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OK, it is March 10th, 2026. Welcome out everybody. I am Mayor Zach Stratton and I'd like to open up our our City Council meeting.
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We have one of our amazing residents, Daria is going to lead us in the.
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Say a prayer for us.
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Pledge of Allegiance? Yes, Sorry.
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Blank that for a second, so come on up.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for this opportunity. Sure.
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Our Father in heaven.
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We are grateful.
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For the opportunity.
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Together, together as residents and City Council and staff.
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The opportunity we have to help vineyards become the.
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The city that.
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Would be a wonderful place to live.
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That will encourage families and businesses to grow and live together in harmony.
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We're grateful for the efforts of this City Council.
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We pray that Thou will bless them in their efforts to.
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Make it a well run city.
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We're grateful for the staff too.
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That put so many hours into their efforts and also the volunteers that.
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Help out in this our city. We're grateful for all of them.
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We pray that.
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We will be continue to be civil and kind and all that we say in and all that we do.
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And these things we thank thee for. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
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Hey man, thank you.
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Please stand.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag.
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Of the United States of America.
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And to the Republic for which it stands.
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One nation under God.
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Indivisible.
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With liberty and justice for all.
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Thank you.
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And Daria.
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You get a pin, Prayers and pledges for pins. So.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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OK, we are.
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Let's do this. Is anybody here for public comment?
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We have a couple.
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OK, let's do that. Let's jump into public comment.
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And then we will go to.
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We'll do the closed door session after that so.
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Yes, please, whoever like to come first, come on down.
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State your name for the record.
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And, umm.
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Yeah, great.
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My name is Tyler Harrelson.
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I'm here to talk to you about 400 S.
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I'm sure you guys have.
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Heard a couple years ago.
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First there was a boy who was hit there 5th grader. It's right between the elementary school and the.
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The park, so a lot of.
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A lot of schoolchildren are passing across this road.
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5th grader got hit.
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Practice goal.
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Was bleeding in three parts of his brain.
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Thankfully.
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Made it out.
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I don't know how OK he is, but he's alive.
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A year later, a 17 year old girl was running across and was hit and killed.
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I would like.
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The council? I asked this of the last council before the girl got hit.
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After the boy got hit.
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I was on the bike advisory Commission and I said hey.
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Like we should do something about this. This road is dangerous and we should do it now.
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Like if you had a construction zone, you want to keep your construction.
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Construction.
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You build sort of these temporary.
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Cones and barrels type of.
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Of barriers to keep them safe.
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And I was like, why don't we do that?
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So we can respond quickly.
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While we're working on a long term solution.
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That fell on deaf ears.
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And then Sienna got hit.
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And killed.
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And after that I.
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Came back to the council and said.
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We should do.
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As I said a year ago, we should.
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Do these cones and barrels and put up.
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Something safe?
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Immediately so someone doesn't get hit and killed again.
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And they basically told me.
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You know, it's a really sensitive time. Someone just died.
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So I came back several months later.
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After things had calmed down, said the same thing.
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Deaf ears.
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So I hope that you guys will listen more than the previous Council did.
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I think that.
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It's a little unorthodox to do this sort of thing, but I think it would be very beneficial. It's low cost.
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If you.
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Put up a design that.
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Doesn't work for all your needs.
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You can take it back down or rearrange it.
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Like the worst thing that you can get to is just.
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Taken down the cones and.
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Going back to what you're at right now.
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I think it's responsive to the needs of the local people. You can involve them into the decision. You can involve parents.
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So I would like you to do that.
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That's actually a really good idea, thanks.
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I have been a supporter of Tyler's and he if we could sit.
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And learn about it. I sent.
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I didn't send you, but I sent the other.
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Gentleman, that was with you that day.
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They're great. They bolt right into the road.
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And when citizens complain about the speed?
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They're really great.
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For slowing it down.
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Yeah, if we're going to build the road that we are on, 400 SI want them right on my house.
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Because they die fast.
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Yeah, that's my comment.
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Thank you.
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I might just add that we have.
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1 intersection there by the by the.
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The West side of the school. This.
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Going to be rebuilt this coming.
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Season and so that'll help there a great deal and on the other side we're.
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Sierra, I'm at her end over there.
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We've been trying to, we've been starting to get in talks with that. It's been restricted already. That's already started to help.
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I think.
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And then we're.
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We have we're in talks to try to realign that.
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Intersection as well.
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Yeah. And that's great.
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It's just it takes so long and it can be very expensive and.
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I think it.
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You know, human errors a thing so.
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Maybe the new design won't do what you want. I think it'd be better to.
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Put it up in cones and barrels as much as you can. Obviously you can't realign an intersection with cones and barrels.
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But as much as you can to do it now, test it out now.
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And then put in the permanent.
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While you're working on the permanent solution.
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So thank you.
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Thank you, Sir.
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Julie, did you want?
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Or who? Who else? Who outside of? Yes, please come on up.
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OK, thanks.
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So I was just writing. Oh, sorry. Sherry K Miller, Holdaway Rd. member of the Arts Commission.
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OK, I'm.
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Trying to write down these things because I just found out tonight that there's going to be a discussion on the Arch Commission.
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The grant proposals.
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So I'm here as a citizen and a member of that. So I just want to give you a little bit of a heads up of what the process has been.
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So last fall.
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Oh sorry I'm out of breath. The the grants we had $20,000 that we as an arts Commission where?
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Designed to get proposals.
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And then decide and.
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Proportion out what we thought was the best for Vineyard City.
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OK, so that was done.
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We actually on January 15th met and we as members of the Commission.
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Were to score all of the proposals.
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Anyway, so on the 15th they showed that the proposals had been scored.
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And I don't remember all that. I was trying to look it up on the phone right now from Brian Vaudrey, but the Vineyard Heritage
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Commission had scored the highest as far as.
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In that initial discussion of what was.
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A good and needed thing for the for Vineyard and the proposal for Vineyard Heritage Foundation was.
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To prepare.
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4th grade curriculum for the four schools. Elementary schools in Vineyard.
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I had previously before.
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Talked to principals and other people and had.
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A sense that it was.
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A desirable thing.
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Principals, teachers liked it anyway. OK.
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So we had the discussion.
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Proportions were made. It was that.
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The Heritage Foundation was to get 700.
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57,500 and I.
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Don't have all the other amounts, It doesn't matter.
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Anyway, so.
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It was going to be voted on in the city. It didn't get voted on.
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We anyway they met again.
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I happen to be out of town. I've missed 2 meetings in the three years that I have been part of it. I missed this meeting.
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And I'm away with family on an event and I get this e-mail from Brian that says.
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Just want to let you know how they went.
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And it turned out that.
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Without great detail.
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The Heritage Commission ended up getting $0.00.
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So we went from having.
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The highest grading as far as the.
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This group.
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To 0.
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And then not even not.
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Even that.
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Was the fact that.
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They had decided that.
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Some of the money.
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Was going to be held over to go to the skate park that already had half $1,000,000 allocated for it that they weren't even going
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to give that to the Heritage Foundation.
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It was just going to be held over for another year and not used.
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For this project.
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And I was just like.
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I mean, it was a gut punch.
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And these were the reasons that they gave.
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The teachers may not want to teach it.
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Right. How? Whatever.
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How are you going to do it?
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Blah blah blah blah.
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And.
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That one of them was.
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And the money that the Heritage Foundation got for the sign for the Geneva ladle, they haven't spent the money yet.
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So I just want to.
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Just to let people know.
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That after we had the initial grant that we thought we were going to get for Seven 500, I had already contacted Ben Johnson, who
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is the history.
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Education and history professor at University of Utah.
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We were already.
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Having.
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He had contacted principals that he knew and and teachers and we were already in the process of doing this.
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And then we find out.
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We get $0.00.
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So that discounts the fact that and I won't mention names.
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That they were saying they wouldn't like it, blah blah blah blah.
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And that.
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Principals wouldn't be interested.
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And then?
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The last thing, just for what it's worth.
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We've worked really hard for this sign that's going to be up in front of the ladle and it's going to be amazing.
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We had 7.
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7 estimates.
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Refining Design.
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Blah, blah, blah. It's already under contract. It's going to be up and wonderful so.
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It was just a gut punch.
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I'm just letting you know that that is.
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What happened? And the only thing I want to say is you can decide if you think that this is right or the process worked
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efficiently.
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Thank you so much. One clarifying question, Sherry Kay.
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We have a question too for you. That's all right way fast.
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You want to go first. The ladle you're referring to, is that the one over there by the forge? Kind of, yes. And I have pictures. I
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can show you what it's going to look like if you go ahead. So the previous proposal for how that grant money was going to be spent
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was actually given to the council back in January.
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We had it on an agenda item to review and when.
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It came up to be.
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Discussed.
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Parks and Rec asked us to not discuss it yet then. And do you know why that is? I actually emailed Brian Vaudrey and I said Brian
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question.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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He had.
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To set in that meeting.
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That there was still time.
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Before the grant needed to be finalized and they were looking at, you know, some reallocation of a couple things, specifically the
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skate park money.
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Was what he had said in that that meeting.
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Do you know of other factors that maybe influence that delay? Well, you know what I got in, I got the e-mail saying that it's
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going to be discussed tonight and I said, Brian.
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We we didn't finalize this.
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I said.
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My question was.
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We don't. We haven't talked to the city about liability.
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We haven't talked about these things. It wasn't decided on in the Arts Commission.
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As a whole.
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I mean.
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And I hadn't missed any meetings.
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So he said.
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You're right, whatever. And so it got postponed and I'm not trying to take credit for it, but.
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It just hasn't run very.
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Smooth, efficiently communication.
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Whatever, I would also just be curious into looking into why the.
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They took away that chunk of money from the Arts Commission, if I recall correctly, and I take pretty.
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Not from the Arts Commission, the foundation. Oh, my apologies. That's great.
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That all of us were kind of in agreeance that that was a good.
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Good allocation of those funds because it allowed, you know, for support when we do events and volunteerism and things like that.
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Yeah, so I.
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Well, and like I said that when Brian sent me that e-mail and then this is what the members of the Arts Commission had said, that
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why they had taken it to 0.
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Principals aren't interested teachers. Whatever. We can have a book in the library. I mean, it was just like.
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You know what I mean? It was like.
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We already had.
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All of those things were already.
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Locked and loaded.
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Yeah, OK.
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You're awesome. Thank you so much. Sorry. Thank you.
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Awesome. All right. Anybody else?
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Yes, come on down.
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Sorry, while you're coming up, Sherry, are you planning to stick around for the agenda item as well?
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I figured I'd just hold my questions till then.
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In town, so I would.
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So I could.
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When is it in another?
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Could we maybe just move that one up so we can?
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Yeah, have her input. I do have some more questions.
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For sure.
