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[0:16]
Welcome Rick
[laughter]
[0:25]
everybody. Okay.
>> Good evening everybody. I'd like to call
[0:29]
the August 12 uh 2006 regular council
meeting to order at 700 p.m. Would you
[0:36]
please stand for the pledge pledge of
allegiance?
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[0:45]
republic for which it stands one nation
under God, indivisible with liberty and
[0:53]
justice for all.
Okay, Sher, would you please call the RO
[0:59]
» here?
[1:02]
» Here, Mr.
>> Melly
[1:04]
» here.
>> Mr. Richmond
[1:05]
» here.
>> Mr. V
[1:06]
» here.
>> Thank you, Sherry. Next up is reading
[1:10]
and disposal of the journal. Has
everyone had a chance to review the
[1:14]
minutes? And are there any recommended
changes or updates?
[1:18]
» I had one change.
[1:23]
» Sorry, Mr. Vincent.
[1:34]
Uh the six I think it might be
>> no page four I'm sorry. Um
[1:42]
the ordinance uh 2026 31 it's about one
two
[1:49]
the end of the fourth sentence. I think
we should just add out of the production
[1:52]
line quicker.
[1:57]
» So what would be that set?
>> So at the time it was first discussed,
[2:00]
it was going to take 30, this is
regarding the generator.
[2:03]
» So at the time it was first discussed it
was going to take 33 weeks to get it,
[2:05]
but Mr. Dewater mentioned that they were
going to try to get one for us out of
[2:09]
the production line quicker, meaning
they were going to pull one out of many
[2:13]
that [clears throat] they were making.
>> Thanks for the clarification. Any
[2:16]
others?
Okay. I'd like to entertain a motion to
[2:20]
approve.
>> Motion to approve as amended. Second.
[2:23]
» Okay. We have a motion approved by
council president. Seconded by Mr.
[2:25]
Richmond. Sh.
>> M.
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» Yes.
>> Mrs. Irish class.
[2:29]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Yankee.
[2:30]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Elliott.
[2:31]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Richmond.
[2:33]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Vincent.
[2:34]
» Yes.
>> Okay. Uh, next up is action upon any
[2:38]
matter which any resident may wish to
present to council. And I see some very
[2:41]
colorful residents in the audience. They
may wish to uh say something. I also see
[2:47]
for judge. So, let me start. Would
anybody like to speak in the orange
[2:51]
attire this evening?
>> Yeah, I would. Would you please
[2:55]
introduce yourself for the record?
>> Yes. David Morad. I'm a a resident of
[3:00]
Morland Hills. I am also an educator in
higher education for 20 plus years and I
[3:06]
have two young children who will be
going to the Orange Public Schools uh
[3:10]
very shortly. Um, the school district is
here about a levy that will be on the
[3:15]
ballot in the fall. And as a resident,
educator, and parent, I fully support
[3:21]
it. The Orange School District has not
passed a general operating levy since
[3:25]
2011. That levy, 5 mills, has been in
effect for roughly 14 years. And in that
[3:30]
time, property tax revenues for the
district have risen only modestly, less
[3:35]
than a million on average per year, or
roughly one and a half%. Meaning they
[3:40]
have also failed to keep up with
inflation which ran at over two and a
[3:44]
half% during that same time. And it's
that loss against inflation effect that
[3:49]
I try and show a table chart in one of
the handouts.
[3:54]
As I speak, the elephant in the room
with any levy discussion is property
[3:58]
taxes. And I recognize some commun
community members must be asking
[4:02]
themselves, how do schools need more
money? Property values have exploded
[4:08]
over the past 10-15 years. And since
levies come from property taxes on such
[4:12]
values, doesn't that mean that the
schools have seen a windfall of cash?
[4:16]
The short answer is no. Some small
gains, yes, but not enough to keep up
[4:22]
with inflation and certainly enough not
enough to match the skyroing
[4:26]
skyrocketing home valuation increases.
The more complicated answer lies with
[4:30]
Ohio's House Bill 920 enacted in 1976,
which generally holds that such school
[4:36]
levies collect a fixed or restricted
number of dollars rather than a fixed
[4:40]
rate. Thus, even if property values
rise, the amount collected can stay
[4:47]
roughly the same. For orange, this means
the skyrocketing home values do not
[4:52]
equate to similar gains in school
district revenues. The primary chance
[4:56]
for additional revenue growth comes from
new construction and then a relatively
[5:00]
small amount of unvoted millillage. To
see how this plays out, just take the
[5:05]
2024 Kyoga County property reappraisal,
which recorded a 32% increase in county
[5:11]
home values. For Orange District, the
assessed value increase wasn't as high,
[5:17]
more around 20%.
From 1.26 26 billion to 1.51 billion, an
[5:23]
increase of roughly $250 million. Yet,
none of that money, or next to none of
[5:30]
it, is going to the schools.
Again, House Bill 920 reduces the rate
[5:37]
on voted levies to offset rising values,
leaving only the district's 5.2 mills of
[5:43]
unvoted millage to collect on that
increased value. That millage produced
[5:48]
roughly $1.3 million in additional
school revenue, about 1.5% of the
[5:53]
property value rise. In short, it's a
onetime step increase of roughly 2%
[5:59]
against a potential tax base increase of
20%. I can give you my own personal
[6:05]
story. My property taxes rose in that
rep reappraisal by 20%. To almost
[6:11]
$1,000.
You would think Orangeville school
[6:14]
districts would see a lot of that. They
see roughly $160 of that. Why? How? How
[6:20]
can this be? Where does the rest of it
go? It's Ohio, so it's complicated. But
[6:26]
one answer is that it simply gets
shifted around, transferred among
[6:30]
neighbors rather than generating any new
tax revenue. Here's one example. how I
[6:35]
perused just out of curiosity a few
multi-million dollar properties in
[6:40]
Morland Hills Orange District area and
found several whose property taxes did
[6:44]
not shift much at all, much less than
the 20% rise that mine did. There was
[6:49]
also at least one multi-million dollar
property whose tax burden actually fell
[6:55]
during that period by nearly eight times
the amount that mine went up.
[7:00]
I am not calling out any properties and
I'm not naming names. I'm simply
[7:05]
explaining how the system works that
it's a shift between neighbors often
[7:10]
rather than any revenue uh generated. So
in conclusion, the reality is true. Ohio
[7:17]
has a very real property tax problem,
but one reason is a problem is because
[7:22]
it's almost by design that the schools
will be perennially lacking money. by
[7:27]
design that revenues cannot keep up with
costs. The cost of labor, materials that
[7:33]
always are rising in the econom economy,
but revenues are always always capped.
[7:39]
» Respectfully, I have to ask you to wrap
it up because we we usually
[7:42]
» none of this I got one small paragraph
and then I'm done. None of this is
[7:46]
orange school's fault. None of this is
the fault of Orange leaders and
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absolutely none of it is the fault of
our children and of our students. the
[7:54]
people in this room, the people of
Morland Hills, we can't resolve the
[7:58]
state issues, but we can resolve
hopefully the school levy issue from our
[8:03]
own end. I I think we can do that and I
believe we should. I thank you for your
[8:07]
time. There are additional um uh tables
and slides that contain a lot more
[8:14]
factual information about what's
happening at the school district, where
[8:18]
levies have been over the past 20, 30,
40 years, how it's been 15 years since
[8:24]
uh Orange went to the voters for a levy
and so on and so forth. If you have
[8:28]
questions, I or definitely those on the
school board, I would be able to take
[8:32]
them.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mor.
