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All right, I'll call the August 3rd City
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Council meeting to order.
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Call the roll.
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>> Ashley Allers, here. Abby Hanson, John
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Hawkins,
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>> Yeah.
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>> John Marvel,
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>> Here.
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>> Megan McFarland,
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>> Here.
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>> Pledge of Allegiance.
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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America,
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and to the republic for which it stands,
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one nation under God, indivisible, with
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liberty and justice for all.
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» Move for a motion to approve the agenda.
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Motion to approve.
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>> Second.
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>> All those in favor say aye.
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>> Aye.
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>> Uh
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Item one is petitions, communications,
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or requests. This is the time of the
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meeting that a citizen may address the
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council on a matter not on the agenda.
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No minute No more than 5 minutes per
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person, except in cases of emergency,
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the City Council not not take any action
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at this meeting, but our city staff to
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research the matter and have the matter
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placed on the agenda for a future
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meeting.
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Mark, you got something for us tonight?
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» Good evening. A few months ago, I just
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happened to talk to John.
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>> Tell us your name.
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>> Oh, Mark Gillette.
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Um stopped in and talked to John about
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real estate. I was only needing 10
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minutes, but it took us an hour and
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Um
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So, around 2008, the council
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[clears throat] was asked to increase
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the permits
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of connections for new construction uh
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for a 3/4 inch line
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for $1,600
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or for a 1-inch line
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Excuse me, $2,300. That was just the
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permit cost.
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Uh which is pretty anti-growth. Well,
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they
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in 2011, they rescinded that ordinance,
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going back to normal.
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So, around 2007, the council was asked
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to adopt the international building
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codes.
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The codes that the were the same as ours
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at the time, so there was really no
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problem. It passed 8 5 to 0.
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Unfortunately, they didn't tell us that
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every 2 years
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they increase the mortgage rates, more
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money.
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Uh
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So,
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a few years back before John's time
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here,
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um
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the manager
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and
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Daniel and
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the Yahoo you hired down in
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Des Moines or Polk County
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got together and they had the council
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change the ordinance.
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So, instead of costing 6 to 8,000
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dollars
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to put in water and sewer,
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it went to 18,000 because of these,
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which that can be rescinded also.
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We're going to be tearing down 75 of our
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lots, so we really If you want growth,
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you're not going to get it with 18,000
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dollars with all the infill lots we
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have.
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The other thing we talked about was
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granny houses
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and
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where you could tie on
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to the existing house if there's room
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for the water and sewer lines.
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Save thousands of dollars doing that,
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plus you could have either Airbnb, a
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small rental,
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or a granny house.
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Uh
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So, what I dropped off tonight for you
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is something to read.
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They have these
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little annexations in Cedar Rapids,
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Cedar Falls, Portland, Oregon, British
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Columbia, California and all kinds of
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Although, I think two years you can get
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the plans.
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Uh question.
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So, hopefully you consider it.
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Um I do have a lot next to my house,
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which I'd like to put in a sewer and
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water.
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Then I could sell it in the future if I
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wanted to.
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Um
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Or if I can't, cuz I'm not going to
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spend $18,000. If it's If they want to
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artificially up, that's that's crazy.
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So, I won't be building there.
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If I can, and you can change the
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ordinance, takes three of you
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to buy into my house, I'd already had a
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house built
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for a granny house or a Airbnb or just a
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family come stay, you know.
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So, give you something to think about.
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Hope you do.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um
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>> Thanks, Knox.
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>> Nate Ball.
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Knoxville Ball.
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Knoxville
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» All right. Um
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is it close enough? Yeah, it's close
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enough.
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All right. Uh consent the following
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items have been deemed non-controversial
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routine actions to be approved by the
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council on a single motion. If a council
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member or member of the audience wishes
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to have an item removed from this list,
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it'll be considered on its normal
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sequence on the agenda.
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I have uh A is the minutes of July 20
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meeting.
