[0:05] Good evening everyone. Welcome to the

[0:07] board of supervisors first meeting of

[0:10] the year. Please rise.

[0:15] » Aliance to the flag of the United States

[0:18] of America and to the stand

[0:24] indivisible.

[0:36] Believe it or not, I don't think we had

[0:37] any executive sessions, [laughter]

[0:41] but a few few announcements. I did want

[0:43] to start off with some good news. Uh we

[0:46] just received the grant money uh which

[0:49] which Jim Wendlegas was helpful in

[0:52] requesting when he was manager for the

[0:54] LSA grant. That's the local share grant

[0:57] uh which comes from the gaming money and

[0:59] we received $120,000

[1:02] for the compact track loader and $64,000

[1:06] for the police vehicle. So So that's

[1:08] terrific. Um, this evening's meeting is

[1:12] being recorded for rebroadcast

[1:17] and also wanted to just wish everyone a

[1:19] happy new year and remind you you're

[1:22] want to dispose of your trees. We're

[1:24] accepting them right out front here.

[1:25] Just no tinsel. So, we're going to move

[1:29] right on to public comment. Does anyone

[1:31] have public comment on any of the uh

[1:34] items that are coming up tonight?

[1:42] Christina Casey, West Vincent resident.

[1:44] I've got a couple. Um,

[1:47] Open Space Review Board. There are two

[1:49] new positions that are being added to

[1:51] this committee.

[1:52] Um,

[1:54] both of the positions are spouses of uh

[1:57] of current supervisors. Um, there's

[2:00] quite a few that they're on. My question

[2:02] is I saw that there's some vacancies.

[2:04] Um, is was that intentional? because I

[2:06] know I talked to somebody who was not

[2:08] reappointed who was looking to get

[2:09] reappointed on a committee and was not.

[2:11] » Okay. Well, would you like me to explain

[2:13] what

[2:14] » Sure.

[2:14] » Sure. So, uh, we actually have merged

[2:18] the trails committee into the open space

[2:22] committee.

[2:24] So, it's not so much of an appointment

[2:26] as they were moved there and eliminated

[2:29] a committee entirely.

[2:32] » Okay. Um, as for people that might have

[2:34] applied for other positions on other

[2:36] committees that didn't get filled but

[2:37] have vacancies,

[2:38] » I'm not aware of anyone but one person

[2:40] who I did talk to about it already being

[2:42] full at open space but to please come.

[2:44] » It wasn't open space. It was a different

[2:45] committee, but I can have them contact

[2:46] you. I know I know Whitney had had was

[2:48] kind of wondering why she didn't get

[2:50] appointed back to traffic safety.

[2:51] » Oh, I had heard that she wasn't

[2:53] interested.

[2:53] » Oh, no. She said she was she actually

[2:54] heard from me today that said that uh

[2:57] that I said, "Oh, she's not coming back.

[2:59] » There's two openings."

[3:00] » All right. Well, I will let her know.

[3:02] » Also, there are other openings and we're

[3:04] not completely done.

[3:05] » I will let her know.

[3:06] » Sure.

[3:07] » Um, the appointments now show creation

[3:10] of a new position. It's called the storm

[3:11] water enforcement officer. Um, who

[3:14] happens to be happens to be the same

[3:15] company as the assistant CEO. Um, why is

[3:18] this new position being added?

[3:21] » I'll let you explain that one.

[3:22] » The township engineer traditionally is

[3:25] the storm water enforcement officer. uh

[3:28] the township engineer takes the lead on

[3:30] all the applications made under our

[3:32] storm water ordinance. Uh so uh he is

[3:35] appointed to that position.

[3:37] » So so LTL will no longer be in that

[3:39] position of doing storm water.

[3:42] » No.

[3:42] » Okay.

[3:43] » We did replace them as our township

[3:44] bench.

[3:45] » Okay. Just checking.

[3:45] » Said that at our last meeting.

[3:46] » Yep.

[3:48] » Um there's a new $75 BM registration fee

[3:51] that's indicated in the fee schedule. uh

[3:54] who's going to be contacting all the

[3:55] B&Bs in the township to collect these

[3:57] fees or is that going to be up to the

[3:59] residents to identify and alert the

[4:02] township

[4:06] » The enforcement on that?

[4:07] » Yeah, Jason's position.

[4:09] » So, we should send all those uh leads to

[4:11] Jason who will follow up on those.

[4:13] » Jason is the director of

[4:15] » I understand and I'm asking who do we

[4:17] send them? So, we send them to Jason and

[4:18] he will be following up and collecting

[4:19] the fees.

[4:20] » You can send information to Jason.

[4:22] » Okay. So, we'll be policing that. Um,

[4:28] okay. The increase in the manager's

[4:31] compensation for no cause employment

[4:32] separation from 2 to 4 months. Um,

[4:36] curious behind the logic behind that.

[4:39] » Below the industry standard even at four

[4:40] months.

[4:41] » Okay.

[4:43] Uh, when the manager was

[4:45] » Has up to a year.

[4:47] » Yeah. The police police do a very hard

[4:49] job out here. I totally agree with that.

[4:51] When the manager was hired, it was noted

[4:53] that he would be taking over as zoning

[4:54] officer for the township. It was

[4:55] something that the board had had

[4:56] stressed. Um, now it appears that uh

[4:59] that's now being slid over to the

[5:01] previous permit clerk who he said is uh

[5:03] the director now zoning. [snorts] Um but

[5:05] now we have two assistants which are

[5:07] going to be the township manager and

[5:10] that other firm as a backup. So um how

[5:14] did this come about when I thought that

[5:15] the manager was going to be the zoning

[5:18] officer?

[5:20] Jason's position was promoted and it's

[5:22] as part of his new [clears throat] job

[5:23] description.

[5:24] » So, you're having that portion taken

[5:25] away and Jason's going to be doing that

[5:26] part of the job.

[5:27] » I'll be the deputy assistant.

[5:28] » Deputy. Okay. So,

[5:30] » All right. Deputy.

[5:33] Okay.

[5:37] » Okay. I'll be back up in a little bit.

[5:40] » Okay. And by the way, you mentioned

[5:42] something that I did want to talk about,

[5:44] which was the the fees. There's a large

[5:46] change in the fee schedule. if anyone uh

[5:50] took the time to notice these have been

[5:52] drastically reduced overall and that's

[5:54] that's basically from an analysis to

[5:56] find that we were overcharging our

[5:58] residents.

[6:00] » We can talk about that when we get to

[6:01] it. Tommy will explain it.

[6:05] Anyone else public comment?

