[0:00] All

[0:01] right, you're good to go.

[0:05] » Welcome everyone to the TW Valley Rural

[0:08] Planning Organization

[0:10] meeting.

[0:12] It's March 9th, 2026.

[0:15] The time is a bit after 1:30

[0:18] and I appreciate those who have been

[0:21] able to make it in person as well as

[0:23] those who have joined us online and like

[0:27] to start with uh going around the room

[0:31] with introductions and then we'll uh go

[0:35] online uh for

[0:38] give everyone online a chance to

[0:41] introduce themselves as well. So I'm

[0:44] Wayne Benion uh with the Wasach Front

[0:47] Regional Council.

[0:49] » I'm Andy Welch from the Tula County

[0:51] Manager.

[0:52] » Britney Lopez, assistant county manager.

[0:55] » Jim Clark with BIA Consulting.

[0:58] » Zer with Jeff H2 Planning.

[1:03] » I'm Bill. with

[1:12] » District.

[1:27] » Thank you. Uh let's go. Granted, Matt

[1:31] and Dan online.

[1:34] Barnsworth with UD do.

[1:38] » Hi, this is Matt Gray with UTA Planning.

[1:43] » I'm Dan Fckner with Jones and Nell here

[1:46] representing Lake Point City.

[1:49] » And I'm not able to see uh who else is

[1:52] online except [clears throat]

[1:53] » You have Mayor Manzion.

[1:55] » Mayor Manzion. I'm here

[1:59] » And Paul and Paul Hansen to city

[2:02] » And you have Madison from WRC

[2:05] » And then Madison

[2:06] » Madison local administrative adviser

[2:09] WRC. Thank you.

[2:12] » Anybody else?

[2:13] » Uh did you get Andrea?

[2:15] » No.

[2:16] » And Rosie.

[2:18] » Andrea Moser and Rosie.

[2:22] » Yes. community advis

[2:26] community outreach specialist with WFRC

[2:29] » And Andrea Mosorth with Bow West. I'm

[2:31] working on the UDOT long-range plan.

[2:34] » Thank you, Andrea.

[2:36] Well, welcome everyone.

[2:41] Ask for any comments

[2:44] uh on the December 8th meeting minutes.

[2:51] And if no comments, we'll ask for a

[2:54] motion.

[2:55] » Second move.

[2:56] » Motion from Andy.

[3:00] Any second?

[3:04] » Thank you, Council Member.

[3:08] » All right. All in favor?

[3:11] » I

[3:14] Any opposed?

[3:17] That looks and approved.

[3:23] All right. Um,

[3:26] some of you are aware, uh, Reaper 2 has

[3:30] a new traffic operations engineer,

[3:33] Graham Farnsworth, and we'll turn the

[3:35] time to him, um, uh, to talk a bit about

[3:39] the, uh, next item, which is 12

[3:44] congestion mitigation air quality

[3:46] applications.

[3:48] And I'll just note that uh we'll be

[3:52] looking for discussion and potentially a

[3:55] motion for the RPO whether the RPO

[3:58] should recommend

[4:00] uh a couple of uh projects for CMAC

[4:04] funding. Uh approval action would then

[4:08] be taken by region two and uh the state

[4:11] transportation

[4:13] commission um down the road. But today

[4:15] we're just looking for um discussion and

[4:20] uh

[4:21] action on a on a recommendation. With

[4:24] that, Brad.

[4:35] » Um it doesn't look like he's on Oh,

[4:37] there he is.

[4:43] » He's muted. He's talking so will you

[4:45] tell him.

[4:46] » Sorry. Thanks. I'm Looks like I'm not

[4:48] able to share. This is the table that

[4:51] you sent me, Wayne. Right.

[4:53] » I can share it.

[4:55] » That'd be great.

[5:03] » Sorry, just one sec. One moment.

[5:18] Okay. So, he's good now.

[5:20] » All right. We can all see that table,

[5:23] right?

[5:24] » Perfect.

[5:26] So, um we have two applications, one

[5:29] from Lake Point and one from Erda, uh

[5:32] that provide cost estimates and gone

[5:34] through the um process to receive um

[5:38] congestion mitigation air quality funds

[5:41] and all of these have have passed the

[5:44] requirements that we've put forth. The

[5:46] first is providing uh go through with

[5:49] erda has two segments. Um one first

[5:53] along church road and that connects to

[5:56] the rabbit lane and then also continues

[5:59] its way to debates canyon pathway. Um

[6:02] where this will be an asphalt path

[6:04] extension as it's talked about here

[6:06] that'll connect to the junior high also

[6:08] the high school and Rose Springs

[6:11] Elementary School. So it's um reaching

[6:15] kind of these last critical segments

[6:16] into some neighborhood segments but also

[6:19] making those connections especially to

[6:20] the junior high. Um this total cost has

[6:24] been provided and estimated uh by Erdan

[6:28] and uh engineer and due to those um

[6:31] people walking and to be able to get to

[6:34] the junior high the emissions that would

[6:36] be saved are 75 kgs as demonstrated and

[6:41] it's above the benefit cost ratio needed

[6:45] to to be able to be funded.

[6:48] The second um first of all I guess I'll

[6:51] pause here. Any any questions about this

[6:53] pathway or this project?

[7:02] » Not seeing any.

[7:05] » All right, I'll keep going. Uh the next

[7:08] one is from Lake Point and this is for

[7:11] Saddleback Boulevard and it extends from

[7:15] um SR36

[7:18] um out to an existing I don't have the

[7:21] uh existing sidewalk that's already out

[7:24] there um to a roundabout to the east um

[7:28] connects into the neighborhoods and a

[7:30] UTA bus stop that will be on SR36

[7:33] providing that first and last mile

[7:35] connection And

[7:38] sorry, I'm just quickly looking up for

[7:39] that Sunset Road. There we go. On the

[7:42] north side of Saddleback Boulevard. Um,

[7:46] so being able to provide again another

[7:48] asphalt path that will be able to

[7:50] provide people um with a way to connect

[7:53] into a a transit option. Um the cost

[7:57] that's been estimated is $300,000

[8:00] um with the local match of $20,000

[8:03] and reducing emissions from those people

[8:05] that are walking to provide that or

[8:08] riding their bike to the bus stop. Um

[8:12] and provides the daily emissions

[8:14] reduction and a benefit to um

[8:19] qualified to be met for this funds.