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Um B is claims in the fund list. C is
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the issuance of a beer and liquor
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licenses by the Iowa Department of
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Commerce for uh recommended for the
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following. Approve new class C retail
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alcohol license including outdoor
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service for Wildcat Products at 713
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Second Street.
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Approve a new class C retail alcohol
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license for Now and Forever at 1102
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Second Street. And approve a new class C
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retail alcohol license for Now and
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Forever at
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1803 Superior Street. That's uh formerly
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S Way.
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And then D is a resolution authorizing
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issuance of a cigarette, tobacco,
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nicotine, vapor device
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uh retail permits for Brewed Number
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Seven
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and Now and Forever formerly S Way at
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1803 and 1102 Second Street and Superior Second Street.
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Uh E is a resolution and
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directing publication of gross wage
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salaries for the full-time and part-time
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city employees for the calendar year of
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2025.
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That's it.
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>> Motion to approve collectively.
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>> Second.
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>> All in favor say aye.
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>> Aye.
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>> And then general agenda.
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We have a public hearing. Public hearing
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on a proposal to renew the citywide
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urban revitalization plan for
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residential tax abatement. I'll open the
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hearing.
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Are there any written objections?
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>> No, there are none.
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>> Are there any oral objections?
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Okay, I'll close the hearing.
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Very well, we're on time.
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>> I apologize.
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Good evening, Council. So, this item is
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just before you. The plan was adopted in
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1993. What it does is on infill lots, it
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allows for 3 years of 100% tax abatement
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on new construction, and it does have to
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be reviewed every 3 years.
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We have had about 140 new dwellings that
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have had
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have taken advantage of this 100% 3-year
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tax abatement. And we actually just
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approved one at the last meeting, so
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that would move it to 141.
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The Planning and Zoning Commission did
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review this and recommended to the
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Council for it to be extended another 3
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years. So, tonight I'm just requesting
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that you approve the plan for another 3
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years.
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» Okay, any questions?
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Resolution adopting the continuance of
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the urban revitalization for residential
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tax abatement.
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>> Move to approve.
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>> Second. All in favor say aye.
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>> Aye.
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>> Um
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right. Would I come up?
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Do you want to
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talk on your request for the reduction
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[clears throat]
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lower the lot prices at 2501 North
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Terrace.
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» Yeah, I think
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I actually sent out an email and I
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apologize to John you went on the
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website so I didn't have your email
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address so
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>> There was a problem with my picture. So
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» So
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well anyway
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I laid laid out a lot of the points on
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this and and the one point that I forgot
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and left out of it was during the time
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that we did these constructions we had
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these up for sale. The city had been
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redoing the streets in that area and had
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it blocked off and made it very
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difficult to get to that area. So it was
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tough for people to even just drive
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around and see
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what was going on they couldn't even get
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to it very easily. So that contributed I
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think
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a factor to that.
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We did lose a sale
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on a house one of the houses out there
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when they did their budget they figured
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out the
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property taxes were
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you know quite a bit higher than what
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they expected so they they were not able
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to put it together with their budget so
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we lost that sale.
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And I imagine we'd have to talk to the
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realtor but I'm sure other people had
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the same situation when they looked at
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it. They combined that with
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the cost of lumber and and all
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construction materials going up and then
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and the environment of rates going up it
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really made it handicap hard to sell.
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There's few other factors you know
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there's a lot of lots out there on the
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west end that you guys have experienced
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for years hard to sell and
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a lot of that's directly related to the
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cost of the lot.
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You know they're not a wooded lot or
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real scenic you got the highway you're
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dealing with so there there's some
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challenges out there that you don't need
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to be addressed to help sell them and so
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with all those things combined with
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you know tough environment it made it
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very hard to sell houses. We We lost on
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average $34,000 a house is what we lost.
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Um this house here is in the same
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situation.
