
[54:54]
Development Finance Authority, LDFA, as
[54:57]
the resident member for the term
[54:58]
expiring June 30th, 2030.
[55:01]
>> Support. Moved by the chair, supported
[55:04]
by council member Chamberlain that we
[55:05]
approve the reappoint of Anthony
[55:06]
Rosenlum as a resident member to the
[55:08]
local development finance authority for
[55:10]
the term expiring June 30th, 2030. Any
[55:12]
discussion?
[55:14]
>> The vote, Miss Dixon.
[55:15]
>> Council member Chamberlain,
[55:16]
>> yes.
[55:16]
>> Council member Gun,
[55:17]
>> yes.
[55:18]
>> Council member Hamilton,
[55:19]
>> yes.
[55:19]
>> Mayor Baker,
[55:20]
>> yes.
[55:20]
>> Council member Brooks,
[55:21]
>> yes.
[55:22]
>> Motion carries. That concludes mayoral
[55:24]
appointments this evening. Uh we have no
[55:25]
city council appointments. I2 is board
[55:27]
committee nominations. I have no mayoral
[55:30]
nominations and there will be no city
[55:32]
council nominations this evening. So we
[55:35]
move on. There is a request for close
[55:37]
session. I don't feel the need to
[55:39]
adjourn into close session based on what
[55:41]
was presented. Does anyone feel
[55:43]
differently like to move it?
[55:44]
>> All right.
[55:47]
I4 is a bid waiver GPS system for golf
[55:50]
carts and golf courses and that'll be
[55:52]
introduced by Allison Leech, our
[55:53]
assistant recreation director.
[55:58]
Good evening, mayor and council. The
[56:00]
item before you is a bid waiver for
[56:02]
leasing GPS systems for the golf carts
[56:04]
at both Silven Glenn and Sanctuary Lake
[56:06]
golf courses. City management recommends
[56:08]
waving the bid process and approving a
[56:10]
contract with Reach Golfer Reach
[56:12]
Golfers, excuse me, of Scottsdale,
[56:15]
Arizona in the amount of $25 per month
[56:17]
per cart for 48 months or $51,000
[56:21]
annually with a onetime shipping fee for
[56:23]
the equipment necessary of $1,250
[56:27]
per course using Alliance Funding Group
[56:29]
for the financing. I'm happy to answer
[56:31]
any questions you may have at this time.
[56:33]
And I also have Trent Alteri who is the
[56:35]
general manager at Silven Glenn with me
[56:36]
as well.
[56:37]
>> I do know there were questions asked in
[56:39]
advance. Typically those are on the
[56:40]
table when we get here. I just realized
[56:42]
they're not but we did get email copy.
[56:44]
Did everyone see those?
[56:45]
>> Okay. Did you get your
[56:47]
>> I read them briefly and um so I hope I'm
[56:50]
not going to repeat myself but yes I
[56:53]
>> All right. Did you want to council?
[56:55]
>> Yes. So wanted to follow. So they
[56:56]
weren't answered in terms of um question
[56:59]
by question. they were just kind of
[57:00]
summarized. So the couple of the things
[57:02]
that I was just trying to get
[57:04]
confirmation on is one the system and
[57:07]
the reason why I care a lot is you know
[57:08]
I come from a golfing family. My grandma
[57:10]
she got her hole in one and my grandpa
[57:13]
he golfed to the to the um almost the
[57:15]
day he died I think because he was
[57:16]
trying to get the hole in one trying to
[57:19]
uh trying to to meet what grandma did.
[57:21]
So um and I'm not a great golfer but um
[57:23]
I worked at golf courses. I worked up um
[57:26]
at the Highlands on the Ross. That was
[57:28]
my summer job growing up. Um, so it was
[57:30]
around golf a lot. Um, so I understand
[57:33]
we want to be um, we want to be modern.
[57:37]
We want to be where the field is going.
[57:40]
I think my question was around pace of
[57:42]
play and all my question was kind of
[57:43]
what's in it for the golfer. I got it
[57:46]
from the memo. What's in it for for
[57:48]
trune? Um, but what's in it um, health,
[57:51]
safety, welfare? What's in it for their
[57:53]
experience as a player? And it sounds
[57:55]
like there's a lot of great things. Um,
[57:57]
even if golfers might use their own
[57:59]
apps, there's great things in this. I
[58:02]
think that behind that, the question was
[58:04]
pace of play. Is it going to create a a
[58:06]
stressful system system for players? And
[58:09]
I asked that because having worked on
[58:12]
like big courses like the Ross at the
[58:14]
Highlands where like you want to, you
[58:16]
know, it's a private golf course, you
[58:17]
want to move a lot of volume, whereas
[58:19]
municipal courses, it's about having a
[58:21]
good time and not being stressed. I have
[58:24]
to keep moving. and if I'm out there
[58:27]
takes me forever, you know, I don't want
[58:29]
to feel stressed that someone's behind
[58:31]
me pushing me along. Um, can you speak
[58:34]
to that? Like how it, you know, it won't
[58:36]
create undo burden on players.
[58:37]
>> Yeah, definitely. So, Trent, you can add
[58:39]
anything if you'd like, but I'll try my
[58:40]
best. So, pace of play is the number one
[58:43]
complaint that we receive at both
[58:46]
Sanctuary and Silven Glenn. Um, so that
[58:49]
would be like the big component that
[58:51]
this takes care of. we would be able to
[58:54]
put groups of golfers out there and they
[58:56]
would be able to move more efficiently
[58:58]
um using the GPS system because we can
[59:00]
kind of prompt them if needed. Um if we
[59:02]
have more groups ready to start, if
[59:04]
they're taking too long at one hole and
[59:06]
people are backed up. Um so that's
[59:08]
really the big thing. And then that's
[59:10]
takes care of a safety issue as well. If
[59:12]
there's hazards on the course, if we're
[59:14]
too backed up and everyone's hanging out
[59:15]
in one area. Um but that that kind of
[59:18]
answers your pace of play question, I
[59:20]
Well, pace of play, I think, is um
[59:22]
really of the sense when you're a really
[59:24]
good player. When you're someone like me
[59:26]
playing, you don't want to get stressed
[59:28]
out that there's all these people behind
[59:29]
you. Um and are we going to discourage,
[59:32]
you know, those folks from playing? Like
[59:34]
how do what will you do in that case
[59:35]
when you got
[59:36]
>> Yeah, definitely. I'm going to defer to
[59:38]
Trent on that question.
