[0:18] the guy over a hundred run what's he get he gave me the wrong number to start

[0:24] where we left his phone number and when I called him back to date next day I

[0:29] didn't get in till they deliver the clock that night now is he gonna call

[0:31] him love him Sunday he says oh I talked to Bill and I talked to Jeff already I

[0:35] understand what everything's you oh god no that for them you haven't talked to

[0:38] people about boys if I didn't have Paul caller ID I wouldn't know that he gave

[0:47] me a bad phone number I called it and left a message

[0:50] this lady calls you back to says I don't know who you're looking forward to

[0:53] saying him oh he'll I live coming from oh you're

[1:04] like so Mike's on yep yep like Mike Mike Pyke Joe Joe Joe alright this time gonna

[1:19] be here nice their emotional employer chairman so moved

[1:25] all in favor hi alright like call a meeting to order

[1:30] you please rise for the Pledge I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United

[1:37] States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God

[1:43] indivisible with liberty and justice for all

[1:53] roll-call madam clerk supervisor Jeff no Lee Rosen

[1:56] supervisor Gary Wildey dozen supervisor ed Marlene cousin supervisor bill Craig

[2:01] from mr. chairman that note for record ed chairman Thomas Berg is absent and

[2:07] DPW director John Henneberry is here also open meeting law compliance checked

[2:12] mr. acting chairman the agenda was posted inside and outside the Vernon

[2:17] Town Hall to the media to other entities within the town of Vernon we are in full

[2:21] compliance with the open meetings law they'd like to announce there's possible

[2:25] closed session and reads the finally notice the Town Board may convened into

[2:30] closed session under state statute nineteen point eight five print one

[2:34] princey considering employment promotion compensation or performance evaluation

[2:38] data of any public employee over which the governmental body has jurisdiction

[2:42] or exercises responsibilities specifically the review of DPW

[2:46] compensation for three DPW personnel including the closed session would be

[2:50] the Town Board DPW director and town clerk with the town attorney available

[2:55] by telephone the public spring rather first of all their referendum

[3:26] I signed a petition for a referendum it was a big mistake it was my mistake

[3:30] because I violated my number one cardinal rule never signed nothing

[3:34] unless you know what you're saying and there was no copy of the wording and a

[3:38] referendum no explanation for other than they wanted a non-binding referendum

[3:44] after checking us out and I'm sure there's other citizens and did the same

[3:49] thing this never should have been signed it's non-binding

[3:53] the issues already done this has been on the agenda for a couple years

[3:58] that pushed it out I think it is seriously politically motivated and

[4:05] after the candidate forum for the people that were basically behind this

[4:10] referendum didn't even show up I seriously have the doubts about it

[4:15] that's just how I feel about it if I went under here opinions I want to hear

[4:19] people talk there six candidates every one of you is an individual running for

[4:24] an individual position the opposition are the new candidates pickups and

[4:56] that's about 60% of the population uses pickup I think a few other options

[5:01] should be put up spring and fall not for each one it also said that why should I

[5:10] pay for something that I don't use have you paid your taxes lately I'd be 60% of

[5:16] my property taxes for the school board I hadn't had a kid in the school for 25

[5:19] years there's a million things that you pay for that everybody doesn't use and

[5:24] sixty percent of the population uses depend up I think that's a pretty good

[5:27] return on it but options should have been put off maybe a one-week pickup in

[5:32] a spring or the fall all the way to yours

[5:35] or definitely a drop-off spot for the residents that take their brush

[5:40] personally and drop it off someplace that it can be utilized that way that

[5:44] would be fine and it comes to saving money for the town I have been tracking

[5:50] this since 2009 I get all my numbers out of the town budgets here and they're

[5:55] pretty close but since 2009 [Applause]

[6:12] in the past three years forty-four thousand and seventeen dollars went to

[6:16] support the park and rec this last year they didn't even have enough notice not

[6:27] against the park and rec as it is it was originally set up to be a self funded by

[6:34] town board decision why this has going on and it's gotten worse and worse as

[6:38] time

[6:44] sixty percent of my tax play that goes to the high schools they charge per

[6:52] sports or whatever they sign up for I looked on the Mukwonago website that's a

[6:57] hundred dollars a class I see you've got sixty dollars and fifty dollars for

[7:01] people to sign up and that's for residents and we do support many

[7:05] neighboring communities in the park and rec today coming here I think it's about

[7:10] time that the target rect was made to follow the original Edict of

[7:14] self-supporting or just close to it and that doesn't even include it what I

[7:19] found here the DPW expenses to help the park comes up to about $20,000 a year

[7:25] for further help to it I don't know if it's all for the park and rec department

[7:30] but it's it's still a cost it's on the budget and I just think that it's about

[7:36] time that that should be doing and let's see what else I got here the Park and

[7:43] Rec director salary any average is 75 percent of the expenses that leaves you

[7:51] know it's supposed to be for the kids and everything is 25 percent going for

[7:54] the programs and the kids is that right I don't know I don't know of them any

[7:59] any place could afford to have somebody getting 75 percent of the funds for a

[8:04] management position and the it's like these scams for charities when they pay

[8:10] back 10% on a dollar although this a little better that 25% but I think

[8:15] this has got to be bought in line thanks Keith

[8:23] any other public comments any other public comments yeah I go ahead and

[8:33] speak now dan dan frsky actually I live in Waukesha

[8:43] Waukesha I want to thank this war for allowing me to be here and speak on

[8:48] behalf of the Fox River Bandits would also like to acknowledge two of our

[8:52] members Josh Anderson he's a assistant coach as well as a Vernon resident and

[8:59] then Nicole Purcell she's a member of our organization

[9:03] her son is part of our organization and she's also a Vernon resident used to

[9:12] quick short history of the Fox River Bandits we've been around now for eight

[9:15] years when a group of dads felt the Select baseball programs were going in

[9:21] the wrong direction and wanted to create the best baseball experience for their

[9:24] kids I took over the organization this last year so this is my first year of

[9:32] bringing the organization together we weren't really a formal organization we

[9:37] didn't have any formal bylaws we weren't officially a nonprofit organization this

[9:44] last year we went through the process of forming a non-profit we're working on

[9:49] completing our 501 C 3 tax exempt status as well our mission is to teach sound

[9:56] baseball fundamentals alongside character development and then teach

[10:00] important life skills such as leadership adversity resilience grit courage and

[10:06] loyalty many things that I learned as well when I served in the military for

[10:10] eight years we are completely by volunteers and no

[10:14] one coaches or directors that are part of our organization receive any

[10:18] compensation for the time and energy we put into or

[10:22] organization we currently have two teams where in the past we've had three teams

[10:27] we've been recruiting quality coaches to expand our program for the next year and

[10:31] hopefully for years to come in which we're hoping that Josh will soon take

[10:36] over his own team we've also been in conversations with Mike's lucky the

[10:39] director of Parks and Rec and have discussed developing a feeder program so

[10:45] that we can take some of their best players as well and help their programs

[10:49] grow as well as our programs so developing a strong select baseball

[10:53] program together a fund raising fund region accounts for a large portion of

[10:58] our revenue needed to pay for equipment field rental maintenance improvements

[11:03] things that we've been working here in in partnership with the town of Vernon

[11:07] another operating Constance is indoor facilities tournaments and so on our

[11:13] fundraising efforts allow us to keep the fee to members low compared to other

[11:16] select and travel baseball programs we currently charge $700 a family we're

[11:21] another program that's very similar to ours charges upwards of eighteen hundred

[11:26] dollars that's probably the next lowest that you're gonna find and that's

[11:31] probably where a lot of the parks and recs kids are going and playing in those

[11:35] select programs and it's going to continue to rise in the select programs

