[1:38] Recording in progress.

[2:38] » Penny, we're just going to give it another minute and see if

[2:41] anyone else is pulling up here. But, we do have

[2:45] quorum, so we'll be able to have the meeting.

[2:48] » Okay.

[3:08] » probation

[4:22] » All right. Well, um we'll see if anybody else joins us a

[4:26] little bit late, but we might as well get going since we have quorum. Uh it's

[4:29] 5:05. I'll call the Parks, Recreation, and Forestry Committee meeting to order.

[4:32] It's Wednesday, August 26th, 2026. Um we do have a quorum and the agenda

[4:38] was properly posted. It's a hybrid meeting taking place both on Zoom and

[4:42] here in Village Hall. Then we can move to item three, public

[4:46] appearances. Public's opportunity to speak about any subject that is not a

[4:49] specific agenda item. Um Charlie, we do have you for item

[4:54] five. Do you want to talk then? We'll just talk during that portion. Does that

[4:58] sound okay? >> At your pleasure.

[5:00] » Okay. I don't think it'll take us real long to get to item five, so.

[5:05] All right. Uh then uh item four, discuss and consider the

[5:08] minutes of the Parks, Recreation, and Forestry Committee meeting on July 23rd,

[5:12] 2026. Any edits um or comments or a motion on

[5:18] the minutes? >> Motion to approve the minutes.

[5:23] » Thank you, Jerry. >> Second.

[5:25] » And second by Penny. Thank you. Any further discussion?

[5:29] Hearing none, all those in favor say aye.

[5:31] Aye. >> Aye.

[5:33] » Any opposed? Any abstained? Motion carries. Thank you. Then um up to item

[5:38] five, the cottonwood tree update. Um I don't know if we'll do Sean can

[5:46] present his memo and then Charlie if you want to come up and we can have

[5:50] discussion about that. Charlie did fill out a wish to speak form

[5:55] for that item. So Sean if you want to kick off your memo

[6:00] that you prepared for us, please. >> Okay.

[6:03] Great. We also do have James here too. So if we have any cottonwood questions

[6:08] as we get into things. Um I put a rather lengthy memo in your

[6:13] packet. Um hopefully everybody's read that verbatim.

[6:18] But I I just wanted to kind of just highlight the memo a little bit rather

[6:22] than go through it word for word. So I'll just kind of I'll

[6:25] do that right now. Um obviously the the purpose of this is to evaluate evaluate

[6:30] the management options available for mature cottonwood trees in the village.

[6:34] And you know with James and I kind of looking at things, we estimate that

[6:37] there are less than about 50 cottonwood trees in the village, most around

[6:40] private property and in slash near retention areas. So we we currently do

[6:46] not have any cottonwood street trees. Um

[6:50] obviously the cottonwood is a native Wisconsin tree species for recognized

[6:54] for its rapid growth, broad canopy, and environmental benefits. Female trees

[6:58] produce cottonwood seeds during late spring and early summer that

[7:02] are commonly perceived as a nuisance because they accumulate on sidewalks,

[7:05] lawns, streets, and park facilities. Although the seasonal cottonwood can

[7:09] generate complaints, the cotton itself is generally a maintenance issue rather

[7:14] than a public safety concern. Decisions regarding these trees should

[7:17] therefore be based on on overall tree health, structural

[7:21] integrity, maintenance costs, and and risk to the public rather than solely on

[7:25] seed production. Um so I I wanted to

[7:30] again apologize for the lengthy um memo, but I wanted to make sure that you guys

[7:34] had some options to look at and I tried to lay those out the best that I could.

[7:39] Um so if If do nothing um and just kind of leave things the way

[7:42] that they are, um the advantage to the that is it preserves a mature preserves

[7:48] a mature tree that provides significant shade and aesthetic value.

[7:52] Continues to provide environmental benefits including carbon sequestration,

[7:57] which is capturing the CO2 from the atmosphere, storm water interception,

[8:01] air quality, and wildlife habitat. Maintains existing

[8:05] landscape character, avoids removal expense. Mature trees provide

[8:11] ecological benefits, more ecological benefits than newly planted trees.

[8:16] Disadvantages to doing nothing, annual production of cotton seed can create a

[8:19] nuisance conditions in parks, streets, sidewalks, and residential areas. And

[8:24] also disadvantage would be increased maintenance. So those are just kind of

[8:28] the highlights of the do nothing. Option two is treat and maintain.

[8:33] Advantages, it extends the useful life of the tree, reduces the likelihood of

[8:37] branch failures through proactive maintenance, protects the community's

[8:42] investment in mature tree canopy, delays significant expense of a removal and

[8:47] replacement. Um and that would allow for ongoing

[8:52] evaluation as as tree conditions change. Um disadvantages, recurring maintenance.

[8:59] So if we if we wanted to require treatment, it is a recurring thing, it's

[9:04] not a one-time cost. And the treatment does not eliminate the

[9:09] cottonwood production, it just reduces the cottonwood production.

[9:13] Um if we

[9:17] wanted to do tree removal, so asked that that all of those cottonwood trees be

[9:21] removed. Advantages, biggest biggest advantage is it eliminates future

[9:26] cottonwood production and associated maintenance.

[9:28] Removes safety concerns with declining trees, reduces long-term liability

[9:32] associated with maintaining an aging tree. Disadvantages, the immediate

[9:36] removal costs are high. Likely $3,000 roughly on a mature mature tree.

[9:43] Um the loss of shade and then the reduction in wildlife habitat.

[9:48] Um municipal considerations, uh things that I just wanted to throw in there,

[9:52] the village has a responsibility to maintain public trees in a manner that

[9:55] protects public safety while preserving the long-term health health and value of

[9:59] the forest urban forest. While cottonwood production can be

[10:02] inconvenient, it is generally not sufficient justification by itself for

[10:06] removing a healthy tree. Decisions should instead

[10:09] be based on objective criteria such as structural conditions, public safety,

[10:13] maintenance requirements, site restraints,

[10:16] uh and then the overall life expectancy. Um

[10:21] If we wanted to address this ordinance-wise,

[10:24] um um adopting an ordinance that

[10:26] specifically regulates female cottonwood trees um from everything that I've seen

[10:30] and and folks that I've talked to is is generally not recommended. Species

[10:35] specific ordinances can create enforcement challenges, increase costs

[10:39] to property owners, and encourage removal of healthy healthy trees that

[10:42] continue to provide significant public benefits. Cotton production is a natural

[10:46] characteristic of the species and and does not by itself

[10:50] constitute a hazardous condition. Instead, municipalities typically

[10:54] regulate trees through broader tree maintenance and public safety ordinances

[10:57] that apply equally to all trees. And so, what we kind of already do is we refer

[11:03] to ordinance 294 three and then uh D which addresses hazardous private trees,

[11:08] requires property owners to maintain maintain trees

[11:12] so they do not create hazards to the public. The ordinance uh addresses dead

[11:16] or dying trees, trees with structural defects, trees interfering with sidewalk

[11:21] streets, utilities, or public infrastructure, and uh authority for the

[11:25] village to require pruning or removal after inspection. So, which is those are

[11:30] all things that we do James does on a daily basis that we're, you know,

[11:34] constantly addressing any any hazard trees that are out there and and a good

[11:38] example is we we just sent a letter to the

[11:41] homeowner. What what's that daycare on N?

[11:45] Um >> Preschool City Kids, I don't

[11:47] » Yeah, right right right across from Cottage Grove School. There were some

[11:50] trees hanging down branches hanging down. We sent them a letter. They cut

[11:54] them they cut them off. Everything's is is much better.

[11:57] Um Public tree planting policy rather than

[12:00] regulating existing cottonwoods the village could adopt a policy limiting

[12:04] future planting of female cottonwood trees on municipal property.

[12:08] Um the policy could include uh approved street tree list which we do have and

[12:13] cottonwoods are not specifically called out. Correct, James?

[12:18] » They're not on the list. Excuse me, they're not on the list, but

[12:23] we can put them on the prohibited list. We can add that.

[12:28] » Um Uh diversity goals, uh selection

[12:32] criteria based on maintenance requirements, um

[12:35] replacement standard for trees that are removed. Um this allows the village to

[12:39] gradually diversify its urban forest without necessarily removing

[12:43] um healthy trees. So, and then my recommendation based on

[12:47] um what I saw, what I who I talked to, what

[12:50] I read, um was basically um

[12:53] if we wish to reduce future main maintenance concerns with cottonwood

[12:56] trees, the preferred long-term strategy is to adopt an urban forestry policy

[13:00] that discourages future planting of female cottonwood trees on municipal

[13:04] property while maintaining a diverse, resilient, um sustainable public tree

[13:09] canopy. Um so

[13:12] it is recommended based on available information, um it is recommended that

[13:16] the village continue to evaluate female cottonwood trees individually rather

[13:20] than adopting a specific or species-specific ordinance.

[13:25] So, in a nutshell that's the that's the information that I

[13:30] came up with. So, again, I wanted to provide the committee with some possible

[13:34] options. Um obviously, those are not all of the options. Uh you guys can think of

[13:39] something different, but um open to questions, thoughts

[13:44] based on my memo.

[13:50] » Um

[13:54] and I was wondering, James, was there anything else you want to add

[13:58] from that on your daily work? >> I I would add that um just to clarify to

[14:02] the committee that we do not have any cottonwood trees in the boulevards

[14:07] within the public right-of-ways. Where we have them is in the drainages,

[14:12] retention areas. So, what we want to consider is access

[14:19] um in identifying these trees, cuz access will be difficult. And removals,

[14:25] these are big trees, may need to be contracted out to take

[14:29] down if removal is an option versus treatment.

