[0:00] Will you please stand and join me in the pledge?

[0:03] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to

[0:08] the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with

[0:15] liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you.

[0:21] Moving on to approval of the agenda, any additions, corrections, or deletions to

[0:24] tonight's agenda as drafted? Seeing no changes suggested, I'd

[0:28] entertain a motion to approve said agenda.

[0:30] » So moved. >> Motion.

[0:32] » Second. >> Second by Trustee Andre Lee. Any

[0:34] additional discussion or comment? Hearing none, all those in favor say

[0:37] aye. >> Aye.

[0:38] » Opposed? Motion carries. Moving on to President's

[0:41] report, local liquor control commission appointment. As folks are aware, I would

[0:47] like to include a fourth member to the liquor commission. That would be Trustee

[0:52] Willbrand. And so with the

[0:55] board's consent, I would like to have him appointed so we can start joining us

[1:00] at the next round of meetings.

[1:03] Any comments or questions? >> I think that's good.

[1:06] » Okay. >> I'm so sorry, but I didn't hear you very

[1:07] hard from here. >> Yes, we cannot hear you.

[1:09] » Okay. Thank you. So,

[1:13] if anyone is okay, I'd take a motion on that, please.

[1:16] » I move to approve the appointment of Dan Willbrand as a commissioner for a local

[1:19] liquor commission. >> Okay, motion and a second by Trustee

[1:22] Yaska. Any additional discussion or comment?

[1:26] Hearing none, Madam Clerk. >> Trustee Price.

[1:28] » Aye. >> Trustee Yaska.

[1:29] » Aye. >> Trustee Johnson.

[1:30] » Aye. >> Trustee LaPagianas.

[1:32] » Aye. >> Trustee Andre Lee.

[1:33] » Aye. >> Trustee Willbrand.

[1:34] » Abstain. >> Okay, five ayes, one abstention, motion

[1:38] carries. Moving on to West End D fire pension board appointment. Joe,

[1:43] what is the detail on this? >> Kathy Hayes is resigning as position and

[1:48] we are appointing Linda Chambers, finance director for the pension board.

[1:52] » Okay, comments or questions? Okay, hearing none, I would entertain a

[1:57] motion to appoint Linda Chambers to the Fire Pension Board.

[2:01] » So moved. >> Motion.

[2:02] » Second. >> Second by Trustee Johnson. Any

[2:05] additional discussion or comment? Hearing none, Madam Clerk.

[2:09] » Trustee Escamilla. >> Aye.

[2:10] » Trustee Johnson. >> Aye.

[2:11] » Trustee Lapagianis. >> Aye. [music]

[2:13] » Trustee Anderly. >> Aye.

[2:14] » Trustee Wilbrandt. >> Aye.

[2:15] » Trustee Price. >> Aye.

[2:16] » All eyes motion carries. That's the extent of my report. Moving on to

[2:19] reports and questions from Trustees and working groups starting with Trustee

[2:23] Anderly. >> I just want to wish you a very happy

[2:25] birthday. >> We have cupcakes, so please guys take

[2:28] some at the end. Uh but thank you, Trustee Anderly.

[2:32] Trustee Lapagianis. >> Um I have nothing, but I apologize. I

[2:36] was in the city at a meeting and traffic.

[2:38] » That's okay. I understand. Trustee Johnson.

[2:41] » Just the agenda. >> Thank you. Trustee Escamilla.

[2:44] » I have nothing. >> Trustee Price.

[2:45] » Just the agenda. >> Trustee Wilbrandt.

[2:47] » Uh for those that observed the Crosstown Classic, can we just maintain from

[2:51] saying any scores for those that are recording it at home?

[2:54] » Okay. Yes. Yeah, for sure. I think it starts what? Right about now?

[2:58] » Right now. >> Okay.

[2:59] » 7:05. >> All right, so moving on to Village Staff

[3:02] Reports. Uh Chief Green, anything to report?

[3:06] Okay. Chief Spiro, anything to report?

[3:09] » No. >> Director Scott, anything to report?

[3:14] Uh Thomas, uh anything to report? >> Nothing.

[3:17] » Okay, thank you. Uh Director Chambers, anything to report?

[3:22] All right, thank you. I think that is everyone.

[3:25] Okay. I'm sorry.

[3:27] Joe, do you have anything to add? >> I do not.

[3:29] » Thank [laughter] you. I'm sorry. Okay.

[3:33] All right, moving on to questions from the audience. This is an opportunity for

[3:36] those in attendance to address the board on items that are both on the agenda and

[3:40] not on the agenda. And we have one person signed up to speak to the board

[3:44] tonight, and that is Debbie Vernon. Ms. Vernon, you come to us from Sleepy

[3:48] Hollow. Uh will you ask you please come forward and uh

[3:52] share what you'd like to share and please note that your comment section is

[3:55] limited to 5 minutes. >> May I sit down or stand up?

[3:58] » Your choice. Use the microphone. Microphone either way.

[4:02] Yes. >> Hello.

[4:12] Good evening. My name My name is Debbie Vernon and I'm a resident of Sleepy

[4:16] Hollow living at 821 Locust Drive. My husband Pete and I have lived here

[4:22] for 24 years and own our home. My background is a retired local government

[4:27] accountant and I retired in 2021 for the Village of Lake Barrington with 16 years

[4:33] of experience in Illinois and before that 4 years in Wisconsin in local

[4:38] government as well at the City of Lake Geneva. The previous

[4:42] 20 years I was in corporate accounting. I'm very familiar with general

[4:46] operations, ordinances, regulations, and best practices in local government. My

[4:52] husband's a master code professional with building codes, zoning,

[4:56] construction, and development and has his own consulting business. We have

[4:59] been involved in the Village of Sleepy Hollow for the last 2 years going to

[5:04] most meetings and making comments and working to improve our village due to

[5:08] our background experience. I would like to comment tonight on the

[5:13] professionalism of the staff reports and the transparency in your packet being

[5:18] available before the meeting and the staff report 14 pages

[5:24] on the particular issue I was interested in.

[5:27] Um the agendas and documentations from the Village of West Dundee are very

[5:31] helpful. This is in contrast to the Village of Sleepy Hollow where there's

[5:35] this is not the case unfortunately. But we are working with trustees to make

[5:39] improvements to follow best practices. I'm here tonight to comment on the item

[5:44] on the agenda 999 West Main Street, Lifezone 360, proposed location for the

[5:51] Harvest Bible Chapel. We live five houses away from the Lifezone building

[5:56] on Locust. My concerns are the special use standards for places of assembly

[6:02] {slash} places of worship. The items that I'm concerned about,

[6:06] number three, and these are listed on the staff report. Not to impede the

[6:10] normal and orderly development of surrounding properties for uses in the

[6:15] district. Number four, adequate utilities access roads to be provided.

[6:20] And number five, adequate measures to provide ingress and egress to design as

[6:27] to minimize traffic congestion in the public streets.

[6:30] I also feel the church doesn't fit in so well with the overall Spring Hill

[6:35] revitalization plan for the area as a whole, in my opinion.

[6:39] I believe that other uses, such as medical uses, exercise and workout

[6:44] facilities, do not go along with this mega type church. The church estimated

[6:50] 1,200 capacity, and I looked it up, they currently have one service on Sunday

[6:55] morning in Elgin off of Randall Road. The traffic will be so busy and cars

[7:01] will be cutting through the neighborhoods onto Route 31, perhaps 72,

[7:06] through Sleepy Hollow to get to Randall Road.

[7:09] When the Target store was operating there, there were never

[7:15] 1,200 people in the store. I can't I contacted today St. Catherine's Church,

[7:21] the parish office, and their maximum capacity is around 800 people, they tell

[7:26] me. But only on a few major religious holidays. They do have three services on

[7:31] Sunday, one on Saturday evening, and a daily morning mass. Their services are

[7:36] spread out. There's a financial side of this proposal as well. There is $90,000

[7:43] of property tax revenue collected per the last annual tax bill.

[7:48] A non-profit entity would not be paying this to the taxing bodies. There is also

[7:53] a TIF district number five included in that total that nonprofits would most

[7:57] likely not pay of 38,000. As well as school district of 36,000

[8:04] and the Village of West Dundee 15,000. Under the category development agreement

[8:09] from a staff memo, it seems that the church would want to use the Adrenaline

[8:13] Monkey part of the building for church activities. But to use the 360 area zone

[8:20] for possible staying with the existing tenants and non-church uses. That would

[8:25] require a separate parcel, so there would be two parcels. This seems to be

[8:30] not realistic answer. It would not be best for the long-term development of

[8:35] this important commercial and retail property. And the way I understand it is

[8:39] a non-profit has to have non-profit activities to not pay the property

[8:45] taxes. Um like I said, it would be a best for

[8:48] the long-term development of this important commercial and retail property

[8:53] to fit in again to the overall vision of the Spring Hill

[8:58] revitalization. A better idea in my opinion would be for

[9:02] the church to find a more suitable space for the church such as a possibly a

[9:07] light industrial park. I believe the use of parcels in an already retail and

[9:12] commercial zoning belong in that zoning for a reason to improve the surrounding

[9:18] areas. Under the category listed on the um

[9:23] staff memo, consideration from the staff memo to the village manager from the

[9:27] village manager and director of economic development.

[9:31] I believe in my opinion would be to ask the Village Board of West Dundee not to

[9:36] support exploration of this idea to potentially adaptively

[9:41] reuse the building and wish to have a public hearing

[9:45] to have the proposal vetted along with the corresponding code updates and

[9:50] identified by the village attorney considered.

[9:54] So, I would say no, pass. It doesn't fit in with the the village as a whole.

[9:59] Thank you for listening to my comments and that concerns and I appreciate

[10:03] having a second chance to speak. Thank you.

[10:05] » Thank you very much. And Ms. Vernon, if you want to share your comments with

[10:09] Director Scott, uh if you have a printed copy, uh that

[10:13] would be great. Is your

[10:17] Thank you.

[10:20] Uh ma'am, I see you stood up. Would you

[10:22] like to >> I didn't know if there was to be a

[10:24] discussion. I also just had

[10:28] I came to express concerns

[10:32] and questions also about the next owner taking over the ranch or

[10:37] » Okay, so >> So, I didn't know if there

[10:39] » I'm sorry. >> Name

[10:40] » Yeah, okay. So, if you'd like to come forward, all we'd ask is your name and

[10:43] address for the record, please. >> Um Margaret Bock. I live here on Oregon

[10:50] with my husband and daughter. >> Yes.

[10:52] » My daughter is a participant in the gymnastics program and many of the moms

[10:58] and parents wanted to come, but gymnastics

[11:02] is in session. Um

[11:06] Personally, I've heard a lot of things that are concerning to

[11:11] me with the takeover of this property by Harvest Baptist.

[11:16] It seems as though

[11:26] it's an important place. We don't have any facility like that anywhere else.

[11:32] Many different families come from all over the place there.

[11:36] There's no place for the gymnastics to move to that I can think of.

[11:46] Questions I've heard from members or

[11:52] trying to be

[11:55] professional here. Um

[11:57] it seems as though there's already a takeover of that property

[12:02] in the discussions that people are saying. This place is being cut out.

[12:06] This is being cut out. It's it's very disturbing to me.

[12:11] Um I don't know much about it. Never been

[12:14] to one of these meetings before. But I'm just here to say that myself and

[12:19] at least the women that I speak to and their children

[12:23] that are involved in it are very opposed to it. I don't think those two things

[12:27] should be mixed. I don't feel like me paying my child's gymnastics fee should

[12:34] in any way and I don't know how it's all getting worked out should be going

[12:38] towards paying the rent or mortgage for Harvest Baptist

[12:43] if they own the property. >> Thank you very much.

[12:50] Okay, we have any more folks signed up. So, we will move on to

[12:54] consent agenda items A through G. I have to read each in perpetuity into the in

[13:00] record. So, item A, approval of bill list for

[13:03] $965,903.

[13:06] Item B, 1201 Weisman Drive, an ordinance approving a plat of vacation and

[13:11] ordinance approving a plat of easement grant.

[13:16] Item C, Veterans Day activities, Grafflin Park special event. Item D,

[13:20] residential dumpster extension at 424 South Second Street. Item E, Bamboozles

[13:25] Riverfest new dates, October 30th and 31st, 2026.

[13:30] Item F, approval of minutes for the regular board meeting of July 20th,

[13:33] 2026. And item G, approval of minutes for regular board meeting August 3rd,

[13:37] 2026. Do I have any additions, corrections, or deletions to the consent

[13:41] agenda as drafted? Seeing none, I would entertain a motion

[13:45] to approve consent agenda items A through G.