[11:41] however because of our fundraising efforts we're gonna continue to focus on

[11:46] keeping our our costs low and it's not about the money for us we're not trying

[11:50] to turn this into a baseball business where we're moving kids you know into

[11:56] trying to be the number one draft pick we want them to develop the fundamentals

[12:00] of baseball and do it at a way that is fun and gives them the best the best

[12:07] shot at making high school teams that's ultimately our goal is to help them get

[12:11] down get into high school teams we have developed an tiered sponsorship program

[12:15] for local businesses to support our fundraising efforts and I can I can

[12:19] share a copy with that of that with you if you'd like to see a copy of that it's

[12:23] also available on our website Fox River Bandits org as you can see on that sheet

[12:34] we have the different sponsorship levels from 150 dollars all the way to 2,000

[12:40] dollars for local businesses and where the town comes in and where we're

[12:47] sharing we would like to talk about sharing some of our revenue our

[12:51] sponsorship revenue is when it comes in to hanging banners on our fences so we

[12:56] have we have two sizes of banners a three by five banner and then a four by

[13:00] eight banner and you see that there are various timelines that are included in

[13:05] that based on the the dollar amount that they would give to us our fundraising

[13:11] efforts help us help the town of Vernon to through our field rental fees we rent

[13:17] the westfield down here on the other side of the fences exclusively for our

[13:24] season which runs beginning of April through the end of or the end the end of

[13:29] July first couple weeks of August and that's when our banners would be hung as

[13:33] well the beginning of April through the second usually the second week of August

[13:38] when we have tryouts for our next season we've also been partnering with John the

[13:43] DPW director to make significant field improvements and we're actually using a

[13:48] lot of the money that we are raising to help with those costs so for example we

[13:52] are going to be purchasing a quad axle of dirt to put on the field so that the

[14:01] field continues to be one of the premier playing fields in the year in the area

[14:06] we've also partnered with John - he's helped us clean out some of the the

[14:12] stuff around the fence and we rebuilt the field so that we can have a nice

[14:17] field to play on we're also going to be working with a local sign maker to help

[14:21] fund some signage replacement for Hackett to replace some of the Hackett

[14:26] field signs so that it look nice as well so when guests come to the town of

[14:30] Vernon they know that this is the one of the best places to come play baseball

[14:35] and we have a list of things that we've been working with him on if you'd like

[14:39] to see a list of that as well I can share that with you

[14:46] this is just sort of our it's not necessarily a wish list but it's some

[14:50] things that that obviously need to keep down and Johnny's you hear these like

[14:53] you just talk we're talking about some of the things that need to get done and

[14:57] you can see there what we agreed to the V stands for Vernon and FRB obviously

[15:02] stands for Fox River Bandits and what we're what we're working with we're also

[15:06] gonna be purchasing things like clay to help because if you look at the batter's

[15:10] boxes they're they're not playable so we need to install new clay and things like

[15:15] cutting around the fences and the infield violent we've already done that

[15:18] we did that in the fall thanks to John and his team for for helping us get that

[15:23] all squared away there's some other things there that you'll see that are

[15:28] part of the part of future you know we'd love to expand build nice dugouts at

[15:35] some point for for the team as well but that's all going to come through our own

[15:38] fund raising and supporting the town so part of again part of that revenue we

[15:43] would give back through making the field better for the town okay and working

[15:48] obviously with you the board and John to make sure that this comes to fruition as

[15:55] of right now we have seven paid banner sponsors seven paid banner sponsors

[15:59] which amounts to two thousand dollars raised our fee to print those banners

[16:03] with tax at this time is going to run four hundred and seventy eight dollars

[16:07] and a little bit of change we originally had proposed to Mike's alecky a 5% of

[16:13] our banner fee so bright hours we sold mostly the 250 banners $250 sponsorship

[16:20] and we proposed originally a 5% Mike came back with 15% and I had said and

[16:26] agreed to settling at 10% if you'd like to see the email communication between

[16:32] Mike and I'm happy to share that with you that that where it says Mike would

[16:36] bring that to you guys I know you guys discuss 15% last time but I I feel that

[16:41] with all the work that we're partnering on and how much we're investing in the

[16:45] field I think 10% is really a fair amount

[16:47] based off of what we're renting your fence defense space for we're we're

[16:53] going to maintain them we'll put them up we'll take them down

[16:56] if there any damages to them will replace the

[16:59] banner at our expense all we are asking is to use defense

[17:03] space basically renting the square footage to hang our banners our goal at

[17:10] the end of the at the end of this is to have recurring sponsorship so this

[17:14] creates not only a revenue stream for us but also helps the Parks and Rec revenue

[17:19] stream or the town I know I think Karen mentioned last time that you guys have

[17:23] to vote on where that money goes you can allocate that for the Parks and Rec or

[17:27] wherever we would love for it to go to parks are incredibly important

[17:34] especially for providing a quality of life for its taxpayers but we want to

[17:40] make sure that where we have this recurring revenue so after year one

[17:44] we're gonna reappraise and they'll have to pay again that 250 again and then you

[17:51] would get a portion of that okay if we can't would like to show you the some of

[17:58] the banners that we have go ahead so these are three of the local businesses

[18:05] that have agreed to sponsor us the first one is Dakota drywall at a New

[18:15] Berlin 3x5 and then the next one is rule mutual insurance so I know you have a

[18:22] lot of rule rule harm homes out here and in farmland this is a great insurance

[18:31] company and then also Infiniti exteriors Infiniti roofing a great another great

[18:38] local business that has agreed to sponsor us now we if you go to our

[18:41] website Fox River van org you'll see the additional sponsors but I can tell you

[18:48] that who they are if you're interested in knowing those

[19:03] we also have complete towing blue Mel's blue Mel's gardening on track overhead

[19:12] door scream at kibbutz Kia counting out of out of Waukesha and then L two custom

[19:17] engraving as well and again one of the things that I know came up in the last

[19:22] meeting that I watched online was talking about the CBD organization and I

[19:29] will harm to you today that as the president of this organization Fox River

[19:33] Bandits I will never ever take any fundraising from an organization like

[19:38] that regardless of how someone feels about it that does not promote health

[19:43] safety and welfare with my kids and I don't want my boys that are or girls you

[19:49] know loved to have a softball program to it some someday but that does not

[19:54] promote healthy living especially as young athletes wanting to get get into

[20:00] high school programs so I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have

[20:04] of us at this time okay all right thanks Dan there any other public comments

[20:21] public comments if not moving on to miscellaneous matters advertising

[20:27] sponsorship policy why don't I read what the attorney Macy said on this before we

[20:33] start discussion this is a Polly decision although in my brief reviewing

[20:37] the changes to the policy has shown in the packet I do not note any major

[20:40] concerns you do not see how the policy even has changed the laws of town to

[20:45] allow other groups other than the town to sell banner space and the fences or

[20:50] like the opportunity to work with the supervisor and the town clerk to put the

[20:53] policy in a better form to protect the town other considerations for the Town

[20:57] Board include who is paying for the signs is the 15% of the payment gross or

[21:01] net what are the minimums that the group must donate in order to be eligible does

[21:05] group need to make these donations yearly etc the Town Board can adopt the

[21:10] policy subject to the town supervisor working

[21:12] with the town clerk and town attorney pretty the same in into final form and

[21:18] put a copy of the final form the next packet or the town working table the

[21:21] matter until next meeting for the same to be put in final form basically what

[21:27] Macey is concerned about is how do we if we allow this group what's to stop the

[21:34] next group saying I want to do this and a I've worked a couple hours out in the

[21:38] field that's the potential time for me you know so he wants to try to just nail

[21:43] down these matters a little more subjectively instead of beings kind of

[21:48] objectively to it he was also kind of concerned that you realize what we're

