[1:12] [Sounding gavel]

[1:12] >>Mayor Pachota: all right.

[1:14] Let's call this meeting to

[1:14] order.

[1:15] MADAM Clerk, a roll call,

[1:17] please.

[1:18] >>Kevin Engelke: here.

[1:20] >>Rachel Frank: here.

[1:21] >>Rick Howard: here.

[1:23] >>Ron Smith: here.

[1:24] >>Lloyd Weed: here.

[1:26] >>Vice Mayor Boldt: here.

[1:27] >>Mayor Pachota: and I'm here as

[1:27] well.

[1:29] We will stand for the invocation

[1:36] and today's pledge can be led by

[1:37] captain hill.

[1:38] >>Kelly Michaels: lord father,

[1:39] we pray for our mayor, city

[1:41] council and all who serve our

[1:41] community.

[1:43] Strengthen us with wisdom and

[1:44] grace for the work that we do

[1:45] every day.

[1:47] MAY our duties be carried out

[1:48] with respect and care, keeping

[1:50] our hearts pure as we work

[1:51] towards the best interests of

[1:52] all of our residents.

[1:56] Amen.

[2:13] [Pledge of allegiance]

[2:14] >>Mayor Pachota: okay.

[2:17] Let's have some fun.

[2:19] If we could get the police chief

[2:22] to join me up front, and we will

[2:23] start with james browning and

[2:52] family.

[2:53] >> good morning, everybody.

[2:56] This is a great day for the

[2:56] police department.

[2:59] We get to have three promotions

[3:02] that we're celebrating.

[3:04] First, I just want to thank city

[3:05] council for kind of helping us

[3:07] over the recent months to

[3:09] reorganize our department,

[3:10] creating some new positions as

[3:12] well and helping us to move

[3:12] forward.

[3:15] thank you for that and for

[3:16] celebrating these moments with

[3:18] us.

[3:21] The supervisors will be taking

[3:22] the oath of office.

[3:23] When you start as a police

[3:26] officer, you take this oath and

[3:27] during these milestones where

[3:28] they take on new

[3:30] responsibilities, it's a good

[3:31] opportunity to publicly renew

[3:32] that oath.

[3:35] That oath is to uphold the

[3:38] constitution and the laws of the

[3:40] state of florida and the trust

[3:43] that the community puts in them.

[3:44] Then we have pinning of the

[3:47] badge, which is part of the

[3:49] ceremony where, in this case,

[3:53] the badge elevates them to a new

[3:53] role.

[3:57] If anyone has a business, you

[3:59] know that your line-level

[4:01] supervisors are some of the most

[4:01] important.

[4:02] James browning here is moving

[4:04] into that critical role.

[4:06] He will be a role model for the

[4:06] officers.

[4:10] A lot of them you see here.

[4:13] And really as a supervisor sets

[4:14] the tone for the organization.

[4:16] So we're looking forward to him

[4:18] taking on this new

[4:18] responsibility.

[4:21] And then we incorporate family,

[4:23] his wife jessica is here, into

[4:25] this moment because these

[4:27] achievements are not their own.

[4:29] It's shared achievements because

[4:31] their family is with them during

[4:32] all the hard times and all the

[4:34] good times as well.

[4:35] We're glad to have her here with

[4:36] us.

[5:06] Let's go ahead and get started.

[5:11] >> I james browning, do solemnly

[5:12] swear, that I will support,

[5:16] protect, and defend the

[5:19] constitution and government of

[5:21] the united states and of the

[5:22] state of florida.

[5:26] That I am duly qualified to hold

[5:28] my position under the

[5:31] constitution of the state.

[5:35] That I will well and faithfully

[5:40] perform the duties of sergeant

[5:42] of which I am now about to

[5:42] enter.

[5:44] So help me GOD.

[6:01] [Applause]

[6:46] [Applause]

[6:51] >> when we swear in the new

[6:52] officers, I usually don't make

[6:53] them say anything.

[6:55] As a supervisor, I feel like

[6:56] it's only appropriate.

[7:00] [Laughter]

[7:03] >> thank you, chief.

[7:04] First, I want to say I'm

[7:06] grateful and thankful for GOD

[7:09] for giving me this point.

[7:15] Also, I want to thank my wife --

[7:16] >> yep.

[7:19] [Laughter]

[7:20] >> -- my family, my kids who

[7:23] have been my support system and

[7:25] have sacrificed so much.

[7:26] Thank you guys.

[7:27] Thank you, chief, and the

[7:30] command staff for entrusting me

[7:33] with this new role and position.

[7:39] I don't take it lightly.

[7:44] The officers, my past

[7:45] supervisors, colleagues, thank

[7:47] you for getting me to this

[7:47] point.

[7:48] You guys have assisted me and

[7:50] helped me out so much.

[7:51] I really appreciate you.

[7:53] I'm thankful for this

[7:53] opportunity.

[7:55] Thank you.

[8:05] [Applause]

[8:10] >>Mayor Pachota: next, we'll get

[8:24] matt sauchinitz and family.

[8:31] >> this is another great

[8:36] promotion -- thank you.

[8:38] With the pinning of this badge,

[8:41] now we're moving to a higher

[8:44] level of authority and

[8:45] responsibility.

[8:47] Not only is he still being the

[8:48] model for the officers, but he's

[8:50] also running a division.

[8:51] He will be in charge of the

[8:53] patrol division as he takes on

[8:55] this new role as captain.

[8:58] So he will also be developing

[8:58] supervisors now.

[9:00] The sergeants and lieutenants

[9:02] that work under his command.

[9:04] And he's certainly shown over

[9:06] the years that he's prepared for

[9:08] this job with his dedication and

[9:13] his service.

[9:16] I've known matt a long time.

[9:18] Pretty cool for me, too, and

[9:18] jill.

[9:20] I might need a hug.

[9:21] Of course, jill has been there

[9:23] through all the difficult times

[9:24] and all the good times.

[9:27] And there's been many of both.

[9:28] I'm glad to see you here as

[9:29] well.

[9:38] Let's go ahead and do this.

[9:42] >> I, matthew sauchinitz, do

[9:43] solemnly swear that I will

[9:47] support, protect, and defend,

[9:49] the constitution and government

[9:53] of the united states and of the

[9:56] state of florida, that I am duly

[9:59] qualified to hold my position

[10:02] under the constitution of the

[10:04] state.

[10:06] That I will well and faithfully

[10:11] perform the duties of captain on

[10:12] which I am now about to enter,

[10:16] so help me GOD.

[10:22] [Applause]

[10:28] >> now the pinning of the badge.

[10:50] [Applause]

[10:57] >> all right, matt.

[11:01] It's your turn.

[11:02] >> first, thank you for

[11:04] everybody being here today,

[11:05] supporting me and my family in

[11:07] this ceremony, along with the

[11:09] other people getting promoted.

[11:11] it really means a lot to feel

[11:12] that support.

[11:14] First and foremost, I need to

[11:17] thank my beautiful wife here.

[11:17] Every law enforcement officer

[11:20] that comes up here, the first

[11:21] person they recognize and

[11:24] support is their wife, their

[11:24] husband, their significant

[11:25] other.

[11:27] And there is a reason for that.

[11:28] Law enforcement can be

[11:28] challenging.

[11:30] We have our ups and downs.

[11:33] I've been doing this for 18

[11:33] years.

[11:35] My beautiful wife has been by my

[11:37] side the whole time.

[11:40] She's been there to support me,

[11:42] listen to me, be with me.

[11:42] Thank you.

[11:44] I love you, sweetie.

[11:46] Next, you two.

[11:49] There is a common expression

[11:51] that some things in life are

[11:54] bigger than you.

[11:55] It's true.

[11:57] Thank you for allowing me to

[12:00] understand that and believe.

[12:02] Mom and I are so proud of you.

[12:04] We love you.

[12:05] I love both of you.

[12:08] Thank you.

[12:14] [Applause]

[12:15] My family, my parents and my

[12:18] brother, who are sitting here

[12:20] and many of you here today,

[12:21] thank you for the support.

[12:22] Some of you would find this hard

[12:23] to believe.

[12:23] It is true.

[12:27] I was the wild child growing up.

[12:30] I put my parents through quite a

[12:31] bit.

[12:34] Right after 2001, the terrorist

[12:35] attacks, I decided to join the

[12:36] military.

[12:38] I joined the marines.

[12:40] 24 years ago I was sitting at my

[12:42] dinner table and I told my mom

[12:44] and my dad, I said I'm going to

[12:44] join the marines.

[12:46] It was 2003.

[12:48] There was a lot going on in the

[12:48] world.

[12:50] My mom looked at me and said,

[12:52] "you know that is the hardest

[12:53] one, right?"

[12:55] I said, yes, I know.

[12:56] That was it.

[12:57] That's all she said.

[12:58] As mother and father, they

[12:59] supported me for everything I

[13:00] went through.

[13:02] When I came back to the world,

[13:04] they made sure that I was

[13:05] standing upright and supported

[13:07] me into the next path.

[13:08] Thank you and I love you.

[13:11] To my brother, hardest working

[13:12] guy I've ever met.

[13:13] Thank you for being that mentor

[13:15] and showing me what real work

[13:16] ethic is.

[13:17] Thank you.

[13:19] Finally, everybody in the back,

[13:21] you know, sworn, non-sworn,

[13:23] civilian, not just the police

[13:24] department, it's the city.

[13:25] We have so many great people

[13:26] that work here.

[13:28] Been privileged to see that for

[13:30] 18 years of everybody who really

[13:32] puts in time every day to make

[13:35] sure that the city is running to

[13:37] the best we can.

[13:38] Thank you for your public

[13:38] service.

[13:39] I really appreciate that.

[13:41] Thank you all.

[13:42] Have a good day.

[13:46] [Applause]

[13:52] >>Mayor Pachota: all right.

[13:54] That's it for promotional

[13:55] ceremonies today.

[13:57] [Laughter]

[13:59] If we could get alicia white to

[14:02] come up with the kids.

[14:03] Louis, you're going to be

[14:05] postponed to NOVEMBER 3rd when

[14:34] i'm not in office anymore.

[14:35] >> all right.

[14:37] Got to keep the mayor in line

[14:37] sometimes.

[14:43] It's not an easy job.

[14:46] For this next pinning and oath

[14:48] of office, again, I want to

[14:49] thank council, because this is a

[14:51] position that kind of went away

[14:53] from our department for a while.

[14:56] And it was much-needed, so I

[14:57] appreciate the opportunity to

[15:00] bring it back.

[15:02] Deputy chief white is certainly

[15:04] the right person for the job.

[15:06] This role certainly has the

[15:09] highest level of trust at our

[15:10] agency, but not only that, with

[15:12] the city as well being that it's

[15:15] with the police department.

[15:17] He's not only making sure our

[15:19] mission and vision is

[15:23] implemented, he now has a hand

[15:24] in shaping that.

[15:25] Very important role and he's

[15:27] proven time and time again that

[15:29] he's prepared for it through his

[15:31] efforts and dedication.

[15:33] Alicia, thank you for being

[15:35] here.

[15:36] Again, I know all the phone

[15:38] calls that I've made to him at

[15:39] night that you probably had to

[15:41] hear and all the good times, the

[15:43] bad times throughout his career

[15:46] and the sacrifices that he's

[15:48] made that you've stood behind

[15:48] him.

[15:49] Thank you for being there.

[15:58] Let's go ahead and get started.

[16:03] >> I, louis white, do solemnly

[16:04] swear that I will support,

[16:06] protect, and defend, the

[16:10] constitution and government of

[16:12] the united states and of the

[16:16] state of florida, that I am duly

[16:19] qualified to hold my position

[16:23] under the constitution of the

[16:25] state and that I will well and

[16:37] faithfully perform the duties of

[16:39] deputy chief of which I am now

[16:43] about to enter, so help me GOD.

[16:56] [Applause]

[17:02] >> the mayor is going to help

[17:05] out with the pinning today.

[17:08] He secretly fired him I think 22

[17:09] times.

[17:10] 2200 times.

[17:15] So this is redemption.

[17:19] [Applause]

[17:20] Congratulations.

[17:29] >> thank you to MR. Mayor for

[17:31] pinning me.

[17:33] Chief, for your dedication to

[17:35] kind of mentoring me in this

[17:36] role, preparing me with this

[17:39] role and trusting me with the

[17:39] role.

[17:42] To the city manager, appreciate

[17:43] it and venice city council for

[17:44] voting yes on the staffing

[17:46] changes and some of the things

[17:47] we have forthcoming.

[17:48] To my wife, I appreciate it.

[17:51] Thank you for being with me all

[17:51] these years.

[17:55] I know the late-night calls from

[17:56] lieutenant danaman often two,

[17:59] three times after 2 A.M., gets

[18:00] stressful.

[18:01] Usually she boots me to the

[18:03] couch after the second call.

[18:04] I do appreciate it.

[18:05] To my kids for understanding

[18:07] when daddy walks away with a

[18:09] phone call from the chief, from

[18:11] the mayor or whoever it MAY be.

[18:13] Love you guys.

[18:16] To the staff in the back,

[18:18] officers, I think the most

[18:19] important thing of the staffing

[18:21] study that came out of it in had

[18:23] my mind was we're running lean,

[18:24] right?

[18:25] You guys feel that day in and

[18:26] day out.

[18:29] What the staffing study vendors

[18:32] came to us with was, it's your

[18:35] effort, your daily effort and

[18:36] dedication, really, that make

[18:37] sure we uphold the standards

[18:39] that the citizens expect, that

[18:40] the council expects and that the

[18:41] chief expects.

[18:43] So hold that high.

[18:45] Hold your chin high as we move

[18:46] forward.

[18:47] There could be budget

[18:49] constraints coming up with the

[18:51] property tax amendment, but

[18:52] we'll shift stuff around, work

[18:53] lean if we have to, and we'll

[18:55] get it accomplished.

[18:56] Just trust us to move forward

[18:58] with that.

[19:00] That's all I have.

[19:02] I do appreciate the chief again

[19:04] for kind of mentoring me in this

[19:06] role and getting me ready and

[19:08] prepped for the future.

[19:14] [Applause]

[19:21] >>Mayor Pachota: with that, we

[19:22] will come back at 30 after.

[19:24] We'll go take photos out front

[20:19] [Sounding gavel]

[20:19] >>Mayor Pachota: okay.

[20:20] We are back.

[20:24] We are now on to audience

[20:26] participation.

[20:27] Audience participation will be

[20:29] limited to one hour for the

[20:32] first portion.

[20:33] MADAM Clerk, how many do you

[20:34] have signed up?

[20:35] >>Kelly Michaels: six.

[20:36] >>Mayor Pachota: six.

[20:36] Okay.

[20:38] Speakers are not to address

[20:39] council members individually.

[20:40] Any person making personal,

[20:42] impertinent or slanderous

[20:43] remarks or becomes disorderly

[20:44] MAY be barred from the meeting.

[20:46] This is an opportunity to

[20:46] provide the city council with

[20:47] your comments.

[20:48] City council will not respond to

[20:50] any questions or comments during

[20:52] this time per the city code.

[20:53] A member of city staff will

[20:55] follow up with you if it's

[20:55] appropriate.

[20:57] Any documents shown during

[20:58] audience participation or part

[20:59] of the meeting must be given to

[21:00] the clerk for the official

[21:01] record.

[21:03] MADAM Clerk, our first speaker.

[21:04] >>Kelly Michaels: our first

[21:08] speaker is steve ogle thorpe.

[21:13] He has five minutes.

[21:22] >>Mayor Pachota: good morning

[21:26] and welcome, sir.

[21:29] >> good morning, MR. Mayor,

[21:30] council members, and city of

[21:31] venice staff.

[21:34] My name is steve oglethorpe.

[21:37] I live here in venice.

[21:39] I believe that city employees

[21:41] are misleading the city council

[21:43] and the public about intentions

[21:45] for the airport.

[21:47] I believe this based on recent

[21:49] information presented by city

[21:51] employees.

[21:53] In a nutshell, they are telling

[21:55] the council and public one thing

[21:57] while telling the federal

[21:58] aviation administration the

[22:00] opposite.

[22:03] On JUNE 23rd, james clinch,

[22:05] the venice city manager, led a

[22:08] presentation to the council.

[22:09] That presentation included

[22:11] several statements.

[22:16] First, that venice is not

[22:18] working on increasing or

[22:20] decreasing operations at the

[22:21] airport.

[22:22] In the presentation the word

[22:27] "not" is in bold capitals.

[22:28] Second, venice is not working on

[22:30] what he called the t word.

[22:32] It is the airport administration

[22:32] building.

[22:34] In the presentation, the word

[22:37] "not" is in bold capitals.

[22:39] Yet in the JULY faa discussion

[22:43] briefing by nicholas dew mass,

[22:44] the airport director for the

[22:46] city, there is discussion of,

[22:48] first, a quote, new terminal

[22:49] project and control room

[22:51] timeline.

[22:55] Second, a budget for venice to

[22:58] hire five full-time staff to

[23:00] manage increased traffic.

[23:01] Third, planning to fund this

[23:03] through, quote, protecting and

[23:06] expanding the airport's existing

[23:08] revenue base.

[23:10] Fourth, quote, growth driven

[23:12] revenue through, quote, flight

[23:14] training expansion, corporate

[23:18] and business aviation, increased

[23:20] transit operations and new

[23:22] aviation business development.

[23:26] Fifth, a quote 29.8 percent

[23:27] projected revenue growth over

[23:29] the period fiscal year '26 to

[23:34] fiscal year '29.

[23:37] Finally, of a, quote, new

[23:39] terminal building, a two-story

[23:43] hurricane hardened terminal

[23:44] administration building at a

[23:46] projected cost of 7 to 9

[23:47] million.

[23:50] These recent presentations are

[23:51] directly contradictory.

[23:53] The public is being told one

[23:53] thing.

[23:55] The faa another.

[23:58] One position or the other is

[24:01] intentionally deceptive.

[24:02] MR. Mayor and council members, I

[24:05] request that the city end any

[24:07] and all current applications,

[24:09] negotiations, or plans underway

[24:13] with the federal aviation

[24:13] administration.

[24:18] Further, I request that venice

[24:21] scrap all vnc master planning to

[24:22] date and begin anew with a

[24:23] process characterized by honest

[24:25] and open communication among all

[24:26] stakeholders.

[24:33] Thank you very much.

[24:34] >>Kelly Michaels: the next

[24:35] speaker is amber jacob.

[24:43] She has five minutes.

[24:47] >>Mayor Pachota: good morning

[24:47] and welcome.

[24:49] >> good morning.

[24:50] Good morning, all.

[24:52] My name is amber jacob.

[24:55] I am with my favorite race

[24:55] events.

[24:57] We are a local company nonprofit

[25:01] that produces 5Ks, 10Ks and

[25:04] was planned to introduce our

[25:07] very first half marathon this

[25:07] year.

[25:09] Our largest event, megalodon

[25:10] weekend, is held the first

[25:11] weekend in MARCH.

[25:14] On topic with the airport,

[25:16] unfortunately, last spring we

[25:17] were sent an e-mail that said we

[25:20] could move forward with

[25:21] permitting our events but there

[25:22] was no guarantee that we would

[25:25] be allowed to have our event.

[25:27] That being said, we have about

[25:29] 1200 people that take place in

[25:30] our megalodon weekend.

[25:32] We bring in a lot of revenue.

[25:35] We bring in a lot of volunteers.

[25:36] We include the entire community

[25:39] in our events and we give back a

[25:41] ton of money to the community.

[25:43] We could not launch our event

[25:44] because we can't take thousands

[25:46] of dollars from people and then

[25:48] tell them, hey, sorry, by the

[25:51] way, the event is not happening.

[25:53] Luckily, darlene culpepper has

[25:54] worked tirelessly to get us kind

[25:55] of an answer.

[25:57] And we were just told maybe two

[25:58] weeks ago that we could move

[26:00] forward with permitting and

[26:02] housing our events at the

[26:06] airport ground through spring.

[26:10] I would love for myself, for our

[26:11] nonprofits and for all the other

[26:14] event holders in the town that

[26:17] there's got to be a more

[26:18] concrete date or there's got to

[26:19] be an answer somewhere.

[26:21] We keep being told that someone

[26:24] in the faa has a paper on her

[26:26] desk and that that answer is

[26:27] there but keeps getting piled

[26:29] under other more important

[26:31] things and events at the airport

[26:33] ground are just not important,

[26:35] so why figure out that date.

[26:36] Well, they are important because

[26:37] we all rely on that.

[26:39] You know, there is a ton of

[26:41] events that take place out

[26:41] there.

[26:42] I really think that someone has

[26:43] an answer.

[26:46] So can we work on getting a more

[26:46] concrete date?

[26:48] Can we house our events out at

[26:51] the airport ground through 2027

[26:54] or can we house them out there

[26:55] through 2029?

[26:56] Again, we were supposed to be

[26:58] including and introducing a half

[27:00] marathon this year, and that

[27:02] would have brought in a ton of

[27:02] revenue.

[27:04] We've been working closely with

[27:06] the gasparilla distance classic,

[27:08] if anyone is familiar with that.

[27:09] They bring in millions of

[27:10] dollars to the tampa area, and

[27:13] that was our hope for venice was

[27:15] to be a smaller version of the

[27:17] gasparilla distance classic and

[27:20] really grow that event to be a

[27:21] destination event for venice.

[27:25] So to have an answer of how long

[27:27] will we have to produce our

[27:29] events out at the airport ground

[27:31] would really help a lot of us

[27:33] event holders going forward with

[27:35] planning, but also not only

[27:36] having a date of how long we

[27:40] have to house our events out

[27:42] there, but there's a ton of

[27:42] property out there.

[27:44] Is the possibility of sharing

[27:47] that property even an option?

[27:50] Can faa keep part of it but also

[27:51] still allow the city of venice

[27:53] to have part of that property to

[27:55] continue with events?

[27:57] I mean, I'm not an architect and

[28:01] I'm not a surveyor, but having

[28:04] our events out there can

[28:05] visually see there is a ton of

[28:06] property left untouched.

[28:08] Could we please get a date and

[28:09] could we even maybe talk about

[28:12] sharing that property?

[28:12] That would be incredible.

[28:13] Thank you for your time.

[28:14] >>Mayor Pachota: thank you for

[28:15] your comments.

[28:17] MADAM Clerk, the next speaker.

[28:18] >>Kelly Michaels: the next

[28:20] speaker is bryce ferguson.

[28:28] He has five minutes.

[28:28] >>Mayor Pachota: good morning

[28:29] and welcome.

[28:30] >> good morning.

[28:32] Thank you, MR. Mayor and

[28:34] council, members of city staff.

[28:37] When I was a little boy, nine

[28:38] years old, one of the things I

[28:40] looked forward to most on

[28:41] weekends was meeting with my dad

[28:43] out at the venice airport and

[28:45] having a little cessna 172 and

[28:47] taking to the skies.

[28:48] Wasn't his plane.

[28:49] One he borrowed, rented,

[28:51] whatever the circumstances were,

[28:51] I don't know.

[28:53] I was a little kid and I got to

[28:55] go flying and I loved it.

[28:57] I would spend all week at venice

[28:58] elementary and go up in the air.

[29:00] Fly all over the area.

[29:02] Head south, go to the keys,

[29:04] north, to my grandma's house in

[29:04] lake city.

[29:06] We always had an adventure.

[29:08] This year, this spring, I took

[29:11] my dad for his final flight as

[29:12] his cremated remains were spread

[29:14] in the gulf three miles

[29:14] offshore.

[29:16] I tell you this because I want

[29:17] you to understand where I'm

[29:19] coming from, someone for whom

[29:21] this airport has always been

[29:23] very vital in my life as an

[29:23] airport.

[29:27] But when I look at the vision

[29:28] emblazoned on the back of the

[29:29] wall here in chambers, that

[29:32] airport ground is so much more

[29:34] than just aviation.

[29:35] And I understand, and this has

[29:37] been a public discourse for a

[29:39] while now, and a lot of back and

[29:41] forth and had many things to

[29:42] navigate.

[29:43] I as a member of our community

[29:45] appreciate your hard work and

[29:46] diligent effort on making sure

[29:49] we retain our vibrance and our

[29:50] historic value and understand

[29:52] that this is a historic year at

[29:54] a hundred years of being a

[29:56] municipality, the change has

[29:58] become inevitable through that

[29:58] process.

[29:59] But I am asking that you

[30:00] preserve a few of the great

[30:02] things about our community as

[30:05] you navigate all these

[30:06] complications.

[30:07] As previously mentioned, the use

[30:10] of the fairgrounds is so much

[30:11] more than a place for an event.

[30:13] These are places where annual

[30:15] events have happened over the

[30:16] years, where young people get

[30:18] volunteer hours, where

[30:19] nonprofits make enough revenue

[30:22] to continue to exist for the

[30:23] next 12 months.

[30:24] Where folks like myself take

[30:26] kids to the italian feast to

[30:27] have their first experiences of

[30:29] what a festival can be like,

[30:32] where I, as a kid, got to go

[30:34] spend mom and dad's $10 on

[30:37] tickets to ride rides and play

[30:39] carnival games, where the chalk

[30:41] festival helps local venice

[30:42] nokomis rotary raise funds for

[30:43] all of the great mission work

[30:44] they do.

[30:46] and so many other organizations.

[30:48] Public records show that between

[30:50] 80 and 100 thousand members of

[30:52] our community and surrounding

[30:54] communities participate in these

[30:56] events every year.

[30:58] Once there are unknowns,

[30:59] unknowing of the future where

[31:01] these events could be held, will

[31:02] they be held?

[31:05] Next year, three years from now?

[31:08] Whenever there is uncertainty,

[31:08] participation drops.

[31:10] People can't plan their

[31:11] vacations and travels around the

[31:13] great events if they don't know

[31:13] they'll happen.

[31:14] Clarity is kindness.

[31:16] I ask that as soon as you can,

[31:18] if we can have clarity on how we

[31:19] move forward as a community and

[31:21] hope that you will all continue

[31:23] to seek preservation of the

[31:24] grounds for the purposes that

[31:26] are much bigger than aviation

[31:28] use of the airport.

[31:29] It is publicly available that

[31:32] there are provisions within the

[31:34] faa handbook published FEBRUARY

[31:36] of this year to allow for

[31:37] community and municipal airports

[31:39] to use their spaces for

[31:40] non-aviation purposes.

[31:41] I know that you all are doing

[31:42] your due diligence.

[31:43] I appreciate it.

[31:44] Just hope that you guys can

[31:46] continue to find ways forward

[31:47] that will continue to include

[31:49] that vibrant portion of our

[31:50] community.