[8:33]
» Thanks. Or anybody else like to speak
this evening? Yeah, I'll yield some of
[8:37]
my time to the Orange School since
that's probably more important. I make
[8:41]
mine shorter. I wasn't planning on
talking today. I was just planning on
[8:45]
introducing myself, but since you give
me an opportunity, I will.
[8:49]
» My name is Tim Koharsski. I'm an
attorney in Cleveland. I live in Solen.
[8:54]
I'm running for the Bedford Municipal
Court Judge. It's an open seat in 2027.
[8:58]
I've been a trial attorney for 33 years.
I represent people on their very very
[9:04]
worst days when they're looking at their
wives, their children that they may not
[9:08]
be able to go home to their wives. They
going to lose their freedom. I love what
[9:12]
I do. Uh, as I said, I've been an
attorney for 33 years. I've been a
[9:19]
part-time pro municipal prosecutor. I've
been a special prosecutor. I practice in
[9:24]
federal court. I practice in all the
courts in the state of Ohio. I'm a
[9:27]
graduate of the Case Western Reserve
University. Uh, I'm been appointed to be
[9:32]
on the CGA panel to represent federal
criminal defendants. Uh, but at 58 years
[9:38]
old, I've determined that I can do more
help to people if in fact I'm a judge
[9:43]
rather than helping one person at a
time. So, I'm looking to be a judge at
[9:48]
the court where I think that too often
we just put prosecutors in or people
[9:53]
that are in the court. I think it's time
that we put someone that's actually done
[9:57]
in real practice that actually sees what
happens to people. I think the court
[10:02]
needs to use different alternatives,
programming, different whether it's
[10:08]
traffic, whether it's driver
suspensions. There's a lot of reasons as
[10:11]
why people go into municipal court.
Municipal court is the low-level court.
[10:14]
It's not felony court. It's not common
please. It's lowle. There's ways that we
[10:18]
can help these people. Uh we don't need
to put people in jail for any extended
[10:22]
period of time. Uh, I'll be here more uh
talking to you about what I intend to
[10:27]
do, but just a brief introduction of who
I am.
[10:29]
» Thank you, Mr. I appreciate you coming
this evening.
[10:32]
» Would Would anybody else in the audience
care to speak this evening?
[10:36]
» All right. Well, I thank you for coming.
Um, I I will move on then uh to uh
[10:42]
report some communications from the
mayor and other municipal officials. And
[10:46]
I will start. Uh I've got a few updates
for council here. The first is um you're
[10:52]
all probably wondering what's happening
with AT&T since this has been taking
[10:56]
quite a long time. So I I'm here to give
you an update. Uh Mr. Hannah and I have
[11:01]
been uh continuing to have conversations
with AT&T,
[11:07]
but we also are still getting hung up on
the same legal issues that we've been
[11:10]
talking about for several months. And um
we are at this point um going to step
[11:19]
back and and evaluate whether continuing
in the current phase or whether other
[11:25]
paths may be more sensible here to try
to move this thing forward. I get
[11:30]
questions from residents all the time
about this project. And um and uh I'm
[11:35]
I'm anxious to to make progress and
we're just not getting there. I don't
[11:39]
know Mr. Hannah, if you would like to
make a comment or two, feel free.
[11:43]
» Sure. Uh, Mayor, I I mean, I would uh
echo those comments. I think, you know,
[11:48]
we we've had a a long and uh relatively
uh comprehensive discussion with AT&T
[11:56]
um about, you know, the necessary
ingredients from the villages
[11:59]
perspective for a lawful agreement that
doesn't constitute an um an
[12:05]
inappropriate or unlawful subsidy using
public funds to a private corporation.
[12:10]
And you know it gets a little more
complicated than that of course but um
[12:14]
but we are continuing to find working
through those issues very challenging.
[12:19]
And so um one of the options um down the
road could be revisiting the RFP that
[12:25]
the village issued previously. Um and uh
you know thinking about the other
[12:31]
respondent I think there was just the
one correct
[12:34]
» to that and uh and and see you know if
we're not able to make this work with uh
[12:40]
with AT&T with whom the village has been
negotiating um you know it may be
[12:45]
possible to commence a different
discussion um or to revisit the RFP um
[12:51]
itself and and reissue a uh an RFP to
try to more carefully calibrate what the
[12:58]
village is seeking um visav people who
may be interested in providing it.
[13:03]
» Thank you. [clears throat]
>> Sure.
[13:06]
» If you have questions, let me know. Um
or you can obviously also talk to me
[13:10]
anytime. Give me a call or a text and
I'd be happy to give you more detail. Uh
[13:14]
a few other things. So, I'd like to
remind everybody we're having a music
[13:19]
event in two days and we have uh Mr. Mar
here uh who was spoke this evening who's
[13:25]
going to be performing and perhaps his
spouse might perform.
[13:28]
» Oh, I know.
>> No.
[13:30]
» Okay. Well, we have him and we have
three other residents that are going to
[13:33]
be sprinkled inter sprinkled in
performing with a our our primary act um
[13:41]
which is um Jason Patrick Meyers. And I
I encourage everybody to come. I looks
[13:47]
like the weather's not going to rain.
We'll see. It's going to be cloudy, but
[13:49]
it looks at least the latest is that
it's going to stay dry. So, I hope we
[13:54]
can have some fun and I hope hope to see
you there. Um, let's see. A couple other
[13:59]
things. Um,
[clears throat] I want to bring to
[14:03]
council's attention something that I had
a discussion with the Mr. Water and with
[14:08]
Sher, I think it was yesterday or the
day before um regarding the pavilion
[14:13]
rental process. Um, we continue to have
issues with the rental process up there
[14:19]
where people are not respecting our
rules like emptying their trash. They're
[14:25]
drawing um I don't know if it's chalk or
pens on the on the heartscape up there
[14:31]
that we can't seem to remove. Um they're
leaving the bathrooms a complete mess.
[14:37]
Um, and we're doing the best. The
service department is doing a great job
[14:41]
to try to get up there in between
rentals, uh, and and take care of
[14:46]
things, but I think, uh, I'm going to
make some changes to the rules. Uh, I
[14:51]
don't care to imple implement them until
next year because we've already kind of
[14:56]
set the rules for the season and we're
sort of getting toward the end of the
[14:59]
season. But, um, my proposal, nothing
final. I welcome input or call me or if
[15:05]
you have any input tonight. Um the
primary things that that we discussed
[15:10]
that I'd like to do is number one go to
full day rentals rather than trying to
[15:14]
do half and half because it creates and
most other communities are doing kind of
[15:18]
full days. So you rent it for the whole
day and you've got it the whole time and
[15:22]
we're not trying to um run up there for
an hour in between two groups and clean
[15:28]
everything. Second, I'm going to require
a deposit for all rentals. we only
[15:33]
require deposit for rentals when um
people are food truck
[15:37]
» and we're finding that um we're spending
extra cost going up there to clean up
[15:42]
things that they're supposed to be
doing. So I think if we have a a a
[15:46]
deposit that is forfeited if some of
these things happen, I think we'll be in
[15:52]
better shape. And then the third is to
raise the rate uh for non-residents. And
[15:57]
I don't know what the rate exactly is
going to be yet, but um it will be a
[16:03]
larger gap between residents and
non-residents because I think we have
[16:07]
more recourse on residents when they do
these things than non-residents and and
[16:11]
it's pretty common that other
communities either don't rent to
[16:15]
non-residents or they charge more. So
those are the things that are going on.
[16:18]
I welcome your feedback. We're not doing
anything till next season like I said,
[16:21]
but I think change some changes are in
order and I'm going to let you guys know
[16:25]
about that. And then the last thing I'll
say uh tonight is around power outages.