[8:24] Are there any questions about this

[8:25] project?

[8:28] » Any questions online?

[8:34] » Sorry, got to get out of that screen.

[8:37] No questions that I can see.

[8:42] Thank you also for those that have

[8:44] applied to these funds. Appreciate the

[8:47] work that they've done and helping. Uh

[8:49] we we're always excited to see

[8:51] applications for um different options

[8:54] and so feel free to reach out to us or

[8:56] Wayne and myself if you have questions

[8:58] about potential projects that might

[9:00] qualify for this.

[9:03] » Thank you, Grant. Appreciate that.

[9:05] With that uh information, I'd look for a

[9:10] motion to recommend uh approval of these

[9:15] um two uh projects.

[9:20] » So moved.

[9:25] » Motion from Council Chair Burch.

[9:30] Any second?

[9:31] » Okay.

[9:34] » Great.

[9:35] Uh

[9:38] any discussion guys?

[9:41] All right. Um well uh with that we'll

[9:47] ask for a vote.

[9:49] All in favor? I

[9:52] » Any

[9:55] all right those will Dan recommended to

[9:59] region two and

[10:03] » Will be in touch with

[10:07] » Lake point in order to help

[10:11] proceed through next steps of the

[10:14] process.

[10:15] Thank you Grant.

[10:18] All right. Um,

[10:21] we have anybody from Eura with us?

[10:29] » Council Chair Burch.

[10:30] » Yes.

[10:31] » Are you planning on talking to the

[10:33] transportation transportation plan or

[10:37] was that um not your anticipation?

[10:41] » I don't know.

[10:45] Uh well, if there's anything you'd like

[10:49] to say about it, feel free. Um I had

[10:53] been in conversation or communication

[10:56] with uh one of the council and

[11:00] had understood, but maybe I

[11:02] misunderstood that they were going to

[11:05] talk a bit about u transportation. But

[11:11] » Someone else on my council,

[11:12] » Correct? Correct.

[11:14] » That's also

[11:16] » Correct.

[11:17] » My favorite council members.

[11:20] » Okay.

[11:21] » So,

[11:22] » Next time

[11:23] » Uh

[11:24] » No, I'm not prepared to talk.

[11:27] » What do you want to know?

[11:28] » That is just fine. Um

[11:32] will have just as much opportunity to

[11:34] provide input on the update to the 12

[11:37] valley plan. I just uh between last

[11:41] meeting and this meeting is trying to

[11:43] give each community the opportunity to

[11:47] uh share about their uh community's

[11:51] transport protection plan.

[11:52] » Okay. Well, I assume you spoke with

[11:54] someone on my perhaps on my roads

[11:56] department, roads committee. So, uh

[11:58] maybe tell me who it is later so I can

[12:00] follow up. I did.

[12:02] » No worries. Um I think we'll uh proceed

[12:06] and uh

[12:09] uh and not worry about the time.

[12:14] » Thank you. Um we are grateful you're

[12:18] here. Uh

[12:21] it's pretty critical that uh each of the

[12:24] communities uh have a voice in what

[12:28] happens here. So

[12:31] all right with that um and Bill remind

[12:35] me how to pronounce your last name.

[12:37] Coob.

[12:38] » Coob. Okay, we'll turn the time over to

[12:42] Bill Coob, the Branchfield's community

[12:46] and economic development director, and

[12:49] uh we look forward to hearing about

[12:52] about their transportation.

[12:55] » Well, strangely enough, it's not

[12:56] allowing me to share anymore.

[12:59] » Is the entire screen up when you have

[13:01] » Well, then nobody online can see it,

[13:03] though.

[13:05] » Is Rosie the host? No, I'm the host.

[13:08] Remember when I said we'll see if it

[13:10] works?

[13:12] I've never had this problem before, just

[13:14] so you're aware.

[13:16] We'll apologize to the people online.

[13:17] They're not going to be able to see.

[13:19] » I'll be very, very descriptive of each

[13:21] slide as they come up. There you go.

[13:24] » Um, thank you very much for the time.

[13:26] Uh, Grantsville, as you know, is the

[13:28] community just to the west of Mura. So,

[13:30] we want to make sure that that's clear

[13:32] on the record.

[13:35] » Wow.

[13:36] Love

[13:39] such good friends.

[13:44] I said quite a part out last, didn't I?

[13:46] [laughter]

[13:46] » Yeah, you did.

[13:48] » Um, we are

[13:50] pretty much done with our transportation

[13:52] master plan update. So, we're excited

[13:54] for this opportunity to share the

[13:55] process that we've been through. And

[13:57] [snorts] just a few of the key

[13:58] highlights here. Um, in 2022 there was

[14:03] an update to our transportation master

[14:05] plan that was gone through and kind of

[14:08] almost adopted but never really got to

[14:10] the stage where the city council

[14:12] adopted. There were some things that

[14:13] needed to be worked through. The next

[14:15] few years we um uh authorized a refresh

[14:20] and procured some grant funding through

[14:22] UDOT. Thank you very much UDOT for the

[14:24] help with that. And um it's uh we have

[14:28] $90,000 that we put towards this update

[14:30] to our transportation master plan. We uh

[14:33] are currently working with uh Jones and

[14:36] DeL who have been great to work with,

[14:38] very responsive and very engaged with

[14:41] this uh city when uh we started working

[14:45] on this last October. And like I said,

[14:48] we're getting really close to being

[14:49] done. Um some of the highlights that I

[14:51] wanted to point out were um we uh looked

[14:54] at the transportation uh master plan and

[14:57] how it aligns with UD do's uh overall

[15:01] transportation vision. And that was

[15:04] important for us because we work with uh

[15:07] UD do and with the county and with other

[15:09] communities and trying to put together a

[15:11] product that will um be integrated into

[15:14] a a whole transportation system.