[14:36] » Thank you. Um questions? >> Question for James, are there

[14:41] other than willow trees, which comes to mind, are there other trees to fill the

[14:45] need of what you just described in those wetland areas, you know, where you want

[14:49] to maybe help that tree take care of some of the over-flooding challenges and

[14:54] things like that? Are there other species of trees that are desirable to

[14:57] plant in those wetland kind of areas that would be beneficial, or for the

[15:01] most part, no? >> Um

[15:04] depending on how well these areas are drained, you could go to certain oak

[15:08] trees. Um more beneficial, lower maintenance. Um

[15:13] yeah, the cottonwoods need to be checked on versus

[15:17] from breaking apart in storms. Um willows, as well. We've had issues with

[15:22] Willows and the retention areas that have fallen apart and we're in there too

[15:27] often to to deal with those.

[15:31] So, there are other options if we had to replace the cottonwoods.

[15:37] » And that would bring up a budget part of things too. It's like if we were going

[15:41] to cut those down and want to replace that's obviously an additional expense.

[15:45] Um, out of that 50 James, what do you think

[15:49] how many of those 50 would you guess are on public property?

[15:53] You know, can you know, obviously our our our storm water drainage areas is

[15:56] the most >> We've

[16:00] if we include thorough examination of what we have out there. I think Thaden

[16:05] is a big area that could have cottonwoods.

[16:09] I would say we have at least 50 on our public

[16:15] drainages and retention areas and that would not include private

[16:21] private property. So, the 50 number is probably that we're going to have to

[16:27] deal with.

[16:31] » Thank you. Charlie, if you want to come up and

[16:34] thanks for bringing this item forward for discussion and I appreciate you

[16:38] being here tonight to help us continue that.

[16:47] » So, I'm Charlie Rogers. I live on Old Town 211 Royal Street.

[16:52] And the whole start of this was never to remove all the cottonwood trees in

[16:57] Cottage Grove. That was never even discussed or brought forward.

[17:02] All of the ordinance that I supplied to you guys were all what are considered

[17:06] complaint driven. Meaning if there's a problem, excuse me,

[17:11] then a complaint is filed and then the solutions are either treated or

[17:15] something else. And that's something that we're dealing

[17:19] with in my neighborhood, okay? Um

[17:23] the public nuisance we understand quite

[17:26] well. But the thing that I want to stress

[17:28] tonight is the flammability of this situation.

[17:32] Um during Fireman's Festival, which is the

[17:36] peak shedding time for these trees, there is anywhere from 3 to 5 in of

[17:42] can I say fluff, or do I have to call it cottonwood seed?

[17:46] » We know fluff. >> Okay. There's anywhere and again, it

[17:49] depends on the season because they go through cycles. Some years are better,

[17:53] some years are worse. Um anywhere from 3 to 5 in of this fluff

[17:58] in the parking lot behind my house and on our property also.

[18:04] Um somebody throws a cigarette butt down and Heidi hopefully has the a video that

[18:10] we can show you about the flammability of this substance.

[18:14] Uh it's not not it's very lethal, okay?

[18:19] Um and we're not you know, like I said, we're not asking James to be the police,

[18:23] tree police, and go out looking for trees.

[18:26] All we're asking for is a complaint-driven

[18:29] ordinance to say, we have a problem, here is how we solve the remedy, okay?

[18:35] You either treat your tree or remove it. Okay? Um because it is a fire hazard.

[18:42] Okay? Um

[18:45] and the it's a mechanism before it has to go to

[18:50] like a legal situation, which none of us want. I mean, we're we're working with

[18:55] our neighbor to if she can't or I if they can't afford

[18:59] it, we're willing to help them, okay? Uh you know, we're not bad neighbors, but

[19:05] it's a situation where and I don't know, Heidi, do you want to

[19:08] put that up, the flammable part? But imagine the liability that would

[19:14] happen if someone threw a cigarette butt down in these 3 to 5 in of fluff with

[19:19] all the cars parked there during the festival.

[19:31] And then I'll I'll finish, too, is as far as the cost to implement this

[19:35] um is minimal to to none. And again, if there was a complaint in a course, there

[19:40] would be a small cost for James to go out or the paperwork to be filed. But,

[19:44] as far as the cost would be minimal to the village

[19:48] in my opinion.

[19:51] And again, it uh on the uh municipal considerations

[19:58] con consist cons

[20:00] causes a hazardous condition.

[20:05] I'll emphasize that. Causes a hazardous condition.

[20:09] And hopefully the And again, I don't know if if any of you

[20:12] watched the videos that I asked you to last meeting.

[20:16] Um it's not

[20:19] a little. It's an explosive

[20:24] flame.

[20:34] I don't know I don't know whether the volume will come through there, so I'll

[20:36] just check out my sound of

[20:42] Now, this is >> I gathered a bucket of cotton and this

[20:45] will demonstrate how flammable the cotton

[20:47] This is in my fireplace, my fireplace. Jesus.

[20:54] » Imagine the parking lot of that.

[20:58] Or a neighborhood. >> I've gathered a bucket of cotton and

[21:02] this will demonstrate how flammable the cotton is. This is in my fireplace.

[21:09] » Jesus.

[21:13] » Tell my wife. My wife actually did a small experiment

[21:17] in the backyard along the fence line thinking it would be a small little

[21:23] flame and this this was only like 3 in. That's of course an exaggeration. Um,

[21:28] and it freaked her out. Luckily she had water

[21:32] available to put it out, but it just took off.

[21:36] Um, and again, you have a festival, you have a parking

[21:40] lot full of cars, and you got 3 or 5 in of that.

[21:44] That can consist consider be a hazard of

[21:48] condition in my opinion. So, um, I would just ask you to

[21:52] reconsider. Um, minimally I would like to have an

[21:56] ordinance that says you can't plant female cottonwoods. Like

[22:00] Madison's had one for 50 years. Um, ideally I'd like a complaint driven

[22:07] ordinance.

[22:10] And again, I appreciate you guys' time. Um,

[22:14] and again, it's to me it's a safety hazard. It's not a nuisance anymore,

[22:18] it's a safety hazard. Okay? Thank you.

[22:23] » Thanks, Charlie. Um,

[22:27] so, uh,

[22:30] Sean, did you have any chance to talk to legal about our current ordinance and

[22:36] how maybe specific situations, you know,

[22:41] given proximity to, you know, high traffic type events that

[22:47] maybe it is more of a um,

[22:50] a hazardous nuisance or like how how can we objectively

[22:57] apply that ordinance for various situations, I guess.

[23:02] » Overall, legal wants us to stay out of private tree issues as much as we can.

[23:08] Um we we typically now address hazards that

[23:13] are going to fall that could fall onto into the right-of-way,

[23:17] onto a car or, you know, into the street, sidewalk, that that those

[23:22] situations. Typically, if it's a private tree and it looks like it's dead in the

[23:26] backyard, we we don't get involved in those. I think we have um on a couple of

[23:31] occasions where it was very imminent that it could fall on a

[23:36] um on another property, but um

[23:41] overall, their suggestion is that we kind of stay out of that. Um we could

[23:47] James, I think we could simply we could add this to the prohibited street tree

[23:52] list as James as James mentioned. Um that really would only give us govern

[23:57] and governance on the street tree. I don't know we would have to we would

[24:03] have to definitely change the ordinance to make it so that they couldn't do it

[24:06] as a private street tree. James, anything to add to that?

[24:10] » Um I would I would think

[24:15] getting it on the prohibited list and then

[24:19] if I see

[24:22] trees being planted on private property and something doesn't look right

[24:26] and I can I would need something to cite that, you know, that can't be planted

[24:33] even on private on the private side of things.

[24:37] I just need clarification on that. And what I what my boundaries are and

[24:42] what I can enforce, so to speak. >> To Charlie's point about that, that

[24:49] feels like that's making you be the tree police. That seems like you have a lot

[24:53] of other things going on and that that would be a real

[24:57] challenge to go around peeking in backyards and

[25:01] » And also to go with what Charlie said is

[25:04] that this would be complaint driven, you

[25:06] know, so that we're not going to ask I don't think we would ever ask James to

[25:10] just go drive around and look for cottonwood trees, but more like if the

[25:13] neighbors are you know, if there's a complaint driven then if there is a

[25:16] complaint then it gives us an opportunity to to do something. We don't

[25:19] have anybody in the village that does any you know, sidewalk inspections or um

[25:24] uh uh long grass all of that stuff is

[25:27] complaint driven. So that that could be the same type of a situation. We could

[25:31] absolutely do that for sure.

[25:37] » So that would be more not just add cuz that's an easier administrative thing to

[25:42] add them to the prohibited street tree list because that's not an ordinance,

[25:45] but if we wanted to create no new plantings

[25:48] then that would need ordinance, right? >> I believe so since we don't currently I

[25:54] think it could be added to the nuisance ordinance that's

[25:58] already there. We could just add another line I again I don't know exactly how

[26:02] that works on the legal end of things, but we could certainly add it to that or

[26:05] we would have to create its own section, but

[26:08] adding it to the to the street tree list is an easy one because our ordinance

[26:12] currently states that it's a fluid document and if somebody wants a copy of

[26:16] it they have to contact me because we are changing that and James you know,

[26:20] James will chime in and say hey no, we can't we can't have this one on the list

[26:23] anymore. So that's an that's an easy one for sure to just put it on the

[26:27] prohibited list, but it doesn't Nobody I mean are people actually planting

[26:32] cottonwood trees anymore? I mean >> No, the nurseries

[26:36] don't offer them because to municipalities in particular because we

[26:41] don't nobody wants them in the public right-of-ways for the

[26:46] the hazard is they mature they just die. That's what they do and they don't break

[26:51] apart from the top down, they they'll break loose at the roots. So, they're

[26:55] just a known hazardous tree once they mature and

[27:01] nobody wants to deal with them in the public right-of-ways, so

[27:04] that's why the ones we we've identified are all within the drainages, retention

[27:09] areas where they're kind of out of the way and

[27:12] they they're old older trees. >> Sure, they're not in an area that they

[27:17] drop a branch and someone walking or a car or something along those lines which

[27:22] yeah, street trees. >> I discussed with Shawn, we do have some

[27:25] on private side of the Door Creek drainage through Community Park that

[27:30] could fall into the park. So, that's something I would be watching at

[27:35] watching and I I do monitor that edge cuz we're always removing some trees

[27:39] that kind of fall limbs that fall into the park.