[31:51] Thank you for your time this

[31:51] morning.

[31:52] >>Mayor Pachota: thank you for

[31:53] your comments.

[31:54] >>Kelly Michaels: the next

[31:57] speaker is bonnie kivlan.

[32:14] She has five minutes.

[32:15] >>Mayor Pachota: good morning

[32:15] and welcome.

[32:16] >> good morning.

[32:18] Thank you for allowing me to

[32:21] speak.

[32:23] My issue is the proposal that

[32:26] was written by city manager

[32:29] clinch, and I think also airport

[32:31] director dumas.

[32:33] I'm not sure how he pronounces

[32:34] his name.

[32:35] The gentleman who preceded me,

[32:39] who was the first speaker, very

[32:41] clearly listed the reasons why

[32:44] we're having a problem with the

[32:47] proposal that was written by

[32:51] these two gentlemen.

[32:52] Interestingly, it was not

[32:54] brought up at a council meeting

[32:58] on JUNE 9, which would have at

[32:59] least given the community

[33:05] knowledge of what was going on.

[33:07] It's feeling from the

[33:08] neighborhood almost being

[33:10] totally dishonest.

[33:13] I've been involved or I've been

[33:14] active in going to the meetings

[33:15] that are talking about the

[33:18] future of the airport and

[33:19] planning for the airport.

[33:22] And each of those meetings, we

[33:25] were told that a remote tower,

[33:28] if anything, would be

[33:29] administration building, it

[33:31] would basically be technology in

[33:32] an administration building.

[33:35] This proposal is asking for a

[33:37] two-story tower, and we were

[33:41] also told that the tower was

[33:43] supposed to be mainly for

[33:45] safety, that it was not going to

[33:49] bring in increased jet activity.

[33:52] This proposal is saying that it

[33:54] is -- the building or the tower

[33:58] would be seven to eight million

[34:00] dollars or more, and it would be

[34:04] paid for by more activity from

[34:07] private jets and businesses.

[34:09] Interestingly, this proposal is

[34:12] out there right now in AUGUST,

[34:15] which you all know is before the

[34:17] snowbirds come down, the people

[34:23] who live near the airport.

[34:25] My main goal is not about just

[34:26] the people who live near the

[34:28] airport.

[34:31] I live near the airport and I

[34:34] see from NOVEMBER through MARCH,

[34:35] it's just lines of cars.

[34:36] It's about the beach.

[34:38] It's about sharky's.

[34:40] It's about our weather.

[34:43] It's about venice.

[34:47] I can't understand how more jet

[34:51] activity at the airport is going

[34:56] to benefit venice, florida.

[34:59] Let me just see if there's

[34:59] anything.

[35:01] I maybe have a minute.

[35:04] The proposal is exactly the

[35:05] opposite of what we've been told

[35:06] at the meetings.

[35:11] Exactly the opposite.

[35:13] We were told that it was for

[35:16] safety, that it would be maybe

[35:17] two years out.

[35:18] This is right now, and they have

[35:20] written it and they have done it

[35:24] at a time when nobody is here to

[35:24] notice.

[35:27] And I'm asking for this proposal

[35:29] to be withdrawn immediately

[35:32] before it gets put on a schedule

[35:34] for meetings in fall.

[35:35] Thank you.

[35:36] >>Mayor Pachota: thank you for

[35:36] your comments.

[35:38] MADAM Clerk, the next speaker.

[35:39] >>Kelly Michaels: the next

[35:43] speaker is brett spangler and he

[35:49] has five minutes.

[35:50] >>Mayor Pachota: MR. Spangler,

[35:51] good morning and welcome.

[35:52] >> good morning.

[35:53] Welcome back.

[35:58] Hope everybody had a good break.

[35:59] >>Kelly Michaels: sir, you want

[36:00] to pull up a video, is that

[36:02] correct?

[36:05] You're going to play it.

[36:06] Sit in that spot there.

[36:08] And then when you are ready, i

[36:11] will share the screen.

[36:12] >> thank you.

[36:13] In light of the deeply

[36:15] concerning faa grant proposal

[36:17] and slide deck briefing, I

[36:19] realize that nobody in

[36:21] particular is interested in

[36:23] hearing from me.

[36:25] What we all want is answers and

[36:26] accountability from you, the

[36:29] city staff and city council.

[36:32] In that same vein, I compiled

[36:34] video clips from the APRIL 8

[36:36] capital improvement plan

[36:38] workshop and the JUNE 23rd

[36:40] city council meeting regarding

[36:41] the airport.

[36:43] I want to preface that it is not

[36:45] my intent to make enemies here

[36:45] today.

[36:47] I've had the pleasure of

[36:49] speaking with many of you and my

[36:51] gut tells me that you are

[36:52] generally good people and want

[37:09] to do the right thing.

[37:11] >> video: when we say there is

[37:12] misinformation out there, every

[37:14] pr course I ever took or taught,

[37:18] if there's misinformation, it's

[37:19] your fault.

[37:22] Your job is to get out the

[37:22] correct --

[37:25] >> the city is not actively

[37:27] increasing or decreasing

[37:28] operations.

[37:30] >> the festival grounds, and

[37:33] that's actually where we're

[37:35] looking to concentrate where

[37:37] jets would be versus the rest of

[37:38] the airport.

[37:41] One of the plans that we have is

[37:42] to put in this taxiway which

[37:44] would then open that area for

[37:45] that type of development so that

[37:46] jets would be on that side of

[37:49] the airport.

[37:50] If we find the developer who is

[37:52] willing to work with us for a

[37:53] development over on that side of

[37:56] the airport, that we can give

[37:58] them rent credits if they

[38:00] provide the funding to build

[38:02] this taxiway.

[38:04] Currently, the faa and F.D.O.T.

[38:06] Will not participate in a

[38:07] project that is solely for

[38:11] economic development.

[38:12] They'll do it for safety,

[38:13] efficiency, and capacity issues,

[38:15] but they will not do it for an

[38:18] economic reason.

[38:19] Trying to put the creative hat

[38:21] on to find alternative funding.

[38:23] >> we are not actively working

[38:26] on a part 139 compliance.

[38:27] We're on the trajectory of

[38:29] becoming required by the faa to

[38:32] meet the part 139 standard.

[38:35] >> control tower for the airport

[38:37] and that's for fiscal '31.

[38:39] Any questions on the control

[38:44] tower?

[38:47] No questions on that one.

[38:49] >> there are several in

[38:50] operation across the country is

[38:52] my understanding referred to as

[38:53] remote towers.

[38:55] So it's not brick and mortar.

[38:57] They sit in a control room and

[38:58] they direct traffic no different

[39:02] than a tower, but they are not

[39:04] visible on the airport property

[39:06] in terms of brick and mortar.

[39:09] >> this is going to be a pole.

[39:11] >> but in functionality it

[39:12] performs the same function as

[39:15] having a 70-foot control tower.

[39:16] I think that's important.

[39:17] >> that's correct.

[39:20] >> none of us want to see a 75,

[39:21] 80-foot round tube sticking up

[39:23] out on the airport property.

[39:25] >> they don't generate a lot of

[39:26] capital investment revenue.

[39:28] They rely solely -- almost

[39:29] entirely on grants from the

[39:32] state and the faa.

[39:33] So expediting these projects,

[39:36] which is something that we are

[39:39] focused on, will have to happen

[39:40] through these public-private

[39:41] partnerships in order to have

[39:42] that funding available.

[39:45] The way they are programmed now

[39:46] is to make sure we get the state

[39:48] and federal funding that's

[39:48] available.

[39:51] But we are absolutely moving

[39:52] forward with the potential to

[39:53] move these projects up.

[39:54] >> they have different

[39:55] priorities in the community at

[39:56] times.

[39:57] Our priorities are always going

[40:00] to be safety first, period.

[40:01] Financial sustainability second.

[40:03] And working with the community

[40:05] is going to come third.

[40:07] It has to for the interest of

[40:09] the airport.

[40:13] >> after reviewing the faa grant

[40:14] proposal, I can't help but feel

[40:16] we are being misled about city

[40:17] staff's vision for the airport

[40:19] under the guise of promoting

[40:20] safety.

[40:22] My concern, along with hundreds

[40:24] who cannot attend today, is that

[40:25] the actual vision is to pursue

[40:28] as many government grants as

[40:30] possible, attract public-private

[40:32] partnerships to fuel further

[40:33] growth and ultimately generate

[40:36] profits to pay for all the new

[40:38] obligations we acquired with

[40:40] free faa money.

[40:42] The grant proposal and slides

[40:43] taken with the context of

[40:45] capital improvement, the master

[40:47] plan, the city council meetings,

[40:50] makes the vision abundantly

[40:51] clear.

[40:54] This council should rescind and

[40:55] postpone all grants until there

[40:57] is a vision that's voted on by

[41:00] elected officials and puts

[41:02] residents' concerns first, not

[41:04] last.

[41:05] >>Mayor Pachota: thank you for

[41:06] your comments.

[41:08] madam clerk, next speaker.

[41:09] >>Kelly Michaels: the last

[41:10] speaker is jonathan barrett.

[41:11] He has two minutes.

[41:12] >>Mayor Pachota: jonathan

[41:12] barrett.

[41:20] Two minutes.

[41:24] Good morning and welcome.

[41:25] >> good morning.

[41:27] My name is jonathan.

[41:29] This is my first time speaking

[41:30] before the council.

[41:33] I'm here because I care deeply

[41:34] about humphris park, south jetty

[41:36] and continued public access to

[41:37] our shorelines.

[41:39] I understand hurricanes helene

[41:41] and milton caused major damage.

[41:42] I understand the jetty itself is

[41:44] unsafe and I'm not asking the

[41:46] city to reopen damaged

[41:47] infrastructure before it is

[41:48] ready.

[41:49] Nearly two years later, the

[41:52] entire area remains close.

[41:53] With humphris park inaccessible,

[41:54] the next established public

[41:56] beach access south along the

[41:58] shoreline is roughly nine tenths

[41:59] of a mile.

[42:00] That means the closure affects

[42:02] much more than one damaged

[42:02] jetty.

[42:03] It removes access to a

[42:05] substantial stretch of public

[42:06] shoreline that people have used

[42:08] for generations for walking,

[42:10] fishing, surfing, biking and

[42:12] simply getting to the beach.

[42:14] We've seen elsewhere that access

[42:19] and construction can coexist,

[42:21] caspersen beach, repairs

[42:22] continued, county provided

[42:24] temporary bike racks, signage

[42:26] and defined closure.

[42:27] South jetty, controlled access

[42:28] has been possible for

[42:29] contractors and special events.

[42:31] There is historically used route

[42:34] along the gulf side of humphris

[42:36] park toward the sandy beach for

[42:37] access, and also appears to be

[42:39] an existing public access

[42:40] easement farther south that MAY

[42:41] provide another connection to

[42:42] the shoreline.

[42:44] I'm not asking council today to

[42:46] determine exactly where a fence

[42:47] should go or how the access

[42:49] should be configured.

[42:51] I'm asking to you direct staff

[42:53] to look at the existing access

[42:55] points and evaluate an

[42:56] bare-bones solution while the

[42:57] larger repairs continue.

[42:59] Instead of a completely closed

[43:00] space that has become a source

[43:01] of frustration, we have an

[43:02] opportunity to create a safe

[43:04] community driven area that

[43:06] reconnects venice with the

[43:06] shoreline.

[43:08] Humphris park is more than a

[43:08] jetty.

[43:10] Part of venice public shoreline.

[43:12] I believe we should make every

[43:13] reasonable effort to protect it.

[43:14] Thank you.

[43:14] >>Mayor Pachota: thank you for

[43:15] your comments.

[43:16] >>Kelly Michaels: that was the

[43:17] last one.

[43:18] >>Mayor Pachota: with that, we

[43:20] will move on to the consent

[43:24] section of the agenda.

[43:26] All matters listed under consent

[43:27] section are considered routine

[43:29] and enacted by one motion unless

[43:31] an item is removed by a council

[43:32] member.

[43:32] No separation discussion.

[43:34] If a discussion is desired, the

[43:35] item or items will be voted on

[43:37] at the end of the consent

[43:37] section.

[43:38] With that, any council members

[43:40] that would like to remove

[43:41] anything from consent?

[43:42] MR. Howard.

[43:44] >>Rick Howard: I would like to

[43:49] remove 26-0701.

[43:51] >>Mayor Pachota: any other items

[43:53] from any other council members?

[43:54] All right.

[43:55] With that, I will entertain a

[43:57] motion.

[43:58] >>Vice Mayor Boldt: MR. Mayor, I

[44:00] move to approve items on the

[44:01] consent section with the

[44:05] exception of 26-0701.

[44:07] >>Mayor Pachota: seconded by MR.

[44:07] Engelke.

[44:09] All in favor say aye.

[44:10] Anyone opposed?

[44:11] Passes unanimously.

[44:13] [Sounding gavel]

[44:17] We will move on to 26-0701, MR.

[44:19] Howard, you pulled this item, if

[44:20] you would like to briefly

[44:22] introduce it.

[44:23] >>Rick Howard: yeah.

[44:29] This item addresses vital, which

[44:31] I'm not opposed to, but I think

[44:32] in light of everything going on

[44:34] with the airport, we're hearing

[44:37] from residents that I think we

[44:40] need to have all hands on deck,

[44:41] and that includes our airport

[44:43] director, our city manager and

[44:45] staff and council to make sure

[44:48] that we're not getting

[44:52] distracted in focusing on

[44:53] electric flying apparatus from a

[44:55] to b.

[44:55] >>Mayor Pachota: do you have a

[44:57] motion?

[44:58] Hillsborough county hillsborough

[45:00] county I would move that we

[45:05] postpone this mou to a later

[45:12] date, and also that council be

[45:13] provided a more comprehensive

[45:15] understanding of how this would

[45:16] impact the airport itself and

[45:20] also our residents.

[45:21] >>Mayor Pachota: seconded by MR.

[45:21] Smith.

[45:23] MADAM Clerk, do you have anybody

[45:25] signed up to speak?

[45:27] >>Kelly Michaels: no.

[45:27] I don't.

[45:28] >>Mayor Pachota: then we'll move

[45:33] to council discussion.

[45:35] I've got three names on my list

[45:35] right now.

[45:36] MR. Howard, are you good?

[45:38] MR. Boldt?

[45:39] >>Vice Mayor Boldt: yes, thank

[45:41] you.

[45:44] I think I just want to put it on

[45:45] the record that I don't think

[45:47] that I can disagree with MR.

[45:48] Howard on this one.

[45:50] I think we heard enough in

[45:52] public comment already to say

[45:53] nothing of the e-mails that

[45:56] we've received that there's

[45:57] grave concern and there needs to

[45:58] be.

[46:00] So we need to keep our eye on

[46:01] the ball.

[46:03] However, having said that, I

[46:05] also believe it's really

[46:08] important as one of the major

[46:11] small airports in the area that

[46:14] we have a seat at this table

[46:15] ultimately because we don't want

[46:17] the faa coming back to us at

[46:19] some point and saying, okay,

[46:20] this is what we've decided.

[46:22] This is what it's going to be.

[46:25] I think ultimately while it is

[46:26] maybe really important to put

[46:29] this on hold for now, I do hope

[46:31] it will come back to us once

[46:32] things get cleared out a little

[46:34] bit and we have a better

[46:35] understanding, we get closer to

[46:36] the end of the year and our

[46:38] master plan being finished.

[46:40] So that we can make an

[46:41] intelligent decision as to

[46:44] whether we want a seat at this

[46:45] table or not.

[46:47] Firmly, I believe I would rather

[46:49] be at the table than away from

[46:49] the table.

[46:50] Thank you.

[46:51] >>Mayor Pachota: MR. City

[46:53] manager?

[46:54] >>James Clinch: thank you,

[46:54] mayor.

[46:56] Just wanted to kind of clarify

[46:59] what the intent of this mou is.

[47:01] So this is an emerging

[47:02] technology that is coming.

[47:04] Now, it's not coming tomorrow,

[47:06] probably, five, ten years down

[47:07] the road, but it is something

[47:10] that the faa is actively working

[47:11] on.

[47:12] What that means at some point in

[47:14] the future, the faa will be

[47:17] giving us guidance, directives,

[47:20] and eventually mandates on how

[47:21] we need to provide

[47:22] infrastructure for the

[47:22] technology.

[47:24] It is coming.

[47:27] We will be at some point in time

[47:29] mandated to participate in this

[47:32] synergistic across our state.

[47:34] So the purpose of the task force

[47:36] is to sit down with our

[47:40] colleagues at the county level,

[47:42] sarasota airport, our other

[47:43] cities and talk about the

[47:44] questions, because there are a

[47:45] lot of questions out there on

[47:47] how this would work, where the

[47:48] network would be and start

[47:50] getting answers to that

[47:50] question.

[47:52] It doesn't commit us to

[47:52] anything.

[47:53] Doesn't obligate the city to

[47:54] anything.

[47:55] It's just about getting the

[47:57] facts and researching for future

[47:58] planning purposes.

[47:59] Thank you.

[48:04] >>Mayor Pachota: MR. Smith.

[48:05] >>Ron Smith: thank you, mayor.

[48:10] I seconded this because I'm very

[48:11] disappointed.

[48:12] I thought we had the trust of

[48:14] the airport neighbors.

[48:17] Now I feel like we've lost it

[48:17] again.

[48:19] For that reason, I think we

[48:20] shouldn't have something like

[48:21] this on the consent agenda,

[48:22] which means there will be no

[48:23] discussion.

[48:25] So I'm happy for us to discuss

[48:26] it.

[48:27] I'd be happy to hear a

[48:31] presentation about it and

[48:34] perhaps it's something that we

[48:35] will wholeheartedly endorse.

[48:36] But I don't think we can afford

[48:39] to do things without being

[48:41] transparent, without having open

[48:43] discussions about them anymore

[48:44] on airport matters and the

[48:46] environment that we're in.

[48:47] So thank you.

[48:52] >>Mayor Pachota: MS. Frank.

[48:53] >>Rachel Frank: thank you.

[48:54] I agree that potentially this

[48:58] could be a great topic for the

[48:59] hopeful airport workshop that

[49:00] will be approved later on our

[49:01] agenda today.

[49:02] I do have significant concerns

[49:05] that if we do not eventually

[49:08] participate in this task force

[49:10] with the other partners in

[49:11] sarasota, manatee counties that

[49:12] we cannot advocate for the

[49:15] residents who have concerns, as

[49:17] obviously changes in the

[49:20] technology are coming down the

[49:20] pipe.

[49:21] So I would just hope that we

[49:22] would have a seat at the table.

[49:24] And I would hope we would be

[49:25] able to advocate for the

[49:25] residents.

[49:27] And when we are not able to have

[49:31] our staff on the task force to

[49:33] understand what's changing, it

[49:35] puts us at a disadvantage.

[49:36] I agree.

[49:39] As long as we can discuss this

[49:41] in the near future and hopefully

[49:43] give staff's blessing to proceed

[49:48] to be a part of this.

[49:50] >>Kevin Engelke: I agree with my

[49:50] colleagues.

[49:51] We need to have a seat at the

[49:52] table.

[49:54] This is going to be a topic of

[49:56] discussion for the next ten

[49:59] years or maybe five or maybe

[49:59] fifteen.

[50:01] I think it's important that we

[50:04] as a community are in front with

[50:06] the technology, with what could

[50:07] be impacting us.

[50:09] Right now, we have a lot of

[50:10] discussion about the airport.

[50:14] So timing-wise is probably --

[50:16] it's in between, at least for

[50:18] me.

[50:21] I do feel that we need to stay

[50:24] out in front on this, and we

[50:25] need to communicate clearly to

[50:28] everybody in this room and to

[50:29] everybody in our community and

[50:33] the surrounding environment.

[50:35] I think we need to make sure we

[50:37] do not lose this, and my

[50:40] suggestion would be perhaps

[50:47] putting it on the agenda for a

[50:48] topic of discussion shortly.

[50:49] Not within one month, two

[50:51] months, but not six years

[50:51] either.

[50:52] That's kind of where I am.

[50:54] Thanks.

[50:55] >>Mayor Pachota: MR. City

[50:57] manager, I have some questions.

[50:59] So in reviewing the memorandum,

[51:00] my understanding was this was

[51:05] just like any other -- I don't

[51:06] want to say task force because

[51:08] we don't do it very often -- but

[51:10] any other committee we would

[51:11] serve on.

[51:12] When I read the agreement, it

[51:14] said this wasn't going to be

[51:14] binding.

[51:15] It was really just to have our

[51:17] voice and a host of other cities

[51:20] participating all the way from

[51:22] bradenton beach down to city of

[51:23] north port and organizations

[51:26] that don't even have an airport.

[51:28] If you could just clarify for me

[51:30] a little bit better, is this

[51:32] simply just another committee

[51:34] like the hundreds of other

[51:35] committees we have, or is this

[51:38] going to lock us into any -- are

[51:41] we giving the faa guidance on

[51:42] what we want to see?

[51:44] Are we giving staff the ability

[51:45] to communicate for the council

[51:48] as to our wishes for the future?

[51:49] >>James Clinch: you're exactly

[51:50] right.

[51:52] This committee is really so we

[51:55] can go out and get the answers

[51:56] and get the facts on what this

[51:58] future technology is going to

[52:00] look like.

[52:02] Your opinion on the technology

[52:04] for anyone is not really

[52:05] relevant at this point in the

[52:07] game because we don't really

[52:08] even understand what this would

[52:09] mean for venice.

[52:10] This is to work with our

[52:12] partners, to get those answers

[52:13] so we can bring them back.

[52:15] Does not obligate us to any

[52:16] infrastructure.

[52:17] Doesn't obligate us to spend any

[52:19] money on future projects, but

[52:21] those future questions are going

[52:24] to come up is my message to you.

[52:25] Technology whether we

[52:26] participate in the task force or

[52:28] not is not going away.

[52:30] It's going to end up in our lap

[52:32] at some point in the future.

[52:33] My recommendation is, let's be

[52:35] as prepared as we can be when it

[52:36] does come our way.

[52:38] But happy to give a presentation

[52:39] that would make council feel

[52:41] more comfortable with the

[52:42] technology.

[52:42] >>Mayor Pachota: I just want to

[52:44] highlight concerns for my

[52:44] colleagues.

[52:45] To me, this is nothing more than

[52:47] us participating on the council

[52:48] of governments.

[52:50] The tdc, the economic

[52:51] development, all these different

[52:53] committees that we serve on

[52:55] aren't making binding decisions

[52:56] for the council.

[52:57] They are just so we have a voice

[52:58] at the table.

[53:03] I grow concern that I understand

[53:04] how cautious we need to be with

[53:05] the airport and make sure that

[53:07] we're listening to the citizens.

[53:08] I'm just concerned that we're

[53:10] tying two items together that

[53:12] don't necessarily relate to each

[53:13] other.

[53:14] Since I've been on council,

[53:15] we've been talking about seeking

[53:17] grant funding for the tower and

[53:20] I remember, I think it was after

[53:23] covid maybe 2022-ish that we had

[53:25] discussion about pursuing grant

[53:25] funding.

[53:27] It's not something new that just

[53:28] came up yesterday.

[53:30] I don't even see this as an item

[53:32] that relates to that.

[53:33] I'm just concerned that we're

[53:35] going to be lumping everything

[53:37] airport into one silo and lose a

[53:38] seat at the table.

[53:39] That's just my only concern is I

[53:41] don't want us to be absent from

[53:44] any discussions that MAY impact

[53:46] us.

[53:49] MR. Howard.

[53:49] >>Rick Howard: thanks, mayor.

[53:51] I appreciate the comments that

[53:52] my colleagues have made.

[53:55] Trust me, I don't have anything

[53:58] against vitol.

[53:59] It's the future.

[54:00] Kind of star wars if you want to

[54:01] think about it that way.

[54:03] It is a very quiet delivery

[54:03] system.

[54:04] These are electric.

[54:07] I think the ultimate goal will

[54:09] be unmanned so there's no pilot

[54:11] in these things.

[54:12] And they fly from point a to

[54:16] point b with people or products.

[54:18] it takes congestion off the

[54:20] roads.

[54:22] They are relatively quiet.

[54:24] Some are like weed whackers.

[54:27] If you ever heard drones flying

[54:28] around, picture this thing as a

[54:30] big drone.

[54:35] So I'm not opposed to VITOLs

[54:37] and definitely not opposed to

[54:39] having a seat at the table.

[54:41] My focus is more on where the

[54:43] focus is at the airport right

[54:46] now.

[54:49] I want nick and staff to be

[54:52] focused on what my colleague

[54:53] said.

[54:54] It feels like we've lost trust

[54:55] of the community again.

[54:57] And we work really hard.

[54:58] I think it was a great

[54:59] presentation that was given

[55:01] before we went on break, and I

[55:03] think everybody was embracing

[55:05] that.

[55:07] Yeah, our e-mails are blowing

[55:08] up.

[55:10] I read every single one of them.

[55:12] I've spoken to many of our

[55:12] residents.

[55:16] Some are here in the audience

[55:16] today.

[55:19] I think I'm speaking for the

[55:20] entire council and staff.

[55:21] We want to do what's right for

[55:25] the residents and for the

[55:25] airport.

[55:27] There's just a lot of moving

[55:27] parts.

[55:29] I want the focus to be on what's

[55:31] at hand, what's on deck today.

[55:34] I don't want our airport

[55:36] director going to a meeting

[55:38] about a vitol right now.

[55:40] We have bigger fish to fry that

[55:42] we should be focused on, in my

[55:42] opinion.

[55:43] Thank you, mayor.

[55:44] >>Mayor Pachota: okay.

[55:45] With that, MADAM Clerk, if

[55:47] you'll ready us for an

[55:48] electronic vote.

[55:49] Council members, when your

[55:51] lights are flashing, you can

[55:55] indicate your vote.

[55:57] MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

[56:02] display the vote.

[56:04] It passes 5-2.

[56:05] [Sounding gavel]

[56:07] With that we will take a

[56:08] 15-minute and come back at

[56:10] 10:20.

[56:11] [Recess]

[56:32] [Sounding gavel]

[56:33] >>Mayor Pachota: okay.

[56:34] We are back.

[56:37] We are on to public hearings,

[56:38] unfinished business.

[56:39] MADAM Attorney, I believe you

[56:42] have an update for us on this

[56:42] one.

[56:43] >>Kelly m. Fernandez: yes.

[56:44] Yesterday afternoon we received

[56:46] a request from the applicant

[56:47] that the hearing not be held.