[15:16] Obviously, you don't start your car and

[15:18] end all of your car trips in Grantsville

[15:21] and not all of your car trips end up in

[15:23] Grantsville if you started somewhere

[15:25] else. So, uh this is a network and a a

[15:29] comprehensive kind of thing and we have

[15:31] to look at the way that each community

[15:33] works with and

[15:36] more. So, that was important to us.

[15:42] We start with looking at what our

[15:44] current asphalt situation looks like in

[15:46] the city and there are areas that will

[15:49] need to be worked on and replaced. As

[15:52] such, um some of those were will be

[15:54] eligible for an upgrade as well as we

[15:56] look into that. So, um this was an

[15:59] important place for us to start with

[16:01] kind of an inventory of what our asphalt

[16:03] looks like.

[16:06] Um then we looked at how to treat those

[16:09] things. Probably skip past that one

[16:11] pretty quick and

[16:14] this one as well. Just looking at how

[16:17] these uh roads are being serviced and

[16:19] are servicing the community and the

[16:23] residents that are there.

[16:28] » Sorry, this is struggling.

[16:31] » This one we're looking at. Um this slide

[16:33] talks about the functional

[16:35] classification and how we have different

[16:37] options for different uh intensities of

[16:40] uses and different road types.

[16:44] Let's look at that.

[16:52] » This one has breaks down the um amount

[16:54] of mileage and and road width and the

[16:59] the percentage of different types of

[17:01] roads in town.

[17:04] We looked at um ADTS the the

[17:10] is that average or yeah average daily

[17:12] traffic and then we have some peak

[17:14] numbers there as well on different roads

[17:16] in town and uh some of these were

[17:19] surprising some of these were as you

[17:21] might expect obviously Main Street is uh

[17:23] not on there because that's information

[17:25] that UD do helps us with but these are

[17:27] other roads that we saw in town and um

[17:30] it was uh there were some definitely

[17:33] interesting things that we um noted as

[17:37] we work through this process.

[17:41] One of the things that's important and

[17:42] continues to be important has to do with

[17:45] uh active transportation including

[17:48] pedestrian facilities as well as bicycle

[17:50] and other modalities. And we want to

[17:52] look at different kinds of things that

[17:54] we could implement some areas in town.

[17:56] Um we don't have a huge trail network in

[17:59] town as of yet, but uh as the

[18:04] pressure to develop increases and as we

[18:06] see um additional homes, businesses come

[18:10] to Grantsville, as we're anticipating,

[18:13] we're going to want to see more of these

[18:14] kinds of things both on street and

[18:16] separated uh paths and and other things

[18:19] to help keep our folks safe as they move

[18:21] around the community.

[18:24] This was just kind of interesting. This

[18:26] was their population estimates as we um

[18:29] are pushing forward now. The uh the

[18:32] estimates that you see there are where

[18:36] we are right now. You see we started

[18:37] from 2015 which gave us a nice base

[18:39] number of about 15,000 people and we're

[18:42] anticipating doubling that over the next

[18:44] 25 years and getting up to

[18:47] around 30,000 35,000 people. So that's

[18:51] going to be some pretty big growth for

[18:52] us uh in the next 25 years. And and it's

[18:55] important for us as we move forward with

[18:57] these things that we have um goals and

[19:02] anticipated needs and and that kind of

[19:05] thing. So that's why we're looking at

[19:06] this kind of chart where we've got

[19:08] different roads and excuse me the

[19:12] patterns for transit and other uses that

[19:15] we will anticipate there. Um, Dery

[19:18] Street, I think, is a big one. As folks

[19:20] look for an alternate way to get east

[19:22] and west through town, Main Street kind

[19:24] of becomes a little bit well, it just

[19:27] gets bogged down. So, uh, that traffic

[19:29] is going to push to the south onto Dery

[19:32] Street. And as that connects up over to,

[19:35] uh, the industrial area on the east side

[19:37] of town, the residential areas on the

[19:39] west side of town, we're anticipating

[19:41] that that could be a significant east

[19:43] west core. uh sheet lane obviously there

[19:46] towards the middle is u

[19:49] going to be a big one as well as we go

[19:51] forward.

[19:54] So we are looking at road crosssections.

[19:56] This these are updated roadway

[19:58] crosssections. This was in in order to

[19:59] keep with state code and uh the pavement

[20:02] widths that they allow for now in their

[20:06] infinite wisdom and all their traffic

[20:08] expertise and yeah the way yeah all of

[20:11] that. Thank you. Thank you for that.

[20:14] Sorry, I said that quiet part.

[20:18] Um, and then overall we've got a network

[20:21] of uh corridors and and transportation

[20:25] routes. One of the things that we're

[20:27] working on very closely currently is uh

[20:31] we're working with the county and with

[20:32] the uh to will army depot to um

[20:39] procure some rightway along the north

[20:40] boundary of the depot or road that will

[20:44] run east and west again similar to the

[20:48] way the Derby road moves east and west.

[20:51] and then N green which is just above the

[20:53] it's kind of in between uh Dery and the

[20:57] key of that green line.

