[0:01] Okay, it's 4:30, so we'll

[0:05] call the public safety committee meeting

[0:07] to order. Roll calls that everyone is

[0:09] present here. Um, you had a agenda sent

[0:13] to you. Is there any additions or

[0:15] corrections to that agenda? Not. I'd

[0:17] look for a motion to approve. Motion

[0:20] moving by Jay. Is there a second?

[0:23] » Second by George. Uh, any discussion?

[0:26] All in favor?

[0:28] » Opposed? All right. So, that passes. Um,

[0:31] and you also sent the minutes of the 812

[0:35] 2026 regular meeting. Um, is there any

[0:38] additions or corrections to those

[0:40] minutes? If not, I look for a motion to

[0:42] approve those. Motion to approve. Okay.

[0:45] Motion by Peterson. Second.

[0:49] » Second by Irvin. Uh, any discussion?

[0:52] All in favor? I opposed. All right. So,

[0:55] that passes as well. Public comments. Is

[0:58] there any public comments today?

[1:02] » Okay, seeing none, we'll move into the

[1:04] fire services region.

[1:08] Not too much to uh bring up with fire

[1:11] departments. Uh fire has been a little

[1:13] slower, but uh EMS has definitely been

[1:16] very busy um with that, but uh nothing

[1:19] for fire that I have unless you guys

[1:22] have any questions, but

[1:26] » Okay. Thank you. All right. Uh medical

[1:30] examiner.

[1:33] » Hello everyone. Can you hear me? Okay.

[1:36] Okay. So, [clears throat] I'll give you

[1:38] the individual county deaths. Um for

[1:40] Green Lake, we had 22 total deaths. 18

[1:42] of those were ME cases. 16 natural, one

[1:45] accident, one currently pending autopsy

[1:47] or toxicology. For Marquette, we had 18

[1:50] total deaths, 15 were ME cases, 13

[1:52] natural, one accident, one pending

[1:54] autopsy or toxicology. And for Wer, we

[1:57] had 21 total deaths. 17 were ME cases,

[1:59] 16 natural, one accident, and we had no

[2:01] autopsies. Total deaths for all counties

[2:03] were 61 for the month of August. Um, you

[2:06] will see in the packet that I gave you,

[2:08] there is the year-to-ate budget report

[2:10] for the ME's office. Um, there are

[2:13] different um and newly created accounts

[2:16] for each county. So, we can

[2:17] differentiate now for death

[2:19] certificates, cremation permits, and

[2:21] other fees. So you'll see that change um

[2:24] for this year because those were just

[2:25] created this year. So we're moving we're

[2:27] doing journal entries to move those into

[2:29] the appropriate accounts. You will see

[2:31] that. Next you will have the proposed um

[2:35] 2027

[2:37] um budget that um we're looking at um

[2:40] and asking for. And you'll see those

[2:42] accounts again divvied up within there

[2:45] just to kind of show you what we're

[2:47] looking at for each individual county

[2:49] and what the picture is for that.

[2:53] Do you have any questions for those?

[2:58] [clears throat]

[2:59] » I just question. So, am I seeing this

[3:01] right? You're looking at a

[3:04] $162,000

[3:05] increase in revenue.

[3:08] » So, we did acquire the contract with

[3:10] Green Lake County this year and that is

[3:12] for only six months, but we're also

[3:15] increasing the revenues because of the

[3:16] death certificates and cremation permits

[3:18] we are signing. So there is incre an

[3:20] increase in that plus the innovation

[3:21] grant that we did receive. So that is

[3:24] also in there.

[3:28] And then for um Marquette County, they

[3:30] have agreed to renew. They want to renew

[3:32] for the next three years. The innovation

[3:34] grant actually just opened up today. I

[3:36] saw the email come through due October

[3:38] 1st. I'm hoping that we can um apply for

[3:41] that for Marquette County to also

[3:43] continue to receive the safety

[3:44] innovation grant for that county as

[3:46] well. Yeah, and if I can just clarify on

[3:49] that, it actually opens up October 1st.

[3:51] There'll be a round due December 31st

[3:53] for a grant payment in early 2027.

[3:56] There'll also be another round due March

[3:57] 31st for a grant in June next year. So,

[4:00] we are working with Marquette County to

[4:02] structure that contract so that it's

[4:03] eligible as as well.

[4:07] » Um, we're still continuing to um recruit

[4:10] applicants for a part-time deputy. Um,

[4:12] we have had some um they just have not

[4:15] been qualified. A lot of the recipients

[4:17] that we are getting are out of state and

[4:19] not realizing really what the pay is

[4:21] because the part-time deputy is paid

[4:23] that 150 per hour, a$150 per hour while

[4:27] on call, but then when they get called

[4:28] out, it's a different wage on the wage

[4:30] scale. So, um I am continuing to reach

[4:34] out to people and see if there's anybody

[4:35] available, but if you guys know of

[4:37] anybody, please do send them our way. Um

[4:39] we have um Lindsay Folstrom in our

[4:43] office as the administrative assistant.

[4:44] She's working out wonderfully. Um, she's

[4:46] a quick learner. She's a go-getter. Um,

[4:48] she runs our office like a very tight

[4:50] ship right now. So, she's doing very

[4:52] well and we are very appreciative of

[4:54] her. August 26, I did participate in the

[4:56] Green Lake County mass casualty

[4:58] incident. They asked me to come in the

[5:00] afternoon for the death notifications,

[5:03] but they actually couldn't find

[5:05] volunteers. It was very difficult for

[5:06] them to grab volunteers that wanted to

[5:08] actually receive a death notification.

[5:10] Nobody wants to receive that. But I did

[5:13] actually sit down and have a great

[5:15] conversation with u many of their HHS

[5:18] workers um their um therapists,

[5:20] behavioral therapists and such. Plus, we

[5:22] had mansior gun because this did take

[5:24] place up at All Saints in Berlin. And we

[5:26] had a great conversation of what does

[5:28] this look like? What do we need here?

[5:30] What are the resources we need? because

[5:32] I likely will not be there to re to

[5:34] provide that death notification to

[5:36] families because I'm going to be out in

[5:38] the field making sure that things are

[5:39] done accurately and then my deputies

[5:41] will be out there with me and then other

[5:42] deputies will be running business as

[5:44] usual. Okay. Um and then the last sheet

[5:48] in your packet you'll see it's called

[5:50] the memory rock garden.

[5:53] Um, the safety innovation grant provided

[5:55] us some funds that Megan allowed me to

[5:56] use to redo those large 35- foot

[6:00] planters out front the old highway shop,

[6:02] now our office. We have completed them.

[6:04] It was a lot of work. My staff and I did

[6:06] this hauling rock and planting trees.

[6:09] Bloxs garden or Bloxs Farm had provided

[6:12] the landscaping materials and stuff like

[6:15] that. They um waved the delivery fee, so

[6:18] that's why you see their Bloxs Farm logo

[6:21] on the bottom here. This is what is

[6:23] going to be in a plaqueard outside in

[6:25] the garden for families to come up and

[6:27] see. We have these um pre-made bags for

[6:32] families to take paint these rocks and

[6:34] bring them back into the garden at

[6:36] night. We did I did purchase solar

[6:38] lights. So, we have soil lights that

[6:39] light up the garden and you'll be able

[6:41] to see that as well. So, I welcome you

[6:42] to come and see our little rock garden

[6:45] for people um to come and and do this.