[16:30]
We continue to have them. Um I've been
all over I've written many letters.
[16:36]
You've seen maybe some of the social
media posts that Sherry's helping with.
[16:40]
We I've reached out to our elected
officials. Um I had our councilman reach
[16:46]
out to me again and I told him what
we're doing. He said he'll help whatever
[16:49]
we can. I think just making our story
known that we need more attention from
[16:57]
um from First Energy here to address
some of these problems. I know it's not
[17:01]
a short-term problem, but I'm just going
to stay on it. I just think it's it's
[17:04]
not acceptable level of service that
we're getting. Um and you know,
[17:10]
hopefully with the collective voice and
some of the other communities around
[17:14]
here that are doing similar things,
we'll get some action.
[17:17]
» [clears throat]
>> I mean, my next my next step may be to
[17:21]
go to Pukco about it, too. I don't know.
I haven't done that yet. That's the one
[17:24]
thing I haven't done. But anyway, I just
wanted you to keep you guys know this is
[17:28]
something that's on my agenda.
>> I just want to add to that. I um we
[17:32]
talked to the council
um that um I'm I share the survey with
[17:38]
Pepper Pike so far so that they can copy
it. they can also send it out to their
[17:43]
residents and we talked maybe about
collectively getting those te that
[17:47]
testimonial data data in case we want to
go to
[17:50]
» so now that that we would have it and if
we get Pepper Pike or Bentleyville I
[17:54]
think was interested
>> mayor has reached out to me as well.
[17:56]
» Okay. So I can share the survey with
them as well.
[17:59]
» Great.
>> And so I think if we were to get
[18:02]
multiple communities together and then
compile that testimony data I think we'd
[18:06]
have a good case. So
>> thank you for that. Thank you for your
[18:09]
efforts on it. I appreciate
>> maybe I really appreciate that.
[18:14]
» Okay, that's all I've got, but thank
you. Um, I will move on to our our uh
[18:20]
department heads. So, let me start with
the police report. I think the chief is
[18:25]
on there, but we have the lieutenant in
the in the chambers here. So, you guys
[18:30]
take it away.
>> He just messaged me. I think he might
[18:33]
have just got bounced out of here.
>> Okay. Um well, Lieutenant,
[18:37]
» the only thing we really wanted to
address today is because we brought it
[18:39]
up, uh roads and safety at the last
meeting, um the flock. So, right now,
[18:45]
we're shooting for to get a flock
representative if we if we still want to
[18:50]
entertain that and open it for anybody
uh via Zoom. Uh it would be September
[18:58]
2nd at 7 p.m. is what we're shooting
for. We kind of bounce back and forth
[19:02]
[clears throat]
between some emails.
[19:05]
Okay.
>> So, right now that's that's just what we
[19:08]
recommend. Try to get done this way. We
can address it all together. We can't we
[19:12]
can hear it straight from Fox's mouth on
whatever questions or whoever wants to
[19:16]
bring whatever up. This way it's we're
not playing telephone or just come it
[19:20]
can come straight from them.
>> I appreciate that. Thank you
[19:25]
» Juliet for that.
>> Okay. Thank you. Mr. Dwire, do you have
[19:29]
a report this evening?
>> Uh only thing to report on is for
[19:32]
continuing on drive forward
replacements. Um, you guys are moving
[19:36]
right along with that. And with that, we
did have a road culver failure on river
[19:42]
road that discussing with Jeff and I
think our crews are going to replace
[19:46]
that in house.
>> Okay. Okay. Where what section of river?
[19:50]
I didn't see.
>> So, it's north of Shagrin Boulevard,
[19:53]
maybe about 75 ft. There's actually a
steel plate on the road covering it
[19:58]
right now. And it is properly safe down
>> uh patch rounded and pinned. Okay.
[20:04]
» And there is signed. All right.
>> All right. Thank you, Mr. Appreciate
[20:08]
that. Uh, let's see. I will move on to
the engineers report. Mr. Polarski,
[20:18]
you're on mute.
He's on mute, right?
[20:30]
» Mr. Farsy, are you there?
Okay, I will circle back with you, Mr.
[20:35]
Farski, and we'll move on and come back.
And if you're having any uh technical
[20:39]
difficulties there, Mr. Mr. Shaw, have a
uh finance report this evening.
[20:44]
» Uh yes, here may. Um I have one quick
report and I'm trying my for some reason
[20:50]
my video won't work. Um
so [snorts]
[20:55]
our income tax, as I mentioned last
month, um is still on the downward trend
[21:00]
right now. Um, as of
this month, um, August 1st, we were down
[21:08]
by approximately 12%.
It's just a reminder, you know, for a
[21:13]
city or a village like Morland Hills,
um, we rely on individual income taxes
[21:18]
and, uh, market conditions or what have
you, uh, can certainly impact us, um,
[21:24]
very rapidly. So in in dollars we are
down about $527,000
[21:32]
um year to date. Um again our budget was
conservatively estimated um at even less
[21:40]
than that. So we are fine as far as the
budget is concerned. Um but as far as
[21:45]
actual cash and revenue collections we
are down. So just a heads up.
[21:52]
» Other than that don't have a report
mayor.
[21:55]
» Okay. Thank you. Just are you you've
been doing this a long time, Pashant. Do
[21:59]
you think this is a timing? Do you have
concerns it could be continuing
[22:05]
or uh and are there things you think we
should be looking at now or watch
[22:09]
closely and see later?
>> Well, you know, a couple of concerns
[22:14]
there. Nothing I I guess I I'm going to
say income tax up and down. You know,
[22:18]
we've seen this over the years. Um and
being on the Rita board, I've seen um
[22:25]
statewide collections are also down a
little bit. So um not alarmed yet. Um
[22:30]
but I am concerned about you know all
these other talk about property taxes
[22:34]
and all those things and if all this
comes together with u reduction in
[22:39]
income tax revenue which is our main
source of revenue and um property tax is
[22:44]
also u being discussed
um you know we'll have to look at it
[22:49]
keep an eye on it and I'm sure you may
um are familiar with all the things
[22:53]
going on statewide because uh as part of
your mayors and managers association
[22:58]
they do have discussions on
Uh, but I'm I'm certainly keeping my eye
[23:02]
on it and keep you informed as we go
along.
[23:06]
» Okay. I appreciate that, Mr. Shot. Thank
you.
[23:08]
» You're welcome.
>> Uh, the building department report uh
[23:13]
all on vacation is my understanding. So,
I don't think we will have that report
[23:17]
this evening. So, uh, Mr. Hanner, do we
have a law report this evening?
[23:21]
» Um, no, we don't.
>> We do not. Okay, then I will circle back
[23:24]
one more time with Jeff to see if I can
get him.
[23:29]
Uh, I did text him, but he didn't
respond to that. So, maybe he is having
[23:33]
some troubles. Jeff going once.
[23:38]
Going twice.
Okay, Jeff, I'm gonna move. Oh, wait a
[23:43]
minute. There he is.
>> Yeah, sorry about that. I uh mistakenly
[23:48]
left my laptop and using my phone and my
fingers are fat. So, uh [laughter]
[23:55]
I have uh nothing to report. Mayor and
Council.
[23:59]
» Oh, okay.
>> After all that,
[24:03]
then we will move on to appointments and
confirmations. We have none. Uh, no
[24:10]
petitions,
communications, petitions, and claims
[24:14]
this evening. So, I'll move to reports
of committees. The first is a report of
[24:19]
the BCAM planning on August 3rd. Uh, Mr.
Richmond, do you have a report?