[20:59] Um as you can see as they move to the

[21:02] west they follow kind of the natural

[21:05] topography to connect over to areas that

[21:07] are developing out on the west side

[21:09] above where the Walmart distribution

[21:11] centers at. And uh then we have things

[21:15] on the north side of town

[21:18] that are

[21:21] anticipated to be needed in the

[21:25] the future the window of this

[21:28] transportation master plan which was

[21:29] about 25 years. So

[21:32] it's all on the table. It's all open and

[21:34] all ready to be looked at. And we're

[21:37] excited. We're very grateful for the

[21:39] funding for the assistance and all of

[21:41] the love and support that we have from

[21:43] the county and from other communities as

[21:45] well as from Utah. So if anyone has any

[21:48] questions, we'd be happy to talk about

[21:50] and I'll probably defer mostly to Shel

[21:53] really knows what's going on.

[21:56] » Thank you, Bill. Any questions for Bill,

[22:00] please Jeff? So with um the

[22:03] transportation master plan the act

[22:06] transportation element of that we've had

[22:09] conversations with uh the Utah trail

[22:12] network seeing how grantsville main

[22:14] streets been identified

[22:16] as the vision for that.

[22:18] » Yeah.

[22:19] » Is is the plan going to be updated to at

[22:22] least recommend

[22:24] um which side of the road that should go

[22:26] on? What we were what we were thinking

[22:29] was maybe putting it on the south

[22:32] provides a better connection to 112.

[22:35] Is that something that could be

[22:36] considered or should be considered?

[22:38] » I I think we've talked about that

[22:40] specifically or explicitly at least not

[22:42] that I remember. But

[22:44] » No, we haven't we waiting on you not to

[22:47] us on what side they wanted to on but

[22:50] it's a conversation with

[22:53] them.

[22:56] It sounds like South is the preferred

[22:58] that that's that's as as we talked

[23:00] internally that that's kind of where

[23:02] we're at. Um just

[23:05] it it provides more connection better

[23:07] connection to the schools the existing

[23:10] schools and things like that. Um where

[23:13] that seems a more viable solution than

[23:16] trying to develop north and then

[23:17] figuring out.

[23:20] » Okay. I'll I'll reach back out to the

[23:23] UTM.

[23:25] Perfect.

[23:32] » Not me.

[23:34] » In that case, yes,

[23:37] » I don't know what this is doing. Sorry.

[23:41] » It's the slide just above this one.

[23:43] » Yeah, that's not what my screen's

[23:44] showing though. Sorry.

[23:50] » We're getting new technology in this

[23:52] room, just so you're aware. No, it's

[23:54] not.

[23:58] It's not going back to that.

[24:00] » I'm sorry, guys. I don't know what's

[24:01] happening in life.

[24:04] » So, I'm here and I know in

[24:08] this um Army Depot road, but we have

[24:11] 2000 that directly

[24:14] go across Mid Valley Highway

[24:17] areas. Is that something that that we

[24:21] want? This would be one of the only east

[24:24] west connections

[24:27] in the city.

[24:29] » That's that's a good point. Um that is

[24:31] something from the to Valley area study

[24:34] that we taking that we thought made made

[24:38] good sense. Um how how that connects

[24:44] obviously that that hasn't been fleshed

[24:46] out. Um could we move the proposed

[24:48] interchange with Valley?

[24:51] Absolutely. So because of that by by

[24:55] showing 33rd Parkway, we we see actually

[24:58] both 33rd Parkway and 2000 North as

[25:01] being um east west priorities for this

[25:04] area. So having these lines on on a map

[25:08] and then those being adopted into the

[25:10] local master plans, I think will will

[25:15] provide some long-term benefit to the

[25:19] community.

[25:22] I assume along those lines though

[25:24] because that part that's going to the

[25:26] east is not in grandson,

[25:28] » Right?

[25:29] » And so we'd have to have the other plans

[25:31] identify that,

[25:32] » Right? Yeah, that's that's both probably

[25:35] Twilla City. I don't know if it goes

[25:37] down that far, but Twilla City would

[25:38] have to have that on there.

[25:40] » So I would have to jump I'm not sure

[25:42] what you do at 112. If you're jumping

[25:44] 112, you're jumping mid valley, you're

[25:46] jumping the the bike path as well. I'm

[25:48] not sure how those all work out, but

[25:50] that's the the issues we have in

[25:51] between.

[25:52] » Yeah, from a from a a line extra

[25:54] perspective, it it it seems to make make

[25:57] a lot of sense, especially with Colonel

[25:59] I think it's Colonel Road, what Grant

[26:01] Grall that runs along the north edge of

[26:04] of the Army Depot. You know, trying to

[26:07] connect these um these future and

[26:10] existing roadways in a so they're not

[26:13] skewed um better alignment.

[26:17] I think that that that will benefit the

[26:20] network, the local network. Um how we

[26:23] how we do that that that still need to

[26:27] be.

[26:28] » Yeah.

[26:34] » Other questions or comments for

[26:37] Bransville?

[26:41] All right. Thank you.

[26:43] Well uh appreciate your sharing that and

[26:48] opportunity to initiate some discussion

[26:51] there. So,

[26:53] » Uh, for the next item, um, as most of

[26:58] you are aware, uh, every four years, the

[27:01] state and the four NPOS and UTA update

[27:05] the statewide unified transportation

[27:07] plan, uh, the four MO regional

[27:10] transportation plans, the state long

[27:13] range plan uh, for areas outside of the

[27:16] NPOS's, and the UTA transit longrange

[27:20] plan.

[27:22] Uh these plans are pretty critical uh

[27:25] for major roadway capacity needs to be

[27:28] identified and plan for as well as

[27:30] transit and active transportation needs.

[27:34] And the next update of these plans is

[27:37] currently scheduled to be completed by

[27:40] mid 2027.

[27:43] So year to a year and a half from now.

[27:47] and we'll cover the time period 2027 to

[27:51] 2055.

[27:54] Uh there's no requirement that the Tilla

[27:57] Valley RPO plan be on the same schedule.