[59:39]
>> Say what Trent, what do you do now? Like
[59:40]
maybe that's a I mean, how would how
[59:42]
will this make it better or
[59:43]
>> So for for Silven um like we're able to
[59:46]
see the bottlenecks. So there's
[59:48]
basically three locations, seven and
[59:50]
eight backto-back par threes. You go
[59:52]
into a long par4 and then 10. So when
[59:54]
things get backed up, it's in that area.
[59:56]
So we're able to see that from the pro
[59:58]
shop. Um and then to add to your um to
[1:00:00]
your remarks about pace play, it is our
[1:00:02]
number one complaint. Um and we do have
[1:00:04]
a wide range of players. You have guys
[1:00:06]
that have been playing their entire
[1:00:07]
lives. You have firsttime golfers. And
[1:00:09]
then so for the first time golfers, they
[1:00:12]
may not be aware of pace of play. like
[1:00:14]
they may have no idea that it should
[1:00:15]
take them four, four and a half hours.
[1:00:18]
Um they may be driving on the course and
[1:00:20]
get lost. With this GPS, it'll be able
[1:00:22]
to navigate them hole by hole, tell them
[1:00:25]
where to go. Um and then also you'll be
[1:00:28]
able to see in front of you. You can see
[1:00:29]
that cart how far it is. Like you're on
[1:00:31]
that first te, the person's 100 yards
[1:00:34]
out, they're actually 350 yards out. So
[1:00:37]
instead of waiting and then people
[1:00:39]
behind you get backed up, they're able
[1:00:40]
to hit that ball confidently and not
[1:00:42]
worry about potentially hitting into
[1:00:44]
somebody. So that that's kind of that's
[1:00:46]
kind of the main the main thing is being
[1:00:47]
able to see um that golfer in front of
[1:00:50]
you. You're able to see hazards. So if
[1:00:53]
somebody comes to Silver Glenn for the
[1:00:54]
first time, there's a creek that runs
[1:00:55]
through the course. You can be driving,
[1:00:57]
may not know it's there, and you run
[1:00:59]
right into it. With that that uh with
[1:01:01]
the uh the GPS, you're able to visually
[1:01:03]
see that. Um and on top of that there's
[1:01:06]
also um the geo fencing part of it. So
[1:01:09]
that's how we're able to protect the
[1:01:11]
turf for Silven Glenn. There's no cart
[1:01:13]
pass. So we'll be able to potentially
[1:01:16]
let carts out maybe in early March
[1:01:19]
instead of the end of March or April
[1:01:21]
just because we're able to protect
[1:01:22]
certain areas of the course that flood.
[1:01:24]
Um so that that's kind of the main
[1:01:27]
aspects of the of the technology.
[1:01:29]
>> That's really helpful. I think when one
[1:01:31]
of the questions I'd asked is, you know,
[1:01:32]
what about other courses that you run in
[1:01:34]
Michigan and you gave some examples and
[1:01:37]
how golfers um their feedback on the
[1:01:40]
technology, the GPS, I think they're
[1:01:42]
very happy, right?
[1:01:43]
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I know the one
[1:01:44]
that's in uh it's PCAT. They they do use
[1:01:47]
a GPS, not the same exact one. Um
[1:01:50]
there's a course in uh Noblesville,
[1:01:52]
Indiana, that's part of Tron Purgatory.
[1:01:54]
Um used to be a top 100 golf course.
[1:01:56]
They've been using it um for the past 3
[1:01:58]
months. I've reached out to that general
[1:01:59]
manager and he has not a single
[1:02:01]
complaint at all. So, it's it's worked.
[1:02:03]
perfect. Um, no issues at
[1:02:05]
all. Um, so yeah,
[1:02:07]
>> and what I do like for health, safety,
[1:02:09]
welfare, you know, a golfer, especially
[1:02:11]
if you're new or you're slow like me,
[1:02:13]
you could see you can see kind of where
[1:02:15]
folks are in front of you. So, it kind
[1:02:16]
of gives you, as you said, um, just
[1:02:18]
being careful when you tee off. And so,
[1:02:20]
I I do see there can be
[1:02:22]
>> correct. Yeah. And and we are definitely
[1:02:23]
not we're not trying to police the
[1:02:26]
course. We're not trying to like be rude
[1:02:28]
about it like like simply people may not
[1:02:30]
know. Um so we're able to see that log
[1:02:32]
jam drive out there and obviously we'll
[1:02:35]
have our customer service in place and
[1:02:37]
train our staff on how to handle those
[1:02:39]
sorts of situations. They can be
[1:02:40]
delicate sometimes. Um but definitely
[1:02:43]
we're able to address the issue before
[1:02:46]
it becomes a bigger issue with uh with
[1:02:49]
the technology that we'll have like in
[1:02:50]
the in the pro shop.
[1:02:52]
>> Okay. Excellent. Thank you.
[1:02:53]
>> Yeah.
[1:02:54]
Council um So this GPS system approve
[1:02:59]
it. When would you guys have it
[1:03:00]
operational?
[1:03:02]
>> Uh yeah, we've been in talks. So um if
[1:03:04]
it is approved today, um I can I believe
[1:03:07]
we'll start the process by the end of
[1:03:09]
this month, end of July.