[56:49] They would like to revise their

[56:51] application to resolve some of

[56:53] the issues that were brought

[56:54] forward by the appellant.

[56:56] So they are asking that we have

[56:59] this remanded back to staff.

[57:01] >>Mayor Pachota: okay.

[57:02] >>Kelly m. Fernandez: I should

[57:05] also add, I'm sorry, that the

[57:07] appellant is aware of this and

[57:09] staff is aware of this as well

[57:11] and no one has an issue with

[57:11] that outcome.

[57:12] >>Mayor Pachota: with that, I'll

[57:14] move to vacate planning

[57:17] commission order and remand

[57:21] petition 25-40sp back to staff

[57:22] for amendment and further

[57:26] review.

[57:28] Sorry, 26 --- do I have the

[57:32] number right, MADAM Attorney?

[57:36] 25-40sp is the actual

[57:37] application number.

[57:38] >>Mayor Pachota: 25-40sp.

[57:40] Seconded by vice mayor boldt.

[57:42] MADAM Clerk, do you have anybody

[57:43] signed up to speak in.

[57:44] >>Kelly Michaels: no, I don't.

[57:45] >>Mayor Pachota: any council

[57:49] discussion?

[57:50] Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if

[57:51] you'll ready us for an

[57:53] electronic vote.

[57:54] Council members, when your

[57:55] lights are flashing, you can

[58:00] indicate your vote.

[58:02] Go ahead and tally and display

[58:03] the vote.

[58:04] Passes unanimously.

[58:05] [Sounding gavel]

[58:07] I'll just remind the audience

[58:08] that we can hear everything

[58:10] you're saying up here, including

[58:11] curse words.

[58:13] So please be respectful in the

[58:13] audience.

[58:14] If you're having an issue with

[58:16] the speaker system, get with the

[58:18] clerk's office so we can get you

[58:19] a part of the loop recording

[58:25] system and a speaker box.

[58:30] Do you have a point of order?

[58:33] >> I'd like to restate my vote

[58:36] on our last, my own motion,

[58:39] which I voted on incorrectly.

[58:40] >>Mayor Pachota: so we're back

[58:43] to 26-0701.

[58:43] >> that's correct.

[58:44] >>Mayor Pachota: MADAM Attorney,

[58:47] how would we remedy his wish to

[58:48] restate his vote?

[58:49] >>Kelly m. Fernandez: I actually

[58:51] need to look up robert's rules

[58:53] of order on that to tell you the

[58:54] proper procedure.

[58:55] >>Mayor Pachota: we'll take a

[58:56] five-minute break.

[58:58] We'll be back at 28 after.

[59:09] [Sounding gavel]

[59:11] >>Mayor Pachota: okay.

[59:15] We are back, and MR. Howard has

[59:17] a motion, or you can make a

[59:22] motion, to amend your vote on

[59:22] 26-0701.

[59:24] If you want to make that motion.

[59:25] >>Kelly m. Fernandez: he doesn't

[59:26] have to make a motion.

[59:27] It's really a request.

[59:29] I believe you voted -- you voted

[59:31] no and you intended to vote yes.

[59:32] Is that the situation?

[59:33] So that's his request.

[59:35] If there's no objection from

[59:37] anyone else on council, then his

[59:41] vote can stand as adjusted to

[59:42] the yes versus no.

[59:44] >>Mayor Pachota: any members of

[59:45] council object to MR. Howard's

[59:50] request?

[59:51] Seeing none, let the record

[59:52] reflect that MR. Howard is

[59:54] voting in favor of the motion,

[59:59] so it is a 6-1.

[1:00:00] >>Rick Howard: I would like to

[1:00:01] apologize to everyone in the

[1:00:03] chambers and everyone listening.

[1:00:07] Sometimes passion creates

[1:00:09] freudian slips and I just had

[1:00:09] one.

[1:00:12] >>Mayor Pachota: moving on now,

[1:00:14] we will go to ordinances final

[1:00:18] reading, ordinance number

[1:00:18] 2026-22.

[1:00:20] The public hearing is now open.

[1:00:23] [Sounding gavel]

[1:00:25] MADAM Clerk, when you're ready,

[1:00:27] if you can go ahead and read

[1:00:29] this by title only, please.

[1:00:30] >>Kelly Michaels: an ordinance

[1:00:31] of the city of venice, florida,

[1:00:33] amending the code of ordinances,

[1:00:34] chapter 87, land development

[1:00:36] code, by amending section 2.4.3,

[1:00:40] residential uses, adding section

[1:00:41] 6.11, certified recovery

[1:00:43] residences, and amending section

[1:00:46] 9.1, defined terms, pursuant to

[1:00:50] text amendment petition 26-22am

[1:00:52] to establish procedures for the

[1:00:55] review and approval of recovery

[1:00:58] residences and a process for

[1:00:59] requests for reasonable

[1:01:01] accommodations from land use

[1:01:02] regulations; providing for

[1:01:03] repeal of all ordinances in

[1:01:05] conflict herewith, providing for

[1:01:06] severability, and providing an

[1:01:08] effective date.

[1:01:09] >>Mayor Pachota: do we have any

[1:01:10] written communication since the

[1:01:12] last hearing?

[1:01:13] >>Kelly Michaels: no.

[1:01:14] >>Mayor Pachota: all right.

[1:01:15] Is there an update from staff

[1:01:20] since the last hearing?

[1:01:20] >> [Inaudible]

[1:01:21] >>Mayor Pachota: okay.

[1:01:23] MADAM Clerk, anybody signed up

[1:01:24] to speak?

[1:01:25] >>Kelly Michaels: no.

[1:01:26] >>Mayor Pachota: the public

[1:01:27] hearing is now closed.

[1:01:28] [Sounding gavel]

[1:01:31] I'll entertain a motion.

[1:01:33] >>Vice Mayor Boldt: I move that

[1:01:34] ordinance 2026-22 be approved

[1:01:36] and adopted.

[1:01:38] >>Mayor Pachota: seconded by MR.

[1:01:38] Engelke.

[1:01:41] Any council discussion?

[1:01:42] Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if

[1:01:43] you'll ready us for an

[1:01:44] electronic vote.

[1:01:45] Council members, when your

[1:01:46] lights are flashing, you can

[1:01:50] indicate your vote.

[1:01:53] MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

[1:01:54] display the vote.

[1:01:55] Passes unanimously.

[1:01:59] [Sounding gavel]

[1:02:04] We will move on to ordinance

[1:02:04] 2026-23.

[1:02:06] The public hearing is now open.

[1:02:06] [Sounding gavel]

[1:02:07] MADAM Clerk, when you're ready,

[1:02:08] you can go ahead and read this

[1:02:10] ordinance by title only.

[1:02:11] >>Kelly Michaels: an ordinance

[1:02:12] of the city of venice, florida,

[1:02:14] amending the code of ordinances

[1:02:16] chapter 87, land development

[1:02:18] code by amending section 1.9.3

[1:02:19] specific application

[1:02:20] requirements, amending and

[1:02:23] renumbering section 1.10,

[1:02:26] preliminary plat (Quasi-judicial

[1:02:29] application), amending section

[1:02:31] 3.1.1, building height, section

[1:02:33] 3.1.2, block configuration

[1:02:36] requirements, section 3.1.4

[1:02:41] building placement requirements,

[1:02:43] 3.1.9 accessory uses and

[1:02:46] structures, section 3.5.2 exempt

[1:02:51] signs, section 3.6.1 off-street

[1:02:55] parking, tables 3.6.1 and 3.6.6

[1:02:58] parking requirements by use,

[1:03:01] section 3.6.5 design standards,

[1:03:03] section 3.8.1 purpose and

[1:03:05] applicability, section 3.8.3,

[1:03:11] fences and walls material and

[1:03:13] design standards, section 3.8.4,

[1:03:18] height of fences and walls,

[1:03:19] section 7.8.1, certificate of

[1:03:21] architectural compliance.

[1:03:23] Section 7.10.9 fences and walls

[1:03:26] and section 9.1 defined terms,

[1:03:28] pursuant to text amendment

[1:03:30] petition 25-12am to resolve

[1:03:32] issues discovered through the

[1:03:34] implementation of the land

[1:03:35] development code, providing for

[1:03:37] repeal of all ordinances in

[1:03:39] conflict herewith, providing for

[1:03:40] severability, and providing an

[1:03:43] effective date.

[1:03:43] >>Mayor Pachota: MADAM Clerk,

[1:03:45] have we received any written

[1:03:47] communication since last

[1:03:48] hearing?

[1:03:48] >>Kelly Michaels: none.

[1:03:49] >>Mayor Pachota: do we have a

[1:03:50] staff update on this one?

[1:03:51] >>James Clinch: no, sir, unless

[1:03:52] there are any questions.

[1:03:54] >>Mayor Pachota: I actually do

[1:03:57] have some questions, specific to

[1:03:59] the signage, temporary signs and

[1:04:07] such.

[1:04:08] >> good morning.

[1:04:11] For the record, nicole tremblay,

[1:04:13] senior planner for the city of

[1:04:13] venice.

[1:04:14] What questions do you have?

[1:04:15] >>Mayor Pachota: I was waiting

[1:04:17] for the introduction.

[1:04:19] I received some feedback as it

[1:04:20] relates to, sounds like it is

[1:04:22] political sign related, we're in

[1:04:24] political season so it makes

[1:04:27] sense, that our code is more

[1:04:31] strict than sarasota county and

[1:04:31] manatee county.

[1:04:32] I'm curious.

[1:04:34] It sounds like we have a square

[1:04:36] footage based on the size of the

[1:04:38] building and some things that

[1:04:41] make it a little bit

[1:04:41] complicated.

[1:04:42] I wanted to see if we could

[1:04:44] discuss that and if there's any

[1:04:46] merit to the idea of being a

[1:04:49] little closer to the county code

[1:04:51] so as to avoid confusion during

[1:04:52] this time.

[1:04:55] One of the big reasons that --

[1:04:57] I'll say this carefully -- one

[1:05:00] of the reasons that we went

[1:05:01] along with the voter referendum

[1:05:03] and kind of changed our terms

[1:05:06] and when they coincide, it was a

[1:05:07] lower-hanging fruit but it was

[1:05:10] because we go through this every

[1:05:11] year where there are political

[1:05:12] signs all over town.

[1:05:13] It was going to be nice to have

[1:05:14] a little time off.

[1:05:17] At the same time, I don't want

[1:05:18] to reduce anybody's freedom or

[1:05:21] ability to properly advertise

[1:05:23] their campaign so that we're

[1:05:26] being more strict than somebody

[1:05:26] else.

[1:05:28] >>Nicole Tremblay: okay.

[1:05:30] I don't know the county's code

[1:05:32] off the top of my head.

[1:05:33] But the sign standards related

[1:05:35] to the size of the building and

[1:05:36] things like that are for

[1:05:37] permanent signs.

[1:05:42] So a temporary sign, now, they

[1:05:44] are not explicitly political

[1:05:47] because we're not able to

[1:05:49] determine the content that way.

[1:05:53] But the temporary signs, it says

[1:05:56] MAY not exceed three square feet

[1:05:59] for residential property or --

[1:06:02] you know what, I apologize.

[1:06:04] Put it at a nonresidential

[1:06:05] property, you do have one square

[1:06:07] foot per linear foot of

[1:06:07] building.

[1:06:08] We typically see them in

[1:06:09] residential.

[1:06:10] I apologize.

[1:06:11] Can I look up the county's code

[1:06:17] and bring it back.

[1:06:18] Either later today or at the

[1:06:19] next meeting.

[1:06:20] >>Mayor Pachota: I would ask

[1:06:22] you, is it better for us

[1:06:23] procedurally to get through,

[1:06:23] because there are a lot of

[1:06:25] things on this that I would like

[1:06:26] to see us get through.

[1:06:28] Perhaps I put this on the agenda

[1:06:29] to readdress the specific item

[1:06:30] at another meeting.

[1:06:31] >>Nicole Tremblay: that would be

[1:06:33] fine with me if we want to pull

[1:06:34] just this item and talk about it

[1:06:35] again later.

[1:06:35] >>Mayor Pachota: I'm okay with

[1:06:36] doing that.

[1:06:38] I'll put it on a future agenda.

[1:06:40] I just wanted to make sure that,

[1:06:41] you know, I don't want to stop

[1:06:42] the train on some of these other

[1:06:44] things that are pretty common

[1:06:44] sense.

[1:06:46] On this particular one, I have

[1:06:48] received feedback and I want to

[1:06:49] make sure that we at least

[1:06:51] address the feedback in a proper

[1:06:53] way, whether, it's, no, we like

[1:06:54] being more strict or whether we

[1:06:56] want to come in line with the

[1:06:58] county's code, whatever it might

[1:06:59] be, I want to make sure we do

[1:07:00] that properly and give the

[1:07:01] residents an opportunity to

[1:07:04] speak to it.

[1:07:04] >>Nicole Tremblay: that is fine

[1:07:06] with me.

[1:07:08] >>Roger Clark: roger clark,

[1:07:09] planning and zoning director.

[1:07:10] I want to make sure i

[1:07:11] understand.

[1:07:12] You're going to pull this

[1:07:13] individual amendment and let the

[1:07:16] other ones be approved?

[1:07:18] If that's your plan, I have a

[1:07:19] little issue with that because

[1:07:22] that's going to eliminate the 90

[1:07:23] days that this is changing to,

[1:07:25] which I know is something that

[1:07:26] was originally requested.

[1:07:28] >>Mayor Pachota: so my plan was

[1:07:30] actually to let this go the way

[1:07:33] it is, and then just kind of put

[1:07:35] you on notice gently that I'm

[1:07:38] going to bring this back at

[1:07:39] another agenda so we can talk

[1:07:41] about finite details of that

[1:07:42] specific piece of the code and

[1:07:43] make some changes to that.

[1:07:45] I don't want to delay the

[1:07:45] process.

[1:07:47] I don't see the need since we're

[1:07:49] on our second hearing and kind

[1:07:50] of at the finish line.

[1:07:52] I do want to readdress this

[1:07:54] since it's now been brought up.

[1:07:56] I'll put it on the next agenda

[1:07:57] and we can isolate that

[1:07:57] particular item.

[1:07:59] As far as today, I would like to

[1:08:02] move forward as is with all of

[1:08:04] us on the same page now, that I

[1:08:06] have had some conversation, and

[1:08:08] we do need to look at it a

[1:08:09] little tighter.

[1:08:10] >>Roger Clark: I understand.

[1:08:11] I don't want to lose that 90

[1:08:13] days we put in place.

[1:08:13] >>Mayor Pachota: I don't want to

[1:08:14] stop the train.

[1:08:15] I want to make sure I'm on the

[1:08:17] record for saying I received

[1:08:18] some feedback and I think we

[1:08:20] need to address it at a later

[1:08:21] date.

[1:08:21] >>Nicole Tremblay: thank you.

[1:08:22] >>Roger Clark: thank you.

[1:08:23] >>Mayor Pachota: okay.

[1:08:25] With that, anyone else have any

[1:08:29] questions of staff? Okay.

[1:08:30] madam clerk, do you have anybody

[1:08:32] signed up to speak?

[1:08:32] >>Kelly Michaels: no.

[1:08:33] >>Mayor Pachota: with that,

[1:08:34] we'll close the public hearing.

[1:08:36] I'll go ahead and move that

[1:08:38] ordinance 2026-23 be approved

[1:08:39] and adopted.

[1:08:42] Seconded by MR. Howard.

[1:08:45] Any council discussion?

[1:08:46] Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if

[1:08:48] you'll make us ready for an

[1:08:48] electronic vote.

[1:08:49] Council members, when your

[1:08:51] lights are flashing, you can

[1:08:53] indicate your vote.

[1:08:55] MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

[1:08:56] display the vote.

[1:08:57] Passes unanimously.

[1:09:06] [Sounding gavel]

[1:09:06] Okay.

[1:09:09] We are now on to new business

[1:09:10] ordinances.

[1:09:12] Ordinance 2026-24.

[1:09:14] MADAM Clerk, when you are ready,

[1:09:15] you can go ahead and read this

[1:09:16] ordinance by title only, please.

[1:09:18] >>Kelly Michaels: an ordinance

[1:09:19] amending city of venice

[1:09:22] ordinance number 2025-32 as

[1:09:23] previously amended which adopted

[1:09:24] the official budget of the city

[1:09:25] of venice, florida, for the

[1:09:27] fiscal year beginning OCTOBER 1,

[1:09:30] 2025, and ending SEPTEMBER 30,

[1:09:32] 2026, by increasing the total

[1:09:36] revenue by 6,476,400 and total

[1:09:41] expenditures by 6,476,400, and

[1:09:43] providing an effective date.

[1:09:44] >>Mayor Pachota: MADAM Clerk, do

[1:09:46] you have anybody signed up to

[1:09:46] speak?

[1:09:47] >>Kelly Michaels: no.

[1:09:48] >>Mayor Pachota: with that, I'll

[1:09:51] entertain a motion.

[1:09:52] >>Kevin Engelke: I move to

[1:09:54] approve ordinance 2026-24 on

[1:09:56] first reading and schedule it

[1:09:58] for final reading.

[1:09:59] >>Mayor Pachota: seconded by

[1:10:00] vice mayor boldt.

[1:10:02] Any council discussion?

[1:10:03] Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if

[1:10:05] you'll make us ready for an

[1:10:06] electronic vote.

[1:10:06] Council members when your lights

[1:10:09] are flashing, you MAY indicate

[1:10:10] your vote.

[1:10:12] MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

[1:10:13] display the vote.

[1:10:14] Passes unanimously.

[1:10:22] [Sounding gavel]

[1:10:22] All right.

[1:10:24] We are on to resolutions,

[1:10:29] resolution number 2026-15.

[1:10:31] MADAM Clerk, when you're ready,

[1:10:32] you can go ahead and read this

[1:10:34] resolution by title only,

[1:10:34] please.

[1:10:35] >>Kelly Michaels: a resolution

[1:10:36] of the city of venice, florida,

[1:10:38] accepting utilities and

[1:10:40] improvements installed by

[1:10:41] southwest florida retirement

[1:10:43] center inc. And accepting a

[1:10:44] one-year developers maintenance

[1:10:46] bond and bill of sale, providing

[1:10:47] an effective date.

[1:10:48] >>Mayor Pachota: MADAM Clerk, do

[1:10:49] you have anybody signed up to

[1:10:50] speak?

[1:10:50] >>Kelly Michaels: no.

[1:10:51] >>Mayor Pachota: all right.

[1:10:53] Then with that, I'll entertain a

[1:10:55] motion.

[1:10:56] MR. Vice mayor.

[1:10:58] >>Vice Mayor Boldt: I move

[1:10:59] resolution 2026-15 be approved

[1:11:03] and adopted.

[1:11:04] >>Mayor Pachota: seconded by

[1:11:07] MS. Frank.

[1:11:09] Any council discussion?

[1:11:10] Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if

[1:11:11] you'll ready us for an

[1:11:12] electronic vote.

[1:11:13] Council members, when your

[1:11:15] lights are flashing, you can

[1:11:17] indicate your vote.

[1:11:19] MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

[1:11:21] display the vote.

[1:11:22] passes unanimously.

[1:11:26] [Sounding gavel]

[1:11:28] We are now on to presentations.

[1:11:32] Presentation 26-0702, and this

[1:11:33] is finance director linda senne

[1:11:36] with the quarterly financial

[1:11:37] update.

[1:11:38] MS. Senne, if you would like to

[1:12:02] come down.

[1:12:21] >>Linda Senne: good morning,

[1:12:21] mayor and council.

[1:12:22] Linda senne.

[1:12:23] Finance director.

[1:12:26] This is the quarterly financial

[1:12:28] report as of JUNE 30, so nine

[1:12:33] months into fiscal year '26.

[1:12:35] As of today, number one on

[1:12:36] there, the property tax revenue.

[1:12:39] We collected 100% of our budget

[1:12:41] amount at this point in time,

[1:12:43] which is -- we always generally

[1:12:45] collect our money by JUNE 30 for

[1:12:46] the property taxes for the

[1:12:47] fiscal year.

[1:12:50] The fire and insurance premium

[1:12:53] tax, which is the number 2, is

[1:12:54] as of now zero.

[1:12:55] We generally get that money in

[1:12:57] AUGUST or later in SEPTEMBER.

[1:13:02] So that shows zero collections.

[1:13:04] Our communication taxes is

[1:13:05] slightly above.

[1:13:07] 74 -- slightly below at 74

[1:13:07] percent.

[1:13:09] At this point in time, we should

[1:13:10] be at 75 percent.

[1:13:13] That's just slightly below.

[1:13:15] The utility service tax is

[1:13:16] slightly -- that's the one that

[1:13:18] is above at 82%.

[1:13:20] That's the number four.

[1:13:23] 82% at this point in time.

[1:13:25] The franchise fees are at 81%,

[1:13:31] which is the number 5.

[1:13:36] Licenses and permits are below

[1:13:36] target.

[1:13:43] They are at 239,000 -- 239,625.

[1:13:45] The majority is business tax

[1:13:48] receipts, makes up 29805.

[1:13:49] Majority of those licenses come

[1:13:50] in AUGUST and SEPTEMBER.

[1:13:51] That's again where we get the

[1:13:54] money in AUGUST and SEPTEMBER

[1:13:55] for business tax receipts, and

[1:13:57] then the other bigger part is

[1:13:59] the zoning and permit

[1:14:03] certifications which makes up

[1:14:07] 168,048 at this point in time.

[1:14:08] 7, the investment income.

[1:14:12] We are higher above than what we

[1:14:13] -- sorry.

[1:14:16] The 7 is the intergovernmental

[1:14:17] revenues.

[1:14:19] And the city received for the

[1:14:24] first year $265,000 under an ice

[1:14:25] agreement that we have.

[1:14:28] We also received $298,000 from

[1:14:31] fema as reimbursements that are

[1:14:33] due to hurricane ian and milton.

[1:14:34] Some of those are way back from

[1:14:35] hurricane ian.

[1:14:36] So that goes to show you how

[1:14:38] long it takes sometimes to get

[1:14:41] our money reimbursed from fema.

[1:14:44] And then also state revenue

[1:14:46] sharing is on target, slightly

[1:14:50] above at 76%, and the government

[1:14:51] half-cent sales tax is right on

[1:14:52] target at 75%.

[1:14:55] And those are all the number

[1:14:57] sevens that you see in red.

[1:15:00] And then for charges for

[1:15:01] services, they are slightly

[1:15:05] below target at 74%, and the ems

[1:15:08] transport fees are right at 74%

[1:15:16] also.

[1:15:18] Number 9 is the investment

[1:15:19] earnings.

[1:15:20] So we are above target at this

[1:15:21] point in time.

[1:15:22] We collected more than what we

[1:15:27] have budgeted for this.

[1:15:29] We budgeted, so we're above that

[1:15:30] dollar amount by hundred

[1:15:32] percent.

[1:15:34] For miscellaneous revenues for

[1:15:36] the first nine months we're

[1:15:37] already above the budgeted

[1:15:39] amount for the entire year.

[1:15:41] The second quarter, which was in

[1:15:43] the MARCH quarter is when we

[1:15:44] received the contribution from

[1:15:47] the venice pier group and then

[1:15:48] also our other miscellaneous

[1:15:50] revenue includes a bank rebate

[1:15:53] of almost $67,000 that we get

[1:15:54] for the city using the

[1:15:55] purchasing card.

[1:15:57] We get a rebate back from the

[1:15:59] bank when we use our p-card.

[1:16:03] Also, we had $87,000 of

[1:16:04] insurance settlements this year

[1:16:06] so far.

[1:16:11] General fund expenses, they are

[1:16:12] projected at where we expect

[1:16:15] them to be at this point in

[1:16:15] time.

[1:16:16] They are tracking well.

[1:16:17] There's only one department.

[1:16:19] That's the one we have in pink,

[1:16:22] which that was also noted on the

[1:16:22] last quarterly report that

[1:16:24] exceeds the 75% target.

[1:16:26] That's due to the $5 million

[1:16:28] that we paid to sarasota county

[1:16:31] for the wellfield park.

[1:16:34] I'll go back to this page, the

[1:16:35] ending fund balance of SEPTEMBER

[1:16:39] 30 of '25 was 35.3 million.

[1:16:43] That's this number right here.

[1:16:46] That was SEPTEMBER 30 of '25,

[1:16:48] and we had project rollover of

[1:16:48] 2.1.

[1:16:51] So at the end of fiscal '26,

[1:16:54] we're expecting that the fund

[1:16:56] balance will be up to 29

[1:16:58] million.

[1:16:59] And then I'm just going to make

[1:17:01] a note, when you see the

[1:17:04] proposed budget of that net

[1:17:05] revenues, on the far right

[1:17:06] column, the negative 800,000,

[1:17:08] that's what we had at the

[1:17:09] proposed budget when we did the

[1:17:12] proposed budget, that was for

[1:17:13] the $800,000 transfer into the

[1:17:16] new fleet and operating fund

[1:17:17] we're going to make.

[1:17:19] When I'm talking this afternoon

[1:17:21] or the next part when I talk

[1:17:22] about the changes since then,

[1:17:24] this is the number that slightly

[1:17:26] changes, just so you're aware.

[1:17:28] You won't see this whole thing,

[1:17:29] unless you want me to bring it

[1:17:31] back up again when I go over the

[1:17:32] changes for the proposed budget

[1:17:34] that's later on the agenda.

[1:17:35] The $800,000 number is the final

[1:17:37] number that changes.

[1:17:38] When I'm talking about the

[1:17:39] change, that will be the change.

[1:17:41] When you see the net revenues

[1:17:42] number, it's slightly different

[1:17:45] than the $800,000 now for the

[1:17:49] fiscal '27 proposed budget.

[1:17:52] Any questions to date on the

[1:17:53] general fund?

[1:17:57] >>Mayor Pachota: MR. Smith.

[1:18:00] >>Ron Smith: thank you, mayor.

[1:18:01] Thank you for that report.

[1:18:04] It's a lot to take in, and I

[1:18:06] look forward to the discussion

[1:18:08] later, what's changed with the

[1:18:09] funding of these positions that

[1:18:12] we wanted to add.

[1:18:14] But my question is something

[1:18:17] I've asked before about the fema

[1:18:17] money.

[1:18:20] You say more came in.

[1:18:21] If I understand correctly,

[1:18:23] there's still a whole bunch more

[1:18:24] we're hoping to get.

[1:18:26] Could you talk about that?

[1:18:28] I think in the next budget we

[1:18:31] didn't show any revenue from

[1:18:32] fema because we can't be sure

[1:18:34] it's coming, but you told me

[1:18:36] there was a big number we're

[1:18:37] hoping to get.