[27:43] So. >> Okay, so that

[27:47] kind of covers that aspect of safety and I'm glad Kevin's here now too because

[27:52] maybe he's heard some things from the fire side about fire hazards of

[28:00] Use your There's some on the Yep, thank you.

[28:02] » Yeah, I'm sorry. We really don't talk about that type of stuff. It's so few

[28:05] and far between. In fact, when Charlie pointed it out, it kind of shocked me as

[28:09] much cotton as there was. But I do agree with Shawn and with the forester as far

[28:13] as putting them on the prohibited list and kind of placing it like on the on

[28:16] the complaint basis just like tall grass and stuff like that. No no no a nuisance

[28:21] item.

[28:29] » Um Are there questions, thoughts?

[28:36] » One thing in my travels of trying to collect information

[28:41] I was looking for a tree service to to call and I

[28:45] Google it and I picked the one that said save a tree because I like save a tree.

[28:49] And I just so happen to get talked to the the arborist that is

[28:53] actually treating the tree um next to Charlie's. And so that's where I got a

[28:58] little bit of the information as far as the cost and things go. So I believe

[29:01] Charlie that they're are they at least sounds like they have plans to treat

[29:05] that tree? >> Uh we have not heard back.

[29:08] » Okay. >> Like I said, we're still offering to

[29:10] help if she needs or if they need it.

[29:15] But again, the last conversation

[29:18] we had with her, um

[29:21] they were going to do it but it's a spring treatment. It's not a a fall

[29:24] thing. >> Yep.

[29:25] » Um so

[29:28] again, I'm I'm trying to solve a problem

[29:32] without having to go over the next step. And as far as

[29:37] um wood trees in the village,

[29:40] well, that tree shed enough cotton wood to see

[29:44] that I pulled cotton wood exactly out of my

[29:48] yard all year long. So

[29:51] you don't have to you don't have to buy it cuz you got a

[29:54] lot of wood shed. And community park, your trees down

[29:57] there, I know pickleball people came up to our

[30:01] park at Bicentennial because they couldn't play down there. It was

[30:04] shedding so bad that they were getting it in their mouths and stuff.

[30:08] All the rest. So and that's a nuisance.

[30:11] That's not That's not

[30:12] » Yeah. >> In In talking with um the arborist from

[30:18] Save a Tree, he he also said the same thing that Charlie did that cottonwood

[30:23] trees work uh a

[30:25] along a similar cycle to what oak trees work when it comes to dropping acorns.

[30:29] They work in they fluctuate every year. About every 5

[30:32] years they have a max drop. And it could have been this could have been the worst

[30:37] that it's been. Not saying that it's right or wrong. It's just they work in

[30:40] cycles. Some years it's it's less than others. Um

[30:44] And there's one other point that I wanted to make but I don't remember what

[30:47] that was. So

[30:50] I'll come back to that.

[30:56] » I know during dry periods there's like no burn

[31:00] orders that Does Is there ever a

[31:04] something like that during cottonwood season or is that No.

[31:12] Right. Yeah, that I mean Yeah, cigarette butts can light up all sorts of stuff.

[31:50] Charlie was just giving us the timeline for the trees for those of you online

[31:54] that it lines up with festival time when it

[31:58] drops the seeds when there's the most traffic and most people in the area and

[32:05] you know, kind of the highest risk time it seemed you know, that the

[32:10] most traffic. Peak. Yes. Peak of the park lines up

[32:15] with peak of the cottonwood.

[32:23] So I guess it seems we don't have like a consideration. It's just cottonwood tree

[32:28] update but it seems like consensus is definitely

[32:32] add to the prohibited street tree list because that is like a no-cost

[32:37] administrative

[32:41] portion. Is that kind of Is it Are we understanding that right?

[32:45] Doesn't >> Yeah, I mean it's a great place to

[32:48] start. Put it on that list. That way in case someone does call and say it's a

[32:51] nuisance, we can be like, "Well, it's on our prohibited tree list and this is how

[32:55] we would take care of it." So, yeah. I'm

[32:59] not sure if that gives us the ability to address a private tree.

[33:06] Um that's where I think I mean we can definitely put it on the the the street

[33:10] tree list, but we don't really have that problem. That's not where the problem

[33:13] lies. The problem lies with the private trees. So, I think that's where if we're

[33:17] looking to >> Yeah.

[33:18] » I think we would have to do some sort of an ordinance adjustment.

[33:21] » How does that work uh putting that in alignment with someone

[33:25] that has like an unkempt yard, like long grass, stuff like that? I mean, could we

[33:30] modify that ordinance or put it in with that?

[33:32] » I believe that's the same nuisance nuisance ordinance.

[33:34] » Nuisance >> ordinance. Um and that's where I would

[33:36] have to just check with legal and and see what we can do there. So, if that's

[33:40] the direction that you would like me to go, then I can come back to you in at

[33:44] the during the September meeting and tell you what that looks like.

[33:47] » Yep. Yep. >> So, direction that that I'm just to make

[33:51] sure the direction that I'm hearing is investigate whether we can add that to

[33:57] the current nuisance or what that would look like to make it

[34:01] Are we looking to make it illegal? >> No, not a not a legal tree.

[34:06] » A a cottonwood tree or how do we want >> It it's it's more of a nuisance. So,

[34:09] like there's male trees and there's female trees and there's ones that have

[34:13] that drop the the cotton and some that don't. So, it's got to be more of a

[34:17] nuisance. If someone would call and complain, then it can be addressed.

[34:21] » But then how are we addressing that? That's what That's what we need to You

[34:24] know, it's like are we going to Are we going to require Is the village part of

[34:27] this ordinance? Is the village going to require either that it be treated or

[34:31] removed? Are would >> Is that are those the two options that

[34:33] you guys are thinking? >> Yeah, cuz if if they want to keep their

[34:36] tree then treat it. If they don't want their tree then remove it.

[34:40] » So and and all that is based on a complaint driven. So just in this

[34:45] example, Charlie comes to to me to us and says, here we go, then we then we

[34:50] start taking taking a look at that tree. Is that what you guys are thinking? I

[34:53] just want to make sure I'm clear. >> 100%.

[34:56] » Jay? >> Yes.

[34:58] » Yeah. And Penny or or Amy, anything to add?

[35:03] » Um I'm a little Oh, is that me? I have an echo. Um okay,

[35:08] just taking this to an extreme. What if my lovely neighbor has a tree and they

[35:13] never rake and it's really dry and there's 5 in of leaves that might pose

[35:19] maybe not as combustible but the same type of um nuisance. I mean

[35:26] then what? Do we have to start really I mean this is one specific tree

[35:31] but there are other trees that could cause the same type of situation. I just

[35:37] want to be really careful that we don't you know, become this weird HOA type of

[35:42] community where I'm going to complain and you have to treat and I don't know.

[35:48] I'm just hesitant about jumping to that.

[36:00] » Thanks, Penny. Um

[36:03] Amy? Do you have any I just want to make sure

[36:06] that we get everybody online that

[36:13] wants to add in.

[36:17] Um cuz it's yeah, it's I just want to make sure we get an opportunity for

[36:21] everyone. I mean that that is um that is an interesting point because

[36:27] different trees can pose, you know, different types

[36:30] of hazards. Um, you know, things drop, things that

[36:35] are poisonous for dogs or

[36:41] Yeah, that that does kind of it opening up the door on

[36:47] you know, what constitutes a hazard, I guess, is um

[36:51] an interesting way to um to look at it.

[36:58] But also recognizing that, you know, that

[37:01] the fluff is quite um flammable.

[37:10] I mean, we could take it to the village board and get, you know, them to

[37:14] weigh in also and give us some

[37:19] additional information or direction.

[37:25] » Yeah, I I mean, the

[37:29] That one. Yeah, sorry. I I I mean, the fluff is flammable, just like Penny

[37:33] says. Everyone has trees, they all drop leaves. Leaves are flammable, too.

[37:38] Um, but this is a little different, I think,

[37:40] as far as cottonwoods go. We're trying to eliminate cottonwoods for reasons.

[37:45] Um, and there's a way to treat them so that they don't drop their cotton.

[37:49] Uh, every other tree that drops leaves, you can't treat them so they don't drop

[37:52] their leaves. It's kind of a different situation. This is more of a

[37:57] trying to put a leash on the cottonwood issue.

[38:02] Uh And I don't think it would be like

[38:04] people's leaves falling in their neighbor's property.

[38:07] Uh, because there's actually an avenue to treat this as far as treating the

[38:11] tree to eliminate the cotton. That's kind of the way I look at it.

[38:23] It's kind of our next steps, um

[38:27] we could have kind of a

[38:32] ask the village board or report up to the village board and just see if they

[38:35] have any feedback and ask

[38:38] the legal team what that might look like in a ordinance and how much that might

[38:42] cost. I don't know if we can authorize the cost for an ordinance or if that has

[38:46] to go through public hearing at plan commission also. I'm not sure where it

[38:50] lies in ordinance or if the village board I mean obviously the village board

[38:54] would have to approve an ordinance change also.