[1:03:10]
>> July.
[1:03:11]
>> So they'll they'll come out, they'll
[1:03:12]
geoence the course. They'll map
[1:03:14]
everything out. Um mark any hazards,
[1:03:16]
bunkers, map the entire thing. Um the
[1:03:19]
install should take hopefully two to
[1:03:22]
three days. um because they're they're
[1:03:23]
going to have to navigate our normal
[1:03:25]
busy play and and maybe do like a
[1:03:27]
morning afternoon sort of thing. Um but
[1:03:30]
yeah, we're discussion was the end of
[1:03:32]
July.
[1:03:32]
>> Then do you need people to test it?
[1:03:35]
>> Mark, [laughter] no.
[1:03:37]
>> You can be my volunteer.
[1:03:39]
>> The answer is no. He cannot be your
[1:03:40]
volunt.
[1:03:40]
>> Got it. Some of us have learned lessons
[1:03:43]
about that. So we don't do that.
[1:03:45]
[laughter]
[1:03:45]
>> Uh any other questions? Someone want to
[1:03:49]
move the resolution?
[1:03:51]
Council Chamberlain,
[1:03:52]
>> I'll move it. Um, I move I4 bid waiver
[1:03:56]
GPS system for golf carts at golf
[1:03:58]
courses as printed in the agenda packet.
[1:04:02]
>> Moved by council member Chamberlain,
[1:04:03]
supported by council member Hamilton
[1:04:04]
that we approve I4 bid waiver GPS system
[1:04:06]
for golf carts at golf courses as
[1:04:08]
printed in the agenda packet. Any
[1:04:10]
discussion?
[1:04:11]
>> Council member Hamilton.
[1:04:12]
>> I mean, driving to council today, the
[1:04:15]
Silvin was bumping as always, as has
[1:04:17]
been for 100 years. Ever since COVID,
[1:04:20]
golf rounds have gone way up and it's
[1:04:24]
great to improve the experience because
[1:04:26]
they're a great asset to our city.
[1:04:28]
>> For sure.
[1:04:30]
>> I was just going to say a lightarted
[1:04:32]
note. Um I'm inspired. Maybe I just I
[1:04:34]
need to get out and start start golfing
[1:04:35]
again. [laughter]
[1:04:37]
>> There we go.
[1:04:38]
>> Well, now you'll have GPS to help.
[1:04:41]
>> Hold on a second. Cash. Well, if you
[1:04:43]
could GPS golf balls because so often
[1:04:45]
I'm driving down square lake and the
[1:04:47]
balls are shooting at me at my car. But
[1:04:49]
we'll work on that. Right.
[1:04:51]
>> Yeah. Got over to help.
[1:04:52]
>> And just to brag about a Troy resident,
[1:04:54]
um Troy firefighter Brad Williams, an
[1:04:56]
old friend of mine, he got a hole in one
[1:04:58]
on uh hole seven at Silven Glenn. So, a
[1:05:01]
couple years ago. So, hey, very
[1:05:03]
exciting.
[1:05:04]
>> Anything?
[1:05:05]
>> No. [laughter]
[1:05:07]
>> No one said it all. Excited.
[1:05:08]
>> It's exciting. Oh, my computer. Uh the
[1:05:11]
vote was six. Council member Gun.
[1:05:13]
>> Yes.
[1:05:13]
>> Council member Hamilton,
[1:05:14]
>> yes.
[1:05:15]
>> Mayor Baker,
[1:05:16]
>> uh, yeah.
[1:05:16]
>> Council member Brooks,
[1:05:17]
>> yes.
[1:05:18]
>> Council member Chamberlain,
[1:05:19]
>> yes.
[1:05:21]
>> Still feels motion carries. [laughter]
[1:05:24]
>> All right. Thank you. Good to see you,
[1:05:26]
Trent.
[1:05:26]
>> Thank you.
[1:05:27]
>> Uh, next up, I5 fiscal year 2026 budget
[1:05:30]
amendments. That'll be introduced by Rob
[1:05:31]
Malik, our chief financial officer.
[1:05:34]
>> Good evening, council mayor. Um, nice to
[1:05:36]
be with you guys again. This is the 2026
[1:05:40]
final week and we have an amendment as
[1:05:42]
we always do and so we're asking you to
[1:05:44]
approve the budget amendment for the end
[1:05:47]
of the fiscal year 2026. What's in there
[1:05:50]
this year are items mainly that you know
[1:05:53]
about in the general fund. We had the uh
[1:05:56]
settlement of the lawsuit with the
[1:05:58]
homebuilders case that settled. So
[1:06:00]
that's 625,000 of the budget amendment.
[1:06:03]
The other $250,000 is in the recreation
[1:06:06]
area and it's primarily for TFAC which
[1:06:09]
you're well aware of. Um some of the
[1:06:11]
costs we've had over there including
[1:06:13]
water costs, some electrical work done
[1:06:16]
in the banquet center and a few other
[1:06:19]
smaller items in recreation. So that's
[1:06:21]
um $875,000
[1:06:24]
for the general fund. Then we also have
[1:06:27]
for CDBG we have some additional U bowl
[1:06:30]
and park costs that will be 100%
[1:06:32]
reimbured. And I should back up to the
[1:06:34]
general fund we found offsetting
[1:06:36]
revenue. So there's nothing coming out
[1:06:38]
of our fund balance and that those
[1:06:40]
revenues would be um for our LCSA which
[1:06:44]
is our local community stabilization
[1:06:46]
authority payment. Each year we have
[1:06:48]
more we got more money in from the state
[1:06:50]
that we than what we budgeted and also
[1:06:52]
we have um another good year with the
[1:06:55]
interest rate favorable interest rates.