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I'm Darlene Price, I live in the Villas, and I want to say first of all, kudos for whoever painted the bike lane in the crosswalk
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screen that are over by Bella's restaurant Bella's.
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Shopping thing and they really stand out.
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And I was.
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Wondering if it was?
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If that was something that they were required to do or is it something that we can do with our bike lanes that we have on venue
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on?
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Vineyard Rd.
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They get lost the second you turn the corner.
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And you're driving in a bike lane.
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And and I found myself doing that more than once.
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I am concerned about still.
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The the Sheriff's Department and.
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What are the? What are the rules for?
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Now that we've moved into motor scooters.
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That are small. That little kids are writing.
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I about hit this kid coming out of.
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Hold away.
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Road add on to is it Vineyard?
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That intersection where the basketball court is.
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OK, so he was coming.
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Out of there. And he didn't even stop.
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He just went straight out into the road, so I slammed on my brakes and he looked at me like, what are you doing? And then he went
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over the other side and the person coming the other way about hit him.
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And he was like maybe six or seven years old.
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And he probably didn't hit the flashing lights either, right?
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Probably would be my guess.
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That you know what The cars. The cars don't stop for that either.
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So I just think there needs to be some education.
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Especially with the kids, especially those motorized bikes.
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The Street.
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If we painted the lanes green.
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You say you have to drive in the Green Lane.
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Yeah, this is my thought. I appreciate it. Thank you. Especially right now when it's starting to warm up and everyone's getting
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out so.
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David Carlos.
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Get with communications, we talked about that, just doing some education posts and pushing that out there with withholding. Are
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there are there rules for that? Are there laws for that?
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Yeah, please go ahead, Holden. That'd be so the state legislature we were we I'd been asked to look into updating our ordinances
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regarding the motorized.
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Or electric scooters, electric bikes, all the.
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All the electric things.
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But the state and what the legislative session, they had a couple, they had a bill regarding that and I'm waiting to see how that
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turned out before we.
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Draft our ordinance to make sure we don't conflict with the state. Well, I think we went from skateboards to motorized all of a
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sudden and we weren't ready for that. There definitely are a lot of them, but yeah, we are working on that.
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Yeah. OK. Thank you.
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You're awesome.
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OK.
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Yeah, please. Come on up, Sir.
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State your name, Ryan Francis. I live in the gardens.
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Excuse me, ignorance haven't been one of these. There's an agenda item about parking and occupancy if I comment now or do I do it
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when you do that?
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The comment now that'd be great. OK then we'll probably take as we're talking about, we'll ask you.
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OK, great. I've lived here for 10 years in the gardens and we just have a.
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Two houses. Actually, three houses.
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That are over renting. They have a renter upstairs and renter downstairs that are not.
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They're not they're and they're not living in the primary residence.
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It creates a huge problem for us just with parking. Kind of what really spurred me to be like really adamant about this is my
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daughter almost got hit by a car. She was crossing the street to her neighbor's house. They had like.
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5 or 6 cars because they have so many occupants.
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And they came around a long corner and.
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Luckily she didn't get hit. It was really close and.
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We reported this like, I don't know, 5 or 6 times.
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We've even had.
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Cash over to my house. We had a big discussion and everything as a neighborhood.
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It feels to me a little bit like it falls on deaf ears.
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And or there's a lot of loopholes that allow them to keep doing what they're doing, like.
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One of the renters tried to have the 2.
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Groups enter an LLC together and become owner of the house so they can be in the house.
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And then he had him sign as his roommates and it's just kind of a mess and.
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It's just something that.
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I mean, I, I'm very active in this community is like park and recs. I coach a lot of teams. I really love Vineyard, but it is a
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driving force to make us leave the community because.
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It's such a problem and.
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We reported.
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The corner house even and recently because they.
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They've moved people out, So what they'll do is they'll get reported, they'll move out people in the basement, and then a month
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later they'll just move more people in.
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And uh.
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He came to my house and got confronted my wife about reporting them and was told that the city.
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Gave her name to him, the owner of the house. So he knocked on my door.
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And said, why are you reporting? Why are you harassing my people and.
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Had a like got really upset with my wife which I'm not really happy about either so.
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It's just frustrating because, and I am here because I just want to applaud like.
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Ezra Nair and Jacob Wood because I feel like there is some traction being talked about with things.
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It's just something that is.
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I feel really passionate about and even my next door neighbor.
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They just moved in. They just built an AUD.
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Or whatever ado you or whatever it is.
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And.
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They he just put us on in his garage.
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And has two cars in his driveway.
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Has his two renters on the street and has two company cars on the street as well. So now he has.
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5.
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I mean, his five vehicles on the street and our roads just aren't built for it and.
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You know, we just moved your sister into our neighborhood.
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Probably the nicest person I've ever met my whole life, by the way.
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And and.
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That you will talk to her and I'm sure she'll mention that there's a gentleman next door. Where do you live? I live in just like.
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There's an elbow near her so I just live over there, but OK.
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Anyway, I really mean that. She's so nice, but you'll probably talk to her and there's someone who.
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Parks a huge boat in that neighborhood and just moves it around and yeah, there's just some things that happen that I, I really
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applaud that this is happening. So I just am here to voice my support of that and.
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Would appreciate if.
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So we could have some kind of change.
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Yeah. Thank you for the time.
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I I hear about the over occupancy issue probably every day. I have a similar situation. My next door so my wife we're aligned so
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we're.
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Do what we can.
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Anybody else?
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Before.
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OK, you don't have.
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Reports on the agenda. Can I share on that real quick? Yeah, go ahead.
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Go ahead. So a couple weeks ago.
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For the people who had been following along with City Council.
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We had a lot of.
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Outreach. Uh.
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From uh.
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Le Cheminant and the surrounding neighborhoods over there.
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To get a better understanding of what that looked like.
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I made it a point to go drive.
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Through that neighborhood between 8:00 and 10:00 PM.
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A couple nights.
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Two weeks ago.
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And I was.
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Really surprised at how bad the problem actually was.
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I counted 5 stop signs.
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That were completely and totally blocked.
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There were houses that had cars hanging off of.
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Sidewalks, I mean, just.
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There were houses that had, you know.
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Full driveways.
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And both sides of the street and both sides of the house, I mean, just completely blocked. So visibility was poor. There were cars
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that were parked on red, red curbs. I mean, the whole kitten caboodle blocked fire hydrants.
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I reached out to.
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Chief Deputy Holden.
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That evening and just asked.
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You know, would you, when you have the available manpower send somebody to just go patrol that because I think a little bit of
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enforcement when it comes to.
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Blocking the stop sign, blocking the fire hydrants.
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A little bit of enforcement probably goes a long way to deterring that.
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I did also note in some of those neighborhoods there's.
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Areas where there aren't.
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Any cars parked?
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Which means that people are just parking in those.
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Unsafe positions largely for their own convenience. At least that's what that signals to me.
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As opposed to parking down the road and walking to their house.
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So I think a little bit of enforcement goes a long way. I'd like to, you know, request that when there's that availability we
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keep.
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Looking at how to alleviate that that safety issue just by sending somebody over and.
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Writing a ticket when it's obviously an illegal park.
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Yeah, OK. Thank you, Sir.
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OK, Holden wants to say something. Holden to follow up. Oh, please go ahead and your request.
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I think we've written 10 citations in that neighborhood since your call.
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Towed some vehicles and stickered a whole bunch of vehicles as well. OK appreciate that. Go Team USA.
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Go team Sheriffs.
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OK, all righty.
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With that, yeah, Sir, please come on down.
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So my name is Mike Lamont. I'm the CEO of Utah Parking Authority. I was just coming to watch today, but this kind of spurred some.
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Some thoughts that I thought I'd bring up.
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I think there's a lot of miscommunication that's going on with parking enforcement right now and the needs I've been watching the
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last couple weeks.
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Your proceedings online and it seems like there are a lot of residents. We, we are the contracted company for your public streets.
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Right now.
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In Vineyard and.
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I just think there's a lot of miscommunication and and.
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Stuff around parking enforcement right now and.
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You know the use of.
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Predatory parking.
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Enforcement is being thrown around.
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You can really see.
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The needs of the of the city for some type of enforcement and.
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You know in.
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In general, kind of the way that.
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Parking goes.
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There's either the.
[34:37]
The city or the private property owner, Which?
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It appears have the same needs. You know that whether it's a private road or a public St. you know they have the same needs.
[34:45]
There's over occupancy, there's way too many cars on the road.
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And.
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So it's it's an issue that we've been dealing with for a while.
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But more specifically.
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On the public roads.
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300 W for example, you know you guys, you guys decided to not require a permit there anymore.
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But when that was initially rolled out, it was rolled out in a way that.
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There were months of notifications. There were.
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25.
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Courtesy signs put all along the road saying.
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A permit for the public Rd. was was necessary.
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We put all our signs at all the entrances to those roads saying that you will be towed if you don't have a permit.
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You know, and then.
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We have a member of the City Council that goes on to KSL News and says.
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Over 200 cars were booted every every car on the road. Over 200 cars were booted in a night.
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Which is.
[35:41]
Absolutely not true.
[35:43]
There were never more than 10 cars booted.
[35:46]
Sounds like kind of the same type of issue that's going on in other communities, but.
[35:52]
You know, I just want to make myself available to the Council.
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We take very detailed records of every enforcement that we do.
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There is never a time that we're going to enforce something that you haven't specifically asked for. So if you ask us to go at
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1:15 AM to 5:00 AM.
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Boot cars on this public Rd. that don't have a permit.
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That's what we're going to do and so to be.
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Cast as.
[36:18]
Predatory in that way when we're.
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Not only limiting enforcement, but doing exactly what?
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We've been contracted to do, you know, it's a little bit frustrating and.
[36:27]
And you know, we, we are.
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Here to serve the Vineyard community, whether it be.
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On the public streets or the private streets, which like I said, have the same.
[36:38]
Issues going on right now in Vineyard City, but.
[36:41]
But uh.
[36:42]
With that being said, if there is ever a dispute or a complaint.
[36:45]
On parking enforcement matter.
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At any point you guys can call my office.
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Text my cell phone.
[36:53]
Holden has my cell phone number.
[36:55]
You guys can text me and say hey, I've got a dispute on this. Someone's claiming to have been.
[36:59]
Sitting in their car when they got booted.
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We can pull all the enforcement records for it, all the detailed time stamped pictures, videos, everything that we take.
[37:09]
License plate recognition reads everything and.
[37:13]
Send it over to you so you have access to all of that information.
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At all times, so there should never be a dispute where you can't.
[37:20]
Ask for information on it.
[37:22]
We're always there. So thank you, Sir. Thank you. Appreciate that. Could I ask a question though?
[37:26]
So if you if you boot a car and so forth, what what's?
[37:30]
What was the cost to the person who's been booted to get the?
[37:33]
And to both, yeah. So what's the cost for both?