[21:53] trying to do but at the same time this probably might be better on the facility

[21:58] use policy or creating a whole new rental agreement policy but he thinks we

[22:06] can I says unlikely we're gonna have other groups coming forward requesting

[22:11] this at this time that we could work out something in this advertising

[22:15] sponsorship policy not to exceed an hour's worth the time of myself Karen

[22:22] and him worked on it what's what's the timeframe for for placement of these I

[22:27] did talk to Dan and he had said that if the Town Board wanted to to defer this

[22:31] to the 21st have the policy in order and approve the signs that would still work

[22:35] for them and maybe Dan would have a few more signs that you'd want to approve

[22:39] but he did say that if you could do everything by the 21st that would work

[22:43] for them also is that know who's gonna be enough time for you to basically get

[22:49] a policy in place and have it reviewed by a supervisor Jeff Milly's has already

[22:56] you know talked to me about some of the changes he wants supervisor bill Craig

[23:00] has a couple of clerical things he would like to correct we get I'm sure Jeff

[23:04] what do you think we could get this done and John said it wouldn't be any more

[23:08] than an hour yeah hopefully yeah

[23:15] moenay's and myself will do all the work and then he'll just correct okay I don't

[23:21] have a problem with it if we can work out a policy

[23:24] with regard to the town protection in regard to the that the questions that he

[23:31] rises raises here you know that I think it's a great idea and that's it's it's

[23:38] not that we're hurtin for for sponsorship we haven't received any

[23:44] sponsorship money at all from any other source you know so and John John would

[23:51] be you'd have to work with John probably in order to you have any questions

[23:56] regarding this John no I I've talked with him a little bit about or he had

[24:02] planned and I don't think I don't see a problem with what you know as far as

[24:05] banners on there you know you brought up as far as wind and stuff sighs I think

[24:10] that for you my thighs would be fine on that fencing I don't think it's gonna be

[24:14] an issue for you know so was it not space right next to each other right you

[24:17] spread them out a little bit yeah you'll be fine so yeah and one of the things

[24:20] the attorney and supervisor Milly's that indicated is the facts River Bandits do

[24:26] an awful lot for the town so we can substantiate all that they've done and

[24:30] all that you know and and protect another group saying well you know let's

[24:34] just piggyback on them they I'm sure if they did what the max River Bandits did

[24:39] it'd be different but they do an awful lot for our tone ya know it's more

[24:43] worried about another group coming in saying and we would do this also and

[24:47] yeah we work on your field for a couple hours

[24:50] [Music]

[24:59] there's great so far now you might a lot of speaking chewy so the and we also do

[25:07] pay a usage fee so we do pay to rent the field as well well you know so no more

[25:13] home games occur between April and in August we pay the town to use the field

[25:20] as well this asked about a yearly duties seem like they're gonna be continual

[25:28] sponsorships for the for the banners that's the goal yes so that would be a

[25:32] ten percent yearly coming to town next year next year would be two fifty and

[25:50] you would receive another ten percent as well so it would be an annual revenue

[25:54] stream of sponsorships and we will obviously want more sponsorships because

[25:59] it not only helps us but it clearly helps the town you know with its parks

[26:04] park and rec needs and hopefully we can you know fix the 7525 by helping the

[26:12] town plus the fact that they as he stated they paid they pay to rent those

[26:18] fields yeah just a quick question Jeff you're more

[26:22] in tune with Park and Rec then than we are

[26:25] would this have any interference with the town programs in regard to baseball

[26:29] like t-ball and anything like that would know it has it okay interfere okay

[26:34] that's that's that's a question it might come up from somebody might say you know

[26:39] is there going to be a possibility of conflict and who's going to get priority

[26:42] over the use of fields and things like that okay you know our programs to our

[26:54] more geared towards a little the teeny was a t-ball and coach pitch and you

[26:58] need just like Dan said that's not working I just want to clarify so in

[27:02] case there's a question comes out I was one of the first concerns we had when we

[27:06] allow fans to come in and make sure wasn't the interfere with our programs

[27:09] and Mike made it all work out words okay not an issue

[27:12] that was a question I had what's the age range of the people that you allow in

[27:17] your group right now right now we have two teams we have a 11 year old team so

[27:21] it's ten eleven year olds and then a twelve year old team which are made up

[27:25] of eleven twelve year olds and each each team right now has twenty has eleven

[27:30] boys so a total of 22 families are part of our program next year we would like

[27:35] to start building another team a seven eight year old team as well okay we are

[27:42] looking to expand the age range okay and again if we expand our program and if we

[27:49] can figure out a relationship with Mike and in the Parks and Rec that's

[27:54] additional revenue that will be providing cuz we'll need more space

[27:58] we'll need to rent the fields again have you

[28:00] odd question but have you priced this out which you've got here for a list of

[28:04] things you're gonna do with that field looked pretty expensive for some of this

[28:08] stuff but yes based on what we've done

[28:15] and that's the special fielder member they call it palette of clay it's gonna

[28:23] cost us about a thousand bucks to do that and we're doing all the labor

[28:28] for that we're not asking the town there's a couple things that they've

[28:33] agreed to do and they have to do justice yeah when the dirt goes on the ground

[28:38] they're not spreading it we are when the clay goes in we're installing it they're

[28:43] not they're not having to do any of that so I was like a really good deal to me

[28:47] yeah very sad official to the town as well so policy that we have now that

[28:52] exists states it must be three by five banners which those are what I thought I

[28:58] saw reference somewhere to other sizes as yeah we do on the if you look at the

[29:02] sponsorship sheet we do know we do sell a four by eight so that would be that

[29:09] would be something that asks that you'd allow is it could be incorporated on

[29:13] your policy we won't go any bigger than that but that that would of course

[29:18] increase you know would you obviously the board has to

[29:23] discuss all us but would you go with

[29:27] stay on we don't have a choice I guess if that's what the board says then

[29:33] that's the policy you put into place we want we're looking for a way for an

[29:40] organization obviously to give us to donate more money so we provide them a

[29:44] benefit so they have more advertising have you sold any for bases nestled one

[29:51] we have but we have my my another board of director who's another coach he's the

[29:59] you 12 coats we've talked about if if the town doesn't allow that that we've

[30:03] got another plan in place that that'll be portable for us to put up when we're

[30:07] here and then we'll take down so what do we actually be signing a one-year

[30:11] [Music] contract with you guys that's what you

[30:17] want to set up right now they have to come back every year to have the signs

[30:22] of fooled right now it's beginning a season in the season period a okay the

[30:27] reason I ask is Jeff for someone raises a question before if we get requests

[30:33] similar requests from other teams all of a sudden what do we do you know we our

[30:40] board is always asking a question once a precedent-setting issue and we don't

[30:45] want to get in a bind on that either but I'm I like this idea very much that

[30:53] would be one question maybe we'd have to tie that up and writing a little more

[30:57] that it would be a seasonal beginning season to end the season and you guys

[31:02] can tell us when you're training weeks are or whatever just going back to the

[31:08] attorney conference I think some of these things are already answered who is

[31:13] paying for the signs I think that's been answered already we've kind of go back

[31:19] and talk about 10% because there was 15 represented prior and what are the

[31:27] minimums that a group must donate it's relevant I mean they're donating

[31:35] the cost of a sign that I shared there that has the table to get a sign the

[31:44] minimum is 250 that's what we've established bill what the what the

[31:49] attorney was referring to the minimum is how much time they put in compared to

[31:53] the next true coming ins and we want to say well okay I see with the same

[31:57] situation without putting it in the same amount of time you know that's what the

[32:03] measure yeah if they have already got a sponsor with a 4x8 I ask that you guys