[1:06:57]
So that's also going to offset the
[1:06:59]
additional expenditures. CDBG is for
[1:07:02]
Bolan Park and again that's going to be
[1:07:04]
100% reimbured by the feds. And lastly,
[1:07:07]
we have $10,000.
[1:07:09]
And we had more um snow removal this
[1:07:12]
year than we did in the uh than we
[1:07:14]
budgeted, and we'll be getting that
[1:07:16]
money from Amtrak. So, um again, all
[1:07:19]
these will be covered by revenue, but we
[1:07:21]
need these um passed by council. So, we
[1:07:24]
um are in compliance of the budget,
[1:07:27]
state budget law. Any questions?
[1:07:29]
>> Thank you. Any questions? Council member
[1:07:30]
Hamilton,
[1:07:31]
>> just a comment. A happy fiscal new year
[1:07:33]
on
[1:07:33]
>> Thank you. Yeah. Can't wait to celebrate
[1:07:35]
with an audit.
[1:07:38]
>> Any other questions?
[1:07:41]
>> Uh, I'll move I5 fiscal year 2026 budget
[1:07:44]
amendments as printed in the agenda
[1:07:45]
packet.
[1:07:46]
>> Support.
[1:07:46]
>> Moved by chair, supported by council
[1:07:47]
member Gun that we approve I5 fiscal
[1:07:49]
year 2026 budget amendments as printed
[1:07:51]
in the agenda packet. Any discussion?
[1:07:55]
Just thankful to see the offsets and
[1:07:56]
that although there's increases here,
[1:07:58]
they're being covered by existing funds
[1:08:00]
essentially. So, thank you. Vote, Miss
[1:08:02]
Dixon.
[1:08:03]
>> Council member Hamilton. Yes.
[1:08:04]
>> Mayor Baker.
[1:08:05]
>> Yes.
[1:08:05]
>> Council member Brooks.
[1:08:06]
>> Yes.
[1:08:07]
>> Council member Chamberlain.
[1:08:08]
>> Yes.
[1:08:08]
>> Council member Gun.
[1:08:09]
>> Yes. Motion carries.
[1:08:10]
>> Thank you, Mayor and Council.
[1:08:11]
>> Thanks, Rob. That concludes regular
[1:08:13]
business. Next up is the consent agenda,
[1:08:15]
including the late submitt of J2B.
[1:08:18]
Anyone like to move an item remove an
[1:08:19]
item from the consent agenda for further
[1:08:21]
discussion? Council member Hamilton.
[1:08:23]
>> I'd like to move all items on on the
[1:08:25]
consent agenda as printed in the agenda
[1:08:27]
packet, including the J2B uh late middle
[1:08:30]
>> support. Moved by Council Member
[1:08:32]
Hamilton, supported by Council Member
[1:08:33]
Brooks, that we approve all items on the
[1:08:35]
consent agenda, including the late
[1:08:37]
submitt of J2B.
[1:08:39]
Um, did I say as the rest printed in the
[1:08:42]
agenda packet? I don't know if I did.
[1:08:44]
I'm repeating myself. Uh, any
[1:08:46]
discussion? Council member Chamberlain.
[1:08:48]
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um I did want to call
[1:08:50]
out I believe it's J5 um that is from
[1:08:54]
Clerk Dixon her office um requesting we
[1:08:57]
always need to do that a satellite um
[1:08:59]
office and then it also lists the um
[1:09:03]
various kind of sequence of you know
[1:09:06]
everything you're doing with elections
[1:09:07]
coming up with our our primary election
[1:09:09]
coming up and then of course with the
[1:09:11]
general election and I'm sure my
[1:09:12]
colleagues may ask you to go over some
[1:09:14]
of that but wanted to call out to
[1:09:16]
residents you can find all of that um
[1:09:19]
when absentee ballots are are available
[1:09:22]
um and early voting and all that.
[1:09:24]
There's a nice list of the dates there.
[1:09:26]
Um I did want to ask maybe I missed it
[1:09:29]
here. Do we need to um does this cover
[1:09:31]
also the general clerk Dixon or do we
[1:09:34]
also have to prove the satellite office
[1:09:35]
for the um the general election?
[1:09:37]
>> Um we'll bring it back to you for the
[1:09:40]
general just to have another recap with
[1:09:42]
all of the dates and everything for the
[1:09:43]
November election. Um it's always a good
[1:09:45]
idea to bring that back. So, it's a good
[1:09:47]
excuse to do that.
[1:09:48]
>> Excellent. Thank you.
[1:09:51]
>> Any further discussion?
[1:09:52]
>> Vote. Miss Dixon.
[1:09:54]
>> Mayor Baker.
[1:09:54]
>> Yes.
[1:09:55]
>> Council member Brooks.
[1:09:56]
>> Yes.
[1:09:56]
>> Council member Chamberlain.
[1:09:58]
>> Yes.
[1:09:58]
>> Council member Gun.
[1:09:59]
>> Yes.
[1:09:59]
>> Council member Hamilton.
[1:10:00]
>> Yes. Motion carries. If you're here for
[1:10:02]
an item on the consent agenda, all have
[1:10:03]
been approved.
[1:10:05]
>> Uh, there are no memorandums. Excuse me.
[1:10:08]
There are no memorandums in future
[1:10:10]
council agenda items this evening.
[1:10:12]
Nobody has signed up for public comment
[1:10:13]
for items not on the agenda from Troy
[1:10:15]
residents and businesses. So, no need
[1:10:16]
for reply. There is no or there are no
[1:10:19]
council referrals this evening. Anyone
[1:10:21]
like to make any comments on any of the
[1:10:24]
reports? Council member Chamberlain.
[1:10:26]
>> Thank you, Mayor. So, I'd like to
[1:10:28]
comment on
[1:10:30]
O2A, the Rochester Road widening. Um, in
[1:10:35]
it, talks about the delays. I believe
[1:10:38]
it's um six months if that's correct.