[37:37]
OK, so.
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Those prices are set by the state back in 2011.
[37:44]
The state set the boot fee at $75. It's been that way ever since. So right now it's $75.00 to get a boot off.
[37:52]
And then?
[37:53]
If the boot stays on for more than 24 hours, which we usually.
[37:56]
Tow it in to recover the equipment, but if it does stay on for over 24 hours, you can charge an additional $25 a day.
[38:03]
For up to three days.
[38:05]
In storage fees.
[38:07]
And so.
[38:09]
For an impound.
[38:11]
First day impound if they come during business hours.
[38:14]
It's I believe it's.
[38:18]
Did I just send that over to you?
[38:19]
I think it was, I think it's like 312.
[38:21]
Or something.
[38:22]
They're an 812 dollars, yeah. And then it's.
[38:25]
$25 or it's $42.00 a day in storage.
[38:31]
What was the toffee? Sorry, 312 I believe.
[38:35]
Yeah, it fluctuates a little bit with.
[38:37]
Fuel prices.
[38:39]
Awesome.
[38:40]
OK, Alrighty. Thank you.
[38:43]
With that, we're going to close public comment.
[38:46]
And I let's move into the closed session.
[38:50]
Before we jump into that, just.
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To be as transparent as possible and share the information.
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The intent behind the closed session is to.
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Review personnel matters. We're looking at hiring.
[39:03]
Staffing positions in the city and just are discussing that.
[39:07]
Yes, very good.
[39:08]
So on those lines in the future, can we?
[39:11]
Since we're now just posting when we need it, can we actually post the?
[39:15]
Reason one reason instead of just listening all of them.
[39:17]
Can we put that into the notes?
[39:19]
Yeah, Yeah. That'd be great. Yeah. That's a great call. Thank you, guys.
[39:22]
OK, so can I'll take a motion.
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On this item.
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I make a motion to move into closed session.
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On March 10th at.
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6:28 PM.
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Here in the Council meeting.
[39:38]
And then the reason to.
[39:39]
Oh, the reason is.
[39:41]
Two in the green there a discuss.
[39:45]
The character professional competency in physical mental health. And no, it's not. It's collective bargaining, right?
[39:50]
No, no, it's a day.
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OK.
[39:57]
Do I have a second?
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Come on.
[40:03]
I think you pretty much covered the whole thing is that.
[40:05]
Yeah, I couldn't hear everything through the mic, but I'll second. That's fine.
[40:10]
Second, by Councilman, there is that a second answer?
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OK. All right.
[40:14]
Let's do this, or by roll call. We'll start here on my left.
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Parker, hi.
[40:17]
Jake I.
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David.
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I and Ezra.
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Motion passes.
[40:23]
All right, we will be.
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Right back.
[40:33]
Thank you.
[40:41]
Yeah, let's just do that, are we? We locked and loaded. Okay, awesome.
[40:45]
All right, I would.
[40:47]
We are gonna.
[40:49]
If I could get a motion, we are going to.
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Leave the public or sorry, the.
[40:54]
Closed meeting.
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I'll make that motion.
[40:59]
I second it.
[41:00]
All in favor.
[41:01]
I think we have to vote. Is that roll call as well?
[41:03]
To leave the.
[41:05]
OK, sounds good, Councilman Cumber. Aye.
[41:07]
Jacob all the way I.
[41:10]
I'm not sure we're voting on.
[41:11]
Coming out of closed session.
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Closed session hi.
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Councilman era I.
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Awesome. Thank you. Motion passes.
[41:19]
Alrighty, we're going to jump into the work session. We've got 3.1.
[41:23]
The Public Safety Impact Fee facilities Plan and impact fee analysis. I'm going to turn the time to Councilman Holdaway.
[41:30]
To lead this discussion.
[41:32]
Had the opportunity to go and and go on a tour with our excellent fire department and staff and they're incredible. We spent a
[41:35]
couple hours.
[41:40]
Going over our.
[41:42]
Fire safety plan for our wetlands and helping them understand a lot of different things and the topic came up about the public
[41:45]
safety impact fee.
[41:49]
I want to thank Karen Cornelius for.
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Talking about this for many years and bringing this to the attention of how important it is to make sure those are updated.
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And that they are.
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A fraction and an update to to the plans that we're going to be having in vineyards so.
[42:06]
The work session is just to talk about. You guys have any issues?
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With the mayor.
[42:11]
Reaching out to.
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The sheriff and also to the fire department.
[42:16]
To look into.
[42:19]
Reevaluating and updating our public safety impact fees.
[42:23]
For facilities and the plan and the impact.
[42:26]
The analysis.
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And it's been years since that has been updated.
[42:32]
Thanks, Jake.
[42:34]
Can I ask a?
[42:35]
Question SO.
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As I'm trying to get a grasp on.
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Impact fees.
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I've and I recognize decisions.
[42:44]
Should not be made in a vacuum and we need to look at the holistic thing and as we try to get a hand on the budget, it's very
[42:48]
important that we get the impact fees right.
[42:52]
To help us not have to pull money from what those should be covering to cover other things, right? We just end up with a bigger
[42:55]
deficit that way.
[42:59]
I'm under the impression right now and maybe city staff and.
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Our fire department representative can help.
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I'm under the impression that.
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Larger buildings, such as the ones being developed in Utah City.
[43:14]
Necessarily require different public safety infrastructure. Higher ladders, bigger.
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Equipment and utility.
[43:21]
Things. I don't know what all those are because I'm not a firefighter. I apologize.
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But I'm under the impression that we're not.
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Currently charging impact fees that are adequate to cover those expenses or costs for our.
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Public safety departments like the fire department.
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Is that accurate?
[43:38]
We do not currently charge any public safety impact fee in the city.
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Yeah.
[43:43]
Correct. Residential commercial. We do not charge a public safety impact fee.
[43:47]
Right. So because of that, that leaves U.S. Open and massive gap.
[43:53]
And so by.
[43:55]
Putting this in, we can make sure that this doesn't come out of the general fund or other.
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Tax revenues.
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And make sure that.
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The facilities.
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Built in the future are off of those impact fees.
[44:08]
I can also give some brief background here, very brief. About probably 6 months ago, we, we directed our planner, Rachel to do the
[44:11]
study.
[44:15]
Rather than contract that out and so she's been working on that, We have an excellent draft study that is required in order to do
[44:19]
an impact fee analysis.
[44:23]
So she worked really closely with our Sheriff's Department with Orem Fire to gather kind of all the future demands that we're
[44:28]
going to need. So it goes into details of what type of fire apparatus do we need.
[44:32]
For Utah City, or whatever it may be.
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And then it gives us essentially a.
[44:37]
An outline of what these expenses are going to be, when we're going to need them.
[44:41]
And now that we have that study done, we, we need to present to the council for adoption. Once that's happened, we can then work
[44:47]
on doing this impact fee analysis, which we've gotten 2 bids from that, that we have what we'll probably bring back maybe next
[44:52]
week or the following week to, to enter into a contract with so that they can take that study and they can.
[44:59]
Actually get us the numbers of.
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For every new residential building that comes online, they need to pay X amount per unit.
[45:04]
For every commercial X amount per square footage.
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And then we can start collecting that impact fee.
[45:10]
Awesome.
[45:11]
So just the thing on the work session is just.
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I think this is a top priority in terms of our budget constraints and issues, so.
[45:19]
And I do believe that the the.
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Financial Group that we staff is recommending is just below $15,000 to conduct the study.
[45:28]
And is 50 yeah, I think 14,700 or something like that and.
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The the.
[45:34]
The other thing is just make sure.
[45:37]
Working in conjunction with Holden and.
[45:39]
And yeah, they.
[45:41]
All of us have been working really well together on this project so far so.
[45:44]
OK. Yeah. Well, I guess in next week, would you like it on the agenda to?
[45:49]
For the ability for the mayor to enter into this contract.
[45:52]
Next council meeting, so two weeks.
[45:54]
Yeah, 2 weeks.
[45:56]
Councilman, if we could still have the information at the work session next Tuesday, I'd appreciate it, just so that we can.
[46:01]
Review, do you want to see the study or do you want to see like the contract? What, what would you want to see? I'd like to see
[46:04]
the study and you can just e-mail me that I can send it out.
[46:08]
Put that on the work session agenda so that it's if there's something to be brought up about it, we want to have discussion, we
[46:12]
want to seek more information. We can cover that.
[46:16]
Yeah, we can. I can definitely all send that up tomorrow. We do have the contracts on this agenda. So we're good there.
[46:21]
Study. Yes. OK. Do you want to see this person?
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Thank you.
[46:26]
Anybody else OK?
[46:27]
Already. Let's jump to 3.2 parking enforcement discussion. I'm going to turn the time to Councilman there. Yes, I promise I'll be
[46:31]
quick on this.
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So, umm.
[46:36]
I live in a neighborhood that has some some parking issues. I'm actually.
[46:39]
On a private street, but there's adjacent neighborhoods that have public streets and, and one of the kind of low hanging fruits we
[46:45]
were trying to solve just as neighbors and, and, and people looking at this is how can we address this over occupancy in a way
[46:51]
that that can, can be immediate without necessarily building up the code enforcement capacity.
[46:56]
One way we found to do that is, is through parking enforcement and so came up with just like a general.
[47:01]
Plan that hoping to to.
[47:03]
Adopt A program that has worked in other areas and.
[47:07]
Could be good for.
[47:09]
For cities to basically opt into this baseline program.
[47:13]
That would kind of get all the low hanging fruit and then each city or each neighborhood could.
[47:17]
Kind of work and see what would work best for their community.
[47:20]
But umm.
[47:21]
What we've kind of come up with is that.
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We would contract with University Parking Authority.
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Have the app where you can request digital passes every household.
[47:30]
Would be eligible for one automatic overnight parking pass.
[47:34]
Through the app you could easily switch which car has that digital pass. You just put all your cars in the app.
[47:39]
You can move so every every home.
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Would get one overnight pass.
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Now.
[47:44]
There's another thing that we'd like to kind of look at is that homes would be able to.
[47:48]
Request an additional pass if their owner occupied non rental units.
[47:52]
Or if they're on a.
[47:54]
Owner occupied rental units, if they have a business license, which means they've already gone through the city to add the extra
[47:58]
parking space, they've already kind of fulfilled their end of the bargain for for parking requirements and that would help give
[48:02]
the city a little bit of oversight into.
[48:06]
To how those are going and making sure that those households that have, you know, 678 people living there and all parked on the
[48:09]
street.
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Wouldn't be happening.
[48:16]
Additionally, homeowners could request a temporary pass.
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We could do that for like up to a month at a time or a couple weeks, whatever.
[48:24]
I wouldn't seek your guys's input as well and talking with community as well.
[48:27]
We'd keep those overnight enforcement hours to 1:00 AM to 5:00 AM.