[1:18:39] Was this another number, the

[1:18:41] money we just got from fema, is

[1:18:42] that something that we didn't

[1:18:44] budget this year?

[1:18:45] >>Linda Senne: correct.

[1:18:46] It was not budgeted.

[1:18:47] We don't generally budget

[1:18:49] because we're not sure if we get

[1:18:50] any money.

[1:18:53] We submit projects, and then

[1:18:56] they, like with the ian project,

[1:18:57] three years ago.

[1:18:59] So then they determine whether

[1:19:00] they are going to fund the

[1:19:02] project or not.

[1:19:04] So we don't budget generally for

[1:19:05] that revenue.

[1:19:06] Not sure if we're going to

[1:19:08] actually get reimbursed for it.

[1:19:10] >>Ron Smith: right, the money we

[1:19:12] did just get, it wasn't budgeted

[1:19:13] and it changes how much we need

[1:19:16] to find in the budget to fund

[1:19:17] these changes we wanted to make,

[1:19:18] is that correct?

[1:19:19] >>Linda Senne: well, that

[1:19:21] increases the bottom line when I

[1:19:23] say the estimated dollar amount.

[1:19:25] Because when we did the report

[1:19:29] in MARCH, I estimated that the

[1:19:31] fund balance would be 28.4

[1:19:32] million.

[1:19:34] Now I'm estimating it will be 29

[1:19:35] million.

[1:19:36] Because we have the revenue

[1:19:37] increase --

[1:19:38] >>Ron Smith: rolling that money

[1:19:40] over into the reserve.

[1:19:40] >>Linda Senne: correct.

[1:19:41] >>Ron Smith: rather than using

[1:19:42] it for.

[1:19:44] >>Linda Senne: correct, correct.

[1:19:47] So it increases your ending

[1:19:48] savings reserve amount.

[1:19:50] Because when I did the -- when I

[1:19:52] did this in MARCH, my estimate

[1:19:55] at that time was 28.4 million.

[1:19:58] Now the estimate is going to be

[1:20:00] 29.1 million.

[1:20:01] >>Ron Smith: just banking it is

[1:20:03] what you're telling me.

[1:20:05] >>Linda Senne: correct.

[1:20:07] >>Ron Smith: could you tell me

[1:20:08] again at this point since that

[1:20:10] now changed, how much money

[1:20:11] we're hoping to get still from

[1:20:14] fema, even though we have no

[1:20:15] guarantees we're in the process

[1:20:17] of trying to get repaid for work

[1:20:17] we did.

[1:20:19] >>Linda Senne: we got reimbursed

[1:20:21] for all the -- which went into

[1:20:22] the solid waste fund for the

[1:20:23] debris.

[1:20:24] We got reimbursed for debris.

[1:20:28] That's all done for ian and for

[1:20:29] milton and for helene.

[1:20:31] All that money reimbursed.

[1:20:32] But that went into the solid

[1:20:33] waste fund because the expenses

[1:20:35] came out of the solid waste

[1:20:38] fund, picking up the debris.

[1:20:41] Maybe another one to two million

[1:20:44] max, but it doesn't all go in

[1:20:45] the general fund.

[1:20:46] Some of it is utilities fund and

[1:20:49] some could be stormwater fund.

[1:20:50] Probably one to two million,

[1:20:52] maybe, at the high end.

[1:20:53] >>Ron Smith: thank you.

[1:20:56] >>Mayor Pachota: MS. Frank.

[1:20:57] >>Rachel Frank: thank you.

[1:20:59] Could you expound a little bit

[1:21:03] on the stormwater fund 480,

[1:21:06] particularly because I believe

[1:21:07] it's healthy reserve, according

[1:21:09] to your memo here, on page 6, it

[1:21:12] talks about the non-earmarked

[1:21:13] working capital balance dropping

[1:21:14] to 5.2 million.

[1:21:16] But you say it's still well

[1:21:17] above target levels.

[1:21:19] Just because I believe it

[1:21:22] potentially could be germane to

[1:21:23] our conversation later about

[1:21:25] curry creek, deer town gully,

[1:21:27] update on all of those efforts.

[1:21:30] I just want to fully understand

[1:21:32] where our stormwater fund is at

[1:21:35] and maybe what you mean about

[1:21:39] well above target levels.

[1:21:40] >>Linda Senne: let me pull that

[1:21:41] fund up.

[1:21:43] Stormwater.

[1:21:47] Stormwater, they have had --

[1:21:48] because they are in the middle

[1:21:50] of some of the projects that

[1:21:52] aren't encumbered yet, but they

[1:21:52] have some projects that they are

[1:21:56] working on, but when you look at

[1:21:58] this part right up here, when

[1:22:01] you see expenses to date for

[1:22:04] some of these projects, there is

[1:22:10] no money yet spent to date for

[1:22:11] some of the stormwater projects.

[1:22:13] So at the end, when you look at

[1:22:16] the overall fund, when we say

[1:22:19] it's above target because we

[1:22:20] estimate -- they are estimating

[1:22:22] at the end of fiscal '26 what

[1:22:25] we're expecting, that the

[1:22:27] working capital would be we have

[1:22:29] 5.2 total expenses and then with

[1:22:32] an estimate of 2.9 million that

[1:22:35] would be basically in reserves

[1:22:37] that they could use for other

[1:22:37] projects.

[1:22:40] That's what we're expecting at

[1:22:42] the end of SEPTEMBER.

[1:22:42] >>Rachel Frank: okay.

[1:22:45] In the memo it says 2.9 million

[1:22:47] is earmarked for water quality

[1:22:47] projects.

[1:22:49] You're saying separate than that

[1:22:51] earmark you believe --

[1:22:52] >>Linda Senne: I say earmarked

[1:22:53] for water quality because

[1:22:54] everything in the stormwater has

[1:22:56] to go to stormwater projects.

[1:22:58] It can't be spent on some other

[1:22:59] projects.

[1:23:01] We say the dollar amount, 2.9

[1:23:03] million, that's above our

[1:23:04] required reserve is available

[1:23:06] for water projects.

[1:23:08] Any stormwater-type project.

[1:23:09] >>Rachel Frank: very helpful.

[1:23:14] Thank you, linda.

[1:23:16] >>Mayor Pachota: MR. Engelke,

[1:23:18] did you have your hand up?

[1:23:19] Looks like it.

[1:23:22] Thank you so much.

[1:23:23] MADAM Clerk, do you have anybody

[1:23:25] signed up to speak on this?

[1:23:26] >>Kelly Michaels: no.

[1:23:27] >>Mayor Pachota: okay.

[1:23:29] Then we will move on to council

[1:23:35] action and discussion, 26-0703.

[1:23:36] This is to appoint a member to

[1:23:37] the citizens tax oversight

[1:23:39] committee to serve a term from

[1:23:43] SEPTEMBER 1, 2026, to AUGUST

[1:23:47] 31 -- do you have any more

[1:23:49] introduction than that?

[1:23:52] Anybody signed up to speak?

[1:23:53] >>Kelly Michaels: no.

[1:23:54] >>Mayor Pachota: do I have a

[1:23:54] council member that would like

[1:23:57] to make a motion?

[1:23:58] >>Vice Mayor Boldt: MR. Mayor, I

[1:24:02] move to appoint peyton dewitt to

[1:24:03] the citizens tax oversight

[1:24:05] committee to serve a term from

[1:24:08] SEPTEMBER 1, 2026 to AUGUST 31,

[1:24:09] 2030.

[1:24:10] >>Mayor Pachota: I'll second

[1:24:11] that.

[1:24:12] With that, any council

[1:24:16] discussion?

[1:24:18] Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if

[1:24:19] you'll make us ready for an

[1:24:20] electronic vote.

[1:24:21] Council members, when your

[1:24:23] lights are flashing, you can

[1:24:25] indicate your vote.

[1:24:27] MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

[1:24:28] display.

[1:24:29] Passes unanimously.

[1:24:30] [Sounding gavel]

[1:24:33] Thank you to peyton dewitt for

[1:24:34] volunteering for that.

[1:24:38] We will move on to 26-0704.

[1:24:41] And this is appoint two members

[1:24:42] to the historic and

[1:24:43] architectural preservation board

[1:24:45] to serve a term from SEPTEMBER

[1:24:47] 1, 2026, to AUGUST 31, 2029.

[1:24:49] MADAM Clerk, did you have

[1:24:51] anything in addition to add to

[1:24:51] that.

[1:24:52] >>Kelly Michaels: I don't.

[1:24:53] >>Mayor Pachota: okay.

[1:24:55] Do we have anybody signed up to

[1:24:55] speak?

[1:24:55] >>Kelly Michaels: no.

[1:24:56] >>Mayor Pachota: I will

[1:24:57] entertain a motion from a

[1:24:59] council member.

[1:25:00] >>Rick Howard: move to appoint

[1:25:03] jean trammell to the historic

[1:25:04] and architectural preservation

[1:25:07] board to serve a term from

[1:25:09] SEPTEMBER 1 of '26 to AUGUST 31

[1:25:16] of '29.

[1:25:19] Give me a minute.

[1:25:19] >>Mayor Pachota: how many

[1:25:22] minutes do you need?

[1:25:28] >> move to appoint john steckty

[1:25:29] to the historic and

[1:25:30] architectural preservation board

[1:25:31] to serve a term from SEPTEMBER

[1:25:34] 1, '26 to AUGUST 31 of 2029.

[1:25:36] >>Mayor Pachota: I'll second it.

[1:25:37] With that, any council

[1:25:40] discussion?

[1:25:42] MADAM Clerk, we have a proper

[1:25:44] motion of both names and a

[1:25:45] proper second.

[1:25:47] We can go ahead and take an

[1:25:47] electronic vote.

[1:25:48] Council members, when your

[1:25:50] lights are flashing, you can

[1:25:52] indicate your vote.

[1:25:54] You can tally and display the

[1:25:55] vote.

[1:25:55] Passes unanimously.

[1:25:58] [Sounding gavel]

[1:26:00] We'll go ahead and take a

[1:26:06] seven-minute break and return --

[1:26:07] [Inaudible]

[1:26:18] .

[1:26:19] [Sounding gavel]

[1:26:19] >>Mayor Pachota: okay.

[1:26:21] We are back.

[1:26:24] If I can get everyone to quiet

[1:26:31] down for me, we are at 26-0705,

[1:26:32] which is airport workshop

[1:26:33] scheduling.

[1:26:35] That is the next item on the

[1:26:35] agenda.

[1:26:36] MR. City manager, if you would

[1:26:38] like to introduce the topic,

[1:26:39] please.

[1:26:40] >>James Clinch: thank you,

[1:26:40] mayor.

[1:26:41] As you know, we have a couple of

[1:26:45] things happening at the airport

[1:26:45] this fall.

[1:26:48] We are actively working towards

[1:26:50] the finalization of our master

[1:26:50] plan.

[1:26:52] It is almost done.

[1:26:54] It will end up being about three

[1:26:57] years in the making.

[1:26:58] We've gone above and beyond the

[1:26:59] number of public meetings

[1:27:01] required and we'll be picking

[1:27:03] the public meetings back up in

[1:27:03] OCTOBER.

[1:27:05] I think it's very important,

[1:27:07] today is a great demonstration

[1:27:09] of that, that we do everything

[1:27:11] we can to get the real story out

[1:27:13] there, make sure everyone feels

[1:27:15] informed and clear up any

[1:27:16] questions that there are related

[1:27:18] to the airport.

[1:27:19] And there's just, unfortunately,

[1:27:22] a lot of things happening at the

[1:27:22] same time.

[1:27:24] I appreciate that.

[1:27:25] And I recognize the concerns

[1:27:27] that come along with that.

[1:27:29] The flip side is, we, as you all

[1:27:32] know, are stewards of the

[1:27:34] airport and subject to the faa

[1:27:35] federal regulations.

[1:27:38] So with that, comes a lot of

[1:27:39] restrictions to our authority.

[1:27:42] So the purpose of this workshop

[1:27:44] would be before we kick off the

[1:27:46] public meetings to finish the

[1:27:47] master plan, I'd like to bring

[1:27:51] in our aviation attorney, chris

[1:27:51] wilson.

[1:27:53] He is an expert on aviation law.

[1:27:56] He is a teacher at embry-riddle

[1:27:58] university, and he can speak to

[1:28:02] the faa rules and regulations

[1:28:02] firsthand.

[1:28:03] I had the privilege of meeting

[1:28:05] with the faa in person about a

[1:28:06] month ago.

[1:28:07] The first time I had that

[1:28:09] privilege and hearing from them

[1:28:10] firsthand what we can do and

[1:28:12] what we can't do was very

[1:28:13] eye-opening.

[1:28:16] So I believe bringing MR. Wilson

[1:28:18] here to speak to those

[1:28:20] regulations will give you all a

[1:28:22] much better idea of what our

[1:28:23] authorities are, our

[1:28:26] capabilities are as we move

[1:28:27] towards closing out this master

[1:28:28] plan.

[1:28:28] It's going to be a very

[1:28:30] difficult process to bring this

[1:28:30] to a close.

[1:28:34] I think we all recognize that.

[1:28:37] Just because there are these faa

[1:28:38] regulations, doesn't mean we

[1:28:40] don't have any power.

[1:28:42] Chris can help us to navigate

[1:28:44] where our areas we can advocate

[1:28:46] and we can make, leave our

[1:28:47] fingerprints on this master plan

[1:28:50] and do things for the community

[1:28:51] like we've committed to and

[1:28:52] where are things we cannot,

[1:28:54] frankly, because of federal law.

[1:28:56] He'll help us navigate that,

[1:28:56] take questions.

[1:28:58] Ask him the hard questions.

[1:28:59] Ask him about the festival

[1:28:59] grounds.

[1:29:01] We can talk about the golf

[1:29:03] course, talk about noise,

[1:29:04] environment, whatever we want to

[1:29:05] talk about, I think it would be

[1:29:07] a very healthy exercise.

[1:29:08] My request to you today is,

[1:29:11] number one, do you want to hold

[1:29:11] this council workshop?

[1:29:14] Number two, what would be a good

[1:29:17] date to get that scheduled?

[1:29:17] >>Mayor Pachota: is there more

[1:29:19] of a presentation or does that

[1:29:20] sum everything up?

[1:29:21] >>James Clinch: that sums

[1:29:21] everything up.

[1:29:23] I'm happy to dive into question

[1:29:24] necessary you have.

[1:29:27] I'd love to talk, if there's

[1:29:28] time, about the

[1:29:29] misinterpretation of the tower

[1:29:31] that we've heard from today, but

[1:29:34] I'll leave that for your

[1:29:35] discussion, mayor.

[1:29:35] >>Mayor Pachota: okay.

[1:29:40] any questions of MR. Clinch?

[1:29:41] MR. Engelke.

[1:29:43] >>Kevin Engelke: I love the idea

[1:29:45] of scheduling a workshop to hear

[1:29:46] from the attorney.

[1:29:48] I think it's going to clear up a

[1:29:51] lot of concerns, a lot of

[1:29:52] misconceptions, and kind of

[1:29:54] outline what we can and cannot

[1:29:54] do.

[1:29:56] I'm highly encouraged that we

[1:29:59] have that opportunity.

[1:30:01] >>Mayor Pachota: MS. Frank.

[1:30:02] >>Rachel Frank: thank you.

[1:30:03] Again, in favor of scheduling

[1:30:05] this workshop, I believe the

[1:30:07] dates floated were in OCTOBER.

[1:30:08] Is there anything you can

[1:30:12] educate us on relating to the

[1:30:13] special events and the festival

[1:30:14] grounds from the public comment

[1:30:16] concerns we heard today?

[1:30:17] Because I feel like OCTOBER is a

[1:30:20] long way to wait for clarity on

[1:30:21] that particular issue.

[1:30:22] >>James Clinch: sure.

[1:30:23] We can address that right now.

[1:30:25] I met with the faa directly a

[1:30:25] month ago.

[1:30:27] We asked them point-blank about

[1:30:28] the festival grounds.

[1:30:30] The festival grounds has always

[1:30:32] been part of the airport and has

[1:30:33] faa oversight.

[1:30:36] It is intended for aeronautical

[1:30:38] use at some point in the future.

[1:30:39] The faa made that very clear.

[1:30:41] At some point in the future,

[1:30:44] that area will be used for

[1:30:45] aeronautical activities, which

[1:30:47] will be -- is and will be

[1:30:49] reflected in our master plan.

[1:30:51] The faa understood, because I

[1:30:52] expressed the importance of this

[1:30:55] location to our community, we

[1:30:56] actually generate revenue by

[1:30:58] having events there, and there's

[1:30:59] nothing happening out there

[1:31:00] right now, right?

[1:31:02] There's nothing on the books.

[1:31:04] there's no leases coming your

[1:31:06] way any time soon.

[1:31:08] So there's really no reason to

[1:31:09] preclude events from happening

[1:31:10] there.

[1:31:11] And they were very open to that.

[1:31:13] The concern, and the reason why

[1:31:15] our department reached out

[1:31:17] earlier this year is we had

[1:31:18] received some correspondence

[1:31:20] from faa with concerns about the

[1:31:21] festival grounds.

[1:31:22] They don't want to see any more

[1:31:24] improvements there.

[1:31:26] They don't want to see any more

[1:31:27] non-aeronautical investments in

[1:31:28] that area.

[1:31:30] They know at some point in time,

[1:31:31] that will be aeronautical

[1:31:32] expansion.

[1:31:34] And they made that very clear.

[1:31:36] So I think we've put to rest

[1:31:38] with them that in the meantime,

[1:31:39] these festivals are a very

[1:31:40] positive thing, but we wanted to

[1:31:43] be transparent with our event

[1:31:45] holders because, and we've

[1:31:46] learned this in the past with

[1:31:48] the faa, they could send a

[1:31:50] letter at any point in time that

[1:31:52] says you have 90 days to vacate

[1:31:53] the festival grounds.

[1:31:56] This is a non-aeronautical

[1:31:56] activity.

[1:31:57] I don't anticipate that's going

[1:31:59] to happen, but it's important

[1:32:01] that our event holders know that

[1:32:03] is always a possibility that's

[1:32:04] on the table.

[1:32:05] That's what we communicated to

[1:32:06] them.

[1:32:07] But I hope after our meetings

[1:32:09] with the faa recently, we can

[1:32:11] give them a little more

[1:32:13] confidence that we will give you

[1:32:14] every authority we have to

[1:32:16] schedule and hold your event.

[1:32:18] If a federal authority above us

[1:32:20] says we can't, that's out of all

[1:32:21] of our hands.

[1:32:25] so just be aware of that.

[1:32:28] >>Mayor Pachota: MR. Howard.

[1:32:30] >>Rick Howard: just echoing my

[1:32:30] colleagues.

[1:32:32] Total support, james, of having

[1:32:33] this workshop.

[1:32:35] I think it's a great idea to

[1:32:38] make sure we're as educated as

[1:32:41] possible with what the faa does

[1:32:44] and their authority, our

[1:32:46] authority or not.

[1:32:48] And thank you, rachel, for

[1:32:50] clarifying the fairgrounds

[1:32:51] because I know that is special

[1:32:53] to a lot of residents and event

[1:32:54] holders.

[1:32:56] That's it, mayor.

[1:33:02] >>Mayor Pachota: MR. Smith.

[1:33:03] >>Ron Smith: thank you, mayor.

[1:33:05] I'm very happy we're going to

[1:33:08] set, seems like everybody is in

[1:33:11] favor, of a workshop.

[1:33:12] Originally, MR. City manager, I

[1:33:18] had asked if we could have the

[1:33:19] faa actually some representative

[1:33:21] be here so we could ask

[1:33:22] questions.

[1:33:24] I wanted to do that because so

[1:33:26] often our answer is, well, the

[1:33:27] faa won't let us do that.

[1:33:30] I just want to ask, can we do

[1:33:31] this?

[1:33:32] Interesting, earlier today, one

[1:33:34] of the speakers said there is a

[1:33:35] new statement by the faa that

[1:33:37] they can approve non-aviation

[1:33:38] uses.

[1:33:39] That fascinates me.

[1:33:41] I know nothing about it except

[1:33:42] what I just heard and everybody

[1:33:43] else here heard.

[1:33:45] I would like to know if that is

[1:33:47] the case and if we can formally

[1:33:49] designate some areas with their

[1:33:51] approval for non-aviation uses

[1:33:52] because we have some that we'd

[1:33:56] like to have for sure.

[1:33:59] But I believe you told me they

[1:34:01] declined our invitation to be a

[1:34:04] part of this, is that right?

[1:34:04] >>James Clinch: that is correct.

[1:34:06] It was not personal to venice.

[1:34:08] I asked them point-blank if they

[1:34:10] would be interested and willing

[1:34:12] to come speak to our council.

[1:34:13] They said they have a policy

[1:34:14] they don't do that.

[1:34:16] That's all they would end up

[1:34:17] doing all day, every day and

[1:34:18] have another job to do.

[1:34:20] They were, however, very

[1:34:22] supportive and actually

[1:34:23] referenced MR. Wilson directly

[1:34:25] and said, you know what, we work

[1:34:26] with him regularly.

[1:34:28] He knows our rules.

[1:34:29] He will speak to your questions

[1:34:31] just the same as if we were.

[1:34:33] That was their recommendation.

[1:34:34] >>Ron Smith: I thank you.

[1:34:36] I thank you for your suggestion

[1:34:37] that we have our attorney, who

[1:34:39] you said graduated from

[1:34:41] aeronautical school himself and

[1:34:43] new the fa ark rules better than

[1:34:46] anybody, to be at our workshop.

[1:34:47] So I thank you for that.

[1:34:49] Maybe he can answer some of the

[1:34:50] very questions I would have

[1:34:54] liked to ask the faa.

[1:34:57] I think the workshop has taken

[1:35:01] on a whole different light in

[1:35:04] response to presentations made

[1:35:05] today, the mayor-elect.

[1:35:07] I'm not going to call you vice

[1:35:08] mayor anymore.

[1:35:11] Mayor-elect pointed out all the

[1:35:13] e-mails he's gotten on the

[1:35:14] concerns over what seems to be

[1:35:19] an evolving idea of what was

[1:35:22] once a pole and cameras to be

[1:35:24] coming -- to becoming something

[1:35:29] that would be a locally based

[1:35:31] flight control operation, and

[1:35:33] now even possibly a separate

[1:35:35] additional building to the

[1:35:38] terminal building to house up to

[1:35:40] five city employees.

[1:35:43] So the dismay we've heard from

[1:35:45] the public and from even members

[1:35:53] of the citizens advisory council

[1:35:57] for the master plan has me very

[1:35:58] concerned that we need to have a

[1:35:59] discussion about all of that.

[1:36:02] And is the right place for that

[1:36:04] discussion at this workshop?

[1:36:05] Will there be opportunity to

[1:36:05] have conversation at the

[1:36:07] workshop is what I want to ask

[1:36:08] you?

[1:36:08] >>James Clinch: yes.

[1:36:10] I think that workshop, you know,

[1:36:12] my original intent is to bring

[1:36:14] in MR. Wilson so we can get a

[1:36:15] presentation and ask him

[1:36:15] questions.

[1:36:19] I think the remote tower, which

[1:36:20] I need to speak to you here in a

[1:36:24] moment, but if the grant is

[1:36:25] successful on the remote tower,

[1:36:28] I think at that point we'll be

[1:36:29] able to have a meaningful

[1:36:31] discussion on what the remote

[1:36:32] tower is going to look like.

[1:36:35] That would be the perfect time.

[1:36:36] Our airport director is in the

[1:36:37] back.

[1:36:38] I'm sure he would be more than

[1:36:39] happy to put together a

[1:36:40] presentation on the remote

[1:36:42] tower, of which we'll have a lot

[1:36:44] more answers at that point.

[1:36:45] I'd love to speak a little more

[1:36:47] on that topic when it's

[1:36:48] appropriate.

[1:36:52] >>Ron Smith: if I can just ask

[1:36:55] this, I feel like we couldn't

[1:36:56] really have a citizen panel

[1:36:59] working with us on adopting a

[1:37:01] ten-year master plan without

[1:37:02] them knowing that this existed

[1:37:07] or that we were pursuing this,

[1:37:08] which is they didn't have any

[1:37:09] knowledge of it.

[1:37:11] I didn't have any knowledge of

[1:37:12] it.

[1:37:14] And it's very different than --

[1:37:16] we saw that little video where

[1:37:18] we're saying it's just a pole.

[1:37:21] Reminds me of the old thing in

[1:37:21] grammar school.

[1:37:23] Just a bill, just a bill.

[1:37:25] It's not anything until it gets

[1:37:26] signed by the mayor or the

[1:37:31] PRESIDENT.

[1:37:36] The group we recruited as a

[1:37:37] citizens advisory board to the

[1:37:38] master plan conversation, I

[1:37:40] think every single person on

[1:37:41] this council attended the

[1:37:44] meeting at the community center

[1:37:47] with 250 people, and it was

[1:37:48] never mentioned that this was

[1:37:49] the direction we were going to

[1:37:49] take.

[1:37:54] So that's my big concern is the

[1:37:55] transparency and leaving people

[1:37:57] who are on an advisory board

[1:37:58] feeling like they were not

[1:37:59] informed or misled.

[1:38:01] And then to a certain extent

[1:38:03] that I was misled because

[1:38:05] somebody accused me of being to

[1:38:06] blame for all this because I was

[1:38:09] out there saying it was just a

[1:38:11] pole and camera and nothing

[1:38:13] about expanding the airport.

[1:38:15] Stop saying we're expanding the

[1:38:15] airport.

[1:38:21] Some people told me that they

[1:38:23] ramped down because I was

[1:38:23] telling them that.

[1:38:25] I was telling them what I was

[1:38:26] being told.

[1:38:28] I feel to a certain extent, let

[1:38:31] down that I was put in that

[1:38:32] position.

[1:38:34] I'm aghast, and I apologize to

[1:38:36] anybody for anything I told them

[1:38:37] that was short of what is

[1:38:39] reality.

[1:38:41] I do look forward to your

[1:38:42] addressing that.

[1:38:45] Thank you.

[1:38:46] >>Mayor Pachota: let's go ahead,

[1:38:48] MADAM Clerk, if you'll reorder,

[1:38:50] put vice mayor boldt ahead of

[1:38:51] mine and let vice mayor go

[1:38:56] first.

[1:38:58] >>Vice Mayor Boldt: thank you.

[1:39:00] it's distressing to listen to

[1:39:01] the public.