[1:10:41]
and a couple of options. Um, we're
[1:10:45]
trying to work, it sounds like, with the
[1:10:47]
contractor to either get additional
[1:10:49]
support in to be able to complete this
[1:10:51]
as soon as possible or there's a
[1:10:54]
potential to move into the next
[1:10:57]
construction year because um, mid-
[1:10:59]
November all construction uh, basically
[1:11:02]
ceases because uh, it gets so cold in
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Michigan.
[1:11:05]
and they try to limit the impact of
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course on um you know on businesses in
[1:11:10]
the area. I went out there last week. It
[1:11:14]
just um I hadn't really you know had a
[1:11:16]
chance to go out and and talk with
[1:11:17]
businesses to see how folks are doing
[1:11:20]
but um businesses are impacted. Um I
[1:11:23]
went into one small business and they
[1:11:26]
said dining is it's non-existent right
[1:11:27]
now for them. Another one, the Matcha
[1:11:30]
Michael Cafe, they're doing okay. They
[1:11:32]
have a very loyal base. um the gentleman
[1:11:36]
said and you know he feels very grateful
[1:11:38]
for that but Jets Pizza for example also
[1:11:40]
they've seen a a pretty significant um
[1:11:43]
decline. So in my mind if there is a way
[1:11:47]
to move um you know sooner the better to
[1:11:50]
lessen the impact on businesses. My
[1:11:53]
understanding and maybe this could be
[1:11:55]
summarized is the holdup is with the
[1:11:56]
utilities that this project um is not
[1:12:00]
just us widening but there are private
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utility companies that are um do like
[1:12:04]
what from wow to um you know internet I
[1:12:07]
use wow service um others doing fiber
[1:12:10]
optics and the coordination and and some
[1:12:13]
of them they've been slow moving and
[1:12:14]
they're holding up the project that's
[1:12:16]
some of what I read in this memo and
[1:12:17]
maybe we can get a clarification on that
[1:12:20]
but um just the question I would ask
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with that is how likely between those
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two scenarios from what I recall in the
[1:12:28]
memo there's kind of two options where
[1:12:29]
we what do we think is going to happen
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and then I think the second thing is
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regardless
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could we do is there anything on the
[1:12:37]
city side we could do to have more
[1:12:38]
signage so I've noticed going into those
[1:12:41]
entryways
[1:12:43]
they're very tiny and you almost don't
[1:12:45]
think it is an entryway and um it
[1:12:48]
becomes complicated as someone's trying
[1:12:50]
to um exit and and enter at the same
[1:12:52]
time and you know could there be um
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whether the contractors put something up
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or just to be kind of clear um and then
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I don't know what is precedent for a
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city or whether that's working with the
[1:13:05]
chamber of commerce to have like open
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for business signs to be very clear to
[1:13:08]
people that um or to drive people
[1:13:11]
driving by that you know these business
[1:13:12]
they are open they are open um and you
[1:13:16]
know what we could do and even social
[1:13:18]
media um again maybe this is a
[1:13:20]
collaboration with the chamber And I I
[1:13:22]
would look to you, mayor, because you're
[1:13:23]
so heavily involved with the chamber,
[1:13:25]
something we can do to highlight um and
[1:13:27]
just emphasize that, you know, open for
[1:13:30]
business and really have a shop
[1:13:32]
Rochester kind of um emphasis. So, a lot
[1:13:35]
of questions I put out there from
[1:13:37]
economic development to um to actual to
[1:13:40]
the construction kind of engineering
[1:13:42]
thing. So, like to hear more if
[1:13:44]
possible.
[1:13:45]
>> Yeah. Can I ask actually a follow-up
[1:13:47]
question to that along along these
[1:13:48]
lines? I mean the memo is very clear
[1:13:49]
that there's some options that are
[1:13:51]
looked at. It [clears throat]
[1:13:55]
what would it take to work on
[1:13:57]
accelerating this or I mean we can't
[1:14:00]
funding's one thing, private utility
[1:14:02]
companies are one thing. Is there is
[1:14:03]
there something we can do to help um and
[1:14:07]
what does that look like?
[1:14:08]
>> Well, there's a lot of questions you ask
[1:14:10]
different things. So um as far as um
[1:14:13]
work on signage, of course we can look
[1:14:15]
at that. look at what options we have.
[1:14:18]
Of course, we want to help the
[1:14:19]
businesses um the best we can. Um any
[1:14:23]
future closures, I've had discussions
[1:14:25]
with staff. We're going to do some hand
[1:14:27]
deliveries and and make sure we reach
[1:14:29]
out to individual b businesses to give
[1:14:32]
them as much leeway as possible and make
[1:14:35]
sure it's communicated out to them. But
[1:14:37]
as far as the options that came from
[1:14:39]
HRC, I know we have our city engineer
[1:14:42]
Scott Finley here. I'd ask him to come
[1:14:44]
up real quick and maybe um answer a
[1:14:47]
little bit more on the options portion.
[1:14:57]
» Good evening, Mayor Council.
[1:14:59]
Um yeah, I mean our biggest hold up to
[1:15:02]
start with with DTE. They have to move
[1:15:04]
all the poles and move first and they
[1:15:06]
kind of move from top down. they were
[1:15:09]
the biggest hold up that kind of domino
[1:15:12]
effect on all the other utilities. I
[1:15:13]
mean currently right now Comcast is the
[1:15:16]
hold up uh they don't want to cut their
[1:15:19]
they have a limited window nationwide
[1:15:22]
policy right now because the World Cup's
[1:15:24]
going on
[1:15:25]
>> to put people out of service. So they
[1:15:27]
need to do fiber transfers before they
[1:15:29]
can move off the poles moving the poles
[1:15:31]
out of the way that are in where the
[1:15:32]
roadway is going to go. So,
[1:15:36]
we don't have a clear schedule yet as to
[1:15:38]
when all the utilities are going to be
[1:15:39]
clear.