[48:31]
So it's just this overnight enforcement.
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Which would.
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Allow a lot of the residents more visitor parking during the day as well.
[48:38]
And then?
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Basically that was it. I would think the shaman. I've talked to people in the shaman on Bridgeport.
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Westbrook.
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Cottonwoods.
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And.
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Few others as well.
[48:50]
The Gardens.
[48:52]
There was one other ones.
[48:54]
But anyway, it covered like 80% of the public St. and neighborhood streets.
[48:59]
That are experiencing these issues and would see a lot of benefits in this process. So there's just a couple like considerations
[49:03]
I'd love the council to think about as we.
[49:07]
Kind of work through this.
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There is like a $20 annual fee for each pass.
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For for the app.
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That either the city could pick up so we could say.
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Homeowners get it free, we recognize.
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The city would take this on.
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Because of the.
[49:22]
Like it lowers the demand form for city.
[49:24]
And sorry, my voice was shot from the Texas Tech game.
[49:28]
It lowers the demand from.
[49:30]
City services to have.
[49:32]
These parking issues address there's there's safer streets, there's less burden on the city resources. And so that might be worth
[49:37]
the city just picking that up or we could we could, you know, charge for.
[49:42]
Second pass so we could we could charge.
[49:45]
You know, the rate that you know would cover our staff time too or we could just look at the administrative fee. But anyway, those
[49:49]
are a lot of considerations. I just want to bring that up just so you guys all have a preview to.
[49:54]
We've been looking at and would be happy to get your input on all those minute details and.
[49:59]
Hopefully we can get to a good consensus.
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Sure.
[50:03]
Possible or reasonable to?
[50:05]
I don't know if that's something you want to spearhead or send it to maybe some city staff, but.
[50:10]
To conduct a study, what neighborhoods would we get? Maybe like 75% buy in? I think that's what we've previously used.
[50:16]
As a threshold to implement at the neighborhood level.
[50:19]
And the reason I bring that up is.
[50:21]
You know, going back to the conversations we've had.
[50:23]
In the last few sessions about.
[50:26]
One size not fitting all and.
[50:28]
Let's not apply something to the entire city. If it's more specific to helping certain neighborhoods and if those neighborhoods
[50:32]
support it, then we want to enable them in in having that.
[50:37]
But that doesn't mean other neighborhoods want to have that.
[50:41]
Yeah, I think, you know, we could do that. I have been talking to.
[50:45]
You know, Mayor gave me permission to work with.
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Our former planning Director at the time and then cash on.
[50:51]
The.
[50:52]
Parking study that we did, getting the numbers and kind of seeing which streets are having these major issues.
[50:57]
One of the big things that we talked about were.
[50:59]
That some of these neighborhoods are so overrun with rentals already that yeah, that's 75% threshold is just unreachable and so.
[51:06]
Implementing this, we may get complaints from those people that are renting out excessively, but I think there's enough support
[51:10]
from from people who live here.
[51:14]
Who want to raise their families here, who don't want to have to move out because of.
[51:17]
Some of these issues.
[51:20]
That I would be supportive of.
[51:22]
Saying without the 75% support, let's let's implement that and.
[51:27]
You know, see if we do need to have that, would you say that would be for all of the neighborhoods in?
[51:31]
In your area or just a city? Bridgeport and Lechevano, right?
[51:35]
So I've gotten buy in from Bridgeport, LA Shaman at the Gardens, Cottonwoods, Westbrook.
[51:40]
And.
[51:41]
The maples, that was the last one, so winds are up that way.
[51:45]
Windsor's private streets? Yep.
[51:47]
Right. But yeah, those those are the public neighborhoods that have gotten and I also did want to present this to.
[51:54]
To any other neighborhood who is interested in something like this that would.
[51:57]
Kind of.
[51:58]
Put those limits in place.
[51:59]
We do have those reasonable accommodations, but.
[52:02]
Something that would get really all that low hanging fruit of those those really high occupancy rentals. Could you could you go
[52:05]
through the?
[52:08]
Proposal so it was. So if you live in the home you get 2 passes? Is that what you said? So you get one automatically, one auto?
[52:15]
And then?
[52:16]
A homeowner could request if they are owner occupied.
[52:20]
Or.
[52:23]
An owner occupied nonrental.
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Or if their owner occupied rental if they have a business license. So that was kind of the thought there.
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There was some debate amongst.
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All the people I've been talking to on Should we charge for that second pass?
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What would those charges look like?
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I know we used to have a $60.00 annual pass for for.
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For some, that was trying to cover city staff time as well.
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Just the the fee for the app is $20 annually, so.
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I feel like.
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There was maybe some support on those nominal fees. I honestly would like to.
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Try to figure out if we could carve out a way to have exceptions for.
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Households that have like a lot of teenage drivers.
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We don't want to discourage.
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People from having kids or having their family members drive, but.
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Just something to help.
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Focus on those ones or.
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Or restrict the.
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The rentals would be.
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That would be hugely helpful. There was.
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A decade where I had a used car lot in my front yard because all my I had five kids, five teenagers at the time, right?
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So yeah.
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I hope I can make a comment or not, I'd be happy to.
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Would you come up to the microphone? Come up to the mic, Sir, please.
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Come on up.
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Sorry, I'm not very professional. I came over here in my sweats because I was like.
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Shoot, the meetings today come as you are so.
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Yeah, Hamlet Gordillo from Le Cheminant.
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Your favorite neighborhood?
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Because of these problems, right?
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Anyway.
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Yeah, just wanted to.
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Because we met up as a neighborhood.
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Briefly and.
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We had a couple of families. They loved the ideas of this happening.
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There are a couple of concerns where there's a couple families that do have several children where they're like Eric, we have two
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kids that are going to be getting old enough.
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Where they're going to have.
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At least one extra car for the kid.
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Or both. So they just.
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Kind of want.
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The City Council to keep that in mind.
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But they love the idea of doing something.
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With it because they're like, we want our streets.
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Save for our kids to.
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Be running out there.
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Skating.
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Scootering, running, whatever.
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Playing around.
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So I'd be happy if you need some more data from Le Cheminant or need to speak to get some of these families to be representatives
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to share some of their thoughts, I'd be happy to.
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Get their input as well.
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So.
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I've talked to several of them. They'd be happy to do that.
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I just need a point of contact.
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#2 is just making sure that.
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I know like again we talked about 75%.
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Unfortunately.
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Looking at maps and kind of getting just some anecdotal data of.
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What?
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The ratio is of actual families to rentals.
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It's yeah, I'd say it's probably about 5050 and lemonade.
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Roughly.
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So it'll be difficult to get that. And what worries me too is a lot of assemblies are very.
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In pro of a solution.
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I just worry about that.
[55:10]
Blowback that's going to come from all the college students.
[55:14]
LLC, all the people that own the properties, so it's seeing like, OK, what can we best do to kind of deal with that?
[55:20]
Blowback that will come afterwards that are not the families there. So I just kind of wanted to bring that up as well to kind of
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keep it so 75% is not reachable. What is a reachable number? What do you think was appropriate?
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I don't know.
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I was going to say I'd have to go.
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I mean it.
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I really don't know. I'll have.
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Base, I know I'm familiar with neighbors within a couple blocks of our neighborhood just because I interact with them and talk
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with them. So I could go around and kind of.
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Get in a rough estimate in terms of a couple blocks. So again, anecdotal.
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But uh.
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To be like, OK, out of the houses within these many blocks, these are the many.
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Families that said yes.
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All these others are rentals. So I can automatically most likely assume that will be say no, yeah, yeah. So.
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I I think this is great. The only thing that I would say is that in each neighborhood.
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Following.
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What Councilman Wood is trying to do is of empowering Someone Like You.
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That is in the neighborhood or two or three of them.
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And gathering that data because you know who?
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Who are the violators?
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Creating a map.
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These are the houses.
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These are the rentals that you have issues with.
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You know each house so that.
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That map.
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Because that information is really key for each.
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Neighborhood umm.
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And then when we come to vote on this in two weeks.
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Prior to that meeting, we have that so you can show us.
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This is our plan.
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East, I don't think I need a 75% threshold. Yeah, well.
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You know what I mean? I I just need a.
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Especially if it's overrun, because I believe both of those communities are overrun with LLC. Wood is suggesting that we might
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want to get 75% of those of those owners who actually live the land ownership who actually reside there.
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So and that that seems like that might be doable, but what I what I love about the onus of being it on.
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That leader is.
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He's going around talking, hey.
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This is a negotiation of that neighborhood, right?
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This is what we want.
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Making, you know, empowering the community to come and say this is where we're at, and then we can give that.
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Plan that that map that you've made.
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And saying hey.
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Do we agree to this And then?
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Two weeks from now, making sure everyone knows hey.
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Come and speak to the plan.
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I don't mind supporting without just.
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Especially even if the community was overrun with rentals and we were under 50.
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Just because.
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You're getting people moving out.
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Vineyard because of the problem.
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You know in your.
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You're having just such neighborhood problems.
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Yeah. So, and that's where I mean, I don't know.
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I don't know if there's a right number or percentage of support to get I don't need.
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I think it's just like and especially in two weeks that's that's going to take or whenever the plan, whenever they're ready for
[58:03]
the plan, right. Yeah, no. And I think we could be ready to.
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To have something to vote on in two weeks and then we could kind of start a progressive implementation timeline where you know, we
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we passed a resolution, but then we wouldn't necessarily start enforcement until like June.
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So that would give people plenty of time. We'd get a media campaign out.
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But I would I just. I just know.
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How much?
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You know, so many families that have have literally moved out over this issue.
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And I know it's an issue and there's.
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A lot of families that.
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Would love to see it that aren't necessarily going to.
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You know.
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Participate in the process and and you know, of course we want to encourage that, but.
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I do think this is something that would be so beneficial and really capture all that low hanging fruit and then we could tweak it
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from there if we needed to do.
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More or less. I mean, we could kind of see.
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How this goes? But I definitely think.
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You'd get rid of.
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That one house that's causing 5 spaces to be taken up constantly when I think and I think not only in the map of when you're
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drawing, when you go and take a print off of that map.
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Identifying the home and saying there are.
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Like looking at overnight, there's 5.
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In this house or there's six vehicles.
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Because that helps us.
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You know, ascertain. Oh yeah, Holy cow. So.
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Talking about these seven houses.
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Can't put names on them who's doing it but.
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This is the home.
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I think that's critical to.
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Making a decision, there's, I mean, there's when we had our like little meeting in the neighborhood, there was.
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Definitely other areas that people in Schemat.
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Nicole and I don't know about that. We like.
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Oh yeah, this house is a problem in this one. This one's a problem in these couple blocks. So I guess who would I get that
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information to so I can get some maps that are good to be printable and start gathering data for you?