[13:48] » So moved. >> Motion.

[13:50] » Second. >> Second by Trustee Alapagianis. Any

[13:52] additional discussion or comment? Hearing none, Madam Clerk.

[13:56] » Trustee Yaska? >> Aye.

[13:57] » Trustee Johnson? >> Aye.

[13:58] » Trustee Alapagianis? >> Aye.

[14:00] » Trustee Andely? >> Aye.

[14:01] » Trustee Wilbrandt? >> Aye.

[14:02] » Trustee Price? >> Aye.

[14:04] » All ayes, motion carries. Moving on to resolutions and ordinances, item A,

[14:07] ordinance authorizing the first amendment to the fiscal year 2026-2027

[14:11] budget of the Village of West Dundee. Trustee Yaska.

[14:14] » Since the recent adoption of the current budget, there have been some items that

[14:20] the board has approved that were not included

[14:23] in that document at the time. And in order to add them in and include them

[14:29] in the budget, some there's This is the reason for this first

[14:33] amendment, but also staff has identified some um

[14:38] changes and opportunities to the accounting structure

[14:43] uh in order to create new budget line items that provide greater transparency

[14:48] and more accurate tracking of revenue and expenditures.

[14:51] Now, this is a very extensive list. I'm not going to read through the list, but

[14:56] if Director Chambers has any highlights, please offer them.

[15:01] » I I think you got it. Uh you guys all have the list in front of you. I'm happy

[15:04] to answer any questions you guys have. >> Okay, coming to questions from the

[15:07] board. >> Uh I do and I do have a couple just

[15:11] two quick questions. Um there was a capital improvement line

[15:16] for 4.166

[15:20] million um going to 4.751

[15:25] million. I didn't see any documentation as to why that number increased.

[15:30] » That is our lead service line phase two. So, the bids came in higher than

[15:36] originally anticipated. So, that increases

[15:39] the the budget line for that. But, on the

[15:42] other side, you'll see we increased the revenue for the IEPA loan that goes

[15:46] along with it. >> The board authorized the the increase in

[15:49] the loan amount at a previous board meeting to this amount.

[15:54] » Yeah, I didn't see that that called out, but okay, got it. And then the other

[15:59] piece you may There was a comments on the main breaks, you know, all the main

[16:04] breaks. That goes in water and sewer, and we probably I'll ask some I'll ask a

[16:08] couple questions on that when we That goes in the water and sewer, is that

[16:12] right? >> The main breaks, yes.

[16:13] » Yeah, okay. And what that looks like.

[16:16] Other than that, I kind of understood all of the puts and takes in the county.

[16:22] Thank you. >> Any other comments or questions from the

[16:24] board? >> Um just a comment. I I like that the

[16:27] better detail on some of the expenses and revenues rather than just kind of

[16:31] going into the same pot. So, especially like for like the

[16:35] the um you know, for the inspections and

[16:38] different things like that. So, I think this is great. So, thank you for doing

[16:40] that. >> Okay.

[16:44] Trustee Aska. >> I move to approve an ordinance

[16:47] authorizing a first amendment to the fiscal year 2026-27

[16:52] budget of the Village of West Dundee. >> Motion.

[16:55] » Second. >> Seconded by Trustee Johnson. Any

[16:57] additional discussion or comment? Hearing none, Madam Clerk.

[17:01] » Trustee Aska. >> Aye.

[17:02] » Trustee Johnson. >> Aye.

[17:03] » Trustee Lapagianis. >> Aye.

[17:04] » Trustee Annelley. >> Aye.

[17:06] » Trustee Wilbrandt. >> Aye.

[17:07] » Trustee Price. >> Aye.

[17:08] » All ayes, motion carries. Well done, Linda.

[17:11] Moving on to item B, ordinance authorizing the renewal of aggregation

[17:15] program for electrical load. Trustee Aska?

[17:18] » I will let Manager Cabalero speak to this or who

[17:22] or or your spokesperson >> refer to Adam Hoover for just a moment.

[17:27] Uh the village has had a uh a managed municipal aggregation

[17:31] program uh for a number of years. Uh unfortunately,

[17:36] um it has not translated into uh great differentials uh that were uh

[17:43] available early on in the program, uh but we still do receive an annual civic

[17:48] contribution uh towards the program, uh and uh we are

[17:53] continuing uh to recommend the continuation of the electrical

[17:57] electrical aggregation program for the Village of West Dundee moving over

[18:02] forward, and I'll just uh defer to Adam and see if he has any other comments.

[18:06] » Yep, I'll just say uh Nimek's been working with the village for 10-plus

[18:09] years primarily on the village's own accounts in finding a uh lower rate than

[18:14] uh Nimek. We do our ComEd bid. We do a Nimek bid with about 100-plus other

[18:17] municipalities. Many of you may recognize my father, Dave Hoover, who's

[18:20] been here and he's spending more time golfing and with the grandkids now. So,

[18:24] um the municipal aggregation program, which is for residents, expires in the

[18:29] fall. And so, we need to make a decision on a

[18:31] renewal. And so, um out of our 45 programs in ComEd

[18:36] territory, 44 of them are this price match program. Our number one job is to

[18:41] see if we can find savings for the residents. If the ComEd rate is 10

[18:43] cents, if we can find a rate that's 9 cents, we would love to bring that to

[18:47] you. No supplier's offering that for many of our towns in ComEd.

[18:51] So, this is the next best option. It is what you're currently running, which is

[18:54] the price match program. So, residents that are moved over to ComEd continue to

[18:58] pay the same rate as ComEd as it goes up and down and up and down. There's no

[19:02] savings to the resident. We wish there was, but there's no savings to the

[19:05] resident. More importantly, there's no extra cost ever to the resident. They

[19:09] will never pay a cent more. There'll never be a change to their

[19:12] billing, there'll never be a change to uh how their power is delivered. If

[19:15] there's outage, they still call ComEd, how they make their payments to ComEd.

[19:19] Virtually no change to the residents. For the last 2 years, you have been

[19:22] receiving a check from MC-squared for $6,000 annually.

[19:27] In the renewal process, they have up that offer to $10,000 annually.

[19:31] The other big change, and then I'll get to your questions, is we are encouraging

[19:35] a 6-year deal with 2-year opt-out options. The reason for this is because

[19:40] in 2 years from now, I will come back and say, "Hey, do you want to renew the

[19:43] deal?" Do you guys want to take the 12,000 or

[19:46] the 8,000 or whatever they offer? And so, it gives you the ability to do

[19:49] that. If there's an ability to find savings

[19:52] for residents and we can finally find a rate that goes to savings, we can still

[19:56] move to that. It still gives you the flexibility. But, with a 6-year deal,

[20:00] you do not need to send out letters to every single resident like you currently

[20:03] do every 2 years. And so, we're trying to limit the amount of letters that go

[20:07] out to residents of a program that's already in place.

[20:10] So, that is why we're encouraging the 6-year deal. I've thrown a lot of

[20:13] information at you, so I'll take any questions you may have.

[20:16] » So, process-wise for residents, for residents, will they receive another

[20:22] letter come fall? >> Yes, and if you go with a 6-year deal,

[20:25] say it's a 6-year program. So, then residents who aren't impacted, like

[20:29] those who have solar or have a different supplier, they won't receive another

[20:32] resident another letter for 6 years unless we find savings.

[20:35] » Okay. And do they

[20:38] They do not have to opt in, correct? >> Now, which resident you're talking

[20:42] about? Those residents I was talking about, the the ones with solar,

[20:46] they don't have to do a thing. They are by state law not included in the

[20:49] program. If for some reason they do want to be included, they they can. Every

[20:52] resident has the ability to go wherever they want.

[20:54] » Okay. The ones that are already in, though,

[20:58] they would just automatically stay in, correct?

[21:00] » Yep, nothing changes. And if the program ends in 2 years from now or 6 years from

[21:03] now, they would automatically go back to ComEd. In essence, those residents never

[21:07] need to do anything to to find >> Okay, and the ones that are currently

[21:10] not in, they um

[21:14] what if do they need to take action to get in or

[21:18] » They could. I want to be very clear, every resident can get in the program if

[21:21] they want. There is no benefit since there is no savings. So, when a resident

[21:24] calls me and says, "Hey, I want to join the program." You're more than welcome

[21:27] to. I'll show you how to do it, but more importantly, there's no savings or

[21:30] change to your billing, so there's really no added benefit in doing so.

[21:33] » And is there um so, for the 10,000 that we're going

[21:37] to get, is there any sort of minimum number of residents? So, as long as one

[21:42] signs up >> favorite part. If every resident opts

[21:44] out, then you guys will still receive your 10,000 for the next 2 years.

[21:48] » Even if not nobody does it. >> If everyone opts out by the contract, so

[21:51] yeah. So, the beauty is when a resident calls me and says, "What should I do?"

[21:54] I'm not trying to sell them on anything. >> Yeah.

[21:56] » Um we're just trying to give them the best advice possible.

[21:58] » So, probably the benefit to a resident staying in or joining the program would

[22:03] be not so much that they make any money. It doesn't hurt the village today, but

[22:07] chances are we probably that nobody's going to come back to us

[22:12] if zero residents was in in the >> Yeah, it's you're right. In 2 years from

[22:15] now, I don't know if that offer would still be $10,000 if you had zero

[22:18] residents, so that's a good point. Um

[22:21] » So, that would be worth noting, I guess, if people are asking is that the village

[22:25] does it helps, you know, in some incremental way help with taxes,

[22:29] etc. >> Fair close,

[22:32] Thank you. >> Okay. So, your current rate is the same

[22:35] as ComEd. I'm just trying to understand this.

[22:36] » Yep, the current aggregation program in West Dundee is the same rate as ComEd.

[22:39] No savings, no extra cost. >> Okay.

[22:43] » Any other comments or questions? Trustee Aska.

[22:48] » I move to continue the program for electrical aggregation services for the

[22:52] Village of West Dundee and approve an ordinance authorizing the renewal of

[22:55] aggregation program for electrical load with MC-squared Energy Services. Motion.

[23:03] » Second. >> Second by trustee price. Any additional

[23:05] discussion or comment? Hearing none. Madam Clerk.

[23:09] » Trustee Eska. >> Aye.

[23:10] » Trustee Johnson. >> Aye.

[23:11] » Trustee Lapagenis. >> Aye.

[23:13] » Trustee Andely. >> Aye.

[23:14] » Trustee Wilbrandt. >> Aye.

[23:15] » Trustee Price. >> Aye.

[23:17] » All eyes, motion carries. Thank you.

[23:21] Moving on to unfinished business item A. 305 Oregon Avenue, also known as the

[23:27] mansion. Consideration of a license for continued mixed residential use. Trustee

[23:31] Price. >> Uh yeah, so I think everybody's seen

[23:35] this um so far at various meetings. Unfortunately, we had um duplications

[23:40] and other sorts of things. We had some quorum issues. So, now [clears throat]

[23:44] we've got everybody here, we can actually um

[23:47] reach a decision on this. And um the owner is here. So, if you'd like to

[23:54] um speak to the board as as a whole, that'll

[23:57] be great. >> Hi everybody.

[23:59] My name is Talal Azim. >> Speak

[24:00] » I had a sheet of my contract with Charlie as well, too. I didn't get a

[24:04] chance to review it. Questions about

[24:06] » Just 1 second. Can everybody hear in the back?

[24:08] » No, you need to >> You'll have to use the microphone.

[24:10] » Make sure you use the mic. Yeah, thank you.

[24:11] » Thank you. >> [snorts]

[24:13] » Hey everybody. My name is Talal Azim. This is my uh contractor Charlie.

[24:18] Um I understand the last time that you guys

[24:21] had some issues and concerns about the upkeep and what developments we're going

[24:25] to make for the property. Um you guys said I I do want to spruce

[24:30] the place up and you know, give it like a fresh new look without changing any of

[24:34] the uh the the

[24:37] architecture design. Cuz I mean, I value what it looks like and I think it's it's

[24:41] it's a beautiful place. So, um I have Charlie here who's been in

[24:46] construction and contracting for like 25 years plus.

[24:49] And you know, he's going to help me actually

[24:52] you know, get the place going and upkeep going.

[24:56] » Okay. I have a question. >> I'm sorry. Can I say a few words?

[24:58] » Please. >> So, one of our wheel houses is historic

[25:02] properties. And our goal is to restore this place to its original glory.

[25:08] And obviously there's a lot of rotten wood, soffits, fascia that needs to be

[25:14] addressed. But we're going to start with the exterior facade.

[25:18] Eventually the windows are going to need to be replaced cuz they're single pane.