[1:15:41]
We're pushing and hoping that it'll be
[1:15:44]
by the end of July. And at that time, we
[1:15:47]
can sit down with Dan and they can
[1:15:48]
actually lay out a schedule as to what
[1:15:50]
it's going to take to complete this
[1:15:52]
project by mid November or what kind of
[1:15:55]
shape can we get it in by no mid
[1:15:57]
November and extend a few things over to
[1:16:00]
next season. So until we have a good
[1:16:02]
date from the utilities, you know, we
[1:16:05]
can't really work, you know, we have an
[1:16:07]
idea, but we need that util a clear date
[1:16:10]
from utilities is being moved. Um, you
[1:16:14]
know, accelerating the the project is
[1:16:16]
not a federally funded thing. So that
[1:16:19]
would be a city expense. If we want them
[1:16:22]
to work 12 hours a day, if we want them
[1:16:24]
to bring in 100 more people and get this
[1:16:25]
done, those extra costs would be 100%
[1:16:28]
the city's responsibility.
[1:16:31]
the federal tax dollars pay for the road
[1:16:33]
improvements. They don't pay for the
[1:16:35]
utility delays and then us incentivizing
[1:16:38]
the contractor to get get it done on
[1:16:41]
time.
[1:16:42]
So,
[1:16:44]
we're just trying to forewarn council
[1:16:46]
that, you know, come about September, we
[1:16:48]
might have some of these decisions to
[1:16:49]
make.
[1:16:51]
Uh Dan's, you know, the contractor's
[1:16:53]
original schedule, all of the northbound
[1:16:56]
lanes should have been done June 1st. We
[1:16:58]
should be working on the southbound side
[1:17:00]
right now. Now, looking at their
[1:17:02]
schedule, it's laid out from one day to
[1:17:05]
the end through November. Are there
[1:17:07]
opportunities where we can do things
[1:17:09]
concurrent? Like, you know, the other
[1:17:10]
the guy was talking. Yeah, there's going
[1:17:12]
to be some opportunities that we think
[1:17:14]
we can pick up a few weeks, but a few
[1:17:17]
weeks in in November, you don't get as
[1:17:19]
much daylight. It takes longer to cure.
[1:17:21]
So, we might not make as much progress,
[1:17:24]
but every day will help.
[1:17:28]
While I have you there, what's the
[1:17:30]
update on the Long Lake and Rochester
[1:17:31]
Road closure? Any Are we on schedule
[1:17:33]
with that?
[1:17:34]
>> We We're currently on schedule for that
[1:17:36]
one. So, that one's scheduled for 3-week
[1:17:38]
closure and we are on schedule to meet
[1:17:40]
that.
[1:17:40]
>> Okay. Council member G.
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>> Um to my comment top of Rebecca's is if there can't be any additional social
[1:17:49]
media or any more marketing because yeah
[1:17:52]
the signs are good but a lot of people
[1:17:54]
are avoiding Rochester road because of
[1:17:56]
the obvious congestion. I've already
[1:17:58]
seen McV's closed non closed. Uh El
[1:18:01]
Gaster I'm sure there's going to be more
[1:18:03]
that follow because people just aren't
[1:18:05]
using the road you know. So we can see a
[1:18:07]
glut of uh closed down businesses.
[1:18:10]
I agree.
[1:18:13]
>> Books
[1:18:13]
>> and I would just add, you know, like
[1:18:14]
Gillies is there as well, ice cream, and
[1:18:16]
I felt bad. They put a a post on social
[1:18:19]
media and they're seasonal. So, their
[1:18:22]
high season is right now. And so,
[1:18:24]
without them having the business right
[1:18:25]
now, that makes it very very difficult
[1:18:27]
for them throughout the rest of the
[1:18:28]
year. So, I just I really really am
[1:18:31]
concerned about the businesses in
[1:18:33]
general in that area.
[1:18:37]
» Chamber,
[1:18:37]
>> just a follow-up question. um city
[1:18:39]
engineer uh Finley
[1:18:41]
in terms of the decision-m I understand
[1:18:43]
that's a lot of an administrative
[1:18:45]
decision is there to decide if if there
[1:18:48]
is you know the budget to be able to
[1:18:50]
expedite and if it makes sense with
[1:18:52]
timing it sounds like it could be that
[1:18:54]
even if we tried that we still might run
[1:18:57]
into a time where the roads aren't going
[1:18:59]
to cure in the way that we need them to
[1:19:02]
is there a way for us to be kept in the
[1:19:03]
loop to be able at some point when you
[1:19:05]
know more whether it's through a Q&A um
[1:19:07]
is just on a weekly update to just so
[1:19:10]
we're a breast of things and um in you
[1:19:13]
know in the know of what all you guys
[1:19:15]
are learning with this.
[1:19:17]
>> Yeah, I think that's fair enough. We
[1:19:18]
have bi-weekly progress meetings on
[1:19:21]
Wednesday. So I think the timing you
[1:19:23]
know when we get that update moving
[1:19:25]
forward because you know there may be
[1:19:27]
some significant decisions for you to
[1:19:29]
make you know and that's why we wanted
[1:19:31]
to come out now and kind of give you an
[1:19:33]
update that there should some things to
[1:19:36]
think about. So I we'll make a note and
[1:19:38]
after our progress meeting I'll send
[1:19:40]
something the city manager to send out
[1:19:42]
in the Q&A every two weeks.
[1:19:45]
>> Thank you.