[32:09] when you write that make sure that the foreleg gets included in it where I have

[32:12] no problem with the 4x8 personally are the signs all going on the outfield

[32:16] fence are they going up I'll call is it for defense no in the

[32:26] outfield that high that's all really no problem I think it's a good idea my my

[32:46] grandson graduated from the hitters program and this last year and now he's

[32:50] moving on to a high school ball for the first time but his family cost him

[32:56] $2,000 a year plus travel expenses of two all the tournaments or he went to so

[33:02] this is our more reasonable and I think it's a good thing for because this is

[33:07] the future of baseball I think is in select programs yeah this is a good it's

[33:29] a good good deal that was a good question though do you

[33:34] play teams that are brought in how how widen area do you travel as well

[33:40] we travel within the area but we don't go out of state

[33:44] oh that's not that's not that's not part of our program we do plan on having a

[33:50] tournament out of state next year with both of our teams is a sort of reward

[33:55] for the boys but all of our games are local or within driving distance you

[34:02] know so local part well the whole team will go up and play tournament the Dells

[34:05] will go down to Salem and that tournament down there so but most all of

[34:10] our games are home games are here we bring in people from Muskego we bring in

[34:20] people from the Berlin from Milwaukee so close thank you

[34:28] well should we make a motion to table this until next meeting when you bring

[34:33] back an updated policy yep you guys are in favor of us spending up

[34:38] to an hour of Macy's time working on this yeah all right sounds like a plan

[34:49] I'll check into Plan B further discussion if not all in favor aye don't

[34:55] we need a friendly amendment for this or not but I think those legal fees should

[35:00] come out of Park and Rec budget because they're getting no total percentage I

[35:06] don't think the town budget should take a hit for whatever it's going to be

[35:10] attorney fees an hour of nation's time yeah okay okay

[35:18] there goes the $200 we make yeah

[35:24] depends on with his fees

[35:29] if you need if you would like me to come back I'm happy to come back yeah we'll

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[35:56] thanks fun next item Santa

[36:13] I think when this table that lxb policy yep in Russian and make a motion to

[36:23] table that to the next meeting one state there's I guess 321 still remain in 321

[36:32] hey I'll second it all in favor opposed motion carries

[36:39] thank you thanks guys requested of iron milk

[36:50] corridor evaluation through sewer tag for Verdun three four three burner

[36:55] properties as you can see we're testing the microphones bill could you say

[37:20] something oh yeah turn it to your microphone on it just say hello yeah

[37:27] turn it on to just say hello because you talk with your head tip that way you're

[37:48] always

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[38:20] all right Karen you want to oh yes in your packet board members we've done

[38:26] this in the past there are three parcels that both Fitz and I would like to send

[38:32] to the Regional Planning Commission to have an evaluation of the environmental

[38:36] corridors and/or distinctions of the properties you can see the two

[38:40] properties on Edgewood are very very unique it means in regards to

[38:44] environmental corridor and what's buildable out of those Lots the other a

[38:48] parcel we'd like to have a delineation on is the one the lek lek tau parcel

[38:55] obviously that's environmental corridor because of the woods but when the state

[38:59] came through and plowed in between that property of the properties across the

[39:03] street we were just like an evaluation of those three properties to have the

[39:08] South Eastern Regional Planning Commission's look at those three

[39:12] properties and report back to the Town Board on what their findings are where

[39:20] it's at what they do as they said their hydrologists out there experts out and

[39:26] they actually look at what side the map they have to actually look at you know

[39:31] the type of I'm assuming I've been assuming the one off of Vernon Hills

[39:36] Drive is an event middle quarter because of the woods but my question is is there

[39:42] something unique about the woods is an underlying plant growth we'd like to

[39:46] know what qualifies that small little tree stand as an environmental corridor

[39:52] the other issue are the two properties on Edgewood Avenue you can see that

[39:57] there is a the webco easement goes through close to those properties and

[40:02] you can see that there's a contiguous environmental corridor to those

[40:05] properties and others but what Vince and I were looking at are the specifics of

[40:10] those properties we felt if the Regional Planning Commission could at least look

[40:15] at those two properties and see what their evaluation as you know both that's

[40:20] something that we'd like a report that there is no cost to the town

[40:25] as you kind of go on a list because I'm sure this happens quite often with the

[40:31] Regional Planning Commission but that would be that that's what the Vince and

[40:35] I are requesting for the Town Board there is no cost and it's the only thing

[40:46] is it they just can't do it they could do them obviously you know with the

[40:49] weather changes and depending about are the amounts of requests so it might not

[40:54] be something that's done quickly but it's done very well and the ones we've

[40:59] said before we've said because there's issues related to where the building

[41:04] envelope goals the setbacks or some of the uniqueness of those properties and

[41:08] if it's that I could see something that it's contiguous or there's a reason for

[41:12] it then but these three are unique so ah Quong request is we're crossing the town

[41:19] board to approve or authorize the clerk to follow these two the regional

[41:24] planning commission for their evaluation of the Lots as it relates to

[41:27] environmental corridors or substantial issues related to those properties in

[41:33] question landowners the one at Edgewood yes a

[41:42] little bit the one on the edge was are the double

[41:46] Lots I have not talked to the property orders it hasn't any effect of the

[41:51] property rights you know what like I said we'd like to know from a planning

[41:54] standpoint because we've had previous to this the last purchase I think I feel

[42:01] that at least 15 calls on this property alone before it sold recently I mean and

[42:09] it's it's it's good plenty for the town because there's some other issues

[42:12] related to that lot and like I said most of the corridors you could kind of

[42:17] understand but this one was ruined when would the freeway came through as far as

[42:22] any contiguous if it's the trees I'm not sure I'm not sure if it's the trees I

[42:28] don't know if there's any specific plant life that's unique there's got to be

[42:32] something about this that property all the at least three properties so that

[42:37] that's just request for bids and I this is a rule of

[42:42] coercing is through so back then yeah it's a Regional Planning Commission this

[42:46] or what that doesn't cuz they're probably right now probably eaten one

[42:49] salt by the time coming into spring like this she's just so yeah I'd like I said

[42:55] that there's no urgency had they've done this for the a few properties that we

[42:59] just had without a national ad Hillview we had what done right across from the

[43:04] golf course prairie side golf course on the other side so like I said and the

[43:09] reason we're asking is that for it has nothing to do with commercial it's just

[43:13] understanding and you know understanding if the delineation czar the maps are

[43:18] correct okay I was on line a couple times trying to attract these key

[43:24] numbers back to addresses and putting natural do you have the actual addresses

[43:30] that go to these three key numbers they would not have the addresses because

[43:34] they're you don't get it address are the property until there's a bill there's a

[43:38] an actual building structure so you can only go by taxi dubber and I can show

[43:44] you easily how how you do that at the code yeah because I finally ended up

[43:48] running all the tax purses on Edgewood Avenue and I still couldn't match it up

[43:52] so yeah I could show you how to do that because the the maps that you're seeing

[43:56] both the hydraulic Mac said the GIS maps are offered the county's website okay

[44:07] I'll make a motion to the clerk and putting every question to Southwest

[44:15] planning so in fact to do the evaluation as requested all second

[44:26] any further discussion not all in favor aye opposed motion carries unanimously

[44:34] thank you developing a brush pickup drop-off site in the town of Verdun

[44:42] supervisor number four we attacked a little bit about this last meeting and

[44:51] through my error of omission I wanted to have this on the agenda for more

[45:00] discussion I don't know based upon this topic how much we can discuss it but

[45:05] I've filled it a number of calls on this and just surmising what people are

[45:13] saying out there I do I don't know of anyone who complained about giving up

[45:19] running pickup versus the truth so let's turn is a real plus taking a consensus