[24:25]
» Uh, thank you, Mayor. Uh so uh BZA met
August 3rd. We just had one item and
[24:33]
that was a square footage variance for a
detached garage and covered patio at 30
[24:41]
Addison Lane and that was uh approved.
Um we also uh besides the player house
[24:50]
camp matter which uh will come up later
in the agenda we had other items. One
[24:58]
was the um design for that uh the tax
garage at 30 Addison. Uh we also had two
[25:08]
um designs for new dwellings. one at 45
Stern Crest and one at 110 Meadow Meadow
[25:16]
Hill Lane, sorry. Um all three uh were
approved. Um all three were were subject
[25:25]
to um site plan revisions,
engineering uh review and approval and
[25:31]
particularly to um new drawings were
also subject to a um septic uh permit.
[25:40]
uh from the county health district
>> conclude planning and BCA.
[25:48]
» Thank you, Mr. Richmond. Appreciate it.
Um next is the facilities from the
[25:52]
meeting report for the meeting on August
4th. Uh Mr. Vincent.
[25:56]
» Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um minutes
stand in the in the packet there in the
[26:01]
dropbox. Um the highlights uh are that
uh the foot bridge replacement has
[26:06]
started. In fact, it's going so well
that they did another one. So, um, they
[26:11]
got some donated clay. I guess it was
donated, correct, Ted?
[26:13]
» Yeah, donated
>> from Morland Commons to, uh, kind of
[26:17]
help assemble the the kind of earth
bridge and, uh, and it's been a good
[26:22]
project for the service department. So,
that's moving along well. I don't know.
[26:25]
Do you have any other reports? Is it
actually done this week or is it pretty
[26:29]
close to being done or
>> I know they're uh, we're putting the
[26:31]
clay on the second dump for the second
bridge today. They were working up
[26:35]
there. Rain did slow us down a little.
>> That's all I wanted to let folks know.
[26:40]
Otherwise,
>> thanks Mr. Richmond.
[26:44]
Mr. Mr. Vincent, my apologies.
[26:50]
» Roads and safety also met on August 4th.
Mrs. Irish, you have a report.
[26:56]
» Um, thank you for mentioning the block
system camera system. Um, I was going to
[27:03]
mention what you said, so thank you for
sharing. Takes that off my list. Um, we
[27:09]
did have um an extensive discussion with
a resident um of Miles Road in the Scrap
[27:15]
Ball Morland Hills area. Um, she had
emailed me expressing concern about the
[27:22]
the speed in that area on Miles Road.
So, she attended the meeting um shared
[27:27]
her concerns, talked about how she had
um reached out to Shrint Hall's roads
[27:32]
and safety committee um as well and how
it may um they felt it may have to be a
[27:41]
combined effort to take a look at that
road if we were going to do anything
[27:45]
about it with with the village. Um, but
what she's saying is the stretch there
[27:50]
between Solen, where Solen Road starts
and intersects with Miles heading
[27:56]
westbound, um, is currently 35 miles per
hour, um, she feels it's it's too high
[28:02]
of a speed limit for that area being
very, uh, dense in residential um,
[28:08]
homes. So, she was coming to ask Beth if
we would take a look at it in the area.
[28:14]
Um, by the end of the conversation, uh,
Chief Diesel stated he'd be happy to
[28:19]
install a speed box in the area going
westbound, also eastbound to to do a
[28:23]
seven-day study to take a look at the
speeds. Um, that's currently in process
[28:30]
um because it takes some time to get all
that, make sure that we're not putting a
[28:34]
poll where their utilities are lying.
So, um, that's sort of our next steps to
[28:40]
evaluate that. Jeff uh Floreski shared
that there is a who you know this
[28:46]
process that you have to go [laughter]
through to change a speed limit of any
[28:50]
road. Um there are several factors
involved with that. So um at this point
[28:56]
we're just we're gathering information.
So I wanted to give you all an update on
[29:00]
that. Um,
I see that we have this later on the
[29:06]
agenda, but just briefly, Chief Diesel
reported that there is a recommendation
[29:10]
from planning to allow eight buses to
access the Hyram Trail three times per
[29:15]
day. And then uh finally,
Mr. Farski shared that um there's a
[29:22]
challenge of developing a storm water
drainage system around East and West
[29:27]
Juniper.
um and he discussed several different
[29:31]
options of how to address that. Um we're
still in discussions on or he's still in
[29:38]
discussions on trying to figure out the
best option is. So that's where we are.
[29:43]
» That's it.
>> Thank you very much.
[29:45]
» If I may really quick, the speed box on
Miles Road eastbound is already up. So
[29:49]
it's pulling data to see if we actually
do have a speed problem there. The
[29:53]
officers have been sitting there pretty
much every shift right now day and
[29:56]
night. Uh we're doing like two 30 minute
uh stretches there. So we're not just
[30:01]
camping there and then nobody's moving
at all. So uh we haven't had any
[30:06]
violations whatsoever yet. The speed box
is pulling data. So when users not there
[30:12]
speed box is doing its thing. We did
mark one of the polls. Oops. Is did oops
[30:17]
already come out?
>> Oops. So we put poll up tomorrow.
[30:20]
» So the poll will be up tomorrow for the
westbound traffic. Then we'll be
[30:23]
monitoring one week eastbound and
westbound traffic with our speed boxes
[30:27]
and it'll give us data on flow rates,
how many vehicles are coming and going
[30:33]
and then speeds.
>> Thank you very much, Tom. Appreciate
[30:37]
that.
>> Okay. Uh parks commission met on July
[30:44]
20th. Uh Mr. Yon, do you have a report?
Uh yeah, I was not in attendance, but I
[30:49]
did speak with the um with the treatment
works chair about it. Uh really only uh
[30:57]
I'll let the minutes stand. Only other
you know follow up with uh the mayor
[31:01]
already stated this Friday
and the Hills if you could come up and
[31:06]
support it be great.
>> Thank you council president. Appreciate
[31:10]
that. Uh next is the DEIB commission
that met on July 21st. Uh, Miss Davis or
[31:17]
Mr. Richmond, do any of either of you
have a report?
[31:20]
» I have a a brief one. Thank you, Mayor.
Uh, minutes um not yet available due to
[31:27]
some uh of personal reasons of uh the
officers, particularly the minute
[31:34]
writing officer. Um, so quick
highlights. Uh first of all, regarding
[31:40]
ongoing projects, um not too late to get
your recipes in
[31:46]
for the cookbook, a lot have been in um
and they're in the process of figuring
[31:52]
out how best to display them on their uh
on the DDI web page. Uh this Saturday,
[31:59]
August 15th, from 10 to 2, uh the
commission will have a table at the
[32:05]
Orange Arts Center. I believe they'll be
um
[32:10]
sponsoring a uh drawing of faces of our
community uh uh craft at the DEIV table.
[32:19]
Uh it should be a great event. Um
[clears throat] the um joint book club
[32:27]
with uh green commission um regarding
the book grading sweetg grass has been
[32:33]
set for October 22nd at 6:30 uh p.m. Uh
the we are Morland Hills event. Uh
[32:42]
everybody is working very hard to make
this bigger and better than it has been
[32:47]
before. Um, so far the food truck Frosty
Gator will be there. Uh, Blue Cadillac
[32:54]
will be there uh for the first uh hour
and a half or so and then there'll be uh
[32:59]
line dancing for the second hour and a
half which should be fun. Uh there'll be
[33:04]
again resource tables and a cornole
tournament and um potential uh stuff uh
[33:11]
for kids. Um there's a food bank
volunteer opportunity November 12th from
[33:18]
6:00 to 8. Uh the web page as well as um
we are more than host there will be
[33:26]
forums if anybody wants to uh join those
uh join those volunteering and um that's
[33:36]
the uh that's the base of kindness.