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Um especially when we've held it for
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over 2 years. So,
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makes it hard to do. Um and given the
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fact that
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the city is willing to incentivize other
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another builder to try to build out
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there, you know, I appreciate that and I think that's right step. But we'd like
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to have ours reduced down to a lower
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rate to help us
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uh
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absorb some of the losses we've taken on
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that. And also, you know, to
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make it more incentivized towards us
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building small houses in the future out
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there.
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Uh
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Getting close to it
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>> This specific lot, when did you um start
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construction? When did you sign the
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contract?
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>> I'd have to look. I believe it was 2023.
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>> 2023?
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>> That's what I found.
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>> Right. I looked up that I could not find
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it.
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>> Yeah, so
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2023 and uh
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» And we paid
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>> full price on the other three lots that
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we did that. Uh Yeah, well, and and we
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carried them for quite some time to get
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them sold, but we did finally get them
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sold.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And with that and the other houses, uh I
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think you'll see we have contributed a
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large amount of uh
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tax base to the city over the last, you
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know, 6 8 years that we've been building
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here. So, we want to continue that. We
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need to try to address
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um
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you know, the costs so we can absorb
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those moving forward.
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>> [clears throat]
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>> And the house currently,
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uh I've driven by, I've heard two or
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three different things. The house has
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been sold?
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>> Yes.
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» Has that completely gone through? And
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that's final and that's
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>> Yeah, that's final.
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>> Okay.
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» So, I I will tell you all I'm not going
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to vote on this because I do work with
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Brian's wife very closely, um and I
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don't want that to be portrayed as a
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conflict of interest.
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But, you know, um John and I have
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talked. You you can tell me there's a
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contract in place cuz there is.
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Contracts get amended all the time. So,
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I'm I'm less concerned about there being
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a contract than anything else.
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Um I do think,
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you know, considering we're trying to
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build and expand the housing in Webster
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City and grow the tax base,
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that we did just allow this other
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company
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significantly different lot rates, and I
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think at this point it would be the
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right thing to do.
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Um I I realize this was several years
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ago. It's not like he signed it
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yesterday and now we're trying to change
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it. This was a couple years ago.
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Um different city administration, I
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think even possibly at that time.
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And so, while I'm not going to vote, I I
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would say it's something I think the
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council should seriously consider
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looking at the price.
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>> Um did did you did you say that we he's
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you've already paid a thousand for this
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lot, haven't you?
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>> Pardon?
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>> Is there Is there already a thousand
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paid for this lot?
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>> so.
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>> Um I mean, I'm I'm prepared to uh it
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seems you've already paid the thousand.
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I'm prepared to to call that good
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myself.
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Um I think you've you've done enough
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stuff. Uh do I like the idea that we're
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changing the contract now? No, no, I
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don't. But at the same time,
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I can see why you're asking and and
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we've we're doing a deal with somebody
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else, which is better than what you got.
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So, uh I'm I'm happy to do that, but I
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guess it's over to you, Megan. What do
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you think?
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>> I think that's a
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>> So, I I
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>> Go ahead. I'm sorry.
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>> I think that's a good idea, too.
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>> I appreciate everything you've done. And
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um
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you know, I am
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you know, if you would come to us this
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year and I think that that
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he would have been
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gotten a favorable, you know, price for
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those lots.
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I can't speak for the council then. I
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wasn't on the council.
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Um
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You know, I do
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and I know contracts have been amended.
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I worked in sports for 40 years and
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contracts get changed.
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I'm kind of of a different mind. I you
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know, I believe the contract is the
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contract and um
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I do recognize that you've done a lot
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for our community. So
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>> And I will say or remind you that we did
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in
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'23 or '24 bring a proposal to buy
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significantly more lots at a reduced
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price to the council and it was rejected
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at the time.
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>> Yeah, and
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so
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I think if you did that now and in the
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future, I think that you would find that
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you know, this council in terms of
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economic development and the shortage of
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housing, you know, would be more
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receptive to such a plan.