[6:48] And I think it's a great effort on

[6:50] behalf of the medical examiner's office

[6:52] to connect and continue to connect with

[6:54] communities and families that we serve.

[6:56] Um ATSF will be putting their flag up

[6:59] there as well and we work with them for

[7:02] recovery of donation like tissue and

[7:04] organ donation as well. So their flag

[7:07] will be up there. The medical examiner's

[7:08] flag is up there as well.

[7:10] » Do you have any questions?

[7:12] » Do you have any questions?

[7:15] How is it I mean how's it going like

[7:17] logistically and stuff now because

[7:19] that's 60 deaths that's two per day

[7:22] basically but what uh how is that

[7:24] working for you for I mean I'm sure you

[7:28] don't I don't know if you have to go to

[7:30] each one or or or how you handle that

[7:32] but

[7:33] » So no we don't need to go to each one a

[7:35] lot of the deaths that we do receive are

[7:37] hospice tests and they become medical

[7:39] examiner cases when they become a

[7:41] cremation um if they're signed if there

[7:44] is no injury and they're being buried,

[7:46] we don't get involved. We recommend the

[7:48] physician take care of that death.

[7:50] » Um, so the 61 deaths are the ones that

[7:52] we actually physically touched. I don't

[7:54] know how many of those were hospice. Um,

[7:58] but I would say at least 50% if not

[8:00] more. Um, and that's between all three

[8:03] counties. Um, it's working out well with

[8:06] my deputies. they are enjoying the extra

[8:09] work because obviously with only

[8:10] Marquette and Wera we did have the

[8:13] deaths but we didn't have as many so

[8:16] they were you know we had to you know

[8:18] create things for them to do and and

[8:20] busy their time which now we have all

[8:23] that plus the desk and they are knowing

[8:25] that they are going to get out there and

[8:27] they're going to learn they're going to

[8:28] put their techniques and whatever they

[8:30] have learned in school or for me to use

[8:33] so they are very I have a very happy

[8:35] staff right

[8:36] So that's good to know.

[8:39] » Yes.

[8:40] » Good.

[8:41] Thank you.

[8:44] » Okay. Um there's no unfinished business

[8:47] or new business. So we'll move then.

[8:53] » So I'll just provide a few quick updates

[8:55] here um administratively. So I did email

[8:58] out the call volume uh for through the

[9:01] month of August. So Rob uh the chief

[9:03] from Marquette County has been assisting

[9:05] with running those reports for us. Um I

[9:08] did have a sit down meeting with our

[9:10] captains and just kind of ensured that

[9:12] things are delegated and um assisting

[9:15] where needed to ensure daily operations

[9:17] are continuing there. Uh we do have a

[9:20] new deputy chief that's coming on board.

[9:22] Her name is Jessica Montgomery. She is

[9:23] starting at the end of this month

[9:25] September 28th. Um so we're very excited

[9:28] to bring her on board. Um, and we are

[9:32] continuing uh conversations with

[9:33] Marquette County. Um, I did, as

[9:36] requested from the last meeting, send

[9:37] out the staff survey to kind of gauge

[9:39] staff's input on a potential um,

[9:41] consolidation with Marquette. Marquette

[9:44] County also sent out the same survey.

[9:46] So, we're receiving responses back from

[9:48] that through this Friday. Um, so we'll

[9:50] get that information to you once that

[9:51] survey um, is completed. Um, and we do

[9:54] have Rob from Marquette County online

[9:56] uh, today as well. And then um under new

[10:00] business we'll be looking at um cons

[10:03] excuse me the consultant um for the EMS

[10:07] consolidation.

[10:09] » Okay, sounds good. Any any questions on

[10:13] that? All right, so there is no

[10:15] unfinished business. Let's move into new

[10:17] business. Uh discussion possible action

[10:19] on EMS consultant for evaluation of

[10:22] consolidation.

[10:24] Um so Dana um is online with us as well

[10:29] from strategic management and

[10:31] consulting. Um so Dana has put a

[10:33] proposal together for us on what it

[10:35] would look like to uh do an evaluation

[10:39] of the pros and cons for doing a

[10:42] consolidated service with Marquette

[10:44] County. I emailed out the proposal um

[10:47] earlier this morning. Um, so I'm not

[10:49] sure if you've had a a chance to review

[10:51] that. Um, but Dana, would you want to

[10:55] chime in on just kind of a brief

[10:57] overview of what we'd be looking at for

[10:59] consulting services with you?

[11:02] » Uh, good afternoon. Uh, thanks for the

[11:04] opportunity to speak to the group. Um,

[11:07] my name is Dana Seckler and I've been

[11:09] involved in uh, EMS for about 35 years

[11:13] now. Uh the other person that will be um

[11:17] coming in to assist is Dan Williams. Uh

[11:21] some of you may know uh Dan. He's been

[11:23] involved in EMS and fire for closer to

[11:26] 45 or 46 years now. Um both of us have

[11:30] the opportunity to work at the state uh

[11:33] EMS office as part of the regulatory

[11:36] agency. So we're certainly well aware of

[11:38] a lot of the nuances associated uh with

[11:41] EMS and running services. Um Dan was

[11:45] also the service director that

[11:46] [clears throat] helped to start up uh

[11:48] Door County uh many many many years ago.

[11:51] Uh so he's got uh quite a bit of

[11:53] experience with that as well. So between

[11:55] the two of us, we would be looking at uh

[11:57] the options that uh you have with u the

[12:00] current model that you have with Wera

[12:02] County EMS as well as the option of uh

[12:05] merging or bringing the two uh groups

[12:08] from Wera County EMS and Marquette

[12:10] County EMS together.

[12:13] Um, last year I also had the opportunity

[12:15] to work with a number of entities on

[12:17] helping them with their innovation

[12:20] planning grant. I heard that already

[12:21] mentioned and uh, congratulations to

[12:24] Wera County for the grants that you guys

[12:26] did get. uh there's going to be that

[12:28] next round coming up of which there's

[12:30] still quite a bit of funding available

[12:33] and uh we believe that uh if you were to

[12:36] pursue uh that option uh that would

[12:39] certainly be one of the uh parameters

[12:42] that would make you eligible to apply

[12:44] for this as well. So, we'll be able to

[12:46] bring in to you as a final report the

[12:49] pros and the cons of um

[12:53] developing a new regional system as well

[12:56] as how that would uh be a benefit um if

[13:00] you wanted to look at the innovation

[13:02] grant as well. So, um we can

[13:06] [clears throat] certainly answer any

[13:06] questions that you have now or go

[13:09] through any part of the proposal that

[13:11] you would like to.

[13:12] » Does anybody have any questions for

[13:14] Dana?

[13:16] want to check in on on timeline wise.

[13:18] Dana, we had talked that a final report

[13:20] could be available sometime maybe mid

[13:23] November.

[13:25] » Yes.

[13:26] » Okay.

[13:26] » We're we're trying to get it done as

[13:28] quick as possible. Uh that's so it gives

[13:30] you all the information that you have

[13:32] without rushing through but to get it

[13:34] done in a timely fashion so that you

[13:36] could be eligible for this this the uh

[13:38] first phase of the second round of the

[13:40] innovation grant.

[13:41] » Sure. And then um I if the committee

[13:45] decides to go forward with the

[13:46] consulting services, it'd be something

[13:48] that would be started right away or is

[13:50] there a timeline for starting?

[13:55] » Is that question to me?

[13:57] » Yes.