>> Thanks again Mr. Richmond. Appreciate
[33:40]
it. Uh let's see. Last is the green
commission from two meetings July 8th
[33:45]
and August 5th. Uh Mrs. Irish class,
would you like to make comments or
[33:51]
» um we had a free cycle of that this past
Sunday. It was several people attended
[33:56]
and took away many bags of items
including myself. Um so that was that
[34:02]
was good. Um we had um two meetings ago,
the rust belt writers presentation was
[34:08]
very informative. Um, I learned a lot um
about food waste and how much it's
[34:14]
contributing to the to the methane and
the in the atmosphere and um they will
[34:20]
be bringing they're they're still taking
a look at pricing and bringing some
[34:23]
options to the village as far as what
that might look like.
[34:30]
» All right. Thank you. That that
concludes reports of committees. So move
[34:34]
on to uh approval of bonds, contracts,
plats. Uh in this section, we do have
[34:41]
something we've put there, which is the
Hyram House camp uh conditional use
[34:45]
modification
uh to allow egress onto Hyum Trail for
[34:50]
up to eight regular buses and one
special education bus during specified
[34:54]
time periods. Uh Mr. Richmond, are you
going to present this this evening?
[34:59]
» I I will. Thank you very much. Uh so it
it's um you know a high room house camp
[35:06]
uh requested
informally in some preliminary hearings
[35:11]
uh and formally at the uh public hearing
at uh the the last planning commission
[35:18]
meeting uh requesting modification of
their conditional use. actually kind of
[35:23]
modification of the previous
modification of of their traditional
[35:27]
use. Uh specifically modifying you may
recall there were seven conditions in
[35:33]
2023. The specific modification would be
condition number one uh that currently
[35:40]
only allows ingress of buses to the
access road. And the uh request
[35:47]
modification was uh egress for at three
periods of time.
[35:55]
um once in the morning for eight of
stu regular students and one bus for
[36:03]
special education students um uh for
egress on high trail in in the uh in in
[36:12]
the morning specifically at at present
time between the hours of 7:30 8 7:55
[36:19]
and twice uh in the afternoon uh one
approximately typically uh 245
[36:26]
uh for um Brady students and one
approximately 345 for uh Morland Hill
[36:34]
students and the uh Y is the school uh
and Hyram [clears throat] presented that
[36:40]
um
that we'll be able to um and the
[36:45]
transportation director um worked all
this out that they're expecting delay
[36:50]
time to be reduced by 15
Um, and those 8 hour those eight buses
[36:58]
represent about 23 cars that would be
removed from the queue at um uh at at
[37:05]
Gail Allison. Um I I stated at the
planning commission that I I thought our
[37:12]
job was kind of really summarized kind
of by the one line in our conditional
[37:16]
use um ordinance and that is that uh the
conditional use regulations are quote
[37:23]
intended to ensure that conditional uses
are reviewed in a reasonable equitable
[37:26]
manner while safeguarding property
rights of all individuals and the
[37:31]
health, safety and welfare of the entire
community. In other words, a balancing
[37:34]
of property rights, if you will, of of
Hyram House uh with the um need to
[37:42]
overall um look at the interest of
Morland Hills um as a whole. And um in
[37:49]
order that for the planning commission
to uh to balance those uh we first have
[37:56]
really two or two things. Uh first our
our police department um and our
[38:03]
engineering uh department uh reviewed
the situation. Police department
[38:08]
actually went out uh and staged um and
and examined the uh traffic at those
[38:15]
times and also talked with the um
transportation director at Orange. And
[38:22]
um neither uh bottom line neither uh the
the chief nor our engineer felt that um
[38:30]
there would be any material traffic
delays at high trail uh due to the the
[38:37]
staggered nature of of this um uh bus
traffic of this egress and bus traffic.
[38:43]
Now on the flip side, I thought that it
would be helpful in reducing
[38:49]
uh the queue on Gail Allison Drive,
helpful in reducing traffic um backing
[38:56]
up at Sugarin and S and [clears throat]
helpful in reducing the possibility that
[39:03]
emergency vehicles might get stuck in
that queue without being able to get
[39:08]
through. Um and so we had a public
hearing. Um also there there were um
[39:17]
just uh basic besides the school board
um individuals who were um who were also
[39:23]
residents uh there was one um individual
who um who expressed support. There were
[39:31]
two individuals that indicated not not
so much opposition but that um they
[39:38]
didn't want
they didn't think more than hills um
[39:43]
should and and higher trail should be
responsible for what they they they
[39:48]
thought was a school issue. Um and the
planning commission uh we basically uh
[39:55]
and and and I as a council member
basically think uh you know this is not
[39:59]
just a school issue. Um higher house and
school are also institutional residents.
[40:06]
Many Mor Hills residents have um have uh
children that go to orange schools. But
[40:14]
most importantly,
um
[40:17]
the uh the requested modification is is
not expected to
[40:24]
hurt and affect Hyram Trail residents
based on our engineer and our uh police
[40:31]
departments.
Its intent is to help and expected to
[40:36]
help by again freeing up the queue by um
by lessing traffic at some degree and
[40:42]
reducing possibility of of hyum. Um and
the the other kind of solace uh the
[40:52]
other item to to recall is this is
really in effect a a two-year
[40:59]
modification because recall in two years
That will be the fiveyear mark uh where
[41:07]
the um hyram house has to come back to
us with a new traffic study showing all
[41:14]
the alternatives that uh alternative uh
to to using a hyum um to um and and how
[41:23]
those may or may not require still the
need for a hyum and they need uh uh to
[41:30]
do that two years from Now, so long
story short, um we recommended that
[41:39]
council approve um the requested
modification
[41:43]
to the conditional use, specifically the
request to modify condition one to also
[41:49]
allow egress on the Hyram Trail of up to
eight regular buses and one special
[41:54]
education bus in the morning during the
7 to 9:00 a.m. time frame and twice in
[42:01]
the afternoon during the 2 to 4:00 time
frame. Provided that all other existing
[42:08]
conditions 2 through 7 from 2023
um
[42:14]
be uh remain in full force in effect. Uh
so that's um that's the base. happy to
[42:21]
answer any questions and then I could um
I got to repeat that in motion form uh
[42:29]
in order to uh to make a motion to
approve
[42:35]
» commission recommendation
>> for the record you had mentioned that
[42:38]
Hyram House has to come back in two
years to with a new plan and I think you
[42:42]
mean orange schools
>> well I actually mean hire house because
[42:45]
they're the applicant
>> they're [clears throat]
[42:48]
I mean schools will will come with them
and the schools put together the traffic
[42:53]
study but high house is the actual
>> they own they own they own
[42:57]
» they own the land own
>> so they are very
[43:03]
» if they didn't if they didn't want to do
it the school couldn't come and sit on
[43:06]
» okay
>> correct
[43:12]
» thank you Mr. Richmond. Any uh questions
or clarifications from anybody? I I'd
[43:17]
just like to make a comment that I was
at the meeting. I'm happy to uh serve on
[43:21]
the same planning commission. And um I
support this modification. I'm not a
[43:28]
vote tonight, but I just want to let
council know I support the modification.
[43:31]
I think it's the right thing to do to
support our schools. And I do think we
[43:35]
need to uh make it clear to the schools
though that they need to make more
[43:40]
progress on evaluating options by the
time they come back in two years because
[43:45]
that was the expectation three years ago
and uh I stated that at the meeting but
[43:50]
I just want to let you guys know.