[25:22] It's losing a lot of energy. At some point we're going to identify with our

[25:26] infrared gun where we need to drill holes and inject foam.

[25:31] And not sure if the red and green is the

[25:36] original historic color. Doesn't really look good, but

[25:41] with the color of the brick, the tan stucco

[25:44] definitely goes, but we would be willing to work with the historical society to

[25:48] make this place grand again. And that's our goal. And

[25:51] then eventually we're we need to make a couple of the bathrooms inside on the

[25:56] first floor and second floor ADA compliant. A ramp for his mother and his

[26:00] aunt that are not doing well. And

[26:04] update the inside, make it still keep it looking old and I'm not sure if

[26:13] Victorian's the the the great Tudor maybe English Tudor.

[26:19] Uh but keeping that

[26:23] kind of Dora style trim, floor boards,

[26:27] wallpaper, paint colors, stuff like that. And possibly

[26:32] if it's in the budget, moving those sprinkler systems on the first floor and

[26:36] the second floor up into the ceiling so they're

[26:38] a little more attractive.

[26:42] » Comments or questions for the petitioner or the contractor?

[26:47] » Um Thanks for your comments. I That's

[26:51] great. I mean I think a big part of why we wanted

[26:55] » [clears throat] >> you know, get something in there is is

[26:58] you know, we want to maintain the historical integrity of the building.

[27:01] And so, it's good to hear you speak about that.

[27:05] Um and you know, both interior and exterior. I mean, the exterior is

[27:08] beautiful. The interior is you probably even more beautiful with all the

[27:11] built-ins and everything like that. So, um that's great to hear. Um obviously as

[27:16] an older building, it does need work. And um

[27:19] so, that's good. Um at the last meeting, you spoke a little bit about sort of why

[27:23] you wanted to do this. And I I think perhaps most of or everybody's

[27:29] heard that before. But maybe if you could just quickly sort of reiterate.

[27:33] » Sure. So, um

[27:35] my main purpose of purchasing this property is because I'm a primary

[27:38] caretaker for my mom and two of my aunts.

[27:41] Um and right now like I have experience in the construction and property

[27:46] management. You know, uh but I had to kind of put my

[27:49] life on hold to take care of them from one nursing facility to another to make

[27:52] sure they're getting fed and getting taken care of.

[27:56] So, this property is uh a

[28:01] I saw this property like 5 years ago when I first started becoming a a

[28:04] caretaker for my aunt. Unfortunately, at the time I couldn't

[28:07] acquire it. But now that I have you know, the means to acquire it,

[28:12] you know, I wanted to you know, um like bring

[28:17] like all my family that's needs care into one under one roof.

[28:22] Um as

[28:24] like I said before, it's not just an investment. It's like a purpose for me.

[28:27] And it uh is mainly because uh I saw my dad suffer and pass away in 6 months

[28:32] being in a nursing facility. And I don't want my mom or my aunt,

[28:37] who's already in a nursing facility right now, to

[28:40] go about that route. Um

[28:43] and I'm really passionate about this. I'm trying

[28:46] to be aggressive about it because um you know, like now it's like I have

[28:50] my what what one of my aunts is in hospice care now. So, like you know,

[28:54] like I want to bring her home and have her with the family and not be inside of

[28:58] a like a nursing home, but just like a hospital,

[29:02] you know? So, that's my goal.

[29:05] » And so, your intention would be for your your aunt and parents to

[29:09] live in there and then you your personal family, you know, immediate family would

[29:13] be there as well. Is that >> No, so if you I have me, my mom, and my

[29:17] two aunts. >> Okay.

[29:18] » I would keep the tenants that are already there. I'm just using that as a

[29:21] means to like ask >> Sure.

[29:24] » But >> my yeah, my my immediate family. Yeah,

[29:26] yeah. >> Yeah.

[29:26] » Yeah, my immediate family. >> Okay.

[29:29] Great. And there's there's note of uh eight

[29:35] short-term um and three apartments, right? So,

[29:40] there's no change that you're seeing on the

[29:45] eight short-term rental. >> No, either way yeah.

[29:49] Just the exterior, but I'm uh as far as the rental units are

[29:53] concerned, that's

[29:56] what I'm going to utilize to supplement my uh caregiving costs for my for my

[30:01] family. And that's you know, that's the opportunity that I see in it.

[30:04] » Any increase in that number would have to be approved by the village board. And

[30:08] then are we checking that? Are we main main just making sure that we're

[30:13] compliant? Does that Does that Does that Thomas.

[30:17] » Thomas, what would the compliance structure look like?

[30:21] Like >> We'll do an annual inspection.

[30:24] » Okay. >> We'll do an annual inspection.

[30:25] » Yeah. So, So, the second second floor has four

[30:31] bedrooms that are currently rented and occupied. So, those tenants will be

[30:35] uh vacated and his family will move in in those particular bedrooms.

[30:43] » Tracy, what about you? You had a question?

[30:44] » Yes, you had a >> paint and there's been some comments and

[30:47] some concerns from some neighbors. I believe the property received a paint

[30:51] letter pursuant to the Village of West Dundee and its code. You've addressed

[30:55] touching up the paint, uh swapping out rotted wood, fascia,

[30:59] things like that. Uh there's also a ongoing privacy fence

[31:04] in the parking lot off of the Oregon Street. Is that something that's going

[31:09] to be immediately rectified to? >> If that's what you want us to do,

[31:13] absolutely.

[31:16] I don't know what we're not going to touch up the paint. We're going to

[31:19] repaint the entire place. We would like to go with a different color scheme cuz

[31:23] the red and green does not go well with the brick. So, we would be willing to

[31:28] I would be hard-pressed to be certain that that was the original

[31:33] historical paint color. We'll restore it to any color you would like, but

[31:37] particular paint colors don't go well with the curved brick.

[31:41] » Director Scott, is that something ARC would opine on?

[31:44] » It can. >> Okay.

[31:47] So, Trusty Werbrunn, if I'm hearing you correctly, I think

[31:50] if I read your body language correctly, you'd like some specificity on the

[31:53] repair matters. >> If this board was to approve it, it

[31:57] would be I would hope that it would be contingent upon repairing the privacy

[32:01] fence to the spec that of village standard as

[32:05] well as address the paint letter that any resident would have to do.

[32:09] » Understood. Is that something we could stipulate in

[32:13] the approval or in the motion for approval?

[32:17] » Yeah, you could you could make it contingent upon both of those items.

[32:20] Yeah. >> And I'm hearing from you there's no

[32:22] objection for fixing repairing the fence.

[32:25] » Absolutely not. We'll We'll repair the fence. We're going to replace all the

[32:28] rotted wood and then we'll repaint the place

[32:32] to make it look magnificent. So, we we can come to an agreement with the

[32:37] historical society on what that might be, but the current red and green is not

[32:42] » Yeah. Okay.

[32:43] » attractive. >> Okay. Any other comments or questions?

[32:48] Trustee Price. >> Uh I move to approve a license to Taha

[32:52] Azim for continued mixed use res- mixed residential use of 305 Oregon Avenue in

[32:56] accordance village approved special use of ordinance ordinance 2024-19

[33:03] subject to um subject to purchase of the property and

[33:09] village required annual property registration

[33:13] and also of um resolving issues identified in the paint letter and

[33:18] repairing the uh privacy fence with it uh adjoins the neighbor.

[33:24] » Motion. >> And a second by Trustee Yaska. Any

[33:26] additional to comment? Hearing none, Madam Clerk.

[33:30] » Trustee Price. >> Aye.

[33:31] » Trustee Yaska. >> Aye.

[33:33] » Trustee Johnson. >> No.

[33:34] » Trustee Levitt. >> Janice.

[33:35] » Aye. >> Trustee Endres.

[33:38] » Aye. >> Trustee Wilbrandt.

[33:39] » No. >> President Nelson.

[33:42] » Uh I don't have to vote. It's 4 to 2. So, we have four ayes, two nays. Motion

[33:47] carries. Good luck, gentlemen.

[33:49] » Thank you very much. >> Moving on to new business item A, 999

[33:52] West Main Street proposed location for Harvest Bible Chapel. Trustee Price.

[33:56] » Um yeah, we've got in our agenda. We heard a couple of comments from the

[34:01] audience. Um

[34:03] and so I guess I will let staff say a few words about this. They They have

[34:09] » [snorts] >> um come in

[34:11] uh and talked to staff on this and um they're proposing, you know, to

[34:17] open a church. And um

[34:20] anything Joel or Tim anything you want to add to this?

[34:27] And and it looks like maybe that propose

[34:30] » I'm trying to keep the staff review at a high level and make this quick.

[34:58] Okay. And it looks like we have >> representatives here, so

[35:01] » Right. Let me just set the table a little bit.

[35:06] Harvest Bible has approached and is under contract to purchase the space.

[35:12] The basic understanding that the staff has been presented is

[35:16] the conversations are to split the existing Life Zone building into two

[35:21] separate parcels, potentially retaining the east portion

[35:27] against the old Best Buy, which contains, I believe, the gymnastics side

[35:35] of the establishment as is, and because of the honoring the existing leases that

[35:41] are there, that portion of the property would remain taxable, and then Harvest

[35:46] Bible would operate out of the west side, approximately 100,000 square feet

[35:51] of the 100 25,000 square foot building that is

[35:57] there. And then I'll just kind of turn it over to the representatives from

[36:01] Harvest Bible to kind of let them go through their presentation.

[36:06] » Yeah, thank you so much. Um We're we're excited about the

[36:10] opportunity to be here today because we are looking at what can Harvest Bible

[36:15] Chapel, as we think about these days ahead, we want to come alongside and

[36:20] support the community and offer programs that'll be a

[36:23] a greater impact for what you're trying to accomplish in the community. So,

[36:28] we're trying to be a partner with you. And so, that's what really attracted us

[36:32] to 999 Main Street was the opportunity to uh already see some programs that

[36:38] that exist that are really going well. And so, we're working with the owner to

[36:43] figure out how some of those uh can continue inside the building.

[36:47] Um and and like what uh

[36:50] Joe said, we get the taxable side of the building and continue to pay the TIF and

[36:55] uh those taxes that we are related to that.

[36:58] Um I hear some of the some of the comments

[37:01] of traffic, and we would love to work with any um

[37:05] assessors that you would have to to uh guide us through all that. We don't want

[37:10] to be uh having people traveling through the neighborhoods. We'd like to uh

[37:15] control the traffic flow in and out of the building so that it won't um

[37:19] uh have any impact direct impact into the community. So, presently we have

[37:24] about 400 cars that pull into our uh church up on Randall Road, and we

[37:29] have uh a way to guide people in. We have traffic teams that uh guide people

[37:34] in and out of the facility so that it doesn't disturb Randall Road or any of

[37:38] the existing communities around it. So, we try to make sure that we're um a good

[37:43] neighbor in that way as well. As it relates to um

[37:47] uh programs, that's what we would love to learn more about in these days ahead

[37:51] of what it is that might be of greater assistance to the community that we

[37:55] could be offering inside of. So, there's right now a gymnastics, there's the

[37:59] Chicago Health that would continue to stay there on the tax side of things.

[38:03] Then we're looking at what programs could we add to uh the facility that

[38:07] would be uh an enhancement to the community.

[38:10] » Thank you. Coming to questions from the board.

[38:14] Um I had a couple questions. So, we heard about traffic impacts. I mean, you

[38:18] know, a lot of stores, everybody has, you know, those kinds of numbers, um I

[38:23] think. I think the difference being with an assembly use like that is just

[38:27] everybody's leaving and coming at the exactly the same time or roughly the

[38:31] exact same time. And so, my concern would be is just how do you control

[38:36] where that many people are going? And we're abutted by two residential

[38:40] neighborhoods. So, you know, what is Do we [clears throat] need police, for

[38:44] example, to be directing traffic? And so, that'd be a cost to us as village.

[38:50] » Um if we're having to staff, you know, these every Sunday.

[38:54] » Um I would say presently we have um

[38:57] anywhere between 10 and 12 people at our Randall at our campus on Randall Road.

[39:02] Uh they monitor the traffic going in and out and make sure that people are parked

[39:06] in an orderly way. And so, uh the traffic flow actually has been really

[39:10] managed. And we would look at Main Street as being that very same thing. We

[39:14] could direct them out to the light. We could also direct them out and they

[39:17] would go um would that be east on on Main Street because

[39:21] » Do you have people that direct traffic? >> Uh they don't go out They don't go out

[39:25] in the street. They don't have access to uh road access. But

[39:28] » Yeah, but like maybe at the end the exits

[39:31] » and exit of the >> people are turning their correct way.