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I guess that's the Jacob wood has been the one that's led it. But I mean both of you guys are working together I guess on it. I
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mean the wood would be good but not here today but.
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But I also think that.
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Yeah. What was I going to say about that?
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Just I think the the neighborhood.
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Captains or whatever that are organizing it.
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Knowing that you're.
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You got to own your data like what? I want to make sure right? My big thing too is like.
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I want to make sure that the neighborhood, that the families in the neighborhood are bought in so that way they know.
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They're aware of what's coming. They can share it with other neighbors.
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And if.
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Set up as best as possible. It's going to reduce that blowback that we're going to get of like.
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And it's my private property.
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And.
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Am I allowed to call you that in City Council meeting?
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OK. All right.
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I think it would be very important on social media or even just working with staff to.
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Put a flyer on every door.
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Empower who that leader is.
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To say hey.
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Over the next week, I'm studying this out.
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The Lechemina.
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And uh.
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Bridgeport neighborhood.
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We're gathering information.
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So that they empower that leader to.
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Talk to him.
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You know, hey, get, we're trying to, we're trying to have a neighborhood decision of what we're trying to do here.
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OK. So yeah, awesome.
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That'd be great.
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So maps wise then who do I?
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Do I reach out to Councilman if you can even turn in one map to the City Hall?
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Even, uh.
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Like Tony or or or David Kyle.
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They can make copies and I'm sure get them distributed to all of us, right? Does that work? Yeah.
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And also we have.
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If you send an e-mail to council, City Council, council at Vineyard Utah, council at.
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City Council? Is that City Council? Look up what our e-mail is. yeahcitycouncil@vineyardutah.gov goes to all of us, OK?
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Yeah, City Council just get access because yeah, I mean, if you have.
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Maps data, or if there's map data that can just do on Google and I can just, if that's good enough and I could just print that,
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you've got a good map, right? Yeah.
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And sorry, I didn't know that's Google.
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Said I was going to keep this short and hopefully the work session next week.
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Could we just pull some of the parking study data cache from the?
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This study I know we had a lot of these neighborhoods looked at.
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But I mean the neighborhoods I listed, I mean that's close to.
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I'd say that's like 80% of all the.
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Public St.
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Neighborhoods that we have in the city and so.
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I'd be supportive of putting this on the public streets for.
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The neighborhoods in general, but.
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I'd also be happy to keep it to these.
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Just to start implementing a good study, I think it would.
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Kind of where I'm at with yeah, we should.
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Go, Jake. Go ahead, Jake, please. Yeah, Go ahead, Jacob.
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Yeah, no, sorry.
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I mean, I think we should target it first. I mean looking at the numbers, but I really appreciate Maria in cash. We've been
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working with you guys and asking for more data.
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On where and what Pacific neighborhoods are.
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Dealing with the problems and yeah, Bridgeport #1 la Shawn may #2 in Providence.
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And my only issue if the.
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City parking pass.
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Is the fact that it's not a.
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Root constitution, if that makes sense.
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Like at the end of the day.
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The way to.
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Don't have to remove the people.
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From these houses, right?
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Providence of the city parking pass.
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We had 12 confirmed complaints last year.
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All right.
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So it's just my point is while we implement this.
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We also needed working on.
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Ways to strengthen our current code enforcement to.
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Actually removed.
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These people from.
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These properties.
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Yeah, I'm definitely committed to that, I think.
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This budget cycle, that's something I definitely want to advocate for is adding.
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More code enforcement.
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Been talking to Holden about how we could.
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Structure that that's something I ran on, as well as having a more robust code enforcement so we can.
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Handle this long term.
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But I'd love to.
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Give these families, a lot of them showed up.
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To the meeting to just ask for that relief. They've been dealing this with this issue for years and years. So I'm with you I I
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think that would be great. Yeah. I think that I think that we start with the ones that are like horrendous. I drove through
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Bridgeport and lechement I mean it's just.
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There's challenges beyond challenges there.
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Gardens isn't too far behind, but it's like.
[1:04:15]
I look at like the Cottonwoods. I'd like to make sure that the neighborhoods feel good about that. Some of the.
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That's one that I haven't heard from. So yeah, there isn't like super bad, but they want something so just.
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You know, kind of.
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Start.
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The low hanging fruit is, you know, like I said, it seems to be Bridgeport, the Shannon Gardens.
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And then just make sure that we have good neighbor buying as we kind of go down there just to make sure everyone's aligned. So we
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all kind of just touched on the.
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Keeping it a little bit more targeted in scope, especially as it starts, I think that's important. I would also consider looking
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at.
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What the current city code requires for parking and rentals.
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And the reason I bring that up is because I know.
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To rent an Adu.
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You are required by city code.
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To provide additional parking spaces on the property that are not street parking, just one. So that's another aspect I think it
[1:05:05]
too. It's actually only a total of 4 parking stalls according to state law.
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Oh really? Discrepancy between state and city code? Ah, curious so that that's the.
[1:05:17]
The loop.
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So let's also pass that city code back to.
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Tandem parking and whatever. Yeah, OK, microphone.
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And then, you know, Jacob, would you, you shared that this wasn't addressing a root cause, but I would like to posit an economic
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concept real quick that you get more of what you incentivize or disincentivize. And if we disincentivize.
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Over occupancy. By enforcing parking you actually will see a reduction in over occupancy because then it becomes expensive to be
[1:05:43]
over occupied.
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Yeah, yeah. Sorry, Jeff Harmon, I'm just mentioning the data I got about Providence. Providence.
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Yeah, issue the city parking cost I believe in 2022, right?
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And still this is 2026. New staff complaints about over occupancy.
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So I just hope that when we do this.
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They don't say oh.
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We solved over occupancy. It's done.
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This is just.
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A temporary.
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Banned them, doesn't adjust the root.
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And get these people.
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Out of the properties, yeah.
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Go ahead, Sir. OK, Jeff Harmon with the gardens.
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Actually, it's the garden.
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Like the garden, yeah, One of those things, yeah, we were, we were looking into this like, you know.
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You know multi.
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You know, families living in a single family unit and.
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All that stuff and now the parking and when I was.
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Bouncing between like state and city code.
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The discrepancy isn't major, but it you know, they define tandem park in the same or whatever, but it's like it's either state or
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city. It's like 1 is 4.
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Parking spots. One is 5 parking spots, so there probably does need to be a true up.
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With some of that just to make sure that some consistency there.
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Yeah, that's all I was really saying. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome, Tony. For the record, it is the garden. Let's make sure
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that that's noted.
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OK, awesome.
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We're going to jump to the next thing here on the agenda.
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I had. I'm just going to have.
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I had a statement on the tough. I'm just going to give that to Tony. Can we just put this in the record?
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So we can.
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It's getting a little late.
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Want me to read it out loud? Should I read it real quick? Read it all right? Be a mayor.
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OK, sounds good. I just wanted to I don't want to have it. The meeting called in 15 minutes when we got.
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Stuff to do. Here we go, Peach.
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Over the past several days, our administration, the City Council been reviewing this transportation utility fee that was adopted
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by the.
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Previous administration, December of last year. So there's been a lot of discussion about this.
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Online and it has caused us a lot of.
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Frustration and so forth.
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So while funding transportation infrastructure is critically, critically important, the structure of this fee has raised serious
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concerns about the impact on Vineyard residents, especially our business community.
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Some businesses have reported charges approaching $5000 per month.
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Which creates a significant burden and sends the wrong message.
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To the companies considering coming and investing in our city.
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Because of these concerns, the Asian Order, effective immediately, to suspend all penalties, fines and enforcement actions related
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to the.
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The transportation utility feed the tough.
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While we conduct.
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A full review of the program.
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We're working with the Public Works Director, St. Engineers, Finance directors, evaluating the methodology behind the fee. Is
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financial assumptions economic?
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Implications and broader city budgets so we can determine the most responsible path forward and I wanted.
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Shout out the staff thing, they've been so helpful on this.
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And Parker as well, has been.
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Really digging digging into it as well.
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The goal of this administration and council is simple. It's to maintain an infrastructure while ensuring.
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Vineyard remains a competitive.
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Business friendly community for families, employers and future investment.
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We'll continue.
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To keep the Council and public informed as this review.
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Moves forward.
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So we're.
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Moving forward on trying to get this.
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With all haste but.
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Like I said, we've suspended the.
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The late penalties and fines and enforcement actions related to it so.
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So we will continue spending the the fines and so forth. Are you spending the tough as well We.
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We need to. We are working.
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So that's a no.
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Know as of right now, but we've got to we're working.
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Very, with all haste to figure out.
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Do we expect a couple weeks to figure that out?
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We kind of have a deadline. We.
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Goal obvious, yeah.
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Your statement.
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I think just said that you.
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Are issuing the order to also halt collection.
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But if you're also halting the fees and fines, there's no enforcement mechanism to paying the bill.
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Yes. So subsequently.
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There's no collection of the.
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There could be a retroactive action, though, when you come back at it. So I just want to make sure we're clear about that. Yeah,
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we're looking at all those things. So go ahead, Evan, please.
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Yeah. As far as timing, I, I think that we want to have that for next council to vote on, right. So we're we're working on it.
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Planning to get that done as quick as we can.
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For sure. Thanks a couple times.
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Awesome.
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All right, let's move over to the consent items.
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Is there let's.
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Do any anyone opposed to these consent items or want to adjust them?
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I move to approve the consent items as presented 6.1 and 6.2.
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For the.
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People in the audience these consent items are.
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The City Council meeting minutes from February 10th and February 24th.
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Thank you for making those changes. Appreciate that.
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Awesome.
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Do I have a second?
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2nd.
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All in favor.
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Hi, OK.
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Anyone good? OK.
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All righty, let's do.
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Let's jump to the business items. We'll do the appointments last. That's OK. Let's jump to the Arts Commission. Let's do 8.1.
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Arch Commission wrap tax grants.
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Resolution.
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Do we have any discussion on that?
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Yeah, OK, awesome.
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Yeah, I was just going to ask if we could put it on the.
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On screen. Can you pass that to Tony?
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Thank you, Sir.
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Awesome. I'm here representing the arch committee. Could you state your name, please? Oh, Jeremy said. Well, the garden.
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Neighborhood.
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So what we've done in ours is we represent arts, culture.
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Or arts, rec culture and heritage, and we have different people on the committee appointed to those areas.
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Elizabeth Shelley is over arts Daniel George is over at Rec.
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Bronzatin is over culture and Sherry Kay.
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You are here is over the Heritage committee and so.
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Our goal is to.
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Choose what to do with those wrap tax funds that are available for us.
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And so we had a system to go to the next slide.
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Dash.
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I hope it's more than one.
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Oh, is there one? Is there one before this?
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No.
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That was it, OK.
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That's the way I wanted to talk about it.
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So these are the different people that applied. We had the Vineyard library.
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And they were trying to get some more graphic novels and different reading materials.