[38:56] » I guess to add to what I already saying I I would like to first hear the like

[39:01] the legal piece of that and for them to be able to

[39:05] share with us maybe addressing some of what Penny's

[39:09] saying does that then apply to all these other things that could happen

[39:13] that somebody could say, "Oh, you know, their dried grass because it's 4 ft tall

[39:18] is flammable and you know." So I think to get some guidance from our

[39:23] legal folk would be first step. I don't I feel

[39:26] like the village board might have the same

[39:29] kind of debate and discussion as we will and come to similar

[39:34] kind of conclusions. So I feel like we're the park rec and forestry group

[39:37] they want us to come up with a recommendation and I feel like we can do

[39:41] that. Um so I but I would think I would first

[39:44] just like to see what a legal Okay.

[39:48] » Yeah, I I I feel the same way. >> Yeah, I feel like let's

[39:51] let me tie this all together and um I can address the

[39:56] the ordinance part of things in the memo as well and you know, present the whole

[40:00] thing to the board. I think I feel like that they would just say the same thing

[40:04] that let's get more information, you know, when it comes to that ordinance

[40:06] part of things and and then

[40:09] to at the village board meeting we will have legal present as well. So if

[40:13] there's any outlying questions that happen, you know, during that discussion

[40:17] they can chime in at that point. So, um if everybody's good with it, then that's

[40:21] what I'll do. I'll get I'll just continue to get information on what that

[40:25] ordinance looks like and what that entails and

[40:28] you know, if they feel like this is a a good thing to try and force,

[40:32] you know, to try and force through is is just see what their general

[40:37] temperature is.

[40:41] » Okay. Other direction for Shawn on next steps here.

[40:49] Okay. All right. If nothing else, then it looks like we'll get some more

[40:53] information again and and

[40:56] it's good it's a spring treatment um time frame cuz we have some more time to

[41:02] figure out how this um might look for us.

[41:06] Yeah. Thank you, Charlie. Anything else on this item?

[41:11] All right. Then we can move to uh Shady Grove Park update.

[41:16] » Yeah, Shady Grove is done uh with the exception of we're still working through

[41:20] some electrical things um just to get power

[41:24] into the shelter and then power to the AED. There is currently not an AED in

[41:28] there yet, but that's because we we don't have power in there. That that

[41:31] that that will be addressed here in the next week or so and so then the park

[41:35] will be completely finished and ready to roll. So, we're in a good spot.

[41:42] Happy that this one's done. >> I drove by the other day and there were

[41:46] about four families there playing, so it's great. Um questions for Shawn on

[41:50] Shady Grove Park.

[41:53] All right. Then we'll keep moving to the Juniper Fields Parkland update.

[41:58] » So, had some initial discussion with uh Strand and Blake from Park Architecture

[42:03] um for the Juniper Fields and um it it's looking like we will

[42:12] yeah, the September meeting, Blake will be here and we'll start to talk about

[42:15] how that lays out and what we like with that. So, he was pretty encouraged by

[42:20] what was there um and what they designed kind of we want to maybe tweak some

[42:26] spots and maybe try and extend some some green space as much as we can into the

[42:30] hill kind of over by the pool, but um overall I think we're in a we're in a

[42:34] great place. So, something to look forward to for

[42:37] that budget meeting which will be in September, but we'll we'll bring Blake

[42:41] in and and kind of hammer that out.

[42:45] » Great questions on the Juniper Fields Parkland.

[42:51] All right, then we'll keep going um item eight discuss and consider Outlot five

[42:56] signage. There are a couple of mock-ups and quote estimate in the packet.

[43:05] » Yeah, just let me pull that up quick so I can

[43:08] share the renderings with you.

[43:15] Okay, I think Amy's on too, but we talked about this a little bit at

[43:20] previous meetings and um let me just share, hopefully,

[43:26] share the two items that we came up with.

[43:33] There we go.

[43:39] Okay, so this was the first option. Um

[43:43] I don't know if I can make this any bigger.

[43:46] Um let me let me Can I clarify, Shawn, is that the one that's considered the

[43:50] larger sign? >> Yes. Let me let me let me do the let me

[43:53] try this real quick to get you a better picture.

[44:05] » While he's doing that, I'll just say that um um

[44:10] the verbage that's being used on the sign is something that I put together

[44:15] based on what I found through the historical society, what I know, you

[44:20] know, personally and from the neighbors in that neighborhood,

[44:24] um and I tried to make it something that A,

[44:28] Shawn and I discussed how the sign should look so that it looks like other

[44:31] signs, you know, in our village, but also um I wanted to make sure that it

[44:37] touched on the history of Cottage Grove and more specifically the Fading Horse

[44:42] Farm that was there, but also touched on the conservancy and the different

[44:48] wildlife that we have here in the village and

[44:52] you know, that makes their home in that area.

[44:58] » So, as you can see in your screen, this is

[45:00] the larger of the two signs. I'll just show you quickly the smaller.

[45:05] Um I really really I think Amy did a great job with this and I really like

[45:10] how this particular sign lays out um in comparison. It's a bigger sign, so this

[45:16] this sign would be um in size compare comparison to uh the one at Bakken Park

[45:22] or our larger parks, our larger park signs. We have two different size signs.

[45:27] Take uh Red Hawk, that is that is more like it's even it's a little bit smaller

[45:31] than that, but um the one that I like is is it's going to be the larger sign. And

[45:37] I just think it laid out really well. I like the colors.

[45:40] Um one thing I just want to make sure we're okay with Horseshoe Park um in

[45:44] calling it that, um

[45:46] but also just looking for a recommendation. Uh I did put the two the

[45:51] two costs in there. Um let me pull that up. I don't remember what that was off

[45:57] the top of my head. >> 1,800 and 2,200.

[46:00] » Yeah, 1,800. Yeah.

[46:03] So. >> And Horseshoe Park obviously is an odd

[46:07] to the Fading Horse Farm, but also where that Outlot is specifically is the shape

[46:12] of a horseshoe.

[46:17] That does work out perfectly. >> Do you want a motion, Shawn?

[46:21] » Yeah, just Uh, the smaller sign is 18 18. The

[46:25] larger sign is 21 93. Just so that that's

[46:27] » Yeah, they're they're pretty comparable in price, but I like the layout of the

[46:30] larger sign. It's easier to read from from the road.

[46:34] So, my motion would be to go with the larger sign.

[46:38] » Second. >> Motion motion and second. Um, further

[46:42] discussion. Um, what does the

[46:48] budget look like for that? Or I think maybe some people might have been

[46:52] interested in contributing or how does it look?

[46:55] Um. Or would this be something that we'd

[46:59] build into the budget for next year and install next year? I guess is

[47:03] » Those are the two options. Yeah, I currently I don't have $2,000 laying

[47:08] around to do this right now. Um, I thought there was some talk of possibly

[47:12] donations, but if we don't have that this year and and if we if we purchase

[47:17] it we're looking at about 8 weeks to get it. So, either

[47:21] we try and do it in donations or it is a budget proposal for for next year, which

[47:26] I don't think that a $2,000 budget proposal is going to be a big deal.

[47:34] » Do we want to add on to the motion or just give Shawn direction from

[47:39] here on how we want to work work on it?

[47:43] » Do the Amy, is has there been any push for conversations about donations

[47:49] for the sign?

[47:53] » Um, I do have a neighbor that is willing to

[47:58] um donate some money. I was not sure on the pricing of the signs.

[48:04] Um so I can't I can't give you a dollar

[48:08] amount, but I think that they would throw in a good amount

[48:13] toward that. So

[48:16] » Yeah. >> Um even if we could get half of it

[48:21] I I haven't posed it to the neighborhood yet because we hadn't

[48:26] chosen the sign, but I feel like there would be people in that neighborhood

[48:30] willing to donate. I could be wrong, but I know for sure

[48:33] one of them has agreed to yes. >> Yeah, I mean I'm one of your neighbors

[48:37] and I probably would donate like 500 bucks to this

[48:40] um just because it is really nice. Uh but knocking on people's doors, I'm

[48:44] sure we would we would get donations, but if we sit on our heels the village

[48:49] will pay for it next year, so. Kind kind of the way to look at it.

[48:55] Can Can you remind me and then the other thing was I I forget where we were going

[48:58] to place this. >> Yeah, I don't think we came up with an

[49:02] exact location, but I believe inside the sidewalk.

[49:05] Um just inside the sidewalk is where what I would recommend, you know, a few

[49:09] feet off so somebody doesn't hit it on a bike or scooter, but then also not so

[49:13] far in that it obstructs the green space.

[49:15] And I would rather not put it on the between the sidewalk and the curb.

[49:19] That's just it's more likely to be damaged, snow plow, whatever in there,

[49:24] so. That's That would be what my thought

[49:26] would be. Somewhere kind of Amy, I don't know if you thought differently, but I

[49:29] thought like somewhere right smack dab in the middle, you know, between the two

[49:32] houses on the on each side of it. Um

[49:35] that's what I envisioned. >> Between the

[49:40] Oh, no. Cuz I thought when you and I first

[49:43] talked I don't think that's a good place only

[49:46] because there's so many kids that go there and play

[49:50] they have running baseball games there and kickball games. And so that would be

[49:54] kind of in where they play. So I was thinking more toward the curve.

[50:00] » I think we're we're talking about the same thing, but I just I'll bring it up

[50:03] here quick. >> Okay.