[39:34] » lot so that we can make sure that everything is done in an orderly

[39:37] fashion. >> Okay.

[39:38] » There's two ingress and egresses uh to this site, both at lighted

[39:42] intersections. There is a a right in right out. Uh there are, you know,

[39:47] within the Chicagoland area, there are a number of um special details that uh

[39:52] municipalities enter into uh with uh uh congregations or even users of this

[39:59] size. Uh and those are worked out typically as a reimbur- on a

[40:02] reimbursement basis. >> That would uh help. Um what what would

[40:07] be the implications of this on our TIF? Um they're not

[40:13] paying Well, one, just like I don't you know, TIF I understand how TIF works.

[40:17] you know, the increment come kind of comes to uh

[40:20] » Yeah. um goes into the TIF. Uh but when they're

[40:24] sort of a non-for-profit, they're not paying the TIF. And then also just sort

[40:27] of on the property value calculation >> Right. But as we've mentioned, as was

[40:31] mentioned I think uh to the board previously, we're working proposing a

[40:36] development agreement that would provide an extended period of time of payment in

[40:40] lieu of taxes specifically to cover uh at a minimum the existing

[40:45] uh uh property tax bill that exists on the

[40:48] property. >> But would that not cover the TIF

[40:50] » How does that cover the >> Like the way TIF works.

[40:53] » The TIF the current EAV on the property is included within that

[41:00] number. >> Okay.

[41:01] » So that would be the total within that 90. The breakdown is X amount to TIF, X

[41:05] amount to West Dundee, X amount to schools.

[41:07] » Correct. >> And that would stay this. They would go.

[41:10] Um okay. And then I think I can um you mentioned in the memo

[41:15] » Like for how long that was I'm sorry I don't recall. Um is that something that

[41:19] » It's that a number of years. >> Okay. So we we could revisit that or put

[41:23] a number of years on it. >> Right. If you would like I mean there

[41:25] are reasons why I'm not putting it in in writing, but I've shared with uh uh

[41:30] certain board members the number of but it is uh substantial number of years. So

[41:35] about 15 years has been what's been put on the table initially.

[41:39] » Okay. Um and

[41:44] Yeah, and I guess >> Yes.

[41:46] » You know, just I I'm I'm to be honest I'm sort of on

[41:49] the fence with this and I think that's one reason to send it to planning and

[41:53] zoning to get their input um on it. Um the only I guess maybe the thing would

[41:59] be is just you know, worthy of doing a little bit of a poll amongst ourselves

[42:03] cuz I hate to send it to planning and zoning if you know, I just want to make

[42:06] sure that there's at least some level of support. Um and so

[42:12] » [snorts] >> I'd love to see what planning and zoning

[42:14] has to say. >> Yeah, my my my comments I think echo a

[42:18] lot of what I think it was Debbie that said that.

[42:21] So, can I ask a couple questions? What time is your worship on Sundays?

[42:28] » Currently, it's at 10:00, but different campuses are different times. So, we

[42:33] we're open to looking at those as well.

[42:36] » Yeah, cuz you're going to have 400 One thing is traffic. That was one of my

[42:41] my areas of concern. And you've got St. Catherine's doing nine They do 9:30

[42:46] mass? >> their services. Yeah, yeah.

[42:47] » So, it's it's going to be a lot of moving parts from that

[42:53] perspective. The other issue was the tax that you you brought up and then making

[42:58] sure that that's included, but there's also

[43:01] foregone It's it's it's zoned

[43:06] business, right? And we're foregoing a lot of the sales tax revenue and and

[43:11] that, too, as well, because that used to be one of the, you know, Target used to

[43:17] generate a ton of ton of

[43:21] sales tax, too. Um, from that perspective. Um,

[43:27] and yeah, I just want to make sure that it's

[43:31] Um, I'm on the fence on this one, too. In terms of

[43:36] um, flushing out There's a lot of incremental expenses

[43:41] that I can see, you know, in terms of support. So, from the village that are

[43:46] required. And I just want to make sure that we're

[43:50] we have a cohesive plan to to address those in terms of safety, in terms of

[43:56] um >> [snorts]

[43:58] » I don't think in terms of other types of support.

[44:00] » Thank you. Just use this. I don't think there's any opposition to a remand.

[44:04] » Did Does else have any >> And if I can just

[44:07] say If I can just address Ms. Box's questions briefly,

[44:12] the village and I totally understand with the gymnastics inside the building,

[44:15] but they own their building, we do not. We don't dictate their use unless it

[44:21] comes to something like this where they have the right to sell their building.

[44:25] So, they may continue that use with the gymnastics in part of the building, but

[44:32] nothing that we can do can kind of tell them how to use their building like

[44:35] that. So, >> It's very concerning for

[44:39] There's a lot of sports events there. >> Right.

[44:42] » And there is no replacement for it. So, coming into this community and

[44:47] eliminating all of that and just taking it away with no resolution

[44:50] » Good. >> with

[44:52] with no benefit. >> So, we would like

[44:55] Yeah, so we actually want to add So, we want to We would love to work with the

[44:59] current owner and figure out where we could have that gymnastics and in the

[45:04] facility because we know that is a value add, and we actually are going to keep

[45:08] that middle section totally community facing and offer

[45:13] different sport programs, whatever we find that is most helpful for the

[45:16] community. We only want to be value add. So, the side that has the Adrenaline

[45:20] Monkey, that's where the worship center will be, but but what you will see in

[45:24] the remainder of the building is just a bunch of continued add added on features

[45:29] like basketball and volleyball and pickleball and different things that

[45:34] might be a value add. We like to learn more of what might be helpful for the

[45:37] community to have available inside the building then. So, that's what we would

[45:41] like to do. >> It's funny you know that's not what some

[45:43] of your congregation members are saying and telling

[45:47] at practices. There's a big conversation

[45:52] about eliminating sports programs. >> Miss, you know what, we are if this gets

[45:56] remanded, there'll be a lot of opportunity to have this discussion, and

[45:59] I would suggest if you are intent, maybe have a discussion offline, but that is

[46:03] not the purpose of tonight's meeting. Trustee Price, you have the floor.

[46:07] » Yeah, so I guess vote will say whether we

[46:11] go to planning zoning. So I will make the motion

[46:16] move to refer to planning and zoning commission a concept for potential

[46:20] adaptive reuse of the building at 999 West Main Street for a church and

[46:25] potential changes to the West Dundee zoning code related to places of

[46:29] assembly >> including places of worship.

[46:31] » Motion. >> Second.

[46:32] » Second by Trustee Yaska. Any additional discussion or comment?

[46:37] Hearing none, Madam Clerk. >> Trustee Price.

[46:39] » Aye. >> Trustee Yaska.

[46:40] » Aye. >> Trustee Johnson.

[46:42] » No. >> Trustee LaPagianas.

[46:44] » Aye. >> Trustee Anderley.

[46:46] » No. >> Trustee Wilbrandt.

[46:47] » Aye.

[46:50] » Four ayes, two nays. Motion carries. Good luck, gentlemen.

[46:53] » Thank you. Thank you. >> Moving on to item B, Public Safety

[46:56] Center 3 Conceptual Design Plans. Trustee Wilbrandt.

[47:01] » What is in your packet? I There's no motion at the end of it, so I think it's

[47:04] just a discussion and a review of the process and stages.

[47:09] Lots of representatives coming forward here.

[47:14] As well as Director Scott and Chief Green. Uh

[47:19] what is a good background and a timeline to our current position as well as

[47:27] a generic overall

[47:31] what is tabbed option six along with square footage

[47:35] uh upper discussion tonight is aesthetics as far as the the the prairie

[47:41] concept as well as the square footage that it's going to be ongoing

[47:47] of a discussion to try to get somewhere closer to 38,000 to 39,000 square feet.

[47:53] Funding options uh through tip districts and other mechanisms and RFPs for

[47:59] construction moving forward. So, I can turn it over to you, Joe.

[48:04] » Good evening, trustees. Thanks for having us. Um Andy Dogan and Mark Roddy

[48:07] from Williams Architects. We also have um as part of our team um Ben Herring

[48:12] from Erickson Engineering tonight and Jeff Montanari from Leopardo

[48:15] Construction who um is on our team to provide cost estimating services. So,

[48:20] tonight we're really just here to give you an update on where we are in the

[48:23] process and solicit feedback. Um we realize the design is um a process um

[48:29] that requires a lot of input um from your staff um and from you as

[48:33] elected officials. So, um that is really our goal for this evening to um show you

[48:37] where we are and listen intently um for feedback so the project um is is on the

[48:43] right track. So, realizing that um this is our first

[48:47] time in the room since we interviewed for the project, there's um quite a few

[48:50] things we want to bring you up to speed with um

[48:53] to um

[48:55] tell everybody how we got to where we are tonight and um so you don't have to

[48:59] listen to me the entire time, we'll break up the presentation into a few um

[49:04] different parts. One of the first things we did um as as

[49:08] I'm sure you're aware is um embark on a process of validating um the space needs

[49:15] study that was completed by a previous um firm for um for this this police

[49:21] station. So, um in in so doing, we had several discussions um with staff to

[49:28] review their needs for the facility, um review how the department works, review

[49:33] anticipated future growth, review best practices in um in public safety to um

[49:39] arrive at the space needs. And um the way that we do this is through a series

[49:44] of processes and discussions where we look at an absolute ideal. If we could

[49:51] do everything that would serve um the needs to the best of um our ability,

[49:56] we would arrive at one square footage and then we also look at a target given

[50:01] the the likely budget for the project and

[50:05] what is understood to be the project budget.

[50:10] We look at way ways to bring the project to a square footage that we believe

[50:16] aligns with the budget discussions we've been having. So, to quickly recap, the

[50:22] police department is working out of just under 8,500 square feet right now. Our

[50:26] target, again, the ideal of the plan is approaching 44,000 square

[50:33] feet. We are very confident in our discussions with staff to date

[50:40] to meet needs and to align with budget realities that we will be able to bring

[50:44] the project in around that 37,000 square foot

[50:49] um target. So,

[50:51] we wanted to lead with that and just explain how we got how we got

[50:57] to that point. So, we are our goal is to continue targeting

[51:03] that that 37,000 rough target.

[51:07] So, we are balancing appropriate current and future needs of the department and

[51:11] the community with with the budget objectives.

[51:17] Part of what we also did when we started this project was to tour some other

[51:20] recently completed facilities and I I know that some of you as trustees

[51:25] accompanied us on these tours. We looked at the police station in Arlington

[51:29] Heights that was completed a few years back, the Lake in the Hills Police

[51:33] Department that was just literally completed and opened a couple months ago

[51:38] and the South Elgin Police Department that's very

[51:41] very new. So, in so doing we were able to get some great feedback from both

[51:46] trustees and staff as to what they liked aesthetically, what they liked about the

[51:51] plans, questions, concerns. These are three very different buildings

[51:56] that um that serve the same mission yet went

[51:59] about it in very different ways. So, I thought this was a good exercise to get

[52:03] everybody into what we were

[52:08] what what we're looking at and some some of what's happening out there.

[52:12] Um one of the things I want to mention as

[52:15] we set up this discussion and I'm actually, if it's okay Mr. Herring, I

[52:18] want to turn it over you to talk about the site. Um one of the things I want to

[52:22] mention that we also discussed very early in the process

[52:26] is um the

[52:29] idea of the height of the building and different options. Um

[52:32] in other words, um is this a one-story building? Is this a one-story building

[52:36] plus a basement? A two-story building? A two-story building plus a basement? Part

[52:40] of our initial um analysis in conjunction with um our cost

[52:46] estimating team was to look at all of those different options for these target

[52:50] square footages and we were able to very conclusively determine that um a

[52:55] single-story concept um is not only the most cost-effective but in discussions

[53:01] with the um with the chief and his staff um that the

[53:07] plan was also the most efficient um for for public safety operations. So, I did

[53:12] want to address that but um I will step out way and um

[53:16] give the floor to Mr. Herring to talk about the site.

[53:21] » Andy, is it this or that one?

[53:27] To the site. >> Yes.

[53:28] » Okay. I can make the mouse work but it doesn't seem to work

[53:31] on that. >> All right.

[53:33] » Can you Can you forward Andy? If not, I'll just stand.

[53:40] There

[53:45] All right. Um first off, uh Ben Eering Erickson Engineering, thanks for having

[53:49] us. Uh this site here, uh you see we worked with uh your staff uh to allocate

[53:56] this parcel on this area for the police station. Uh

[54:01] it it the intent here is for most of the people who are coming to the site to

[54:07] come from the right-hand side or the east side and

[54:11] basically come from either the north or the south and have an access point at uh

[54:18] at the front where you can see them enter in. Uh

[54:22] there's going to be overflow parking to the north. This we imagine will

[54:26] primarily be used when the police are having training events.