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Or different kinds of reading materials to engage kids more Friends of the Vineyard Library.
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Similar.
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Initiative that they had.
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And they also wanted to increase story time at Vineyard Library to get a few more of those.
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To engage the kids in what they're doing. And they're already.
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Very popular.
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Carry On was a portable skate ramp for events.
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One of the residents was going to build a.
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Portable half pipe that could be set up at Vineyard days or stations at various parks.
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Heritage Foundation proposed building.
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A curriculum.
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4th grade.
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About.
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The history and heritage of Vineyard.
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Utah Valley Symphony was going to do a theme song. Utah Lake Foundation.
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Wanted to do a paddle event.
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From.
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Lehigh.
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Was it? Yeah.
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Thanks.
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Back to Vineyard.
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And then we had Atomic Athletics and Supplies for Better Future Foundation that had to do 1.
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Was a festival.
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Cultural festival and then Atomic Athletics was soccer.
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Next slide.
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So all of those were 501-C3's came to propose.
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Their initiatives and so we had a rubric.
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That ask certain questions like and would be rated on one to five. So how was this aligned with the Arch Commission?
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And Vineyard City, does the organization have the necessary infrastructure?
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How well does the project involve the community? Are there partnerships with?
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Organizations for the project. Our Vineyard citizens involved in it.
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Does this and then one of the questions was how long?
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Will be sustaining.
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Or how long will the impact last?
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And what would the ROI be on the project? So after running that through the 6th arch Commission members cash?
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The voting.
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Came out to be the Vineyard library.
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Which is the reading diversification.
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Vacation.
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Initiative. They asked for $3630 and had a total score of 187.
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Vineyard or Friends of the Vineyard Library asked for 2000 and they had a score of 180.
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Carry on was third. That was the portable skate ramp.
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And they asked for $14,500.
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But could also do partial funding. Heritage Foundation asked for 15,000 could also.
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Go forward with partial funding and then Utah Valley Symphony and Utah Lake found.
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Well, Utah Valley Symphony Ashford 2 grand for a theme song for a vineyard to be played at events and.
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Gatherings and the Utah Lake.
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Foundation.
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Paddle event. We were awarded 2500 dollars.
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So the ones that are grayed out are.
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Ones after discussing.
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We decided as an arch Commission not to award the funds.
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Two, and if we go to the next slide, I can kind of cover that.
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And can I ask you can ask questions. Yeah. I was like, I'm just rattling this off trying to help you pull the information I'm
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reading that I'm looking at the.
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Packet that was presented at the end of January.
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And there's changes to the scoring structure as well as.
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Obviously some of the allocations.
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I'm curious.
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Was someone added to the scoring? Because like on these, the overall scores, I mean capped at 156 and the highest was the Heritage
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Foundation in January?
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Now it's, you know, number four or five on your list.
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Down and the scores are in the one seventies, one 80s and higher. So I'm just curious what what changed in the scoring rubric and
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and how was that factored in?
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I think the libraries were the top ranked.
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Across the board.
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Okay.
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OK.
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There was a member who had not submitted their scores because they were out of town at that time.
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And so with that.
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Extra scoring that shifted the.
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Total.
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Points OK for that.
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And that was, I think that was 1 member.
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Who did that? And so that was.
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Shifted them slightly.
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Sorry, what was the other question?
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Did I cover it? Yeah, that's the the general. Just I was curious because the scores are.
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Difference. There's a different scale obviously then between the two of them and then that changed.
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I mean significant allocations of.
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This grant allotment.
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And where it's going.
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Yeah.
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Also, I've got another question. You mentioned just briefly that.
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The Heritage Foundation.
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Could move forward with partial funding.
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I read in the application that one of the reasons it was reduced to 0 is because.
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They would need the full funding to complete the project this year.
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Yeah, going back and forth with them. I mean, there's members of the Heritage Foundation here.
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They, well, I mean, I could go to that slide if we're all agreed on the.
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Vineyard Libraries.
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Jump the gun there, yeah.
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Yeah. So we, we on the Arts Commission feel really strongly about the Heritage Foundation and we love the initiatives.
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Part of the reasons after discussing.
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Because the skate ramp.
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Did end up scoring higher afterward.
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We were like, oh, we should give the skate ramp.
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Some of that.
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While we initially awarded the skate ramp about 6 grand to build.
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Like a halfpipe.
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And then after talking to legal and going back and forth with.
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Brian.
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And kind of looking at overall.
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Holistically, we're.
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We could keep the some of that money in the wrap tax and.
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Keep it going toward the larger skate park initiative.
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And hopefully getting that.
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$1,000,000 grant.
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Right.
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And so.
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And then we heard back from the Heritage Foundation that with the $7500 that we originally had said we'd like to award them.
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That they wouldn't be able to do the curriculum.
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With that and so we went back and said OK.
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There's also so a couple reasons that we said we can reduce that to 0 is.
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One of the things was a few of the members.
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Spouses are teachers.
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Some of them are 4th grade.
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And they said that.
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The likelihood that they would.
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Taken outside course like this and implement into the classroom.
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Was very low.
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And so we kind of looked at and said, well, maybe there's other ways that we can implement this foundation next year. We could
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award a higher amount to the Heritage Foundation.
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To do that.
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The other reasons were they also have a.
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Concurrent project.
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That is.
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Do I think in the next few months?
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And one of the things that they said they would do is have the curriculum ready by.
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August for the start of the school year. So we felt like that was a lot all of a sudden to be like, OK, finish the last project.
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That you were awarded, I think it was $16,000 from the previous year.
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That's still ongoing.
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And then the final reason.
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For the Heritage Foundation.
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Was the America 250. As part of that initiative, we are planning on creating a series of videos.
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Interviewing veterans.
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From Vineyard, getting the.
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Basis of.
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Or the history behind Geneva Steel and some of the early residents and so.
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By having those videos this year.
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That would build on the Heritage Foundation's curriculum for next year when they applied.
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I assume they'll apply again under similar circumstances.
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That was a lot, anyway.
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Thank you.
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Any other questions on this Continue the presentation, Yeah.
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Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
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If you go to SO just a word on the. I think I covered this.
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The skate park, but we decided not to fund that one despite the the higher score.
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And then the next was the Utah Valley Symphony.
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This.
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We thought was kind of.
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Thing and it's really a labor of love. The cost would be much more than $2000.
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And potentially we could get a lot of members of the Symphony kind of creating a a fanfare.
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For the city and.
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Jordan, one of our residents is.
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Is here.
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And has contributed a lot with to certain events, just getting groups together, brass and playing. And so we wanted to award them
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for that.
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And their contributions to events and city.
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And the final?
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Award was the Utah Lake Foundation they requested.
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$9000 for.
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A large event.
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We decided we didn't want to fund them to the fullest and we had a couple requests to tie that into Vineyard days and to make it
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go from AF to.
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Vineyard but.
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For safety and for wind.
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And various other reasons.
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We have to go.
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From vineyard to there. And so we awarded them.
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$1500 for the equipment and then $1000 for.
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The food.
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So that the.
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Oh, and it's for safety.
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Along the way as well.
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But we all feel passionate about Utah Lake and that's a part of the community. We want to see that be involved in more of Vineyard
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events and what we do.
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I think that's it, Gash. Is that the last slide? That's the last slide.
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Anyway, that's our recommendation to the Council.
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Thanks. Kash, would you bring back the slide that had the totals and what they were?
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Recommending uh.
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Thanks.
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Yeah.
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So I think that puts about.
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I can't remember what the total is, maybe 11 grand.
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Keeping it into the.
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Rap tax for.
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Skate park to.
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Get us closer to that.
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I think it's 509,870 is what I've got on the packet.
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But is that?
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The sound, well, that's the spend versus what he's saying would stay in the rap tax.
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You're talking about two sides of the same number.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So that there be about 11 grand.
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I think it's 11 grand.
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Left that would stay in the wrap tax that would.
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We would hope would be dedicated to the skate park.
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Grant.
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Then get there sooner.
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So that we could move forward with that build.
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There seems to be a lot of interest in.
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In that park.
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Hey Brian, I can see you on Tony's computer. Are you listening in?
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You got the nod to your Yeah, I got a nod from you.
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Hey, out of curiosity, what's the?
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Actual amount of funding.
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To match the grant for the skate park right now available in the wrap tax. Do you know?
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We have.
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510,000.
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$139.16.
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And I'm sure that that includes the $11,000 because it hasn't been taken and appropriated anywhere yet, correct?
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9870 so you don't need it.
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Yeah, to me it sounds like you don't.
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Need it then for that project because it already has the funds to cover it. You're also generating roughly what, 30 grand a month
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into the rap tax from sales tax? Or 25 grand I can't remember off the top of my head.
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But but what I'm getting at is.
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Why? What's the recommendation of the purpose behind not using the full 20,000 then if we already have the funds allocated?
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In the RAP tax to meet the grant requirement.
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Oh yeah, my understanding that we were short of.
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Of that, I thought we were in the floor. It's for the total.
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Because it's like one point.
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I can speak to that as well.
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Please, Brian.
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Thanks.
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Yes, so.
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With the skate park grant the total cost.
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Is going to come to.
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We'll talk about this in the next.
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Business item but the overall cost for the skate park with all of the.
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Added parking, landscaping, restroom, facility, all of that. It's going to come to about 1.2 or $1.3 million right around that
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ballpark.
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And so essentially with the wrap tax.
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Fund that we currently have, it won't.
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Cover.
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The entire project, so we would need to allocate.
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Future wrap tax funds to this.
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So yes, using some of this.
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Rap tax fund.
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To go towards the arts grant, it does reduce the amount of money we have to go towards the skate park.
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But if that is something that City Council.
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Values.
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We can definitely go that route.
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I'm curious too. We talked.
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Previously about this in an e-mail this week when I expressed my support for the skate park.
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But it was.
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Looking at the possibility of how do we phase the skate park?
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Construction so that.
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Knowing we're going to be 1.21 point 3,000,000 on that and it's.
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Not covered by the funds we currently have in the grant.
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How do we phase that in in such a way?
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That the incoming wrap tax is paying for it before the construction occurs.
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And it sounded like that was something that was very feasible. Is that accurate?
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Yes, that is accurate the full.
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How do we get the grant?
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That we move forward with the skate park project.
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Full build out wouldn't occur until.
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About June of 2027.
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So that gives us.
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Roughly 15 months.
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To continue to accrue tax.
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Response So if we.
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Continue to accrue about 20,000 a month.
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We will be just.
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Find and have all of that money.
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Secured before that park is.
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Is even done.
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With construction.
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Real quick and those.
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Is 20,000 how much we have leftover after our operational costs?
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Because I think some of the rec team.
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Funded by the RAP tax, Is that correct?
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I know we.
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Used to do that.
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Funded by the by the rap tax? No just.