[50:04] » Just so that everyone >> Probably cuz I know you and I went over

[50:07] it and you put it where I would have put it.

[50:14] Maybe that is more toward the middle. >> Yeah.

[50:16] » it is kind of toward the

[50:19] I think they got it. >> I I don't know if we can place it

[50:22] between the curb and the sidewalk. Then it would be an obstruction if a car

[50:26] would hit it. >> No, the curve c u r v e

[50:29] curve curve on the curve on the on the turn on the

[50:34] » Yeah, right where that cursor is. >> Yeah, and I the A you what I was say I

[50:37] don't know if you can see my cursor, but I was thinking like somewhere

[50:40] » Yep. >> in this area here. So it'd be between

[50:42] the between the sidewalk and the trees. So not on the in the park row or in the

[50:46] terrace. You know, somewhere in this vicinity right here. It is a single

[50:50] sided sign, so it would be facing the street as opposed to you know,

[50:54] perpendicular to the street. So that's kind of the location that I was

[50:57] » what I That's exactly what I was thinking. Right there is I was saying

[51:01] curve not curb. >> Yep.

[51:02] » c u r v e, so yes, on the curve. Yes. Yep.

[51:07] » So do now that we've kind of picked a design and is it everybody is good with

[51:13] the >> We can vote on that.

[51:14] » Oh, we haven't voted yet. >> Right, we haven't voted on that part. Do

[51:17] we want to add something for the for the budget to that motion?

[51:21] » a question? >> Oh, yes, Penny, go ahead.

[51:24] » Okay, so excuse my ignorance. I have not been to this Dayton Natural Area, but

[51:30] what you're showing on screen, do people go in there and walk around?

[51:37] Is that true? Is are there paths and things for people to walk?

[51:41] » No, there's there's an ATC clearance. It is not a path. There's not paths back

[51:46] there. That is a That is incorrect.

[51:51] » So my question then is

[51:55] naming it Horseshoe Park to me park suggests a place that I can go

[52:02] and do park things. Um

[52:07] I love the nod to the Horseshoe. I think that part is awesome, but I'm just

[52:12] thrown a little bit by the park. And again, I haven't been into this

[52:15] wonderful area, so >> Horseshoe open space. I I mean it is

[52:20] people use it as an open space park. Like they play, like I said,

[52:25] pick up kickball games and they've go and hit some golf balls and

[52:30] they I don't know. We We fly kites out there.

[52:37] » And people do use it for recreation then.

[52:40] » Yeah. >> It's good.

[52:42] » Yep. >> I think and just to clarify Penny your

[52:45] question that it's the part that's mowed or the green space

[52:49] is like the park area, but the conservancy is like 20 acres, right?

[52:53] It's like that whole big area behind that that that's not really accessible.

[52:58] » Yeah.

[53:01] » Yeah, this this whole area, if you can see my cursor, this whole area is

[53:05] considered Dayton and it is dedicated parkland. So in our in our parks and

[53:11] open space plan it is even outlot five is considered parkland. So we could call

[53:16] it a park if we can call it whatever you want, but we could rightfully call it a

[53:21] park. >> And so maybe I don't know if you were

[53:24] thinking this maybe I'm assuming this Penny, but what you're saying is if we

[53:27] name it a park, it's a park and people are in it

[53:30] that's okay. And that they can use it somehow.

[53:36] Is that where you're kind of going or am I reading into that?

[53:39] Like if I I to start walking back in that 20 acres I can do that because it

[53:43] says it's a park.

[53:47] » I might be confused if I looked at the list of Cottage Grove parks and I went

[53:51] there and where's but Again, I'm not familiar. This is I know

[53:56] um you know

[53:59] this is a a project that Amy is driving and Kevin lives by it.

[54:05] I'm just not familiar enough with the with the acreage to know

[54:11] if park's a good name for it or not.

[54:16] » Yeah, I mean from what I understand it's it's a Faden I mean it's a park but it's

[54:20] more a natural area. Um you know, is park the right word for

[54:25] it? I don't know. Is natural area a better word for it? Horseshoe natural

[54:28] area? It's a lot of lot of verbage. Calling it

[54:33] a park is fine. I mean we have multi we have multi-use spaces.

[54:39] » I'm sorry, Kevin. >> Yeah, no, it's fine.

[54:42] Yeah, we have multi-use spaces and this is just one giant multi-use space for

[54:46] the kids in the neighborhood to play ball or frisbee or whatever.

[54:53] » It's if you imagine like

[54:58] like a kickball field that's the size that that general area

[55:03] is. That's the widest area. And so like I said

[55:09] you know people go there and hit golf balls, they go there and fly kites and

[55:16] but it's only that one space.

[55:21] Like it doesn't it's not it's big enough for a kickball field, it's not big

[55:26] enough for anything else. You can't play kickball and fly a kite.

[55:30] Um it's just an open space but that whole

[55:35] area is called Faden Natural Area. And Faden Natural Area runs from

[55:41] you know, the post office to Outlot 5 all the way down to

[55:47] um Overby uh Taylor Prairie Taylor Prairie School,

[55:52] yeah. I mean, it's it's that whole area. So, Outlot 5 is one

[55:58] lot within Faden Natural Area. >> So, would it would To me, it makes

[56:04] better sense to call it Faden Conservancy.

[56:09] Um part I believe, you know, part of all of this process is to maybe

[56:15] take Faden out of everyone's thought process as to something that's

[56:18] developable if that's a correct way to say that. So, to me, if we if we call it

[56:23] Faden Conservancy it that to me, that just means like it

[56:28] is what it is and this is what it's going to be. I don't disagree with

[56:31] Penny. If we start calling it a park, do do people then expect us to treat it

[56:36] more like a park and develop it like >> So, then it would it Yeah, so then it

[56:40] could be Faden Conservancy and Horseshoe Natural Area.

[56:48] » Yeah, I think we definitely don't want to give the impression that people

[56:51] should come and hike through all of these woods.

[56:56] Cuz we're not Yeah. That's kind of what we were trying to

[56:59] avoid a little bit. >> Right.

[57:03] » Well, although it does say on the sign something, "Please keep to the open

[57:07] space." >> Okay, that's a

[57:10] that is a good Yeah, if we can pair the naming with

[57:15] that the I think >> Yeah.

[57:17] » Or enforce it, yeah. >> Or if you can somehow think we're just

[57:20] renaming Outlot 5. It's not going to be called Outlot 5. It's going to be called

[57:24] something else, and that might be Horseshoe Park.

[57:28] Because if we say Faden Conservancy, then that's the whole area. Where if we

[57:32] say Horseshoe Park, it's just the area that's mowed.

[57:37] But I mean, as far as a park, we don't really have There's no

[57:41] we don't have to develop park parkland. We can just kind of leave it, too. So.

[57:45] » We can. It's just more about the about the appearance of what that's going to

[57:49] be. And it would even if we were to develop it, Outlot 5

[57:54] would be part of the park. So, I think we could call the overall area Staden

[58:00] Conservancy and call it good.

[58:04] You know, if everybody's okay with that. Amy?

[58:06] » I'm fine with that. >> I'm fine with that, too. Can I just One

[58:09] more thing. Um what do we call the woods behind the composting site?

[58:14] » Oaken Gate. >> Is it called what?

[58:17] Oaken Gate Park or just >> It is Oaken Gate Park. Yeah.

[58:20] » Okay. So, we do name that up there. Nobody That's not something that we do

[58:24] anything with other than >> Yep.

[58:27] The only difference is that in my mind would be the availability

[58:31] the the availability to develop Oaken Gate. We can't really develop because

[58:36] it's all trees. Staden, we could develop that if we wanted to. So, that's why I

[58:40] like I like the conservancy part of things. And if you guys are good with

[58:45] that, then I can I can have them redo the proof and we can I can bring that

[58:49] back in September. We can talk about that and then maybe between now and

[58:53] September Amy can have an idea of what we're looking you know, what we might

[58:57] have donated for that and make a decision as to purchasing this year or

[59:00] next year. >> Good compromise. I like it.

[59:04] » One thing on the sign, I was wondering if

[59:07] someone wanted to donate, do we Like I've seen in other places like a

[59:12] little plaque that says this bench was from this family. Like, is that

[59:17] something that we would want to put on the bottom of the sign? Like

[59:22] » Yeah. >> Like the the Murphy family or

[59:24] » Yeah. They do a really nice job of we could

[59:27] create like a a another hanging sign off of the bottom.

[59:31] And then that could be you know sign donated by and you know whoever is on

[59:37] there would be memorialized. Yeah, since this is a

[59:40] one-sided sign you could just put a plaque on the backside of it too.

[59:44] Yeah. I like that I mean if we're going to do

[59:46] it I like the idea of making sure that people can see that as well. You know so

[59:49] let's let's memorialize the donors and get them out there for if that's what

[59:53] we're going to do. So I can I I will add that it'll probably increase the cost a

[1:00:00] little bit but I will add have them add a donor panel to that a small donor

[1:00:04] panel. Like do we have any idea how how many people we think would be on

[1:00:11] there? Like that cuz that's going to decide the size of that sign.

[1:00:15] I mean we Amy do you think we're talking a handful excuse me a handful of

[1:00:19] families or 30 families? >> I can't that would donate.

[1:00:24] » Yeah. >> I can't honestly answer that. I only

[1:00:28] know of the one and you probably know who I'm

[1:00:31] talking about that specifically said >> Sure.

[1:00:34] » that he would donate a good chunk of it.

[1:00:39] » Well >> So again that was before I knew I think

[1:00:41] I threw out like $1,200 to him because I did not have any idea what the

[1:00:46] sign would cost but I figured it would at least cost that. So

[1:00:51] » Six thousand >> know. It has It has only been

[1:00:56] discussed in like what ifs at this point.