>> Appreciate that. Um if there's no other
[43:55]
questions, I'm I'm definitely assuming
um that um this is the the proper um
[44:04]
method to approve a conditional use by
motion that
[44:09]
» consistent with the council's past
practice.
[44:11]
» All right, great. So, I I'm I'm make a
motion that um we approve the requested
[44:19]
um modification to the existing
conditional use. specifically that we
[44:25]
approve the request to modify condition
one of the seven conditions uh currently
[44:36]
in force uh to allow [clears throat]
egress onto Hyru Trail of up to eight
[44:43]
regular buses and one special education
bus in the morning during the 7 a.m. to
[44:48]
9:00 a.m. time frame and twice in the
afternoon during the 2:00 p.m. to 4:00
[44:53]
p.m. time frame provided that all the
other conditions two through seven
[45:00]
of the current conditional use remain in
full force and effect.
[45:05]
» Second.
>> Okay, we have a motion Mr. Richmond
[45:09]
seconded by I couldn't hear. I think it
was Mr. Melly.
[45:12]
» Yes, sir.
>> Out of time.
[45:14]
» Mr. [laughter]
>> Both sides of Steve
[45:19]
Sher, would you call the rules?
>> Sados.
[45:22]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Squ. Yes,
[45:23]
» Mr. Yankee.
>> Yes,
[45:25]
» Mr. Melly.
>> Yes,
[45:27]
» Mr. Richmond.
>> Yes,
[45:28]
» Mr. Vza.
>> Yes.
[45:30]
» Okay. Thank you, Mr. Richmond. I will
move on. I think I'm moving right on to
[45:34]
ordinances. So, the first ordinance this
evening is 2026-34,
[45:40]
an ordinance authorizing the mayor to
execute a contract with Mr. Excavator,
[45:44]
Inc. for the village complex retaining
wall project and declaring an emergency.
[45:50]
Mr. Vincent, will you be presented? I
will. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, so yeah,
[45:55]
so there were five bids received for the
uh comp village complex retaining wall,
[45:59]
which includes all the wall behind the
police station all the way down to the
[46:03]
sally port. Um, so it's pretty big uh
pretty big area. Um, there were good
[46:08]
bids. There were five of them, like I
said, and they were pretty tight uh to
[46:11]
each other, ranging from 162,500
to 183,288
[46:17]
with the lowest uh bid being Mr.
Excavator Inc. at 162500.
[46:23]
Um and uh uh Mr. Blowski informed us
that the um at the facilities meeting
[46:29]
that the Mr. Estavator is actually
responsible for the site work on on the
[46:34]
village campus here. So they are
familiar with our site. Um which I was
[46:37]
happy to hear because they're going to
be taking down a retaining wall and just
[46:39]
leaving it, you know, exposed for a
while. So so they have familiarity. Um
[46:44]
so with that, I would uh recommend that
we pass this make a motion to suspend.
[46:49]
» Second. Okay. Minion to suspend the rule
seconded by council president Sherry.
[46:54]
» Miss David,
>> yes.
[46:55]
» Mrs. Irish class.
>> Yes.
[46:56]
» Mr. Yaki.
>> Yes.
[46:58]
» Mr. Melly.
>> Yes.
[46:59]
» Mr. Richmond.
>> Yes.
[47:00]
» Mr. Vincent.
>> Uh, yes. Any questions?
[47:07]
None. Okay. I'll make a motion passage,
please. Second. Okay. We motion passes.
[47:12]
Second by Mr. Nelly. Would you please
call the role?
[47:15]
» Miss Deas?
>> Yes.
[47:16]
» Mrs. Irish Glass?
>> Yes.
[47:18]
» Mr. Yaki?
>> Yes.
[47:19]
» Mr. Melly.
>> Yes.
[47:21]
» Mr. Richmond.
>> Yes.
[47:22]
» Mr. Vinc.
>> Yes.
[47:23]
» Okay. Thank you, Mr. Vincent. I'll move
on to 2026-35,
[47:28]
an ordinance amending section 157.03,
members terms of chapter 157 parks
[47:36]
commission of the codified ordinances to
delete the language permitting a
[47:39]
community member to serve
an an additional term and to modify the
[47:45]
term length. Um, it should say
prohibiting a community member to serve
[47:51]
an additional Oh, no. No, excuse me. I'm
sorry. That is correct. Permitting a
[47:55]
community member to serve an additional
term and to modify the term length for
[47:58]
two appointments made at year end 2026
and declaring an emergency. And council
[48:03]
president,
>> thank you. Thank you. Um so this was
[48:08]
made uh because we are coming up on uh
eight years of the uh of the creation of
[48:16]
the uh parks commission. Um and we've
realized that we would have a quite a
[48:24]
few uh members essentially turn limited.
Uh this is the only commission that had
[48:30]
was set up as such. Uh and we found it
best practice to align it with the other
[48:35]
commissions. um that people would like
to continue to serve uh then they should
[48:40]
be afforded that uh afforded that uh
availability. So basically the language
[48:48]
um also uh since it it changes two of
the appointments though and we have uh
[48:54]
there's some staggering in there versus
all four terms because when someone
[48:59]
comes on uh you know if someone uh steps
away the new member assumes the balance
[49:06]
of that term so it doesn't start four
years it'd be time to join. So that way
[49:10]
we've got a little uh overlap so we're
not okay everybody we know all new
[49:16]
people come in and you kind of lose that
continuity of of what we've been doing.
[49:20]
So that was what uh what uh this
ordinance addresses um with that I'd
[49:27]
like to suspend the rules. Second
suspend the rules second by Mr. Vincent
[49:33]
Sherry.
>> Yes. M David.
[49:34]
» Yes.
>> Mrs. Irishb
[49:36]
» Mr. Yankee.
>> Yes.
[49:37]
» Mr. Millie.
>> Yes.
[49:38]
» Mr. Richmond.
>> Yes.
[49:40]
» Mr. Veteran.
>> Yes.
[49:42]
» Any questions?
[49:47]
Like to make a move for passage.
[49:51]
Second by Miss.
[50:01]
» Yes.
>> Yes.
[50:04]
» Yes.
>> Yes.
[50:06]
» Okay. Thank you, council president.
Next up is 2026-36,
[50:12]
an ordinance creating the police capital
and equipment replacement fund within
[50:15]
the financial records of the village of
Mormon Hills and declaring an emergency.
[50:20]
Miss Davis.
>> Yeah. So, um I think we talked last time
[50:23]
or the time before about um needing u to
separate the funds or Mr. Shaw had
[50:29]
talked about this um uh from the
auditors that they have to segregate the
[50:33]
reserves um the police and service. So
they're um establishing this is to
[50:38]
establish two distinct funds. Um and uh
let's see if there's anything else I
[50:44]
said about it. Um yeah, this is to set
aside reserves for future capital
[50:48]
equipment needs in the police department
and um the equipment replacement fund u
[50:54]
which is the same fund that they were
using for the reserves for the service
[50:57]
department. So this is essentially just
separating them into two distinct funds
[51:01]
to comply with the auditor. Um and Mr.
shot and letting if you have anything
[51:07]
else you'd like to add to that. I
probably covered that.
[51:10]
» No, I think you did just fine. Thank
you. You covered it well.
[51:15]
» All right. Um, I'd like to make a motion
to suspend the rules.
[51:19]
» Second. [clears throat]
>> Okay. We have a motion to suspend the
[51:21]
rules. Second by Mr. Vincent. Would you
call?
[51:24]
» Mos.
>> Yes.
[51:25]
» Mrs. Irish.
>> Yes.
[51:27]
» Mr. Yaki.