[6:09] Okay, seeing none, uh we're going to

[6:12] move on and uh I would like to appoint a

[6:16] temporary chair, right? I would like to

[6:18] transfer

[6:20] all in favor.

[6:23] » All in favor?

[6:24] » I

[6:32] Yes. Uh board of supervisors chair. A

[6:35] motion to appoint the

[6:39] uh I'll pick Dana as board supervisor

[6:42] chair for 2026.

[6:45] Second.

[6:47] All in favor? I I

[6:49] » Okay, good. You got it back.

[6:51] » Okay, congratulations. And now, thank

[6:53] you. [clears throat] Now, we're going to

[6:54] appoint a vice chair. And I would like

[6:58] to nominate Colon Cororus for vice

[7:00] chair.

[7:01] » Yes, sir.

[7:03] » All in favor?

[7:04] » I

[7:04] » I Great. Okay, that business is done

[7:07] with

[7:09] uh

[7:12] and now we move on to Dave. You're up

[7:15] for public hearing.

[7:18] » Yes. Thank you, madam chairwoman. On the

[7:21] agenda is an ordinance

[7:25] um 20

[7:28] 220-2025

[7:31] and it's an ordinance where we are

[7:33] changing

[7:35] some of the language relative to the

[7:39] space board.

[7:42] I'm going to get it in front of me here.

[7:45] I can talk about it.

[7:48] 220

[7:51] things there 224

[7:54] 20 I'm sorry 224 2026. Uh it's an

[7:57] ordinance that basically we're changing

[7:59] a few of the sections. Uh we're adding

[8:02] members to the

[8:05] open space board going from five to

[8:07] seven. Um in doing that we're staggering

[8:10] the terms of the two new people. Um

[8:13] they'll be all be fiveyear terms, but

[8:15] the two new people joining will have

[8:17] staggered terms as they fit into the the

[8:21] five that are there. Um and there's a

[8:24] provision that the um

[8:29] the board super shall appoint three

[8:31] members of the space review board to

[8:32] serve on the trail committee

[8:33] implementation subcommittee. So the

[8:36] trail committee as um madame chairperson

[8:39] has said uh is being folded into the

[8:42] open space review board and um the

[8:45] supervisors will choose the members of

[8:48] that uh subcommittee that are part of

[8:50] the open space review board.

[8:52] » It does look like there's maybe a

[8:53] discrepancy in the numbers here.

[8:55] » It's this one here.

[8:58] » That's an error down there.

[9:00] » Yeah.

[9:01] It's 2024

[9:04] 224-20

[9:06] » 2026

[9:07] » 2026 is the correct number.

[9:09] » So that's the explanation. Uh we're

[9:11] having a public hearing. It's

[9:12] opportunity for anyone who has any

[9:14] question or comments about that

[9:16] ordinance can come forward now and make

[9:19] your public comments.

[9:21] » And I'm going to make one comment too. I

[9:23] had seen something that um I think needs

[9:26] to be clarified about the you know every

[9:30] year

[9:31] uh that the liaison is chosen to

[9:34] actually be a member of

[9:37] open space from one from planning and

[9:40] one from the EAC and I think it still

[9:44] said that they were fiveyear terms which

[9:46] doesn't make sense because they would

[9:48] renew every year

[9:52] [clears throat]

[9:52] » That That would have to be addressed in

[9:54] the Senate speaking by the people or

[9:57] that's here.

[9:57] » We'd have to fix that.

[9:58] » We'll fix that.

[9:59] » Okay.

[10:01] » Any other Are there any other comments

[10:04] or questions?

[10:06] All right. Hearing none, I recommend you

[10:08] close the hearing

[10:11] a

[10:22] Yes.

[10:22] » Yeah. It's on there.

[10:23] » And and if we know that it's obained, we

[10:25] just have to do that after it's

[10:27] approved.

[10:28] » Public hearing.

[10:29] » Okay.

[10:31] » Go ahead.

[10:33] » Entertain.

[10:33] » All right. Uh can we get a motion then

[10:35] for a public hearing? Ordinance 224-2026

[10:40] open space review board.

[10:46] Second. Second.

[10:47] » Okay. All in favor? I I

[10:54] And next up is the very lengthy

[10:57] volunteer appointment list. Um I I had

[11:02] two changes to that. Um one is uh Jason

[11:08] Cray is who was appointed to human

[11:11] relations not trails a for Cray not

[11:15] trail. And uh also Chip Farnum

[11:20] has agreed to join uh the traffic safety

[11:24] committee as well. So we want to add all

[11:28] those in. Does anyone have any comments

[11:30] about the volunteer appointments?

[11:34] No. Seeing none and certainly there are

[11:37] openings. Please just let us know if we

[11:38] missed anyone. Um all favor.

[11:44] » Oh, sorry.

[11:45] So we

[11:48] » Say it. Thank you.

[11:49] » Yeah.

[11:50] » Okay, it's approved. Thank you.

[11:55] » And then

[11:59] meeting schedules.

[12:03] » Your board leazison is there.

[12:06] » We have to do that separate. Okay.

[12:07] Motion to appoint the board leaison as

[12:10] listed in the township manager memo

[12:12] dated December 26, 2025.

[12:17] » Vote.

[12:19] » All in favor?

[12:20] » I

[12:25] for meeting schedules, there's a motion

[12:27] to adopt the meeting schedules and other

[12:29] establishments is listed in the township

[12:31] manager memo dated 20 December 26, 2025.

[12:35] And I believe that is adding the

[12:37] workshops in there which is new. If

[12:40] anyone has a question about that at all,

[12:42] certainly happy to entertain that.

[12:47] » I'd like to make a motion to adopt the

[12:48] meeting schedules as established.

[12:53] » Second.

[12:55] » Second.

[12:56] » All in favor?

[12:57] » I.

[13:02] And then we need a motion to approve the

[13:04] December 15 meeting minutes as

[13:06] presented.

[13:07] » So move second.

[13:09] » All in favor?

[13:10] » I

[13:11] » I

[13:18] have a motion to approve resolution

[13:21] 2025 or I'm sorry 2026 to adopt energy

[13:26] service areas for 2026 is listed.

[13:32] I'll make a motion

[13:34] to adopt the emergency service series

[13:36] 2026.

[13:38] Second that.

[13:39] » Any questions on that at all?

[13:42] » All in favor?

[13:43] » I

[13:49] resolution 2 2026. A motion to approve

[13:52] resolution 226 to adopt the 2026 fee

[13:56] schedule. And I would like Tommy if you

[13:58] could bring up some of the the changes

[14:01] to that to highlight what has occurred.