[54:32] Then you'll also see in the back of the house, you'll see some uh additional

[54:36] parking. This is going to be under a fence and under a secured parking area.

[54:41] And this is where the police uh officers will park their personal vehicles as

[54:46] well as have some of their um fleet vehicles. Uh there are there's

[54:52] also some fleet vehicles that would be going in the building uh

[54:56] as well. The primary access for the police would be to the separate entrance

[55:02] that you can see going off kind of in the northwest or top left corner.

[55:08] New pointer. All right.

[55:11] Yeah, there we go.

[55:14] Um so, coming off right over here would be the main police access. And one of

[55:19] the reasons we do this is we want the police to be able to get out as quickly

[55:24] as can if they can if a call comes in and they need more vehicles on the

[55:29] street than what's already out there right now. So, this gives them a

[55:32] secondary entrance where we don't worry about them having to come through a

[55:37] potential populated area. The fencing would be placed right along

[55:42] here, come right around, go around this end, and close back off up here, making

[55:47] this whole back area secure. The other thing and then again I had

[55:52] mentioned the additional parking is right here. We also want to make this

[55:56] pedestrian friendly. So, we figure most people who are walking will be coming

[56:01] off of this street. We have it's hard to see here, but a table if you will. We

[56:06] raise up the grade of the pavement 6 in so that there is a flush walkway from

[56:13] this sidewalk along the roadway to this location.

[56:19] And that is basically the layout of the site from a circulation standpoint. We

[56:24] are holding a place right here for a plaza. That plaza will need to go

[56:29] back and forth, get into more detail about what the village wants to see,

[56:35] where flagpoles go, is there any sort of memorial or anything like that. I can

[56:40] get the landscape architecture team involved in helping plan that space for

[56:45] for usage. That is the main thought for the track

[56:50] for the plot of land. You'll kind of see here this is all heavy duty pavement the

[56:54] start color heavy duty pavement. This is for

[56:58] your vehicles as well as the garbage which we imagine a trash enclosure being

[57:03] back here. Everything else is regular duty pavement

[57:07] with a little bit of concrete at this table and back here by

[57:14] the trash enclosure. So, that's how the site looks to

[57:18] basically operate. We've also given some space up here for some sort of use

[57:24] public space as well. >> Can you go back to the previous? I just

[57:29] want to see on your map one more time. >> This previous one?

[57:33] » Go previous to the >> previous slide. And one thing you'll

[57:36] look at with right below next, right click. Oh, no. Right click.

[57:41] Previous, one one below. I know this.

[57:45] » You got it, Tim? >> Tim's got it.

[57:48] » Do it. >> You got it?

[57:50] » Oh, go to previous again. >> I'm going to get

[57:52] » Looks >> I got

[57:54] that one. >> There you go.

[57:56] » So, in what

[57:59] Yeah, we'll be a little bit north of that red dot. What you what you'll

[58:02] notice here um is a lot of these roadways are going

[58:06] to be reconfigured, and that is still getting worked out uh worked out. There

[58:11] is when you go on the site a decent elevation change.

[58:14] Uh when I when I stand and look out at the site, there's about 6 7 ft. We've

[58:18] taken those thoughts into consideration when looking to design

[58:22] uh just very roughly to make sure that we can accommodate those, so there

[58:26] aren't any real surprises uh when we come when we come to the design of the

[58:31] facility. And if you go to the slide ahead, one thing that's actually nice

[58:36] with the elevation change is that this building will most likely be

[58:41] slightly higher than this. So, we'll have this fencing around here

[58:45] that just adds another layer of protection for the police having them

[58:49] sit up a little bit higher in that back of house area.

[58:56] With that, I'm tossing it back to

[59:05] » Okay, and as we segue into floor plans, um before I turn it over to my colleague

[59:09] um Mark, um one of the things that um we really thought about in addition to just

[59:15] the placement of the building on the site was the overall organization and

[59:20] the views that um we would have out of some of the public spaces. So, um what

[59:26] you're seeing um that um, that entrance to to the bottom of this plan here is

[59:31] actually oriented northeast, um, and, um, Mark will take us through the

[59:35] training, um, the floor plan in the training space in the second, but one of

[59:39] the really real benefits of this orientation is we're able to have the

[59:43] true public space that's, um, training and community room, um, with a nice

[59:47] northeast, um, orientation, which is going to be absolutely wonderful for,

[59:51] um, for daylight. Um, we won't have glare, um, during times when that's most

[59:56] likely to be used, and, um, it'll really present a really nice face, um, not only

[1:00:04] towards the, um, the rest of the redevelopment of Spring Hill, but, um, I

[1:00:09] I'm on all four sides. We think the building will be a good neighbor, um, no

[1:00:13] matter which way we go with the, um, with the exterior directions, um, which

[1:00:17] we'll get to in a moment, but, um, first of all, I'll turn it over to Mark to

[1:00:21] talk us through the organ- the plan and the organization of the plan.

[1:00:25] » So, as Andy mentioned, you know, the whole thing is a process, and our first

[1:00:29] portion of the process was developing the program in that 37 to 40-something

[1:00:34] thousand square foot range. Once we achieved that, we moved to what we call

[1:00:38] bubble diagrams. And so, uh, those basically are not attempting to show all

[1:00:42] of the rooms, they're showing the major spaces. So, for example, on each

[1:00:47] program, we had every, uh, area color coded. The color coding, uh, legend is

[1:00:51] on the upper left. So, you could kind of flip to the written program and say,

[1:00:55] "Okay, light blue, that's the patrol division. Uh, the green in the lower

[1:00:59] right, that's all of the, uh, you know, community, training, and wellness area."

[1:01:03] So, we developed, I believe by the time we're done, we had nine of these. And as

[1:01:07] Andy mentioned, uh, every permutation you could have of,

[1:01:12] uh, one, two, three floors and a basement. And I think the original

[1:01:15] thought was they wanted to make sure there was enough presence to the

[1:01:18] building. But, what happened was the floor plan is not enormous at 30

[1:01:23] something thousand square foot and trying to divide it over two to three

[1:01:26] floors, it really became a very small footprint. So, the building is obviously

[1:01:30] going to be taller than a typical residential units. So, the building we

[1:01:34] will show you those 3D options in a minute here. I think it's got really

[1:01:38] great presence and it's going to really show. And you know, the beauty of the

[1:01:40] one-story scheme is no elevators, no stairs, just saves money, everybody's

[1:01:46] together. And basically, and all of the concepts, well, not all of them,

[1:01:50] most of them, we try to do a central concourse. If you look in the middle of

[1:01:53] the drawing, it's very light cream color. Yeah, maybe you can do the

[1:01:56] pointer. You can hardly see it. We've got a nice organizing element that runs

[1:02:00] left to right on there. And so, you've got, as Annie mentioned, the the

[1:02:04] visitors would come to the front. You come into the lobby and there would be,

[1:02:08] of course, secure doors and whatnot. But now you've got a nice organizing

[1:02:11] element. And so, you've got the various departments, records and command along

[1:02:15] the front, special ops, uh patrol in the back. And then the upper right corner is

[1:02:20] more of the back of the house, you know, it's the sally port, it's the uh

[1:02:24] evidence storage, uh things like that. And at the very top or back, we have the

[1:02:29] heated vehicle storage. We have a certain amount that would be at the base

[1:02:33] bid, meaning you would get it, and then the other portion to the right, which is

[1:02:38] hard to see that line, would be an alternate bid. So, you know, we would

[1:02:41] design it in such a way that if the bids come in favorable and the board so

[1:02:44] chooses, we would build a larger garage. I think with that, we didn't bring all

[1:02:49] nine versions tonight, but the next step is after we got uh

[1:02:53] got good feedback and we went with this, then we developed it to what looks like

[1:02:57] a floor plan. And the color coding continues to be the same, and I'm

[1:03:00] certainly not going to walk you through all the rooms.

[1:03:03] Certain things as we, when you work on this uh type of a project, you will find

[1:03:07] spaces you may not have had in the initial. So, I'll give you an example,

[1:03:11] there's a couple large toilet rooms, maybe you can point to the center.

[1:03:14] I'll be honest, that wasn't in the program. And as we talked about it, you

[1:03:17] know, staff and we realized we should have some nice staff toilet rooms there.

[1:03:21] So, original things in the program we had a lot of individual toilets, we

[1:03:24] decided to group them together. So, the plan kind of ebbs and flows as

[1:03:28] we uh work through it, but the same concept. So, again, front door to the

[1:03:32] middle, uh records to the left, that's all the administration. Left of that,

[1:03:37] again, you can see an entry in the far left of the concourse and the right side

[1:03:42] of the concourse. Very nice uh where you can come in the

[1:03:45] front doors and you can visit the lobby, but you would be stopped, if you will,

[1:03:51] during the day by some doors. But, if you want to come into the uh the

[1:03:54] community room to the right, we have a little separate quarter out front there.

[1:03:59] And I think Ben mentioned we'll put some sort of plaza out there. So, if you have

[1:04:03] a nice evening, like tonight, there's some sort of event or some sort of

[1:04:06] ceremony, you could pull out to the I won't say south, but to the bottom of

[1:04:10] the sheet and enjoy the plaza, things like that. Landscaping, outside tables,

[1:04:14] etc. Uh upper left corner is mostly wellness,

[1:04:18] locker rooms, etc. We've got sort of the special operations, detectives in the

[1:04:23] blue in the lower left. Patrol is at the back. It's very nice. They would all

[1:04:27] come into that parking lot Ben mentioned, which would be in the upper

[1:04:30] left corner. Come in with your gear bags, come in as

[1:04:33] their own separate vestibule, go down their own patrol quarter, we can drop

[1:04:37] off the gear bags. We've got a mud room there. We've got different cubicles. And

[1:04:41] then again, to the right there, you start hitting the evidence storage area,

[1:04:45] long-term storage. To the right of that, it's hard to see but, you know, that's

[1:04:49] the detention area, the sally port, things like that. Uh and then the middle

[1:04:54] area is more some common spaces. And there is a training uh the green box on

[1:04:58] the right, there's like a training It's like a black box space, so we will black

[1:05:02] it out, they'll be able to bring in uh actual props and do different types of

[1:05:05] training in there. So, that's really the floor plan in a nutshell. Again, you can

[1:05:09] see at the top a little more detail. We have space for I think it's 12 or 14

[1:05:13] vehicles. And then to the right that could be if the alternate bid was

[1:05:17] accepted, you could see we could fit in the whole fleet. So, uh that's

[1:05:21] everything on that.

[1:05:26] Now, here is

[1:05:28] we want to preface this. Um the old days you would make study models

[1:05:33] out of cardboard or foam core and things like that to give you an idea of the

[1:05:37] shape, the massing, the size. So, we developed some simple SketchUp

[1:05:43] models, if you will. And I believe we came with six.

[1:05:47] And staff feedback, village feedback, I think we narrowed it down down to four,

[1:05:52] brought it back another time, got some good input input, and we decided to

[1:05:55] bring two versions tonight. This is by no means design, it's not showing

[1:06:00] material, it's really just trying to give you a good sense of heights,

[1:06:04] relationships, roof pitches, things like that. And so, the first one we're

[1:06:08] calling more of a contemporary and we're just going to let it play.

[1:06:12] It's just much easier to see that. So, that just gives you kind of a feeling of

[1:06:16] what the building, you know, shape and size and heights would look like.

[1:06:23] So, you can see the concourse is a long rectangular piece that's kind

[1:06:28] of taller by that clock tower at the back left corner.

[1:06:32] And that continues out nice glassy space. The perimeter spaces all start

[1:06:37] lower at the outer wall and then they slope up. In the garage, you can see

[1:06:41] we've got another roof sloping up so that's a nice natural northeast or north

[1:06:46] light coming into the space there. Some sort of a tower element could have a

[1:06:50] clock on it um like we have here. Uh but that's just kind of an overall there's a

[1:06:54] bird's-eye view of it. So, that's more of a traditional but yet contemporary.

[1:06:59] I wouldn't say modern, but it's definitely, you know, something a little

[1:07:02] more contemporary than say the building we're in tonight. Then the second option

[1:07:06] here is uh we're going to call it prairie style. And most people know what

[1:07:10] a Well, you're going to have to get the next

[1:07:15] That's going to be your more traditional option. People are very familiar. There

[1:07:18] it is. And in a prairie style, we would kept

[1:07:21] the same massing. You've got your hipped roofs, which is

[1:07:25] kind of those pyramidal shaped roofs, you know, where all four sides slope up.