[13:57] » Yes,

[13:58] » We could start right away.

[13:59] » Okay, thank you.

[14:00] » And that would be I spoke to Megan that

[14:03] be a joint effort between us and

[14:06] Marquette County.

[14:06] » Yep. So it would be cost shared between

[14:08] the two counties.

[14:11] So the total cost would be shared.

[14:13] » Correct.

[14:15] » Does anybody else have any?

[14:18] » Any questions?

[14:21] » Are they agreeing to uh the third half

[14:24] or we just kind of assuming they are?

[14:25] » No, they've agreed to it.

[14:31] » Okay.

[14:32] » All right. Well, thank you, Dana. Um

[14:35] with that then I would look for um any

[14:39] in a motion to um to move forward with a

[14:42] consulting for evaluation of the EMS

[14:46] between Sher County and Marquette County

[14:49] or look at the look at our system we

[14:52] have now or else look at the um joining

[14:56] together with Marquette County. So is

[14:58] there a motion

[15:01] for the consultation?

[15:03] » Uh Mr. chairman. Motion to approve.

[15:06] » Okay. So, we have a motion uh by Urban.

[15:09] Is there a second?

[15:12] » Sec. Second by Johnson. Um is there any

[15:15] discussion?

[15:16] Anybody have any concerns?

[15:20] » Um I guess I'm I'm I'd like to feel the

[15:24] committee out on on what everybody is

[15:27] really thinking about the future of EMS.

[15:29] Um, and I'm only asking this because

[15:32] I've had some discussion with some of

[15:34] the the people that I serve um over in

[15:36] my area, especially uh uh yesterday I

[15:39] was in the town of Bloomfield's um uh

[15:42] town town meeting uh last night for

[15:46] theirs and I just was updating them on

[15:48] some of the county things that I do

[15:49] because they're long ways away from my

[15:52] own salation.

[15:55] I told him about um what we were doing

[15:58] with EMS service and and I got I got

[16:02] deep concerns um especially from the

[16:04] town chair over there um

[16:08] making sure that um we don't open a door

[16:13] that the devil is standing behind, you

[16:15] know, um and go someplace

[16:18] and make some mistakes that we can't

[16:20] turn to back on. um uh the people over

[16:23] in in that part of the county are very

[16:25] thankful for the MS service that we have

[16:28] and and really do not want us to to make

[16:31] a mistake on this. So, I just wanted to

[16:33] express that to the committee that that

[16:35] the people that I've been talking to um

[16:38] are concerned that they are concerned to

[16:40] make sure that we make the right

[16:41] decision in this. So, I just wanted to

[16:44] share that with the committee.

[16:46] I agree with you. I mean, that's what

[16:48] I've been getting too is um people are

[16:51] cautious because we do have quitting EMS

[16:54] in our county. Um but I guess what I'm

[16:57] looking at with the with the

[16:59] consultation is is um looking at doing

[17:02] our due diligence on something like

[17:04] that. That's I guess where I I feel it's

[17:06] it's um

[17:09] you know there's enough enough unknowns

[17:11] that I think we owe it to ourselves and

[17:16] to the county to to evaluate it. Um but

[17:20] I mean that's that's what I'm getting as

[17:22] well is that uh

[17:26] they they like our service now. They

[17:28] don't they don't want to see it uh um

[17:31] become something it's you know something

[17:32] worse. Well, I think that's the whole

[17:34] purpose of the uh of this of the study

[17:37] here

[17:38] » Uh for the consultation so that we do do

[17:42] our due diligence and that um it's not a

[17:45] just because we're going to do this.

[17:46] It's not a foregone conclusion that

[17:47] we're going to go down that path and

[17:49] that's the whole point of it just to

[17:50] make sure that we're going down the the

[17:52] best path for era.

[17:54] Yeah, I think last thing is too um and

[17:59] you mentioned everything I know which is

[18:01] not a lot about our EMS uh services is

[18:05] that we're uh as as a county we're very

[18:09] efficient and effective in our services

[18:11] that we provide. Um, and so I wanted to

[18:15] be very careful about our messaging last

[18:18] night uh to the gallery that was here

[18:21] and to every EMS provider

[18:24] [clears throat]

[18:24] or employee um that there's nothing

[18:30] wrong with the current state of our EMS,

[18:33] but what we're what we shouldn't do is

[18:37] shut down and looking at being in a

[18:39] better position.

[18:41] And and that's where uh what Jason said,

[18:45] the consultation uh comes in and um and

[18:49] what we're hoping to get is not a

[18:51] prediction of the future, but a good

[18:54] idea of where we might be

[18:58] and giving us good information to make

[19:00] the best decision moving forward.

[19:05] » Okay.

[19:08] » I I had one thing if I don't if I can.

[19:10] Yeah.

[19:11] » Um just and I don't know if this is on

[19:14] the consultant part of it or not, but if

[19:18] they're consulting um finding out some

[19:21] of the questions that I've heard from

[19:23] the the EMR groups and and everything

[19:25] like that. One of them was um what's

[19:28] going to happen with EMRs with Washer

[19:31] County with county having EMRs but

[19:34] Marquette County not having EMRs? Is

[19:37] that going to change anything that way?

[19:40] just a question that that they have um

[19:43] with that and then the other one was um

[19:47] with our med control that we have in Wer

[19:50] County which he is here today Dr. Bas um

[19:55] what does that look like? I mean is it

[19:57] Bera do their own Marquette do their own

[19:59] or is it all one and how that would all

[20:02] [clears throat] um how that all would be

[20:04] because not just EMS uses med control

[20:08] but our EMRs use med control too and

[20:12] with having somebody within the county

[20:14] that does it it makes it a lot easier

[20:17] and a lot more accessible to us to have

[20:19] that. So, I don't know what the

[20:21] discussions are on that, but them are

[20:22] just questions that I've that I've had

[20:24] and I don't know if anybody can answer

[20:25] it, but

[20:26] » Well, Dana, you've done some of these

[20:28] before. Is that something you take into

[20:31] account as well?

[20:32] » Yeah. Yes. Great questions and that's

[20:35] absolutely something we take into place

[20:37] and many many other places we're

[20:39] concerned about uh EMRs or emergency

[20:42] medical responders. Uh and just to let

[20:44] you know, we in every study that we've

[20:47] done, in every project we've worked on,

[20:48] we have always recommended to work with

[20:52] and enhance the relationship with EMR

[20:54] groups. Uh we have never once

[20:57] recommended uh to do away with them. Uh

[21:00] they are they provide an invaluable

[21:03] service to all their communities. Uh in

[21:07] fact and and we don't know all the

[21:09] nuances between Wer County and Marquette

[21:11] County. Uh but I would predict that we

[21:15] would uh still support uh the EMR

[21:18] services as well as say what can you do

[21:19] to enhance it and even um if it's not

[21:23] existent in Marquette County, here's

[21:25] some ideas on what you could do to um

[21:28] enhance that service or provide that

[21:29] service in Marquette County as well. As

[21:33] far as medical direction, that's a a

[21:34] very good point as well.

[21:36] You don't want to split up medical

[21:38] direction uh between two different

[21:40] entities. Uh so if you uh again we're

[21:44] very cautious to say if you decide

[21:46] because there have been no decisions

[21:47] made yet uh if there's a decide uh

[21:50] decision for any merger between the

[21:52] groups um you know the recommendation

[21:55] will always be that you have a medical

[21:57] director or a co-med director um for the

[22:01] ambulance service that is the same as

[22:03] the EMR agencies. uh if you get two

[22:06] different medical directors at two

[22:08] different um uh types of services, one

[22:11] transporting, one non-transporting, it

[22:13] it can cause some problems. Uh so we

[22:16] would always recommend maintaining uh

[22:19] either a single director or co-director

[22:22] uh of the transporting amount service as

[22:25] well as the non-transporting EMR

[22:27] agencies.