[14:04] » Yeah. As uh is best management practice

[14:06] for municipalities prior to adoption the

[14:10] fee schedule. We take a look at the uh

[14:13] proposed fees relative to uh the cost

[14:16] that the township incurs uh to process

[14:19] individual permits and other approvals

[14:22] and make adjustments where necessary. As

[14:26] the chair noted a few moments ago,

[14:28] generally uh there has been a decrease

[14:31] uh to several of the fees uh that are

[14:35] proposed this year relative to the fee

[14:37] that was charged in 2025. Uh there are a

[14:41] couple of new fees added uh to the

[14:43] schedule uh including uh underground

[14:46] storage tanks um which was uh left off

[14:50] uh the schedule in past years. Uh the

[14:54] escros that are required to be posted

[14:56] with land developments uh have uh have

[14:59] been revised as well. Uh generally up uh

[15:02] and in [snorts] several instances we

[15:04] have consolidated

[15:06] uh fees that are charged uh we had mult

[15:09] multiple instances of multiple fees

[15:11] charged for the same approval. Uh and

[15:13] that has been streamlined so folks are

[15:15] paying uh one fee instead of uh more

[15:19] than one fee. Uh we can review uh any of

[15:23] the uh

[15:25] fees if folks want to discuss

[15:29] but I believe all are self-explanatory

[15:31] as to what permits uh require what fees

[15:34] and escros as needed.

[15:39] » Any comments, questions?

[15:46] » Jamie McBicker. Um first of all, who's

[15:48] the new guy? Oh my goodness. We didn't

[15:51] introduce Sean.

[15:55] » Sorry. This is Sean Clark. Welcome.

[15:56] » Welcome Sean.

[15:57] » Well, thank you for I'm happy to be here

[15:59] tonight.

[16:00] » God bless you. Why anybody wants to be a

[16:01] supervisor and talk to me in another six

[16:04] years, right?

[16:05] » Uh

[16:07] I just I hadn't looked at these before

[16:09] and just looking at the fees it looks

[16:10] like a lot of them have gone up. Um it

[16:14] would have been helpful to see a side by

[16:15] side of before and afters, but

[16:17] » Again, most are going down. Most changes

[16:19] are damp.

[16:20] » Be that as it may, I'm saying there's a

[16:23] lot of them that have gone up.

[16:24] » Uh so I'm just

[16:25] » I can identify the ones that are

[16:26] increasing if that helps.

[16:28] » Uh sure.

[16:29] » Okay. Um well, do you want me to

[16:32] identify the all the changes?

[16:35] » I you know, I don't know. I guess it's

[16:37] more up to people if there people here

[16:38] who see something.

[16:40] » We can go. So residential permits on

[16:42] page one, new family, new single family

[16:45] and single family additions. uh that

[16:47] decreases

[16:49] uh from 1.5% cost of construction to

[16:52] 1.25.

[16:53] Uh the second new accessory structures

[16:56] also decreases from 1.5 to 1.25.

[16:59] » Tommy, can I interrupt for a second?

[17:00] Sure.

[17:01] » So I just I just Googled West Vincent

[17:04] Township fee schedule. It shows what I'm

[17:06] looking at may be wrong, but the very

[17:08] first thing new construction and

[17:09] addition went from 500 to 1250. Am I

[17:12] looking at

[17:13] » Are you Are you looking at residential

[17:15] permits? Yeah.

[17:17] » What What's the year on top of what

[17:18] you're looking at?

[17:19] » 2025.

[17:20] [clears throat]

[17:20] » 2025.

[17:23] I have the 2025 fee schedule here

[17:28] » And it's $500 plus 1.5% cost of

[17:32] construction,

[17:33] you know.

[17:34] » Right. But now it's $1250.

[17:37] » Where are you getting 1250, Jay?

[17:38] » From when you handed out. Am I looking

[17:41] the wrong place?

[17:41] » Yeah. New construction and additions.

[17:44] I'm sorry. That's res non-residential.

[17:46] » That's non-residential.

[17:47] » I apologize.

[17:48] » Okay. Let's start on page one. Okay.

[17:50] » Start at the top.

[17:51] » We're a little better to the residents.

[17:53] » So, residential permits, the cost of

[17:55] construction charge decreases from 1.5%

[17:58] to 1.25%.

[18:01] The new accessory structure decreases

[18:04] from 1.5% to 1.25%.

[18:08] Alterations decreases from 1.5% to

[18:12] 1.25%.

[18:14] Decks, patios, porches, pergolas

[18:17] decreases from 1.5% to 1.25%.

[18:22] Solar generator, mechanical HVAC per

[18:25] unit decreases 1.5% to 1.25%.

[18:30] Fire suppression systems and alarm

[18:31] systems decreases from 1.5%

[18:35] 1.25%.

[18:37] On page three, electrical permit

[18:39] decreases from 1.5% to 1.25%.

[18:44] Bunning decreases 1.5% to 1.25%.

[18:49] Swimming pools in ground

[18:52] increases from 250 to 350.

[18:57] » And Tommy just just stop you

[18:59] [clears throat] for a second.

[19:01] » So you're on page two now.

[19:03] » Yep. Go ahead.

[19:04] » Winning pool above ground increases from

[19:07] 100 to 135. However, the cost of

[19:11] construction decreases from 1.5

[19:15] to 1.25. So that's that's probably going

[19:18] to be revenue neutral because two are

[19:20] going up a little, one's going down.

[19:24] » As I noted, accessory uses

[19:28] um that increased from $100 to $125.

[19:33] However, again, the cost of construction

[19:35] fee, which is normally the bigger fee

[19:37] that the resident pays, decreases from

[19:41] 1.5 to 1.25.

[19:44] Zoning permits increase from 300 to 310.

[19:47] Driveway permits increase from 300 to

[19:50] 310. And those are the only other

[19:52] changes on page two. On page three,

[19:56] non-residential fundaments decreases

[19:59] from $1,500

[20:02] to $1,250.

[20:04] New accessory structures, nonresidential

[20:08] decreases because the township was

[20:10] charging two fees, a $300 review fee and

[20:13] a $100 two-hour administrative fee. Uh

[20:18] that is the example of the combination

[20:19] of fees. The new fee is 350. The old fee

[20:22] was 4, the new fee is 350. The very same

[20:25] thing with the next one, alterations.

[20:28] The new fee is 550. The ch township was

[20:31] charging two fees totaling 600 last

[20:33] year.

[20:34] » Solar generator, mechanical, HBAC per

[20:37] unit. Same thing. We're going from $600

[20:40] to $550. Fire suppression systems, same

[20:44] thing here. We're going from 500 to 450.