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$20,000 a year.
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Up to this point, has typically been allocated by City Council for the Arch grant.
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Yeah, OK. And.
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I would be curious then to look at.
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Actually, let me ask this, what's the the timeline for the requirement for us to?
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Submit the the Arch Commission.
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Grant Awards.
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Is there a hard deadline that that has to be done by? I think, I think we just need to present to the council in March. I don't
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know if they is it a requiring approval in the bylaws.
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For March approval, I'm kind of looking at Brian cause.
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Yes, in the bylaws it does mention that we would disperse funding in March.
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So technically.
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We could wait two weeks.
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If if the Council wanted to wait to.
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Converse about this and make a decision then. But ideally if we could have a decision made by.
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I guess that would be the 24th of March. We would be just fine.
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The reason I ask is I'd be curious to see, you know, knowing that.
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We have.
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The funds available to start the project and have the funds available to.
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Pay for it overtime with the rap tax.
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What's the actual recommendation look like to use that $20,000 in grant I mean?
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Am I you guys on board with maybe looking at that?
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We could, we could revisit that as large Commission as well and say OK if.
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Knowing that.
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You know, with.
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The skate park wouldn't start for.
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15 more months, right and there would be adequate.
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Funds.
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By the time we're ready to go when that grant comes.
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I thought I thought the grant was.
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To be awarded.
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Within a.
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In the next couple months. And so it needed to be.
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That amount needed to be full.
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In order to get that, but maybe.
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Misremembering that, Brian, are you hearing that question?
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I'm not sure if I totally understood the question. Can you repeat well?
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I think a lot of these with the timing, it's like.
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We want to have these ready for summer, like with the library and.
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And so getting the prep, I think it's more a matter of just.
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Making sure we're getting the money out soon enough so people can.
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Prep for summer, right?
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OK, now you're talking about this though, and we're talking about the skate park build out over the next 15 months.
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And yeah, when when is the grant application due for the skate park?
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I thought we'd turn that in already. The application is due on Friday of this week.
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OK, so we don't need to have.
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We don't need to have it fully funded at that time, just at the time.
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OK. All right. Just the commitment for the sons, I think.
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Arch Commission meets.
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Arch Commission, I believe meets next week and so we could look at that and say, hey, how do we want to?
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Knowing that.
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The skate park's taken care of.
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Do we want to put that funding into the Heritage Foundation or?
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Put that up in other ways and we can discuss with the Heritage Foundation.
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With that funding, what is a feasible?
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Timeline and deliverable for that.
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If that's what the Council would like.
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Are you guys good at that? That's what I would like to see happen.
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Mayor, I would move that we would continue this item for the until two weeks from now, our next regularly scheduled meeting.
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Emotional guidance I would Before you make a motion, I wanted to make a comment. I was able to go speak.
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The mayor had me go meet with the 2.
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Principles from the.
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Both the elementary schools here.
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Miss Belletti is fantastic. Giovanni.
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Was way cool as well.
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Both of them.
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Are like.
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First off, they didn't know we had a city library.
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So I was shocked at that. They had no clue.
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And they were so welcoming.
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Of.
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Us and we're like.
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Why aren't you using our library like?
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There, the doors are open.
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It's so big. We have so many books.
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We could make it bigger. How do we work together?
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And I described our library and where things are and they were like.
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How do we work together? Why don't they work with us?
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And I think the Council should look into that because.
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I don't know if we're really great at being in the education business of the city.
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I think our kids want to be educated and read but like.
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Listening to the two principles of like that is their profession.
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Listening to Timpanogos School District leadership, they went back and talked to the board as well.
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And, umm.
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The new school board obviously doesn't know a lot about that, so I think I'm a little bit concerned about the grants for the
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library.
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Not because we don't support.
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But.
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I see a bigger vision that the library could be so much bigger.
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In support and working together with those schools, that's the first thing. Awesome. So we got a motion here. Yeah, I got, I got a
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motion here. Will you repeat the motion?
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I move. We continue this item for two weeks to our next regularly scheduled meeting where we can.
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Again, discuss these issues.
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OK, do I have a second?
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Before we second it though, yeah, I second it.
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Wood Jacob would second it. Okay.
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All in favor.
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Aye.
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Aye, aye.
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Any news?
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Could we still hear from Sherry?
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Yes, let's do that. We'll continue that. Sherry's here. Let's come. You want to come up and Sherry, Kate?
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She good.
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Yeah, yeah. I just had a couple.
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Like, yeah, I just had a couple questions on.
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Emotions on motion The motion Motion that we motioned.
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So hold on till the motion passes. So we'll continue this till neck for two weeks. That passed. OK Sherry Kay, please.
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Are you asking me questions? Yes, I had. I just, I just heard you.
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Things that I couldn't hear anything you were saying.
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From up here but.
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I just wanted to get a better idea of the the Heritage Foundation and what.
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What would be helpful if we could?
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Find a way to partially support. How was the $6000 original award going to be used and.
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And just get your thoughts on that, see if we could try to. What I would really love to do is.
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Talk to Jerem privately. We could do this because there's things that.
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Were set in that meeting that were not accurate.
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As far as the fund, like the money that's been spent?
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Like what I would like to tell you is that it's.
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Took a while to get 7 estimates.
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And get approvals and things like that. We, we are under, we are ready for the sign. The sign is.
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Ready for to go?
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So the fact that you were questioning that we hadn't spent the money.
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That that would complicate it is.
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Not accurate.
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OK. And the fact that when I.
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Thought that we had the 7500 because that was originally.
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Was the decision.
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I already.
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We already kind of started talking with the principals and stuff, so anyway, I guess.
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And Jeremy didn't know that because I wasn't at the meeting. I couldn't.
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Talk. And they didn't know that that was.
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That had happened so.
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They they brought that up to me and I.
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They were excited about it.
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The curriculum.
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Well, Ben Johnson, like I said, the UVU, he is in history and education, he is already.
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Kind of has a plan.
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For curriculum development with students that he's working with on campus.
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And he's already talked to Giovanni. They're, they're very good friends. Anyway, I guess that's what the Heritage Commission did
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not know at the last meeting when I wasn't there.
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Thank you. So, so 7500 would be helpful and you'd still be able to.
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Kind of continue, maybe not for this year, but next year.
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Develop curriculum or something I.
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I mean.
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Or maybe outside grants?
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With the help of the student at UVU, I think we could probably.
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Bring it in for a lower number.
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I mean, $7500 is the money that when I went to Ben Johnson and we met, he was like.
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We can do this. So that was.
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Anyway.
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Thank you any.
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Questions.
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No, that's helpful. OK.
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Thank you.
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OK, so.
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And it is 9870 that we have.
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For the skate park right now, because this is.
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10 and some change.
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OK. Thank you.
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OK, thank you. Let's jump to 8.2 Vineyard Skate Park budget allocation.
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Brian, would you like to introduce this item 8.2 real quick?
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Yes, you bet. Thank you.
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Yes. So the purpose of this?
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Resolution is just to identify the intent.
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Of the City Council.
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The pending we receive.
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A $500,000 grant from the Utah.
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Outdoor recreation.
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Division.
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That City Council is open to allocating our current.
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Rap tax fund.
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As well as incoming rap tax funds.
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To a specific amount.
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To cover the expenses, to ensure we can build that skate park.
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Pending we received that award.
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Brian, you shared in an e-mail this week your three different.
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Courses of action or plans, AB and C, would you maybe just briefly go over those for the people that are listening?
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Yes, absolutely.
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So with the you are grant there are two different.
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Grant options that we could go for.
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For this skate park.
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The first one is we could go after the regional asset.
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Application.
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That would allow us to get.
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500,000 and $1.00 to $1 million.
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And the other option would be we do a Tier 1.
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Which we request up to $500,000.
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We're planning to apply for the regional asset.
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Just because that allows us to potentially get.
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More funding to build out the park.
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So we kind of have three options.
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Plan A is that we.
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Include.
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Everything with the skate park.
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All the landscaping.
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Added parking lot.
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With the restroom facility.
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That would mean that the total overall project cost would be.
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1,372,000.
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$211.78.
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Which means because this grant is a 5050 match, we would.
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Pay for half of that.
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And you work would pay the other half.
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Our Plan B.
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Would be that we take out the restroom facility.
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Which is projected to be about $150,000.
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So that would bring the total cost.
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Let's see each.
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Us and you work would each need to pay 611,000.
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$105.89.
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And then plan C is if we don't get awarded.
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Umm for the regional asset we do have the option to get tier one which is the up to 500,000.
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If that was all we were able to get.
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We would not include a restroom facility.
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And we would need to pay $722,211.78.
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I know that's kind of a lot. I apologize that I'm out of town at a conference today. I appreciate.
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Tony allowing me to jump in on this.
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Any other questions you have with that? Yeah. Can I ask about your Plan A just because of the way it was presented here, maybe I
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got confused and I want to make sure nobody else is confused too. So you said it was?
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372 million.
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At a 5050 grant.
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Now in that that tier one plan a thing.
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Does that mean that we would be actually 5050 splitting the one point?
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You know, 4 million or is it still just A500500 and the rap tax is paying for the remainder?
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372,000.
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Let's see for the 1.372 million.
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That you just said that would be a 5050 match, so the city, we would be responsible for just paying half of that amount. So the
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687 hundred 1105 and $0.89.
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OK, Thank you. Do you have to select which which one you're applying for or is it like a tier where we can?
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Apply for the regional one and if we don't get it, we can still apply for the Tier 1.
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Or we could downgrade our application with this.
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The later often that you just said we apply for the regional and then on the application it asks if we don't get funding, do we
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want to be considered for Tier 1.
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And that's where I put yes, so that we can be considered for both options.
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OK.
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I think we already kind of went over.
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Mathematically, uh.
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The money that we have in the wrap tax currently and the time.
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Over the course of the build.
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Generates enough revenue to still pay for the full.
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Plan a tier one option.
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But then you are committed to using the RAP tax for that.
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For the course of the next year.
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I, oh, keep going.
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Oh, I was just going to ask. So in the in the staffing plan I mentioned we'd have to set aside general fund just as part of the
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application.
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Could we do?
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Essentially a loan to the rap tax where we.
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We'd loan that out, then pay the general fund back.
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Just so is is there a requirement that we have those kind of?
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Funds in hand as we apply for it or no, You just have to write it into the grant, I believe. I don't think you have to move money
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into. That's just.
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Yeah, that's just what the staff report kind of sounded like. So.
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Yes, our application would be stronger if we have all of the money up front.
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But I did verify it with the Rep that he said.
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City Council is willing to.
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Commit with the intention to give RAP tax funds that they're OK with that.
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Right.
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I'd prefer to have the stronger application if we can show that we've got the funds without.
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Yeah, whatever, Whatever makes our application stronger if we get the tier.
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Forget the regional one, we payless money at the end of the day so.