[22:31] » Very good. Um, and just just so we're uh

[22:35] we all know what we're voting for. So,

[22:38] they're going to be looking at our EMS

[22:40] as a standalone EMS and they're also

[22:43] going to look at potential of um joining

[22:46] us with Marquette. So, it's not just

[22:48] just the second one and we both on their

[22:51] own. So, um with that, is there any

[22:54] other discussion

[22:59] here? Do you mind if I uh pipe in? This

[23:01] is Rob from Marquette County.

[23:02] » Yes. Go ahead, Rob.

[23:04] » So, I just want to clarify, we do work

[23:06] with uh EMR groups. Uh we have five EMR

[23:09] groups um that are currently licensed um

[23:11] as EMRs under Marquette County's uh

[23:13] medical direction. Um we have

[23:15] Briggsville, Endeavor, uh Springfield,

[23:17] Harrisville,

[23:19] um and uh Newton. So, we do have uh

[23:22] several uh first responder groups that

[23:24] are affiliated with our service.

[23:28] Okay.

[23:28] » All right. Very good. Thank you.

[23:31] Um is there any other discussion from

[23:33] anybody?

[23:36] Okay. Uh hearing none then we'll proceed

[23:38] to vote. Um all in favor of um hiring a

[23:42] consultant and uh this group with in

[23:46] this uh consultation along with

[23:49] Marquette County uh signify by saying I

[23:53] oppose. All right. So that passes. All

[23:56] right. Thank you.

[23:58] All right. So then we'll move on to the

[24:01] command and communications report.

[24:04] » All right. The um for committees we have

[24:07] an EMPG work group for the state.

[24:09] Everything's been pushed through. The

[24:10] notice of funding came through for 2026

[24:12] and 2027 will be rolled out shortly. Um

[24:15] that's been applied for and I'm assuming

[24:18] all goes well. We'll get that grant

[24:20] again

[24:24] grant submitted again that we've gotten

[24:28] assuming we'll be again this year for 20

[24:31] or I'm sorry for 2027.

[24:33] Uh continue to update policy and the SOP

[24:35] SOGS for the communication center and um

[24:39] and I think I reported this last month

[24:40] but the strategic plan is complete and

[24:42] we're we're trying to follow or we are

[24:44] following that and I'll I'll update that

[24:46] in just a second. uh upcoming trainings.

[24:48] I have a mass casualty incident

[24:50] responder training. We did offer this in

[24:51] the spring and now we have another one

[24:53] coming up in November. This one's going

[24:54] to be held on on a Saturday to hopefully

[24:57] get some firefighters and EMRs through

[25:00] attend um that because it will be on a

[25:03] Saturday instead of a weekday. And then

[25:04] we have our practical application for

[25:06] incident command system, the basic

[25:08] course and that's in February and

[25:10] that'll be here at the government

[25:11] center.

[25:13] Uh general update, we did have um a

[25:16] tornado warning issued for Wera County

[25:19] on August 18th.

[25:21] This radar indicated it actually never

[25:23] touched down. We did have some sheer

[25:25] winds that came with that and it

[25:27] affected some of the towns in our in our

[25:30] county. I'm working with those towns to

[25:31] get some numbers to see if we can

[25:33] qualify for the Wisconsin disaster fund

[25:36] and hopefully get some of those costs

[25:38] recouped. It's recouped back at 70%. So

[25:40] it wouldn't it wouldn't um pay them in

[25:42] full, but it would get get those towns

[25:44] some money for the debris clean up and

[25:46] any [clears throat] any other damages

[25:48] they had. Um I just want to note that

[25:51] dispatch had hundreds of calls during

[25:54] that storm and they did a fantastic job

[25:56] at logging everything and and getting

[25:59] responders to the right areas and

[26:02] power lines down everywhere. It was it

[26:04] was really good. They kept track of

[26:05] everything. They got us all on track and

[26:06] kept us going where we needed to go. So,

[26:08] I I wanted to commend them like publicly

[26:11] like this to say they did an excellent

[26:12] job. On the next couple pages, you'll

[26:15] see where I'm at for budget wise. You'll

[26:18] the first one you'll see his emergency

[26:20] managements.

[26:22] Everything's on track there. Doesn't put

[26:24] anything out of the ordinary. You'll see

[26:26] the highlighted areas. Those are the

[26:27] grants that come in. Those will be

[26:30] reimbured

[26:31] February, March, we're hoping um April

[26:35] at the latest. Um, so that's just

[26:37] anticipated money coming in. They have

[26:38] been awarded, so I don't know why they

[26:40] wouldn't come in. The next page is our

[26:44] communications budget. Again, everything

[26:46] looks to be on track there. Nothing

[26:48] looks out of the ordinary. Um, and it

[26:50] appears that everything will be coming

[26:52] in wherever we want it.

[26:55] The uh the last page is our strategic

[26:58] plan, and I just wanted to highlight a

[27:00] few things on there. We are have our

[27:02] one-on- ones with our dispatchers over

[27:05] the next two weeks. Uh I did send out a

[27:08] kind of a premeating questionnaire for

[27:10] them so when we have the meetings are

[27:12] more productive

[27:14] get their needs met or at least hear

[27:16] their needs.

[27:18] Um that's all I have.

[27:21] Okay. Very good. Is there any questions

[27:23] for Alan?

[27:28] Uh there's no unfinished business. new

[27:30] business emergency management and

[27:32] communications um discussion hostile

[27:34] action onou with burning county.

[27:38] » So this uh this is just anou we wanted

[27:40] to put in place. Our current backup um

[27:43] to if our dispatch center ever went down

[27:44] is Green Lake County and that will

[27:46] remain the same. They're our first

[27:48] choice. The second choice would be

[27:49] regionally if something happened in Wer

[27:52] County it could affect Green Lake County

[27:53] as well. So that's if both PAPs went

[27:55] down, then we'd reach out to Vernon

[27:57] County to be our kind of our backup to

[27:59] the backup. They're a few counties away,

[28:01] so we would think they wouldn't be as

[28:04] affected as we are or Green Lake County.

[28:06] Um, so that was kind of Vernon County

[28:08] originally reached out and we thought

[28:09] it'd be a great idea to also do the same

[28:12] and have them be our backup to the

[28:13] backup. So

[28:17] » All right, sounds good. Um, would anyone

[28:20] want to make a motion that we go ahead

[28:22] with?

[28:26] Motion by Peterman. Second.

[28:31] Second by Peterson. Any discussion? Any

[28:34] questions? Okay. Hearing none. All in

[28:36] favor?

[28:38] » Oppos? Right. So, that passes. All

[28:40] right. Very good. We'll move then into

[28:42] the sheriff's report

[28:47] center numbers.

[28:49] In August we had 11 false alarms.

[28:56] Um 16 outer county transports

[29:00] and an average of 430 people came

[29:04] through a day in August.

[29:08] » Very good.