[1:07:29] Roof pitches are lower. They're typically 4 12 in a prairie style.

[1:07:33] There'd be more columns and masonry detailing. And again, these simple white

[1:07:38] massing models aren't really here to get to the level of detail that we will

[1:07:42] eventually get to once we get into schematic design. But just to really

[1:07:45] show you how the same floor plan could be expressed in a different exterior

[1:07:50] style.

[1:08:02] So, that's where we uh that's where we come to tonight with two

[1:08:05] options. So, do we want to pause? Do we want to get

[1:08:08] any dialogue going ongoing? >> I think um I I think you know, we're we

[1:08:15] are just about wrapped up. Um what I what I want to emphasize is that we are

[1:08:20] still in a conceptual process. Um you know, if we're using a football analogy

[1:08:24] in terms of um going down field um scoring the

[1:08:28] touchdown, which um means the facility is um

[1:08:32] is open and being used. Um we're still on the 10 10-yard line moving down

[1:08:37] field. We are um we are in a very preliminary stage and um the

[1:08:43] exterior options we show everything we're showing tonight is um is up for

[1:08:48] discussion. Um we're genuinely interested in your feedback and your

[1:08:52] preferences. Um we have heard it all as

[1:08:55] professionals. Um so, we encourage you to be very honest with us about um

[1:09:00] um what you'd like to see and what you not like to see and we'll take that

[1:09:05] under advisement and keep working on it. So, we're looking

[1:09:09] for your feedback tonight. There is really nothing we're looking for in

[1:09:11] terms of approval. Just just

[1:09:15] general consensus and direction. We'll be back before you at least one

[1:09:19] other time to show you where we are where we've gone with this after what we

[1:09:23] hear from you tonight. From there, we would proceed into the rest of the

[1:09:28] project. design and design development. And as Manager Cavallaro mentioned in

[1:09:34] his packet, that's the time where we would also

[1:09:38] look to bring a construction manager at risk on board

[1:09:41] to help us with cost estimating, value engineering and scheduling the project

[1:09:46] and as we move through that process, make sure that scope and budget are

[1:09:51] aligned. We put construction documents together and put the project out to bid.

[1:09:56] So, that is where we are.

[1:09:58] » Thank you. And then thank you for the presentation. So, Village Board, this is

[1:10:02] obviously it's a big project and it's new to all of us. So, I think we're just

[1:10:05] kind of taking a 35,000 foot view of this tonight. So, I mean it I guess

[1:10:10] maybe we just opine on whether or not it's kind of

[1:10:13] heading the right direction. What I would suggest for the team going forward

[1:10:16] when we have this come back, uh, let's maybe just have it as a committee the

[1:10:21] whole and it be the only thing we talk about that night. Just so we have, you

[1:10:25] know, the the mental energy and time to do it. But tonight, I think it's just,

[1:10:29] you know, we're getting that 10-yard view. Uh,

[1:10:32] anyone have any major concerns? >> By the 10-yard line, you mean 10 yards

[1:10:37] going >> Yeah, we're we're just we were on the

[1:10:40] goal line. Now we >> We got another 90 yards to go.

[1:10:41] » We're still backed up. >> Yeah, just just want to clarify that.

[1:10:46] » I just have a just a basic question. Is the intention to have everything

[1:10:51] as far as the plumbing and all that concealed? Is it going to be pipe chases

[1:10:55] in it or do you have any front access on your fixtures?

[1:10:58] » to be to be very honest, we're not to that phase yet, but

[1:11:01] generally generally yes, we have pipe chases. Anything that we expect to be

[1:11:07] frequently maintained, we always design for durability and for access

[1:11:12] to make sure that when, not if, there's an issue, we're able to get at it.

[1:11:16] » I would say this though, on a more contemporary scheme, it's not unheard of

[1:11:20] to have more exposed structure, beams, duct work, conduit, things like that.

[1:11:25] Done well, of course, but yes. In a traditional prairie style, it's going to

[1:11:29] be more ceilings, finished wood trim, things

[1:11:32] like that. >> But if they needed to access anything to

[1:11:35] go within the cell itself, would it be front access or pipe chase?

[1:11:42] » I can answer that question. There's usually

[1:11:45] if if we're talking about the detention cells, there's there's always exterior

[1:11:49] access to the plumbing piping from a chase outside the cell.

[1:11:54] » Right. But you're going to gain access behind the You're not having to

[1:11:57] physically go in the cell to make the repair.

[1:11:59] » Correct. There's a little door. >> Correct.

[1:12:00] » The walls are at 45, the two toilets here, and you open a door from

[1:12:04] » Correct. >> You don't have to go into the cell.

[1:12:06] » Okay. >> If the toilet's like

[1:12:07] » Let me save some of the precise questions for as we get further along.

[1:12:11] Any just general impressions anyone wishes to share?

[1:12:15] » I got a couple thoughts and and then um So, we're asking

[1:12:20] you know, we had our first town hall on the mall, which I thought was

[1:12:25] outstanding. Tim, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:12:30] One of the questions in those all of those breakout sessions

[1:12:34] was what residents kind of preferred, and

[1:12:39] you you listed three styles, like I think it was like a transitional and a

[1:12:44] traditional and a contemporary, right? >> It's on a continuum.

[1:12:48] » Yeah. How did I do on that?

[1:12:52] » [clears throat] >> All right. Um I'd be very, very

[1:12:55] interested in finding what kind of the input from that those meetings are,

[1:13:03] right? Um in terms of design style so that

[1:13:09] we're incorporating as much as we can from the from the residents' feedback in

[1:13:14] terms of uh in terms of design style.

[1:13:18] Um I will note that, you know, that I've seen, you know, you pass numbers on, you

[1:13:23] know, 20, 25, and then there was a bond number of 40 to 50. That's a lot of

[1:13:30] money, and um it's going to require, you know, a lot of support if that's, you

[1:13:37] know, if that's the direction we, you know, we choose we ultimately choose

[1:13:42] to go. So, I would I want to do, you know, I know the police station is very,

[1:13:47] very important. We need to get it done, right? But, I'd be cognizant of the fact

[1:13:53] that um you know, the 25 to 30, you know, 25 million or a 40 to 50

[1:13:59] million-dollar bond issue is going to get some resistance from from people in

[1:14:04] the in the community, okay? So, I

[1:14:08] I will note that. Um I like the location behind,

[1:14:13] you know, behind the Jewel there in that in that particular area.

[1:14:17] Um and the space the space of how many the conference

[1:14:24] room space, the shared how many does that seat?

[1:14:28] Um in the >> What? I think 120 people is about 2,400

[1:14:32] square feet, and comfortably 100 to 120.

[1:14:37] » It needs to have a community Yeah, I like that as a community component to to

[1:14:42] what you guys are doing. That's my point.

[1:14:44] » with our public meeting where we want >> Yeah.

[1:14:49] » Emmett's was tight. >> Yeah, Emmett's was [laughter] very

[1:14:51] tight.

[1:14:53] » So, yeah, I I like the plan. I think the biggest thing will be like from an

[1:14:56] architecture standpoint, you know, just context of what we're sort of thinking

[1:15:00] about for the surrounding. I'm sure you've seen sort of the visioning.

[1:15:04] Um so, this being sort of one scale or what I'm sorry, one story, you know,

[1:15:08] it's a little different scale than say a 3 + 1 or something that we're looking at

[1:15:12] for the rest. So, just keeping that in mind, obviously.

[1:15:17] Um as far as you know, sort of the program elements, I defer to the users

[1:15:21] of the of the building that uh yeah, you've got

[1:15:25] um got adequate input there. And I do really like having that community space

[1:15:30] and making trying to make that, you know, sort of as welcoming to the

[1:15:33] community as we possibly can. And you know, it's I

[1:15:37] mean, I think we all have a notion that some sort of

[1:15:41] And I don't think so much in our community, but in general, sort of the

[1:15:45] repair of the relationship between the community and the police. And I think,

[1:15:49] you know, that architecture can go a long ways

[1:15:52] towards that. So, um Yeah, I like what I

[1:15:56] like what I see so far. >> And Chris, I I I do love the idea of the

[1:16:01] town hall type format for this particular issue.

[1:16:06] You know, I I

[1:16:07] I think that's a great idea.

[1:16:11] » Uh I'm sorry, just I had one other I This is getting a little bit in the

[1:16:15] weeds, but you know, typically I guess maybe conventional wisdom, you know,

[1:16:18] multi-story is less expensive than single-story.

[1:16:22] Um so, you were suggesting it's more the other way around. I guess that's mostly

[1:16:26] because of the vertical circulation piece.

[1:16:30] » Jeff thought >> Yeah.

[1:16:31] » answer that. >> This was a very detailed analysis. So,

[1:16:35] I'm going to let the experts speak better than I can.

[1:16:37] » Thank you. Uh thanks for coming in.

[1:16:40] » Jeff with uh Leopardo Construction. So, we're doing the cost estimating for

[1:16:43] Williams throughout. Um Mark mentioned some of the bubble diagram exercises. I

[1:16:47] I think nine was like the the base uh schematics that we looked at. There was

[1:16:52] other kind of iterations. Um but yeah, really when you look at

[1:16:55] going down, there's a lot of of costs, whether they're they're permanent

[1:16:59] construction costs or temporary things like trucking and moving things around,

[1:17:02] moving materials around, uh that you're faced with with going down. When you go

[1:17:06] up, there's there's other considerations as well of of uh lack of efficiency in

[1:17:11] labor, uh material access. Mark and and uh

[1:17:15] Andy mentioned things like elevators and circulation space and things like that.

[1:17:19] So, we we certainly did a couple pricing exercises looking at those types of

[1:17:23] options. Um but but really your most cost-effective option is going to be to

[1:17:28] continue to spread out as a one one-story facility.

[1:17:32] » Okay, thanks. >> It seems the flow is much better.

[1:17:35] » Well, the thing is I I'll I'll be honest with you, we, you know, uh the chief and

[1:17:39] his team, they got a nice court room there.

[1:17:42] You know, we looked at everything. And the bottom line is we felt like we were

[1:17:45] forcing it to put it over in multiple stories because, you know, who's up in

[1:17:49] the second floor? Who's in the ivory tower? Whereas now we've got everybody's

[1:17:52] on the same level. You know, detectives can come across to patrol now like, "Oh,

[1:17:56] now they're upstairs at admin." It just And so, I think what Jeff said was just

[1:18:01] it was kind of great. It's like we we think the plan worked better one story.

[1:18:05] And then the fact that it seemed to be the most cost-effective.

[1:18:08] It just sort of helps >> Yeah.

[1:18:10] » Cuz I know that we really talked about multiple stories quite a bit. And and

[1:18:14] you know, Tim did a great job showing us all the other things that are going on

[1:18:17] out there. And there was a definite concern of will the building be bigger?

[1:18:20] Is it going to look like Well, we're getting 18 to 22 ft in the air. It's

[1:18:25] it's going to You're not going to miss it. You know, it will not be a

[1:18:27] five-story building. But I don't think it wants to be a

[1:18:30] five-story building. So, I think the flow and the cost just really kind of

[1:18:34] » I Yeah, I I would say for all of those reasons. If

[1:18:38] the struggle again really was if this is over multiple levels, what makes sense

[1:18:43] to be separated from everything else. And in our analysis, there wasn't a good

[1:18:49] answer for that from a functional standpoint. I think if there was, you'd

[1:18:52] be seeing it tonight because we'd be telling you that

[1:18:56] we we thought it was workable. But um we

[1:18:59] it becomes an efficient plan in terms of construction. We don't have the costs of

[1:19:04] exit stairs and elevators and other accessibility measures. And it just ends

[1:19:10] up really fostering a one team culture where everybody's able to collaborate

[1:19:14] and come together on a single >> Well, what Andy said if you make it

[1:19:16] makes perfect sense. Three quarters of the space is needed to be in the first

[1:19:19] floor. You're not going to put the jail up or down. You're not going to put the

[1:19:23] I mean the the evidence storage. But at the time we're doing like, well, I

[1:19:28] suppose we could put admin upstairs and maybe one other department. But now

[1:19:32] they're splitting it for no It was literally doing it to say we did it. And

[1:19:35] the bottom line is it was a three quarter one quarter

[1:19:38] thing. It just was not It was just not working out. So, I think this is a much

[1:19:41] better solution. >> Yeah. I'm good. Normally, if you can do

[1:19:44] one story people prefer one story just for

[1:19:48] working Well, it makes >> Makes sense.

[1:19:51] » Uh and just so the the board's aware what the intention is moving forward is

[1:19:57] » Can you go back to the floor plan?