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We need the tax from next year to meet that, that halfway mark. We don't. We don't have enough in that right now.
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I I don't agree with.
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Adding an outdoor.
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Bathroom. I don't.
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To the facility and the reason I don't think it enhances it.
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You have the bathroom right here at the City Council.
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It's open.
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You know, every day, 9:00 to 5:00.
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I don't I.
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In speaking with other.
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Parks, I called.
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And it will be a nuisance and it will be a.
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A collector and it's on a main Rd.
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And it will be.
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The neighbor.
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It's just an issue.
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And having him, the people that go there actually walk across the parking lot to go here isn't that big of a.
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Improvement, uh.
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You know of what? Of what's there?
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And.
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I just heard the.
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Public safety increase.
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With having.
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Having one there.
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And after.
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Listening to other cities.
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Provo removed theirs and closed and.
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They just advised against it.
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Due to issues and problems.
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Had you heard that before?
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I don't know.
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Not specifically about.
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The bathroom bathrooms that are parks tend to get issues.
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I think the only thing when Brian asked me about the bathroom issues.
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The only thing my concern was is.
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These bathrooms are like employees in the city are constantly using these bathrooms so they have an increase in flux. If if the
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skate park is as busy as successful as we want it to be, it may be a burden.
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On this facility, that was my yeah, I'm, I'm an advocate for the restroom. And look, we have restrooms in our parks.
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They're maintained, they're not in bad shape.
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Additionally, what time do people use the skate park, You know, in the evenings and stuff like that, especially in the summer,
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you're going to have people out there until 10:00 PM and then you're, you're barring them from using a bathroom. So you're going
[1:43:19]
to have a bunch of dudes just go pee on the tree behind the skate park. And that's not the good look because then you get this
[1:43:24]
house behind here that's going to be mad that they're seeing those kids go walk and pee in front of the.
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Their house, you know.
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I think it strengthens our application as a regional asset to to have the bathrooms and show it's great.
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This is a yeah. So what's been our experience with the restrooms we have in the parks right now? Well.
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Both Gammon Park and.
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And Grove Park.
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So we occasionally get graffiti. We've had some damage to them before in the past. I mean, that's typical of a facility like that.
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So we got the sheriff's right next door. Yeah. And I mean, we've had several cases of that. I wouldn't say it's like a constant
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problem. We've had several cases where we've had some damage and mostly it's graffiti. So people, kids paint and stuff on the
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walls.
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And I would imagine that that's as easy to resolve as just painting over it for very cheap.
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Yeah, our Parks Department has taken care of those issues. Any safety issues other than that, just graffiti. Well, I mean.
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So in Grove Park we have had some transient people using our restrooms, which we've had to take care of. I mean, obviously there's
[1:44:20]
a potential for drug use to happen in bathrooms.
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Quite often.
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Bathrooms all over the place, doesn't matter if other stars or Mavericks. And there is a potential for that, yes, Yeah.
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I I don't want to label people that go to skate parks as a type, but for whatever given reason they were like.
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I would advise both.
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Call. When I called I was like, oh wow.
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I'd be curious on those ones just.
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We can. Brainstorming is Yeah.
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Where were they located? Were they located right next to us? Right? We are right next door. So I just want.
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But maybe in the design of that got the sheriff's vehicles right outside of the I think you know where we put the the bathroom in
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relation to the the layout and I think and I think the facing of the door of going in and out and facing it towards the sheriff so
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we can see.
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Not that it's around the corner.
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That's one of the things that they said, that this is just, it's going to be a nuisance and the neighbors are going to complain.
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So OK any any discussion on further discussion on 8.2?
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No, hearing none, I will entertain a motion.
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I moved to adopt.
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Resolution 26-13 Allocating funds from the wrap tax.
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For the construction of the Vineyard Skate Park, contingent upon receipt of the 500,000.
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Utah Outdoor Recreation Grant Award.
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2nd.
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All righty, we'll do roll call on this one. Start over here with Ezra.
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Hi, David. Aye.
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Jacob Wood.
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See on what I.
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Jake Holdoy, aye.
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Parker, uh.
[1:45:54]
Hi awesome resolution passes.
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All righty Mayor Stratton, can I make?
[1:45:59]
Some clarification on that really quick please.
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Yep, after we voted. Come on, yes.
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Was that?
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Approving to.
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Allocate future rap tax funds or to do.
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The general fund and then have Raptac funds.
[1:46:20]
Make up the difference that comes from the general fund, just so I know what to put on the application.
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It's rap tax funds, is how this motion reads. Yeah.
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We're dedicating, yeah.
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We're dedicating the RAP tax fund.
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That means future wrapped expand. There was no general fund associated with this.
[1:46:37]
Yeah.
[1:46:38]
OK, awesome. Sounds good.
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OK.
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We're going to jump to 8.3 real quick.
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Public hearing about the development agreement of holdaway fields. We are.
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Actively chatting with these guys regarding.
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Fees so.
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If we could.
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If I could get a motion to continue this public hearing.
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It's also, it's not just holdaway fields, but it's also the Ford and intervals, yes. So we could get a motion for all three of
[1:47:06]
those for the next Councilman to continue the public hearing.
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4 hold away fields. The Forge in Intermountain Health.
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Until the City Council meeting on March 24th, 2026.
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Point of point of clarification on.
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Can we?
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Do we have to re notice?
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The hearing, I mean, what's the requirement because we have it posted on the agenda. The original notice that I sent out said we
[1:47:31]
would be discussing it at this meeting, but but all the applicants essentially said we're not ready.
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And so we posted it on this agenda saying that we are going to discuss this and now we have a motion to continue it so we no
[1:47:40]
longer have to re notice the item.
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Because we're continuing it, correct?
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Yeah, if we were to strike it from the record, then we would re notice and if you want us to or we're more than happy to send out
[1:47:51]
mailers again, but just making sure we're staying above the. Absolutely. Thank you.
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Kate, do I have a second to?
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The motion.
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I'll second it.
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Awesome.
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All in favor.
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Aye.
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All right, OK, awesome motion passes.
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Oh, Councilmember Wood.
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How did you vote? I still have to vote even though you're on the phone. Yeah, right. OK, so now we're going to jump back to the
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appointment.
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And that is the last thing on the agenda.
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So how do we?
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Do we?
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How do we do this? Is this a motion to appoint?
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And then?
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Does.
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You could just do it as a.
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Blanket just motion to approve your appointments.
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OK.
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Let's do it. I think that let's let's do 1 by 1 if is that OK?
[1:48:51]
And then let me grab. I saw their names here.
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While you do that, I'd like to make.
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Mayor, just make.
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Some comments.
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I.
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Joyfully endorse all three.
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They're great.
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Or they'll do wonderful.
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And while we're waiting, you can.
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Say now, but I thought I'd say that, OK, we're not waiting anymore, let's do this.
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Motion. Let's do motion this one first, then we'll vote. Let's do 1 by 1. Yep. I think it would be most correct if you present
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them. OK, I think you're stand up, send them to the council. Yeah. Do you guys want to? Yeah. All right. No, that is that is a
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very good.
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Do you want to start with 7?
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So let's start with legal counsel. So I present to the Council, Jesse.
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Get this name right.
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Jesse Riddle.
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To serve as our.
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City Attorney.
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I does anyone want to say do we motion that or does he just?
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Present them as an appointment and we vote.
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I make a motion to approve.
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The appointment of legal.
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City Attorney.
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Jesse Riddle.
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OK. Do we have a second for that second?
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OK, let's do a roll call on this one, Jacob Wood.
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Aye, Parker.
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I Jake Holdaway, aye.
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David Lurie.
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I and Ezra.
[1:50:29]
No, OK.
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Motion passes.
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All righty. Next we have Evan Smith. I present Evan Smith.
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To serve as our City Finance Director.
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Do I can I get a motion on that?
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So moved OK.
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Do I have a second? Do we need to specify Aye, Tony, or can he say so? Moved. OK, All right.
[1:50:54]
Let's do roll call on this one as well. We'll start with Ezra this time. Ezra.
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Aye, David.
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Jacob Aye.
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Jacob.
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Right. OK, There was a point of clarification that we never made.
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Jacob refers to Jacob Wood. Yes, Jake is Jake Holder. That is correct. We voted for that. Thank you for changing my name. The
[1:51:11]
Giver to me by my mother. Awesome.
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OK, Motion.
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Carries.
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Last, I present Robin.
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Rainey's bond. How do I is it Raines?
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Rings. Sorry I went to Orem high.
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Not Mountain View, OK.
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So, Robin Bond, that's hard.
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Do you go by Rains Vaughn the whole time?
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I'm usually from funds Robin bond OK, I.
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Present Robin Bond.
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To serve as our city recorder.
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Do I have a second?
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Some, yeah.
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I'll second that motion. OK, awesome.
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OK, awesome.
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Let's do roll call as well. So let's start with Parker I.
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Jake I.
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Jacob.
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Aye, David.
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I and Ezra I.
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OK, motion passes.
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Awesome.
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Now we got this. Do we do the swearing in?
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Do we adjourn and do the swearing in or do we do?
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Swearing in then adjourn.
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Swear in first. That's what I thought. OK.
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All righty, let's swear everybody in Jesse is not here tonight.
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But we.
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I assume we need to have OK, he's he can do.
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All right, sounds good.
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All right, so.
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Can you do it online? Let's do Robin.
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Bring his picture up, maybe. Yeah, right. Do we stand up by the thing? Yeah. Come on down. Let's. Do you have something you
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actually say?
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OK, we'll do Jesse when he is available in person. Sounds good. We'll do Jesse's when he's available in person.
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OK, Robin.
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Let's do this.
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Stand up there by the front, front and center at the mic.
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So do I do this or who does this?
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Tony does it. Hey, All right.
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Don't mess it up.
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You need to read that, why don't you?
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The water pressure, Tony. Oh.
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All right.
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Here we go.
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Stick it in. I'm Robin Reece one.
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Having been appointed as the city recorder.
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Do you solemnly swear?
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But I will support obey.
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But I will support obey.
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Constitution.
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And the constitution of the State.
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Discharge.
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Discharge the duties of my office with fidelity.
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The duties of my office.
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All right, next.
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Evan Smith.
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Come on down, Evan.
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Yes.
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Robin is at Bo India.
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All right.
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Having been appointed as the finance director. Having been appointed as the finance director, solemnly swear.
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Psalms were but I will support the bank defend.
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That will support, obey and.
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The Constitution.
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And the constitution of the state of.
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Discharge.
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Discharge the ease of my office with fidelity.
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Duties.
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And Jesse when he gets.
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Better, yes. Everyone needs backers to say so.
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OK, great. Yeah.
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OK.
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All righty guys.
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With that, we will.
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Adjourn.
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Thank you.
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Doesn't count if you don't hit the mallet. That's right.