[1:39:03] It is distressing to listen to

[1:39:05] all of this, simply because for

[1:39:07] anybody that's worked with the

[1:39:08] federal government, which we all

[1:39:10] have in some way, shape, or

[1:39:13] form, whether paying our taxes

[1:39:14] or otherwise, you know there's

[1:39:16] no easy answer.

[1:39:17] And there's usually not even a

[1:39:19] straight answer.

[1:39:22] I'm not here to defend anybody,

[1:39:26] but the reality is that this is

[1:39:30] kind of a moving target, shall

[1:39:31] we say?

[1:39:33] What we think we should have and

[1:39:38] what the faa tells us we need to

[1:39:39] have can be two entirely

[1:39:42] different things.

[1:39:44] I'm not putting words in james'

[1:39:45] mouth because I don't really

[1:39:48] know the answer, but I get the

[1:39:53] impression from our discussions

[1:39:55] that you have to approach this

[1:39:57] from different ways depending on

[1:39:58] what you're after.

[1:40:00] Is it you just need a tower for

[1:40:03] safety or do you need a grant

[1:40:07] for a tower?

[1:40:08] Asking for a grant, you have to

[1:40:09] substantiate that.

[1:40:10] And I think that's a lot of what

[1:40:12] we've seen in the report that

[1:40:16] went to the faa, trying to

[1:40:17] substantiate the need.

[1:40:19] Do I agree with all the wording?

[1:40:20] Of course, not.

[1:40:22] Because it does sound like we're

[1:40:24] trying to expand the airport.

[1:40:25] I can tell you from my

[1:40:27] standpoint here, that is not

[1:40:28] what I'm looking for.

[1:40:31] I'm looking for safety.

[1:40:34] So I would just, you know, I'm

[1:40:35] all for this workshop.

[1:40:36] I look forward to it.

[1:40:38] I think it will be a great

[1:40:40] opportunity for us to get with

[1:40:44] attorney wilson, and try to get

[1:40:45] us some clarity on what we're

[1:40:48] allowed to do and what we're not

[1:40:49] allowed to do.

[1:40:50] Because I really get the feeling

[1:40:55] that it's just like every other

[1:40:56] federal government situation.

[1:40:57] Well, today, it's this, but

[1:41:00] tomorrow it could be this.

[1:41:01] So I would just ask everybody to

[1:41:04] bear that in mind, what our

[1:41:08] staff is trying to do is put

[1:41:11] together a program that gets us

[1:41:14] where we need to be.

[1:41:15] However, that MAY require them

[1:41:17] to say some things that aren't

[1:41:18] necessarily -- I don't want to

[1:41:21] say untrue -- but aren't

[1:41:25] necessarily what we in total are

[1:41:27] looking for.

[1:41:27] I'm all for this.

[1:41:29] The sooner the better.

[1:41:32] Thank you.

[1:41:33] >>Mayor Pachota: I have a few

[1:41:35] points of clarity.

[1:41:36] This is where things get

[1:41:37] complicated.

[1:41:38] We have a lot of discussions.

[1:41:40] We get a lot of feedback.

[1:41:42] But, unfortunately, unless it is

[1:41:44] voted on, a motion made by the

[1:41:46] council and voted on, then it's

[1:41:47] not official.

[1:41:49] I think perhaps looking at some

[1:41:51] of our previous information

[1:41:52] sheets and making sure that all

[1:41:54] of the data to date is correct

[1:41:56] is another important piece to

[1:41:57] this puzzle.

[1:41:59] But I'm reminded now

[1:42:00] specifically because the minutes

[1:42:02] are in front of me, when we were

[1:42:05] discussing this back in MAY of

[1:42:06] 2022, and we were having a

[1:42:07] discussion about the master plan

[1:42:10] and it needing to be updated and

[1:42:13] I was then vice mayor and I

[1:42:14] actually made the motion to move

[1:42:16] up the master planning process

[1:42:18] because we were afraid we were

[1:42:21] going to be too far behind.

[1:42:22] so, again, having a plan in

[1:42:23] place is the most important

[1:42:25] thing so we know what is coming

[1:42:26] and what to expect.

[1:42:29] But at no point in time did we

[1:42:32] ever promote, discuss,

[1:42:34] encourage, expansion beyond the

[1:42:35] current footprint of the

[1:42:35] airport.

[1:42:37] I think that's important that we

[1:42:39] highlight that because I'm

[1:42:40] reminded by reading through the

[1:42:41] motion here, specifically that

[1:42:43] we said, well, we rather,

[1:42:45] instead of this coming out of

[1:42:48] our general fund or our taxpayer

[1:42:50] dollars, we rather get a grant

[1:42:53] for this because we know it's

[1:42:53] coming.

[1:42:54] Very clear from the minutes this

[1:42:55] was the presentation.

[1:42:57] Getting some form of a tower,

[1:42:58] whether remote.

[1:42:59] At the time, I think we were

[1:43:01] talking about a traditional faa

[1:43:04] staffed tower, but we had the

[1:43:05] forethought to say we want to

[1:43:06] make sure we apply for grants so

[1:43:10] we don't have to take it out of

[1:43:11] our general fund.

[1:43:13] That said, I'm absolutely in

[1:43:14] favor of transparency.

[1:43:16] I think having workshops is very

[1:43:16] important.

[1:43:17] I think it's important that

[1:43:18] people understand that when we

[1:43:19] have the workshops and we listen

[1:43:21] to all the feedback, that

[1:43:23] doesn't make it the actual

[1:43:24] direction moving forward like

[1:43:25] this does.

[1:43:27] When the council makes a motion

[1:43:29] and approves that motion and

[1:43:30] this is unanimous.

[1:43:33] I wasn't mayor at the time, but

[1:43:34] everybody on the council at that

[1:43:36] time had agreed to move forward

[1:43:38] with pursuing grant funding for

[1:43:39] that tower.

[1:43:40] I think that's important that

[1:43:42] we're talking back to '22.

[1:43:44] This has been a very long

[1:43:44] process.

[1:43:46] If you look back at the

[1:43:46] timeline.

[1:43:48] It probably even started before

[1:43:48] me.

[1:43:50] But that said, I do have a

[1:43:53] concern as it relates to the

[1:43:54] date for the workshop.

[1:43:56] Having just gone through this in

[1:43:57] the primary election, I'm very

[1:43:58] concerned that we would be doing

[1:44:02] a workshop in the middle of

[1:44:03] early voting.

[1:44:05] So with all the candidates for

[1:44:08] seat 2 and two candidates for

[1:44:09] another seat, I think it's

[1:44:10] important that we not take away

[1:44:12] from those individuals, the

[1:44:13] ability to participate.

[1:44:14] So I would say that we need to

[1:44:17] look at something that's more

[1:44:19] OCTOBER 15 would be my

[1:44:19] suggestion.

[1:44:21] I don't know how that fits into

[1:44:23] staff's timeline, but I would

[1:44:25] caution you before we solidify a

[1:44:28] date here that we look at what's

[1:44:29] going on during that time,

[1:44:30] because you'll have early voting

[1:44:32] and then the election and, of

[1:44:34] course, things could change on

[1:44:36] the council as far as who is

[1:44:36] officially on the council.

[1:44:38] I would like everybody to have

[1:44:39] the opportunity to participate,

[1:44:41] so I think we need to look at

[1:44:44] the week before early voting so

[1:44:46] we're not taking that away from

[1:44:47] anybody.

[1:44:49] Any comments or objections?

[1:44:50] >>James Clinch: none at all.

[1:44:52] I think more than ever, moving

[1:44:53] it sooner is a good thing for

[1:44:54] us.

[1:44:55] We'll just have to confirm with

[1:44:58] MR. Wilson to make sure that

[1:44:59] works with his schedule.

[1:45:00] If you want to give us authority

[1:45:02] to work with the city clerk with

[1:45:04] your all schedule, we can work

[1:45:06] with MR. Wilson to find a date

[1:45:07] that works.

[1:45:07] >>Mayor Pachota: my proposal to

[1:45:09] the council would be OCTOBER 15,

[1:45:10] because I think you have make a

[1:45:11] difference day happening the

[1:45:13] next day and then you have that

[1:45:15] weekend and then early voting

[1:45:17] starting that weekend.

[1:45:20] The other thing is, I'd like to

[1:45:22] give you an opportunity to speak

[1:45:23] to some of the things that we're

[1:45:25] talking about.

[1:45:26] I'm going to need to remind

[1:45:28] everybody, probably the third or

[1:45:29] fourth time, if we could take

[1:45:31] our cell phones and put them on

[1:45:32] silent so we can have

[1:45:33] uninterrupted discussion, I

[1:45:35] think that's very important.

[1:45:37] I would like you to take a

[1:45:38] minute, MR. Clinch, and just

[1:45:41] kind of talk about some of these

[1:45:42] concerns that have been brought

[1:45:42] up.

[1:45:44] I specifically remember a time

[1:45:44] when we were talking about

[1:45:45] laurel road.

[1:45:47] I had just come on to council,

[1:45:49] talking about a public-private

[1:45:49] partnership.

[1:45:51] Everybody on the northeast side

[1:45:52] was in favor.

[1:45:53] Then we had a group come in, I

[1:45:55] think they just moved into town,

[1:45:56] kind of built up and then all of

[1:45:58] a sudden wanted to pump the

[1:46:00] brakes on it, came back to the

[1:46:01] council, hey, we want to move

[1:46:03] forward on the expansion of

[1:46:04] laurel road.

[1:46:04] It's very complicated as a

[1:46:05] council member because you're

[1:46:07] trying to listen to your

[1:46:08] constituents.

[1:46:09] I specifically remember looking

[1:46:12] at the audience at that time and

[1:46:13] saying, I want to very

[1:46:14] cautiously move forward on this

[1:46:17] because we've already had two

[1:46:19] different pump-the-brakes

[1:46:20] conversation.

[1:46:21] If you really want us to move

[1:46:22] forward, I want to hear it from

[1:46:24] a lot of people that we're

[1:46:25] moving forward so I'm not

[1:46:28] pumping the brakes on something

[1:46:28] again.

[1:46:30] Kind of reliving that with the

[1:46:30] airport.

[1:46:32] Had concerns over time.

[1:46:33] Since I was a kid, we talked

[1:46:35] about having the airport

[1:46:36] relocated across town and other

[1:46:39] parts of the state.

[1:46:41] I'm not trying to minimize

[1:46:42] anyone's concerns, but at the

[1:46:45] same time, the master plan

[1:46:47] should be for us to have a plan

[1:46:50] so that we can see what's

[1:46:50] coming.

[1:46:53] It should not be for us to do

[1:46:56] any expansions, to do anything

[1:46:58] that's going to drive more

[1:46:59] growth at the airport.

[1:47:01] I've been very vocal about that

[1:47:02] since the beginning of this.

[1:47:03] I want you to have an

[1:47:04] opportunity here to talk about

[1:47:05] some of the concerns because I'm

[1:47:07] seeing it again in my e-mail.

[1:47:09] There are definitely some things

[1:47:11] that seem to be misconstrued

[1:47:13] facts or misunderstandings or

[1:47:14] whatever it might be.

[1:47:16] So if you'd like to take a

[1:47:17] minute to kind of go over some

[1:47:19] of that, I'm going to give you

[1:47:20] that opportunity.

[1:47:21] >>James Clinch: thank you,

[1:47:23] mayor.

[1:47:25] Happy to also work with the

[1:47:27] history which you touched on, on

[1:47:28] the tower.

[1:47:29] This did come up originally over

[1:47:30] four years ago.

[1:47:32] It was brought to our attention

[1:47:34] by vasi directly.

[1:47:36] it still is today all about

[1:47:38] safety.

[1:47:40] This was a major safety concern

[1:47:42] that they brought forward to us,

[1:47:43] made a presentation to council,

[1:47:46] and we got the direction at that

[1:47:48] point in time to expedite the

[1:47:52] master plan and to pursue grant

[1:47:53] sources for a tower.

[1:47:55] At that point in time, remote

[1:47:57] towers were not really well

[1:48:00] known and were not authorized

[1:48:00] for use.

[1:48:03] So there was a real potential of

[1:48:07] having a brick and mortar style

[1:48:08] tower.

[1:48:09] I want to clear that up, next

[1:48:10] topic.

[1:48:12] What we heard today, nothing has

[1:48:13] really changed with the tower.

[1:48:16] It's still a remote tower that

[1:48:17] we're pursuing, as it always has

[1:48:19] been, a camera on top of poles,

[1:48:21] but you still have to have a

[1:48:24] place where humans are

[1:48:26] monitoring these virtual -- the

[1:48:28] virtual information that's

[1:48:29] coming into a control room.

[1:48:32] When I spoke to you all in JUNE,

[1:48:34] and this kind of goes to the

[1:48:36] root of the challenge that we're

[1:48:36] having here.

[1:48:38] I certainly apologize to the

[1:48:40] community for any misinformation

[1:48:41] or misinterpretation that's

[1:48:44] happened.

[1:48:45] But while we were on breaks from

[1:48:47] council meetings, our staff are

[1:48:48] actively still working.

[1:48:49] So there have been some changes

[1:48:51] since JUNE that we just haven't

[1:48:53] had the opportunity to share.

[1:48:56] One of the big changes is we had

[1:48:57] hoped, and I talked about in

[1:48:58] JUNE, we hoped that we would be

[1:49:01] able to put that control room

[1:49:03] within the new administrative

[1:49:05] building that we are building,

[1:49:07] that's under construction today

[1:49:08] on the airport property.

[1:49:10] our engineers and our architects

[1:49:13] were directed to look into that,

[1:49:15] modifying the building to

[1:49:15] incorporate it.

[1:49:17] The only way it would fit

[1:49:18] because it is a pretty big space

[1:49:20] with all the screens and I.T.

[1:49:22] Equipment is if we lost the

[1:49:23] community room.

[1:49:26] Well, that community room is

[1:49:27] something we've been promising

[1:49:30] the airport and south island

[1:49:31] community for years.

[1:49:32] So I was not comfortable with

[1:49:34] losing the community room and

[1:49:35] replacing it with a control

[1:49:36] room.

[1:49:38] So I asked our staff, I said, we

[1:49:40] need to go back to the drawing

[1:49:41] board.

[1:49:44] So that's where this potential

[1:49:46] other location came from.

[1:49:48] So we have to put the control

[1:49:49] room somewhere.

[1:49:50] Where could that control room

[1:49:51] be?

[1:49:52] Well, it could be off-site.

[1:49:53] It could be anywhere.

[1:49:56] It could be at our airport in

[1:49:58] another small modular building.

[1:50:00] It could be at a different

[1:50:02] airport in tampa or arcadia.

[1:50:04] These are decisions that have

[1:50:06] not been made yet, but as part

[1:50:08] of the grant process, there are

[1:50:10] decisions that have to be

[1:50:13] clarified and conceptualized for

[1:50:14] the faa.

[1:50:15] That's where this presentation

[1:50:16] came from.

[1:50:19] It was a direct response to

[1:50:21] questions that came in from the

[1:50:23] faa as part of the grant

[1:50:23] process.

[1:50:24] Kind of going back to the

[1:50:26] history, we talked about this

[1:50:27] remote tower for four years.

[1:50:30] Talked about it at length at our

[1:50:31] FEBRUARY strategic planning

[1:50:33] session and got into our

[1:50:35] strategic plan, and we've been

[1:50:37] lucky enough now that there is

[1:50:39] this authorized remote tower

[1:50:41] system that we can pursue.

[1:50:42] We submitted the grant.

[1:50:43] We don't know yet if we're going

[1:50:46] to be awarded this grant or not,

[1:50:49] but if we were, it would be a

[1:50:50] huge benefit from a safety

[1:50:52] standpoint to our airport.

[1:50:56] And from a financial standpoint,

[1:50:57] it would cover virtually the

[1:51:00] entire cost of the remote tower.

[1:51:01] What I would propose, and why

[1:51:02] this workshop is so important,

[1:51:05] if we hold it after we know --

[1:51:06] we should hear on the grant

[1:51:08] award really within the next 30

[1:51:08] days or so.

[1:51:10] When we hold this workshop,

[1:51:11] we'll know if we're getting the

[1:51:12] money or not.

[1:51:15] When we know we're getting the

[1:51:16] money, we can have those more

[1:51:17] substantial conversations about

[1:51:20] how are we going to staff the

[1:51:20] tower?

[1:51:22] Do we want to have in-house

[1:51:24] controllers or contract it out?

[1:51:25] Where do we want to put the

[1:51:27] control room?

[1:51:29] There are a lot of benefits,

[1:51:30] pros and cons to all the

[1:51:31] scenarios.

[1:51:33] We just haven't gotten into that

[1:51:34] yet.

[1:51:35] It is a little bit unfortunate

[1:51:37] that this conceptual plan is

[1:51:41] being taken out of context and

[1:51:42] used as this is what's going to

[1:51:43] happen.

[1:51:44] That's just not true.

[1:51:48] But I'm sorry we weren't able to

[1:51:48] get ahead of it sooner.

[1:51:50] The last thing I want to say and

[1:51:52] this is the most important

[1:51:54] thing, it's still about safety.

[1:51:57] In 2022, when this came up, it

[1:52:00] was about safety, and we are now

[1:52:03] 41% higher operations than we

[1:52:03] were in 2022.

[1:52:07] If it was unsafe then, it's 41%

[1:52:09] more unsafe at this point in

[1:52:10] time.

[1:52:12] We've also had a study from

[1:52:14] F.D.O.T., an engineering

[1:52:16] analysis, to say a tower is

[1:52:18] warranted for safety purposes.

[1:52:20] I can't stress that enough.

[1:52:23] I love the video slip of the

[1:52:24] statement I made because that is

[1:52:25] so true.

[1:52:27] Safety is paramount when you are

[1:52:30] running this type of operation.

[1:52:31] Unfortunately, we've had

[1:52:33] incidents, we've had fatalities

[1:52:34] at our airport.

[1:52:35] I'll do everything in my

[1:52:37] authority to make sure we reduce

[1:52:39] that risk moving forward.

[1:52:40] Safety remains the most

[1:52:41] important thing.

[1:52:43] Will there be benefits for noise

[1:52:44] abatement, absolutely.

[1:52:47] We'll have more control over the

[1:52:48] zero control that we have today.

[1:52:52] So there's some ancillary

[1:52:52] benefits, but it's all about

[1:52:55] safety.

[1:52:56] Last thing I want to say is I

[1:52:57] appreciate everybody who reached

[1:53:00] out to our office yesterday with

[1:53:01] questions.

[1:53:02] We answered everybody who called

[1:53:04] in and every e-mail that came in

[1:53:06] and we will continue and be open

[1:53:07] to do that.

[1:53:09] I hope that helped to at least

[1:53:11] clarify where we are a little

[1:53:11] bit today.

[1:53:13] >>Mayor Pachota: with that, is

[1:53:15] there any other question for MR.

[1:53:15] Clinch?

[1:53:16] MR. Smith.

[1:53:18] >>Ron Smith: just briefly.

[1:53:19] Two things.

[1:53:21] I first focused on yesterday,

[1:53:27] when we saw e-mails, and, again,

[1:53:28] I don't know the actual

[1:53:30] situation, so I'd ask if you

[1:53:34] could give us a quick update,

[1:53:37] not wait until fire off

[1:53:38] workshop.

[1:53:39] People were asking about whether

[1:53:42] we are planning to buy air

[1:53:46] rights or outright buy homes as

[1:53:49] part of our noise abatement

[1:53:49] situation.

[1:53:51] There was a map showing where

[1:53:52] they would be and people saying

[1:53:54] I live right next to that,

[1:53:55] what's going on there.

[1:53:58] Is it possible to update the

[1:54:00] public on that at this moment?

[1:54:02] The other one last night being

[1:54:03] asked about whether we're going

[1:54:06] to have a second fixed-base

[1:54:07] operator and what is the status

[1:54:08] of that.

[1:54:10] If I could ask those today so

[1:54:12] people know what the situation

[1:54:12] is.

[1:54:14] >>James Clinch: sure.

[1:54:16] I'm happy to tell you what I

[1:54:16] know.

[1:54:18] Airport directors in the back,

[1:54:19] if you want to get into more

[1:54:20] details.

[1:54:21] These are really separate from

[1:54:22] the tower discussion.

[1:54:23] There was an exhibit in the

[1:54:25] tower grant that showed the rpz,

[1:54:28] the runway protection zone,

[1:54:30] showed it overlapping three

[1:54:30] properties.

[1:54:31] This is really part of the

[1:54:32] master plan process.

[1:54:34] We'll be talking more about

[1:54:34] this.

[1:54:36] My understanding is the faa is

[1:54:37] looking at those three

[1:54:39] properties as a hazard, because

[1:54:39] they are.

[1:54:41] They are in the rpz.

[1:54:45] We were able to move that rpz

[1:54:46] about ten years ago or so which

[1:54:47] was great.

[1:54:49] We took a lot of houses out of

[1:54:51] the danger zone by shifting the

[1:54:52] runway to the south.

[1:54:53] but there are still three

[1:54:55] properties that are within that

[1:54:55] rpz.

[1:54:57] I believe the faa is looking at

[1:54:59] that going, you really need to

[1:55:00] have a plan for these properties

[1:55:02] in the future, whether it's

[1:55:05] getting an easement or outright

[1:55:06] buying those properties.

[1:55:07] That's something that we will

[1:55:10] talk more about when we get into

[1:55:11] the master plan.

[1:55:12] I spoke to a couple of people

[1:55:14] about this yesterday.

[1:55:16] We are not actively pursuing any

[1:55:17] purchase of those properties.

[1:55:18] Ing

[1:55:21] .Nothing is happening at this

[1:55:23] point in time but is part of a

[1:55:24] discussion for the master plan.

[1:55:25] >>Mayor Pachota: I think you

[1:55:26] need to highlight we're not

[1:55:29] actively pursuing eminent domain

[1:55:29] either.

[1:55:30] I think that was a very big

[1:55:31] concern, are you coming to take

[1:55:32] my house?

[1:55:33] >>James Clinch: correct.

[1:55:35] Not pursuing eminent domain.

[1:55:37] It is the master plan.

[1:55:40] It is the plan for the next 10

[1:55:42] to 30 years of the airport.

[1:55:44] Second fbo, again, something

[1:55:46] that ties into the master plan.

[1:55:47] I think it's very well known at

[1:55:49] some point in time there will be

[1:55:52] a need for second fbo.

[1:55:53] We're looking in the master plan

[1:55:55] and we'll get into where these

[1:55:57] kind of things could go, because

[1:55:59] as we heard in the video clip,

[1:56:01] which is true, we do want to try

[1:56:04] to shift the more impactful

[1:56:05] operations to the far east side

[1:56:07] of the airport.

[1:56:09] If and when an fbo were to come

[1:56:11] in, that would be the area we

[1:56:12] would look at.

[1:56:13] That will be talked about in

[1:56:16] more depth with the master plan.

[1:56:16] >>Ron Smith: thank you for those

[1:56:17] answers.

[1:56:18] >>Mayor Pachota: with that, I'll

[1:56:19] make a motion then that we

[1:56:23] schedule the airport workshop,

[1:56:24] and, if we could, look at the

[1:56:26] date of OCTOBER 15, or working

[1:56:27] with the clerk's office, propose

[1:56:29] a date that works with all of

[1:56:31] the council members.

[1:56:33] Seconded by vice mayor boldt.

[1:56:35] MADAM Clerk, do you have anybody

[1:56:38] signed up to speak?

[1:56:39] >> no, we do not.

[1:56:40] >>Mayor Pachota: any council

[1:56:43] discussion on the motion?

[1:56:45] Seeing none, MADAM Clerk, if you

[1:56:47] can ready us for an electronic

[1:56:47] vote.

[1:56:48] Council members, when your

[1:56:49] lights are flashing, you can

[1:56:51] indicate your vote.

[1:56:53] MADAM Clerk, you can tally and

[1:56:53] display the vote.

[1:56:54] It passes unanimously.

[1:56:59] [Sounding gavel]

[1:57:00] We do have a noon executive

[1:57:02] session scheduled, so I'll move

[1:57:03] on to the next item and then

[1:57:05] we'll probably break after that

[1:57:08] to go to executive session.

[1:57:13] With that let's move on to

[1:57:15] 26-0706, and this is an item

[1:57:19] that was put on by MR. Smith and

[1:57:20] MS. Frank.

[1:57:21] So MR. Smith, if you would like

[1:57:29] to introduce the topic briefly.

[1:57:31] >>Ron Smith: thank you, mayor.

[1:57:32] I know you want an introduction

[1:57:34] and then a discussion.

[1:57:35] I'll try.

[1:57:38] I was extremely impressed with a

[1:57:40] presentation given to us over

[1:57:43] the course of two meetings by

[1:57:45] steve carr on this topic.

[1:57:46] And we have since received

[1:57:49] materials from their lawyer.

[1:57:53] So I wanted us to have a good

[1:58:04] discussion of this long-standing

[1:58:05] issue involving curry creek.

[1:58:06] >>Mayor Pachota: with that, is

[1:58:08] there any staff input on this,

[1:58:10] MR. Clinch?

[1:58:12] >>James Clinch: yes, mayor, if

[1:58:14] it's satisfactory, I'd love to

[1:58:15] invite our city engineer up to

[1:58:17] give you an update on really the

[1:58:18] two items, one being the swap

[1:58:20] with sarasota county on deer

[1:58:22] town gully and curry creek.

[1:58:24] The second being the private

[1:58:25] maintenance discussion on the

[1:58:34] sawgrass section.

[1:58:34] >>Mayor Pachota: he's already up

[1:58:40] here and ready to go.

[1:58:41] >> good morning, mayor and

[1:58:42] council.

[1:58:46] For the record, jon kramer, city

[1:58:46] engineer.

[1:58:49] I do have some exhibits for the

[1:58:57] overhead.

[1:59:00] As a reminder, you're probably

[1:59:03] familiar with this exhibit, this

[1:59:07] is showing the patchwork

[1:59:08] fractured nature of maintenance

[1:59:11] for curry creek and blackburn

[1:59:11] canal.

[1:59:13] There are several segments here

[1:59:15] that have different entities

[1:59:18] responsible for their

[1:59:18] maintenance.

[1:59:20] Some sections, there is a

[1:59:21] different entity on the north

[1:59:25] side and the south side of the

[1:59:26] creek.

[1:59:27] The city is responsible for the

[1:59:30] portion of the yellow and green

[1:59:33] portions of curry creek.