[1:19:46]
>> I think the other component so
[1:19:48]
>> we we will we can talk to the chamber
[1:19:51]
too about my originally their their
[1:19:55]
thought was well we only promote chamber
[1:19:58]
businesses which I understand that
[1:20:00]
concept. I made the counter argument,
[1:20:02]
well, your chamber businesses will do
[1:20:04]
better if all city businesses are also
[1:20:06]
doing well. It kind of works across the
[1:20:07]
board. So, I think we can work a little
[1:20:09]
bit with that. My my other concern
[1:20:11]
obviously is
[1:20:13]
I've been telling people for as long as
[1:20:15]
I could that it'll be primarily done by
[1:20:17]
November. So, don't worry if we get
[1:20:19]
through this year and this businesses,
[1:20:20]
residents. Um, and I I don't think it's
[1:20:24]
just about social media. Um, and it can
[1:20:28]
be, but I I want to make sure the
[1:20:30]
businesses in the area understand if
[1:20:32]
there is when we know that things are
[1:20:34]
not like or even now we should probably
[1:20:36]
be talking to them about there's a
[1:20:37]
chance. I mean, we're doing it publicly
[1:20:38]
right now, but you know, I I want I
[1:20:40]
don't want any surprises in the fall for
[1:20:42]
the business community or residents
[1:20:44]
along that area to learn that it's a
[1:20:46]
whole another season. They're going to
[1:20:48]
have to deal with this. So, um, that's
[1:20:50]
not a Scott Finley comment so much in as
[1:20:53]
much as city management, but
[1:20:54]
>> I think the second season if it does
[1:20:56]
push over, I we'd have two lanes
[1:20:59]
completed on the southbound side and all
[1:21:02]
the side street approaches and the
[1:21:03]
businesses. So, you know, the access
[1:21:05]
would be
[1:21:06]
>> a lot easier. Your your left lane and
[1:21:09]
the turnarounds would be the part that
[1:21:12]
are going to be iffy.
[1:21:14]
>> Okay. Still though,
[1:21:16]
>> yeah,
[1:21:16]
>> I hate to have it also look like a war
[1:21:18]
zone through all of winter. I think
[1:21:19]
that's the other
[1:21:21]
>> It's not looking great right now as it
[1:21:23]
is um as you drive through, but uh any
[1:21:26]
other comments?
[1:21:31]
» I can't remember where we are. Here we
[1:21:32]
are. Okay. Uh and no other comments on
[1:21:34]
any of the other reports.
[1:21:37]
>> How about council comments? I won't skip
[1:21:39]
those this week. Council Hamilton,
[1:21:41]
>> um congrats to the Troy Cowboys for 70
[1:21:44]
years. It's hard to believe they've been
[1:21:45]
around that long. I growing up they were
[1:21:48]
always here. I think one or two of my
[1:21:50]
nephews were on them for a while. Um I
[1:21:52]
just asked them, can they train some
[1:21:54]
Lions defensive backs cuz they really
[1:21:56]
need them badly. Um so anyway, um but
[1:21:59]
also I have some amazing personal news
[1:22:02]
to share. Um couple weeks ago was at
[1:22:06]
work and got a call from my wife that
[1:22:08]
she found out that our foster daughter
[1:22:10]
Kiki um her adoption was finalized. And
[1:22:14]
so, you know, my family is now complete
[1:22:16]
and that's done. And it it was an
[1:22:19]
amazing thing. It felt like the day my
[1:22:21]
do first daughter was born. So, it it's
[1:22:24]
a great news to share and we're going to
[1:22:25]
Disney World in 3 weeks to celebrate.
[1:22:27]
So,
[1:22:28]
>> I'll have to won the Super Bowl.
[1:22:31]
>> I'll have to remote into that council
[1:22:33]
meeting, but it's for a good purpose
[1:22:34]
because Yeah.
[1:22:36]
>> Very good. Congratulations, David. That is good news. I know it's a long
[1:22:40]
process, long history. So, Oh, yeah.
[1:22:42]
Well deserved.
[1:22:44]
>> Additional council comments. Council
[1:22:45]
gun.
[1:22:46]
>> Um well, first just to kind of
[1:22:48]
reiterate, remember our 250 celebration
[1:22:51]
Wednesday is moving inside Detroit
[1:22:53]
Community Center. So hopefully we get a
[1:22:55]
big attendance for that. Um I
[1:22:57]
congratulations Dave. That's good news.
[1:23:00]
Um I just also I want to call out Frank
[1:23:03]
and your staff. I know we bombard you. I
[1:23:06]
see all the questions. I get them. We
[1:23:08]
all get them. We get them to you guys.
[1:23:11]
And I appreciate you being regular about
[1:23:14]
getting information so we can get it
[1:23:15]
back to the citizens because it's a lot
[1:23:17]
of stuff that comes at us and uh I
[1:23:19]
really appreciate that. I also want to
[1:23:22]
recognize as you know Fourth of July
[1:23:24]
this is a big one for all of us. Um I'm
[1:23:27]
very thankful to to live in Troy and and
[1:23:30]
all the diversity we have and that I
[1:23:32]
hope everybody has a very safe 4th of
[1:23:34]
July. I want to thank uh I know the
[1:23:37]
police, fire, public works are all going
[1:23:39]
to be working extra hard to make sure
[1:23:40]
we're all enjoying a safe holiday and u
[1:23:44]
just very thankful to be an American and
[1:23:47]
I say that as a Native American. Okay.
[1:23:49]
So [laughter] very thankful. So hope you
[1:23:53]
all have a good Fourth of July.
[1:23:54]
>> You too
[1:23:56]
Chamberlain.