[20:48] Electrical fee, same. were decreasing

[20:51] from 400 to 350.

[20:54] Um, under electrical 2 that adopted last

[20:57] year had a permit issued for new service

[21:01] at $0.

[21:03] I think that was a typo. So, we

[21:05] calculated the appropriate fee in that

[21:06] $600. I can't tell you what the fee was

[21:08] last year because the fee schedule

[21:10] listed zero. Plumbing fee decreases from

[21:14] $400 to $450 to

[21:18] » 350. I'm sorry.

[21:20] swimming pools, uh, accessory recreation

[21:22] uses. These are for non-residential

[21:24] properties decreases from 600 to 550.

[21:27] » Can I just interrupt for a sec? Yeah.

[21:29] » What's a nonresidential?

[21:31] » If a if an HOA wants to put a swimming

[21:34] pool in a clubhouse, if um, you know, if

[21:37] if if a recreational use wants to do

[21:39] something like that. So, not common, but

[21:41] you want to make sure you have something

[21:43] there in the event. Yeah. What if

[21:45] somebody I mean not to get into this but

[21:49] just off the top of my head thinking

[21:50] about it. So we have a famous infamous

[21:53] place happening up the road here

[21:56] where a guy from California comes in and

[21:58] develops a property. Is that considered

[22:00] residential?

[22:02] » That's considered accessory because the

[22:04] bed and breakfast is accessory to the

[22:05] residential use there.

[22:06] » Okay.

[22:07] » If there wasn't a residential use there,

[22:08] if it was just a like a hotel, that's

[22:10] certainly commercial and this would

[22:12] attach. I guess my real question is if

[22:13] somebody has two homes and they live in

[22:15] Oklahoma but own a property here, are

[22:17] they residential or non the house is

[22:19] residential but they're not residential.

[22:21] » Well, you talk about residency and

[22:23] residential which are two different

[22:25] not whether they have multiple homes.

[22:27] » Yeah.

[22:28] » Okay.

[22:28] » If they're using it as a home, it's a

[22:30] home. That's

[22:31] » Even if they have multiple home.

[22:32] » Okay. Uh zoning permit for

[22:34] non-residential just like the one for

[22:36] residential increasing from $300 to 310.

[22:40] Driveway permits. That was really odd.

[22:42] Uh the township last year uh was

[22:44] charging $2,500 for a driveway permit. I

[22:48] can't imagine why. The new fee is $310

[22:51] and we're requiring an escrow in the

[22:53] event that something's needed from the

[22:54] county traffic engineer. The person

[22:56] applying for the permit will pay the

[22:58] actual cost and not a penny more. Uh but

[23:01] that $2,500 fee wasn't appropriate. A

[23:04] reinspection fee uh increased from $200

[23:07] to $250.

[23:09] And that's it for page four.

[23:14] Page five, the bridge weight limit. We

[23:16] had charged $1,000

[23:19] uh last year proposed 300 with that

[23:21] escrow. Again, I don't know the thinking

[23:24] behind last year's uh number, but it

[23:26] just it doesn't make sense. uh

[23:29] demolition permit uh increasing from

[23:31] $200 to $300 for residential,

[23:35] decreasing from $500 to uh $300 for

[23:39] non-residential. There's really no

[23:41] difference in the service we provide

[23:43] with those two uses. And so they're the

[23:45] uh they're the same. There is an

[23:47] additional escrow there needed again to

[23:49] pay any actual cost that we incur in uh

[23:52] in doing that. Uh but that is just to

[23:54] reimburse ourselves for our consultants

[23:56] work if any. uh the balance of escros of

[23:59] course are returned to folks in full. Uh

[24:02] further down on page five you see the

[24:04] two new additions above ground storage

[24:05] tank and below ground storage tank.

[24:08] Those are new uh as was noted earlier.

[24:11] Uh two down from there the bed and

[24:12] breakfast registration fee. Uh that was

[24:15] omitted on past year's uh fee schedules.

[24:18] We've made the correction here. Uh

[24:20] special events fees uh for temporary uh

[24:24] fee temporary special events up to seven

[24:26] days. the same 100 uh for seasonal

[24:28] events 8 days to 180 days it increased

[24:32] to 150 from 100

[24:37] » Was special event on there before

[24:40] » Yes

[24:42] » Okay I don't see it

[24:44] » I think it was listed under special

[24:46] zoning

[24:47] » Okay

[24:48] » Uh storm water um management now these

[24:51] are the permits that um the residents

[24:54] apply for talk about the simplified that

[24:56] plan. Uh last year we had a lot of

[24:59] residents coming in here doing

[25:00] simplified storm water management and

[25:02] they apply for a permit. Uh if they're

[25:04] doing a swimming pool or if they're

[25:06] doing uh a deck uh that is considered uh

[25:10] impervious or a patio or a very modest

[25:12] addition, anything uh up to uh anything

[25:15] between two 1,000 and 2,000 square feet.

[25:18] And there are many folks that have to do

[25:19] this. We're decreasing that fee from

[25:21] $1,000

[25:23] to $450.

[25:26] for the storm water management

[25:28] application non-simplified the bigger

[25:30] things we're decreasing that from $3500

[25:33] to $750

[25:38] subdivision and land development

[25:39] approvals application fee base fees have

[25:42] been consolidated so the numbers there

[25:44] if we look at it kind of like apples to

[25:46] oranges but uh generally they're going

[25:49] down in fact I don't know any of the

[25:52] small subdivision fees or land

[25:54] development fees that we charged are

[25:55] going up. We adjusted escros where

[25:58] appropriate, but again, that's not a

[25:59] fee. Those things are posted to

[26:01] reimburse the township for actual

[26:03] expenses. And what we don't get uh what

[26:06] we get reimbursed for is the actual cost

[26:09] to um for our consultants to provide

[26:11] that service.

[26:14] Uh we'll go now. No other changes until

[26:16] you get down to page seven.

[26:19] Zoning hearing board and other appeals.