[45:28] of the people I talked to I feel we should look at one pickup and I would

[45:36] think coming into a spring it'll be a little late for us to say Nell sorry

[45:40] there won't be a pickup at spring so I would like to see us look at a pickup

[45:46] for spring and then have our DPW director John tell us if we can arrange

[45:52] for X number of weeks in the fall to have an allotted area in the parking lot

[45:59] that went and have people bring their own Russian for the fall so my feeling

[46:05] is springtime pickup this year no flat pick up but have a designated spot

[46:14] somewhere on our drones that people can bring in and a brush that will be named

[46:18] the with a flat brush and then move our $30 that's in place now per load for

[46:28] mulch because I think we're getting into private nursery

[46:33] service if we're going to deliver mulch with more charge and two pickups so it's

[46:40] I don't know if we're in a position from the agenda item here to make a motion

[46:46] tonight and vote on it or if we want to pull that next agenda but John one day

[46:52] we normally start in April won't we me or me I'm sorry okay so that's coming up

[46:56] fairly soon I would think we'd wanna but Bishop on

[47:02] John's news he did some research for us so we know there's a substantial cost

[47:07] savings just eliminating one pickup I guess the agenda items more is

[47:15] developing a brush drop-off site and John wasn't present at the last correct

[47:20] time for that so we wanted to get John's input if that's something we could

[47:24] consider it possibly do back there or that's just not a good idea either if

[47:31] you want to open it up I would look I prefer to keep it into a fenced in area

[47:35] where I don't have drop-offs all night long where I can monitor this because

[47:40] what's gonna happen is we're gonna end it but people dropping off two by fours

[47:43] with nails in and railroad you know stuff like that so if we can keep it in

[47:50] inside a fenced in area and monitor it all 7 to 3:30 during the week and in it

[47:57] I don't see a problem with that quite honestly as long as we have somebody

[48:02] here that can monitor that you know so I've seen days when you I've seen days

[48:08] when there's nobody in the building from the DPW so if you'd 7 is 3:30 you'd like

[48:14] to have someone here to monitor this correctly so somebody doesn't come in

[48:17] while you're all gone and dump it you know outside defense or something right

[48:20] so how do we assure that that doesn't happen

[48:24] well we do have the security camera monitoring parking lot what what what my

[48:31] my that's an aftereffect type of thing yeah well you can track down a father so

[48:35] we get this junk out there who brock alone in yeah it's hard to hard to

[48:38] determine who yeah dropped what my opinion this is that we should have

[48:46] it that one pick up one one to lift one once a year but it should coincide with

[48:54] the drop-off with when the pickup is going to be going on because that's way

[48:59] saluting right because of the grinder you've gotta run it that's expensive to

[49:03] have that thing here for that one day it's almost $3,000 and if we have it in

[49:09] this fall also then that brush is gonna sit there till the next spring we should

[49:15] have people allowed to bring it during that same two-week period or so or

[49:19] whatever because I would suggest having a yeah a set time amount where either

[49:26] you bring it within these two weeks or you don't bring it yeah because then if

[49:29] I still get the grinder we're done with it

[49:32] right I mean I can't have the stuff trickling in for months on end and I

[49:36] have it be an issue in the way it would not so it would be a hazard I think to

[49:40] have it stored there for months out of time right you know we don't want that

[49:43] no and no that's what we'd have to get a dumpster and then nobody gonna put in a

[49:50] dumpster unless you're young enough to lift it over there you go right we

[49:53] talked about that dumpster is not a not a good program as far as oh we like to

[49:57] have a flat level area where they get as far as monastry net you know we could

[50:02] ask for some volunteers and even in the tone us guys that sit up here could

[50:08] volunteer to sit down there for a day or so to watch it you know I you know we're

[50:13] the ones that are establishing a policy we should be willing to do something we

[50:17] regard to that good Clerk's office outside of those days is anybody paid

[50:27] the thirty dollars yes so then hopping we drop the fault picked up this year

[50:33] would be somewhat of an issue I would think I like Bill's idea you know drop

[50:37] the fall pickup yeah but I think we need to wait till next year because we've got

[50:42] people who already came in paid for it and they're getting the spring very much

[50:46] people a spring right now yeah 15 heaven peep for the folia and sprays your

[50:52] biggest pick up right right fall right and maybe next to me I'm gonna flip a

[50:57] little over what yeah I mean I even game to going out there and babysitting on a

[51:08] Saturday morning to give people a chance who can't make the 7:30 to 3:30 i I

[51:13] would recommend if that's what you were gonna do I would recommend having a to

[51:18] Saturday probably dropped from frog til noon or something like that because a

[51:23] lot of people can't make it turn America right so they do that in the art work on

[51:28] well we can rather than come home after work and you know feel like cutting up a

[51:33] tree branches well and then try and get here by 3:30 is going to be tough so

[51:37] that is more appropriate Sunday we're talking timeframe basically I would I

[51:47] would suggest to keep it as a two week time period we're doing that that's the

[51:51] only two Saturdays yeah we could even pay you guys your overtime or whatever

[51:56] still come out ahead on this it's up to you to know I'm sure we can work it

[52:03] we're summaries available for that one of us or 20 years yeah I think that's a

[52:08] workable program so I think that's a good way to go but for the agenda item

[52:12] developing a drop-off site you want to work on development where that would be

[52:17] John I got some ideas I tossed it around when we were talking about today a

[52:21] little bit in the back there so if we're going to do it on a whole separate time

[52:27] where we're not picking up yeah that's not going to be a problem we have the

[52:32] whole bag open but if it's gonna be during the same time as we're actually

[52:36] doing the pickup I would have to segregate that section off to the north

[52:39] side of the parking lot back there which we would have room for and and if it

[52:44] filled up a little bit we could take that brush to push it over onto the

[52:47] remaining pile but I'd like to keep them separate because if we're coming in our

[52:50] trucks I can't have this the liability for people being in the way or whatnot

[52:54] so maybe we just make it Saturday's well if you want to open it up to drop off

[53:01] and not pick up totally like you say for fall you know I would suggest to keep it

[53:06] open for the whole two weeks yeah cuz you're not gonna get everybody

[53:09] in here on Saturday for Fito yes no as we do just a drop off you don't

[53:14] have the trucks running back before so that's not an issue but if we're gonna

[53:17] have a drop-off with the default to picked up yeah if you want to do that

[53:23] we've got to figure out what days are gonna work for that so that we're not

[53:25] having traffic issues with your truck right and it sounded like any time

[53:29] during a week you're running at all we are going back in you now quite a bit

[53:33] yeah I mean we're relatively schedule something like that well like I said if

[53:36] we could keep that separate on the north side of the parking lot I think that

[53:39] wouldn't be a problem we could work around it so we can get cars in without

[53:44] your trucks bump I believe so yes okay and you provide us a map ton of

[53:49] what are a sketch oh sure where you would think this is what the traffic

[53:52] pattern would be to stay out of your way yeah maybe we paint some lines or

[53:56] something put some cones up or something yeah it is we got the fences all gay

[54:05] fenced off and that's why I like to keep that separate just for that fact I don't

[54:11] want no late-night dumping you know last year we we used a parking lot next door

[54:15] because we had this dirt pile back here we got some late-night don't be going on

[54:19] and we didn't fight too much bad stuff in there but some stumps and dirt that

[54:25] we would have picked up yeah so because it wasn't in a fenced-in area that's

[54:30] what you're gonna you're gonna get yeah I know tom was taken to if we put a gate

[54:34] in on the south and when they came in on that side versus for the not interfere

[54:40] with your trucks his son too as a possibility yeah we could look into that

[54:45] putting our entrance in over there sure yeah I think we could make it work I