[1:20:08] » I don't think about it. >> You want one more, probably.

[1:20:11] » Come on, baby. You can do it. >> There you go.

[1:20:14] » This floor plan is at 43,000 square feet.

[1:20:17] Our intention is to reduce this back into the 38,000 square feet. So,

[1:20:24] probably a $5,000 square foot reduction in this, which

[1:20:28] translates into obviously a less costlier of a

[1:20:33] project and building Uh but still trying to balance the

[1:20:37] functionality of the effort. So we're at 43. We're going to try and

[1:20:42] reduce it by another 5,000 square feet and then in terms of the architectural

[1:20:49] from the staff's perspective unless someone's going to

[1:20:54] uh argue differently, I think staff's

[1:20:57] intention is to take this towards a prairie style more traditional which we

[1:21:02] believe is respectful of what the the village board and the community is going

[1:21:08] to expect from a project that we are doing. So that's that's the two

[1:21:14] I guess points that we were expecting the board to kind of give us or

[1:21:18] understand where we're where we're taking this project as we bring it home.

[1:21:22] » Yeah, I I my my point on getting their input

[1:21:25] because we've asked the residents for it. I'm curious to find

[1:21:29] out what everybody said from those meetings and

[1:21:33] architect. I just want to make sure that I that should be our benchmarking that.

[1:21:36] » Well, everything around it is four stories. Like how do you translate a

[1:21:42] prairie style building into four story? I mean that's probably not going to be

[1:21:46] the architecture of the other stuff. So my question is that

[1:21:50] really something that we want to do here necessarily. So

[1:21:55] I I thought the contemporary look nice. I like you know bringing in the daylight

[1:21:59] that I think that affords and I think it potentially would go

[1:22:03] better with some of the surrounding. So I'm I guess I wouldn't want to decide

[1:22:09] that right now at least personally. >> Can I ask you a question?

[1:22:13] » Yeah. >> What when you're saying the other

[1:22:15] buildings, I mean what Jules there and then we have those

[1:22:19] low-lying Simpson and I center and all that. There is that

[1:22:24] older tire place but what other buildings? Four stories. I'm

[1:22:28] trying to I'm trying to visualize. >> Um the mall plan across, you know, there

[1:22:32] So, the you know, we >> So, this Fern Avenue way?

[1:22:35] » Well, it's across the street. >> But,

[1:22:37] correct me if I'm wrong, I think part of the intention that we've had all along

[1:22:42] is with public safety center number three is to set the tone, set the tenor,

[1:22:47] and set the architecture that we expect is going to be part of the future

[1:22:50] development. >> think you can do a four-story prairie

[1:22:53] building. >> I'm not advocating that we do a

[1:22:56] four-story prairie building, but I think the the intention is that we intend to

[1:23:02] build a very quality product that is more traditional in architecture and to

[1:23:08] keep keeping in time with the historic nature of the community.

[1:23:12] » Tim, chime in. >> Yeah.

[1:23:19] » In the front I was in the back of my house in that floor plan

[1:23:24] separate essentially by a light well. >> Sorry.

[1:23:27] » three-story that runs almost like a book spine

[1:23:31] and it reads like a second story, but it it really that's where the light is

[1:23:35] going to pour into the building. Not sitting up where that second level

[1:23:40] of windows is. That is that is meant to bring

[1:23:48] I am with that plus the elevated first floor

[1:23:54] is going to give the building its airiness. But, that reads like two plus

[1:23:58] that and the decorative Um so,

[1:24:02] and you with respect to land again with the horizontal floor plan and a

[1:24:06] horizontal kind of site for 5 acres, it's actually going to respect the land.

[1:24:11] The concern from the front end was though was which which

[1:24:15] as Bryce mentioned is to not get lost in there.

[1:24:22] Something with this relative height

[1:24:29] » And Tim, too, I mean, one of the terms that I have heard you use over the years

[1:24:32] is does it have a conversation with the architecture around it? Is there

[1:24:36] anything about this that would preclude any type of design style in the interior

[1:24:41] of the Ring Road? >> Uh no, not necessarily preclude.

[1:24:45] » Yeah. >> They

[1:24:48] things don't have to be matchy-matchy. They should have that conversation

[1:24:51] » Yeah. >> together.

[1:24:53] This this is a vernacular style that's been

[1:24:58] developed contemporary flare such that it will afford us some flexibility with

[1:25:03] the new things that may spring. >> And because this is going to be closer

[1:25:07] to existing housing, transitionally, this might make sense,

[1:25:12] right? >> Yeah, but it's at the northern end of

[1:25:14] the site that is economically the viable portion of the site that is

[1:25:20] it's opposite of Santa Monica is at least for

[1:25:23] now intended to stay, which is quite contemporary in and of itself.

[1:25:27] So, that is our only established context.

[1:25:29] » Yeah. >> Whereas each project comes in, we're

[1:25:31] going to have to manage it. Uh I think authenticity, like any

[1:25:38] makes something feel right. And executing something like this or

[1:25:42] something with even this but maybe a little additional

[1:25:45] contemporary flare, but still reading my contemporary building by and large,

[1:25:51] uh affords us flexibility, but it feels familiar, it's comfortable, it feels

[1:25:55] respectful of its site, and it feels like it could

[1:25:59] hold up over time, which is something I think we want to do, just like the

[1:26:02] building we're sitting in. 17 years later. So, nothing that we're

[1:26:07] seeing tonight would indicate that at least that portion

[1:26:10] of that wouldn't stand the test of time and that it would preclude

[1:26:13] other projects. >> Chief Commander Breaux, any

[1:26:17] thoughts that you're getting from the department, any thoughts that you have?

[1:26:22] » One of the main things for me I've you know, I've been around

[1:26:28] for 29 years now. So, I've been

[1:26:31] in and out of a lot of these facilities.

[1:26:34] And one of the things that I love about how

[1:26:37] this is taking shape is you can really see

[1:26:41] how it wasn't a situation of the architects saying

[1:26:47] you have 35,000, 38,000 square feet, figure something out. It was truly

[1:26:53] here's what we think it'll target at, but forget all that. Let's dial down to

[1:26:58] each individual area. Command staff, what does that look like?

[1:27:02] Right now, it's a chief and two. What might it be in five years? What's

[1:27:06] it going to be in five years? 15, 20? And I'm

[1:27:10] I'm not going to put you guys on the spot or

[1:27:12] the builders, but you know, we've seen buildings last 40 years.

[1:27:17] And this building is still going strong after 117 years. That building should

[1:27:21] too. And and one of that one of the things that I really

[1:27:25] love about this is this job has changed so much just in the

[1:27:32] last five years, let alone in the last 29 years.

[1:27:36] Where we really are when you look at that floor plan, not only is the flow

[1:27:42] the best I've ever seen um in terms of just what makes sense for

[1:27:48] the troops, the people that are are working in there.

[1:27:52] But, it also really takes into consideration the fact that

[1:27:58] certainly 10, 15 years from now, but maybe by the time the thing is built,

[1:28:04] a couple years or a year and a half, whatever it is, there's going to be

[1:28:07] people performing jobs in that building that jobs don't even exist right now.

[1:28:13] And so, as far as the the input from from the troops, we those individual

[1:28:18] beings that we have, it wasn't just me and

[1:28:23] Jim and Kyle deciding for everyone what it was going to be.

[1:28:28] It was the detective representation of the of

[1:28:31] the patrol officer representation, and the civilian representation, and

[1:28:36] each aspect of it. Um

[1:28:38] So, what you see, given where we're still in the conceptual phase, that

[1:28:42] floor plan and the design to it, um

[1:28:46] it just it makes more sense than any police facility I've ever been in.

[1:28:51] And and so, I can only imagine when it's actually built, it will

[1:28:54] translate even better in how it works. >> Do you have a preference to the style on

[1:28:59] the exterior? Okay.

[1:29:02] » [laughter] >> I guess I guess from the staff from the

[1:29:05] staff's perspective, I mean, you know, unless someone's going to point us in a

[1:29:09] completely different direction, I I don't see in any in any way, shape, or

[1:29:14] form the the community of West Dundee supporting a more contemporary approach

[1:29:19] to this building versus a more traditional

[1:29:23] architectural significant masonry type building. And that's just my

[1:29:28] understanding and a you know, interpretation of what I believe you're

[1:29:33] the feedback you're going to receive. >> Tim, I mean, given we're on the 10-yard

[1:29:37] line, >> And that being said, if you choose a

[1:29:39] direction, especially something that's got this kind of design language,

[1:29:43] then you have to do it authentically, right?

[1:29:47] » Yeah. You let Tim yes.

[1:29:50] » And I have confidence in that and I I trust in the design team and uh

[1:29:57] people say one thing and then they'll be doing something else.

[1:30:00] » So, I >> It really is a form follows function

[1:30:02] than any >> Yeah.

[1:30:03] » so much time has been spent on how it's used,

[1:30:07] how the envelope is following, and uh

[1:30:15] » And is this the time where we need that input? Or I mean, we're at the 10-yard

[1:30:19] line, is it, you know, now the

[1:30:23] Right. I understood. That's why I say. So, why don't we

[1:30:27] » Yeah, let's say something. >> Yeah, please. Yes, yes, go.

[1:30:30] » Uh This goes along with what you were

[1:30:33] saying, Tim, and I you you say it more eloquently, but

[1:30:36] uh in my opinion, Prairie style has staying power and it has proven that

[1:30:41] over many, many years. Uh contemporary, you

[1:30:46] can do in 10 years from now, it's going to look old and dated. I mean, it's it

[1:30:52] just It I That's my opinion.

[1:31:55] » So, as I see multiple versions, if if the boards as go to the picture of

[1:32:00] Prairie style, I like what you said. There is traditional Prairie style and

[1:32:03] if we're going to do it, we're going to do it right. It's going to have the

[1:32:06] trim, it's going to have the banding, it's going to have windows. But we can

[1:32:09] also look at a little more contemporary version of it that's not literally out

[1:32:14] of the design book. And we would study those kind of options as we get into the

[1:32:18] schematic design. >> Yeah.

[1:32:19] » I I think um I think um this is great feedback for us tonight as we go through

[1:32:25] this process. Um we are not here by any means to say, "Okay, you want Prairie."

[1:32:30] We'll show We're building Prairie. Um it's going This is a starting point. Now

[1:32:35] we're we expect to continue with some optionality and say, "Here's a few

[1:32:38] different ways this could go." As we get into design, um as we look at um the

[1:32:43] right materialities, we look at the right scale, and as we look at what it

[1:32:46] takes to conform this to the budget that you established. So, all those things

[1:32:50] are in tension, but it's part of the process that we've got to solve and

[1:32:52] we're going to continue to bring you those ideas.

[1:32:54] » Well, thank you. And I think this is the first part of a longer dialogue. Tim, I

[1:32:57] just had a quick question for you. Does this go to ARC and P&Z?

[1:33:03] » Well, I I I think ARC would would feel

[1:33:06] » Yeah. >> more than engaged with a project of this

[1:33:10] magnitude. >> Sure.

[1:33:11] » Even for a private project, they'd see it.

[1:33:13] » And same with P&Z or no?

[1:33:17] » Probably not P&Z.

[1:33:22] » Understood. Okay.

[1:33:24] Okay, fair enough. All right. So, again, this is the first part of the

[1:33:28] discussion. Joe, is there any official action we need to take tonight? Okay.

[1:33:31] Gentlemen, thank you for spending so much time with us. You did a good job.

[1:33:34] » 20-year mark. >> Okay, thank you.

[1:33:36] Thank you. >> Good night, everybody.

[1:33:39] » All right, that was a good discussion. Moving on to item C,

[1:33:44] which is the 2016-2017 first quarter financial report. Trustee Yaska and

[1:33:48] Trustee Johnson. >> That was

[1:33:50] » And uh Linda. >> Okay, I didn't know if there was St.

[1:33:53] Catherine needed to be done >> Well,

[1:33:56] hopefully this won't be very long. >> No, it shouldn't. We we talked about it

[1:34:00] earlier.

[1:34:02] » I don't see anyone from St. Catherine's here.

[1:34:06] » Linda, please uh >> Yeah, absolutely. So, I have a very

[1:34:09] quick report for you. Um overall, everything is where we would expect it

[1:34:14] to be given the time of year, you know, related to our revenues and expenses.

[1:34:19] Um really one of the only things I want to point out is um one of the over

[1:34:23] budget items you're seeing in the attached report are uh covered under the

[1:34:27] budget amendment that we did earlier. And then two is the water fund has not

[1:34:33] received the first IEPA loan for the phase one lead service line replacement

[1:34:38] yet. It is in process. We just haven't received the funds yet. So, um if you're

[1:34:42] seeing like those lower dollar amounts in the balance, that's why.