[28:01] Uh but it would probably help uh with

[28:07] better coordination and alignment uh

[28:11] dialogue and opportunities to do our

[28:14] best to to work together uh for getting

[28:20] coordination more coordination between

[28:22] local facilities and state facilities

[28:25] and the plans for such um to update the

[28:29] RPO plan on a similar time frame to uh

[28:34] the unified plan and the NPOS's and and

[28:37] the state and UTA. Um

[28:41] any comments or thoughts about that

[28:45] initial thought,

[28:49] » Please sh

[28:57] anything you'd like to say in that

[28:59] regard? I've got a bit of background on

[29:03] that. I can share a few thoughts, but

[29:05] Matt, anything you'd like to share? The

[29:09] question was any thoughts or plans in

[29:14] regard to bringing tracks or UTA

[29:17] uh more fully out to to

[29:25] » Um Sorry, I had to step away, but I did

[29:27] hear you when you repeated it. Um

[29:31] uh anything that we have planned should

[29:34] be in

[29:36] um RTPs or our longrange transit plan.

[29:41] Um

[29:43] light rail I don't I don't we wouldn't

[29:46] have any plans at this time. Um

[29:50] but um

[29:54] » We bring how do we get on the plan to

[29:55] bring front runners out here?

[29:57] » Yeah. And go ahead, Matt. I'll I can

[30:02] supplement if if you want.

[30:04] » Yeah. Yeah. Would you give it a shot?

[30:07] » Sure. Um so uh about five years ago uh

[30:12] UTA and local governments worked on a

[30:16] transit uh feasibility study and

[30:20] identified four different alternatives

[30:23] for improved transit between Tula Valley

[30:26] and Salt Lake Valley uh including

[30:29] commuter rail and uh bus rapid transit

[30:33] uh and a couple other alternatives. Um

[30:38] the uh costs both both from a cost

[30:43] perspective and from a wrership

[30:45] perspective

[30:47] uh it was difficult to justify anything

[30:51] um beyond

[30:53] uh an enhanced bus service. Um that can

[30:58] certainly be looked at again. Uh but

[31:00] that's um

[31:04] our most recent uh transit feasibility

[31:07] study. Uh looking at that,

[31:12] like I said, costs and writership were

[31:15] both analyzed. I'd be happy to get a

[31:18] copy of that

[31:20] sent

[31:22] to to you and whoever whomever else

[31:25] would would like it.

[31:28] Beldon and

[31:30] Shelby and anybody else that would

[31:32] Kathleen

[31:35] send it to the group.

[31:36] » Yeah, we'll just send it uh send it out.

[31:39] Kimal.

[31:55] So the question was whether there's

[31:57] something somewhat you know similar to

[32:00] the Uber that lift that might have been

[32:03] looked at. Um

[32:06] Matt either you or I could talk briefly

[32:09] about the on demand service uh that's

[32:14] currently operating in Tilla Valley.

[32:20] Do you want to take that matter or do

[32:22] you want me to take a shot at that?

[32:26] » Yeah,

[32:26] » I'm sorry. I've I've been cutting in and

[32:28] out. Um

[32:31] uh can you repeat that?

[32:33] » Um could you talk briefly about the on

[32:36] demand service that's out here and uh

[32:40] potential

[32:42] uh enhancements to that?

[32:46] Yeah, what I can say is that you know

[32:48] the on demand service that's serving

[32:50] Twilla, Grantsville, Erda, Stansbury,

[32:54] um I think that can be an indicator of

[32:57] demand for transit and so um it's a good

[33:01] start but uh it would be better to have

[33:04] fixed route and I know that uh fixed

[33:08] route service to

[33:10] Tilla that is regular and not just peak

[33:12] hours uh is in our plans and um I think

[33:18] that would be really great. Um

[33:23] and

[33:24] uh

[33:26] that's about all I can say on that.

[33:30] » Okay. Thanks, Matt. Appreciate it. Um

[33:34] » Talk more offline as well, but

[33:39] sorry. We can talk more offline as well.

[33:42] Um but for the time being

[33:45] area. [clears throat]

[33:47] uh recap. Um

[33:50] » So

[33:52] just as a starting point for discussion,

[33:55] I'd like to uh given that uh it's likely

[33:59] beneficial to both local governments as

[34:03] well as uh everyone who lives and works

[34:07] out here to uh try and coordinate

[34:11] development of state plans and local

[34:13] plans as much as possible. I'd like to

[34:16] propose a a schedule for updating the

[34:19] RPO plan and ask for your for your

[34:22] thoughts. This is just a starting point.

[34:27] » Tell me what you think. But um what I

[34:30] propose is holding an additional meeting

[34:34] of the RPO the latter half of April uh

[34:38] to look at the existing RPO plan highway

[34:42] plan highway element of the plan and

[34:45] identify what highway projects would be

[34:47] appropriate, what roadway projects would

[34:50] be appropriate to add to the plan. Um,

[34:54] and then at our June meeting, take that

[34:58] list that we come up with in April of

[35:01] needed roadway improvements by 2055.

[35:05] Uh, in June, uh, come back and develop a

[35:10] proposed phasing or prioritization of

[35:13] those needs. Um, up to 205.

[35:18] Uh and then at our September meeting,

[35:20] I'd propose looking at both our active

[35:25] transportation and transit plans that we

[35:29] currently have and uh trying to identify

[35:32] updates to those. Uh and then taking

[35:37] that out into public comment uh in

[35:40] October or November.

[35:43] And uh and that would allow us to get

[35:47] some uh public input on the uh the RPO

[35:52] plan prior to UD do getting public input

[35:57] on the statewide plan uh in the winter

[36:03] like January February time frame.

[36:06] So, uh, just a proposal. What do you

[36:11] think?

[36:15] » I think we're good.

[36:17] » I got two uh two thumbs up.