[1:23:57]
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um and
[1:23:59]
congratulations, Dave. Uh and and to
[1:24:01]
follow what you just shared, Council
[1:24:02]
Member Gun. Um, happy happy 250th
[1:24:06]
birthday to America. And I always say
[1:24:09]
that the heart of America, it's really
[1:24:11]
it's in our communities, it's our
[1:24:13]
cities, it's our towns, it's our
[1:24:15]
villages, it's here in Troy. So, I do
[1:24:17]
hope folks will join us um Wednesday. I
[1:24:20]
was going to say tomorrow, but that's
[1:24:21]
Wednesday inside 5:30 p.m. Mayor, right?
[1:24:24]
And there's cake. There's cake for the
[1:24:26]
community. So, it's that's beautiful. If
[1:24:29]
anything, yeah, come come out. Um but
[1:24:31]
it's a very it's it's special on many
[1:24:33]
levels. Um I have an ancestor who fought
[1:24:36]
in the American Revolution who fought
[1:24:38]
for our freedom. Phoeni.
[1:24:41]
So um it's it's something that is uh is near and dear to my to my family. We
[1:24:46]
don't take uh freedom for granted. Also
[1:24:49]
want to remember um fireworks safety. So
[1:24:52]
think I want to thank the city for
[1:24:53]
putting out some posts in advance. It's
[1:24:55]
a reminder that you can only use
[1:24:57]
fireworks what is it from June 29th. um
[1:25:00]
to July to July 4th um 11:45 p.m. And a
[1:25:05]
fun fact, no public places. So that
[1:25:08]
means sidewalks and streets. And I was
[1:25:11]
thinking where do I where where does my
[1:25:12]
family sometimes do some little poppers
[1:25:15]
and and such. So it's a reminder no
[1:25:17]
public spaces. Um and just to be mindful
[1:25:21]
to be safe. Sadly, every year there is
[1:25:24]
an un um sadly unwarranted, un tragedy,
[1:25:28]
um a loss of life, an injury due to
[1:25:31]
unsafe um use of artwork. So, just
[1:25:33]
encourage every folks celebrate, but um
[1:25:36]
do so safely. And again, happy birthday,
[1:25:38]
America.
[1:25:40]
>> Council member Brooks.
[1:25:41]
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um I also just wanted
[1:25:43]
to say um I'm looking forward to the
[1:25:45]
America 250 celebration that we will be
[1:25:47]
having here in Troy as well. Um, and I
[1:25:50]
think it's great that we also get to
[1:25:52]
enjoy the farmers market and the summer
[1:25:53]
concert series all on the same day.
[1:25:56]
Unfortunately, you know, the weather is
[1:25:58]
not going to be cooperative, but it's
[1:25:59]
it'll still be a wonderful celebration
[1:26:01]
and a really gathering for our
[1:26:04]
community. That'll be really really
[1:26:05]
beautiful. Um, the other thing I wanted
[1:26:08]
to point out is the Troy Garden Club is
[1:26:11]
having their 51st annual garden walk
[1:26:14]
that will be on Wednesday, July 8th. Um,
[1:26:17]
you can get tickets online or at the
[1:26:19]
Troy Historic Village. And this is
[1:26:21]
always a beautiful event where people
[1:26:23]
open up their homes where they have
[1:26:24]
beautiful gardens and you kind of just
[1:26:26]
walk around and you can observe and and
[1:26:28]
enjoy that. Um, so that's a wonderful
[1:26:30]
event that happens every year. And same
[1:26:33]
thing, happy 4th of July everybody. This
[1:26:35]
is a very special year for our country
[1:26:38]
and I hope everyone is safe and and
[1:26:41]
enjoys it. So thank you.
[1:26:43]
>> Thank you. I uh
[1:26:46]
I often wonder what if I would be the
[1:26:48]
opposite of a Troy garden club, try and
[1:26:50]
walk the worst looking yard. I thought
[1:26:52]
that would be a kind of Stop laughing,
[1:26:54]
Kurt. [laughter]
[1:26:56]
But uh you know the I wasn't um I'll be
[1:27:00]
47 this year, so I wasn't born when the bsentennial happened in 1976, but
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like I've seen all this amazing footage
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and I think
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like this is a big deal. we celebrate
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these and you know whatever you feel
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about the state of politics or the state
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of some of our leaders on all sides um
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you know we're here in America and we
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are celebrating something it is very
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unique there won't be like I mean I
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could most of us probably won't make it
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to the 300 right [laughter] so you know
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these are these are big monumental times
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and I think it's important that we take
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time to recognize um what we do have in
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common and what we do share in this
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country um and certainly here in the
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city of Troy. Um I'm very proud of our
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city and the community members that we
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have here because I continue to hear and
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see so much of the good that happens um
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in America right here at the city of
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Troy. So um I'm totally disappointed
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that we're moving the event indoors on
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Wednesday night, but it's uh better to
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do that than to have people passing out
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in real field temperatures of 110
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degrees. Even though I offered earlier
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to hose everybody down and see park that wasn't a popular opinion. So maybe
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just council members. We should do that
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for charity. That'd be fun.
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>> Yeah. Right. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. They want the fire truck.
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>> Um we we left them 250 years ago for
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that reason. So no. Um I
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celebrate. Be safe everybody. Um
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I'm
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be mindful of the fireworks regulations
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and laws. be mindful of. Uh not
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everybody loves loud noises outside of
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their homes um at night, whether that's
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kids or pets or um people with neurode
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divergence or just regular people who
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are tired of it as a certain time. But
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celebrate responsibly. Um have a really
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good time. Hope to see a lot of you
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Wednesday evening um at the community
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center at senior center. The um Elton
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John tribute performance is supposed to
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be really really good. uh he's a really
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talented. So um I hope people turn out
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for that and maybe we'll even have
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better attendance because it's indoors
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with air conditioning. That's what I'm
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hoping for. So anyway um that's it. So
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thank you and uh we don't have anyone
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signed up for public comment for items
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on or not on the agenda for members of
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the public outside of Troy. We don't
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have the close session this evening so
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we're adjourned.