[1:01:00] » So >> But the last time I went to that

[1:01:02] particular guy he specifically said yes I'm still in.

[1:01:06] » So I think that um

[1:01:10] I don't think it's going to change the cost significantly but maybe between now

[1:01:14] and um the next one the next meeting we can

[1:01:17] figure out who those people might be and then I can get you know Amy if you can

[1:01:21] do that in the next couple weeks, um you know, just whoever's interested, and

[1:01:26] tell me who that is, I can just I can have that sign created

[1:01:29] uh along with the proof pretty pretty quickly.

[1:01:32] » So,

[1:01:37] » So, it might be um partially village, partially donation-funded, so then that

[1:01:41] would be built into next year's budget, kind of installation in the spring. Is

[1:01:46] that kind of a timeline that we think could be

[1:01:49] » depending on what what is if we how many funds we collect donate I mean, that I

[1:01:54] could have some some enough money left over in the budget to do it this year

[1:01:58] depending on how that looks. And I will 100% know that

[1:02:02] after we decide what, you know, if we have any donors.

[1:02:06] » Okay, so it looks like we have enough direction on the funding, um and we have

[1:02:09] a motion and second to approve the sign. We did make the slight change in

[1:02:14] Conservancy. Um

[1:02:17] Is there other any other things that I didn't capture in that, or are we any

[1:02:22] other comments or questions before we take a vote?

[1:02:29] All right, hearing none, all those in favor of the signage, say I.

[1:02:34] » I. >> I.

[1:02:36] » I. Any opposed? Any abstained? Motion carries. Thank you for

[1:02:43] the work on that, Amy and Sean. >> Amy did it all.

[1:02:47] Not all of it, most of it. >> And that historical

[1:02:50] » I did it. Yep.

[1:02:53] The Historical Society, um Paula Sieversen helped uh get me in

[1:02:58] touch with people through the historical society, but yes, there were

[1:03:04] I love the praise, but I didn't do it alone.

[1:03:09] » All right, great. Thank you. Um item nine then is discuss uh

[1:03:13] Fireman's Park master plan, which um there is another memo in the packet.

[1:03:20] Um There's some some various things we have

[1:03:24] to consider when looking at this park. So, Shawn, if you want to

[1:03:27] go over that memo. >> Yeah.

[1:03:29] Um again, another lengthy memo, not quite

[1:03:32] as bad as the first one. Um during the festival, we with help we kind of

[1:03:38] noticed that the driveway

[1:03:40] road going through the the park is in pretty bad shape and it's really kind of

[1:03:45] starting to heave in spots. So, rather than just look at

[1:03:52] fixing those individual spots, I just wanted the committee's thoughts on do we

[1:03:57] want to look at a bigger picture when it comes to Fireman's Park. And so, I I

[1:04:02] kind of gave you a few options here. Um

[1:04:07] so, the memo outlines uh addressing the condition of the driveway that runs

[1:04:10] through the park. Um it's kind of it's definitely outlived its useful life and

[1:04:15] we should consider whether the appropriate approach is to repair,

[1:04:18] um completely replace the driveway or take the opportunity to

[1:04:21] overall look at the park. Um so, option one is evaluate and repair, replace the

[1:04:26] worst sections. So, we would we would look at look at what's there

[1:04:31] the overall all of the driveway and identify the

[1:04:34] sections that were the worst in the poorest conditions and only only those

[1:04:38] areas in dire need of repair or replacement would be addressed.

[1:04:42] Um obviously, this would be the least

[1:04:44] expensive the least expensive option and it would extend the useful life of the

[1:04:48] driveway without making a significant investment. Um however, this approach

[1:04:53] does not address underlying conditions the entire of the entire driveway or

[1:04:57] provide opportunity to make broader improvements. So, one of the underlying

[1:05:01] conditions that we deal with is the waterline that goes through there. It's

[1:05:04] extremely low. It's only six

[1:05:07] maybe a foot maybe a foot down below. Um it's not it's not in great shape and

[1:05:13] so that would be something that we wouldn't address in in this.

[1:05:18] Um, option two um uh the exi- the existing driveway

[1:05:23] would be would be removed and replaced in its

[1:05:25] entirety. As part of that project, we would also recommend addressing related

[1:05:29] infrastructure needs including storm water management, ADA compliance, and

[1:05:34] improvements to the existing water service.

[1:05:36] Um, it's a larger investment um than than repairing only the worst sections,

[1:05:41] um but it would provide a long-term solution and allow the village to

[1:05:44] address several infrastructure needs at the same time.

[1:05:48] And option three is just doing a master plan. Um, just kind of really looking at

[1:05:52] the park. There aren't We don't have a ton of options there. Um, in things that

[1:05:56] we could do. Um, one that I that I really liked and I

[1:05:59] kind of spelled that out as option three um would be to re- relocate the

[1:06:03] concession stand, the restroom concession

[1:06:06] um area, create kind of like a two-story press box facility,

[1:06:11] um and we we we could move that to where the current red shed is.

[1:06:16] Okay? So, remove the red shed from that area and then relocate that red shed

[1:06:21] somewhere closer to the vicinity of where the

[1:06:24] existing um existing hamburger stand is. So, whether

[1:06:30] that be right in that location or maybe you know, it could be down the tree line

[1:06:34] a little bit closer. All that all that's up to be decided. Um, but the good thing

[1:06:39] about that is is that we could reuse that building. So, it could be

[1:06:43] disassembled and then reassembled um in a different location. Obviously,

[1:06:47] we need new concrete to put down there, but um you know, I I we don't like the

[1:06:51] flow of what that provides right now, but it was the only option obviously

[1:06:55] when it was built. So, putting that our storage facility kind of right in the

[1:06:59] middle of the ball park and right in the middle of all the traffic areas isn't

[1:07:03] optimal, but um

[1:07:06] it's it's it's just what we have to deal with. So, if we were to go that route,

[1:07:10] those would be the the the changes that I would suggest.

[1:07:14] Um don't have costs on any of this stuff

[1:07:16] cuz I wanted to get your your guys's opinion on this before we moved moved

[1:07:20] anything forward. And this could possibly, depending on the direction we

[1:07:23] go, it's either a budget proposal in the in the simplest form if we just take

[1:07:28] care of the problem areas for next year, or it's a bigger picture item if we go

[1:07:32] option three and go, you know, like and where that fits into the financial

[1:07:37] management plan, I can't tell you that. So,

[1:07:41] um ultimately, uh I just wanted to get your your thoughts on this and which

[1:07:45] direction you guys would like me to move.

[1:07:51] » And >> before anybody jumps in, option three,

[1:07:53] that is just It was just something that I pulled out that we're not locked into

[1:07:57] anything. I mean, there could we if if option three is what you wanted, we

[1:08:01] would definitely investigate this further and make sure that that was, you

[1:08:04] know, the direction that we wanted to go. In

[1:08:07] um in talking with Blake, he kind of looked at the overall park and, you

[1:08:11] know, the farther we get line shelter, nothing that we need to do there. The

[1:08:15] shelter's in great shape. It's old, but it's in it's in really sound shape. And,

[1:08:19] you know, I wouldn't Moving the playground uh we we like the playground

[1:08:22] where that's at. So, rest of the park I I I think I don't think we'd touch.

[1:08:27] That's all I got.

[1:08:32] » Okay.

[1:08:35] Uh did you think to talk to the festival chair and see if any of these ideas

[1:08:40] would be intrusive to the festival? >> Negative.

[1:08:45] » No. Um

[1:08:47] the sh- the shed is is nice where it is cuz it's kind of in the back corner.

[1:08:52] At some point, the hamburger stand's going to have to get replaced.

[1:08:56] Um when that happens, does it need to be

[1:08:58] there? Uh there were talks of taking the

[1:09:02] Oldtimers Pavilion and leveling that and building something nicer there,

[1:09:05] something like what we had at Bakken Park.

[1:09:08] Um, two-story so that people can kind of observe the field and stuff like that.

[1:09:14] Issue, Fireman's Park is called Fireman's Park

[1:09:18] because the fire department owned it. Years ago it was donated to the village

[1:09:23] for a dollar in lieu of maintenance and repairs.

[1:09:26] Uh, as far as the Fireman's Festival goes,

[1:09:30] it used to be this great big thing and it's had to shrink over time because of

[1:09:34] things that were done in this committee. I'm fortunate enough to say and I don't

[1:09:38] want to get on that soapbox and reap it, but we used to have a old-fashioned

[1:09:41] horse pull for almost 60 years and we can't have it anymore because there's a

[1:09:46] retention pond where the horse pull was. Um,

[1:09:52] talking about leveling the shelter, talking about moving a shed and putting

[1:09:58] it right where our beer tent is. Uh, I don't like talking about it until

[1:10:03] the festival's done. Uh, the thing that we need to do for

[1:10:06] safety's sake is to repair the sections that are damaged. It would be nice just

[1:10:10] to replace all the asphalt. And then, who knows, 5 10 years from now

[1:10:15] when the festival's over, if it is over at that time,

[1:10:19] to look at building a bigger or larger shelter and putting it closer to the

[1:10:23] field. Uh, maybe looking at paving that whole area back there where the beer

[1:10:27] tent goes for parking, something like that.

[1:10:30] Uh, but like I'm tasked with carrying the festival for the next five years and

[1:10:35] who knows, someone might want to pick it up after that. Um, I got five more

[1:10:40] years, we'll get it get it to 100, but I really want Cottage Grove to retain the

[1:10:44] ability to keep a festival going. Uh, and then moving the moving the food

[1:10:49] shelter or the food stand on the back side of the backstop,

[1:10:54] people are going to have to walk from where the beer tent is all the way over

[1:10:58] to the far corner to get any food. It's I'm I'm not for it.