[36:21] Any other comments? Looks like

[36:26] sounds agreeable to folks. So, let's

[36:28] plan on doing that. Um, while we've got

[36:32] a minute. Um, is there a time in the

[36:38] latter part of April, I mean, does

[36:40] Monday afternoon like on April 20th,

[36:45] uh, is that an option either April 20th,

[36:50] Monday 1:30 if the room is available or

[36:55] either the Monday before, Monday after,

[36:57] but the 20th I'm seeing a couple of head

[37:00] nods and agreement. Um, so let's plan on

[37:06] uh that additional meeting on April 20th

[37:11] and then we'll follow that with uh the

[37:14] already scheduled meetings in on June

[37:16] 8th and whatever the second Monday in

[37:20] September is.

[37:23] » We move that to the 27th. Britney or I

[37:26] will be there. Yeah. Be on the 20th.

[37:27] Would that work for

[37:31] everyone else to if we move that to

[37:33] April 27th?

[37:35] » Doesn't work for me, but I'll try and

[37:37] get some

[37:45] » City

[37:47] is April 27th the afternoon like 1:30 on

[37:51] April 27th work.

[37:53] » Yes.

[37:55] » Okay.

[37:57] Well, good. Let's let's plan on that and

[38:00] we'll uh count on getting

[38:05] somebody from

[38:07] here. So, April 27,

[38:10] June 8th, and then the second Monday in

[38:13] September.

[38:16] All right. Thank you. Uh appreciate

[38:19] that. more information and

[38:24] discussion to come. But um

[38:28] Udant is regarding this next agenda

[38:31] item. Udant is starting on their update

[38:35] to the statewide plan and the first step

[38:37] in that is developing socioeconomic

[38:41] forecasts. So with that introduction,

[38:43] I'll turn it over to Natalia.

[38:49] use this.

[38:51] » Yeah.

[38:54] » Okay.

[39:01] I oversee the development of some of our

[39:03] tools into a future. Um some of you were

[39:08] in a meeting. I remember Shelby um uh in

[39:13] July of last year we were looking at

[39:16] households in 2023 and I asked if you

[39:19] could provide that feedback. So we took

[39:21] that feedback and we proved our 2023

[39:24] estimates. These were like these are not

[39:27] like at the county level but for zone

[39:30] specific so much smaller

[39:32] city level it's much smaller and

[39:36] » Are you actually

[39:38] » Thank you um we'll show you what the

[39:41] granularity is um here um but so we did

[39:45] that last year um in around October we

[39:49] sent an email out to

[39:52] jobs so thank you for all of those that

[39:55] provided feedback for us. We implemented

[39:57] that as well and now we're here to look

[40:01] at the future. So we took 2023 estimates

[40:05] with all the feedback that we got from

[40:06] you and we um use that as a starting

[40:10] point and then projected out all the way

[40:12] in 2055. And that's what this map is

[40:16] showing. Um, so what we'd like your help

[40:20] now is to review 255

[40:24] both households and job estimates. Um,

[40:29] we so um it's all at what we call zones

[40:35] um that make up the entire county. Um

[40:39] and so um you can zoom in to either

[40:44] dwell or like orville maybe just to kind

[40:49] of so the more populated the area the

[40:52] smaller the zones get. Um so I just want

[40:54] to give you a sense of what these look

[40:57] like but

[40:59] um our so what we did was we used the

[41:02] KCR policy institute estimates we call

[41:06] them totals um they give a high level so

[41:10] for in the case I was looking at these

[41:12] numbers earlier

[41:13] » Can I just click on

[41:18] we have by 2055

[41:24] almost 58,000

[41:27] homes households.

[41:28] » It's not me.

[41:30] » Jobs.

[41:36] » I feel so stupid right now.

[41:38] » You have about 44,000

[41:40] jobs in the future. So, our job is to

[41:43] get those numbers that try to allow you

[41:45] to do these different things. We did our

[41:47] best to get uh appropriate numbers, but

[41:51] that's why we need your help to see if

[41:53] they make sense. Um we we knew something

[41:56] from previous studies from components

[41:58] we've received in the past. So we try to

[42:00] use all of that and do our best to put

[42:03] that together. Um but now we need your

[42:06] eyes on this and see does this make

[42:08] sense. So we did a few things that I

[42:10] wanted to just uh kind of guide you on

[42:12] how to review this. So if you could at

[42:14] the very top there is on the uh right

[42:17] side there's HH which stands for

[42:20] households and there says EMP that stand

[42:22] for employment. Um and in each of them

[42:25] we have four different layers. So

[42:28] different ways of looking at the data.

[42:29] So the first one which is what when you

[42:31] open it what you're going to see is

[42:32] households for 2023 but you can um

[42:36] uncheck that and look at just uh 2055

[42:41] which is the next layer over that's just

[42:43] so 555

[42:46] um but then the next one down is for the

[42:50] change.

[42:52] So this is how much each of these zones

[42:54] is growing. So it's 2055 minus 2023. Um

[42:59] and this is helpful to see like what

[43:00] zones are um growing the most sense but

[43:05] maybe like there are other areas that

[43:08] are growing more. So this is just a way

[43:10] of explaining that. And then the very

[43:12] last one is the percent change which

[43:15] this could be a little bit tricky

[43:16] because if you have one household right

[43:19] now like in the future you have five 500

[43:22] the percent is going to be really high.

[43:24] Um so this one take with a grain of salt

[43:28] because of that area that is zero right

[43:30] now but you're going to have growth in

[43:32] the future it may may have like huge

[43:34] percentages. So this is just different

[43:36] ways to look at the data. Um so this age

[43:40] is just for households and the same

[43:42] thing is this for employment where we

[43:44] have jobs for 2023

[43:47] for 2055 the absolute difference of

[43:50] those those two and the numbers percent.

[43:52] So, what we're looking for um is for you

[43:56] to look at this and see if it makes

[43:58] sense. If it doesn't, if you have areas

[44:00] that shouldn't be going, shouldn't be

[44:03] drawing at all, but um should uh put a

[44:08] point in there. So, the way to put the

[44:10] point is on that same uh top right, the

[44:15] second symbol. Yeah. Right there.