[26:22] Um

[26:24] I don't know how much time the township

[26:27] previous managers township secretary

[26:29] spent uh looking at the zoning hearing

[26:31] board fees, the UCCC fees, uh board of

[26:34] appeal fees, conditional use fees. Um

[26:37] but that we can charge is set by state

[26:39] law in specific the municipalities

[26:41] planning code. If you open up that state

[26:43] law that says municipalities, you have

[26:45] the right, sole right to write the laws,

[26:49] but the cost if somebody wants to

[26:52] challenge the laws, ask for a variance,

[26:53] ask for a special exception to defend

[26:56] that solicitor bills and so forth,

[26:58] that's your burden, [clears throat]

[26:59] » Right? In exchange for giving you the

[27:01] right to write the rules, the cost to

[27:04] defend the rules is yours. Uh, and the

[27:07] board and the uh planning code is very

[27:09] specific. uh we can include in the cost

[27:12] that we charge to people that go to the

[27:13] zoning hearing board to go to the UCCC

[27:15] board of appeals to go to the board of

[27:17] supervisors when it's in a quasi

[27:19] judicial uh proceeding like a

[27:21] conditional use application one half of

[27:24] the court reporters appearance fee. we

[27:26] can uh require somebody to pay us the

[27:29] cost of the legal fee, the mailings that

[27:31] are sent to neighbors, the physical

[27:33] posting of the property, stipens that

[27:35] are paid to the zoning hearing board, if

[27:37] any, we do and certain administrative

[27:39] expenses. So, uh when you take a look at

[27:42] these uh filing fees, they're uh they're

[27:45] decreasing um for uh residential and for

[27:49] non-residential applications to the uh

[27:51] to the zoning hearing board. Um and we

[27:54] have added the fee to readvertise and

[27:58] rightsize those in case uh the zoning

[28:02] hearing board and board has to meet

[28:03] again at a future meeting with public

[28:06] notice required.

[28:08] So for example uh the township fee

[28:10] schedule if I'm recalling at $3,000 fee

[28:13] for nonresidential

[28:15] applications to the zoning hearing board

[28:17] that goes down uh to uh to $1,600.

[28:20] Actually, I understand correct the

[28:21] residential goes up a 100 uh from six

[28:24] from 1,500 to $1,600.

[28:28] And again, that is taking a look at our

[28:29] actual expenses permitted by law that

[28:32] can be given to uh to a person to pay.

[28:35] And those are uh those are good numbers.

[28:38] Um at the bottom of page seven, an

[28:40] application to amend the zoning

[28:42] ordinance or zoning map. We didn't have

[28:43] anything of the fee schedule last year,

[28:46] so we had to make sure that that was

[28:47] added. zoning officer determination

[28:50] letter. Uh that is likewise uh new for

[28:53] folks that want an official zoning

[28:55] determination. Uh if they uh if they

[28:58] request that the fee is $130. And then

[29:02] lastly on page eight

[29:05] um one new fee and one lower fee. Copy

[29:10] fees uh decreased. We had a fee in there

[29:13] for color copies which uh the law didn't

[29:15] permit. Uh and frankly was much greater

[29:18] than what we were charging. Uh so that

[29:20] is now black or white or copy is 25

[29:23] cents uh a copy. We pay about one and a

[29:27] half pennies for black and white and

[29:28] about 5 12 pennies for um per color. Um

[29:33] and then of course the the paper and the

[29:35] and and the toner and so forth. Um the

[29:38] finance department there is a uh new

[29:40] charge there uh an escrow release fee of

[29:43] 6750.

[29:45] Uh the parks department community garden

[29:48] this is one of those consolidations

[29:51] uh for township residents uh last year

[29:54] for the two plots 20x 10 and 20 by 20.

[29:57] Um, [clears throat] the township, if you

[29:59] include the $50 equipment fee that was

[30:02] part of the fee schedule, is going from

[30:04] $85 to $75 for a 20x10 plot and from $95

[30:10] to $85 for township residents for a 20x

[30:13] 20 plot. Uh, similar decrease for

[30:15] non-residents. Um, I'm sorry, it's an

[30:18] increase for non-residents. uh those uh

[30:21] those numbers are going from 105 to 115

[30:26] and uh 115 to 125. And just as a note,

[30:30] we did some numbers uh took into

[30:32] consideration our true cost to maintain

[30:35] that facility. Uh and it averages about

[30:38] $176

[30:39] a plot. So we we made that a little

[30:42] adjustment to the non-residents. Um, and

[30:44] we break that down residents and

[30:45] non-residents because the residents of

[30:47] our community are paying to us some

[30:49] additional tax dollars. There should be

[30:50] some consideration given to those folks

[30:52] by way of a lower fee.

[30:54] » You think the gardeners are going to get

[30:55] more service this year as well as you're

[30:58] changing?

[30:59] » Yeah. So, we

[31:00] » Which you think will help maintain the

[31:02] garden better.

[31:03] » Yeah. So, so, so public works department

[31:04] will be maintaining the entire garden.

[31:06] And when we met with the uh the group of

[31:08] folks who oversee the community garden a

[31:11] few weeks ago, they were they were

[31:12] thrilled. Now they can just focus on

[31:13] their plots.

[31:14] » I think the neighbors will be thrilled

[31:15] too.

[31:16] » Yep. Uh the police department uh fees

[31:19] that are on here haven't uh changed. The

[31:21] chief thinks that they are sufficient as

[31:24] adopted last year. Um page nine just

[31:27] includes some fee schedule notes. Uh

[31:29] some of which were on last year's uh fee

[31:31] schedule, others are fairly common. What

[31:34] we do is we ask the uh the permit uh

[31:36] director to take a look and try to um

[31:39] anticipate any questions that people may

[31:40] ask. better be a little proactive in

[31:43] giving people information instead of

[31:45] having done that and say well what

[31:46] happens when or if so those things are

[31:49] included here. So looking over

[31:51] everything uh there's just a handful

[31:54] that have increased and that number is

[31:55] modest. The majority of of fees that

[31:58] have changed uh have been lowered.

[32:00] » Well sorry to bug the meeting down first

[32:03] of all. [laughter] Second, uh,

[32:06] » Thank you for taking the time to have

[32:08] gone through all this before the meeting

[32:10] to change these prices. On balance, it

[32:12] looks like it'll be maybe not a tax

[32:15] decrease to us, but, uh, we can also say

[32:18] a revenue decrease to the township

[32:20] possibly. Um, my only other question is,

[32:23] uh, where do we go for definitions of

[32:25] these things? Like it just says

[32:27] driveway. If somebody was redoing their

[32:29] driveway or, you know, how do we know

[32:31] what special events are? If if we're

[32:34] having a wedding on our property and put

[32:35] up a tent,

[32:36] » Yeah,

[32:36] » How do we know what qualifies?

[32:38] » You call and ask. In fact, just today I

[32:40] received a question about what's needed

[32:42] if there is a wedding on my property.

[32:44] It's it's family. It's no different than

[32:46] a party and I noted. But if there is a

[32:48] tent, we do have a permit required for

[32:50] tent. So, if you need clarification, you

[32:52] just call us.