[1:11:03] I I would like to see the asphalt fixed at minimum and maybe the driveway redone

[1:11:07] at best. But as far as a master plan goes, I don't know how you talk about

[1:11:11] that uh until after the festival's done.

[1:11:21] » I think it's very valuable that you're on this committee coming because I think

[1:11:26] uh having that perspective and that area is

[1:11:29] really important. So, I appreciate your um

[1:11:32] you're being on the committee and uh

[1:11:35] because we like to I mean, that's exactly why this is on the agenda so we

[1:11:39] can talk about um you know, what we want to make the right Yeah.

[1:11:46] right um decision for all the users of the park. So, I think um you know,

[1:11:50] that's why it's here so we can talk about it. So, thank you.

[1:11:56] Other thoughts?

[1:12:00] » So, I was when I read it, Sean, thanks for providing us with that.

[1:12:04] Um you know, obviously cost and I don't

[1:12:07] know what and this is we're talking about for next year, right?

[1:12:11] » Correct. >> Um

[1:12:12] » Correct. >> So, you'd have to get the TBDs to be

[1:12:16] actual dollar amounts for us to consider what direction we want to go with that.

[1:12:22] » Correct. Um

[1:12:25] you know, so my first thought was you know, number two because if you you

[1:12:27] know, all of that stuff needs to be done anyway and it's you know, it feels like

[1:12:32] that you know, obviously option one is the

[1:12:35] the cheaper route, but it it's going to be needing to be readdressed sooner than

[1:12:39] later the rest of the pieces found in option two. Is that fair to say?

[1:12:43] » Yes. >> So, I just rather

[1:12:46] do that if if it's somewhat cost effective to do

[1:12:51] that. So, that was my thought. I was >> Option I'm sorry, Jay. Option two?

[1:12:55] » Okay. >> Um and then

[1:12:58] the only other thing I had was for as long as I've been on here, I've

[1:13:02] heard about the hamburger stand and how it's fallen apart and it wiring is

[1:13:08] unsafe and it's not ADA accessible and at some point I think we need to

[1:13:13] move that forward sooner than later. Um

[1:13:16] but that

[1:13:19] doesn't have to be in this option. >> And I think we can we can select more

[1:13:24] than one option here, too. >> Right. I was just going to say I'm

[1:13:27] trying to come up with a variation. >> Yeah. So, I mean, whether that's option

[1:13:30] one or we just And so, just I just today um

[1:13:35] looking at option one, what we're I just got this from Kyla, we're looking at

[1:13:39] roughly 35,000 to replace the There's two

[1:13:43] » So, that's significant. >> two large areas. So, 35,000 to replace

[1:13:48] that. And again, that is just fixing the blacktop that that is there. Um option

[1:13:53] two we'll have to dive into that cuz that's obviously under some underground

[1:13:57] stuff. Um and and we can and we can do either option one or option two and

[1:14:02] still look at master planning option three because again, this has to be

[1:14:06] inserted, you know, this is likely a very high dollar amount. Um so, this

[1:14:11] would need to be inserted in the finan- financial management plan. And right

[1:14:15] now, I think, you know, just for example, I think the Heidi you can help

[1:14:18] with this, but I think the community park shelter isn't has been punted until

[1:14:22] like 2030. So, you know, where this is going to

[1:14:26] fall into that plan, you know, we could be talking 20 years before this actually

[1:14:29] gets funded. Um to So, obviously the the the quickest fix is to

[1:14:34] do either one or two. >> Yep.

[1:14:36] » And two, you know, if if one is 35,000, two's got to be

[1:14:41] » Double that. >> double at least.

[1:14:43] » Okay. >> Um and that's

[1:14:46] And again, I can investigate that and we can look at what that looks like. It's

[1:14:49] going to take probably some money to do that to get Strand involved and really

[1:14:52] look at, you know, are we talking about curbing and you know, what are we what

[1:14:56] are we all or we or you know, would be included in in doing the infrastructure

[1:15:00] stuff. So again, absolutely get a better price for that.

[1:15:06] » Right. And if we're adding curbing and things like then that's going to be

[1:15:11] storm water calculations and um

[1:15:16] » Yeah, I mean I like to um

[1:15:19] because we're getting a lot more done, but I honestly think doing just the

[1:15:22] option one would be better. Cuz if we start doing curbing and then

[1:15:26] have to do storm water retention and all these other things

[1:15:30] » It's a lot of money. >> it's going to take up the space that the

[1:15:32] festival uses as far as the beer tents go. As far as where the fencing goes,

[1:15:37] where the rides go, where where everything

[1:15:40] we we put a lot into a small area now since we lost that whole area across the

[1:15:45] street. Uh and I I I liked I like seeing the pickleball courts over there. I like

[1:15:51] seeing the tennis courts. I like seeing that park finished. But it does squeeze

[1:15:55] us into the kind of the area that we use. So squeezing us even more with

[1:16:00] um something that's going to be impossible. It's going to end up killing

[1:16:03] the festival and I don't want it to do that.

[1:16:06] Um we we just want the asphalt fixed,

[1:16:08] honestly.

[1:16:12] » And the Yeah, the the intention it's not the

[1:16:17] intention of any of this to affect the festival. One one iota.

[1:16:22] Um I did have a conversation with the the fire chiefs just about whether we

[1:16:27] need even need that through road through there, whether that needs to be there.

[1:16:33] Um and according to the the fire chiefs it does need to be there. And and I'm

[1:16:37] not 100% sure, but it some of it is that it's platted

[1:16:42] that there's a street through there. So, if you go on Google, it says it's a

[1:16:45] complete through street. So, there could be

[1:16:48] you know, the village could replat that and that might change things, but right

[1:16:53] now it is considered a through street there. So,

[1:16:56] um Yeah,

[1:16:59] again, just options in what we're doing. Option three is the pie in the sky type

[1:17:04] of a scenario and obviously several years down the road. What the only

[1:17:08] difference between two and three or one and two is how much are we going to

[1:17:13] stick into the infrastructure underground and does that affect option

[1:17:17] three? You know, because we've stuck let's just

[1:17:20] say $100,000 into this and then if we decide down the road to move it and do

[1:17:25] things different, have we wasted that money? I don't think that we have, but

[1:17:29] it's just what I want you guys to think about.

[1:17:35] » Thanks, Shawn. So, it kind of looks like maybe we need to just firm up option

[1:17:41] one's cost. Yeah.

[1:17:46] » Do we Do you want me to investigate option two's cost? So, that would be

[1:17:50] replacing all of it um and then doing some infrastructure

[1:17:55] improvements as well.

[1:17:59] » I mean, maybe if Strand I don't want Strand to spend a whole time a lot of

[1:18:03] time on it initially. Like, do they think we'd need to make

[1:18:07] more storm water retention just like a very high level general like if we

[1:18:13] really do all of this, are we going to have to make more ponds? Is it going to

[1:18:16] like significantly affect the footprint of what we have currently? I I guess

[1:18:22] that might just be interesting information to know before they do like

[1:18:25] a whole deep dive into like real hard costs.

[1:18:29] » And I think that we can get general answers from either just Kyla on that.

[1:18:33] Like, are we talking an additional storm water pond for this? I can't believe

[1:18:37] that we are because we're not we're not adding any impervious surface

[1:18:41] to it. Um right now any water that collects just runs off to the side. So,

[1:18:46] they would push it through a you know a storm sewer likely. I'm not a storm

[1:18:50] person storm water person but likely into the pond that is already there.

[1:18:54] But, I think I can get some answers on that and general numbers without a whole

[1:18:59] lot of cost any cost being incurred. So, if that's if you guys are good then

[1:19:05] do you want do you want to insert a master plan into the overall picture?

[1:19:12] Not that we have to make that decision now but do you want me to investigate

[1:19:15] that for the future that you know maybe next year we at budget time or financial

[1:19:20] management plan time we we insert that into it or do you want to just leave

[1:19:24] that alone completely for now? >> I would be okay talking to you about it

[1:19:28] as far as the festival aspects go so that we don't

[1:19:33] kill the festival. And Kevin, that's never that's never a

[1:19:37] part of this. >> I No, no, no, no. You've said that like

[1:19:39] three times now and I do I I just want to be clear that nothing is going to

[1:19:43] happen down there without approval of everybody involved.

[1:19:46] » I I fully understand but if a shed gets put where the beer tent goes, if the

[1:19:50] hamburger stand gets removed and moved down closer to the backstop, it all

[1:19:54] affects the festival. So, just so I'm saying that.

[1:20:00] » Um maybe in the interim it might be I don't know if we can

[1:20:07] if we should put it on an agenda or if it's just asking like um outreach to the

[1:20:12] stakeholders in the So, we got fire and festival and hometown and MG baseball

[1:20:21] like kind of the stakeholders of the park.

[1:20:24] Um maybe >> Hm? Pickleball group that was part of

[1:20:29] the park. >> Right. Across the street but

[1:20:32] um kind of get those

[1:20:35] um stakeholders together to see if there's like cuz that I mean

[1:20:41] like I've heard the hamburger stand situation has been talked about forever,

[1:20:45] and so by not investigating how much it's going to

[1:20:49] cost, we're just going to keep talking about how

[1:20:52] it's like needs to be replaced. So

[1:20:57] » Well, I can tell you right now that it's working

[1:21:00] fine enough for festival. But I I would like to see something

[1:21:04] nicer like what we have at Backen Park.