[1:59:37] In an effort to consolidate the

[1:59:40] maintenance, city staff begun a

[1:59:43] conversation with county staff

[1:59:44] to transfer this portion of

[1:59:47] curry creek from city

[1:59:50] responsibility to county, and in

[1:59:52] return, the city would take the

[1:59:58] responsibility for deer town

[2:00:02] gully.

[2:00:04] This is the portion that the

[2:00:06] city is responsible for

[2:00:08] maintenance of curry creek that

[2:00:10] we would like to transfer to the

[2:00:11] county.

[2:00:13] Through that discussion, we

[2:00:15] recognized that this would also

[2:00:17] be an opportunity to resolve

[2:00:19] some right-of-way segments and

[2:00:22] easements that were never

[2:00:24] transferred in the 2014 road

[2:00:26] transfer agreement between

[2:00:27] sarasota county and the city,

[2:00:30] but were probably believed to

[2:00:35] have been at the time.

[2:00:36] This exhibit -- and I have one

[2:00:38] more -- is showing the easements

[2:00:40] and right-of-way that the city

[2:00:42] would assume from the county.

[2:00:45] And in here, we have deer town

[2:00:48] gully, the unimproved beach

[2:00:52] road, unimproved circle drive,

[2:00:56] unimproved sunset drive, circle

[2:01:00] drive north of short road, and

[2:01:02] unimproved alleyway in the cross

[2:01:05] wind landings easements.

[2:01:07] In addition, the city would like

[2:01:10] to take maintenance of this

[2:01:13] easement portion of flamingo

[2:01:13] ditch.

[2:01:14] We would like to be able to

[2:01:19] maintain that.

[2:01:20] City staff have worked with the

[2:01:24] city attorney's office to draft

[2:01:25] an interlocal agreement for

[2:01:27] consideration by the county

[2:01:29] staff and then presentation to

[2:01:32] city council and the county

[2:01:33] commission.

[2:01:35] This now, since we're looking at

[2:01:37] road right-of-ways as well as

[2:01:38] drainage right-of-ways and

[2:01:40] easements, this is going to

[2:01:42] require input from the county's

[2:01:45] stormwater and transportation

[2:01:46] departments.

[2:01:48] They have notified us that the

[2:01:49] earliest they might consider

[2:01:51] this would be the end of this

[2:01:56] calendar year.

[2:01:59] Now, I'm sure you're also

[2:02:03] familiar with the portion of

[2:02:07] curry creek within sawgrass that

[2:02:10] is maintained by sawgrass.

[2:02:15] This has been about a ten-year

[2:02:15] discussion.

[2:02:18] And we did receive the recent

[2:02:23] correspondence from the attorney

[2:02:25] with sawgrass questioning the

[2:02:27] maintenance responsibility of

[2:02:28] that portion.

[2:02:31] Our city attorney has responded

[2:02:33] and there's been no change to

[2:02:37] city staff's position that

[2:02:38] sawgrass is the responsible

[2:02:47] entity.

[2:02:51] There are currently no

[2:02:53] discussions with sawgrass about

[2:02:55] the city potentially assuming

[2:02:58] some maintenance o this

[2:02:58] portion.

[2:03:01] If council directs staff, we can

[2:03:04] initiate some sort of

[2:03:04] discussion.

[2:03:07] I'd like to point out that

[2:03:09] council MAY not hear requests to

[2:03:13] assume maintenance of private

[2:03:14] infrastructure very often.

[2:03:15] But in the engineering

[2:03:17] stormwater department, we get

[2:03:20] these requests several times a

[2:03:20] week.

[2:03:22] We did analysis, and if you look

[2:03:25] at the lane miles of roads

[2:03:28] with the cit t city I

[2:03:29] respsible for the maienance

[2:03:31] of less analf the roads

[2:03:32] within t city.

[2:03:35] E rest are private roads,

[2:03:37] d-maintain roads, county

[2:03:38] ros, state roa.

[2:03:42] And in addition, we don't have a

[2:03:44] good number of the private

[2:03:46] ormwater infrastructe, but

[2:03:49] we believe alsohe city I

[2:03:52] responsible for aboutalf or

[2:03:54] less of e stormwar

[2:03:56] infrasucture within city

[2:03:58] limi.

[2:04:02] If city sff were to start

[2:04:02] mainining private

[2:04:04] infrasucture, that would

[2:04:06] generay require an incree in

[2:04:08] our stormwer assessments.

[2:04:10] So city staff's position, whe

[2:04:13] 're asked to maintainrivate

[2:04:15] infrastrucre is not to

[2:04:19] recommd approval b council I

[2:04:19] neral.

[2:04:21] However,his is aolicy

[2:04:24] decisionhat is up to cncil.

[2:04:27] Council directsity staff,

[2:04:29] we can look into some sor of

[2:04:31] intenance agreement with

[2:04:34] sawgrass.

[2:04:36] Mayor Pachota: does that

[2:04:38] conclude your presentation?

[2:04:39] >>Jon Kramer: yes.

[2:04:40] >>Mayor Pachot we'll start

[2:04:43] with MS. Fra.

[2:04:44] >>Rachel Frank: ank you so

[2:04:46] muchor refreing our memory

[2:04:48] on countversusity vsus

[2:04:49] privately matained.

[2:04:51] First, quick aside I'm

[2:04:52] thrilled that we asked the

[2:04:54] county about potentily taking

[2:04:55] over maintenancef what I wou

[2:04:58] call -- what d you call I

[2:05:00] golden bch unit 2asement,

[2:05:04] north hibiscu poinsettia.

[2:05:05] That would be aming to have

[2:05:06] at within city control,

[2:05:07] obviously, becau we are all

[2:05:08] well aware of what that

[2:05:10] neighborhood went tough wit

[2:05:11] the storm two years ago.

[2:05:13] So to have the accountability

[2:05:15] th usnd not with the county,

[2:05:18] think wou be a win for the

[2:05:20] residentin that area.

[2:05:22] That's wonderful

[2:05:24] in regards tcurry cre, I

[2:05:27] hear you loudnd clear that if

[2:05:29] multip times a week the city

[2:05:33] staff has to tell individuals,

[2:05:35] no, we'r notoing to aume

[2:05:37] publicnfrastructure, whether

[2:05:43] that's roa, pipes, et cetera

[2:05:45] wean't withoutramatically

[2:05:48] creasing our budget.

[2:05:50] So I would like a ltle bit

[2:05:52] morelarity on -- youre the

[2:05:54] engineernot us.

[2:05:57] Is there any broader public

[2:05:59] benefit to pottially

[2:06:02] maintaining th sawgrass section

[2:06:02] of cry creek?

[2:06:04] Just talk to me a lite more in

[2:06:06] deil abouthe wer flow in

[2:06:07] that aa.

[2:06:08] Obviously, the resents are

[2:06:10] very concerned about flooding

[2:06:12] after all that we've endured

[2:06:13] over the lastwo years as a

[2:06:14] city.

[2:06:15] Can youalk to me a little bit

[2:06:17] about the water flow in that

[2:06:21] area and the dynamics of the

[2:06:22] sawgrassrivately owned and

[2:06:24] maintained poron?

[2:06:24] >>Jon Krer: sure.

[2:06:26] If weo bk to thexhibit,

[2:06:28] you'll note that thisortion of

[2:06:31] curry creek within sawgrasss

[2:06:34] in the middle of the curry creek

[2:06:35] conveyance

[2:06:38] obviously, any obsuction in

[2:06:41] that ption or any area

[2:06:43] downream could cause potential

[2:06:45] issues for residen outside of

[2:06:51] sawgrass.

[2:06:53] Weave had disssnshat

[2:06:57] dungn appved stat of

[2:06:59] emerncy, ifhere is som

[2:07:01] obstruion in th areor any

[2:07:04] othearea of rry creek o

[2:07:06] blacurn canal,he city or

[2:07:07] countyould likel do whater

[2:07:10] itakes toesolve tha

[2:07:13] emergencyituations, don't

[2:07:14] think therwill b aone

[2:07:15] questiing who iesponsible

[2:07:16] for thaintenance

[2:07:18] it wl reay be whoan get

[2:07:20] there fst and resve tha

[2:07:22] I ullike t point o tt

[2:07:24] theortion ocuyreek

[2:07:27] wiin sawgrs ino lge a

[2:07:28] naral chne

[2:07:30] eris a bdge there

[2:07:34] ther a hous tha are

[2:07:37] jant to cuy creek there

[2:07:40] d iouncil were condeng

[2:07:43] maintain ts poron sff

[2:07:45] ulecmendhathis aa

[2:07:50] be broug u to cit sndards

[2:07:52] thatoune mntenan b

[2:07:53] peormed er

[2:07:54] er are se erosi sts

[2:07:56] whh y thrte hom tha w

[2:07:58] woul wt toee repre

[2:07:59] fore wwod asse

[2:08:01] matence ofha

[2:08:02] >>Rach Fnk: vy helpf.

[2:08:04] Thk u.

[2:08:07] >>MayoPaota: m hard.

[2:08:09] >>ck Howd:hanks, mor.

[2:08:11] Thks, jon.

[2:08:13] On the sam I gue,in

[2:08:15] myolagueser tki

[2:08:17] out, ihi the's

[2:08:18] definily pubcenit.

[2:08:22] And ve alws-t s my

[2:08:24] tion, em le mons ago,

[2:08:26] dectedndouil

[2:08:28] animouy pporteirting

[2:08:31] merant dolrs tgolear

[2:08:32] ou mightavbeen posia

[2:08:36] if m memy svese

[2:08:36] coectly.

[2:08:40] And ihi ttacl was

[2:08:44] ucng on tt, is t

[2:08:45] streamrorties.

[2:08:49] Sof curryrer in t

[2:08:52] sarass stier toecome

[2:08:54] cled, tn a of t

[2:08:56] prertiesottiallypstrea

[2:08:58] fromhaould pential

[2:08:59] fld.

[2:09:00] So thinkhe is publi

[2:09:01] benefi

[2:09:02] and thk wn all

[2:09:06] ppted wte uldoor

[2:09:10] flingo dch I bie that

[2:09:11] wasomeefitelyubc

[2:09:14] net in ttreoo,

[2:09:15] beus floodgas not

[2:09:18] rericted jus tthe sid of

[2:09:22] flamin dch

[2:09:25] if the opini that --

[2:09:27] mean, d't kno wn I c

[2:09:29] ke mion, b se

[2:09:30] pot, tnk tha my wish

[2:09:33] wouldehawe wld bicly

[2:09:36] -- e need torotect t cy,

[2:09:38] bu it'seally alowss,

[2:09:38] gh

[2:09:42] wto make surhatha

[2:09:44] ibary,ha outow a t

[2:09:45] way he gulof mic ner

[2:09:49] opslong.

[2:09:51] Don'thi -- nd I'veeen

[2:09:52] woinwith -- orking-

[2:09:55] talkin withhe ridents and

[2:09:57] . Carrnd oer f two

[2:09:58] yes, I tnk

[2:10:01] it flsike th I o of th

[2:10:02] ggt cans we' kke dn

[2:10:03] e road

[2:10:04] I wod rll like see

[2:10:06] ge resve

[2:10:07] d don'thi thatt'

[2:10:10] unasonab tmake sehat

[2:10:16] t cmunity ofawgras is

[2:10:18] lling flosome o yr

[2:10:19] suestion wit thean, the

[2:10:23] shing up the erosion, the

[2:10:24] city's responsibility would be

[2:10:25] simply make sure that the water

[2:10:27] is still flowing, so that we

[2:10:30] don't worry about upstream

[2:10:33] flooding would certainly be my

[2:10:33] wish.

[2:10:35] Thank you, mayor.

[2:10:39] >>Mayor Pachota: MR. Smith.

[2:10:43] N Smh: t you m.

[2:10:45] Thanyou fothatept.

[2:10:47] Imeallxcitedbout I

[2:10:49] anthk you for your

[2:10:52] intation to uso give the

[2:10:54] stdirection to tr to reach

[2:10:57] an agree wit sawgrass to

[2:10:59] take over the routine

[2:11:02] maintenance he provisos

[2:11:04] that y indicated.

[2:11:05] I want to talk a little

[2:11:08] about tha but als t

[2:11:10] say r off, I'm so happy

[2:11:13] hear what you said about

[2:11:15] flamin ditch and theoad

[2:11:19] trades as wi've been wanting to make

[2:11:20] trade of maintenance of

[2:11:22] creek for maintenan of

[2:11:23] deer town gully for a whi

[2:11:25] you'v been working it

[2:11:27] r a while.

[2:11:30] So it wo be less

[2:11:30] con.

[2:11:36] And the m you jus

[2:11:38] cinches it.

[2:11:40] Thatanity.

[2:11:42] Ea littleained by

[2:11:43] a differenty.

[2:11:44] So t idea of let the county

[2:11:46] hat creek we'll take this

[2:11:48] creek is aderfulort.

[2:11:49] You saye might be able to

[2:11:51] it off by the end o the year,

[2:11:54] fantastic.

[2:11:57] But ien I ask a just

[2:11:59] th cur creek update,t

[2:12:01] we're als making pro there

[2:12:04] flamingo ditch.I don't know th the flamingo

[2:12:05] ditcghbors were aware

[2:12:06] that you were tryio

[2:12:08] ke that effort take that

[2:12:09] over.

[2:12:13] I know they complainede

[2:12:19] city, why iss culvert underthe road clogg up? We

[2:12:21] wellon't mai that

[2:12:21] area.

[2:12:23] And they shouldn't hav to deal

[2:12:23] with that.

[2:12:25] Theye in they.

[2:12:26] They should he city is

[2:12:27] maintathe cs in that

[2:12:29] area.

[2:12:30] Ey have been frustrated

[2:12:31] thatborhood tha we can

[2:12:33] only do h rightow, and

[2:12:34] we put some of things into

[2:12:38] the planor27, some for '29,

[2:12:39] some for '31.

[2:12:41] Sounds like byhe end ofhe

[2:12:43] ye that could be a little

[2:12:45] piece that's of very

[2:12:51] mplicated situation.I love all of that.

[2:12:53] I do want t say this.

[2:12:54] E presentation-I apologize

[2:12:59] to MR. C that we made himtake twoive-minute public

[2:13:02] speakingtunities to give

[2:13:03] us a presentation that w maybe

[2:13:06] seven or eig minutes long.

[2:13:07] I ize because I could h

[2:13:08] made a motion give

[2:13:10] more time, finish it in

[2:13:12] his first anceere.

[2:13:13] In we sent him off.

[2:13:16] But he was speaking, he doe

[2:13:18] live sawgrass.

[2:13:23] Was speaking on behalf organization that represents

[2:13:26] unity associations a

[2:13:26] ho

[2:13:28] he waspeaking for theentral

[2:13:28] nice coalition.

[2:13:30] Got to tellnk

[2:13:32] that'st imp civic

[2:13:33] organization in thity to

[2:13:39] lio.It's enormous coali

[2:13:41] e was here to pre on

[2:13:45] bef rea t whole

[2:13:46] regit we need do

[2:13:48] something abory creek and

[2:13:49] the city needs to gete

[2:13:50] business of maintaining

[2:13:52] portio that goesough

[2:13:53] wgrass.

[2:13:55] Of cou he educated u b

[2:13:58] alganey, the

[2:14:00] rney for saw I bel

[2:14:03] that'sct, ed us a

[2:14:08] our cityney took aong

[2:14:10] position in contrast t m

[2:14:11] morganey, said, no, we

[2:14:13] don't anyigation,

[2:14:16] unless wh to have that

[2:14:16] obligati

[2:14:17] myent should wish

[2:14:20] that obligation.

[2:14:23] I like ben argument, I

[2:14:28] evengree wm, if he wentfor artision, MAY get a

[2:14:29] claratory judgmenthat

[2:14:32] maintaining thats

[2:14:33] responsibili

[2:14:36] he also told them costhem

[2:14:37] $75,00 bring t suit to

[2:14:39] try it.

[2:14:43] We shouldn't be requiring our

[2:14:44] neighb and ouridents to

[2:14:47] sue us get what seems lik a

[2:14:54] civic action that we w want.We point to, I'm sure theity

[2:14:55] rney correctly point t

[2:14:58] old document seem

[2:15:00] te, although dispute

[2:15:04] it weon't have to beresponsible for that.

[2:15:08] Tells us we should.Because as theirorney points

[2:15:12] oure are 42 bodiesfwater grass.

[2:15:14] Ey are responsiblen their

[2:15:17] mind for 40 of them.

[2:15:19] Only ones they say they are not

[2:15:21] sponsible for islackburn

[2:15:22] nal curryek.

[2:15:24] The reaso is,se bodf

[2:15:29] waart o of sawgrass,

[2:15:31] tracross sawgrass and then

[2:15:33] through all kinds o other

[2:15:37] erties to dump into the

[2:15:38] that makes I a very

[2:15:40] diff son than

[2:15:44] drainage pon on their pro

[2:15:47] they I u those t

[2:15:50] crs part o our stormwater

[2:15:52] system.

[2:15:54] And to say, we don't have

[2:15:56] to maintain tha piece bec

[2:15:58] it's onour property sort of

[2:16:01] unique pnhat we're

[2:16:03] ta because theseies of

[2:16:07] teron't usually

[2:16:08] throug community.

[2:16:10] Th usually like on the

[2:16:10] border.

[2:16:12] Are right the border of

[2:16:13] bay indi

[2:16:15] not in bay indies on

[2:16:17] th border, that type of thing

[2:16:20] this has been a long-standing

[2:16:20] oblem.

[2:16:23] Many, ma years.

[2:16:26] And even if we had good

[2:16:28] argument n toain it

[2:16:31] years ago, theituation has

[2:16:32] changed because w approve all

[2:16:35] ki ofopment along aubur

[2:16:38] , both sidesf fox lea

[2:16:39] rms.

[2:16:40] Approved all development

[2:16:42] up b hospital u there on

[2:16:44] curry lanehat's created

[2:16:45] ng in that area.

[2:16:48] Situations more sev

[2:16:52] than it' ever b I terms othe damage of that creek backi

[2:16:59] could do t pies.So ive it's incumbent

[2:17:03] toe an agreementh

[2:17:03] sawgrass.

[2:17:06] Hopefulhat c is

[2:17:08] g to direct the staff a

[2:17:11] your invitation, to wth

[2:17:13] sa on angreement take

[2:17:16] over rountenancef

[2:17:16] rry creek.

[2:17:21] I wa thank again steve carr

[2:17:22] r his representatio us,

[2:17:24] ng to educate u on it and

[2:17:25] the problem.

[2:17:27] And d addre it as a

[2:17:28] il.

[2:17:29] So thank.

[2:17:32] >>Pachota:r.Ngelke.

[2:17:33] >>Kegelke: thank you.

[2:17:36] Cue, smith and

[2:17:38] agree fundaly on

[2:17:40] just a everythin was

[2:17:41] presen

[2:17:43] I'm going a lot

[2:17:43] words.

[2:17:46] Steve, thaor your wor

[2:17:50] d secondly, with thern

[2:17:52] gully, it'st of the city.

[2:17:54] And I don't t that it sh

[2:17:57] be diffeted between county

[2:17:59] and city, especia something

[2:18:00] like that, that's clearly wit

[2:18:01] the its.

[2:18:04] Which leads u to curry creek,

[2:18:07] and not just saw buthe

[2:18:08] ole area.

[2:18:10] Do understands

[2:18:12] position regar cleaning

[2:18:14] culverts that typef thi

[2:18:16] but to me, this little bit

[2:18:17] bigger tha jus saw

[2:18:19] it rea is fro the beginning

[2:18:20] end.

[2:18:23] Love the idea where we can

[2:18:25] make its seamless as pos

[2:18:27] ng some stuff to the county

[2:18:30] d taking some stuffe

[2:18:31] city.

[2:18:33] W, that being said, I very,

[2:18:34] very concerned a any

[2:18:35] pol liabilities that the

[2:18:37] city might picking upthe

[2:18:39] event of, hey,

[2:18:43] someand it's notone

[2:18:44] perfectltandards have

[2:18:48] ged or, whatever, we have

[2:18:49] the responsibili paying

[2:18:53] r a lot of wet houses.I am very, concerned wit

[2:18:54] that

[2:18:57] but do understand tha the

[2:19:00] need to look at this as jus

[2:19:01] being sawg but s to

[2:19:07] finish o whole waterwasawgrass in the central venice

[2:19:09] ion, they have don lot

[2:19:10] of work this.

[2:19:11] Ow they has don lot

[2:19:13] w on this thing.

[2:19:14] What I would l to do is bring

[2:19:17] tion,be a little

[2:19:18] premfor a motion in terms

[2:19:19] ur discu but an

[2:19:22] that w eally dir

[2:19:26] city staff to e

[2:19:27] central ven coaliti

[2:19:30] becaus just a sawgrass

[2:19:33] e, and withass, maybe

[2:19:35] rkinge wit cen venice

[2:19:38] coalition to comeo an

[2:19:40] agt onwe can and

[2:19:42] ot do.

[2:19:46] Mr, I sure if it's

[2:19:48] time for a motion.

[2:19:49] N Smith: and a second.

[2:19:50] Mayor Pachota: not t for

[2:19:50] ei

[2:19:51] still have t peoplee

[2:19:53] list t talk.

[2:19:55] Ce mayor.

[2:19:56] Vice Mayor Boldt: thou.

[2:19:58] T torolong this, but my

[2:19:59] memory is as goo as it used

[2:20:02] to so mayd a little

[2:20:02] help

[2:20:04] iteems to m the last

[2:20:07] of years, we worki

[2:20:11] with sawtrying to do a

[2:20:14] rezoning.

[2:20:16] The history of sawgrass, if yo

[2:20:20] go back aittle bit, m memoryagain is nhat great, it

[2:20:21] s county.

[2:20:22] It was

[2:20:24] it wasy, it was c

[2:20:25] there was t back forth

[2:20:28] thhink that went o

[2:20:29] tely, we to

[2:20:30] compromi I seem to r

[2:20:33] on what weanted to versus

[2:20:34] what we ultim

[2:20:36] but what I'ming to say is I

[2:20:39] feel like cty of

[2:20:41] rass got stuck inhe middle

[2:20:43] this whing.

[2:20:47] So there I of fingepointing goingo who

[2:20:49] should b taking care of

[2:20:51] the easies to resol all

[2:20:53] of that is to, hey,t's

[2:20:54] yourem.

[2:20:56] Eems to be wherere.

[2:20:58] I completelee wit m

[2:20:59] colleagues up h that a

[2:21:01] saying it flows through

[2:21:04] ity, it affects other

[2:21:06] areas stormwater within the

[2:21:09] city, we don't take care

[2:21:10] it, st toe degree, I

[2:21:12] we delp tre of it,

[2:21:13] we can bigger probl than

[2:21:15] werted out with.

[2:21:21] So I am an advocate fortartingsome negotiations with regard to

[2:21:24] t separatehis and h to

[2:21:28] putomenfluence on oeor the other so that 't

[2:21:29] have t worut this

[2:21:30] fo

[2:21:31] thank you.

[2:21:35] >>Mayor Pachota:eed.

[2:21:36] >>Lloyd thank you.

[2:21:38] Jold you p the map

[2:21:39] ag for me, pleas

[2:21:42] I have questions about the map.

[2:21:44] >>Jon Kramer: the overall one.

[2:21:46] >>Lloyd Weed: there legendons.

[2:21:47] The yellowection isrently

[2:21:48] maintainedhe city of

[2:21:49] veis that correct?

[2:21:51] Jon Kramer: yellow green.

[2:21:53] Lloyd Weed: yellow green.

[2:21:53] Okay.

[2:21:54] We are looking fhe

[2:21:58] unty toake over themaintenance of yellow andn?

[2:22:00] >>Jon Kramrrect.

[2:22:01] D Weed: okay.

[2:22:04] also, the words

[2:22:05] curry creek canal, ts gray

[2:22:07] and black.Who has responsib for the

[2:22:11] grayhe blarea, in t

[2:22:12] area?

[2:22:13] Jon Kramer: there I a legend

[2:22:16] goes with this that

[2:22:17] rtunately I did not print

[2:22:20] he city.

[2:22:22] Lloyd Weed: the city.

[2:22:22] Okay.

[2:22:26] Ghter]

[2:22:33] My concern I have many,

[2:22:35] maifferentroup wking on

[2:22:38] differenarts of cuy creek

[2:22:40] and blaburn canal.

[2:22:42] 'reoong a tnsfeing

[2:22:43] e mntenan respoibilies

[2:22:46] tohe gre and the yellow to

[2:22:48] the county in ehae r us

[2:22:50] ki or dr townul,

[2:22:51] which ave no pblemh.

[2:22:52] But at the sa tim we'

[2:22:56] log aturer cplatin

[2:23:00] byaking,heit vic

[2:23:00] tangr eec tt

[2:23:02] go tou cry cek,hich

[2:23:05] us lehain one

[2:23:06] patchwork quilt for another.

[2:23:10] I don't know if there's any

[2:23:11] possibility of negotiating with

[2:23:15] the county to take over the

[2:23:16] sawgrass portions, that they

[2:23:19] have that entire run under their

[2:23:20] responsibility rather than just

[2:23:21] moving this patchwork quilt

[2:23:24] around.

[2:23:26] >>Jon Kramer: if council directs

[2:23:28] staff to look into maintaining

[2:23:30] this portion, city staff would

[2:23:33] likely talk to county staff

[2:23:34] about having the county perform

[2:23:36] the maintenance in that portion

[2:23:40] and city MAY fund that

[2:23:43] maintenance.

[2:23:46] As just a point of reference,

[2:23:49] right now, our last maintenance

[2:23:52] contract, city paid about $1.55

[2:23:56] per linear foot to maintain the

[2:23:58] banks of the curry creek

[2:24:01] portions we're responsible for.

[2:24:03] If council would like us to look

[2:24:04] into maintaining that, we would

[2:24:07] likely ask the county to perform

[2:24:13] the maintenance and fund that.

[2:24:14] >>Lloyd Weed: thank you for

[2:24:17] clarifying.

[2:24:18] >>Mayor Pachota: all right.

[2:24:20] I'm last on the list and then

[2:24:22] we'll go back around for round

[2:24:22] two.

[2:24:24] My biggest concern is just like

[2:24:26] everything else that's come our

[2:24:32] way, flamingo ditch, curry lane,

[2:24:34] gene green road, all the

[2:24:36] different parcels, there's a

[2:24:37] funding component.

[2:24:38] Millions of dollars to do these

[2:24:41] things, and when the development

[2:24:42] begins, they have the

[2:24:44] opportunity to bring it up to

[2:24:46] standard and present it to us as

[2:24:48] us taking that over and the city

[2:24:50] could take over if wanted to.