[32:53] » But but and that's fine. That's good.

[32:55] But but there's no place that we could

[32:57] look at right now. Like if we're

[32:58] thinking about redoing our driveway,

[33:01] yes, we can call you, but is there a

[33:02] place where things are defined on on on

[33:05] online? Okay.

[33:06] » Yeah.

[33:07] » Okay. I know what sometimes in the

[33:09] township newsletter it has it's done

[33:11] done that with driveways spec

[33:13] specifically, but

[33:14] » Okay.

[33:18] » I just wanted to ask one more question

[33:20] on that too.

[33:21] » Did the change in engineer make any

[33:23] difference in in the fee schedule?

[33:25] » Well, that was one of the factors. Um

[33:28] but um it's um it's not um

[33:34] it's not something that's worked into

[33:35] the building permits because the

[33:37] engineer sees two things generally the

[33:40] subdivision and land development side.

[33:42] So our our building inspector hasn't

[33:46] changed. It was error last year.

[33:47] » These were actual

[33:48] » Yeah. So, so, so these are these are

[33:50] costs associated with uh when you take a

[33:52] look at the building permits and zoning

[33:54] permits, primarily your building

[33:55] inspector and uh your uh your zoning

[33:59] officer, permit director.

[34:01] » Thank you.

[34:02] » Good evening. Um storage tanks, does it

[34:06] matter what's in them?

[34:08] » Uh anything but propane because that's

[34:09] covered under a separate state law. We

[34:11] don't touch that.

[34:12] » Okay. And uh water. people have water

[34:16] storage things for rain garden or

[34:19] something.

[34:19] » I'd have to look at it. I can't recall

[34:21] ever being asked about that. Like a

[34:22] sistern,

[34:23] » Something like that.

[34:24] » Consider that this.

[34:25] » Okay.

[34:26] » Yeah.

[34:26] » And I mean obviously petroleum you want

[34:28] to know, but

[34:29] » Yes.

[34:29] » So propane is not covered.

[34:31] » That's that's a separate uh part of

[34:33] state law. Somebody else not deals with

[34:35] propane.

[34:35] » Okay. Thank you.

[34:36] » Thank you. Any other questions on that?

[34:38] Please schedule.

[34:42] Just a quick question about the escrow

[34:45] release

[34:45] » I'm sorry could could you give us your

[34:46] » It's my name is Victoria Baker um the

[34:49] escro release fee just curious about why

[34:52] that's being added

[34:54] » Because the finance director spends

[34:56] approximately an hour reconciling each

[34:59] uh escrow account before it's released.

[35:01] » So it's a it's it's a new charge just

[35:03] brought about this year just because

[35:06] that came to

[35:07] » It's your attention. It's a cost that's

[35:09] attributable to a specific project and

[35:12] just like any other cost attributable to

[35:13] a project that's drawn from an ASP.

[35:15] » Okay. Thank you.

[35:16] » You anyone else?

[35:20] » Okay. Seeing none, I think we have a

[35:21] motion on the table. We have a second.

[35:26] » All in favor?

[35:27] » I.

[35:28] » Motion passes.

[35:32] » Okay. Can we have a motion to approve

[35:34] resolution 32026 to appoint Mali

[35:37] Accountants Advisors to prepare the

[35:40] township audit for fiscal year 2025 and

[35:43] to provide other related services as may

[35:45] be required?

[35:46] » So moved. Second.

[35:48] » All in favor?

[35:50] » I.

[35:53] A motion to approve resolution 42026 to

[35:56] renew the term of the township manager

[35:59] employment agreement and to revise

[36:00] certain terms of this agreement.

[36:03] » So move second.

[36:06] » All in favor?

[36:06] » I

[36:07] » I

[36:10] approved

[36:13] Pennsylvania Labor Relations Board

[36:15] petition. A motion to authorize Township

[36:17] Labor Council to file a petition to the

[36:20] Pennsylvania Labor Relations Board as to

[36:22] the position of director of codes

[36:24] permitting and zoning.

[36:26] » So moved. Second.

[36:29] » All in favor?

[36:30] » I I

[36:36] also Pennsylvania Labor Relations Board

[36:39] petition a motion to the township

[36:41] solicitor. Is that

[36:43] » The heading is not correct? No.

[36:44] [clears throat]

[36:45] Okay. What's it's regarding the township

[36:48] solicitor to post

[36:49] » Estimated

[36:50] » Correct? Mr. Heading is not right. Go

[36:51] ahead.

[36:52] » Reading the motion.

[36:53] » Yeah. Okay. Forget that.

[36:56] » A motion to authorize the township

[36:58] solicitor to post estimated just

[37:00] compensation for the acquisition of

[37:02] rightaway and a temporary construction

[37:05] easement for the Buttonwood Bridge

[37:07] replacement project.

[37:08] » So moved.

[37:09] » Definitely not the same thing. All in

[37:11] favor? I

[37:12] » I motion passes.

[37:18] » We're up to public comment. Does anyone

[37:20] have public comment?

[37:23] Come on.

[37:28] This is for non-aggenda items.

[37:31] » So, I have a question on right to knows.

[37:34] uh your right to know form that's on the

[37:36] website actually has a check box that

[37:37] says please send your uh the response

[37:39] via email and US mail. Um when the email

[37:44] box is checked, why are we not receiving

[37:46] it via email and we're only receiving it

[37:48] via via USPS?

[37:53] » I think that's for our right to know

[37:54] officer.

[37:55] » The form that's posted on our website is

[37:57] the form that's approved by the office

[37:59] of open records. when we receive any

[38:02] request, we follow the right to know law

[38:04] and the steps that the right to know law

[38:06] enumerates be taken.

[38:08] » So my question again is when you have

[38:10] that check box on there that the person

[38:13] that's filling it out says please send

[38:15] response via email US mail and you can

[38:19] check one. Why is it when email is

[38:21] checked, we're getting it response USPS?

[38:24] » Well, we send things by mail. Even if

[38:27] they say they want a response by email,

[38:29] you're going to go against what's on the

[38:30] form.

[38:30] » I do. Yes.

[38:32] » Okay.

[38:33] » There's no requirement under the right

[38:34] to no law to send things by email.

[38:36] » There is not unless they're requesting

[38:38] uh documents that are digitally but not

[38:41] responses.

[38:42] » Yeah. I'm just saying. Okay.

[38:46] » Does it make sense to take the check box

[38:48] off? Well, that's not public.

[38:49] » No, we use the state form.

[38:51] » Okay. That is the form. Okay. Thank you.