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>> Do what?
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Do you want to make [clears throat] a
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motion to make the first note?
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» Thanks, Brian.
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>> Thank you.
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>> I'll make a motion to
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make it a thousand dollars.
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>> [sighs]
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>> What's already been paid?
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» But um
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I
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So I'll I'll second that, sir.
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Um wanted
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Um yes, you're
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John, you're all
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nations abstaining, sir.
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>> Yeah, and you're a no.
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>> You're a no.
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>> I'm a no.
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>> You're a no and you're both yeses.
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>> Yes.
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>> Yeah.
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Got it.
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>> So um
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Well, it's not
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you know
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you've paid for it, too.
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Thank you, Tim.
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Thanks.
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Is that right, Jack?
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All right, item C is a resolution
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providing for notice of hearing on
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proposed plans, specifications, proposed
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form of contract, and estimate of costs
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for construction of Mary Ann's water
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main extension project for September 8th
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at 6:05 p.m.
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Ready.
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>> Good evening, Council. Yes, we're ready
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to set the hearing on
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Mary Ann's water main extension.
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Uh prior to construction
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of the facility at Mary Ann's Specialty
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Foods, uh city staff and Mary Ann's,
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Kelly Berleske, sat down and talked
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about how to assist them with water
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pressures and flows. And at that time,
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uh we kind of came up with a joint uh
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solution is to bring the water main
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where it uh previously had dead ended on
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the north side of their property all the
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way to the west along the property line
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back uh east along the railroad tracks
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where it currently is dead ended.
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Um and there that's what Here's where
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our portion of of um
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the project comes into play is where we
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would then tie on to where they left off
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uh under the railroad tracks into East
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Second Street where it would become a
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loop system.
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Um looping this system has plenty of uh
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pros um
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for them, you know, increase of
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pressure, water pressure flows, uh but
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also big thing is for pipe fire
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prevention with the new building, stuff
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like that.
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On our end, something we look at is if
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one of the facilities, uh Mary Ann's or
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Custom Meats, would have to be shut down
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for whatever reason,
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um previously it would be we shut one of
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them down, we shut both of them down.
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And so that's not good for them for
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uh a big manufacturer, a big business in
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town. Uh we don't like doing that. And
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so with this loop system, we will be
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able to separate the two. So.
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>> Okay.
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So we're just setting a hearing. Any
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discussion?
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>> Motion to set a hearing.
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>> Second.
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>> All in favor, say aye.
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>> Aye.
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>> Um item D, there's resolution
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authorizing the city manager to execute
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a contract with Pliner Brothers Crushing
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LLC for 2027 concrete crushing services.
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>> Yes, so so kind of a yearly
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um
[17:38]
thing we do. Last year, I know we we
[17:40]
kind of took some time off of this. We
[17:41]
had a lot of We had a big uh panel
[17:43]
replacement project that we had going
[17:45]
on, so we had a lot of material coming.
[17:48]
And so, this year, we decided to do
[17:50]
something different. Uh we decided to
[17:52]
work in collaboration with uh secondary roads with Ryan um with the
[17:58]
county engineer. Um he had a lot of
[18:00]
concrete that he needed crushed as well,
[18:02]
so we put two contracts together, worked
[18:05]
together, went out for one uh
[18:07]
quote bid.
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And uh
[18:09]
got some can had three people um turn in
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Mobile Crushing, who typically does our
[18:14]
crushing last several years, um uh
[18:16]
Pliner Brothers Crushing, and then
[18:18]
Maxim's Trucking Materials.
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Um
[18:21]
it's kind of different, but uh several
[18:24]
years ago, we were at like $7.25,
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and usually this goes the other
[18:28]
direction. I just talked to Matt this
[18:30]
morning with Mobile Crushing,
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and I think they're just getting into a
[18:33]
bidding war, and we're down to $4. And
[18:36]
so, it's really good for us,
[18:38]
and so, um obviously, the rock that we
[18:41]
use is for projects,
[18:43]
um alleys, and all the biggest secondary
[18:45]
roads, so
[18:47]
uh we would recommend going with Pliner
[18:48]
Brothers Crushing, uh $4 a per ton with
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zero uh cost of mobilization.