[54:50] mean it's okay um we'll put it back on the agenda for ya next on board meeting

[54:56] yeah sure fundraiser for us yeah absolutely

[54:58] okay it covers everything so we can make a decision on it and make the motion no

[55:06] I should have cleared my there with Karen

[55:10] excuse me supervisor moment I did note that for the record that supervisor

[55:14] Craig wanted to discuss the full program at the next toe board we go so that's

[55:18] great thank you glad the volunteer in a Saturday the care needs help alder eyes

[55:39] in town chairman design the 2019 road program it's just a formality type thing

[55:54] is well did we have the contract you had the contracts paid or barmen I have ad

[56:01] look over I'm engineer Peter don't sign them basically it's just up to the chair

[56:08] yeah you awarded the bids of the attorney asked about having legal review

[56:13] Andy Schultz our town engineer is very good about anytime there's any type of

[56:17] statutory or change he always recommends a legal review we

[56:23] both John and I checked with Andy not only in regards to any statutory change

[56:29] there is none we all went over very distinctly on the certificate of

[56:34] insurance so although Jonah Jonah they are

[56:38] attorneys both John and I felt that it's it's ready for you to authorize Todd to

[56:43] say that that johner I didn't discuss this all with mr. Macey okay except for

[56:52] the fact that he had you know recomm he's recommends a legal review to

[56:56] protect you but I just wanted to give you the feedback

[56:59] Judd Henneberry and I had with Eddie Schultz our tone engineer the last time

[57:03] they'll be reviewing this is when there are some states guide to changes quite a

[57:07] few years ago we educate says it's been quite a quite

[57:12] a while yeah so is there a motion authorised town chairman to sign the

[57:17] 2019 real program shovel second a further discussion not all in favor aye

[57:25] opposed motion carries [Applause]

[57:31] report on repayment for paid mileage reimbursement claim by the treasurer

[57:35] supervisor number three okay couple meetings glow is requested by the board

[57:43] to check with two people treasurer and a clerk to find out why there's a

[57:50] difference between their balance I sent an email to Lorraine our treasurer I

[57:56] need to make an official request to have a baby this is about the mileage stretch

[58:05] me the mileage well the mileage isn't doing much because the police haven't

[58:10] come back with report yet so I don't have anything new to offer but I would

[58:15] like on a next agenda to put down you need to make a motion for this request

[58:21] that was made to make it official

[58:31] putting Town Board and Planning Commission a packet to the ton of our

[58:35] website Jeff I just wanted to state that this came up at the forum that the he

[58:45] packets for the Town Board and planned commission packets be put up on the

[58:49] agenda I only never discussed this at a staff

[58:53] meeting with the attorney in the whole gang so I just wanted to let you know

[58:58] that the request has been made and just to let you talk about the board talk

[59:04] about it see what your feelings are when I talked about you may see about it he

[59:09] recommended putting on a staff meeting agenda item he had some concerns and

[59:15] basically it's creating more work for the Clerk

[59:20] staff second a further discussion if not all in favor opposed motion carries

[59:29] we'll have that in the next staff meeting articles and deadlines for the

[59:35] next town newsletters March 15th

[59:41] yeah the made a memory question is there anything specific the board would like

[59:46] addressed you know you can email me or but if there's anything specific that

[59:51] you'd like in this because it's going to hit with this is the last one we have

[59:57] with LPI so Mike the recreation director is getting all of his programs in in

[1:00:03] this newsletter and then we'd have one go out in late October November concern

[1:00:13] is if we're gonna change the policy in regard to the brush pickup are we going

[1:00:19] to be able to get out enough information after the 15th to the residence in

[1:00:24] regard to the change because I think that should be the lead article in the

[1:00:29] newsletter personally if it gets to that point because it's going to affect an

[1:00:34] awful lot of people in the town and if we're gonna have a mass confusion if

[1:00:38] they don't understand we've been accused of not getting information out in the

[1:00:42] past and I would be I would really like to see a stall on the 15th can we get

[1:00:49] pastor to our next board meeting Karen to get the articles in do you think in

[1:00:53] time to get the newspaper you could write the we need a limb by the 15th so

[1:00:57] you can see him at your board meeting on the 21st yeah because that's got to be

[1:01:03] in the bleeding and far as I'm concerned because that's gonna be extremely

[1:01:08] important for people to understand that there's going to be a major change so

[1:01:12] that there's no confusion in and what they can do and what what we're allowing

[1:01:17] to have happen you know we have a bigger problem because you don't I don't think

[1:01:21] you decided you didn't come to any conclusion on anything no but by this by

[1:01:25] the board meeting on a 21st we will won't we well we could say the

[1:01:30] newsletter or the brush pickup will be thirty dollars yeah a chanst and already

[1:01:37] posit and then say they're in discussion of possible trop off times yeah like the

[1:01:44] web what is your website or something like that because my suggestion won't

[1:01:49] believe this bring pick up just the way it is

[1:01:53] initiate this change in fall put it in newsletters and as of the fall pickup

[1:01:59] just take place I think it's too late to program to push this in early pickup I

[1:02:05] think we're gonna have a lot of confusion l'oréal's bloody complaints we

[1:02:09] could have signs in the door when they vote in April to about brush pick up

[1:02:12] people who read when they walk in yeah I just I just want to leave with a big

[1:02:18] problem because yeah I really rather push it to full it gives us time to work

[1:02:23] through it because we don't have a program yet no we've got suggestions but

[1:02:28] we have there anything concrete rating it's got to be a policy policy changed

[1:02:33] and it takes some time yep so rather than jam it in and get it

[1:02:36] screwed up let's take the time to fix it right either the spring lake it is

[1:02:42] notify them in March letter or nose letter about their the papal newsletter

[1:02:48] about the change that's coming and we can give some description then we'll

[1:02:53] have some idea you know it's gonna be a drop off point we've agreed on that I

[1:02:57] think so we'll have to put a couple things in there to the word kapre are

[1:03:02] gonna fall into the program when we get it set up but we could only give them an

[1:03:06] overview we can't give the details at this point I can live with that I just I

[1:03:12] just foresee a major problem if we just dropped this on them you know without

[1:03:17] any information you know because John's gonna catch holy hell with the phone

[1:03:22] calls and so is the clerk not so much us because people call it we'll call Karen

[1:03:27] and they'll call John I don't know a couple people got my number

[1:03:33] I gotta change your number yes um to make it official I make a motion to not

[1:03:40] do this till the fall picked up and let's get some information now as both

[1:03:44] the ocean surgeonfish you're on the wrong item this is just a newsletter

[1:03:50] articles on deadlines yeah so we okay I think we can live with

[1:03:56] what ed saying by the next meeting we can make a motion at that time so best

[1:04:03] thing we're seeing is it will pick up okay as usual for me know you've got

[1:04:12] time our dress for fall we do like okay so write your articles next week yep pay

[1:04:29] out a dtw DPW sick time D Padova director and clerk may ask that we come

[1:04:36] back to this item Jeff after after we discuss it in closed session ok ok on to

[1:04:44] correspondence announcements and reports I don't have anything at this time Gary

[1:04:50] no I just had one I had a contact with and the gentleman is here tight so we

[1:04:57] discussed his concerns regarding what would discuss this evening in regard to

[1:05:04] the recreation program and I agree wholeheartedly with with him in regard

[1:05:11] to the funding I remember specifically that we made the decision that this was

[1:05:19] not to be funded with taxpayer dollars the system's supposed to be standing by

[1:05:24] its own and I think that we said that we would give it to the board to the budget

[1:05:31] hearings to make a determination on what we're going to do but if anybody has any

[1:05:37] concerns regarding this I appreciate it if they can give us a call and let us