[29:10] Uh,

[29:14] » Good evening. [clears throat] Uh,

[29:15] speaking out jail, uh, we have kept an

[29:18] average population of about 83 84. Uh,

[29:23] that population with, uh, approximately

[29:26] eight on the EMP services that we

[29:29] provide along with the 25 state inmates

[29:33] um, has held us in and around that 80 to

[29:36] 90 number total. Um as you can see in

[29:39] the flyer I gave that PPE and has

[29:43] provided that we do have the 25 state

[29:47] inmates which provide the total amount

[29:50] there for that income um along with the

[29:53] food and medical services that we have

[29:55] to provide um knocks us into that net

[29:58] balance of about the 35 and a half. Um

[30:03] along with that uh we have been working

[30:05] on a remodel for the jail. Um that is

[30:09] for both of our control rooms and at

[30:11] some point the the break room as well uh

[30:14] to better provide more efficient work

[30:18] space. Um we are

[30:22] approximately twothirds of the way

[30:23] through it. Um all the carpeting is in.

[30:26] Uh housing control is essentially up and

[30:29] running. Master Control just got

[30:31] furniture today. Uh Ashton was gracious

[30:34] enough to come over and help move some

[30:36] stuff around to make it more efficient.

[30:39] Um we still have some minor tweaks to

[30:42] do, but uh should be up and running

[30:44] fully short.

[30:46] » Okay, any questions? Um with the uh

[30:50] state in

[30:52] um the income and the food and medical

[30:56] are for constructors is that assumed

[30:59] that there wasn't much turnover as far

[31:02] as in state out.

[31:05] » Yes, that's correct. Uh we've held the

[31:07] 25 uh for the last uh two months. We are

[31:11] now starting to get into the point where

[31:13] rotation comes through. Um, and it's

[31:16] roughly 6 months for the females from

[31:18] TCI and about 9 months for the DPS. Um,

[31:24] that being said, we're starting to hit

[31:26] the turnover points for all the ones

[31:27] that we have. So, we will start probably

[31:30] seeing fluctuation in those numbers. Um,

[31:33] it is more dependent on them and how

[31:35] they transport. Uh currently we actually

[31:38] have 24 um due to a medical uh event

[31:42] with one of the females that was coming

[31:44] from T. So we ended up short. If I don't

[31:47] hear back anything about the new

[31:49] transport, uh I will be reaching out I

[31:52] believe Friday to try and evaluate where

[31:54] we are and see about getting a new

[31:56] transport in.

[31:58] » Thank you.

[32:01] I have another question. Any discussion

[32:04] about more inmates

[32:08] at 25? You good at 25?

[32:12] » We discussed that with um Megan a couple

[32:15] days ago or maybe it was yesterday. I

[32:16] try yesterday. So something we uh

[32:19] something we're discussing uh there's if

[32:22] you note on the

[32:25] on the financials there, there is a

[32:26] sweet spot that we like to be at. Um

[32:29] it's one of those things like if we get

[32:30] if we're approaching the 95 to 100 uh

[32:33] because our contracts

[32:37] 85 um when we exceed that we start

[32:39] getting dinged for extra charges. So

[32:41] then actually by taking more we're

[32:44] actually making less. So we could take

[32:46] another we could technically take

[32:48] another five from uh the state that

[32:50] would bring us in more revenue but we're

[32:52] going to get dinged on the backside on

[32:54] it. So, I really it's one of those

[32:57] things where I'm really watching it and

[32:59] uh there's potential [clears throat] for

[33:00] it because we discussed it. Uh we we

[33:02] have room uh but it just is going to if

[33:06] it's worth doing or not on the bottom

[33:09] line.

[33:12] » Any other questions?

[33:14] » Right.

[33:16] I have a lot. Okay.

[33:19] » Guess I have any place to go. I'm sorry.

[33:21] Um first of all on the financials

[33:24] just just so we're aware and I just

[33:25] verified it. Um it does say May 2026,

[33:29] but it's not May 2026. It's August. I

[33:32] would have a heart attack as you guys

[33:33] probably would too. Um that was only the

[33:36] the funds in May. But uh we're looking

[33:38] good through um through our numbers

[33:40] there for today. Is there any questions

[33:43] on that?

[33:49] Not I'll move on um patrol side. We have

[33:53] three recruits graduating in

[33:55] approximately a month uh from academy.

[33:58] They're all doing really well scoring in

[34:00] 90s in their writtens. I think they're

[34:04] through phase two in their writtens.

[34:05] There's three phases. So they have one

[34:07] more written. They all passed their

[34:09] final physical tests with flying colors.

[34:13] So, um, a good group coming through

[34:16] and again in October when they graduate

[34:18] a couple days later, we'll start them

[34:19] all on field training. Currently have

[34:23] Ron Pi in field training. Been field

[34:25] training for around three weeks now.

[34:26] He's doing very well.

[34:29] And again, he's he's a he's a little bit

[34:31] different creature because he's been

[34:32] here 30 years. So, it's a little bit

[34:34] smoother transition for him.

[34:39] patrol as a whole has been very busy

[34:41] with OWIs and crashes. Uh we've had a

[34:43] lot of crashes, a lot of OWI, a lot of

[34:45] drugs. Uh just the last few weeks, a lot

[34:47] of referrals to the DA

[34:50] and uh again, we're still short staffed

[34:52] there. So, they're all they're all uh

[34:54] working a lot of extra hours, but we're

[34:57] covering shifts and and uh have some

[34:59] good things happening. So, regards to

[35:02] vehicles, talked to Megan yesterday on

[35:04] that. We've had we've had a poor week on

[35:06] vehicles. Um, both of my I I have a

[35:09] couple high mile vehicles. Uh, one has

[35:11] issues. Uh, the other one

[35:13] probably has a uh going to be a blown

[35:15] engine. Uh, good news with that I found

[35:18] out today that I've been working on.

[35:20] Hopefully, one of the the engine issues

[35:22] is going to be covered under um

[35:25] basically under under a warranty that

[35:27] they have for for a recall. So, that

[35:30] would be great news because that's

[35:32] probably about eight $9,000.

[35:35] So, um, we're going to find out on that,

[35:37] but the the preliminary is that we're

[35:39] going to hope to get a new engine out of

[35:41] it without a whole lot of cost.

[35:43] Detective Bureau, um, very busy.

[35:46] Obviously, you guys are aware we've had

[35:48] multiple homicides.

[35:50] Those will continue to be busy all the

[35:52] way up through

[35:55] basically through court. Uh, court could

[35:57] be out two years on these. A lot of you

[35:59] have prelims, you have uh motion

[36:02] hearings.

[36:04] So there there's a lot of lot that go

[36:06] into those. Uh we just had a possible

[36:08] suicide missing person case yesterday

[36:11] where an individual didn't show up to a

[36:12] jury trial in Green Lake. Um so that's

[36:16] taking up a lot of time right now as

[36:18] well trying to figure out if that

[36:19] individual sconded and uh just decided

[36:23] not to show up and left or if he decided

[36:25] to harm himself.

[36:28] On a brighter note, back to school bash.

[36:30] Uh the stuff the squad actually turned

[36:34] out fairly well. I give credit to all

[36:36] the administrative staff, Darlene, uh

[36:39] Taylor and Caitlyn. They handled it and

[36:41] did it all. I helped pound a steak in.

[36:43] That was about it. Um but they crushed

[36:45] it. A lot of people dropped some

[36:48] supplies off that they'll be

[36:49] distributing there.

[36:51] So that was again a success this year.