[2:24:51] Millions of dollars need to be

[2:24:53] spent and curry lane is best

[2:24:55] example, to bring it up to

[2:24:57] standard before we take it over.

[2:24:59] I pause here with all this

[2:24:59] discussion.

[2:25:00] Yes, of course, I'd love for us

[2:25:02] to maintain it and make sure it

[2:25:03] gets done, but at the same time,

[2:25:05] I would need to see the costs

[2:25:07] associated with us being

[2:25:10] responsible, plus I vaguely

[2:25:12] remember with the flamingo ditch

[2:25:13] discussions that anytime we take

[2:25:15] something over or take over the

[2:25:16] responsibility of the

[2:25:18] maintenance, we then become

[2:25:20] liable for any of the issues

[2:25:22] that develop later on or bank

[2:25:23] improvements or whatever it

[2:25:24] might be.

[2:25:26] So there is a lot of caution in

[2:25:28] my mind when we start talking

[2:25:29] about taking these things over,

[2:25:30] that the developer could have

[2:25:32] done that when they built this

[2:25:34] in the first place and chose not

[2:25:36] to do it for whatever the reason

[2:25:36] was.

[2:25:38] Now we'll have to take that on

[2:25:42] as a citywide taxpayer base.

[2:25:44] I'm not saying I'm against it.

[2:25:46] I'm saying I would need to see

[2:25:47] all of the financials involved

[2:25:48] and all of the legal

[2:25:50] ramifications involved in us

[2:25:51] taking responsibility of that.

[2:25:53] So when we do get to that point,

[2:25:57] I would love for those questions

[2:25:58] to be answered as we're moving

[2:26:01] forward with this discussion.

[2:26:02] MS. Frank, you're next and then

[2:26:05] MR. Engelke.

[2:26:06] >>Rachel Frank: yes, to my

[2:26:07] colleague, MR. Weed's question,

[2:26:09] I pulled up the e-mail from MR.

[2:26:10] Carr and it stated that the

[2:26:12] black line is sarata county

[2:26:14] owned d maiained, andhe

[2:26:16] ay portions wer privately

[2:26:17] neand mntaid.

[2:26:19] Sohe is lile b of

[2:26:19] ffercehe

[2:26:23] t molle, MAY

[2:26:27] pot about the economic

[2:26:33] realities associated with new

[2:26:33] matenance respsibilities,

[2:26:35] that was why I questioned our

[2:26:36] fina director about the

[2:26:38] overall state of our stormwater

[2:26:40] nd which at rs ge

[2:26:42] appes e to ben very

[2:26:45] healthy on, which would

[2:26:46] warrat least a

[2:26:48] igation to the ongoing

[2:26:50] nuaintenanceost for this

[2:26:54] sawgraoroncurryreek.For tnsrency, if o

[2:26:55] ormwater f w dtrsed

[2:26:57] andtouse iia

[2:26:59] ineas to our swar fee

[2:27:01] ate pass along to o full

[2:27:03] tax base, I would hav more

[2:27:04] coern.

[2:27:06] Bu I appears at firstoo we

[2:27:08] ght be I a healtla a

[2:27:10] have theacy.

[2:27:13] ouoi, I wraurer

[2:27:15] arassociat wh iul

[2:27:16] spency o that.

[2:27:17] >>Mayor chamr engel

[2:27:19] Ken Engelkha you.

[2:27:22] You mon aritrt,

[2:27:23] 5 r leaoo

[2:27:25] atould t tnslate tf

[2:27:28] we we tpick up that

[2:27:29] spsibility t area tt

[2:27:34] we tking abo?

[2:27:36] 55,000, 00

[2:27:37] n amer: roin

[2:27:39] manae of thatoron

[2:27:43] wod be about0,0 a yr.

[2:27:43] >>Ken gelke: I rlly,

[2:27:46] ha to say, b a

[2:27:49] ingnicant amelative to

[2:27:50] th9 llion, wter we

[2:27:54] ven t rerve for

[2:27:57] I do contie to stress t

[2:27:58] ci'siability thate'

[2:28:02] piing up,ut'merinly in

[2:28:04] favo oftartinghe proce

[2:28:05] MR. Ma y'll le ow

[2:28:07] when c mak a motion.

[2:28:08] >>MayoPaota: reaheyou

[2:28:09] sir.

[2:28:09] Ken Engelk: ank you

[2:28:11] I wouldik to makio

[2:28:12] fothe city cou t

[2:28:14] auore the ci mag t

[2:28:17] me withrentativesfhe

[2:28:18] sawgraomnity andhe

[2:28:20] centvece clion to

[2:28:21] vep a pn for they

[2:28:23] vece to pvi geral

[2:28:24] maintenatohe sectif

[2:28:27] currek ttlo through

[2:28:30] eawass cni.

[2:28:30] >> sd.

[2:28:31] >>viEngelke:gn.

[2:28:34] Laughter

[2:28:38] keepingin t cits

[2:28:40] exposureddional

[2:28:41] liilies.

[2:28:41] Now do

[2:28:43] >>Ron Sm sond.

[2:28:44] >>Mayocha: MR. Cy

[2:28:45] mage

[2:28:46] >>mes Clin tnk you,

[2:28:47] mayor.

[2:28:48] Just waedo cla t

[2:28:50] ngge.

[2:28:51] We've b talki aut routine

[2:28:52] innance.

[2:28:53] Ihink theorused in

[2:28:57] motionas generaienance.

[2:28:58] Wean have flexili to

[2:29:00] brg backgreement the

[2:29:02] st imporntng which I

[2:29:04] hed from you alls tt w

[2:29:05] fi the sco of wt tha

[2:29:06] innance is a make se

[2:29:07] 's ver cle for ebo

[2:29:09] who is ihe room, wre not

[2:29:10] gog toe oside of tt

[2:29:13] sce cause th I a lot oprate infrtrture outhe

[2:29:16] atould be highollars.

[2:29:18] >>KeEnlke: I a wh

[2:29:19] your ierpretatn.

[2:29:20] Me backith wtever y fl

[2:29:21] appropri

[2:29:23] we've to the ball

[2:29:24] movi.

[2:29:24] >>mes Clin: ank you.

[2:29:26] >>Mayor cha: madamrk

[2:29:28] e do ha two speer

[2:29:29] jt wanted l you know.

[2:29:30] Mar Pachote' get

[2:29:31] e.

[2:29:32] Alright.

[2:29:34] So with tt, weav ppe

[2:29:35] mo a second.

[2:29:37] Wel go ahe and entertany

[2:29:39] speake, dam c, t

[2:29:39] time

[2:29:41] >>he firstpeaker ste

[2:29:41] carr.

[2:29:51] Has fivnus.

[2:29:53] >> good aernoon, MR. Mayornd

[2:29:56] ty councor

[2:30:00] thank foositivemments ouppo.

[2:30:01] It's c g ithat

[2:30:02] direion.

[2:30:03] Ai tha youery much.

[2:30:07] I r want givudos

[2:30:09] citanag jam cnch and

[2:30:13] astityanag rer

[2:30:15] enhir anve fmhe

[2:30:16] enneerin department.

[2:30:18] Hang the opportuty to do the

[2:30:18] transferf the stormwar ditch

[2:30:20] to bri them monder,

[2:30:22] especially outhatay, under

[2:30:25] the county's umbrell is rlly

[2:30:29] terrific and really is quit a

[2:30:32] nderful opportity thats

[2:30:35] w possible wit the county.

[2:30:36] Because as abody that's tried

[2:30:37] to wk with the cnty, it'

[2:30:39] most like the federal

[2:30:41] governmenthathe viceayor

[2:30:42] had mentied.

[2:30:44] It's really, really difficulto

[2:30:46] get a straigh answer, a

[2:30:47] really diffilt to get in the

[2:30:48] sameoom.

[2:30:49] Iseally is a terfic project

[2:30:52] that looks like it'soing to

[2:30:52] happen.

[2:30:54] The onlyther comnt oth

[2:30:56] than thaing, aga,

[2:30:57] unfortately, withinur

[2:30:59] press to prove projes, as

[2:31:02] MR. Mayorad mtioned, it

[2:31:04] rely stops a the developer

[2:31:06] agreement do the 25-ar

[2:31:08] stormwater dites to

[2:31:11] accommodatthe water that would

[2:31:13] be disaced by not having the

[2:31:14] counity there.

[2:31:16] That's whe it sto.

[2:31:18] There really isn't anyhought

[2:31:19] tohe amount of water that

[2:31:21] ows tard curry cre and

[2:31:24] otr places ce the is the

[2:31:25] storms a the pondsill up and

[2:31:26] e overflo

[2:31:28] that's the key.

[2:31:29] That's one part that isot

[2:31:31] nsidered in o process

[2:31:32] I'm nosure how we de with

[2:31:34] it, butt should be something

[2:31:35] that wreognizant of bause

[2:31:37] it does impact n only the

[2:31:38] curry creek area, t central

[2:31:40] venice area a all t

[2:31:43] businessesbut it is allround

[2:31:44] thcity.

[2:31:47] th's what ihink the

[2:31:47] floodplainanagement proct

[2:31:49] that the enginring departmt

[2:31:51] is startin to look a will,

[2:31:55] again, giv bigicture of how

[2:31:58] stormwat isandled in the

[2:31:58] city of vene.

[2:32:00] Again, the's been a lot of

[2:32:01] positive this, and I

[2:32:03] appreciate you time and your

[2:32:04] considerion through ahis.

[2:32:05] Than you.

[2:32:07] Excuse me,ne other thing.

[2:32:08] I think therere a number of

[2:32:09] sawgss people her today I

[2:32:11] would really le to tha them

[2:32:13] for coming o and hring this

[2:32:14] convertion.

[2:32:14] Anks.

[2:32:15] Mayor Pachota:hank you for

[2:32:16] your commes.

[2:32:17] Next saker.

[2:32:19] >> morgan bentley representing

[2:32:21] sawgra.

[2:32:22] I'll be sup brief.

[2:32:23] Weook forward to t

[2:32:23] convertion.

[2:32:25] 'll come up wh a great

[2:32:25] agreement.

[2:32:26] We think you'l like it.

[2:32:28] Your sta is great.

[2:32:29] >>Mayor chota: thank y for

[2:32:30] youromments.

[2:32:34] Is that all of our speakers?

[2:32:34] >>es.

[2:32:35] >>yor Pachota: a council

[2:32:36] scussion?

[2:32:36] Ay.

[2:32:38] Eing none, we' move to an

[2:32:38] ectronic vote.

[2:32:40] MADAM Clerk, when you' rea,

[2:32:42] make us ready f that process

[2:32:43] councilembers, whenour

[2:32:44] lights a flashing, y can

[2:32:49] indite your vote.

[2:32:50] All ght.

[2:32:51] Mada clerk, youan talnd

[2:32:52] display.

[2:32:55] Passesnanimously.

[2:32:56] [Sounding gel]

[2:32:57] [Plause]

[2:33:00] Thhat, weill take our

[2:33:01] execive session a comack

[2:33:57] [Unding gavel]

[2:33:59] >>Mayor Paa: allht.

[2:34:08] We're back.K you en thece foreing are o t6-0707

[2:34:12] thtus of lauadidenin projencludi

[2:34:13] ddinand revedine.

[2:34:14] . Sth, puton t

[2:34:16] , ifou cou bri

[2:34:24] introduce it

[2:34:27] Ron Smit tha you, mor.

[2:34:28] Ied for thi-ofoue,

[2:34:29] ve wee ago, dn't h I

[2:34:31] on the agenda yet.

[2:34:37] Ierstood therereomedeenitid

[2:34:39] ter bhat

[2:34:39] bac

[2:34:42] wtee ableoeport

[2:34:44] thato t p

[2:34:46] inder thas excde

[2:34:48] the f mon the city

[2:34:50] y commi, thetate had

[2:34:51] ady committ

[2:34:53] so I wand toet an update on

[2:34:56] th, ere we standnd what

[2:34:59] wi haveo happen if those

[2:35:01] ds exceed what we budted.

[2:35:03] >>Mayor chot MR. Clinch, do

[2:35:05] you havenythin on this top?

[2:35:06] Jamein:do

[2:35:09] ask m ker oit

[2:35:12] gine t be withecoun, h p

[2:35:16] te.

[2:35:17] N amodnoon,

[2:35:18] madounc

[2:35:20] fo the recr,ity

[2:35:22] engi.

[2:35:24] As you're awa laurel road

[2:35:28] dening is a publiprivate

[2:35:29] partnehip project maned by

[2:35:31] sarasota countand the laure

[2:35:32] roaddd.

[2:35:36] E prectas a million

[2:35:38] budgethalf from a state grant

[2:35:40] d lf mobilympt

[2:35:44] abouix a a h mli

[2:35:47] thatmoun wasnt on

[2:35:49] right -- waycquisi,

[2:35:51] leav9.5 milln

[2:35:56] constionthe bidhe pject

[2:35:57] ier thisear.

[2:36:00] Ey opene bids on MAY 22nd,

[2:36:03] d ahe bids wever the

[2:36:06] oject budtnd thedd

[2:36:07] rectedhe

[2:36:10] cddn worked wh t

[2:36:12] contto vuengin

[2:36:16] the ect t rede tuction cos

[2:36:19] theyke athis as

[2:36:23] itchhe pemenesign,

[2:36:25] th o srmwar

[2:36:31] pipethey switchem bding tprt aump sum to uni

[2:36:34] priceostsnd, mos

[2:36:36] importantl ty hav

[2:36:39] identifi a fill location

[2:36:42] the contracto.

[2:36:45] The cost o I ually

[2:36:46] nsiv but t

[2:36:49] trspti of fil is vy

[2:36:49] exnsiv

[2:36:50] some of esontracere

[2:36:54] lookg ring I flro

[2:36:55] adjant cous.

[2:36:59] An itilar, I d h an

[2:37:04] exhi can share o the

[2:37:05] overhead.

[2:37:10] The cdd h identied this

[2:37:13] existing pond sourc of

[2:37:13] fill.

[2:37:17] Thant to dig thi pond

[2:37:17] eper.

[2:37:21] Is inheloent t

[2:37:24] theiltl and

[2:37:25] randasposed.

[2:37:27] Sohistingond, ty wan

[2:37:29] digeeper whe

[2:37:31] isootpri, a t

[2:37:32] believthre wil a

[2:37:34] ion dolla savgs

[2:37:38] ing th pond a fil

[2:37:38] ca

[2:37:43] e c has readvti

[2:37:45] prec bid areuen

[2:37:47] PTrd

[2:37:47] theyxponstruio

[2:37:52] tivity tst lat

[2:37:55] candr.

[2:37:59] C awe anyuestio.

[2:38:00] Machota:r. Smi.

[2:38:01] Ron Smh: you.

[2:38:07] Nalkut tt

[2:38:09] excate f m

[2:38:12] nvironnt

[2:38:14] pas iom some

[2:38:15] lkre goi t be u

[2:38:17] wi?

[2:38:19] Jon Krer the lakeill n

[2:38:21] toered to

[2:38:22] r.

[2:38:23] I'veeeol tject

[2:38:25] ennet T.W.M.D

[2:38:27] peit thatake alled

[2:38:30] to beeper, a wne

[2:38:32] it wnally, they

[2:38:34] 't gosees pnn

[2:38:36] soig it deeril

[2:38:40] quire dewatin

[2:38:42] itl pyro a wer

[2:38:44] quitfit bing a

[2:38:47] pmal,ut I

[2:38:50] uldn'txp ide

[2:38:53] srmenuati

[2:38:53] befi

[2:38:56] if y ee aetdow

[2:38:57] theonel, the

[2:38:58] groundte justus I

[2:39:01] an thapace.

[2:39:03] Sohis dgi pondsee

[2:39:06] somhit I tic

[2:39:09] during cction

[2:39:10] od whe ton

[2:39:12] iginal b ccted,

[2:39:18] contraor more fl,ndth modyhemit tdi pd d

[2:39:20] 's ait unusu t

[2:39:23] diggging pdeebut iaveen t occ I

[2:39:29] past.

[2:39:30] >>Ron itnkou.

[2:39:31] F.W.M. I ot

[2:39:34] ap that?

[2:39:35] >>n: I'molha

[2:39:36] S.M.D. H ad I

[2:39:39] theyeot appli thecityo t.

[2:39:42] Ou a year aidve

[2:39:46] anppon whe wante

[2:39:51] -- he propodavatinhi

[2:39:52] weanion foill,nd w

[2:39:55] me ms whm.

[2:39:56] Ey whdhat appca

[2:39:58] dhahe tyec t

[2:40:00] rsue d y tsting

[2:40:02] dpe

[2:40:03] >>Ron itn thast

[2:40:07] me in d somin

[2:40:10] la, houghtha was

[2:40:13] publ, ow y'r sin

[2:40:14] re goi t dhi

[2:40:15] e road

[2:40:17] I wro?

[2:40:18] >>n: thenvironnt

[2:40:22] port tt ubmitt ttoate thietlandaid I

[2:40:24] s forhege at lael

[2:40:27] acct.

[2:40:28] Weubsequtl witth

[2:40:31] tant tm.Old u mista,

[2:40:32] thhis fl is needed f

[2:40:36] road.Theyhdrew acation

[2:40:38] to excave the wetnd

[2:40:40] n'urendi

[2:40:42] ap

[2:40:44] n h:.

[2:40:45] >>ot MS.

[2:40:48] Fnkncoup o yce

[2:40:49] la r I ts

[2:40:50] nt oet

[2:40:52] so yan rre memy.

[2:40:54] Inhe pcess,ou

[2:40:56] ned us hav I

[2:40:57] rebias tre any

[2:40:59] nversation or any cponts

[2:41:02] lkg ou the h

[2:41:05] siization orss

[2:41:08] from t vetianolf river

[2:41:08] cl.

[2:41:09] Waha mtionedalto

[2:41:11] hany cnge fm w it

[2:41:13] initiay bid now

[2:41:14] >>Jon as fs I know,

[2:41:17] th have en no ces to

[2:41:19] thatl situaon.

[2:41:20] Rachelrank:at, becse

[2:41:22] at w imporntspect

[2:41:24] the prect to me.

[2:41:28] , t n impt the

[2:41:30] murt dthat p of t

[2:41:34] projt, or tha separe?

[2:41:35] >>Jon Kramaureload

[2:41:37] projectludes the mt on t

[2:41:39] south f laureload.

[2:41:41] S f a I kno that

[2:41:44] tnged I thi rebid

[2:41:45] >>rankreat.

[2:41:47] I thi two ps will be

[2:41:48] ant theublico be

[2:41:50] awe ofausey wer

[2:41:52] pects of troject w

[2:41:52] hearfromiden we

[2:41:53] rtano t

[2:41:56] so I appreate yoularig

[2:42:00] at ourrentnderstandi thathere ino cha t

[2:42:03] -- two aspts of tha

[2:42:03] ad.

[2:42:05] U.

[2:42:09] Yor Paota: anyon

[2:42:11] al right.

[2:42:13] . Kramer, you f your

[2:42:13] time.

[2:42:13] Ecia y.

[2:42:15] Mrsmith, do h an

[2:42:17] it rel tohe imation

[2:42:23] you redo yaveotio

[2:42:24] >>Ron

[2:42:26] I wanted update.

[2:42:27] >>Mayor Pamadalerk

[2:42:29] wo't imane w anydy

[2:42:33] up sak.>> w not a I'm hg sometechl difculties.

[2:42:34] Yor Paota: okay.

[2:42:36] Wi there nootion,

[2:42:37] ne t do anhingre.

[2:42:44] So we'ove to 20708, and

[2:42:49] thiss mr.Th, ltinrmation re

[2:42:51] deloper's ato the city

[2:42:52] nings vlage

[2:42:53] develo ven

[2:42:57] hospite.

[2:42:58] Ith:s is sething I

[2:42:59] askut in the l

[2:43:00] meeting wook our bak

[2:43:01] fo s

[2:43:04] I wa anxio g t publi

[2:43:06] an u

[2:43:09] MR. Mudgas give muchf

[2:43:11] my upd sincethanuor t

[2:43:17] but I we to know frothe sff I t's any to

[2:43:18] knowincer thatast

[2:43:22] cil ing was in je and

[2:43:24] wh curress and

[2:43:26] at we caxpec behe

[2:43:28] neopme

[2:43:30] >>yor Pachot y to

[2:43:30] mrinch.

[2:43:32] Him anad a mh

[2:43:34] e fo

[2:43:36] imhimen with

[2:43:38] he'd l say

[2:43:39] >>Jas Clinch: u,

[2:43:40] r.

[2:43:41] Rtuny, a wle lot m

[2:43:44] t t heard MR.

[2:43:44] Mu

[2:43:46] were ableth

[2:43:49] theers back iddlefy.

[2:43:51] E mayor aith the

[2:43:52] andgnd zoning d

[2:43:54] roger claith them

[2:43:57] separatelytheent thateeting w

[2:43:59] to lowt ourules

[2:44:00] egulnsere for t

[2:44:01] ea, what t zoning

[2:44:02] iremen w den

[2:44:04] thet restions,nd

[2:44:05] thent pro would

[2:44:07] look liky dec to

[2:44:07] move forwa

[2:44:10] there very coopetive.

[2:44:12] Theymed very excbout

[2:44:14] the potect, they

[2:44:16] llowp, I belheyt

[2:44:23] responnce toouncile nexteekhome updat

[2:44:26] nderings ig therellin sca project

[2:44:29] wn t meet ourulesnd

[2:44:31] retions,lsooura.

[2:44:34] Ki ofcehat time,e have

[2:44:36] noard anythingm

[2:44:39] em, whichrobabl notood b at thipoint, but

[2:44:40] haveo applica o

[2:44:42] additirespnce to

[2:44:42] sh

[2:44:44] th you.

[2:44:47] Mayor chota: I'l add

[2:44:48] that,he meetingas

[2:44:51] reof me, and didn'

[2:44:53] re encouge oiscourage

[2:44:55] anhing other wha

[2:45:01] ent says.S tre moro liste to

[2:45:02] theyereng

[2:45:03] ide independe

[2:45:04] feed an indiv

[2:45:07] cil meer.

[2:45:09] Eyeemedyeptio

[2:45:12] workwithinurrente,

[2:45:15] not anythinouldotsid theurre

[2:45:18] boundari wwe hav

[2:45:24] butery, vere desig

[2:45:29] an ction ofngst

[2:45:31] would somey good usef

[2:45:33] telogy fir water use

[2:45:38] an energyse al, whiwasy impssive wit whatey wtryingo do t

[2:45:41] lnt oheir

[2:45:41] nesslage.

[2:45:43] That'sll I hav add

[2:45:45] anythi mr.Mith?

[2:45:46] >>n Smith: a don't h

[2:45:47] a on to make.

[2:45:48] I thk you theort.

[2:45:50] Iant to tel in

[2:45:51] yes as a couil member,

[2:45:52] been ae qions abo

[2:45:55] thatospinythin

[2:45:56] el

[2:45:59] I' appciate it if e a

[2:46:00] developm we cou be

[2:46:03] tohem rather than b

[2:46:05] work bhe back and

[2:46:06] three moert c to

[2:46:07] the cocil.

[2:46:10] Jus tknowere'ow something sitti in

[2:46:14] the ning departmen

[2:46:16] proposin mvely

[2:46:17] importanct her

[2:46:18] city.

[2:46:20] Hat pble?

[2:46:21] >>JameClinch:ely.

[2:46:22] Thats n proem.

[2:46:26] Y toet all ofou kno do ep gn

[2:46:27] apation thatroject

[2:46:28] r Paa: mad clerk,

[2:46:29] odyd up speakn

[2:46:31] ?

[2:46:31] We dnot.

[2:46:33] Mayochota: MS. Frank is

[2:46:35] youtton pushe tkr I

[2:46:36] just -- okay.

[2:46:38] Tecal dficulties.

[2:46:39] Al.

[2:46:42] E nextse.

[2:46:43] Da centeroratorium.

[2:46:44] Sicall I put thion the

[2:46:47] endaocuss really t

[2:46:50] conc oaving a suld

[2:46:51] thome, so ki of

[2:46:53] tting moratium togher so

[2:46:55] wean devop t plans

[2:46:56] andaredf when

[2:46:58] something ome to

[2:46:59] s noanyniti

[2:47:00] in city r thi

[2:47:02] but ant be unprepa

[2:47:03] th why I t t

[2:47:05] agenda.

[2:47:08] Mam clerk, do youavenybo

[2:47:09] gned up speak?

[2:47:09] O.

[2:47:11] >>Mayor let make a

[2:47:15] if the'scuss the

[2:47:23] we ce tiscussion.

[2:47:27] My motion t d s tobring backn oinance forn

[2:47:32] 18-monoriu ona

[2:47:37] ced-or timerame

[2:47:38] that is lellyible

[2:47:40] beuse I knoenatl 180

[2:47:41] is con

[2:47:43] ct sta tring backn

[2:47:44] ordinae8 month

[2:47:46] moraum onata cters or a

[2:47:48] fra that iegally

[2:47:49] sibl

[2:47:54] sey mr.Ard.Withhat, we'lln

[2:47:56] scussi.

[2:48:00] Mr

[2:48:01] >>Ron Smit you MR.

[2:48:02] Mayor.

[2:48:07] Ing e fohis

[2:48:10] moti becau I'm tol't

[2:48:12] have athing our ce

[2:48:13] essest, a need

[2:48:16] tio prepareome lanage

[2:48:19] fo our lanevelopntlation

[2:48:20] obvihata good thi

[2:48:22] do thahiss a

[2:48:27] natial scare thatemindse

[2:48:28] of2k.

[2:48:30] R an oeactio

[2:48:31] g wenowugh

[2:48:31] t.

[2:48:36] I've bn to sem overe sr o dat crs

[2:48:37] e itedo

[2:48:39] about dters

[2:48:43] muchf what p f is not

[2:48:47] rlity.Thegest thingt's

[2:48:49] is it iso thrt to

[2:48:55] r waterupply.Thepeaker h from mia

[2:48:58] is ofater the

[2:48:59] soutfloridaeragem

[2:49:03] strict saihis iot a

[2:49:04] concern.

[2:49:04] Egul

[2:49:07] ey hav to aermi fro

[2:49:09] , and we wil ge any of

[2:49:11] th permit way it' d

[2:49:13] toda is in closed

[2:49:15] systng wat

[2:49:18] speakerd think of a

[2:49:20] diator that'seingd over

[2:49:20] d over

[2:49:22] iaid k of a coong t

[2:49:24] nar plant

[2:49:26] at werk in and is

[2:49:29] recy and r

[2:49:36] and ts speaker thahee ofells in pe c

[2:49:37] whict have munic

[2:49:43] ter erywhere, I a big

[2:49:44] m thll ofhe

[2:49:46] nters thare thougbout

[2:49:49] and emplat inouthorid

[2:49:51] I sai o welt

[2:49:53] meeel a lit bter.