[1:05:41] know but as of right now I have to agree with

[1:05:45] gentlemen that is mr. Graham jet this is not it's not working the way we intended

[1:05:50] to work other than that I don't have anything at this time had you follow up

[1:05:58] or what Gary said I believe we actually made a decision that there will be a

[1:06:02] decision come the end of the year budget thing whether or not this program

[1:06:06] continues based on the dollars and the needs I also had several calls for

[1:06:14] people that didn't attend the meeting claiming they didn't know about even

[1:06:18] though it was on the mailer for information on boundary agreement what

[1:06:25] I'm not sharing with you Jeff and that bill fella gave me the wrong phone

[1:06:31] number so I didn't get a hold him right away now I'm gonna bring up what I was

[1:06:37] talking about the treasure I heard the beating and I was requested

[1:06:45] to get together me the clerk in the treasurer and try to identify the room

[1:06:50] for the difference in their balance bank statements I sent an email to Lorraine

[1:07:02] yes sir to reply and give me three months records of the past history of

[1:07:07] the bank statement there was no response until Eve last week

[1:07:22] anyway just not getting a response for that stuff she finally came through and

[1:07:29] said the reason she hasn't done anything was she looked in that past minutes and

[1:07:36] the minutes did not have an approval by the Board or a motion is what she said

[1:07:42] so what I wanted to do was get a motion so that it's on the record that there's

[1:07:50] a motion that I am supposed to go do this and she has to follow up based on

[1:07:54] her job description I explained to her in her job description says she has to

[1:07:59] respond to the board with anything why this is coming in three weeks ago four

[1:08:05] weeks ago the only response I got is I can't I can't do that because I looked

[1:08:11] and it wasn't official because there was no again no agendized motion so I asked

[1:08:18] Karen look I don't know if it was on the minutes or was just a request and he

[1:08:23] said I'll go do it but we're not getting any response we're gonna have to make

[1:08:28] that official request with motion and then I'm gonna go after and say now I

[1:08:32] need that information question so is it proper to make that motion now another

[1:08:43] voting for the record that she wanted on the next town board agenda he's kinda

[1:08:56] ridiculous that's what we're at with the Treasury

[1:09:00] right now and that's all I have supervisor Craig coming back to Gary's

[1:09:07] comments regarding Park and Rec I agree with his comments wholeheartedly and mr.

[1:09:13] Graham's who contacted me fact I've spoken several times the last year about

[1:09:18] that issue this program has gotten over control in

[1:09:24] the sense of the amount of money we're putting into it which should have been

[1:09:30] zero is going to kill would be a better name when he goes back so and remembers

[1:09:41] when this took place and we're so far afield I can't I don't have the

[1:09:46] expertise to say okay we've added this this and that activity but I know what

[1:09:50] the prior athletic director we had I made the point personally I don't want

[1:09:56] this program to grow at all until we get a handle and we're at we don't have any

[1:10:01] more of a handle now then we had five six seven years ago so the various point

[1:10:06] is very good I think we're gonna have to take a very serious look at this how are

[1:10:12] we justifying pumping that amount of money subsidizing a program and I've

[1:10:22] been made aware that public schools you're paying as a special activity

[1:10:28] wonderful baseball student there you probably pay a hundred hundred fifty

[1:10:32] bucks for baseball season so I don't think it's our job as a tone off or

[1:10:39] super discounts at our own budget expense so I agree with Gillian Etzel

[1:10:45] will be looking I'm sure to pursue that at large at a time and the other thing I

[1:10:51] had I've been contacted several times now regarding the fire department

[1:10:57] show I had never seen it until last week so I thought I would just stop in I

[1:11:05] talked to assistant Chief Pat Hayes and told him I

[1:11:11] just like the kind of Snyder facility there have been numerous comments coming

[1:11:16] forward one of those the poor condition of the shower

[1:11:19] the other one is apparently the women fire department members do not feel

[1:11:26] comfortable with a shared shower so I did like I said I did go over there Pat

[1:11:33] Hayes gave me a good tour that area and what we've got for a shower stall now is

[1:11:40] in shambles I just dry rot one corner toilet broken out what we've got right

[1:11:46] there if we did nothing more that's a big time work but then also I received

[1:11:54] in the mail I think maybe Karen did too a copy of three proposed and the numbers

[1:12:02] on them but three proposed plans and they're kind of hard to read because

[1:12:07] there are actually three to three dimensional and it's very hard to get a

[1:12:12] perspective on holiday we layout with that but theoretically they could live

[1:12:19] initial question back was well I'm sure they were a big problem if we're going

[1:12:24] to be talking about expanding today the fire station physically so this we

[1:12:31] sketches let's see show that we could possibly get up to 300 stairs without

[1:12:39] moving ways or making any major plumbing changes the part that bothers me though

[1:12:46] when the whole thing is I made it clear to the caller this should be something

[1:12:51] that originates with the fire department comes to the board with a recommendation

[1:12:56] and I've said repeatedly we have not gotten that I don't know if any of your

[1:13:01] have gotten calls but I am in a very clear to this day I have not been

[1:13:07] contacted by anyone on the department or anyone else not on the department should

[1:13:13] we be doing something I think we need to but that's not for the board to start

[1:13:19] from Warren this fire station so I'm really confused why we're not hearing

[1:13:28] this seems to be a major issue to some people but we're getting nothing from

[1:13:32] the fire department directly as a recommendation or requests or any of

[1:13:37] that sort so I've been told there are there are people looking for donated

[1:13:43] funds for a part of this project I haven't seen any prepares numbers on it

[1:13:49] at all just along with that one of the serious items I can see in the whole

[1:13:57] picture is they're supposed to be in Washington a scale off they will

[1:14:01] guarantee there's more into it than I am because of the toxic silicon front and I

[1:14:07] said assistant Hayes or deputy chief Hayes how long does it take to wash down

[1:14:13] a set of gear 35 minutes how in the world if we have 50 members

[1:14:21] or 35 members on a fire they all come back around the same time

[1:14:26] are we going to get all the showers can show the girl washed at 45 minutes per

[1:14:32] set of gear I just don't know yeah and washed as I understand it so that's just

[1:14:45] might be coming in the future but that's the contact I've had players say the mr.

[1:14:50] Toomy is it of course it was on TV I think a little soul refers to that as

[1:14:58] exactly it did not make us more he turned it down I was a little upset

[1:15:05] see in the word so that's my comment for now on conversations I've had with to

[1:15:16] taxpayers thank you that's only out John I just got my report to give you ready

[1:15:24] I just give you update on our assault situation I know we've we've had like 35

[1:15:29] snow events so far this season which is ten over what the total average is

[1:15:35] usually around twenty five so we're with another month to go here yet we're

[1:15:42] really pushing it here so we get plenty of salt to last us though we get just

[1:15:47] kind of shipping in 500 tons about a week and a half ago so we should be okay

[1:15:53] here but you know a lot communities are using the sand salt mixture so but we

[1:16:00] shouldn't have to resort to that at all so with that being said we've been

[1:16:04] spending real busy with the tree work I'm trying to cut while these a lot of

[1:16:08] these data ash trees and stuff would run around town I got our new truck in our

[1:16:15] hot patch box is being mounted we're hoping to have that back tomorrow that's

[1:16:20] for heating up that cold patch for pothole repair which is we all know

[1:16:26] we're gonna have a good pothole season here so and and now with this rain

[1:16:32] coming on Saturday if I could ask anybody near some drains we're gonna go

[1:16:39] around tomorrow and clean open them up as much as we can but it's a if anybody

[1:16:43] has any dreams they're going to need to be opened create a snow and ice away

[1:16:48] from them because we're supposed to get an inch of rain on Saturday so it's