[36:55] And then I was just uh asked to discuss

[36:57] block a little bit because I know that's

[36:59] been a hot topic. Um major major

[37:02] discussion with uh a lot of agencies and

[37:04] a lot of uh

[37:07] a lot of communities in the area.

[37:09] Unfortunately, Wisconsin has seen a

[37:12] uptick. We're we're like the hot state

[37:15] right now. Much like Minnesota was the

[37:17] hot state for a lot of political

[37:19] activity, you know, a few years ago.

[37:21] We're also the the hot state for for

[37:23] this flock debate where um again

[37:27] unfortunately I think a lot of it has

[37:28] come down to being a lot of white noise

[37:30] and a lot of politics involved versus

[37:33] fact. Um just wanted to put it on record

[37:36] and and have everybody know. Um you know

[37:38] I we did a a joint statement with uh

[37:42] Chief Mott that was put in the Argus. Um

[37:45] I did post that to website as well uh on

[37:48] Jesse uh Urban's uh urging and and

[37:52] knowledge uh was able to uh do some

[37:54] things on our website uh to put some

[37:59] additional information as to the facts

[38:01] of block out there. Um so hopefully

[38:03] that's going to help with the community.

[38:06] I am a big proponent and I will always

[38:10] advocate for it and I will not back down

[38:12] advocating for it because I know it

[38:14] works and I know it has worked here and

[38:17] um it's helped an 8-year-old child come

[38:20] home that that uh was not sexually

[38:22] assaulted because of it that was states

[38:24] away in Oklahoma was found with flock.

[38:27] We found um elderly individuals with

[38:30] flock uh that were missing.

[38:33] If used correctly, it is a tool that

[38:37] again is is is unbelievable. I think

[38:39] I've talked to each one of you

[38:41] personally a little bit. Um I could go

[38:43] on and on and on for 30, 40, 50 minutes

[38:45] and hours actually. But um the issues

[38:50] that are out there that people are

[38:51] talking about, most of them again are

[38:53] not factual, which again the Argus

[38:55] article was not factual and was

[38:57] corrected. Uh there's anti-flock

[38:59] individuals that are are out there

[39:01] pushing the it's not constitutional

[39:04] um discussion.

[39:06] As of right now it is constitutional. So

[39:09] I I told everybody here and I I'll again

[39:12] stand by it. If it ever becomes

[39:14] unconstitutional and we have to pull

[39:16] them, we will obviously follow the law

[39:18] and pull them. Uh but I've been

[39:21] following the same case law as long as

[39:22] I've been in this business for 18 years

[39:24] now. um you're in the business before.

[39:28] Uh there's case law that we are allowed

[39:29] to run license plates to look for wanted

[39:32] subjects to look for people with um

[39:35] driving history. They're revoked,

[39:36] suspended. We can legally make stops on

[39:39] those. That's what's happening. That's

[39:41] the law. Um I've been

[39:45] my entire career. I run hundreds of them

[39:48] a night u visually um as we're driving

[39:52] as as a vehicle's driving by as I'm

[39:54] parked in in gas stations uh wherever we

[39:58] run those license plates and we find bad

[40:01] people that are in our community that

[40:02] need to go to jail. That law is not

[40:05] going to change. Again, there's there's

[40:07] case law out there. Ruth Ruth's aware of

[40:09] it. U we we have it's in the courts.

[40:12] It's it's solid. Um, just because a

[40:17] block camera is picking up that license

[40:19] plate now that we are able to run

[40:22] doesn't change things. It's the only

[40:25] thing that a camera is doing is picking

[40:26] up a license plate. It's not picking up

[40:29] human beings. It doesn't track human

[40:31] beings. Picks up license plates only.

[40:33] The rear of a car and a tag. And then in

[40:36] order for that tape to be run to get any

[40:38] personal information has to be run by a

[40:40] subject who has the authority to do it

[40:42] which are the cops that have authority

[40:44] through time systems or Stillman uh that

[40:48] then goes to the DOT and returns to the

[40:50] state. So nothing has changed

[40:54] other than the white noise and the

[40:56] rhetoric that's out there right now.

[40:58] We've been running plates for years and

[41:01] years and years. Our vehicles have been

[41:04] running plates for years and years and

[41:06] years because we have license plate

[41:07] readers and vehicles.

[41:09] That that has not ever been an issue. Um

[41:13] there there's there's sheriffs out there

[41:15] right now that are

[41:19] upset because the politics are taking

[41:21] over and people are looking for votes,

[41:23] not the safety of the citizens. That's

[41:25] wrong.

[41:27] Um, I will advocate for it because

[41:29] again, it is something that

[41:32] » Unless you're doing something wrong,

[41:34] should have no issues with it.

[41:38] » Scott, just a quick question because

[41:40] I've been asked multiple times about

[41:44] slot cameras, my opinion, on and on, and

[41:48] I I hear the concerns coming from two

[41:51] avenues.

[41:52] Uh, the first one I can quickly put down

[41:55] because any um tool, any technology that

[42:00] law enforcement has to help them do

[42:02] their job is only as effective and as

[42:06] good as the policies and the people,

[42:08] right?

[42:09] » Um, and so, you know, so you get the

[42:11] concern of, you know, what if so and so

[42:13] is, you know, an officer's stalking a

[42:16] girlfriend or whatever else, right?

[42:19] Um and that's but then the other concern

[42:22] is uh flock as a corporation as an

[42:26] entity. Um that one I can't really speak

[42:29] to. I I don't know much about Sure. And

[42:33] I can give you good information on that.

[42:35] So you can go back to your constituents

[42:36] because that that's where that's where

[42:38] the the concerns really come out um that

[42:41] there's a lot of stuff floating around

[42:43] that's untrue. Um, first of all, uh,

[42:46] there there's there's two major players

[42:47] in the game right now. There's Flock and

[42:49] Axon. Okay, everybody's familiar with

[42:51] Axon, which is Motorola, which is a

[42:53] multi-billion billion dollar company,

[42:56] right? Flock right now dominates the um,

[43:00] the camera market right now for for this

[43:02] system. Axon is trying to get into the

[43:04] camera market as more as much as they

[43:07] can. um to to let you know that the

[43:11] individuals that are going away from

[43:13] flock, they're not going away from

[43:15] license plate readers. So, just so

[43:18] everybody's aware of that, there will

[43:20] always be a license plate reader as long

[43:22] as it's constitutional and it's legal.

[43:24] They're just going to a different

[43:25] company potentially because of the white

[43:27] noise out there. So,

[43:30] Axon is the other big player. They're

[43:33] reading like Manasha, Nina.

[43:34] » Yeah, just Nina Manasha. I saw the news

[43:37] today. They're doing away with flock and

[43:39] everybody's happy that with that but

[43:41] then quietly they say correct but we're

[43:43] replacing it with Axon.

[43:45] » Correct.