[2:49:55] Nexue com a, what

[2:49:55] outcity

[2:49:58] andn I'moldost

[2:50:00] mo ones e supplyiir

[2:50:05] doesn the power gri

[2:50:08] at all dow rel.

[2:50:10] Othe issue pollution

[2:50:11] nd use ishat what t

[2:50:14] for andf t

[2:50:16] we do ed to lane

[2:50:18] into our Ls.

[2:50:22] So I'm forion, but I

[2:50:23] ing peopl dow

[2:50:25] thyou.

[2:50:26] R Paa: mad att

[2:50:26] >>Kelly ndezank yo

[2:50:27] mayo

[2:50:28] ju anppenda tor mo

[2:50:30] and nt w smi,

[2:50:33] ju pc's cla,

[2:50:35] mon I leg

[2:50:36] ible matorium w

[2:50:37] able u toot jus p

[2:50:39] receiving ions allow

[2:50:40] the det oode

[2:50:42] ovisionshat crently d't

[2:50:43] have a spefic to

[2:50:46] cents.

[2:50:48] >> correctthat auallyhe spoint

[2:50:50] his o give us

[2:50:52] unito breat andeithomethi I c

[2:50:54] th addresses I

[2:50:56] eng.

[2:50:57] >>Kelke:nk you MR.

[2:50:59] R.

[2:51:03] Ipen agr with my

[2:51:08] e aeingeact dat.

[2:51:10] We don't kno but io the

[2:51:10] ea.

[2:51:15] Let's I t our land

[2:51:17] code and w outay.

[2:51:21] Justeep iteutraly

[2:51:24] objective se code oy,

[2:51:34] nother com thathanou.

[2:51:38] R Paa: oh,oy.

[2:51:39] Looks l ebody off

[2:51:41] th

[2:51:47] yei'll srize,ou kno that wel everythinthat we'ringm the

[2:51:49] scussionsundortht,

[2:51:50] rasota couund

[2:51:56] e is exactly t ihate technolos betthaneople rze, a the

[2:51:58] is aotf hyp oright

[2:51:59] now.

[2:52:03] So make tha our codes

[2:52:05] flect prop pis all

[2:52:06] I' looki to

[2:52:11] I tnk tortant becausetheris, a, not areashe cy youo this, but

[2:52:14] e arome aasoulddefinite out fm t

[2:52:16] resints.

[2:52:18] Therment let's

[2:52:20] goad and do aonic

[2:52:20] vo.

[2:52:23] Ma cle, w're ready.

[2:52:25] Actually,or, I'lle to

[2:52:27] roll calle bause

[2:52:27] something wite

[2:52:28] system.

[2:52:28] Mayochota:e let you

[2:52:30] erk fo aew a

[2:52:31] l of a sudholem

[2:52:34] dn.>> ts whatns w

[2:52:35] kelly le

[2:52:37] . Smith?

[2:52:39] >>h: y

[2:52:43] Lloyd Weed

[2:52:44] vin Enlke: yes.

[2:52:46] Rick Hard: yes.

[2:52:48] Frayes.

[2:52:49] Ce m Boldtyes.

[2:52:51] >>Mayor yes

[2:52:53] itasses una.

[2:52:55] [Sounng gavel]

[2:52:56] All

[2:52:59] we on t crter

[2:53:00] mpensaon.

[2:53:02] E have alanullock in

[2:53:02] ?

[2:53:03] We do.

[2:53:07] The hrectoouldike to

[2:53:09] come u a gettart on

[2:53:20] charterpensatn.

[2:53:20] Alan Bullodernoon

[2:53:22] r an couil.

[2:53:25] R recor a bullo, h

[2:53:26] direor for theity of ven

[2:53:28] we have three c offics,

[2:53:29] onm I our cit

[2:53:31] , another cit eyee.

[2:53:32] The other two areur city

[2:53:34] manager y clerk, b of

[2:53:38] re cityloyees

[2:53:42] it I witno

[2:53:44] , if y like, their

[2:53:45] compenypic would

[2:53:47] oer 1stlong with

[2:53:47] empls.

[2:53:50] Awaref colive

[2:53:52] ng pss tha

[2:53:55] foionizees,

[2:53:56] ainithat'sithin

[2:53:58] inistrion's rea but

[2:54:00] thls exclusive you.

[2:54:02] In my m

[2:54:03] have curamesnch,

[2:54:08] cityanager$217,500nnua

[2:54:09] base sal

[2:54:11] ke men, annua

[2:54:14] sala base I 164,052

[2:54:15] rrently.

[2:54:21] Supd youh w tonofnformation from our pee

[2:54:24] arnd the state aloh

[2:54:24] locapeers.

[2:54:25] She infmation bef

[2:54:26] today.

[2:54:27] Youave anyuestions,

[2:54:31] lgo ahe, please.>>MaPachot: any qfor MR.?

[2:54:34] Madamorney, your bn I

[2:54:34] stlhed.

[2:54:36] Oubt hions

[2:54:41] . Smith.

[2:54:43] >>Ron hank.

[2:54:45] First,g I say here, I

[2:54:48] want it bet's not a

[2:54:52] criticm offse three

[2:54:53] induals t of the pro,

[2:54:55] because fohreers -- s

[2:54:57] would be thi -- am

[2:54:59] not hay wit this ocess.

[2:55:04] Oncegain yrou sen me

[2:55:06] perforalua pap

[2:55:09] o oer council

[2:55:12] memb it is our practice

[2:55:16] not to evaehese peopljuo giv the a raise

[2:55:18] I tnk that'sista

[2:55:21] I'tou comt to

[2:55:23] keendings the

[2:55:24] ll outnd jt don'tl

[2:55:25] thut.

[2:55:29] Oted notill themut.

[2:55:30] Myxperience hat a

[2:55:32] sudent the schoo,

[2:55:33] xecutivend cy

[2:55:38] manar in parin any

[2:55:41] cityasndure very

[2:55:42] uncoortable pr a

[2:55:45] public dis ofir

[2:55:48] performa the to get a

[2:55:51] we coseo do t for

[2:55:52] our.

[2:55:54] I wantknow -- wou

[2:55:57] ree mehenodysheir fir y a

[2:55:59] posi it wod be ee

[2:56:03] portant to dvaluation,

[2:56:05] thorma perrmance

[2:56:06] evalon?

[2:56:06] >>Alan: gel

[2:56:08] emment tms, perio

[2:56:11] ght b sixrs or a mpendon theosition t

[2:56:13] e cyill bui I o

[2:56:16] positions, is

[2:56:18] with these cha offic

[2:56:19] posis.

[2:56:20] Nly woulde

[2:56:23] common pract.

[2:56:26] Smit wantoepeaagain,r.Nch hase great

[2:56:28] woor

[2:56:28] I'm rticularlyft

[2:56:32] he's don w us onudge

[2:56:35] hist budget.But think troceequire

[2:56:36] a perrmance eva

[2:56:38] ing of goa h and I

[2:56:40] d lio sees dot.

[2:56:43] Have ever don tt?

[2:56:44] E hen't done it in

[2:56:45] thre

[2:56:47] theast, howg isour

[2:56:49] and w e d

[2:56:50] Bul: heris m

[2:56:51] perience a bee t

[2:56:53] job sin008.

[2:56:55] I'een many cembe

[2:56:56] approaches this.

[2:56:58] Theeven elect offic

[2:56:59] t be twor perps t

[2:57:00] who areeres in d

[2:57:01] rformance evaluions for the

[2:57:02] chfice

[2:57:06] each h var reasofor to not

[2:57:09] to dt, out,

[2:57:10] commng nng wit it,

[2:57:11] whatev

[2:57:12] itd ofn p

[2:57:17] approachesi typxpect seeactual doing I a they MAY

[2:57:20] ay n have at

[2:57:23] rreln to pst s toe t

[2:57:25] iividual coembe

[2:57:26] approaches it.

[2:57:28] Staevel, have

[2:57:30] authy to tl you wha

[2:57:30] do.

[2:57:35] 's lefup to theuals

[2:57:37] Ron h: tha you for t

[2:57:38] want to asut t

[2:57:39] informate given us,

[2:57:41] ich is minim tms

[2:57:46] making t decision pay

[2:57:48] I'm vy uncfortable w

[2:57:51] arabthat you u

[2:57:53] ion o

[2:57:56] underhat whe p

[2:57:58] udy was de -- he pice

[2:58:00] udy, that police s

[2:58:05] ld userercos to cityf

[2:58:06] ven w bee

[2:58:07] discus presly wn

[2:58:08] evaluatishoulde

[2:58:09] ng pe.

[2:58:13] Is that co

[2:58:14] Bul: cou youeat

[2:58:16] questn,lease?

[2:58:18] N Sm didn'he polic

[2:58:23] study e diffent comparathanhate h pre

[2:58:24] Bul: yesthat's

[2:58:25] corr

[2:58:27] n Smit and iou

[2:58:31] told uhat were goin tow usehoseparabl that

[2:58:35] said ourparabl

[2:58:37] after their resh whenou

[2:58:39] ne wit our uni

[2:58:43] cause there t r

[2:58:45] compar ven ihat

[2:58:46] fa

[2:58:47] >>Alan Bult nsarily

[2:58:48] no.

[2:58:49] Thpara that

[2:58:51] picauseunio

[2:58:52] gotins are local peers,

[2:58:54] it wou be the citrth

[2:58:55] port, ngboat keyf

[2:58:57] rasota, et et ra.

[2:59:01] Th pe study usempars thatereparabl

[2:59:05] in ter policevice, irstat.

[2:59:08] That thi yea

[2:59:13] s moreved tgeneunion negotia

[2:59:20] y ctainly heempar trait

[2:59:23] ivent yo are

[2:59:28] intereheseeinged aparabl, I did taksomee yesterday t do

[2:59:28] re

[2:59:31] wased b migeinteed.

[2:59:33] To thexten youight fd I

[2:59:35] us, I d have city cle

[2:59:36] city manageralar

[2:59:39] of our combleities

[2:59:40] with that r, if ld

[2:59:43] ke to havhose.>>Roith: I lovehave

[2:59:47] eore we any vot

[2:59:48] my cticism of com

[2:59:52] at weere onallyiven

[2:59:54] are at they aasota a

[2:59:55] key north a

[2:59:58] they are all n comble.

[3:00:00] They are lal and t

[3:00:02] for unionkers was w

[3:00:04] tasie p

[3:00:05] them to g are the bigge

[3:00:10] bett pces.

[3:00:12] Leagu cit

[3:00:16] longbo aolde cy.

[3:00:17] Anhrassed t

[3:00:18] the hatheverage home

[3:00:21] over a milonollars

[3:00:24] thatot o c and our pay

[3:00:29] n't g to matchtnd, ourse,heounty

[3:00:33] is muc lar entity.There onl a of the

[3:00:35] goldenin ttate

[3:00:42] whe the average is a milon dollarspalmch is aer oneif we

[3:00:44] are elvesohere,

[3:00:44] ss.

[3:00:46] Bestefitsnybody had.

[3:00:48] Naples isther one.

[3:00:50] Now aoldenity.

[3:00:51] Any ferences tm I

[3:00:55] evalting whataysot

[3:00:56] fairthe f venice.

[3:00:58] So I o the of t

[3:01:06] I dik leagu citie -- I dn't dot thesoisticated s our pole

[3:01:08] y di where the

[3:01:09] tuallyookingt,hey

[3:01:13] alsoe sealesid,

[3:01:14] are t astal city and

[3:01:15] gs likhat.

[3:01:19] Ust ask for a n basicmeas

[3:01:22] n you giv t f

[3:01:24] everyby, every city in the

[3:01:27] st witopulatn ben

[3:01:30] 25,000nd 30?

[3:01:31] Thate onther w o

[3:01:34] trying to find ces.

[3:01:36] And in that,idn't fin

[3:01:42] anythilly line

[3:01:44] ty merityrk, but

[3:01:46] ere the hstfnybody

[3:01:48] al expses.

[3:01:51] So I jt-wantnformaon

[3:01:56] like t sat we canaluat ae award

[3:01:56] inses.

[3:02:01] And thenyt quen for

[3:02:01] you.

[3:02:03] Idn've u any

[3:02:04] infoonegal fees.

[3:02:06] Esss because have

[3:02:08] coract,otn e

[3:02:09] don't und

[3:02:10] youmeluatio

[3:02:12] in there, s I ass w would

[3:02:15] be loo them tame

[3:02:19] we d loo at the cleand city nager.

[3:02:20] An Bulck: in m vw,

[3:02:21] rtainl thisiscun I

[3:02:23] nothg to do whe

[3:02:24] es forhey.

[3:02:28] E a co you

[3:02:29] rately

[3:02:31] is discussayso

[3:02:34] deci the chart off pay

[3:02:36] fothelerk the m

[3:02:39] tion terms of inf

[3:02:41] provid mn, I from

[3:02:43] tandt, perhaps

[3:02:44] insu, bu youook

[3:02:46] th aachmenthat ided

[3:02:48] om stawide survehich

[3:02:53] come anny thebliciatiyou'll

[3:02:57] seeozen a dozens oities,

[3:02:59] alh theer and

[3:03:05] clernd the are

[3:03:07] , kindfoand

[3:03:08] y exactou thinkwould

[3:03:09] beking

[3:03:14] I doe a morfic

[3:03:15] ce fthe cncil as t

[3:03:17] what you m bookior at

[3:03:18] this point

[3:03:19] >>n Smith: I m to be

[3:03:21] fang younhis.

[3:03:22] I'maulting process

[3:03:27] ve asks t parcipateand we'venot toot.

[3:03:32] I'm mingse pointor m

[3:03:35] gues tc

[3:03:36] excusi behav

[3:03:39] thyou.

[3:03:40] >>Alck:'re wcome.

[3:03:41] Youe toear f

[3:03:42] tudy

[3:03:43] I ve thoserabl if

[3:03:44] of I

[3:03:46] is was n generednime

[3:03:48] lly yething

[3:03:50] itten r the aut I

[3:03:53] have iwee a t of cparable

[3:03:54] cies that we ideified in

[3:03:56] that p sdy.

[3:03:59] Re cocoa b, fernaina

[3:04:04] ach, newa bepiggk, s augustinetuar

[3:04:05] and ro beach.

[3:04:06] E arehe eig're

[3:04:06] loing at.

[3:04:08] Havehe indiduals, I

[3:04:10] will tell you the aor

[3:04:13] the 8, all ofhem

[3:04:18] yesterday citanager,

[3:04:21] is $21806.

[3:04:26] The for city cleis $121,

[3:04:41] so that's 21 and 121,854.

[3:04:42] Yor Paota: anyonlse

[3:04:49] have que f block?

[3:04:50] E onlhing iant to cla

[3:04:53] th youn, real quick I've

[3:04:54] tough seven yea

[3:04:55] doin comparabl and not d

[3:04:58] evaionsnd all thesend o

[3:05:00] I've got emploesrk

[3:05:03] for mny f.

[3:05:07] Myshat ieed

[3:05:09] isu crect mef I'm

[3:05:10] wr, ink cit of

[3:05:12] I pfectmple.

[3:05:14] Believ their city clerkas a

[3:05:17] nanciacomponento w

[3:05:17] do

[3:05:20] tnkrollnd clerkdities aoss th state

[3:05:23] run inthe same situaonwher cityanager m be

[3:05:25] resible r the entity,

[3:05:27] however not he

[3:05:28] sod waste div

[3:05:29] ey MAY not hav a water

[3:05:30] depart

[3:05:31] MAY n have lothese

[3:05:33] depants.

[3:05:37] So the'slly aifficu findi a tles

[3:05:38] wheneomparing city

[3:05:40] noth

[3:05:42] cficati of a pol

[3:05:44] ofr theertition of

[3:05:47] emt or pamedicefig

[3:05:49] whis standhink

[3:05:50] it a lr fs to look

[3:05:55] at tho positions sam with

[3:05:58] evublicorks or afscme I

[3:05:59] complicatese ye

[3:06:01] ookt whurdl driver

[3:06:02] should paids

[3:06:03] necessarildyho just

[3:06:05] operates ack, you

[3:06:09] and ihinkshere thingt lite complated.

[3:06:13] Yo looktur ulitiesogra and cerin com

[3:06:14] certicates, wh lev c

[3:06:16] tevermay f

[3:06:19] stewater.Hink it g kind o

[3:06:20] licaand whave to k

[3:06:21] thn mdnking

[3:06:22] at t positns.

[3:06:24] Far a even lega sers,

[3:06:25] ich e neall

[3:06:29] ev rigow, I loo as,l,e cities

[3:06:33] some cous have their oattorns and somem hndfuf a.

[3:06:35] We hav a contrt with anatto.

[3:06:37] Would you sayhats kind of

[3:06:39] ass oyarts

[3:06:40] at it' reallylt f

[3:06:42] us to d apples a

[3:06:43] it'sr ancil mber

[3:06:47] o theiresea

[3:06:48] Alan Block: in t of

[3:06:52] hr, spendfe ev

[3:06:53] daying t establish t

[3:06:54] shat, whe this

[3:06:58] program orhis situationrthisitionersus that of

[3:07:00] a ci o ent

[3:07:02] itirtual impossi to

[3:07:05] t ect much.

[3:07:06] Some l theelves mor

[3:07:07] readil tirect cparison,

[3:07:09] poicer fighter

[3:07:11] the, badly

[3:07:12] spking isponsib

[3:07:15] niston of e city,

[3:07:16] whater that e is.

[3:07:17] Ny tim we'ook at

[3:07:18] ages.

[3:07:22] That's look a wlest oosit ole list

[3:07:27] ofgencies, bausene m n

[3:07:28] be direcy comparab

[3:07:29] another.

[3:07:33] Myouookt the average a whole,umin all a

[3:07:34] releva morccurat a

[3:07:35] e yoet.

[3:07:38] At tndthe dss

[3:07:39] ovideds g

[3:07:41] youoaveactors that

[3:07:43] mao you decion

[3:07:43] today.

[3:07:45] There' per w of doi

[3:07:47] thinke probably all des

[3:07:49] it difntly if wet t

[3:07:50] our indi des.

[3:07:53] Just aion ofexibnd making the best

[3:07:55] formedecision yotatarticur time.

[3:07:58] Mayochota:ny othquessor alan beforwe

[3:08:01] a moon?

[3:08:02] Allight.

[3:08:04] If you pushingrn,

[3:08:06] unfoy, tystem is not

[3:08:07] rkin

[3:08:09] yoll have taand rse

[3:08:10] cause can't seenyth on

[3:08:15] the scr

[3:08:17] >>Rank: a qstion

[3:08:18] fo MR. Bulck.

[3:08:20] Ju wheyou are readyor ation

[3:08:21] Mayor Pach reaor a

[3:08:26] motion.

[3:08:27] >>Rachel fy.

[3:08:29] I, as aing t for

[3:08:32] discussion me ardhe

[3:08:36] city crk and the cy

[3:08:38] % inc to beary.

[3:08:41] >>Mayor Paecon

[3:08:43] let's go toiscussn.

[3:08:46] Ie somiscussion. You have-

[3:08:47] el f: yeahjust a

[3:08:48] ick cment.

[3:08:50] Hr wolleag, MR.

[3:08:52] Smith iringut taper

[3:08:59] conns,ut youwere no theivid

[3:08:59] converi hithhe

[3:09:02] ty clerk ah cit

[3:09:06] nageere iharedh themfrom m vantagent how

[3:09:07] pleased ieir

[3:09:10] performanc the lastr

[3:09:12] and how I isy missionmake

[3:09:16] su t the f valnd

[3:09:19] apprectednions t

[3:09:23] theiperformancandn also I wou thety's bt interesn m

[3:09:26] ion toake sur we'reepin with cpi and

[3:09:28] incrsingire sy

[3:09:32] apriatel

[3:09:34] that's kin bacund to

[3:09:36] whe I'm

[3:09:37] Pach I'l just

[3:09:40] om m pective I'vesid t and I saidhiso

[3:09:42] the new agern he

[3:09:44] came in, I I'veot s

[3:09:47] toriti,litel

[3:09:48] ve you the rpecto

[3:09:49] criticiz inr off

[3:09:55] an if we an emplo

[3:09:56] st com to t on

[3:09:58] , thentayto g out

[3:09:59] the couil.

[3:10:02] Ry raryn sev yea have evead to bring tut

[3:10:05] to thehatldn'te

[3:10:05] resolved.

[3:10:08] Y a perform related

[3:10:09] object

[3:10:11] so thathinkhat o

[3:10:12] cler de pl job

[3:10:14] I t tha oity manager

[3:10:15] ha done ahenomelob.

[3:10:16] I h thebers

[3:10:18] lile bit becau knowe're

[3:10:21] lookintowards t fut as

[3:10:23] far tax chaes, and'm

[3:10:27] looking kee thing tigound he asar a ourts.

[3:10:31] I think tt cpis aery

[3:10:34] number.Thinhat years t com

[3:10:36] you have o a little

[3:10:38] but tha with whe o

[3:10:42] ci managerlerk current

[3:10:43] e, ihink theairl

[3:10:45] cosated d tha api

[3:10:46] adjuouldeep the

[3:10:47] thin that.

[3:10:50] I wou aeeith MS. Fnk's

[3:10:51] nd w be votin

[3:10:58] vor of it.Anyolse, y'll traisour handse cannoseethe sn.

[3:10:59] Smi

[3:11:01] >>Ron ith: I to vot

[3:11:02] thisn.

[3:11:05] Ihink a m raise.

[3:11:07] Again,llfy c were

[3:11:08] at pcess.

[3:11:10] Don't ink we'rehe

[3:11:11] roce

[3:11:16] andryboan h arivatesatibut public

[3:11:18] deserves hear wha

[3:11:21] y in t wayfform.

[3:11:24] Ever emploe in theityts terformce evaluat

[3:11:27] e thro notecausee

[3:11:30] de as theirervi to

[3:11:31] give o

[3:11:34] an it'sot enougny

[3:11:36] al t t someby

[3:11:37] eir ghts.

[3:11:39] It hascusss

[3:11:39] gr

[3:11:43] an it usu I o

[3:11:43] es.

[3:11:45] I justt drawtion

[3:11:47] th

[3:11:50] this budget

[3:11:57] ussiike thi wishhe couldrecoer andthe f

[3:12:00] ha publissio about

[3:12:03] perfof threeple

[3:12:04] that repirecto the

[3:12:04] col.

[3:12:06] Evritymployee get

[3:12:08] kind luat

[3:12:11] ustmper tme.

[3:12:16] We wenthrough agthyterv proceo our

[3:12:19] cityager.

[3:12:24] We did many ts inublic.And th is the k tngatuld ocr ilic as

[3:12:26] well I a fra discuion of

[3:12:29] at we'reoing.At a rate,ctually go

[3:12:29] to vote I

[3:12:31] thk you.

[3:12:38] Yor ota: aone else?

[3:12:39] Th goio work.

[3:12:40] It oka

[3:12:41] thnly thing I clo

[3:12:44] wis jus that, you

[3:12:45] absoluee wh your

[3:12:46] ruggle on t one, m smi.

[3:12:49] I thatormald,

[3:12:50] ths meri tot.

[3:12:53] I he pro dinitelyould change, don't t

[3:12:54] itd necesrily chang

[3:12:55] making mandato

[3:12:57] think I should go awa far

[3:12:59] rman appals

[3:13:01] ecern

[3:13:03] seindivial peof

[3:13:06] which maye aanagemt

[3:13:07] backgrou per comin

[3:13:10] in h bd to

[3:13:12] prerly evaluebod o

[3:13:15] th perfoance I think ian

[3:13:15] unfa etation

[3:13:17] I theption ss

[3:13:18] been a grehing, if so

[3:13:21] nts to use ias aand

[3:13:23] rougat pross.

[3:13:26] Ey aret-wimplo.

[3:13:30] we can termite them at any

[3:13:31] time wo.

[3:13:32] Ifetshat levels

[3:13:33] ere public cion

[3:13:34] ha

[3:13:35] n't tnk we nto go

[3:13:36] throh aess.

[3:13:39] That's my opinioni erage a m cagues to

[3:13:40] follow whar procerings

[3:13:42] ce ahe end of th

[3:13:43] y.

[3:13:46] I ike I c easytify

[3:13:49] my d to give them a rseon cpi

[3:13:51] thi t againiould

[3:13:54] mpha thaturlerk,ouattorney, and oity

[3:13:58] managehaveery weleretrs, a I'm very

[3:14:02] pleawithheirecti we'readin

[3:14:03] madaerk, bng our

[3:14:04] em isown, we'ahea

[3:14:06] an a rcall ve if'd

[3:14:09] like

[3:14:10] >>Ri Howard: yes.

[3:14:12] >>Rank:.

[3:14:13] >>Ron Sm.

[3:14:15] >>Lld Weed: y

[3:14:16] >>Kevin Enes.

[3:14:19] >>Viceoldtes.

[3:14:19] >>Mar Pachota:

[3:14:20] ssesnanily.

[3:14:22] [Soundi]

[3:14:27] Gav tap there

[3:14:32] we a on 0711

[3:14:35] ans going to be

[3:14:36] MS. Witpprove cha

[3:14:39] calr 20 budt

[3:14:43] sincbudget wor

[3:14:44] >>Jame: ma if iay

[3:14:45] haple oning

[3:14:46] commen.

[3:14:47] >>Mayor Paou a n on

[3:14:48] the ageacket,our

[3:14:50] raisd b h.

[3:14:51] I'm kiddi

[3:14:52] gohead, mr.Linch, if y

[3:14:53] like

[3:14:55] mes ch: thk you, sirthanu,ir.

[3:14:58] Wtedo ct linda

[3:14:59] urirec.

[3:15:01] This was n a sim exee.

[3:15:02] This wasn exercisee

[3:15:04] had t gative a bac

[3:15:06] througreallyhe

[3:15:07] budget.

[3:15:10] What in front o tod is

[3:15:12] 20 dif items affects

[3:15:14] d departmen

[3:15:18] I d ask you privilegeto tghtem her

[3:15:22] its a le b

[3:15:23] ique

[3:15:24] ippreciatedy comg to

[3:15:26] eableeaming,

[3:15:30] le wo tmake

[3:15:31] -- lice offic a r

[3:15:32] have done t

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City Council on 2026-08-25 9:00 AM

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