[44:20] Uh there's new feature. you just click

[44:22] there and you can start putting that

[44:23] anywhere and then you can write in a say

[44:26] this doesn't make any sense it should be

[44:27] way less um there may be cases where you

[44:30] know there's a development coming in

[44:32] already there should be at least 200

[44:35] homes in this area that's the type of

[44:37] command that we're looking for and then

[44:39] you have time frames for those even

[44:42] better like oh there's a development

[44:44] coming here in 2030

[44:46] and 2030 we should have about this that

[44:49] is helpful because what they need to do

[44:51] was time it. So, we're showing just just

[44:54] 2055, but then we need to start putting

[44:57] them5

[45:00] now 2025.

[45:03] » That makes sense what the request is.

[45:06] » Yeah. Okay.

[45:07] » Do we have a

[45:10] uh is this layer accessible?

[45:12] » We can send that to you.

[45:13] » Okay.

[45:15] » Never mind.

[45:17] I'm behind.

[45:19] » Okay. And if you um we can send you the

[45:21] actual layer if you want to create your

[45:24] own maps and locate it that way. We can

[45:26] absolutely do that. Um my contact info

[45:29] is in the uh the first tab or the info

[45:32] at the very bottom of my email. So if

[45:34] you'd like anything like send me send

[45:37] you run specifically or something like

[45:40] that or send you a later so you can

[45:42] create your own map, we can absolutely

[45:44] do that. The important thing is that we

[45:46] can get your information because we want

[45:48] to make this estimates as accurate as

[45:52] possible. Um, and no better way than

[45:55] having your eyes. So yeah, if you have

[45:58] any questions,

[46:02] » Tell him by when are you

[46:04] » Excited?

[46:21] Four weeks

[46:23] » For the next meeting.

[46:24] » Well, yeah. Yes, that's what I was

[46:26] thinking. We had it by the next meeting.

[46:28] » By next meeting.

[46:30] » Yeah,

[46:33] » That's four. No, more than that.

[46:37] » Yeah. Anyway, uh by the next meeting, so

[46:40] April 27th.

[46:42] » Yes. By then, just have everything

[46:44] either. So you can put points in the map

[46:47] but you can also just send me an email

[46:48] and say hey these areas

[46:51] if you have development site plans or

[46:54] something like that that would also be

[46:56] helpful for us. um no require advice

[47:00] whatsoever but that is helpful just for

[47:02] weekends but sometimes these zones don't

[47:04] exactly cover a full development so they

[47:06] can split the development so that

[47:08] silence

[47:11] um another thing that is helpful for us

[47:14] is how sure the developments are because

[47:18] again we're constrained by what gardener

[47:21] provides so if we think so that growth

[47:26] like saying by 2055 it's about 30,000

[47:29] households. So we need to feel that

[47:31] growth in the entire country or maybe

[47:33] all the developments that you have are

[47:35] going to push us to 50,000. So we need

[47:37] to start prioritizing which ones are

[47:39] more sure than others or maybe at the

[47:41] moment you say there's 7,000 units

[47:43] coming in but maybe realistically we're

[47:45] talking about5.

[47:49] So we just start making some decisions.

[47:51] So the more information we have the

[47:53] better we can get this into this and we

[47:57] do this every four years. So in four

[47:59] years we come back and ask. So this is

[48:02] not now or never but we get it now the

[48:05] better.

[48:10] » Any further questions or comments for

[48:15] » I just took a survey from I think the

[48:20] county. I'm not sure. It's a safety

[48:21] survey of the things that need to be

[48:25] developed or need to be in our opinion.

[48:29] What does Tilla County need to work on

[48:32] safety wise on roadways? You guys do

[48:35] know what that

[48:36] » Michelle can give you more information

[48:38] on that.

[48:39] » And does that factor into this stuff at

[48:42] all or is that

[48:45] » What was that for?

[48:49] It's forward road implementation.

[48:53] » Okay. All right.

[48:59] » Our whole district took that survey.

[49:01] They were fascinated by it. They were

[49:04] all all over it.

[49:07] » And I should mention that the reason we

[49:08] are doing this is to

[49:11] help us plan. So depending on where the

[49:13] growth is occurring, how much demand

[49:15] we're going to have and you know

[49:17] transportation infrastructure.

[49:20] So it it informs

[49:23] um the future transportation

[49:26] area.

[49:29] » Perfect. Thank you.

[49:30] » Any questions? My email is in that link

[49:32] and hopefully if you can distribute that

[49:34] link to this group. I think it's in the

[49:36] agenda but

[49:39] » We will distribute it.

[49:40] » Thank you.

[49:43] All right. Uh, turn the time over to

[49:47] Jeff Dupe to talk about high priority

[49:50] corridor designations

[49:53] on me.

[49:57] » I'll bring

[50:00] um, so going to your question on on the

[50:02] safety improvements on on corridors.

[50:06] One one thing to kind of look at what

[50:08] Natalia was saying we're taking with the

[50:11] long range we're taking that period to

[50:13] look out. So a lot in most cases these

[50:17] safety improvements are more during

[50:19] shorter shorter time frame. So they're

[50:22] just looked at differently than what

[50:25] we're trying to do here. The the one

[50:27] thing to add to um Natalia's schedule

[50:31] for getting that that data hopefully by

[50:34] the or looking at all these all these

[50:38] socioeconomic data um by the end of

[50:41] April what that's going to help with us

[50:44] determine what what those long-term

[50:48] priorities need to look like um sooner.