[1:21:09] But we have to be careful at how we do that and when we do it so that we don't

[1:21:13] remove something and leave something not there when festival happens.

[1:21:18] Or if we put a date on it are people going to think that's going to be the

[1:21:21] end of festival? So we just got to be careful.

[1:21:25] » Right, and you know, MG baseball, too. We don't want to be doing something like

[1:21:30] right in the middle of their season and um

[1:21:34] and what their needs are if they wanted to contribute some portion for what, you

[1:21:38] know, if they needed some extra space on it that

[1:21:44] it would just be interesting to hear from stakeholders like how how we can

[1:21:49] recommend to the village board when to put in anything any funding toward that

[1:21:55] if if they would like to. I don't I guess get their input and bring it back

[1:22:01] to us and we can help pass a recommendation and

[1:22:07] up if we want to add something to the next

[1:22:11] financial management plan, but in the meantime, it seems like just doing this

[1:22:15] necessary driveway work is kind of >> Yeah, we we just wanted the asphalt

[1:22:19] fixed. This does not have to be an opportunity to make a master plan.

[1:22:23] And on the flip side of that, I don't want to just fix it and not have people

[1:22:28] have an opportunity to look about look at other changes. So, I you know, I

[1:22:33] don't disagree with that at all and and great point about the stakeholders

[1:22:38] um and and getting you know, if we were to

[1:22:41] go to the master plan level, absolutely would I would include MG into that and

[1:22:46] as well as all the chiefs that were in there. So, we wouldn't do anything you

[1:22:49] know, like in the master plan wouldn't be a master plan until it's approved by

[1:22:53] all of the folks that are involved. And I just yeah, to get something out of the

[1:22:57] district I you know, I don't know that that's going to happen, but we I I would

[1:23:00] definitely want to ask them because uh like Kevin Connor, you know, he want

[1:23:04] he wanted to see like a uh a locker room space so that the kids

[1:23:08] could shower and change and things like that and you know, that's a huge

[1:23:11] building as opposed to just a concession stand, you know, with with a few

[1:23:15] bathrooms or whatever. So, um I think we can you know, we can do one or two and

[1:23:20] still look at three down the road. You know, if that's what you want to do. If

[1:23:23] you don't want to even look at a master plan, we don't have we don't even have

[1:23:26] to address that. I just wanted you guys to have the all the thought you know, as

[1:23:30] many thought processes as we could before we

[1:23:33] put money into something.

[1:23:37] So, am I hearing um

[1:23:40] investigate option two more and just see what that looks like

[1:23:45] uh an approximate cost with option two? I mean, we know roughly

[1:23:50] option one is a roughly 35,000 to replace a couple of those really bad

[1:23:54] spots, but then we're you know, we throw in the infrastructure that's going to

[1:23:58] change that. So, is that what I'm hearing? Check on two.

[1:24:01] » Yes, I think >> Okay.

[1:24:02] » Heidi said it well is that there's no cost

[1:24:05] » Right. >> associated with that. So, that's

[1:24:07] important. And so, just yeah, let's see and I think it is important to maybe

[1:24:12] back to Kevin's point to learn is like, oh, you're going to need to put in

[1:24:15] retention ponds and things like that. Um you know, that

[1:24:19] that's a little bit more involved than just replacing the asphalt and I would

[1:24:23] then probably lean just towards doing replacing the asphalt, but

[1:24:27] good to have the information.

[1:24:34] » You think you'll be able to have that for budget so we can consider adding

[1:24:37] that? Okay, great. >> I think we can.

[1:24:40] I definitely, yep. >> Okay.

[1:24:42] » I see no reason why we can't I I can't have that for budget time.

[1:24:46] » Great. Thank you. Any other thoughts on um

[1:24:49] on then Fireman's Park?

[1:24:54] All right, then uh we'll move to item 10, director's report.

[1:24:59] » All right, cool. Um fall winter guide is out now.

[1:25:03] Um new classes, special events, and department information there. So, if you

[1:25:08] haven't had a chance to download that, please do.

[1:25:10] Um our flag football unfortunately has started. It's all good

[1:25:15] and bad at the same time cuz I mean summer's over, but

[1:25:17] um that's where we got 15 15 teams um with grades K through eight. We got a

[1:25:23] few young ladies playing this year, not as much as not as many as I'd like to

[1:25:27] see, but we are getting some more um participation

[1:25:31] um from girls in our flag football program. Um

[1:25:35] we've added some new enrichment classes this fall for both adults and youths

[1:25:38] youths. Did I just say youth? Youths.

[1:25:44] Um we're we're trying out a a company called Kid

[1:25:48] um Sci or excuse me, Club Sci Kids, which will be offering uh geology,

[1:25:53] fossils, and rocks at Granite Ridge. And we're we're going to be doing some 3D

[1:25:58] printing offerings at Glacial Drumlin. So, we're we're excited to to do some

[1:26:03] new opportunities and those are definitely areas that we are not

[1:26:06] covering right now. Um we added three classes for our watercolor with Betty,

[1:26:11] which that that was just amazing. The first one filled immediately and we had

[1:26:14] a waitlist um and interest and that continues to grow. So, we actually when

[1:26:19] I left we were doing a watercolor class at at MSB now.

[1:26:24] Um, we've also partnered with um, Lindsey at

[1:26:27] Expressively You in Deerfield do offer some monthly canvas painting classes and

[1:26:32] some pop-up art programs. Um, back by popular demand is our puzzle

[1:26:36] exchange competition. Um, we're partnering with the puzzle

[1:26:39] company for an event um, with the theme being I love Wisconsin. So, dress in

[1:26:44] your favorite Wisco team swag gear, whatever thing cheese heads and badger

[1:26:49] colors. So, more information on when that date is. Um, we just uh, last week

[1:26:53] we had our fourth annual community night out. Um, was a was a good big success.

[1:26:58] We had incredible wea- weather. Um, with good vendors there cotton candy

[1:27:03] and more. Um, chamber helped us a ton with that so we appreciate their work

[1:27:07] and con- continued support from Rugby for hosting the movie again this year.

[1:27:11] So, this year I don't know if you're down there but we put the movie um, on

[1:27:15] the competition side so on the east side east field and folks were able to sit in

[1:27:19] the bleachers and watch the movie from there or they could sit on the field as

[1:27:22] well. So, we had a good turnout. Um, tomorrow night Rockin' and Bockin'

[1:27:28] um, Nirvana. We got um, sponsored thankfully from Lauf and Berg

[1:27:33] Lawn Care as well as Strand. Um, it's the band is Nirvana. So, it's a

[1:27:38] 90s cover band. So, hopefully, you know, Jay will don some um, some flannel and

[1:27:45] um, get down there. Music is from 6:00 to 8:00. It's supposed to be a beautiful

[1:27:48] night. Um, we got food like five food trucks are scheduled to be there. We'll

[1:27:51] see actually how many show up. Um, and then the Lions Club will be there

[1:27:55] selling malt beverages. Um, so we're excited for that tomorrow

[1:27:59] night. That that should be a lot of fun. Wear your flannel. Heidi, you got lots

[1:28:02] of flannel? >> Yep.

[1:28:03] » Yep. Okay. Um,

[1:28:05] on the park side um, staff has been helping with uh, helping James and doing

[1:28:10] some pruning and clean up, aerating and overseeding our sports field. Um we've

[1:28:14] had some irrigation head issues that we've been taking care of, creating the

[1:28:18] flag football fields, um doing some tree watering at Shady

[1:28:22] Grove, and then also we I don't know I think I may have told you about we there

[1:28:27] was a commercial shot at Backen Park at the Wheels Park

[1:28:31] um two or three weeks ago.

[1:28:33] Um they were shooting a commercial for hacky sack, believe it or not.

[1:28:37] Um so we kind of cleaned things up and we got rid of some the wood chips that

[1:28:40] were in the entrance area and we put stone in there because that's just a

[1:28:44] it's a huge maintenance issue, but um James has been out uh doing a lot of

[1:28:49] pruning throughout the village. We got a an

[1:28:52] extensive list from the post office about trees that are hitting postal

[1:28:56] vehicles, and so we're kind of trying to attack some of that stuff.

[1:29:00] And we're kind of getting ready to get cranked up for the winter when we when

[1:29:03] we're really out doing a whole ton of pruning.

[1:29:07] I think that's all I got for now.

[1:29:11] » Not going on. Thanks, Shawn. Any questions for Shawn on his report?

[1:29:18] All right. And then we'll move to item 11, future agenda items. So we'll have

[1:29:22] um Juniper Fields Parkland, and we'll have budget.

[1:29:27] Does that kind of sum up major items?

[1:29:31] » Uh we'll have the sign, uh Zayden sign. We'll bring that one

[1:29:35] back. And then was there one other one? >> Oh, the cottonwood tree.

[1:29:39] » Cottonwood tree, yep. >> Yep. So cottonwood legal

[1:29:43] things about that. Um Anyone else have anything else for next

[1:29:48] agenda?

[1:29:51] All right. Then uh we'll be back uh to our regular schedule um

[1:29:56] Thursday, September 24th.

[1:30:02] All right. If there's nothing else then all we have left is item 12.

[1:30:07] » Motion to adjourn.

[1:30:10] » I'll second. >> Motion and second to adjourn. That's

[1:30:13] non-debatable. All those in favor say aye.

[1:30:14] » Aye. >> Aye.

[1:30:16] » Aye. >> Thanks so much everybody for the good

[1:30:19] conversation this evening. I appreciate it. Hopefully, we'll see you tomorrow at

[1:30:22] back in.

[1:30:27] » Recording stopped.

08/26/2026 Parks, Recreation, & Forestry Committee

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