[43:46] » Axon uh has actually more AI features

[43:50] than Flock. Um the difference between

[43:55] the the the two companies Axon is an

[43:59] internal. So only your your like the

[44:03] sheriff's department say county

[44:04] sheriff's department will have the

[44:05] cameras only with sheriff county

[44:07] sheriff's department can access those

[44:08] cameras that defeats the purpose of most

[44:12] of this because we would have never

[44:14] found the girl in Oklahoma. It's the

[44:16] sharing that that allows that makes this

[44:18] thing such a beautiful thing between

[44:20] agencies. Um now is Axeline going to

[44:24] stay doing that? I don't believe they

[44:25] are. I believe soon as the white noise

[44:27] is over they're going to be flowing

[44:29] through this. um they actually have

[44:31] facial recognition built into their

[44:33] systems different than than we have with

[44:35] with Glock. Glock is not a facial

[44:37] recognition. These cameras are not

[44:40] there. There is certain cameras that

[44:41] Glock will sell um that do a facial

[44:45] recognition and are designed for parks

[44:47] and outdoor events, things like that. We

[44:49] don't have any of those. Ours are

[44:51] strictly license plate readers. So yes

[44:53] um there there is

[44:57] you know this poll of you know what are

[44:58] the differences in the companies um the

[45:02] the concern with FL that there was

[45:04] something going out there that they're

[45:05] selling our data [clears throat] that we

[45:07] have that is false um all of our data is

[45:10] encrypted um from the camera up to the

[45:13] cloud it stays in the cloud encrypted

[45:14] and it only comes down it's retrieved by

[45:16] us um they are not selling it to anybody

[45:19] can sell it to anybody not contractual

[45:22] uh the information that it was being

[45:24] sold to somebody

[45:26] is because and this is where this is

[45:29] where the facts come in. The company

[45:31] itself has an agreement uh with

[45:36] researchers

[45:38] um to use our data that we can you that

[45:42] can be used to help assist in

[45:45] identifying future cars. So, u like like

[45:50] uh Tesla

[45:52] um or the Cybert truck. The Cybert truck

[45:53] is a great example. Cybertruck to took

[45:56] 200,000 pictures in order for flock to

[46:00] have a near 100%

[46:03] recognized

[46:04] system. So two it need 200,000 different

[46:08] photos from different angles, top,

[46:09] sides, corners, all around um distances

[46:14] in order for that to be put in block to

[46:17] say, okay, if we put in we want a Cybert

[46:19] truck that's gray um in this model year

[46:23] that then when that returns to us, it's

[46:27] a it's a high probability that it's that

[46:28] vehicle. We still have to do our due

[46:30] diligence to find that out, okay? But

[46:32] they can't just put in their system, one

[46:35] picture of a cyber truck from one angle

[46:37] that they took off off either anywhere

[46:41] else and say it's going to be accurate.

[46:43] So it's not being sold outside to other

[46:47] firms to sell you things. Now that being

[46:49] said,

[46:51] all the AI that's everywhere else is

[46:53] being sold that everybody is is not

[46:56] worried about. Every time you go to

[46:58] Walmart, every time you go to Menard's,

[47:00] Home Depot, Lowe's, you go through the

[47:02] Lowe's parking lot, there's 500 blocks

[47:03] cameras parked in there. Same with same

[47:05] with Menards. Same with um Walmart. Now,

[47:09] when you go to Walmart, you go to

[47:10] Menards, those those places when they

[47:12] have cameras in there are actually

[47:14] capturing you. They're actually

[47:16] capturing you and capturing you swiping

[47:18] your credit card. So, they know who you

[47:19] are. They identify you as a person. and

[47:22] then they can send you coupons as to

[47:25] what you're buying because they know

[47:26] what you're buying. So, we want to talk

[47:27] about invasion of privacy and concerns

[47:30] and not being unconstitutional.

[47:32] That that is a privacy issue. Okay? Our

[47:36] cameras take pictures of your license

[47:37] plate just like my eyes do when I'm

[47:39] sitting out there watching the cars come

[47:41] by or going through a parking lot. I I

[47:44] take a mental picture of all your

[47:45] license plates. The only thing we're

[47:46] doing is we're helping basically making

[47:49] a deterrent to the county. don't come

[47:52] here and commit crimes because if you do

[47:54] we have a way to find you.

[47:57] So, um t you know it's it's it's

[48:01] basically right now to be honest with

[48:02] you it's politics and it's a fight over

[48:05] two giants that are trying to be number

[48:07] one and there's stuff that's being spun

[48:09] out there that isn't true. Uh when you

[48:11] learn the facts,

[48:13] you know, it's it's very frustrating to

[48:15] see what's happening. Um the the there's

[48:18] there's things called a penetration test

[48:20] just so everybody's aware too. And I'm

[48:21] going to throw this out here. Flack

[48:24] flack camera system uses a company

[48:27] called Bishop Fox.

[48:30] 26 out of the out of the 100 top 100

[48:34] companies uses Bishop Fox. Eight out of

[48:37] 10 of the top tech companies uses Bishop

[48:40] Fox. What Bishop Fox is, it's a

[48:42] penetration company. Their whole job is

[48:45] to try to

[48:47] break down these system to try to find

[48:50] to basically try to break into them and

[48:52] pull data.

[48:54] So Flock hire them and uses them to make

[48:57] sure that their data is secure.

[49:00] So

[49:02] the biggest issue here guys, I'm going

[49:04] be I mean quite frank is is there there

[49:06] are some agencies out there that are

[49:09] probably loose in their policy and

[49:11] that's an issue that's issue that the

[49:13] sheriffs are having um and that maybe

[49:15] some of the states are having. It's not

[49:19] the technology itself. The techn is

[49:21] fantastic. It's it's the individuals

[49:24] that are using it and and not

[49:25] controlling [clears throat] it.

[49:27] uh if you put the controls on it like we

[49:29] have with policy with audits

[49:32] uh I audit it once a month every month

[49:35] and or more if there would be an issue

[49:38] it's also internally audited which um

[49:41] right now is one of the few or the only

[49:44] that has an AI generated internal audit

[49:46] system too that looks for

[49:50] activity from individuals that might be

[49:53] something they shouldn't be doing. So,

[49:55] their system actually looks for that,

[49:56] notifies me if there's somebody that

[49:58] would be doing something. Um, I require

[50:01] all cases to have a case number, uh, to

[50:05] have a reason why you're doing it and to

[50:07] be attached to a case. So, any anytime

[50:10] any license plate is ran through the

[50:13] system, we have a case that is pulled

[50:15] through Stillman that documents what

[50:17] we're doing. It's not just you're not

[50:19] going to sit there and you're going to

[50:20] run 500 plates through the system a

[50:22] night. has to be for drugs, for missing

[50:25] person, suicide, any of these things.

[50:27] And then it has to have a case attached

[50:29] to it. So, it's it's very well reigned

[50:32] in, it's very well restricted. I also

[50:34] restrict and control who can see our

[50:36] plates. So, I don't allow out of state.

[50:40] And I right now have it set up for 100

[50:41] mile radius for acceptance. If you want

[50:44] to be accepted, you're outside of our

[50:46] 100 mile radius. You have to send a

[50:47] request to me. I review it to see why

[50:50] what we're doing and then I can accept

[50:52] or reject it. I've had requests from

[50:54] Colorado. I've had requests from

[50:56] Florida. I no I mean we're rejecting

[50:58] those. There's no reason for somebody

[51:00] Florida needs to be looking at license

[51:01] plates from Sher County. Okay. But our

[51:04] surrounding communities definitely do

[51:05] because they have the same bad actors

[51:07] that we have in our in our community.

[51:14] » Very good. Thank you, Scott. Appreciate

[51:16] that. Can I ask you a question? Sure. Go

[51:17] ahead.

[51:17] » Uh, so say say you had a deputy that was

[51:22] misusing the flot system, what what

[51:25] would the disciplinary action be in a

[51:28] case like that?