>> Yes.
[51:28]
» Mr. Milly.
>> Yes.
[51:29]
» Mr. Richmond.
>> Yes.
[51:31]
» Mr. Vincent.
>> Yes.
[51:33]
» Okay. Any questions?
[51:37]
» Okay.
Passage.
[51:39]
» Second.
>> Hey, we have M passage. Seconded by Mr.
[51:42]
Richmond. Sherry.
>> Mel.
[51:45]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Clutz.
[51:46]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Yankee.
[51:48]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Mlly.
[51:49]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Richmond.
[51:50]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Vincent.
[51:52]
» Yes.
>> Okay. Thank you. I'll move on to
[51:54]
2026-37,
an ordinance creating the service
[52:00]
capital and equipment replacement fund
within the financial records uh of the
[52:06]
village of Mormon Hills and declaring an
emergency and that will be presented by
[52:11]
Miss Class.
[laughter]
[52:19]
» Thought I was reading the same one
already.
[52:23]
for the artifact author's recommendation
to segate segregate the two reserve
[52:27]
funds placed similar to um organs in
establishing accumulation of reserves
[52:34]
for future capital and support.
So um I'd like to make a motion to
[52:40]
suspend rules second.
>> Okay, we have a motion to suspend the
[52:43]
rules seconded by Miss Davos. Would you
roll?
[52:47]
» Mos.
>> Yes. Mrs. Irish class.
[52:49]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Yankee.
[52:51]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Melly,
[52:52]
» yes.
>> Mr. Richmond,
[52:53]
» yes.
>> Mr. Vincent,
[52:54]
» yes.
>> Any questions, comments?
[53:00]
» Motion. I'd like to make a motion for
passion
[53:03]
for pass. Second by Mr. Vincent.
>> Okay.
[53:07]
» Miss David,
>> yes.
[53:08]
» Mrs.
Mr. Yankee,
[53:10]
» yes.
>> Mr. Melly,
[53:12]
» yes.
>> Mr. Richmond,
[53:13]
» yes.
>> Mr. Vincent,
[53:14]
» yes.
>> Okay. And our last ordinance this
[53:17]
evening is 2026-38.
An ordinance providing additional
[53:21]
appropriations, transferring items
already appropriated and declaring an
[53:24]
emergency will be presented by Mr. Mali.
Sir,
[53:28]
» yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh so this is
part of our monthly housekeeping. Uh it
[53:32]
is providing certain expenditures for
village hills for the uh fiscal year. Uh
[53:38]
there is an exhibit A attachment uh that
is public record uh discuss the precise
[53:43]
amounts uh for engineering study for
health insurance for some miscellaneous
[53:48]
cabinet expenses and for some refunds.
Uh these are detailed out in in that uh
[53:56]
in the exhibit A attachment. Um again
this just normal housekeeping that we do
[54:00]
to transfer funds.
[54:06]
Uh with that, I'll make a motion to
spell the rules.
[54:11]
» Second.
>> We have a second
[54:14]
by Mr. Vinc.
>> Yes.
[54:18]
» Mrs. Irish.
>> Yes. Mr. Yaki.
[54:20]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Mi.
[54:21]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Richmond.
[54:23]
» Yes.
>> Mr.
[54:24]
» Yes. Are there any questions? Was the
engineer studying?
[54:31]
» Uh that related something we already
did. Well, that I would need to ask a
[54:36]
shot. Not the engineering study, uh, the
$10,000 allocated for the engineering
[54:40]
study.
>> Right. So, for the year we had budgeted
[54:44]
about $40,000. Um, and I think we've had
some additional projects come along the
[54:49]
way. Um, and right now we are about
5,000 short in that fund. What I'm doing
[54:54]
is adding another five additional 5,000
which hopefully will take us through the
[54:58]
rest of the year. So, the total budget
for the year will be about 50,000.
[55:04]
Oh, I see. It's really more so
engineering studies plural rather than
[55:10]
study, right?
>> I'm sorry. I should have clarified. So,
[55:13]
those are all expenses for engineers
bills for any projects that he's worked
[55:17]
on so far this year.
>> Got it. Thank you.
[55:24]
» Appropriation, right? Again, it's not a
specific.
[55:26]
» Yeah. Yeah.
[55:29]
Okay. Oh, make a motion for us.
>> Okay. We have motion. Motion for passes.
[55:36]
Seconded by Miss David. Would you please
>> Miss David?
[55:40]
» Yes.
>> Mrs. M.
[55:42]
» Yes.
>> Mr.
[55:43]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Richmond.
[55:45]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Vincent.
[55:46]
» Yes.
>> Okay. Thank you, council. That concludes
[55:49]
ordinances this evening. I'll move on to
miscellaneous business by members of
[55:54]
council. Does anyone have miscellaneous
business this evening?
[55:58]
I guess I have a question. Going back to
the opening uh update on the AT&T or the
[56:05]
fiber, um if we were to go back for RFP,
um would you envision that it would be
[56:11]
the same sort of process for getting
back to help us and all that?
[56:16]
» I do not envision that. I think we could
do it on our own with Mr. Hannah,
[56:20]
honestly, because I think we have most
of what we got there. And I think some
[56:24]
of the the legal stuff that we failed to
put in the first one,
[56:28]
» um, Mr. Hannah would assure that we have
got it.
[56:31]
» Um, I will tell you, I've also had, uh,
Omni Fiber reach out to me. I've had,
[56:38]
um, Spectrum reach out to me. Again,
[clears throat]
[56:43]
I'm not sure that that one is viable,
but there's a new group within Spectrum,
[56:48]
Hope Springs Eternal, and they um and
they're now trying to market larger
[56:54]
projects.
>> I have no idea what that really means.
[56:57]
It was just a one conversation, but
they're going to come back to me as
[57:01]
well.
>> Um and my if we go this route again, we
[57:05]
haven't Yeah,
>> sure. They've done it. I I would imagine
[57:07]
that Sugar Valley Geek may still have
interest, although they they're pretty
[57:12]
bogged down with a lot of work that they
have right now is my understanding. But
[57:15]
it'd be interesting to see if they did
ramp up as they intended to in terms of
[57:19]
the
>> capacity they have for you know
[57:24]
one nice thing about the fact
>> we haveations that we will not have the
[57:31]
same similar issues or we don't know as
of yet
[57:37]
with with
that that we're having with AT&T.
[57:42]
» Uh I don't know that I can answer that.
I don't think I really know.
[57:46]
» That would be just sort of be guessing
at the moment.
[57:49]
» Yeah, that's just wondering whether we
had a sense of
[57:52]
» but I think that if I think that if the
conversation is framed Sorry
[57:57]
if the conversation is framed
differently um you know and maybe
[58:01]
keeping in mind the experience that
we've had, we can avoid some of that.
[58:05]
And if the step of reformulating an RFP
were taken and reissuing that, of
[58:10]
course, we would be really clear about,
you know, avoiding some of those
[58:14]
pitfalls.
>> Sure.
[58:15]
» Okay.
>> I guess a bit since we go from the scam.
[58:18]
Uh, do we know how much of the village
now has been covered by AT&T? I think it
[58:22]
was close to 20% back in January, March
or so. And they
[58:27]
» I do not know that answer. I certainly
that would rebase any expectations we
[58:31]
would have for fewer households for any
RP we put out.
[58:35]
» I would assume
>> um
[58:40]
I would suspect that too. Well, unless
we wanted to give them choices beyond.
[58:44]
» Sure.
>> Yes.
[58:46]
» I guess the other the other question is
given the shortfall that was reported
[58:50]
today that we're already half a million
short of expected.