[18:54]
>> Interesting.
[18:56]
>> I appreciate that you worked together
[18:57]
with the county. I think that's a great
[18:59]
way to
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>> Yeah, uh
[19:00]
we did Ryan and I have been talking
[19:02]
quite a bit lately on several things, so
[19:04]
um
[19:05]
kind of happened quick, and it went very
[19:07]
well.
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>> Good.
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» Thank you, Pliner. Yeah.
[19:11]
Vote for them motion.
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>> Motion to approve.
[19:14]
>> I'll second.
[19:15]
>> All those in favor say I.
[19:19]
Item eight is a resolution approving the
[19:21]
purchase of a 2026 Vermeer AX17 brush
[19:24]
chipper from from Vermeer, Iowa for the
[19:27]
electric utility.
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Ryan, good evening.
[19:30]
>> Good evening council.
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>> [laughter]
[19:47]
» Staff is requesting to purchase this
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2026
[19:51]
AX17 brush chipper from Vermeer, Iowa.
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With a net cost of $72,900.
[19:59]
We currently have a 2015
[20:02]
mobile art that we've had a lot of
[20:05]
clutch issues with.
[20:08]
And
[20:09]
that has become
[20:11]
an issue and currently has a bad clutch
[20:13]
in it.
[20:15]
With
[20:16]
the future of
[20:18]
us doing all this project upkeep and
[20:22]
road clearances and all that stuff, this
[20:26]
unit is going to get a lot of use in the
[20:28]
next 5 years just to get caught up.
[20:32]
>> Well, let's
[20:33]
>> Staff recommends approval of this
[20:36]
for the $72,900
[20:38]
plus tax.
[20:39]
>> [snorts]
[20:39]
>> This is also set aside in the 5-year
[20:42]
forecast of the um
[20:44]
electric [clears throat]
[20:45]
capital budget that you adopted earlier
[20:47]
this year. That page was included as
[20:50]
part of the packet material.
[20:52]
>> For the record,
[20:56]
can you explain for the record what a
[20:59]
brush chipper is?
[21:01]
>> I think I know. I'm fairly certain I
[21:03]
know, but Pat
[21:06]
might want to know.
[21:07]
>> I've heard of it, too. So
[21:09]
>> So the three chippers throw back to you.
[21:11]
>> What chips them?
[21:13]
>> That's what I thought, too, but I'm glad
[21:15]
>> If you've seen Fargo, you know what I
[21:17]
mean.
[21:17]
>> [laughter]
[21:18]
>> Oh, that's a wood chipper, right? Okay.
[21:20]
>> Curious, you'd say oh, it's got clutch
[21:22]
issues. It's got clutch
[21:23]
>> It's not the use of it.
[21:24]
>> Have we spent quite a bit then trying to
[21:26]
repair this or have we repaired it
[21:28]
ourselves or
[21:29]
>> Uh we have had local company do it one
[21:33]
time and
[21:34]
um
[21:36]
I think
[21:38]
uh
[21:39]
company for
[21:41]
Obar did it the other time.
[21:42]
>> Okay.
[21:43]
>> But yeah, it's about $5,000 every time
[21:45]
that happens, so.
[21:46]
>> And we did discuss
[21:48]
um simply replacing the clutch.
[21:51]
Um
[21:52]
>> [clears throat]
[21:52]
>> the we're we're at a uh tipping point
[21:55]
with the trade-in value, it seemed like
[21:57]
when we talked with the um
[21:59]
the uh
[22:00]
folks that we got the quotes from.