[1:16:52] gonna be a lot of flooding going on so oh that's it for me if you had any more

[1:16:58] requests for to buy salt from us John I have one one person looking who with

[1:17:06] tongue quizzing us but I said I have to hold on to what we have absolute I was

[1:17:12] wondering what cure what's your what's your feeling

[1:17:15] and policy wouldn't last year I put 200 tons down in April last year so I have

[1:17:23] another month before that and I it's gonna hang out to what we have okay so

[1:17:30] like to be good neighbors but I know I agree where I used to scroll I don't

[1:17:35] want to be though I don't want to be the guy out to put sand on a mat and so I

[1:17:40] have to look out for number one right that's hate to say it but that's true

[1:17:44] our residents take priority when you're selling salt to somebody who didn't buy

[1:17:49] it off right Chad just for clarification of the minutes are you asking residents

[1:17:58] to clear concrete areas or dreams culprits if you have but we have some

[1:18:03] dreams we will be doing like catch basins and stuff like the culverts are

[1:18:08] b12 because you start back and one up it's just it's a you know that goes

[1:18:12] upstream so I just wanted to state just remind the residents that we do have a

[1:18:19] meeting this Wednesday the 13th from 5:00 to 7:00 the plan Commissioner tell

[1:18:23] board on looking at proposed land use amendment said before they go to the

[1:18:27] public hearing they would like to hear from residents so that once again that's

[1:18:31] this Wednesday from 5 to 7 to look at their proposed land use amendments you

[1:18:36] can look at them on the television website however when you click on the

[1:18:40] map you have to blow up when I blow it up with enlarged areas to look at the

[1:18:46] map it's it's very well done our town planner has done that and then also we

[1:18:51] have another informational meeting on the border agreement on Tuesday March 26

[1:18:57] from 5:00 to 7:00 p.m. we had a close to 60 people at the last two meetings we

[1:19:03] had in February also just wanted to remind the residents that Tuesday March

[1:19:08] 26 from 5 to 7 is the informational meeting on the border agreement and

[1:19:14] we're starting absentee voting in the clerk's office this coming Monday and

[1:19:21] mr. acting chairman right on the finances accrual of

[1:19:27] accounts payables dated March 7 2013 no I'll make a motion to accept accounts

[1:20:04] payable for 3 727 in batch number 201 9 old 307 Ponemah 25,000 14 dollars and 38

[1:20:16] cents for a second I'll second it any further discussion it's not fall in

[1:20:27] favor aye opposed motion carries manual checks I'd be the amount of

[1:20:45] thirty eight thousand seven hundred and seventy five dollars and ten cents to

[1:20:57] that we need to add the four thousand six seventeen sixty acting chairman Jeff

[1:21:09] Millie's gave up the final total of thirty eight thousand seven seven five

[1:21:13] ten

[1:21:18] ed were you moving no no he gave the about but did you make the motion

[1:21:33] [Applause] I'll second it

[1:21:36] a further discussion not all in favor aye opposed motion carries

[1:21:45] have the accounts receivable AG report mr. trimmer I just want to let the board

[1:21:52] members know there's two people that we sent letters to that have balances that

[1:21:59] are pretty old and ask them to come and speak before the Town Board to ask well

[1:22:06] one well the very last one you know you made arrangements for that person to

[1:22:10] make payments and that person the very last entry will have that payoff by the

[1:22:16] end of the year but there are there's one item for $850 and 70 cents and then

[1:22:23] there's one item for 1812 79 what we sent letters in their last statement

[1:22:30] that they need to contact the Town Board into making either arrangements for

[1:22:36] payment or if they need to discuss this issue with the Town Board we sent

[1:22:41] letters to those effect to that the one gentleman that has the 1008 1279 said I

[1:22:57] wanted to talk to director had a very warm or tie before he went to the board

[1:23:01] but he does he's going to be on his telling the 21st so if he comes to the

[1:23:06] board it's going to be the first meeting in April I will call him I did send him

[1:23:14] a letter but I will call Charlie I'd see what what his issue is Karen and revved

[1:23:21] motors that's Charlie oh that is one okay

[1:23:25] because I thought the request was for us to weave wasn't he was a dealer he was

[1:23:34] required he was you were gonna wave it if he whip him if he moved into the

[1:23:38] building that counted builders period he never moved it to that building ruler go

[1:23:44] no nope Khalid builders is in there okay thank you so so he needs to come back

[1:23:50] and talk to the board again this are the aging report picks up things that we

[1:24:16] just put in I could see if you want it in a different format I'll pull done a

[1:24:34] report just to show you I can I can reset it anyway but this is the way the

[1:24:40] board has seen it for the last four years this building's went out in

[1:24:55] February so in a sense they're aging we can say we can change it to the 60 90

[1:25:03] and 120

[1:25:12] the more prevalent issues were the ones that have been pretty substantial those

[1:25:18] other ones that you're probably gonna end writing off or sending to the state

[1:25:24] because they're not residents of the town averted all right January financial

[1:25:51] report I'm pretty good a chance to look at that mr. Chairman I did forget to

[1:26:24] state that there is a candidates forum on March 19th with a March 20 of them

[1:26:29] date for if there's bad weather and of course I am no meeting no one has any

[1:26:41] question on the financial report let's move on to proving town board minutes in

[1:26:47] February 21st that's you

[1:26:56] collisions on Ellen yeah that's all right

[1:26:59] I just I'm sorry that the later I on the January general fund on workers comp

[1:27:12] under other expenditures page nine workers comp is already at sixty nine

[1:27:19] percent budget and insurance at eighty point two eight percent of budget are

[1:27:24] those paid that far in advance Karen if you look at your accounts payable you

[1:27:31] have you have a you can't do a worker's comp audit until the years done so we

[1:27:38] just if you saw we've just completed that you approved a bill so that's going

[1:27:43] to be you'll see a journal entry by the auditor that will be applied to 2018 so

[1:27:49] it's are you talking about number that's in January that won't stay there you can

[1:27:56] have revenues in January that won't stay there so the January genuine for their

[1:28:01] March statement will be cleaner as the audit essay as the audit begins okay

[1:28:08] thanks that's all I Adams sorry to back up here

[1:28:12] but all right on to the approval of minutes come February 21st

[1:28:28] board meeting be further discussion

[1:28:43] it's not all in favor aye close motion carries

[1:28:51] minutes from February 26 make a motion to approve the minutes from February 26

[1:29:01] there a second I'll second all in favor aye opposed motion carries all right we

[1:29:18] just next meeting dates Town Board March 21st next Wednesday to do 15 since the

[1:29:32] comprehensive Land Use Plan proposals and then March 26 be the border

[1:29:38] agreement and then march 19th would be another candidate forum or 20th the

[1:29:43] weather's it's bad in the 19th public comments any other public comments

[1:29:55] there's no public comments announce the possible closed session the Town Board

[1:30:02] may convene the closed session under state statute 1945 from one per se

[1:30:08] consideration employment promotion conversation performance evaluation data

[1:30:12] penny public employee of which the governmental body has jurisdiction or

[1:30:15] exercises responsibilities specifically the review of dpw compensation for three

[1:30:20] DPW personnel including the closed session will be the Town Board DPW

[1:30:24] director and work with the attorney available by telephone the motion will

[1:30:29] require a Laurel call vote somebody's got a move to go into closed session

[1:30:36] I'll make a motion to go into closed session second

[1:30:41] acting chairman jeff melis yes supervisor kill rally supervisor edmond

[1:30:47] supervisor broke leg yes mr. chairman know for the record that the Town Board

[1:30:51] has voted to go into closed session by unanimous voice vote

[1:30:55] all right I'm going to close session at 7:29 year

Town of Vernon- Town Board Meeting 3/7/19

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