[38:55] You can shut this down because it was an

[38:57] agenda item, but I'm just I'm still

[38:59] confused about the definitions where

[39:00] somebody where it says driveway.

[39:03] I'm just thinking if there's somebody

[39:04] who wants to do something or electrical

[39:06] wants to do something minor,

[39:09] if they call in, they might feel like

[39:11] they're

[39:13] opening themselves up to getting a fee

[39:15] where if they had just gone ahead and

[39:16] done it, they wouldn't have they would

[39:19] try to get away with it. Can they and we

[39:22] all know that happens. Is there a place

[39:25] where we can come and see where the

[39:26] definitions of these things are without

[39:29] coming in and asking the question?

[39:31] » Well, I defer to the council solicitor

[39:33] on definitions of common words and

[39:35] usages. And

[39:36] » So talk just use electrical if somebody

[39:39] wants to rewire something in their

[39:42] house.

[39:42] » Well, I I can tell you with electrical

[39:44] um and that's governed by what the uh

[39:46] the building code would require be

[39:48] permitted. And if folks said, "Hey, I

[39:50] have a question regarding doing this."

[39:53] That would go to the building inspector

[39:54] and the building inspector would take a

[39:55] look at the building code and say,

[39:56] "Under the building code, if you want to

[39:58] make that sort of approvement."

[40:00] » Okay. And there would be a fee because

[40:02] they were called.

[40:03] » It would be no a question like that. No.

[40:05] » Okay.

[40:06] » No, the fee is paid when the application

[40:08] comes in.

[40:08] » Okay.

[40:09] » Okay. Driveway.

[40:11] » Well, driveway is a common term, so I'm

[40:14] not sure where the confusion would be.

[40:17] Well, there's a lot of ways to patch

[40:18] one's driveway as opposed to resealing

[40:21] it, as opposed to repaving it, as

[40:22] opposed to redirecting it. So, there's

[40:25] four different examples of driveway.

[40:27] » And I think the problem with that is

[40:28] that to have definitions now that are

[40:31] explain all of that gets to be

[40:34] overburdensome

[40:35] and overly complicated when a phone call

[40:39] can answer the question. So can't

[40:41] anticipate but you can't always

[40:42] anticipate all of the questions someone

[40:44] might have concerning all those kind of

[40:48] things right there there are common

[40:50] common terms then

[40:53] » If you're deal coding it it's not a

[40:54] problem if they're not changing

[40:56] something about

[40:56] » Well that's what I mean I don't not here

[40:58] to argue each individual thing I just

[41:00] I'm surprised to hear a lawyer say that

[41:02] I don't mean this in a negative way it's

[41:03] just like legal lawyers usually want

[41:05] everything spelled out very carefully

[41:06] and you're saying well we'll just sort

[41:08] of take it on there's

[41:09] » Practicality to

[41:11] There really is.

[41:13] » Okay.

[41:15] Okay. Just seem well seems like from one

[41:19] year to the next you could get a

[41:20] different response if you talk to

[41:22] especially a different township manager.

[41:23] It just seems like we ought to there

[41:25] ought to be a place where we can come

[41:26] and look something up to see what what

[41:28] what the definitions of these things

[41:30] are. But whatever just an observation

[41:32] » Could always call Jason and come sit

[41:34] down, talk with him about some questions

[41:35] because he's really very personable and

[41:37] » Okay

[41:38] » Knowledgeable.

[41:39] » All right. And he's also not going to

[41:41] write down Jamie might be doing this

[41:43] work.

[41:44] » Okay. [laughter]

[41:44] All right.

[41:45] » He's not like that. Thank you.

[41:48] » Um I also want to echo my concern about

[41:51] the right to know response form. Um just

[41:55] as a courtesy to the residents, you it's

[41:57] really minimal amount of extra work on

[42:00] the township. The mail here is very

[42:01] slow. It could take a week to get a post

[42:04] postal delivery.

[42:06] Um, I mean that's significant and it's

[42:09] acknowledged by everyone. Everyone knows

[42:10] that the mail is very slow lately. You

[42:13] have the form.

[42:16] » You could email it. You could email it

[42:17] and post it. You can't say that posting

[42:20] it gives you a confirmation that you did

[42:22] it because it's not sent with any kind

[42:23] of confirmation for delivery. So, the

[42:27] email is no worse

[42:29] than that. It seems like the only reason

[42:32] to not do that would be to slow the

[42:34] transfer of information, which I don't

[42:36] think we want to do.

[42:37] » To come pick it up.

[42:39] » Is that an option?

[42:40] » Sure.

[42:41] » Could you speak into the microphone? We

[42:43] can hardly hear you back here.

[42:44] » There is always the option to come pick

[42:46] it up if you're concerned about the

[42:48] speed of delivery of your postal

[42:50] service. But if you'd like to come pick

[42:52] it up, indicated you'll pick it up. So,

[42:55] » Can I ask you say I've never done a

[42:57] right to know, so I don't know what it's

[42:59] like. And we are not the board does not

[43:01] get involved and we don't

[43:02] » No, but the board sets policy.

[43:04] » Well, I'm no policy. That's a state.

[43:07] » Well, but as a courtesy, they could ask

[43:10] you to email potentially.

[43:12] » I just have a question.

[43:13] » The board is not going to be in a

[43:15] position to tell what the right the

[43:16] right to know officer how he should

[43:18] perform his duties.

[43:20] » Well, state law will do that. not the

[43:22] perview of work.

[43:23] » Well, my my question would be um

[43:27] when you when you do complete it, do you

[43:30] email a person that it's completed and

[43:32] something was sent?

[43:32] » No, they get a mail.

[43:33] » Okay. They just get it when they get it

[43:35] in the mail.

[43:36] » Okay. Is that something that could be

[43:37] considered that to email them that I

[43:40] have mailed it?

[43:41] » Continue to mail.

[43:44] » If you were to come and pick it up, how

[43:47] would we notify you of that?

[43:49] » I call you

[43:51] But how would you know we wanted that

[43:52] instead of it?

[43:54] » Let me know. Write it on the form.

[43:55] » On the form. Okay. So, but there's no

[43:58] checkbox. Just added in as a verbal.

[44:00] » Yeah, that's fine.

[44:02] » Okay. Thank you.

[44:06] » Do we have any other comments tonight?

[44:16] » My name is Brian Hankis. I'm from

[44:18] Remington Drive. Um my question is

[44:22] regarding escros.

[44:25] So you guys are taking escros for site

[44:28] development, home improvements, whatever

[44:30] it is. Who's managing and controlling

[44:33] and overseeing the return of the escros

[44:35] and the inspections that are required to

[44:37] get escros returned?