[1:34:45] » Okay. >> Yeah.

[1:34:49] » I'm going to ask questions for Linda.

[1:34:52] I am. Yeah, she looks to me. All right, Linda. [clears throat]

[1:34:56] Uh the um

[1:34:58] Just a couple. I just got a couple. Very very thorough. Thank you.

[1:35:03] Um business license uh business licenses are under budget

[1:35:07] are under budget. Um

[1:35:11] is are we going to hit that? Um there's hardly anything in that. It's

[1:35:15] like a hundred thousand hundred thousand dollar budget on the

[1:35:20] revenue side. We've only re- received three thousand year to date. Is that

[1:35:25] » I think it's a timing issue. I'm not exactly sure on the timing of the

[1:35:28] business licenses, but I don't think we've hit the time of year where we get

[1:35:31] most of >> They're due January 1st.

[1:35:33] » Okay, there you go.

[1:35:37] » They're not due until January 1. >> Okay. All right. All right, no concerns

[1:35:41] there then. Um interest rates, I know we're

[1:35:46] the interest rate has dropped, but we're >> It's gone down. It's come back up a

[1:35:50] little bit. You'll see under our um the CD listing that I've gone ahead and

[1:35:55] reinvested and I always try to get the highest rates I can given like a

[1:35:59] 24-month period. Generally, we don't want to go further than that to stay

[1:36:03] kind of liquid. So, we're right around like 4 to 4.1%

[1:36:07] is where we're seeing those and then the rest of our funds we invest in a

[1:36:12] WinTrust account where we get half a percent above whatever Illinois funds is

[1:36:16] giving us. >> All right. So, we were short on we were

[1:36:18] short on that. Um Uh the ambulance fees, yeah, we're

[1:36:23] getting them right? You're getting your ambulance fees?

[1:36:26] Um Uh point of clarification, there's a 230

[1:36:31] system charge. Is that your ERP conversion?

[1:36:35] How much did you did you budget for your ERP conversion?

[1:36:39] » The I the ERP, so that's uh that hasn't um showed up as an

[1:36:43] expense yet. That was 350, I believe, or 330 or 350. And then the other large

[1:36:50] expense for um

[1:36:53] technology was the servers, I believe. >> Okay, yeah, the server Oh, yeah, that's

[1:36:57] right, the servers piece. And then um community

[1:37:01] uh development reimburse reimbursable fee.

[1:37:05] » Mhm. >> What is that?

[1:37:07] » So, that is that was part of the budget amendment. So, that used to be that's

[1:37:10] all those fees that we pass on to the developers to do like plan review and

[1:37:15] things like that. Before we were putting the revenue back into the expense to

[1:37:18] zero it out. So, I've gone ahead and split that up so we see the revenue side

[1:37:22] and the expense side to give us a better idea of what these projects are actually

[1:37:26] costing as all. >> And last but not least um the we've gone

[1:37:31] through Where are the all of these um main breaks? Where's the expenses for

[1:37:37] all the fixes that we've got we've had to do for main breaks and

[1:37:41] » Those end up in fund two under water main.

[1:37:47] » Basically, either materials or contracting goes in that line item, but

[1:37:52] salaries and overtime remain in salaries and overtime.

[1:37:57] » Can we just get an assessment of what that what we've

[1:38:01] spent cuz we've gone through a lot of breaks lately this year. I've never

[1:38:06] Yeah, I've only been here a short

[1:38:09] short period of time. Um

[1:38:11] but there's been quite a few breaks this

[1:38:14] year. >> Well, we can break it out based on cost,

[1:38:16] but certain cost Some main breaks are just the cost of a sleeve to repair the

[1:38:21] break once it's excavated and it's So, there's no out-of-pockets, and then

[1:38:26] we've had the the ones the breaks that we've had a

[1:38:30] contract out. So, you've got a an outside service that we've contracted

[1:38:34] with and the expense for that. So, they're all they're all over the the

[1:38:38] board in terms of dollar amount, but we can give you a breakdown based on

[1:38:41] incident. >> Yeah, don't Yeah, that'd be good. Um

[1:38:45] don't, you know, kill yourself doing it, but I just want to know like

[1:38:50] for my my purp- my back of my head is to

[1:38:53] if we get one of these water main that bust,

[1:38:57] you know, what are we looking at in terms of cost to the village cuz we've

[1:39:01] we've had quite a few of those things this year.

[1:39:03] » True. >> So, what determines when we um contract

[1:39:07] out mostly if it's >> We can't get down if it's deeper more

[1:39:09] than likely it's deeper than what our current equipment can can handle. So,

[1:39:14] anything probably deeper than 7-8 ft is is something outside of our wheelhouse.

[1:39:21] » So, if you could help with that, that'd be great.

[1:39:24] Great job. Thank you. Any other questions?

[1:39:28] Thank you. >> Thank you.

[1:39:30] » Yeah. >> Moving on to item D, St. Catherine of

[1:39:33] Siena School Resource Officer. >> Motion no approval.

[1:39:36] » No. >> No, I think it was just information.

[1:39:39] » Tracy, we're good. >> Okay. Uh we've just

[1:39:43] this before, but in your packet here is an ongoing agreement with St.

[1:39:47] Catherine's for a part-time police officer from the Village of West Dundee

[1:39:52] to provide some school resource officer duties. It is funded by St. Catherine's

[1:39:57] themselves and essentially this is a reimbursement back to the Village of

[1:40:01] West Dundee for police services I think to the tune

[1:40:06] $40,000 that covers the school year of

[1:40:10] approximately 176 days at 4 hours per day the math I haven't checked but

[1:40:15] should be about that.

[1:40:19] » I think this is a good solution for for everybody involved

[1:40:24] involves you know from a police standpoint from

[1:40:28] from a church standpoint keeps the village primarily whole from

[1:40:33] from a revenue and expense perspective improves the safety of the school. I

[1:40:38] know in the contract language there was a

[1:40:41] back and forth but you reassured me that everybody's in agreement both Diocese

[1:40:46] and and

[1:40:49] the West Dundee attorneys so everybody's checked off so I'm full support of this.

[1:40:56] » I think it's good too the other thing I would [clears throat] just

[1:41:00] want to make sure sort of it's revenue neutral so the um

[1:41:04] you and I talked to like so this is sort of contingent upon being able to find

[1:41:09] somebody at the 45-ish and so there's some ability to float this

[1:41:15] depending on who we are able to find. >> Right that's the whole key to this whole

[1:41:19] project has been finding the right individual to take it on a part-time

[1:41:23] basis and working less than 1,000 hours and working that into

[1:41:28] the desired schedule by St. Catherine's and

[1:41:31] we've got the agreement in place now we know

[1:41:34] the financial parameters now the hard work begins we got to go out and find

[1:41:38] that right individual that's willing to take the job.

[1:41:41] » Do you think it's going to be like a retired person?

[1:41:45] » Yeah, I think Chief. >> That's that's the assumption and you

[1:41:48] know, this is such a unique thing. It it could be difficult to to recruit

[1:41:55] or we could have 30 applications in the first week for people who if

[1:42:01] basically the the big the big sticking point that I would see

[1:42:04] is the part-time factor is is difficult for people to retire from

[1:42:11] law enforcement especially because we're a little bit younger

[1:42:14] when we do retire. If you don't go into a job that has

[1:42:18] health insurance. But if you're somebody that that's not a factor for

[1:42:23] this seems like a pretty a pretty good gig and then as far as we go

[1:42:29] since the way the certification works, we no

[1:42:32] matter what we hire a lateral from from another department who is not quite a

[1:42:38] lateral but they they left their employment with town A yesterday and

[1:42:43] they want to start with us today. We have to apply

[1:42:47] with ILETSB to reactivate their certification. Um so

[1:42:53] that could just be a matter of somebody who just retired yesterday and

[1:42:58] wants to start this job today or it could be somebody that retired a couple

[1:43:01] years ago. They might have to get caught up on some additional classes that they

[1:43:06] that they've missed along the way to get back up to those mandates and things

[1:43:10] like that but um it that's something workable for us.

[1:43:16] » And that's an expensive fits in the budget.

[1:43:19] » What about certifications? >> Yeah, I don't know how much that is if

[1:43:22] that's a thing and are we paying them while

[1:43:24] they're getting their going through this stuff again and

[1:43:27] » We we would be so their time would be would be compensated

[1:43:33] by the school so that their salary during that time but the actual classes

[1:43:40] things like de-escalation training and things like that most if not all of that

[1:43:47] it is is free so to speak like whatever we pay into

[1:43:52] with other organizations like Nymrod is one

[1:43:56] of them. So we in other words we wouldn't be

[1:43:59] paying for $2,000 for somebody to go attend a class is what I'm trying to get

[1:44:04] at there. >> As I mentioned the the key to this whole

[1:44:09] project is finding the right individual to plug into this position.

[1:44:16] » Okay trusty Wilbrandt. >> With that I make a motion to authorize

[1:44:19] the memorandum of understanding between the village and St. Catherine of Siena

[1:44:23] for a part-time school resource officer as presented and to direct staff to

[1:44:27] begin recruitment and hiring for this position.

[1:44:29] » Motion. >> Second.

[1:44:30] » Second by trusty Johnson. Any additional discussion or comment?

[1:44:34] Hearing none Madam Clerk. >> Trusty Wilbrandt.

[1:44:36] » Aye. >> Trusty Price.

[1:44:37] » Aye. >> Trusty Aska.

[1:44:38] » Aye. >> Trusty Johnson.

[1:44:39] » Aye. >> Trusty Lapagianis.

[1:44:40] » Aye. >> Trusty Andely.

[1:44:42] » Aye. >> All eyes motion carries. Thank you

[1:44:43] Chief. >> Thank you.

[1:44:45] » Moving on to item eight professional services proposal for Spring Hill Mall

[1:44:48] redevelopment flow monitoring. Trusty Aska.

[1:44:51] » In preparing for whatever is needed as part of the

[1:44:55] Spring Hill Mall redevelopment it's important to study the sanitary system

[1:45:00] and the flows before we move forward and uh

[1:45:05] so this is just doing our due diligence and

[1:45:09] preparing for the future. >> Right we have we know what the design

[1:45:14] capacity was for the mall based on additional residential units we know

[1:45:19] it's going to be more than likely larger than what existed previously.

[1:45:24] So what we We to do is some downstream uh, work to make sure to understand the

[1:45:29] current flow volumes and make sure that we have adequate flows basically from

[1:45:35] Locust uh, 2 3rd Street uh, to handle this capacity or what changes are

[1:45:40] necessary in order to support that. >> We should learn something about I&I as

[1:45:46] well too. We need to do something to >> Correct.

[1:45:50] » maintain the capacity um, and we're not losing too much stuff.

[1:45:54] » Right, and that's part of the reason the the the proposal, right? We don't

[1:45:57] believe there's a big I&I issue in this in this proximity or area. We

[1:46:02] believe there's a huge I&I issue east of 1st Street. Um, but we're really focused

[1:46:08] on the line from 72 down Locust crossing and ends up back at 3rd Street.

[1:46:14] » Okay, and then will they I didn't see it in their proposal and it wasn't talked

[1:46:18] about but it I would imagine televising we'd want to do that too just condition

[1:46:22] wise. >> Uh, not for this. This is strictly on

[1:46:24] the monitoring very uh, this is strictly on flow monitoring basis.

[1:46:28] » Okay, just making sure the capacity that we calculate is actually there based on

[1:46:33] condition. >> Well, we're trying to figure out exactly

[1:46:35] what the amount of flow is, pipe sizes, and slope and grade to understand what

[1:46:41] the total capacity is of the line. >> Okay.

[1:46:48] Anyone else? >> Okay.

[1:46:51] » Okay. I move to approve a professional

[1:46:53] services proposal with Baxter & Woodman for Spring Hill Mall sanitary flow

[1:46:58] monitoring at a cost not to exceed $25,000.

[1:47:02] » Motion. >> Second.

[1:47:04] » Seconded by Trustee Price. Any additional discussion or comment?

[1:47:08] Hearing none, Madam Clerk. >> Trustee Esker.

[1:47:10] » Aye. >> Trustee Johnson.

[1:47:11] » Aye. >> Trustee Lapagianis.

[1:47:13] » Aye. >> Trustee Annalise.

[1:47:14] » Aye. >> Trustee Wilbrandt.

[1:47:15] » Aye. >> Trustee Price.

[1:47:16] » Aye. >> All eyes wishing carries. Uh, before we

[1:47:18] end Tim, Chief Spiro, and Joe, can we talk after the

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