[22:03]
Uh and the manual clutch seems to be
[22:07]
problematic with the cruise. Not that
[22:10]
they can't operate them, but it just uh
[22:12]
adds a complexity to a dangerous job
[22:14]
already. Uh if if I'm reading the
[22:18]
comments I've received from staff back
[22:20]
uh correctly.
[22:21]
>> It does have a few more safety
[22:24]
things than the last one I had. It has a
[22:25]
knee guard that that
[22:28]
you're getting sucked into the unit, it
[22:30]
will trip the unit off and
[22:33]
So, there is some extra safety involved
[22:35]
with it.
[22:35]
>> Now, I appreciate that.
[22:36]
>> Well, it's 11 years old.
[22:38]
>> Yeah.
[22:38]
>> So, you did you got a good run out of
[22:40]
it, so.
[22:41]
>> I'm also very curious, what's the
[22:42]
average life of one of these? I mean,
[22:44]
this one's 11 years old, so that's
[22:45]
great, but I'm just curious.
[22:48]
>> Yeah, I was going to ask if I was going
[22:50]
to ask that or longer.
[22:51]
>> Okay.
[22:52]
>> Well, we I do I pick a lot of or used to
[22:54]
pick a lot of them up for Asplund all
[22:56]
over the place, and most of them weren't
[22:58]
They were about 10 years old. So.
[23:01]
And they were a lot worse than this one,
[23:03]
but
[23:04]
I had to say whether they were them more
[23:05]
or less, you know. They probably were
[23:06]
doing the same thing you guys are doing,
[23:08]
so.
[23:08]
>> I'm excited to say this. Um, the motion
[23:11]
to approve the purchase of the vehicle
[23:13]
brush chipper.
[23:16]
>> Thanks, Ron.
[23:18]
Well, I'm going to have to say I.
[23:20]
>> I.
[23:20]
>> Uh, and then item F is a resolution
[23:22]
approving task order number nine with D
[23:25]
G and engineering professional
[23:27]
engineering services related to the city
[23:29]
city's municipal electric system arc
[23:31]
flash assessment update and authorizing
[23:33]
city manager to execute the agreement.
[23:36]
>> Welcome back, Ron.
[23:37]
>> Yeah.
[23:39]
>> So, this is a request to approve task
[23:41]
order nine with the D G and R for the
[23:44]
lab arc flash assessment. The last time
[23:46]
this was done was back in 2015. It is
[23:50]
recommended to do it every five years.
[23:54]
It's an NFPA E standard.
[23:57]
Um, what it is is
[24:01]
>> What is that group? N N N E
[24:04]
>> [clears throat]
[24:04]
>> What is What does that stand for?
[24:06]
>> National
[24:07]
>> Electric
[24:08]
>> It's fire protection or safety code. So,
[24:11]
it's kind of like your OSHA standards
[24:13]
and stuff like that.
[24:16]
Um
[24:18]
So, the
[24:20]
with this
[24:21]
um
[24:23]
it gives us the available arc flash
[24:26]
ratings at different points in our
[24:28]
system. And with the last year's system
[24:31]
upgrades um, all that needs to be
[24:34]
updated uh, with the new Horizon or
[24:36]
substation and all that. And what this
[24:38]
does is let's city staff know the
[24:41]
appropriate um
[24:45]
person
[24:46]
personal protective equipment to wear
[24:48]
when you're in these certain areas. And
[24:51]
also like if
[24:53]
um
[24:54]
edible gardens, their engineers want to
[24:56]
know what the available fault current is
[24:59]
to design their equipment. It gives us
[25:01]
the tools to give them the right answer.
[25:05]
» It was last updated 10 years ago.
[25:08]
Industry standard is occasionally
[25:11]
five. So
[25:13]
and it was recommended as part of the
[25:16]
broader [clears throat] capital plan
[25:17]
adopted by the
[25:19]
well, completed by DGR and that informs
[25:22]
our capital recommendations
[25:24]
to you all. I think the safety aspect of
[25:26]
this is considerable given that we've
[25:28]
added a new substation
[25:30]
and we'll continue to make improvements
[25:32]
to the system.