[51:29] » I guess it would obviously depend on it,

[51:31] but you've seen in the news what's going

[51:32] to probably happen to most of these. Um,

[51:36] my my again, it's up to the sheriff

[51:39] because I'm I'm not in control. my

[51:41] personal opinion, if you're misusing FL

[51:43] with all the the individuals that we

[51:45] have for all the things that are going

[51:47] on right now, um you're not going to be

[51:49] here anymore.

[51:53] » And I think there's no reason for that.

[51:55] Uh and again, and it can be criminal.

[51:58] So, not only can it be a policy internal

[52:01] violation where you would be terminated

[52:03] from our department, they're all aware

[52:05] of that. They're all aware that I

[52:06] monitor it. Um, it records the

[52:10] individual that's doing it, the date and

[52:11] time, again, the case numbers. If if

[52:14] there's any discrepancies there, they

[52:16] all are very aware that they are not

[52:18] going to have a job in Masher County.

[52:20] And depending on the circumstances, they

[52:22] can also be charged criminally.

[52:25] I think too, we got to look at it like

[52:28] like George said, it's another tool in

[52:30] the toolbox. And in your profession,

[52:32] there's there's many tools that you use

[52:35] from vehicles to weapons to there's a

[52:37] lot of tool tools that you're

[52:40] responsible for. And so I think it

[52:42] probably stands to reason with any one

[52:44] of those would be kind of the same.

[52:46] » That's the issue. And that's, you know,

[52:48] we're picking on flock right now because

[52:49] again, I think a lot of it politics and

[52:51] financial. The reality is I I I can give

[52:55] you another 12 different tools that we

[52:56] have that are way more invasive than a

[52:59] block

[53:00] that I can I can find I know everything

[53:04] about you guys to the day you were born

[53:07] » Secret

[53:11] use of resources too because I mean you

[53:14] couldn't have you couldn't put enough uh

[53:16] deputies on the streets to cover the

[53:18] areas that FL currently covers which are

[53:21] essentially doing the same Okay. For

[53:22] just another set of eyes, correct for

[53:24] for

[53:26] » Roughly 3,000 a unit right now. Uh if we

[53:28] have eight units out there, you have

[53:30] eight other deputies out there. Uh and

[53:32] and again, it's it's already proven.

[53:34] Chief Mott's very adamant about um

[53:39] about having it and keeping it. Um we we

[53:42] both are uh we've both seen it work. Uh

[53:45] and again, I

[53:47] I I struggle with with those that don't.

[53:49] I always say, you know, if you have a

[53:51] missing child, you have a missing parent

[53:54] and and you come to us and we say, well,

[53:56] you know, I don't know, they went that

[53:58] way. Maybe I it's very difficult. We

[54:01] have a we have a tool right now that we

[54:03] can pinpoint it. Um they they took an

[54:05] individual in the city of Pan on on

[54:09] was wanted for homicide. Uh dinged on

[54:13] dinged on a plot camera come through the

[54:14] city and and mailed him to the home and

[54:16] he's sitting in jail right now. didn't

[54:18] have that flat camera, everyone would

[54:19] have them. Those people come and go. You

[54:22] can only do so much with your own eyes.

[54:24] I tried to do as many as I could at

[54:26] night. I, like I said, I run hundreds.

[54:27] As I got older, it got more difficult

[54:29] with my eyes. But, uh, and they got

[54:31] faster for some reason.

[54:34] So, but but the plates can pick up, you

[54:36] know, these these readers can pick up

[54:38] plate after plate after plate. They

[54:39] don't get tired like a human does. So,

[54:45] [snorts]

[54:45] » Thank you very much. appreciate that

[54:48] update on that. So, uh, is there any

[54:50] other questions on on any of it? Now, I

[54:53] I just wanted to go back to you said,

[54:55] uh, you have some patrol officers that

[54:58] are are graduating. Will that mean that

[55:00] your detective squad will get some new

[55:05] will some people move into that area

[55:07] then? And

[55:09] » Difficulty is

[55:10] » Not difficulty, but you have four months

[55:12] in academy and then after that you have

[55:14] four months of field training. Okay. So,

[55:16] even though we're bringing them in in

[55:17] October, we're not going to see a real

[55:20] push into helping us out into probably

[55:22] January, February of next year. Uh,

[55:24] [snorts] and then as things come because

[55:26] it's cyclical, we also have some

[55:28] retirements. The sheriff is not is not

[55:30] uh obviously going to be back. Uh, and

[55:32] we have some other retirements. So, we

[55:33] will have some openings. I have Deb

[55:36] working on posting those openings. So,

[55:38] we're actually start again

[55:40] [clears throat] hiring process to to

[55:41] bring some more people in. Um hopefully

[55:44] with uh the direction we're going now,

[55:47] we'll attract some people that already

[55:49] are in the business that we can bring in

[55:51] and start uh in, you know, fairly quick

[55:54] versus having to send through academy

[55:55] and that eight-month process.

[55:57] » Sure. Okay. Thank you very much. Um

[56:02] strategic plan progress updates

[56:06] » Any we we had some Alen had one there. I

[56:10] don't know you guys have any updates on

[56:11] yours at this

[56:12] » Point. We we uh completed our strate

[56:16] strategic plan um implemented

[56:18] everything. So uh basically what we're

[56:20] doing is we're going to try to uh

[56:21] fine-tune it um make things better and

[56:24] and add some for this upcoming year.

[56:26] That's where we're at.

[56:27] » Right. Good. Any questions on that?

[56:31] » All right. Uh with that, we'll move into

[56:33] the 2027 budget budget discussion.

[56:40] I don't know who.

[56:41] » Yeah, I don't have anything to share. I

[56:43] think everybody shared theirs at the

[56:44] last meeting. Um they were presented

[56:47] last month. I think Amanda wasn't here,

[56:49] but she shared hers during her report.

[56:50] So unless you have any additional

[56:51] questions on that, I'm happy to update

[56:53] on that.

[56:54] » Does anybody have any questions?

[56:57] » You've seen any changes from last month

[56:59] with these departments? um

[57:01] » Worth talking about

[57:05] » More administratively like Amanda

[57:06] mentioned we um separated out some

[57:08] accounts um for medical examiner um from

[57:14] the EMS front um I don't know that there

[57:17] were any changes um one thing that we're

[57:19] looking at is keeping that levy flat

[57:21] there um so utilizing some of the fund

[57:25] balance towards their equipment

[57:27] purchases for 2027 we did the same thing

[57:30] in 202 26. Um we'll be taking a smaller

[57:32] amount from balance for the 2027 budget

[57:35] um to fund their monitors for next year.

[57:38] Um and then on the sheriff's department

[57:41] front, I think we added in the

[57:42] innovation grant um that we didn't have

[57:44] initially. Um there's we've had some

[57:47] discussion on some equipment for the

[57:49] jail that's needed. Um taking that out

[57:51] of the 2027 CIP and possibly doing an

[57:53] amendment to the 2026 to utilize some

[57:55] surplus from this year to purchase it

[57:57] this year instead. Um, but we're still

[57:59] kind of evaluating some of that.

[58:02] » Okay, sounds good. Any other any other

[58:06] questions on the budget?

[58:10] » All right, sounds good. With that, we're

[58:12] up to future suggested agenda items. Is

[58:15] there anybody have anything they would

[58:17] like to get on the agenda for another

[58:20] meeting?

[58:22] Okay, I'm not seeing any. I would look

[58:24] for a motion to adjourn.

[58:27] Motion motion by Peterson.

[58:31] Second by Peterman. We're journ.

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