[58:55]
» Would there be a consideration of
wanting to keep our powder dry, you
[58:59]
know, to the $200 million?
>> Very good point. I think before we were
[59:04]
um proate, we would have that
discussion.
[59:08]
No doubt.
Anybody
[59:12]
else have any slips?
>> Yeah, I just had um I just had actually
[59:16]
a couple quick things. Um one was um the
survey. I was just going to leave open
[59:22]
for the month unless anyone had any
ideas to close it. I just assume that
[59:27]
we'll have more power outages and more
people be like, "Yeah, let's fill this I
[59:30]
think August is a good monthly
[59:35]
especially if we're going to have other
you know um aing communities giving the
[59:40]
survey as well. I feel like a while but
I just wanted to check with everyone.
[59:44]
And then um the second thing um was uh
about the um some of you had sent um
[59:50]
stuff about the internship. Um and so I
I was just going to recommend thinking
[59:55]
about spec I didn't put specific dates
in anything and I didn't put specific
[59:58]
number of reference letters or any of
that. So maybe thinking about all those
[1:00:01]
things before the next council's whole
meeting then we can work that out. And
[1:00:06]
the last thing was I got an email about
the Ohio disability conference. I don't
[1:00:11]
know anything about it. Do you all do we
go to that? Do we participate in that or
[1:00:15]
do we get anything out of that? Like
what is that about someone?
[1:00:18]
» We we do get materials from the Ohio
Municipal League, but I don't believe
[1:00:24]
we're members.
>> Okay. I just get these emails.
[1:00:27]
» Oh, we are.
>> Oh, okay.
[1:00:28]
» Oh, we know was a different one. I'm
think there's multiple organizations
[1:00:33]
like this and some we've chosen not to
participate. Maybe OML. We do.
[1:00:37]
» We do.
>> We do get a newsletter from them. Like
[1:00:39]
I'll read from time to time. It'll be a
legislative update from them saying this
[1:00:44]
is what's going on Columbus. This is the
impact of local communities. And I like
[1:00:48]
to be able to read those things.
>> Okay.
[1:00:50]
» But I've never been to a conference that
>> the reason I bring it up is they had
[1:00:55]
» Oh, so I was just going to say I they
the village sent when I first goed
[1:01:00]
to OML sponsored new newly elected
officials. Very helpful.
[1:01:06]
» Yeah, we did that one I think. But um
this other one that they were having, I
[1:01:09]
I just saw that they were talking about
three different things that might be
[1:01:12]
useful for us. Like one was um Ohio
property taxes. I know we're kind of
[1:01:16]
dealing with that. Um and then the
energy landscape was one of them. So So
[1:01:21]
I don't know if that's something we
think about doing. I guess next month or
[1:01:25]
something.
>> Their annual annual conference.
[1:01:27]
» Yeah. September 30th, October 2nd. So I
don't know that
[1:01:30]
» Thomas
>> I
[1:01:33]
saw the email before I came in here
today.
[1:01:37]
Um,
>> we could take a look at it and I mean I'
[1:01:39]
I'd be supportive of if someone wants to
attend or um depending on when it is I
[1:01:45]
could possibly attend. I don't know. I
haven't seen whether I could make it.
[1:01:48]
But
>> you can get those by the way by email if
[1:01:50]
you would
have to get them every Friday.
[1:01:54]
» Okay.
>> Because I went to that one conference
[1:01:55]
and they come on the list. [laughter]
>> Well, maybe that's why.
[1:01:59]
» Yeah.
>> But it looks it looks like it might be
[1:02:01]
useful. some of the topics might be
useful uh to us specifically with all
[1:02:05]
things that we're dealing with right
now. Um so that was just a thought I
[1:02:08]
had. That's it.
>> Thank you. I appreciate that.
[1:02:14]
» Anybody else have anything?
>> Just wanted to confirm that everyone
[1:02:18]
received my email around the salaries
and the
[1:02:22]
» um by council the whole I hope that I
have um firmed up that information. Like
[1:02:29]
I said, it was just internet based
research, but I want to call each each
[1:02:33]
city. And if you think of any other
cities I should reach out to, let me
[1:02:36]
know.
>> Is are the OERS benefits the um are they
[1:02:41]
linear? Like we get half a credit at
6,000. Uh so does it scale? Do you do
[1:02:47]
you know based on the based on the
salary whenever the salary just times
[1:02:51]
the same? I know that from my district
job to this, you know, it's like same.
[1:03:00]
Uh I had one other thing and Steve thank
you for sending out the um your email
[1:03:07]
with us today.
>> Um we we did start a discussion uh at
[1:03:12]
the committee of the whole. I think some
of us were under under the understanding
[1:03:16]
we were you know going to kind of start
from scratch. Uh and um after further
[1:03:23]
discussion uh realized that we have a
good foundation
[1:03:28]
um of those is it four there four or
five there's you know five categories
[1:03:34]
um we all agreed that what we would do
was look at them um you know see if
[1:03:41]
there's any modifications that might
need to be made and maybe identify uh
[1:03:46]
some short-term actions we could take to
advance toward the goals uh or even
[1:03:52]
something you know longer term uh not
not necessarily a a concrete goal but
[1:03:59]
something we're always you know working
toward. So just just yes would like to
[1:04:05]
uh you know remind people to take a look
at that hopefully come prepared at the
[1:04:10]
next briefing.
>> Great. Thank you president.
[1:04:14]
» Yeah. Yeah. Just to real quick follow up
that those those initial goals
[1:04:21]
uh have goal stated goal and then
objectives with most of which are more
[1:04:28]
general rather than specific action
items.
[1:04:33]
So maybe we also look to see whether
there's any specific action items that
[1:04:39]
we think maybe we're not doing that we
want to do versus that six new goal that
[1:04:46]
I was proposing that I also added at the
end of that email that doesn't has that
[1:04:54]
has the goal doesn't have the objectives
but does have a list of potential action
[1:04:59]
items just just FYI. So when you look at
it, you know,
[1:05:04]
um
what's there?
[1:05:09]
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Anything else?
[1:05:12]
» Oh,
one of the the first things I brought up
[1:05:16]
uh when I when I joined uh council was
that, you know, some of the information
[1:05:21]
on our website was a little dated. Like
for instance, the road map was 2022. Uh
[1:05:26]
I've been looking around. It looks
great. A lot of the stuff has been
[1:05:29]
updated. It's current. Um if that's
Sherry that's the individual departments
[1:05:34]
uh it's it's fantastic to have you know
[laughter]
[1:05:40]
it's Sherry
to be able to go to our site and get
[1:05:45]
information
so I just wanted to make sure to address
[1:05:49]
that was something I said earlier this
year so circling back around uh it's
[1:05:54]
it's nice to to have that uh usefulness
>> thank you and thank Mr. That's great.
[1:06:01]
Appreciate that very much.
>> All right. Do I have a motion to
[1:06:05]
adjourn? [clears throat]
>> So moved. Second.
[1:06:08]
» Okay. We have a motion to pass the
presence by Mr. Richmond.
[1:06:12]
» Miss David.
>> Yes. Mrs. Irish.
[1:06:14]
» Yes. Mr.
>> Yes.
[1:06:15]
» Mr. Mik.
>> Yes.
[1:06:17]
» Mr. Richmond.
>> Yes.
[1:06:18]
» Mr. Bington.
>> Yes.
[1:06:20]
» Non non meeting item. Mana
bread.
[1:06:25]
» Oh no. That's what that is.
>> All right.
[1:06:33]
Yeah, feel free to take
down there too. Nice. Thank you.
[1:06:39]
» I've had it before.