[25:35]
» Motion to approve.
[25:37]
>> Second.
[25:38]
>> All in favor say I.
[25:40]
>> Thanks, Ron.
[25:43]
» Item G is a resolution accepting and
[25:46]
approving acquisition of property
[25:47]
generally generally located at 1111
[25:50]
Third Street in the city of Webster
[25:51]
City, Hamilton County.
[25:57]
» So this property was deemed abandoned
[26:00]
and unsafe. So this is just a formality
[26:03]
that we
[26:04]
bring it to council to accept this
[26:06]
property. So
[26:08]
we have been into the property and it is
[26:12]
pretty um
[26:14]
pretty far past its useful life. So
[26:17]
>> This one have a lead line.
[26:19]
One of the properties
[26:19]
>> straight have a lead line in the roof.
[26:22]
It's across the road from that one we
[26:23]
had problem with you know where that
[26:24]
property
[26:25]
>> patch in the street there for years.
[26:26]
>> What is it worth?
[26:32]
» Motion to approve.
[26:34]
>> I'll second.
[26:35]
>> All in favor say I.
[26:37]
>> I.
[26:39]
>> Okay, are there other items to come?
[26:41]
Zach, I think you
[26:42]
want to tell us about your work.
[26:44]
>> love to. I would love to. Um
[26:47]
128 Apple's closed now. We got that
[26:49]
done. They've combined the lots. That's
[26:51]
the one where they have three years, But
[26:54]
um
[26:56]
little shed on it so our garage on it.
[26:57]
So that one's moving along nicely.
[27:00]
We just talked about 11th 11th 11th 3rd
[27:01]
Street. So with that sound.
[27:05]
>> [laughter]
[27:06]
>> Um 11th 11th 3rd Street, that one's done
[27:08]
now. So it's taken a minute. We have
[27:09]
three more in the pipeline coming down
[27:12]
that you guys will probably own in the
[27:13]
next month as well. And then um
[27:17]
it's a bunch of FOIA requests, freedom
[27:18]
of information requests that we've been
[27:20]
receiving. So Beth and I and John and
[27:22]
city staff have been working on
[27:23]
responses to that and I just in the last
[27:25]
couple weeks we've been getting a
[27:27]
handful. So she's good, I guess. Might
[27:29]
get more tomorrow. People want to know
[27:31]
what's going on in town.
[27:32]
>> Question Question on the FOIA. Do we
[27:33]
charge them for copy and or do we
[27:36]
>> Um good question. So the answer is
[27:39]
maybe. Um
[27:41]
they changed the law in the last year on
[27:43]
FOIA.
[27:44]
Yeah. So it's actual cost only and it's
[27:46]
supposed to be reasonable in the sense
[27:48]
of like if
[27:50]
they're simply asking for
[27:52]
something specific and it takes us 10
[27:54]
minutes to get it, we don't charge. If
[27:56]
it's something that's going to spend
[27:57]
hours, we are authorized to send them a
[28:00]
response that says, "Hey, we're
[28:02]
estimating this actual cost to be Y or
[28:05]
X, whatever." And then they can say yes
[28:07]
or no on it. So
[28:09]
>> Yeah.
[28:09]
>> And then copies and stuff like that.
[28:11]
>> Yeah. Yeah. But so far it's been pretty
[28:13]
>> Right.
[28:14]
>> Got it.
[28:14]
>> So
[28:16]
» Okay.
[28:18]
>> Move for motion to adjourn.
[28:20]
>> Motion to adjourn.
[28:21]
Second.
[28:25]
» All in favor say aye.
[28:26]
>> Aye.
[28:27]
>> We're adjourned. Thanks, everybody.
[28:29]
>> Thanks. Appreciate it.