[50:52] We we actually need um within those

[50:55] recommendations and and be able to do

[50:57] that analysis around that in the summer

[51:00] time frame the last August time frame to

[51:03] to move forward in the next steps of the

[51:05] the long range planning process. So if

[51:09] the as soon we can get to some level of

[51:12] concurrence on the on the socioeconomic

[51:17] data we can start working on the

[51:19] prioritization of of course what's those

[51:22] long

[51:24] required speaking of um high priority

[51:28] corridors. So this is a this is a list

[51:31] that um the commission is is is asked to

[51:35] assemble. Um and or at least our

[51:39] transportation commission is asked to

[51:41] assemble. And back in uh February at our

[51:47] in our commission workshop, it was

[51:50] recommended that we add

[51:53] um Mid Valley Highway to the high

[51:56] priority corridor list.

[51:59] What that

[52:02] you thought that would be a good thing.

[52:06] But what what's important what's really

[52:09] unique about this is so it it's not it

[52:12] hasn't seen final approval. It's just a

[52:14] recommendation. But what what's really

[52:17] important about that recommendation is

[52:19] that then it kind of puts

[52:23] puts some emphasis on on any development

[52:26] that's happening along that corridor or

[52:29] adjacent to that corridor that the

[52:32] department um become notified

[52:36] that so that we can then start having

[52:38] some of those coral preservation

[52:41] discussions. Um because right now with

[52:44] with the the you don't have a project

[52:47] identified

[52:48] um that actually has has anything but um

[52:53] planning dollars assigned to it. Um we

[52:57] we have to work on a willing buyer

[53:00] willing seller scenario.

[53:03] So by by designating the thinking is by

[53:06] designating this high priority then you

[53:10] as locals u and county can let us know

[53:14] when these developments come in so that

[53:16] we can start that start having those

[53:18] conversations and hopefully get things

[53:22] preserved as much as we possibly can. So

[53:25] it just kind of helps helps that

[53:27] partnership um formalize that

[53:29] partnership a little bit. Does that that

[53:32] make sense what we're asking? Okay. So

[53:36] that's that's really the the uh we don't

[53:39] have final approval saying I don't

[53:41] » March commission is when commission for

[53:44] » Okay. So that'll be um that'll be

[53:48] officially commission this month. Um in

[53:52] fact I think it's next week two weeks.

[53:54] Was it two weeks? 2013. Okay. Anytime.

[53:58] And so head towards the end of the

[54:00] month. Um then then the commission will

[54:04] will review and hopefully approve that

[54:08] recommendations.

[54:09] » Is that expected? Do you need anything

[54:11] in support of that recommendation?

[54:13] » I I I don't think so. um because what

[54:17] what we did with the valley study and

[54:20] when the commission was out here uh it's

[54:23] been two years

[54:25] since um since since they were out here

[54:27] um

[54:29] it's all these conversations that are

[54:31] leading to that decision being made. So

[54:33] I I think I I think we're we're okay if

[54:36] if you want to if you want to send

[54:38] something to the to the commission,

[54:40] you're more than welcome to saying we we

[54:42] support your we would be in support of

[54:44] your decision to to add that to your

[54:47] type list. Your requirement is to inform

[54:51] you of the recommendation prior to

[54:55] becoming finalized.

[55:02] » Okay. We should be notifying you.

[55:05] » If you want to if you want to send it to

[55:06] me, that's perfectly fine. Then I then I

[55:08] will

[55:12] change.

[55:17] » Okay. So Jeff, your ask is to for local

[55:22] governments to notify you of uh

[55:27] developments that are

[55:30] what's the best word? Well, any any um

[55:34] potential developments that would would

[55:37] be occurring within the mountain within

[55:40] the mid valley mid valley mount sometime

[55:44] give flip within the the mid valley

[55:47] highway corridor.

[55:48] » So the the environmentally cleared

[55:51] alignment.

[55:51] » Okay. adjacent to or in because what we

[55:55] want to try to do is avoid any

[55:58] additional development coming in that

[56:01] would then preclude us from or or would

[56:05] require us to then re-evaluate

[56:08] that highway alignment because now we've

[56:10] got a development kind of standing in

[56:12] the way. So it helps it just helps get

[56:15] everybody on the same page so that as

[56:17] development is pending or being

[56:19] discussed, let us know. So then we can

[56:22] start insert insert ourselves in those

[56:25] conversations and see what what we can

[56:27] do to preserve that.

[56:30] » Do we have a final route?

[56:33] Yeah, that the we what we did is we

[56:35] cleared about a 200 foot swah

[56:39] um you know like for example in

[56:42] splitting you know going along the west

[56:44] side of the of the airport and and

[56:47] coming out that way

[56:50] are there when we get into um into final

[56:53] design those things will be refined but

[56:57] we we clear that environmental footprint

[56:59] [clears throat]

[57:00] first because

[57:02] that that that gives us the opportunity

[57:05] to be flexible where we need to be um

[57:08] and and try to hold off any any

[57:11] development that that could be

[57:13] encroaching into.

[57:16] » So So is that do you have a picture of

[57:19] that on your website where you the final

[57:21] lines of that too? Yeah, I I can I'll

[57:24] share I'll share.

[57:30] » Yeah, in fact

[57:33] the [clears throat] map that um was

[57:36] displaying from our

[57:39] following the the environment

[57:41] environmentally

[57:43] » That

[57:49] again we're still talking lines on the

[57:50] map. So things things can can be

[57:53] adjusted but we want to try to minimize

[57:55] that as much as possible.

[58:02] » Great.

[58:04] Thank you Jeff. Um

[58:07] any other items of business?

[58:12] Hearing none seeing none. Uh I'll just

[58:16] note uh for our April 27th meeting uh if

[58:21] you're able to attend in person that

[58:25] would be wonderful. I think we can

[58:27] [snorts] have uh an even more effective

[58:31] conversation about uh updates to the

[58:35] plan uh by having the conversation in

[58:37] person. Um

[58:40] but uh other than that uh we will stand

[58:44] adjourned and forward to seeing you on

[58:48] Monday, April 27th.

[58:51] Thank you.

Tooele Valley Rural Planning Organization Meeting - March 9, 2026

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