[44:41] » So for certain projects, not all, but

[44:43] for certain projects,

[44:45] » Let's say site development just

[44:46] » Say a subdivision plan. So the uh the

[44:50] property owner, the owner and equity

[44:52] developer will post an escrow with the

[44:54] township. Part of that agreement is uh

[44:56] posting a certain amount and agreeing to

[44:58] replenish the escrow when the balance

[45:00] falls to a certain amount uh usually uh

[45:03] 50%. Uh when the township receives uh an

[45:06] invoice for uh charges uh for a project,

[45:11] um those invoices are reviewed uh and

[45:14] approved for payment by me. The township

[45:16] pays the township's consultant. The

[45:19] finance director then makes the entry

[45:21] into the escrow account or the escrow uh

[45:25] party and sends to the escrow party uh a

[45:28] copy of the invoice for their review so

[45:30] they know what was deducted from their

[45:32] account. And if they have any questions,

[45:34] that's the opportunity to ask, well,

[45:35] what's this charge of that charge? Uh

[45:37] the township charges the actual fee that

[45:39] we pay. So we pay our consultants and we

[45:42] reimburse ourselves. We don't ask our

[45:43] consultants to go out and chase those

[45:45] dollars. That's the purpose.

[45:46] » Yeah, I actually understand all that,

[45:48] but who oversees the inspections that

[45:51] are done through the escrow. So,

[45:53] » It it depends. It's um it could be the

[45:55] township engineer. It could be the

[45:56] township traffic engineer. With some

[45:59] projects, there are there are documents

[46:00] and agreements that are required to be

[46:02] reviewed and that would fall to the

[46:04] township solicitor. Um so, it's it's

[46:06] going to be one of our consultants. Um

[46:09] my time is not drawn from the escrow. my

[46:12] time is built into the fee for whatever

[46:14] application is being made. Um but uh

[46:17] every everybody else is is the

[46:19] consultant.

[46:20] » Well, so we have a situation on our

[46:22] street where it was the development plan

[46:25] was by Tom Bentley.

[46:26] » Yeah.

[46:27] » Um everything in the agreement says it

[46:30] the township states specifications for

[46:35] uh the development plan, whether it be

[46:37] storm water. I'm more particularly

[46:40] um concerned about the street. So there

[46:42] are specifications on what your

[46:44] requirements are to meet for the

[46:46] construction of the street, the

[46:48] subgrade, the um material used, the

[46:52] binder coat, the wear course on the

[46:54] black top. Who inspects that before they

[46:57] give the escrow money back?

[46:58] » It' be generally the township engineer.

[47:00] » So if that wasn't done and the money was

[47:03] returned, whose responsibility does that

[47:05] fall under? who was the negligent party

[47:07] there that did not give the proper

[47:09] inspection.

[47:10] » So, I I I haven't spoken to you about

[47:12] this, but I believe you've been in

[47:13] contact with with Jason in our office.

[47:15] » We have.

[47:15] » Okay. So, this is this a private road?

[47:18] » Uh it's a private road, but under the

[47:20] agreement, uh the development agreement,

[47:23] the the requirements for the township

[47:26] requirements for the driveways and roads

[47:30] are still supposed to be met. And

[47:33] there's actually uh line items on the

[47:35] escros for a wear course, a binder

[47:40] course, a subgrade. So those things

[47:43] should have all been inspected before

[47:45] the money was returned.

[47:46] » And again, refresh my memory. This this

[47:48] goes back how many years? It's not it's

[47:51] not a recent

[47:52] » More than 10 years. Okay.

[47:53] » But the development

[47:54] » Well, development hasn't been done yet.

[47:56] Yeah. The development's only been done

[47:57] in the last two years.

[47:59] » Okay. So the escrow would have been

[48:00] posted. a certain type of escrow would

[48:03] have been posted when the subdivision

[48:04] was proposed. A different type of

[48:06] security and improvement security would

[48:08] have been posted in advance of uh the uh

[48:11] the work on the road. Um Jason's

[48:14] reviewed this and he spoke to me about

[48:16] it briefly and all of those escrow

[48:18] dollars have been released. I think he

[48:20] told you there's there's nothing that we

[48:22] have.

[48:22] » The problem is is the require the

[48:24] township requirements were never met.

[48:26] So, who inspected that and signed off on

[48:29] releasing the funds when it hasn't been

[48:32] » Met? I understand the question.

[48:33] » Now, to fix the street, it's going to be

[48:35] over $200,000 and there's five houses on

[48:38] the street.

[48:39] » So, I mean, who pays for that? Like,

[48:44] shouldn't the builder have paid it? He

[48:45] was obligated to fulfill that uh

[48:48] standard set forth by the township and

[48:51] agreed upon.

[48:54] Yeah, I understand the question.

[48:57] » Okay.

[48:58] » So, who's responsible for that? It's

[49:00] » A hard hard question to answer without

[49:02] all the facts in front of us.

[49:04] » So, how long ago was it done?

[49:07] » The last house was built two years ago.

[49:09] » When was the work when was the work

[49:11] done?

[49:12] » The last house the work was completed

[49:13] two years ago.

[49:14] » When was the street paved? When it was

[49:16] where

[49:17] » It's never been top coated.

[49:20] » It's falling apart. So, it had a wear it

[49:23] had it didn't have a wear code. It had a

[49:25] binder code put down.

[49:26] » When did they get the rest code?

[49:29] » Good question. It's not disclosed in the

[49:31] information that we were given.

[49:35] » We did file for our information, paid

[49:37] the fees and did come and pick them up.

[49:39] We did not wait to have them mailed to

[49:42] us

[49:44] or emailed which wouldn't have happened.

[49:46] » Well, we'll have to get back to you.

[49:48] That's the first I'm hearing about. I'll

[49:49] have to talk to Tommy about it. Yeah, I

[49:51] appreciate that.

[49:52] » Right.

[49:52] » Thank you.

[49:53] » Thanks.

[49:57] » Anyone else?

[50:00] » Okay, our next meeting is going to be

[50:03] Monday, January 19th at 6 PM at the

[50:06] township building and it will start as a

[50:08] work session at 6. Um, I believe we are

[50:12] doing that, right? It says needed, but I

[50:14] believe we are doing that. And then, uh,

[50:17] at 7 o'clock will be the official

[50:19] meeting. So hope to see you all there.

[50:21] Thank you very much.

[50:22] » To adjourn.

[50:23] » You're adjourned.

1/5/26 Board of Supervisors Meeting

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